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| schestowitz | _Goblin: yeah, I wrote about it | Nov 27 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | didn't know about the mint deal, though | Nov 27 00:02 |
| schestowitz | it's not so mint at all, it's just embarrassing :-) | Nov 27 00:02 |
| schestowitz | Almost like Canonical and Yahoo! | Nov 27 00:03 |
| _Goblin | duck duck can go | Nov 27 00:04 |
| _Goblin | it certainly went from my site a while back | Nov 27 00:04 |
| _Goblin | I threw it on the Bing about 3 months ago I think. | Nov 27 00:04 |
| schestowitz | xface told me about the tie to bong | Nov 27 00:05 |
| _Goblin | I think Bing is the far better name for it.,.... a heap or a pile is such an apt description | Nov 27 00:12 |
| MinceR | i think bìng is a better name | Nov 27 00:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[piracy/@piracy] Court Report Day 59 http://j.mp/vr6EOF #piracy #reclaimtheseas #thetrial | Nov 27 00:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @zotz interesting point, that. | Nov 27 00:42 | |
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| MinceR | gn | Nov 27 00:50 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @zotz Akin to how !GPL source requirement satisfied by simultaneous-to-binary provision of GPL'd source solely to immediate recipient | Nov 27 00:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] I think my general unfamiliarity with works of HG #Wells !disturbed @bkuhn | Nov 27 00:58 | |
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| _Goblin | Brendan_T: You ready for the answer to your Q you put on my site a while back? | Nov 27 01:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] How To Be Prepared When You’re Dead Broke - Modern Survival Blog – surviving uncertain times - #preppers http://goo.gl/XuP4f | Nov 27 01:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Also anything else would break my heart. | Nov 27 01:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Banishment policy is always in flux. Calvinball rules. | Nov 27 01:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] yeah, ditto. | Nov 27 01:20 | |
| Brendan_T | what was this? | Nov 27 01:28 |
| _Goblin | did you post a question to me on my blog? | Nov 27 01:28 |
| Brendan_T | i cant remember doing it but i might have, link? | Nov 27 01:29 |
| _Goblin | yep...standby.... | Nov 27 01:30 |
| _Goblin | the reason I thought it was you was because on the email you gave ... the surname began with T | Nov 27 01:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] There is a second Mayan reference to apocalypse in 2012, Mexico archaeologists admit | Mail Online #xfiles http://goo.gl/DJy0S | Nov 27 01:30 | |
| _Goblin | (obviously I won't repeat the email publically | Nov 27 01:30 |
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| _Goblin | http://openbytes.wordpress.com/2011/09/25/review-sabayon-6-xfce-and-a-look-at-my-migration-away-from-gnome/ | Nov 27 01:30 |
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| _Goblin | I'll PM you the IP and email address. | Nov 27 01:31 |
| Brendan_T | yeah that was me | Nov 27 01:31 |
| _Goblin | cool | Nov 27 01:32 |
| _Goblin | thought it was someone being malicious | Nov 27 01:32 |
| _Goblin | short answer... | Nov 27 01:32 |
| _Goblin | naming conventions mean nothing to me..... I support FOSS because in every instance I use it, its better software....I care not for any ethos if its "product" is inferior and don't support a piece of software merely because its FOSS | Nov 27 01:33 |
| Brendan_T | maybe i read techbytes as techrights | Nov 27 01:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Second leak of climate emails.... | Mail Online - #agw #ecotretas http://goo.gl/prMiW | Nov 27 01:33 | |
| _Goblin | I also think Gnu/Linux adds another layer of confusion to the people who I am introducing Linux too (the mainstream users) | Nov 27 01:33 |
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| _Goblin | I don't however have any issue with people insisting on Gnu/Linux.....Its just I merely wont use it for the reasons above. | Nov 27 01:34 |
| Brendan_T | oh ok, i use it because it gives me control over my computer and i see proprietary software as unfairly taking that away | Nov 27 01:35 |
| _Goblin | let me ask you this..... | Nov 27 01:35 |
| _Goblin | Do you drive? | Nov 27 01:35 |
| Brendan_T | nope | Nov 27 01:36 |
| _Goblin | ah....ok...can you humour me and imagine you do.... | Nov 27 01:36 |
| Brendan_T | yes | Nov 27 01:36 |
| _Goblin | should as a driver I leave how to fix my own engine with my own choice of parts or should I merely give it to a garage who will have control over how much I spend? | Nov 27 01:37 |
| _Goblin | *leave should read learn | Nov 27 01:37 |
| Brendan_T | its up to you, but it doesnt compare to software | Nov 27 01:37 |
| _Goblin | you see computing (as anything) has many people who love it as an interest.... it has many people who use it as a tool...if we were to empower ourselves over every facet of life then we wouldn't have any time for anything. | Nov 27 01:38 |
| _Goblin | But software does compare to a car when you consider that the vast majority of software users merely want it to perform a task for them and have no interest in how/why it works. | Nov 27 01:38 |
| _Goblin | same with a car.... I don't care how it works, I just want it to work | Nov 27 01:39 |
| _Goblin | the same questions can be asked of a car as they can software..... | Nov 27 01:39 |
| Brendan_T | even if it tracks your position everywere and records your voice chat with passengers? | Nov 27 01:39 |
| _Goblin | is my anti-theft tracker, tracking me now? | Nov 27 01:39 |
| _Goblin | and Brendan_T the recording voice and monitoring yourself argument is moot in relation to software as certainly here in the UK you have digitally signed away most of those rights at an ISP level anyway...regardless of what software you use. | Nov 27 01:40 |
| _Goblin | I have no clue if everything I do is not monitored by O2. | Nov 27 01:41 |
| _Goblin | so FOSS with its open code makes no difference | Nov 27 01:41 |
| Brendan_T | people dont need to care about how it works, they need to care about what giving other people control means | Nov 27 01:41 |
| _Goblin | yes I agree | Nov 27 01:41 |
| Brendan_T | well hopefully we can get everyone using encryption | Nov 27 01:41 |
| _Goblin | but take any proprietary service.......as long as a user signs up with a position of knowledge then its not a problem... | Nov 27 01:42 |
| _Goblin | you want my proprietary service? You abide by my rules. | Nov 27 01:42 |
| Brendan_T | if they have a position of knowledge they will not want to sign up | Nov 27 01:42 |
| _Goblin | I think the argument is stricter policies on T&C as in more accessable to users to read, to make it very clear what they are signing up for..... | Nov 27 01:42 |
| _Goblin | I know Google tracks me...I still use the service...I use it after wieghing up the facts of what it does to the need I have for their services. | Nov 27 01:43 |
| _Goblin | and if they don't sign up then thats good..... the company will have to change its policies. | Nov 27 01:43 |
| Brendan_T | even if someone doesnt care about how the software works, they still benefit from it being free software | Nov 27 01:44 |
| _Goblin | very true | Nov 27 01:44 |
| _Goblin | but then lets look at a SIP client compared to Skype. | Nov 27 01:44 |
| _Goblin | My relatives don't use SIP | Nov 27 01:44 |
| _Goblin | its unreasonable for me to get them to change (and get them to get their contacts to change too) | Nov 27 01:45 |
| Brendan_T | and that suddenly justifies skype? | Nov 27 01:45 |
| _Goblin | so I use Skype service on the understanding that everything I say COULD be monitored. | Nov 27 01:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Continued support for zombie banks threaten healthy banks. http://head4.me/5 | Nov 27 01:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Black Friday Violence Worse Than Ever As American Consumers Fight Over Deals Like Crazed Animals - #usa #blackfriday http://goo.gl/ioaM7 | Nov 27 01:45 | |
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| _Goblin | nope certainly not....but since I use it on an understanding, its hypocritical for me to say its bad. | Nov 27 01:45 |
| _Goblin | if others don't want the posibility of monitoring, then of course an alternative is great. | Nov 27 01:46 |
| _Goblin | however as I say, its all moot since nobody knows what goes on at an ISP level anyway. | Nov 27 01:46 |
| Brendan_T | not really, you just admit that your are forced into it | Nov 27 01:46 |
| Brendan_T | your family doesnt understand | Nov 27 01:46 |
| _Goblin | yep. but if I felt strongly enough, I wouldn't use it. | Nov 27 01:46 |
| _Goblin | and its a matter of (rightly or wrongly) convenience. | Nov 27 01:47 |
| Brendan_T | the proprietary aspect still matters regardless of isp | Nov 27 01:47 |
| _Goblin | yes it does, however it goes back to my previous point..... I use FOSS because its better software not because its FOSS..... | Nov 27 01:47 |
| Brendan_T | right so at this point your not actually making an argument | Nov 27 01:47 |
| Brendan_T | i suppose i can only recommend you try learn about why you should care | Nov 27 01:48 |
| _Goblin | what I am saying is that there should be transparancy of T&C, however proprietary does not equal bad and I don't support FOSS merely because its FOSS..... | Nov 27 01:48 |
| _Goblin | Brendan_T: I do care about intrusions of privacy.... but I can't bleet if Ive digitally agreed to them | Nov 27 01:49 |
| Brendan_T | yes you can, because you've been pressured to agree to them | Nov 27 01:49 |
| _Goblin | like I say, this is a T&C or legislative issue. | Nov 27 01:49 |
| _Goblin | Brendan_T: I was not pressured...I did not have to use them....I get free calls on my mobile so I have no need for Skype.....its just convenient that I have the facility if I want to contact them on my pc too | Nov 27 01:50 |
| _Goblin | so it comes to weighing up the privacy possibility and convenience.... | Nov 27 01:50 |
| Brendan_T | convenience is still pressure. i suppose the only thing that removes the pressure is not caring | Nov 27 01:51 |
| _Goblin | and until you can tell me that nobody is being monitored at an ISP level, the whole point is moot | Nov 27 01:51 |
| Brendan_T | that way you dont resist, thus no pressure | Nov 27 01:51 |
| Brendan_T | no it isint | Nov 27 01:51 |
| _Goblin | what so by using SIP my privacy is assured? | Nov 27 01:51 |
| Brendan_T | locally, its the difference between controlling ones own computer or not | Nov 27 01:51 |
| Brendan_T | and at that point only encryption is left on the sip side of things | Nov 27 01:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] blogged !InconstantMoon #SpecialFeatures Christie University: English Curriculum !PublicDomain #betterlatethannever http://ur1.ca/64fcu | Nov 27 01:52 | |
| Brendan_T | i didnt say that | Nov 27 01:52 |
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| Brendan_T | im saying you then have control over your own computer | Nov 27 01:52 |
| _Goblin | how? How does the average user have more control when using say SIP over Skype when you can't assure that no monitoring happens at an ISP level anyway? | Nov 27 01:53 |
| Brendan_T | also, i didnt really know anything about techrights when i made that post so i had a lot of assumptions about opinions and such | Nov 27 01:53 |
| _Goblin | no probs | Nov 27 01:53 |
| Brendan_T | you should read about the issues of proprietary software | Nov 27 01:53 |
| _Goblin | I have... | Nov 27 01:53 |
| _Goblin | many many times... | Nov 27 01:53 |
| _Goblin | ok... | Nov 27 01:53 |
| _Goblin | why do you buy ready prepared food? | Nov 27 01:53 |
| _Goblin | why not make it yourself? | Nov 27 01:53 |
| _Goblin | convenience or control by the supermarket? | Nov 27 01:54 |
| _Goblin | its a choice. | Nov 27 01:54 |
| _Goblin | just like software... | Nov 27 01:54 |
| Brendan_T | still very different | Nov 27 01:55 |
| _Goblin | its about control...passing the buck to others....just like when you use proprietary | Nov 27 01:55 |
| _Goblin | why don't we all generate our own electricity instead of being held to ransom by electricity companies | Nov 27 01:55 |
| _Goblin | again....convenience... | Nov 27 01:55 |
| Brendan_T | there is no restriction on you sharing it with your friend though, or duplicating it if you could | Nov 27 01:55 |
| _Goblin | ah.... | Nov 27 01:56 |
| _Goblin | but thats an issue of law....not proprietary software itself. | Nov 27 01:56 |
| _Goblin | Copyright Act | Nov 27 01:56 |
| _Goblin | I can have proprietary software which is allowed to be duplicated.... | Nov 27 01:56 |
| _Goblin | so maybe the issue is more with law then with the software itself. | Nov 27 01:56 |
| Brendan_T | but not modified | Nov 27 01:57 |
| _Goblin | tell me a law which prohibits modification. | Nov 27 01:57 |
| _Goblin | there is none. | Nov 27 01:57 |
| Brendan_T | and being modifiable is needed to have control | Nov 27 01:57 |
| _Goblin | I'm sure people would like you to believe there is. | Nov 27 01:57 |
| Brendan_T | well, not providing source does that | Nov 27 01:57 |
| _Goblin | there is no law in the UK which makes it an offense (either civilly or criminally) to modify code of proprietary software. | Nov 27 01:58 |
| _Goblin | ok.... | Nov 27 01:58 |
| Brendan_T | but you cant, because its binary | Nov 27 01:58 |
| _Goblin | but how many users do you think would be able to modify their software? | Nov 27 01:58 |
| _Goblin | I'd say it would be less than 1/10,000 | Nov 27 01:58 |
| Brendan_T | it doesnt matter, because they still benefit | Nov 27 01:58 |
| _Goblin | yep. but then one could argue that a closed proprietary package actually helps innovation as people find a solution themselves. | Nov 27 01:59 |
| _Goblin | theres plenty of examples. | Nov 27 01:59 |
| Brendan_T | because if someone puts in something malicious, people will know about it and it will get forked, then youll find yourself using that one because the original will die | Nov 27 01:59 |
| _Goblin | name one proprietary piece of software that has done that.... | Nov 27 02:00 |
| Brendan_T | i dont understand that | Nov 27 02:00 |
| Brendan_T | include malicious code? | Nov 27 02:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] << at my local !NaNoWriMo #nightofwritingdangerously ... unplugging | Nov 27 02:00 | |
| _Goblin | did OO/LibreOffice get where it is through modifying MSoffice? | Nov 27 02:00 |
| _Goblin | and lets consider malicious.......theres plenty of monitoring software out there which can tell you what data is leaving your system....you don't need to look at the code.... | Nov 27 02:01 |
| Brendan_T | i dont quite get your previous question | Nov 27 02:01 |
| _Goblin | what I meant was.... | Nov 27 02:01 |
| _Goblin | OO/Libreoffice is a fantastic suite......it never had access to MSoffice code and one could argue that the competition with MSoffice allows innovation since people are not just modifiying existing code.... | Nov 27 02:02 |
| _Goblin | (or code of MSoffice anyway) | Nov 27 02:02 |
| _Goblin | and name a proprietary piece of software which doesn't have an alternative in FOSS land? | Nov 27 02:03 |
| Brendan_T | sure but its hardly an argument to justify proprietary software | Nov 27 02:03 |
| _Goblin | no you are right... | Nov 27 02:03 |
| _Goblin | but then the choice to use should be on an individual basis depending on requirement....not merely a belief in an ethos. | Nov 27 02:03 |
| Brendan_T | big modern games, high end video editors | Nov 27 02:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] So, Ho Ching is a PAP stalwart. Did not know that. http://ur1.ca/64fsk | Nov 27 02:03 | |
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| Brendan_T | but this choice doesnt really exist, we are slaves to our environment | Nov 27 02:04 |
| _Goblin | well in respect of games....thats hardly of life changing importance to people and high end video? Not sure the average user is interested. | Nov 27 02:04 |
| _Goblin | Brendan_T: we are slaves to our environment in every facet of our lives. | Nov 27 02:04 |
| Brendan_T | yep | Nov 27 02:05 |
| _Goblin | but if we were to have a FOSS type ethos to everything, it would be impossible to live.... | Nov 27 02:05 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: schestowitz Duck Duck Go is built on and contributes to open source according to Mint by the way! For example it says it here: http://www.linuxmint.com/rel_lisa_whatsnew.php | Nov 27 02:05 |
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| _Goblin | unfortunately there comes a time when you have to hand control over to others.... | Nov 27 02:05 |
| _Goblin | if we were to not support the oil companies....who'd dig for oil? | Nov 27 02:06 |
| _Goblin | sadly thats the way things work.... | Nov 27 02:06 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: schestowitz Also it's default to make money, and I think they can form other serach engines as well that are in Mint, and well Google is a monoplgy when it comes to search really, and competition tends to be good | Nov 27 02:06 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: schestowitz as for the thing about it using Bing on the backend and then not showing open source results properly, that may be ture, but I don't care much about search anwyay. | Nov 27 02:06 |
| sebsebseb | anyway | Nov 27 02:06 |
| _Goblin | is it right? no. Is there are quick fix or easy solution....unfortunately not... All we can do is try to live our lives as enlightened as possible fully aware of whatever contract or t&C we enter into.# | Nov 27 02:07 |
| Brendan_T | and free software aims to change the way it works with computers, because its imporatnt | Nov 27 02:07 |
| _Goblin | and I'd agree totally... | Nov 27 02:07 |
| Brendan_T | and yet you have no motivation for it | Nov 27 02:07 |
| _Goblin | however....I won't hobble my computer with a less functional package just because the one that fits my needs is proprietary | Nov 27 02:07 |
| Brendan_T | instead use whats most convenient | Nov 27 02:07 |
| _Goblin | convenience is one facet | Nov 27 02:08 |
| _Goblin | and if I make a stand.... | Nov 27 02:08 |
| _Goblin | lets say I refuse to use mp3....... | Nov 27 02:08 |
| _Goblin | Ive now cut myself off from many people who recommend stuff on jamendo | Nov 27 02:08 |
| _Goblin | how will my "protest" change anything? | Nov 27 02:08 |
| Brendan_T | you can use mp3, just dont give mp3's to anyone else, give them ogg or flac | Nov 27 02:09 |
| Brendan_T | its at least better than doing nothing | Nov 27 02:09 |
| _Goblin | Do you think the mainstream user cares? | Nov 27 02:09 |
| Brendan_T | in the same way that the fsf's protests have already changed a lot | Nov 27 02:09 |
| _Goblin | As I said recently.... the biggest threat to foss is apethy by the mainstream user. | Nov 27 02:09 |
| Brendan_T | no,but i think the reason is that they are not educated | Nov 27 02:10 |
| _Goblin | but you can't make them interested. | Nov 27 02:10 |
| _Goblin | most people have no interest in computers and use them as a tool...coming down to the convenience point again | Nov 27 02:10 |
| _Goblin | just like if you tried to convince me to fix my own car..... I have no interest in doing that. | Nov 27 02:10 |
| Brendan_T | so as people interested in computers, lets do our best to give computer freedom to all computer users | Nov 27 02:11 |
| _Goblin | you see this is the problem all along...... | Nov 27 02:11 |
| Brendan_T | there are many many parts of life i dont care about, but i hope the people who do are trying to make it better for everyone | Nov 27 02:11 |
| _Goblin | the FSF has been busy saying don't use this don't use that..... I show the benefits of foss by showcasing to new users the experience they could have if they moved from windows. | Nov 27 02:11 |
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| Brendan_T | and its a more effective way to get them half way there, i agree | Nov 27 02:12 |
| _Goblin | the FSF promotes distro's which to be fair would hobble the new user....instead of easing someone in slowly...you have an approved distro throwing them in 100%..... no mp3, no proprietary gfx drivers etc etc.... | Nov 27 02:13 |
| Brendan_T | but then its important to get as many of those people caring about freedom so it can be sustainable | Nov 27 02:13 |
| _Goblin | the end user (wrongly) sees a hobbled system and goes back to windows. | Nov 27 02:13 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: Anybody here Yes fans? | Nov 27 02:13 |
| Brendan_T | i realise that, and using a lesser free system to actually get them part of the way there is tactically a good idea | Nov 27 02:14 |
