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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] commented on Mashable: "Steve Jobs Eulogy by “Last True Hacker” Goes Too Far" http://ur1.ca/5cji4 #freesoftware | Oct 10 00:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #quotes - Any law repugnant to the Constitution is void on its face. – Supreme Court | Oct 10 00:13 | |
| schestowitz | [20:33] <leo_rockway> but, to be honest, that thing about the virgin of emacs was mostly lefty trying to make Gnome fork away from the GNU project and include more mono, IMO. | Oct 10 00:15 |
| schestowitz | [20:33] <leo_rockway> ddv: I think so too. | Oct 10 00:15 |
| schestowitz | [20:33] <leo_rockway> but since we're in #fsf we'll just get called fanbois. | Oct 10 00:15 |
| schestowitz | [20:34] <rm> <leo_rockway> and he says that the virgin of emacs is any woman that has never used emacs before and that she should be made to use emacs to lose her emacs virginity | Oct 10 00:15 |
| schestowitz | [20:34] <rm> I heard that in one or two speeches | Oct 10 00:16 |
| schestowitz | [20:34] <rm> I don't remember him specifically refer to women | Oct 10 00:16 |
| schestowitz | [20:34] <rm> but whatever. | Oct 10 00:16 |
| schestowitz | [20:34] <leo_rockway> I don't remember it either | Oct 10 00:16 |
| schestowitz | [20:35] <leo_rockway> maybe he never said "woman" but in my head it was always a woman because of the virgin mary. | Oct 10 00:16 |
| schestowitz | [20:36] <Fredxz> I think we can all agree that it is time for Richard M. Stallman to pull off a Steve Jobs. | Oct 10 00:16 |
| schestowitz | [20:37] <leo_rockway> he also says that there's no OS but GNU and Linux is one of its kernels, just like the muslims say that about Allah and Mohamed. | Oct 10 00:16 |
| schestowitz | [20:37] <leo_rockway> he's obviously using real religions to feed the church of emacs... | Oct 10 00:16 |
| schestowitz | [20:37] <leo_rockway> if anything, I'd understand people complaining about that, but not about sexism. | Oct 10 00:16 |
| schestowitz | [20:43] <sweetandy> I'm pretty sure the "no OS but GNU" is a joke, a parody if you will | Oct 10 00:16 |
| azalyn | is the sexism discussion still going on...? | Oct 10 00:20 |
| schestowitz | I gyess | Oct 10 00:23 |
| schestowitz | it's from an FSF channel | Oct 10 00:23 |
| schestowitz | There's more of that | Oct 10 00:23 |
| schestowitz | [20:30] <leo_rockway> DuClare: about the emacs virgin? | Oct 10 00:24 |
| schestowitz | [20:30] <DuClare> That | Oct 10 00:24 |
| schestowitz | [20:30] <leo_rockway> Fredxz: \ø | Oct 10 00:24 |
| schestowitz | [20:30] <leo_rockway> DuClare: rms does a personification of Saint IGNUcious... | Oct 10 00:24 |
| schestowitz | [20:30] <Fredxz> :3 | Oct 10 00:24 |
| schestowitz | [20:30] <leo_rockway> he wears a tunic and an old disk as a halo | Oct 10 00:24 |
| schestowitz | [20:30] <DuClare> Oh, that | Oct 10 00:24 |
| schestowitz | [20:30] <leo_rockway> he talks about the church of emacs | Oct 10 00:24 |
| schestowitz | [20:30] <DuClare> Yes | Oct 10 00:24 |
| schestowitz | [20:30] <leo_rockway> the cult of vi, etc | Oct 10 00:24 |
| schestowitz | [20:31] <leo_rockway> he mentions that the church of emacs has the virgin of emacs | Oct 10 00:24 |
| schestowitz | [20:31] <leo_rockway> and he says that the virgin of emacs is any woman that has never used emacs before and that she should be made to use emacs to lose her emacs virginity | Oct 10 00:24 |
| schestowitz | [20:31] <leo_rockway> they said that was sexist | Oct 10 00:24 |
| schestowitz | [20:31] <leo_rockway> when he's only capitalizing on the Virgin Mary who, surprise surprise, happened to be a woman | Oct 10 00:24 |
| schestowitz | [20:31] <DuClare> .. | Oct 10 00:24 |
| schestowitz | [20:32] <leo_rockway> women felt that nerds were going to be raping at free software conventions | Oct 10 00:24 |
| schestowitz | [20:32] <ddv> RMS was spot on regarding Steve Jobs. | Oct 10 00:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Alabama Law Makes It A Felony For Undocumented Immigrants To Have Water At Their Homes | ThinkProg ress #usa http://goo.gl/Ue2cc | Oct 10 00:25 | |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Oct 10 00:44 |
| schestowitz | http://imgur.com/1A6Ix | Oct 10 00:57 |
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| schestowitz | sebsebseb: hello, how are you? | Oct 10 00:57 |
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| schestowitz | http://imgur.com/h3Aaw | Oct 10 00:58 |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: cold, you? | Oct 10 01:00 |
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| schestowitz | sebsebseb: warm here | Oct 10 01:00 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Oct 10 01:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Tablet vendors scurry to undercut $500 iPad | Nanotech - The Circuits Blog - CNET News #tablets http://goo.gl/6Se3H | Oct 10 01:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] fogproject.org - Linux-based, free and open source computer imaging solution for ms- XP, Vista and 7 #flosstools http://ur1.ca/5cjzf | Oct 10 01:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] DRBL - is a free software, open source solution to managing the deployment of the GNU/Linux #flosstools http://ur1.ca/5ck0b | Oct 10 01:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] FSArchiver - is a system tool that allows you to save the contents of a file-system to a compressed archive file #floss http://goo.gl/2WnBv | Oct 10 01:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Ultimate Boot CD #flosstools | Oct 10 01:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] SystemRescueCd - is a Linux system rescue disk available as a bootable CD-ROM or USB stick #flosstools http://ur1.ca/zhei | Oct 10 01:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Clonezilla - A free software disaster recovery, disk cloning and deployment solution. #flosstools http://clonezilla.org/ | Oct 10 01:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] g4u - Harddisk Image Cloning for PCs #flosstools http://ur1.ca/5ck1o | Oct 10 01:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Mondo Rescue - GPL disaster recovery solution #flosstools http://ur1.ca/5ck1s | Oct 10 01:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] wait what......osi = practical, fsf = ethical. copyleft is a side issue. | Oct 10 01:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wayneborean Psst ... re Friday's !InconstantMoon image, I'm curious if you recognized the library whose name I digitally altered :) | Oct 10 01:33 | |
| schestowitz | jono would love this http://i.imgur.com/oQWrk.jpg | Oct 10 01:43 |
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| schestowitz | hi, Ziomatrix | Oct 10 01:48 |
| schestowitz | ____/ Dave U. Random on Sunday 09 Oct 2011 21:47 : \____ | Oct 10 01:52 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.infoworld.com/t/technology-business/ignore-the-doomsayers- | Oct 10 01:52 |
| schestowitz | > apple-will-be-just-fine-after-jobs-170788 | Oct 10 01:52 |
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| schestowitz | > | Oct 10 01:52 |
| schestowitz | > Yeah, just like they were before he returned. The guy was almost a | Oct 10 01:52 |
| schestowitz | > fucking saint to the Apple fanbois. He could do no wrong it seems. Now | Oct 10 01:52 |
| schestowitz | > that he's gone we'll see how long their luck lasts. My guess is not | Oct 10 01:52 |
| schestowitz | > very long. | Oct 10 01:52 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: they got a roadmap and "loyal customers" locked in with a Mac and/or iTunes. | Oct 10 01:53 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: trust me, Steve Jobs has probably planned the concept of their lineup for about a decade. | Oct 10 01:54 |
| Ziomatrix | or laid a roadmap for it I mean | Oct 10 01:54 |
| schestowitz | I don;'t think the fans repect Cook all that much | Oct 10 01:55 |
| schestowitz | and Apple has generally been viewed as an aggressor recently | Oct 10 01:55 |
| schestowitz | But they use Jobs like MSFT used Gates when he 'retired' | Oct 10 01:55 |
| schestowitz | that' a shirt -termer | Oct 10 01:55 |
| schestowitz | *short | Oct 10 01:55 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: whats wrong with coming from HP? So did the both co-founding Steves of Apple afterall. ;-) | Oct 10 01:55 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: they still have Johnny Ive and the rest of the crew that was responsible for designing everything from the iMac, Titanium look for their notebooks and the iPod along with iPhone. | Oct 10 01:57 |
| schestowitz | hp? | Oct 10 01:57 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: yes Steve Jobs was hired by HP after contacting the president at the time for parts to use towards a final project in highschool, its where he met Steve Wozniak | Oct 10 01:57 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: to much his credit or chagrin of others he always had a knack or charisma to work his way around a workplace. | Oct 10 01:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] China’s Fall, Not Rise, Is the Real Global Threat | COLLAPSENET #collapse http://goo.gl/tC8Mx | Oct 10 01:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 10 01:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk @psquid what is OSI? | Oct 10 02:00 | |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: even though I guess his ego got the best of him and its how he got kicked out by the Board of Directors and CEO he appointed to the company he co-founded. Key word co-founded as Apple was established by three people originally. | Oct 10 02:00 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: anyway I'm more nervous about ACTA atm | Oct 10 02:01 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: I wonder how they're going to get ISPs to police all their users effectively, probably by employing software, techniques and hardware similar to what the NSA installed at AT&T to packet sniff. | Oct 10 02:02 |
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| schestowitz | hey, Ziomatrix, I'm back | Oct 10 02:13 |
| schestowitz | just read http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2011/10/michael-lewis-the-united-states-is-now-a-third-world-nation/? | Oct 10 02:14 |
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| schestowitz | Ziomatrix: 3 people? I thought 2 | Oct 10 02:14 |
| schestowitz | Michael Hudson on #OccupyWallStreet and the Need to Treat Banks as Utilities | Oct 10 02:15 |
| schestowitz | O | Oct 10 02:15 |
| schestowitz | http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/10/michael-hudson-on-occupywallstreet-and-the-need-to-treat-banks-as-utilities.html | Oct 10 02:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Michael Hudson on #OccupyWallStreet and the Need to Treat Banks as Utilities « naked capitalism .::. Size~: 180.79 KB | Oct 10 02:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What They've Come to Find at Occupy Wall Street Is America http://is.gd/oyzC5D #us #protest | Oct 10 02:18 | |
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| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: look up Ron Wayne | Oct 10 02:19 |
| schestowitz | why? | Oct 10 02:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Michael Hudson on #OccupyWallStreet and the Need to Treat Banks as Utilities http://is.gd/LSnGRY | Oct 10 02:20 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Michael Hudson on #OccupyWallStreet and the Need to Treat Banks as Utilities « naked capitalism .::. Size~: 180.79 KB | Oct 10 02:20 |
| schestowitz | http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/10/michael-hudson-on-occupywallstreet-and-the-need-to-treat-banks-as-utilities.html | Oct 10 02:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Michael Hudson on #OccupyWallStreet and the Need to Treat Banks as Utilities « naked capitalism .::. Size~: 180.79 KB | Oct 10 02:20 |
| schestowitz | Columns 10 through 12 | Oct 10 02:20 |
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| schestowitz | Columns 10 through 12 | Oct 10 02:20 |
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| schestowitz | oops | Oct 10 02:20 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/84496341 | Oct 10 02:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @jargon (jargon)'s status on Sunday, 09-Oct-11 10:38:41 UTC - Identi.ca: ♻ @schestowitz: For many people who stand up for truth and not misdirection supported by corporate press, the gloves come off now. <-- yep! | Oct 10 02:20 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/84496244 | Oct 10 02:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Kipngetich Ibrahim Ngeno (eebrah)'s status on Sunday, 09-Oct-11 10:33:36 UTC - Identi.ca: RD: @jargon: @schestowitz sadly,the truth is irrelevant. people believe what they want to believe. | Oct 10 02:20 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/84495971 | Oct 10 02:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Kipngetich Ibrahim Ngeno (eebrah)'s status on Sunday, 09-Oct-11 10:05:51 UTC - Identi.ca: RD: @schestowitz: Reading dishonets headlines, one gets the false impression @rms was happy about a death. He said the very opposite. Twice. | Oct 10 02:21 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/wood5y/status/122955496318701568 | Oct 10 02:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @wood5y: got an old PIII? This distro is very lightweight ♻ @schestowitz: Latest #BodhiLinux Assessed http://t.co/rKKOOdhD | Oct 10 02:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 10 02:22 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: the other barely mentioned Apple co-founder: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Wayne Apparently his position, knowledge and assets posed an intellectual risk to the 2 week old company so he ended up leaving and selling all his shares. | Oct 10 02:27 |
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| schestowitz | interesting | Oct 10 02:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Today's !InconstantMoon serialization is online: http://ur1.ca/5ck9u !selfPub | Oct 10 02:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] Now, now. Just because you don't enjoy unjustified ad hominem attacks doesn't mean you can spoil other people's fun. | Oct 10 02:32 | |
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| schestowitz | N ender tries to take a site that dismentles PR | Oct 10 02:34 |
| schestowitz | and blame that site or PR | Oct 10 02:34 |
| schestowitz | WHat a reveral | Oct 10 02:34 |
| schestowitz | Re: Techrights is Oceana | Oct 10 02:34 |
| schestowitz | ____/ Ender2070 on Monday 10 Oct 2011 02:15 : \____ | Oct 10 02:34 |
| schestowitz | > I just finished listening to 1984, the audiobook. I have some | Oct 10 02:34 |
| schestowitz | > comparisons to Techrights and Oceana. | Oct 10 02:34 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 10 02:34 |
| schestowitz | > Oceana was its own world inside a world. In Oceana you had the people | Oct 10 02:34 |
| schestowitz | > who had been indoctriniated into a controlled world view. There was the | Oct 10 02:34 |
| schestowitz | > inner party, the outer party and the proles. | Oct 10 02:34 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 10 02:34 |
| schestowitz | > What goes on in our Oceana can be seen in the book. News is altered to | Oct 10 02:34 |
| schestowitz | > fit the world view presented by big brother (The Techrights website is | Oct 10 02:34 |
| schestowitz | > great for this). | Oct 10 02:34 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 10 02:34 |
| schestowitz | > Anything that doesn't fit goes down the memory hole. This can be seen by | Oct 10 02:34 |
| schestowitz | > the concept presented by many COLA regulars and Techrights regulars. The | Oct 10 02:34 |
| schestowitz | > idea that we have not presented evidence. Au contraire! In the part of | Oct 10 02:34 |
| schestowitz | > the book where O'Brian is torturing Winston, he presents Winston with | Oct 10 02:34 |
| schestowitz | > proof of an alteration. He destroys it and Winston denies that the proof | Oct 10 02:34 |
| schestowitz | > no longer existed. Winston claimed it existed in his mind and O'Brian's | Oct 10 02:34 |
| schestowitz | > mind. Well Techrights follows the Big Brother system in this. You didn't | Oct 10 02:34 |
| schestowitz | > provide evidence, that's impossible. No evidence exists because Roy is | Oct 10 02:34 |
| schestowitz | > right. Microsoft has always been at war with Eurasia (I mean Linux). | Oct 10 02:34 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 10 02:34 |
| schestowitz | > PS: In the book: Insoc was new speak for "International Socialism". | Oct 10 02:35 |
| schestowitz | > Eurasia used the Bolshevik system and East Asia had used an | Oct 10 02:35 |
| schestowitz | > unpronouncable one. Interesting that this is a book that warns against | Oct 10 02:35 |
| schestowitz | > socialism and socialists use it as a tool to fight fascism. | Oct 10 02:35 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Oct 10 02:35 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/84506299 | Oct 10 02:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 10-Oct-11 01:19:57 UTC - Identi.ca: ♻ @wikileaks: Video of journalists & politicians calling for the assassination of Julian Assange http://t.co/zi3UnxAV | Oct 10 02:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 10 02:40 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/84506305 | Oct 10 02:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 10-Oct-11 01:20:21 UTC - Identi.ca: ♻ @wikileaks Wars are products of lies; but if lies can create wars, truth can create peace.\ | Oct 10 02:40 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/boycottnovell/status/123206775657873408 | Oct 10 02:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @boycottnovell: Julian Assange - OCT8 Antiwar Mass Assembly http://t.co/HNRKW31E !wikileaks | Oct 10 02:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 10 02:41 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Version 1.1.12 The Luggage now out #coolsoftware #gnu | Oct 10 04:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] the latter doesn't have hidden reggae lyrics? | Oct 10 04:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] RT @x11r5 Oops, tom renny heh | Oct 10 04:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Two years ago today was a !Kenyan public holiday | Oct 10 04:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Someone going by the name Moreno [http://ur1.ca/5clh3] left a comment on my blog "Shit blogspot" Had to approve that one. | Oct 10 04:59 | |
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| Peter___ | Someone can tell me in one line what is Plasma Active OS? | Oct 10 05:29 |
| Peter___ | hello? | Oct 10 05:33 |
| Peter___ | ok: Plasma Active aims at creating a cross-device user experience for emerging devices such as tablet computers, media centers, smartphones, and more. Plasma Active's mission statement is Create a desirable user experience encompassing a spectrum of devices | Oct 10 05:34 |
| Peter___ | found here: | Oct 10 05:34 |
| Peter___ | http://community.kde.org/Plasma/Active | Oct 10 05:34 |
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| Peter___ | thanks!!! | Oct 10 05:34 |
| Peter___ | bye! | Oct 10 05:34 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Thanks. | Oct 10 07:25 | |
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| DaemonFC | not the first time it has happened | Oct 10 08:14 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yHJOz_y9rZE#! | Oct 10 08:40 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Oct 10 09:12 |
| schestowitz | 0/ | Oct 10 09:28 |
| DaemonFC | I'm wondering if that scene in Breaking Bad last night was even possible | Oct 10 09:30 |
| DaemonFC | the guy gets half his face blown off and stands up, walks out of the room, adjusts his tie, and falls over dead | Oct 10 09:30 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Your thoughts | Oct 10 09:31 |
| MinceR | surge of adrenaline? | Oct 10 09:31 |
| DaemonFC | well, it blow off half his jaw, the entire right cheek, and his right eye was gone | Oct 10 09:32 |
| DaemonFC | *blew | Oct 10 09:32 |
| DaemonFC | it should be interesting who the next villain is | Oct 10 09:32 |
| DaemonFC | so far they've killed every one of them and a bigger one takes that one's place | Oct 10 09:33 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O47UY80VKfo | Oct 10 09:35 |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMEq1mGpP5A&feature=related | Oct 10 09:36 |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM7CE5mTz9I&feature=related | Oct 10 09:39 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 2012 Olympic music project recruits prisoners and bell-ringers - http://bit.ly/q8jHbU great to see Howard Skempton there | Oct 10 09:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] RT @bigbrovar !KDE takes on Android, Apple's iOS on smartphones and tablets | ZDNet - http://b1t.it/GRF | Oct 10 09:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] compiling #0AD on debian is turning out to be quite the task ... maybe I need to sleep on this | Oct 10 09:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] RT @notmart Ladies and Gentlemen, !Plasma !active One is released: http://ur1.ca/5cgh1 !kde !91011 | Oct 10 09:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Just compiled my first !openGL anything on linux, 3D graphics programming is about to be my b*tch! thank you #Wikibooks | Oct 10 09:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Just in case I had ever forgotten to mention this. I like #mozilla #firefox app tabs | Oct 10 09:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Shopping centre guard calls police over father taking 'illegal' photographs of his daughter - http://bit.ly/ocfPv5 still? (v @Glinner) | Oct 10 10:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] the !fellowship #grant http://ur1.ca/5crwg for September goes to Matthias | Oct 10 10:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] because the "/media/partition_label" directory already exists ? | Oct 10 10:12 | |
| iophk | "his underlying point about the digital world deserves to be heeded." | Oct 10 10:18 |
| iophk | http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2011/10/steve-jobs-stallman-dissenting-view.html | Oct 10 10:18 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Representing #Firefox and #Mozilla during the community day of OSW, 15 Oct, Beihang Uni http://t.cn/apj8gR goodies and gifts are available! | Oct 10 10:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] My Droid's GPS has decided that I am in New Delhi... | Oct 10 10:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Big Android BBQ 2011 - CyanogenMod Sessionyoutube DOT com/watch?v=2yUrlhoFUVw | Oct 10 10:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah Nice. | Oct 10 10:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] outrage. rt @comzeradd Music Royalty Collectors demanded money for Creative Commons tracks http://ur1.ca/5cr5s #cc | Oct 10 10:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Music royalty collection agency tried to collect on Creative Commons music http://identi.ca/url/54049936 | Oct 10 10:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #HuffPo Partners With Le Monde, LNEI On French Edition - http://bit.ly/p6emUS Le Huffpo, Die Huffpo, El Huffpo, Il Huffpo... #newspapers | Oct 10 10:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] ... Is he an ass? quite possibly but forking the !FSF because you don't like what @RMS said? ... Throwing out the baby with the bath water | Oct 10 10:41 | |
| DaemonFC | Another question for the ages | Oct 10 10:41 |
| DaemonFC | Why doesn't any non-Mozilla mail program handle IMAP accounts properly? | Oct 10 10:41 |
| MinceR | do they? | Oct 10 10:42 |
| DaemonFC | they seem to | Oct 10 10:42 |
| MinceR | are you having issues with Claws Mail? | Oct 10 10:42 |
| schestowitz | I gues that in DaemonFC's world the only applications that exist are ones he tried | Oct 10 10:42 |
| DaemonFC | when I want to use IMAP, I want it to use SERVER folders, not LOCAL folders | Oct 10 10:42 |
| MinceR | not sure what that means | Oct 10 10:43 |
| DaemonFC | the entire point of IMAP is to maintain client and server synchronization | Oct 10 10:43 |
| MinceR | my IMAP clients tend to maintain a mirror of the folders on the server | Oct 10 10:43 |
| DaemonFC | if I wanted to spew mail all over local folders, I would use POP | Oct 10 10:43 |
| DaemonFC | because POP is supposed to do that | Oct 10 10:43 |
| MinceR | usually you get to choose whether to keep a local copy of mail | Oct 10 10:44 |
| DaemonFC | I screwed around with KMail2 for probably 20 minutes to get it to use SSL, which it doesn't by default for some reason | Oct 10 10:44 |
| DaemonFC | and also to get it to send email using my SMTP account, not my local host | Oct 10 10:44 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 10:44 |
| DaemonFC | and after that it decides the right place to store sent mail on an IMAP account is the local Sent folder, without notifying the server | Oct 10 10:45 |
| DaemonFC | in IMAP, you use plain old SMTP to send mail, so there's two operations that need done | Oct 10 10:45 |
| DaemonFC | 1. Tell the server to send the message. | Oct 10 10:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Google's Dart: a language for structured web programming - http://bit.ly/pKAyCg released under #BSD licence #devs | Oct 10 10:46 | |
