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| Hi ho. | Oct 29 00:05 | |
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| Guest81276 | how annoying | Oct 29 00:06 |
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| schestowitz | hi all | Oct 29 00:09 |
| Guest81276 | Yo, Roy. The site is having problems. I tried to make a comment and got a Varnish error. | Oct 29 00:10 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: hi | Oct 29 00:10 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Found out about this this morning: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UCADay | Oct 29 00:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: UCADay - Ubuntu Wiki .::. Size~: 11.38 KB | Oct 29 00:11 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Do they really need one of these? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UCADay no I don't think so | Oct 29 00:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: UCADay - Ubuntu Wiki .::. Size~: 11.38 KB | Oct 29 00:13 |
| schestowitz | Guest81276: it seems to be working now | Oct 29 00:14 |
| schestowitz | varnish cache acts a bit weird sometimes | Oct 29 00:15 |
| Guest81276 | yep, all better, thanks | Oct 29 00:15 |
| schestowitz | sometimes in the past I needed ton give apache a kick | Oct 29 00:15 |
| schestowitz | trolls pretended the site was down when in fact it was cache misconfig | Oct 29 00:15 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: what about it? | Oct 29 00:15 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: seems undeeded | Oct 29 00:16 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: seems a bit of a silly idea in a way | Oct 29 00:16 |
| sebsebseb | and it's mainly Debian, and upsterams, that make Ubuntu what it is | Oct 29 00:16 |
| Guest81276 | Debian had a community appreciation day. It was nice, for the most part. | Oct 29 00:18 |
| Guest81276 | I got to mail my favorite package maintainers and thank them. | Oct 29 00:18 |
| sebsebseb | Guest81276: right, but Ubuntu is the most hyped up distro, and so they don't really ned a day like this, where loads of their fans go thank you | Oct 29 00:20 |
| sebsebseb | Guest81276: plus without Debian and the actsul upstreams, Ubuntu woudn't be what it is | Oct 29 00:20 |
| sebsebseb | and Marks' money of course | Oct 29 00:20 |
| sebsebseb | Guest81276: a day where people go to the various upstreams such as Gnome or KDE, and go thank you, that would be great :D | Oct 29 00:21 |
| sebsebseb | without the upstreams, Linux distros don't exist basicalely | Oct 29 00:21 |
| Guest81276 | If it's all public, upstream can read it. The more thanks and good feelings people have, the better off we all are. | Oct 29 00:22 |
| sebsebseb | Guest81276: no it's a day where they go to Ubuntu stuff and do a thank you for their being Ubuntu | Oct 29 00:23 |
| sebsebseb | ,but that's aimed at Ubuntu people, not upstreams | Oct 29 00:23 |
| Guest81276 | We shall see what people praise. It's all good. | Oct 29 00:30 |
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| XFaCE | ThistleWeb hi | Oct 29 00:40 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Ok this is interesting it seems Ubuntu is losing it's popularity :D | Oct 29 00:40 |
| XFaCE | got some funny stuff | Oct 29 00:40 |
| XFaCE | http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Torrentfreak/~3/voc_ECIIQpo/ | Oct 29 00:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 29 00:41 |
| XFaCE | And Bieber speaks out for the SaveBieber campaign against the PROTECT totaliarinism copyright bill. http://www.bieberisright.org/ | Oct 29 00:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Justin Bieber is right - S. 978 and "SOPA" must be stopped! .::. Size~: 11.14 KB | Oct 29 00:41 |
| XFaCE | *And Bieber speaks out for the SaveBieber campaign against the PROTECT totalitarianism copyright bill. http://www.bieberisright.org/ | Oct 29 00:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Justin Bieber is right - S. 978 and "SOPA" must be stopped! .::. Size~: 11.14 KB | Oct 29 00:42 |
| XFaCE | I me be against the basic concept of what he is, but if he can be exploited for the good and the correct side (a bit of an oxymoron), then I can set my feelings aside. | Oct 29 00:42 |
| XFaCE | sebsebseb: Hmm, Ubuntu as a family, or just the Ubuntu distro? How are the derivatives doing? | Oct 29 00:43 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: Ubuntu itself | Oct 29 00:44 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: I just joiend the big Ubuntu channel about 45 minutes or so ago, not much going on there at all right now, which I found odd | Oct 29 00:44 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: so I looked at the log for the 28th and such | Oct 29 00:44 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: and it has the times when messages are and such, and yep at times for quite a while even, not much at all | Oct 29 00:44 |
| sebsebseb | which is odd | Oct 29 00:44 |
| XFaCE | sebsebseb: So you are saying that the lack of IRC activity indicates declining popularity? | Oct 29 00:44 |
| sebsebseb | since Ubuntu useaully had a message every few minutes in that big channel | Oct 29 00:44 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: bingo | Oct 29 00:44 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: good times this is what I wanted really | Oct 29 00:45 |
| sebsebseb | I want things to go more general again | Oct 29 00:45 |
| sebsebseb | not have Ubuntu sucking up most of the newbies, and keeping most of the expereinced users with Desktop Linux | Oct 29 00:46 |
| sebsebseb | instead have a few distros that are quite popular and with quite a lot of users :D | Oct 29 00:46 |
| XFaCE | sebsebseb: In other words, a perfectly competitive "economy" | Oct 29 00:50 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: :) | Oct 29 00:50 |
| XFaCE | sebsebseb: Well Arch has surprising popularity | Oct 29 00:50 |
| XFaCE | sebsebseb: I would estimate partially because of an anti-Ubuntu backlash | Oct 29 00:51 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: yep Arch Linux has taken quite a lot of the more expereinced Ubuntu users as well :D, and quite a few of the Ubuntu Community Members aren't happy about this heh heh :) | Oct 29 00:51 |
| sebsebseb | Why are some of the Arch people anti Ubuntu? Since Ubuntu is for newbies really? | Oct 29 00:52 |
| XFaCE | sebsebseb: Partially the newbie aspect, but I also think because Arch allows for greater control in "crafting" the installation. Ubuntu has become bloated (Xubuntu has also to an extent) and Arch offers arguably the best DE experience (XFCE is a notable combo) because it doesn't install extraneous dependencies by default | Oct 29 00:53 |
