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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When police acts like an army, it means it is losing. http://ur1.ca/5fr0p | Oct 19 00:00 | |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: http://www.datamation.com/open-source/is-ubuntu-becoming-a-poor-mans-os-x-1.html | Oct 19 00:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Is Ubuntu Becoming a Poor Man's OS X? - Datamation .::. Size~: 69.92 KB | Oct 19 00:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Joy. PHP has decided not to run. | Oct 19 00:05 | |
| schestowitz | "Very true. Just nostalgic memories from the days when knowing to install it with the devices, network, multimedia and CD/DVD burning properly setup was a revered skill :) " | Oct 19 00:05 |
| schestowitz | http://joindiaspora.com/posts/642856 | Oct 19 00:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 19 00:05 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84646445 | Oct 19 00:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Oct-11 22:59:07 UTC - Identi.ca: When police acts like an army, it means it is losing. http://ur1.ca/5fr0p | Oct 19 00:05 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: http://identi.ca/notice/84646500 | Oct 19 00:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Oct-11 23:01:07 UTC - Identi.ca: Being "militant" [IMG] http://ur1.ca/5fr1i | Oct 19 00:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 19 00:05 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84646533 | Oct 19 00:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Oct-11 23:02:47 UTC - Identi.ca: Office Suites: LibreOffice or OpenOffice.org? http://is.gd/poPqUt #koffice if very good | Oct 19 00:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Office Suites: LibreOffice or OpenOffice.org? - Open Enterprise .::. Size~: 92.21 KB | Oct 19 00:06 |
| *DaemonFC (~ryan@ppp-69-215-15-178.dsl.sbndin.ameritech.net) has joined #techrights | Oct 19 00:07 | |
| schestowitz | http://joindiaspora.com/posts/642846 | Oct 19 00:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 19 00:07 |
| schestowitz | "Of course!" :-) | Oct 19 00:07 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: hi | Oct 19 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | hello | Oct 19 00:08 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: http://www.datamation.com/open-source/is-ubuntu-becoming-a-poor-mans-os-x-1.html | Oct 19 00:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Is Ubuntu Becoming a Poor Man's OS X? - Datamation .::. Size~: 69.92 KB | Oct 19 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | it has been on its way to that for a while | Oct 19 00:11 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: true | Oct 19 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | but they do have a real server edition | Oct 19 00:11 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: ,but read that article :D | Oct 19 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | OS X doesn't | Oct 19 00:11 |
| sebsebseb | yeah I expect Ubuntu Server is pretty good still | Oct 19 00:11 |
| sebsebseb | ,but Ubuntu for desktop and such well hmm, in recent releases | Oct 19 00:11 |
| schestowitz | October 1st we had about 28 degrees in daytime | Oct 19 00:13 |
| schestowitz | tomorrow it's 2 degrees at night. Madness | Oct 19 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2394918,00.asp | Oct 19 00:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Apple Blames Rumors for Hurting iPhone Sales Over the Summer | News & Opinion | PCMag.com .::. Size~: 101.4 KB | Oct 19 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | 46 mow | Oct 19 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | 45 tonight | Oct 19 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | 51 tomorrow | Oct 19 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | *now | Oct 19 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | not too bad | Oct 19 00:15 |
| schestowitz | Apple excuses | Oct 19 00:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] no, just the bios chip. Or perhaps if that doesn't work perhaps we all donate a bunch to the fsf and they work out something w/ lemote | Oct 19 00:15 | |
| DaemonFC | I handle the cold a lot better than the heat | Oct 19 00:15 |
| schestowitz | just put on a sweater | Oct 19 00:15 |
| schestowitz | That's what I always said | Oct 19 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | my landlord told me I was crazy because I had my fan in the window last night | Oct 19 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | it was close to freezing | Oct 19 00:16 |
| schestowitz | I can go through the winter without switching on the heaters (there are three of them in my house | Oct 19 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | it costs a fortune to heat | Oct 19 00:16 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: you *are* crazy | Oct 19 00:16 |
| schestowitz | but not because of the fan | Oct 19 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | I never keep it above 60 | Oct 19 00:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Wall St. trembling before the weapons of the weak ; the view from Pakistan http://t.co/9NlasjPG #ows | Oct 19 00:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] please note that this is less than likely ;) | Oct 19 00:17 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 19 00:17 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I can imagine you'd wear a hoodie | Oct 19 00:17 |
| schestowitz | You did wear one before | Oct 19 00:17 |
| DaemonFC | I have some | Oct 19 00:17 |
| schestowitz | You can retain heat for insulation from the outside | Oct 19 00:17 |
| schestowitz | to heat my house it would take a lot of energy | Oct 19 00:17 |
| DaemonFC | I can't stand sweaters | Oct 19 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | I still have a few I got for Christmas 10 years ago that I've never worn | Oct 19 00:18 |
| schestowitz | the room I work in right now is big and it's connected to a corridor, so I have to warn up a large area for just one person (I am the only resident here) | Oct 19 00:18 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: what did your brother get your mom? Sweater, no? | Oct 19 00:18 |
| schestowitz | You mom probbaly bought you Playboy | Oct 19 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Oct 19 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | http://money.cnn.com/2011/10/18/news/economy/cain_999_plan/ | Oct 19 00:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 84% would pay more under Cain's 9-9-9 tax plan - Oct. 18, 2011 .::. Size~: 61.93 KB | Oct 19 00:19 |
| schestowitz | "I'm trying to help, son" | Oct 19 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | The Sim City 4 defaults don't work in real life | Oct 19 00:19 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I got a guy by the way telilng me that Identica will close | Oct 19 00:19 |
| sebsebseb | bruce | Oct 19 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | this guy should go back to making nasty gas station pizza | Oct 19 00:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | what, seriously? | Oct 19 00:20 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: and apparnatly he found out from Identica as well | Oct 19 00:20 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: to me? | Oct 19 00:20 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: but why? | Oct 19 00:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | then where the hell am I going to repost links?! | Oct 19 00:20 |
| schestowitz | too much spam to deal with? | Oct 19 00:20 |
| sebsebseb | I hope it's just a remour | Oct 19 00:20 |
| sebsebseb | I really like Identica | Oct 19 00:20 |
| schestowitz | probably | Oct 19 00:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | it better be a fucking rumor | Oct 19 00:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | or Im curbstomping some fucker | Oct 19 00:20 |
| sebsebseb | ,but they ahve lost a lot of users to Googlehype for example | Oct 19 00:20 |
| schestowitz | maybe it will become community-run | Oct 19 00:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | g+ is doa | Oct 19 00:21 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: true,but... | Oct 19 00:21 |
| sebsebseb | Linux Outlaws went to Googlehype | Oct 19 00:21 |
| sebsebseb | and so on | Oct 19 00:21 |
| schestowitz | they also put a lot of effort into rebuilding the platform | Oct 19 00:21 |
| schestowitz | and they got some sponsor (ABC) IIRC | Oct 19 00:21 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: what you mean doa? | Oct 19 00:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | dead on arrival | Oct 19 00:21 |
| schestowitz | Google+ is just putting a profile on searchers | Oct 19 00:21 |
| schestowitz | And adding metadata to it | Oct 19 00:21 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: oh? | Oct 19 00:21 |
| schestowitz | by the USERS themselves | Oct 19 00:21 |
| schestowitz | And they make a 'social' spyware from that | Oct 19 00:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @langdonw: Nate Silver's estimate of total number at #OWS protests in US, Oct. 15: 70,000 http://t.co/3Y6Gd7Pp | Oct 19 00:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 19 00:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: its not that theres anything wrong with that | Oct 19 00:22 |
| schestowitz | They already link people's profiles to search habits and searches | Oct 19 00:22 |
| schestowitz | Chrome makes it worse | Oct 19 00:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | its just that... well... I dont give a fuck what other people think., | Oct 19 00:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | so why the fuck pollute google with that trash | Oct 19 00:22 |
| schestowitz | identica slowed down considerably | Oct 19 00:23 |
| schestowitz | less participation | Oct 19 00:23 |
| sebsebseb | which can be good | Oct 19 00:24 |
| sebsebseb | as well really | Oct 19 00:24 |
| sebsebseb | for those of us who actsaully go through our time line a lot | Oct 19 00:24 |
| sebsebseb | less dents that aern't of interest that way :D | Oct 19 00:24 |
| *Diablo-D3 goes back to coding | Oct 19 00:24 | |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: true | Oct 19 00:28 |
| schestowitz | I was very much hooked on it at the end of last year and uin Jan-Feb. | Oct 19 00:28 |
| schestowitz | It had very good and high signal to noise ratio, also high absolute signal | Oct 19 00:28 |
| schestowitz | I could get a lot of my news from there... | Oct 19 00:29 |
| schestowitz | hmm... | Oct 19 00:29 |
| DaemonFC | No Hitlers yet, just a pizza guy*, a Mormon, and a governor that claimed Texas should consider seceding from the union. Give it a few years? | Oct 19 00:29 |
| schestowitz | how prolific is glyn now? | Oct 19 00:29 |
| DaemonFC | *(The pizza guy did play Sim City though, so we should consider him for his years of experience fending off Godzilla) | Oct 19 00:29 |
| DaemonFC | -me to dad | Oct 19 00:29 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I can get quite a lot of my news from there mainly from you, and Glynmoody, and sometimes from Diablo-D3 even | Oct 19 00:29 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: yep that's right I sometimes go on your links that appear on Identica | Oct 19 00:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | oh gee thanks >_> | Oct 19 00:29 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84646755 | Oct 19 00:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Oct-11 23:25:15 UTC - Identi.ca: Microsoft Windows Phone Sales Dismal in the First Year; Stock Awaits Earnings http://is.gd/90EgMH #microfail | Oct 19 00:30 |
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| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: uh meant it? | Oct 19 00:30 |
| sebsebseb | seemed a bit like sarcasm? | Oct 19 00:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | you should click them all! | Oct 19 00:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | o/~ identica-mon! o/~ | Oct 19 00:30 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: nope I try to only go on stuff that interests me from Identica | Oct 19 00:30 |
| sebsebseb | ,but trying not to do this anymore, but somtiems I keep on clicking links to stuff that won't erally | Oct 19 00:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] We have for 9 months been working on a new idea for mass movements. If you are very good with Python or animation tweet #projectANNEAL | Oct 19 00:32 | |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: sometimes you link to stuff I find of interest | Oct 19 00:32 |
| DaemonFC | [19:31] <DaemonFC> We have credible evidence from British intelligence that Godzilla is planning an attack from his underwater lair, possibly with chemical, nuclear, and biological weapons. Here's Colin Powell to demonstrate with Godzilla could do with a little bit of anthrax.... | Oct 19 00:32 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: as far Linux Outaws Fabsh guy moving to Linux Outlaws, well he said some dents about that before | Oct 19 00:32 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: how he cares about userbase, more than freedom, or wahtever it was | Oct 19 00:33 |
| sebsebseb | moving to Google+ / Googlehype I meant above | Oct 19 00:33 |
| cubezzz | some web pages actually max out my cpu | Oct 19 00:34 |
| cubezzz | I didn't notice that before... but I put up a small cpu monitor on the bsd box | Oct 19 00:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | so? | Oct 19 00:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | unless you mean it STAYS pegged after a few seconds | Oct 19 00:34 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: some webpages, or at times, may make my Fierfox really slow | Oct 19 00:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | then you have a potential issue | Oct 19 00:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | sebsebseb: slow is a bad description | Oct 19 00:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | firefox still does not have the UI disconnected from the workers | Oct 19 00:35 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: ok my computer barely useable? | Oct 19 00:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | its not multithreaded usefully | Oct 19 00:35 |
| cubezzz | no, I mean it goes to near 100% usage and stays there until I change the web page | Oct 19 00:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: wtf, thats either a browser bug or a page bug | Oct 19 00:35 |
| cubezzz | must be | Oct 19 00:35 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: altough this is with the FIrefox 3.6 series at the moment when it happens, yep using Firefox 3.6 series again, since the distro veriosn I am on at the moment | Oct 19 00:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | yeah, dont use 3.6 | Oct 19 00:35 |
| sebsebseb | anyway that every six weeks | Oct 19 00:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | its too old | Oct 19 00:35 |
| sebsebseb | and a new Firefox | Oct 19 00:35 |
| sebsebseb | thing is stupid | Oct 19 00:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | 3.6 is missing a shitload of js engine performance increases | Oct 19 00:35 |
| sebsebseb | it's also stupid that they dropped support for Firefox 4.0 really, soon after it was released | Oct 19 00:36 |
| sebsebseb | after all the hype about it and everything | Oct 19 00:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | sebsebseb: well no | Oct 19 00:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | there was no 4.0 | Oct 19 00:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | its really 3.7 | Oct 19 00:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | same with 5, 3.8, etc etc | Oct 19 00:36 |
| sebsebseb | someone wanted to put Firefox 4,0 in a company, and he had it tested, but | Oct 19 00:36 |
| cubezzz | I think it's the ads or something | Oct 19 00:36 |
| sebsebseb | had to stay with firefox 3.6 since it lost support | Oct 19 00:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: then use adblock noob. | Oct 19 00:36 |
| cubezzz | that article on secure boot for example | Oct 19 00:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | sebsebseb: erm, 3.6 no longer has support | Oct 19 00:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | firefox does NOT support old releases period | Oct 19 00:37 |
| sebsebseb | I think Mozilla releasing Firefox and Thunderbird every six weeks is, because they got money now and a lot, and want to spend it some how | Oct 19 00:37 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: Firefox 3.6 does have supoprt | Oct 19 00:38 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: untill next year actsualley | Oct 19 00:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] "Bruno Nogueira na Grande Entrevista" - LADO B - YouTube #funny | Oct 19 00:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] "Bruno Nogueira na Grande Entrevista" - LADO B - YouTube #funny http://ur1.ca/5frbp | Oct 19 00:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: "Bruno Nogueira na Grande Entrevista" - LADO B - YouTube .::. Size~: 85.74 KB | Oct 19 00:38 |
| sebsebseb | !google Is FIrefox 3.6 still supported | Oct 19 00:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Mozilla Firefox 3.6 | http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all-older.html | Oct 19 00:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Does Mozilla Firefox have a lifecycle policy, end of support dates ... | http://support.mozilla.com/questions/809817 | Oct 19 00:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Firefox - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox | Oct 19 00:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Firefox 3.6 Still More than Two Times as Popular as Firefox 4 ... | http://news.softpedia.com/news/Firefox-3-6-Still-More-than-Two-Times-as-Popular-as-Firefox-4-219130.shtml | Oct 19 00:39 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: quite sure it's still supported | Oct 19 00:39 |
| sebsebseb | it's Firefox 3.5 that isn't supported anymore | Oct 19 00:39 |
| *bluebomber (~michael@pool-96-228-145-90.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) has joined #techrights | Oct 19 00:40 | |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: schestowitz personally I think from like user features and such point of view, that are seen, that Firefox is quite rubbish really after Firefox 3.6, under the hood though the rendering engine Gecko of course things have improved and probably by a lot | Oct 19 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | [19:37] <DaemonFC> klh: I believe that the two biggest threats to America are Godzilla and Homosexuals | Oct 19 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | [19:38] <DaemonFC> maybe not in that order | Oct 19 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | [19:38] <DaemonFC> because that's what Jesus told me | Oct 19 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | [19:38] <klh> ur bigotry ills me | Oct 19 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | [19:38] <DaemonFC> but the Homosexuals are probably not busy stockpiling anthrax | Oct 19 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | [19:38] <DaemonFC> but they do tempt God to send Godzilla with anthrax to smite us | Oct 19 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | [19:38] <DaemonFC> :) | Oct 19 00:41 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: schestowitz For now I can still use Firefox 3.6 and with it still being supported as far as I know, but when that stops, maybe I'll just end up using Seamonkey as my main brwoser. | Oct 19 00:41 |
| sebsebseb | don't really the interface for Chromium or Chrome | Oct 19 00:41 |
| sebsebseb | and Opera hmm | Oct 19 00:41 |
| sebsebseb | Opera is ok, but hmm | Oct 19 00:41 |
| sebsebseb | don't really like, above | Oct 19 00:42 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: DaemonFC Diablo-D3 Firefox is like Ubuntu these days really, not as good as it used to be! | Oct 19 00:43 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: ^ | Oct 19 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | Firefox is a Windows application | Oct 19 00:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @laurelrusswurm Serialization of my debut novel !InconstantMoon is complete; now the whole novel can be read online START here: http: ... | Oct 19 00:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Election Year http://ur1.ca/5frda good vlogger, ignore the appearance | Oct 19 00:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Election Year - YouTube .::. Size~: 106.13 KB | Oct 19 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | with an inferior port to Linux and OS X | Oct 19 00:43 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: yeah Firefox does run better on Windows really I guess | Oct 19 00:43 |
| sebsebseb | with Flash and what not anyway | Oct 19 00:44 |
| DaemonFC | the Linux and OS X versions never perform as well as the Windows version | Oct 19 00:44 |
| sebsebseb | I can't think of me running FIrefox on Windows resulting in my computer becoming barely useable | Oct 19 00:44 |
| DaemonFC | they concentrate a lot of their performance work to target Microsoft API that is not available on other systems | Oct 19 00:44 |
| sebsebseb | me running Firefox on a Linux distro with Flash installed, and then sometimes the computer becoming barefly useable, yep that's happended quite a lot of times really | Oct 19 00:44 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: Oh? | Oct 19 00:44 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, look at the new Firefox Azure graphics backend | Oct 19 00:45 |
| sebsebseb | Firefox is also really for home users, one fo the like lead developers has made it quite clear, that they don't really care about business users. | Oct 19 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | it replaces Cairo on Windows builds and runs canvas much more smoothly | Oct 19 00:45 |
| sebsebseb | not sure hat Azure is, but sounds familur | Oct 19 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | their hardware acceleration is targeted at DirectX | Oct 19 00:45 |
| sebsebseb | Cairo? canvas? | Oct 19 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | they have abroken OpenGL backend for it for Linux | Oct 19 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | which hangs Firefox, crashes X, or leaks memory like a sieve | Oct 19 00:46 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: I think I did read before about how loads of the Mozilla developers were Windows users really even. | Oct 19 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | unless you use an Nvidia card with the binary driver | Oct 19 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | I'm really disappointed with them | Oct 19 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | Opera and even Chrome have gotten their shit together on Linux | Oct 19 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | and Firefox is not interested | Oct 19 00:47 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: Yeah didn't I read recently here, that your now using Opera? | Oct 19 00:47 |
| cubezzz | just scrolling up and down uses 40% cpu | Oct 19 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | in Bloatzilla? | Oct 19 00:47 |
| cubezzz | 20% for firefox and 20% xorg | Oct 19 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, hehe | Oct 19 00:47 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: Firefox really does run like rubbish on Linux distros, and oh I know | Oct 19 00:48 |
| DaemonFC | sebsebseb: the OpenGL acceleration in Opera 12 alpha is a little rough | Oct 19 00:48 |
| sebsebseb | causing the computer to really slow down | Oct 19 00:48 |
| sebsebseb | become barefly useable | Oct 19 00:48 |
| DaemonFC | but olverall it works splendedly | Oct 19 00:48 |
| sebsebseb | lag like anything | Oct 19 00:48 |
| sebsebseb | hmm | Oct 19 00:48 |
| cubezzz | well at least noscript works in openbsd | Oct 19 00:48 |
| sebsebseb | at times, that was meant to be above | Oct 19 00:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 18/10/2011: Rekonq 0.8, LibreOffice vs OOo http://ur1.ca/5frfo #techrights | Oct 19 00:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] yes? | Oct 19 00:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] All of it. It started when all 16 sites went dead. I managed to get the main one back up, now it is down, and I looks like PHP is dead. | Oct 19 00:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Links 18/10/2011: Rekonq 0.8, LibreOffice vs OOo | Techrights .::. Size~: 116.36 KB | Oct 19 00:48 |
| DaemonFC | the last time Firefox had consistency on Linux and Windows was probably 2.x | Oct 19 00:48 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: cubezzz something else that annoys me since Firefox 4.0, they messed up the user agent | Oct 19 00:48 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: cubezzz used to be that it would say what distros we were running | Oct 19 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | it has drifted further apart ever since 3.0 | Oct 19 00:49 |
| sebsebseb | try and add that in now and it will just change back to how it is | Oct 19 00:49 |
| sebsebseb | saying only Linux | Oct 19 00:49 |
| cubezzz | this is 3.0.18 btw | Oct 19 00:49 |
| sebsebseb | browser user agent strings is one way to sort of mearues Linux dsitros market share | Oct 19 00:49 |
| sebsebseb | or for a site anyway | Oct 19 00:49 |
| cubezzz | no idea if latest and greatest is better | Oct 19 00:49 |
| sebsebseb | ,but if they just say Linux, can't do that | Oct 19 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | sebsebseb: It says whatever it was told to say at compile time | Oct 19 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | so distribution releases tend to add that | Oct 19 00:50 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: it's changed no longer mentiosn the distros | Oct 19 00:50 |
