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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Sometimes they smell quite nice, we all know this.Oct 15 00:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Thanks for the link to part 1 ( http://is.gd/64JU4T ) < the "english" button means a unilingual anglo like me can read it :)Oct 15 00:09
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DaemonFChttp://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/10/14/libreoffice-conference-announcements/Oct 15 00:29
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DaemonFChow do they put it on iOS?Oct 15 00:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] If you are unfortunately afflicted that way I can see how music calms and maintains an equilibrium. #blissonearthOct 15 00:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] On the next !tb maybe a short discussion of how url's on Identi.ca can't be distinguished between content and copies.Oct 15 00:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I see women occasionally I new decades ago. When I think of them in quiet times I think of them as they were in their prime.Oct 15 00:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I hope things work out for you.Oct 15 00:49
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schestowitzhi XFaCE, _Goblin, others..Oct 15 01:03
_Goblin:)Oct 15 01:03
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_Goblingood evening?Oct 15 01:03
_Goblinjust as well you were away, Ive been off and on the PC all evening.Oct 15 01:04
_Goblincouldn't have recorded....but tomorrow I will be about.Oct 15 01:04
_Goblinso if you're available it will be nice to do another...Oct 15 01:04
schestowitz_Goblin: tomorrow I can record any timeOct 15 01:07
schestowitzliterallyOct 15 01:07
schestowitznow I have to stay awarke till 9amOct 15 01:07
_GoblinCool!Oct 15 01:07
schestowitzwork..Oct 15 01:07
_Goblinoh dear....Oct 15 01:07
_GoblinI'm going to be retiring shortly.Oct 15 01:07
schestowitzfeels like afternoon :-)Oct 15 01:07
schestowitzI've been adapting a bitOct 15 01:08
schestowitz_Goblin: retiring for the nightOct 15 01:08
_Goblinoh, cast your mind back to pre-show....Ive an answer to that question about the SF2 PCB and the Amiga version being larger...Oct 15 01:08
_Goblinbut, I'll leave it to pre-show tomorrow!Oct 15 01:09
_Goblinand yes retiring for the nightOct 15 01:09
_Goblingot a few bits to clear up....got to finish the piece on Doudou.....Oct 15 01:09
_Goblinalso Ive got one on the decentralized Diaspora network with the benefits and drawbacks...Oct 15 01:10
_Goblinand most importantly......I want to update my pearltree....I'm loving that service....Oct 15 01:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Kevin Spacey in a film equals a recommendation.Oct 15 01:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Yep, consider it on the list. I still live in hope we can have the pleasure of your company on the show soon.Oct 15 01:20
DaemonFCI don't get the whole Diaspora thing (probably because I only kind of half care)Oct 15 01:23
DaemonFCIt's going to be another one of those sausage fests for nerds Oct 15 01:24
DaemonFCeven worse than Google PlusOct 15 01:24
sebsebsebDaemonFC: schestowitz _Goblin  Hmm was just basically trolled by one of the Ubuntu ops, oh what lovely people (sarcasm)Oct 15 01:31
DaemonFC#kubuntu is better Oct 15 01:31
DaemonFCyou run into less of that "I've got the mind of a child and an OP" bullshitOct 15 01:31
sebsebsebDaemonFC: yeah I guess that'st true for that channelOct 15 01:32
DaemonFCIf I had to use a Star Trek example for the typical Ubuntu op, it would probably be TrelaneOct 15 01:32
DaemonFChttp://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/TrelaneOct 15 01:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Security Researcher Threatened With Vulnerability Repair Bill http://identi.ca/url/54106032Oct 15 01:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Brave NYPD "white shirt" heroically punches protester at Occupy Wall Street http://identi.ca/url/54106052Oct 15 01:34
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schestowitz[01:09] <_Goblin> but, I'll leave it to pre-show tomorrow!Oct 15 01:34
schestowitzsorry, was awayOct 15 01:34
DaemonFCchildlike, has some power within their "realm", uses it to play with people as if they were toysOct 15 01:34
DaemonFCEven the Q show some restraint and have rules, that's why I didn't say the QOct 15 01:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Breaking: Wrong People Arrested on Wall Street http://identi.ca/url/54106120Oct 15 01:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Swedish Court Finalizes Jail Sentence For Pirate Bay Co-Founder http://identi.ca/url/54106134Oct 15 01:35
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DaemonFCTo even comment on an Ubuntu blog post, you have to agree to their "Code of Conduct" which basically is what they refer to if they decide you've been rude (which is grounds for a ban)Oct 15 01:36
DaemonFCit's why I don't actually use Ubuntu Forums, you get a lot of stupidity thereOct 15 01:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Student kicked off of campus after protesting debit card that doubles as student ID is reinstated http://identi.ca/url/54106152Oct 15 01:37
DaemonFCthey have the mentality of Mac fanboyismOct 15 01:37
DaemonFCthe "Linsux" term is Linux Youth, it most applies to this Ubuntu fanboyism where they know nothing about the system, but claim to be an expert anyway, and how dare you correct them *ban ban ban*Oct 15 01:38
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DaemonFCthe Ubuntu derivatives seem to draw in a totally different kind of userOct 15 01:39
sebsebsebDaemonFC: yeah and the IRC isn't much better really, well haven't used the fourmsOct 15 01:39
sebsebsebDaemonFC: yeah indeed take MInt for example, lovely IRC  channels :)Oct 15 01:39
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_GoblinRight...before I go....and courtesy of Pearltree (and finding new sites)Oct 15 01:39
_Goblincheck out this one....Oct 15 01:39
sebsebsebDaemonFC: well sometimes get some people who aren't that nice there or wahtever, but in general, lovely IRC channelsOct 15 01:39
Guest81797ugh.  what happened to my nickname?Oct 15 01:39
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DaemonFCPeople who know what they're doing find a different distribution or just avoid Ubuntu ForumsOct 15 01:40
sebsebsebDaemonFC: seems to me, that there are quite a few people in the Ubuntu community, and yep some of them Ubuntu Community Members, who aren't really that nice at allOct 15 01:40
DaemonFCbecause the idiots ten to congragate there Oct 15 01:40
DaemonFC*tendOct 15 01:40
_GoblinIts a chap who winds people up over email....he's very good and its harmless fun....has given me a chuckle...he usually targets people who put adverts for services online....Oct 15 01:40
_Goblinhttp://www.dontevenreply.com/Oct 15 01:41