| XFaCE | That' | Oct 29 00:53 |
| XFaCE | s what I have read about in the XFCE forums | Oct 29 00:53 |
| XFaCE | sebsebseb: Arch allows for a true XFCE so to speak, uncoupled to GNOME libraries and programs (which Xubuntu still includes despite moving in the right direction) | Oct 29 00:54 |
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| XFaCE | NOOOOOOOOOOO! | Oct 29 01:06 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: We should cover more copyright issues | Oct 29 01:06 |
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| XFaCE | schestowitz: The Bill C-11 in Canada combined with Microsoft Lockdown is a clear threat to GNU+Linux and Free software in general | Oct 29 01:07 |
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| Guest81276 | That reminds me to read up on Michael Geist. He should be in my Techrights beat. | Oct 29 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | [20:20] <DaemonFC> I think the FTC should have the authority to fine companies who carry advertisements for products or services which are obviously fraudulent | Oct 29 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | [20:20] <DaemonFC> they'd wipe out the national debt with some of the crap that turns up on Google and Bing | Oct 29 01:21 |
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| _Goblin | Hello all.... | Oct 29 01:36 |
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| _Goblin | need to make a correction for the purposes of Brandon Lozza and his latest rant on COLA.... I'll make a supplemental followup post on TechBytes when we record it too.....Correction to follow..... | Oct 29 01:37 |
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| Guest81276 | yo, Goblin. | Oct 29 01:38 |
| _Goblin | TechBytes would like to correct any statement that Brandon Lozza believes in aliens.....they are not infact aliens and he has provided his theories ..... | Oct 29 01:38 |
| _Goblin | Brandon Lozza actually believes in Neanderthals and a Hive Mind Computer. | Oct 29 01:38 |
| _Goblin | Thats from him directly... | Oct 29 01:39 |
| _Goblin | So lets all forget about aliens and imagine hairy people with supercomputers... | Oct 29 01:39 |
| _Goblin | end of correction... I hope Brandon Lozza is now satisfied. | Oct 29 01:39 |
| _Goblin | oh and hello Guest81276 | Oct 29 01:40 |
| _Goblin | who has nothing to do with Hive minds and/or hairy people | Oct 29 01:41 |
| DaemonFC | Thew aliens are FreeMasons, they have a ritual of chest bursting | Oct 29 01:57 |
| DaemonFC | and kicking Brandon Lozza out of chatrooms | Oct 29 01:58 |
| _Goblin | ahh | Oct 29 01:58 |
| _Goblin | nope not aliens | Oct 29 01:58 |
| _Goblin | Brandon Lozza wanted to make that clear. | Oct 29 01:58 |
| _Goblin | Neanderthals with a hive mind computer (his words) | Oct 29 01:58 |
| _Goblin | theres a big difference DaemonFC | Oct 29 01:58 |
| _Goblin | one is green and says take me to your leader...the other is hairy and grunts alot | Oct 29 01:59 |
| _Goblin | I should really ask.....where these neanderthals are living? | Oct 29 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | my mom's ex husband being the example of the later | Oct 29 01:59 |
| _Goblin | I bet redmond. | Oct 29 01:59 |
| _Goblin | DaemonFC: was he? Did he have a hive mind computer? | Oct 29 02:00 |
| DaemonFC | no, he seemed to run on beer and grease sandwiches | Oct 29 02:00 |
| _Goblin | ah... | Oct 29 02:00 |
| DaemonFC | and cigarettes | Oct 29 02:00 |
| _Goblin | I think you are ok then | Oct 29 02:00 |
| DaemonFC | fascinating | Oct 29 02:00 |
| _Goblin | I'll tell you what...sometimes...just sometimes... COLA can be one of the most entertaining places on the net | Oct 29 02:01 |
| DaemonFC | no, creationwiki and conservapedia | Oct 29 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | always good for a laugh | Oct 29 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | until you remember that they are serious | Oct 29 02:07 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: Hmm turns out I was looking at a Lubuntu channel log earlier, so nope not what I said. | Oct 29 02:15 |
| sebsebseb | :( | Oct 29 02:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | lol? | Oct 29 02:17 |
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| Guest81276 | http://jeffhoogland.blogspot.com/2011/10/q-with-enlightenment-lead-developer.html | Oct 29 03:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Thoughts on Technology: Q&A with Enlightenment Lead Developer "Rasterman" .::. Size~: 70.43 KB | Oct 29 03:22 |
| Guest81276 | Enlightenment is funded, in part, by Samsung. They plan to make use of it for mobile devices. | Oct 29 03:22 |
| Guest81276 | "We are using them as part of a mobile platform that's basically a full Linux OS stack like your regular desktop linux distributions. It is being designed for mobile devices like smartphones, tablets, and god knows what else (that's all pretty obvious given that it's the mobile os r&d that is doing the work)." | Oct 29 03:23 |
| Guest81276 | Sounds Maemo like and that's the way to go. | Oct 29 03:23 |
| DaemonFC | http://i.imgur.com/M5mSr.jpg | Oct 29 03:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Oct 29 03:42 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/70wK3y/statuses/129954988637159424 | Oct 29 06:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @70wK3y: Apple Lost Respect | Techrights - http://t.co/xdYkBK3t Steve Jobs was a corporatist scum bag just like every other CEO. #apple #ste... | Oct 29 06:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 29 06:53 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/zoobab/statuses/129954957880332290 | Oct 29 06:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @zoobab: Techrights: Jay Walker Continues Quest To Sue The Internet Into Oblivion With Patents http://t.co/zTFYiGA8 | Oct 29 06:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 29 06:54 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/directhex/statuses/129856652479438848 | Oct 29 06:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @directhex: http://t.co/4aL7IZ8u - Isn't it odd how people do things relevant to their interests? I mean, that's totally weird! And suspicious! | Oct 29 06:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 29 06:54 |
