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schestowitz | _Goblin: me checks | Oct 12 00:02 |
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schestowitz | openbytes.tk | Oct 12 00:02 |
*schestowitz cheers | Oct 12 00:03 | |
schestowitz | looks great | Oct 12 00:03 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat's Open-Source Software Lowers Costs http://is.gd/OE5YP8 #redhat | Oct 12 00:03 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] art is any expression of creativity; the digital medium is just a different canvas on which an artist creates. | Oct 12 00:03 | |
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schestowitz | Susan will like it | Oct 12 00:04 |
schestowitz | Cowboy hat.. Texas | Oct 12 00:04 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @vanden @gomerx No. Sushi is the sacrement in my vegetarianism mandating religion. Ergo, fish is a vegetable. No odder than transubst ... | Oct 12 00:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @johnfmoore !GovInTheLab Is the German Government Hacking its Own Citizens? http://bit.ly/nLK8Ai | Oct 12 00:05 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] OPENBYTES: Pearltrees – A link sharing service – rediscover the web! http://goo.gl/jIwgr | Oct 12 00:07 | |
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schestowitz | Interesting article about RMS, not that I agree with it. http://www.forbes.com/sites/briancaulfield/2011/10/10/leave-it-to-richard-stallman-to-go-there/ | Oct 12 00:11 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Leave It To Richard Stallman To Go There - Forbes .::. Size~: 98.94 KB | Oct 12 00:11 |
schestowitz | It's written quite cleanly | Oct 12 00:11 |
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schestowitz | [00:15] <schestowitz> michaellarabel: some people do not like the message (e.g. about ubuntu speeds), so they'll attack the messenger using anything they can, thus you've got to be careful with those words, IMHO. I just tell you how I see these exploited, not my own interpretation of them. | Oct 12 00:15 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'm really tired tonight and with no good reason for it. I hate that feeling :( | Oct 12 00:15 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'm really tired tonight and with no good reason for it. I hate that feeling :( http://b1t.it/Hhj | Oct 12 00:15 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Indian Supreme Court Switches Over To Ubuntu; So Should USA http://ur1.ca/5d0js nice image | Oct 12 00:15 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 12 00:15 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Today's !InconstantMoon chapter is now online http://ur1.ca/5dlew !SelfPub | Oct 12 00:20 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Red Hat's Open-Source Software Lowers Costs http://ur1.ca/5dlfb #redhat #gnu #linux #business #crisis | Oct 12 00:20 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] It is now raining #tothepointweatherreport | Oct 12 00:20 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] My 1 comment on @rms #Jobs thing: do people realize a) he was quoting Harold #Washington on death of elder #Daley, b) who they were? #smh | Oct 12 00:25 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google+ audience mostly male http://is.gd/m8wInI it is said to be the same with Android (maybe not anymore) | Oct 12 00:25 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @johnfmoore !GovInTheLab Is the German Government Hacking its Own Citizens? http://bit.ly/nLK8Ai | Oct 12 00:26 | |
schestowitz | How the corporate press defames protesters: photos of anarchy, scenes of violence/looting, police/army glorification... | Oct 12 00:26 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] How To Find Out If Your Computer Can Run Unity 3D (w/ Compiz) http://ur1.ca/5dlig #compiz #unity #hardware #3d | Oct 12 00:35 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] WineHQ database compromised http://ur1.ca/5dll2 | Oct 12 00:38 | |
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DaemonFC | schestowitz: What does looting a privately owned shop have to do with protesting the government? :) | Oct 12 00:39 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Attention IOWA: CHILD ABDUCTION EMERGENCY - http://b1t.it/Hhp via @jimmorgan | Oct 12 00:41 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @neptune78 No overnight arrests of “Occupy Des Moines” protesters: http://tinyurl.com/3jphom9 #IOWA | Oct 12 00:41 | |
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schestowitz | [00:42] <schestowitz> hi | Oct 12 00:44 |
schestowitz | [00:44] <schestowitz> michaellarabel: was basically trying to say, I still defend phoronix when people bring up these criticisms. I'm used to seeing messengers--myself included--attacked for delivering the message, not the message itself | Oct 12 00:44 |
schestowitz | [00:44] <michaellarabel> right I understand | Oct 12 00:44 |
schestowitz | [00:44] <schestowitz> ok | Oct 12 00:44 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux on Wheels http://ur1.ca/5dloy | Oct 12 00:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] dear identica and twitter, stop shortening our urls, we don't want them shortened. the url is the message. | Oct 12 00:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] and yes, our profile is configured with "none" url shortener for messages up to 140 chars. | Oct 12 00:45 | |
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schestowitz | http://twitter.com/laurelrusswurm/status/123905178666668032?iid=am-203724525013183762716550340&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208 | Oct 12 00:49 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @laurelrusswurm: @schestowitz That's interesting, Roy. My subjective anecdotal fact-free assessment is that Facebook is more female driven. | Oct 12 00:49 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Woman Who Knew Too Much | Politics | Vanity Fair - #bankingsystem #obama #USA http://goo.gl/xflFd | Oct 12 00:58 | |
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schestowitz | Was Steve Jobs An Inspiration For College Students? http://www.muktware.com/blogs/2625 self-centered, rich | Oct 12 01:08 |
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schestowitz | r. Jobs | Oct 12 01:08 |
schestowitz | So kind | Oct 12 01:08 |
schestowitz | So patient | Oct 12 01:08 |
schestowitz | We should worship him | Oct 12 01:08 |
_Goblin | Hey......a record for me.... | Oct 12 01:08 |
_Goblin | 01:07:43 up 17:31, 3 users, load average: 0.86, 0.71, 0.47 | Oct 12 01:08 |
schestowitz | Based on this, he is a prick | Oct 12 01:08 |
schestowitz | And he also had that ogg remark | Oct 12 01:08 |
schestowitz | Quick messages that are hostile | Oct 12 01:08 |
schestowitz | _Goblin: the whole day :-) | Oct 12 01:08 |
schestowitz | let's see techrights | Oct 12 01:09 |
_Goblin | lol | Oct 12 01:09 |
schestowitz | techrights boycottn]# uptime | Oct 12 01:09 |
schestowitz | 17:09:00 up 68 days, 1:40, 2 users, load average: 1.57, 1.33, 1.43 | Oct 12 01:09 |
schestowitz | those times when the site does not serve are associated with apache | Oct 12 01:09 |
_Goblin | right....how do I pipe that info in bash to a variable...... I'm being thick tonight... | Oct 12 01:09 |
_Goblin | uptime > $tim doesnt work... | Oct 12 01:10 |
schestowitz | cut? | Oct 12 01:10 |
_Goblin | I am assuming its an array of data not merely a string... | Oct 12 01:10 |
_Goblin | there must be a way to put it into $tim, then with Curl I could cron a dent. | Oct 12 01:11 |
schestowitz | uptime | cut -b 1-6 | Oct 12 01:11 |
schestowitz | see man cut | Oct 12 01:11 |
schestowitz | you can specifiy delimiter | Oct 12 01:11 |
schestowitz | and use bytes/characters | Oct 12 01:12 |
schestowitz | then pipe that into a file, site, web page, etc. | Oct 12 01:12 |
_Goblin | I'll give it a look....cheers! | Oct 12 01:12 |
schestowitz | you could cron that | Oct 12 01:12 |
schestowitz | use the right quote signs | Oct 12 01:12 |
_Goblin | it just seems a rather convoluted way to do something quite simple.... | Oct 12 01:12 |
schestowitz | to run a command within the cron which specified the curl command | Oct 12 01:12 |
_Goblin | I'm out of practice with the CLI | Oct 12 01:12 |
schestowitz | but what for? automated uptime report? | Oct 12 01:12 |
_Goblin | for fun.... | Oct 12 01:13 |
schestowitz | you could set up an account that does nothing but report uptime of your site | Oct 12 01:13 |
schestowitz | and then subscribe to that on your phone | Oct 12 01:13 |
schestowitz | [01:12] <_Goblin> I'm out of practice with the CLI | Oct 12 01:14 |
schestowitz | DIR /W | Oct 12 01:14 |
_Goblin | lo | Oct 12 01:14 |
_Goblin | lol | Oct 12 01:14 |
schestowitz | DELTREE PROGRA~1 | Oct 12 01:14 |
schestowitz | DEFRAG.EXE | Oct 12 01:14 |
_Goblin | a windowed directory if memory served as in horizontal not vertical | Oct 12 01:14 |
schestowitz | D: | Oct 12 01:14 |
schestowitz | meh | Oct 12 01:14 |
_Goblin | one decent MS binary though... | Oct 12 01:14 |
_Goblin | debug | Oct 12 01:14 |
schestowitz | :D :-) | Oct 12 01:14 |
schestowitz | silly letters | Oct 12 01:15 |
schestowitz | Using Windows is like going back to being 1 year old | Oct 12 01:15 |
schestowitz | A B C.... it's simple lik 12 3 | Oct 12 01:15 |
schestowitz | What's A, mummy? | Oct 12 01:15 |
schestowitz | It's that drive you never use | Oct 12 01:15 |
schestowitz | And what's B? | Oct 12 01:15 |
schestowitz | Oh, it's some magnetic thing | Oct 12 01:15 |
_Goblin | mind you...before that i had: | Oct 12 01:15 |
_Goblin | df0: | Oct 12 01:15 |
_Goblin | and df1: | Oct 12 01:15 |
cubezzz | haha | Oct 12 01:15 |
schestowitz | Just use C | Oct 12 01:15 |
schestowitz | :-) | Oct 12 01:15 |
schestowitz | That'sm intuitive | Oct 12 01:15 |
cubezzz | does a: and b: ever get used now? | Oct 12 01:16 |
schestowitz | remember to shut down when you're ffinished... click "start" | Oct 12 01:16 |
cubezzz | on amiga we didn't need deltree | Oct 12 01:16 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: nope | Oct 12 01:16 |
cubezzz | delete would delete subdirectories as needed | Oct 12 01:16 |
schestowitz | it's legacy | Oct 12 01:16 |
schestowitz | maybe C too will be legacy :-) | Oct 12 01:16 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Financial Giants Put New York City Cops On Their Payroll » Counterpunch - #usa #ows #policestate #bankingsystem http://goo.gl/JjInh | Oct 12 01:16 | |
schestowitz | just network drives | Oct 12 01:16 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Financial Giants Put New York City Cops On Their Payroll » Counterpunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names .::. Size~: 50.71 KB | Oct 12 01:16 |
schestowitz | until they reach Z :-) | Oct 12 01:16 |
schestowitz | then it's messy | Oct 12 01:16 |
schestowitz | and no names for these partitions or virtual mount points | Oct 12 01:17 |
schestowitz | what's simpler? | Oct 12 01:17 |
schestowitz | : | Oct 12 01:17 |
schestowitz | :: | Oct 12 01:17 |
cubezzz | how do they deal with more than 26 devices? | Oct 12 01:17 |
schestowitz | John needs to access drive Z, move some stuff to drive G, then back to drive Z and then to E | Oct 12 01:17 |
schestowitz | or: | Oct 12 01:17 |
_Goblin | you think a MS machine could deal with 26? It has difficulty with 1 most of the time. | Oct 12 01:17 |
schestowitz | John needed o get some stuff from /logs/, then put them in /media/log_backups, make a copy in /home/john and put that again in /logs/ | Oct 12 01:18 |
cubezzz | M$ is so pre-21st century :)\ | Oct 12 01:18 |
schestowitz | I think the former thing is s cryptic version of the first | Oct 12 01:18 |
_Goblin | oh Roy.... | Oct 12 01:18 |
_Goblin | meant to say..... | Oct 12 01:18 |
_Goblin | Google DNS has been taken out of my resolv.conf | Oct 12 01:18 |
_Goblin | its crap | Oct 12 01:18 |
schestowitz | cool | Oct 12 01:19 |
_Goblin | (technical term there - crap) | Oct 12 01:19 |
cubezzz | why is that? | Oct 12 01:19 |
schestowitz | maybe lag | Oct 12 01:19 |
schestowitz | maybe BT competes for response time | Oct 12 01:19 |
cubezzz | if you ISP's dns server goes down it serves as an alternative | Oct 12 01:19 |
schestowitz | BT wants you to use their dns, _Goblin | Oct 12 01:19 |
schestowitz | PHORM!!! | Oct 12 01:19 |
_Goblin | lag was one issue....and some bizarre paranoia inducing wierd behaviour... | Oct 12 01:19 |
schestowitz | To inPHORM Cameron | Oct 12 01:19 |
_Goblin | BT can want all day.....I'm with o2 | Oct 12 01:20 |
schestowitz | When you watch those naughty videos of turtles doing it | Oct 12 01:20 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @torproject You can choose to turn off the URL shortener on Identi.ca - don't think it is possible on Twitter though | Oct 12 01:20 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Tried out #clawsmail after a long time. Seg fault. | Oct 12 01:20 | |
