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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @BarrettBrownLOL: Never forget that #BoA Bank of America colluded with U.S. state in going after #Wikileaks. http://t.co/DyKUD2j5 #An ... | Oct 17 00:06 | |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/ThermalGrass/statuses/125615994981978112 | Oct 17 00:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @ThermalGrass: @schestowitz Police needs criminals, makes them feel important ---- | Oct 17 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan was promoted to Specialist in War Commander. | Oct 17 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | Trained to make clean kills with any weapon, Ryan is a quiet force to be reckoned with. | Oct 17 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | yay! :) | Oct 17 00:13 |
| Kryczek | with any weapon? | Oct 17 00:14 |
| Kryczek | I'd like to see Ryan do a clean kill with a chainsaw | Oct 17 00:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @reality I think you're a little confused about the history of Wikipedia. It was invented in 2011 by Buzz Lightyear to cover up the i ... | Oct 17 00:15 | |
| DaemonFC | Chainsaws are for pansies who can't rip people apart with their bare hands | Oct 17 00:18 |
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| Kryczek | I didn't know hands qualified as "weapons" :p | Oct 17 00:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Got a new Samsung Galaxy S II - loving it, and got my Ubuntu Music and Ubuntu Files apps rocking on there :-) | Oct 17 00:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is http://ur1.ca/5f2h0 with 45 dents! | Oct 17 00:36 | |
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| *DaemonFC` is now known as DaemonFC | Oct 17 00:39 | |
| Brendan_T | Kryczek: trained fighter's fists are considered weapons here so its illegal for them to hit back if their attacked [i think], they just have to grapple them or use a different method | Oct 17 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | kick them in the nuts and pepper spray them | Oct 17 00:41 |
| schestowitz | define "trained fighter'" | Oct 17 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | also works for women and the police | Oct 17 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/technology&id=8394110 | Oct 17 00:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Sesame Street YouTube channel hacked, taken offline after porn surfaces | abc7news.com .::. Size~: 59.72 KB | Oct 17 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | porn on Sesame Street's youtube channel | Oct 17 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Oct 17 00:41 |
| Kryczek | Brendan_T: when you say "here" you mean France? | Oct 17 00:43 |
| Brendan_T | im in australia, im not sure what article you were commenting on | Oct 17 00:43 |
| Kryczek | 00:39 < Brendan_T> Kryczek: trained fighter's fists are considered weapons here | Oct 17 00:44 |
| Kryczek | just looked at your IP but it's a hosting company IP so :) | Oct 17 00:44 |
| Kryczek | anyway good to know | Oct 17 00:44 |
| Kryczek | I didnt know it could even be illegal | Oct 17 00:44 |
| Brendan_T | i didnt realise my ip was exposed ;o. i proxy because the router im using crashes when i connect to irc | Oct 17 00:45 |
| Kryczek | I wasn't judging :) I "proxy" because I connect from different places so it's easier to just let the IRC client run on the proxy | Oct 17 00:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Facebook Sued For Violating Wiretap Laws http://goo.gl/Ri50H | Oct 17 00:56 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/10/16/2050244/microsoft-pays-44-million-to-samsung-and-nokia-for-mango-marketing | Oct 17 01:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft Pays $44 Million To Samsung and Nokia For Mango Marketing - Slashdot .::. Size~: 106.28 KB | Oct 17 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | there's why they paid for Android, Microsoft paid them back more for "marketing" Windows Phone | Oct 17 01:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Just read a comment accusing RMS of causing stagnation in software development by driving out of business all but the biggest companies. :-) | Oct 17 01:23 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: maybe | Oct 17 01:47 |
| schestowitz | "you pay us for 'androoid patent' FUD, we'll pay you too" | Oct 17 01:48 |
| XFaCE | hi all | Oct 17 01:48 |
| schestowitz | and both will pay jono to pimp viata7 ;-) | Oct 17 01:48 |
| jono | schestowitz I pimp what? | Oct 17 01:49 |
| schestowitz | joke :-) | Oct 17 01:49 |
| schestowitz | Vista7 | Oct 17 01:49 |
| XFaCE | jono: You would like to know wouldn't you? ;) | Oct 17 01:49 |
| jono | XFaCE, lol | Oct 17 01:49 |
| jono | :-) | Oct 17 01:49 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: are we cool? | Oct 17 01:50 |
| DaemonFC | jono can tell you Unity is awesome without smiling or giggling | Oct 17 01:50 |
| DaemonFC | that makes him an asset | Oct 17 01:51 |
| jono | :-) | Oct 17 01:51 |
| XFaCE | Aero is the most important innovation in desktop aesthetics! (lips twitch) | Oct 17 01:51 |
| jono | DaemonFC, you tried the new release yet? | Oct 17 01:51 |
| XFaCE | Darn, that is hard | Oct 17 01:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Meet the Guy Who Snitched on Occupy Wall Street to the FBI and NYPD http://identi.ca/url/54515613 | Oct 17 01:52 | |
| DaemonFC | jono: it still crashes a lot and the system tray doesn't work | Oct 17 01:52 |
| DaemonFC | though I think that last bit is still by design | Oct 17 01:52 |
| XFaCE | Jono: Needs moar XFCE | Oct 17 01:53 |
| DaemonFC | jono: needs to bring back the system tray | Oct 17 01:53 |
| DaemonFC | at first I thought it was some kind of joke | Oct 17 01:53 |
| jono | DaemonFC, last bit is | Oct 17 01:53 |
| DaemonFC | thousands of applications not working right by design | Oct 17 01:53 |
| jono | DaemonFC, hardly thousands | Oct 17 01:54 |
| jono | and most in Ubuntu now have app indicators | Oct 17 01:54 |
| DaemonFC | hundreds? | Oct 17 01:54 |
| DaemonFC | dozens? | Oct 17 01:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL | Oct 17 01:54 |
| jono | we hired a contractor to write most of them | Oct 17 01:54 |
| DaemonFC | jono: then why doesn't the xchat one work right? | Oct 17 01:54 |
| DaemonFC | I want it to close to the tray | Oct 17 01:54 |
| DaemonFC | or whatever you call it | Oct 17 01:54 |
| DaemonFC | not disappear and run in the background | Oct 17 01:55 |
| jono | DaemonFC, it closes to the launcher | Oct 17 01:55 |
| DaemonFC | not start a second copy of I try to activate it from the tray | Oct 17 01:55 |
| DaemonFC | xchat is probably the biggest reason I gave up on Unity | Oct 17 01:55 |
| DaemonFC | lots of muscle memory and such at work | Oct 17 01:56 |
| DaemonFC | and it's the only decent IRC client for GNOME/Unity | Oct 17 01:56 |
| DaemonFC | the system tray gimmicks are why I use KDE or XFCE now | Oct 17 01:57 |
| schestowitz | [01:50] <XFaCE> schestowitz: are we cool? | Oct 17 01:57 |
| schestowitz | You are cool, I'm a geek | Oct 17 01:57 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME Shell has their system tray gimmicks too | Oct 17 01:57 |
| XFaCE | lol | Oct 17 01:57 |
| DaemonFC | they have a system tray there's just no way to make it not autohide | Oct 17 01:58 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz I meant in regards to my slight babbling yesterday | Oct 17 01:58 |
| DaemonFC | which is only marginally less annoying than indicators | Oct 17 01:58 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: I got a "sense" you were annoyed somewhat | Oct 17 01:58 |
| schestowitz | no, just budy today, can't talk much (same next week) | Oct 17 01:58 |
| schestowitz | *busy | Oct 17 01:58 |
| XFaCE | understood | Oct 17 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | mono bacon and the system tray shenanigans | Oct 17 02:02 |
| DaemonFC | jono leads the march in the War on System Trays! | Oct 17 02:02 |
| DaemonFC | WOST for short | Oct 17 02:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Court Orders French Cop-Watching Site Blocked | http://t.co/gaXHDOoS | Oct 17 02:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Missing content type. Ignoring. | Oct 17 02:03 |
| DaemonFC | GUI success, measured by how many people they can confuse by moving things around | Oct 17 02:03 |
| jono | DaemonFC, LOL | Oct 17 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | wheels tend to be round for a reason | Oct 17 02:05 |
| DaemonFC | it turns out if you try to make squares instead, they don't make very good wheels | Oct 17 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | you have something different, but probably not desirable | Oct 17 02:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] how is it not usable?(have a lot of interest in it, knowing shortcomings is always good) | Oct 17 02:35 | |
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| amarsh04 | schestowitz, from a privacy researcher in .au: "Can anyone point to the URL for a Recommendation by the European Commission which calls for the deletion of names and other personal data relating to the parties involved in a judicial case, but also to witnesses, and stipulates that this shall apply to all levels of jurisdiction, whatever the nature of the case being judged?" | Oct 17 03:14 |
| *DaemonFC sends ninjas to kidnap jono and make him bring back the system tray | Oct 17 03:40 | |
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| jono | :-) | Oct 17 03:48 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] actually it'd be GNU/kBSD more likely, perhaps they would've modified it for their own uses as a stopgap 4 #hurd | Oct 17 04:06 | |
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| XFaCE | æ | Oct 17 04:51 |
| XFaCE | TIME | Oct 17 04:53 |
| XFaCE | ping | Oct 17 04:54 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] http://ur1.ca/5f4df #shamelessselfpromotion | Oct 17 05:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] well, at least identi.ca is accepting urls through the XML API again; too bad that shit is still getting shortened | Oct 17 05:16 | |
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| DaemonFC | there's a kitten on the top of my stairs | Oct 17 06:04 |
| DaemonFC | I ended up making a house for him and getting him some food and water | Oct 17 06:04 |
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| MinceR | http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=3822 | Oct 17 07:19 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Amazing Charts Show How 90% Of The Country Has Gotten Shafted Over The Past Years http://ur1.ca/5f5ax #business #wealth | Oct 17 07:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Berners-Lee says Jobs made computing 'usable rather than infuriating' http://ur1.ca/5f5b9 #web #bernerslee #jobs | Oct 17 07:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] România demnă http://ur1.ca/5f5bm #monarchy #romania | Oct 17 07:24 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Berners-Lee says Jobs made computing 'usable rather than infuriating' | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 120.35 KB | Oct 17 07:24 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Istoria Regelui Mihai I http://ur1.ca/5f5cr #romania #monarchy #mihai | Oct 17 07:28 | |
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| MinceR | i didn't know timbl was so clueless | Oct 17 07:30 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: he also said there shouldn't be picture support in web browsers because then there would be porn | Oct 17 07:32 |
| DaemonFC | sounds like Jobs to me :) | Oct 17 07:32 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 17 07:32 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 17 07:32 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: The way he described writing the world wide web on a NeXT sounds a lot like bragging that you got Visual Basic to do something neat | Oct 17 07:37 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 17 07:37 |
| MinceR | at least next had some useful gui ideas, unlike macos | Oct 17 07:37 |
| MinceR | though i'm not sure if they did them first or not | Oct 17 07:38 |
| DaemonFC | wasn't NeXT what Steve Jobs was doing after Mr Sugar Water from Pepsi ousted him from Apple? | Oct 17 07:38 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 17 07:38 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: The FSF is too eager to write things as done off their high priority list | Oct 17 07:39 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: it was | Oct 17 07:39 |
| DaemonFC | The Unarchiver was written in Objective C | Oct 17 07:39 |
| DaemonFC | it has a lot of nastiness going on | Oct 17 07:40 |
| MinceR | and what did the FSF write off their high priority list early in your opinion? | Oct 17 07:40 |
| DaemonFC | not the lest of which is being based on the nonfree RAR source code | Oct 17 07:40 |
| MinceR | oh | Oct 17 07:40 |
| DaemonFC | it only technically supports Linux | Oct 17 07:40 |
| DaemonFC | it depends on gnustep | Oct 17 07:41 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @rms More on how much facebook tracks users http://ur1.ca/5f59s | Oct 17 07:49 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://my.opera.com/portalnews/blog/2011/08/10/anonymous-threatens-to-kill-facebook | Oct 17 07:51 |
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| MinceR | nice | Oct 17 07:51 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: I liked it on Facebook | Oct 17 07:53 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 17 07:53 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 17 07:53 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: I was playing a Facebook game called War Commander for a while today | Oct 17 07:54 |
| DaemonFC | bad ripoff of C&C | Oct 17 07:54 |
| MinceR | bbl, work | Oct 17 07:54 |
| DaemonFC | only you get to pay real money to speed up unit creations | Oct 17 07:54 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Oct 17 07:54 |
