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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz Open-source Proponents Blast Proprietary Software in Dutch Schools http://is.gd/T4Ldez #nl #fossNov 11 00:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open-source Proponents Blast Proprietary Software in Dutch Schools | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 73.34 KBNov 11 00:00
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/85121561 http://identi.ca/notice/85121564 http://identi.ca/notice/85121566 http://identi.ca/notice/85122207  http://identi.ca/notice/85122430Nov 11 00:02
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 10-Nov-11 23:15:45 UTC - Identi.ca: #Fedora 16 GNOME: New and Stable  http://ur1.ca/5qkbx #redhatNov 11 00:02
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TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 10-Nov-11 23:15:48 UTC - Identi.ca: Celebrating 7 years of Firefox with the newest (and cutest) Mozillians! http://is.gd/c8RhbW #mozillaNov 11 00:02
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TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 10-Nov-11 23:15:52 UTC - Identi.ca: Heading Uptown to See Fedora Linux – A Tale of Science, Secret Agents and Corporate Warhttp://is.gd/cjnrjP #fedoraNov 11 00:02
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Heading Uptown to See Fedora Linux – A Tale of Science, Secret Agents and Corporate War | mark rushing's writey things .::. Size~: 39.85 KBNov 11 00:02
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 10-Nov-11 23:37:07 UTC - Identi.ca: New Tou r of #Kubuntu 11.10 http://ur1.ca/5qkn9 #kdeNov 11 00:02
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TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 10-Nov-11 23:44:00 UTC - Identi.ca: The New Laptop Experiment: The first 15 days http://ur1.ca/5qkr0... http://b1t.it/S1vNov 11 00:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Trusted Computing Group's TPM.Next looking at virtualization support. Hmm. #jtc1Nov 11 00:09
schestowitzMicrosoft lobbyists speaks out for monopoly abuse: http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011/04/barnes-nobles-answer-to-microsofts.htmlNov 11 00:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FOSS Patents: Barnes & Noble's answer to Microsoft's complaint raises more questions than it answers .::. Size~: 76.82 KBNov 11 00:09
schestowitzWhat a turdNov 11 00:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @fsf Amazing coalition forms to fight blacklist bill - American Censorship Day: 11/16 http://ur1.ca/5qk5a !fsf !gnuNov 11 00:10
schestowitzAnd pating Apple as a Google victim http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/134602110619746305Nov 11 00:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: American Censorship Day .::. Size~: 8.91 KBNov 11 00:10
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: RT @ElReg Is Apple nobbling iPhones to avoid more patent misery?: Android-like autocorrect hidden in iOS 5 http://t.co/ttae7iYrNov 11 00:10
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schestowitzWhat a liarNov 11 00:10
schestowitzSpinning Google as the aggressorNov 11 00:11
schestowitzAnd Microsoft as the good guyNov 11 00:11
schestowitzWhile Microsoft pays himNov 11 00:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Great stuff +Bilal Akhtar http://ur1.ca/5qlb1Nov 11 00:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bilal Akhtar - Google+ - Thank you +Jason DeRose for the interview! .::. Size~: 45.35 KBNov 11 00:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Open-source Proponents Blast Proprietary Software in Dutch Schools http://ur1.ca/5qlcb #gnu #linux #school #europe #softwareNov 11 00:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Cost of the #Iraq War -- Puppet Masters -- Sott.net #usa #stateterrorism #mic http://goo.gl/AqzhiNov 11 00:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open-source Proponents Blast Proprietary Software in Dutch Schools | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 73.34 KBNov 11 00:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Cost of the Iraq War -- Puppet Masters -- Sott.net .::. Size~: 45.93 KBNov 11 00:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Ron Paul's Honesty Is Courageous. It's Also Electoral Poison. - #ronpaul #bankingsystem #endfed http://goo.gl/GX3m2Nov 11 00:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @harishpillay OVF on it's way to be an ISO standard? Interesting. #jtc #dmtfNov 11 00:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] MAFIAAFire Redirector :: Add-ons for #Firefox - #MAFIAA #addon http://ur1.ca/5qlqbNov 11 00:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MAFIAAFire Redirector :: Add-ons for Firefox .::. Size~: 40.64 KBNov 11 00:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] MAFIAAFire Redirector :: Add-ons for #Firefox - #MAFIAA #addon #freedomtools http://ur1.ca/5qlqbNov 11 00:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I wonder if Gluster should participate in the SNIA. #jtc1Nov 11 00:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 11/11/2011: Fedora 16 Reviews, Desura Linux Client http://ur1.ca/5qm19 #techrightsNov 11 00:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] iTWire - Critical Infrastructure exploitable vulnerability will not be patched - #Proprietarysoftware http://goo.gl/oz0lTNov 11 01:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Good stuff! http://ur1.ca/5qdyxNov 11 01:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] ACLU press release on WikiLeaks Twitter/espionage case http://t.co/fnZFXHF2Nov 11 01:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] The CC Affiliate Network has 100+ volunteers working in over 70 jurisdictions. Let's do more! http://creativecommons.net/donateNov 11 01:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] EMERGENCY ALERT SYSTEM TEST FAILS - #usa #eas http://goo.gl/Wm42ONov 11 01:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] BBC News - #ARM's new GPU chip design aims to boost mobile graphics - #hardware http://goo.gl/lji5tNov 11 01:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Donate to Creative Commons | Creative Commons .::. Size~: 37.05 KBNov 11 01:17
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/782059Nov 11 01:24
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schestowitz"Nov 11 01:24
schestowitzExcept, it's a game for all ages. Those blue gloves terrified my two year old girl on the way home from her open heart surgery in Boston. The TSA insisted on patting down her diapers. Our trip made tyranny personal for me many ways.Nov 11 01:24
schestowitzhttp://173.17.111.185/photo_album/chron/2008/2008_04_07-marie_ASD_boston/Nov 11 01:24
schestowitzAs time passes, what happened and what I saw there upsets me more.Nov 11 01:24
schestowitz"Nov 11 01:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Feds Can Get Twitter Users' Data Without Warrant, Judge Says http://t.co/OIwa73La stop it! http://t.co/cFIdfbcWNov 11 01:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @fontana Any sufficiently advanced !GNU #Linux distribution is indistinguishable from magic.Nov 11 01:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] EUROPLANET OUTREACH - EPSC-DPS2011/04: Spinning hourglass object ...discovered in Kuiper belt - #scitek http://goo.gl/oouoqNov 11 01:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] One would wish that were true.Nov 11 01:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] cryptogon.com » Rumor Claims Sandusky “Pimped Out” Boys to Rich Donors - #elite #criminals #xfiles http://goo.gl/XllG4Nov 11 01:40
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schestowitzHey DaemonFCNov 11 01:51
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DaemonFChttp://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Microsoft-patch-day-fixes-critical-bug-in-TCP-IP-stack-1375511.htmlNov 11 01:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft patch day fixes critical bug in TCP/IP stack - The H Security: News and Features .::. Size~: 43.43 KBNov 11 01:51
DaemonFChttp://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Operation-Ghost-Click-FBI-busts-DNSChanger-botnet-1376746.htmlNov 11 01:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Operation Ghost Click: FBI busts DNSChanger botnet - The H Security: News and Features .::. Size~: 44.55 KBNov 11 01:51
DaemonFCbuy one get one free this monthNov 11 01:51
schestowitzHeheNov 11 01:52
schestowitzWell, I don't quite cover those anymore, there's an abundance of themNov 11 01:52
schestowitzIf Microsoft for its *** together, maybe *then* i'll be newsNov 11 01:52
DaemonFCThe malware infected 4 million computers globallyNov 11 01:52
schestowitzI need to research some Gates fundamentalists tonightNov 11 01:52
DaemonFCand the malicious ips associated with the fake DNS servers will now be operated by the FBI, silentlyNov 11 01:53
DaemonFCinstead of giving the victims a warning page that their DNS has been compromisedNov 11 01:53
DaemonFC:)Nov 11 01:53
DaemonFCthat's nice, so the FBI has direct access to the lists of every website those 4 million people access as soon as they type it inNov 11 01:54
DaemonFCthey claim the "grace period" is 4 months, but I wouldn't be surprised if they keep them running as long as they canNov 11 01:54
DaemonFCsince it gives them another back door into WindowsNov 11 01:54
DaemonFCand another way around the Fourth Amendment by claiming that it's a "service", instead of malicious DNS now operated by the FBINov 11 01:55
DaemonFCin other news, Flash player has been updated for the billionth security problem this yearNov 11 01:56
DaemonFCFlash apparently has a security model which is so secure that there are at least 4-5 new zero day exploits for it every monthNov 11 01:56
DaemonFC"Microsoft's implementation of the TCP/IP protocol stack for Windows contains a critical bug which can be remotely exploited to inject and execute code. This is something of a surprise given how closely the code has previously been scrutinised."Nov 11 01:58
DaemonFCthey claim to have anywayNov 11 01:58
DaemonFCthere's no way for the user to verify thatNov 11 01:58
DaemonFC"The bulletin does not list the Windows firewall as a potential mitigating factor, strongly suggesting that the bug occurs despite – or even because of – the Windows firewall."Nov 11 01:58
DaemonFCWindows Firewall?Nov 11 01:58
DaemonFCsomething that allows programs to whitelist themselves  or any inbound or outbound port traffic without notifying the user is not a firewallNov 11 01:59
DaemonFCit's a practical jokeNov 11 01:59
DaemonFC"An unpatched system would be protected from exploitation of this vulnerability by an external firewall which does not forward such packets to the local network. Company networks and home computers which are behind a hardware router with firewall functionality are therefore unlikely to be vulnerable to attack. "Nov 11 02:00
DaemonFCMost of these routers run Linux-based, or Wind River Systems VXWorks unix-like os firmware, and have a real iptables firewallNov 11 02:01
DaemonFCwhich sometimes shields Windows from its own vulnerabilitiesNov 11 02:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] … or my better clients. My less tech-literate clients react to my work, in Bill Hicks' words, "like a dog that's been shown a card trick."Nov 11 02:02
DaemonFC"The third bug only occurs if Active Directory is deployed with SSL-encrypted LDAP"Nov 11 02:02
DaemonFCEnabling security features in Active Directory makes you less safeNov 11 02:02
DaemonFCI'm shockedNov 11 02:02
DaemonFC"Finally, Microsoft has also released an update for a kernel driver bug triggered by TrueType fonts which can crash Windows 7 and Server 2008."Nov 11 02:03
DaemonFC:)Nov 11 02:03
DaemonFCMost, secure ever...... Load a document with true type fonts = crashNov 11 02:03
DaemonFCthis is like, Windows 98 and concon all over againNov 11 02:03
DaemonFCMicrosoft also still does not cooperate with the Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures system, and the only way Windows security issues get a CVE is if they are reported from outside of Microsoft or the CVE project creates one themselvesNov 11 02:05
DaemonFCthis means fewer Microsoft vulnerabilities are explained to the public in neutral terms not approved by Microsoft themselvesNov 11 02:05
DaemonFCCVE and MS Security Bulletins only account for part of the vulnerabilities in Microsoft software, the ones they couldn't hide from the public and silently patch with no public explanationNov 11 02:07
DaemonFCso put those together, and you probably only know half of what is going on in regards to Microsoft vulnerabilitiesNov 11 02:07
DaemonFChttp://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Android-device-maker-calls-on-US-DOJ-to-investigate-Microsoft-1375678.htmlNov 11 02:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Android device maker calls on US DOJ to investigate Microsoft - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.62 KBNov 11 02:08
