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cubezzzold tech wins again! Oct 13 00:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Enron whistle-blower praises rise of !WikiLeaks http://ur1.ca/5e0s6Oct 13 00:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Enron whistle-blower praises rise of WikiLeaks - Business - The Buffalo News .::. Size~: 79.46 KBOct 13 00:00
sebsebseb_Goblin: anyway this guys reasons for packaging for Kubunt useem quite valid actsaulelyOct 13 00:00
cubezzzGnome 2 was OKOct 13 00:02
cubezzzI can live with itOct 13 00:02
DaemonFCTheir refurbishment center is in Texas, about 10 miles from the Mexican border. Probably makes it cheaper to dump the fried motherboards in a pit in Mexico somewhereOct 13 00:02
_Goblinschestowitz: RE: The email....can you PM me her new username?  so I can add on G+Oct 13 00:02
cubezzzthings were really made better in the "old days"Oct 13 00:03
cubezzzno doubt about itOct 13 00:03
DaemonFC_Goblin: I've been trying to block all that Google Plus spam that crops up everywhereOct 13 00:03
DaemonFCanother way to web bug every site while pretending it's a legitimate serviceOct 13 00:03
_GoblinYeah, I had to appologise to a few people about that...Oct 13 00:03
Diablo-D3why gnome2 when you can xfce?Oct 13 00:03
_GoblinI didn't realize it was spamming them when I posted...Oct 13 00:04
_GoblinWhy G+ when you can Diaspora?Oct 13 00:04
_Goblinhey.....NEW GAME ALERT !!!!!Oct 13 00:04
cubezzzI'm using xfce on this boxOct 13 00:04
Diablo-D3why diaspora when you can just hate peopleOct 13 00:04
_Goblinnah...you can't have that one...you have to offer alternativeOct 13 00:04
cubezzzbut I like to try different distros/wmsOct 13 00:04
_GoblinWhy Windows when you can Linux?Oct 13 00:04
_GoblinWhy IE when you can Firefox?Oct 13 00:05
schestowitz_Goblin: starts with WOct 13 00:05
schestowitzin the subject lineOct 13 00:05
schestowitzAFAIKOct 13 00:05
Diablo-D3er, that IS an alternativeOct 13 00:05
Diablo-D3I reject social networkingOct 13 00:05
DaemonFCI have Fanboy's Annoyances list in my adblock subscriptionsOct 13 00:05
schestowitzyou use identicaOct 13 00:05
DaemonFCit covers G+ spamOct 13 00:05
schestowitzit's sort of like that..Oct 13 00:05
DaemonFCand many other thingsOct 13 00:05
Diablo-D3I use identica just for an easy to use shortlist of urlsOct 13 00:06
Diablo-D3and other small blurbsOct 13 00:06
Diablo-D3I dont actually use it twitter-like.Oct 13 00:06
_Goblinschestowitz: Nope.... theres one person who I wasn't following with a J for a name....surname was not W thoughOct 13 00:07
DaemonFCthis web advertising and profiling crap just keeps getting worse. I remember when I maintained my own ad blocking hosts file (which is stupid and primitive but it was the late 90s), it was under 90 kilobytes of plain taxt, and that's banning domains and sub domains one by one with no wildcards or substitutions or anythingOct 13 00:07
DaemonFCnow a decent adblock plus list, which does have these space saving features is roughly 200 K or soOct 13 00:07
cubezzzthe www itself is rather pollutedOct 13 00:07
cubezzza good idea gone astrayOct 13 00:08
schestowitz_Goblin: I mailed you the nameOct 13 00:08
schestowitzdidn't see the PMOct 13 00:08
_GoblincoolOct 13 00:08
cubezzzit would be nice if keyboards had a help button, like in the old daysOct 13 00:09
DaemonFCcubezzz: I optimized my list as much as possible, I remembered discovering that DNS lookups on Windows fail more quickly if you set something to resolve to 0.0.0.0 than 127.0.0.1Oct 13 00:09
_Goblinyeah...I never made the connection, however I only copy my posts from Diaspora to G+ and pay very little attention to G+ nowOct 13 00:09
DaemonFCso I started using that, since it is simply invalidOct 13 00:09
_Goblin(sorry....last msg was aimed at Roy)Oct 13 00:10
DaemonFCI even had a section for sites that I felt were distributing spyware, such as Go ZillaOct 13 00:10
DaemonFCand Wild TangentOct 13 00:10
cubezzzDaemonFC, you might want to try NoScript with FirefoxOct 13 00:11
cubezzzit covers the bases pretty wellOct 13 00:11
DaemonFCNoScript breaks too many things, and the author is a bit controversialOct 13 00:11
DaemonFCanyone who goes and attacks another add-on so his own advertisements will show, is not someone who I want any software fromOct 13 00:12
cubezzzwell you can whitelist sitesOct 13 00:12
cubezzzit's not all or nothingOct 13 00:12
DaemonFCthat's only the one problem solvedOct 13 00:12
DaemonFCI don't like the authorOct 13 00:12
DaemonFChe slipped a trojan horse into Adblock Plus to make it allow his own ads throughOct 13 00:13
DaemonFCand it caused Adblock Plus to malfunction on other sitesOct 13 00:13
DaemonFCMozilla even had to make a new rule for add-ons over thatOct 13 00:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Just recorded another #techbytes episode, encoding 4 versions now, will publish everything tomorrow.Oct 13 00:13
DaemonFCit was only after he got called out for that that he switched to slipping in a whitelist for adblock plusOct 13 00:14
DaemonFCbut he made it so if the user found it and removed it, it would just reinstall itself next time Firefox openedOct 13 00:14
DaemonFCthen he got flak for that, and only after that did he give upOct 13 00:15
DaemonFCa person who makes a security add-on that attacks a privacy/security add-on is a hypocrite Oct 13 00:15
DaemonFCand the user is his real victimOct 13 00:15
DaemonFCthe fact that he didn't have a problem doing it once makes me wonder if he'll start up again some dayOct 13 00:16
DaemonFCand what he'll decide to manipulate MY browser with nextOct 13 00:16
DaemonFCyou don't get your credibility back by telling people you're sorry you got caughtOct 13 00:16
DaemonFChe even went so far in his apology letter as to lie to portray himself as the victim of Adblock PlusOct 13 00:17
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DaemonFCDuck Duck Go's XMPP server is a little flaky Oct 13 00:19
DaemonFCI've decided to just stay signed in to Google Talk too and use it as a backupOct 13 00:20
DaemonFCI use OTR with both of themOct 13 00:20
schestowitzI don't care for DDG for nowOct 13 00:22
schestowitzbut..Oct 13 00:22
schestowitzSomeone contacted them to created a command for techrights searchOct 13 00:22
schestowitzWhich they addedOct 13 00:22
schestowitzhe copied me on itOct 13 00:22
cubezzzwiki is reporting 2.25% Linux market shareOct 13 00:22
schestowitzwhen DDG drops the MSFT dependency, I shall use itOct 13 00:23
schestowitzDaemonFC: you said you were working on thatOct 13 00:23
schestowitzcubezzz: URL?Oct 13 00:23
schestowitz_Goblin: The State of #Diaspora and Fundraising Round Two http://www.readwriteweb.com/cloud/2011/10/the-state-of-diaspora-and-fund.phOct 13 00:23
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 404 Not FoundOct 13 00:23
schestowitzbtw, diaspora has a freenode channel that I'm onOct 13 00:23
cubezzzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systemsOct 13 00:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Usage share of operating systems - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 127.43 KBOct 13 00:23
DaemonFCschestowitz: https://duckduckgo.com/bang.htmlOct 13 00:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Duck Duck !Bang .::. Size~: 60.14 KBOct 13 00:24
DaemonFCI find these incredibly usefulOct 13 00:24
schestowitzbing?Oct 13 00:25
schestowitzcousin of ballmerOct 13 00:25
schestowitzSay "bang" or be firedOct 13 00:25
schestowitzBallmer: BANG BANG"Oct 13 00:25
schestowitzBallmer: Shot ta down, biatch"Oct 13 00:25
_Goblinschestowitz: is that a bad link or an indicator of unsucessful fund raising - "Fundraising Round Two" - Page Not FoundOct 13 00:26
DaemonFCSteve Ballmer in the conference room with a chairOct 13 00:26
DaemonFCI win!Oct 13 00:26
schestowitzhttp://www.readwriteweb.com/cloud/2011/10/the-state-of-diaspora-and-fund.phpOct 13 00:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The State of Diaspora and Fundraising Round Two - ReadWriteCloud .::. Size~: 52.48 KBOct 13 00:26
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schestowitzI pasted poorlyOct 13 00:26
_Goblinschestowitz: :) I was being flippant!Oct 13 00:26
_Goblinafter last night and the typo's commentsOct 13 00:26
DaemonFCI SAID SAY BING!!!!! BING!!!! BING!!!! (while whacking the guy with the chair)Oct 13 00:27
schestowitzBallmer is the chaim manOct 13 00:27
schestowitzchairOct 13 00:27
schestowitzDaemonFC: is there a bang bing bong?Oct 13 00:27
DaemonFC!bingOct 13 00:27
DaemonFC:)Oct 13 00:28
schestowitzsounds similar to BongOct 13 00:28
DaemonFCSearch: !ask !bing (!b) !blekko !ddg !dogpile !ecosia !entireweb !everyclick !exalead !fuzz !geegain !goosh !kazazz !mamma !myallsearch !redz !seznam !smallsafari !spezify !start !startpage !swagbucks !yahoo (!y !yjp) !yandex (!ya !yaen !yandexm) !yeahway !yippy !unscatter Oct 13 00:28
schestowitzBTW:Oct 13 00:28
schestowitzin KDE there are shorthands tooOct 13 00:28
schestowitzAnd it lets you create new onesOct 13 00:28
DaemonFC!g, !gn, !gg, !giOct 13 00:29
DaemonFCgoogle, google news, google groups, google imagesOct 13 00:29
DaemonFCI use those sometimesOct 13 00:29
schestowitzyandex still sounds like a product for womenOct 13 00:29
DaemonFCand menOct 13 00:29
schestowitzonly if they have a cycleOct 13 00:30
DaemonFC!firefox or !amo will search firefox add-onsOct 13 00:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] At Wikipedia's articxle "Usage share of operating systems" #Linux is said to have 2.25%Oct 13 00:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Phew, long day today...long week! Tomorrow...we release! :-) #ubuntuOct 13 00:32
DaemonFChttp://view.dukgo.com/base/welcomeOct 13 00:33
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DaemonFCLMAO!!!!Oct 13 00:33
schestowitzjono: you go, tigerOct 13 00:36
schestowitzi Mean... OcelotOct 13 00:36
jonoschestowitz heheOct 13 00:36
jonothis has been a long weekOct 13 00:36
jonofor sureOct 13 00:36
DaemonFCjono is a pangolinOct 13 00:36
schestowitzwill the release rock?Oct 13 00:36
schestowitzfor kubuntu?Oct 13 00:36
DaemonFCthe lion things it is getting a crunchy snackOct 13 00:36
jonoDaemonFC, jono is a lifeless husk of a human being right nowOct 13 00:36
DaemonFCbut jono tells it how AWESOME Unity isOct 13 00:36
schestowitzDaemonFC: crouching tooOct 13 00:36
DaemonFCand it runs awayOct 13 00:36
jonoschestowitz not sure for Kubuntu, I havent testedOct 13 00:36
DaemonFCschestowitz: I have been using Kubuntu 11.0 for a while nowOct 13 00:37
sebsebsebschestowitz: apparantly Kubuntu is meant to be pretty good in 11.10Oct 13 00:37
DaemonFCit's goodOct 13 00:37
schestowitzwe need to put jono on that reddit meme with man on computer and wife a doorOct 13 00:37
DaemonFC*11.10Oct 13 00:37
schestowitzthe wife says, it's 4am already, jono says.. but unity.. it's COMIGNOct 13 00:37
schestowitzsebsebseb: 4.7.1?Oct 13 00:38
schestowitzor 7.0?Oct 13 00:38
sebsebsebschestowitz: not sureOct 13 00:38
schestowitzHarald Sitter worked on making 4.7  fit inOct 13 00:38
DaemonFCKDE - Be Free!Oct 13 00:38
schestowitznot sure if they use the latest patched oneOct 13 00:38
DaemonFCPlatform Version 4.7.2 (4.7.2)Oct 13 00:38
DaemonFCor I could have just doneOct 13 00:39
DaemonFCSysinfo for 'ryan-MS-7501': Linux 3.0.0-12-generic running KDE Development Platform 4.7.2 (4.7.2), CPU: AMDPhenomIIX4945 at 800 MHz (5987 bogomips), HD: 27/923GB, RAM: 2227/8001MB, 166 proc's, 3.15h upOct 13 00:39
*schestowitz grumpyOct 13 00:39
DaemonFC64-bit Flash 11 is in the Ubuntu partner repo nowOct 13 00:41
DaemonFCat least the damned thing will keep itself updated nowOct 13 00:41
schestowitzUpdated malwareOct 13 00:42
schestowitzdoesn't sound so thrillijng to meOct 13 00:42
schestowitzit can dodge dig sigs detectorsOct 13 00:42
DaemonFCwell, considering there's a new critical vulnerability or 12 every few daysOct 13 00:42
DaemonFCit's a pain to keep updated by handOct 13 00:42
schestowitzDaemonFC: how\'s your bro?Oct 13 00:43
schestowitzwhat OS does he use?Oct 13 00:43
DaemonFChttp://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-20119265-263/latest-adobe-flash-trojan-for-os-x-gets-revised/Oct 13 00:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Latest Adobe Flash Trojan for OS X gets revised | MacFixIt - CNET Reviews .::. Size~: 74.58 KBOct 13 00:43
DaemonFCschestowitz: I installed Xubuntu for himOct 13 00:43
schestowitzhttp://penguinpetes.com/b2evo/index.php?title=a_linux_user_s_perspective_on_why_i_neve&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1Oct 13 00:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Penguin Pete's Blog - A Linux User's Perspective On Why I Never Had A Problem With Steve Jobs .::. Size~: 27.96 KBOct 13 00:43
DaemonFCI customized it a lot thoughOct 13 00:44
DaemonFCI hid the Ubuntu Software CenterOct 13 00:44
DaemonFCand put a link to Synaptic insteadOct 13 00:44
DaemonFCI can't stand that software center thingOct 13 00:45
schestowitzoh, that..Oct 13 00:45
schestowitzI forgot that did thatOct 13 00:45
schestowitzbtwOct 13 00:45
DaemonFCbuggy, bloated, ridiculously dumbed downOct 13 00:45
schestowitzin kubuntuOct 13 00:45
schestowitzlts (10.0)Oct 13 00:45
schestowitzthe packagejit sucksOct 13 00:45
DaemonFCMuon Suite in Kubuntu is quite nice thoughOct 13 00:45
schestowitzlooks good with qt, but many packages not found in itOct 13 00:45
DaemonFCit replaced packagekit in 11.10Oct 13 00:45
schestowitzI knowOct 13 00:46
DaemonFCyeah, there's the Muon Software Center and the Muon Package ManagerOct 13 00:46
DaemonFCthe Muon Package Manager is kind of a Synaptic for KDE kind of thingOct 13 00:46
DaemonFCI love itOct 13 00:46
schestowitzIt's a nice nameOct 13 00:46
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DaemonFCI wouldn't hate Ubuntu quite so bad if they did something like MuonOct 13 00:47
DaemonFCinstead of a bloated software center for idiots that usually crashes in the middle of installing a packageOct 13 00:48
DaemonFCalso, their decision to pollute their menus in Unity with random software that you could installOct 13 00:48
DaemonFCthat is pointlessOct 13 00:48
DaemonFCclutterOct 13 00:48
DaemonFCif the user wants to install software, let them open something, find it, and install itOct 13 00:49
DaemonFCdon't spam their application menus with stuff they weren't looking forOct 13 00:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Debian With KDE: New Review http://ur1.ca/5e1hnOct 13 00:49
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schestowitzDaemonFC: what's the windows equiv.? :-)Oct 13 00:53
DaemonFCof what?Oct 13 00:53
schestowitzmuonOct 13 00:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Nick Barcet: Ubuntu, the only web server OS showing growth? http://is.gd/1eR82bOct 13 00:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fourth Fedora Design Bounty Ninja identified! http://is.gd/XtXPiv #fedoraOct 13 00:55
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fourth Fedora Design Bounty Ninja identified! «  Máirín Duffy .::. Size~: 28.95 KBOct 13 00:55
DaemonFCoh, you just download EXEs or MSIs from dozens of different websitesOct 13 00:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] MTV's "Paramore: Vitals Statistics" Mentions Mind Control Symbolism in Music Videos | The Vigilant Citizen #xfiles #nwo http://goo.gl/dxOFrOct 13 01:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Russia/China Signal Major Offensive on U.S. Global Dominance (video) | COLLAPSENET #collapse #bankingsystem http://goo.gl/bNPPYOct 13 01:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] If You Want to Stop Crime in America Start in the White House and Work Your Way Down #usa #bankingsystem http://goo.gl/8WiciOct 13 01:33
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cubezzzhttp://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/5552.htmlOct 13 01:38
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cubezzzMicrosoft requires that machines conforming to windows 8 ship with secure boot enabledOct 13 01:38
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schestowitzcubezzz: if they are allowed to make this requestOct 13 01:55
schestowitzAAAC was informedOct 13 01:55
schestowitzantitrustOct 13 01:55
schestowitzMicrosoft doesn't care about the lawOct 13 01:55
cubezzzI'll make sure my bios is socketedOct 13 01:56
cubezzzstuff like this is why I'm into CorebootOct 13 01:56
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cubezzzSamsung is include "disable secure boot"Oct 13 01:57
cubezzzis includingOct 13 01:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Bed for me. Up in five. Night!Oct 13 01:58
cubezzzthe cryptographically signed bios... I knew it was comingOct 13 01:58
cubezzzit's on some motherboards alreadyOct 13 01:58
cubezzzthe problem is some motherboards will not have "disable secure boot"Oct 13 01:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] #ACTA has been signed by 8 of 11 participating countries -- now what? https://eff.org/r.D7GOct 13 02:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Facing Closure, OpenOffice.org Makes a Plea for Survival http://ur1.ca/5e2z5Oct 13 02:25
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DaemonFChttp://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/world/52713003-68/alabama-law-state-latinos.html.cspOct 13 02:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Alabama Latinos protest new law on immigration      | The Salt Lake Tribune .::. Size~: 117.13 KBOct 13 02:38
abeNd-orgthat is bunkOct 13 02:38
abeNd-orglegal immigration is the reason this country is the way it is, there is nothing wrong with the concept of legal immigration. Now the process needs to be a bit more streamlined. However "illegal immigration" is, well, illegal......no reason someone who wades a river & drops a kid on US soil should be considered for citizenship before someone going through the proper processesOct 13 02:39
abeNd-orgoh, wait, i forgot, i am considered racist for thinking thatOct 13 02:42
cubezzzI'm an immigrantOct 13 02:42
cubezzzI immigranted in 1967 to CanadaOct 13 02:42
abeNd-orgdoesnt matter that i think the same thing for anyone going to any country, say if i hit up s.korea, got in illegally, and demanded the govt bend to my will & make me a legal citizenOct 13 02:43
abeNd-orgas i said, nothing wrong with legal immigration, comply to the immigration laws of whichever country you are going toOct 13 02:43
abeNd-orggo illegally to any country and that is badOct 13 02:44
abeNd-org"duh"Oct 13 02:44
abeNd-orgotherwise they wouldnt preface it with "illegal"Oct 13 02:44
DaemonFCthat's why you call them undocumented, that way it just sounds like the dog ate their homeworkOct 13 02:50
DaemonFC:)Oct 13 02:50
abeNd-orgundocumented, what a BS politically correct termOct 13 02:51
DrPizzathe "proper process" is a total cluster fuck that most historic american immigrants would never be eligible forOct 13 02:51
DrPizzaincluding the slavesOct 13 02:51
abeNd-orgyes, as i said, that needs to be fixedOct 13 02:51
DaemonFCDrPizza: The slaves were made legal by constitutional amendmentOct 13 02:52
DaemonFCand they were brought here against their willOct 13 02:52
DaemonFC:)Oct 13 02:52
abeNd-orgbut that is no reason for someone entering the country illegally to get citizenship before someone going through the proper channelsOct 13 02:52
abeNd-orgDaemonFC: and usually sold out by their own people in the first placeOct 13 02:52
abeNd-orgbut no one ever wants to admit that...Oct 13 02:53
abeNd-orgoh, wait, that is me being racist again /me rolls his eyesOct 13 02:53
DaemonFCit doesn't take a constitutional amendment to set citizenship requirementsOct 13 02:53
DrPizzaDaemonFC: yes, but whilst the US currently has temporary immigration status for people trafficked against their will (T-1, T-2, T-3, T-4 visas) it does not give them automatic citizenshipOct 13 02:53
DaemonFCthe constitution gives that power to congressOct 13 02:53
DrPizzaDaemonFC: only in certain situations are they allowed to stay in the countryOct 13 02:53
DaemonFCwell, I just think there's this huge double standardOct 13 02:54
DrPizzaabeNd-org: apart from T visas (which, if granted, give you a 3 year tmeporary visa after which you can apply for a green card) which people entering illegally get citizenship before those who go through proper channels?Oct 13 02:54
DrPizzaDaemonFC: I agreeOct 13 02:55
abeNd-orgamnesty?Oct 13 02:55
DaemonFCyou hear people from other countries telling the US we should just let anyone come here and plant themselvesOct 13 02:55
DaemonFCbut they don't have policies like that themselvesOct 13 02:55
DrPizzaDaemonFC: no, I think all countries should.Oct 13 02:55
abeNd-orgDaemonFC: no, mexico shoots people entering the country illegally from their southern borders....Oct 13 02:55
DrPizzaabeNd-org: the 1986 amnesty?Oct 13 02:55
abeNd-orgDrPizza: and how they keep trying to get that pushed through again these daysOct 13 02:56
