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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] No Nonsense Self Defense - Reliable information for dangerous situations #survival #selfdefense http://ur1.ca/5h15cOct 23 00:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Anonymous Attacks Child Porn Websites and Publish User Names | ZDNet http://goo.gl/vn8ChOct 23 00:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Calm down and take deep breaths.Oct 23 00:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] An LCD telly is not very good at handling black. Or have I bought unwisely?Oct 23 00:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Working on the Ubuntu Community Survey results report #ubuntu #locoteamsOct 23 00:59
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schestowitzBBDOct 23 01:06
schestowitzBad Boy DaemonFCOct 23 01:06
DaemonFCwhat did I do?Oct 23 01:07
schestowitzWHat bring you to this part of town?Oct 23 01:07
DaemonFCcertainly not DawnOct 23 01:07
schestowitz_Goblin is playing Dawn of WarOct 23 01:07
schestowitzHe got a secret weaponOct 23 01:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Halle Berry could easily be a granny now.Oct 23 01:07
schestowitza razorOct 23 01:07
DaemonFCDawn, so easy a caveman could do her, in fact, he's over there right nowOct 23 01:08
DaemonFC:)Oct 23 01:08
schestowitz!google halle berry cryingOct 23 01:08
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Halle Berry's Emotional Oscar® Acceptance Speech - Video | http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2478896/halle_berrys_emotional_oscar_acceptance_speech/Oct 23 01:08
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Watch Halle Berry emotional Oscar acceptance Video | Break.com | http://www.break.com/usercontent/2009/2/Halle-Berry-emotional-Oscar-acceptance-673643Oct 23 01:08
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Halle Berry Cries Over Extreme Home Makeover - Halle Berry ... | http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20052223,00.htmlOct 23 01:08
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Halle Berry is Crying “Very Much” After The Separation From Gabriel ... | http://aliceislost.com/celebrity-and-gossip/halle-berry-crying-separation-gabriel-aubry/Oct 23 01:08
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DaemonFCschestowitz: I have a theory that she has so many STDs they're preventing each other from killing herOct 23 01:12
DaemonFCthat's just a guess, can't prove itOct 23 01:12
exiffwho?Oct 23 01:14
DaemonFCmy neighbor, she's a recurring in joke hereOct 23 01:14
DaemonFC:)Oct 23 01:14
Brendan_TIt's hilarious seeing articles talk about 'Anoymous' as if it's a single organised group.Oct 23 01:16
DaemonFCAnonymous has attacked and brought down over 40 child porn sites in the last weekOct 23 01:17
DaemonFCmaybe the FBI should hire themOct 23 01:17
DaemonFCthey seem to be doing a better job with less tax moneyOct 23 01:17
exiffanonymous is the uni-mind.Oct 23 01:18
exifffeelings of injustice / teh lulz resonate at a subconscious levelOct 23 01:19
DaemonFCI think it's funny that the police and the FBI don't do much about existing crime, they go provoke more crime (and in some cases fund it) to get convictionsOct 23 01:21
exiffusing the net as a medium Oct 23 01:21
DaemonFCmost of the "terrorist" plots the FBI has uncovered and stopped were done after an FBI agent recruited the "terrorists" and gave them fundingOct 23 01:21
exiffperhaps you expect too much from the man.Oct 23 01:21
exiffit is still an organisation that is made by human and given power and authority by society... and the fact that it is made of humans,means at its core are self serving interests. Oct 23 01:22
DaemonFCThe Atlanta, Chicago, New Orleans, and Los Angeles police set up $50,000 Cadillac Escalades in poor black neighborhoods with the engine running and the door openOct 23 01:23
cubezzzwhat for?Oct 23 01:23
DaemonFCbut the rate of real car theft recovery is well under halfOct 23 01:23
DaemonFCcubezzz: To bait them into stealing itOct 23 01:23
cubezzzentrapmentOct 23 01:23
DaemonFCthough they'd run faster from the police if they pulled their pants upOct 23 01:24
DaemonFChalf the people the cops take down on those shows look like the police caught them in the middle of a nice long shitOct 23 01:25
DaemonFCI don't think I'm being racist to observe that you can only run about half as fast with your pants belted to your kneesOct 23 01:26
DaemonFCtry it, it's like a potato sack race, only with the sheriff's deputies in pursuitOct 23 01:26
DaemonFChttp://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/10/22/national/w010149D33.DTLOct 23 01:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lawmakers open to changes in military benefits .::. Size~: 116.88 KBOct 23 01:29
DaemonFC"Thanks for 10 years in Iraq and Afghanistan, now we'll forget about you"Oct 23 01:30
schestowitz!google 1 marine 30 cops nycOct 23 01:30
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Video: 1 Marine vs. 30 Cops: Marine Punks NYPD Cops! | http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php%3Fv%3Dwshh7475FAFF0g9E91d2Oct 23 01:30
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Occupy Wall Street - 1 Marine vs 30 Cops Marine Wins YouTube ... | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D1PyernhYxuAOct 23 01:30
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - [Occupytimessquare] 1 Marine vs. 30 Cops : nyc | http://www.reddit.com/r/nyc/comments/lf884/occupytimessquare_1_marine_vs_30_cops/Oct 23 01:30
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - 1 Marine vs. 30 Cops | http://breakthematrix.com/war/orignal-full-version-1-marine-30-cops-handy/Oct 23 01:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz Doubt it would help... it's the humans who own shares that give Corporations their power.Oct 23 01:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Dammit. Someone took freedentity.com. Now I am really annoyed. Working on that project for over a year and now it is gone.Oct 23 01:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Took?Oct 23 01:37
schestowitzDaemonFC: jabba https://joindiaspora.com/posts/662702Oct 23 01:38
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/661353Oct 23 01:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Not quite fractialism, but... [IMG] http://ur1.ca/5h1trOct 23 01:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Steve Jobs, the man who schemed to kill Linux/Android. Why cry? [IMG] http://ur1.ca/5h1tyOct 23 01:42
