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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] People may wish to consider ixquick http://ur1.ca/65l47 Only EU approved search engine.Nov 28 00:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] sleep tightNov 28 00:15
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schestowitzsebsebseb: isn't mageia kde4-based?Nov 28 00:19
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sebsebsebschestowitz: KDE as the like default desktopNov 28 00:22
sebsebsebwell there's a Gnome Live CD as wellNov 28 00:23
sebsebsebanyway the Gnome theme, that's going to be a port of Oxegen the KDE theme, or well they done that already really it seemsNov 28 00:23
schestowitzoxygen uses kwin/plasma stuff I thinkNov 28 00:24
schestowitzcan they make qt themes work under gtk ok?Nov 28 00:24
schestowitzor just fake it?Nov 28 00:24
schestowitzQtCurve comes close to doing the oppositeNov 28 00:24
sebsebsebschestowitz: This: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/?content=136216Nov 28 00:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] "It can be difficult to find a computer repair person who is versed in Linux" is the only factual point here http://ur1.ca/65m0tNov 28 00:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] All the other points really state user perspectives. At best they're debatable. I found Linux easier than OSX, for eg.Nov 28 00:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Yes, I know.Nov 28 00:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I have just looked at mint 12. To me it was just like a Gnome 2 Ubuntu.Nov 28 00:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Mysterious Connection Between Sirius and Human History | Secret Arcana - #xfiles http://goo.gl/db8WvNov 28 00:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Bluefish 2.2.0 released « Olivier's Blog http://goo.gl/BUKGoNov 28 00:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Pseudo-Occult Media: Little Illuminations: Who is the Lamb and who is the Knife? - #xfiles http://goo.gl/mNHMfNov 28 00:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bluefish 2.2.0 released « Olivier's Blog .::. Size~: 32.74 KBNov 28 00:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] "Try it served warm to release its exceptionally rich nutty flavor." http://ur1.ca/65mmh #bible !atheistNov 28 00:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels nowNov 28 00:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels nowNov 28 00:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] found my oreilly's #vi editor reference, the thing on the cover is still creepyNov 28 00:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Wonderful http://ur1.ca/5xq5dNov 28 01:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] 6502 asm is actually nice....Nov 28 02:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Sitting in Dubai International Airport waiting for flight to Geneva. First time here. Is shopping all that there is?Nov 28 02:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] ZOMG! @bkuhn is on #Facebook! http://ur1.ca/65q88Nov 28 02:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] ZOMG! so am I! http://ur1.ca/65q9eNov 28 02:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] Reserving pages for public figures is one thing but "To interact with Eben Moglen you need to sign up for #Facebook first" is quite another.Nov 28 03:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] Oh #Facebook, you chose the wrong guys to mess with. http://ur1.ca/65sd3Nov 28 03:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @openOV Wallonië is het Franse gewest van België. Misschien neem je best even wikipedia erbij? ;)Nov 28 03:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @openOV Juist, ja. Maar als dit erdoor komt is dat iets wat zal uitbesteed worden aan grote spelers à la LOD2 #typischNov 28 03:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @openOV c) opsplitsen? Heb al gedacht aan provincie per provincie of zelf stad per stad te doenNov 28 03:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @openOV a) De Lijn rijdt niet in Wallonië, daar rijdt de TEC. Geen #opendata b) hoe bedoel je?Nov 28 03:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @openOV :D super!Nov 28 03:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @jenssegers xbmc, logischNov 28 03:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] "In the future everyone will be famous enough for 15 minutes for Mark Zuckerberg to use them as eyeball bait."Nov 28 03:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] whew! !NaNoWriMo wordcount 30074 .... still a #nanoturtle but not quite so wretchedly behind.Nov 28 03:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @brashley46 “How to fight the Israel-Apartheid analogy in four easy steps – a guide for useful Hasbara idiots”: http://ur1.ca/65rzzNov 28 03:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] that's brilliant.Nov 28 03:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] :DNov 28 03:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Tired still, so I'll call it a night... maybe crack my new detective series dvds (Detective Lynley i think) so !tzaf !identiverseNov 28 03:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Our first-ever Automotive Linux Summit is taking place in Japan today: http://bit.ly/tedyLzNov 28 04:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] From comments section... "Stonehenge is great but it's a shame that it was built so close to the road".Nov 28 04:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] science definitely does, have you ever looked at quantum theory? O.oNov 28 04:45
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*prurigro gives voice to Diablo-D3Nov 28 05:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] I remember it being fun. There's also the awesome sonic doom mod, can't recall if it's free or not.Nov 28 05:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] looks like it is, so get it http://www.srb2.org/Nov 28 05:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] afraid I can't help, I'm on debian.Nov 28 05:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] current crunchbang torrent ratio: 3.37Nov 28 06:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] RT @x11r5 yeah, we get itNov 28 06:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Now out: #Linux #kernel 2.6.32.49 http://bit.ly/ua7hif 3.0.11 http://bit.ly/t2ITYa and 3.1.3 http://bit.ly/vy4lZg #mustupgradeNov 28 07:17
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/903585Nov 28 08:21
schestowitz"Nov 28 08:21
schestowitzWhat fedora-devel is discussing is the implementation of something like the Google App Market, but for Fedora. Software Center would have, besides the usually descriptions, user reviews and some kind of ratings system. While this sounds like a good idea, it will take an increase in server infrastructure, and, possibly take up more space than it should on the LiveCD's, pushing out other apps that really should be present when offering Nov 28 08:21
schestowitzan ISO for examination.Nov 28 08:21
schestowitzWhile CD's limits are decreasing in popularity, as is the desktops they are destined for, this is only one of the problems that could be resolved and worked around, but not before the mailing list goes through another one of its usual tirades as it mainly does with just a few disparaging remarks to keep the discussion amusing.Nov 28 08:21
schestowitzWhat is the phrase I'm looking for? Oh, the one where "The geeks will inherit the earth."? Yeah, but not before they argue a whole lot on how they're going to inherit it. Heh, after reading the entries over the last couple of days, that's what came to mind. This post was the first time I saw the discussion mentioned.Nov 28 08:21
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koolhead11hi allNov 28 08:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Occupy LA faces eviction deadline, follow events here http://identi.ca/url/61093758Nov 28 08:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Occupy Philly faces threat of eviction tonight http://identi.ca/url/61093784Nov 28 08:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] On the year anniversary of #Cablegate, a look at how #WikiLeaks has influenced journalism and the First Amendment https://eff.org/r.4H4Nov 28 08:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reposting with permission from the inspiring +Nagla Rizk - her post to the Berkman Mailing list explaining what is happ... http://b1t.it/2iuNov 28 08:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cablegate One Year Later: How WikiLeaks Has Influenced Foreign Policy, Journalism, and the First Amendment | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 39.29 KBNov 28 08:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Reposting with permission from the inspiring +Nagla Rizk -… .::. Size~: 67.9 KBNov 28 08:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Become a Maker! Buy a 3D printer. I have one of these. Lovin it. http://ur1.ca/663afNov 28 08:39
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schestowitzkoolhead11: how are you?Nov 28 08:39
koolhead11schestowitz: am awesome. how about you?Nov 28 08:40
koolhead11schestowitz: i will mail you later tonight about what i been writing offlate, a blogNov 28 08:40
koolhead11build open source community: india prospectiveNov 28 08:41
koolhead11*builidingNov 28 08:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Alan Moore talks V for Vendetta Guy Fawkes masks http://identi.ca/url/61094593Nov 28 08:42
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schestowitzfantastic !! :-)Nov 28 08:42
koolhead11schestowitz: i am really not happy about this all buzz going all around about Canonical loosing share and allNov 28 08:46
koolhead11wtf people see towards negative side of thingsNov 28 08:46
koolhead11they are trying new things, it takes time to get stableNov 28 08:47
schestowitzI think it's no big deal reallyNov 28 08:47
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koolhead11all the prophets are sparking row saying ubuntu going to grave and all shitNov 28 08:47
schestowitzI think FOSS has been in transition for a whileNov 28 08:47
koolhead11change is allways goodNov 28 08:47
schestowitzand Android rmerges as the best Linux we have outside serversNov 28 08:47
koolhead11ans should be accepted with open armsNov 28 08:47
koolhead11saw Mark blog about Ubuntu TVNov 28 08:48
koolhead11and i find it cool moveNov 28 08:48
koolhead11they are doing something differentlyNov 28 08:48
koolhead11:)Nov 28 08:48
koolhead11schestowitz: what do you thinkNov 28 08:52
koolhead11isnt it over hypedNov 28 08:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Lehne and the Polish Presidency March for #swpats in Europe http://ur1.ca/663o4Nov 28 08:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] 31 plasma new bug reports waiting for me this morning: 1 valid (4.8 beta1, fixed with commit), 1 wrong component, 26 dupes, 3 invalid. oi.Nov 28 09:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why the weakest link is Microsoft Windows (which therefore should not be used for storing sensitive information), where http://ur1.ca/6645tNov 28 09:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ Why the weakest link is Microsoft Windows (which therefore should not be used for storing sensitive information), where http://ur1. ...Nov 28 09:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] and great irony: gnome-settings-daemon was started for some reason causing firefox to crash, nsplugin support in qtwebkit to crash. *sigh*Nov 28 09:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Android/Linux Not a Security Concern, Windows Definitely and Demonstrably Remains #1 Target | Techrights .::. Size~: 91.73 KBNov 28 09:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Android #Linux Not a #Security Concern, #Windows Definitely and Demonstrably Remains #1 Target http://is.gd/dEdsVQ #fudNov 28 09:10
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MinceRgeekingsNov 28 09:12