cubezzz | if only there was a free world-wide internet service | Oct 12 01:20 |
_Goblin | there was... | Oct 12 01:21 |
_Goblin | sort of. | Oct 12 01:21 |
_Goblin | it was called fidonet | Oct 12 01:21 |
schestowitz | there could be open wireless | Oct 12 01:21 |
schestowitz | but govt. won't allow it | Oct 12 01:21 |
schestowitz | no cdentralised control | Oct 12 01:21 |
schestowitz | the only open wireless is allow is the scope of a home | Oct 12 01:21 |
cubezzz | I think fidonet still exists? | Oct 12 01:21 |
schestowitz | now they illegalise open wifii too!! | Oct 12 01:21 |
_Goblin | Yeah....not like it days of glory though | Oct 12 01:21 |
schestowitz | Think fot he children... and OMG the TERROR~1!! | Oct 12 01:21 |
_Goblin | cubezzz: I messed around with an idea of a BBS for a while.... | Oct 12 01:22 |
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_Goblin | I think Marti set one up. | Oct 12 01:22 |
cubezzz | there's something else... trying to remember... | Oct 12 01:22 |
schestowitz | yeah, he did | Oct 12 01:22 |
_Goblin | not sure if its still going.... | Oct 12 01:22 |
cubezzz | oh right, AX.25 | Oct 12 01:22 |
schestowitz | cubezzz is more ancient than that :-) | Oct 12 01:22 |
_Goblin | I did visit more than once I think.... | Oct 12 01:22 |
schestowitz | cubezzz would pass cards around | Oct 12 01:22 |
_Goblin | thats nothing.... | Oct 12 01:22 |
cubezzz | come on, I'm from the mini-cassette era, not punched cards :) | Oct 12 01:23 |
_Goblin | I was there when they made the Bagdad battery | Oct 12 01:23 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: show us that ol' skool IBM DJ... | Oct 12 01:23 |
_Goblin | ;) | Oct 12 01:23 |
*cubezzz groves to his 8-track | Oct 12 01:23 | |
schestowitz | DJ Mega | Oct 12 01:23 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Either Identi.ca is running Über-Slow or everyone is off watching a hockey game or soccer match.... | Oct 12 01:23 | |
schestowitz | A whole megabyte in ONE ROOM | Oct 12 01:23 |
schestowitz | think of the possibilities | Oct 12 01:24 |
cubezzz | http://maxhost.org/other/computer/computer-room-1.jpg | Oct 12 01:24 |
schestowitz | a whole THESIS on your desk | Oct 12 01:24 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Oct 12 01:24 |
cubezzz | I even have the URL memorized :) | Oct 12 01:24 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: wrong image | Oct 12 01:24 |
schestowitz | that's the athlete | Oct 12 01:24 |
schestowitz | discus thrower | Oct 12 01:24 |
cubezzz | washing machine :) | Oct 12 01:24 |
schestowitz | both | Oct 12 01:25 |
schestowitz | he finished practice | Oct 12 01:25 |
schestowitz | he organises his gear in the rack | Oct 12 01:25 |
cubezzz | that's when front panels were king | Oct 12 01:25 |
schestowitz | srly though, show this to some kid from the ghetto and see if they can figure out what this is | Oct 12 01:25 |
schestowitz | they grow up in a world of phones and sd cards | Oct 12 01:25 |
cubezzz | anyone that watches old sci-fi would know | Oct 12 01:26 |
schestowitz | yeah | Oct 12 01:26 |
schestowitz | this guy has Elvis-like hair style | Oct 12 01:26 |
schestowitz | it's kind of funny | Oct 12 01:26 |
cubezzz | I'm not really that pro-IBM | Oct 12 01:28 |
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cubezzz | but it's impossible to ignore IBM when it comes to computer history | Oct 12 01:28 |
schestowitz | these people were clever | Oct 12 01:30 |
schestowitz | same brain capacity | Oct 12 01:30 |
schestowitz | but they could read instructions | Oct 12 01:30 |
schestowitz | and speak about computer architeecture | Oct 12 01:30 |
schestowitz | nowadays people think in higher-level terms | Oct 12 01:30 |
schestowitz | classes | Oct 12 01:30 |
schestowitz | objects | Oct 12 01:30 |
schestowitz | MMUs | Oct 12 01:31 |
schestowitz | SSD | Oct 12 01:31 |
schestowitz | Not magnets | Oct 12 01:31 |
schestowitz | bits | Oct 12 01:31 |
schestowitz | small/big endian | Oct 12 01:31 |
schestowitz | register bits and instruction bits | Oct 12 01:31 |
cubezzz | hang out in #classiccmp | Oct 12 01:31 |
schestowitz | CRC | Oct 12 01:31 |
cubezzz | there's lots of people like that | Oct 12 01:31 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: no, thanks :-) that would scare me | Oct 12 01:31 |
schestowitz | I'm already in about 15 channels | Oct 12 01:31 |
cubezzz | z80 and 6502 aren't hard | Oct 12 01:32 |
schestowitz | [17:28] <netdaemon> richard stallman is a hippy | Oct 12 01:32 |
schestowitz | [17:28] <netdaemon> hippies don't matter | Oct 12 01:32 |
schestowitz | RMS got a lot of traffic in his site I bet | Oct 12 01:32 |
schestowitz | after that Jobs remark | Oct 12 01:32 |
schestowitz | so people would hang around and read the rest | Oct 12 01:32 |
cubezzz | yes, no doubt | Oct 12 01:32 |
schestowitz | he also got a lot of publicity from people taking his words out of context | Oct 12 01:33 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: Very useful collection of statements/explanations/examples about #opendata http://t.co/VJBaopwm courtesy of http://p.ost.im/p/e6UWTf | Oct 12 01:33 | |
schestowitz | people who understand him took no offence | Oct 12 01:33 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 12 01:33 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 12 01:33 |
schestowitz | but.. | Oct 12 01:33 |
schestowitz | it's good that we put the record straight | Oct 12 01:33 |
schestowitz | in techbytes too, in order to remove misinterpretations | Oct 12 01:33 |
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schestowitz | preventing from assigning false positions to him | Oct 12 01:33 |
schestowitz | it's funny when people attack techrights | Oct 12 01:33 |
schestowitz | in a way they advertise it | Oct 12 01:34 |
schestowitz | same when some people trolled techbytes | Oct 12 01:34 |
schestowitz | and then got people listening to it | Oct 12 01:34 |
schestowitz | some listen regularly now | Oct 12 01:34 |
_Goblin | schestowitz: there will always be misinterpretations because they are intentional..... | Oct 12 01:34 |
cubezzz | negative publicity is still publicity | Oct 12 01:34 |
_Goblin | yep... | Oct 12 01:35 |
_Goblin | although it hasn't done MS much good | Oct 12 01:35 |
_Goblin | infact negative publicity has just further driven people to other products. | Oct 12 01:35 |
cubezzz | I'm trying to think of something positive about Microsoft | Oct 12 01:35 |
_Goblin | debug | Oct 12 01:36 |
_Goblin | thats something positive... | Oct 12 01:36 |
_Goblin | ms flightsim.....that was good | Oct 12 01:36 |
cubezzz | bah, x86 instruction set | Oct 12 01:36 |
_Goblin | Ballmers dance...that was good | Oct 12 01:36 |
schestowitz | _Goblin: didn't ms buy it? | Oct 12 01:36 |
_Goblin | oh, but it was so simple to use.... | Oct 12 01:36 |
schestowitz | or parts of it.. | Oct 12 01:37 |
_Goblin | schestowitz: what the balmer dance? ;) | Oct 12 01:37 |
_Goblin | schestowitz: probably. | Oct 12 01:37 |
schestowitz | !google microsoft buys flight simulator | Oct 12 01:37 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Amazon.com: Microsoft Flight Simulator X Deluxe DVD: Video Games | http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Flight-Simulator-Deluxe-DVD-Pc/dp/B000GCJ6MK | Oct 12 01:37 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Microsoft Store Online - Microsoft Flight Simulator X Deluxe Edition ... | http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msstore/en_US/pd/productID.216458100 | Oct 12 01:37 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Microsoft Flight Simulator X Review - PC Games - CNET Reviews | http://reviews.cnet.com/pc-games/microsoft-flight-simulator-x/4505-9696_7-31660767.html | Oct 12 01:37 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Walmart.com: Microsoft Flight Simulator X Deluxe (PC-DVD): Games | http://www.walmart.com/ip/Microsoft-Flight-Simulator-X-Deluxe-PC-DVD-PC-Games/5065288 | Oct 12 01:37 |
schestowitz | let me check this properly | Oct 12 01:37 |
schestowitz | btw they killed it | Oct 12 01:37 |
cubezzz | another thing they bought | Oct 12 01:37 |
schestowitz | years ago | Oct 12 01:37 |
_Goblin | yeah I know | Oct 12 01:37 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: probably | Oct 12 01:37 |
_Goblin | I discussed it in MS Watch around 2008 | Oct 12 01:37 |
cubezzz | that's all microsoft ever did was buy the work of others | Oct 12 01:37 |
cubezzz | even MS DOS | Oct 12 01:37 |
schestowitz | doesn't sound like something that would mushroom in an OEM abuse, marketing and litigation company | Oct 12 01:37 |
cubezzz | even BASIC | Oct 12 01:37 |
schestowitz | not much room for creativity there | Oct 12 01:37 |
schestowitz | they bought Halo | Oct 12 01:38 |
_Goblin | I think they bought it and the company, then continued development on add-ons | Oct 12 01:38 |
_Goblin | yep... | Oct 12 01:38 |
schestowitz | Google does something similar | Oct 12 01:38 |
DaemonFC | the only reason Halo (the first one) got a Mac port was because it was basically done when they bought it | Oct 12 01:38 |
schestowitz | although it does make its own sometimes | Oct 12 01:38 |
schestowitz | g+ was probably making reuse of stuff but was not a takeover | Oct 12 01:38 |
schestowitz | Google chat=gizmo | Oct 12 01:38 |
schestowitz | earth=keyhole | Oct 12 01:39 |
cubezzz | oh and they used PDP-10 time... stolen | Oct 12 01:39 |
schestowitz | gmail-in-house | Oct 12 01:39 |
cubezzz | to write BASIC | Oct 12 01:39 |
schestowitz | search=raison detre | Oct 12 01:39 |
_Goblin | Ive yet to see an implimentation of the wave tech pop up somewhere. | Oct 12 01:39 |
DaemonFC | the second one won't even run without at least Vista (unless you patch it to remove the bogus checks to see if it's on Vista) | Oct 12 01:39 |
schestowitz | android=buyout | Oct 12 01:39 |
DaemonFC | nothing in it actually needs Vista | Oct 12 01:39 |
schestowitz | not Google's | Oct 12 01:39 |
schestowitz | like dangr/sidekick in MSFT | Oct 12 01:39 |
DaemonFC | they were trying to use it as a carrot to get XP users to give up and install Vista | Oct 12 01:39 |
DaemonFC | :) | Oct 12 01:39 |
schestowitz | at google, gmail and search seem like something they really bought | Oct 12 01:39 |
schestowitz | but maybe Google bought some improvements to them over time | Oct 12 01:40 |
schestowitz | like parts that gmail integrates with, like the Apps part which is basically bought | Oct 12 01:40 |
cubezzz | ha, install Vista | Oct 12 01:40 |
cubezzz | I've seen windows 7 | Oct 12 01:40 |
schestowitz | [01:39] <_Goblin> Ive yet to see an implimentation of the wave tech pop up somewhere. | Oct 12 01:40 |
schestowitz | Wave was not the first | Oct 12 01:40 |
_Goblin | I know... | Oct 12 01:40 |
schestowitz | Google was rarely the first with aNYTHING | Oct 12 01:40 |
schestowitz | either itn bought something | Oct 12 01:41 |
_Goblin | you have that pastebin...or something similar can't think of its name | Oct 12 01:41 |
schestowitz | or it popularised something | Oct 12 01:41 |
_Goblin | no...it wasn't pastebin | Oct 12 01:41 |
schestowitz | same with apple | Oct 12 01:41 |
schestowitz | almost no company innovates | Oct 12 01:41 |
_Goblin | I'll have to look... | Oct 12 01:41 |
cubezzz | the PDP-10 was owned by Computer Center Corporation | Oct 12 01:41 |
schestowitz | cause innovations are micro-improvements of other things | Oct 12 01:41 |
schestowitz | in practice | Oct 12 01:41 |
cubezzz | stealing computer time from CCC | Oct 12 01:41 |
schestowitz | there is no genius | Oct 12 01:41 |
schestowitz | just the illusion of some | Oct 12 01:41 |
schestowitz | I don't think any person or company is genius | Oct 12 01:42 |
cubezzz | the GPL? | Oct 12 01:42 |
cubezzz | that's up there | Oct 12 01:42 |
schestowitz | Einstein too had his many flaws, but he became a symbol among some | Oct 12 01:42 |
schestowitz | they were good at mastering the lieterature of their time and enhancing existing knowledge | Oct 12 01:42 |
schestowitz | some Nobel prize winners are like that | Oct 12 01:42 |
schestowitz | and IIRC there was also an 'arms race' over things like the phone, bomb, airplane, the Bomb | Oct 12 01:43 |
schestowitz | so if one person didn't 'innovate' these, they would be 'innovated' by someone else the following year or a few years later | Oct 12 01:43 |
schestowitz | The pieces were all in place | Oct 12 01:43 |
schestowitz | dependign what milestone you celebrate | Oct 12 01:43 |
cubezzz | Gutenberg | Oct 12 01:44 |
schestowitz | Maybe if Eintein hadn't developed his theory of relativity, others of his time (like Godel) would have approached the subject | Oct 12 01:44 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: wasn't he beated to it by the Chinese? | Oct 12 01:44 |
schestowitz | Just unattributed | Oct 12 01:44 |
schestowitz | The "New World" also beat us to it in some things | Oct 12 01:45 |
schestowitz | like Incann on astronomy | Oct 12 01:45 |