| DaemonFC | boo | Oct 17 07:54 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Occupy Occupy Wall Street- From the 1% @eebrah | Oct 17 08:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] ICANN is Taking Over the Olson Time Zone Database http://ur1.ca/5f5vu | Oct 17 08:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Fuck banking! | Oct 17 08:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @jrobertson ... and yes I used to practice a martial art which involved full contact. | Oct 17 08:44 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84619892 http://identi.ca/conversation/84536258#notice-84619892 | Oct 17 08:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FFKP (ffkp)'s status on Monday, 17-Oct-11 06:15:47 UTC - Identi.ca: Thank you! :-D | Oct 17 08:46 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Financial greed and corruption | Oct 17 08:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @Amayi_ "Holy fuck we eat a lot of rice." - ancient Chinese proverb. cc @eebrah @kelzoko | Oct 17 08:53 | |
| MinceR | geekings | Oct 17 08:57 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/633759 | Oct 17 09:09 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Łiii! PiS chce utworzyć Instytut Inkwizycji! :D ur1.ca/5f63r !polska | Oct 17 09:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links – Microsoft Security Failure, Spyware, Pollution and Corruption http://is.gd/Mhie7Q #techrights | Oct 17 09:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] An octopus [IMG] http://ur1.ca/5f66s | Oct 17 09:24 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/634068 | Oct 17 09:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 17 09:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Jean #Sibelius: Complete Works With Opus Number - http://bit.ly/oNz6A7 fantastic music; foul man #spotify | Oct 17 09:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Irreproducible Results - http://bit.ly/n8WoS3 "the reproducibility of an experiment declines over time, almost as if it were fading away" | Oct 17 09:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Russian #search giant #Yandex inks deal to power Samsung TVs and smartphones - http://tnw.co/pCweFo interesting moves | Oct 17 09:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU issues veiled warning on closed e-book standards - http://bit.ly/r3B0sM needs sorting now #openstandards | Oct 17 09:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: EU issues veiled warning on closed e-book standards | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 51.31 KB | Oct 17 09:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Nice I <3 Jamiroquai too! | Oct 17 09:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @eebrah RD: @glynmoody: CutePad Shows Off $62 Tablet at Canton Fair - http://bit.ly/nx9od2 runs #android, of course /cc @nj3ma @kelzO ... | Oct 17 09:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: CutePad Shows Off $62 Tablet at Canton Fair | gizchina.com .::. Size~: 70.7 KB | Oct 17 09:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Sabayon #GNU #Linux 7 in Review http://ur1.ca/5f6cm | Oct 17 09:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Bookbinding in the Digital Age: an interview with Michael Greer - bit.ly/p67YQd lovely piece about slow, analogue pleasures | Oct 17 09:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Science Code Manifesto - http://bit.ly/p68YnD important stuff: please endorse #opensource #openscience | Oct 17 09:58 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84621314 | Oct 17 09:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 17-Oct-11 08:24:35 UTC - Identi.ca: Isle of Open Source 2011 at Villa Bighi http://ur1.ca/5f67e #malta | Oct 17 09:59 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84621350 | Oct 17 09:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 17-Oct-11 08:27:36 UTC - Identi.ca: #Unity much improved in #Ubuntu 11.10 http://ur1.ca/5f683 #linux | Oct 17 09:59 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Speech by Minister of the State Internet Information Office, #China - http://bit.ly/p4Fy24 nothing startlingly new, but interesting | Oct 17 10:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @glynmoody: Science Code Manifesto - http://bit.ly/p68YnD important stuff: please endorse #opensource #openscience | Oct 17 10:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Ayt will do! | Oct 17 10:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Thanks to !Android most of contacts are backed up on GMail. Rebuilding my phonebook won't be that hard! | Oct 17 10:18 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/foremski/google-and-the-mystery-of-being-3/1985 | Oct 17 10:58 |
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| schestowitz | "It’s wonderfully ironic that Mr Schmidt has to answer the Senate’s anti-trust probe of Google when he spent many years at the helm of Novell, complaining to the government about Microsoft’s business practices. " | Oct 17 10:58 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 17 10:59 |
| schestowitz | http://www.crn.com/news/storage/231602243/falconstor-founder-storage-visionary-huai-found-dead-amid-investigation.htm;jsessionid=7X+u4Lx6oF592YEgRTi5IQ**.ecappj01 | Oct 17 11:00 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Removing Obstructions: Last week I was in Paris as a guest of The Document Foundation to speak at their first an... http://wmk.me/p4Tfyv | Oct 17 11:01 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.bucksfreepress.co.uk/news/9279710.Youth_club__devastated__by_break_ins/ | Oct 17 11:06 |
| schestowitz | "Roy Novell," | Oct 17 11:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Loudwater youth club 'devastated' by break-ins (From Bucks Free Press) .::. Size~: 48.1 KB | Oct 17 11:06 |
| schestowitz | Just looking at Novell news today | Oct 17 11:06 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84622414 http://identi.ca/notice/84622426 | Oct 17 11:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 17-Oct-11 09:53:54 UTC - Identi.ca: VAR Guy is keyword-spamming Google News (has been doing that for months) | Oct 17 11:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 17-Oct-11 09:54:59 UTC - Identi.ca: If Google wants to retain high quality results in news, it will need to more properly scan what pages are about. It got gamed. | Oct 17 11:06 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] MT @UKinItaly @LifeinSicily Last days to apply for the temporary position of Assistant Butler in #Rome. bit.ly/oBdBVH @ UK embassy | Oct 17 11:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Fighting Back Against Public Domain Erosion By Growing The #Commons - http://bit.ly/qJvcOj what we can all do #pd #cc | Oct 17 11:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] LibreOffice for mobile - WSJ - http://ur1.ca/5f83t | Oct 17 12:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] BTW - einfachste Methode das Risiko eines Bundestrojaners zu vermeiden: Auf Linux umsteigen. #justsayin | Oct 17 12:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Yeah, right. Because "Oneiric Ocelot" and "Precise Pangolin" are so much better names..... He fails almost as hard by his totalitarian self. | Oct 17 12:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I totally agree. I'd make him release manager in a heartbeat. | Oct 17 12:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Red Hat takes its hat off to Dennis Ritchie - http://ur1.ca/5eps2 | Oct 17 12:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[siltaar/@siltaar] RT @laquadrature [InternationalHeraldTribune] Court Orders French Cop-Watching Site Blocked - http://lqdn.fr/4805 #Streisand !lqdn !wl | Oct 17 12:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Finalization of EU Parliament's Weak #NetNeutrality Resolution - http://bit.ly/pWxZ7c not good enough: must try harder | Oct 17 12:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Google's #opensource search to end - http://bit.ly/nyWh5G another one bites the dust: does it matter? | Oct 17 12:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] With #FreeRadius can I do #EAP-SIM without RAD numbers, and just use #IMSI numbers for #authentication ? #Linux | Oct 17 13:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] That is extremely shortsighted because those are the people putting together (or messing up) your desktop. Even if you just use it. | Oct 17 13:04 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84624009 | Oct 17 13:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 17-Oct-11 11:50:48 UTC - Identi.ca: CNET drags a domestic violence case into "tech" news as though it has anything to do with Linux. Wired did the same. | Oct 17 13:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich: everything you need to know http://is.gd/hnI6jY Linux-based Android 4.0 Arrives Shortly | Oct 17 13:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I bet it doesn't stop you from complaining when stuff breaks. I personally like to be a bit more responsible. | Oct 17 13:13 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/626747 "we need a caption here..." | Oct 17 13:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 17 13:17 |
| schestowitz | What are smiling about, Mr. Assange? :-) | Oct 17 13:17 |
| schestowitz | http://joindiaspora.com/posts/626663 | Oct 17 13:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 17 13:19 |
| schestowitz | "and is very buggy; basically it could be my browser of choice if it wasn't crashing everytime and I tested it on #Fedora & #ArchLinux. " | Oct 17 13:19 |
| MinceR | which one? | Oct 17 13:20 |
| schestowitz | rekonq | Oct 17 13:20 |
| schestowitz | I'll tell him too | Oct 17 13:20 |
| MinceR | ic | Oct 17 13:20 |
| MinceR | it's a pity webkit doesn't support ad blocking well | Oct 17 13:20 |
| MinceR | (can't block items _before_ they're loaded) | Oct 17 13:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @peter_lambert: Free your metadata: musea en bibliotheken zetten collecties op internet — #UGent ( http://ur1.ca ... | Oct 17 13:21 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: is this really a khtml feature? | Oct 17 13:28 |
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| MinceR | dunno | Oct 17 13:29 |
| MinceR | it has to do with the API | Oct 17 13:30 |
| schestowitz | "It sounds to me like GNOME is joining KDE on the road to computing hell...with the very best of intentions. Both teams are trying to add the glitz and polish that Windows and Mac users have come to expect. (I get the impression that GNOME is trying to imitate OS X.) The problem is, both teams are making their once-loved desktop environments bloated, slow, clumsy, and counter-productive." | Oct 17 13:30 |
| MinceR | iirc i linked an article here where they complained about this | Oct 17 13:30 |
| schestowitz | http://www.goodbyemicrosoft.net/news.php?item.676.2 | Oct 17 13:30 |
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| MinceR | (in context of adblock for chrome) | Oct 17 13:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #APBTS - Associação Portuguesa de Bushcraft e Sobrevivência #PT - Para quem gosta da Natureza e Aventura http://ur1.ca/5f8wt | Oct 17 13:33 | |
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| iophk | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1859178 | Oct 17 13:34 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyfs7Jrjrds&NR=1 | Oct 17 13:35 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Video: Arch #Linux with #KDE 4.7 http://ur1.ca/5f8x8 (new) | Oct 17 13:35 | |
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| msb | <schestowitz> "It sounds to me like GNOME is joining KDE on the road to computing hell...Both teams are trying to add the glitz and polish that Windows and Mac users have come to expect..." | Oct 17 13:36 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/634974 | Oct 17 13:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 17 13:36 |
| msb | This is what I've been saying about KDE4. Less functionality for power users, for people who think, and more glitz/bling. | Oct 17 13:36 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/634804 | Oct 17 13:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 17 13:38 |
| msb | KDE used to be the default DE for Linux users. Linux users who think. But KDE4 has disappointed them, and they're trying others, none of which are much better. | Oct 17 13:38 |
| MinceR | XFCE is much better | Oct 17 13:38 |
| msb | KDE4 doesn't support the audio on my 4 year old mobo, so I've been told to get a new one. | Oct 17 13:39 |
| MinceR | a new DE? | Oct 17 13:39 |
| msb | But Linux needs to support old machines -- much older than mine -- because that's all that a lot of the people in the world have. | Oct 17 13:39 |
| msb | DE = Desktop Environment (I think) | Oct 17 13:40 |
| MinceR | yes | Oct 17 13:40 |
| MinceR | and because we shouldn't have to throw out old computers | Oct 17 13:40 |
| msb | MinceR: Does XFCE have 20 virtual desktops, each of which can be selected by one click on a small button with only the name of the desktop. | Oct 17 13:41 |
| msb | These 20 buttons being grouped together in a 10 by 2 rectangle at the bottom of the screen. | Oct 17 13:41 |
| MinceR | not sure about the name of the desktop thing | Oct 17 13:42 |
| MinceR | i have 6*3 desktops | Oct 17 13:42 |
| msb | Even old computers are like the VAX/780s of the past, which ran a whole university. | Oct 17 13:42 |
| MinceR | and a pager widget with schematic view of windows | Oct 17 13:42 |
| msb | Schematic view? | Oct 17 13:42 |
| MinceR | contents aren't drawn, only borders | Oct 17 13:42 |
| msb | Can the pager have the desktop name? | Oct 17 13:43 |
| msb | e.g., Mail, Usenet, Linux, Radio, etc. | Oct 17 13:43 |
| MinceR | yes | Oct 17 13:43 |
| msb | borders of what, exactly? | Oct 17 13:43 |
| MinceR | turning "Show miniature view" results in names being shown instead | Oct 17 13:44 |
| MinceR | borders of windows | Oct 17 13:44 |
| msb | ick -- don't want those window borders | Oct 17 13:44 |
| MinceR | if you turn "Show miniature view" off, you won't have them | Oct 17 13:44 |
| msb | Sounds good. | Oct 17 13:44 |
| msb | How many desktops can you have? | Oct 17 13:44 |