DaemonFCAfter carrying water for Microsoft's Corrupt BIOS program, Foxconn finds itself rewarded by being on the wrong side of the Microsoft vs. Barnes And Noble Nook Android lawsuitNov 11 02:09
DaemonFC:)Nov 11 02:09
DaemonFCcooperate and we'll save you for lastNov 11 02:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Join us! Use your website to protest the #blacklist bills on 11/16: https://eff.org/r.2Ge #USACensoredNov 11 02:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: American Censorship Day is this Wednesday — And You Can Join In! | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 26.86 KBNov 11 02:10
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schestowitzAndroid licensing, by Microsoft...Nov 11 02:23
schestowitzGet your Android licensed.... by BallmerNov 11 02:23
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DaemonFChttps://daemonfc.wordpress.com/2011/11/11/microsoft-vulnerabilities-microsoft-patent-lawsuits-and-more/Nov 11 02:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft vulnerabilities, Microsoft patent lawsuits, and more. « daemonfc .::. Size~: 44.57 KBNov 11 02:25
schestowitzwhat happened to the prince somethint blog?Nov 11 02:27
schestowitzDid you back it up at least?Nov 11 02:27
DaemonFCnoNov 11 02:28
schestowitzWhat a shameNov 11 02:31
schestowitzAll this work in vain?Nov 11 02:31
DaemonFC"On the other hand, I guess Port Nuking is back. So much for Windows 7 being more secure than Windows 95. This time they even tell you Windows has a Firewall. Nothing like being wined and dined before you get fucked I guess."Nov 11 02:31
schestowitzI will link to the above later onNov 11 02:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] "I don't know what you are doing, but I still didn't receive my dogfood." ?Nov 11 02:35
DaemonFCThey don't need the Corrupt PC BIOS Initiative now, they can just tell board makers that allow other operating systems that they can't be Windows certifiedNov 11 02:40
schestowitzhappy 11/11/11 everyoneNov 11 02:41
schestowitzI will be asleep at 11:11 and 11 secondsNov 11 02:42
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schestowitzI'm gonna stay up on the computer until 9am (covering up for colleague on holiday)... should be able to get ready again tomorrow afternoon.Nov 11 02:43
DaemonFC11/11/11 will be deleted in 26 hours and 16 minutesNov 11 02:44
DaemonFCdeleteNov 11 02:44
DaemonFCdeleteNov 11 02:44
DaemonFCdeleeeeete!Nov 11 02:44
DaemonFCB-)Nov 11 02:44
XFaCEhttp://www.americancensorship.org/Nov 11 02:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: American Censorship Day .::. Size~: 9.15 KBNov 11 02:45
XFaCEschestowitz: I assume you will get involved in thisNov 11 02:46
XFaCEDaemonFC: Err what?Nov 11 02:46
DaemonFCXFaCE: The CybermenNov 11 02:46
DaemonFC:)Nov 11 02:46
schestowitzXFaCE: I'm not AmericanNov 11 02:46
XFaCEI'm not familiar enough with Doctor Who to know the reference.Nov 11 02:46
XFaCEschestowitz: But a lot of your readers areNov 11 02:47
schestowitzAnd it addresses the wrong peopleNov 11 02:47
schestowitzLike many such campaigns failed befoireNov 11 02:47
XFaCEschestowitz: Hmm.Nov 11 02:47
schestowitzThe government is punished if rich criminals stop investing in campaignsNov 11 02:47
*DaemonFC bestows honorary citizenship on schestowitzNov 11 02:47
DaemonFC:DNov 11 02:47
schestowitzNot if the public is angryNov 11 02:47
XFaCEschestowitz: The problem is is that this is a US bill that pretty much fucks the rest of the world.Nov 11 02:47
schestowitzthey already censor the NetNov 11 02:48
schestowitzand here tooNov 11 02:48
*XFaCE bestows honoUrary citizenship on schestowitzNov 11 02:48
schestowitzto protect' usNov 11 02:48
schestowitzSuppressive regime under any other nameNov 11 02:48
schestowitzI would rather use that day to name the corrupt people who fund people who pass this billNov 11 02:48
XFaCEschestowitz: Will you put Techrights in a more censor-proof medium?Nov 11 02:48
DaemonFCI like what Rick Mercer said about combining the US and Canadian economies. That they'd (sarcasm) be fools not to attach their healthy economy based on tons of natural resources to the worst performing economy in the world for 5 years running with an unfunded pension system and massive external debtNov 11 02:49
schestowitzHiding from people information about crimes like EDGI does not help the causeNov 11 02:49
DaemonFC:)Nov 11 02:49
XFaCEschestowitz: In addition to the current way.Nov 11 02:49
XFaCEI'm not suggesting hiding, more of a contigenc.Nov 11 02:49
schestowitzXFaCE: Toby already offered to make a .ca mirrorNov 11 02:49
schestowitzand Wayne did as wellNov 11 02:49
XFaCEschestowitz: You didn't accept?Nov 11 02:49
schestowitzno, wasn't a need at the timeNov 11 02:50
schestowitzand the server is in the USNov 11 02:50
XFaCEis it now?Nov 11 02:50
XFaCEschestowitz: The .ca server?Nov 11 02:50
schestowitzI could buy those domains and assign them to the nameserverNov 11 02:50
schestowitzBut that would only bypass DNS-based censorshipNov 11 02:50
schestowitzNot IP basedNov 11 02:50
XFaCEOpenNIC...Nov 11 02:50
XFaCE<.<Nov 11 02:50
XFaCE>.>Nov 11 02:50
schestowitzunless we set up a proxy serverNov 11 02:51
XFaCEahNov 11 02:51
XFaCEp2p techrightsNov 11 02:51
schestowitzin which case you hope the proxy does not get blocked, too, by the USNov 11 02:51
XFaCEmultiple computer eevery wayNov 11 02:51
XFaCE*whereNov 11 02:51
schestowitzwe've SFWNov 11 02:51
schestowitzNo risk of blockingNov 11 02:51
XFaCEDaemonFC: Lol, indeedNov 11 02:51
XFaCE!google sfwNov 11 02:51
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - S.F.W. (1994) - IMDb | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0111048/Nov 11 02:51
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Urban Dictionary: sfw | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php%3Fterm%3DsfwNov 11 02:51
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - S.F.W. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.F.W.Nov 11 02:51
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Shoppers Food Warehouse | http://www.shoppersfood.com/Nov 11 02:51
XFaCEschestowitz: Pardon?Nov 11 02:52
schestowitzsafe for workNov 11 02:52
XFaCESFW?Nov 11 02:52
XFaCEahNov 11 02:52
schestowitzyeahNov 11 02:52
schestowitzno nipples in our siteNov 11 02:52
schestowitzexcept man nipples, maybeNov 11 02:52
XFaCEschestowitz: Well, remember what Diablo-D3 did that timeNov 11 02:52
XFaCE...Nov 11 02:52
XFaCEThe BSD nipplesNov 11 02:53
schestowitzThose were linkedNov 11 02:53
schestowitzNot hostedNov 11 02:53
XFaCEAh, but linking could be a crime nowNov 11 02:53
XFaCE...Nov 11 02:53
schestowitzIt's the closest Diablo-D3 gets to seeing women's breastsNov 11 02:53
XFaCEschestowitz: harshNov 11 02:53
DaemonFCI see Skyrim is still targeting XPNov 11 02:53
DaemonFCgood news for Wine users who want to play it soonish I supposeNov 11 02:53
DaemonFCthe fact that they've done such great work in the confines of DirectX 9 is a testament to the developersNov 11 02:54
XFaCEschestowitz: I understand why this site wouldn't be targeted by the thought-police.  At the same time, as a pro-digital-freedom site, I think we should consider helping less tech-savvy people bypass the filters around them, and a demonstration would create a nice visual picture.Nov 11 02:55
XFaCEschestowitz: Also on that note, I continue to note the lack of copyright news on the site, but I understand you are swamped as it is.  Your article turnaround is incredible, but you aren't superman.Nov 11 02:56
XFaCEIt would be nice if Twitter/whoever-else-is-in-the-Guest-Ed-team could pair up with meNov 11 02:57
XFaCEIt would be much fasterNov 11 02:57
XFaCE!google skyrimNov 11 02:57
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim | http://www.elderscrolls.com/Nov 11 02:57
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_V:_SkyrimNov 11 02:57
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Review: Boundless Skyrim Will Become Your Life | Game|Life ... | http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2011/11/skyrim-review/Nov 11 02:57
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - Reddit | http://www.reddit.com/r/skyrim/Nov 11 02:57
schestowitzYou can make news postsNov 11 02:57
schestowitzEven now you canNov 11 02:57
schestowitzabout the censorship thingNov 11 02:57
XFaCEschestowitz: But it takes me a long time. Unrealistic perfectionism.Nov 11 02:58
XFaCEon my partNov 11 02:58
schestowitzAh, then you only have yourself to blame :-)Nov 11 02:59
XFaCEschestowitz: yepNov 11 02:59
XFaCEschestowitz: The cooperation thing is a request, not finger-pointing. :)Nov 11 02:59
schestowitzI used to be the same in the early days that I was publishingNov 11 02:59
schestowitzAfter w while I thought, /"sod it, it ain't fun reraading my workdsNov 11 03:00
XFaCEI think ole twitter and I would make a great teamNov 11 03:00
schestowitzIn IRC it's the most typo riddenNov 11 03:00
schestowitzMore so than in EMailNov 11 03:00
XFaCEwell, IRC isn't the pinnacle of journalism excellenceNov 11 03:00
XFaCEhey msb_, I.H.U is completely deccentralized right?Nov 11 03:01
XFaCEschestowitz: DaemonFC and I, that would be a hootNov 11 03:01
XFaCESarcasm meets... uh me.Nov 11 03:02
XFaCEschestowitz: DaemonFC Diablo-D3 msb__ Think you may find this quite interestingNov 11 03:02
XFaCEhttp://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Torrentfreak/~3/sULqL4Gc3qQ/Nov 11 03:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Pirate Bay Trademark Handed To Alcohol Entrepreneur | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 28.1 KBNov 11 03:02
XFaCEToo bad it's rum, I don't really like rum muchNov 11 03:03
schestowitzrumuch?Nov 11 03:03
XFaCElolNov 11 03:03
XFaCEBeer or wine, that would be awesomeNov 11 03:03
schestowitzBineNov 11 03:04
schestowitzor weerNov 11 03:04
XFaCEDaemonFC: Keep updating your blog.  I like your completely biased sarcastic style.Nov 11 03:04
XFaCE:)Nov 11 03:04
XFaCEschestowitz: Are you a little liquored up yourself?Nov 11 03:05
schestowitzNo, loads of coffeeNov 11 03:05
schestowitzMust stay up, can't drink todayNov 11 03:05
XFaCEschestowitz: You should try tea instead, more natural and healthyNov 11 03:05
XFaCETetley Bold works well for caffiene attacksNov 11 03:06
Brendan_Tgreen tea makes one live longer.Nov 11 03:08
XFaCEBrendan_T: Love green teaNov 11 03:09
XFaCEI also have this blueberry one (non-caffinated) that's great tooNov 11 03:09
XFaCETea is awesomeNov 11 03:09
XFaCEEasier to make than coffeeNov 11 03:09
DaemonFC"DirectX 11 enhanced" simply means it looks 5% better and cuts the framerate by half if you enable itNov 11 03:09
DaemonFCwhat a jokeNov 11 03:09
XFaCEschestowitz: Tea is the only way to goNov 11 03:09
XFaCEDaemonFC: Link?Nov 11 03:10
DaemonFCgreen teaNov 11 03:10
XFaCEOr is this self-test results?Nov 11 03:10
DaemonFCwith blackcurrantNov 11 03:10
DaemonFCand vanillaNov 11 03:10
XFaCEmmmmNov 11 03:10
DaemonFCXFaCE: I tested the DirectX 11 abilities of my Radeon HD 5670 at one pointNov 11 03:10
DaemonFCon some DirectX 11 demos released by AMD and Microsoft Nov 11 03:10
DaemonFCand it didn't do a lot other than kill the framerateNov 11 03:10
DaemonFCthey had a dirtbike demo game with "enhancements" for DirectX 11Nov 11 03:11
schestowitzframerate kills YOUNov 11 03:11
XFaCEDrinking blueberry ginseng tea with milk and honey on a quiet fall day whilist listening to a classic Genesis album, like Wind and WutheringNov 11 03:11
schestowitzfrag!Nov 11 03:11
DaemonFCI turned the "enhancements" off and my framerate jumped from 15-20 fps to almost 50Nov 11 03:11
DaemonFCenhancements mean slow I guessNov 11 03:11
DaemonFClike with VistaNov 11 03:11
XFaCEDaemonFC: Isn't the Direct3D api now just pretty much OpenGL?Nov 11 03:12
DaemonFCmore or lessNov 11 03:12
schestowitza copy of itNov 11 03:12
DaemonFCprogrammable hardwareNov 11 03:12
schestowitzMicrosoft dos not embrace standardsNov 11 03:12
DaemonFCat the hardware level there's almost no differenceNov 11 03:12
schestowitzIt makes up its ownNov 11 03:12
schestowitzINNOVA~1Nov 11 03:12
XFaCEschestowitz: Too bad ooxml couldn't just be a copy of ODF.  Would help compatilbilty :)Nov 11 03:12
DaemonFCDirect3D 10/11 and OpenGL 3/4 don't overlap a lotNov 11 03:12
DaemonFCDirectX 9 and OpenGL 2 don't eitherNov 11 03:13
XFaCEschestowitz: You need to listen to more classic Genesis.  Very good "thinking" music.Nov 11 03:13
DaemonFCDirectX 8 and lower and OpenGL 1.x both required different fixed function hardwareNov 11 03:13
DaemonFCand so you'd usualyl only see one or the other supported wellNov 11 03:13
Brendan_TI didn't expect you to be using windows :oNov 11 03:13
DaemonFCprogrammable shader units are what more or less unified DirectX and OpenGL at the hardware levelNov 11 03:14
XFaCEDaemonFC: I read somewhere that version 10 was the API that started becomming an opengl copyNov 11 03:14
