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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Expedition Jacket from SCOTTEVEST/SeV - Expedition Jacket with Hidden Pockets - #edc http://goo.gl/W96C6 http://goo.gl/rdN13 | Nov 10 00:09 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://slashdot.org/story/11/11/09/1920247/microsoft-killing-silverlight | Nov 10 00:12 |
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| DaemonFC | "Silverlight 5 might be last version released by Microsoft. Several industry insiders and partners for the last few weeks have heard from their own Microsoft sources that there won't be new versions released after Silverlight 5. Status on service packs and support for Silverlight is unclear, as Microsoft haven't yet released lifecycle support end date even for the previous Silverlight 4. By their support page they will give full year head-up | Nov 10 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | before ending support. With Adobe ending development of Flash for mobile browsers and Microsoft ending development of Silverlight, HTML5 video looks a lot more promising. But will content providers be able to give out their material without DRM and how does HTML5 perform with non-video side of Flash and Silverlight?" | Nov 10 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | How does HTML 5 perform on the non-video side of Flash and Silverlight? | Nov 10 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | Really? | Nov 10 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | REALLY!? | Nov 10 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | *sigh* Slashdot gets worse every day | Nov 10 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | it depends entirely on the browser engine, same as any web specification has ever been on any browser, expect IE will be the worst and Chrome, Opera, and Firefox will support nearly all of it with minor gaps and different bugs | Nov 10 00:15 |
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| DaemonFC | I'm sure it won't be worse than Flash or Silverlight on any of them though | Nov 10 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | Opera 11.60 does finally support CSS 3 rounded corners without prefixing the CSS with -o- | Nov 10 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | that only took them like forever | Nov 10 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | granted it's a minor thing, but what took so long? | Nov 10 00:18 |
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| DaemonFC | http://developers.slashdot.org/story/11/11/09/1518205/adobe-ends-development-of-flash-on-mobile-browsers | Nov 10 00:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Adobe Ends Development of Flash On Mobile Browsers - Slashdot .::. Size~: 163.97 KB | Nov 10 00:29 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Nov 10 00:30 |
| DaemonFC | no more Silverlight and no more mobile Flash | Nov 10 00:30 |
| schestowitz | lots of articles about it | Nov 10 00:30 |
| schestowitz | some specuiative | Nov 10 00:30 |
| schestowitz | about what Adobe is planning | Nov 10 00:30 |
| schestowitz | I guess that with vp8 in youtube one can just see the writings on the wall | Nov 10 00:30 |
| DaemonFC | they'd be doing well to ditch Flash since the future is coming with or without them | Nov 10 00:30 |
| DaemonFC | and focus on making really nice professional tools for HTML 5 development | Nov 10 00:30 |
| schestowitz | I guess that already exists | Nov 10 00:31 |
| schestowitz | and Adobe is not all that necessary for that | Nov 10 00:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Innovative Idea Group joined W3C - Innovative Idea Group joined as a new W3C Member. http://ow.ly/1fzo4j | Nov 10 00:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Online Publishers Association joined W3C - Online Publishers Association joined as a new W3C Member. http://ow.ly/1fzo4l | Nov 10 00:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Innovative Idea Group - InnovativeIdeaGroup.com .::. Size~: 0.28 KB | Nov 10 00:31 |
| schestowitz | Silver Lie failed too | Nov 10 00:31 |
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| DaemonFC | it's not like you need Photoshop to edit images | Nov 10 00:31 |
| schestowitz | They can't beat standatds just yet | Nov 10 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | but people who don't actually need it use it | Nov 10 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | maybe HTML 5 will be the same for them | Nov 10 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | I think that's the line of thought going on at Adobe | Nov 10 00:32 |
| DaemonFC | maybe they can "Photoshop" HTML 5 and make their editing tools synonymous with it | Nov 10 00:32 |
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| DaemonFC | is there an XMPP server other than Google's that works? | Nov 10 00:59 |
| DaemonFC | by works I mean of course, doesn't disconnect me every few minutes if I try using SSL? | Nov 10 01:00 |
| DaemonFC | http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/2434/snapshot3t.png | Nov 10 01:05 |
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| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 10 01:05 |
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| DaemonFC | Opera has a decent IRC client | Nov 10 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | but only decent | Nov 10 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | it would do in a pinch if you had nothing else | Nov 10 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | same for Pidgin or Empathy though | Nov 10 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | their browser and mail/news/rss client is awesome | Nov 10 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | OMG Mono is now advertising Emesene | Nov 10 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | I have the same problem with that that I do with KMess | Nov 10 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | they only support MSN, and they act like it's something you should continue using and promote to others even though they can't guarantee Microsoft won't break them again next week | Nov 10 01:12 |
| DaemonFC | the MSN plug-ins in multi-protocol messengers is acceptable because it provides backward compatibility with MSN if you have a few stubborn contacts that won't upgrade to XMPP | Nov 10 01:12 |
| DaemonFC | having open source programs that speak Microsoft protocols and API is only acceptable in a narrow context of lessening the friction of migrating off Microsoft platforms | Nov 10 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | suggesting that people use something you're not even allowed to see the documentation to is dishonest | Nov 10 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | it encourages them to stay in the trap | Nov 10 01:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] It was definitely an 'or something'. | Nov 10 01:18 | |
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| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Emesene has been touched by an uncle | Nov 10 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | uncle fester? | Nov 10 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | isn't he out promoting the Zune? oh wait. | Nov 10 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | Silverlight? no | Nov 10 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | .NET? Too soon? | Nov 10 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | Bing is still going. As a money pit, not a money maker. | Nov 10 01:27 |
| DaemonFC | Windows and Office. That's it! | Nov 10 01:27 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 10 01:27 |
| DaemonFC | Windows store Windows store Windows store!!!! *Where what's yours is ours and what's ours is ours.* | Nov 10 01:27 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @parlementum I have been running my own server for over a year now and still never lose the giddy feeling when something actually wor ... | Nov 10 01:28 | |
| DaemonFC | I understand Firefox and Opera taking Microsoft's money to make Bing an "option" | Nov 10 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | it hasn't gained Microsoft any users, but it has meant millions more dollars for Opera and Firefox development | Nov 10 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft got the worse end of the deal | Nov 10 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | if Firefox and Opera want to make a native Windows 8 "metro" app, it means that they'll have to coat it in Microsoft's DRM | Nov 10 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | "No installing Firefox on mroe than five Windows computers with each Microsoft account" | Nov 10 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | and it means Microsoft gets to name its own price for a spot i nthe "store" since users have no other way of installing it | Nov 10 01:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #SHTF Survival: 10 Survival Tools That Should Be In Your Survival Pack | Ready Nutrition #edc http://goo.gl/8FSEf | Nov 10 01:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Meet BMW’s New All-Electric i3 SUV And Hybrid-Electric i8 Sports Car | TechCrunch #scitek http://goo.gl/kMrtN | Nov 10 01:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Where The Buffalo Roamed – How Far Can You Get From McDonald's? #usa #frankenfood http://goo.gl/4w4O | Nov 10 01:38 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/11/this-unity-5-0-mockup-has-me-sold-what-about-you/ | Nov 10 01:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: This Unity 5.0 Mockup Has Me Sold – What About You? .::. Size~: 172.46 KB | Nov 10 01:38 |
| DaemonFC | interesting | Nov 10 01:38 |
| DaemonFC | Mac OS X Ubuntu Edition | Nov 10 01:38 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Nov 10 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | Mac OS Ubuntu Edition. | Nov 10 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | Is the Muslim Guy Fawkes optional? | Nov 10 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | ALLAHU AKBAR!!!!! | Nov 10 01:41 |
| *DaemonFC runs towards the UK parliament with a bomb powered by Unity | Nov 10 01:41 | |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Nov 10 01:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] We built http://openattribute.com/ last year with community support. Help us continue to develop these tools creativecommons.net/donate/ | Nov 10 01:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] cryptogon.com » Most Store #Honey Isn’t Honey #usa #frankenfood http://ur1.ca/5pwcb http://goo.gl/nyqnv | Nov 10 01:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] US academics still On the Take and Loving it compare http://t.co/VMOHiFKc with http://t.co/rmVVdDye | Nov 10 01:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 10 01:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 10 01:51 |
| DaemonFC | "Ultra filtering is a high-tech procedure where honey is heated, sometimes watered down and then forced at high pressure through extremely small filters to remove pollen, which is the only foolproof sign identifying the source of the honey. It is a spin-off of a technique refined by the Chinese, who have illegally dumped tons of their honey – some containing illegal antibiotics – on the U.S. market for years." | Nov 10 01:54 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Nov 10 01:54 |
| DaemonFC | just be glad it isn't high fructose corn syrup being marketed as corn honey | Nov 10 01:54 |
| DaemonFC | yet | Nov 10 01:54 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 10 01:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Israel Hires Internet Soldiers to Penetrate American Forums, Chatrooms | Ron Paul 2012 | #zionism http://goo.gl/8PQ63 | Nov 10 01:56 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/11/search-through-your-tomboy-notes-with-unity-tomboy-lens/ | Nov 10 01:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Unity Tomboy Lens Makes Searching, Opening Your Notes Easy in Ubuntu .::. Size~: 57.21 KB | Nov 10 01:57 |
| DaemonFC | even though Tomboy is going away, there are still Mono people trying to dig it in deeper into Ubuntu | Nov 10 01:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Activist Post: Americans Are Now Living In a Society That Rivals Orwell’s 1984 - #usa #policestate http://goo.gl/6i79V | Nov 10 01:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Email to Costas Menegakis, Member of Parliament, Richmond Hill: http://bit.ly/sicrOE #copyright #cdnpoli #wipo #politics #Bill-C11 | Nov 10 01:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Good The Bad & The Schving Schving.mov - YouTube #stopfinancialterrorism http://ur1.ca/5pwxp | Nov 10 02:01 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?64786-Concerns-Over-No-PAE-Kernel-In-Ubuntu-12.04-LTS&p=237821#post237821 | Nov 10 02:06 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Australia-Obama: Nov 17 Obama protest to be led by Assange's mother over US attempts to shut down WikiLeaks http://t.co/hHvGut2q | Nov 10 02:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 10 02:11 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/how_to_spot_openwashing.php | Nov 10 02:12 |
