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schestowitzBruce Byfield feeling trollish today (or maybe the editor), Headline "Is the Linux Desktop Dead?" ("are we there yet?!?!") #sighNov 02 00:01
schestowitz^^Nov 02 00:01
schestowitzno linkNov 02 00:01
schestowitzbut you can find it if you tryNov 02 00:01
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schestowitzFedora 16 - a Preview http://linuxinexile.blogspot.com/2011/10/looking-ahead-to-fedora-16.htmlNov 02 00:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux in Exile: Looking ahead to Fedora 16 .::. Size~: 69.66 KBNov 02 00:02
schestowitzFedora considers moving all binaries to /usr/bin/ http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Fedora-considers-moving-all-binaries-to-usr-bin-1369642.htmlNov 02 00:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fedora considers moving all binaries to /usr/bin/ - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 41.26 KBNov 02 00:03
DaemonFChttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/_18XkaPdQZu4/SJvqEFcKyuI/AAAAAAAAJ5g/8uIylgFS6XY/s400/Nov 02 00:07
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DaemonFChttp://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?64414-Mono-Banshee-Will-Still-Be-Loved-In-Ubuntu-12.04&p=236603#post236603Nov 02 00:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mono, Banshee Will Still Be Loved In Ubuntu 12.04 .::. Size~: 49.92 KBNov 02 00:09
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schestowitzhttp://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/news/2011/11/01/appcelerator-raises-15m.htmlNov 02 00:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Appcelerator raises $15M - Silicon Valley / San Jose Business Journal .::. Size~: 87.23 KBNov 02 00:34
schestowitzDaemonFC: I saw thatNov 02 00:34
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schestowitzThe OpenBSD 5.0 Release http://openbsd.org/50.html De Raadt and folks make a release todaNov 02 00:42
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XFaCEschestowitz: We should tell TYT that Bill Gates is a problemNov 02 01:48
XFaCEhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okQ1vVSy1y4Nov 02 01:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Corporation of London "pauses" action against #OccupyLondon http://identi.ca/url/56331070Nov 02 07:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Corporation of London "pauses" action against OccupyLondon - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 24.63 KBNov 02 07:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Anonymous vs. Zetas: is #OpCartel a flop, hoax, or honeypot? http://identi.ca/url/56331098Nov 02 07:11
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URLNov 02 07:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] St Paul's Cathedral drops eviction effort against #OccupyLondon; almighty Corporation of London plows ahead http://identi.ca/url/56331102Nov 02 07:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] On working with predators in finance http://identi.ca/url/56331141Nov 02 07:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: St Paul's Cathedral drops eviction effort against OccupyLondon; almighty Corporation of London plows ahead - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 29.19 KBNov 02 07:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: On working with predators in finance - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 26.71 KBNov 02 07:18
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/madcap_loon/statuses/131599214907101184Nov 02 08:00
TechrightsBot-tr@madcap_loon: @schestowitz thanks for the share. He makes some very good points. And the headline is a play on what's selling SEO wise. Nicely done.Nov 02 08:00
schestowitz'[I've been reading along on the fedora-devel mailing list, and, I must say, especially since all these folders are in the default path anyway, it makes a lot of sense. There are definite advantages to putting all the system binaries into one folder."Nov 02 08:01
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/719844Nov 02 08:01
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schestowitzFedora considers moving all binaries to /usr/binNov 02 08:01
schestowitz"I followed your posts on #identica ... am so glad your posting them here on Diaspora. Identi.ca has made some bad changes recently, at least for me, so, thanks for posting here."Nov 02 08:02
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/719499Nov 02 08:02
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schestowitzI think they have lost a lost of their community over the past month. It's quiet there.Nov 02 08:02
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/714302Nov 02 08:04
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schestowitz"Nov 02 08:04
schestowitzRuby itself is mostly written in C, so does this mean that C hackers can package their own modified versions?Nov 02 08:04
schestowitzI thought the Ruby license already permitted that.Nov 02 08:04
schestowitz"Nov 02 08:04
schestowitzOh, I didn't realise that.Nov 02 08:04
schestowitz"The bottle from 1899 looks like one you'd use to put cologne on." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/705323Nov 02 08:04
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/716339Nov 02 08:07
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schestowitzidentica is broken...Nov 02 08:07
schestowitz"Yeah it is a bit too often :("Nov 02 08:07
schestowitz"seems to me, that there is too much work to do for only one person..."Nov 02 08:07
schestowitz"That could well be it, though I think Evan does have some help, at least sometimes"Nov 02 08:07
schestowitz"especially since their xmpp transport ist down :/" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/687061Nov 02 08:09
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schestowitz"People aren't very understanding and supportive, either."Nov 02 08:09
schestowitzI try hard to wait patiently.Nov 02 08:09
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schestowitzIDG, as usual, helps smear RMS http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/stallman-parody-site-catches-stallmans-attentNov 02 08:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Buzzblog: Stallman parody site catches Stallman's attention .::. Size~: 95.9 KBNov 02 08:41
schestowitzMozilla puts Firefox on a memory diet http://is.gd/gypNF7 memory problems: forgot how Microsoft abused Firefox over the yearsNov 02 08:43
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schestowitzhttp://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/mobile-cloud-view/hp-needs-to-find-a-plan-and-stick-to-it/Nov 02 08:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: HP Needs to Find a Plan and Stick to It   - View From Above .::. Size~: 49.42 KBNov 02 08:54
schestowitz"Linux Hybrid Graphics Will Be A Mess For A While"Nov 02 08:58
schestowitzFearonix is again using strong wordsNov 02 08:58
schestowitzhttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAwOTANov 02 08:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Linux Hybrid Graphics Will Be A Mess For A While .::. Size~: 17.43 KBNov 02 08:58
schestowitzThere are more polite ways of putting itNov 02 08:59
schestowitz[if it's true at all]Nov 02 08:59
schestowitzhttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2121364/canonical-announces-plans-bring-ubuntu-smartphones-tablets-tvsNov 02 08:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Canonical announces plans to bring ubuntu to smartphones, tablets and tvs - The Inquirer .::. Size~: 64.96 KBNov 02 08:59
amarsh04my sb audigy 2zs sound card died today, so I'm using a card with a dodgy output and bidding on another card... wish someone still made a soundcard with an on-board wavetableNov 02 09:02
schestowitzGovernment call to "install free Linux software instead as part of an austerity measure." http://is.gd/Kmin4F   #portugal #linuxNov 02 09:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Portuguese government orders Open Sauce on older computers - Pain for Volesoft | TechEye .::. Size~: 18.76 KBNov 02 09:11
schestowitzMozilla puts Firefox on a memory diet http://is.gd/gypNF7 memory problems: forgot how Microsoft abused Firefox over the yearsNov 02 09:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mozilla puts Firefox on a memory diet | ExtremeTech .::. Size~: 43.18 KBNov 02 09:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Government call to "install free Linux software instead as part of an austerity measure." http://is.gd/Kmin4F #portugal #linuxNov 02 09:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Portuguese government orders Open Sauce on older computers - Pain for Volesoft | TechEye .::. Size~: 18.88 KBNov 02 09:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Just added digital restriction management to !fsfe 's wordlist #drm http://ur1.ca/5l8zj added Digitale Rechteminderung for German.Nov 02 09:15
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schestowitz“The PC has not changed as consumers and users have changed their habits” good for #linux and #androidNov 02 09:19
schestowitzSource for the last quote: http://is.gd/aAtjw4 (Shut Down: Does the PC have a future?)Nov 02 09:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Shut Down: Does the PC have a future? .::. Size~: 67.6 KBNov 02 09:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Sony Completely Buys Out Ericsson for $1.475 Billion http://ur1.ca/5l9apNov 02 09:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sony Completely Buys Out Ericsson for $1.475 Billion .::. Size~: 29.96 KBNov 02 09:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @ioerror: I hope that things go well for Julian today.Nov 02 09:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Wall Street Won’t Share the Wealth, But It Will Share the Code http://ur1.ca/5l9bs #owsNov 02 09:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wall Street Won't Share the Wealth, But It Will Share the Code | Wired Enterprise | Wired.com .::. Size~: 51.29 KBNov 02 09:40
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schestowitzoooh..Nov 02 09:50
schestowitzTRIdentica awakens are API restored?Nov 02 09:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ALTLinux 6.0 is Out http://ur1.ca/5l9j0 #russiaNov 02 09:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ALT Linux 6.0: Simply Linux and KDesktop .::. Size~: 9.23 KBNov 02 09:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] The Land of the Free (from jobs) ♻ @_tomash: what the fuck, usa, srsly? ur1.ca/5l9loNov 02 10:05
