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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Irony.. I was fighting against the reality of USA film industryOct 26 00:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] oh that was a #datalove.ly evening. and #net4change is tomorrow. yay! :)Oct 26 00:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Man utd well done I lost money on the aldershot betOct 26 00:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] NNDB on Gates Foundation Connections http://ur1.ca/5i51o #GatesFoundationOct 26 00:22
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koolhead17schestowitz    Ratan N. Tata Chairman of Tata GroupOct 26 00:24
koolhead17i see an indian there tooOct 26 00:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] That sort of language is guaranteed to really piss people off.Oct 26 00:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Robert W. Chambers - one of the greatest #Horror - #Fantasy writers of all times. #Read him now! http://is.gd/V54vMP #hotwriterOct 26 00:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] bad requestOct 26 00:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] sparking cloggsOct 26 00:33
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schestowitzkoolhead17|zzZZ: yes, tata is a big puppey of gatesOct 26 00:39
schestowitz!google tata techrightsOct 26 00:39
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - TCS (India) Wants to Turn Students Into Monopoly ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/07/20/tata-for-patents/Oct 26 00:39
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - 2011 June 15 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/06/15/Oct 26 00:39
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Links 9/10/2011: Kororaa 15 “Squirt”, Android 4.0 ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/10/09/android-4-0-expected/Oct 26 00:39
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Configure Tata Photon Whiz On Ubuntu Linux | Geek Ride | http://www.geekride.com/configure-tata-photon-whiz-ubuntu-linux/Oct 26 00:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] You are in the public eye front up or get ignored.Oct 26 00:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Lenovo - ThinkPad laptops with no operating system - #floss http://goo.gl/C5DO7Oct 26 00:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Ubuntu Laptops, Desktops, and Servers | System76 #floss http://ur1.ca/5i5bcOct 26 00:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I am not looking for a new England..Oct 26 00:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ZaReason, Inc. #hardware #gnulinux http://ur1.ca/5bflzOct 26 00:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] EmperorLinux - Linux Laptops and Notebooks - #hardware #gnulinux http://ur1.ca/5i5dzOct 26 00:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] That is an old record and band even for me.Oct 26 00:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Linux Laptop - Brand new Linux Notebook Computers - #hardware #gnulinux http://ur1.ca/5i5elOct 26 00:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Linux Laptop|Fully Supported & Configured High Performance Linux Laptops and Netbooks #hardware #gnulinux http://ur1.ca/5i5goOct 26 01:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Since http://ur1.ca/1pjxo change why do people who have really pissed me off get to talk to me when I have blocked them months ago @evanOct 26 01:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Training, Linux Laptop & Linux Services | LinuxCertified.com .::. Size~: 12.78 KBOct 26 01:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Public timeline - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 49 KBOct 26 01:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Badge of Dishonour for Apple, Even Dilbert Grows Tired of It http://ur1.ca/5i5k1 #appleOct 26 01:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Cocoa and bed then, someone will be happy eventually.Oct 26 01:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] "The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." ~Plato (427-347 BC) #quotesOct 26 01:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Mole Killed Linux Projects and Fed Patent Trolls for Attacks on Android http://is.gd/kDFn81 #linux #swpats #nokiaOct 26 01:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Beat the Banks! WikiLeaks now supports mobile phone (SMS) donations in 12 countries http://t.co/bqR30WTuOct 26 01:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Tzaf identizens good morning one and all, sleep tight where needed.Oct 26 01:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Beat the Banks! WikiLeaks now supports 3 indirect credit/debit card support options http://t.co/2hlGVJMfOct 26 01:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Beat the Banks! WikiLeaks now supports 3 indirect PayPal support options http://t.co/jCXbWjezOct 26 01:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Beat the Banks! WikiLeaks now supports four international bank transfer jurisdictions for supporters http://t.co/ZIGIEgqHOct 26 01:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] A-Ha - Take On Me (OFFICIAL VIDEO) - YouTube http://ur1.ca/5i5yzOct 26 01:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 'More support' for #CCTV after riots - Crime, #UK - The Independent - #policestate F* #sheeple http://goo.gl/6PRS2Oct 26 01:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Beat the Banking attack on WikiLeaks! Walk on over to your local MoneyGram office and put down some cash http://t.co/2FxEU0UuOct 26 01:47
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schestowitzThis post is a follow-on which shows the latest group of lobbyists of Microsoft doing their thing 'on behalf of small businesses' http://techrights.org/2011/10/25/association-for-competitive-technology-vs-android/Oct 26 02:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Throws More Lobbyists Into the Ring to Ban Linux Phones | Techrights .::. Size~: 98.62 KBOct 26 02:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Throws More Lobbyists Into the Ring to Ban Linux Phones http://is.gd/7aMAEz #linux #android #mobbyistsOct 26 02:05
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schestowitzhttp://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2011-10-24-005-39-OP-MS-LL-0004Oct 26 02:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Today - The Microsoft Spin Machine Makes Racketeering Seem Acceptable .::. Size~: 58.27 KBOct 26 02:05
schestowitz"Oct 26 02:05
schestowitzNeko, that plan only has a minor snag. The snag is called Windows. Windows comes with every filesytem out of the box, as long as MS developed (or extended) it. This means that manufacturers, who want to use Ext4 on Windos boxes (the majority of desktops out there), will have to provide and continually maintain their own Windows Ext4 filesytem driver. No way on earth that MS will provide one, when they are still dominant. Oct 26 02:05
schestowitz Oct 26 02:05
schestowitz This little thing in itself is a significant hurdle. Plug in a FAT card and probably every system in the world reads it. Plug in an Ext4 card and only FOSS systems will automagically read it. Windows and OS X need additional software to be able to do that. Oct 26 02:05
schestowitz Oct 26 02:05
schestowitz Maybe Apple would be inclined to provide Ext4 support if it became a standard memory card filesystem. Microsoft however would probably do everything in its power to break the third party Ext4 filesystemdrivers. FAT, and the patent on it, gives them power over others and it is a money maker, small as that may be. Ext4 would undermine their large lock in power. Oct 26 02:05
schestowitz Oct 26 02:05
schestowitz Plus, imagine the outrage from the Windows clientele, when they discover that their brand new, state of the art camera isn't "plug and play". That they, GASP!, need to install a driver. Oct 26 02:05
schestowitz Oct 26 02:05
schestowitz -- Linux is awesome! If one particular Distro doesn't work for you, you can just pick another. Find information on www.distrowatch.com Oct 26 02:06
schestowitz"Oct 26 02:06
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2011-10-24-005-39-OP-MS-LL-0005Oct 26 02:06
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schestowitz"Oct 26 02:06
schestowitzPerhaps this is really a marketing problem? Oct 26 02:06
schestowitz Oct 26 02:06
schestowitz Perhaps the best solution for this would be for the camera (and GPS and other) device manufacturers to band together, and market ext3/4 or other standard file-format as "Advanced Universal Mobile Memory" format (AUM). They could distribute the Windows drivers for XP and above (or even 9x and above) on those same silly CDs they use to distribute the "value added" software that comes with the consumer's new toy. They could brag in large Oct 26 02:06
schestowitzcolorful type that their consumer electronics supports all computers including Windows PCs, Apple products, and Linux. Oct 26 02:06
schestowitz Oct 26 02:06
schestowitz They wouldn't even have to explain that Linuxes (and maybe Apple?) already probably have access to AUM built in already, without the CD (it would just "install" quicker and easier) and down the road if Microsoft "accidentally" broke the driver -- it could be MS's fault (not keeping up with current technology and/or sabotaging competition), rather than anybody and everybody elses' fault for not keeping up with Microsoft's "innovative Oct 26 02:06
schestowitztechnologies". Oct 26 02:06
schestowitz"Oct 26 02:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Cops defy order to break up Occupy Albany | COLLAPSENET #ows http://goo.gl/I6OUSOct 26 02:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Wilfred the series is far more funny than I thought it would be. Wilfred is an evil fucker that makes stewie look like a socialist.Oct 26 02:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft front group Association for Competitive Technology (ACT) is gaming the US government, trying to establish an http://ur1.ca/5i6c3Oct 26 02:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ Microsoft front group Association for Competitive Technology (ACT) is gaming the US government, trying to establish an http://ur1. ...Oct 26 02:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Throws More Lobbyists Into the Ring to Ban Linux Phones | Techrights .::. Size~: 98.62 KBOct 26 02:12
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/84777780Oct 26 02:13
TechrightsBot-tr@Mohan P Ram (mohanpram)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Oct-11 14:35:36 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz someone is confused! LOLOct 26 02:13
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/84777780Oct 26 02:14
TechrightsBot-tr@Mohan P Ram (mohanpram)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Oct-11 14:35:36 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz someone is confused! LOLOct 26 02:14
schestowitz"hy does SoftPedia use a SUSE logo in a Ubuntu article? http://is.gd/7SmkMI strange..."Oct 26 02:14
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/84788825Oct 26 02:14
TechrightsBot-tr@Luke Slater (reality)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Oct-11 00:13:08 UTC - Identi.ca: "> lost his touch going out" I don't really think that's accurate at all. Last few years for Apple have been the bestOct 26 02:14
schestowitzFinancially maybe. Apple is hated by many.Oct 26 02:14
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/#!/SharpCoupe/status/128879250731311106Oct 26 02:16
TechrightsBot-tr@SharpCoupe: @schestowitz it's always been fun to install Linux :-)Oct 26 02:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Great science paper: The Network of Global Corporate Control (pdf) | ETH http://t.co/G1fVbSDPOct 26 02:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I will say what I said to your mate. Are you talking nowadays?Oct 26 02:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] A #Survival Q & A: Living Through SHTF In the Middle of A War Zone #preppers http://goo.gl/vqfALOct 26 02:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I have been watching the USA version thinking it was the original. It is not so strange.Oct 26 02:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A Survival Q & A: Living Through SHTF In the Middle of A War Zone .::. Size~: 134.76 KBOct 26 02:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] و«يكيليكس» قد يتعرض للإغلاق قريبًاOct 26 02:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] You are closer, true.Oct 26 02:32
schestowitz"*Thumbs down* BOOO!! " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/675109Oct 26 02:39
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schestowitz"So many people have wanted a #dislike button on Facebook. "Oct 26 02:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels nowOct 26 02:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels nowOct 26 02:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] http://t.co/eFX0dxGf al-Akhbar | العالم يحارب ويكيليكسOct 26 02:47
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schestowitz"Some people just don't understand why someone would create something and give it away for free. "Oct 26 02:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Identizens I love most of you. The rest of you may be good people# Tzaf sleep tight.Oct 26 02:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !linuxlibre 3.0.8-libre sources now availableOct 26 02:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] That was a nice thing to say and reciprocated rememberedOct 26 03:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] Beat the Banks! !WikiLeaks now supports SMS, C/D cards and other indirect donation methods http://ur1.ca/5i6voOct 26 03:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #tzaf identizens sleep tight.Oct 26 03:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Shared a post "If you're too young to remember what "website design" in the late 90's looked like..." https://plus.goog... http://b1t.it/Kr0Oct 26 03:55
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nandan Vaidya - Google+ - If you're too young to remember what "website design" in… .::. Size~: 43.34 KBOct 26 03:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] USA nut says "I do not want to sound like a nut"Oct 26 03:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] #TSEliot kind of sounds like #FestivalOct 26 04:00
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DaemonFChttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2119395/microsoft-youtube-account-hackedOct 26 04:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft youtube account gets hacked- The Inquirer .::. Size~: 64.85 KBOct 26 04:13
DaemonFC[23:09] <DaemonFC> Apple's app store is littered with apps such as "create fake college degrees" and "press this button to make fart and poop sounds"Oct 26 04:26
DaemonFC[23:09] <DaemonFC> and they've banned free softwareOct 26 04:26
DaemonFC[23:09] <DaemonFC> there needs to be a social stigma attached to using iOS, the Internet Explorer 6 of mobile operating systemsOct 26 04:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] " These are the voyages of the desk ship QWERTY... " http://ur1.ca/5i7heOct 26 04:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: M Monica - Google+ - Think about it. ;) .::. Size~: 57.9 KBOct 26 04:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] I suppose you would have to. :-)Oct 26 04:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Shared a post "Why Twitter = concise is a myth. The big difference between Twitter and Google+ is that Twitter's 140-... http://b1t.it/Ks2Oct 26 04:40
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DaemonFChttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2117645/china-apple-supplier-plant-closure-environmental-concernsOct 26 04:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: China orders apple supplier plant closure over environmental concerns- The Inquirer .::. Size~: 74.87 KBOct 26 04:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] EPIC #FAIL from WB http://ur1.ca/5i7m9Oct 26 04:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: glyn moody - Google+ - How film studios keep getting it wrong: Warner pulling… .::. Size~: 48.48 KBOct 26 04:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Is #b2g the new non-failure destined for success? Tizen? Both? I find it interesting that they are approaching the problem from two ends.Oct 26 04:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] In this particular case, identi.ca groups may work as an acronym expander. :-) http://identi.ca/group/b2gOct 26 05:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Booting to the Web (boot2gecko) group - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 20.64 KBOct 26 05:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Sorry, they are approaching the problem from the same end in parallel. I was thinking about #apachecallback. Still, interesting to compare.Oct 26 05:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Here's hoping the two can standardize on APIs where feasible. AFAICT this is #b2g's ambition. Don't know about #tizen.Oct 26 05:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] IBM's new chief: "Don't accept inevitable" http://ur1.ca/5i80u #ibmOct 26 05:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Now what ? http://ur1.ca/5i81dOct 26 05:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] I support #Occupy Maine and the 99% http://identi.ca/url/56137186Oct 26 05:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Great, thanks.Oct 26 05:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ lemote yeeloong freesoftware friendly netbook now available from @freedomincluded via amazon - http://ur1.ca/5i81q http://ur1.ca/5i81uOct 26 05:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Amazon.com: Lemote Yeeloong 8089_B 8.9-Inch Netbook (White): Computers & Accessories .::. Size~: 296.73 KBOct 26 05:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Ode To The First Laptop, The Corona 3 http://ur1.ca/5i871 #corona #office #businessOct 26 05:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Caroline Preston: Ode To The First Laptop, The Corona 3 .::. Size~: 184.35 KBOct 26 05:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Do you want your phone company to take more money out of your pocket every month? Didn't think so. http://identi.ca/url/56232931 #FCCOct 26 06:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Occupy Oakland: Riot police use tear gas, other weapons on protestors after chaotic day of evictions, arrests http://identi.ca/url/56233015Oct 26 06:00