| _Goblin | The FSF is a great organization, but in my view they go out getting the new user interested in entirely the wrong way... | Nov 27 02:14 |
| Brendan_T | but leaving them there and educating them none of why it matters isnt, i tihnk | Nov 27 02:14 |
| _Goblin | matter of opinion.....I've introduced 60+ users to Linux and the only point of interest for them was that it did their tasks better than Windows. | Nov 27 02:15 |
| Brendan_T | i know, but it doesnt nullify the imporance of freedom | Nov 27 02:15 |
| _Goblin | I can't convince them of any ethos....they are not interested....they are however now Linux users. | Nov 27 02:15 |
| Brendan_T | just makes the problem harder | Nov 27 02:15 |
| _Goblin | ok one last point.... | Nov 27 02:16 |
| Brendan_T | and are cause a huge problem in free software by using things like ubuntu which dont care | Nov 27 02:16 |
| _Goblin | I write a piece code....... a proprietary package....wheres my freedom to release it as such without insinuation that it is in someway wrong or may contain malicious code? | Nov 27 02:16 |
| _Goblin | or take away control? | Nov 27 02:17 |
| Brendan_T | conflicting with the users freedoms | Nov 27 02:17 |
| _Goblin | Look at Minecraft.....is that an exercise in taking away control or is that a game which many people love? | Nov 27 02:17 |
| Brendan_T | it is not intrinsically bad, but it makes a shity world | Nov 27 02:17 |
| _Goblin | how do you build a catalitic converter? | Nov 27 02:18 |
| _Goblin | or a Hadron Collider? | Nov 27 02:18 |
| XFaCE | The problem is that maintaining individual freedom vs societal freedom as a whole | Nov 27 02:18 |
| _Goblin | knowledge is power....if people feel they have no freedom, they can learn to code themselves. | Nov 27 02:18 |
| _Goblin | proprietary software is afterall only built by people like you and me. | Nov 27 02:18 |
| XFaCE | You can give everybody equal freedom (GPL), or you can give everybody the opportunity to divide Freedom amongst themselves (WTFPL) | Nov 27 02:19 |
| Brendan_T | your points are fine but i dont understand how you many to justify it backwards - i.i nearly nobody cares therefor nobody should care | Nov 27 02:19 |
| Brendan_T | i.e* | Nov 27 02:19 |
| XFaCE | With the latter approach, someone must lose | Nov 27 02:19 |
| _Goblin | I'm not saying nobody should care, but what Im saying is that the arguments against proprietary for a world of free and open is not black and white | Nov 27 02:20 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: I also think we have to realize that proprietary software is here to stay for a long time. | Nov 27 02:20 |
| _Goblin | yep.... | Nov 27 02:20 |
| _Goblin | especially in the gaming world | Nov 27 02:20 |
| XFaCE | I think the best way isn't too attack proprietary software or have the attitude of that rather | Nov 27 02:21 |
| XFaCE | but instead level the playing field | Nov 27 02:21 |
| XFaCE | kill software patents | Nov 27 02:21 |
| _Goblin | but then is that bad? If people don't like it they can choose not to buy.....I don't think anyone will be hurt by not playing computer games. | Nov 27 02:21 |
| XFaCE | implement strong open standards toward interoperatiblity | Nov 27 02:21 |
| Brendan_T | thats false | Nov 27 02:21 |
| _Goblin | XFaCE: agree that is certainly a step forward | Nov 27 02:21 |
| _Goblin | and the copyright act needs modification too | Nov 27 02:21 |
| XFaCE | Remove the illegality of to breaking digital looks or ban DRM outright | Nov 27 02:22 |
| Brendan_T | people hardly have choices | Nov 27 02:22 |
| abeNd-org | sure, convince the people trying to kill one another over a PS3 on blackfriday they don't need to play video games to save themselves over some debate about proprietary software they could care less about | Nov 27 02:22 |
| _Goblin | but then Brendan_T if you like the taste of pepsi you either buy it or don't....there's no recipe for you to have. | Nov 27 02:22 |
| XFaCE | Reduce the amount of years for copyrights/patents/trademarks (the latter not such a problem) | Nov 27 02:22 |
| _Goblin | yep agreed | Nov 27 02:23 |
| _Goblin | 5 years | Nov 27 02:23 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: That isn't real choice, as Carlin would say | Nov 27 02:23 |
| _Goblin | no its not....but it highlights the choice over alternative... | Nov 27 02:23 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: We have the illusion of choice, and considering the Black Friday masturbation, I'm starting to belive it | Nov 27 02:24 |
| XFaCE | Watching the news on BF events was absolutely sickening | Nov 27 02:24 |
| _Goblin | You see whilst all this debate about free is going on the proprietary companies are actually targetting the users and making the money....the FSF should move more towards actually showcasing rather than a list of do's and donts. | Nov 27 02:24 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: Like Trisquel does | Nov 27 02:25 |
| _Goblin | Windows 7 Sins........I remember that... | Nov 27 02:25 |
| _Goblin | appalling..... | Nov 27 02:25 |
| Brendan_T | the difference being nobody magically gets control over some important aspect of my life that transports all my personal data when i drink pepsi | Nov 27 02:25 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: But true | Nov 27 02:25 |
| _Goblin | it was merely a rallying cry for the choir.....won't attract any new users at all | Nov 27 02:25 |
| Brendan_T | i dont drink pepsi though, not any fizzy drinks really | Nov 27 02:25 |
| XFaCE | Brendan_T: Not even ginger-ale? ;) | Nov 27 02:25 |
| _Goblin | and Gnusense.....the only distro where I had to compromise the functionality of my machine to run the distro with FSF approval...thats not freedom to me... | Nov 27 02:26 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: Gnewsense was a failure, I agree. But Trisquel has been a far better effort | Nov 27 02:27 |
| _Goblin | haven't looked at it. | Nov 27 02:27 |
| _Goblin | I did mean too as they were talking about it on Diaspora | Nov 27 02:27 |
| XFaCE | *I meant Trisquel was a showcase as you describe rather than do or don'ts | Nov 27 02:27 |
| XFaCE | It isn't perfect, but no worse than ubuntu | Nov 27 02:27 |
| _Goblin | but its all campaigns with the FSF...none of which appeal to the mainstream, its just a rallying cry for the converted. | Nov 27 02:28 |
| XFaCE | The mainstream is largely stupid though | Nov 27 02:28 |
| XFaCE | Again, look at Black Friday | Nov 27 02:28 |
| _Goblin | or uninterested. | Nov 27 02:28 |
| _Goblin | I think is politer. | Nov 27 02:28 |
| _Goblin | you can't blame people for not being interested in computing | Nov 27 02:28 |
| _Goblin | apathetic | Nov 27 02:28 |
| XFaCE | We thought OWS was mainstream, but I think BF pretty much undid much of what they tried to acomplish | Nov 27 02:28 |
| _Goblin | there....thats a better word. | Nov 27 02:28 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: I meant in general, not just the people who ignore FSF campaigns. :) | Nov 27 02:29 |
| abeNd-org | heck, most people are still afraid of or totally ignorant of computing, much less caring about "open source vs proprietary" | Nov 27 02:29 |
| _Goblin | Anyway.....great great debate..... thanks guys....i need to go to bed..... | Nov 27 02:29 |
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| Brendan_T | XFaCE: ok i do like ginger ale mostly because its different but i dont have it very often | Nov 27 02:29 |
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| XFaCE | If Black Friday is any indication, it doesn't really matter what the FSF does | Nov 27 02:30 |
| XFaCE | From the perspective of campaigns | Nov 27 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | I fixed my headlight cover | Nov 27 02:30 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Did you get the replacement part on sale during Black Friday? | Nov 27 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | by drilling a hole in the bottom and sealing it with spray on drain seal | Nov 27 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | nah | Nov 27 02:30 |
| Brendan_T | abeNd-org: or open soufce vs free software :P | Nov 27 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | they only discount vanity items | Nov 27 02:30 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: No pepper spraying for you? | Nov 27 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | Look at me, I have a 101" TV and you only have last year's 100" model | Nov 27 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Nov 27 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | that kind of stuff | Nov 27 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | not useful stuff | Nov 27 02:31 |
| XFaCE | Fuck that, get a projector and be glorified | Nov 27 02:31 |
| abeNd-org | those are generally too loud | Nov 27 02:31 |
| XFaCE | abeNd-org: My friend has one, it's wasn't that loud, and the picture was theatre-quality | Nov 27 02:32 |
| XFaCE | just go and fork out $5000 | Nov 27 02:32 |
| abeNd-org | yeah :) ill get right on it, as soon as you give me $5000 | Nov 27 02:32 |
| XFaCE | Or some multiple of 1000 at least | Nov 27 02:32 |
| XFaCE | Diablo-D3: Hmm, is there a way to combine the auto-replace feature of Xchat with the spell checking? | Nov 27 02:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | no? | Nov 27 02:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | my xchat already has spell checking | Nov 27 02:33 |
| XFaCE | awww | Nov 27 02:33 |
| XFaCE | yes | Nov 27 02:33 |
| XFaCE | Diablo-D3: Mine too | Nov 27 02:33 |
| XFaCE | Diablo-D3: I thought it would be cool to make it interact with auto replace | Nov 27 02:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | its pointless | Nov 27 02:34 |
| XFaCE | so that that the words auto-correct themselve | Nov 27 02:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | it usually chooses the wrong words | Nov 27 02:34 |
| XFaCE | s | Nov 27 02:34 |
| XFaCE | Diablo-D3: Fair enough | Nov 27 02:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | its not smart like google's is, anways | Nov 27 02:34 |
| XFaCE | Xchat is just so awesome | Nov 27 02:34 |
| XFaCE | It's quitenssential FLOSS | Nov 27 02:34 |
| XFaCE | So much control and customization | Nov 27 02:34 |
| XFaCE | Diablo-D3: Thanks for the original suggestion | Nov 27 02:35 |
| XFaCE | :) | Nov 27 02:35 |
| XFaCE | Hmm.. how good was "And There Were Three"? | Nov 27 02:35 |
| XFaCE | Let's find out! Yeah! | Nov 27 02:36 |
| XFaCE | Darn, with Goblin not here to debate stuff | Nov 27 02:38 |
| XFaCE | it's kinda drab | Nov 27 02:38 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: Mageia 2 Alpha 1 :D | Nov 27 02:40 |
| XFaCE | Nothing left but to drink hot chocolate and listen to 90125. | Nov 27 02:40 |
| XFaCE | sebsebseb: And the big question... XFCE? | Nov 27 02:40 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: well I had to change some stuff in the pavucontrol, but seems I won't need tou se WIndows for my headset anymore :D | Nov 27 02:40 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: XFCE sure, task-xfce in the repos | Nov 27 02:40 |
| sebsebseb | and there's a LXDE as well | Nov 27 02:40 |
| sebsebseb | and sugar is in well what will become Mageia 2 | Nov 27 02:41 |
| XFaCE | sebsebseb: Is there an install option now? | Nov 27 02:41 |
| XFaCE | sebsebseb: As in is it one of default DEs? | Nov 27 02:41 |
| sebsebseb | ah right yeah now I remember, you wanted an actsaul XFCE Live CD | Nov 27 02:41 |
| sebsebseb | nope think those are still only GNome and KDE | Nov 27 02:41 |
| XFaCE | Shame | Nov 27 02:41 |
| XFaCE | PCLinuxOS wins again in this regard | Nov 27 02:42 |
| sebsebseb | well yeah | Nov 27 02:42 |
| sebsebseb | ,but | Nov 27 02:42 |
| sebsebseb | so does Ubuntu in a way, it's just Lubuntu, and Xubuntu, and Kubuntu are teh community really | Nov 27 02:42 |
| sebsebseb | well Kubuntu has like one or two Canonical devs | Nov 27 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | PCLinux2004 | Nov 27 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Nov 27 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | (no 64-bit version) | Nov 27 02:43 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: I'll tell y9ou what's ashame though I coudn't just install task-gnome into the KDE version, when I tried on 26th, sine a conflicing package, but then again it's just alpha 1, so not that big a deal relaly | Nov 27 02:43 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: yeah, but more recently they have 64bit, also apparnatly they may even be dumping 32bit completly soon | Nov 27 02:44 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: I didn't say I would actually use it :P | Nov 27 02:44 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: It has a PAE kernel though | Nov 27 02:44 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: yeah you use Debian or something like that, if I remember correctly? | Nov 27 02:44 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: PCLOS has 64bit versions now | Nov 27 02:44 |
| XFaCE | not right now unforunately | Nov 27 02:45 |
| sebsebseb | what distro? | Nov 27 02:45 |
| XFaCE | CTCP version me | Nov 27 02:45 |
| sebsebseb | your on WIndows I assume | Nov 27 02:45 |
| sebsebseb | or maybe even Mac OS X | Nov 27 02:45 |
| XFaCE | Yeah, Windblows | Nov 27 02:45 |
| XFaCE | Not willingly | Nov 27 02:45 |
| sebsebseb | and yeah heh you even changed that | Nov 27 02:46 |
| sebsebseb | yourself | Nov 27 02:46 |
| XFaCE | yeah | Nov 27 02:46 |
| sebsebseb | [02:45] [CTCP] Sending CTCP-VERSION request to XFaCE. | Nov 27 02:46 |
| sebsebseb | [02:45] [CTCP] Received CTCP-VERSION reply from XFaCE: XChat-WDK on Microshaft Windblows. | Nov 27 02:46 |
| XFaCE | Windows may suck, but Xchat is great | Nov 27 02:46 |
| XFaCE | Diablo-D3: Thanks agian | Nov 27 02:46 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: no X chat sucks as well | Nov 27 02:46 |
| sebsebseb | ,but | Nov 27 02:46 |
| sebsebseb | in WIndows that X Chat 2 is quite good | Nov 27 02:46 |
| sebsebseb | ,but in Linux X chat sucks really | Nov 27 02:46 |
| sebsebseb | Konversation for example :D | Nov 27 02:46 |
| sebsebseb | anyway sometimes I call Xchat noobchat as a joke even :D | Nov 27 02:47 |
| sebsebseb | since most of the Desktp Linux newbies use it that use IRC | Nov 27 02:47 |
| Brendan_T | what do you use? | Nov 27 02:48 |
| sebsebseb | Konversation :) | Nov 27 02:48 |
| Brendan_T | is that different from quassel? | Nov 27 02:48 |
| sebsebseb | yep | Nov 27 02:48 |
| sebsebseb | been around much longer | Nov 27 02:48 |
| sebsebseb | and | Nov 27 02:48 |
| sebsebseb | well seems to be much better to me :) from what I seen of quassel | Nov 27 02:48 |
| abeNd-org | what, no pidgin for irc chat on linux? | Nov 27 02:48 |
| sebsebseb | ,but then again I am also very used to Konversaiotn of course :) | Nov 27 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | Linux 3.1.3 is out | Nov 27 02:49 |
| sebsebseb | abeNd-org: uhmm not that many use Pidgin for IRC | Nov 27 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | no release announcement yet | Nov 27 02:49 |
| sebsebseb | abeNd-org: ,but I think quite a lot do ac tsaulely or have before at least | Nov 27 02:49 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: ok, but I am using quite a recent kernel at the moment :D | Nov 27 02:49 |
| abeNd-org | sebsebseb: im all about the pesky bird for all my chat needs | Nov 27 02:49 |
| sebsebseb | abeNd-org: Pidgin ? | Nov 27 02:49 |
| Brendan_T | tried weechat? | Nov 27 02:50 |
| sebsebseb | Brendan_T: not sure quite, may have had installed before | Nov 27 02:50 |
| sebsebseb | I know it's meant to be better than irssi possbily even | Nov 27 02:50 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: 3.1.2-desktop586-0.rc1.1.mga2 | Nov 27 02:51 |
| Brendan_T | its super modular, and its getting gui's soon enough | Nov 27 02:51 |
| sebsebseb | that's what I am using at the moment :D | Nov 27 02:51 |
| abeNd-org | yes, irc (multiple networks), yahoo, msn, google talk, icq, aim, novell groupwise IM for some customers, skype, even SIP for ms-OCS customers (havent tried it with lync customers yet though) | Nov 27 02:51 |
| abeNd-org | im too lazy to have multiple programs for all that | Nov 27 02:51 |
| sebsebseb | abeNd-org: ok | Nov 27 02:52 |
| abeNd-org | i see no problem with having it in one tabbed interface | Nov 27 02:53 |
| XFaCE | sebsebseb: Xchat is just fine | Nov 27 02:54 |
| XFaCE | People just don't configure it | Nov 27 02:54 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. | Nov 27 02:55 |
| DaemonFC | November 26th, 2011 at 9:43 pm | Nov 27 02:55 |
| DaemonFC | DuckDuckGo is basically just a skinned version of Bing, the results are frequently disappointing. | Nov 27 02:55 |
| DaemonFC | One of the reasons I haven’t used Linux Mint in a while is because last time I tried, they made it very difficult to switch to and use the real Google. Instead you got a custom search thing full of ads and missing all of the Google features I used. If that wasn’t bad enough, they even maliciously overwrote the Google entry for Opera to siphon and steal from Opera Software. | Nov 27 02:55 |
| DaemonFC | http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=1884 | Nov 27 02:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Linux Mint Blog » Blog Archive » Linux Mint signs a partnership with DuckDuckGo .::. Size~: 36.4 KB | Nov 27 02:55 |
| XFaCE | " for Opera to siphon and steal from Opera Software" | Nov 27 02:55 |
| XFaCE | please elaborate | Nov 27 02:55 |
| Brendan_T | ^ | Nov 27 02:55 |
| DaemonFC | they overwrote the Google entry from the version of Opera the user installed from the package provided by Opera software | Nov 27 02:56 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: Ryan Farmer? Farmer???? | Nov 27 02:56 |
| DaemonFC | to steal Opera's search money and route it to Linux Mint instead | Nov 27 02:56 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Ah, figured | Nov 27 02:56 |
| DaemonFC | it's very much a for profit thing, no real community, it's more like Ubuntu than Ubuntu is | Nov 27 02:56 |
| XFaCE | That's irritating | Nov 27 02:57 |
| DaemonFC | anyone who switches to Mint to get away from all the top down decisions made in some vacuum will be disappointed | Nov 27 02:57 |
| sebsebseb | Duck Duck Go may not be be the best default serach engine choice from a moral point of view or whatever | Nov 27 02:57 |
| sebsebseb | ,but | Nov 27 02:57 |
| Brendan_T | wow, im glad i found that out | Nov 27 02:57 |
| sebsebseb | Mint have money problems | Nov 27 02:57 |
| sebsebseb | they need more money | Nov 27 02:57 |
| Brendan_T | what is a better engine? | Nov 27 02:57 |
| sebsebseb | Altavista/Yahoo heh heh ? | Nov 27 02:58 |
| Brendan_T | really? | Nov 27 02:58 |
| sebsebseb | Brendan_T: maybe, but that was a joke | Nov 27 02:58 |
| Brendan_T | you could always cheap out and scroogle :P | Nov 27 02:58 |
| sebsebseb | uhmm http://ask.com maybe even? | Nov 27 02:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ask.com - What's Your Question? .::. Size~: 110.62 KB | Nov 27 02:58 |
| Brendan_T | jeeves and i go way back | Nov 27 02:58 |
| sebsebseb | anyway Google is like Microsoft when it comes to a search | Nov 27 02:58 |
| sebsebseb | monoplgy | Nov 27 02:58 |
| sebsebseb | well they are monplogies in differnet ways | Nov 27 02:58 |
| sebsebseb | ,but yeah | Nov 27 02:58 |
| sebsebseb | anyway I don't really care that much about search | Nov 27 02:59 |
| XFaCE | sebsebseb: The difference bing that it actually works well and improves | Nov 27 02:59 |
| sebsebseb | just as long as I get the results I want, when I search for osmething | Nov 27 02:59 |
| Brendan_T | :O they dont have jeeves anymore | Nov 27 02:59 |
| sebsebseb | Brendan_T: oh ? | Nov 27 02:59 |
| Brendan_T | remember ask jeeves? | Nov 27 02:59 |
| sebsebseb | yeah | Nov 27 02:59 |
| sebsebseb | and there was Lycos or something at some stage as well I think? | Nov 27 02:59 |
| sebsebseb | maybe still around | Nov 27 02:59 |
| Brendan_T | dont remember | Nov 27 03:00 |
| abeNd-org | webcrawler, altavista | Nov 27 03:00 |
| sebsebseb | http://altavista.com | Nov 27 03:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Yahoo! Search - Web Search .::. Size~: 16.15 KB | Nov 27 03:00 |
| sebsebseb | and altavista became Yahoo quite a long time ago now | Nov 27 03:00 |
| sebsebseb | ,but the barnding kept | Nov 27 03:00 |
| sebsebseb | branding | Nov 27 03:00 |
| sebsebseb | well that page has quite quite a bit it seems, since when I was last on it as well, for Altavista | Nov 27 03:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Banking system rotten to the core http://head4.me/6 | Nov 27 03:02 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Banking System Rotten to the Core | William K Black PhD | FINANCIAL SENSE .::. Size~: 36.43 KB | Nov 27 03:02 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !listening to @joshwoodward "Let it In" !amwriting !NaNoWriMo | Nov 27 04:07 | |