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| DaemonFC | 2. Tell the server to put a copy in the Sent folder on the server | Oct 10 10:46 |
| DaemonFC | KMail only does 1 | Oct 10 10:46 |
| DaemonFC | why is this important? same reason I use IMAP, so it doesn't matter if I use more than one mail client on more than one device, or if something screws up and deletes my local copies | Oct 10 10:47 |
| MinceR | it depends on where you tell KMail to put sent mail | Oct 10 10:47 |
| DaemonFC | if I wanted one local copy on one mail client on one device, waiting for something to corrupt it, I would use POP3 | Oct 10 10:47 |
| MinceR | just like with most email clients | Oct 10 10:48 |
| DaemonFC | POP3 is so 90s | Oct 10 10:48 |
| DaemonFC | if I had to go back to that, I'd use webmail | Oct 10 10:48 |
| schestowitz | email is so 80s | Oct 10 10:48 |
| schestowitz | eeww.. webmail | Oct 10 10:48 |
| schestowitz | maybe if you travel a lot between terminals, without wi-fi | Oct 10 10:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] And now we finally find out how Brent feels about the passing of Steve Jobs http://identi.ca/url/54050013 | Oct 10 10:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google Releases Chrome Desktop-Sharing Feature http://is.gd/G0T4Ct seems to be proprietary. Can it be trusted? | Oct 10 10:49 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I prefer having a copy locally but a backup on the server that mirrors whatever I do with the local copy | Oct 10 10:50 |
| DaemonFC | because I don't like using the webmail interface | Oct 10 10:50 |
| DaemonFC | a local client makes mail management more efficient | Oct 10 10:50 |
| schestowitz | http://www.spamfighter.com/News-16870-Linux-Developers-Urged-to-Examine-their-Systems-for-Possible-Hijack.htm | Oct 10 10:50 |
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| schestowitz | standard procedure to be on the safe side | Oct 10 10:50 |
| schestowitz | could be weak password issue | Oct 10 10:51 |
| DaemonFC | well, IMAP seems safer than POP3 to me | Oct 10 10:51 |
| DaemonFC | with POP3, you lose the copy you downloaded and you're finished | Oct 10 10:51 |
| schestowitz | how so? | Oct 10 10:51 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I used POP3 with GMAIL for a while when I used that after leaving Hotmail, it was due to not knowing any better | Oct 10 10:52 |
| DaemonFC | Hotmail only supports POP3 (on nonstandard ports at that) | Oct 10 10:52 |
| DaemonFC | and I just didn't realize how much I hated POP3 until I started using IMAP | Oct 10 10:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] This #git archive[?] is enormous! won't even have space to compile the package :( | Oct 10 10:52 | |
| DaemonFC | my favorite mail client is still Seamonkey's | Oct 10 10:53 |
| DaemonFC | but I end up using Thunderbird a lot | Oct 10 10:53 |
| DaemonFC | I noticed that Seamonkey is starting to not work with some Firefox add-ons | Oct 10 10:54 |
| DaemonFC | usually it's just because they didn't include a file stating it is compatible with Seamonkey | Oct 10 10:54 |
| iophk | DaemonFC: alpine appears to handle IMAP well | Oct 10 10:54 |
| DaemonFC | so what I ended up doing is unpacking the XPIs, adding that file myself, and opening the XPI with Seamonkey | Oct 10 10:55 |
| DaemonFC | most of them work like that, but damn | Oct 10 10:55 |
| DaemonFC | you know? :) | Oct 10 10:55 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html | Oct 10 10:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden | Oct 10 10:55 |
| DaemonFC | makes me think of this | Oct 10 10:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | alpine what? | Oct 10 10:57 |
| DaemonFC | Seamonkey and Firefox have a good (99% ish) level of add-on compatibility | Oct 10 10:57 |
| iophk | Alpine mail client. | Oct 10 10:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | never heard of it | Oct 10 10:57 |
| DaemonFC | but lots of them jsut don't work because nobody bothers including 3 lines to say it works in Seamonkey | Oct 10 10:57 |
| iophk | http://www.washington.edu/alpine/ | Oct 10 10:58 |
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| DaemonFC | Alpine is like woah | Oct 10 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | lots of settings | Oct 10 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | not very well documented | Oct 10 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | the kind of things uber geeks use (or claim to) so they can insult people who don't want to bother | Oct 10 10:59 |
| DaemonFC | sure you don't need a GUI for email | Oct 10 10:59 |
| DaemonFC | you don't NEED one for web browsing, playing music, writing text documents, or a lot of other things | Oct 10 11:00 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/janstedehouder/status/123334631918534656?iid=am-193306946213182402424794160&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208 | Oct 10 11:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @janstedehouder: @schestowitz libjingle is mentioned as open source, with a liberal license http://t.co/NWGcDgNM | Oct 10 11:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 10 11:00 |
| DaemonFC | you don't need one for IRC, but irssi and the others are comically bad by comparison | Oct 10 11:00 |
| DaemonFC | hmmmm, downstairs woman is taking her trash out | Oct 10 11:01 |
| DaemonFC | the smell of cigarettes drifting through my window gave her away | Oct 10 11:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] According to @janstedehouder Google's desktop-sharing feature is not proprietary. Might be a handy tool in general, Linux supported. | Oct 10 11:04 | |
| schestowitz | "Good question " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/593378 | Oct 10 11:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 10 11:05 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: is it safe to use all those remote desktop things? Haven't used them in ages | Oct 10 11:05 |
| schestowitz | Since the 90s | Oct 10 11:05 |
| schestowitz | passowrd to intrude | Oct 10 11:05 |
| schestowitz | with linux we can just ssh -X | Oct 10 11:05 |
| schestowitz | but cross-platform is the tricky part, rdp works sometimes if made available, seems like a honeypoy mistakesfesr | Oct 10 11:06 |
| schestowitz | *honeypot | Oct 10 11:06 |
| iophk | Tunnel VNC over SSH | Oct 10 11:06 |
| iophk | works cross platform | Oct 10 11:06 |
| DaemonFC | I've used Vinagre once or twice | Oct 10 11:07 |
| DaemonFC | but not in several years | Oct 10 11:07 |
| DaemonFC | iophk: RDP is the protocol Windows uses natively, there's some open source implementations of that | Oct 10 11:09 |
| DaemonFC | they reinvent things to avoid using standards all the time | Oct 10 11:10 |
| DaemonFC | you can use RFB (the VNC protocol) on Windows, but it doesn't work as well | Oct 10 11:11 |
| DaemonFC | and you need third party software | Oct 10 11:11 |
| oiaohm | http://www.xrdp.org/ This comes to mind DaemonFC | Oct 10 11:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 10 11:11 |
| DaemonFC | they hooked theirs into the Windows kernel and directly into GDI+ (and recently, DirectX) | Oct 10 11:11 |
| iophk | krdc and krfb use rdp | Oct 10 11:12 |
| oiaohm | iophk: as clients from memory. | Oct 10 11:12 |
| schestowitz | yes, I tried those | Oct 10 11:12 |
| schestowitz | couldn't get them to work right | Oct 10 11:12 |
| iophk | ok | Oct 10 11:13 |
| schestowitz | rdp can also be used to access KVM VMs | Oct 10 11:13 |
| schestowitz | with particular tools | Oct 10 11:13 |
| schestowitz | e.g. if they lose their IP address/connection | Oct 10 11:13 |
| schestowitz | the physical host can then create an RDP pipe into them | Oct 10 11:13 |
| schestowitz | Which is quire handy, I found.. | Oct 10 11:13 |
| schestowitz | Patent Evil http://www.i-programmer.info/news/99-professional/3167-patent-evil.html | Oct 10 11:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 10 11:16 |
| schestowitz | the FSF channel got trolled | Oct 10 11:17 |
| schestowitz | [11:40] --> SteveJobsLover has joined this channel (~Bacta@119.224.60.235). | Oct 10 11:17 |
| schestowitz | [11:40] <SteveJobsLover> You guys are freaks | Oct 10 11:17 |
| schestowitz | [11:41] <SteveJobsLover> Complete and utter freaks | Oct 10 11:17 |
| schestowitz | [11:41] <SteveJobsLover> How DARE you make comments about Steve Jobs' death | Oct 10 11:17 |
| schestowitz | [11:41] <SteveJobsLover> He created, he had culture. You fat slobs do not | Oct 10 11:17 |
| schestowitz | [11:41] <SteveJobsLover> How DARE you! | Oct 10 11:17 |
| schestowitz | [11:42] <SHODAN> very funny | Oct 10 11:17 |
| schestowitz | [11:43] <darwin> are you darkf? | Oct 10 11:17 |
| schestowitz | [11:43] <darwin> darkf said he was going to troll | Oct 10 11:17 |
| schestowitz | [11:46] <SteveJobsLover> I am not darkf you FREAKS | Oct 10 11:17 |
| iophk | The trolls pop up in most forums. | Oct 10 11:18 |
| schestowitz | yes, in some they get ignored | Oct 10 11:19 |
| schestowitz | As in the above case | Oct 10 11:19 |
| schestowitz | [11:48] <SteveJobsLover> Nobody would ever say they're happy someone's not around because they're dead | Oct 10 11:19 |
| schestowitz | [11:48] <SteveJobsLover> No sane person would ever say that.. | Oct 10 11:19 |
| schestowitz | [11:48] <darwin> he did not say that | Oct 10 11:19 |
| schestowitz | [11:48] <darwin> you are twisting his words | Oct 10 11:19 |
| schestowitz | [11:48] <darwin> like a devil | Oct 10 11:19 |
| schestowitz | [11:50] <SteveJobsLover> I'm not a Devil | Oct 10 11:19 |
| schestowitz | [11:51] <SteveJobsLover> Stallman might be though | Oct 10 11:19 |
| schestowitz | [11:51] <darwin> RMS might be a messiah | Oct 10 11:19 |
| schestowitz | [11:52] <SHODAN> SteveJobsLover, why don't you discuss it with him instead of trying to ridicule him? | Oct 10 11:19 |
| schestowitz | [11:53] <SteveJobsLover> Where is he? | Oct 10 11:19 |
| schestowitz | [11:54] <SHODAN> i guess you could try mailing? | Oct 10 11:19 |
| schestowitz | ^^ spot the distortion of what RMS said | Oct 10 11:20 |
| DaemonFC | uhhhm | Oct 10 11:21 |
| DaemonFC | so? | Oct 10 11:21 |
| iophk | Yes, it's about the same distortion as the trolls try elsewhere. | Oct 10 11:21 |
| DaemonFC | I've pruned the Konqueror adblock list list | Oct 10 11:21 |
| DaemonFC | and put in some useful ones | Oct 10 11:21 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 11:21 |
| DaemonFC | such as Fanboy's Annoyances list and Antisocial which both do about the same things | Oct 10 11:22 |
| DaemonFC | they get rid of those stupid Facebook and +1 buttons and stuff | Oct 10 11:22 |
| schestowitz | +1 | Oct 10 11:24 |
| DaemonFC | -1 | Oct 10 11:26 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 11:26 |
| DaemonFC | 1. They are clutter | Oct 10 11:27 |
| DaemonFC | 2. They help track you | Oct 10 11:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu 11.10 In The Offing, Will Have ARM and Cloud Features http://is.gd/4CGASI sooner than the 13th? | Oct 10 11:27 | |
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| schestowitz | Not just them | Oct 10 11:28 |
| schestowitz | Google Toolbat and MSIE do the same thing | Oct 10 11:28 |
| schestowitz | Your ISP too can track you and in the UK they might give this data to Phorm | Oct 10 11:28 |
| DaemonFC | I just noticed 7digital pages end in aspx | Oct 10 11:28 |
| schestowitz | http://www.timeslive.co.za/opinion/columnists/2011/10/10/is-ubuntu-forgotten | Oct 10 11:28 |
| schestowitz | ubuntu vs gangrape | Oct 10 11:29 |
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| schestowitz | an employee of mine is being lazy | Oct 10 11:31 |
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| schestowitz | tried to h him without being rude | Oct 10 11:31 |
| schestowitz | so much easy when one does one's work and need not rely on others' moods/life/etc | Oct 10 11:31 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: http://news.punchjump.com/2011/10/08/hp-to-investigate-touchpad-units-sold-with-android-os/ | Oct 10 11:32 |
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| schestowitz | did you geta touchpad? | Oct 10 11:32 |
| schestowitz | these were dirt cheap | Oct 10 11:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @bramalab: Youtube API, Google Apps, App Engine @ BRAMA (12.10.2011) : ur1.ca/5cvo1 (pl) / ur1.ca/5cvom (en) | Oct 10 11:32 | |
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| schestowitz | My uncle bought 4 | Oct 10 11:33 |
| schestowitz | For 2 children and wife too | Oct 10 11:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Secret order issued against Google for WikiLeaks emails | WSJ http://t.co/2BaCiuSP | Oct 10 11:34 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 10 11:34 |
| iophk1 | Did they come with Android? | Oct 10 11:34 |
| schestowitz | no | Oct 10 11:35 |
| schestowitz | His family loved webos | Oct 10 11:35 |
| schestowitz | I guess that ina way, they too are all Linux users now | Oct 10 11:36 |
| DaemonFC | WebOS is dead | Oct 10 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | throwing money at it now is pointless | Oct 10 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | unless you can rig it to run Android, it's not worth $100 | Oct 10 11:38 |
| schestowitz | For the user it's OK | Oct 10 11:39 |
| schestowitz | You surf the web, do mail, watch multimedia | Oct 10 11:40 |
| schestowitz | for a *company* to throw money into developing it might not make sense | Oct 10 11:40 |
| schestowitz | !google rumor amazon webos | Oct 10 11:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Rumor: Amazon Is In Talks to Buy webOS | http://gizmodo.com/5845405/rumor-amazon-is-in-talks-to-buy-webos | Oct 10 11:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Rumor: Amazon wants webOS for Kindle tablets | TG Daily | http://www.tgdaily.com/mobility-features/58791-rumor-amazon-wants-webos-for-kindle-tablets | Oct 10 11:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - RUMOR: Amazon rumored to be latest webOS suitor | http://www.mobileburn.com/16836/rumors/amazon-rumored-to-be-latest-webos-suitor | Oct 10 11:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Rumor: Amazon to acquire Palm-webOS? - Neowin.net | http://www.neowin.net/news/rumor-amazon-to-acquire-palm-webos | Oct 10 11:40 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Microsoft didn't show up to the dinner http://identi.ca/url/39483944 | Oct 10 11:44 | |
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| iophk | That would be excellent if Amazon bought WebOS | Oct 10 11:45 |
| oiaohm | iophk: really is webos dead | Oct 10 11:45 |
| iophk | HP gave up before even getting it to market | Oct 10 11:45 |
| oiaohm | iophk: Really go read Tizen | Oct 10 11:46 |
| iophk | oiaohm: I would have only considered a touchpad if it ran Android | Oct 10 11:47 |
| iophk | Why Tizen? Isn't that a rework of Meego? | Oct 10 11:47 |
| oiaohm | https://www.tizen.org/ | Oct 10 11:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Tizen | An open source, standards-based software platform for multiple device categories. .::. Size~: 13.4 KB | Oct 10 11:47 |
| oiaohm | iophk: interesting when you read its description then webos description. | Oct 10 11:48 |
| oiaohm | Basically the serous question is webos really dead. | Oct 10 11:48 |
| oiaohm | Or is its tech being merged. | Oct 10 11:48 |
| schestowitz | http://www.zdnet.com.au/hp-who-snuck-android-on-our-touchpad-339323966.htm | Oct 10 11:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: HP: who snuck Android on our TouchPad? - Hardware - News - ZDNet Australia .::. Size~: 76.58 KB | Oct 10 11:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Dangerous media climate for Assange extradition | ProfBlog http://t.co/M4pxERFZ | Oct 10 11:49 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 10 11:49 |
| schestowitz | "I'd say yes. Why? Because Google is in a very important stage in its tech life getting mass adoption of a plethora of its services/products.. After the issues surrounding the street view incident I think they are going to work very hard to ensure that they do nothing which could bring a question mark over their customer treatment/services. Just look at how much bad PR came out of the "real names" policy, so I think Google realize how | Oct 10 11:50 |
| schestowitz | unforgiving the public are if, the service is more than it seems or presents them with issues which which were unexpected." | Oct 10 11:50 |
| schestowitz | http://joindiaspora.com/posts/593378 | Oct 10 11:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 10 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | http://theoatmeal.com/comics/netflix | Oct 10 11:50 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Europeans more worried about climate change than economic crisis - http://bit.ly/n9QKSz rather impressive | Oct 10 11:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Europeans more worried about climate change than economic crisis | TG Daily .::. Size~: 50.04 KB | Oct 10 11:52 |
| oiaohm | iophk: there is a reason why hp might merge webos tech into meego tech for tizen.org | Oct 10 11:53 |
| oiaohm | iophk: reason tizen tech will fall under oin patent shield. | Oct 10 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | http://theoatmeal.com/comics/apple | Oct 10 11:54 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Eric Raymond: On Steve Jobs’s passing http://ur1.ca/5c8er | Oct 10 11:55 | |
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| oiaohm | There are a lot of odd things go on at the moment. | Oct 10 11:58 |
| oiaohm | Like the many hardware makers lining up behind tizen and that is thanks to microsoft being a patent prick. | Oct 10 11:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | yeah, clearly the death of steve jobs has put things into motion that mortal men cannot comprehend. clearly. | Oct 10 11:58 |
| iophk | oiaohm: OIN can't protect against the patent trolls, though. | Oct 10 11:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Steve Jobs, Control Freak" http://ur1.ca/5cw76 | Oct 10 11:59 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Steve Jobs, Control Freak - Goodbye, Microsoft® .::. Size~: 20.45 KB | Oct 10 11:59 |
| oiaohm | iophk: Really OIN agreement has never beening fully pulled to account. | Oct 10 11:59 |
| oiaohm | patent trolls need tech assess like everyone else. | Oct 10 12:00 |
| iophk | OIN might help against Apple or MS | Oct 10 12:00 |
| schestowitz | It does | Oct 10 12:02 |
| oiaohm | Against apple and MS it truly does. | Oct 10 12:03 |
| oiaohm | Crossing OIN equals cutting off hardware supply. | Oct 10 12:03 |
| oiaohm | No hardware no microsoft or apple. | Oct 10 12:03 |
| oiaohm | Taken to the extream it truly does mean no hardware for any troll. | Oct 10 12:03 |
| oiaohm | Since all IP rights by all members of OIN get revoked from the attacker. | Oct 10 12:04 |
| oiaohm | OIN does contain a nice and nasty MAD if it is every fully applied. | Oct 10 12:04 |
| schestowitz | The MS-bribed Harry McCracken is joining the atack on RMS | Oct 10 12:07 |
| schestowitz | f_acc = | Oct 10 12:07 |
| schestowitz | 0 0 0 0 0 7.7019 1.3351 32.3319 9.1835 7.5962 | Oct 10 12:07 |
| schestowitz | http://technologizer.com/2011/10/09/apple-steve-jobs-stallman/ | Oct 10 12:07 |
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| schestowitz | !google McCracken techrights | Oct 10 12:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - IDG/IDC (Yardena Arar): Bribed by Microsoft | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2008/11/09/yardena-arar-bribed-by-ms/ | Oct 10 12:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - 2008 November 09 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2008/11/09/ | Oct 10 12:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - 2011 April 22 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/04/22/ | Oct 10 12:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - SCO's Strategic Consultant Mike Anderer Foresaw ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/04/22/bedrock-intellectual-ventures-and-linux/ | Oct 10 12:07 |
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| schestowitz | !google McCracken technologizer | Oct 10 12:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Technologizer | http://technologizer.com/ | Oct 10 12:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Technologizer | About Technologizer & Harry McCracken | http://technologizer.com/about/ | Oct 10 12:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Google's Nexus One: First Impressions | PCWorld | http://www.pcworld.com/article/186033/googles_nexus_one_first_impressions.html | Oct 10 12:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Harry McCracken, Technologizer, IdeasProject Video- Bring People ... | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DITZOcfgA09k | Oct 10 12:08 |
| schestowitz | !google techrights technologizer | Oct 10 12:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_Critique | Oct 10 12:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - 9 - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/03/17/android-mono-silverlight-danger/ | Oct 10 12:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - 2008 November 09 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2008/11/09/ | Oct 10 12:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Estimation: 30% of IT Patent Lawsuits Come from Patent ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/01/10/report-on-patent-trolls/ | Oct 10 12:08 |
| schestowitz | oddly enough, that page is not in Google, almost as though it got censored | Oct 10 12:08 |
| schestowitz | "Freedom, apparently, is just another word for agreeing with Richard M. Stallman and Eric S. Raymond." | Oct 10 12:09 |
| schestowitz | BTW | Oct 10 12:09 |
| schestowitz | It turns out that the MS cult was behind derailing FOSS in Bristol | Oct 10 12:09 |
| schestowitz | So it seems now | Oct 10 12:10 |
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| schestowitz | These people call FSF cult, but their cult with millions of people enlisted is a lot more troubling then anything | Oct 10 12:10 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: first sign of MS Cult problems is Linux claimed as secuirty weaker than Windows. | Oct 10 12:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Italian Wikipedia Goes Dark After Law Threatens to Outlaw Wikis http://ur1.ca/5cwe8 | Oct 10 12:14 | |
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| schestowitz | that's what they did in Bristol | Oct 10 12:20 |
| schestowitz | They spread this FUD | Oct 10 12:20 |
| schestowitz | and crashed a done deal | Oct 10 12:20 |
| schestowitz | anyway, I'll do a post about thie later | Oct 10 12:20 |
| iophk | Or it can be called plain old disinformation, with no uncertainty or doubt. | Oct 10 12:20 |
| schestowitz | I have cleared my whole day... so that I can code more | Oct 10 12:21 |
| oiaohm | iophk: no its fud | Oct 10 12:21 |
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| schestowitz | iophk: as I understand it: | Oct 10 12:21 |
| DaemonFC | [07:14] <DaemonFC> The Italian fascists are going to outlaw wikis | Oct 10 12:21 |
| DaemonFC | [07:14] <DaemonFC> maybe this is a front so Microsoft Encarta, Britannica, and Comptons can start making a comeback :) | Oct 10 12:21 |
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| DaemonFC | [07:15] <DaemonFC> back when Encarta still existed, I did look up "linux" on it, and the article was surprisingly neutral and more or less accurate | Oct 10 12:21 |
| schestowitz | and will explain later | Oct 10 12:21 |
| DaemonFC | [07:15] <DaemonFC> which surprised me | Oct 10 12:21 |
| DaemonFC | [07:15] <DaemonFC> but Wikipedia has always been better than static content that goes years without changing | Oct 10 12:21 |
| DaemonFC | [07:17] <DaemonFC> traditional monolithic encyclopedias with a few paid editors are useless for documenting software | Oct 10 12:21 |
| oiaohm | the MS cult use well developed FUD | Oct 10 12:21 |
| DaemonFC | [07:17] <DaemonFC> and they always lack current events | Oct 10 12:21 |
| schestowitz | iophk: as I understand it: | Oct 10 12:21 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 12:21 |
| schestowitz | [you got disconnected] | Oct 10 12:21 |
| iophk | Too blatant to be FUD, it looks to me like disinformation. | Oct 10 12:21 |
| schestowitz | my employer had a deakl with the government | Oct 10 12:21 |
| oiaohm | remember IBM developed FUD. | Oct 10 12:21 |
| schestowitz | then watch what happened | Oct 10 12:21 |
| oiaohm | being blatant is part of it. | Oct 10 12:21 |
| schestowitz | http://www.bristol247.com/2011/10/10/green-light-for-open-source-software-at-bristol-city-council/ | Oct 10 12:22 |
| oiaohm | You want to create fear. | Oct 10 12:22 |
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| DaemonFC | Oracle and IBM fighting each other is like a Jerry Springer slapfight | Oct 10 12:22 |
| DaemonFC | attacking RHEL while basing Oracle Linux on it isn't cool | Oct 10 12:22 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 10 12:22 |
| schestowitz | Bristol City Council has been cleared to build an IT infrastructure using open source software after a visit from CESG, the cyber security arm of the UK intelligence services. | Oct 10 12:22 |
