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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] communism's failure continues: those who suffered under it to this day can not tell the difference between freedom and reasonableness. | Nov 12 00:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I agree close to 100% and if in particular cases individuals want it to be all about them then good riddance to G+. | Nov 12 00:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] every time i read "i suffered under communism, so i am very sensitive to.." i think "well, this generation too will die" | Nov 12 00:15 | |
| schestowitz | I don;t quite get it | Nov 12 00:16 |
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| schestowitz | Seems like nihilism from seigo..? | Nov 12 00:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] People across the united kingdom have observed 2 minutes silence today on the 11th of November according to the BBC. Not all of us FUCK OFF. | Nov 12 00:27 | |
| Diablo-D3 | hey guys, did you know /join 0 parts all channels? | Nov 12 00:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Try not to get shot. | Nov 12 00:32 | |
| schestowitz | join da club | Nov 12 00:33 |
| schestowitz | srly though, I guess it's a magic command then, what others are there? | Nov 12 00:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Open64 5.0 released http://ur1.ca/5r0kp "Open64 is a GPLv2-licensed compiler for the x86 and Itanium architectures" | Nov 12 00:39 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/791872 | Nov 12 00:47 |
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| schestowitz | " | Nov 12 00:47 |
| schestowitz | According to the FBI information, the DNS hijack bot also had code to guess passwords to NAT boxes by using default passwords but that's not a proper hijack and it's That too could be used to misdirect people at coffee shops and what not. That's why I put my home network behind a gnu/linux box instead of a commercial "router" and I run my own DNS. The FBI also tells Mac users how to look at their DNS settings, but no mention of what | Nov 12 00:47 |
| schestowitz | systems the actual malware infests is made. Chances are that it's all Windows as usual. | Nov 12 00:47 |
| schestowitz | Bloomberg should be ashamed of not mentioning Windows but they might have gotten their clue from the FBI information. | Nov 12 00:47 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 12 00:47 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/85168433 http://identi.ca/notice/85168402 http://identi.ca/notice/85168398 | Nov 12 00:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Saturday, 12-Nov-11 00:35:27 UTC - Identi.ca: The Near-Death of Blog Search http://ur1.ca/5r8ev need better tools | Nov 12 00:47 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Saturday, 12-Nov-11 00:34:03 UTC - Identi.ca: On the Jobs Front, Open Source Skills Remain in Demand http://ur1.ca/5r8e6 | Nov 12 00:47 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Saturday, 12-Nov-11 00:33:57 UTC - Identi.ca: The WikiLeaks-Fueled Erosion of Civil Liberties Has Begun http://is.gd/BrZbV1 #oppression #1984 | Nov 12 00:47 |
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| schestowitz | ""Ordered to step aside". Get used to this attitude, folks." http://joindiaspora.com/posts/792594 | Nov 12 00:48 |
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| schestowitz | "I liked #Sabayon but I don't trust it... " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/791060 | Nov 12 01:11 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: Zeit-Online-Interview: Bibliotheken sollten ihre [{Meta-, bibliographischen}] Daten öffnen http://t.co/MG http://p.ost.im/p/eByxb7 | Nov 12 01:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: Nina Paley: How to Free your Work http://t.co/v2TNroU5 #openculture vademecum for interested artists http://p.ost.im/p/eBCEU9 | Nov 12 01:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @cyberkiller @klanger we still have an active geek land here :-) !identica - the microblogging service for geeks ;-) | Nov 12 01:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Firefox releases get smaller, as do Internet Explorer cakes - GeekWire #funny http://goo.gl/tvLiu | Nov 12 01:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] plus I've never heard of someone pulling off the active updates outside of *.status.net or identi.ca | Nov 12 01:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] i will have as great a weekend as I can manage with novelling up to my eyeballs, thank you @parlementum ... read something good | Nov 12 01:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @jankusanagi What he doesn't understand is that there are different things on the menu. | Nov 12 01:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Had some today: http://identi.ca/attachment/56653159 | Nov 12 01:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] yeah, my patch did end up in kernel 3.1, https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.0/ChangeLog-3.1 | Nov 12 01:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #WTF? - Trunk.ly has now been acquired by AVOS (Delicious.com)! Read more here. We will continue to operate until January the 13th 2012 | Nov 12 01:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Bernanke Says That Any Criticism Of The Federal Reserve Is Based On “Misconceptions” - RIGHHHHTTT! #endthefed #crooks http://goo.gl/U9hzk | Nov 12 01:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Full 24 hours of F16 and I am enjoying it. Snappier than F15. Perhaps the 3.1 kernel is kicking butt! | Nov 12 02:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] AUdACiOuS: A Biological Cell Operating System - #scitek http://goo.gl/pu0AP | Nov 12 02:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @jankusanagi Why bother if it will die after you leave? Doesn't require intent; for the self-involved what happens elsewhere is unimportant. | Nov 12 02:27 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RRiqOX6ZsY&feature=topvideos_entertainment | Nov 12 03:14 |
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| DaemonFC | Angry Birds couch pillows... | Nov 12 03:14 |
| DaemonFC | do want | Nov 12 03:14 |
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| *DaemonFC throws the bomb bird pillow at jono | Nov 12 03:17 | |
| DaemonFC | and that's for Unity | Nov 12 03:17 |
| *DaemonFC finishes him with a mirv bird for Mono, Banshee, and Tomboy | Nov 12 03:17 | |
| DaemonFC | :D | Nov 12 03:18 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @sudaraka Yesterday was a special day, not because it was 11.11.11, because pacman -Syu said "there is nothing to do" !arch | Nov 12 04:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @harishpillay Full 24 hours of F16 and I am enjoying it. Snappier than F15. Perhaps the 3.1 kernel is kicking butt! | Nov 12 04:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Second US judge gives feds access to WikiLeaks-related Twitter accounts for Assange espionage investigation http://t.co/gJ1qOudR | Nov 12 04:32 | |
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| DaemonFC | UAVs | Nov 12 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Nov 12 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | sent them to take out a wall just to get a screenshot | Nov 12 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | the taxpayers will cover it | Nov 12 04:40 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: It seems like we are welcoming a new graphic talent at @iRail. A late follow Friday for @choisissez! #FF | Nov 12 06:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @greetd @iRail @choisissez concurrentie? Nee nee, samenwerken enzo! ;) | Nov 12 06:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Two new #stable #linux #kernel are out: 3.0.9 http://bit.ly/uO0sV7 http://bit.ly/vuY4IK #mustupgrade | Nov 12 06:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Scott Olsen, Marine vet injured by police at #Occupy Oakland, is released from hospital http://identi.ca/url/56664105 | Nov 12 07:39 | |
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| DaemonFC | from two sources, I figured that Catalyst 11.11 will support X.org server 1.11 (meaning Fedora 16) | Nov 12 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | will support OpenGL 4.2 | Nov 12 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | and will be out next week | Nov 12 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | they also worked on their cross platform OpenGL driver to squeeze some more performance out of it (because of RAGE on Windows) | Nov 12 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | this probably also means they had to fix some bugs this month, because RAGE is literally using every OpenGL 4.x feature there is | Nov 12 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | It makes so much sense that RAGE is targeting OpenGL 4.2 on Windows if you think about the clusterfuck situation Microsoft has made regarding DirectX | Nov 12 07:59 |
| DaemonFC | XP won't run DirectX 10/11, but it will run OpenGL 4.2 if your video driver has an ICD for it | Nov 12 07:59 |
| DaemonFC | Vista won't run DirectX 11 without a massive Platform Update (which is almost a GB to download and takes over an hour to install) | Nov 12 08:00 |
| DaemonFC | And as with most Microsoft updates of that magnitude, a significant number of Vista users claim their system failed to restart after that and they lost everything | Nov 12 08:00 |
| DaemonFC | and Windows 7, which supports DirectX 11, is on about ~20% of Windows desktop computers | Nov 12 08:01 |
| DaemonFC | so unless they want nearly 80% of Windows users definitely unable or probably unable to run RAGE, they target OpenGL, if they want modern graphics API features | Nov 12 08:01 |
| schestowitz | :/ | Nov 12 08:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Fair Trials International has launched a campaign against pre-trial detention in the EU. http://t.co/uHAdR0tl | Nov 12 08:40 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/782059 | Nov 12 08:42 |
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| schestowitz | "@Will Hill - Jeeze. I can't get over how much that first photo looks like my daughter. I hope she's doing better now and that she manages to forget that day (or grow into an activist who rights it). I wonder if one day our grand children will look back at this time as we do at pre-world war one Germany..." | Nov 12 08:42 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 12 08:42 |
| schestowitz | She's doing well, thanks. | Nov 12 08:42 |
| schestowitz | I'm afraid the day is woven into her subconscious. I'll share it with her again when it seems appropriate. We must all tell people that unreasonable invasions are wrong. | Nov 12 08:42 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 12 08:42 |
| schestowitz | Not to mention, the radiation emitted from the 'scanners' will cause far more cancer deaths (long term) than all airborne terrorism combined. | Nov 12 08:43 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/793991 | Nov 12 08:45 |
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| schestowitz | LOL | Nov 12 08:45 |
| schestowitz | Art degree | Nov 12 08:45 |
| zoobab | http://eplaw.org/Downloads/EPLAW%20Resolution%20on%20Regulation%2029%20Oct%202011.doc | Nov 12 08:45 |
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| zoobab | patent judges wants EU monopoly over patent law | Nov 12 08:45 |
| zoobab | sorry word document | Nov 12 08:46 |
| schestowitz | I don't really have a problem with people who study art. I have a problem with people who study litigation and banking, among other meta-industries. | Nov 12 08:46 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: I watched this last night | Nov 12 08:46 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3u9LB32YYM&NR=1 | Nov 12 08:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Europe needs a revolution - YouTube .::. Size~: 104.78 KB | Nov 12 08:46 |
| schestowitz | This is a UKIP supporter (somewhat radical) | Nov 12 08:47 |
| schestowitz | But UI agree with him about the union being an excuse to pass new "harmonisation" (as he calls them) laws to avoid people from voting on ridiculous stuff | Nov 12 08:47 |
| schestowitz | like patents | Nov 12 08:47 |
| schestowitz | If it's a Word document, can you make plain text version | Nov 12 08:48 |
| schestowitz | Or should I? | Nov 12 08:48 |
| zoobab | do it | Nov 12 08:49 |
| schestowitz | ok | Nov 12 08:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Red Hat Co-Founder’s Latest Venture Prepares to Battle Amazon http://ur1.ca/5rg13 #redhat #gnu #linux #amazon #software | Nov 12 08:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Court Rules Against WikiLeakers: Private Twitter Data Isn't Secret, Government Orders Are http://t.co/9zKvKmyM | Nov 12 08:50 | |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/kgerloff/status/134892305353146368 | Nov 12 08:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @kgerloff: Barnes & Noble: Microsoft trying to make #android as expensive as Windows Mobile through patent extortion http://t.co/wowcBM2O | Nov 12 08:51 |
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| schestowitz | zoobab: the president of the FSFE calls it "extortion" | Nov 12 08:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Your new avi reminds me of the man in the moon from a sketch show I can't remember the name of. | Nov 12 08:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Medaliile Regelui Mihai… http://ur1.ca/5rg21 #romania #king #monarchy #europe | Nov 12 08:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] În slujba voastră în toate timpurile http://ur1.ca/5rg36 #romania #europe #king #monarchy | Nov 12 08:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] That has reminded me of a photo I was sent of snow in an Athens back yard. Not so unusual in your neck of the woods. | Nov 12 08:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @harishpillay Full 24 hours of F16 and I am enjoying it. Snappier than F15. Perhaps the 3.1 kernel is kicking butt! | Nov 12 09:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz #Open64 5.0 released http://ur1.ca/5r0kp "Open64 is a GPLv2-licensed compiler for the x86 and Itanium architectures" | Nov 12 09:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #LEO: Celebrating The Pioneers - http://bit.ly/v72j5s 60 years ago UK led the world in computing; now look at us... | Nov 12 09:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Google-backed internet institute raises eyebrows - http://bit.ly/t2iw7s based in #berlin #(v @evgenymorozov) | Nov 12 09:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Feds Can Get Twitter Users' Data Without Warrant, Judge Says http://t.co/OIwa73La stop it! http://t.co/cFIdfbcW | Nov 12 09:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] S-a lansat Firefox 8.0 http://ur1.ca/5rgnn #mozilla #web #browser #firefox | Nov 12 09:34 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: What's wrong with opening a DOC and turning it into ODF or plain text or something? | Nov 12 09:35 |
