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schestowitz>> I'm not sure what the real role of the M$ team working with SambaNov 03 10:41
schestowitz>> is, but the developers should not lose sight of the whole pictureNov 03 10:41
schestowitz>> that is M$.  Just because one small department is helpful for oneNov 03 10:41
schestowitz>> group, for right now does not mean that the greater threat hasNov 03 10:41
schestowitz>> diminished or gone away.  In some ways it the threat is greaterNov 03 10:41
schestowitz>> because it gets the Samba team and others to let their guard down.Nov 03 10:41
schestowitz>> Nov 03 10:41
schestowitz> It's not unlike a vendor buying them a meal or beer for them, orNov 03 10:41
schestowitz> providing swag.  It's not done for their benefit.Nov 03 10:41
schestowitzOne of my former colleagues is a Samba developer. Are any of them tied with Microsoft? I know about Likewise, but Samba does not seem to like those Microsoft folks. I never asked Jeremy Allison about them.Nov 03 10:41
schestowitz> From "Microsoft contributes open-source code to Samba"Nov 03 11:20
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schestowitz> ?But,? Allison concluded, ?I want to be fair to theNov 03 11:20
schestowitz> guys who sent the patch, that?s another department inNov 03 11:20
schestowitz> Microsoft (the one who is suing people :-). These guysNov 03 11:20
schestowitz> are in the OSS-lab in Microsoft and they?re great!?Nov 03 11:20
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TechrightsBotTitle: Microsoft contributes open-source code to Samba | ZDNet .::. Size~: 130.25 KBNov 03 11:20
schestowitz> This is a little more advanced than simply buying someone off withNov 03 11:20
schestowitz> swag or free beer, but it's the same principle.  One rogue departmentNov 03 11:20
schestowitz> doesn't set policy for the whole beast.Nov 03 11:20
schestowitzMicrosoft also gave code to Mono (MS-PL-licensed). At the same time Microsoft asserted that it can sue over it.Nov 03 11:20
schestowitzMicrosoft gave to Linux code which makes Linux dependent on Windows. This week I met a company that uses it and the Linux Manager was very unhappy about it (the decision came 'from above').Nov 03 11:20
schestowitzMicrosoft is using EEE tactics to encircle its competition and devour it.Nov 03 11:20
schestowitz  "Do you really hate Microsoft right?:) The majority of your posts are anti-M$ :)" 03 12:05
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schestowitzWhen writing about threats to Linux, Microsoft will inevitably be mentioned a lot because of the things it does.Nov 03 12:05
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schestowitz"Exactly. It's hard to love GNU/linux, or free software in general, and not hate MS. They called GNU/linux "a cancer", not the other way around. And they're always trying to hurt it, instead of just competing. They don't exactly deserve "love". "Nov 03 12:31
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schestowitz"I used Windows and now i'm a full time Linux user but i don't hate M$ or Apple, they are just a part of the choices. Maybe i wasn't "hurt" until now and i'm not very informed about this topic. :)"Nov 03 12:31
schestowitzHate is such a strong word. I "hate" those companies as much as the zebra hates the tiger which chases it... difference, is it's in the tiger's nature. To Microsoft and Apple, being a predator doesn't need to be in their nature. But they are brutes.Nov 03 12:32
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