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FaithergnNov 09 00:02
Faitherdesperatly need to catch some sleep ^^Nov 09 00:03
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schestowitz"The US is lucky it's not some Arabian country, or else they would get airstriken into #freedom & democracy by..... the US. "Nov 09 00:08
schestowitzhttp://joindiaspora.com/posts/768095Nov 09 00:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @jonsson Hm, "hantera tvistemål utomrättsligt" låter skumt på något sätt http://ping.fm/QCJrxNov 09 00:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DRIVEN JURIST SÖKES! jobb i Göteborg 41251, Västra Götalands län Sverige .::. Size~: 26.14 KBNov 09 00:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Advogado de Vara: Mesmo que os factos sejam provados não são susceptível de crime- LEX - Jornal negócios #poucavergonha http://goo.gl/Wf1swNov 09 00:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Advogado de Vara: Mesmo que os factos sejam provados não são susceptível de crime- LEX - Jornal de negócios online .::. Size~: 71.78 KBNov 09 00:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Amazon.com: Next Medicine: The Science and Civics of Health (9780195369687): Walter Bortz MD: #Books #bigpharma http://ur1.ca/5p3ewNov 09 00:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Amazon.com: Next Medicine: The Science and Civics of Health (9780195369687): Walter Bortz  MD: Books .::. Size~: 398.45 KBNov 09 00:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Amazon.com: Confessions of a Medical Heretic (9780809241316): M.D. Robert S. Mendelsohn: #Books #bigpharma http://goo.gl/lfSF4Nov 09 00:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Amazon.com: Confessions of a Medical Heretic (9780809241316): M.D. Robert S. Mendelsohn: Books .::. Size~: 409.71 KBNov 09 00:31
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/768792Nov 09 00:39
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schestowitzLOLNov 09 00:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Economic truths [IMG] http://ur1.ca/5p3psNov 09 00:39
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DaemonFCkitties!Nov 09 00:44
DaemonFCyay kitties!Nov 09 00:44
DaemonFChttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TribbleNov 09 00:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tribble - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 43.7 KBNov 09 00:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] World Of Technology: #CIA is watching tweets, Facebook - #usa #policestate #surveillance http://goo.gl/GTxBjNov 09 00:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Supreme Court invokes '1984' fears with GPS car tracking | InSecurity Complex - CNET News #usa #policestate vi@jmce http://goo.gl/Sdq1BNov 09 00:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: World Of Technology: CIA is watching tweets, Facebook .::. Size~: 58.97 KBNov 09 00:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Supreme Court invokes '1984' fears with GPS car tracking | InSecurity Complex - CNET News .::. Size~: 71.08 KBNov 09 00:47
schestowitzDaemonFC: heheNov 09 00:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Credit Union Revolution 101 - Protester's Guide to Credit Unions - Forbes - #ows #bankingsystem #collapse http://goo.gl/KLevPNov 09 00:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Credit Union Revolution 101 - Protester's Guide to Credit Unions - Forbes .::. Size~: 99.29 KBNov 09 00:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @jamesvasile Gov would shutter Facebook/Twitter to quell unrest. We're all going to need a !FreedomBox. http://ur1.ca/5ozdfNov 09 01:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Brits Back Twitter, Facebook Shutdown During Civil Unrest - Forbes .::. Size~: 103.93 KBNov 09 01:02
schestowitzhttp://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2011/11/google-plus-pages/Nov 09 01:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why Google Plus Pages (Will) Beat Facebook. And Twitter | Wired Enterprise | Wired.com .::. Size~: 48.07 KBNov 09 01:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Hooray for #LinuxMint 12 http://ur1.ca/5p4c7 #gnu #linuxNov 09 01:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Hooray for Linux Mint 12 | dwasifar's daily gripe .::. Size~: 50.11 KBNov 09 01:10
abushcrafterBrits Back Twitter, Facebook Shutdown During Civil Unrest: i am shocked! that shows how much brits are non-free (can't spell the p word) zombies and that these humans are stupid.Nov 09 01:13
abushcrafterthese = britsNov 09 01:13
schestowitzhmmm..Nov 09 01:14
schestowitzwell, he UK is behind in terms of FOSS adoptionNov 09 01:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] November 2011 Issue of The #PCLinuxOS Magazine http://is.gd/N4GS6o great OS, recommendedNov 09 01:14
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schestowitzI'll soon see one that does LinuxNov 09 01:14
schestowitzlocally, a mile from my houseNov 09 01:14
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/85034721Nov 09 01:14
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Nov-11 01:04:20 UTC - Identi.ca: Trinity Project keeping 3.5 alive http://ur1.ca/5p48l the Dot approves. #kdeNov 09 01:14
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Trinity Project keeping 3.5 alive | KDE.news .::. Size~: 15.88 KBNov 09 01:14
abushcrafterI mean there thinkingNov 09 01:17
abushcrafterthere mindsNov 09 01:17
abushcrafterand they are forgeting with black berry msger there is a back door for them to spy on you.Nov 09 01:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] In Five Days the World Could End (As You Know It) - Technorati Technology #cme #emp http://goo.gl/POEla http://goo.gl/bZewANov 09 01:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Like our recent website relaunch? Help us continue to spread the word about CC by donating today. http://creativecommons.org/donateNov 09 01:22
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 301 Moved PermanentlyNov 09 01:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Storm activity on sun heats up in area called ‘benevolent monster’ by scientists - The Washington Post .::. Size~: 110.05 KBNov 09 01:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Donate to Creative Commons | Creative Commons .::. Size~: 37.05 KBNov 09 01:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Firefox 8 Officially Released http://ur1.ca/5p4jk 3.x is ok, but thanks. #moz... http://b1t.it/RS4Nov 09 01:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Firefox 8 Officially Released .::. Size~: 23.76 KBNov 09 01:24
schestowitzhttp://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/11/07/1946205/google-opens-to-businesses-with-pagesNov 09 01:24
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google+ Opens To Businesses With 'Pages' - Slashdot .::. Size~: 135.54 KBNov 09 01:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Alert: Devastating #Megaquake May Destroy Midwest Soon | Before It's News #usa #newmadrid #preppers http://goo.gl/6eKKUNov 09 01:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New Investigative Report Highlights Koch Brothers' Reach in Influencing Democracy http://is.gd/2Lh48O #koch #astroturfNov 09 01:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Before It's News .::. Size~: 11.51 KBNov 09 01:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: New Investigative Report Highlights Koch Brothers' Reach in Influencing Democracy | Center for Media and Democracy .::. Size~: 50.44 KBNov 09 01:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Android 4 code out soon http://ur1.ca/5p4vt #linuxNov 09 01:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Motorola 'doesn't even have Ice Cream Sandwich source' - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 57.16 KBNov 09 01:35
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/769138Nov 09 01:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 12 Facts About Money And #Congress That Are So Outrageous That It Is Hard To Believe That They Are Actually True - #usa http://goo.gl/1jMp7Nov 09 01:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 12 Facts About Money And Congress That Are So Outrageous That It Is Hard To Believe That They Are Actually True .::. Size~: 157.85 KBNov 09 01:40
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XFaCEschestowitz: http://technorati.com/technology/article/in-five-days-the-world-could/#ixzz1d3uRoMJjNov 09 01:47
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 403 ForbiddenNov 09 01:47
XFaCEIn five days, disaster, except that article is dated Nov 3Nov 09 01:48
XFaCEhmmm.Nov 09 01:48
schestowitznot todayNov 09 01:48
schestowitzin 5 minutesNov 09 01:48
schestowitzworld endsNov 09 01:48
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schestowitzI teleport firstNov 09 01:48
schestowitzYou'll seeNov 09 01:48
schestowitzok, gotta runNov 09 01:48
schestowitzlatersNov 09 01:48
XFaCEBeam me up Roy!Nov 09 01:48
schestowitzno!Nov 09 01:48
schestowitzByeNov 09 01:48
XFaCENoooo!Nov 09 01:48
schestowitz:-)Nov 09 01:48
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XFaCESurpriseNov 09 01:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The quad-core #linux phones are coming http://ur1.ca/5p54yNov 09 01:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Htc leaks edge smartphone with quad-core chip- The Inquirer .::. Size~: 66.28 KBNov 09 01:50
schestowitzlast dentNov 09 01:51
schestowitzevaNov 09 01:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Deutsche Bank on Europe: 'We could be in full crisis mode by the end of this week' | COLLAPSENET #eu #collapse http://goo.gl/ivo5xNov 09 01:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Apple boots security guru who exposed iPhone exploit http://is.gd/2MIzhQ shooting the messenger, not fixing bugsNov 09 01:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple boots security guru who exposed iPhone exploit | Apple Talk - CNET News .::. Size~: 75.35 KBNov 09 01:55
DaemonFCFacebook seems to be garbled in the latest Opera 11.60 snapshotNov 09 01:57
DaemonFC:)Nov 09 01:57
XFaCEschestowitz: "Immediately, trolls scourge through historical articles and records to find a similar FLOSS situation, under the battle cry "Two wrongs make us right!"Nov 09 01:57
XFaCEDaemonFC: Have you ever used Inkscpae?Nov 09 01:58
XFaCE*Inkscape (obv.)Nov 09 01:58
DaemonFConce or twiceNov 09 01:58
DaemonFCthere seem to be some bugs in Fedora 16 KDE that slipped past themNov 09 01:59
DaemonFC:)Nov 09 01:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Yeah, that's true! Looks like Twitter was actually $1.16Bn http://identi.ca/url/350013Nov 09 01:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] But, OK, point taken in the spirit it was meant.Nov 09 01:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter | CrunchBase Profile .::. Size~: 73.95 KBNov 09 01:59
DaemonFCso far I've noticed....the pager widget doesn't work, just claims to be loaded and makes a blank spot on the panelNov 09 01:59
DaemonFCinstalling local RPMs has "Apper" claim it can't be loaded, after installing the packageNov 09 01:59
DaemonFC:)Nov 09 01:59
DaemonFC"Apper" fails to install GPG keys and hangs unless you've already imported the key with yumNov 09 02:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Users are furious over Iphone 4S static bug http://is.gd/kfw7Mn #hypePhone #4Ass #FailNov 09 02:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Users are furious over iphone 4s static bug- The Inquirer .::. Size~: 73.4 KBNov 09 02:04
XFaCEDaemonFC: XFCE spin still sucksNov 09 02:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Apple sues #android suppporters for stealing Apple's thunder, not Apple's 'ideas'Nov 09 02:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "The thing about Apple's strategy is, they've got no taste" ~Nobody specificNov 09 02:05
DaemonFCI found out the pager problem causeNov 09 02:07
DaemonFCFedora 16 KDE defaults to one desktopNov 09 02:07
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/85035982Nov 09 02:15
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Nov-11 01:51:10 UTC - Identi.ca: #Google will continue to offer #Android for free http://is.gd/ptbnjj it's in the licence.Nov 09 02:15
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Google will continue to offer android for free- The Inquirer .::. Size~: 63.8 KBNov 09 02:15
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/85036029Nov 09 02:15
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Nov-11 01:52:36 UTC - Identi.ca: the #hypePhone is perfect http://ur1.ca/5p574 #appleNov 09 02:15
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Apple fails to fix iphone daylight savings time bug- The Inquirer .::. Size~: 69.37 KBNov 09 02:15
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/uKzomegadot/statuses/134009845383839744Nov 09 02:18
TechrightsBot-tr@uKzomegadot: WD+#riaa = none of my dough http://t.co/WWU1napNNov 09 02:18
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DaemonFCschestowitz: Wherre in the BSD, MIT, or Apache licenses does it obligate Google to keep Android open source?Nov 09 02:30
DaemonFCthey make sure to limit the amount of code in Android that they are obligated to contribute their changes toNov 09 02:30
DaemonFCif they only lived up to that, then there would be no usable system that you could make from Android open source codeNov 09 02:31
DaemonFClarge companies like to steer clear of promising anything will remain openNov 09 02:43
DaemonFCat first, VP8 didn't even have a patent license from Google iircNov 09 02:43
DaemonFCthen when enough people complained, they added oneNov 09 02:43
