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schestowitzLinks for the dayNov 24 00:10
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IG3ZhR_v2Q&feature=digest_monNov 24 00:10
TechrightsSocialTitle: PhDs Becoming Worthless in America       - YouTube .::. Size~: 114.79 KBNov 24 00:10
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-1TqPCy_BsNov 24 11:14
TechrightsSocialTitle: Bigoted Boy Scouts       - YouTube .::. Size~: 112.61 KBNov 24 11:14
schestowitz> It's quite believable, given that every "Linux market share" statisticNov 24 11:28
schestowitz> is based on browser stats cherry-picked from unpublished sources, whichNov 24 11:28
schestowitz> may well be largely Windows-centric sites, for all we know, thus biasingNov 24 11:28
schestowitz> and invalidating the outcome. Until the likes of Hitslink et al actuallyNov 24 11:28
schestowitz> reveal their mysterious sources and methodology, their "stats" areNov 24 11:28
schestowitz> basically worthless.Nov 24 11:28
schestowitzAnd funded by Apple and Microsoft (the clients).Nov 24 11:28
schestowitz> Then there's the fact that a large number of GNU/Linux deployments areNov 24 11:29
schestowitz> never used to "browse the Web" (e.g. servers), and thus will never countNov 24 11:29
schestowitz> towards those stats, regardless of whether or not the target sites areNov 24 11:29
schestowitz> Windows centric.Nov 24 11:29
schestowitz> Nov 24 11:29
schestowitz> And that's just x86 systems. Unlike Windows, Linux is Linux, no matterNov 24 11:29
schestowitz> what hardware its running on, and therefore the policy of segregatingNov 24 11:29
schestowitz> non-x86 Linux systems from the "desktop", for statistical purposes,Nov 24 11:29
schestowitz> further dilutes Linux's true market share, and biases the outcome inNov 24 11:29
schestowitz> favour of Windows.Nov 24 11:29
schestowitz> Nov 24 11:29
schestowitz> Then we have the way certain companies, including Microsoft, calculateNov 24 11:29
schestowitz> "market share", based on revenue, not seats. This leads people toNov 24 11:29
schestowitz> conclude, rather simplistically, that Windows is more widely used thanNov 24 11:29
schestowitz> it really is. Kinda like people assuming the iPhone is more ubiquitousNov 24 11:29
schestowitz> than Android, because Apple has a 52% "market" (i.e. revenue) share, butNov 24 11:29
schestowitz> this belies the fact iPhones are only owned by 4% of the market.Nov 24 11:29
schestowitz> Nov 24 11:29
schestowitz> Of course, companies care about such things, but consumers don't, or atNov 24 11:29
schestowitz> least they shouldn't, logically, since its of no benefit to them - quiteNov 24 11:29
schestowitz> the opposite in fact, since higher prices means they're getting lessNov 24 11:29
schestowitz> value.Nov 24 11:29
schestowitz> Nov 24 11:29
schestowitz> But the most compelling evidence that GNU/Linux has more than theNov 24 11:29
schestowitz> mythical "1%" market share comes from Microsoft itself. Ballmer quiteNov 24 11:29
schestowitz> emphatically stated that Linux is Microsoft's biggest competitor, andNov 24 11:29
schestowitz> even demonstrated it in a lovely pie chart:Nov 24 11:29
schestowitz> Nov 24 11:29
schestowitz> [quote]Nov 24 11:29
schestowitz> For a man who just got fined more than a billion dollars for antitrustNov 24 11:29
schestowitz> violations, Steve Ballmer is feeling plenty of competitive heat.Nov 24 11:29
schestowitz> Nov 24 11:29
schestowitz> ...Nov 24 11:29
schestowitz> Nov 24 11:29
oiaohmHmm this is really a long quote schestowitzNov 24 11:29
schestowitz> [Page 2]Nov 24 11:29
schestowitz> Nov 24 11:29
schestowitz> A couple of years ago you reiterated that IBM was Microsoft's biggestNov 24 11:29
schestowitz> competitor and you said not just on the business side, but overall. If INov 24 11:29