| schestowitz | "I think Charles is right, pragmatism rules in the LibreOffice world. There's no indication of any trouble arising from Suse, in fact they have been very productive and essential members of the project. Nevertheless, expanding the community base can only further strengthen the project." | Oct 29 07:20 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/687268 | Oct 29 07:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 29 07:20 |
| schestowitz | The First Amendment https://joindiaspora.com/posts/690135 | Oct 29 07:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 29 07:42 |
| schestowitz | "Linux community is essential to the open source operating system's progress." http://is.gd/e5f5H6 | Oct 29 07:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Red hat promotes the community at linuxcon- The Inquirer .::. Size~: 65.11 KB | Oct 29 07:47 |
| schestowitz | 11/11/11 is coming soon. Once in a lifetime chance (since 00/00/00). Falls on a Friday. | Oct 29 07:58 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft's War on Reverse-Engineering http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAwNzI #skype | Oct 29 08:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] Skype Goes After Reverse-Engineering .::. Size~: 19.69 KB | Oct 29 08:05 |
| schestowitz | Gupta Case Targets Insider Culture http://is.gd/saYVxr common type of corruption. One down, many thousands to go... | Oct 29 08:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: U.S. Targets Insider Culture in Gupta Case - WSJ.com .::. Size~: 155.41 KB | Oct 29 08:10 |
| schestowitz | Former Goldman Sachs board member Rajat Gupta pleads not guilty, is freed on $10 million bail http://is.gd/l1KQ4w #jail not for the rich | Oct 29 08:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Former Goldman Sachs board member Rajat Gupta pleads not guilty, is freed on $10 million bail | NewsOK.com .::. Size~: 85.94 KB | Oct 29 08:13 |
| schestowitz | Former #GoldmanSachs director Rajat Gupta arrested http://is.gd/EaoUXe just did what his colleagues were doing | Oct 29 08:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Rajat Gupta; Raj Rajaratnam; Galleon Group; insider trading - latimes.com .::. Size~: 177.34 KB | Oct 29 08:14 |
| schestowitz | The notion of bail is, rich people receive a "get out of jail card". Broken system. Bill Gates was arrested at least two times. | Oct 29 08:17 |
| Guest81276 | heh. https://joindiaspora.com/posts/648706 | Oct 29 08:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 29 08:43 |
| Guest81276 | "Benjamin Horst – 2011-10-20 00:05:18 UTCUsing Diaspora on the iPad for the first time." | Oct 29 08:44 |
| Guest81276 | Suse good... expand base to include jail for users! | Oct 29 08:45 |
| Guest81276 | That kind of pragmatism is a step back for everyone. | Oct 29 08:46 |
| Guest81276 | Time for me to go to sleep. gn. | Oct 29 08:46 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/684921 | Oct 29 08:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 29 08:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 29 08:54 |
| schestowitz | I'm glad you pick through it and I can get all the meat and none of the fat over at Techrights. Thanks. | Oct 29 08:54 |
| schestowitz | I don't think they get free software. I followed them for a while but my impression was that there was a lot of non free software in the mix. Then there's stuff like this: | Oct 29 08:54 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Will-GPLv3-energize-Free-Software-or-marginalize-the-FSF/ | Oct 29 08:54 |
| schestowitz | It's harmful as all lies and propaganda is. The Microsoft press completely hid GNU and later GNU/Linux from me between the 1983 and 1996, though I would have loved to have had a compiler and later an alternative to DOS and Windows. I might have considered Byte a good magazine, but an advertising rag after 1985. I bumped into GNU once or twice but only really got a good demonstration from a person who had working systems at the LSU | Oct 29 08:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Will GPLv3 energize Free Software, or marginalize the FSF? - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 52.65 KB | Oct 29 08:54 |
| schestowitz | Nuclear Science center in 1997. Even after that, the Microsoft press guided my thoughts in the wrong direction for years. I can say for sure that I understood the importance of software freedom by 2003 when I became an associate member of the FSF, 20 years after the GNU Manifesto. The infoglomerate is so smothering that it's difficult to share even the simplest implications and principles with most people even today. The FUD works. | Oct 29 08:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 29 08:54 |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Firefox with Bing not suported by my system | Oct 29 09:40 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: just got onto your blog post about that, so that's what you were on about before | Oct 29 09:41 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: not read your blog post propelry yet about it though, since going to read the actsual news first | Oct 29 09:41 |
| schestowitz | "Fuck the police, indeed. Worldwide." http://joindiaspora.com/posts/692168 | Oct 29 11:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 29 11:04 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxm7mQonuHo&feature=youtube_gdata | Oct 29 11:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: NetBook Dual Tri Quad Boot: Windows7 Starter, Linux OpenSuse, Zorin Ubuntu, CentOs di Red Hat - YouTube .::. Size~: 85.01 KB | Oct 29 11:15 |
| iophk | Why the WIndows/OpenSuse video? Both are toxic. | Oct 29 11:21 |
| iophk | If the UEFI changes go through it will be the end of dual booting anyway. | Oct 29 11:22 |
| schestowitz | iophk: it showed up in "Novell" outube feed | Oct 29 11:23 |
| schestowitz | Notice the UEFI complaint. Novell is not in it.. or Attachmate. | Oct 29 11:24 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft won't complain about Microsoft... | Oct 29 11:24 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/10/27/dual-boot-ubuntu-11-10-windows-7-on-a-pc-with-2-hard-drives/ | Oct 29 11:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Dual-boot Ubuntu 11.10, Windows 7 on a PC with 2 hard drives .::. Size~: 116.48 KB | Oct 29 11:26 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2011-10-26-004-41-OP-MS-000 | Oct 29 11:34 |
| schestowitz | "package "tinfoil_hat" > 0.95 conflicts with package "MS_koolaid" > 0.5 " | Oct 29 11:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux Today - .::. Size~: 58.18 KB | Oct 29 11:34 |
| iophk | Do you have a good link to the UEFI complaint where Novell and Attachmate are missing? | Oct 29 11:42 |
