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| _Goblin | I must be super l33t then because I always use that feature. | Nov 03 00:00 |
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| _Goblin | yep | Nov 03 00:00 |
| _Goblin | and that makes sense... | Nov 03 00:00 |
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| sebsebseb | yep | Nov 03 00:00 |
| sebsebseb | indeed | Nov 03 00:00 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: and in Gnome Shell you don't really need to do stuff like that | Nov 03 00:00 |
| sebsebseb | or actsauly might want to soetimes | Nov 03 00:01 |
| sebsebseb | anwyay I do with my old Gnome Shell preivew, some times, but that goes on top of Gnome 2 as well | Nov 03 00:01 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: Power user advanced user stuff, is great in that episode as well | Nov 03 00:03 |
| sebsebseb | still listening | Nov 03 00:03 |
| sebsebseb | (with pauseing for a bit earlier, and some re winding here and there) | Nov 03 00:04 |
| _Goblin | I love the term power user. | Nov 03 00:06 |
| _Goblin | sort of implies God like status | Nov 03 00:06 |
| _Goblin | "By the power of Linux.............I have the power" | Nov 03 00:06 |
| _Goblin | (for those who remember He-Man) | Nov 03 00:06 |
| sebsebseb | He-Man ?? | Nov 03 00:07 |
| sebsebseb | what's that some TV show or film? | Nov 03 00:07 |
| _Goblin | cartoon from the 80's | Nov 03 00:07 |
| _Goblin | there was a film | Nov 03 00:07 |
| sebsebseb | anyway here's the thing, there are Windows Power Users as well for example | Nov 03 00:07 |
| _Goblin | I think early 90's | Nov 03 00:07 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: oh something about Clemetine now | Nov 03 00:09 |
| sebsebseb | been using that for a long time now | Nov 03 00:09 |
| sebsebseb | over a year | Nov 03 00:09 |
| sebsebseb | love that player | Nov 03 00:09 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: how it looks | Nov 03 00:10 |
| sebsebseb | how you see the audio play | Nov 03 00:10 |
| _Goblin | ahh | Nov 03 00:10 |
| _Goblin | Celementime | Nov 03 00:10 |
| sebsebseb | how the icon is a clementine when it's playing and you get more white space as it's near the end and all that | Nov 03 00:10 |
| _Goblin | a well and truly rotten piece of fruit | Nov 03 00:10 |
| _Goblin | with pips | Nov 03 00:10 |
| sebsebseb | I like Clemetines's, but prefer satsumas | Nov 03 00:11 |
| schestowitz | episode almost released now | Nov 03 00:11 |
| schestowitz | uploading ogg in a moment (last one) | Nov 03 00:11 |
| _Goblin | :) | Nov 03 00:11 |
| _Goblin | wow..! | Nov 03 00:11 |
| schestowitz | the youtube version is up | Nov 03 00:11 |
| _Goblin | youre on form tonight! | Nov 03 00:12 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Nov 03 00:12 |
| schestowitz | and I bloged too | Nov 03 00:12 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Nov 03 00:12 |
| schestowitz | *gg | Nov 03 00:12 |
| sebsebseb | gg ???? | Nov 03 00:12 |
| sebsebseb | good game | Nov 03 00:12 |
| sebsebseb | ? | Nov 03 00:12 |
| schestowitz | blogged | Nov 03 00:12 |
| _Goblin | I finished a Space Marine with Ultra Marine colours...does that count too? | Nov 03 00:12 |
| sebsebseb | ah right yeah the other g | Nov 03 00:12 |
| schestowitz | Space Marines? | Nov 03 00:12 |
| _Goblin | you didn't see my Diaspora post? Shame on you!!!!!!!!!!!!! | Nov 03 00:13 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC has been playing some game recently and raving about killing people (in a game) | Nov 03 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | now there's a turret, a mortar, and 164 riflemen hid behind my command center | Nov 03 00:13 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: didn't spent much time at home since 4 | Nov 03 00:13 |
| _Goblin | I'm talking about painting a Space Marine figure. | Nov 03 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | which is behind a mine field | Nov 03 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | anyone that decides to attack will land all their units on shaped charges while being fired at by a bunch of stuff they can't target | Nov 03 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Nov 03 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | until they destroy the command center, which has a lot of HP | Nov 03 00:13 |
| _Goblin | Unless of course they come in by air | Nov 03 00:13 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC is stockpiling arms | Nov 03 00:14 |
| schestowitz | only 25 ish and already two firearms | Nov 03 00:14 |
| _Goblin | or have sniper rifles | Nov 03 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | and chances are they won't have enough units left from the mines and initial salvo to do that | Nov 03 00:14 |
| schestowitz | and one pussy | Nov 03 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | 27 | Nov 03 00:14 |
| schestowitz | Jabbathe cat is 27 | Nov 03 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | and a big hairy pussy that got groomed today | Nov 03 00:14 |
| schestowitz | maybe 27 pounds | Nov 03 00:14 |
| schestowitz | did Dawn shave your cat? | Nov 03 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | nope | Nov 03 00:15 |
| schestowitz | Sexy shaving | Nov 03 00:15 |
| schestowitz | Dawn, room 403 | Nov 03 00:15 |
| _Goblin | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/724965 | Nov 03 00:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 03 00:15 |
| schestowitz | "Next to the gay guy with 2 rifles and a cat" :-) | Nov 03 00:15 |
| schestowitz | well, guns/pistols | Nov 03 00:15 |
| schestowitz | with two guns you can makem a pact with jabba | Nov 03 00:16 |
| schestowitz | you both go at the same time | Nov 03 00:16 |
| _Goblin | I'd rather have a chainsword | Nov 03 00:16 |
| _Goblin | and a bolter... | Nov 03 00:16 |
| _Goblin | "We march for Macgragg" | Nov 03 00:16 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: _Goblin that second song in Episode 63, is differnet, like that, but sounds like something that could be in a Disney movie or something like that | Nov 03 00:19 |
| schestowitz | which is it? | Nov 03 00:20 |
| sebsebseb | don't know | Nov 03 00:20 |
| schestowitz | I can't recall without knowing the name | Nov 03 00:20 |
| schestowitz | check the show notes | Nov 03 00:20 |
| schestowitz | today we used a Spanish song | Nov 03 00:20 |
| sebsebseb | sort of jazz or something as well a bit of maybe | Nov 03 00:20 |
| schestowitz | If it's jazz, it's _Goblin | Nov 03 00:20 |
| schestowitz | He's the jazz guy | Nov 03 00:20 |
| schestowitz | I'm all heavy death metal | Nov 03 00:20 |
| sebsebseb | well not jazz | Nov 03 00:20 |
| schestowitz | argghhhh!!! | Nov 03 00:20 |
| *schestowitz pumps his chest | Nov 03 00:20 | |
| sebsebseb | maybe is a bit sort of though I am saying I don't know | Nov 03 00:21 |
| sebsebseb | I mainly listen to meatl and rock these days :D | Nov 03 00:21 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: you linked to something like Nightwish on Identica not that long ago, liked that :D | Nov 03 00:21 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: I got a former MS employee interviewed for the tchrights site | Nov 03 00:21 |
| schestowitz | I'll publish it soon | Nov 03 00:21 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: oh interesting | Nov 03 00:22 |
| schestowitz | He is one who turned against MS after leaving | Nov 03 00:22 |
| schestowitz | their crimes | Nov 03 00:22 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Nov 03 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/2021/picture15oa.png | Nov 03 00:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Nov 03 00:23 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2011/11/02/techbytes-episode-65/ | Nov 03 00:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: TechBytes Episode 65: End of the Season | Techrights .::. Size~: 101.77 KB | Nov 03 00:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Cell-Aging Hack Opens Longevity Research Frontier http://identi.ca/url/56348950 !science | Nov 03 00:35 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cell-Aging Hack Opens Longevity Research Frontier | Wired Science | Wired.com .::. Size~: 67.16 KB | Nov 03 00:35 |
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| XFaCE | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqtfpu5ziok | Nov 03 00:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Nature of Things: Happy 50th Anniversary! - YouTube .::. Size~: 98.26 KB | Nov 03 00:42 |
| XFaCE | very enlightening. We need more TV like this. | Nov 03 00:42 |
| XFaCE | (schestowitz) | Nov 03 00:43 |
| schestowitz | can't read right now.. busy.. :0( | Nov 03 00:43 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Well,watch actually, but no prob | Nov 03 00:44 |
| XFaCE | how about you sebsebseb? | Nov 03 00:45 |
| XFaCE | or msb_? | Nov 03 00:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Trinity Demonstrated the Important of Software Freedom http://ur1.ca/5l1i1 #kde | Nov 03 00:45 | |
| schestowitz | in a moment | Nov 03 00:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] Trinity Does New Release To Let KDE 3.5 Live Om .::. Size~: 16.93 KB | Nov 03 00:45 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Are you thinking of using Trinity? | Nov 03 00:45 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: listneing to Techbytes Episode 63 and quite enjoying it | Nov 03 00:45 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/722938 "Not with *nix, it just needs /etc/rc.d/network restart" | Nov 03 00:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 03 00:45 |
| schestowitz | heh | Nov 03 00:45 |
| schestowitz | "So AppleCare fixed poor reception and grip of death issues? Or was that the rubber case they sent out?" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/723324 | Nov 03 00:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 03 00:46 |
| _Goblin | sebsebseb: Yeah..re: Nightwish type band...good track that....shame its not CC | Nov 03 00:46 |
| schestowitz | "You're holding it wrong. Hold different[sic]." | Nov 03 00:46 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: is Youtube mean to have all these propritary music vidoes on it really? | Nov 03 00:47 |
| schestowitz | ok, i found an issue | Nov 03 00:47 |
| schestowitz | identica still does not post reliably | Nov 03 00:47 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Identica still has five days of dents all gone :( | Nov 03 00:47 |
| _Goblin | sebsebseb: No....but that particular song is. | Nov 03 00:47 |
| _Goblin | *not CC | Nov 03 00:47 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: so I got two or so Mageia dents to re do, when I bother, well I could not bother to do that, but I will | Nov 03 00:48 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Appendix for "Mono Bug Persists in Ubuntu GNU/Linux" - Xubuntu (and I think Kubuntu) do not have Mono. I think it is important to note that the official derivatives are not following this aspect. | Nov 03 00:48 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84863974 http://identi.ca/notice/84864035 http://identi.ca/notice/84863751 http://identi.ca/notice/84863745 http://identi.ca/notice/84863727 | Nov 03 00:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 03-Nov-11 00:36:35 UTC - Identi.ca: New Release of KDE Today http://ur1.ca/5lgcm #kde | Nov 03 00:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: KDE - KDE's November Updates Improve Nepomuk Stability .::. Size~: 20.13 KB | Nov 03 00:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 03-Nov-11 00:39:11 UTC - Identi.ca: Two decades of productivity: Vim's 20th anniversary http://is.gd/MdTbVi #vim #linux #unix | Nov 03 00:49 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 03-Nov-11 00:27:49 UTC - Identi.ca: Mono Bug Persists in #Ubuntu GNU/Linux http://ur1.ca/5lklg #mono #gnu #linux | Nov 03 00:49 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 03-Nov-11 00:27:38 UTC - Identi.ca: New Flaws in #Windows Kernel and the Borderline Impossibility of Post Mortems http://ur1.ca/5lkla #kernel | Nov 03 00:49 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 03-Nov-11 00:26:20 UTC - Identi.ca: TechBytes Episode 65: End of the Season http://ur1.ca/5lkkz #techbytes | Nov 03 00:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: TechBytes Episode 65: End of the Season | Techrights .::. Size~: 101.77 KB | Nov 03 00:49 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: WHy don't; you send to the !Techbytes group? | Nov 03 00:49 |
| schestowitz | I don't use groups mucn anymore | Nov 03 00:49 |
| schestowitz | can you send it there please/ | Nov 03 00:49 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: I have not had a posting problem. In fact, I've successfully deleted and reposted things | Nov 03 00:50 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: also sending to group won't send to tag as wel. well you tell people to subscribe to the Techbytes group and such on the sites for it | Nov 03 00:50 |
| sebsebseb | so should send to the group | Nov 03 00:50 |
| sebsebseb | I would send to both | Nov 03 00:50 |
| sebsebseb | you should !group and #tag it now really | Nov 03 00:50 |
| schestowitz | I think a lot of the community left identica anyway | Nov 03 00:50 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: yeah seems like it doesn't it? | Nov 03 00:50 |
| schestowitz | group andn tag don't work well when passed to twitter | Nov 03 00:50 |
| schestowitz | it makes duplicate tags | Nov 03 00:51 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Nov 03 00:51 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: I still maintain that I have not run into problems. Then again, you are probably using more features than I am. | Nov 03 00:52 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: or get the techbytes/techrights account to send to the techbytes group? or something like that | Nov 03 00:52 |
| schestowitz | maybe tomorrow | Nov 03 00:52 |
| schestowitz | I'm getting too tired, but it's too early for bed because of sunrise time | Nov 03 00:52 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: anyway I like that how less stuff appears in my time line now | Nov 03 00:52 |
| sebsebseb | easier to go through stuff | Nov 03 00:52 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: manly use Identica to get onto news | Nov 03 00:52 |
| schestowitz | you could subscribe to more people | Nov 03 00:53 |
| XFaCE | sebsebseb: referring to conversation grouping? | Nov 03 00:53 |
| schestowitz | I used to read all my timeline until March | Nov 03 00:53 |
| sebsebseb | and mainly getting onto stuff from you, glynmoody and sometimes Diablo-D3 even | Nov 03 00:53 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I was subscribed to more before | Nov 03 00:53 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: ,but kept on having my time line covered with stuff I wasn't interested in, so unsubscribed from stuff | Nov 03 00:53 |
| schestowitz | in Russia, group subscribe yYOU | Nov 03 00:53 |
| sebsebseb | still getting KDE stuff showing my time line since in that gorup still and Debian, but not really interested in those either | Nov 03 00:53 |
| sebsebseb | not so much into Fedora either, but still subscribed to that as well | Nov 03 00:54 |
| sebsebseb | get rid of those though, and I think my time line woudn't be that active at all anymore really | Nov 03 00:54 |
| sebsebseb | I don't really care much about KDE | Nov 03 00:54 |
| sebsebseb | I'll use it sometimes, and some of the apps with Gnome or whatever, but yeah that's about it really | Nov 03 00:54 |
| sebsebseb | ,but I do end up reading KDE stuff here and there | Nov 03 00:54 |
| sebsebseb | mainly since Identica yeah | Nov 03 00:55 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Booooo. | Nov 03 00:55 |
| schestowitz | http://www.internetnews.com/blog/skerner/ubuntu-one-for-windows-bringing-new-users-to-linux.html | Nov 03 00:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu One for Windows Bringing new users to Linux? - InternetNews. .::. Size~: 32.1 KB | Nov 03 00:55 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: apparnatly that has yeah | Nov 03 00:56 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: That's a good and bad thing for sure. | Nov 03 00:56 |
| schestowitz | fo sho | Nov 03 00:56 |
| XFaCE | I wouldn't want the main reason people are switching to one distro is because of a cloud service | Nov 03 00:56 |
| XFaCE | Then again, I guess that's the same deal with Android adoption. :P | Nov 03 00:57 |
| schestowitz | it's not a cloud | Nov 03 00:57 |
| schestowitz | a cloud is a concentration of vapour | Nov 03 00:57 |
| schestowitz | in a state of condensationalmost | Nov 03 00:57 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu One is a pythoin app IIRC | Nov 03 00:57 |
| schestowitz | Which helps your PC do what it already can | Nov 03 00:58 |
| XFaCE | Sorry, "cloud" service | Nov 03 00:58 |
| XFaCE | In fact, my textbook admits that cloud is just another way for saying "internet" | Nov 03 00:58 |
| XFaCE | :) | Nov 03 00:58 |
| schestowitz | but on another person's PC -- someone whom you don't know and doesn't know you either (unless s/he peers into the files) | Nov 03 00:58 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: I have a free cloud offer | Nov 03 00:59 |
| schestowitz | scp me | Nov 03 00:59 |
| schestowitz | I'll create an account for you | Nov 03 00:59 |
| schestowitz | and a homedir | Nov 03 00:59 |
| schestowitz | and will make you a password | Nov 03 00:59 |
| schestowitz | pass me any files you need backed up | Nov 03 00:59 |
| schestowitz | for free, I promise, shonuff | Nov 03 00:59 |
| schestowitz | "trust me!" | Nov 03 00:59 |
| schestowitz | I won't look into them, even though I'll pass you some form you sign and it says I'm generally allowed | Nov 03 01:00 |
| schestowitz | the files may be deleted, but it's likely I'll keep them all in tact | Nov 03 01:00 |
| schestowitz | and I might start charging you because, you know, we're "just a business" | Nov 03 01:00 |
| schestowitz | welcome to my cloud | Nov 03 01:00 |
| schestowitz | the sink is on the left, the chains are on your foot | Nov 03 01:01 |
| riddic-ArmBox | XFaCE: don't worry .. even if schestowitz would look at the files, it's just to get to know you better ;) | Nov 03 01:01 |
| schestowitz | I can defend him | Nov 03 01:01 |
| schestowitz | like , if he has illegal porn or learns how to make bombs | Nov 03 01:01 |
| schestowitz | I will tell him that and report him to someone who can help him | Nov 03 01:01 |
| riddic-ArmBox | now isn't that considerate | Nov 03 01:02 |
| schestowitz | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/unmasking-the-criminal-hacker/9712?tag=mantle_skin;content | Nov 03 01:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Unmasking the criminal hacker | ZDNet .::. Size~: 152.17 KB | Nov 03 01:02 |
| XFaCE | lol | Nov 03 01:03 |
| XFaCE | riddic-ArmBox: I think this is the first I've seen you "speak" | Nov 03 01:03 |
| riddic-ArmBox | quite possibly :) I do lurk mostly | Nov 03 01:04 |
| schestowitz | http://www.internetnews.com/blog/skerner/why-openmama-is-the-future-of-open-source.html | Nov 03 01:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why OpenMAMA is the Future of Open Source - InternetNews. .::. Size~: 32.73 KB | Nov 03 01:05 |
