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schestowitz:-)Oct 27 00:01
schestowitzyes, I don't see them eitherOct 27 00:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] The no-fun religion?Oct 27 00:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] My opinion on the licensing status of noticeless files in #QEMU http://ur1.ca/5imeu !GPLOct 27 00:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Qemu-devel] An opinion on copyright-notice-less qemu files .::. Size~: 12.91 KBOct 27 00:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux Now 15 Million Lines of Code http://ur1.ca/5img1Oct 27 00:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Inside the Linux kernel 3.0 | News | TechRadar UK .::. Size~: 74.91 KBOct 27 00:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ONE MAN can shut off all broadcasting in the U.S.? http://is.gd/qolUrl #usOct 27 00:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Living Freedom  » Blog Archive   » ONE MAN can shut off all broadcasting in the U.S.? .::. Size~: 64.1 KBOct 27 00:35
sebsebsebschestowitz: Nice my four Linux Format magazine have come :DOct 27 00:35
schestowitz4?Oct 27 00:36
sebsebsebschestowitz: yepOct 27 00:36
sebsebsebwell three back issuesOct 27 00:36
sebsebseband the latestOct 27 00:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Third Gen #System76 Lemur Laptop Goes on Sale http://is.gd/7pcNvj while #Dell ran back to kickbacks land. #gnu #linuxOct 27 00:36
schestowitzDid you ever get the one where I'm on the cover?Oct 27 00:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Third Gen System 76 Lemur Laptop Goes on Sale .::. Size~: 116.49 KBOct 27 00:36
sebsebsebschestowitz: one I could have got as a back issue as well, but didn't bother with that oneOct 27 00:36
schestowitzI need to get a copy of that...Oct 27 00:37
sebsebsebschestowitz: yep that was the first Linux Format I ever bought, the one that had you in it :DOct 27 00:37
sebsebsebschestowitz: not sure if you can buy that one anymore to be honestOct 27 00:37
schestowitz:-(Oct 27 00:37
sebsebsebseems they only go back five issues for back issuesOct 27 00:37
schestowitzNot to worry..Oct 27 00:37
sebsebsebschestowitz: anyway that was interestingOct 27 00:37
schestowitzTim has a copy tooOct 27 00:37
sebsebsebhow I end up buying that one it was at Bimingham AirportOct 27 00:37
sebsebseband on the way to Sweden and yeahOct 27 00:38
sebsebsebwas on teh plane and thinking about TechrightsOct 27 00:38
sebsebseband well there it was :DOct 27 00:38
schestowitz:-)Oct 27 00:38
schestowitzI just print some papers before going on the planeOct 27 00:38
schestowitzand review them with a penOct 27 00:38
schestowitzand keyboard sometimesOct 27 00:38
schestowitz"I want one!" http://joindiaspora.com/posts/679882Oct 27 00:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] COGNEX : Vision Library now on Linux! http://is.gd/ipDFYh expanding to growth areas. #linuxOct 27 00:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: COGNEX : Vision Library now on Linux! | 4-Traders .::. Size~: 38.61 KBOct 27 00:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Herman Cain's New Internet Campaign Ad Promotes Smoking http://is.gd/XmzZVb thank you for smokin'Oct 27 00:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Herman Cain's New Internet Campaign Ad Promotes Smoking | Center for Media and Democracy .::. Size~: 48.11 KBOct 27 00:45
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schestowitzsebsebseb: http://www.linuxformat.com/content/and-its-goodbye-himOct 27 00:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: And it's goodbye from him | Linux Format .::. Size~: 25.07 KBOct 27 00:45
schestowitzfrom yesterdayOct 27 00:45
schestowitz"We're just about to get started on issue 153 of Linux Format, and it'll be my last working full-time on the magazine. It's been an amazing journey since I joined back in 2005, when we were working on issue 70 (with Debian 3.1 on the cover!). So much has changed in the world of Linux, and the sheer amount of talent in the free software community continues to astound me. Great days lie ahead."Oct 27 00:45
XFaCEhih allOct 27 00:45
schestowitzihi to youOct 27 00:45
schestowitz!google balls to you youtubeOct 27 00:46
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - BALLS TO YOU!! - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dw3T-F6tH6AwOct 27 00:46
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - BALLS TO YOU! - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D0BoDFAOhbbQOct 27 00:46
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - BALLS TO YOU!! (REMIX) - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DbrQFiI2xXKoOct 27 00:46
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - BALLS TO YOU liza minnelli - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D790ZFq6fbaMOct 27 00:46
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv=brQFiI2xXKoOct 27 00:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BALLS TO YOU!! (REMIX)       - YouTube .::. Size~: 100.66 KBOct 27 00:47
schestowitz"Oct 27 00:47
schestowitzLyrics:Oct 27 00:47
schestowitzB-BBB-Balls to you remix Balls... bbbballs... balls... ballz... b-bbballs... Balls to you! Ball Ball Balls! B-B-BBB-Balls Ba Balls alls-alls-alls Balls... (Low Voice) B-BB-Balls (High voice) Balls (Low voice) To you! Balls... BB Ba Ba Balls - Ba-a-alls Balls Balls B-BBBALLS TO YOU REMIX Balls to you! Ba Ba Ba-Ba-Ba Ba Ba Ba Ba Balls! BBBBallss BALL BALL BALL Balls... B-BBBalls... Balls to you! Remix, Remix, Remix.Oct 27 00:47
schestowitz"Oct 27 00:47
schestowitzLOLOct 27 00:47
schestowitzLyrics..Oct 27 00:48
schestowitzLike it has a meaningOct 27 00:48
schestowitzThat was taken OUT OF CONTEXT !!Oct 27 00:48
sebsebsebschestowitz: didn't get the one about the cloudOct 27 00:48
sebsebsebthe cloud issueOct 27 00:48
sebsebsebnot really that interested in the cloudOct 27 00:48
schestowitzsebsebseb: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAwNTUOct 27 00:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Ubuntu Software Center Offers Books, Magazines .::. Size~: 17.53 KBOct 27 00:48
sebsebsebschestowitz: however did find out about a site, that offersOct 27 00:48
schestowitzCanonical thinks it's AppleOct 27 00:49
XFaCEschestowitz: Why would I ever want to watch Ray William Johnson?Oct 27 00:49
schestowitzBut it hasn't quite grown a strongly-brainwashed cult yetOct 27 00:49
sebsebsebschestowitz:  much more space then the average cloud serviceOct 27 00:49
sebsebsebschestowitz: yep Mark wants to compete agaisnt AppleOct 27 00:49
sebsebsebexactlyOct 27 00:49
XFaCElolOct 27 00:49
schestowitzXFaCE: it's funny and conciseOct 27 00:49
sebsebseband he said stuff like that beforeOct 27 00:49
schestowitzI watched all his equals 3 seriesOct 27 00:49
sebsebsebschestowitz: plus in that open week session I guess the last one he did, so not for the recent open weekOct 27 00:49
sebsebsebhe said he prefered Iphone to ANdoridOct 27 00:50
XFaCEschestowitz: Can't stand him.Oct 27 00:50
schestowitzreally? why?Oct 27 00:50
XFaCEschestowitz: He was watchable to me once, like Saved by the Bell or something, but now just gets on my nervesOct 27 00:50
schestowitzThe remarks?Oct 27 00:50
schestowitzSavd by the Bell?Oct 27 00:50
schestowitzYou were like 5...Oct 27 00:50
XFaCEschestowitz: Exactly.  I grew out of it.  And I grew out of RWJ, the internet regurgitaterOct 27 00:51
schestowitzI don't care for *him*Oct 27 00:52
schestowitzit's just a good source of 3 funny videos every week or soOct 27 00:52
schestowitzI skip the restOct 27 00:52
sebsebsebschestowitz: ebooks and magazines through Ubuntu Software Centre, well that's a good idea reallyOct 27 00:52
schestowitzlike after the 3rd videoOct 27 00:53
sebsebsebschestowitz: anyway Ubuntu Based version of Mint can also have the Software Centre :DOct 27 00:53
schestowitzapart from that he's a showoff with some lame jokes sometimesOct 27 00:53
XFaCEschestowitz: exactly, and I don't have the patience to fast forwardOct 27 00:53
schestowitzsebsebseb: they're assuming their users will want thatOct 27 00:53
sebsebsebschestowitz: well some  buy software from it alreadyOct 27 00:53
XFaCEschestowitz: "We particularly liked this new example from Blackboard, which for PR purposes claims to be embracing Open Content that is easy to do when one’s code is proprietary and patents encumbered."Oct 27 00:53
schestowitzI guess it's also a bit like Android's business modelOct 27 00:53
XFaCELol BlackboardOct 27 00:53
XFaCEIt's so mediocreOct 27 00:53
sebsebsebschestowitz: they are targetting the kind of people who  would have bought a Mac if cheaperOct 27 00:54
schestowitzXFaCE: I heard soOct 27 00:54
XFaCEschestowitz: What's the Free software alternative?Oct 27 00:54
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schestowitzA colleague had to put equations in itOct 27 00:54
schestowitzshewent ballisticOct 27 00:54
sebsebsebschestowitz: yep Ubuntu poor Mans OS XOct 27 00:54
XFaCEsebsebseb: Xubuntu isn't so bad though.Oct 27 00:54
schestowitzMac OS X is a Ubuntu for one with more money than senseOct 27 00:55
schestowitzminus the FOSSOct 27 00:55
schestowitzand sans the support for a lot of hardwareOct 27 00:55
XFaCEsebsebseb: I think it is overall preferable to the mainline Ubuntu.  Among other reasons it trims a lot of crap, like Mono.Oct 27 00:55
XFaCEsebsebseb: Not to say that more can't be removed, like odd GNOME 3 components.Oct 27 00:55
schestowitzIf I wanted chicken, I would not oder tot Ceasar's salad and remove all the veg :-)Oct 27 00:56
schestowitzCaesar Oct 27 00:56
XFaCEschestowitz: You're making me hungry.  Stop it! ;)Oct 27 00:56
schestowitzBite sebsebsebOct 27 00:57
XFaCEschestowitz: Nokia suicide has hit mainstream Canadian news http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2011/10/26/technology-nokia-windows-smartphones.htmlOct 27 00:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nokia unveils Windows smartphones - Technology & Science - CBC News .::. Size~: 45.35 KBOct 27 00:57
schestowitzLOLOct 27 00:58
schestowitzWIndows in mobile is so shamefulOct 27 00:58
schestowitzIt's like someone tells you, "Comrade, me bought LADA!"Oct 27 00:58
XFaCEschestowitz: The latest Windows CE is now VP7Oct 27 00:58
XFaCEVista CE?Oct 27 00:58
schestowitzWindows CE ME NTOct 27 00:58
schestowitzUnlike s***, it doesn't even floatOct 27 00:59
XFaCEWindows 2000, built off New Technology technologyOct 27 00:59
cubezzzI thought windows was bad back in the 2.0 daysOct 27 01:00
schestowitzhttp://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/is-this-new-ubuntu-1204-precise.htmlOct 27 01:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Is This The New Ubuntu 12.04 Precise Pangolin Icon Theme? ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 65.78 KBOct 27 01:00
schestowitzmeh. talking about themes and wallpapers again, not featuresOct 27 01:00
schestowitzcubezzz: it's still badOct 27 01:00
schestowitzit just gets imposed on people more effectivelyOct 27 01:00
XFaCEschestowitz: I do care about some theme news.Oct 27 01:00
cubezzzI know itOct 27 01:00
XFaCE!google xfce albatrossOct 27 01:01
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Albatross « The Shimmer Project | http://shimmerproject.org/project/albatross/Oct 27 01:01
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Include Albatross theme with XFCE by default? (Page 1) / General ... | http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php%3Fid%3D5721Oct 27 01:01
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Puppy Linux Discussion Forum :: View topic - Xfce Albatross theme ... | http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php%3Ft%3D63378%26sid%3D35faa348a0a1b8b21ce31f5179cbcb2fOct 27 01:01
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - AUR (en) - xfce-theme-albatross | http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php%3FID%3D46008Oct 27 01:01
XFaCEThat's it :)Oct 27 01:01
schestowitz!google balmer albatrossOct 27 01:01
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Jawaharlal Nehru Custom House | http://www.jawaharcustoms.gov.in/newsite/CFS/cfs.aspOct 27 01:01
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - LIST OF ICDs/CFSs APPROVED BY THE IMC WHICH ARE UNDER ... | http://commerce.nic.in/trade/icd_list.pdfOct 27 01:01
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - PCTII #9 | http://www.pctii.org/pctii9.htmlOct 27 01:01
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - An Agent Based Demand Modeling Framework for Large Scale ... | http://matsim.org/uploads/ab329.pdfOct 27 01:01
XFaCEschestowitz: That didn't work out like you hoped. :DOct 27 01:01
schestowitz!google ballmer albatrossOct 27 01:01
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - America's oldest known wild bird a new mother - CSMonitor.com | http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2011/0309/America-s-oldest-known-wild-bird-a-new-motherOct 27 01:01
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Report: Brewing Exec Revolt against Microsoft's Ballmer - Tech Talk ... | http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-20011330-501465.htmlOct 27 01:01
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Astrology: Steve Ballmer, born 1956/03/24, Horoscope, Natal Chart ... | http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/pY42wd8cKSK7.htmOct 27 01:01
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - find similar results - Search Results - Local Search | http://search.nwsource.com/search%3Fsimilarto%3DMB%253A2004393733Oct 27 01:01
XFaCE" America's oldest known wild bird a new mother"Oct 27 01:02
schestowitz!google ballmer alcatrasOct 27 01:02
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Ballmer Peak by Department of Offense - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DcEzww8bxckIOct 27 01:02
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Zynga rolls out valet parking, Alcatraz crab cakes, craft beers to woo ... | http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2011/04/zynga-rolls-out-valet-parking.htmlOct 27 01:02
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - AL CAPONE IN ALCATRAZ! - About Business Strategy... Well ... | http://a--sandeep.blogspot.com/2011/04/al-capone-in-alcatraz.htmlOct 27 01:02
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Who is MORE Pathetic…Microsoft or Steve Ballmer? | Howard Lindzon | http://howardlindzon.com/who-is-more-patheticmicrosoft-or-steve-ballmer/Oct 27 01:02
XFaCEBalmer is pretty oldOct 27 01:02
schestowitz50sOct 27 01:03
schestowitzis MArkS 40 yet?Oct 27 01:03
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XFaCEschestowitz: What did you do now Roy?Oct 27 01:09
schestowitzmy connection went wonkyOct 27 01:09
schestowitz[01:08] <schestowitz> hhmmm..Oct 27 01:09
schestowitz[01:03] <schestowitz> He must be around that age, let's eee....Oct 27 01:09
schestowitz[01:04] <schestowitz> Google is downOct 27 01:09
schestowitz[01:04] <schestowitz> OMG! GOOGLE IS DOWN!!! OMG OMGOct 27 01:09
schestowitz[01:04] <schestowitz> I'm trying to find DogpileOct 27 01:09
schestowitz[01:05] <schestowitz> But Google is downOct 27 01:09
schestowitz[01:05] <schestowitz> So I need to guess the address :-)Oct 27 01:09
schestowitzage 38Oct 27 01:10
schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_ShuttleworthOct 27 01:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mark Shuttleworth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 85.88 KBOct 27 01:10
schestowitzI thbk TOrvalds is 41Oct 27 01:10
schestowitzLinux is youngOct 27 01:10
schestowitz:XFaCE!~XFaCE@unaffiliated/xface PRIVMSG #techrights :schestowitz: Stress and excessive anger can age you.Oct 27 01:11
schestowitz:XFaCE!~XFaCE@unaffiliated/xface PRIVMSG #techrights :schestowitz: Not to mention pulled muscles from excessive chair throwing.  And dehydration from excessive perspiration.Oct 27 01:11
schestowitzhttp://flossstuff.wordpress.com/2011/10/25/search-wikipedia-through-cli-shell-in-linux/Oct 27 01:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Search Wikipedia Through CLI (Shell) In Linux « Flossstuff's Blog .::. Size~: 65.49 KBOct 27 01:13
schestowitzDrat!Oct 27 01:14
schestowitzI lost connection with a remote computational serverOct 27 01:14
schestowitz2 hours of experiments down the drainOct 27 01:14
schestowitzI have to start againOct 27 01:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz ONE MAN can shut off all broadcasting in the U.S.? http://is.gd/qolUrl #usOct 27 01:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Living Freedom  » Blog Archive   » ONE MAN can shut off all broadcasting in the U.S.? .::. Size~: 64.1 KBOct 27 01:15
cubezzzBell Labs has a good history of giving away operating systems for freeOct 27 01:17
cubezzzUnix wasn't the firstOct 27 01:17
cubezzzBESYS was used in the mid-60s and it was made available to others without chargeOct 27 01:18
cubezzzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHARE_%28computing%29Oct 27 01:20
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 403 ForbiddenOct 27 01:20
cubezzzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHARE_(computing)Oct 27 01:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SHARE (computing) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 45.78 KBOct 27 01:20
schestowitzI'm getting an interview with a guy from Microsoft..Oct 27 01:29
schestowitz"The Calligra team is proud and excited to release the third beta version of the Calligra Suite. Since the start of the Calligra effort, we have had a long and very productive development phase. In the mean time we have released four snapshot versions, also known as alphas, to give the users a chance to see what we are doing."Oct 27 01:29
schestowitzoopsOct 27 01:29
schestowitzThisOct 27 01:29
schestowitz"Oct 27 01:29
schestowitz> I'm starting to work on this... do you have a firm deadline?Oct 27 01:29
schestowitzNot at all. Thanks for taking the time to help a good cause.Oct 27 01:29
schestowitz"Oct 27 01:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Fight for free speech online - reject the draconian Internet Blacklist Legislation. https://eff.org/r.C8A #PROTECTIP #SOPA via @effOct 27 01:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Take Action | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 25.3 KBOct 27 01:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @eff Fight for free speech online - reject the draconian Internet Blacklist Legislation. https://eff.org/r.C8A #PROTECTIP #SOPA via @effOct 27 01:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Take Action | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 25.3 KBOct 27 01:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz I have no idea what was legal there & then ... or here then either for that matter #whatadifferenceafewdecadesmakeOct 27 01:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Pfui. Important !privacy issue considering the kinds of digital laws *your* government and *my* government are passing lately #DEAct !C11Oct 27 01:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] LWN.net Weekly Edition for October 27, 2011 http://ur1.ca/5ina7Oct 27 01:50