| schestowitz | yes | Oct 29 11:42 |
| schestowitz | I'\ll prepare a post abou8t it | Oct 29 11:42 |
| schestowitz | I have it drafted, ref wise | Oct 29 11:43 |
| schestowitz | I'll type it up later | Oct 29 11:43 |
| iophk | UEFI seems to be meant to prevent dual boot. | Oct 29 11:43 |
| iophk | Dual boot is one of the more common ways of weaning from M$ | Oct 29 11:43 |
| schestowitz | Therefore it has to be suppressed or stopped | Oct 29 11:44 |
| schestowitz | And PR campaigns with Bott et al. will call those who stand in the way zealots and fanatics | Oct 29 11:44 |
| schestowitz | Only zealots, extermists and fanatics stand up for fair competition | Oct 29 11:45 |
| schestowitz | Normal people enjoy and cheer for crime | Oct 29 11:45 |
| iophk | That's about the sum of it. | Oct 29 11:45 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2011-10-27-002-41-OP-RH | Oct 29 11:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux Today - Red Vs. Green: SUSE Backs OpenStack, Red Hat Stands Alone .::. Size~: 60.59 KB | Oct 29 11:46 |
| schestowitz | "[ Thanks to Joe Brockmeier for this link. ] " | Oct 29 11:46 |
| schestowitz | Zonket is till batting for Novell | Oct 29 11:46 |
| schestowitz | I wrote about this yesterday | Oct 29 11:46 |
| schestowitz | His credibility is at stake | Oct 29 11:46 |
| schestowitz | He wrote this piece though https://www.linux.com/news/featured-blogs/196-zonker/499069-some-analysts-still-dont-get-it | Oct 29 11:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 29 11:48 |
| schestowitz | Good comments in http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2011-10-27-008-41-OS-OO | Oct 29 11:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux Today - Some Analysts Still Don't Get It .::. Size~: 62.46 KB | Oct 29 11:48 |
| schestowitz | more PR http://www.datamation.com/data-center/facebook-opens-up-open-compute.html | Oct 29 11:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Facebook Opens Up Open Compute - Datamation .::. Size~: 67.34 KB | Oct 29 11:49 |
| schestowitz | atb least red hat profits from it | Oct 29 11:49 |
| schestowitz | we'll see if the ms-wned part of fb can be enough pressure on fb to get suse | Oct 29 11:50 |
| schestowitz | Like Wal-Mart | Oct 29 11:50 |
| schestowitz | Wristwatches That Run #Linux http://deviceguru.com/android-smartwatch-smackdown/ #android | Oct 29 11:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: DeviceGuru » Android smartwatch smackdown! .::. Size~: 47.64 KB | Oct 29 11:56 |
| schestowitz | Linux busy growing in market segments aside from desktops https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/blog/desktops-final-linux-frontier | Oct 29 11:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Desktops - the final Linux frontier | www.socallinuxexpo.org .::. Size~: 20.83 KB | Oct 29 11:56 |
| iophk | Apropos non-desktop markets, do you count ebook readers as tablets or are they in a separate category? | Oct 29 11:57 |
| schestowitz | Not sure | Oct 29 12:00 |
| schestowitz | the 'taxonomy' of digital devices doesn't matter | Oct 29 12:00 |
| schestowitz | They are all computers | Oct 29 12:01 |
| schestowitz | They have cpu and ram | Oct 29 12:01 |
| schestowitz | washing machines that are smart work like this too | Oct 29 12:01 |
| schestowitz | although they don't need lInux | Oct 29 12:01 |
| schestowitz | Can use a small and compact, exhaustively tested RTOS | Oct 29 12:01 |
| schestowitz | I was at the City Centre this morning having breakfast when the crappy papers came | Oct 29 12:01 |
| schestowitz | Daily Express and Mirror | Oct 29 12:02 |
| schestowitz | Both crap | Oct 29 12:02 |
| iophk | uclinux? | Oct 29 12:02 |
| schestowitz | And they had some ebook ads | Oct 29 12:02 |
| schestowitz | I showed my friend and said they all run Linux | Oct 29 12:02 |
| schestowitz | Lots of people still pronnounce it "Lai nox" | Oct 29 12:02 |
| schestowitz | even cubefc1 | Oct 29 12:02 |
| schestowitz | iophk: I think not | Oct 29 12:02 |
| schestowitz | maybe some run it | Oct 29 12:02 |
| schestowitz | but they won't say | Oct 29 12:03 |
| iophk | qnx, then? | Oct 29 12:03 |
| schestowitz | would they need to link to the source code in their manual? | Oct 29 12:03 |
| iophk | not for qnx | Oct 29 12:03 |
| schestowitz | My washing macjhine (running as I speak) is a Becko and the manual says nothing about GPL | Oct 29 12:03 |
| iophk | Ok, it's probably not in that brand yet. :) | Oct 29 12:04 |
| schestowitz | It's also very simple, nothing digital in it, it works with dials and buttons... I think many of the new ones are dumb like that... some fridges that come with idiotic inventory apps run LInux | Oct 29 12:04 |
| schestowitz | I think Ballnux | Oct 29 12:04 |
| schestowitz | Electrolux | Oct 29 12:04 |
| schestowitz | qnx is the one I thought about | Oct 29 12:04 |
| schestowitz | I reckon not much has changed | Oct 29 12:05 |
| schestowitz | ALso in cooling syste, | Oct 29 12:05 |
| schestowitz | and if it's working and cheap, why reinvent the wheel and elevate risk? | Oct 29 12:05 |
| schestowitz | The Beko firdges caught on fire in many cases in the UK | Oct 29 12:05 |
| schestowitz | T heir brand is tarnished now | Oct 29 12:05 |
| schestowitz | They get associated with spntaneous fires, like iGadgets | Oct 29 12:06 |
| iophk | The xbox of fridges | Oct 29 12:06 |
| schestowitz | I suppose you heard about the hypePhone4Ass having battery defects | Oct 29 12:06 |
| schestowitz | Or rather, Apple doesn't know how to use them right | Oct 29 12:06 |
| schestowitz | And Apple worked on a fix or workaround | Oct 29 12:06 |
| iophk | Is that the second time there have been problems? | Oct 29 12:06 |
| schestowitz | Their empire is getting a bad name.. they can't keep up | Oct 29 12:06 |
| schestowitz | !google samsung shipments apple | Oct 29 12:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Samsung Passes Apple in Smartphone Shipments | PCWorld | http://www.pcworld.com/article/242795/samsung_passes_apple_in_smartphone_shipments.html | Oct 29 12:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - IDC: Samsung, ZTE see jump in mobile shipments, Apple slides to ... | http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/28/idc-samsung-zte-see-jump-in-mobile-shipments-apple-slides-to/ | Oct 29 12:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Samsung reportedly passes Apple in smartphone shipments ... | http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2011/10/samsung-passes-apple-in-smartphone-shipments.html | Oct 29 12:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Samsung Overtakes Apple In Smartphone Shipments - Latest ... | http://news.investors.com/Article/589692/201110281346/Samsung-phones-overtake-Apple.htm | Oct 29 12:07 |