koolhead11MinceR: hey siirNov 28 09:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The #Copyright Industry – A Century Of Deceit - http://bit.ly/rs8MBa it's got a bit of a track record here...Nov 28 09:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Eric #Whitacre's top 10 headphone albums - http://bit.ly/u0FJLL for Eric fansNov 28 09:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK secretly helping Canada push its oil sands project - http://bit.ly/vncRDU "greenest gov", Dave? I don't think #betrayalNov 28 09:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Inside http://ur1.ca/664mf #entryism #yahoo #nokia #gplNov 28 09:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Android scare: percentages do not tell the real tale http://is.gd/GQd42a #android #linuxNov 28 09:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #iodoom3 Source Code Project Underway http://ur1.ca/6654p #doomNov 28 09:39
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XFaCEschestowitz: http://www.forbes.com/sites/timothylee/2011/11/27/death-of-copyright-is-greatly-exaggerated/Nov 28 09:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Death of Copyright Is Greatly Exaggerated - Forbes .::. Size~: 89.31 KBNov 28 09:40
XFaCEDon't be turned off. It's an actual reasonable article that also praises Red HatNov 28 09:40
schestowitzthe url says it's timNov 28 09:41
schestowitzhe's coolNov 28 09:41
XFaCEI assume you aren't referring to our Tim as ajokeNov 28 09:41
schestowitztim leeNov 28 09:41
XFaCEI assume correctNov 28 09:42
schestowitzhaven't clicked yetNov 28 09:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] appMobi Open Sources HTML5 Technologies http://ur1.ca/6658u #html5Nov 28 09:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open source: democratising the internets http://is.gd/54Ibln #opensourceNov 28 09:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] In twitter jail. Cannot post as I have hit my daily allowance of tweets. How #fail is that policy?Nov 28 09:44
XFaCEschestowitz: Wow, this Tim Lee is very progressive. How the hell did he manage to get anywhere near Forbes? ;)Nov 28 09:48
schestowitz"Yes, a fairly strong community here in Australia, but a political "leadership' which is defacto U.S." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/907336Nov 28 09:48
XFaCE*at least *fairly* progressiveNov 28 09:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New xkcd items and Christmas delivery - http://bit.ly/tGVm6M solve 2 probs at once: supporting #xkcd and buying prezziesNov 28 09:49
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schestowitzXFaCE: he has his blog and a place at Arse Technicaca as wellNov 28 09:49
MinceRlolNov 28 09:49
schestowitzhe was a Google intern at one stageNov 28 09:49
MinceRTechnicacaNov 28 09:49
schestowitzDrPizza_ writes thereNov 28 09:49
XFaCEHe who never speaks...Nov 28 09:50
schestowitza whole diarrhoea of stuffNov 28 09:50
schestowitzXFaCE: some people are only here to watchNov 28 09:50
XFaCEAnd pick up links?Nov 28 09:50
schestowitzjono wants to keep an eye on the peanut galleryNov 28 09:50
schestowitzXFaCE: noNov 28 09:51
XFaCEI seem to recall Pizza and arguing.Nov 28 09:51
schestowitzmaybe they  want a zeitgeist of what another side is on aboutNov 28 09:51
XFaCEAnd e-screamingNov 28 09:51
schestowitzand cursingNov 28 09:51
XFaCElolNov 28 09:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Outlook fair for amateurs as Met Office releases data - http://tgr.ph/rLzWJG new Open Data Institute coming to London (v @Nigel_Shadbolt)Nov 28 09:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] COSI Open Government http://ur1.ca/665kc #cosi #egovt #politics #it #europe #romania #computer #hardware #softwareNov 28 09:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] A huge shout out to all our Volunteers! You rock! If you're considering volunteering for #LCA2012, we have more info http://t.co/vpf8TQ2aNov 28 09:52
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: COSI 'Open' Government .::. Size~: 34.66 KBNov 28 09:52
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/bortzmeyer/status/139740405355913216Nov 28 09:52
TechrightsBot-tr@bortzmeyer: Vous aimez le pipeautage du Ministère sur le vote électronique ? "L'algorithme est sûr, il est protégé par un brevet international" #JRESNov 28 09:52
schestowitzhttps://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/%21/petition/pursue-software-patent-abolition/fHkD8wYM?utm_source=wh.gov&utm_medium=shorturl&utm_campaign=shorturlNov 28 09:56
schestowitzObama listens LOL LOL!Nov 28 09:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Pursue Software Patent Abolition. | The White House .::. Size~: 62.28 KBNov 28 09:56
schestowitzWhite House... what a sham of a siteNov 28 09:56
XFaCESpeaking of shamsNov 28 09:56
XFaCE"Florian Müller (born January 21, 1970 in Augsburg, Germany) is a lobbyist, entrepreneur, consultant, and the *founder of the NoSoftwarePatents campaign.*"Nov 28 09:57
XFaCELol what?Nov 28 09:57
MinceR"The Mac people are streets ahead" -- what is this guy smoking?Nov 28 09:57
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/Vrijschrift/status/139824702595145728Nov 28 09:57
TechrightsBot-tr@Vrijschrift: EU patent discussions as secret as #ACTA http://t.co/igDl2vV0 #EUpatent (at the bottom)Nov 28 09:57
schestowitzSOBsNov 28 09:57
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XFaCEschestowitz: What's this "NoSoftwarePatents" campaign?Nov 28 09:58
schestowitzhe was paid by red hatNov 28 09:58
schestowitzlobbyistNov 28 09:58
schestowitznow MSFT sponsors himNov 28 09:58
XFaCEHmm, reminds me of another "lawyer"Nov 28 09:59
XFaCE!google torrentfreak lawyer changes sidesNov 28 09:59
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - IP Attorney Changes Sides | Indienation.fm | http://indienation.fm/2011/11/27/copyright-attorney-changes-sides/Nov 28 09:59
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - BitTorrent Defense Lawyer Joins Copyright Trolls | TorrentFreak | http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-defense-lawyer-joins-copyright-trolls-111126/Nov 28 09:59
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Pirate Bay Nemesis Has Name Changed By Pranksters | TorrentFreak | http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-nemesis-has-name-changed-by-pranksters-090607/Nov 28 09:59
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Mike Meier, well-known as a defense attorney for BitTorrent users ... | http://www.reddit.com/r/cyberlaws/comments/mqkbm/mike_meier_wellknown_as_a_defense_attorney_for/Nov 28 09:59
XFaCEGotta love those pliable law people.Nov 28 10:00
XFaCEschestowitz: Hey, we should raise our own fund to buy Florian. That would be great!Nov 28 10:00
XFaCEHe can post on IRC and be "one of the guys"Nov 28 10:01
XFaCERight after he finishes wiping off the slimeNov 28 10:01
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/140401050661289985Nov 28 10:01
TechrightsBot-tr@IAM_magazine: @FOSSpatents If I were an NPE like IPCom I would love the German system for the injunctions it would give me that I could not get in the US.Nov 28 10:01
schestowitzFlorian and his new clients... the patent lawyers :-0)Nov 28 10:02
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/140364546471755776Nov 28 10:02
TechrightsBot-tr@IAM_magazine: NPE to injunct HTC in Germany. Under current proposals, in a few years time it could be doing the same across Europe. http://t.co/lDgEfqMTNov 28 10:02
TechrightsBot-tr@: Nov 28 10:02
schestowitztilting coverage... for a feeNov 28 10:02
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/zoobab/statuses/140444655669084161Nov 28 10:03
TechrightsBot-tr@zoobab: @IAM_magazine Unipat is scary.Nov 28 10:03
schestowitzzoobab: why bother?Nov 28 10:03
XFaCERubber Band MuellerNov 28 10:03
schestowitzThey spit at us (IAM)Nov 28 10:03
schestowitzThat's insulting to rubber bands :-Nov 28 10:03
XFaCEHmm... silly putty?Nov 28 10:03
XFaCEDouble-wammy right there.Nov 28 10:04
XFaCEI wish Florian would do something to piss off "Ebaum's World"Nov 28 10:05
MinceRwhy not Anonymous?Nov 28 10:05
XFaCESo that he could be torn apart like HBGary's chairNov 28 10:05
XFaCERule 1 and 2Nov 28 10:05
schestowitzhttp://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Linux-Mint-12-Lisa-officially-released-1384305.htmlNov 28 10:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Mint 12 "Lisa" officially released - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 44.86 KBNov 28 10:06
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XFaCEschestowitz: B-b-b-b-b-bloat!Nov 28 10:06
XFaCEAnd monoNov 28 10:07
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/85846150Nov 28 10:07
TechrightsBot-tr@Osama Khalid (osamak)'s status on Sunday, 27-Nov-11 19:16:09 UTC - Identi.ca: RT @fsf New issue of the Bulletin is in the mail and on the way to !FSF supporters. Let us know here when yours arrives! !gnu !dbdNov 28 10:07
XFaCEschestowitz: And...Nov 28 10:07
schestowitzhehe.. monoNov 28 10:07
schestowitzit's so deadNov 28 10:07
schestowitzin the newsNov 28 10:07
schestowitzlike NovellNov 28 10:07
schestowitzbut now we need to target software patents moreNov 28 10:08
XFaCEAnd SOPANov 28 10:08
schestowitzand do to them what we helped do to Novell and MonoNov 28 10:08
schestowitzSOPA is a bigger target and hard to defeatNov 28 10:08
XFaCEschestowitz: Kind of a hollow victory is some ways though no?Nov 28 10:08
schestowitzswpats in Europe - that's achieveableNov 28 10:08
schestowitzand in NZNov 28 10:08
schestowitzXFaCE: what is?Nov 28 10:09
schestowitzNovell?Nov 28 10:09
XFaCEschestowitz: yeahNov 28 10:09
schestowitzNo, the goal was to abolish it and ensure the MS-taxed Linux does not gain tractionNov 28 10:09
schestowitzand we succeededNov 28 10:09
schestowitzwhat other outcome would you expect?Nov 28 10:09
XFaCEschestowitz: I'm not really sureNov 28 10:09
schestowitzWe know from the start the deal we irrevocableNov 28 10:09
schestowitzThat's why I joined the Boycott Novell pushNov 28 10:09
schestowitzAndreas said the complaints were in vainNov 28 10:10
XFaCEI suppose it prevents Desktop GNU/Linux patent deals in a wayNov 28 10:10
schestowitzSo there was just one thing left to doNov 28 10:10
XFaCEbut the Android is still a problemNov 28 10:10
schestowitzit doesNov 28 10:10
schestowitznone since 2007Nov 28 10:10
schestowitzand all the companies diedNov 28 10:10
XFaCEI guess the damage has been done with regards to Android dealsNov 28 10:10
schestowitzlinsoire, xandros (defunct pretty much), turbolinux, NovellNov 28 10:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz appMobi Open Sources HTML5 Technologies http://ur1.ca/6658u #html5Nov 28 10:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Open source: democratising the internets http://is.gd/54Ibln #opensourceNov 28 10:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz #Microsoft Inside http://ur1.ca/664mf #entryism #yahoo #nokia #gplNov 28 10:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @glynmoody The #Copyright Industry – A Century Of Deceit - http://bit.ly/rs8MBa it's got a bit of a track record here...Nov 28 10:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: appMobi Open Sources HTML5 Technologies | Dr Dobb's .::. Size~: 65.93 KBNov 28 10:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open source: democratising the internets - ABC Canberra - Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) .::. Size~: 64.99 KBNov 28 10:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Inside | Techrights .::. Size~: 90.28 KBNov 28 10:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Copyright Industry – A Century Of Deceit  | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 35.77 KBNov 28 10:10
XFaCEThose were certainly encourage by the Novell deal.  I can't see why they wouldn't beNov 28 10:11
schestowitzAndroid is another matter and one that techrights covers closely nowNov 28 10:11
schestowitzGtoklaw does too, full timeNov 28 10:11
schestowitzXFaCE: yes, definitelyNov 28 10:11
schestowitzsince the samsung andf LG dealsNov 28 10:11
schestowitzThese are followup dealsNov 28 10:11
schestowitzTomTom tooNov 28 10:11
schestowitzFAT in AndroidNov 28 10:11
XFaCEschestowitz: If Novell had repealed the deal, how owuld you have reacted?Nov 28 10:12
schestowitzit's all part of the same routine run by the same man (Horacio G)Nov 28 10:12
schestowitzOn behalf of mafia don BallmerNov 28 10:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz #Android #Linux Not a #Security Concern, #Windows Definitely and Demonstrably Remains #1 Target http://is.gd/dEdsVQ #fudNov 28 10:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Android/Linux Not a Security Concern, Windows Definitely and Demonstrably Remains #1 Target | Techrights .::. Size~: 91.78 KBNov 28 10:12
schestowitzXFaCE: We tried thatNov 28 10:12
schestowitzIn the mailing listsNov 28 10:12
schestowitzbefore Boycott NovellNov 28 10:12
schestowitzI can probably find it, hang onNov 28 10:13
schestowitzremember I was part of the SUSE communityNov 28 10:13