| sebsebseb | as I was saying | Oct 19 00:50 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: used to yes | Oct 19 00:50 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: now doesn't say the distros at all | Oct 19 00:50 |
| sebsebseb | since how Mozilla has changed stuff | Oct 19 00:50 |
| sebsebseb | that's what I am saying | Oct 19 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | Opera doesn't fall back to XRender | Oct 19 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | it has its own software acceleration system which is faster | Oct 19 00:51 |
| cubezzz | sebsebseb, if you click about firefox it tells you all that stuff | Oct 19 00:51 |
| DaemonFC | though OpernGL works well even under LLVMpipe | Oct 19 00:51 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: not anymore | Oct 19 00:51 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: as of Firefox 4.0 | Oct 19 00:51 |
| cubezzz | at least in all the versions I've used | Oct 19 00:51 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: Firefox 3.6 is the last one to do all that | Oct 19 00:51 |
| sebsebseb | and have the distros in the user agent string :D | Oct 19 00:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] hi :P | Oct 19 00:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Unless Novell wins the lawsuit against Microsoft, in which case they'll have lots of dosh. #monopoly | Oct 19 00:52 | |
| cubezzz | I compiled icecat just for fc1 | Oct 19 00:52 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: DaemonFC if you try and edit the Firefox 4.0 user agent string and add in the user agent string yourself the normal user agents editing way, it just changes back to the default as well | Oct 19 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | Opera's OpenGL backend will work fine with Mesa 7.10.3 or newer | Oct 19 00:52 |
| sebsebseb | also something else that annoys me Firefox 4.0 and I guess all later versions as well | Oct 19 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | other than that, they've only blacklisted really old proprietary drivers | Oct 19 00:52 |
| sebsebseb | can't seem to have the same webpage open more than once | Oct 19 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | the user agent changer add-on will still work with Firefox | Oct 19 00:53 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: no not quite | Oct 19 00:53 |
| cubezzz | I'm running a light wm but with a big fat browser | Oct 19 00:54 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: this distros and user agent string | Oct 19 00:54 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: it wil remove the distro if add in one self | Oct 19 00:54 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: FIrefox 4.0 pluss is very much so about staying with the default user agent | Oct 19 00:54 |
| sebsebseb | no longer shows the user agents in help > about Mozilla Firefox even | Oct 19 00:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | [07:42:35] <sebsebseb> Diablo-D3: DaemonFC Diablo-D3 Firefox is like Ubuntu these days really, not as good as it used to be! | Oct 19 00:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | ubuntu was never good, so Im not sure what you're talking about | Oct 19 00:55 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: heh | Oct 19 00:55 |
| sebsebseb | I guess | Oct 19 00:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | firefox in the past year has dropped about 1gb in memory usage | Oct 19 00:56 |
| sebsebseb | CPU useage? | Oct 19 00:56 |
| sebsebseb | RAM? | Oct 19 00:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | and before you go ZOMG 1GB?! I usually have about 300 tabs open | Oct 19 00:56 |
| cubezzz | that's nonsensical | Oct 19 00:56 |
| cubezzz | my machines don't even have 1 gig of memory | Oct 19 00:56 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: yeah bingo, with enough tabs open, and it seems espesaily if some have Flash in them, and Firefox will really slow down in a Linux distro | Oct 19 00:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | yes, and on your machines you wouldnt have 300 tabs and 12 windows | Oct 19 00:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | sebsebseb: flash isnt in firefox though | Oct 19 00:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | it uses a different process to run flash in now | Oct 19 00:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | 4.0 first added that iirc | Oct 19 00:57 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: ah ok | Oct 19 00:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | so now flash cant slow down firefox, nor bloat the process up | Oct 19 00:57 |
| sebsebseb | well I am on Firefox 3.6 again as I was saying | Oct 19 00:57 |
| sebsebseb | and yaeh they got that from Chrome | Oct 19 00:57 |
| sebsebseb | or Chromium even | Oct 19 00:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | well no | Oct 19 00:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | they didnt | Oct 19 00:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | they got it from a plugin that used to exist to do that | Oct 19 00:57 |
| cubezzz | there's no browser that's old computer friendly | Oct 19 00:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | predates chrome | Oct 19 00:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: there is | Oct 19 00:58 |
| cubezzz | except maybe lynx or links or some text only thing | Oct 19 00:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | its just not meant for desktops | Oct 19 00:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | but its not like firefox wastes memory | Oct 19 00:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | _pages_ do | Oct 19 00:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | load 300 html only pages | Oct 19 00:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | firefox isnt going to use 2gb of memory. | Oct 19 00:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | no js, no css, no images, just html 1.0, like the internet was 20 years ago | Oct 19 00:58 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: cubezzz DaemonFC I used to think Firefox was absoutly great since I first started using it with Firefox 0.8, but then Firefox 4.0 came along and I tried it and ah! | Oct 19 00:59 |
| cubezzz | Diablo-D3, a user with a firefox hotkey started up 50 instances of firefox | Oct 19 00:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | its going to use about as much memory as browsers before firefox did | Oct 19 00:59 |
| cubezzz | the computer grounded to a halt | Oct 19 00:59 |
| cubezzz | so now no more hotkey for firefox | Oct 19 00:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: yes, seeing as it wasnt meant to run multiple instances ;) | Oct 19 00:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | also, a shit computer is a shit computer, dont blame firefox | Oct 19 00:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | firefox is meant for desktops | Oct 19 00:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | older desktops _arent desktops anymore_ | Oct 19 01:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | they're about as powerful as a cell phone | Oct 19 01:00 |
| cubezzz | I bet they could have crashed any PC | Oct 19 01:00 |
| cubezzz | unless it had 8 gigs of ram | Oct 19 01:00 |
| *Diablo-D3 actually does have 8gb ;) | Oct 19 01:00 | |
| Diablo-D3 | but yeah, what Im saying is | Oct 19 01:00 |
| cubezzz | alt-ctrl-f repeats | Oct 19 01:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | websites do complex shit now | Oct 19 01:00 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: cubezzz DaemonFC I used to think Ubuntu was really great when I first started using it with the second relase in 2005, Ubuntu 5.04, and I continued thinking it was great, untill well they started patching Gnome 2 in 9.04 doing things I didn't like to it, little stuff, 9.10 some little things I didn't like, 10.04 the big ah, and so on from there. Here's the thing though I wanted it to go all main streame, I thought Ubuntu 8.10 | Oct 19 01:00 |
| sebsebseb | would have been a realy good one to go main streame for example, for people who knew how to use it and that, or for people with help from someone that did. | Oct 19 01:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | its possible to make firefox use 2gb on just one tab with a complex enough site | Oct 19 01:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats just the way it is | Oct 19 01:01 |
| cubezzz | hotkeys shouldnt repeat anyway | Oct 19 01:01 |
| cubezzz | why would anyone want that | Oct 19 01:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | its not firefox's fault | Oct 19 01:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | sebsebseb: Ive been using debian for like 15 years plus or minus | Oct 19 01:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | ubuntu is yawn. | Oct 19 01:01 |
| cubezzz | Debian is better, yes | Oct 19 01:01 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: cubezzz DaemonFC So it seems to me that certain open source software goes main streame or really trys to go main stremae, and yep ti becomes bad. Firefox being an example of open source software that went main streame and then for me went bad, and Ubuntu being an example of a distro that since they tried to make it go a bit more main streame, started becoming rather bad for me really. To much stuff by default that I didn't want, | Oct 19 01:02 |
| sebsebseb | including the new branding even in 10.04. | Oct 19 01:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | sebsebseb: but I dont agree with saying firefox is bad | Oct 19 01:02 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: well it's still better than Internet Explorer of course for example :) | Oct 19 01:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | mozilla is currently trying to make every part of firefox as efficient as possible | Oct 19 01:02 |
| sebsebseb | and Gecko has obviously improved a lot | Oct 19 01:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | they havent gone through this cycle in years | Oct 19 01:02 |
| cubezzz | the end experience is bad, even if it's not firefox's fault | Oct 19 01:02 |
| sebsebseb | ,but the actsaul user interface | Oct 19 01:02 |
| sebsebseb | and such | Oct 19 01:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | the change between 3.6 and current trunk is HUGE | Oct 19 01:02 |
| sebsebseb | and features in the brwoser itself that are seen by users | Oct 19 01:02 |
| sebsebseb | and how things are by default and all that | Oct 19 01:03 |
| sebsebseb | I much prefer old versions :) | Oct 19 01:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | javascript is a shitload faster, windows 2D accel is better, linux 2D accel actually exists now | Oct 19 01:03 |
| *magentar has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Oct 19 01:03 | |
| Diablo-D3 | sebsebseb: but thats where you get it wrong | Oct 19 01:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | browsers didnt change | Oct 19 01:03 |
| cubezzz | I mean, can I make hotkeys not repeat, and normal keys repeat? | Oct 19 01:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | the INTERNET changed. | Oct 19 01:03 |
| cubezzz | may not be possible | Oct 19 01:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | websites got bigger, more complex, more demanding | Oct 19 01:03 |
| cubezzz | some older customers have reduced manual dexerity | Oct 19 01:03 |
| cubezzz | they make a lot of mistakes | Oct 19 01:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | if you dont like it, too bad | Oct 19 01:04 |
| sebsebseb | and little things how the user agent is no longer shown in about > firefox and the thing I was on about earlier, about distros not just being able to show in it now, and that kind of thing annoys me as well quite a bit really since 4.0 | Oct 19 01:04 |
| sebsebseb | and how it seems I can't have the sam webpage open in more than one tab as wel! | Oct 19 01:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | sebsebseb: everybody ignores that | Oct 19 01:04 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: not everybody | Oct 19 01:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | like, I use iceweasel | Oct 19 01:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | it clearly says what it is | Oct 19 01:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | its 7.0.1 | Oct 19 01:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | whoopdedoo. | Oct 19 01:04 |
| sebsebseb | I want Firefox to say what distros people are running it on by default, like it used to, but nope it no longer does as of 4.0. | Oct 19 01:05 |
| cubezzz | you can compile icecat/firefox/iceweasel with stuff disabled | Oct 19 01:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | sebsebseb: but hey | Oct 19 01:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | thanks to those pages I talked about? the big bloated modern ones? | Oct 19 01:05 |
| cubezzz | might help improve the speed | Oct 19 01:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | firefox has gotten better because of them | Oct 19 01:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | a little memory leak here or there used to be never be noticed | Oct 19 01:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | but now they show up easily | Oct 19 01:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | slow code here and there didnt, and now they do | Oct 19 01:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | inefficiencies, screw ups, smelly code | Oct 19 01:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | all being grinded away between the end of 3.x and I think 9 is the last version they're grinding through | Oct 19 01:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | no project _has_ to support older versions when major bug fixing has been done, period | Oct 19 01:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | if enterprises and companies and IT departments and whatever done like it? too bad | Oct 19 01:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | go run msie or some shit then | Oct 19 01:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | chrome does the same shit, and they're even more hardcore about it | Oct 19 01:07 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: FIrefox is doing this six weeks release cycle, to compete agaisnt Chrome | Oct 19 01:07 |
| sebsebseb | it seems | Oct 19 01:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | you didnt pay for a support contract with mozilla, so they owe you _nothing_ | Oct 19 01:07 |
| sebsebseb | since Chrome/Chromium is also bumping up the version numbers like anything | Oct 19 01:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | sebsebseb: on projects that rapidly change, maybe version numbers make no sense | Oct 19 01:08 |
| cubezzz | just make the date the version number | Oct 19 01:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | I wouldnt mind seeing both chrome and firefox switch to yymm versions | Oct 19 01:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: bingo | Oct 19 01:08 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: yeah that could be a better idea really | Oct 19 01:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | problem is chrome is at like 16 now | Oct 19 01:08 |
| sebsebseb | anyway we will be on Firefox 25 at the end of 2013 at this rate, or wahtever I read, I read some article about that | Oct 19 01:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | sebsebseb: 9 | Oct 19 01:08 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: 9 to what? | Oct 19 01:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | firefox 9 | Oct 19 01:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | sometime during 2012 | Oct 19 01:09 |
| cubezzz | firefox with noscript isn't too bad | Oct 19 01:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | I suspect they may just stop at 12 | Oct 19 01:09 |
| cubezzz | I can live with it | Oct 19 01:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: noscript is too lame | Oct 19 01:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | adblock and flashblock is enough | Oct 19 01:09 |
| *sebsebseb thinks Seamonkey will become his main brwoser probably, but not just yet | Oct 19 01:09 | |
| Diablo-D3 | most of the worst js abuses are ad serving related, and most of the cpu use is flash ads | Oct 19 01:09 |
| cubezzz | well, I can whitelist certain sites | Oct 19 01:10 |
| cubezzz | it's adjustable | Oct 19 01:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | yeah, but its insane when most sites actually use js legitimately | Oct 19 01:10 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: Firefox 3.6 is no longer supported oh yeah? I haven't done security updates for a while, but as I thought, there is probably a Firefox update to install | Oct 19 01:11 |
| cubezzz | I'm at 3.6.20 on one box | Oct 19 01:11 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: so let's upgrade FIrefox from well this: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en; rv:1.9.2.22) Gecko/20110907 Mandriva Linux/1.9.2.22-0.1mdv2010.2 (2010.2) Firefox/3.6.22 | Oct 19 01:11 |
| cubezzz | it works | Oct 19 01:11 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: that's old | Oct 19 01:12 |
| cubezzz | I don't want to upgrade my browser every week | Oct 19 01:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: so what? | Oct 19 01:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | then stop using the internet | Oct 19 01:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | the internet changes every week | Oct 19 01:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | http://kottke.org/11/10/gates-ballmer-night-at-the-roxbury | Oct 19 01:15 |
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| Diablo-D3 | what is this I dont even | Oct 19 01:15 |
| cubezzz | I'm not looking :) | Oct 19 01:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | cant unseeeee | Oct 19 01:16 |
| cubezzz | I'm going to experiment with text only browsers on this one box | Oct 19 01:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] UN to release torture report on Bradley Manning | UN http://t.co/Iw2pN7xA | Oct 19 01:17 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 19 01:17 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: FIrefox 3.6 doesn't upgrade every week | Oct 19 01:17 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: getting an update like once a month or something it seems at the moment | Oct 19 01:17 |
| sebsebseb | or something like that | Oct 19 01:17 |
| cubezzz | ok, it's an exaggeration | Oct 19 01:17 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: it's not on the crazy new release cycle | Oct 19 01:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | yeah, free software gets updates | Oct 19 01:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | BOO HOO | Oct 19 01:17 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: well Firefox 3.6.22 was on 20110907 | Oct 19 01:18 |
| sebsebseb | and I am about to install 3.6.23 and i'll tell you when taht was | Oct 19 01:18 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: cubezzz that's something else used to say in the Gecko bit when that version of Firefox was from | Oct 19 01:18 |
| sebsebseb | now as of Firefox 4.0 + get something stupid in there that says 2010 something | Oct 19 01:18 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: Newer is not always better! some of us prefer older software | Oct 19 01:21 |
| sebsebseb | at times | Oct 19 01:21 |
| cubezzz | most of the time older is better | Oct 19 01:21 |
| cubezzz | look at appliances from the 50's | Oct 19 01:21 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: Why you think that? | Oct 19 01:21 |
| cubezzz | a lot of them still work | Oct 19 01:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | sure, and when you can get old copies of the internet to go with your old browser, you might have a point | Oct 19 01:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | browsers remain a special case. | Oct 19 01:22 |
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| cubezzz | nvidia video cards run at 82C at idle | Oct 19 01:23 |
| cubezzz | example of new == bad | Oct 19 01:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: uh, no. | Oct 19 01:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | no, they dont | Oct 19 01:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | unless it has a broken fan | Oct 19 01:23 |
| sebsebseb | Hi _Goblin | Oct 19 01:23 |
| _Goblin | hi | Oct 19 01:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | dont get me wrong, I hate nvidia with everything I have | Oct 19 01:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | but they dont idle at 82c. | Oct 19 01:24 |
| cubezzz | Diablo-D3, this one did | Oct 19 01:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | then its broken | Oct 19 01:24 |
| cubezzz | fan was spinning | Oct 19 01:24 |
| cubezzz | possible | Oct 19 01:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | sure the manuf didnt fuck up mounting the heatsink? | Oct 19 01:24 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: Interseting aritlce and no probably not quite what your expecting going by the title: http://www.datamation.com/open-source/is-ubuntu-becoming-a-poor-mans-os-x-2.htm | Oct 19 01:24 |
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| sebsebseb | http://www.datamation.com/open-source/is-ubuntu-becoming-a-poor-mans-os-x-2.htm | Oct 19 01:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 404 Not Found | Oct 19 01:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | they idle around 40c depending on box temp | Oct 19 01:24 |
| sebsebseb | http://www.datamation.com/open-source/is-ubuntu-becoming-a-poor-mans-os-x-2.html | Oct 19 01:24 |
| cubezzz | I suggested a radeon card | Oct 19 01:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Is Ubuntu Becoming a Poor Man's OS X?: Page 2 - Datamation .::. Size~: 67.64 KB | Oct 19 01:24 |
| sebsebseb | http://www.datamation.com/open-source/is-ubuntu-becoming-a-poor-mans-os-x-2.html | Oct 19 01:24 |
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| Diablo-D3 | also | Oct 19 01:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | if ubuntu was a poor mans osx | Oct 19 01:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | that'd mean ubuntu got better. | Oct 19 01:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | and it didnt. | Oct 19 01:25 |
| _Goblin | wow...what a revelation: | Oct 19 01:25 |
| _Goblin | "Within the tech space, I'd found that Ubuntu has received a lot more press in recent years than other distributions of Linux. For example, a fair percentage of the time you're reading about Ubuntu, " | Oct 19 01:25 |
| _Goblin | well Id never noticed that | Oct 19 01:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | _Goblin: I did | Oct 19 01:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | infact Ive bitched about it | Oct 19 01:25 |
| _Goblin | ;) | Oct 19 01:25 |
| _Goblin | yes we know | Oct 19 01:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | although MOST of that is just "zomg unity is fucking shit, its even worse than gnome shell" | Oct 19 01:26 |
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| _Goblin | god bless datamation and their statement in the bloody obviour | Oct 19 01:26 |
| _Goblin | *s | Oct 19 01:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | so Im not sure if negative publicity is still publicity | Oct 19 01:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | btw, I tried gnome 3 + gnome shell the other day | Oct 19 01:26 |
| _Goblin | well suffice to say, Datamation take a more pragmatic look at Ubuntu | Oct 19 01:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | HOLY FUCKING SHIT IS IT BAD | Oct 19 01:26 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: you reading the article? | Oct 19 01:27 |
| _Goblin | yep | Oct 19 01:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | I couldnt apt-get remove --purge fast enough | Oct 19 01:27 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: yep you are :D | Oct 19 01:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | it was almost as bad as kde4 | Oct 19 01:27 |
| _Goblin | "taking place all over the Web, it doesn't take long to realize the only person you need to convince of a particular platform's merits is yourself." | Oct 19 01:27 |
| _Goblin | well I never thought of that... | Oct 19 01:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | jesus christ, when did rick romero report on linux? | Oct 19 01:27 |
| _Goblin | I personally choose a distro thats best for somone else ;) | Oct 19 01:27 |
| cubezzz | overly complex and slow | Oct 19 01:28 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: no Gnome Shell is good | Oct 19 01:28 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: and Unity is sort of ok | Oct 19 01:28 |
| cubezzz | that's the new face of computing | Oct 19 01:28 |
| _Goblin | Its an excellent article......if only as a lesson on how to write two pages of absolutely nothing. | Oct 19 01:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | sebsebseb: the fuck it is | Oct 19 01:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | its about 9000 fucking steps behind my xfce desktop | Oct 19 01:28 |
| _Goblin | Oh yes it is.... | Oct 19 01:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | if gnome shell is good, then xfce hands out free blowjobs. | Oct 19 01:29 |
| _Goblin | thats doesn't make Unity unappealing to others just because you like Xfce | Oct 19 01:29 |
| cubezzz | I'm using icewm + parts of xfce | Oct 19 01:29 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: well then as I was saying earlier when it came to Firefox and such, Newer is not always better | Oct 19 01:29 |
| cubezzz | using xfce4-clipman | Oct 19 01:29 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: there we go then, we have an example, of something that for you isn't better | Oct 19 01:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | sebsebseb: gnome3 isnt newer | Oct 19 01:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | its a completely unrelated product | Oct 19 01:29 |