| DaemonFC | that's basically why import filters for MS formats are there | Nov 12 09:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Linux Mint: The new Ubuntu? http://ur1.ca/5r49x #mint #gnu #linux #ubuntu #desktop #software | Nov 12 09:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I thought so. Nothing wrong with that. | Nov 12 09:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Approving the GM potato: conflicts of interest, flawed science and fierce lobbying - http://bit.ly/vLs2ro shabby stuff: more sunlight needed | Nov 12 09:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] LIVE: Michael Moore, Naomi Klein, others discuss ‘Occupy Wall Street’ http://t.co/9X9iPN2H | Nov 12 09:40 | |
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| amarsh04 | back in a few... | Nov 12 09:43 |
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| schestowitz | The company Mac Asay is in liaises with partly MS-owned FB http://blog.strobecorp.com/?p=304 | Nov 12 09:47 |
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| schestowitz | LOL | Nov 12 09:47 |
| schestowitz | "open source" | Nov 12 09:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Open Source/Free Software – unind comunităţile http://ur1.ca/5rguh #romania #software #linux #windows | Nov 12 09:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Shanghai Gets Supersized - http://bit.ly/s5P5me evocative piece about an amazing city; don't miss the pix #china | Nov 12 09:47 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: dunno | Nov 12 09:47 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Behind the headlines: illegally downloaded games 'up 20% in five years' - http://bit.ly/w3jvik excellent points #fud | Nov 12 09:49 | |
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| schestowitz | MS Florian still sells a story so hard to swallow | Nov 12 09:49 |
| schestowitz | That Googlr is evil for being a victim | Nov 12 09:49 |
| schestowitz | He makes an arse out of himself | Nov 12 09:49 |
| schestowitz | For those who didn't know what he was already | Nov 12 09:50 |
| iophk | You can tell what he's going to write just by which companies are involved in the story. | Nov 12 09:50 |
| schestowitz | He oughtn't be quoted | Nov 12 09:52 |
| schestowitz | He's a lobbyist working for one of the companies involved | Nov 12 09:52 |
| schestowitz | And he comment about their competitors too | Nov 12 09:53 |
| schestowitz | It's another Enderle | Nov 12 09:53 |
| schestowitz | He keeps replying to me in identica | Nov 12 09:53 |
| schestowitz | although he knows I don't speak to him | Nov 12 09:53 |
| schestowitz | From yesterday: | Nov 12 09:53 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/85113390 https://identi.ca/notice/85113425 https://identi.ca/notice/85113456 | Nov 12 09:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Florian Mueller (fosspatents)'s status on Thursday, 10-Nov-11 19:09:27 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Two remarks about your reference to me as "the Microsoft lobbyist". One, I never did any lobbying for MSFT. Ever. | Nov 12 09:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Florian Mueller (fosspatents)'s status on Thursday, 10-Nov-11 19:10:26 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Two, the use of the singular form doesn't make sense. Every large company has *many* lobbyists. (I'm none of them anyway.) | Nov 12 09:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Florian Mueller (fosspatents)'s status on Thursday, 10-Nov-11 19:11:22 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I attribute this to your obsession with me. I also reported the German default judgment against Apple, the Spanish case, etc. | Nov 12 09:54 |
| schestowitz | A lobbyist saying "I'm not a lobbyist" is like Elop saying "I am not a Trojan horse" | Nov 12 09:54 |
| iophk | There are many who are astounded that he gets any press coverage at all. | Nov 12 09:54 |
| schestowitz | He spams for it | Nov 12 09:54 |
| schestowitz | 1% success rare would be enough | Nov 12 09:54 |
| schestowitz | *rate | Nov 12 09:54 |
| schestowitz | He never even contested these accusations | Nov 12 09:55 |
| schestowitz | Cause he knows he is doing this | Nov 12 09:55 |
| schestowitz | For his clients | Nov 12 09:55 |
| schestowitz | "Results you can see.." blech | Nov 12 09:55 |
| schestowitz | PR agents masked as "analyst" | Nov 12 09:55 |
| schestowitz | Can provide a list of publications he manages to inject lies into | Nov 12 09:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] At long last, Mozilla Releases Lightning 1.0 Calendar http://ur1.ca/5rh11 #mozilla #calendar #thunderbird | Nov 12 09:59 | |
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| iophk | Lightning has been a very long time in the works. | Nov 12 10:00 |
| schestowitz | Some people seemt o require it | Nov 12 10:02 |
| schestowitz | Does it sync with devices ok? | Nov 12 10:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Twitter ordered to hand over your data in Washington probe against WikiLeaks http://t.co/WxCouSXi | Nov 12 10:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ISPs: Blocking The Pirate Bay Violates Freedom of Expression - http://bit.ly/vRSeBB surprised they didn't raise this before #nl | Nov 12 10:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] The Tor Browser Bundles have been updated to Firefox 8: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/new-tor-browser-bundles-9 | Nov 12 10:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] OpenPhoto - http://bit.ly/tilfmO "digital equivalent of shoe-boxes filled with photos" #opensource (v @brianbehlendorf) | Nov 12 10:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The OpenPhoto Project - A free, open source, hosted photo platform | .::. Size~: 11.38 KB | Nov 12 10:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The #Chakra Project - A Linux Distribution http://ur1.ca/5rhi5 #linux | Nov 12 10:27 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/85183864 http://identi.ca/notice/85183660 http://identi.ca/notice/85183596 | Nov 12 10:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Saturday, 12-Nov-11 10:13:33 UTC - Identi.ca: Apache Harmony is Dead. OpenJDK Wins Open Source Java Battle.http://is.gd/XSDvOA #java #jdk | Nov 12 10:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Apache Harmony is Dead. OpenJDK Wins Open Source Java Battle - InternetNews. .::. Size~: 32.12 KB | Nov 12 10:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Saturday, 12-Nov-11 10:05:59 UTC - Identi.ca: #Sabayon Linux 7 LXDE, E17 and Awesome Released http://is.gd/DBrtv6 #gentoo #gnu #linux | Nov 12 10:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Sabayon Linux 7 LXDE, E17 and Awesome Released - Softpedia .::. Size~: 51.72 KB | Nov 12 10:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Saturday, 12-Nov-11 10:03:33 UTC - Identi.ca: Turncoat EU Parliament Gives Up on Defending Free Wireless Communications http://is.gd/gxFWKH #eu #internet | Nov 12 10:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Turncoat EU Parliament Gives Up on Defending Free Wireless Communications | La Quadrature du Net .::. Size~: 35.08 KB | Nov 12 10:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Schema.org and RDFa 1.1 Lite: how does it look now? http://ow.ly/1fBZMW | Nov 12 10:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Watching a bird pottering about. | Nov 12 10:29 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Schema.org and RDFa 1.1 Lite: how does it look now? - W3C Blog .::. Size~: 14.62 KB | Nov 12 10:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @FVerniest op het web wordt een 100% uptime verwacht, desondanks wat er allemaal kan gebeuren | Nov 12 10:34 | |
| *_Goblin (~goblin@94-193-188-104.zone7.bethere.co.uk) has joined #techrights | Nov 12 10:58 | |
| *ChanServ gives channel operator status to _Goblin | Nov 12 11:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Wow, I just discovered that I can have multiple playlists open at once in !clementine! that's a biggie. shame !amarok doesn't have that. | Nov 12 11:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] after using !clementine for about 6mo (moved from !amarok), I must say it's much better for me. | Nov 12 11:04 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/793991 | Nov 12 11:05 |
| schestowitz | "I dont really have a problem with people who study litigation and banking or other meta-industries, I just dont like the people who practice these things, as for Art Degree's I dont mind them, just the picture made me chuckle :P how do we know the person in the pic even has or is training for an Art Degree??" | Nov 12 11:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 12 11:05 |
| schestowitz | "C'mon the cartoon IS funny - no offence to #artculture !" | Nov 12 11:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Get the young in chew them up and spit them out. Always remember to call them heroes not victims. | Nov 12 11:05 | |
| schestowitz | iophk: "Chakra is also the name of the javascript engine in IE 9+ :·>" | Nov 12 11:06 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/794595 | Nov 12 11:06 |
| schestowitz | Deliberate youi reckon? | Nov 12 11:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 12 11:06 |
| schestowitz | Dilute and confuse? | Nov 12 11:06 |
| iophk | Yes. Google jamming. | Nov 12 11:06 |
| schestowitz | Midori is another | Nov 12 11:07 |
| schestowitz | Palm PC | Nov 12 11:07 |
| schestowitz | Open Office | Nov 12 11:07 |
| schestowitz | RMS | Nov 12 11:07 |
| schestowitz | ... | Nov 12 11:07 |
| iophk | Like Vista. http://www.hardhats.org/ | Nov 12 11:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Home of Hardhats Around the World! .::. Size~: 16.71 KB | Nov 12 11:07 |
| schestowitz | Poor VistA | Nov 12 11:07 |
| schestowitz | Is its reputation dead yet? | Nov 12 11:08 |
| schestowitz | !google fiji army microsoft name | Nov 12 11:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - YANIV | http://www.windowsphone.com/fr-CA/apps/16e43d83-4104-4dc2-b26e-57eccff224b2 | Nov 12 11:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - List of Jats - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jats | Nov 12 11:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Programmers Jokes at WorkJoke.com - Profession Jokes | http://www.workjoke.com/programmers-jokes.html | Nov 12 11:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - AFTER 125 YEARS, FIJI'S INDO-FIJIANS IN RETREAT By Sanjay ... | http://www.worldpress.org/images/freelancersPDF/58_2.pdf | Nov 12 11:08 |
| iophk | It used to be on the top of the first page in Google. | Nov 12 11:08 |
| schestowitz | !google fiji threaten microsoft name | Nov 12 11:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Microsoft downplays Server bug threat, say researchers ... | http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9216602/Microsoft_downplays_Server_bug_threat_say_researchers | Nov 12 11:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Reducing the Threat from Microsoft Vulnerabilities | http://www.beyondtrust.com/White-Papers/Reducing-the-Threat-from-Microsoft-Vulnerabilities/ | Nov 12 11:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Skype - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skype | Nov 12 11:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Buying Your Own Private Island – Things To Consider | http://www.escapeartist.com/OREQ9/Phinlippine_Island.html | Nov 12 11:08 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1026609/fiji-attacks-microsoft | Nov 12 11:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Fiji attacks Microsoft - The Inquirer .::. Size~: 63.93 KB | Nov 12 11:09 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 12 11:09 |
| schestowitz | SOFTWARE GIANT Microsoft has been told not to contaminate the good image of a pacific island by naming its software after it. | Nov 12 11:09 |
| schestowitz | Fiji's military government has penned a nasty letter to Vole demanding that the company not use its country's nomenclature on any of its products. | Nov 12 11:09 |
| schestowitz | Fiji's interim attorney-general Aiyaz Sayed-Khaiyum wrote to Bill Gates after media reports suggested that the software company may call its yet-to-be-released media package "Windows Fiji". | Nov 12 11:09 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 12 11:09 |
| iophk | LOL | Nov 12 11:09 |
| schestowitz | http://www.smh.com.au/news/biztech/fijis-fury-over-microsofts-pacific-solution/2008/06/27/1214472744065.html | Nov 12 11:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Fiji's fury over Microsoft's Pacific solution - BizTech - Technology .::. Size~: 56.96 KB | Nov 12 11:10 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 12 11:10 |
| schestowitz | Fiji's military government has written to the software giant Microsoft demanding the company not use their country name in any of its products. | Nov 12 11:10 |
| schestowitz | Fiji's interim attorney-general Aiyaz Sayed-Khaiyum today released a letter sent to Microsoft's co-founder Bill Gates yesterday, after media reports the software company may call its yet-to-be-released software "Windows Fiji". | Nov 12 11:10 |
| schestowitz | "As a sovereign state the government asserts its absolute ownership over the use of the word 'Fiji' and reserves all its rights under all relevant laws to protect and defend the use of the word 'Fiji"' the letter says. | Nov 12 11:10 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 12 11:10 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft has quite the reputation os runing a reputation | Nov 12 11:10 |
| schestowitz | Even people called Bob might wrongly be associated in IT with a ****y OS | Nov 12 11:10 |
| schestowitz | SilverLie became synonymous with Web diarrhoea | Nov 12 11:11 |
| iophk | M$ tends to use "internal" code names a lot in marketing. It is used to generate buzz and to sell features that don't actually make it into the final product. | Nov 12 11:11 |
| schestowitz | "7" was hijacked too | Nov 12 11:11 |
| schestowitz | PR | Nov 12 11:11 |
| iophk | So Fiji has a point about the bad association. | Nov 12 11:11 |
| schestowitz | Longhorn | Nov 12 11:11 |
| schestowitz | Used to be many things | Nov 12 11:12 |
| iophk | Yep. | Nov 12 11:12 |
| schestowitz | Now it's just another name for Vista | Nov 12 11:12 |
| amarsh04 | long on bull... | Nov 12 11:12 |
| schestowitz | Next of KIN | Nov 12 11:12 |
| amarsh04 | time for a new kernel, back in several minutes | Nov 12 11:13 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/85185125 | Nov 12 11:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Saturday, 12-Nov-11 11:00:14 UTC - Identi.ca: Slow news day http://ur1.ca/5rhxt | Nov 12 11:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Linux Today - Richard Stallman's Personal Ad .::. Size~: 59.11 KB | Nov 12 11:14 |
| schestowitz | http://madhatter.ca/2011/11/11/ubuntu-drops-mono/ | Nov 12 11:15 |
| schestowitz | "This is apparently not finalized. Those interested in following the discussion should click here. However since Mono is one of the flashpoints in the Free Software movement, this will probably start-up the war games again." | Nov 12 11:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu Drops Mono? | Wayne Borean .::. Size~: 25.45 KB | Nov 12 11:15 |
| schestowitz | We need to keep an eye on this | Nov 12 11:15 |
| schestowitz | The MSFT cult will try to subvert and overcome Canonical's will | Nov 12 11:15 |
| iophk | It needs to be finalized so that Ubuntu can move on. | Nov 12 11:17 |
| iophk | Last time a UDS decision was enough. It ought to be good enough now, too. | Nov 12 11:18 |
| iophk | Keeping Mono means a bad 5 years of support troubles in the LTS. | Nov 12 11:18 |