schestowitz | we like to compre them to Peru now | Oct 12 01:45 |
schestowitz | And so we cannot fathom the fact they were smart | Oct 12 01:45 |
schestowitz | Or how about astronomy in Iraq? | Oct 12 01:45 |
schestowitz | or the Baghdad battery? | Oct 12 01:45 |
_Goblin | :) | Oct 12 01:45 |
schestowitz | Because the West dominates now, we indoctrinate our children | Oct 12 01:46 |
schestowitz | We teach them the establishments after the insddustrial revolutions | Oct 12 01:46 |
schestowitz | Because prior to that it's embarassing | Oct 12 01:46 |
schestowitz | But in Egypt they show kids the pyramid | Oct 12 01:46 |
_Goblin | schestowitz: after looking further at that (the bagdad battery) I'm thinking its more likely that it was used to decorate jewelry | Oct 12 01:46 |
schestowitz | Pride of that generation | Oct 12 01:46 |
schestowitz | And each has its own wwarped world view | Oct 12 01:46 |
cubezzz | well you can't attribute too much to one person | Oct 12 01:47 |
schestowitz | to promote nationalism and self esteem tied to some group identity | Oct 12 01:47 |
cubezzz | I agree with that | Oct 12 01:47 |
schestowitz | except Jobs :-) | Oct 12 01:47 |
schestowitz | He invented all | Oct 12 01:47 |
schestowitz | In one was.. he was... | Oct 12 01:47 |
schestowitz | "Cool" | Oct 12 01:47 |
schestowitz | "Magic" | Oct 12 01:47 |
cubezzz | he invented the mouse evidently :-P | Oct 12 01:47 |
schestowitz | http://www.muktware.com/blogs/2625 | Oct 12 01:47 |
schestowitz | nice guy | Oct 12 01:47 |
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schestowitz | patient | Oct 12 01:48 |
schestowitz | man of the people | Oct 12 01:48 |
_Goblin | In answer to the above.....yes.... | Oct 12 01:48 |
cubezzz | Engelbart, Stallman, Torvalds, all significant | Oct 12 01:48 |
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_Goblin | lets be honest...who would not want to be as rich as Jobs? | Oct 12 01:48 |
cubezzz | 40K per year is fine | Oct 12 01:48 |
schestowitz | many | Oct 12 01:48 |
schestowitz | he was powerful | Oct 12 01:48 |
schestowitz | not just rich | Oct 12 01:48 |
schestowitz | at some stage you're not rich anymore | Oct 12 01:49 |
schestowitz | you can mobilise states | Oct 12 01:49 |
schestowitz | Then it's a game of power | Oct 12 01:49 |
_Goblin | but the inspiration could just be his lifestyle funded by his wealth. | Oct 12 01:49 |
schestowitz | you can buy any object you want | Oct 12 01:49 |
_Goblin | 40k per year is fine... | Oct 12 01:49 |
schestowitz | Maybe not countries, but objects (boats, planed) | Oct 12 01:49 |
schestowitz | but to contro, nations... | Oct 12 01:49 |
schestowitz | With armies worth trillions | Oct 12 01:49 |
cubezzz | but not all persue wealth | Oct 12 01:49 |
schestowitz | for that you need powr | Oct 12 01:49 |
cubezzz | Stallman is an obvious example | Oct 12 01:49 |
schestowitz | Gates is a power player now | Oct 12 01:49 |
_Goblin | but who can say they would turn down a job offer which would reward you the same as Jobs? | Oct 12 01:49 |
schestowitz | Running the edu system into the ground | Oct 12 01:49 |
schestowitz | and selling patents to poor people, at their children's expense | Oct 12 01:50 |
cubezzz | well would you work for Microsoft? | Oct 12 01:50 |
schestowitz | Jobs was only starting to become a power player | Oct 12 01:50 |
_Goblin | for the money jobs was on? | Oct 12 01:50 |
schestowitz | and he too went into Gates' power game | Oct 12 01:50 |
schestowitz | Like ins chools | Oct 12 01:50 |
schestowitz | I covered it last month | Oct 12 01:50 |
schestowitz | Rich people against the real education system | Oct 12 01:50 |
schestowitz | amking the kids uber-capitalists and more like ants | Oct 12 01:50 |
cubezzz | let's say they offer you $100K to be an anti-FOSS advocate | Oct 12 01:50 |
_Goblin | no.... | Oct 12 01:50 |
schestowitz | obvioiusly Jobs showed you can die early despite beign rich | Oct 12 01:51 |
_Goblin | whats that £50k? | Oct 12 01:51 |
schestowitz | That's my mom's first reacvtion | Oct 12 01:51 |
cubezzz | maybe a bit more | Oct 12 01:51 |
schestowitz | Stallman is almost 60 | Oct 12 01:51 |
schestowitz | I hope he lives for another 20 | Oct 12 01:51 |
_Goblin | thats not much more than what I earn now...and I love my jobn | Oct 12 01:51 |
_Goblin | *job | Oct 12 01:51 |
schestowitz | jobs | Oct 12 01:51 |
schestowitz | :-) | Oct 12 01:51 |
schestowitz | You know you love him :-) | Oct 12 01:51 |
schestowitz | Oh, yes you do !! | Oct 12 01:52 |
_Goblin | oh I do | Oct 12 01:52 |
schestowitz | :-) | Oct 12 01:52 |
_Goblin | mind you.... | Oct 12 01:52 |
cubezzz | nah, I never liked Apple | Oct 12 01:52 |
_Goblin | I was wearing those jumpers before him | Oct 12 01:52 |
schestowitz | [01:51] <_Goblin> thats not much more than what I earn now...and I love my jobn | Oct 12 01:52 |
schestowitz | Frist pass I read it I love my john | Oct 12 01:52 |
schestowitz | which would read like, I love my loo | Oct 12 01:52 |
_Goblin | Frist? | Oct 12 01:52 |
_Goblin | ;) | Oct 12 01:52 |
cubezzz | haha | Oct 12 01:52 |
_Goblin | "Judge not, lest ye be judged" ;) | Oct 12 01:53 |
schestowitz | and I though, what? | Oct 12 01:53 |
schestowitz | then I realised the type wasn't john but job | Oct 12 01:53 |
cubezzz | watch out for the blue loo of death though | Oct 12 01:53 |
schestowitz | *typo | Oct 12 01:53 |
cubezzz | it's scary | Oct 12 01:53 |
_Goblin | I like the typo you made the other night | Oct 12 01:53 |
schestowitz | Apple makes loo-compatible coloured devices | Oct 12 01:53 |
schestowitz | you can wach them with the same materials | Oct 12 01:53 |
schestowitz | maybe with the same brush | Oct 12 01:53 |
_Goblin | when you called him Steve Jobe....sort of giving him a biblical mantle. | Oct 12 01:53 |
schestowitz | it's all the same | Oct 12 01:53 |
schestowitz | Apple products and Johns... you need to look after them, clean them for the same reason, and watch out for explosions | Oct 12 01:55 |
schestowitz | Steve Java | Oct 12 01:55 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: Steve Jabba | Oct 12 01:55 |
schestowitz | 50 lashes | Oct 12 01:56 |
_Goblin | Right...I'm going to have a smoke...then I think I'll go to bed... | Oct 12 01:56 |
DaemonFC | he gets up from his layer to go take a shit and....thunderous applause? | Oct 12 01:56 |
DaemonFC | *lair | Oct 12 01:56 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Californians beware: @JerryBrownGov vetoes SB914. If you're arrested, cops can search your cell without a warrant https://eff.org/r.D6C #ows | Oct 12 01:56 | |
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_Goblin | an ish*t | Oct 12 01:56 |
schestowitz | lol | Oct 12 01:56 |
schestowitz | _Goblin: magic | Oct 12 01:57 |
schestowitz | HTC magic | Oct 12 01:57 |
_Goblin | Steve invented those you know Roy. | Oct 12 01:57 |
schestowitz | lol | Oct 12 01:57 |
schestowitz | didnt' apple sue them over it? | Oct 12 01:57 |
schestowitz | Trademark infringement | Oct 12 01:57 |
schestowitz | Jobs' vocabulary | Oct 12 01:57 |
DaemonFC | They should have called it the HTC Awesome so they could piss Jono off | Oct 12 01:57 |
_Goblin | you do know we'll all be damned for this in Usenet.... | Oct 12 01:58 |
schestowitz | maybe htc should pay $1 per phone sold to apple... for the NAME | Oct 12 01:58 |
schestowitz | It's a good word.. expensive | Oct 12 01:58 |
schestowitz | it removes the need for substance,... effective | Oct 12 01:58 |
schestowitz | "Why is your phone better?" | Oct 12 01:58 |
schestowitz | "can't 'xeplain, 'tis magic" | Oct 12 01:58 |
schestowitz | "Ohh..." | Oct 12 01:58 |
schestowitz | iSh*t4Ass | Oct 12 01:59 |
schestowitz | hypePhone4Ass | Oct 12 01:59 |
schestowitz | hypePhone4fingers | Oct 12 01:59 |
schestowitz | he fifth one impedes reception | Oct 12 01:59 |
_Goblin | Ive got an Apple joke but it will have to wait until pre-show... | Oct 12 01:59 |
_Goblin | because it can't be explained by text | Oct 12 02:00 |
_Goblin | you have to hear the accent to get it.... | Oct 12 02:00 |
schestowitz | yeah :-) | Oct 12 02:00 |
_Goblin | remind me next show | Oct 12 02:00 |
_Goblin | and for the benefit of COLA trolls......it doesn't involve Steve Jobs. | Oct 12 02:01 |
DaemonFC | http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=macs_cant | Oct 12 02:01 |
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_Goblin | flash? | Oct 12 02:01 |
_Goblin | afford to eat after buying it? | Oct 12 02:01 |
_Goblin | I suppose Windows users can write a letter of complaint directly to the CEO......Apple users can't at the moment. | Oct 12 02:02 |
schestowitz | apple users don't eat | Oct 12 02:02 |
schestowitz | they follow jobs' ways | Oct 12 02:03 |
schestowitz | he had a special diet | Oct 12 02:03 |
schestowitz | some zen idiocy | Oct 12 02:03 |
schestowitz | he thought it would remove the cancer maybe | Oct 12 02:03 |
schestowitz | so I;ve heard | Oct 12 02:03 |
schestowitz | some Buddha quack stuff.. | Oct 12 02:03 |
_Goblin | this is going to be so quoted on COLA. | Oct 12 02:03 |
schestowitz | What I heard is that he had a special diet | Oct 12 02:03 |
_Goblin | (and that was terrible English from me) | Oct 12 02:03 |
schestowitz | And that it was not the cancer causing it | Oct 12 02:03 |
schestowitz | But I'm no expert on the subject | Oct 12 02:04 |
schestowitz | _Goblin: let them quote it | Oct 12 02:04 |
schestowitz | I'm fine with it | Oct 12 02:04 |
schestowitz | If he had a medical condition, he should eat and follow GP's advice | Oct 12 02:04 |
schestowitz | not religionus advice | Oct 12 02:04 |
schestowitz | he did go to chemo therapy | Oct 12 02:04 |
schestowitz | I had family go through this | Oct 12 02:04 |
schestowitz | and we don't really know much about Jobs' condition | Oct 12 02:05 |
schestowitz | like Apple itself, this was all secretive | Oct 12 02:05 |
schestowitz | which works against him too | Oct 12 02:05 |
_Goblin | I think theres a conspiracy there... ;) | Oct 12 02:05 |
schestowitz | As some people would say he carrid HIV | Oct 12 02:05 |
schestowitz | Others say he followed some spiritual routes rather than handle it in the best known way | Oct 12 02:05 |
schestowitz | _Goblin: yes, there is | Oct 12 02:05 |
schestowitz | but.. | Oct 12 02:05 |
_Goblin | what do you reckon....this is all just a big scam in order for Steve to assend to his rightful place in the heavens as a diety? | Oct 12 02:05 |
schestowitz | His secrecy works against | Oct 12 02:05 |
schestowitz | him | Oct 12 02:06 |
schestowitz | same for secret socieities | Oct 12 02:06 |
schestowitz | if they opened up | Oct 12 02:06 |
schestowitz | Then people would not alleged they have orgies inside coffins and such nutty stuff | Oct 12 02:06 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Plantas #Medicinais - Fitoterapia - Medicina Alternativa - InfoEscola http://goo.gl/W2SQ8 | Oct 12 02:06 | |
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schestowitz | _Goblin: Steve is for sure a deity | Oct 12 02:06 |
_Goblin | You do know that Jobs was already written about in the bible....? | Oct 12 02:06 |
schestowitz | if not in a spiritual level, then in practice | Oct 12 02:07 |
_Goblin | let me quote... | Oct 12 02:07 |
schestowitz | he has many followers | Oct 12 02:07 |
_Goblin | From the Book of Job: | Oct 12 02:07 |
schestowitz | so does the founder of the whole Mormons movement | Oct 12 02:07 |
schestowitz | TechEYE? | Oct 12 02:07 |
_Goblin | "There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil. 1:2 And there were born unto him seven sons and three daughters. " | Oct 12 02:07 |
_Goblin | it gets better.... | Oct 12 02:07 |
_Goblin | hang fire.... | Oct 12 02:07 |
schestowitz | k | Oct 12 02:07 |
*schestowitz extinguishes self | Oct 12 02:08 | |
_Goblin | "His substance also was seven thousand sheep, and three thousand camels, and five hundred yoke of oxen," | Oct 12 02:08 |
_Goblin | (obviously in biblical times they had to interpret the i products the best way they could... | Oct 12 02:08 |
_Goblin | but heres there proof.... | Oct 12 02:08 |
schestowitz | their | Oct 12 02:08 |
schestowitz | :-p | Oct 12 02:08 |
schestowitz | me with my typos, who am I to speak? :-) | Oct 12 02:08 |
_Goblin | here's the part which catagorically proves its Steve Jobs that was written about.... | Oct 12 02:08 |
_Goblin | "and five hundred yoke of oxen and five hundred she asses" | Oct 12 02:09 |
schestowitz | wot? | Oct 12 02:09 |
_Goblin | the she asses are obviously apple fanboys | Oct 12 02:09 |
_Goblin | youre not interpretting it... | Oct 12 02:10 |
_Goblin | I can name one apple she ass that is not currently in the channel | Oct 12 02:10 |
schestowitz | DrPizza? | Oct 12 02:11 |
DrPizza | ... | Oct 12 02:11 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ah, the good old days, @parlementum | Oct 12 02:11 | |
_Goblin | Sorry wrong quote.....out of context... | Oct 12 02:12 |