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| DaemonFC | "Take NASA's experience with Eucalyptus Systems as an example. NASA's Chris Kemp told The Register that the space agency had concerns that Eucalyptus's open source private cloud computing solution couldn't scale to meet the agency's needs. NASA engineers tried to contribute some new code to Eucalyptus to make it more scalable, but Eucalyptus rejected the contributions because they conflicted with code available in a closed source version it sold." | Nov 10 02:12 |
| DaemonFC | how long before Ubuntu ends up there? | Nov 10 02:13 |
| DaemonFC | or is it already there? | Nov 10 02:13 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] what's wrong? D: | Nov 10 02:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Heard about @duolingo through the Hampshire CS Talk and it's an awesome concept! Any chance it could be made free software (open source)? | Nov 10 02:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] At least they did not take your comp. | Nov 10 03:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] I may need to start using pulseaudio, and I'm not that pleased | Nov 10 03:58 | |
| digitteknohippie | reading this interview i've had burried in my seamonkey tabs for a while... this page is rather interesting http://www.muktware.com/news/2865 say what you will about torvalds, he certainly has worthy insights from his nice-boy persona. :) | Nov 10 04:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linus Torvalds: Secure Boot Is Good; But Can Be Used In Bad Ways | Muktware .::. Size~: 33.84 KB | Nov 10 04:08 |
| digitteknohippie | not that i agree with everything he said, i hasten to add. | Nov 10 04:11 |
| DaemonFC | Linus Torvalds is on the open source side of the fence | Nov 10 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | it tends to piss people like Stallman off | Nov 10 04:22 |
| digitteknohippie | and me | Nov 10 04:23 |
| DaemonFC | the differences in open source and free software are very minor | Nov 10 04:23 |
| DaemonFC | in fact, they're basically the same thing | Nov 10 04:23 |
| DaemonFC | both of them don't have a rule that says you have to grant a patent license to the recipient | Nov 10 04:23 |
| DaemonFC | so they both miss the biggest threat out there today | Nov 10 04:24 |
| digitteknohippie | well, in a similar way as the difference in angles from here to star a and star b are very minor... but keep going, and you'll end up light years apart. | Nov 10 04:24 |
| DaemonFC | the FSF's definition of free software lets a few Microsoft licenses wiggle in under the fence | Nov 10 04:24 |
| DaemonFC | where they can give you code and sue you for using it | Nov 10 04:24 |
| DaemonFC | but it's "free" | Nov 10 04:24 |
| digitteknohippie | mhmm, sounds similar to when i'm explaining to people the problem with the wtfpl | Nov 10 04:25 |
| DaemonFC | any open source or free software that doesn't come with a patent license isn't really good enough in my opinion | Nov 10 04:25 |
| DaemonFC | depends on who wrote it | Nov 10 04:25 |
| digitteknohippie | are you good enough with legalese to write up a new license? ... or does your idea fall down in that it needs patents first? | Nov 10 04:26 |
| digitteknohippie | frankly i'm in the camp that says we need en repeal all this process and software patents rubbish | Nov 10 04:27 |
| DaemonFC | the GPL 2 or 3 are both strong enough that they satisfy that need | Nov 10 04:27 |
| DaemonFC | but the free software definition leaves it out | Nov 10 04:27 |
| digitteknohippie | o right | Nov 10 04:27 |
| DaemonFC | so there are risky licenses that turn out to be "free" | Nov 10 04:27 |
| digitteknohippie | i've always had reservations about even the bsd licenses.... i mean, just look what apple did with that | Nov 10 04:30 |
| DaemonFC | The Apache license is much better than the BSD licenses | Nov 10 04:30 |
| DaemonFC | it satisfies that "you can do anything" complaint the BSD people throw at the GPL in favor of their license | Nov 10 04:31 |
| digitteknohippie | i admit, i've never read the apache license.... might go have a look right now | Nov 10 04:31 |
| DaemonFC | but the Apache License gives the recipient a patent grant | Nov 10 04:31 |
| DaemonFC | the Apache license can be used to bury the open source code into more restrictively licensed cdoe | Nov 10 04:32 |
| DaemonFC | but the patent grant survives because it's a term of the Apache license | Nov 10 04:32 |
| DaemonFC | Say Apple takes BSD licensed code and redistributes their changes under the Apple Public Source License | Nov 10 04:34 |
| DaemonFC | which is open source and also has no patent grant | Nov 10 04:34 |
| DaemonFC | you're still in danger of Apple suing you with Apple patents | Nov 10 04:35 |
| DaemonFC | but if Apple grabbed something under the Apache license and wrapped the Apple Public Source License around it, the two sets of licensing terms would combine and carry on the Apache patent grant | Nov 10 04:35 |
| DaemonFC | so in one case the user is in danger of Apple giving them code then suing them for taking it | Nov 10 04:36 |
| DaemonFC | and in the other, they aren't | Nov 10 04:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @digiphile: "Open data can be fuel for innovation, growth and job creation"-@NeelieKroesEU http://t.co/4 http://p.ost.im/p/ekEqbh | Nov 10 04:36 | |
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| digitteknohippie | what most disturbs me about all this stuff, is general public ignorance. fair enough we can expect folks likely to visit this irc channel to have at least some grasp on this stuff. ... but joe public... his ignorance is the problem. | Nov 10 04:36 |
| digitteknohippie | ow my head. i knew there was a reason i dont often read legal licenses, acts, statutes, agreements etc | Nov 10 04:46 |
| DaemonFC | http://planetromero.com/rome.ro/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Screen-shot-2010-10-05-at-4.35.15-PM-2.png | Nov 10 05:22 |
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| DaemonFC | Seems John Romero is reduced to making Facebook games on his Mac | Nov 10 05:23 |
| DaemonFC | ewww | Nov 10 05:23 |
| DaemonFC | "John Romero's about to make you his bitch" - Daikatana ad ...in "Pioneer Trail" -current project | Nov 10 05:25 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 10 05:25 |
| digitteknohippie | the words "to defeat me, you must kill john romero" seems to have new significance. ... though i'm not at all clear on what that significance is. | Nov 10 05:26 |
| DaemonFC | easy, the demons were so pissed off that they paid for Daikatana, they ripped his head from his body, stuck it on a pike, and made his beheaded body write Pioneer Trail on a Mac | Nov 10 05:27 |
| digitteknohippie | while we're on the topic of games... might as well share this link a gamer friend showed me earlier. http://pioneerspacesim.net/about *drool* | Nov 10 05:38 |
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| wayneborean | Morning. | Nov 10 05:40 |
| amarsh04 | morning | Nov 10 05:40 |
| wayneborean | Claim that Microsoft has discovered Mac OSX - rather funny really. | Nov 10 05:41 |
| wayneborean | http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2011/10/13/steven-sinofsky-accidentally-discovers-mac-os-x-through-extensive-research/ | Nov 10 05:41 |
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| wayneborean_ | Bad connection. | Nov 10 05:43 |
| wayneborean_ | Here's another one for Roy on Copyright in Canada: | Nov 10 05:43 |
| wayneborean_ | http://madhatter.ca/2011/11/09/email-to-costas-menegakis-member-of-parliament-richmond-hill/ | Nov 10 05:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Email to Costas Menegakis, Member of Parliament, Richmond Hill | Wayne Borean .::. Size~: 39.52 KB | Nov 10 05:43 |
| amarsh04 | my adsl connectin was slow for quite a while until the audible noise on the line was bad enough for the Telstra technicians to fix the bad joints on my line | Nov 10 05:44 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2011/09/30/amd-claims-ownership-of-s3-graphics-patents-that-htc-aimed-at-apple/ | Nov 10 05:45 |
| amarsh04 | connection even | Nov 10 05:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: AMD claims ownership of S3 Graphics patents that HTC aimed at Apple — RoughlyDrafted Magazine .::. Size~: 27.42 KB | Nov 10 05:45 |
| wayneborean_ | My setup is unique. It had features that are, um, well, odd. | Nov 10 05:45 |
| DaemonFC | I missed that one | Nov 10 05:45 |
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| wayneborean_ | It's a bit of a joke. | Nov 10 05:46 |
| DaemonFC | Why is he quoting Florian Mueller in every post? | Nov 10 05:46 |
| wayneborean_ | I think that AMD knows damned well that they don't own the patents, but Apple is one of their big customers, and they want to keep them happy. | Nov 10 05:46 |
| DaemonFC | did you see him linking to that garbage? I didn't until I posted that link | Nov 10 05:47 |
| DaemonFC | oops | Nov 10 05:47 |
| wayneborean_ | Maybe because he's mad at me. | Nov 10 05:47 |
| DaemonFC | AMD has been using a lot of that stuff for years without licensing it | Nov 10 05:47 |
| wayneborean_ | Daniel and I had a run in. I think I called him a fool for quoting Florian. | Nov 10 05:47 |
| DaemonFC | it's their own ass that's on the line if the judge decides HTC owns the patents | Nov 10 05:47 |
| DaemonFC | because AMD will be the next target thanks to ATI's careless management of what they used in their hardware and drivers without paying for it | Nov 10 05:48 |
| wayneborean_ | And if Apple tosses some more business their way, it all pays off. | Nov 10 05:48 |
| DaemonFC | I'm hoping the patents do belong to AMD for my own reasons though | Nov 10 05:48 |
| DaemonFC | it would be more likely that S3TC gets licensed for use in Mesa | Nov 10 05:48 |
| DaemonFC | since AMD is using Mesa in their open source strategy | Nov 10 05:49 |
| DaemonFC | but I'd rather see them invalidated entirely so that anyone can use them without worrying about licenses | Nov 10 05:49 |
| wayneborean_ | In my opinion the patent system should be nuked. | Nov 10 05:49 |
| wayneborean_ | Patents are anti-capitalist. | Nov 10 05:49 |
| DaemonFC | patents chum the waters and get entrenched bloated companies who own a lot of them to beat royalties out of small companies that don't | Nov 10 05:50 |
| wayneborean_ | Patents are for Ogilarchies. | Nov 10 05:51 |
| azalyn | ... what the hell | Nov 10 05:55 |
| azalyn | what kind of arrangement to amd and apple have? just the radeon cards? | Nov 10 05:55 |
| azalyn | they're defending apple just because of that? | Nov 10 05:55 |
| azalyn | apple has both radeon and geforce products.. | Nov 10 05:55 |
| azalyn | that's ridiculous. | Nov 10 05:56 |
| DaemonFC | yeah but the Radeons are used in more of their systems | Nov 10 05:56 |
| DaemonFC | they're good hardware | Nov 10 05:56 |
| azalyn | ugh. | Nov 10 05:56 |
| azalyn | amd is between a rock and a hard place.. | Nov 10 05:56 |
| DaemonFC | it's in AMD's interest to protect a huge customer | Nov 10 05:56 |
| azalyn | i mean android is on the line here.. | Nov 10 05:56 |
| DaemonFC | I understand that | Nov 10 05:56 |
| MinceR | that's "To win the game you must kill me, John Romero." | Nov 10 05:56 |
| DaemonFC | AMD is on the rocks because of stupid things ATI did | Nov 10 05:56 |
| DaemonFC | if they don't protect Apple, they'll not only lose a huge customer, but be the target of the next lawsuit from HTC | Nov 10 05:57 |
| azalyn | s3tc is vital for any modern hardware.. ati had no choice if they used it. | Nov 10 05:57 |
| DaemonFC | once they get Apple by the balls and set a precedent | Nov 10 05:57 |
| wayneborean_ | GeForce is NVidia. Apple dumped NVidia. Apple is probably AMD's largest customer for graphics cards. | Nov 10 05:57 |
| DaemonFC | I use Radeons only, myself | Nov 10 05:58 |
| azalyn | me too. | Nov 10 05:58 |
| DaemonFC | Nvidia has a lot of business practices that offend me | Nov 10 05:58 |
| azalyn | ever since amd announced their opensource strategy. | Nov 10 05:58 |
| DaemonFC | main reason | Nov 10 05:58 |
| azalyn | i ditched nvidia. | Nov 10 05:58 |
| wayneborean_ | All ATI/AMD here. | Nov 10 05:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Kick-off meeting on @AppsForLeuven was very productive. More news soon! | Nov 10 05:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @FunkStar_ @mobilerev bah, gezonde concurrentie kan geen kwaad ;) | Nov 10 05:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Jan_Joris we zijn net begonnen. We houden je wel op de hoogte dan :) | Nov 10 05:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp read-only git clone is moeilijk omdat over andere poorten werkt. Een read/write werkt op github e.d. over po ... | Nov 10 05:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @greetd ziet ernaar uit dat je met een virus zit. Enige remedie: ubuntu installeren ;) | Nov 10 05:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @peter_v #TheDataTank is indeed written in PHP. iRail nowadays contains projects in any language. We ha http://ur1. ... | Nov 10 05:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @t1mdp: Nieuwsberichten over #Sabam lijken altijd van @rechtzetting te komen. | Nov 10 05:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @Miel_vds: Work in progress #Semantifier: HTML5/jQuery community authoring tool for #metadata and #o http://ur1. ... | Nov 10 05:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @saschel: Barcamp voor datanerds aka Datasalon gaat door op vrijdag 25/11 in de Vooruit in Gent http http://ur1. ... | Nov 10 05:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @MarijkeRia uiteraard! | Nov 10 05:58 | |
| DaemonFC | Nvidia hates open source | Nov 10 05:58 |