DaemonFCnations typically have an immigration policy set up so that people they deem desirable can enter and stayOct 13 02:56
DrPizzadefine "they"Oct 13 02:56
DaemonFCand people who are wanting to sponge off the welfare system stay outOct 13 02:56
DaemonFCbut liberalism says that's unfairOct 13 02:56
abeNd-organd the lovely liberals label you racist if you dont think you should open up your pocket book to everyone who marches across illegallyOct 13 02:57
DaemonFCCanada wouldn't let me walk in and say "I'm here, give me welfare" so why can they criticize the US for not letting Mexicans do that to us?Oct 13 02:57
DaemonFCif the law was applied, there's be millions of Mexicans back in Mexico right nowOct 13 02:58
DaemonFCdrug dealers support the local economyOct 13 02:58
DaemonFCmaybe we should just let them be tooOct 13 02:58
DrPizzaI think that's disingenuous, DaemonFC Oct 13 02:58
DrPizzaI don't think anyone would complain and say "New immigrants had to pay at least <x months> of social security, unemployment insurance, etc. before they can claim welfare"Oct 13 02:59
abeNd-orgoh, thats right, it is racist to say there is a drug problem in mexico or the USOct 13 02:59
DaemonFCmost sane states make you prove you're a citizen before claiming food stamps or medicaidOct 13 03:00
DaemonFCor getting college tuitionOct 13 03:00
DaemonFCof course the Mexicans have the ACLU fighting laws like thatOct 13 03:00
DaemonFCCalifornia is bankrupt but passed the "DREAM Act" anywayOct 13 03:01
DaemonFCmaybe more of them will move out there now :)Oct 13 03:01
abeNd-orgall while saying this country sucksOct 13 03:02
abeNd-orgso, if it i sucks so bad..... LEAVE!Oct 13 03:02
DrPizzaabeNd-org: leave and go where?Oct 13 03:02
DrPizzait is non-trivial to leave the USOct 13 03:03
DrPizza(on a permanent, legal basis)Oct 13 03:03
abeNd-orggo somewhere that you claims sucks less than the USOct 13 03:03
abeNd-orgyou hate the country so much, go elsewhereOct 13 03:03
DrPizzaWhere?Oct 13 03:04
DrPizzaUS citizens do not generally have citizenship of other countries.Oct 13 03:04
abeNd-orgWhy do I have to decide that for someone who hates the US?Oct 13 03:04
abeNd-orggo anywhere, go to mexico illegallyOct 13 03:04
DrPizzaWhat an utterly asinine stance.Oct 13 03:04
abeNd-orgdemand the same things illegals demand hereOct 13 03:04
DrPizzaSo if you don't like something, just quit and lave?Oct 13 03:05
DrPizzaDon't ever try to change it.Oct 13 03:05
DrPizzaJust run away?Oct 13 03:05
abeNd-orgoh come on, you know most of those haters just sit & complain, very few actually attempt to change things (for better or worse)Oct 13 03:05
abeNd-orgkudos to the very few that do try to better themselves & the people around them as well as the countryOct 13 03:06
*`Robotek is now known as `PhoenixOct 13 03:06
abeNd-orgbut most are just a drain on societyOct 13 03:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Kill yourself if you use Turbo C++ - http://ur1.ca/5e41l Almost every student do in IndiaOct 13 04:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] This is some bullshit!Oct 13 05:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #OpenSUSE's #openQA public release http://is.gd/pwo8RY http://openqa.opensuse.org/ also works with #Fedora, #Debian, #FreeBSD. No #Tizen?Oct 13 05:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] :-( rd @alphaque: Dennis Ritchie (1941-2011), creator of C and Unix, RIP. int main() { printf("Goodbye world.\n"); return 0; }Oct 13 05:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @jacobwb Dennis Ritchie is someone who deserves praise, he actually created today's technology, unlike Jobs. !GNU, !Linux, and MacOS, ...Oct 13 05:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @lovenemesis Three members from Creative Commons China will join the !Fedora #FAD 2011 #Beijing. http://ur1.ca/5e4d2Oct 13 05:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] R.I.P Dennis Ritchie, thank you for the #awesomness that is UNIX, and *nixes therefore derived.Oct 13 07:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @jacobwb Dennis Ritchie is someone who deserves praise, he actually created today's technology, unlike Jobs. !GNU, !Linux, and MacOS, ...Oct 13 07:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @fontana My 1 comment on @rms #Jobs thing: do people realize a) he was quoting Harold #Washington on death of elder #Daley, b) who th ...Oct 13 07:51
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iophkhttp://boingboing.net/2011/10/12/dennis-ritchie-1941-2011-computer-scientist-unix-co-creator-c-co-inventor.htmlOct 13 07:56
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schestowitzKDE All Grown Up! http://blogs.fsfe.org/padams/?p=247Oct 13 08:40
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schestowitziophk: will he have a week of media hype?Oct 13 08:43
schestowitzNo, no... silly me.. he wasn't rich enoughOct 13 08:43
iophkmaybe also two - three dozen articles per news source?Oct 13 08:43
iophkseriously there is probably nothing that we have today that his work did not touch.  C is everywhere.Oct 13 08:45
schestowitzHe contributed to society a hundred times and more than Steve Jobs.Oct 13 08:46
schestowitzBut since he wasn't extremely rich, the media will not pay much tributeOct 13 08:46
schestowitzto him.Oct 13 08:46
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iophkHe wasn't much for grabbing the spotlight either.Oct 13 08:47
schestowitzcan someone write a short article for techrights in his memory? I don't know him well enoughOct 13 08:47
schestowitzthough I have photos of him on the siteOct 13 08:48
iophkI never met him either.Oct 13 08:48
iophkhttp://www.levenez.com/unix/Oct 13 08:48
iophkhttp://www.unix.org/what_is_unix/history_timeline.htmlOct 13 08:48
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iophkhttp://www.unix.org/Posters/download/unix_posterA3.pdfOct 13 08:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] One of my favorite artistes of all time @knaan wrote this excellent article for the New York Times http://nd.gd/yoOct 13 08:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Dennis Ritchie was far more important than Steve Jobs http://is.gd/LkWT7M achievements, not wealthOct 13 08:50
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schestowitzI have an ideaOct 13 08:50
schestowitzHow about this?Oct 13 08:50
schestowitzReplace the techrights top banner for a weekOct 13 08:50
schestowitzfor one in memory of him?Oct 13 08:50
iophk+1Oct 13 08:50
schestowitzok, working on it...Oct 13 08:50
iophkUNIX and C are everywhereOct 13 08:50
iophkespecially if one counts Linux.Oct 13 08:51
schestowitzUbuntu 11.10 Out Today http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-11-10-Will-Be-Released-Tomorrow-227286.shtmlUOct 13 08:51
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iophk!google dennis ritchieOct 13 08:52
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Dennis Ritchie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_RitchieOct 13 08:52
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Dennis Ritchie Home Page | http://cm.bell-labs.com/who/dmr/Oct 13 08:52
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Dennis Ritchie Quotes - BrainyQuote | http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/d/dennis_ritchie.htmlOct 13 08:52
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Interview with Dennis Ritchie, Bjarne Stroustrup, James Gosling | http://www.gotw.ca/publications/c_family_interview.htmOct 13 08:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] " ..a ride on which they say life expectancy is about 17 minutes..." http://nd.gd/yoOct 13 08:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "Here, each life ends sadly, too suddenly and casually to be memorialized." http://nd.gd/yoOct 13 08:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] The world's given up on Somalia !AfricaOct 13 08:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] The Tor Browser Bundles have been updated to Vidalia 0.2.15: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/new-tor-browser-bundles-8Oct 13 08:55
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iophkhttp://www.cio.in/news/dennis-ritchie-tech-world-losses-another-pioneer-183982011Oct 13 08:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Also read this : @knaan's journey home http://nd.gd/ypOct 13 08:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Also read this : @knaan's journey home http://nd.gd/ypOct 13 08:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Ubuntu release day! #ubuntuOct 13 09:01
schestowitziophk: flush cacheOct 13 09:03
schestowitzvisit any page in techrights nowOct 13 09:03
iophkUnable to clear cacheOct 13 09:04
iophkCan you clear Varnish or whatever the reverse proxy is?Oct 13 09:05
iophkThat seems to be where the caching is occurring.Oct 13 09:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] To say @knaan is an inspirational artiste is like stating that water is a liquid,to me he is more than that.Oct 13 09:06
schestowitzcss cache is a PITAOct 13 09:10
schestowitzvery persistent oneOct 13 09:10
schestowitzgive it time to expireOct 13 09:10
schestowitzvarnish ain't helpingOct 13 09:10
schestowitzbut browsers too cache it heavily unless you open the CSS in the browser, than hit f5Oct 13 09:10
schestowitz*thenOct 13 09:10
schestowitzanyway, the new banner is on the FS, not on the cache yetOct 13 09:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Sabayon #GNU #Linux Has a New Release http://ur1.ca/5e78eOct 13 09:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] " I take inspiration from the most heinous of situations Creatin' medication out my own tribulations " @knaan - Take a MinuteOct 13 09:11
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iophkDoes it link to a short memorial?  If so, the two UNIX timelines should be linked.Oct 13 09:11
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schestowitz"Some of the most interesting people I've ever met have been on here. It's a wonderful community. " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/604476Oct 13 09:15
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schestowitziophk: no, just a bannerOct 13 09:15
schestowitzwith imagesOct 13 09:15
schestowitzyearsOct 13 09:15
iophkOk.  An in memorium would be nice, even a very short one, because it will be around after the banner is taken down.  As C is everywhere, UNIX is nearly everywhere, nowadays even in phones (iOS and Android)Oct 13 09:17
iophkAside from Wikipedia being updated, there is virtually no news coverage.  I found only two articles.Oct 13 09:18
schestowitzok, doneOct 13 09:22
schestowitztry nowOct 13 09:22
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/?storiesOct 13 09:22
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iophkOk. The new banner shows up. Oct 13 09:23
schestowitz"[citation needed] Seriously though, it's no secret that guaging Linux install numbers accurately is near impossible. "Oct 13 09:23
schestowitzhttp://joindiaspora.com/posts/608109Oct 13 09:23
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schestowitzIndeed it isOct 13 09:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @vanden It's time for pants!Oct 13 09:33
MinceRr4wrOct 13 09:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] This http://ur1.ca/5e4oc and this http://ur1.ca/5e7kj... http://b1t.it/HwIOct 13 09:40
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schestowitzhttp://mrpogson.com/2011/10/12/winehq-org-database-dumped-by-intruder/Oct 13 09:58
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msbschestowitz: Roy, that's a great banner, and a wonderful photo of Ritchie!Oct 13 10:01
iophkmsb: and fast work, tooOct 13 10:02
msbYep!Oct 13 10:02
msbI remember all the free Unix/C software that used to circulate via Usenet in the 80s.Oct 13 10:03
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msbWe are living in the time of the birth of the World Community -- humanity with global communications accessible to almost everyone.Oct 13 10:11
msb"Freedom of speech" used to mean only the ability to speak with a few dozen people personally, or if you had the money to publish a newspaper or book, to more, but slowly.Oct 13 10:13
MinceRor we're in the time of the birth of a new age of global fascismOct 13 10:13
msbNow for $20/month one can have a website and speak with half the people in the World.Oct 13 10:14
iophk"the right of the people peaceably to assemble" use to mean physically meeting as a group, now it is enabled or blocked onlineOct 13 10:14
MinceRuntil they have it taken down or filtered on a country-wide level.Oct 13 10:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK gov admits it has *no* evidence "on the scale & nature of infringement of copyright by websites" - http://bit.ly/nY5D1B outrageous #deactOct 13 10:15
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msbMinceR: The fascists are certainly trying for that.  I speculate that they did 9/11 to justify increased repression because they realized that the Net was bringing people together and waking them up all over the planet.Oct 13 10:15
MinceRthey're looking for excuses all the timeOct 13 10:16
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MinceRand m$ is trying to lock down PCs again, this time they migh succeedOct 13 10:16
msbThe Net runs on Unix and C.  Dennis Ritchie and his colleagues made all this possible!Oct 13 10:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Dennis Ritchie, author of the C Programming Language and UNIX developer, died: ur1.ca/bcpc !linux !freesoftware !debianOct 13 10:16
MinceRs/gh/ght/Oct 13 10:16
MinceRthere's not a lot of resistance to eliminating freedom, as the post-9/11 hysteria showsOct 13 10:17
msbEvery effort to enforce some kind of DRM or treacherous computing has ultimately failed.Oct 13 10:17
MinceRthey've made some progress thoughOct 13 10:18
msbThe 9/11 research/truth message, via the Net, is gradually spreading.  When it reaches a critical mass of people, they will realize how they were manipulated, and they will fight for freedom.Oct 13 10:19
MinceRi doubt that people will ever realize what's happeningOct 13 10:19
msbThe Occupy Wall Street movement is attracting a lot of people.Oct 13 10:19
MinceRhungary quite happily plunged into a totalitarian fundamentalist dictatorshipOct 13 10:19
msbIt doesn't involve awareness of 9/11 yet, but organizations affiliated with it do.Oct 13 10:20
MinceRpeople in general don't even know what the WIPO Copyright Treaty or ACTA are, let alone know they harm their freedomOct 13 10:20
msbMinceR: What era are you talking about re Hungary?Oct 13 10:20
TechrightsBot-trIt doesn't involve awareness of 9/11 yet, but organizations affiliated with it do.Oct 13 10:20
TechrightsBot-trpeople in general don't even know what the WIPO Copyright Treaty or ACTA are, let alone know they harm their freedomOct 13 10:20
TechrightsBot-trMinceR: What era are you talking about re Hungary?Oct 13 10:20
MinceRcurrentOct 13 10:20
msbYipe!  I didn't know that.Oct 13 10:21
MinceRorban viktor managed to co-opt all branches of power recentlyOct 13 10:21
MinceRhe also managed to create a law that eliminates freedom of speechOct 13 10:21
MinceRhe also replaced the constitution with some sort of fundamentalist bullshitOct 13 10:22
MinceRfor a long time there was no protesting against thisOct 13 10:22
MinceRonly taking workers rights away resulted in a somewhat more serious protestOct 13 10:23
MinceRalmost nobody complained when they destroyed the remaining freedom of speechOct 13 10:23
MinceReven the EU only expressed their displeasure with the idea, but did nothing about itOct 13 10:23
msbThere is something that the rulers are using to put and keep most people asleep.Oct 13 10:27
msbThe components of this that I know of are the Jewish/"Christian"/Islamic religion (it is really a single religion) that features a murderous psychopath as the deity.Oct 13 10:28
msbAlso fluoridation of water.  The fluoride calcifies the pineal gland, which when healthy, probably promotes higher -- "psychedelic" -- consciousness -- greater access to memories, much more intense perception of the body and the world, etc.Oct 13 10:30
msbAlso advertising -- a flood of sincere-sounding emotional lies that people learn to filter out, which programs them to filter out real emotions from other people.Oct 13 10:31
msb... for which we can blame the most evil Edward Bernays.Oct 13 10:32
msbThe capitalist economic system also sets people at each other's throats.Oct 13 10:32
msbThere may be other malign influences, well, the controlled mainstream media for one.Oct 13 10:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] LibreOffice Community gathers in Paris for first conference. Great people, successful year. Exciting community and truly free software!Oct 13 10:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Thank You, Dennis Ritchie http://ur1.ca/5e858 #unixOct 13 10:33
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msbThe rulers -- the 1% of the population that owns 99% (more or less) of everything in the world -- relies on the synergistic effect of these influences to keep people asleep and accepting of what amounts to a type of slavery.Oct 13 10:36
msbBut the Internet -- parts of it -- are serving as the nervous system of Worldwide Humankind.  Oct 13 10:37
schestowitzThe the murderous psychopaths is all lovingOct 13 10:37
schestowitz*psychopathOct 13 10:37
msbschestowitz: Yeah.  That programs people not to think.Oct 13 10:37
schestowitzJust a  little moody :-)Oct 13 10:37
schestowitzAnd misunderstood, that's why he has so many PR agents here on the crust of EarthOct 13 10:38
msbThe ancient Sumerian writings, interpreted by Zechariah Sitchin, are really very interesting.  The say that a technologically advanced alien race came here and created us from apes, to act as their slave race.Oct 13 10:40
msbEn-lil was the vicious psychopathic leader, who became Jehovah in the Torah.  He demanded worship and liked roast meat (burnt offerings).Oct 13 10:41
msbEn-Ki was the engineer who made us, and he helped us against Oct 13 10:41
msb... En-Lil.  En-Ki may have been written as Lucifer -- the bringer of light -- in the JCI religion, and of course considered evil.Oct 13 10:42
msbHe gave us knowledge.Oct 13 10:43
msbNothing in that theory violates the laws of physics.  And people differ from chimps only in 1.5% of our DNA.  (IIRC)Oct 13 10:44
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84564756Oct 13 10:46
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 13-Oct-11 09:24:26 UTC - Identi.ca: #TechBytes Episode 64: From Russia to Bristol http://ur1.ca/5e836Oct 13 10:46
msbThe Sumerians carved pictures of reptilian creatures taller than humans, and also diagrams of the Solar System showing a tenth planet, the homeworld of these Anunnaki.Oct 13 10:46
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84564506Oct 13 10:46
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: TechBytes Episode 64: From Russia to Bristol | Techrights .::. Size~: 106.44 KBOct 13 10:46
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 13-Oct-11 09:12:58 UTC - Identi.ca: Every page in #techrights now bears a banner in memory of Dennis Ritchie http://ur1.ca/bcpcOct 13 10:46
msbThe word "ils" -- compare hebrew Oct 13 10:46
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Dennis Ritchie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 73.23 KBOct 13 10:47
msb... "el", meaning god, actually meant "tall guys".Oct 13 10:47
msb... in Sumerian.Oct 13 10:47
schestowitzFedora 16 beta http://www.itrunsonlinux.com/news/197-fedora-16-betaOct 13 10:47
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schestowitzhttp://ostatic.com/blog/another-linux-project-hacked?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ostatic+%28OStatic%29Oct 13 10:49
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msbThere are enough unexplainable artifacts -- the crystal skulls, the Piri Reis map, the Great Pyramids -- to tell us that we are missing knowledge of very important parts of our history.Oct 13 10:49
schestowitzOne among many that did NOT get crackedOct 13 10:49
schestowitzGreat Pyramids are well explainedOct 13 10:49
schestowitzand still studiedOct 13 10:49
schestowitzThen there's those fascinated with aliens and illuminati, who try to mysticise the pyramidsOct 13 10:50
schestowitzThey sell fiction as real stories, like ScientologyOct 13 10:51
msbHas anyone actually cut a block of stone to the same precision using the tools they postulate were used by the Egyptians.Oct 13 10:51
msb?Oct 13 10:51
schestowitzIf it's well cut, the explanation can be simpleOct 13 10:51
schestowitzI saw a film that explains where and how they make the stonesOct 13 10:51
schestowitzAnd the conditions were not all that awfulOct 13 10:51
schestowitzThe biblical accounts are lies someitmesOct 13 10:52
msbNothing I've said involves mysticism or "illuminati".Oct 13 10:52