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DaemonFChttp://techcrunch.com/2011/11/08/aol-yahoo-and-microsoft-band-together-to-fend-off-facebooks-ad-assault/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Techcrunch+%28TechCrunch%29Nov 09 04:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: AOL, Yahoo, And Microsoft Band Together To Fend Off Facebook’s Ad Assault | TechCrunch .::. Size~: 69.93 KBNov 09 04:16
DaemonFC" Yes, the three internet behemoths today"Nov 09 04:16
DaemonFCwith all three users between themNov 09 04:16
DaemonFC:)Nov 09 04:16
DaemonFCThey join together, not to become hugeNov 09 04:17
DaemonFCbut to become slightly less irrelevant Nov 09 04:17
DaemonFChttp://www.adflip.com/images/jpegs/10124.jpgNov 09 04:21
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting image/jpeg typeNov 09 04:21
DaemonFCYou'll have access to all the memory in your PCNov 09 04:21
DaemonFCso Windows can go OM NOM NOM NOM NOMNov 09 04:21
DaemonFCB-)Nov 09 04:21
DaemonFC*BUUUUUUUURP*Nov 09 04:21
DaemonFC"Hey buddy, go get another memory board, and don't cheap out on me with XMS"Nov 09 04:22
DaemonFC"Windows 3.0 which will make you look great"Nov 09 04:23
DaemonFCWith the simplistic stacking window manager that must have taken someone hours to writeNov 09 04:23
DaemonFC:)Nov 09 04:23
DaemonFCHow can they claim that Windows 3.0 made networking easy?Nov 09 04:25
DaemonFCit came with no support for any networking protocolsNov 09 04:25
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Nobody__Has any body seen this? http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-57320800-75/barnes-noble-wants-doj-probe-into-microsoft-patent-tactics/?tag=mncol;topStoriesNov 09 04:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Barnes & Noble wants DOJ probe into Microsoft patent tactics | Microsoft - CNET News .::. Size~: 79.42 KBNov 09 04:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Finding work is the hardest work there is. Its always easiest when you have a job, because you don't need a job, can relax & be yourselfNov 09 04:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: @flueke sure - check out hashtag #daelocal_DE http://p.ost.im/p/eksd6aNov 09 04:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @anked: #apps4de is proud to have #opendata gurus such as Tim Berners Lee, @DirDigEng, @NeelieKroesEU an http://p.ost.im/p/ekQ3F8Nov 09 04:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @alexhundert Young Occupants: Conversation with 2 of Occupy Nova Scotia's Youngest | The Media Co-op http://ur1.ca/5p8dx #occupyns #owsNov 09 04:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Young Occupants | The Media Co-op .::. Size~: 32.39 KBNov 09 04:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @Siri_Paulson #thingsthatyoushouldknow You deserve to be happy. Yes, you.Nov 09 04:47
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83U5Oupj1RI&feature=relatedNov 09 04:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: White Star Fleet vs. Advanced Destroyers       - YouTube .::. Size~: 121.76 KBNov 09 04:47
DaemonFC:)Nov 09 04:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @ericswett !NaNoWriMo Day 08: The days after the mine collapse were filled with investigations and inquiries, but... http://ur1.ca/5p8i0Nov 09 04:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lnxwalt280 If you want to stop this net censorship bill, you have to do at least one of two things: CALL your representative or VISI ...Nov 09 04:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: NaNoWriMo: Day 08 | My Writer's Cramp .::. Size~: 71.66 KBNov 09 04:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Tell Congress to support the Wall Street Tax! http://identi.ca/url/56518920Nov 09 05:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MoveOn.org Civic Action:  Support the Wall Street Tax .::. Size~: 18.46 KBNov 09 05:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Whats more interesting are 5 cores ones, where the 5th is 1/3rd speed, much less power usage, and runs when the other 4 are completely off.Nov 09 05:17
amarsh04public transport timetable data for Adelaide http://www.adelaidemetro.com.au/general/general-transit-feed-dataNov 09 05:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: General Transit Feed Data – Adelaide Metro .::. Size~: 32.73 KBNov 09 05:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] 3.x isn't okay. It has security flaws, it has broken HTML5, and the Javascript engine is slower and bloatier. !Linux upgrades seamlessly.Nov 09 05:22
DaemonFCHaiku is funnyNov 09 05:25
DaemonFCthey talk about Linux not being a modern system then recommend you compile Haiku software with GCC 2 so it will be compatible with BeOSNov 09 05:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] I think I just invented pipes that won't burst when the water freezes...Nov 09 05:39
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scientesschestowitz !!!!!!!!!!Nov 09 06:01
azalynDaemonFC: well, they have somewhat of a good point in some respects.Nov 09 06:05
azalyngnu/linux is excellent, but beos had some really interesting ideas that we should definitely be ripping off.. ;PNov 09 06:06
azalynand no one seems to be doing that.Nov 09 06:06
azalynlike their "multithreading everywhere" concept.Nov 09 06:06
azalynfrom my understanding, BeOS did not do multithreading in order to support multi-cpu (or multicore) systems..Nov 09 06:07
azalynthey did threading in order for applications to be more responsive. so that when the user hits a button, the user's actions are always preferred over *anything* else happening in the system.Nov 09 06:07
azalynso instead of improving performance on multicore systems, their idea was to improve responsiveness even on singlecore systems.Nov 09 06:08
azalynbecause the task switcher will switch between threads in the same way it switches between processes. so applications don't lag and slowdown.. like how firefox will slow to a crawl when it's loading tabs with lots of images.Nov 09 06:09
azalynand i *really* wish the linux userland was designed that way..Nov 09 06:09
azalyni really don't give a shit about multicore support. i just want threading for responsiveness.Nov 09 06:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] http://nd.gd/ URL shortener rolls over into 3 characters!Nov 09 06:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: nudged - for when you need that extra character! .::. Size~: 3.59 KBNov 09 06:10
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DaemonFChttp://news.slashdot.org/story/11/11/08/220244/technical-glitch-lets-reporters-eavesdrop-on-obama-sarkozyNov 09 06:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Technical Glitch Lets Reporters Eavesdrop On Obama, Sarkozy - Slashdot .::. Size~: 155.93 KBNov 09 06:13
DaemonFCLMAONov 09 06:13
DaemonFC 'I can't stand him any more,' said Mr. Sarkozy of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. 'He's a liar.' Mr. Obama replied: 'You're sick of him. I have to deal with him every day!' Nov 09 06:14
azalynalso haiku seems to let you build a gcc4 system. i just googled it.Nov 09 06:15
azalynyou can built gcc2 libraries for compatibility also.Nov 09 06:15
azalynbuild**Nov 09 06:15
azalynkind of like 32bit vs 64bit support..Nov 09 06:15
DaemonFCMr Sarkozy appears to have an opinion on all of them. Nov 09 06:17
DaemonFCOf German Chancellor Angela Merkel, "she says she's on a diet then she helps herself to a second helping of cheese," he said. Of Spanish Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero: "perhaps he's not very intelligent."Nov 09 06:17
DaemonFC:)Nov 09 06:17
azalyn"The reporters made 'a group decision... not to report the conversation as it was considered private and off-the-record,'"Nov 09 06:19
azalynwow...Nov 09 06:19
azalyntalk about journalistic integrity...Nov 09 06:20
DaemonFChttp://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/11/08/215243/banshee-mono-may-be-dropped-from-ubuntu-defaultNov 09 06:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Banshee, Mono May Be Dropped From Ubuntu Default - Slashdot .::. Size~: 140.41 KBNov 09 06:20
azalynwhat a bunch of jerk reporters.Nov 09 06:20
DaemonFCthey managed to take a few stabs at free software advocates about thisNov 09 06:20
azalynsince when are journalists supposed to shy away from publishing things ust because it's "private"Nov 09 06:20
azalynwhat happened to "the people have a right to know!"Nov 09 06:20
azalynjournalists are fucking shameful these days.Nov 09 06:20
DaemonFC"So I’m not cross that the stuff I work on has been removed from the default install. I intend to continue working on it as I have for the last 4 years, through my work in Debian. No, why I’m cross that I heard about it from fucking Boycott Novell."Nov 09 06:26
DaemonFChttp://apebox.org/wordpress/rants/398/Nov 09 06:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: APEBOX.ORG  » Archive   » Bansheegeddon .::. Size~: 125.36 KBNov 09 06:26
DaemonFCDavid Nielson accuses Banshee's terrible startup times on Ubuntu's music store extensionNov 09 06:28
DaemonFCFunny, since Ubuntu music store was upstreamed without them ever pointing this one outNov 09 06:29
DaemonFC;)Nov 09 06:29
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DaemonFCRyan Farmer Reply:Your comment is awaiting moderation.Nov 09 06:33
DaemonFCNovember 9th, 2011 at 7:32 amNov 09 06:33
DaemonFC@David Nielsen, Nov 09 06:33
DaemonFCIt’s funny how one of you claimed Ubuntu music store was upstreamed as part of rolling out the red carpet for Ubuntu, with no objections, and now that they’re dropping Banshee, you turn around and blame its abysmal startup time on the extension you upstreamed without saying “Hey this sucks, fix it”.Nov 09 06:33
DaemonFCIt seems to be a case of convenient timing.Nov 09 06:33
DaemonFCBanshee has never been real fast at starting up on any platform or distribution I’ve tried it on. That’s IF it started up at all or didn’t have some weird crash bug that should have never gone unnoticed before reaching a stable build. (Remember when it crashed just because you clicked on Now Playing?)Nov 09 06:33
DaemonFCBanshee is garbage.Nov 09 06:33
DaemonFCI wonder if he'll "approve" thatNov 09 06:34
DaemonFCRunning non-native code with JIT doubles the startup time.....so lets bitch about 0.2 seconds that a plug-in addsNov 09 06:35
DaemonFC:)Nov 09 06:35
DaemonFChttp://apebox.org/wordpress/rants/398/comment-page-1/#comment-12576Nov 09 06:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: APEBOX.ORG   » Page not found .::. Size~: 13.91 KBNov 09 06:41
DaemonFCinsulting and abusing JonoNov 09 06:42
DaemonFC:)Nov 09 06:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @mehdi: Thanks a bunch and Kudos !Fedora team for the release of #fedora 16 "Verne" http://ur1.ca/2710d #linuxNov 09 06:49
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scientesDaemonFC: schestowitz around much?Nov 09 06:54
azalyni don't know why everyone is making this story about banshee.Nov 09 06:54
azalynit's clear that this is all about removing monoNov 09 06:54
azalynbanshee just happens to be a casualty of that.Nov 09 06:54
azalynwhy is anyone even bothering to talk about specifics on why banshee was removed?Nov 09 06:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Use !XFCE instead. Lighter than Gnome2, and much more configurable.Nov 09 06:55
DaemonFChttp://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203716204577014262225551278.html#articleTabs=articleNov 09 06:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Scott Adams: What If Government Were More Like an iPod? - WSJ.com .::. Size~: 179.63 KBNov 09 06:58
DaemonFCI wonder what the Ubuntu people use for IRCNov 09 07:04
DaemonFCall the good ones are broken by UnityNov 09 07:04
DaemonFCand the only one that isn't, is broken all by itself Nov 09 07:04
schestowitzscientes: hey, man, welcome back!Nov 09 07:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @parlementum The Darknet Project: activists dream of global mesh network - P2P Foundation http://ur1.ca/5payd "resistant to censorship"Nov 09 07:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Darknet Project: netroots activists dream of global mesh network - P2P Foundation .::. Size~: 25.53 KBNov 09 07:15
schestowitz"Awww, diddums! Who's unhappy they're being whipped into submission by Google? :) "Nov 09 07:16
schestowitzhttp://joindiaspora.com/posts/769237Nov 09 07:16
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DaemonFC"Metro" applications for Windows 8 will only be available from the "Windows Store"Nov 09 07:16
DaemonFCdevelopers can't host them on their own siteNov 09 07:16
schestowitz"How dare s/he imply that Apple products are **not** perfect!!! OMG! " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/769204Nov 09 07:16
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/769233Nov 09 07:17
scienteshows it going out thereNov 09 07:17
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/85041746Nov 09 07:17
TechrightsBot-tr@Patrick McFarland (diablod3)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Nov-11 05:17:00 UTC - Identi.ca: Whats more interesting are 5 cores ones, where the 5th is 1/3rd speed, much less power usage, and runs when the other 4 are completely off.Nov 09 07:17
schestowitzscientes: very goodNov 09 07:18
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/85041762Nov 09 07:18
TechrightsBot-tr@Patrick McFarland (diablod3)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Nov-11 05:18:37 UTC - Identi.ca: 3.x isn't okay. It has security flaws, it has broken HTML5, and the Javascript engine is slower and bloatier. !Linux upgrades seamlessly.Nov 09 07:18