Guest81797"You failed to identify in time for the nickname twitter" hmph.Oct 15 01:41
DaemonFCIt's OK that they're rude to YOU, you see, they know what they're talking about (no they don't), they mindlessly rubber stamp and apologize for anything Ubuntu does, and they can ban you!Oct 15 01:41
DaemonFCkeep that in mind before engaging them in conversation Oct 15 01:41
sebsebsebDaemonFC: yep nearly said something back to that guy, that could have got me kicked or maybe banned even, but didn't do itOct 15 01:42
Guest81797LUGs have this problem too, they are generally infiltrated with Microsoft TE types.Oct 15 01:42
sebsebsebGuest81797: TE ?Oct 15 01:42
Guest81797Technical Evangelists Oct 15 01:42
DaemonFCOne of the things that gets you banned from Ubuntu Forums is to speak badly of MonoOct 15 01:43
DaemonFCthey'll wipe the thread and ban anyone who said anything bad about itOct 15 01:43
Guest81797really?Oct 15 01:43
DaemonFCyeahOct 15 01:43
sebsebsebGuest81797: I just got trolled by one of the Ubuntu ops on IRC basicalleyOct 15 01:43
sebsebsebby the wayOct 15 01:43
Guest81797then Ubuntu forums should be avoidedOct 15 01:43
sebsebsebso should offtopic Oct 15 01:43
sebsebsebit seemsOct 15 01:43
DaemonFCif you're lucky they'll just close the thread, move it to the trash, and link to the Ubuntu Technical Board defending MonoOct 15 01:43
sebsebseboh I tend to avoide that channel anywayOct 15 01:43
sebsebseb:DOct 15 01:43
_GoblinJono has always been happy to talk about Mono...I don't recall him shying away from any topic.Oct 15 01:44
Guest81797in that case, Microsoft people have taken over the forums - they are just another stacked panel. Oct 15 01:44
DaemonFCthe Mono lobbyists gave up on FedoraOct 15 01:44
DaemonFCthey have their SIG but nothing gets into any of the default installsOct 15 01:44
Guest81797are they still trying to push into Debian?Oct 15 01:45
DaemonFCand Moonlight is banned outrightOct 15 01:45
sebsebseb_Goblin: yeah Jono is great absoutly great, but there really are some people in that community who aren't that nice at allOct 15 01:45
DaemonFCit is in DebianOct 15 01:45
DaemonFCdefault isntallOct 15 01:45
Guest81797really?Oct 15 01:45
DaemonFCyeahOct 15 01:45
Guest81797what packages?Oct 15 01:45
ThistleWebTechnical Information Evangelist Fighters? aka TIE FightersOct 15 01:45
_Goblinsebsebseb: I suppose its the same for any community....unfortunately the badly behaved people can tarnish the decent ones.Oct 15 01:45
Guest81797I can check and removeOct 15 01:45
_GoblinThistleWeb: good one....Oct 15 01:46
*ThistleWeb was thinking of an"I" that fitsOct 15 01:46
sebsebseb_Goblin: some people need to forget about stuff, that happended over two years ago as well,  and leave people aloneOct 15 01:47
sebsebsebor over a year ago evenOct 15 01:48
Guest81797http://linux.slashdot.org/story/09/06/15/1251228/mono-squeezed-into-debian-default-installationOct 15 01:48
Guest81797that did not happen.Oct 15 01:48
DaemonFCall the silverlight download links are downOct 15 01:48
DaemonFCerrrOct 15 01:48
DaemonFCmoonlightOct 15 01:48
DaemonFC:POct 15 01:48
_GoblinThistleweb: Or what about TIE Fudsters...fits betterOct 15 01:49
ThistleWeblolOct 15 01:49
DaemonFCseems Ubuntu no longer packages Moonlight in 11.10Oct 15 01:50
schestowitz[01:44] <_Goblin> Jono has always been happy to talk about Mono...I don't recall him shying away from any topic.Oct 15 01:52
schestowitzNot trueOct 15 01:52
schestowitzhe prefers not to go into itOct 15 01:52
schestowitzSame for other topics like OEM situationOct 15 01:52
DaemonFCschestowitz: any idea why they dropped Moonlight from Ubuntu?Oct 15 01:53
schestowitzhe sometimes slinks awayOct 15 01:53
_Goblinschestowitz: I remember him vividly making it clear pre-show for TechBytes that there was no topic he wouldn't cover.....infact I think said words to the effect of ask what you like.Oct 15 01:53
Guest81797oh shit, it did happen.  tomboy is default installed with squeeze.Oct 15 01:54
_Goblinschestowitz: I also had an hour long conversation with him privately in which he was happy to speak about anything (and we did)Oct 15 01:54
_Goblin(that was about a year ago)Oct 15 01:54
DaemonFCGuest81797: if you remove mono, it will install gnote for you insteadOct 15 01:55
Guest81797I might do that.Oct 15 01:56
Guest81797Hopefully the mono tide will recede now.Oct 15 01:56
DaemonFCit already isOct 15 02:08
DaemonFCall they've managed to deliver this year is point updatesOct 15 02:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Roof, the Roof, the Roof is a Farm! | Inhabitat - Green Design Will Save the World - #preppers #food http://goo.gl/RXF09Oct 15 02:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Know your rights & protect yourself: A cell phone guide for #OccupyWallStreet protesters (and everyone else) https://eff.org/r.1DR #OWSOct 15 02:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Now detained: #Manning-508 days no trial #Assange-322 days no charge #WikiLeaks-326 days US bankg blockade http://t.co/YwdbZaweOct 15 02:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: The rise of US force in Africa: Africa Command: AFRICOM http://t.co/7kXp7tK0Oct 15 02:55
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schestowitzhi stevecarrollOct 15 02:58
DaemonFC[21:56] <crazedpsyc> oh, and the biggest problem, it is 100% unintuitiveOct 15 02:59
DaemonFC[21:56] <klh> can you speak commands to it?Oct 15 02:59
DaemonFC[21:56] <klh> teleportation?Oct 15 02:59
DaemonFC[21:56] <DaemonFC> NO VISTA VOICE RECOGNITION!!!! IT HAS BEEN EXTERMINATED!!!! DEAR AUNT< LETS SO SET THE DOUBLE KILLER DELETE SELECT ALL!!!!!!!Oct 15 02:59
DaemonFC[21:57] <DaemonFC> MALFUNCTION!!!Oct 15 02:59
DaemonFC[21:57] <DaemonFC> ERROR!!!Oct 15 02:59
DaemonFC[21:57] <DaemonFC> B-)Oct 15 02:59
DaemonFC:)Oct 15 02:59
schestowitzLOLOct 15 02:59
schestowitzthe memorisOct 15 02:59
schestowitzwhat ever happened to thatOct 15 03:00
schestowitzthey didn't use voice to marlket vista7Oct 15 03:00
schestowitzin fact, they hyped up "touch"Oct 15 03:00
DaemonFCthe compatibility files are still there, all 1 GB of them Oct 15 03:00
schestowitzbut no arm supportOct 15 03:00
DaemonFCbut nothing in Windows uses itOct 15 03:00
schestowitzso no tablets run vista7Oct 15 03:00
Diablo-D3noOct 15 03:00
Diablo-D3they have tablets that doOct 15 03:00
schestowitzi knowOct 15 03:00
Diablo-D3remember, they DO make x86 tabletsOct 15 03:00
schestowitzI was exaggeratingOct 15 03:00
Diablo-D3and not like, ZOMG INTEL WAAGH tablets as thick as a bookOct 15 03:00
schestowitzbut it's mostly Android vs iOSOct 15 03:01
Diablo-D3yeah, I dont get thatOct 15 03:01
Diablo-D3why the fuck does anyone care about ios OR androidOct 15 03:01
schestowitzmicrosoft too distant.. maybe not even a thirdOct 15 03:01
Diablo-D3neither are suited to Getting Things Done (tm)Oct 15 03:01
schestowitzwill RIM go ahead with tablets?Oct 15 03:01
Diablo-D3RIM is dead imoOct 15 03:01
schestowitzyeahOct 15 03:01
schestowitzagreedOct 15 03:01
schestowitzI said that ages agoOct 15 03:01