schestowitzhttp://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2006-11/msg00069.htmlNov 28 10:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Re: [opensuse] So Long openSuSe .::. Size~: 11.44 KBNov 28 10:14
XFaCEBTW, got a jokeNov 28 10:14
schestowitz"Nov 28 10:15
schestowitz> On Friday 03 November 2006 04:08, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote:Nov 28 10:15
schestowitz>> I wouldn't call that selling the users down the river. Independent ofNov 28 10:15
schestowitz>> the fate of Novell the deal will stop worries about MS killing the openNov 28 10:15
schestowitz>> source movement with patents.Nov 28 10:15
schestowitz>Nov 28 10:15
schestowitz> Yes, though it's unclear from the press release whether the patent ceasefireNov 28 10:15
schestowitz> is in perpetuity, or merely for the duration of the Novell agreement (up toNov 28 10:15
schestowitz> 2012, IIRC). I got the impression it was the latter, so there is theNov 28 10:15
schestowitz> difficulty that Microsoft could argue in any future legal assault that one ofNov 28 10:15
schestowitz> the leading distro makers explicitly accepted there were patent issues inNov 28 10:15
schestowitz> Linux. That's not so good.Nov 28 10:15
schestowitzThis one is irrevocable - for ever,Nov 28 10:15
schestowitzAndreas Nov 28 10:15
schestowitz"Nov 28 10:15
schestowitzHow trueNov 28 10:15
schestowitzsaid in 2006Nov 28 10:15
schestowitzread that one againNov 28 10:15
schestowitzand think how it was a correct speculationNov 28 10:15
schestowitzAndroid attacks and othersNov 28 10:16
XFaCEOh, most deinitely it wasNov 28 10:16
XFaCEI don't deny that allNov 28 10:16
XFaCE*at allNov 28 10:16
XFaCEschestowitz: This is what's going on with MichaelSnit everytime you post a new article. http://youtu.be/6-eARqimRRY?hd=1 ;)Nov 28 10:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] This is the message that in part gave birth to Botcott Novell. I was in the SUSE community at the time. http://is.gd/NMt0FA #novell #suseNov 28 10:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Re: [opensuse] So Long openSuSe .::. Size~: 11.44 KBNov 28 10:17
XFaCE"To the trollcave!"Nov 28 10:19
MinceR:)Nov 28 10:19
*Brendan_T has a kangaroo in his yardNov 28 10:20
*iophk (~unknown@unaffiliated/iophk) has joined #techrightsNov 28 10:20
XFaCEMinceR: "He has no other purpose in life other than to wait for that signal"Nov 28 10:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Secret Whitehall statistics to be published for the first time - http://bit.ly/uATyIK more on uk's #opendata moves (v @glynwintle)Nov 28 10:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Secret Whitehall statistics to be published for the first time | News | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 130.39 KBNov 28 10:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mark Shuttleworth: The Whole Patent System Is A Sham http://ur1.ca/666ll #swpatsNov 28 10:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mark Shuttleworth: The Whole Patent System Is A Sham | Muktware .::. Size~: 37 KBNov 28 10:25
XFaCEWell Mark, at least on that front, we can agree.Nov 28 10:27
MinceRyeah, a rare moment of clarityNov 28 10:27
MinceRfrom himNov 28 10:27
XFaCEHe deserves 1 IRC inviteNov 28 10:27
MinceRnah, he has an official to handle IRCNov 28 10:28
MinceRjono ;)Nov 28 10:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] noone's "fault"; we drink from a firehose and we don't have enough triagers. meanwhile, enough reporters behave poorly to discourage effortNov 28 10:29
XFaCEHe speaks for the Bor... err, I mean Mark?Nov 28 10:29
MinceRwell, he's the community manager or whateverNov 28 10:29
XFaCEAnd yet, his priorties include signing into TechRights?Nov 28 10:30
XFaCENot to diss TR, but doesn't he have something better to do?Nov 28 10:30
XFaCEMinceR: Or maybe TR is proving its importance? :)Nov 28 10:31
MinceRhe has already decided he has better things to do than keeping in touch with the communityNov 28 10:35
MinceRafter posting his report which said that one of the complaints was that they don't listen to anyone :>Nov 28 10:35
schestowitz\:)Nov 28 10:36
MinceRalso, mark calls us (the community) the "peanut gallery"Nov 28 10:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Randi Show - Cold Fusion and Carl Sagan http://ur1.ca/666yc #scamNov 28 10:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Randi Show - Cold Fusion and Carl Sagan       - YouTube .::. Size~: 97.9 KBNov 28 10:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Noul film de lung-metraj despre Regina Maria a României http://ur1.ca/6670v #romania #monarchy #europe #royal #queenNov 28 10:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Noul film de lung-metraj despre Regina Maria a României «  Romania. Altfel .::. Size~: 15.63 KBNov 28 10:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] Help us promote #LCA2012 at your workplace or community group with this great poster! http://t.co/IPSt44LBNov 28 10:44
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Brendan_Tpeanut gallery?Nov 28 10:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] MÂHNIREA REGELUI MIHAI de AURORA MARTIN http://ur1.ca/6677o #romania #monarchy #europe #royal #kingNov 28 10:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MÂHNIREA REGELUI MIHAI de AURORA MARTIN  | Stelian Tănase .::. Size~: 32.15 KBNov 28 10:45
schestowitzXFaCE: watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flUrvJPLNCI&feature=digest_monNov 28 10:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sadie Crabtree on Winning Hearts And Minds for Skepticism - at TAM Las Vegas 2011       - YouTube .::. Size~: 101.03 KBNov 28 10:48
schestowitzIt's new and relevant to techrightsNov 28 10:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 28/11/2011: iodoom3, Android Scare http://ur1.ca/667ev #techrightsNov 28 10:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 28/11/2011: iodoom3, Android Scare | Techrights .::. Size~: 96.1 KBNov 28 10:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Mark #Shuttleworth: The Whole Patent System Is A Sham http://ur1.ca/666ll #patent #ip #copyright #businessNov 28 10:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mark Shuttleworth: The Whole Patent System Is A Sham | Muktware .::. Size~: 37 KBNov 28 10:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "Die Europäische Union vor der Entscheidung zwischen transnationaler Demokratie und postdemokratischem Exekutivfödera... http://b1t.it/2l7Nov 28 11:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - "Die Europäische Union vor der Entscheidung zwischen… .::. Size~: 43.9 KBNov 28 11:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @reiter »Wir machen keine Politik für das Internet, sondern für eine durch das Internet veränderte Gesellschaft.« #Piratenpartei http ...Nov 28 11:07
Brendan_Twe should ban the word revolutionaryNov 28 11:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Oh, and dear Google, when do we get the page transfer/multi-admin features?Nov 28 11:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Are you experimenting with below-zero attention?Nov 28 11:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: It's EU robotics week! - check out some cool #robots at an event near you! http://t.co/u http://p.ost.im/p/eAuwVENov 28 11:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Robots performing brain surgery with EU research breakthru. Cd help millions. http://t.c http://p.ost.im/p/eAmbgFNov 28 11:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Thanks @mmasnick http://t.co/6Lk3OWok #copyright http://p.ost.im/p/eAC9MVNov 28 11:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Web Search By The People, For The People: YaCy 1.0 - http://bit.ly/v8b1OI peer-to-peer Free Software search engineNov 28 11:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Web Search By The People, For The People: YaCy 1.0 .::. Size~: 8.5 KBNov 28 11:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] In #India, 40% of search and 67% of e-commerce is #mobile, says Google - http://tnw.co/v8RWA4 it's the futureNov 28 11:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK Gets Ball Rolling On Digital Copyright Exchange - http://bit.ly/rNsTkM interesting, but I'm sceptical it will ever happenNov 28 11:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google: 40% of Searches in India from Mobiles .::. Size~: 106.42 KBNov 28 11:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: UK Gets Ball Rolling On Digital Copyright Exchange                                                       |  paidContent .::. Size~: 43.41 KBNov 28 11:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Peer-to-peer search engine joins universe of #distributed systems: YaCy 1.0 http://bit.ly/v8b1OI !fsfeNov 28 11:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Opensource edible landscapes: The Todmorden story - http://bit.ly/rYqwq3 hopeful stuffNov 28 11:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Panasonic To Start Selling #Android Phones In Europe (And Possibly The US) - http://tcrn.ch/vGdclo and another oneNov 28 11:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Web Search By The People, For The People: YaCy 1.0 .::. Size~: 8.5 KBNov 28 11:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Opensource edible landscapes: The Todmorden story – confused of calcutta .::. Size~: 55.17 KBNov 28 11:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Panasonic To Start Selling Android Phones In Europe (And Possibly The US) | TechCrunch .::. Size~: 58.12 KBNov 28 11:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Israel further denies Palestinians justice by simply not allowing them to travel to court. http://ur1.ca/66987 !PalestineNov 28 11:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Palestinian no-shows denied justice in Israeli courts - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News .::. Size~: 168.6 KBNov 28 11:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] So, !Identica has turned !XMPP off, @evan ... Why? http://b1t.it/2njNov 28 11:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: silner (silner)'s status on Monday, 28-Nov-11 11:20:05 UTC - Parlementum .::. Size~: 10.08 KBNov 28 11:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Patent Scandal of Laws Made Behind Closed Doors - http://bit.ly/sCxsKW #swpats on their way... #eu #epo #actaNov 28 11:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Patent Scandal of Laws Made Behind Closed Doors - Open Enterprise .::. Size~: 78.48 KBNov 28 11:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Synote wins ICT Initiative of the Year in prestigious THE Awards. http://ur1.ca/669ha !FLOSSNov 28 11:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ECS - Synote wins ICT Initiative of the Year in prestigious THE Awards .::. Size~: 10.11 KBNov 28 11:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Outgoing acting Prime Minister says Libya leaders supported by "money, arms, PR" http://ur1.ca/669lpNov 28 12:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Libya leaders supported by money, arms, PR: ex-premier | Reuters .::. Size~: 95.27 KBNov 28 12:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] /reply #167425 That seems like a better option, actually thanks @Parlementum - Identica does support it - at least in t http://ur1.ca/669nmNov 28 12:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Why the Sandinistas won so overwhelmingly. http://ur1.ca/669nsNov 28 12:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @satipera Outgoing acting Prime Minister says Libya leaders supported by "money, arms, PR" http://ur1.ca/669lpNov 28 12:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: silner (silner)'s status on Monday, 28-Nov-11 12:00:07 UTC - Parlementum .::. Size~: 10.75 KBNov 28 12:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Yahoo! Groups .::. Size~: 21.21 KBNov 28 12:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Libya leaders supported by money, arms, PR: ex-premier | Reuters .::. Size~: 95.27 KBNov 28 12:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Science education prize goes to Open Source Physics. http://ur1.ca/669q7 !FLOSSNov 28 12:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Like a BOSS. http://hackertyper.com/ ROTFLNov 28 12:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Science education prize goes to Open Source Physics .::. Size~: 32.33 KBNov 28 12:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Hacker Typer .::. Size~: 0.93 KBNov 28 12:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] U.S. defeated in bid on cluster bomb accord. http://ur1.ca/669r8Nov 28 12:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #tzag Identizens.Nov 28 12:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: U.S. defeated in bid on cluster bomb accord | Reuters .::. Size~: 97.96 KBNov 28 12:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @glynmoody Panasonic To Start Selling #Android Phones In Europe (And Possibly The US) - http://tcrn.ch/vGdclo and another oneNov 28 12:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] British employment law: the sack race. http://ur1.ca/669uzNov 28 12:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Panasonic To Start Selling Android Phones In Europe (And Possibly The US) | TechCrunch .::. Size~: 58.13 KBNov 28 12:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Employment law: the sack race | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 249.6 KBNov 28 12:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Mirroring, does seem to working for me, @whistlewright - I'll have to keep checking but it all seems to be going fine s http://ur1.ca/669voNov 28 12:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Race variation in jail sentences, study suggests. http://ur1.ca/669w1.Nov 28 12:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Debate on EU unitary patent will go secret http://ur1.ca/60cxl (@aprilorg, via @glynmoody) Why secret unless there's sth to hide? !fsfeNov 28 12:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: silner (silner)'s status on Monday, 28-Nov-11 12:05:50 UTC - Parlementum .::. Size~: 11.17 KBNov 28 12:09