DaemonFCno, 9 wasNov 11 03:14
XFaCEDaemonFC: I remember this in relation to the announcement of Mesa 3d adding opengl support.Nov 11 03:14
XFaCEDaemonFC: Which you later mentioned on your blog.Nov 11 03:15
DaemonFCthe hardware itself is more or less neutral to the API you use nowNov 11 03:15
DaemonFCthat's higher up and a problem for the OS and the programmer of the applicationNov 11 03:15
XFaCEschestowitz: Wind and Wuthering, A trick of the tail, Duke, all great.Nov 11 03:15
DaemonFCit led to cheaper hardware that fully supports both APIs without compromising one or  the otherNov 11 03:16
DaemonFCit's a good thing because OpenGL was always the one that got the shit end of the stick when ATI and Nvidia had to choose on consumer hardwareNov 11 03:16
XFaCEschestowitz: Installing Debian with XFCE desktop prevents mono installationNov 11 03:17
XFaCEschestowitz: That seems to be a theme of XFCE distros. XFCE is the Mono antidote. :)Nov 11 03:17
schestowitzI thought DaemonFC was its antidoteNov 11 03:20
schestowitzroy@roy:~$ uptimeNov 11 03:21
schestowitz 03:20:52 up 29 days,  3:11,  2 users,  load average: 2.74, 2.47, 2.22Nov 11 03:21
schestowitzOne month soon... since I did something silly with my toaster and caused an outageNov 11 03:21
XFaCEschestowitz: Really?Nov 11 03:21
Brendan_Tits pretty easy to do it with toastersNov 11 03:21
schestowitzLinux roy 2.6.32-33-generic #70-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jul 7 21:09:46 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/LinuxNov 11 03:22
schestowitzNo kenel update in 4 monthsNov 11 03:22
XFaCEBrendan_T: I guess running BSD on a toaster isn't so farfetched after allNov 11 03:22
XFaCEschestowitz: I have a serious question for allNov 11 03:22
schestowitzBrendan_T: yeah, but always use a condom :-pNov 11 03:22
Brendan_Tsince the element strings its self all around it. just poke a knife in, and then check the fuse boxNov 11 03:22
XFaCEschestowitz: Do you know of any bias-inducing link between Apple and Consumer Reports?Nov 11 03:23
Brendan_Tplease highlight me again, i think its causing a glitchNov 11 03:23
schestowitzBrendan_T: boo hooNov 11 03:23
schestowitzBrendan_T: desktop glitch?Nov 11 03:23
Brendan_Tha, nice. it freezes my client, and the only way i can fix it is by resizing itNov 11 03:23
Brendan_Tweechat-curses in terminalNov 11 03:24
DaemonFCAn anonymous reader writes "The first full-scale test of the National Emergency Alert System failed on Tuesday at 2 PM. Some radio and television networks did not air any alert, while the performance of others was inconsistent. 'Some DirectTV customers reported hearing Lady Gaga's "Paparazzi" play during the test. Some Comcast subscribers saw their cable boxes turn to QVC before the alert, while Time Warner Cable customers in New York did not see Nov 11 03:24
DaemonFCany alert at all.'"Nov 11 03:24
DaemonFCIt's the end of the worldNov 11 03:24
DaemonFCsponsored by Lady GagaNov 11 03:24
DaemonFC;)Nov 11 03:24
Brendan_Ti dont even get to see the highlight either until i resize itNov 11 03:25
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DaemonFChttp://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/11/10/1834232/lawyer-continues-android-v-gpl-crusadeNov 11 03:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lawyer Continues Android v. GPL Crusade - Slashdot .::. Size~: 143.72 KBNov 11 03:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] No.Nov 11 03:25
DaemonFCjfruhlinger writes "Edward Naughton has been insisting for months that Android violates the GPL because Google created a new set of Linux kernel headers that it hasn't released the source code for, despite the fact that it incorporates open source code. While numerous commentators, including those who helped write the kernel headers, claimed this code isn't copyrightable, Naughton in persisting in his crusade, saying that the questions need to be Nov 11 03:25
DaemonFCresolved in court for the good of the open source movement."Nov 11 03:25
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DaemonFCmore samizdat FUD?Nov 11 03:26
XFaCEMicheal: No UNov 11 03:26
DaemonFCthis time with Android instead of LinuxNov 11 03:26
*Brendan_T lend on the mouse pad, which happened to right click, and release on the 'close tab' button in the drop down listNov 11 03:26
Brendan_TlentNov 11 03:26
XFaCEMichael: FUDFUDFUDNov 11 03:26
DaemonFCand Linus Torvalds saying he doesn't consider it to be a problemNov 11 03:26
DaemonFCinstead of Andrew Tanenbaum Nov 11 03:26
XFaCEDaemonFC: It's the same ole' song, forever...Nov 11 03:27
schestowitzIt's a Microsoft employeeNov 11 03:27
schestowitz /. should amend the headlineNov 11 03:27
schestowitzAnd the Microsoft mobbyist will echo thisNov 11 03:28
schestowitzthe summary ays nothing about the Microsoft paymentsNov 11 03:29
DaemonFCif his argument was valid, Opera is a derived work of the Linux kernel when it runs on LinuxNov 11 03:30
DaemonFCand so is everything for that matter ;)Nov 11 03:30
DaemonFCit's really a sneak attack on any software that runs on LinuxNov 11 03:31
DaemonFCthey're trying to get a court order saying it all has to be GPL'd so companies will get disgusted and leaveNov 11 03:31
DaemonFCheaders have already been ruled in court in the US to be non-copyrightable Nov 11 03:33
DaemonFCSCO tried that as part of its anti-Linux lawsuitNov 11 03:34
schestowitzthis is a Microsoft paperNov 11 03:35
schestowitzNaughtonNov 11 03:36
schestowitzit's  another one like FlorianNov 11 03:36
schestowitzIDG gives him attentionNov 11 03:36
schestowitzAnd doesn't name the money sourceNov 11 03:36
DaemonFChttp://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/State-rejects-Confederate-license-plates-2263222.phpNov 11 03:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: State rejects Confederate license plates - Houston Chronicle .::. Size~: 68.25 KBNov 11 03:36
DaemonFC:)Nov 11 03:36
DaemonFCIndiana has an In God We Trust license plate they try to pushNov 11 03:37
DaemonFCit's a custom plate that they don't charge extra for and try to give out if you don't tell them not toNov 11 03:38
DaemonFCI told them to just give me the one with the state flag on itNov 11 03:38
XFaCEDaemonFC: Your in indiana thenNov 11 03:38
DaemonFCif they push the issue next year, I guess I found a new use for duct tap;eNov 11 03:39
DaemonFC*tapeNov 11 03:39
DaemonFCduct tape over the "God" part and write in "XENU" with a sharpie markerNov 11 03:39
DaemonFChope the police have a sense of humorNov 11 03:39
XFaCElolNov 11 03:39
schestowitz!google youtube $20 to remove god from signNov 11 03:40
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - GOD vs $20 - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DziaL1MH0j8INov 11 03:40
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - God vs. $20 - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DMKv3w7uA-UcNov 11 03:40
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - God's Top Ten - Can You Name Them? (and win $20K) #1 - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DXgIQnfNCVfgNov 11 03:40
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - The Atheist Experience™: God, $20, Skepchick, Dickishness ... | http://atheistexperience.blogspot.com/2011/02/god-20-skepchick-dickishness.htmlNov 11 03:40
DaemonFCor In Cthulu We TrustNov 11 03:41
DaemonFChas a nice ring to it I thinkNov 11 03:41
schestowitzChange we can believe in... but not see :-)Nov 11 03:41
XFaCEThis kind of crap makes the Canadian Political environment look a lot betterNov 11 03:41
schestowitz"Does this hippo make my butt look fat?"Nov 11 03:42
XFaCEThough, does this top "The Harper Government" and his hall of narcissism?Nov 11 03:42
DaemonFCor I could get a vanity plate that says CTHULU4EVANov 11 03:42
DaemonFC:)Nov 11 03:42
schestowitzhey, when the End of the World comes, does religion scripture say that God dies too?Nov 11 03:42
schestowitzBecause that would be like a suicide pactNov 11 03:43
*DaemonFC is listening to Call Of The Ktulu by Metallica on S&M CD1 [Amarok]Nov 11 03:43
schestowitzfor the omnipotent, omnipresent, and omnipresent (well, I made that last one up, nobody ever saw her)Nov 11 03:43
schestowitzOmniscientNov 11 03:44
schestowitzNot OmniscienceNov 11 03:44
schestowitzNo conscience, eitherNov 11 03:44
schestowitzDaemonFC: you go to HellNov 11 03:44
schestowitzbetter than jailNov 11 03:44
DaemonFCIn God We Trust as the country falls apartNov 11 03:45
DaemonFCgreat timingNov 11 03:45
schestowitzyou're meet daemons thereNov 11 03:45
schestowitzthey'll rape youNov 11 03:45
DaemonFCmaybe if we suck up to him now, he'll save usNov 11 03:45
schestowitzsave from what?Nov 11 03:45
DaemonFCor maybe just Indiana since we gave him license plate statusNov 11 03:45
schestowitzThat implies a predetermined destiny to be sacrificedNov 11 03:45
schestowitzIf one need to be "Saved" that isNov 11 03:46
schestowitzLife should not be about being "saved", it's about livingNov 11 03:46
XFaCEI hope God is actually Q, that would be so awesome!Nov 11 03:46
DaemonFCJesus saves, by shopping at WalmarNov 11 03:46
DaemonFCWalmartNov 11 03:46
schestowitzIf you over-obsessed over escaping something, you'll never be happy :-)Nov 11 03:46
DaemonFCJesus saves, and takes half damage - MinceRNov 11 03:46
XFaCE"Macro-head, with a micro-brain!"Nov 11 03:46
schestowitzXFaCE: maybe QNov 11 03:46
schestowitzno QEDNov 11 03:47
DaemonFCJesus saves, with regular backupsNov 11 03:47
schestowitzrsync /home/jesus ...Nov 11 03:47
XFaCEDaemonFC: You made me think of Oh Brother Where Art Thou just nowNov 11 03:47
DaemonFCI shout "The power of xfsdump compels you!!!"Nov 11 03:47
XFaCEDaemonFC: "Jesus saves, but George Nelson withdraws"Nov 11 03:47
XFaCEGreat moveNov 11 03:47
XFaCEieNov 11 03:47
DaemonFCAfter 6 years at SGI and 11 in the Linux kernel, I should think XFS could be trustedNov 11 03:48
DaemonFC:)Nov 11 03:48
XFaCEschestowitz: http://stallman.org/photos/st_ignucius_at_st_pauls/index.htmlNov 11 03:48
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DaemonFCIt's mostly the demons of hard drive mechanical failureNov 11 03:49
schestowitzOh, Gawd bless 'imNov 11 03:49
XFaCEDaemonFC: Well, you could make that same arguement about JFSNov 11 03:49
XFaCEAnd J is a better letter than X, sor there. :DNov 11 03:49
schestowitzGawd@heaven # less /home/rms/Nov 11 03:50
DaemonFCI can't see why so many people are in a hurry to trust their data to new file systems with dubious advantagesNov 11 03:50
DaemonFCyou know they'll lose dataNov 11 03:50
DaemonFCThe false prophet from SCOracle Nov 11 03:50
XFaCEDaemonFC: So using JFS is smart then?Nov 11 03:50
XFaCEj/kNov 11 03:50
XFaCEHPFSNov 11 03:51
XFaCEHFS+Nov 11 03:51
XFaCEHFSNov 11 03:51
XFaCEfat32Nov 11 03:51
XFaCEfat16Nov 11 03:51
XFaCEfat12Nov 11 03:51
XFaCEtapeNov 11 03:51
DaemonFClook how old other file systems are that are still getting bugs fixedNov 11 03:51
DaemonFCdo you really want to trust BtrFS if it ends up in Fedora 17?Nov 11 03:51
XFaCEDaemonFC: It's got a lotta fanboysNov 11 03:52
XFaCEDaemonFC: Better than trying to use ZFS in Linux, me thinksNov 11 03:52
DaemonFCyeah, it got rammed in because it has a big company behind itNov 11 03:52
XFaCEWe should tell the maker of BFS thatNov 11 03:53
DaemonFClook what happened to Reiser4Nov 11 03:53
XFaCEBatshit insane murderer?Nov 11 03:53
DaemonFCif it wasn't some big huge company BtrFS would have never been mergedNov 11 03:53
XFaCEyeah yeah yeahNov 11 03:54
XFaCEhmmNov 11 03:54
XFaCEDaemonFC: What prompted you to belch out more posts?Nov 11 03:55
DaemonFCcause I canNov 11 03:55
XFaCEDaemonFC: Wow, I always joked that the Windows Firewall could be security exploit. Great job, MS.Nov 11 03:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] If it works for you, then I have no say, but for me peeling off brackets is an invitation to stupid mistakes when I modify that code later.Nov 11 03:57
DaemonFCThe Windows Firewall only works unless something wants through itNov 11 03:57
DaemonFCit's like it's only there when you're looking right at itNov 11 03:58
DaemonFCand when you blink, something can slip throughNov 11 03:58
XFaCEWhatever you do, don't blink.Nov 11 03:58
XFaCEGood luck.Nov 11 03:58
DaemonFCmmhm :)Nov 11 03:58
*XFaCE hi-fives DaemonFC/Nov 11 03:59
XFaCEanywhoNov 11 03:59
XFaCEFoxconn: Touched by a MicrosoftNov 11 03:59
XFaCEI should do a presentation on the "Invisible Touch" of Microsoft on all the companies it forges ties with that end up being crippled or worseNov 11 04:00
XFaCE"Seems to have an Invisible Touch yeah.  It takes control, slowly tears you apart."Nov 11 04:01
XFaCEDaemonFC: But let's not forget that Microsoft is providing CHOICE to the marketplace.  To deny Microsoft is to deny CHOICE!!Nov 11 04:03
XFaCEDaemonFC: To choose Microsoft is... to deny CHOICE.Nov 11 04:03
XFaCEschestowitz: So, on a more serious note. Nov 11 04:07
XFaCEDo you know of any Apple - ConsumerReports connection?Nov 11 04:08