Diablo-D3they fucked up the blackberry tabletOct 15 03:02
schestowitzbut who hasn't?Oct 15 03:02
DaemonFCAnd the loss of all those RIM jobs :(Oct 15 03:02
Diablo-D3I mean, they triedOct 15 03:02
Diablo-D3but ... fuck itOct 15 03:02
Diablo-D3its just a horrid pile of shitOct 15 03:02
Diablo-D3even to die hard blackberry fansOct 15 03:02
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Diablo-D3its crapOct 15 03:02
schestowitzDiablo-D3: Steve Jobs is dead nowOct 15 03:02
Diablo-D3so?Oct 15 03:02
schestowitzSo they can have Blows Joba nowOct 15 03:02
Diablo-D3?Oct 15 03:03
Diablo-D3if that was supposed to be a joke, it wasnt funnyOct 15 03:03
schestowitzSteve Jobs=BlowsOct 15 03:03
schestowitzHis nickname hereOct 15 03:03
Diablo-D3yeah see, thats stupidOct 15 03:03
schestowitzMinceR's idea anywayOct 15 03:03
Diablo-D3Why do shit like thatOct 15 03:03
Diablo-D3attack people with concrete facts, not dumb shitOct 15 03:03
schestowitzMinceR never liked jobsOct 15 03:05
schestowitzyears ago he said he should be made "dead in a a fired"Oct 15 03:05
Diablo-D3yeah, and I dont like the "new" jobs eitherOct 15 03:05
schestowitzlater he called him blowsOct 15 03:05
schestowitzlike jobsOct 15 03:05
schestowitzblos Oct 15 03:05
schestowitzgeddit?Oct 15 03:05
Diablo-D3but I dont do dumb shit like thatOct 15 03:05
Diablo-D3schestowitz: yes, and its ignorantOct 15 03:05
Diablo-D3thats something bill o'reilly would doOct 15 03:05
Diablo-D3or other republican radio hostsOct 15 03:05
schestowitzhe'd do it SHOUTINGOct 15 03:06
Diablo-D3DERP HURP, OBAMA, OSAMA, SAME THING, AMIRITE?Oct 15 03:06
Diablo-D3THIS JUST IN, THIS IS A NO SPIN ZONEOct 15 03:06
schestowitzNO PIN ZONEOct 15 03:06
schestowitzORLY has small penis, MUST SHOUTOct 15 03:06
Diablo-D3FUCK IT, I'LL DO IT LIVE!Oct 15 03:06
schestowitzas opposes to do it deadOct 15 03:07
schestowitznecrophiliaOct 15 03:07
schestowitz*opposedOct 15 03:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Usually horizontal granted. Though I once fell asleep stood up carrying 40 kilos.Oct 15 03:19
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stevecarrollthe /?Oct 15 03:23
schestowitz`wrong window?Oct 15 03:23
stevecarrollYeah ;)Oct 15 03:24
schestowitzsnit got banned by goblin todayOct 15 03:24
schestowitznot that I expected itOct 15 03:24
stevecarrollI saw thatOct 15 03:24
schestowitzhe's still lurking and  trolling our other channelsOct 15 03:24
schestowitzThe guy is mentally derangedOct 15 03:24
stevecarrollWouldnt surprise meOct 15 03:24
stevecarrollHas been for years...Oct 15 03:24
schestowitzIIRC he used to obsess over you in USENET, although I never read into those threadsOct 15 03:25
stevecarrollI was looking over the site with the music Tim usedOct 15 03:25
schestowitzI think he's like a closet homosexualOct 15 03:25
schestowitz[michael]Oct 15 03:25
stevecarrollI dunno... but he is a pathological liarOct 15 03:25
schestowitzor just morbidly obsessed with peopleOct 15 03:25
schestowitzSame for the "Flatfish"Oct 15 03:25
stevecarrollSeems so.Oct 15 03:25
schestowitzVery mentally ill people are permitted in unmoderated forumsOct 15 03:25
schestowitzit's the only place they can't be rejected fromOct 15 03:26
stevecarrollThere were people on the 'net that were hounding Snit... I'm pretty sure he believes they were me.Oct 15 03:26
stevecarrollThis wasn't the case, though.Oct 15 03:26
stevecarrollWhat was all that about music and permssion?Oct 15 03:27
schestowitzI assumed you were from the Mac NGsOct 15 03:27
schestowitzLike SandmanOct 15 03:27
stevecarrollI post to csma... Oct 15 03:27
schestowitzWhich apparently he was pissing off as well. But generally there are many toxic people in USENET.Oct 15 03:27
schestowitzexcept help groupsOct 15 03:27
stevecarrollI know... been on it for a dozen years or so;)Oct 15 03:27
schestowitzit got worse over timeOct 15 03:28
stevecarrollhaven't used IRC in awhile, tnhough.Oct 15 03:28
schestowitzBut the help groups mostly diedOct 15 03:28
stevecarrollSeems like IRC is still kickingOct 15 03:28
schestowitzI ised IRC when I was 13 or so... came back to it 14 years laterOct 15 03:28
stevecarrollYeah... it's probably been that lone for me.Oct 15 03:28
schestowitzIRC is less centralised than what otherwise is made availableOct 15 03:28
DaemonFCI think I started with Mirc around 1997/98Oct 15 03:29
schestowitzpeople not use platforms like FBOct 15 03:29
stevecarrollFB... ehOct 15 03:29
schestowitzDaemonFC: earlier than that for someOct 15 03:29
schestowitzFor me it was a crappier client in win 3.11 IIRCOct 15 03:29
stevecarrollSo does Tim frequent this channel?Oct 15 03:30
Diablo-D3http://i.cdn.turner.com/trutv/trutv.com/graphics/blog/gallery/apple/steve-jobs.jpgOct 15 03:30
schestowitzyes, he's asleep now thoughOct 15 03:30
Diablo-D3:3Oct 15 03:30
schestowitzWas here until an hour agoOct 15 03:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Are you a religious man?Oct 15 03:30
stevecarrollNow how would you know that? ;)Oct 15 03:30
stevecarrollYou have a cam on him? ;)Oct 15 03:30
schestowitzDiablo-D3: he wishes...Oct 15 03:31
schestowitzApple hasn't had much impact on the worldOct 15 03:31
schestowitzJust the world's 1%Oct 15 03:31
schestowitz60 million people maybeOct 15 03:32
schestowitzWith more money than senseOct 15 03:32
DaemonFCMirc used to have a Windows 3.1 versionOct 15 03:32
schestowitzJobs is a silly distractionOct 15 03:32
DaemonFCthey didn't drop that one until around 2002 I thinkOct 15 03:32
schestowitzand his worshippers like to troll opposing forumsOct 15 03:32
stevecarrollI've seen.Oct 15 03:32
Guest81797The death of Steve Jobs is a transition. Oct 15 03:32
schestowitzthat's like me going tinto Mac forums to write posts praising Richard StallmanOct 15 03:32
schestowitzit's not appropriate to these forumsOct 15 03:33
stevecarrollI agree.Oct 15 03:33
Guest81797Apple can no longer claim that the company is run by some brilliant tech founder.Oct 15 03:33
schestowitzJusta  patent bullyOct 15 03:33
Guest81797Now all they have is some administrator from Alabama. Oct 15 03:33
schestowitza YobOct 15 03:33
stevecarrollA good marketeerOct 15 03:33
schestowitzGuest81797 says Cook was behind the utsourcing of productionOct 15 03:34
stevecarrollhe was.Oct 15 03:34
schestowitzWhch would compute.. he was CFOOct 15 03:34
schestowitzObsessed with moneyOct 15 03:34
schestowitzLike BallmerOct 15 03:34
Guest81797Wikipedia says so.Oct 15 03:34
schestowitzNot productsOct 15 03:34
schestowitzNor innovaitonOct 15 03:34
schestowitzVery willing to sue Palm at one stageOct 15 03:34
schestowitzSame as Ballmer vs LinuxOct 15 03:34
stevecarrollI lived in Cupertino when Jobs was starting Apple.Oct 15 03:34
schestowitzmoney, money, money, no matter the meansOct 15 03:34
stevecarrollMy Bor-inlaw dated his sisterOct 15 03:34
stevecarrollBrother in lawOct 15 03:35
schestowitzMaybe Apple will get itself Another BallmerOct 15 03:35
schestowitzstevecarroll: Coo's?Oct 15 03:35
DaemonFCthis Tim Cook has been keeping his head downOct 15 03:35
