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| schestowitz | "Just a quick bunch of notes before I edit the wiki. Changes in Python may prove tricky for Zenoss, or so I've heard (server side). They are also an Open Core company, thus some features will be behind a sort of 'paywall' (over time it makes pricing unpredictable, too). On my sites I use Nagios, which is nice because we are also using it right now on xxxx's systems. AFAIK, OpenNMS is very adamant, idealogical and proud about | Nov 10 09:46 |
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| schestowitz | being truly GPL, i.e. withholding no features. I know one person there and they seem like a vibrant project. I don't know Zabbix well enough." | Nov 10 09:46 |
| schestowitz | [me] | Nov 10 09:46 |
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| schestowitz | > Hi, Roy, | Nov 10 16:24 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 10 16:24 |
| schestowitz | > I'm having trouble with IRC on Ubuntu right now. The latest upgrade | Nov 10 16:24 |
| schestowitz | > on Thunderbird for OS X broke Enigmail so no PGP on OS X. So for | Nov 10 16:24 |
| schestowitz | > right now I can't do both at the same time. Funny, but Pidgin worked | Nov 10 16:24 |
| schestowitz | > fine yesterday. | Nov 10 16:24 |
| schestowitz | Setting up PGP was always the most PITA for me, but usually I just grab the .ssh dir these days when migrating upgrading. In Thunderbird, I stay with 3.x. SSH is really scary to newbies and even advanced users can find it confusing. I actually wrote a .bashrc file that forces it to have the session alive... this has run through ~ for several years now. Very inelegant. | Nov 10 16:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes, i like gpg mail and upgrades are a pita. or moves to another system. | Nov 10 16:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | it rly begs for integration in T'bird. | Nov 10 16:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's too fragile | Nov 10 16:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | it has weird error modes, too | Nov 10 16:25 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: but if it gets easy, everyone will have privacy | Nov 10 16:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: LOL | Nov 10 16:25 |
| schestowitz | I am sometims cynical about it, thinking that it's left hard to achieve (ot not a feature in clients) due to some conpiracy like PATRIOT ACT | Nov 10 16:25 |
| schestowitz | Privary is a form of terrorism :-) | Nov 10 16:26 |
| schestowitz | It terrorises those in power | Nov 10 16:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes. | Nov 10 16:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: :D:D | Nov 10 16:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | "omg I cant spy on the proles" | Nov 10 16:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | well, we know what they are afraid of. | Nov 10 16:26 |
| schestowitz | esp. when it's in the minotiry | Nov 10 16:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | -> police brutality | Nov 10 16:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | is the face of the enemy | Nov 10 16:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | g20, ukuncut, ows | Nov 10 16:26 |
| schestowitz | When I send encrypted messages (2 this hour) I think, they must be mumbling, what's in there? | Nov 10 16:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | and every other past and future protest | Nov 10 16:27 |
| schestowitz | They got the subject line | Nov 10 16:27 |
| schestowitz | I could deliberately troll them with the subject line | Nov 10 16:27 |
| schestowitz | "the package in number 10" | Nov 10 16:27 |
| schestowitz | then the message will be about just having a beer somewhere :-) | Nov 10 16:27 |
| schestowitz | "the 1 ton of sodium" | Nov 10 16:27 |
| schestowitz | recipe for a nice chips delight :-) | Nov 10 16:28 |
| schestowitz | And they launch supercomputer to decipher that | Nov 10 16:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | LOL | Nov 10 16:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: do u use ssl to freenode? | Nov 10 16:28 |
| schestowitz | > Hi, Roy, | Nov 10 16:29 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 10 16:29 |
| schestowitz | > I'm having trouble with IRC on Ubuntu right now. The latest upgrade | Nov 10 16:29 |
| schestowitz | > on Thunderbird for OS X broke Enigmail so no PGP on OS X. So for | Nov 10 16:29 |
| schestowitz | > right now I can't do both at the same time. Funny, but Pidgin worked | Nov 10 16:29 |
| schestowitz | > fine yesterday. | Nov 10 16:29 |
| schestowitz | Setting up PGP was always the most PITA for me, but usually I just grab the .ssh dir these days when migrating upgrading. In Thunderbird, I stay with 3.x. SSH is really scary to newbies and even advanced users can find it confusing. I actually wrote a .bashrc file that forces it to have the session alive... this has run through ~ for several years now. Very inelegant. | Nov 10 16:29 |
| schestowitz | oops | Nov 10 16:29 |
| schestowitz | sorry | Nov 10 16:29 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/ikeramidas/statuses/134576500119830528 | Nov 10 16:29 |
| TechrightsSocial | @ikeramidas: I wonder if MS will come after my Twitter data http://t.co/xUVbovct | Nov 10 16:29 |
| TechrightsSocial | @: | Nov 10 16:29 |
| schestowitz | from some minutes ago | Nov 10 16:29 |
| schestowitz | hours maybe | Nov 10 16:29 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: the channels in freenode are never private | Nov 10 16:29 |
| qu1j0t3 | i know. | Nov 10 16:29 |
| schestowitz | freenode is subjected to U SAP AT RIOT act | Nov 10 16:29 |
| qu1j0t3 | there are still quite good reasons for using ssl. | Nov 10 16:29 |
| schestowitz | wikileaks doesn't use freenode | Nov 10 16:30 |
| schestowitz | neither does anonymous... AFAIK | Nov 10 16:30 |
| qu1j0t3 | fine, but you should use ssl. | Nov 10 16:30 |
| schestowitz | skype is broadcasting people's address books | Nov 10 16:30 |
| schestowitz | and pings IPs directly | Nov 10 16:31 |
| schestowitz | run something like "top"-themed tools for network traffic | Nov 10 16:31 |
| schestowitz | some people use opendns and google's dns | Nov 10 16:31 |
| schestowitz | which give them your address books | Nov 10 16:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | :) | Nov 10 16:32 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYQuvwQ4y-k&feature=related | Nov 10 19:52 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: A Priest mocks creationism - YouTube .::. Size~: 96.19 KB | Nov 10 19:52 |
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