| schestowitz | Complaints about CESG’s obstruction of open source software were branded “folk-law” at a meeting the security body held in Bristol last week, with council leader Barbara Jenke, Bristol IT chiefs Paul Arrigoni and Gavin Beckett, and executives from the Cabinet Office. | Oct 10 12:22 |
| schestowitz | The meeting came after it emerged Microsoft reseller Computacenter, which Bristol contracted to assess the policy, had advised the council it could not use open source systems without falling foul of security rules. The advice put paid to the council’s wish to use open source software. | Oct 10 12:22 |
| oiaohm | Yep Oracle vs IBM is the best off the FUD going. | Oct 10 12:22 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 10 12:22 |
| iophk | Mentioning IBM to any IT manager back in the 1980's was a guaranteed way to make them turn colors and sputter with anger. Most of M$ dirty tricks were originally developed by IBM> | Oct 10 12:22 |
| oiaohm | CESG infact responding that open source did not need the same certifications as closed source. | Oct 10 12:23 |
| DaemonFC | the student surpassed the teacher | Oct 10 12:23 |
| schestowitz | mpst of apple's atrategies were developed in disney :-) | Oct 10 12:23 |
| schestowitz | iophk: read the above | Oct 10 12:23 |
| oiaohm | Since CESG could audit open source applications same as internally developed programs. | Oct 10 12:23 |
| schestowitz | may be familiar | Oct 10 12:23 |
| oiaohm | What is very interesting. | Oct 10 12:23 |
| schestowitz | they operate like a cult | Oct 10 12:23 |
| oiaohm | Where MS has to go threw a long certification process with CESG | Oct 10 12:23 |
| DaemonFC | immediately talking about your next product the day after you launch your current one (when the next one doesn't even exist) is my favorite Microsoft trick | Oct 10 12:23 |
| oiaohm | open source can go the internal fast track. | Oct 10 12:23 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: vista8 ia already out | Oct 10 12:24 |
| schestowitz | microsoft is ahead | Oct 10 12:24 |
| iophk | So the culprit is Computacenter | Oct 10 12:24 |
| DaemonFC | it's meant to freeze the market as if something is in the pipeline | Oct 10 12:24 |
| schestowitz | iophk: microsoft proxy | Oct 10 12:24 |
| iophk | Most of MS work is by proxy. | Oct 10 12:24 |
| schestowitz | remember this is about replacing ms office | Oct 10 12:24 |
| oiaohm | Computacenter is fully owned by Microsoft from memory. | Oct 10 12:24 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: check owner ship of Computacenter | Oct 10 12:25 |
| schestowitz | fully? | Oct 10 12:25 |
| oiaohm | The one in australia was fully microsoft | Oct 10 12:25 |
| DaemonFC | I tried opening some OOXML files in LibreOffice 3.4.3 | Oct 10 12:25 |
| schestowitz | can you find a link? | Oct 10 12:25 |
| iophk | Replacing MS Office would bring in ODF which would mean no more monopoly on productivity software file formats. | Oct 10 12:25 |
| oiaohm | Before the renamed to donatech | Oct 10 12:25 |
| DaemonFC | it does a better job than it or OOo used to, but Calligra is better | Oct 10 12:25 |
| schestowitz | A Microsoft by any other name | Oct 10 12:26 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, those garbage men are going to be pissed when they pull up here | Oct 10 12:26 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: I have a long memory of MS names. | Oct 10 12:26 |
| schestowitz | why? is dawn sleeping in the can again? | Oct 10 12:26 |
| DaemonFC | lol! | Oct 10 12:26 |
| DaemonFC | no | Oct 10 12:26 |
| DaemonFC | there's about 20 pounds of used cat litter in there | Oct 10 12:26 |
| DaemonFC | and a week's worth of garbage | Oct 10 12:27 |
| schestowitz | they might confuse her for trash | Oct 10 12:27 |
| oiaohm | Of course the computacenter might not be microsoft but since it a old name they used there are a good odds it is microsoft. schestowitz | Oct 10 12:27 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: No confusion | Oct 10 12:27 |
| DaemonFC | they'd be right | Oct 10 12:27 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: better to check | Oct 10 12:27 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Just took me a while for my memory to assemble | Oct 10 12:27 |
| DaemonFC | the woman downstairs leaves her trash bags out by the alley for the animals to rip open and scatter | Oct 10 12:28 |
| DaemonFC | last week there was a bunch of shit all over my driveway | Oct 10 12:28 |
| DaemonFC | I picked it all up and dumped it on her back deck | Oct 10 12:28 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: But between the landlord and the police coming over every day, she eventually made her sons, Beavis and Butthead move out | Oct 10 12:29 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 12:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Attacks on WikiLeaks reveal who can be trusted on the internet and in the media. Twitter, Sonic, yes. Google, NYT, Guardian, no. | Oct 10 12:30 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: found the confusion. computacenter Uk is independant ish long term volume license provider for Microsoft. Computacenter was setup in Australia by microsoft and was forced to change the name due to trademark alignment. | Oct 10 12:34 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Yes computacenter being a MS gold panter you we bet large pecent of there staff have been threw the MS brainwashing to learn how not to think. | Oct 10 12:35 |
| schestowitz | thanks | Oct 10 12:38 |
| schestowitz | I'll use that | Oct 10 12:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Also fought for WikiLeaks: OVH (substantially), Bahnhof and PRQ. | Oct 10 12:39 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: what bit | Oct 10 12:40 |
| oiaohm | The schestowitz I guess the MS gold partner bit. | Oct 10 12:40 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder if the webkit kpart is abandoned | Oct 10 12:45 |
| DaemonFC | if it is, that probably means Konqueror isn't a priority anymore | Oct 10 12:46 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I could never find in konq how to enable webkit mode | Oct 10 12:47 |
| schestowitz | I also was told to try rekonq | Oct 10 12:47 |
| iophk | Being a volume license provider is a long way from being an independent resource. | Oct 10 12:47 |
| schestowitz | Is it worth it. Will it preserve passwords and bookmarks from kde? | Oct 10 12:47 |
| schestowitz | iophk: the plan was to put OOo on 3000 govt desktops | Oct 10 12:48 |
| schestowitz | with ODF | Oct 10 12:48 |
| DaemonFC | it shares bookmarks, passwords, history, and cookies in a way that you can go back and forth between it and Konqueror | Oct 10 12:48 |
| schestowitz | I guess they sell MS Office in volume | Oct 10 12:48 |
| DaemonFC | the webkit kpart should be available in your repository somewhere, but Rekonq is better | Oct 10 12:48 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: ok, let me try it then | Oct 10 12:48 |
| DaemonFC | the webkit kpartdoesn't properly use other kparts so things Konqueror can handle don't work anymore | Oct 10 12:49 |
| DaemonFC | like magnet links | Oct 10 12:49 |
| schestowitz | roy@roy:~$ apt-get install rekonq | Oct 10 12:49 |
| schestowitz | E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied) | Oct 10 12:49 |
| schestowitz | E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root? | Oct 10 12:49 |
| schestowitz | roy@roy:~$ sudo !! | Oct 10 12:49 |
| schestowitz | sudo apt-get install rekonq | Oct 10 12:49 |
| DaemonFC | and the adblock plugin doesn't work with the kpart | Oct 10 12:49 |
| schestowitz | [sudo] password for roy: | Oct 10 12:49 |
| schestowitz | Reading package lists... Done | Oct 10 12:49 |
| schestowitz | Building dependency tree | Oct 10 12:49 |
| schestowitz | Reading state information... Done | Oct 10 12:49 |
| schestowitz | The following NEW packages will be installed | Oct 10 12:49 |
| schestowitz | rekonq | Oct 10 12:49 |
| schestowitz | 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 119 not upgraded. | Oct 10 12:49 |
| schestowitz | Need to get 359kB of archives. | Oct 10 12:49 |
| schestowitz | After this operation, 1,331kB of additional disk space will be used. | Oct 10 12:49 |
| DaemonFC | you're using Lucid though right? | Oct 10 12:50 |
| DaemonFC | it'll be a few versions behind | Oct 10 12:50 |
| DaemonFC | and qtwebkit won't be up to date | Oct 10 12:50 |
| DaemonFC | 2.2 is a lot nicer than earlier releases | Oct 10 12:50 |
| schestowitz | hmmm... it crashed | Oct 10 12:51 |
| iophk | schestowitz: ODF has them frightened | Oct 10 12:51 |
| schestowitz | rekonq(2423)/kdecore (KConfigSkeleton) KCoreConfigSkeleton::writeConfig: | Oct 10 12:52 |
| schestowitz | QInotifyFileSystemWatcherEngine::addPaths: inotify_add_watch failed: No such file or directory | Oct 10 12:52 |
| schestowitz | QFileSystemWatcher: failed to add paths: /home/roy/.config/ibus/bus | Oct 10 12:52 |
| schestowitz | Bus::open: Can not get ibus-daemon's address. | Oct 10 12:52 |
| schestowitz | IBusInputContext::createInputContext: no connection to ibus-daemon | Oct 10 12:52 |
| schestowitz | rekonq(2423)/kdecore (KConfigSkeleton) KCoreConfigSkeleton::writeConfig: | Oct 10 12:52 |
| schestowitz | KCrash: Application 'rekonq' crashing... | Oct 10 12:52 |
| schestowitz | sock_file=/home/roy/.kde/socket-roy/kdeinit4__0 | Oct 10 12:52 |
| schestowitz | Warning: connect() failed: : Connection refused | Oct 10 12:52 |
| schestowitz | KCrash cannot reach kdeinit, launching directly. | Oct 10 12:52 |
| schestowitz | QSocketNotifier: Invalid socket 17 and type 'Read', disabling... | Oct 10 12:52 |
| schestowitz | iophk: yes, cause the public follows govt requirements | Oct 10 12:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] ZOMG! @rms ADMITS he MURDERED Steve Jobs, yet he walks free! I warned you he was often awkward & unreasonably resolute, but did you listen? | Oct 10 12:52 | |
| DaemonFC | eeek | Oct 10 12:52 |
| schestowitz | rekonq looks like chromium GUI | Oct 10 12:52 |
| iophk | It's a joke, but one could ask what took out his liver. | Oct 10 12:52 |
| schestowitz | renders fonts OK | Oct 10 12:53 |
| schestowitz | uses kde global bookmarks | Oct 10 12:53 |
| schestowitz | Wow | Oct 10 12:53 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: the newer one is also licensed under GPL 3 | Oct 10 12:54 |
| schestowitz | It's more comoatible with JS stuff that konq | Oct 10 12:54 |
| MinceR | http://www.explosm.net/db/files/Comics/Dave/comicrollover1.png | Oct 10 12:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Oct 10 12:54 |
| schestowitz | Loving it already | Oct 10 12:54 |
| schestowitz | it crashed only on first run when it tries emulating chrome-style previews | Oct 10 12:54 |
| DaemonFC | it has a speed dial thingy | Oct 10 12:54 |
| DaemonFC | like Opera | Oct 10 12:54 |
| schestowitz | Which works now | Oct 10 12:55 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: YES | Oct 10 12:55 |
| schestowitz | I was gonna say opera | Oct 10 12:55 |
| schestowitz | But most people associate that with Chrome | Oct 10 12:55 |
| schestowitz | Because Opera never got much hype like Google | Oct 10 12:55 |
| schestowitz | Opera beat them to it by about a year or less | Oct 10 12:55 |
| DaemonFC | the goal is a konqueror style web browser with native webkit support | Oct 10 12:55 |
| DaemonFC | not through a kpart abstraction | Oct 10 12:55 |
| schestowitz | it works very well so far | Oct 10 12:55 |
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| DaemonFC | http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/3536/snapshot2ej.png | Oct 10 12:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Oct 10 12:56 |
| schestowitz | some web 2.0 ish sites that didn't work with konq all that well work pefectly with rekonq | Oct 10 12:56 |
| DaemonFC | right, it has webkit, which sites design for | Oct 10 12:56 |
| DaemonFC | it's also much more standards compliant than khtml | Oct 10 12:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Over on Diaspora: The blind leading the blind - why I think that the mainstream user will always be exploited. http://goo.gl/HdHKB | Oct 10 12:57 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 10 12:57 |
| schestowitz | Starting to look potentially fat | Oct 10 12:58 |
| schestowitz | already 100mb of ram | Oct 10 12:58 |
| DaemonFC | it's actually using less RAM than Konqueror with KHTML, for me anyway | Oct 10 12:58 |
| DaemonFC | but I have the latest versions of everything | Oct 10 12:58 |
| DaemonFC | so I don't know what you're seeing :) | Oct 10 12:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the man who backed #Coulson over #NOTW backs #Fox over his mate having access to DOD secrets #Conservatives #corruption #elite | Oct 10 13:07 | |
| schestowitz | rekonq has tab previews, better site compatibility, it's faster, nicer UI, and many other things (like Qt-based Chromium without the envesdropping). | Oct 10 13:09 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84513581 | Oct 10 13:09 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, and you're using a version from early last year | Oct 10 13:09 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 13:09 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84513334 | Oct 10 13:09 |
| DaemonFC | it has improved considerably | Oct 10 13:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 10-Oct-11 11:55:59 UTC - Identi.ca: Thanks to all those who suggested moving from #konqueror to #rekonq which is now my primary Web browser. It's fantastic! #kde | Oct 10 13:10 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: what's new in it now? | Oct 10 13:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 10-Oct-11 11:33:13 UTC - Identi.ca: TechBytes Episode 63: Enter KDE http://ur1.ca/5cwol #TechBytes | Oct 10 13:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: TechBytes Episode 63: Enter KDE | Techrights .::. Size~: 105.63 KB | Oct 10 13:10 |
| schestowitz | goblin uses kde now | Oct 10 13:10 |
| schestowitz | We had him test it again | Oct 10 13:10 |
| DaemonFC | thousands of bug fixes/improvements to qtwebkit alone | Oct 10 13:10 |
| schestowitz | he likes it this time | Oct 10 13:10 |
| schestowitz | he used to bash it | Oct 10 13:10 |
| DaemonFC | lots of bugs fixed in rekonq itself | Oct 10 13:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] DataRecovery - Community Ubuntu Documentation - #floss #tips http://ur1.ca/gcix | Oct 10 13:12 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: thanks for the tip | Oct 10 13:19 |
| schestowitz | wish I had moved to it earlier | Oct 10 13:19 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 13:20 |
| schestowitz | I can hardly see why anyone would use konq now | Oct 10 13:20 |
| schestowitz | it has good qt integration | Oct 10 13:20 |
| schestowitz | decdnt ram footprint | Oct 10 13:20 |
| schestowitz | [don't get me started about FF] | Oct 10 13:20 |
| DaemonFC | Rekonq has been the Kubuntu default for a while now | Oct 10 13:20 |
| schestowitz | starts faster than konq I think | Oct 10 13:20 |
| DaemonFC | last couple releases | Oct 10 13:20 |
| schestowitz | Which is surprising | Oct 10 13:20 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: oh, really? | Oct 10 13:20 |
| schestowitz | Well i'm on lts | Oct 10 13:20 |
| schestowitz | so.. | Oct 10 13:20 |
| DaemonFC | yes, the default install doesn't have konqueror | Oct 10 13:21 |
| DaemonFC | since 10.10 | Oct 10 13:21 |
| schestowitz | Prior to that I was on 9.10 alpha | Oct 10 13:21 |
| DaemonFC | Rekonq is the browser, Dolphin is the file manager | Oct 10 13:21 |
| schestowitz | After you had recommended that I move to it from Mandriva | Oct 10 13:21 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: so what happens with konq then? | Oct 10 13:21 |
| schestowitz | and what about arora? | Oct 10 13:21 |
| schestowitz | Or other such efforts? | Oct 10 13:22 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, Mandriva used to be good, but it fell apart and now there's some crazy Russians running it | Oct 10 13:22 |
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| DaemonFC | Konqueror is still installable | Oct 10 13:22 |
| schestowitz | Linux seems to have more browsers than all the proprietary ones combined sometimes | Oct 10 13:22 |
| DaemonFC | Arora is deadish | Oct 10 13:22 |
| DaemonFC | it comes back to life for a while now and then and then the author takes an extended leave | Oct 10 13:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] The alphabet as its taught in modern times: http://goo.gl/h3bw3 | Oct 10 13:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 10 13:22 |
| DaemonFC | so Rekonq has more predictable development | Oct 10 13:22 |
| schestowitz | I will still use 4 browsers, I think | Oct 10 13:23 |
| schestowitz | I need the search bar in konq | Oct 10 13:23 |
| DaemonFC | the address bar in rekonq is also the search bar | Oct 10 13:23 |
| schestowitz | unless rekonq can also do customs searches with keywords, | Oct 10 13:23 |
| DaemonFC | Kubuntu broke the default Google web shortcut btw | Oct 10 13:24 |
| DaemonFC | there's two googles | Oct 10 13:24 |
| schestowitz | I still cannot find any search bar other than the address bar | Oct 10 13:24 |
| DaemonFC | if you delete the one that has kubuntu in the link and switch to the other one, suggestions work again | Oct 10 13:24 |
| DaemonFC | yes, it supports the same shortcuts that Konqueror does | Oct 10 13:25 |
| DaemonFC | and changing your search engine settings in one, changes the other | Oct 10 13:25 |
| DaemonFC | dd would get you duckduckgo for instance | Oct 10 13:25 |
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| DaemonFC | and gg will give you google | Oct 10 13:27 |
| DaemonFC | but if you use duckduckgo anyway, you can also use !g to get google | Oct 10 13:27 |
| DaemonFC | because it's one of their bangs | Oct 10 13:27 |
| DaemonFC | if you look at the webkit settings in the configuration menu you'll notice there's some things to tweak to disable web nuisances | Oct 10 13:30 |
| DaemonFC | like I don't let javascript open pop-ups | Oct 10 13:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #quotes - "If I have seen further it is only by standing on the shoulders of giants." Isaac Newton | Science and #FLOSS have much in common | Oct 10 13:31 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Apparently McAfee Site Adviser and AVG's Link Scanner both malfunctioned with Google's +1 | Oct 10 13:32 |
| DaemonFC | since they click on every link in the results, they ended up +1ing everything | Oct 10 13:33 |
| DaemonFC | +1's for everyone! | Oct 10 13:33 |
| DaemonFC | also, the antivirus link scanners tend to claim they are Internet Explorer | Oct 10 13:34 |
| DaemonFC | so they drive up Internet Explorer's usage share | Oct 10 13:34 |
| DaemonFC | by how much, it's impossible to say, but by a non-trivial amount | Oct 10 13:34 |
| DaemonFC | and if that's not good enough, there are so many people that get this stuff installed along with their Windows antivirus, it causes bandwidth bills for many innocent sites to increase | Oct 10 13:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Mass Production for the Masses: Shapeways CEO Peter Weijmarshausen on the Rise of Personal Manufacturing - http://ur1.ca/5cxav #3dprinting | Oct 10 13:35 | |
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| schestowitz | "Proprietary Stuff can never be trusted" http://joindiaspora.com/posts/593378 | Oct 10 13:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 10 13:37 |
| iophk | http://cm.bell-labs.com/who/ken/trust.html | Oct 10 13:37 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: oj! | Oct 10 13:37 |
| schestowitz | It inherits shortcuts from konq | Oct 10 13:38 |
| schestowitz | So if I type BN: it searches internally in TR | Oct 10 13:38 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Oct 10 13:38 |
| schestowitz | joy | Oct 10 13:38 |
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| schestowitz | konqueror gave a simple googl search results page (SERP | Oct 10 13:38 |
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| schestowitz | In rekonq it shows up as intended | Oct 10 13:38 |
| schestowitz | the gui is very much like chrom | Oct 10 13:39 |
| schestowitz | the buttoms , the settings and star on the top right corner | Oct 10 13:39 |
| schestowitz | it's like they emulated it in qt | Oct 10 13:39 |
| schestowitz | I also have chromium installed BTW | Oct 10 13:39 |
| schestowitz | I don't like how it feels | Oct 10 13:39 |
| DaemonFC | and vice versa | Oct 10 13:40 |
| DaemonFC | if you go back to konqueror, anything you did in rekonq sticks | Oct 10 13:40 |
| DaemonFC | cookie policies, search engines, browsing history | Oct 10 13:40 |
| schestowitz | hmm... I now have 705 videos in youtube | Oct 10 13:40 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/user/schestowitz | Oct 10 13:40 |
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| DaemonFC | bookmarks too | Oct 10 13:41 |
| schestowitz | only started really uploading some a few months back | Oct 10 13:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 10 13:42 |
| schestowitz | I was going to ask that! - I had occasion recently (on advice of someone in #techrights) to give it a go. Rendering speed was terrible and I fail to see any any advantage on my rig to migrating from any of my choices to it.... | Oct 10 13:42 |
| schestowitz | Having said that, Ive been less than enthused with Konqueror...give me Chromium anyday. | Oct 10 13:42 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 10 13:42 |
| schestowitz | I now use Konqueror and rekonq interchangeably. Firefox and Chromium will be left around for particular tasks, whose number has just decreased considerably because rekonq pretty much works in all cases where Konqueror could not cope. | Oct 10 13:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Richard Stallman tell us the reason for taking to the streets on October 15th. #my15oct | Oct 10 13:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #CyanogenMod 7.1 custom #Android firmware released - The H Open Source #floss http://goo.gl/WQwTY | Oct 10 13:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Secret US Court Order demands email data for WikiLeaks volunteer Jacob Appelbaum – Boing Boing #usa #policestate http://goo.gl/Wuov4 | Oct 10 13:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Richard Stallman tell us the reason for taking to the streets on October 15th. http://is.gd/UqTJMO #my15oct | Oct 10 13:49 | |
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| DaemonFC | Konqueror falls apart in some pretty weird ways on some popular sites | Oct 10 13:51 |
| iophk | Why on just the 15th of October? What is the significance of that date? | Oct 10 13:51 |
| DaemonFC | duck duck go results page doesn't work in it | Oct 10 13:51 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: khtml has some really weired bugs. | Oct 10 13:51 |
| DaemonFC | http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/281/f/2/gnome_shell__nord_by_0rax0 | Oct 10 13:53 |
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| DaemonFC | not bad | Oct 10 13:53 |
| MinceR | File Not Found | Oct 10 13:54 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: the link is bust | Oct 10 13:55 |
| DaemonFC | http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/281/f/2/gnome_shell__nord_by_0rax0-d3jl36q.png | Oct 10 13:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Oct 10 13:55 |
| DaemonFC | oops | Oct 10 13:55 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 13:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Qwikster Disappears Like the Bad Dream It Was (Gizmodo): http://gizmo.do/ntPNef | Oct 10 13:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Windows 8 to cut memory usage (MSDN Blogs): http://bit.ly/ooAp2u | Oct 10 13:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] I can't believe I'm desperate enough to follow a recommendation of #bbcclick .... | Oct 10 13:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] If you don't see why a first-to-file system for copyrights & trademarks is bad, read about 'Keep Calm & Carry On' http://wmk.me/qj4uV6 | Oct 10 13:57 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://gizmodo.com/5841636/netflix-doesnt-own-the-qwikster-twitter-feed-this-foulmouthed-pothead-does/gallery/1?tag=qwikster | Oct 10 14:01 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Google begins to detail #Dart - The H Open Source #floss http://goo.gl/VdGjo http://golang.org/ http://www.dartlang.org/ | Oct 10 14:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Copyright claim against time zone database - The H Open Source #WTF #MAFIAA strikes again... http://goo.gl/aGZSP | Oct 10 14:03 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I found some things that crash rekonq (this old version anyway) | Oct 10 14:08 |
| schestowitz | I;'m willing to suffer a little to use a more exotic project | Oct 10 14:08 |
| schestowitz | promoting diversity and projects of small dev communites is important IMHO | Oct 10 14:08 |
| DaemonFC | the only thing that got me every once in a while was Flash | Oct 10 14:08 |
| DaemonFC | I turned it to manually load plugins | Oct 10 14:08 |
| schestowitz | trash works ok in it, so far | Oct 10 14:09 |
| DaemonFC | that way I don't get zapped because some jackass loaded a flash applet I don't care about | Oct 10 14:09 |
| DaemonFC | I don't really like flash anyway and never have | Oct 10 14:10 |
| DaemonFC | before everything started using it for videos, I had it blacklisted so nothing could even offer it to me | Oct 10 14:11 |