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Occupy Oakland: Riot police use tear gas, other nonlethal weapons on protestors after chaotic day of evictions, arrests (UPDATED) – Boing Boing .::. Size~: 23.27 KBOct 26 06:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Occupy the laboratory http://identi.ca/url/56233108Oct 26 06:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Remarks by the President on a series of uprisings http://identi.ca/url/56233154Oct 26 06:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] DNA May Carry a Memory of Your Living Conditions From Childhood http://identi.ca/url/56233258 !scienceOct 26 06:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Haha!Oct 26 06:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Machine translation techniques attack ciphers revealing secrets of ancient German opthalmology cult http://identi.ca/url/56233410 !scienceOct 26 06:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Using machine translation techniques to attack ciphers reveals secrets of ancient German opthalmology cult - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 26.9 KBOct 26 06:05
DaemonFChttp://www.pollsb.com/photos/o/13167-next_time_try_look_hot_flush_toilet.jpgOct 26 06:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Don't blow yourself (or others) up, stop spoiling everyone else's sleep at 5:30 in the morning. Don't pollute your city... http://b1t.it/KuQOct 26 06:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nandan Vaidya - Google+ - Don't blow yourself (or others) up, stop spoiling everyone… .::. Size~: 40.42 KBOct 26 06:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] दीपावली की हार्दिक शुभकामनाये - Please Copy paste in your profile Or Retweet it. Make it "दीपावली की हार्दिक शुभकामनाये" as a TrendOct 26 06:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] blogged: Bill !C-11 : Transcription: Jesse Brown’s “Digital Lockdown” Podcast http://ur1.ca/5i9tc /cc @jessebrown @mgeistOct 26 06:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lstench #privacy “UK Parliament Debates Installing A Black Box On Your Computer”: http://bit.ly/tEVmzlOct 26 07:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] g'night !identiverse !tzafOct 26 07:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Prior Art for "slide to unlock" :) http://ur1.ca/5ia39Oct 26 07:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] RT @x11r5 @tekk Yeah i have now been postponed until tomorrowOct 26 07:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] #net4change starting in a minute. !telecomix all around. I'm surrounded. Drums, drums in the deep...Oct 26 08:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Marcin de Kaminski (@dekaminski) on-stage. it was great to finally meet him. shortly on The Julia Group and some tech/o http://ur1.ca/5iaq0Oct 26 08:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Starting the day at #linuxconeurope. Will speak at 10:45 on Free Software policy issues - see you there!Oct 26 08:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] spamming Teh Intertubes from #net4change #n4c1 #devtalk - on the word of @dekaminski :)Oct 26 08:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Scott Lucas @ #net4change #n4c2 - "WOW". I could not word it better myself.Oct 26 08:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Hey I just started #Pino again haven't used it for a long timeOct 26 08:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] http://ur1.ca/5i1jlOct 26 08:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Oh I see #Pino still don't support proper minimization with #F15 that sucks. I gues #Hotot is the only client I now do so,Oct 26 08:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: OWS's Beef: Wall Street Isn't Winning  It's Cheating | Matt Taibbi | Rolling Stone .::. Size~: 68.65 KBOct 26 08:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] dear Scott Lucas why u so twitter-only? #net4change #n4c1 /this msg brought to you by Diaspora, through Identi.ca to twitterOct 26 08:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Lame excuse of not making shareable earlier ".. "investor community skeptical about that and worried” about open policy" http://ur1.ca/5i4ndOct 26 08:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] games delivered via the web only direct to a console would be ideal for publishers #DRM destroying the pre-owned market #KPOOct 26 08:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: In Victory for Open-Education Movement, Blackboard Embraces Sharing - Wired Campus - The Chronicle of Higher Education .::. Size~: 51.03 KBOct 26 08:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] rather than generic consoles, consoles withour any removable media ports or games on removable media is likely #Cloud deliveryOct 26 08:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] also @eaworldview - maybe a Creative Commons license is in order? that would work with "gatekeepers are no more" ;) #net4change #n4c1Oct 26 08:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Scott Lucas (@eaworldview) "the virtual cannot replace the face to face" +1 on that. #net4change #n4c1Oct 26 08:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks Funding Killed by Corporations (video) | TYT http://t.co/aw4vRrPdOct 26 08:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] interesting. my #net4change msgs don't seem to get to the hashtag feed, even though they do get on twitter...Oct 26 09:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] so we even have people from Uzbekistan. that is fantastic! #net4change #n4c1 #devtalksOct 26 09:08
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schestowitz"The boo was at the thought of Microsoft playing these sorts of games with citizens. "Oct 26 09:16
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/675109Oct 26 09:17
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schestowitz"The problem is that the lobbyist, ACT, pretends to represent the citizens by extension (3000 SMEs). It's a lie."Oct 26 09:17
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84795783Oct 26 09:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Added to feed readerOct 26 09:22
schestowitzoh, another article with techrighyts in it this morning... http://www.telekom-presse.at/ACT_sowie_Microsoft_Lobbyist_Florian_Mueller_unterstuetzen_Apple_gegen_HTC.id.17406.htmOct 26 09:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] and we're at the coffee/tea break. how come noplain black tea available? had to gofor Earl Gray. dissapoint. ;) #net4changeOct 26 09:25
MinceRgeekingsOct 26 09:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] battery... dying... have to send... one... last... msg... viva la #net4change! :)Oct 26 09:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Shopping in Romania http://ur1.ca/5icba more #linux machines made availableOct 26 09:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Murdoch's Fox News [IMG] http://ur1.ca/5icbk #foxOct 26 09:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Could Red Hat be in line for more government contracts? http://is.gd/Rtf70I #redhat #gnu #linuxOct 26 09:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Jacob @ioerror Appelbaum on the #net4change #n4c1 stage, talking about the police state - like the USA.Oct 26 09:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Could Red Hat be in line for more government contracts?  - Triangle Business Journal .::. Size~: 86.45 KBOct 26 09:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @ioerror: the Internet and a cell phone are surveillance devices and the network effect requires you to use them #net4change #n4c1Oct 26 10:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Slavery [IMG] http://ur1.ca/5icc7Oct 26 10:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #FreeBSD 8.2 review http://ur1.ca/5icjg "using a 10-year-old Tiny desktop for this review."Oct 26 10:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @ioerror @ #net4change #n4c1 "you are the bad person for somebody, somewhere"Oct 26 10:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @ioerror: "the law enforcement arguments from authority and have no corroborating data" #net4change #n4c1Oct 26 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] that rings very well with the push for evidence-based policy making - bring the data, not the authority #net4change #n4c1Oct 26 10:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @ioerror: "how well do you control your infrastructure? right now - you don't. at all" #net4change #n4c1Oct 26 10:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Great video of SELinux, OpenShift and the Cloud - http://ur1.ca/5iclxOct 26 10:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @ioerror: "if you're on twitter you're a product" and the privacy policy is a failure, and not a transparent one #net4change #n4c1Oct 26 10:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @ioerror: "we are using an Internet that by default gathers private information on us" #net4change #n4c1Oct 26 10:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @ioerror on Tails ( http://tails.boum.org/ ) as the privacy tool done right. hell yeah, gonna try it! #net4change #n4c1Oct 26 10:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @ioerror: "software needs to operate safely and with privacy in mind - by default" #net4change #n4c1Oct 26 10:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tails - Privacy for anyone anywhere .::. Size~: 5.16 KBOct 26 10:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @ioerror "we need !FreeSoftware, Free Hardware, we need that for our privacy" #net4change #n4c1Oct 26 10:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @ioerror on The TORouter - whoa, great idea: http://ur1.ca/5icsf #net4change #n4c1Oct 26 10:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Yocto 1.1 released http://ur1.ca/5icteOct 26 10:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @ioerror: "most terrorism is now carried out by our governments" #net4change #n4c1Oct 26 10:33
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84799304Oct 26 10:34
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Oct-11 09:00:48 UTC - Identi.ca: #KWin meets QML http://ur1.ca/5ichj #kde #linuxOct 26 10:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ¿y si una niña interesada se pone a leer una Biblia infantil, pero ya en Génesis comenta “¡qué raro! esa Biblia no me parece correcta!”?Oct 26 10:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @ioerror: "if google provided encryption by default for all services, data retention probes towards it would be useless" #net4change #n4c1Oct 26 10:40
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schestowitzmorning, iophkOct 26 10:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Oooh @telecomix on-stage at #net4change #n4c1 - goo kewl ppl and jellyfish! we come from Teh Internets. we come in peace!Oct 26 10:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] According to a Forrester analyst (troll post), "iOS and Android virtually killed Linux" #LOL - Android powered by Linux http://is.gd/gW9Wh2Oct 26 10:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Female FOSS dev quits tech industry due to harassment http://is.gd/523rD4 nothing to do with FOSS, maybe w/ CS/men.Oct 26 10:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Sabayon #Linux in Review http://ur1.ca/5id1v #desktopOct 26 10:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Cameron of @telecomix on #StreisandProject h t t p : / / s t r e i s a n d . m e / (and fsck twitter's url shorteners) #net4changeOct 26 10:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When it suits Microsoft FUD meisters, Linux is a whole "OS". When it suits another Microsoft FUD meister, Linux "is a kernel". #FUDOct 26 10:57
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iophkhttp://9to5mac.com/2011/10/25/slide-to-unlock-patented/Oct 26 10:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slide to Unlock? Patented! |  9to5Mac | Apple Intelligence .::. Size~: 52.67 KBOct 26 10:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When Google releases no source code, it's called "proprietary". When Google releases source code, Microsoft calls it "proprietary".Oct 26 10:58
schestowitziophk: famous one..Oct 26 11:00
schestowitzthere is prior art I think :-)Oct 26 11:00
schestowitzGo to the meadows :-)Oct 26 11:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft FUD used to require lengthy rebuttals. Now it is such utter BS that a 140-char message suffices. How sad for Microsoft...Oct 26 11:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] WUT? "Apple granted patent on slide to unlock" http://ur1.ca/5id4u #PatentAbsurdityOct 26 11:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple Granted Patent For Slide To Unlock - Slashdot .::. Size~: 105.57 KBOct 26 11:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Cameron of @telecomix "if you do something great on Teh Intertubes, tell the world and show your work" #net4change #n4c1Oct 26 11:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Slide to Unlock? Patented! http://is.gd/IL3PY5 Hmmm... I think I've seen it before. Oh, right... http://is.gd/Oz2BYSOct 26 11:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Dear @telecomix, on #jan25 your twitter and http://ur1.ca/uwe6 accounts were so active they were basically IRC re-imple http://ur1.ca/5id60Oct 26 11:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 4 Beautiful #GNOME 3.2 Themes http://is.gd/cIRfHL http://is.gd/ELFpaL #gnome3Oct 26 11:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻@n4c_martin: "There are many things you can do from your couch, [you] can help people without putting yourself in danger" #n4c1 #net4changeOct 26 11:13
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schestowitz"Where would we be if #Apple had invented the wheel, the hinge, discovered fire...? Arhhgh!!!" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/676464Oct 26 11:14
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Diablo-D3hehOct 26 11:14
schestowitzApple did invent those things !! Well, so it claims..Oct 26 11:14
Diablo-D3we'd have better third party versions of the wheel, the hinge, and fire from open source companies.Oct 26 11:14
Diablo-D3so Im not seeing a problem hereOct 26 11:14
Diablo-D3for every thing apple makes, someone else makes a better oneOct 26 11:15
Diablo-D3and its kind of depressing reallyOct 26 11:15
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/OCZ-Octane-and-RevoDrive-Hybrid/?kc=rssOct 26 11:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: OCZ unveils 'first' 2.5-inch SSD with 1TB, plus PCI Express-based hybrid - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 57.5 KBOct 26 11:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cryptoboffin: Microsoft prison boot a boon for spooks' spyware http://ur1.ca/5idbgOct 26 11:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cryptoboffin: Secure boot a boon for spooks' spyware • The Register .::. Size~: 27.13 KBOct 26 11:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] KDE4: "Linux and FOSS are taking the lead" http://ur1.ca/5i4d9 #kdeOct 26 11:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] All patents are theft http://ur1.ca/5idc4 #swpatsOct 26 11:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: All patents are theft | Linux User .::. Size~: 53.59 KBOct 26 11:27
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DaemonFCRyan Farmer unlocked Suicide Bombers in War Commander.Oct 26 11:29