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Unitary Patent: the debate will go on in secret | April .::. Size~: 16.85 KBNov 28 12:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] RT @karsten Peer-to-peer search engine joins universe of #distributed systems: YaCy 1.0 http://bit.ly/v8b1OI !fsfeNov 28 12:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Printrbot has designs on making 3D printing simple. http://ur1.ca/669yk #opensourceNov 28 12:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] yeah, it's defintely the onestop that attracts me @whistlewright - !irssi is better for irc and !Identicurse is better http://ur1.ca/669z1Nov 28 12:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Web Search By The People, For The People: YaCy 1.0 .::. Size~: 8.5 KBNov 28 12:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Printrbot has designs on making 3D printing simple .::. Size~: 44.46 KBNov 28 12:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: silner (silner)'s status on Monday, 28-Nov-11 12:09:51 UTC - Parlementum .::. Size~: 11.04 KBNov 28 12:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] London Olympics in crisis as India threatens boycott. http://ur1.ca/669zd.Nov 28 12:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] yeah, that's about as far as I got too @whistlewrightNov 28 12:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Some more background on #YaCy, the distributed Free Softwaer search engine: http://ur1.ca/66a07Nov 28 12:12
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Free, distributed search with YaCy 1.0 « Karsten on Free Software .::. Size~: 55.69 KBNov 28 12:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] The official Ubuntu book - a review http://ur1.ca/66a2l #ubuntu #linux #gnu #bookNov 28 12:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @fsfe RT @karsten Peer-to-peer search engine joins universe of #distributed systems: YaCy 1.0 http://bit.ly/v8b1OI !fsfeNov 28 12:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Websuche von Menschen für Menschen: YaCy 1.0 http://ur1.ca/66a8zNov 28 12:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Web Search By The People, For The People: YaCy 1.0 .::. Size~: 8.5 KBNov 28 12:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Websuche von Menschen für Menschen: YaCy 1.0 .::. Size~: 9.16 KBNov 28 12:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @karsten Some more background on #YaCy, the distributed Free Softwaer search engine: http://ur1.ca/66a07Nov 28 12:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Free, distributed search with YaCy 1.0 « Karsten on Free Software .::. Size~: 55.71 KBNov 28 12:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] I get the GPL example. Wondering why identi.ca does it here though.Nov 28 12:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Fedora 16 would be more fun if packagekitd would not periodically hog gigabytes of RAM & major CPU cycles.Nov 28 12:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Facebook faces European data audit. http://ur1.ca/66alaNov 28 12:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Facebook faces European data audit - The Inquirer .::. Size~: 60.5 KBNov 28 12:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] PressTV - 'Netanyahu, all Israeli premiers, liars' - #israel #zionists http://ur1.ca/66amvNov 28 12:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Best Buy to leave Britain. http://ur1.ca/66areNov 28 12:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] this -> http://xkcd.com/983/ #web #comicNov 28 12:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Nov. 28, 1660: Hey, Guys, Let’s Found Britain’s Foremost Scientific Academy - http://bit.ly/tGwhpz so what went wrong?Nov 28 12:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Best Buy UK starts closing down sale - The Inquirer .::. Size~: 64.18 KBNov 28 12:37
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nov. 28, 1660: Hey, Guys, Let’s Found Britain’s Foremost Scientific Academy  | This Day In Tech | Wired.com .::. Size~: 55.91 KBNov 28 12:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] It amazes scenes like this » http://ur1.ca/66aw7 « get so little coverage. You have to draw the conclusion we just ar http://ur1.ca/66awiNov 28 12:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Concerns about #Taser use in police force under scrutiny over recent death - http://bit.ly/u0TNDN getting worseNov 28 12:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] FMI prepara pacotão de eur600 mil milhões para Itália - Expresso.pt - #imf #italy #eu #collapse - estamos quase lá! http://goo.gl/u1sNuNov 28 12:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] turned on by filesystems? Porn folder http://ur1.ca/66b06 #fun #xkcdNov 28 12:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Concerns about Taser use in police force under scrutiny over recent death : TBIJ .::. Size~: 32.37 KBNov 28 12:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] As the only person working for StatusNet Inc., I barely have the bandwidth to keep the Web site running. Like I said before.Nov 28 12:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Land, water scarcity threaten food security: U.N. http://ur1.ca/66b2wNov 28 12:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "80-letniemu mieszkańcowi Ustronia, który w niedzielę lądował awaryjnie awionetką na świerku w małopolskiej Wielmoży" - go DS Ustronie!Nov 28 12:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Land, water scarcity threaten food security: U.N. | Reuters .::. Size~: 97.91 KBNov 28 12:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Não é adorável este pseudo-capitalismo socialista? http://goo.gl/u1sNuNov 28 12:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @karsten Some more background on #YaCy, the distributed Free Softwaer search engine: http://ur1.ca/66a07Nov 28 12:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @karsten Peer-to-peer search engine joins universe of #distributed systems: YaCy 1.0 http://bit.ly/v8b1OI !fsfeNov 28 12:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FMI prepara pacotão de eur600 mil milhões para Itália - Expresso.pt .::. Size~: 249.98 KBNov 28 12:47
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iophkhttp://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Study-Patent-trolls-cost-a-half-a-trillion-dollars-in-lost-wealth-1379223.htmlNov 28 12:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #MyPaint reaches 1.0.0 with improved user interface - The H Open Source - #flosstools http://goo.gl/bu1Li http://goo.gl/abHP8Nov 28 12:50
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iophkhttp://www.networkworld.com/community/node/79179Nov 28 12:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Source Fact and Fiction: Barnes & Noble Blows The Lid Off Microsoft's Android Patent Squeeze .::. Size~: 88.64 KBNov 28 12:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] so true ♻ @mahemoff: I'm an open source software person. -- sent from my iPhoneNov 28 12:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @parlementum NYT:"To make buying T-Mobile USA palatable to regulators, AT&T has to placate the antitrust forces, ana http://ur1.ca/66bdbNov 28 12:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Kaotic Nerd News: "Die Oma und der Apfel – ein Märchen" http://ur1.ca/66bcv #funNov 28 12:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: silner (silner)'s status on Monday, 28-Nov-11 12:53:52 UTC - Parlementum .::. Size~: 10.64 KBNov 28 12:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: » Blog Archive   » Die Oma und der Apfel – ein Märchen .::. Size~: 16.91 KBNov 28 12:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @rysiek: so true ♻ @mahemoff: I'm an open source software person.-- sent from my iPhoneNov 28 12:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] soon more !freesoftware from the European Space Agency #esa? http://ur1.ca/600qkNov 28 12:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Can Ushahidi Rely on Crowdsourced Verifications? http://ur1.ca/66bm7Nov 28 13:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] http://ur1.ca/66btn reminds me again about “Gno” and “Gyes” campaigns – About positive !freesoftware campaigning http://ur1.ca/0degb !gnuNov 28 13:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Shared a post "gelesen, gelacht, geklaut, gepostet ;-) ÜBERSETZUNG FÜR MÄNNER ● SCHÖN - Dieses Wort wird von Fr... http://b1t.it/2pzNov 28 13:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - gelesen, gelacht, geklaut, gepostet ;-) ÜBERSETZUNG FÜR… .::. Size~: 46.89 KBNov 28 13:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @eightyeight: !freesoftware #federated search engine: http://yacy.net /cc @nj3ma @kelzOKO @fredmanglis @dennismungaiNov 28 13:20
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MinceRwow, someone is still aware of yacy? :>Nov 28 13:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] DJ just said what I was thinking. Blue Raincoat by Leonard Cohen is remarkably similar to Leo Sayers "When I need you" or vice verce #musicNov 28 13:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] DJ just said what I was thinking. Blue Raincoat by Leonard Cohen is remarkably similar to Leo Sayers "When I need you" or vice verse #musicNov 28 13:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] My bank sent me a chequebook a few days a go, I had forgotten what they looked like.Nov 28 13:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @reiter German federal maritime agency (BSH) uses !FreeSoftware to serve their maps. Saves time with MXD2map and Mapserver: http://is ...Nov 28 13:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Brutal? Perhaps. Effective? Oh yes. "while [ 1 ]; do killall packagekitd; sleep 5s; done"Nov 28 13:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] What I thought was funny was the chequebook was part of an account upgrade. I wonder if there is a next upgrade that involves seashells?Nov 28 13:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] IT corps spotting a lack of coders for the future is a problem http://goo.gl/IdtC6 - look at the code & we jail you #DRM #proprietaryNov 28 13:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @jrobertson: I can't read all the replies I received about my RaspberryPi tweet but I'm pretty sure it hit a raw nerve.Nov 28 13:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open source gift guide and giveaway: Our answer to Cyber Monday | http://red.ht/tjkJFc #adafruitNov 28 14:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @grdryn: Can't adjust screen brightness with Fn keys on !fedora 16? Try yum reinstall bash - seriously, seems to work!Nov 28 14:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] "If you haven't got anything nice to say then don't say anything" ... hence my silenceNov 28 14:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Let The Bible Go Free! - http://bit.ly/toVKk5 and not only... #copyrightNov 28 14:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] My many beefs with js heavy new identi.ca : Does not support Firefox 3.0Nov 28 14:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] My many beefs with js heavy new identi.ca : Why the fuck is the log in button hidden in css?Nov 28 14:42