| schestowitz | Mono and Banshee can exist for another 5 years?! | Nov 12 11:20 |
| schestowitz | Banshee isfunded | Nov 12 11:20 |
| schestowitz | *defunded | Nov 12 11:20 |
| iophk | Unlikely, but if Ubuntu gets saddled with them then they represent a greater burden. | Nov 12 11:20 |
| schestowitz | Canonical might even have to take the burden of stewardship | Nov 12 11:21 |
| schestowitz | For both | Nov 12 11:21 |
| schestowitz | like gnote in feodra | Nov 12 11:21 |
| iophk | It's a shame that Canonical did not spend the last few years making Rhythmbox or Clementine better. Start with a *good* program and make it better, instead of starting with trash on a trash framework. | Nov 12 11:21 |
| schestowitz | Remember that canonical employes the gnome-do dev | Nov 12 11:21 |
| iophk | Yes, 5 years of stewardship would draw resources away from many more worthwhile projects. | Nov 12 11:22 |
| schestowitz | I don't know for sure where sandy armstrong is now, probably not canonical | Nov 12 11:22 |
| iophk | gnome-do is a mistake, too. It goes a way if they clean house. | Nov 12 11:22 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linkedin.com/search/fpsearch?type=people&keywords=sandy+armstrong&pplSearchOrigin=GLHD&pageKey=nprofile-view-success | Nov 12 11:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Sign In | LinkedIn .::. Size~: 19.14 KB | Nov 12 11:22 |
| schestowitz | Which one is he? | Nov 12 11:22 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linkedin.com/in/sanfordarmstrong | Nov 12 11:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Sandy Armstrong | LinkedIn .::. Size~: 49.99 KB | Nov 12 11:23 |
| schestowitz | Ah | Nov 12 11:23 |
| schestowitz | Litl | Nov 12 11:23 |
| schestowitz | That netbook IIRVC | Nov 12 11:23 |
| schestowitz | Oh no;.. | Nov 12 11:24 |
| schestowitz | Sarah Perez from MS magazines | Nov 12 11:24 |
| iophk | ?? | Nov 12 11:25 |
| schestowitz | Now at AOL, Writer at TechCrunch | Nov 12 11:25 |
| iophk | :( | Nov 12 11:25 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahintampa | Nov 12 11:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Sarah Perez | LinkedIn .::. Size~: 53.88 KB | Nov 12 11:25 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder if Bob runs in Wine | Nov 12 11:25 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 12 11:25 |
| schestowitz | Professional Blogger | Nov 12 11:25 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft | Nov 12 11:25 |
| schestowitz | Public Company; 10,001+ employees; MSFT; Computer Software industry | Nov 12 11:25 |
| schestowitz | July 2007 – September 2010 (3 years 3 months) | Nov 12 11:25 |
| schestowitz | As a blogger for Microsoft's Channel 10 (http://www.on10.net), I contributed to a community of tech enthusiasts by creating posts on the latest in music, mobility, photography, videography, gaming, and new PC hardware and software. | Nov 12 11:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL | Nov 12 11:25 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 12 11:25 |
| schestowitz | Now at TechCrunch | Nov 12 11:25 |
| DaemonFC | http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=12062 | Nov 12 11:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: WineHQ - Microsoft Bob .::. Size~: 9.06 KB | Nov 12 11:26 |
| DaemonFC | Garbage | Nov 12 11:26 |
| DaemonFC | so it works as intended | Nov 12 11:26 |
| schestowitz | She attacks FOSS | Nov 12 11:26 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2010/01/28/free-software-hostile-novell/ | Nov 12 11:26 |
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| schestowitz | Lke this: | Nov 12 11:27 |
| schestowitz | http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/will_idealism_be_firefoxs_downfall.php | Nov 12 11:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Will Idealism be Firefox's Downfall? .::. Size~: 55.43 KB | Nov 12 11:27 |
| schestowitz | “she also writes for Microsoft’s Channel 10" http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/author/sarah-perez-1.php | Nov 12 11:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ReadWriteWeb: About Sarah Perez .::. Size~: 46.05 KB | Nov 12 11:27 |
| DaemonFC | http://appdb.winehq.org/appimage.php?iId=31921 | Nov 12 11:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Nov 12 11:27 |
| schestowitz | Part of the CUlt{tm} | Nov 12 11:28 |
| schestowitz | MS pays, FUD delivered | Nov 12 11:28 |
| iophk | Many forget that Firefox is big business.http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/foundation/annualreport/2010/faq/ | Nov 12 11:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The State of Mozilla Annual Report - FAQ .::. Size~: 8.84 KB | Nov 12 11:28 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: A number of GUIs had a Bob-ish feel to them, but many were done better, including a 3d shell full of advertising that came with a video card I bought once | Nov 12 11:29 |
| iophk | "Mozilla’s consolidated reported revenue (Mozilla Foundation and all subsidiaries) for 2010 was $123 million, up approximately 18 percent from 2009." | Nov 12 11:29 |
| DaemonFC | Google gave them a raise? | Nov 12 11:29 |
| DaemonFC | or did the increase represent their Microsoft partnership? :) | Nov 12 11:29 |
| iophk | 2010 | Nov 12 11:30 |
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| DaemonFC | they had Bing in 2010 | Nov 12 11:30 |
| DaemonFC | just not a Firefox that defaulted to it | Nov 12 11:30 |
| schestowitz | Bong scrapes Google rrsults | Nov 12 11:30 |
| schestowitz | They should rename it Ging | Nov 12 11:30 |
| DaemonFC | I think throwing Bing in as an option because they dumped millions of dollars on them is fine | Nov 12 11:30 |
| DaemonFC | nobody is going to change to Bing from Google unless they're nuts | Nov 12 11:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bad news. #TechCrunch (AOL) has hired a former Microsoft employee who uses her "writer" position to bash FOSS. #fail #spin #sarahperez | Nov 12 11:30 | |
| DaemonFC | it means more money to develop Firefox and Opera | Nov 12 11:31 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: or the browser forces them to | Nov 12 11:31 |
| iophk | Tainted money. | Nov 12 11:31 |
| schestowitz | I saw that happen to a friend | Nov 12 11:31 |
| DaemonFC | but shipping one that defaults to Bing is disgusting | Nov 12 11:31 |
| schestowitz | He would choose Google | Nov 12 11:31 |
| schestowitz | but the next time he starts the browser it's back to Microsoft's scrapes-plus-censorship-sans-FOSS | Nov 12 11:31 |
| DaemonFC | defaulting to Bing clearly shows they're more worried about excess profits than the kind of end user experience Firefox provides | Nov 12 11:31 |
| schestowitz | "The biggest "theft" by the [richest] 1 percent has been of the primary source of wealth - knowledge - for its own benefit." | Nov 12 11:31 |
| schestowitz | http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=805808000000000093 | Nov 12 11:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Against Monopoly .::. Size~: 29.1 KB | Nov 12 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | because obviously, Bing is not as good as Google | Nov 12 11:32 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: pay back the hospital | Nov 12 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | setting aside the fact that it's Microsoft | Nov 12 11:32 |
| schestowitz | for their knowledge | Nov 12 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | objectively, Bing is not as good | Nov 12 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | their results are bad, wrong, or censored, or deliberately tampered with | Nov 12 11:33 |
| DaemonFC | even if you don't care it's from Microsoft, the product is crap | Nov 12 11:33 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: if they want my money, they know who to sue | Nov 12 11:33 |
| DaemonFC | I just hope they don't mind a little Chapter 11 on my part if they do | Nov 12 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 12 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | wipe out the hospital bills and a couple of credit cards | Nov 12 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | bonus | Nov 12 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | even with the changes Bush rammed through on behalf of hospitals and credit card companies, it's still possible to file bankruptcy | Nov 12 11:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] /me likely suffers from a winter depression already :-s | Nov 12 11:35 | |
| DaemonFC | it's just that if they think you have enough money to pay them off expeditiously, they'll railroad you into a different kind of bankruptcy that makes you pay it back in installments | Nov 12 11:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] heh, nice picture. Thanks! | Nov 12 11:37 | |
| DaemonFC | the absolute worst place to "owe" money to is the IRS, followed by child support | Nov 12 11:37 |
| DaemonFC | nothing gets you out of those, and you can sit in jail for not paying them | Nov 12 11:37 |
| DaemonFC | unless you're rich and exploiting loopholes in the tax code designed as a way out of paying taxes, for the rich | Nov 12 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 12 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | most billionaires have it set up so they're paying only a few percent of their income in tax | Nov 12 11:39 |
| DaemonFC | while bitching that someone working at Walmart is a "lucky ducky" for "only" paying 8-9% to the feds | Nov 12 11:39 |
| DaemonFC | we have a regressive system disguised as a progressive system | Nov 12 11:40 |
| DaemonFC | it looks like the rate of tax goes up, but it really doesn't | Nov 12 11:40 |
| DaemonFC | it's just there as a facade to make people who pay taxes think that they're in a "lower bracket" | Nov 12 11:40 |
| DaemonFC | while the people who should be paying 35% are not | Nov 12 11:40 |
| schestowitz | IIRC, the States has it differently for child support to | Nov 12 11:42 |
| schestowitz | *too | Nov 12 11:42 |
| schestowitz | For example, they can take it out of the father's paycheck | Nov 12 11:42 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, each state has different laws | Nov 12 11:42 |
| schestowitz | While hospitals cannot do that, right? | Nov 12 11:42 |
| DaemonFC | but they're pretty much in agreement that only the man can be held responsible for the kids | Nov 12 11:42 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 12 11:42 |
| schestowitz | Equal rights for both genders | Nov 12 11:42 |
| schestowitz | But the males always have to foot the bills | Nov 12 11:43 |
| DaemonFC | in Indiana, if you don't pay child support, they throw you in prison | Nov 12 11:43 |
| DaemonFC | and make you lose your job | Nov 12 11:43 |
| DaemonFC | and have nothing to pay the child support with | Nov 12 11:43 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 12 11:43 |
| schestowitz | That's the only one area where the achievements of feminists need further amendments -- equality in support issues, the husband not being assumed to have to take the burden of alimony | Nov 12 11:44 |
| schestowitz | Yesterday I heard an interesting stort | Nov 12 11:44 |
| DaemonFC | there was a guy I used to work with, his ex wife took him to the cleaners in the divorce | Nov 12 11:44 |
| schestowitz | Not just about marriage as an exist barrier | Nov 12 11:44 |
| schestowitz | But child support too | Nov 12 11:44 |
| DaemonFC | and then she bought stuff for herself with hte child support payments | Nov 12 11:44 |
| schestowitz | This type of stuff can make the institute of marriage just collapse altogether | Nov 12 11:44 |
| schestowitz | But these days the child support aspect is unaffected by marriage or not marriage | Nov 12 11:44 |
| DaemonFC | he complained and the judge told him that as long as the kids were fed, clothed, and had a bed to sleep in, she can spend his money on anything she wants | Nov 12 11:44 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Nov 12 11:45 |
| schestowitz | Typical story | Nov 12 11:45 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Florida has lifetime alimony | Nov 12 11:45 |
| schestowitz | Happens a lot | Nov 12 11:45 |
| DaemonFC | so it's common for divorced women to shack up with someone and not marry them | Nov 12 11:45 |
| amarsh04 | reboot took longer, found a kernel bug to do with the radeon 9200se in this machine | Nov 12 11:45 |
| schestowitz | The entitlement needs to be made more fair | Nov 12 11:45 |
| DaemonFC | so the alimony check keeps coming | Nov 12 11:45 |
| DaemonFC | the check only stops if they get remarried | Nov 12 11:46 |
| schestowitz | Oh,I see.. | Nov 12 11:46 |
| schestowitz | No incentive for that then | Nov 12 11:46 |
| schestowitz | Until the kid turns 18 anyway | Nov 12 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | nope | Nov 12 11:46 |
| schestowitz | [or kids] | Nov 12 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | not affected by kids or no kids | Nov 12 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | it's not child support | Nov 12 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | it's alimony | Nov 12 11:46 |
| schestowitz | Oh | Nov 12 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | it NEVER ends until she dies or remarries | Nov 12 11:46 |
| schestowitz | What's that all about then? | Nov 12 11:46 |
| schestowitz | Alimony for what exactly? | Nov 12 11:46 |
| schestowitz | Women can get p[aid as much as men | Nov 12 11:47 |
| DaemonFC | for all the years of marriage or something | Nov 12 11:47 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know | Nov 12 11:47 |
| schestowitz | We achieved this goal | Nov 12 11:47 |
| DaemonFC | antiquated law | Nov 12 11:47 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Nov 12 11:47 |
| schestowitz | Sounfds like it | Nov 12 11:47 |
| schestowitz | US is a religious country | Nov 12 11:47 |
| DaemonFC | nobody will do anything about it because it's women benefiting off of unearned money coming from a man that earned it | Nov 12 11:47 |
| schestowitz | I bet the marriage vows still bears some stuff about promising to feed, cloth etc. to the rest of the life (not for kids, adults) | Nov 12 11:47 |
| DaemonFC | marriage is a huge liability for a man | Nov 12 11:48 |
| schestowitz | It doesn't have to be | Nov 12 11:48 |
| schestowitz | Depends on how it's done | Nov 12 11:48 |
| DaemonFC | a woman can not only get out of it, but make a profit by doing it | Nov 12 11:48 |
| schestowitz | And there's prenuptial | Nov 12 11:48 |
| DaemonFC | some states don't let you do that | Nov 12 11:48 |
| DaemonFC | or limit it | Nov 12 11:48 |
| schestowitz | If you want to blow money on the ceremony and not bear the liabilities | Nov 12 11:48 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: It used to be common for people who wanted a divorce to flee to Indiana, live here for 6 months, and file here | Nov 12 11:49 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: this leads to risk for the groom | Nov 12 11:49 |
| DaemonFC | because some surrounding states used to treat divorce as a jury trial | Nov 12 11:49 |
| DaemonFC | to assign fault | Nov 12 11:49 |
| schestowitz | Which in turns gives him no power in the relationship | Nov 12 11:49 |
| schestowitz | And he becomes "pussy-shipped" | Nov 12 11:49 |
| schestowitz | *whipped | Nov 12 11:49 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: so, why don't *you* get married? | Nov 12 11:49 |