| DaemonFC | strike 1 | Nov 10 05:58 |
| azalyn | well, google is certainly rich enough... hopefully they figure something out. | Nov 10 05:58 |
| DaemonFC | Nvidia's board donates heavily to get things like California's Proposition 8 passed | Nov 10 05:58 |
| Brendan_T | me too, free software all the way | Nov 10 05:58 |
| azalyn | ice cream sandwich was apparently designed to avoid patents. | Nov 10 05:58 |
| DaemonFC | strike 2 | Nov 10 05:58 |
| azalyn | so that's certainly a good indicator. | Nov 10 05:59 |
| DaemonFC | Nvidia costs a lot more and ends up delivering less | Nov 10 05:59 |
| DaemonFC | strike 3 | Nov 10 05:59 |
| azalyn | all they'd have to do is upgrade all devices to android 4.0, and poof. problem solved. | Nov 10 05:59 |
| wayneborean_ | Read Charlie Demerjian's coverage of NVidia. It will scare you. | Nov 10 05:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @DirDigEng I'm not going to point fingers, but we are working on it :) #belgium #opendata | Nov 10 05:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Dear organisations, you do not have open data when I have to come to your office and sign a paper first http://ur1. ... | Nov 10 05:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @svenhoutmeyers: Apps for Leuven! (@ Arenbergkasteel) http://t.co/2pmc7NOe | Nov 10 05:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @jejansse I have time starting February. Let's reserve some time for this? | Nov 10 05:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @MyLex: Als het maar schuift, nietwaar: De Standaard - 'Sabam vraagt vergoeding voor auteurs op inte http://ur1. ... | Nov 10 05:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp @hannesvdvreken wanneer is deadline? Voor februari heb ik geen tijd meer | Nov 10 05:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @jan_homble: De #VRT organiseert een Mashup-wedstrijd met het online-aanbod van #Canvastv en #StuBru http://ur1. ... | Nov 10 05:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @piether join je de mailinglist? We houden je dan zo op de hoogte van wat er werd gezegd | Nov 10 05:59 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 10 05:59 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @jochemgoovaerts: actie 10/11 in ateliers mag volgens vakbonden geen hinder voor reizigers geven, NM http://ur1. ... | Nov 10 05:59 | |
| wayneborean_ | WTF is that? | Nov 10 06:00 |
| DaemonFC | Apple isn't taking advantage of all the features of the Radeon HDs they are shipping | Nov 10 06:00 |
| DaemonFC | not even close | Nov 10 06:00 |
| DaemonFC | they write their own video drivers for them in house under NDA from AMD | Nov 10 06:01 |
| wayneborean_ | Doesn't matter. They buy a ton of them. AMD is going to keep them happy. | Nov 10 06:01 |
| DaemonFC | and they have less features than AMD Catalyst does on Windows or Linux | Nov 10 06:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @peter_v use #TheDataTank: http://t.co/hIsRXGPZ | Nov 10 06:01 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 10 06:01 |
| DaemonFC | the Apple Radeon drivers are wicked bad | Nov 10 06:01 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 10 06:01 |
| DaemonFC | they're slower than Mesa | Nov 10 06:02 |
| DaemonFC | they lie about the level of OpenGL and GLSL they support | Nov 10 06:02 |
| wayneborean_ | Cory Doctorow on Copyright: | Nov 10 06:02 |
| wayneborean_ | http://www.locusmag.com/Perspectives/2011/11/cory-doctorow-its-time-to-stop-talking-about-copyright/ | Nov 10 06:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Locus Online Perspectives » Cory Doctorow: It’s Time to Stop Talking About Copyright .::. Size~: 79.53 KB | Nov 10 06:02 |
| DaemonFC | to hide missing chunks and bugs | Nov 10 06:02 |
| DaemonFC | they're an insult to the hardware | Nov 10 06:02 |
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| azalyn | damn.. :| | Nov 10 06:02 |
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| azalyn | what did i last say? | Nov 10 06:03 |
| DaemonFC | [00:58] <azalyn> all they'd have to do is upgrade all devices to android 4.0, and poof. problem solved. | Nov 10 06:03 |
| wayneborean_ | I dropped a Knoppix CD in my MacBook tonight. God did it look insanely good. | Nov 10 06:03 |
| azalyn | last i saw from you, DaemonFC, was: | Nov 10 06:03 |
| azalyn | [01:00:14] <DaemonFC> Nvidia costs a lot more and ends up delivering less | Nov 10 06:03 |
| azalyn | [01:00:16] <DaemonFC> strike 3 | Nov 10 06:03 |
| DaemonFC | I went on to say what an abomination Apple's Radeon drivers are | Nov 10 06:03 |
| DaemonFC | and that they're even worse than AMD Catalyst Linux | Nov 10 06:03 |
| wayneborean_ | Apple's Radeon drivers would make Cthulhu look good. | Nov 10 06:04 |
| DaemonFC | and in some ways, worse than Mesa too | Nov 10 06:04 |
| azalyn | holy crap | Nov 10 06:04 |
| azalyn | that flooded my screen | Nov 10 06:04 |
| azalyn | DaemonFC: did you see what i pasted? i pasted what i last saw from you. not sure if it was sent.. | Nov 10 06:05 |
| DaemonFC | Nvidia's hardware ends up supporting less of OpenGL in hardware than what Radeon HDs do | Nov 10 06:05 |
| DaemonFC | they make up for it by having their driver run the missing bits on your CPU | Nov 10 06:05 |
| DaemonFC | they optimize heavily in favor of DirectX | Nov 10 06:05 |
| DaemonFC | I saw it | Nov 10 06:05 |
| wayneborean_ | My main deaktop has a Radeon HD card. Very nice. | Nov 10 06:05 |
| azalyn | i know about apple's drivers. i found this out when steam came out on mac. the valve devs that did the port for the source engine discovered it. | Nov 10 06:06 |
| azalyn | they found that the bottleneck are the drivers | Nov 10 06:06 |
| azalyn | that's where cpu time is spent | Nov 10 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | not only that, Apple's OpenGL implementation wasn't good enough to run Valve's games anyway | Nov 10 06:06 |
| azalyn | people were accusing valve, saying that their opengl->d3d layer was the slow part. | Nov 10 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | they weren't even capable of Occlusion Query | Nov 10 06:07 |
| azalyn | but the devs showed that it wasn't | Nov 10 06:07 |
| DaemonFC | so not even Half Life 2 would run | Nov 10 06:07 |
| azalyn | the linux proprietary stack is based on the windows drivers. | Nov 10 06:07 |
| DaemonFC | they publicly shamed Apple into improving their OpenGL stack just enough to make most of Valve's games work | Nov 10 06:07 |
| azalyn | so the linux drivers have closer parity with the windows ones | Nov 10 06:07 |
| wayneborean_ | Heh. Apple does some decent stuff. Garage Band, Logic Pro. But they also fuckup big time. | Nov 10 06:07 |
| azalyn | apple is never publically shamed. | Nov 10 06:08 |
| azalyn | apple can kill kittens in public, and their fans would find some way to justify it | Nov 10 06:08 |
| wayneborean_ | No, like Microsoft they never admit their mistakes. | Nov 10 06:08 |
| DaemonFC | those kittens said bad things about the ipad | Nov 10 06:08 |
| azalyn | "those kittens were infringing on apple's patents!" | Nov 10 06:08 |
| azalyn | "method for being totally adorable" | Nov 10 06:08 |
| wayneborean_ | But you have to remember that Apple is the main cause for Microsoft's slide. | Nov 10 06:09 |
| DaemonFC | yes, but Apple products infringe the kittens patents on being cute and fluffy | Nov 10 06:09 |
| azalyn | wayneborean_: i prefer microsoft to apple. | Nov 10 06:10 |
| DaemonFC | cats have no DRM | Nov 10 06:10 |
| azalyn | at least no one deludes themselves and thinks microsoft are the best thing since sliced bread. | Nov 10 06:10 |
| DaemonFC | they copy themselves a lot | Nov 10 06:10 |
| wayneborean_ | Microsoft is more damgerous than Apple. | Nov 10 06:10 |
| azalyn | people know microsoft are jerks, people are just complacent. | Nov 10 06:10 |
| wayneborean_ | Did you read this: | Nov 10 06:10 |
| azalyn | wayneborean_: i disagree. short-term you may be right, not long-term, no. | Nov 10 06:10 |
| wayneborean_ | http://semiaccurate.com/2011/04/28/once-is-happenstance-twice-is-coincidence-the-third-time-its-enemy-action/ | Nov 10 06:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it’s enemy action. | SemiAccurate .::. Size~: 176.62 KB | Nov 10 06:11 |
| azalyn | microsoft is hated by everyone. that is one reason behind apple's success. | Nov 10 06:11 |
| azalyn | where as people actually like apple | Nov 10 06:11 |
| azalyn | they love them | Nov 10 06:11 |
| azalyn | it's like a religion | Nov 10 06:11 |
| wayneborean_ | Hate has nothing to do with it. The big think that matters is IWork. | Nov 10 06:11 |
| azalyn | steve jobs was treated like a rock star | Nov 10 06:11 |
| azalyn | he was compared to einstein for fucks sake | Nov 10 06:11 |
| DaemonFC | iWork is awful | Nov 10 06:12 |
| azalyn | religion is always more dangerous. | Nov 10 06:12 |
| DaemonFC | not just because it's unusable | Nov 10 06:12 |
| DaemonFC | but it promotes Microsoft OOXML as the export format | Nov 10 06:12 |
| azalyn | microsoft just 'is'. if microsoft died tomorrow, no one would care.. where as apple has a legion of zombies following them | Nov 10 06:12 |
| wayneborean_ | IWork is a lot cheaper than Microsoft Office, and is taking the Mac market over. | Nov 10 06:12 |
| DaemonFC | and in turn, Apple pays Microsoft royalties on OOXML | Nov 10 06:12 |
| DaemonFC | so what's the point? | Nov 10 06:13 |
| DaemonFC | who wins? | Nov 10 06:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @marjoleink: good morning / !tzag dear Laconicats! -- Morning! | Nov 10 06:13 | |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft and Apple no matter what you use on OSX | Nov 10 06:13 |
| wayneborean_ | The point is that the major profit center at Microsoft is Microsoft Office. Kill Office, and you kill Microsoft. | Nov 10 06:13 |
| DaemonFC | not if they're being paid for each copy of iWork anyway | Nov 10 06:13 |
| DaemonFC | I'd also like to point out that Calligra and LibreOffice both have Mac versions | Nov 10 06:14 |
| wayneborean_ | Microsoft makes nothing out of IWork, at least nothing compared to what they make if they sell a copy of Office. | Nov 10 06:14 |
| DaemonFC | they make nothing on LibreOffice period | Nov 10 06:15 |
| DaemonFC | which is also catching on with Windows users | Nov 10 06:15 |
| wayneborean_ | Which is the next point. LibreOffice is advancing at high speed, and is eating into market share. | Nov 10 06:15 |
| DaemonFC | I finally got rid of Windows when I was running so much open source stuff on it there was no reason to even have it anymore | Nov 10 06:15 |
| DaemonFC | open source software should run on Windows | Nov 10 06:16 |
| DaemonFC | the dangerous part is where it neglects open source platforms, in favor of Windows | Nov 10 06:16 |
| DaemonFC | which is where Firefox is heading | Nov 10 06:16 |
| wayneborean_ | Firefox has problems dealing with PHP on non-windows platforms. I think it is related to an add-on. | Nov 10 06:17 |
| DaemonFC | the Seamonkey project is still very interested in Linux | Nov 10 06:17 |
| DaemonFC | because most of their developers use Linux | Nov 10 06:18 |
| wayneborean_ | Thanks for letting me know about Calligra - I'm going to test it. | Nov 10 06:18 |
| DaemonFC | but since they only develop the browser, they have the problem with Firefox optimizing the Gecko platform for Windows | Nov 10 06:18 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 10 06:18 |
| wayneborean_ | Hey, they can always swap to something else. | Nov 10 06:19 |
| DaemonFC | https://launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+archive/peppa | Nov 10 06:20 |
| wayneborean_ | Anyway, it's nearly 1:30, I have to go to sleep. Just thought I'd drop in, see what's happening. It has been a while. | Nov 10 06:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Padoca Experimental PPA : Paulo Dias .::. Size~: 17.59 KB | Nov 10 06:20 |
| DaemonFC | this PPA has Calligra packaged for *buntu | Nov 10 06:20 |
| DaemonFC | and Amarok 2.5 builds | Nov 10 06:21 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm | Nov 10 06:21 |
| wayneborean_ | KUbubtu? | Nov 10 06:21 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, but there's no reason you couldn't run it on other editions | Nov 10 06:21 |
| DaemonFC | I pulled in the Amarok 2.5 beta from there | Nov 10 06:23 |
| DaemonFC | I had noticed it was out but never bothered to find a copy | Nov 10 06:24 |
| DaemonFC | it has an Amazon MP3 store in it | Nov 10 06:24 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Nov 10 06:24 |
| DaemonFC | Welcome to this testing version of Amarok. | Nov 10 06:24 |
| DaemonFC | To help us improve it, your comments are important. | Nov 10 06:24 |
| DaemonFC | Each time you have a great or frustrating experience, please click on the appropriate face below the window title bar, briefly describe what you like or dislike and click on 'Send'. | Nov 10 06:24 |
| DaemonFC | If you experience an improper behavior in the application, just click on the bug icon in the top-right corner of the window and follow the instructions to submit a bug report. | Nov 10 06:24 |
| DaemonFC | Examples: | Nov 10 06:24 |
| DaemonFC |  I like the new artwork. Very refreshing. | Nov 10 06:24 |
| wayneborean_ | I use Amazon to sell books :) | Nov 10 06:24 |
| DaemonFC |  I dislike the welcome page of this assistant. Too time consuming. | Nov 10 06:24 |
| DaemonFC |  The application shows an improper behavior when clicking the Add button. Nothing happens. | Nov 10 06:24 |