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 302 FoundOct 27 01:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Spam comment had link : buyingrealtwitterfollowers dot com < this is one use for identity theft info - why online !privacy is importantOct 27 01:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Since there is a Lesser GPL, shouldn't AGPL be the Greater GPL? :-)Oct 27 02:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2011/08/05/living-in-the-past.htmlOct 27 02:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: You're Living in the Past, Dude! - Bradley M. Kuhn ( Brad ) ( bkuhn ) .::. Size~: 22.25 KBOct 27 02:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Ooooh.Oct 27 02:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @fontana My opinion on the licensing status of noticeless files in #QEMU http://ur1.ca/5imeu !GPLOct 27 02:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Interesting reading, thank you for sharing.Oct 27 02:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Qemu-devel] An opinion on copyright-notice-less qemu files .::. Size~: 13.59 KBOct 27 02:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] You are welcome to do some missionary work in my town.Oct 27 02:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @jezra @jonkulp yes, seasons are for getting drunkOct 27 02:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @tonybaldwin Opinion: GOP backs tax hike...for the poor - http://fukn.me/7h @POLITICOOct 27 02:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Opinion: GOP backs tax hike -- for the poor - Robert L. Borosage - POLITICO.com .::. Size~: 111.45 KBOct 27 02:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] I don't get it. I don't get it. I don't get it. I don't get it. I don't get it. That's better. I'll say no more about #SN10 today.Oct 27 02:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @mgifford Enjoying the @JesseBrown interview with @mgeist about digital locks in Canada's new !copyright bill http://ur1.ca/5io5g !C11Oct 27 03:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lstench Great resource #homeschool !education http://ur1.ca/5io5dOct 27 03:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Audio Podcast #109:Digital Lockdown | Search Engine .::. Size~: 55.09 KBOct 27 03:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Home School Commons | A Home School Commons Repository .::. Size~: 31.52 KBOct 27 03:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] Three days left for Early Bird Rego!1!1! To the Registrationy Machine! #LCA2012Oct 27 03:20
XFaCEhey, gnufreex, you're hereOct 27 03:20
XFaCEand msb_Oct 27 03:20
gnufreexXFaCE: heyOct 27 03:21
XFaCEhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1gOTAgQJQ4Oct 27 03:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Robaxacet Commercial 1995       - YouTube .::. Size~: 79.59 KBOct 27 03:21
XFaCEgnufreex: Make an Microsoft/proprietary - GNU+Linux/Free Software analogy out of that commercial. :)Oct 27 03:25
gnufreexXFaCE: lolOct 27 03:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] If you let ad hominem attacks bother you, then those ugly bastards who criticise you have won.Oct 27 03:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "Before you diagnose yourself w/depression or low self esteem,1st make sure that you r not...just surrounded by assholes."~William Gibson !qOct 27 03:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Reader’s Picks Impressive demonstration of HTML5 Hardware In the US, “Windows operating system fell to inst http://ur1.ca/5iohmOct 27 03:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ Reader’s Picks Impressive demonstration of HTML5 Hardware In the US, “Windows operating system fell to inst http://ur1. ...Oct 27 03:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @laurelrusswurm: unscrupulous employers are using recession to keep employees in line(forcing existing employees to do more work less pay)Oct 27 04:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @lstench the end of blogs http://ur1.ca/5iohq < maybe, but i very much doubt it. May be fun tech but too much work for visitors.Oct 27 04:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The End of Blogs (and Maybe Websites) as We Know Them - Forbes .::. Size~: 107.14 KBOct 27 04:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] We need to take that crack-pipe away from Congress: http://is.gd/O08Ea6Oct 27 04:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: House takes Senate's bad Internet censorship bill, tries making it worse .::. Size~: 38.64 KBOct 27 04:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @pieterbeulque Heb die wrapper nog niet gebruikt - @QKaiser est-ce que tu peux aider Pieter stp?Oct 27 04:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Vraagt zich plots af waarom hij nog geen antwoord kreeg op een mail die hij stuurde in maart.Oct 27 04:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @BartRosseau: Let's get busy! RT @stefroelandt I want #Belgium next year on this awesome #opendata i http://ur1. ...Oct 27 04:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @stefroelandt Thanks for the link! @BartRosseau - what do you think?Oct 27 04:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @BartHanssens momenteel nog plain old xml/json. 2.0 wordt RESTful met meer datasets. Release 5 december :)Oct 27 04:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @bdg you can then select the right kernel when grub shows up :)Oct 27 04:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @bdg downgrading to older kernel is not a problem! I'm doing this with my ubuntu installation (apt-get http://ur1. ...Oct 27 04:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: http://t.co/e5xDout2 - Bringing intellectual property to a new level of absurdity: trademarking #occupywallstreetOct 27 04:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @greetd mss eerst eens een mailtje proberen sturen;)Oct 27 04:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: http://t.co/CB9Kf13G - What @Miel_vds and I presented at #ogdcamp in Warsaw - #TheDataTankOct 27 04:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @coreation @t1mdp heimelijk dan nog welOct 27 04:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @bdg ik denk dat @hannesvdvreken daar meer ervaring mee heeft. Met 2.6 kernel heb ik het nog getest en http://ur1. ...Oct 27 04:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Tanfoglio_ kom maar, 't is hier gezellig. Pak je een ice tea mee voor me?Oct 27 04:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: International Open Data Hackathon 2011 http://t.co/RcDOdORnOct 27 04:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @QKaiser who is we?Oct 27 04:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp @stevenn nee. Ik had geen idee waarvoor ik dat ooit zou kunnen gebruiken. Iedereen is wel eens naïef geweest.Oct 27 04:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @fs111 does you have an emacs port?Oct 27 04:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp heb ook al overwogen SOAP te gebruiken ipv REST. Fielding is eigenlijk maar een zaag ;)Oct 27 04:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @b_b_b_a_r_t: interested in Open Data? Help The DataTank with the Belgian chapter of the Open Knowle http://ur1. ...Oct 27 04:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @bdg ik gebruik vpnc van op command lineOct 27 04:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Q: How do you keep a moron in suspense ?...Oct 27 04:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] .....does !emacs have the ability to use ftp via elisp? I have an ideaOct 27 05:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] I didn't even say what I'm thinking yet :POct 27 05:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] http://ur1.ca/5ipliOct 27 05:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] fair enough. I was thinking something like !firefox sync. it periodically gzs and backs up your .emacs and elisp directory, then ftpsOct 27 05:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] to a server that you specify, of course ;)Oct 27 05:11
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LirodonJust wondering, would forking SUSE help the cause?Oct 27 05:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] knew tramp mode existed, wasn't sure if you could do stuff with it via elisp. I'll take a look.Oct 27 05:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] am emailing this link to my offspring :)Oct 27 05:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] oddly enough dired doesn't seem to provide the ability to tar to scripts #whoknewOct 27 06:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @naomi_krueger Myth: it is easier to combat slavery in democratic countries where law & order exists 2 protect the women being exploited!Oct 27 06:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] okay. tramp has no functions useful, ftp can only open a connection, not script upload/download...Oct 27 06:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @kindleauthors "The next best promotion is more good books." http://ur1.ca/5iqdm !writeOct 27 06:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] plus I can't shell-command it because ftp can only open a connection too.Oct 27 06:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @pussreboots rt@barryeisler Holy.Fucking.Shit. RT@JasonLeopold BP approval 4 new deepwater drilling in Gulf of Mexico http://ur1.ca/5iqfjOct 27 06:28
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DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKMxx9f5Ckk&feature=relatedOct 27 06:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Another Jesse reports on Bill !C11 : Jesse Kline on !copyright reform and the case of the illicit t-shirts http://ur1.ca/5iqi4 !CdnPoliOct 27 06:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Copyright reform in Canada: Bill C-11 and the case of the illicit t-shirts | Full Comment | National Post .::. Size~: 69.84 KBOct 27 06:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Great summary posted by @n8willis on the Linux Kernel Panel featuring Linus Torvalds at #linuxconeurope http://t.co/dqJFF5ywOct 27 06:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] I assume they're using the same method I'm stuck with.. lots and lots and lots of (shell-command)Oct 27 06:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] eh, I know that I don't have any of those, so it's not exactly useful for me in that caseOct 27 06:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] oh wonderful, new problem: I need to cd to ~ to avoid the full dir tree ending up in the tar, but I can't seem to cd..Oct 27 06:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] ooh, there's a cd function...Oct 27 06:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] woo, it's working.Oct 27 07:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] well, kinda. I haven't added retrieval yet.Oct 27 07:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Nice. AppsForCommunities - http://ur1.ca/3w9ccOct 27 07:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] off to sleep.... so much to do between now & !NaNoWriMoOct 27 07:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !tzaf !identiverseOct 27 07:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] though it uses scp instead of ftp. safer that way to begin with(and faster, or at least it feels like it to me)Oct 27 07:23
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RnVz7ECat0Oct 27 07:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] yeah, it'll tar up .emacs.d and .emacs, then scp it to the server. working on having configurable elisp dirs now.Oct 27 07:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] well, not anymore, too tired...Oct 27 07:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] and as a quick note, you should be able to run-at-time if you use a passwordless ssh key ;)Oct 27 07:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] fun! http://ur1.ca/5ir48Oct 27 07:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Bad news: #net4change is over; good news: so is my wonderful spam related to that. /me signing off and going to catch the plane.Oct 27 07:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: RT @thewirereport: Bill C-11 committee membership has been struck. No chair yet but expected by next week. http://t.co/WPPFJVlzOct 27 07:50
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DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27fLMvryCn4Oct 27 08:37
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schestowitz[05:16] <Lirodon> Just wondering, would forking SUSE help the cause?Oct 27 08:38
schestowitzYes, with a new trademark or noneOct 27 08:38
schestowitz!google opensuse fork techrightsOct 27 08:38
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Why Novell is the Next Sun and OpenSUSE Should be Forked ... | http://techrights.org/2010/05/26/immediate-profit-and-opensuse/Oct 27 08:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Has No Majority Market Share Anymore, Linux Gains http://is.gd/RY8NXm http://is.gd/PoIwX5 #linuxOct 27 08:38
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DaemonFChttp://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2011/10/guy_called_cookie_monster_offe.phpOct 27 08:39
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schestowitzDaemonFC: wtf?Oct 27 08:40
DaemonFC:)Oct 27 08:40
schestowitzsee the related videos thingsOct 27 08:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] !Tizen Summit Asia, 8-9 December 2011, !Beijing http://tizensummitasia2011.com/ /cc: !MeeGoOct 27 08:45
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DaemonFChttp://gothamist.com/2011/10/19/pepper_spray_cop_tony_bologna_disci.phpOct 27 08:45
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DaemonFChttp://gothamist.com/2011/09/30/jon_stewart_gives_pepper_spray_cop.phpOct 27 08:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Video: Jon Stewart Gives Pepper Spray Cop Anthony Bologna His Own TV Show: Gothamist .::. Size~: 37.72 KBOct 27 08:46
DaemonFCChris Maloney is Tony Bologna in THe VigilognaOct 27 08:47
DaemonFC"Crime doesn't spray, but I do"Oct 27 08:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Looking forward to @dhohndel take on #linux20th. An insider's perspective. #linuxconeuropeOct 27 08:48
DaemonFCmy favorite bit was where he sprays the hot dog vendor and then says "Maybe I did ask for saurkraut"Oct 27 08:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Why was Linux successful in the beginning? Timing, license choice, the people, and "pure, damn luck," says @dhohndel #linuxconeuropeOct 27 08:55
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84821251Oct 27 08:56
TechrightsBot-tr@Alexandre Oliva (lxoliva)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-11 01:45:17 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz not that hard.  look at big pharmaOct 27 08:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Linux is as much about social science as computer science, says @dhohndel #linuxconeuropeOct 27 08:56
schestowitz"Yep, that's how the world works, sadly... " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/679629Oct 27 08:57
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DaemonFChttp://www.courier-journal.com/article/20111026/NEWS02/310260144/Indiana-weatherizes-homes-20-000-low-income-families?odyssey=nav%7CheadOct 27 09:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Indiana weatherizes homes of 20,000 low-income families | The Courier-Journal | courier-journal.com .::. Size~: 145.5 KBOct 27 09:08
DaemonFCActually, they took a grant meant to help poor people, and figured out loopholes to give the money away to businessesOct 27 09:08
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DaemonFChttp://www.indystar.com/article/20111026/BUSINESS/111026018/8-Indiana-companies-plan-layoffs-613-workers?odyssey=nav%7CheadOct 27 09:12
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DaemonFC"when plants are closed, downsized or closed."Oct 27 09:12
DaemonFCthey're going to close them twice?Oct 27 09:12
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DaemonFChttp://www.indystar.com/article/20111027/LOCAL/110270360/Duke-CEO-about-new-plant-Yes-s-expensive-?odyssey=tab%7Ctopnews%7Ctext%7CIndyStar.comOct 27 09:15
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DaemonFC"Yes it's expensive"Oct 27 09:15
DaemonFCcarbon tax nonsense is expensiveOct 27 09:15
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DaemonFCit is designed to kill the poorOct 27 09:15
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DaemonFCthe state should quit worrying about carbon nonsense and make them upgrade their power transmission line system so the power doesn't go out every time the wind blowsOct 27 09:17
DaemonFCbut this wouldn't further the goal of killing the poor in the name of carbon taxOct 27 09:17
DaemonFCif they were really worried about carbon emissions they wouldn't be building a large coal plantOct 27 09:18
amarsh04where I live, different companies own the power generation, high voltage transmission lines and low voltage distribution networkOct 27 09:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Video On How PROTECT IP Act Breaks The Internet http://goo.gl/oSstqOct 27 09:20
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DaemonFCamarsh04: The entire goal of carbon tax is to make home heating unaffordable to poor peopleOct 27 09:20
DaemonFCthe idea goes that if their heating bill doubles, more people will have no choice but to turn it off and become ill or dieOct 27 09:21
DaemonFCpushing people to invest in more efficient heating only works if they have the money to invest in more efficient heatingOct 27 09:21
DaemonFCif they can't pay their bills already, what makes you think they're going to go buy a new furnace and water heater?Oct 27 09:22
DaemonFCor as I like to mock Obama with "Sir, have you insulated that cardboard box yet?"Oct 27 09:22
DaemonFCthe price increase is artificial Oct 27 09:23
DaemonFCthere's no need for it other than government taxation and more resources being available to rich people who can still afford to wasteOct 27 09:23
DaemonFChttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1161459/Buckingham-Palace-tops-list-dirty-dozen-London-buildings-waste-energy.htmlOct 27 09:25
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DaemonFChttp://web.archive.org/web/20101001133638/http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100924/ap_on_re_eu/eu_britain_queen_s_billsOct 27 09:25
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azalynDaemonFC: are you a libertarian by any chance..?Oct 27 09:26
DaemonFCnot reallyOct 27 09:26
MinceRgeekingsOct 27 09:26
DaemonFCat least not in the way Libertarianism has come to mean in US parlance Oct 27 09:26
DaemonFCLibertarian = Republican that wants more for the rich but frames it in a way that makes it seem more fairOct 27 09:27
DaemonFCRepublican = Republican that wants more for the rich but distracts everyone with Jesus and gaysOct 27 09:27
azalynlibertarians are usually against regulation and big government. and very pro-capitalist.Oct 27 09:28
azalynit just seemed like you were arguing against regulationsOct 27 09:28
DaemonFCright, they want no regulations because it means more for the richOct 27 09:28
azalyni never read anything on the carbon tax.. but i thought it was something for businesses, not individuals.Oct 27 09:28
DaemonFCthey like stuff like NAFTA and the repeal of environmental protection lawsOct 27 09:29
azalynas in, the power companies would pay the carbon tax, not the customers.Oct 27 09:29
DaemonFCbecause it's cheap for businesses to outsource and dump toxic wast on the US that wayOct 27 09:29
MinceRhas this 'prevent businesses from increasing prices to fit new taxes' thing ever worked?Oct 27 09:30
DaemonFCazalyn: The carbon tax regulations are just a regressive tax on the poorOct 27 09:30
DaemonFCif you tell the power company to pay them, the bill goes upOct 27 09:30
DaemonFCif you tell the customers to pay it, the bill goes upOct 27 09:30
DaemonFCget rid of that tax periodOct 27 09:30
azalyni do like seeing incentive programs to make green technology cheaper though..Oct 27 09:30
azalynmaybe instead of a tax, they could just subsidize green energy.Oct 27 09:30
schestowitzazalyn: that's the 'new' libertarianOct 27 09:30
schestowitzthey killed the original wordOct 27 09:31
azalynschestowitz: by the way, is it just me or is your avatar on your site kind of stretched? :POct 27 09:31
DaemonFCthey should encourage nuclear power instead of coalOct 27 09:31
azalynthe aspect ratio seems offOct 27 09:31
DaemonFCcoal kills more people every year in the US than nuclear power ever hasOct 27 09:31
azalynyeah, nuclear is certainly better. but not when idiots are running it..Oct 27 09:31
schestowitzAnarchism also got a bad name... along with socialism... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxPUvQZ3rcQOct 27 09:31
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DaemonFCeven if you only consider mine collapsesOct 27 09:31
DaemonFCit still kills more peopleOct 27 09:32
azalyni mean look at the disaster in japan.. that should never have happened.Oct 27 09:32
MinceRhttp://syhw.posterous.com/two-amusing-side-channel-attacksOct 27 09:32
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DaemonFCwell, you can't build a nuclear power plant in the most seismically active area in the world and not expect problemsOct 27 09:32
azalynnuclear is better, but you need to have every safeguard imaginable.. you should aim to exceed safety requirements. not 'meet' them.Oct 27 09:32
DaemonFCthe biggest earthquake Indiana has had in hundreds of years was a magnitude 5.8Oct 27 09:33
DaemonFCwhich is not that severeOct 27 09:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] (1) I wonder how many #Android users are aware of the fact that they are using a modified version of #Linux and are thus Linux users.Oct 27 09:33
azalynDaemonFC: oh come on. this is just an engineering problem. it's just a matter of having more safeguards.Oct 27 09:33
azalyna reactor should be able to withstand *anything*, it should never make assumptionsOct 27 09:34
azalynor the engineers rather, should never make assumptions.Oct 27 09:34
DaemonFCsafeguards cost money, libertarians probably advocate no safeguards and the rich people that own the plant living as far away from it as possible while collecting the checksOct 27 09:34
DaemonFC:)Oct 27 09:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] (2) I ask this myself because IMHO the majority seem to be ignorant M$ fanboyees and Windopws lusers :-(Oct 27 09:35
DaemonFCschestowitz: Be a sport and pay your taxes so Buckingham Palace can keep wasting energy and charging it to the tax payersOct 27 09:37
DaemonFC:)Oct 27 09:37
DaemonFC"Taxpayers fund the royal household to the tune of $60 million (38.2 million pounds) a year, which the monarch's official website points out costs Britain's 62 million people less than a dollar (62 pence) each"Oct 27 09:39
DaemonFCfor just $1 a day, you can feed this starving monarchOct 27 09:39
DaemonFCwould you look into her eyes and tell her she needs to give up one of her dozen palaces or castles or perhaps auction some things off if she has trouble paying the heat bill?Oct 27 09:40
MinceRso they do parasitize the british people, contrary to claimsOct 27 09:40
DaemonFCMinceR: I'd still be pissed if I was paying thatOct 27 09:41
DaemonFCIt may only be $1, but it is THEIR $1Oct 27 09:41
DaemonFCand she doesn't do anything to earn itOct 27 09:41
DaemonFCWhat can $60 million do?Oct 27 09:42
DaemonFCSupport 1 queenOct 27 09:42
DaemonFCor feed millions of hungry peopleOct 27 09:42
DaemonFChell, put it into food stampsOct 27 09:42
DaemonFCgive it to people who work full time jobs and have nothing anywayOct 27 09:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #OpenSource, #OpenScience, Open Source Science - http://bit.ly/sZriQW it's the future #sciencecodemanifestoOct 27 09:43
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schestowitzhttp://www.androidguys.com/2011/10/27/music-coming-to-the-android-market-soon/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+androidguyscom+%28AndroidGuys%29Oct 27 09:44
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DaemonFCIan Laming, a 49-year-old carpenter, said the government should have OK'd her request.Oct 27 09:44
DaemonFC"She helps a lot," he said, adding that the monarch was a big boon to the U.K. economy.Oct 27 09:44
DaemonFC"You just have to walk down to Buckingham Palace to see all the tourists."Oct 27 09:44
DaemonFCMinceR: President Bush helped the US economyOct 27 09:44
DaemonFCbecause tourists still visited Washington, D.C. while he was thereOct 27 09:44
DaemonFC:)Oct 27 09:44
DaemonFChe really helped us a lotOct 27 09:44
schestowitzDaemonFC: the monarchy does help tourismOct 27 09:45
DaemonFCso did BushOct 27 09:45
schestowitzThat's the argument I've been making anywayOct 27 09:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !linuxlibre 3.1-libre-lemote and 3.0.[78]-libre-lemote mipsel binaries for !gnewsense !yeeloong now availableOct 27 09:45
schestowitzBush's tombstomne maybeOct 27 09:45
schestowitzWhen it's doneOct 27 09:45
schestowitzYou could have fleets of planes from the middle east coming with a large supply of shoes to throw at itOct 27 09:45
DaemonFC"Look, that's where the American warlord decides easy targets for oil raids and strategic assassinations of uncooperative dictators they  probably installed 30 years ago!"Oct 27 09:46
DaemonFC"Get a picture will you?" "No, wait, the police tend to frown on that"Oct 27 09:46
DaemonFC"No, it's OK, we're not brown people"Oct 27 09:46
MinceRi suspect they could still show off the places and relics and monarchy even if they didn't maintain actual monarchs and a monarchyOct 27 09:46
MinceRso the tourism argument is suspectOct 27 09:47
MinceReven in hungary, castles still attack tourists without the parasites insideOct 27 09:47
DaemonFCMinceR: There's where the queen used to live before we stopped subsidizing her and fed her to the poorOct 27 09:47
MinceRsome of them were converted into museumsOct 27 09:47
DaemonFCget a picture kids!Oct 27 09:47
MinceR:>Oct 27 09:47
DaemonFCsure, she was tough and gamey, but she was well fedOct 27 09:47
MinceRthey could even show the rooms currently occupied by the monarch's familyOct 27 09:48
DaemonFCThat painting cost the British people 12 million pounds, but it was worth it because it increased pride in our national identity!Oct 27 09:49
DaemonFCand over on the left, here are some imported tapestries Oct 27 09:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Just Because Something's Fake Doesn't Mean It Can't Be Innovative - http://bit.ly/vAmAcO it's the future...maybe #shanzhai #chinaOct 27 09:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Just Because Something's Fake Doesn't Mean It Can't Be Innovative | Techdirt .::. Size~: 56.96 KBOct 27 09:50
DaemonFCMinceR: Bush's Interior Secretary spent over $150,000 redecorating his office restroomOct 27 09:50
DaemonFCincluding monogrammed towelsOct 27 09:51
DaemonFCit's OK though because it inspired him to be the best damned oil company lobbyist he could beOct 27 09:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @royhugo: La vidéo de la conférence de Richard Stallman @SciencesPo est en ligne http://ur1.ca/583htOct 27 09:53
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MinceR:>Oct 27 09:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Leading French Presidential Candidate Would Repeal #HADOPI But Keep Net Surveillance - http://bit.ly/s14ya6 mais non... #franceOct 27 09:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Leading French Presidential Candidate Would Repeal HADOPI But Keep Net Surveillance | Techdirt .::. Size~: 37.64 KBOct 27 09:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] D.Blankenhorn on Caesar, S.Jobs and Intellectual Protectionism http://ur1.ca/5isg9 via @carlopianaOct 27 10:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Coo Idea http://ur1.ca/5isgvOct 27 10:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #India's cotton yield may fall to 5-year low - http://bit.ly/sIcfgE so how's that Bt cotton revolution coming along? #gmOct 27 10:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[comzeradd/@comzeradd] private information paradox http://ur1.ca/5iskw !wikileaks #facebookOct 27 10:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[piracy/@piracy] Two More NinjaVideo Admins Plead Guilty http://j.mp/vD5rpw #piracyOct 27 10:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Newzbin Judge: studios have asked other ISPs to voluntarily block, circumstances may be different for each ISP - http://bit.ly/utiyOg badOct 27 10:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU executive proposes tougher disclosure for mining & logging cos - http://bit.ly/sDvfgK about time #corruptionOct 27 10:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EU executive proposes tougher disclosure for miners  | EurActiv .::. Size~: 122.9 KBOct 27 10:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] TSA agent that left dildorific comment in women's luggage probably got promoted http://identi.ca/url/56366789Oct 27 10:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Government caught cooking books, "found" missing money already spent on undocumented expenditures http://identi.ca/url/56367218Oct 27 10:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Oakland newspaper prints feelgood anti-#Occupy article http://identi.ca/url/56367252Oct 27 10:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Occupy Oakland: video shows police officer throwing flashbang into crowd trying to help injured protester http://identi.ca/url/56367273Oct 27 10:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] PROTECT IP Renamed To the E-PARASITE Act http://identi.ca/url/56367432 !effOct 27 10:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Triticum Fever, by Dr. William Davis, author of Wheat Belly http://identi.ca/url/56367509Oct 27 10:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Royal Society journal archive made permanently free to access http://identi.ca/url/56367829 !scienceOct 27 10:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] One-percenter: why I support #Occupy http://identi.ca/url/56367846Oct 27 10:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] The roots of perennial wheat http://identi.ca/url/56367889 !scienceOct 27 10:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels nowOct 27 10:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels nowOct 27 10:42
DaemonFChttp://slashdot.org/story/11/10/26/235219/antitrust-case-over-microsoft-ties-ie-10-to-win-8Oct 27 10:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Antitrust Case Over, Microsoft Ties IE 10 To Win 8 - Slashdot .::. Size~: 160.21 KBOct 27 10:43
DaemonFCWindows 98 all over againOct 27 10:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @jagij bah, e-mails aangetekend versturen is allesbehalve feilloos en ik vind het zelf vervelend om zo' http://ur1. ...Oct 27 10:47
sparcatuscoolOct 27 10:47
sparcatusmeans a revamp of Windows ME will soon followOct 27 10:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] A new Fellowship Interview is online! http://www.ur1.ca/5h0vn !gnu !freesoftwareOct 27 10:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Dennis Ritchie Day http://identi.ca/url/56300206 !fsf !linuxOct 27 10:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Hunger overwhelming http://identi.ca/url/56369499Oct 27 10:58
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DaemonFChttp://the-gadgeteer.com/2011/10/13/hijakker-bootable-usb-drive-with-xubuntu-review/Oct 27 11:01
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DaemonFClolOct 27 11:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Feeding the Mentally Ill http://ur1.ca/5itjw #techrightsOct 27 11:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Washington Post [IMG] http://ur1.ca/5itk0 #whitewash #onepercentOct 27 11:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Protest is patriotic only when "they" do it. [IMG] http://ur1.ca/5itkbOct 27 11:07
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DaemonFCschestowitz: police officers go around petting kittens Oct 27 11:08
DaemonFC:)Oct 27 11:08
schestowitzawww..Oct 27 11:09
schestowitzFor the local papersOct 27 11:09
schestowitz"Look... they're just like you and me!"Oct 27 11:09
schestowitz[only difference is, they chose a career that lets them beat people up without the police showing up at their door :-)]Oct 27 11:10
DaemonFCschestowitz: They can be humane Oct 27 11:11
DaemonFCpepper spray and tasers are non lethal (usually)Oct 27 11:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Two Amusing Side Channel Attacks http://identi.ca/url/56370441Oct 27 11:12
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DaemonFCit takes a big man to mace and taser people in wheel chairsOct 27 11:12
DaemonFCand then body slam them to the groundOct 27 11:12
DaemonFCsomeone has to do itOct 27 11:12
DaemonFCthen go pet the kittensOct 27 11:12
DaemonFCif I come across a stray kitten, I take it to the animal shelterOct 27 11:13
DaemonFCit won't last long outsideOct 27 11:13
DaemonFCpeople abandon them all the timeOct 27 11:13
DaemonFCI like how the newspaper blamed the protesters for abandoning that catOct 27 11:14
DaemonFChow do they know who abandoned the cat?Oct 27 11:14
schestowitzDaemonFC: Oct 27 11:15
schestowitz> To Google's credit, apparently they refused to take down videos showingOct 27 11:15
schestowitz> police brutality.Oct 27 11:15
schestowitz> Oct 27 11:15
schestowitz> ~~Oct 27 11:15
schestowitz> Google: US law enforcement tried to get videos removed from YouTubeOct 27 11:15
schestowitz> Oct 27 11:15
schestowitz> Google faced down demands from a US law enforcement agency to take downOct 27 11:15
schestowitz> YouTube videos allegedly showing police brutality earlier this year,Oct 27 11:15
schestowitz> figures released for the first time show.Oct 27 11:15
schestowitz> Oct 27 11:15
schestowitz> The technology giant's biannual transparency report shows that GoogleOct 27 11:15
schestowitz> refused the demands from the unnamed authority in the first half of thisOct 27 11:15
schestowitz> year.Oct 27 11:15
schestowitz> Oct 27 11:15
schestowitz> According to the report, Google separately declined orders by other policeOct 27 11:15
schestowitz> authorities to remove videos that allegedly defamed law enforcementOct 27 11:15
schestowitz> officials.Oct 27 11:15
schestowitz> Oct 27 11:15
schestowitz> The demands formed part of a 70% rise in takedown requests from the USOct 27 11:15
schestowitz> government or police, and were revealed as part of an effort to highlightOct 27 11:15
schestowitz> online censorship around the world.Oct 27 11:15
schestowitz> ~~Oct 27 11:15
schestowitz> http://tinyurl.com/3bdcervOct 27 11:15
schestowitz> Oct 27 11:15
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schestowitz> But we're not a police state. Just a nice little country where policeOct 27 11:15
schestowitz> should be able to beat on citizens without having to worry about theirOct 27 11:15
schestowitz> deeds being brought out into the open.Oct 27 11:15
DaemonFCschestowitz: I had a police officer come up to my apartment and ask why I was recording what they were doing out in the alleyOct 27 11:16
DaemonFCI told them because they were in public and I can do thatOct 27 11:16
DaemonFChe said they didn't appreciate it, and then leftOct 27 11:17
DaemonFCthen again, the police can be useful schestowitzOct 27 11:17
DaemonFCI reported that child molester that was violating his paroleOct 27 11:18
DaemonFCthey picked him up and sent him back to prison for a few more yearsOct 27 11:18
DaemonFCthey thanked me for that because they had been looking for him and his relatives weren't helpingOct 27 11:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Rich people use their henchmen to try and remove evidence of crimes of their private armies http://ur1.ca/5itpl #usOct 27 11:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google: US law enforcement tried to get videos removed from YouTube | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 87.05 KBOct 27 11:18
DaemonFCI don't think child molesters should be in prison, I think they should be shotOct 27 11:19
DaemonFCbut it's just another group that better be glad I'm not making the lawsOct 27 11:19
DaemonFCVote DaemonFC: Pro-Kittens, For giving child molesters the electric chairOct 27 11:20
DaemonFCB-)Oct 27 11:20
schestowitzLOLOct 27 11:20
schestowitzYou're losing proporationsOct 27 11:20
schestowitzSo basically, more sever punishment for molestation than murder...Oct 27 11:21
DaemonFCdepends on the circumstances of the murderOct 27 11:21