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84721194Oct 23 01:43
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 23-Oct-11 00:36:46 UTC - Identi.ca: Survey: In 2 Years, Vista 7 Enters Just a Quarter of Businesses http://is.gd/5WXs0w  #microsoft #windows #vista7Oct 23 01:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Did you see the reports where Jobs was quoted as saying he would spend everything Apple has to kill Android?Oct 23 01:54
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84721398Oct 23 02:01
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 23-Oct-11 00:56:20 UTC - Identi.ca: #Microsoft is Still Fighting Hard Against GNU/Linux, Resorting to Dirty Tricks http://ur1.ca/5h1vvOct 23 02:01
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DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=MC9PTsDbN1IOct 23 02:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] So you are happy with capitalists cherry picking and leaving the unprofitable things that need doing to be paid for by citizens?Oct 23 02:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I remember your dry humour now :)Oct 23 02:15
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sebsebsebhiOct 23 02:18
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DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=_7DZRqHqlp4Oct 23 02:20
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cubefc1saw a cable show recently, all the phone people were on XPOct 23 02:20
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d6wp8mGu8I&feature=relatedOct 23 02:20
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cubefc1welcome to the cage :-/Oct 23 02:20
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38ZtP2D0PE0&feature=relatedOct 23 02:22
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DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfxzE21bfs0&feature=relatedOct 23 02:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] U.S. Troops to Leave Iraq by Year’s End, Obama Says - NYTimes.com |"In Afghanistan about 95,000 American troops remain" http://goo.gl/EPTpKOct 23 02:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] U.S. Troops to Leave Iraq by Year’s End, Obama Says - NYTimes.com "In Afghanistan about 95,000 American troops remain" http://goo.gl/EPTpKOct 23 02:24
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DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=lIV71isgbLoOct 23 02:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Government is paid for and owned by business how does this fit with your theory that government should not be making money?Oct 23 02:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] My point is that if it is profitable a business makes money, if not and it is essential citizens pay for it.Oct 23 02:35
DaemonFCJabba is camping out in a pizza boxOct 23 03:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] You hackers.. What are you like?Oct 23 03:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] are there actually any #gtk3 blogging clients? !gnomeOct 23 03:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Let it go. You had a bit of a fallout with @thistleweb, time to move on unless it is going to be a scary obsession.Oct 23 03:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] ?Oct 23 03:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Rum,sodomy and the lash?Oct 23 03:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Oh great. British commercial telly is going to tell young people "How they can be better in bed" #sexsellsOct 23 03:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I have only had root beer once thanks to a USA base in England, it was quite nice as I remember.Oct 23 04:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] Not sure. I think humans like to hide behind long chains of corporations. Hard to pretend to be a good guy by donations when evidence plain.Oct 23 04:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] Another idea I have is to go to single purpose corporations only.Oct 23 04:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I only had it once. Did not realise there was a root beer ecosystem. I Thought it was like dandelion and burdock one recipe to rule them allOct 23 04:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] *slidewhistle going down*Oct 23 04:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Listening 2 @Allison_Crowe 's Lisa's Song [ http://ur1.ca/5h2oq ] makes me #hope Lisa can come home some day. http://ur1.ca/5h2on #lostgirlOct 23 04:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lyrics to the track: Lisa's Song - Jamendo .::. Size~: 68.49 KBOct 23 04:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Although the word absinthe is delicious, I've never had any inclination to actually sample the stuff. Drinking zombies was my upper limit.Oct 23 04:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] In case you missed it, we now have an #LCA2012 Twitter list for attendees. If you're not on it and should be, ping us! http://t.co/BaFSYIkNOct 23 05:22
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DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPjqmVUt380&feature=relatedOct 23 05:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] 84 sleeps until the awesome of #LCA2012? Excited yet? If so, you should probably register and get an early bird discount! 7 days left!Oct 23 05:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Happy 90th Dad! We all love you and miss you! #fbOct 23 05:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #Wiredoo, as #tweakers voiced it in their poll "Can't touch it, can't find it, don't want it" #mchammerOct 23 05:45
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84721358Oct 23 08:39
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Sunday, 23-Oct-11 00:52:33 UTC - Identi.ca: Did you see the reports where Jobs was quoted as saying he would spend everything Apple has to kill Android?Oct 23 08:39
DaemonFChe died first and all it cost him was some new age hippie placebo crapOct 23 08:41
DaemonFC"alternative medicine"Oct 23 08:42
DaemonFCschestowitz, You'll be OK, you just need some Echinacea and a prayer circle Oct 23 08:43
schestowitzLSD?Oct 23 08:45
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DaemonFCOoo eee, ooo ah ah ting tang Oct 23 08:46
DaemonFC Walla walla, bing bangOct 23 08:46