schestowitz#Alpine GNU/Linux 2.3.0 released http://alpinelinux.org/node/6841 #gnu #linuxNov 02 10:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Alpine 2.3.0 released | Alpine Linux .::. Size~: 11.65 KBNov 02 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] re: Judiciary website, this may have something to do with it: "HTTP Error 403.6 - Internet Information Services (IIS)" ah, Microsoft....Nov 02 10:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Mr Theologian - please meet the Streisand Effect! :) ur1.ca/5l9kg !atheismNov 02 10:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Shuttleworth Doesn't Understand Power Users — Or He Doesn't Want To http://ur1.ca/5lab0Nov 02 10:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux EverywhereNov 02 10:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux Everywhere http://is.gd/SrapPU #linuxNov 02 10:38
schestowitz#Fedora 16 Release One Week Away https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/501808:fedora-16-is-coming-with-big-changes #redhatNov 02 10:41
schestowitz#Doom 3 Source Code Is About Ready To Go http://is.gd/PVLqkI http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAwOTYNov 02 10:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Najciekawsze w "bydle-gate" jest, że @maciejowski_waw wydawał się bardzo sensownym człowiekiem, gdy robiliśmy WiOO na Warszawę ur1.ca/5ladsNov 02 10:43
-christel-[Global Notice] Hi all, one of our sponsors are experiencing some routing issues -- as a result we are missing a few servers, have a messed up rotation, no services and no web presence. Hopefully we'll return to some normality soon. Thank you for your patience and have a good day (or night, if you're Australian!)Nov 02 10:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Seems like Assange will have to go to Supreme Court... for now the court OK'd the extradition. :/Nov 02 10:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @rysiek Seems like Assange will have to go to Supreme Court... for now the court OK'd the extradition. :/Nov 02 10:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Website sez delivery today. Tracking site sez delivery tmrw (where I will be in Switzerland). The joy of ordering online.Nov 02 10:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Texas Judge Beats Disabled Daughter on Video - http://gaw.kr/rFZrNs assuming this is genuine, I hope this man gets what he deserves...Nov 02 10:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Jim Zemlin on "Linux desktop leadership"http://is.gd/sj4G1t #linuxNov 02 10:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux at Best Buy http://ur1.ca/5laiu #linux #webosNov 02 10:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "Mission accomplished" is what Assange's dark enemies are now saying. Wikileaks effectively dead. #justsayinNov 02 11:00
iophkhttp://edition.cnn.com/2011/11/02/world/europe/uk-wikileaks-assange/Nov 02 11:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @razhael @Asher_Wolf In #WikiLeaks extradition judgment, 1 important victory for #Assange: Judges say he is in fact a journalist. #wljulNov 02 11:03
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schestowitziophk: yes, mentioned via identica alreadyNov 02 11:03
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schestowitzidentica is fast for this type of stuffNov 02 11:03
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iophkIs Identica back up and running then?Nov 02 11:04
schestowitzYes, unless it f* up againNov 02 11:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @glynmoody @razhael @Asher_Wolf In #WikiLeaks extradition judgment, 1 important victory for #Assange: Judges say he is a journalistNov 02 11:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @glynmoody @razhael @Asher_Wolf In #WikiLeaks extradition judgment, 1 important victory for #Assange: Judges say he is a journalistNov 02 11:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] AFAICS sweden has still, after > 1yr, not produced any case against Assange. What are they doing all the time?Nov 02 11:10
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84799539Nov 02 11:13
TechrightsBot-tr@Bradley M. Kuhn (bkuhn)'s status on Monday, 31-Oct-11 13:40:25 UTC - Identi.ca: IMO people tend to forget that there are various stages of boot.  !FSF's position is that users should be able to replace BIOS w/ #corebootNov 02 11:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @morag: gaidhlig #NOTW legal chief told editor: ‘Position is very perilous’ in hacking case http://b1t.it/OhgNov 02 11:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @bkuhn: there are various stages of boot. #FSF's position is that users should be able to replace BIOS w/ #corebootNov 02 11:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Judge Savagely Beats His Daughter For Illegal Downloads http://goo.gl/ccClMNov 02 11:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @debian: DebConf12 Nicaragua dates confirmed - http://ur1.ca/5lar4Nov 02 11:15
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/84843610Nov 02 11:19
TechrightsBot-tr@gryps75 (gryps75)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Nov-11 09:34:28 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Strange article. "forced to migrate to Linux" Would the author write "forced to install Windows" in other case?Nov 02 11:19
iophkA lot of people initially were "forced to migrate" to WindowsNov 02 11:19
schestowitzyeahNov 02 11:19
iophkSome individuals put in a lot of effort to get users off other systems and to force them into Windows.  That happened in the 1990's Nov 02 11:21
iophkA lot of the early adopters were definitely *not* using Windows at the time.Nov 02 11:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Video: Judge Savagely Beats His Daughter For Illegal Downloads http://is.gd/ySuUTV #disturbing (with video)Nov 02 11:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Two White Papers on UEFI Secure Boot Published http://ur1.ca/5lavjNov 02 11:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] US Marshals turned loose to collect $63,720.80 from #Righthaven http://goo.gl/NUq6j rofl no luckNov 02 11:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Theologian Attempts #Censorship After Losing Public Debate http://ur1.ca/5laxrNov 02 11:30
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iophkhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/242928/iphone_4s_battery_woes_where_is_the_outrage.htmlNov 02 11:33
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iophkhttp://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/story/2011-11-01/iphone-4s-battery-life/51028730/1Nov 02 11:33
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iophkhttp://news.cnet.com/8301-27076_3-20128191-248/iphone-4s-battery-issue-reminiscent-of-antennagate/Nov 02 11:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Ultraviolence rules http://ur1.ca/5lb1f !football #ArgentinaNov 02 11:36
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schestowitzhttp://sarabannerman.blogspot.com/2011/11/us-exit-of-unesco-possible-major.htmlNov 02 11:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sara Bannerman: Possible Major Shakeup in International IP System after US withdrawal of funding from UNESCO .::. Size~: 63.1 KBNov 02 11:38
schestowitziophk: added, thanksNov 02 11:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] discovery of the day: #HeyBuddy shortens urls automatically \o/Nov 02 11:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Magic" is when people buy something which they know is defective http://is.gd/5RMBAd http://is.gd/SvZco9 http://is.gd/k7V6XE #appleNov 02 11:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Real Issue With Apple's 'Slide-To-Unlock' Patent: Double Patenting & Bogus Continuations - http://bit.ly/rXiqAM ridiculous situationNov 02 12:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Real Issue With Apple's 'Slide-To-Unlock' Patent: Double Patenting & Bogus Continuations | Techdirt .::. Size~: 40.29 KBNov 02 12:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UNESCO and COL release open education policy document for higher education - http://bit.ly/rvll15 cc-by-sa #oerNov 02 12:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Thanks to Daniel Eriksson #pdfreaders 's "Open Standards and PDF" now available in #swedish http://ur1.ca/5lbs5 !fsfe !fs !gnuNov 02 12:33
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84848274  http://identi.ca/notice/84848187Nov 02 12:34
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XFaCEschestowitz: Can the US government system go shrivel up and die now? It seems like everything they do these days is unbelievable in the negative sense.Nov 02 12:37
schestowitzyeahNov 02 12:39
schestowitzyou mean the swpats thing?Nov 02 12:39
schestowitzObama the lawyer standing up for swpats?Nov 02 12:39
schestowitzWhat a tool! :-)Nov 02 12:39
schestowitzObama-BidenNov 02 12:39
schestowitzLaywers Laywers Laywers//.. married to lawyers... running a country of non-LaywersNov 02 12:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Assange extradition ordered. Full judgement and other details here: http://t.co/Y5Lm9gHC (support us: http://t.co/t1FujWmE )Nov 02 12:41
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/723324Nov 02 12:41
schestowitz"The iPhone 4S is the fourth Apple product I've owned and have never had problems that weren't covered by AppleCare. Literally - never. Every time a new problem is discovered on whatever Apple puts to market, I feel left out."Nov 02 12:41
schestowitzOh noesNov 02 12:41
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schestowitzApplers in diasporaNov 02 12:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Stallman parody site catches Stallman's attention - http://bit.ly/ujzsF2 and he doesn't mind #rmsNov 02 12:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Directional shoes for the blind - http://bit.ly/tbLEs2 based on #arduino, of course...Nov 02 12:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @BreakingNews: CORRECTION: Assange will hear whether he will be extradited to Sweden for questioning over sex crime allegations; he h ...Nov 02 12:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New comparative study to re-examine the quality and accuracy of #Wikipedia - http://bit.ly/vMtVQX commissioned by wikimedia this time...Nov 02 12:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @kevie: !Tuxjam episode 6 is available for download http://ur1.ca/5lbzx visit the new website http://ur1.ca/5lc04 #ccmusicNov 02 12:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Exiled Tibetans in India hold memorial for wave of Tibetan self-immolations protesting Chinese military oppression - http://bit.ly/skQQa2Nov 02 12:58