DaemonFCin some cases I think it definitely calls for the death sentenceOct 27 11:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Yocto Project Introduces New Features http://is.gd/FakCqP #linuxOct 27 11:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] When Secrets Aren’t Safe With Journalists | NYT http://t.co/gzGRBWopOct 27 11:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Yocto Project Introduces New Features | The Linux Foundation .::. Size~: 42.35 KBOct 27 11:22
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DaemonFCthe problem is that equal crimes don't get equal punishments because a good lawyer can get the charges reducedOct 27 11:22
DaemonFCand a public defender probably won'tOct 27 11:22
DaemonFCthe problem is the system not being fair, not the punishment being unfairOct 27 11:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux Adds Backers at Rapid Pace http://is.gd/wdqOnUOct 27 11:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Linux Foundation Announces Five New European Members | The Linux Foundation .::. Size~: 77.43 KBOct 27 11:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Steve Jobs told Rupert Murdoch Fox News is an “incredibly destructive force” http://identi.ca/url/56371326Oct 27 11:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Massachusetts accidentally finishes transportation project under budget, saving federal taxpayers money http://identi.ca/url/56371403Oct 27 11:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Steve Jobs told Rupert Murdoch Fox News is an “incredibly destructive force” |  9to5Mac | Apple Intelligence .::. Size~: 54.44 KBOct 27 11:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Gov. Patrick: ‘Wacky rule’ could cost Mass. $15M in transportation funding - BostonHerald.com .::. Size~: 53.09 KBOct 27 11:25
DaemonFCWhen a car alarm goes off.....Oct 27 11:25
DaemonFCYou shout "Hurry up and steal it!"Oct 27 11:25
DaemonFC:)Oct 27 11:25
DaemonFCor at least I doOct 27 11:25
schestowitzLOLOct 27 11:26
DaemonFCschestowitz: Sometimes when I go to Walmart and see an expensive looking car, I go kick the tire to set off the alarmOct 27 11:27
DaemonFCthose drain the battery pretty fastOct 27 11:27
iophkDOSOct 27 11:27
DaemonFCif they leave it out there for a while, the thing may not startOct 27 11:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The World Became Dependent on #Linux http://ur1.ca/5itsf #kernelOct 27 11:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linuxcon: our world would collapse without linux- The Inquirer .::. Size~: 65.73 KBOct 27 11:28
DaemonFCI liked that episode of Breaking Bad where he popped that asshole's car hood up and took a squeegie and placed the metal backing onto the leads of the battery and walked off as it caught fireOct 27 11:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Planning Ubuntu 12.04 http://ur1.ca/5ittx LTS release -- an important oneOct 27 11:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Planning Ubuntu 12.04 | Daniel Holbach's blog .::. Size~: 16.01 KBOct 27 11:30
iophkCan 12.04 pick up Clementine  (http://www.clementine-player.org/) and drop that Mono thing?Oct 27 11:31
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 404 Not FoundOct 27 11:31
schestowitzI heard about some issues with itOct 27 11:32
schestowitzMaybe they can look into minirokOct 27 11:32
schestowitzusually very reliable but simpleOct 27 11:32
DaemonFCClementine is bizarre and in some places, crippledOct 27 11:32
schestowitztim had some issues with Clementine in pclosOct 27 11:33
MinceR"Why'd the hipster burn his mouth by drinking coffee? Because he drank it before it was cool."Oct 27 11:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Secondary #Fedora is hiring http://is.gd/49Yu04 #redhatOct 27 11:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: sharkcz - Secondary Fedora is hiring .::. Size~: 30.66 KBOct 27 11:33
DaemonFCthey go about damned near forever between releasesOct 27 11:34
DaemonFCso something improves in git and it takes months for that improvement to reach usersOct 27 11:34
DaemonFCwhich is a sign of software to be avoidedOct 27 11:34
DaemonFCit also comes with nonfree software by defaultOct 27 11:36
DaemonFCthe spotify stuffOct 27 11:36
schestowitzhttp://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2011/10/mozilla-and-microsoft-release-custom-firefox-with-bing.arsOct 27 11:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mozilla and Microsoft release custom Firefox with Bing .::. Size~: 31.74 KBOct 27 11:42
schestowitzDid you hear about itOct 27 11:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I have been planning an exit from Firefox for a while. Now there is catalyst for that. http://is.gd/CtmQjw http://is.gd/hFb5BH use #rekonqOct 27 11:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mozilla and Microsoft release custom Firefox with Bing .::. Size~: 31.74 KBOct 27 11:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Firefox partners with The Evil Empire | ZDNet .::. Size~: 145.82 KBOct 27 11:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Oh! Look! Money! Let's sell out, make some money with Microsoft..." - this was also Canonical's idea after hiring Asay and MS staffOct 27 11:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Asay is a former Novell employee who almost took a job at Microsoft. Novell also sold out to Microosft. Canonical manager came from MS.Oct 27 11:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] To Canonical's credit, after community outcry they quit the idea of imposing MS search, which had been announced by former MS employee.Oct 27 11:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] To clarify (and avoid being trolled), Mozilla is not /imposing/ MS search, but the deal shows that the new management cannot be trusted.Oct 27 11:50
DaemonFCFirefox already has bingOct 27 11:51
schestowitzyes, but they took MS cachOct 27 11:52
schestowitzto help promote MSOct 27 11:52
schestowitz*cashOct 27 11:52
schestowitzI don't know their new managerOct 27 11:52
schestowitzWith an east European nameOct 27 11:52
schestowitzBut I can't trust him nowOct 27 11:52
schestowitzIt was bad enough when they hired WindowOct 27 11:52
schestowitzSnider?Oct 27 11:53
schestowitzSnyder?Oct 27 11:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Rekonq is a web browser for KDE based on WebKit. It first focuses on being a light, fast & clean" http://rekonq.kde.org/ #kde #khtmlOct 27 11:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Rekonq | a KDE browser based on Webkit .::. Size~: 17.79 KBOct 27 11:53
DaemonFCFirefox with BingOct 27 11:54
DaemonFCSorry, this download is not supported by your system.Oct 27 11:54
DaemonFC:)Oct 27 11:54
DaemonFCschestowitz: I don't see the harmOct 27 11:55
DaemonFCthe only people who will likely notice are people using Bing anywayOct 27 11:55
DaemonFCand most of them use IEOct 27 11:55
DaemonFC"Last year, we worked with Mozilla to add Bing as a search option that ships with Firefox."Oct 27 11:56
DaemonFCa few lines in an OpenSearch XML file that they licensed under the MS-PLOct 27 11:56
DaemonFCand a fat wad of cashOct 27 11:56
schestowitzThis one is a partnershipOct 27 11:56
schestowitzAnd they might expand this in the futureOct 27 11:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Android Orphans: Visualizing a Sad History of Support - http://bit.ly/tuaXZe interesting: #google must sort this (v @robinwauters)Oct 27 11:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: the understatement: Android Orphans: Visualizing a Sad History of Support .::. Size~: 31.57 KBOct 27 11:57
schestowitzSo I don't feel comfortable being in this bed :-)Oct 27 11:57
DaemonFCI doubt Microsoft is willing to outbid GoogleOct 27 11:57
DaemonFCif they do it will just start a bidding warOct 27 11:57
DaemonFCMicrosoft is basically admitting that foisting it on IE users can't even get their usage share up over 5%Oct 27 11:58
DaemonFCand that they have to go pay a browser that Bill Gates publicly laughed at only 7 years ago to carry themOct 27 11:59
DaemonFCschestowitz: This is really what's wrong with browsersOct 27 11:59
DaemonFCthere aren't any major ones that have the user's best interests as a first priority Oct 27 12:00
DaemonFCtoday you search with Google, tomorrow it will be Yahoo, then Bing, then whoever pays us more nextOct 27 12:00
DaemonFCI think that really leads to a low quality end user experienceOct 27 12:00
DaemonFCwhen they keep changing around what the user has grown used to just because someone else pays them moreOct 27 12:01
DaemonFCand then to make matters worse, Linux distributions decide to fuck Mozilla, Opera, and Chrome and start their own bidding warsOct 27 12:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] US Marines to close brig that held WikiLeaks suspect | AFP http://t.co/NHSbVBRuOct 27 12:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Samsung flexible #AMOLED mass-production from Q2 2012; in phones that year - SlashGear - #mobile http://goo.gl/juDPMOct 27 12:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] PROTECT IP Renamed E-PARASITES Act; Would Create The Great Firewall Of America - http://bit.ly/tMVFwx they really want to break the NetOct 27 12:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "If you want a shiny barely-customizable straitjacket as a desktop environment, go buy a Mac." http://is.gd/hvrzHX #ubuntuOSXOct 27 12:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Mozilla Labs » Concept Series: #Seabird – A Community-driven #Mobile Phone Concept http://goo.gl/fSPDOct 27 12:02
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DaemonFCso just because upstream Opera, Chrome, or Firefox use Google doesn't mean Ubuntu or Linux Mint doOct 27 12:02
DaemonFCit's a really lousy thing to do, to hijack someone elses work and profit off it and not give them any moneyOct 27 12:02
DaemonFCbut Ubuntu already does this with Banshee wrt GNOMEOct 27 12:02
DaemonFCthey divert GNOME's donations from Amazon MP3 to their own pocketsOct 27 12:03
DaemonFCas well as from their own storeOct 27 12:03
DaemonFCMozilla has search partnerships to make money, changing the links to get yourself money and not giving Mozilla anything is just wrongOct 27 12:04
DaemonFCfind some legitimate way to make money without hijacking your users searches to some low quality site and starving Mozilla of cashOct 27 12:04
DaemonFCthat's where I am disgusted with MintOct 27 12:04
DaemonFCGoogle Custom Search is a jokeOct 27 12:05
DaemonFCit's simply awfulOct 27 12:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "I upgraded to Ubuntu 11.10, it wiped out my Gnome default environment and switched me back to Unity." http://is.gd/EAFgy4Oct 27 12:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Hang in the friends in Bangkok. Keep safe!Oct 27 12:05
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/681551 "Nice, cameras can't catch the portal, I didn't know that. I should have taken one… oops… you didn't read that, it's top secret… gateway to another world. "Oct 27 12:05
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DaemonFCit has more ads and way less featuresOct 27 12:05
DaemonFCthese automated NPC attacks are ridiculousOct 27 12:08
DaemonFCthey sent 15 suicide bombers after my base and all of them got mowed down by my turrets before they got closeOct 27 12:08
*DaemonFC is bored nowOct 27 12:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Did someone say free beer? Yes! At the oldest brewery in Prague. Just one of #linuxconeurope day one highlights: http://t.co/NaSPNzD4Oct 27 12:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It ought to be possible to appease both advanced users and beginners. #KDE 4.x does that quite well, but some would not agree.Oct 27 12:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Intellectual Property in #ACTA and the #TPP: Lessons Not Learned - http://bit.ly/sVS8tb great analysis; why TPP is worse (v @gnat)Oct 27 12:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] My dad and I use the same desktop environment. One presses icons to open a browser, another does more advanced stuff. Not impossible.Oct 27 12:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The problem with Unity is, it does not facilitate/support existing GNOME 2.3x and 3.x users to a degree which is satisf... http://b1t.it/LeOOct 27 12:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Despite the recent release of Ubuntu 11.10, Mint beats Ubuntu by a huge margin over the past week in DistroWatch. Is Unity to blame?Oct 27 12:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Hiring for secondary arch in Fedora http://ur1.ca/5iu8bOct 27 12:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: sharkcz - Secondary Fedora is hiring .::. Size~: 30.66 KBOct 27 12:10
DaemonFCschestowitz: I think GNOME 3.2 Mint will probably go over better than UnityOct 27 12:11
DaemonFCthat's a good call, avoiding this Unity mesOct 27 12:11
DaemonFC*messOct 27 12:11
DaemonFCRyan Farmer unlocked Bouncing Betties in War Commander.Oct 27 12:12
DaemonFCThis mine does its work at eye level -- now you see it, now your brains litter the battlefield.Oct 27 12:12
DaemonFCS MinesOct 27 12:12
DaemonFC:)Oct 27 12:12
DaemonFCthe only upgrade left for my mines is shaped chargesOct 27 12:12
schestowitz"Elementary OS is currently the best, and will be the best when they release Pantheon :) " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/681766Oct 27 12:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When I hear about Ubuntu trying to imitate OS X I usually think of this scene. http://is.gd/MAo3hJ #ubuntuOct 27 12:13
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84831735Oct 27 12:14
TechrightsBot-tr@gryps75 (gryps75)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-11 10:49:37 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Does it have vim-like keybindings? Something like !pentadactyl on #firefox ?Oct 27 12:14
schestowitzNot that I know of...Oct 27 12:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Not that I know of...Oct 27 12:18
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84832325Oct 27 12:22
TechrightsBot-tr@agentsmith's status on Thursday, 27-Oct-11 11:16:59 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz You bet. And Jono and Mark, of course.Oct 27 12:22
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84832352Oct 27 12:22
TechrightsBot-tr@Børge A. Roum (forteller)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-11 11:18:06 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz But I do think that Firefox should ask you what SE and startpage you want on first startup, like Windows asks about browserOct 27 12:22
iophkM$ returns to illegal tying again.Oct 27 12:22
iophkhttp://www.crn.com/news/applications-os/231901699/analysis-with-antitrust-decree-gone-microsoft-again-tying-browser-tightly-to-windows.htm;jsessionid=MAhF3ReeRbcPZB6GQBYOXQ**.ecappj01Oct 27 12:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Analysis: With Antitrust Decree Gone, Microsoft Again Tying Browser Tightly To Windows .::. Size~: 48.34 KBOct 27 12:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] I didn't write this poem but... http://ur1.ca/5iui6Oct 27 12:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: David Marsden - Google+ - I wrote a poem. *God Save The Queen* From WMDs, drones… .::. Size~: 44.75 KBOct 27 12:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] Some of our miniconfs are still open for submissions! http://bit.ly/q2vVHg #LCA2012Oct 27 12:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mini-Confs -  linux.conf.au 2012 | 16 - 20 Jan | Under the stars .::. Size~: 22.46 KBOct 27 12:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] The new fellowship interview with Rikard Fröberg is online: http://www.ur1.ca/5h0vn !gnu !freesoftwareOct 27 12:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fellowship interview with Rikard Fröberg «  Fellowship Interviews .::. Size~: 26.41 KBOct 27 12:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] :-) http://ur1.ca/5iulyOct 27 12:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bobby Adesuyan - Google+ - When the Jabber project was announced sometimes in the late… .::. Size~: 46.14 KBOct 27 12:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks cables: US 'lobbied Russia on behalf of Visa and MasterCard' | Guardian http://t.co/6tGrJmJ6Oct 27 12:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Assange: this battle is bigger than WikiLeaks | al Akhbar http://t.co/6fISAA8AOct 27 12:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: Interesting development RT @ZigaTurk: super-fast mobile Internet in higher education & research http://t.co http://p.ost.im/p/erVUeLOct 27 13:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Forgot the hashtag: #freeRafahNached I demand her immediate release from jail. http://p.ost.im/p/erwdKjOct 27 13:07
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DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/business/news/2011/10/work-uses-old-flaw-to-turn-unpatched-jboss-servers-into-botnet.arsOct 27 13:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Old flaw turns unpatched JBoss servers into botnet .::. Size~: 32.58 KBOct 27 13:20
DaemonFC" A recent report by Microsoft found that 3.2 percent of malware was from exploits for which security updates had been available for at least a year, and another 2.4 percent were related to exploits for which an update was available for less than a year."Oct 27 13:21
DaemonFCAt least some of that probably is due to Microsoft slipping in activation exploit killers into security updatesOct 27 13:21
DaemonFCbut it still is funny that Microsoft is indirectly admitting that about 94% of malware on Windows is perfectly capable of installing on a fully patched systemOct 27 13:22
DaemonFCsomeone mentioned that Ubuntu's xorg-edgers is still shipping the ddx drivers for old video cardsOct 27 13:24
DaemonFCthe reason for that is that even though Mesa no longer supports them, they can still use XAA or EXA and XRENDER 2d accelerationOct 27 13:25
DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2011/10/chrome-15-released-with-improved-start-page.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rssOct 27 13:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Chrome 15 released with... improved start page .::. Size~: 31.37 KBOct 27 13:29
DaemonFCproprietary Mac software is now in their Open Source blog?Oct 27 13:29
DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/10/righthaven-hit-with-largest-fine-yet-119488.arsOct 27 13:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Righthaven hit with largest fine yet: $119,488 .::. Size~: 32.37 KBOct 27 13:30
DaemonFCcopyright troll hit with huge finesOct 27 13:30
DaemonFCunfortunately US law lets them just declare that the company no longer exists and the debt goes away with nobody obligated to pay itOct 27 13:30