DaemonFCI suppose that means it won't be possible to license a Metro app under the GPLNov 09 07:18
scientesthe feature request I put in for python got done! http://bugs.python.org/issue10141Nov 09 07:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Issue 10141: SocketCan support - Python tracker .::. Size~: 51.35 KBNov 09 07:18
DaemonFCMicrosoft also gets 30% of whatever a Windows 8 application sells for nowNov 09 07:20
DaemonFCthat's another reason to enforce their "store"Nov 09 07:20
DaemonFCWindows Phone supports FLAC?Nov 09 07:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "This world needs more authentically powerful men and women. " ~ Wanderlust: Sexual targeting in the online world http://ur1.ca/5paz6Nov 09 07:24
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DaemonFChttp://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57321126/mississippis-personhood-amendment-fails-at-polls/Nov 09 07:25
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DaemonFCthere's a shockNov 09 07:25
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DaemonFCRight to lifeNov 09 07:29
DaemonFCbegins at fertilizationNov 09 07:29
DaemonFCends at birthNov 09 07:29
schestowitzSpern is not life?Nov 09 07:29
schestowitz*spermNov 09 07:29
DaemonFCI hope notNov 09 07:30
DaemonFCotherwise I'm a mass murdererNov 09 07:30
schestowitzyou areNov 09 07:30
schestowitzyou kill bacteria as we speakNov 09 07:30
schestowitzHeavy D deadNov 09 07:35
schestowitzage 44Nov 09 07:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Panasonic Makes #Linux Tablets http://ur1.ca/5pbdf #androidNov 09 07:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Rough and tough Honeycomb tablet offers extra security - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 55.83 KBNov 09 07:35
Brendan_Trights never beginNov 09 07:35
schestowitzright...Nov 09 07:38
DaemonFCMozilla seems to want to make sure you know your rightsNov 09 07:38
DaemonFCa police officer told me once that I had the right to remain silentNov 09 07:38
DaemonFC:)Nov 09 07:38
Brendan_Tthe law likes to make its self look like the decider of right and wrongNov 09 07:42
DaemonFChttp://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/09/health/policy/appeals-court-upholds-health-care-law.htmlNov 09 07:42
TechrightsBot-trMissing content type. Ignoring.Nov 09 07:42
DaemonFCthe supreme court has to take the caseNov 09 07:42
Brendan_T^ nice ignoring skills thereNov 09 07:43
DaemonFCyou can't have federal law being declared constitutional in some places and not in othersNov 09 07:43
DaemonFChttp://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/08/business/wal-mart-benefits-from-anger-over-banking-fees.html?_r=1Nov 09 07:44
TechrightsBot-trMissing content type. Ignoring.Nov 09 07:44
DaemonFCfed up with banks so they give their money to WalmartNov 09 07:45
DaemonFCthat does sound like AmericansNov 09 07:45
DaemonFC:)Nov 09 07:45
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DaemonFCpaying to have a checking account is what someone with REALLY bad credit has to doNov 09 07:47
DaemonFCI'm not there yetNov 09 07:47
DaemonFC:)Nov 09 07:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Interview With #Fedora Project Leader About New Release http://is.gd/xdpwnW #redhatNov 09 07:47
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Brendan_Tto an earlier comment of yours; its nice to see even microsoft slowly catching up with the package management of 30 years ago.Nov 09 07:49
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Diablo-D3but .msi files were in win2k ;)Nov 09 07:49
Brendan_Ti guess at 30 anywayNov 09 07:49
Brendan_Tbut were they indexing them and providing a means to retrieve and install?Nov 09 07:50
Brendan_Tother than whip up a search engine, find your program, download it and run the promptNov 09 07:51
Diablo-D3Brendan_T: wellNov 09 07:51
DaemonFCexcept ports trees don't typically have binary only softwareNov 09 07:51
Diablo-D3the problem there isnt that microsoft couldnt do itNov 09 07:51
DaemonFCand license restrictionsNov 09 07:51
DaemonFCand DRMNov 09 07:51
Diablo-D3its that it took apple to come up with an acceptable to consumers solutionNov 09 07:51
DaemonFCand someone taking 30% cutsNov 09 07:51
Diablo-D3an app store.Nov 09 07:51
DaemonFCMicrosoft solves malicious apps with malicious app storeNov 09 07:52
DaemonFChow cuteNov 09 07:52
Brendan_Twell im glad the proprietary methods they used hindered them as wellNov 09 07:53
Diablo-D3with an app store, everyone would use a universal install and upgrade methodNov 09 07:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] For me it's a good night... hard to stay awake to write when cats keep climbing in lap #soporific (word first learned from Beatrix Potter)Nov 09 08:07
DaemonFCthis is funnyNov 09 08:07
DaemonFC1,816 people showed up to voteNov 09 08:08
DaemonFCthe town's population is almost 18,000Nov 09 08:08
DaemonFCeven when you consider that some of them are minors, that's still only about a 15-20% turnout?Nov 09 08:08
DaemonFCThe local Democrats actually did surprisingly wellNov 09 08:09
DaemonFCschestowitz: Updike is goneNov 09 08:10
DaemonFChe'll have to pay for his own internet porn nowNov 09 08:10
DaemonFCthe Republicans held onto the Mayor's officeNov 09 08:11
DaemonFCbut the Democrats took most of the seats on the town councilNov 09 08:11
DaemonFC:)Nov 09 08:11
DaemonFCyay!Nov 09 08:11
DaemonFCthe mayor can't do much without them passing resolutionsNov 09 08:11
DaemonFCschestowitz: Looks like Gonad is in troubleNov 09 08:13
DaemonFChe still hasn't paid his property taxNov 09 08:13
DaemonFC:)Nov 09 08:13
schestowitz[08:08] <DaemonFC> the town's population is almost 18,000Nov 09 08:23
schestowitzSmart townNov 09 08:23
schestowitzonly 10% are stupid enough to think elections are not corrupt (adults at least)Nov 09 08:23
schestowitz[08:13] <DaemonFC> he still hasn't paid his property taxNov 09 08:24
schestowitzHe spent all his money fixing erectile dysfunction?Nov 09 08:24
DaemonFCwell, he did save some by never getting his hair cutNov 09 08:26
DaemonFC:)Nov 09 08:26
DaemonFCor using soapNov 09 08:26
schestowitzLOLNov 09 08:29
schestowitzI have too much soap in the houseNov 09 08:29
schestowitzlike 0 barsNov 09 08:29
schestowitz50Nov 09 08:29
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/769204 "How can ANYONE do that?"Nov 09 08:30
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scientesschestowitz: what brand of soap?Nov 09 08:31
iophkSlashdot has picked up the story about Ubuntu dropping Mono.  Unfortunately it quotes a Mono booster.  Nov 09 08:31
iophkhttp://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/11/08/215243/banshee-mono-may-be-dropped-from-ubuntu-defaultNov 09 08:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Banshee, Mono May Be Dropped From Ubuntu Default - Slashdot .::. Size~: 141.12 KBNov 09 08:31
iophkHas the decision been finalized or is he just full of it?Nov 09 08:31
DaemonFCthe decision has been madeNov 09 08:32
DaemonFCthe Mono people are whining and lashing out at the Ubuntu developers for itNov 09 08:32
iophkThat's the impression I got..  It would be good for more articles or statements to come from Ubuntu's official sources.  This is very good news for the distro that Mono is gone from the default.Nov 09 08:33
iophkNext step is to get rid of it from the repositoriesNov 09 08:33
DaemonFChaving it in the repository is alrightNov 09 08:34
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/85046051Nov 09 08:35
DaemonFChttp://www.ghacks.net/2011/11/08/operas-latest-11-60-builds-shows-mail-improvements/Nov 09 08:35
TechrightsBot-tr@faither's status on Wednesday, 09-Nov-11 07:50:46 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz They might think it does help security thorugh obscurity, on the surface at least.  Next employer will just leak it ^^Nov 09 08:35
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DaemonFCbeen playing around with their new mail client, it is niceNov 09 08:35
schestowitzDaemonFC: that's what Jeremy Allison suggestedNov 09 08:35
DaemonFChuh?Nov 09 08:36
DaemonFChaving Mono available for people who choose to install it is one thingNov 09 08:36
DaemonFCshoving it in the default system and risking the legality of the CD is anotherNov 09 08:37
iophkIt's not just legality, it is also reducing the performance and stability of the product as a whole.Nov 09 08:37
iophk"I once preached peaceful coexistence with Windows. You may laugh at my expense -- I deserve it."Nov 09 08:37
iophkhttp://www.birdhouse.org/beos/byte/30-bootloader/Nov 09 08:37
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iophkzero toleranceNov 09 08:37
DaemonFCthe startup delay is caused by JITterNov 09 08:38
DaemonFCif they used Ahead of Time compilation, it would improve a lotNov 09 08:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] US Department of Defence fuelled by Red Hat http://is.gd/3uILWF #redhat #usNov 09 08:42
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schestowitz'Never sure whether this kind of thing is good or bad - it reminds me of the official of a British arms company saying "it's better if people are killed with British weapons than foreign weapons" 'Nov 09 08:43
schestowitzhttp://joindiaspora.com/posts/770477Nov 09 08:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Why is the Defense Department spying on Mark Turner? http://identi.ca/url/56525177Nov 09 08:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When There’s a Choice to be Made, Choose a Winner http://ur1.ca/5pcva #linuxNov 09 08:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: When There’s a Choice to be Made, Choose a Winner at  Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 47.78 KBNov 09 08:55
schestowitzhttp://mrpogson.com/2011/11/07/m-tried-to-sabotage-debconf_11/Nov 09 08:58
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schestowitz"What is crazy is that people have dedicated years of their life to harassing Pogson. Day in and day out, they sit here and spew Microsoft talking points. I understand what Pogson writes. It’s well researched, insightful and often worth sharing. I can’t fathom what motivates the trolls, other than a paycheck."Nov 09 08:58
schestowitzThis is what ZD Is reduced to http://www.zdnet.com/blog/virtualization/i-hate-unity-i-hate-gnome-i-hate-windows-8-the-ultimate-desktop-search-continues/4089Nov 09 08:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: I hate Unity. I hate GNOME. I hate Windows 8. The ultimate desktop search continues. | ZDNet .::. Size~: 125.35 KBNov 09 08:59
schestowitzhate, hate, hateNov 09 08:59
schestowitz"COME AND LAVE ME COMMENTS!!" [not actual quote]Nov 09 09:00
DaemonFCBut I *do* hate them allNov 09 09:01
DaemonFCbecause they are diseasedNov 09 09:01
DaemonFC:)Nov 09 09:01
MinceRhow long does it take to find XFCE?Nov 09 09:02
schestowitzdepends on the package managerNov 09 09:02
schestowitz:-)Nov 09 09:02
MinceR:>Nov 09 09:03
DaemonFCKDE, XFCE, and LXDE are all fineNov 09 09:03
MinceRgeekingsNov 09 09:03
MinceRyes, KDE3 is fineNov 09 09:03
MinceR:>Nov 09 09:03
DaemonFCSysinfo for 'ryan-MS-7501': Linux 3.1.0-2-generic running KDE Development Platform 4.7.3 (4.7.3), CPU: AMDPhenomIIX4945 at 800 MHz (5986 bogomips), HD: 3/923GB, RAM: 2670/7987MB, 162 proc's, 5.17h upNov 09 09:03
MinceRi guess KDE4 is fine too if you're used to the "stability" of winblowsNov 09 09:03
DaemonFCKDE is stableNov 09 09:03
DaemonFC" I observed a nasty trend in 1996, when I first saw FVWM95. It was cute and clever and it was Linux with that same great Windows 95 theme going on."Nov 09 09:03
DaemonFCuhhhmNov 09 09:03
MinceRyes, except for plasma-desktop, kwin and krunner, which keep falling over all the timeNov 09 09:04
DaemonFCdid he really sit down and TRY to use that?Nov 09 09:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ArchBang Brings Arch Linux’s Greatest Features To Your PC Without The Stress http://is.gd/tRIBEi #linux #gnuNov 09 09:04
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MinceRoh, and plasma-desktop also forgets some of its settingsNov 09 09:05
DaemonFCno?Nov 09 09:05
DaemonFC:)Nov 09 09:05
DaemonFCLancelot should be the default menuNov 09 09:05
DaemonFCYakuake should be part of the default workspaceNov 09 09:06
DaemonFC:)Nov 09 09:06
MinceRi don't like lancelot, with its stupid no-click designNov 09 09:06
DaemonFCuhhhm, you can turn that offNov 09 09:06
DaemonFC:)Nov 09 09:06
MinceRso consistency is opt-in? :>Nov 09 09:06
DaemonFCit's easier to browse through than that kickoff or whatever they call itNov 09 09:06
DaemonFCMinceR: No-click doesn't work with certain plasma themesNov 09 09:07
DaemonFCincluding the one I useNov 09 09:07
DaemonFCso I never see it anywayNov 09 09:07
MinceRthe "classic" menu is even easier to browse through :>Nov 09 09:08
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DaemonFCok, you use thatNov 09 09:10
DaemonFC:)Nov 09 09:10
DaemonFCsee, easyNov 09 09:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] US IT sector gains jobs http://ur1.ca/5pdam if true, good news. What about the UK/EU?Nov 09 09:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Takeoff with the K Desktop Environment’s best menu style http://is.gd/Uhdx2n #kde #gnu #linuxNov 09 09:29
-NickServ-schestowitz!~schestowi@host109-145-81-88.range109-145.btcentralplus.com has just authenticated as you (schestowitz)Nov 09 09:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fedora 16 Screenshot Tour http://ur1.ca/5pdjq #fedora #redhatNov 09 09:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: @RudolfLegat for an official invitation at least an e-mail with details is needed http://p.ost.im/p/ek3SH5Nov 09 09:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: Ideally both? different aims MT @datenjournalist: Dtl. braucht keine Apps4-Wettbewerbe, sondern #OpenData I http://p.ost.im/p/eBdyeCNov 09 09:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Not being tied is to be loved in !floss. Cause and effect are not obvious especially while a situation is being played out.Nov 09 09:35