| DaemonFC | but that was years ago | Oct 10 14:11 |
| DaemonFC | at the time, the only thing really using it for anything was ad companies | Oct 10 14:11 |
| DaemonFC | like I want a plug-in dedicated to facilitating that | Oct 10 14:11 |
| DaemonFC | and manually load (or flash block or whatever) is for the best anyway | Oct 10 14:13 |
| DaemonFC | because a lot of sites use invisible applets to track you with | Oct 10 14:13 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The real reason for it crashing is they only really design it with Firefox and maybe Chrome in mind | Oct 10 14:14 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Flash mr memory leak? | Oct 10 14:15 |
| DaemonFC | if you run Konqueror or Rekonq from the terminal and go to a flash site, it starts spitting out all kinds of errors | Oct 10 14:16 |
| DaemonFC | eventually one of them kills it | Oct 10 14:16 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: I am not kidding about mr memory leak | Oct 10 14:17 |
| oiaohm | Also flash will deallocate memory it has passed over to the browser as well. | Oct 10 14:17 |
| MinceR | i disabled the trash plugin in my main browsing profile | Oct 10 14:17 |
| oiaohm | Yep supper pain in but. | Oct 10 14:17 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: firefox from time to fime has flash go splat as well. | Oct 10 14:18 |
| oiaohm | Just firefox is a little bit more resistane to death than Rekonq | Oct 10 14:18 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I could not watch all the Job's memorial edition, it is getting too much. | Oct 10 14:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Retired Egyptian general says that protesters who were killed were armed with machine guns and had killed 4 army officers. | Oct 10 14:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Linux or UNIX Recover deleted files – undelete files #floss #tips http://goo.gl/EXz1a | Oct 10 14:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] voted for "With my left hand, facing into the wind." | Oct 10 14:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] voted for "All I want is lovin' you and music, music, music!" | Oct 10 14:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Has he expressed an interest in G+? | Oct 10 14:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] And too well brought up I imagine. | Oct 10 14:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] New turbine hall installation at Tate Modern is a call to arms to protect film as opposed to digital film. It degrades, quality issues. Why? | Oct 10 14:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU #Greens Come On Board Pirates' #Copyright Agenda - http://bit.ly/qZM8sw pretty significant political development for the future | Oct 10 15:16 | |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/omfgthelife/statuses/123339136185794560 | Oct 10 15:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @omfgthelife: Nov 5 is not far away. Waiting to see what happens when Anon takes on Facebook. @schestowitz @angadc: Any thoughts on the outcome? | Oct 10 15:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] British Defence Secretary caught doing what politicians do; that is giving special access to their friends. institutionalised #corruption. | Oct 10 15:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Graves' #Bushcraft Books: 00. Introduction http://goo.gl/MaJAS | Oct 10 15:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Yes, I should have put #lobbying instead of institutionalised. | Oct 10 15:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] .@Mozilla wants to create a web literate planet, and we think it's a great idea: http://bit.ly/p0MxD2 #OER | Oct 10 15:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Btw, have you registered for #mozfest, a maker sprint for anyone curious about the #openweb in London, Nov 4-6? http://bit.ly/ohM67v | Oct 10 15:46 | |
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| schestowitz | "I'm less than enthused with how Chromium helps develop Chrome, the most privacy invading browser on the web, imo. " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/593859 | Oct 10 15:47 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @monkchips ten years later, it seems as if there aren’t any more rich countries. Just a whole lot of rich people monk.ly/nl4deF #ows | Oct 10 15:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Open Source: Why Military Forces Should Use Linux « The ERACC Web Log #mic #floss http://goo.gl/hjQYf | Oct 10 15:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Traffic plunges for Google+ as 60% of users log off (Mail Online): http://bit.ly/oA3eWQ | Oct 10 16:00 | |
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| DaemonFC | not the most | Oct 10 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | but if you don't count Internet Explorer, it probably is | Oct 10 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: if you use Chromium and turn a bunch of "features" off, it's acceptable | Oct 10 16:09 |
| DaemonFC | but who does that, right? | Oct 10 16:09 |
| DaemonFC | it allows them to say they're giving you the choice | Oct 10 16:09 |
| DaemonFC | even though they can opt you in and hide the checkboxes behind some settings menus | Oct 10 16:09 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Internet Explorer has a bunch of things you can opt in or out of but no matter what you tell it, it still phones home | Oct 10 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | so I still say IE is worse than Chrome | Oct 10 16:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] http://rpmchallenge.com/ - you have a chance to fix that this February... | Oct 10 16:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 10 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft did another "Get The Facts" biased study paid for by them and done by one of their partners | Oct 10 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | which was to suggest IE can block more malware and phishing sites than Chrome, Firefox, or Opera | Oct 10 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | which is ridiculous | Oct 10 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | Firefox and Chrome use Google's Safe Browsing API, and Opera uses that plus netcraft and phishtank | Oct 10 16:13 |
| DaemonFC | Internet Explorer phones home to Microsoft whenever you download anything | Oct 10 16:13 |
| DaemonFC | so if you go to the pirate bay and download a torrent file, it tells them about that | Oct 10 16:13 |
| DaemonFC | now, Google said it wants to do something like that for Chrome, but so far all there is is a set of potentially dangerous file types it will warn you about opening | Oct 10 16:14 |
| DaemonFC | that has to be the most malicious privacy violation posing as a security feature ever | Oct 10 16:14 |
| DaemonFC | and the second that Firefox does something like that, I won't touch Firefox (not that I think they would, there'd be too much blowback) | Oct 10 16:15 |
| DaemonFC | remember, Firefox users are mostly a self-selected group | Oct 10 16:15 |
| DaemonFC | Chrome is getting marketshare via drive by downloads on Windows with unrelated programs | Oct 10 16:15 |
| DaemonFC | there's a quality user that Firefox has that Chrome doesn't | Oct 10 16:16 |
| DaemonFC | and it will allow Google to get away with more | Oct 10 16:16 |
| DaemonFC | the only "major" browsers I really trust are Mozilla ones, and maybe Opera | Oct 10 16:16 |
| DaemonFC | Google has a worse EULA than Opera does | Oct 10 16:17 |
| DaemonFC | it has a really long EULA that covers the software AND the web "services" | Oct 10 16:17 |
| DaemonFC | when you use Opera, you only agree to the EULA for Opera | Oct 10 16:17 |
| DaemonFC | you don't agree to the EULA for Unite or Link until you actually try to use them | Oct 10 16:18 |
| DaemonFC | so it doesn't give them a blanket "you can spy on me" just for using the browser, unlike Chrome | Oct 10 16:18 |
| DaemonFC | Google is really milking this Chromium as open core thing | Oct 10 16:18 |
| DaemonFC | and in the mean time, they do nasty shit to make it hard on Linux distributions to package and support Chromium instead of Chrome | Oct 10 16:19 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not even sure the privacy violations in Chromium are even legal since you didn't have to agree to them to use the software, but they're still on by default anyway | Oct 10 16:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] We are looking for tech people who can translate a short user manual for new #Tor users into Arabic, Chinese, Farsi or Spanish. | Oct 10 16:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @sandersch Miauw http://ur1.ca/5cym9 | Oct 10 16:20 | |
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| *DaemonFC is now known as Heisenberg | Oct 10 16:27 | |
| *Heisenberg is now known as HeisenbergFC | Oct 10 16:27 | |
| *HeisenbergFC is now known as DaemonFC | Oct 10 16:28 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: lol | Oct 10 16:29 |
| schestowitz | probably some joke in another channel? | Oct 10 16:29 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Oct 10 16:29 |
| schestowitz | Sorry, couldn't respond for a while. Doing some coding today. | Oct 10 16:30 |
| DaemonFC | Walter White from Breaking Bad | Oct 10 16:30 |
| DaemonFC | Heisenberg | Oct 10 16:30 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 16:30 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_White_%28Breaking_Bad%29 | Oct 10 16:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Walter White (Breaking Bad) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 161.89 KB | Oct 10 16:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] guess 1 of main sponsors of #AndroidOpen? Hint: begins with "M" - http://bit.ly/n7mj3b well, they earn enough from android... (v @codepope) | Oct 10 16:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Heh. I'm at O'Reilly's 1st ever #AndroidOpen conf & who is a main sponsor? $GOOG? No $AMZN? No Microsoft? Yep. .::. Size~: 33.7 KB | Oct 10 16:33 |
| DaemonFC | "Gilligan has said his goal with Walter White is to turn Mr. Chips into Scarface." | Oct 10 16:34 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: you should watch it | Oct 10 16:36 |
| schestowitz | I don't watch stuff | Oct 10 16:36 |
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| DaemonFC | that scene where he melted the guy with hydrofluoric acid in the bathtub was hilarious | Oct 10 16:36 |
| schestowitz | Unless it's short and streamable | Oct 10 16:36 |
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| schestowitz | does not sound hilarious, just shocking | Oct 10 16:37 |
| DaemonFC | the way it's presented is hilarious | Oct 10 16:37 |
| DaemonFC | his idiot partner did it instead of finding a plastic bucket | Oct 10 16:38 |
| schestowitz | So it makes homocide look funny? | Oct 10 16:38 |
| DaemonFC | and so the acid ate through the tub and through the floor | Oct 10 16:38 |
| schestowitz | homicide | Oct 10 16:38 |
| DaemonFC | and this mess of acid and dissolved dead guy go splattering everywhere | Oct 10 16:38 |
| DaemonFC | well, the guy was a bad guy | Oct 10 16:39 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 16:39 |
| schestowitz | some people's 'bad guy"is RMS | Oct 10 16:39 |
| DaemonFC | this guy sold crystal meth and murdered people | Oct 10 16:39 |
| schestowitz | to some guy in Norway, children of certain parents were "bad guys" | Oct 10 16:39 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 16:39 |
| schestowitz | [and girls] | Oct 10 16:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Ubuntu 11.10 server to feature Arm support (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/nTqKHc | Oct 10 16:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu 11.10 to feature Arm support, cloud orchestration - Computerworld .::. Size~: 129.09 KB | Oct 10 16:41 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: OpenLawsuits is going to support ARM | Oct 10 16:41 |
| DaemonFC | if they can secure funding, because Microsoft has no use for Linux on ARM | Oct 10 16:42 |
| schestowitz | What's OpenLawsuit? | Oct 10 16:45 |
| schestowitz | OpenSUSE? | Oct 10 16:45 |
| schestowitz | Because it's already called SueMe Linux or OpenBallnux | Oct 10 16:46 |
| schestowitz | IIRc, WAFAA is working a bit on the ARM PR | Oct 10 16:46 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #KDE Releases Plasma Active One User Experience http://ur1.ca/5cz1r | Oct 10 17:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] KDE Releases Plasma Active One User Experience .::. Size~: 17.26 KB | Oct 10 17:00 |
| DaemonFC | OpenSuse ARM vaporware | Oct 10 17:00 |
| DaemonFC | but why? | Oct 10 17:01 |
| DaemonFC | does AttachMate really want it for some reason or are they announcing something they never intend to do? | Oct 10 17:01 |
| DaemonFC | or are there elements of the OpenSuse project that really want it and are trying to stay relevant? | Oct 10 17:02 |
| MinceR | perhaps some project members are entertaining delusions of not being an extension of m$'s will | Oct 10 17:02 |
| MinceR | or this somehow ties into the vista8 on ARM thing | Oct 10 17:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Bristol City Council all clear for open source - The H Open Source #flossfiles #uk #GCHQ #ms #dirtytricks http://goo.gl/wGRzb | Oct 10 17:06 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bristol City Council all clear for open source - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 39.21 KB | Oct 10 17:06 |
| schestowitz | http://www.prwatch.org/news/2011/10/11034/local-food-ordinances-maine-california | Oct 10 17:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Local Food Ordinances from Maine to California | Center for Media and Democracy .::. Size~: 58.83 KB | Oct 10 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | Food Safety and Modernization Act? | Oct 10 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | let me guess, it consolidates even more power into Monsanto and a handful of big food processing companies | Oct 10 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | and makes the food supply in more risk of contamination | Oct 10 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 17:14 |
| schestowitz | No no.. | Oct 10 17:15 |
| schestowitz | Food Safety and Modernization | Oct 10 17:15 |
| schestowitz | It's a good thing | Oct 10 17:15 |
| schestowitz | Be a PATRIOR | Oct 10 17:15 |
| schestowitz | America Invents | Oct 10 17:15 |
| schestowitz | Remember this: | Oct 10 17:15 |
| schestowitz | With Acts you need to invest their name | Oct 10 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | another windfall for patent lawyers | Oct 10 17:15 |
| schestowitz | Food Safety and Modernization=FInancial Safety for Food Monopolies and Monopolisation | Oct 10 17:16 |
| schestowitz | *invert their names | Oct 10 17:16 |
| schestowitz | How about the PEDOPHILE Act? | Oct 10 17:16 |
| schestowitz | If that existed, it would probably be something that helps p[edophiles | Oct 10 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | http://slashdot.org/poll/2252/id-like-to-see-yahoo- | Oct 10 17:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Slashdot Poll | I'd like to see Yahoo ... ... .::. Size~: 111.32 KB | Oct 10 17:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] EU Approves Microsoft's Purchase of Skype http://ur1.ca/5cz5x | Oct 10 17:17 | |
| DaemonFC | I voted for the Alderaan option | Oct 10 17:17 |
| schestowitz | I'd like not to see Yahoo | Oct 10 17:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: EU Approves Microsoft’s Purchase of Skype .::. Size~: 29.15 KB | Oct 10 17:17 |
| schestowitz | I wasted 3.5 years of my life watching it bullied by Microsoft | Oct 10 17:17 |
| schestowitz | it's hurtful to watch | Oct 10 17:17 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft is a corript organisatrion | Oct 10 17:17 |
| schestowitz | And in Yahoo I had some stuff of mine | Oct 10 17:17 |
| schestowitz | Many people did, flickr for example | Oct 10 17:18 |
| schestowitz | MSFlickr | Oct 10 17:18 |
| schestowitz | Imagine that | Oct 10 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | I used Yahoo for a long time | Oct 10 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | back when they more more creative than they are now | Oct 10 17:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] That is what I like !floss fifth columnists getting into a position to influence others. | Oct 10 17:21 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: You did know about firefox-kde support and oxygen-kde right? | Oct 10 17:22 |
| DaemonFC | it makes Firefox into something that resembles a KDE program | Oct 10 17:22 |
| schestowitz | yes, I know | Oct 10 17:22 |
| DaemonFC | *firefox-kde-support | Oct 10 17:22 |
| DaemonFC | for some reason I can't stand anything using GTK file dialogs | Oct 10 17:22 |
| DaemonFC | probably just because of muscle memory | Oct 10 17:22 |
| *DaemonFC is listening to It's On! by Korn on Follow The Leader [Amarok] | Oct 10 17:27 | |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/10/10/129256/amazon-pushes-for-national-internet-sales-tax | Oct 10 17:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Amazon Pushes For National Internet Sales Tax - Slashdot .::. Size~: 143.58 KB | Oct 10 17:29 |
| schestowitz | Re: Must Read!!!!!! (Spying!!!!) | Oct 10 17:35 |
| schestowitz | > Hi friend! | Oct 10 17:35 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 10 17:35 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/german-government-accused-of-spying-on-citizens-with-state-sponsored-trojan/4044 | Oct 10 17:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: German government accused of spying on citizens with state-sponsored Trojan | ZDNet .::. Size~: 122.7 KB | Oct 10 17:35 |
| *DaemonFC is listening to Got The Life by Korn on Follow The Leader [Amarok] | Oct 10 17:36 | |
| DaemonFC | too much coffee | Oct 10 17:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Chaos Computer Club Analyses German Federal Malware http://ur1.ca/5czba | Oct 10 17:37 | |
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| DaemonFC | I don't know why there's so much Banshee hype | Oct 10 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | it does less than Amarok and depends on Mono | Oct 10 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | what is there to love really? | Oct 10 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | I might break down and use it if it did something really useful | Oct 10 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | but it just doesn't | Oct 10 17:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why the government in #Germany likes proprietary software http://is.gd/34wuAT spying as a feature | Oct 10 17:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Proprietary software is good for some *companies*. More profits, more control over the state. But it's not good for actual *people*. | Oct 10 17:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting application/pdf type | Oct 10 17:39 |
| schestowitz | hmmm.. | Oct 10 17:39 |
| schestowitz | reknq has no inline spellchecking | Oct 10 17:39 |
| *DaemonFC is listening to Dead Bodies Everywhere by Korn on Follow The Leader [Amarok] | Oct 10 17:40 | |
| DaemonFC | nope, it doesn't | Oct 10 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | yet | Oct 10 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | it's on the to do list | Oct 10 17:40 |
| schestowitz | Those who conveniently ignore the relationship between software and freedom just won't understand what causes corruption. | Oct 10 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | it's still rough around the edges even on 0.8 | Oct 10 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | but it's going to be so good by the time a 1.0 is out | Oct 10 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure I'll uninstall Firefox by then | Oct 10 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | I think inline spell checking is a small sacrifice for rendering actual websites | Oct 10 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | even if it would never be implemented | Oct 10 17:42 |
| schestowitz | I remember when FF was young and didn't have spellchecking | Oct 10 17:42 |
| schestowitz | Without plugins | Oct 10 17:42 |
| schestowitz | Not in Linux | Oct 10 17:42 |
| schestowitz | So I'd have a text editor open | Oct 10 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Yes, Mozilla Suite didn't have spell check for a while | Oct 10 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | I managed to pry a proprietary one from Netscape | Oct 10 17:42 |
| schestowitz | then paste my comments there, before putting that in the browser | Oct 10 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | and use it in Mozilla | Oct 10 17:42 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84516591 | Oct 10 17:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 10-Oct-11 16:18:51 UTC - Identi.ca: "Occupy" Movement Comes to Madison, Wisconsin http://is.gd/DI26lr taking one's state back from companies that stole it | Oct 10 17:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: "Occupy" Movement Comes to Madison, Wisconsin | Center for Media and Democracy .::. Size~: 44.89 KB | Oct 10 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: if the free software implementation doesn't work I'll fall back to a proprietary one that does | Oct 10 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | I admit I used proprietary drivers and tons of other stuff | Oct 10 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | but there's little reason to now | Oct 10 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | I load Catalyst now and then for giggles, just to see if they fixed anything | Oct 10 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | usually there's new bugs and it gets uninstalled right away again | Oct 10 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | for several months in a row they put some work into their proprietary Linux driver, and then they stopped and it's getting worse again | Oct 10 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | time to get off that roller coaster | Oct 10 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | in the mean time, the open source alternative was steadily improving | Oct 10 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | still is | Oct 10 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | it's still better than it was a couple years ago, you can ZOMG resize a window without freezing the compositor up and making it drop to 1-2 fps until you let go | Oct 10 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | but their proprietary driver is still quite bad | Oct 10 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | it just went from horrible to bad | Oct 10 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | that seems to be the way of proprietary software | Oct 10 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | they only concentrate on improving it when they can't let it get any worse | Oct 10 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | and then they let it go again | Oct 10 17:48 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.arirang.co.kr/News/News_View.asp?nseq=121263&code=Ne2&category=2 | Oct 10 17:50 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 10 17:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Arirang | Korea for the World, The World for Korea - Arirang.co.kr .::. Size~: 36.71 KB | Oct 10 17:50 |
| schestowitz | > QUOTE:- | Oct 10 17:50 |
| schestowitz | > Updated : October 8, 2011 | Oct 10 17:50 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 10 17:50 |
| schestowitz | > Samsung Beats Apple, Tops Global Smartphone Sales | Oct 10 17:50 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 10 17:50 |
| schestowitz | > Korea's Samsung Electronics has for the first time topped global smartphone | Oct 10 17:50 |
| schestowitz | > sales. | Oct 10 17:50 |
| schestowitz | > Samsung's sales totalled 28 million units in the third quarter of this year, | Oct 10 17:50 |
| schestowitz | > which is up 42 percent compared to the previous quarter, while Apple's | Oct 10 17:50 |
| schestowitz | > iPhone sales dropped by 17 percent. | Oct 10 17:50 |
| schestowitz | > This is the first time Samsung has topped Apple in terms of smartphone sales | Oct 10 17:50 |
| schestowitz | > since iPhone was first launched in 2007. | Oct 10 17:50 |
| schestowitz | > Samsung's Galaxy S2 is leading the company's sales, with 10 million units | Oct 10 17:50 |
| schestowitz | > sold within five months of being released into the market. | Oct 10 17:50 |
| schestowitz | > The cell phone industry is now paying attention to whether Samsung will beat | Oct 10 17:50 |
| schestowitz | > Finland's Nokia, which has been standing at the top of all cell phone sales | Oct 10 17:50 |
| schestowitz | > for the past 12 years. | Oct 10 17:50 |
| schestowitz | > With the growing smartphone market, experts expect Samsung to outsell Nokia | Oct 10 17:50 |