| DaemonFC | http://politics.slashdot.org/story/11/11/26/2212225/15-years-in-jail-for-clicking-like | Nov 27 04:08 |
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| DaemonFC | http://news.slashdot.org/story/11/11/26/206252/china-to-cancel-college-majors-that-dont-pay | Nov 27 04:09 |
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| DaemonFC | "What if the U.S. government were to adopt China's approach? According to the most recent U.S. census data, among the first majors to go: psychology, U.S. history and military technologies. Lest you computer programmers get too smug, consider this."" | Nov 27 04:10 |
| DaemonFC | they like to import turban wearing psychologists from India who work cheap | Nov 27 04:10 |
| DaemonFC | to maximize their profits | Nov 27 04:10 |
| DaemonFC | that's the only reason most Americans with a psychology degree can't find work | Nov 27 04:10 |
| DaemonFC | psychiatry too | Nov 27 04:11 |
| DaemonFC | "Hi, I'd like to turn in this prescription I can't read for something that the doctor couldn't pronounce!" | Nov 27 04:11 |
| XFaCE | That's kind of stupid of you to say DaemonFC | Nov 27 04:11 |
| XFaCE | "Import turban wearing" is ad hominem. | Nov 27 04:12 |
| DaemonFC | you've never been infuriated by one | Nov 27 04:12 |
| DaemonFC | just wait | Nov 27 04:12 |
| XFaCE | And the fact is, India psychiatrists have a competitive advantage | Nov 27 04:13 |
| DaemonFC | if they brought in some African tribesman that popped and clicked, he'd do an even worse job and a whole lot cheaper | Nov 27 04:13 |
| XFaCE | More ad hominem | Nov 27 04:13 |
| DaemonFC | eventually these Muslim doctors are gonna get screwed when the healthcare law kicks in and we have to take whatever we can get | Nov 27 04:13 |
| XFaCE | How about we care more about the income inequality and corporately-driven gov't? | Nov 27 04:14 |
| XFaCE | Immigration is necessary | Nov 27 04:14 |
| DaemonFC | more people insured means more people going to the doctor, and even if it's not for ridiculous "I stubbed my toe but the government is paying" nonsense | Nov 27 04:15 |
| XFaCE | otherwise, Canada's population would dissapear | Nov 27 04:15 |
| DaemonFC | it's going to overwhelm the system | Nov 27 04:15 |
| DaemonFC | and put pressure on them to accept less qualified doctors | Nov 27 04:15 |
| DaemonFC | and since medical care is expensive, they'll import the doctors to cut costs | Nov 27 04:15 |
| DaemonFC | like they do now but worse | Nov 27 04:15 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Wait, so are you favour a better universal health care? | Nov 27 04:16 |
| XFaCE | Or are you not in favour of any universal health care system?? | Nov 27 04:16 |
| DaemonFC | I favor a system that covers a percentage of reasonable and necessary care | Nov 27 04:16 |
| DaemonFC | if you go in with an "I stubbed my toe" the government should forward you the entire bill | Nov 27 04:16 |
| XFaCE | So a European system or even the Canadian one | Nov 27 04:16 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: The bill is called taxes, dummy | Nov 27 04:16 |
| XFaCE | :) | Nov 27 04:17 |
| DaemonFC | right, but if you are abusing the system with something that's not important | Nov 27 04:17 |
| DaemonFC | the cost should be absorbed by you | Nov 27 04:17 |
| DaemonFC | not me | Nov 27 04:17 |
| XFaCE | Well, I haven't seen that issue in the Canadian system | Nov 27 04:17 |
| XFaCE | there is room for improvement for sure, but that hasn't been a problem | Nov 27 04:17 |
| DaemonFC | if you go there because your arm is necrotizing fasciitis, the government should pay the bill and not trouble you further | Nov 27 04:18 |
| DaemonFC | if you go in because you got struck by lightning and fell off the roof while trying to adjust your TV antenna, they should send you the bill | Nov 27 04:19 |
| XFaCE | I disagree | Nov 27 04:19 |
| DaemonFC | and they shouldn't cover automobile related injuries at all unless the other guy was not insured | Nov 27 04:19 |
| XFaCE | Well, in Canada everyone is insured, so I can't see from that perspective | Nov 27 04:20 |
| DaemonFC | what's going to happen is that you'll still pay full price for car insurance while the insurance company lets the government pay for everything they used to in your policy | Nov 27 04:20 |
| XFaCE | though we can compliment with additional coverage, dental for exampel | Nov 27 04:20 |
| XFaCE | Err, car insurance <> health care | Nov 27 04:20 |
| DaemonFC | if they do cover car accidents in the national health system, they should remove the other guy's ability to sue for things like pain and suffering | Nov 27 04:21 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Cheer up: http://youtu.be/JhKtM6O46B0?hd=1&t=20s | Nov 27 04:21 |
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| DaemonFC | because they'll b e seeing pain management and physical therapy doctors for free | Nov 27 04:21 |
| DaemonFC | so they don't need your money | Nov 27 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | isn't that how it always goes? they say they need a billion dollars for pain and suffering and come in in a wheelchair and neck brace their lawyer gave them? | Nov 27 04:22 |
| XFaCE | Lolsuits seem to be less of a problem here too | Nov 27 04:23 |
| XFaCE | Except when harper does 'em | Nov 27 04:23 |
| DaemonFC | then after they're done bankrupting you and making sue nobody else will ever insure you again, they go blow the money somewhere not on medical care | Nov 27 04:23 |
| XFaCE | !google Stephen Harper sues | Nov 27 04:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Harper threatens to sue Dion, key Liberals - The Globe and Mail | http://www.theglobeandmail.com/eceRedirect%3FarticleId%3D670201 | Nov 27 04:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Prime Ministership of Stephen Harper - Wikipedia, the free ... | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Ministership_of_Stephen_Harper | Nov 27 04:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Harper sues Liberal Party over Cadman bribery accusations ... | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D5CDUNRUngLM | Nov 27 04:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Harper sues Liberals over Cadman affair | http://www.canada.com/topics/news/story.html%3Fid%3D65c1ac4f-ba37-46e5-91cc-5b9801514b28 | Nov 27 04:23 |
| XFaCE | !google Stephen Harper lawsuit | Nov 27 04:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Harper's lawsuit against Liberals rises by $1M - Canada - CBC News | http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2008/07/03/harper-suit.html | Nov 27 04:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - - - SUPERIOR COURT OF JUSTICE | http://www.cbc.ca/news/pdf/harper-lawsuit.pdf | Nov 27 04:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Prime Ministership of Stephen Harper - Wikipedia, the free ... | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Ministership_of_Stephen_Harper | Nov 27 04:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Political libel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_libel | Nov 27 04:23 |
| XFaCE | !google Stephen Harper lolsuit | Nov 27 04:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Diddy Blames Scaffolding for Drop in Sean John Sales -- The Cut | http://nymag.com/daily/fashion/2010/01/diddy_blames_scaffodling_for_d.html | Nov 27 04:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - ED Singers - Encyclopedia Dramatica | http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/ED_Singers | Nov 27 04:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Bryci - Encyclopedia Dramatica | http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Bryci | Nov 27 04:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Jacinta McConnell | Facebook | http://www.facebook.com/jacintaanastasia | Nov 27 04:23 |
| XFaCE | lol | Nov 27 04:23 |
| DaemonFC | *sure | Nov 27 04:24 |
| DaemonFC | XFaCE: the system is fucking stupid | Nov 27 04:24 |
| DaemonFC | it encourages people to treat lawsuits like the lottery | Nov 27 04:25 |
| DaemonFC | "Yay, this bruise will be a nice fat million dollars!" | Nov 27 04:25 |
| DaemonFC | "Someone, get a picture before it fades!" | Nov 27 04:25 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Well, there is one solution | Nov 27 04:25 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Move to Canada | Nov 27 04:25 |
| DaemonFC | because? | Nov 27 04:26 |
| XFaCE | Enjoy the last days before the Harper years set in | Nov 27 04:26 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Because what you complain about is not so bad here | Nov 27 04:26 |
| XFaCE | +! | Nov 27 04:26 |
| XFaCE | +1 | Nov 27 04:26 |
| XFaCE | Plus, you can hang out with prurigro and I, and troll Ender IRL | Nov 27 04:26 |
| XFaCE | and I think schestowitz's former girlfriend is here too | Nov 27 04:27 |
| DaemonFC | my uncle is a freemason | Nov 27 04:27 |
| XFaCE | See, you got the hang of it already | Nov 27 04:28 |
| XFaCE | I'll make reservations and send a one-way ticket | Nov 27 04:29 |
| DaemonFC | not funny | Nov 27 04:32 |
| *XFaCE sends the goods now. | Nov 27 04:32 | |
| *XFaCE meets DaemonFC at the airport, and they eat a Kraft Dinner supper on a front porch while listening to Rush and watching the CBC and wearing touques. | Nov 27 04:33 | |
| *XFaCE actually hates KD. | Nov 27 04:33 | |
| DaemonFC | I take it they can't call it macaroni and cheese there for some reason | Nov 27 04:34 |
| XFaCE | Historic brand name | Nov 27 04:37 |
| XFaCE | And I guess you can't call it Kraft Dinner for some reason | Nov 27 04:37 |
| XFaCE | So ha | Nov 27 04:37 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Rush does an internet song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52cA3f7F7K8 | Nov 27 04:37 |
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| XFaCE | lulz | Nov 27 04:37 |
| DaemonFC | it isn't descriptive | Nov 27 04:55 |
| DaemonFC | lots of things are made by Kraft and could be eaten for dinner | Nov 27 04:56 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC:Yes, but only one could be the Kraft Dinner | Nov 27 05:04 |
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| prurigro | hey all | Nov 27 06:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] my Crunchbang torrent ratio is now at 1.02 | Nov 27 06:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Pakistan demands U.S. vacate air base within 15 days. http://ur1.ca/64n7u | Nov 27 06:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Pakistan demands U.S. vacate air base within 15 days - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News .::. Size~: 96.61 KB | Nov 27 06:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Spooked By Lax U.S. Data Privacy, European Firms Build Their Own Cloud Services. http://ur1.ca/64nk1 | Nov 27 06:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] why are #Chinese so amazed when I tell them I do not have that many friends... do they say it too easily? | Nov 27 06:42 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-in-troubledschools-p,0,7447218.story | Nov 27 06:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ind. school takeover creates headaches for parents - chicagotribune.com .::. Size~: 159.79 KB | Nov 27 06:49 |
| DaemonFC | the state is seizing public schools | Nov 27 06:49 |
| DaemonFC | and giving them out as private contracts | Nov 27 06:49 |
| DaemonFC | because this always works :) | Nov 27 06:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Turkish-American relations at risk if Republican rhetoric rings true. http://ur1.ca/64o0x | Nov 27 06:52 | |
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| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer at 00:53 AM November 27, 2011 | Nov 27 06:54 |
| DaemonFC | Mitch Daniels now seizes public schools and gives them to for profit corporations that will fleece the taxpayers. Google IBM FSSA to see some of the rest of his "fine work". | Nov 27 06:54 |
| DaemonFC | Is it too late to Ditch Mitch? I still want to. | Nov 27 06:54 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The Shocking Truth About the Crackdown on Occupy. http://ur1.ca/64o6s | Nov 27 06:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] copied #NFSShift and #Weibo client from #NokiaN9 to #NokiaN950. dpkg-repack generated packages did not work well because of aegis | Nov 27 07:00 | |
| DaemonFC | http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?65251-Linux-2.6.38-To-Linux-3.2-Nouveau-DRM-Benchmarks&p=240261#post240261 | Nov 27 07:06 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] THE MILITANT: Cuban daily reports on int'l meeting for Cuban 5. http://ur1.ca/64ogx !Cubanews | Nov 27 07:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] books about databases, or in general? | Nov 27 07:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] DuckDuckGo Results No Better Than Bing, Becomes Default Search Engine Of Linux Mint. http://ur1.ca/64orp | Nov 27 07:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: DuckDuckGo Results No Better Than Bing, Becomes Default Search Engine Of Linux Mint | Muktware .::. Size~: 39.08 KB | Nov 27 07:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] can't help you, never wrote a db :/ | Nov 27 07:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] One ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. http://ur1.ca/64ox4 #prisons | Nov 27 07:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: OpEdNews - Article: One Ounce of Prevention .::. Size~: 52.63 KB | Nov 27 07:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #Unix beard #LOL http://www.10minutesaperdre.fr/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/is-that-a-homeless-guy-selling-homes-3825-1275268241-96.jpg | Nov 27 07:23 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Nov 27 07:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] !listening to "Semisonic - Closing Time" and no! not because it was on "friends with benefits" | Nov 27 07:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Hoping this Sunday goes "quietly" | Nov 27 07:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] have you ever seen my code? | Nov 27 07:30 | |
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| prurigro | hey all | Nov 27 07:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] oh...really late. give me a link to the vc and I'll see if I can check it out tomorrow. | Nov 27 07:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The double standards and hypocrisy stick in the throats of some of their own citizens and much more in the rest of the world. | Nov 27 07:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Where are my manners? !tzag Identizens. | Nov 27 07:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] BitTorrent Defense Lawyer Joins Copyright Trolls http://goo.gl/6HoXh | Nov 27 07:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 27 07:53 |
| prurigro | oh TechrightsBot-tr, it'd be so lonely without you :) | Nov 27 07:54 |
| Brendan_T | tricky lawyer | Nov 27 07:59 |
| prurigro | he must have been thinking of ways to be more evil | Nov 27 08:00 |
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| Brendan_T | i wonder if there is an archive of his old side on a search engine somewhere | Nov 27 08:01 |
| prurigro | I wonder how someone can just flip flop ideals completely | Nov 27 08:01 |
| prurigro | speaks to his real values I guess: monies | Nov 27 08:01 |
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| Brendan_T | well clearly he didnt have any ideals like that | Nov 27 08:03 |
| Brendan_T | oh whoops, turns out i just needed to scroll down to see what the site was before | Nov 27 08:05 |
| prurigro | lol his face isn't on it anymore | Nov 27 08:05 |
| Brendan_T | all techrights posters should post articles reversing all their opinions as an experiment | Nov 27 08:08 |
| prurigro | lol | Nov 27 08:08 |
| prurigro | that Michael guy would be flabbergasted | Nov 27 08:08 |
| Brendan_T | :O! | Nov 27 08:13 |
| Brendan_T | google censoring torrent sites now | Nov 27 08:13 |
| Brendan_T | well probably old news | Nov 27 08:14 |
| prurigro | is that in 'google live' only? | Nov 27 08:14 |
| prurigro | or whatever the call it | Nov 27 08:14 |
| prurigro | (I don't really use google for searching) | Nov 27 08:14 |
| Brendan_T | what do you use? | Nov 27 08:15 |
| prurigro | duckduckgo | Nov 27 08:15 |
| prurigro | ddg.gg | Nov 27 08:15 |
| Brendan_T | i use that mostly, but scroogle for obscure things ddg wont do well with | Nov 27 08:16 |
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| prurigro | location free, tracking free (including ads) meaning therefore identity free searches | Nov 27 08:16 |
| prurigro | word | Nov 27 08:16 |
| prurigro | scroogle eh? | Nov 27 08:16 |
| prurigro | what kinda obscure things you thinking? | Nov 27 08:16 |
| Brendan_T | well my addblock list has a ddg add string listed... | Nov 27 08:16 |
| Brendan_T | cant remember exactly but when looking for things that are hard to put in words google generally wins at | Nov 27 08:17 |
| koolhead17 | =-O | Nov 27 08:18 |
| Brendan_T | at least i thought it did... | Nov 27 08:19 |
| prurigro | hmm, but ddg uses google | Nov 27 08:20 |
| prurigro | I suppose they reprocess the results tho | Nov 27 08:20 |
| prurigro | koolhead17: what large eyes you have | Nov 27 08:22 |
| koolhead17 | prurigro: quite big :P | Nov 27 08:22 |
| prurigro | you mean "all the better to SEE you with!" | Nov 27 08:24 |
| DaemonFC | http://etoileos.com/etoile/ | Nov 27 08:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Étoilé .::. Size~: 12.64 KB | Nov 27 08:34 |
| DaemonFC | built in Objective C on top of GNUSTEP | Nov 27 08:34 |
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| Brendan_T | is it like a desktop environment? | Nov 27 08:40 |
| DaemonFC | "If you buy Nvidia, or from any company that has no official open source drivers for the product, and want to claim they support open source operating systems, I'll sell you the Brooklyn Bridge for two dollars." | Nov 27 08:43 |
| DaemonFC | -me | Nov 27 08:43 |
| DaemonFC | "Nvidia doesn't support Linux, they support Nvidia." | Nov 27 08:44 |
| prurigro | intel exists now | Nov 27 08:44 |
| prurigro | but a few years ago the only reasonable option if you wanted anything 3d was nvidia | Nov 27 08:45 |
| DaemonFC | AMD has superior open source drivers and real graphics cards | Nov 27 08:45 |
| DaemonFC | I'd choose AMD over Intel for graphics, even if it was integrated | Nov 27 08:45 |
| DaemonFC | if it wasn't for Intel, you could scrap over a third of the code in Mesa | Nov 27 08:46 |
| DaemonFC | because that's how much stuff is in the Mesa core to support them | Nov 27 08:46 |
| DaemonFC | nobody else has used it for over a year now | Nov 27 08:46 |
| DaemonFC | that's not even counting their ddx stuff and UXA | Nov 27 08:46 |
| prurigro | wwhat are the amd open source drivers? | Nov 27 08:46 |
| prurigro | or rather, which cards? | Nov 27 08:46 |
| DaemonFC | Intel makes Mesa bloated | Nov 27 08:46 |
| Brendan_T | they own ATI right?> | Nov 27 08:47 |
| DaemonFC | AMD bought ATI | Nov 27 08:47 |
| prurigro | yup | Nov 27 08:47 |
| DaemonFC | and straightened them out, a lot | Nov 27 08:47 |
| prurigro | ati isn't open source tho | Nov 27 08:47 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 27 08:47 |
| prurigro | last I checked | Nov 27 08:47 |
| Brendan_T | so what was stallman campaigning about? | Nov 27 08:47 |
| DaemonFC | prurigro: radeon module is open source | Nov 27 08:47 |
| DaemonFC | so are the r300g and r600g Mesa drivers | Nov 27 08:47 |
| DaemonFC | and the radeon ddx | Nov 27 08:48 |
| prurigro | DaemonFC: isn't that a community project that lacks a bunch of proprietary shader stuff? | Nov 27 08:48 |
| DaemonFC | so they're at least as free as Intel | Nov 27 08:48 |
| DaemonFC | Intel requires proprietary firmware | Nov 27 08:48 |
| DaemonFC | so does AMD | Nov 27 08:48 |
| DaemonFC | Nouveau only has free firmware because Nvidia told them they could not use theirs | Nov 27 08:48 |
| DaemonFC | I don't want to support Nvidia just to get that | Nov 27 08:48 |
| DaemonFC | because it sends the wrong message | Nov 27 08:48 |
| DaemonFC | you support bad behavior and more is on the way | Nov 27 08:49 |
| DaemonFC | "They don't give a shit what we do to them, they'll buy our cards anyway!" | Nov 27 08:49 |
| prurigro | wait though | Nov 27 08:49 |
| prurigro | aren't ati cards basically the same? | Nov 27 08:50 |
| DaemonFC | ? | Nov 27 08:50 |