| schestowitz | MA MA MA MA.... | Nov 03 01:05 |
| schestowitz | Pa pa pa poker face, pa pa poker face... | Nov 03 01:05 |
| schestowitz | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAwOTk | Nov 03 01:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] Trinity Does New Release To Let KDE 3.5 Live Om .::. Size~: 16.92 KB | Nov 03 01:07 |
| schestowitz | Live OM | Nov 03 01:07 |
| schestowitz | Oh mama! | Nov 03 01:07 |
| riddic-ArmBox | ugh... kde 3.5? really? | Nov 03 01:09 |
| schestowitz | cubefc1 uses it | Nov 03 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?64422-Trinity-Does-New-Release-To-Let-KDE-3.5-Live-Om&p=236631#post236631 | Nov 03 01:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Trinity Does New Release To Let KDE 3.5 Live Om .::. Size~: 71.37 KB | Nov 03 01:12 |
| DaemonFC | you're too late | Nov 03 01:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] RT @john Yet another reason to avoid Apple: some iOS apps block use of an external display. Telling me how I can *look* at software? Wow ... | Nov 03 01:13 | |
| riddic-ArmBox | hmm ... I still don't quite get it. I mean, wouldn't xfce not be a better (and still maintained) alternative? | Nov 03 01:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @mediagoblin: #GNU MediaGoblin 0.1.0 "Living the Dream" released! http://ur1.ca/5ld8k And a whole new http://mediagoblin.org/ | Nov 03 01:15 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: MediaGoblin:: GNU MediaGoblin .::. Size~: 8.4 KB | Nov 03 01:15 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.opengl.org/registry/specs/NV/fog_distance.txt | Nov 03 01:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting text/plain type | Nov 03 01:48 |
| DaemonFC | finally supported in Mesa | Nov 03 01:48 |
| DaemonFC | Enemy Territory can use it | Nov 03 01:49 |
| schestowitz | don't give me ideas... | Nov 03 01:49 |
| schestowitz | I quit that game | Nov 03 01:49 |
| schestowitz | Twice.. :-) | Nov 03 01:49 |
| msb__ | Does xfce give you 20 named virtual desktops, a nice compact desktop pager showing the names, and maintains the window setups in each of the desktops across sessions? | Nov 03 01:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | it can, actually | Nov 03 01:52 |
| msb__ | Adjustable multi-row taskbar? | Nov 03 01:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | yes | Nov 03 01:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | xfce uses a panel that just holds widgets, both the virtual desktop switcher and the pager are widgets | Nov 03 01:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | oh, and the pager now supports being set sideways on sideways panels | Nov 03 01:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | so sideways text | Nov 03 01:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | or no text if you wanna do it osx dock style | Nov 03 01:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | and it can list windows either per desktop or on all desktops | Nov 03 01:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | msb__: I use xfce more straight forward though | Nov 03 01:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | single panel in a windows orientation with the desktop pager on the far left before the "start' button | Nov 03 01:54 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84865125 | Nov 03 01:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 03-Nov-11 01:32:25 UTC - Identi.ca: In the Back Seat With Linux http://is.gd/YrEv7O #linux | Nov 03 01:54 |
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| Diablo-D3 | s/pager/switcher/ | Nov 03 01:54 |
| msb__ | What's the difference between the virtual desktop switcher and the pager? I thought those are two different names for the same thing. | Nov 03 01:54 |
| msb__ | Oops, now I'm really confused! 8^) | Nov 03 01:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | msb__: "workspace switcher" and "window buttons aka windows list" | Nov 03 01:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | msb__: xfce is extremely configurable | Nov 03 01:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | it may not be what you want when you first start it, but you can make it do almost anything | Nov 03 01:56 |
| XFaCE | beating "anti-piracy" judge admits to crime http://www.kztv10.com/news/judge-william-adams-responds-to-videotaped-beating/ | Nov 03 01:57 |
| msb__ | Windows list shows all windows in all desktops? | Nov 03 01:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Judge William Adams Responds To Videotaped Beating | Corpus Christi, TX | KZTV10.com | .::. Size~: 61.67 KB | Nov 03 01:58 |
| XFaCE | I put "anti-piracy" in quotes because he technically has nothing to do with copyright cases AFAIK, but copyright infringement was a clear factor in the sick shit that he did | Nov 03 01:58 |
| DaemonFC | I keep saying she got off eay | Nov 03 01:58 |
| DaemonFC | if the RIAA's lawyers got ahold of her, they'd have done worse | Nov 03 01:58 |
| DaemonFC | *easy | Nov 03 01:58 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 03 01:58 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: WE SUE YOU A BILLIONY DOLLRS? | Nov 03 02:00 |
| XFaCE | Or maybe they slash the cost to a reasonable 1995 per song | Nov 03 02:00 |
| DaemonFC | Oh don't piss off the judge, he'll lay the smack down just because.....you start out stealing music, then you're robbing liquor stores, he'll beat you like little 12 year old whore, you are...... GET THE BELT!!!! | Nov 03 02:01 |
| DaemonFC | I SAID, GET MAH BELT!!! | Nov 03 02:01 |
| XFaCE | msb_: XFCE is awesome. | Nov 03 02:01 |
| XFaCE | msb__: It's the IKEA of DEs | Nov 03 02:01 |
| XFaCE | Whatever that means | Nov 03 02:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats... horrible. | Nov 03 02:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | msb__: windows list CAN do it | Nov 03 02:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | msb__: it can sort windows, it can group then, it can show them from all workspaces or just this one, it can show it from all monitors or just this one, it can show minimized only | Nov 03 02:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | msb__: the desktop can also show minimized app icons for win 3.1 hot action | Nov 03 02:03 |
| XFaCE | riddic-ArmBox: I don't know. KDE 3 was the first DE I actually used. (Fluxbox/JWM don't count) and was quite impressed with it. It seemed to have a nice balance | Nov 03 02:03 |
| XFaCE | XFaCE: It's like the first-generation Golf from the 70s-80s they still produce and sell in South Africa | Nov 03 02:03 |
| XFaCE | Diablo-D3: Lol. | Nov 03 02:04 |
| *XFaCE prepares for a "fucking" statement. | Nov 03 02:04 | |
| DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fucking,_Austria | Nov 03 02:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Fucking, Austria - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 70.92 KB | Nov 03 02:05 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: You're doing it wrong. | Nov 03 02:05 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I SAID, ring me bell | Nov 03 02:05 |
| DaemonFC | Fucking (German pronunciation: [ˈfʊkɪŋ], rhymes with "booking"[2]) is an Austrian village[3] in the municipality of Tarsdorf,[4] in the Innviertel region of western Upper Austria. The village is 33 kilometres (21 mi) north of Salzburg, 4 kilometres (2.5 mi) east of the German border. | Nov 03 02:05 |
| DaemonFC | I heard that people keep stealing their Fucking sign | Nov 03 02:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | msb__: Ive seen people make osx dock-esque desktops, windows desktops, gnome extra fucking desktops | Nov 03 02:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | msb__: sideways oriented ones | Nov 03 02:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | and even a fully osx one, complete with the gtk menubar at the top using a patched gtk | Nov 03 02:07 |
| schestowitz | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2056582/Judge-William-Adams-beats-disabled-daughter-Hillary-16-YouTube-video.html | Nov 03 02:08 |
| msb__ | I guess I gotta try it! | Nov 03 02:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Judge William Adams beats disabled daughter Hillary, 16, in YouTube video | Mail Online .::. Size~: 130.9 KB | Nov 03 02:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | msb__: xfce is the least shitty desktop | Nov 03 02:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | its almost a shame I make mine look like win2k | Nov 03 02:08 |
| schestowitz | at least she got some attention to her piano-playing skills | Nov 03 02:08 |
| schestowitz | and sympathy | Nov 03 02:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | but lets face it, win2k is the most minimal usable design without making it overly gay | Nov 03 02:08 |
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| Diablo-D3 | *cough*7 aero*cough* | Nov 03 02:08 |
| XFaCE | Diablo-D3: Sacrilege. You have no right to complain about my Ikdea comment. | Nov 03 02:09 |
| XFaCE | Diablo-D3: And now, Windows 95 was the most usable. | Nov 03 02:09 |
| XFaCE | *no | Nov 03 02:09 |
| XFaCE | lol | Nov 03 02:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | hurr | Nov 03 02:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | no, win2k is largely the best windows ever | Nov 03 02:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | compared to xp, vista, and 7, it had the least bloat | Nov 03 02:09 |
| XFaCE | That would be NT 4 which had the least bloat | Nov 03 02:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | compared to 98, it was a shitload faster and crashed far less | Nov 03 02:10 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84859033 | Nov 03 02:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Maxwell Draven (ravenman)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Nov-11 20:05:31 UTC - Identi.ca: Someone knows why https://mail.yahoo.com/ doesn't work with konqueror web browser? !kde !fsf !gnu !linux !archlinux | Nov 03 02:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Yahoo! Mail: The best web-based email! .::. Size~: 49.23 KB | Nov 03 02:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | nt 4 had really shitty dx support | Nov 03 02:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | so its automatically out of the running | Nov 03 02:10 |
| XFaCE | meh, opengl instead | Nov 03 02:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | except games dont use opengl | Nov 03 02:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | and lets face it, windows is for games. | Nov 03 02:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | its obviously not for real work | Nov 03 02:10 |
| XFaCE | Diablo-D3: Windows 2000 is probably the least worst post 2000 windows | Nov 03 02:11 |
| XFaCE | at least after the www.vorck.com/remove-ie.html process | Nov 03 02:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | meh, I never bothered removing it | Nov 03 02:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | because you cant | Nov 03 02:11 |
| XFaCE | Diablo-D3: of course you can | Nov 03 02:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | too many apps embedded an html widget which underneath was msie | Nov 03 02:11 |
| XFaCE | Diablo-D3: This guy bypassed that | Nov 03 02:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | but the thing is | Nov 03 02:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | it doesnt matter | Nov 03 02:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | dont like msie? just dont use it | Nov 03 02:12 |
| XFaCE | It's a shame he put so much volunteer work into Windows, solving Microsoft's mistakes | Nov 03 02:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | I never used it when I do my bi-yearly reboot into windows | Nov 03 02:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | so no one else should either | Nov 03 02:12 |
| XFaCE | well not now, 2000 is unsupported. | Nov 03 02:13 |
| XFaCE | Then again, you shouldn't really use Windows ever | Nov 03 02:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | like I said, bi-yearly reboot. | Nov 03 02:14 |
| XFaCE | here we go again | Nov 03 02:14 |
| XFaCE | Speaking of which, let's try out this question. | Nov 03 02:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | btw, you never asked why I reboot at all | Nov 03 02:15 |
| XFaCE | You have very complex reasons. I figure it's for good reason | Nov 03 02:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | $1200 self calibrating monitor, I periodically have to recalibrate it | Nov 03 02:16 |
| XFaCE | Wow, now that's funny | Nov 03 02:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | the software runs in wine, but it cant see the monitor | Nov 03 02:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | nor does it in vbox | Nov 03 02:16 |
| XFaCE | Diablo-D3: You could always used Linux Unified Kernel! Or go to the bathroom in your tower. | Nov 03 02:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | hurr. | Nov 03 02:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | no, its something about how it communicates | Nov 03 02:17 |
| XFaCE | !google hurr | Nov 03 02:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Hurr Durr Derp - All the Derp Durr Hurr that's fit to Derp | http://derp.memebase.com/ | Nov 03 02:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Urban Dictionary: hurr | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php%3Fterm%3Dhurr | Nov 03 02:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - HURR-DURR | http://hurr-durr.com/ | Nov 03 02:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Hurr - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurr | Nov 03 02:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | it uses the ddc aux channel | Nov 03 02:17 |
| XFaCE | wow, didn't expect that many specific results | Nov 03 02:17 |
| XFaCE | Funny, most "auto" monitors readjust for me regardess of OS | Nov 03 02:18 |
| XFaCE | And I've used Dell, LG, NEC, Samsung... | Nov 03 02:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | by self-calibrating, I mean it has a colorometer | Nov 03 02:18 |
| XFaCE | Ooohh, that calibration | Nov 03 02:18 |
| XFaCE | meh, who needs perfect colour anyway? | Nov 03 02:19 |
| XFaCE | Further, why does it need to be constant calibrated? What causes the color to go "out of sync" in the first place? | Nov 03 02:19 |
| XFaCE | *constantly in a figurative sense | Nov 03 02:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | because monitors change. | Nov 03 02:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | though the fun part with this one, the LUT is in the monitor :D | Nov 03 02:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | btw, its a wide gamut 8 bit IPS panel with a 12 bit LUT | Nov 03 02:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | so it _really_ needs calibrated for full usage | Nov 03 02:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | XFaCE: btw, you might not even notice it, but monitors DO change. | Nov 03 02:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | extremely slowly, but they do it. | Nov 03 02:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | like, the phosphors in the backlight do not age at the same rate and such | Nov 03 02:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | XFaCE: btw, its the same reason I keep OSX on my powerbok | Nov 03 02:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | *powerbook | Nov 03 02:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | so I can calibrate the display | Nov 03 02:23 |
| XFaCE | Diablo-D3: Makes sense. I can see why LEDs are so much better. | Nov 03 02:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | LEDs arent better | Nov 03 02:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | the backlight has to be able to produce 6500k white perfectly | Nov 03 02:24 |
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| DaemonFC | http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/11/02/2311212/no-windows-8-plot-to-lock-out-linux | Nov 03 02:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: No Windows 8 Plot To Lock Out Linux - Slashdot .::. Size~: 114.83 KB | Nov 03 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/11/11/02/2058241/nokia-hints-at-windows-8-tablets | Nov 03 02:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nokia Hints At Windows 8 Tablets - Slashdot .::. Size~: 105.69 KB | Nov 03 02:46 |
| DaemonFC | "A week later it emerged that Microsoft and Google had been competing for Nokia's affections — a bidding war that concluded with Microsoft agreeing to pay Nokia billions of dollars to help market and develop Windows phones. " | Nov 03 02:47 |
| DaemonFC | http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/11/02/158211/us-marshals-ordered-to-seize-righthaven-property | Nov 03 02:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: US Marshals Ordered To Seize Righthaven Property - Slashdot .::. Size~: 142.83 KB | Nov 03 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | nice | Nov 03 02:49 |
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| DaemonFC | http://blog.american.com/2011/11/how-mitch-daniels-anti-keynesian-policies-saved-indiana/ | Nov 03 03:06 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How Mitch Daniels’s anti-Keynesian policies saved Indiana « The Enterprise Blog .::. Size~: 238.35 KB | Nov 03 03:06 |
| DaemonFC | This is just a puff piece | Nov 03 03:06 |
| DaemonFC | Indiana was not broke when Daniels became governor | Nov 03 03:07 |
| DaemonFC | he raised state revenue by auctioning off 99 year leases to foreign companies for control of state assets | Nov 03 03:07 |
| DaemonFC | such as our toll roads | Nov 03 03:07 |
| DaemonFC | and prisons | Nov 03 03:07 |
| DaemonFC | and in the case of prisons, the state will obviously end up paying those companies back more than they bid for their privatization contract, so it amounts to a loan | Nov 03 03:08 |
| DaemonFC | even if they won't call it that | Nov 03 03:08 |
| DaemonFC | it's like saying you're in the black because you maxed out all your credit cards and took a payday advance | Nov 03 03:08 |
| msb__ | It gives the state a strong motive for keeping the prisons full. | Nov 03 03:08 |
| msb__ | The prisoners can be put to work and paid 50 cents/hour, and the profit paid to the foreign owners. | Nov 03 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | they also cheaped out on guards | Nov 03 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | there was a case a few years ago where the prisoners took over a state prison | Nov 03 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | where the prisoner to guard ratio was about 100:1 | Nov 03 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | they claimed they designed the facility so that it could securely operate with a skeleton crew | Nov 03 03:11 |
| msb__ | Jaywalking, littering, spitting on the sidewalk, "loitering" -- 6 months in prison if you do it in Indiana. | Nov 03 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | and only a few months later, the prisoners took the place over and the only reason none of them escaped is because the police surrounded the prison and eventually they gave up and went back to their cell | Nov 03 03:12 |