schestowitzand the stones were carved near a river IIRCOct 13 10:52
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schestowitzsomeone who was in IRC before seemed to suggest alien intervention IIRCOct 13 10:52
schestowitzLike evoking "God" to explain something complexOct 13 10:53
msbAnd comparing what I've said with Scientology is a nasty and fraudulent smear.Oct 13 10:53
schestowitzThe metaphorical one is OKOct 13 10:53
schestowitzLike calling causality "God"Oct 13 10:53
schestowitzBut then it's not quite a deityOct 13 10:53
msbI've said nothing about "God" doing anything.Oct 13 10:53
schestowitzSome people call intelligence a soulOct 13 10:53
schestowitzmsb: not you..Oct 13 10:53
schestowitzMaybe ender, but I don't think so..Oct 13 10:54
schestowitzEnder will say anything that gets him some attention sometimesOct 13 10:54
schestowitzt line, hook & sinker in some truly bizarre stuffOct 13 10:54
msbThe theory of the Anunnaki _explains_ the origin of the mystical Jehovah character as a misperception of merely technologically advanced people who came from elsewhere and were of a different species than us.Oct 13 10:55
schestowitzHmmm.. my old images of Jobs won't be seen positively after his demise http://techrights.org/2011/08/25/duopoly-antitrust/Oct 13 10:56
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msbI'm afraid Ender -- Brandon -- has serious thinking disorders and emotional problems.  Oct 13 10:56
schestowitzHmmm.. just did a search on JobsOct 13 10:57
schestowitzTurns out all pages in TR are indexed (73,000 by Google's count), 122,00 pages in schestowitz.com are indexedOct 13 10:57
msbThat's a good thing!Oct 13 10:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @doozMen looking forward to meet you :)Oct 13 11:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @hconstandt: #iminds video Ingrid Lieten Flanders frees 65M€, also yearly recurrent, for ICT R&D. http://ur1.ca ...Oct 13 11:00
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iophkschestowitz: Forbes has two or three dozen articles on him in the last week.  NYT had a lot, too.  So did most papers.  I would bet there are tens of thousands of articles on him since he died.Oct 13 11:00
schestowitzhe was richOct 13 11:01
schestowitzIt's proportional to that :-)Oct 13 11:01
schestowitzwait till the gatesmania comesOct 13 11:01
schestowitzbuffett is likely to hit the bucket firstOct 13 11:02
iophkCan't come too soon for the economy or the industry. >:>Oct 13 11:02
schestowitzand from what I've heard, he did effective PR to hide his dark sideOct 13 11:02
schestowitziophk: naaa..Oct 13 11:02
iophkProbablyOct 13 11:02
schestowitzDon't worry, they'll make people whom he robbed cry over himOct 13 11:02
schestowitzPeople are told are to feel by the corporate pressOct 13 11:03
schestowitzsome imagesOct 13 11:03
schestowitzwith thin AfricansOct 13 11:03
schestowitzAnd hospitalsOct 13 11:03
schestowitzLeave it for PR agents to figure outOct 13 11:03
msband vaccines (which actually cause sterility)Oct 13 11:03
iophkHis lasting legacy is to have made bad engineering acceptable. Oct 13 11:03
schestowitz"In the fall of 1982, Pam Edstrom , a diminutive woman with piercing blue eyes, was recruited by Microsoft. [...] In modern-day business, flacks were responsible not only for avoiding bad press, but for spinning the good. [...] Hanson and Edstrom would spin a whole new image for Gates himself. They would tap the best and worst of Chairman Bill, changing his clothes, his voice, and his allegiances, driving him to become not just the Oct 13 11:04
iophkPerhaps including the "vaccines:Oct 13 11:04
schestowitzboss, but, essentially, the company mascot—a sort of high-technology Colonel Sanders."Oct 13 11:04
schestowitzFrom Pam's daughterOct 13 11:04
iophk"I have a problem with the fact that they just make really third-rate products.”Oct 13 11:04
iophkhttp://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2011/08/24/steve-jobss-best-quotes/Oct 13 11:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Steve Jobs’s Best Quotes - Digits - WSJ .::. Size~: 88.99 KBOct 13 11:04
msbBut at three times the price!Oct 13 11:04
schestowitzLinux is freeOct 13 11:04
schestowitzmsb: it's jobs saying this about gatesOct 13 11:05
iophkActually the price is 4 −5 times what they would be without monopoly rentsOct 13 11:05
msbI know people who are still fixated on Macs.Oct 13 11:05
schestowitz "I have a problem with the fact that Jobs just makes really third-grade products.”Oct 13 11:05
msbOK, infinity times the price!Oct 13 11:05
schestowitzone buttonOct 13 11:05
iophkOne button went out years  ago.Oct 13 11:05
schestowitzmsb: not infinityOct 13 11:05
schestowitzit still stays at 0Oct 13 11:06
msbBecause users should only want to do the one thing to any file that the company has decided.Oct 13 11:06
schestowitzthen you go into the infinity theoryOct 13 11:06
schestowitzwhich is more philosophical than mathematicalOct 13 11:06
msbAh yes, the Axiom of Choice.Oct 13 11:06
schestowitziophk: one desktop environment tooOct 13 11:06
schestowitzat MSFTOct 13 11:06
msbThis one couple barely knows where their next meal is coming from, but they want to spend thousands of dollars on a new Mac.Oct 13 11:08
iophkWhat to say about Ritchie?Oct 13 11:08
iophkHis work touches far more people than Jobs.Oct 13 11:08
schestowitzthey can then use a MacOct 13 11:08
schestowitzand look like JobsOct 13 11:08
msbTheir last new Mac doesn't even have a microphone jack.Oct 13 11:08
schestowitziophk: but not advertised muchOct 13 11:09
iophkmsb: the makes are competitvely priced, they're just too locked down under OS X.Oct 13 11:09
schestowitzBillG 'invented' the PCOct 13 11:09
schestowitzand BASIC :-)Oct 13 11:09
msbAnd the woman is computer-literate.  She edits audio files with Audacity.Oct 13 11:09
schestowitzKemmeny souts at his graveOct 13 11:09
iophkAre there any devices that *don't* rely on C (or a derivative like C++ or Objective-C) or Unix (or derivatives like iOS or Android) ?Oct 13 11:09
msbBurroughs made some computers that ran on Algol.Oct 13 11:10
schestowitzc++ -> javaOct 13 11:10
schestowitzthe dot notOct 13 11:10
schestowitzand pythonOct 13 11:10
schestowitzbut C was inspired by something tooOct 13 11:10
iophkBOct 13 11:10
iophkand BCPLOct 13 11:10
iophkIs Python written in C?Oct 13 11:11
msbThe Burroughs Algol computers had direct hardware support for the language, much like the Java Virtual Machine.Oct 13 11:13
msbI got a programming manual for the Burroughs B-6500 and spent many hours with it, until the pages got stuck together.Oct 13 11:15
msbJust kidding.Oct 13 11:15
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/604544Oct 13 11:15
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schestowitz"I'm so tired of all of the articles that paint Jobs as a god or saint and distort the words and philosophies of others. When RMS dies there won't be as much press coverage, because unfortunately success is too often defined by one's acquired wealth or celebrity, rather than on merit."Oct 13 11:15
MinceRthe first implementation of Python, CPython is written in COct 13 11:15
schestowitzexactlyOct 13 11:15
MinceRschestowitz: it's the cult of the almighty moneyOct 13 11:15
iophkhttp://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/20988/why-is-python-written-in-c-and-not-in-cOct 13 11:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why is Python written in C and not in C++? - Programmers - Stack Exchange .::. Size~: 64.22 KBOct 13 11:15
iophkYears ago I used SNOBOL4 which was written in C.Oct 13 11:17
iophkPerl is written in COct 13 11:19
iophkhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PerlOct 13 11:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Perl - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 209.53 KBOct 13 11:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Vista8 is a ripoff of Linux. Metro in Vista 8 is Microsoft copying the desktop environment approach from Linux. Repos too...Oct 13 11:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Thank You, Dennis Ritchie http://ur1.ca/5e858 #unixOct 13 11:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @rysiek Dennis Ritchie, author of the C Programming Language and UNIX developer, died: ur1.ca/bcpc !linux !freesoftware !debianOct 13 11:23
msbNice rant by Linus against C++ --  http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/57643/focus=57918Oct 13 11:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Thank You, Dennis Ritchie | Techrights .::. Size~: 82.3 KBOct 13 11:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The New York Times is no longer reliable. People should not link to it. It's just paywall here, paywall there. Not reliable.Oct 13 11:25
schestowitzhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle-east/irans-top-leader-says-wall-street-protests-will-topple-capitalism-in-america/2011/10/12/gIQAvUzleL_story.html?wprss=rss_economyOct 13 11:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Iran’s top leader says Wall Street protests will topple capitalism in America - The Washington Post .::. Size~: 103.94 KBOct 13 11:26
msbAlan Kay, creator of Smalltalk:  "I invented the term Object-Oriented, and I can tell you I did not have C++ in mind."Oct 13 11:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Man who exposes criminals treated like a criminal http://is.gd/xLpKP7 (Swiss bank confirms staff indicted in US tax case)Oct 13 11:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Oakland Tribune (AP) Online .::. Size~: 50.05 KBOct 13 11:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Assange is a villain (for exposing those in power), #Zuckerberg a hero (for giving people's data to those in power)Oct 13 11:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Police hunts down protesters against banking crimes, Wall Street bankers protected from them rather than arrested. Priceless!Oct 13 11:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Wall Street Protests Inspire Ire Over Bank Recruiting http://is.gd/eG8CYG are protesters villains? Dangerous like meltdown?Oct 13 11:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wall Street Protests Inspire Ire Over Bank Recruiting - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 62.34 KBOct 13 11:33
MinceRhe's pissed that Simula predates Smalltalk? :>Oct 13 11:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Wall Street protests draw overseas attention http://is.gd/backwD even Iran: http://is.gd/EyAY68 #us #wallstreetOct 13 11:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Oakland Tribune (AP) Online .::. Size~: 68.46 KBOct 13 11:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Iran’s top leader says Wall Street protests will topple capitalism in America - The Washington Post .::. Size~: 103.95 KBOct 13 11:35
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84565766Oct 13 11:35
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 13-Oct-11 10:26:58 UTC - Identi.ca: #EU speeds up capital rules for big banks  http://is.gd/U3ar6gOct 13 11:35
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Oakland Tribune (AP) Online .::. Size~: 69.42 KBOct 13 11:35
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84565787Oct 13 11:35
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 13-Oct-11 10:28:23 UTC - Identi.ca: Steve Jobs is a hero (he was rich!), Elmer is a villian (for exposing tax evaders)Oct 13 11:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Wall Street protests draw overseas attention http://is.gd/backwD even Iran: http://is.gd/EyAY68 #us #wallstreetOct 13 11:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Wall Street Protests Inspire Ire Over Bank Recruiting http://is.gd/eG8CYG are protesters villains? Dangerous like meltdown?Oct 13 11:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Oakland Tribune (AP) Online .::. Size~: 68.46 KBOct 13 11:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Iran’s top leader says Wall Street protests will topple capitalism in America - The Washington Post .::. Size~: 103.94 KBOct 13 11:36
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/124391186164232192?iid=am-70781558913185013966385223&nid=6+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Oct 13 11:38
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Dennis Ritchie was far more important than Steve Jobs http://t.co/ILtXBOiq achievements, not wealthOct 13 11:38
TechrightsBot-tr@: Oct 13 11:38
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/602888Oct 13 11:39
TechrightsBot-tr@: Oct 13 11:39
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/606777Oct 13 11:40
TechrightsBot-tr@: Oct 13 11:40
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/606284Oct 13 11:42
TechrightsBot-tr@: Oct 13 11:42
iophkschestowitz: perl, python and php are implemented in COct 13 11:42
iophkThe linux kernel is written in C, so are various BSD kernelsOct 13 11:42
iophkMost GNU and BSD utilities are written in COct 13 11:43
schestowitzwhat about old windows?Oct 13 11:44
schestowitzbasic with other stuff?Oct 13 11:44
schestowitzmeh http://jonathanischwartz.wordpress.com/2011/10/06/eitherwayyoureright/Oct 13 11:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Realigning the Stars | What I Couldn't Say… .::. Size~: 114.12 KBOct 13 11:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] “I’ll just sue you.”-- Steve Jobs http://ur1.ca/oy9iOct 13 11:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Good Artists Copy, Great Artists Steal | What I Couldn't Say… .::. Size~: 359.79 KBOct 13 11:48
iophkConcurrence...Oct 13 11:50
iophk… Bill's protection racket.Oct 13 11:51
schestowitzhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-15285843Oct 13 11:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Radiation hotspot in Tokyo after Fukushima accident .::. Size~: 82.24 KBOct 13 11:51
schestowitz!google extortionists with patentsOct 13 11:52
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Q: Licensing patents is unethical, you are extortionists…etc - Lodsys ... | http://www.lodsys.com/1/post/2011/05/q-licensing-patents-is-unethical-you-are-extortionistsetc.htmlOct 13 11:52
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Myhrvold's “Criminal Enterprise”, Detkin's Criticism of Extortionists ... | http://techrights.org/2011/08/08/swpats-extortionists-and-terrorists/Oct 13 11:52
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Bill Gates and Steve Jobs Extortionists With Software Patents ... | http://techrights.org/2010/03/10/bill-gates-racketeering-revealed/Oct 13 11:52
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - “Patent Trolls” and Libel | http://blog.mises.org/17968/future-patent-troll-coins-patent-troll-to-avoid-libel-ip/Oct 13 11:52
schestowitzMinceR: Oct 13 11:56
schestowitzmsb: Oct 13 11:56
schestowitz"Oct 13 11:56
schestowitzWelcome to Microsoft Corporation,Oct 13 11:56
schestowitza division of the New World Order!Oct 13 11:56
schestowitz"Oct 13 11:56
schestowitzI like itOct 13 11:56
schestowitzBut..Oct 13 11:57
schestowitzNWO is a loaded term Oct 13 11:57
schestowitzGordon Brown can say it, you can'tOct 13 11:58
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84565934Oct 13 11:58
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 13-Oct-11 10:39:09 UTC - Identi.ca: According to Wikipedia, Richie died aorund the same time as Jobs. Did they have to wait until #JobsHype ended for #MediaWhore ?Oct 13 11:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Google Engineer disses Google+ http://is.gd/xJFI7n shows freedom of thought in Google. He should be promoted.Oct 13 12:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google Engineer disses Google+ | ZDNet .::. Size~: 125.97 KBOct 13 12:01
iophkThe Apache web server was also written in C:Oct 13 12:03
iophkhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_serverOct 13 12:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apache HTTP Server - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 66.84 KBOct 13 12:03
iophkThat's nearly the entirety of the LAMP stack that is one degree of separation from Dennis RitchieOct 13 12:04
msbschestowitz: Lots of people talk about the NWO.  See (linked from my website):  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO24XmP1c5EOct 13 12:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Invisible Empire A New World Order Defined Full (Order it at Infowars.com)       - YouTube .::. Size~: 104.67 KBOct 13 12:04
schestowitzdiaspora's Fabian Dost - nice photos there...Oct 13 12:09
schestowitzmsb: I knowOct 13 12:09
schestowitzBut the word was daemonisedOct 13 12:09
schestowitzLike RothschildOct 13 12:09
schestowitzSaying this word is like saying "penis" in publicOct 13 12:10
msbC is unique:  Very powerful and versatile, comparatively few primitives, easily human readable, compiler and runtime system are comparatively easy to design, and compiled programs can run at nearly as fast as if written in assembly.Oct 13 12:10
msbThe movie shows various politicians talking overtly about the NWO.Oct 13 12:11
msbBut if anyone has demonized it, it's the mainstream media which are run by --- the NWO.Oct 13 12:12
iophkMost (all?) routers and switches are using systems based on C.Oct 13 12:12
iophkEven QNX, AFAIKOct 13 12:12
msbWhich doesn't want people talking about it, since that leads to investigation and exposure.Oct 13 12:12
schestowitzif they deprive people of certain language, then certain ideas can no longer be expressedOct 13 12:13
msbYes, write in a very simple yet powerful language, and let the compiler translate it into assembly language.Oct 13 12:13
schestowitzbut C is one thingOct 13 12:13
msbschestowitz: Exactly.  That was the principle behind Newspeak.Oct 13 12:14
schestowitzThe compiler does a lot of the heavy liftingOct 13 12:14
schestowitzGNU and GCC matter a lot tooOct 13 12:14
schestowitzC was inspired by other thingsOct 13 12:14
msbIt all works together!!!Oct 13 12:14
msbSynergy!Oct 13 12:14
schestowitzparsing the symtax well enough and making good error detection is no easy taskOct 13 12:14
schestowitzMichael Tiemann told me he wrote part of GCCOct 13 12:15
msbRight, but it's easier for C than for other languages.Oct 13 12:15
schestowitzit's safer to say "powerful families" nowOct 13 12:15
schestowitz[without naming them]Oct 13 12:15
schestowitzbut there is no unifying shortand languageOct 13 12:16
schestowitzNWO used to be one such termOct 13 12:16
msbThe god-damned Rothschilds!Oct 13 12:16
schestowitz"globalisation" works okOct 13 12:16
msbWait a second.  Somebody's knocking at my door.Oct 13 12:16
schestowitzEvelyn?Oct 13 12:16
msbNo!  Wait! Please! Aggghhh!  (thud)Oct 13 12:17
msb [Error] msb: No such nick/channel.Oct 13 12:18
schestowitz"Interesting read, although the article sure seemed to want to go out of its way to make Yegge look bad. It's important that these criticisms come to light, especially from the people that know its flaws best." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/610513Oct 13 12:20
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/609993Oct 13 12:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Time wasted with buggy software http://is.gd/c6xY2g #microsoft #failOct 13 12:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Time wasted with buggy software | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 50.96 KBOct 13 12:26
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84566551Oct 13 12:27
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 13-Oct-11 11:24:55 UTC - Identi.ca: Time wasted with buggy software http://is.gd/c6xY2g #microsoft #failOct 13 12:27
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Time wasted with buggy software | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 50.96 KBOct 13 12:28
iophkIf he was using MS Exchange then the down time is his own damn fault.Oct 13 12:28
schestowitzSamba now accepts corporate-copyrighted code http://lwn.net/Articles/462740/ not so new, not so badOct 13 12:28
iophkNo sympathy here.Oct 13 12:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Samba now accepts corporate-copyrighted code [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 13.37 KBOct 13 12:28
schestowitziophk: maybe imposed by the employerOct 13 12:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] RIP Dennis MacAlistair Ritchie → http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Ritchie #c #unix #dmrOct 13 12:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dennis Ritchie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 73.72 KBOct 13 12:28
schestowitzCadillacs With Linux http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Cadillac-CUE/?kc=rssOct 13 12:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux-based CUE system to debut on 2012 Cadillacs - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 62.46 KBOct 13 12:30