_Goblin | heres the part where the bible predicts the failure of the iphone with its signal issues. "5:12 He disappointeth the devices of the crafty, so that their hands cannot perform their enterprise." | Oct 12 02:12 |
_Goblin | translated....you would dial a number and get cut off due to dodgy antenna. | Oct 12 02:13 |
schestowitz | LOL | Oct 12 02:14 |
schestowitz | enterprise,, eh? | Oct 12 02:14 |
schestowitz | The blacksmiths? | Oct 12 02:15 |
DaemonFC | http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=astrology | Oct 12 02:19 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Motorola Solutions spins ruggedized #Android tablet http://ur1.ca/5dmp3 | Oct 12 02:20 | |
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schestowitz | tl ;dr :-) | Oct 12 02:20 |
*schestowitz reads | Oct 12 02:21 | |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: it's hilarious | Oct 12 02:22 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: "Occupy Wall Street" Should Protest Wall Street Takeover of Health Care http://is.gd/nDhLH2 by the heroic Potter | Oct 12 02:23 |
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schestowitz | Did you pay back"? | Oct 12 02:23 |
schestowitz | !google doctor money back fromm 50 cent shooting | Oct 12 02:24 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - 50 Cent - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent | Oct 12 02:24 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - G-Unit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G-Unit | Oct 12 02:24 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - 50 Cent | Music Videos, Songs, News, Photos, and Lyrics | MTV | http://www.mtv.com/music/artist/50_cent/artist.jhtml | Oct 12 02:24 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - BUSTED!! 50 Cent Lied About Being Shot 9 Times!! - MediaTakeOut ... | http://mediatakeout.com/5870/busted_50_cent_lied_about_being_shot_9_times.html | Oct 12 02:24 |
DaemonFC | Get Sick, And Die Trying To Pay For It | Oct 12 02:24 |
DaemonFC | :) | Oct 12 02:24 |
schestowitz | :-) | Oct 12 02:25 |
schestowitz | first time I hear this | Oct 12 02:25 |
DaemonFC | not news | Oct 12 02:25 |
DaemonFC | he's still dodging the guy and he's got millions of dollars | Oct 12 02:25 |
schestowitz | for many it's loss of the house paying for the medical bills | Oct 12 02:25 |
schestowitz | here we pay NI | Oct 12 02:25 |
schestowitz | is he still? | Oct 12 02:26 |
schestowitz | I remember eading about it in 2003 | Oct 12 02:26 |
schestowitz | I was in the train station in Birmingham around 3am | Oct 12 02:26 |
schestowitz | waiitng to get to Oxford.. and they had those toll Internet thingies | Oct 12 02:27 |
schestowitz | Really crap | Oct 12 02:27 |
schestowitz | With a metal roll bal you can barely move | Oct 12 02:27 |
schestowitz | but could read some news | Oct 12 02:27 |
DaemonFC | yeah, his claim is that since he was poor when the guy saved his life via charity, that he isn't obligated to pay him anything now that he has tons of money | Oct 12 02:32 |
DaemonFC | :) | Oct 12 02:32 |
DaemonFC | amazing isn't it? | Oct 12 02:32 |
DaemonFC | rich people steal salt packets and straws from McDonalds | Oct 12 02:32 |
DaemonFC | they do anything they can to make sure everyone else gets to subsidize their existence | Oct 12 02:33 |
abeNd-org | NI? | Oct 12 02:40 |
schestowitz | National Insurance | Oct 12 02:41 |
_Goblin | Right...I'm done.... | Oct 12 02:45 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 'Natural' breakfast cereals loaded with pesticides and GMOs - explosive new scorecard from Cornucopia reveals all #gmo http://goo.gl/47DFt | Oct 12 02:45 | |
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_Goblin | Off to bed me thinks..... | Oct 12 02:45 |
abeNd-org | ah, more used to ni.com where a friend works | Oct 12 02:46 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 11/10/2011: Wine 1.3.30, Sabayon 7 is Coming http://is.gd/keDjpr !techrights | Oct 12 02:53 | |
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schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/84543563 | Oct 12 02:54 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Oct-11 01:45:48 UTC - Identi.ca: Global Consciousness Project http://is.gd/7VDcSW good new video on research | Oct 12 02:54 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 11/10/2011: Wine 1.3.30, Sabayon 7 is Coming http://is.gd/keDjpr #techrights | Oct 12 02:55 | |
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abeNd-org | any of you techrights folks at brainshare? | Oct 12 02:55 |
schestowitz | I was invited to gwavacon once | Oct 12 02:56 |
schestowitz | by richard | Oct 12 02:56 |
schestowitz | he offered to cover travel expenses too, but for a site that's against Novell it made no sense to attend | Oct 12 02:56 |
schestowitz | that's like MS attending Linux events :-) | Oct 12 02:57 |
`Robotek | that's like a crackhead selling crack to rich people. | Oct 12 03:01 |
abeNd-org | robo im sure that happens more than you would think | Oct 12 03:01 |
abeNd-org | i think richard wanted to understand just what/why you were against | Oct 12 03:01 |
DaemonFC | they do it because Linux snubbed them when all they ever wanted to do was give it cake | Oct 12 03:02 |
DaemonFC | :) | Oct 12 03:02 |
abeNd-org | my cowokers are at brainshare this yr, ill be going to gwavacon | Oct 12 03:02 |
`Robotek | some code doesn't interpret at all. the parsers are just editors. | Oct 12 03:02 |
schestowitz | abeNd-org: I was never against Richard Bliss and his people | Oct 12 03:02 |
schestowitz | I think he knoew that | Oct 12 03:03 |
schestowitz | weeks ago he connected to me in linkedin | Oct 12 03:03 |
schestowitz | bliss had nothing to dio with the MS deal | Oct 12 03:03 |
schestowitz | btw, youtube has his daughter do a mock interviww with hovsepian on youtube | Oct 12 03:04 |
schestowitz | gn | Oct 12 03:04 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] WATCH: Beck's Dark, Gruesome Occupy Wall Street Warning | COLLAPSENET #ows #nwo http://goo.gl/ldhX0 | Oct 12 03:06 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 12 03:06 |
abeNd-org | bliss (as you probably saw on linkedin) isnt with gwava anymore | Oct 12 03:09 |
abeNd-org | not sure why not, he was the public face of the company, nice guy too, talked with him for awhile the last gwavacon i was at | Oct 12 03:09 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Yes. The early days of film were quite extraordinary. | Oct 12 03:31 | |
DaemonFC | http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/10/11/1243243/uk-isps-to-begin-censorship-of-porn-websites | Oct 12 03:34 |
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DaemonFC | http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/370447/opera-ditches-browser-scrolling-for-pages | Oct 12 03:40 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: It's official now: city of Ghent is a living lab. I like what I hear! Deze man is verplicht te volgen d http://ur1. ... | Oct 12 04:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Tanfoglio_ helaas. | Oct 12 04:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @jn_cn Ik voel me rot dat project.iRail.be down was. Ik laat je weten als het weer online is. | Oct 12 04:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @HackdeOverheid die site draait tenminste al apache. Onze juridische sites draaien op NetScape servers | Oct 12 04:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @jn_cn @irail Enkel onze documentatie is evenoffline. Maar documentatie is snel gegeven | Oct 12 04:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @jn_cn Excuses voor dat ongemak! Als er iets is: pieter aŧ iRail.be /cc @tuinslak | Oct 12 04:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @VincentVQ: Allemaal goed en wel,speuren nr illegale boekendwnloads: http://ur1.ca/5dnya Maar why wo http://ur1. ... | Oct 12 04:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @fdenkens: Slecht bankieren voor dummies (that includes me) http://t.co/rNJV5Ifx | Oct 12 04:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp bah, ik had toch een beetje bittere kritiek verwacht. | Oct 12 04:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @cubus ik heb nooit begrepen wat ze zeiden. Bij deze bedankt #thanksgiving | Oct 12 04:05 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @fdenkens Yup! Looking forward to our meeting :) | Oct 12 04:06 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @jn_cn en is al een jaar oud. Niet perfect maar ook wij hebben geleerd: 5 december is officiële launch versie 2.0 | Oct 12 04:06 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @greetd eentje voor jou - http://t.co/1RaqrZIu | Oct 12 04:06 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @ajslaghu en we zijn trots op onze IE6 support verdorie! ;) | Oct 12 04:06 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @jn_cn er is overigens al een iOS app, BeTrains genaamd, maar die kan beter: source hier - http://t.co/iprWLcvb | Oct 12 04:06 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @jn_cn En eindelijk! http://t.co/qdPbEqnl :) | Oct 12 04:06 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @jn_cn http://t.co/OW3t5Rdf ; stations/ ; en liveboard/?station=gent-sint-pieters bijvoorbeeld | Oct 12 04:06 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @VincentVQ Goeie opmerking! Zelfde geldt ook nog steeds voor video on demand via de browser | Oct 12 04:06 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Apple AAPL is a market darling. | Oct 12 05:21 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @Org9 "violates international norms" defined by US state dept? Illegal spying UN reps/staff = "international norms?" http://ur1.ca/5dpni | Oct 12 05:56 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Maybe ask Swedish Die Beauty filmmakers, they are pretty faif so might have used it http://diebeauty.blogspot.com/2010_08_01_archive.html | Oct 12 06:11 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] btw sounds like a great job for you (combining writing & IT :) | Oct 12 06:13 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] when i just *have* to use photoshop (so i don't go insane), i use virtual box; so far mine is fine <knock wood> | Oct 12 06:35 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Nick-the-cat keeps trying to put me to sleep, and he's winning... off to snoozeland for me... good night !identiverse !tzaf | Oct 12 07:07 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Shared a post "It's a Gumby Google logo! Pokey is my favorite. Check it out on http://www.google.com/" https://plus.go... http://b1t.it/HjY | Oct 12 07:33 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Vidalia 0.2.15 is out: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/vidalia-0215-out | Oct 12 07:33 | |
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cubezzz | hmmm, eagle II z80 cp/m machine has two parallel ports | Oct 12 09:43 |
schestowitz | _Goblin: nice to see you fixed those line issues in the image I sent you | Oct 12 09:47 |
schestowitz | I didn't see these until you put that up | Oct 12 09:47 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] S Korea to crack down on Internet users praising N Korea - http://tnw.co/q4BISG gosh, is #southkorea *that* insecure? #censroship | Oct 12 09:47 | |
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MinceR | geekings | Oct 12 09:53 |
schestowitz | identica is still slow and unreliable today | Oct 12 09:57 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] This is My Winter - http://bit.ly/nEhgZp yeah, easy, anyone could do that...well, maybe not... | Oct 12 10:14 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Hard-up OpenOffice whips out begging-cap website http://ur1.ca/5drp2 #scoracle | Oct 12 10:14 | |
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schestowitz | More proof of Oracle's disinterest in open source http://is.gd/PGEyWO #scoracle | Oct 12 10:17 |
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sebsebseb | hi | Oct 12 10:24 |
schestowitz | hi sebastian | Oct 12 10:24 |
schestowitz | identica has been flaky, did you notice? | Oct 12 10:24 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: you mean slow recently? it has at times this week yeah been slow | Oct 12 10:25 |
schestowitz | or inaccessible | Oct 12 10:25 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: yep | Oct 12 10:25 |
sebsebseb | noticed that | Oct 12 10:25 |
sebsebseb | one of their servers went down or something | Oct 12 10:25 |
sebsebseb | there was a dent from evan | Oct 12 10:25 |
schestowitz | hmmm.. | Oct 12 10:26 |
schestowitz | they should be better prepared with redundancy | Oct 12 10:26 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: tommorow is a interesting day | Oct 12 10:26 |
schestowitz | why? | Oct 12 10:27 |
schestowitz | oct 15th has people marching | Oct 12 10:27 |