| schestowitz | > in terms of unit sales in the near future. | Oct 10 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: They're selling pet insurance at the grocery store now | Oct 10 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | you get 5% off for having a customer card from the grocery store | Oct 10 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder how this is supposed to work | Oct 10 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | like health insurance for humans, where you pay and pay and then when you get sick, they find an excuse not to cover it? | Oct 10 17:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] NuFormer 3D Video Mapping Projection on Buildings - YouTube #scitek http://ur1.ca/5czgk | Oct 10 17:55 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: similar here | Oct 10 17:57 |
| schestowitz | at tesco they also sell loans alongside chewing gun and condoms | Oct 10 17:57 |
| schestowitz | *gum | Oct 10 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: but the same grocery store sells prepaid cell phones with Android :) | Oct 10 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | Linux at the grocery store :) | Oct 10 17:57 |
| schestowitz | "I'll have one mortgage, two bottles of wine, and a tampon" | Oct 10 17:58 |
| schestowitz | Tesco. Every little helps.. | Oct 10 17:58 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: phones would make sense | Oct 10 17:58 |
| schestowitz | they become like toys now, cheap too with contracts | Oct 10 17:58 |
| schestowitz | Apple is the $1000 vibrator | Oct 10 17:59 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Oct 10 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | the iMGONNA***? :> | Oct 10 17:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Good afternoon !Identiverse !tzag | Oct 10 18:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellog2/@kernellog2] Linux 3.1 approaches http://t.co/rnBFqqEC #linux #kernel #inbrief #xorg #stable | Oct 10 18:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 10 18:05 |
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| iophk | Microsoft can't do ARM. | Oct 10 18:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Thanks... the one i heard of was called Cyanagen. It's great to have choices :) | Oct 10 18:08 | |
| schestowitz | "Ach, du hast ja auf ein PDF verlinkt. Der Chromium mag das nicht: > "Dateien dieses Typs können Schäden an Ihrem Computer verursachen." #ironic " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/595081 | Oct 10 18:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 10 18:23 |
| msb | Does any company sell a computer with both Windows and Linux on it, for dual-boot? | Oct 10 18:25 |
| msb | Snit says MS does not prevent this anymore, but can't prove it (except there are a couple of tablets with Windows and Android). | Oct 10 18:26 |
| msb | I called Dell and they said no, but don't know why. | Oct 10 18:26 |
| iophk | AFAIK Windows licensing does not allow dual boot. Technically it messes with the bootloader. Licensewise, it can't be used to install second systems. Just a guess. | Oct 10 18:27 |
| msb | iophk: That was certainly true in the past, but Snit says it isn't true now. | Oct 10 18:27 |
| msb | BTW, why is he allowed in this channel? | Oct 10 18:27 |
| iophk | What makes you so sure he's a reliable source? | Oct 10 18:27 |
| schestowitz | he ban-evaded | Oct 10 18:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF supports release of Egyptian blogger Maikel Nabil Sanad https://eff.org/r.2D5 | Oct 10 18:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] As for the acidity; Stallman's post was actually a backhanded compliment; he admits Jobs effectiveness is *why* he is happy he's gone | Oct 10 18:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: EFF Supports Release of Egyptian Blogger Maikel Nabil Sanad | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 27.81 KB | Oct 10 18:28 |
| schestowitz | and threw a fit when banned again | Oct 10 18:28 |
| msb | I don't think he is. I think he's a liar. | Oct 10 18:28 |
| schestowitz | he should go back to the sychiatrist | Oct 10 18:28 |
| schestowitz | ps | Oct 10 18:28 |
| schestowitz | msb: don't feed him | Oct 10 18:28 |
| schestowitz | that cretin is not worth IRC time | Oct 10 18:29 |
| schestowitz | let's talk about real issues | Oct 10 18:29 |
| iophk | To set up a system dual boot, you'd have to either install Windows then Linux or else do nasty tricks to rescue the boot loader. | Oct 10 18:29 |
| msb | schestowitz: Well, as you've seen, I've been talking on COLA about the anti-Linux posters working for Microsoft. It makes them very angry. 8^) | Oct 10 18:30 |
| iophk | I don't see a reason to dual boot. VirtualBox is enough for most needs, WINE covers most of the rest, or vice versa. | Oct 10 18:30 |
| iophk | msb: What's COLA? | Oct 10 18:31 |
| msb | iophk: I know. I have no interest in Windows -- haven't used it for 10 years. But I want to know if Microsoft still forbids sale of computers with windows and linux both on them. | Oct 10 18:31 |
| msb | iophk: comp.os.linux.advocacy Usenet newsgroup | Oct 10 18:32 |
| iophk | Ok. | Oct 10 18:32 |
| msb | Roy posts news there. | Oct 10 18:32 |
| msb | Its full of very nasty Microsoft propandists, Snit being one. | Oct 10 18:32 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] TeK - Lei da cópia privada avança em março - #MAFIAA #PT | a palhaçada prossegue. http://goo.gl/p4vNS | Oct 10 18:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Panic of the Plutocrats http://identi.ca/url/54053683 | Oct 10 18:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @eff EFF supports release of Egyptian blogger Maikel Nabil Sanad https://eff.org/r.2D5 | Oct 10 18:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Wall Street Spirit http://identi.ca/url/54053684 | Oct 10 18:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: TeK > Notícias > Internet > Lei da cópia privada avança em março .::. Size~: 44.04 KB | Oct 10 18:33 |
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| msb | See: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/topics | Oct 10 18:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Discussions - comp.os.linux.advocacy | Google Groups .::. Size~: 62.57 KB | Oct 10 18:33 |
| iophk | I think Microsoft still forbids sale of computers either with non-WIndow systems either solo or dual boot. The exception so far has been Apple. But from what I gather there is collaboration of some kind, holding back ODF and such. | Oct 10 18:33 |
| msb | Its full of very nasty Microsoft propagandists, Snit being one. | Oct 10 18:33 |
| iophk | msb: thanks. I understand | Oct 10 18:34 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good evening @sandersch | Oct 10 18:34 | |
| DaemonFC | http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2011/10/10/featherweight-and-plugin-installation-improves-plus-important-fixes | Oct 10 18:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Opera Desktop Team - Featherweight and plugin installation improves, plus important fixes .::. Size~: 64.83 KB | Oct 10 18:35 |
| cubezzz | did some more research into non-windows laptops yesterday | Oct 10 18:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] What we don't understand about the speed of light http://identi.ca/url/54053710 !science | Oct 10 18:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: What we don’t understand about the speed of light – Boing Boing .::. Size~: 25.35 KB | Oct 10 18:36 |
| iophk | cubezzz: which ones are available? | Oct 10 18:36 |
| msb | cubezzz: What did you find? | Oct 10 18:36 |
| cubezzz | the situation hasn't improved much :-/ | Oct 10 18:36 |
| iophk | actual laptops or netbooks, too? | Oct 10 18:36 |
| cubezzz | ASUS is selling EEE PC 900A netbooks with linux | Oct 10 18:37 |
| cubezzz | and the Eeebox | Oct 10 18:37 |
| cubezzz | that's a desktop though | Oct 10 18:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Bailout - Top economist Hussman: How bank bailouts are destroying our standard of living #bankingsystem #crooks http://goo.gl/fPQ0Q | Oct 10 18:38 | |
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| iophk | 900a seems small, it's 9 inches or so, right? | Oct 10 18:38 |
| cubezzz | 8.9" yeah | Oct 10 18:39 |
| msb | and no disk -- just semiconductor | Oct 10 18:39 |
| msb | ? | Oct 10 18:39 |
| cubezzz | let me recheck that | Oct 10 18:39 |
| iophk | For regular work around 15" is best. 17" is nice, but too big for a laptop. That's like carrying around a coffee table. | Oct 10 18:39 |
| cubezzz | msb, yes it's ssd | Oct 10 18:40 |
| cubezzz | 4GB | Oct 10 18:40 |
| msb | I never go out. I love my 27" LED-backed monitor! | Oct 10 18:40 |
| cubezzz | I have a 19" CRT I use still | Oct 10 18:40 |
| msb | I had a 16" crt, but it died. LCD panels are much lighter in large sizes. | Oct 10 18:41 |
| cubezzz | I can report Acer Aspire 5534 works very well with Fedora 14 | Oct 10 18:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @carlopiana Question: why are ("traditional", incumbent) Telcos happy that Microsoft buys Skype? Think about it and look at your bi h ... | Oct 10 18:41 | |
| cubezzz | pcworld of all places had a good article on Linux laptops | Oct 10 18:41 |
| msb | LInux is getting more popular -- better known. | Oct 10 18:42 |
| iophk | Maybe CMP or some other will shut them down for not toeing the line. ;) | Oct 10 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/7495/snapshot3b.png | Oct 10 18:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Oct 10 18:43 |
| msb | Desktop/laptop Linux with many virtual desktops is the only way to go for a multi-tasking power-user. | Oct 10 18:43 |
| cubezzz | actually PCWorld had a few good articles on Linux computers | Oct 10 18:43 |
| iophk | 1920x1080, nice | Oct 10 18:44 |
| msb | Yep. | Oct 10 18:45 |
| cubezzz | looks like Dell is pushing Novell SUSE | Oct 10 18:45 |
| cubezzz | but also Redhat | Oct 10 18:46 |
| msb | Dell told me they sell Ubuntu on PCs and Redhat on servers. | Oct 10 18:47 |
| msb | Not Suse. | Oct 10 18:47 |
| iophk | How about on laptops and desktops? | Oct 10 18:47 |
| msb | But I use Suse. (sshh -- Don't tell Roy) | Oct 10 18:47 |
| cubezzz | there's the Vostro line... | Oct 10 18:47 |
| cubezzz | but just try to find one | Oct 10 18:47 |
| msb | iophk: That's what I meant by PCs -- laptops and desktops -- Dell sells them with Ubuntu. | Oct 10 18:48 |
| DaemonFC | http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/8750/snapshot4qi.png | Oct 10 18:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Oct 10 18:48 |
| cubezzz | ASUS seems the most Linux oriented these days | Oct 10 18:49 |
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| msb | http://duckduckgo.com/tech.html | Oct 10 18:51 |
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| msb | cubezzz: I've always used ASUS mobos. | Oct 10 18:51 |
| iophk | msb: looking at Dell's website, it is possible only to choose from 3 types of MS Windows, no Ubuntu. | Oct 10 18:51 |
| iophk | That's even if I go to www.dell.com/ubuntu | Oct 10 18:52 |
| cubezzz | at Dell, you click on a Vostro Linux box and you get "discontinued" and "Dell recommends windows 7" | Oct 10 18:52 |
| msb | iophk: the search box doesn't even work on Dell's website. | Oct 10 18:52 |
| cubezzz | so Dell basically sucks | Oct 10 18:52 |
| msb | fer shure | Oct 10 18:52 |
| _Goblin | msb....duckduckgo...mmmmm | Oct 10 18:53 |
| iophk | http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://configure.us.dell.com | Oct 10 18:53 |
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| iophk | That's why... | Oct 10 18:53 |
| msb | I would never buy one, I build my own -- cabinet + mobo + cpu + ram + disk(s) | Oct 10 18:53 |
| iophk | the search does not work... | Oct 10 18:53 |
| cubezzz | msb, sure but there's still laptops to consider | Oct 10 18:53 |
| _Goblin | duckduck go.....the search engine which advocates private searching doesn't pass on your info....great stuff.... | Oct 10 18:54 |
| _Goblin | except.... | Oct 10 18:54 |
| msb | cubezzz: true. Especially if I want to watch a movie in bed. | Oct 10 18:54 |
| _Goblin | it uses Google for its image search... | Oct 10 18:54 |
| _Goblin | and bing | Oct 10 18:54 |
| _Goblin | .....so the mantra is.... "We don't invade your privacy, but we'll rely on using services of people that do" | Oct 10 18:54 |
| _Goblin | thats one duck which would be better served on a plate with some roast potatoes rather than on my browser. | Oct 10 18:55 |
| msb | There's no privacy on the Net. The govt can always track you down. | Oct 10 18:56 |
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| DaemonFC | [13:52] <ApacheAllo> Anybody have $30 dollars to exchange? | Oct 10 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | [13:54] <DaemonFC> I normally charge more | Oct 10 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Oct 10 19:00 |
| _Goblin | msb: not without court order. | Oct 10 19:00 |
| _Goblin | msb: and also with a great deal of difficulty. | Oct 10 19:00 |
| _Goblin | msb: theres no in-house "expertise" anymore.. | Oct 10 19:00 |
| _Goblin | msb: outsourcing is the buzz word. | Oct 10 19:00 |
| msb | Thanks to the 9-11 scam and the phony "terrorist" scare, the US govt can do whatever it wants. No warrant or (in the case of bombing or invading other countries) no congressional approval needed. | Oct 10 19:02 |
| _Goblin | the problem is..(as I see it) | Oct 10 19:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] as i say, @gomerx, i know my limits. i can spot what's left out of a story, not whats left out of code | Oct 10 19:03 | |
| cubezzz | things went to hell after Commodore died | Oct 10 19:03 |
| _Goblin | Government roles are badly paid....for a tech expert they can earn far more working in the private sector.....appart from the stability offered by government jobs (for the most part) it would only be the average skilled worker that would ever consider a tech role within the government. | Oct 10 19:03 |
| _Goblin | ...thats if they had in-house at all. | Oct 10 19:03 |
| _Goblin | msb: I can't speak for the US...however 9-11 scam? | Oct 10 19:04 |
| msb | Yup. The towers were demolished by explosives, not the jet fuel fire. | Oct 10 19:05 |
| _Goblin | right. | Oct 10 19:05 |
| _Goblin | and this was the government was it? | Oct 10 19:05 |
| schestowitz | the planes were just "Relish"? :-) | Oct 10 19:05 |
| schestowitz | "special effects" | Oct 10 19:05 |
| _Goblin | ah | Oct 10 19:06 |
| schestowitz | for drama :-) | Oct 10 19:06 |
| _Goblin | right... | Oct 10 19:06 |
| msb | We don't know who did it, except that building security had a Bush on its board. | Oct 10 19:06 |
| schestowitz | they should have also throws a bridge in | Oct 10 19:06 |
| schestowitz | *thrown | Oct 10 19:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] cartoon ducks especially. | Oct 10 19:06 | |
| _Goblin | msb: so you are saying the building were intentionally brought down in order to facilitate what exactly? | Oct 10 19:06 |
| schestowitz | msb: if they wanted to demoluisha building, they could come up with a better story blaming terrorists | Oct 10 19:07 |
| msb | There was a huge amount of thermite used to melt the support columns below ground level. Lots of thermite particles were found in the dust. | Oct 10 19:07 |
| _Goblin | right... | Oct 10 19:07 |
| _Goblin | and this conspiracy must have involved a number of people surely? | Oct 10 19:07 |
| schestowitz | below groujnd level? Some of the "truth" people say at the top floors. This is not even consistent. | Oct 10 19:07 |
| schestowitz | They couldn't show any sign of explosives | Oct 10 19:08 |
| msb | _Goblin: In order to facilitate conversion to a police state. | Oct 10 19:08 |
| schestowitz | so they take the claims underground | Oct 10 19:08 |
| _Goblin | right... | Oct 10 19:08 |
| _Goblin | msb: any they couldn't have done that with a few suitcase devices on the underground? | Oct 10 19:08 |
| schestowitz | msb: and I'll tell you why it makees no sense | Oct 10 19:08 |
| schestowitz | watch the fall | Oct 10 19:08 |
| _Goblin | msb: or attack a residential tower? | Oct 10 19:08 |
| msb | The towers collapsed from the top down. | Oct 10 19:09 |
| schestowitz | if it was undeground, the collapse would be different, with the top floors not collapsing onto those below them | Oct 10 19:09 |
| _Goblin | msb: making people feel unsafe in transport hubs or worse in their homes inflicts far more "terror" | Oct 10 19:09 |
| schestowitz | but more like a slide from the bottom | Oct 10 19:09 |
| schestowitz | but it's clearly not the case | Oct 10 19:09 |
| msb | So they were not blown up by bombs underneath them. | Oct 10 19:09 |
| schestowitz | the fuel softened the steel | Oct 10 19:09 |
| schestowitz | it doesn't need to melt it | Oct 10 19:09 |
| schestowitz | just to star the chain reaction by getting too soft at high termeratu | Oct 10 19:09 |
| _Goblin | msb: and of all these people that would have needed to be involved to pull this thing off, not one person has blown the whistle? And its taken the posts of blogs/commenters on the net to expose what nobody else could? | Oct 10 19:09 |
| schestowitz | than the floors above the plane start falling onto it, collecting very heavy debris and starting the chain reaction | Oct 10 19:10 |
| msb | I'm pretty sure that no other steel-frame building has collapsed from fire. | Oct 10 19:10 |
| _Goblin | what about 7-7 was that a scam too? | Oct 10 19:10 |
| msb | _Goblin: yes. | Oct 10 19:10 |
| _Goblin | right. | Oct 10 19:10 |
| _Goblin | I was there btw | Oct 10 19:10 |
| cubezzz | ok, what was 7-7 again? | Oct 10 19:10 |
| _Goblin | edgware road | Oct 10 19:10 |
| msb | The bombs could only have been placed in the service yard(s), which were guarded. | Oct 10 19:11 |
| _Goblin | msb: sorry, what are your qualifications for these statements? | Oct 10 19:11 |
| msb | These were in trains or buses iirc? | Oct 10 19:11 |
| _Goblin | msb: or even experience. | Oct 10 19:11 |
| _Goblin | and I'd still like to know how not one person has exposed these "scams" | Oct 10 19:12 |
| msb | _Goblin: The thermite particles were found in samples of the dust that blanketed lower Manhattan. There's a very thorough scientific paper published on the analysis. | Oct 10 19:12 |
| *schestowitz recalls when ender started smearing me and the channels for not accepting 7/7 as a government plot | Oct 10 19:12 | |
| _Goblin | msb: im sure there is....and not one country is challenging this? | Oct 10 19:12 |
| _Goblin | msb: us Brits are not turning around and saying hang on a minute... | Oct 10 19:13 |
| _Goblin | or the germans | Oct 10 19:13 |
| _Goblin | or french | Oct 10 19:13 |
| _Goblin | not one government seems to mind? | Oct 10 19:13 |
| _Goblin | and nobody involved has blown the whistle? | Oct 10 19:13 |
| msb | Many thousands of people work for the CIA, but only about 4 have ever written about its secret operations. One had to flee to Cuba. | Oct 10 19:13 |
| _Goblin | and I read a "secret" report that in Area 51 they have an alien claiming to be Jesus and the creator of mankind | Oct 10 19:13 |
| _Goblin | what I think is more likely.... | Oct 10 19:14 |
| schestowitz | The Soviets will fret | Oct 10 19:14 |
| msb | The US, British, and Israeli govts are pretty much in cahoots on 911, "terrorism", police states, attacks on Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Libya, etc. | Oct 10 19:14 |
| schestowitz | government lies bite then back... about alien technology | Oct 10 19:14 |
| _Goblin | Events were not staged, however governments used the events to further agenda's that they had. | Oct 10 19:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] voted for "Yes" | Oct 10 19:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] voted for "Agree" | Oct 10 19:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @diegales Richard Stallman on why we must go on the streets on October 15th http://ur1.ca/5bhf5 !gnu !15october !occupywallstreet !15 ... | Oct 10 19:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Why the government in #Germany likes proprietary software http://is.gd/34wuAT spying as a feature | Oct 10 19:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] lol | Oct 10 19:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Richard Stallman tell us the reason for taking to the streets on October 15th. http://is.gd/UqTJMO #my15oct | Oct 10 19:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz #OpenSUSE Wants Donations, Loses Volunteers Force http://ur1.ca/5cgjm #suse #gnu #linux | Oct 10 19:14 | |
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| schestowitz | _Goblin: casual versus circumstantial | Oct 10 19:15 |
| schestowitz | when Microsoft is attacking Linux with patents, I have more to write about | Oct 10 19:15 |
| schestowitz | It doesn't mean I tell Microsoft to sue Linux | Oct 10 19:15 |
| _Goblin | I'd say in reference to 911 the great scam is that its been used by numerous governments to justify new laws or a more agressive use of existing ones.... | Oct 10 19:17 |
| _Goblin | we saw the same for the riots in london.... | Oct 10 19:17 |
| msb | It's hard to believe that elements of the US govt would destroy the WTC and kill 3000 people. | Oct 10 19:17 |
| _Goblin | its a little like the government anouncing bad news on the day of a natural disaster....it gets people on the backfoot. | Oct 10 19:17 |
| msb | But it certainly invaded Iraq and Afghanistan and killed 2,000,000 people. | Oct 10 19:17 |
| _Goblin | msb: and that we agree completely. | Oct 10 19:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz #RedHat Makes Billions With #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/5ce65 | Oct 10 19:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] eBay + Paypal + Magento = X visit x.com | Oct 10 19:18 | |
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| msb | Also, the Gulf of Tonkin Incident, used to justify attacking Vietnam, was a lie. | Oct 10 19:18 |
| _Goblin | msb: well it had been to iraq before.... | Oct 10 19:18 |
| schestowitz | There were known fakes before the Gulf War too | Oct 10 19:19 |
| schestowitz | But for these we have evidence | Oct 10 19:19 |
| _Goblin | and as for afgan....you were best mates only a few years ago....you even made a film about it.... | Oct 10 19:19 |
| schestowitz | There is no quality evidence to tie 9;/11 to a government plan | Oct 10 19:19 |
| schestowitz | there are micro-bits of observations | Oct 10 19:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] RT @schestowitz #RedHat Makes Billions With #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/5ce65 | Oct 10 19:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] RT @schestowitz Richard Stallman tell us the reason for taking to the streets on October 15th. http://is.gd/UqTJMO #my15oct | Oct 10 19:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] RT @diegales Richard Stallman on why we must go on the streets on October 15th http://ur1.ca/5bhf5 !gnu !15october !occupywallstreet !15 ... | Oct 10 19:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] RT @schestowitz Proprietary software is good for some *companies*. More profits, more control over the state. But it's not good for actu ... | Oct 10 19:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] RT @glynmoody RT @monkchips ten years later, it seems as if there aren’t any more rich countries. Just a whole lot of rich people monk.l ... | Oct 10 19:19 | |
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| msb | And the attack by North Korea into South, used as justification for the Korean War and the murder of 30% of the N Korean population, was provoked by many attacks by South into North, with American "advisors", which were not reported in the newspapers. | Oct 10 19:20 |
| _Goblin | and you can find those "bits" in any disaster/tragedy | Oct 10 19:20 |
| schestowitz | quality cannot be substituted by quantity of poor shots each of which can be refuted | Oct 10 19:20 |
| schestowitz | and leaves a diarrhoea of small, easy-to-rebut arguments to invalidate | Oct 10 19:20 |
| _Goblin | next people will claim that it was nostradamus that predicted it.....(Twin towers) | Oct 10 19:20 |
| msb | The physical evidence shows that the towers could not have collapsed due to the fire. | Oct 10 19:21 |
| schestowitz | he didn't? | Oct 10 19:21 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: he also made predictions for the next billion years | Oct 10 19:21 |
| msb | The fire was not very hot. It was starved for oxygen, hence the black smoke. | Oct 10 19:21 |
| schestowitz | we just need to find observations in that time period and match them to a vomit of messy text | Oct 10 19:21 |
| schestowitz | the fire was hot | Oct 10 19:21 |
| schestowitz | liquid fuel was reported to have leaked inside too | Oct 10 19:22 |
| msb | Each tower had a huge concrete core which the govt doesn't talk about, but which can be seen in some pictures and videos. | Oct 10 19:22 |
| schestowitz | people with their skin peeling off were seen | Oct 10 19:22 |
| msb | Of course concrete would not melt. | Oct 10 19:22 |
| schestowitz | the thickness of the smoke is a poor indicator of temperature | Oct 10 19:22 |
| schestowitz | We are better off relying on simulators | Oct 10 19:22 |
| msb | Hot for people, not hot for specially hardened steel. | Oct 10 19:22 |
| schestowitz | msb: the core if tied to other parts | Oct 10 19:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Ubuntu 11.10 Is in the Wings: Three Days and Counting http://ur1.ca/5d0c7 #linux #ubuntu | Oct 10 19:23 | |
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| msb | schestowitz: say again please? | Oct 10 19:23 |
| schestowitz | when 10 floors that are connected to it fall in a chain reaction, that core is as good as a leaf | Oct 10 19:23 |