MinceRthat's Arse Technica for youOct 27 13:34
DaemonFCChromium is open source, Chrome is notOct 27 13:34
DaemonFCWhy must the media keep passing off Chrome as open source?Oct 27 13:35
DaemonFCare they just ignorant or is it intentional?Oct 27 13:36
DaemonFCNetscape never appeared in any open source sections on news/blog sites even though several versions of it were simply rebranded Mozilla software under a proprietary licenseOct 27 13:36
DaemonFCthe Chromium/Chrome situation is pretty much the sameOct 27 13:36
DaemonFCMinceR: I've never gotten the whole point of having a proprietary version of software that is basically a rebranding of open source software with added self-serving crap that no user would want anywayOct 27 13:39
DaemonFCWhy do people use Chrome?Oct 27 13:39
DaemonFCin fact, I find some of Google's services in Chromium/Chrome annoying and turn them offOct 27 13:40
DaemonFClike autocompletionOct 27 13:40
DaemonFCI'm not even sure how it's legal to switch all that spyware on in Chromium without presenting the user a licenseOct 27 13:42
DaemonFChow can you be subject to a license you were never shown for services that you weren't aware were on?Oct 27 13:42
MinceRwhat i don't get is why do people and organizations who hate "open source" use that term like it's a good thing?Oct 27 13:43
DaemonFCwhat term?Oct 27 13:44
DaemonFCthey misuse the term open source a lotOct 27 13:44
DaemonFCto be deliberately misleadingOct 27 13:44
schestowitz"It ought to be possible to appease both advanced users and beginners. #KDE 4.x does that quite well, but some would not agree. "Oct 27 13:56
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/homembit/status/129522452190601216?iid=am-156194753213197155339461392&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Oct 27 13:56
TechrightsBot-tr@homembit: @schestowitz I agree :)Oct 27 13:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Video: Global letter to the U.S. government on @WikiLeaks http://t.co/VevSrtsaOct 27 13:57
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84832489Oct 27 13:57
TechrightsBot-tr@agentsmith's status on Thursday, 27-Oct-11 11:23:21 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz That M$ Jack is a pain in the neck. He must be in M$´ s pockets.Oct 27 13:57
schestowitz"Doesn't Mint come with all the proprietary "value added" software already installed? Perhaps that's more a factor in the long-run. Although, Ubuntu has gotten "better" at making it easier to add popular proprietary software during installation... "Oct 27 13:57
schestowitzhttp://joindiaspora.com/posts/681769Oct 27 13:57
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schestowitzis it?Oct 27 13:57
schestowitzDaemonFC..?Oct 27 13:58
DaemonFCschestowitz? as far as I know, Linux mint comes with patent encumbered codecs (though they are open source) and FlashOct 27 14:03
DaemonFCbut not proprietary video driversOct 27 14:04
DaemonFCprobably not due to their nature as proprietary, but more because the open source ones are more likely to at least workOct 27 14:04
DaemonFCUbuntu's installer has a checkbox to isntall encumbered codecs and FlashOct 27 14:04
DaemonFCit is unchecked by default and not shown if you boot with free software only selectedOct 27 14:05
DaemonFChttp://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/10/26/2142219/protect-ip-renamed-to-the-e-parasite-actOct 27 14:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: PROTECT IP Renamed To the E-PARASITE Act - Slashdot .::. Size~: 175.07 KBOct 27 14:05
DaemonFCsharing information makes you a parasiteOct 27 14:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] !Fedora FAD China 2011 photos http://www.tiansworld.info/miao/?p=593&pageid=593 by @Tiansworld /cc: !MozillaOct 27 14:08
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schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2011/10/27/do-not-feed-the-trolls/Oct 27 14:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Feeding the Mentally Ill | Techrights .::. Size~: 89.94 KBOct 27 14:09
schestowitzMono boosters respond http://twitter.com/directhex/statuses/129507133912915968Oct 27 14:09
TechrightsBot-tr@directhex: Haven't posted any Roy links for a while. His current "Jobs was an LSD addict" shtick is boring. But http://t.co/QTxAbFTQ is a masterpieceOct 27 14:09
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/sitpcambridge/statuses/129517894752141312Oct 27 14:09
TechrightsBot-tr@sitpcambridge: A friend (@directhex) just pointed me to this. http://t.co/r7ZQH4SC An almost perfect example of the prejudice the mentally ill can face.Oct 27 14:09
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XFaCEschestowitz: Your latest "feeding the troll" post is very good.Oct 27 14:11
XFaCEI will heed the advice and no longer discuss he/she who must not be named. :)Oct 27 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] St. Pauls' priest, Giles Frazer, quits over plans to remove Occupy London http://t.co/JzRSBj8aOct 27 14:12
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schestowitzXFaCE: no need to discuss it in IRC eitherOct 27 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The computer you always wanted. [IMG] http://ur1.ca/5ivihOct 27 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Hmm @rms says he grew up in the middle of the world's biggest city - I thought he grew up on the #UpperWestSide of #Manhattan !puzzledOct 27 14:13
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XFaCEschestowitz: that's what I meant. :)Oct 27 14:13
schestowitzThe trolls (old and new) read it to wank over themselves being mentionedOct 27 14:13
schestowitzIt's disruption that's their goalOct 27 14:13
*jono (jono@ubuntu/member/jono) has joined #techrightsOct 27 14:14
schestowitzI have oms good posts cookingOct 27 14:14
schestowitzI got an interview with a former Microsoft employeeOct 27 14:14
schestowitzWho turned against this former employerOct 27 14:14
iophkI didn't know they could reform.Oct 27 14:14
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/forteller/statuses/129516710117117952Oct 27 14:15
TechrightsBot-tr@forteller: @schestowitz How is this worse than Google being the default search engine and start page for the normal version? I don't see the problemOct 27 14:15
schestowitzThe deal with Microsoft means that I cannot trust and support the Mozilla Foundation in the long term.Oct 27 14:15
XFaCEschestowitz: wait, what, come again?  Mozilla?Oct 27 14:16
schestowitzyeahOct 27 14:16
schestowitzdeal with MiceosoftOct 27 14:17
XFaCEyou're jokingOct 27 14:17
schestowitziophk: this one goes hard on themOct 27 14:17
schestowitzI think he also started some FOSS stuffOct 27 14:17
schestowitzmaybe .NET, I didn't checkOct 27 14:17
iophkBetter check, the reform might only be superficial.Oct 27 14:17
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/forteller/status/129517466689867776Oct 27 14:18
TechrightsBot-tr@forteller: @schestowitz But I do think that Firefox should ask you what SE and startpage you want on first startup, like Windows asks about browserOct 27 14:18
schestowitziophk: no, it's about Microsoft's tax evasionOct 27 14:18
schestowitzcheck out microsofttaxdodgeOct 27 14:18
schestowitzIt's not like Keith CurtisOct 27 14:19
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/84811710Oct 27 14:19
TechrightsBot-tr@Florian Mueller (fosspatents)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Oct-11 17:57:23 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Your friend Keith from the OIN unambiguously promoted software patents in a recent Business Insider interview.Oct 27 14:19
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/84811738Oct 27 14:19
TechrightsBot-tr@Florian Mueller (fosspatents)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Oct-11 17:59:14 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Here's the link: http://ur1.ca/5iiuiOct 27 14:19
TechrightsBot-trEmpty reply from server ( http://ur1.ca/5iiui )Oct 27 14:19
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/84811747Oct 27 14:19
TechrightsBot-tr@Florian Mueller (fosspatents)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Oct-11 17:59:41 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz It's a multi-page interview. Scroll down on the page I sent to the question of whether the patent system is broken. He says no.Oct 27 14:19
schestowitzWe should be more worried about Microsoft lobvbists calling themselves FOSS somethingOct 27 14:20
schestowitzAnd then trolling people like myselfOct 27 14:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] G-fox... before he got a new home http://is.gd/QBhLXl http://is.gd/rDlGi8 /cc: !MozillaOct 27 14:20
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schestowitzThose three are from yesterdayOct 27 14:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fedora FAD China 2011, me as Mozilla Rep (OSW Community Day) | Flickr - Photo Sharing! .::. Size~: 115.36 KBOct 27 14:20
XFaCEschestowitz: So what did Mozilla specifically do with this deal?Oct 27 14:20
schestowitzhe knows I ignore his teeetsOct 27 14:20
schestowitztweets :-)Oct 27 14:20
schestowitzhis teets tooOct 27 14:20
schestowitzXFaCE: they offer a Microsoftised version of MozillaOct 27 14:21
XFaCEschestowitz: link?Oct 27 14:21
schestowitzSo MS partners can be shown some Microsoft--approved FirefoxOct 27 14:21
schestowitz!google mozilla microsoft dealOct 27 14:21
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Mozilla, Microsoft debut Bing-ed Firefox - Computerworld | http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9221226/Mozilla_Microsoft_debut_Bing_ed_FirefoxOct 27 14:21
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Firefox “now with added Bing!” released by Mozilla, Microsoft ... | http://www.extremetech.com/internet/101851-firefox-now-with-added-bing-releasedOct 27 14:21
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Software Notebook: Microsoft, Mozilla: A symbol of cooperation ... | http://www.seattlepi.com/business/article/Software-Notebook-Microsoft-Mozilla-A-symbol-1190280.phpOct 27 14:21
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Mozilla and Opera Still Object to Microsoft's Deal with the ... | http://techrights.org/2009/11/08/mozilla-and-opera-dissatisfaction/Oct 27 14:21
schestowitzI'm done defending MozillaOct 27 14:21
schestowitzI'll still use Thunderbird, but not FirefoxOct 27 14:21
XFaCEschestowitz: I've got 4 letters: F-O-R-KOct 27 14:22
XFaCEIceweasel, Abrowser, IceCatOct 27 14:22
XFaCEOr even Seamonkey, that's independetOct 27 14:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Do you think publicly funded work should be open to the public? CC provides licenses that can make it happen. Donate: http://bit.ly/9BUJjnOct 27 14:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Donate to Creative Commons | Creative Commons .::. Size~: 36.77 KBOct 27 14:23
XFaCEschestowitz: Has an Microzilla article been made on a non-"mainstream" tech site yet?Oct 27 14:25
iophkThat was really, really dumb of Mozilla.  What makes them think that they will end up different than the others before them.  Stupid.Oct 27 14:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Will Mugabe's party be torn apart by Wikileaks? | BBC http://t.co/ESApiEeyOct 27 14:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Sorry about that last link. Didn't realise it was subs-only. Here is a direct link http://is.gd/FMfElPOct 27 14:27
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XFaCEschestowitz: iophk: Any unusual Mozilla executive/employee appointments lately?...Oct 27 14:27
iophkXFaCE: you mean like if they got a mole of their own?Oct 27 14:28
XFaCEexactlyOct 27 14:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Had a very interesting meeting with @sashel and @hochstenbach from #UGent lib. #opendata #openeducation http://ur1. ...Oct 27 14:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @magalielie: wie kan uiteindelijk, toch, op de laatste nipper, niet naar Bon Iver en wil zijn zijn t http://ur1. ...Oct 27 14:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @JozefColpaert: correction: anyone interested in research into #synchronouscollaborativewriting ?Oct 27 14:28
XFaCEschestowitz: iophk: The official Mozilla blog sources this suicide pact back to a Microzilla agreement in 2010.Oct 27 14:29
XFaCEhttp://blog.mozilla.com/blog/2010/10/06/refreshing-the-firefox-search-bar/Oct 27 14:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Refreshing the Firefox Search Bar | The Mozilla Blog .::. Size~: 54.84 KBOct 27 14:29
XFaCEhttp://blog.mozilla.com/blog/2011/10/26/offering-a-customized-firefox-experience-for-bing-users/Oct 27 14:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Offering a Customized Firefox Experience for Bing Users | The Mozilla Blog .::. Size~: 37.3 KBOct 27 14:29
XFaCE"Offering Firefox with Bing extends the partnership Mozilla and Microsoft announced last year." - The Mozilla BlogOct 27 14:30
iophkIf the goal was to shake up Google going into the upcoming re-negotiation of their contract, then the same point could have been made using DuckDuckGo.Oct 27 14:32
XFaCEiophk: Ah but that deal has far less moniesOct 27 14:32
MinceRi don't mind it that much yet, so long as it's not in the default versionOct 27 14:34
MinceRstill i wonder what this means about the future of ie is concerned :>Oct 27 14:34
XFaCEMinceR: Good point.  It is at this point practically just an ad site that can be easily ignored.Oct 27 14:34
iophkSo selling out for cheap.Oct 27 14:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Report from the Creative Commons board meeting in Warsaw: http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/29612Oct 27 14:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Report from the Creative Commons board meeting in Warsaw - Creative Commons .::. Size~: 22.03 KBOct 27 14:35
XFaCEMinceR: iophk: schestowitz: Let's see if Opera can hold out the high ground.Oct 27 14:35
MinceRopera isn't even free software :>Oct 27 14:35
XFaCEI knowOct 27 14:35
XFaCEBut it is competition.Oct 27 14:35
iophkOpera is competition but it is also a leader in Open Standards, which is equally important in the web.Oct 27 14:36
XFaCEIt, despite being proprietary, serves the interests of properly implemented web standardsOct 27 14:36
XFaCElol, I was was about to say that :POct 27 14:36
MinceRtrueOct 27 14:38
XFaCEMinceR: Doesn't mean you have to use it. :>Oct 27 14:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Bruhahahaha http://ur1.ca/5ivtrOct 27 14:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Excellent IEEE Spectrum article about Arduino. http://ur1.ca/5ivv0Oct 27 14:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Making of Arduino - IEEE Spectrum .::. Size~: 71.53 KBOct 27 14:42
schestowitzXFaCE: opera is proprietaryOct 27 14:43
schestowitzand it's not so hostile towards Microsoft, bar the antitrust complaintOct 27 14:43
schestowitzLie and some colleagues who use Linux are OKOct 27 14:43
schestowitzI don't know who replaced their CEO Jon after he had leftOct 27 14:43
XFaCEschestowitz: I meant only in the sense of provided unbiased competition, balance if it were.Oct 27 14:44
schestowitzTheir business is based on Scandinavian users and a proprietary mobile browser with uncertain futureOct 27 14:44
XFaCEschestowitz: Not as a viable Free software alternative.Oct 27 14:44
schestowitzit's viableOct 27 14:44
schestowitzit's very goodOct 27 14:44
schestowitzbut it's not libreOct 27 14:44
schestowitzso no distro (almost) would include it by defaultOct 27 14:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] 15 commit suicide every hour in India, Majority are married men :D #marriage #sucks http://ur1.ca/5ivwbOct 27 14:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LinuxCon 2011 Europe keynote videos http://ur1.ca/5ivwf #linuxOct 27 14:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 15 commit suicide every hour in India, majority victims married: Report .::. Size~: 62.48 KBOct 27 14:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DeviceGuru   » LinuxCon 2011 Europe keynote videos .::. Size~: 32.86 KBOct 27 14:45
schestowitzMany are starting to preinstall that Google toolbar masquerading as a Web browser (Chrome)Oct 27 14:45
schestowitzActually, I like this joke...Oct 27 14:45
schestowitzI should dent it...Oct 27 14:45
XFaCEschestowitz: What's the joke?Oct 27 14:45
schestowitzthat chrome is just a toolbarOct 27 14:47
schestowitzfor Google to push into users' faceOct 27 14:47
schestowitzthe browser is just some side dishOct 27 14:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google has a sniffy searchbar that is cross-platform and has some other 'stuff' around it. It's called Chrome.Oct 27 14:48
MinceRi like the multi-process ideaOct 27 14:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ZDNet has a new Mac/Linux FUD piece titled "Hackers port trojan from Linux to OS X" - it's an IRC flooder, hardly a th... http://b1t.it/LjHOct 27 14:50
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XFaCEschestowitz: I suppose that people could use SRWare Iron.Oct 27 14:50
XFaCE!google SRWARE ironOct 27 14:50
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - SRWare Iron - The Browser of the Future | http://www.srware.net/en/ironOct 27 14:50
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - SRWare Iron - The Browser of the Future | http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_download.phpOct 27 14:50
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Chrome vs Iron - SRWare Iron - The Browser of the Future | http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_chrome_vs_iron.phpOct 27 14:50
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - SRWare Iron - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SRWare_IronOct 27 14:50
schestowitzwhat for?Oct 27 14:50
schestowitzIt's like Chrome liteOct 27 14:50
DaemonFCSRWare Iron is a shamOct 27 14:50
schestowitzJust use something not from GoogleOct 27 14:50
DaemonFCusing Chromium and unchecking the Google crap gives you the same thingOct 27 14:51
schestowitzI heard bad things about this browserOct 27 14:51
XFaCEschestowitz: Still an improvement for chrome addictsOct 27 14:51
schestowitzalong with other firefox derivsOct 27 14:51
schestowitzThat claimed to be faster or more secureOct 27 14:51
schestowitzThat earn notoriety fastOct 27 14:51
MinceRIceweasel, IceCat?Oct 27 14:51
XFaCEschestowitz: Not Iceweasel or IceCat right?Oct 27 14:51
XFaCElolOct 27 14:51
MinceR:)Oct 27 14:51
schestowitzThey piggyback some heaps of code to make a quick buckOct 27 14:51
XFaCEschestowitz: iceweasel and icecat?Oct 27 14:51
schestowitzXFaCE: I use IceWeasel on another boxOct 27 14:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mac... Linux... Android... malware... BOO! Be scared. Install malware on your own system (enter root password)... #fudOct 27 14:52