| DaemonFC | actually, those are all still civil infractions | Nov 03 03:12 |
| msb__ | Ship in more "crack" and jail the people who buy it. | Nov 03 03:13 |
| DaemonFC | with a fine not to exceed $2,000 | Nov 03 03:13 |
| DaemonFC | but in practice, most localities don't enforce them | Nov 03 03:13 |
| DaemonFC | or charge minimal fines | Nov 03 03:13 |
| msb__ | Indiana may find a need to increase those penalties. After all, loiterers are potential terrorists. | Nov 03 03:14 |
| msb__ | Anyone standing on the sidewalk and not going anywhere is probably a criminal planning a crime. | Nov 03 03:15 |
| msb__ | Or a terrorist. | Nov 03 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | anyone without a car is a potential terrorist | Nov 03 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 03 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | my car broke down several years ago and I went walking somewhere after dark | Nov 03 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | and the cops stopped me, told me to hand over my identification | Nov 03 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | and told me to tell them where I was going | Nov 03 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | I asked them why they needed to know that | Nov 03 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | they told me it's because they've had "break ins" lately in the neighborhood | Nov 03 03:17 |
| DaemonFC | I told them they caught me red handed with an invisible plasma TV | Nov 03 03:17 |
| DaemonFC | they wren't amused | Nov 03 03:17 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 03 03:17 |
| msb__ | A very active 9/11 activist in the next city up from mine was pulled over with her young daughter in the car. The cops said she looked like a bank robber. | Nov 03 03:18 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, I have no car to haul anything off in, I think I'll go break into someone's house and walk back across town with whatever I can carry | Nov 03 03:18 |
| DaemonFC | dumbass | Nov 03 03:18 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 03 03:18 |
| DaemonFC | yes, and we would have gotten away with it, but she shit her diaper and slowed me down | Nov 03 03:19 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 03 03:19 |
| DaemonFC | you ever wonder what goes on in a stupid cop brain? | Nov 03 03:20 |
| DaemonFC | herp derp, that guy is walking on a sidewalk with nothing in his hands | Nov 03 03:20 |
| DaemonFC | I'll go harass him | Nov 03 03:20 |
| DaemonFC | msb__: Under state law, you do have to identify yourself if the police stop you for any reason | Nov 03 03:21 |
| msb__ | Neuron-1 to neuron-2: duhh... | Nov 03 03:21 |
| DaemonFC | so I did, and then I asked if I was being detained or if I was free to go | Nov 03 03:21 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Nov 03 03:21 |
| DaemonFC | obviously I hadn't done anything wrong, so I was free to go | Nov 03 03:22 |
| DaemonFC | they like to pick people at random to go bother so it looks like they're earning their paycheck | Nov 03 03:22 |
| DaemonFC | that's my opinion | Nov 03 03:22 |
| msb__ | Under federal law the US govt can now kidnap, torture, and kill anyone in the world, including US citizens. Just by declaring they are terrorists. | Nov 03 03:22 |
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| DaemonFC | right, but only if they're not on US soil | Nov 03 03:23 |
| DaemonFC | per the Supreme Court | Nov 03 03:23 |
| Lirodon | Apparently, Ubuntu devs are thinking about going BACK to Rhythmbox for 12.04 | Nov 03 03:23 |
| DaemonFC | they claimed they don't have jurisdiction over the CIA in other countries | Nov 03 03:23 |
| DaemonFC | so it's OK to murder Americans | Nov 03 03:23 |
| DaemonFC | they should | Nov 03 03:23 |
| DaemonFC | I doubt they will | Nov 03 03:24 |
| DaemonFC | Banshee is a fucking mess but it looks more like iTunes, so they'll keep it no matter how badly it is fucking up | Nov 03 03:24 |
| DaemonFC | that thing is probably the buggiest pile of crap I've ever seen | Nov 03 03:25 |
| Lirodon | however they have good arguments: 1. it's a native GTK3 app 2. Takes less disk space. 3. Banshee's GTK3 port is still being worked on 4. The previous LTS also used Rhythmbox | Nov 03 03:25 |
| DaemonFC | I haven't encountered a release of Banshee yet that hasn't had some bizarre problem | Nov 03 03:25 |
| DaemonFC | according to the Banshee devs, a lot of the holdup in the GTK# 3 port is due to upstream Mono bugs that Xamarin is not showing any concern about | Nov 03 03:26 |
| DaemonFC | you don't NEED GTK# on iOS and Android | Nov 03 03:26 |
| DaemonFC | so they don't care if it works right or not | Nov 03 03:26 |
| Lirodon | have you even seen Gnome 3's rhythmbox? | Nov 03 03:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Inevitable Has Happened: Occupy Foreclosures | COLLAPSENET - #usa #collapse #bankingsystem http://goo.gl/IXpoF | Nov 03 03:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 03 03:46 |
| DaemonFC | It's not so bad | Nov 03 03:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ piratepartyca: RT @ppinternational: pls RT 29 questions to see who might be electable for you in #egypt http://ur1.ca/5 http://ur1. ... | Nov 03 03:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Engaging in some truly herculean !NaNoWrimo procrastination today... first dual !FreeByron posts http://ur1.ca/5lhe6 http://ur1.ca/5lhsg ... | Nov 03 04:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ...then, when I sat down to write my !NaNoWriMo outline, what came out was more appropos for a feature script... maybe #scriptfrenzy later? | Nov 03 04:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ...and if that wasn't bad enough, I finished The Girl with The Dragon Tattoo over dinner & now time for another crack at a NaNoWriMo Outline | Nov 03 04:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Good Morning @navigium !Tzag | Nov 03 04:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Actually it is just after 1am, so technically it is :) | Nov 03 05:03 | |
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| DaemonFC | It's clear after reading these WhiteHouse.gov petitions that most people have no idea what the president actually does | Nov 03 05:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Kopi Tiam @Raffles City has serious service issues. Can't get orders right - Mee Siam becomes Chow Mien. FT waitors need training. | Nov 03 05:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Just so you know, @dothidden, !Identica is still having problems with upgrade | Nov 03 06:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] The internet connection is slooow as molasses today, but still better than the "non-existent" it has been recently | Nov 03 06:53 | |
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| schestowitz | [03:04] <DaemonFC> http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-in-indiana-federalca,0,1398283.story | Nov 03 07:36 |
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| schestowitz | [03:06] <msb__> azalyn: The govt is controlled by the ultra-wealthy. Bill and Melinda Gates attend the Bilderberg conferences. According to released cable messages, the US govt urges various nations to use Microsoft products instead of Linux/FOSS. | Nov 03 07:36 |
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| schestowitz | Wikileaks gace just one example of this | Nov 03 07:37 |
| schestowitz | I showed many others in techrights | Nov 03 07:37 |
| DaemonFC | r600g finally has vdpau support by default | Nov 03 07:38 |
| DaemonFC | and it works nicely | Nov 03 07:38 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 03 07:38 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: You figure Ubuntu is serious about ditching Banshee? | Nov 03 07:39 |
| DaemonFC | it doesn't appear to be working out too well for them even though they've consistently refused to face the patent problems | Nov 03 07:39 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Nov 03 07:39 |
| DaemonFC | the whole thing is a disaster and a lot of the fixes involve mono bugs that Xamarin is not fixing | Nov 03 07:40 |
| schestowitz | I spoke to Shuttleworth about it and he says they'll deal with it as it arises | Nov 03 07:40 |
| schestowitz | Rather than prevention | Nov 03 07:40 |
| DaemonFC | I think Banshee in its current state, only considering the bugs, has not place in an LTS | Nov 03 07:40 |
| DaemonFC | do they really want to support broken software for five years? | Nov 03 07:41 |
| DaemonFC | when the upstream has such an uncertain future | Nov 03 07:41 |
| DaemonFC | *no place | Nov 03 07:41 |
| DaemonFC | nobody is questioning that C and GTK+ are going to still exist in 5 years | Nov 03 07:43 |
| DaemonFC | C# (Mono) and GTK# may not have that long | Nov 03 07:44 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/alangsmello/statuses/131919166914572288 | Nov 03 07:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @alangsmello: Por essas e outras eu NUNCA VOU USAR PRODUTOS DA APPLE. http://t.co/YpLH3RPn (e se eu usar, CORRÃO! Eu devo ter virado um zumbi!) | Nov 03 07:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 03 07:44 |
| DaemonFC | GTK# currently doesn't even have the entire feature set of GTK+ 2 | Nov 03 07:45 |
| DaemonFC | it's still stuck at 2.18 I think | Nov 03 07:45 |
| schestowitz | fedora is the maintained of shell | Nov 03 07:46 |
| DaemonFC | I think there's a lot more work involved than they are letting on if they want to port it to GTK+ 3 | Nov 03 07:46 |
| schestowitz | and thus majormplayer in gnome3 and gtk | Nov 03 07:46 |
| DaemonFC | and without Novell backing them, it's unlikely to ever happen | Nov 03 07:46 |
| schestowitz | feodra disregards mono and even actively avoids it, esp. since Cambridge (F10) when they dumped tomboy | Nov 03 07:47 |
| DaemonFC | Eric Sandeen isn't fond of Tomboy or Gnote | Nov 03 07:48 |
| DaemonFC | he said they cause too much disk activity | Nov 03 07:48 |
| DaemonFC | a note taking widget that takes more RAM than Windows 2000 is a bit over the top | Nov 03 07:49 |
| DaemonFC | they're making some truly bizarre decisions for Ubuntu lately | Nov 03 07:53 |
| DaemonFC | now they want to get rid of initrds too | Nov 03 07:53 |
| DaemonFC | which I happen to NEED in order to boot | Nov 03 07:53 |
| DaemonFC | I hope they don't decide to kill those with fire to save half a second and then claim everyone should use Ext4 anyway | Nov 03 07:54 |
| DaemonFC | if they want to speed something up, they should kill Ext4 with fire and make everyone move over to XFS | Nov 03 07:55 |
| DaemonFC | it is getting faster while Ext4 keeps getting slower | Nov 03 07:56 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84865509 | Nov 03 08:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 03-Nov-11 01:52:22 UTC - Identi.ca: ♻ @jamie_love: I am surprised the European debate on ACTA has not focused more on the damages provisions, which are pretty bad. | Nov 03 08:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] need to blog today, finish up some tablet arrangements, patch merging, then off to berlin on the night train this evening. | Nov 03 08:21 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/729475 | Nov 03 08:50 |
| schestowitz | "Yes very good interviews. Swapnil Bhartiya is very sharp." | Nov 03 08:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 03 08:50 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/729475 "Me too. The amount of road accidents must be awful... ;)" | Nov 03 08:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 03 08:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] President Obama Ignores the US Population’s Plea to Abolish Software Patents http://is.gd/DZMwLy #swpats | Nov 03 09:01 | |
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| schestowitz | Is Internet Explorer Dying? October’s Web browser numbers are in and Internet Explorer numbers are plummeting, while Google’s Chrome and Apple’s Safari continues to gain. | Nov 03 09:03 |
| schestowitz | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/is-internet-explorer-dying/1595 | Nov 03 09:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Is Internet Explorer Dying? | ZDNet .::. Size~: 140.51 KB | Nov 03 09:03 |
| schestowitz | Net Applications | Nov 03 09:03 |
| schestowitz | Blech | Nov 03 09:03 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84872377 http://identi.ca/notice/84872864 http://identi.ca/notice/84873024 http://identi.ca/notice/84873256 http://identi.ca/notice/84873370 | Nov 03 09:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 03-Nov-11 07:53:12 UTC - Identi.ca: TechBytes Episode 65: Unity, KDE, and Apple/Microsoft Patent Aggression Against Linux http://is.gd/CPgxEh | Nov 03 09:04 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 03-Nov-11 08:17:40 UTC - Identi.ca: Patents Roundup: Software Patents, Patent Trolls, Reexaminations, and Apple http://ur1.ca/5lquj | Nov 03 09:05 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 03-Nov-11 08:24:42 UTC - Identi.ca: 5 Years Since MIcrosoft’s Patent Extortion Began http://ur1.ca/5lqyv #swpats | Nov 03 09:05 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 03-Nov-11 08:39:26 UTC - Identi.ca: Linus Torvalds Thinks Microsoft Going To Court is a Sign That Its Business is Dying http://is.gd/xVhiKD #swpats #torvalds | Nov 03 09:05 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 03-Nov-11 08:49:09 UTC - Identi.ca: Exposed Microsoft Lobbyists No Longer Pretend to be Objective on Patent Issues http://is.gd/LLJiVr #microsoft #swpats #linux | Nov 03 09:05 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Microsoft contributes open-source code to #Samba - http://zd.net/veGYQk good background piece the move #gpl | Nov 03 09:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #TRIPS Council: Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Pact Raises Eyebrows - http://bit.ly/rzosde as well it might... #acta | Nov 03 09:27 | |
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| MinceR | geekings | Nov 03 09:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Jawbone Launches the Up: Will This $99 Wristband Rule Your Life? - http://on.mash.to/toSaHj the first of many, I'm sure | Nov 03 09:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EMI Music opens its catalog up to developers to create apps for its artists - http://tnw.co/t78Y2A nice, but too little, too late | Nov 03 09:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] G20 - People in, corporate sponsors out - http://bit.ly/sU1Xua tone deaf or what? #avaaz | Nov 03 09:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] It’s Time to Stop Talking About Copyright - http://bit.ly/t3ZEfc "Every modern copyright policy becomes Internet policy"; great analysis | Nov 03 09:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ARM Servers Running #Linux http://ur1.ca/5ls4r #server | Nov 03 09:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] why facebook? - http://bit.ly/vpwE7N intresting thoughts from @shaver on why he left #mozilla for facebook | Nov 03 09:48 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84874292 http://identi.ca/notice/84874726 | Nov 03 09:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 03-Nov-11 09:30:15 UTC - Identi.ca: The Grass has Always been Greener on the other Side of the Fence http://is.gd/42hmpH #kde #linux | Nov 03 09:54 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 03-Nov-11 09:47:09 UTC - Identi.ca: Silly article says #Vista7 "Most Popular OS in the World",. but people don't /choose/ Vista 7. It's imposed via OEMs. "... http://b1t.it/OOr | Nov 03 09:54 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[siltaar/@siltaar] L'extradition de Julian Assange vers la Suède confirmée en appel http://ur1.ca/5lc1d !wl | Nov 03 09:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] Wow! The Open Program Miniconf schedule looks briliiant! Welldone @chrisjrn !! #LCA2012 http://bit.ly/u4Woil | Nov 03 10:13 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/626000 | Nov 03 10:43 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 03 10:43 |
| schestowitz | got slacko and it went smooth as glass to a 2 gig memory stick. | Nov 03 10:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 03 10:43 |
| schestowitz | Hardware is a 1.5 ghz intel with 256 meg ram on an Toshiba satellite. the only issue is the ram. double the ram and it will work fine. Wireless seems to be well supported. I was able to go about any where I wanted on the web though slowly. I like the distro and hate my hardware. I wouldn't buy any Toshiba's offerings and I would pick one up even free. This would work better with an AMD processor and about 512 of ram. | Nov 03 10:43 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 03 10:43 |
| schestowitz | I have some similar hardware around. It came with Puppy but Debian now runs on it far better. | Nov 03 10:43 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] JavaScript - Pass Argument to addEventListener http://ur1.ca/5luzx | Nov 03 10:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #TechBytes Episode 65: Last Episode of First Season http://is.gd/1fv6VF | Nov 03 11:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[techbytes/@techbytes] TechBytes Episode 65: Last Episode of First Season http://is.gd/1fv6VF | Nov 03 11:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !TechBytes Episode 65: Last Episode of First Season http://is.gd/1fv6VF #ubuntu #apple #microsoft | Nov 03 11:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bytesmedia/@bytesmedia] #TechBytes Episode 65: Last Episode of First Season http://is.gd/1fv6VF | Nov 03 11:00 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84877413 | Nov 03 11:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @faither's status on Thursday, 03-Nov-11 11:12:58 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz @openbytes Congratulations to one full year of podcasting and !TechBytes Keep up the good work ^^ | Nov 03 11:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Thank God Identi.Ca is working again with Choqok. +1 | Nov 03 11:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Free speech isn't free: WikiLeaks needs you http://t.co/cFIdfbcW | Nov 03 11:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] dear !debian, I'm trying to build a sparc live cd but I get this: http://ur1.ca/5lvqo halp? google seems unable to help... | Nov 03 11:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ed Bott, Apologist for M$, Does it Again http://ur1.ca/5lvgx "apologist" an understatement. Microsoft gifts him. | Nov 03 11:58 | |
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| schestowitz | Links 3/11/2011: Linus Torvalds Speaks Out, Trinity Desktop Debated http://techrights.org/2011/11/03/trinity-desktop-debated/ #techrights | Nov 03 11:59 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 3/11/2011: Linus Torvalds Speaks Out, Trinity Desktop Debated http://ur1.ca/5lvuf #techrights | Nov 03 12:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Assange extradition to the US; Sweden in informal talks since last December | SvA http://t.co/FhYybbSA | Nov 03 12:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Duqu infection linked to #Microsoft Word exploit http://ur1.ca/5lw5c someone's gonna get in trouble for naming | Nov 03 12:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Dipping Into theUK Government's Open Source Procurement Toolkit - http://bit.ly/sY8BXA surprisingly good #openstandards | Nov 03 12:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] LWN covers Till Jaegers talk about #AVM #fritzbox #GPL case at #ELCE: http://bit.ly/vIiZBA | Nov 03 12:28 | |