| iophk | They'll implode now that Jobs is gone. Too big a vacuum and too much pressure to become a waste like HP is now. | Oct 29 12:07 |
| schestowitz | iophk: battery ones? | Oct 29 12:07 |
| iophk | Yes. IIRC. | Oct 29 12:07 |
| schestowitz | They had antennagate | Oct 29 12:07 |
| schestowitz | Vista 7 has a battery bug | Oct 29 12:07 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft tried to brush it under the rug | Oct 29 12:07 |
| iophk | http://www.tekgoblin.com/2011/02/17/iphone-4-battery-explodes-burns-hand-a-little-hot/ | Oct 29 12:08 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft Jo Microsoft tired to help them | Oct 29 12:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: iPhone 4 battery explodes, burns hand [Hot Potato] | TekGoblin .::. Size~: 45.67 KB | Oct 29 12:08 |
| schestowitz | !google windows 7 battery lg bios | Oct 29 12:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - A warning message is displayed immediately after you upgrade to ... | http://support.microsoft.com/kb/981200 | Oct 29 12:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Windows 7 and the battery error "consider replacing your battery ... | http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/w7itprohardware/thread/c6c043e6-eeb1-4e61-870d-896ca2f865d6 | Oct 29 12:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Fix Windows 7 LG Notebooks "Consider Replacing Your Battery ... | http://news.softpedia.com/news/Fix-Windows-7-LG-Notebooks-quot-Consider-Replacing-Your-Battery-quot-Error-Messages-177690.shtml | Oct 29 12:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Fix: Message Consider replacing your battery after Windows 7 ... | http://www.thewindowsclub.com/fixmessage-consider-replacing-your-battery-after-windows-7-upgrade | Oct 29 12:08 |
| schestowitz | iophk: what do you think of http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/linux-foundation-proposes-to-use-uefi-to-make-pcs-secure-and-free/9827 | Oct 29 12:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux Foundation proposes to use UEFI to make PCs secure and free | ZDNet .::. Size~: 132.2 KB | Oct 29 12:17 |
| schestowitz | is sjvn good enough as primary link to go with? | Oct 29 12:17 |
| schestowitz | LF was too cowardly in its statement | Oct 29 12:17 |
| schestowitz | playing the PC (politically correct) card | Oct 29 12:18 |
| schestowitz | Linux Journal endorses proprietary..:-( http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/google-plus | Oct 29 12:18 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84740393 | Oct 29 12:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Could not fetch identi.ca page | Oct 29 12:22 |
| iophk | schestowitz: there is the risk that the freedoms don't get added from the beginning and that it can be spun as support or partial support for the idea of UEFI-based "secure" boot. | Oct 29 12:23 |
| iophk | It won't be the user that is making the choice to get locked into Windows, that privilege will stay with the OEM. | Oct 29 12:24 |
| iophk | There is a great need for open firmware, but alas there are also a great many other things that also clamber for resources | Oct 29 12:25 |
| iophk | 'So in the end, the Linux Foundation and its allies conclude that “while some observers have expressed concerns that secure boot could be used to exclude open systems from the market … there is no need for things to be that way.' | Oct 29 12:26 |
| iophk | but being passive at this stage will likely ensure that things will "be that way" | Oct 29 12:26 |
| iophk | > is sjvn good enough as primary link to go with? | Oct 29 12:32 |
| iophk | 2:17 | Oct 29 12:32 |
| iophk | yes | Oct 29 12:32 |
| amarsh04 | schestowitz, I remember in 1991 our uni lecturers saying that the GNU project were developing a free Ada compiler | Oct 29 12:33 |
| schestowitz | free as in gratis (to lecturers)? | Oct 29 12:34 |
| schestowitz | or good for teaching code/final year projects? | Oct 29 12:34 |
| amarsh04 | free as in freedom rather than the pricey and deficient Meridian Ada compiler for the pc or the DEC Ada compiler for VAX/VMS | Oct 29 12:34 |
| schestowitz | but that's two things | Oct 29 12:35 |
| schestowitz | pricey | Oct 29 12:35 |
| schestowitz | free as in freedom | Oct 29 12:35 |
| schestowitz | these not the opposites | Oct 29 12:35 |
| schestowitz | like commercial and community/open source are not | Oct 29 12:36 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84740393 | Oct 29 12:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Marcio B. Jr. (mbjunior)'s status on Friday, 28-Oct-11 13:50:28 UTC - Identi.ca: UEFI Secure Boot (Chapter 27) states that only “approved” software will be able to boot in your computer. http://ur1.ca/5jbfe !fsf !linux | Oct 29 12:36 |
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| amarsh04 | no way could an individual afford a DEC Ada compiler, and the Meridian Ada compiler for pc was crippled | Oct 29 12:37 |
| amarsh04 | http://www.smartraveller.gov.au/zw-cgi/view/TravelBulletins/qantas_flights | Oct 29 12:38 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.abiresearch.com/press/3651-Android+Will+Seize+45%25+of+Smartphone+Market+by+2016,+Says+ABI+Research | Oct 29 12:38 |
| schestowitz | ABI wad right | Oct 29 12:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Android Will Seize 45% of Smartphone Market by 2016, Says ABI Research | Press Release | ABI Research .::. Size~: 22.01 KB | Oct 29 12:38 |
| schestowitz | "Hey Microsoft - here is a clue for you. I have an Adroid phone, and I love it, and I don't appreciate you threatening the manufacturer of my phone. Get the point? If you can't make a good phone, give it up, and go make something else. There are endless things you could invent with your billions without going around threatening to take away people's phones. Just leave the rest of us alone." | Oct 29 12:38 |
| schestowitz | http://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&sid=20111027090001718&title=Get%20the%20facts...&type=article&order=&hideanonymous=0&pid=941311#c941315 | Oct 29 12:38 |
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| schestowitz | O'Reilly Android Open Conference Oct. 9-11 [Sponsored by Microsoft ?!] | Oct 29 12:40 |