DaemonFC:)Oct 23 08:46
DaemonFCschestowitz: I wonder if something homeopathic would cure Dawn's GonoherpesyphilAIDSOct 23 08:47
DaemonFCyou think? :)Oct 23 08:47
DaemonFCI like how straight people suck and screw around and have tons of illegitimate kids and then point fingers at meOct 23 08:49
DaemonFCdoes that strike you as odd too?Oct 23 08:49
DaemonFCDawn mentioned to me that she "doesn't agree with my lifestyle" one day between chain smoking, floating her liver, and screwing the maintenance menOct 23 08:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Choice Between Microsoft Windows and Microsoft Linux http://is.gd/XVODVS #windows #linux #wyse #suseOct 23 08:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Good night, all, I'm off so I can pretend to be awake when I have brunch with my sister tomorrow :) !TzafOct 23 09:32
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84725155 http://identi.ca/notice/84725292Oct 23 09:36
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 23-Oct-11 08:06:04 UTC - Identi.ca: Patents Roundup: Apple Control Freak, Patents as a Business Model, and Oracle vs. Android http://is.gd/RaNWMu #swpatsOct 23 09:36
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TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 23-Oct-11 08:20:15 UTC - Identi.ca: #Microsoft by Proxy: How a Monopolist Distorts New Zealand’s Views to Turn #NewZealand Into Patents-subjugated http://is.gd/R3NbACOct 23 09:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Apple think they're screwed without Jobs, wait until the dude who actually invented the iDevices passes away, then they're REALLY screwedOct 23 09:37
*DaemonFC is spreading mines all over his baseOct 23 09:56
DaemonFCB-)Oct 23 09:56
DaemonFCI left a clearing that looks like it's safe from all my base defenses and leads to my resource pile and stuffed it full of anti-personnel and anti-vehicle minesOct 23 09:56
DaemonFCthat's going to be a nice surprise for someoneOct 23 09:57
DaemonFCschestowitz: Have you tried UMPlayer?Oct 23 10:01
DaemonFCVery nice, I suggest itOct 23 10:01
DaemonFCschestowitz: A lot of organizations have been "openwashing" .NETOct 23 10:02
DaemonFCit has been going on for a whileOct 23 10:02
DaemonFCthe US Air Force Academy ported Ada to .NET back in 2006Oct 23 10:03
DaemonFCthough it doesn't appear that the project is activeOct 23 10:03
schestowitznot trid that player, no..Oct 23 10:05
schestowitzand biggest 'app' to openeash .not is monoiOct 23 10:06
DaemonFCschestowitz: With all the problems I've had out of VLC, I decided to see what else was out there Oct 23 10:06
DaemonFCand UMPlayer is very niceOct 23 10:06
DaemonFCstable releases of VLC don't yet support 10-bit color depth in h.264Oct 23 10:07
DaemonFCso you get a nice green window to look at instead of your videoOct 23 10:07
DaemonFCand even the nightlies still cause problems with pulseaudioOct 23 10:07
DaemonFCUMPlayer has neither of those problems, in their stable releaseOct 23 10:08
*amarsh04 remembers university lecturers pointing out in 1991 that the GNU Project would be including Ada in gccOct 23 10:08
DaemonFCGCC does have Ada supportOct 23 10:08
amarsh04that's why I keep mplayer-mt around, it plays some stuff that vlc can't and with lower cpu useOct 23 10:08
DaemonFCvery good Ada support, because of the contributions of a company that sells support and tools around thatOct 23 10:09
amarsh04yes, GNAT was the best thing that happened to AdaOct 23 10:09
DaemonFCamarsh04: Even better, I told it to render with OpenGL and direct renderingOct 23 10:09
DaemonFChardly any CPU usage at allOct 23 10:09
amarsh04helped reduce the price of the expensive validated compilersOct 23 10:10
DaemonFCand it has a deblocking filter to smooth out mpeg artifactsOct 23 10:10
amarsh04vlc or mplayer?Oct 23 10:10
DaemonFCUMPlayerOct 23 10:10
DaemonFCit's a GUI frontend for mplayerOct 23 10:10
amarsh04ah okOct 23 10:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Don't drink [IMG] http://ur1.ca/5h5ltOct 23 10:11
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/663137Oct 23 10:12
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-NickServ-schestowitz!~schestowi@host86-150-236-46.range86-150.btcentralplus.com has just authenticated as you (schestowitz)Oct 23 10:11
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DaemonFCschestowitz: I did have that happen during my drive test when I was 16Oct 23 10:12
DaemonFCthe instructor told me to parallel park, which I didOct 23 10:12
DaemonFCand then this woman in an SUV pulls up about half an inch from my rear bumper so I couldn't get outOct 23 10:13
DaemonFC:)Oct 23 10:13
schestowitz:-Oct 23 10:13
*amarsh04 onlly just learned about the -ao pcm option to mplayer a few days ago... invaluable for recording streams that mplayer can handleOct 23 10:14
DaemonFCschestowitz: I figured out what broke Opera and Chrome's hardware acceleration the other dayOct 23 10:15
DaemonFCnative integer texture support landed in R600g and broke about 25 items on the piglit testOct 23 10:15
DaemonFCto which a fix was posted yesterdayOct 23 10:15
*DaemonFC gave up and went back to Mesa 7.11 until that landsOct 23 10:16
DaemonFCI fired up Opera and wondered who turned off the fast :)Oct 23 10:16
*amarsh04 is still on mesa 7.11 but did a git pull after kernel 3.1.0-rc10 came out and found a few radeon improvementsOct 23 10:16
DaemonFCamarsh04: I have to wonder what exactly is going on with VLCOct 23 10:17
DaemonFCis it really so bad that they can't fix the pulseaudio plugin to work right?Oct 23 10:17
amarsh04Yes, I had a playlist not render kanji characters correctly no matter what translation I usedOct 23 10:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] The 2011 realtime minisummit http://ur1.ca/5h5nuOct 23 10:21
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*amarsh04 wonders if any graphical application *doesn't* depend on libfreetypeOct 23 10:22
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DaemonFChttps://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/305733_282286528458533_266484180038768_1012754_1134977795_n.jpgOct 23 11:29
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DaemonFCyou still can't have Chrome without it trying to take over your computerOct 23 12:20
DaemonFC*sigh*Oct 23 12:20
DaemonFCsudo rm -v /etc/default/google-chrome Oct 23 12:23
DaemonFCremoved `/etc/default/google-chrome'Oct 23 12:23
DaemonFC:)Oct 23 12:24
DaemonFCfuckersOct 23 12:24