| DaemonFC |  I desire a new feature allowing me to send my work by email. | Nov 10 06:24 |
| DaemonFC | BBC is added | Nov 10 06:26 |
| DaemonFC | so is NPR | Nov 10 06:26 |
| DaemonFC | and the Amazon MP3 store | Nov 10 06:26 |
| wayneborean_ | Too bad there's no way to bypass Channel Four's UK only website. | Nov 10 06:27 |
| DaemonFC | also a new entry called Free Music Charts | Nov 10 06:27 |
| wayneborean_ | Anyway, I really gotta go fall down. Night all. | Nov 10 06:28 |
| DaemonFC | night | Nov 10 06:28 |
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| DaemonFC | Amarok | Nov 10 06:28 |
| DaemonFC | Version 2.4-GIT | Nov 10 06:28 |
| DaemonFC | Using KDE 4.7.3 (4.7.3) | Nov 10 06:28 |
| DaemonFC | (Build Date: Nov 9 2011) | Nov 10 06:28 |
| DaemonFC | I'm pulling in the Calligra suite now | Nov 10 06:30 |
| DaemonFC | segfault :) | Nov 10 06:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Barnes & Noble’s 29-page slide deck calls B.S. on Microsoft’s Android patent campaign http://ur1.ca/5q34i | Nov 10 06:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] FUDcon Pune 2011 videos now online - http://ur1.ca/5q3dq | Nov 10 06:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @kevie ♻ @wikileaks2 Australia-Obama:Nov17 Obama protest to be led by Assange's mother over US attempts to shut down WikiLea... http: ... | Nov 10 07:11 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/fcc-plans-cheap-internet-service-and-computers-to-connect-poor-americans/2011/11/08/gIQArnbp3M_story.html?wprss=rss_homepage | Nov 10 07:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: FCC plans cheap Internet service and computers to connect poor Americans - The Washington Post .::. Size~: 94.79 KB | Nov 10 07:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Awesome! Did a "preupgrade" on my F15 machine, downloaded everything needed, rebooted and now F16 is alive. Kudos to Fedora Engineering! | Nov 10 07:29 | |
| DaemonFC | "Redemtech, a computer refurbishing firm, will offer those families laptops or desktops for $150, with free home shipping and 90 days of tech support. Microsoft will provide new computers for eligible school-lunch families for $250." | Nov 10 07:30 |
| DaemonFC | DaemonFC wrote: | Nov 10 07:34 |
| DaemonFC | 2:33 AM GMT-0500 | Nov 10 07:34 |
| DaemonFC | Say thanks to Microsoft kids! Now go install GNU/Linux on them | Nov 10 07:34 |
| DaemonFC | Recommend | Nov 10 07:34 |
| DaemonFC | Reply | Nov 10 07:34 |
| DaemonFC | Report | Nov 10 07:34 |
| DaemonFC | I've had people say "I'll bet you wouldn't take a Mac if it was free" to me before | Nov 10 07:35 |
| DaemonFC | I usually reply with "Only if the firmware somewhat resembled the EFI spec so that Linux would run on it" | Nov 10 07:36 |
| azalyn | macs do use EFI. | Nov 10 07:38 |
| azalyn | and linux does run on them. | Nov 10 07:38 |
| DaemonFC | sometimes | Nov 10 07:39 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 10 07:39 |
| DaemonFC | Apple EFI usually violates the spec | Nov 10 07:40 |
| DaemonFC | Linux will run on them provided it has an appropriate quirk to help it deal with broken Apple firmware | Nov 10 07:40 |
| DaemonFC | Matthew Garrett has been writing those a lot lately :) | Nov 10 07:40 |
| DaemonFC | before he began it was totally hit or miss and his advice was "If you want to buy a Mac to run Linux, just don't" | Nov 10 07:41 |
| DaemonFC | you have two options if your Mac EFI is too broken and standards violating to run Linux | Nov 10 07:41 |
| DaemonFC | you can run it in Boot Camp, which emulates a BIOS and calls Linux "Windows" | Nov 10 07:42 |
| DaemonFC | or you can run Linux under an emulator like VirtualBox | Nov 10 07:42 |
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| DaemonFC | or you can throw it out and get a real computer I guess | Nov 10 07:43 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 10 07:43 |
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| MinceR | considering their hardware quality, you're better off with a real PC | Nov 10 08:11 |
| MinceR | or even a dHell | Nov 10 08:11 |
| MinceR | geekings | Nov 10 08:13 |
| schestowitz | Morning MinceR | Nov 10 08:13 |
| schestowitz | Sorry I've been so quiet in IRC recently | Nov 10 08:13 |
| schestowitz | Also no blog posts, I'll resume today | Nov 10 08:14 |
| schestowitz | Longer and better researched | Nov 10 08:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Up for review: 3.0.9 http://bit.ly/tmJgQC 3.1.1 http://bit.ly/shBrSf #stable #linux #kernel | Nov 10 08:20 | |
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| azalyn | my thinkpad has EFI. | Nov 10 08:34 |
| azalyn | not sure if that's good or bad... | Nov 10 08:34 |
| schestowitz | Kill it with fire :-) | Nov 10 08:34 |
| azalyn | if they comply with the spec, i guess it's not that bad. | Nov 10 08:34 |
| azalyn | secure boot isn't on there yet. that comes with win8. | Nov 10 08:34 |
| azalyn | neither are any of the drm stuff.. it's really just a bios right now. | Nov 10 08:34 |
| azalyn | the 'early' stage i guess.. | Nov 10 08:35 |
| DaemonFC | why is it "upgrading" Opera to the build I already have? | Nov 10 08:35 |
| DaemonFC | Preparing to replace opera 11.60.1147 (using .../opera_11.60.1147_amd64.deb) ... | Nov 10 08:35 |
| DaemonFC | :/ | Nov 10 08:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #FFII objects to secret INTA committee meeting on #ACTA http://ur1.ca/5pe2k #eu | Nov 10 08:37 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Good news about Amarok | Nov 10 08:38 |
| DaemonFC | the memory use of 2.5 has been cut in half | Nov 10 08:38 |
| azalyn | so it's now 1GB instead of 2GB ? | Nov 10 08:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Gericht weist #AVMs Anspruch gegen Modifizierungen dritter an #GPL-Software zurück http://ur1.ca/5q4ne !gnu !fsfe !fs | Nov 10 08:41 | |
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| DaemonFC | ~120 MB now | Nov 10 08:42 |
| DaemonFC | compared to over 250 in 2.4 | Nov 10 08:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @fsfe Court rejects #AVM´s claims opposing third party modifications of #GPL software http://ur1.ca/5q4nm !fsfe !fs !gnu | Nov 10 08:42 | |
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| DaemonFC | and they've ADDED features | Nov 10 08:43 |
| DaemonFC | that's nice when things become more useful and smaller | Nov 10 08:43 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 10 08:43 |
| *DaemonFC is listening to No Excuses by Alice In Chains on Jar of Flies [Amarok] | Nov 10 08:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Bag packed for #FSCONS. A few more hours of paperwork, calls & mail, and then it's off to Gothenburg! | Nov 10 08:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #tzag identizens. | Nov 10 08:44 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/777305 | Nov 10 08:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 10 08:47 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.webupd8.org/2010/03/install-defrag-defragmentation.html | Nov 10 08:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Install Defrag (Defragmentation Application) In Ubuntu ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 65.41 KB | Nov 10 08:50 |
| DaemonFC | Defrag? | Nov 10 08:50 |
| DaemonFC | Someone hasn't heard of xfs_fsr | Nov 10 08:50 |
| DaemonFC | poor someone | Nov 10 08:50 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 10 08:50 |
| DaemonFC | I run fsr every few months, it's not like it desperately needs it | Nov 10 08:51 |
| DaemonFC | but it makes me feel warm and fuzzy | Nov 10 08:51 |
| DaemonFC | fsr is the major reason xfs doesn't reserve 10% of your hard disk | Nov 10 08:52 |
| DaemonFC | if Ext gets fragmented, there's nothing you can do about it | Nov 10 08:52 |
| DaemonFC | at least, nothing reasonable or easy | Nov 10 08:52 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: http://www.unixmen.com/news-today/1966-linuxmint-is-now-the-king-of-distros-finally | Nov 10 08:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 10 08:54 |
| schestowitz | see the comment from lead dev of pclos: | Nov 10 08:54 |
| DaemonFC | You mean the "It's always 2003 in PCLinuxOS land" guy? | Nov 10 08:54 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 10 08:54 |
| schestowitz | Namely: | Nov 10 08:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 10 08:54 |
| schestowitz | Submitted by Texstar on Wed, 11/09/2011 - 18:03. | Nov 10 08:54 |
| schestowitz | I wonder if they will get accused of gaming the system like what happened to us back in 2007 when PCLinuxOS took down Ubuntu on Distrowatchs HPD ranking. | Nov 10 08:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 10 08:54 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/55513 | Nov 10 08:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: LinuxMint is now the King of Linux | tuxmachines.org .::. Size~: 28.85 KB | Nov 10 08:55 |
| schestowitz | Does Mint use DW as homepage? | Nov 10 08:55 |
| DaemonFC | When will they *_FUCKING_* realize that 32-bit x86 is not an option | Nov 10 08:55 |
| DaemonFC | no matter how many times they say PAE, I don't want | Nov 10 08:55 |
| DaemonFC | Linux Mint uses a Minty Google as a home page | Nov 10 08:56 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 10 08:56 |
| schestowitz | That's how I remembered it | Nov 10 08:56 |
| DaemonFC | I also love how they use a package manager from Debian that was ported to RPM and has no upstream in PCLinuxOS | Nov 10 08:57 |
| schestowitz | So what texstar on about? | Nov 10 08:57 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know, the guy is bipolar or something | Nov 10 08:58 |
| DaemonFC | every time he gets penis envy he points out that they were #1 on Distrowatch for a week in 2007 | Nov 10 08:58 |
| DaemonFC | PCLinuxOS is the most horrible Linux distribution I ever hear any actual person recommend | Nov 10 08:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] From pressing the power button on my laptop to reaching the desktop takes 32 seconds. Is a 10 second boot time that important? | Nov 10 08:59 | |
| DaemonFC | even OpenSuse has a package manager with an upstream and an x86-64 version | Nov 10 08:59 |
| DaemonFC | It's 2011, there's no excuse to not have an x86-64 version. In fact, I'd like to see someone declare 32-bit x86 deprecated and unworthy of supporting so they can stop dragging x86-64 users down when something fucks up on the 32-bit version of the arch | Nov 10 09:00 |
| azalyn | i would like a 1 second boot time. | Nov 10 09:01 |
| DaemonFC | if Ubuntu would drop Upstart and use systemd, we'd at least be booting in <20 seconds on Ubuntu | Nov 10 09:01 |
| DaemonFC | most of the boot overhead is caused by Upstart running in sysvinit compatibility mode | Nov 10 09:02 |
| azalyn | am i correct in assuming that systemd isn't just an init replacement, but also a session manager for desktop environments? | Nov 10 09:02 |
| DaemonFC | it's a session manager for anything that runs on the system | Nov 10 09:02 |
| DaemonFC | in user space | Nov 10 09:02 |
| DaemonFC | period | Nov 10 09:02 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 10 09:02 |
| azalyn | gnome mentioned that they're thinking of not supporting systems without systemd. and that made be wonder why the hell an init daemon would be a dependency for a desktop environment | Nov 10 09:03 |
| azalyn | so with systemd, desktop environments no longer need their own session managers? | Nov 10 09:03 |
| DaemonFC | because it can assist them in supporting things like multiseat X | Nov 10 09:03 |
| azalyn | if so, good riddance. the xfce session manager is just bizarre. | Nov 10 09:03 |
| azalyn | it's so random | Nov 10 09:03 |
| azalyn | it doesn't restore my windows on the same desktops sometimes | Nov 10 09:04 |
| DaemonFC | Kubuntu 12.04 will come with LightDM | Nov 10 09:04 |
| DaemonFC | Bend over, they're coming back for us | Nov 10 09:04 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Nov 10 09:04 |
| DaemonFC | yuck | Nov 10 09:04 |
| azalyn | what's wrong with lightdm? | Nov 10 09:04 |
| DaemonFC | nothing, everything | Nov 10 09:04 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 10 09:04 |
| DaemonFC | as an X display manager, nothing | Nov 10 09:04 |
| azalyn | as for the 64bit thing, i also think 32bit should be abandoned. | Nov 10 09:05 |
| azalyn | all modern x86 machines do 64bit. | Nov 10 09:05 |
| DaemonFC | as far as implementing policies consistently with the desktop environment, everything | Nov 10 09:05 |
| azalyn | 32bit is only important on ARM and other arches. | Nov 10 09:05 |
| azalyn | oh.. and i guess there is intel's atom. | Nov 10 09:05 |
| azalyn | we could keep a version for that | Nov 10 09:05 |
| azalyn | but still | Nov 10 09:05 |
| DaemonFC | Atom is x86-64 now | Nov 10 09:05 |
| DaemonFC | but Atom is CPU Starter Edition anyway | Nov 10 09:05 |
| DaemonFC | so fuck em | Nov 10 09:05 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 10 09:05 |
| DaemonFC | I doubt any system ships with an Atom AND more than 4 GB of RAM | Nov 10 09:06 |
| azalyn | with x86 it's not just about the memory. | Nov 10 09:06 |
| azalyn | there's the new registers. | Nov 10 09:06 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft won't allow 4 GB of RAM in Windows Starter anyway | Nov 10 09:06 |
| DaemonFC | Vista7 enforces a 2 GB limit | Nov 10 09:06 |
| DaemonFC | XP Starter enforced a 1 GB limit | Nov 10 09:07 |
| azalyn | the registers increase performance even on systems that have lower memory. | Nov 10 09:07 |