| prurigro | there's an open source driver that works on older cards and doesn't support the full spectrum of the card's capabilities | Nov 27 08:50 |
| DaemonFC | there's open source support for every radeon ever released | Nov 27 08:50 |
| prurigro | or there's the closed source that does | Nov 27 08:50 |
| prurigro | no? | Nov 27 08:50 |
| DaemonFC | official | Nov 27 08:50 |
| DaemonFC | there's unofficial open source support for a subset of mostly old Nvidia cards | Nov 27 08:51 |
| prurigro | hmm, well then | Nov 27 08:51 |
| prurigro | the system's changed | Nov 27 08:51 |
| DaemonFC | any Nvidia card newer than about 2008 will have severe problems running under Nouveau | Nov 27 08:52 |
| prurigro | but your quote should specify people who buy recent nvidia and into the future | Nov 27 08:52 |
| DaemonFC | ans thigns released in the last year or so probably won't work at all | Nov 27 08:52 |
| DaemonFC | *and things | Nov 27 08:52 |
| Brendan_T | open drivers for all radeon?? i thought both nvidia and amd were non free all out | Nov 27 08:52 |
| DaemonFC | it's what happens when Nvidia throws out road blocks and spike strips | Nov 27 08:52 |
| prurigro | well nvidia's been the same all along | Nov 27 08:52 |
| DaemonFC | to slow down the people that want to make open source Nvidia drivers | Nov 27 08:52 |
| DaemonFC | they not only do not help them | Nov 27 08:53 |
| DaemonFC | they actively impede them | Nov 27 08:53 |
| DaemonFC | if you mention Nouveau at all on Nvidia's forums, they will ban your account | Nov 27 08:53 |
| DaemonFC | no matter what context it was in | Nov 27 08:53 |
| Brendan_T | fact? | Nov 27 08:53 |
| DaemonFC | and their recommendation for Linux users is to use vesa until they can install the nonfree Nvidia blob | Nov 27 08:53 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, fact :) | Nov 27 08:53 |
| Brendan_T | you did it? | Nov 27 08:54 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Nov 27 08:54 |
| prurigro | always? | Nov 27 08:54 |
| prurigro | or once? | Nov 27 08:54 |
| Brendan_T | and didnt also spam them with abuse :P? | Nov 27 08:54 |
| DaemonFC | I asked about their official position on using it with their hardware | Nov 27 08:54 |
| DaemonFC | post deleted | Nov 27 08:54 |
| DaemonFC | account banned | Nov 27 08:54 |
| DaemonFC | they're some first grade assholes | Nov 27 08:55 |
| bluebomber | What?! | Nov 27 08:55 |
| bluebomber | (Sorry to chime in just like that) | Nov 27 08:55 |
| DaemonFC | they don't want there to be an open source option on any of their cards | Nov 27 08:55 |
| DaemonFC | they want to be the sole source for working Nvidia cards on Linux | Nov 27 08:55 |
| DaemonFC | through their blob | Nov 27 08:55 |
| Brendan_T | do you write articles at all? | Nov 27 08:55 |
| DaemonFC | it scares the hell out of them that people will figure out something about their hardware that isn't documented by reverse engineering | Nov 27 08:56 |
| DaemonFC | but there's nothing legal they can do to stop it | Nov 27 08:56 |
| bluebomber | Reminds me of this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/phauly/148776712/ | Nov 27 08:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Protest against ATI nearly led to the arrest of RMS Protest against ATI nearly led to the arrest of RMS | Flickr - Photo Sharing! .::. Size~: 115.4 KB | Nov 27 08:56 |
| DaemonFC | so they try to pretend it doesn't exist | Nov 27 08:56 |
| Brendan_T | should rant about it ;] | Nov 27 08:56 |
| prurigro | lol, ati? | Nov 27 08:56 |
| DaemonFC | I don't see why you should support a company that makes it an uphill battle to use open source drivers with their products | Nov 27 08:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @thistleweb BitTorrent Defense Lawyer Joins Copyright Trolls http://goo.gl/6HoXh << a pathetic case of greed | Nov 27 08:57 | |
| prurigro | supposed to be nvidia bluebomber | Nov 27 08:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 27 08:57 |
| DaemonFC | when with any AMD Radeon, it works as soon as you plug it in | Nov 27 08:57 |
| bluebomber | DaemonFC, how sure are you that there is nothing legal they can do to stop it? This sounds like possible DMCA territory. | Nov 27 08:57 |
| prurigro | or maybe not... | Nov 27 08:57 |
| DaemonFC | and the nonfree driver is not mandatory or even a great idea in most cases | Nov 27 08:57 |
| prurigro | I swear I read this same post yesterday for nvidia, but its right there on the fsf | Nov 27 08:57 |
| DaemonFC | bluebomber: Not really | Nov 27 08:57 |
| prurigro | DaemonFC: how do you respond to the protest? | Nov 27 08:58 |
| Brendan_T | DaemonFC: i though amd make both free and nonfree drivers? | Nov 27 08:58 |
| DaemonFC | the Nouveau people haven't touched anything related to DRM | Nov 27 08:58 |
| DaemonFC | Brendan_T: They do | Nov 27 08:58 |
| DaemonFC | but the nonfree ones are rarely needed unless you're running software that actually needs OpenGL greater than 2.1 | Nov 27 08:58 |
| DaemonFC | which is rare | Nov 27 08:58 |
| DaemonFC | and it introduces a lot of problems that just never happen with the open source drivers | Nov 27 08:58 |
| bluebomber | DaemonFC, all they have to do is claim that some part of their hardware is put in there to protect copyright or patent or trade secret, and people would be prohibited from publishing info on it. | Nov 27 08:58 |
| DaemonFC | if they reverse engineer how to do unencrypted HDMI output and audio then that's fine | Nov 27 08:59 |
| Brendan_T | but why do they exist? i think i remember reading a while ago from someone working for amd that the need the nonfree ones for drm | Nov 27 08:59 |
| DaemonFC | if they try to break HDCP, that's a whole different story | Nov 27 08:59 |
| DaemonFC | but they haven't | Nov 27 08:59 |
| DaemonFC | Windows Vista and 7 DRM has been the biggest obstacle for open source GPU drivers | Nov 27 09:00 |
| DaemonFC | there's stuff AMD hasn't been able to document | Nov 27 09:00 |
| DaemonFC | or has had to document around entire sections because of NDAs with Microsoft | Nov 27 09:01 |
| Brendan_T | oh so even amd are getting bumfucked my microsoft not to open things up | Nov 27 09:01 |
| DaemonFC | that's why the HDMI audio on radeon is from reverse engineering | Nov 27 09:01 |
| DaemonFC | and they didn't get it quite right | Nov 27 09:01 |
| DaemonFC | so some cards will boot with a blank screen if you don't pass radeon.audio=0 on the kernel boot line | Nov 27 09:01 |
| DaemonFC | but they have legal clearance now and will be releasing official HDMI audio documentation within the coming months | Nov 27 09:02 |
| DaemonFC | but due to their Microsoft NDAs, it held that up for nearly three years | Nov 27 09:02 |
| DaemonFC | they had to make sure they didn't leak out anything that could compromise HDCP or Microsoft Windows DRM first | Nov 27 09:03 |
| DaemonFC | or else they could be sued by Microsoft and the Blu Ray Disc companies | Nov 27 09:03 |
| bluebomber | In summary: Buy AMD/ATI, not nVidia? | Nov 27 09:03 |
| DaemonFC | yes | Nov 27 09:03 |
| DaemonFC | if you want it to work without a blob, yes | Nov 27 09:03 |
| DaemonFC | if you don't care, either will work | Nov 27 09:04 |
| Brendan_T | seems the opengraphics project has been quiet ;/ | Nov 27 09:04 |
| bluebomber | That explains my laptop's situation. It doesn't work as well as my other computer, but it mostly works, and without a blob. | Nov 27 09:04 |
| bluebomber | (laptop has ATI) | Nov 27 09:04 |
| DaemonFC | old Radeon IGP? | Nov 27 09:05 |
| bluebomber | Cool, thanks for the info, DaemonFC . | Nov 27 09:05 |
| DaemonFC | some of those chipsets are weird and only really designed with Windows XP in mind | Nov 27 09:05 |
| DaemonFC | a lot of them won't work at all with newer versions of Windows, even with the Catalyst Windows driver installed | Nov 27 09:05 |
| DaemonFC | those are from the old ATI | Nov 27 09:05 |
| DaemonFC | before AMD bought them | Nov 27 09:05 |
| DaemonFC | they're trying to support everything ATI ever released, but those old integrated chipsets are the worst | Nov 27 09:06 |
| DaemonFC | yep :) | Nov 27 09:06 |
| DaemonFC | you take something that was designed entirely around Windows XP 8-10 years ago and try to do something with it | Nov 27 09:07 |
| DaemonFC | it's a miracle it works at all | Nov 27 09:07 |
| DaemonFC | I have a 200m that was like that | Nov 27 09:07 |
| DaemonFC | it only started working right on Linux in the last year or so | Nov 27 09:07 |
| DaemonFC | you have to remember that they were designed around DirectX 8 or 9 and that OpenGL support was not a priority at all | Nov 27 09:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @satipera The Shocking Truth About the Crackdown on Occupy. http://ur1.ca/64o6s | Nov 27 09:08 | |
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| DaemonFC | now with modern Radeons, it's a whole different story | Nov 27 09:09 |
| DaemonFC | especially with the 4000, 5000, and 6000 series RadeonHDs | Nov 27 09:09 |
| DaemonFC | the latest hardware is excellent | Nov 27 09:09 |
| DaemonFC | their older stuff was flaky | Nov 27 09:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Rise and Fall of #Bitcoin - http://bit.ly/tVzvWP good retelling of fascinating saga | Nov 27 09:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] My 10 years of blogging: Reflections, Lessons & Some Stats Too - http://bit.ly/w1Z41I @om on a decade of writing; worth reading | Nov 27 09:10 | |
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| DaemonFC | really, Nvidia has been moving away from graphics for years | Nov 27 09:11 |
| DaemonFC | it's still a big part of their business, but the percentage is falling | Nov 27 09:12 |
| DaemonFC | they're pushing GPGPU stuff (like OpenCL and DirectCompute) really hard | Nov 27 09:12 |
| DaemonFC | the idea is that you have a computer that you plug in to your computer | Nov 27 09:12 |
| DaemonFC | and nobody has any idea how it works but them | Nov 27 09:12 |
| DaemonFC | AMD is even going to support OpenCL in their open source drivers soon-ish | Nov 27 09:13 |
| DaemonFC | somce of the command submission checking work is done already in Linux 3.1 | Nov 27 09:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] replies to me often not appear in my home timeline; most (all?) of the people I talk too prefer @replies which work x platforms >good 4 feds | Nov 27 09:13 | |
| DaemonFC | and within the next year or two, you'll start to see GalliumCompute implementing OpenCL without need for Catalyst | Nov 27 09:13 |
| DaemonFC | the card specific stuff for Radeons is basically done | Nov 27 09:14 |
| DaemonFC | but GalliumCompute is far from complete | Nov 27 09:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Listening to Lady day "Getting Some fun Out Of Life" !amwriting !NaNoWriMo #allnightlong @ #KWArtzlab | Nov 27 09:15 | |
| DaemonFC | eventually AMD and Nvidia will be slugging it out on desktops over who has the fastest GPGPU related stuff | Nov 27 09:16 |
| DaemonFC | they're already there on high end workstations | Nov 27 09:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Personalized Medicine - http://bit.ly/ugfPXL "why return of ‘omic’ results to research participants is a good idea and a moral imperative" | Nov 27 09:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] More news from our Martian Invaders - http://bit.ly/v0HYNs once again, Charlie Stross connects the dots #ows | Nov 27 09:17 | |
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| DaemonFC | but all sorts of things can be done on a GPU much faster than on the CPU | Nov 27 09:17 |
| DaemonFC | the Windows Catalyst bundle includes software that does media encoding and transcoding on the GPU | Nov 27 09:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #India's new #GM crops bill is a gross example of corruption - http://bit.ly/uEuqIj a disaster in the makring | Nov 27 09:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Foundations Considered Useful - http://bit.ly/uVJgPm good stuff from @mmilinkov #opensource #eclipse | Nov 27 09:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Alan Moore – meet the man behind the protest mask - http://bit.ly/vQe5Gx timely interview with a fascinating bloke #v | Nov 27 09:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody More news from our Martian Invaders - http://bit.ly/v0HYNs once again, Charlie Stross connects the dots #ows | Nov 27 09:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] BitTorrent Defense Lawyer Joins #Copyright #Trolls - http://bit.ly/uDNltK <insert cynical comment here> | Nov 27 09:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Millions using #YouTube Editor to enhance videos after posting - http://bit.ly/sTeZWI liberating more creativity | Nov 27 09:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] break over...feeble #nanoturtle wordcount is up to pitiful 27400...back to cranking out words !listening to @joshwoodward instrumental vs ;) | Nov 27 09:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] First inkjet-printed #graphene computer circuit is transparent, flexible - http://bit.ly/tQK5hr new kinds of shiny | Nov 27 09:30 | |
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| *koolhead17 has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | Nov 27 09:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] why not? | Nov 27 09:33 | |
| *roy_ is now known as schestowitz | Nov 27 09:34 | |
| schestowitz | morning... | Nov 27 09:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Sorry, I don't agree with @rms on that one either. Nothing at all prevents you from supporting public domain sw besides your own decision. | Nov 27 09:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] No. the public domain is where everything that is not in the private domain goes. | Nov 27 09:38 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: My dad was cleaning out his garage and found an old telescope that belonged to me | Nov 27 09:40 |
| DaemonFC | so he dropped it off while he was in town the other day | Nov 27 09:40 |
| DaemonFC | now if it would only stop raining..... | Nov 27 09:40 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 27 09:40 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA08H04Y1931&cm_sp=Specials-_-9SIA08H04Y1931-_-11272011_1 | Nov 27 09:43 |
| schestowitz | you used one? | Nov 27 09:44 |
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| DaemonFC | You will be assimilated | Nov 27 09:44 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 27 09:44 |
| schestowitz | Well, I guess that he bought one, being a geek | Nov 27 09:44 |
| DaemonFC | huh? | Nov 27 09:44 |
| DaemonFC | I bought it | Nov 27 09:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Fresh wave of killings by hunters takes Indonesian #orangutan to the brink of extinction - http://bit.ly/twYpXE the curse of #palmoil again | Nov 27 09:45 | |
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| DaemonFC | The last time Republicans caused a jobs surge was when Oliver North recommended a particular brand of shredder | Nov 27 09:46 |
| DaemonFC | they've been taking credit for all the temporary spikes and book cooking lies though | Nov 27 09:46 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I saw something that blew my mind yesterday | Nov 27 09:47 |
| DaemonFC | my mom using Firefox under XFCE | Nov 27 09:48 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure it was only a fluke | Nov 27 09:48 |
| DaemonFC | I did manage to get a good laugh over the holiday though | Nov 27 09:48 |
| DaemonFC | my cousin said my laptop was fast and asked when I bought it | Nov 27 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | I told her 2004 | Nov 27 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 27 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | her new dual core one with 4 times the memory runs Windows 7 about half as fast | Nov 27 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | it never stops amazing me how Windows can make a nice system crawl | Nov 27 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883104078&cm_sp=Tab_Clearance-_-Daily_Deal-_-83-104-078 | Nov 27 09:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Newegg.com - Recertified: Apple Power Mac G5 (M9454LL/A) Desktop PC PowerPC G5 1.8GHz 512MB DDR 80GB HDD Capacity NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 Ultra Mac OS X 10.3 .::. Size~: 138.56 KB | Nov 27 09:52 |
| DaemonFC | that might be worth having | Nov 27 09:52 |
| DaemonFC | the GPU and OS X would have to go | Nov 27 09:52 |
| DaemonFC | but it would make a nice fast powerpc Linux box | Nov 27 09:52 |
| DaemonFC | maybe upgrade the RAM a bit | Nov 27 09:53 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883104080 | Nov 27 09:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Newegg.com - Recertified: Apple Power Mac G5 (M9590LL/A) Desktop PC PowerPC G5 2.0GHz 2GB DDR2 160GB HDD Capacity NVIDIA GeForce 6600LE Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger .::. Size~: 138.51 KB | Nov 27 09:53 |
| DaemonFC | that one is probably a better deal though | Nov 27 09:53 |
| DaemonFC | Apple trends around nice CPU, but too little RAM, slow GPU, and a tiny hard drive | Nov 27 09:54 |
| DaemonFC | that's ongoing | Nov 27 09:54 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882276012 | Nov 27 09:54 |
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| DaemonFC | trademark infringement (IRIX) | Nov 27 09:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Choisissez daar beginnen we maar vrijdag aan @Miel_vds | Nov 27 09:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Choisissez @Miel_vds of in de morgen, of rond 5 uur | Nov 27 09:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Choisissez @Miel_vds Engels. Kan je op 5 december in Gent graken? | Nov 27 09:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Choisissez Spreek je graag motion graphics in? We werken samen met @Miel_vds eentje uit rond #TheDataT http://ur1. ... | Nov 27 09:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @hannesvdvreken duuh... All in... | Nov 27 09:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Choisissez Heb al mijn best gedaan! Hopelijk denken de anderen ook eens na :) /cc @Tuinslak @Waza_Be | Nov 27 09:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Belgium reached an agreement. This news causes Standard and Poors to lower the rating of Standard and Poors. | Nov 27 09:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @simnw: Kan gratis openbaar vervoer in Gent tijdens festiviteiten geen oplossing bieden voor het ver http://ur1. ... | Nov 27 09:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @BartRosseau is dat een verbloemd: "eigenlijk zijn de West-Vlamingen vervelender dan de mensen die van http://ur1. ... | Nov 27 09:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp doe ook eens iets voor de maatschappij ;) | Nov 27 09:55 | |
| DaemonFC | solar cell phone chargers | Nov 27 09:55 |
| DaemonFC | probably gets you a full charge in about 3 weeks of continuous exposure to sunlight | Nov 27 09:55 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 27 09:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp in combinatie met zwarte piet? | Nov 27 09:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @cevdw: for all the #nokia #wp7 owners in Belgium, don't forget to download your free #BeTrains app #nmbs #sncb | Nov 27 09:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @SanjibNarzary Awesome mail! I will reply in the morning /cc @iRail | Nov 27 09:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp @stg007 http://t.co/xBztgnSe - voila, aangepast. #actiereactie | Nov 27 09:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @hannesvdvreken oh, no shit... | Nov 27 09:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @hannesvdvreken next time say: yes, can I bring some friends? | Nov 27 09:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @bartnelis: Laatste dag bij de lijn zit erop ... ik ben zo dankbaar voor de warmte die ik kreeg van http://ur1. ... | Nov 27 09:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: I'm not slacking off, my code is compiling #bison http://t.co/xNmH88w4 | Nov 27 09:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @SanjibNarzary @iRail can you send us an e-mail to info at http://ur1.ca/64toj with a more detailed que http://ur1. ... | Nov 27 09:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @BartRosseau: Livestream #stadsdebat te volgen vanaf 14h30 via http://t.co/vJEfrSHo #gent | Nov 27 09:57 | |
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| DaemonFC | it would be nice if they came up with alternative energy that could compete without artificially raising the price of fossil fuels via taxes | Nov 27 09:57 |
| DaemonFC | but they can't | Nov 27 09:57 |