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schestowitzMurdoch's 'news' is still lying to people... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxZ4dYPuFKA&feature=digest_monNov 02 12:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Jade Parker jailed for disembowelling man in window row http://goo.gl/laicf headline worthy of the #DailyMail from extortion funded #BBCNov 02 13:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] #Texas judge beat his daughter with cerebral palsy as punishment for file-sharing. http://identi.ca/url/56337211Nov 02 13:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Edmonton car attack officers keep Met Police jobs http://ur1.ca/5lc4nNov 02 13:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 2/11/2011: Linux Everywhere, Doom 3 Source Code, OpenBSD 5.0 Release http://ur1.ca/5lc4pNov 02 13:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] #Texas judge beat his cerebral palsy -inflicted daughter with as punishment for file-sharing. http://identi.ca/url/56337211 #MAFIAANov 02 13:05
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XFaCEhttp://www.techradar.com/news/computing/apple/apple-is-a-digital-vampire-says-the-who-star-1037870Nov 02 13:11
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XFaCEDammit Pete Townsend, I thought you were progressive and cool.  Instead...Nov 02 13:11
XFaCE"Townshend also hit out at illegal downloaders and said the theft of music online was a reflection of society's moral disintegration.Nov 02 13:11
XFaCE"If someone pretends that something I have created should be available to them free," he added. "I wonder what has gone wrong with human morality and social justice.Nov 02 13:11
XFaCE"I once suggested that people who download my music without paying for it may as well come and steal my son's bike while they're at it.""Nov 02 13:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Sign the New White House Petition Against Software Patents #swpatsNov 02 13:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links – E-Tyranny Acts http://ur1.ca/5lc8v #techrightsNov 02 13:11
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XFaCENo Pete, after reading your comments, I would go to your house to smack you upside the head.Nov 02 13:12
XFaCEAnother clueless music artist to add to my list.Nov 02 13:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: In managing security risks governments need to protect the Internet not kill it #londonc http://p.ost.im/p/eh99H8Nov 02 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Every EU country should have a digital champion like @Marthalanefox see my comments here http://p.ost.im/p/ehHmRGNov 02 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: #londoncyber a great conference. illustrates import. of treating #Internet as central no http://p.ost.im/p/ehcYmSNov 02 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @eurohumph: #DAE. @NeelieKroesEU EU27=let`s race on-line together! http://t.co/5DFhNqC7 http://p.ost.im/p/ehgG3QNov 02 13:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Sky News Reports #Israel Preparing For Preemptive Strike On #Iran | ZeroHedge - #usa #stateterrorism http://goo.gl/9x7sDNov 02 13:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Fracking 'probable' cause of Lancashire quakes - http://bit.ly/sfnjm0 riiightNov 02 13:50
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abeNd-orgfracking has been going around here & weve been getting 3.2 quakes, but "of course it has nothing to do with fracking)Nov 02 13:53
schestowitzabeNd-org: it's just "the man upstairs farting"Nov 02 13:56
schestowitzWhen it rains irregularly, blame the sun :-) not climate changeNov 02 13:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] OpenBSD 5.0 released (H): http://bit.ly/si5QxBNov 02 13:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The end of an era: Internet Explorer drops below 50% of Web usage - http://bit.ly/t5iIgE they said it couldn't be done... #browsersNov 02 14:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] HP to release ARM server, aimed for web, big data workloads (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/rHYlOHNov 02 14:03
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iophkIE can't go away fast enough.  How much of the gain of the better browsers is due to migration to Linux?Nov 02 14:18
schestowitzah crapNov 02 14:24
schestowitzjust find an error in my metadataNov 02 14:24
schestowitznow I know why some results were crapNov 02 14:24
schestowitzflase positivesNov 02 14:24
schestowitz:-)Nov 02 14:24
schestowitzOC curves will improve after the fixNov 02 14:24
schestowitz(*ROCNov 02 14:24
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84850469Nov 02 14:39
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Nov-11 13:59:41 UTC - Identi.ca: "To reach 25,000 in 30 days, it will be necessary for several forums and mailing lists to promote it." http://is.gd/CHL... http://b1t.it/OmzNov 02 14:39
schestowitzThis got shortened in such an unfortunate wayNov 02 14:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] wonderful that going to www.cpf.gov.sg and www.dbs.com works out of the box in Fedora 16 b3 - they need java to login btw.Nov 02 14:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] Another #DRM is dead; #Rhapsody response to affected customers boils down to "sucks to be you" http://identi.ca/url/56320029 !dbd !ppca #c11Nov 02 14:53
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XFaCEschestowitz: Am I or am I the king of wit?Nov 02 14:53
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XFaCE:)Nov 02 14:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Packing up sttuff and driving to Zürich for a presentation tmrw.Nov 02 14:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Draft doc w/ideas for future crypto ops, please review & comment: https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-dev/2011-November/002999.htmlNov 02 14:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] ...more specifically, #Rhapsody suggests customers to burn the music copies to a CD so they can be ripped. Brilliant.Nov 02 14:58
iophkThey are burned by DRM.  Nov 02 14:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] ...more specifically, #Rhapsody suggests customers burn the music copies to a CD so they can be ripped. Brilliant.Nov 02 15:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] what event is that?Nov 02 15:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Shouting is better than *not* ... not shouting = complacencyNov 02 15:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Enfield crime squad officers to keep job despite inquiry findings - http://bit.ly/uu5My4 contrast & compare what happened to the rioters...Nov 02 15:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] drive safely!Nov 02 15:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] Agreed. #Two-party system is terrible. The two parties are basically oligopolies, more similar then different. Wish #Nader stood a chance.Nov 02 15:05
XFaCEmsb__: I can't believe there'd be a day where we'd be favouring the DMCANov 02 15:06
iophkNader only split the vote.Nov 02 15:06
XFaCEiophk: Exactly, hence the "wish" partNov 02 15:06
iophkYou can't have three parties in the US. The math goes wrong.Nov 02 15:06
msb__XFaCE: WHA???Nov 02 15:06
XFaCEmsb__: Compared to Protect-my-rich-Vanity billNov 02 15:07
XFaCEmsb__: It demonstrate how your country is degrading itself so much.Nov 02 15:08
iophkXFaCE: http://wiki.electorama.com/wiki/Split_voteNov 02 15:08
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XFaCEmsb__: Unless, you aren't in the U.S., in which case substitute "your country" for USNov 02 15:08
XFaCEiophk: Don't forget the vote fraudNov 02 15:08
msb__The US is the center of world fascism.  Look what it just did to Libya -- destroyed the African nation with the highest standard of living.Nov 02 15:09
XFaCEiophk: Though here in Canada, we recently see the detrimental side of vote splittingNov 02 15:09
amarsh04with first-past-the-post voting a duopoly or monopoly is almost guaranteed. Proportional representation, and perhaps multi-member seats are needed for other parties to have a good chance to emergeNov 02 15:09
XFaCEamarsh04: Couldn't agree with you more.  It would mean more minorities perhaps, but also greater cooperation through self-preservation.  But we can't have that, can we?Nov 02 15:10
XFaCE(self-preservation of coalitions, one party withdraws the whole thing falls apart, so greater incentive to work together)Nov 02 15:11
XFaCEamarsh04: And parties like PPCA and Green would have a change to make a differenceNov 02 15:11
amarsh04exactly... .au government is being forced to cooperate these days due to not having an absolute majorityNov 02 15:11
XFaCEamarsh04: I don't think Harptator will really want to implement voting reform.  Power-hungry people tend to have a problem letting go.Nov 02 15:12
XFaCEamarsh04: SadNov 02 15:12
amarsh04governments that can steamroll new laws through end up inflicting terrible laws on the rest of usNov 02 15:13
XFaCEmsb__: And ACTA.  and TPP.  It's coming close to the point that I think many people will wish that the US suffers a catastrophic collapse so that progress has a change of occurring through rebuilding.Nov 02 15:14
XFaCEI sad it before and I say it again.  I think something will happen in 2012, and it will be entirely caused by humans.Nov 02 15:14
XFaCERelated to what I've said about American collapse.Nov 02 15:15
XFaCEThe car's on empty and it's being driven to deathNov 02 15:15
XFaCEmsb__: If you oppose Gov't censorship, you are against... firefighters? Townshend also hit out at illegal downloaders and said the theft of music online was a reflection of society's moral disintegration.Nov 02 15:16
XFaCE"If someone pretends that something I have created should be available to them free," he added. "I wonder what has gone wrong with human morality and social justice.Nov 02 15:16
XFaCE"I once suggested that people who download my music without paying for it may as well come and steal my son's bike while they're at it."Nov 02 15:16
XFaCEoopsNov 02 15:16
XFaCEhttp://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111101/02155916579/well-if-firefighters-support-e-parasite-law-then-you-know-it-must-make-sense.shtmlNov 02 15:17
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msb__American businessmen have used the US and German (WW2) military to murder hundreds of millions of people in the 20th and 21st centuries.Nov 02 15:18
msb__The rest of the world has every right to attack the US.Nov 02 15:19
XFaCEmsb__: That's not very productive.  Then the U.S. uses it's overdeveloped military, and we probably end in a nuclear winter.  That's no fun.Nov 02 15:20