schestowitzCook'sOct 15 03:35
Guest81797Apple spent billions on Job's image and pretended that the money was benefiting a scientist.  Now what will they pretend?Oct 15 03:35
stevecarrollCook is a head down kinda guyOct 15 03:35
schestowitzhis appearance in the hypePhone4Ass event was underwhelming, I read..Oct 15 03:36
schestowitzno auraOct 15 03:36
schestowitzAND...Oct 15 03:36
stevecarrollNot reallyOct 15 03:36
Diablo-D3well noOct 15 03:36
schestowitzJobs is a brandOct 15 03:36
Diablo-D3that sorta backfiredOct 15 03:36
schestowitzLike I called him all alongOct 15 03:36
schestowitzSicne the 80sOct 15 03:36
Diablo-D3everyone was like YAY IPHONE 5Oct 15 03:36
schestowitzEven Woz is a bit of a brandOct 15 03:36
Diablo-D3and we got the 4.5 instead.Oct 15 03:36
schestowitzthe Woz brandOct 15 03:37
Diablo-D3the four and a half.Oct 15 03:37
stevecarrollJobs was an egomaniac of sortsOct 15 03:37
schestowitzGats is a brandOct 15 03:37
schestowitzGates is a brand he sank BILLIONS intoOct 15 03:37
schestowitzPR people paid $1/day by Gates FundiesOct 15 03:37
schestowitzto promote his brandOct 15 03:37
Guest81797Yes, Apple is pushing public appearances of Woz now.Oct 15 03:37
schestowitzCook has no brandOct 15 03:37
schestowitz"Cook will appear"Oct 15 03:37
schestowitzPeople sighOct 15 03:37
schestowitz"Who's cook? Why should I listen?"Oct 15 03:37
Guest81797Perhaps Woz will start to get a little credit he deserved.Oct 15 03:37
Guest81797and a lot he does notOct 15 03:38
stevecarrollWoz didn't like the limelight before... he may nowOct 15 03:38
Diablo-D3woz has his own shitOct 15 03:38
Diablo-D3I actually like wozOct 15 03:38
schestowitzhe dissed apple products at timesOct 15 03:38
Guest81797Woz is a software patent lunatic Oct 15 03:38
schestowitzWhich I thought was funnyOct 15 03:38
Diablo-D3hes like "steve jobs? oh yeah, the guy who has an apple employee number greater than mine."Oct 15 03:38
Diablo-D3cant beat #1.Oct 15 03:38
schestowitzit's like he turned against the religion he helped createOct 15 03:38
Diablo-D3ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED: Low Apple Employee NumberOct 15 03:39
Guest81797He's back though.Oct 15 03:39
stevecarrollHe felt burned by it...Oct 15 03:39
Diablo-D3well, burned out by itOct 15 03:39
stevecarrollBurned by Jobs, really.Oct 15 03:39
Diablo-D3I like the old Jobs thoughOct 15 03:39
schestowitzthey cremated jobs?Oct 15 03:39
Guest81797I saw pictures of him standing in line to by a new spyPhone - obviously staged.Oct 15 03:39
Diablo-D3LSD taking hippy, beard, long hair, working out of a garageOct 15 03:39
Diablo-D3problem is, Steve changedOct 15 03:39
stevecarrollJobs was ALWAYS egocentricOct 15 03:40
Diablo-D3he let the fame change himOct 15 03:40
Diablo-D3stevecarroll: who isnt?Oct 15 03:40
DaemonFChttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAwMTMOct 15 03:40
stevecarrollNO, he was that way before the faemOct 15 03:40
Diablo-D3I am. Roy is.Oct 15 03:40
Diablo-D3RMS is.Oct 15 03:40
Diablo-D3being egocentric isnt a sinOct 15 03:40
Diablo-D3but Steve Jobs changedOct 15 03:40
DaemonFChttps://adjamblog.wordpress.com/2011/10/15/rekonq-0-8-stable/Oct 15 03:40
stevecarrollHe always thought he was smarter than everyone else around him...Oct 15 03:40
Diablo-D3stevecarroll: yeah see, I never got thatOct 15 03:40
Diablo-D3why didnt he just become like meOct 15 03:40
schestowitzDiablo-D3: w00tOct 15 03:40
Diablo-D3I _am_ smarter than everyone else here.Oct 15 03:40
stevecarrollHe could be brilliant at times...Oct 15 03:40
Diablo-D3Who merely think it when you can BE it.Oct 15 03:41
stevecarrollBut he couldn't temper it.Oct 15 03:41
Diablo-D3*WhyOct 15 03:41
Diablo-D3stevecarroll: exactlyOct 15 03:41
Diablo-D3he didnt have nearly enough lazy.Oct 15 03:41
Diablo-D3Lazy is a motherfucking superpower.Oct 15 03:42
stevecarrollHe had no lazyOct 15 03:42
Diablo-D3exactlyOct 15 03:42
Diablo-D3how do you get shit done if you're never lazy.Oct 15 03:42
stevecarrollGuy was wound kinda tight when he was youngOct 15 03:42
Diablo-D3now Woz, Woz knows lazy.Oct 15 03:43
stevecarrollLOL~Oct 15 03:43
Diablo-D3lazy is a good thingOct 15 03:44
Diablo-D3woz has it all figured outOct 15 03:44
Diablo-D3he made his money at appleOct 15 03:44
Diablo-D3now he has enough to do whatever he wants for the rest of his lifeOct 15 03:44
stevecarrollOne thing people don;'t undertstand about jobs... he wasn't in it for the money, at least, not after he got snotty rich quikcly.Oct 15 03:45
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Diablo-D3depends how you define "in it for the money"Oct 15 03:45
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Diablo-D3he wanted a perfect productOct 15 03:45
stevecarrollNot with JobsOct 15 03:45
stevecarrollHe personally did not give a fuck about the moneyOct 15 03:45
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Diablo-D3not in thst sense, noOct 15 03:46
Diablo-D3once he had enough, who caresOct 15 03:46
stevecarrollOnly as far as the shareholders were concerned and that was only to be the "best" CEOOct 15 03:46
Guest81797heh, more mass hysteria with a copywrong twist http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/14/technology/dispute-over-apple-image-shows-internets-reach.html?hpwOct 15 03:46
Diablo-D3I just dont get why he didnt just make the perfect phoneOct 15 03:46
Diablo-D3or the perfect laptopOct 15 03:47
Diablo-D3something went wrong somewhere and Im not sure whatOct 15 03:47
stevecarrollWhat is such a thing?Oct 15 03:47
Diablo-D3stevecarroll: well it works like thisOct 15 03:47
stevecarrollIt's like the perfect ice cream flavorOct 15 03:47
Diablo-D3I am impossibly hard to impressOct 15 03:47
Diablo-D3generally, it can not be doneOct 15 03:47
stevecarrollThat's my pointOct 15 03:47
Diablo-D3so, if steve jobs wanted to make a perfect somethingOct 15 03:47
Diablo-D3all he had to do was impress me.Oct 15 03:47
stevecarrollHe impressed himself.Oct 15 03:47
Diablo-D3nothing hes made in the past 25 years has been able to do so.Oct 15 03:47
stevecarrollThat's how he created perfectOct 15 03:47
stevecarrollSame way everyone else does it.Oct 15 03:48
Diablo-D3now likeOct 15 03:48
Diablo-D3apple IIs?Oct 15 03:48
Diablo-D3impressive as fuckOct 15 03:48
stevecarrollI had a IIe  (with 80 col card)Oct 15 03:48
stevecarrollI was impressed at the time;)Oct 15 03:48
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Diablo-D3Im still impressed with them reallyOct 15 03:48
Diablo-D3it had a real sense of workmanship to itOct 15 03:49
stevecarrollIt had slots up the ass is what it hadOct 15 03:49
Diablo-D3hehOct 15 03:50
DaemonFChttp://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Microsoft-announces-official-SQL-Server-driver-for-Linux-1361649.htmlOct 15 03:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Floating it's a bit scary.Oct 15 03:50
sosmanWell looks like galaxy 10.1 in Oz stillOct 15 03:50
stevecarrollI still have an Atari 1040 down in the studio ;)Oct 15 03:50
sosmanstill no goOct 15 03:51