schestowitzi was away, busyNov 11 04:08
XFaCEtake your time, no rushNov 11 04:09
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Brendan_Tso its pretty simple to crack a windows machine? i wouldnt mind learning, so i can prove myself a bit when i tell fanboys it sucksNov 11 04:14
schestowitzMicrosovt cracks Windows machines all the timeNov 11 04:15
schestowitzLike a billion machines per dayNov 11 04:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Thank you to @Fingolas for transforming http://thepowerofopen.org into an ePUB! Available at http://goo.gl/U8RwrNov 11 04:20
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Brendan_Tsorry, someone highlighted me :PNov 11 04:23
Brendan_Tye4ah but i want to join in, so i can be leet crackerNov 11 04:23
azalyngo away, script kiddie.Nov 11 04:25
Brendan_T:{Nov 11 04:27
schestowitzheheNov 11 04:27
Brendan_Ti admit it would be very fun to do itNov 11 04:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] I better grab my towel!Nov 11 04:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] yeah, we were sketchy for a while :/Nov 11 05:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] seems to beNov 11 05:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] fine, and you?Nov 11 05:30
DaemonFChttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45244150/ns/technology_and_science-space/Nov 11 05:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Mostly when I insert a statement and fail to recognize that the original statement has now moved outside the if/for/whatever scope.Nov 11 06:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Reader’s Picks Microsoft mouthpieces confirm the death of Silverblight. to be abandoned after the launch of Silve http://ur1.ca/5qrbiNov 11 06:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ Reader’s Picks Microsoft mouthpieces confirm the death of Silverblight. to be abandoned after the launch of Silve http://ur1. ...Nov 11 06:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] !fsfe 's workshop starts at 10am at Språkbanken, Lennart Torstenssonsgatan 6-8, #Gothenburg, #SwedenNov 11 07:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Good morning Gothenburg! Getting ready for !fsfe workshops today. Starting here http://ur1.ca/5q5bk at 10. Signed up or not, see you there!Nov 11 07:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Barnes & Noble: Microsoft trying to make #android as expensive as Windows Mobile through patent extortion http://ur1.ca/5qrpwNov 11 07:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: "..educational institutions, teachers, & students would lose their rights under fair dealing, educational & library exceptions"Nov 11 07:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: ACCC: "The digital-locks amendment will..severely limit how one can access and use digital information. In prac http://ur1. ...Nov 11 07:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: RT @BoingBoing: Warner Bros admits it sends takedown notices for files it hasn't seen and doesn't own http://t.co/ilQWer3SNov 11 07:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: RT @caparsons: Lawful Access, Its Potentials, and Its Lack of Necessity http://t.co/5xewbtTC #privacyNov 11 07:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: RT @Mark_Goldberg: So Canada was scooped by bold @FCC / @NCTAcable program; No shame in copying it here http://t.co/afrhywDZNov 11 07:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: The Daily Digital Lock Dissenter, Day 27: Association of Canadian Community Colleges http://t.co/AJZHIhEdNov 11 07:45
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DaemonFCschestowitz: Consumer Reports is a jokeNov 11 07:46
DaemonFCif they were legit, they'd have the power to sink bad companies, but they never doNov 11 07:46
DaemonFCwhich means they're being paid offNov 11 07:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] RT @notmart same !plasma widget, different devices and form factors http://ur1.ca/5qg7p http://ur1.ca/5qg7q !kdeNov 11 07:50
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schestowitzDaemonFC: MS is the most ethical company :-)Nov 11 07:57
schestowitzthink tank saidNov 11 07:57
DaemonFCyeah, Walmart was the "most admired company" in America according to Forbes in the hight of the lawsuits forNov 11 07:58
DaemonFCwage and hour violationsNov 11 07:58
DaemonFCemployment discrimination against womenNov 11 07:58
DaemonFCviolation of child labor and safety lawsNov 11 07:59
DaemonFCmultiple environmental law infractionsNov 11 07:59
DaemonFCand so onNov 11 07:59
DaemonFC:)Nov 11 07:59
DaemonFCturns out if you make someone money they have nice things to say about youNov 11 07:59
DaemonFCthey bought walmartsucks.com which had turned into a forum for angry customers and employees to vent about themNov 11 08:00
DaemonFCand gave it to a parking companyNov 11 08:00
DaemonFC:)Nov 11 08:00
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DaemonFCThen paid Edelman to create a astroturf group calling itself "Workign Families for Walmart"Nov 11 08:01
DaemonFCwhich lobbied Congress to repeal workers rights lawsNov 11 08:01
DaemonFC:)Nov 11 08:01
DaemonFCthe few that are left, I meanNov 11 08:01
DaemonFCthe ones that annoy Walmart like overtime and minimum wageNov 11 08:01
DaemonFCand those pesky unionsNov 11 08:02
DaemonFCyou say the word "union" around a manager at Walmart, you'll be fired for something in the next few daysNov 11 08:02
DaemonFC:)Nov 11 08:02
DaemonFCit won't be cause of the union statement, that would be illegalNov 11 08:02
DaemonFCbut if you watch someone long enough you can fabricate reasons to fire themNov 11 08:03
oiaohmDaemonFC: does not really happen here.Nov 11 08:04
oiaohmMore likely fired for not being part of a union.Nov 11 08:04
oiaohmHereNov 11 08:04
oiaohmBecause they don't want you fighting for your rights solo.Nov 11 08:04
oiaohmAustralian laws for the solo are quite strong.Nov 11 08:04
DaemonFChttp://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/09/20/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t11:00Nov 11 08:39
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DaemonFC"We can't hide dissent, so we'll shut the entire mailing list down"Nov 11 08:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] I am in workshop room K235 waiting for !fellows. Unfortunately the university network is blocking xmpp. #fsconsNov 11 08:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Naughty Naughton promises fun. Let's see who his clients are.Nov 11 08:54
MinceRgeekingsNov 11 09:06
oiaohmMinceR:  seen the news about Microsoft looking at stopping silverlightNov 11 09:14
MinceRi thought they stopped it a while ago alreadyNov 11 09:18
oiaohmThere is going to be a silverlight 5Nov 11 09:19
oiaohmAnd that might be it.Nov 11 09:19
Brendan_Tsilverlight was microsofts attempt to gain control of the internet wasnt it?Nov 11 09:20
MinceRsilver lie was m$ going "me too!" over Adobe TrashNov 11 09:20
DaemonFChttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/10/microsoft_killing_silverlight_rumours/Nov 11 09:21
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Brendan_TbrilliantNov 11 09:23
DaemonFChttp://www.pcworld.com/shopping/detail/prtprdid,703377-sortby,retailer/pricing.htmlNov 11 09:23
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DaemonFC:DNov 11 09:24
DaemonFCI love their advertisementsNov 11 09:24
DaemonFChilariousNov 11 09:24
MinceR?Nov 11 09:26
Brendan_Tits funny how companies have to pretend the software is something physical that comes in a boxNov 11 09:26
DaemonFCRed Hat Linux 9Nov 11 09:26
DaemonFCfor over $300Nov 11 09:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Help analyse answers to #IPRED consultation - http://bit.ly/tw2qNr help LQDN fight this imminent EU legislationNov 11 09:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Importance of microblogs in China shown as #Weibo pass 550 million users - http://tnw.co/sYHohe #twitter eat your heart outNov 11 09:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] HR 2930 and Open Source Funding - http://bit.ly/sD1APH "will allow entrepreneurs to bypass the entire vulture capital bottle neck"Nov 11 09:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Bechtolsheim: AWS, open source rewrite rules for startups - http://bit.ly/u7zXtI well, I think that's been evident for a while...Nov 11 10:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Thailand’s $130 million junior school tablet initiative set for trial - http://tnw.co/sNZAXK talks of $100 tab: maybe #linux...?Nov 11 10:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Barnes & Noble takes down Microsoft's arguments one by one in slide deck for DOJ on #android http://ur1.ca/5q34iNov 11 11:09
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iophkNow all that's needed is for the other Android sellers to bite back, too.Nov 11 11:10
oiaohmiophk: no we don't.Nov 11 11:15
oiaohmiophk: have you looked at what Barnes & Noble is going for.Nov 11 11:15
oiaohmIts a anti-trust breach against Microsoft.Nov 11 11:15
oiaohmIf they win this will be the second one against Microsoft.Nov 11 11:15
oiaohmHistorically no company have remained as one company after 2.Nov 11 11:16
iophkSlide #26 has a good summary of the anti-competitive behaviorsNov 11 11:16
oiaohmiophk: yep and how many of those MS was not ment to be doing as part of the prior anti-trust settlement.Nov 11 11:18
iophkHistorically there has been no cult like M$ before.  Rules are not likely to apply even if a second anti-trust breach is found.  M$ never stopped its anticompetitive behavior with the browsers.Nov 11 11:18
iophkAlso the B&N case will drag on too long to be of any effect.Nov 11 11:18
iophkLook at the WordPerfect case which is just now making headway.  It is from 1994, almost 20 years ago.Nov 11 11:19
oiaohmReally we need B&N to open the case in the EU.Nov 11 11:19
oiaohmEU is far more responsive.Nov 11 11:19
iophkEU is probably also faster.Nov 11 11:19
oiaohmEU uses expanding fines the longer you don't confirm to ruling as well.Nov 11 11:20
iophkThey still have to exceed the benefits, which hasn't happened yet.  Until then, any fines that may be levied are just the cost of doing business and not a deterrent to any behavior.Nov 11 11:21
oiaohmRemember MS gave up spec sheets to stop EU fines.Nov 11 11:21
oiaohmThis is how EU fines work.Nov 11 11:21
iophkSamba?Nov 11 11:21
oiaohmYep.Nov 11 11:21
oiaohmEU fines are evil.Nov 11 11:22
oiaohmYou are fined X ammountNov 11 11:22
iophkSamba paid real money for that spec sheet.  M$ did not just give it up.Nov 11 11:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] RD @FFKP Learn how to generate your gpg key here! http://ur1.ca/5qutg #fscons #gpg << yes, by all means, do! Encryption rocks.Nov 11 11:22
oiaohmIn fact no.Nov 11 11:22
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oiaohmThe spec sheets were free iophkNov 11 11:22
oiaohmPatent coverage was not iophkNov 11 11:22
oiaohmIf MS did not give up the spec sheets what they tried to avoid doing.Nov 11 11:23
oiaohmThey were fined X ammount.Nov 11 11:23
oiaohmProblem when it times out.Nov 11 11:23
oiaohmThey are then fined again X + XNov 11 11:23
iophk"Samba pays Microsoft a one-time fee of 10,000 euros."Nov 11 11:23
iophkhttp://betanews.com/2007/12/21/microsoft-makes-good-on-eu-protocol-delivery-promise/Nov 11 11:23
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oiaohmAfter a few years MS was looking at a yearly fine larger than their yearly income.Nov 11 11:24
oiaohmMind you the ruling in samba direction was a few years before that iophkNov 11 11:24
iophkIt would take a fine that large to have any positive effect.Nov 11 11:24
oiaohmThe fine got to 900 million a year before MS started to wake up they were in trouble.Nov 11 11:25
iophkDid they ever pay the fines?Nov 11 11:25
oiaohmYesNov 11 11:25
oiaohmThey did not have an option.Nov 11 11:25
oiaohmEU courts got order in USA courts to directly withdraw the money from MS bank accounts.Nov 11 11:25
oiaohmYes EU plays hard ball.Nov 11 11:26
oiaohmIts not do you wish to pay.Nov 11 11:26
oiaohmIt we will take.Nov 11 11:26
iophkThey failed big time in the more recent browser case.  The 'ballot' does nothing about the original problem which was that of tying.Nov 11 11:27
oiaohmStill if you read the fine print the EU reserves the right to try again at a latter date if the action does not correct the balance.Nov 11 11:28
iophkNothing been corrected, the browser is still bundled with the OS.Nov 11 11:28
oiaohmOf course MS got fined again in the ballot case.Nov 11 11:28
iophkYes but the fine was small. Nov 11 11:28
oiaohmReally with the mess the EU is in a mega fine against MS would be useful.Nov 11 11:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] blogged: Oh !Canada "Fighting for Our Freedom" http://ur1.ca/5qvii !FreeByron #RemembranceDay !CDNpoliNov 11 11:29