| DaemonFC | so they make 80% of the cost of a unit of energy tax to prod you into using something that could never stand on its own | Nov 27 09:58 |
| DaemonFC | in some areas anyway | Nov 27 09:58 |
| DaemonFC | they do a fog computing style cap and trade thing | Nov 27 09:59 |
| DaemonFC | where you can pay extra for electricity (sign me up!) :) and then someone somewhere out there pledges to generate X amount of "clean electricity" to offset my dependence on filthy coal or whatever | Nov 27 10:00 |
| DaemonFC | and then what probably really happens is the electric company finds some way to pocket the money and do no such thing while leaving you to feel smug about a voluntary rate increase | Nov 27 10:00 |
| DaemonFC | "We'll just fish for all the stupid people" | Nov 27 10:03 |
| DaemonFC | "tell them they can run their Macbook on clean coal or some such nonsense" | Nov 27 10:03 |
| DaemonFC | "then they can pretend their farts smell like freshly baked cinnamon buns!" | Nov 27 10:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @magicfab #OccupyMontreal Manifestation citoyenne contre le vol de nos ressources naturelles! Par Le Mouve... http://b1t.it/1Q5 #ows | Nov 27 10:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Having to resort to identica's mobile layout site to actually login or do anything useful #fail | Nov 27 10:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !listening to the instrumental version of "House In My Head" drives home how good the music @joshwoodward writes really is | Nov 27 10:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Busy afternoon at the Cyber. Getting 15 KBps per machine. 2Mbps Orange actually some good! @eebrah | Nov 27 10:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "It's not a site,it's an FTP directory" @eebrah Made my day #cloudedthinking #thecloud | Nov 27 10:32 | |
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| DaemonFC | Microsoft is the 99% | Nov 27 10:45 |
| DaemonFC | (going by successful malware installations) | Nov 27 10:45 |
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| Brendan_T | hmm? | Nov 27 10:55 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/11/23/microsoft_says_windows_phones_have_had_siri_like_functionality_for_over_a_year.html | Nov 27 11:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: AppleInsider | Microsoft says Windows Phones have had Siri-like functionality for over a year .::. Size~: 59.89 KB | Nov 27 11:04 |
| DaemonFC | Apple Penis Butt technology | Nov 27 11:04 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Nov 27 11:04 |
| DaemonFC | depends on which group's slang you use | Nov 27 11:04 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @GetNYLawyers Legal Buzz Daily is out! bit.ly/jkbdmh | Nov 27 11:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @pswider Documentation is like sex: when it’s good–it’s really good, & when it’s not so good–it’s better than nothing / via @carolaik | Nov 27 11:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @FatennMostafa #IWillVote in #egyelections wearing black in memory of my dad who died as martyr in #jan25 #Egypt revolution & all martyrs | Nov 27 11:22 | |
| DaemonFC | http://news.businessweek.com/article.asp?documentKey=1376-LV4OFY0D9L3501-6FRFU5S5CBAC364MBH1QVJR6VF | Nov 27 11:25 |
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| DaemonFC | Microsoft has to partner with vulture funds to stay under the antitrust radar | Nov 27 11:27 |
| DaemonFC | but it controls the vultures it "partners" with | Nov 27 11:27 |
| DaemonFC | DOJ: "Oh, you're back with sockpuppets? Alright then!" | Nov 27 11:28 |
| MinceR | well, android had voice-recognition technology for ages | Nov 27 11:31 |
| DaemonFC | They had Penis Butt technology before it was cool | Nov 27 11:31 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Nov 27 11:32 |
| MinceR | it still isn't cool | Nov 27 11:32 |
| MinceR | it's mostly pointless :> | Nov 27 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | my phone has something like that | Nov 27 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | it's slower than dialing a number, because it usually gets it wrong and gives you three things it thinks you may have said to choose from | Nov 27 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | and if you tell it to open an application, it usually gets the wrong one | Nov 27 11:33 |
| DaemonFC | so you have to go back and close it then find the right one anyway | Nov 27 11:33 |
| Brendan_T | i was with someone when they were playing with their iphone one, and it seemed to do alright for common words | Nov 27 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.muktware.com/news/3012 | Nov 27 11:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @reality @sandersch Get a job, hippie! | Nov 27 11:37 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: DuckDuckGo Results No Better Than Bing, Becomes Default Search Engine Of Linux Mint | Muktware .::. Size~: 39.18 KB | Nov 27 11:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] 哈哈哈... nothing changed during my absence. | Nov 27 11:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels now | Nov 27 11:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels now | Nov 27 11:38 | |
| schestowitz | "ouch" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/900239 | Nov 27 11:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 27 11:39 |
| DaemonFC | I see Linux Vista (Mint) includes Banshee | Nov 27 11:40 |
| DaemonFC | The Mono people will probably focus on latching onto and promoting Mint | Nov 27 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | since Ubuntu got rid of it | Nov 27 11:41 |
| *Brendan_T used to use banshee | Nov 27 11:41 | |
| Brendan_T | i dont get the purpose of mono, who thought it was a good idea? | Nov 27 11:42 |
| DaemonFC | Steve Ballmer | Nov 27 11:42 |
| Brendan_T | oh, bless him | Nov 27 11:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] A huge shout out to all our Volunteers! Thanks!! If you're considering volunteering for #LCA2012, we have more info http://t.co/vpf8TQ2a | Nov 27 11:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] We Speak on PBS Newshour About Why No Bank Executives Have Gone to Jail http://is.gd/1QRHWa #economy #debt | Nov 27 11:45 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: We Speak on PBS Newshour About Why No Bank Executives Have Gone to Jail « naked capitalism .::. Size~: 250.11 KB | Nov 27 11:45 |
| Brendan_T | http://occupyhtml.org/ | Nov 27 11:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Occupy HTML - The movement to rid the world of HTML purism .::. Size~: 11.4 KB | Nov 27 11:47 |
| Brendan_T | it almost looks like their not joking | Nov 27 11:49 |
| MinceR | what a load of bullshit | Nov 27 11:52 |
| MinceR | is this adobe's tea party? | Nov 27 11:52 |
| DaemonFC | We don't know how to make websites without Dreamweaver and Flash | Nov 27 11:53 |
| Brendan_T | did you see the footer? | Nov 27 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | don't make us learn stuff! | Nov 27 11:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Profesor Vetulani jest zawsze wart czytania, to wiemy od jakiegoś czasu, choćby dla samych jego uwag mimochodem w tek http://ur1.ca/650on | Nov 27 11:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 27 11:54 |
| MinceR | i see only contact info in the footer | Nov 27 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | I sense a bunch of people that are pissed off that their community college Flash training is about to be obsolete | Nov 27 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | wouldn't you agree MinceR? :) | Nov 27 11:54 |
| MinceR | something like that, yeah | Nov 27 11:54 |
| Brendan_T | well i mean the crap at the bottom of the page | Nov 27 11:55 |
| Brendan_T | claiming breach of copyright, and giving credit to occupyflash | Nov 27 11:56 |
| MinceR | i see some blah about copying their design | Nov 27 11:57 |
| DaemonFC | I'd like to see people get together and admit Seamonkey is superior to Firefox | Nov 27 11:58 |
| DaemonFC | and that we've all been bamboozled into accepting crippleware that's not much lighter | Nov 27 11:58 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 27 11:58 |
| DaemonFC | too much to ask? | Nov 27 11:58 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure if you're right at all | Nov 27 11:58 |
| *Brendan_T is stupid | Nov 27 11:58 | |
| Brendan_T | its in the middle | Nov 27 11:58 |
| DaemonFC | hell, the only reason for Firefox is because some people are too stupid or lazy to put a Seamonkey entry into their extension installation info | Nov 27 11:59 |
| Brendan_T | probably missread it | Nov 27 11:59 |
| MinceR | firefox also integrates better into the GUI | Nov 27 11:59 |
| MinceR | that said, i'd like to see them take the next step and also take XUL out of the GUI | Nov 27 12:00 |
| MinceR | at least for the main interface, not the extensions | Nov 27 12:00 |
| DaemonFC | well, Firefox and Thunderbird duplicate a lot of stuff | Nov 27 12:00 |
| DaemonFC | then you have to keep thunderbird running or you won't get mail notifications | Nov 27 12:00 |
| DaemonFC | which is obviously not an issue in Seamonkey | Nov 27 12:00 |
| MinceR | you can use a different email client | Nov 27 12:01 |
| DaemonFC | which means you get all the RAM use of Firefox doubled because of THunderbird being another application | Nov 27 12:01 |
| Brendan_T | i thought it was just another free version like icecat | Nov 27 12:01 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: I have yet to find a GUI where Seamonkey Modern looks hideous | Nov 27 12:01 |
| MinceR | it's inconsistent with the rest of the GUI | Nov 27 12:02 |
| DaemonFC | so? | Nov 27 12:02 |
| DaemonFC | so is Firefox | Nov 27 12:02 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 27 12:02 |
| MinceR | firefox only fucks up the scroll bars and that can be fixed | Nov 27 12:02 |
| DaemonFC | Firefox fucks up the scroll bars | Nov 27 12:02 |
| DaemonFC | the sile dialogs | Nov 27 12:02 |
| MinceR | at least KDE has some option to set it up to fix the scroll bars | Nov 27 12:02 |
| DaemonFC | the menu order | Nov 27 12:02 |
| DaemonFC | and most of the GUI widgets it uses | Nov 27 12:02 |
| MinceR | what's a "sile dialog"? | Nov 27 12:02 |
| DaemonFC | and maybe the icons too | Nov 27 12:02 |
| Brendan_T | whats wrong with the scroll bar? | Nov 27 12:03 |
| DaemonFC | *file | Nov 27 12:03 |
| DaemonFC | so the less GNOME like your desktop is, the more Firefox sticks out like a sore thumb | Nov 27 12:03 |
| DaemonFC | it makes no attempts to work right with anything else | Nov 27 12:03 |
| Brendan_T | surely those types of menus are decades old | Nov 27 12:03 |
| MinceR | Brendan_T: if you're using a theme where it's not [<][ ][>], it might not be obeyed | Nov 27 12:03 |
| MinceR | or you see one but it behaves like the other | Nov 27 12:03 |
| DaemonFC | I can't see where Seamonkey's GUI fucks shit up worse than Firefox | Nov 27 12:03 |
| DaemonFC | the only thing Firefox tries to work well with is GNOME | Nov 27 12:04 |
| MinceR | firefox works with KDE and XFCE | Nov 27 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | right, but it makes no attempt to act liek KDE | Nov 27 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | or XFCE | Nov 27 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | it only acts like a GNOME program | Nov 27 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | ok, it has more features | Nov 27 12:04 |
| MinceR | seamonkey is so much better because it doesn't attempt to act like anything? | Nov 27 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | but a lot of the stupidity of GNOME shows in Firefox | Nov 27 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | regardless of where you use it | Nov 27 12:05 |
| DaemonFC | something dumb I noticed about GNOME, among lots of other things.... | Nov 27 12:05 |
| DaemonFC | is that if you set Nautilus to single click, the GTK file dialogs are still double click | Nov 27 12:05 |
| DaemonFC | they make no attempt to work like the fucking file manager | Nov 27 12:05 |
| DaemonFC | and it's about enough to make you go nuts | Nov 27 12:05 |
| DaemonFC | I hate GTK file dialogs | Nov 27 12:06 |
| DaemonFC | they don't even try to be consistent with GNOME, the project that controls GTK+ development | Nov 27 12:06 |
| MinceR | the GUI looks like the GTK+ settings you have, though | Nov 27 12:07 |
| DaemonFC | GTK should just die | Nov 27 12:07 |
| DaemonFC | it's a disease | Nov 27 12:07 |
| MinceR | not like a skinned winblows application from 10 years in the past | Nov 27 12:07 |
| DaemonFC | it gets a lot of its stupid fucking shit from GNOME | Nov 27 12:07 |
| DaemonFC | and I am tired of dealing with it | Nov 27 12:07 |
| Brendan_T | prefer qt? | Nov 27 12:08 |
| DaemonFC | the only thing I have that even uses GTK is a web browser or two | Nov 27 12:08 |
| DaemonFC | that's jsut because they made an unfortunate toolkit choice guided by "everyone uses Ubuntu, and if not, they should" | Nov 27 12:08 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, I do | Nov 27 12:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Shared a post "Nàng ấy đã không còn Tự Do ........" http://ur1.ca/6513a | Nov 27 12:08 | |
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| MinceR | GTK+ is a lot older than ubuntu | Nov 27 12:09 |
| DaemonFC | right, but they made it more acceptable | Nov 27 12:09 |
| MinceR | to whom? | Nov 27 12:09 |
| DaemonFC | because almost nobody was stupid enough to use GNOME before Ubuntu | Nov 27 12:09 |
| DaemonFC | now you see a lot of really shitty programs designed around whatever Ubuntu has done lately | Nov 27 12:09 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu has set back free software by several years | Nov 27 12:10 |
| MinceR | not true | Nov 27 12:10 |
| DaemonFC | easily | Nov 27 12:10 |
| MinceR | they used GNOME a lot before Qt was relicensed under GPL | Nov 27 12:10 |
| MinceR | as distro default | Nov 27 12:10 |
| Brendan_T | qt was nonfree back then though wasnt it? | Nov 27 12:10 |
| MinceR | yes | Nov 27 12:10 |
| DaemonFC | I wouldn't use GNOME right now no matter what its competitors were licensed under | Nov 27 12:10 |
| Brendan_T | so gnome was the best choice ;p | Nov 27 12:10 |
| DaemonFC | because it's not usable at all now with version 3 | Nov 27 12:10 |
| DaemonFC | it was only tolerable before | Nov 27 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | now it's just garbage | Nov 27 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | total untouchable crap | Nov 27 12:11 |
| Brendan_T | i see different people hating it and loving it, dont know what to think | Nov 27 12:11 |
| MinceR | imo gnome was a lot better before | Nov 27 12:11 |
| MinceR | back when it was just a free kde clone | Nov 27 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | well, now it's a Mac clone | Nov 27 12:11 |
| MinceR | then again, kde was also a lot less crap back then | Nov 27 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | complete with the "Your computer did a no no" crash screens | Nov 27 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 27 12:11 |
| Brendan_T | everythings crap? ;[ | Nov 27 12:12 |
| iophk | KDE 3.x was very good. | Nov 27 12:12 |
| MinceR | XFCE and many "classic" WMs aren't crap | Nov 27 12:12 |
| Brendan_T | still lives on as a fork | Nov 27 12:12 |
| iophk | 4.x seems slow. | Nov 27 12:12 |
| MinceR | and yes, KDE3 was good | Nov 27 12:12 |
| DaemonFC | XFCE is a lot like GNOME 2 without the bloat and users are stupid HIG | Nov 27 12:12 |
| Brendan_T | never used it | Nov 27 12:12 |
| schestowitz | [09:48] <DaemonFC> my mom using Firefox under XFCE << by her own choice? | Nov 27 12:12 |
| DaemonFC | if you have to choose between GNOME and XFCE, choose XFCE | Nov 27 12:12 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: It's what was handy at the moment | Nov 27 12:13 |
| Brendan_T | im just using i3-wm and nothing else, screw it | Nov 27 12:13 |
| DaemonFC | I can't believe how far GNOME 3 has devolved | Nov 27 12:13 |
| Brendan_T | with 13 workspaces ;p | Nov 27 12:14 |
| DaemonFC | we're down to going " :( " and calling it a crash screen | Nov 27 12:14 |
| DaemonFC | it's literally a Mac clone | Nov 27 12:14 |
| Brendan_T | figuratively | Nov 27 12:14 |
| DaemonFC | no, we won't tell you WHY it died | Nov 27 12:14 |
| DaemonFC | we'll just keep going " :( " | Nov 27 12:15 |
| DaemonFC | until you give up and take a sledgehammer to the PC | Nov 27 12:15 |
| Brendan_T | im gonna crash soon too.. :( | Nov 27 12:15 |
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| DaemonFC | GNOME 3 has a whole bag of :( for you | Nov 27 12:16 |
| Brendan_T | ive never tried it properly yet | Nov 27 12:16 |
| Brendan_T | i had it in a vm with fedora when they first had it but the acceleration didnt work | Nov 27 12:16 |
| DaemonFC | you try to extend the shell to make it useful | Nov 27 12:17 |
| Brendan_T | :( | Nov 27 12:17 |
| DaemonFC | so it retaliates by refusing to load the shell | Nov 27 12:17 |
| DaemonFC | figures | Nov 27 12:17 |
| Brendan_T | lets start writing our own desktop | Nov 27 12:17 |
| DaemonFC | their entire HIG is infantile | Nov 27 12:18 |
| DaemonFC | seriously, a newborn which knows nothing else will pick up on facial expressions first | Nov 27 12:18 |
| Brendan_T | HIG? | Nov 27 12:18 |
| DaemonFC | so it's almost as if they're calling you a retard when the crash screen goes " :( " at you | Nov 27 12:18 |
| DaemonFC | human interface guidelines | Nov 27 12:19 |
| DaemonFC | at least tell me what crashed | Nov 27 12:19 |
| Brendan_T | we can go post bug repots saying it crashed and the output given was " :( " | Nov 27 12:20 |
| Brendan_T | maybe they'll realise its not enough to work with | Nov 27 12:20 |
| DaemonFC | fuck, even Dungeons and Dragons gives you a saving throw sometimes | Nov 27 12:20 |
| DaemonFC | shit | Nov 27 12:20 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Nov 27 12:20 |
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| Brendan_T | I used kde for a while (kubuntu) but it always had some set up bugs, and each update would change that set of bugs a little bit | Nov 27 12:21 |
| DaemonFC | KDE has yet to give me a " :( Something went wrong" as an error message | Nov 27 12:21 |
| Brendan_T | set of bugs* | Nov 27 12:21 |
| DaemonFC | the day it starts that shit will be the day I stop using it | Nov 27 12:21 |
| DaemonFC | that's what GNOME does to their users | Nov 27 12:21 |
| Brendan_T | go add to their mailing list | Nov 27 12:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] wow #GarySpeed, #Wales manager has died !football #RIP | Nov 27 12:22 | |
| DaemonFC | Dear GNOME, this shit is bananas, peace. | Nov 27 12:23 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 27 12:23 |
| Brendan_T | has anyone made a comprehensive list of issues yet? | Nov 27 12:23 |
| DaemonFC | no, and I don't care to | Nov 27 12:23 |
| DaemonFC | because their developers are a bunch of rude egomaniacs | Nov 27 12:24 |
| DaemonFC | and refuse to declare that GNOME could be doing something wrong | Nov 27 12:24 |
| Brendan_T | .... | Nov 27 12:24 |
| Brendan_T | " :( Something went wrong" | Nov 27 12:24 |
| DaemonFC | yes | Nov 27 12:25 |
| DaemonFC | something | Nov 27 12:25 |
| DaemonFC | something | Nov 27 12:25 |
| Brendan_T | something sad | Nov 27 12:25 |
| DaemonFC | you had a little something something | Nov 27 12:25 |
| DaemonFC | but then it went wrong | Nov 27 12:25 |
| DaemonFC | :( | Nov 27 12:25 |
| Brendan_T | a doo doo | Nov 27 12:25 |
| DaemonFC | so hideously wrong | Nov 27 12:25 |
| Brendan_T | if we compare it to any aspect of life that gets popular it seems inevitable though | Nov 27 12:25 |
| Brendan_T | popular stuff goes shit | Nov 27 12:25 |
| Brendan_T | think music | Nov 27 12:26 |
| DaemonFC | so disfigured it was unspeakable | Nov 27 12:26 |
| DaemonFC | so you get a " :( " instead | Nov 27 12:26 |
| Brendan_T | think any art really.. movies, poetry, writing | Nov 27 12:26 |
| DaemonFC | Bono bought his way onto another "AIDS" panel | Nov 27 12:28 |
| DaemonFC | so he can talk about how if you buy a red iPad, Apple gives a whopping 1% to charity | Nov 27 12:28 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Thank you for buying a $700 iPad, you have saved 0.0000000000001 African children | Nov 27 12:29 |
| Brendan_T | 1% of what they make would probably be a lot | Nov 27 12:29 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Nov 27 12:29 |
| DaemonFC | 3 Chinese people were maimed in the creation of this iPad | Nov 27 12:29 |
| Brendan_T | he bought one? | Nov 27 12:29 |
| DaemonFC | nah | Nov 27 12:29 |
| DaemonFC | teasing him | Nov 27 12:29 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 27 12:29 |