schestowitz> ask you who is Microsoft's biggest competitor now, who would it be?Nov 24 11:29
schestowitz> Ballmer: Open...Linux. I don't want to say open source. Linux, certainlyNov 24 11:29
schestowitz> have to go with that.Nov 24 11:30
schestowitz> [/quote]Nov 24 11:30
schestowitz> Nov 24 11:30
schestowitz> http://news.cnet.com/Feeling-the-heat-at-Microsoft/2008-1012_3-6232458.htmlNov 24 11:30
schestowitz> Nov 24 11:30
TechrightsSocialTitle: Feeling the heat at Microsoft - CNET News .::. Size~: 99.03 KBNov 24 11:30
schestowitz> [quote]Nov 24 11:30
schestowitz> Microsoft's CEO Steve Ballmer had some interesting things to sayNov 24 11:30
schestowitz> yesterday about which companies Microsoft sees as its competitors in theNov 24 11:30
schestowitz> client operating system space. You'd think Apple was their number oneNov 24 11:30
schestowitz> competitor - and you'd be wrong. Microsoft sees two other competitors asNov 24 11:30
schestowitz> their primary adversaries.Nov 24 11:30
schestowitz> Nov 24 11:30
schestowitz> ...Nov 24 11:30
schestowitz> Nov 24 11:30
schestowitz> Much more interesting is Microsoft's idea of Linux and Apple, AccordingNov 24 11:30
schestowitz> to Microsoft, Linux is a bigger threat to the company than Apple,Nov 24 11:30
schestowitz> placing Linux above Apple in the marketshare figure pie chart thing.Nov 24 11:30
schestowitz> [/quote]Nov 24 11:30
schestowitz> Nov 24 11:30
schestowitz> http://www.osnews.com/story/21035/Ballmer_Linux_Bigger_Competitor_than_AppleNov 24 11:30
TechrightsSocialTitle: Ballmer: Linux Bigger Competitor than Apple .::. Size~: 28.93 KBNov 24 11:30
schestowitz> Nov 24 11:30
schestowitz> As for Adobe, they've always been hopeless at multi-platform support. ItNov 24 11:30
schestowitz> took them *12 years* just to rebuild a *tiny-little plugin* for 64-bit,Nov 24 11:30
schestowitz> and even that was just an alpha. It took another 3 years to get to beta.Nov 24 11:30
schestowitz> So if Windows 8/ARM users expect to see their favourite "killa appz",Nov 24 11:30
schestowitz> Photoshop, with its vast sprawl of spaghetti code, on Microsoft'sNov 24 11:30
schestowitz> not-really-Windows platform any time soon, they're living in la-la land.Nov 24 11:30
schestowitz> Not that Adobe will really be missing much, considering that 60% ofNov 24 11:30
schestowitz> Photoshop users are "pirates", apparently.Nov 24 11:30
schestowitz> Nov 24 11:30
schestowitz> http://blog.epicedits.com/2008/03/28/60-of-photoshop-users-are-pirates/Nov 24 11:30
schestowitzThere are lots more of these. But repeated often enough the lie can seem credible.Nov 24 11:30
TechrightsSocialTitle: 60% of Photoshop Users are PIRATES! .::. Size~: 195.28 KBNov 24 11:30
oiaohmschestowitz:60 percent is optimisitcNov 24 11:34
oiaohmI remember been told off for blocking a photoshop class because the software was not legal.Nov 24 11:34
schestowitzMinceR: watch fox surround him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYnP2khss0M&feature=feedrec_grec_indexNov 24 13:51
TechrightsSocialTitle: Fox News: Jesus Slammed in High School Book       - YouTube .::. Size~: 95.38 KBNov 24 13:51
MinceRmehNov 24 13:57
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oRN0C5TPv0&feature=relatedNov 24 14:18
TechrightsSocialTitle: The Joke Ricky Gervais Wasn't Allowed To Tell       - YouTube .::. Size~: 97.57 KBNov 24 14:18
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r1F0Whz3tI&feature=relatedNov 24 14:23
TechrightsSocialTitle: Ricky Gervais makes scientology / Tom Cruise / John Travolta joke at 2011 Golden Globe Awards       - YouTube .::. Size~: 107.97 KBNov 24 14:23
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm1dMrjB4c8&feature=relatedNov 24 14:24