_Goblin | schestowitz: I didn't...its just on a white background you can't see them....I'm going to fix it later today on the site.....I love the image though! | Oct 12 10:27 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: So you recenlty became a father again? or first time? | Oct 12 10:28 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: Ubuntu 11.10 of course | Oct 12 10:28 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: how many people will be off to other distros instead I wonder :D | Oct 12 10:28 |
sebsebseb | I think quite a lot | Oct 12 10:28 |
sebsebseb | of the more expereinced users | Oct 12 10:28 |
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sebsebseb | schestowitz: who aren't fan boys or anything like that :D | Oct 12 10:29 |
schestowitz | _Goblin: Hong Kong theme | Oct 12 10:29 |
schestowitz | i think i'll give up on identica for today | Oct 12 10:30 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: Does that mean Twiter as well? | Oct 12 10:31 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: I was thinking about going through my time line, but if it's slow hmm | Oct 12 10:31 |
_Goblin | sebsebseb: father again.... | Oct 12 10:37 |
_Goblin | right...brb....stuff to do... | Oct 12 10:37 |
schestowitz | sebsebseb: yes, twiter too | Oct 12 10:37 |
_Goblin | Roy....possibly...if you are free tonight, I might be available to record..... | Oct 12 10:37 |
schestowitz | so just diaspora for now | Oct 12 10:37 |
schestowitz | COOL! | Oct 12 10:37 |
schestowitz | _Goblin: tonight would work great for me | Oct 12 10:37 |
schestowitz | cause I'm bored today | Oct 12 10:37 |
_Goblin | cool...I'll see what I can do... | Oct 12 10:39 |
_Goblin | bbl | Oct 12 10:39 |
schestowitz | grrr | Oct 12 10:47 |
schestowitz | I dragged files over fish::// | Oct 12 10:47 |
schestowitz | and it didn't bother asking whether to move or copy | Oct 12 10:47 |
schestowitz | it just moves them now | Oct 12 10:47 |
schestowitz | I'll need to copy em back | Oct 12 10:48 |
schestowitz | and it'll probably lose file permissisions in the process: X: | Oct 12 10:48 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "That's what Stallman's job is: to be the paladin. Carry on, noble knight!" http://is.gd/tp9eWE | Oct 12 10:48 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] What Happens When The Company Backing Up Your Passwords In The Event of Your Death Itself Dies? - http://bit.ly/noEzpc could be big issue | Oct 12 10:48 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #LiamFox denies cover-up over reports of burglary at his home http://gu.com/p/32h9q cover up over a burglary? Does he think he's #Nixon? | Oct 12 10:48 | |
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koolhead17 | schestowitz: http://www.tehelka.com/story_main50.asp?filename=Ws101011MICROSOFT.asp | Oct 12 10:50 |
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koolhead17 | :D | Oct 12 10:50 |
koolhead17 | schestowitz: the news is fianally out | Oct 12 10:50 |
schestowitz | koolhead17: I saw | Oct 12 10:51 |
schestowitz | katherine linked to it | Oct 12 10:51 |
schestowitz | Very good article | Oct 12 10:51 |
schestowitz | I am gonna cover it later | Oct 12 10:51 |
koolhead17 | schestowitz: am very happy :P | Oct 12 10:51 |
schestowitz | it's a good article, very detailed too | Oct 12 10:51 |
schestowitz | and has cablegate stuff in it | Oct 12 10:51 |
koolhead17 | schestowitz: hehe thanks to you for that | Oct 12 10:52 |
koolhead17 | :D | Oct 12 10:52 |
koolhead17 | the reporter took 15 days to come out with it | Oct 12 10:52 |
koolhead17 | :D | Oct 12 10:52 |
koolhead17 | you can understand | Oct 12 10:52 |
koolhead17 | schestowitz: am very happy actully :P | Oct 12 10:53 |
Aondo | tech support at roccat: I'm glad to hear that you like the Linux drivers from Stefan Achatz so much. We will continue to support this avid user in creating drivers. | Oct 12 10:54 |
Aondo | it's good :) | Oct 12 10:55 |
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schestowitz | http://www.androidguys.com/2011/10/11/samsung-galaxy-nexus-coming-sooner/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+androidguyscom+%28AndroidGuys%29 | Oct 12 11:30 |
schestowitz | http://www.androidguys.com/2011/10/11/samsung-google-lie-reason-galaxy-nexus-delay-rumor/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+androidguyscom+%28AndroidGuys%29 | Oct 12 11:30 |
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sebsebseb | schestowitz: well this is kind of fun | Oct 12 11:31 |
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sebsebseb | schestowitz: having a tech debate or whatever, about Ubuntu and so on | Oct 12 11:31 |
sebsebseb | with well a girl apparnatly | Oct 12 11:31 |
sebsebseb | would normally be with a guy you know | Oct 12 11:32 |
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schestowitz | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/how-to-check-on-your-internet-connection/1527 | Oct 12 11:39 |
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schestowitz | sebsebseb: maybe you two can compile a kernel together | Oct 12 11:39 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: uh? | Oct 12 11:42 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: no she was telling me how great Unity is now and KUbuntu | Oct 12 11:42 |
sebsebseb | in 11.10 | Oct 12 11:42 |
sebsebseb | and that kind of thing | Oct 12 11:43 |
schestowitz | I was joking | Oct 12 11:43 |
schestowitz | I could make a ruder joke | Oct 12 11:43 |
sebsebseb | and suggested I put it on pshyicall hardware and try them out hmm | Oct 12 11:43 |
schestowitz | like "you could fsck her hard drive" | Oct 12 11:43 |
sebsebseb | no thanks not soon, if ever really, I know what to expect from what I seen before of trying Unity, and what I seen of 11.10 | Oct 12 11:43 |
sebsebseb | and | Oct 12 11:43 |
sebsebseb | I knew it would mess up my current boot loader set up if I did that | Oct 12 11:43 |
schestowitz | geeks fidninhg fiel system errors in an afternoon | Oct 12 11:43 |
sebsebseb | and don't want that | Oct 12 11:43 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] GNU/Linux to Win in Russia (Desktops Too) http://is.gd/bRhN4x #russia | Oct 12 11:56 | |
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schestowitz | http://www.htmlgoodies.com/daily_news/microsoft-hopes-to-lure-developers-to-azure-with-webmatrix-2.0.html | Oct 12 11:58 |
schestowitz | LOL | Oct 12 11:58 |
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schestowitz | I'm just going to ignore that | Oct 12 11:58 |
schestowitz | just mentioning it will help it more than anything | Oct 12 11:58 |
schestowitz | it's obscure | Oct 12 11:58 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Nokia Assembles New Linux Development Team http://is.gd/g9QKVf #linux | Oct 12 12:00 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols: Microsoft's Metro is on the wrong track for many Windows users http://is.gd/tRKrrW #vista8 #windows | Oct 12 12:00 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Apache and IIS’ Web server rival #NGINX is growing fast http://is.gd/uNY1O4 #russia #server | Oct 12 12:00 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu no longer strict about Free software being in the repo http://is.gd/iTZcyV #adobeTrash | Oct 12 12:01 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Intel's Brewing A New #Linux Driver Release Cycle http://is.gd/0arP0u | Oct 12 12:01 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Bristol City Council all clear for open source http://is.gd/OLMJWS | Oct 12 12:01 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] AT&T Distributes #Linux http://ur1.ca/5dsge | Oct 12 12:03 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Superb Mini Server 1.6.2 Has Linux Kernel 2.6.39.3 http://is.gd/tiBGoh #gnu #linux | Oct 12 12:03 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux Foundation Keeps Growing Fast http://is.gd/J1QNho | Oct 12 12:03 | |
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schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84547282 | Oct 12 12:04 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Oct-11 11:00:42 UTC - Identi.ca: CyanogenMod 7.1 custom Android firmware released - Update http://is.gd/kRUuY9 | Oct 12 12:04 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] More proof of Oracle's disinterest in open source http://is.gd/PGEyWO #scoracle | Oct 12 12:05 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 12 12:05 |
schestowitz | re Nokia | Oct 12 12:05 |
schestowitz | "So, what, they just got bored with Maemo and Meego and they wanted to get away from Intel and the Linux Foundation and all?" | Oct 12 12:05 |
schestowitz | Seems so | Oct 12 12:05 |
schestowitz | In essense, Elop poured gasoline on the old pl,aform for some Microsoft PR (pretending there was demand for WP7), but now the fire is burning, the company is sinking, and they need to run back to Linux. | Oct 12 12:07 |
schestowitz | http://seekingalpha.com/article/298766-red-hat-perfect-short-candidate-for-this-market | Oct 12 12:16 |
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schestowitz | LOL | Oct 12 12:16 |
schestowitz | Another 'genius' | Oct 12 12:16 |
schestowitz | Banks upgrade Red Hat | Oct 12 12:16 |
schestowitz | This one without any credentials but just a blog says 'short' it | Oct 12 12:16 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] This is wrong http://goo.gl/B65u3 because !Googleplus does have a problem to solve; the problem of !Facebook's monopoly | Oct 12 12:16 | |
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schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84547330 | Oct 12 12:27 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @gryps75 (gryps75)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Oct-11 11:03:09 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz That's no news. They had non-free software in the partner-repo since... I don't know .. ever | Oct 12 12:27 |
schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84547437 | Oct 12 12:29 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Oct-11 11:08:20 UTC - Identi.ca: #Identica seems to have had some physical server issues, which is the case of lag in posts, then a sudden burst | Oct 12 12:29 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Trufact! http://xkcd.com/963/ Thanks, X.org. Swell job indeed. !linux !debian | Oct 12 12:31 | |
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schestowitz | http://www.itproportal.com/2011/10/11/canonical-announces-ubuntu-os-support-arm-architecture/ | Oct 12 12:32 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Canonical Announces Ubuntu OS to Support ARM Architecture | ITProPortal.com .::. Size~: 40.87 KB | Oct 12 12:32 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: Mageia has some sort of ARM support as well | Oct 12 12:35 |
schestowitz | meh. but this is UBUNTU OS! | Oct 12 12:36 |
MinceR | not sparta? | Oct 12 12:37 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'm really glad I bought a new kettle. My drinks are noticeably better for it | Oct 12 12:40 | |
schestowitz | arghghghghg | Oct 12 12:40 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I've been sitting here watching a Windows system install, along with updates, since about 10am GMT and it still hasn't finished | Oct 12 12:55 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Sam Ramji never really left Microsoft. Now he liaises with familiar Microsoft boosters to generate some whitewashing pieces. | Oct 12 13:01 | |
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AdmFubar_ | good morning all... maybe afternoon or eving for some here | Oct 12 13:02 |
AdmFubar_ | found this article on the reg. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/11/microsoft_browser_crituque/ | Oct 12 13:03 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft flags Firefox and Chrome for security failings • The Register .::. Size~: 27.81 KB | Oct 12 13:03 |
AdmFubar_ | it is a laugh to go to the site.. | Oct 12 13:03 |
AdmFubar_ | went on it with opera, an it states that is can check the security of my browser | Oct 12 13:04 |
AdmFubar_ | soooooo i spoofed the browser id and switched it to say firefox | Oct 12 13:04 |
AdmFubar_ | lo and behold it get the 2 outta 4 score as in the article | Oct 12 13:05 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mozilla boss Mitchell Baker stresses open approach for mobile platforms http://is.gd/1l6GRW #firefox | Oct 12 13:05 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mozilla boss Mitchell Baker stresses open approach for mobile platforms - IT News from V3.co.uk .::. Size~: 94.27 KB | Oct 12 13:05 |
AdmFubar_ | switched to to say ie and amazingly it get the 4 outta 4 | Oct 12 13:05 |
AdmFubar_ | :P | Oct 12 13:05 |
schestowitz | :-) | Oct 12 13:06 |
MinceR | the register started shilling for m$ long ago | Oct 12 13:06 |
AdmFubar_ | i love the comedy of errors from ms sponcered sites... | Oct 12 13:06 |
schestowitz | independent and unbiased | Oct 12 13:06 |