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| msb__ | Question: For a Window8 machine to be able to run Linux, it will have to have a switch that can disable the UEFI treacherous boot system. A physical-mechanical switch would add cost that users would refuse to pay, so it will have to be a BIOS option and a flag in some CMOS or other non-volatile memory location. Will Microsoft propagandists be able to claim that malware could flip that switch, and that therefore there should be no | Nov 03 12:48 |
| msb__ | switch? | Nov 03 12:48 |
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| cubezzz | simple solution | Nov 03 12:48 |
| cubezzz | don't use win8 | Nov 03 12:48 |
| cubezzz | better yet, use coreboot as your bios | Nov 03 12:49 |
| msb__ | cubezzz: That means that almost every new computer will not be able to run Linux. | Nov 03 12:49 |
| iophk | msb__: that would be the apparent goal, especially for dualboot. | Nov 03 12:50 |
| cubezzz | yeah, that isn't going to happen | Nov 03 12:50 |
| cubezzz | Microsoft's own customers use windows and some of them use Linux/BSD | Nov 03 12:50 |
| cubezzz | they would be alienating their own customers | Nov 03 12:51 |
| msb__ | Coreboot requires hardware support, right? Hardware vendors, under pressure from MS, would not include it. | Nov 03 12:51 |
| cubezzz | uh, that is already the case | Nov 03 12:52 |
| cubezzz | a lot of the coreboot stuff is pain-stakingly reverse engineered | Nov 03 12:52 |
| cubezzz | I've done some of that myself | Nov 03 12:52 |
| msb__ | Few MS customers use Linux. Those who want to when they buy a machine can buy a more expensive one with switchable UEFI. | Nov 03 12:52 |
| cubezzz | look for socketed bios on your motherboard | Nov 03 12:53 |
| cubezzz | then it's relatively easy | Nov 03 12:53 |
| cubezzz | and FSF will help you | Nov 03 12:53 |
| cubezzz | they have already done a lot of research in this area | Nov 03 12:54 |
| msb__ | cubezzz: The problem is not that dedicated Linux users won't be able to configure a machine. The problem is that most machines that people buy will never be able to run Linux. | Nov 03 12:54 |
| cubezzz | yeah, I hear what you're saying | Nov 03 12:55 |
| cubezzz | I haven't encountered that situation | Nov 03 12:55 |
| msb__ | cubezzz: It's very important that people be able to install and use Linux _after_ they've naively bought a computer. | Nov 03 12:55 |
| cubezzz | if you give the bios maker enough $$$ they will give you the source code | Nov 03 12:56 |
| cubezzz | not sure how much that costs | Nov 03 12:56 |
| cubezzz | msb__, totally agree | Nov 03 12:56 |
| msb__ | We haven't encountered it because UEFI isn't being used yet. | Nov 03 12:56 |
| cubezzz | IBM gave out bios source code for XT and AT systems | Nov 03 12:56 |
| msb__ | Even with the source code -- or with a disassembled version of it -- UEFI is designed so it can't be hacked. | Nov 03 12:57 |
| cubezzz | developed in 2005 and it's not out? | Nov 03 12:57 |
| cubezzz | that seems unlikely | Nov 03 12:57 |
| iophk | lemote has open source BIOS: http://dev.lemote.com/trac/pmon | Nov 03 12:57 |
| msb__ | I've never seen a report of a PC that won't run Linux. | Nov 03 12:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: pmon (BIOS of Loongson) .::. Size~: 8.98 KB | Nov 03 12:57 |
| cubezzz | yes, I know about pmon | Nov 03 12:57 |
| cubezzz | Itanium uses EFI 1.02 | Nov 03 12:58 |
| msb__ | Having source code of a program that you can't modify doesn't help. | Nov 03 12:58 |
| cubezzz | they can boot any OS | Nov 03 12:58 |
| msb__ | And you can create (lousy) source code by a disassembler. | Nov 03 12:59 |
| cubezzz | btw has already IBM shipped UEFI systems | Nov 03 12:59 |
| cubezzz | yes | Nov 03 12:59 |
| cubezzz | I've done it :) | Nov 03 12:59 |
| cubezzz | there's this thing called CSM | Nov 03 12:59 |
| cubezzz | Compatibility Support Module | Nov 03 12:59 |
| msb__ | Which is? | Nov 03 13:00 |
| cubezzz | allows BIOS based OSes to boot | Nov 03 13:00 |
| cubezzz | even when using UEFI based systems | Nov 03 13:00 |
| cubezzz | e.g. MSI motherboards with ClickBIOS | Nov 03 13:01 |
| msb__ | It won't work without a signature in the UEFI. | Nov 03 13:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] RT @laforge LWN covers Till Jaegers talk about #AVM #fritzbox #GPL case at #ELCE: http://bit.ly/vIiZBA | Nov 03 13:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The Article On The E-PARASITE Act That You Need To Read http://ur1.ca/5lwoh | Nov 03 13:01 | |
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| cubezzz | Gigabyte has a consumer based board with EFI | Nov 03 13:02 |
| cubezzz | it's out | Nov 03 13:02 |
| msb__ | Specific mobos don't matter. | Nov 03 13:03 |
| cubezzz | the coreboot guys already know about this stuff | Nov 03 13:03 |
| msb__ | Unless all mobos with UEFI have it switchable, Linux adoption by most users will be impossible. | Nov 03 13:03 |
| msb__ | Coreboot requires support from computer mfrs, right? Most won't do it, especially under secret pressure from MS. | Nov 03 13:04 |
| cubezzz | msb__, it doesn't require it | Nov 03 13:04 |
| msb__ | How does it get control, then? | Nov 03 13:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Good news from UK Govt on #freesoftware - am I dreaming? | Nov 03 13:05 | |
| cubezzz | if the chips on your board have data sheets you're off to the races | Nov 03 13:05 |
| cubezzz | they figured it out | Nov 03 13:05 |
| cubezzz | if not, then it takes a long time to support the board | Nov 03 13:05 |
| msb__ | They figured out how to defeat UEFI? | Nov 03 13:05 |
| cubezzz | um, I'll ask them | Nov 03 13:05 |
| msb__ | I think this is a plan by Microsoft to kill Linux for most computer users. The Final Solution. | Nov 03 13:06 |
| cubezzz | ha, ok | Nov 03 13:07 |
| msb__ | No ha. Seriously. | Nov 03 13:07 |
| cubezzz | then the DOJ will have to deal with it | Nov 03 13:07 |
| msb__ | The govt is controlled by ultrawealthy people and their corporations. | Nov 03 13:07 |
| msb__ | When the DOJ investigated MS years ago, it never forced them to permit dual-boot. It only dealt with the bundled browser. | Nov 03 13:08 |
| msb__ | That's what killed BeOS. | Nov 03 13:09 |
| cubezzz | yes, I remember | Nov 03 13:10 |
| cubezzz | I was a BeOS user | Nov 03 13:10 |
| cubezzz | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface | Nov 03 13:17 |
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| cubezzz | this article seems to indicate that booting isn't a problem | Nov 03 13:17 |
| cubezzz | regarding BeOS, at least we have Haiku | Nov 03 13:19 |
| cubezzz | I've used it | Nov 03 13:20 |
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| cubezzz | the word from coreboot: | Nov 03 13:24 |
| cubezzz | "the OS must have GPT support or the UEFI-compliant firmware must have legacy MBR support" | Nov 03 13:24 |
| cubezzz | so for sure, check that first | Nov 03 13:24 |
| msb__ | cubezzz: That article doesn't even mention UEFI limiting which OSes can boot according to signatures embedded in ROM. So it is ignoring the question at hand. | Nov 03 13:28 |
| msb__ | cubezzz: What is GPT? | Nov 03 13:29 |
| cubezzz | GUID Partition Table | Nov 03 13:29 |
| msb__ | Does that defeat the UEFI signature from Microsoft permitting only Windows 8 to boot? | Nov 03 13:30 |
| cubezzz | "The good news here is that both Dell and HP are not providing a boot environment that locks out using Linux. It is likely that others will follow." | Nov 03 13:31 |
| cubezzz | who cares what microsoft does? | Nov 03 13:32 |
| cubezzz | I mean, of course they will try their usual crap | Nov 03 13:32 |
| cubezzz | but there's two big manufacuters that aren't going to lock out Linux | Nov 03 13:32 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84878582 | Nov 03 13:34 |
| cubezzz | Microsoft can't tell all the OEMs of the world what to do | Nov 03 13:34 |
| iophk | They have so far. | Nov 03 13:34 |
| msb__ | What will they do when MS puppets start saying that malware can switch off the UEFI "security"? | Nov 03 13:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 03-Nov-11 11:59:10 UTC - Identi.ca: Apple ACKs that #iphone4s is defectice http://ur1.ca/5lvw5 #apple | Nov 03 13:34 |
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| cubezzz | time to change OS then | Nov 03 13:34 |
| schestowitz | if you can | Nov 03 13:35 |
| MinceR | so long as OEMs think it's necessary for their business to be able to preload winblows, m$ will keep yanking them on chains | Nov 03 13:35 |
| iophk | schestowitz: why not just link directly to the Inquirer? That would skip two steps, and possible errors. | Nov 03 13:35 |
| cubezzz | you're presupposing that people are running windows | Nov 03 13:35 |
| cubezzz | not always the case | Nov 03 13:35 |
| cubezzz | you buy a motherboard, there's no OS | Nov 03 13:35 |
| schestowitz | iophk: the sites compress those original URLs | Nov 03 13:36 |
| msb__ | cubezzz: Again you're missing the point. The question is whether _all_ PCs, not selected ones, can run Linux. | Nov 03 13:36 |
| schestowitz | the title of the page makes if discoverable | Nov 03 13:36 |
| schestowitz | !google Apple will have an iphone 4s battery software fix soon | Nov 03 13:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Apple will have an iphone 4s battery software fix soon- The Inquirer | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2122262/apple-iphone-4s-battery-software-fix-soon | Nov 03 13:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Apple Admits To iPhone 4S Battery Problem, Software | http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-admits-to-iphone-4s-battery-problem-2011-11 | Nov 03 13:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Apple to issue software fix for iPhone 4S battery - The Economic Times | http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/hardware/apple-to-issue-software-fix-for-iphone-4s-battery/articleshow/10588422.cms | Nov 03 13:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Apple will have an Iphone 4S battery software fix soon – Inquirer | http://www.knuimaui.com/apple-will-have-an-iphone-4s-battery-software-fix-soon-inquirer | Nov 03 13:36 |
| cubezzz | Foxconn have been busted with motherboards with deliberately faulty DSDT tables to whart non-Microsoft, too. | Nov 03 13:36 |
| schestowitz | iPhone... expensive AND already dysfunctional out of the box.. in every box | Nov 03 13:37 |
| cubezzz | so, old news | Nov 03 13:37 |
| cubezzz | the best thing to do is make some noise about it | Nov 03 13:37 |
| cubezzz | which I | Nov 03 13:37 |
| cubezzz | I | Nov 03 13:37 |
| cubezzz | I'm sure techrights will do | Nov 03 13:37 |
| schestowitz | it has... but it;'s not a priority | Nov 03 13:38 |
| schestowitz | better to show how apple and msft attack Linux than to knock their products | Nov 03 13:38 |
| cubezzz | historically, Open has beat Closed | Nov 03 13:39 |
| cubezzz | the internet itself is an example of a network with open protocols | Nov 03 13:39 |
| schestowitz | Savages often beat freedom | Nov 03 13:40 |
| cubezzz | Amiga 3000 was documented, every register on every chip | Nov 03 13:40 |
| cubezzz | now you have to work to get that | Nov 03 13:40 |
| cubezzz | not like the c64 days where you could buy the programmer's reference guide and mapping the c64 | Nov 03 13:41 |
| abeNd-org1 | too bad HP ditched webos & their idea to preload it on all their computers as an option to windows...a lawsuit free OS as an option, what a concept :P | Nov 03 13:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "...scraped their profiles, news feeds & wall posts for personal information." rd @inscius 'social' bots on FB http://ur1.ca/5lwpo !privacy | Nov 03 13:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Have you tried !gnash recently? It works well for me on !fedora | Nov 03 13:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] Kostis Sagonas presenting about his amazing PropEr work at #euc2011 and his fight for Free Software and GPL | Nov 03 13:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] From the way it's laid out, it not obvious to me why @gwibber seems to offer the option of posting to Digg, tho it doesn't allow logging in? | Nov 03 14:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] So, the new @gwibber doesn't allow editable RTs, has no lists, has only one stream (unified) ? Tell me again, what the improvements were? | Nov 03 14:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Mass psychosis in the US - Opinion - Al Jazeera|How #BigPharma got Americans hooked on anti-psychotic drugs. - #usa http://goo.gl/IwxRT | Nov 03 14:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @kevingranade @psquid this is an interesting problem, in a federated network where people move to different services, how do we maint ... | Nov 03 14:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz 240 Wikileaks cables on pharmaceutical data exclusivity http://ur1.ca/5ly45 #bigpharma #corruption !wikileaks | Nov 03 14:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Linus Torvalds: Why #Linux Is Not Successful On Desktops http://ur1.ca/5ly42 | Nov 03 14:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @johnalexwood Top 50 Psychiatrists Paid by Pharmaceutical Companies | World of Psychology http://ow.ly/31edQ #bigpharma #corruption | Nov 03 14:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] SystemRescueCd 2.4.0 released - The H Open Source #flosstools #gnulinux http://goo.gl/nZNVJ | Nov 03 14:50 | |
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| azalyn | [23:06:23] <msb__> azalyn: The govt is controlled by the ultra-wealthy. Bill and Melinda Gates attend the Bilderberg conferences. According to released cable messages, the US govt urges various nations to use Microsoft products instead of Linux/FOSS. | Nov 03 14:50 |
| azalyn | msb__: can you link me to those stories? | Nov 03 14:50 |
| azalyn | or maybe schestowitz, you mentioned you wrote articles about it. | Nov 03 14:50 |
| azalyn | it's not that i doubt you guys, i just want to do my homework. i want to bookmark the links and throw them into the faces of deniers. | Nov 03 14:51 |
| azalyn | because everyone thinks i'm crazy when i talk about this stuff. | Nov 03 14:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #KDE SC 4.7.3 arrives with Nepomuk fixes - The H Open Source #floss #gnulinux http://goo.gl/n2kyC | Nov 03 14:52 | |
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| azalyn | cubezzz: UEFI and Secure Boot are different. we've had UEFI for awhile now, Secure Boot is *new*, it's not even out yet. Microsoft is making Secure Boot *mandatory* for the Windows 8 logo/WHQL/etc program. | Nov 03 14:52 |
| azalyn | and they're not requiring that OEMs provide an option to disable it. which means that some OEMs probably won't. and furthermore, because intel developed the spec, microsoft can pass the buck and just pretend that this is intel's fault. | Nov 03 14:53 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #UNESCO recommends open educational resources - The H Open Source #flosstools #education http://goo.gl/Xg4bL | Nov 03 14:54 | |
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| azalyn | also, the BIOSs are tivoized, you can't replace them with coreboot. you need a cryptographic key to do it. | Nov 03 14:55 |
| azalyn | the EFI bioses, that is. | Nov 03 14:55 |
| azalyn | also. they can pass it off as a security feature, and label anyone who opposes it as an anti-security nutjob. | Nov 03 14:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Samba gets Microsoft code contribution - The H Open Source - a #floss miracle ;) the cancer has been cured ;) http://goo.gl/X5uup | Nov 03 15:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #HP's Project #Moonshot lands power efficient #ARM servers - The H Open Source #gnulinux http://goo.gl/DzV4M | Nov 03 15:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Trying to find a parking spot can do things to your blood pressure... | Nov 03 15:16 | |
| msb__ | azalyn: https://www.google.com/search?q="bill+gates"+bilderberg&hl=en&num=100 | Nov 03 15:20 |
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| schestowitz | His wife | Nov 03 15:23 |
| schestowitz | maybe he too attends the meetings now, haven't checked in a while | Nov 03 15:23 |
| schestowitz | But Bill has his own parties | Nov 03 15:23 |
| schestowitz | Like bringing over Rupert Murdoch to meetings in Seattle a couple of years back | Nov 03 15:24 |
| schestowitz | I haven't kept track of Gates in a while, but it's all rather repetitive, just the evidence becoming fresher (news that helps confirm what we already knew and stated before) | Nov 03 15:24 |
| azalyn | i meant stories/articles specifically about the USA government influencing other countries to use microsoft products. | Nov 03 15:24 |
| azalyn | the cables that were mentioned | Nov 03 15:24 |
| schestowitz | [14:50] <azalyn> msb__: can you link me to those stories? | Nov 03 15:25 |
| azalyn | yeah | Nov 03 15:25 |
| schestowitz | A recent example is Tunisia | Nov 03 15:25 |
| schestowitz | It was in the news everywhere (well, not literally) | Nov 03 15:25 |
| schestowitz | I covered other examples | Nov 03 15:26 |
| schestowitz | But they didn't say "wikileaks" on them, so this didn't get much worldwide coverage... kind of the "Rothschild effect" :-) | Nov 03 15:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] #MAFIAA denying facts and reality once again. http://identi.ca/url/56367635 #c11 #protectip #e-parasite !ppca | Nov 03 15:26 | |
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| schestowitz | [15:24] <azalyn> i meant stories/articles specifically about the USA government influencing other countries to use microsoft products. | Nov 03 15:27 |
| schestowitz | go to the techrights wiki | Nov 03 15:27 |
| schestowitz | at the top there is a link called cablegate, I put many examples there | Nov 03 15:27 |
| schestowitz | I plan to maybe process some morem cables in xmas, depending on what's a priority | Nov 03 15:27 |
| azalyn | thanks | Nov 03 15:28 |
| schestowitz | cablegate is not a high priority cause the material is old, just not unearthed yet... a bit like Comes that we analysed for 3-4 years | Nov 03 15:28 |
| azalyn | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Cablegate#GNU.2FLinux.2FUNIX | Nov 03 15:28 |
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| azalyn | found it. | Nov 03 15:28 |
| schestowitz | Remember that piracy means Linux | Nov 03 15:29 |
| schestowitz | As iophk puts it.. | Nov 03 15:29 |
| MinceR | yarr! | Nov 03 15:29 |
| schestowitz | Either Linux is "illegal" Windows that Microsoft lets them have for free to suppress Linux adoption | Nov 03 15:30 |
| schestowitz | We have evidence from Microsoft iself that it is doing this (mostly in Comes vs Microsoft) | Nov 03 15:30 |