DaemonFCof course there are 20 different places to set a default browserOct 23 12:25
DaemonFCthat's Linux for youOct 23 12:26
DaemonFChttp://www.tomshardware.com/news/google-chrome-http-pipelining-browser-wars-firefox,13768.htmlOct 23 12:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Chrome 17 Gets HTTP Pipelining .::. Size~: 118.87 KBOct 23 12:31
DaemonFCoh wow, Mozilla has had that since the dawn of time (disabled by default but easy to flip onOct 23 12:31
DaemonFCOpera tooOct 23 12:31
DaemonFCOpera's is on by defaultOct 23 12:32
DaemonFCactually, come to think of it....Oct 23 12:39
DaemonFCyou can tweak a registry setting in Windows 98 and make IE 5 do pipelining Oct 23 12:39
DaemonFCso, hardly newOct 23 12:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] If some of you still believe that NATO isn't evil, even after destroying a sovereign country like Libya...http://youtu.be/7fB6nViwJcMOct 23 12:46
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sebsebsebhiOct 23 13:07
DaemonFCthe Chromium PPAs are building againOct 23 13:08
DaemonFCdaily one is on version 17Oct 23 13:08
sebsebsebDaemonFC: I don't really care much about chromiumOct 23 13:09
sebsebseband I don't really care that much about FIrefox anymore either to be honest, Firefox 3.6 for me again for nowOct 23 13:09
sebsebseband well in Windows got later FirefoxOct 23 13:09
sebsebsebanyway Seamonkey might eventaully become my main browserOct 23 13:09
sebsebsebMozilla Suit was at one stageOct 23 13:10
DaemonFCChrome is by far the most annoying browser this side of Internet ExplorerOct 23 13:11
DaemonFCbut Chromium doesn't try to take over the entire computer like Chrome doesOct 23 13:12
DaemonFCChrome is turning into the Real Player of web browsersOct 23 13:12
sebsebsebDaemonFC: oh?Oct 23 13:12
sebsebsebalso Chromium and Chrome the interface reminds me very much so of Internet Explorer 7Oct 23 13:13
sebsebsebanother reason I am not keen on itOct 23 13:13
DaemonFCyeah, it sets itself as the default browser in many places even if you tell it not toOct 23 13:13
sebsebsebreally don't like the interface for Internet Explorer 7Oct 23 13:13
DaemonFCand it pesters you to sign up for GoogleOct 23 13:13
DaemonFCChrome does, not ChromiumOct 23 13:13
sebsebsebInternet Explorer 6 I think has a good interface, but obviously it lacks tabs by default, there was some add on program I got for it once that gave it tabs thoughOct 23 13:13
sebsebseband then of course the rendering engine wasn't that great when it was really popular for most of it and all thatOct 23 13:13
sebsebseb,but the interface well what I just typedOct 23 13:13
DaemonFCyou tell Chrome not to make itself the default browser, then later you go click a link in ThunderbirdOct 23 13:14
sebsebsebDaemonFC: yeah really with Chorme,  they use the open source communityOct 23 13:14
DaemonFCwhat does it open in? :)Oct 23 13:14
sebsebsebopen source community does most of the work I guess with ChromiumOct 23 13:14
sebsebseband then they take it, and do a few changes, and advertise it, I guess?Oct 23 13:14
DaemonFCGoogle employees are most of the Chromium projectOct 23 13:14
sebsebsebwell thatm akes sense I guessOct 23 13:15
DaemonFCit's a legitimate open source project, but it has a cathedral style development modelOct 23 13:15
sebsebsebwhy contribute to a open source project, that also has a closed source version?Oct 23 13:15
sebsebsebwhy do the work for a company for free?Oct 23 13:15
sebsebsebanother reason I won't do that much Ubuntu support anymore  since this kind of time last yearOct 23 13:15
DaemonFCI don't see anything wrong with what they doOct 23 13:15
sebsebsebthat's one thing not being so keeno n the direction Ubuntu is going inOct 23 13:15
sebsebsebthat's another doing stuff for free, for a for profit companyOct 23 13:16
DaemonFCit's not like Chrome has anything Chromium doesn't, except a lot of Google crap that tries to take over your computerOct 23 13:16
sebsebsebDaemonFC: basically if you help with Ubuntu as a volunter, your helping a for profit company for freeOct 23 13:16
DaemonFCthat's like saying, don't contribute to FedoraOct 23 13:16
sebsebseband I did a lot of that at one stageOct 23 13:16
sebsebsebspent many hours helipng peopleOct 23 13:16
DaemonFCbecause Red Hat makes a profit from RHELOct 23 13:16
sebsebsebDaemonFC: that's differnetOct 23 13:16
DaemonFCnot reallyOct 23 13:16
sebsebsebRedhat is the sponser of FedoraOct 23 13:16
sebsebseb,but they don't make money from itOct 23 13:16
sebsebsebsome of the changes that FEdora has may end up in Redhat eventauly thoughOct 23 13:17
sebsebsebDaemonFC: anyway these projects all need moneyOct 23 13:17
sebsebsebwas thinking about that earlier in fact when i comes to MintOct 23 13:17
sebsebseband Mageia for that matter how the relase cycle is 9 monthsOct 23 13:17
DaemonFCI don't see anything wrong with distributions making Chromium the default browserOct 23 13:17
DaemonFCif they tried doing it with Chrome I'd be pissed and find a new distributionOct 23 13:17
sebsebsebDaemonFC: I don't see anything wrong really with distributions that take Ubuntu, and then make their own distro, like Mint doOct 23 13:18
sebsebsebwell it's either distros like thatOct 23 13:18
sebsebsebor actsaul forks, if hte projects have enough money, of distrosOct 23 13:18
sebsebseband enough developer interestOct 23 13:18
DaemonFCShuttleworth said he may replace Firefox with Chrome eventuallyOct 23 13:18
sebsebsebDaemonFC: also Ubuntu take loads of DebianOct 23 13:18
DaemonFCyes, Chrome, not Chromium Oct 23 13:18
DaemonFCas in nonfree software in the default Ubuntu desktopOct 23 13:18
sebsebsebso in that case, why shoudn't other distros, be able to take Ubuntu, like Mint and such do?  exactly they can, and they doOct 23 13:18
sebsebsebDaemonFC: oh I got a good article for you in factOct 23 13:19
sebsebseblet's see if I can find againOct 23 13:19
sebsebsebDaemonFC: ok this one :D http://delogics.blogspot.com/2010/10/why-ubuntu-sucks.htmlOct 23 13:20
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sebsebsebDaemonFC: actaully that might be the wrong oneOct 23 13:21
sebsebsebDaemonFC: ok this is the one I wanted to link you to: http://www.jemmatzan.com/2011/10/unity-is-the-end-of-ubuntu.htmlOct 23 13:25
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sebsebsebDaemonFC: In the old days pargraph is good, and about Ubuntu being like a sharkOct 23 13:26
DaemonFCRyan Farmer unlocked Flatirons in War Commander.Oct 23 13:39