schestowitzBut on here I use rekonq and konqueror right nowOct 27 14:52
schestowitzThey keep bookmarks in sync tooOct 27 14:52
XFaCEschestowitz: Midori is probably the best "chrome alternative" from a conception point of viewOct 27 14:52
MinceRi keep my bookmarks in ScuttleOct 27 14:52
MinceRso far i like Arora more than MidoriOct 27 14:52
XFaCEMinceR: QT.  Not great for GTK DEsOct 27 14:54
XFaCEMinceR: And Midori is an XFCE project sort of, for whatever it is worthOct 27 14:54
schestowitzI have just done some testingOct 27 14:55
XFaCEMinceR: hmmm... "The developer suspended his involvement in the project for several months due to uncertainty over a non-compete clause, but as of July 2011, he officially quit developing Arora.["Oct 27 14:55
schestowitzto ensure I can simultaneously edit the same bookmarks in both konq and rekonqOct 27 14:55
schestowitzand it works okOct 27 14:55
schestowitzas long as you don't make conflicting changes, which i think is impossible to do with one pointing/clicking device anywayOct 27 14:55
MinceRrekonq didn't render some page i viewed which appeared OK in other KHTML browsersOct 27 14:56
MinceRMidori liked to wait until Trash lets go of the audio deviceOct 27 14:56
DaemonFC[09:51] * DaemonFC actually bought a copy of DOOM 3Oct 27 14:56
DaemonFC[09:51] <DaemonFC> shame they make you buy the Windows version to grab the game files from to use the Linux installerOct 27 14:56
DaemonFC[09:51] <DaemonFC> that way they can't really tell who is buying a copy for Linux instead of WindowsOct 27 14:56
DaemonFC[09:52] <DaemonFC> most other id stuff is the sameOct 27 14:56
DaemonFC[09:53] <DaemonFC> That's why this "Linux sales being low" argument is not quantifiable as a reason to not have a same day RAGE port to LinuxOct 27 14:56
DaemonFC[09:53] <DaemonFC> if they can't even tell how many Linux users buy their game, then how do they justify such a statement?Oct 27 14:56
DaemonFC[09:54] <DaemonFC> John Carmack mentioned that once he had the Mac port of DOOM II done, he had the Linux port up and running within a dayOct 27 14:56
DaemonFC[09:54] <DaemonFC> it sounds like the effort is minimal even if sales are only increased by a few percentOct 27 14:56
DaemonFC[09:55] <DaemonFC> I think the reason they're really delaying RAGE for Linux is because OS X isn't good enough to run itOct 27 14:56
XFaCEMinceR: What does that mean exactly? :POct 27 14:56
DaemonFC[09:56] <DaemonFC> Linux and Windows both support OpenGL 4.2 if you use Nvidia or AMD hardware with the latest driversOct 27 14:56
DaemonFC[09:56] <DaemonFC> OS X does notOct 27 14:56
DaemonFCfrom another roomOct 27 14:56
DaemonFCthought it might be interesting hereOct 27 14:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Australia: Play ball, not Bolt in free speech debate - Assange | SMH http://t.co/yHcgeO9LOct 27 14:57
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MinceRXFaCE: it hanged until i found out what was the problem and killed that Trash processOct 27 14:57
XFaCEMinceR: What are you using Flash anyways? :POct 27 14:57
iophkhttp://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2395359,00.aspOct 27 14:57
MinceRfor those crappy websites that won't work without itOct 27 14:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 10 Questions for the Creator of CSS, Opera Software's Haakon Wium Lie | News & Opinion  | PCMag.com .::. Size~: 103 KBOct 27 14:57
schestowitzyoutube needs thatOct 27 14:57
iophkSpeaking of OperaOct 27 14:58
schestowitzsome Linux browsers don't do webm yetOct 27 14:58
MinceRi think YT might be able to work without TrashOct 27 14:58
MinceRbut i'm pretty sure the Comedy Central sites won'tOct 27 14:58
DaemonFC[09:57] <DaemonFC> maybe in 3-4 years when OS X catches up to Linux?Oct 27 14:58
DaemonFC[09:57] <DaemonFC> no, games don't have that long a shelf life :)Oct 27 14:58
DaemonFC[09:57] <DaemonFC> Crapple insists on writing their own video card drivers that are worse than the ones the hardware vendors make for other platformsOct 27 14:58
MinceRDaemonFC: Carmack apparently lost his spine a while agoOct 27 14:58
schestowitzMinceR: maybe they do broiwser http sniffingOct 27 14:58
MinceRDaemonFC: he went from "i'm doing opengl because it's actually open" to "ooh, directx, i'm all over it"Oct 27 14:59
schestowitzMinceR: he must have gotten a lot shorter thenOct 27 14:59
DaemonFCwell, RAGE uses OpenGLOct 27 14:59
MinceRschestowitz: Trash is worse than thatOct 27 14:59
DaemonFCeven on WindowsOct 27 14:59
MinceRTrash can be used to spy on you using microphones or webcamsOct 27 14:59
DaemonFCthe only port that can't use OpenGL for obvious reasons is Red Ring Of Death Box 360Oct 27 14:59
schestowitzMinceR: you can disable it (if you know how to) :>\Oct 27 15:00
MinceRhttps://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb/blog//2011-10/2011-10-21.htmlOct 27 15:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SMBlog -- 21 October 2011 .::. Size~: 8.51 KBOct 27 15:00
schestowitzDaemonFC: Redneck Ring of Doughnuts?Oct 27 15:00
DaemonFCschestowitz: The Red Ring Of Death issue went on from the 2005 release until the latest hardware revision mid 2010Oct 27 15:01
schestowitzBTW, I no longer hear about xbox 360... everOct 27 15:01
schestowitzis it dawn for it?Oct 27 15:01
DaemonFCthey tried blaming the customers for it at first until they could no longer hide it since it was happening to millions of peopleOct 27 15:01
schestowitzand burning down housesOct 27 15:01
schestowitz!google microsoft killed baby slatedOct 27 15:01
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Microsoft Xbox Kills Baby | Slated | http://slated.org/microsoft_kills_babyOct 27 15:01
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Homepage - Slate Magazine | http://www.slate.com/Oct 27 15:01
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Restore-DC-Catholicism: "40 Days Of Lies"? Seriously?? | http://restore-dc-catholicism.blogspot.com/2011/10/40-days-of-lies-seriously.htmlOct 27 15:01
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Microsoft working on Post-Courier Slate Devices | Good E-Reader ... | http://goodereader.com/blog/tablet-slates/microsoft-working-on-post-courier-slate-devices/Oct 27 15:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @AJEnglish: Op-ed: @ggreenwald argues #ows is a response to a justice system favouring elites http://t.co/slaBm1qn #p2Oct 27 15:02
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DaemonFCthat baby could have been the next HitlerOct 27 15:02
DaemonFC:)Oct 27 15:02
schestowitzor Torvalds... taking on Gates and BallmerOct 27 15:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] US House of Reps copyright bill creates national censorship, attacks on hosting services, YouTube http://identi.ca/url/56389820 !effOct 27 15:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SOPA: US House of Reps copyright bill proposes national censorship, attacks on hosting services, Twitter, YouTube - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 27.89 KBOct 27 15:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] In Bolivia, a Supervolcano Is Rising http://identi.ca/url/56389948 !scienceOct 27 15:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Canon of St Paul's resigns over plans to evict #OccupyLondon http://identi.ca/url/56389969Oct 27 15:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: In Bolivia, a Supervolcano Is Rising - Slashdot .::. Size~: 127.98 KBOct 27 15:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Canon of St Paul's resigns over plans to evict OccupyLondon  - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 26.45 KBOct 27 15:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When a cultist adheres to other cults [IMG] http://ur1.ca/5iw62Oct 27 15:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Adam and Eve [IMG] http://ur1.ca/5iw6dOct 27 15:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] What a cracker! Ballmer classic - http://ur1.ca/5iw78Oct 27 15:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ballmer Laughs at iPhone       - YouTube .::. Size~: 89.44 KBOct 27 15:08
schestowitz"I don't mean to sound rude when I say this but...You and one other person are the only people in my stream. (Despite having many more contacts.) Quantity over quality. I'd prefer you do one post outlining something than five posts which are one small piece of a critique. This isn't twitter. "Oct 27 15:09
schestowitzhttp://joindiaspora.com/posts/682363Oct 27 15:09
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schestowitzRight... good point, bad habit :-)Oct 27 15:09
iophkhttp://www.youtube.com/html5Oct 27 15:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. .::. Size~: 22.88 KBOct 27 15:09
schestowitziophk: it's not supported by browsers I use, except FirefoxOct 27 15:10
schestowitzwhich I rarely launch anymoreOct 27 15:10
schestowitzand...Oct 27 15:10
schestowitzif you log inOct 27 15:10
schestowitzFor the trialOct 27 15:10
schestowitzThen it gets confused when you use browsers that are not supportedOct 27 15:11
schestowitzSo Konq might be served something it cannot handle because of its youtube cookieOct 27 15:11
schestowitz"Dimitri, I had the same problem, but I've solved it by making a separate Aspect for people who post a lot. This way I can uncheck them temporarily when I want to read posts from people who post less (who otherwise get buried)." http://joindiaspora.com/posts/682363Oct 27 15:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] amazing how a little temporary caching of data to compress later calls can speed things up at times. in this case by an order of magnitude.Oct 27 15:12
iophkBallmer's like this guy: http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/Oct 27 15:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: We Love the Iraqi Information Minister .::. Size~: 56.65 KBOct 27 15:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] found via @afiestas: slide to unlock http://ur1.ca/5iuhl bwauahaahahahaOct 27 15:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Wie unabhängig ist eigentlich ein Gericht das grundgesetzwidrige Trojaner abnickt? #justsayinOct 27 15:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Life immitating art! http://ur1.ca/5iwa1Oct 27 15:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Real-Life 'Slumdog Millionaire': Poor Clerk Wins $1M On Indian Game Show : The Two-Way : NPR .::. Size~: 65.13 KBOct 27 15:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] For those who love @Lessig for his take on the root of all problems, here's his latest public talk http://www.youtube.c... http://b1t.it/LkuOct 27 15:18
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XFaCEyikes http://act.demandprogress.org/letter/sopa/?akid=984.349123.ickAvS&rd=1&t=2Oct 27 15:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: IT'S ALIVE: New Blacklist Bill Set To Crush The Internet! | Demand Progress .::. Size~: 13.83 KBOct 27 15:20
DaemonFCschestowitz: It would be nice if someone made a version of Chromium removing all the self-promoting Google crap and spywareOct 27 15:20
DaemonFCoutside of that it's a nice browserOct 27 15:20
DaemonFCI just don't like how SRWare went about itOct 27 15:20
DaemonFCI think the way they went about ad blocking is just stupid for instanceOct 27 15:21
MinceRwhat did they do?Oct 27 15:21
DaemonFCthe Chrome extensions do a better job and they don't need the user to update an "adblock.ini" manuallyOct 27 15:21
DaemonFCthe features they removed don't allow the user to turn them back onOct 27 15:21
DaemonFCsome of what they removed from the Chromium sources were just commentsOct 27 15:22
DaemonFCnot actual lines of codeOct 27 15:22
DaemonFCthey provided no explanation for thisOct 27 15:22
DaemonFCMinceR: I think if they made a version that had all those features disabled by default but opt-in it would be good, also it should come with Chrome Adblock or Adblock Plus for Chrome pre-installedOct 27 15:23
DaemonFCand a decent RSS reader extension would be niceOct 27 15:23
DaemonFCwhile I'm making a Christmas listOct 27 15:23
DaemonFC:)Oct 27 15:23
MinceR:)Oct 27 15:23
MinceRfor the RSS reader, i can recommend Tiny Tiny RSS :>Oct 27 15:23
DaemonFCand that autoscroll extensionOct 27 15:24
DaemonFCfor some reason Chrome is the only browser other than Kopnqueror that doesn't allow you to do thatOct 27 15:25
DaemonFCI know it's because of the X middle click paste nonsenseOct 27 15:25
MinceRi always disable autoscrollOct 27 15:25
DaemonFCbut Firefox and Opera manage autoscroll just dandyOct 27 15:25
MinceRand smooth scrollingOct 27 15:25
DaemonFCslow scrolling you menOct 27 15:25
DaemonFC*meanOct 27 15:25
DaemonFCthere's supposedly an X extension coming that has proper smooth scrolling implementedOct 27 15:26
DaemonFCapplications that do it on their own fail miserablyOct 27 15:26
MinceRyes, slow scrolling is a more accurate nameOct 27 15:27
MinceRit can't be implemented in a way that won't make it slow in some common use casesOct 27 15:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] ♻ @aseigo: found via @afiestas: slide to unlock http://ur1.ca/5iuhl bwauahaahahaha || xD !eolOct 27 15:28
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MinceRif i press down arrow, i want the viewport to be scrolled now, not after some fancy little animationOct 27 15:28
MinceRsame reason i got rid of desktop effects :>Oct 27 15:29
schestowitz"No Windows? That's right I forgot, Windows is malware! " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/682363Oct 27 15:29
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DaemonFChttp://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2395359,00.aspOct 27 15:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 10 Questions for the Creator of CSS, Opera Software's Haakon Wium Lie | News & Opinion  | PCMag.com .::. Size~: 103 KBOct 27 15:31
MinceRnice!Oct 27 15:32
DaemonFC5. What about Apple's Safari Reader?Oct 27 15:32
DaemonFCApple strips out the ads, and they don't page it. So although we use the same name for it in Opera, it's a quite different thing. What they do is they strip out all the noise and present you with a clean page. That serves what the users would like to have, but from a publisher's perspective it's more difficult to combine that with advertising.Oct 27 15:32
DaemonFCthat's what the content blocker is forOct 27 15:32
DaemonFCEXTERMINATE!!!Oct 27 15:32
MinceRi've always wanted a page/column-based view for the weOct 27 15:32
DaemonFCB-)Oct 27 15:32
MinceRbOct 27 15:32
DaemonFCMinceR: I'm not against itOct 27 15:32
MinceRunfortunately, this looks like it will be at the mercy of web designersOct 27 15:32
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DaemonFCpage/scroll who cares?Oct 27 15:32
MinceRDaemonFC: it would be nice to exploit the screen or window dimensions to display narrow-column text properlyOct 27 15:33
MinceRand once you have columns on the screen, you can't just scrollOct 27 15:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] #CPC expects citizens to break #C-11. http://identi.ca/url/56392101 #C-11 !Canada !piratepartyofcanada !dbdOct 27 15:33
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DaemonFCstrip out the "noise" and gives you a page that won't use all your printer ink on advertisementsOct 27 15:33
DaemonFCdamn, Apple did do something rightOct 27 15:33
DaemonFC:POct 27 15:33
MinceRbecause the text goes to the next column at the bottom of the windowOct 27 15:33
MinceRi'd do it with Space instead of swipes, thoughOct 27 15:35
MinceRor page up/page downOct 27 15:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 27/10/2011: Chrome 15 is Out, Mozilla Sells Out to Microsoft http://ur1.ca/5iwkq #techrightsOct 27 15:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] #CPC expects citizens to violate #C-11. http://identi.ca/url/56392101 #C-11 !Canada !piratepartyofcanada !dbd Why not fair DRM provisions?Oct 27 15:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 27/10/2011: Chrome 15 is Out, Mozilla Sells Out to Microsoft | Techrights .::. Size~: 110.61 KBOct 27 15:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Hmm. M$ reverting to their Bad Behaviour again - http://ur1.ca/5irx4Oct 27 15:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Analysis: With Antitrust Decree Gone, Microsoft Again Tying Browser Tightly To Windows .::. Size~: 48.34 KBOct 27 15:38
XFaCEhttp://www.crn.com/news/applications-os/231901699/analysis-with-antitrust-decree-gone-microsoft-again-tying-browser-tightly-to-windows.htm;jsessionid=HdY8I+riZpdlAT6LD4qd0A**.ecappj01Oct 27 15:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Analysis: With Antitrust Decree Gone, Microsoft Again Tying Browser Tightly To Windows .::. Size~: 48.34 KBOct 27 15:39
XFaCEerr not newsOct 27 15:39
XFaCEIE hasn't been "officially" removable since, well foreverOct 27 15:39
DaemonFCWindows 95 OEM Service Release 2.5Oct 27 15:40
XFaCEM$ never provided uninstallation supportOct 27 15:40
DaemonFCbut at retail, Windows 98Oct 27 15:40
MinceRthey were forced to provide boxed versions of winblows without IE in the EU, but no restrictions on priceOct 27 15:41
MinceRso they cost the same as the ones with IEOct 27 15:41
MinceRiircOct 27 15:41
XFaCEDaemonFC: Nope, 95C defaulted to IE3 when IE4 wasn't installedOct 27 15:41
XFaCEMinceR: DaemonFC: 98 never had IE removabilityOct 27 15:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] International Open Data Hackathon. Let's form a Singapore team and do magic! http://ur1.ca/5iwnrOct 27 15:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: International open data hackathon 2011: Better tools, more data, bigger fun | opensource.com .::. Size~: 51.16 KBOct 27 15:42
XFaCEYou are thinking of XPN, which removed Windows Media Player, and the canceled Windows 7e, which just hid IEOct 27 15:42
DaemonFCC came with IE 4 and shell updateOct 27 15:43
MinceRicOct 27 15:43
DaemonFCOSR 2.1 "B" came with IE 3 and no uninstaller. But, you could download IE 3, install it, then use the uninstaller it put in Add/RemoveOct 27 15:43
XFaCEDaemonFC: Both of which were not part of the main install.  So you could avoid IE4, but you couldn't avoid IE completely on face value aloneOct 27 15:44
DaemonFCor you could alter the installation files to not set up IE 3 in the first placeOct 27 15:44
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XFaCEDaemonFC: Not official, so that doesn't countOct 27 15:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Smashing Windows with Windows: Transparency, Design, and WikiLeaks | Fillip http://t.co/2407FcVYOct 27 15:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] If WSJ's pseudo-WikiLeaks copycat weren't already screwed, the three editors who oversaw it have left the paper http://t.co/E6aNL9O7Oct 27 15:52