| _Goblin | Diablo-D3: that comment was a little dodgy.... | Oct 19 01:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | its not gnome version 3, its gnome3 version 1. | Oct 19 01:29 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: Gnome 3 is the new Gnome, bye bye Gnome 2 no longer supported, but quite a lot of distros will still provide | Oct 19 01:29 |
| sebsebseb | plus that mate fork and such | Oct 19 01:29 |
| _Goblin | Diablo-D3: not sure, sexual gratification and a DE should be put into the same sentence. | Oct 19 01:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | _Goblin: you have not seen my desktop background. | Oct 19 01:30 |
| _Goblin | I shudder.... | Oct 19 01:30 |
| cubezzz | he's got you there :) | Oct 19 01:30 |
| _Goblin | true... | Oct 19 01:30 |
| _Goblin | although.... a wallpaper is pretty generic to any DE...we were talking about Xfce specifically | Oct 19 01:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | just kidding, its a giant NASA galaxy wide shot, split in roughly 2/3rds, the bigger part on my monitor, the smaller part on my laptop | Oct 19 01:31 |
| _Goblin | hey....whatever floats your boat...I'm not here to judge | Oct 19 01:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | it looks awesome when I minimize everything | Oct 19 01:31 |
| cubezzz | icewm for me, but I try everything | Oct 19 01:32 |
| cubezzz | and I give gnome3 the thumbs down also | Oct 19 01:32 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: cubezzz Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110928 Mandriva Linux/1.9.2.23-0.1mdv2010.2 (2010.2) Firefox/3.6.23 | Oct 19 01:32 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: See been quite a while since the Firefox 3.6.22 update | Oct 19 01:32 |
| sebsebseb | . | Oct 19 01:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/Messier_81_HST.jpg | Oct 19 01:33 |
| cubezzz | but what happens when all the distros go to gnome3? | Oct 19 01:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | heh, Im sorry, its split right in half | Oct 19 01:33 |
| cubezzz | then it's back to roll your own | Oct 19 01:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | the OTHER one I was using I split in 2/3rds | Oct 19 01:33 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: Which was on 20110907 as I said earlier, so over a month before the Firefox 3.6.23 update | Oct 19 01:33 |
| _Goblin | KDE....alternatively... | Oct 19 01:33 |
| _Goblin | I must admit.....its kind of becoming the norm for me now. | Oct 19 01:34 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: not every week :D and yeah I know you were exagerating earlier | Oct 19 01:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | I hate kde so much | Oct 19 01:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | I swear | Oct 19 01:34 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: in PC Linux OS? | Oct 19 01:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | Im just going to code my own goddamned DE | Oct 19 01:34 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: or what distro you on at the moment? | Oct 19 01:34 |
| cubezzz | KDE 3.5.10 was OK | Oct 19 01:34 |
| _Goblin | 4.6.5 is what I'm running...Ive had no issues | Oct 19 01:34 |
| sebsebseb | in which distro? Sabayon? | Oct 19 01:35 |
| cubezzz | at least if you write your own DE or WM you'll be happy with it | Oct 19 01:35 |
| _Goblin | appart from the silly convoluted way its has its settings.....but Ive already ranted... | Oct 19 01:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Oct 19 01:35 |
| _Goblin | no not sabayon | Oct 19 01:35 |
| sebsebseb | PC Linux OS? | Oct 19 01:35 |
| _Goblin | since I want Xfce and keep an eye on another distro and KDE....Ive two partitions...One sabayon one PCLinuxOS | Oct 19 01:36 |
| cubezzz | I'll probably go with icewm + xfce4 in the future | Oct 19 01:36 |
| cubezzz | mwm was too primitive, even for me | Oct 19 01:36 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: Ok, but I thought PC Linux OS would have been using KDE 4.7 by now hmm. | Oct 19 01:36 |
| _Goblin | both are rolling releases..so I can easily keep up to date with both distro's/de's | Oct 19 01:36 |
| _Goblin | nope | Oct 19 01:36 |
| _Goblin | not yet | Oct 19 01:36 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: ah yes they delay stuff like that, if they don't think it's stable enough yet | Oct 19 01:36 |
| sebsebseb | they delayed KDE 4.6 a bit if I remember correctly | Oct 19 01:37 |
| sebsebseb | and then had to basically start over with all settings | Oct 19 01:37 |
| cubezzz | is there a distro that comes with xfce as the default? | Oct 19 01:37 |
| sebsebseb | when upgrading to it | Oct 19 01:37 |
| _Goblin | just double checked....its still 4.6.5 | Oct 19 01:37 |
| sebsebseb | KDE settings, well for the desktp and such | Oct 19 01:37 |
| sebsebseb | think it remembered like for example Konversaiton stuff | Oct 19 01:37 |
| _Goblin | Wolvix? | Oct 19 01:37 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: anyway yeah Linux distros, differnet vrsions of the kernel, and the desktop envrionemnts and so on | Oct 19 01:38 |
| sebsebseb | ,but in general] | Oct 19 01:38 |
| sebsebseb | most Desktop Linux distros are quite similar really | Oct 19 01:38 |
| sebsebseb | I guess | Oct 19 01:38 |
| cubezzz | ah, based on slackware | Oct 19 01:38 |
| sebsebseb | that are stil being made now | Oct 19 01:38 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: surely you can run KDE in Sabayon though? | Oct 19 01:38 |
| cubezzz | sebsebseb, yes but I like to try Plan 9 and the BSDs too | Oct 19 01:38 |
| sebsebseb | it's in the repos I guess? | Oct 19 01:38 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: ,but sure PC Linux OS is one of the distros people would go to for a good KDE expereince, same for Mageia | Oct 19 01:39 |
| cubezzz | Plan 9 is so different it will warp your brain | Oct 19 01:39 |
| sebsebseb | and well maybe it's changed a bit now for Mandriva, but still known for a good KDE expereince, but now the rosa stuff in that one so hmm | Oct 19 01:39 |
| _Goblin | sebsebseb: I can, but like I said earlier, I want to keep an eye on another distro too... | Oct 19 01:39 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: right, but why not run PCLOS with Gnome 2 as well for example, it's there in the repos and such | Oct 19 01:39 |
| _Goblin | because Ive moved from Gnome 2 | Oct 19 01:40 |
| sebsebseb | if I am running a distro, I tend to try it all really, Gnome, KDE, and XFCE, and maybe LXDE, and such | Oct 19 01:40 |
| sebsebseb | altough for some reason it took me quite a while before I tried out LXDE in Mandriva | Oct 19 01:40 |
| _Goblin | Im not interested in Gnome 3 so theres nothing to keep an eye on as far as Im concerned with Gnome | Oct 19 01:40 |
| sebsebseb | uh XFCE I mean, above | Oct 19 01:40 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: yeah, but PCLOS is on Gnome 2 still as I was saying | Oct 19 01:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | ahh | Oct 19 01:41 |
| _Goblin | Ive the KDE edition. | Oct 19 01:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | I found the full size shot! | Oct 19 01:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | http://imgsrc.hubblesite.org/hu/db/images/hs-2007-19-a-full_tif.tif | Oct 19 01:41 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: and they are going to actsaully make it so users can have both install Gnome 2 and Gnome 3, and let them switch between, altough it seems Mint want to do something like that, by using the mate fork hmm | Oct 19 01:41 |
| _Goblin | sebsebseb: there would be little point in having KDE Sabayon and Xfce Sabayon if I want to not only watch two DE's but two distro's too. | Oct 19 01:41 |
| sebsebseb | Mint is going to say with Gnome 2.32 for now as well | Oct 19 01:41 |
| sebsebseb | and they are helping work on mate, and | Oct 19 01:41 |
| sebsebseb | they will provide a Gnome 3.2 version as well | Oct 19 01:42 |
| sebsebseb | and this is really Monday's news, but I think you might have missed it or something | Oct 19 01:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/archive/releases/2007/19/image/a/ | Oct 19 01:42 |
| sebsebseb | they also need more donations really | Oct 19 01:42 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: cubezzz anyway _Goblin not likeing Gnome 3, is another example, of the kind of thing we were talking about ealrier to do with FIrefox, newer not always being better, and sometiems people prefering older software | Oct 19 01:43 |
| sebsebseb | well ok he's moved on from Gnome 2 to XFCE, but would prefer Gnome 2 over Gnome 3, and well | Oct 19 01:43 |
| sebsebseb | XFCE is quite Gnome 2 like, GTK and all that, some of the icons are the same really and all that | Oct 19 01:44 |
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| sebsebseb | and yeah XFCE is the new Gnome 2 for quite a lot of people now really | Oct 19 01:44 |
| _Goblin | sebsebseb: nothing to stop you using Gnome icons | Oct 19 01:44 |
| sebsebseb | however really XFCE is a old project that's been around for years and years | Oct 19 01:44 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: yep that's what I just said, that can use Gnome icons in XFCE | Oct 19 01:44 |
| _Goblin | that makes it mature | Oct 19 01:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | xfce was the new gnome 2 before gnome 3 was even thought of, dude. | Oct 19 01:44 |
| _Goblin | i think Xfce is ver 4.7...released March this year. | Oct 19 01:44 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: plus not sure how, but can some how get the Gnome 2 weather feature in XFCE and use that even. | Oct 19 01:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | hell, the first version of xfce predates gnome 2 | Oct 19 01:45 |
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| _Goblin | I think as more people migrate, it will benefit development of Xfce | Oct 19 01:45 |
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| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: maybe so, but there was a Gnome 1, and XFCE uses GTK, so I assume Gnome was first | Oct 19 01:45 |
| _Goblin | and I can see many going the Xfce way | Oct 19 01:45 |
| cubezzz | gnome wasn't first | Oct 19 01:45 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: What? | Oct 19 01:45 |
| cubezzz | there was twm and mwm before gnome | Oct 19 01:46 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: What about GTK then? Gnome Toolkit | Oct 19 01:46 |
| sebsebseb | XFCE uses GTK | Oct 19 01:46 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: I meant before XFCE | Oct 19 01:46 |
| sebsebseb | Gnome was before XFCE right? | Oct 19 01:46 |
| cubezzz | intial release was march 1999 | Oct 19 01:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | BWHAHAHA | Oct 19 01:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | gtk | Oct 19 01:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnome toolkit | Oct 19 01:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | lawlz | Oct 19 01:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | GIMP toolkit. | Oct 19 01:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | yes, THAT gimp. | Oct 19 01:47 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: ah yeah that's a point | Oct 19 01:48 |
| sebsebseb | it's Gimp not Gnome isn't it? | Oct 19 01:48 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: also the Gnome channels are on gimpnet | Oct 19 01:48 |
| sebsebseb | for IRC | Oct 19 01:48 |
| cubezzz | wiki says Olivier Fourdan started xfce in 1996 | Oct 19 01:48 |
| cubezzz | so it seems xfce is actually older | Oct 19 01:48 |
| sebsebseb | so XFCE was before Gnome? | Oct 19 01:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | what, seriously? | Oct 19 01:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | xfce just became more awesome | Oct 19 01:48 |
| cubezzz | it seems so | Oct 19 01:48 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: heh I think I know why your saying that | Oct 19 01:49 |
| sebsebseb | and in a way maybe so | Oct 19 01:49 |
| sebsebseb | ,but why did Gnome become much more popualr than XFCE? | Oct 19 01:49 |
| sebsebseb | If XFCE was first? | Oct 19 01:49 |
| cubezzz | xfce was originally xforms common environment | Oct 19 01:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | because people suck. | Oct 19 01:49 |
| sebsebseb | Since Ubutnu went with Gnome 2? | Oct 19 01:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | sebsebseb: uh, dude | Oct 19 01:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | I had gnome 2 installed in debian before ubuntu existed. | Oct 19 01:49 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: ok, but Ubuntu is the most popular Desktop Linux distro | Oct 19 01:49 |
| sebsebseb | and has been for the past few years really | Oct 19 01:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | most popular my dick | Oct 19 01:50 |
| sebsebseb | well PC Linux OS was apparnatly more popular for a while in like 2007 | Oct 19 01:50 |
| sebsebseb | and OpenSuse used to be popualr | Oct 19 01:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | ubuntu can blow it out their ass | Oct 19 01:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | fucking losers | Oct 19 01:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | debian has more boxes than any other distro period | Oct 19 01:50 |
| _Goblin | thats not very nice... | Oct 19 01:50 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: like it or not, it's the most popular distro right now | Oct 19 01:50 |
| cubezzz | window managers predate Linux itself | Oct 19 01:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | ubuntu doesnt even come close | Oct 19 01:50 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: you mean since Unix, I assume? | Oct 19 01:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | the internet runs on debian | Oct 19 01:50 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: no it don't | Oct 19 01:51 |
| cubezzz | Ultrix had the first X window system | Oct 19 01:51 |
| sebsebseb | it runs on many differnet OS's | Oct 19 01:51 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: including dum de dum Windows | Oct 19 01:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | debian. | Oct 19 01:51 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: also Slackware is the oldest Linux distro that is still made today | Oct 19 01:52 |
| sebsebseb | not Debian | Oct 19 01:52 |
| DaemonFC | it's close | Oct 19 01:52 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: yeah by about three months or something? | Oct 19 01:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | not quite | Oct 19 01:52 |
| cubezzz | people still patch 2.11BSD | Oct 19 01:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | they showed up at the same time | Oct 19 01:53 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: no there's like three months in between or something like that, I think? | Oct 19 01:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | 3 months is the same time in my book | Oct 19 01:53 |
| sebsebseb | well like it or not | Oct 19 01:53 |
| sebsebseb | Slackware is still older | Oct 19 01:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | I think you missed the point | Oct 19 01:53 |
| cubezzz | you want old? :) | Oct 19 01:53 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: same year, but Slackware is still older | Oct 19 01:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | and slackware hasnt changed in 9000 years anyhow | Oct 19 01:53 |
| cubezzz | Unix system 5 :) | Oct 19 01:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | it still the unmaintainable pile of shit it ever was | Oct 19 01:54 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: we want old? well isn't that why we have you here partly? heh just joking :D | Oct 19 01:54 |
| cubezzz | Yggdrasil was before slack | Oct 19 01:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | WANT OLD? YARGHDRASIL | Oct 19 01:54 |
| cubezzz | right :) | Oct 19 01:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | it wasnt even really a distro | Oct 19 01:54 |
| cubezzz | and there might have been a couple before that even | Oct 19 01:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | it was just a pile of binaries | Oct 19 01:55 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: Yggdrasil yeah read about that one a bit before, but well that died, so Slackware is the oldest distro that is still maintained today | Oct 19 01:55 |
| sebsebseb | also didn't know Yggdrasil was before Slackware | Oct 19 01:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | slackware and debian were both started to fill the gap left by yggdrasil | Oct 19 01:55 |
| cubezzz | Dec 1992 | Oct 19 01:55 |
| cubezzz | I have a timeline going back to 1974 | Oct 19 01:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | only 74? | Oct 19 01:55 |
| sebsebseb | uh, but the Linux kernel didn't get open sourced untill 1993 I thought? | Oct 19 01:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | sebsebseb: wrong choice of words | Oct 19 01:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | it didnt exist until 92. | Oct 19 01:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | it was always open source | Oct 19 01:56 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: no apparnatly the Linux kernel started off as cloused source even, but hten Linus released it under the GPL | Oct 19 01:56 |
| sebsebseb | later on | Oct 19 01:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | sebsebseb: depends how you define closed source | Oct 19 01:56 |
| cubezzz | I've even run Unix v5 on a emulator | Oct 19 01:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | linus merely didnt chose a license yet | Oct 19 01:56 |
| sebsebseb | also apparnatly to begin with for Desktp Linux, most of the apps were closed source, but then loads of open source altenraives came along | Oct 19 01:56 |
| cubezzz | that's the oldest I've tried | Oct 19 01:56 |
| sebsebseb | so yeah Netscape and that kind of thing for the closed stuff | Oct 19 01:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | what desktop linux | Oct 19 01:57 |
| cubezzz | what wm did yggdrasil use? | Oct 19 01:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | just because you had X doesnt mean you had a desktop | Oct 19 01:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: none | Oct 19 01:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | it didnt even have X iirc | Oct 19 01:57 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: that's not what Desktop Linux means | Oct 19 01:57 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: it means something you can run on a PC or lap top basicalely | Oct 19 01:57 |
| cubezzz | Diablo-D3, nah it had X | Oct 19 01:57 |
| sebsebseb | and that isn't a server OS | Oct 19 01:57 |
| sebsebseb | or something like that | Oct 19 01:57 |
| cubezzz | I have the source on one box | Oct 19 01:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | sebsebseb: but linux has no difference between the two | Oct 19 01:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | linux is linux is linux | Oct 19 01:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | no matter what I run it on, or what I run it for | Oct 19 01:58 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: Ubuntu, Mandriva, Mageia, Mint, PC Linux OS, Sabayon, etc etc, are Desktop Linux distro's, but take Ubuntu for example that can be a server OS as well, Ubuntu Server Editon | Oct 19 01:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | ubuntu is a desktop distro | Oct 19 01:58 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: and there's roboitic Linux | Oct 19 01:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | debian is just debian. | Oct 19 01:58 |
| sebsebseb | and embbeded LInux | Oct 19 01:58 |
| sebsebseb | and such as well | Oct 19 01:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | sebsebseb: yes, and all linux | Oct 19 01:58 |
| sebsebseb | and Android which uhmm | Oct 19 01:58 |
| sebsebseb | well | Oct 19 01:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | its silly to say linux is anything but linux. | Oct 19 01:58 |
| cubezzz | X goes way back | Oct 19 01:58 |
| cubezzz | even Ultrix had X | Oct 19 01:58 |
| sebsebseb | Android apparnatly is just wel the Linux kernel under GPL, and then everything else in a virtual machine under the Apache lisence or something like that | Oct 19 01:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | android is the worlds first linux that gnu/ doesnt go infront of the linux. | Oct 19 01:59 |
| sebsebseb | and GPL and Apache lisence aren't compatible | Oct 19 01:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | sebsebseb: bzzt. | Oct 19 01:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | less fud kthx. | Oct 19 01:59 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: I said apparnatly | Oct 19 01:59 |
| sebsebseb | stuff I read | Oct 19 01:59 |
| sebsebseb | correct it, if it's wrong | Oct 19 01:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | asl2 and gpl3 are compatible | Oct 19 01:59 |
| cubezzz | They even called Yggdrasil Linux/GNU/X | Oct 19 01:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | and gpl has OS-specific clauses | Oct 19 01:59 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: oh did they interesting | Oct 19 02:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | linux's gpl-ness doesnt cross-infect programs that run on linux | Oct 19 02:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | and android is a linux distro, its not "a kernel and a vm" | Oct 19 02:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | its just a very unique distro | Oct 19 02:00 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: Android is comemrcial really as well | Oct 19 02:01 |
| cubezzz | Yggdrasil used X11R6 | Oct 19 02:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | but commercial doesnt conflict with open source. | Oct 19 02:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | even RMS has spoken about that FUD | Oct 19 02:01 |
| sebsebseb | Ubuntu is commerical and Diablo-D3 secretly loves it :d | Oct 19 02:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | sebsebseb: sorry, Im not into Africans. | Oct 19 02:02 |
| cubezzz | wow, what the heck is gwm | Oct 19 02:02 |
| cubezzz | some ancient wm | Oct 19 02:02 |
| sebsebseb | Diablo-D3: that doesn't sound very nice | Oct 19 02:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | mmm swedish womens | Oct 19 02:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | btw no, x11r5 | Oct 19 02:03 |
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| cubezzz | this is 1994 Yggdrasil | Oct 19 02:04 |
| cubezzz | not the first version | Oct 19 02:04 |
| cubezzz | For ISA, EISA, VLB or PCI-based PCs | Oct 19 02:07 |
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| cubezzz | Linux 1.1 kernel | Oct 19 02:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | oldschool | Oct 19 02:08 |
| cubezzz | 1994 was when I first used Linux | Oct 19 02:09 |
| cubezzz | before that, it was Amiga and Xenix or Unix System V | Oct 19 02:09 |
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| cubezzz | DEC had Ultrix, but I never had a chance to use that | Oct 19 02:10 |
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| billg | hi all ... | Oct 19 02:34 |
| billg | It's DejaView all over again | Oct 19 02:34 |
| billg | Novell v. Microsoft - Day 2 - Opening Statements | Oct 19 02:34 |
| billg | http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20111018190335196 | Oct 19 02:34 |
| billg | Shestowitz? | Oct 19 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | the v. is misleading | Oct 19 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | there's something going on but this isn't a lawsuit | Oct 19 02:35 |
| billg | It's an 'antitrust trial` | Oct 19 02:36 |
| billg | And I'll have to give evidence again :( | Oct 19 02:36 |
| billg | People should purge their email at lest once a month. That's a feeture I should have included in Outlook, and patented it ... | Oct 19 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | the only good thing about Outlook 2010 is that it no longer uses Internet Explorer as an HTML renderer | Oct 19 02:39 |
| billg | Haa :), what does it use ? | Oct 19 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | the renderer included with Office 2010, which is the same one that Expression Web uses | Oct 19 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | it's more standards compliant than IE | Oct 19 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | well at least IE < 9 | Oct 19 02:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | erm | Oct 19 02:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | outlook sort of did include it | Oct 19 02:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | its called db corruption | Oct 19 02:41 |
| billg | So if you uninstall Office, Outlook breaks .. same ole same ole ... | Oct 19 02:41 |
| DaemonFC | problem with using the Trident (IE) renderer control is you could get any version of IE that happens to be installed on the system | Oct 19 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | so you could get IE 6, or you could get IE 7, 8, or 9 | Oct 19 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | the only way for them to get consistent rendering is to include a different rendering engine with Office or Expression Web | Oct 19 02:42 |
| billg | 'standards compliant` .. are you kidding .. MS makes stuff that don't work with anyone elses STUFF !!! | Oct 19 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | they make stuff that doesn't work with their own stuff | Oct 19 02:43 |
| billg | Well, I did say we gotta keep making Windows a moving target, sometimes it moves so fast even our own developers can't keep up ... | Oct 19 02:44 |
| billg | I wonder how the 'antitrust trial` will pan out ? | Oct 19 02:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | novell and microsoft will both lose, and the lawyers will win | Oct 19 02:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | isnt that how it always goes? | Oct 19 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | like in the South Park episode | Oct 19 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | where Everyone sues Everyone Else | Oct 19 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | and the only winner was the town lawyer who represented all of them | Oct 19 02:51 |