DaemonFCThe deadliest surprises lurk just beneath the surface -- watch where you step!Oct 23 13:39
DaemonFC:)Oct 23 13:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #quotes - “All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing” -- Edmund BurkeOct 23 14:21
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/doodenaolivre/statuses/128077808302964736Oct 23 15:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] The bubble from the first five games has finally burst quite loudly. !mufcOct 23 15:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Strathclyde Police: Prove it. http://is.gd/Rt76te @KeepPeopleSafe #policestatewatchOct 23 15:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] The bubble from the first five games has finally burst quite loudly. #mufcOct 23 15:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Did WikiLeaks drive the US out of Iraq? | Salon http://t.co/mPC6xx0cOct 23 15:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] This was coming, no ? After some people made moronic claims post the 8-2 win #mufcOct 23 16:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Jumentum Introduces a Single-Chip #Linux System - http://bit.ly/n5EcqC sounds v coolOct 23 16:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Verboten Story of Argentina’s Post-#Default Economic Success - http://bit.ly/qTTUNB rather important - and timely (v @davidgraeber)Oct 23 16:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Steve Jobs and His War on Linux, LSD Addiction, and ‘Theft’ of Credit for UNIX, Java, Xerox Inventions http://is.gd/Jygi9h #appleOct 23 16:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open Research Reports: What Jenny and I said (and why I am angry) - http://bit.ly/rg2Xni this: "Closed access means people die " #oaOct 23 16:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Yippieee, we didnt concede 8 :-P #MUFC #FAILOct 23 16:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Iris - alpha version now in the Android market - http://ur1.ca/5fx3hOct 23 16:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Received an E-mail from a reader today, suggesting a shoutout/recommendation for Katherine Noyes. @noyekOct 23 16:28
azalynschestowitz: you're roy, the guy that owns the site and posts the articles right? you really need a new avatar pic. or maybe correct the aspect ratio on the one you have already :POct 23 16:29
azalynit looks stretchedOct 23 16:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] We’ll never die, we’ll never dieWe’ll never die, we’ll never dieWe’ll keep the Red flag flying high‘Cos Man... http://b1t.it/JLsOct 23 16:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Home Theatre with #Linux http://ur1.ca/5h7k0 #openelecOct 23 16:29
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schestowitzPrefer Open Source? Join the Crowd Oct 23 16:29
schestowitzhttp://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/242300/prefer_open_source_join_the_crowd.htmlOct 23 16:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Centuries of open justice threatened by secret UK courts | Independent http://t.co/9wbzxqLbOct 23 16:31
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/665127Oct 23 16:35
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schestowitzI messed up the link (Diaspora bug removed it) http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/242300/prefer_open_source_join_the_crowd.htmlOct 23 16:35
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/84694179Oct 23 16:36
TechrightsBot-tr@Gordon Sinclair (thistleweb)'s status on Friday, 21-Oct-11 09:58:47 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz: you need a name calling section on your wiki, so people know what names to call things, us grown ups need helpOct 23 16:36
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/84721358Oct 23 16:37
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Sunday, 23-Oct-11 00:52:33 UTC - Identi.ca: Did you see the reports where Jobs was quoted as saying he would spend everything Apple has to kill Android?Oct 23 16:37
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/84721419Oct 23 16:37
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Sunday, 23-Oct-11 00:59:56 UTC - Identi.ca: That was a stupid question.Oct 23 16:37
schestowitzI took my time collecting unique facts on this rather than do a me-too postOct 23 16:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] "Futureplaces" traz ao Porto um dos fundadores do "Pirate Bay" - Fórum do M. Partido Pirata Português http://goo.gl/HWC6IOct 23 16:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] just dreamt that I was painting a library with all sorts of stuff with !identica people. woke up before I started on statusnet logo D:Oct 23 16:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Hershey's uses child labor, #Occupy to protest in NY http://identi.ca/url/55930044Oct 23 16:44
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84730273Oct 23 16:48
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 23-Oct-11 15:32:42 UTC - Identi.ca: One percent [IMG] http://ur1.ca/5h7kjOct 23 16:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Qt Gets More Secure (and #KDE Celebrates) http://ur1.ca/5gnx1Oct 23 16:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] New list on @klout, featuring Perseid Pub writers including @CJCherryh, @warpcordova, @LEAtchleyJr @BJDurham http://is.gd/5tHY9UOct 23 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Went to watch the Manchester derby (football) at noon, left when the yobs started to mess up the pub :/Oct 23 16:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Coming back to Humanity, or getting #Ubuntu 11.10 installed again http://is.gd/xcR2Gd or preinstalled http://is.gd/mubUf6 #linuxOct 23 16:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Sabayon #GNU #Linux 7 Reviewed. Verdict: 4/5 http://is.gd/9sjoI0 #gentooOct 23 16:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Raymond defends the now infamous remarks made by Richard Stallman" http://is.gd/G4eEKo #gnuOct 23 16:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Gaddafi riches "staggering" http://identi.ca/url/55930143Oct 23 16:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Willie Nelson reads poem for #OccupyWallSt protesters http://identi.ca/url/55930145Oct 23 17:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] cool, so we both turned out actiony :D(boxing and ninja fighting before painting)Oct 23 17:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] German Paleontologists Find a 'Near-Perfect' Dinosaur Fossil http://identi.ca/url/55930159 !scienceOct 23 17:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 6 Months Release Cycle: 5 Years of Support http://is.gd/ClJgwI Kubuntu 10.04 LTS still works great. Thanks, Canonical.Oct 23 17:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Good stuff! http://ur1.ca/5h7qu #atheistsOct 23 17:04