| schestowitz | $30k ceremony | Nov 12 11:49 |
| DaemonFC | you basically were compelled to get up and lie under oath about the other person | Nov 12 11:49 |
| schestowitz | And then dreading a divorce | Nov 12 11:49 |
| DaemonFC | so the divorce would be "more" their fault than yours | Nov 12 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | so eventually all states did away with that | Nov 12 11:50 |
| schestowitz | hmmm... | Nov 12 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | I think New York was the last | Nov 12 11:50 |
| schestowitz | scary stuff | Nov 12 11:50 |
| schestowitz | butl... | Nov 12 11:50 |
| schestowitz | With prenup maybe there are ways around it | Nov 12 11:50 |
| schestowitz | I have a friend who is 40 and lives with his fiancée for 10 years | Nov 12 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Each state has different laws about who is a resident and who is not | Nov 12 11:50 |
| schestowitz | They don't get married, they're not religious and there's no benefit to it | Nov 12 11:51 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: resident? | Nov 12 11:51 |
| schestowitz | For applying applicable laws? | Nov 12 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | it's mainly to prevent people from getting in-state tuition at colleges | Nov 12 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | or for tax reasons | Nov 12 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | but marriage and divorce too | Nov 12 11:51 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft ia based in Navada | Nov 12 11:51 |
| schestowitz | For tax anyway :-) | Nov 12 11:51 |
| schestowitz | Frausdsters | Nov 12 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | Indiana's law is that if you have lived here for 6 months, you are an Indiana resident | Nov 12 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | unless you're not a US citizen of course :D | Nov 12 11:52 |
| schestowitz | I'm waiting for interview answers from someone who protests about it | Nov 12 11:52 |
| DaemonFC | They would need a physical presence there though | Nov 12 11:52 |
| DaemonFC | to qualify as a Nevada business | Nov 12 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | what do they satisfy that with? | Nov 12 11:53 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/85186313 | Nov 12 11:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Saturday, 12-Nov-11 11:39:44 UTC - Identi.ca: Mozilla's Mobile Operating System to be Linux Based http://is.gd/hOpUWj #mozilla #linux #firefox #android | Nov 12 11:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Mozilla's Boot 2 Gecko Mobile OS to Land 2012 .::. Size~: 112.95 KB | Nov 12 11:53 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: they set up an office there | Nov 12 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Indiana isn't pressing Amazon over sales tax | Nov 12 11:53 |
| schestowitz | just for the tax handling | Nov 12 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | Amazon has a warehouse here | Nov 12 11:53 |
| schestowitz | IOW, loophole for thr rich | Nov 12 11:53 |
| schestowitz | It's a serious crime | Nov 12 11:53 |
| schestowitz | But rich people do it | Nov 12 11:53 |
| schestowitz | So they legalise it | Nov 12 11:53 |
| schestowitz | They control the law | Nov 12 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | and they threatened to close it and fire everyone if the state made them charge sales tax to Indiana residents | Nov 12 11:53 |
| schestowitz | And they have their cronies (former employees) in the government | Nov 12 11:54 |
| schestowitz | It's just legalised theft | Nov 12 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | so they get away with INDOR looking the other way | Nov 12 11:54 |
| schestowitz | And people should rebel over this | Nov 12 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | while Indiana residents make purchases from an in-state business | Nov 12 11:54 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: what you describe is blackmail | Nov 12 11:54 |
| schestowitz | For this too the people should be sent to prison | Nov 12 11:54 |
| schestowitz | But they legalise this blackmail | Nov 12 11:54 |
| schestowitz | The law doesn't work against rich people | Nov 12 11:54 |
| schestowitz | They just legalise their own crimes | Nov 12 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | apparently the political fallout from Amazon closing up and firing thousands of warehouse workers is enough of a threat that they get out of taxes | Nov 12 11:55 |
| schestowitz | It's easy to buy "justice" | Nov 12 11:55 |
| DaemonFC | they play states against each other | Nov 12 11:55 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Nov 12 11:55 |
| DaemonFC | "Well, we're sure Ohio would see things differently" | Nov 12 11:55 |
| DaemonFC | ;) | Nov 12 11:55 |
| schestowitz | And the laws allow them too | Nov 12 11:55 |
| schestowitz | They write those laws | Nov 12 11:55 |
| schestowitz | if you're poor you can;'t do that | Nov 12 11:55 |
| schestowitz | You're accused of fraud | Nov 12 11:55 |
| DaemonFC | right | Nov 12 11:55 |
| schestowitz | Like if you pretend to be in mutiple states | Nov 12 11:56 |
| DaemonFC | I have nothing to blackmail them with to get out of taxes | Nov 12 11:56 |
| schestowitz | And you can't buy politicians | Nov 12 11:56 |
| DaemonFC | they can threaten me if I don't | Nov 12 11:56 |
| DaemonFC | (prison, wage garnishment, etc.) | Nov 12 11:56 |
| DaemonFC | hell, I can't even afford to rent one | Nov 12 11:57 |
| schestowitz | The biggest crimes tend to be legal because those who commit those crimes are so wealthy that they can afford to "legalise" them | Nov 12 11:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How stringently should the contempt laws be applied to new media? - http://bit.ly/sT4mZ6 good question (v @davidallengreen) #law #uk | Nov 12 11:57 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How stringently should the contempt laws be applied to new media? | David Banks | Law | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 109.49 KB | Nov 12 11:57 |
| schestowitz | Join a protest group then | Nov 12 11:57 |
| DaemonFC | maybe I can sit in an airport restroom stall and hope I get lucky and have one tap their foot at me | Nov 12 11:57 |
| schestowitz | Make change | Nov 12 11:57 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 12 11:57 |
| schestowitz | Blog about it, etc. | Nov 12 11:57 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/794872 | Nov 12 11:58 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Nov 12 11:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 12 11:58 |
| schestowitz | What an stupid headline | Nov 12 12:00 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theinfoboom.com/articles/linux-trojan-attacking-mac-os-x/ | Nov 12 12:00 |
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| schestowitz | They make it sound like Linux attacks OSux | Nov 12 12:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] MT @schestowitz The biggest crimes tend to be legal because those who commit those crimes are so wealthy they can afford to "legalise" them | Nov 12 12:00 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: War crimes are "war on terrorism", massive tax evasion is "good for the economy", state-vs-state blackmail is "being a good businessman" :-) | Nov 12 12:06 |
| iophk | http://boingboing.net/2011/11/02/tom-the-dancing-bug-whose-encampment-should-crowd-control-police-be-breaking-up.html | Nov 12 12:06 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/chrome-os-gets-windows-friendly-with-ntfs-support-20111110/ | Nov 12 12:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Chrome OS gets Windows friendly with NTFS support – Computer Chips & Hardware Technology | Geek.com .::. Size~: 60.72 KB | Nov 12 12:09 |
| schestowitz | I'd say compatible, not "friendly" | Nov 12 12:09 |
| schestowitz | MS is extoeting Chrome OS | Nov 12 12:09 |
| schestowitz | With racketeering tactics | Nov 12 12:10 |
| schestowitz | Wow. Watch the flag http://lifehacker.com/5858462/in-defense-of-windows | Nov 12 12:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: In Defense of Windows .::. Size~: 87.9 KB | Nov 12 12:18 |
| schestowitz | In lifehacker | Nov 12 12:18 |
| schestowitz | iophk: thanks http://identi.ca/notice/85187183 | Nov 12 12:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Saturday, 12-Nov-11 12:11:01 UTC - Identi.ca: Whose Encampment Should Crowd-Control Police Be Breaking Up? http://is.gd/Yugs08 the #police that we need. | Nov 12 12:18 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/85187282 | Nov 12 12:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Saturday, 12-Nov-11 12:14:19 UTC - Identi.ca: You know that the people are not dumb/gullible enough when... http://is.gd/6zYUuh | Nov 12 12:19 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/794809 "LMAO XD... I should get one for my lefty girlfriend..." | Nov 12 12:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 12 12:21 |
| schestowitz | "Or, you know, he's afraid Visual Studio couldn't compete with the quality IDE's already available on Linux, even if it was free. Also, someone who uses Linux surely wouldn't use an IDE optimized for Microsoft platforms? Cross-platform is where it's at." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/794809 | Nov 12 12:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 12 12:21 |
| schestowitz | Maybe he worries that Silver Lie was dead to begin with. The less they invest (sink into it), the better. | Nov 12 12:22 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: this was in the new yesterday http://www.inavateonthenet.net/article/46320/Matrox-extends-Extio-series-support.aspx | Nov 12 12:25 |
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| schestowitz | BTW, you got mentioned in USENET | Nov 12 12:25 |
| oiaohm | Good or bad. schestowitz | Nov 12 12:28 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: ie in the USENET | Nov 12 12:29 |
| schestowitz | http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/11/14/111114fa_fact_gladwell | Nov 12 12:30 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: good | Nov 12 12:30 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: that is different. For some reason when it USENET and me its normally bad. | Nov 12 12:32 |
| oiaohm | the odds had to change at some point. | Nov 12 12:32 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: This is a just for fun item. http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:13390 | Nov 12 12:33 |
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| schestowitz | "And I thought MS was over such "tactics"... " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/794877 | Nov 12 12:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 12 12:35 |
| schestowitz | ""You want to infiltrate those. Again, there’s two categories. There’s those that are controlled by vendors; like MSJ; we control that. And there’s those that are independent. [...] So that’s how you use journals that we control. The ones that third parties control, like the WinTech Journal, you want to infiltrate."" --MSFT http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/comes-3096.pdf | Nov 12 12:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting application/pdf type | Nov 12 12:36 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/795003 "Exactly! The ones who can afford the lobby groups have law shaped in their favour. Can you and I afford the lobby groups? No? then you and I lose in an economic environment divided on itself and therefore doomed to fail." | Nov 12 12:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 12 12:37 |
| schestowitz | Me: It is often "Big" criminals (costing the most to society) who get to call us "pirates" and "thieves" and use their own/controlled newspapers to "normalise" these rhetorics. | Nov 12 12:38 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/794998 "well, as you go up the M$$ ladder, you get dumber and dumber and start to drop -statements-, stupid arguments. He's just deflecting the issues about their products by attacking another base on absolutely nothing." | Nov 12 12:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 12 12:40 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/85187395 | Nov 12 12:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Saturday, 12-Nov-11 12:19:49 UTC - Identi.ca: Be a good citizen. Go back to fragging polygons on your gaming console and stop thinking. If you must read, pick up The Sun. | Nov 12 12:42 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/85187589 | Nov 12 12:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Saturday, 12-Nov-11 12:27:10 UTC - Identi.ca: iOS upgrade swells iPhone battery-suckage grief http://is.gd/G4nA4C worse than featurephones | Nov 12 12:42 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Nov 12 12:43 |
| schestowitz | Sunday newspapers want us to think that anecdotal domestic violence cases are top news. It works because it distracts people from real issues. | Nov 12 12:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Sunday newspapers want us to think that anecdotal domestic violence cases are top news. It works because it distracts p... http://b1t.it/TTL | Nov 12 12:44 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 12 12:44 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/akaSassinak/statuses/135328760005279744 | Nov 12 12:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @akaSassinak: @glynmoody @schestowitz "Might makes Right. " peacefull protestation won't be enough. "Move your money" helps. | Nov 12 12:45 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/794998 "I find Ballmer very entertaining (unintentionally on his part of course)" | Nov 12 12:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 12 12:46 |
| schestowitz | Ballmer teaches us that even demented/sociopathic individuals can climb quite high. | Nov 12 12:47 |
| MinceR | "move your money"... where? | Nov 12 12:47 |
| schestowitz | I don't think he means boycott, but maybe | Nov 12 12:47 |
| schestowitz | Oerhaps Lessig's idea of root striking | Nov 12 12:47 |
| schestowitz | Making candidates dependent on a citizen's money | Nov 12 12:48 |
| schestowitz | Not corporations and their ringleaders | Nov 12 12:48 |
| iophk | Ballmer did not climb that high himself, he just rode in on Gates' ascension. | Nov 12 12:50 |
| oiaohm | iophk: Interesting is when you compare what Ballmer and Gates have in common. | Nov 12 12:53 |
| iophk | What? Both sociopathic? Both riding on the desktop monopoly handed to them by Gates' mom via IBM? | Nov 12 12:53 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I thought that when I wrote it | Nov 12 12:54 |
| schestowitz | About Ballmer being Gates' henchman | Nov 12 12:54 |
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| schestowitz | But it would take more words | Nov 12 12:54 |
| schestowitz | I'll post some daily links now | Nov 12 12:55 |
| schestowitz | Then I'll make some posts | Nov 12 12:55 |
| schestowitz | It's time to call for jusitce against Microsoft | Nov 12 12:55 |
| schestowitz | I'm pretty much fed up | Nov 12 12:55 |
| schestowitz | The US looks the other way when crime is committed | Nov 12 12:55 |
| schestowitz | And ignored legal instruments like RICO Act | Nov 12 12:55 |
| schestowitz | Time to call for people'a attention and have them ask their MPs | Nov 12 12:56 |