DaemonFCThese units are willing to make the ultimate sacrifice for the cause.Oct 26 11:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Progressive are often met with scepticism from people who portray shatring of knowledge as "stealing" some "property". #propaganda induced.Oct 26 11:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Some professors still live in the past and forget what so-called "IP" laws were made for and *when*. Today we have the Internet.Oct 26 11:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In a sense, just loading any Web page is a massive copyright infringement - copying many images+text to hard drive cache.Oct 26 11:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If it were not for some sane people pointing out that the current system is arcane and out of date, the EU Commission w... http://b1t.it/KBZOct 26 11:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A Canadian student told me yesterday that university students (paying loads of money) forced to recite BSA lies in exams to ace these.Oct 26 11:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] By controlling schools, oligarchs can control perceptions and force students (young people) into particular modes of thinking.Oct 26 11:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Currently, Bill Gats takes over US schools. In the press, Microsoft 'normalises' the idea of making money from others' implementations.Oct 26 11:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] I read the #GPL & thereafter had no excuse for remaining lazy and cynical, damn it. Ignorance may not be bliss, but at least it's ignorance.Oct 26 11:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Intellectual property is the next software." -Microsoft's patent troll (world's biggest), Myhrvold http://ur1.ca/4sbyvOct 26 11:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FACTORY OF THE FUTURE? - The Daily Beast .::. Size~: 43.99 KBOct 26 11:38
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/ghabuntu/status/129143268658266112?iid=am-45140289413196251293980137&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Oct 26 11:40
TechrightsBot-tr@ghabuntu: All software is algorithm. RT @schestowitz: All patents are theft http://t.co/SfLHSCMEOct 26 11:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If many developers remain passive and not join the cause against #swpats then the "mind share" will destroy their occupation (lawyers).Oct 26 11:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New #Linux Tablet Will Have #Android 2.3 Gingerbread http://is.gd/eyyWHx FOSS aplenty, Microsoft taxes itOct 26 11:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Microsoft is fast earning the reputation of being a troll instead of an innovator in the mobile space." http://is.gd/CrAiYK #swpatsOct 26 11:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If a bit of thinking was all it took to replace Microsoft, then Microsoft and Cult of Gates (thuggish lobbyists) would ... http://b1t.it/KCkOct 26 11:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "I wrote a program from scratch. Bill & Steve (Ballmer), do I have your permission to sell it?" #swpats #corruption #ricoactOct 26 11:52
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84801350Oct 26 11:53
TechrightsBot-tr@Johnny Null (johnnynull)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Oct-11 10:44:39 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz so what do you feel is our best option?Oct 26 11:53
schestowitzI only spread information, I don't organise physical protestsOct 26 11:54
schestowitz"They have to find a "vehicle" for Symphony. But I don't think they're choosing the best strategy, and anyway the whole idea of ignoring LibreOffice and starting a fork with the original trademark is a flawed idea. " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/647107Oct 26 11:55
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DaemonFChttp://clang.llvm.org/comparison.html#gccOct 26 11:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Comparing clang to other open source compilers .::. Size~: 11.92 KBOct 26 11:56
DaemonFC"GCC is licensed under the GPL license. clang uses a BSD license, which allows it to be used by projects that do not themselves want to be GPL."Oct 26 11:56
DaemonFCCompiling with GCC does not mean that what you compile has to be licensed under the GPLOct 26 11:56
DaemonFClinking against GNU libc does not mean your product has to be licensed under the GPL (because GNU libc is LGPL)Oct 26 11:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What Would Happen if #GoldmanSachs Disappeared? http://is.gd/Ipdx8j like querying about the end of cancer. #banking #corruption #bailoutOct 26 11:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What Would Happen if Goldman Sachs Disappeared? — DollarCollapse.com .::. Size~: 89.24 KBOct 26 11:58
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84801523Oct 26 11:59
TechrightsBot-tr@Alexandre Oliva (lxoliva)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Oct-11 10:54:01 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz not a far cry from “do I have your permission to sell it to your customers?” as enforced by crappstoreOct 26 11:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] RT @skwashd: "Confirmation of your registration to linux.conf.au 2012" sitting in my inbox! #lca2012 <-- Woohoo! Welcome Dave!Oct 26 12:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google’s Android beats Apple in mobile app downloads http://is.gd/VoHwp0 and then came out the knives (Apple)...Oct 26 12:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Android 4.0 gets ASLR to improve security http://is.gd/KZsibN Microsoft folks/bots like Ed Bott will still spead "malware" FUD.Oct 26 12:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google’s Android beats Apple in mobile app downloads | ZDNet .::. Size~: 143.35 KBOct 26 12:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #TZAG identizens If I upset anyone yesterday my apologies. It was not the cider's fault it was mine !ddadOct 26 12:05
DaemonFChttp://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?23350-Clang-Chromium-ZFS-Improve-On-FreeBSD&p=235335&posted=1#post235335Oct 26 12:05
DaemonFC:)Oct 26 12:05
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84801598Oct 26 12:06
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Oct-11 10:58:51 UTC - Identi.ca: #GoldmanSachs v. Occupy Wall Street: A Greg Palast Investigation http://is.gd/yF2zpB 0.01% steals from the rest, then attacks it.Oct 26 12:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux/Android is Eating Windows Fortress of Cardboard http://is.gd/n5nXyI #microsoft #formfactor #windows #linuxOct 26 12:07
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DaemonFCGPL hating DaleksOct 26 12:07
DaemonFCBSD peopleOct 26 12:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Free Software Foundation: 16,000 people have signed "Stand up for your freedom to install free software" #fsfOct 26 12:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @schestowitz All patents are theft http://ur1.ca/5idcu #swpatsOct 26 12:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: All patents are theft | Linux User .::. Size~: 54.47 KBOct 26 12:08
DaemonFCBSD systems only tend to be more "coherent" than a Linux distribution if you only use the core system, which means that X and everything that runs under it doesn't countOct 26 12:09
DaemonFCand they've all left the BSDs behindOct 26 12:09
DaemonFCand just because something is more uniform doesn't mean it is betterOct 26 12:10
DaemonFCGNOME 3 is very uniformly designedOct 26 12:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] You have four days' left of Early Bird Rego!!!! #LCA2012Oct 26 12:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] PMQ's is supposed to be the PM ANSWERING questions, it's no wonder the people have given up on politicians #politicsOct 26 12:12
schestowitzPerlow throws a hissyOct 26 12:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Defections in Wall Street [IMG] http://ur1.ca/5idt4Oct 26 12:15
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schestowitz"Mr Shuttleworth, Don’t make me angry. You wouldn’t like me when I’m angry." http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/why-ubuntu-1110-fills-me-with-rage/19103Oct 26 12:15
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iophkSo, when is the 5-year anniversary of Techrights (formerly BoycottNovell) going to be celebrated>Oct 26 12:15
iophk?Oct 26 12:15
schestowitzaround 13th IIRCOct 26 12:16
schestowitzNot sure how tor celebrate itOct 26 12:16
schestowitz*toOct 26 12:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Corporations are not people [IMG] http://ur1.ca/5idtvOct 26 12:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Again and for the last time. How is high frequency trading any different from insider trading. #bankers #corruption #technologyOct 26 12:18
DaemonFChttp://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?63740-Current-state-of-Catalyst-drivers&p=235341#post235341Oct 26 12:20
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MinceR> for every thing apple makes, someone else already made a better one years beforeOct 26 12:25
MinceRFTFYOct 26 12:25
DaemonFCMinceR: Kubuntu has a continuing project called Project Timelord Oct 26 12:27
DaemonFCso I've taken to calling the Ayatana (Unity, indicators, etc.) project "Project Dalek"Oct 26 12:27
MinceR:>Oct 26 12:27
DaemonFCCybermen are superior to Daleks in only one way!Oct 26 12:29
DaemonFCWhat is that?Oct 26 12:29
DaemonFCThey are better at DYING!Oct 26 12:29
DaemonFCEXTERMINATE!!!Oct 26 12:29
DaemonFC:DOct 26 12:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Cameron talking about gangs at pmq's. Bullingdon club thug running the country.Oct 26 12:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Dziś wygasł patent na klocki LEGO -- nareszcie możemy robić własne klocki. Shit just got LEGO'd. :DOct 26 12:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] dear #net4change, during your lunchbreak, please reflect on the fact that yesterday the LEGO patent expired. fun is imp http://ur1.ca/5ie37Oct 26 12:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] The good, the bad and the ill-fitting: our response to the t-shirt issue http://bit.ly/uniLRP #LCA2012Oct 26 12:35
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DaemonFChttp://boingboing.net/2005/11/17/judge-to-lego-your-p.htmlOct 26 12:36
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DaemonFCtheir patent expired in Canada a while backOct 26 12:36
DaemonFC"In other words, Lego argues that its customers are so stupid that they need to be protected from their inability to distinguish official Lego from lower-cost competing products, and the government should therefore ensure that no one ever undercuts their pricing."Oct 26 12:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻@sirmacik Już w najbliższy piątek zapraszamy na urodzinowe spotkanie @linuxwbramie w @bramalab pod patronatem @fwioo i WEiTI t.co/3iWLkzA8Oct 26 12:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] OOOH UNDERGROUND FIREWORKS FOR #NET4CHANGE! /construction under city just got us all a jolt with some serious explosions heard and felt :)Oct 26 12:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] so we're back on track, with Women's Learning Partnership on-stage. #net4change #n4c1Oct 26 12:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Bilbo lobbies to make burglary legal under certain circumstances, then claims he broke no rules at Smaug's mountain #LOTR #politicsOct 26 12:45
DaemonFCschestowitz: You figure it would help if lawyers brought some crayons and construction paper to court to draw out to the jury how software patents and lego block patents should be treated the same way Oct 26 12:45
DaemonFC:)Oct 26 12:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @bramalab: Jesteśmy na #net4change: http://ur1.ca/5ie9s | we're at #net4change: http://ur1.ca/5ie9vOct 26 12:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Banking and farming if you loose money people you do not know pay your bills and you still get to feel superior.Oct 26 12:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] It's increadible what problems must women overcome in some countries #net4changeOct 26 12:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Gun glory in Libya, NTC cracks as Gaddafi buried - YouTube - #nato's murderous pals http://ur1.ca/5iebhOct 26 12:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] Thanks to our translators, the October newletter is now also available in Greek http://ur1.ca/5iebiOct 26 12:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Berlusconi managed to change enough laws to ensure he will get away with decades of #corruption scot free, before standing down #ItalyOct 26 12:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @dekaminski companies ethics are, and will be, defined by profitability. #net4change Oct 26 12:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Busby: Enriched #uranium weapons new battlefield horror - YouTube - #EU #USA #Iraq #stateterrorism http://ur1.ca/5ieccOct 26 12:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Nooo! The twitter stats for #net4change - http://ur1.ca/5iecg - started late and all the mentions of me are not in there #rage ;)Oct 26 12:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "We need everybody's collective energy to overcome gov control/mangling in Iranian elections next year" #net4changeOct 26 13:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] not sure my point got across just before the lunch - how easy software is should not be the way of choosing who uses it #net4changeOct 26 13:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] British politicians often have a New York this is my turf gang mentality when dealing with the mainland #EUOct 26 13:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Prepper Movement: Why Are Millions Of #Preppers Preparing Feverishly For The End Of The World As We Know It? - http://goo.gl/nIF9SOct 26 13:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] IBM to offer #Hadoop in its cloud - The H Open Source http://goo.gl/X2CyqOct 26 13:07
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DaemonFCYou may even have noticed that some of your relatives and friends have been storing up food and have been trying to convince you that we are on the verge of “the end of the world as we know it”. Oct 26 13:07
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0GFRcFm-aYOct 26 13:07
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DaemonFCSorry, it's the lawOct 26 13:07
DaemonFC:)Oct 26 13:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] You are on the gentle slopes of a job in academia should you wish it. I wish you the best.Oct 26 13:08
DaemonFC"thers saw what happened to so many during Hurricane Katrina are are determined not to let that happen to them."Oct 26 13:09
DaemonFClooting TVs at Walmart and shooting at the police?Oct 26 13:09
DaemonFCsounds funOct 26 13:09
DaemonFCHe says that he is “prepared for the worst” and that he and his wife “have food, we have water, we have guns, gold and silver, and cash”.Oct 26 13:11
DaemonFCsee, you have cash, gold, silver, water and foodOct 26 13:11
DaemonFCand you're outnumberedOct 26 13:11
DaemonFC:)Oct 26 13:11
MinceRtime to build a baseOct 26 13:11
MinceR:>Oct 26 13:11
DaemonFCclearly a great plan for survivalOct 26 13:12
DaemonFCMinceR: How many starving people do you figure a couple of guns are going to hold back?Oct 26 13:12
DaemonFCdo you think he's considered this?Oct 26 13:12
MinceRdepends on the tactical situation and how much ammo they've gotOct 26 13:13
MinceR:>Oct 26 13:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Android 4.0 gets #ASLR to improve #security - The H Open Source - http://goo.gl/CrcjcOct 26 13:13
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DaemonFCif there are too many, he could always eat the gunOct 26 13:13
DaemonFCgood source of ironOct 26 13:13
MinceRlolOct 26 13:13
DaemonFClittle high in lead Oct 26 13:14
MinceRthat iron is not biologically available, thoughOct 26 13:14
DaemonFCyou won't need it for longOct 26 13:14
DaemonFC:)Oct 26 13:14
DaemonFCmy grandmother still had expired cans of food from Y2KOct 26 13:14
DaemonFCwell, I say that as if it's the worst thing I found in her pantryOct 26 13:15
DaemonFCI found a can of spaghetti-o's that expired in 1978Oct 26 13:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Researchers find holes in the #cloud - The H Open Source - #security http://goo.gl/ly8ZDOct 26 13:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] sad more #WarsawHackerspace guys could not come. they would fit just right in #net4changeOct 26 13:15
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DaemonFChttp://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Avira-anti-virus-detects-itself-1367055.htmlOct 26 13:17
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DaemonFChttp://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Ubuntu-members-come-from-Europe-and-US-and-want-more-representation-1366819.htmlOct 26 13:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu members come from Europe and US and want more representation - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 41.49 KBOct 26 13:18
DaemonFCAccording to the survey, almost half of the contributors who officially work on the development and translation of Ubuntu, or provide support and community support, live in Europe. A further third live in the US, followed by South America.Oct 26 13:18