| billg | Yea, why is everyone opposed to Microsoft innovation, we only want other companies to be better, that's why we hide documentation from them ... | Oct 19 02:52 |
| DaemonFC | and sue them over things that Microsoft didn't invent? | Oct 19 02:55 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 19 02:55 |
| DaemonFC | or extended and then patented a tiny little detail so nobody could be compatible without paying up | Oct 19 02:55 |
| DaemonFC | like FAT | Oct 19 02:55 |
| DaemonFC | http://news.discovery.com/history/taxi-driver-mummy-111018.html#mkcpgn=fbsci2 | Oct 19 02:56 |
| billg | Are you a bot, I was being sarcastic ... | Oct 19 02:57 |
| billg | YOu are correct in a way, since MS virtually owns Novell (the patent consortium and the SuSE deal), it could be seen as MS suing itself :) yea ?? | Oct 19 02:59 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @anthonymarco RT@justinsb For tech geeks who don't understand #OWS: it's the 1st open-source crowd-sourced political movement | Oct 19 04:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @Asher_Wolf RT @rboiATS Lots of officers today without badges and ID, warning boys and girls we WILL police the police! #occupymelb | Oct 19 04:52 | |
| DaemonFC | Ryan was promoted to Corporal in War Commander. | Oct 19 05:29 |
| DaemonFC | Any object is a weapon when Ryan's back is against the wall | Oct 19 05:29 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 19 05:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] too tired, time to sleep; !tzag !identiverse | Oct 19 06:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Best. Abstract. Ever. http://ur1.ca/5fv5b | Oct 19 06:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[faither/@faither] They want to know how to accomplish a task and are helpless as soon as there's even minor UI change as all they know is where to click. | Oct 19 07:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Off to #ogdcamp. In 4 hours I'll be in Warsaw. | Oct 19 07:21 | |
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| iophk | "Is Patent Expert{sic}/Blogger Florian Mueller Getting Too Cozy With Microsoft? " | Oct 19 07:48 |
| iophk | http://paidcontent.org/article/419-is-patent-expertblogger-florian-mueller-getting-too-cozy-with-microsoft/ | Oct 19 07:48 |
| iophk | "The time has come for Mueller to amend the conflict of interest disclaimer on his blog and for the media to cease citing him as an impartial authority" | Oct 19 07:52 |
| DaemonFC | Florian Mueller wears a different hat every time he's interviewed | Oct 19 07:54 |
| DaemonFC | sometimes he just makes one up | Oct 19 07:54 |
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| schestowitz | "Calligra Suite is even better :D" http://joindiaspora.com/posts/643092 | Oct 19 08:03 |
| schestowitz | have not tried it yet... | Oct 19 08:03 |
| schestowitz | hmmm.. | Oct 19 08:21 |
| schestowitz | is techrights under attack? flood of connections.. | Oct 19 08:21 |
| schestowitz | ok, all back under control agaim | Oct 19 08:28 |
| schestowitz | load average: 2.86, 16.90, 16.07 | Oct 19 08:29 |
| schestowitz | [05:29] <DaemonFC> Ryan was promoted to Corporal in War Commander. | Oct 19 08:29 |
| schestowitz | which game? | Oct 19 08:29 |
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| DaemonFC | War Commander | Oct 19 08:31 |
| DaemonFC | it's a Facebook thing, kind of like Command & Conquer | Oct 19 08:31 |
| DaemonFC | only against other human players | Oct 19 08:31 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Oct 19 08:31 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Someone attacked my base and damaged a few buildings before my forces could wipe them out | Oct 19 08:36 |
| DaemonFC | so when I noticed this, I retaliated and destroyed everything on their base, including the radio tower :) | Oct 19 08:36 |
| DaemonFC | they won't be bothering me again for a while | Oct 19 08:37 |
| DaemonFC | you can rebuild your base and everything, but it takes time | Oct 19 08:37 |
| DaemonFC | you can declare war or alliances in the game | Oct 19 08:38 |
| DaemonFC | it's a nice little time waster | Oct 19 08:38 |
| schestowitz | "I love Zenwalk, it's a wonderful little distro. I stopped using it when they stopped supporting gnome and I ran in to some outdated/missing packages issues. I can't really imagine myself using anything other than arch now... still, I miss Zenwalk sometimes though. " | Oct 19 08:40 |
| schestowitz | http://joindiaspora.com/posts/642827 | Oct 19 08:40 |
| DaemonFC | Zenwalk uses XFCE now I think | Oct 19 08:41 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: http://venturebeat.com/2011/09/13/kixeyes-war-commander-brings-real-time-strategy-to-facebook-gaming/ | Oct 19 08:45 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_fx4100_bulldozer&num=2 | Oct 19 08:53 |
| DaemonFC | ouch | Oct 19 08:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Google and Samsung Unveil "Galaxy Nexus" with Android 4.0 http://ur1.ca/5fwbq | Oct 19 09:05 | |
| MinceR | r4wr | Oct 19 09:14 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #US Blocks Chinese Company From Contract Bid: Worried #China Might Spy On US Just As US Spied On Others - http://bit.ly/oudEwP wise? | Oct 19 09:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Apache #OpenOffice.org (incubating) - http://bit.ly/qlxBax more info on the podling | Oct 19 09:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Calling all Mozilla Contributors Past & Present - http://bit.ly/pPFGos please fill out this #Mozilla Volunteer Contributor Survey | Oct 19 09:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] World’s First Vertical Forest Being Built in Milan Plus “The Cult ‘Green Building’ of the Moment” - http://bit.ly/nofgxp looks cool | Oct 19 09:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Chinese government looks to introduce real name policy for microblogs - http://tnw.co/mYlsmF #google leads the way... #china | Oct 19 09:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Piratenpartei klettert auf zehn Prozent - http://bit.ly/qUfmP0 impressive but will it last? #pirateparty #germany | Oct 19 09:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Event #oshcamp — Open Source Hardware Camp, #London - http://bit.ly/qCRFQK just a fiver - sounds like a bargain #openhardware #reprap | Oct 19 09:36 | |
| DaemonFC | as if anyone is going to call it "Apache OpenOffice.org" | Oct 19 09:37 |
| DaemonFC | that doesn't really roll off the tongue | Oct 19 09:37 |
| DaemonFC | neither does OpenOffice.org | Oct 19 09:38 |
| DaemonFC | which is why most people called it OpenOffice | Oct 19 09:38 |
| DaemonFC | this is another one of those GNU Linux things | Oct 19 09:38 |
| DaemonFC | where nobody is going to actually call it that | Oct 19 09:38 |
| DaemonFC | only I think I like Apache OpenOffice.org even less | Oct 19 09:39 |
| MinceR | the .org was there because there was a company called OpenOffice complaining | Oct 19 09:40 |
| MinceR | as for GNU/Linux, it's not "GNU Linux" | Oct 19 09:40 |
| MinceR | and GNU has a different role than Apache there | Oct 19 09:40 |
| MinceR | calling it "Apache OpenOffice[.org]" is like calling m$o "Microsoft Office" | Oct 19 09:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Just How Open Are Open Consultations, If Only Big Companies Have The Resources To Answer The Questions? - http://bit.ly/qD0TD6 any idea? | Oct 19 09:41 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: It's dead and they're worried what people are calling it | Oct 19 09:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: I spy with my little eye something beginning with a C | Oct 19 09:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @dretio bedankt! | Oct 19 09:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @bartvanbelle is meer iet voor J. Haek ;) | Oct 19 09:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Flight has a delay of 1 hour | Oct 19 09:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @aardling dat is wat ik altijd zeg over windows ;) | Oct 19 09:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Google: Nexus S and Other Gingerbread Devices Will Get Ice Cream Sandwich http://ur1.ca/5fwpl | Oct 19 09:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] indeed | Oct 19 10:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Major Loophole Remains in Net Neutrality Resolution - http://bit.ly/rueKaO issue of congestion #netneutrality | Oct 19 10:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Claude #Debussy: Complete Works by Lesure Numbers - http://bit.ly/pEO2I5 24 hours of non-stop Deb: what a feast #spotify | Oct 19 10:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Reactions From #SEOs Come Loud, Fast & Often Angry To #Google’s Switch To Encrypted Search - http://selnd.com/qJYNz1 gosh, what a surprise | Oct 19 10:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] sorry, in what way is that weird? | Oct 19 10:45 | |
| DaemonFC | I may go get coffee and doughnuts for breakfast | Oct 19 10:46 |
| DaemonFC | feels like one of "those" days coming on | Oct 19 10:46 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: #EU-Presidency E-Communications conference in Warsaw about to start, keynote by @NeelieKroesEU #spectrum #r http://p.ost.im/p/eMVAvV | Oct 19 10:50 | |
| schestowitz | HP telephone support has rather cumbersome. | Oct 19 10:55 |
| schestowitz | TBH, I had to spend over an hour with them this morning | Oct 19 10:55 |
| schestowitz | Their reps hardly speak English | Oct 19 10:55 |
| schestowitz | Some speak too quietly for me to hear | Oct 19 10:55 |
| schestowitz | Some don't understand unless I speak very slowly | Oct 19 10:56 |
| schestowitz | And so something which should have been simple required many phonecalls | Oct 19 10:56 |
| schestowitz | It's like each rep knows just one trick | Oct 19 10:56 |
| schestowitz | And this is why they have so many extensions in the maze | Oct 19 10:56 |
| schestowitz | Each one is like a small brain compartment | Oct 19 10:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Can't look now: finding film online - http://bit.ly/qa5gFt useful if depressing analysis of availability of films in UK | Oct 19 10:56 | |
| schestowitz | TBH, BT seems to be the same | Oct 19 10:56 |
| schestowitz | Very high staff turnover... so not much time to develop skills unless it's escalated to a manager | Oct 19 10:57 |
| DaemonFC | Opera just released a security update | Oct 19 11:06 |
| DaemonFC | 11.52 | Oct 19 11:06 |
| DaemonFC | and a new 12.0 build | Oct 19 11:06 |
| DaemonFC | according to the changelog, that issue did affect unix | Oct 19 11:07 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.opera.com/docs/changelogs/unix/1152/ | Oct 19 11:07 |
| DaemonFC | they managed to fix it a day after the proof of concept code was released | Oct 19 11:08 |
| DaemonFC | good response time | Oct 19 11:08 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft would make you wait until the second Tuesday of next month usually | Oct 19 11:09 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84654856 | Oct 19 11:11 |
| DaemonFC | http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2011/10/19/new-opera-labs-release-with-getusermedia-and-opera-reader | Oct 19 11:11 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I decided to use Opera Link so it doesn't matter what version of what I use, they end up synchronized anyway | Oct 19 11:12 |
| DaemonFC | without that it's a pain to have test builds and stable builds installed side by side because they all want their own profiles | Oct 19 11:12 |
| DaemonFC | of course, Firefox and Chrome give you the exact opposite, if you use a nightly, dev, whatever, it will use your normal profile but if it corrupts it, it's gone everywhere | Oct 19 11:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Time to Rebel on #Copyright? - http://bit.ly/qvYBD4 well, I think you know the answer to that... #abundance #scarcity | Oct 19 11:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @wayneborean This is really a WTF situation: M$ now owns what remained from Novell. How can this go on ? | Oct 19 11:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ah, I see...yes, that's true - but I think this is partly about keeping government eyes off searches | Oct 19 11:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] On Ecclesiastes and Pornography: Filtering “pornography” without any way to define what it is can only harm our ... http://wmk.me/n3W1Xd | Oct 19 11:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The point of interviewing is to find out what someone thinks. Is the widespread use of closed questions the best way to do this? #journalism | Oct 19 11:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Tzag identizens. | Oct 19 11:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I may have stretched the definition of closed question a bit. "isn't it?", "does it" "hasn't it" etc... #journalism | Oct 19 11:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] An economist asked whether he sold his shares in 2007 said "No, but I predicted I should have done" #funny | Oct 19 11:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Interesting to see the BBC quoting Twitter during a live news broadcast as breaking news. | Oct 19 11:40 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Opera sent me a survey link | Oct 19 11:56 |
| DaemonFC | It asked to mention features I didn't like, and I entered "Bing" | Oct 19 11:56 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 19 11:56 |
| MinceR | forgot "nonfree licensing"? | Oct 19 11:57 |
| DaemonFC | Where did I first hear about Opera? I think it was download.com back in the 90s when it was shareware | Oct 19 11:57 |
| DaemonFC | under Which OS do you use, they still list Windows 98 (I believe the Windows build only stopped supporting Windows 98 with Opera 11) | Oct 19 11:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] It's not unusual for people to follow short term interests at the expense of the future don't confuse this with this rationalism !capitalism | Oct 19 12:00 | |
| DaemonFC | but I understand you can still use current versions with "KernelEx" | Oct 19 12:00 |
| DaemonFC | though I doubt many 13 year old PCs have the hardware to run modern web browsers | Oct 19 12:00 |
| DaemonFC | Firefox with one tab uses more memory than Windows 98 | Oct 19 12:00 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: Why exactly is Opera being closed source a problem? | Oct 19 12:03 |
| DaemonFC | they're not a patent troll | Oct 19 12:03 |
| DaemonFC | they don't violate and extend standards unilaterally | Oct 19 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | they don't impose DRM | Oct 19 12:04 |
| MinceR | they get some features late or not at all | Oct 19 12:04 |
| MinceR | they're in the danger of becoming stale of the parent company dies | Oct 19 12:04 |
| MinceR | s/of/if/ | Oct 19 12:05 |
| DaemonFC | what features doesn't the current version have? | Oct 19 12:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK Government departments neglect Contracts Finder procurement portal - http://bit.ly/pt3vt6 that didn't take long #procurement | Oct 19 12:05 | |
| DaemonFC | version 12 alpha is the only Linux browser with working hardware support | Oct 19 12:05 |
| DaemonFC | *hardware aceleration | Oct 19 12:05 |
| MinceR | do they have support for extensions already? | Oct 19 12:06 |
| DaemonFC | the second point is correct, but it's not like it's the only web browser | Oct 19 12:06 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure I could go back to using Bloatzilla Bloated Bloat | Oct 19 12:06 |
| MinceR | also, try running opera on say, MIPS | Oct 19 12:06 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Yes, they do | Oct 19 12:06 |
| DaemonFC | the extensions can be written in HTML 5, CSS, and Javascript | Oct 19 12:06 |
| MinceR | sounds fishy | Oct 19 12:06 |
| DaemonFC | it's not | Oct 19 12:06 |
| DaemonFC | they're not as good as Firefox, but they are better than Chrome's | Oct 19 12:07 |
| MinceR | also, try auditing software without having access to the source code; try fixing secholes without being allowed to redistribute it | Oct 19 12:07 |
| MinceR | last time i checked it wasn't exactly difficult to better at it than chrome | Oct 19 12:07 |
| MinceR | s/bet/be &/ | Oct 19 12:07 |
| DaemonFC | also, Opera has to check each extension to make sure it isn't malware | Oct 19 12:07 |
| DaemonFC | some really bad shit has wound up on Firefox's add-on site | Oct 19 12:08 |
| MinceR | ah, walled garden, how nice | Oct 19 12:08 |
| DaemonFC | and there have been instances of extensions attacking each other | Oct 19 12:08 |
| DaemonFC | like noscript v. adblock plus | Oct 19 12:08 |
| DaemonFC | Mozilla doesn't do anything to make sure extensions aren't malicious | Oct 19 12:08 |
| MinceR | i'm running both and somehow the house still hasn't burned down | Oct 19 12:08 |
| DaemonFC | by anything I mean, next to nothing | Oct 19 12:08 |
| DaemonFC | well, I'm only saying that Mozilla add-ons isn't trustworthy just because an extension is hosted there | Oct 19 12:09 |
| DaemonFC | and a Firefox extension becomes part of Firefox and able to manipulate anything it likes | Oct 19 12:09 |
| DaemonFC | sometimes that is good | Oct 19 12:09 |
| DaemonFC | sometimes it is bad | Oct 19 12:09 |
| DaemonFC | it is a powerful cross platform application framework, and by applications, that can include malicious software | Oct 19 12:10 |
| DaemonFC | spyware, extensions attacking others | Oct 19 12:10 |
| DaemonFC | modifying the browser with spamlinks to replace text on any webpage | Oct 19 12:10 |
| DaemonFC | like some have done, which apparently does not go against Mozilla policy | Oct 19 12:10 |
| DaemonFC | having a powerful extension system is only good as long as you only install good extensions | Oct 19 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | and that brings me to the next point | Oct 19 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | most extensions for Firefox are not free and open source | Oct 19 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | in fact, a lot of them don't even list a license | Oct 19 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | Mozilla's add-on policy leaves much to be desired | Oct 19 12:12 |
| DaemonFC | frankly I think they do their users a disservice by making them believe an add-on from that site can be trusted to do what it says it will | Oct 19 12:12 |
| MinceR | well, if being able to install bad extensions/applications is bad, let me point you to iOS | Oct 19 12:12 |
| MinceR | it has what you want | Oct 19 12:12 |
| MinceR | i'll stick with my general-purpose computing | Oct 19 12:12 |
| DaemonFC | you don't need Opera's blessing to install an add-on | Oct 19 12:13 |
| DaemonFC | you only need it to host your add-on on their add-on site | Oct 19 12:13 |
| DaemonFC | so you know nothing there is malicious | Oct 19 12:13 |
| MinceR | and i don't think that mozilla makes a user believe an add-on is trustable when it pops up a window telling you to install only extensions you trust and not even letting you proceed before a few seconds have passed | Oct 19 12:13 |
| DaemonFC | I happen to agree with Opera here | Oct 19 12:13 |
| DaemonFC | there's nothing nefarious going on | Oct 19 12:14 |
| MinceR | btw, there is a place where known good extensions are hosted, it's called a package repository | Oct 19 12:14 |
| DaemonFC | they're weeding out malware and things that can interfere with the user's ability to use the browser | Oct 19 12:14 |
| DaemonFC | right, so why don't you complain about those? | Oct 19 12:14 |
| DaemonFC | after all, someone has to approve a package before it goes into a Linux distribution | Oct 19 12:15 |
| DaemonFC | clearly this is evil | Oct 19 12:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] OpenData & Étalab : La guerre française des licences s’achève ! - http://bit.ly/pHxPtM new "licence ouverte" #opendata #france | Oct 19 12:15 | |
| DaemonFC | Fedora is obviously a walled garden | Oct 19 12:15 |
| DaemonFC | just like Apple | Oct 19 12:15 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 19 12:15 |
| MinceR | you obviously mistake me for someone else | Oct 19 12:15 |
| DaemonFC | I'm pointing out how ridiculous the argument is that just because Opera doesn't want to become host to malware and piss poor extensions, doesn't mean they're being evil | Oct 19 12:16 |
| DaemonFC | it means, they don't want malware and piss poor extensions | Oct 19 12:16 |
| DaemonFC | and, I don't blame them | Oct 19 12:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks/Assange supporter Naomi Wolf arrested at #OWS | Gothamist http://t.co/Vnm0EqkD | Oct 19 12:16 | |
| DaemonFC | the extension system you're rooting for seems to be more like the software installation system on Windows | Oct 19 12:17 |
| DaemonFC | and look what that did :) | Oct 19 12:17 |
| DaemonFC | there's nothing wrong with having a trusted software repository and then if the user wants to go out and find some random software to run and feels like they can trust it, then let them | Oct 19 12:18 |
| DaemonFC | I wish Mozilla would do something like that | Oct 19 12:18 |
| DaemonFC | because being on their add-on site means very little | Oct 19 12:19 |
| DaemonFC | it's better than going to some random website and hoping for the best, but jsut barely | Oct 19 12:19 |
| DaemonFC | even if the intention isn't malicious, the add-on can still be crap | Oct 19 12:19 |
| DaemonFC | Mozilla's site is rife with extensions that leak memory, delay the browser starting up, cause crashes.... | Oct 19 12:20 |
| DaemonFC | and this rapid update nonsense is only making it worse | Oct 19 12:20 |
| DaemonFC | they're automatically flagging extensions compatible that nobody has tested even though the API has changed | Oct 19 12:20 |
| DaemonFC | fun | Oct 19 12:20 |
| DaemonFC | iirc, schestowitz is one of the people sticking to Firefox 3.6 and hoping they support it long enough to come to their senses and release a long term support version or something | Oct 19 12:22 |
| DaemonFC | this is after a long line of lunacy from Mozilla's employees | Oct 19 12:22 |
| DaemonFC | like suggesting you can trust Bing with your privacy | Oct 19 12:22 |
| DaemonFC | and telling corporate Firefox users to fuck off | Oct 19 12:22 |
| DaemonFC | "Yay, when the crash reports start pouring in, we'll know what extensions really weren't compatible!" | Oct 19 12:24 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.ghacks.net/2011/10/19/opera-11-52-security-update/ | Oct 19 12:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Australia's former top judge, Justice Michael Kirby: WikiLeaks has made the world a more just and transparent place http://t.co/xSyy9iDJ | Oct 19 12:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I have just had a scam phone call from someone who could hardly speak english. "Problem with your MS software please be with computer" | Oct 19 12:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @raffiwriter: The Obama administration classified 77 million documents last year, a 40 percent increase from the previous year: http: ... | Oct 19 12:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] You brought up religion... What religion would you be if you were born in India? #chance | Oct 19 12:51 | |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/ohnewein/statuses/126536840739164160 | Oct 19 12:55 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: yeah | Oct 19 12:55 |
| schestowitz | re firefox 3/.6 | Oct 19 12:55 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] trmanco: Check Google+ statistics for Tony Manco at http://t.co/fsiWUgxU via @socialstatistic | Oct 19 12:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] That is uncertain :) I think that because we can't comprehend the universe it does not mean we should rely on allegory. | Oct 19 13:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Assange: 327 days detained, no charge. WikiLeaks: 331 days blockade, no process. Manning: 513 days detained, no trial. http://t.co/cFIdfbcW | Oct 19 13:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] WTF! Paypal blocking donations to Diaspora?!? ♻ @slargentina: Paypal congela la cuenta de Diaspora http://ur1.ca/5fsv6 | Oct 19 13:06 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Paypal congela la cuenta de Diaspora | Software libre, tecnología y más .::. Size~: 33.62 KB | Oct 19 13:07 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I think it is going to be one of those days | Oct 19 13:08 |
| DaemonFC | it's cold and raining | Oct 19 13:08 |
| DaemonFC | and everything feels wrong already | Oct 19 13:08 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 19 13:08 |
| schestowitz | back in the days (around 2006) firefox had a profile management plugin for tabs | Oct 19 13:09 |
| schestowitz | so you can save and load one profile or another for sets of tabs | Oct 19 13:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @merov: Senador Roy Barreras pide archivar proyecto de ley Lleras http://is.gd/YLpyUW vamos gente sin bajar la guardia! | Oct 19 13:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] "When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny." -- Thomas Jefferson #quotes | Oct 19 13:10 | |
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| schestowitz | that vanished when firefox implemented its own mechanism for saving tabs and restaring after crashes | Oct 19 13:10 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] OK I'm giving !Ubuntu 11.10 (aka the unity beast) a real go - not giving up after a day. I'm going to try it for at least 1 week | Oct 19 13:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I have been using unity for a while now. I am getting used to it but you will probably need to tweak it a lot. | Oct 19 13:23 | |
| schestowitz | [12:07] <DaemonFC> also, Opera has to check each extension to make sure it isn't malware | Oct 19 13:24 |
| schestowitz | hard | Oct 19 13:24 |
| schestowitz | because of updates | Oct 19 13:24 |