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oiaohmiophk: also be aware lot of cases in the EU have gone in the direction of linux for software aquirement as well.Nov 11 11:31
iophkLots of countries too, but none are being implemented.Nov 11 11:31
iophkThe rules are there but ignored.Nov 11 11:32
oiaohmiophk: It is not none.Nov 11 11:32
oiaohmSome are being implemented.Nov 11 11:32
oiaohmThe UK one area where they could not work out the secuirty status of open source was funny if it was not serous.Nov 11 11:33
oiaohmBasically there are a lot of getting use to the foss aquirement process.Nov 11 11:33
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schestowitz"Nov 11 11:42
schestowitzThe warped interpretation of IP law of all types is going to continue to rob the many, for the benefit of the few, for some time to come.Nov 11 11:42
schestowitzThe proof that this demographic is parasitic is obvious when it is considered that depriving the social context you are dependent on is an appalling business decision. Who, with any business nous at all, attacks the market sector they depend on for existence?Nov 11 11:42
schestowitz"Nov 11 11:42
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/781526Nov 11 11:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Now to sleep... !Tzaf & sleep well !IdentiverseNov 11 11:47
oiaohmiophk: remember banes & nobble can play the small fish being beat up by big fish in the MS case.Nov 11 12:07
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iophkSo could the others.Nov 11 12:09
oiaohmNot really.Nov 11 12:09
oiaohmMS had been picking off the largest first.Nov 11 12:10
oiaohmOnes that could not really place the best cards.Nov 11 12:10
oiaohmWaiting is sometimes the best move iophkNov 11 12:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #2012: Obama has killed the Keystone XL pipeline project, has much greater chance of being re-elected nowNov 11 12:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] RT @jaimealsilva Commodore is back, now running !Linux http://identi.ca/url/56613342Nov 11 12:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @coreation :D geniaalNov 11 12:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp http://t.co/O2JcQC2r - zou jij de eerste uitspraak toelaten? Hoe spreek jij het uit? #/kiːˈhoʊtɪzəm/Nov 11 12:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @coreation: Occupy SABAM zou wel nog iets zijn om vrije tijd door te brengen... #internettaksNov 11 12:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Mozilla wants users to upgrade to latest version of #Firefox - The H Open Source - come on let's upgrade :) http://goo.gl/NBFMBNov 11 13:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Study: Serious security holes in US prisons - H Security|prison control computers connected to the internet, genius!NOT http://goo.gl/oQiDuNov 11 13:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] De monte 03 - Cuchilleria Deportiva Joker | Cuchilleria Albacete - #bushcraft #knives #spain http://goo.gl/IG1HlNov 11 14:07
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xjasonxscary: I was watching the GDC videos and came across this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L_oXvIhOWM&t=3m23sNov 11 14:16
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xjasonxSony PlayStation is moving to MONONov 11 14:17
xjasonxalso for their Android devicesNov 11 14:17
oiaohmxjasonx: really I am not that worried.Nov 11 14:21
oiaohmMono project is unlikely to grow to well.Nov 11 14:21
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xjasonxugh, got disconnectedNov 11 14:29
xjasonxdid you guys see my link? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L_oXvIhOWM&t=3m23sNov 11 14:29
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xjasonxSony is doing MONO for their PlayStation and Android devices now :-\Nov 11 14:30
oiaohmReally why am I not exactly worried.Nov 11 14:30
oiaohmHow long before MS uses the patent bat against it.Nov 11 14:31
xjasonxtomorrow? :)Nov 11 14:31
xjasonxM$ has xbox so yea, they will probably sue real fastNov 11 14:32
oiaohmExactlyNov 11 14:32
MinceRthat would be an interesting spectacleNov 11 14:33
oiaohmAlso it would be part about Sony attempting to nick some games from the xboxNov 11 14:33
MinceRm$ having to choose between letting a gaming console competitor use mono and revealing their patent trap to allNov 11 14:34
xjasonxyea, Sony is supporting XNANov 11 14:34
xjasonxwhich is the API xbox usesNov 11 14:34
oiaohmxjasonx: the question is more how long MS wants to hide there hands.Nov 11 14:34
oiaohmOne thing we can be 100 percent sure it will not be for ever.Nov 11 14:34
xjasonxM$ won't want to let Sony steal their gamesNov 11 14:34
oiaohmReally MS is desperate to get .net developers.Nov 11 14:35
oiaohmThe wall of ARM and MIPS is coming.Nov 11 14:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Algorithmic randomness comes as close to true randomness as a computer can get (VICE): http://bit.ly/ty2Qz9Nov 11 14:35
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xjasonxohNov 11 14:36
xjasonxSony is also putting MONO on their Android devicesNov 11 14:36
xjasonxso you KNOW M$ is going to sue nowNov 11 14:36
oiaohmAnd remember that version of Mono is not free.Nov 11 14:36
oiaohmSo sony is going to make its version of android more expensive.Nov 11 14:37
xjasonxto pay the Xamarian tax? yeaNov 11 14:37
oiaohmMaybe.Nov 11 14:38
oiaohmOr maybe sony has forked off the old mono code base.Nov 11 14:38
oiaohmand is going to piss Xamarian off.Nov 11 14:38
oiaohmhttp://android.xamarin.com/  Yep Xamarian expect you to pay for the android version.Nov 11 14:39
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MinceRin this case, "garbage collected framework" means that garbage was collected and forms the framework itselfNov 11 14:40
xjasonxlol, yeaNov 11 14:40
xjasonxI find it amazing that anyone at all wants to use MONONov 11 14:40
oiaohmUbuntu removing it from defaultNov 11 14:41
xjasonxwhy not java?Nov 11 14:41
xjasonxwhy not python?Nov 11 14:41
xjasonxwhy not C?Nov 11 14:41
xjasonxI know! I saw!Nov 11 14:41
xjasonxthat is great newsNov 11 14:41
oiaohmHarmony from Appache has died.Nov 11 14:41
xjasonxyea but it wasn't GPL so who cares?Nov 11 14:41
oiaohmSo openjdk and redhats are the only two open source java left.Nov 11 14:42
xjasonxboth of which are GPL :)Nov 11 14:42
MinceRwhat is red hat's version called?Nov 11 14:42
xjasonxIcedTeaNov 11 14:42
MinceRicNov 11 14:42
xjasonxiircNov 11 14:42
MinceRi thought that was obstacle's tooNov 11 14:42
MinceRi must have confused it with OpenJDKNov 11 14:42
xjasonxOpenJDK is SCOraclesNov 11 14:43
oiaohmCeylon Project  is one  of the redhat java projects.Nov 11 14:43
xjasonxok, I gotta go. meeting a friend and then we're going to head to OWS for the weekend :)Nov 11 14:43
oiaohmRedhat is licensed to extend java without requiring orcales approval.  MinceRNov 11 14:44
MinceRsounds fishyNov 11 14:44
oiaohmOpenJDK is oracle and Icedtea is redhats.Nov 11 14:44
MinceRwhat about third parties working on IcedTea?Nov 11 14:44
oiaohmBoth can demo new techs.Nov 11 14:44
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oiaohmRehdat IcedTea is a full certifed java.  MinceRNov 11 14:45
oiaohmIe without a certifcation process it techically cannot use the title java.  MinceRNov 11 14:46
MinceRi care little about the titleNov 11 14:46
oiaohmRedhat can vet third parties work on Icedtea.  Just like oracle can vet thrid party work on OpenJDKNov 11 14:46
oiaohmSo keeping the java title.Nov 11 14:47
MinceRif it works and i can work with it and collaborate with others on it, i'm satisfied if i have to call it LarrySucks and not JavaNov 11 14:47
oiaohmRemember redhat can force extentions in.Nov 11 14:47
oiaohmIcedtea and openjdk basically compare what they have extend to java.Nov 11 14:48
oiaohmAnd what ever good the other has to take up and it become part of the standard.Nov 11 14:48
oiaohmIBM also has the right to run there own JDK but they are not doing that Nov 11 14:48
oiaohmCurrently.Nov 11 14:49
oiaohmReally some other company should get IBM right to produce a JDK.Nov 11 14:49
oiaohmSo the 3 pillers of java are maintained.Nov 11 14:49
oiaohmCurrent 2 pillers is not exactly stable.Nov 11 14:49
MinceRgoogle should :>Nov 11 14:50
oiaohmReally it would be good if google could after all the patent dispute with orcale dies down.Nov 11 14:51
oiaohmOf course it would require google to accept the common license.Nov 11 14:51
oiaohmGPL+linking exceptionNov 11 14:51
oiaohmReason for each implementation using the same license is the theory that code can be moved between impeNov 11 14:52
oiaohmimplementations.Nov 11 14:52
oiaohmWithout causing any bad side effects.Nov 11 14:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @evan Is it possible to run high-quality graphics on KVM in Fedora 16? Like, to run Ubuntu with Unity? Or does on VirtualBox do that?Nov 11 15:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] What do you mean?Nov 11 15:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I just find it ridiculous that hardware vendors "improve" Honeycomb with broken, slow launchers.Nov 11 15:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] awesome KDE 4.8 preview screencast: http://ur1.ca/5qzk7Nov 11 15:19
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XFaCEMono...on the PlaystationNov 11 15:20
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XFaCEwow...why?Nov 11 15:21
XFaCEMicrosoft-booster: Cross-platform "partnerships", choice, blach blachNov 11 15:21
XFaCEThough the Playstation is already a locked-down cluster fuck without  monoNov 11 15:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Tell @TheJusticeDept: Put a stop to Voter Disenfranchisement. http://identi.ca/url/56632287Nov 11 15:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Apple websites have cross site scripting security bugs http://identi.ca/url/56632470Nov 11 15:24
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MinceRit might be an interesting fightNov 11 15:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Linux Mint: The second most popular Debian-based distro after Ubuntu? (ExtremeTech): http://bit.ly/vMD0I8Nov 11 15:47
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XFaCEMinceR: New bloatNov 11 15:48
MinceRXFaCE: m$ having to choose between letting a gaming console competitor use mono (to support suXbox games that target XNA) and revealing their patent trap to allNov 11 15:49
XFaCEMinceR: I was actually talking about the Linux Mint dent, but that too. :)Nov 11 15:50
MinceRoh.Nov 11 15:50
MinceRi stopped caring about mint when it was revealed that the debian-based version has rolling releaseNov 11 15:50
XFaCEwhat's wrong with that?Nov 11 15:51
MinceRso it's either ubuntu or rollingNov 11 15:51
XFaCERolling is pretty coolNov 11 15:51
MinceRit can make upgrades impossible if you go for a long time without upgradesNov 11 15:51
MinceRalso, it mixes security fixes with major upgradesNov 11 15:51
XFaCEYou have to be diligentNov 11 15:51
MinceRi prefer to postpone major changes to times when i can handle themNov 11 15:52
XFaCEMinceR: MS likes to dig holes, no?Nov 11 15:52
MinceRyesNov 11 15:52
MinceRsecurity holes at leastNov 11 15:52
XFaCEShort-term thinking to a whole new levelNov 11 15:52
XFaCEWe are blind... to the FUTURENov 11 15:52
MinceRwell, the future doesn't have them in itselfNov 11 15:53
XFaCEAnd yet, Bill Gates is celebrated because he's got lots of monies.Nov 11 15:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Hell freezes over. Facebook to go opt-in as default. Me happy. http://ur1.ca/5r04xNov 11 15:54
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XFaCEEven though his legacy ala the company is doing terriblyNov 11 15:54
XFaCE"Gates was a visionary, he realized that gaming the system and avoiding lawsuits was the way to go.  He taught us all the ethics are to be secondary or ignored."Nov 11 15:55
MinceR:>Nov 11 15:55
XFaCEIf you looks at his profile, then Gates is actually not that specialNov 11 15:57
XFaCEHe is the textbook example of a corrupt CEO.  Nothing new thereNov 11 15:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Gotta love Neelie. She blogs. She is on google plus, she says the right things AND she works on making it happen. Respe... http://b1t.it/Tq1Nov 11 15:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] !fsfe workshop now over, now food than going to !fscons social eventNov 11 16:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Open64 5.0 released http://ur1.ca/5r0kpNov 11 16:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] good to see BBC beginning to report on the mess that is #patents - http://bbc.in/sbiAbB (v @Coadec)Nov 11 16:20
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/agente_smithe/statuses/134943992004624385Nov 11 16:23
TechrightsBot-tr@agente_smithe: @ovigia @schestowitz A truly David Vs Goliath. I just would like to see Huawei beating the crap out of M$. Huawei can do it.Nov 11 16:23