| DaemonFC | benchmarks of x86-64 indicate that it's always faster with things like compression, decompression, encryption, and decryption | Nov 10 09:07 |
| DaemonFC | so if you use btrfs with those on x86-32 you're going to get worse performance than if you ran it under x86-64 | Nov 10 09:08 |
| azalyn | that's what's cool about amd64. it's faster even for non-optimized code. | Nov 10 09:08 |
| azalyn | where as other architectures sometimes lose performance on non-optimized code. | Nov 10 09:08 |
| DaemonFC | and it leads to a nice speedup on media codecs and file compressor utilities | Nov 10 09:08 |
| azalyn | like ppc32 vs ppc64 | Nov 10 09:08 |
| azalyn | it's all thanks to those extra registers | Nov 10 09:09 |
| DaemonFC | it's typically faster than the x86-32 configuration by 10-15% in the cases I mentioned | Nov 10 09:09 |
| DaemonFC | it's worth using even if you don't have > 4 GB of RAM | Nov 10 09:09 |
| DaemonFC | in some cases it makes no difference at all | Nov 10 09:10 |
| DaemonFC | but it does in enough cases that keep you waiting in agony for them to finish, it's worth using x86-64 if you have the choice | Nov 10 09:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Pyotr Ilyich #Tchaikovsky: Complete Works - http://bit.ly/sajECl 48 hours of tuneful wonders #spotify | Nov 10 09:11 | |
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| DaemonFC | instead of waiting 10 minutes for a huge 7zip archive to finish compressing a bunch of data | Nov 10 09:11 |
| DaemonFC | you might wait 8-9 minutes | Nov 10 09:11 |
| DaemonFC | is it worth preferring the x86-64 software in that case? sure | Nov 10 09:11 |
| azalyn | i've been using 64bit ever since i got amd64 machines. | Nov 10 09:12 |
| DaemonFC | anything that's faster with few if any drawbacks has my vote | Nov 10 09:12 |
| azalyn | i've never even ran a 32bit distro on these machines, i don't think. | Nov 10 09:12 |
| DaemonFC | the last x86-32 system I touched was like....2005 I think | Nov 10 09:12 |
| azalyn | maybe a live cd. | Nov 10 09:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Court rejects AVM´s claims opposing third party modifications of GPL software - http://bit.ly/sTs0et another big win for #gpl | Nov 10 09:12 | |
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| DaemonFC | it's not worth using x86-32 operating systems on x86-64 hardware | Nov 10 09:13 |
| DaemonFC | http://ostatic.com/blog/fuduntu-turns-one-forks-fedora | Nov 10 09:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Fuduntu Turns One, Forks Fedora .::. Size~: 37.61 KB | Nov 10 09:14 |
| DaemonFC | The Linsux Linux distro packed with nonfree crap forks Fedora, badly, and turns one | Nov 10 09:14 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 10 09:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Man faces #libel allegations over Amazon book review - http://ind.pn/t3amSL no details; probably daft (v @copyrightgirl @Philip_Hannay) | Nov 10 09:14 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Man faces libel allegations over Amazon book review - Crime - UK - The Independent .::. Size~: 92.16 KB | Nov 10 09:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] PR out [X], shower [X], breakfast [ ], airport [ ], #fscons [ ] | Nov 10 09:16 | |
| DaemonFC | The process amarok (with pid 13968) is using approximately 139.9 MB of memory. | Nov 10 09:17 |
| DaemonFC | It is using 132.3 MB privately, and a further 37.6 MB that is, or could be, shared with other programs. | Nov 10 09:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] SOPA – the Stop Online Piracy Act – Is It Really Dangerous? - http://bit.ly/ul4yce #mozilla's legal chap weighs in | Nov 10 09:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Warner Bros. Admits Sending HotFile False Takedown Requests - http://bit.ly/sHTnpc already abusing the system, and they want more? | Nov 10 09:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Warner Bros. Admits Sending HotFile False Takedown Requests | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 29.43 KB | Nov 10 09:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Private firm to run NHS hospital. http://ur1.ca/5q5dp #savetheNHS | Nov 10 09:24 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Private firm to run NHS hospital | Society | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 89.86 KB | Nov 10 09:24 |
| DaemonFC | Warner Bros is evil | Nov 10 09:25 |
| DaemonFC | they used Hollywood Accounting to cheat J. Michael Straczynski out of the royalties they owed him as producer of Babylon 5 | Nov 10 09:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] RT @fsfe Court rejects #AVM´s claims opposing third party modifications of #GPL software http://ur1.ca/5q4nm !fsfe !fs !gnu | Nov 10 09:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Barnes & Noble subpoenas Nokia over Microsoft Android lawsuit - http://bit.ly/ucappK gets even more interesting | Nov 10 09:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Patent #trolls in Piney Woods make mischief for innovators everywhere - http://bit.ly/t1vyl0 good to see guardian addressing this issue | Nov 10 09:26 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Patent trolls in Piney Woods make mischief for innovators everywhere | Law | The Guardian .::. Size~: 139.51 KB | Nov 10 09:26 |
| DaemonFC | they claimed it was a loss when they made a LOT of money on it in reality | Nov 10 09:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] [RT from last night] Which Causes More Harm: #Copyright Or #Patents? - http://bit.ly/vPeL3g in case you missed the fun | Nov 10 09:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] a few easy clicks could help KDE earn a 1000 euro sponsorshp: http://ur1.ca/5cxzb | Nov 10 09:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] tracing manufacturers and their company affiliations in China is like a little maze-game. i'm learning a lot in the process :) | Nov 10 09:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: life at the end of the universe » Help KDE e.V. secure funding for a sprint with just a few clicks .::. Size~: 43.56 KB | Nov 10 09:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] RT @babai101 please help !kde get 1000 euros sponsored! http://is.gd/Eo0hQh !linux !ubuntu | Nov 10 09:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Microsoft developing $250 computers for low-income consumers - http://tnw.co/uFyLQ9 giving away the software: wonder why...? | Nov 10 09:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: life at the end of the universe » Help KDE e.V. secure funding for a sprint with just a few clicks .::. Size~: 43.56 KB | Nov 10 09:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft developing $250 computers for low-income consumers - The Next Web .::. Size~: 108.82 KB | Nov 10 09:33 |
| DaemonFC | http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/9089/snapshot6d.png | Nov 10 09:36 |
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| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 10 09:36 |
| DaemonFC | OK, this sucks | Nov 10 09:39 |
| DaemonFC | for some reason, my GTK+ stuff does weird shit then I use kwin-gles now | Nov 10 09:39 |
| Brendan_T | I just switched from KDE to i3-wm :p. pretty decent leap. | Nov 10 09:40 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #swpats. Commercial aspects of deal keep private, but if a company is collecting on a patent they should be forced to say which one. | Nov 10 09:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I only use MS software for playing games and although I was not paid to use it I was legitimately given it for free by OEM. | Nov 10 09:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Greens say EU needs tougher import rules on feed crops - http://bit.ly/sE70We lots of interrelated problems here #southamerica | Nov 10 10:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Name of person in comments section "ruckfangers". I can guess where he lives. | Nov 10 10:01 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/9055/snapshot7i.png | Nov 10 10:06 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I give up | Nov 10 10:06 |
| DaemonFC | wanna take a stab at WHAT this is? | Nov 10 10:06 |
| DaemonFC | boo! | Nov 10 10:07 |
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| MinceR | interesting theme :> | Nov 10 10:13 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I tracked it down | Nov 10 10:19 |
| DaemonFC | it was x.org server 1.11.2 | Nov 10 10:19 |
| MinceR | 112947 <@MinceR> interesting theme :> | Nov 10 10:19 |
| DaemonFC | something about it disagrees with GTK | Nov 10 10:20 |
| DaemonFC | I reverted to 1.10.4 and the problem went away :) | Nov 10 10:20 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Who? Me? | Nov 10 10:20 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 10 10:20 |
| DaemonFC | I managed to version lock x.org server 1.10.4 | Nov 10 10:22 |
| DaemonFC | so that shouldn't happen again | Nov 10 10:22 |
| MinceR | the one on your screenshor | Nov 10 10:22 |
| DaemonFC | *sigh* | Nov 10 10:22 |
| MinceR | s/.$/t/ | Nov 10 10:22 |
| DaemonFC | Shadowed plasma theme | Nov 10 10:22 |
| DaemonFC | + Oxygen Platinum color scheme | Nov 10 10:23 |
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| DaemonFC | in the course of solving that problem, I brought in the latest Oxygen-GTK from a PPA | Nov 10 10:24 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 10 10:25 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/8962/snapshot8j.png | Nov 10 10:25 |
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| DaemonFC | + Lancelot + Yakuake | Nov 10 10:25 |
| DaemonFC | + Oxygen Panel skin for Yakuake | Nov 10 10:25 |
| DaemonFC | KFaenza icon pack | Nov 10 10:26 |
| DaemonFC | I find Yakuake is so much easier than fishing for Konsole | Nov 10 10:26 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 10 10:26 |
| DaemonFC | and Lancelot is so much easier to navigate than kickoff | Nov 10 10:27 |
| MinceR | i've bound Super+z to start an xfce terminal | Nov 10 10:27 |
| DaemonFC | All I need to do is hit F12 or bump my mouse cursor to the top of the screen | Nov 10 10:27 |
| DaemonFC | and the terminal scrolls down | Nov 10 10:27 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 10 10:27 |
| DaemonFC | there's a lot of neat KDE stuff out there | Nov 10 10:28 |
| MinceR | i also have a hotkey for each of my 18 workspaces | Nov 10 10:28 |
| DaemonFC | shame most of it is not default | Nov 10 10:28 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME is such a mess these days | Nov 10 10:29 |
| DaemonFC | Unity is not much better | Nov 10 10:29 |
| DaemonFC | it's a shame how the worst desktops are given the most attention | Nov 10 10:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RPX Corporation. This type of company should not be necessary. http://ur1.ca/5q6ey #swpats | Nov 10 10:32 | |
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| DaemonFC | The Microsoft people don't have to do anything worse to Linux than promote Unity and GNOME | Nov 10 10:32 |
| schestowitz | Hehe | Nov 10 10:36 |
| schestowitz | A gift of newbishness | Nov 10 10:36 |
| digitteknohippie | kde3 > kde4. gnome2 >gnome3. interesting pattern. i saw this earlier today, seemed like it might be interesting enough to check out gnome3 after all. http://www.muktware.com/news/2890 | Nov 10 10:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux Mint Reveals The Top Secret Project, To Overtake Ubuntu Soon | Muktware .::. Size~: 30.99 KB | Nov 10 10:40 |
| DaemonFC | http://my.opera.com/chooseopera/blog/2011/11/10/opera-11-60-beta-debuts-with-double-rainbow-support | Nov 10 10:42 |
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| DaemonFC | you can't compare KDE 4 to GNOME 3, you jsut can't | Nov 10 10:42 |
| DaemonFC | even KDE 4.0 was usable between crashes | Nov 10 10:42 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 10 10:42 |
| digitteknohippie | i can compare anything i want. | Nov 10 10:42 |
| digitteknohippie | oh, hehe, i see, that was a setup for your joke. | Nov 10 10:42 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.opera.com/browser/beta/ | Nov 10 10:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Opera web browser | Opera Next .::. Size~: 9.73 KB | Nov 10 10:43 |
| DaemonFC | yay | Nov 10 10:43 |
| DaemonFC | Beta | Nov 10 10:43 |
| digitteknohippie | i disagree though. kde wasnt useable between crashes. XD | Nov 10 10:43 |
| DaemonFC | I hate software that doesn't have Beta in the name | Nov 10 10:43 |
| DaemonFC | for some reason I'm just a glutton for punishment | Nov 10 10:43 |
| DaemonFC | tie me up and make me use your unfinished software oh evil one! | Nov 10 10:43 |
| digitteknohippie | lol, i've been bruising my forehead with spacebar shaped indents a few times from alpha software. :E | Nov 10 10:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] New Hire Orientation! | Nov 10 10:44 | |
| DaemonFC | well, this explains why Opera updated the build 1147 snapshot with build 1147 | Nov 10 10:44 |
| DaemonFC | the same build got tagged as the beta | Nov 10 10:44 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 10 10:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu, please stop trying to be Mac OSuX http://ur1.ca/5q6lc #ubuntu | Nov 10 10:47 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Muslim Guy Fawkes makes it Allah Allah Awesome | Nov 10 10:48 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Nov 10 10:48 |