| schestowitz | can issue secfix that is really malware | Oct 19 13:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] TeK > #Google e #Samsung revelam Galaxy #Nexus e #Android 4 http://goo.gl/RaJl7 | Oct 19 13:26 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: TeK > Notícias > Computadores > Google e Samsung revelam Galaxy Nexus e Android 4 .::. Size~: 48.58 KB | Oct 19 13:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[faither/@faither] #Paypal blocking donations to #Diaspora. ur1.ca/5fyfw ur1.ca/5fpqc !fsf !foss | Oct 19 13:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Feature film goes open source on http://straycinema.com - http://bit.ly/pgIWQ6 cool #cc by-nc-sa #cinema | Oct 19 13:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @wikileaks2: Oz's former top judge, J.Michael Kirby: WikiLeaks has made the world a more just and transparent place http://t.co/xSyy9iDJ | Oct 19 13:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @jaromil: paypal account freeze asks for proof of non-profit and tax status. dyne.org had it too, we provided documentation and unfroze | Oct 19 13:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Big RCFP special issue on WikiLeaks | RCFP http://t.co/AFtIQcro | Oct 19 13:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] The Android 4.0 SDK available http://ur1.ca/5fyi4 | Oct 19 13:36 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Android 4.0 SDK available [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 8.19 KB | Oct 19 13:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @unhosted: Translate videos from Occupy Wall Street into your native language: http://ur1.ca/5fy4v | Oct 19 13:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Occupy Wall Street | Universal Subtitles .::. Size~: 94.51 KB | Oct 19 13:40 |
| schestowitz | [13:30] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [faither/@faither] #Paypal blocking donations to #Diaspora. ur1.ca/5fyfw ur1.ca/5fpqc !fsf !foss | Oct 19 13:43 |
| schestowitz | LOL PayPal | Oct 19 13:43 |
| schestowitz | KKK A-OK | Oct 19 13:43 |
| schestowitz | Just not FOSS projects like xorg and wikileaks | Oct 19 13:43 |
| schestowitz | [lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @jaromil: paypal account freeze asks for proof of non-profit and tax status. dyne.org had it too, we provided documentation and unfroze | Oct 19 13:44 |
| schestowitz | [13:43] <flo|neo2> paypal is a pure win for the diaspora project | Oct 19 13:44 |
| schestowitz | [13:43] <at8eqeq3_> happy to help | Oct 19 13:44 |
| MinceR | a replacement for paypal is necessary | Oct 19 13:44 |
| schestowitz | is bitcoin daemonised or killed yet? | Oct 19 13:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] er, why? | Oct 19 13:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] sounds interesting, but got anything that can be seen anonymously and without flash? ♻ @glynmoody: Time to Rebel on #Copyright? | Oct 19 13:46 | |
| iophk | MinceR: there is Moneybookers. It is widely used in some countries. | Oct 19 13:46 |
| iophk | http://www.moneybookers.com/app/help.pl?s=m_shoppingcart | Oct 19 13:47 |
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| MinceR | thanks | Oct 19 13:47 |
| schestowitz | I don't see much of flattr around anymore | Oct 19 13:47 |
| MinceR | moneybookers blocked payments to wikileaks, too | Oct 19 13:48 |
| iophk | http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/oct/14/wikileaks-says-funding-is-blocked | Oct 19 13:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: WikiLeaks says funding has been blocked after government blacklisting | Media | The Guardian .::. Size~: 93.08 KB | Oct 19 13:50 |
| iophk | They're all dirty | Oct 19 13:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks and the US espionage act of 1917 | RCFP http://t.co/cs3HTwPo | Oct 19 13:51 | |
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| iophk | Flattr has a rather poor and inaccessible web site. | Oct 19 13:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @ralpost “We’re not going to subpoena reporters in the future. We don’t need to. We know who you’re talking to” bit.ly/mZi04E | Oct 19 13:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'm disappointed not to see !identicurse listed in the software manager of !Ubuntu 11.10 ? | Oct 19 13:53 | |
| schestowitz | Shane O'Neill | Oct 19 13:54 |
| schestowitz | Assistant Managing Editor at IDG Enterprise | Oct 19 13:54 |
| schestowitz | He's a Microsoft booster | Oct 19 13:54 |
| schestowitz | Got too high up | Oct 19 13:54 |
| schestowitz | Nancy Gohring stll works for them | Oct 19 13:54 |
| schestowitz | Also a Microsoft little helper | Oct 19 13:54 |
| schestowitz | VERY shallow coverage about extortion deals | Oct 19 13:55 |
| schestowitz | Making them seem like some nice handshake | Oct 19 13:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Henrique Neto - Maçonaria on Vimeo - #PT #nwo http://ur1.ca/5fynw | Oct 19 13:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Why the world needs #WikiLeaks (video, new translations) | TED http://t.co/hAB0RdEc #TedTalks | Oct 19 13:56 | |
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| DaemonFC | I just destroyed Florian's base :) | Oct 19 13:57 |
| DaemonFC | reprisal attack | Oct 19 13:57 |
| DaemonFC | people who attack my base tend to be wiped out | Oct 19 13:57 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft Florian? | Oct 19 13:57 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Oct 19 13:57 |
| DaemonFC | no, some guy named Florian in War Commander | Oct 19 13:57 |
| schestowitz | He'll send you nastygrams now :-) | Oct 19 13:58 |
| schestowitz | I remember that shill threatening me for saying that he was lobbying for someone | Oct 19 13:58 |
| schestowitz | Recently he stayed quiet | Oct 19 13:58 |
| schestowitz | PJ hypothesised he got scared of getting caught | Oct 19 13:58 |
| schestowitz | After the Facebook fiasco | Oct 19 13:58 |
| MinceR | which fb fiasco? | Oct 19 13:59 |
| DaemonFC | and I just wiped out "Emil" | Oct 19 14:00 |
| *DaemonFC is pretty good at these games :D | Oct 19 14:00 | |
| schestowitz | Microsoft Emil? | Oct 19 14:01 |
| DaemonFC | there's a Microsoft Emil? | Oct 19 14:01 |
| schestowitz | !google techrights Microsoft Emil | Oct 19 14:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Microsoft Cannot Provide Security | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/01/04/securing-customer-system-fail/ | Oct 19 14:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Microsoft Boosters Turn Ars Technica Into Fox Technica | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/01/19/ars-technica-misdirection/ | Oct 19 14:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Microsoft Attacks Android With Software Patents, This ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/09/17/adding-bark-to-swpats-bite/ | Oct 19 14:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Boycott Amazon | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/02/23/boycott-amazon/ | Oct 19 14:01 |
| DaemonFC | so far today I've wiped out over a dozen other players | Oct 19 14:01 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: yes, he used to use Arse Technicaca to promote and advertise Microsoft viewpoints | Oct 19 14:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] OWS the strategic brilliance of facelessness | ecommercetimes http://t.co/MlgZeQ5Q | Oct 19 14:01 | |
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| DaemonFC | and I even did a looting skirmish against a carelessly placed oil supply on one of the NPC bases | Oct 19 14:02 |
| DaemonFC | too tempting :D | Oct 19 14:02 |
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| DaemonFC | Ryan Paul (from ars technica) is the one who wrote Gwibber iirc | Oct 19 14:02 |
| schestowitz | I don't think he ever left Arse, but he doesn't write there so often anymore and he has a ZDNet blog now | Oct 19 14:02 |
| DaemonFC | which is probably one of the few GNOME-ish programs I like | Oct 19 14:02 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I think that was /after/ he wrote for Arse | Oct 19 14:03 |
| DaemonFC | why is it that all the Microsoft people prefer GNOME? | Oct 19 14:03 |
| DaemonFC | is it because of Miguel? | Oct 19 14:03 |
| schestowitz | And that's when he started writing a lot less | Oct 19 14:03 |
| schestowitz | Now it's like 2 articles a week | Oct 19 14:03 |
| schestowitz | used to be several oer day | Oct 19 14:03 |
| schestowitz | *per | Oct 19 14:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] agreed; their headline, not mine...but it's a start | Oct 19 14:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] you can download it as .odp file from here: http://ur1.ca/5fyp6 | Oct 19 14:03 | |
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| DaemonFC | yeah, they post a lot of Microsoft-related crap in their open source column | Oct 19 14:04 |
| MinceR | it's the primary mono injection vector | Oct 19 14:04 |
| DaemonFC | I only glance at them now | Oct 19 14:04 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: can you support the claim about MS people favouring gnome? | Oct 19 14:04 |
| DaemonFC | I used to read them a lot more | Oct 19 14:04 |
| DaemonFC | well, the Fuduntu thing is GNOME | Oct 19 14:04 |
| schestowitz | KOffice doesn't touch OOXML, either | Oct 19 14:04 |
| schestowitz | gnumeric did | Oct 19 14:04 |
| DaemonFC | KOffice does have OOXML import filters | Oct 19 14:05 |
| DaemonFC | Koffice/Calligra | Oct 19 14:05 |
| DaemonFC | which is understandable given that the files are out there and you need to open them | Oct 19 14:05 |
| DaemonFC | but it doesn't have export filters for it, and nor should they try | Oct 19 14:05 |
| schestowitz | I think that hubert - like Meeks -- (both Novell) with Abiword too.. | Oct 19 14:05 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I like PDF, by like I mean I hate it but it's pretty universally supported | Oct 19 14:06 |
| DaemonFC | so I tend to use it a lot | Oct 19 14:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The 99% working group declaration http://t.co/Q99R0ooX | Oct 19 14:06 | |
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| DaemonFC | Microsoft has their own ripoff of PDF called XPS | Oct 19 14:07 |
| DaemonFC | XML Paper Specification | Oct 19 14:07 |
| DaemonFC | they placed it under their community promise bullshit | Oct 19 14:07 |
| DaemonFC | Okular can open them | Oct 19 14:07 |
| schestowitz | it never took off for the Vole | Oct 19 14:07 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft NIH's everything out there and makes it proprietary and dependent on Windows | Oct 19 14:08 |
| schestowitz | Last I checked they tried to pass it through the Salespeople at ECMA | Oct 19 14:08 |
| DaemonFC | which entirely misses the point of PDF | Oct 19 14:08 |
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| DaemonFC | yes, there is an ECMA standard for XPS | Oct 19 14:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] OK so I told a lie there - !identicurse is in !Ubuntu 11.10 software centre - I just haven't learn how to use the software centre properly | Oct 19 14:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] thanks; I think the best thing is just get people to understand that copyright is an intellectual monopoly: people know these are bad | Oct 19 14:08 | |
| schestowitz | ECMA is a joke | Oct 19 14:08 |
| schestowitz | Pay enough and you'll get anECMA 'standard' for toilet paper | Oct 19 14:09 |
| schestowitz | ISO is more expensive | Oct 19 14:09 |
| schestowitz | You also need to toss some people out | Oct 19 14:09 |
| DaemonFC | do they sue you if you wipe your ass without paying the patent pool? | Oct 19 14:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: Do Bell's Throttling Practices Violate CRTC's Net Neutrality Rules?: Bell Now Says P2P Congestion Declining http://t.co/RV7 ... | Oct 19 14:10 | |
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| schestowitz | you don't need to wipe | Oct 19 14:10 |
| schestowitz | you just do it in the patent pool | Oct 19 14:10 |
| schestowitz | which is full of s* anyway | Oct 19 14:10 |
| MinceR | pool's closed | Oct 19 14:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @fsf GNU/Linux Inside stickers are back and better than ever! Got yours yet? http://ur1.ca/5fqhm !gnu !fsf !lp | Oct 19 14:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] Keynote announcement: The Second Revolution of Open Source by Bruce Perens http://bit.ly/nwRKVW #LCA2012 | Oct 19 14:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: GNU/Linux Inside stickers are back and better than ever! — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 25.81 KB | Oct 19 14:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Genetic Engineering at home? The Second Revolution of open source - Keynote by Bruce Perens - linux.conf.au 2012 | 16 - 20 Jan | Under the stars .::. Size~: 20.31 KB | Oct 19 14:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @fsf "Secure Boot" is a threat. Stand up for your freedom to install free software! Sign the statement. http://fsf.org/sb !fsf !gnu !lp | Oct 19 14:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] RT @fkarlitschek Muktware interviewed me about http://ur1.ca/5fys8 #kde #owncloud | Oct 19 14:16 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Missing content type. Ignoring. | Oct 19 14:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Interview With The Creator Of ownCloud | Muktware .::. Size~: 33.16 KB | Oct 19 14:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Do not feed the #patent #troll - http://bit.ly/oVJ73z from Adam Smith Institute (v http://bit.ly/qRs7HJ) #apple #samsung | Oct 19 14:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Learn Linux, 302 (Mixed environments): Managing user accounts and groups #tips #floss #gnulinux http://goo.gl/IKMRj | Oct 19 14:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Private Copying and Fair Compensation: An empirical study of #copyright levies in Europe - http://bit.ly/r8oFRw useful study | Oct 19 14:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Learn Linux, 302 (Mixed environments): Managing user accounts and groups .::. Size~: 93.65 KB | Oct 19 14:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Comparative study of copyright levies in Europe | Centre for Intellectual Property Policy & Management | Bournemouth University .::. Size~: 19.27 KB | Oct 19 14:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Canonical, Vodafone bring #ARM-based #Ubuntu #netbook to South Africa - The H Open Source http://goo.gl/4Czvp | Oct 19 14:26 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Canonical, Vodafone bring ARM-based Ubuntu netbook to South Africa - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 41.1 KB | Oct 19 14:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Obama Has Awlaki’s 16-Yr-Old Son, Friends Killed at Dinner -- News from Antiwar.com #usa #stateterrorism http://goo.gl/D3ofz | Oct 19 14:39 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Obama Has Awlaki’s 16-Yr-Old Son, Friends Killed at Dinner -- News from Antiwar.com .::. Size~: 42.04 KB | Oct 19 14:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @glynmoody: best thing is just get people to understand that copyright is an intellectual monopoly: people know these are bad | Oct 19 14:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] sorry - if you email me at glyn.moody@gmail.com I'll send it directly... | Oct 19 14:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] yup | Oct 19 14:48 | |
| DaemonFC | they hide behind children | Oct 19 14:49 |
| DaemonFC | then complain about children being blown up | Oct 19 14:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @glynmoody: Do not feed the #patent #troll - http://bit.ly/oVJ73z from Adam Smith Institute (v http://bit.ly/qRs7HJ) #apple #samsung | Oct 19 14:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Soyuz rocket prepares for first launch from French Guiana | Science | guardian.co.uk #scitek http://goo.gl/kN1tt | Oct 19 14:54 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Soyuz rocket prepares for first launch from French Guiana | Science | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 106.15 KB | Oct 19 14:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @fsf Press Release: The danger of computers becoming Windows-only http://ur1.ca/5fd9c !gnu !fsf | Oct 19 14:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Free Software Foundation warns about the danger of computers becoming Windows-only, calls for signatures to defend the freedom to install free software — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 29.14 KB | Oct 19 14:56 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: not always | Oct 19 14:57 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC I meant | Oct 19 14:58 |
| MinceR | oh no, now you woke him | Oct 19 14:58 |
| schestowitz | Dragon's Lair | Oct 19 15:00 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon%27s_Lair | Oct 19 15:00 |
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| schestowitz | has anyone here finished it? | Oct 19 15:01 |
| DaemonFC | I had the one for NES | Oct 19 15:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Apache Cassandra NoSQL database version 1.0 released (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/r2xk2r | Oct 19 15:04 | |
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| schestowitz | http://yubanet.com/opinions/Andy-Borowitz-A-Letter-from-Goldman-Sachs-Concerning-Occupy-Wall-Street.php#.Tp2et3KGhBk | Oct 19 15:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Andy Borowitz | A Letter from Goldman Sachs Concerning Occupy Wall Street .::. Size~: 30.39 KB | Oct 19 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | I signed that letter | Oct 19 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | it's ludicrous to say a computer that can only boot Windows is secure | Oct 19 15:07 |
| schestowitz | http://mrpogson.com/2011/10/18/bill-gates-to-testify-in-novell-v-m/ | Oct 19 15:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bill Gates To Testify in Novell v M$ at Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 31.15 KB | Oct 19 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | the verified boot path thing is probably not only there to stop people from installing Linux | Oct 19 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | it probably doubles as a way to stop people from booting with an activation hack bootloader | Oct 19 15:08 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: it's safer... for Microsoff's shareholder | Oct 19 15:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @mgeist Big win at Supreme Court - court dismissed Crookes case against Jon Newton & P2Pnet.net is.gd/ZteEoI >>yay .ca | Oct 19 15:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] voted for "voted for 'recursion'" | Oct 19 15:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Investors Worth $20 Trillion Call For Urgent Action on #Climate - http://bit.ly/ozo75M will money talk? | Oct 19 15:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Saddam's meeting with US handlers in 1983 to plot war against Iran part of US gov book censorship attempt http://t.co/UGHBJtQN | Oct 19 15:16 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Investors Worth $20 Trillion Call For Urgent Action on Climate | ThinkProgress .::. Size~: 37.36 KB | Oct 19 15:16 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I just noticed the Opera blog entry where they noted that Bing was going to be added as one of the search engines | Oct 19 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | the response was overwhelmingly negative | Oct 19 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | but, Mozilla takes Microsoft's money and for some reason, it's one of Chrome's recommendations | Oct 19 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | they're cropping up everywhere, but they don't want to commit enough money to outbid Google | Oct 19 15:20 |
| MinceR | isn't this sort of deal one of mozilla's main revenue streams? | Oct 19 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | every major browser comes with a lot of useless search entries, and it's because they paid to be there | Oct 19 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, they have Amazon and Ebay and stuff like that too | Oct 19 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | so does Opera | Oct 19 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | they get a cut if you use their search entry to enter the site | Oct 19 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | URL=http://redir.opera.com/ebay/?q=%s | Oct 19 15:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Missing content type. Ignoring. | Oct 19 15:22 |
| DaemonFC | for example | Oct 19 15:22 |
| MinceR | at least they use that money to maintain one of the least crap browsers on the planet :> | Oct 19 15:22 |
| DaemonFC | Opera? :) | Oct 19 15:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] I'll be there... | Oct 19 15:23 | |
| MinceR | no, mozilla does not maintain opera | Oct 19 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | I know you don't mean Bloatzilla Bloated Bloat | Oct 19 15:23 |
| MinceR | and you're right. i meant firefox. | Oct 19 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | Firefox is being eaten by Chrome | Oct 19 15:24 |
| DaemonFC | at least if you follow the stat counter sites | Oct 19 15:24 |
| MinceR | my copies weren't | Oct 19 15:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Zend has announced a cloud for building and deploying PHP apps on other clouds, phpcloud.com (Register): http://bit.ly/qdOoLh | Oct 19 15:24 | |
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| DaemonFC | Firefox is getting better than it used to be | Oct 19 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | with Firefox 4 I'd easily have it go over 1 GB sometimes | Oct 19 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | with Firefox 9 it usually hovers around 500-600 MB | Oct 19 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | which is more than Opera, but not by an area code | Oct 19 15:26 |
| DaemonFC | Opera is usually sitting at 300-400 | Oct 19 15:26 |
| MinceR | does opera have user profile support yet? | Oct 19 15:26 |
| DaemonFC | which is still a lot but even a lot of the "small and fast" ones like Rekonq and Midori get up there | Oct 19 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | it does | Oct 19 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | at least I noticed that it did as of 11.something | Oct 19 15:27 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 19 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | a little competition never hurt anything | Oct 19 15:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] In case someone didnt see, Toshl for !MeeGo , specifically for #N9 / #N950 was released: http://t.co/WeG2HRjY | Oct 19 15:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 19 15:28 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 19 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | forces everyone to get better, they're even managing to drag Microsoft forward a bit | Oct 19 15:28 |
| MinceR | m$ doesn't need to be dragged forward though, they need to be dragged into the Recycle Bin | Oct 19 15:28 |
| MinceR | and then emptied | Oct 19 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | you mean the Trash | Oct 19 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | and then burned in defiance of civil ordinance | Oct 19 15:29 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 19 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | Opera's desktop integration has gotten really good | Oct 19 15:30 |
| DaemonFC | it mimics the environment it's in | Oct 19 15:30 |
| DaemonFC | if you run it in KDE, it acts KDE-ish | Oct 19 15:30 |
| DaemonFC | if you run it in GNOME 3, it acts like GNOME 3 | Oct 19 15:30 |
| MinceR | and if you run it on windows, it's crap? :> | Oct 19 15:30 |
| DaemonFC | if you run it in a GTK 2 environment, it respects the GTK 2 theme in use | Oct 19 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | well, on Windows it does support Aero, but it's not hard to, so why not? | Oct 19 15:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The difference between WikiLeaks & Facebook (cartoon) http://t.co/l8D2XeFj | Oct 19 15:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 19 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | they ditched Qt a while back | Oct 19 15:32 |
| DaemonFC | they had some unofficial Qt 4 builds but they finally ditched it completely | Oct 19 15:32 |
| DaemonFC | the browser renders its own interface and dialogs now with yaml | Oct 19 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | and addresses xlib itself | Oct 19 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | Firefox has always pissed me off with their bad Linux port | Oct 19 15:34 |
| MinceR | reinventing several wheels must have been fun | Oct 19 15:34 |
| DaemonFC | but it's worse if you're not using it in GNOME | Oct 19 15:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @EthanZ: Op-ed from Mutiga in the Nation argues that Kenya has gone to war in Somalia, and Kibaki needs to present a plan: http://t.c ... | Oct 19 15:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] E não sabem onde cortar!? Fundação Mário Soares… O saque prossegue! « O Vigia http://goo.gl/eqLWi | Oct 19 15:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Army’s “Spiritual Fitness” Test Comes Under Fire | Truthout #indoctrination #mic #usa http://goo.gl/0hghj | Oct 19 15:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @wikileaks2: The difference between WikiLeaks & Facebook (cartoon) http://t.co/l8D2XeFj | Oct 19 15:41 | |
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| DaemonFC | the game is kind of boring now that I've killed everyone else | Oct 19 15:55 |
| DaemonFC | *sigh* | Oct 19 15:55 |
| DaemonFC | now I have to wait for someone else to log on | Oct 19 15:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @unhosted: Don’t support companies with unethical business practices. http://ur1.ca/5fzjf | Oct 19 15:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Remember, Remember the 5th of November: BANK TRANSFER DAY | AmpedStatus .::. Size~: 90.09 KB | Oct 19 15:56 |