| DaemonFC | Bono is such a piece of shit | Nov 27 12:30 |
| Brendan_T | 14 depressed working dads commited suicide off a building in the creation of this iPad | Nov 27 12:30 |
| DaemonFC | someone should take him and Lars Ulrich and feed them to starving African kids | Nov 27 12:30 |
| DaemonFC | once they have a taste for talentless assclown maybe they'll rid the world of them | Nov 27 12:31 |
| Brendan_T | many more couldnt, because they were forced to sign a contract saying their family would get no money if they died, and put nets up so they couldnt jump | Nov 27 12:31 |
| Brendan_T | yay | Nov 27 12:31 |
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| DaemonFC | Nine Inch Nails managed to avoid the bad PR Metallica did | Nov 27 12:32 |
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| Brendan_T | what happened? | Nov 27 12:32 |
| DaemonFC | because Trent Reznor told his fans to pirate their stuff if they were being gouged for it by the labels they used to be under | Nov 27 12:33 |
| DaemonFC | while Lars Ulrich was one of the ones bitching about file sharing and all the pennies he was losing over it | Nov 27 12:33 |
| DaemonFC | so Metallica is never going to get past that and every time they release another stinker they blame what happens to it on file sharing | Nov 27 12:34 |
| DaemonFC | I think it's the only reason the RIAA keeps them around | Nov 27 12:34 |
| Brendan_T | lol. 'sharing makes me write shitty music, sorry' | Nov 27 12:34 |
| Brendan_T | riaa control which bands are around? | Nov 27 12:35 |
| DaemonFC | more or less | Nov 27 12:35 |
| Brendan_T | never thought of that | Nov 27 12:35 |
| DaemonFC | that's slowly changing thanks to the internet | Nov 27 12:35 |
| DaemonFC | you don't need studio time or millions of dollars of promotional material now | Nov 27 12:36 |
| DaemonFC | so the RIAA is riding on a back catalog | Nov 27 12:36 |
| DaemonFC | and that's why EMI is in trouble | Nov 27 12:36 |
| Brendan_T | death to them | Nov 27 12:36 |
| Brendan_T | hoorah | Nov 27 12:36 |
| DaemonFC | the RIAA and Apple take over 93% of the price of each song | Nov 27 12:37 |
| DaemonFC | and leave the remaining 7% for the band that wrote and played it | Nov 27 12:37 |
| DaemonFC | at least, that's the case with iTunes | Nov 27 12:37 |
| DaemonFC | musicians put up with it because Apple and the RIAA keep each other entrenched | Nov 27 12:38 |
| DaemonFC | Apple only offers RIAA label music | Nov 27 12:38 |
| DaemonFC | so if you want to be in Apple's store, you'll sign with an RIAA label | Nov 27 12:39 |
| DaemonFC | even if it means that between them, they get 93% of your earnings | Nov 27 12:39 |
| Brendan_T | does this apply over seas to? | Nov 27 12:39 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Nov 27 12:39 |
| Brendan_T | cite? | Nov 27 12:39 |
| DaemonFC | the RIAA has a branch in most countries | Nov 27 12:39 |
| DaemonFC | that claims to represent that country | Nov 27 12:40 |
| DaemonFC | but it represents the RIAA | Nov 27 12:40 |
| DaemonFC | they rebranded themselves as Music Canada in Canada recently | Nov 27 12:40 |
| Brendan_T | $represents$ | Nov 27 12:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Do you want to help moderate? Weekend nights in North America are our worst time. | Nov 27 12:40 | |
| DaemonFC | yeah, they're basically just an RIAA satellite office | Nov 27 12:40 |
| DaemonFC | which specializes in gaming that particular country's legal and lobbying/bribes system | Nov 27 12:41 |
| Brendan_T | sad really | Nov 27 12:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Impressed. Reconnect time to wireless on my Lenovo X1 with Fedora 16 on par with iOS/MacOS. Means extremely fast! | Nov 27 12:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] OK, you're now a modhelper. On a spammer's profile page, use the "moderate/silence" button to silence them. Thanks for helping! | Nov 27 12:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] When you see a spammer, you click a button that keeps them from posting. It's pretty simple and helps a lot! | Nov 27 12:47 | |
| Brendan_T | good night | Nov 27 12:48 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Sure, that'd be great. Let me see what I can do. | Nov 27 12:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] OK, we can discuss that. Having someone dedicated to keeping the XMPP bot running would be a good start. | Nov 27 12:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I use the hacker's keyboard. It's great! | Nov 27 12:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] voted for "GNOME 3" | Nov 27 12:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I am surprised by the numbers right now! | Nov 27 12:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "The shaken CSF troops confided to the medical team that the violence was incited by youngsters who were paid 150 to 30... http://b1t.it/1Uy | Nov 27 12:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Not a problem if he speaks ill. However, he won't be able to get more chips from the cashier's cage unless you co-sign. | Nov 27 13:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] trying to learn some Chinese and making up for some missed days... why is counting fish described with 条 ? fish is not so stick-like to me! | Nov 27 13:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] apparently there are signs that #GarySpeed killed himself :( !football | Nov 27 13:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] That sounds like a great plan. | Nov 27 13:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I hadn't seen JSBot before. How well does it work? | Nov 27 13:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Done! Just go to a spammer's page, hit "moderate" button, choose "silence". | Nov 27 13:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Really? Weird. I didn't do anything! | Nov 27 13:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] So, is there an #ultrabook that works even remotely well with any Linux distro? I'm looking at you, @system76. | Nov 27 13:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Casos de Sucesso na utilização de Software Livre | Nixware - #flossfiles #ovigia - Free Software all over the world http://goo.gl/DhGi4 | Nov 27 13:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] #USA - The land of the #Free (unles you're on a secret list, that is) ur1.ca/65314 ur1.ca/65319 | Nov 27 13:23 | |
| DaemonFC | Firefox is now calling x86 "Intel" | Nov 27 13:33 |
| DaemonFC | https://nightly.mozilla.org/ | Nov 27 13:34 |
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| DaemonFC | when did that happen? | Nov 27 13:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Fedora 16 ftw! | Nov 27 13:37 | |
| schestowitz | Maybe trying to make it simpler and less technical | Nov 27 13:41 |
| schestowitz | "Intel-compatible" might sound better | Nov 27 13:42 |
| schestowitz | not good, but better | Nov 27 13:42 |
| DaemonFC | Firefox 11 nightlies have nailed some more memshrink related issues | Nov 27 13:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Shared a post "langsam ändert sich das Bild der USA...." http://ur1.ca/653ne | Nov 27 13:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Wonderful stats on what Linux people run on the machines - http://ur1.ca/653ng | Nov 27 13:53 | |
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| DaemonFC | I did some skimming of that MATE thing | Nov 27 13:57 |
| DaemonFC | it's not well documented in English | Nov 27 13:57 |
| DaemonFC | I couldn't figure out how many people are maintaining it or what if any changes have been made to GNOME 2 other than renaming a bunch of stuff | Nov 27 13:57 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] well, the #Crunchbang installer is confusing, I have no idea if it's going to work this time round | Nov 27 14:02 | |
| DaemonFC | http://omgcheesecake.net/index.php?/topic/1316-ubutards-want-sopa/ | Nov 27 14:09 |
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| DaemonFC | lol | Nov 27 14:09 |
| DaemonFC | the guy on Ubuntu Forums had a point though | Nov 27 14:11 |
| DaemonFC | if you cut off sites that offer pirate copies of Windows, and over half of Windows users pirate it, what would they end up doing? | Nov 27 14:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] usually after the install part, it's the bootloader, not default back to install, then odd warnings about unclean | Nov 27 14:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] With friends like the DMCA, who needs SOPA? - http://bit.ly/tiuTKq good point: just because #SOPA is awful doesn't make #DMCA good | Nov 27 14:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Textmining: My years negotiating with Elsevier - http://bit.ly/vcQ3vS important post; shameful state of affairs #openaccess | Nov 27 14:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody With friends like the DMCA, who needs SOPA? - http://bit.ly/tiuTKq good point: just because #SOPA is awful doesn't make #D ... | Nov 27 14:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] While in other countries, many media awards have been given to WikiLeaks related journalists. | Nov 27 14:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Iranian Parliament agrees to expel British ambassador and to downgrade diplomatic ties. http://ur1.ca/654ww | Nov 27 14:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @ggreenwald: As the US Government harasses its supporters & works to destroy it, WikiLeaks wins top journalism award in Australia: ht ... | Nov 27 15:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wikileaks2 RT @ggreenwald: As the US Government harasses its supporters & works to destroy it, WikiLeaks wins top journalism award i ... | Nov 27 15:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Great news! !Linux !Mint in partnership with #DuckDuckGo: ur1.ca/63tz5 /via @sirmacik | Nov 27 15:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wikileaks2 Congtatulations on winning the Aussie equivalent of Pulitzer :D | Nov 27 15:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "A seal walks into a club." #AntiJoke !memes http://anti-joke.com/ | Nov 27 15:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 9 Reasons Wired Readers Should Wear Tinfoil Hats | Threat Level | Wired.com - #usa #policestate #nwo #surveillance http://goo.gl/WM1aW | Nov 27 15:23 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 9 Reasons Wired Readers Should Wear Tinfoil Hats | Threat Level | Wired.com .::. Size~: 68.81 KB | Nov 27 15:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Piratebox: NYU Professor Designs File-Sharing Program for Students. http://ur1.ca/655uh !floss | Nov 27 15:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] People behind Debian: Stefano Zacchiroli http://ur1.ca/656by | Nov 27 15:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Assange: VISA is a national security threat http://t.co/jjZ2EQzO | Nov 27 15:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 27 15:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @AnneCruyt je volgt @magalielie nog niet! | Nov 27 15:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @JozefColpaert: Vakbonden wanhopig op zoek naar bestaansreden. Wat iedereen nu moet doen is slikken, http://ur1. ... | Nov 27 15:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: De vakbonden zouden beter staken door niet te staken. #metastaking | Nov 27 15:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @JudithStr: Opmerkelijk dat jongeren vooral verbolgen reageren op de reactie van de vakbonden.. (en terecht) | Nov 27 15:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @t1mdp: Allez jong, de vakbonden gaan betogen? Dat had ik nu nooit verwacht. #nogov | Nov 27 15:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @AnneCruyt hoera, hoera, hoera! | Nov 27 15:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #ACLU Study Highlights U.S. #Surveillance Society | Threat Level | Wired - #usa #policestate http://goo.gl/3uMM | Nov 27 16:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Nice! Are you using the tinymce plugin? | Nov 27 16:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] That's good! | Nov 27 16:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Which #Telecoms Store Your Data the Longest? Secret Memo Tells All | Threat Level | Wired - #usa #policestate http://goo.gl/cZazX | Nov 27 16:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Encrypted sms Apps - #Android - #crypto http://goo.gl/vmPl3 http://goo.gl/ep5rW | Nov 27 16:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Parandroid project - #android #privacy #flosstools #sms http://goo.gl/2BtVU | Nov 27 16:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The #freemona Perfect Storm: Dissent and the Networked Public Sphere - http://bit.ly/tJzSoa important story, well told (v @jeffjarvis) | Nov 27 16:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks wins International Freedom of Expression Award 2011 Voice of the West http://t.co/TpKQhBD8 | Nov 27 16:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Copyright is Unconstitutional - http://bit.ly/scxDi3 not quite sure what this "constitution" thing is, but sounds an interesting idea | Nov 27 16:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Use the abominations as a warning to the passable ones what can happen if they disobey you. | Nov 27 16:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Trecho - Documentário "Let's make money" - Ex-assassino econômico John Perkins - YouTube - #economichitman http://goo.gl/4Bx8h | Nov 27 16:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Either your clock is off, or there's something wrong with one of our servers. | Nov 27 16:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I agree. | Nov 27 16:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I just checked your server version -- you're using Textile, not the TinyMCE. Glad it's working for you, though! | Nov 27 16:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] http://identi.ca/url/61038395 is an excellent overview. Modernizr does a great job of detecting localStorage, which is really nice! | Nov 27 16:45 | |
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| DaemonFC | whoever designed the streets in this town is killing me in gasoline cost | Nov 27 16:48 |
| DaemonFC | one way street here, another over there | Nov 27 16:48 |
| DaemonFC | every town building is on another street several blocks over | Nov 27 16:48 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Nov 27 16:48 |
| DaemonFC | I need to go three different places and they're all on the opposite sides of town | Nov 27 16:48 |
| DaemonFC | better get cracking :P | Nov 27 16:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] When we have access to free knowledge, we are better people. !q Brandon Harris Programmer, #Wikimedia Foundation http://ur1.ca/657fn !cc | Nov 27 16:53 | |
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| *amarsh04 just noticed the Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy reference - Marvin the paranoid android | Nov 27 17:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Why don’t the "Non partisan" Taxpayers’ Alliance criticise Boris spending plans? http://ur1.ca/659bz #frontgroups | Nov 27 17:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp ge wilt gewoon meer vrienden gij! | Nov 27 17:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Geneva here I come! | Nov 27 17:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Don't track shoppers without consent. http://ur1.ca/659hx #privacy | Nov 27 17:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] MT @BiellaColeman @sepiamutiny: India's #biometric ID probs; laborers often lack fingerprints b/c of excessive work http://bit.ly/v5FvN7 | Nov 27 17:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Russian Internet (Runet) Becomes More Opaque - http://bit.ly/uepFP0 #RIAA, #MPAA will love this (v @evgenymorozov) #russia | Nov 27 17:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "Why anxiety is good for you" or how Time thinks that it's American readers apparently need nursing ur1.ca/6571r | Nov 27 17:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Reply Given in Arkell v. Pressdram - http://bit.ly/sc6YkN truly wunnerful #privateeye | Nov 27 17:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] für antiquierte #ICE ohne Steckdosen sollte man sich wohl eine ebenso antiquierte Reiseschreibmaschine kaufen. #db #bahn #fail | Nov 27 17:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Garry speed the Wales manager has died unexpectedly aged 42. | Nov 27 17:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jack of Kent: The Reply Given in Arkell v. Pressdram .::. Size~: 99.05 KB | Nov 27 17:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Funny :) | Nov 27 17:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Now #China to probe U.S. renewable energy support - http://reut.rs/vYHBkS superpower annoyed with pesky Muricans... | Nov 27 17:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Now China to probe U.S. renewable energy support | Reuters .::. Size~: 99.82 KB | Nov 27 17:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK Houses of Parliament police: no political material allowed in Parliament - http://bit.ly/tkJbUx riiiight | Nov 27 17:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @ZDNet: Stanford expands free, online information technology course offerings http://t.co/qgFT9HpP | Nov 27 17:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 27 17:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] COHA: Helms-Burton Act: Resurrecting the Iron Curtain. http://ur1.ca/659ys !Cubanews | Nov 27 17:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] with great power comes no responsibility - the motto of the elite | Nov 27 17:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] last dent shoulda read "with great power comes no accountability" | Nov 27 17:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Real time communication made possible with !HTML5 Video and WebRTC (yes, webcams!) in WebKit GTK+ http://redd.it/mqzpk !gnu | Nov 27 17:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Missing content type. Ignoring. | Nov 27 17:54 |
| *schestowitz back from 2-hour rowing practice | Nov 27 17:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Emirates seems to offer in flight cell phone use. No thanks. First flight on Emirates. | Nov 27 17:57 | |
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| Chunk_ | hey roy | Nov 27 18:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Seems the "material" in question was a pop-up exhibition stand, not briefing notes. May not be unreasonable. | Nov 27 18:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] as long as the AUR script is correct :) | Nov 27 18:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] anyone know the font used on the #Nostromo in #Alien? The CPU interface to Mother.....oh, and where to get it, or close to it | Nov 27 18:13 | |
| schestowitz | hey mate | Nov 27 18:14 |
| schestowitz | cool yeah :-) | Nov 27 18:14 |
| schestowitz | Guess what? | Nov 27 18:14 |
| schestowitz | The profile and chat thing I told you about? | Nov 27 18:15 |
| schestowitz | Turns out it may have been fake | Nov 27 18:15 |
| schestowitz | Hang on, let me email you this.. | Nov 27 18:15 |
| schestowitz | check your mail now, fwd'ed | Nov 27 18:16 |
| Chunk_ | ok | Nov 27 18:16 |
| schestowitz | let me know what you make of it | Nov 27 18:17 |
| schestowitz | Bascially, this is getting more complicated than I had anticipated :-) | Nov 27 18:17 |
| schestowitz | I wrote 8 articles today | Nov 27 18:17 |
| schestowitz | I'll mail you about this. | Nov 27 18:22 |
| Chunk_ | shall i pm you this is not the right forum i think for discussion | Nov 27 18:22 |
| schestowitz | sure | Nov 27 18:22 |
| cubezzz | it's logged too :) | Nov 27 18:35 |
| schestowitz | which is fine | Nov 27 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | I've been considering a 15,000 RPM hard drive for a while | Nov 27 18:39 |
| schestowitz | what about SSD? | Nov 27 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | but every time I see one go on sale, it's like 80 GB or something, pfft | Nov 27 18:40 |
| cubezzz | 80 gigs is all you need | Nov 27 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | SSDs are outrageously priced | Nov 27 18:40 |
| *DaemonFC is listening to Go Your Own Way by Fleetwood Mac on Greatest Hits [Amarok] | Nov 27 18:43 | |
| cubezzz | my 52 meg scsi drive still works | Nov 27 18:43 |
| cubezzz | old quantums seemed to last the longest | Nov 27 18:44 |