| amarsh04 | further implications of Trans-Pacific Partnership agreement: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com.au/news/2011-11-09/artist-k-hachiya/copyright-law-changes-would-affect-cosplay | Nov 10 10:53 |
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| azalyn | unity launcher on left is still a fucking eyesore. | Nov 10 10:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Cliche alert "It just works" | Nov 10 10:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] how non-software patents too reduce consumer choice - http://bit.ly/u2hCka buckets of prior art USPTO ignored (v @steveloughran @ebarroca) | Nov 10 11:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] mobile fingerprinting device that also checks your sweat for drugs - http://bit.ly/tUe8Kg the police are gonna *love* this... | Nov 10 11:04 | |
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| schestowitz | http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/mobile-cloud-view/me-thinks-eric-schmidt-doth-protest-too-much/ | Nov 10 11:05 |
| schestowitz | meh | Nov 10 11:05 |
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| schestowitz | "That's not an official mockup is it? Just a user having fun with the gimp." http://joindiaspora.com/posts/778888 | Nov 10 11:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 10 11:06 |
| schestowitz | Regardless, Canonical draws inspiration from a platform which takes power over user. | Nov 10 11:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] Berlin court turns down AVMs claim to restrict third party modification of #GPL licensed code #fritzbox #avm #linux http://bit.ly/vhxgkh | Nov 10 11:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] Soon, there will be @libreoffice.org mail accounts for TDF members! http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/11/10/libreoffice-mail-accounts/ | Nov 10 11:11 | |
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| MinceR | 114629 < DaemonFC> it's a shame how the worst desktops are given the most attention | Nov 10 11:16 |
| MinceR | so it's just like the bigger picture | Nov 10 11:16 |
| MinceR | with winblows and macos getting the most attention among desktop OSes | Nov 10 11:17 |
| MinceR | and so on | Nov 10 11:17 |
| schestowitz | Linux Format lost its editor | Nov 10 11:19 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxformat.com/content/work-linux-format | Nov 10 11:19 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxformat.com/content/and-its-goodbye-him | Nov 10 11:19 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: And it's goodbye from him | Linux Format .::. Size~: 35.21 KB | Nov 10 11:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] [Phoronix] The Wayland Engineering Team At Intel http://goo.gl/eAHwU | Nov 10 11:20 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=oracle_solaris_11&num=1 | Nov 10 11:26 |
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| schestowitz | That fraud Chopra is on Faux | Nov 10 11:26 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l04Bjs_Rmvc&feature=digest_mon | Nov 10 11:26 |
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| schestowitz | Lies=good | Nov 10 11:26 |
| schestowitz | realists=bad | Nov 10 11:26 |
| digitteknohippie | chopra's not all bad. he does put some oinment in his flies. | Nov 10 11:29 |
| schestowitz | He deceived many people | Nov 10 11:33 |
| schestowitz | promoting ignorance is not commendable | Nov 10 11:33 |
| digitteknohippie | and egoism. | Nov 10 11:33 |
| schestowitz | So I've heard | Nov 10 11:35 |
| schestowitz | not seen his books | Nov 10 11:35 |
| schestowitz | egoism leads to some Norwegian dude playing God or people crashing jets into buildings | Nov 10 11:35 |
| DaemonFC | Chopra is not a fraud, schestowitz | Nov 10 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | he's a damned fraud and a fucking con artist | Nov 10 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 10 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | he's like a New Age Benny Hinn' | Nov 10 11:39 |
| DaemonFC | my grandmother got mad at me for calling Benny Hinn a crook | Nov 10 11:43 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 10 11:43 |
| DaemonFC | and that he'd be in prison if it wasn't for so many people like her believing in him unquestionably | Nov 10 11:44 |
| DaemonFC | the government doesn't get involved and shut these people down because they have so many mindless followers who would scream bloody murder if that happened | Nov 10 11:45 |
| digitteknohippie | i've a sort of motto... "everyone's a shill", and a sort of ethos nicely soundbited as "listen to all, believe none, learn from all."... so i say listen to the nutters. popular and lesser heard of. from ekhart tolle, to david icke, from ashayana dean to abraham (esther). it's certainly no worse than listening to mainstream news. ;) | Nov 10 11:45 |
| DaemonFC | Send me $100 and put your hand on the screen | Nov 10 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | say "I believe I'll be healed!" | Nov 10 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | "In Jesus Name!!!!" | Nov 10 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | I want to whack those people on the head and scream "OUT DEMON OF STUPIDITY!!!!" | Nov 10 11:47 |
| digitteknohippie | heh, yeah, never underestimate the power of belief+placebo | Nov 10 11:47 |
| schestowitz | "i never liked the standard gnome 2.x UI because of the doubled menu bar at the top when a window is maximized. so i don't think it's bad to "draw inspiration" from visual and UX concepts (and apple seems to be good at that), as long as what's below the surface stays free. i'm sure they are concentrating on casual users' experience first, that's why unity/gnome 3 are not yet as customizable, but better means for customization will | Nov 10 11:48 |
| schestowitz | surely come in the future. " | Nov 10 11:48 |
| schestowitz | http://joindiaspora.com/posts/778888 | Nov 10 11:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 10 11:48 |
| DaemonFC | People die on park benches of exposure | Nov 10 11:49 |
| DaemonFC | but Benny Hinn has a learjet because God said he's too good to fly coach :) | Nov 10 11:49 |
| schestowitz | "this isn't official and i really doubt it will go to that direction. besides - it more a step in the direction of gnome3 don't you think? The *background* can be changed easily :P " | Nov 10 11:49 |
| digitteknohippie | XD some folks seem to judge an app on it's vanilla state. i think that's like judging a book by it's cover. | Nov 10 11:50 |
| schestowitz | digitteknohippie: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/778245 "Or just a maximum differential percentage in wage between the lowest and highest in a company. Having an upper limit would encourage reinvestment of profits in more productive ways." | Nov 10 11:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 10 11:50 |
| digitteknohippie | speaking of nutters to listen to, and on the topic of earnings, Michael Tellinger's "Contributionism" is closest to my own ideas i've heard anyone else come up with | Nov 10 11:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "Patent War Between Companies Has Become an Industry" - http://ur1.ca/5q7sj | Nov 10 12:04 | |
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| digitteknohippie | k folks, without going that far, i wanna test out a couple ideas on you guys. 1, imagine you could track a trickle of income to all developers/projects, so there'd be financial recompense for contributions to free software, and 2, taking us halfway to a contributionist/moneyless system, imagine currency was created at the moment of transaction (since it's made from nothing anyway, +interest).... just some food for thought experiment. ;) | Nov 10 12:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] just about thought i had screwed up my local git repo with changes unpushed .. but some `git checkout`s saved the day and all my changes. | Nov 10 12:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] git is sometimes a very, very opaque beast. but it's remarkably reliable, if you can only decipher its inscrutable babbling. | Nov 10 12:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] trying #dban for the first time to prep my old PCs for charity donation pickup | Nov 10 12:29 | |
| DaemonFC | https://code.google.com/p/pidgin-knotifications/ | Nov 10 12:30 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: This may make Pidgin a lot more bearable on KDE | Nov 10 12:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Warner Bros issued takedowns for files they never saw, didn't own copyright to http://identi.ca/url/56578332 | Nov 10 12:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Please help translate this user manual into Arabic, Chinese & Spanish: https://www.transifex.net/projects/p/torproject/resource/1-tsum-pot/ | Nov 10 12:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Questions - Ask #Fedora: Community Knowledge Base and Support Forum - #gnulinux http://ur1.ca/57l1y | Nov 10 12:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Fake British WWII passport for Hitler http://identi.ca/url/56579800 | Nov 10 13:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] 75% of Honey sold is fake http://identi.ca/url/56579867 | Nov 10 13:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Occupation in October: beautiful, long-form OWS radio documentary by Alex Chadwick http://identi.ca/url/56543976 | Nov 10 13:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] on the bright side, with 71 passes of random gibberish data, it's gonna do what it says on the digital tin, wipe that sucker #dban | Nov 10 13:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] How to Disappear: Erase Your Digital Footprint, Leave False Trails, and Vanish without a Trace (9781599219776) #Books http://goo.gl/1QfIc | Nov 10 13:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Surveillance Countermeasures: A Serious Guide To Detecting, Evading, And Eluding Threats To Personal Privacy - #Books http://goo.gl/3QuxU | Nov 10 13:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Broke off a tooth less than an hour before leaving for #FSCONS. Hope folks on #GOT won't mind my lopsided grin. | Nov 10 13:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Forgot to take my stash of SEK with me to #FSCONS. Again. No bad thing perhaps, given the Euro's prospects. | Nov 10 13:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] This is important. A german court has decided that AVM (a manufacturer of DSL modems, routers, WLAN stuff) cannot impos... http://b1t.it/SIW | Nov 10 13:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] 'Mornin !identiverse !tzag | Nov 10 14:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @trashheap I wish the #Firefox Live webcam was done in #HTML5 http://ur1.ca/5qavo | Nov 10 14:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @zelaurent FounderFuel : neuf startups qui souhaitent « monétiser » l'internaute moderne http://ow.ly/7p2g7 | Nov 10 14:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I moved our session storage to memcached, which seems to have sped things up, but if a memcached server goes out, we lose your session. | Nov 10 14:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] That's not good. | Nov 10 14:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I think there might be a way to set it up to fall over to another server if the preferred one is down. I'll take a look. | Nov 10 14:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Cold War Bunker Becomes Modern Mansion - #cool #preppers #usa http://goo.gl/yve6e | Nov 10 14:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #ElHierro Volcano eruption: New Canary Island emerges as underwater volcano rises | Mail Online http://goo.gl/EbN2c | Nov 10 15:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Activist Post: #Gardasil Victims Take Legal Action Against #Merck Over Miscarriage, Deadly Reactions - #bigpharma http://goo.gl/5hBg2 | Nov 10 15:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @jwildeboer This is important. A german court has decided that AVM (a manufacturer of DSL modems, routers, WLAN stuff) cannot impos.. ... | Nov 10 15:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody how non-software patents too reduce consumer choice - http://bit.ly/u2hCka buckets of prior art USPTO ignored (v @stevelou ... | Nov 10 15:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody Greens say EU needs tougher import rules on feed crops - http://bit.ly/sE70We lots of interrelated problems here #southamerica | Nov 10 15:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody Barnes & Noble subpoenas Nokia over Microsoft Android lawsuit - http://bit.ly/ucappK gets even more interesting | Nov 10 15:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody SOPA – the Stop Online Piracy Act – Is It Really Dangerous? - http://bit.ly/ul4yce #mozilla's legal chap weighs in | Nov 10 15:34 | |
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| iophk | Regarding the B&N case: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/05/24/allchin_destroy_email_claim/ | Nov 10 15:41 |
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| iophk | Good luck in getting the evidene. | Nov 10 15:41 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Nov 10 15:46 |
| schestowitz | Good point | Nov 10 15:47 |
| schestowitz | iophk: I got some good posts today | Nov 10 15:47 |
| iophk | Excellent. | Nov 10 15:47 |