DaemonFCmy experience with KDE 4.7.3 has been basically bug-freeNov 09 09:38
DaemonFCeven akonadi is behavingNov 09 09:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] European Court Set To Rule On Crucial Internet Filtering Case - http://bit.ly/s88UVg important stuff #censorshipNov 09 09:39
schestowitzI never use itNov 09 09:39
schestowitzoh, ryah,..Nov 09 09:39
schestowitzquestionNov 09 09:40
schestowitzany simple way to filter view in a directoryNov 09 09:40
schestowitzlike if you want to search in a folder in dolphin..Nov 09 09:40
schestowitzI just don't find some rather basic search features in listsNov 09 09:40
DaemonFCyou mean, clicking on the find button  and selecting where to start searching from?Nov 09 09:41
schestowitzI don't get that farNov 09 09:41
schestowitzthe search bar has no optionNov 09 09:41
schestowitzand I don't let my HDD be indexed, too many files to be worth itNov 09 09:41
DaemonFCit should only be indexing your home folder by defaultNov 09 09:41
DaemonFCthis isn't Windows XP :)Nov 09 09:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] LG signs deal with #patent giant Intellectual Ventures - http://bbc.in/uv0Ve6 the supertroll sucks more blood from the systemNov 09 09:42
DaemonFCschestowitz: Bing got my attention, at least enough to game their rewards thingNov 09 09:44
DaemonFCgo there and mash the keyboard to generate random searchesNov 09 09:44
DaemonFCget bing points :PNov 09 09:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Identity theft marketplace sells mothers' maiden names, dates of birth, etc - http://bit.ly/sauu5g incredible, but I suppose to be expectedNov 09 09:45
schestowitzwhat are ping points?Nov 09 09:46
schestowitzLike black death?Nov 09 09:46
schestowitz"OMG! I got bing points all over ma skin !!"Nov 09 09:46
DaemonFCnah, I've been cashing them in to enter a target $1,000 gift card contestNov 09 09:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Updated European law will close Patriot Act data access loophole - http://zd.net/t6kY92 long overdue #privacyNov 09 09:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] M$ Tried to Sabotage DebConf 11 - http://bit.ly/tHDcf9 if it stoops to this, #Microsoft must really be running scared #Bosnia/HerzegovinaNov 09 09:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] CBO: Generics Bill Would Save US $4.8 Billion - http://bit.ly/vuZnxd but propping up #pharma #monopolies more importantNov 09 09:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] You raise a good point. Sorry for that.... :(Nov 09 09:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Two New Fed GPS Trackers Found on SUV http://identi.ca/url/56527566Nov 09 10:02
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/770617Nov 09 10:07
schestowitz"Nov 09 10:07
schestowitzwhat misses in linux - and is the reason why i have my desktop dualboot with win7 and ubunut - is the support for playing games naturally on linux.Nov 09 10:07
schestowitzgamers are in need to use windows right now as platform, as PlayOnLinux and wine are no easy-to-use solutions for the average gamer.Nov 09 10:07
schestowitz"Nov 09 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Rally for #Reason http://ur1.ca/5pe4x nice idea.Nov 09 10:07
DaemonFCplayonlinux is horribleNov 09 10:10
DaemonFC:)Nov 09 10:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] When we hang the capitalists we will have to barter for a rope. !capitalism #economics #misquoteNov 09 10:12
DaemonFCwe could shoot themNov 09 10:14
DaemonFCI'll donate some bulletsNov 09 10:14
DaemonFC:DNov 09 10:14
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schestowitzHehNov 09 10:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 9/11/2011: Fedora 16, Linux Mint Dethrones Ubuntu http://ur1.ca/5pee9 #techrightsNov 09 10:19
schestowitzHmm... identica has been reliable so far todayNov 09 10:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Antonín #Dvořák: Complete Chronological Catalogue - http://bit.ly/uLrgjL hugely underrated composer: strongly recommended #spotifyNov 09 10:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #identica has been reliable so far today. First time in a long time. @evan explained their problems yesterday, he's working on it.Nov 09 10:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Website blocking part 1: two-tier policy making - http://bit.ly/vILIDe shameful bias in #uk gov meetings: where's the public voice?Nov 09 10:27
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/84968714Nov 09 10:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Russian Internet Content Monitoring System To Go Live In December - http://bit.ly/vaCz0Z something very odd going on here #surveillanceNov 09 10:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Website blocking part 2: The #Newzbin2 injunction and the costs of due process - http://bit.ly/uBv8IB thoughts on evolving situation #ukNov 09 10:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Costs in discontinued proceedings: Earth Closet orders are flushed away - http://bit.ly/uhjtKR patent law slightly more rational (v @Ipkat)Nov 09 10:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Protest is democracy. Suppressing protests is tyranny. If protest becomes a crime, what can ever keep those who govern in check?Nov 09 11:07
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2011-11-06-001-41-OS-UB-0002 "The mono version supplied with Ubuntu is always out of date, and it can be a drama replacing it with a newer one. If they drop the official canonical support but make it universe, hopefully that would mean users could install a more recent mono. "Nov 09 11:08
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schestowitzhttp://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2011-11-06-001-41-OS-UB-0003 "Nov 09 11:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Today - Canonical/Ubuntu Considers Dumping Mono From Ubuntu LTS .::. Size~: 52.31 KBNov 09 11:08
schestowitzIt's about time they got rid of Mono as I have gotten tired from removing everything Mono and breaking my linux box because some things are tied to mono in the linux applications that is tied to ubuntu operating system.Nov 09 11:08
schestowitzI think it's time they did get rid of it forever, but leave it around for those that want to include it to their own system and not force everyone to have it on their Linux OS. Nov 09 11:09
schestowitz"Nov 09 11:09
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2011-11-06-001-41-OS-UB-0004Nov 09 11:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Today - Canonical/Ubuntu Considers Dumping Mono From Ubuntu LTS .::. Size~: 52.99 KBNov 09 11:09
schestowitz"Nov 09 11:09
schestowitzNow they just need to dump Unity.Nov 09 11:09
schestowitzSeriously, having mainstream apps dependent on Mono was utterly stupid. The picture in the article says it all: Mono is a patent trap. Luckily, Mono was never a very effective or brilliantly thought-out patent trap, but nevertheless it was a trap. Unlike exFAT, where MS managed to trap a lot of companies into paying their bogus patent fees because there's no other feasible way of having an SDHC card formatted so that it can be used on Nov 09 11:09
schestowitzan MS box since they don't support real filesystems and FAT32 has a 2GB limit, Mono isn't really needed by Linux distros. MS probably thought they were going to get Linux distros to build in Mono-based apps because of ease of development or whatever, and after these Mono apps were inextricably tied into too many mainstream Linux distros, then they'd come after them with patent lawsuits and kill Linux for once and for all, but it never Nov 09 11:09
schestowitzreally went much farther than some silly music-playing app and a few others which aren't really that hard to redo in other languages, eliminating the Mono dependency. Nov 09 11:09
schestowitz"Nov 09 11:09
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2011-11-06-001-41-OS-UB-0005Nov 09 11:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Today - Canonical/Ubuntu Considers Dumping Mono From Ubuntu LTS .::. Size~: 52.31 KBNov 09 11:09
schestowitz"Nov 09 11:09
schestowitzYeah, the weasel words in MSFT's "Open Specification Promise" were always disturbing.Nov 09 11:09
schestowitzhttps://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Mic rosoft_Community_PromiseNov 09 11:09
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schestowitzI also distrusted the fact that it was a "promise" rather than a simple license. How many promises has MSFT broken to their customers and OEMs over time? Thousands? Tens of thousands?Nov 09 11:09
schestowitz(*cough*Plays For Sure*cough*) Nov 09 11:09
schestowitz"Nov 09 11:09
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Brendan_T^ this stuff gives me too much anger ;/Nov 09 11:13
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2011-11-06-001-41-OS-UB-0006Nov 09 11:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Today - Canonical/Ubuntu Considers Dumping Mono From Ubuntu LTS .::. Size~: 52.7 KBNov 09 11:16
schestowitz"Nov 09 11:16
schestowitzMiguel (& Co.) "decamped" to set up Xamarin. I never liked what he was doing in Mono or Xamarin, although I do give credit to the dedication and persistence of the man. But with this slow but steady move, the "raison d'etre" for Xamarin is equally diminishing, unless I have all my facts wrong. F-spot and Banshee appear to be the two most widely spread applications that could be affected and there are replacements as I understand things.Nov 09 11:16
schestowitz In any case, I have never used either.Nov 09 11:16
schestowitzSUSE seems to be the last stronghold for Mono......but if no-one else is using the Mono-dependent code, my guess is that sooner or later SUSE will follow where Ubuntu has led, and Mono will succumb at last to Linux-Darwinian rules: the useful and used code survives, the rest is consigned to the trash can of history. Nov 09 11:16
schestowitz"Nov 09 11:16
schestowitzBrendan_T: the mono stuff?Nov 09 11:16
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2011-11-06-001-41-OS-UB-0007Nov 09 11:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Today - Canonical/Ubuntu Considers Dumping Mono From Ubuntu LTS .::. Size~: 52.33 KBNov 09 11:16
schestowitz"Nov 09 11:16
schestowitzThese guys are real quick to understand things!Nov 09 11:16
schestowitzI imagine by now even Miguel de Icaza may get a hint that few people like M$... and fewer like .NOT.Nov 09 11:16
schestowitzI thank Ubuntu for being useful in the past and for all adoption with non-tech folks; as things are today, neither Ubuntu nor SuSE are usable for me.Nov 09 11:16
schestowitzAnd frankly, I don't know if this can be changed (provided they need one more user, that is). Nov 09 11:17
schestowitz"Nov 09 11:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Dusty Springfield... what a wonderful voice. #musicNov 09 11:17
schestowitzand suddently the mono PR shows upNov 09 11:18
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2011-11-06-001-41-OS-UB-0008Nov 09 11:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Today - Canonical/Ubuntu Considers Dumping Mono From Ubuntu LTS .::. Size~: 52.98 KBNov 09 11:18
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2011-11-06-001-41-OS-UB-0009Nov 09 11:18
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schestowitzhttp://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2011-11-06-001-41-OS-UB-0010Nov 09 11:18
schestowitz"However although you imply the opposite, I can but wonder if sooner or later the "trojan horse of the cartoon" may equally apply to the Mono phone apps. ? Microsoft is desperate to break into the smart phone arena, but all my information suggests that Redmond is standing at the station and the train is already three stops down the line. My Australian contacts indicate that the last choice of the kids is a Windows based smartphone....Nov 09 11:18
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schestowitziOS and Android are the ones to have. So, if Redmond cannot get in easily by fair competition means, its only other option is to use patents. To me, a Microsoft promise has no legal binding and leaves Redmond free to light the patent fuse some time in the future when other options have failed. "Nov 09 11:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] About to boot into ArchBang.Nov 09 11:19
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schestowitzhttp://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2011-11-06-001-41-OS-UB-0011Nov 09 11:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Today - Canonical/Ubuntu Considers Dumping Mono From Ubuntu LTS .::. Size~: 53.13 KBNov 09 11:20
schestowitz"Nov 09 11:20
schestowitzThe 'independent business entity' SUSE chose toNov 09 11:20
schestowitzcontract de Icaza's company for 'supporting existingNov 09 11:20
schestowitzcustomers' despite the company who recreated theNov 09 11:20
schestowitz'independent business entity' SUSE had chosen to layNov 09 11:20
schestowitzoff the Novell Mono people on the grounds that puttingNov 09 11:20
schestowitzresources into that was not considered to be worth itNov 09 11:20
schestowitzalmost immediately before that. Shortly after thisNov 09 11:20
schestowitz'enterprise support contract', Microsoft announcedNov 09 11:20
schestowitzthat it would put another large amount of money intoNov 09 11:20