prurigrojust checked analytics for a school website I volunteer to do and the oldest version of ie is version 7, used by 1% of parents-- the future is looking good!Nov 28 14:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] future prediction: #LevesonInquiry reports lessons learned despite the evidence, no harm was done - media rejoice #whitewashNov 28 14:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] I hate your StatusNet client @evan. Will code mine. Thank you. #Mymanybeefswithjs heavynewidenticaNov 28 14:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] all hail the wondrous toffs on the #PCC for doing a standup job in falling asleep at the regulatory wheelNov 28 14:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Why Do People Keep Using Windows? http://ur1.ca/66fgsNov 28 14:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Why,oh why, do you need tonne upon tonne of javascript and css to present mostly textual data #MymanybeefswithjsheavynewidenticaNov 28 14:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux News: Community: Why Do People Keep Using Windows? .::. Size~: 65.67 KBNov 28 14:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] G+ still doesn't make the grade. Won't support Firefox <= 3Nov 28 14:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] It's like the whole world wide web has been gobbled up by the Monster.jsNov 28 14:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @nj3ma: Why,oh why, do you need tonne upon tonne of javascript and css to present mostly textual data #MymanybeefswithjsheavynewidenticaNov 28 14:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @noyesk: Why Do People Keep Using Windows? http://ur1.ca/66fgsNov 28 14:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] K. Will give it a try.Nov 28 14:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] There is a wheel?Nov 28 14:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Has anyone checked out New Identica on Opera Mini?Nov 28 14:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] >20% of KDE content uploaded to apps-kde.org seem to be Plasma addons. that's pretty cool. i'd like to take it to the next level, though ;)Nov 28 14:55
schestowitzprurigro: what about Linux?Nov 28 14:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I guess, more than anything else, "Opera Mini, India's Second Popular Web Browser" » http://ur1.ca/66fxo « reflects j http://ur1.ca/66fxrNov 28 14:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I guess, more than anything else, "Opera Mini, India's Second Popular Web Browser" » http://ur1.ca/66fxo « reflects j…Nov 28 14:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Shared a post "Respekt Sascha Pallenberg in seinem Blog "Hardy hat alles richtig gemacht und genau aus diesem Grund hab... http://b1t.it/2rINov 28 14:59
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schestowitzWell, the rowing competition started about a week ago. I put in a baseline time of 15.0 and was working very hard on the weights since then (2 hours yesterday) -- to the point where this morning I could not go fast due to fatigue. The plan is, after some rest and following many hard sessions, I should hopefully be able to knock the initial time down to the British record. I need to avoid bad foods as well.Nov 28 15:02
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prurigroschestowitz: doesn't even register sadly, the most popular setups are xp, osx, ipad and iphone- I wasn't about to expect  miracle on that note :)Nov 28 15:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] To all the folks complaining about donating to wikipedia. fuck you ign'ant motherfuckers!Nov 28 15:05
prurigroschestowitz: no phelps diet? :)Nov 28 15:06
admfubar_hi all... found this little gem this morning http://www.arcamax.com/arcticcircle/s-988989Nov 28 15:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Instead of giving pointless bibles to schools, the government should reform copyright so they're not needed: http://wmk.me/vUbzx0Nov 28 15:07
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admfubar_laters allNov 28 15:08
prurigroadmfubar: lol, yea, I don't get why changing your privacy settings means undoing them allNov 28 15:08
prurigrociaoNov 28 15:08
schestowitzprurigro: diets named after some charlatan? No thanks, no placebos for me :-)Nov 28 15:08
schestowitz!google atkins bankruptcyNov 28 15:08
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Atkins files for bankruptcy - Business - Retail - Food Inc. - msnbc.com | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8779500/ns/business-retail/t/atkins-nutritionals-files-bankruptcy/Nov 28 15:08
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Atkins Goes Bankrupt, to Focus on Bars and Shakes | Fox News | http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,164425,00.htmlNov 28 15:08
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Atkins Nutritionals Files for Bankruptcy : NPR | http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php%3FstoryId%3D4780891Nov 28 15:08
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Atkins Nutritionals Inc. goes bankrupt - Wikinews, the free news source | http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Atkins_Nutritionals_Inc._goes_bankruptNov 28 15:08
prurigroschestowitz: lol, wasn't m.phelps more on the reverse atkins diet?Nov 28 15:09
prurigro12000 calories a day or somethingNov 28 15:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Does anyone know of a way to use !Twitter or !Googleplus via !XMPP ? I know, I asked this a month ago, but I live in ho http://ur1.ca/66ge5Nov 28 15:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Does anyone know of a way to use !Twitter or !Googleplus via !XMPP ? I know, I asked this a month ago, but I live in ho…Nov 28 15:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @JoeyColeman: A day after winning Australia's top journalism award, Assange on the crisis of legitimacy within the mainstream press: ...Nov 28 15:10
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prurigrothat said though, a diet to lose weight like atkins typically has a nearly 100% fail rateNov 28 15:14
schestowitzwhich phelps is it? The swimmer?Nov 28 15:16
schestowitzAtkins is just some name... people think there's magic to it... I guess the money on scam marketing is ocerNov 28 15:16
schestowitz*overNov 28 15:16
schestowitz!google phelps diet scamNov 28 15:16
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Hcg Diet~Round 5 P3/4 Day 37 *Raw Brownie Review* - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Di_siJu20SZQNov 28 15:16
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Michael Phelps Diet... Video | http://vodpod.com/watch/1007801-michael-phelps-diet-Nov 28 15:16
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Jared Fogle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_FogleNov 28 15:16
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Bipolar Focus - Bipolar Disorder (Manic Depression) News ... | http://www.pendulum.org/treatments.htmNov 28 15:16
schestowitzOh, I guessed rightNov 28 15:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] That's exactly the way I'm doing it right now, @psquid but I wanted to keep them a bit more separateNov 28 15:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Filching & felching one letter is a world of difference. #languageNov 28 15:17
schestowitzThe swimmerNov 28 15:17
schestowitzMichael Phelps Diet.Nov 28 15:17
schestowitzIs this a joke?Nov 28 15:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah Getting your DMs. Yet to cop a web IRC client. On FB courtesy of Yu FbSMS.Nov 28 15:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I only knew of Process One - or @TweeIM as they're called now - use to be good, but they're a bit laggy these days :(Nov 28 15:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] True Cyber Tales: Middle aged gentleman walked in with his netbook packed inside a Tusky's paper bag @eebrahNov 28 15:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Attachmate Does Not Promote Novell Products http://ur1.ca/66grx #novellNov 28 15:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] SUSE: A Master of None, #Microsoft as the Master http://ur1.ca/66grq #suse #opensuseNov 28 15:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @reality For an extra six cents you can have your compact disc signed by the Pope! (disclaimer: Pope definitions may vary) !identicurseNov 28 15:22
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prurigroschestowitz: haha, it def isn't the protesting evangelist :) is which a joke though? how much he ate in training?Nov 28 15:22
schestowitzdon't know, I don't know too much about himNov 28 15:24
schestowitzhe seems like an arseNov 28 15:24
schestowitzmore of an idol to frsat boys looking to get laid, not overeight people looking to get in better shapeNov 28 15:25
schestowitzI watched the recent swimming world championship and Phelps was just being an arrogant prick, IMHONov 28 15:25
prurigrohaha yea, I'd tend to agree- he's more an interesting case than some to aspire to beNov 28 15:27
prurigroapparently he had to smoke copious amounts of ganja to eat as much as he didNov 28 15:27
schestowitzhe isn't that bigNov 28 15:28
schestowitzlet me check..Nov 28 15:28
schestowitzUnless he has some kind of "go to loo every hour" dietNov 28 15:28
schestowitzlike some supermodelsNov 28 15:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma webIRC? tried freenode.net?Nov 28 15:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma alternatively google "web IRC"Nov 28 15:29
schestowitz"six gold and two bronze at Athens in 2004, and eight gold at Beijing in 2008"Nov 28 15:29
schestowitz"6 ft 4 in (1.93 m"Nov 28 15:29
schestowitzDoesn't say weight in wikipediaNov 28 15:30
schestowitz"You're 6' 4", about 200 pounds"Nov 28 15:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @nj3ma: True Cyber Tales: Middle aged gentleman walked in with his netbook packed inside a Tusky's paper bagNov 28 15:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Ati "It's just a hundred bob"Nov 28 15:30
schestowitzI'm heavierNov 28 15:30
schestowitzand 6'Nov 28 15:30
schestowitzhttp://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20080813/the-olympic-diet-of-michael-phelpsNov 28 15:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Olympic Diet of Michael Phelps .::. Size~: 100.47 KBNov 28 15:31
schestowitzNot the Cult of Michael will try to sell some supplementNov 28 15:31
schestowitzNot much money in sport/medalsNov 28 15:31
schestowitzSo have to sell some junk around it and do endorsement for head rubber :-)Nov 28 15:31
schestowitz"Nov 28 15:32
schestowitzHow can Michael Phelps eat 10,000 calories a day and still be so lean?Nov 28 15:32
schestowitzThere is no doubt he packs away a ton of food, but it is unlikely that he actually eats that many calories a day, an expert believes. University of Pittsburgh Director of Sports Nutrition Leslie Bonci, MPH, RD, says eating 10,000 calories a day is almost impossible. "To consume 10,000 calories a day, he would need to be eating all day long."Nov 28 15:32
schestowitz"Nov 28 15:32
schestowitzMaybe BS claims thenNov 28 15:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @nj3ma: To all the folks complaining about donating to #wikipedia. fuck you ign'ant motherfuckers! +1Nov 28 15:32
schestowitzand he can't eat that muchNov 28 15:32
schestowitzHis body won't take itNov 28 15:32
schestowitz"Penn State University director of sports nutrition, Kristine Clark, PhD, RD, agrees. "In the course of a day there are only so many hours to eat, digest, rest, and train [reports suggest he trains six hours a day] and it is almost impossible to consume 10,000 calories of whole foods."  She says most athletes are stuffed after consuming a meal of 1,500 calories of whole foods."Nov 28 15:33
schestowitzYeahNov 28 15:33
schestowitzSo seems like a scamNov 28 15:33
schestowitz"Bonci estimates that to support his 6-foot-4-inch, approximately 190-pound frame, Phelps' rigorous training regime requires roughly 1,000 calories per hour while he is racing or training; she suggests he probably eats closer to 6,000 calories per day."Nov 28 15:33
schestowitzOKNov 28 15:33