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84730520Oct 23 17:06
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 23-Oct-11 15:58:58 UTC - Identi.ca: #Linux servers work just fine http://is.gd/DKyoIn  #zdnet pulls a "bad cop, good cop" routine for traffic?Oct 23 17:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Wine 1.3.31 is out http://ur1.ca/5h7r2 #linux #unixOct 23 17:08
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schestowitz"Just been looking at that myself (albeit with Dawn of War).... I'm now finding out exactly how much of a performance difference there is between running DOW in a VM and running it in Wine."Oct 23 17:08
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/665294Oct 23 17:08
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schestowitz_Goblin: what about natively in Win32?Oct 23 17:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Dennis Ritchie, High School Guidance Counselor http://identi.ca/url/55930208Oct 23 17:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] GNU/Linux Encourages Individuality http://ur1.ca/5gsrj very important, misunderstoodOct 23 17:11
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84730701Oct 23 17:14
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 23-Oct-11 16:07:54 UTC - Identi.ca: #KDE is now better than anything else and also stronger than ever http://is.gd/z4eVZo http://is.gd/Z3Y1ct  #qtOct 23 17:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ZDNet embraced Murdoch-style 'journalism', which is not illegal. The problem is, Google News syndicates that without [bait]/[tabloid]Oct 23 17:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Review of the New #Edubuntu http://ur1.ca/5h7th #ubuntuOct 23 17:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Phoronix says the sky is falling http://is.gd/0arP0u very true or click bait?Oct 23 17:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Why {A,L}GPL - it's also about reputation. #mustread http://ur1.ca/5h7ttOct 23 17:19
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schestowitz"Some of this is distastefully strong. OK, we know the man was bad, but "May he burn in hell"!?" http://joindiaspora.com/posts/665085 Oct 23 17:21
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schestowitzI didn't write it. That was a USENET message being quoted.Oct 23 17:21
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84730475Oct 23 17:22
TechrightsBot-tr@Kev Macphail (kevie)'s status on Sunday, 23-Oct-11 15:54:16 UTC - Identi.ca: ♻ @schestowitz Steve Jobs & His War on Linux,LSD Addiction,and ‘Theft’ of Credit for UNIX,Java,Xerox Inventions h... http://b1t.it/JLLOct 23 17:22
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84730825Oct 23 17:23
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 23-Oct-11 16:19:24 UTC - Identi.ca: Review of the New Kubuntu http://ur1.ca/5h7u4 #kde #ubuntu #gnu #linuxOct 23 17:23
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84730759 http://identi.ca/notice/84730768Oct 23 17:23
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TechrightsBot-tr@Florian Mueller (fosspatents)'s status on Sunday, 23-Oct-11 16:13:58 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Well over 50% of all Android devices worldwide are now subject to MSFT patent royalties: http://ur1.ca/5h7sxOct 23 17:23
schestowitzLOLOct 23 17:23
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Another Android and Chrome OS device developer pays Microsoft patent royalties | ZDNet .::. Size~: 116.38 KBOct 23 17:23
TechrightsBot-tr@Florian Mueller (fosspatents)'s status on Sunday, 23-Oct-11 16:14:55 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I guess Google sets the right priority by worrying about the Google-friendliness of bloggers rather than Android's IP problems.Oct 23 17:23
schestowitzWatch that POS celebrating patent taxOct 23 17:23
schestowitzWhat a douche***... on Microsoft's payrollOct 23 17:24
schestowitz"No, I realised that - but only the second time I read it. Good article, though " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/665085Oct 23 17:26
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_Goblinschestowitz: its bad enough having Microsoft code caged in a VM........don't want to run it natively...Oct 23 17:26
schestowitzIt made the Microsoft lobbyist angry (based on timing), so maybe it hit the right spot.  http://identi.ca/notice/84730759 http://identi.ca/notice/84730768Oct 23 17:27
TechrightsBot-tr@Florian Mueller (fosspatents)'s status on Sunday, 23-Oct-11 16:13:58 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Well over 50% of all Android devices worldwide are now subject to MSFT patent royalties: http://ur1.ca/5h7sxOct 23 17:27
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TechrightsBot-tr@Florian Mueller (fosspatents)'s status on Sunday, 23-Oct-11 16:14:55 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I guess Google sets the right priority by worrying about the Google-friendliness of bloggers rather than Android's IP problems.Oct 23 17:27
schestowitz_Goblin: yeahOct 23 17:27
schestowitzbut..Oct 23 17:27
schestowitzFor compaisonOct 23 17:27
schestowitzand it depends on the hardwareOct 23 17:27
_Goblingood point....Oct 23 17:27
schestowitznative vs VM vs compatibility layer (wine)Oct 23 17:27
_Goblinmaybe I should do a complete comparisonOct 23 17:27
schestowitza vm might do porly with too little ram allocated to itOct 23 17:27
_Goblinits a given re: VM v WineOct 23 17:27
schestowitzand ikt depends on the virutalisation sofwtareOct 23 17:27
schestowitzIIRC VirtualBox added 3d acceleration some years vacjOct 23 17:28
_GoblinIve allocated 1.5gb to XPOct 23 17:28
schestowitzback Oct 23 17:28
schestowitzwghich lught to help gamingOct 23 17:28
schestowitz_Goblin: about that refrence, it can be short. Might need it sent ASAP.Oct 23 17:28
_Goblinyep...I will be doing it..Oct 23 17:28
schestowitza few paragraphcs, maybe a coupleOct 23 17:28
_Goblinneed to speak as to how its structured...Oct 23 17:28
schestowitzintroduction to relationship to the said personOct 23 17:29