DaemonFChttp://www.h-online.com/open/features/Is-Android-s-bane-a-boon-for-Free-Software-1358433.htmlOct 15 03:52
Diablo-D3but back when woz, burrell smith, andy hertzfeld, etc etcOct 15 03:52
Diablo-D3that was a company I would have liked to work forOct 15 03:52
stevecarrollI think I worked at Jack in the Box in Mt. View around then;)Oct 15 03:54
Diablo-D3I dunno, for years Ive tried to figure out where steve changedOct 15 03:54
stevecarrollI then went to work at a job shop that made precision valves an the lead machinist had an Apple IIOct 15 03:55
Diablo-D3a lot of people say post-next, and thats wronOct 15 03:55
Diablo-D3its pre-firingOct 15 03:55
stevecarrollHe showed my Castle Wolfenstein... I was blown away for some reasonOct 15 03:55
Diablo-D3its post lisaOct 15 03:55
Diablo-D3its kinda clear he started changing when the mac killed lisaOct 15 03:55
Diablo-D3but Im not sure when he finally changedOct 15 03:56
Diablo-D3there just isnt enough steve jobs storiesOct 15 03:56
stevecarrollI've heard enough of them...Oct 15 03:56
*Diablo-D3 shrugsOct 15 03:56
Diablo-D3I find them entertainingOct 15 03:56
Diablo-D3no other company has stories like thoseOct 15 03:56
stevecarrollThere are a lot of lies out there about him, though.Oct 15 03:57
Diablo-D3well not reallyOct 15 03:57
Diablo-D3like idiots say he invented the mouseOct 15 03:57
stevecarrollHe didn'tOct 15 03:57
Diablo-D3its not a lie, its just an idiot journalist fucked upOct 15 03:57
stevecarrollHe never claimed to eitherOct 15 03:57
Diablo-D3yeah exactlyOct 15 03:57
stevecarrollHe never said he "invented" the stuff they licensed from PARCOct 15 03:58
Diablo-D3exactlyOct 15 03:58
Diablo-D3steve jobs had one really good skillOct 15 03:58
Diablo-D3he knew a good idea when he saw itOct 15 03:58
Diablo-D3I mean, even Roy goes ZOMG HE STOLE IDEASOct 15 03:58
stevecarrollHe also knew how to talk people into thingsOct 15 03:58
Diablo-D3you cant steal an ideaOct 15 03:58
Diablo-D3you cant own one to begin withOct 15 03:59
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DaemonFCschestowitz: After a bunch of people complained, the local police dropped their $700,000 request for new police carsOct 15 04:10
DaemonFCI figured they would get whatever they wanted like usual while everything else sufferedOct 15 04:11
DaemonFCit must really be getting badOct 15 04:11
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schestowitz[03:58] <Diablo-D3> I mean, even Roy goes ZOMG HE STOLE IDEASOct 15 04:17
schestowitznopeOct 15 04:17
schestowitzi don'y say stealOct 15 04:17
DaemonFCApple usually makes fun of Microsoft for "copying them"Oct 15 04:33
schestowitzthey both copyOct 15 04:37
schestowitz!Google copying kdeOct 15 04:37
schestowitz!google copying kdeOct 15 04:37
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schestowitz!google copying kdeOct 15 04:39
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schestowitz!google apple copying kdeOct 15 04:44
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Copy and Paste Inconsistent in KDE [Archive] - The macosxhints Forums | http://hintsforums.macworld.com/archive/index.php/t-33267.htmlOct 15 04:44
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schestowitz!google windows copying kdeOct 15 04:45
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TechrightsBot-tr[3] - X Windows Copy-Paste mini HOWTO - Michael C. Toren | http://michael.toren.net/mirrors/doc/X-copy%2Bpaste.txtOct 15 04:45
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schestowitzsee [2]Oct 15 04:45
DaemonFCcopyrighting and patenting of GUI should never be allowedOct 15 04:50
DaemonFCMicrosoft claims the Windows 7 GUI is completely copyrightedOct 15 04:50
DaemonFCI don't think they can do that can they?Oct 15 04:50
DaemonFConly their logos and trademarks and suchOct 15 04:50
schestowitzApple begs to differOct 15 05:23
schestowitzSee some of its GUI and design patentsOct 15 05:23
schestowitzThose were tested in UK courts recemtlyOct 15 05:23
schestowitzand Samsung gets sued over this by AppleOct 15 05:23
DaemonFCdidn't Apple try that against Microsoft and lose in the US?Oct 15 05:24
schestowitzat vnc --Oct 15 05:26
schestowitzany way of makign double speed the default?Oct 15 05:26
schestowitzor do I just need to use shortcut keys?Oct 15 05:27
schestowitzvlcOct 15 05:27
schestowitztypoOct 15 05:27
DaemonFCI stopped using VLC a while backOct 15 05:28
DaemonFCit has serious problems Oct 15 05:28
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DaemonFChttp://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Microsoft-report-Users-responsible-for-half-of-all-infections-1360430.htmlOct 15 05:42
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DaemonFCMicrosoft blames usersOct 15 05:43
DaemonFC"It was the users fault for plugging in removable storage, not Windows for automatically running things off of it"Oct 15 05:43
DaemonFC:)Oct 15 05:43
schestowitz!google microsoft blames usersOct 15 05:55
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schestowitz!google microsoft blames developersOct 15 05:56
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schestowitzvlc has the nice repeat sub-trackOct 15 05:57
schestowitzgraphicalOct 15 05:57
schestowitzI used to do that with mplayer from the CLIOct 15 05:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] It begins! :-) http://is.gd/r0uGjH #ubuntu #locoteamsOct 15 06:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @novelpublicity The Self-Published Author Daily is out! bit.ly/hdmRJW !selfPubOct 15 07:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Wall Street Journal Europe Doles Out Cash And Favors To Inflate Circulation Numbers http://goo.gl/pOaY6 #WSJ #fraudOct 15 09:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Confused Indian Anti-Piracy Group Asks Us To Remove Article It Doesn't Like From Some Other Blog http://goo.gl/inlu8Oct 15 09:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @jxself Yet another reason to only use motherboards supported by !coreboot: http://www.fsf.org/sb !gnu !linux !fs !floss !freedomOct 15 11:12
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/623955Oct 15 13:28
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schestowitz_Goblin: what times can record today?Oct 15 13:33
schestowitzhttp://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/241936/apache_asserts_openoffice_stewardship.htmlOct 15 13:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @Vrijschrift @FFII European Parliament Legal Services opinion on #ACTA is ready... and it is secret! >>ah, democracy...Oct 15 13:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "Whose speech is free of p3's" - http://bit.ly/ndwIyP fascinating case of ancient Egyptian prescriptivism #linguisticsOct 15 14:04
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schestowitzFifteen years of #KDE http://blog.cornelius-schumacher.de/2011/10/fifteen-years-of-kde.html happy birthdayOct 15 14:04
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schestowitzWon't fall [IMG] https://joindiaspora.com/posts/623655Oct 15 14:04