| schestowitz | it would be surprisising if a trunk remained in tact | Oct 10 19:23 |
| schestowitz | it would imply bad engineering cause it's intended to bear the load, not let it loose | Oct 10 19:24 |
| schestowitz | everything is interconnected | Oct 10 19:24 |
| msb | The rate of fall was the same as for a free-falling object in air. THat means that what the rubble was falling on was not presenting any resistance. | Oct 10 19:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Red Hat Is On Track To Become A $1 Billion Company http://ur1.ca/5ce65 #redhat #gnu #linux | Oct 10 19:24 | |
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| msb | Therefore, the towers were blown up sequentially from top to bottom. | Oct 10 19:25 |
| schestowitz | the girders fell in unison because one drags another.. it's a chain reaction like a nuclear explosion... the stress increases the further down you go with more mass | Oct 10 19:25 |
| schestowitz | [19:24] <msb> The rate of fall was the same as for a free-falling object in air. | Oct 10 19:25 |
| schestowitz | It wasn't | Oct 10 19:25 |
| schestowitz | it was slower | Oct 10 19:25 |
| schestowitz | check what gravity value is | Oct 10 19:25 |
| schestowitz | 9.8 | Oct 10 19:25 |
| schestowitz | calculate the height | Oct 10 19:25 |
| schestowitz | watch the real-time video | Oct 10 19:25 |
| schestowitz | >>>>> THat means that what the rubble was falling on was not presenting any resistance. | Oct 10 19:26 |
| schestowitz | Even if that was true, that would in no way substantiate demolition | Oct 10 19:26 |
| schestowitz | What you're suggesting is something altogeher different | Oct 10 19:26 |
| schestowitz | controlled demolitions don't have to be at freefall speed, either | Oct 10 19:26 |
| schestowitz | there's friction | Oct 10 19:27 |
| msb | But this one was. | Oct 10 19:27 |
| schestowitz | it wasn't | Oct 10 19:27 |
| schestowitz | check again | Oct 10 19:27 |
| schestowitz | don't just trust people to tell you | Oct 10 19:27 |
| _Goblin | and the big question being...... | Oct 10 19:27 |
| schestowitz | I can do it with you now | Oct 10 19:27 |
| schestowitz | But some people posted videos just to debunk the freefall speed thing | Oct 10 19:27 |
| schestowitz | and plugged in all the parameters | Oct 10 19:27 |
| _Goblin | why not just stage an explosive device and claim that was planted by evil people? why not simply do that rather than risk exposure on live tv with so many external factors.. | Oct 10 19:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Monday http://ur1.ca/5d0eo | Oct 10 19:28 | |
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| schestowitz | that's what I was implying | Oct 10 19:28 |
| msb | THen they'd have to explain how the evil people got in to plant the explosives. | Oct 10 19:28 |
| _Goblin | easy....guns...hostage situation...same way they held up the plane | Oct 10 19:29 |
| schestowitz | They could do what McVeigh did | Oct 10 19:29 |
| schestowitz | That would have implied it, no? | Oct 10 19:29 |
| schestowitz | simplified | Oct 10 19:29 |
| schestowitz | and then blame the militia/terrorists | Oct 10 19:29 |
| msb | Oh, BTW, the 1993 bombing of the WTC was instigated by the FBI, which supplied the explosives. | Oct 10 19:29 |
| schestowitz | why the planes if your theory is correct? | Oct 10 19:29 |
| msb | The destruction of the towers was blamed on the planes, and the planes were supposedly flown by Arabs. | Oct 10 19:30 |
| _Goblin | the problem is with these theories is that theres always a way the story can be embellished to fit the viewpoint of the storyteller......in some ways its very similar to how the tragic events were used afterwards by the government to do things under normal circumstances they wouldnt. | Oct 10 19:30 |
| schestowitz | yes, you see this after people are assassinated too | Oct 10 19:31 |
| schestowitz | claims that the secret services killed them | Oct 10 19:31 |
| _Goblin | I don't believe 9-11 to be a conspiracy, I think not only is it wrong, but it distracts from the tragic loss of life and the effect it had upon thousands of people. | Oct 10 19:31 |
| schestowitz | it was c conpiracy | Oct 10 19:31 |
| _Goblin | and worse.... | Oct 10 19:31 |
| schestowitz | of anti-Americanists | Oct 10 19:31 |
| _Goblin | after the tragic events, it led to more suffering of innocent people elsewhere in the world | Oct 10 19:32 |
| schestowitz | plannd in Germany, IIRC | Oct 10 19:32 |
| msb | THen where did all the thermite come from? | Oct 10 19:32 |
| _Goblin | msb: nowhere.....because its never been challenged by any other government..... | Oct 10 19:32 |
| schestowitz | where did all the icecream come from? | Oct 10 19:32 |
| schestowitz | It's a loaded question? | Oct 10 19:32 |
| _Goblin | msb: do you think the french would sit by quietly? | Oct 10 19:32 |
| msb | Many tons of it, extrapolating from the amount in the dust and the total quantity of dust. | Oct 10 19:32 |
| schestowitz | When did you stop beating your wife? | Oct 10 19:33 |
| _Goblin | msb: or the Germans? | Oct 10 19:33 |
| _Goblin | msb: or the Italians? | Oct 10 19:33 |
| _Goblin | msb: you think all these people would let it go if there was anything, anything to suggest 9-11 was not what it seemed? | Oct 10 19:33 |
| _Goblin | msb: And on your line....... What about this alien in Area 51 claiming to be Jesus? | Oct 10 19:34 |
| schestowitz | [19:32] <msb> Many tons of it | Oct 10 19:34 |
| schestowitz | where? | Oct 10 19:34 |
| schestowitz | did someone bring a tractor to the rubble and collect a ton of it? | Oct 10 19:34 |
| _Goblin | on a blog | Oct 10 19:34 |
| _Goblin | probably | Oct 10 19:34 |
| msb | Actually some German guy high in the security department seriously questioned the US govt story of 911. | Oct 10 19:34 |
| _Goblin | and I could guess which blog would come up with something like that. | Oct 10 19:34 |
| _Goblin | msb: seriously questioned? And what happened? Like I say, show me the German government challenging this... | Oct 10 19:35 |
| _Goblin | msb: they are not, nobody is.... | Oct 10 19:35 |
| _Goblin | but like I say.... | Oct 10 19:36 |
| _Goblin | What of this Alien in Area 51? - this (like Roy highlights) is the reason why its never debated properly. | Oct 10 19:36 |
| msb | They didn't challenge the JFK assassination, nor the Gulf of Tonkin, nor the Korean War, nor the Gulf War which started because GWH Bush requested Saddam to attack Kuwait. | Oct 10 19:37 |
| msb | GHW Bush | Oct 10 19:37 |
| _Goblin | right...so how does this relate to 9-11? | Oct 10 19:37 |
| _Goblin | and a scam of epic proportions? | Oct 10 19:37 |
| schestowitz | >> GWH Bush requested Saddam to attack Kuwait. | Oct 10 19:38 |
| _Goblin | what of vietnam? was that a scam? | Oct 10 19:38 |
| schestowitz | he didn't afaik | Oct 10 19:38 |
| schestowitz | wikileaks showed that expressed passiveness | Oct 10 19:38 |
| schestowitz | not the same thing | Oct 10 19:38 |
| msb | It relates because all these events involved major lies and scams by the US govt, which are now well-known, and none of the other govts mentioned did anything about them, or even acknowledged the lies. | Oct 10 19:38 |
| _Goblin | see? | Oct 10 19:38 |
| _Goblin | the story becomes more embellished when the flaws are highlighted... | Oct 10 19:38 |
| _Goblin | we have now moved from one theory to another (which again is wild supposition) to merely back up another conspiracy theory. | Oct 10 19:39 |
| msb | The Gulf of Tonkin incident, in which N Vietnam supposedly fired on US ships outside its territorial waters, did not happen. | Oct 10 19:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Watching Futurama the "Unlimited Penguin" episode. Canonical should watch it to remember what a penguin looks like. | Oct 10 19:39 | |
| _Goblin | and I'm sure should the new one be challenged, there will be another moment in history to be exampled with conspiracy | Oct 10 19:39 |
| _Goblin | the titanic maybe | Oct 10 19:40 |
| msb | You asked me why other countries haven't objected. | Oct 10 19:40 |
| _Goblin | or Tunguska | Oct 10 19:40 |
| _Goblin | or maybe even Cliff Richard | Oct 10 19:40 |
| schestowitz | Titanic.. Sunk by the Nazis | Oct 10 19:40 |
| _Goblin | The Iceberg Nazi's? | Oct 10 19:40 |
| schestowitz | thry put ti there BWHAHAHA | Oct 10 19:40 |
| msb | I am saying that other countries certainly have known about these other lies and scams, and they have not objected. | Oct 10 19:40 |
| msb | That means that all those govts are corrupt. | Oct 10 19:41 |
| schestowitz | they travelled in time a bit/.. along with Leo DC | Oct 10 19:41 |
| msb | Which is why they didn't object to the 911 lies and scam. | Oct 10 19:41 |
| _Goblin | in a delorean built by the masons. | Oct 10 19:41 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 10 19:41 |
| MinceR | a brick-and-mortar delorean? | Oct 10 19:42 |
| _Goblin | yep... | Oct 10 19:42 |
| MinceR | that can't be good for fuel economy | Oct 10 19:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[faither/@faither] ♻ @lumks: #Help #KDE e.V. secure funding for a sprint with just a few clicks http://goo.gl/JUVf0 at the moment we are #212 gogogo :) | Oct 10 19:43 | |
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| schestowitz | msb: what are those lies and scams again? | Oct 10 19:44 |
| schestowitz | They needed to issue a better report | Oct 10 19:44 |
| msb | It's a shame that you guys can't think about this stuff seriously. There could be major degradation of our civilization because of it. | Oct 10 19:44 |
| schestowitz | on why they didn't catch the hijackers | Oct 10 19:44 |
| schestowitz | but that's the main 'scam' | Oct 10 19:44 |
| schestowitz | I see this pattern a lot. ender needs to *feel* as though he knows something that others do not know, but in the process he makes stuff up or latches on to BS, which doesn't make him look smart at all | Oct 10 19:45 |
| schestowitz | Just saying 9/11 was more complicated than it is sure gets you attentin | Oct 10 19:45 |
| _Goblin | but of course the counter to us being flippant about such conspracies is - Thats what they want you to believe. | Oct 10 19:45 |
| schestowitz | but it also leads to you being treated not as enlightened but as a "crank" | Oct 10 19:45 |
| _Goblin | or we have brainwashed.... | Oct 10 19:45 |
| _Goblin | or both. | Oct 10 19:45 |
| msb | I don't need this kind of "attention" aka aggravation. | Oct 10 19:46 |
| msb | I should know not to talk about this stuff with you guys. | Oct 10 19:46 |
| schestowitz | because of that, anything you say about Linux the Microdsoft trolls will try to dismiss by association | Oct 10 19:46 |
| schestowitz | not talking about it is not the solution | Oct 10 19:46 |
| msb | They will dismiss it anyhow. | Oct 10 19:46 |
| schestowitz | that makes oneself insular | Oct 10 19:46 |
| schestowitz | echo chamber | Oct 10 19:46 |
| schestowitz | like kids who grow up distant from literature about evolution | Oct 10 19:47 |
| schestowitz | protective from scientific explanations | Oct 10 19:47 |
| msb | I talk about it with other people, who have taken the time to read the info in the 911 research websites. | Oct 10 19:47 |
| cubezzz | let's stick with tech issues | Oct 10 19:47 |
| iophk | cubezzz: +1 | Oct 10 19:47 |
| msb | You folks do very well in exposing Microsoft and other tech freedom issues. | Oct 10 19:48 |
| iophk | Is there any truth to the rumor that Dell systems can be purchased with Linux? | Oct 10 19:48 |
| cubezzz | ha | Oct 10 19:48 |
| iophk | I was not able to find Ubuntu or any other distro on their web site. | Oct 10 19:49 |
| cubezzz | you can probably order by phone, just tell them you won't buy it unless there's linux on it | Oct 10 19:49 |
| msb | I called Dell. They said they sell some laptops/desktops with Ubuntu, and servers with Red Hat. | Oct 10 19:49 |
| iophk | Cool. But did they say how to order them? The web site that I saw, did not have any. | Oct 10 19:50 |
| msb | Call the sales number. | Oct 10 19:50 |
| iophk | Can the order be made over the phone? | Oct 10 19:51 |
| cubezzz | definitely | Oct 10 19:51 |
| cubezzz | I called them a couple of times | Oct 10 19:51 |
| iophk | Well that's some small advancement. Good. | Oct 10 19:51 |
| cubezzz | usually I buy used laptops | Oct 10 19:52 |
| cubezzz | mostly negates the M$ tax | Oct 10 19:52 |
| iophk | How long do they survive as used? I'd figure the components were already half worn out. | Oct 10 19:52 |
| cubezzz | well... my amiga 500 and hard drive still work | Oct 10 19:53 |
| cubezzz | that's 24 years | Oct 10 19:53 |
| cubezzz | I think the panasonic toughbook is 2001 | Oct 10 19:53 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: Do you ever hang out around Manchester? | Oct 10 19:54 |
| schestowitz | I might come down soon, not sure when exactly | Oct 10 19:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] ♻ @lumks: #Help #KDE e.V. secure funding for a sprint with just a few clicks http://goo.gl/JUVf0 at the moment we are #212 gogogo :) !EOL | Oct 10 19:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] http://ur1.ca/5cwol !techbytes episode 63 | Oct 10 19:54 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: life at the end of the universe » Help KDE e.V. secure funding for a sprint with just a few clicks .::. Size~: 33.77 KB | Oct 10 19:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: TechBytes Episode 63: Enter KDE | Techrights .::. Size~: 108.39 KB | Oct 10 19:54 |
| *iophk has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | Oct 10 19:55 | |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: I have on occasion....Ive cousins in chester | Oct 10 19:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Clonar, criar Imagens, efectuar Backups (cópia de segurança) e recuperar ficheiros « Debian Dicas #floss #tips http://goo.gl/4aAQQ | Oct 10 19:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Today's !InconstantMoon chapter posted http://ur1.ca/5d0n3 (spoiler alert...do *not* start reading with this one, start http://ur1.ca/3c4fi) | Oct 10 19:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Clonar, criar Imagens, efectuar Backups (cópia de segurança) e recuperar ficheiros « Debian Dicas .::. Size~: 28.59 KB | Oct 10 19:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Inconstant Moon – 135 .::. Size~: 20.34 KB | Oct 10 19:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ur1 Generator .::. Size~: 2.26 KB | Oct 10 19:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Damn I turned over because of the adverts at half time and got distracted, I will catch it again. | Oct 10 19:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] Help #KDE get 1000€ for a developer sprint, with just a few clicks! http://ur1.ca/5cxzb | Oct 10 20:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Children to be banned from blowing up balloons, under EU safety rules - http://tgr.ph/ptMBV9 oh, come on, people (v @akaSassinak) #bonkers | Oct 10 20:09 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: life at the end of the universe » Help KDE e.V. secure funding for a sprint with just a few clicks .::. Size~: 33.77 KB | Oct 10 20:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Children to be banned from blowing up balloons, under EU safety rules - Telegraph .::. Size~: 65.28 KB | Oct 10 20:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] that was a great ep.... | Oct 10 20:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "If someone thinks that love and peace is a cliche ... that's his problem. Love and peace are eternal." ~ John Lennon !q | Oct 10 20:18 | |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: cool! | Oct 10 20:20 |
| _Goblin | It seems my views on Unity are starting to come true.... | Oct 10 20:20 |
| _Goblin | and it seems that as I said before, every decision Canonical has made has proved worthwhile (even though at the time it recieved a slew of attacks) | Oct 10 20:21 |
| _Goblin | Here's another happy Unity user - "I'm actually really starting to like Unity, now I've been working with it for a while" | Oct 10 20:21 |
| schestowitz | yes, it's ok | Oct 10 20:21 |
| schestowitz | someone who works for me like it | Oct 10 20:21 |
| schestowitz | he has used Linux onyl for a few years | Oct 10 20:22 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu\ | Oct 10 20:22 |
| schestowitz | That's the one I mentioned | Oct 10 20:22 |
| schestowitz | Everyone else I know mocks Unity | Oct 10 20:22 |
| _Goblin | as I said when I first looked at it, Canonicals vision of Unity was far better than that of Gnome-shell | Oct 10 20:22 |
| schestowitz | BTW, regarding the business, don't worry about scale at the moment, it's me who pays for much of it. I am trying to further establish my own business with several employees. I don't mind running at a loss (to me). | Oct 10 20:22 |
| _Goblin | and now we see extensions for Gnome-shell which revert functionality back to more of what 2 series was like. | Oct 10 20:22 |
| schestowitz | [if anyone ever looks for some computer-related stuff, contact me, I have some clients] | Oct 10 20:22 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: yes | Oct 10 20:23 |
| schestowitz | same form gnome3 | Oct 10 20:23 |
| schestowitz | and kde4 | Oct 10 20:23 |
| schestowitz | 4.0 didn't have what you see now | Oct 10 20:23 |
| schestowitz | It lacked some options | Oct 10 20:23 |
| _Goblin | im running 4.6.5 | Oct 10 20:23 |
| schestowitz | very rudimentary | Oct 10 20:23 |
| schestowitz | I tried 4.1 | Oct 10 20:23 |
| _Goblin | I think | Oct 10 20:23 |
| schestowitz | nevr tried 4.9 | Oct 10 20:23 |
| schestowitz | 4.0 | Oct 10 20:23 |
| schestowitz | on Fedora | Oct 10 20:23 |
| schestowitz | .1 was ok-ish | Oct 10 20:23 |
| schestowitz | didn't find flaws in it really | Oct 10 20:23 |
| _Goblin | Im sorry but I looked at Fedora recently....It was a mess. | Oct 10 20:23 |
| schestowitz | possibly | Oct 10 20:24 |
| schestowitz | f15? | Oct 10 20:24 |
| schestowitz | or f16b? | Oct 10 20:24 |
| _Goblin | nope 15 | Oct 10 20:24 |
| schestowitz | hmm.. | Oct 10 20:24 |
| _Goblin | Ive actually got the 16b....have got around to looking at it.. | Oct 10 20:24 |
| schestowitz | the kde v of 1 was used by me at work | Oct 10 20:24 |
| _Goblin | *hevent | Oct 10 20:24 |
| schestowitz | my brother still uses it | Oct 10 20:24 |
| _Goblin | oh btw.... | Oct 10 20:25 |
| _Goblin | Windows Phone 7 devs don't have a sense of humour. | Oct 10 20:25 |
| _Goblin | or certainly not the ones who contacted me. | Oct 10 20:25 |
| schestowitz | there's nothign funny about it | Oct 10 20:26 |
| schestowitz | They'll lose their job | Oct 10 20:26 |
| schestowitz | it sucks badly | Oct 10 20:26 |
| schestowitz | Ballmer has lost his package over it | Oct 10 20:26 |
| schestowitz | He's very hot under the collar these days | Oct 10 20:26 |
| schestowitz | IBM is worth more than the Vole now | Oct 10 20:26 |
| schestowitz | [20:24] <_Goblin> Ive actually got the 16b....have got around to looking at it.. | Oct 10 20:26 |
| schestowitz | _re f16, not sure you should bother | Oct 10 20:26 |
| _Goblin | All I did was post on denti.ca: | Oct 10 20:26 |
| _Goblin | "A must have purchase for Windows Phone 7 developers: http://goo.gl/iVv9S #wp7 #windows #microsoft #mvpbuzz #mvp | Oct 10 20:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Beginning Android Application Development Wrox Programmer to Programmer: Amazon.co.uk: Wei-Meng Lee: Books .::. Size~: 355.54 KB | Oct 10 20:27 |
| schestowitz | I don't think they'll fix much | Oct 10 20:27 |
| schestowitz | they're not well organised anymore, IMHO | Oct 10 20:27 |
| schestowitz | Red Hat does well, but Fedora doesn't seem to operate like it used to | Oct 10 20:27 |
| schestowitz | a bit like openeuse | Oct 10 20:27 |
| schestowitz | My brother had some issues with kde v of f14 | Oct 10 20:27 |
| schestowitz | I spent hours getting around these | Oct 10 20:27 |
| schestowitz | and then I installed kde-netbook as default de | Oct 10 20:28 |
| schestowitz | It ends up being a nuisance when I have to make up for bugs | Oct 10 20:28 |
| schestowitz | Now I'd stick to Kubuntu LTS | Oct 10 20:28 |
| _Goblin | I'll look at 16b out of interest... | Oct 10 20:28 |
| _Goblin | I'm seriously advocating PCLinuxOS though....been so impressed. | Oct 10 20:28 |
| _Goblin | Ive never known anything so solid since 8.04LTS..... | Oct 10 20:29 |
| cubezzz | I've used Fedora 14 with gnome 2 and it worked well | Oct 10 20:30 |
| cubezzz | I won't use KDE > 4 | Oct 10 20:31 |
| schestowitz | I told my brother to use kde | Oct 10 20:31 |
| schestowitz | to promote our 'kde' cult' :-) | Oct 10 20:31 |
| cubezzz | KDE is fine... just use 3.5.10 | Oct 10 20:31 |
| schestowitz | He's technical anyway | Oct 10 20:31 |
| schestowitz | a software engineers at Philips Healthcare | Oct 10 20:32 |
| _Goblin | cubezzz: couldn't comment about 3.5 ... but Ive had no issue with 4.6.5 | Oct 10 20:32 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: kate there is old | Oct 10 20:32 |
| schestowitz | you're missing some application updates | Oct 10 20:32 |
| _Goblin | I still hate this K business before apps though | Oct 10 20:32 |
| schestowitz | the DE is good | Oct 10 20:32 |
| cubezzz | schestowitz, the ability to run on older computers trumps the application updates | Oct 10 20:32 |
| schestowitz | although you miss some nice visual effects and all the cool widgets (or, did I say cool? Must be an apple fan :-) ) | Oct 10 20:33 |
| cubezzz | at least it does for me | Oct 10 20:33 |
| schestowitz | fair enough | Oct 10 20:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] are you watching futurama too or is this just a great coincidence? | Oct 10 20:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Steve Jobs: The Emperor of Cupertino (Slate Political gabfest): http://slate.me/oAKqik | Oct 10 20:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Gabfest: Chris Christie, Sarah Palin, Apple, and Steve Jobs - Slate Magazine .::. Size~: 71.21 KB | Oct 10 20:33 |
| _Goblin | talking of which though......resource wise.....KDE really isn't that heavy on my rig... | Oct 10 20:33 |
| _Goblin | compared to gnome or xfce | Oct 10 20:33 |
| schestowitz | i run it on 512 mb of ram | Oct 10 20:33 |
| schestowitz | with few applicatioms open it works fine | Oct 10 20:33 |
| _Goblin | very unscientific....but when doing average tasks...the load on the cpu was as follows (very rough) | Oct 10 20:33 |
| _Goblin | xfce = 7% | Oct 10 20:34 |
| _Goblin | gnome 14% | Oct 10 20:34 |
| _Goblin | KDE 16-20% | Oct 10 20:34 |
| _Goblin | however..... | Oct 10 20:34 |
| schestowitz | oil rig | Oct 10 20:34 |
| _Goblin | KDE (either by illusion or whatever) seems far more responsibe | Oct 10 20:34 |
| _Goblin | *responsive | Oct 10 20:34 |
| schestowitz | and responsible | Oct 10 20:34 |
| _Goblin | that too | Oct 10 20:34 |
| schestowitz | like a parent | Oct 10 20:34 |
| schestowitz | it does it how you like it.. endless custoimisation | Oct 10 20:35 |
| _Goblin | yeah.,.. | Oct 10 20:35 |
| _Goblin | lets not go there | Oct 10 20:35 |
| schestowitz | took a while for all options (and beyond) to be restored from kde 3.5.10 | Oct 10 20:35 |
| cubezzz | probably ratpoison beats them all | Oct 10 20:35 |
| _Goblin | endless submenu's too | Oct 10 20:35 |
| _Goblin | ;) | Oct 10 20:35 |
| schestowitz | better than clutter | Oct 10 20:35 |
| schestowitz | they changed a lot over the years | Oct 10 20:35 |
| cubezzz | xfce is good | Oct 10 20:35 |
| schestowitz | take for example desktop bg | Oct 10 20:35 |
| schestowitz | in 3.1 | Oct 10 20:35 |
| schestowitz | it was abaffling gui | Oct 10 20:36 |
| schestowitz | They started organising it better later | Oct 10 20:36 |
| schestowitz | in 3.5 | Oct 10 20:36 |
| _Goblin | well its still not simple...whats wrong with a right click on the desktop wallpaper and an option to change.. | Oct 10 20:36 |
| schestowitz | and in 4 it's really trivial and I came to like it, even if it lost some options and restored only the practical ones among them | Oct 10 20:36 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: tip: | Oct 10 20:36 |
| cubezzz | even 3.5.10 is a bit overly elaborate | Oct 10 20:36 |
| schestowitz | if you have a dir with loads of photos | Oct 10 20:36 |
| cubezzz | but it works well | Oct 10 20:36 |
| _Goblin | yep..slideshow? | Oct 10 20:37 |
| schestowitz | add all to slide show, auto-rotate every minute | Oct 10 20:37 |
| schestowitz | make windows transluent, around 70% of inactive | Oct 10 20:37 |
| schestowitz | in the past kde would not grab the files recursively | Oct 10 20:37 |
| schestowitz | so you're add to add each single. directory. one. after. the . other. | Oct 10 20:37 |
| _Goblin | yeah... I only tend to see my wallpaper on bootup (as its covered with apps after that)....ocassionally if I'm to lame to copy with the command line I may drag and drop on the desktop...but even that.... | Oct 10 20:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] ah | Oct 10 20:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A Huge Leap Forward for #OpenScience - http://bit.ly/owyMWl #cern leads the way again | Oct 10 20:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: A Huge Leap Forward for Open Science .::. Size~: 58.12 KB | Oct 10 20:38 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: odes your GPU have a splitting cable or two outputs? | Oct 10 20:38 |
| _Goblin | and how about (such as Gnome does) merely draging a app icon to the taskbar and a shortcut is placed there automatically... | Oct 10 20:38 |