| schestowitz | http://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&sid=20110923082054613&title=O%27Reilly+Android+Open+Conference+Oct.+9-11+[Sponsored+by+Microsoft+%3F!]&type=article&order=&hideanonymous=0&pid=937060#c937096 | Oct 29 12:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Groklaw - Digging for Truth .::. Size~: 21.48 KB | Oct 29 12:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 29 12:41 |
| schestowitz | There is no evidence as far as I know that they make any money off of royalties on Android. Has any Android device manufacturer anywhere, at any time, stated that they are actually paying Microsoft for the use of Android? Until I see such evidence, I consider this nothing but a campaign of lies and FUD being deliberately spread by Microsoft. This campaign merits attention by the DOJ. Making such as statement as I have just quoted above | Oct 29 12:41 |
| schestowitz | is inadvertently supporting Microsoft's devious campaign, and not helpful. | Oct 29 12:41 |
| schestowitz | As to why Microsoft is sponsoring this event is no mystery, as everybody is aware by now that simply follows Microsoft's famous evangelism principles "Evangelism is War" laid down long ago by Jim Plamondon. | Oct 29 12:41 |
| schestowitz | More links to the Comes documents " Effective Evangelism" and "Pow er Evangelism" and "Relationship Evangelism". | Oct 29 12:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 29 12:41 |
| schestowitz | http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20110919044802339#c936677 | Oct 29 12:41 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20110725093146237#c928369 | Oct 29 12:43 |
| schestowitz | http://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&sid=20110630131412169&title=Microsoft%2C+preloading+and+MPs%2FMEPs&type=article&order=&hideanonymous=0&pid=925794#c925899 | Oct 29 12:43 |
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| schestowitz | Check out the resp9inse from the EU | Oct 29 12:43 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 29 12:44 |
| schestowitz | Answer given by Mr Almunia on behalf of the Commission | Oct 29 12:44 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft's behaviour could infringe EU competition rules if Microsoft were to implement anticompetitive agreements that foreclose competition or abuse a dominant position on the relevant market(s). | Oct 29 12:44 |
| schestowitz | It should be noted that Microsoft is not present on the PC hardware market. It is primarily the original equipment manufacturers (OEMs) who act as intermediaries on behalf of end users, and provide them with an ‘out-of-the-box’ product, by combining PC hardware, a client PC operating system and applications for which there is demand. | Oct 29 12:44 |
| schestowitz | The Commission is aware of the difficulties encountered by consumers who want to purchase a PC with a non-Microsoft operating system or without any operating system at all. At the moment, the Commission is, however, not in possession of evidence suggesting that this is the result of practices in violation of EU competition rules as laid down in Articles 101 and 102 of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union. | Oct 29 12:44 |
| schestowitz | The Commission will continue to monitor the developments in this field so as to ensure that competition and a level playing field are preserved amongst all market players. | Oct 29 12:44 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 29 12:44 |
| amarsh04 | preserved? | Oct 29 12:45 |
| schestowitz | http://lwn.net/Articles/464819/rss | Oct 29 12:47 |
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| schestowitz | amarsh04: see the context in the comment | Oct 29 12:47 |
| amarsh04 | twitter images used in Blackberry promotion: http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2011/s3350961.htm | Oct 29 12:47 |
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| amarsh04 | it sounds like the competition law isn't inclusive enough to cover oem agreements | Oct 29 12:51 |
| schestowitz | back room deals | Oct 29 12:51 |
| schestowitz | kickbacks | Oct 29 12:51 |
| schestowitz | Intel's Dirk Hohndel on 20 Years of Linux https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/500219:intels-dirk-hohndel-on-20-years-of-linux | Oct 29 12:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 29 12:55 |
| schestowitz | [video] ACTA: Get Informed & Take Action! http://www.laquadrature.net/en/video-acta-get-informed-take-action | Oct 29 13:13 |
| schestowitz | Sutor still with his iFetish http://www.sutor.com/c/2011/10/daily-links-for-10272011/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BobSutor+%28Bob+Sutor%29 | Oct 29 13:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [video] ACTA: Get Informed & Take Action! | La Quadrature du Net .::. Size~: 27.37 KB | Oct 29 13:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Daily links for 10/27/2011 | Blog | Bob Sutor .::. Size~: 40.25 KB | Oct 29 13:13 |
| schestowitz | Frac Sand Mining Companies Could Benefit From 'Polluters Over People Bill' http://www.prwatch.org/news/2011/10/11101/frac-sand-mining-companies-could-benefit-polluters-over-people-bill | Oct 29 13:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Frac Sand Mining Companies Could Benefit From 'Polluters Over People Bill' | Center for Media and Democracy .::. Size~: 54.11 KB | Oct 29 13:15 |
| schestowitz | #GoogleTV 2.0 Runs #Linux http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Google-TV-2-rolls-out/?kc=rss #android | Oct 29 13:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google TV 2.0 gains Honeycomb, Android Market - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 59.17 KB | Oct 29 13:25 |
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| schestowitz | bbl | Oct 29 14:03 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2011/10/29/links-29102011-google-tv-2-0-orion-0-3/ | Oct 29 14:03 |
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| schestowitz | "Like most recent TVs. \" http://joindiaspora.com/posts/693267 | Oct 29 16:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 29 16:56 |
| schestowitz | Attachmate/Novell/SUSE Do Not Complain About #Microsoft Abuses | Oct 29 17:50 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2011/10/29/attachmate-novell-suse-uefi/ | Oct 29 17:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Attachmate/Novell/SUSE Do Not Complain About Microsoft Abuses | Techrights .::. Size~: 93.12 KB | Oct 29 17:50 |
| schestowitz | Apple’s Products Are Far From Perfect | Oct 29 17:50 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2011/10/29/apple-batteries/ #apple | Oct 29 17:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Apple’s Products Are Far From Perfect | Techrights .::. Size~: 92.1 KB | Oct 29 17:50 |