| MinceR | didn't really check as i wanted all the rows of the pager to fit on a slim panel | Oct 17 13:45 |
| MinceR | so i have 18 workspaces now | Oct 17 13:45 |
| msb | Can I have a panel at the bottom with the desktop-pager and a few app icons and those indicators that show when certain apps are running and a nice configurable clock? | Oct 17 13:46 |
| MinceR | "app icons" as in launchers and "indicators" as in system tray? | Oct 17 13:47 |
| msb | And a panel at the top with the taskbar? | Oct 17 13:47 |
| msb | Yup | Oct 17 13:47 |
| MinceR | then ye | Oct 17 13:47 |
| MinceR | s | Oct 17 13:47 |
| msb | Sounds good! I'm looking at the website. | Oct 17 13:48 |
| msb | Can I move a window from one desktop to another, or make it appear on all desktops? | Oct 17 13:50 |
| MinceR | yes | Oct 17 13:50 |
| msb | Can I use KDE4 konsole, konversation, klipper with it? | Oct 17 13:51 |
| msb | ...which I use with KDE3 | Oct 17 13:52 |
| MinceR | i can use konsole and klipper; never tried konversation, but it almost certainly works | Oct 17 13:52 |
| MinceR | kteatime also works :> | Oct 17 13:52 |
| msb | I want kgreenteatime | Oct 17 13:52 |
| MinceR | i don't know that one | Oct 17 13:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Occupy Wall St. Defeats NYC Eviction Attempt http://is.gd/7xQ3RM #realnews | Oct 17 13:53 | |
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| msb | Maybe I'll try XFCE, if I can install it and have it as an option and not mess up KDE3 and what I'm using of KDE4. | Oct 17 13:54 |
| MinceR | you can | Oct 17 13:55 |
| msb | Does it retain the desktop names and order, and the positions of various windows in the desktops, when you leave the session, turn off the computer, and reboot? | Oct 17 13:58 |
| MinceR | dunno | Oct 17 13:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] NSA & !Google Developing Hardened !Android Kernel 4 Govt Communication; Will B More Secure Than BlackBerry http://goo.gl/5o8FX | Oct 17 14:00 | |
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| msb | KDE3 remembers the size, location, and current directory of all my konsoles -- I have about 60 running. | Oct 17 14:00 |
| MinceR | there's session management | Oct 17 14:00 |
| msb | What does that do? | Oct 17 14:00 |
| MinceR | i don't know exactly, but it does save stuff about running applications when you log out | Oct 17 14:01 |
| msb | KDE4 konsole shows its current directory and the name of the job running, if any, making it very easy to find the desired konsole in the taskbar. | Oct 17 14:04 |
| msb | I might have 6 konsoles in a desktop. | Oct 17 14:04 |
| msb | Plus lots of other windows. | Oct 17 14:04 |
| msb | It saves so much work to just leave konsoles and other programs set up and running in the various desktops where I used them last, so I don't have to set them up again when I do a similar task. It takes a little RAM, but generally no CPU cycles. | Oct 17 14:05 |
| msb | I have 100 times the computing power that used to run a whole university (of teletypes and beehive terminals), so why not use it! | Oct 17 14:07 |
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| msb | But it's starting to have occasional crashes, so I'm going to have to spend $500 for a new mobo, cpu, and RAM, and get three times more power! | Oct 17 14:08 |
| msb | Born in 1945, I am amazed at this stuff! | Oct 17 14:09 |
| msb | I saw old vacuum tube (valve) digital computers when I was a kid, and worked on discrete-transistor computers. | Oct 17 14:10 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84624961 | Oct 17 14:20 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #blastfromthepast - Mugshot - a Red Hat project that had what Facebook, Googleplus etc now start to offer. http://arste... http://b1t.it/IrT | Oct 17 14:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #BBC mulls new effort to kickstart computer education - http://bit.ly/qFTBD9 it would be crazy not to #opensource | Oct 17 14:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Enabling By Removing Obstructions - My remarks as invited speaker at the #LibreOffice Conference opening event: http://wmk.me/nlczcX | Oct 17 14:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Unity much improved in Ubuntu 11.10 http://ur1.ca/5f683 | Oct 17 14:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Office Suites: #LibreOffice or #OpenOffice.org? - http://bit.ly/p5WvFH lots has been happening #apache #lgpl | Oct 17 15:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Porn link tipped in Australian net piracy case - http://bit.ly/rhUyOJ "stalking horse for a larger assault for porn industry"? (v @4b5) | Oct 17 15:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Good morning !identiverse !tzag | Oct 17 15:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wikileaks2 Australia: WikiLeaks dominates Walkley award nominations | SMH http://t.co/QJOg9hfr | Oct 17 15:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Office Suites: #LibreOffice or #OpenOffice.org? http://ur1.ca/5f9ui #office #microsoft #windows #software | Oct 17 15:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Ceata organizează o Petrecere de Semnare a Cheilor OpenPGP http://ur1.ca/5f7r8 #ceata #romania #encryption #pgp #signfest | Oct 17 15:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Adult content filters can't replace good parenting - http://bit.ly/nmZ1O1 the key point that gets overlooked | Oct 17 15:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @vando Tracking the Trackers: Self-Help Tools http://is.gd/R8xsJJ !privacy !aaa | Oct 17 15:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #Guvernul Boc caută pretexte pentru a împiedica finalizarea restituirii #Domeniului #Peleş către #Regele #Mihai http://ur1.ca/5f9y0 | Oct 17 15:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wikileaks2 RT @AnonyOps: US DoD Manual categorises protests asLow-Level Terrorism bit.ly/nBwlhT #OWS does this make us enemies of th ... | Oct 17 15:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I've begun to notice a pattern on Google+ and I think it's well worth mentioning. The general attitude among journalist... http://b1t.it/IsX | Oct 17 15:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Spent most of this weekend painting up my miniatures from @impactminis and @manticgames -- http://ur1.ca/5fajg #kingsof... http://b1t.it/Is5 | Oct 17 15:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] I've got almost 40 tabs/articles to read on my Iceweasel... let's read! | Oct 17 16:00 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: That kitten is still out there in that bed I made for him last night | Oct 17 16:10 |
| DaemonFC | I poked my head out to see if he was still out there and he ran up to me | Oct 17 16:10 |
| MinceR | :3 | Oct 17 16:10 |
| DaemonFC | he must have been hungry, he ate most of the food I gave him | Oct 17 16:10 |
| DaemonFC | I'm going to take him to the cat shelter when they open up here in a bit | Oct 17 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | he's a cute little thing, he'll be adopted | Oct 17 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | he won't last long outside, it's starting to get cold out and he's still pretty small | Oct 17 16:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Zizek, Michael Moore, Roseanne Barr & Cornel West (arrested) all visited @occupywallst. In UK, only Assange, Bragg. Who else will step up? | Oct 17 16:11 | |
| DaemonFC | I'm guessing 3-4 months old | Oct 17 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | he looks like a calico | Oct 17 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: I was thinking about what you said | Oct 17 16:14 |
| DaemonFC | get a tiger, still only one cat | Oct 17 16:14 |
| DaemonFC | have him eat the landlord | Oct 17 16:14 |
| DaemonFC | then I can have another cat | Oct 17 16:14 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: Ubuntu | Oct 17 16:14 |
| MinceR | what did i say? :) | Oct 17 16:14 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: Canonical | Oct 17 16:15 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: Unity | Oct 17 16:15 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: Gnome Shell | Oct 17 16:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wikileaks2 Zizek, Michael Moore, Roseanne Barr & Cornel West (arrested) all visited @occupywallst. In UK, only Assange, Bragg. Who e ... | Oct 17 16:15 | |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: Mac OS X | Oct 17 16:15 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: Windows | Oct 17 16:15 |
| DaemonFC | Jabba wouldn't like the other cat so that's why I haven't brought it in | Oct 17 16:15 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: woof woof meow meow :D | Oct 17 16:16 |
| MinceR | oh, i think i know what i said | Oct 17 16:16 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: one of those things is not like the others | Oct 17 16:16 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: oh? | Oct 17 16:16 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 17 16:16 |
| DaemonFC | I have a soft spot for cats | Oct 17 16:16 |
| sebsebseb | Windows? | Oct 17 16:16 |
| DaemonFC | and most dogs | Oct 17 16:16 |
| MinceR | no, "woof woof meow meow :D" | Oct 17 16:16 |
| sebsebseb | yep dogs and cats | Oct 17 16:16 |
| sebsebseb | :D | Oct 17 16:17 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: There are some dogs which are fairly intelligent and some that aren't | Oct 17 16:17 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: and some that are more behaved than others | Oct 17 16:17 |
| DaemonFC | I used to have an Australian Shepherd | Oct 17 16:17 |
| DaemonFC | she was a good dog | Oct 17 16:17 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: i have yet to find out about intelligent dogs | Oct 17 16:17 |
| sebsebseb | anyway one of our current dogs, well yeah I like him really, but he is the one that tends to annoy me, the other one on the other hand doesn't tend to :) | Oct 17 16:17 |
| sebsebseb | ,but one of them tends to start all the barking | Oct 17 16:17 |
| sebsebseb | and such | Oct 17 16:17 |
| DaemonFC | sebsebseb: I can't stand those little ones that act like someone gave them amphetamines all the time | Oct 17 16:18 |
| DaemonFC | jump up and down on you | Oct 17 16:18 |
| MinceR | then again, dead dogs do tend to be smarter than living ones | Oct 17 16:18 |
| DaemonFC | tear furniture up | Oct 17 16:18 |
| DaemonFC | poop in the house | Oct 17 16:18 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: oh the small, old women and such kind of dog? | Oct 17 16:18 |
| MinceR | so there's one way to improve | Oct 17 16:18 |
| sebsebseb | tiny little things | Oct 17 16:18 |
| DaemonFC | then there are ones that are just bred to be vicious | Oct 17 16:19 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: some dogs are so tiny, that if not careful, might end up walking on them | Oct 17 16:19 |
| DaemonFC | the police like them | Oct 17 16:19 |
| DaemonFC | but there are many breeds that are intelligent and mild mannered | Oct 17 16:19 |
| DaemonFC | those are the ones that are best kept as pets | Oct 17 16:19 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: When I say intelligent I mean for a dog. You know how humans have an intelligence range and some are profoundly retarded | Oct 17 16:20 |
| DaemonFC | most are average | Oct 17 16:20 |
| DaemonFC | and a few are above average | Oct 17 16:20 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: at times I might still miss our old dog, she died last year | Oct 17 16:20 |
| DaemonFC | dogs and cats have their own range | Oct 17 16:20 |
| MinceR | ah, so it's a difference i wouldn't notice :> | Oct 17 16:21 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: and these latest two we have, really can't replace her, and can never replace one dog with another propery enough anyway really, but it's differnet with two male dogs who are also brothers | Oct 17 16:21 |
| DaemonFC | sebsebseb: my dog died last year | Oct 17 16:21 |
| DaemonFC | she was 16 years old | Oct 17 16:21 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: well mine was 12 or something like that, got her as a puppy back in 1998, well I remember the day still even :D | Oct 17 16:22 |
| DaemonFC | I buried her in at my grandmother's place out in the country, she has several acres of back yard | Oct 17 16:22 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Oct 17 16:22 |
| DaemonFC | so I picked a spot under a tree that I've always liked | Oct 17 16:22 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: ours is ashes | Oct 17 16:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Hendry's #tips and tricks #debian http://dabase.com/tips/ | Oct 17 16:23 | |
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| sebsebseb | anyawy life is short really, and a lot of this Linux and such stuff, is one way, to waste time really, to waste our lives away hmm :( | Oct 17 16:23 |
| sebsebseb | I mean reading loads of rubbish on the web about it and such | Oct 17 16:23 |
| MinceR | acquiring knowledge is a waste of time? | Oct 17 16:24 |
| sebsebseb | to odo with Linux distros and so on | Oct 17 16:24 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: uh no, but | Oct 17 16:24 |
| DaemonFC | my dog was living at my mom's house, landlords tend not to take dogs and for a long time I was working 10-12-14 hours a day | Oct 17 16:24 |
| DaemonFC | you can't be fair to a dog under those conditions anyway | Oct 17 16:24 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: most of the opensource stuff to do with Linux and such on the web now, is just people expressing their opinions | Oct 17 16:24 |
| DaemonFC | I got Jabba because cats are more independent than dogs are | Oct 17 16:24 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: the web is full of opinion now, loads of blogs and comments and uh | Oct 17 16:25 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: that's not all there is, though | Oct 17 16:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @haris: !shared Intellectual Roots of Wall Street Protest Lie in Academe — arise from scholarship http://b1t.it/Ith | Oct 17 16:25 | |