| schestowitz | 2 screens on kde is a delight | Oct 10 20:38 |
| schestowitz | and they will support these better | Oct 10 20:38 |
| _Goblin | neither | Oct 10 20:38 |
| schestowitz | The KDE Dot News site made some announcement | Oct 10 20:38 |
| _Goblin | its a onboard gfx card | Oct 10 20:38 |
| _Goblin | cheapest of the cheap | Oct 10 20:38 |
| schestowitz | They can allow vertical next to horizontal now | Oct 10 20:38 |
| cubezzz | schestowitz, I'll probably port some of my motif stuff to KDE eventually | Oct 10 20:38 |
| _Goblin | it even shares video ram with my rigs ram | Oct 10 20:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Automotive #Linux Summit 2011 - http://bit.ly/qejGN4 potentially huge market, but seems slow to take off | Oct 10 20:39 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 10 20:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @NinaPaley Next "How to Free Your Work" workshop in Umea, Sweden! http://blog.humlab.umu.se/?p=3681 | Oct 10 20:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Kindle Fire Hit With Patent Suit - http://bit.ly/qYTQWz didn't take long for the trolls to get moving #swpats #amazon | Oct 10 20:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: “How to Free your Work” Workshop with Nina Paley in HUMlab « The HUMLab blog : .::. Size~: 10.79 KB | Oct 10 20:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Kindle Fire Hit With Patent Suit | paidContent .::. Size~: 46.99 KB | Oct 10 20:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Google+ Loses 60% of Active Users http://goo.gl/IjdR2 - reads like #Facebook astroturfing, though it could be a coincidence | Oct 10 20:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google+ Loses 60% of Active Users - Slashdot .::. Size~: 143.83 KB | Oct 10 20:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #mozilla: 3 days of massive learning in London - http://bit.ly/q3BecK sounds good #openweb | Oct 10 20:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] yes; funny how the phones are always uber expensive when we first buy them .. can't afford to turn them into bricks | Oct 10 20:44 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 3 days of massive learning in London « commonspace .::. Size~: 29.11 KB | Oct 10 20:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Life of Brian would be risky now, says Terry Jones http://gu.com/p/32gb8 #MontyPython | Oct 10 20:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Life of Brian would be risky now, says Terry Jones | Film | The Guardian .::. Size~: 111.06 KB | Oct 10 20:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] no more #sip_and_click. The camera was lost somewhere in Lancaster, PA. I think it might be in Beard Team Canada's war wagon. Hella wicked | Oct 10 20:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Independent gamers can make millions from DRM-free, pay-what-you-want promotions. See for yourself at http://ur1.ca/2l614 | Oct 10 20:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Humble Frozen Synapse Bundle (pay what you want and help charity) .::. Size~: 114.77 KB | Oct 10 20:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Ben & Jerry’s Becomes First High-Profile Company to Support Occupy Wall Street http://identi.ca/url/54054968 | Oct 10 20:54 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ben & Jerry's Becomes First High-Profile Company to Support Occupy Wall Street | Death and Taxes .::. Size~: 447.67 KB | Oct 10 20:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Rich and Tasty: Recipes for the New Class Warfare http://identi.ca/url/54054977 | Oct 10 20:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Rich and Tasty: Recipes for the New Class Warfare – Boing Boing .::. Size~: 21.23 KB | Oct 10 20:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #MeghanMcCain Slapped Down; Will It Be A SLAPP Down? http://goo.gl/IwH85 #StriesendEffect | Oct 10 20:59 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Meghan McCain Slapped Down; Will It Be A SLAPP Down? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 72.27 KB | Oct 10 20:59 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/Rhodri_Lambda5/statuses/123441419418484736 | Oct 10 21:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Rhodri_Lambda5: Here's a view of the man from another side: http://t.co/P2TUYnpv | Oct 10 21:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 10 21:01 |
| schestowitz | I didn't expect so many people to read it | Oct 10 21:01 |
| schestowitz | My dad's reaction, indpendent completely from mine, was that there was crazy media hype | Oct 10 21:01 |
| schestowitz | And that Jobs didn't do much to actually advance society | Oct 10 21:01 |
| schestowitz | Yet they dedictae so many pages in newspapers to him | Oct 10 21:02 |
| MinceR | meanwhile there's a cult of money in hungaristan and a cult of successful criminals | Oct 10 21:02 |
| schestowitz | Because he was rich, not because he contributed much | Oct 10 21:02 |
| MinceR | did i mention that i'm sick of this country? | Oct 10 21:02 |
| schestowitz | But my values are similar to my dad's, so no surprise there | Oct 10 21:02 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: the UK is similar wrt greed | Oct 10 21:02 |
| schestowitz | and the economy here sort of collapses | Oct 10 21:02 |
| schestowitz | Some mates of mine expect to lose their job at the end of the year | Oct 10 21:02 |
| schestowitz | no flow of money in this economy | Oct 10 21:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Everything Is A Remix: THE MATRIX http://identi.ca/url/54055030 | Oct 10 21:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Everything Is A Remix: THE MATRIX on Vimeo .::. Size~: 137.03 KB | Oct 10 21:03 |
| schestowitz | houses will lose their values and those with billions in savings will scoop them all up on the cheap | Oct 10 21:03 |
| schestowitz | back to feudalism | Oct 10 21:03 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/Markthetrigeek/statuses/123453817328111616 | Oct 10 21:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Markthetrigeek: It was bound to happy but the pendulum has swung back. http://t.co/5XCZ6z6v http://t.co/sOrm3Syj And the list is growing. #flameonnet | Oct 10 21:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 10 21:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 10 21:05 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/thegreyshadow/statuses/123411047116845056 | Oct 10 21:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @thegreyshadow: Una perspectiva realista sobre San #SteveJobs - http://t.co/QBdoZidy | Oct 10 21:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 10 21:05 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: you're quoted here http://twitter.com/Slave2Machine/statuses/123468521027014656 | Oct 10 21:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Slave2Machine: About time #Microsoft read a dog-eared copy of #"Art of War." (Or maybe #Kindle?) Why kill #Linux when you can absorb? http://t.co/JvT9Cjjt | Oct 10 21:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 10 21:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Aumento de 40% graças ao PS » FU-BAR| "Lei da Cópia Privada" - #MAFIAA http://goo.gl/IJ5Fb http://goo.gl/nvAth | Oct 10 21:06 | |
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| MinceR | :) | Oct 10 21:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] A slideshow on what makes a good programmer actually good http://identi.ca/url/54050899 | Oct 10 21:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Armed Chinese Troops in Texas! - YouTube #REVOLUTION #usa http://ur1.ca/5d1f0 | Oct 10 21:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I succumbed.. supper was a bacon and crisp sarnie. | Oct 10 21:24 | |
| DaemonFC | there's nothing horribly wrong with KDE's GUI | Oct 10 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | I think the plasmoids think is a bit much | Oct 10 21:27 |
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| DaemonFC | not that they have them, but that they have a thing permanently advertising them on your desktop | Oct 10 21:27 |
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| neildarlow | DaemonFC: the only element of KDE I get frustrated with is KMail but I've not found anything much better. | Oct 10 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | are there a shortage of mail clients? | Oct 10 21:31 |
| *DaemonFC thinks there isn't :D | Oct 10 21:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The world is a big place not everyone is like you or talks like you. | Oct 10 21:31 | |
| neildarlow | DaemonFC: no. I've tried thunderbird and claws but they seem clunky | Oct 10 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | thunderbird is bloated | Oct 10 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | claws is a fork gone wrong of Sylpheed | Oct 10 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | try Sylpheed :) | Oct 10 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | it seems to be the only somewhat decent lightweight email client | Oct 10 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | though Thunderbird is pleasant to use | Oct 10 21:32 |
| neildarlow | DaemonFC: last I tried, sylpheed was some way behind claws feature-wise | Oct 10 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | it's just huge | Oct 10 21:32 |
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| DaemonFC | well, the thing to remember is not how many features something has | Oct 10 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | it's how many you actually use | Oct 10 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 21:33 |
| neildarlow | in a mail client, I do use rather a lot. it's probably my most used app | Oct 10 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft Office is a great example of features added to increase the feature count | Oct 10 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | if you expand all the toolbars in Word, it takes half the screen | Oct 10 21:34 |
| neildarlow | I don't know. haven't used windows as my os for 16 years | Oct 10 21:34 |
| cubezzz | ah, they'll get it to fill the whole screen someday :) | Oct 10 21:36 |
| _Goblin | DaemonFC: you know what you were saying the other day about chrome pop-unders? | Oct 10 21:36 |
| _Goblin | DaemonFC: They've just got smart....... | Oct 10 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | who did? | Oct 10 21:37 |
| MinceR | thunderbird is pleasant to use until libnss decides it doesn't like the SSL implementation of your server | Oct 10 21:38 |
| cubezzz | text only email client for me | Oct 10 21:38 |
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| MinceR | Claws Mail can work in non-html mode :> | Oct 10 21:39 |
| MinceR | in fact, it's the default | Oct 10 21:39 |
| __Goblin | damn | Oct 10 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | so can Sylpheed | Oct 10 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | I hate HTML email | Oct 10 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | people that send HTML email should die in a fire | Oct 10 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | perhaps after one warning | Oct 10 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | because I'm nice | Oct 10 21:41 |
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| MinceR | "for i am kind" | Oct 10 21:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Happy Thanksgiving !Canada [pictured is #Queen'sPark, Toronto] !CdnPoli !ONpoli http://identi.ca/attachment/54055375 | Oct 10 21:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: http://file.status.net/i/identica/laurelrusswurm-20111010T203826-bgkllag.jpeg - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 11.4 KB | Oct 10 21:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RE Canada... watched a BPC programme about USA plans to invade Canada in the 1930's. Very interesting. | Oct 10 21:44 | |
| DaemonFC | because they have oil? | Oct 10 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | or terrorists? | Oct 10 21:48 |
| neildarlow | they have mooses :) | Oct 10 21:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] we scared them off when we burned the White House down in the War of 1812 :D | Oct 10 21:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] :) Seriously though they were serious in 30's. Thought British would move millions of Indian soldiers to Canada, Britain planned naval war. | Oct 10 21:54 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84520619 | Oct 10 22:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Monday, 10-Oct-11 20:47:33 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz you are right Gnome is a comfort zone for me. Look at the hoo ha caused by @identi.ca changing it's website. | Oct 10 22:11 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: is he talking about you? | Oct 10 22:12 |
| _Goblin | ? | Oct 10 22:13 |
| _Goblin | in reference to Gnome? | Oct 10 22:13 |
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| _Goblin | I suppose...Ive (in the past referred to Gnome as being in my comfort zone.....) although Gnome-shell that to me is like sitting on a cactus, not comfortable at all. | Oct 10 22:14 |
| schestowitz | he responds to the 'cast | Oct 10 22:15 |
| schestowitz | gnome-shell is gnome redone for your lady | Oct 10 22:16 |
| schestowitz | tell her that to get her off off x :> | Oct 10 22:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #UK #USA #world #pseudodemocracy - "...the UK is only superficially governed by MPs and the voters who elect them." http://goo.gl/R0C99 | Oct 10 22:16 | |
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| schestowitz | *off osx | Oct 10 22:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] We Are the 99 Percent #ows http://ur1.ca/540h7 | Oct 10 22:18 | |
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| schestowitz | i'm getting some good work done today... | Oct 10 22:19 |
| schestowitz | but no posts in the site | Oct 10 22:19 |
| schestowitz | I'll catch up with it tomorrow, I guess | Oct 10 22:19 |
| schestowitz | gnome-shill | Oct 10 22:20 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Oct 10 22:20 |
| schestowitz | I know some of these... | Oct 10 22:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] anyone else having an issue with #UMplayer not resuming after pausing? Sometimes after flicking to or from full screen | Oct 10 22:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the only solution I've found is to reopen the same file, it resumes from the last position; it works, it's just annoying | Oct 10 22:23 | |
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| _Goblin | Interesting: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/595755 | Oct 10 22:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] What is up with you? | Oct 10 22:24 | |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 10 22:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 10 22:25 |
| MinceR | if only because of GNU/Linux and X and not because of KDE :> | Oct 10 22:25 |
| MinceR | gn | Oct 10 22:27 |
| schestowitz | diaspora rocks | Oct 10 22:27 |
| schestowitz | very good s/n ratio | Oct 10 22:27 |
| _Goblin | yep! | Oct 10 22:27 |
| schestowitz | I try to only post there top news | Oct 10 22:27 |
| schestowitz | in identica I posted less important news as well | Oct 10 22:27 |
| _Goblin | and then you have a nice little forum for discussion after your post.... | Oct 10 22:27 |
| schestowitz | yes, exactly | Oct 10 22:28 |
| schestowitz | visible | Oct 10 22:28 |
| schestowitz | not fragmented | Oct 10 22:28 |
| _Goblin | Ive another recommendation for you.... | Oct 10 22:28 |
| schestowitz | I'm sticking with diaspora | Oct 10 22:28 |
| _Goblin | not a social network.....a sort of social links site... | Oct 10 22:28 |
| schestowitz | do you want instructions on how to export from diaspora to idetica? | Oct 10 22:28 |
| _Goblin | pearltrees.com - it allows you to discover gems which are recommended by real people not what google's search engine thinks is most relevant.... | Oct 10 22:29 |
| _Goblin | we could collaborate on a Gnu/linux + foss recommended links tree..... | Oct 10 22:29 |
| schestowitz | Many sites claim to be doing that | Oct 10 22:30 |
| schestowitz | they can be gamed as they grow though | Oct 10 22:30 |
| schestowitz | like Digg | Oct 10 22:30 |
| schestowitz | maybe StumbleUpon | Oct 10 22:30 |
| _Goblin | pealtrees wrap it up in a lovely looking visual medium...have a look, you'll see what I mean.... | Oct 10 22:30 |
| schestowitz | ok | Oct 10 22:30 |
| _Goblin | there's only one drawback.... | Oct 10 22:30 |
| schestowitz | Flash?! | Oct 10 22:31 |
| _Goblin | it was a bbcclick recommendation | Oct 10 22:31 |
| _Goblin | the shame, the shame. | Oct 10 22:31 |
| schestowitz | Empty page | Oct 10 22:31 |
| schestowitz | front page some empty flash object | Oct 10 22:31 |
| _Goblin | yep its flash.. | Oct 10 22:31 |
| _Goblin | sorry, missed your previous comment | Oct 10 22:32 |
| _Goblin | at least go over to youtube and see a vid on it....I think its a fantastic way to find some real little gems of sites/opinions out there. | Oct 10 22:32 |
| _Goblin | and those gems you would never discover as they would be lost in thousands of other google search results. | Oct 10 22:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Rússia disponível para ajudar países da Zona Euro - ajuda externa - Jornal de negócios online http://goo.gl/dAam2 | Oct 10 22:39 | |
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| _Goblin | schestowitz: sorry...in reference to your identi.ca tip...I will be sticking with my "Over on Diaspora" and a identi.ca unique summary....posting automatically from Diaspora would not convey the post as I want to....I would though be interested to see how you are doing it... | Oct 10 22:48 |
| schestowitz | okay, fair 'nuff | Oct 10 22:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] How many groups does @communix have to be excluded from before he changes his name? | Oct 10 22:51 | |
| schestowitz | Android fanboi florian: http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/123435546965057536 | Oct 10 22:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: paidContent.org: Amazon's Kindle Fire Hit With Patent Suit http://t.co/Y6w7YGt5 via @paidContent by @jeffjohnroberts | Oct 10 22:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 10 22:53 |
| _Goblin | Been looking at DART.......and my main question is.... Why? | Oct 10 22:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Question to ask religious die hards. If you were born in "a n other country" what religion do you think you would be? | Oct 10 22:59 | |
| DaemonFC | a power grab by Google? | Oct 10 23:00 |
| _Goblin | but who is it trying to convince? | Oct 10 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | I think it will blow over | Oct 10 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | javascript is the incumbent | Oct 10 23:00 |
| _Goblin | and will a java dev for example tip all their eggs out of their basket so to speak and switch on a whim to an untested, unproven beta language..... | Oct 10 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | and I don't see other browsers hurrying up to implement Google's new script language | Oct 10 23:01 |
| _Goblin | in the hope that other industry pro's do the same.... | Oct 10 23:01 |
| _Goblin | didn't they have Go or something similar? | Oct 10 23:01 |
| DaemonFC | that's not scripting | Oct 10 23:01 |
| _Goblin | ah | Oct 10 23:01 |
| schestowitz | Indsutry cons like Microsoft would be dismissive | Oct 10 23:01 |
| _Goblin | I remember reading something about it a while ago... | Oct 10 23:01 |
| schestowitz | look at the hissy they threw over vp8 | Oct 10 23:02 |
| _Goblin | but then look at Wave.... | Oct 10 23:02 |
| _Goblin | not a language I know, but people invested time in it with google dropping it on a whim | Oct 10 23:02 |
| _Goblin | now who on earth would be convinced to take up Dart? | Oct 10 23:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !techbytes nice show and nice thoughtful choice of music again. | Oct 10 23:03 | |
| _Goblin | because as I see it, it offers no real advantage over say Java...especially if you consider the people they want to attract are going to be seasoned, entrenched Java users. | Oct 10 23:03 |
| _Goblin | unless I'm missing some killer feature....I wait to be informed.. | Oct 10 23:04 |
| _Goblin | I joked years ago about waking up in a Microsoft world with everything being run by them......seems the sleeping dragon has woken and it wasn't Microsoft....is there any service/product "genre" that Google doesnt want to offer us? | Oct 10 23:05 |
| schestowitz | roy@roy:~$ uptime | Oct 10 23:05 |
| schestowitz | 23:05:25 up 49 days, 23:50, 1 user, load average: 1.63, 1.38, 1.24 | Oct 10 23:05 |
| schestowitz | in 10 minutes it'll be 50 days for my desktop session | Oct 10 23:05 |
| _Goblin | 23:02:11 up 14:04, 3 users, load average: 0.01, 0.14, 0.23 | Oct 10 23:05 |
| schestowitz | nice effort :p | Oct 10 23:06 |
| _Goblin | lol | Oct 10 23:06 |
| _Goblin | thats an excessively long time for me. | Oct 10 23:06 |
| schestowitz | I think my best is half a year | Oct 10 23:06 |
| schestowitz | my computer is basically always on, for years | Oct 10 23:06 |
| schestowitz | this one was on since I bought it in 2008 pretty much | Oct 10 23:06 |
| _Goblin | not sure about the 3 users bit though... | Oct 10 23:06 |
| schestowitz | even when I go on vacation it stays on | Oct 10 23:07 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: you have terminal sessions running? | Oct 10 23:07 |
| _Goblin | I was joking.... | Oct 10 23:07 |
| schestowitz | maybe the trolls took over yours | Oct 10 23:07 |
| _Goblin | and yes... | Oct 10 23:07 |
| schestowitz | type inn last and w | Oct 10 23:08 |
| _Goblin | I was wanting to start a little conspiracy of my own... | Oct 10 23:08 |
| schestowitz | and see what other sessions are active | Oct 10 23:08 |
| _Goblin | mind you, I wouldn't be surprised if the wife is monitoring! | Oct 10 23:08 |
| schestowitz | she is | Oct 10 23:08 |
| schestowitz | ps auz | gnome-shell | Oct 10 23:08 |
| _Goblin | big mamma is watching you! | Oct 10 23:08 |
| schestowitz | the's the missus | Oct 10 23:09 |
| schestowitz | *aux | Oct 10 23:09 |
| _Goblin | Scary thing is.....I run Moonshell on the DS....I wonder, she monitoring that? | Oct 10 23:09 |
| schestowitz | !google Moonshell | Oct 10 23:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - MoonShell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MoonShell | Oct 10 23:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - MoonShell - DS and DSi Homebrew Help | http://www.ds-xtra.com/MoonShell | Oct 10 23:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - MoonShell 2.10 Stable (Full Package) download on FileTrip.net ... | http://filetrip.net/f9730-MoonShell-2-10-Stable-(Full-Package).html | Oct 10 23:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - How to install Moonshell 2.10 to your Nintendo DS - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D1eulZ5RemOI | Oct 10 23:09 |
| _Goblin | shes taking over tech! Moonshell gnome-shell | Oct 10 23:09 |
| schestowitz | I see... | Oct 10 23:09 |
| schestowitz | I use dgen and snes | Oct 10 23:10 |
| schestowitz | when I last set this up for someone it was simple | Oct 10 23:10 |
| schestowitz | in the repos | Oct 10 23:10 |
| schestowitz | waa complicated when I did this in SUSE 8.1 | Oct 10 23:10 |
| _Goblin | dgen...ah thats a blast from the past... | Oct 10 23:10 |
| schestowitz | well, just a *little* more complciated | Oct 10 23:10 |
| schestowitz | there are windows equivs too | Oct 10 23:10 |
| schestowitz | But Windowd does not always get the speeds right | Oct 10 23:10 |
| _Goblin | I used to love Genesyst (win binary) .... its GUI had blood dripping from the menu... | Oct 10 23:11 |
| schestowitz | then I get nagged with 'support' queries | Oct 10 23:11 |
| schestowitz | Kids still play Sonic (2d) | Oct 10 23:11 |
| schestowitz | and Worms | Oct 10 23:11 |
| _Goblin | mupen64 (N64) is very good.... Solid stable... | Oct 10 23:11 |
| schestowitz | it's funny when I make kids play the same games I did | Oct 10 23:11 |
| schestowitz | And then it's like a wormhole | Oct 10 23:11 |
| _Goblin | I can bore them more.... | Oct 10 23:12 |
| _Goblin | try a zx81 title | Oct 10 23:12 |
| schestowitz | It's me who knows the games better than them and I kick their arse... Street Fighter 2 for example | Oct 10 23:12 |
| _Goblin | at least from your past the games actually looked like games. | Oct 10 23:12 |
| _Goblin | Ryu! FTW | Oct 10 23:12 |
| schestowitz | When I play the nw Nintendo stuff I get beaten by kids younger than 15... it's embarrassing | Oct 10 23:12 |
| schestowitz | ys, i always played for ryu | Oct 10 23:12 |
| schestowitz | vega was my nemesis | Oct 10 23:13 |
| _Goblin | I remember the hardest move was Zangiefs spinning piledriver. | Oct 10 23:13 |
| schestowitz | Zangief is crap | Oct 10 23:13 |
| _Goblin | and I also remember how rubbish PAL SNES's were. | Oct 10 23:13 |
| schestowitz | shame for the Russians | Oct 10 23:13 |
| schestowitz | Putin should sue Capcom | Oct 10 23:13 |
| _Goblin | lol... | Oct 10 23:14 |
| _Goblin | but get that piledriver move on....took off 3/4 the energy bar | Oct 10 23:14 |
| schestowitz | They added a Brit only in later versions | Oct 10 23:14 |