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schestowitzSabayon 7 vs. Ubuntu 11.10 Performance http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_sabayon_7&num=1Oct 15 14:04
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84595640Oct 15 14:05
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Saturday, 15-Oct-11 12:44:35 UTC - Identi.ca: An Ubuntu Alternative -or- An Alternative Ubuntu http://is.gd/dqXJbl giving #kde a goOct 15 14:05
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84595806Oct 15 14:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] High Court “Reserves Judgment” at #Newzbin2 Blocking Hearing - http://bit.ly/r4StjM now, this is interesting #copyrightOct 15 14:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #au Govt proposes “streamlined” #piracy controls - http://bit.ly/qMMmxW to pursue "alleged" infringers: who cares about due process?Oct 15 14:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @glynmoody RT @Vrijschrift @FFII European Parliament Legal Services opinion on #ACTA is ready... and it is secret! >>ah, democracy...Oct 15 14:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] black tea with lots of sugar and lemon - and the hangover is no more! ah, tea, what would I ever do without you!Oct 15 14:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why Stallman is right about Steve Jobs http://is.gd/JvCn4k #fsfOct 15 14:47
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schestowitzBlender 2.60 is Out http://www.blender.org/development/release-logs/blender-260/ #blender3dOct 15 15:20
schestowitz#KWin on #Pandaboard http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2011/10/kwin-on-pandaboard/ happy hackingOct 15 15:20
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schestowitz"75 Per Cent Of Stock Exchanges Worldwide Run On Linux" http://www.efytimes.com/e1/creativenews.asp?edid=71273 #linuxOct 15 15:21
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84586055Oct 15 15:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The European Parliament services denied the existence of #ACTA documents four times - http://bit.ly/rd8iiG nothing to hide, of courseOct 15 15:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #identica works only randomly these days. Sometimes it works, but equally often it fails. The site/service still seems broken.Oct 15 15:25
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schestowitzBlechOct 15 15:35
schestowitzMac Asay helps Embrace and Extand http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/14/even_microsoft_loves_hadoop/Oct 15 15:35
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schestowitzamarsh04: it's a featureOct 15 15:44
schestowitzBut not for usOct 15 15:44
amarsh04exactlyOct 15 15:44
schestowitz#KDE #Rekonq Browser Picks Up Many Features http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAwMTM +1+Oct 15 15:47
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schestowitzEmbrace and extand Oct 15 16:26
schestowitzhttp://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/microsoft-expands-data-platform-with-sql-server-2012-new-investments-for-managing-any-data-any-size-anywhere-131598193.htmlOct 15 16:26
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schestowitzhttp://www.hortonworks.com/the-whys-behind-the-microsoft-and-hortonworks-partnership/Oct 15 16:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Why’s Behind the Microsoft and Hortonworks Partnership | Hortonworks .::. Size~: 23.39 KBOct 15 16:26
schestowitzMicrosoft Linux, with Microsoft tax and strongsOct 15 16:26
schestowitz*StringsOct 15 16:26
schestowitzSo much Microsoft fawning... Monsanto too: http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2011/10/14/451-caos-links-2011-10-14/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+451opensource+%28451+Open+Source+Blog%29Oct 15 16:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 451 CAOS Theory » 451 CAOS Links 2011.10.14 .::. Size~: 41.46 KBOct 15 16:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Activist Post: Starting a Fire -- An Essential #Survival Skill #bushcraft http://goo.gl/dDCOHOct 15 16:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Order of the Illuminati: Its Origins Its Methods and Its Influence on the World Events|The Vigilant Citizen #xfiles http://goo.gl/LjJKYOct 15 17:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] He meant rueing.Oct 15 17:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I appear to be having problems denting anything with a URL in it.Oct 15 17:24
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQCzOcS_Udw&feature=digest_refresh_satOct 15 17:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/feedarticle/9896485 reported as fact... standards in the media are poor. Plus there are a lot of questions hereOct 15 17:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Man charged over injured police dog |                 UK news |         The Guardian .::. Size~: 53.7 KBOct 15 17:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 15/10/2011: Fifteen Year Anniversary for KDE, Apache Reassures Commitment to OpenOffice.org http://is.gd/ofLwpTOct 15 17:45
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schestowitz_Goblin: back in 2 hoursOct 15 17:58
exiffwhy does this channel show its messages in my other channels?Oct 15 17:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Tuinslak When you're back we will need to have a really good talk. All is fixed temporarily for now. /cc @Waza_BeOct 15 18:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I used to live in Coppull.Oct 15 18:12
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schestowitzhttp://joindiaspora.com/posts/624365Oct 15 19:17
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schestowitz"Nice. Let's hope M$ doesn't send their "negotiator$" to "change their mind"... "Oct 15 19:17
schestowitz_Goblin: back, ready soon if you areOct 15 19:18
koolhead17hello allOct 15 19:31
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSmaniac/statuses/125223450506833920Oct 15 19:34
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSmaniac: This goes to all the APPLE FANBOIS, ppl who lv JAILS ♻ @schestowitz: Why Stallman is right about Steve Jobs http://t.co/wpMBegU7 #fsfOct 15 19:34
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/621718Oct 15 20:45
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84599083Oct 15 20:48
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Saturday, 15-Oct-11 19:28:39 UTC - Identi.ca: The Fall of Quanta and Microsoft Florian (Two-Faced Lobbyist) http://is.gd/wTFDDz #swpats #linux #androidOct 15 20:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Europe Gets Soft on Patents http://ur1.ca/5enm5 #eu #swpatsOct 15 20:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] OpenSUSE Misuses or Overuses the Word Open http://ur1.ca/5enmd #suse #opensuseOct 15 20:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @AnonyOps: 82 countries have taken to the streets. Nearly 1000 cities. Amazing.Oct 15 20:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Europe Gets Soft on Patents | Techrights .::. Size~: 86.53 KBOct 15 20:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: OpenSUSE Misuses or Overuses the Word Open | Techrights .::. Size~: 85.82 KBOct 15 20:50