| msb__ | schestowitz: Hoo boy that stuff is great for my MS War on Linux page! | Nov 03 15:30 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Neat - the mall has free WiFi | Nov 03 15:35 | |
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| msb__ | Downloading Communism -- http://www.modernhumorist.com/mh/0004/propaganda/mp3.jpg | Nov 03 15:39 |
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| MinceR | meh, pirating FLACs is better anyway. :> | Nov 03 15:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] because the real book is far too accurate, they're paying to be taught after all. | Nov 03 15:40 | |
| cubezzz | azalyn, ah I see | Nov 03 15:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @reality: Why are university students reading Java For Dummies using it as their definitive source | Nov 03 15:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @slackusr: have you ever noticed that the less someone knows, the louder they know it? | Nov 03 15:41 | |
| msb__ | http://www.treetrybe.com/imm/images/terroristmp3.gif | Nov 03 15:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/gif type | Nov 03 15:43 |
| msb__ | Note that those who bomb and invade three nations -- Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya -- and murder 2,000,000 people, are not called terrorists. But the citizens of those nations who try to defend against the invaders are called terrorists by the corporate-controlled media. | Nov 03 15:49 |
| schestowitz | Enemy combatant=terrorist | Nov 03 15:50 |
| schestowitz | "We have the right to kill, they don't" | Nov 03 15:50 |
| schestowitz | Chomsky has some wise sayings about it | Nov 03 15:50 |
| schestowitz | Because, by default, "We are the good guys" | Nov 03 15:50 |
| schestowitz | Look at MS' evanglism is war | Nov 03 15:51 |
| schestowitz | it says that too | Nov 03 15:51 |
| schestowitz | "We are the good guys" | Nov 03 15:51 |
| schestowitz | Linux=fanatic/extremists./terrorists/communists | Nov 03 15:51 |
| schestowitz | Similar to how Fox 'News' describes OWS protesters | Nov 03 15:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Unsure whether to react "see, you can do it if you want" or "sad that this is even news" on this one http://ur1.ca/5lzgm !fsfe !samba | Nov 03 15:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Either way, you can apparently still count Microsoft's contributions to #Samba on one hand - even if you've lost three fingers !fsfe | Nov 03 15:51 | |
| msb__ | Michael Parenti said that the worst crime is to defend against an attack/invasion by the U.S. | Nov 03 15:51 |
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| schestowitz | Tea Party = pro-corporate, "good" | Nov 03 15:51 |
| schestowitz | Tea Party = against-corporate greed, "bad" | Nov 03 15:52 |
| schestowitz | oops | Nov 03 15:52 |
| schestowitz | OWS = against-corporate greed, "bad" | Nov 03 15:52 |
| schestowitz | msb__: or from Israel | Nov 03 15:52 |
| msb__ | Israel? | Nov 03 15:53 |
| schestowitz | Then you're described either as Arab or Arab sympathiser or anti-Semite | Nov 03 15:53 |
| schestowitz | msb__: yes, you said, "Michael Parenti said that the worst crime is to defend against an attack/invasion by the U.S." | Nov 03 15:53 |
| msb__ | Yes! | Nov 03 15:53 |
| schestowitz | So I said, there are some enemies of the UN | Nov 03 15:53 |
| schestowitz | See how the US tossed UNESCO | Nov 03 15:53 |
| schestowitz | And maybe WIPO along wuth the UN | Nov 03 15:54 |
| schestowitz | Canada too, I heard yesterday | Nov 03 15:54 |
| schestowitz | Because of their position on Palestine | Nov 03 15:54 |
| schestowitz | They gave them the 'Cuba treatment' | Nov 03 15:54 |
| msb__ | The Palestinians, who want their land back from the zionists, have been called "terrorists" for 50 years. | Nov 03 15:54 |
| schestowitz | It's when you don't like opposing views, so you starve them to death with sanctions | Nov 03 15:54 |
| schestowitz | And if they fight back, you then just use mass media to defame them | Nov 03 15:55 |
| schestowitz | msb__: some are terrorists, like those who bomb buses | Nov 03 15:55 |
| schestowitz | But that's not the point | Nov 03 15:55 |
| schestowitz | If you launch a rocket from an F16 and crush a house, then it is not being called terrorism | Nov 03 15:56 |
| msb__ | My congresswoman, Anna Eshoo, had a telephone town meeting last night. | Nov 03 15:56 |
| schestowitz | When Obama sends a drone to strike a wedding party, Obama does not get called a terrorist | Nov 03 15:56 |
| schestowitz | Terrorists are associated with primitive means | Nov 03 15:56 |
| schestowitz | Often it's all they have | Nov 03 15:56 |
| msb__ | She said she's tightening the noose around Iran to prevent it from getting a nuclear weapon. | Nov 03 15:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Just heard Ruth Zion for the first time (old gospel singer) What a Voice!!! amazing!!! !listening | Nov 03 15:56 | |
| schestowitz | The guy in the suit can bribe someone with $100ml | Nov 03 15:56 |
| schestowitz | They lock him up for 1 month | Nov 03 15:56 |
| schestowitz | Another man steals $100 for the register | Nov 03 15:56 |
| schestowitz | gets 10 years in prison for roberry | Nov 03 15:57 |
| schestowitz | robbery | Nov 03 15:57 |
| schestowitz | One may have reasont to rob | Nov 03 15:57 |
| schestowitz | Another was very well off to begin with | Nov 03 15:57 |
| msb__ | Israel had 400 nuclear weapons and has promised to nuke the cities of Europe, murdering hundreds of millions, if Israel is ever attacked. They call it the "Samson Option". | Nov 03 15:57 |
| schestowitz | The justice is "just us"... I said it before I saw others saying it too | Nov 03 15:57 |
| schestowitz | Lawyers hang around where money is | Nov 03 15:57 |
| schestowitz | Lawyers=~policians=~greee | Nov 03 15:58 |
| schestowitz | So our laws are warped in favour of greed | Nov 03 15:58 |
| schestowitz | And the court system is very expensive | Nov 03 15:58 |
| schestowitz | Unlike the NHS, it's not taxpayers' funded | Nov 03 15:58 |
| msb__ | The Mossad is known for dressing up as Arabs and bombing Israeli buses. Israel then uses that as the excuse for murdering hundreds of Palestinians. | Nov 03 15:58 |
| schestowitz | Jusitce is not justice, justice is expensive :-) | Nov 03 15:58 |
| schestowitz | msb__: na.. you spr\ead BS again | Nov 03 15:59 |
| schestowitz | 400 warheads can't do all that much | Nov 03 15:59 |
| schestowitz | And just a few nukes on a tiny nation like Israel bring it to a halt within minutes | Nov 03 15:59 |
| msb__ | 400 NUKES | Nov 03 15:59 |
| schestowitz | So this "option" is diabolical and irrational | Nov 03 15:59 |
| schestowitz | And I don't know where you read such BS | Nov 03 16:00 |
| msb__ | Wanna make a little wager? | Nov 03 16:00 |
| schestowitz | yeah, 400 nukes but on how many targets? | Nov 03 16:00 |
| schestowitz | Some of them are not made clusters | Nov 03 16:00 |
| schestowitz | So you shoot one rocket with say... 10x10 megaton bombs | Nov 03 16:00 |
| msb__ | One will destroy a city. | Nov 03 16:00 |
| schestowitz | It also makes "nuclear defence system" obsolete | Nov 03 16:01 |
| schestowitz | You can't shoot all 400 | Nov 03 16:01 |
| msb__ | Why not? | Nov 03 16:01 |
| schestowitz | Unless you have many platforms capabale of dispatching them | Nov 03 16:01 |
| schestowitz | It's not some artillery shell | Nov 03 16:01 |
| msb__ | They have missiles, planes and subs. | Nov 03 16:02 |
| schestowitz | And the US has far more nuclear weapons | Nov 03 16:02 |
| schestowitz | 20k maybe | Nov 03 16:02 |
| schestowitz | Russia I think has more... maybe 30k | Nov 03 16:02 |
| msb__ | So? | Nov 03 16:02 |
| schestowitz | China has many too | Nov 03 16:02 |
| schestowitz | Germany makes many subs | Nov 03 16:02 |
| schestowitz | It would not give them if these were of danger to Germany | Nov 03 16:03 |
| schestowitz | You're trying to say that there is some reason to attack Europe or for Europe to start jnuclear attacks around the M.E. | Nov 03 16:03 |
| schestowitz | Where is your evidence? | Nov 03 16:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Negroponte On #OLPC Future: Air Drops And Hands-Off #Education | TechCrunch - #flosstools #inovation http://goo.gl/TRwDY |where's apple/fb? | Nov 03 16:05 | |
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| msb__ | http://www.carolmoore.net/nuclearwar/israelithreats.html | Nov 03 16:06 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] #euc2011 is the first conference that I've ever attended where half of the talks end way ahead of their schedule. sad, that wastes time! | Nov 03 16:06 | |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: I remember the days of a rebellious Canada that traded with Cuba against the wishes of the US> | Nov 03 16:07 |
| XFaCE | Of course, in Harperland, that kind of independent thinking will be retired. | Nov 03 16:07 |
| XFaCE | *is retired | Nov 03 16:08 |
| XFaCE | has been retired | Nov 03 16:08 |
| XFaCE | lol | Nov 03 16:09 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Youtube transcribes "Liberalviewer presents" into "then drove you into it". | Nov 03 16:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @perich perich clearly the WORST thing that could happen would be to let the West's oldest democracy vote on something | Nov 03 16:10 | |
| msb__ | http://cosmicpenguin.com/911/Palestine_landloss.jpg | Nov 03 16:10 |
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| msb__ | http://takingaimradio.com/hhz/index.htm | Nov 03 16:11 |
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| msb__ | http://www.palestineremembered.com/ | Nov 03 16:12 |
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| msb__ | http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/october2005/281005ringwormchildren.htm | Nov 03 16:12 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] So the US right wing press want people to stand by their opinions. I assume they'll stand by the decision to support the Taliban in the 80s? | Nov 03 16:15 | |
| schestowitz | Now the TSA conducts a larger scale 'experiment' :-) | Nov 03 16:17 |
| schestowitz | Lower dosage, more people | Nov 03 16:17 |
| msb__ | http://takingaimradio.com/hhz/map.htm | Nov 03 16:17 |
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| schestowitz | I got my dose recently,. it's not obligatory | Nov 03 16:17 |
| schestowitz | *now | Nov 03 16:17 |
| schestowitz | radiation was not as well understood back then | Nov 03 16:19 |
| msb__ | Also spread herpes and HIV from the genital area of one passenger to the next. The gloves are not changed when they go into your pants and squeeze your genitals. | Nov 03 16:19 |
| schestowitz | They also did a lot of nuclear experiments | Nov 03 16:19 |
| schestowitz | And used troops | Nov 03 16:19 |
| schestowitz | in France for example | Nov 03 16:19 |
| schestowitz | These were different times, post WW1 and WW2 | Nov 03 16:19 |
| msb__ | But nothing like the dosage used on the "ringworm children". 6,000 of them died immediately. | Nov 03 16:19 |
| msb__ | The whole TSA thing is based on the "underwear bomber" who had no passport and was put on the plane by a guy from the US state department. | Nov 03 16:20 |
| schestowitz | Proof? | Nov 03 16:22 |
| XFaCE | yeah msb__, starting to run into Ender territory | Nov 03 16:24 |
| msb__ | https://www.google.com/search?q="underwear+bomber"+site%3Ainfowars.com&hl=en&num=100 | Nov 03 16:24 |
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| schestowitz | I also heard about Obama's birth cert | Nov 03 16:24 |
| schestowitz | Which was in fact shown on TV | Nov 03 16:24 |
| msb__ | One Kurt Haskell witnessed the whole thing. | Nov 03 16:24 |
| schestowitz | And confirmed that he was born in the US | Nov 03 16:24 |
| schestowitz | msb__: no Alex Jones | Nov 03 16:25 |
| schestowitz | he does not cite sources | Nov 03 16:25 |
| msb__ | you are lying. | Nov 03 16:25 |
| schestowitz | the experiments on children are also something he seems to be the only one making claims on | Nov 03 16:25 |
| schestowitz | And he doesn't link other site | Nov 03 16:25 |
| schestowitz | Just pointing to some documentary which only ever made some local film festival | Nov 03 16:25 |
| schestowitz | He needs to at least provide something to check against | Nov 03 16:26 |
| schestowitz | I know the underwear bomber theory | Nov 03 16:26 |
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| schestowitz | I hward it from another persona nd... suprisiee surprise... he heard fhat from Jones & Gang | Nov 03 16:26 |
| schestowitz | Based on Jones, I might as well suspect that Assange works for the US govt. | Nov 03 16:27 |
| schestowitz | And that he was in fact a "plant" or something.. | Nov 03 16:27 |
| msb__ | schestowitz: Jones has on his show an actual eyewitness to the "underwear bomber" affair. And you say he doesn't cite sources. | Nov 03 16:28 |
| msb__ | What better source could there be? | Nov 03 16:28 |
| schestowitz | It's a weak source | Nov 03 16:28 |
| schestowitz | Eyewitness | Nov 03 16:28 |
| schestowitz | Unless capture on a device | Nov 03 16:29 |
| schestowitz | or having access to documents | Nov 03 16:29 |
| schestowitz | You use verbal witness accounts as "proof" that WTC buildings had explosive material installed in them and the planes were just "relish" to make a decoy before "deomlition" | Nov 03 16:29 |
| msb__ | Whenever we get close to great evil done by the capitalist governments, your requirements for belief climb to infinity. | Nov 03 16:29 |
| schestowitz | No, I climb to reason | Nov 03 16:30 |
| schestowitz | Regardless of the circumstabnces | Nov 03 16:30 |
| schestowitz | There is a big PR industry out there | Nov 03 16:30 |
| schestowitz | So we are surronded by paid-for lies | Nov 03 16:30 |
| schestowitz | And that includes DVD peddlers | Nov 03 16:30 |
| schestowitz | And people who seek attention by reversing the truth | Nov 03 16:30 |
| schestowitz | Attention> $$ | Nov 03 16:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Compressing files under Linux or UNIX cheat sheet - #flosstools #tips #cli #gnulinux http://goo.gl/YSVpK | Nov 03 16:31 | |
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| msb__ | schestowitz: You behave toward this information and me the same way Snit behaves toward your information and you. | Nov 03 16:32 |
| cubezzz | msb__, seems that secureboot is a bigger problem than I thought | Nov 03 16:33 |
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| cubezzz | UEFI is ok, we can use it, but secureboot is in addition to UEFI | Nov 03 16:33 |
| msb__ | Alex Jones encourages people to download his videos for free and make hundreds of copies and give them away. | Nov 03 16:33 |
| msb__ | cubezzz: Yep, that's what I thought. | Nov 03 16:34 |
| msb__ | cubezzz: If secure boot can be hacked, it will be very difficult, and it hasn't been yet. | Nov 03 16:34 |
| msb__ | schestowitz: Alex Jones encourages people to download his videos for free and make hundreds of copies and give them away. | Nov 03 16:36 |
| schestowitz | Fee publicity for him | Nov 03 16:37 |
| schestowitz | *free | Nov 03 16:37 |
| schestowitz | and promotes his views too | Nov 03 16:37 |
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| cubezzz | Art Bell was a crazy show | Nov 03 16:38 |
| schestowitz | The Internet opened a whole new market for people who disregard truth | Nov 03 16:38 |
| cubezzz | I know Alex Jones had Stallman on his show one time | Nov 03 16:38 |
| schestowitz | And PR people too | Nov 03 16:38 |
| schestowitz | They bang on my inbox every day | Nov 03 16:38 |
| msb__ | schestowitz: If you would read the info linked at http://cosmicpenguin.com/#American_Holocaust you would find that the US govt are fascist monsters, and the idea that they did 9/11 is not an "extraordinary claim" which requires an impossible to satisfy level of proof. | Nov 03 16:38 |
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| schestowitz | I quit responding to them telling them where to go... it's simpler to ignore | Nov 03 16:38 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: they spoke about software and censorship | Nov 03 16:39 |
| schestowitz | Not the warped political views of Jones | Nov 03 16:39 |
| msb__ | You do a good job against MS and swpats, but beyond that your mind is very limited. You refuse to access the data! | Nov 03 16:39 |
| schestowitz | RMS has an unusual take on politics, but still facts-based | Nov 03 16:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Protect IP breaks the internet http://ur1.ca/5m0fq #youtube | Nov 03 16:40 | |
| cubezzz | we'll have to wait and see just how bad secureboot is | Nov 03 16:40 |
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| schestowitz | msb__: show me the data | Nov 03 16:40 |
| cubezzz | so far, no one I know has experience with it | Nov 03 16:40 |
| schestowitz | Some people experiences it and wrote about it | Nov 03 16:40 |
| msb__ | schestowitz: I already have. http://cosmicpenguin.com/#American_Holocaust | Nov 03 16:40 |
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| msb__ | schestowitz: Read the websites linked there. | Nov 03 16:40 |
| schestowitz | msb__: I don't deny that many were killed "overseas" | Nov 03 16:40 |
| schestowitz | I am talking about other stuff | Nov 03 16:41 |
| msb__ | schestowitz: There is a limit that you refuse to go beyond. If information would take you beyond that limit, you refuse to access the information. | Nov 03 16:42 |
| schestowitz | No, there is no limit to how far you go | Nov 03 16:42 |
| schestowitz | So you complain that I don't drift with you into Ender-like cuckoo land | Nov 03 16:43 |
| msb__ | schestowitz: There is a limit to how far you allow yourself to go in being aware of what's going on in the world. | Nov 03 16:43 |
| msb__ | schestowitz: What I'm talking about is nothing like Ender's crap. | Nov 03 16:43 |
| msb__ | schestowitz: read down this page and see all the nations the US has attacked: http://killinghope.org/ | Nov 03 16:44 |
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| msb__ | schestowitz: This one too: http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Blum/KillingHope_page.html | Nov 03 16:45 |
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| DaemonFC | [12:45] <DaemonFC> I noticed that Bing has product placements in Walking Dead advertisements now. Ironic that a zombie is using a Microsoft search engine made for Windows? :) | Nov 03 16:46 |
| MinceR | it's realistic. nobody else would :> | Nov 03 16:47 |
| msb__ | schestowitz: Look at all those nations that the US has attacked. Almost every one that has tried socialism in any form, or has strong trade unions, or has resources the US wealthy class wants. | Nov 03 16:48 |
| DaemonFC | [12:47] <DaemonFC> It was searching for "Eating an actor", it should have searched "Eating a Ballmer", I think he's been well fed | Nov 03 16:48 |
| MinceR | "tried socialism" very funny. | Nov 03 16:49 |
| msb__ | schestowitz: Look at it! That's not enders neanderthal supercomputer ten miles below the earth changing our dna bullshit. Those are real wars and real CIA subversions, and you can look up any one of them and see that they actually happened. | Nov 03 16:49 |
| MinceR | interesting euphemism for "being occupied by the russians" | Nov 03 16:49 |