schestowitzAnd then some positive wordsOct 23 17:29
schestowitzthat ought to do (brief)Oct 23 17:29
schestowitzand supposed to be independent from the person referred toOct 23 17:30
_Goblinyou know the cola trolls will make guesses and libel as to what we are talking about....Oct 23 17:30
sebsebseb_Goblin: schestowitz Would either of you use an encrypted home?  Ubuntu or MintOct 23 17:30
_GoblinI wouldn't want an encrypted home....I'd forget the key and become homelessOct 23 17:31
sebsebseb_Goblin: exactly if it goes wrong, you basically get locked out of your own dataOct 23 17:31
sebsebsebI was trying to explain this to someoneOct 23 17:31
sebsebsebwho decided to have one set up for silly reasons as wellOct 23 17:31
_Goblinalso the wife doesn't look good if she's run through an encryption algorithmOct 23 17:31
amarsh04rofl _GoblinOct 23 17:32
amarsh04~ sweet ~Oct 23 17:33
schestowitz[17:30] <_Goblin> you know the cola trolls will make guesses and libel as to what we are talking about....Oct 23 17:34
schestowitzIf me being advanced to a higher pay grade is something they want to talk about, let them :-)Oct 23 17:35
*amarsh04 once saw a t-shirt that read "127.0.0.1 sweet 127.0.0.1"Oct 23 17:35
_Goblinschestowitz: you'll make em jealous....theres not much in Microsoft advocacy these daysOct 23 17:38
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amarsh04one person on a messageboard that I use listed his location as "::1" (-:Oct 23 17:40
schestowitzit turned to anything-but-Linux advocacyOct 23 17:49
schestowitzeven if it's appleOct 23 17:49
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koolhead17hi allOct 23 19:24
MinceRo haiOct 23 19:26
msbhttp://www.mathaba.net/news/?x=629074?rssOct 23 19:29
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msbI hope it's true!  I don't want to see another nation destroyed by fascism.Oct 23 19:31
MinceRfascism is still a very much present threat all over the planetOct 23 19:31
msbcapitalism + sociopathicCulture --> fascismOct 23 19:33
msbSteve Jobs started by seeking higher consciousness, but was eventually seduced by capitalism into attacking Android phones.Oct 23 19:34
msbObsessing about it.Oct 23 19:34
MinceRnot sure about the role of capitalism in thisOct 23 19:35
MinceRthere wasn't a lot of freedom or democracy in communist hungary eitherOct 23 19:35
msbIt demands that one's company try to destroy all competitors.Oct 23 19:36
msbMinceR: No, but in Nicaragua, Cuba, Venezuela, etc, there is.Oct 23 19:36
MinceRso you keep sayingOct 23 19:36
MinceRagainst all evidence and reasonOct 23 19:36
msbWhat evidence?Oct 23 19:36
msbNicaragua has democratic elections.Oct 23 19:37
MinceRwhen there's not a company destroying competitors, you instead have a state party destroying competitorsOct 23 19:37
MinceRso you keep sayingOct 23 19:37
MinceRof course it's easy to say that in the comfort of an economically well-off capitalistic state...Oct 23 19:37
msbhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicaragua#1990s_and_the_Post-Sandinista_eraOct 23 19:42
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msbSocialist Daniel Ortega won the most recent presidential election in 2006.  Gallup has his popularity as 44%, with the next highest party at 32%.Oct 23 19:43
MinceRoh, there were elections in hungary during the previous dictatorshipOct 23 19:44
MinceRnot that anyone the communists didn't like could run in them :>Oct 23 19:44
msbAnd the capitalist/fascist U.S. has murdered 2,000,000 people in Afghanistan and Iraq in the last 10 years.Oct 23 19:45
Diablo-D3is that all?Oct 23 19:46
Diablo-D3I call that a "monday"Oct 23 19:46
msbCapitalism in such a mode is certainly no better than Stalinism.Oct 23 19:46
Diablo-D3well thats the thingOct 23 19:47
Diablo-D3anyone who refers to a government by its type is an ignorant foolOct 23 19:47
Diablo-D3socialism works, nordic countries have basically proved thatOct 23 19:47
MinceRhttp://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ButForMeItWasTuesdayOct 23 19:47
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Diablo-D3capitalism works, many countries have proved thatOct 23 19:47
Diablo-D3even communism works, FOSS has proved that.Oct 23 19:47
Diablo-D3its HOW you implement it that mattersOct 23 19:48
MinceRexcept FOSS isn't communismOct 23 19:48
Diablo-D3the US historically has tried to take the best elements of every governmentOct 23 19:48
Diablo-D3social security? medicare? ZOMG EVIL SOCIALISM! BAD FDR! BAD!Oct 23 19:48
msbThe problem is that the prime directive of capitalism is to destroy competitors.Oct 23 19:49
msbThe prime directive of socialism is prosperity for everyone.Oct 23 19:49
MinceRthe prime directive of socialism is PONIES!Oct 23 19:50
MinceRthere's more to these ideas than just "prime directives"Oct 23 19:50
msbMinceR: Yes, there is the details and the implementation.Oct 23 19:51
msbBut it's difficult to achieve a good overall result when the fundamental principle is maximum profit for oneself, exploitation of workers, and destruction of the competition.Oct 23 19:52
MinceRit's even more difficult to achieve a good overall result when the fundamental principle is "nobody has right to private property"Oct 23 19:52
msbThe more that capitalists follow the primary dictates of their system, the more harm results.Oct 23 19:52
MinceRor even when the fundamental principle is "nobody has right to private property, except the state, who owns all the people"Oct 23 19:52
MinceRyou don't seem to have any issues with the second variant either...Oct 23 19:52
MinceR...even though it's fascismOct 23 19:53
msbMinceR: But in a properly formulated socialist system, people do have the right to private property, perhaps up to a million dollars worth.  But means of production have to be worker-owned co-ops.Oct 23 19:54
MinceRoh, now you move the goalpostsOct 23 19:54
MinceRso let's say that capitalism where there's love, peace, sunshine and ponies we decide to call "socialism"Oct 23 19:54
msbMinceR: No, you assumed you knew where my goalposts were, without asking.Oct 23 19:55
MinceRalso, you have no idea where to put that limit (which is arbitrary and pointless, by the way)Oct 23 19:55
msbIt is somewhat arbitrary, but certainly not pointless.Oct 23 19:55
MinceRalso, who decides how much my private property is worth?Oct 23 19:56
msbCapitalism with love, peace, sunshine, etc., but with private ownership, control, and profit from businesses, can't be socialism.  It violates the principle of more or less equal sharing in the results from work.Oct 23 19:58