| schestowitz | Maybe it can be stopped, but I very much doubt any MS execs will end up in prison | Nov 12 12:56 |
| schestowitz | Even for breaking the RICO Act-related laws | Nov 12 12:56 |
| schestowitz | Rich people don't go to prison | Nov 12 12:56 |
| schestowitz | Unless it's symbolic to appease the public and restore some confidence (e.g. Madoff) | Nov 12 12:56 |
| schestowitz | Prisons are built for poor people whom the high society can no longer keep under control | Nov 12 12:57 |
| oiaohm | iophk: In fact they are from the same university. | Nov 12 12:57 |
| iophk | Yes. That's why he is where he is now. | Nov 12 12:58 |
| iophk | Speaking of universities, routing so much of the population through the prison system has adverse effects on society and culture. | Nov 12 12:58 |
| oiaohm | Gates wrote the school's computer program to schedule students in classes. He modified the code so that he was placed in classes with mostly female students. | Nov 12 13:02 |
| oiaohm | He started his underhanded computer usage very early did gates. | Nov 12 13:02 |
| iophk | Probably myth. | Nov 12 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: To quote Will Smith from Enemy of the State | Nov 12 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | ;) | Nov 12 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | "A Hobbs and a RICO, ohh baby don't stop!" | Nov 12 13:03 |
| oiaohm | iophk: No that one is not a myth its on the harvard record. | Nov 12 13:03 |
| schestowitz | also broke a machine so that he can get free computer time to 'fix' it | Nov 12 13:03 |
| schestowitz | That's a verified fact | Nov 12 13:03 |
| oiaohm | iophk: Ie he got caught. | Nov 12 13:03 |
| schestowitz | I think he took pride in doing that with Allen (the troll) | Nov 12 13:03 |
| iophk | IIRC they also stole a lot of hours of computing time. But that's small potatoes compared to the damage they do daily now. | Nov 12 13:04 |
| schestowitz | I wriote about this some years ago in TEchrights | Nov 12 13:05 |
| oiaohm | Really the world and MS is slowly becoming incompadible. | Nov 12 13:05 |
| schestowitz | LOL (NSFW) https://joindiaspora.com/posts/795199 | Nov 12 13:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 12 13:06 |
| schestowitz | iophk: but it shows his character | Nov 12 13:07 |
| schestowitz | He bullies people for his own insecurities | Nov 12 13:07 |
| schestowitz | Coming from a guy who called his company micro-soft | Nov 12 13:07 |
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| oiaohm | People forget bill gates was a Uni versity drop out. | Nov 12 13:09 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/794923 | Nov 12 13:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 12 13:10 |
| schestowitz | "Good to see that explicitly stated. I was a bit confused by the previous 'lower levels of Android' weasel words. I thought, "But that's Linux!". So Mozilla are putting an HTML5 shell on top of the Linux kernel. Maybe they should talk to HP about GPLing the rest of the WebOS code." | Nov 12 13:10 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: right | Nov 12 13:10 |
| schestowitz | His highest qualification is high school diploma | Nov 12 13:10 |
| schestowitz | But then again, maybe plutocrats are like that | Nov 12 13:10 |
| oiaohm | Other commonality between Ballmer and Gates was that they were both studing a "bachelor's degree in mathematics and economics" | Nov 12 13:10 |
| oiaohm | Ballmer completed his Gates did not. | Nov 12 13:11 |
| schestowitz | Smart people don't feel like they need to crush those whom they envy | Nov 12 13:11 |
| schestowitz | They just do their thing | Nov 12 13:11 |
| oiaohm | So head of MS has had bugger all diversity. | Nov 12 13:11 |
| schestowitz | Ballmer had high SAT scores in maths | Nov 12 13:11 |
| oiaohm | Same leaders trained by the same people. | Nov 12 13:11 |
| schestowitz | IIRC RMS and Ballmer both got highest scores | Nov 12 13:11 |
| schestowitz | But RMS also aces the other SAP component, not just math | Nov 12 13:12 |
| oiaohm | Ie MS has the company equal to inbreeding. | Nov 12 13:12 |
| oiaohm | Normally you try to have staff that have trained up in different universities at top. | Nov 12 13:12 |
| oiaohm | So there is some difference in ideas. | Nov 12 13:12 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2011/11/development-on-utorrent-client-for.html | Nov 12 13:32 |
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| DaemonFC | Why would you want that? | Nov 12 13:32 |
| DaemonFC | is there a shortage of functional bittorrent clients that are free software? | Nov 12 13:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @gryps75 RD @ludost Dialogue with @rms is a win: Stallman is a walking history of the Internet and software technology throughout the ... | Nov 12 13:32 | |
| schestowitz | exactly | Nov 12 13:33 |
| schestowitz | i saw some articles about this earlier | Nov 12 13:33 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer 0 minutes ago | Nov 12 13:34 |
| DaemonFC | There's absolutely no need for their garbage on Linux. There are a lot of fully functional free and open source bittorrent clients without a proprietary one from a company that has twice (in the last few months) managed to host malware instead of their Windows version. | Nov 12 13:34 |
| DaemonFC | https://torrentfreak.com/shoot-the-pirate-copyright-campaign-descends-into-real-violence-111112/ | Nov 12 13:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: “Shoot the Pirate” Copyright Campaign Descends Into Real Violence | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 28.17 KB | Nov 12 13:37 |
| DaemonFC | I am amused | Nov 12 13:37 |
| DaemonFC | "Creative Workers Union of South Africa president Mabutho “Kid” Sithole said that people involved in the campaign had already received death threats with one label owner being forced to hire bodyguards." | Nov 12 13:37 |
| DaemonFC | shoot the record label do nothing fatcat day | Nov 12 13:38 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 12 13:38 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I noticed some analyst I'd never heard of from some company I never heard of downgraded Red Hat stock with no explanation | Nov 12 13:44 |
| DaemonFC | from buy to neutral | Nov 12 13:44 |
| DaemonFC | even though their net income is UP every quarter lately and shows no sign of stopping soon | Nov 12 13:45 |
| iophk | Probably planning to buy for himself then. | Nov 12 13:45 |
| iophk | Drive the price down a little for more profit. | Nov 12 13:45 |
| DaemonFC | any analyst who warns you away from a stock that is outperforming projects every quarter is someone you shouldn't trust with your money | Nov 12 13:46 |
| DaemonFC | *prospects | Nov 12 13:46 |
| DaemonFC | what needs to be downgraded is Microsoft, by a lot | Nov 12 13:46 |
| DaemonFC | their stock hasn't budged much in years and they're burning through cash on all kinds of stupid shit that is not part of their core business | Nov 12 13:47 |
| DaemonFC | I'd rate Microsoft a get out while it's still worth something Sell | Nov 12 13:47 |
| DaemonFC | Red Hat should be a Buy | Nov 12 13:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz Bad news. #TechCrunch (AOL) has hired a former Microsoft employee who uses her "writer" position to bash FOSS. #fail #sp ... | Nov 12 13:49 | |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft has become increasingly erratic | Nov 12 13:49 |
| DaemonFC | it can't decide if it wants to be a software company, an internet company, a video game company, or a patent troll | Nov 12 13:50 |
| DaemonFC | so it's trying to be all | Nov 12 13:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @Tuinslak: http://t.co/9IZKVHNO :D | Nov 12 13:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @JozefColpaert and your kids are not studying as long as you cannot smell one of these signs? | Nov 12 13:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 12 13:52 |
| MinceR | m$ is trying to be World Government Company, as always | Nov 12 13:58 |
| MinceR | it's just that their plans mostly aren't working out so well :> | Nov 12 13:59 |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC: the thing is at this Stage MS is still making a profit. | Nov 12 13:59 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: now of course I suspect a lot is masked in patent deals. | Nov 12 14:00 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Like how the first few years of the Nazi 1,000 year reign went OK | Nov 12 14:00 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 12 14:00 |
| DaemonFC | I'm working on a draft about the problems with DuckDuckGo | Nov 12 14:01 |
| DaemonFC | I forced myself to use it for a while to see if I liked it, or if the results were really as different from Bing as they claim they are | Nov 12 14:01 |
| DaemonFC | turns out that they're not very different from what Bing returns most of the time | Nov 12 14:01 |
| DaemonFC | about the only neat or original things I've seen them do is use WolframAlpha for calculations and things like Wikipedia to determine the official site for something or the put in their zero click info boxes | Nov 12 14:03 |
| DaemonFC | those are some things where Google is lacking | Nov 12 14:03 |
| DaemonFC | but it seems DuckDuckGo is just Bing with sugar on top | Nov 12 14:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] RT @gryps75 @evan thank you for all your work the last weeks. Just in time for us on #fscons to have identica as reliable channel :-) | Nov 12 14:05 | |
| DaemonFC | the kind of things I use Google for don't line up well with the way Bing figures its results or with how DuckDuckGo swizzles them | Nov 12 14:06 |
| DaemonFC | sometimes I shotgun Google with a search to see if a bug I've run into with something is reported anywhere | Nov 12 14:07 |
| DaemonFC | Google is 50/50, DuckDuckGo almost never works | Nov 12 14:07 |
| oiaohm | Google I have site limiting lists. | Nov 12 14:07 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] “Shoot the Pirate” Copyright Campaign Descends Into Real Violence - http://bit.ly/uyY14C incitement to murder? such nice people | Nov 12 14:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] I2P - Anonymity for the Masses - http://bit.ly/uHj7LB v interesting; I fear we're going to be needing this #surveillance #privacy | Nov 12 14:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Erik Josefsson now speaking about #freesoftware in the European Parliament at #FSCONS | Nov 12 14:27 | |
| DaemonFC | doh! | Nov 12 14:32 |
| DaemonFC | I just flew all my drones into the firing range of a turret because the stupid game interpreted my orders to go to a different spot on the map as a drag to scroll | Nov 12 14:33 |
| DaemonFC | grrr | Nov 12 14:33 |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC: at least it not like TA | Nov 12 14:34 |
| oiaohm | click from one side of the map to the other and watch you units disappear for good. | Nov 12 14:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Erik Josefsson unravels mysteries of how the EP works at #FSCONS, shows useful tools | Nov 12 14:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Parliamentarians from 157 countries unanimously adopt resolution condemning US investigation into Assange http://t.co/oh8jv9iM | Nov 12 15:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: Lest We Forget #remember | Nov 12 15:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: AUCC: "These strict prohibitions may unnecessarily undermine the use of fair dealing and other exceptions in the Copyright Act" | Nov 12 15:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: Caving on copyright keeps paying off RT @globeandmail: Keystone decision a setback for US -Canada relations http://t.co/lrj ... | Nov 12 15:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: Whither WIPO: Will WIPO Wither? - video of my talk at the CCIL conference on the future of WIPO http://t.co/2ebyv1Hz | Nov 12 15:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: RT @peternowak: Canadian broadband: the time for complaining is over http://t.co/aHGJ5kvT | Nov 12 15:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: The Daily Digital Lock Dissenter, Day 27: Association of Universities and Colleges of Canada http://t.co/HLxuIBFM | Nov 12 15:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Kind request for the RICO Act to be upheld and enforced now that federal agents are under active pressure from Barnes a http://ur1.ca/5rn90 | Nov 12 15:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ Kind request for the RICO Act to be upheld and enforced now that federal agents are under active pressure from Barnes a http://ur1. ... | Nov 12 15:54 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: US Citizens: Contact Your Representatives, Seeking Prosecution of Microsoft Executives for Perpetrating Extortion Racket | Techrights .::. Size~: 98.4 KB | Nov 12 15:54 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/85190136 http://identi.ca/notice/85190639 http://identi.ca/notice/85191904 http://identi.ca/notice/85193079 | Nov 12 15:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Saturday, 12-Nov-11 13:43:15 UTC - Identi.ca: Boycott #SUSE (and ‘Open’ SUSE) for Colluding in Microsoft’s Extortion http://ur1.ca/5rklm... http://b1t.it/TVj | Nov 12 15:55 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Saturday, 12-Nov-11 14:37:13 UTC - Identi.ca: “Patent Judges Want the Last Word Over Patent Law in Europe” http://is.gd/escGdD #eu #swpats | Nov 12 15:56 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Saturday, 12-Nov-11 15:16:51 UTC - Identi.ca: Subjective Subject Matter http://ur1.ca/5rm6k #swpats #patent | Nov 12 15:56 |
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| schestowitz | Former #Microsoft Staff Makes Hadoop/Cloudera Financially Dependent http://techrights.org/2011/11/12/cloudera-and-microsoft/ #Hadoop | Nov 12 15:57 |
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| dyfet | In respect to rico/racketeering, that could perhaps be a good use for one of those wh petitions, too...it is an exec branch issue to prosecute crimes. | Nov 12 15:57 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/85192671 | Nov 12 15:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Saturday, 12-Nov-11 15:01:44 UTC - Identi.ca: Former #Microsoft Staff Makes Hadoop/Cloudera Financially Dependent http://ur1.ca/5rlwv #techrights | Nov 12 15:58 |
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| schestowitz | dyfet: petition to Obama? | Nov 12 15:58 |
| schestowitz | as in, asking for signature to ask for law to be enforced? | Nov 12 15:59 |
| dyfet | yes... | Nov 12 15:59 |
| dyfet | yes! | Nov 12 15:59 |
| schestowitz | It seems outlandish | Nov 12 15:59 |
| schestowitz | To have to gather signatures for law to be enforced | Nov 12 15:59 |
| dyfet | I agree it is | Nov 12 15:59 |
| dyfet | But it is not one that can be dismissed claiming it is a congressional responsibility (like the anti-pat petition) | Nov 12 15:59 |
| schestowitz | Imagine having to asked a raped women to gather her friends to mass-phone the police to go after the rapist | Nov 12 15:59 |
| schestowitz | Not exactly "to serve and protect", is it? | Nov 12 15:59 |
| dyfet | Perhaps such a petition should make clear exactly how outlandish it is too... | Nov 12 16:00 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Nov 12 16:00 |
| schestowitz | US DOJ is useless | Nov 12 16:00 |