iophkschestowitz: still no sympathy.  The employer should know better.Oct 13 12:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cadillacs With #Linux http://ur1.ca/5e9c9Oct 13 12:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Samba now accepts corporate-copyrighted code http://ur1.ca/5dwz4 not so new, not so badOct 13 12:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux-based CUE system to debut on 2012 Cadillacs - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 62.48 KBOct 13 12:32
iophkDozens of small edits to DMR's Wikipedia entry.Oct 13 12:32
iophkThe man was a real giant.Oct 13 12:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Samba now accepts corporate-copyrighted code [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 13.4 KBOct 13 12:32
schestowitz"Schwartzileaks. :)" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/610466Oct 13 12:34
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schestowitziophk: born 14 years before the charlatanOct 13 12:35
schestowitzboth of them :-)Oct 13 12:35
schestowitz"pirates of silicon valley"Oct 13 12:35
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/609511 "Here's still hoping the Ubuntu folks will learn how to re-dent without abusing group tags some day. :) "Oct 13 12:36
TechrightsBot-tr@: Oct 13 12:36
iophkWhich charlatan? There are many to choose from these days.Oct 13 12:36
schestowitzjono: new ubuntu review https://joindiaspora.com/posts/610664Oct 13 12:36
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schestowitziophk: the biollionaire ones from ITOct 13 12:36
schestowitzalthough I think Ellison is now verging retirement ageOct 13 12:37
iophkOne cannot become rich form own effort, too badOct 13 12:37
schestowitzJobs did for computing what Pat Robertson did for community harmonyOct 13 12:37
schestowitziophk: externalitiesOct 13 12:38
schestowitz!google jobs china factoriesOct 13 12:38
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Apple boss Steve Jobs defends China Foxconn factory conditions ... | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1283389/Apple-boss-Steve-Jobs-defends-China-Foxconn-factory-conditions-10-suicides.htmlOct 13 12:38
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Chinese Factory Workers Write to Steve Jobs | http://www.tomshardware.com/news/hexyl-hydride-n-hexane-poison-factory,12256.htmlOct 13 12:38
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - China's workforce shunning poorly paid factory jobs - World - www ... | http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/08/25/1093246623753.htmlOct 13 12:38
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - BBC NEWS | Asia-Pacific | Fewer jobs in China's factory towns | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7899099.stmOct 13 12:38
iophkHe was good at hype, thougheOct 13 12:38
iophkChina's factories are a problem for more than just Apple.Oct 13 12:39
iophkNokia was in deep trouble there too.Oct 13 12:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Lord Vetinari's Clock: ur1.ca/5e9f3 I want one!Oct 13 12:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Apple boss Steve Jobs defends China Foxconn factory conditions http://is.gd/zYpCwQ at least he was consistentOct 13 12:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] No.Oct 13 12:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple boss Steve Jobs defends China Foxconn factory conditions after 10 suicides  | Mail Online .::. Size~: 79.24 KBOct 13 12:40
iophkwww.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1004217/nokia-factories-in-china-come-under-microscopeOct 13 12:40
schestowitziophk: we covered nokia in last night's showOct 13 12:41
schestowitzit's coming back to LinuxOct 13 12:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How many people did Richie have to stomp on to get rich? None. He didn't need to become rich, he actually *produced* stuff.Oct 13 12:41
schestowitzhttp://bytesmedia.co.uk/2011/10/13/techbytes-episode-64-when-microsoft-takes-on-the-government/Oct 13 12:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bytes Media - TechBytes Episode 64: When Microsoft Takes on the Government .::. Size~: 43.13 KBOct 13 12:42
msbschestowitz: Why not wait a week or two to expose all these evils of Jobs?  The hysteria will have died down and the info will be more readily accepted, and there will be less of a backlash  against Techrights, so less loss of audience and more propagation of all Techrights info.Oct 13 12:44
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msbBTW, I have Risen!  I am BORN AGAIN!!!Oct 13 12:45
Kryczekyou installed bash?Oct 13 12:45
msbBourne Again SHell -- what a great name!Oct 13 12:46
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schestowitzmsb: it has been over a weekOct 13 12:58
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schestowitzdo I need to wait longer?Oct 13 12:58
schestowitzI didn't write abut it until 2 days laterOct 13 12:59
schestowitzRMS was accused of responding too fastOct 13 12:59
iophkwait a day or twoOct 13 12:59
iophkMaybe write a longer post about RitchieOct 13 12:59
schestowitziophk: watch the author of http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2011/10/microsoft-and-hadoop/ Oct 13 13:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Embraces Elephant of Open Source | Wired Enterprise | Wired.com .::. Size~: 50.67 KBOct 13 13:00
schestowitzCade Metz Oct 13 13:00
schestowitzFrom The RegisterOct 13 13:00
schestowitzDoes he write for both or has he defected like Microsoft Emil from Arse Technicaca?Oct 13 13:01
iophkMaybe defected.Oct 13 13:01
schestowitzquite a few MS boosters had a career changeOct 13 13:01
schestowitzI was gonna ask yesterdayOct 13 13:01
schestowitzWhat's Mary Jo Foley up to?Oct 13 13:01
schestowitzhaven't heard from her in a month or soOct 13 13:02
schestowitzIf she writes, then it must be fluff or just too littleOct 13 13:02
schestowitzHm... she still does PR http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoftOct 13 13:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: All About Microsoft | ZDNet .::. Size~: 87.09 KBOct 13 13:02
iophkHer fan site (http://www.microsoft-watch.com/)  hasn't been updated since SeptOct 13 13:03
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 404 Not foundOct 13 13:03
schestowitzhttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/dell-no-comment-on-its-future-windows-phone-plans/10936Oct 13 13:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dell: No comment on its future Windows Phone plans | ZDNet .::. Size~: 123.33 KBOct 13 13:03
schestowitzhttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/microsofts-skype-purchase-gets-the-ec-green-light-now-what/10929Oct 13 13:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft's Skype purchase gets the EC green light. Now what? | ZDNet .::. Size~: 153.59 KBOct 13 13:03
schestowitzfeadting on rivalsOct 13 13:04
schestowitzhttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/which-parts-of-yahoo-if-any-would-make-sense-for-microsoft-to-buy/10914Oct 13 13:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Which parts of Yahoo (if any) would make sense for Microsoft to buy? | ZDNet .::. Size~: 125.71 KBOct 13 13:04
schestowitz*feasting/feedingOct 13 13:04
schestowitzbut anyway, she still writes, just a case of not many people linking to her PR blogOct 13 13:04
iophkMS already controls Yahoo, buying it would be a liabilityOct 13 13:04
iophkYahoo already funnels traffic to Bing.Oct 13 13:05
schestowitzCTO of Yahoo is an MS execOct 13 13:05
iophkand some of the board are from MS too.Oct 13 13:05
schestowitzMicrosoft just needs to make sure the ggroom to marry the rest of Yahoo is adequateOct 13 13:05
iophkFoley moved to ZDNet:Oct 13 13:05
iophkhttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/greetings-microsoft-watchers/6Oct 13 13:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Greetings, Microsoft Watchers! | ZDNet .::. Size~: 95.02 KBOct 13 13:05
schestowitzmaybe vmwareOct 13 13:06
schestowitzthough it would make no senseOct 13 13:06
schestowitzvmb_ware almost bought NovellOct 13 13:06
schestowitzEventually Microsoft found a groom in seattleOct 13 13:06
schestowitzAnd attached a matre to NovellOct 13 13:06
schestowitzI watched Hawn's kenote yesterdayOct 13 13:06
schestowitzHe's like a rancher on stageOct 13 13:07
schestowitzmentioned USSEOct 13 13:07
schestowitzSUSEOct 13 13:07
schestowitzNot a word about OpenSUSEOct 13 13:07
schestowitzOr about the communityOct 13 13:07
iophkThe community mostly leftOct 13 13:07
schestowitzPoor Jos is shilling for them for a paycheck nowOct 13 13:07
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxuser.co.uk/opinion/whats-next-for-meego-join-opensuse-says-jos-poortvliet/Oct 13 13:08
schestowitzhttp://news.opensuse.org/2011/10/11/opensuse-announces-first-public-release-of-openqa/Oct 13 13:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What’s next for MeeGo? “Join openSUSE”, says Jos Poortvliet | Linux User .::. Size~: 48.91 KBOct 13 13:08
TechrightsBot-trhttp://news.opensuse.org/2011/10/11/opensuse-announces-first-public-release-of-openqa/Oct 13 13:08
schestowitzCome help the Vole tax LinuxOct 13 13:08
schestowitzhttp://www.marketwatch.com/story/xcommerce-signs-with-acquia-to-migrate-ebay-and-paypal-developer-content-to-drupal-2011-10-12?reflink=MW_news_stmpOct 13 13:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: X.commerce Signs With Acquia to Migrate eBay and PayPal Developer Content to Drupal - MarketWatch .::. Size~: 79.94 KBOct 13 13:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Good lively discussion on !techbytes 64. As a btw the music chosen is consistently good quality and does not sound as if it was thrown in.Oct 13 13:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] KDE 15 anos - KDE Brasil http://ur1.ca/5dd6vOct 13 13:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: KDE 15 anos - KDE Brasil .::. Size~: 11.74 KBOct 13 13:15
MinceR'Mourn for his passing, but celebrate his life. He didn't just change the world, he make world.'Oct 13 13:17
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/606108Oct 13 13:18
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schestowitzMinceR: "hello world"Oct 13 13:18
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/605955Oct 13 13:19
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/605261Oct 13 13:20
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TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 13-Oct-11 12:17:05 UTC - Identi.ca: "passwords stolen" says a headline from #ZDnet but passwords cannot be stolen, they can be copied and/or changedOct 13 13:22
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84567321Oct 13 13:22
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 13-Oct-11 12:21:52 UTC - Identi.ca: Russian Government Will Migrate To Linux By 2015 http://ur1.ca/5dzel Linux migrates YOU!Oct 13 13:22
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84566980Oct 13 13:22
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Russian Government Will Migrate To Linux By 2015 | Muktware .::. Size~: 34.11 KBOct 13 13:23
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 13-Oct-11 11:58:26 UTC - Identi.ca: "Open Source Is Powering Pretty Much Everything" http://ur1.ca/5e9me indeedOct 13 13:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] #RomanticalyApocalyptic in New York. Not that I'll be there, but the graphic is great: ur1.ca/5e9s9Oct 13 13:23
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: "Open Source Powering Pretty Much Everything" .::. Size~: 158.67 KBOct 13 13:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Planned obsolescence sux indeed: ur1.ca/5e9vx #crapple /and I still have my multi-touch on my !kde :)Oct 13 13:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] MT @renacuaja: Here's information on DigiTask, Skype and SSL Interception letters http://t.co/xOq8KClX #R2D2 #0zapftisOct 13 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Internet Explorer is the safest Web browser!? Ha! http://is.gd/KcEh2y "Microsoft is trying again to con people"Oct 13 13:26
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Internet Explorer is the safest Web browser!? Ha! | ZDNet .::. Size~: 148.18 KBOct 13 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Bernanke's #QE3 ATM ;) http://goo.gl/SqtSCOct 13 13:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Linux Is A Disruptive Force" http://ur1.ca/5e9xr #linuxOct 13 13:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Photos - Google+ .::. Size~: 39.54 KBOct 13 13:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: "Linux Is A Disruptive Force" .::. Size~: 160.47 KBOct 13 13:28
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84566596Oct 13 13:29
TechrightsBot-tr@Jose R Rodriguez (metztli)'s status on Thursday, 13-Oct-11 11:27:15 UTC - Identi.ca: “…Jonathan, the guy who successfully got Steve Jobs to shut up and back up" http://ur1.ca/oy9i (or http://ub0.cc/YH/gW ) {♺ @schestowitz}Oct 13 13:29
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84567331Oct 13 13:29
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Good Artists Copy, Great Artists Steal | What I Couldn't Say… .::. Size~: 359.74 KBOct 13 13:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Dennis Richie, one half of K&R and an amazing hacker, has died http://identi.ca/url/54083969Oct 13 13:30
TechrightsBot-tr@Kevin Granade (kevingranade)'s status on Thursday, 13-Oct-11 12:22:33 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz that policy always struck me as a bit paranoid, but I can't fault them for it.Oct 13 13:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Rob Pike - Google+ - I just heard that, after a long illness, Dennis Ritchie… .::. Size~: 996.27 KBOct 13 13:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Mozilla publica relatório anual sobre 2010 e detalha receita de US$ 123.000.000 http://goo.gl/w3YMn http://goo.gl/k2CZCOct 13 13:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mozilla publica relatório anual sobre 2010 e detalha receita de US$ 123.000.000 .::. Size~: 57.52 KBOct 13 13:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: State of Mozilla and 2010 Financial Statements | Mitchell's Blog .::. Size~: 25.67 KBOct 13 13:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Chicago to Wall Street: Pay US Back! http://is.gd/hTeWfI same things bankers say before sorrowful foreclosure.Oct 13 13:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Chicago to Wall Street: Pay US Back! | Center for Media and Democracy .::. Size~: 51.45 KBOct 13 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Bob Lazar Worked On Alien Spaceship Reverse Engineering: Lockheed Martin's Senior Scientist #xfiles http://goo.gl/tg9GQOct 13 13:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Obrona Krzyża - teraz w Sejmie! :) ur1.ca/5ea25 !polskaOct 13 13:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bob Lazar Worked On Alien Spaceship Reverse Engineering: Lockheed Martin's Senior Scientist ~ Latest UFO News| UFO 2011 Sightings|Alien Pictures|2012 Solar Flares|UFO News|Web Bot|UFO .::. Size~: 92.49 KBOct 13 13:40
schestowitzhttp://is.gd/VWrqMI  Oct 13 13:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WineHQ access credentials harvested - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 39.07 KBOct 13 13:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The H (Heise) could teach #zdnet how to write accurate headlinesOct 13 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google Fine With Steve's Rant, Apple Fired Engineer For Showing iPad To Steve! http://is.gd/A1yt3n #apple #sociopathOct 13 13:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google Fine With Steve's Rant, Apple Fired Engineer For Showing iPad To Steve! | Muktware .::. Size~: 60.22 KBOct 13 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Extraterrestrial UFO Are Real : Ben Rich Lockheed Skunk Works Director Admitted In His Deathbed Confession ~ #xfiles http://goo.gl/xlvlOct 13 13:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Extraterrestrial UFO Are Real : Ben Rich Lockheed Skunk Works Director Admitted In His Deathbed Confession ~ Latest UFO News| UFO 2011 Sightings|Alien Pictures|2012 Solar Flares|UFO News|Web Bot|UFO .::. Size~: 266.23 KBOct 13 13:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Xoom 2 and Other Linux Devices Leaked to the Public http://is.gd/kDlzj5 #linuxOct 13 13:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Motorola Spyder and Xoom 2 turn up in more leaked shots -- Engadget .::. Size~: 63.51 KBOct 13 13:56
schestowitzhttp://www.androidguys.com/2011/10/12/big-coming-october-19/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+androidguyscom+%28AndroidGuys%29Oct 13 14:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: “Something BIG” may be Coming October 19 › AndroidGuys .::. Size~: 32.18 KBOct 13 14:00
schestowitzsounds like a trailer for a pr0n productionOct 13 14:00
MinceRindeedOct 13 14:00
schestowitzphones need to be smallOct 13 14:00
schestowitzand powerfulOct 13 14:00
schestowitznot bigOct 13 14:00
sebsebsebHi MinceROct 13 14:01
MinceRhayOct 13 14:01
MinceRschestowitz: they need to be just the right size :>Oct 13 14:01
*sebsebseb waits for loads of people to be disapointed with Ubuntu 11.10, since Gnome 2 went bye byeOct 13 14:01
sebsebseb,but it's not out just yetOct 13 14:01
schestowitzMinceR: with zoomingOct 13 14:03
schestowitzand high resolution, maybe voice-enabled interfacesOct 13 14:04
MinceRi prefer keyboards and touchscreensOct 13 14:04
schestowitzDuke Nukem 3D Coming to Android “Very Soon”Oct 13 14:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Duke Nukem For Ever? No, Duke Nukem For Android. http://is.gd/bhAWT2 #linuxOct 13 14:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Duke Nukem 3D Coming to Android “Very Soon” › AndroidGuys .::. Size~: 33.14 KBOct 13 14:08
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84567969 Oct 13 14:09
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 13-Oct-11 13:02:58 UTC - Identi.ca: #Motorola (re)invents #Palm #Foleo http://is.gd/kdSlOv #linux #google #inspirationOct 13 14:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Today detained: Manning-506 days no trial; Assange-320 days no charge; WikiLeaks-324 days US banking blockade http://t.co/t1FujWmEOct 13 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] RIP Dennis RitchieOct 13 14:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Caring about caring: w Brigid Barron & Mary McMahon of @caringforcarers & @marianharkin http://p.ost.im/p/e6wA3JOct 13 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: How will digital revolution affect books in the 21st century? My speech at Frankfurt boo http://p.ost.im/p/eMhKFFOct 13 14:13
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schestowitz"Thanks for sharing, I will add Hugo!" http://joindiaspora.com/posts/610875Oct 13 14:15
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schestowitzHugo is awesomeOct 13 14:15
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84568000Oct 13 14:16
TechrightsBot-tr@Mikael (inscius)'s status on Thursday, 13-Oct-11 13:04:33 UTC - Identi.ca: A historical irony: Mac System sound "Sosumi" http://ur1.ca/5eae4Oct 13 14:16
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84568166Oct 13 14:17
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 13-Oct-11 13:14:20 UTC - Identi.ca: Apple and Loyalty Vs. Android/Linux Loyalty http://is.gd/232Z9a #apple #ios #android #googleOct 13 14:17
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Mobile marketers take note: New data reveals on average, Android app users are 2x more loyal than iOS app users | Fiksu .::. Size~: 26.78 KBOct 13 14:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Apple and Loyalty Vs. Android/Linux Loyalty http://is.gd/232Z9a #apple #ios #android #googleOct 13 14:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Quad-core #Linux Tablets from #ASUS http://is.gd/kJUjCKOct 13 14:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mobile marketers take note: New data reveals on average, Android app users are 2x more loyal than iOS app users | Fiksu .::. Size~: 26.78 KBOct 13 14:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Quad-core Asus Eee Pad Transformer 2 tablet may be set for November 7th launch .::. Size~: 86.09 KBOct 13 14:20
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wood5y/status/124428598236033024Oct 13 14:23
TechrightsBot-tr@wood5y: @schestowitz when has Microsoft *ever* done anything original? It's either bought other companies' stuff or plagiarised it mercilessly.Oct 13 14:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @OldManKris Everybody hearing about Dennis Ritchie's death received the message by way of something UNIX-based or written in C.Oct 13 14:24
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/UberGnu3/status/124434232004186112Oct 13 14:24
TechrightsBot-tr@UberGnu3: "I’m sorry that Mr. Stallman can be a jerk – but I’m glad he’s on our side." http://t.co/stvb0nVV via @schestowitz @cil20Oct 13 14:24