XFaCEI mean, I agree that the U.S. has demonstrated that it deserves the ire of many nations, for sure.Nov 02 15:21
msb__XFaCE: I'm not recommending it, just saying that it could easily happen.Nov 02 15:21
XFaCEmsb__: ConcurredNov 02 15:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] My subjective summary of #net4change and #adhocracy: rys.io/en/42 | sobiektywnie o net4change i adhocracy: rys.io/pl/42Nov 02 15:23
msb__The US attacks every socialist nation that it can -- Cuba, Nicaragua, Vietnam, Libya, Korea -- to destroy examples of nations whose governments really help their people economically, e.g. by sharing the profits from natural resources.Nov 02 15:24
msb__... Afghanistan in the 1980s.Nov 02 15:25
XFaCEmsb__: Glad ender is no longer here, or you'd be a part of giant masonic socialist conspiracy. :DNov 02 15:26
XFaCE*the giantNov 02 15:26
msb__...The USSR during WW2 using the Nazis.Nov 02 15:26
XFaCEmsb__: BTW, he's no longer a Fedora cheerleader or whatever the f**k he was.Nov 02 15:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] JEE expert Steve Robinson's new blog, about all things WebSphere: http://ur1.ca/5le9dNov 02 15:26
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msb__He's a Microsoft cheerleader.Nov 02 15:26
msb__I'm almost done editing my "MS War Against Linux" web page, and will wham them with it good!Nov 02 15:28
schestowitzhe is enitherNov 02 15:28
msb__...in COLANov 02 15:28
schestowitzHe is piggybacking Linux to promote conspiratorial k00keryNov 02 15:28
schestowitzand Microsoft when it suits himNov 02 15:28
schestowitzHe also posts a lot of OT stuff in COLANov 02 15:29
XFaCEschestowitz: Wayne Borean sees something in him.  I think WB is more interested by the conspiracy side.Nov 02 15:29
schestowitzthere's a troll called MikeeUSA or something using FOSS to flame with his misogynist viewsNov 02 15:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] Among *many* other examples: http://identi.ca/url/56340169 http://identi.ca/url/37455541 #TPM #DRM !dbdNov 02 15:30
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schestowitzXFaCE: Wayne used to mock him for some climate change stuffNov 02 15:30
XFaCEmsb_: You will link that page when he it is done?Nov 02 15:30
schestowitzBut I don't care, let's not talk about peopleNov 02 15:30
schestowitzUnless they are public figuresNov 02 15:30
msb__XFaCE: You betcha!Nov 02 15:30
schestowitzRMS gets a lot of publicity these daysNov 02 15:30
schestowitzWhich is goodNov 02 15:30
schestowitzSome bad, some worse, but more people become aware of his workNov 02 15:30
XFaCEschestowitz: "And then Brandon asked me if I was going to take part in NaNoWriMo. Synapses began to fire, and in five minutes I had a thoroughly evil plan, so I got Brandon on IM and started to reel the sucker, erm, future collaborator in.Nov 02 15:31
XFaCEAnd I sold him on it.Nov 02 15:31
XFaCEBrandon Lozza, ex-Fedora Ambassador, Conspiracy Theorist, and all around fun lunatic, is going to collaborate on a NaNoWriMo novel with Wayne Borean, Political Gadfly, Copyright Pain in the Ass, Canadian Publisher, Futurist, and a man with the personality of Rabid Wolverine."Nov 02 15:31
schestowitzRMS knows how to sometimes "shock" the audience just a bit (even with humour) to attract attention. It's not *too* bad.Nov 02 15:31
schestowitzLike his "not using browser" thing and tinfoil on the cards in London tubesNov 02 15:32
XFaCEschestowitz: I should not skim blogs so much http://madhatter.ca/2011/10/31/great-exploding-websites-batman-nanowrimo-and-publishing/ :PNov 02 15:32
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XFaCEschestowitz: Torrentfreak has a mostly positive view of him based on comments.Nov 02 15:32
schestowitzyeahNov 02 15:32
schestowitzhe has reasonable views on copyrightsNov 02 15:33
schestowitzBut a lot of people are thinking what Mrdoch tells them toNov 02 15:33
schestowitzRMS gives talks on copyrights these daysNov 02 15:33
schestowitzThis too relates to his pro-sharing philosophyNov 02 15:33
schestowitzRMS has a niche and he also got recognised more widely recently, for his views that shock some peopleNov 02 15:33
schestowitzThey don't realise this, but even by mocking him over stuff which he says that upon close inspection would make sense to many, they actually help his causeNov 02 15:34
schestowitzCase of point:Nov 02 15:34
XFaCEschestowitz: Fox News shows now have lower ratings then the Daily Show and the Colbert Report (from a fairly recent LV video); there is hopeNov 02 15:34
schestowitzman a mocks RMS for tinfoil on cardNov 02 15:34
schestowitzman b reads up the argument, mocks RMS amplifies the signalNov 02 15:34
schestowitzman c read the message of RMS and agreesNov 02 15:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] So, who will the #99percent / #OWS / #occupy crowd vote for during the upcoming elections? Will a 3rd party finally get a chance?Nov 02 15:35
schestowitzand so RMS has more supporters who are accidental so to speakNov 02 15:35
XFaCEPublicity is publicity I sayNov 02 15:35
schestowitzI can't remember when I discovered about RMS, but it was at a very l.ate stageNov 02 15:35
XFaCEschestowitz: Me too, around 2007 I thinkNov 02 15:35
schestowitzThere's no lack of Jobs criticsNov 02 15:35
XFaCEMaybe earlierNov 02 15:35
XFaCEschestowitz: Drowned out by glorifiersNov 02 15:35
schestowitzRMS is kept 'in the closet' by some in the "Linux" worldNov 02 15:35
schestowitzBut sometimes he makes the headlinesNov 02 15:36
XFaCEbblNov 02 15:36
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schestowitzThey try to say "he's not us"Nov 02 15:36
schestowitzBut actually, he isNov 02 15:36
msb__schestowitz: What is this tinfoil card business?  I haven't heard about it.Nov 02 15:36
schestowitzAnd many in the Linux world very much repsect himNov 02 15:36
schestowitzSome won't even admit this because their employer might get the wrong ideaNov 02 15:36
schestowitzI visited tis one Linux0using company the other day and the subject of RMS came upNov 02 15:37
schestowitzSome people admired his positions, but in a company they cannot echo those viewsNov 02 15:37
schestowitzSo they adapt publicly but not internallyNov 02 15:37
schestowitzmsb__: it's about the cards in london that track youNov 02 15:37
schestowitzLike RFIDNov 02 15:37
schestowitzSo when you even take the bus they know who you are and where you areNov 02 15:38
msb__Yii!Nov 02 15:38
schestowitzPhones do similar thingsNov 02 15:38
schestowitzAnd paying for grociries with cardsNov 02 15:38
msb__Are these obligatory ID cards that everyone must carry?Nov 02 15:38
schestowitzEither Nectoar card (discounts) or debit or credit cards...Nov 02 15:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Hollywood Front Group Rounds Up 4,000 Letters Sent To Congress, Pretending It's 100,000 - http://bit.ly/rFVSHZ studio accountingNov 02 15:38
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schestowitzThey couple ID with groceries one purchasesNov 02 15:38
schestowitzSo if someone wants to know what you bought in the past 10 years, they easily see it.... condoms, medicine, TV, etc.Nov 02 15:39
schestowitzmsb__: to travel you might need themNov 02 15:39
schestowitzIn London I;'m denied use of the bus unless I do that Oyster crapNov 02 15:39
schestowitzWhich means you pay some machineNov 02 15:39
schestowitzThen get a cardNov 02 15:39
schestowitzAnd some of these cards are personalised with ID, unlike normal bus pass like the old usesNov 02 15:40
schestowitzFOr the Tube you can still get some anonymous-ish passes for several daysNov 02 15:40
schestowitzBut people who get long-term ones do a more formal processNov 02 15:40
schestowitzThat said, if uyou carry a mobile, I doubt you lose much by being anally probed like this for tave routesNov 02 15:41
schestowitzAnd with CCTV in every shop they could do some extra work to couple one's inventory with IDNov 02 15:41
msb__Seems like England has gone farthest down the road to a police/surveillance state of any nation.Nov 02 15:41
schestowitzBut it's hardNov 02 15:41
schestowitzIn a city of 1 million people it's hard to extract ID from motion picture in CCTV qualityNov 02 15:42
msb__Maybe it's the influence over the govt of the Rothschilds' Bank of England.Nov 02 15:42
schestowitzNot with high certainty anywayNov 02 15:42
schestowitzBand of England is not the Rothschilds'  Nov 02 15:42
schestowitzIt's an instituation 400 years oldNov 02 15:42
schestowitzTied to the CrownNov 02 15:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] if you have time (and/or your presentation is open to the public), ping me if you want and we can meet up. (i live in Zürich :)Nov 02 15:43
schestowitzYou'd have to tied f the Rothschilds to the crowd to substantiate this theory you throw into the potNov 02 15:43
msb__But incorporating recent realtime credit card purchase info may make CCTV identification a lot easier.Nov 02 15:43
schestowitzmsb__: Texas University gets lots of Federal funded to help do face recognitionNov 02 15:45
schestowitzBut more for ID card-type thingsNov 02 15:45
schestowitzThe US police state wants more control over protests and stuff... anonymous crowd is hard to engage in retribution againstNov 02 15:45
schestowitzTHe caveat though, some of the research they do can also be used beneficially to develop medical applicationsNov 02 15:46
schestowitzA bit like the NASA impact on other walks of lifeNov 02 15:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Over on Diaspora: The first figure out of the Warhammer40k starter set is painted! http://goo.gl/Rl752Nov 02 15:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @glynmoody: Hollywood Front Group Rounds Up 4,000 Letters Sent To Congress, Pretending It's 100,000 - http://bit.ly/rFVSHZ studio accountiNov 02 15:46
schestowitzUsing spin on Cold War machine to promote Tefl;onNov 02 15:46
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Hollywood Front Group Rounds Up 4,000 Letters Sent To Congress, Pretending It's 100,000 | Techdirt .::. Size~: 57.02 KBNov 02 15:47
schestowitzUS activist should do more to sniff into the relationship between gov. and uni. research that helps crack down on human rights Nov 02 15:47
schestowitzI can only provide pointersNov 02 15:47
schestowitzCan't attack people in similar fiieldsNov 02 15:48
schestowitzTexas is also where Alex Jones and fellow scaremongerers are basedNov 02 15:48
msb__Lots of connections: https://www.google.com/search?q=rothschild+%22bank+of+england%22Nov 02 15:49
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schestowitzAny article in particular?Nov 02 15:50
schestowitzMany hits (without looking) might not be more than speculationNov 02 15:50