| schestowitz | managed to put aside some personal things at long last | Nov 10 15:47 |
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| schestowitz | iophk: actually I could perhaps use your help | Nov 10 15:47 |
| iophk | How | Nov 10 15:47 |
| schestowitz | see email | Nov 10 15:49 |
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| iophk | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1002705/microsoft-deliberately-destroyed-damaging-emails-claim | Nov 10 16:13 |
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| iophk | Records retention policy shorter than the time it takes to correctly route a retrieval request. | Nov 10 16:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Recensământul GNU/Linux http://ur1.ca/5qckf #gnu #linux #romania #software #microsoft #windows | Nov 10 16:17 | |
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| schestowitz | yeah, I wrote about that some years back | Nov 10 16:24 |
| schestowitz | Unless this is new | Nov 10 16:24 |
| schestowitz | Intel did the same | Nov 10 16:24 |
| schestowitz | Allegedly | Nov 10 16:24 |
| schestowitz | It bribed the system so there is no conviction | Nov 10 16:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Hmm, today !Fedora 16 is working fine so far. Then again, I'm using #Openbox right now. | Nov 10 16:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Wonderful. Both flash & more specifically m$' silverlight redundant in light of html5 -http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/mimssbits/27328/ | Nov 10 16:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] i did a preupgrade from f15->f16 and *everything* is working for me. awesome! yes, gnome3 is good to go! | Nov 10 16:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] I think something subtle may have gone wrong for me in preupgrade... I am planning on doing a fresh install. | Nov 10 16:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Listening to The Pogues "Should I Fall From Grace With God" 1st time in ages, very nice. #music. | Nov 10 16:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The % of Christians in Britain ranges from 18% to 76% depending on who you listen to. | Nov 10 16:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] note that the link is not an actual picture of 12.04, but what someone(who isnt at canonical) guessed what unity may look like. | Nov 10 16:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Without mobile, Adobe Flash is irrelevant http://ur1.ca/5qdey #adobe #flash #software #mobile | Nov 10 17:02 | |
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| iophk | The sooner Flash goes away, the better the web will be. | Nov 10 17:05 |
| schestowitz | linux disux sdistros esp. | Nov 10 17:05 |
| schestowitz | bah | Nov 10 17:05 |
| schestowitz | linux distros | Nov 10 17:05 |
| schestowitz | I was leaning when I wrote that | Nov 10 17:05 |
| schestowitz | it was one of those perils, like having to set up proprietary gpu blobs for graphics | Nov 10 17:05 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/85108352 | Nov 10 17:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @tekk's status on Thursday, 10-Nov-11 16:56:07 UTC - Identi.ca: note that the link is not an actual picture of 12.04, but what someone(who isnt at canonical) guessed what unity may look like. | Nov 10 17:07 |
| cubezzz | there's gnash | Nov 10 17:07 |
| cubezzz | adobe is all about control | Nov 10 17:07 |
| schestowitz | Adobe is all about Trash.. and PDFs | Nov 10 17:09 |
| schestowitz | Next post: "Removing Microsoft Mono From Debian" | Nov 10 17:09 |
| iophk | Any good news on the Debian front ? | Nov 10 17:11 |
| schestowitz | Many distros joined the OIN | Nov 10 17:12 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Words from an 86 year old http://identi.ca/url/56588674 | Nov 10 17:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] James Murdoch, "the first Mafia boss in history who didn't know he was running a criminal enterprise" http://identi.ca/url/56588710 | Nov 10 17:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Removing Microsoft Mono From Debian http://ur1.ca/5qdz4 #microsoft #debian | Nov 10 17:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Understanding McDonald's as a commodities broker with a restaurant sideline: the McRib http://identi.ca/url/56589058 | Nov 10 17:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Potash mining on the Colorado River http://identi.ca/url/56589137 | Nov 10 17:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] That *is* nice. Good idea, too. | Nov 10 17:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz Removing Microsoft Mono From Debian http://ur1.ca/5qdz4 #microsoft #debian | Nov 10 17:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I am looking up bbc radio creative commons #music | Nov 10 17:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] George Carlin addresses "business ethics" http://ur1.ca/5qecu #youtube | Nov 10 17:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] http://ur1.ca/5qecw #sip_and_click for the doc @jonkulp | Nov 10 17:49 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/85109586 | Nov 10 17:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 10-Nov-11 17:29:08 UTC - Identi.ca: Pogson: Has EDGI Been at Work? (Again) http://ur1.ca/5qdkq #edgi #foss | Nov 10 17:49 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ‘#Russia can prevent military operation against #Iran’ — RT #stateterrorism #usa #israel http://goo.gl/oFmke | Nov 10 17:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why The Internet of Things Will Be Open - http://bit.ly/rshPsX there is no alternative etc. #eclipse #ibm #openstandards | Nov 10 17:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] HTC and LG join the Open Invention Network - http://bit.ly/tEV8Zr but LG also signs up with the supertroll Intellectual Ventures: overkill? | Nov 10 17:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Shared a post "Mind. Blown. BAM" http://ur1.ca/5q994 | Nov 10 17:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Having a pizza delivered. (never done that before) | Nov 10 17:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] least that's relatively easy to fix, re-cc and they should get the backlog | Nov 10 17:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why The Internet of Things Will Be Open - Open Enterprise .::. Size~: 87.86 KB | Nov 10 17:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: HTC and LG join the Open Invention Network - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.04 KB | Nov 10 17:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Richard Bennett - Google+ - Mind. Blown. BAM .::. Size~: 50.24 KB | Nov 10 17:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Android dominates in Southeast Asia as smartphone sales leap 1,000% - http://tnw.co/uZjZqJ from low base, but still important | Nov 10 17:57 | |
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| schestowitz | "Arrgh!" http://joindiaspora.com/posts/781526 | Nov 10 18:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 10 18:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Interview with Michael Nielsen, author of Reinventing Discovery - http://bit.ly/rPxxhP mathematician & #openscience hero (v @McDawg) | Nov 10 18:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Senior British copper sacked for using on line dating service and saying he takes drugs. #plonker | Nov 10 18:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Interview with Michael Nielsen, author of Reinventing Discovery: The New Era of Networked Science : Confessions of a Science Librarian .::. Size~: 57.37 KB | Nov 10 18:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Mm, Silverlight, what's that smell? Yes, It's death • The Register http://bit.ly/s0RmrN | Nov 10 18:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] urra, esse Neymar do Gabão tá achando que é um etíope na São Silvestre! | Nov 10 18:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody Android dominates in Southeast Asia as smartphone sales leap 1,000% - http://tnw.co/uZjZqJ from low base, but still important | Nov 10 18:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Android tops Southeast Asian smartphone sales with 1,000% growth .::. Size~: 108.92 KB | Nov 10 18:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody HTC and LG join the Open Invention Network - http://bit.ly/tEV8Zr but LG also signs up with the supertroll Intellectual Ve ... | Nov 10 18:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody Why The Internet of Things Will Be Open - http://bit.ly/rshPsX there is no alternative etc. #eclipse #ibm #openstandards | Nov 10 18:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Ashton Kutcher quits Twitter after posting ill-informed opinion: http://gizmo.do/vPVe4b | Nov 10 18:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] AVM cannot prohibit modification of #GPL router #firmware - The H Open Source #floss http://goo.gl/ftdX5 | Nov 10 18:49 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/85111824 | Nov 10 18:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 10-Nov-11 18:29:56 UTC - Identi.ca: Apple’s Latest Attacks and Problems Clearly Show That Apple is Losing http://is.gd/gUyLKX #apple #swpats #android #linux | Nov 10 18:55 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/85110390 | Nov 10 18:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 10-Nov-11 17:49:18 UTC - Identi.ca: Patent Law Corrupted by Billionaires and Their Lobbyists http://ur1.ca/5qeec #lobbying #microsoft | Nov 10 18:56 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Yikes! The Digital Music Business Is Still Stuck in 2005 - http://dthin.gs/vqxvrW ringtones are definitely the future | Nov 10 18:57 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Digital Music Sales Still Dependent on Ringtones - Peter Kafka - Media - AllThingsD .::. Size~: 85.1 KB | Nov 10 18:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] As #Microsoft Extortion Continues, Submission Filed to the Department of Justice for Patent Abuse http://is.gd/pY0ntx #swpats #android | Nov 10 18:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The abusive monopolist and patent racketeer from Redmond (plus its proxies, e.g. IV and MOSAID) may come under federal http://ur1.ca/5qft2 | Nov 10 19:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ The abusive monopolist and patent racketeer from Redmond (plus its proxies, e.g. IV and MOSAID) may come under federal http://ur1. ... | Nov 10 19:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Adobe abandoning Flash Player for TVs as well http://identi.ca/url/56593237 | Nov 10 19:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Computer more accurate than human doctor at breast cancer diagnosis http://identi.ca/url/56593249 | Nov 10 19:19 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Adobe abandoning Flash Player for TVs as well -- Engadget .::. Size~: 64.1 KB | Nov 10 19:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Computer more accurate than human doctor at breast cancer diagnosis | ExtremeTech .::. Size~: 43.25 KB | Nov 10 19:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Cool this new Choqok, nice interface. | Nov 10 19:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is mfat with 57 dents! | Nov 10 19:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @hannesvdvreken er is verbetering op komst | Nov 10 19:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Die railtime app op android doet precies wel alles correct. RESTful API die authenticeert mbv #OAuth. Best onder de ... | Nov 10 19:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @nilsgeylen: Verward nu over #Railtime, #BETrains, #iRail... Chance dat ik geen trein nodig heb. | Nov 10 19:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Tanfoglio_ geen idee. Plots komen de requests wel door zie ik in de logs | Nov 10 19:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Tanfoglio_ blijkbaar al opgelost | Nov 10 19:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @jagij heel de ochtend online, en nu plots weer online. Vreemd. Heb een berichtje ingesproken op het an http://ur1. ... | Nov 10 19:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @ibbt: IBCN is looking for a Junior researcher to redesign their #opensource platform http://t.co/4fAAriy5 #job ... | Nov 10 19:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Aaand, @iRail unblocked? Weird things are happening here. | Nov 10 19:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Sigh. NMBS blocks @iRail. Too many requests. #slachtoffervanonseigensucces | Nov 10 19:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @stefroelandt http://t.co/irzE8q9B meer nieuws hier in de loop van namiddag | Nov 10 19:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !tzag google search coming in at number 3 http://ur1.ca/5qgb8 | Nov 10 19:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Berlusconi's imminent departure will leave him more time to spend with his court cases. | Nov 10 19:40 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=1CLjYHqfilE | Nov 10 19:41 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] As we both know laws are for the little people. | Nov 10 19:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Want to run a game company? Mob Rules is making the CC licensed, open source game of your choice. http://kck.st/mobrulesgames | Nov 10 19:47 | |