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/84568342Oct 13 14:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wood5y when has Microsoft *ever* done anything original? It's either bought other companies' stuff or plagiarised it mercilessly.Oct 13 14:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Curious how a 40 year old programming language, C, is now set to become the world's most popular, again (Tiobe): http://bit.ly/nnCBQSOct 13 14:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TIOBE Software: The Coding Standards Company .::. Size~: 3.31 KBOct 13 14:25
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wakizaki/status/124438075337228288Oct 13 14:26
TechrightsBot-tr@wakizaki: I remember this blog post by Jonathan Schwartz RT @schestowitz: “I’ll just sue you.”-- Steve Jobs http://t.co/7mHl7S3UOct 13 14:26
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/madcap_loon/status/124443452783067136Oct 13 14:26
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TechrightsBot-tr@madcap_loon: @schestowitz did I miss something? What have they published lately?Oct 13 14:26
schestowitzpages asking for personal details and/or moneyOct 13 14:26
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/84568184Oct 13 14:29
TechrightsBot-tr@Jose R Rodriguez (metztli)'s status on Thursday, 13-Oct-11 13:15:24 UTC - Identi.ca: Mishi Choudhary, exec.dir.of Intl Practice at Software #Freedom Law Center ( #SFLC) NY:" !Linux Is A Disruptive Force" http://ur1.ca/5e9xrOct 13 14:29
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/rcweir/statuses/124127458994819072Oct 13 14:32
TechrightsBot-tr@rcweir: Note in inbox today. User had moved from OpenOffice to LibreOffice. Now looking for instructions on how to move back. LO too buggy.Oct 13 14:32
schestowitzLike I said last night...Oct 13 14:32
schestowitzIBM never likes LOOct 13 14:32
schestowitzIt wants to harvest code for LotusOct 13 14:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Also, as a jr programmer, I appreciated how the Ritchie book (http://amzn.to/ouiV9S) elegantly explained the many subtle nuances of C..Oct 13 14:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Amazon.com: C Programming Language (2nd Edition) (0076092003106): Brian W. Kernighan, Dennis M. Ritchie: Books .::. Size~: 409.1 KBOct 13 14:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] C is for Cookie (Sesame Street): http://ur1.ca/0lkfmOct 13 14:35
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sesame Street: Cookie Monster Sings C is for Cookie       - YouTube .::. Size~: 93.04 KBOct 13 14:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Do Volunteer Programmers Produce Better Code? http://ur1.ca/5eau6Oct 13 14:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux News: Community: Do Volunteer Programmers Produce Better Code? .::. Size~: 59 KBOct 13 14:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Sabayon 7 Brings #Linux Heaven http://ur1.ca/5eautOct 13 14:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Wyden to President: Isn’t Congress Supposed to Approve International Trade Agreements? http://is.gd/6QJXtxOct 13 14:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sabayon 7 Brings Linux Heaven .::. Size~: 38.84 KBOct 13 14:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wyden to President: Isn’t Congress Supposed to Approve International Trade Agreements? | Newsroom | Senator Ron Wyden | Standing Up for All of Oregon .::. Size~: 14.76 KBOct 13 14:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Microsoft Embraces Elephant of Open Source http://ur1.ca/5eavz #opensourceOct 13 14:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Embraces Elephant of Open Source | Wired Enterprise | Wired.com .::. Size~: 51.01 KBOct 13 14:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The media blackout of high polling Texas presidential candidate Ron Paul | East Texas Review http://t.co/j3sH44PeOct 13 14:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) Released! (Ubuntu Release blog): http://t.co/DmLzDp8rOct 13 14:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Live: Hindu editor N Ram at World Editor's Forum discussing WikiLeaks http://t.co/gsPyUuO0Oct 13 14:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Ubuntu 11.10 is here! #floss #gnulinux http://www.ubuntu.com/Oct 13 14:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] If you haven't already, please change your password and SSH public key at http://ur1.ca/00k5b !fedora I just did...Oct 13 15:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] RT @apachelogger #Kubuntu 11.10 is here!!!!!! http://ur1.ca/5eazyOct 13 15:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Welcome to FAS2 .::. Size~: 6 KBOct 13 15:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Welcome to "the Post-GWAS era!" http://bit.ly/n3UjsTOct 13 15:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] A Slovak Twist: Slovakia's Sulik Announces EFSF Vote Has To Be Adopted By Constitutional Court First | 0Hedge #collapse http://goo.gl/vdmedOct 13 15:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A Slovak Twist: Slovakia's Sulik Announces EFSF Vote Has To Be Adopted By Constitutional Court First | ZeroHedge .::. Size~: 85.02 KBOct 13 15:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] ♺ @rajitsingh: Father of C and UNIX, Dennis Ritchie, passes away at age 70. My deepest sypathies to his family and friends. #Linux #GNU #FSFOct 13 15:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 13/10/2011: Sabayon 7, Enron Whistleblower Defends WikiLeaks http://is.gd/oLzfi7 #techrightsOct 13 15:19
schestowitzISPs "exaggerate the cost of data" http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/broadband/370393/isps-exaggerate-the-cost-of-data #uk #internetOct 13 15:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) released http://ur1.ca/5ebelOct 13 15:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Dennis Ritchie has died http://tcrn.ch/ouYOrZ !Unix forever baby!Oct 13 15:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !tzag and Good morning, !IdentiverseOct 13 15:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) released [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 8.09 KBOct 13 15:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Father Of C And UNIX, Dennis Ritchie, Passes Away At Age 70 | TechCrunch .::. Size~: 54.46 KBOct 13 15:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] It's not that bad, I don't think, once you get it installed.Oct 13 15:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Identica appears to be repaired today, but the !GNU groupb seems to have been invaded by spammers and i don't know what to do about that.Oct 13 15:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] http://ur1.ca/5ebha some new lyrics and bits up this morning. #BYSA @creativecommonsOct 13 15:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @ansol: New blog post: Morreu Dennis Ritchie, um dos criadores da linguagem C e do sistema operativo UNIX http://ur1.ca/5eb4mOct 13 15:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Software Livre no SAPO  » Blog Archive   » Morreu Dennis Ritchie, um dos criadores da linguagem C e do sistema operativo UNIX .::. Size~: 44.36 KBOct 13 15:31
MinceRhttp://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/297431_2237956431823_1335371370_32412809_450679083_n.jpgOct 13 15:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I just made you a moderator on Identi.ca. On people's profile pages, you can use the "Moderate" button to sandbox, silence, or delete them.Oct 13 15:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Real News from Washington http://ur1.ca/5ebirOct 13 15:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Occupy DC Targets Wars and Economy       - YouTube .::. Size~: 93.86 KBOct 13 15:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I accidentally started up an old bad Web server; I think it was causing issues.Oct 13 15:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] attention !spamreport I think these are Group Spammers ⇒johniefelder391 UID 488660 ⇒alvarolyle759 UID 488657 ⇒cythiadehart772 UID 488476Oct 13 15:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @zotz http://ur1.ca/5ebha some new lyrics and bits up this morning. #BYSA @creativecommonsOct 13 15:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] They're more visible. We disabled the code that hid users without avatars from public places, in order to make it easier to silence them.Oct 13 15:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] You're a moderator. You can go to her profile page and silence her (Moderate button). Please do it!Oct 13 15:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz Real News from Washington http://ur1.ca/5ebirOct 13 15:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Ubuntu 11.10 has been released http://ur1.ca/5eblaOct 13 15:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @evan methinks that one needs immediate disassembly; I'd recommend a hatchet ;)Oct 13 15:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I'll take a look.Oct 13 15:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @evan I am only a member of the !GNU group; I can flag/block them for me, but no one else. Is that what you mean?Oct 13 15:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I agree.Oct 13 15:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I shut it down completely yesterday.Oct 13 15:47
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzSjK0KFesI&feature=digest_refresh_satOct 13 15:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Multiverse Doppelgangers: Do Many Versions of You Exist?       - YouTube .::. Size~: 103.11 KBOct 13 15:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] No. Go to their profile pages; click "Moderate" button next to their avatar. Choose "Silence".Oct 13 15:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @evan okay, cool.... um, there seems to be a delete button, tooOct 13 15:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Merrie Melodies - Daffy Duck the Wizard http://identi.ca/url/54091176Oct 13 16:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I got all three only because i am in the group; the group name was in the > address lineOct 13 16:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Merrie Melodies - Daffy Duck the Wizard HD       - YouTube .::. Size~: 74.96 KBOct 13 16:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] We'll have some news on that soon. If you're in a hurry, http://status.net/downloadOct 13 16:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] No. Just use silence.Oct 13 16:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Download StatusNet | StatusNet .::. Size~: 11 KBOct 13 16:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I think that account is for very specific service announcements.Oct 13 16:05
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1Sk9BAYLME&feature=digest_refresh_satOct 13 16:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: "Do You Want to Live to Be 1000?" and Why That's a Stupid Question       - YouTube .::. Size~: 108.57 KBOct 13 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Just wondering how heterosexuals feel if we homosexuals treated them the same way they treat us #LGBT #homophobiaOct 13 16:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] "Class warfare is going on, and my class is winning. I mean we're killing them" http://identi.ca/url/54091267Oct 13 16:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Howard Buffett Defends Occupy Wall Street Protests to ‘Make Things Happen’ - Bloomberg .::. Size~: 127.08 KBOct 13 16:10
*DaemonFC (~ryan@ppp-69-215-9-240.dsl.sbndin.ameritech.net) has joined #techrightsOct 13 16:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Ritchie: "UNIX is very simple, it just needs a genius to understand its simplicity" (Network World): http://bit.ly/qxrqb0Oct 13 16:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @evan *gulp* Is there a moderator guide someplace? I just deleted one for-sure spammer, then noticed yr advice to only silenceOct 13 16:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dennis Ritchie, Father of Unix and C programming language, dead at 70 .::. Size~: 123.51 KBOct 13 16:12
DaemonFCVega backend OpenGLOct 13 16:12
DaemonFC:)Oct 13 16:12
DaemonFCOpera supports the open source radeon driver + mesaOct 13 16:12
DaemonFCit even uses OpenGL to render its own interfaceOct 13 16:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @evan also, what is "sandbox" ... is it a time out that maybe blocks links or something?Oct 13 16:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Covering it in my upcoming song collection "ÜBERG33K" dedicated to the memory of Alan Turing. An eye for an eye :-pOct 13 16:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] RT @ trmanco: Corporate depression #nikon #photography #flickr #bw http://t.co/NmyQLRwnOct 13 16:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] trmanco: Knowledge is power #photography #flickr #nikon http://t.co/jg46oPPgOct 13 16:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Why not?Oct 13 16:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] "Sandbox" hides users from public timeline but still allows them to post. Good for automated bots that aren't spammers.Oct 13 16:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @evan maybe later after i figure out what's going on :)Oct 13 16:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] Can you tell us how you did it? I'd love to try.Oct 13 16:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] no, the hardest part is getting people to follow your new instance once you actually have it working D:Oct 13 16:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Maybe we have a different idea of "moderate". If you silence them, that's enough for me.Oct 13 16:22
iophkhttp://techcrunch.com/2011/10/13/father-of-c-and-unix-dennis-ritchie-passes-away-at-age-70/Oct 13 16:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Father Of C And UNIX, Dennis Ritchie, Passes Away At Age 70 | TechCrunch .::. Size~: 54.15 KBOct 13 16:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] As Uncle Ben said to Peter Parker: "With great power comes great responsibility..." and so it is time for me to duck out for now ;)Oct 13 16:24
DaemonFChttp://www.kubuntu.org/news/11.10-releaseOct 13 16:24
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iophkhttp://xubuntu.org/news/11.10-releaseOct 13 16:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Dennis Ritchie, Creator of C Programming Language, Passed Away - Slashdot #sadnews http://goo.gl/veu6pOct 13 16:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dennis Ritchie, Creator of C Programming Language, Passed Away - Slashdot .::. Size~: 146.05 KBOct 13 16:25
iophk"Significant reductions in memory usage (up to 32%) and the subsequent savings in KDE's loading time (up to 33%) can be had simply by installing the package apt:/kubuntu-low-fat-settings!"Oct 13 16:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Spendings IMG] http://ur1.ca/5dbb6Oct 13 16:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Steve Jobs is human after all, who knew http://identi.ca/url/54086307Oct 13 16:27
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: plucky tree: the last time I saw Steve Jobs .::. Size~: 108.54 KBOct 13 16:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] You too!Oct 13 16:29
DaemonFCyes, most of that is killing off the bluetooth daemon and nepomuk's indexing service and whatnotOct 13 16:30
DaemonFCstuff that most people won't find incredibly useful anywayOct 13 16:30
DaemonFCand is too heavy for lesser systemsOct 13 16:30
iophkIt's good to see that /. picked up on Dennis Ritchie's death, albeit quite late.Oct 13 16:31
DaemonFCobviously it's just a different set of default settings, so if it does turn off something you need, you can always go back in and turn that on yourself laterOct 13 16:31
iophkIt's some coverage at least.Oct 13 16:31
DaemonFCI should run Opera 12 alpha through PeacekeeperOct 13 16:32
DaemonFCit was already killing Firefox before the hardware acceleration landedOct 13 16:32
MinceRand they left GNU/Linux out of their listing of UnixesOct 13 16:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Apple comntinue to innovate even after Jobs' departureOct 13 16:32
MinceRagain proving that /. is nothing more than a m$/crApple fanboy/shill circlejerk siteOct 13 16:32
DaemonFCwell, the GNU people keep insisting that this "GNU Linux" thing isn't UNIXOct 13 16:32
DaemonFCso what should they expect?Oct 13 16:32
MinceRit's more Unix than OSuX, which they did listOct 13 16:32
DaemonFCthe Linux rebranding committee insists it isn't UNIXOct 13 16:33
DaemonFCso why should they be mentioned?Oct 13 16:33
MinceRwhy was Android mentioned, then?Oct 13 16:33
DaemonFCgood questionOct 13 16:33
DaemonFCthat's hardly a UNIXOct 13 16:33
MinceRa"For those of us running Mac OS X, iOS, Android and many other non-Windows OS, we have him to thank."Oct 13 16:33
MinceRs/^.//Oct 13 16:33
MinceRit's an obvious effort to avoid mentioning GNU/LinuxOct 13 16:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Slovakia Passes EFSF Expansion Vote | ZeroHedge #WTF #FAIL #collapse #moredebt http://goo.gl/lnlmiOct 13 16:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slovakia Passes EFSF Expansion Vote | ZeroHedge .::. Size~: 106.68 KBOct 13 16:34
DaemonFCdid they mention any of the BSDs?Oct 13 16:34
DaemonFCthey're always proud of their "UNIX legacy"Oct 13 16:34
MinceRthey mention what i pastedOct 13 16:34
DaemonFCLinux and the BSDs are more UNIX-ish than Android or iOSOct 13 16:35
MinceR"Linux and the BSDs" sounds like a band nameOct 13 16:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Apple comntinue to innovate even after Jobs' departure http://is.gd/aaOBv2 #australiaOct 13 16:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Apple continues to innovate even after Jobs' departure http://is.gd/aaOBv2 #australiaOct 13 16:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple wins preliminary Galaxy Tab 10.1 ban in Australia .::. Size~: 33.65 KBOct 13 16:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple wins preliminary Galaxy Tab 10.1 ban in Australia .::. Size~: 33.65 KBOct 13 16:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @reality RIP Dennis Ritchie, creator of the C programming language and key developer of the UNIX operating system. Now there's some a ...Oct 13 16:39
schestowitzsunny weekend ahead http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/9Oct 13 16:39
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iophkhttp://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-20119811-92/dennis-ritchie-father-of-c-programming-language-dies/Oct 13 16:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dennis Ritchie, father of C programming language, dies | Business Tech - CNET News .::. Size~: 71.25 KBOct 13 16:39
schestowitzHis death serves to remind us that only rich people get much media hype when they dieOct 13 16:40
schestowitzLet's see if he gets fame outside of tech sitesOct 13 16:40
iophkhttp://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/business-of-it/2011/10/13/dennis-ritchie-father-of-unix-and-c-dies-40094176/Oct 13 16:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dennis Ritchie, father of Unix and C, dies | Business of IT | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 60.24 KBOct 13 16:41
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84561377Oct 13 16:42
TechrightsBot-tr@Jacob Barkdull (jacobwb)'s status on Thursday, 13-Oct-11 04:52:52 UTC - Identi.ca: Dennis Ritchie is someone who deserves praise, he actually created today's technology, unlike Jobs. !GNU, !Linux, and MacOS, are all !Unix.Oct 13 16:42
iophkhttp://www.crazyengineers.com/dennis-ritchie-creator-of-c-programming-language-unix-dies-1129/Oct 13 16:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dennis Ritchie, Creator Of C Programming Language & UNIX Dies - CrazyEngineers .::. Size~: 53.77 KBOct 13 16:46
DaemonFCOpera(v12.00) Scored:Oct 13 16:46
DaemonFC9458 PointsOct 13 16:46
DaemonFCnice :)Oct 13 16:46
schestowitzIT sitesOct 13 16:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] After 51 days of uptime on my desktop, last night I did something risky with the toaster. Outage. Ouch! Back to 0.Oct 13 16:47
DaemonFCrunning today's Firefox 9 buildOct 13 16:49
iophk"He created the modern interactive operating system.”Oct 13 16:50
iophkhttp://blogs.siliconvalley.com/gmsv/2011/10/quoted-on-dennis-ritchies-legacy.htmlOct 13 16:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Quoted: on Dennis Ritchie’s legacy | Good Morning Silicon Valley .::. Size~: 28.7 KBOct 13 16:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Europeana tags half a million #publicdomain works w/PD mark! http://bit.ly/omqocV Example: http://bit.ly/rfiOdtOct 13 16:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: New look Europeana launches .::. Size~: 12.16 KBOct 13 16:50