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XFaCEhttps://daemonfc.wordpress.com/2011/10/25/vlc-now-has-a-java-dependency-i-give-up/Oct 27 15:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: VLC now has a Java dependency. I give up. « daemonfc .::. Size~: 36.18 KBOct 27 15:52
XFaCEDaemonFC: To be fair, I don't have a bluray playerOct 27 15:53
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XFaCEand besides, isn't bluray decryption still ongoing?Oct 27 15:53
XFaCEDaemonFC:  Does UMplayer play blurays?Oct 27 15:54
DaemonFCthey change the keys now and thenOct 27 15:54
DaemonFCno, no open source software plays commercially sold blu ray discsOct 27 15:54
XFaCEDaemonFC: Well there you goOct 27 15:54
XFaCEYou are complaint about VLC is a little dishonest.Oct 27 15:55
XFaCEVLC is trying it's best with what is available, and this is it.  It sounds more to me that you are just tired of VLC in general and are making this issue look like a huge deciding point when really it isn't.Oct 27 15:56
XFaCEI know you have Java installed, so that isn't really a big deal.Oct 27 15:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Sources will never trust corporate media as long as censorship of source material for hidden agendas continues. None promise to publish.Oct 27 15:57
XFaCEOh, and pulseaudio should have been more noted in yoru post.Oct 27 15:57
XFaCEMy rant is doneOct 27 15:57
XFaCEDaemonFC: So Pulseaudio is the "Best" sound server?Oct 27 15:57
DaemonFCif by best you mean only option in most casesOct 27 15:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] rediscovering the coolness of #REM "new adventures in hifi"Oct 27 15:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] introducing inqlude.org, a "cpan for qt" initiative: http://ur1.ca/5iwuaOct 27 15:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Blog of Cornelius: Introducing Inqlude, the Qt library archive .::. Size~: 61.43 KBOct 27 15:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @ahramonline: New Release: Shukrallah's 'Egypt, the Arabs, and the World http://t.co/BXv7ELc1 via @ahramonlineOct 27 16:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] ♺ @harishpillay: #International #OpenDataHackathon. Let's form a #Singapore team and do magic! http://ur1.ca/5iwnrOct 27 16:03
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XFaCEDaemonFC: What about ALSA, Jack, or OSS?Oct 27 16:05
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XFaCEhi ThistleWeb Oct 27 16:06
ThistleWebo/Oct 27 16:06
azalyni still just use cli mplayer.Oct 27 16:06
ThistleWebep 0 of crivins is finally out, I assume you noticedOct 27 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Updated: now it's easier to donate to the Julian Assange Defence Fund: http://t.co/BlTwdneSOct 27 16:07
azalynmplayer in my opinion is the most reliable media player on the planet.Oct 27 16:07
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XFaCEThistleWeb: Hmm, nothing came through the feeds...Oct 27 16:07
ThistleWebunseenstudio.co.ukOct 27 16:07
azalynit has never failed me in any way. where as vlc has failed me on all of the few occasions i've used it.Oct 27 16:07
azalynor most of themOct 27 16:07
ThistleWeblol, forgot to fix the podcatcher feed before launching last night, had to scramble around afterwardsOct 27 16:08
azalyni remember when i was trying to play some anime, and it was skipping to the beginning every time it reached a certain point.Oct 27 16:08
azalynjava sucks, but it's a necessary evil. there's a handful of apps out there that need it.Oct 27 16:10
azalynlike minecraft :OOct 27 16:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Dec 3rd for International Open Day Hackerthon - http://ur1.ca/5iwqgOct 27 16:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks has shed more light on the world’s most powerful factions than all media outlets combined - Greenwald | http://t.co/apWcMVwrOct 27 16:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] #shibbolethalert On !faifcast 0x1B @bkuhn pronounces #Qt as "cue tee"Oct 27 16:12
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XFaCEThistleWeb: You have nothing to do with "TuxJam" right?Oct 27 16:14
ThistleWebno, that's kevie'sOct 27 16:15
XFaCEThistleWeb: I love fake supported by statementsOct 27 16:15
ThistleWebcrivins is me and kevieOct 27 16:15
XFaCEThistleWeb: intro need more excessive bagpipe :DOct 27 16:15
XFaCEThistleWeb: Scottish accents are awesome.Oct 27 16:16
XFaCEThistleWeb: I have no problem understanding your accents.  Must be a Canadian thingOct 27 16:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Assange: End censorship lunacy! In France you can't deny genocide, in Turkey, you can't affirm it | SMH http://t.co/yHcgeO9LOct 27 16:22
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XFaCEmsb_: What was that voice chat program again?Oct 27 16:24
XFaCEoh yeah, IHUOct 27 16:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Former #Marine critically injured during protest in #Oakland http://ur1.ca/5ix4x #USMC #Iraq #vetOct 27 16:25
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XFaCEmsb_: I Still would like to try that sometimeOct 27 16:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] PATRIOT Act at 10: the 3 worst provisions for ordinary Americans http://identi.ca/url/56397724Oct 27 16:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Cdn MP: Don't worry about violating our new copyright law, because we probably won't catch you if you do http://identi.ca/url/56397768Oct 27 16:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] How To Move Unity Launcher To The Bottom Of The Screen [Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot] http://identi.ca/url/56397796Oct 27 16:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Extended Places Menu GNOME Shell Extension http://identi.ca/url/56398674Oct 27 16:47
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MinceR175912 < GM> How'd the hipster burn his hand?Oct 27 16:49
MinceR175918 < GM> He changed the lightbulb before it was cool.Oct 27 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Unity increasingly has the feel of being designed by people who don't want users to modify it #Ubuntu !LinuxOct 27 16:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] why is it that you seem to need to install a new app for even simple customisations, like moving the position of the launcher? #UbuntuOct 27 16:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] A dinosaur's teeth can be a map of its travels http://identi.ca/url/56399296 !scienceOct 27 16:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Great validation of The Open Source Way in Cancer Research - http://ur1.ca/5ixnmOct 27 16:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A dinosaur's teeth can be a map of its travels - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 27.18 KBOct 27 16:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK accused of stalling EU tar sands regulation - http://bit.ly/v5o6tk so what about those "green" aspirations, Dave...? #shamefulOct 27 16:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks banking blockade chronology released http://t.co/kOzFcpO0 (PDF: http://t.co/yPO0Vcer )Oct 27 16:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Another Court Makes #Righthaven Pay Up For Its Trolling Ways http://goo.gl/HiJKX I predict bankrupcy & a new "different" company risingOct 27 16:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] How a Famous ‘NYT’ Reporter Led the Media Cover-Up of Radiation Dangers | NTYX http://t.co/xasKh7d5Oct 27 17:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] hmmmm... I may need to build a new case http://ur1.ca/5ixzy #sip_and_clickOct 27 17:23
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DaemonFCOpera's CTO says that Google often introduces new services that break in non-Chrome browsersOct 27 17:32
DaemonFCbut often the only non-supported browser is Internet Explorer Oct 27 17:32
DaemonFCthat's why they made Chrome FrameOct 27 17:33
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MinceRthey also like to leave konqueror unsupportedOct 27 17:33
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MinceRor at least liked, back when i tried to use gfail with itOct 27 17:33
MinceR(before chrome, iirc)Oct 27 17:33
DaemonFCgmail works fineOct 27 17:34
DaemonFCeven in IE, as long as it's version 7 or newerOct 27 17:34
DaemonFCIE 6 messes it up pretty bad if you tell it to go ahead anywayOct 27 17:34
MinceReven the configuration interface?Oct 27 17:35
DaemonFCGoogle has a lot of shims to work around IE bugsOct 27 17:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] RT @ssweeny "Iraq War Veteran Scott Olsen Fought for Freedom (to Be Shot by Police)" http://ur1.ca/5ixk7 #owsOct 27 17:35
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DaemonFCit's the only reason Gmail worksOct 27 17:35
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DaemonFCbut they've totally given up trying to work around IE 6Oct 27 17:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @jezra oh look at that shit; a properly shortened URL when it is necessary and the *client* requests it.Oct 27 17:37
DaemonFCMinceR: Say whatever you like about Chrome, it's currently one of the most standards compliant browsers, if not #1Oct 27 17:37
DaemonFCfollowed in close second by OperaOct 27 17:37
DaemonFCthen SafariOct 27 17:38
DaemonFCthen FirefoxOct 27 17:38
DaemonFCthen Internet ExplorerOct 27 17:38
DaemonFC:)Oct 27 17:38
MinceRyeah, rightOct 27 17:38
DaemonFCdepends on if you count Opera 12 yet, if you do, Opera 12 and Chrome 17 are pretty much tiedOct 27 17:38
DaemonFCFirefox is more worried about supporting DirectX and Bing than working right on LinuxOct 27 17:39
DaemonFCschestowitz: has basically apologized for them so farOct 27 17:39
DaemonFCI guess Bing was the last strawOct 27 17:39
MinceRwell, i'm not having issues getting Firefox to work right on GNU/LinuxOct 27 17:39
MinceRso you must be doing something wrongOct 27 17:39
MinceR:)Oct 27 17:39
DaemonFCwell, you haven't compared it to the Windows versionOct 27 17:40
DaemonFCwhich is much fasterOct 27 17:40
DaemonFCit's much faster because Linux is no longer a priority to themOct 27 17:40
DaemonFCWindows got hardware acceleration a while back in Firefox, Linux Firefox still basically doesn'tOct 27 17:40
DaemonFCWindows builds got Profile Guided Optimization in version 3.0Oct 27 17:41
DaemonFCFirefox on Linux didn't have it until 3.6Oct 27 17:41
DaemonFCFirefox on Windows has a fast new vector graphics libraryOct 27 17:41
DaemonFCFirefox on Linux doesn'tOct 27 17:41
DaemonFCFirefox on Linux is a bad portOct 27 17:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] Fully agree. maybe we could start a campaign for this idea at http://www.ideasproject.com/community/en/n9 !n9 !meegoOct 27 17:42
DaemonFCnot a co-equalOct 27 17:42
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abeNd-orgneat http://royalsocietypublishing.org/searchOct 27 17:42
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DaemonFCnow on the other hand, Opera and Chrome seem to be nailing everything that Mozilla doesn't give a damn about on LinuxOct 27 17:42
riddic-ArmBoxdoesn't the Linux FF port have an option to enable hw acceleration that's just off by default? I haven't used it in a while :)Oct 27 17:42
DaemonFCthey're equally fast on Linux as they are on WindowsOct 27 17:43
DaemonFCand they have all the same featuresOct 27 17:43
MinceRstill preferable to the spyware with crippled ad blocking support that causes kernel panics and carries all sorts of duplicated librariesOct 27 17:43
DaemonFCriddic-ArmBox: If you do it will start leaking memory at about 100 MB per secondOct 27 17:43
MinceRor to the biggest sechole on osxOct 27 17:43
DaemonFCor just crashOct 27 17:43
DaemonFCunless you use proprietary NvidiaOct 27 17:43
MinceRor to the backdoor with a gui for windowsOct 27 17:43
riddic-ArmBoxugh .. ah wellOct 27 17:43
DaemonFCanyone who tries to improve Firefox gets a visit from Mozilla lawyers demanding they stop calling it FirefoxOct 27 17:44
DaemonFCanyone who slips in bad plugins that expose Firefox to security and stability problems without the users consent gets a special partnership and a search dealOct 27 17:44
DaemonFCwell, I say anyoneOct 27 17:45
DaemonFCthat first bit only applies if you're a nonprofit community distributionOct 27 17:45
DaemonFCUbuntu carries all the Debian patches and more and gets to call it FirefoxOct 27 17:46
MinceRdon't worry, they're taking over debianOct 27 17:46
MinceRi'm sure they'll make it ok to use the brand on debian as well :>Oct 27 17:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] E-PARASITES Bill: 'The End Of The Internet As We Know It' - http://bit.ly/tc98Ke utterly insane: has the US come to this? #censorshipOct 27 17:47
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_Goblinschestowitz: Im here if you are availableOct 27 19:08
koolhead17hi allOct 27 19:10
_GoblinHI there!Oct 27 19:11
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schestowitz_Goblin: yeah, I'm backOct 27 19:33
schestowitzlet me just get organisedOct 27 19:33
schestowitz_Goblin: have you had a chance to send that letterOct 27 19:33
DaemonFChttp://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2011/10/man-calls-cops-on-craigslist-hookup-after-wife-arrives/Oct 27 19:34
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_Goblinno...I'll skype and sort nowOct 27 19:34
DaemonFChttp://www.washingtonpost.com/national/inmate-who-killed-south-dakota-penitentiary-guard-in-failed-escape-attempt-sentenced-to-death/2011/10/27/gIQAvQFVMM_story.htmlOct 27 19:39
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schestowitz"its a custom with microsofts bing in it as the default search engine. I see this as no different than google as the default. Both corporations are heinous, use startingpage or duckduckgo. Are you taking the "Stalmann stance" and oppose it purely because FF is enabling users to use evil piece of software? "Oct 27 19:50
schestowitzhttp://joindiaspora.com/posts/681666Oct 27 19:50
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schestowitzMy decision was motivated by the fact that I no longer feel as though I can trust the Mozilla Foundation.Oct 27 19:52
schestowitz"How is that different from selling out to Google? They need money to keep going, I don't see the problem. If you don't like Bing, you still have the choice of search engine." http://joindiaspora.com/posts/682577Oct 27 19:53
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schestowitz"Hmmmm Google Chrome following my every move (I am a product) or Firefox keeping me in the shadows (with add-ons) Easiest choice I had to make on my way to G-Free. "Oct 27 19:53
schestowitz"Setting the Default id s very strong Power "Oct 27 19:54
schestowitzI am not defending Google. It's not the opposite of defending Microsoft.Oct 27 19:54
sebsebsebschestowitz: duckduckgo uses Bing I  read somewhere I ThinkOct 27 19:54
sebsebsebschestowitz: also what was that about Mozilla?Oct 27 19:54
schestowitzhttp://joindiaspora.com/posts/683703Oct 27 19:54
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schestowitzIt is, but I could never recall for sure if Rupert Murdoch got his grubby hands on it.Oct 27 19:55
schestowitz"well the Daily Express is rubbish anyway"Oct 27 19:56
schestowitz"That's the beauty of aspects." http://joindiaspora.com/posts/682363Oct 27 19:56
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schestowitzContext is this BTW http://identi.ca/notice/84719922Oct 27 19:57
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-11 18:33:34 UTC - Identi.ca: The Daily Express made an editorial decision today to incite Brits against Germans, spinning a remark about currency as promise of war.Oct 27 19:57
schestowitz"@Dr, and you trust Google more? Really? WOW!?!? "Oct 27 19:57
schestowitzNo, I trust KDE. I wouldn't touch Chrome with a bargepole.Oct 27 19:58
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/681666Oct 27 19:58
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schestowitzWow. My words about Firefox sure get misunderstoodOct 27 19:58
schestowitzsebsebseb: yes, DDG uses some MSOct 27 19:59
schestowitzBut I heard they created Texchright search and Ryan said they were trying to get rid of the B0ng dependenceOct 27 19:59
schestowitzHe said he spoke to one of the guys behind it, IIRCOct 27 19:59
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/MacNewsJunkie/statuses/129611350308687872Oct 27 20:08
TechrightsBot-tr@MacNewsJunkie: Microsoft Mole Killed Linux Projects and Fed Patent Trolls for Attacks ... http://t.co/pRluGcR9Oct 27 20:08
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schestowitz"The biggest difference in my mind, MS has never said they were not evil. They have been very upfront about where they stand, from the DOS 1.0 days. I personally have no problem with Firefox taking $ from MS, just as I have no problem with Gates & Buffet giving away their own money to charities."Oct 27 20:10
schestowitzhttp://joindiaspora.com/posts/682577Oct 27 20:10
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DaemonFCschestowitz: How do you feel about Mono integration being a Wine 1.4 goal?Oct 27 20:12
DaemonFC:)Oct 27 20:12
DaemonFCschestowitz: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAwNjYOct 27 20:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Skype Publishes New Linux APIs w/ Video Support .::. Size~: 16.62 KBOct 27 20:14
schestowitzDaemonFC: where?Oct 27 20:15
schestowitzDid Wine say this?Oct 27 20:15
DaemonFChttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAwNTkOct 27 20:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] The Wine 1.4 Release Criteria .::. Size~: 18.33 KBOct 27 20:15
DaemonFC"Mono package integration in a similar manner to the Mozilla Gecko integration in Wine,"Oct 27 20:15
schestowitzhmm..Oct 27 20:16
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84720929Oct 27 20:24
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-11 19:18:08 UTC - Identi.ca: Some people misunderstood my take on Firefox. I was not defending Google. I just think we should trust KDE more than Mozilla now.Oct 27 20:24
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DaemonFCschestowitz: yo dawg, I heard you liked Microsoft so I got you some Microsoft Firefox with Bing to go with your Microsoft Suse LinuxOct 27 20:34
DaemonFCB-)Oct 27 20:34
XFaCEschestowitz: did you ever see this? http://mrpouit.free.fr/pluxml/index.php?article86/how-not-to-do-a-community-survey-by-jono-baconOct 27 20:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How (not) to do a community survey, by Jono Bacon - /var/log/mrpouit .::. Size~: 17.47 KBOct 27 20:34