| DaemonFC | dogs need your attention at least every several hours just to go to the bathroom | Oct 17 16:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Intellectual Roots of Wall Street Protest Lie in Academe - Faculty - The Chronicle of Higher Education .::. Size~: 52.08 KB | Oct 17 16:25 |
| sebsebseb | loads of opinion as jono would say I think as well sometimes | Oct 17 16:25 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: it's not like 2007 or whatever | Oct 17 16:25 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: when I used to read Linux stuff at UK college when bored, and it was quite interesting most of it | Oct 17 16:25 |
| sebsebseb | 2007/2008 and such | Oct 17 16:25 |
| DaemonFC | Unity sucks, but please use it if you like it | Oct 17 16:25 |
| MinceR | well, there's more crap on the web now, one needs to filter better | Oct 17 16:25 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 17 16:25 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: how to filter it out? | Oct 17 16:26 |
| sebsebseb | it's everywehre in this Linux stuff | Oct 17 16:26 |
| MinceR | choose what sites you follow, what feeds you add to your feed reader | Oct 17 16:26 |
| sebsebseb | I get onto an article about whatever | Oct 17 16:26 |
| sebsebseb | and there we go | Oct 17 16:26 |
| sebsebseb | it's there in the comments, if not in the article/blog post it self as well | Oct 17 16:26 |
| MinceR | mind how you search and which results you read | Oct 17 16:26 |
| MinceR | if you don't want to read opinion pieces, you don't have to | Oct 17 16:27 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: I don't really use RSS, tend to go to http://linuxtoday.com and get onto stuff from Identica | Oct 17 16:27 |
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| MinceR | i often simply don't read the comment section at all | Oct 17 16:27 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR uses Channel Definition Format | Oct 17 16:27 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: the comment section can be what makes things more interesting | Oct 17 16:27 |
| sebsebseb | depending on the thing | Oct 17 16:27 |
| DaemonFC | it's why he can't leave IE 6 | Oct 17 16:27 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 17 16:27 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: actually i use Atom or RSS :> | Oct 17 16:27 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: anyway I am behind on Linux stuff again really, but once I start going through the archeives of Linux Today again, well most of it I won't bother reading anyway I expect so :D | Oct 17 16:27 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: I am not schestowitz I find it rather hard tehse days, to stay up to date with stuff properly to do with this | Oct 17 16:28 |
| sebsebseb | each day | Oct 17 16:28 |
| sebsebseb | ,but most of it is rubbish now anyway | Oct 17 16:28 |
| sebsebseb | really | Oct 17 16:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Would the US consider Martin Luther King to be a #terrorist today? http://ur1.ca/5fadx #freedom /via @wikileaks2 @AnonyOps | Oct 17 16:28 | |
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| MinceR | sebsebseb: so do i | Oct 17 16:28 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: also if we take schestowitz for examle,oh sure he may go to gym and what not as well, but he basically his life dedicated to this stuff | Oct 17 16:29 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: things are a bit easier now though, now that I don't bother reading that much Ubuntu stuff anymore :D | Oct 17 16:30 |
| sebsebseb | and that's most of the Linux stuff still anwyay really | Oct 17 16:30 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: If the shelter doesn't take that cat, I have a walk in closet I don't use much | Oct 17 16:31 |
| DaemonFC | I can probably set him up a litter box, a bed, and some food and water in there, at least temporarily | Oct 17 16:31 |
| DaemonFC | have to keep him safe from Jabba :( | Oct 17 16:31 |
| DaemonFC | male cats instinctively attempt to kill kittens | Oct 17 16:32 |
| DaemonFC | even their own | Oct 17 16:32 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: :> | Oct 17 16:32 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: there you go, a useful filter :> | Oct 17 16:33 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: what schestowitz ? | Oct 17 16:33 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: i mean, ignoring ubuntu stuff | Oct 17 16:33 |
| sebsebseb | yep I do ignore most of it now :D | Oct 17 16:33 |
| sebsebseb | been quite a while | Oct 17 16:33 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: I should probably start ignoring most KDE stuff now really as well | Oct 17 16:33 |
| sebsebseb | KDE doesn't interest me that much at all really | Oct 17 16:34 |
| sebsebseb | may use it at times, but I don't want to know loads and loads about it | Oct 17 16:34 |
| MinceR | i don't even see KDE stuff nowadays | Oct 17 16:34 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: I do, but that's probably mainly since I am in the KDE group on Identica | Oct 17 16:34 |
| MinceR | ic | Oct 17 16:34 |
| sebsebseb | ,but yeah when I go through my time line | Oct 17 16:34 |
| sebsebseb | I should probably be a bit more caeful when it comes to what links I go on as well eraly | Oct 17 16:35 |
| sebsebseb | so I don't waste time on rubbish stuff | Oct 17 16:35 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: MinceR as for Unity I am looking forward to lots of other distros providing it in their repos as an option :D | Oct 17 16:35 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: MinceR it may not really be that good for us to use a lot for example, but it would be good for Desktop Linux as a whole, if loads of distros were able to run it | Oct 17 16:36 |
| DaemonFC | Arch and OpenSuse have the 2d version | Oct 17 16:36 |
| MinceR | i don't see what's good about being able to run unity | Oct 17 16:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] #occupy Don't fall into the trap of more taxes. The security state will just spend it on their pals. We need accountability, local taxation. | Oct 17 16:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] it happens everyday, but the first sip is still a mysterious wonder | Oct 17 16:36 | |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: yeah, but not 3D | Oct 17 16:37 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: some people like it | Oct 17 16:37 |
| sebsebseb | and Desktop Linux is meant to be all about choice | Oct 17 16:37 |
| sebsebseb | from the distros, to the interfaces you have in them, to other programs | Oct 17 16:37 |
| sebsebseb | well as far as I know :D | Oct 17 16:37 |
| MinceR | then let them package it for other distros :> | Oct 17 16:37 |
| sebsebseb | seems to me it's meant to be very much so about choice | Oct 17 16:37 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: a guy for Fedora tried, but technical issues | Oct 17 16:37 |
| sebsebseb | and someone for OpenSuse | Oct 17 16:38 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: anyway been stuff on the Ayatana mailnig list about Unity and other distros apparnatly recently | Oct 17 16:38 |
| sebsebseb | so it's going to get ported :D | Oct 17 16:38 |
| sebsebseb | apparnatly | Oct 17 16:38 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: I think it's best to wait untill Ubuntu 12.04 really though | Oct 17 16:38 |
| sebsebseb | then the other distros if they can, should seriously start putting in their repos | Oct 17 16:38 |
| sebsebseb | loads of them, that's what I think | Oct 17 16:38 |
| MinceR | i do fine with Fedora, XFCE and Openbox for now | Oct 17 16:39 |
| MinceR | (and xcompmgr) | Oct 17 16:39 |
| sebsebseb | wait untill Long Term Support Unity, well something Ubuntu would want to support for three years | Oct 17 16:39 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: I do fine with mainly using Mandriva 2010.2 again on this computer | Oct 17 16:39 |
| sebsebseb | and yep with old Gnome Shell preview from last year :) | Oct 17 16:39 |
| *MinceR looks up what they wanted to support for three years in the past | Oct 17 16:39 | |
| sebsebseb | that goes on top of Gnome 2 | Oct 17 16:39 |
| sebsebseb | however Mageia 2 alpha 1 next month, quite looking forward to that, also looking foward to Mint 12, since wondering what it will run | Oct 17 16:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @terrancegavan Pardon The Eruption is out! bit.ly/bT0CfO ▸ Top stories today via @laurelrusswurm > cc @larryrusswurm :) | Oct 17 16:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Without dissent there can be no #democracy and civil rights are a sham http://ur1.ca/5fadx #freedom /via @wikileaks2 @AnonyOps !freeliberty | Oct 17 16:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Looking fwd to seeing you all in Prague nxt week for first ever #linuxconeurope: http://bit.ly/noVmN8 | Oct 17 16:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 17 16:41 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84625241 | Oct 17 16:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 17-Oct-11 13:22:18 UTC - Identi.ca: Linux Phones Better Than "Apple"-branded Phones http://is.gd/OFzx0p #linux #android | Oct 17 16:42 |
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| MinceR | distrowatch seems to be nearly dead | Oct 17 16:43 |
| sebsebseb | oh? | Oct 17 16:44 |
| MinceR | slow as hell, if not dead | Oct 17 16:44 |
| MinceR | s/dead/down/ | Oct 17 16:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Record-Breaking File-Sharing Trial Heard in #Sweden - http://bit.ly/ose5pt doesn't look very hopeful... | Oct 17 16:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Mini Ubuntu community leadership summit to take placer at the Ubuntu Developer Summit - http://is.gd/zt75ar #ubuntu #locoteams | Oct 17 16:45 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: it is | Oct 17 16:45 |
| schestowitz | and their IRC channel too | Oct 17 16:45 |
| schestowitz | In 2008 or 09 Ladislav pretty much ceded control | Oct 17 16:45 |
| schestowitz | Since then it has just been a syndicator for releases and reviews, a few guest posts every Monday | Oct 17 16:45 |
| schestowitz | But that's OK | Oct 17 16:45 |
| MinceR | it's still loading | Oct 17 16:46 |
| schestowitz | Linux grew up in corporation | Oct 17 16:46 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: it is | Oct 17 16:46 |
| schestowitz | I't an excelletn resource | Oct 17 16:46 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 17 16:46 |
| schestowitz | but they never quite got around to redesigning and making lots of new things | Oct 17 16:46 |
| schestowitz | iow, it's rather stale. It happened when Ladislav threw his hands in the air in some columns several years back. | Oct 17 16:46 |
| schestowitz | A bit like Groklaw post PJ | Oct 17 16:47 |
| schestowitz | Gto ro GL | Oct 17 16:47 |
| MinceR | anyway, last LTS had KDE 4.4, which i've never seen | Oct 17 16:47 |
| schestowitz | Check out latest post | Oct 17 16:47 |
| schestowitz | It's just Oracle vsGoogle | Oct 17 16:47 |
| MinceR | still loading, can't see the posts yet :> | Oct 17 16:47 |
| schestowitz | So unless you're a copyright/patent lawyer, the site is too in-depth and focused on very few subjects | Oct 17 16:47 |
| MinceR | oh, you mean GL | Oct 17 16:47 |
| schestowitz | at l;ast it doesn't write dozens of posts to help Apple anymore (vs Psystar) | Oct 17 16:48 |
| schestowitz | Groklaw does't make breakthough posts like OOXML ones and exposing corruption anymore | Oct 17 16:48 |
| schestowitz | PJ used to do these very well after the SCO case | Oct 17 16:48 |
| schestowitz | so around 2008-2011 | Oct 17 16:48 |
| schestowitz | Prior to that it was mostly SCO | Oct 17 16:49 |
| *schestowitz back to working on client's project | Oct 17 16:49 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.jobvine.co.za/what-does-it-take-to-get-a-job-at-google/ | Oct 17 16:49 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !tzag @bavatar | Oct 17 16:51 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: It's sensationalist | Oct 17 16:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] ♺ @meanmicio: Updating #gnuhealth to #tryton 2.2 Release date Oct 24 #gnu #fsf | Oct 17 16:53 | |
| DaemonFC | the new experimental builds of Adblock Plus for Chrome are every bit as good as the Firefox one | Oct 17 16:54 |
| DaemonFC | you have to turn on experimental extension API though | Oct 17 16:54 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] I AM NOT MOVING - Short Film - Occupy Wall Street http://bit.ly/piA8kG #youtube | Oct 17 17:00 | |
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| MinceR | DaemonFC: so the experimental API can now block stuff before it gets loaded? | Oct 17 17:00 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Oct 17 17:01 |
| MinceR | nice | Oct 17 17:01 |
| DaemonFC | Adblock Plus basically stops the request and returns a small transparent image instead | Oct 17 17:01 |
| *MinceR wonders when rekonq will get this capability | Oct 17 17:02 | |
| DaemonFC | Graphics Feature Status | Oct 17 17:02 |
| DaemonFC | Canvas: Hardware accelerated | Oct 17 17:02 |