DaemonFCIt comes as no surprise that, while members are generally satisfied with Ubuntu and with their community contributions, they have complained that they are not consulted by Canonical when decisions are made.Oct 26 13:18
DaemonFCof course :)Oct 26 13:18
iophkhttp://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/forget-foss-advertising-watch-out-fud-mongeriOct 26 13:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] 7 Billion and counting. So many useless economically unproductive people keep breeding and expect us to look after them. Can you believe it?Oct 26 13:18
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iophkDaemonFC: you mean like with Mono?Oct 26 13:19
DaemonFCrefer to the potted plant and the house example given by Mark ShuttleworthOct 26 13:19
iophkWhich potted plant?Oct 26 13:19
DaemonFCthey own the "house" even though it's mostly build out of free software they scavenged elsewhereOct 26 13:20
DaemonFCif you come up and offer them a plant on the condition that you can come back and water it, they'll tell you to fuck offOct 26 13:20
DaemonFC:)Oct 26 13:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Crossrider plugins are still dangerous, be careful : technology - #security #addons http://goo.gl/p69bWOct 26 13:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @vvillenave #Chomsky joins #OWS http://ur1.ca/5ieki #occupyOct 26 13:22
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DaemonFChttp://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/MyBB-downloads-were-infected-1366300.htmlOct 26 13:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Twitter To Google+ finder... #googleplus http://ur1.ca/5ieo8Oct 26 13:25
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DaemonFCschestowitz: Why do you follow survivalist crackpots?Oct 26 13:26
DaemonFCjust because they're amusing to read?Oct 26 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Your dent intensified the irony. As I am sure you meant.Oct 26 13:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] What's new in #Linux 3.1 - The H Open Source - #kernel http://goo.gl/KE5cvOct 26 13:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] waaait, I'm confused. is it #net4change, #n4c1 or #jan25 as on the screen? ;)Oct 26 13:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @rbanffy: RT @JPBarlow The most insidious form of government is plutocracy disguised as democracy.Oct 26 13:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ooh, @salmasaid on stage at #net4change. great!Oct 26 13:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] sorry for being annoying but could we please get the Khaled Saed backdrop full-screened so that windoze is hidden? ;) #net4changeOct 26 13:33
DaemonFChttp://thedilbertstore.com/images/products/72/90662-321.jpgOct 26 13:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "Sticks and stones can break police's bones/but twitters can only inform about them" so to say #net4changeOct 26 13:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] CDS-PP e BE a favor da prescrição de fármacos pelo princípio activo - TSF - #PT http://goo.gl/0u8YEOct 26 13:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I had to look that up. Apple only ?Oct 26 13:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] well, there goes that nice image of "non-violent" Egyptian revolution. for better or for worse. but for truth (and grea http://ur1.ca/5ies2Oct 26 13:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "We are living under a military dictatorship" and a new Mubarak in power; peaceful protests vs tanks #net4change #n4c1Oct 26 13:38
DaemonFChttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAwNTkOct 26 13:39
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DaemonFCMono integration is a goal of WineOct 26 13:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] just recorded my 1st screencast in ages, with a new look wallpaper, depending on the results, it may be released tonight or tomorrowOct 26 13:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] yeah this "no such user" error message, then refresh anyway on #gwibber is inspiringOct 26 13:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] You have to work in your own yard #net4change #n4c1Oct 26 13:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] New denial of service tool knocks out encrypting servers - The H #Security - #crypto #SSL http://goo.gl/Ve4ZkOct 26 13:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Save the army from those awful Christians with guns - that's the message in Egyptian media #net4change #n4c1Oct 26 13:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] If NATO wanted regime change in Italy. Berlusconi would be an easy bad bloke they could make us angry with. But hey they do not.Oct 26 13:55
DaemonFChttp://web.archive.org/web/20000824141023/http://www.mercurycenter.com/archives/dilbert/mission_statement.htmlOct 26 13:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Kernel Summit day 2 reports available http://ur1.ca/5if17Oct 26 13:58
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oiaohmBoy the new nokia windows phone 7 look very pox for the specs.Oct 26 14:01
MinceRDaemonFC: lolOct 26 14:02
MinceRoiaohm: as pleasant as getting pox?Oct 26 14:03
oiaohmMinceR: Really I see the price of china made android clones.Oct 26 14:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @n4c_martin: Why do we let companies like Google and Facebook control something as important as our identities? #n4c2 #net4changeOct 26 14:03
oiaohmMinceR: 100 dollar china clone phone has more specs.Oct 26 14:03
MinceRsure, but that doesn't have the original Microsoft® product that makes it unusableOct 26 14:04
MinceRand it doesn't have the Nokia® logo on it either :>Oct 26 14:04
oiaohmYes that is also very interesting but we did not see the back face of the phone.Oct 26 14:04
MinceR:>Oct 26 14:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @n4c_karin: We only have 7 million Facebook users, we are 90 million ppl in total. @salmasaid #net4change #n4c1Oct 26 14:05
DaemonFCI'm confused whey writing Nokia on the phone makes it more valuable Oct 26 14:05
DaemonFCI'm missing somethingOct 26 14:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] I would like to apologise my Diaspora followers for all my spam today; but then, #net4change is an extremely important http://ur1.ca/5ifccOct 26 14:07
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MinceRwell, it used to mean somethingOct 26 14:07
DaemonFChttp://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/defective-ipad.jpgOct 26 14:08
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DaemonFCI like thatOct 26 14:08
oiaohmMinceR: who says they don't have Mirosoft branded nice and big on the back.Oct 26 14:10
MinceRi didn't say they didn't have itOct 26 14:10
MinceRin fact, they even had it on winblows mobile devicesOct 26 14:10
*DaemonFC wonders why people want to work for a company that makes them take 6-7 interviewsOct 26 14:11
MinceRiirc one of the buttons is required to have a winblows logo alsoOct 26 14:11
MinceRDaemonFC: why not?Oct 26 14:11
DaemonFCit's clear that means they don't think enough of you to send you to someone with hiring authority Oct 26 14:11
MinceRDaemonFC: or they're screening applicants very carefullyOct 26 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I thought I saw the flagpoles in Brussels for the first time without regional flags and replaced with multiple #EU flags. #goodOct 26 14:12
DaemonFCMinceR: That Google pervert that was stalking underage girls using their Google accounts went through that "rigorous screening"Oct 26 14:13
DaemonFC:)Oct 26 14:13
DaemonFCdoes it really work?Oct 26 14:13
MinceRi doubt they were aiming to filter perverts outOct 26 14:14
MinceR:>Oct 26 14:14
oiaohmhttp://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/495068089/Shenzhen_Manufacturer_Wholesale_Android_Tablet_Capacitive.html  Some how I think this item is suspect.Oct 26 14:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Shenzhen Manufacturer Wholesale Android Tablet Capacitive 10inch Screen 3G&Phone built-in products, buy Shenzhen Manufacturer Wholesale Android Tablet Capacitive 10inch Screen 3G&Phone built-in products from alibaba.com .::. Size~: 100.24 KBOct 26 14:14
MinceRcomes with Microsoft® Android®?Oct 26 14:14
MinceRuh, i mean Microsoft® Windows™ Android®Oct 26 14:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] precisely why i'm so concerned so many floss projects use it. github won't even make a "if we die, it goes open" commitment (i asked)Oct 26 14:15
DaemonFCMinceR: I wonder where he works nowOct 26 14:16
DaemonFCprobably making pizzas at DominosOct 26 14:16
MinceRwhy not DumbFuckBook or m$?Oct 26 14:16
oiaohmMinceR: Read the contained software and the price tag.Oct 26 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] I had the privilege to be with @telecomix during first of 18 days, watching Al Jazeera; it was great the other perspective now #net4changeOct 26 14:17
oiaohm$250 to 300 USD for MS Windows unltimate + MS Office and all the other software.  I think we can say pirate.Oct 26 14:17
oiaohmAndroid is is most likely the most above board bit of software on it.Oct 26 14:18
MinceRicOct 26 14:18
MinceRyarr!Oct 26 14:18
DaemonFC[09:16] <crazedpsyc> oh gawd, steven tyler broke his teeth by falling in his shower. whoaa. that's breaking news. >_>Oct 26 14:20
DaemonFC[09:16] <-- n1md4 has left this server (Quit: leaving).Oct 26 14:20
DaemonFC[09:16] <DaemonFC> who is that?Oct 26 14:20
DaemonFC[09:16] <crazedpsyc> ^_^Oct 26 14:20
DaemonFC[09:17] <crazedpsyc> lead singer from aerosmithOct 26 14:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Microsoft's Opening Statement in Novell v. MS Contradicted ~ pj - Updated 3Xs: http://is.gd/Bi4u3f #microsoft #novell #antitrustOct 26 14:20
DaemonFC[09:17] <DaemonFC> oh yeah, I remember them from that Revolution X arcade gameOct 26 14:20
DaemonFC[09:17] <DaemonFC> that thing cheated meOct 26 14:20
DaemonFC[09:18] <crazedpsyc> o.oOct 26 14:20
DaemonFC[09:18] <DaemonFC> thought I was going to get to machine gun AerosmithOct 26 14:20
DaemonFC[09:18] <DaemonFC> and it turns out you have to protect themOct 26 14:20
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DaemonFC[09:19] <DaemonFC> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_XOct 26 14:20
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oiaohmMinceR: serouslaly you get dual sim and dual cam phones for under 100 dollars from china.Oct 26 14:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Come to the coffee break. We have cookies. #net4changeOct 26 14:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Suse working on private OpenStack cloud (InfoWorld): http://bit.ly/tU3yZ4Oct 26 14:23
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oiaohmO my you can still by windows moble 6.5 phones new from china.Oct 26 14:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I have been following events in #Libya longer than most. It is now a low conflict area. Not necessarily in NATO's interest.Oct 26 14:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Making use of your older #hardware with Linux/BSD - #floss #tips http://goo.gl/D80wXOct 26 14:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] Chennai is filled with smoke; visibility is poor due to snow/rain and smoke from the crackers. #diwaliOct 26 14:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] #Diaspora's mobile interface is great, I just wish it would have the small quirks resolved (like having to change the U http://ur1.ca/5ifqsOct 26 14:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] How to Make a Basic Intrusion Detection System with #Bash - #floss #tips http://goo.gl/OOPAcOct 26 14:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Female FOSS dev quits tech industry due to harassment http://ur1.ca/5ifsd #opensourceOct 26 14:45
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/agente_smithe/statuses/129162374841241600Oct 26 14:46
TechrightsBot-tr@agente_smithe: @schestowitz Uh, uh, I take ZDnet's articles with a grain of salt. It was the same person who wrote iPad would dominate until 2017Oct 26 14:46
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/agente_smithe/statuses/129162578353061890Oct 26 14:46
TechrightsBot-tr@agente_smithe: @schestowitz And Vi$ta 8 would be 2nd place (ludicrous)Oct 26 14:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] What Open Source Can Learn From Steve Jobs, Part 1 http://ur1.ca/5iftf #opensourceOct 26 14:47
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schestowitz[13:18] <iophk> http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/forget-foss-advertising-watch-out-fud-mongeriOct 26 14:47
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schestowitzI saw thatOct 26 14:47
schestowitzTypical IDGOct 26 14:47
schestowitzIn This site they use a lot of faux FOSSOct 26 14:47
schestowitz!google microsoft we love open sourceOct 26 14:48
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Microsoft: 'We love open source' | http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/082310-microsoft-open-source.htmlOct 26 14:48
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - We love open source, says Microsoft - Telegraph | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/microsoft/7961643/We-love-open-source-says-Microsoft.htmlOct 26 14:48
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Microsoft Tactic: We Love Open Source, But Those 'Zealots' Don't ... | http://techrights.org/2010/08/25/fauxpen-source-microsoft-idg/Oct 26 14:48
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Linux Today - Microsoft: 'We love open source' | http://www.linuxtoday.com/it_management/2010082400735NWMSOct 26 14:48
DaemonFCI'd love patent farming tooOct 26 14:49
DaemonFClots of money to be made clogging up the courtsOct 26 14:49
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/gh_geek/status/129143275817930752Oct 26 14:49
TechrightsBot-tr@gh_geek: All software is algorithm. RT @schestowitz: All patents are theft http://t.co/oJmSIGsVOct 26 14:49
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schestowitzif a computer can be used to 'steal' ideas, then lego too can be used to steal :-)Oct 26 14:49
schestowitzTax lego like the MAFIAA taxes blank CDs :-)Oct 26 14:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] For some politicians in Britain it is just the next step up in !capitalismOct 26 14:50
DaemonFCthey only do that in Canada iircOct 26 14:51
DaemonFCVote SaxonOct 26 14:52
MinceRVote Anglo-SaxonOct 26 14:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Now, through a webcast, on Internet in Syria at #net4change #OpSyriaOct 26 14:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @frabad: Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies. — Friedrich Nietzsche #qOct 26 14:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Why would they do that?Oct 26 14:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] HTML5 may dominate the enterprise market (Register/Asay): http://bit.ly/rGJ1pmOct 26 14:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Nokia gives Qt open-source governance - agreement suck - maybe it's time to Fork QT: http://is.gd/mh7Ui5 #forkQT #freesoftwareOct 26 15:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Marketing eh?Oct 26 15:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Anonymous shuts down child porn sites, leaks usernames (HelpNet): http://bit.ly/tmUtsWOct 26 15:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] TUTORIAL - Gravando lâminas por eletroquímica. Mais simples, impossível. - The Knife Network Forums - #tips http://goo.gl/dkH4vOct 26 15:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Teeth... it is like looking at the skull before people die..just saying.Oct 26 15:07
schestowitzjono: there is a legitimate grievance in your community over DellOct 26 15:11
schestowitzjono: you need to address this issue http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1851654Oct 26 15:11
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schestowitzjono: you cannot avo9id this subjectOct 26 15:11
schestowitzit fractures your communityOct 26 15:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] It is quite embarrassing when my phone plays "stop that pigeon" when a message arrives in quiet and in public. But I like it.Oct 26 15:12
schestowitzwe need to stand united and strong against corruption like kicbacks and briberyOct 26 15:12
schestowitzjono: if we turn a blid eye, canonical will end up like progenyOct 26 15:13
DaemonFCLinspire Oct 26 15:13
schestowitzThem too Oct 26 15:13
schestowitz!google walmart techrightsOct 26 15:13
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - “Walmart is No Longer Carrying the Zune“ and Microsoft's - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/08/11/gates-subsidized-walmart-and-zune/Oct 26 15:13
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - The Gates Foundation Nearly Doubles Its Investment in Walmart ... | http://techrights.org/2010/05/24/walmart-and-gmo-in-india/Oct 26 15:13
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Walmart Chairman, Warren Buffett, Notorious Bankers ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/05/24/murdochsoft-and-lobbying-event/Oct 26 15:13