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schestowitziophk: where's NY TImes...Oct 13 16:51
schestowitzo any non-tech blogs?Oct 13 16:52
DaemonFCI thought Steve Jobs created everythingOct 13 16:52
schestowitzmarketedOct 13 16:52
schestowitz /took credit forOct 13 16:52
DaemonFCnow he's gone to battle zombie Jesus in the afterlife to take his rightful placeOct 13 16:52
schestowitzhe helps remove all that Jobs hypeOct 13 16:52
schestowitzIMHO, Jobs did not deserve much respectOct 13 16:52
schestowitzJobs was neither humble nor nice... nor an innovatorOct 13 16:52
MinceRjobs deserves no respectOct 13 16:53
MinceRhe was a thief who respected nobody's freedomOct 13 16:53
DaemonFC[11:53] <DaemonFC> RoboDuck: Dennis Ritchie Oct 13 16:54
DaemonFC[11:53] <RoboDuck> DaemonFC: Ritchie, co-author of the Unix operating system, inventor of the C programming language and demigod. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_RitchieOct 13 16:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dennis Ritchie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 75.02 KBOct 13 16:54
DaemonFC:)Oct 13 16:54
schestowitzfreedom the Apple way: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/608482Oct 13 16:54
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DaemonFCFirefox(v9.0a2) Scored:Oct 13 16:54
DaemonFC5882 PointsOct 13 16:54
DaemonFCOpera is kicking assOct 13 16:54
iophkhttp://www.train2game.com/2011/10/maverick-creator-of-c-programming-language-dies/Oct 13 16:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Maverick creator of C programming language dies .::. Size~: 27.87 KBOct 13 16:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Dennis Ritchie: A Tribute to a Great Man http://ur1.ca/5ecjh #unixOct 13 16:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks legal updates http://t.co/PxNRmcnpOct 13 16:55
DaemonFC"On April 21, 1999, Thompson and Ritchie jointly received the National Medal of Technology of 1998 from President Bill Clinton for co-inventing the UNIX operating system and the C programming language which together have led to enormous advances in computer hardware, software, and networking systems and stimulated growth of an entire industry, thereby enhancing American leadership in the Information Age."Oct 13 16:55
DaemonFCWow, Clinton did do something rightOct 13 16:56
iophkStill only a very small number of articles and little main stream.Oct 13 16:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dennis Ritchie: A Tribute to a Great Man | Slated .::. Size~: 33.78 KBOct 13 16:56
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iophkDaemonFC: http://www.netfunny.com/rhf/jokes/98/Mar/suaddress.htmlOct 13 16:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: State of Union Address Clinton Should Have Given [rec.humor.funny] .::. Size~: 6.08 KBOct 13 16:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Slowish? Try downloading the software to your own server and using that instead.Oct 13 16:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Free! [IMG] http://ur1.ca/5ecmjOct 13 16:57
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DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQmeksP4GtY&feature=relatedOct 13 16:59
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iophkhttp://www.bell-labs.com/news/1999/april/28/1.htmlOct 13 17:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bell Labs: Ritchie and Thompson Receive National Medal of Technology from President Clinton .::. Size~: 25.96 KBOct 13 17:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !listening to the smooth @timlouisjazz cover of the Johnny Cash classic "I Walk The Line"Oct 13 17:00
DaemonFCI need to get rid of Bing againOct 13 17:05
DaemonFC:POct 13 17:05
*DaemonFC had to delete his old Opera profileOct 13 17:05
DaemonFCOpera Link is nice, one click and it's just like your last backupOct 13 17:06
DaemonFCit even restors your content blocker settingsOct 13 17:07
DaemonFChttp://techcrunch.com/2011/10/13/union-square-ventures-invests-in-alternative-search-engine-duckduckgo/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Techcrunch+%28TechCrunch%29Oct 13 17:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Union Square Ventures, Others Invest In Alternative Search Engine DuckDuckGo | TechCrunch .::. Size~: 61.41 KBOct 13 17:09
DaemonFCschestowitz: Any idea who these people are?Oct 13 17:09
DaemonFCdaily direct searches on duckduckgo have increased over six fold since AprilOct 13 17:10
DaemonFChttp://www.crunchbase.com/financial-organization/union-square-venturesOct 13 17:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Union Square Ventures | CrunchBase Profile .::. Size~: 76.38 KBOct 13 17:11
iophkThe mainstream articles are poorly researched:Oct 13 17:11
iophkhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15287391Oct 13 17:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Unix creator Dennis Ritchie dies aged 70 .::. Size~: 64.64 KBOct 13 17:11
DaemonFChttp://www.usv.com/Oct 13 17:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Union Square Ventures: A New York Venture Capital Fund Focused on Early Stage & Startup Investing .::. Size~: 28.87 KBOct 13 17:11
schestowitzI should write to rms...Oct 13 17:12
schestowitz"Dear Richard Stallman, Your remarks on Steve Jobs are ones I can relate to. Backlash came from exactly those whom you ought to expect. I think that now that a co-inventor of UNIX and of C has been declared dead it would be tactful to say something about him, if only just to show that Dr. Stallman is saddened by some people's departure."Oct 13 17:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Why is Obama soft on the tanning industry? http://identi.ca/url/54091906Oct 13 17:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How Tanning Changes the Brain - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 89.89 KBOct 13 17:15
schestowitziophk: what's wrong with the BBC article?Oct 13 17:16
DaemonFChttp://www.filehurricane.com/viewerthumbnails/88200842423PM_bettywhite.jpgOct 13 17:16
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schestowitzI read it critically, it seems OKOct 13 17:16
DaemonFCschestowitz: The backblast from dissing that turd has been enormous Oct 13 17:16
DaemonFC:)Oct 13 17:16
schestowitzyesOct 13 17:16
schestowitzbut it also made more people aware of RMSOct 13 17:16
schestowitzSo from a publicity POV, it wasn't all that badOct 13 17:17
DaemonFCis this where we say even negative attention is good?Oct 13 17:17
schestowitzJobs had foes also outside of the GNU project and FSF 'movement'Oct 13 17:17
DaemonFCpeople won't see the FSF, they're more likely to read RMS's political blogOct 13 17:17
DaemonFCand just hate him moreOct 13 17:17
schestowitzWhy?Oct 13 17:17
schestowitzDid you read it?Oct 13 17:17
schestowitzHe advocates freedom and peace thereOct 13 17:18
schestowitzI never saw him justifying a war for example...Oct 13 17:18
DaemonFCno, he advocates boycotting companies for selling bulldozersOct 13 17:18
DaemonFCnothing like tilting at windmillsOct 13 17:18
iophkschestowitz: rather shallow; I guess my main nit to pick is that even if C is widely used AS a programming language it is even more widely used to IMPLEMENT other languages.  As such, there are few places it isn't.Oct 13 17:18
schestowitzPeople who don't like him blog are unlikely to love the FSF anyway (i.e. not the target audience)Oct 13 17:18
iophkSome of the articles just seem like a warm over of Pike's G+ message.Oct 13 17:18
schestowitzI think it's shameful that a person's death gets declared like thisOct 13 17:19
schestowitzIMHOOct 13 17:19
schestowitz5 days after his deathOct 13 17:19
schestowitzSome blurb in a lousy platform that robs people of their rightsOct 13 17:19
schestowitzI'm sure the family could come up with a statement more well presented than that. But that's just my inisial opinionOct 13 17:20
schestowitzAnd then people upvoting the deathOct 13 17:20
schestowitzApple.com at least made a tribute pageOct 13 17:20
schestowitzWhich was more respectableOct 13 17:20
schestowitzHere you have this sort of "Like! +1 Like!Like!Like!Like!"Oct 13 17:20
schestowitzIf you were to die, this is probably not how you'd want it brought to the publicOct 13 17:21
schestowitzLike!Like!Like!Like!Like!Like!Like!Like!Oct 13 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] You can hit the "pause" button at the top of the page; that's usually good for slowing things down.Oct 13 17:29
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iophkHis former emplyer has a short announcement:Oct 13 17:30
iophkhttp://www2.alcatel-lucent.com/blogs/corporate/2011/10/dennis-ritchie-1941-2011-message-from-jeong-kim/Oct 13 17:30
iophkYou can see in the picture that he is no longer as healthy as before.Oct 13 17:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dennis Ritchie 1941-2011: Message from Jeong Kim | Alcatel-Lucent - The Blog - Alcatel-Lucent .::. Size~: 63.88 KBOct 13 17:31
TechrightsBot-trYou can see in the picture that he is no longer as healthy as before.Oct 13 17:31
schestowitzyeahOct 13 17:32
MinceRseems to be slashdottedOct 13 17:32
schestowitz<http://apple.slashdot.org/story/11/10/13/1351254/no-pdfs-no-co-editing-on-underwhelming-apple-icloud>Oct 13 17:33
schestowitz<quote>Oct 13 17:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: No PDFs, No Co-editing On Underwhelming Apple iCloud - Slashdot .::. Size~: 134.79 KBOct 13 17:33
schestowitz"Apple's iCloud service has been a little overlooked in the bunfightOct 13 17:33
schestowitzfor the iPhone 4S. When it was first announced some predicted it wouldOct 13 17:33
schestowitzwipe out companies like Box.net, DropBox and so on. As the NYTimes putOct 13 17:33
schestowitzit, "Maybe Apple will kill them all.' Box.net's CEO disagreed and itOct 13 17:33
schestowitzlooks like he was right. You can't store PDFs and images on iCloudOct 13 17:33
schestowitzexcept with PhotoStream, there's no co-editing, and the documentOct 13 17:33
schestowitzmanagement interface is a shambles."Oct 13 17:33
schestowitz</quote>Oct 13 17:33
schestowitzSounds as 'underwhelming' as iPhones compared to Android phones.Oct 13 17:33
schestowitzUbuntu Community in Trouble? http://is.gd/SZsYlPOct 13 17:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu Community in Trouble? «  Bryan Quigley .::. Size~: 81.81 KBOct 13 17:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] We have a built-in IRC bridge now.Oct 13 17:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Apple hypeCloud sucks http://ur1.ca/5eczyOct 13 17:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: No PDFs, No Co-editing On Underwhelming Apple iCloud - Slashdot .::. Size~: 134.81 KBOct 13 17:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] yeah, @stav is my dad!Oct 13 17:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] ♺ @schestowitz: #Apple continues to innovate even after Jobs' departure http://is.gd/aaOBv2 #australiaOct 13 17:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple wins preliminary Galaxy Tab 10.1 ban in Australia .::. Size~: 33.63 KBOct 13 17:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] The Structure of Scientific RevolutionsOct 13 17:40
MinceRshould have used scare quotes for "innovate"Oct 13 17:41
MinceR:>Oct 13 17:41
iophkIt may be as a result of Jobs departure.  We still do not know how much he moderated or exacerbated the patent-craziness there at Apple.  Oct 13 17:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] ♺ @tjvision: RIP Dennis Ritchie "UNIX is very simple, it just needs a genius to understand its simplicity" http://t.co/lHRRF4KaOct 13 17:42
iophkThe patent craziness did rise as his involvement in the company diminished.Oct 13 17:42
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MinceRyet he kept mouthing off about others "stealing" his "innovation"Oct 13 17:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] oh what the hell... why not. http://ur1.ca/5ed0u #sip_and_click #its_backOct 13 17:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] though the tags aren't required, I've done well without them..Oct 13 17:45
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schestowitz_Goblin: didja get ma mail?Oct 13 17:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] as for someone to follow, I'd highly suggest @laurelrusswurm, she's always really interesting to read.Oct 13 17:47
schestowitziophk: MinceR “I’ll just sue you.” -- teve Jobs http://t.co/7mHl7S3UOct 13 17:48
schestowitzThis sows everal thingsOct 13 17:48
schestowitz1) this goiesm  way backOct 13 17:48
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schestowitzBut Apple kept it in the boiler roomOct 13 17:48
schestowitz2) Steve WAS in FAVOUR of thatOct 13 17:48
schestowitz3) Steve thinks he's so wonderful and innovative, and if someone makes money, only then it matters to himOct 13 17:49
schestowitzback in those days... we look just a short time after his cancer diagnosisOct 13 17:49
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schestowitzTalk about rethinking one's value of life and ethics..Oct 13 17:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] yep, you'll fit in just fine here....Oct 13 17:52
schestowitzMaking Money by Giving, GNU/Linux Users Pay the Most http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAwMDIOct 13 17:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] http://identi.ca/url/54092182Oct 13 17:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #identica is being flaky, inconsistent, and not reliable these days. I hope this gets sorted out soon as it has become a nuisance.Oct 13 17:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I agree!Oct 13 17:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #KDE Turns 15 This Week http://is.gd/3bTjW8 #gnu #linux #desktopOct 13 17:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] only if you make one.Oct 13 17:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Thomas' blog: 2 days to go and KDE turns 15! .::. Size~: 50.48 KBOct 13 17:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #fanboy forum responses only do your community a disservice http://goo.gl/I0Lur #Debian !linuxOct 13 18:00
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84571637Oct 13 18:02
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 13-Oct-11 16:52:17 UTC - Identi.ca: Polish Schools Have Students Polish Their FLOSS Skills http://is.gd/i1qbHG #poland #euOct 13 18:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] An excellent appraisal of the delusions scientists are capable of http://bit.ly/qd1qLTOct 13 18:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] recession tip: when your employer tells you you're being laid off, respond that you're "considering your position" ....indefinitelyOct 13 18:04
DaemonFCwe like to fire people on FridaysOct 13 18:05
DaemonFCstudies have statistically shown that there's less chance of an incident that wayOct 13 18:05
DaemonFC:)Oct 13 18:05
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84571436Oct 13 18:06
TechrightsBot-tr@Joel Adamson (trashbird1240)'s status on Thursday, 13-Oct-11 16:38:28 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz: Many more people are killed by needless craving than by terroristsOct 13 18:06
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84571425Oct 13 18:06
TechrightsBot-tr@Joel Adamson (trashbird1240)'s status on Thursday, 13-Oct-11 16:37:17 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz: !hilarious: "innovate" :POct 13 18:06
DaemonFCschestowitz: Indiana now has an offiical online universityOct 13 18:07
DaemonFCI checked out their "IT" stuffOct 13 18:07
DaemonFCall Microsoft Oct 13 18:07
DaemonFCunless you count Cisco networking and Oracle JavaOct 13 18:07
DaemonFCMicrosoft UniversityOct 13 18:08
DaemonFC:POct 13 18:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I think there's a bug report open for that.Oct 13 18:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] seems the stock response of "I'm considering my position" works for the elite, why not you?Oct 13 18:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "UNIX is basically a simple operating system, but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity." ~ (the late) dmrOct 13 18:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] I think it's on the 4th day in the US too.Oct 13 18:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Rooney gets 3 match ban for the #Euro's meaning the whole group stage, or whole tournament if England don't get passed the group stageOct 13 18:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Occupy Wall Street – Take the Bull by the Balls With a Huge Pair of Pliers… http://is.gd/ZvxaJF #cdnpoli #occupywallstOct 13 18:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] That second part doesn't make sense. All replies to you should show up on your replies page.Oct 13 18:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Fortunately I've got you to check my work.Oct 13 18:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Rooney - if yer a key player, it's unfair to be banned like regular players - cue the hypocritical appeals by #England !footballOct 13 18:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] it's fast at first, but then your mind adapts to it and it gets pretty normal(plus you aren't scrambling around)Oct 13 18:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Undercover Cops and Politicians Escape BitTorrent Lawsuits http://goo.gl/iUJc0 - aka friends don't sue friendsOct 13 18:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] I am thinking to move to Bangalore !!Oct 13 18:14
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DaemonFCFrostwire dropped gnutella supportOct 13 18:27
DaemonFCand is now a bittorent client onlyOct 13 18:27
DaemonFC(written in java, blecth)Oct 13 18:27
schestowitzblech indeed, _For desktop apps_Oct 13 18:29
schestowitzI had to install it recently for xplorerOct 13 18:29
schestowitz*jOct 13 18:29
schestowitzldapOct 13 18:29
DaemonFCschestowitz: I am glad that the last major gnutella client is goneOct 13 18:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Great, thanks.Oct 13 18:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @laurelrusswurm: "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."~George OrwellOct 13 18:32
DaemonFCthe entire network is crapOct 13 18:32
DaemonFC(despite the name, it had nothing to do with gnu, Justin Frankel from Nullsoft wrote the protocol in the late 90s and hosted some nonfree demonstration code on the site before AOL threw a fit and made him take it down)Oct 13 18:33
DaemonFCthe protocol was reverse engineered from the proprietary application that he wrote Oct 13 18:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] well we had a bit of an exodus thanks to google+, so we need to get our numbers back up :POct 13 18:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @laurelrusswurm: "newspapers will have you hating [those] being oppressed and loving [those] doing the oppressing."~MalcolmXOct 13 18:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] BahnDiskussion auf der !fsfe mailinglist http://ur1.ca/5edl7 erinnert mich gerade an mein #Bahn Eintrag http://ur1.ca/1zk0lOct 13 18:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] BahnDiskussion auf der !fsfe mailinglist http://ur1.ca/5edl7 erinnert mich gerade an mein #Bahn Eintrag http://ur1.ca/1zk0lOct 13 18:37
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84572204Oct 13 18:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Warum ich die Bahn anlügen musste «  I love it here .::. Size~: 9.74 KBOct 13 18:40
TechrightsBot-tr@Benjamin Rochefort (mtlben)'s status on Thursday, 13-Oct-11 17:22:23 UTC - Identi.ca: Good for them! Proprietary software should be banned from all schools.Oct 13 18:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @evan making you a lucky guy; your dad is one cool dude. :)Oct 13 18:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] yeah, jwildeboer, fabsh, etc.Oct 13 18:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @robmyers: RT @zotz "While I'd love it if Stallman would retire" - so wait... he wants @RMS gone too.Oct 13 18:45