schestowitzIf you can show references to that family right in the BoE Web site, that might helpNov 02 15:51
msb__schestowitz: Do the people you call "scaremongers" report on any frightening things that aren't true?Nov 02 15:51
schestowitzyesNov 02 15:51
schestowitzI heard they exaggerated y2k stuff back in the daysNov 02 15:51
msb__schestowitz: Would you please name a few?Nov 02 15:51
schestowitzAnd I also saw claims about coffins and stuff that they blow out of reasonable proportionsNov 02 15:51
schestowitzThere is also a lot on the climate side and 9/11Nov 02 15:52
msb__The coffins and US concentration camps are real.Nov 02 15:52
schestowitzand going further back to the 90s' wtc bombingNov 02 15:52
schestowitzmsb__: they are not coffins and concentration campsNov 02 15:52
schestowitzThey're prisons for, say, immigrantsNov 02 15:53
msb__The 1993 WTC bombing was instigated by the FBI.  There is absolutely no doubt about it.Nov 02 15:53
schestowitzOr hordes of dissidentsNov 02 15:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Ciekawe, Eurodeputowany prof. Legutko próbował chować się przed licealistami za immunitetem: ur1.ca/5lelgNov 02 15:53
schestowitzConcentration camps are typically synonymous with death campsNov 02 15:53
schestowitzSo there is a game there with connottaionsNov 02 15:53
schestowitzTo imply they carry out exterminations there and then put people in coffinsNov 02 15:53
msb__Detention facilities for dissidents are by definition concentration camps.Nov 02 15:53
schestowitzAlex Jones embrafces Hitler to sell DVSsNov 02 15:53
schestowitzDVDsNov 02 15:54
schestowitzmsb__: right, but it's a loade termNov 02 15:54
schestowitzlike "holocaust"Nov 02 15:54
msb__How does Jones embrace Hitler?Nov 02 15:54
schestowitzWhich got capitalised by someNov 02 15:54
schestowitzmsb__: he sells the illusion of Nazi USNov 02 15:54
schestowitzLike you do to an extentNov 02 15:54
schestowitzOr link to those who doNov 02 15:54
schestowitzNaomi Wolf does that tooNov 02 15:55
msb__Hitler was 75% financed by American businessmen.Nov 02 15:55
schestowitzNAZI! HITLER! FASCISM! OMG! Obama is the THIRD REICH!! panic panic... terrorism... MuhammadNov 02 15:55
schestowitzThe Nazis had some support from German-AmericansNov 02 15:56
schestowitzDon't know if 75% thoughNov 02 15:56
msb__The US has attacked for no good reason Korea, Vietnam, Nicaragua, Cuba, Libya, Serbia...Nov 02 15:56
schestowitzGot a cittauion for this figure?Nov 02 15:56
msb__Yes, on my website.Nov 02 15:56
schestowitzYou are throwing into the ring more half-truths than I can tackleNov 02 15:56
schestowitzhttp://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_GallopNov 02 15:56
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msb__schestowitz: Are you unwilling to read the linked pages, as you are with the 9/11 research?Nov 02 15:57
schestowitzIf you want to see "concentration camps", go to AuschwitzNov 02 15:57
schestowitzIt's a museum nowNov 02 15:57
msb__If so, your calling the info "half-truths" is dishonest.Nov 02 15:57
schestowitzIt was not same US camp with fencesNov 02 15:58
schestowitzIt had electric fences, gas chambers, incineratorsNov 02 15:58
schestowitzSo rethink the use of terminology you hear from the Alex Joneses of the worldNov 02 15:58
schestowitzIt's designed to confuseNov 02 15:58
schestowitzThe Japanese prison camps are better analogyNov 02 15:59
schestowitzThe US 'Japs' were not murderedNov 02 15:59
schestowitzJust confined due to issues related to loyaltyNov 02 15:59
schestowitzThey were not mistreated to the extreme, AFAIKNov 02 15:59
schestowitz[15:57] <msb__> If so, your calling the info "half-truths" is dishonest.\Nov 02 15:59
schestowitzIt's tiilted if not outright flaseNov 02 16:00
schestowitzFor instanceNov 02 16:00
schestowitzYou saw "US Nazis"Nov 02 16:00
schestowitzTo an outsider it would sound as though members of the Nazi party were major people in US govt.Nov 02 16:00
schestowitzBut you refer merely to donoursNov 02 16:00
schestowitzIt's like calling Bill Gates a GOldman SachserNov 02 16:01
msb__http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Dys3xE2BnkNov 02 16:01
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msb__Shows the concentration camps in the US.Nov 02 16:01
schestowitzHe's in the same circles with JonesNov 02 16:01
schestowitzI think I saw part of that... same stuff with coffins and camps... he also does all the 9/11 stuff that had him labelled a k00kNov 02 16:02
schestowitzmsb__: they are not concentration campsNov 02 16:02
schestowitzAnd they are not being used, eitherNov 02 16:02
schestowitzThey are massive prisonsNov 02 16:02
msb__You're splitting hairs.Nov 02 16:02
msb__The laws are already in place for the US govt to murder anyone they choose.Nov 02 16:03
schestowitzMany countries have thoseNov 02 16:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Britain’s $25 computer is coming by Christmas - http://bit.ly/rQ84mE I do hope this takes off #linuxNov 02 16:03
schestowitzBoo hooNov 02 16:03
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schestowitzLike in most countriesNov 02 16:03
schestowitzThe laws don't matterNov 02 16:03
schestowitzThey can and do assassinate threats to powerNov 02 16:03
msb__So with the dissidents rounded up in the mass prisons, they can just kill us.Nov 02 16:03
schestowitzhave they?Nov 02 16:04
schestowitzDo they have killing facilities in those prisons or are these just prisons?Nov 02 16:04
schestowitzMaybe in case of war with Russia or CHina they want to be able to lock up people with mixed loyaltyNov 02 16:04
msb__A "killing facility" can be only a pistol.Nov 02 16:04
schestowitzThey don't need goulags for thatNov 02 16:05
schestowitzThey can just shoot right awayNov 02 16:05
schestowitzLike StalinNov 02 16:05
schestowitzTha the US has too many guns is not a mere theoryNov 02 16:05
schestowitzIn all likelihood you too have a gunNov 02 16:05
schestowitzRyan has twoNov 02 16:05
msb__I don't.Nov 02 16:05
schestowitzOn average, every old man and baby have on average 2 gunsNov 02 16:06
msb__The govt has too many, and other, horrible, weapons.Nov 02 16:06
schestowitzYou need to worry more about apocalyptic gang wars than govt.-organised campsNov 02 16:06
msb__If everyone in the US had a rifle, we'd be a lot safer here.Nov 02 16:06
schestowitzThat's already the caseNov 02 16:07
schestowitzthose with two guns give one to a neighbour to arm the friendsNov 02 16:07
msb__Roy, I can't figure out what goes on in your mind.  You sneer at me when I tell the truth -- Nov 02 16:07
schestowitzBut this can lead to gang warsNov 02 16:07
schestowitzIf the government gets too weak, then it's dog eat dog..Nov 02 16:08
msb__.. "Boo hoo" -- and you refuse to read the info on the websites I link to.Nov 02 16:08
schestowitzmsb__: you say you tell the truthNov 02 16:08
msb__Yes.Nov 02 16:08
schestowitzBut you have a burden of proof, tooNov 02 16:08
schestowitzI asked for evidence that Bank od England is the property of a family other than the royal familyNov 02 16:08
schestowitzYou gave me some google SERPNov 02 16:08
msb__The proof is in the websites I link to that you refuse to look at.Nov 02 16:08
schestowitzWith lots of stuff I imagine (didn't look), not one link of quality and peer approvalNov 02 16:09
schestowitzOr a URL from BoE which states this as factNov 02 16:09
msb__"peer approval" ?Nov 02 16:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Eight foot Lego Man to stay in police custody in Florida (Seattlepi.com): http://bit.ly/rsiZbWNov 02 16:10
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schestowitzThe UK economy is not the property and sandbox of one familyNov 02 16:10
schestowitzThat's an absurd claimNov 02 16:10
msb__I didn't say it was.Nov 02 16:10
schestowitzJust as "the Fed" is not totally in chanrge of the US economy... it works at the behest of people whose name we knowNov 02 16:10
msb__What is "SERP" ?Nov 02 16:10
schestowitzsearch engine results pageNov 02 16:10
schestowitzlook what I di...Nov 02 16:11
schestowitz!google ballmer is gayNov 02 16:11
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Ballmer on car insurance and gay rights - CNET News | http://news.cnet.com/Ballmer-on-car-insurance-and-gay-rights/2100-1014_3-5705310.htmlNov 02 16:11
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Ballmer Says Microsoft To Support Gay Rights - Forbes.com | http://www.forbes.com/2005/05/06/0506autofacescan11.htmlNov 02 16:11
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Microsoft will support gay rights legislation - Business - US business ... | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7762073/ns/business-us_business/t/microsoft-will-support-gay-rights-legislation/Nov 02 16:11
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schestowitzThere.Nov 02 16:11
schestowitzIs that informationNov 02 16:11
schestowitz?Nov 02 16:11
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msb__In 1869, Lionel's son, Alfred de Rothschild (1842-1918), became a director of the Bank of England, a post he held for 20 years.Nov 02 16:18
msb__http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_banking_family_of_EnglandNov 02 16:18
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schestowitzdirector is not an ownerNov 02 16:19
schestowitzThat was a long time ago, tooNov 02 16:19
schestowitzI have no doubt they have influence there, but where does one validate the claim that they own or run the BoE?Nov 02 16:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] CD-format to be abandoned by major labels by the end of 2012 - http://bit.ly/son6MB significant moment, if true (v @TheTechScribe)Nov 02 16:26
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msb__Roy, I know you would like to focus on this one matter, but what about the more than 100 million people murdered by the US and German military in the 20th and 21st centuries, for the benefit of wealthy businessmen?Nov 02 16:27
msb__Can you deal with that?Nov 02 16:27
msb__Wealthy US businessmen.Nov 02 16:27
*schestowitz backNov 02 16:28
schestowitz[[I have to go soon]Nov 02 16:28
schestowitzBTW, your views here sometimes stain techrights with allegations many readers do not agree with, and rightly soNov 02 16:28
schestowitzI agree that US interests kill many people, but the US is not aloneNov 02 16:29
schestowitzSee Russia, Germany, China...Nov 02 16:29
schestowitzAll superpowers have many lives hanging in the balanceNov 02 16:29
schestowitzI'd rather suffer US tyranny than Chinese tyrannyNov 02 16:29
schestowitzYou too need to ask yourself this questionNov 02 16:29
msb__The US attacks on Nicaragua, Libya, Cuba, Serbia, had nothing to do with Chinese tyranny.Nov 02 16:30