schestowitzFunny that you mention itOct 27 20:34
schestowitzI have a post about Microsoft Linux todayOct 27 20:34
schestowitzBut I can't find the time to publish itOct 27 20:34
schestowitzand we might record a new show in a momentOct 27 20:35
schestowitzNot sure yet...Oct 27 20:35
XFaCEschestowitz: I could publish it.  What needs to be done?Oct 27 20:35
schestowitzI also need to phone this girl I've been chatting to :-)Oct 27 20:35
schestowitzXFaCE: just proofreadingOct 27 20:35
XFaCELet's do it!Oct 27 20:35
schestowitzShould I put these in the wiki?Oct 27 20:35
schestowitzcoolOct 27 20:35
XFaCEscrew the wiki, just save it as a draft and I will copy/edit using my accountOct 27 20:36
XFaCEI'll say "Written by Schestowitz. Editted by XFaCE"Oct 27 20:36
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_SUSE_and_OpenSUSEOct 27 20:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft SUSE and OpenSUSE - Techrights .::. Size~: 14.73 KBOct 27 20:37
schestowitzBTWOct 27 20:37
schestowitzLLL means I have a link I'm gonna put itOct 27 20:37
schestowitzinOct 27 20:37
schestowitzI wrote this between situps todauyOct 27 20:37
XFaCEschestowitz: you are very multitaskableOct 27 20:37
schestowitztoo much soOct 27 20:37
XFaCESerious though, put it on Wordpress.Oct 27 20:37
XFaCEA lot easier for me to editOct 27 20:38
schestowitzTo the point where Adrian asks for the mattress and I don't pay attention cause I type this one post :-)Oct 27 20:38
schestowitzoh, right...Oct 27 20:38
schestowitzI forgotOct 27 20:38
schestowitzWell, let's make this the last one for he wikiOct 27 20:38
schestowitzSince it's already glued thereOct 27 20:38
XFaCEkOct 27 20:38
XFaCEschestowitz: There is no LLL...Oct 27 20:38
schestowitzIf you can add some sentences and stuffOct 27 20:38
schestowitzWithout removing mine...Oct 27 20:38
schestowitzThat'll make it cgood co-authored stuff with two minds put into itOct 27 20:39
schestowitzLike in Forbes Magazine :-)Oct 27 20:39
schestowitzXFaCE: ok, not in this one thenOct 27 20:39
schestowitzI have two more postsOct 27 20:39
schestowitzI got a ackage from Finladn todayOct 27 20:39
schestowitzI need to write a quick review of something..Oct 27 20:40
koolhead17schestowitz no one buys dell in china it seems :DOct 27 20:52
koolhead17WTF they are not selling the same in IndiaOct 27 20:52
koolhead17:)Oct 27 20:52
DaemonFCthey're too busy making themOct 27 20:53
schestowitz"Contrary to common conspiracy theory, there's no attempt to imitate the fruit company's interface. The actual attempt is to out-innovate them, and we're headed that way very quickly. " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/681783Oct 27 20:54
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schestowitzRight, but I looks with great scepticism at claims that Ubuntu copies OS X, excepting MarkS' remarks.Oct 27 20:54
schestowitzDaemonFC: great comeback lineOct 27 20:55
DaemonFCschestowitz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-EzVtxp3XwOct 27 20:55
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schestowitzDaemonFC: what to do about the wine-mono thing?Oct 27 20:56
schestowitzI think you make too much out of itOct 27 20:56
schestowitzJust some phrase from fearonixOct 27 20:56
schestowitz"I'm curious to hear how you feel "they" have damaged the project? And who are the "they"?" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/678145Oct 27 20:57
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schestowitzUbuntu "members" who used to work at Microsoft and now promote Mono/Microsoft in UbuntuOct 27 20:57
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DaemonFCit's funny how Ubuntu and Fedora "members" that are involved with Mono only package MonoOct 27 20:58
DaemonFCyou never see them do anything elseOct 27 20:58
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/682577Oct 27 20:58
schestowitz"Microsoft has an overall agenda which includes extinguishing Linux and FOSS. Google has no such agenda."Oct 27 20:58
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schestowitzDaemonFC: yupOct 27 20:58
schestowitzso DaemonFC, what to do then re wine?Oct 27 20:58
schestowitzI'm rushed todayOct 27 20:59
schestowitzSo I can't study this properlyOct 27 20:59
DaemonFCwell, it hasn't been merged yetOct 27 20:59
schestowitz"rekonq uses #webkit not #khtml. WebKit is a fork of khtml, but it isn’t the same." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/681702Oct 27 20:59
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DaemonFCnothing has ever stopped the user from installing Mono for Windows into WineOct 27 21:00
schestowitzYes, I was emphasising the fact that webkit is actually kde's work if you go back far enough.Oct 27 21:00
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84721503Oct 27 21:08
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-11 19:49:35 UTC - Identi.ca: Dell offers machines with Ubuntu Linux in 220 Chinese stores http://is.gd/1ZdYhB  #dell #ubuntu #gnu #linux #chinaOct 27 21:09
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MinceRso red china is the only place where they sell PCs preloaded with GNU/Linux?Oct 27 21:09
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84721766Oct 27 21:10
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-11 20:06:05 UTC - Identi.ca: Entropy Key http://ur1.ca/5j0hc interesting stuff, will review shortly. #EntropyKeyOct 27 21:10
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schestowitzMinceR: good questionOct 27 21:10
schestowitzjono is hereOct 27 21:10
schestowitzHe probably knows betterOct 27 21:10
MinceRthat doesn't mean he'll tell :>Oct 27 21:10
schestowitzCanonical is a private companyOct 27 21:10
schestowitzIt doesn't need to file stuff with info for shareholdersOct 27 21:11
schestowitzNovell is now private tooOct 27 21:11
schestowitzUnder AttachmateOct 27 21:11
schestowitzNovellmate could take Microsoft bribes now without reporting to anyoneOct 27 21:11
MinceRi know, but being public isn't any betterOct 27 21:13
MinceRwith the legal requirement to be as evil as possibleOct 27 21:13
jonowhat do you need to know?Oct 27 21:13
schestowitzWe wondered about where Dell sells UbuntuOct 27 21:15
schestowitzSome people in Ubuntu Forums asked/complainedOct 27 21:15
schestowitzAs they could not get hold of theseOct 27 21:15
jonoyou mean the roll out in China?Oct 27 21:15
schestowitzRoll like a trollOct 27 21:16
schestowitzThey roll ubuntu pcs down the bridge sidesOct 27 21:16
schestowitzoh, wait..Oct 27 21:16
schestowitzThat's goblins I thinkOct 27 21:16
jono:-)Oct 27 21:16
schestowitzsrly thoOct 27 21:17
schestowitzwould be nice to be able to give people answersOct 27 21:17
schestowitzI got emails about itOct 27 21:17
jonoabout what?Oct 27 21:17
schestowitzDellbuntu doesn't deluverOct 27 21:17
jonoI don't understand the questionsOct 27 21:17
jonoyou can get Ubuntu on some dell laptopsOct 27 21:18
jonoand we announced the stores across ChinaOct 27 21:18
jonothat will be selling Ubuntu machinesOct 27 21:18
DaemonFCjono is censoring the people for the peopleOct 27 21:18
jonololOct 27 21:18
jonothat's rightOct 27 21:18
jonoI am here to stomp down on #techrights folksOct 27 21:18
jonothat is more important than my work :-)Oct 27 21:18
MinceRs/more important than //Oct 27 21:19
MinceRFTFY ;)Oct 27 21:19
XFaCEschestowitz: Server error 503Oct 27 21:19
schestowitzYeah, I noticedOct 27 21:20
schestowitzLooking into  itOct 27 21:20
XFaCEschestowitz: Also, I need an article source for "Most of these other projects are not coordinated by people's on Microsoft payroll, either (indirectly)"Oct 27 21:23
XFaCEI've seen an article before, but I can't remember which oneOct 27 21:23
XFaCEafter that, she'll be doneOct 27 21:23
schestowitzI will add a link thereOct 27 21:23
XFaCEok, doing final sanity check from me, then saveOct 27 21:25
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XFaCEschestowitz: doneOct 27 21:32
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schestowitzthanks!Oct 27 21:37
schestowitzI'm finishing another one...Oct 27 21:37
schestowitz"@Roy: Yes, they do have that agenda. But why not take their money. There are smart people working at Mozilla. And I don't think MS (or Google) have any influence (@Juergen), or will corrupt Mozilla. I know in an ideal world a great project like Mozilla wouldnt have to worry about these things, but in reality they need money from someone. I prefer Mozilla with Bing or Google attached than no Mozilla at all. "Oct 27 21:38
schestowitzhttp://joindiaspora.com/posts/682577Oct 27 21:38
TechrightsBot-tr@: Oct 27 21:38
schestowitzI still get flak over my reamrks on MozillaOct 27 21:38
schestowitz"Understood. " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/681666Oct 27 21:39
TechrightsBot-tr@: Oct 27 21:39
schestowitz*I clarified my positionOct 27 21:39
schestowitzSo it's a bit better nowOct 27 21:39
schestowitzGOt dozens of messages about itOct 27 21:39
XFaCEschestowitz: may you should include the IRC discussion we had on the subject.  I think it was quite fruitfulOct 27 21:42
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schestowitzXFaCE: on SUSE?Oct 27 21:50
XFaCE schestowitz: No, MozillaOct 27 21:50
schestowitzI prefer not to bring this upOct 27 21:51
schestowitzit's upsetting people already.. in social networks I wrote tiOct 27 21:51
schestowitzMicrosoft Linux Marketing...Oct 27 21:52
schestowitzWorking on it right now,.Oct 27 21:53
schestowitz"Gold Microsoft certified partner Attachmate has new strategy for earning free labour, benefiting two proprietary software companies (Attachmate and Microsoft) under the guise of "open" and "community""Oct 27 21:53
XFaCEerr, that's not what I wroteOct 27 21:53
XFaCEor rather edittedOct 27 21:53
schestowitzyeah, I know..Oct 27 21:53
XFaCEschestowitz: I thought you were making another post on mozilla, based on the direction of the conversationOct 27 21:54
XFaCEschestowitz: What are you editting?Oct 27 21:55
schestowitzMarketing for Microsoft Linux is how I wrote itOct 27 21:56
schestowitzI just look at the diffsOct 27 21:56
schestowitzXFaCE: no, nothing about mozilla just yetOct 27 21:56
XFaCEschestowitz: ahOct 27 21:57
XFaCEschestowitz: what's the other post on then?Oct 27 21:58
schestowitzXFaCE: excellent stuffOct 27 22:02
schestowitzit's written very well nowOct 27 22:02
XFaCEschestowitz: Thanks. :)Oct 27 22:03
schestowitzI also published http://identi.ca/notice/84722666Oct 27 22:04
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-11 20:50:57 UTC - Identi.ca: Patents Roundup: Microsoft Patents PR, Red Hat/Groklaw’s Response, and Apple’s Slide to Unlock Thermonuclear WarOct 27 22:04
schestowitzFinal.. http://identi.ca/notice/84722979Oct 27 22:04
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-11 21:04:06 UTC - Identi.ca: Microsoft Linux Marketing http://ur1.ca/5j183 #suse #opensuse #attachmate #microsoftOct 27 22:04
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schestowitz"they could live from Flattr or individual donations and be independant.Google would gladly eliminate Mozilla if they could just to push Chrome.. " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/682577Oct 27 22:08
TechrightsBot-tr@: Oct 27 22:08
XFaCEschestowitz: oops, link formating mistakeOct 27 22:11
XFaCE"Microsoft funnels money into the remnants of the original project [http://techrights.org/2011/07/25/another-suse-soft-bribe/]"Oct 27 22:11
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 404 Not FoundOct 27 22:11
XFaCEand "distribution with the large number of employed engineers” [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opensuse]"Oct 27 22:12
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 403 ForbiddenOct 27 22:12
schestowitzOK, I'll change thatOct 27 22:12
XFaCEthey should be referencesOct 27 22:13
schestowitzFixedOct 27 22:13
schestowitzI had already added one of those links at the endOct 27 22:13
schestowitzI can look those up[ quickly, you don't have to search for themOct 27 22:14
schestowitzjust put LLLOct 27 22:14
schestowitzI remember post titlesOct 27 22:14
XFaCEkOct 27 22:14
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schestowitzI don't think we'll record today after all..Oct 27 22:16
schestowitzAnd we want to do a show with you soonOct 27 22:16
schestowitzI reckon something came up in Tim's householdOct 27 22:16
schestowitzhe just disappearedOct 27 22:16
XFaCEschestowitz: It will be quite awhile till I can do a showOct 27 22:16
XFaCEor any show reallyOct 27 22:16
XFaCEEarliest estimate I can think of December/JanuaryOct 27 22:17
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84723049Oct 27 22:17
TechrightsBot-tr@Sander (sandersch)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-11 21:08:28 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz you sure it was a guy?Oct 27 22:17
schestowitzHmm... is Kari the name of s female?Oct 27 22:17
schestowitzHmm... http://www.google.com/search?q=lari+laine&hl=en&client=ubuntu&hs=LgD&channel=ks&prmd=ivnso&source=lnms&tbm=isch&ei=ZsqpTsHtNdSh8gOK_uiZCw&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=2&ved=0CAwQ_AUoAQOct 27 22:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: lari laine - Google Search .::. Size~: 132.42 KBOct 27 22:18
schestowitzMaybe notOct 27 22:18
XFaCEhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundaram_KarivardhanOct 27 22:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sundaram Karivardhan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 42.46 KBOct 27 22:18
XFaCEhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kari_%28name%29Oct 27 22:18
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 403 ForbiddenOct 27 22:18
XFaCE"Kari is either a male or female given name."Oct 27 22:18
schestowitz"Lari Laine was the pseudonym used by Corrine Cole (born April 13, 1937 in Brentwood, California)"Oct 27 22:18
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XFaCEschestowitz: "Lari (given name), a Finnish masculine given name"Oct 27 22:19
XFaCEhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lari_%28disambiguation%29Oct 27 22:19
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 403 ForbiddenOct 27 22:19
schestowitzmaybe a common name in .fiOct 27 22:19
schestowitzhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/karilaineOct 27 22:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kari  Laine  | LinkedIn .::. Size~: 50.74 KBOct 27 22:19
schestowitzwe have some people from finland in the IRC channel nowOct 27 22:19
schestowitzI am not 100% sure then..Oct 27 22:21
XFaCEhmmOct 27 22:22
XFaCEbblOct 27 22:22
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schestowitzSeems like a very common name.. https://lkml.org/lkml/1999/4/26/25Oct 27 22:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LKML: "Kari Laine": Re: select()/socket has problems under 2.2.x. .::. Size~: 10.21 KBOct 27 22:39
schestowitzhttp://how-to.linuxcareer.com/alternatives-to-kde-and-gnome-on-linux-systemsOct 27 22:40
TechrightsBot-tr@: Oct 27 22:40
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84723919Oct 27 23:01
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-11 21:58:12 UTC - Identi.ca: $179 #Linux #tablet http://ur1.ca/5iw77 party time.Oct 27 23:01
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: $179 Android tablet features full-sized USB port, microSD slot - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 58.02 KBOct 27 23:01
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MinceRgnOct 27 23:15
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84724113Oct 27 23:16
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-11 22:06:00 UTC - Identi.ca: Is #Mozilla Seeking Salvation from Google with (gasp) Microsoft? http://is.gd/8EKfpG financial dependence on attacker vs FOSSOct 27 23:16
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Mozilla Seeking Salvation from Google with (gasp) Microsoft? - InternetNews. .::. Size~: 32.5 KBOct 27 23:16
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84724077Oct 27 23:16
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-11 22:04:19 UTC - Identi.ca: GNOME3 vs Unity on Ubuntu 11.10: my score is 6 - 9  http://is.gd/zxsAXS http://is.gd/zxsAXS #gnome #unityOct 27 23:16
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: GNOME3 vs Unity on Ubuntu 11.10: my score is 6 - 9 - Linux notes from DarkDuck .::. Size~: 129.97 KBOct 27 23:17
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: GNOME3 vs Unity on Ubuntu 11.10: my score is 6 - 9 - Linux notes from DarkDuck .::. Size~: 129.97 KBOct 27 23:17
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84724279Oct 27 23:17
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-11 22:15:48 UTC - Identi.ca: Red Hat Joins Facebook’s Open Compute Project To Drive Datacenter Efficiency http://is.gd/KAWxgv Gabriel in bed with Satan.Oct 27 23:17
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schestowitzMinceR: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/637499Oct 27 23:22
TechrightsBot-tr@: Oct 27 23:22
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/682865Oct 27 23:26
TechrightsBot-tr@: Oct 27 23:26
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/photos/149876Oct 27 23:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sign in .::. Size~: 6.16 KBOct 27 23:26
schestowitzOOXML: https://joindiaspora.com/photos/149829Oct 27 23:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sign in .::. Size~: 6.16 KBOct 27 23:27
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84724423Oct 27 23:30
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-11 22:28:12 UTC - Identi.ca: Everything is a copy [IMG] http://ur1.ca/5j27tOct 27 23:30
TechrightsBot-tr@: Oct 27 23:30
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84724406 http://identi.ca/notice/84724396Oct 27 23:30
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-11 22:25:23 UTC - Identi.ca: What media does sometimes [IMG] http://ur1.ca/5j274Oct 27 23:30
TechrightsBot-tr@: Oct 27 23:30
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-11 22:24:40 UTC - Identi.ca: "Organised crime" [IMG] http://ur1.ca/5j26vOct 27 23:30
TechrightsBot-tr@: Oct 27 23:30
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84724382 http://identi.ca/notice/84724351Oct 27 23:31
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-11 22:23:20 UTC - Identi.ca: NewsWeek coiver [IMG] http://ur1.ca/5j266 #usOct 27 23:31
TechrightsBot-tr@: Oct 27 23:31
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-11 22:19:53 UTC - Identi.ca: Received a lot of flak today for knee-jerk reaction to Firefox deal. Main point is, with money Microsoft buys influence... http://b1t.it/LvxOct 27 23:31
TechrightsBot-tr@: Oct 27 23:31
schestowitz"Troll !!!!!!!!" http://joindiaspora.com/posts/684701Oct 27 23:34
TechrightsBot-tr@: Oct 27 23:34
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