| DaemonFC | http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?65244-Catalyst-XvBA-on-a-Live-CD&p=240262#post240262 | Nov 27 18:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Catalyst+XvBA on a Live CD .::. Size~: 40.05 KB | Nov 27 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | someone asking about Live CDs that have FGLRX on them already | Nov 27 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | there's a few | Nov 27 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | Sabayon is usually one, but they had so many problems with Catalyst this time around that it defaults to open source for radeons | Nov 27 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | it works fine this month, until you launch something that uses Xv | Nov 27 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | then X server crashes | Nov 27 18:50 |
| *DaemonFC is listening to Everywhere by Fleetwood Mac on Greatest Hits [Amarok] | Nov 27 18:51 | |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Nov 27 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?65262-Debating-A-Software-Center-For-Fedora&p=240318#post240318 | Nov 27 19:04 |
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| MinceR | 133221 < DaemonFC> MinceR: Thank you for buying a $700 iPad, you have saved 0.0000000000001 African children | Nov 27 19:09 |
| MinceR | from freedom? | Nov 27 19:09 |
| MinceR | finally they can get a little fascism (courtesy of crApple) to go with their AIDS (courtesy of the catholic cult)? | Nov 27 19:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] New issue of the Bulletin is in the mail and on the way to !FSF supporters. Let us know here when yours arrives! !gnu !dbd | Nov 27 19:12 | |
| DaemonFC | Product Red, or as I like to call it 'Thank you for buying a $700 iPad, your purchase has just saved 1/100,000,000,000,000th of one African child. Come again!' | Nov 27 19:12 |
| DaemonFC | Bono is such a walking shit stain | Nov 27 19:13 |
| DaemonFC | I wish he'd just die of a heart attack and quit mocking poor people | Nov 27 19:13 |
| DaemonFC | 1% of $700 is $7, obviously | Nov 27 19:14 |
| DaemonFC | that's before the overhead of the Product Red program | Nov 27 19:14 |
| DaemonFC | it's hardly a charity once you get to that alone | Nov 27 19:14 |
| DaemonFC | by the time you're done roughly 50 cents of your iPad went to help people with AIDS in Africa | Nov 27 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | that entire program is such a load of crap | Nov 27 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | if you want to give to charity, give to charity | Nov 27 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | don't act like a smug asshole because 1/10th of 1 percent of your iPad went to AIDS medicine for someone | Nov 27 19:16 |
| DaemonFC | you could have gotten a Android tablet with more features for $300 less and donated $300 directly to charity | Nov 27 19:17 |
| DaemonFC | no? :) | Nov 27 19:17 |
| MinceR | but they can't be smug about an android tablet | Nov 27 19:20 |
| MinceR | maybe because it doesn't come with fascism | Nov 27 19:20 |
| MinceR | or belonging to a cult | Nov 27 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Anything that says Apple on it is pretty much entirely needless markup over the non-Apple version of that product category | Nov 27 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | people like throwing their money away so they can flash their trinkets around like a peacock doing a mating ritual | Nov 27 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Steve Wozniak getting an Android tablet was a pretty powerful rejection of Apple | Nov 27 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | at least for those who noticed | Nov 27 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | but he got out of Apple a long time ago and was on Steve Jobs' hate list for years | Nov 27 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | so he might be alright | Nov 27 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/walmart-pepper-spraying-customer-charged-report-article-1.983094 | Nov 27 19:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Walmart pepper-spraying customer may not be charged: report - NY Daily News .::. Size~: 139.28 KB | Nov 27 19:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The death of Garry Speed the Wales manager is now being reported as suicide. | Nov 27 19:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When Former Microsoft Employees Turn Against #Microsoft http://ur1.ca/65cyo #tax | Nov 27 19:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Royal Mail Has Problems With Microsoft http://ur1.ca/65cyy #windows #fail #mail | Nov 27 19:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: When Former Microsoft Employees Turn Against Microsoft | Techrights .::. Size~: 91.56 KB | Nov 27 19:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Royal Mail Has Problems With Microsoft | Techrights .::. Size~: 88.14 KB | Nov 27 19:39 |
| schestowitz | LOL https://joindiaspora.com/posts/902001 | Nov 27 19:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 27 19:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bush, Blair found guilty of war crimes http://ur1.ca/65cz2 but not in a country that owns the world | Nov 27 19:40 | |
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| MinceR | dunno, woz also raved about the hypePhone and mentioned that he keeps a real phone as "backup" | Nov 27 19:41 |
| MinceR | so he isn't exactly sane | Nov 27 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | for when he holds the Apple phone the wrong way? :) | Nov 27 19:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @schestowitz Bush, Blair found guilty of war crimes http://ur1.ca/65d5x but not in a country that owns the world | Nov 27 19:47 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: PressTV - Bush, Blair found guilty of war crimes .::. Size~: 17.07 KB | Nov 27 19:47 |
| MinceR | maybe when he needs to make a call or something other than dicking around | Nov 27 19:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] appMobi releases HTML5 code for mobile. http://www.eetindia.co.in/ART_8800656596_1800001_NT_5eab8de4.HTM !floss | Nov 27 19:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: appMobi releases HTML5 code for mobile tech .::. Size~: 55.13 KB | Nov 27 19:59 |
| *bluebomber (~michael@cpe-24-160-66-154.tampabay.res.rr.com) has joined #techrights | Nov 27 20:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] great cinema moments: the lighting of the beacons in #LOTR #ReturnOfTheKing | Nov 27 20:05 | |
| *iophk has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | Nov 27 20:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Patents Roundup: Broken System as the News Attests to the Failure http://ur1.ca/65e0s #swpats | Nov 27 20:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Patents Roundup: Broken System as the News Attests to the Failure | Techrights .::. Size~: 95.72 KB | Nov 27 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | seems Mint also decided to go ahead and add Scroogle to the list of Firefox engines that are preloaded | Nov 27 20:19 |
| Brendan_T | I think we add then in parabola by default as a patch to icecat to remove more privacy disrespecting ones | Nov 27 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | I wouldn't use a system that hid options they disagreed with from me | Nov 27 20:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The !Copyright Industry – A Century Of Deceit | TorrentFreak http://goo.gl/86bfB | Nov 27 20:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 27 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | even if it was the only choice | Nov 27 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | like Flash player | Nov 27 20:22 |
| Brendan_T | gnash :) | Nov 27 20:23 |
| Brendan_T | it is a concerning thing yeah but the idea is to try hardest to get rid of those things | Nov 27 20:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] Help us promote #LCA2012 at your workplace or community group with this awesome poster! http://t.co/IPSt44LB | Nov 27 20:24 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 27 20:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] http://ur1.ca/65efn #sip_and_click I had a guest photographer | Nov 27 20:27 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: coffee.jezra: a coffee a day photo project | 2011-11-27 .::. Size~: 6.21 KB | Nov 27 20:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] A pile of stable kernel updates http://ur1.ca/65ehj | Nov 27 20:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux Mint 12 Review http://gnuman.com/?p=94 #linuxmint #gnu #linux | Nov 27 20:29 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: A pile of stable kernel updates [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 7.62 KB | Nov 27 20:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux Mint 12 Review | Gnuman.com .::. Size~: 29.18 KB | Nov 27 20:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] RT @okfn European Commission to adopt Open Data Strategy bit.ly/us6HLy | Nov 27 20:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #BodhiLinux http://ur1.ca/65ek7 another new derivative of #Ubuntu | Nov 27 20:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bodhi Linux .::. Size~: 12.49 KB | Nov 27 20:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mageia 2 alpha 1 screenshots preview http://ur1.ca/65elv #linux | Nov 27 20:34 | |
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| DaemonFC | right | Nov 27 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | now I better hope nothing knocks me offline for about 5 hours | Nov 27 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | because I'm on the shitlist of everyone in that game right now | Nov 27 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 27 20:41 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/902000 | Nov 27 20:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 27 20:41 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Nov 27 20:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Facebook accounts got cracked http://ur1.ca/65ew6 how much do you like the site now? | Nov 27 20:42 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Huge amount of facebook account hacked by Cr@zy 3xpl0!t - Pastebin.com .::. Size~: 531.4 KB | Nov 27 20:42 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/901141 | Nov 27 20:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 27 20:43 |
| Brendan_T | people mistake hacking for cracking and now cracking for phishing | Nov 27 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | sebsebseb was right about Droid fonts (might not have been him, someone mentioned them a week or so ago) | Nov 27 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | I switched over my entire desktop and Firefox to using them | Nov 27 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | they are very legible | Nov 27 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | oh sweet | Nov 27 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart gets sued | Nov 27 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | I pass go, collect some money | Nov 27 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 27 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | I like when that happens | Nov 27 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | I signed up as a party to the lawsuit and settlement | Nov 27 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | I'll probably get $20 or something | Nov 27 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Nov 27 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | damned layers | Nov 27 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | *lawyers | Nov 27 21:00 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/902818 | Nov 27 21:15 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 27 21:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 27 21:15 |
| schestowitz | Another that they need to account for, in the days when they thought they were 'untouchable', is how they destroyed the programmer that developed NT when he objected to release before he believed it was ready. | Nov 27 21:15 |
| schestowitz | Killed him in the end with a stroke or heart attack. I can't recall which, off the top. Relentlessly drove him to it. | Nov 27 21:15 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 27 21:15 |
| schestowitz | "I'm glad to see that Mageia follows the tradition! I'm Mandriva ex-user, now use Mageia 1 as my primary distro." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/903295 | Nov 27 21:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 27 21:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The King James Bible and eternal #copyright. http://ur1.ca/65g2s | Nov 27 21:19 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Letters: The King James Bible and eternal copyright | Books | The Guardian .::. Size~: 121.44 KB | Nov 27 21:19 |
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| schestowitz | " | Nov 27 21:33 |
| schestowitz | % size(x,1) | Nov 27 21:33 |
| schestowitz | % size(x,1)*4/10 | Nov 27 21:33 |
| schestowitz | % (size(x,1)*4/10):size(x,1) | Nov 27 21:33 |
| schestowitz | % figure; | Nov 27 21:33 |
| schestowitz | % imshow(combined_data((size(x,1)*nose_crop_crop_from_top):size(x,1),1:size(x,2)*nose_crop_crop_from_top,3), [-3000,-2000]) | Nov 27 21:33 |
| schestowitz | Nov 27 21:33 | |
| schestowitz | Nov 27 21:33 | |
| schestowitz | top_candidate=max(max(combined_data((size(x,1)*nose_crop_crop_from_top):(size(x,1)*nose_crop_crop_from_bottom),1:size(x,2),3))); % get points closest to camera (likely nose, assuming no noise/tilt/etc.) | Nov 27 21:33 |
| schestowitz | % size(x,1)*nose_crop_crop_from_top | Nov 27 21:33 |
| schestowitz | % size(x,1) | Nov 27 21:33 |
| schestowitz | % size(x,2) | Nov 27 21:33 |
| schestowitz | Nov 27 21:33 | |
| schestowitz | top_candidate_position=findit(combined_data((size(x,1)*nose_crop_crop_from_top):(size(x,1)*nose_crop_crop_from_bottom),1:size(x,2),3), 1); % get position of the said point | Nov 27 21:33 |
| schestowitz | top_candidate_position(1)=top_candidate_position(1)+size(x,1)*nose_crop_crop_from_top-1; | Nov 27 21:33 |
| schestowitz | tip_distances_temp=combined_data(top_candidate_position(1),top_candidate_position(2),3)-combined_data(top_candidate_position(1),top_candidate_position(2)-pseudo_sphere_radius,3)+(combined_data(top_candidate_position(1),top_candidate_position(2),3)-combined_data(top_candidate_position(1),top_candidate_position(2)+pseudo_sphere_radius,3)); | Nov 27 21:33 |
| schestowitz | if (tip_distances_temp<nose_steepness || ~(tip_distances_temp>-30000)) % maybe forehead of hair | Nov 27 21:33 |
| schestowitz | top_candidate=max(max(combined_data((size(x,1)*nose_crop_crop_from_top_fallback):(size(x,1)*nose_crop_crop_from_bottom),1:size(x,2),3))); | Nov 27 21:33 |
| schestowitz | top_candidate_position=findit(combined_data((size(x,1)*nose_crop_crop_from_top_fallback):(size(x,1)*nose_crop_crop_from_bottom),1:size(x,2),3), 1); | Nov 27 21:33 |
| schestowitz | top_candidate_position(1)=top_candidate_position(1)+size(x,1)*nose_crop_crop_from_top_fallback-1; | Nov 27 21:33 |
| schestowitz | oh crap | Nov 27 21:33 |
| schestowitz | wrong window | Nov 27 21:33 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] wtf, I bought the Introversion #HumbleBundle but #defcon asks me for some "key". halp @humble? | Nov 27 21:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Assange speech: accepts Walkley award from house arrest, brands PM cowardly http://t.co/jN6fLHXz | Nov 27 21:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 27 21:40 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] R» @rysiek: Great news! #Linux #Mint in partnership with #DuckDuckGo: ur1.ca/63tz5 /via @sirmacik | Nov 27 21:44 | |
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| *DaemonFC is listening to Stylo by Gorillaz on Plastic Beach [Amarok] | Nov 27 21:47 | |
| prurigro | DaemonFC: yo, any idea why the fedora install says there's a filesystem error when it finishes? | Nov 27 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | nope | Nov 27 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | probably because you have a filesystem error :) | Nov 27 21:48 |
| prurigro | its a brand new harddrive | Nov 27 21:48 |
| prurigro | I'm trying to use lvm and encryption | Nov 27 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | try deleting the existing partition table | Nov 27 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | and making a new one | Nov 27 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | oh | Nov 27 21:49 |
| prurigro | I deleted everything with parted | Nov 27 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | I don't use those | Nov 27 21:49 |
| prurigro | hmm, maybe I'll try without then | Nov 27 21:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] UK extradition abuses Parliamentary transcript http://t.co/yybdE14K | Nov 27 21:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 27 21:50 |
| *DaemonFC is listening to On Melancholy Hill by Gorillaz on Plastic Beach [Amarok] | Nov 27 21:55 | |
| *MinceR is listening to: Chronblom - Geo-Matrix (Schizophonic version) | Nov 27 21:56 | |
| DaemonFC | http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/9458/snapshot20o.png | Nov 27 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Nov 27 21:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Nov 27 21:56 |
| prurigro | DaemonFC: what game's that? | Nov 27 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | war commander | Nov 27 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | I have a fifth mortar | Nov 27 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | but I hide it behind the command center | Nov 27 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | so the enemy player has a really hard time trying to target it | Nov 27 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | as it's showering him with shells | Nov 27 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 27 21:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The “Free #Syria Army”: Placard-Waving Protesters are actually Machine Gun-Wielding Terrorists - #usa #stateterrorism http://goo.gl/NWBNw | Nov 27 21:59 | |
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| prurigro | for facebook? | Nov 27 21:59 |
| MinceR | for pony! | Nov 27 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | once my level 5 command center is finished, I will get one more mortar and one more turret | Nov 27 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | and twice as many land units and air units to commit to a battle :) | Nov 27 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | for Facebook, yeah | Nov 27 21:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: La historia de los humanos http://t.co/JmrTfEBf | Nov 27 22:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 27 22:00 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2444 | Nov 27 22:00 |
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| *DaemonFC is listening to Feel Good Inc. by Gorillaz on Demon Days [Amarok] | Nov 27 22:00 | |
| *MinceR is listening to: Emre Bulsat - The Trust | Nov 27 22:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Man-Made Super-Flu Could Kill Half Humanity - #bioweapons #bigpharma http://goo.gl/oGMy0 | Nov 27 22:02 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Man-Made Super-Flu Could Kill Half Humanity : .::. Size~: 52.86 KB | Nov 27 22:02 |
| MinceR | why only half? | Nov 27 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | easy | Nov 27 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | Jesus spares the rest | Nov 27 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | only to kill them personally so they can go to heaven | Nov 27 22:03 |
| MinceR | Jesus saves and takes half damage? | Nov 27 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Nov 27 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | no | Nov 27 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | he saves by shopping at Walmart | Nov 27 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | and he remembers his pepper spray | Nov 27 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | gon spray a bitch | Nov 27 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | ;) | Nov 27 22:04 |
| MinceR | i thought he saved by pressing Ctrl+S | Nov 27 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | Command + S | Nov 27 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | Jesus is not computer literate | Nov 27 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | last time he was around, they were all analog and msot of them mounted to ships | Nov 27 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | ;) | Nov 27 22:06 |