schestowitzSUSE. While nothing is known about the actualNov 09 11:20
schestowitznumbers, it is certain that Miguel & Co. continueNov 09 11:20
schestowitzto get money from Microsoft, like it used to beNov 09 11:20
schestowitzduring the past years, with just enough of a timeNov 09 11:20
schestowitzwindow in between to cause the sinking of Novell asNov 09 11:20
schestowitzindependent business entity.Nov 09 11:20
schestowitz.Nov 09 11:20
schestowitzThat's not quite 'no outside funding'. Nov 09 11:20
schestowitz"Nov 09 11:20
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2011-11-06-001-41-OS-UB-0012Nov 09 11:20
schestowitz"I'm not sure if you meant to type "2GB" or not. The actual limits for a FAT32 filesystem are a 2 Terabyte partition size and a 4 Gigabyte file size. In practical use to this point, the 4GB file size has been more of an impediment than the 2TB partition size. I have yet to see an exFAT formatted SDHC card. All the ones I've seen have been formatted as FAT32 unless I formatted them differently. There are some companies that have gotten Nov 09 11:20
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schestowitzrights to use exFAT so they could read and write to it (to future proof devices I would think), but I have yet to see it actually in use. "Nov 09 11:20
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/85052092Nov 09 11:22
TechrightsBot-tr@agentsmith's status on Wednesday, 09-Nov-11 11:16:49 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Oh, oh, does Panasonic pay the M$ troll Gutierrez ??? Huawei is being bullied by M$, but states will not pay M$.Nov 09 11:22
schestowitzDid it really state that?Nov 09 11:22
schestowitzI saw it was in discussionsNov 09 11:22
schestowitzGutierrez had complaitnds about his extortion racketNov 09 11:22
schestowitzb&nNov 09 11:22
schestowitzI plan to write about itNov 09 11:22
schestowitzBut lack the timeNov 09 11:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] N24 über #LibreOffice - gute Sache das! http://ur1.ca/5pflg via +Florian EffenbergerNov 09 11:25
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schestowitzhttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAxMjINov 09 11:32
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schestowitzhttp://www.datamation.com/open-source/does-desktop-linux-need-a-steve-jobs-1.htmlNov 09 11:33
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schestowitzLike Linux needs cancer...Nov 09 11:34
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iophk At least Barnes and Noble are fighting back a little:Nov 09 12:12
iophkhttp://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204554204577026481717261566.html?mod=googlenews_wsjNov 09 12:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: B&N Sought Microsoft Probe - WSJ.com .::. Size~: 139.6 KBNov 09 12:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Crunch time.Nov 09 12:14
iophkhttp://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-08/barnes-noble-urges-u-s-regulators-to-probe-microsoft-on-mobile-patents.htmlNov 09 12:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Barnes & Noble Urges U.S. to Probe Microsoft on Patents - Bloomberg .::. Size~: 123.99 KBNov 09 12:15
schestowitzYes, I got both links alreadyNov 09 12:16
schestowitzAnd I have draftsNov 09 12:16
schestowitzBut didn't find much time to write about it properly because:Nov 09 12:16
schestowitz1) I don't have much that;s unique to addNov 09 12:17
schestowitz(mainstream press already covers it, TR is not a me-too site)Nov 09 12:17
schestowitz2) been spending too much time with g/f..Nov 09 12:17
schestowitzandNov 09 12:17
schestowitz3) was in some class yesterday, so didn't have a change to sit down and type at health clubNov 09 12:17
schestowitzI had it all ready..Nov 09 12:18
schestowitzBut I keep adding refsNov 09 12:18
schestowitzso when it's done it'll be more comprehensiveNov 09 12:18
schestowitzI also have a post about Mono in Debian comingNov 09 12:18
schestowitzstill researching it, thoughNov 09 12:18
schestowitzif you find valuable links, paste them hereNov 09 12:18
schestowitzi add what shows up hereNov 09 12:18
iophkokNov 09 12:19
iophkThe BN link is useful in that M$ appears to be using patents to try to drive up the cost of Android and other technologies.  Nov 09 12:20
iophkIt is good to have one example where the intended victim is fighting back.Nov 09 12:21
schestowitzAnd *Still(*. nobody wants WP7Nov 09 12:21
schestowitzAmong manufacturersNov 09 12:21
iophkIf more pushed back, then M$ couldn't pull that crap.Nov 09 12:21
iophkNo one wants VistaPhone 7Nov 09 12:22
schestowitzyeahNov 09 12:22
schestowitzBut we need to see govt. actionNov 09 12:22
schestowitzObama-Biden love "IP"Nov 09 12:22
schestowitzAnd funded by the crooks who love patent extortionNov 09 12:22
iophkThe only way M$ will get it out will be to leverage patents or the desktop OEM monopoly.Nov 09 12:22
schestowitzB&N should approach the EUNov 09 12:22
schestowitzCommissionNov 09 12:22
schestowitzWhat's left of it anywayNov 09 12:22
schestowitzPearly Gates pushes strings for it tooNov 09 12:23
schestowitzI put that ij the draftNov 09 12:23
iophkBack to Mono, the FSF has been campaigning against Mono, at least not for developing new applications.  Where is there encouragement on the latest news from Ubuntu?Nov 09 12:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Why Bank Transfer Day actually helped banks | COLLAPSENET #MCR got a point... #fiatcurrency #frb http://goo.gl/WKYJPNov 09 12:25
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MinceRperhaps they have the same reservations as i doNov 09 12:27
MinceR(that they didn't get the main point and so this might well be temporary)Nov 09 12:27
MinceRdid they remove all mono (cr)apps and the mono runtime from the install media or just banshee?Nov 09 12:28
schestowitziophk: it might not be tactful for the FSF to do soNov 09 12:29
iophkokNov 09 12:29
schestowitzthe mono people are ferocious and rudeNov 09 12:29
iophknasty lot.Nov 09 12:29
Diablo-D3yeah, they once posted comments on my blogNov 09 12:29
Diablo-D3they didnt realize it was my blog, and now they are preserved for hilarity.Nov 09 12:30
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/85052996 http://identi.ca/notice/85052999Nov 09 12:30
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Nov-11 11:54:15 UTC - Identi.ca: #Linux 3.2 rc1 is out  http://ur1.ca/5pg15 #kernelNov 09 12:30
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TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Nov-11 11:54:16 UTC - Identi.ca: #ArchLinux , not just for the elite  http://ur1.ca/5nyz8 #gnu #linuxNov 09 12:30
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schestowitz!google simon phipps mono scientologyNov 09 12:31
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Simon Phipps: “Mentioning Mono in my article was an interesting ... | http://techrights.org/2011/02/19/attempts-to-hire-microsoft-critic/Nov 09 12:31
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Good Week for Techrights | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/05/04/mono-cult-silenced/Nov 09 12:31
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Microsoft Bans Mono | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/02/18/wp7-forbids-the-use-of-mono/Nov 09 12:31
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Mono's future in doubt? | ZDNet UK | http://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/jacks-blog-10017212/monos-future-in-doubt-10022357/Nov 09 12:31
schestowitzHeheNov 09 12:31
schestowitzWatch [4]Nov 09 12:31
schestowitzMS JackNov 09 12:31
schestowitzCursing mono oppositionNov 09 12:31
schestowitzI remember that... got me into an argument with the jack(ass)Nov 09 12:31
iophkYeah.  People like him like to ignore the decades long history of misdeeds from M$.Nov 09 12:32
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/770645 "I talked with some guys (and gals?) in the Arch channel on Freenode and a lot of them hated the idea because it makes Arch easy to install."Nov 09 12:32
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schestowitziophk: he's a Microsoft radicalNov 09 12:33
schestowitzWindows zealotNov 09 12:33
schestowitzAnd monopolists' extremist :-)Nov 09 12:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] CESG asserts security of open source software http://is.gd/Y2tmUR secrecy is not security, it's just secrecy.Nov 09 12:34
schestowitzAlso a hypocrite, for calling those who are not like him those words, just because he claims them to be "small"Nov 09 12:34
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schestowitziophk: I think we should popularise some termsNov 09 12:34
schestowitzLike Dawkins says "Faithheads"Nov 09 12:34
schestowitzWe should call MS boostersNov 09 12:34
schestowitz"Microsoft zealots"Nov 09 12:34
schestowitzTo basiclaly turn their own insults against themNov 09 12:34
iophkThey tend to be zealots.Nov 09 12:34
schestowitzOr "Windows communists"Nov 09 12:34
schestowitzI thought it would be an amusing exercise of projection for themNov 09 12:34
schestowitz".NET radicals"Nov 09 12:35
schestowitzBut...Nov 09 12:35
schestowitzIt sometimes backfires when you hit them with such wordsNov 09 12:35
schestowitzBecause then they get a taste of their own poison and claim to be "attacked"Nov 09 12:35
schestowitzSo I never went far with those label gamesNov 09 12:35
schestowitzI will come down to London Friday 2nd December 2011 or the day before.  I can maybe stay after Friday, too. Looking forward to seeing Tim, maybe record :-)Nov 09 12:40
schestowitz"Just got Arch Linux running on my computer within the last couple of days, and am definitely enjoying it so far " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/771387Nov 09 12:45
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iophk Not as many as there were Manchesters.Nov 09 12:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Running Iceweasel aurora via http://ur1.ca/2urbj very fast, all my addons working :) http://ur1.ca/5ph84Nov 09 12:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK backs bid to overturn ban on cluster bombs - http://ind.pn/tlZbBE this shame must not happen (v @nevali @DaveHughesRFPB @paul_clarke)Nov 09 12:55
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/770766 "Yeah @tanghus me too. I don't get it why anyon on a desktop should want a almost-fullscreen menu for starting apps. Wasn't that the big problem in adoption of Gnome3? It's ok for tablets with a touchscreen.. but not on a desktop. Seems to be an ugly bastard of both worlds :)"Nov 09 12:55
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schestowitziophk: how many? I know 3.Nov 09 12:55
schestowitz"That is quite descriptive ;-) "Nov 09 12:55
schestowitzKDE could gain a lotNov 09 12:55
iophk8Nov 09 12:55
schestowitzFrom Unity and GNOME 3 backlashNov 09 12:55
schestowitzI hope Linus will go back to it at some stageNov 09 12:56
iophkUnity seems awkward for development.  For example, alt-tab moves you through the applications instead of the windows.  That makes it impossible to group windows by project.Nov 09 12:57
Diablo-D3manNov 09 12:59
Diablo-D3why the fuck is identica so fail.Nov 09 12:59
schestowitzIt's in its natureNov 09 13:00
schestowitzOnly Evan runs itNov 09 13:00
schestowitzSee his latest blog postNov 09 13:00
schestowitzidentica used to be more reliable than twitterNov 09 13:00
schestowitzspam ruined its filtering system and now it has some performance bugsNov 09 13:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Proposed Copyright Bill Threatens Whistleblowing and Human Rights | ElectronicFrontierFoundation #EFF #usa #policestate http://goo.gl/AVLxiNov 09 13:01
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Diablo-D3well now I cant even fucking connect.Nov 09 13:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] RIAA admits they are insane http://identi.ca/url/56533502Nov 09 13:04
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Diablo-D3ooh its much fasterNov 09 13:05
Diablo-D3I wonder what changedNov 09 13:05
schestowitz"i have to appologize for my writing.... wasn't total awake in the morning :) " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/770617Nov 09 13:06
TechrightsBot-tr@: Nov 09 13:06
schestowitzhaving an "edit comment" option would be niceNov 09 13:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Experts in use of force shocked by video of Oakland police shooting photographer http://identi.ca/url/56533529Nov 09 13:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Thanks to you! ♻ @hesa: Reason #01 NOT to come to FSCONS: the organisers don’t nother about FSCONS 2011 anymore (http://ur1.ca/5pbx6)Nov 09 13:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Bedworth 'suicide pact' couple found lying side-by-side. http://ur1.ca/5php0 #health #benefits #poverty #weareallinittogether?Nov 09 13:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] British PM's latest Big Society blunder. http://ur1.ca/5phrnNov 09 13:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 24 hours, 24 offers, 24 #books! #bookdepository http://goo.gl/5GfBBNov 09 13:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] 172 of 646 staff working for House of Lords have lobbying links. http://ur1.ca/5phyx #lobbying #corruptionNov 09 13:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Jobs Was Right: Adobe Abandons Mobile #Flash Development, Report Says | Gadget Lab | Wired.com #killflash #html5 http://goo.gl/FflJ1Nov 09 13:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Very sad. Despite prisoners and benefit recipients suffering disproportionately from problems, many treat them as scum/spongers. #shameNov 09 13:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Partly the crisis. It is capitalist competition. World competition requires the pressure on would be and wage slaves to be ever increased.Nov 09 13:49