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Microsoft Does Not Rebut Claims of Silverlight Demise ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/08/27/personal-attacks-vs-reports/Oct 26 15:13
schestowitzIn short, Microsoft created a :"taskforce" to remove linspire from walmartOct 26 15:13
schestowitzy the time we got evidence of these crimes Linspire was already deadOct 26 15:14
MinceRso much like the cult of $cientologyOct 26 15:14
schestowitzjono: be proactive on this subjectOct 26 15:14
schestowitz!google walmart techrights linpireOct 26 15:14
TechrightsBot-trNo Google resultsOct 26 15:14
schestowitz!google walmart techrights linspireOct 26 15:14
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Links 4/1/2011: Linux is Everywhere, GNU/Linux to be ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/01/04/linux-to-be-sold-in-walmart/Oct 26 15:14
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Walmart Chairman, Warren Buffett, Notorious Bankers ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/05/24/murdochsoft-and-lobbying-event/Oct 26 15:14
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - “Walmart is No Longer Carrying the Zune“ and Microsoft's - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/08/11/gates-subsidized-walmart-and-zune/Oct 26 15:14
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - 2011 January 04 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/01/04/Oct 26 15:14
schestowitzoddly enough it doesn't come up..Oct 26 15:15
schestowitzRaised to jono...Oct 26 15:15
DaemonFCWalmart used to sell Linspire on a few laptopsOct 26 15:15
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2009/01/22/microsoft-taskforce-vs-walmart-linux/Oct 26 15:15
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schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2009/06/03/sub-notebooks-linux-taskforces/Oct 26 15:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What Microsoft’s Anti-Linux Taskforce in Wal-Mart Teaches Us About Sub-notebooks | Techrights .::. Size~: 128.82 KBOct 26 15:15
DaemonFCif you got WAY back, Walmart used to sell Mandrake Linux box setsOct 26 15:15
schestowitzMicrosoft might be doing the same to Ubuntu at DellOct 26 15:15
schestowitzjono: "We need to slaughter Novell before they get stronger….If you’re going to kill someone, there isn’t much reason to get all worked up about it and angry. You just pull the trigger. Any discussions beforehand are a waste of time. We need to smile at Novell while we pull the trigger."Oct 26 15:16
schestowitzJim Allchin, Microsoft's Platform Group Vice PresidentOct 26 15:16
schestowitzThey killed NovellOct 26 15:16
schestowitzThey were then after UbuntuOct 26 15:16
schestowitzDon't let them do thuis to you after you estaqblished Ubuntu as synonymous with Linux desktopsOct 26 15:16
oiaohmThe issue here is if Ubuntu does not get its act in order the world might shift to where ubuntu is dead.Oct 26 15:17
oiaohmLeaving only Android and tizen.Oct 26 15:17
schestowitzMicrosoft is smiling and laughingOct 26 15:17
iophkThere are two windows of opportunity for Ubuntu: the upcoming holiday season and the 12.04 releaseOct 26 15:17
oiaohmRemember MS is making more money from Android in patent payments than there own Phone OS.Oct 26 15:17
schestowitzltsOct 26 15:17
schestowitzoiaohm: so it cluamsOct 26 15:18
schestowitzcannot be verifiedOct 26 15:18
schestowitzfud factorOct 26 15:18
oiaohmReally MS is making bugger all from phones.Oct 26 15:18
schestowitzI think the vampire squid  (Goldman)g ave those speculative numbersOct 26 15:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] NATO the armed wing of business interests. They do what they do.Oct 26 15:18
schestowitzGoldman has a major inbvstor in Bill gatesOct 26 15:18
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oiaohmEven at a few dollars a unit cliamed in patents schestowitzOct 26 15:18
oiaohmAndroid numbers in volume of the people paying.Oct 26 15:19
schestowitz!google Goldman gates techrightsOct 26 15:19
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Bill Gates Dumps His Microsoft Shares and Buys Shares Of Goldman | http://techrights.org/2010/08/23/gates-foundation-financial-contributions/Oct 26 15:19
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - How the Gates Foundation is Sometimes Starving - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/09/07/banking-interests-in-africa/Oct 26 15:19
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Microfinance the Lesser-known Dark Side of the Gates ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/01/13/microloans-and-grameen-gates/Oct 26 15:19
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_CritiqueOct 26 15:19
oiaohmBig issue now is MS idea of the secure boot.Oct 26 15:19
oiaohmSo that Windows will be able to offer a secure boot and Ubuntu and other linuxs will not.Oct 26 15:19
schestowitzi have 3 blog posts to p[ublish..Oct 26 15:20
schestowitzwe need a list of anti-linux actionsOct 26 15:20
schestowitzchained to blog postsOct 26 15:20
schestowitzto serve as evidence of antitrust abusesOct 26 15:21
DaemonFCthere's a Linux 3.1 kernel in xorg-edgers nowOct 26 15:21
schestowitzmaybe a wiki page to work on during xmas..Oct 26 15:21
schestowitzwe get many links to techirghts todayOct 26 15:21
schestowitzthe post about the lobbyistsOct 26 15:21
schestowitzlike 20 links over the past 2 hoursOct 26 15:21
iophkoiaohm: "secure' boot is the soundest way to prevent dual booting, a common (perhaps the most common) way of introducing Windows victims to Linux.Oct 26 15:21
iophk* survivorsOct 26 15:22
oiaohmiophk: yep it is.Oct 26 15:22
oiaohmIf it was implemented the intel design it would not be a problem.Oct 26 15:22
*schestowitz makes blog posts (brbOct 26 15:22
oiaohmWhere owner of machine choses to  approval key to be loaded in.Oct 26 15:22
oiaohmThis could be a Linux or windows approval key.Oct 26 15:22
oiaohmMs design is basically a preloaded design with no promise of being able to load own key.Oct 26 15:23
DaemonFCnothing wrong with secure boot if the owner of the machinecan turn it offOct 26 15:23
iophkKeyword here being preloaded.Oct 26 15:23
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oiaohmDaemonFC: really still sucks.Oct 26 15:23
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iophkIt's the core of the OEM question.Oct 26 15:23
MinceRDaemonFC: would be better if the owner could load their own keys into itOct 26 15:23
oiaohmDaemonFC: idea of secure boot is to prevent intruder being able to break your boot system.Oct 26 15:24
oiaohmDaemonFC: Undetected.Oct 26 15:24
MinceRor if it was simply left out of the system entirelyOct 26 15:24
DaemonFCMinceR: You mean letting the user decide if they can trust a bootloader?Oct 26 15:24
MinceRyesOct 26 15:24
DaemonFCfat chanceOct 26 15:24
MinceRalso, letting the user protect _their_ bootloader/kernel against tamperingOct 26 15:24
oiaohmDaemonFC: If user can load key they can also remove keys that there OS does not require.Oct 26 15:24
oiaohmI can see laptops being able to load Windows 7 Windows 8 ....Oct 26 15:25
oiaohmSo a breach in the windows 7 boot loader allows you complete system to be screwed up.Oct 26 15:25
MinceRnobody should have to jailbreak their own PCOct 26 15:25
oiaohmOpps 8 and 9Oct 26 15:25
MinceRoiaohm: i don't think anyone has the illusion of winblows being actually secure this way :>Oct 26 15:25
azalynfor desktops it's not a big deal.. since diy machines will likely be able to disable that..Oct 26 15:26
oiaohmMinceR: Issue is bios lock out.Oct 26 15:26
MinceRit will hurt many users thoughOct 26 15:26
azalynbut honestly, buying a laptop will become ever more difficult.Oct 26 15:26
DaemonFCmost current Windows malware doesn't modify the boot pathOct 26 15:26
oiaohmazalyn: really even on my Linux machines I would love the intel secure boot where I can enable it.Oct 26 15:26
MinceRas if buying laptops wasn't difficult enough alreadyOct 26 15:26
DaemonFCit's not generally necessary for what most of it doesOct 26 15:26
oiaohmTo prevent intrustion.  azalynOct 26 15:26
oiaohmintel design only bios can alter the keys.Oct 26 15:26
DaemonFCthe most common reasons to modify the boot path are to crack Windows or to install a different OSOct 26 15:26
oiaohmThat requires direct access by a user.Oct 26 15:26
azalynthe worst thing is that many laptop vendors won't even *tell* you whether it's there or not.Oct 26 15:27
oiaohmRemote user cannot screw with it.Oct 26 15:27
azalyni doubt you'll see it on their bullet pointsOct 26 15:27
azalynor feature listOct 26 15:27
oiaohmazalyn: MS makes no requirement that you can turn it off.Oct 26 15:27
azalynso you won't even know if your laptop is capable of disabling it or not.Oct 26 15:27
oiaohmWe know hardware makers are liking to screw up.Oct 26 15:27
MinceRazalyn: if this goes through then the vista8 sticker will be a giveaway :>Oct 26 15:27
oiaohmWorst point is that it has to be on by default to have vista 8 sticker.Oct 26 15:27
oiaohmcmos battery fails.Oct 26 15:27
azalynMinceR: that won't tell you if it can be disabled or not.Oct 26 15:27
oiaohmnow you Linux system will not boot.Oct 26 15:27
DaemonFCright, it's not a requirement for computers that ship with Windows 8Oct 26 15:28
MinceRyou can assume that it can't be disabledOct 26 15:28
DaemonFCit's a requirement to put the sticker on the caseOct 26 15:28
MinceRespecially if you look at how m$ kept forcing the OEMs' hand so farOct 26 15:28
MinceR"whacking dell" and suchOct 26 15:28
azalynMinceR: every laptop that ships will likely eventually have a win8 sticker..Oct 26 15:28
azalynit would be useful to know which ones allow you to disable, and which don't..Oct 26 15:28
oiaohmBasically you might be able to turn it off but as soon as the cmos battery is flat you might no longer be able to turn it off.  azalynOct 26 15:28
DaemonFCthey advertise it like it was a featureOct 26 15:28
oiaohmSo locked out of your data.Oct 26 15:28
MinceRmaybe someone sane will have to get into the laptop business thenOct 26 15:28
azalynsomeone's going to have to create a database or somethingOct 26 15:28
DaemonFCwhen in fact, those stickers are really hard to peel offOct 26 15:29
oiaohmWe know bios makers have done that defect in the past.Oct 26 15:29
DaemonFCand they leave a nasty glue all over the caseOct 26 15:29
oiaohmWhere a bios with flat battery is locked to defauts.Oct 26 15:29
MinceRthere's that Lemote laptop with free softwareOct 26 15:29
azalyndoesn't that use a MIPS processor?Oct 26 15:29
MinceRit doesOct 26 15:29
azalynor am i thinking of a different oneOct 26 15:29
MinceRso it won't run winblowsOct 26 15:29
MinceR:>Oct 26 15:29
DaemonFCreally hard to buy in the USOct 26 15:29
oiaohmazalyn: Really there is a lot wrong Oct 26 15:30
DaemonFCand yes it will run Windows, through virtualization Oct 26 15:30
iophkSame for SPARC, the architecture keeps out Windows.Oct 26 15:30
MinceRnot through virtualizationOct 26 15:30
MinceRonly through emulationOct 26 15:30
azalynthat's the big issue. all the free software laptops are practically impossible to find.. unless you're richard stallman.Oct 26 15:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Really? How could you?Oct 26 15:30
DaemonFCit has x86 emulation acceleration built into the CPUOct 26 15:30
iophkLemote also has Free BIOSOct 26 15:30
MinceRthey're even more difficult to find in hungaristanOct 26 15:30
MinceRthen again, the nazis will probably scare all educated people out of the country in a few yearsOct 26 15:31
azalynall these new bios ideas are lame. the only sane future bios option is coreboot/linuxbiosOct 26 15:31
DaemonFCwe need to rewrite the constitution, MinceROct 26 15:31
DaemonFCnot enough mention of JesusOct 26 15:31
DaemonFCtoo many civil rightsOct 26 15:31
MinceRDaemonFC: they did that already hereOct 26 15:31
DaemonFC:)Oct 26 15:31
azalyni mean those guys are right. the current design is really ridiculous. you have to have three sets of drivers.. bios drivers.. bootloader drivers.. and OS drivers..Oct 26 15:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] The good: quite a few #Linux boxes visible; the bad: scores of Macs; the ugly: windoze showed up on the beamer #net4changeOct 26 15:32
azalynapparently the grub on my system doesn't have USB support, so i can't use it's menu to select options at boot with my usb keyboard.Oct 26 15:32
azalyni have to sit there and just wait for the timer to run out.Oct 26 15:32
DaemonFCit would be nice if the computer's boot firmware had OS agnostic drivers for everythingOct 26 15:32
DaemonFCit would keep the FSF from breaking hardwareOct 26 15:33
DaemonFCin their own Linux distributions and ones they mislead into removing firmwareOct 26 15:33
oiaohmazalyn coreboot has intel design secure booting.Oct 26 15:33
azalyni could force my bios to do PS/2 emulation, but then it would be PS/2 emulation system-wide.. even in the OS.Oct 26 15:33
oiaohmazalyn: ie you can add your own keys to it.Oct 26 15:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I gotsa shmexy new grungy background for my screencasts, twas time for a new look, new ep recorded with the new look, awaiting encodingOct 26 15:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @faconti: Câmara dos deputados - Resultado de enquete realizada: Você concorda com o projeto (PL 84/99) #AI5.1... 77% = Não 23% SimOct 26 15:33
oiaohmazalyn: really PS/2 emulation is lot more complex than you could dream.Oct 26 15:34
oiaohmazalyn: sony used a lot of one off chips in a PS/2Oct 26 15:34
MinceRi think i2o was about (at least partially) os-agnostic drivers, but i don't know what happened to itOct 26 15:34
azalyn...Oct 26 15:34
azalynnot Playstation 2 emulation...Oct 26 15:34
azalynPS/2Oct 26 15:35
azalynthe PS/2 ports on a pcOct 26 15:35
MinceRlolOct 26 15:35
azalynthe keyboard and mouse PS/2 ports.Oct 26 15:35
azalynyou silly bugger.Oct 26 15:35
oiaohmazalyn: wrong PS/2 okOct 26 15:35
azalynthe playstation 2 acronym is "PS2" with no slash.Oct 26 15:35
oiaohmazalyn: did not make sence because all moden boards have usb legacy mode option.Oct 26 15:35
azalynwhen there's a slash, it refers to the ports.Oct 26 15:36
oiaohmwhat is basically  pretend USB keyboard/mouse is PS/2Oct 26 15:36
oiaohmYes that is global.Oct 26 15:36
azalynyeah.. that's emulation. it's taking the USB inputs and emulating PS/2Oct 26 15:36
azalynwhich means my OS would think i have a PS/2 keyboard and mouse.Oct 26 15:36
oiaohmUSB legacy mode demards it Oct 26 15:36
oiaohmRequire to have it to be to USB spec.Oct 26 15:36
DaemonFC"I don't trust anything that the BSDaleks promote." -meOct 26 15:37
oiaohmEven some android phones can have there chip sets flicked into legacy.Oct 26 15:37
oiaohmYes having PS/2 keyboard and mouse in an arm chip is kinda wrong.Oct 26 15:38
azalynthe heck..? :|Oct 26 15:38
oiaohmUSB spec requirements.  azalynOct 26 15:38
azalynthat makes no sense.Oct 26 15:38
DaemonFCMinceR pointed me to DuckDuckGo, but the more I look, the more I find they really are just a bunch of BSDaleks who mostly scrape BingOct 26 15:38
oiaohmPS/2 keyboard and mouse can be connect to an arm chip.Oct 26 15:39
MinceRthere's also StartPage :>Oct 26 15:39
DaemonFCthe only reason they're any better is because they have a crap filter and consider a few other sourcesOct 26 15:39
azalynmacs have usb and have no legacy mode. because they never had PS/2 ports to begin with.Oct 26 15:39
MinceRDDG also have their own botsOct 26 15:39
azalynso i don't think what you're saying is true. you don't need legacy mode to be compliant with usb.Oct 26 15:39
oiaohmazalyn: the chipset in macs still have means to be turned legacy.Oct 26 15:39
azalynif you did, then apple would be violating the usb standard.Oct 26 15:39
oiaohmazalyn: apple removed the bios switch.Oct 26 15:40
DaemonFCwhy would you need legacy USB mode? are you planning to run Windows 98 or DOS sometime soon?Oct 26 15:40
DaemonFCI find it's usually better to disable that and let Linux figure it out without the BIOS touching itOct 26 15:40
azalynmaybe, but that's probably not because of USB standards, but more about economies of scale. those chipsets have the economies of scale on their favor.Oct 26 15:40
oiaohmazalyn: the standard says the chip has to support it.Oct 26 15:41
oiaohmDoes not say the bios has to.Oct 26 15:41
azalynDaemonFC: i just made a passing comment, but oiaohm has a habit of turning everything into a huge discussion. ;)Oct 26 15:41
azalyni remember him from other channels.Oct 26 15:41
oiaohmazalyn: not always.Oct 26 15:41
azalynyou could say "hello", and he'd spend three hours talking about the etymology of the word "hello"Oct 26 15:41
azalyn:POct 26 15:41
oiaohmazalyn: Just there are some odd ball spec requirements.Oct 26 15:42
oiaohmusb legacy mode is one of those odd ball spec requirements.Oct 26 15:42
DaemonFCthe less hardware the BIOS brings up, the less chance something bizarre happens laterOct 26 15:42
azalynDaemonFC: i was just saying that grub doesn't seem to understand usb keyboards. or at least not the version installed on my gentoo system.Oct 26 15:42
DaemonFCjust a general ruleOct 26 15:42
azalynso i can use my usb keyboard at POST within the bios menus and such..Oct 26 15:43
oiaohmgrub 2 is required for usb keyboards.  azalynOct 26 15:43
DaemonFCGRUB 2 doesOct 26 15:43
DaemonFCreally there's no good excuse to be shipping GRUB legacy right nowOct 26 15:43
oiaohmazalyn: also stupid a usb to ps/2 connector lead will work with GRub 1 and before.Oct 26 15:43