schestowitz[14:37] <xjasonx> to pay the Xamarian tax? yeaNov 11 16:25
schestowitzSounds like SamaritanNov 11 16:25
schestowitz[14:38] <oiaohm> and is going to piss Xamarian off.Nov 11 16:25
schestowitz[15:21] <XFaCE> Microsoft-booster: Cross-platform "partnerships", choice, blach blachNov 11 16:26
schestowitzAt MS, cross-platforkm means xbox, zune, windows versions, etc.Nov 11 16:26
schestowitz[15:57] <XFaCE> He is the textbook example of a corrupt CEO.  Nothing new thereNov 11 16:26
schestowitzThere are other textbook exampleNov 11 16:27
XFaCEschestowitz: More specifically, it means being able to run Microsoft crap on more hardware.Nov 11 16:27
XFaCECross-platform hardware, not softwareNov 11 16:27
iophkIt runs on both AMD *and* IntelNov 11 16:27
iophk:PNov 11 16:27
XFaCEExactly; even then it sucksNov 11 16:27
XFaCEBut that is still what Microsoft is trying to sayNov 11 16:28
iophkI'm hoping for big changes with the rise of ARM and return of MIPSNov 11 16:28
XFaCEWhat return of Mips?Nov 11 16:28
iophkMIPS was around for a while.Nov 11 16:28
XFaCEI know of RMS' laptop that uses a Mips-based processor, but I was not aware of some mass re-adoption of MIPSNov 11 16:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @glynmoody good to see BBC beginning to report on the mess that is #patents - http://ur1.ca/5r0qv (v @Coadec)Nov 11 16:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] looks like cloud-based !statusnet sites just had a DB error. "DB Error: connect failed"Nov 11 16:29
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XFaCEAbsolute not.  Out of the question.Nov 11 16:29
iophkChina uses MIPS because of LoongsonNov 11 16:29
XFaCESince when do monopolies hinder innovation?Nov 11 16:29
XFaCEiophk: Yes, that's what RMS' la[top also usesNov 11 16:30
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MinceRthe PS2 also used MIPS, iircNov 11 16:30
XFaCEMinceR: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotion_EngineNov 11 16:32
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MinceRsays it has MIPS ISANov 11 16:32
XFaCErisc specificallyNov 11 16:33
MinceRRISC is more general than MIPSNov 11 16:33
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schestowitzI'll post 4 new aticles now...Nov 11 16:34
XFaCEschestowitz: coolNov 11 16:35
XFaCEbbsNov 11 16:35
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schestowitzI wrote that int he gym thoughNov 11 16:36
schestowitzno spellcheckerNov 11 16:36
schestowitztoday I met Mike and his fiancée for lunch at a restaurant in town, then went to the gym for social purposes. It has been a fun day for me...Nov 11 16:36
schestowitzBut I need to do some work tonight (from home)Nov 11 16:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Time taken to build the first binutils - 3mins Time required to build rest of the system from scratch - priceless!Nov 11 16:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ken Starks: The Unsung Hero - http://bit.ly/w46C51 seconded #freeswNov 11 16:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why it's important to pull together on libel reform, despite some differences - http://bit.ly/szDVqr true: we must get this sorted #ukNov 11 16:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slightly Right of Centre: Why it's important to pull together on libel reform, despite some differences .::. Size~: 97.94 KBNov 11 16:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I don't suppose she is on Identica? You are right she does a wonderful job.Nov 11 16:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] 4th State of Water discovered http://identi.ca/url/56636300Nov 11 17:00
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schestowitzKen Starks said I was a source of inspiration to him :-)Nov 11 17:02
amarsh04Ken Starks himself is a source of inspiration for manyNov 11 17:05
amarsh04time for me to sleep anyway... back laterNov 11 17:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Buckshee Linux goodies (for a !linux joke). Jokes in comments section. via !techrights http://ur1.ca/5r1k0Nov 11 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Looks like Barnes & Nobles are really going up against MSFT, unlike many others before them http://ur1.ca/5r1k2... http://b1t.it/TsPNov 11 17:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Speedy Firefox 9 Beta Versions Take Their Place in Line http://ur1.ca/5r1r9Nov 11 17:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Great CC projects over at @kickstarter http://goo.gl/KdQRT. Support that work and ours too! http://creativecommons.net/donateNov 11 17:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @fs111 Oh? I'm sorry, I though this was public. Deleted.Nov 11 18:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @bdesmet_ uch. Salt in the wound. Anything you'd like to add?Nov 11 18:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A glance at the sordid mess created by patents, companies' real attitude towards patents, and propaganda from patent la http://ur1.ca/5r2dgNov 11 18:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ A glance at the sordid mess created by patents, companies' real attitude towards patents, and propaganda from patent la http://ur1. ...Nov 11 18:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Human Rights Watch reports "Crimes against humanity" in #Syria http://identi.ca/url/56638844Nov 11 18:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] STOP SOPA, SAVE THE INTERNET http://identi.ca/url/56638849Nov 11 18:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Bruhahaha. Apple's photostream does not allow you to delete specific pictures. And you also cannot decide which ones to upload. #failNov 11 18:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Oakland Police ask Occupy Oakland to "please: leave peacefully and immediately" http://identi.ca/url/56638996Nov 11 18:17
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schestowitzhttp://joindiaspora.com/posts/789581Nov 11 18:19
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schestowitz"It looks like as though I have a normal vision, but I actually do need glasses if I'm driving a car or in the back seat in class. "Nov 11 18:19
schestowitzI'm probably getting the same way myselfNov 11 18:19
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/85154931  http://identi.ca/notice/85154933 http://identi.ca/notice/85156372 http://identi.ca/notice/85157357 http://identi.ca/notice/85157425Nov 11 18:34
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-11 17:24:39 UTC - Identi.ca: Nothing Truly Unique in #OpenSUSE 12.1 Compared to #Fedora 16 and #Ubuntu 11.10 http://ur1.ca/5r1qe #suseNov 11 18:34
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TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-11 18:03:20 UTC - Identi.ca: Patent Lawyers Compare #Patent Monopolies to Children http://ur1.ca/5r2dg #swpatsNov 11 18:34
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TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-11 18:32:18 UTC - Identi.ca: Microsoft Lobbyists Help #Microsoft Dodge Charges of Patent Extortion and Then Smear #Google Instead http://is.gd/6OJ710 #swpatsNov 11 18:34
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TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-11 18:33:38 UTC - Identi.ca: The #Acacia Tax on Life http://ur1.ca/5r295 #swpatsNov 11 18:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft Florian and other spinners whom Microsoft paid are performing a reality distortion exercise that they try to http://ur1.ca/5r32xNov 11 18:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ Microsoft Florian and other spinners whom Microsoft paid are performing a reality distortion exercise that they try to http://ur1. ...Nov 11 18:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Lobbyists Help Microsoft Dodge Charges of Patent Extortion and Then Smear Google Instead | Techrights .::. Size~: 87.29 KBNov 11 18:44
tessierKen Starks = Helios? If so he does great work. I've been reading his blog for quite a while now.Nov 11 18:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] woo, thank you arch packages being tars, couldn't have gotten gtk1.2 easily without you :DNov 11 18:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] !Mint seems to have taken the throne from !ubuntu: ur1.ca/t6u8 yay for diversity and competition in !gnu !linux community!Nov 11 18:49
schestowitzhm... Linux Today serves full page ads for MS Office nowNov 11 18:51
cubezzz:-/Nov 11 18:51
cubezzzmoney talksNov 11 18:51
tessierThey've done weird stuff like that for quite a while although I don't recall full page ads.Nov 11 18:51
cubezzzfull page?Nov 11 18:51
cubezzzscreenshot?Nov 11 18:51
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cubezzzI see tons of Brocade ads, whatever that isNov 11 18:53
cubezzzsome cloud thingNov 11 18:53
schestowitzHelios said I stay in trenches even when it's getting filled with flaming crap (anti-Linux)Nov 11 18:53
schestowitzThat was in LXer IIRC, around 2007 or 2006Nov 11 18:53
cubezzzI bet those microsoft ads don't work very wellNov 11 18:54
schestowitzThey do in konqNov 11 18:54
cubezzzpeople don't go to linuxtoday to learn about microsoft officeNov 11 18:54
schestowitzWith a 10 sec timerNov 11 18:54
schestowitzIt's Ofice 360Nov 11 18:55
cubezzzno, I mean I doubt their effectivenessNov 11 18:55
schestowitzFor people who search the Web for Linux stuffNov 11 18:55
cubezzzhaven't seen any microsoft ads on tv latelyNov 11 18:57
cubezzzthey seem to come in bunchesNov 11 18:57
schestowitzheheNov 11 19:00
cubezzzthis may be of interest:Nov 11 19:03
cubezzzhttp://fossforce.com/2011/07/microsoft-ads-on-foss-sites/Nov 11 19:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] http://ur1.ca/5r3fs #sip_and_clickNov 11 19:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] To be fair, #zdnet should say *co*founder. #WordPress has two founders, one lives near here in Stockport, had coffee with him 6 years ago.Nov 11 19:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I bought 200g of Stilton for sarnies today. The chances of it ever meeting bread are diminishing.Nov 11 19:15
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/85158523Nov 11 19:17
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schestowitzThat's himNov 11 19:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] All Programming is Web Programming http://identi.ca/url/44308432Nov 11 19:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I had forgotten about Death In Vegas. I will have another listen. #musicNov 11 19:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Father's homemade machine helps disabled son to walk http://identi.ca/url/56641335Nov 11 19:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux Mint 12 RC1 Review http://ur1.ca/5r3rv All change in the Linux world.http://is.gd/aomaTy #linuxmint #gnu #linuxNov 11 19:22
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Tony Smith Blog!: All change in the Linux world. .::. Size~: 61.08 KBNov 11 19:22
schestowitzhttp://www.muktware.com/articles/2929Nov 11 19:26
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/jaimealsilva/statuses/134857678194343936Nov 11 19:26
TechrightsBot-tr@jaimealsilva: RT @pehjota Nice, B&N & Cravath working w/ DoJ anti-trust lawyer to build case. I await the day when DoJ re-splits MSFT for #swpat troll ...Nov 11 19:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Marshall Kirkpatrick launches his own company, will be selling a data platform he calls the Plexus Engine: http://ur1.ca/5r3uhNov 11 19:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] You load sixteen tons what do you get another day older and deeper in debt.Nov 11 19:30
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/790545 "oh WOW Fuck reah! "Nov 11 19:42
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schestowitzabout MintNov 11 19:42
schestowitzSeems to have gained great popularityNov 11 19:42
schestowitzShowingf the power of forksNov 11 19:42
MinceRwho's this "reah"?Nov 11 19:42
MinceRmint developer?Nov 11 19:42
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schestowitzAnd how they undo bad decisions like unityNov 11 19:42
schestowitzMinceR: no idea.Nov 11 19:42
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schestowitz"Without my glasses, Marilyn appears - with glasses Albert emerges. lol " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/789581Nov 11 19:43
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schestowitzThat ought to depend on distance and monitor sizeNov 11 19:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Oracle has restored Sun blogs but dressed them up completely as Oracle's.Nov 11 19:45
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/85159274http://identi.ca/notice/85159301Nov 11 19:46
TechrightsBot-trNot a dent?Nov 11 19:46
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/85159274 http://identi.ca/notice/85159301Nov 11 19:46