| schestowitz | I will post more late at night | Oct 29 17:50 |
| schestowitz | All good so far,no issues for techrights running for a long time to come | Oct 29 17:50 |
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| schestowitz | zoobab: http://www.microturfs.org/ | Oct 29 19:23 |
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| schestowitz | it has been squatted | Oct 29 19:23 |
| schestowitz | used to be pieter's site | Oct 29 19:23 |
| zoobab | http://microturfs.wikidot.com/ | Oct 29 19:28 |
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| zoobab | have you seen the article software is hardware? | Oct 29 19:29 |
| zoobab | http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/intellectual-property/2011/10/29/should-software-be-patentable-thats-the-wrong-question-to-ask-40094152/2/ | Oct 29 19:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Should software be patentable? That's the wrong question to ask | Page 2 | Intellectual Property | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 60.07 KB | Oct 29 19:30 |
| schestowitz | I'm catching up with swpats news tomorrow | Oct 29 19:30 |
| schestowitz | rty Goetz, | Oct 29 19:30 |
| zoobab | http://twitter.com/#!/zoobab/status/130250167067738112 | Oct 29 19:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @zoobab: It is a fact that software and mental processes are interchangeable, thus mental processes are patentable http://t.co/AGtSUCDV #wrong | Oct 29 19:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 29 19:31 |
| schestowitz | thanks for the links | Oct 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | I will post about these issues soon | Oct 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | I lost track of cablegate, gates stuff, Novell... | Oct 29 19:35 |
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| DaemonFC | http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/10/29/1637219/aws-load-balancer-sends-2-million-netflix-api-reqs-to-wrong-customer | Oct 29 20:36 |
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| schestowitz | hey DaemonFC | Oct 29 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | hello | Oct 29 20:46 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Oct 29 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | http://news.softpedia.com/news/Introducing-Ubuntu-11-10-Without-Unity-228425.shtml | Oct 29 20:48 |
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| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: schestowitz Well that's quite pointless really I guess the above ^ | Oct 29 20:51 |
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| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: Gnome Shel is in the repos and so is Evolution | Oct 29 20:52 |
| schestowitz | hell yeah | Oct 29 20:52 |
| schestowitz | "unity" sounds so good | Oct 29 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | apparently if you use the remix, you won't be able to upgrade to 12.04 | Oct 29 20:53 |
| sebsebseb | seems a bit silly/pointless to start a version with stuff that can be instaleld from the repos | Oct 29 20:53 |
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| sebsebseb | Mageia 2 alpha 1 on 16th Nov, I think that's where I will be using Gnome 3.2 | Oct 29 20:55 |
| sebsebseb | propery | Oct 29 20:55 |
| schestowitz | 3.4 they could embrace | Oct 29 21:03 |
| schestowitz | for a release slated for next year | Oct 29 21:03 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: yes they are going to | Oct 29 21:03 |
| schestowitz | ok | Oct 29 21:03 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: that's why Mageia 2 is delayed by a month | Oct 29 21:03 |
| sebsebseb | however this alpha 1 | Oct 29 21:03 |
| sebsebseb | I asssume will have Gnome 3.2 in it | Oct 29 21:03 |
| sebsebseb | since they been putting whatever in cauldron | Oct 29 21:04 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: also really they should have gnome with the release cycles or pretty much for Gnome and KDE in the first place I think, but nevemrind | Oct 29 21:04 |
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| DaemonFC | heh, the mercenaries staying in Iraq won't be Americans | Oct 29 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | what a great security force | Oct 29 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | hire from a pool that's almost certainly going to have many US enemies in it | Oct 29 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | to protect US installations | Oct 29 21:26 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/oct/23/police-spy-tricked-lover-activist | Oct 29 21:33 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.aclu.org/blog/immigrants-rights/we-dont-need-warrant-were-ice | Oct 29 21:35 |
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| schestowitz | ICE ICE baby.. | Oct 29 21:37 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/retail/story/2011-10-29/walmart-hours/50998054/1 | Oct 29 21:51 |
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| schestowitz | USA Toady :-) | Oct 29 21:55 |
| schestowitz | About Walmart toadies :-) | Oct 29 21:55 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: would you work again as assn. man,. for the Waltons? | Oct 29 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | if it came to that | Oct 29 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Oct 29 21:55 |
| schestowitz | Poor wal-mart | Oct 29 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Reducing staff hours | Oct 29 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Must be major losses /sarcasm | Oct 29 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Maybe they just haven't found a way to outsource till jobs to China just yet | Oct 29 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | no, heir sales are fine, it's just that they get greedier every year | Oct 29 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Here in Sainsbury's there are now self-service tills | Oct 29 21:56 |
| schestowitz | You scan the stuff yourself to check out | Oct 29 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | every year they have to find something to cut to make shareholders happy | Oct 29 21:57 |
| schestowitz | like cachiers.. | Oct 29 21:57 |
| schestowitz | it's all robots interaction | Oct 29 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | those aren't new | Oct 29 21:57 |
| schestowitz | they're not | Oct 29 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | they've been around here for at least 10 years or so | Oct 29 21:57 |