| schestowitz | Gemma | Oct 10 23:14 |
| schestowitz | iirc | Oct 10 23:14 |
| _Goblin | oh right......... | Oct 10 23:14 |
| _Goblin | I never was that big a fan.... | Oct 10 23:14 |
| schestowitz | at least she looked good | Oct 10 23:14 |
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| _Goblin | I used to like the shootem ups... | Oct 10 23:14 |
| schestowitz | !google street fighter gemma | Oct 10 23:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Gemma (Cammy) and Manchurian Guys (Street Fighter) Arcade ... | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DLX2fjjHh2Es | Oct 10 23:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo - Wikipedia | http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Puzzle_Fighter_II_Turbo | Oct 10 23:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - List of Sons of Anarchy characters - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sons_of_Anarchy_characters | Oct 10 23:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Gemma Spittle (Mr Longbeard Stinkypants [LandShark]) on Myspace | http://www.myspace.com/gemness | Oct 10 23:14 |
| schestowitz | maybe gemmi? | Oct 10 23:15 |
| schestowitz | hmmm.. | Oct 10 23:15 |
| _Goblin | Wasn't it Tami | Oct 10 23:15 |
| _Goblin | ? | Oct 10 23:15 |
| _Goblin | Tammi? | Oct 10 23:15 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Interests/Screenshots/Street_Fighter_2/ | Oct 10 23:15 |
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| koolhead17 | schestowitz hellos | Oct 10 23:16 |
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| _Goblin | schestowitz: You should look at emulating SF2 through Mame .... the original arcade version | Oct 10 23:16 |
| schestowitz | Cammy | Oct 10 23:17 |
| schestowitz | http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2009/02/cammyjack.jpg | Oct 10 23:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Oct 10 23:17 |
| _Goblin | (Mame) thats a package thats rarely mentioned in Linuxland...all those great arcade classics.......in their original form, not some watered down console version. | Oct 10 23:17 |
| schestowitz | An old friend of mine sold those | Oct 10 23:17 |
| schestowitz | mame with mods | Oct 10 23:17 |
| schestowitz | made a fortune (anf fame) when he was 19 | Oct 10 23:18 |
| schestowitz | let's see what's he's up to these days | Oct 10 23:18 |
| _Goblin | Mame is in my repo's....I could very quickly give it a look.....mmmm....nah, won't I'll waste too much time on it. | Oct 10 23:18 |
| schestowitz | With the name jonathan thompson he's not so googlable | Oct 10 23:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "They probably do not even masturbate to the constitution" Jon Stewart tongue in cheek about the USA anti capitalist demonstrations. | Oct 10 23:19 | |
| _Goblin | One of those things Ive always wanted to get around to doing.... A mame cabinet.... | Oct 10 23:25 |
| _Goblin | wasn't bad at woodwork as a child... | Oct 10 23:26 |
| _Goblin | does woodwork still get taught in schools? | Oct 10 23:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The owner of the Wookey hole tea rooms said "Prove the witch does not exist" At this point they were recognised by the state as a cathedral. | Oct 10 23:26 | |
| _Goblin | or is it now removed for health and safety....? | Oct 10 23:26 |
| _Goblin | we did metal work too.... | Oct 10 23:27 |
| _Goblin | infact come to think about it, my school days were very much like Minecraft....just without the mining. | Oct 10 23:27 |
| _Goblin | technical drawing....cookery, woodwork, metalwork, textiles..... | Oct 10 23:28 |
| _Goblin | oh pottery | Oct 10 23:28 |
| _Goblin | forgot that one. | Oct 10 23:28 |
| _Goblin | and we did real sciences....not this modern "combined science"... | Oct 10 23:28 |
| schestowitz | "ICT" | Oct 10 23:29 |
| schestowitz | Which stands for... | Oct 10 23:29 |
| schestowitz | hmm... | Oct 10 23:29 |
| schestowitz | Indoctrination | Oct 10 23:29 |
| schestowitz | Courses | Oct 10 23:29 |
| schestowitz | & Training | Oct 10 23:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] It all sounds very complicated. I am going to stick to sudoku :) | Oct 10 23:29 | |
| schestowitz | Brought to you by Microsoft Corporation | Oct 10 23:30 |
| schestowitz | From world's biggest genius, Bill Gates Junior | Oct 10 23:30 |
| schestowitz | !google ed reform hijacked gates | Oct 10 23:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - The Corporate Hijacking of Public Education | Left Turn - Notes from ... | http://www.leftturn.org/corporate-hijacking-public-education | Oct 10 23:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Undereducated by the Billions: Steve Jobs Steps Closer to Bill Gates ... | http://techrights.org/2011/09/30/corporations-and-plutocrats-game/ | Oct 10 23:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - The Download: The best school policy money can buy ... | http://www.commonwealthmagazine.org/The-Download/The-Download-The-best-school-policy-money-can-buy.aspx | Oct 10 23:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Bill Gates and the Gates Foundation | Seattle Education | http://seattleducation2010.wordpress.com/race-to-the-top/bill-gates-and-the-gates-foundation/ | Oct 10 23:30 |
| schestowitz | see [2] | Oct 10 23:30 |
| schestowitz | Jobs the Saint was also getting a piece of this corrupt pie | Oct 10 23:31 |
| schestowitz | Tilting US edu | Oct 10 23:31 |
| schestowitz | Corporatising here | Oct 10 23:31 |
| schestowitz | But look at merciless me | Oct 10 23:31 |
| schestowitz | I'm so horrible, telling off a dead man | Oct 10 23:31 |
| schestowitz | How dare I? | Oct 10 23:31 |
| _Goblin | yep...may you burn in the fires of silicon hell for that. | Oct 10 23:32 |
| _Goblin | * From Red Dwarf btw | Oct 10 23:32 |
| schestowitz | Silicon hell? | Oct 10 23:32 |
| _Goblin | yep....it was where all the bad mechanoids were sent... | Oct 10 23:33 |
| schestowitz | I know closely a world renowned silicon prof. :-) | Oct 10 23:33 |
| schestowitz | They still improve those | Oct 10 23:33 |
| schestowitz | making gates smallr | Oct 10 23:33 |
| schestowitz | and still reliable | Oct 10 23:33 |
| schestowitz | less burn | Oct 10 23:33 |
| schestowitz | less heat | Oct 10 23:33 |
| schestowitz | less energy | Oct 10 23:33 |
| schestowitz | the smaller these get | Oct 10 23:33 |
| schestowitz | maybe one day they'll make something that fits into a phone and can run window :-) | Oct 10 23:34 |
| schestowitz | not some lamer version like Vista Phoney 7 | Oct 10 23:34 |
| _Goblin | Maybe next time you are accused about telling off a dead man, you can ask Mr or Mrs Offended to clarify just how long does one have to wait before one can indeed express an opinion on someone who is no longer with us. | Oct 10 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | it's nice how github doesn't make someone post a license for what they host there | Oct 10 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | nothing like walking into some potentially nonfree source code | Oct 10 23:35 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: like Rusty say, we cannot wait to long | Oct 10 23:35 |
| schestowitz | my aritcle about jobs was widely xcited BTW | Oct 10 23:35 |
| _Goblin | I love the way MS advocates uses the "Im shocked" tactic... | Oct 10 23:35 |
| schestowitz | My friend Kieran at the gym was unsure about it when I typed it | Oct 10 23:35 |
| schestowitz | and read it out loud | Oct 10 23:35 |
| schestowitz | I said I'd be polite and I was... | Oct 10 23:35 |
| schestowitz | >> MS advocates uses the "Im shocked" | Oct 10 23:36 |
| schestowitz | !google gates win 2000 keyboard electrocuted | Oct 10 23:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Childproofing Your Home - 12 Safety Devices to Protect Your Children | http://homeparents.about.com/od/familyhealth/a/childproofing1.htm | Oct 10 23:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Bill Gates Quotes | Made Manual | http://www.mademan.com/mm/bill-gates-quotes.html | Oct 10 23:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Hoax Busters - Frequently Asked Questions | http://www.hoaxbusters.org/faq.html | Oct 10 23:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Microsoft - Uncyclopedia, the content-free encyclopedia | http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Microsoft | Oct 10 23:36 |
| _Goblin | funny thing is, they haven't considered how it looks when they are spouting their disingenuous "shocked" - Whilst they are pretending that Steve was great, they are forgetting that they are promoting the "enemy" - How does that look to the mainstream when even Microsoft advocates are praising Apple? | Oct 10 23:36 |
| schestowitz | But I think it's from a fake 'intrview' | Oct 10 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | shocking? | Oct 10 23:37 |
| *DaemonFC in George Takei voice | Oct 10 23:37 | |
| DaemonFC | OHHHHHHHHH MYYYYYYYY | Oct 10 23:37 |
| _Goblin | lets hear what Ballmer has to say about Mr Jobs...then people can make reference to what RMS said... | Oct 10 23:37 |
| _Goblin | Thing is, RMS had the guts and honesty to say his view..... We all know Ballmer won't. | Oct 10 23:37 |
| schestowitz | Ballmer is PC | Oct 10 23:38 |
| schestowitz | If he said anything, he'd play along with the mainstream | Oct 10 23:38 |
| _Goblin | yep | Oct 10 23:38 |
| schestowitz | Like Obama did | Oct 10 23:38 |
| schestowitz | Played it dafe | Oct 10 23:38 |
| _Goblin | dishonest | Oct 10 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | a big fat protohuman | Oct 10 23:38 |
| schestowitz | But looked like a fool to many | Oct 10 23:38 |
| schestowitz | Even my dad | Oct 10 23:38 |
| schestowitz | He's a critical thinker | Oct 10 23:38 |
| _Goblin | So whilst RMS is damned for his honesty....Ballmer is praised for his cowardice....or at least left alone. | Oct 10 23:38 |
| schestowitz | He asked, what did this guy invent? Penicillin? | Oct 10 23:39 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: no, Gqates it h coward | Oct 10 23:39 |
| schestowitz | he won't speak | Oct 10 23:39 |
| schestowitz | Of many things | Oct 10 23:39 |
| schestowitz | lIke war | Oct 10 23:39 |
| schestowitz | or crimes he committed | Oct 10 23:39 |
| schestowitz | He plays being "small" | Oct 10 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! WINDOWS BABY!!! WOOOOOOHOOOOO!!!! I LOVE THIS COMPANY!!!!! | Oct 10 23:39 |
| _Goblin | Do I agree with RMS? No...however I praise him for having the guts and openness to speak his mind and not hide behind a fear of public perception. | Oct 10 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | Want a Zune? They're cheap now! :) | Oct 10 23:39 |
| schestowitz | He's like the kid who stabs you with a needle and rushes to the corner, hiding | Oct 10 23:40 |
| schestowitz | !google gates knife tot he fight | Oct 10 23:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Can the fight against teenage knife crime be won? | UK news | The ... | http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jul/18/knife-crime-london-deaths | Oct 10 23:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Obama: 'If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun ... | http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/06/14/obama-if-they-bring-a-knife-to-the-fight-we-bring-a-gun/ | Oct 10 23:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Obama: 'If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun' | http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2482761/posts | Oct 10 23:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Obama Says, 'If They Bring A Knife To The Fight, We Bring A Gun ... | http://sadhillnews.com/2011/01/09/obama-says-%25E2%2580%2598if-they-bring-a-knife-to-the-fight-we-bring-a-gun%25E2%2580%2599-and-other-vitriol-ignored-by-mainstream-media-as-possible-influence-on-gabrielle-giffords-shooter-jared-lee-lou | Oct 10 23:40 |
| _Goblin | DaemonFC: They were always cheap...I remember in 2009 someone remarking they were in the bargain bins in stores | Oct 10 23:40 |
| schestowitz | !google bill gates knife fight | Oct 10 23:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Knife Fight Clothing | Facebook | http://www.facebook.com/knifefightclothing | Oct 10 23:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Knife Fight Clothing (@KnifeFightCloth) on Twitter | http://twitter.com/KnifeFightCloth | Oct 10 23:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - The Social Network Quotes (Page 2) | http://www.moviequotesandmore.com/social-network-quotes-1.html | Oct 10 23:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Google CEO Eric Schmidt OUT, Larry Page in: Was Schmidt too nice ... | http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2010/04/eric_schmidt_is_the_nicest_guy_in_tech.html | Oct 10 23:40 |
| schestowitz | how quickly that quote vanished | Oct 10 23:40 |
| schestowitz | well, it's from the 80s or 90s | Oct 10 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | _Goblin: a lot of them got sold cheaply as refurbs, that can mean two things | Oct 10 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | a lot of them failed | Oct 10 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | or a lot of people decided they hated it and took it back | Oct 10 23:41 |
| _Goblin | they did....remember the 2009 new years day crash? | Oct 10 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Oct 10 23:41 |
| _Goblin | classic Microsoft | Oct 10 23:41 |
| _Goblin | if you are going to crash and burn, make sure you do it on a memorable day. | Oct 10 23:42 |
| schestowitz | "A lot of people make that analogy that competing with Bill Gates is like playing hardball. I'd say it's more like a knife fight." Gary Clow | Oct 10 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | December 22nd, 2012 | Oct 10 23:42 |
| _Goblin | mind you they carried on the fine tradition with the 360, RRODing every other month. | Oct 10 23:42 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: camping dies? | Oct 10 23:42 |
| schestowitz | his follower can build him a space elevator | Oct 10 23:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Capitalism / vampirism a synonym you may not be familiar with. Suck them dry. | Oct 10 23:43 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Knowing my grandmother, she'll stock a year's worth of canned goods under her bed again | Oct 10 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | like she did for Y2K | Oct 10 23:43 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: to emulate a rapture scenario | Oct 10 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | the preachers on TV told her it would be a disaster | Oct 10 23:43 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: Robertson said so? | Oct 10 23:43 |
| schestowitz | lol | Oct 10 23:43 |
| schestowitz | you beat me to it | Oct 10 23:43 |
| schestowitz | maybe they can get sponsorships | Oct 10 23:44 |
| _Goblin | y2k wasn't scaremongering it was a real bug, it was merely that with Microsoft software and its plethora of flaws, nobody noticed the y2k bug....it was one of many... | Oct 10 23:44 |
| schestowitz | the scammers | Oct 10 23:44 |
| schestowitz | and then tell those ladies what to stock, naming the brand and massive quantities that are needed | Oct 10 23:44 |
| schestowitz | . profit! | Oct 10 23:44 |
| *schestowitz was in the Y2K film | Oct 10 23:44 | |
| _Goblin | its difficult to notice a y2k bug when your windows machine had already BSOD'd for the 1000th time...or gone into a perpetual reset loop as a result of an update. | Oct 10 23:45 |
| DaemonFC | so some old PCs with an old BIOS think it's 1901, how does this equate to nuclear weapons going off and planes falling from the skies? | Oct 10 23:45 |
| schestowitz | planes did fall from the sky | Oct 10 23:45 |
| schestowitz | the following year | Oct 10 23:45 |
| _Goblin | See MS can't even get the y2k bug right. | Oct 10 23:45 |
| schestowitz | to cover up explosives, msb alleges | Oct 10 23:45 |
| _Goblin | That was a joke wasn't it? | Oct 10 23:46 |
| schestowitz | yes | Oct 10 23:46 |
| _Goblin | no i mean MSB;s theories? | Oct 10 23:46 |
| schestowitz | if I want to demolish a building I order 4 plane crashes... | Oct 10 23:46 |
| DaemonFC | well, here's another wonderful thing about 64-bit systems and XFS | Oct 10 23:46 |
| schestowitz | as a decoy :-) | Oct 10 23:47 |
| DaemonFC | my computer will accurately keep and record dates well past the year 10,000 | Oct 10 23:47 |
| _Goblin | yep...makes perfect sense | Oct 10 23:47 |
| DaemonFC | I assume that will suffice | Oct 10 23:47 |
| schestowitz | hmm. maybe 5 | Oct 10 23:47 |
| schestowitz | na, 4 will do | Oct 10 23:47 |
| schestowitz | or 3 planes | Oct 10 23:47 |
| schestowitz | because... | Oct 10 23:47 |
| _Goblin | roy, meant to say, Ive been here as a decoy.....posting for the last 3 years as part of an elaborate plan to bring down Techrights.... | Oct 10 23:47 |
| schestowitz | according to some | Oct 10 23:48 |
| msb | IT would take days to implant the explosives, and all the peripheral inner walls would have to be torn out. No way arabs could be blamed for that. | Oct 10 23:48 |
| schestowitz | the pentagon was only hit by a cruising missile | Oct 10 23:48 |
| schestowitz | allegedly :-) | Oct 10 23:48 |
| _Goblin | Did it have a red tip? | Oct 10 23:48 |
| koolhead17 | w00t who is hitting them? | Oct 10 23:48 |
| _Goblin | I always imagine missles to have red tips... | Oct 10 23:48 |
| schestowitz | msb: the crashers did have motivstion for attack | Oct 10 23:48 |
| DaemonFC | I'll repent in 7,989 years | Oct 10 23:49 |
| _Goblin | and a little smiling face on it with a logo saying "This will fool them all" | Oct 10 23:49 |
| schestowitz | the US doesn't need to aggravate some of them | Oct 10 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | just in case | Oct 10 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | Y10K | Oct 10 23:49 |
| schestowitz | The radicals were drooling at the idea | Oct 10 23:49 |
| schestowitz | USS Cole hit... was that too a false-flag op? | Oct 10 23:49 |
| msb | The explosives were implanted when the towers were built. There's a video showing that. | Oct 10 23:49 |
| _Goblin | yep....I predict that in the year 40k, all computers of this generation will no longer work. | Oct 10 23:49 |
| schestowitz | And if not, then we know there was motivation to attack the US occupiers | Oct 10 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: What I want to know is why did the US government let the Jews cover up their attack on USS Liberty | Oct 10 23:49 |
| schestowitz | And it's not hard to see why, they perceive the US as an imperialist nation that steals from them | Oct 10 23:50 |
| msb | Only the detonators had to be put in just before 911. | Oct 10 23:50 |
| schestowitz | That doesn't legitimise their actions though | Oct 10 23:50 |
| schestowitz | by whom? | Oct 10 23:50 |
| msb | Israel exerts a lot of control over the US govt. | Oct 10 23:50 |
| schestowitz | I doubt it | Oct 10 23:50 |
| schestowitz | Israel is very weak | Oct 10 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident | Oct 10 23:50 |
| _Goblin | so then you've answered your own question from earlier MSB, when you were asking about how they would get the towers down without the plane cover story. | Oct 10 23:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: USS Liberty incident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 190.85 KB | Oct 10 23:50 |
| schestowitz | Zionist might have influence | Oct 10 23:50 |
| schestowitz | Israel is very feeble | Oct 10 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | "The USS Liberty incident was an attack on a United States Navy technical research ship, USS Liberty, by Israeli Air Force jet fighter aircraft and Israeli Navy torpedo boats, on June 8, 1967" | Oct 10 23:51 |
| schestowitz | it's like a little colony maintained and funded minimally by rich Zionists | Oct 10 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | followed by a cover up | Oct 10 23:51 |
| msb | That;'s how they demolished the towers (plus the thermite below ground). | Oct 10 23:51 |
| _Goblin | Unless you live within striking distance of its payload or armor. | Oct 10 23:51 |
| schestowitz | To blame a tiny nation for 9/11 is laughable at best | Oct 10 23:51 |
| msb | But how would arabs be blamed for it without the planes? | Oct 10 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | see, the jews launch an unprovoked attack on the United States | Oct 10 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | we do nothing | Oct 10 23:52 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: exported by supporters of it | Oct 10 23:52 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: be fair Roy....Have you seen Rambo 3? They took on the Russians...with help from the USA of course. | Oct 10 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | the arabs do it, we invade two countries | Oct 10 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | kill thousands | Oct 10 23:52 |
| schestowitz | They don't make helicopters or anything | Oct 10 23:52 |
| schestowitz | The US taxpayers pay for a lot of it | Oct 10 23:52 |
| msb | kill millions | Oct 10 23:52 |
| schestowitz | For this outpost | Oct 10 23:52 |
| schestowitz | Egypt too | Oct 10 23:52 |
| schestowitz | Largely funded by the US with puppets included in the price (Mubarak) | Oct 10 23:53 |
| msb | outpost in the middle of most of Earth's oil | Oct 10 23:53 |
| schestowitz | the Earth has more than that though | Oct 10 23:53 |
| schestowitz | Lots of oil in Africa | Oct 10 23:53 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: Funny old world we live in....First they assist in removing the Russians....now the USA relies on Russia to get them to the international space station and they now invade (with help from us) like the Russians did. | Oct 10 23:53 |
| schestowitz | Niger Delta | Oct 10 23:53 |
| schestowitz | And in south America | Oct 10 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | personally I think we should cut our ties with the arabs and the israelis | Oct 10 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | and let the chips fall where they may | Oct 10 23:54 |
| schestowitz | I think only about 30% of the world's oil comes from the mE | Oct 10 23:54 |
| msb | Israel is not feeble. It has 300 to 400 nuclear warheads, and the missiles, subs, and bombers to deliver them. | Oct 10 23:54 |
| DaemonFC | fuck em | Oct 10 23:54 |
| schestowitz | But I'd have to recheck figure | Oct 10 23:54 |
| schestowitz | And that's just oil, not gas and other energy forms | Oct 10 23:54 |
| _Goblin | DaemonFC: Remember to keep friendly with the Russians though....you remember them? the ones the USA made so many movies about? | Oct 10 23:54 |
| schestowitz | msb: but that's all it is | Oct 10 23:54 |
| schestowitz | like an outpost | Oct 10 23:54 |
| DaemonFC | I don't take sides like the radical right and radical left do | Oct 10 23:54 |
| schestowitz | korea also has many weapons | Oct 10 23:54 |
| DaemonFC | Pat Robertson says support Israel | Oct 10 23:54 |
| DaemonFC | and then RMS is a bleeding heart for the "Palestinians" | Oct 10 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | and I don't give a shit about either one | Oct 10 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | let them blow each other up so they'll quit bothering us | Oct 10 23:55 |
| _Goblin | maybe its apathy that allows our two countries to run rampant across the planet with our "vision" of what society should be. | Oct 10 23:55 |
| msb | The Palestinians were in Palestine for 2,000 years. | Oct 10 23:55 |
| schestowitz | The evangelists are on that fence | Oct 10 23:55 |
| schestowitz | evangelics even | Oct 10 23:55 |
| schestowitz | Fox News... | Oct 10 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | I hate both of them | Oct 10 23:56 |
| schestowitz | Remember who runs Fox | Oct 10 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not discriminating :) | Oct 10 23:56 |
| _Goblin | I don't hate anything.... | Oct 10 23:56 |
| _Goblin | not even Ballmer. | Oct 10 23:56 |
| _Goblin | oh hang on... | Oct 10 23:56 |
| _Goblin | I hate sprouts. | Oct 10 23:56 |
| msb | Please go to takingaimradio.com and read the Hidden History of Zionism. | Oct 10 23:56 |
| _Goblin | isn't that a contradiction? | Oct 10 23:57 |
| _Goblin | how can it be hidden if you can read it? | Oct 10 23:57 |
| msb | Most people don't know about the details. | Oct 10 23:58 |
| DaemonFC | if there's two people left on the planet and one of them is a Muslim, there will be war | Oct 10 23:58 |
| msb | Zionism is Jewish fascism. | Oct 10 23:58 |
| _Goblin | shouldn't that be, "the previously hidden but now readable history" | Oct 10 23:58 |
| schestowitz | msb: poor definition imho | Oct 10 23:58 |
| msb | Why don;t you read it instead of yakking uselessly about it. | Oct 10 23:59 |
| schestowitz | it's more like radical identity | Oct 10 23:59 |
| schestowitz | a bit less to do with political orientation | Oct 10 23:59 |
| _Goblin | because I'm making an observation, that something can't be hidden if you can read about it... | Oct 10 23:59 |
| schestowitz | fascism is just some loaded term | Oct 10 23:59 |
| DaemonFC | fascist | Oct 10 23:59 |
| DaemonFC | neofascist | Oct 10 23:59 |
| _Goblin | and I don't take education advice from a 9-11 conspiracy theorist in IRC. | Oct 10 23:59 |
| DaemonFC | you cryptofascist you! | Oct 10 23:59 |
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