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/85158687 http://identi.ca/notice/85158835Nov 11 19:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @fsf Amazing coalition forms to fight blacklist bill - American Censorship Day: 11/16 http://ur1.ca/5qk5a !fsf !gnuNov 11 19:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] From that limited data I am not able to work out the arithmetic progression.Nov 11 19:55
schestowitz"I've been watching Larry for a *lot* of years. Sharp businessman that sales close to the edge of Open Source, but never completely drops off. There were good reasons for the Libreoffice split. Philosophical ones imposed by Ellison, apparently. " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/790779Nov 11 19:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Just looked them up, when the drummer reforms the band it is not a good sign.Nov 11 19:59
MinceRmore like a barbarian who destroys everything he touchesNov 11 19:59
MinceRwildly flailing around, hoping to wrench immediate profit out of anything, even if it's destroyed in the processNov 11 20:00
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schestowitzAre we talking abut Steve Jobs, still?Nov 11 20:03
MinceR:>Nov 11 20:03
Diablo-D3wait, what?Nov 11 20:03
Diablo-D3thats more monkeyboy from microsoftNov 11 20:04
MinceRi was referring to Law Suit LarryNov 11 20:04
schestowitz!google jobs fucking theromonuclearNov 11 20:04
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Here Comes Apple's Real Thermonuclear War Against Google | Cult ... | http://www.cultofmac.com/128254/here-comes-apples-real-thermonuclear-war-against-google/Nov 11 20:04
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schestowitzDiablo-D3: Bob reincarnated as a monkey?Nov 11 20:06
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Diablo-D3did I mention I hate math?Nov 11 20:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I can see fun & games ahead in teams from recent conflict areas upsetting folks by "honouring their dead" "but the English did it" !footballNov 11 20:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] True. That was also drummist of me. So much music so little time.Nov 11 20:09
schestowitzDiablo-D3: math is not a personNov 11 20:09
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schestowitzMaybe you are not good at mathNov 11 20:09
schestowitznot a matter of love or hateNov 11 20:10
MinceRit's possible to hate math, but i don't see any point to itNov 11 20:10
schestowitzFor some people saying that they "hate" something is the excuse to explain why they are not good at itNov 11 20:10
schestowitzRather than the oppositeNov 11 20:10
Diablo-D3because I'm using wavelets.Nov 11 20:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Good point.Nov 11 20:10
Diablo-D3And I very much do hate math.Nov 11 20:10
schestowitzAs in, hating what they fail itNov 11 20:11
schestowitz*atNov 11 20:11
schestowitzMinceR: math is not a conerete thingNov 11 20:11
schestowitzIt's like hating loveNov 11 20:11
schestowitzOr hating angerNov 11 20:11
*MinceR shrugsNov 11 20:11
schestowitzhating planet Earth is possibeNov 11 20:11
schestowitzYou can a least visualise the relationshipNov 11 20:12
schestowitzBut hating gravity would be more sillyNov 11 20:12
MinceRi can visualize all of thoseNov 11 20:12
schestowitzCan you visualise spirit and math?Nov 11 20:12
MinceRyesNov 11 20:12
schestowitzWe don't have tools to do such mystical stuffNov 11 20:12
MinceRsay, as items in a block diagramNov 11 20:12
schestowitzwhat about axioms/Nov 11 20:13
MinceRor items on a list titled "things i hate"Nov 11 20:13
cubezzzsometimes I hear people say they "hate computers"Nov 11 20:14
schestowitzIt's possibleNov 11 20:14
schestowitzThey can suggest a better modelNov 11 20:14
schestowitzLike..Nov 11 20:14
schestowitzno memoryNov 11 20:14
schestowitzThey probably hate what the programs run and outputNov 11 20:14
cubezzzit's a broad generalizationNov 11 20:15
schestowitzOur bain is like a parallel computerNov 11 20:15
schestowitzMaybe they hate those tooNov 11 20:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] VLC graphic equaliser pre sets. Some of them are not very good.Nov 11 20:15
cubezzzthere's no doubt that different people have different abilitiesNov 11 20:15
schestowitzVery different model from what's on the moboNov 11 20:15
cubezzzA bad teacher can really sour one on mathematicsNov 11 20:16
cubezzzwhich is commonNov 11 20:16
cubezzzyeah, we never got the Star Trek computer :)Nov 11 20:16
cubezzzinstead we got the crappy computerNov 11 20:17
cubezzzthings haven't changed too much since the amiga eraNov 11 20:18
cubezzzwe are still basically doing things the same wayNov 11 20:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat Co-Founder’s Latest Venture Prepares to Battle Amazon http://is.gd/gF6vkV #redhat #amazonNov 11 20:19
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cubezzzgraphics and memory are better, but no conceptual changesNov 11 20:19
MinceRwe have memory protectionNov 11 20:20
cubezzzamiga had that tooNov 11 20:20
MinceRno it didn'tNov 11 20:20
MinceRwe also have multiuser systems as our personal computersNov 11 20:20
cubezzzit did, in certain modelsNov 11 20:20
MinceRright, and not under amigaosNov 11 20:20
cubezzzyou can run netbsd on amiga 3000Nov 11 20:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Sabayon Releases Even More Choice http://ur1.ca/5r4j7 #gentoo #sabayonNov 11 20:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fedora/@fedora] Fedora Scholarship Recognizes Students for Their Contributions to Open Source Software http://2tu.us/3ljfNov 11 20:20
cubezzzyeahNov 11 20:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sabayon Releases Even More Choice .::. Size~: 34.28 KBNov 11 20:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: redhat.com | Fedora Scholarship Recognizes Students for Their Contributions to Open Source Software .::. Size~: 380.63 KBNov 11 20:20
MinceRso much for it being "amiga"Nov 11 20:20
MinceRwe also carry computers in our pocketsNov 11 20:21
MinceRwe have computers that regularly or constantly connect to a worldwide networkNov 11 20:21
MinceRwe have free software :)Nov 11 20:21
MinceRi'd say there were great changesNov 11 20:21
MinceRthat said, i don't know what the Star Trek computer was likeNov 11 20:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] LinuxMint 12 Lisa first Look | Screenshots Tour http://ur1.ca/5r4k3... http://b1t.it/TykNov 11 20:22
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MinceRunless it was like this >> (flash) (video) (audio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r36TcG5XZDgNov 11 20:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Data From Star trek TNG gets the blue screen of death (BSOD)       - YouTube .::. Size~: 91.64 KBNov 11 20:22
MinceR:>Nov 11 20:22
cubezzzMinceR, you could talk to it like another personNov 11 20:22
MinceRit's not an easy task, but we're getting thereNov 11 20:23
cubezzzI'm not saying amigados was perfect, but the basics were thereNov 11 20:23
cubezzzthe WIMP interfaceNov 11 20:24
MinceRit was always a very gradual developmentNov 11 20:24
MinceRthe WIMP interface was there in Engelbart's concept, the Alto, the Star and in Smalltalk too :>Nov 11 20:24
cubezzzAlto had pulldown menus?Nov 11 20:24
MinceRnot sureNov 11 20:25
MinceREngelbart's concept had popup menusNov 11 20:25
MinceRi prefer those to pulldown menus, actuallyNov 11 20:25
cubezzzwell, at least computers are cheaper nowNov 11 20:25
MinceRthey're where you need them :>Nov 11 20:25
cubezzzAmiga 3000 was over $3000Nov 11 20:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Red Hat Co-Founder’s Latest Venture Prepares to Battle Amazon - http://bloom.bg/v4k0Jl typical upbeat stuff from Bob Young (v @schestowitz)Nov 11 20:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat Co-Founder’s Latest Venture Prepares to Battle Amazon - Bloomberg .::. Size~: 126.24 KBNov 11 20:25
MinceRwhat does the scouter say about its price tag?Nov 11 20:25
cubezzzoriginal price: $3,379 US dollarsNov 11 20:26
cubezzzwhat is scouter?Nov 11 20:26
cubezzzah, the p was pointing device, not pulldown Nov 11 20:27
MinceRcubezzz: (flash) (video) (audio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiMHTK15PikNov 11 20:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Its Over 9000!!! [Original Video and Audio]       - YouTube .::. Size~: 93.24 KBNov 11 20:27
cubezzzand the amiga 3000 had an MMUNov 11 20:28
cubezzzused in AmixNov 11 20:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New Chinese govt crackdown forces reporters to verify news from Internet - http://tnw.co/vSSX3X won't this just make trad media boring?Nov 11 20:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Chinese government cracks down on media reporting 'unverified' rumours .::. Size~: 110.37 KBNov 11 20:29
cubezzzhahahaNov 11 20:30
MinceR7Nov 11 20:30
MinceRoops, wrong windowNov 11 20:30
Diablo-D3damnit why cant china rule faux newsNov 11 20:31
cubezzzI'm not sure if computers are still decreasing in priceNov 11 20:33
cubezzzin 1985 Canadian Tire was selling the c64 for $200Nov 11 20:33
MinceRthings like Raspberry Pi and that cheap indian computer would indicate that they areNov 11 20:33
Diablo-D3cubezzz: adjust for inflationNov 11 20:34
cubezzzI guess if you take inflation into account though... yeahNov 11 20:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] TurboHercules case dropped? FUDpatents doesn't care anymore, I guess? http://ur1.ca/5r4pc... http://b1t.it/TyyNov 11 20:34
Diablo-D3and then adjust for computational powerNov 11 20:34
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - TurboHercules case dropped? FUDpatents doesn&#39;t care… .::. Size~: 44.93 KBNov 11 20:34
MinceReven mobile phones :>Nov 11 20:34
Diablo-D31/100th of an iphone landed on the moonNov 11 20:35
MinceRit exploded with such force?Nov 11 20:35
MinceRbadum tishNov 11 20:35
cubezzzmight have even been less than 1/100thNov 11 20:35
cubezzzthat's late 60's techNov 11 20:35
MinceR3Nov 11 20:36
MinceRagain, wrong windowNov 11 20:36
cubezzzlet's see how much $200 in 1985 dollars is nowNov 11 20:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] 1st url lost in confusion.Nov 11 20:37
cubezzzhmm, about $400 or doubleNov 11 20:37
MinceRRaspberry Pi says they'll sell their box for $25Nov 11 20:41
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cubezzzeven adjusting for inflation, getting a c64 computer in 1985 was pretty goodNov 11 20:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF asks the Supreme Court to end the FCC's indecency regulations for broadcast television https://eff.org/r.G6gNov 11 20:47
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/135090337134804992?iid=am-150023031913210430210077068&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Nov 11 20:52
TechrightsBot-tr@glynmoody: Red Hat Co-Founder’s Latest Venture Prepares to Battle Amazon - http://t.co/PYRdhtzr typical upbeat stuff from Bob Young (v @schestowitz)Nov 11 20:52
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schestowitzlulu is a bad nameNov 11 20:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What’s in a name? The meaning behind #Kororaa http://ur1.ca/5r4vl #fedoraNov 11 20:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What’s in a name? The meaning behind Kororaa | Kororaa Linux .::. Size~: 19.41 KBNov 11 20:52
MinceRyeah, should be "lulz" insteadNov 11 20:52
schestowitzlolNov 11 20:53
schestowitz"I'm interested in the Fedora community's feedback on the readiness state of BTRFS as it is touted to be the upcoming default for Debian also. " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/790554Nov 11 20:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] UE À Beira De Um "Grave Apocalipse Financeiro" - YouTube #eu #collapse http://ur1.ca/5r4w8Nov 11 20:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: UE À Beira De Um "Grave Apocalispse Financeiro"       - YouTube .::. Size~: 83.94 KBNov 11 20:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New Yorker, Wired and More Coming Free to Kindle Fire for 3 Months - http://on.mash.to/vSJaba clearly pleased to have alternative to iPadNov 11 20:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: New Yorker, Wired and More Coming Free to Kindle Fire for 3 Months .::. Size~: 92.84 KBNov 11 20:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] MT @phylogenomics WTF? Nucleic Acids Research & OUP has "unfreed" papers that once were free like this '94 paper by me shar.es/bN7l1 >>badNov 11 21:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Gerald #Celente: Acabemos com esta farsa de demoracia - YouTube #pseudodemocracy #bankingsystem http://ur1.ca/5r536Nov 11 21:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Gerald Celente: Acabemos com esta farsa de demoracia       - YouTube .::. Size~: 83.89 KBNov 11 21:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Thanks & thanks :)Nov 11 21:07