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/85056456Nov 09 13:50
TechrightsBot-tr@Jose R Rodriguez (metztli)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Nov-11 13:46:41 UTC - Identi.ca: Protestar es democracia. Reprimir las protestas es tiranía. Si se convierte el protestar en crimen, ¿Como se controlaría a los gobernantes?Nov 09 13:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Whoaah... !Identicurse is running fast todayNov 09 13:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] .. formatsNov 09 13:54
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schestowitzwb, stefanNov 09 14:02
Faitherthx roy ^^Nov 09 14:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] QR Markham's plagiarized spy thriller didn't stop being good when he was caught - http://bit.ly/rMpDoy the power of the remix #plagiarismNov 09 14:08
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schestowitzhttp://www.slashgear.com/why-im-excited-by-the-apple-google-rivalry-06193354/Nov 09 14:09
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schestowitzThe battleground for FOSS is changingNov 09 14:09
iophkHow so?Nov 09 14:09
schestowitzMore risksNov 09 14:09
schestowitzMore companiesNov 09 14:09
schestowitzMore tacticsNov 09 14:09
schestowitzPatent threat was negligent before Novel/MS dealNov 09 14:10
schestowitzNot that it could be ignored, but it was a card MS mentioned but never pulled out of the sleeveNov 09 14:10
schestowitzI read about it around 2005 when Ballmer said something to the effect that MS would use patents if needed for "shareholder interest" (IIRC)Nov 09 14:10
schestowitzI read that in LinuxDevices.com (ZIff)Nov 09 14:10
iophkI notice more use of boosters and infiltrators.Nov 09 14:11
schestowitzAnd it resonated with me under the Novell deal happenedNov 09 14:11
schestowitzIn the device space patents work deifferentlyNov 09 14:11
iophkPatents seem to have become the major card in trying to drive up the price of the competition.Nov 09 14:11
schestowitzIt's easier to tax things that get shippedNov 09 14:11
schestowitzTo tax OOo or Ubuntu is hardNov 09 14:11
schestowitzMicrosoft triedNov 09 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] grown ups can't be trusted to talk TO (mislead) each other, have to talk to "the speaker"; wonderful role models #politiciansNov 09 14:11
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zoobabpatents fits perfectly to the device thing, trying to tax per download is less easyNov 09 14:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Plasma Active One on the !N950 on !Mer core http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2011/11/more-plasma-workspaces-48-news.html /via @aseigoNov 09 14:15
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FaitherMS also came up with this awsome PR clip about OOo xDNov 09 14:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #grownups can't have a debate without pantomime heckling, nor see the world as it is without carefully choosing stats to support #rolemodelsNov 09 14:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] and they wonder why people are pissed off with the lot of them and resort to protestsNov 09 14:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] grown ups being told off like children for heckling is a regular occurrence, didn't they learn basic manors at nursery? seems notNov 09 14:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Like "Dead men don't Wear Plaid" without providing attribution. Been a long time, but now I wonder if the DMDWP clips authors were creditedNov 09 14:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Microsoft killed Silverlight http://identi.ca/url/56536007Nov 09 14:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Mozilla's Brendan Eich on the Birth of #Firefox - http://bit.ly/sSwCf8 the man who oversaw it all #browsersNov 09 14:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Remember when Jack Straw was home secretary? He knows what it is like to be under pressure there. When he moved to FO it was like a holidayNov 09 14:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: @flueke building an infrastructure (getting commitment, funding) in a vacuum difficult. Best havd Push & Pu http://p.ost.im/p/ekcTPNNov 09 14:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I assumed you were watching border security row in the commons.Nov 09 14:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] UBS: These Are The Countries With The Worst National Balance Sheets - #growth #debt #collapse - http://goo.gl/b9xwdNov 09 15:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #FEMA Taking Over the Nation's Airwaves Today for First National Test | The Vigilant Citizen #usa #policestate #xfiles http://goo.gl/sPqHeNov 09 15:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Rex84 #FEMA Camps | Continuity of Government - YouTube #cog #usa #policestate #gardenplot http://ur1.ca/5pjz8Nov 09 15:19
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schestowitz> Hi friend!Nov 09 15:32
schestowitz> Nov 09 15:32
schestowitz> I think this is beginning of the end of patent war.Nov 09 15:32
schestowitz> http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Android-device-maker-calls-on-US-DOJ-to-investigate-Microsoft-1375678.htmlNov 09 15:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Android device maker calls on US DOJ to investigate Microsoft - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.61 KBNov 09 15:32
schestowitzShould we over-emphasise this?Nov 09 15:32
schestowitzI will write about it soonNov 09 15:32
schestowitzBut we need an angle which adds something newNov 09 15:32
schestowitzTR is not a me-too siteNov 09 15:32
schestowitzWe need to provide antitrust context, I thinkNov 09 15:32
schestowitzAnd why B&N's plea should be upheld as very legitimate.Nov 09 15:33
Faitherheadline sounds promising ^^Nov 09 15:35
iophkhttp://worrydream.com/ABriefRantOnTheFutureOfInteractionDesign/Nov 09 15:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A Brief Rant on the Future of Interaction Design .::. Size~: 15.29 KBNov 09 15:36
iophkThe apparent strength of M$ tactics are the non-disclosure of which patents are being bandied about. If B&N can get those public, then maybe that will open the door to others biting back.Nov 09 15:37
schestowitzThey have Nov 09 15:38
schestowitzTo an extentNov 09 15:38
schestowitzPJ reposted itNov 09 15:38
schestowitzNDA should not be considered so legalNov 09 15:39
schestowitzIt encouraged collusionNov 09 15:39
schestowitzIIRC the SEC can enforce unsealing thoseNov 09 15:39
schestowitzI think they have under some recent circumstancesNov 09 15:39
schestowitzAnd Microsoft had some NDA revoked and evidence brought to court regarding OEMsNov 09 15:39
schestowitzWe have that evidence filed under the Techrights wiki (*under OEM/hardware)Nov 09 15:40
FaitherI wouldn't go so far as calling it the end of patents Nov 09 15:40
schestowitz"Arch is very nice and I like it but I must admit that sometimes I have problem with some updates and sometimes was hard to downgrade when I clear my cache :) and now I'm pending between Arch and Gentoo.. " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/771387Nov 09 15:40
schestowitz^ FaitherNov 09 15:40
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schestowitzFaither: maybe the end of swpats extortion by monopolistsNov 09 15:41
FaitherOthers will have to get their act together and force M$ and their tactics in the openNov 09 15:41
schestowitz"#WTF pic of the month. Easily. " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/770815Nov 09 15:41
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schestowitz"Arch Linux is for anyone who's not afraid to learn something. That's the simplest way I can put it. "Nov 09 15:42
schestowitzThat's why MS needs FlorianNov 09 15:42
schestowitzTo lie and spinNov 09 15:42
schestowitzAnd portray Google as the villianNov 09 15:42
schestowitzMicrosoft is the one standing up for the law LOLNov 09 15:42
schestowitzBy 'protecting' so-called 'IP'Nov 09 15:42
schestowitzSays the MS-funded mobbyistNov 09 15:42
schestowitz"Big government"Nov 09 15:43
schestowitz"Big spendigns"Nov 09 15:43
FaitherM$ has a lot of backing in the govts Nov 09 15:43
schestowitz"The world is cooling"Nov 09 15:43
schestowitz"Abortion is murder"Nov 09 15:43
schestowitz"Gay people caused 9/11"Nov 09 15:43
schestowitzFaither: yeahNov 09 15:43
Faitherwhich might be a problem to persue them through the legal systemNov 09 15:43
Faitherthey aren't afraid to play dirtyNov 09 15:43
Faitherbecause they have very little to lose it seemsNov 09 15:44
Faitheror at least are pretty confident about itNov 09 15:44
schestowitzAbove the Law{soft}Nov 09 15:46
FaitherSo the real question is why can they act the way they doNov 09 15:47
schestowitzSame reasons GOP exists :-)Nov 09 15:47
FaitherIf you could reveal that and put a lawsuit on top to profe your point you might have a chanceNov 09 15:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Update of the schedule for !fellowship meeting because of social event http://ur1.ca/5keq3 !fs !gnuNov 09 15:48
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FaitherEven apple doesn't seem to care if they loseNov 09 15:48
FaitherSo why are they so confidentNov 09 15:48
schestowitzWhat's the worst things thta can happen?Nov 09 15:50
schestowitzBad PR?Nov 09 15:50
schestowitzThey already hired lobbyists to lieNov 09 15:50
schestowitzThey won't be penalised for extortionNov 09 15:50
schestowitzmaybe a gentle slap on thr wrist, at bes6tNov 09 15:50
Faitherkind ofNov 09 15:50
FaitherI mean Apple lost this case in germany where they were told they could no longer sell their productsNov 09 15:51
Faitherand said it was not a big deal? oONov 09 15:51
FaitherThe about not being abel to do anything about the abuse of the patent system was a low blowNov 09 15:54
Faither+petitionNov 09 15:55
Faithernvm i rephrase it ^^Nov 09 15:55
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FaitherThe government's answer about the petition against software patents was a low blow and speaks for itselfNov 09 15:57
Faitherdoes that make more sense xDNov 09 15:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] TDF announces new Membership Committee: http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/11/09/tdf-announces-its-new-membership-committee/ !libo !tdfNov 09 15:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Exclusive Documentary, Interview Of Linus Torvalds Released http://ur1.ca/5pkxi #torvalds #linuxNov 09 16:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] more #plasma workspaces 4.8 news http://ur1.ca/5pkxn #kdeNov 09 16:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Fedora 16 Pays Tribute To Dennis Ritchie http://ur1.ca/5pkxo #redhatNov 09 16:04
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schestowitzFaither: I reposted the Linux interviewNov 09 16:12
schestowitzHave a look, it's niceNov 09 16:13
schestowitzhwe talks about swpats tooNov 09 16:13
Faitherschestowitz: watching it nowNov 09 16:17
schestowitz:-)Nov 09 16:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ [via] If anyone can host an Ogg equivalent (YouTube only has a beta phase WebM option), please post the URL below.Nov 09 16:18
Faitherschestowitz: about the arch topic you posted earlier, when are you going to switch your desktop over to arch? xDNov 09 16:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] http://ur1.ca/5plb9 where CNN makes it sound like Löwenstrasse (Lions Street) means 'underground "through" station'Nov 09 16:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] wrote documentation on plasma packages on techbase, fixed a really bad bug in the system tray for 4.7.4 and 4.8.0, more tablet work.Nov 09 16:28
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schestowitzFaither: when I die and get reincarnatedNov 09 16:38
FaitherI'm going to get you hooked one day! Nov 09 16:40
FaitherxDNov 09 16:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Eee Pad Transformer Runs #Linux http://ur1.ca/5ploxNov 09 16:41
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abushcraftereee transformer is based of the touch book https://www.alwaysinnovating.com/Nov 09 16:48
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schestowitzFaither: I was gonna install it in 2009Nov 09 16:48
schestowitzTony Manco suggested itNov 09 16:48
schestowitzBut I did some rethinkingNov 09 16:48
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/134306272286744576?iid=am-212786989413208560861515500&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Nov 09 16:49
TechrightsBot-tr@Metztli_IT: ♺ @Schestowitz Exclusive…, Interview Of Linus #Torvalds http://t.co/zkcVZKeU covered…topics including his stand on Secure Boot. #UEFI #LinuxNov 09 16:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Music, movie industries giving to Rep. pushing for copyright enforcement - http://bit.ly/vbydoo gosh, no... (v @copyrightgirl @OpenCongress)Nov 09 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Kernel Log: #Linux 3.2 main development phase complete http://is.gd/9H8AZmNov 09 16:49
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/134307609950945280?iid=am-37902443013208564043855913&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Nov 09 16:49
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kernel Log: Linux 3.2 main development phase complete - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 42 KBNov 09 16:50