amarsh04schestowitz, have you heard of the international consumers' group with a web site at a2knetwork.org ? I sent them a link to the gnu.org post about terms to avoid like "intellectual property"Oct 23 19:58
msbMarket value, as a start.Oct 23 19:58
MinceRperhaps you should check how much current and past "socialist" states "share" in the results of th peopleOct 23 19:58
MinceRperhaps you should check how much current and past "socialist" states "share" in the results of the people's workOct 23 19:58
msbNicaragua voted in socialism 5 years ago.  Nobody forced them.  They like it.  They can share farm equipment, etc.Oct 23 20:00
MinceRwhy don't you live in nicaragua?Oct 23 20:00
msbEisenhower said that 80% of the Vietnamese people wanted to unite under Ho Chi Minh, but the U.S. prevented the elections.Oct 23 20:01
MinceRwhy don't you live in nicaragua?Oct 23 20:01
msbWhy should I?Oct 23 20:01
MinceRbecause you apparently think it's a paradise while your current location is hell because it's capitalist?Oct 23 20:01
msbIf I feel that I'm in danger here, I might consider it.Oct 23 20:02
MinceRso you're a hypocrite. got it.Oct 23 20:02
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MinceRalso, who prevents people in a capitalist state from sharing equipment?Oct 23 20:02
msbMinceR: You are using rhetorical exaggeration -- paradise, hell, hypocrite.  You're not being honest.Oct 23 20:02
msbMaybe banks that own the equipment?Oct 23 20:03
MinceRbanks own all the equipment everywhere except nicaragua, cuba, venezuela and north korea?Oct 23 20:03
MinceRwhy didn't anyone tell all these people? why didn't they tell _me_?Oct 23 20:03
msbTell you what?Oct 23 20:04
MinceRthat i don't own the equipment that i've paid forOct 23 20:04
MinceRor that my employer doesn't own the equipment they've bought (they're not a bank)Oct 23 20:04
schestowitzamarsh04: but will they listen?Oct 23 20:04
msbschestowitz: PM please?Oct 23 20:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Concentration of media ownership - Wikipedia #msm #propaganda #nwo http://ur1.ca/5h92uOct 23 20:06
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amarsh04I'll have to see how they respond schestowitz... accan.org.au still sends me ms-word attachments after I've sent them the gnu.org note about ms-word attachementsOct 23 20:08
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schestowitzmsb: what for?Oct 23 20:18
msbschestowitz: To talk about something that needs privacy.Oct 23 20:18
msbNon-Microsoft privacy.Oct 23 20:18
MinceRthe best kindOct 23 20:19
_GoblinoopsOct 23 20:22
_Goblinnearly forgotOct 23 20:22
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schestowitz[19:49] <msb> The problem is that the prime directive of capitalism is to destroy competitors.Oct 23 20:51
schestowitzfallacyOct 23 20:51
schestowitzit's to increae capitalOct 23 20:51
schestowitzonly one way to do this is to kill competitorsOct 23 20:51
schestowitzbut it's not by definition the goalOct 23 20:51
schestowitzprice fixing too can increase profit, but it's against the lawOct 23 20:52
schestowitzthe problem is the Friedman School of Idiocy, aka Free marketOct 23 20:52
schestowitz[19:58] <MinceR> perhaps you should check how much current and past "socialist" states "share" in the results of the people's workOct 23 20:53
schestowitzIf money is the store of work, the problem is how we measure "Work", e.g. the value of a politician's work for examleOct 23 20:54
schestowitzwhy, for exqmpleOct 23 20:54
schestowitzis the work os a child in China 15 hours a day valued so lowly?Oct 23 20:55
schestowitzIt's not the complexity of the taskOct 23 20:55
schestowitzSome of them are very skilled at it and get the job done very fast owing to trainingOct 23 20:55
schestowitzyet they don't get paid more than paper-pushers in ManhattanOct 23 20:55
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/xterrie/statuses/128059477734858752Oct 23 20:56
TechrightsBot-tr@xTerrie: And what's the deal with this boycott thing? #novellOct 23 20:56
koolhead17:-DOct 23 21:01
schestowitzanivar organised a Boycott Novell protest in IndiaOct 23 21:07
schestowitzNovell got publicly shamed and this got international attentionOct 23 21:07
schestowitzFunny to watch, but Novell Inc. was not amusedOct 23 21:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] /me is still waiting to hear from the last of the postcard recipients...Oct 23 21:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is satipera with 70 dents!Oct 23 21:43
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schestowitzhttp://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/10/quelle-surprise-gao-finds-the-fed-is-a-club-of-backscratching-well-connected-white-bankers.htmlOct 23 21:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Ubuntu Survey results are taking quite a while to finalize in the report...going through the open feedback and collating patterns. #ubuntuOct 23 22:03
MinceRi think the free market would work well if it was really freeOct 23 22:09
MinceR(that is, monopolists could be lynched, for example)Oct 23 22:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Tech Notes: #Arch for #Debian users - #floss #tips #gnulinux http://goo.gl/mmB03Oct 23 22:19
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msbMinceR: How would "monopolist" precisely defined?Oct 23 22:21
MinceRnot sure, but i can show you some examplesOct 23 22:22
msb"free market" will always lead to corruption -- bribery and control of govt and military, thus invasion of countries for resources and cheap labor.Oct 23 22:22
MinceRwhile planned economy starts out corruptedOct 23 22:23
MinceRso much better!Oct 23 22:23
msbTo be beneficial to everyone, capitalism requires a lot of legal limitations and surveillance, including limits on profits vs. wages.Oct 23 22:23
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msbNo MinceR, planned economy is not necessarily part of socialism.  There are many different forms.Oct 23 22:25
MinceRwhy am i debating socialism with a guy who hasn't even seen it up close, ever?Oct 23 22:25
MinceRgnOct 23 22:25
msbMinceR: You are not being honest, not having an honest discussion.  I am not seeking a debate, but an exploration.Oct 23 22:26
msbschestowitz: Roy, are you there?Oct 23 22:27
schestowitzyeah, on and offOct 23 22:33
msbschestowitz: PM pleaseOct 23 22:39
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