| DaemonFC | 3D CSS: Hardware accelerated | Oct 17 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | HTML Rendering: Hardware accelerated | Oct 17 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | WebGL: Hardware accelerated | Oct 17 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | WebGL multisampling: Hardware accelerated | Oct 17 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | Driver vendorMesa Project and SGI | Oct 17 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | Driver version7.12 | Oct 17 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | Driver date | Oct 17 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | Pixel shader version1.20 | Oct 17 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | Vertex shader version1.20 | Oct 17 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | GL version2.1 | Oct 17 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | GL_VENDORX.Org | Oct 17 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | GL_RENDERERGallium 0.4 on AMD REDWOOD | Oct 17 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | GL_VERSION2.1 Mesa 7.12-devel | Oct 17 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | it works well | Oct 17 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | I decided to try the HTML 5 version of Emberwind that Opera ported to show off their Opera 12 alpha | Oct 17 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | which crashes Opera 12 alpha on Linux | Oct 17 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | it works fine in Chrome | Oct 17 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | complete with hardware acceleration / WebGL | Oct 17 17:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !lo | The Lxnews sub !reddit is a very good idea, but I'm surprised there's no !lxnews group - need to bags that, @fabsh & @methoddan | Oct 17 17:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I wonder what version of !identicurse is in !Ubuntu 11.10? (I'm refusing to use the word Oneiric) | Oct 17 17:05 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: the Opera 12 alpha is having bizarre reactions with Windows drivers | Oct 17 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | from leaking memory to Opera crashing to blue screens of death | Oct 17 17:05 |
| MinceR | it loaded! | Oct 17 17:07 |
| MinceR | except for the bar on the right | Oct 17 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | OpenGL on Windows is always questionable | Oct 17 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | it depends entirely on the vendor's installable client driver | Oct 17 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | brb, taking Mr. Kitty to the shelter | Oct 17 17:08 |
| DaemonFC | (No, not Jabba) :P | Oct 17 17:09 |
| *DaemonFC put that there as a preemptive to schestowitz | Oct 17 17:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Why aren’t we using Google+? http://bit.ly/pYmopI Results of an interesting survey of university students | Oct 17 17:10 | |
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| schestowitz | ಠ_ಠ | Oct 17 17:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] actually in my experience the things citizens like him most for is the day off... | Oct 17 17:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] For browsing, I tend to use Chromium more and more. For development, I use Chromium to view and Firefox (Abrowser) for ... http://b1t.it/It8 | Oct 17 17:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] !identica users: click on "Old school" on the right side of the screen to get hierarchical conversations back | Oct 17 17:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Andy Wingo:what's your C migration plan? http://ur1.ca/5fb8l | Oct 17 17:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] NYPD arrest, tow WikiLeaks truck at Occupy Wall St #ows (video) http://t.co/jKbiSvSM | Oct 17 17:41 | |
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| *ChanServ gives channel operator status to _Goblin | Oct 17 17:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk There had to be substantial support to get a federal day off. | Oct 17 17:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk i wonder if kkk members take MLK day off ... it would be a #deliciousirony | Oct 17 17:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @chriswaterguy Ouch - the Bible and abortion: http://ur1.ca/5dcuu May cause offence. (Correction - will cause offence.) | Oct 17 18:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] arizona? civilized? | Oct 17 18:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Stable kernel 3.0.7 http://ur1.ca/5fbo4 | Oct 17 18:10 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3f/Saxon.svg | Oct 17 18:10 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: elections are coming | Oct 17 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | no county, state, or federal candidates this time | Oct 17 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | just the mayor (who is finished) and a couple of township representatives | Oct 17 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | I can't wait to see what they replace Updike with | Oct 17 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | seems every time they manage to do worse somehow | Oct 17 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | you'd figure it would bottom out eventually, but so far it hasn't | Oct 17 18:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] A Huge Speed Boost Is on the Way to Firefox for Android http://ur1.ca/5fbot | Oct 17 18:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @jwildeboer #blastfromthepast - Mugshot - a Red Hat project that had what Facebook, Googleplus etc now start to offer. http://arste.. ... | Oct 17 18:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: A Huge Speed Boost Is on the Way to Firefox for Android | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 69.31 KB | Oct 17 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | Updike is the one who goes on spending sprees and nepotism hiring policies, and calls his opponents Taliban | Oct 17 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | under Updike, the Local Option Income Tax has risen to the maximum allowed by state law | Oct 17 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | and most properties (spare the doctors and lawyers and such) have managed to double in value for tax assessment purposes | Oct 17 18:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Wow, back in those days I didn't even know what #Facebook was. I was on #studivz! Do you know what became of Mugshot? | Oct 17 18:15 | |
| DaemonFC | the main theme of this election is not what the candidates plan to do, it's a competition to see who can blame Updike for everything the most without offering any alternatives | Oct 17 18:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Oh. No that busts the myth. (I thought it was a magnet for free thinkers ... like artists ... didn't know it was also one for nobrainers) | Oct 17 18:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #OccupyWallSt: a protester's version of the Citibank arrests http://identi.ca/url/54838511 | Oct 17 18:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Rome Burns http://identi.ca/url/54839011 | Oct 17 18:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] and let us not forget the beloved sheriff who forces his inmates to live in tents in the middle of the az desert... | Oct 17 18:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] not full tents of course, that would be too expensive(same reason you 2 meals 4 day are both a bologna sandwich w/ no cheese..) | Oct 17 18:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] but like screen tents w/o screens, measured at 120f inside iirc(Been a while since I looked it up) | Oct 17 18:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Billion Ton Comet May Have Missed Earth By A Few Hundred Kilometres in 1883 http://identi.ca/url/54839711 !science | Oct 17 18:28 | |
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| DaemonFC | not like anyone would have noticed in 1883 | Oct 17 18:29 |
| DaemonFC | the comet maybe, not the distance | Oct 17 18:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Want a Real Economic Stimulus and Jobs Plan? Forgive Student Loan Debt! http://identi.ca/url/54840392 | Oct 17 18:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Nachdem man den Banken die Milliarden geschenkt hat kann man als Politiker ja auch ein bisschen dagegen sein wegen Wäh... http://b1t.it/Ivs | Oct 17 18:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Linux Mint developers make GNOME 3 edition plans - The H Open Source #gnulinux #floss http://goo.gl/s0jDZ | Oct 17 18:35 | |
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| _Goblin | A billion ton comet is big then is it? | Oct 17 18:35 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk Wow. The things you never hear about in !Canada D: | Oct 17 18:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] MATE - ArchWiki | "is an attempt at forking and maintaining GNOME 2" #floss #gnulinux http://ur1.ca/50dsb | Oct 17 18:36 | |
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| DaemonFC | it would probably do some redecorating | Oct 17 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 17 18:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] KDE rekonq 0.8 released - The H Open Source #floss http://ur1.ca/5fc0y | Oct 17 18:38 | |
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| sebsebseb | _Goblin: http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot/statement | Oct 17 18:40 |
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| sebsebseb | _Goblin: and the Mint news I just seen come n here :D | Oct 17 18:40 |
| sebsebseb | so I gues that means they will provide Gnome 3.2 them selves as well | Oct 17 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | apparently Mint is taking bids for which search engine will pay them the most | Oct 17 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | watch it be Bing or something | Oct 17 18:42 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: they got to support Gnome 2.32 them selves then it seems | Oct 17 18:42 |
| sebsebseb | and thats good they are doing a Gnome 3.2 version as well | Oct 17 18:42 |
| sebsebseb | and helping with mate as well | Oct 17 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | I'm just not sure about Mate | Oct 17 18:43 |
| DaemonFC | it has Trinity written all over it | Oct 17 18:43 |
| DaemonFC | you know, the world goes on without it while it applies hack on hack to try to work with all the new stuff | Oct 17 18:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Mal ein bisschen die Sprachwahl radikalisieren. Netzneutralität war gestern. Datenrassismus ist heute. #justsayin | Oct 17 18:45 | |
| DaemonFC | but I'm glad they went with GNOME 3.2 rather than Unity | Oct 17 18:46 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: I might donate money to Mint as well not just Mageia eventaully | Oct 17 18:46 |
| DaemonFC | at least the shell and applications are guaranteed to integrate | Oct 17 18:46 |
| sebsebseb | mate seems to be an Arch thing at the moment really | Oct 17 18:46 |
| DaemonFC | unlike the pitbull on chihuahua type mating going on with Unity | Oct 17 18:46 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Oct 17 18:47 |
| _Goblin | DaemonFC: I wouldn't expect it to be bing.....I think people who are Linux users do not have the time for any more MS wares...I think when they finally break free from the MS hold, they want to break totally free....also I think the bad image of MS would prevent mint from being associated..... | Oct 17 18:51 |
| _Goblin | Who wants to be associated with Microsoft and its kiss of death... | Oct 17 18:51 |
| _Goblin | Has OpenSUSE florished under its Microsoft Overlord? | Oct 17 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | well, maybe they'll serve up Bing under the Yahoo theme | Oct 17 18:51 |
| _Goblin | that again would be reviled by the community I think | Oct 17 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu tried to get away with it | Oct 17 18:52 |
| _Goblin | tried being the operative word | Oct 17 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | and they gave up when a lot of users protested, loudly (and Google came and dumped more money on them) | Oct 17 18:52 |
| _Goblin | it wouldnt work then and I don't think it would work now. | Oct 17 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | nobody wants Bing or the Yahoo theme for Bing | Oct 17 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | some because it's Microsoft | Oct 17 18:53 |
| _Goblin | I wouldn't mind if Bing offered an advantage to me....but it doesn't....it just lines the pockets of ballmer. | Oct 17 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | but most because of the bad search quality | Oct 17 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | the main users of Bing are ones where it came with IE or something from Microsoft hijacked their Firefox search | Oct 17 18:53 |
| _Goblin | I think MS now has an image problem (as well as a failing and reducing catalogue) | Oct 17 18:53 |
| _Goblin | Can anyone recall a happy Microsoft user? | Oct 17 18:54 |
| _Goblin | Its tollerated at best. | Oct 17 18:54 |
| _Goblin | suffered.... | Oct 17 18:54 |
| _Goblin | coped with | Oct 17 18:54 |
| _Goblin | Its very nice to see Ubuntu and the Sabayon test results.. | Oct 17 18:54 |
| _Goblin | and a very big surprise... | Oct 17 18:55 |
| _Goblin | one would think the Gentoo derived distro would out perform hands down.... | Oct 17 18:55 |
| _Goblin | oh how that was wrong. Ubuntu FTW. | Oct 17 18:55 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 95 OSR 2.1 was the last version of Windows I actually liked | Oct 17 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | then came Mandatory Toolbar Explorer which had a corrupted HTML renderer and typically destroyed the copy of Windows it was installed into and/or made the shell start leaking like a sieve | Oct 17 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | (this was the Windows 98 default configuration, you needed third party tools to pry it back out) | Oct 17 18:57 |
| _Goblin | to be fair.....I had quite a good relationship with XP | Oct 17 18:58 |
| DaemonFC | I eventually used Windows 98, but I removed Internet Explorer, completely | Oct 17 18:58 |
| DaemonFC | and used Windows 95 OSR 2.1's Explorer shell | Oct 17 18:58 |
| DaemonFC | fixed up to say Windows 98 in the menu :) | Oct 17 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | about the only legitimate improvement over Windows 95 was that cache memory could be read from directly without duplicating everything elsewhere first | Oct 17 19:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Prison Planet.com » US Begins Huge Military Maneuvers Aimed at #Iran - #usa #mic #obama http://goo.gl/Qqz7o | Oct 17 19:00 | |