DaemonFCFedora put it off for too longOct 26 15:44
oiaohmazalyn: reason this is why legacy is there.Oct 26 15:44
DaemonFCand OpenSuse and Mandriva/Mageia and others are still shipping itOct 26 15:44
DaemonFCbroken messed up crapOct 26 15:44
azalynDaemonFC: i wonder, when you select usb legacy mode, is polling still done in software (the bios firmware?) or is there some code in the system chipset that does it for you..?Oct 26 15:44
azalynpolling is really what annoys me about usb. it would've been so much better if it had been an interrupt bus.Oct 26 15:44
oiaohmChipset.  azalynOct 26 15:44
oiaohmin usb 3 and up.Oct 26 15:45
DaemonFClegacy USB just presents thigns like mice and keyboard as serial devices to operating systems that don't understand USBOct 26 15:45
DaemonFCuseful if you want to use a USB keyboard in DOS or GRUB legacyOct 26 15:45
DaemonFC:)Oct 26 15:45
DaemonFCor other stupid messed up bullshitOct 26 15:45
azalynoiaohm: yeah, that's what is awesome about usb.Oct 26 15:45
oiaohmWhen usb was designed intel never thought ps/2 would disapper.Oct 26 15:45
DaemonFCit should disappearOct 26 15:46
azalynfrom what i read about usb3, even usb2 devices connected to a usb3 port will handle polling in the chipset.Oct 26 15:46
oiaohmReason ps/2 chipset could provide faster responce time than usb for keyboard and mice.Oct 26 15:46
azalynso the OS will never have to worry about USB polling ever again with USB3Oct 26 15:46
oiaohmNot exactly never.Oct 26 15:46
azalynit makes ehci and ohci/uhci obsolete.Oct 26 15:46
oiaohmOS has to remember to put ports to sleep.  azalynOct 26 15:46
MinceRwhen obsessing over response time for keyboards, don't forget that debounce will add a greater delay anyway :>Oct 26 15:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] yes, we (EU, Sweden, etc) need to be clearon Human Rights; fix Pirate Bay situation, IPRED, and stop talking about netfiltering #net4changeOct 26 15:47
oiaohmMinceR: remember intel had the idea we would connect a 128 devices to a usb port.Oct 26 15:47
oiaohmMinceR: Yes sharing keyboard and mouse data stream with a 128 other devices could kinda turn bad.Oct 26 15:48
oiaohmOpps 126 other devices.Oct 26 15:48
MinceR:>Oct 26 15:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] to underline the human rights commitment Sweden started the IPRED programme. #net4change #PracticeWhatYouPreachOct 26 15:48
oiaohmYes intel had no idea that ps/2 would become deprecated.Oct 26 15:49
oiaohmusb3 addresses some of the weaknesses.Oct 26 15:49
azalynhow could they not know?Oct 26 15:49
azalynthat seems like the entire goal of usb.Oct 26 15:49
azalynto eliminate all legacy ports.Oct 26 15:49
oiaohmusb was to get rid of your normal serial and printer ports that happend to be very large on the back plate.Oct 26 15:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] voted for "In a console shell or xterm"Oct 26 15:50
oiaohmps/2 port that supports keyboard and mice is very small.Oct 26 15:50
oiaohmYes a 25 din serial port really does not make much sence when you see how few wires are connected.Oct 26 15:51
azalynmost computers didn't have the larger ports..Oct 26 15:52
azalynthey had two of the smaller ones.Oct 26 15:52
azalyndb9 i think?Oct 26 15:52
azalynor whatever it's calledOct 26 15:52
oiaohmdb9 is still a lot large than PS2 or usb ports.Oct 26 15:52
azalynUSB3 is apparently based on pci express in some waysOct 26 15:53
oiaohmRemember PS2 port support 2 serial streams at once.Oct 26 15:53
azalynor it shares some design aspects with it.Oct 26 15:53
oiaohmpci express is expand of idea of usb 1 and 2.Oct 26 15:53
oiaohmof using serial instead of parallel data streams.Oct 26 15:54
oiaohmusb3 gets some tech back from what was developed from pci express.Oct 26 15:54
azalynthat's kind of a stretch... i mean just because they're both serial, doesn't mean that pci express is an "expansion" of usb..Oct 26 15:55
oiaohmexpand of the idea.Oct 26 15:55
azalynotherwise you could say usb was an expansion of rs232.Oct 26 15:55
oiaohmWhat it is.Oct 26 15:55
azalynsince rs232 is also serial.Oct 26 15:55
azalynrs232 is the standard name for serial ports. the ones you were just talking aboutOct 26 15:56
oiaohmalso i2cOct 26 15:56
oiaohmReally usb 1 and 2 are closer to i2cOct 26 15:56
oiaohmclock and data wires.Oct 26 15:56
oiaohmusb 3 is closer to rs232 againOct 26 15:56
azalyni guess none of the standards are ever developed completely from scratch.Oct 26 15:56
azalynUSB takes a lot from SCSI as well.Oct 26 15:56
oiaohmNot reallyOct 26 15:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] I'm not trying to be a smart-ass, btw. these are important questions IMVHO and they should get answered #net4changeOct 26 15:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] maybe I should ask those questions here and now? maybe not?.. #net4change #IPRED #thepiratebayOct 26 15:57
oiaohmthe scsi stuff was still parallel in the time of usbOct 26 15:57
azalynSAS is based on SCSI and is serial.Oct 26 15:57
azalyni'm not necessarily talking about the electrical interfaceOct 26 15:57
oiaohmsata and sas comes after usb.Oct 26 15:57
oiaohmIe usb first workedOct 26 15:57
oiaohmThen hmm where else can we do this.Oct 26 15:58
azalynyeah, but usb 1 & 2 kind of suckOct 26 15:58
azalynbecause they use pollingOct 26 15:58
azalyninstead of interruptsOct 26 15:58
azalynthat's why usb3 is good.Oct 26 15:58
azalynthey pretty much solved that.Oct 26 15:58
azalynwhich i think was one of the biggest issuesOct 26 15:58
oiaohmBasically its like a game tech tree development.  azalynOct 26 15:58
oiaohmEach one triggers other options.Oct 26 15:59
oiaohmReally usb3 adds more wires.Oct 26 15:59
azalynyes, i know.Oct 26 15:59
azalynwhen i first saw the connectorOct 26 15:59
azalyni thought it was a monstrosity.Oct 26 15:59
azalynit looked like an ugly hackOct 26 16:00
azalynand i just rolled my eyes at itOct 26 16:00
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azalynit looked like there were so many places it would short circuit and suchOct 26 16:00
TechrightsBot-tr@: Oct 26 16:00
MinceRi still think it's a hackOct 26 16:00
azalynbut i read a bit more, the standard has protection against shortingOct 26 16:00
MinceRit's like they added a separate new connector to the old and they won't even use the old one if the host supports usb3Oct 26 16:01
azalynMinceR: it is. but i decided that it's one i can live with.Oct 26 16:01
MinceR:>Oct 26 16:01
oiaohmReally the bug in usb 1 and 2 is worse than pooling.Oct 26 16:01
oiaohmsince usb 1 and 2 only has 1 data line.Oct 26 16:01
oiaohmup and down has to be taken in turns.Oct 26 16:01
azalynyeah. but given how bad usb1&2 are, that's probably what anyone sane would have done, MinceR.Oct 26 16:01
oiaohmSo causing nightmare bad performance.Oct 26 16:01
MinceR:>Oct 26 16:01
azalynthis means that now future usb standards have a clean break from the oldOct 26 16:01
azalyni also like that xhci makes the older standards obsolete as mentioned beforeOct 26 16:02
oiaohmReally no azalynOct 26 16:02
MinceRdoes usb3 do away with polling as well?Oct 26 16:02
azalynMinceR: yes. it's interrupt basedOct 26 16:02
oiaohmRemember the usb 1&2 pair was kept.  azalynOct 26 16:02
oiaohmMinceR:  decated recive lines on computer.Oct 26 16:02
oiaohmSo it devices don't have to be polled to have an option to send a message.Oct 26 16:03
MinceRicOct 26 16:03
oiaohmBasically usb 1 and 2 is a few wires short.Oct 26 16:03
oiaohmUsb 3 addes 4 extra data wires.Oct 26 16:03
oiaohm2 for sending to devicesOct 26 16:03
oiaohm2 for recieving from devices.Oct 26 16:03
MinceRwell, i guess that means devices get to choose whether to be complex and be interrupt-driven or to be cheap and slow :)Oct 26 16:04
azalynMinceR: from what i understand, even usb1&2 are not using OS-polling anymore. meaning the OS isn't aware. basically, the usb chipset itself has the polling stuff built-in, and it presents an interrupt interface to the operating system for all standards, even usb1 and usb2 devices.Oct 26 16:04
MinceRicOct 26 16:04
azalynwhich has to be pretty nice for laptops.Oct 26 16:04
oiaohmazalyn: usb 1 and 2 on wire level are still polledOct 26 16:04
azalynoiaohm: isn't that what i just said?Oct 26 16:04
oiaohmazalyn: but OS does not ahve to be doing it on usb 3 chipsets.Oct 26 16:04
oiaohmThe polling can be turned off.Oct 26 16:05
azalynoiaohm: isn't that what i just said?Oct 26 16:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Former #Microsoft Employee Who Pressured for Action Against Microsoft Meets Passive Government http://is.gd/g750GA #taxOct 26 16:05
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oiaohmI mean the usb 3 chipset can be told by OS stop pollingOct 26 16:05
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oiaohmor start polling.Oct 26 16:05
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oiaohmazalyn: power effectiveness issueOct 26 16:05
oiaohmpolling eats power.Oct 26 16:06
azalynyeah.. that's why i said usb3 is good for laptopsOct 26 16:06
oiaohmIe OS can forget about doing the polling but it cannot forget about managing when it should or should not be going on.Oct 26 16:06
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oiaohmazalyn: one intel chip set eats 10 percent more power if you let all the usb3 ports poll uncontroled.Oct 26 16:07
oiaohmYes it can be where did my battery go.Oct 26 16:08
azalyncontrol can't be too bad of an issue. i mean the usb3 chip probably generates events so that the OS knows when to start/stop the polling. etc.. so when the ports are unused, it just disables polling.Oct 26 16:08
azalynor when only usb3 devices are connectedOct 26 16:09
azalynso it's still an interrupt interface from the perspective of the OSOct 26 16:09
oiaohmazalyn: really it would have been better to kill the usb 1 and 2 portOct 26 16:09
oiaohmAnd require a usb 1 or 2 adaptors.Oct 26 16:09
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oiaohmThat way you would not have to bother about does this port have a usb 1 or 2 device connected.Oct 26 16:10
oiaohmThat just happens to be a usb 3 device as well.Oct 26 16:10
oiaohmSo I can turn the usb 1 and 2 off because it duplication.Oct 26 16:10
azalynwell, intel would have loved that, i'm sure.. i saw a draft that had new connectors for usb3..Oct 26 16:11
oiaohmYep then intel backed out of the idea.Oct 26 16:11
azalynbut i bet the usb forum said "fuck you, intel"Oct 26 16:11
oiaohmEven that it would have been the correct solution to make usb 1 and 2 die out.Oct 26 16:12
azalynintel wants thunderbolt to be the future bus. which is a proprietary standard.Oct 26 16:12
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oiaohmthunderbolt is interesting.Oct 26 16:12
oiaohmLinux already supports it.  azalynOct 26 16:12
oiaohmReason most people don't read thunderbolt.Oct 26 16:13
azalyneven if usb3 is a bit of a hack, it's still worth it. the fact is, usb has the inertia, and we all have to deal with that fact. i mean for crying out loud, it's become the defacto standard for charging devices like phones and GPS units..Oct 26 16:13
azalynwe'll never get rid of it.Oct 26 16:13
oiaohmNothing connect to thunderbolt appears to be thunderbolt.Oct 26 16:13
oiaohmIe they appear to be either displayport devicesOct 26 16:13
oiaohmor pcie devices.Oct 26 16:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Nice quote at the end.Oct 26 16:13
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azalyni hate how intel hijacked displayport.Oct 26 16:13
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azalyndisplayport kicks ass.Oct 26 16:14
azalynit's a royalty-free standardOct 26 16:14
oiaohmIntel invented displayportOct 26 16:14
azalynit doesn't mandate drm (it's optional)Oct 26 16:14
oiaohmas competition to hdmiOct 26 16:14
azalynintel was only one company in the process.. it's a vesa standardOct 26 16:14
oiaohmIntel submitted it to vesaOct 26 16:14
oiaohmThen other companies commented on it.Oct 26 16:15
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oiaohmBut intel had displayport mostly right from the get go.Oct 26 16:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Allchin not the Gates posted image.Oct 26 16:15
azalynbut it's still hijacked. if thunderbolt was an open standard, or whatever, i wouldn't complain.Oct 26 16:16
azalynbut it's proprietaryOct 26 16:16
azalynwhere as displayport is royalty-freeOct 26 16:16
oiaohmRemember intel does not want thunderbolt long term.Oct 26 16:16
azalynuh...Oct 26 16:17
oiaohmIts a middle move on the path to lightpeak.Oct 26 16:17
azalynwe don't know that.Oct 26 16:17
azalyneveryone keeps talking about fiber optics..Oct 26 16:17
azalynand yet it never happensOct 26 16:17
azalynall we have is optical audioOct 26 16:17
oiaohmintel wants to move from thunderbolt to a optical based system.Oct 26 16:17
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84808035Oct 26 16:17
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Oct-11 15:12:06 UTC - Identi.ca: Nice quote at the end.Oct 26 16:18
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/84741054#notice-84808069Oct 26 16:18
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oiaohmBasically thunderbold is debuging in copper.  azalynOct 26 16:18
azalyndisplayport can be powered at both ends, so they have a fiber version of it.. but the connectors still use copper. the fiber is just in the cable, and has copper-to-fiber converters at both ends.Oct 26 16:18
azalynso maybe thunderbolt will do the same as displayport.Oct 26 16:18
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84808069Oct 26 16:18
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Oct-11 15:14:58 UTC - Identi.ca: Allchin not the Gates posted image.Oct 26 16:18
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azalynand not have fiber directly connected to the machine, but just in the cableOct 26 16:18
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oiaohmazalyn: no the goal is straight up fiber to computer in time.Oct 26 16:19
oiaohmfiber in cable is just again part of the testing process.Oct 26 16:19
oiaohmRemember fiber can go way faster than copper.Oct 26 16:20
oiaohmDue to not having induction interference.Oct 26 16:20
oiaohmazalyn: this is a scary idea. intel thinks a 100 gbs in fiber will make a good port.Oct 26 16:22
oiaohmthunderport is the first port in the light peak line basically azalynOct 26 16:24
azalynhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:DisplayPort_Connector.svgOct 26 16:25
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azalynthe original displayport connector wasn't designed in a way that would carry fiber easily.Oct 26 16:25
azalynonly the newer apple connector could be modified to carry fiberOct 26 16:26
azalynand yes, i know the new connector is now part of the standardOct 26 16:26
azalynbut still. it doesn't seem to me like they planned for displayport to be used with light peak from the start.Oct 26 16:26
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azalynit seems like they're just trying to use the most convenient connector they can find.Oct 26 16:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Zurana Horton was a hero – she just didn't look like one http://gu.com/p/32qhpOct 26 16:27
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azalynat one point they wanted light peak on usb connectors.Oct 26 16:27
oiaohmReally you are forgetting something.Oct 26 16:27
azalyni'm just not really giving a crap about their fiber plans for now. because they just keep delaying them.Oct 26 16:27
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oiaohmFiber optic cable can be nicely conductive.Oct 26 16:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: It's like the way of typing. Kitteh loves to rub salt in footballing woundsOct 26 16:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] New Version of PROTECT IP Bill May Target Legal Sites http://identi.ca/url/56280990 !effOct 26 16:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Celebrate the birth of the Internet http://identi.ca/url/56281124Oct 26 16:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Unpatched JBoss vulnerable to worm intrusion (Mark Cox): http://bit.ly/v8cPPfOct 26 16:28
oiaohmThis is why intel thought about fiber in usb or equal.Oct 26 16:28
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oiaohmSince a fiber cable could do a coper cable role as well.Oct 26 16:29
oiaohmless cables in the workshop the better azalynOct 26 16:29
MinceRhuh?Oct 26 16:29
oiaohmMinceR: Its the addtives you add to the glass.  Oct 26 16:29
MinceRicOct 26 16:30
oiaohmMinceR: right mix glass that just happens to be really flexalbe and resistant to breaking.Oct 26 16:30
oiaohmis also highly conductive.Oct 26 16:30
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oiaohmMinceR:  You can guess why fiber cable has to be placed at least 1 metre into the ground right now or you should be able to.Oct 26 16:31
oiaohmIf its the high grade stuff.Oct 26 16:31
oiaohmOther wise it would be hello lighting come hit me.Oct 26 16:32
oiaohmIe intel was seeking to exploit an annoying feature of good quality firber.Oct 26 16:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Are group members still being poll spammed? Is it safe to rejoin popular groups?Oct 26 16:33
MinceR:>Oct 26 16:33
MinceRit might also transmit EM noise thoughOct 26 16:34
MinceRwhich is not so goodOct 26 16:34