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schestowitz"I hope so too, the route identica has taken since the "upgrade" is worrying me." http://joindiaspora.com/posts/612295Oct 13 18:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @mtlben @laurelrusswurm yeah, 'banned' may be harsh. Let's say 'actively discouraged' :). Compelling arguments here: http://identi.ca ...Oct 13 18:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Yes... only on 2nd paragraph but very true. (remembering scrambling to buy expensive software so my kid could use it at home, long obsolete)Oct 13 18:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Public timeline - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 67.77 KBOct 13 18:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana I don't know who they are/were. would you be so kind as to clue me in, please?Oct 13 18:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Was mathematics invented or discovered? http://identi.ca/url/54092091 !scienceOct 13 18:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] U.S. Senator Wyden Raises Questions About ACTA Implementation http://identi.ca/url/54092763Oct 13 18:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @fontana No, people don't. Outside the free software community people don't know who rms is, either.Oct 13 19:00
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DaemonFCI think I may need a plungerOct 13 19:08
DaemonFC*plumberOct 13 19:08
DaemonFCagghhOct 13 19:08
*DaemonFC is exhaustedOct 13 19:08
DaemonFCsomething has clogged up the sewage pipes in this house real goodOct 13 19:08
DaemonFCthe only break I took in the last 10 minutes it to switch to an auger  Oct 13 19:08
DaemonFCwhich isn't working eitherOct 13 19:09
DaemonFCI'm guessing Dawn ate another one of her sexual partners and tried to flush the inedible bone content or somethingOct 13 19:09
schestowitzyour hygienic bandages don't go in the pipes... :pOct 13 19:09
DaemonFCewwwwwOct 13 19:09
DaemonFChttp://yfrog.com/ntt1sbwjOct 13 19:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: @rands you asked for this, you got it. .::. Size~: 33.57 KBOct 13 19:10
DaemonFC:)Oct 13 19:10
DaemonFCI'll never know why these people decide to come do the lawn work when it's raining outsideOct 13 19:12
DaemonFCI've discovered a few minor glitches in Opera's new OpenGL supportOct 13 19:13
DaemonFCreported themOct 13 19:13
DaemonFCshowing the main menu makes the tab menu mostly disappearOct 13 19:13
DaemonFCsometimes launching a link from an external application causes the Opera tab to show my desktop wallpaper for a split secondOct 13 19:14
DaemonFCoverall it works well for alpha quality codeOct 13 19:14
DaemonFCFirefox has claimed to have OpenGL support since version 4Oct 13 19:14
DaemonFCbut it's too broken to use on anything but the proprietary Nvidia driverOct 13 19:15
DaemonFChow's that for irony, free software that recommends proprietary drivers vs proprietary software that works with free driversOct 13 19:15
schestowitzIt's not so weirdOct 13 19:16
schestowitzmaybe their recommendation are simply not idealogicalOct 13 19:17
schestowitzsometimes free is better technicallyOct 13 19:17
DaemonFCFirefox doesn't seem to care about anyone that's not using Nvidia with proprietary driversOct 13 19:18
iophkHas the Opensourcerer done another article on cleaning mono from Oneiric Ocelot?Oct 13 19:20
DaemonFCyeah, it's called "Here's a nickel kid, buy yourself a decent desktop"Oct 13 19:21
DaemonFC:)Oct 13 19:21
DaemonFCyou know, like KDE or XFCE or LXDE, which don't require it in the first placeOct 13 19:21
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DaemonFCtrying to purge Mono from Ubuntu at this point will leave you as a second class citizen on their desktopOct 13 19:22
DaemonFCsince the replacements for the software written in Mono aren't well-integrated into UnityOct 13 19:22
DaemonFCit's not a dig against Rhythmbox or anything, it's just that Ubuntu only cares what Banshee doesOct 13 19:23
DaemonFCif you want choice, go elsewhereOct 13 19:23
DaemonFCUbuntu seems to be going for the same kind of consistency that McDonalds hasOct 13 19:23
DaemonFCit's consistently mediocre everywhere :)Oct 13 19:24
DaemonFCbut they're not well equipped to start doing things that aren't on the menuOct 13 19:24
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DaemonFCthe other desktops don't seem to be doing weird custom system trays that don't workOct 13 19:25
DaemonFCand stuff that violates freedesktop.org specsOct 13 19:25
koolhead17schestowitz holaOct 13 19:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] 45% of top 185 US websites transmit identifying details about visitors to at least 4 outside websites. https://eff.org/r.1DF #privacyOct 13 19:25
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koolhead17DaemonFC: howdyOct 13 19:25
DaemonFChelloOct 13 19:26
koolhead17anyone else awake :POct 13 19:26
schestowitzkoolhead17: bonjourOct 13 19:28
DaemonFCRPM Fusion went and packaged Catalyst 11.9Oct 13 19:30
DaemonFCnow Fedora users can crash and burn tooOct 13 19:30
DaemonFC:)Oct 13 19:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] In a #bash script, I want to grab a row from a MySQL table and use it to set env variables. How?Oct 13 19:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @jorgestolfi: "Um mundo diferente não pode ser construído por gente indiferente." --Peter MarshallOct 13 19:37
DaemonFChttp://my.opera.com/ruario/blog/2011/10/13/opera-12-00-themes-on-linux-and-freebsdOct 13 19:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Dutch ISP hits Spamhaus with police complaints for getting caught hosting a spammer http://identi.ca/url/54093148Oct 13 19:45
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cubezzzis silverlight dead?Oct 13 19:47
cubezzzI still see it pop up occassionallyOct 13 19:47
DaemonFCI don't see it being used anywhereOct 13 19:47
MinceRm$ gave up on itOct 13 19:50
MinceRthey still use the name on phony7 and perhaps on suXboxOct 13 19:50
MinceRalso, one of the hungaristani tv channels hide their online watchable shows behind itOct 13 19:53
MinceRapparently the other channel got a fucking clue and switched to Trash alreadyOct 13 19:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] 920 spammers silenced today; the most this year. I think we can get over 1000 if we try.Oct 13 19:57
cubezzzthere's been a lot of discussion about UEFI and secure boot loadersOct 13 19:57
cubezzzI'll be researching my next motherboard very carefullyOct 13 19:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] int main(int Dennis, char *Ritchie[]) { return 0; /* RIP :-( */ }Oct 13 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] This happens to me a lot, actually.Oct 13 20:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] 32.Oct 13 20:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Thursday http://ur1.ca/5eet1Oct 13 20:09
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84572546Oct 13 20:17
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 13-Oct-11 17:47:21 UTC - Identi.ca: #Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot launches http://ur1.ca/5edv1Oct 13 20:17
schestowitzSabayon 7 KDE and GNOME 3 screenshots http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/10/12/sabayon-7-kde-and-gnome-3-screenshots/Oct 13 20:17
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schestowitz"Oct 13 20:28
schestowitzSame here. I emailed a couple of medias to ask em to publish at least something on the man whose work Jobs used every day.Oct 13 20:28
schestowitz"Goodbye World"Oct 13 20:28
schestowitz"Oct 13 20:28
schestowitz"It makes me sad to see how little this news is delivered by the media. Compared to Steve Jobs, Ritchies influence to present computer systems and informatic was much more."Oct 13 20:28
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/612787Oct 13 20:28
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cubezzzRichie got recognition thoughOct 13 20:29
cubezzzHim and ThompsonOct 13 20:30
cubezzzno one is going to forget UnixOct 13 20:31
MinceRexcept for the masses who never knewOct 13 20:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] D.Ritchie set C and Unix Free; S.Jobs broke GPL to make Objective C and unFreed a Free Unix. who does (de)press mourn?Oct 13 20:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Politics [IMG] http://ur1.ca/5ef3cOct 13 20:32
cubezzzthe real forgotten guy is EngelbartOct 13 20:33
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schestowitzBut the point is, we are trying to show the comparison t Jobs publicity  One geta hardly any fame for doing a lot. The other portrayed as a God.Oct 13 20:33
cubezzzor to a lesser degree KildallOct 13 20:33
schestowitzEngelbart I knew abou8t Oct 13 20:33
schestowitzI think he's in some youtube videosOct 13 20:33
schestowitztimbl got a lot of publicutyOct 13 20:33
schestowitzpeople before him with similar concept are notOct 13 20:33
schestowitzunless you study hypermedia and stuffOct 13 20:34
cubezzzI remember hypercard, but I never used itOct 13 20:34
cubezzzcame out in 1987Oct 13 20:35
cubezzzthere's a 1941 novel that evidently is in a "hypertext style"Oct 13 20:36
Diablo-D3The Garden of Forking PathsOct 13 20:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Oh my goodness, I love it when auto-spamming tools use easy-to-search-for boilerplate text.Oct 13 20:37
cubezzzyes, that's itOct 13 20:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is gomerx with 47 dents!Oct 13 20:40
MinceRhttps://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/MemexOct 13 20:41
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 403 ForbiddenOct 13 20:41
schestowitz"Nice, I'll have a peek. Especially interested in the KDE screenshots, I've been wanting to switch to it from Gnome for a while." http://joindiaspora.com/posts/612840Oct 13 20:41
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schestowitzOpenBytes/Goblin recent moved from GNOME to KDEOct 13 20:42
_Goblin:)Oct 13 20:42
schestowitzmaybe I should say that to him tooOct 13 20:42
schestowitzwill post..Oct 13 20:42
_GoblinI had feedback about the show regarding KDEOct 13 20:42
schestowitzcan you highlight usernames there?Oct 13 20:42
schestowitzLike @NAME?Oct 13 20:42
_Goblinsomeone loved the analogy I drew with taming KDE was like taming the dragon on the film avatar..... a difficult task but a faithful beast when mastered.Oct 13 20:43
schestowitzoh, let's count downloadsOct 13 20:43
schestowitz500 mp3Oct 13 20:44
schestowitz2000 oggOct 13 20:45
schestowitzin one dayOct 13 20:45
schestowitzfor all shows combinedOct 13 20:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] “Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.” ― Dr. Seuss !qOct 13 20:45
schestowitzplus the caches ones and youtube (which is a negligible one)Oct 13 20:45
schestowitz*cached not negligible, youtube isOct 13 20:46
schestowitzand it only counts when people open it in a standalone pageOct 13 20:46
schestowitz"Major error when the author calls the Fallback mode Gnome 2, but it's already noted it seems." http://joindiaspora.com/posts/612840Oct 13 20:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Evan Prodromou is not attending !Mozilla #BrowserID #Test_Day.Oct 13 20:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] actually objc wasn't from next, it was developed somewhere else and they implemented a compiler for it.Oct 13 20:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I found a nice regex for a spam tool, silenced about 2600 people. Pretty satisfying.Oct 13 20:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Sometimes. Not really a big deal for me.Oct 13 21:00
schestowitz"I switched from fedora 15 to sabayon 7 Gnome today and everything is OK now. I installed a few Gnome extensions and they made the desktop unavailable (no GUI until the buggy extension was disabled). Seriously, you should give it a try because the system is one of the fastest i've ever tried. "Oct 13 21:02
schestowitzhttp://joindiaspora.com/posts/612840Oct 13 21:02
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DaemonFCI wonder what effect, if any, the death of gnutella has had on the Windows malware situationOct 13 21:03
DaemonFCit was certainly hosting a ton of itOct 13 21:03
schestowitzFor me, Kubuntu LTS works better than F14 with KDE and Mandriva with KDE (older version though). But Debian with KDE works well too.Oct 13 21:03
DaemonFCKubuntu 11.10 is pretty solidOct 13 21:04
DaemonFCperforms wellOct 13 21:04
DaemonFCthe next LTS isn't until April thoughOct 13 21:04
DaemonFCI may stick on that one depending on where it's all at by thenOct 13 21:04
DaemonFC10.04 is too old to properly support some of my hardwareOct 13 21:05
DaemonFCLTS releases have a rule that they can't introduce major new featuresOct 13 21:06
DaemonFCand they are based on Debian Testing, not SidOct 13 21:06
DaemonFCso it probably won't be much different than 11.10Oct 13 21:06
DaemonFCI'm going to say, it will probably have KDE 4.8.xOct 13 21:07
DaemonFCLinux 3.2Oct 13 21:07
DaemonFCMesa 7.12 would be likelyOct 13 21:09
cubezzzby the way, xfce was based on FVWM Oct 13 21:11
cubezzzif you want lightest of the light...  try FVWMOct 13 21:11
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schestowitzwhat does the F strand for?Oct 13 21:12
schestowitz*standOct 13 21:12
cubezzzit used to stand for feeble, but now it stands for nothingOct 13 21:12
schestowitzI hear it standard for the F wordOct 13 21:13
schestowitz'The' F wordOct 13 21:13
DaemonFCformsOct 13 21:13
DaemonFC:)Oct 13 21:14
DaemonFCxforms common environmentOct 13 21:14
DaemonFCfrom when it was based on the xforms toolkitOct 13 21:14
DaemonFCbefore it was rewritten in GTKOct 13 21:14
MinceRthe F in FVWM stands for many things, including "feline"Oct 13 21:14
DaemonFCat the time, xforms was nonfree softwareOct 13 21:14
DaemonFCit no longer isOct 13 21:14
DaemonFCso they had the same problem KDE used toOct 13 21:15
DaemonFCfree software depending on a nonfree toolkitOct 13 21:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Hedge fund billionaire gets 11-year sentence in fraud case http://identi.ca/url/54093790Oct 13 21:15
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cubezzzbut I guess the real granddaddy of window managers was the Ultrix Window ManagerOct 13 21:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] New followers, such joy, ewe spam, click gone! #spammersOct 13 21:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Defend the Occupy Wall Street protesters from eviction by Mayor Bloomberg: http://identi.ca/url/54093398Oct 13 21:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Google should do a #Quidditch game; they seem to like #beta's #HarryPotterOct 13 21:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Hedge fund billionaire gets 11-year sentence in fraud case http://ur1.ca/5efp0 one down, many left to goOct 13 21:19
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MinceRso it seemsOct 13 21:19
schestowitzhttp://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-03-29/india-business/29357499_1_rajat-gupta-raj-rajaratnam-insider-tradingOct 13 21:19
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schestowitzhttp://www.forbes.com/sites/corporateresolutions/2011/10/13/raj-rajaratnam-sentenced-to-11-years-butner-becomes-hottest-club-in-town/Oct 13 21:20
MinceRbeing the only one for X11R1, according to wikipedia :>Oct 13 21:20
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cubezzzsome day I'll run Ultrix in an emulatorOct 13 21:20
cubezzzor even buy a piece of DEC equipment :)Oct 13 21:21
MinceRthen again, i wonder about X10 (and earlier) window managersOct 13 21:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Someone on my local Freecycle group wants a working laptop with wifi and all within walking distance, but he doesn't want to moon on a stickOct 13 21:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Facebook: the Law Says You Can't Have Your Data http://goo.gl/PznvuOct 13 21:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Yahoo Dumps US Chamber Of Commerce Over Its #Extremist Position On #PROTECTIP http://goo.gl/nBNeYOct 13 21:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] But in out defence, @littlet @avlas we Gnome users are better at moaning when things go wrong :)Oct 13 21:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] One day I'll find ause for all these features ..Oct 13 22:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] .. http://ur1.ca/5efzu I only use it for shortening :)Oct 13 22:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] OE2012 as principais medidas de austeridade - Expresso.pt #PT http://goo.gl/qZoAPOct 13 22:00
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MinceRxwm and xnwm were also early wmsOct 13 22:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma @kelzOKO @fredmanglis @dennisMungai @yasena @Mwanikigreen > http://nd.gd/yr For when you need to quickly find out mobile money ratesOct 13 22:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Vicks Accidentally Says It's Been Around For 1,000 Years - The Consumerist http://goo.gl/gIibVOct 13 22:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Dollar Printing Uses 9.7 Tons Of Ink Per Day, And Other Fast Facts About The US Dollar | ZeroHedge http://goo.gl/wz0BiOct 13 22:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'm making a lot of typos today so I probably should admit I'm still waiting for the effects of anaesthetic to where off :(Oct 13 22:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] my brother tells me S.Jobs got back on-line and shared a picture he took in hell: http://ur1.ca/5eg1pOct 13 22:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Who Is Crying For The Father Of C and #UNIX Dennis Ritchie? | Muktware #floss "no C language"...no iphone, android... http://goo.gl/VlDTsOct 13 22:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @bmuluu: @eebrah Twitter! -- #NKTest! na una admit openlyOct 13 22:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joshuagay/@joshuagay] "Secure Boot" is a threat. Stand up for your freedom to install free software! Sign the statement. http://fsf.org/sb !fsf !gnu !lpOct 13 22:32
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MinceRhayOct 13 22:37
schestowitzo/Oct 13 22:39
koolhead17guys am off to sleepOct 13 22:45
koolhead17:)Oct 13 22:45
koolhead17laters!!Oct 13 22:45
koolhead17:DOct 13 22:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] War on RT? - YouTube #usa #uk vs #RT http://ur1.ca/5egdiOct 13 22:45
MinceRo/Oct 13 22:45
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schestowitzkoolhead17: laters mateOct 13 22:49
schestowitzI'll post some links now, got distracted by workOct 13 22:49
schestowitzIs Ubuntu hype over yet?Oct 13 22:49
koolhead17schestowitz. :) Oct 13 22:50
schestowitzIt usualyl clogs up the news twice a year for several days, although it got less severe in recent yearsOct 13 22:50
schestowitzand it wasn't even a jokeOct 13 22:51
DaemonFChttp://img692.imageshack.us/img692/8261/snapshot8v.pngOct 13 22:51
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schestowitzjournalists get preoccupied with promoting the same thing people already know aboutOct 13 22:51
koolhead17schestowitz eroor 3200Oct 13 22:52
koolhead17no media telling about ios5 failOct 13 22:52
koolhead17:POct 13 22:52
schestowitzDaemonFC: for a moment rhere I though you had entered the MS propaganda site ('security')Oct 13 22:52
DaemonFChuh?Oct 13 22:52
schestowitzhuh?Oct 13 22:52
schestowitziOS 5?Oct 13 22:52
DaemonFCwhat's all this now?Oct 13 22:53
DaemonFC:)Oct 13 22:53
schestowitzDaemonFC: him or me?Oct 13 22:53
DaemonFCyouOct 13 22:53
schestowitzhttp://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/jamies-mostly-linux-stuff-10006480/microsoft-on-browser-security-an-oxymoron-10024548/Oct 13 22:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft on Browser Security - an Oxymoron | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 52.07 KBOct 13 22:53
schestowitzamong many more articles about thisOct 13 22:53
MinceR"microsoft security" is indeed an oxymoronOct 13 22:54
schestowitzmicromoromnOct 13 22:54
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koolhead17macromoronOct 13 22:55
DaemonFCMinceR: You're not using Internet Explorer. DANGER DANGER!!!!!! Only Internet Explorer can keep you safe from malware. It always has and always will!Oct 13 22:56
DaemonFC:)Oct 13 22:56
MinceRapparently PDAs haven't disappeared, only the name "PDA" did >> http://www.archos.com/products/ta/archos_43it/index.html?country=hu&lang=enOct 13 22:57
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2011-10-13-002-39-OS-HL-SW http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2011-10-13-002-39-OS-HL-SW-0000Oct 13 22:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ARCHOS .::. Size~: 42.4 KBOct 13 22:57
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schestowitz"Mono alert"Oct 13 22:57
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schestowitzMinceR: sold in absurdistaniOct 13 22:58
schestowitzlooks niceOct 13 22:58
schestowitzhow can it sync with palm-like desktops/apps though?Oct 13 22:58
MinceRdunnoOct 13 22:59
MinceRprobably depends on the PIM applicationOct 13 22:59
schestowitzand it wpn't accept a Universl Connector keyboardOct 13 22:59
schestowitzs Tungsten still owns it!Oct 13 22:59
_GoblinEvening everyoneOct 13 22:59