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schestowitzLOL http://www.pcworld.com/article/243579/stop_windows_from_rebooting_after_automatic_updates_2011_edition.htmlNov 11 21:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Stop Windows from Rebooting After Automatic Updates, 2011 Edition | PCWorld .::. Size~: 85.26 KBNov 11 21:14
schestowitzWHose Computer Is It Anyway?Nov 11 21:14
MinceRi can stop it from doing that all rightNov 11 21:17
schestowitzMicrosoft commands OEMs to shackle Windows (preinstall Windoiws)Nov 11 21:17
schestowitzThen it gives end users (like left overs) a mouse in keyboard to feel like they're in chargeNov 11 21:18
schestowitzSame with mobile carrierNov 11 21:18
cubezzzI feel so nostalgic hearing about windows probsNov 11 21:18
cubezzz... NOTNov 11 21:18
schestowitzGive em some games, tunes, etc., then eavesdrop on location, calls, etc.Nov 11 21:18
schestowitzI had the register a mobile some days agoNov 11 21:18
schestowitzAnd they even phone up to verify personal details and suchNov 11 21:18
schestowitzeven when you don't sign a contractNov 11 21:18
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/10/kansas_it_honcho_found_faking_cv_resigns/Nov 11 21:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kansas IT boss found faking CV resigns • The Register .::. Size~: 25.89 KBNov 11 21:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] A Hipocrisia dos Políticos (I) - YouTube #direitosadquiridos do Ângelo http://ur1.ca/5r5cdNov 11 21:20
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/85122872Nov 11 21:24
TechrightsBot-tr@OVigia (ovigia)'s status on Thursday, 10-Nov-11 23:59:06 UTC - Identi.ca: RT @fsf Amazing coalition forms to fight blacklist bill - American Censorship Day: 11/16 http://ur1.ca/5qk5a !fsf !gnuNov 11 21:24
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: American Censorship Day .::. Size~: 10.68 KBNov 11 21:24
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/85162645Nov 11 21:26
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-11 21:07:02 UTC - Identi.ca: #Fedora 14 nears its end of life http://is.gd/LnPXc1  Fedora needs LTS releases. It has only been 1 year! I put it on some desktops.Nov 11 21:26
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Fedora 14 nears its end of life - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.44 KBNov 11 21:26
MinceRi think they call those "RHEL" ;)Nov 11 21:27
schestowitzyeahNov 11 21:28
schestowitzupsellingNov 11 21:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Just pulling your leg.Nov 11 21:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @cwebber Today is "reply with comics" day http://angryflower.com/starcr.html < great punchline #humourNov 11 21:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Man, Economy, and State, with Power and Market - Murray N. Rothbard - #Mises Institute - #economics http://goo.gl/GLw1Nov 11 21:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Man, Economy, and State, with Power and Market - Murray N. Rothbard - Mises Institute .::. Size~: 52.41 KBNov 11 21:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Human Action - Ludwig von Mises - #Mises Institute - #economics #books http://goo.gl/kBZELNov 11 21:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Don't you ever forget yourself lowering all your standards. New religion anybody?Nov 11 21:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Browse by ebook (.epub) :: #Mises Institute - #economics #books http://mises.org/epubNov 11 21:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Human Action - Ludwig von Mises - Mises Institute .::. Size~: 47.42 KBNov 11 21:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Browse by ebook (.epub) :: Mises Institute .::. Size~: 170.49 KBNov 11 21:50
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/MichelEnLaRed/statuses/135080927796797441Nov 11 21:52
TechrightsBot-tr@MichelEnLaRed: @schestowitz eso es solo un intento de evitar la muerte de lo que ya murió :)Nov 11 21:52
schestowitz?>>Nov 11 21:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody Can Defenders Of SOPA Explain How You Define Taking Deliberate Action To Avoid Taking Action? - http://bit.ly/u6F5KZ truly ...Nov 11 21:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] What do you mean?Nov 11 21:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #PartedMagic 11.11.11 is Released http://ur1.ca/5r618Nov 11 22:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Parted Magic 11.11.11 brings Linux 3.1 - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.41 KBNov 11 22:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Police falsely claimed they found explosive HTMD & detonator to get another warrant from judge http://ur1.ca/5r5ip !FreeByron !CDNpoli #G20Nov 11 22:04
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schestowitzhttp://deviceguru.com/logitech-drops-google-tv/Nov 11 22:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] When you can tell someone to shut up about a Trappist ale and the joke is lost.......Nov 11 22:07
-RichiH-[Global Notice] Hi all. We wish you a very verily merry merrily 11:11:11 11.11.11-11! Crank it up to eleven and here's to hoping the world will not end in 2012; as always, thanks for flying freenode air!Nov 11 22:11
schestowitzhttp://www.androidcentral.com/google-reminds-app-inventor-shutting-down-end-year-download-your-projects-nowNov 11 22:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google reminds us App Inventor shutting down at end of year, download your projects now | Android Central .::. Size~: 108.42 KBNov 11 22:14
schestowitz11:11 an hour away hereNov 11 22:14
schestowitz2 hours for central EuropeNov 11 22:14
MinceRno, that's 23:11Nov 11 22:15
MinceR11:11 happened hours agoNov 11 22:15
schestowitzI knowNov 11 22:15
schestowitzBut some people were at workNov 11 22:15
schestowitzand not celebrating outNov 11 22:15
MinceRactually it's 23:14 nowNov 11 22:15
schestowitzI was asleepNov 11 22:15
schestowitzoh, oopsNov 11 22:15
schestowitzmy debian box has the time set wrongNov 11 22:16
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/rationalists/status/134757742916280320Nov 11 22:17
TechrightsBot-tr@rationalists: The luckiest man in America might be the 3rd person Rick Perry has to execute today.Nov 11 22:17
MinceRwith an A! for America! and iowA!Nov 11 22:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Downloads will mean that libraries and people are owned by corporations.Nov 11 22:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] A Anatomia do Estado - #books http://ur1.ca/5r6bnNov 11 22:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A Anatomia do Estado .::. Size~: 36.54 KBNov 11 22:22
schestowitzMPAANov 11 22:24
schestowitzA at end is usually AmericaNov 11 22:24
MinceR:>Nov 11 22:24
schestowitzIt refers only to the US thoughNov 11 22:24
MinceRthe A in pArry is not at the end thoughNov 11 22:24
schestowitzThe country pretends to be a while continentNov 11 22:24
MinceRthe country pretends to be the world, that isNov 11 22:24
schestowitzDick Parry?Nov 11 22:25
schestowitzMinceR: it doesn't pretendNov 11 22:25
schestowitzit isNov 11 22:25
schestowitz:-)Nov 11 22:25
schestowitzAnd if you opposeNov 11 22:25
schestowitzBe carefulNov 11 22:25
schestowitzCause they'll bring democracy to your countryNov 11 22:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] If you are happy and aware of what is happening around you and as long as you do not hurt anyone, Good luck to you and those you love.Nov 11 22:25
schestowitzWarm treatmentNov 11 22:25
schestowitza bit *too* warmNov 11 22:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 11 shocking things you now realize to be true (but you never would have believed just three years ago) - #naturalnews http://goo.gl/vdrzYNov 11 22:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 11 shocking things you now realize to be true (but you never would have believed just three years ago) .::. Size~: 79.32 KBNov 11 22:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz LinuxMint 12 Lisa first Look | Screenshots Tour http://ur1.ca/5r4k3... http://b1t.it/TykNov 11 22:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Warner Bros: we issued takedowns for files we never saw, didn't own copyright to http://is.gd/h4iPsp sense of entitlement, owing the WWW?Nov 11 22:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Police arbitrarily detained/questioned/threatened false charges 2 coerce !FreeByron ID ~1st Charter violations http://ur1.ca/5olvi <fixedURLNov 11 22:30
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Byron Sonne: Trial set to start for man accused of plotting attack against Toronto G20 summit | Posted Toronto | National Post .::. Size~: 79.71 KBNov 11 22:30
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/85164943 http://identi.ca/notice/85164521Nov 11 22:31
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-11 22:27:57 UTC - Identi.ca: Crackers Hijack Millions of Computers in ‘Massive’ Fraud Case http://is.gd/bM1nxb no computer was hijacked, just *Windows*.Nov 11 22:31
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TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-11 22:11:43 UTC - Identi.ca: Koch's Americans for Prosperity Fails in Effort to Smear Critic http://is.gd/gU1SLD  #astroturf #kochNov 11 22:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I am making the distinction between buying books and licenses.Nov 11 22:32
schestowitztessier: http://www.linuxforum.com/content.php/120-aNag-Android-Nagios-appNov 11 22:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Forums - aNag - Android Nagios app .::. Size~: 48.77 KBNov 11 22:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] The headache that is AT commands on #huawei modemsNov 11 22:37
schestowitzhttp://www.insidesocal.com/click/2011/11/could-i-believe-in-evolution-i.htmlNov 11 22:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Could I believe in Evolution? I go deeper into GNOME - CLICK .::. Size~: 36.09 KBNov 11 22:37
schestowitzLOLNov 11 22:37
schestowitzIt's a ximian projectNov 11 22:37
schestowitzWhen you cross over to mono land, you can't believe in evolutionNov 11 22:38
schestowitzIt's all ideaologyNov 11 22:38
schestowitzAnd Microsoft CreationismNov 11 22:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] My local library thinks that books are paper. I engaged with them years ago to wake up. No joy at all.Nov 11 22:40
schestowitz"But... I absolutely WANT it! " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/791516Nov 11 22:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] When you decide sleep tight.Nov 11 22:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz Warner Bros: we issued takedowns for files we never saw, didn't own copyright to http://is.gd/h4iPsp sense of entitlemen ...Nov 11 23:07
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/85165619Nov 11 23:12
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-11 22:47:50 UTC - Identi.ca: Details Arrive About Next #KDE http://ur1.ca/5r6pl #plasmaNov 11 23:12
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MinceRgnNov 11 23:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] We need to affirm or realise the weakness of competition. Do you want to fight your neighbours for a minor advatage and then live with them?Nov 11 23:24
schestowitz"Take them down for defamation and cover that in the media. Should even get some limited coverage in MSM. " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/791799Nov 11 23:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] sleep well @marjoleinkNov 11 23:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 11/11/2011: Vodafone Ubuntu Webbook, Parted Magic 11.11.11 http://is.gd/w5DOeC #techrightsNov 11 23:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 11/11/2011: Vodafone Ubuntu Webbook, Parted Magic 11.11.11 http://is.gd/w5DOeC !techrightsNov 11 23:40
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 11/11/2011: Vodafone Ubuntu Webbook, Parted Magic 11.11.11 | Techrights .::. Size~: 128.34 KBNov 11 23:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Rain from Scotland to the south of England that does not happen often.Nov 11 23:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Rd @psema4 Pirate Politics in !Canada is out! http://ur1.ca/3ztvf !CanadaNov 11 23:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Pirate Politics in Canada .::. Size~: 21.79 KBNov 11 23:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] We appear to be having a rainy season in Canada at the moment as well.Nov 11 23:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] First they built the rules then they built the rulers.Nov 11 23:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Snow to look forward to.Nov 11 23:55

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