schestowitzThat's already half, at mostNov 28 15:33
schestowitzjust been to a restaurant with a friend after exercise, didn't eat muchNov 28 15:33
schestowitzAt age 20+ you would eat less than as a teenNov 28 15:33
schestowitzmetabolism slows downNov 28 15:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Also,can't remember log in credentials #irc #freenodeNov 28 15:34
schestowitzmaybe he just threw/dropped some numbers, suits his characterNov 28 15:34
schestowitz"Clark suggests he is probably supplementing his meals with specially formulated energy drinks that are concentrated in calories, including easy-to-absorb fats (which contain 2.5 times more calories than carbs or protein) to reach higher calorie levels closer to 8,000 per day."Nov 28 15:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Miss Mboch huoga na Rexona.... #totallyrandomshitNov 28 15:37
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/903357 "Oh good grief..."Nov 28 15:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma You registered your #IRC identity? you know that you can just use it as any other name? no log ins required. right?Nov 28 15:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] trying to log into identi.ca web interface to activate "old school" and I get a blank white page ... this is not looking goodNov 28 15:39
schestowitzIt could happen to any site really, but seeing the bad passwords is funny.Nov 28 15:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Hadn't thought of that.Nov 28 15:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] apparently logging into #identi.ca web requires Javascript! getting kicked in the balls would have been less painfullNov 28 15:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Interesting, @whistlewrightNov 28 15:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] So some kid claimed he invited hashtag rap and Drizzy believed him? Shame on em both! #lilseanNov 28 15:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] More #Novell Staff is Leaving as Novell Products Get Ditched by Customers http://ur1.ca/66gqmNov 28 15:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] must rest eyes ... stepping away from monitor for a fewNov 28 15:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Wait! Does identi.ca "old school" view require #Javascript to work? When will the madness end?Nov 28 15:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] BSA &BSI pressure British government on open standards. New consultation announced. http://ur1.ca/66hwj #frandNov 28 15:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] The future of openness is bright, but ensuring that future requires urgent & sustained effort. Donate to CC's campaign: http://bit.ly/9BUJjnNov 28 15:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cabinet Office Plans Open Standards Consultation | eWEEK Europe UK .::. Size~: 33.99 KBNov 28 15:47
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/909477Nov 28 15:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah On freenode.net. How to chat from there? #ircNov 28 15:49
schestowitz'"Robots that pretend to be free." <-- my new tagline for Android.'Nov 28 15:49
schestowitzcanoniucal dudeNov 28 15:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Coming To Plates In Europe: Patented Vegetables, Produced By Conventional Breeding - http://bit.ly/uA3NSp #EPO at its worstNov 28 15:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Coming To Plates In Europe: Patented Vegetables, Produced By Conventional Breeding | Techdirt .::. Size~: 45.64 KBNov 28 15:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Now what did @jrobertson say about the Raspberry Pi now?Nov 28 15:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @eebrah Wait! Does identi.ca "old school" view require #Javascript to work? When will the madness end?Nov 28 15:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Having to turn off page styling to make identica a little more livableNov 28 15:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Open source: Is the British Government doing enough? http://ur1.ca/66i9o !FLOSSNov 28 15:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @jrobertson reading the headline "Should kids learn how computers work?" <-- if you use an Apple computer that decision has already b ...Nov 28 15:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] You would.Nov 28 15:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] No, that's why they don't have a copy...Nov 28 15:59
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schestowitzwb, jonoNov 28 16:03
jonohi schestowitzNov 28 16:03
jonoI am not sure why my IRC client keeps auto-joining this chanNov 28 16:04
jonoI switched it offNov 28 16:04
jonocatch you later schestowitzNov 28 16:04
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schestowitzhe should hang out in the mint channelsNov 28 16:06
schestowitzseeing their thunder stolenNov 28 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Awesome. Rock it!Nov 28 16:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Free and unrestricted Public Sector Information: Study finds benefits outweigh costs - http://goo.gl/3duh3Nov 28 16:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Free and unrestricted Public Sector Information: Study finds benefits outweigh costs - Creative Commons .::. Size~: 24.95 KBNov 28 16:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @creativecommons The future of openness is bright, but ensuring that future requires urgent & sustained effort. Donate to CC's campai ...Nov 28 16:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @sandersch RD @weeguy k|klllllllllllllllllllllllllllllLLllllqvNov 28 16:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Thanks to everyone. No, I haven't talked publicly about this yet; yes, identi.ca and StatusNet Inc. are going to stick around.Nov 28 16:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Yes, we'll need help from volunteers to keep identi.ca running. I hope to have an announcement by end of month on this.Nov 28 16:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Just remembered @eebrah was surprised to see that I keep my email inbox current. #westillexist #since1969Nov 28 16:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Did you have to do anything to make it work? I don't think our @8ball has been running well for a while.Nov 28 16:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The OpenCorporates principles: What we do and how we do it - http://bit.ly/uK3Ly6 good stuff - kudos (v @anheem) #opendataNov 28 16:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Phone battery low. Time for me to leave. Later y'all.Nov 28 16:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The OpenCorporates principles: What we do and how we do it | OpenCorporates news .::. Size~: 45.34 KBNov 28 16:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I didn't do anything on purpose, definitely. Wonder what the problem was?Nov 28 16:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Unpatched Apache reverse proxy flaw allows access to internal network (TechWorld): http://bit.ly/uMpgujNov 28 16:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Unpatched Apache reverse proxy flaw allows access to internal network - Web servers, software, services, security, patches, internet, Hosted, Exploits / vulnerabilities, Apache Foundation - Broadband - Networking - Techworld .::. Size~: 79.74 KBNov 28 16:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Internet, Privacy, #Copyright; Choose Two - http://bit.ly/tjAuMg I don't think 1 & 3 are compatible in any meaningful way...Nov 28 16:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Grit Your Teeth…It’s About to Get Nasty | Don't Tread On Me - #usa #world #collapse #wwiii http://ur1.ca/66j2aNov 28 16:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] #gruene #Bundesdeligiertenkonferenz #bdk11 beschließt: Klares Nein zu #Softwarepatenten http://ur1.ca/66j6p !fsfe !gnu !fsNov 28 16:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] #Cablegate a year later: #WikiLeaks' influence on foreign policy, journalism and the First Amendment https://eff.org/r.4H4Nov 28 16:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #2012 elections at DuckDuckGo - the year that #TSHTF http://ur1.ca/66jtrNov 28 16:39
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schestowitzjono: don't punish a whole channel because of two peopleNov 28 16:39
jonodamn IRCNov 28 16:40
jonoschestowitz I am not punishing anyone, I am just choosing not to be around her for a bitNov 28 16:40
schestowitzthe issue is not IRCNov 28 16:40
jonolike I say, there is nothing beneficial to me about being hereNov 28 16:40
jonoanyway, I have a meetingNov 28 16:40
schestowitzit's attitudinalNov 28 16:40
jonocatch you laterNov 28 16:40
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schestowitzlolNov 28 16:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Germany's Green Party adopts resolution against software patents http://ur1.ca/66j6p (DE) #swpatNov 28 16:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Grüner Beschluss: Klares Nein zu Softwarepatenten «  I love it here .::. Size~: 11.51 KBNov 28 16:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !tzag !IdenticaNov 28 16:44
prurigrointeresting article on wikileaks, though I question how much the first amendment applies to non-US people/organizationsNov 28 16:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Oh !Canada blogged: OccupyCanada http://ur1.ca/66jz3 #OccupyCanada #OccupyToronto #OWS !CDNpoliNov 28 16:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Make-Or-Break Week For Europe — http://ur1.ca/66k4q - #eu #collapse http://goo.gl/Sx2arNov 28 16:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] blogged: #Napster on Bill C-11 http://ur1.ca/66k3r !copyright !C11 !CDNpoliNov 28 16:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Occupy Canada «  Oh! Canada .::. Size~: 50.95 KBNov 28 16:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Your Ringside Seat to the Global Financial Crisis – DollarCollapse.com .::. Size~: 52.66 KBNov 28 16:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Make-Or-Break Week For Europe — DollarCollapse.com .::. Size~: 79.23 KBNov 28 16:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Napster on Bill C-11 «  Laurel L. Russwurm .::. Size~: 67.09 KBNov 28 16:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @weeguy c ,.;/i09i0ik09ipik0pik0pik0k0ppppppp00000000iiiiiioNov 28 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] are you playing a numbers game again today @whistlewright?Nov 28 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Got rained on, had to wade through ankle deep puddles of brown murky stuff [ that was not water ]. home and dry with a hot coffee in handNov 28 16:49
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MinceRwait, what? jono not being here is supposed to be a punishment? :>Nov 28 16:53
schestowitzhe doesn't harmNov 28 16:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @laurelrusswurm: RT @weeguy c ,.;/i09i0ik09ipik0pik0pik0k0ppppppp00000000iiiiiioNov 28 16:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Lnux Mint released with 2 desktops (Inquirer): http://bit.ly/t36YDuNov 28 16:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @sirmacik: Najbliższe spotkanie z cyklu @linuxwbramie odbędzie się wyjątkowo we wtorek, 13 grudnia: http://t.co/WfDVS9Qs #lwb1211Nov 28 17:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] SocHack, why u no post info?!Nov 28 17:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] SocHack, why u no post info?!Nov 28 17:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Patent Scandal of Laws Made Behind Closed Doors - Open Enterprise - #patents #eu #shadowgov http://goo.gl/lWGGhNov 28 17:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Patent Scandal of Laws Made Behind Closed Doors - Open Enterprise .::. Size~: 78.48 KBNov 28 17:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] http://ur1.ca/66kxx #sip_and_clickNov 28 17:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Privacy monitor hacked from an old LCD Monitor - #freedomtools #hacks via @brunomiguel http://goo.gl/So5MSNov 28 17:10
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schestowitzhttp://www.infoworld.com/d/open-source-software/kindle-fires-rough-edges-reflect-poorly-android-179879 "It's unfair to compare $200 Amazon reader with slick, costlier Apple and Microsoft tablets -- but that's what users will do"Nov 28 17:13
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schestowitzMS tablets?Nov 28 17:13