| schestowitz | But there was hesitation in deploying them | Oct 29 21:57 |
| schestowitz | You have to trust the buyers, too | Oct 29 21:58 |
| schestowitz | So they would be selective about where these can be used | Oct 29 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | no cashier putting the watermelons on top of the potato chips | Oct 29 21:58 |
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| DaemonFC | and the soda on the bread? | Oct 29 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | I always use those if I can | Oct 29 21:58 |
| schestowitz | and the milk near the sugar | Oct 29 21:58 |
| schestowitz | (Which dampens the sugar, turning it into a BRICK!] | Oct 29 21:58 |
| schestowitz | but some chaiers know better than the customers what to separate how | Oct 29 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | that's what a hammer is for | Oct 29 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | find them at every day low prices in the hardware dept | Oct 29 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 29 21:59 |
| schestowitz | I tried a knife | Oct 29 21:59 |
| schestowitz | To cut the 1KG sugar cube | Oct 29 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | I always separate my groceries so that nothing gets crushed | Oct 29 21:59 |
| schestowitz | But it got very messy | Oct 29 22:00 |
| schestowitz | Then I ttied knife with hot water | Oct 29 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | they just toss them anywhere to keep their items per hour number up | Oct 29 22:00 |
| schestowitz | And it became syrup | Oct 29 22:00 |
| schestowitz | Don't try this at home :-) | Oct 29 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | so that the managers don't get bitchy | Oct 29 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I'm not hard to please, jsut don't crush my chips and bread | Oct 29 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | of course that's what they always do | Oct 29 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 29 22:05 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The Walmart meat department is nasty | Oct 29 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | everything is over processed and tough and chewy and stringy | Oct 29 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | I never buy meat there | Oct 29 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | I just go to the meat shop and pay a bit more | Oct 29 22:08 |
| schestowitz | maybe they inject water | Oct 29 22:11 |
| schestowitz | like 40% | Oct 29 22:11 |
| schestowitz | check the labels | Oct 29 22:11 |
| schestowitz | sugars and water | Oct 29 22:12 |
| schestowitz | glucose | Oct 29 22:12 |
| schestowitz | in the uk the big chaina have tricks for making the meat look better | Oct 29 22:13 |
| schestowitz | but be crap | Oct 29 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, and they gt to sell you a saline solution at meat prices | Oct 29 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | by weight | Oct 29 22:13 |
| schestowitz | +1 | Oct 29 22:13 |
| schestowitz | gram | Oct 29 22:13 |
| schestowitz | :-p | Oct 29 22:13 |
| schestowitz | Notice that identica is still bellyup | Oct 29 22:34 |
| schestowitz | Thus the lack of updates from the bot | Oct 29 22:35 |
| schestowitz | lt's try this again... | Oct 29 22:35 |
| schestowitz | *let's | Oct 29 22:35 |
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| schestowitz | hi Diablo-D3 | Oct 29 23:07 |
| schestowitz | do you know what's up in identica? | Oct 29 23:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | I just got up | Oct 29 23:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | whats wrong? | Oct 29 23:08 |
| schestowitz | For the past 2-3 days the API was not working | Oct 29 23:09 |
| schestowitz | for read access at least | Oct 29 23:09 |
| schestowitz | And the site was going up and down for a while | Oct 29 23:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | ahh, I havent been using the api | Oct 29 23:09 |
| schestowitz | I don't know what evan and his team do about this and when they expect it to act normal again | Oct 29 23:09 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: ok | Oct 29 23:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | gwibber is so fucking shitty I just set identica as an app tab in firefox | Oct 29 23:10 |
| schestowitz | "This infographic is misleading and incomplete. Facebook hands their information to Microsoft through data sharing agreements and Microsoft's reach is still much greater than Google's. To complete the comparison, you have to include all the companies sharing information and the information available to them. Matt Cutts of Google showed that Microsoft helped themselves to the search items for ordinary Windows users and the Windows EULA | Oct 29 23:29 |
| schestowitz | gives Microsoft the legal right to search, index and even delete your files at will. Newer versions of Windows do just that and establish encrypted communications back to Microsoft. All non free software can be abused this way, so anyone who uses non free software for Google, Facebook and other things should assume that Microsoft has it. This makes Google's access a small subset of Microsoft's, though we can have our doubts about | Oct 29 23:29 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft's technical ability to process things. The final thing that's missing from the graph is a comparison of moral outrages committed by the companies. Google's record is clean so far but Microsoft has proved itself malicious on a number of occasions." | Oct 29 23:29 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/693177 | Oct 29 23:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 29 23:29 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/692918 | Oct 29 23:30 |
| schestowitz | "The desktop market is growing, even here in Alabama. I have found people here who have a good grasp on the technical superiority of free software. This is not something I expected." | Oct 29 23:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 29 23:30 |
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| DaemonFC | We's gon find us some queers......and give them Ubuntu | Oct 29 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 29 23:52 |
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| schestowitz | I got 2 8 core servers running ubuntu going on overnight, producing data :-) | Oct 29 23:59 |
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