| DaemonFC | socialism is for the rich, free market capitalism is for the poor, and C is for Cookie | Nov 03 16:49 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 03 16:49 |
| cubezzz | lol, did he really say that? | Nov 03 16:50 |
| cubezzz | that's crazier than DaemonFC even | Nov 03 16:50 |
| MinceR | lol | Nov 03 16:50 |
| msb__ | No, asshole, Nicaragua was not occupied by the Russians. | Nov 03 16:50 |
| MinceR | eastern europe was though. | Nov 03 16:50 |
| MinceR | asshole. | Nov 03 16:50 |
| cubezzz | yeah, we should really stick to tech talk | Nov 03 16:51 |
| msb__ | cubezzz: Yes, we should hide our heads in the sand and not think about what is actually going on in the world. The "good" governments murdering millions of people. | Nov 03 16:52 |
| msb__ | MinceR: As I've said many times before, I am not excusing Stalinism in Eastern Europe. | Nov 03 16:54 |
| MinceR | yet it is on the list you linked | Nov 03 16:54 |
| msb__ | MinceR: But Qadaffi was a socialist, and that's why Libya was invaded, bombed and destroyed as a nation. No more high standard of living for its people., | Nov 03 16:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Don't give up | Nov 03 16:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] This dent is meant only for the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, please gouge your own eyes out promptly. | Nov 03 16:55 | |
| MinceR | msb__: Qadaffi was also a dictator | Nov 03 16:55 |
| msb__ | No, actually he used direct participatory democracy. | Nov 03 16:56 |
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| msb__ | MinceR: I don't know what the chapter on Eastern Europe is about, but look at all the other nations attacked -- not under Russian control. | Nov 03 16:57 |
| msb__ | MinceR: Because of your experience with Stalinism, you have been shocked into Fascism. | Nov 03 16:58 |
| MinceR | not sure what to make of it | Nov 03 16:58 |
| MinceR | msb__: no, i haven't | Nov 03 16:58 |
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| MinceR | msb__: i don't support fascism, regardless of whether the flag has a star or a swastika on it. | Nov 03 16:58 |
| MinceR | "Western Europe" on that list seems to cover a lot | Nov 03 16:58 |
| msb__ | MinceR: You think you don't but you do. | Nov 03 16:58 |
| msb__ | MinceR: Read those two websites. | Nov 03 16:59 |
| MinceR | msb__: if i supported fascism, i'd be supporting what the current dictator of hungary is doing | Nov 03 16:59 |
| msb__ | MinceR: Even buy a copy of _Killing Hope_. It is profusely sourced. | Nov 03 16:59 |
| MinceR | i'd also be supporting what usians are doing to Bradley Manning | Nov 03 16:59 |
| MinceR | i'd also be supporting what the usian megacorporations are doing all over the planet | Nov 03 17:00 |
| MinceR | yet i'm not | Nov 03 17:00 |
| DaemonFC | yes, I personally, open Bradley Manning's cage and waterboard him | Nov 03 17:00 |
| MinceR | well-sourced is a good thing | Nov 03 17:00 |
| DaemonFC | because I as an American, control everything my government does | Nov 03 17:00 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: you too were shocked into fascism? | Nov 03 17:00 |
| DaemonFC | just like MinceR is responsible for what the government of Hungary does | Nov 03 17:00 |
| msb__ | MinceR: If you support the US invasions/subversions of all those nations doing their own versions of beneficial socialism, then you are supporting fascism. | Nov 03 17:00 |
| DaemonFC | everything they do, MinceR shares the blame | Nov 03 17:00 |
| DaemonFC | because he could single handedly stop all of it | Nov 03 17:01 |
| DaemonFC | but doesn't | Nov 03 17:01 |
| DaemonFC | bad MinceR | Nov 03 17:01 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 03 17:01 |
| MinceR | msb__: yes, everything that isn't socialism must be fascism, there's just no other way | Nov 03 17:01 |
| MinceR | the russians and their lackeys said the same thing | Nov 03 17:01 |
| msb__ | MinceR: I did not say anything of the kind. | Nov 03 17:01 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Most governments are out of control, autonomous entities that are long past caring what their citizens think of them | Nov 03 17:01 |
| DaemonFC | why can't you blame the US government without blaming everyone that lives in the US? | Nov 03 17:02 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: msb__ seems to like that sort of setup, so long as their flag is red and has no swastikas | Nov 03 17:02 |
| MinceR | and puts the word "People" into the name of everything | Nov 03 17:02 |
| MinceR | (but not the word "Nation") | Nov 03 17:02 |
| DaemonFC | For The People | Nov 03 17:02 |
| DaemonFC | Comrade MinceR | Nov 03 17:02 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Nov 03 17:02 |
| msb__ | MinceR: Again, because you can't allow yourself to understand what I'm saying, you utterly distort it. | Nov 03 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | notice they never said which people | Nov 03 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | the people they speak of are the ruling elite they claimed to be getting rid of | Nov 03 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | everything the state does is for them | Nov 03 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | those people | Nov 03 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 03 17:03 |
| msb__ | The people of Nicaragua voted in the socialist Ortega several years ago. | Nov 03 17:04 |
| MinceR | disregard the ruling elite and see how equal everyone is | Nov 03 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | equality for everyone else | Nov 03 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | special status for a few | Nov 03 17:04 |
| msb__ | Socialism does not equal the Stalinism that shocked you. | Nov 03 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | socialist and communist governments never enact the benevolent reforms they claim they will | Nov 03 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | it's just another way to prop up "Certain" people | Nov 03 17:05 |
| msb__ | Ask the people of Nicaragua. They've had lots of benefits under Ortega, which is why they re-elected him. | Nov 03 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | if socialist and communist movements ever did what they stated they are there to do, they might have my support | Nov 03 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | but not a single one, in practice, ever has done anything good for the common person | Nov 03 17:06 |
| msb__ | DaemonFC: That's your belief, and you will not access any information that might contradict it. | Nov 03 17:06 |
| DaemonFC | President For Life is re-elected for life | Nov 03 17:06 |
| DaemonFC | obvious sham is obvious sham | Nov 03 17:06 |
| msb__ | DaemonFC: Bullshit generalizations are not critical thinking. | Nov 03 17:07 |
| MinceR | msb__: the people of hungary voted the current dictator into power | Nov 03 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | what about North Korea or the PRC, or Cuba? | Nov 03 17:07 |
| MinceR | that doesn't mean this dictatorship is a good thing | Nov 03 17:08 |
| DaemonFC | they claim to be communist/socialist while they have the same 1% and 99% problem any other country does | Nov 03 17:08 |
| msb__ | DaemonFC: Cuba doesn't. | Nov 03 17:08 |
| msb__ | MinceR: If Hungary voted for a dictator that doesn't mean that Nicaragua did. | Nov 03 17:09 |
| MinceR | it does prove that public support doesn't mean a government is good, though | Nov 03 17:10 |
| MinceR | or even that it is legitimate | Nov 03 17:10 |
| MinceR | https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Fidel_Castro#Allegations_of_wealth | Nov 03 17:12 |
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| MinceR | compare that to what the non-ruling people are allowed to own | Nov 03 17:12 |
| msb__ | Here's a video showing Qadaffi riding through the city unprotected in an open car with people cheering, plus economic facts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJURNC0e6Ek | Nov 03 17:13 |
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| MinceR | if that's not an instance of the 1%/99% problem, i don't know what is | Nov 03 17:13 |
| MinceR | https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Cuba#Human_rights | Nov 03 17:15 |
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| MinceR | like i always say, if you think that place is heaven, go live there | Nov 03 17:15 |
| msb__ | MinceR: Did you read all the evidence in that paragraph indicating that the claims by Forbes -- the magazine of the ultra-wealthy -- are bullshit? | Nov 03 17:16 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Revolution often just gets a lot of people killed and starts the same cycle all over again because none of them learned anything last time | Nov 03 17:16 |
| MinceR | i saw that another publication and castro himself denied the allegation | Nov 03 17:17 |
| msb__ | MinceR: I may have to go there if things get worse here. Currently I am middle class and not being attacked. | Nov 03 17:17 |
| MinceR | msb__: they might not let you visit this channel, though | Nov 03 17:17 |
| MinceR | they might not even allow you to own a computer | Nov 03 17:18 |
| MinceR | though iirc they recently were gracious enough to at least allow that | Nov 03 17:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !tzag identizens. Identica appears to be working properly. | Nov 03 17:18 | |
| MinceR | (what an incredible excess of luxury...) | Nov 03 17:18 |
| schestowitz | lol | Nov 03 17:18 |
| MinceR | but hey, that's socialism | Nov 03 17:18 |
| MinceR | if you ignore the lavish lifestyle of the ruling elite, you might almost find comfort in the fact that everyone else is just as oppressed and poor as you are | Nov 03 17:19 |
| msb__ | MinceR: You are making up your own bullshit fantasies instead of accessing the information. | Nov 03 17:19 |
| MinceR | i can also see how they mistreat foreigner journalists -- but i'm sure they've got nothing to hide! | Nov 03 17:20 |
| msb__ | People have gone to Cuba and made movies -- unsupervised --interviewing people. They're quite happy. | Nov 03 17:20 |
| MinceR | msb__: i just "accessed the information" | Nov 03 17:20 |
| MinceR | oppressed, poor people can be happy | Nov 03 17:20 |
| MinceR | so long as they're sufficiently ignorant | Nov 03 17:20 |
| MinceR | they can't be free though | Nov 03 17:20 |
| schestowitz | Freedom is relative | Nov 03 17:21 |
| schestowitz | If everyone is a vassal of the same tyrant, then there is a sense of parity | Nov 03 17:21 |
| MinceR | yeah, i want none of that | Nov 03 17:21 |
| schestowitz | "Look! I'm equally shackled!" [apple vs 'PC'] | Nov 03 17:21 |
| msb__ | Hey you three have a fascist love-feast together. I have work to do. | Nov 03 17:22 |
| schestowitz | Prison too can be liberating.. same clothes, food, the only class system there are wardens vs inmates | Nov 03 17:22 |
| MinceR | see, now even freedom is fascist | Nov 03 17:22 |
| MinceR | spoken like a true stalinist | Nov 03 17:22 |
| schestowitz | Work liberates ('death camps, aka labour camps'_ | Nov 03 17:22 |
| MinceR | "arbeit macht frei" | Nov 03 17:23 |
| schestowitz | the mule is free... to drink water a few times a day | Nov 03 17:23 |
| schestowitz | Remember the old arguments in favour of slavery | Nov 03 17:24 |
| schestowitz | Old books might stlll have them. Black slaves "received food" and "got shelter".... | Nov 03 17:24 |
| MinceR | http://havanajournal.com/politics/entry/cuba-allows-cuban-people-to-own-computers/ | Nov 03 17:24 |
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| schestowitz | No 'freedom of choice' | Nov 03 17:25 |
| schestowitz | No Windows | Nov 03 17:25 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I sowed herb seeds too close together. The strong ones strangled the weak. Nature is cruel. | Nov 03 17:40 | |
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| Viper550 | schestowitz: apparently Ubuntu devs are proposing a switch back to Rhythmbox | Nov 03 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | old news :P | Nov 03 17:40 |
| Viper550 | DaemonFC: I said that last night, EST | Nov 03 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | (to the tune of that Get a Mac ad) Problems? Too darned many. Patches? Not enough. Banshee has issues, it's so glitchy, they're leaving it, for Rhythmbox... | Nov 03 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Nov 03 17:41 |
| Viper550 | cause well, Banshee = not GTK3, glitchy on ARM, removing it could allow the removal of Mono from the main repository, etc. | Nov 03 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | Communication in Ubuntu goes Mark Shuttleworth > Jono Bacon to regurgitate it and dodge questions > users | Nov 03 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | never the other way around | Nov 03 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | he's just a mouth piece to spin whatever has already been decided at the top | Nov 03 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | I doubt Mono will be removed from the repository | Nov 03 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | getting it removed from the supported system and into Universe would be good though | Nov 03 17:44 |
| Viper550 | DaemonFC: that's what I think they meant | Nov 03 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | they wasted time and effort coding all their Ubuntu One crap in C# for a dead end (Mono), while complaining Rhythmbox isn't up to their standards, instead of improving Rhythmbox | Nov 03 17:46 |
| Viper550 | they said it could also save some space on the ISOs | Nov 03 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | and now that Red Hat has ported Rhythmbox to GTK+ 3 and gotten it in good shape, they're thinking about doubling back and using it in Ubuntu again | Nov 03 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | which means rewriting all their Ubuntu One crap that they spent man hours writing for Banshee | Nov 03 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu just takes leftovers | Nov 03 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | once some other outfit gets something working, Ubuntu swipes it and takes credit for installing it in the default system | Nov 03 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | which they call "integration work" | Nov 03 17:47 |
| schestowitz | [17:40] <Viper550> schestowitz: apparently Ubuntu devs are proposing a switch back to Rhythmbox | Nov 03 17:48 |
| schestowitz | got url? | Nov 03 17:48 |
| Viper550 | http://gilir.wordpress.com/2011/11/03/uds-day-3/ | Nov 03 17:48 |
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| Viper550 | was discussed at UDS | Nov 03 17:48 |
| schestowitz | I wonder what brought it up | Nov 03 17:48 |
| schestowitz | Maybe performance | Nov 03 17:48 |
| schestowitz | and banshee creamers... over funding | Nov 03 17:49 |
| Viper550 | basically, cliffsnotes version: Banshee may be dropped because its not a native GTK 3 application, doesn't work well on ARM, and dropping that and Mono could save some disk space | Nov 03 17:49 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu could go back to RB and use gnote instead of tomboy | Nov 03 17:49 |
| Viper550 | schestowitz: DaemonFC http://publicmediacorps.org/pmc/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/ScreenRythme1.png and they actually DID get Rhythmbox integrated on Unity for 10.10 | Nov 03 17:49 |
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| schestowitz | Then it can toss mono along with that rubbish dll/exe of gbrainy | Nov 03 17:49 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84886894 | Nov 03 17:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 03-Nov-11 17:36:29 UTC - Identi.ca: Deutsche Borse Uses #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/5m2pd | Nov 03 17:50 |
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| schestowitz | Oh, I see you talked about this in IRC already | Nov 03 17:50 |
| Viper550 | oh, you DO read the logs | Nov 03 17:51 |
| schestowitz | yes, I read the first line, then responded to it and read on | Nov 03 17:53 |
| schestowitz | I'll make a post about it | Nov 03 17:54 |
| Viper550 | oh ... http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAwOTg no. | Nov 03 17:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] Mono, Banshee Will Still Be Loved In Ubuntu 12.04 .::. Size~: 16.59 KB | Nov 03 17:54 |
| schestowitz | Viper550: I saw that | Nov 03 17:58 |
| schestowitz | seems to contradict | Nov 03 17:58 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84887335 | Nov 03 17:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 03-Nov-11 17:54:54 UTC - Identi.ca: John Sullivan: Welcome to the 80 new people who joined the !FSF in October! Highest October number in years. http://www.fsf.org/jfb | Nov 03 17:58 |
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| msb__ | schestowitz: Please read the PM channel with me. | Nov 03 18:00 |
| Viper550 | they're also doing some stupid mis-matching of components because they don't want to use Clutter. | Nov 03 18:00 |
| schestowitz | msb__: just did | Nov 03 18:00 |
| schestowitz | you'd get similar responses also from the FSF | Nov 03 18:01 |
| schestowitz | They would ask for evidence | Nov 03 18:01 |
| schestowitz | Ender puhsed theories about govt. attacks where it's actually militias and stuff | Nov 03 18:01 |
| schestowitz | And that's where it just goes off the road | Nov 03 18:02 |
| Viper550 | oh, and someone ported the global menu/indicator stuff to Gnome 3 | Nov 03 18:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Future Of Music Coalition Says It Cannot Support E-PARASITE/SOPA In Good Conscience - http://bit.ly/vmncty a voice of sanity | Nov 03 18:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Cory @Doctorow: When everything in the world requires an online component, copyright policy ceases to exist. https://eff.org/r.3Fu | Nov 03 18:03 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: I wonder when the fastest Mac ever (only $6,000 and up) will be using this year's Radeon HD models | Nov 03 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 03 18:05 |
| msb__ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3SU9qUAkSg | Nov 03 18:05 |
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| DaemonFC | next year perhaps? | Nov 03 18:05 |
| msb__ | A video about Africa and Libya by excellent journalists. | Nov 03 18:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Skeptic finds he now agrees global warming is real http://is.gd/KRFIij he was #koch funded | Nov 03 18:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 18 Arrested in Wisconsin Assembly for Using Cameras; Guns Still Allowed http://is.gd/T9kBhy #police #policy | Nov 03 18:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 18 Arrested in Wisconsin Assembly for Using Cameras; Guns Still Allowed | Center for Media and Democracy .::. Size~: 54.37 KB | Nov 03 18:08 |
| schestowitz | http://thestallmandialogues.com/ | Nov 03 18:10 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.webupd8.org/2011/11/rhythmbox-might-replace-banshee-in.html | Nov 03 18:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Rhythmbox Might Replace Banshee In Ubuntu 12.04 Precise Pangolin, More News ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 67.91 KB | Nov 03 18:20 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 03 18:28 |