schestowitzWhich ones exist at price points?Nov 28 17:14
schestowitzOr at all?Nov 28 17:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Listening to SLF "Inflammable Material" #musicNov 28 17:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Get an Acer Iconia 10-inch tablet for $229.99 http://is.gd/lnlsL7 #tablet #linuxNov 28 17:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "WordPress turned in another strong year, clearly outpacing both Joomla! and Drupal "http://ur1.ca/66lgb #cms #gplNov 28 17:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #PartedMagic update brings fixes for multi-boot CD issues http://is.gd/Z0LfGp #gnu #linux #mbrNov 28 17:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Global HDD supply to be 35% short in 4Q11, say PC makers http://ur1.ca/66lgq serious impactNov 28 17:24
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Big 3 continue to dominate the Open Source CMS race .::. Size~: 18.86 KBNov 28 17:24
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schestowitzouch https://joindiaspora.com/posts/910220Nov 28 17:30
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schestowitzhi _GoblinNov 28 17:36
_Goblinhi!Nov 28 17:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @maleadt rust roest!Nov 28 17:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @dvdeurse: Movie of the #IBBT #MAPLE project http://t.co/zjNhtJTVNov 28 17:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @kleinehgl http://t.co/BGLzMlSx - in 2 uurtjes moet je daar mee weg zijn. De rest is gewoon doen imo :)Nov 28 17:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @maleadt nopes, enkel @hedgewarsNov 28 17:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @schestowitz: Get an Acer Iconia 10-inch tablet for $229.99 http://is.gd/lnlsL7 #tablet #linux /cc @nj3ma @kelzOKONov 28 17:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Our latest SlideShare upload: Understanding Open Source Dev Model: http://ur1.ca/66m5mNov 28 17:44
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schestowitzhey koolhead17Nov 28 17:44
koolhead17schestowitz sirNov 28 17:44
schestowitzwhat's up?Nov 28 17:44
koolhead17schestowitz notthing new. you tell me whats in newsNov 28 17:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !linuxlibre 3.1.3-libre, 3.0.11-libre and 2.6.32.49-libre2 sources are availableNov 28 17:49
schestowitzXFaCE: here is timpthy's blog http://timothyblee.com/Nov 28 17:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bottom-up | A Blog by Timothy B. Lee .::. Size~: 57.5 KBNov 28 17:50
schestowitzkoolhead17: not much in the news, Monday after a ThanksgivingNov 28 17:50
schestowitzSo I do some coding today Nov 28 17:50
schestowitzwent to a restaurant with a friend in the afternoon, it's all calm now, took the week off workNov 28 17:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ex-RIAA Boss Ignores All Criticisim Of #SOPA/PIPA - http://bit.ly/rMDecJ says: "think analogue" - the problem in a nutshell #abundanceNov 28 17:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @r7: #twitter is #pants #thatisallNov 28 17:54
schestowitz_Goblin: I have loads of free time today and the rest of the week, we could get back in the groove :-)Nov 28 17:55
_GoblinYep cool!Nov 28 17:55
schestowitz\0/Nov 28 17:55
_GoblinMy net is still a little flaky.....but great!Nov 28 17:55
_Goblinsorry I was summoned downstairsNov 28 17:55
schestowitzOh, I didn't noticeNov 28 17:56
schestowitzFull HouseNov 28 17:56
*ChanServ gives channel operator status to _GoblinNov 28 18:01
*schestowitz wears black turtleneck from pre-Jobs days...Nov 28 18:01
schestowitzwikileaks hardly makes the news anymoreNov 28 18:03
schestowitzand I wonder if I should bother fetching more old Comes and wikileaks material.. it's lots of workNov 28 18:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] VectorLinux 7.0 Standard Gold just released http://ur1.ca/66mwl #linuxNov 28 18:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Britain could get a #Privacy Commissioner. http://ur1.ca/66mytNov 28 18:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] damn it. I lost my scripts for making hildon deb packages for !heybuddy. Can someone help a jezra out?Nov 28 18:07
schestowitz"Nov 28 18:07
schestowitz$7.77 TrillionNov 28 18:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The UK could get a Privacy Commissioner - The Inquirer .::. Size~: 65.67 KBNov 28 18:07
schestowitzThe amount of money the central bank parceled out was surprising even to Gary H. Stern, president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis from 1985 to 2009, who says he “wasn’t aware of the magnitude.” It dwarfed the Treasury Department’s better-known $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program, or TARP. Add up guarantees and lending limits, and the Fed had committed $7.77 trillion as of March 2009 to rescuing the financial Nov 28 18:07
schestowitzsystem, more than half the value of everything produced in the U.S. that year.Nov 28 18:07
schestowitz"Nov 28 18:07
schestowitzhttp://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-28/secret-fed-loans-undisclosed-to-congress-gave-banks-13-billion-in-income.htmlNov 28 18:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Secret Fed Loans Gave Banks $13 Billion- Bloomberg .::. Size~: 55.23 KBNov 28 18:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A shame that our planet does not expand to facilitate growth we speculate on in this massive Ponzi scheme (aka Global Economics)...Nov 28 18:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Influential USA lawyer releases most cited treatise on antitrust law under open source license. http://ur1.ca/66n9cNov 28 18:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The “progressive” capitalism of Gates and Warren Buffett is a greenwashed version of Leonard’s dinosaur economy. http://ur1.ca/66ndtNov 28 18:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] AT&T threatens to sue the FCC after withdrawing its application to buy T-Mobile USA. http://ur1.ca/66ng4Nov 28 18:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Borrowing from the future is not borrowing, it's faking growth. And like all circular lies, they build up and explode t... http://b1t.it/2xuNov 28 18:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Blu-ray video encryption cracked using $260 kit -- Engadget http://goo.gl/HKWqoNov 28 18:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The Cambrian Explosion In Startups. http://ur1.ca/66nhuNov 28 18:22
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kari_Where to get that Blue Ray cracking KIT - I want one...Nov 28 18:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Lieberman vows to stop release of Palestinian tax funds. http://ur1.ca/66njj !PalestineNov 28 18:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Lab at Hershey Medical Center identifies a virus that could kill cancer http://identi.ca/url/61132912 !scienceNov 28 18:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] If Ghostbusters was a Dr Seuss book http://identi.ca/url/61132921Nov 28 18:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Microsoft Moved My Cheese Again and I Don't Really Care to Find It. http://ur1.ca/66nlpNov 28 18:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Making a Killing: German "Defence" Exports Rise Sharply. http://ur1.ca/66nnlNov 28 18:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why Do People Keep Using Windows? http://ur1.ca/66no9 #windows #gnu #linuxNov 28 18:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Making a Killing: German Defense Exports Rise Sharply - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International .::. Size~: 45.23 KBNov 28 18:27
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/85862674Nov 28 18:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Palantir, the War on Terror's Secret Weapon. http://ur1.ca/66nomNov 28 18:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Koha trademark: top lawyer says Trust has stronger case. http://ur1.ca/66nr0Nov 28 18:29
TechrightsBot-tr@Jose R Rodriguez (metztli)'s status on Monday, 28-Nov-11 04:03:38 UTC - Identi.ca: ♺ @schestowitz When Former MS Employees Turn Against #Microsoft[not pay #tax —pretend to run a(for-profit & PR)charity] http://ur1.ca/65cyoNov 28 18:29
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Palantir, the War on Terror's Secret Weapon - Businessweek .::. Size~: 65.97 KBNov 28 18:29
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/85878492Nov 28 18:29
TechrightsBot-tr@Mike Linksvayer (mlinksva)'s status on Monday, 28-Nov-11 11:22:10 UTC - Identi.ca: "But we now allow patents on things you could never keep secret in the 1st place like software, biz methods, medicines." http://ur1.ca/666llNov 28 18:29
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Mark Shuttleworth: The Whole Patent System Is A Sham | Muktware .::. Size~: 36.9 KBNov 28 18:29
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schestowitzhey, ryanNov 28 18:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Bible’s Buried Secrets | Watch Free Documentary Online - #docs http://ur1.ca/66nroNov 28 18:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Satan: Prince Of Darkness | Watch Free Documentary Online - #docs http://ur1.ca/66nsfNov 28 18:30
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*DaemonFC is now known as DaemonFCmorningNov 28 18:31
*DaemonFCmorning is now known as DaemonFCNov 28 18:31
DaemonFCoopsNov 28 18:32
DaemonFCI meant to sayNov 28 18:32
DaemonFCmorningNov 28 18:32
DaemonFCbut, bahNov 28 18:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Anonymous & Team Poison start Operation Robin Hood. http://ur1.ca/66ntsNov 28 18:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Anonymous and Team Poison start Op Robin Hood - The Inquirer .::. Size~: 69.73 KBNov 28 18:32
DaemonFCOK, Konversation does have one problemNov 28 18:32
DaemonFCnick field next to input fieldNov 28 18:32
schestowitzyeahNov 28 18:33
schestowitzI hit it by accident sometimesNov 28 18:33
schestowitzand even put in another nick by accidentNov 28 18:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Back To Eden OFFICIAL FILM on Vimeo - #docs #permaculture http://ur1.ca/66nvjNov 28 18:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #CrunchBang 10 goes #OpenBox http://ur1.ca/66nvwNov 28 18:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu penguins build Linux TV challenge http://ur1.ca/66nwh #ubuntu #gnu #linux #tvNov 28 18:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: What kind of economy do we want in 10 yrs time? How do we build it? SPEECH: http://t.co/ http://p.ost.im/p/eAAVnqNov 28 18:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Back To Eden OFFICIAL FILM on Vimeo .::. Size~: 66.27 KBNov 28 18:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CrunchBang 10 update goes exclusively OpenBox - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.58 KBNov 28 18:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu penguins build Linux TV challenge • The Register .::. Size~: 27.4 KBNov 28 18:34
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schestowitz_Goblin: identica works well todayNov 28 18:34
schestowitznot skipping updates via APINov 28 18:34
koolhead17just was bit frustrated with the drama partNov 28 18:34
koolhead17:(Nov 28 18:34
schestowitzeverything gets through there, I hope it's fixed for good, for the first time in MONTHSNov 28 18:34
koolhead17Kryczek: supppNov 28 18:34
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DaemonFCI got my level 5 command center upgrade goingNov 28 18:38
DaemonFCthey can kill me all they want now for the next couple daysNov 28 18:38
DaemonFCI'm taking a break :)Nov 28 18:39
schestowitziophk: thanks for the links this morningNov 28 18:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New ARM Dev Toolkit for Android http://ur1.ca/66o3z #arm #linuxNov 28 18:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: New ARM Dev Toolkit for Android Addresses Platform 'Hodgepodge' .::. Size~: 42.37 KBNov 28 18:40
schestowitzDaemonFC: change gameNov 28 18:41
schestowitzyou spent how much time on this one....?Nov 28 18:41
DaemonFCmehNov 28 18:41
DaemonFCschestowitz: I multitaskNov 28 18:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux, Open Source & Ubuntu: 10 Custom Linux Distros That Ease IT Administrators` Workload http://is.gd/bqG17w #linuxNov 28 18:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 10 Custom Linux Distros That Ease IT Administrators` Workload - Linux and Open Source - News & Reviews  - eWeek.com .::. Size~: 74.32 KBNov 28 18:44