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| DaemonFC | _Goblin: Windows XP was only usable after they patched thousands of bugs | Oct 17 19:01 |
| DaemonFC | and by then of course it was basically EOL | Oct 17 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | which is typical | Oct 17 19:02 |
| _Goblin | yeah.....its almost fit for purpose now (XP) | Oct 17 19:02 |
| _Goblin | another 10 years of patches....and dare I say it, it might be......ok. | Oct 17 19:02 |
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| DaemonFC | well, there's no new IE, DirectX, Windows Live Messenger, and eventually Security Essentials won't work either | Oct 17 19:03 |
| DaemonFC | hardware support drying up is what will kill off XP | Oct 17 19:03 |
| schestowitz | r"[18:13] <DaemonFC> Updike is the one who goes on spending sprees and nepotism hiring policies, and calls his opponents Taliban | Oct 17 19:05 |
| schestowitz | !google Taliban updike | Oct 17 19:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Charlie Rose - Charlie Rose Green Room with John Updike | http://www.charlierose.com/view/clip/10516 | Oct 17 19:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Green Gospel, by L.C. Fiore « Southern Literary Review | http://southernlitreview.com/reviews/green-gospel-by-l-c-fiore.htm | Oct 17 19:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Back Issues - Magazine - The Atlantic | http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/backissues | Oct 17 19:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - I, Terrorist > Jewish Review of Books | http://www.jewishreviewofbooks.com/publications/detail/i-terrorist | Oct 17 19:05 |
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| DaemonFC | !google Steve Updike little taliban | Oct 17 19:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Huntington Mayor terrorist remark | http://www.wane.com/dpp/news/Local_WANE_Huntington_Mayor_remark_20090122_2114 | Oct 17 19:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - : March 2011 | http://www.garylsnyder.com/my_weblog/2011/03/index.html | Oct 17 19:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - The Gary Snyder Show | http://www.garylsnyder.com/ | Oct 17 19:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Terrorist by John Updike - Reviews, Discussion, Bookclubs, Lists | http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/11657.Terrorist | Oct 17 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | "They're like a little Taliban. They're pecking on the sides of you saying, 'You need to do this...,Stay out of it. Stay out of my city business, okay?" said Mayor Steve Updike. | Oct 17 19:06 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Oct 17 19:06 |
| schestowitz | He uses dog whistles | Oct 17 19:06 |
| schestowitz | Republican IIRC | Oct 17 19:06 |
| DaemonFC | !steve updike leave huntington if you're not happy | Oct 17 19:06 |
| DaemonFC | err fail | Oct 17 19:07 |
| DaemonFC | !google steve updike leave huntington if you're not happy | Oct 17 19:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Huntington places ban on 'K2' drug | http://hnhs.hccsc.k12.in.us/modules/groups/homepagefiles/cms/1496855/File/Volumne%252045%2520Issue%25202.pdf%3Fsessionid%3D41c78e42f4f1daaf29cf08b41e974b5c | Oct 17 19:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - August 2011-color.qxp - Huntington County Chamber of Commerce | http://huntingtoncountychamber.com/files/ecc23d1808dc8db1293afcf759a6ae43.pdf | Oct 17 19:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Community | the Huntington County TAB - Huntington, Indiana ... | http://www.huntingtoncountytab.com/archives/community%3Ffilter0%3D5%26filter1%3D2010 | Oct 17 19:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - : A Meeting with Evan Bayh | http://www.garylsnyder.com/my_weblog/2009/08/a-meeting-with-evan-bayh.html | Oct 17 19:07 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: COLA gave me a little inspiration tonight... | Oct 17 19:07 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, he said at one point anyone unhappy with him should move | Oct 17 19:07 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/1441235071971134.png | Oct 17 19:07 |
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| _Goblin | to check out Lazarus again....forgot about that project and my previous history with Delphi many years ago | Oct 17 19:07 |
| DaemonFC | of course in some neighborhoods, there's a 25% or higher vacancy rate already | Oct 17 19:07 |
| DaemonFC | people go where the jobs are, and that's not here | Oct 17 19:07 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: remember this? http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/1441235071971134.png | Oct 17 19:08 |
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| DaemonFC | thanks in part to his oppressive taxation too | Oct 17 19:08 |
| schestowitz | I put your blog in the trash can on Sunday | Oct 17 19:08 |
| schestowitz | Cause you shut down your blog with Updike the trash man | Oct 17 19:08 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Oct 17 19:08 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, the Garbage Warrior | Oct 17 19:08 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/1234211_apple_headphones.jpg | Oct 17 19:09 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] We, the people, are too big too fail. #occupywallstreet #justsayin #simpletruth | Oct 17 19:10 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.indianasnewscenter.com/news/local/89723877.html | Oct 17 19:11 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Right to Research Coalition (@R2RC) is on the ball with some great Open Access Week webcasts Oct 24, 26. Sign up now! http://goo.gl/zRO2c | Oct 17 19:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Prison Planet.com » Big Banks Refuse to Let People Close Accounts #usa #bankingsystem #crooks #policestate http://goo.gl/as0zp | Oct 17 19:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] No Blackberries = Less Traffic Accidents in Abu Dhabi and Dubai http://gizmo.do/r5tENG | Oct 17 19:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Emacs for Halloween http://ur1.ca/5fckm | Oct 17 19:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Monday http://ur1.ca/5fcku | Oct 17 19:33 | |
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| schestowitz | things have been slow recently | Oct 17 19:36 |
| schestowitz | I think one major battle is not fought in desktops anymore | Oct 17 19:37 |
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| schestowitz | Frankyl, they are treated as boring ans almost stale | Oct 17 19:37 |
| schestowitz | Because much of the innovation happened in devices now | Oct 17 19:37 |
| schestowitz | so lots of articles appear about iOS, Apple, app stores, etc. | Oct 17 19:37 |
| schestowitz | Less about desktop software like accounting packages, more about Web-based | Oct 17 19:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] in 2012, I will be in the Blackpool of America for the National Beard and Mustache Competition | Oct 17 19:38 | |
| schestowitz | This means that OSes like Ubuntu and projects like LibrOffice are aiming at an area which has become less lucrative | Oct 17 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | I tend to use Opera as my browser, and at one point I noticed that Linux Mint was modifying Opera's search preferences | Oct 17 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | to lead to their Google CSE page, which is crap | Oct 17 19:38 |
| schestowitz | Opera too? | Oct 17 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | I reported the issue to Opera and they fixed it later | Oct 17 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, now it won't allow search changes unless it was done by the user | Oct 17 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | Windows and Mac builds too | Oct 17 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | so Linux Mint searchjacking Opera no longer works | Oct 17 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | as long as you have a recent Opera | Oct 17 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | I find it annoying that they modify programs that aren't even theirs / from them / whatever | Oct 17 19:41 |
| schestowitz | how about xchat? | Oct 17 19:41 |
| schestowitz | does ubuntu still pull a mandriva? | Oct 17 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | what about it? | Oct 17 19:41 |
| schestowitz | adding autojoin items | Oct 17 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | not autojoin, but it lists two duplicates of Freenode, one called Debian IRC and one called Ubuntu IRC | Oct 17 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | and lately they haven't bothered making Ubuntu IRC the default, so it tends to autojoin #debian if you just click on things | Oct 17 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 17 19:42 |
| schestowitz | In Russia, Mandriva autojoins YOU | Oct 17 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | it reset to this behavior every release cycle and normally they fixed it | Oct 17 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | but they aren't even bothering anymore | Oct 17 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | they recommend Xchat-stupid | Oct 17 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | Xchat-GNOME that is | Oct 17 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 17 19:43 |
| schestowitz | xchat-gnome | Oct 17 19:43 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Oct 17 19:43 |
| schestowitz | you beat me to it | Oct 17 19:43 |
| schestowitz | I hate that one | Oct 17 19:43 |
| cubezzz | what's wrong with xchat? | Oct 17 19:43 |
| schestowitz | TOO MANY BUTTONS | Oct 17 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | not Xchat, the Xchat GNOME fork | Oct 17 19:44 |
| schestowitz | use konversation | Oct 17 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | that one is horrible | Oct 17 19:44 |
| cubezzz | oh I see | Oct 17 19:44 |
| schestowitz | best I ever usd | Oct 17 19:44 |
| schestowitz | And I did shop around a bit | Oct 17 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | Xchat-GNOME is not usable | Oct 17 19:44 |
| cubezzz | is this some gnome3 thing? | Oct 17 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | they do things like mandatory hidden userlist | Oct 17 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | it's now a popup menu | Oct 17 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | that is the most fucking annoying thing I've ever seen | Oct 17 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | I used it once, for about 5 minutes | Oct 17 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | before I couldn't stand it anymore | Oct 17 19:45 |
| cubezzz | hmm, I'm not sure I even have konservation on the kde 3.5.10 box | Oct 17 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | it's fucking annoying even by jono standards even, maybe, unless he's "one of them" | Oct 17 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | the pod people that actually like it | Oct 17 19:45 |
| cubezzz | I have kSirc | Oct 17 19:46 |
| cubezzz | which I've never used | Oct 17 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | pop-up user list is on par with Unity itself | Oct 17 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | on my fucking annoying-o-meter | Oct 17 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 17 19:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] W Drawbridge, Microsoft revisits the idea of a Library OS, in which bits of the OS reside in memory for the app itself: http://bit.ly/pAywNP | Oct 17 19:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] ICANN takes charge of Internet time zone master list (Network World): http://bit.ly/qWhSiH | Oct 17 19:47 | |
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| cubezzz | naim for text only | Oct 17 19:47 |
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| cubezzz | I'm a long time xchat user though | Oct 17 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | if it wasn't for that STUPID STUPID STUPID DUMB RIDICULOUS and did I mention fucking annoying? thing, xchat-gnome would be sort of alright | Oct 17 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | DO NOT WANT | Oct 17 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Oct 17 19:48 |
| cubezzz | I'm minimizing | Oct 17 19:49 |
| schestowitz | > Thanks to everyone who responded to my call for venues - within a few hours | Oct 17 19:49 |
| schestowitz | > Richard had many suitable offers. | Oct 17 19:49 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 17 19:49 |
| schestowitz | > As a result we can expect several opportunities to see Richard speak in the UK | Oct 17 19:49 |
| schestowitz | > this November! | Oct 17 19:49 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 17 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | apparently that has been fixed for over a year, but since there haven't been any actual releases in over a year, the fix is not in any version of it that users will use | Oct 17 19:49 |
| schestowitz | > Kind regards, | Oct 17 19:49 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 17 19:49 |
| schestowitz | > Sam. | Oct 17 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | fixed in CVS is not good enough | Oct 17 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | but some people seem to think it is | Oct 17 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | even if no humans benefit from the fix | Oct 17 19:49 |
| cubezzz | instead of complaining about what you don't like, why not talk about stuff you do like? | Oct 17 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | there's the problem with infrequent releases | Oct 17 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | users get to use a broken old version while you endlessly polish something | Oct 17 19:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Linux-based Supercomputers Predict the Future: http://bit.ly/mS6m1S << by @rikkikite #linux #original | Oct 17 19:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 17 19:50 |