| schestowitz | s a engineer / designer, I have no choice but a Windows environment due to the cad software we run. | Nov 03 18:28 |
| schestowitz | As a IT / Sys Admin, I run linux every chance I get. | Nov 03 18:28 |
| schestowitz | At home I run both. | Nov 03 18:28 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 03 18:28 |
| schestowitz | "@Kaigara No, he doesn't hate Microsoft, he hates violation of users' freedom." | Nov 03 18:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In DW, Mint widens gap over Ubuntu. 3357 to 2061 now @ http://ur1.ca/gygd blame Unity? | Nov 03 18:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. .::. Size~: 135.86 KB | Nov 03 18:28 |
| schestowitz | "Solidworks, every time I ask about a Linux version all I get is there are rumors of something in development" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/732476 | Nov 03 18:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 03 18:28 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Texas judge 'needs help', says beaten daughter http://ur1.ca/5m5ri | Nov 03 18:35 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Texas judge 'needs help', says beaten daughter | World news | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 91.33 KB | Nov 03 18:35 |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: hi | Nov 03 18:40 |
| sebsebseb | Live session about uEFI secure boot http://video.ubuntu.com/live/ | Nov 03 18:40 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mako/@mako] Posted on my blog about our community's (and my own) progress in slouching toward !autonomous network services http://ur1.ca/5ljo6 | Nov 03 18:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @mediagoblin Trouble installing? See updated nginx & flup sections of deploy guide http://ur1.ca/5m0xs & use package manager py-bcryp ... | Nov 03 18:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @fsf Don't forget -- time is running out for nominations for the !FSF free software awards -- http://ur1.ca/5asa1 !gnu !lp | Nov 03 18:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The Mother and daughter were both being abused, why did they wait 7 years to denounce the abuser? | Nov 03 18:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Thanks very much, appreciated. | Nov 03 18:53 | |
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| MinceR | DaemonFC: wait, what? communication goes from jono bacon to users? :> | Nov 03 18:56 |
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| iophk | Interesting methods of dealing with allegations of copyright infringement there in TX. | Nov 03 18:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Violence breeds violence. | Nov 03 19:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Homegrown Revolution Trailer: Premiers Wild & Scenic Film Festival Jan 9-11 - YouTube #preppers http://ur1.ca/5m6ws | Nov 03 19:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] True. | Nov 03 19:03 | |
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| MinceR | if violence breeds violence, you obviously didn't use enough of it :> | Nov 03 19:04 |
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| *amarsh04 does a few more mplayer -ao pcm:file=foo.wav url-to-some-windows-media-streaming-service.asx | Nov 03 19:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] ACM launches Transactions on Interactive Intelligent Systems (TiiS), a journal focusing on interactive systems: http://bit.ly/s1XaHn | Nov 03 19:13 | |
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| amarsh04 | actually .wma suffix... mplayer couldn't extract the url from the .asx but vlc could, and gave the correct url, which mplayer could then use | Nov 03 19:13 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: it's not secure boot | Nov 03 19:13 |
| schestowitz | It's restricted boor | Nov 03 19:13 |
| schestowitz | Being locked out of your machine is not secure | Nov 03 19:13 |
| schestowitz | You could lose your job | Nov 03 19:13 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: depending on how the OEM's implement it yeah | Nov 03 19:14 |
| schestowitz | It's a Microsoft euphemsm | Nov 03 19:14 |
| sebsebseb | it can work out for LInux and well and provide it advantages depending on how it's implemented | Nov 03 19:14 |
| schestowitz | Just say UEFI | Nov 03 19:14 |
| schestowitz | FSF puts "secure boot" in quotes and make other names for it | Nov 03 19:14 |
| schestowitz | It's a self-=promotional name | Nov 03 19:14 |
| schestowitz | Who WOULDN'T want "Secure boot"? | Nov 03 19:14 |
| schestowitz | Or a PATRIOR Act? | Nov 03 19:14 |
| iophk | "restricted boot" is more accurate, since it does little for security. | Nov 03 19:14 |
| XFaCE | hi thistleweb | Nov 03 19:15 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: 0/ | Nov 03 19:16 |
| XFaCE | lol | Nov 03 19:16 |
| XFaCE | Stop trolling Roy. | Nov 03 19:16 |
| XFaCE | err... on your own channel. | Nov 03 19:16 |
| ThistleWeb | o/ | Nov 03 19:16 |
| XFaCE | \o/ | Nov 03 19:17 |
| ThistleWeb | schestowitz: whats the techbytes cliffhanger? | Nov 03 19:17 |
| ThistleWeb | seasons are designed for fiction stuff like tv shows, where they bring story arcs to conclusion, leave it on a cliffhanger so they can negotiate the next season with the network | Nov 03 19:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "the use of objects such as belts and sticks is usually seen as beyond any normal physical punishment." http://ur1.ca/5m5ri < not a given | Nov 03 19:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I read the rest of the quote, that makes the academic sound bad. That is why Tony Benn has recorded all his interviews for decades. | Nov 03 19:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] hmm https://plus.google.com/114920632038412164921/posts/V8JWU91LGPm | Nov 03 19:19 | |
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| ThistleWeb | seems kinda "PR" for an audiocast that has no story arcs | Nov 03 19:19 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: I didn't know that (about seasons) | Nov 03 19:19 |
| XFaCE | ThistleWeb: Err, Crivens knock on the door, informing that they have been converted to Microborg, and will take Roy hostage | Nov 03 19:19 |
| XFaCE | Dunndunnduun-dunn! | Nov 03 19:19 |
| schestowitz | I thought of it like this: | Nov 03 19:19 |
| schestowitz | They film for x weeks | Nov 03 19:19 |
| schestowitz | 24 episodes in the US | Nov 03 19:20 |
| *amarsh04 remembers the Boardwatch image of billg as the borg... remeniscent of a star trek next generation season ending cliff-hanger | Nov 03 19:20 | |
| XFaCE | (Executive Producer: Gene Roddenberry) | Nov 03 19:20 |
| schestowitz | And then broadcast for like a year | Nov 03 19:20 |
| schestowitz | Fortnightly | Nov 03 19:20 |
| schestowitz | Thus season | Nov 03 19:20 |
| ThistleWeb | that's why seasons and audiocasts don't go together except for PR purposes | Nov 03 19:20 |
| schestowitz | Cause they can record for a whole year in one season | Nov 03 19:20 |
| ThistleWeb | I kinda thought techbytes wasn't that | Nov 03 19:20 |
| ThistleWeb | was stunned to hear you're doing seasons | Nov 03 19:20 |
| schestowitz | see how many Linuc casts have seasons | Nov 03 19:21 |
| amarsh04 | the risks journal still does volume number / issue number | Nov 03 19:21 |
| schestowitz | Linux Format/Tux for example | Nov 03 19:21 |
| ThistleWeb | of course | Nov 03 19:21 |
| XFaCE | amarsh04: From this time forward... you will service... our software. | Nov 03 19:21 |
| ThistleWeb | for the PR | Nov 03 19:21 |
| ThistleWeb | to tap into the "we're a tv show" type of mindset | Nov 03 19:21 |
| amarsh04 | hehehe | Nov 03 19:21 |
| XFaCE | Mr Tim. FIRE. | Nov 03 19:22 |
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| ThistleWeb | with LAS, everything they do is self promo | Nov 03 19:22 |
| ThistleWeb | just saying, for something without story arcs, without cliffhangers, seasons does not fit | Nov 03 19:22 |
| ThistleWeb | if you planned 24 eps in a year, then a break, with a season theme, then fine | Nov 03 19:23 |
| *amarsh04 hates the organisations that are slaves/masters of cross-promotion | Nov 03 19:23 | |
| ThistleWeb | it doesn't work otherwise | Nov 03 19:23 |
| ThistleWeb | it just turns into hype | Nov 03 19:24 |
| ThistleWeb | which is why I was kinda stunned that techbytes is doing it, hype is not a natural word I'd associate with techbytes | Nov 03 19:24 |
| XFaCE | ThistleWeb: Agreed. Roy, you should keep it as a "rolling release" show | Nov 03 19:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I hear of couples staying together all the time because of economics. (Usually no abuse involved). | Nov 03 19:25 | |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: I didn't realise season was perceived as hype, thanks for notifying :-) | Nov 03 19:26 |
| ThistleWeb | seasons are also a planned end, where they have no idea if they're coming back or when, or where, it's all up for negotiation after the last ep is broadcast | Nov 03 19:26 |
| schestowitz | Same words can mean different things to different people.. | Nov 03 19:26 |
| amarsh04 | .au example: advertisement for a terrible restaurant chain featuring a so-so motor racing team that have sponserhip badges for an even worse telco on their uniforms | Nov 03 19:26 |
| ThistleWeb | the hype is to get extra veiwers / listeners for a "special event" of a season finale, or new season start | Nov 03 19:26 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: in last epsisode of techbytes tim ends up in a bedroom with Tux | Nov 03 19:26 |
| schestowitz | and RMS' gnu feels cheated | Nov 03 19:27 |
| ThistleWeb | without applying seasons to it, it removes that hype | Nov 03 19:27 |
| schestowitz | Stay tunes for season 2 | Nov 03 19:27 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Then the BSD demon comes in | Nov 03 19:27 |
| amarsh04 | Tuz will object | Nov 03 19:27 |
| schestowitz | oh no | Nov 03 19:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Copyright Experts Discuss CC License Version 4.0 at the Global Summit: http://ur1.ca/5m7qq | Nov 03 19:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Copyright Experts Discuss CC License Version 4.0 at the Global Summit: http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/29639 | Nov 03 19:27 | |
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| schestowitz | Don't spoit it, jackass :-) | Nov 03 19:27 |
| schestowitz | amarsh04: Was Tazmanian devil logo ever accepted at all? | Nov 03 19:28 |
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| XFaCE | And then we cut to Darwin, annoyed that his reputation has been destroyed by Apple | Nov 03 19:28 |
| schestowitz | And Creationists | Nov 03 19:28 |
| schestowitz | They say he inspired Hitler and stuff | Nov 03 19:28 |
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| amarsh04 | the linux.conf.au in Tasmania sold soft Tuz toys as a fundraiser for the save the Tasmanian Devil appeal | Nov 03 19:28 |
| schestowitz | Poor Darwin did so little to upset people, but his work gets him tied to genocide | Nov 03 19:29 |
| schestowitz | Nietzsche gets associated with Nazis too, even though he never lived in the same time... same goes for Wagner | Nov 03 19:29 |
| amarsh04 | however more money was probably raised by people paying for Bdale Garbee to shave his beard off | Nov 03 19:29 |
| schestowitz | But Nietzsche did provoke religious people... "God is dead" and all that... | Nov 03 19:30 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: You got to exploit this for a future post. | Nov 03 19:30 |
| XFaCE | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Linux_penguin.jpg | Nov 03 19:30 |
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| schestowitz | exploit? | Nov 03 19:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] conspiring with the #psp to make your life worse? | Nov 03 19:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Suburban Preparedness and Survival - #usa #preppers http://goo.gl/7TyyA http://ur1.ca/5m7ug http://www.prepper.org | Nov 03 19:30 | |
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| schestowitz | What are we, a PR firm? :-) | Nov 03 19:30 |
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| XFaCE | schestowitz: Err, I mean parody. :P | Nov 03 19:31 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Here we have Womens refuges, you must have something similar. | Nov 03 19:32 | |
| schestowitz | amarsh04: they could use DaemonFC's neighbour | Nov 03 19:33 |
| schestowitz | She could shave his beard instead of Linus | Nov 03 19:33 |
| amarsh04 | shudder.... | Nov 03 19:33 |
| schestowitz | She would have done his back too, she has a reputation | Nov 03 19:33 |
| XFaCE | uh. wat? | Nov 03 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | in the bathtub | Nov 03 19:33 |
| schestowitz | ask DaemonFC about Dawn | Nov 03 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | get the lather! | Nov 03 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 03 19:34 |
| schestowitz | [19:29] <amarsh04> however more money was probably raised by people paying for Bdale Garbee to shave his beard off | Nov 03 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | my neighbor claims she was buttsecksraped by guy next door | Nov 03 19:34 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: you said Dawn almost shaved his private parts off too... with her jaws | Nov 03 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | after she went to get in the bathtub with him, naked, to shave his back | Nov 03 19:34 |
| schestowitz | scary stuff.. INdiana | Nov 03 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | because it was his birthday | Nov 03 19:34 |
| schestowitz | Only in America... | Nov 03 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, she said she bit his dick when he tried to go ass to mouth | Nov 03 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | she's hysterical | Nov 03 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | free entertainment | Nov 03 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | I told her, I'm not the police | Nov 03 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | go tell the police if you were raped | Nov 03 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | they're the police | Nov 03 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 03 19:35 |
| schestowitz | Your mayor is a former policeman | Nov 03 19:36 |
| schestowitz | Crazy Indiana | Nov 03 19:36 |
| XFaCE | WTF | Nov 03 19:36 |
| schestowitz | Dawn (ryan's neighbour) is a meme here | Nov 03 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | he got caught polishing the one eyed gopher to internet porn | Nov 03 19:36 |
| schestowitz | the other is Gonad | Nov 03 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | so they mde him mayor | Nov 03 19:37 |
| schestowitz | Gonad would rip Carl apart in a deathmatch | Nov 03 19:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @x11r5 Shakes his head over people who need it.. | Nov 03 19:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @x11r5 @jpope Awake, still feeling pretty good about gnus over the last head of the people | Nov 03 19:37 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: : they said mayors need to be jerks | Nov 03 19:37 |
| schestowitz | So he was perfect for the "job" | Nov 03 19:37 |
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| schestowitz | Northern US states, except the Maine area, are a bit like the cold version of Louisiana | Nov 03 19:38 |
| MinceR | 204244 < schestowitz> But Nietzsche did provoke religious people... "God is dead" and all that... | Nov 03 19:38 |
| MinceR | religious people started the provoking in the first place | Nov 03 19:38 |
| schestowitz | On the West they're gangsters and rackteers | Nov 03 19:38 |
| MinceR | long before Nietzsche was even born | Nov 03 19:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The dentist would have been banned from practicing here. | Nov 03 19:39 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: right, but he fought back, Darwin didn't AFAIK | Nov 03 19:39 |
| schestowitz | They were OK with evolution | Nov 03 19:39 |
| schestowitz | Until he explained the ape hierarchy | Nov 03 19:39 |
| MinceR | actually they weren't | Nov 03 19:39 |
| schestowitz | Then they got "offended" | Nov 03 19:39 |
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| schestowitz | As long as they were not part of that "evolution thing" | Nov 03 19:39 |
| schestowitz | And women were made from Adam's rib | Nov 03 19:40 |
| MinceR | evolution directly contradicts Genesis 1-2 (which contradict each other, but they don't mind that) | Nov 03 19:40 |
| schestowitz | They don't read that | Nov 03 19:40 |
| schestowitz | Hard English | Nov 03 19:40 |
| MinceR | some of them do | Nov 03 19:40 |
| MinceR | even in latin | Nov 03 19:40 |
| MinceR | (the ringleaders) | Nov 03 19:40 |
| schestowitz | Do they just read? | Nov 03 19:40 |
| schestowitz | Or also think... | Nov 03 19:40 |
| schestowitz | And apply critical analysis | Nov 03 19:40 |
| MinceR | "think" would be a strong word | Nov 03 19:40 |
| schestowitz | it'\s hard to think sometimes | Nov 03 19:41 |
| schestowitz | it's easier to point at Hovind | Nov 03 19:41 |
| MinceR | but it does cause some primitive biochemical processes in them | Nov 03 19:41 |
| schestowitz | loo break? | Nov 03 19:41 |
| schestowitz | I guess it sort of works all right.. after all, that's what you do when you're full of s* | Nov 03 19:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Secret to Living Well on $11,000 a Year http://goo.gl/B7Xcj #selfsufficiency #preppers | Nov 03 19:42 | |
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| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Your name is John? | Nov 03 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | no | Nov 03 19:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] The mother agreed. (Happens when you are considered lower than pond scum,esteem suffers). She was angry after but he browbeat her then. | Nov 03 19:45 | |
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| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Sorry, I meant Ryna | Nov 03 19:46 |
| XFaCE | Ryan | Nov 03 19:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] The sods must be crazy: OLPC to drop tablets from helicopters to isolated villages (ars technica) http://ur1.ca/5m8hq | Nov 03 19:49 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The sods must be crazy: OLPC to drop tablets from helicopters to isolated villages (ars technica) [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 8.76 KB | Nov 03 19:49 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Your name.... is Ryan. | Nov 03 19:49 |