msb__They were done to destroy socialist governments, as was US financing of Hitler.Nov 02 16:30
msb__Businessmen use their govt and its military to invade and destroy any nation that's controlled by, or benefits its people, and not the ultra-wealthy few.Nov 02 16:32
msb__That is Fascism, and the US is at the center of it.Nov 02 16:32
msb__Since it is the US that does these attacks.Nov 02 16:33
abeNd-orgso, change thingsNov 02 16:33
abeNd-orgsheshNov 02 16:33
msb__Well, I have a good website at least.Nov 02 16:33
msb__cosmicpenguin.comNov 02 16:33
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msb__The conflict is between the ultra-wealthy and everyone else.Nov 02 16:36
msb__abeNd-org: How would you suggest that I "change things shesh" ?Nov 02 16:41
abeNd-org*I* will not tell you how you should change the world to suit yourselfNov 02 16:42
schestowitzIt's impossible without awareness of the issuesNov 02 16:42
schestowitzI hammer on the patent sideNov 02 16:42
schestowitzI think techrights does well on that one angleNov 02 16:42
msb__Yes, it does.Nov 02 16:43
schestowitztaNov 02 16:43
schestowitzcya laterNov 02 16:43
schestowitzgotta run to the health club..Nov 02 16:43
abeNd-orgi can barely keep my own little world together, much less change the rest of itNov 02 16:44
msb__I ask because your "sheesh" seemed to imply that it would be easy and that I should stop complaining.Nov 02 16:45
msb__But I think the first action to take is to inform people.  Otherwise activists will be labelled as "terrorists" and eliminated.Nov 02 16:46
msb__The "terrorist" accusation is their universal way to discredit people and justify murdering them.  Similar to "conspiracy theorist".Nov 02 16:47
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amarsh04schestowitz, when I was in .jp I liked how one could have an anonymous suica card or one that was identifed so you could declare it lost, and presumably you could have multiple cards and the only requirement would be to use the same card to start and finish a journeyNov 02 16:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] trying to clean up and optimize openggsn. among other things, it's hashed packet queue implementation eats 64MB for each SGSN it talks toNov 02 16:49
abeNd-orgmsb most people only complain about it, but do nothing to actually even attempt to enact changeNov 02 16:52
amarsh04it gets frustrating when the state police commissioner, the state minister of road safety, the state minister of transport and others know what you are trying to achieve and expend more effort on defending the way things are than improving themNov 02 16:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] A free (of charge) real analysis textbook #math http://ur1.ca/5lfiwNov 02 16:56
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*MinceR_ is now known as MinceRNov 02 17:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] British armed forces step up plans for attack on Iran amid fresh nuclear fears - http://bit.ly/t4HgqK have we learned nothing from #iraq?Nov 02 17:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @cwebber Working on pushing out the MediaGoblin 0.1.0 release!Nov 02 17:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @mediagoblin !GNU MediaGoblin 0.1.0 "Living the Dream" released! http://ur1.ca/5ld8k And a whole new http://mediagoblin.org/Nov 02 17:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] The House's proposed copyright bill is so broad, it threatens whistleblowing and human rights https://eff.org/r.F6s #blacklistNov 02 17:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Wednesday's security updates http://ur1.ca/5lfxwNov 02 17:25
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MinceRi don't see how pointing out fascism in the USA is equivalent to "embracing hitler"Nov 02 17:26
DaemonFC[13:17] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [glynmoody/@glynmoody] British armed forces step up plans for attack on Iran amid fresh nuclear fears - http://bit.ly/t4HgqK have we learned nothing from #iraq?Nov 02 17:26
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DaemonFCThe British are our partners in crimeNov 02 17:26
DaemonFCas are the CanadiansNov 02 17:26
MinceRgeekingsNov 02 17:28
DaemonFCI wouldn't mind seeing Iran disappearing but it's not worth the lives and money it would cost in the way it would be doneNov 02 17:28
DaemonFCcostly invasion and lengthy occupationNov 02 17:28
DaemonFCit's probably true that we could just take out their infrastructure and let their government collapse, but power vacuums usually bring something worseNov 02 17:29
DaemonFCit would be preferable to leave them alone as long as there is a choiceNov 02 17:29
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iophkhttp://www.fastcompany.com/1792313/striking-it-rich-in-the-app-store-for-developers-its-more-casino-than-gold-mineNov 02 17:32
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DaemonFCThe new Libyan government seems more like the old one with every news story about what they are up toNov 02 17:32
DaemonFCunelected government, execution without trialsNov 02 17:33
DaemonFCmaybe there will be elections and maybe there won't beNov 02 17:33
DaemonFCor maybe they'll just be a shamNov 02 17:33
DaemonFC[13:34] <DaemonFC> I've heard complaints from some app developers that the Apple approval process takes so long that often the version that gets approved will have bugs that get fixed almost immediately after, but the submission of an update is considered the same as submission of a new appNov 02 17:36
DaemonFC[13:34] <DaemonFC> so Apple users frequently get stuck with buggy apps that are constantly 2-3 versions behind Nov 02 17:36
DaemonFC:)Nov 02 17:36
DaemonFC[13:36] <DaemonFC> and of course companies that pay Apple a lot of money can get their app fast trackedNov 02 17:37
DaemonFC[13:36] <DaemonFC> I don't even want to know what Opera had to pay to get approved in "only" three weeksNov 02 17:37
DaemonFC[13:36] <DaemonFC> that's lightning fast for AppleNov 02 17:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] CD-format to be abandoned by major labels by the end of 2012 http://ur1.ca/5lg6u #CD #disc #music #audioNov 02 17:45
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iophkThe end of CDs could make iTunes even more influential and in control.Nov 02 17:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] http://ur1.ca/5lgax #sip_and_click .....and #shortened?Nov 02 17:52
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DaemonFC[13:55] <DaemonFC> and once they stop making CDs, it will be the return of DRMNov 02 17:58
DaemonFC[13:55] <DaemonFC> because you have no good clean non-DRM copy to make non-crippled files withNov 02 17:58
DaemonFC[13:56] <DaemonFC> what's worse is that it will also make Apple FoulPlay even worseNov 02 17:58
DaemonFC[13:56] <DaemonFC> because they're not competing with legitimate products anymoreNov 02 17:58
DaemonFC[13:58] <DaemonFC> There's also the various incarnations of Microsoft PlaysForNow/FailsForSureNov 02 18:00
DaemonFC[13:58] <DaemonFC> we might even see the return of competing DRM formats from the "labels"Nov 02 18:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] The end of an era: Internet Explorer drops below 50% of Web usage http://ur1.ca/5lg50 #ie #microsoft #web #browsers #market #marketshareNov 02 18:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Is Internet Explorer Dying? http://ur1.ca/5lgia #ie #microsoft #windows #web #browsers #market #marketshareNov 02 18:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Judge: Abuse of Disabled Daughter 'Not as Bad as It Looks on Tape' - http://gaw.kr/sXteGY I doubt whether his daughter thinks soNov 02 18:17
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DaemonFChttp://daemonfc.wordpress.com/2011/11/02/the-death-of-audio-cds/Nov 02 18:26
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sebsebsebschestowitz:  you here?Nov 02 18:27
sebsebsebMinceR:  watch thsiNov 02 18:27
sebsebsebMinceR:  http://video.ubuntu.com/live/Nov 02 18:27
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sebsebsebabout patentsNov 02 18:28
sebsebseboinNov 02 18:28
sebsebsebat the momentNov 02 18:28
sebsebsebit seemsNov 02 18:28
amarsh04not sure how many companies will stop selling cd's altogether though... lots of individual artists and those with dispersed fans would still sell physical cd'sNov 02 18:28
sebsebsebyeah patent warsNov 02 18:28
sebsebsebat the momentNov 02 18:28
sebsebsebamarsh04: watch this  http://video.ubuntu.com/live/Nov 02 18:30
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amarsh04will look in a few minutes... is it viewable using Free software?Nov 02 18:33
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sebsebsebamarsh04: well FlashNov 02 18:34
sebsebseb,but this is liveNov 02 18:34
sebsebsebit's over in like 10 minutesNov 02 18:34
amarsh04ok, will tryNov 02 18:34
DaemonFC[14:31] <DaemonFC> Yes, I'm against newspapers but for CDs. Strange? No.Nov 02 18:35
DaemonFC[14:32] <DaemonFC> Newspapers destroy trees to fill your life with more lies and get thrown in the trash immediatelyNov 02 18:35
DaemonFC[14:32] <DaemonFC> CDs essentially last forever, are a good "master copy" for FLAC files, which last forever.Nov 02 18:35
DaemonFC[14:32] <DaemonFC> and the format was finalized before anyone ever thought of serious DRM.Nov 02 18:35
DaemonFC[14:33] <DaemonFC> and attempts to introduce it after the fact simply crashed Macs and installed malware into WindowsNov 02 18:35
DaemonFC[14:33] <DaemonFC> which doesn't concern meNov 02 18:35
DaemonFC[14:33] <DaemonFC> :)Nov 02 18:35
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amarsh04sebsebseb, it didn't work with gnashNov 02 18:38
amarsh04or mplayerNov 02 18:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @jezra it just cuts out an extra step of opening from #newsbeuter in #chromium, shorten then paste; now jus' copy & paste :DNov 02 18:39
amarsh04.au news just had Noam Chomsky supporting the Occupy movementNov 02 18:40
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sebsebseb_Goblin: you just missed itNov 02 18:50
_Goblinmissed what?Nov 02 18:50
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sebsebseb_Goblin: there was a live stream from Ubuntu Developer Summit about patents wars and suchNov 02 18:51
sebsebsebOIN person I think yeahNov 02 18:51
sebsebsebprobably be a video coming up of this as well though, but yeah that was interestingNov 02 18:51
DaemonFChttp://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.7.3.phpNov 02 18:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: KDE - KDE's November Updates Improve Nepomuk Stability .::. Size~: 20.13 KBNov 02 18:53