schestowitz | I went to a creationist site | Oct 12 13:06 |
schestowitz | it told me Noah assembled dinosaurs in a wooden boat | Oct 12 13:06 |
AdmFubar_ | what did he buld the dinos out of? | Oct 12 13:07 |
AdmFubar_ | :)) | Oct 12 13:07 |
schestowitz | it's metaphor | Oct 12 13:07 |
AdmFubar_ | i know | Oct 12 13:07 |
AdmFubar_ | :P | Oct 12 13:07 |
schestowitz | :-) | Oct 12 13:07 |
schestowitz | the dinos I mean | Oct 12 13:07 |
MinceR | lol | Oct 12 13:08 |
AdmFubar_ | answer, he built them out of lies.... | Oct 12 13:08 |
schestowitz | Not everything can be explained By SCIENCE | Oct 12 13:08 |
schestowitz | You AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATHEISTS !!! | Oct 12 13:08 |
schestowitz | Using Microsoft is not about logic | Oct 12 13:09 |
schestowitz | It's about what many people around you do | Oct 12 13:09 |
schestowitz | About 90% of the people in the US | Oct 12 13:09 |
schestowitz | So not many people explore the other side and question their customs | Oct 12 13:09 |
schestowitz | Windows and Microsoft built a religion | Oct 12 13:09 |
schestowitz | Apple build a cult | Oct 12 13:09 |
schestowitz | Linux is academic | Oct 12 13:10 |
schestowitz | Science projects | Oct 12 13:10 |
schestowitz | !Stallman. Oy, where'd you get your MORAL VALUES?!?! huh?" | Oct 12 13:10 |
AdmFubar_ | uhm all larger businesses in the us operate this way... it is scary... | Oct 12 13:10 |
schestowitz | see the jobs thing | Oct 12 13:10 |
schestowitz | see the reg | Oct 12 13:10 |
schestowitz | on the side bar | Oct 12 13:10 |
schestowitz | Now they show me teen job | Oct 12 13:11 |
schestowitz | like it has any relevance to the news | Oct 12 13:11 |
schestowitz | just lousy PR | Oct 12 13:11 |
schestowitz | "oh noes. a rich man died!!!" | Oct 12 13:11 |
schestowitz | "Wah!!" | Oct 12 13:11 |
schestowitz | "Many people die all the time. But this one was special. He was rich!" | Oct 12 13:11 |
schestowitz | http://www.muktware.com/blogs/2625 self-centere | Oct 12 13:12 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Was Steve Jobs An Inspiration For College Students? | Muktware .::. Size~: 34.42 KB | Oct 12 13:12 |
AdmFubar_ | the apple hype machine was out in full force after his death... they were prepping for that for some time.. youy thing they would have done a better job about jobs knowing what was about to happen... | Oct 12 13:12 |
schestowitz | yes | Oct 12 13:12 |
schestowitz | it's a sales magnet | Oct 12 13:12 |
schestowitz | "help poor jobs" | Oct 12 13:12 |
schestowitz | "preorder a hypePhone4Ass" | Oct 12 13:12 |
schestowitz | This whole PR gig will last them a while | Oct 12 13:13 |
schestowitz | But it's a short-term propup | Oct 12 13:13 |
schestowitz | They ally squeezes all that there was in Jobs for this | Oct 12 13:13 |
schestowitz | he's their icon, they really needed to squeeze him hard when he died... folr PR | Oct 12 13:13 |
schestowitz | Apple could not be criticised for a week | Oct 12 13:13 |
schestowitz | Not in the mainstream press or rags like Daily Mail | Oct 12 13:13 |
schestowitz | "Hey. Our CEO died. Here's an opportunity." | Oct 12 13:14 |
schestowitz | Like when hurricanes strike | Oct 12 13:14 |
schestowitz | And governments seek to exploit the panic | Oct 12 13:14 |
schestowitz | 9/11 too... | Oct 12 13:14 |
schestowitz | By the time Gates die there might no longer be a Microsoft to exploit his death | Oct 12 13:14 |
schestowitz | but there you go | Oct 12 13:14 |
schestowitz | Old news | Oct 12 13:14 |
schestowitz | Companies use death of people as a moral shield and PR | Oct 12 13:15 |
schestowitz | Gaining empathy | Oct 12 13:15 |
AdmFubar_ | well i just wanted to point you to that reg article and how that site about browser "security" works.. | Oct 12 13:17 |
AdmFubar_ | later all | Oct 12 13:17 |
schestowitz | Here is more Microsoft PR: http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/101011-ramji-251772.html?t51hb&hpg1=mp | Oct 12 13:18 |
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schestowitz | This guy is making me sick TBH | Oct 12 13:18 |
schestowitz | Like MArtin and Bill HIlf | Oct 12 13:18 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] French Model Specialist Modeliosoft Goes Open Source http://ur1.ca/5dtez #opensource | Oct 12 13:23 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Listening to the World at One on Radio 4: the idea of a Judge proof law surely has to raise a smile. Was it intentional I wonder? #wato | Oct 12 13:25 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open source science http://ur1.ca/5dtfz true symbiosis | Oct 12 13:25 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Where child sacrifice is a business http://goo.gl/14jAs | Oct 12 13:30 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] why does #Chromium miss the last letter in a headline when copying? on some sites you simply can't highlight the entire line | Oct 12 13:31 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Can default P2P settings break the law? US says yes http://is.gd/j6wRug sharing crimes without even the sharing | Oct 12 13:31 | |
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schestowitz | ??? http://www.h-online.com/open/features/Adobe-the-biggest-WebKit-contributor-you-didn-t-know-about-1356929.html | Oct 12 13:32 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Student Journalists Sue Community College For Ridiculously High Fees On Open Records Request http://goo.gl/z008g | Oct 12 13:35 | |
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schestowitz | Chinese telecom firm tied to spy ministry http://is.gd/2UBntS | Oct 12 13:36 |
schestowitz | so basically it's just like AT&T (with CIA). #hyporicy | Oct 12 13:36 |
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schestowitz | hypocrisy | Oct 12 13:37 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Chinese telecom firm tied to spy ministry http://is.gd/2UBntS so basically it's just like AT&T (with CIA). #hypocrisy | Oct 12 13:38 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @reality: My haikus are strong / any subject or topic / they're not very long | Oct 12 14:00 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] configured new netprinter on few !linux machines. !kde is the most user-friendly here. kde 3.5.x that is... 4.x failed miserably. :/ | Oct 12 14:03 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Tell Mastercard: Stop Supporting the Live Dolphin Trade - http://chn.ge/nPn2bz shame on #mastercard #epetitions | Oct 12 14:13 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 12/10/2011: Nokia’s New Linux Team, NGINX Gets Dosh http://ur1.ca/5du2g #techrights | Oct 12 14:15 | |
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schestowitz | https://twitter.com/wood5y/status/124037291961368576 | Oct 12 14:16 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @wood5y: Bristol City Council's stop-start #opensource project & Computacenter's role as viewed by @schestowitz http://t.co/q3aT3ImF | Oct 12 14:16 |
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schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/84547330 | Oct 12 14:16 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @MOGDy: Neue #MOGDy Internetseite auf muenchen.de. Seht sie Euch an unter http://t.co/VRGlexcG #münche http://p.ost.im/p/e6ApL7 | Oct 12 14:16 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 12/10/2011: Nokia’s New Linux Team, NGINX Gets Dosh http://ur1.ca/5du2g !techrights | Oct 12 14:16 | |
schestowitz | ^ubuntu | Oct 12 14:16 |
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schestowitz | I thought they had left Opera, for example, out of it | Oct 12 14:17 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: uh catching up on Techbytes here, desktop envrionments is grand | Oct 12 14:45 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: Ubuntu 11.04 has Classic Desktop by the way, so yep Mint could take tha and do it's thing | Oct 12 14:45 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: it's 11.10 released tommorowo, where yep no Gnome 2 at all anymore | Oct 12 14:46 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The great Chavez-US propaganda war: Beware of 'al Chaveera' | al Jazeera http://t.co/xLVC3sJn | Oct 12 14:51 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] 10 minutes and you know about !China http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/zb84YZR--2w/ | Oct 12 15:06 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Facebook Says Some of Your Personal Data Is Its 'Trade Secrets or Intellectual Property' - http://bit.ly/oYZtUj you thought it was *yours*? | Oct 12 15:18 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] will vegetarians or vegans use a distro called Beefy Miracle? #Fedora | Oct 12 15:31 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Fairly big thunderstorm in Mumbai right now, yikes | Oct 12 15:33 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] How Julian Assange was manufactured into being the enemy of Sweden | ProfBlog http://t.co/X9tOQxox more: http://t.co/1scuh9n5 | Oct 12 15:36 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it's odd though that it doesn't break the copy when the line breaks, but gets passed that only to break on the final letter of the last word | Oct 12 15:36 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Subversion 1.7.0 released http://ur1.ca/5dv32 | Oct 12 15:38 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Now detained: Manning-505 days no trial; Assange-319 days no charge; WikiLeaks-323 days US banking blockade http://t.co/t1FujWmE | Oct 12 15:41 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Don't worry about zero-days, says Microsoft #FAIL remember #stuxnet ? http://goo.gl/YoGCa | Oct 12 15:46 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] German states say "federal trojan" used within legal boundaries #eu #germany #policestate #surveillance http://goo.gl/iZktT | Oct 12 15:50 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] We'll have some news about that this week, I think. | Oct 12 15:58 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] We demand a separation of corporation and state. The unlawful blockade against WikiLeaks by VISA-BoA-PayPal proves the problem. #OWS | Oct 12 16:11 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Sony gets hacked. Again. http://identi.ca/url/54076610 | Oct 12 16:13 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Why the failure of Solyndra is good for solar power http://identi.ca/url/54076870 !science | Oct 12 16:41 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] VeriSign Wants Ability To Suspend Domains Without Court Order http://identi.ca/url/54076879 | Oct 12 16:41 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] #Fedora Ambassadeur Brandon Lozza is helemaal de weg kwijt :-( #sosad | Oct 12 16:48 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] you should tell @BrookeBrawl that the 1% intended Freedom of Speech as an illusion | Oct 12 16:52 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @neptune78 RT: @BrookeBrawl: Any tweets I send to spread the word about http://t.co/tGQo78L2 are BLOCKED!!!!! What happened to Freed ... | Oct 12 16:52 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wikileaks2 Now detained: Manning-505 days no trial; Assange-319 days no charge; WikiLeaks-323 days US banking blockade http://t.co/t ... | Oct 12 16:53 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] #ACTA will destroy open Net. #EU may be only hope to kill rights-abusing treaty. Tell MEPs to vote NO on ACTA! http://bit.ly/q3At5i | Oct 12 17:25 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Simple Google+ #Bookmarklet by AJ Batac #g+ | Oct 12 17:56 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @iurie: There is no such thing as part freedom. -- Nelson Mandela #freedom !q #gnu | Oct 12 18:32 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] "CC licensing.. means viewers don't need to wonder about their rights." Why @Category5TV chose #CC BY: http://bit.ly/rrvHTB #openjournalism | Oct 12 18:32 | |
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_Goblin | Desktop PC: 18:33:06 up 10:26, 3 users, load average: 0.20, 0.24, 0.16 | Oct 12 18:33 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] 18:33:06 up 10:26, 3 users, load average: 0.20, 0.24, 0.16 | Oct 12 18:37 | |
schestowitz | _Goblin: :-) | Oct 12 18:45 |
schestowitz | are you read? | Oct 12 18:45 |
schestowitz | ready | Oct 12 18:45 |
schestowitz | I'm writing 5 more article | Oct 12 18:45 |
schestowitz | *arcles | Oct 12 18:45 |
schestowitz | BTW, Bytes Media got mail today | Oct 12 18:45 |
schestowitz | to have its content in Boston University :-) | Oct 12 18:46 |
schestowitz | 90 students | Oct 12 18:46 |
schestowitz | I know Skeptoid used to advocate this for its podcast | Oct 12 18:46 |