oiaohmYep another reason for deep in ground.Oct 26 16:34
oiaohmSo yes could get interesting in office.Oct 26 16:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] anyone else getting the "no such user" error a lot in #Gwibber?Oct 26 16:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I shall dip my toe.Oct 26 16:37
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azalynglass fiber is dangerousOct 26 16:41
azalyni don't want that anywhere near my home.Oct 26 16:41
azalyni think optical audio cables use some polymers/plasticsOct 26 16:42
azalynwhich are saferOct 26 16:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Hollywood's Kinder, Gentler DRM: UltraViolet, Getting Slammed In Reviews http://goo.gl/LIxDAOct 26 16:42
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MinceRthey had better be non-conductive since otherwise they lose an important point of being optical, imoOct 26 16:42
azalynif you cut open a glass fiber cable, you have these tiny shards of glass. i hear people who work with that shit get hazard pay.Oct 26 16:42
azalynin fact, the polymer cables are more expensive to make, but because of hazard pay in working with glass fiber, the costs of polymer cables are lower when you factor manual labor to install.Oct 26 16:43
azalynlike for ISPs and suchOct 26 16:43
azalynat least that's what i heardOct 26 16:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] every time I reply to a user, #Gwibber tells me the user doesn't exist, then replies as normalOct 26 16:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Ah, now I recall. @bkuhn wanted to call #AGPL the "GASP GPL" (GNU Application Service Provider GPL). :-)Oct 26 17:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @brashley46 @PMHarper A plan for Canada’s digital future (via @OpenMedia_ca) !cdnpoli http://OpenMedia.ca/plan << worth a lookOct 26 17:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Linux Foundation Backs Long-Term Support Kernels http://bit.ly/tpKV8qOct 26 17:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Perhaps. #occupytemasek http://ur1.ca/5ihinOct 26 17:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @thistleweb: Hollywood's Kinder, Gentler DRM: UltraViolet, Getting Slammed In Reviews http://goo.gl/LIxDAOct 26 17:12
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schestowitzhttp://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2011-10-24-005-39-OP-MS-LL-0006Oct 26 17:12
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schestowitz"Oct 26 17:12
schestowitzMicrosoft will claim it has a patent for AUM and get the companies to sign a non disclosure agreement to pay them.Oct 26 17:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] OCaml for the Masses: an argument for functional languages (ACM Queue): http://bit.ly/tdrKSmOct 26 17:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Hollywood wants to give us back some of out rights now, but they don't think we should have all of the yet; cos they're still bastards!Oct 26 17:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "haircut" is what banks call paying their bills when they can't get citizens to do it for them.Oct 26 17:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] $25 #Linux PC http://ur1.ca/5ihlo #raspberrypiOct 26 17:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Astronomy archives awashed in a data tsunami? - (ACM Queue): http://bit.ly/vW4R7WOct 26 17:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #onePercent posters [IMG] http://ur1.ca/5ihm3Oct 26 17:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Build the 2006 prototype of Raspberry Pi's $25 PC – Computer Chips & Hardware Technology | Geek.com .::. Size~: 60.64 KBOct 26 17:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux 3.0.8 http://ur1.ca/5ihnm #kernelOct 26 17:23
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MinceRhttps://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-QcxQr7Ls-Fg/TpXJfNMmcRI/AAAAAAAABJA/c-MTA7EbmyE/h301/1211356724_f.jpgOct 26 17:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu members come from Europe and US and want more representation http://is.gd/iB8Pod so does Microsoft/MonoOct 26 17:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] TeK > #Portugal volta a pedir dados de utilizadores à Google - #surveillance #privacy http://goo.gl/N5ovpOct 26 17:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Indian government thinks the $35 Aakash !Android tablet has the power to change the world http://goo.gl/kqT5kOct 26 17:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Hands On: India’s $35 Aakash Android tablet lands in America (exclusive) | VentureBeat .::. Size~: 72.39 KBOct 26 17:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New Linux Kernel Tree http://ur1.ca/5ii14 #linuxOct 26 17:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Shared a post "Angry Birds on Blackberry" http://ur1.ca/5ii2eOct 26 17:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] US gov announces those who caused the banking collapse are to be held accountable, starting with Goldman Sachs http://identi.ca/url/56287439Oct 26 17:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] <<drinking #FairTrade #Coffee at Kitchener's Little Bean CafeOct 26 17:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @coyo If anyone feels suicidal http://identi.ca/url/56285158 let me know. i can help.Oct 26 17:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz #onePercent posters [IMG] http://ur1.ca/5ihm3Oct 26 17:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @coyo #OccupyWallStreet #OWS http://t.co/TLU9XthE #CreditUnion Put the money here!Oct 26 17:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF marks PATRIOT Act 10th anniversary with a lawsuit over 'secret interpretations' of the law: https://eff.org/r.3EEOct 26 18:07
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84810211Oct 26 18:07
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Oct-11 16:51:59 UTC - Identi.ca: The new #Ubuntu still contains a #Microsoft Trojan horse and poison pill called Mono. Some #Ubuntu members came from Microsoft.Oct 26 18:07
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schestowitz_Goblin: hey, I can record today :-)Oct 26 18:12
_GoblinHi!Oct 26 18:13
_GoblinSorry mate Ive been sooooooo busy.....unexpectedlyOct 26 18:13
_Goblinjugling too many things...Oct 26 18:14
_GoblinCan we pencil in tomorrow? Ive just got back in and have a few jobs to do.Oct 26 18:14
schestowitzThat's OK, we can do it tomorrow or FridayOct 26 18:14
schestowitzif possibleOct 26 18:14
schestowitzfor me these are okOct 26 18:14
sebsebsebschestowitz: _Goblin What you two on about Techbytes?Oct 26 18:17
schestowitzayeOct 26 18:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Canonical, Ubuntu Linux's parent company, reorganizes http://is.gd/kFEpd5 at Microsoft, "reorg" means exodus of execsOct 26 18:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @GovInTheLab Health, Lawyers, Hollywood and Tech Industry Favor Obama W/Campaign Ca$h http://ur1.ca/5iid3 < why US likes !C11 ? !CdnPoliOct 26 18:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @johnfmoore Health, Lawyers, Hollywood and Tech Industry Favor Obama W/Campaign Ca$h http://ur1.ca/5iid3 < why US likes !C11 ? !CdnPoliOct 26 18:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Wednesday http://ur1.ca/5iihhOct 26 18:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @mgeist RT @laurelrusswurm: blogged: Bill #C-11 : Transcription: Jesse Brown’s “Digital Lockdown” Podcast ur1.ca/5i9tc !cdnPoliOct 26 18:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !EFF Sues for Answers About PATRIOT Act on Law's 10th Anniversary http://bit.ly/rsO7ZVOct 26 18:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EFF Sues for Answers About PATRIOT Act on Law's 10th Anniversary | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 20.38 KBOct 26 18:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @howardknopf "Rogers throttles file-sharing traffic frm BitTorrent more thn any other Internet provider in N.America" http://ur1.ca/5iikyOct 26 18:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Rogers throttling may breach net neutrality rules - Technology & Science - CBC News .::. Size~: 50.67 KBOct 26 18:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !tzag Good Evening !Identiverse :)Oct 26 18:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Helios brings #Linux to Texan youth http://is.gd/z3m4ab #freedom #educationOct 26 18:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: New computers, new mindset » Standard-Times .::. Size~: 112.28 KBOct 26 18:42
schestowitzOpen standards are better than open sourceOct 26 18:45
schestowitzhttp://www.electronicsweekly.com/Articles/26/10/2011/52136/open-standards-are-better-than-open-source.htmOct 26 18:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open standards are better than open source - 10/26/2011 - Electronics Weekly .::. Size~: 75.08 KBOct 26 18:45
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84810896 http://identi.ca/notice/84810966Oct 26 18:47
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Oct-11 17:20:46 UTC - Identi.ca: RES extends Automation Manager to non-Windows platforms http://is.gd/B9jdHZ Windows monopoly ablazeOct 26 18:47
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: RES extends Automation Manager to non-Windows platforms - IT News from V3.co.uk .::. Size~: 94.16 KBOct 26 18:47
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Oct-11 17:24:14 UTC - Identi.ca: #DistroWatch statistics for the past 7 days http://is.gd/7QQeUK Mint beats Ubuntu 3181 to 2337. Wind of change.Oct 26 18:47
schestowitz"Mint is a Debian offspring done right. Go, Mint, go!" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/678276Oct 26 18:47
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. .::. Size~: 136.08 KBOct 26 18:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Slashdot used to stand up for FOSS and recognise the foes (Apple, Micorosft); now it attacks Google, cites Microsoft lobbyists. Sad.Oct 26 18:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] getting my brew on http://ur1.ca/5iisa #sip_and_clickOct 26 18:55
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schestowitz"I've been planning to buy the $35 Raspberry Pi for a while now. " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/677981Oct 26 18:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Steve is gone, but his best mate Ellison still goes thermonuclear http://ur1.ca/5iissOct 26 18:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] if we give keys to our democracy to Fb and Twitter, it will be closed as soon as it stops being profitable. i.e. very soon #net4changeOct 26 19:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Dell, Motorola, T-Mobile paying reporters to embed company links in their online stories & blog posts (Gawker): http://gaw.kr/vgh2R4Oct 26 19:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "Twitter is just a tool; you have to know its limitations" - exactly! #net4changeOct 26 19:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Shady Marketing Scheme That's Buying Off Your Favorite Bloggers .::. Size~: 82.24 KBOct 26 19:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] we're putting centralised comms networks (corporate social nets like twitter) on completely de-centralised one (Internet) #fail #net4changeOct 26 19:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] so now you can see my real colours, ha! yes! I'm actually opposed to the way corporations start to own our communication #net4changeOct 26 19:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] KDE 4: Leader of the Semantic Pack (Linux.com) http://ur1.ca/5iizzOct 26 19:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] A big city without a police force, interesting. I know that at least a few of my anarcho-friends would loove the idea! ;) #net4changeOct 26 19:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: KDE 4: Leader of the Semantic Pack (Linux.com) [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 8.63 KBOct 26 19:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Why does Angry Birds need to know where I am? #bigbrotherisanangrybirdOct 26 19:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Oh my did the go just all meta on us or what? :D #net4changeOct 26 19:17
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84811986Oct 26 19:18
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Oct-11 18:10:44 UTC - Identi.ca: Treat Young Offenders Like Your Own Child http://ur1.ca/5iiz7 #prisonOct 26 19:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Nope, not me, I couldn't afford the $14,000 price tag. I was the employee who worked on it doing desk top publishing, digital imagingOct 26 19:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 26/10/2011: Linux 3.2 Kernel Plans, Linux 3.0.8 Out, New Kernel Announced http://is.gd/1GUej9 #techrights #linuxOct 26 19:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] I firmly believe #Diaspora, #StatusNet and such decentralized services have an important mission in the context of social change #net4changeOct 26 19:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "Fit hits the shan" is a nice temr for that :D #net4changeOct 26 19:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @frankenspock Pioneers have always bent the rules to get what they want. >> Yes, law that puts pioneers behind bars is not good law. !C11Oct 26 19:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] BTW, while we're all still here, who's up for a beer and networking (pun intended) after #net4change? guy in red hawaiian shirt askingOct 26 19:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "Information is not dangerous; it's necessary for a mature society" #net4changeOct 26 19:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @sebsebseb yepOct 26 19:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Tom the Dancing Bug: In Which Lucky Ducky and the Houndsville 99% Declare Class Warfare http://identi.ca/url/56294484Oct 26 19:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TOM THE DANCING BUG:  In Which Lucky Ducky and the Houndsville 99% Declare Class Warfare!! - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 17.06 KBOct 26 19:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Police raid on #Occupy Oakland: the morning after Police raid on Occupy Oakland: the morning afterOct 26 19:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Natural-gas boom has led to old-west hell-raising, and an increase in violence, rapes, robbery, and thefts http://identi.ca/url/56294692Oct 26 19:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Makes sense! Information wants to be free; in oppressive regimes it's not; so Information fights regimes! #net4changeOct 26 19:34
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/NavinChauhan/status/129261817175343105?iid=am-70781558913196533936727921&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Oct 26 19:34
TechrightsBot-tr@NavinChauhan: @schestowitz interesting point of view ...Oct 26 19:34
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schestowitz"Something about these beautiful people who do weird but amazing things is so unbelievably sexy. " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/678527Oct 26 19:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !Mageia #Mageia Translators rise and shine: http://ur1.ca/5ij5oOct 26 19:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Translators rise and shine! | Mageia Blog (English) .::. Size~: 25.89 KBOct 26 19:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] HTML5: Who wins and who loses? (ExtremeTech): http://bit.ly/rNkKwOOct 26 19:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @sebsebseb afternoon here, yes !tzag :)Oct 26 19:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] And they're done! great event, great talks. thanks, #net4change!Oct 26 19:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] damn I'm turning into a perfectionist with my screencasts :(Oct 26 19:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I kinda think I've extended my very limited #Inkscape skills a lil with the new !DPS look :D pity I'm out of practice in recordingOct 26 19:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] VA intends to buy up to 100,000 tablet computers (FCW): http://bit.ly/vpEejMOct 26 19:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Justice Department Wants To Be Able To Lie In Response To Freedom Of Information Requests http://goo.gl/TvSnc you couldn't make this upOct 26 19:55
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSForce/statuses/129233336618070018Oct 26 19:58
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSForce: Microsoft using lobbyists working to get Linux phones banned. http://t.co/gSwnyt3GOct 26 19:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The Revolution Will Not Be Infringed Upon: Long Island Couple Files To Trademark 'Occupy Wall St.' http://goo.gl/PK9bB #OWSOct 26 20:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !lo | A strange tale for Halloween, of the email that wouldn't travel much more than 500 miles http://goo.gl/CR30tOct 26 20:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Read on !Mageia blog on 22nd that !Mageia 2 is being delayed: I think it's the right thing to do so that it can be released with #Gnome 3.4!Oct 26 20:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Read on !Mageia blog on 22nd that #Mageia 2 is being delayed: I think it's the right thing to do so that it can be released with #Gnome 3.4!Oct 26 20:07