TechrightsBot-tr@Metztli_IT: ♺ @Schestowitz #Fedora 16 Pays Tribute To Dennis #Ritchie [the co-inventor of #Unix and the C language] http://t.co/XPaBSB4b #redhat #LinuxNov 09 16:50
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schestowitzhttp://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog/2011/supporter-meet-up:-censorshipNov 09 16:51
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schestowitz"I am wondering how locked down is this device and the previous EEE pad Transformer? Can I install whatever OS that supports the platform like their netbooks? I would rather try to get #Mer #linux on it with #plasma #active, and run #AlienDalvik to run android apps. "Nov 09 16:58
schestowitzhttp://joindiaspora.com/posts/773332Nov 09 16:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[alexanderstross/@alexanderstross] @boycottnovell Tribler 100% decentralized bittorrent which has *a* aim of audio & video http://www.tribler.org/ http://5z8.info/nazi_tuvvNov 09 17:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Top 10 Best #CheatSheets and Tutorials for Linux / UNIX Commands #floss #tips http://goo.gl/FgdnNov 09 17:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Libre Office 3.4.4 released Libre Office 3.4.4 lançado http://ur1.ca/4gguzNov 09 17:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Linux Shell #Scripting Tutorial - A Beginner's handbook #floss #gnulinux #tips http://ur1.ca/3rmm5Nov 09 17:08
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*schestowitz wakes up from napNov 09 17:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Wait, where's my surprised face again? Ah, there it is. http://ur1.ca/5pmgkNov 09 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] RT @docufoundation TDF announces new Membership Committee: http://ur1.ca/5pmh1 ...Nov 09 17:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan-Piet Mens - Google+ - Nothing new; carry on. .::. Size~: 43 KBNov 09 17:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New #Linux Tablet Costs $149 http://ur1.ca/5pmk7 #androidNov 09 17:18
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schestowitz"According to Unrevoked, the EEE Pad Transformer is rootable. http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/root_friendly" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/773332Nov 09 17:22
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schestowitzOh, I think I know what this ban was nowNov 09 17:23
schestowitzToronto areaNov 09 17:23
schestowitzso enderNov 09 17:23
schestowitzHe got his entire ISP bannedNov 09 17:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Conan O'Brian - Proof That #Media is Controlled by Outside Sources (video) | The Vigilant Citizen - #xfiles http://goo.gl/PGMRHNov 09 17:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] Hacking !heybuddy and sipping coffeeNov 09 17:28
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schestowitzhttp://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Linux-Mint-12-gets-GNOME-3-with-training-wheels-1374235.htmlNov 09 17:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Mint 12 gets GNOME 3 with training wheels - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 41.71 KBNov 09 17:30
schestowitzarch on rails :-)Nov 09 17:30
schestowitzFaither: trmanco is the one I mentioned earlierNov 09 17:31
schestowitzHe too uses arch IIRCNov 09 17:31
schestowitzArch Linux: Linux Mint for Newbies :-)Nov 09 17:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Adobe euthanises Adobe Trash for mobile devices. Good step. Good riddance to bed rubbish on the Web.Nov 09 17:34
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schestowitzhttp://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20111108006432/en/Scalable-Software-Acquires-Intellectual-Property-Assets-MoveOpNov 09 17:45
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schestowitzIOW, it bought nothingNov 09 17:45
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schestowitzhttp://www.bizjournals.com/austin/blog/abje_news/2011/11/scalable-software-secures-moveop.htmlNov 09 17:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Scalable Software secures MoveOp portfolio - Austin Business Journal .::. Size~: 78.6 KBNov 09 17:49
schestowitzthis is the one that sued IBMNov 09 17:49
schestowitzNEONNov 09 17:49
schestowitz!google techrights neonNov 09 17:49
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TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Microsoft Has Internal Problems as Developers and ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/06/07/msft-executives-headed-for-the-door/Nov 09 17:49
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - TurboHercules vs IBM - Techrights | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/TurboHercules_vs_IBMNov 09 17:49
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - 2011 June 07 | Techrights - Part 2 | http://techrights.org/2011/06/07/page/2/Nov 09 17:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 50 Productive Things To Do to Organize Your Life - #gtd #tips http://goo.gl/SoGhxNov 09 17:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Occupy Atlanta encamps on lawn of house under foreclosure threat http://identi.ca/url/56543839Nov 09 17:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Policy-by-nudging unsupported by evidence, and undemocratic http://identi.ca/url/56543853Nov 09 17:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fedora/@fedora] See the @networkworld coverage of the F16 release: http://2tu.us/3lh8Nov 09 17:51
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Policy-by-nudging unsupported by evidence, and undemocratic - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 28.68 KBNov 09 17:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Source Matters: Verne Unveiled: Fedora 16 Released .::. Size~: 76.23 KBNov 09 17:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Occupation in October: beautiful, long-form OWS radio documentary by Alex Chadwick http://identi.ca/url/56543976Nov 09 17:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Russian Internet Content Monitoring System To Go Live In December | Techdirt #russia #surveillance #policestate http://goo.gl/GhvnSNov 09 17:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] This is fun! http://ur1.ca/2mzq1Nov 09 17:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Occupation in October: beautiful, long-form OWS radio documentary by Alex Chadwick  - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 17.38 KBNov 09 17:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Now with GNOME 3, Linux Mint 12 Will Meet Users Halfway http://is.gd/jP4BVE #gnu #linuxNov 09 17:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] !heybuddy trunk now has the option to not require HTTPSNov 09 18:01
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/symeonb/statuses/134270795332583424Nov 09 18:08
TechrightsBot-tr@symeonb: #canonical #ubuntu dropping #mono http://t.co/PmAIjutA perhaps. shock horror?Nov 09 18:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Linux Trivia, anyone? Last chance to secure your #linux20th memento: http://bit.ly/uUzkoANov 09 18:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @faconti #AI5digital retirado de pauta por requerimento da @deputadaluciana Os brasileiros agradecem :) E vamos ao #marcocivil Via @ ...Nov 09 18:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Many Web developers (not pseud-evelopers) will sigh in relief today http://is.gd/aK31E4 #SilverLie is also deadNov 09 18:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] http://ur1.ca/5pnqh yea, I drink coffee from a scotch glassNov 09 18:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Thunderbird 8 released (H): http://bit.ly/tNSx8XNov 09 18:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @docufoundation TDF announces new Membership Committee: http://ur1.ca/5pmh1 ...Nov 09 18:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz Eee Pad Transformer Runs #Linux http://ur1.ca/5ploxNov 09 18:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Congrats to the Singapore Computer Society on the launch of the Professional Register - http://ur1.ca/5po6pNov 09 18:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 9/11/2011: Firefox 8 Launches, Linux 3.2 RC 1 http://ur1.ca/5po9m #techrightsNov 09 18:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Kshitij Sobti: Linux !Mint 12 to feature extended version of !Gnome 3 http://goo.gl/Gs2wvNov 09 18:48
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/ml2mst/status/134337414180257794?iid=am-167106996113208635102577705&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Nov 09 18:49
TechrightsBot-tr@ml2mst: @schestowitz Wasn't #Silverlie born dead then? just like #MonoNov 09 18:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Lost Civilization Discovered in Sahara Desert, page 1 - #xfileshttp://goo.gl/kCKJONov 09 18:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A History Of Hyperbolic Overreaction To #Copyright Issues: The Entertainment Industry And Technology - http://bit.ly/vC7Xz9 nicely doneNov 09 19:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] According to our "Value of Linux" report, what was the Linux kernel valued at in 2008? #linuxtriviaNov 09 19:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] A History Of Hyperbolic Overreaction To !Copyright Issues http://ur1.ca/5polc < applies equally to !C11 digital locks /v @glynmoody !CDNpoliNov 09 19:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rain ... rain ... go away ... i miss being able to turn off lights at noon !amwriting !NaNoWriMoNov 09 19:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Archaeology Magazine - Hoaxes, Fakes, and Strange Sites - #xfiles http://ur1.ca/5poqrNov 09 19:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Why !GNOME refugees love !Xfce • The Register http://goo.gl/HFSVNNov 09 19:12
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schestowitzo haiNov 09 19:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why GNOME refugees love Xfce • The Register .::. Size~: 26.5 KBNov 09 19:12
sebsebsebYeah the Gnome 3/Unity whiners  can use XFCE:  http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/09/xcfe_for_gnome_refugees/Nov 09 19:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why GNOME refugees love Xfce • The Register .::. Size~: 26.5 KBNov 09 19:18
MinceRand those who call them "whiners" can just go use macos :>Nov 09 19:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Looking forward to perhaps buying this Dell Duo and running Fedora 16 on it - http://ur1.ca/5pozbNov 09 19:24
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sebsebsebNext Wednesday :DNov 09 19:27
schestowitzbetter to be a whiner than a winerNov 09 19:27
sebsebsebMageia 2 alpha 1 next Wednesday :DNov 09 19:28
schestowitzWhy, of course!Nov 09 19:29
schestowitzI should have just guessed that.Nov 09 19:29
sebsebseband hopefuly I can run Gnome 3 ok in it :)Nov 09 19:29
schestowitzopensuse is coming out againNov 09 19:29
sebsebseboh?Nov 09 19:29
sebsebsebsomeone was talking about OpenSuse with someone yesterday evening actsaulelyNov 09 19:30
sebsebseband I was thinking like, OpenSuse is a bit pointless to go for now isn't it?Nov 09 19:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Steven Sande: Judge tells Apple to reveal Australian contracts to Samsung http://goo.gl/dwVdlNov 09 19:30
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schestowitzyeahNov 09 19:31
schestowitzunless you feel compelled to pay MS (SAP, Walmart) or if you think SUSE somehow helps Germany (VMW)Nov 09 19:32
schestowitz*BMWNov 09 19:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @faconti: AI5digital retirado de pauta por requerimento da @deputadaluciana Os brasileiros agradecem :) E vamos ao marcocivil via @caribeNov 09 19:34
Faithercups sucks -.-Nov 09 19:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Which Causes More Harm: #Copyright Or #Patents? - http://bit.ly/vPeL3g just askin'... #intellectualmonopoliesNov 09 19:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Which Causes More Harm: Copyright Or Patents? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 65.51 KBNov 09 19:41
Faitherschestowitz: and how exactly do you pay MS if you use openSUSE? SUSE is another thing but the community edition?Nov 09 19:42
schestowitzit aids SLE*Nov 09 19:45
Faithergood point ^^Nov 09 19:45
schestowitz"community"=Novell staffNov 09 19:46
schestowitzWags from MSFTNov 09 19:46
schestowitzwagesNov 09 19:46
schestowitz!google suse microsoft deal july 2011Nov 09 19:47
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Microsoft renews $100m Linux deal with Suse | Intellectual Property ... | http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/intellectual-property/2011/07/26/microsoft-renews-100m-linux-deal-with-suse-40093520/Nov 09 19:47
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Microsoft Extends Linux Patent Deal to SUSE - InternetNews. | http://www.internetnews.com/blog/skerner/microsoft-extends-patent-deal.htmlNov 09 19:47
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Microsoft and SUSE Renew Successful Interoperability Agreement ... | http://www.suse.com/company/press/2011/7/microsoft-and-suse-renew-successful-interoperability-agreement.htmlNov 09 19:47
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Microsoft kicks SUSE another $100m • The Register | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/07/25/microsoft_suse_deal_renewed/Nov 09 19:47
schestowitz"jajaja por eso la cantaba "the police"" http://joindiaspora.com/posts/773903Nov 09 19:47
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schestowitzhttp://mrpogson.com/2011/11/09/banks-cut-it-spending-but-keep-m/Nov 09 19:48