DaemonFCKDE 4.7.3 is outNov 02 18:53
sebsebsebDaemonFC: yep I know and don't really careNov 02 18:54
sebsebsebDaemonFC: since I won't be using it any time soon, unless it's in Mageia 2 alpha 1 of course :DNov 02 18:54
DaemonFCit has some minor kwin optimizationsNov 02 18:55
DaemonFCespecially if you use the GLES versionNov 02 18:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: Privacy Commish expressed concerns about digital lock rules in 2008. C-11 contains privacy exception, but..Nov 02 18:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: blocks ability to exercise exception by inability to legally obtain devices for this very purpose. http://t.co/eiZGUOWmNov 02 19:00
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_Goblinschestowitz: Up for a recording...I think I can manage in about an hour!Nov 02 19:14
sebsebseb_Goblin: I think he's awayNov 02 19:14
_GoblinahNov 02 19:14
XFaCE_Goblin: Shut down!Nov 02 19:15
XFaCElolNov 02 19:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Oakland General Strike posters http://identi.ca/url/56344305Nov 02 19:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Julian Assange loses extradition appeal http://identi.ca/url/56344306 !wlNov 02 19:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Oakland General Strike posters  - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 17.2 KBNov 02 19:15
XFaCEEveryday is stupid laws and politics dayNov 02 19:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Julian Assange loses extradition appeal - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 23.24 KBNov 02 19:15
_Goblin:)Nov 02 19:16
_GoblinIf Roy's not about I have two choices.....Nov 02 19:16
_Goblin1/ record by myselfNov 02 19:16
_GoblinorNov 02 19:16
_Goblin2/ Paint another Ultra-MarineNov 02 19:17
_Goblin....Nov 02 19:17
_GoblinhmmmNov 02 19:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] libabc: a demonstration library for kernel developers http://ur1.ca/5lh7hNov 02 19:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Oakland PD to mayor: are we 99% or not? http://identi.ca/url/56344316Nov 02 19:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: libabc: a demonstration library for kernel developers [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 7.96 KBNov 02 19:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Oakland PD to mayor: are we 99% or not? - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 24.83 KBNov 02 19:17
_GoblinI'll give him a little longer then probably for 2.Nov 02 19:17
sebsebseb_Goblin: XFaCE migh want to go on next month :DNov 02 19:18
_Goblinah.....Nov 02 19:18
sebsebseb_Goblin: plus may be able to get that Mageia founder been wanting on, next month :DNov 02 19:18
_Goblinall are welcomeNov 02 19:19
sebsebsebXFaCE with me I  meant aboveNov 02 19:19
sebsebseb_Goblin: and I would go on when the Mageia founder goes on I guess, but you and schestowitz would do most talking with him or something I guessNov 02 19:19
sebsebseb_Goblin: probably about two hours those episodes as well heh heh :DNov 02 19:20
sebsebsebnot three and a bit, ah well, got comfortable eventaully, and had more stuff to say, wanted to make the most of it :DNov 02 19:20
sebsebseb_Goblin: had to figure out how the thing worked a bit at first, not quite like a phone callNov 02 19:21
sebsebsebeven if I am half saying stuff, yep it  comes in fineNov 02 19:21
sebsebseb_Goblin: and got to interrupt Roy at times to get stuff saidNov 02 19:21
sebsebsebnot quite like a phone call, where it's very much so done in tursnNov 02 19:21
sebsebsebturnsNov 02 19:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] blogged: Is #PAYPAL a political tool ? ~ !freeByron http://ur1.ca/5lhe6 !Canada !CDNpoliNov 02 19:34
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sebsebseb_Goblin Ubuntu Community bikering UDS sessonNov 02 19:43
sebsebseb_Goblin: intersting listeing to thisNov 02 19:43
sebsebseb,but I started listening late hmmNov 02 19:43
sebsebsebUbuntu Developer SummitNov 02 19:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] So it seems the !Google changes have stopped !blogilo working with Blogger too? Well that's just greatNov 02 19:44
iophkThe patents discussion may, with hope, lead to a re-consideration of the appropriateness of including Mono at all in the distro.Nov 02 19:49
sebsebsebiophk: nope probably notNov 02 19:50
sebsebsebiophk: also it was more about fighiting back at patents trolls and that kind of thingNov 02 19:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Shared a post "Check this out. Vim in your browser. #beyondawesome" http://ur1.ca/5lhkrNov 02 19:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fabian Scherschel - Google+ - Check this out. Vim in your browser. #beyondawesome .::. Size~: 45.28 KBNov 02 19:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Stacked means that all votes are not equal. 40% of the vote can mean an absolute majority or a crushing defeat.Nov 02 19:52
_Gobliniophk: I would hope you are right....just been talking about that over on DiasporaNov 02 19:53
sebsebseb_Goblin: the UDS session or?Nov 02 19:55
sebsebseb_Goblin: anyway this reducing community bickering sesson is rahter interesting to listen to and what's going on in the IRCNov 02 19:55
sebsebsebshame I ended up joining late to that thoughNov 02 19:55
sebsebsebah wellNov 02 19:55
_GoblinI wish I'd caught it tooNov 02 19:56
sebsebseb_Goblin: which?Nov 02 19:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] How does it make a difference when Obama just continues the work Bush started?Nov 02 19:57
_Goblinthe UDS sessionNov 02 19:57
sebsebseb_Goblin: yeah the bickering one is still on, but not for much longerNov 02 19:57
sebsebseb_Goblin: there's a intersting one next though I thinkNov 02 19:57
sebsebsebwell two evenNov 02 19:57
sebsebseb_Goblin: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-p/2011-11-02/Nov 02 19:58
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sebsebsebhttp://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-p/2011-11-02/Nov 02 19:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu Developer Summit - P -  2011-11-02 .::. Size~: 355.68 KBNov 02 19:58
sebsebsebI think the Ubuntu and Phones session will be interestingNov 02 19:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Occupy Capitalism http://goo.gl/xGWhv « ThoughtfulNov 02 19:59
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sebsebsebno that's laterNov 02 19:59
sebsebsebso is the default apps discussion probably also interstingishNov 02 19:59
sebsebsebanyway there's a good one nextNov 02 19:59
sebsebsebI thinkNov 02 19:59
sebsebsebText-Free bootNov 02 19:59
sebsebsebhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-p-text-free-bootNov 02 20:00
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sebsebsebRead the descriptpion here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/lightdm/+bug/593496Nov 02 20:00
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sebsebsebseems they want to get rid fo Plymouth for exampleNov 02 20:01
sebsebseband let LightDM be used insteadNov 02 20:01
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iophk_Goblin: what is the consensus over there on Diaspora about it?Nov 02 20:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] this is why we need range voting..Nov 02 20:05
_Gobliniophk: It was a more general conversation about Banshee and ergo Mono....the consensus is that Banshee is slow and buggy...(in my view)Nov 02 20:06
_Goblinand it offers no advantage at allNov 02 20:06
iophkIt should be replaced by Clementine for the LTS. IMHONov 02 20:07
_GoblinYou not on Diaspora?Nov 02 20:07
_Goblinyou should beNov 02 20:07
iophkMicroblogging is not my thing.Nov 02 20:07
_Goblinits not "micro"Nov 02 20:08
_GoblinEven Roy has been impressed with DiasporaNov 02 20:08
schestowitzHe is :-)Nov 02 20:08
schestowitzjust came inNov 02 20:08
_Goblin:)Nov 02 20:08
schestowitzno idea what was talked about...Nov 02 20:08
schestowitzas swimming :-)Nov 02 20:08
sebsebsebthere she is hello Miss Roy schestowitz :DNov 02 20:08
schestowitzMiss?Nov 02 20:08
schestowitzBTWNov 02 20:09
_GoblinIm just trying to get another new member of DiasporaNov 02 20:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] still open last I checked.Nov 02 20:09
schestowitzJust met this girl an hour ago at the spa pool :-)Nov 02 20:09
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_Goblin:)Nov 02 20:09
sebsebsebschestowitz: ok she might become Mrs schestowitzNov 02 20:09
_Goblin...prepare for quotation in COLA...Nov 02 20:09
sebsebseb_Goblin: hehNov 02 20:09
schestowitz_Goblin: it's funnyNov 02 20:09
schestowitzwhen they doNov 02 20:09
schestowitzwhen they do thatNov 02 20:10
schestowitzLet's feed them thenNov 02 20:10
sebsebsebschestowitz: anyway I was joking obvoulsy with the Miss thing :DNov 02 20:10
_GoblinThey spend their lives trawling this channel for things to post about...Nov 02 20:10
schestowitzI met a girl called Caroline at the spa pool. She is quite attractive, reminds me of this girl called Astrid I once clubbed with and kept in touch with (dancer's physique, nice face, blond hair). I got her telephone number, she was really nice to me. Nov 02 20:10
schestowitzNeedless to say, the guys at the gym were jealous :-)Nov 02 20:10
_Goblinand of course Roy, you are their favourite person....they are quite besotted.Nov 02 20:10
schestowitzActually, it's interesting that she's called Caroline. In 1998 I met this girl named Carolyn from London. We met in Turkey and snogged, a couple of years later I slept with a girl called Caroline (from Lancaster) and a few months back this girl from the nearby building joined me while I was tanning outside. Her name was Karolina and she was Polish.Nov 02 20:11
schestowitzNow the trolls will quote meNov 02 20:11
schestowitzWhich they canNov 02 20:11
schestowitzI would not mindNov 02 20:11
_GoblinWill she give you as much attention as the COLA trolls though? They've had feelings for you for years.Nov 02 20:11
schestowitz:-pNov 02 20:11
schestowitzI don't go for dudesNov 02 20:11
schestowitzI think the trolls are all dudesNov 02 20:11
_GoblinBut in the usenet world, I'm sure they'll be anything you want them to be.Nov 02 20:12
schestowitzThere's also a Karolina Schestowitz, but that was a century agoNov 02 20:12
_GoblinI remember flatfish wanting to be female and trying to convince people he was.Nov 02 20:13
sebsebsebschestowitz: You were married?Nov 02 20:13
schestowitznoNov 02 20:13
schestowitzancestorNov 02 20:13
_Goblinthat would make Roy rather oldNov 02 20:13
sebsebsebschestowitz: ah okNov 02 20:13
sebsebseb_Goblin: depends how the word century was usedNov 02 20:13
_Goblinunless hes like the highlander and immortalNov 02 20:13