| amarsh04 | http://www.animenewsnetwork.com.au/news/2011-11-11/japan-to-join-trans-pacific-partnership-agreement-talks | Nov 12 16:00 |
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| schestowitz | It has peopel like Barnett | Nov 12 16:00 |
| schestowitz | Former MS lawyers | Nov 12 16:00 |
| schestowitz | It's too political | Nov 12 16:00 |
| dyfet | Such a petition would perhaps be exercise in truth to power... | Nov 12 16:02 |
| dyfet | (an exercise in) | Nov 12 16:02 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Nov 12 16:03 |
| schestowitz | can a non-user set up a petition in the WH? | Nov 12 16:03 |
| schestowitz | If you create one, I'll promote it | Nov 12 16:03 |
| schestowitz | There was one petition asking the WH to just actually do something about the petition | Nov 12 16:03 |
| schestowitz | In the Uk we had a similar petition to #10 | Nov 12 16:04 |
| schestowitz | Something like | Nov 12 16:04 |
| schestowitz | This site is about you pretending to listen, but you don't obey anything, so what's the point? | Nov 12 16:04 |
| dyfet | I will have to think about doing it now. I might try just a slightly less blunt approach though :). | Nov 12 16:05 |
| schestowitz | ok, thanks | Nov 12 16:05 |
| schestowitz | I'd support it | Nov 12 16:05 |
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| schestowitz | to the best of my ability | Nov 12 16:05 |
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| schestowitz | This can help raise awareness of that fact that Microsoft engages in extortion while the government doesn't give a damn | Nov 12 16:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] "Are we overthinking it?" "Not at all" !TBBT. Well said how the world should look at us :-) | Nov 12 16:07 | |
| dyfet | Yes...I would not expect to get a useful response with the petition from the wh itself directly, but it will help raise awareness among others where it needs to be raised, that I can see | Nov 12 16:07 |
| dyfet | so I do see your point in that respect | Nov 12 16:08 |
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| schestowitz | "Really bad developments. At my University I'm also running into problems, being oriented towards #open-source. Somehow the ICT department can't seem to handle it. Sticking with Microsoft's proprietary Office formats shows little intelligence or vision. " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/783709 | Nov 12 16:13 |
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| schestowitz | dyfet: let's do it :-) | Nov 12 16:13 |
| schestowitz | "Elijah Armageddon .. what do you mean with you don't trust? " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/791060" | Nov 12 16:13 |
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| dyfet | This morning I am doing releases, and this afternoon I am speaking on a radio show about the Cherokees of Idaho. But I think I could get something drafted tonight or tomorrow. Perhaps some others lurking might want to come forward to form a drafting committee? | Nov 12 16:14 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #IAEA study as pretext for war on #Iran — RT - #usa #israel #stateterrorism #iran #nukeslies http://goo.gl/SGrhf | Nov 12 16:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Does this explain warm fuzzy bits of Bill !C11? CD-format to be abandoned by major labels by the end of 2012 http://ur1.ca/5lg6u !copyright | Nov 12 16:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] who / what is the SKF Group, and what software are they using Calligra with? inqiuring minds want to know! :) | Nov 12 16:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @crosbie Which is better? Privileges of #copyright & #patent OR liberty? See comments in http://identi.ca/url/56680551 | Nov 12 16:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] I approve of this as long as it's broadcast live. | Nov 12 16:36 | |
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| DaemonFC | patents are definitely worse than copyright, for software anyway | Nov 12 16:36 |
| DaemonFC | nobody has really figured out how to patent words and musical notes yet | Nov 12 16:37 |
| DaemonFC | but I'm sure they're hard at work | Nov 12 16:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] lol! | Nov 12 16:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] !fsfe 's #fscons track http://ur1.ca/5hwen in the last session. Now installed #pagekite and setup http://ur1.ca/5rofz | Nov 12 16:37 | |
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| DaemonFC | Silverlight is going to be just another "one of those things", by things I mean bitrot that is attached to Windows for the foreseeable future in the name of backward compatibility | Nov 12 16:38 |
| DaemonFC | they only dropped Channel Definition Format in IE 8 | Nov 12 16:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] ♻ @karsten: !fsfe launches mailing list for policy work: http://ur1.ca/5rllb Join today and help us fight for software freedom! #FSCONS !gnu | Nov 12 16:39 | |
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| DaemonFC | 1/10th of China's farmland is contaminated | Nov 12 16:40 |
| DaemonFC | so, all the canned vegetables at ALDI have a 10% chance of killing you | Nov 12 16:40 |
| DaemonFC | or every 10th can actually does kill you? | Nov 12 16:40 |
| *MinceR construct a canned vegetable launcher | Nov 12 16:40 | |
| MinceR | s/ct/cts/ | Nov 12 16:40 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: The principle would be similar to a potato gun | Nov 12 16:41 |
| DaemonFC | only this would need to be constructed of something sturdier than PVC pipe unless you want it to blow you up | Nov 12 16:41 |
| MinceR | these have a 10% chance to kill on touch, though :> | Nov 12 16:41 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 12 16:41 |
| DaemonFC | "The growth in peer-to-peer file sharing surged in response to efforts by the content industry to litigate over the past decade" | Nov 12 16:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] ♻ @karsten: Tools for working with the European Parliament http://ur1.ca/5rnn6 - quick write-up from Erik's #FSCONS talk | Nov 12 16:42 | |
| DaemonFC | Streisand Effect | Nov 12 16:42 |
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| DaemonFC | "Ohh, you mean there's free music out there?" | Nov 12 16:42 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 12 16:42 |
| MinceR | actually there's gratis music that was never intended to be sold, out there | Nov 12 16:43 |
| MinceR | and most of it is better than most of the music they sell | Nov 12 16:43 |
| DaemonFC | if they hadn't blasted it all over the news that you're an idiot to pay retail price for music, then maybe it would still be the UNDERGROUND WAREZ SCENE | Nov 12 16:43 |
| DaemonFC | instead of soccer moms | Nov 12 16:43 |
| MinceR | demoscene music, for example | Nov 12 16:44 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: A lot of it on Jamendo has Non Commercial terms | Nov 12 16:44 |
| DaemonFC | which is fine, because they want to license it if some big company uses it in an ad | Nov 12 16:44 |
| DaemonFC | it doesn't affect me | Nov 12 16:44 |
| MinceR | there's also places like remix.kwed.org | Nov 12 16:44 |
| DaemonFC | I don't get why "Non Commercial - See us for this type of licensing" = Nonfree | Nov 12 16:45 |
| DaemonFC | to me it means they don't want to get ripped off when someone samples their music in a commercial for Nike tennis shoes | Nov 12 16:45 |
| DaemonFC | they have money, make them pay | Nov 12 16:45 |
| MinceR | because free software isn't supposed to discriminate between fields of endeavor -- which includes commercial applications | Nov 12 16:45 |
| DaemonFC | but what about "content" | Nov 12 16:46 |
| MinceR | doesn't mean it's necessarily a Bad Thing, but it's nonfree in that perspective | Nov 12 16:46 |
| DaemonFC | like music and books | Nov 12 16:46 |
| MinceR | software licensing may or may not apply so well to them | Nov 12 16:46 |
| DaemonFC | is it evil to say that Verizon doesn't get to use a picture you took on a billboard without paying you? | Nov 12 16:46 |
| MinceR | no | Nov 12 16:46 |
| MinceR | nobody said it's evil, they said it's nonfree | Nov 12 16:46 |
| MinceR | not the same thing | Nov 12 16:46 |
| DaemonFC | http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/11/12/0410256/warner-brothers-automated-takedown-notices-hit-files-that-werent-ours | Nov 12 16:47 |
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| DaemonFC | Which is technically a crime on the part of Warner Bros | Nov 12 16:47 |
| *amarsh04 has been promised a patch to fix a problem affecting r200 radeons by the developer | Nov 12 16:47 | |
| MinceR | but it's ok since they're so rich | Nov 12 16:47 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 12 16:47 |
| DaemonFC | lets see how the government responds when a company knowingly (or should have known) sends out false DMCA take downs | Nov 12 16:48 |
| MinceR | they ask for a bit more money for the next election campaign? | Nov 12 16:48 |
| DaemonFC | DMCA take downs are not meant to be automated | Nov 12 16:48 |
| DaemonFC | someone has to SIGN it as a representative of the complainant | Nov 12 16:48 |
| MinceR | hungary already has a robot for signing papers | Nov 12 16:49 |
| DaemonFC | which makes the complainant legally responsible for the take down notice | Nov 12 16:49 |
| MinceR | though we call it "President" | Nov 12 16:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] CCLA Concerned about Threats to Occupy Movements http://ur1.ca/5roh5 | Nov 12 16:49 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: Anything in there about ethnic purity yet? | Nov 12 16:49 |
| MinceR | noe | Nov 12 16:49 |
| MinceR | nope | Nov 12 16:49 |
| amarsh04 | there was a robot that did that for Nixon and perhaps earlier presidents for letters to families that lost people in the vietnam war | Nov 12 16:49 |
| DaemonFC | or do you just bestow citizenship for saying "I had a great grandmother from Hungary? | Nov 12 16:50 |
| MinceR | well, the prime minister is a gypsy... | Nov 12 16:50 |
| MinceR | i think it's like that, but i'm not sure | Nov 12 16:50 |
| DaemonFC | the legality of signing legislation with an autopen has never been tested in US courts | Nov 12 16:50 |
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| DaemonFC | it may or may not be "legal", but they don't want to test it out | Nov 12 16:51 |
| DaemonFC | because if it's not, it would annul hundreds of laws | Nov 12 16:51 |
| MinceR | ours is made of flesh with human DNA | Nov 12 16:51 |
| MinceR | it looks like this >> http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schmitt_P%C3%A1l | Nov 12 16:52 |
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| MinceR | hm, there's an english article too | Nov 12 16:52 |
| MinceR | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A1l_Schmitt | Nov 12 16:52 |
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| DaemonFC | Bill Clinton has a brother running Hungary? | Nov 12 16:52 |
| DaemonFC | I'm so sorry | Nov 12 16:52 |
| MinceR | what, bill clinton is an android, too? | Nov 12 16:52 |
| DaemonFC | No, but his Vice President has been accused of that | Nov 12 16:52 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 12 16:52 |
| DaemonFC | I....am....here....to.....day to talk....about....climate...change | Nov 12 16:53 |
| DaemonFC | but...first...of....all | Nov 12 16:53 |
| DaemonFC | domo....arigato....to...alll.of...you for....attending....this... im...por...tant....meeting | Nov 12 16:54 |
| DaemonFC | ;) | Nov 12 16:54 |
| MinceR | i don't think that suffering of William Shatner Syndrome makes one an android | Nov 12 16:54 |
| MinceR | http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/William_Shatner_Syndrome | Nov 12 16:55 |
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| MinceR | (wow, they haven't nuked this page yet!) | Nov 12 16:55 |
| DaemonFC | William Shatner is easier to listen to than Al Gore | Nov 12 16:55 |
| DaemonFC | maybe it's because he's not exploiting the climate change issue for personal profit | Nov 12 16:55 |
| DaemonFC | have to think about that | Nov 12 16:55 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 12 16:55 |
| MinceR | it's a pity they nuked the Unamerica article | Nov 12 16:56 |
| DaemonFC | the only reason I was hoping Gore would win in 2000 was because he was up against George W. Bush | Nov 12 16:56 |
| DaemonFC | which is even more painful | Nov 12 16:56 |
| DaemonFC | I don't like Al Gore | Nov 12 16:56 |
| MinceR | i still don't see what's so evil about trying to make people care about the dirty ball of iron they live on | Nov 12 16:57 |
| DaemonFC | but someone rigged the election so we'd occupy the middle east for fun and profit | Nov 12 16:57 |
| MinceR | sure, it's a doomed endeavor, but evil? | Nov 12 16:57 |
| DaemonFC | and we got Bush | Nov 12 16:57 |
| DaemonFC | not the profit of the American people | Nov 12 16:57 |
| DaemonFC | for the profit of oil companies | Nov 12 16:57 |
| DaemonFC | Halliburtons | Nov 12 16:58 |
| DaemonFC | Blackwaters | Nov 12 16:58 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 12 16:58 |
| DaemonFC | All the American people got out of this were 6,000+ less 18-40 year olds | Nov 12 16:58 |
| DaemonFC | and a $3 trillion addition to the national debt | Nov 12 16:58 |
| DaemonFC | that's worse than having to listen to Gore talk about climate change | Nov 12 16:59 |
| DaemonFC | at least he's not really hurting anyone | Nov 12 16:59 |
| DaemonFC | the TV has other channels besides C-SPAN | Nov 12 16:59 |
| DaemonFC | I could have lived with Gore | Nov 12 16:59 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Nov 12 16:59 |
| MinceR | TMI | Nov 12 17:00 |
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| DaemonFC | we have a robot that signs legislation | Nov 12 17:00 |
| DaemonFC | but sometimes he's too busy for that | Nov 12 17:00 |
| DaemonFC | and has his robot sign the legislation | Nov 12 17:00 |
| DaemonFC | I might not ever vote again, power gets what power wants | Nov 12 17:01 |
| MinceR | you just help power get what power wants more easily and cheaply, then | Nov 12 17:01 |
| DaemonFC | the voting sham just helps people cope with what is going on | Nov 12 17:02 |
| DaemonFC | like it must be right because "so many people signed off on it" | Nov 12 17:02 |
| DaemonFC | (even if it was fixed) | Nov 12 17:02 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Don't worry about the robot, he's your Pal | Nov 12 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | ;) | Nov 12 17:04 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 12 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | I think we should fire the president, and congress | Nov 12 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | and have a direct democracy | Nov 12 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | so many people have nowhere to be all day thanks to the policies of this government, that they should have no trouble deciding every little thing as needed | Nov 12 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 12 17:05 |
| MinceR | or you could just fix your election system so it's not so strongly biased toward a two-party system :> | Nov 12 17:06 |
| azalyn | oh sure, that'll work. then we'll have a theocracy overnight in the usa. | Nov 12 17:06 |
| DaemonFC | like there isn't one already? | Nov 12 17:06 |