MinceRit dual-boots into GNU/LinuxOct 13 22:59
Diablo-D3[05:57:25] <MinceR> apparently PDAs haven't disappeared, only the name "PDA" did >> http://www.archos.com/products/ta/archos_43it/index.html?country=hu&lang=enOct 13 22:59
Diablo-D3duhOct 13 22:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ARCHOS .::. Size~: 42.4 KBOct 13 22:59
MinceRand it's a USB hostOct 13 22:59
MinceRhay _Goblin Oct 13 22:59
Diablo-D3its called an iphone or an android phone nowOct 13 22:59
_Goblin:)Oct 13 22:59
schestowitzMinceR: my pmp is from archos, very good, very surableOct 13 22:59
MinceRDiablo-D3: no, i'm not talking about phones :>Oct 13 22:59
Diablo-D3why carry two devices around when you can carry oneOct 13 22:59
schestowitzmade in china, designed in franceOct 13 22:59
Diablo-D3MinceR: yet phones ARE pdas nowOct 13 22:59
schestowitz~100 staff IIRCOct 13 22:59
DaemonFChttp://img850.imageshack.us/img850/5136/snapshot9g.pngOct 13 23:00
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Diablo-D3MinceR: its the convergence of technologyOct 13 23:00
MinceRDiablo-D3: phones tend to be locked down a lotOct 13 23:00
schestowitzDiablo-D3: phone minus the cancer and bills and trackingOct 13 23:00
Diablo-D3MinceR: sure, if you buy an iphoneOct 13 23:00
_GoblinMinceR: You going to come over to Diaspora yet? I have an invite waiting for you....Oct 13 23:00
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MinceR_Goblin: i'll host my own server once i have a VPS to run it onOct 13 23:00
Diablo-D3schestowitz: there is zero evidence of any cancer.Oct 13 23:00
schestowitzIf I wanted a phone, I'd pick up a phone, not a computer ;-)Oct 13 23:00
schestowitzDiablo-D3: check againOct 13 23:01
Diablo-D3no, you.Oct 13 23:01
schestowitzI haveOct 13 23:01
schestowitzindustry-sponsored says noOct 13 23:01
_GoblinExcellent! I'll move over to your pod when you set one upOct 13 23:01
Diablo-D3yes, and so have I repeatedly.Oct 13 23:01
schestowitzWhich is what it's paid to sayOct 13 23:01
schestowitzindependent almost always say "yes"Oct 13 23:01
Diablo-D3schestowitz: yes, but the opposite is true, hippy tree hugger sponsored always say yesOct 13 23:01
MinceRDiablo-D3: also, i find the idea of being able to replace to phone part to keep track of network improvements while keeping the PDA part around interesting :)Oct 13 23:01
schestowitzSo there is a fake "controversy" to act as a delay tacticOct 13 23:01
Diablo-D3there have been no independent ones.Oct 13 23:01
schestowitzsame as global warmingOct 13 23:01
schestowitzthe "cotroversy" serves them OKOct 13 23:02
Diablo-D3MinceR: I dont see a reason to have "network improvements"Oct 13 23:02
MinceRbut i'm mostly just looking at options nowOct 13 23:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Government says PressTV and RussiaToday are the enemy - YouTube #usa vs #RT http://ur1.ca/5egheOct 13 23:02
schestowitzlook at "Fole"Oct 13 23:02
MinceRDiablo-D3: well, the upgrade from EDGE to UMTS/HSPA was a nice one :>Oct 13 23:02
Diablo-D3MinceR: not when you have a 5gb hard limit on dataOct 13 23:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Government says PressTV and RussiaToday are the enemy       - YouTube .::. Size~: 120.61 KBOct 13 23:02
Diablo-D3and phones dont last longer than 5 years anyhow due to the fact people handle themOct 13 23:02
Diablo-D3lol RussiaToday is the enemyOct 13 23:03
MinceReven the limits are being increasedOct 13 23:03
Diablo-D3if RT is the enemy, why do I get them on cable?Oct 13 23:03
Diablo-D3MinceR: I dont carry a cell phoneOct 13 23:03
Diablo-D3you know why?Oct 13 23:03
schestowitzI think AlJazeera is available in many UK cable offeringsOct 13 23:03
Diablo-D3minutes are a scam, there is no such thing, they are fictionalOct 13 23:03
Diablo-D3schestowitz: not in the USOct 13 23:03
schestowitzI knowOct 13 23:03
Diablo-D3anyone who thinks data limits are okay needs to be shipped off to another countryOct 13 23:03
schestowitzThey only like their own PR machines in the USOct 13 23:04
schestowitzBoith are PR machinesOct 13 23:04
Diablo-D3so, whateverOct 13 23:04
schestowitzLying from different angle Oct 13 23:04
Diablo-D3only fags own cell phonesOct 13 23:04
schestowitzNeed to watch both sometimes, find out what cancels the otherOct 13 23:04
Diablo-D3MinceR, schestowitz, stop making out with each other, its disgustingOct 13 23:04
MinceRvery mature arguments there, Diablo-D3 Oct 13 23:04
MinceRwell-reasoned, tooOct 13 23:04
Diablo-D3well, Im in #techrights, so I might as well come down to your levelsOct 13 23:04
schestowitzMinceR: Diablo-D3 likes talking about "gay" and "dick"Oct 13 23:05
Diablo-D3schestowitz: yes, and your very dick obsessedOct 13 23:05
MinceRi can see thatOct 13 23:05
Diablo-D3so it keeps your attentionOct 13 23:05
schestowitzDiablo-D3: I'm notOct 13 23:05
schestowitzExcept when I mention YOU talking about itOct 13 23:05
Diablo-D3yes, thus it proves my pointOct 13 23:05
MinceRDiablo-D3: it seems it's your level, not oursOct 13 23:05
schestowitzhe reads 4chanOct 13 23:05
schestowitzno reading comprehension problems thereOct 13 23:06
Diablo-D3MinceR: nope, not my level.Oct 13 23:06
schestowitzhe used to post "oldfag" hereOct 13 23:06
schestowitzthinking it's still 4chan minsetOct 13 23:06
schestowitz*mindsetOct 13 23:06
Diablo-D3schestowitz: I think you're confusedOct 13 23:06
Diablo-D3if anything, Im an oldfagOct 13 23:06
Diablo-D3I was on the Internet long before you even knew what it wasOct 13 23:06
Diablo-D3you can try to use 4chan as a threat all you want, but I was here before it, and I'll be here after it.Oct 13 23:06
schestowitzfehOct 13 23:06
schestowitzbrOct 13 23:06
Diablo-D3cant troll me Roy, dont even tryOct 13 23:07
MinceRyou're the one trolling here, as usualOct 13 23:08
Diablo-D3Not at allOct 13 23:08
Diablo-D3I just won't take Roy's bait and hes pissedOct 13 23:08
Diablo-D3"oh, industry-funded studies! so evil! cell phones cause cancer!"Oct 13 23:08
Diablo-D3you know what causes cancer?Oct 13 23:09
Diablo-D3coal burning plants. processed food. the cell phone construction materials itself.Oct 13 23:09
Diablo-D3we are bombarded with radio waves of all frequencies every single dayOct 13 23:10
Diablo-D3not from man made sources, but from nature itselfOct 13 23:10
MinceRif you're not trolling then you have certainly taken the baitOct 13 23:10
MinceR000847 < Diablo-D3> only fags own cell phonesOct 13 23:10
Diablo-D3so, if cell phones cause cancer the way you hippies think it does, then reality itself causes cancer.Oct 13 23:11
Diablo-D3the sun? causes cancer. the earth? cancer. air? cancer. bacon? double cancer.Oct 13 23:11
Diablo-D3MinceR: I dunno man, all my gay friends own cell phones.Oct 13 23:11
schestowitz[23:10] <Diablo-D3> we are bombarded with radio waves of all frequencies every single dayOct 13 23:12
schestowitzI don't broadcast themOct 13 23:12
schestowitzNot from my mouthOct 13 23:12
MinceRthen you've taken the bait, pushed it through your gastrointestinal tract and then taken it againOct 13 23:12
Diablo-D3schestowitz: its not the broadcasting thats the issueOct 13 23:12
schestowitz[23:09] <Diablo-D3> coal burning plants. processed food. the cell phone construction materials itself.Oct 13 23:12
Diablo-D3MinceR: not at all, because Im sitting here laughing my ass off.Oct 13 23:12
MinceRturned yourself into a living reel :>Oct 13 23:12
schestowitzSame for global warming argumentsOct 13 23:12
Diablo-D3schestowitz: distance isnt the issue, power levels are.Oct 13 23:12
schestowitzTHe data shows the earth warmingOct 13 23:12
Diablo-D3cell phones don't have strong enough power levels to matterOct 13 23:12
schestowitzWe cannot quite know what causes and factors in, but we can study itOct 13 23:12
schestowitzAnd whether humans are the only factor is irelevantOct 13 23:13
Diablo-D3infact, they radiate radio waves AWAY from your head because your head is a goddamned radiosinkOct 13 23:13
schestowitzIf they are *among* the factors, then we can do something about itOct 13 23:13
Diablo-D3cell phones are becoming lower and lower power to preserve battery life, causing cancer costs too much battery life..Oct 13 23:13
Diablo-D3so bam, I just set your hippie commune on fire.Oct 13 23:13
Diablo-D3laughing all the wayOct 13 23:14
schestowitz[23:12] <Diablo-D3> schestowitz: distance isnt the issue, power levels are.Oct 13 23:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @brashley46 ♺ @MakedaTaylor: Canadian Government Reintroduces Copyright Modernization Act http://t.co/9SwqXSWeOct 13 23:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Thursday's !InconstantMoon chapter serialization is posted: http://ur1.ca/5egg3 !SelfPubOct 13 23:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] Amazing LibreOffice party in Paris. Lots of wonderful people, great food and exciting announcements.Oct 13 23:14
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Diablo-D3cant troll me Roy, dont even try.Oct 13 23:14
schestowitzThey degrade cubicallyOct 13 23:14
Diablo-D3sure they do, but a quasar a few hundred light years away is more likely to give you cancer than a cell phone.Oct 13 23:15
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schestowitzDispersed in all directionsOct 13 23:15
schestowitzdouble the distance, the impact might be 8 times lessOct 13 23:15
schestowitztriple -> 27Oct 13 23:15
DaemonFC[18:15] <DaemonFC> Ballmer rates your browser as "I'm gonna FUCKING KILL IT!!!!!!!" and then throws a chair at you for not using MSIEOct 13 23:15
DaemonFC[18:15] <DaemonFC> Next!Oct 13 23:15
Diablo-D3schestowitz: btw, did you see how many of those tests are designed?Oct 13 23:15
Diablo-D3instead of putting their sensor where the head goes, they just find the strongest output and park in thereOct 13 23:16
schestowitzyou tell me..Oct 13 23:16
Diablo-D3yet they radiate AWAY from the head, because they arent strong enough to reliably get a signal with your head in the wayOct 13 23:16
schestowitzcitattion?Oct 13 23:16
schestowitzthere were man studiesOct 13 23:17
schestowitzI doubt each and everyone cheated like this and got past peer reviewOct 13 23:17
Diablo-D3instead of quoting what the media tells you, read the actual damned studies first.Oct 13 23:17
schestowitzthe media often claims no harm Oct 13 23:17
Diablo-D3most of those "independent" hippie funded research studies? were never peer reviewed.Oct 13 23:17
schestowitzciting studies funded by carriers and phone makersOct 13 23:17
schestowitzwifi too is increasingly being bannedOct 13 23:18
DaemonFChttp://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/10/download_a_gus_fring_halloween.htmlOct 13 23:18
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schestowitzit takes just common sense, as in the case of microwaves and global warmingOct 13 23:18
Diablo-D3ooh! the wifi!Oct 13 23:18
schestowitzif the radiation is there, measure itOct 13 23:18
Diablo-D3fearmongering, the tool of the trollOct 13 23:18
schestowitzthen decide how bad the impact isOct 13 23:18
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schestowitzregulation only limits the damagesOct 13 23:18
MinceRwifi isn't even near your headOct 13 23:19
schestowitzthere is no 'magic' 'sweet spot'Oct 13 23:19
MinceRunless you're using VoIP through a mobile phone without a wireless headset :>Oct 13 23:19
Diablo-D3MinceR: yeah, but schestowitz watches porn on his laptop!Oct 13 23:19
schestowitzMinceR: but it trasmits over a long timOct 13 23:19
schestowitz*timeOct 13 23:19
Diablo-D3MinceR: porn is microwaving his dick!Oct 13 23:19
schestowitzat high intensityOct 13 23:19
schestowitznot on standbyOct 13 23:19
schestowitzpeople around you do too, back and forthOct 13 23:19
schestowitzI don't use a microwaveOct 13 23:20
schestowitzthere are some fake experiments about food cooked in itOct 13 23:20
MinceRand what does it do, besides warming you up immeasurably? :>Oct 13 23:20
schestowitzbut then there is proximity to the machine while it's workingOct 13 23:20
DaemonFC[18:18] <kent\n> "Read about our test methodology" can be summarised as "We think about all IE9's features, and then score other browser by guessing whether or not we think they have those features"Oct 13 23:20
Diablo-D3schestowitz: yeah, hate to tell youOct 13 23:20
DaemonFC[18:19] <DaemonFC> or failing that, just make up lies like usualOct 13 23:20
DaemonFC[18:20] <DaemonFC> pay an "independent consultant" to verify it (or find another one that will)Oct 13 23:20
DaemonFC[18:20] <DaemonFC> Is IDG still available? Excellent!!!Oct 13 23:20
DaemonFC[18:20] <DaemonFC> :)Oct 13 23:20
Diablo-D3the magnetic fields coming out of the microwave?Oct 13 23:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] whoops: huge error re-denting @MakedaTaylor's Canadian DMCA !C11 link - Billboard article regurgitates gov't doublespeak / cc @brashley46Oct 13 23:20
Diablo-D3several magnitudes smaller than the earth itself.Oct 13 23:20
MinceRDaemonFC: not gartner anymore?Oct 13 23:21
DaemonFChell if I knowOct 13 23:21
DaemonFCI don't pay much attention to Microsoft front groupsOct 13 23:21
schestowitzbut earth is very big and its centre very farOct 13 23:21
Diablo-D3let me rephraseOct 13 23:21
DaemonFCthey change names, but offer the same friendly serviceOct 13 23:21
schestowitzit's like talking about the impact of plutoOct 13 23:21
Diablo-D3the earths magnetic field passing through RIGHT NOWOct 13 23:22
schestowitzwhich is less than my gravitational force on someone in the streetsOct 13 23:22
Diablo-D3is several magnitudes more than standing infront of a microwaveOct 13 23:22
schestowitzmicrowaves are not magnetsOct 13 23:22
Diablo-D3wow, schestowitz failed basic science.Oct 13 23:22
Diablo-D3good luck with your trolling, schestowitz, I got work to doOct 13 23:22
schestowitzthey move atoms by trasmitting wavs at high frequenciesOct 13 23:22
schestowitzyour  brain too has atoms in itOct 13 23:23
_Goblin steady....lets not jump to wild conclusionsOct 13 23:23
MinceRmicrowaves are photons which individually have less energy than that of visible lightOct 13 23:23
_Goblin;)Oct 13 23:23
schestowitzDiablo-D3: go back to watching pr0nOct 13 23:23
Diablo-D3unlike you, schestowitz, I actually code foss.Oct 13 23:23
schestowitzI do tooOct 13 23:23
_Goblinnot according to your mate who popped up here a few months backOct 13 23:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Bill !C11 is the new number for the re-introduced Bill C-32 !copyright law; rather than "modernize" it legislates !Canada into last centuryOct 13 23:24
_Goblinhe was rather uncomplimentary about you...Oct 13 23:24
Diablo-D3schestowitz: bullshit you doOct 13 23:24
_Goblinisn't that what your mate said about you?Oct 13 23:24
Diablo-D3_Goblin: who are you talking to?Oct 13 23:25
_Goblinyou.Oct 13 23:25
schestowitzshowing one's manhood by cursingOct 13 23:25
Diablo-D3_Goblin: huh?Oct 13 23:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Great success story about a GSoC project, by new http://Linux.com contributor @rikkikite: http://bit.ly/niA67T #linuxOct 13 23:25
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_Goblinyour friend....your mate the guy who coded audacious or somethingOct 13 23:25
_Goblinthe one who popped up here a few months backOct 13 23:26
Diablo-D3_Goblin: you mean nenolod? no, nenolod only comes in here to troll royOct 13 23:26
_GoblinohOct 13 23:26
_Goblinwell he was trolling you last time I sawOct 13 23:26
_Goblinhe was rather uncomplimentary about your skills or lack of them.Oct 13 23:26
Diablo-D3meh, he tries, but its usually a pathetic attemptOct 13 23:26
DaemonFCOK, so I put gay in my sexual orientation thing in Facebook and now I get ads for raunchy sex with "bears" and HIV treatmentOct 13 23:26
DaemonFCthat's not bigoted at all, is it? :POct 13 23:26
Diablo-D3I think it was during his time where he was trying to get me to stop talking to RoyOct 13 23:26
MinceRDaemonFC: your fault for signing up for DumbFuckBook :>Oct 13 23:27
_Goblinoh..of courseOct 13 23:27
_Goblinits obvious...Oct 13 23:27
Diablo-D3but I reminded nenolod that Im usually the only one in here who actually makes sense half the timeOct 13 23:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Presidential Directives Withheld From White House Website | Secrecy News #obama #mrchange http://goo.gl/NtY4sOct 13 23:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Tech World Mourns Loss of Dennis Ritchie, Father of C and Unix http://ur1.ca/5egob (by me)Oct 13 23:27
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_GoblinI am sure to yourself you do.Oct 13 23:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Technology News: Technology: Tech World Mourns Loss of Dennis Ritchie, Father of C and Unix .::. Size~: 70.34 KBOct 13 23:27
_GoblinI remember having a dream that made perfect sense for the first few moments of waking.Oct 13 23:28
_Goblinthen in the cold light of day it was all rather illogicalOct 13 23:28
_Goblinbut hey hoOct 13 23:28
schestowitzDiablo-D3: LOLOct 13 23:29
schestowitzGood l with aaaaaaaalll thatOct 13 23:29
Diablo-D3honestly, I really should take #techrights off my audiojoinOct 13 23:30
Diablo-D3er, autojoinOct 13 23:30
Diablo-D3I gave up "fighting" a dead company years agoOct 13 23:30
schestowitzaudio is #techbytes - from openbytes and techrightsOct 13 23:30
_Goblinok...bye then.Oct 13 23:30
MinceRhttp://wartard.blogspot.com/2011/10/occupy-wall-street-can-peaceful.htmlOct 13 23:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: War Tard: Occupy Wall Street: Can peaceful protests work anymore? .::. Size~: 111.42 KBOct 13 23:30
schestowitzhttp://www.muktware.com/news/2661Oct 13 23:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Is Samsung Working On Siri Killer App? | Muktware .::. Size~: 34.22 KBOct 13 23:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Google+ hey... #hashtags working on g+ ...niceOct 13 23:32
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_GoblinRight, whats next?Oct 13 23:34
schestowitzSteve is deadOct 13 23:34
schestowitzand SteveOfLinux does this?Oct 13 23:34
schestowitzhttp://www.muktware.com/blogs/2673Oct 13 23:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu Pays Silent Tribute To Steve Jobs! | Muktware .::. Size~: 33.88 KBOct 13 23:34
MinceRwho's surprised?Oct 13 23:34
schestowitzNot Mac AsayOct 13 23:35
MinceRthey have plenty of apple fanboys without asayOct 13 23:35
MinceRs/wit/even &/Oct 13 23:37
MinceRgnOct 13 23:38
schestowitznot manyOct 13 23:38
schestowitzI don't think that many Ubuntu users are Machead wannabesOct 13 23:39
MinceRi think they'll lose the users that aren't apple fanboysOct 13 23:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] If The DOJ Really Wants To Review Anticompetitive Patenting, Why Doesn't It Look At Intellectual Ventures? http://goo.gl/IR6pWOct 13 23:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: If The DOJ Really Wants To Review Anticompetitive Patenting, Why Doesn't It Look At Intellectual Ventures? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 40.24 KBOct 13 23:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Polish translation of the #powerofopen now up at http://thepowerofopen.org/downloads Thanks to @ccpolska for proofing!Oct 13 23:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Power of Open .::. Size~: 4.09 KBOct 13 23:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] How To perform Web Application scanning Anonymously using Tor, W3af and Metasploit « Jeannotclement’s Blog #floss #tips http://goo.gl/s5hctOct 13 23:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How To perform Web Application scanning Anonymously using Tor, W3af and Metasploit « Jeannotclement’s Blog .::. Size~: 31.99 KBOct 13 23:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Current members! Join EFF for drinks on Tuesday for our fall Speakeasy: Bay Area. https://eff.org/r.2DJOct 13 23:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Members-Only Speakeasy: Bay Area, Fall 2011 | Facebook .::. Size~: 20.65 KBOct 13 23:54
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sebsebsebschestowitz: MinceR quite a few users wanting GNome 2 back reallyOct 13 23:55
sebsebseband then the  GNome 3 fallback mode isn't really good enough for many it seems, so they will go back to Ubuntu 11.04 or whateverOct 13 23:56
sebsebsebwell just saying by how I been helping out a bit with teh factoids and such in the big Ubuntu channel todayOct 13 23:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @x11r5 we just found some bubble wrap..Oct 13 23:57
cubezzzI see there's a xubuntu 11.10Oct 13 23:58
schestowitznobody wants wp7Oct 13 23:58
schestowitzso ms gives it away.. Oct 13 23:58
schestowitzhttp://www.ghabuntu.com/2011/10/and-microsoft-came-to-aid-of.html?Oct 13 23:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: And Microsoft came to the aid of disgruntled Blackberry users | GHABUNTU .::. Size~: 209.99 KBOct 13 23:58
DaemonFCyeah, Xubuntu's new theme is niceOct 13 23:59

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