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| iophk1 | https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petition-tool/response/promoting-innovation-and-competitive-markets-through-quality-patents | Nov 10 19:59 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] #Firefox is far beyond being used exclusively by tech folk; a few years ago it became browser of choice in my child's public school system | Nov 10 20:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] About Spin: #KDE Plasma Desktop - #fedora16 http://ur1.ca/5qguc | Nov 10 20:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz As #Microsoft Extortion Continues, Submission Filed to the Department of Justice for Patent Abuse http://is.gd/pY0ntx #s ... | Nov 10 20:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #CNBC Cans Debate Poll Because Ron Paul Was Leading. - YouTube #ronpaul http://ur1.ca/5qgyo | Nov 10 20:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] CDU Escalates Plans For EU Treaty 'Adjustment': Wants Option For To Kick Habitually Broke Countries Out Of Eurozone | http://goo.gl/pkx4D | Nov 10 20:14 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: CDU Escalates Plans For EU Treaty 'Adjustment': Wants Option For To Kick Habitually Broke Countries Out Of Eurozone | ZeroHedge .::. Size~: 165.97 KB | Nov 10 20:14 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] from being a #Firefox advocate, I use #Chrome mostly now because of far too frequent upgrades breaking addons; they're destroying themselves | Nov 10 20:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Chrome upgrades, the addons upgrade, but users never see a "the version doesn't work on your version" message; they cracked it | Nov 10 20:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Guest Post: What "Average Joe" Really Thinks | ZeroHedge #poll http://goo.gl/9jQoS | Nov 10 20:20 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Guest Post: What "Average Joe" Really Thinks | ZeroHedge .::. Size~: 124.02 KB | Nov 10 20:20 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: Resent that email again...think its gone through...if you could check. | Nov 10 20:20 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: thanks mate :-) | Nov 10 20:24 |
| schestowitz | How's it going in general | Nov 10 20:24 |
| schestowitz | I can tell you've been super busy | Nov 10 20:24 |
| *Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). | Nov 10 20:34 | |
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| *Now talking on #techrights | Nov 10 20:34 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom | Nov 10 20:34 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Wed Sep 22 21:19:38 2010 | Nov 10 20:34 | |
| -NickServ-You are now identified for schestowitz. | Nov 10 20:34 | |
| -MemoServ-You have 1 new memo. | Nov 10 20:34 | |
| -MemoServ-To read them, type /msg MemoServ READ NEW | Nov 10 20:34 | |
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| schestowitz | "Bravo!" http://joindiaspora.com/posts/782049 | Nov 10 20:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 10 20:37 |
| schestowitz | :_Goblin!~goblin@94-193-188-104.zone7.bethere.co.uk PRIVMSG #techrights :yeah | Nov 10 20:38 |
| schestowitz | :_Goblin!~goblin@94-193-188-104.zone7.bethere.co.uk PRIVMSG #techrights :very | Nov 10 20:38 |
| schestowitz | I lost my line there for a few minutes... | Nov 10 20:38 |
| _Goblin | ah... | Nov 10 20:46 |
| *ChanServ gives channel operator status to _Goblin | Nov 10 20:47 | |
| schestowitz | Good thing I got fallbacjks | Nov 10 20:47 |
| schestowitz | As I thought you had ignored me or not seen my message :-) | Nov 10 20:47 |
| schestowitz | Today I caught up with some posts | Nov 10 20:47 |
| _Goblin | Ive had little time for much | Nov 10 20:47 |
| _Goblin | :( | Nov 10 20:47 |
| schestowitz | made 5 new posts, almost none (just links) yesterday and the day before | Nov 10 20:47 |
| _Goblin | off now though for 3 days | Nov 10 20:47 |
| schestowitz | excellent! | Nov 10 20:47 |
| schestowitz | BTW: | Nov 10 20:48 |
| schestowitz | some good news for me | Nov 10 20:48 |
| _Goblin | ? | Nov 10 20:48 |
| schestowitz | someone close got promoted to store manager | Nov 10 20:48 |
| schestowitz | and I think I got several new contracts in 2 jobs :-) | Nov 10 20:48 |
| _Goblin | excellent! | Nov 10 20:48 |
| schestowitz | suprising timing | Nov 10 20:48 |
| _Goblin | :) | Nov 10 20:49 |
| schestowitz | I could tell me, but trolls lurk | Nov 10 20:49 |
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| schestowitz | How's your family? All good? | Nov 10 20:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Any sufficiently advanced !GNU #Linux distribution is indistinguishable from magic. | Nov 10 20:49 | |
| schestowitz | No BT disconnections | Nov 10 20:49 |
| schestowitz | No kids playing with hired | Nov 10 20:49 |
| schestowitz | So it's past bedtime | Nov 10 20:49 |
| schestowitz | *wires I meant | Nov 10 20:50 |
| _Goblin | Yeah....everythings good here.... | Nov 10 20:51 |
| _Goblin | hopefully get to some posting over the next few days..... | Nov 10 20:51 |
| _Goblin | want to get a little in about Microsoft and its "cheap" PC's.... | Nov 10 20:51 |
| _Goblin | "they'll get sort of addicted and we'll work out how to make a return in 10 years"........ | Nov 10 20:52 |
| _Goblin | Microsoft helps the poor with "cheap" PC's...... all praise Microsoft!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | Nov 10 20:52 |
| schestowitz | hehe | Nov 10 20:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Need Linux Skills? 12 Places to Learn Online http://ur1.ca/5qhmp #linux | Nov 10 20:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] To be fair the only actual issues I was (?) having with #Fedora 16 had to do with various #IMAP clients using #TLS #fail'ing. No idea why. | Nov 10 20:54 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Need Linux Skills? 12 Places to Learn Online | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 80.68 KB | Nov 10 20:54 |
| schestowitz | hmm... a friend's car has just been broken into | Nov 10 20:57 |
| schestowitz | explains why he didn't manage to come here today :-( | Nov 10 20:58 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/85114547 http://identi.ca/notice/85114549 http://identi.ca/notice/85114551 http://identi.ca/notice/85114552 | Nov 10 20:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 10-Nov-11 19:44:13 UTC - Identi.ca: Court deals with modifications of #GPL software http://ur1.ca/5qghq #gnu | Nov 10 20:58 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 10-Nov-11 19:44:14 UTC - Identi.ca: Speculum, new video by Phil Hellenes http://ur1.ca/5qght | Nov 10 20:58 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 10-Nov-11 19:44:15 UTC - Identi.ca: The police will crush students so that we all feel a helluva lot safer. :-) #WaronStudents | Nov 10 20:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 10-Nov-11 19:44:17 UTC - Identi.ca: Why is the police aiming rifles at the head of unarmed female student lying on the floor? http://ur1.ca/5qghu | Nov 10 20:58 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] had weird right / left click + select all issues in #GPodder; fixed by exporting feeds, create new profile + import feeds - back to normal | Nov 10 20:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Daily Bell - #CNN Defends the Fed – Calls Ron Paul Economically Illiterate - #nwomedia #bankingsystem http://goo.gl/dI58O | Nov 10 21:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @evan http://ur1.ca/5qhz9 Seeking international system adminstrators | Nov 10 21:12 | |
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| schestowitz | _Goblin must be playing PS3 again | Nov 10 21:18 |
| schestowitz | shootout relaxation | Nov 10 21:18 |
| schestowitz | penalty_FMM_erro | Nov 10 21:31 |
| schestowitz | https://plus.google.com/104707914502304652469/posts/CMe2ahbC4v1 | Nov 10 21:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: rikhard fsoss - Google+ - Removing #Microsoft #Mono From #Debian | Techrights… .::. Size~: 47.61 KB | Nov 10 21:31 |
| schestowitz | oops | Nov 10 21:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Archimedes didn't he discover Radox? | Nov 10 21:35 | |
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| _Goblin | schestowitz: Wrong! | Nov 10 21:39 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: was trying to get on PS3......failing miserably....wife wants to watch Border Force | Nov 10 21:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE YOU ESS DOLLARS! | Nov 10 21:40 |
| _Goblin | They don't mess about those Australians | Nov 10 21:40 |
| MinceR | YOU ASS! dollars? | Nov 10 21:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: US. | Nov 10 21:41 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 10 21:41 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The emergence of social music playlists for events (Wired): http://bit.ly/uEVQ97 | Nov 10 21:55 | |
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| _Goblin | Hey....an excellent site for a giggle.... | Nov 10 22:03 |
| _Goblin | DontEvenReply.com | Nov 10 22:03 |
| _Goblin | the guy is a legend! | Nov 10 22:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Yes, it will be possible. Not a priority right now; lots of other things going on. They'll be recovered, though. | Nov 10 22:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Library associations come out against Internet #blacklist bill https://eff.org/r.3Gb (PDF) | Nov 10 22:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] That's unusual. | Nov 10 22:20 | |
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| MinceR | gn | Nov 10 22:22 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @eff Library associations come out against Internet #blacklist bill https://eff.org/r.3Gb (PDF) | Nov 10 22:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Viacom Says That By Letting People View Videos On Phones, YouTube Loses #DMCA Safe Harbors - http://bit.ly/uq5Inf spectacularly clueless | Nov 10 22:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] of Wikileaks, twitter and a judge ur1.ca/5qjgr | Nov 10 22:34 | |
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| schestowitz | "Bravo! Mono and Moonlight were a waste of developer talent in my opinion. [Miguel](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_de_Icaza) was wrong to get involved with Microsoft. Moonlight without PlayReady DRM modules seems to be completely useless. " | Nov 10 22:49 |
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| schestowitz | http://joindiaspora.com/posts/781373 | Nov 10 22:49 |
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| schestowitz | "useless" is a metapackage for mono :-) | Nov 10 22:54 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] TIME on the Internet #Blacklist Bill: Cure is worse than the disease, would create a virtually broken Internet. https://eff.org/r.G8d | Nov 10 23:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Congress’s Piracy Blacklist Plan: A Cure Worse than the Disease? | Techland | TIME.com .::. Size~: 65.82 KB | Nov 10 23:00 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] Amazing coalition forms to fight blacklist bill - American Censorship Day: 11/16 http://ur1.ca/5qk5a !fsf !gnu | Nov 10 23:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Viacom - Complete douchebags ! http://ur1.ca/5qk7b... http://b1t.it/SZ5 | Nov 10 23:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open-source Proponents Blast Proprietary Software in Dutch Schools http://is.gd/T4Ldez #nl #foss | Nov 10 23:34 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Open-source Proponents Blast Proprietary Software in Dutch Schools | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 73.34 KB | Nov 10 23:34 |
| schestowitz | "I'd like to see it succeed, too. Would be even cooler if they made it into a full-fledged, easy-to-admin software bundle, so that you can install it on "had it lying around"-class hardware. Anyways, this looks like the perfect living environment for a personal #Diaspora pod :) " | Nov 10 23:41 |
| schestowitz | http://joindiaspora.com/posts/764712 | Nov 10 23:41 |
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| schestowitz | "The netherlands do have such a thing, but only for people working in publicly funded places. The rule states that they may not earn more than the head of the gouvernment (Minister-president). It is called "Balkenende-Norm", after its inventor, former minister-president Jan Pieter Balkenende, who headed center-conservative gouvernments from 2005-2010. It is not a "hard" ceiling, but states rather that the salaries of the managers have | Nov 10 23:41 |
| schestowitz | to be made public. http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkenendenorm " | Nov 10 23:41 |
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| schestowitz | http://joindiaspora.com/posts/778245 | Nov 10 23:41 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.muktware.com/news/2918 | Nov 10 23:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Adobe Flash Found Dead. Apple, Steve Jobs Prime Suspect | Muktware .::. Size~: 30.48 KB | Nov 10 23:45 |
| schestowitz | Clever headline | Nov 10 23:45 |
| schestowitz | But why give credit to him? | Nov 10 23:45 |
| schestowitz | Flash failed because it failed | Nov 10 23:45 |
| schestowitz | "In capitalist America, BANK robs YOU! " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/748020 | Nov 10 23:46 |
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