| DaemonFC | jono: Play War Commander so that I may kill you | Oct 19 15:56 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Oct 19 15:56 |
| jono | ? | Oct 19 15:57 |
| DaemonFC | jono: a game, on Facebook | Oct 19 15:58 |
| DaemonFC | kind of like Command & Conquer | Oct 19 15:58 |
| DaemonFC | only it's in Flash and crashes a lot | Oct 19 15:58 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 19 15:58 |
| jono | :-) | Oct 19 16:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] fiquei interessado e comecei a pesquisar sobre cooperativas de crédito e similares no Brasil http://ur1.ca/5fznq dicas? | Oct 19 16:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: Abella: "Given the core significance of the role of hyperlinking to the Internet, we risk impairing its whole functioning." | Oct 19 16:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: Justice Abella gets it exactly right - hyperlinks just references that are content neutral. Do not communicate the content. | Oct 19 16:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: Supreme Court of Canada Stands Up for the Internet: No Liability for Linking - my quick take w/key quotes http://t.co/Isd4nKT3 | Oct 19 16:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Apache Cassandra reaches foretold version 1.0 - The H Open Source #floss http://goo.gl/jclHB | Oct 19 16:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] RT @meegoexperts #Nokia #N950 Software Update (39-5) Available OTA http://mge.bz/rk #MeeGo #Harmattan | Oct 19 16:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #NI lawyer says he knew its 'rogue reporter' defence was wrong http://gu.com/p/32m8n #NOTW #Murdoch #scumbags | Oct 19 16:24 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon's_Lair_(Nintendo_Entertainment_System) | Oct 19 16:26 |
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| DaemonFC | Wii has it on Virtual Console | Oct 19 16:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Fascinating to see anti-#OWS propaganda in China. Strong fear by corrupt media of OWS spreading to China good example of system weakness. | Oct 19 16:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #FSF warns of Windows 8 Secure Boot - The H Open Source #gnulinux #uefi http://goo.gl/d6FuH | Oct 19 16:26 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/openSUSE-12-1-running-late-1362984.html | Oct 19 16:28 |
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| DaemonFC | delayed another 5 days | Oct 19 16:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Stand up for your freedom to install free software — Free Software Foundation - #FSF #floss #uefi #gnulinux http://goo.gl/uP6cP | Oct 19 16:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] My point, religion is largely a historical/geographical/political lottery. You could have been denting about Hinduism. #a.n.other_religion | Oct 19 16:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Debian-based #NAS !OpenMediaVault released - The H Open Source #flosstools #gnulinux http://goo.gl/D35BM | Oct 19 16:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Debian-based NAS OpenMediaVault released - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 41.83 KB | Oct 19 16:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Shared a post "George Lucas and his toys" http://ur1.ca/5fzyi | Oct 19 16:44 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Dave Bagnall - Google+ - George Lucas and his toys .::. Size~: 41.8 KB | Oct 19 16:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Everyone wants a guest appearance in !drwho. Florence frrom Florence And The Machine is the latest. | Oct 19 16:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @JozefColpaert: Seen this ? http://t.co/z0UYYDKf Clip on TED: http://t.co/cfwxYpsn | Oct 19 16:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !tzag and good morning !Identiverse | Oct 19 16:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] EFF is mostly o.k. with the privacy implications of Amazon's Silk browser (EFF): http://bit.ly/r9bLrw | Oct 19 16:48 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://my.opera.com/securitygroup/blog/2011/10/19/about-the-svg-font-manipulation-vulnerability-that-was-fixed-in-11-52 | Oct 19 16:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Opera Security group - About the SVG font manipulation vulnerability that was fixed in 11.52 .::. Size~: 61.87 KB | Oct 19 16:49 |
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| schestowitz | Sick browser | Oct 19 16:51 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] New spyware from #Stuxnet developers - The H Security #cyberwar #stateterrorism #usa #israel http://goo.gl/QcAOS | Oct 19 16:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Shared a post "Occupy Mordor!" http://ur1.ca/5g00w | Oct 19 16:54 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Aaron Newcomb - Google+ - Occupy Mordor! .::. Size~: 41.45 KB | Oct 19 16:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @ovigia Algo que me diz que tem dedo da M$ nesse Stuxnet... | Oct 19 16:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Tell your Representative: Demand action on #ClarenceThomas. #scotus http://identi.ca/url/55200797 | Oct 19 17:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #OccupyWallSt: Dataviz as defacement: OCCUPY GEORGE http://identi.ca/url/55209970 | Oct 19 17:01 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Tell your Representative: Co-sign Rep. Slaughter's letter demanding action on Clarence Thomas. .::. Size~: 15.89 KB | Oct 19 17:02 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !LibreOffice is diving into desktop publishig from Libre Graphics World by Alexandre http://goo.gl/u3qF1 | Oct 19 17:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Activist Post: ‘No Food Rights’ Judge quits to work for #Monsanto law firm - #gmo #crooks http://goo.gl/A48UZ | Oct 19 17:03 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Activist Post: ‘No Food Rights’ Judge quits to work for Monsanto law firm .::. Size~: 184.15 KB | Oct 19 17:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Why are they silly? They aren't based on inside jokes, have a clear pattern and are likeable. | Oct 19 17:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Ardnamurchan Viking boat burial discovery 'a first' http://identi.ca/url/55210155 !science | Oct 19 17:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BBC News - Ardnamurchan Viking boat burial discovery 'a first' .::. Size~: 73.25 KB | Oct 19 17:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Google encrypted search results (http://bit.ly/qlS2zT) in order to block out competing ad vendors (SEO Book): http://bit.ly/oDekWY | Oct 19 17:08 | |
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| neildarlow | is there an mp3 feed for the audiocast anywhere? | Oct 19 17:12 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[piracy/@piracy] New Mission for Military’s ‘Human Terrain’ Experts: Interrogation http://j.mp/pDwqtY #torture | Oct 19 17:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @StopActaNow @telecomix: Meanwhile in #Sweden: Government only invites industry to #ACTA-hearing is.gd/oJb8UD (swe)>>shameful | Oct 19 17:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Full Circle: A Brief History of #NeXT - #computerhistory http://goo.gl/des7m | Oct 19 17:14 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: New Mission for Military’s ‘Human Terrain’ Experts: Interrogation | Danger Room | Wired.com .::. Size~: 54.77 KB | Oct 19 17:14 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Blackboard announces they will enable instructors to license their courses under #CC BY: http://prn.to/rbFNza #OER | Oct 19 17:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Blackboard Launches New Open Education Initiatives -- PHILADELPHIA, Oct. 19, 2011 /PRNewswire/ -- .::. Size~: 91.35 KB | Oct 19 17:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @jxself Yet another reason to only use motherboards supported by !coreboot: http://ur1.ca/5g09j !gnu !linux !fs !floss !freedom | Oct 19 17:19 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Missing content type. Ignoring. | Oct 19 17:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Industry pays for the politicians (The real money not their nominal wages) so what do you expect? #1euroonevote | Oct 19 17:24 | |
| neildarlow | !help | Oct 19 17:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Time To Stock Up: The Price Of Peanut Butter Is Set to Soar 40% In the Next Two Weeks #preppers http://goo.gl/EhbR4 | Oct 19 17:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Homesteading Quantified: How Much Land You Need To Go Off The Grid #preppers http://goo.gl/hHWov | Oct 19 17:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Euro - The euro crisis is spreading to the "core": German bond auction fails overnight - #collapse http://goo.gl/ri0As | Oct 19 17:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] When is the last time anyone heard anyone say "It's not my bag" #language | Oct 19 17:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] ♺ @glynmoody @StopActaNow @telecomix: Meanwhile in #Sweden: Government only invites industry to #ACTA-hearing is.gd/oJb8UD (swe)« shameful | Oct 19 17:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #KDE - KDE History - #floss http://ur1.ca/5bg3e ; http://ur1.ca/5g0h7 | Oct 19 17:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Garlic will burn the eyes but gently. | Oct 19 17:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jra/@jra] From "The Register" comments: "The difference between Jobs and Ballmer is that Jobs reality distortion field pointed *outwards* " :-). | Oct 19 17:56 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: https://addons.opera.com/en/addons/extensions/ | Oct 19 17:57 |
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| DaemonFC | I'm fishing around to see what I can see :) | Oct 19 17:58 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] "There is always more misery among the lower classes than there is humanity in the higher." - Victor Hugo #quotes | Oct 19 18:04 | |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: DaemonFC MinceR sad sad http://www.pclinuxos.com/?p=1465 http://helenair.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/shooting-details-emerge/article_8a5e5de6-f6ea-11e0-b9d6-001cc4c002e0.html | Oct 19 18:06 |
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| *DaemonFC re-themes sebsebseb's desktop as Hello Kitty | Oct 19 18:06 | |
| DaemonFC | https://addons.opera.com/en/addons/extensions/details/google-images-direct/1.5/?display=en | Oct 19 18:09 |
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| *DaemonFC likes this one a lot | Oct 19 18:09 | |
| sebsebseb | jono: Are you doing your ustream today? :D | Oct 19 18:11 |
| jono | sebsebseb, yup | Oct 19 18:12 |
| sebsebseb | jono: cool :) | Oct 19 18:12 |
| *DaemonFC sets jono's theme to Hello Kitty and exploits the Unity bug that makes it impossible to set default applications via the GUI to make his default browser Dillo | Oct 19 18:12 | |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 19 18:12 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: Dillo that reminds me of last night | Oct 19 18:13 |
| sebsebseb | since I think XFCE when you say that | Oct 19 18:13 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: someones's Ubuntu 10.04 install on a computer, very slow, and as I expected all along since yep lack of RAM it seems, so got her to install Xubuntu and yep that's much faster :D | Oct 19 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | http://desireblog.de/wallpaper/iwhat_desireblog_android_1920x1080_blue.jpg | Oct 19 18:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Oct 19 18:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Buy Linux CD/DVD in India - http://linuxplate.in/ Plz Spread !! | Oct 19 18:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I'm older than Fedora so that point is false per definition. | Oct 19 18:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] World's strongest man [IMG] http://ur1.ca/5g0st | Oct 19 18:23 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 19 18:23 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: http://identi.ca/notice/84662024 | Oct 19 18:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-11 17:18:28 UTC - Identi.ca: Samsung, #Google whip out Android 4.0 Nexus http://is.gd/Ctf7yv check out the screen resolution. It's not a typo. #linux | Oct 19 18:23 |
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| schestowitz | it's like anactual standard LCD screen, palm sized | Oct 19 18:23 |
| DaemonFC | Why are you advertising Microsoft tax collectors? | Oct 19 18:24 |
| schestowitz | It's getting hard to avoid those | Oct 19 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | of course the device is spectacular | Oct 19 18:24 |
| schestowitz | HTC, LG, Samsung | Oct 19 18:24 |
| schestowitz | Motorola and Sony are the main exceptions | Oct 19 18:24 |
| schestowitz | Which deliver in large volumes | Oct 19 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | Google owns Motorola | Oct 19 18:24 |
| schestowitz | Yes, but... | Oct 19 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | guess I'll be buying a Xoom if I get a tablet | Oct 19 18:24 |
| schestowitz | Antitrust makes it conditional for now | Oct 19 18:25 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: do you *need* a tablet? | Oct 19 18:25 |
| DaemonFC | you know Google will take Microsoft to the mat before it pays them to use its own products | Oct 19 18:25 |
| DaemonFC | I did say if | Oct 19 18:25 |
| schestowitz | I like the xoom too | Oct 19 18:25 |
| schestowitz | but right now I have no use for tablets and phones | Oct 19 18:25 |
| schestowitz | I have two phones at home, it's enough | Oct 19 18:25 |
| schestowitz | I hate the sound of phones | Oct 19 18:26 |
| DaemonFC | if the tablets get to where they can do most of what a desktop PC can anyway, I may get a tablet instead of a PC next time | Oct 19 18:26 |
| schestowitz | phone rang like 30 times so far today | Oct 19 18:26 |
| DaemonFC | but I won't be looking to upgrade for a few years at least | Oct 19 18:26 |
| DaemonFC | I think the real Opera can run on Android | Oct 19 18:26 |
| DaemonFC | not just the Mini or Mobile versions | Oct 19 18:27 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Oct 19 18:27 |
| DaemonFC | that's a plus | Oct 19 18:27 |
| schestowitz | brb, need to see the news | Oct 19 18:27 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I've used Opera Mini on my phone for a couple of years now | Oct 19 18:27 |
| DaemonFC | it beats the crap out of that crap that came with my phone | Oct 19 18:27 |
| DaemonFC | that thing gives you out of memory errors as often as it actually loads a page | Oct 19 18:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Spideroak which is a more trustworthy service than most. Has kept GB's of my data 284 days after I decided to do it for myself. #impressive | Oct 19 18:28 | |
| DaemonFC | Opera does make the best mobile browsers, it's always been their main business | Oct 19 18:28 |
| DaemonFC | the whole desktop browser is something they do on the side for extra cash because their browser is incredibly portable anyway | Oct 19 18:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @ovigia Indeed... | Oct 19 18:29 | |
| DaemonFC | If Opera wouldn't work on Android then Android would be no dice for me | Oct 19 18:29 |
| DaemonFC | the mobile version of Firefox is next to useless | Oct 19 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | no plug in support | Oct 19 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | the Android Chrome-based browser is nothing special either | Oct 19 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | really the entire argument over battery life and Flash on the Apple devices is just a ruse for them eliminating a competitor without seeming anticompetitive | Oct 19 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | it's gotten to the point where every Android device commercial mentions that it can run Flash | Oct 19 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | because I guess of the stigma Crapple has made for themselves as an overpriced toy that can't view Youtube | Oct 19 18:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Humanity is a big tent not necessarily a good thing. | Oct 19 18:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] New RAM shunts data into flash in power cuts (Register): http://bit.ly/r22dEZ | Oct 19 18:34 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: New RAM shunts data into flash in power cuts • Channel Register .::. Size~: 22.22 KB | Oct 19 18:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] There's a word for a writer who never gives up… published. Joe Konrath !q http://ur1.ca/5g0uy | Oct 19 18:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] We're excited to be a part of @AnDevCon next month! Early bird deadline Friday: http://bit.ly/paxxJF #android | Oct 19 18:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: A Newbie's Guide to Publishing .::. Size~: 421.86 KB | Oct 19 18:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: AnDevCon San Francisco | Android App Development .::. Size~: 69.01 KB | Oct 19 18:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] ♺ @lamm: There's a word for a writer who never gives up… published. Joe Konrath http://goo.gl/a8qS4 | Oct 19 18:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] You are a !floss fanatic how can we believe a word you say? MS are much more trustworthy ;) | Oct 19 18:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: A Newbie's Guide to Publishing .::. Size~: 421.86 KB | Oct 19 18:38 |
| DaemonFC | my base was attacked while I was gone, they did 4% damage, they lost 33 riflemen, 3 heavy gunners, 3 flame thrower troops, 4 rocket buggies | Oct 19 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | and a partridge in a pear tree | Oct 19 18:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] ♺ @jrobb @fernandomiguel: What a difference 3 yrs can make. Or not make. #android vs #iOS http://goo.gl/1NDXO | Oct 19 18:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Fernando Miguel - Google+ - What a difference three years can make. Or not make. .::. Size~: 44.25 KB | Oct 19 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | before my defenses laid waste to them | Oct 19 18:41 |
| *DaemonFC is going to go kick their assed B-) | Oct 19 18:41 | |
| DaemonFC | *s | Oct 19 18:41 |
| *koolhead17 (~atul@unaffiliated/koolhead17) has joined #techrights | Oct 19 18:42 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84662243 | Oct 19 18:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-11 17:36:27 UTC - Identi.ca: The Future of OpenOffice.org: How Not to Write a Press Release http://is.gd/6VHpYJ indeed. #odf | Oct 19 18:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL | Oct 19 18:43 |
| schestowitz | they nuked themselves | Oct 19 18:43 |
| schestowitz | bad PR using a press release | Oct 19 18:43 |
| schestowitz | how quaint | Oct 19 18:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] It is #Tzag and evening here your timing is fortuitous. | Oct 19 18:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Nyinyi watu wa kuunda "site" zina "depend on Javascript"! Mnafaa kuchapwa kwa gunia! | Oct 19 18:44 | |
| schestowitz | "So apparently Canonical decided to name this release after a cat that dreams and pees a lot. Were they trying to send some sort of message? Interesting, I wonder if this decision was made by a particular individual or some sort of committee? Some have said that Canonical is copying Apple too much (Lion anybody?) and perhaps they have a point or two in that regard. Aaah well, it is what it is." | Oct 19 18:46 |
| schestowitz | http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2011/10/18/ubuntu-11-10/ | Oct 19 18:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu 11.10 | Desktop Linux Reviews .::. Size~: 133.12 KB | Oct 19 18:46 |
| schestowitz | They could called is Jabuntu Jabba | Oct 19 18:46 |
| schestowitz | *could have | Oct 19 18:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] No, apparently the standard is "as moronic as possible". | Oct 19 18:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Thriving or another word you are happy with. Do not tar !floss with the same proprietary brush it is replacing. | Oct 19 18:48 | |
| DaemonFC | Ryan destroyed Jurgen's base in War Commander! | Oct 19 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 19 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | one down | Oct 19 18:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Join me in a few mins for my live Ubuntu Q+A videocast at http://is.gd/vAp17e - bring your questions! #ubuntu #locoteams | Oct 19 18:49 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: At Home With Jono Bacon on USTREAM: Ramblings on community, Linux and technology from Jono Bacon.. .::. Size~: 64.15 KB | Oct 19 18:49 |
| schestowitz | http://www.techdrivein.com/2011/10/does-new-ubuntu-1110-prevent-you-from.html | Oct 19 18:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Does the New Ubuntu 11.10 Prevent You From Changing Default Apps? | Tech Drive-in .::. Size~: 44.77 KB | Oct 19 18:50 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84662394 http://identi.ca/conversation/84605415#notice-84662394 | Oct 19 18:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-11 17:46:43 UTC - Identi.ca: Thriving or another word you are happy with. Do not tar !floss with the same proprietary brush it is replacing. | Oct 19 18:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 12.64 KB | Oct 19 18:52 |
| schestowitz | I guess that a "win" though is one where people can harness freedom, not market share as "score" | Oct 19 18:52 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/84662095 | Oct 19 18:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-11 17:23:54 UTC - Identi.ca: Will Smith? | Oct 19 18:53 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/84614078 | Oct 19 18:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @The Root's Updates (rootbrian)'s status on Sunday, 16-Oct-11 21:27:51 UTC - Identi.ca: facebook bridge and also, maybe a !diaspora bridge? | Oct 19 18:53 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/#!/horaciog/status/124894445123551232 | Oct 19 18:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @horaciog: Can't think of anyone better to study the WW use of FRAND patents. The man is a walking encyclopedia! http://t.co/rX8Fx4K8 via @AddThis | Oct 19 18:54 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Oct 19 18:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 19 18:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I am with you mate. I was pulling your leg. To misquote Lenin we will give proprietary software the rope with which we will hang it. | Oct 19 18:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/84610639 | Oct 19 18:57 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft Florian... | Oct 19 18:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Florian Mueller (fosspatents)'s status on Sunday, 16-Oct-11 15:08:39 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Now that you have the transparency you hoped for, you're still not happy. I'm proud of this endorsement: http://bit.ly/pk0D3G | Oct 19 18:57 |
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| schestowitz | Now blessed by Microdoft VPs | Oct 19 18:57 |
| schestowitz | And bragging to me about it | Oct 19 18:57 |
| schestowitz | in identica | Oct 19 18:57 |
| schestowitz | Now twitter | Oct 19 18:57 |
| cubezzz | what is blessed? | Oct 19 18:57 |
| schestowitz | so that his ''followers'' don't see what a fraud he is | Oct 19 18:57 |
| schestowitz | when ht doesn't want it visible he posts in identica | Oct 19 18:57 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/84608856 | Oct 19 18:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @silner (silner)'s status on Sunday, 16-Oct-11 12:30:15 UTC - Identi.ca: MT @timbray: Florian Mueller ( @fosspatents ) being paid by Microsoft. http://t.co/5fFxVFCH So @schestowitz right all along | Oct 19 18:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 19 18:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Containers on Linux from @ORCL_Linux blogger @wimcoekaerts : http://bit.ly/oyAvFm #linux | Oct 19 18:58 | |
| schestowitz | Everyone in the Linux sites knows he's paid by MS now | Oct 19 18:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 19 18:58 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/84608024 | Oct 19 18:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Kahlil Johnson (jza)'s status on Sunday, 16-Oct-11 11:13:26 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz move on to the Apache OOo blog. They have some good info there. | Oct 19 18:58 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/84611809 | Oct 19 18:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @laurelrusswurm (laurelrusswurm)'s status on Sunday, 16-Oct-11 16:54:00 UTC - Identi.ca: Yes. And Bradley Manning is still incarcerated, while the Collateral Murderers still walk free !freeBradley | Oct 19 18:58 |
| schestowitz | "wow... I just got the DM about the evidence leakage today. Strange. Well, the evidence, except the contract itself are on a website..." | Oct 19 18:59 |
| schestowitz | Contract with MS? | Oct 19 18:59 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/84662567 | Oct 19 18:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-11 17:57:29 UTC - Identi.ca: Sorry Roy I do not like the winning; loosing #language. | Oct 19 18:59 |
| schestowitz | I see.. | Oct 19 18:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Sorry Roy I do not like the winning; loosing #language. | Oct 19 18:59 | |
| cubezzz | how about we see some OEM contracts with Microsoft via wikileaks? | Oct 19 18:59 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84662340 | Oct 19 19:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-11 17:42:38 UTC - Identi.ca: As the Desktop Changes, #Linux is Winning http://ur1.ca/5g0wv | Oct 19 19:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: 1ROXTAR: MY DESKTOP IS CHANGING .::. Size~: 60.92 KB | Oct 19 19:01 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: or techrights | Oct 19 19:02 |