sebsebsebbye bye the first dent, since wrongOct 26 20:08
sebsebsebalready goneOct 26 20:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] I have determined that #Halloween is against my religionOct 26 20:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] iirc that may have been criminal even back then. back in the day it was illegal to hook up a modem without permission here (epson qx10 days)Oct 26 20:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Windows Server 8 streamlines Active Directory administration (InfoWorld): http://bit.ly/sEpw5oOct 26 20:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The Importance Of Mind-Wandering (Wired): http://bit.ly/viemPfOct 26 20:34
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSForce/statushttp://identi.ca/notice/84812701es/129233336618070018Oct 26 20:34
TechrightsBot-trNot a tweet?Oct 26 20:34
TechrightsBot-trNot a dent?Oct 26 20:34
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84812701Oct 26 20:34
TechrightsBot-tr@faither's status on Wednesday, 26-Oct-11 18:48:21 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz A new one out would pop up to fill the void. As long as the system is corrupt nothing will ever change.Oct 26 20:34
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/84735119#notice-84812701Oct 26 20:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 12.66 KBOct 26 20:35
schestowitzI'm gonna do a post on tax evasionOct 26 20:35
schestowitzWith a forner Microsoft staffOct 26 20:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] mm....earl gray !teaOct 26 20:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I have 2 usb3 ports and nothing that fits in them.Oct 26 20:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] That second Celtic goal looked a km offside.Oct 26 20:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Hold your nose, close your mouth and exhale. Small chance you will feel better.Oct 26 20:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I'm with you.Oct 26 21:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Off topic I know and also irrelevant but the author gets right up my nose.Oct 26 21:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] ZDNet columnist baffled, enraged over Ubuntu Unity: http://zd.net/txgDCFOct 26 21:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why Ubuntu 11.10 fills me with rage | ZDNet .::. Size~: 137.02 KBOct 26 21:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] IBM's new CEO, Virginia Rometty, will focus more on emerging markets (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/uVbR3SOct 26 21:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: IBM's new CEO, Virginia Rometty, has a plan - Computerworld .::. Size~: 132.03 KBOct 26 21:33
schestowitznew ceo??Oct 26 21:39
schestowitzwhen did *that* happen?Oct 26 21:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] As usual, Red Hat now standing alone in not supporting OpenStack (ReadWriteCloud): http://rww.to/tt4E1kOct 26 21:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Vs. Green: SUSE Backs OpenStack, Red Hat Stands Alone - ReadWriteCloud .::. Size~: 50.12 KBOct 26 21:39
schestowitzMS embraced and extanded OpenStackOct 26 21:40
schestowitzWith hypeVOct 26 21:40
schestowitzWhich Novell shoved into LinuxOct 26 21:40
schestowitzIt's in ze contract!!Oct 26 21:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] M'soft tunes Windows Embedded for real time (EE Times): http://bit.ly/tYECtYOct 26 21:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] answered "What question should I ask RMS?"Oct 26 21:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] answered "What question should I ask RMS?"Oct 26 21:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: RT @e3i5: Every picture upload to Facebook examined for matches w/offenders & referred to law enforcement http: http://ur1. ...Oct 26 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: CHSF: "Bill C-32 should be amended to provide that circumvention of TPMs..prohibited only when purpose is to infringe copyr ...Oct 26 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: CBC: "Rogers throttling may breach net neutrality rules" http://t.co/Nj8QEXTpOct 26 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: RT @fullcomment: Jesse Kline on copyright reform and the case of the illicit t-shirts http://t.co/pgDe0AEkOct 26 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: RT @laurelrusswurm: blogged: Bill #C-11 : Transcription: Jesse Brown’s “Digital Lockdown” Podcast http://t.co/cib0k0XCOct 26 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: RT @howardknopf: "Intellectual Property in ACTA and the TPP" by Kimberlee G. Weatherall http://t.co/at0uazd5Oct 26 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: Kline: "Just because someone breaks a digital lock doesn’t not mean they are violating anyone’s copyright." http://t.co/pgD ...Oct 26 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: RT @BillStarnaud: Why not Canada? Facebook to build server farm on edge of Arctic Circle http://t.co/rJRK6l4wOct 26 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: Blame Canada on Movie Subsidies: growth of tax breaks, the questionable economics & why Canada is to blame http://t.co/v3iLoiWLOct 26 21:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: .@JamesMoore_org cites CMEC C-11 support http://t.co/puR2XhnQ but omits its opposition to digital lock rules http://t.co/qm ...Oct 26 21:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: Search Engine on Copyright: Digital Lockdown: I spoke w/@jessebrown on C-11 and the digital lock rules http://t.co/RAW8Q5XJOct 26 21:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: The Daily Digital Lock Dissenter, Day 16 - Canadian Home and School Federation http://t.co/33FiHqw2Oct 26 21:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: RT @digitopoly: RT @delong: Royal Society journal archive made permanently free to access | Royal Society http://t.co/tUdZm8htOct 26 21:48
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schestowitz"I love the work of the HeliOS project, they write some very inspiring blog posts about their work, too. " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/678357Oct 26 21:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Music being good or not is what music professors debate. For the rest of us it is do we like it.Oct 26 21:49
schestowitz"A bug has already been filed for the mono. Launchpad is down at the moment, otherwise I'd send you a link. In terms of "coming from Redmond", I've met some of them and they are quite happy to be outta there, and not looking back ;) " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/678145Oct 26 21:50
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schestowitzMaybe their job is just done damaging the project.Oct 26 21:50
schestowitz""Poison pill" as in portability trap or worse? Can you further explain or provide links?"Oct 26 21:51
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/Scobleizer/statuses/764673949Oct 26 21:51
TechrightsBot-tr@Scobleizer: I saw that internally inside Microsoft many times when I was told to stay away from supporting Mono in public. They reserve the right to sueOct 26 21:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Navy for the 99% [IMG] http://ur1.ca/5iks2Oct 26 21:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Ten years after the PATRIOT Act, a look at three of the most dangerous provisions affecting ordinary Americans https://eff.org/r.5EGOct 26 21:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ten Years After the Patriot Act, a Look at Three of the Most Dangerous Provisions Affecting Ordinary Americans | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 33.64 KBOct 26 21:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @kevie: RD @unseenstudio Jings, #crivins michtie me, episode 0 of Crivins is finally oot; get it while it's hoat http://goo.gl/1pfkLOct 26 22:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @kevie: RD @unseenstudio Jings, #crivins michtie me, episode 0 of Crivins is finally oot; get it while it's hoat http://goo.gl/1pfkL #oggOct 26 22:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Crivins Episode 0 | Unseen Studio Audiocasts .::. Size~: 21.26 KBOct 26 22:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @kevie Check out the new all-Scottish #oggcast with @thistleweb and myself http://ur1.ca/5iku0 first episode available for download !tjOct 26 22:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Crivins Episode 0 | Unseen Studio Audiocasts .::. Size~: 21.26 KBOct 26 22:10
schestowitz"I don't look at Slashdot much these days. Are any of the original editors left? " Monday, 05 Dec 2011   Departs: 10:00Oct 26 22:16
schestowitzDiBona left, Malda... who else is "original"?Oct 26 22:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] doing anything #interesting now?Oct 26 22:16
MinceRdoes it matter?Oct 26 22:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] 70's prog rockers certainly made the term progressive music meaningless.Oct 26 22:18
schestowitzI think it does matterOct 26 22:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Defense industry: Keep paying us or the economy gets it (Wired): http://bit.ly/rIeai2Oct 26 22:28
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Defense Industry: Keep Paying Us or The Economy Dies | Danger Room | Wired.com .::. Size~: 62.83 KBOct 26 22:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is schestowitz with 83 dents!Oct 26 22:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @occpal: Going viral on blog ~ How To make a Tear Gas Mask | Protection & Treatment at Protests http://t.co/iefrXkqL #OWS #OccupyOakl ...Oct 26 22:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] (Some of the) World's Most Absurd Warning Signs And Disclaimers (Happy Place): http://bit.ly/sP9m6eOct 26 22:33
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MinceRgnOct 26 22:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] If you want me to follow you, it's a good idea to have sent at least ONE message so that I can tell what I'll be following... #followOct 26 22:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] k9 on the phone here too.Oct 26 22:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Glenn Greenwald on Occupy Wall Street, Banks Too Big to Jail and the Attack on WikiLeaks #ows | Democracy Now http://t.co/apWcMVwrOct 26 22:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] People of the world demand the US government lay off WikiLeaks (video) http://t.co/wY6A2KDAOct 26 22:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Why does CC run an annual fundraising campaign? What is the money used for and where does it go? http://bit.ly/vVPkNCOct 26 22:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Frequently Asked Questions - CC Wiki .::. Size~: 126.13 KBOct 26 22:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] metadata needs cleaned up but this feed works in #Gpodder for #Crivins http://is.gd/5cBUSwOct 26 22:56
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schestowitzhttp://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/10/25/wall-st-giants-seek-a-piece-of-nigerias-sovereign-fund/Oct 26 22:59
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schestowitzhttp://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/loss-of-tax-break-raises-cost-of-travel-to-us-strains-relations-with-canada/article2212196/Oct 26 23:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Loss of tax break raises cost of travel, strains U.S. relations - The Globe and Mail .::. Size~: 103.99 KBOct 26 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] we have a pocatcher freindly url for #TuxJam too http://is.gd/9PdnJs !tj although I need to figure out how to tweak metadata on bothOct 26 23:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Orange Juice "rip it up and start again"Oct 26 23:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !GPL or !BSD License: Confusion Galore « Code Ghar http://goo.gl/jKy2nOct 26 23:03
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schestowitzhttp://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/the-open-source-revolution-10014902/boycott-against-corporate-greed-10024646/Oct 26 23:06
schestowitz"Oct 26 23:06
schestowitz@ Jack Schofield:Oct 26 23:06
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schestowitz"Microsoft believes in charging for its IP, exactly like IBM and every other commercial company...."Oct 26 23:06
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schestowitzLOLOct 26 23:06
schestowitzMS Jack on it alreadyOct 26 23:06
schestowitzPromoting tax on LinuxOct 26 23:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] ?Oct 26 23:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft Jack promotes Microsoft racketeering in blog comments http://is.gd/Q1yT25 not taught ethics in journalism school.Oct 26 23:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #TZAF sleep tight.Oct 26 23:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Do not allow Microsoft to 'normalise' racketeering, making it described as "a way of doing business" or "in the real world" etc.Oct 26 23:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft lobbyists have a hard task. Making crime seem like "business as usual". http://is.gd/RZLmF9Oct 26 23:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the podcatcher feed was on the todo list but I forgot, it is working now, subscribe to the feedburner links, sorry about that #UnseenStudioOct 26 23:15
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/monkchips/status/128956299701526530Oct 26 23:16
TechrightsBot-tr@monkchips: IBM has a woman CEO! awesome. huge congrats to ginni rometty, long-term favourite for the role, and well done sam palmisano. amazing job.Oct 26 23:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The #MAFIAA managed to label sharing "piracy", claim a tax (privilege) on blank media, and elongate copyright terms without sense.Oct 26 23:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It doesn't matter what's just and unjust. What matters is who can bribe who and who can run massive PR campaigns to deceive.Oct 26 23:20
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/129263338067722242Oct 26 23:20
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @Magneto10 many of the lawyers working on those cases read my blog, but it's hard to get information out of them :-)Oct 26 23:20
schestowitzlobbyist's midlife crisisOct 26 23:21
schestowitzIn his 40s he becomes an evil spammerOct 26 23:21
schestowitzfighting against activists in their 20sOct 26 23:21
schestowitzand then bragging about itOct 26 23:21
schestowitzWhat a piece of work...Oct 26 23:21
schestowitzDisinformation agent: funded by Microsoft Corp.Oct 26 23:22
schestowitz"I'm not sure. Like most users, I never paid attention to names unless someone particularly irritated me or said something very clever. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slashdot " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/678399Oct 26 23:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Lemme see. You're posting about Team #Followback. I'm NOT #following you. I follow interesting people, not people who go for numbers alone.Oct 26 23:25
schestowitzWatch the troll in the 1st comment here: http://www.linuxtoday.com/it_management/2011102600441OPMSOct 26 23:26
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schestowitz"Maybe local recording is the answer? We should have a trial run." http://joindiaspora.com/posts/678404Oct 26 23:41
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schestowitzMaybe I'll come down to London soon (for more than business hours...)Oct 26 23:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #PROTECTIP Renamed E-PARASITES Act; Would Create The Great Firewall Of America http://goo.gl/CzHEfOct 26 23:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: PROTECT IP Renamed E-PARASITES Act; Would Create The Great Firewall Of America | Techdirt .::. Size~: 354.32 KBOct 26 23:43
ThistleWeblinuxtoday has you clicking next to read each comment? seriously?Oct 26 23:49
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schestowitzyeahOct 26 23:53
schestowitzwith adsOct 26 23:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] sites that force you to click next to see each comment are NOT designed to be user friendly #LinuxToday; not wasting my time with itOct 26 23:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the whole next>next>next bullshit reminds me of installing stuff on #Windows, one of many reasons I prefer #LinuxOct 26 23:53
ThistleWebthere are ads? I guess my adblocker worksOct 26 23:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] design a site to promote #Linux built on the irritating parts of #Windows; use #LinuxToday as a case study, they've captured the essenceOct 26 23:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Family Guy, sign outside a vets. "Euthanasia 2 for 1 with coupon " #funnyOct 26 23:58

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