schestowitzBig jump [IMG] http://ur1.ca/5enleOct 15 20:51
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84599083Oct 15 20:51
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Saturday, 15-Oct-11 19:28:39 UTC - Identi.ca: The Fall of Quanta and Microsoft Florian (Two-Faced Lobbyist) http://is.gd/wTFDDz #swpats #linux #androidOct 15 20:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] abp Michalik - "albo krzyż, albo symbolika nienawiści" ur1.ca/5enn6 #ciemnogród !polskaOct 15 20:52
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/ml2mst/status/125295302138806273?iid=am-37327486213187077031984986&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Oct 15 20:52
TechrightsBot-trNot a tweet?Oct 15 20:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @AJELive: The latest news, video & images from the #OccupyRome protests http://t.co/8Gzj3KoHOct 15 20:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Worst Kept Secret Now Confirmed: Government Was Very Involved Helping RIAA/MPAA Negotiate Six Strikes http://identi.ca/url/54114841Oct 15 20:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Worst Kept Secret Now Confirmed: Government Was Very Involved Helping RIAA/MPAA Negotiate Six Strikes | Techdirt .::. Size~: 159.11 KBOct 15 20:57
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schestowitzWhat bollox. http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/gigaom/articles/mobile_android_is_the_new_linux__e2_80_94_and_thats_not_a_good_thing.html?section=magazines_fortuneOct 15 21:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Android is the new Linux — and that’s not a good thing .::. Size~: 49.54 KBOct 15 21:05
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schestowitzit overstates concernsOct 15 21:05
schestowitzand ignores the fact that Android grew bigOct 15 21:05
schestowitzWhich is GOOD for LinuxOct 15 21:05
DaemonFCThere's ReplicantOct 15 21:06
DaemonFCthat's free software onlyOct 15 21:06
DaemonFCor Cyanogenmod, which adds a bunch of features and gets rid of some of Google's proprietary crapOct 15 21:06
DaemonFCbut not all of itOct 15 21:06
DaemonFCI've considered buying a Nook now that Cyanogenmod is compatibleOct 15 21:07
DaemonFCheavily subsidized ebook reader modded to run an enhanced version of AndroidOct 15 21:07
DaemonFCthat could be nice :)Oct 15 21:07
schestowitzhttp://forwardthinking.pcmag.com/linux-unix/289134-remembering-dennis-ritchie-software-pioneerOct 15 21:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Remembering Dennis Ritchie: Software Pioneer .::. Size~: 69.03 KBOct 15 21:09
cubezzzback on icewm, at least on one boxOct 15 21:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is grmpyoldman with 70 dents!Oct 15 21:10
cubezzzI see PCMag has a digitial subscription nowOct 15 21:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Puppy Linux 5.2 is Out http://is.gd/uhzNBC #ubuntu #gnu #linux #puppylinuxOct 15 21:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Puppy Linux 5.2 Wary proves big operating systems come in small packages - Liliputing .::. Size~: 34.36 KBOct 15 21:16
cubezzz$1.50 per issueOct 15 21:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Without Dennis Ritchie, there would be no Jobs http://is.gd/b6n1uQ #unixOct 15 21:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Occupy London takes city | Daily Mail http://t.co/QxvQJtkdOct 15 21:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Without Dennis Ritchie, there would be no Jobs | ZDNet .::. Size~: 134.54 KBOct 15 21:20
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MinceRit isn't nice to soil dmr's legacy like that :>Oct 15 21:21
cubezzzmaybe he means jobs as in workOct 15 21:22
MinceRthatOct 15 21:22
MinceRthat's not capitalizedOct 15 21:22
cubezzzrightOct 15 21:22
schestowitzthe headline is mostly lowercaseOct 15 21:22
cubezzzeveryone builds off the work of the others who came before themOct 15 21:23
cubezzzbut it's good to remember dmrOct 15 21:24
schestowitzexcept appleOct 15 21:24
cubezzzno one remembers tops-20 but it was the first OS with tcp/ipOct 15 21:25
MinceRapple doesn't build off the work of others so much as steals them and ruins themOct 15 21:26
cubezzzyou can still run FreeBSDOct 15 21:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Militares avisam Governo que estão com a população contra a austeridade | Económico #pt #collapse http://goo.gl/dAQQyOct 15 21:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] “Firefox to dump XUL tech in !Android apps”: http://bit.ly/pLKPFuOct 15 21:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Militares avisam Governo que estão com a população contra a austeridade |  Económico .::. Size~: 71.43 KBOct 15 21:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Firefox to dump XUL tech in Android apps - AfterDawn .::. Size~: 59.23 KBOct 15 21:32
cubezzzwe are living in a software renaissanceOct 15 21:33
cubezzzfoss operating systems a-plentyOct 15 21:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Might get arrested at an #OccupyWallStreet protest this weekend? Here's a guide to protect your cell phone: https://eff.org/r.1DR #OWSOct 15 21:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cell Phone Guide for Occupy Wall Street Protesters (and Everyone Else) | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 30.29 KBOct 15 21:34
koolhead17;-)Oct 15 21:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !operafans | 5 observations from Opera Software’s Up North Web conference http://goo.gl/xtm5DOct 15 21:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Five observations from Opera Software’s Up North Web conference - Android app article - Brad Spirrison  | Appolicious ™ Android App Directory .::. Size~: 31.16 KBOct 15 21:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Press TV Taken off air in #UK – War for Freedom of Speech Now On | Sovereign Independent #freespeech #nwo http://goo.gl/76o4ZOct 15 21:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Press TV Taken off air in UK – War for Freedom of Speech Now On | Sovereign Independent .::. Size~: 58.03 KBOct 15 21:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] now this was just dumb: ur1.ca/5eobs - man finds a vulnerability, reports it, get's slammed with a lawsuit.Oct 15 21:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] More $200 #Linux Tablets http://ur1.ca/5eogf #androidOct 15 22:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Latest 'Cruz' Honeycomb tablets start at $200 - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 57.31 KBOct 15 22:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Protesters plan to 