schestowitz | free for educational use | Oct 12 18:46 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Wednesday's security updates http://ur1.ca/5dx8j | Oct 12 18:49 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Post Apocalyptic #Survival Gear: Would you survive the apocalypse? #ghb http://goo.gl/YrFyL | Oct 12 18:49 | |
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schestowitz | heh | Oct 12 18:50 |
schestowitz | _Goblin: I've just entered curl instead of cush in the CLI | Oct 12 18:50 |
schestowitz | I blame you for putting this in my mind | Oct 12 18:50 |
schestowitz | so I downloaded the page I just wanted a short url for | Oct 12 18:50 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft’s #UEFI Plans an Attack on the Environment, Not Just GNU/Linux (All in the Name of ‘Security’) http://is.gd/SUVO00 | Oct 12 18:52 | |
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_Goblin | its a nice little command | Oct 12 18:53 |
_Goblin | keep meaning to check out the full scope of what it can do | Oct 12 18:53 |
schestowitz | I prefer wget | Oct 12 18:53 |
schestowitz | gnu | Oct 12 18:53 |
schestowitz | " | Oct 12 18:54 |
schestowitz | Mark Taber – about 2 hours ago | Oct 12 18:54 |
schestowitz | Really liking Diaspora so far, and some really interesting people, subject matter; already subscribed to a new (to me) blog, @OpenBytes...good stuff. | Oct 12 18:54 |
schestowitz | " | Oct 12 18:54 |
schestowitz | Did you see it? | Oct 12 18:54 |
schestowitz | It's not public | Oct 12 18:54 |
schestowitz | So I cannot link to it | Oct 12 18:54 |
_Goblin | Ah... | Oct 12 18:55 |
schestowitz | http://www.sxc.hu/photo/1328716 | Oct 12 18:55 |
schestowitz | heh | Oct 12 18:55 |
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_Goblin | Really interesting? I've been called many things in my life.....interesting is not one of them | Oct 12 18:55 |
schestowitz | Cant use it | Oct 12 18:55 |
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schestowitz | someone might choose to feel offended | Oct 12 18:55 |
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_Goblin | Right...I'm just finishing off a few chores and then we can set on recording if you want | Oct 12 18:56 |
schestowitz | That'll be better http://www.sxc.hu/photo/1303602 | Oct 12 18:56 |
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schestowitz | _Goblin: cool. holla when you roll | Oct 12 18:56 |
_Goblin | will do..... | Oct 12 18:57 |
_Goblin | Ive just been called to bring Jeremy Kyle to the bath......I'll let you try and work that one out....answer when I return | Oct 12 18:58 |
schestowitz | on a usb stick? | Oct 12 18:58 |
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_Goblin | back.... | Oct 12 18:59 |
_Goblin | nope....its what Daniel calls his toy rubber lizzard | Oct 12 18:59 |
_Goblin | probably after having to sit through the jeremy kyle show with shell...that where he got the name from | Oct 12 18:59 |
schestowitz | that sounds wrong for so many reasons | Oct 12 18:59 |
schestowitz | [18:59] <_Goblin> nope....its what Daniel calls his toy rubber lizzard | Oct 12 18:59 |
_Goblin | yep.... | Oct 12 18:59 |
_Goblin | Oh....I thought you meant the Jeremy Kyle part | Oct 12 19:00 |
_Goblin | this lizard actually looks quite realistic.....put it in a glass tank and I think you could fool people into thinking its real | Oct 12 19:01 |
schestowitz | No, I meant... | Oct 12 19:01 |
schestowitz | sn*t could accuse you of pedophelia | Oct 12 19:01 |
schestowitz | Thr trolls are very nasty | Oct 12 19:01 |
_Goblin | I'm sure he wouldn't......he's got kids himself and theres probably all sorts of silly names for their toys too | Oct 12 19:01 |
schestowitz | yesterday the ender toll did somrthing similar | Oct 12 19:02 |
schestowitz | pretending not to understand | Oct 12 19:02 |
schestowitz | or having very bad reading comprehension skills | Oct 12 19:02 |
_Goblin | Daniel hasnt got a "Roy" toy yet....however everytime a plane goes over the house he points and says "Uncle Roy" | Oct 12 19:03 |
_Goblin | I think he thinks you are a pilot | Oct 12 19:03 |
_Goblin | I was looking through COLA the other day.... | Oct 12 19:04 |
_Goblin | its good tabloid entertainment. | Oct 12 19:05 |
_Goblin | btw I'm now getting around to making a script that will dump an entire timeline of a user to a textfile. | Oct 12 19:07 |
_Goblin | (identi.ca/twitter timeline) | Oct 12 19:10 |
schestowitz | cool | Oct 12 19:13 |
*schestowitz writing ferociously | Oct 12 19:13 | |
schestowitz | the back-end server I ran the scipt on | Oct 12 19:14 |
schestowitz | 4400+ ogg downloads since Sunday | Oct 12 19:14 |
_Goblin | RE: Mark Taber..... I think I'm no longer interesting to him....he's stopped following me! | Oct 12 19:14 |
_Goblin | that was quick | Oct 12 19:14 |
schestowitz | 1637 mp3 | Oct 12 19:14 |
schestowitz | in 3 days | Oct 12 19:14 |
_Goblin | usually people know me for at least a day before running. | Oct 12 19:14 |
schestowitz | wow | Oct 12 19:14 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] Another solid CyanogenMod release http://ur1.ca/5dxct | Oct 12 19:15 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Pushing Hard for #swpats in #Europe While Halliburton Makes British/European Patent Lawyers Happy http://is.gd/DC0mfQ | Oct 12 19:15 | |
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schestowitz | and we're just 11 months old | Oct 12 19:15 |
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_Goblin | schestowitz: Im on | Oct 12 19:42 |
schestowitz | ok | Oct 12 19:43 |
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koolhead17 | schestowitz :P | Oct 12 19:50 |
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cubezzz | some folks on the net are saying the UK is one of the worst places for FOSS | Oct 12 20:26 |
schestowitz | yes | Oct 12 20:26 |
schestowitz | likely sp | Oct 12 20:26 |
schestowitz | so | Oct 12 20:26 |
cubezzz | but then I see a lot of folks with British accents on youtube using AROS and Linux | Oct 12 20:26 |
schestowitz | worse than the US in some ways | Oct 12 20:26 |
schestowitz | But Microsoft also reigns Australia | Oct 12 20:27 |
cubezzz | how is it worse? | Oct 12 20:27 |
schestowitz | it's all "IP" this, IP that here | Oct 12 20:27 |
cubezzz | hmmm | Oct 12 20:27 |
cubezzz | but Canonical is based in London... | Oct 12 20:28 |
cubezzz | Canada doesn't seem to be too great, but I think it's improving slightly | Oct 12 20:30 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is joshix with 153 dents! | Oct 12 20:39 | |
cubezzz | "Birmingham came close to installing Ubuntu on all the city's libraries last year; apparently they chickened out because they were concerned the systems wouldn't be compatible with many of Joe Public's flash drives. (although there was a rumour that MS slipped them a large bung in the form of heavily discounted licenses)" | Oct 12 20:48 |
schestowitz | yah | Oct 12 20:49 |
schestowitz | from around 2006/7 | Oct 12 20:49 |
schestowitz | I covered this at the time | Oct 12 20:49 |
cubezzz | I figured you knew about it | Oct 12 20:49 |
cubezzz | our libraries suck too | Oct 12 21:11 |
cubezzz | at least my ISP is linux friendly | Oct 12 21:13 |
cubezzz | it's a freenet... one of the few | Oct 12 21:14 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Internet industry sends new letter to Congress opposing #ProtectIP Act: https://eff.org/r.3DE; Send your own: https://eff.org/r.17P | Oct 12 21:35 | |
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MinceR | gn | Oct 12 22:35 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Not a problem. We don't actually use that info anyways. | Oct 12 22:37 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] We'll probably have some news on that soon. | Oct 12 22:37 | |
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_Goblin | schestowitz: Did you get an email from the Diaspora team? - I'm certainly going to help. | Oct 12 23:16 |
cubezzz | got .Xdefaults figured out mostly | Oct 12 23:17 |
cubezzz | schestowitz, you can make motif look good :) | Oct 12 23:17 |
_Goblin | schestowitz: obviously it was sent out on mass, but if anything deserves help its Diaspora | Oct 12 23:17 |
schestowitz | _Goblin: just started encoding | Oct 12 23:23 |
schestowitz | it taqkes longer to edit | Oct 12 23:23 |
schestowitz | making song transitions and all | Oct 12 23:23 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Just finished recording episode 64 of TechBytes......on 1/11/11 it will have been running a year! | Oct 12 23:23 | |
schestowitz | now making versions, will be done tomorrow | Oct 12 23:23 |
_Goblin | schestowitz: thats cool....just remember to get the beginning of the show right! | Oct 12 23:24 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: i don't think any toolkit ever bothers ovrerriding motif default rendering | Oct 12 23:24 |
schestowitz | _Goblin: yes | Oct 12 23:24 |
cubezzz | .Xdefaults | Oct 12 23:24 |
schestowitz | the way I do it is like this | Oct 12 23:24 |
schestowitz | open 6 files | Oct 12 23:24 |
cubezzz | you can change colours and fonts for starters | Oct 12 23:24 |
schestowitz | make all mono | Oct 12 23:24 |
schestowitz | get silence sample from end, remove noise from main track | Oct 12 23:25 |
_Goblin | I'll call icazza | Oct 12 23:25 |
schestowitz | then set the volume right for all 6 channels | Oct 12 23:25 |
schestowitz | then aliging the channels with some fade ins | Oct 12 23:25 |
schestowitz | I use a leveller today because volumes were still not perfect, but far better than last time | Oct 12 23:26 |
schestowitz | the rest is not tampered with | Oct 12 23:26 |
schestowitz | fide in for songs is the only read modification | Oct 12 23:26 |
schestowitz | so people know it's raq | Oct 12 23:26 |
schestowitz | raq | Oct 12 23:26 |
schestowitz | raw | Oct 12 23:26 |
schestowitz | burps included | Oct 12 23:26 |
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cubezzz | you don't need a toolkit to change stuff | Oct 12 23:27 |
cubezzz | but .Xdefaults stuff is not well documented | Oct 12 23:27 |
schestowitz | "> If you really want to help linux then use your influence to get google to honestly, cleanly acquire lawful rights to me IP immediately. I will not talk to anyone with open source but a would do a deal with google and help them fight off apple and linux's biggest enemy: msft. But it has to be immediate. No gaming me with stalling. " | Oct 12 23:35 |
schestowitz | Just got this by mail | Oct 12 23:35 |
schestowitz | Doesn't seem polite | Oct 12 23:35 |
DaemonFC | X is what you get when software is produced before being defined and can be extended in any way | Oct 12 23:36 |
DaemonFC | :) | Oct 12 23:36 |
cubezzz | ah, people never learned X | Oct 12 23:36 |
cubezzz | they don't use xlib directly these days, and they don't understand .Xdefaults | Oct 12 23:38 |
cubezzz | I admit, it's pretty complicated | Oct 12 23:38 |
schestowitz | i never even touch that file | Oct 12 23:41 |
schestowitz | what do you use in motif. Do you develop with/for it? | Oct 12 23:41 |
cubezzz | I develop stuff yes | Oct 12 23:42 |
schestowitz | I think wms like twm might still use it | Oct 12 23:42 |
schestowitz | why not use gtk then? | Oct 12 23:42 |
schestowitz | I used gtk, you can also use glade if you don't want to do it by hand | Oct 12 23:42 |
cubezzz | well for one thing, I wanted to write something that would work on old Linux and new Linux both | Oct 12 23:42 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: _Goblin Oh dear someone who used to use Mandriva for years, is now packaging for Kubuntu | Oct 12 23:42 |
cubezzz | motif seemed to be the oldest, and it's still works on new Linux | Oct 12 23:43 |
_Goblin | no bad thing... is it? | Oct 12 23:43 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: yep that's a bad thing | Oct 12 23:43 |
sebsebseb | I think | Oct 12 23:43 |
sebsebseb | really | Oct 12 23:43 |
_Goblin | why? | Oct 12 23:43 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: since he would be better off helping with a smaller distro such as Mageia | Oct 12 23:43 |
sebsebseb | really | Oct 12 23:43 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: Ubuntu has loads of people and loads of money already | Oct 12 23:44 |
_Goblin | or making a bigger one better..? - Last time I checked Mandriva wasn't doing too bad either | Oct 12 23:44 |
sebsebseb | helping with smaller distros would be more construcitve I think | Oct 12 23:44 |
sebsebseb | :) | Oct 12 23:44 |
sebsebseb | now days | Oct 12 23:44 |
sebsebseb | for people who are going to start helipng with a distro | Oct 12 23:44 |
_Goblin | sebsebseb: I don't think it has loads of money...last I heard it still requires Shuttleworth funds... | Oct 12 23:44 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: true, but it's the most hyped up one and all that | Oct 12 23:44 |
sebsebseb | other distros :D | Oct 12 23:44 |
sebsebseb | anyway 11.10 comes out | Oct 12 23:45 |