| dyfet | schestowitz: I actually have already drafted what I think are the most important parts of the petition...the concluding paragraphs. I think it gives a good sense where I would likely be going with it... | Nov 12 17:06 |
| azalyn | DaemonFC: it would be much worse.. | Nov 12 17:06 |
| DaemonFC | 99.9% Christian , one Muslim, and a gay man | Nov 12 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | current demographic of our executive and legislative branches | Nov 12 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | of course you're right it could be worse | Nov 12 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | the Christians could run 100% and hang all the Muslims and gay men | Nov 12 17:08 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 12 17:08 |
| DaemonFC | there's more diversity in an Abercrombie and Fitch catelog than in Congress | Nov 12 17:08 |
| DaemonFC | (also nicer to look at) | Nov 12 17:08 |
| MinceR | then the muslims and the gay men could form armies to defend themselves :> | Nov 12 17:08 |
| DaemonFC | "After this is over, we kill you" -Muslims | Nov 12 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 12 17:09 |
| MinceR | the lesbians are lucky because the cultists don't want to believe they exist :> | Nov 12 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | or like to watch | Nov 12 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Nov 12 17:09 |
| MinceR | :D | Nov 12 17:09 |
| dyfet | DaemonFC: There are societies where direct democracy can and did work...it requires a human social culture though | Nov 12 17:09 |
| dyfet | It would otherwise be like telling people they are free without them even knowing what freedom is... | Nov 12 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | Firefox 8 is Firefox 4 with Twitter from what I gather | Nov 12 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | any reason why this should interest me? :) | Nov 12 17:11 |
| MinceR | check the website and decide for yourself | Nov 12 17:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @grote !fsfe launches team for policy work: http://is.gd/R1yaPS Join today and help us fight for software freedom! #FSCONS | Nov 12 17:14 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://techcrunch.com/2011/11/10/facebook-opt-in/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Techcrunch+TechCrunch | Nov 12 17:33 |
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| DaemonFC | http://games.slashdot.org/story/11/11/10/2316220/valve-announces-massive-steam-server-intrusion | Nov 12 17:39 |
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| schestowitz | [17:06] <dyfet> schestowitz: I actually have already drafted what I think are the most important parts of the petition...the concluding paragraphs. I think it gives a good sense where I would likely be going with it... | Nov 12 17:44 |
| schestowitz | excellent | Nov 12 17:44 |
| MinceR | 3 | Nov 12 17:45 |
| MinceR | disregard that | Nov 12 17:45 |
| schestowitz | your password? | Nov 12 17:45 |
| MinceR | nope | Nov 12 17:45 |
| MinceR | :) | Nov 12 17:46 |
| schestowitz | maybe some chat with the GP | Nov 12 17:46 |
| MinceR | GP? | Nov 12 17:46 |
| schestowitz | "How many nipples do you have?" | Nov 12 17:46 |
| schestowitz | :- | Nov 12 17:46 |
| MinceR | lol | Nov 12 17:46 |
| schestowitz | General Practitioner | Nov 12 17:46 |
| schestowitz | UK term | Nov 12 17:46 |
| MinceR | for what? | Nov 12 17:47 |
| schestowitz | like a doctor | Nov 12 17:47 |
| schestowitz | usually people afresh from medical school | Nov 12 17:47 |
| MinceR | ic | Nov 12 17:48 |
| schestowitz | checking out people's rashes and staff | Nov 12 17:48 |
| schestowitz | "Put some talc on it" :-) | Nov 12 17:48 |
| MinceR | staph? | Nov 12 17:48 |
| MinceR | "let's talc about this again in a week" | Nov 12 17:48 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talc | Nov 12 17:48 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: they use IE6 | Nov 12 17:49 |
| MinceR | i know what it is :) | Nov 12 17:49 |
| schestowitz | Maybe they changed last year | Nov 12 17:49 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yeah, but I wanted to check the chemical composition of it (atoms) | Nov 12 17:49 |
| MinceR | :) | Nov 12 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | I may buy a copy of Skyrim if anyone verifies whether it works in Wine or not | Nov 12 17:53 |
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| amarsh04 | schestowitz, did you see these links to a couple of articles about sewing machine patent wars in groklaw.net: http://volokh.com/posts/1241141796.shtml and http://www.law.gmu.edu/assets/files/publications/working_papers/0919StitchinTime.pdf | Nov 12 18:17 |
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| schestowitz | amarsh04: : haven't yet | Nov 12 18:29 |
| schestowitz | but it's a famous war, isn't it? | Nov 12 18:29 |
| amarsh04 | was in the comments on the Barnes & Noble article | Nov 12 18:29 |
| amarsh04 | yes, there was a cartel of a small number of companies owning patents relating to sewing machines | Nov 12 18:30 |
| schestowitz | amarsh04: it's an old page | Nov 12 18:31 |
| amarsh04 | the pdf article was said on groklaw to be more scholarly | Nov 12 18:32 |
| amarsh04 | PJ's article highlighted that patents weren't meant to be a blank cheque for restricting competition | Nov 12 18:36 |
| dyfet | Well they were when patents and letters were issued by the crown...it was one of the reasons for the american revolution ;) | Nov 12 18:37 |
| amarsh04 | hehehe... | Nov 12 18:38 |
| dyfet | We have basically re-established the very reason that they were violently rejected... | Nov 12 18:38 |
| DaemonFC | A Linux distribution from Commodore | Nov 12 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=commodore | Nov 12 18:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] woo, !slashem | Nov 12 18:39 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | connect() timed out! ( http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=commodore ) | Nov 12 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | its site is hosted on Windows Server and ASP.NET | Nov 12 18:39 |
| dyfet | irony :) | Nov 12 18:39 |
| schestowitz | Some people in the comments did not get the key points of b&n | Nov 12 18:39 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft uses trolls | Nov 12 18:39 |
| schestowitz | Like the mafia sends out thugs to beat up those who don't pay protection money | Nov 12 18:40 |
| schestowitz | It's not just about MS signing secret deals over patents it won't name | Nov 12 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | Commodore used to make really nice stuff | Nov 12 18:40 |
| iophk | Whiich points were most often missed or omitted? | Nov 12 18:40 |
| schestowitz | IV should be reported too | Nov 12 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | it was kind of hackish and inelegant ;) | Nov 12 18:40 |
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| dyfet | schestowitz: Yes...and this needs to be reflected in what I write too... | Nov 12 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | but the price was affordable and their hardware was pretty reliable | Nov 12 18:41 |
| schestowitz | The mafia Don would wear a suit and pretend to be a businessman | Nov 12 18:41 |
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| schestowitz | But it's the underworld that did all the minionwork | Nov 12 18:41 |
| schestowitz | IV and MOSAID, for example, need to be studied by regulators | Nov 12 18:42 |
| schestowitz | And Gates is tied to these too | Nov 12 18:42 |
| schestowitz | Mister Patents for 'donation' (limited time) | Nov 12 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | according to Distrowatch, Commodore's Linux OS is Debian based | Nov 12 18:44 |
| DaemonFC | and only available as x86-64 | Nov 12 18:44 |
| *amarsh04 was thinking of the old SVR4 for A3000 | Nov 12 18:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Choisissez @Tuinslak @greetd op een laag pitje werkt ze nog mee. Ze is bvb verantwoordelijk voor @apps http://ur1. ... | Nov 12 18:46 | |
| DaemonFC | it seems to be based on Debian Testing | Nov 12 18:46 |
| dyfet | Commodore mint? ;) | Nov 12 18:46 |
| MinceR | Based on: Debian, Mint | Nov 12 18:46 |
| MinceR | Commodore OS Vision is a 64-bit Linux distribution, based on Linux Mint | Nov 12 18:46 |
| DaemonFC | bah | Nov 12 18:46 |
| MinceR | are we reading different pages? :> | Nov 12 18:47 |
| DaemonFC | must be, I just glanced at the kernel and x.org versions | Nov 12 18:47 |
| dyfet | And I was joking... | Nov 12 18:47 |
| DaemonFC | http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=06982 | Nov 12 18:47 |
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| DaemonFC | Speaking of the Minty Browser Hijack edition of Ubuntu | Nov 12 18:47 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 12 18:47 |
| MinceR | :) | Nov 12 18:48 |
| dyfet | Well, I recall Canonical hijacked Ubuntu browsing before them :) | Nov 12 18:48 |
| MinceR | this might be based on the debian-based mint, though | Nov 12 18:48 |
| DaemonFC | dyfet: On Ubuntu: sudo apt-get purge xul-ext-ubufox | Nov 12 18:48 |
| DaemonFC | on Kubuntu: sudo apt-get install firefox --no-install-recommends | Nov 12 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Nov 12 18:49 |
| dyfet | Yea...exactly...and there was the time they went to yahoo because they could get more money... | Nov 12 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | on Kubuntu, the global menu extension is not needed | Nov 12 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | and the Plasma global menu widget will work with it, but you won't like it | Nov 12 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | slow glitchy menus in Firefox and THunderbird | Nov 12 18:49 |
| MinceR | i won't like any sort of global menu widget | Nov 12 18:50 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 12 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | What do you expect when they're having Firefox render the its menu and hiding it | Nov 12 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | while at the same time, sending it through dbus | Nov 12 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 12 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | I'm only surprised it works in Unity | Nov 12 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not sure what they did to get it to work there | Nov 12 18:51 |
| dyfet | The whole global menu is both stupid and uneeded. There are BETTER ways to solve the problem it claims to solve without having to break and patch every application toolkit | Nov 12 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | I'll have to burn the Mint 12 ISO later | Nov 12 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | it's hard to imagine they could have made GNOME Shell worse than it was | Nov 12 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 12 18:52 |
| dyfet | Yea... | Nov 12 18:52 |
| dyfet | And with far less ability to fix it, too... | Nov 12 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | no, the Shell is easy to extend | Nov 12 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | with Javascript apparently | Nov 12 18:53 |
| dyfet | Yes, the shell is, unity is not... | Nov 12 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | ahh | Nov 12 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | Unity is not meant to be improved upon | Nov 12 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | it's meant as an as-is end user product | Nov 12 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | same goes for Ubuntu as a whole | Nov 12 18:53 |
| dyfet | It is meant to serve marketing purposes, and so the decisions made are wrong for the community as a result | Nov 12 18:53 |
| dyfet | I remember for example when Shuttleworth argued about the placement of the launcher must be fixed on the left side because it must always APPEAR UNDER the ubuntu branding button on the then panel in 11.04. Decision making for inflexibility for marketing purposes, not for users.... | Nov 12 18:55 |
| dyfet | That statement by him said it clearly | Nov 12 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME Shell probably wasn't going to let them be as in your face as they wanted to be | Nov 12 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | which is why they forked GNOME | Nov 12 18:57 |
| dyfet | It may well be...that they felt they could not brand it ubuntu enough... | Nov 12 18:58 |
| DaemonFC | Steve Of Linux has pretty much left Kubuntu alone | Nov 12 18:58 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 12 18:58 |
| dyfet | They are probably lucky :) | Nov 12 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | I'm surprised they even have Kubntu and Xubuntu and Lubuntu | Nov 12 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | well, maybe not surprised at Xubuntu | Nov 12 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | they managed to jam their DRM'd Ubuntu Store into that | Nov 12 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | I figure the DRM store will find its way into Muon and bloat it eventually | Nov 12 19:00 |
| dyfet | Well, they dont have ubuntuone in xubuntu | Nov 12 19:00 |
| dyfet | though they do have it...for windows | Nov 12 19:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Microsoft Gives Up on Competition, Tries to Buy IE Users Instead http://goo.gl/bKgZJ #microsoft #fail #ie | Nov 12 19:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Not Spain's night tonight. #football | Nov 12 19:04 | |
| dyfet | and I think there is actually more genuine community participation in the other buntu's... | Nov 12 19:07 |
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| schestowitz | wb, stefan | Nov 12 19:15 |
| schestowitz | there has just been a little incident I had to attend, so wasn't quite so responsive over the past 2 hours. It ought to be fine now for the rest of the night | Nov 12 19:15 |
| schestowitz | I can't believe this one document I work on gre to the point where it takes up 800MB of RAM just to keep open | Nov 12 19:16 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes it just puts what's not visible off RAM | Nov 12 19:17 |
| schestowitz | But I can't quite grasp why and when | Nov 12 19:17 |
| schestowitz | So it eats up my swap | Nov 12 19:17 |
| MinceR | sounds like an application bug | Nov 12 19:17 |
| DaemonFC | You're using BlOOoated Office again? :) | Nov 12 19:18 |
| Faither | hiho | Nov 12 19:19 |
| MinceR | howdy-ho | Nov 12 19:19 |
| Faither | schestowitz: I haven't been very responsive the past few days either, my head is killing me -.- | Nov 12 19:21 |
| schestowitz | It's funny that Steve ballmer's wife is Connie Ballmer | Nov 12 19:21 |
| schestowitz | formetly Connie Synder from their PR firm | Nov 12 19:21 |
| schestowitz | She goes, "Hi, I'm connie" | Nov 12 19:21 |
| schestowitz | And Stsve goes, "and I'm a Con" | Nov 12 19:22 |
| Faither | xD | Nov 12 19:22 |
| schestowitz | Faither: stress/ | Nov 12 19:22 |
| schestowitz | stress? | Nov 12 19:22 |
| schestowitz | the headache... | Nov 12 19:22 |
| DaemonFC | aspirin | Nov 12 19:22 |
| schestowitz | I've been spending houts speaking to someone this week after pressure at work had negative impact on the head | Nov 12 19:22 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: doesn't always work | Nov 12 19:23 |
| schestowitz | depends on the cause] | Nov 12 19:23 |