| MinceR | and how is the idiot box working out for him? | Nov 27 22:06 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/903295 "I'm glad to see that Mageia follows the tradition! I'm Mandriva ex-user, now use Mageia 1 as my primary distro." | Nov 27 22:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 27 22:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Urge the USA Senate to Oppose Indefinite Military Detention. http://ur1.ca/65hlo | Nov 27 22:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] There is a thought. Where is the RMS bot? | Nov 27 22:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !tzag !NaNoWriMo wordcount up to 28716 words so far ... Now I'm awake after all-nighter sleep recovery #funnyitwasn'tsohardincollege | Nov 27 22:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @parlementum uber cool! RD @Linux_Mint Linux Mint signs a partnership with @DuckDuckGo: http://t.co/DR4jscCx | Nov 27 22:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @satipera Urge the USA Senate to Oppose Indefinite Military Detention. http://ur1.ca/65hlo | Nov 27 22:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @marjoleink @lnxwalt280 @csolisr ha! I had not heard of WTFPL but that may be a bridge too far ;) I like that it's approved as GPL-co ... | Nov 27 22:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] ? | Nov 27 22:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "[T]he ponzi scheme economy is reliant upon constant growth, promoting kids is part of this" ~message from a friend | Nov 27 22:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] What Really Happened to Strauss-Kahn? - http://bit.ly/vVsJfc wow, this does look intriguing, to say the least... (v @declanm) | Nov 27 22:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @wikileaks2 Assange speech: accepts Walkley award from house arrest, brands PM cowardly http://ur1.ca/65i54 | Nov 27 22:27 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: What Really Happened to Strauss-Kahn? by Edward Jay Epstein | The New York Review of Books .::. Size~: 52.07 KB | Nov 27 22:27 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "Censorship has been privatised." ~ Julian Assange !q http://ur1.ca/65i54 !WikiLeaks !Injustice | Nov 27 22:29 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://blogs.computerworld.com/19199/open_office_installs_vulnerable_java_software | Nov 27 22:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Open Office installs vulnerable Java software - Computerworld Blogs .::. Size~: 79.05 KB | Nov 27 22:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] this isn't cool, it's a double standard. remember how everyone blew up @ canonical when they signed agreement w/ yahoo 4 default search? | Nov 27 22:30 | |
| DaemonFC | phasing out the Java dependency is a good thing for LibreOffice | Nov 27 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | desktop Java is a bloated beast | Nov 27 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | http://betanews.com/2011/11/24/cant-afford-microsoft-office-take-starter-for-free/ | Nov 27 22:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Can't afford Microsoft Office? Take Starter for free .::. Size~: 27.53 KB | Nov 27 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | They can't be serious..... | Nov 27 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 27 22:31 |
| -Martinp23-[Global Notice] Hi folks - the eagerly awaited round of upgrades for this week is about to start. Four servers will be restarted - users on affected servers will receive further notifications in a moment. Sorry for the inconvenience, but enjoy the ride and have a good evening. I'll let you know when we're done. | Nov 27 22:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] You should talk about this more. Tell your government. Blog, talk to other NL creators. Get them to change the law to allow for it. | Nov 27 22:39 | |
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| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Starter makes 2003 look good | Nov 27 22:42 |
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| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Hell, it makes Microsoft Works look good | Nov 27 22:42 |
| XFaCE | what a joke | Nov 27 22:42 |
| sebsebseb | hi | Nov 27 22:42 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/900239 "Oops" | Nov 27 22:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 27 22:43 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: mageia in the news today | Nov 27 22:43 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Where? | Nov 27 22:43 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I already have a expereince story for Alpha 1 :D | Nov 27 22:43 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: "he bottom line: Office Starter 2010 is a loss-leader for a paid version of Microsoft Office 2010. If you've gotten by with MS Works (or Google Docs) in the past, you'll probably be fine with Starter Edition 2010. If you've ever faced the limits of MS Works - or simply need to create PowerPoint presentations - you'll need a version of Office 2010 that actually costs money." | Nov 27 22:43 |
| sebsebseb | and regarding my headset as well :D | Nov 27 22:43 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: yeah | Nov 27 22:43 |
| sebsebseb | to do with my headset and so on | Nov 27 22:43 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Lol, or just run fucking LibreOffice | Nov 27 22:43 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: link? | Nov 27 22:43 |
| MinceR | wow, they were forked again? :> | Nov 27 22:44 |
| schestowitz | see the latest post in techrights | Nov 27 22:44 |
| schestowitz | Under the mageia/mandriva section | Nov 27 22:44 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: if you use this word, try to use ** in it | Nov 27 22:45 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: the proper Mageia episode, with that founder, not sure when that will be, but | Nov 27 22:45 |
| schestowitz | I almost always censor myself if I really must use this language | Nov 27 22:45 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: already know how I want that episode to be like and have done for quite a while :D | Nov 27 22:45 |
| schestowitz | Because it self-nuked the forum | Nov 27 22:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #SOPA will lead to Internet lawlessness - http://bit.ly/vJ0ujk "plays fast & loose with important notions of due process. (v @ipjustice) | Nov 27 22:45 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: U.S. SOPA will lead to Internet lawlessness - expert: Voice of Russia .::. Size~: 54.83 KB | Nov 27 22:45 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: F**k you | Nov 27 22:45 |
| XFaCE | :) | Nov 27 22:45 |
| MinceR | how did it self-nuke the forum? | Nov 27 22:45 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: yes, tim has been ultra-busy | Nov 27 22:45 |
| schestowitz | everyone seems like | Nov 27 22:45 |
| schestowitz | it | Nov 27 22:45 |
| MinceR | also, "Fucking** LibreOffice"? | Nov 27 22:46 |
| schestowitz | This November | Nov 27 22:46 |
| -Martinp23-[Global Notice] Hi folks - upgrades are done. Hope you enjoyed the ride - next sunday is our next round. Thanks for your patience and have a great day/evening/etc. :) | Nov 27 22:46 | |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: yeah, but I am hoping next month | Nov 27 22:46 |
| schestowitz | More than in prior here | Nov 27 22:46 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: In the positive sense | Nov 27 22:46 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: can have a episode about Mageia, and that guy working on pulseaudio upstream even | Nov 27 22:46 |
| schestowitz | It's madness.... Chunk_stayed at work till 8pm on Friday | Nov 27 22:46 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: In the "It | Nov 27 22:46 |
| XFaCE | s bloody obvious, stop being silly" sense | Nov 27 22:46 |
| schestowitz | I have the last two weeks of November moistly off... paid holida | Nov 27 22:46 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: and mention the one I was on a bit as well, and expereinces of Alpha 1, well maybe even Alpha 2 or whatever, by the time it happens | Nov 27 22:46 |
| schestowitz | and then two weeks in December cause I hardly took any vacation during the year | Nov 27 22:46 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: ok :) | Nov 27 22:47 |
| schestowitz | but that doesn't help techbytes | Nov 27 22:47 |
| schestowitz | because tim is hard at work | Nov 27 22:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody #SOPA will lead to Internet lawlessness - http://bit.ly/vJ0ujk "plays fast & loose with important notions of due process. ... | Nov 27 22:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Esoteric Meaning of Florence + the Machine's "Shake it Out" and "No Light No Light" | Vigilant Citizen #vc #xfiles http://goo.gl/FzGKu | Nov 27 22:47 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: U.S. SOPA will lead to Internet lawlessness - expert: Voice of Russia .::. Size~: 54.83 KB | Nov 27 22:47 |
| schestowitz | we need to two for this type of tango | Nov 27 22:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Esoteric Meaning of Florence + the Machine's "Shake it Out" and "No Light No Light" | The Vigilant Citizen .::. Size~: 113.02 KB | Nov 27 22:47 |
| schestowitz | [22:46] <MinceR> also, "Fucking** LibreOffice"? | Nov 27 22:48 |
| schestowitz | LOL you're doin' it wrong !! | Nov 27 22:48 |
| MinceR | well, you said to put a ** in it :> | Nov 27 22:48 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: It's not fair. Diablo-D3 gets away with it. Therefore we all should! | Nov 27 22:50 |
| schestowitz | I was gonna say | Nov 27 22:50 |
| schestowitz | this is starting to look like a dialogue between Diablo-D3 and his mom :-) | Nov 27 22:50 |
| schestowitz | [in a good war /sarcasm] | Nov 27 22:51 |
| schestowitz | hey Chunk_ | Nov 27 22:51 |
| XFaCE | who's Chunk_ ? | Nov 27 22:55 |
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| MinceR | well, i don't think i've seen Diablo-D3's mom here | Nov 27 22:56 |
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| MinceR | that was fast | Nov 27 22:56 |
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| schestowitz | you beta me to it | Nov 27 22:57 |
| schestowitz | *beat | Nov 27 22:57 |
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| XFaCE | Great, now there's crap in my chat logs. | Nov 27 22:58 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: weporuiwepuropweiruweoprui | Nov 27 22:58 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: wepiruweprioweurweopiur | Nov 27 22:58 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: woiueropweiureopiwur | Nov 27 22:58 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: weiuorpweur | Nov 27 22:58 |
| schestowitz | I can clean that up | Nov 27 22:58 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: now a little bit more | Nov 27 22:58 |
| *MinceR slaps sebsebseb | Nov 27 22:58 | |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: heh heh | Nov 27 22:58 |
| *XFaCE doubleteams. | Nov 27 22:58 | |
| XFaCE | oooh | Nov 27 22:58 |
| XFaCE | maybhe not | Nov 27 22:58 |
| XFaCE | :S | Nov 27 22:58 |
| sebsebseb | doubleteams ??? | Nov 27 22:58 |
| XFaCE | Moving on... | Nov 27 22:59 |
| XFaCE | FTR,I meant doubleteamed slapping | Nov 27 22:59 |
| sebsebseb | FTRJ ??? | Nov 27 22:59 |
| XFaCE | in a completely approaiate way | Nov 27 22:59 |
| sebsebseb | and thought you meant you were like seconding it | Nov 27 22:59 |
| sebsebseb | What you mean FTRJ ? | Nov 27 22:59 |
| XFaCE | For the record... | Nov 27 23:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !NaNoWriMo has me behind in my reading.... This one made me laugh out loud: http://larryrusswurm.com/2011/11/21/4k/ ~ thanks @larryrusswurm | Nov 27 23:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 4k | The Many Rants of Larry Russwurm .::. Size~: 31.55 KB | Nov 27 23:00 |
| XFaCE | well that was a sad series of vents | Nov 27 23:01 |
| XFaCE | events | Nov 27 23:02 |
| XFaCE | whatever... | Nov 27 23:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Re DuckDuckGo see http://ur1.ca/64orp | Nov 27 23:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: DuckDuckGo Results No Better Than Bing, Becomes Default Search Engine Of Linux Mint | Muktware .::. Size~: 41.75 KB | Nov 27 23:04 |
| DaemonFC | Mark Shuttleworth came out, took some cheap indirect shots at everything not Unity, reminded everyone that Linux Mint's main edition needs Ubuntu | Nov 27 23:04 |
| DaemonFC | and went back into his hole | Nov 27 23:04 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Classic USI | Nov 27 23:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] A niech to dunder świśnie! Najwyraźniej Kościół w Polsce nie widzi ważniejszych tematów do zajęcia się i post http://ur1.ca/65jct | Nov 27 23:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Nov 27 23:05 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: when you at home or whatever next month? | Nov 27 23:06 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: I mean want to go on Techbytes then maybe with me, like we were saying before? | Nov 27 23:06 |
| sebsebseb | altough also hoping to go on next month with the Mageia founder :D | Nov 27 23:06 |
| XFaCE | Not for a little whilte more | Nov 27 23:06 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: you scared? heh heh | Nov 27 23:06 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: yeah that Mageia episode may take quit some arranging, I mean, Tim, you, me, the guy | Nov 27 23:07 |
| sebsebseb | ,but already have it planned in my head how I want it to be like :D | Nov 27 23:07 |
| schestowitz | you're the director, eh? | Nov 27 23:10 |
| schestowitz | sebastian spielberg | Nov 27 23:10 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: heh heh | Nov 27 23:12 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: no I want it to be quite good, send it off to the Mageia mailing lists and all that you know | Nov 27 23:13 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: anyway I was thinking: introduction stuff, talk about the episode I was on a bit, ask him what he thought of it even, well as he long as he listens, he might have already, then have you and Tim asking him questions mainly, maybe I Will sometimes as well even, have him talking about his work on pulseaudio upstream a bit as well, finnish off with a song, but also I want the alternative Techbytes tune at the very end I Think :D | Nov 27 23:14 |
| sebsebseb | and we aim for about two hours for the episode I think | Nov 27 23:14 |
| sebsebseb | by the longest you know | Nov 27 23:14 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: sounds good? | Nov 27 23:16 |
| sebsebseb | thing is both him and Tim get busy, and you more recently it seems as well? | Nov 27 23:16 |
| sebsebseb | I mean other than Techrights stuff and going to the gym | Nov 27 23:16 |
| schestowitz | I think we depend on Tim, the host | Nov 27 23:19 |
| *WHYY (5e4cdee3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.76.222.227) has joined #techrights | Nov 27 23:19 | |
| schestowitz | wait until he gets some time off | Nov 27 23:19 |
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| *schestowitz has kicked WHYY from #techrights (User term) | Nov 27 23:19 | |
| MinceR | nice shot | Nov 27 23:19 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Good draw | Nov 27 23:20 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: did you blacklist this gateway? | Nov 27 23:20 |
| MinceR | which one | Nov 27 23:20 |
| MinceR | ? | Nov 27 23:20 |
| *schestowitz gives channel operator status to XFaCE | Nov 27 23:20 | |
| *XFaCE gives channel operator status to prurigro | Nov 27 23:20 | |
| MinceR | the freenode web-irc gateway? | Nov 27 23:21 |
| MinceR | i didn't ban that, and Chunk_ is using it too, not just Shit | Nov 27 23:21 |
| *MinceR sets ban on *!*@gateway/*/ip.94.76.222.227 | Nov 27 23:21 | |
| XFaCE | !google whyy | Nov 27 23:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - WHYY | http://www.whyy.org/ | Nov 27 23:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Radio | WHYY | http://www.whyy.org/91FM/ | Nov 27 23:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Listen Live | Radio | WHYY | http://www.whyy.org/91FM/live.html | Nov 27 23:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - TV | WHYY | http://www.whyy.org/tv12/ | Nov 27 23:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] sleep well @mvdan !tzaf | Nov 27 23:25 | |
| XFaCE | Maybe he was trying to promote the stations. | Nov 27 23:25 |
| XFaCE | lol | Nov 27 23:26 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: oh, I see | Nov 27 23:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Now i'd best get back to writing #nanoturtles !NaNoWriMo #amwriting | Nov 27 23:27 | |
| XFaCE | MinceR: schestowitz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9URRJ8TfMO0 | Nov 27 23:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: WHYY Philadelphia Ident - Kerrigan Variant - YouTube .::. Size~: 91.63 KB | Nov 27 23:27 |
| MinceR | gn | Nov 27 23:30 |
| XFaCE | have a good sleep | Nov 27 23:30 |
| MinceR | thx | Nov 27 23:30 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: It's the screenshot preview you wanted to show me? | Nov 27 23:31 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: that you dented? | Nov 27 23:31 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: gn | Nov 27 23:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I am not anti DDG I have used it myself in the past. Just sharing additional information. | Nov 27 23:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] should I bother making a launchpad project for this audcatcher or should I just move on to my next project? | Nov 27 23:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Would you change your avatar to something. To many stock ones make it a little confusing. | Nov 27 23:49 | |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I forgot to install the fallback mode, but can do that next time in Mageia anyway for example: http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/11/26/mageia-2-alpha-1-kde-and-gnome-3-screenshots-preview/ | Nov 27 23:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mageia 2 alpha 1 KDE and GNOME 3 screenshots preview .::. Size~: 108.06 KB | Nov 27 23:50 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: :-) | Nov 27 23:51 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: then again task-gnome would have given me that I guess as well, but coudn't install that since some dependancy issue or whatever | Nov 27 23:53 |
| schestowitz | what's this process? The taskbar? | Nov 27 23:55 |
| schestowitz | as in gnome-panel subcomponent? | Nov 27 23:55 |
| sebsebseb | uh what you mean? | Nov 27 23:55 |
| schestowitz | gnome-task | Nov 27 23:55 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: oh your asking what task-gnome is? | Nov 27 23:55 |
| schestowitz | is it GTD? | Nov 27 23:55 |
| sebsebseb | it's a metapackage | Nov 27 23:55 |
| schestowitz | for? | Nov 27 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | meant to give me the whole of Gnome 3 | Nov 27 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | however | Nov 27 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | I got some error message instead when I tried to install, conflicting package | Nov 27 23:56 |
| schestowitz | is gnome 3 ok by you? | Nov 27 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I have been wanting to use a proper final Gnome 3 version for a long time now | Nov 27 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | an actsual install | Nov 27 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | not just from Live CD | Nov 27 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | ,but | Nov 27 23:57 |
| sebsebseb | had issues so far, with distros, and the NIvida card and uh | Nov 27 23:57 |
| sebsebseb | basicalely | Nov 27 23:57 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: anyway don't nkow what exactly, but it seems Mageia in developmetn, has quite a few Gnome issues at the moment, but more of that should be fixed for Magei 2 Alpha 2 I read so :D | Nov 27 23:57 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: ,but well early development version, so issues are expected | Nov 27 23:58 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: ,but I can use my headset properly in Mageia 2 Alpha 1 :) | Nov 27 23:59 |
| sebsebseb | won't need to use Windows for that anymore, it seems :D | Nov 27 23:59 |
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