| cubezzz | I experimented with mwm, it's interesting but it's too minimal | Oct 17 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | doesn't the name kind of imply this? | Oct 17 19:52 |
| cubezzz | motif window manager | Oct 17 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Oct 17 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | I can't name anything actively developed that uses motif | Oct 17 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | can you? | Oct 17 19:53 |
| cubezzz | yes | Oct 17 19:53 |
| cubezzz | cube_motif | Oct 17 19:53 |
| cubezzz | icewm | Oct 17 19:53 |
| cubezzz | er, wait, maybe just cube_motif | Oct 17 19:53 |
| cubezzz | not sure about icewm | Oct 17 19:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Enthusiasm for Perl and Ruby cools, while JavaScript, PHP and Python continue to gain steam (InfoWorld): http://bit.ly/pLEX1L | Oct 17 19:54 | |
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| cubezzz | there is a motif developers forum, it's active | Oct 17 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | icewm does not use motif | Oct 17 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | it has a theme that resembles motif | Oct 17 19:54 |
| cubezzz | what does it use? | Oct 17 19:54 |
| cubezzz | I haven't looked at the code yet | Oct 17 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | iirc it just uses xlib directly | Oct 17 19:55 |
| cubezzz | it's very fast | Oct 17 19:57 |
| cubezzz | I'll have a quick look at the code | Oct 17 19:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft's Drawbridge experiment would provide secure virtualization, perpetual app compatibility (Channel 9 video): http://bit.ly/pAywNP | Oct 17 19:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] How can the tech industry influence human rights? See @EFF at Silicon Valley Human @RightsCon 10/25-26. https://eff.org/r.D9S | Oct 17 20:02 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Silicon Valley Human Rights Conference | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 19.56 KB | Oct 17 20:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Aventura software-ului liber http://ur1.ca/5fcxk #romania #foss #gnu #linux #software #computers | Oct 17 20:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @eff: How can the tech industry influence human rights? See EFF at Silicon Valley Human @RightsCon 10/25-26. https://eff.org/r.D9S | Oct 17 20:05 | |
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| cubezzz | no one uses xinitrc the way they should | Oct 17 20:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Last day to nominate a hero who extends freedom and innovation in the realm of information technology. http://ur1.ca/5fd3j | Oct 17 20:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nominate a 2011 Pioneer! | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 21.52 KB | Oct 17 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: A lot of things in UNIX are abused for various reasons | Oct 17 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | usually because they produce desirable results most of the time from the unintended purpose | Oct 17 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | and eventually some of this even works its way into official documentation | Oct 17 20:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Occupy protests around the world: 951 protests in 82 countries http://identi.ca/url/54869012 | Oct 17 20:30 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/ASF-says-OpenOffice-org-is-in-good-health-1362079.html | Oct 17 20:38 |
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| DaemonFC | their activity level suggests otherwise | Oct 17 20:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Warner Bros. Buys Story That Was Written In The !Reddit Comments; Then Tells Author To Stop Redditing http://goo.gl/qZXwB from Techdirt | Oct 17 20:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Taibbi: Occupy Wall Street is Bigger Than Left vs. Right http://identi.ca/url/54871645 | Oct 17 20:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Windows 7 [finally] surpasses Windows XP in market share, globally http://is.gd/kmLOIB | Oct 17 20:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] GEMA does sound like Gay Mart !lo which sounds like a magazine opportunity with a specific target audience | Oct 17 20:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @glynmoody: #DRM Needs To Be Banned Because It’s Toxic - http://bit.ly/nMMEHp just like banned lead... | Oct 17 20:44 | |
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| cubezzz | newflash: windows is on the decline... | Oct 17 20:44 |
| cubezzz | in my house | Oct 17 20:44 |
| cubezzz | film at 11 | Oct 17 20:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Missionários públicos- A Escolha do Editor - Jornal de negócios - #PT #collapse http://ur1.ca/5fd9p | Oct 17 20:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #WineHQ Database Compromised http://goo.gl/6pg4F | Oct 17 20:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Amazon Bypassing Publishers By Signing Authors Directly http://goo.gl/9xF5N | Oct 17 20:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] RT @fsf Press Release: The danger of computers becoming Windows-only http://ur1.ca/5fd9c !gnu !fsf | Oct 17 20:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Can We Just Admit That It's Insane When #Microsoft Has A 'Licensing Program' For Someone Else's Products? http://goo.gl/4H8tm | Oct 17 20:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Microsoft need to be torn to shreds on #racketeering charges for all their criminal activities around the world | Oct 17 20:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Can We Just Admit That It's Insane When Microsoft Has A 'Licensing Program' For Someone Else's Products? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 117.26 KB | Oct 17 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | "The usual villains, Apple Inc, Cisco Systems Inc, Oracle Corp and Microsoft Corp, are pushing for the tax breaks to bring home money stored in havens like Ireland. The last time they got their way, they put the money into bonuses and dividends rather than the promised investment and jobs." | Oct 17 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Any reason you forgot to mention Google, which is incorporated in Ireland and pays almost no US taxes | Oct 17 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 17 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | I think I recall their US tax being like 1.2% of their net profits thanks to using tax loopholes designed for the rich | Oct 17 20:56 |
| schestowitz | yeah, serious issue | Oct 17 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | RMS mentioned that you can't judge an entire company based on only some of what it does | Oct 17 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | in reference to Apple contributing to open source where it suits them | Oct 17 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | VMWare is a major sponsor/contributor to Mesa3D | Oct 17 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | Google is a huge contributor to Webkit | Oct 17 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | Adobe too | Oct 17 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | Even Microsoft does a tiny bit of open source, but is usually careful to limit the scope to where the only beneficiaries are themselves and as a tie in with their own products | Oct 17 20:59 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: yes | Oct 17 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | and its great to have open source code made available, but it doesn't say anything about the company that did it, all by itself | Oct 17 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | companies like open source in some contexts because it's an efficient development process | Oct 17 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | and it can offload some of the work to outside contributors | Oct 17 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: With that said, are you feeling warm and fuzzy enough about some of the open source projects at Google to exclude them from your list of tax cheats? | Oct 17 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | or was it just an honest omission? :) | Oct 17 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | Google only pays 1.2% of its income in taxes while Wall Street Journal assholes call people making minimum wage and paying more like 20% or more of their income (lucky duckies) | Oct 17 21:07 |
| DaemonFC | of course, "Wall Street" Journal, like Wall Street, loves any company that turns a profit even if they did so unethically or illegally | Oct 17 21:08 |
| schestowitz | yes, just like one should expect | Oct 17 21:11 |
| schestowitz | it's also owned by a billionaires who likes microsoft | Oct 17 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | Dear IRS, I have decided to not pay you because I've declared myself to be Irish. It works for Google. | Oct 17 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Oct 17 21:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Have you got an Ubuntu tattoo? This guy has: http://is.gd/K6Pw65 #ubuntu #locoteams #UbuntuOregon | Oct 17 21:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] gonna be a pain to fix if you guys change your logo colours again... | Oct 17 21:24 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: it only works if you're big | Oct 17 21:44 |
| schestowitz | and can afford this swindle | Oct 17 21:44 |
| schestowitz | luckily, the US citizens start marching the streets | Oct 17 21:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is psquid with 66 dents! | Oct 17 21:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @jonobacon I've always admired tattoos but I can never get past the idea of the completely unnecessary pain involved | Oct 17 21:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #HPR roundtable proposal - lobbyists & malware #ACTA #DRM - anyone interested DM me, I plan to do it on Mumble, you'll need a client | Oct 17 21:54 | |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: looks like the campagain against the secure boot thing is being over loaded by people that want to sign: http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot/statement | Oct 17 22:16 |
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| sebsebseb | http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot/statement | Oct 17 22:16 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] #MontyProgram website states that it has "flexible spouse policies" for its employees. !puzzled | Oct 17 22:22 | |
| tessier | sebsebseb: I'm all for secure boot as long as I can sign my own stuff... | Oct 17 22:25 |
| tessier | sebsebseb: Having crypto and code signing built into hardware is actually great for security. | Oct 17 22:25 |
| tessier | The real problem is they only want to allow Microsoft to be able to sign. | Oct 17 22:25 |
| sebsebseb | tessier: you don't tend to chat here, so hi, and I agree, it's a good thing really for security, but here's the thing the Linux distros and such issue | Oct 17 22:25 |
| sebsebseb | it's not meant to block other OS's | Oct 17 22:26 |
| sebsebseb | from being able to run on the computer really | Oct 17 22:26 |
| tessier | sebsebseb: Yeah, I idle a lot. But I'm often around, just budy in other windows. | Oct 17 22:26 |
| tessier | busy | Oct 17 22:26 |
| sebsebseb | oh channels such as? | Oct 17 22:26 |
| sebsebseb | ah, but Microsoft were looking into dual boot or whatever | Oct 17 22:26 |
| sebsebseb | maybe Microsoft wil end up signing Linux distros heh heh | Oct 17 22:26 |
| sebsebseb | so yeah buy a Windows 8 PC with this, then say to Micrsooft I want to instal... as well, and then get the code or whatever for that, and done | Oct 17 22:27 |
| sebsebseb | if you get what I mean | Oct 17 22:27 |
| MinceR | locking into vista8 is not good for security, though | Oct 17 22:27 |
| sebsebseb | I know sounds like a joke, but I am being serious here | Oct 17 22:27 |
| tessier | I'm on #kernel-panic a lot. But I'm also busy in other terminal windows. Right now I'm setting up a new spam filter server on CentOS 6 for a client. Hope to finish that today. Then move onto redundant load balancers and then redundant firewalls. | Oct 17 22:27 |
| tessier | Would love to have all of that done by the end of the week. | Oct 17 22:27 |
| MinceR | they "don't engineer for security", they've said so themselves | Oct 17 22:27 |
| tessier | Not sure it's going to happen though. | Oct 17 22:27 |
| sebsebseb | surely they will be braking laws though | Oct 17 22:27 |
| sebsebseb | at least in Erope anyway | Oct 17 22:27 |
| sebsebseb | if it's made so only Windows can boot with this stuff enabled | Oct 17 22:27 |
| sebsebseb | you know European Commision, and consumer choice stuff and all that | Oct 17 22:28 |
| sebsebseb | plus the Linux Australlia I read would compagain against this stuff | Oct 17 22:28 |
| sebsebseb | oh and FSF has already, there's a compagain, but seems to be being over loaded | Oct 17 22:28 |
| sebsebseb | also Mac's can run Linux still right, and they have this thing? | Oct 17 22:28 |
| sebsebseb | so uhmm | Oct 17 22:28 |
| sebsebseb | worst case sincario Macs get even popular, with those that want both Windows 8 and Linux distro/s ? | Oct 17 22:29 |
| sebsebseb | or BSD or whatever it may be instad or as well as Linux you know | Oct 17 22:29 |
| sebsebseb | or just | Oct 17 22:29 |
| sebsebseb | buy pre installed Linux distro computers or ones with no OS and :) | Oct 17 22:29 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: tessier I think this stuff will work out in time, but the Inenret will love going on about it in the mean time | Oct 17 22:30 |
| tessier | sebsebseb: I agree. So far Linux has survived many such challenges. | Oct 17 22:30 |
| tessier | I remember the big scare over...I2C and Linux. | Oct 17 22:31 |
| sebsebseb | what's that? | Oct 17 22:31 |
| tessier | Back when I2C was invented it was proprietary and secret. | Oct 17 22:31 |
| tessier | Various bits of hardware, even keyboards and mouse, were supposedly going to I2C interfaces. | Oct 17 22:31 |