| schestowitz | we have some contracts | Oct 19 19:03 |
| schestowitz | See our wiki under Comes vs Microsoft | Oct 19 19:03 |
| cubezzz | ah, I didn't know that | Oct 19 19:03 |
| cubezzz | now I'm wondering if OEMs _ever_ preloaded non-Microsoft OSes | Oct 19 19:04 |
| cubezzz | e.g. desktops | Oct 19 19:04 |
| cubezzz | there were a few | Oct 19 19:04 |
| cubezzz | looking at the compaq one now | Oct 19 19:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Wednesday http://ur1.ca/5g13v | Oct 19 19:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What's New In #Android 4.0? http://ur1.ca/5g13x #linux #os | Oct 19 19:06 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Security advisories for Wednesday [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 8.54 KB | Oct 19 19:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: What's New In Android 4.0? | Muktware .::. Size~: 36.49 KB | Oct 19 19:06 |
| cubezzz | Apr 1st, 1997 until march 31, 1998 | Oct 19 19:08 |
| cubezzz | per system royalty $2.75 | Oct 19 19:12 |
| cubezzz | office 97 small business, per system royalty = $150 | Oct 19 19:13 |
| schestowitz | "It has higher resolution than my main computer (old 12" Thinkpad) :) Hope Google releases source code of ICS soon. " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/646804 | Oct 19 19:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 19 19:13 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84662756 | Oct 19 19:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-11 18:07:31 UTC - Identi.ca: #Linux Phones Have Better Specifications Than "Apple"-branded (and Expensive) Ones http://ur1.ca/5g14q #ios | Oct 19 19:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: iPhone 4S vs Galaxy Nexus: The Better Hardware! | Muktware .::. Size~: 33.55 KB | Oct 19 19:13 |
| schestowitz | hypePhones become just hypw | Oct 19 19:13 |
| schestowitz | They have worse hardware | Oct 19 19:13 |
| schestowitz | soon you'll treat Android as the beat | Oct 19 19:14 |
| schestowitz | And iOS as the toy | Oct 19 19:14 |
| schestowitz | running on weak hardware, lacking feaures | Oct 19 19:14 |
| schestowitz | *tures | Oct 19 19:14 |
| cubezzz | "INSTALLER shall not reverse engineer, decompile or dissassemble any products" :) | Oct 19 19:14 |
| cubezzz | I'm not sure how much the per system royalty was for windows itself though | Oct 19 19:15 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84662801 | Oct 19 19:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Android is dying as a tablet OS (ExtremeTech): http://bit.ly/qQADVx | Oct 19 19:16 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ice Cream Sandwich will not save Android tablets | ExtremeTech .::. Size~: 47.67 KB | Oct 19 19:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-11 18:10:25 UTC - Identi.ca: #OpenMediaVault Runs #Debian http://is.gd/1FnK9E #storage | Oct 19 19:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Debian-based NAS OpenMediaVault released - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 41.73 KB | Oct 19 19:16 |
| koolhead17 | hi all | Oct 19 19:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The Demographics Of Occupy Wall Street (Gawker):: http://ur1.ca/5g177 | Oct 19 19:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] IcedTea 2.0 and security fixes http://ur1.ca/5g17a | Oct 19 19:19 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Demographics Of Occupy Wall Street .::. Size~: 77.05 KB | Oct 19 19:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: IcedTea 2.0 and security fixes [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 7.83 KB | Oct 19 19:20 |
| schestowitz | hi koolhead17 | Oct 19 19:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] It is like a farmer buying a bull. The bull does the specialized stuff and the farmer is quids in. | Oct 19 19:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] Hands on with Plasma Active One http://ur1.ca/5g189 | Oct 19 19:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Top 100 Items to Disappear First - #preppers http://ur1.ca/5g18a | Oct 19 19:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 302 Found | Oct 19 19:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Top 100 Items to Disappear First .::. Size~: 22.67 KB | Oct 19 19:21 |
| koolhead17 | schestowitz how are you sir? | Oct 19 19:21 |
| schestowitz | tired | Oct 19 19:21 |
| schestowitz | worked overtime this week, at least it paid well | Oct 19 19:21 |
| koolhead17 | am asking manish to comeup with article about how university and college saving on implementing FOSS in there enviornment | Oct 19 19:22 |
| cubezzz | seems there is a lot of buzz about Xfce now | Oct 19 19:22 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: yeah, I installed it too | Oct 19 19:24 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84662865 http://identi.ca/notice/84662868 | Oct 19 19:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-11 18:15:48 UTC - Identi.ca: LibreOffice's Mobile and Cloud Horizons Appear Strong http://is.gd/4prvAn #odf #opendocument | Oct 19 19:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: LibreOffice's Mobile and Cloud Horizons Appear Strong .::. Size~: 41.02 KB | Oct 19 19:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-11 18:16:13 UTC - Identi.ca: #IBM does not like #LibreOffice | Oct 19 19:24 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: on debian it's quite small | Oct 19 19:24 |
| schestowitz | and blazing fast | Oct 19 19:24 |
| cubezzz | well I only use xfce4-clipman | Oct 19 19:25 |
| koolhead17 | schestowitz i want to install XFCE too on my netbook | Oct 19 19:25 |
| koolhead17 | :D | Oct 19 19:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] http://ur1.ca/5g1ao #sip_and_click, I can't emulate the URL shortening bug on my local install | Oct 19 19:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Characterisation and stereotype suffer the same problems. | Oct 19 19:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: coffee.jezra: a coffee a day photo project | 2011-10-19 .::. Size~: 3.87 KB | Oct 19 19:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 'Reverse bribe' is when someone lobbies for a company to be rewarded *later*. See for example http://is.gd/iy558N | Oct 19 19:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Attack ODF, Get a Job at Microsoft | Techrights .::. Size~: 114.98 KB | Oct 19 19:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Making Europe the connected, competitive continent: my speech on e-Communications http:/ http://p.ost.im/p/eMXNDq | Oct 19 19:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Connecting Europe Facility: our proposals to boost broadband in Europe by €50-100 bn: http://p.ost.im/p/eMUKF8 | Oct 19 19:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 19 19:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 19 19:38 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84662969 | Oct 19 19:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-11 18:23:17 UTC - Identi.ca: Hehe. My image that I once made is used in this news article. http://is.gd/ghMQ4N #swpats | Oct 19 19:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: The Tech Curmudgeon – software patents and Samsung vs. Apple | Scholars and Rogues .::. Size~: 77.46 KB | Oct 19 19:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] thanks for the coffee btw :) | Oct 19 19:41 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.siteduzero.com/news-62-42693-p1-avec-les-brevets-logiciels-microsoft-facture-l-utilisation-de-linux.html | Oct 19 19:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Avec les brevets logiciels, Microsoft facture l'utilisation de Linux .::. Size~: 165.93 KB | Oct 19 19:44 |
| *XFaCE (~XFaCE@unaffiliated/xface) has joined #techrights | Oct 19 19:45 | |
| XFaCE | hi all | Oct 19 19:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @crosbie "The purpose of #copyright law is 'to promote the progress of science and useful arts'" - #WTF does it say that? It doesn't. ... | Oct 19 19:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] They are close. It is about assumptions. | Oct 19 19:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @xface Before the upgrade change @Crosbie joined !Identica so he is on both services | Oct 19 19:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Okay. Can't hurt :) | Oct 19 19:49 | |
| schestowitz | "Yes, I was thinking the same thing. " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/646814 | Oct 19 19:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 19 19:51 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84663345 | Oct 19 19:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-11 18:46:55 UTC - Identi.ca: The Work of the 1 Percent and the 0.1 Percent http://is.gd/IWiEwR paper-pushers, hardly any producers | Oct 19 19:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: The Work of the 1 Percent and the 0.1 Percent | (R news & tutorials) .::. Size~: 45.66 KB | Oct 19 19:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @jra: From "The Register" comments: "The difference between Jobs and Ballmer is that Jobs reality distortion field pointed *outwards*" :-) | Oct 19 19:51 | |
| schestowitz | U.S. Copyright Czar Cozied Up to Content Industry, E-Mails Show http://is.gd/KevYOf #copyright #corruption #crony | Oct 19 19:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: U.S. Copyright Czar Cozied Up to Content Industry, E-Mails Show | Threat Level | Wired.com .::. Size~: 82.85 KB | Oct 19 19:52 |
| schestowitz | RT @zoobab About Florian Mueller: "i can't read his posts, they make me want to throw things" ur1.ca/5favv | Oct 19 19:52 |
| koolhead17 | schestowitz i submitted my first patch to ubuntu :P | Oct 19 19:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #identica made some changes recently, but some features are stlll broken and getting around them is time consuming | Oct 19 19:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] How's This For Social Unrest? #collapse #wwii http://ur1.ca/5g1io | Oct 19 19:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Update on Bank of America commissioned plan to sabotage or discredit WikiLeaks | POGO http://t.co/dRz3F9Pj | Oct 19 19:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How's This For Social Unrest? .::. Size~: 173.05 KB | Oct 19 19:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 19 19:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I love http://ur1.ca/1pjxo. | Oct 19 20:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Disturbing the peace [IMG] http://ur1.ca/5g1k7 | Oct 19 20:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ur1 Generator .::. Size~: 2.26 KB | Oct 19 20:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 19 20:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #IDG is currently spamming people whom it has in some database in order to promote #Apple toys. Shameful behaviour. | Oct 19 20:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Take your Linux PC back to the future! http://is.gd/gvk8ad why? Because you can :-) | Oct 19 20:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Take your Linux PC back to the future! | Linux User .::. Size~: 50.4 KB | Oct 19 20:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Why is idedntica pointing to a url? | Oct 19 20:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] That is identica with the full stop in the right place, try for yourself. | Oct 19 20:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] http://ur1.ca/1pjxo | Oct 19 20:06 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Public timeline - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 55.25 KB | Oct 19 20:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] even if I expect it I still find it shameful... | Oct 19 20:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ha! | Oct 19 20:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] thanks, yes, interesting perspective | Oct 19 20:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Thanks @expatpaul @marjoleink I thought I was missing something. | Oct 19 20:11 | |
| *neildarlow (~neil@cpc1-bigg3-2-0-cust201.9-2.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #techrights | Oct 19 20:13 | |
| iophk | http://www.muktware.com/news/2623 | Oct 19 20:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Eric S Raymond Defends Richard M Stallman Over Steve Jobs | Muktware .::. Size~: 37.04 KB | Oct 19 20:13 |
| schestowitz | http://news.softpedia.com/news/GNOME-Shell-3-2-1-Released-228510.shtml | Oct 19 20:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: GNOME Shell 3.2.1 Released - Softpedia .::. Size~: 44.56 KB | Oct 19 20:14 |
| neildarlow | schestowitz: Hi. Is there a RSS feed for the HQ MP3 audiocast? | Oct 19 20:14 |
| schestowitz | no | Oct 19 20:16 |
| schestowitz | i can write one | Oct 19 20:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | not much of a podcast if you cant subscribe to it | Oct 19 20:16 |
| schestowitz | you can | Oct 19 20:16 |
| schestowitz | blog posts with ogg attachment | Oct 19 20:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | you know whats kinda ironic? | Oct 19 20:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | podcast was named after the ipod... yet, apple has killed the ipod | Oct 19 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | Inoticed Fanboy's adblock list for Opera doesn't block those annoying Kontera links | Oct 19 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | *.kontera.* seems to work :P | Oct 19 20:17 |
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| DaemonFC | people who link to Windows shareware sites for Linux news really suck | Oct 19 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 19 20:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Before I moved to the main site, (then Walton Street) I was briefly at Headington. Remember chatting to a PAC bloke not keen on ANC. | Oct 19 20:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] You are not the person I thought you were. I was there 95-96. It used to be a two year course then one, they have obviously changed it back. | Oct 19 20:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 5 Open Source Games Come Together to Form 'Free Game Alliance' http://is.gd/NyDnh5 #games #freedom | Oct 19 20:28 | |
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| schestowitz | "What is broken for you?" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/647317 | Oct 19 20:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 19 20:32 |
| schestowitz | In identica, sometimes the post form does not show up, does not accept a submission, or does not emit it via APIs | Oct 19 20:32 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84664091 | Oct 19 20:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-11 19:25:51 UTC - Identi.ca: A Story of Migration From Windows to GNU/Linux http://ur1.ca/5g1st #linux | Oct 19 20:35 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.timeslive.co.za/ilive/2011/10/18/ubuntu-is-for-the-poor-ilive | Oct 19 20:40 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @crosbie: Plagiarism, passing off, misrepresentation are acts of dishonesty. Nothing dishonest or wrong with using, copying, imitating. | Oct 19 20:41 | |
| MinceR | i wonder where this "brutally honest" meme came from and why do people repeat it without thinking | Oct 19 20:42 |
| MinceR | jobs lied all the time | Oct 19 20:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] GNU/Linux Preinstalled in South Africa (Vodafone) http://is.gd/sI1h52 #gnu #linux #ubuntu | Oct 19 20:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] We should bear with the people who are trying to help the community. | Oct 19 20:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @flojo ♺ @neustradamus: !Blender 2.60 has been released http://www.blender.org/ | Oct 19 20:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Digital textbooks open a new chapter http://goo.gl/t8brQ the US will fight this trend, lobbyists on gravy trains before kids education | Oct 19 20:48 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nationnow/2011/10/ohio-game-farm-large-animals-released-.html | Oct 19 20:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Dangerous exotic animals deliberately freed in Ohio, officials say - latimes.com .::. Size~: 75.62 KB | Oct 19 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | "The owner of an Ohio exotic-animal farm deliberately released his animals then killed himself, Muskingum County Sheriff Matt Lutz said Wednesday." | Oct 19 20:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Motorola Droid Powerful and Free From Microsoft Extortion Schemes http://is.gd/AV2cx7 #motorola #android #linux | Oct 19 20:49 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I don't see how Microsoft using a patent troll as a proxy would stop a company from using their own patents against Microsoft | Oct 19 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | might make for a "pick up the gun" type thing though that Microsoft would play to the press | Oct 19 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | Jeff Ignacio · CSU Fullerton | Oct 19 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | Alright, who played Jumanji?! | Oct 19 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | Reply · 47 · Unlike · Follow Post · 3 hours ago | Oct 19 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | hehehe | Oct 19 20:54 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: but against free platforms it matters | Oct 19 20:54 |
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| schestowitz | it's one of the selling points | Oct 19 20:54 |
| schestowitz | Apple puts it on h/w | Oct 19 20:54 |
| schestowitz | and it can afford for ios to have a tax | Oct 19 20:54 |
| schestowitz | people pay for the hardware | Oct 19 20:54 |
| schestowitz | whereas android gets "licensed" or given away | Oct 19 20:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] American of Asian decent, Americanised stage name, almost 40 #IMDB | Oct 19 20:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When #Microsoft broke the law it played "victim". Now it engages in racketeering, calls victims "outlaws" ("respect our IP"). | Oct 19 20:55 | |
| DaemonFC | you mean the damned things are so overpriced they can eat the occasional troll royalty | Oct 19 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 19 20:55 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84664475 http://identi.ca/notice/84664465 | Oct 19 20:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-11 19:52:16 UTC - Identi.ca: Microsoft has 1% market share in mobile and suddenly it does not like talking about "market share". | Oct 19 20:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-11 19:51:21 UTC - Identi.ca: #Intel and #x86 are pretty much dead in mobile, but almost nobody even bothers mentioning that. | Oct 19 20:55 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84664438 | Oct 19 20:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-11 19:49:21 UTC - Identi.ca: Ice Cream Sandwich Official Video http://is.gd/uhpBT2 #linux #android | Oct 19 20:56 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84664230 | Oct 19 20:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-11 19:34:39 UTC - Identi.ca: "An obituary for Dennis Ritchie was amended ... GNU as a free form of Unix. This was rectified." http://is.gd/MqDICT #fsf | Oct 19 20:56 |
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| DaemonFC | Jeremiah Yerk · San Diego, California | Oct 19 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | I agree. It seems like they made zero effort into safely capturing the animals. Wait, there's a giraffe shoot it, it's going to eat you! | Oct 19 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | Reply · 5 · Like · about an hour ago | Oct 19 20:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] how long will it be before traditional #publishers get the "premium content" concept wrong, & offer the ending as premium | Oct 19 20:58 | |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer · Huntington, Indiana | Oct 19 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | Jeremiah Yerk It's coming right for us! (South Park) | Oct 19 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | Reply · Like · 2 seconds ago | Oct 19 20:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @schestowitz When #Microsoft broke the law it played "victim". Now it engages in racketeering, calls victims "outlaws" ("respect our ... | Oct 19 20:59 | |
| DaemonFC | why is the best coffee the stuff that gas stations buy in bulk? | Oct 19 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | what makes it taste different? | Oct 19 21:00 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/noyesk/status/126749416689381376?iid=am-167106996113190543905733113&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208 | Oct 19 21:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @noyesk: And annoying! RT @schestowitz #identica made changes recently, but some features are stlll broken and getting around them is time consuming | Oct 19 21:02 |
| schestowitz | yes | Oct 19 21:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Nietzsche... the most quoted philosopher who never was. His 15 minutes are long overdue. | Oct 19 21:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft's patent troll (IV/Nathan) has been spending millions lobbying to preserve the broken #swpats system. So did BillG. | Oct 19 21:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How quickly Apple "fans" forget that the Jobs-led Apple fabricated 'evidence' and Jobs *personally* threatened CEOs. | Oct 19 21:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Android 4 is out. It has become very easy to see why Cook and Jobs have been suing (*lying* to judges) like there's no tomorrow. | Oct 19 21:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win," said the Androids and the Penguins. #linux | Oct 19 21:09 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84664666 | Oct 19 21:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-11 20:04:03 UTC - Identi.ca: #Microsoft is currently paying to produce #swpats propaganda to lobby politicians with -- to make racketeering seem "acceptable" | Oct 19 21:12 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84664684 | Oct 19 21:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-11 20:05:59 UTC - Identi.ca: In a world where "job creation" is euphemism to protect "tax evasion", "protecting IP" is euphemism for "embargo", "extortion". | Oct 19 21:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Sleep tight. | Oct 19 21:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Stallman on Steve Jobs: Tasteless or Incisive? http://is.gd/dApRQd misunderstood, as he explained to me | Oct 19 21:16 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux News: Community: Stallman on Steve Jobs: Tasteless or Incisive? .::. Size~: 64.54 KB | Oct 19 21:16 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Jenkins, the increasingly popular non-Oracle version of the Hudson CI tool (CloudBees whitepaper, PDF): http://bit.ly/mOsRuN | Oct 19 21:19 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting application/pdf type | Oct 19 21:19 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84664751 | Oct 19 21:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-11 20:09:57 UTC - Identi.ca: "When Microsoft and Apple get into bed together you have to start wondering what's going on," --Senior VP, Google. | Oct 19 21:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] Keynote announcement! The Second Revolution of Open Source by Bruce Perens http://t.co/1dmxXMV9 #LCA2012 | Oct 19 21:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "My feelings regarding Jobs are about his work, not about him personally. " @rms http://is.gd/ATjc7m | Oct 19 21:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] See above in thread. | Oct 19 21:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 19 21:21 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84664821 http://identi.ca/notice/84664911 | Oct 19 21:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-11 20:14:29 UTC - Identi.ca: Stallman on Steve Jobs: Tasteless or Incisive? http://is.gd/dApRQd misunderstood, as he explained to me | Oct 19 21:22 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-11 20:18:43 UTC - Identi.ca: In Korea, people buy LG/Samsung (Android with Microsoft tax), old people buy Apple, only dead people buy Microsoft. #korea | Oct 19 21:22 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/647831 | Oct 19 21:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 19 21:26 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84665011 | Oct 19 21:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-11 20:25:45 UTC - Identi.ca: 100% at work [IMG] http://ur1.ca/5g296 | Oct 19 21:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 19 21:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Wyden: PROTECT IP Act Is About Letting The Content Sector Attack The Innovation Sector http://goo.gl/pG5S8 | Oct 19 21:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Wyden: PROTECT IP Act Is About Letting The Content Sector Attack The Innovation Sector | Techdirt .::. Size~: 156.54 KB | Oct 19 21:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "For years we've seen Silicon Valley basically ignore what's happening in Washington DC" I lost interest at the 1st line of the article. | Oct 19 21:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is sandersch with 54 dents! | Oct 19 21:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Big companies are very interested in powerful politicians. The article is shite. | Oct 19 21:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @samatjain PayPal freezes Diaspora donations. I have mentioned: time to switch to !Flattr? http://ur1.ca/5g2c2 | Oct 19 21:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: PayPal has frozen Diaspora's account blocking any potential donations .::. Size~: 81.28 KB | Oct 19 21:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] BBC cricket commentators and those on radio three, shared DNA. #goodbutnotalwaysgood. | Oct 19 21:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] Miniconf announcement: Humanitarian FOSS enlightens linux.conf.au http://bit.ly/qsC0Rf #LCA2012 // cc @TimClicks | Oct 19 21:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Humanitarian free and open source software enlightens linux.conf.au - linux.conf.au 2012 | 16 - 20 Jan | Under the stars .::. Size~: 19.73 KB | Oct 19 21:46 |