| DaemonFC | I find headaches happen when I go without sleep | Nov 12 19:23 |
| Faither | I've been having problems with migrane since i was 6 | Nov 12 19:23 |
| schestowitz | yeah, same here | Nov 12 19:23 |
| schestowitz | esp. if you use coffee to keep awake artificially | Nov 12 19:23 |
| DaemonFC | well, aspirin + caffeine will usually get rid of it | Nov 12 19:23 |
| DaemonFC | it's what I use for migraines | Nov 12 19:23 |
| Faither | DaemonFC: I can eat them until i burn a hole into my stomache or bleed out of every orfice without any effect | Nov 12 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I try not to get strung out or go without sleep | Nov 12 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | those bring them on | Nov 12 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | and once they're there, they're there to stay for hours | Nov 12 19:25 |
| Faither | normally when I could get a night of sleep they'd be gone | Nov 12 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | Faither: Try the enteric coated aspirin | Nov 12 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | it dissolves in your intestinal tract instead of your stomach | Nov 12 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | if you use regular aspirin enough, you'll get an ulcer | Nov 12 19:27 |
| Faither | I'll go ask my pharmacist, thanks for the tip | Nov 12 19:27 |
| MinceR | or you could try paracetamol :> | Nov 12 19:27 |
| Faither | -.- | Nov 12 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | acetaminophen | Nov 12 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Nov 12 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | you communist | Nov 12 19:28 |
| MinceR | that's what they call it in the USA, yes | Nov 12 19:28 |
| Faither | I've used ibuprofene | Nov 12 19:28 |
| MinceR | you nazi | Nov 12 19:28 |
| MinceR | iirc it's not recommended to keep using ibuprofen for long | Nov 12 19:28 |
| MinceR | but i'm not a pharmacist :> | Nov 12 19:28 |
| Faither | I don't even have any at my home right now | Nov 12 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | prescription strength is 800 mg every 6-8 hours for Ibuprofen | Nov 12 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | over the counter strength is half that | Nov 12 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | you can take 800 mg of the otc stuff and it's the exact same as a prescription dose | Nov 12 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | but you shouldn't make it a habit | Nov 12 19:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] hmmm... | Nov 12 19:31 | |
| DaemonFC | acetaminophen is probably the nastiest OTC pain killer there is | Nov 12 19:31 |
| Faither | I'd rather eradicate the source of my headache but so far no one could figure it out | Nov 12 19:31 |
| MinceR | it's your head :> | Nov 12 19:31 |
| Faither | MinceR: now that you mention it | Nov 12 19:31 |
| Faither | xD | Nov 12 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz can recommend a good chiropractor for that | Nov 12 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 12 19:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ah, thanks | Nov 12 19:32 | |
| DaemonFC | speaking of which, I need to get one of those heated neck pillows | Nov 12 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | my neck has been bothering me | Nov 12 19:33 |
| *DaemonFC is falling apart at the ripe old age of 27 | Nov 12 19:33 | |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 12 19:33 |
| Faither | same here xD | Nov 12 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | I've considered getting an electric blanket about every winter but never do | Nov 12 19:34 |
| Faither | I'm 28 though xD | Nov 12 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | speaking of toasty warm things | Nov 12 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | there's rumors that those cause cancer | Nov 12 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | really old models cause house fires | Nov 12 19:34 |
| Faither | cozy xD | Nov 12 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | but, it would probably save electricity | Nov 12 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | turn the heat off at night and stay under the blanket | Nov 12 19:35 |
| Faither | Oh i thought you ere talking about the exess heat of the fire xD | Nov 12 19:36 |
| MinceR | yeah, the house fire keeps you warm for the rest of your life, and doesn't use electricity | Nov 12 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Nov 12 19:37 |
| olorin_ | Not when the fuel runs out... | Nov 12 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | he said for the rest of your life | Nov 12 19:37 |
| MinceR | you're the fuel :> | Nov 12 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | you die, the house finishes burning down later | Nov 12 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | all the other tenants in this building smoke | Nov 12 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | I keep waiting for one of them to fall asleep with a cigarette in their hand and torch the place | Nov 12 19:39 |
| MinceR | "Give a man a fire and he's warm for the day. But set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life." -- Terry Pratchett | Nov 12 19:39 |
| olorin_ | DaemonFC: Good point. :-p | Nov 12 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | what's ridiculous is that for a while there were these two snobs living downstairs | Nov 12 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | bitching at the landlord because they claimed they smelled cigarette smoke coming through their ceiling | Nov 12 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | kind of makes me wonder how many of those damned things my next door neighbor is smoking | Nov 12 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | I always have to hold my breath when I'm walking past her apartment | Nov 12 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | it smells like a tobacco field went up | Nov 12 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 12 19:41 |
| schestowitz | l9ol | Nov 12 19:42 |
| Faither | Nothing beats the smell of cold tabacco smoke -.- | Nov 12 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | rotting skunk for air freshener in that hallway | Nov 12 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | geez | Nov 12 19:43 |
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| Faither | any new i missed ? | Nov 12 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c0/Striped_skunk_Freddy.jpg | Nov 12 19:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Nov 12 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | a pet skunk | Nov 12 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | ok..... | Nov 12 19:50 |
| Faither | doesn't look too happy | Nov 12 19:51 |
| schestowitz | "Chakra rocks. So fast and beautiful. The only weird thing is having essentially 3 package management systems for 3 different styles of packages (standard, CCR and bundles ). Wish they'd tie it all into one (which they may be doing, they're going to a new package manager. I don't know.) " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/794595 | Nov 12 19:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 12 19:51 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: not skunk | Nov 12 19:51 |
| schestowitz | a skank | Nov 12 19:51 |
| schestowitz | dawn | Nov 12 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Skunk_being_cuddled.jpg | Nov 12 19:51 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] [Phoronix] The Increasing Size Of The !Linux Kernel http://goo.gl/wNTAj | Nov 12 19:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] The Increasing Size Of The Linux Kernel .::. Size~: 16.48 KB | Nov 12 19:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] 699 Exo-Planets discovered. Remember how people made fun of #startrek? These planets are even weirder! | Nov 12 19:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] gdy biskup wypowiada się na temat moralności wiadomo, że będzie śmiesznie http://rys.io/pl/44 !polska !poland | Nov 12 19:59 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Tolerancja dla Kościoła :: RysioBrag .::. Size~: 6.86 KB | Nov 12 19:59 |
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| Faither | http://s.gullipics.com/image/t/e/i/hq2x3b-jwz3dg-smzi/img.jpeg | Nov 12 20:02 |
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| MinceR | :D | Nov 12 20:04 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Nov 12 20:07 |
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| Faither | this is awseome! | Nov 12 20:08 |
| MinceR | it's also fake | Nov 12 20:09 |
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| Faither | wb | Nov 12 20:13 |
| schestowitz | Singer calls Novell... with similar fonts in the name | Nov 12 20:14 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceE3xcV0rfI&feature=youtube_gdata | Nov 12 20:14 |
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| schestowitz | just uploaded, odd | Nov 12 20:14 |
| schestowitz | indeed | Nov 12 20:18 |
| schestowitz | oh | Nov 12 20:19 |
| schestowitz | I got cxut off from freenode | Nov 12 20:19 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] England beat reigning World Champions, make them World Champions right? It's like pillow fights for titles !football lol | Nov 12 20:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Now that the toolchain is finally built, its time to actually start building Linux From Scratch :) | Nov 12 21:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Shared a post "BREAKING: Berlusconi is out. http://ur1.ca/5rtc5... http://b1t.it/T7m | Nov 12 21:39 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - BREAKING: Berlusconi is out. … .::. Size~: 44.24 KB | Nov 12 21:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Hmm. Just got my 1,000th follower on twitter. Need to pick the pace up on identi.ca. | Nov 12 21:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] What are your picks and must-see talks so far from the #LCA2012 schedule? http://t.co/hgMyLPfe | Nov 12 22:01 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 12 22:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ex-PM Berlusconi nunca teve papas na língua, diz Globo News. mas na Grécia, ex-PM e PM ambos têm Papa no sobrenome :-) #nooss | Nov 12 22:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @eff Hollywood's new war on software freedom and Internet innovation https://eff.org/r.5Gk #Blacklist #SOPA | Nov 12 22:27 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Hollywood's New War on Software Freedom and Internet Innovation | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 31.34 KB | Nov 12 22:27 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] The Privatization of Copyright Lawmaking http://identi.ca/url/56693210 #c11 #DMCA #E-PARASITE !ppca !acta | Nov 12 22:54 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Privatization of Copyright Lawmaking | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 32.44 KB | Nov 12 22:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] Time to switch to minor labels then. :) | Nov 12 23:01 | |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: How long do you think before MS gets so desperate it asks Unix-like users to install Wine to run Ie9? ;) | Nov 12 23:01 |
| _Goblin | Lol | Nov 12 23:02 |
| MinceR | s/asks/pays/ | Nov 12 23:02 |
| MinceR | FTFY | Nov 12 23:02 |
| schestowitz | they get to profile users with MSIE | Nov 12 23:06 |
| schestowitz | It's a spyware | Nov 12 23:06 |
| schestowitz | daata collector | Nov 12 23:06 |
| schestowitz | phones home about pages you visit | Nov 12 23:07 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: how's it going? | Nov 12 23:10 |
| schestowitz | Thanks fot the IE link, I will use it tomorrow | Nov 12 23:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @eff Hollywood's new war on software freedom and Internet innovation https://eff.org/r.5Gk #Blacklist #SOPA v @openbytes | Nov 12 23:17 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Hollywood's New War on Software Freedom and Internet Innovation | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 31.34 KB | Nov 12 23:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @chromatic JAR files are so large because they're 95% boilerplate evil by volume, not by weight. | Nov 12 23:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] It's possible the Sky New Twitter feed has been compromised again. They posted and then deleted that J Murdoch had been arrested | Nov 12 23:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Relevant link for that Murdoch story http://ur1.ca/5rxpc | Nov 12 23:26 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: UPDATE: Sky News Tweet Stream Deletes Tweet Of James Murdoch Arrest .::. Size~: 94.23 KB | Nov 12 23:26 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: Yeah..very well....just getting myself organized! | Nov 12 23:28 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: didn't get a response about the visit down south | Nov 12 23:29 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: ? | Nov 12 23:29 |
| schestowitz | I might have to cancel it, was waiting to hear | Nov 12 23:29 |
| schestowitz | oh, maybe you didn't get that mail? | Nov 12 23:29 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: South? | Nov 12 23:30 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: no mate I don't think I got that | Nov 12 23:32 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin lives in Louisiana | Nov 12 23:32 |
| schestowitz | I wrote: | Nov 12 23:33 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 12 23:33 |
| schestowitz | I will come down to London Friday 2nd December 2011 or the day before. | Nov 12 23:33 |
| schestowitz | Will you be busy? Is it too early to say? I can maybe stay after Friday, | Nov 12 23:33 |
| schestowitz | too. | Nov 12 23:33 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 12 23:33 |
| schestowitz | But now I sort of cancelled it | Nov 12 23:33 |
| schestowitz | Have you resent the letter yet? I think I recall you saying that you have, so I told them :-) | Nov 12 23:34 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: I got some feedback about the show today | Nov 12 23:34 |
| schestowitz | Very long | Nov 12 23:34 |
| schestowitz | Let me check the back end stats | Nov 12 23:34 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: RE: Letter, yes its sent | Nov 12 23:34 |
| schestowitz | 41019 831494 11525152 | Nov 12 23:35 |
| schestowitz | [root@techrights ~]# ./count-mp3.sh | Nov 12 23:35 |
| schestowitz | 2939 38880 433204 | Nov 12 23:35 |
| schestowitz | This is weird | Nov 12 23:35 |
| schestowitz | for less than a week with not a single new show | Nov 12 23:35 |
| schestowitz | 40k+ oggs | Nov 12 23:35 |
| schestowitz | Maybe some web spiders | Nov 12 23:35 |
| schestowitz | let's say 65 shows | Nov 12 23:36 |
| schestowitz | in 5 days | Nov 12 23:36 |
| schestowitz | so about 10 download each per day in MP3 format? | Nov 12 23:36 |
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| schestowitz | and a lot more in ogg | Nov 12 23:36 |
| schestowitz | there is something more complex going on, and with proxy in front it's hard to make sense of | Nov 12 23:40 |
| schestowitz | Stat software doesn't work well cause evetything comes through the same IP | Nov 12 23:40 |
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