cubezzz | there's layers to Linux that not many people even know about | Oct 12 23:45 |
sebsebseb | and I really do think, quite a lot of the more expereinced users will be off to other distros | Oct 12 23:45 |
_Goblin | sebsebseb: but then Linux needs a focal point for new users otherwise the sheer diversity of linux can put many off | Oct 12 23:45 |
sebsebseb | since Unity and no Gnome 2 anymore, and some may leave for other reasons as well such as Software Centre offering propritary software for sale | Oct 12 23:45 |
_Goblin | its a little like how Firefox got people off IE and then got them looking at other browsers. | Oct 12 23:45 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: Linux Mint is a much better distro to start a new user on really than Ubuntu itself now, unless someone likes Unity of course | Oct 12 23:45 |
_Goblin | but its based on Ubuntu is it not? | Oct 12 23:46 |
sebsebseb | yep, and a version based on Debian | Oct 12 23:46 |
schestowitz | [23:44] <_Goblin> sebsebseb: I don't think it has loads of money...last I heard it still requires Shuttleworth funds... << there seem to be contradictory reports abut whether it still operates at a loss or not, but it's a private company, so it's not easy to tell | Oct 12 23:46 |
sebsebseb | ,but it's Ubuntu done right basically :D | Oct 12 23:46 |
cubezzz | the canonical operating system does everything you want and in the simplest way | Oct 12 23:46 |
_Goblin | so then many others benefit from Canonical being big? | Oct 12 23:46 |
DaemonFC | KDE gets this reputation for bloat, but most of that is just caused by system services of questionable importance | Oct 12 23:46 |
DaemonFC | which can be shut off | Oct 12 23:46 |
DaemonFC | :) | Oct 12 23:46 |
sebsebseb | cubezzz: and some distros are much more easy to use than Ubuntu itself, quite a few I can think of, for most users | Oct 12 23:46 |
sebsebseb | really | Oct 12 23:46 |
DaemonFC | that kde lowfat configuration is pretty nice really | Oct 12 23:46 |
cubezzz | you want old fat? | Oct 12 23:47 |
cubezzz | mwm | Oct 12 23:47 |
_Goblin | so really the chap helping Ubuntu is good, since it means not only do canonical win but so do all the other distros (some small) derived from it. | Oct 12 23:47 |
cubezzz | that's low fat :) | Oct 12 23:47 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: no most other distros do not really win at all, when Ubuntu steals most of the users | Oct 12 23:47 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: and so developers as well | Oct 12 23:47 |
sebsebseb | for Desktop Linux as a whole ditrowise | Oct 12 23:47 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: the smaller distros would be much better for example, if they had more develoeprs, but nope, quite a lot will just go for Ubuntu for example | Oct 12 23:48 |
_Goblin | But if we agree that many distros are derived from Ubuntu and the work of its volunteers...its not just canonical that win is it? | Oct 12 23:48 |
sebsebseb | packagers and such I mean | Oct 12 23:48 |
_Goblin | alot of distros use the Canonical repos | Oct 12 23:48 |
cubezzz | all the distros are pretty bloated | Oct 12 23:48 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: and most of the distros based on Ubuntu are quite pointless really, with the exception of Linux Mint, and I think Trisquel from what I been reading and such is probably an exception as well | Oct 12 23:48 |
DaemonFC | _Goblin: The core Ubuntu system is mostly just Debian Sid | Oct 12 23:48 |
_Goblin | so probably more people will benefit from the chap packaging from them... | Oct 12 23:48 |
DaemonFC | I think some people base off Ubuntu for the PR value | Oct 12 23:48 |
sebsebseb | DaemonFC: bingo | Oct 12 23:49 |
cubezzz | Fedora gets fatter and fatter | Oct 12 23:49 |
sebsebseb | DaemonFC: exactly they base off Ubuntu, because it's so popular | Oct 12 23:49 |
_Goblin | I think the FSF would disagree... | Oct 12 23:49 |
_Goblin | isn't DYNE:Bolic based off Ubuntu? | Oct 12 23:49 |
cubezzz | 512 megs no longer enough | Oct 12 23:49 |
_Goblin | and thats recommended by the FSF | Oct 12 23:49 |
sebsebseb | I am really hopeing | Oct 12 23:49 |
sebsebseb | things become more general soon | Oct 12 23:49 |
sebsebseb | as in | Oct 12 23:49 |
DaemonFC | Trisquel is based on Ubuntu and recommended by the FSF | Oct 12 23:50 |
sebsebseb | quite a lot of new users, coming to other distros who used to use Ubuntu for years | Oct 12 23:50 |
DaemonFC | since my video is a frame buffer | Oct 12 23:50 |
DaemonFC | and my network won't work | Oct 12 23:50 |
sebsebseb | and I think it's liley to happen, read quite a lot of this stuff on the web | Oct 12 23:50 |
_Goblin | DaemonFC: yep, forgot about that one | Oct 12 23:50 |
DaemonFC | :) | Oct 12 23:50 |
schestowitz | Approved or "Recommended"? | Oct 12 23:50 |
sebsebseb | a lot of people not happy with the direction Ubuntu is going in now Unity and so on | Oct 12 23:50 |
_Goblin | I thought recommended | Oct 12 23:50 |
DaemonFC | anything the FSF recommends, stay away | Oct 12 23:50 |
_Goblin | We were talking about that tonight... | Oct 12 23:50 |
sebsebseb | I want users to ideally choose their own distro as well | Oct 12 23:50 |
DaemonFC | it just means your computer won't work | Oct 12 23:50 |
sebsebseb | not just go for the one that is most hyped up | Oct 12 23:50 |
_Goblin | in reference to Unity, it seems theres been a change in acceptance now its become more mature | Oct 12 23:50 |
schestowitz | RMS' "yes sirrie" list | Oct 12 23:50 |
cubezzz | you have to do certification testing... | Oct 12 23:50 |
sebsebseb | or the second most huyped or maybe 3rd hyped up, but ideally for most new users, do some proper resarch about distros, then pick a distro them selves | Oct 12 23:50 |
cubezzz | you can't just say Blankity-blank works on new systems | Oct 12 23:51 |
schestowitz | siree | Oct 12 23:51 |
_Goblin | sebsebseb: its a nice idea, but in reality it doesn't work | Oct 12 23:51 |
sebsebseb | like I did in 2004, I had to dom some reasrch about distros and then decide what to go for | Oct 12 23:51 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: it used to work before more | Oct 12 23:51 |
DaemonFC | There's some distributions that make decisions about nonfree software or drivers without asking the user though | Oct 12 23:51 |
DaemonFC | and I think that is wrong | Oct 12 23:51 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: ,but then Ubuntu got all hyped and all that | Oct 12 23:51 |
DaemonFC | Sabayon is one of them | Oct 12 23:51 |
_Goblin | sebsebseb: a new user not only has to pick a distro, but then has to consider gnome KDE et al...for someone non tech interested and been running Windows, thats a frightening place. | Oct 12 23:52 |
DaemonFC | offering it and preinstalling it are two different things | Oct 12 23:52 |
cubezzz | will your old distro still work well on old computers? Probably not | Oct 12 23:52 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: yep, but can resarch that whilst at it | Oct 12 23:52 |
cubezzz | err, new distro I meant | Oct 12 23:52 |
_Goblin | sebsebseb: But if Linux is never hyped then it can never hope to be heard over MS or Apple | Oct 12 23:52 |
_Goblin | sebsebseb: fight fire with fire. | Oct 12 23:52 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: Ubuntu is hype, there are many other distros, that really for many new users to Desktop Linux, would be just as good for them, or better even for some | Oct 12 23:52 |
cubezzz | so you only know the outside layer of the onion | Oct 12 23:52 |
DaemonFC | throwing in FGLRX without asking is bad, it causes a lot of problems I would rather not deal with | Oct 12 23:52 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: also many people think Linux = Ubuntu now really | Oct 12 23:52 |
_Goblin | sebsebseb: I'd agree theres many distros that new users can find easy however.... | Oct 12 23:53 |
DaemonFC | but there's a few distros that go this route over the "it just works" argument | Oct 12 23:53 |
_Goblin | sebsebseb: Ubuntu has a very established and large community which for a new user who is unsure, is probably far better.... | Oct 12 23:53 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: Linux does not = Ubuntu Linux = a kerenl and distros = choice, and the user should do some reasarch ideally and choose their own distro :) | Oct 12 23:53 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: depends | Oct 12 23:53 |
_Goblin | sebsebseb: Its Linux != Ubuntu and of course.....but if Ubuntu is a focal point for new users that no bad thing... | Oct 12 23:54 |
DaemonFC | I'd like to see a SUSE Studio type thing based on Fedora or Debian or Ubuntu | Oct 12 23:54 |
_Goblin | yep | Oct 12 23:54 |
_Goblin | DaemonFC: I said that the other night | Oct 12 23:54 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: however that's the general idea, oh Ubuntu has such a huge community, so that distro must be realyl great, that's what the average end user would think, but uh that's a bit like saying oh Windows is so great, because it has most users out of any OS | Oct 12 23:54 |
schestowitz | Ubuntu is a *Particular* Penguin | Oct 12 23:54 |
schestowitz | Just not a particularly polite one :-) | Oct 12 23:54 |
cubezzz | exactly, you can't say McDonalds is the best restaurant either | Oct 12 23:55 |
cubezzz | just the most common | Oct 12 23:55 |
sebsebseb | cubezzz: in reply to me? | Oct 12 23:55 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: Ubuntu Forums is the sewer | Oct 12 23:55 |
schestowitz | you can't say McDonalds is the best restaurant | Oct 12 23:55 |
DaemonFC | if you say you dislike Unity, someone pipes in and tells you to use Windows | Oct 12 23:55 |
schestowitz | you can't say McDonalds is a restaurant | Oct 12 23:55 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Colombus could have been Greek http://identi.ca/url/54082429 !science | Oct 12 23:55 | |
DaemonFC | as I pointed out the other day | Oct 12 23:55 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Columbus Day: The Theory Supporting that Christopher Columbus Was Greek | USA.GreekReporter.com .::. Size~: 45.08 KB | Oct 12 23:55 |
cubezzz | is windows an OS, or just a control mechanism? | Oct 12 23:55 |
DaemonFC | they're very hostile to users | Oct 12 23:55 |
schestowitz | no more than a hot dog stand | Oct 12 23:55 |
DaemonFC | they have this arbitrary pecking order | Oct 12 23:55 |
_Goblin | sebsebseb: well as a starting point it may well be... but in terms of amount of users you misunderstood what I meant, what I mean is that a large community makes people feel more secured with having so many people to get advice from....a new user does not want to believe that they are in a small group.....they want to know theres plenty of help about. | Oct 12 23:55 |
cubezzz | I live in a Linux house | Oct 12 23:56 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: Ubuntu Forums deleted Kubuntu's subform a while back | Oct 12 23:56 |
_Goblin | cubezzz: me too | Oct 12 23:56 |
DaemonFC | the official Kubuntu forum is kubuntuforums.net | Oct 12 23:56 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: yeah that's true | Oct 12 23:56 |
cubezzz | so there's lots of support :) | Oct 12 23:56 |
Diablo-D3 | so | Oct 12 23:56 |
schestowitz | subform? | Oct 12 23:56 |
Diablo-D3 | I tried gnome 3 | Oct 12 23:56 |
DaemonFC | some sneaky little parking page is on the .org one | Oct 12 23:56 |
Diablo-D3 | DEAR LORD DOES IT.. wait, let me dent this | Oct 12 23:56 |
DaemonFC | *subforum | Oct 12 23:56 |
_Goblin | cubezzz: does a broken x360 still mean I live in a MS household? | Oct 12 23:56 |
schestowitz | cue dick remark | Oct 12 23:56 |
cubezzz | _Goblin, I'll give you a free pass | Oct 12 23:57 |
_Goblin | :) | Oct 12 23:57 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Enron whistle-blower praises rise of WikiLeaks http://t.co/wxyf98jZ | Oct 12 23:57 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 12 23:57 |
DaemonFC | I think they're doing these things to make Kubuntu seem less supported by Canonical | Oct 12 23:57 |
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DaemonFC | like the only "right" choice is what they tell you to use in Ubuntu | Oct 12 23:57 |
Diablo-D3 | [06:56:40] <_Goblin> cubezzz: does a broken x360 still mean I live in a MS household? | Oct 12 23:57 |
Diablo-D3 | well, what else would you prop the couch up with? | Oct 12 23:57 |
_Goblin | thats true.... | Oct 12 23:57 |
_Goblin | or get stuff out of cupboards... | Oct 12 23:58 |
Diablo-D3 | or use as a cupholder | Oct 12 23:58 |
_Goblin | although, its case is rather flimsy. | Oct 12 23:58 |
*Diablo-D3 should register "doesmy360stillhavearedringofdeath.com" -> "Yes." | Oct 12 23:58 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] I tried Gnome 3, it sucks badly. Home sweet !XFCE. Gnome 3 has no place on !Linux | Oct 12 23:58 | |
cubezzz | hey, my Sega Genesis still works | Oct 12 23:59 |
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