| tessier | And Linux was going to be locked out. | Oct 17 22:31 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Oct 17 22:31 |
| sebsebseb | well not even heard of l2C before | Oct 17 22:31 |
| MinceR | not I2O? | Oct 17 22:31 |
| sebsebseb | tessier: MinceR I think a lot of this stuff about secure boot and Linux, is to scare people and get page views and comments and such you know | Oct 17 22:32 |
| tessier | I'm pretty sure it was I2C. | Oct 17 22:32 |
| sebsebseb | tessier: MinceR a bit like Wayland is hyped up way early, to get people all excited about Ubuntu having Wayland in the future after 12.04 | Oct 17 22:33 |
| sebsebseb | and apparnatly it was started by some guy from Redhat as well or something | Oct 17 22:33 |
| sebsebseb | so it's not like Ubuntu even made it, but loads of people are being like WOW Ubuntu is going to get Wayland | Oct 17 22:34 |
| tessier | I think the I2C spec was leaked by someone accidentally leaving it on an FTP server or something. Then it was all over. Probably would have been reverse anyway though. | Oct 17 22:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I was just trying Ubuntu 11.10 on the live CD. If I had a spare bit of metal I'd install it, but I have to decide wheth... http://b1t.it/IxW | Oct 17 22:34 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 17 22:34 |
| MinceR | I2C is a hardware bus; I2O is an I/O specification that could have resulted in cross-platform device drivers | Oct 17 22:34 |
| MinceR | ic | Oct 17 22:34 |
| tessier | Lots of stuff in modern machines uses I2C. IPMI, temp sensors, fan speeds, etc. | Oct 17 22:34 |
| MinceR | my exposure to I2C was that some (or all?) tv tuner cards use it | Oct 17 22:34 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: I like how, you just post on Identica still a lot, but hten use disapora like a sperate site? | Oct 17 22:35 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: however I also like, well like silner just did there ^ | Oct 17 22:35 |
| sebsebseb | shows some on Identica, then finnish the rest off on disapora | Oct 17 22:35 |
| MinceR | gn | Oct 17 22:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] FBI claims to have no files on WikiLeaks, despite multiple investigations and raids. Good example of FOIA corruption. http://t.co/rbxXbWtY | Oct 17 22:37 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 17 22:37 |
| sebsebseb | tessier: MinceR The secure boot and Linux thing, isn't that mainly just FUD really? | Oct 17 22:38 |
| MinceR | i don't know | Oct 17 22:39 |
| sebsebseb | well | Oct 17 22:39 |
| sebsebseb | Fear Uncertaintiy and Doubt | Oct 17 22:39 |
| sebsebseb | and people aer all worreid and unsure about waht is going to happen | Oct 17 22:39 |
| sebsebseb | and quite a lot | Oct 17 22:39 |
| sebsebseb | so FUD? | Oct 17 22:39 |
| MinceR | Palladium was intended to be some serious crap and it was crippled by the time it made into PCs | Oct 17 22:39 |
| MinceR | but one can never know | Oct 17 22:40 |
| sebsebseb | What's Palladium? | Oct 17 22:40 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: FUD is a marketing/politics strategy | Oct 17 22:40 |
| tessier | Not sure if it is FUD or not. The Linux guys are talking it up too. | Oct 17 22:40 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: Palladium is what was rebranded as TCPA and then TC | Oct 17 22:40 |
| MinceR | and perhaps some other names too | Oct 17 22:40 |
| sebsebseb | tessier: yeah I guess it's not FUD as in all made up | Oct 17 22:40 |
| sebsebseb | ,but | Oct 17 22:40 |
| sebsebseb | well yes it's not made up, but | Oct 17 22:40 |
| tessier | If it is MS FUD it is successful FUD because we are in here FUDing ourselves by worrying about it. :) | Oct 17 22:40 |
| sebsebseb | there's a lot of opinion out there about it | Oct 17 22:40 |
| sebsebseb | and people are scared about it and uncertain | Oct 17 22:40 |
| MinceR | m$ FUDding PC makers? i don't see how that would work | Oct 17 22:41 |
| MinceR | or their own sticker? | Oct 17 22:41 |
| sebsebseb | so even if it's not what FUD Fear Uncertainity and Dbout useaulyl means when on about tech, could use those words to describe this as well, if you get what I mean? | Oct 17 22:41 |
| MinceR | could, but it would be unnecessary and confusing | Oct 17 22:41 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: oh the trolls might do a blog post about this chat | Oct 17 22:42 |
| MinceR | so what? | Oct 17 22:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Critical security hole in current version of Opera from heise !security http://goo.gl/bKZJB | !operafans | Oct 17 22:42 | |
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| MinceR | they write all sorts of misguided shit all the time | Oct 17 22:42 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: yeah indeed I guess | Oct 17 22:42 |
| sebsebseb | let them do a blog post then | Oct 17 22:42 |
| sebsebseb | quoteing us for this chat | Oct 17 22:42 |
| sebsebseb | heh heh | Oct 17 22:42 |
| MinceR | gn2 | Oct 17 22:43 |
| sebsebseb | by the way to any that might be reading this, why what's the point really? | Oct 17 22:43 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: ok then good night | Oct 17 22:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] Timer slack for slacker developers http://ur1.ca/5ff67 | Oct 17 23:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Are you a developer or a designer? Join CC & others @Mozilla Festival in London Nov 4-6! http://bit.ly/qlkTi7 #openweb | Oct 17 23:05 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://pastebin.com/SSfhvemZ | Oct 17 23:06 |
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| DaemonFC | there's the exploit, and if you look closer it appears it probably only works on Windows | Oct 17 23:06 |
| koolhead17 | schestowitz supp | Oct 17 23:09 |
| koolhead17 | sebsebseb: | Oct 17 23:10 |
| schestowitz | with croutons please :-) | Oct 17 23:10 |
| sebsebseb | koolhead17: not much, just thinking about secure boot a bit | Oct 17 23:10 |
| sebsebseb | and Mint 12 | Oct 17 23:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] BTW, gotta thank @greve, @karsten and @webmink for helping me see this important point | Oct 17 23:10 | |
| koolhead17 | sebsebseb: secure boot? | Oct 17 23:11 |
| sebsebseb | koolhead17: yeah the Windows 8 thing | Oct 17 23:11 |
| sebsebseb | and instead of BIOS thing | Oct 17 23:11 |
| sebsebseb | to do with Linux | Oct 17 23:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @qco: RT @kfogel Interesting editorial on Dennis Ritchie's legacy and the freedom to share: http://ur1.ca/5ff9m | Oct 17 23:14 | |
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| koolhead17 | sebsebseb: i dont use that thing so no idea | Oct 17 23:14 |
| sebsebseb | koolhead17: yeah, but Windows 8 computers | Oct 17 23:15 |
| sebsebseb | koolhead17: might only be able to boot up Windows 8 and nothing else | Oct 17 23:15 |
| sebsebseb | that's the whole issue | Oct 17 23:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #ICANN Takes Over Time Zone Database; Dares #Astrolabe To Sue http://goo.gl/ujbwY | Oct 17 23:15 | |
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| koolhead17 | i will beat the OEM to shit!! :) | Oct 17 23:15 |
| schestowitz | man who beat sh*t gets smelly... | Oct 17 23:17 |
| schestowitz | Confucius says... | Oct 17 23:18 |
| schestowitz | “Man who run behind car get exhausted..." | Oct 17 23:18 |
| schestowitz | “Man who run in front of car gets tired" :-) | Oct 17 23:18 |
| koolhead17 | schestowitz :D | Oct 17 23:23 |
| koolhead17 | wat to do then | Oct 17 23:23 |
| koolhead17 | :D | Oct 17 23:23 |
| koolhead17 | buy stuff from system76 guys | Oct 17 23:24 |
| koolhead17 | :D | Oct 17 23:24 |
| schestowitz | things are changing | Oct 17 23:26 |
| schestowitz | linux is preinstalled on tablets for example | Oct 17 23:26 |
| schestowitz | but microsoft is attacking with lobbyists, extortions, lawsuits, etc. | Oct 17 23:26 |
| schestowitz | So we need to fight back on that front too, not just desktops. It used to be about sub-notebooks around 2007-2009 | Oct 17 23:26 |
| koolhead17 | schestowitz what needs to be done? Dell seems to show some love to ubuntu i been told. | Oct 17 23:32 |
| koolhead17 | hey jono, nice tattoo | Oct 17 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Man who stand on toilet get high on pot | Oct 17 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 17 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Diarrhea is genetic, it tends to run in your jeans | Oct 17 23:36 |
| schestowitz | Man who wake up with dawn wounds up shaved | Oct 17 23:36 |
| schestowitz | koolhead17: tat? | Oct 17 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | and accused of throwing his hot dog through her football stadium | Oct 17 23:37 |
| koolhead17 | tht | Oct 17 23:37 |
| koolhead17 | ? | Oct 17 23:37 |
| koolhead17 | that | Oct 17 23:37 |
| schestowitz | lol football stadium | Oct 17 23:37 |
| koolhead17 | :P | Oct 17 23:37 |
| koolhead17 | hahaha | Oct 17 23:37 |
| koolhead17 | i am happy Acer user | Oct 17 23:37 |
| koolhead17 | :D | Oct 17 23:37 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin is too... | Oct 17 23:37 |
| schestowitz | Ace her | Oct 17 23:38 |
| schestowitz | didn't they sign an MS patent deal? :-( | Oct 17 23:38 |
| schestowitz | by proxy | Oct 17 23:38 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quanta_Computer | Oct 17 23:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Quanta Computer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 38.95 KB | Oct 17 23:39 |
| schestowitz | "^ "Acer Reportedly Drops Quanta as Netbook Maker, Chooses Compal, Winstron.". DigiTimes. 16. Archived from the original on 16 October 2008. Retrieved 7 February 2011." | Oct 17 23:39 |
| schestowitz | Winstron signed an MS deal | Oct 17 23:39 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft thretened litigation I assume | Oct 17 23:39 |
| schestowitz | Quanta too | Oct 17 23:40 |
| schestowitz | The Microsoft virus | Oct 17 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz doesn't respect jono's Intellectual Propertah! | Oct 17 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Oct 17 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | errr | Oct 17 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | openrespect even | Oct 17 23:41 |
| schestowitz | jono is the linux intellectual | Oct 17 23:42 |
| schestowitz | but he's no prperty of anyone | Oct 17 23:42 |
| schestowitz | jono is generally a good man, but being a man who is "out there", he'll have his share of foes too | Oct 17 23:43 |
| schestowitz | Consider how many foes Ballmer has compared to Chambers (Cisco) or Palmisano (IBM) | Oct 17 23:43 |
| schestowitz | hey, do yuo know what I've just realised? | Oct 17 23:44 |
| schestowitz | Apple doesn't have Jobs anymore | Oct 17 23:44 |
| schestowitz | I sae him in the news so much recently | Oct 17 23:44 |
| schestowitz | It felt like he was more at Apple than ever before | Oct 17 23:44 |
| schestowitz | He usre helped their PE recently | Oct 17 23:44 |
| schestowitz | *PR | Oct 17 23:44 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taipei,_Taiwane | Oct 17 23:46 |
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| schestowitz | world superpower | Oct 17 23:46 |
| schestowitz | and hard working, too | Oct 17 23:46 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philips | Oct 17 23:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Philips - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 167.33 KB | Oct 17 23:46 |
| jono | :-) | Oct 17 23:46 |
| schestowitz | They have just announced firing 5k people | Oct 17 23:47 |
| schestowitz | my dad just told me | Oct 17 23:47 |
| schestowitz | not cause they lose money | Oct 17 23:47 |
| schestowitz | but because they want MOAR | Oct 17 23:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !tzag Well hardly any left now, but good evening !Identiverse :) | Oct 17 23:47 | |
| schestowitz | "On 9 May 1940, the Philips directors learned that the German invasion of the Netherlands was to take place the following day. Having prepared for this, Anton Philips and his grandson Franz Otten, as well as other Philips family members, fled to the United States, taking a large amount of the company capital with them. Operating from the US as the North American Philips Company, they managed to run the company throughout the war." | Oct 17 23:48 |
| DaemonFC | I'd rather buy something from Taiwan than the PRC, given the choice | Oct 17 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Thomson is just a patent troll now | Oct 17 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | my dad used to work for them designing their consumer electronics stuff | Oct 17 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | but now they're just a patent troll | Oct 17 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | still riding the MP3 patent wave | Oct 17 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | as it slowly subsides | Oct 17 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | (expiring patents) | Oct 17 23:50 |
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| DaemonFC | and Chinese electronics makers license the brand names to make them sound more American | Oct 17 23:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lstench @laurelrusswurm this one is for you http://ur1.ca/5feh4 | Oct 17 23:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Publishers: What are you doing while Amazon eats your lunch? — Tech News and Analysis .::. Size~: 120.88 KB | Oct 17 23:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] just the beginning of the evening here, @sebsebseb !tzag to you :) | Oct 17 23:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Found out earlier this evening and I really do think that the right decisions have been made for !Linux !Mint 12 :). http://ur1.ca/5ffmq | Oct 17 23:57 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux Mint developers make GNOME 3 edition plans - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.76 KB | Oct 17 23:57 |
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