'Occupy' London, Rome, Auckland http://is.gd/kiIkO6 "...Frankfurt and, of course, New York."Oct 15 22:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Global protest aims to 'Occupy' major cities - TODAY News - TODAY.com .::. Size~: 78.3 KBOct 15 22:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Occupy Wall Street protesters taking over Times Square http://identi.ca/url/54135641Oct 15 22:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Occupy Wall Street protesters taking over Times Square – Boing Boing .::. Size~: 22.93 KBOct 15 22:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google and Samsung reschedule Android "Ice Cream Sandwich" event http://is.gd/iOeu8K despite MSFT lobbyists claiming driftOct 15 22:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LibreOffice To Go Online, Will Run On Android http://ur1.ca/5eory the braoder support, the betterOct 15 22:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google and Samsung reschedule Android "Ice Cream Sandwich" event - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 42.29 KBOct 15 22:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LibreOffice To Go Online, Will Run On Android | Muktware .::. Size~: 32.54 KBOct 15 22:41
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84600402Oct 15 22:41
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Saturday, 15-Oct-11 21:38:08 UTC - Identi.ca: Paraguay aims to switch to open source software http://is.gd/3ASRpO More on this important newsOct 15 22:42
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DaemonFCI love it when dpkg has a stroke halfway into installing something and doesn't release any of its locksOct 15 22:42
schestowitzyeahOct 15 22:50
schestowitzhappened to meOct 15 22:50
schestowitzit's hard to get around itOct 15 22:50
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84600438Oct 15 22:50
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Saturday, 15-Oct-11 21:45:12 UTC - Identi.ca: Is Android's bane a boon for Free Software? http://is.gd/9eEgcl  interesting thoughts from @glynmoodyOct 15 22:50
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schestowitzhttp://www.thestreet.com/story/11276270/1/actuate-and-redmonk-business-intelligence-video-series-declares-use-data-visualization-for-discovery.htmlOct 15 22:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Actuate And RedMonk Business Intelligence Video Series Declares: Use Data Visualization For Discovery - TheStreet .::. Size~: 85.47 KBOct 15 22:52
schestowitzprobably paid for talking points by some companyOct 15 22:52
schestowitzMS proxy gets dosh http://bostinnovation.com/2011/10/13/black-duck-software-raise-12m-in-funding-led-by-split-rock-partners/Oct 15 22:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Black Duck Software Raises $12M in Funding Led by Split Rock Partners | Bostinnovation: Boston Start-ups, Innovation and News Blog .::. Size~: 32.64 KBOct 15 22:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Oh, dear. CNET is still using Molly Wood to troll fanboys? What is this, Faux 'news' or a tabloid?Oct 15 22:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Google Kills Open Source Code Search, Plus Kills Buzz http://ur1.ca/5eoua #privacyOct 15 22:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] http://www.jezra.net/blog/A_trip_to_Lancaster /me writes words #shamelessselfpromotionOct 15 22:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google Kills Open Source Code Search, Plus Kills Buzz | Muktware .::. Size~: 31.76 KBOct 15 22:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jezra.net: A trip to Lancaster .::. Size~: 33.97 KBOct 15 22:54
DaemonFCChrome now bugs you to make a google account every time you open itOct 15 23:02
schestowitzproof?Oct 15 23:03
schestowitzscreenshot?Oct 15 23:03
DaemonFChttp://img441.imageshack.us/img441/3482/snapshot1hm.pngOct 15 23:06
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting image/png typeOct 15 23:06
DaemonFCif you click skip setup for now, it opens this page again every time you start ChromeOct 15 23:06
DaemonFCuntil you sign upOct 15 23:06
DaemonFCuntil you do, it refuses to simply open to the speed dialOct 15 23:07
MinceRwhat about chromium?Oct 15 23:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] I slept for 13 hours last night. Haven't done that for a while. Also haven't felt this refreshed for a while. Winner!Oct 15 23:09
DaemonFCdon't knowOct 15 23:09
DaemonFCthe latest stable packaged is 14. somethingOct 15 23:10
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schestowitzI need proof thoughOct 15 23:19
schestowitzhttp://money.cnn.com/2011/10/14/technology/google_buzz_shut_down/?source=cnn_binOct 15 23:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google kills off Buzz, its ill-fated social network - Oct. 14, 2011 .::. Size~: 40.56 KBOct 15 23:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #rekonq has a new release. Works like Chrome, does not have the antifeaures, also much lighter than FirefoxOct 15 23:34
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84600768Oct 15 23:35
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Saturday, 15-Oct-11 22:28:20 UTC - Identi.ca: #Google starts nagging its users to sign up with their identity if they want to use #chrome http://is.gd/bbI3es #privacyOct 15 23:35
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schestowitzDiablo-D3: http://identi.ca/notice/84600768Oct 15 23:47
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Saturday, 15-Oct-11 22:28:20 UTC - Identi.ca: #Google starts nagging its users to sign up with their identity if they want to use #chrome http://is.gd/bbI3es #privacyOct 15 23:47
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Diablo-D3schestowitz: not quite.Oct 15 23:48
Diablo-D3chrome offers something like firefox syncOct 15 23:48
Diablo-D3backs up bookmarks, syncs history/tabs/etcOct 15 23:48
schestowitzhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/oct/14/occupy-wall-street-protesters-zuccotti?intcmp=239Oct 15 23:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Occupy Wall Street protesters claim victory in Zuccotti Park standoff | World news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 100.82 KBOct 15 23:50
schestowitzhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/oct/16/occupy-protests-europe-london-assange?intcmp=239Oct 15 23:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Occupy protests against capitalism spread around world | World news | The Observer .::. Size~: 111.89 KBOct 15 23:50
Diablo-D3I dont like denting the guardian urls, but whatever works in this caseOct 15 23:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] 'Occupy' anti-capitalism protests spread around the world http://identi.ca/url/54150634Oct 15 23:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Occupy protests against capitalism spread around world | World news | The Observer .::. Size~: 111.89 KBOct 15 23:53
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