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schestowitzhttp://www.channelregister.co.uk/2011/11/09/dell_drives/Nov 09 19:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Deadly drive drought derails Dell's PC biz • Channel Register .::. Size~: 22.69 KBNov 09 19:49
schestowitzthe West cares about hailand...Nov 09 19:49
schestowitz"We need MOAR production..."Nov 09 19:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] #©r&P ♻ @glynmoody: Which Causes More Harm: #Copyright Or #Patents? - http://bit.ly/vPeL3g just askin'... #intellectualmonopoliesNov 09 19:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Which Causes More Harm: Copyright Or Patents? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 69.7 KBNov 09 19:54
MinceRthat's easy: patentsNov 09 19:56
schestowitzFinancial damage from copyright extremism might be greaterNov 09 19:59
schestowitzAlthough patents make everything we buy more expensive (hidden fee)Nov 09 19:59
MinceRyou can get around copyright by creating original worksNov 09 20:00
MinceRyou can't get around patents that wayNov 09 20:00
MinceR(at least software and business method patents)Nov 09 20:00
Faithereverything is a remix!Nov 09 20:01
schestowitzGood , but then it depends how you measure "harm"Nov 09 20:01
schestowitzIt's mostly a problem to developersNov 09 20:01
schestowitzCost can b a problem to buyersNov 09 20:01
MinceRand for those who produce content that could be consumed with softwareNov 09 20:01
MinceRand for usersNov 09 20:02
schestowitzFaither: yes, everything is a mix of faith and er....Nov 09 20:02
MinceRi don't even know 'erNov 09 20:02
schestowitzerr...Nov 09 20:02
MinceRto err is human. to moo, bovine.Nov 09 20:02
schestowitzthat's what she saidNov 09 20:02
MinceRno youNov 09 20:03
schestowitz"Hey you!" [--man who egged Ballmer]Nov 09 20:03
schestowitz!google egged Ballmer youtubeNov 09 20:04
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Steve Ballmer Gets the Egg-Treatment in Budapest - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DmtBQ4UCXQeoNov 09 20:04
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Ballmer egg attack! (Hungarian TV2) - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DS30WdoEHCH4Nov 09 20:04
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Steve Ballmer egged in Hungary - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DXXtdOsLVfu4Nov 09 20:04
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Steve Ballmer egged at Hungarian University (with video ... | http://macdailynews.com/2008/05/19/steve_ballmer_egged_at_hungarian_university/Nov 09 20:04
schestowitzI can imagine his CV nowNov 09 20:04
schestowitzAchievements:Nov 09 20:04
schestowitzEgged a bastardNov 09 20:04
Faither^^Nov 09 20:05
schestowitzRan a site with ApacheNov 09 20:05
schestowitzMinceR showed me his yellow siteNov 09 20:05
schestowitzHe probably votes JobbikNov 09 20:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Why GNOME refugees love Xfce (Register) http://ur1.ca/5ppm9Nov 09 20:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why GNOME refugees love Xfce (Register) [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 7.85 KBNov 09 20:05
schestowitzSilvio Obrandamus controls the press in .huNov 09 20:06
schestowitzThe Jobbik Lite partyNov 09 20:06
cubezzzwhen Ballmer goes to Hungary he knows he's going to get eggedNov 09 20:09
FaitherI'm gonna put some eggs and fry them now - hungry tooNov 09 20:09
FaitherbrbNov 09 20:09
schestowitzcubezzz: you know what they say in Hungary...:Nov 09 20:11
schestowitzbetter egged than goulashedNov 09 20:11
cubezzzlolNov 09 20:11
MinceRthey actually don't say thatNov 09 20:12
schestowitzReally?Nov 09 20:12
MinceRya rlyNov 09 20:12
schestowitzI thought I was making a joke :-)Nov 09 20:12
schestowitzif it was goulash, Ballmer would have screamed like he did when WIndows came out ::-)Nov 09 20:12
schestowitzExcept the "come on!!1"Nov 09 20:12
MinceRoh, that was a joke? :>Nov 09 20:13
schestowitzYou spoilt itNov 09 20:13
MinceR^_^Nov 09 20:13
schestowitzLike a Ballmer oinkster in a beefy soupNov 09 20:13
schestowitzRupert Murdoch got some shsaving form recentlyNov 09 20:14
MinceRmiracle soup?Nov 09 20:14
schestowitzthe guy put the cream in a bag and served it on a plate in the bathroom, then put in the backpackNov 09 20:14
schestowitzJust to make a statement, like with GatesNov 09 20:14
schestowitzAlthough those things tend to evoke sympathy for the crooksNov 09 20:14
schestowitzFernandi Cassia said the only time he ever watched Gates and smiled was when he got piedNov 09 20:15
MinceR:>Nov 09 20:15
schestowitzMinceR: beefy miraclesNov 09 20:15
schestowitzslogan for pfizerNov 09 20:16
schestowitzNow UPloadingNov 09 20:16
schestowitzmounting the server and fcking the mirrorsNov 09 20:16
MinceRkinkyNov 09 20:17
schestowitzoopsNov 09 20:17
schestowitz*fsck'infNov 09 20:17
schestowitz*gNov 09 20:17
schestowitzFedora used a funny codename\Nov 09 20:18
schestowitzand the logo/mascot doesn't helpNov 09 20:18
Faitheritadakimasu!Nov 09 20:18
MinceRbon appetitNov 09 20:18
Faithermerci Nov 09 20:19
schestowitzBon Aparte  Nov 09 20:19
schestowitzBon G[oogle]Nov 09 20:19
MinceRBon EchoNov 09 20:20
schestowitzBonyearNov 09 20:20
Faitherwasn't that goodyearNov 09 20:20
schestowitzyeahNov 09 20:20
MinceRBonsaiNov 09 20:20
schestowitzMichelinNov 09 20:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] “Consumers of Creative Commons licenses do not understand them”: A little more context to Wired’s use of !CC http://goo.gl/xIoKWNov 09 20:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: “Consumers of Creative Commons licenses do not understand them”: A little more context to Wired’s use of CC » Nieman Journalism Lab .::. Size~: 31.89 KBNov 09 20:20
schestowitzSkulls and BonNov 09 20:21
schestowitzHow zu u zay in French good doer?Nov 09 20:21
schestowitzBonerNov 09 20:21
Faitheractually my french isn't all that good xDNov 09 20:22
MinceR"You really are, how you say... 'armless."Nov 09 20:23
schestowitzx86Nov 09 20:25
FaitherlolNov 09 20:25
schestowitzhow you say lol?Nov 09 20:25
Faitherjust like thatNov 09 20:26
schestowitzany news today?Nov 09 20:27
schestowitzexcept the one shown here before?Nov 09 20:28
schestowitzit has gotten boring except androidNov 09 20:28
schestowitzi'm just in desktop 8 running some experiments nowNov 09 20:28
schestowitzAndroid is chugging alongNov 09 20:28
schestowitzLinus makes the kernel and calls arguments over DRM "religious"Nov 09 20:28
schestowitzI think identica is consistently not losing messages nowNov 09 20:29
Faitheri was just about to say the exact opposite xDNov 09 20:29
FaitherFurther info on identi.ca problems http://ur1.ca/5ozcmNov 09 20:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Further info on Identi.ca problems | StatusNet .::. Size~: 25.97 KBNov 09 20:30
cubezzzacer, toshiba, asus, samsung...Nov 09 20:30
cubezzzI see lots of android devicesNov 09 20:31
schestowitz"I see dead windows"Nov 09 20:31
schestowitzFaither: yes, I saw that yesterdayNov 09 20:32
schestowitzBut this morning I had like 0% loss rateNov 09 20:32
schestowitzused to be around 50% as of lateNov 09 20:32
Faitherit worked fine until about 3 hours agoNov 09 20:32
schestowitzbut I need to see if it's just like owing to small test sampleNov 09 20:32
schestowitzFaither: ok, what happened3 hours ago that you saw?Nov 09 20:32
Faitherno more updates xDNov 09 20:32
Faithermy timeline is stuck in choqokNov 09 20:33
Faitherbut my timeline on identi.ca/faither/all shows new onesNov 09 20:33
cubezzzHoneycomb's goodNov 09 20:34
cubezzz;-)Nov 09 20:34
Faithersticky hair for everyone!Nov 09 20:35
cubezzzI was thinking cereal-wiseNov 09 20:35
Faitherschestowitz: also my mom called if that is of interest in your investigation xDNov 09 20:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The boys club of tech investing barely more enlightened than the casting couches of Hollywood (Gawker): http://gaw.kr/s0wT3YNov 09 20:59
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MinceRgnNov 09 21:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] SEREBRO - Дыши http://ur1.ca/5pqld via @minitubeappNov 09 21:06
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FaithergnNov 09 21:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Wir sollten Peter Zwegat mal nach Griechenland und Italien schicken. Nützliches und Angenehmes und so.Nov 09 21:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] U.S. Dept. of Ed. Reaffirms OER Support, Highlights Competency-Based Assessment - http://goo.gl/7GUix ht @educauseNov 09 21:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: U.S. Dept. of Ed. Reaffirms OER Support, Highlights Competency-Based Assessment | EDUCAUSE .::. Size~: 25.36 KBNov 09 21:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] How To Be Productive and Get Things Done Using #GTD http://ur1.ca/5pr24Nov 09 21:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] U.S. Dept. of Ed. Reaffirms OER Support, Highlights Competency-Based Assessment - http://goo.gl/7GUix ht @educauseNov 09 21:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: U.S. Dept. of Ed. Reaffirms OER Support, Highlights Competency-Based Assessment | EDUCAUSE .::. Size~: 25.36 KBNov 09 21:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Report: Kansas detected Iodine-131 in grass at over 2,000 pCi/kg —'Attributed to #Fukushima'—|COLLAPSENET #nuclear #usa http://goo.gl/KUG1oNov 09 21:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] O mundo louco do crédito- Opinião - Jornal de negócios - #bankingsystem #pt - estimular a ignorância para melhor roubar http://goo.gl/T1nlINov 09 22:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] #Cacaolat is back, baby!! http://ur1.ca/5prhbNov 09 22:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Alliance formed for using Ethernet in vehicles (EE Times): http://bit.ly/s1b4vYNov 09 22:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] W3Conf Developer Conference Next Week; Live Video Stream Available http://ow.ly/1fzeBKNov 09 22:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] Only 250 short of 20,000 confirmed signatures! Sign now. Stand up for your freedom to install free software http://ur1.ca/5fq1q !fsfNov 09 22:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Wellcome Trust, Howard Hughes Med. Inst., Max Planck Society announce eLife, new CC BY licensed #OA journal - http://goo.gl/paUTC #berlin9Nov 09 22:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: RT @Thumbtackhead: Unlicensed Wireless vs. Licensed Spectrum: Evidence from Market Adoption http://t.co/ol9YBGz0Nov 09 22:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: Video of Why Copyright Reform Is Not the Cure for What Ails the Music Industry presentation at http://t.co/zK4qFwTlNov 09 22:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: CAMEO: "emphasis placed on TPMs in the legislation leaves the impression that..has been written..to conform to the US DMCA"Nov 09 22:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: RT @jdebeer: Reminder of privacy talk by @miltonmueller today. See you at 11h30 in FTX 351. http://t.co/2ZzhOZYKNov 09 22:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: Materials on music industry copyright talk include links to industry data, detailed info on C-11 issues http://t.co/MmYwfrG9Nov 09 22:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: Why Copyright Reform Is Not the Cure for What Ails the Music Industry: Sources & Background Materials http://t.co/MmYwfrG9Nov 09 22:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: The Daily Digital Lock Dissenter, Day 26: Canadian Association of Media Education Associations (CAMEO) http://t.co/8jQQ7SX9Nov 09 22:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Nice. Open sourced elearning content/tools for energy industry skills training - http://ur1.ca/5ps1w - done by US Dept of Energy.Nov 09 22:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @creativecommons Wellcome Trust, Howard Hughes Med. Inst., Max Planck Society announce eLife, new CC BY licensed #OA journal - http:/ ...Nov 09 22:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @fsf Only 250 short of 20,000 confirmed signatures! Sign now. Stand up for your freedom to install free software http://ur1.ca/5fq1q !fsfNov 09 22:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks imposters: Offical WikiLeaks email comes from http://t.co/sf5x6ACU, not wikileaks.de, etc. When in doubt http://t.co/yYRozT7ONov 09 22:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks imposters: official email only comes from http://t.co/sf5x6ACU not wikileaks.de etc. when in doubt call http://t.co/XBFDMJDBNov 09 23:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Me too! I really like it.Nov 09 23:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joshuagay/@joshuagay] RT @fsf Only 250 short of 20,000 confirmed signatures! Sign now. Stand up for your freedom to install free software http://ur1.ca/5fq1q !fsfNov 09 23:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] I just signed this statement against "Secure Boot" -- http://identi.ca/url/54986205 -- join me! !librefmNov 09 23:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Opinion: You can't bank on free speech | Al Jazeera http://t.co/1SdbujUmNov 09 23:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: #EU helping to bring more tourism SMEs in the digital value chain http://t.co/S9XbrZiZ http://p.ost.im/p/ekKAXnNov 09 23:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] i don't think it's atypical at all; we hear complaints regularly. it's gotten much better, but is still too complex and error prone.Nov 09 23:16
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