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| XFaCE | schestowitz: Identica isn't as bad as you think | Oct 19 21:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Have a good time. | Oct 19 21:51 | |
| XFaCE | It's slow yes, but not bothering | Oct 19 21:51 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: The new Twitter mirror features works flawlessly | Oct 19 21:52 |
| XFaCE | And the layout is more logical now, much easier to follow conversations now | Oct 19 21:52 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: The only thing I've found disappointing is that the cross-site subscriptions aren't working | Oct 19 21:52 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: but mirroring offsets that anyway | Oct 19 21:53 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: overall, I'm pleased, though it's a little bland | Oct 19 21:53 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Hush out | Oct 19 21:54 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Still waiting on the Disapora acceptation | Oct 19 21:55 |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/qdHGV.jpg | Oct 19 21:57 |
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| XFaCE | schestowitz: Still waiting on the Disapora acceptation? :P | Oct 19 21:59 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Hard to dispute that... Hmm.. hydroponics? Gene splicing? Maybe it was an apple plant and not a full-fledge tree. :P | Oct 19 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/10/19/1348225/ballmer-were-lucky-microsoft-didnt-buy-yahoo | Oct 19 22:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ballmer: We're Lucky Microsoft Didn't Buy Yahoo - Slashdot .::. Size~: 139.19 KB | Oct 19 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | Why buy the Yahoo when you can have your operatives run the company for free? | Oct 19 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 19 22:03 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Hmm, is "lucky" codename for "malicious corruption"? | Oct 19 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | he meant that Microsoft shareholders are lucky that Yahoo executives were stupid and didn't take three times what the company is worth | Oct 19 22:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 19/10/2011: GNOME Shell 3.2.1, Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich http://ur1.ca/5g2il #techrights | Oct 19 22:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Links 19/10/2011: GNOME Shell 3.2.1, Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich | Techrights .::. Size~: 118.41 KB | Oct 19 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | this arrangement is better for Microsoft anyway | Oct 19 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | they get all the users who think they use Yahoo and don't really | Oct 19 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | and they can still pretend that Yahoo is the competition | Oct 19 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | saves them from the token approval process by various government agencies | Oct 19 22:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] How do you shred a cheese that is almost as hard as concrete? Looked you up. What we call grated cheese. What do we do with mozzarella? | Oct 19 22:06 | |
| schestowitz | hi XFaCE | Oct 19 22:06 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: hi | Oct 19 22:07 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84665051 | Oct 19 22:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-11 20:28:22 UTC - Identi.ca: Linux 3.0.7 http://ur1.ca/5fk4m Linux 7? | Oct 19 22:07 |
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| DaemonFC | why can't they admit that the global economic collapse started WAY before 2008? | Oct 19 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | and that it's getting worse | Oct 19 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | they keep declaring it over like wishing makes it so | Oct 19 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | or maybe they mean they're doing fine, sorry about your luck | Oct 19 22:08 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Ugh, don't EVER make that connection. EVER. :) | Oct 19 22:08 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Besides, it would be kernel version Linux 6.1, remember? ;) And Linux 3.1 will be "Linux 4". | Oct 19 22:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Hear what this man says: http://ur1.ca/5fboh http://ur1.ca/5g2jz | Oct 19 22:09 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 19 22:09 |
| XFaCE | Microsoft: "Rounding up to delude you more." | Oct 19 22:10 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: It's a combination of it's bad but not as bad, as in not as uncorrectable. | Oct 19 22:11 |
| MinceR | afaik they've changed the development model since 2.6 started, so the bump is somewhat justified | Oct 19 22:11 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Oh, I have no problem with the Linux kernel version bump | Oct 19 22:11 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Microsoft version numbering on the other hand... | Oct 19 22:11 |
| XFaCE | or naming for that matter. | Oct 19 22:13 |
| XFaCE | Logical patterns, need not apply. | Oct 19 22:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Liquid Soapmaking Instructions #preppers http://goo.gl/4EHtO | Oct 19 22:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] The @ACLU joins @EFF in calling on Congress to #UpdateECPA, the privacy law written before the Internet existed https://eff.org/r.3Ek | Oct 19 22:14 | |
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| schestowitz | I'll blog for a bit now | Oct 19 22:15 |
| schestowitz | Been working hard all week | Oct 19 22:15 |
| XFaCE | MinceR schestowitz: Windows 8 = 6.2.8102.0 | Oct 19 22:15 |
| schestowitz | tomorow I ge a day off, then 4 days work in a row again | Oct 19 22:16 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: yeah | Oct 19 22:16 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: Vista 8 | Oct 19 22:16 |
| schestowitz | Vista is 6.0 | Oct 19 22:16 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: MinceR: Yep. | Oct 19 22:18 |
| schestowitz | Just dented it... | Oct 19 22:19 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: It's a purely branding exercise. No actual benefits. Just image. Mist. Vapour. | Oct 19 22:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Vista is Windows 6.0, Vista 7 was Windows 6.1 (yes, really, check the Registry), Vista 8 is currently 6.2.8102.0. Reselling Vista. | Oct 19 22:19 | |
| schestowitz | i said that about vista 7 | Oct 19 22:20 |
| schestowitz | !google vista 7 mandriva | Oct 19 22:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Mandriva Forum (en) • View topic - Vista/Mandriva sharing files | http://forum.mandriva.com/en/viewtopic.php%3Ft%3D115986 | Oct 19 22:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Dual Boot Windows 7 / Vista and Linux Part 1 of 2 - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DG7XHm3SXLkw | Oct 19 22:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Put Mandriva 2010 on a USB Flash Drive (Windows) | USB Pen ... | http://www.pendrivelinux.com/put-mandriva-2010-on-a-usb-flash-drive-windows/ | Oct 19 22:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Dual Boot With Windows 7 and Vista and XP - MandrivaUsers.org | http://mandrivausers.org/index.php%3F/topic/99673-dual-boot-with-windows-7-and-vista-and-xp/ | Oct 19 22:20 |
| schestowitz | !google vista 7 techrights 6.1 | Oct 19 22:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Vista 7 Reality Log - Techrights | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Special:Search/Vista_7_Reality_Log | Oct 19 22:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Links 23/8/2011: Linux 3.1 RC3, Scientific Linux 6.1 ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/08/23/linux-3-1-rc3/ | Oct 19 22:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - 2011 May 26 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/05/26/ | Oct 19 22:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Techrights' IRC (@boycottnovell) on Twitter | http://twitter.com/boycottnovell | Oct 19 22:20 |
| schestowitz | It's hard to search numebrs | Oct 19 22:20 |
| schestowitz | Google does not index those with decimal points | Oct 19 22:20 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Yep, I read your stuff. :) | Oct 19 22:21 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: So let's see. Windows 8 is a refined version of Windows 7. | Oct 19 22:22 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: With that line of reasoning, each Windows version has less meaningful change than the last. | Oct 19 22:22 |
| XFaCE | After all, 7 was just a refined Vista, which was heavily retooled XP | Oct 19 22:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The number does not mean much. Linux 3? | Oct 19 22:23 | |
| XFaCE | So let's say the meaningful changes from each major version are equal to 1. | Oct 19 22:23 |
| MinceR | "refined" is quite the overstatement :> | Oct 19 22:23 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Since Windows 7 was just a "refining" (quickie dressing job), then it's "change value" will be 0.5 | Oct 19 22:24 |
| XFaCE | Since 8 is just a retooled 7, it's change value will be 0.5*0.5=0.25 | Oct 19 22:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Granted with MS it means even less. | Oct 19 22:24 | |
| XFaCE | Yeah, the numbers and change amount assigning is completely arbitrarty, just thought it would be funny to point out (schestowitz, MinceR) | Oct 19 22:25 |
| schestowitz | It's not arbitrary | Oct 19 22:25 |
| schestowitz | It's a marketing decision | Oct 19 22:25 |
| schestowitz | What name would sell | Oct 19 22:26 |
| schestowitz | I think Vidsta 8 is just a new desktop environment to go with Vista 7 | Oct 19 22:26 |
| schestowitz | and a new 'secure' booting system | Oct 19 22:26 |
| schestowitz | Now you TOO can secure yourself frokm LUNIX | Oct 19 22:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Music is special maybe the foundation of a new religion. #makesasmuchsense | Oct 19 22:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] Might as well call it "Windows ∞" | Oct 19 22:28 | |
| XFaCE | schestowitZ: i meant my values of 1, 0.5, etc. | Oct 19 22:28 |
| XFaCE | to measure "change" | Oct 19 22:29 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: my way of explaining decreasing Microsoft innovation using their own lingo | Oct 19 22:30 |
| schestowitz | !google Brand research | Oct 19 22:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Market Research Versus Brand Research | Joseph Benson ... | http://www.brandchannel.com/papers_review.asp%3Fsp_id%3D762 | Oct 19 22:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Brand Research Identity Image Strategy for Brands Brand Naming | http://www.brandidentityguru.com/research.htm | Oct 19 22:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Build Brands With Brand Research | Polaris | http://www.polarismr.com/brand-research/brand-research-overview/ | Oct 19 22:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Powerful Branding Research by Brand Equity Research Company | http://www.powerdecisions.com/branding-research.cfm | Oct 19 22:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I was not having a pop it was a #language ambiguation. Enjoy your food. | Oct 19 22:31 | |
| XFaCE | bbl | Oct 19 22:31 |
| *XFaCE (~XFaCE@unaffiliated/xface) has left #techrights ("Leaving") | Oct 19 22:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I must admit, the Update Status window in Gwibber 3.2 is a nifty idea; it's the bigger window that takes too long to load that lets it down | Oct 19 22:39 | |
| DaemonFC | http://slashdot.org/story/11/10/19/136259/value-of-bitcoin-crashes | Oct 19 22:42 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] How can all that marketing and so little development be wrong? | Oct 19 22:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] “Users should be able to buy licences to allow copying of copyright-protected material” http://bit.ly/oGTf0x | Oct 19 22:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Europa.eu: Become Microsoft or Apple Client to Access European Parliament http://is.gd/a8K5cf #swpats #linux #android | Oct 19 22:46 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2011/10/texas-agency-censors-scientific-report-to-remove-references-to-reality.ars | Oct 19 22:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Texas agency censors scientific report to remove references to reality .::. Size~: 32.85 KB | Oct 19 22:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @joindiaspora: Free at Last: Thanks to your tweets & emails, PayPal has freed the #Diaspora* community's donations! More info soon... | Oct 19 22:53 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: in Texas it's the opposite | Oct 19 22:56 |
| schestowitz | "You mean in the web interface? Do you use any desktop client (like Choqok) sometimes?" | Oct 19 22:57 |
| schestowitz | http://joindiaspora.com/posts/647317 | Oct 19 22:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 19 22:57 |
| schestowitz | The Web interface of identica does not always work right | Oct 19 22:57 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84665713 http://identi.ca/notice/84665720 | Oct 19 22:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-11 21:21:12 UTC - Identi.ca: The number does not mean much. Linux 3? | Oct 19 22:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-11 21:22:39 UTC - Identi.ca: Granted with MS it means even less. | Oct 19 22:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] la la | Oct 19 23:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Wall Street Is Dazed and Confused | Truthout #usa #ows #bankingsystem #crooks http://goo.gl/4rM5P | Oct 19 23:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Android 4 is Linux Checkmate http://ur1.ca/5g307 #swpats #linux | Oct 19 23:06 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84666167 | Oct 19 23:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Jose R Rodriguez (metztli)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-11 21:48:24 UTC - Identi.ca: When #Microsoft "violated U.S. antitrust laws"—leaving #Netscape out of business & #Novell wounded—it played "dumb". http://ur1.ca/5g2sc | Oct 19 23:08 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] A long, steep drop for Americans' standard of living - CSMonitor.com #usa #collapse http://goo.gl/JHqO4 | Oct 19 23:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: A long, steep drop for Americans' standard of living - CSMonitor.com .::. Size~: 74.64 KB | Oct 19 23:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] New campaign to stop dangerous streaming bill http://freebieber.org/ | Oct 19 23:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Free Bieber: Vote no on S. 978 .::. Size~: 20.56 KB | Oct 19 23:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] They are a business; they will minimise their profile to those that disagree and maximise it to those who do not. Do not expect honesty. | Oct 19 23:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] They are a business; they will minimise their profile to those that disagree and maximise it to those who do not. Do not expect honesty. | Oct 19 23:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it's easy for politicians to hide behind "I didn't break any rules" when caught, as it's politicians who make those rules, inc loopholes | Oct 19 23:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] People are starting to wake up to that. They will retreat to the previous line of trenches and carry on as normal until they are overrun. | Oct 19 23:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[stumbles/@stumbles] I have a radio interview today 12-1pm on free software, 3RRP Mornington (98.7 and 98.3 FM). #freesoftware | Oct 19 23:29 | |
| MinceR | gn | Oct 19 23:30 |
| schestowitz | I've just scripted something to distribute my code with rsync across servers and then run overnight with random permutations | Oct 19 23:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Are you talking about some distro's do not have an auto sudo list. If not forget what I said as I am very confused. | Oct 19 23:36 | |
| schestowitz | reused some old scripts... | Oct 19 23:37 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2005/10/30/remote-access/ | Oct 19 23:38 |
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| schestowitz | cubefc1: me on kde 3.1 http://schestowitz.com/Weblog_Frames/SSH_multiple.jpg | Oct 19 23:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Oct 19 23:39 |
| schestowitz | from the above | Oct 19 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I have something in common with Texas | Oct 19 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | they want to leave the United States | Oct 19 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | and I say we let them | Oct 19 23:43 |
| *koolhead17 is now known as koolhead17|zzZZZ | Oct 19 23:43 | |
| DaemonFC | without Texas, think about how bad the Democrats would have to fuck up to lose the white house | Oct 19 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | I can't say I'm fond of Democrats, but the Republican offerings so far are a pizza guy that played Sim City once, a Mormon, and the Texas governor who wants to secede from the US but is running for president of the US | Oct 19 23:44 |
| DaemonFC | I've got a better idea, don't be a hypocrite, please leave the US, and you can be the president, of Texas | Oct 19 23:46 |
| DaemonFC | as for the mormon and the pizza guy that played Sim City, I'm at a loss for words | Oct 19 23:46 |
| schestowitz | exas would be a more religious country than Mexico | Oct 19 23:47 |
| schestowitz | Also deep in debt | Oct 19 23:47 |
| schestowitz | But.. | Oct 19 23:47 |
| MinceR | and on the democrat side, you have the guy who advertises big companies and does nothing else | Oct 19 23:47 |
| schestowitz | Texas has some decent universities in there too, I kid you not | Oct 19 23:47 |
| schestowitz | I work with of of them (data-sharing) | Oct 19 23:47 |
| MinceR | he promised all sorts of things and delivered very little | Oct 19 23:47 |
| MinceR | but at least he got his nose brown when the big-mouthed thief and patent abuser died | Oct 19 23:48 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: he didn't promise | Oct 19 23:48 |
| schestowitz | He has a campaign | Oct 19 23:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] As in some distros typing sudo could be met with the equivalent you are not on the list? | Oct 19 23:48 | |
| MinceR | he promised he'll close gitmo | Oct 19 23:48 |
| MinceR | gitmo is still open | Oct 19 23:48 |
| schestowitz | the PR people funded by corporations, wrote down "promises" | Oct 19 23:48 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: He fights for the blind black lesbian quadriplegic Satan worshippers who crossed into the US illegally from Mexico (somehow) | Oct 19 23:48 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 19 23:48 |
| schestowitz | to help put his team in office | Oct 19 23:48 |
| schestowitz | he just read the texts the campaign managers gave him | Oct 19 23:48 |
| schestowitz | he's more like an actor | Oct 19 23:48 |
| MinceR | he's a puppet | Oct 19 23:48 |
| schestowitz | those promises are like those claims you see in adverts | Oct 19 23:49 |
| schestowitz | "coke will get you women" | Oct 19 23:49 |
| MinceR | just like the whoever the republican candidate will be | Oct 19 23:49 |
| schestowitz | [23:48] <MinceR> he promised he'll close gitmo | Oct 19 23:49 |
| schestowitz | He kept it closed | Oct 19 23:49 |
| MinceR | the megacorps will pull whichever the voters like better on their hand and continue playing | Oct 19 23:49 |
| schestowitz | "nobody goes out" :-) | Oct 19 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | he hasn't done me any favors, he pressed for don't ask don't tell to be repealed, now we can finally have what I think Bill Hicks once said about gay people in the military | Oct 19 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | anyone who is fucking stupid enough to join the military, should be allowed in | Oct 19 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 19 23:50 |
| MinceR | and the voters won't elect anyone outside the two big parties because 1) the voters are mostly idiots and 2) those guys don't have the money to advertise themselves so well | Oct 19 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: The Democrats and the Republicans write the election laws | Oct 19 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | including what the requirements are for ballot access | Oct 19 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | that's before we get to the computerized fraud | Oct 19 23:51 |
| MinceR | it's like the biggest companies asking the public what color makeup they should be wearing while they control the USA for the next 4 years | Oct 19 23:51 |
| schestowitz | colour me surprised | Oct 19 23:51 |
| MinceR | still, it's subtle compared to what's going on in hungary | Oct 19 23:51 |
| schestowitz | lol | Oct 19 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Republican controlled states, like Indiana (slim majority) make you present a driver's license or state ID to vote | Oct 19 23:51 |
| schestowitz | I saw hungary's parliament earlier | Oct 19 23:52 |
| MinceR | especially what will happen next time it's election time | Oct 19 23:52 |
| schestowitz | I used sxc.hu to find eu parliament picturs | Oct 19 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | you know how many cases of voter fraud have been prosecuted in the last 10 years? | Oct 19 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | whole United States? | Oct 19 23:52 |
| schestowitz | it had Budapest in page 1 | Oct 19 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | this gigantic number.... | Oct 19 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | 17 | Oct 19 23:52 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 19 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | 1.7 people per year out of over 300 million are charged with voter fraud | Oct 19 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | so we need to write laws that just so happen to keep a lot of poor people from voting | Oct 19 23:53 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: still, i don't seem to read/hear about people considering to vote for other parties any time there's an election in the USA | Oct 19 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | because they commit fraud | Oct 19 23:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I am not so sure the EU is worth supporting except for politicians and their patrons. I want changes before I am on board again. | Oct 19 23:53 | |
| schestowitz | poor people are not bad for voting | Oct 19 23:53 |
| schestowitz | the rich find them more gullible | Oct 19 23:53 |
| MinceR | if they only used fraud to get their way, it would be different | Oct 19 23:53 |
| schestowitz | it's the class of intellectuals they're most afraid of | Oct 19 23:53 |
| schestowitz | the super-rich know how to fool the super-poor | Oct 19 23:53 |
| schestowitz | it's those people beneath them they would struggle to trap | Oct 19 23:54 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: we need to clamp down in this problem of 1.7 ballots per year that are fraudulently cast | Oct 19 23:54 |
| schestowitz | not those who work 7 to 6 and then watch Glenn Beck before bedtime | Oct 19 23:54 |
| DaemonFC | the fact that it keeps the people the Republicans don't want voting anyway away from the polls is just a nice side effect | Oct 19 23:54 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 19 23:54 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: election are a fraud | Oct 19 23:54 |
| schestowitz | you need to oveerise the process | Oct 19 23:54 |
| schestowitz | especially the advertising of candidates | Oct 19 23:54 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Updike is finished | Oct 19 23:55 |
| schestowitz | just abolish the current system | Oct 19 23:55 |
| schestowitz | it's ust like two advertising team | Oct 19 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | his own party refused to nominate him | Oct 19 23:55 |
| schestowitz | a PR contest | Oct 19 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | he's gone no matter what happens | Oct 19 23:55 |
| schestowitz | http://ur1.ca/5frda | Oct 19 23:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Election Year - YouTube .::. Size~: 104.53 KB | Oct 19 23:56 |
| schestowitz | watch this | Oct 19 23:56 |
| schestowitz | it's great | Oct 19 23:56 |
| schestowitz | and new | Oct 19 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | we get bad mayors because the people that show up to vote just slap the "Republican ballot" option and go home | Oct 19 23:56 |
| schestowitz | watch the video, tell me what you think | Oct 19 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | and thank Jesus that we live in a land of 20% unemployment | Oct 19 23:56 |
| schestowitz | grapplingignorance | Oct 19 23:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Victory! Google surrenders in the #nymwars, promises support for pseudonyms https://eff.org/r.1Em | Oct 19 23:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Victory! Google Surrenders in the Nymwars | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 25.72 KB | Oct 19 23:58 |
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