TechrightsSocialTitle: Jim Carrey discusses Scientology       - YouTube .::. Size~: 104.6 KBNov 24 14:24
schestowitzLOLNov 24 14:24
MinceRlolNov 24 14:32
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schestowitzthe jacuzzi broke today... had to call maintenance and they fixed it quicklyNov 24 18:54
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schestowitz[22:45] <_aaa> Roy... Who is Brendan T?Nov 24 23:29
schestowitz[22:45] <_aaa> seen him here beforeNov 24 23:29
schestowitz[22:57] <schestowitz> I think it's ziggyfish, nice chapNov 24 23:29
schestowitz[22:57] <_aaa> ah..... I had a bit of a rudeish comment from him a couple of months back on my siteNov 24 23:29
schestowitz[22:57] <_aaa> he never responded to my retortNov 24 23:29
schestowitz[22:58] <schestowitz> Maybe not the same person?Nov 24 23:29
schestowitz[22:58] <_aaa> I assumed it was lozza making up a slightly different nym so that if it was banned he would claim paranoia and if it was identified as him could claim not nym shiftingNov 24 23:30
schestowitz[22:59] <_aaa> it was Brendan_T and it was around the same time he entered the channel here.Nov 24 23:30
schestowitz[22:59] <schestowitz> brendan has been around for years... maybe since 2008Nov 24 23:30
schestowitz[22:59] <_aaa> ahh...Nov 24 23:30
schestowitz[22:59] <schestowitz> brandon is another storyNov 24 23:30
schestowitz[22:59] <_aaa> never noticed the handle in the channel beforeNov 24 23:30
schestowitz[22:59] <schestowitz> just checked, it must be him cause it's an Aussie IP.Nov 24 23:30
schestowitz[23:00] <_aaa> and TOR doesn't have servers it uses in AusNov 24 23:30
schestowitzEnder found a new platform for trolling...Nov 24 23:30
schestowitzbut he is being confused for being other peopleNov 24 23:30
schestowitzto wit:Nov 24 23:30
schestowitz[23:00] <schestowitz> Lozza will try to troll somehow, it's how he gets noticedNov 24 23:30
schestowitz[23:00] <_aaa> He's been less active in cola i seeNov 24 23:30
schestowitz[23:00] <_aaa> Brandon Loser.Nov 24 23:30
schestowitz[23:00] <schestowitz> you gave him attention there, I ignore]Nov 24 23:30
schestowitz[23:01] <schestowitz> he'll carry on until he getds ignoredNov 24 23:30
schestowitz[23:01] <_aaa> I wanted to show him up.  I think I did.Nov 24 23:30
schestowitz[23:01] <schestowitz> Like he was in identicaNov 24 23:30
schestowitz[23:01] <schestowitz> I toild my g/f that tooNov 24 23:30
schestowitz[23:01] <schestowitz> The trolling doesn't need you replying to itNov 24 23:30
schestowitz[23:01] <_aaa> :) You seeing someone?Nov 24 23:30
schestowitz[23:01] <_aaa> cool!#Nov 24 23:30
schestowitz[23:02] <schestowitz> The whole "freemason" thing for him just just a  dog whistle to draw attention withNov 24 23:30
schestowitz[23:02] <schestowitz> yeah, I can send you a photoNov 24 23:30
schestowitz[23:02] <_aaa> Cool!Nov 24 23:30
schestowitz[23:03] <schestowitz> sentNov 24 23:30
schestowitzNov 24 23:30
schestowitz[23:04] <_aaa> V.nice!Nov 24 23:30
schestowitz[23:04] <_aaa> Shares the same name as my sister!Nov 24 23:30
schestowitz[23:04] <_aaa> except she's spelt []Nov 24 23:30
schestowitz[23:04] <schestowitz> ah... same spelling.Nov 24 23:30
schestowitz[23:04] <schestowitz> OhNov 24 23:30
schestowitz[23:04] <schestowitz> yeah, got chaNov 24 23:30
schestowitz[23:04] <_aaa> whats she do for a living?Nov 24 23:30
schestowitz[23:05] <_aaa> shes certainly not a []Nov 24 23:30
schestowitz[23:05] <schestowitz> I'll tell you another time []Nov 24 23:31
schestowitz[23:05] <_aaa> :)Nov 24 23:31
schestowitzSo anywayNov 24 23:31
schestowitzBrandon is now using COLA to trollNov 24 23:31
schestowitzand he annoys on purposeNov 24 23:31
schestowitzbecause he lost people's attentionNov 24 23:31
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