schestowitzWhat else can it mean?Nov 02 20:13
schestowitz[19:14] <_Goblin> schestowitz: Up for a recording...I think I can manage in about an hour!Nov 02 20:14
schestowitzHey, I'm ready for that tooNov 02 20:14
schestowitzAny timeNov 02 20:14
_GoblincoolNov 02 20:14
_GoblinI was wondering.....Nov 02 20:14
_Goblinjust give me a few mins to sort things outNov 02 20:14
_Goblin(let the wife know)Nov 02 20:14
schestowitzcoolNov 02 20:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] NASA developing tractor beam http://identi.ca/url/56345232 !scienceNov 02 20:17
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iophkgtgNov 02 20:18
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/joaoaraujobr/statuses/131771940934385664Nov 02 20:18
TechrightsBot-tr@joaoaraujobr: RT @dicasl: Apple Exploits Free Software, Then Bans Free Software and Also Bans Competition http://t.co/ysQYDPUsNov 02 20:18
TechrightsBot-tr@: Nov 02 20:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Humans ventured as far as Torquay more than 40,000 years ago - http://bit.ly/ti5RID with a bucket & spade?Nov 02 20:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Humans ventured as far as Torquay more than 40,000 years ago | Science | The Guardian .::. Size~: 114.94 KBNov 02 20:40
schestowitzMark Shuttleworth on tabletNov 02 20:46
schestowitzUnityNov 02 20:46
schestowitzApple, Microsoft - patent dealsNov 02 20:46
schestowitzKDE, TrinityNov 02 20:46
schestowitz      "Barcelona" by Giulia y los TellariniNov 02 20:46
schestowitzDisaporaNov 02 20:46
schestowitzFacebookNov 02 20:46
schestowitzfor techbytes ^^Nov 02 20:46
schestowitz:-)Nov 02 20:46
schestowitzanything else?Nov 02 20:46
DaemonFCUnity might be alright on a tabletNov 02 20:48
DaemonFCit has a very tablet-ish UINov 02 20:48
DaemonFCto the exclusion of being useful on a PCNov 02 20:49
DaemonFCI don't buy the nonsense that the desktop PC or real laptops are in danger of being fully replacedNov 02 20:49
DaemonFCtheir numbers may declineNov 02 20:49
DaemonFCbut the main reason for targeting mobile stuff is because Windows doesn't have a stranglehold thereNov 02 20:49
DaemonFCit's a battle that can still be wonNov 02 20:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] supernatural is awesome :DNov 02 21:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] But still asks me to re enter the kwallet password again and again :(Nov 02 21:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] Don't forget -- time is running out for nominations for the !FSF free software awards -- http://ur1.ca/5asa1 !gnu !lpNov 02 21:29
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DaemonFC[17:32] <Tonurics> It is one area where Windows tends to have a leg up on KDE, Gnome and XFCE, unified keyboard shortcutsNov 02 21:35
DaemonFC[17:33] <DaemonFC> that's like saying at least the French know how to make a good coffeeNov 02 21:35
DaemonFC[17:33] <DaemonFC> B-)Nov 02 21:35
MinceRi wonder how they "unify" keyboard shortcuts among applications that don't do thatNov 02 21:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'm very disgruntled by the New Google Reader. There are a lot of reasons for my annoyance, but top of the list is the ... http://b1t.it/OAaNov 02 21:54
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MinceRgnNov 02 22:02
schestowitz_Goblin: I'll mail you what we agreed on :-)Nov 02 22:16
_Goblinyep npNov 02 22:17
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schestowitz_Goblin: you got mail :-)Nov 02 22:30
_Goblinright!Nov 02 22:30
schestowitzI'm encoding the showNov 02 22:31
schestowitzit'll be fast this timeNov 02 22:31
schestowitzonly4 channels (into, track, outro, chatNov 02 22:31
schestowitzand less than 2 hoursNov 02 22:31
schestowitzmight be ready tonight if I don't fall asleep on this couchNov 02 22:31
schestowitzI'll get blogging nowNov 02 22:31
schestowitzI wrote 5 posts in the gym todayNov 02 22:31
schestowitzoh, disapora emails are backNov 02 22:32
schestowitzThey were down for over a dayNov 02 22:32
schestowitzno email notificationsNov 02 22:32
schestowitzwow, it takes just 40 minutes to encodeNov 02 22:32
schestowitzlike a third of the usual durationNov 02 22:33
schestowitzso yeah... might be ready tonight just after midnightNov 02 22:33
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sebsebseb_Goblin: schestowitz about time I listended to the Steve Jobs episode so doing that now :DNov 02 22:44
schestowitzThis was a special ep about the one-year milestone, we can do a mageia one too if _Goblin agreesNov 02 22:48
sebsebsebschestowitz: uh what was a speical ep about the one year milestone of what? Mageia?Nov 02 22:49
sebsebsebuh?Nov 02 22:49
sebsebsebschestowitz: yep the Mageia episode will be with that founderNov 02 22:50
sebsebseb,but I think best to do that in December after alpha 1 :DNov 02 22:50
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sebsebsebplus he can't really do it untill that timeNov 02 22:50
sebsebsebalso XFaCE wants to come on in December it seems with me to talk about stuff :DNov 02 22:50
sebsebsebhi XFaCENov 02 22:50
XFaCEhiNov 02 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] is there any actual advantage to that? They can still see the url...Nov 02 22:52
schestowitz_Goblin: my next post is about.. you and monoNov 02 22:56
sebsebsebXFaCE: When we go on Techbytes, what you going to talk about?Nov 02 22:56
XFaCEsebsebseb: The miracle of the modern screwdriver.Nov 02 22:57
schestowitzThe tchrigfts sevrer is flooded at the momentNov 02 22:57
schestowitznot sure why, didn't publish anything todayNov 02 22:57
sebsebsebschestowitz: attemtped DNS attack?Nov 02 22:57
schestowitzNoNov 02 22:59
schestowitzNot DDOS eitherNov 02 22:59
schestowitzI reckon maybe some search engine out of control or maybe slahsdotting or somehtingNov 02 23:00
schestowitzwe don't have tools for analysing logs, so I don't knowNov 02 23:00
sebsebsebschestowitz: DNS attack was a joke :DNov 02 23:02
sebsebsebDDOS I meant yeahNov 02 23:02
schestowitzDNS poisoning?Nov 02 23:08
schestowitznot an attack on usNov 02 23:08
schestowitzwe don't operate a dns serverNov 02 23:08
sebsebsebDDOSNov 02 23:11
XFaCEsebsebseb: Seriously though, I'll probably chip in when I can.Nov 02 23:17
sebsebsebXFaCE: I was thinking like December 14th to like end of December some time then maybe?Nov 02 23:18
sebsebsebplus got this Mageia guy to get things arranged with :DNov 02 23:18
sebsebsebfor another episode, him, schestowitz _Goblin and me :DNov 02 23:19
sebsebseb,but that won't be untill probably December as well I guess by earlest or whateverNov 02 23:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Choqok has made me look at opendesktop.org (seems to be one of the newly supported protocols)Nov 02 23:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Sir Alex Ferguson - 25 years: 'You can't win anything with kids' http://ur1.ca/5lk1g #MUFCNov 02 23:23
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_Goblinschestowitz: You use Kubuntu...... have you had any issue with dual monitors? I ask because someone is asking over on DIaspora...Nov 02 23:30
schestowitzworks like a charmNov 02 23:31
schestowitzthere are also GUIs for thatNov 02 23:31
_Goblincool...Nov 02 23:31
_GoblinI'm not sure which distro he tried and when but he had some issues with 2 monitors.#Nov 02 23:32
schestowitzdid you get a GPU that supports it?Nov 02 23:32
schestowitzIf not, I know what to buy you for xmas... I might come down to London this monthNov 02 23:32
_Goblinnot sure... about his GPU....Nov 02 23:36
_Goblinits a chap who has commented on one of my posts.Nov 02 23:36
_Goblinwhat ver again? 10.10 or 10.04......I can't remember which one you said on the showNov 02 23:38
schestowitzwhat gpu does he haveNov 02 23:43
schestowitzhe can check compat on phoronixNov 02 23:44
schestowitzit's excellent for thatNov 02 23:44
schestowitzthey also have forums and irc channelNov 02 23:44
_GoblinI think maybe he just had a bad distro....I'm waiting to see which distro he tried.Nov 02 23:48
_GoblinI get the feeling that the distro might have been............Nov 02 23:48
_GoblinWindows ;)Nov 02 23:48
schestowitz_Goblin: uploading video versions nowNov 02 23:48
schestowitzso some are already availableNov 02 23:49
_GoblinOff topic....:Nov 02 23:52
_GoblinIf I see that Steve Jobs biography cover one more time, I'll...I'll....Nov 02 23:52
_Goblinits everywhere....everywhere I look I see that silly pose looking back at me...Nov 02 23:53
_Goblinwhy did they have to use that photo?Nov 02 23:53
sebsebseb_Goblin: KDE is geek to customise yesNov 02 23:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] India Wants UN Body To Run The Internet: Would That Be Such A Bad Thing? http://ur1.ca/5lkav... http://b1t.it/ODtNov 02 23:55
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sebsebseb_Goblin: listening to Techbytes Episode 63Nov 02 23:55
sebsebseb_Goblin: and yeah you can't just right click on stuff like Gnome and change stuffNov 02 23:56
sebsebsebor move stuffNov 02 23:56
_GoblinI'll tell you what though...Nov 02 23:56
_Goblinnow I'm used to it, I'd probably struggle going back to GnomeNov 02 23:56
_Goblinstrange how quickly humans adapt....Nov 02 23:56
sebsebseb_Goblin: well yeah get used to it a bit, but I never got used to customising it, always got in a messNov 02 23:57
sebsebsebunless it was the screensaver or slide show, but had to find that stuff as wellNov 02 23:57
_Goblinthe taskbar especially....they need to sort that out....Nov 02 23:57
_Goblinfought for hours with that.Nov 02 23:57
sebsebseb_Goblin: and if I try and move anything on the bar at the bottom, it doesn't go where I would wantNov 02 23:57
_GoblinI just wish I'd used right justify in the beginning rather than confusing the issue with spacers.Nov 02 23:58
_Goblinits all sorted now thoughNov 02 23:58
sebsebsebalso schestowitz has said how KDE is not that easy to customise,  pretty sure he did in episdoe 61 as wellNov 02 23:58
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_Goblinits not that its hard, its merely that it doesn't put things in accessible places or in places where you would expect.Nov 02 23:58
sebsebseb_Goblin: indeed I guessNov 02 23:59
sebsebsebexactly you got to learn how to do stuffNov 02 23:59
sebsebsebit's not jus how you would expectNov 02 23:59
sebsebsebhence why I say it's geek to customiseNov 02 23:59
_Goblinthe latest thing I found was to keep a window on top, you find that feature in "advanced features"....since when has that been an advanced feature?Nov 02 23:59
sebsebsebohNov 02 23:59
sebsebsebwith Gnome 2 you just right click and say always on topNov 02 23:59

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