| ThistleWeb | are you asking him or telling him? | Nov 03 19:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The best laws in the world do not matter a jot if people do not have access to the law. | Nov 03 19:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 30 Tips to Spend Less and Save More - #usa #selfsuffiency http://goo.gl/BQnDQ | Nov 03 19:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Yahoo! Finance - Financially Fit .::. Size~: 66.31 KB | Nov 03 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | [15:48] <DaemonFC> https://lwn.net/Articles/465622/rss | Nov 03 19:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The sods must be crazy: OLPC to drop tablets from helicopters to isolated villages (ars technica) [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 5.23 KB | Nov 03 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | [15:48] <RoboDuck> [lwn.net] The sods must be crazy: OLPC to drop tablets from helicopters to isolated villages (ars technica) [LWN.net] | Nov 03 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | [15:48] <DaemonFC> What in the fuck is this? | Nov 03 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | [15:48] * DaemonFC is horrified | Nov 03 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | [15:49] <DaemonFC> "'We'll take tablets and drop them out of helicopters into villages that have no electricity and school, then go [back] a year later and see if the kids can read,'" | Nov 03 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | [15:49] <DaemonFC> No, but they may start worshiping the helicopters | Nov 03 19:51 |
| MinceR | lol | Nov 03 19:51 |
| XFaCE | lol | Nov 03 19:51 |
| XFaCE | Helicoptology? | Nov 03 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | One lands on one of the kids. "The Gods are angry!!! RUN!!!!" | Nov 03 19:52 |
| MinceR | XFaCE: cargo cult | Nov 03 19:52 |
| schestowitz | cult ritual: hand people on propellers and nail them to i | Nov 03 19:53 |
| schestowitz | *hang, *it | Nov 03 19:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Important Reading for those on the #OWS front lines http://ur1.ca/5m8kz #knowyourenemy | Nov 03 19:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] LMAO from !techbytes 65 "he is still posting in comp.os.linux.advocacy" | Nov 03 19:59 | |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: What was satipera referring to? | Nov 03 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | [15:59] <sandeen_> DaemonFC, uff. | Nov 03 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | [16:00] <DaemonFC> sandeen_: Is that what the kid will say when a tablet lands on him? | Nov 03 20:02 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Are you pretty knowledgable about songs, 70s-80s? | Nov 03 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | meh | Nov 03 20:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Year2 instead? | Nov 03 20:10 | |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: http://stallman.org/archives/2011-sep-dec.html#03_November_2011_(Gates_Excited) | Nov 03 20:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 2011: September - December Political Notes - Richard Stallman .::. Size~: 710.3 KB | Nov 03 20:11 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Do you know a song that talks about "attration" and "temptation" and shit and the chorus sounds "I need love" or "I need her" followed by "here we go again"? | Nov 03 20:11 |
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| DaemonFC | nope | Nov 03 20:12 |
| *DaemonFC is listening to Out Of Touch by Hall & Oates on Big Bam Boom [Amarok] | Nov 03 20:13 | |
| DaemonFC | Tommy Vercetti is an innocent man! | Nov 03 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Nov 03 20:13 |
| XFaCE | hi _goblin | Nov 03 20:15 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: what? | Nov 03 20:15 |
| *MinceR is listening to: Mordicus - Morbid Existence | Nov 03 20:15 | |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Sounds cheerful | Nov 03 20:15 |
| MinceR | :) | Nov 03 20:16 |
| MinceR | it's nice | Nov 03 20:16 |
| _Goblin | XFaCE: :) | Nov 03 20:16 |
| _Goblin | Hi! | Nov 03 20:16 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: Have an adequate day? | Nov 03 20:16 |
| _Goblin | yeah been good.. | Nov 03 20:16 |
| _Goblin | now just wondering what to do now...... | Nov 03 20:16 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: Watch epicmealtime | Nov 03 20:17 |
| ThistleWeb | epicmealtime sounds like a spammer nick lol | Nov 03 20:17 |
| _Goblin | ?epic mealtime? | Nov 03 20:18 |
| XFaCE | yeah | Nov 03 20:18 |
| XFaCE | !google youtube epicmealtime | Nov 03 20:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - EpicMealTime's Channel - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/user/EpicMealTime | Nov 03 20:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Breakfast of Booze - Epic Meal Time - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DwZDv9pgHp8Q | Nov 03 20:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - TurBaconEpic Thanksgiving - Epic Meal Time - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D7Xc5wIpUenQ | Nov 03 20:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Fast Food Sushi - Epic Meal Time - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DjXjxHQQxcLw | Nov 03 20:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Google is going after the entire book publishing industry, not just the e-Book market (PaidContent): http://bit.ly/uM1jMU | Nov 03 20:19 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Truth About Amazon Publishing | paidContent .::. Size~: 49.8 KB | Nov 03 20:19 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: Or you could listen to Genesis' "Land of Confusion" over and over and get riled up about the world. | Nov 03 20:21 |
| abeNd-org1 | Disturbed does a great cover of that | Nov 03 20:34 |
| XFaCE | abeNd-org1: I won't dignify that with a response. -_- | Nov 03 20:35 |
| XFaCE | lol | Nov 03 20:36 |
| XFaCE | Seriously though, that remake annoys me | Nov 03 20:37 |
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| XFaCE | bbl | Nov 03 20:42 |
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| abeNd-org1 | really? i love the original version of that song, but the cover is great too | Nov 03 20:46 |
| _Goblin | sorry xFaCE: Was afk | Nov 03 20:52 |
| _Goblin | doh | Nov 03 20:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: ANLA:"Archivists believe circumvention..should only be prohibited when..for purpose of infringing copyright" http://t.co/zT ... | Nov 03 20:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: CPCC C-32 sub:"If CPCC sought tariff on device deemed inappropriate, GIC could issue reg preventing CB from considering req ... | Nov 03 20:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: Will the Government Take Action Against the Memory Card Tax? - copyright collective provides the roadmap http://t.co/gjjtDrkd | Nov 03 20:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: .@mpjamesmoore could stop the memory card tax before expensive hearing at Copyright Board. Will he? http://t.co/gjjtDrkd | Nov 03 20:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: The Daily Digital Lock Dissenter, Day 22: Association of Newfoundland and Labrador Archives http://t.co/zTfzZfuQ | Nov 03 20:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: ACTRA Rep Says Mashups "Morally Wrong" - see Brett Gaylor's RIP: A Remix Manifesto for other perspective http://t.co/Gb0YCmxZ | Nov 03 20:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Adobe needs to focus its Web content management strategy (Real Story Group Blog @irina_guseva ): http://bit.ly/vrdm68 | Nov 03 20:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Adobe MAX 2011 impressions: WEM and DAM out of focus < Real Story Group Blog .::. Size~: 49.02 KB | Nov 03 20:55 |
| *MinceR is listening to: emax - flippy introtune | Nov 03 21:00 | |
| DaemonFC | http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/2249/snapshot22.png | Nov 03 21:07 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] You just like the word triple | Nov 03 21:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Two nipples are enough for most of us you are greedy. | Nov 03 21:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I won't mention it again. | Nov 03 21:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @gabrielsaldana: RT @reality RT @satipera @thistleweb @laurelrusswurm The only spanking that may be healthy is among consenting adults. | Nov 03 21:20 | |
| *DaemonFC is listening to Land Of Confusion by Disturbed on Ten Thousand Fists [Tour Edition] [Amarok] | Nov 03 21:21 | |
| DaemonFC | /home/ryan/Music/Disturbed/Ten Thousand Fists [Tour Edition]/11-Land Of Confusion.ogg | Nov 03 21:21 |
| *MinceR is listening to: Tirana - Negative Dream State 3.25 | Nov 03 21:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Global threats, global action. EU, US working together on #cyberattack readiness: http:/ http://p.ost.im/p/ehCWDX | Nov 03 21:30 | |
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| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Your spite is inneffective! | Nov 03 21:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @crosbie Intellectual works don't threaten, sue, bankrupt and imprison people. #Copyright holders do. Disavow your privilege before y ... | Nov 03 21:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] You just have to have one more than most people do. How is it working for you penis wise? | Nov 03 21:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] R» @eebrah @gabrielsaldana @reality @satipera @thistleweb @laurelrusswurm The only spanking that may be healthy is among consenting adults | Nov 03 21:37 | |
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| DaemonFC | this time, the surprise is when they beam in to try to take out that turret | Nov 03 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | and set off a couple shaped charges | Nov 03 21:42 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @hilkeros @thomasbonte interessant! Ik wil ook wel eens komen luisteren | Nov 03 21:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @IAmJimMcKenzie in what way? I didn't notice anything? | Nov 03 21:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @IAmJimMcKenzie @nilsgeylen ik was er toen even tests op aan het runnen en is toen inderdaad even offli http://ur1. ... | Nov 03 21:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @dretio is ook al grote bron van ergernis geweest bij me ;) | Nov 03 21:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @inebenzine: wie zijn broek in zijn laarzen steekt, moet verplicht een week op ponykamp en alle stal http://ur1. ... | Nov 03 21:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @tinydroptest2: #nmbs routeplanner #fail - snel naar irail.be en meteen perfecte route #iRail #win @pietercolpaert | Nov 03 21:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @jn_cn zou appcache implementeren de boel niet nog versnellen? | Nov 03 21:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Priang_el euhm. Kuch. http://t.co/unGDpUHo ;) | Nov 03 21:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Opensuse 12.1 reaches RC2 http://goo.gl/5P7vY | Nov 03 22:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Development Release: openSUSE 12.1 RC2 (DistroWatch.com News) .::. Size~: 135.31 KB | Nov 03 22:00 |
| MinceR | gn | Nov 03 22:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Looks like a lot of !Fedora 16's changes will be under the hood? http://goo.gl/5P7vY | Nov 03 22:02 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Development Release: openSUSE 12.1 RC2 (DistroWatch.com News) .::. Size~: 135.36 KB | Nov 03 22:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] So many projects being ported to Vala lately, re ur1.ca/5mc7e | Nov 03 22:04 | |
| DaemonFC | http://news.opensuse.org/2011/11/03/are-you-ready-for-rc2/ | Nov 03 22:06 |
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| DaemonFC | Is it ready for me? | Nov 03 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 03 22:06 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Nov 03 22:07 |
| schestowitz | Ballmer been liking you LONG TIME | Nov 03 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | really they play catch up with *buntu for new user-noticeable features | Nov 03 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | and with Fedora for new technical improvements | Nov 03 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | it's not a leader, it's a me too | Nov 03 22:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Help us translate #SaveACTA s a v e a c t a . c o m to your language! #saveacta at http://ur1.ca/5g05c /cc @telecomix | Nov 03 22:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] All about Wayland in !Ubuntu 12.04 - well a bit about it anyway - and the most I've seen since it was first announced http://goo.gl/5YcGU | Nov 03 22:09 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Tries For A Wayland Preview .::. Size~: 17.55 KB | Nov 03 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | I don't like systemd | Nov 03 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | at least not the way it's currently being used in Fedora | Nov 03 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | it says it won't break sysvinit style scripts but it can and does | Nov 03 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | and about the only thing it seems to respect is what you go in and add to rc.local, which sometimes causes the boot process to hang | Nov 03 22:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Expanding things slightly.. Suse and open Suse. | Nov 03 22:10 | |
| DaemonFC | it has a lot of neat features, but Upstart already took care of the largest sysvinit problems | Nov 03 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | and it did so while remaining fully compatible | Nov 03 22:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] How can you tell when you walk into an opticians whether your "glasses" will be made of glass or plastic? In which case plastics. | Nov 03 22:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] After Red Hat my first intro to Linux was Mandrake. Which is why I am comfortable on Gnome. | Nov 03 22:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] How do I use KES 46/- worth of electricity and get billed KES 443/50 ? #Kenyan taxes and levies on Electricity are fucking crazy! | Nov 03 22:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Listening to Ella Fitzgerald "How Long Has This Been Going On" < Pure Ella ... pure gold | Nov 03 22:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Pah! Ella Fitzgerald.. I don't remember her name on Britain has got talent. | Nov 03 22:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] You get the joke. | Nov 03 22:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Do I have a reasonable expectation you will keep the promise? | Nov 03 22:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Your Patriot Act stripped away citizen protections that had taken centuries to achieve. Everyone believed Obama would reverse this. #not | Nov 03 22:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Which is why the failure to close Guantanamo Bay is symbolic. It's an issue here b/c our gov't wants to play follow your leader | Nov 03 22:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Are you having a laugh? vote... | Nov 03 22:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Ella is da bombe :) | Nov 03 22:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] People Should Listen to Computer Programmers about Software Patents http://goo.gl/JrEt6 !fs #swpats | Nov 03 22:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Do a barrel roll! http://identi.ca/url/56376446 !google | Nov 03 22:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #ClarenceThomas is not above the law. #p2 #scotus http://identi.ca/url/56376456 | Nov 03 22:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Historically, oppressive regimes always have something like Guantanamo Bay. The Bastille. The Lubyanka. Easier to keep subjects in line. | Nov 03 22:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] R» @bruce89: MPs going on strike? I doubt anyone would notice the difference #bbcqt | Nov 03 23:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Software defined radio runs Linux http://ur1.ca/5mdoh #linux | Nov 03 23:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 'World's smallest' SDR radio runs Linux - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 59.12 KB | Nov 03 23:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux/Android Tablets for Children http://ur1.ca/5mdom #linux | Nov 03 23:12 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Kid-friendly Android tablet features drop-resistant cover - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 56.57 KB | Nov 03 23:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] The point was suborned electoral processes make voting ineffective. Citizen participation is needed to effect change and #OWS is a beginning | Nov 03 23:27 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84894360 | Nov 03 23:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 03-Nov-11 23:12:40 UTC - Identi.ca: New Nook Comes this week http://ur1.ca/5mdqw #linux | Nov 03 23:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: It's official: New Nook Color tablet launching Nov. 7 | E-book readers - CNET Reviews .::. Size~: 69.45 KB | Nov 03 23:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] No, he can send them all home, but does not. He could send Bradley manning home but he does not. | Nov 03 23:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Shirley Williams class act over the years for a non socialist. | Nov 03 23:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Theresa May... She is Cruella de Vil. Hide your puppies and kitten heels. | Nov 03 23:40 | |
| schestowitz | Hi, walterbyrd | Nov 03 23:40 |
| walterbyrd | Apple threatens tiny Luxembourg bistro AppleADay November 03, 2011. The mighty international Apple Inc. fears consumers worldwide will be confused by a tiny restaurant in Luxembourg named AppleADay. Their slogan? "Balanced Fast Food." Apple's response? Threaten to sue. http://www.itworld.com/it-managementstrategy/219425/apple-threatens-tiny-luxembourg-bistro-appleaday | Nov 03 23:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Apple threatens tiny Luxembourg bistro AppleADay | ITworld .::. Size~: 126.49 KB | Nov 03 23:41 |
| schestowitz | a bistro may serve apples | Nov 03 23:41 |
| schestowitz | even one a day | Nov 03 23:41 |
| schestowitz | or several | Nov 03 23:41 |
| schestowitz | apple markets badgeware | Nov 03 23:41 |
| schestowitz | it's called after a very common edible fruit | Nov 03 23:42 |
| walterbyrd | MS sued over somebody using a term that almost sounded like "windows" | Nov 03 23:43 |
| schestowitz | and Mike Rowe | Nov 03 23:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Brazilian police car rams smuggler's airplane http://identi.ca/url/56377425 | Nov 03 23:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Mercedes hits 2 #Occupy Oakland protesters http://identi.ca/url/56372588 | Nov 03 23:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Apple's 1978 floor plan http://identi.ca/url/56377462 | Nov 03 23:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Knowing how oppression begins, and because I care about the future, I push back so as not to leave the world in worse shape than I found it. | Nov 03 23:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] We are close in our assessment. | Nov 03 23:57 | |
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