schestowitzDaemonFC: in the game?Nov 28 18:44
abeNd-org1cant say ive seen anyone actually using asteriskNov 28 18:44
schestowitzthere are server farms with itNov 28 18:45
DaemonFCschestowitz: I decided to launch a blitz attack against my neighbors to get the resources I needNov 28 18:45
schestowitzI help operate oneNov 28 18:45
DaemonFCthat was probably the most time I've put into anything in this gameNov 28 18:45
DaemonFCtook a few hoursNov 28 18:45
schestowitzDaemonFC: you can't pause games over the netNov 28 18:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LinuxMint 12 Great desktop Linux stays Great http://ur1.ca/66oalNov 28 18:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Interview: Roger Cutler on W3C and Chevron use of Semantic Web Technology http://ow.ly/1fSxMBNov 28 18:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Mint 12: A Great desktop Linux stays Great | ZDNet .::. Size~: 131.54 KBNov 28 18:45
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DaemonFCsure you canNov 28 18:46
DaemonFC:PNov 28 18:46
DaemonFCleave something going that takes hours and lots of resourcesNov 28 18:46
DaemonFCthen if anyone attacks for the next day, they put you in damage protection and don't get muchNov 28 18:46
abeNd-org1DVL...amusingNov 28 18:47
abeNd-org1astaro, plenty of customers with it, but *gasp* arent they partners with novell?Nov 28 18:47
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DaemonFCAstaro sponsored Steve Gibson's Security Now podcastNov 28 18:49
DaemonFChe's the one that got pwned by a script kiddie and made a site about itNov 28 18:49
abeNd-org1yea, hes probably more famous for the spinrite app thoughNov 28 18:51
DaemonFCnever used itNov 28 18:51
DaemonFCif a hard drive starts to fail and you don't have backups, it's a coin tossNov 28 18:52
DaemonFCexpensive recovery software or notNov 28 18:52
DaemonFCbesides, the last time I looked into it, it was focusing more on what FAT and NTFS did when the drive started to failNov 28 18:52
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DaemonFCand I don't care what they do because I don't have any drives that will fail with them as a file systemNov 28 18:53
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/910660\Nov 28 18:53
schestowitz"Why do people read Slashdot comments?"Nov 28 18:53
DaemonFCFAT is horrible and should never be used on anythingNov 28 18:53
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DaemonFCand NTFS is only passable Nov 28 18:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] "I found this new edition of !Mint to be a pleasure to use. I think you will too" Another rave review for the freshest http://ur1.ca/66olmNov 28 18:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] "I found this new edition of !Mint to be a pleasure to use. I think you will too" Another rave review for the freshest …Nov 28 18:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: silner (silner)'s status on Monday, 28-Nov-11 18:51:55 UTC - Parlementum .::. Size~: 10.44 KBNov 28 18:54
DaemonFCI actually ran into a system someone was still using that was upgraded from Windows 98 to XP a few years agoNov 28 18:54
DaemonFCthe hard drive was only 20 GB and it wasted about a GB backing up Windows 98Nov 28 18:54
DaemonFCand it did not convert from FAT32 to NTFS automaticallyNov 28 18:54
DaemonFCso I ended up trashing the backup and converting the drive to NTFS to get enough free space to work withNov 28 18:55
DaemonFClike anyone who upgraded to XP would want to uninstall it and use Windows 98Nov 28 18:56
schestowitzlolNov 28 18:57
DaemonFCthe one where everyone said "What the hell is this crap and how do I get rid of it!?" was VistaNov 28 18:57
DaemonFCand that meant reformatting the diskNov 28 18:57
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=31oUkkZ0ON0Nov 28 18:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Noize in the tunnel       - YouTube .::. Size~: 81.91 KBNov 28 18:58
schestowitzmanchesterNov 28 18:58
DaemonFCI vaguely recall Windows XP asking if you wanted to upgrade from FAT32 to NTFSNov 28 18:58
DaemonFCwithout explaining what either of them wereNov 28 18:59
DaemonFC:)Nov 28 18:59
DaemonFCleaving the user to decide what to do without any further informationNov 28 18:59
DaemonFCthe biggest problems of FAT live on in flash memory devices that come with itNov 28 19:00
DaemonFCbad performance, frequent data corruptionNov 28 19:00
DaemonFC64 Kilobyte clusters wasting expensive space Nov 28 19:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] EFF: WikiLeaks' influence on foreign policy, journalism and the First Amendment http://t.co/mEHZ0xQfNov 28 19:00
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DaemonFCand of course Microsoft patentsNov 28 19:00
MinceRpointless limitations and ugly hacksNov 28 19:02
DaemonFCif you tweak the Ext2 filesystem at format time, you can set it to not allow more than 1 KB of overhead for each fileNov 28 19:03
DaemonFCFAT32 can have up to 63K wasted per fileNov 28 19:03
MinceRas for going back to w98 -- if the "upgrade" fails, you might have to do that to get back to a system that fails to work a little lessNov 28 19:03
DaemonFCif you have several GB of storage and thousands of files, then FAT32 will end up wasting hundreds of megabytesNov 28 19:04
DaemonFCflash device makers love FAT because it makes you run out of space and have to buy more storage from them soonerNov 28 19:04
MinceR(i almost said "works" but then i remembered we're discussing winblows)Nov 28 19:04
DaemonFCFAT32 typically reduces the amount of space on the device from 5-15%Nov 28 19:05
DaemonFCafter tens of thousands of patches, Windows XP was almost usable Nov 28 19:06
DaemonFCbut that's how it always goes with Microsoft, the product starts becoming reliable just toward the end of its support cycleNov 28 19:06
DaemonFCthen they want you to upgrade to their latest alpha quality softwareNov 28 19:07
abeNd-org1beware, office2012 is around the corner, with even more feature hiding ribbons!Nov 28 19:07
MinceRyayNov 28 19:07
DaemonFCthey're pressures to release something broken to get it out for sale quickerNov 28 19:07
schestowitzDaemonFC: planned AbsoluteNonenceNov 28 19:07
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DaemonFCthen they have all the time they want to fix whatever they care toNov 28 19:07
DaemonFC*pressuredNov 28 19:07
DaemonFCUbuntu has this problem tooNov 28 19:08
MinceRwhat, they care to fix something?Nov 28 19:08
DaemonFCreleases don't get delayed for things that would stop the release of other distributionsNov 28 19:08
MinceRit certainly didn't show on any of their productsNov 28 19:08
DaemonFCand you end up getting bugs in everything, even the installerNov 28 19:08
DaemonFCI tried to make the Ubuntu 11.10 installer work on one system several times before giving upNov 28 19:08
DaemonFCand using Fedora on that system insteadNov 28 19:08
MinceR:>Nov 28 19:09
DaemonFCit kept saying "failure to create XFS partition on sda2"Nov 28 19:09
DaemonFCso I went back and made a new filesystem layout entirelyNov 28 19:09
DaemonFC"failure to create XFS partition on sda2"Nov 28 19:09
DaemonFCso I went back and made a new layout, and told it Ext4Nov 28 19:10
DaemonFC"failure to create Ext4 partition on sda2"Nov 28 19:10
MinceRsounds like a signNov 28 19:10
MinceRyou should use ext3 ;)Nov 28 19:10
DaemonFCso I went back and just selected "Use Entire Disk"Nov 28 19:10
DaemonFCthat's when the installer simply crashedNov 28 19:10
DaemonFCand this was the final release CD of UbuntuNov 28 19:10
DaemonFCthe one with Lubuntu (LXDE) fails to start LXDMNov 28 19:11
DaemonFCand you have to type in startxNov 28 19:11
DaemonFCthe one with XFCE (Xubuntu) uses LightDM, so power management settings are broken and your laptop won't sleep if you shut the lid at the login screenNov 28 19:11
DaemonFCand it also won't use auto loginsNov 28 19:11
DaemonFCKubuntu is the only one that reliably installs, reliably starts the display manager (kdm), and reliably lets you log inNov 28 19:12
DaemonFCit's even themed! (XFCE's LightDM isn't)Nov 28 19:12
DaemonFCbut the indicator widget in Kubuntu 11.10 is brokenNov 28 19:12
DaemonFCand anything that tries using it freezes at some point and must be stopped with kill -9Nov 28 19:12
DaemonFC:)Nov 28 19:12
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DaemonFCif it uses it at allNov 28 19:13
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DaemonFCit has stopped even listening to some programs that try sending it messagesNov 28 19:13
DaemonFCjono: New rule here you guys should impose.Nov 28 19:13
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DaemonFCNasty surprises are not allowed before or during installation.Nov 28 19:14
schestowitz[19:13] <-- DrPizza has left this server (Excess Flood).Nov 28 19:14
schestowitzLOLNov 28 19:14
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DaemonFCKnown issues in the Live CD boot process or installer delay the distribution release.Nov 28 19:14
schestowitzmaybe he uses vista 8 alphaNov 28 19:14
DaemonFCbut most distributions already follow thatNov 28 19:14
schestowitztrial 3Nov 28 19:14
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schestowitz[19:13] <-- jono has left this channel ("Ex-Chat").Nov 28 19:14
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schestowitzBooting into Linux in a minuteNov 28 19:15
DaemonFCUbuntu 11.10: Code Name "Wasted Plastic"Nov 28 19:15
DaemonFCB-)Nov 28 19:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Pakistan Telecommunication Authority bans “obscene” words from texts, difficulty w/ enforcement: https://eff.org/r.H95 #PTAbannedlistNov 28 19:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] 12 Reasons to Try Linux Mint 12 http://ur1.ca/66p9qNov 28 19:15
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: 12 Reasons to Try Linux Mint 12 | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 83.18 KBNov 28 19:15
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DaemonFCLinux Mint is making abad choice to base on UbuntuNov 28 19:17
DaemonFConce you get two layers of separation from Debian, you get all kinds of things going wrongNov 28 19:17
DaemonFCand they can't even fix a lot of itNov 28 19:17
DaemonFCI may look at them again if they ever get their Debian KDE edition goingNov 28 19:18
DaemonFCbinary compatibility with Ubuntu might be a feature, but at too high a priceNov 28 19:19
MinceR201458 < DaemonFC> the one with XFCE (Xubuntu) uses LightDM, so power management settings are broken and your laptop won't sleep if you shut the lid at the login screenNov 28 19:20
MinceRi don't want it to sleep thenNov 28 19:20
DaemonFCUbuntu is even infesting KDE packages and Qt with low quality patches nowNov 28 19:20
DaemonFCto make Unity 2d work rightNov 28 19:20
MinceR201730 < schestowitz> [19:13] <-- DrPizza has left this server (Excess Flood).Nov 28 19:20
MinceRalso note that his username is different every timeNov 28 19:21
DaemonFCand they cause problems in KDENov 28 19:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @ravenman: @beargeist @michelenlared is an !ubuntu's troll. Can you kick him, please? Thank you so much. :)Nov 28 19:22
DaemonFCso their Kubuntu team can't make a proper releaseNov 28 19:22
DaemonFCthen Steve of Linux pops out and calls everything but Unity "the past" repeatedlyNov 28 19:23
DrPizzaso what if it is different?Nov 28 19:23
DaemonFCit's just not a good sign for other Ubuntu based distributionsNov 28 19:23
MinceRlooks like ban evasion to meNov 28 19:23
MinceRon another channelNov 28 19:23
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DrPizzanopeNov 28 19:24
DrPizzathe IRC client I'm using randomizes the uesrname each timeNov 28 19:24
MinceRi wonder whyNov 28 19:24
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DrPizzabecause it performs massive numbers of connections from a single IP address, similar to mibbit Nov 28 19:25
MinceRyet mibbit doesn't randomize the usernameNov 28 19:25
DrPizzaso to ensure that each user's connection has a unique usernameNov 28 19:25
DrPizzait randomizes themNov 28 19:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Journalistpris till lobbykampanj? http://t.co/X9eiE12KNov 28 19:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Linux Supercomputing Dominance: A Look Under the Hood: http://t.co/XjkLPZo4 << by @amcphersonNov 28 19:25
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MinceRthere's another thing that performs massive numbers of connections from a single IP address, thoughNov 28 19:25
MinceRa floodbot script :>Nov 28 19:26
DrPizzanot really, since most networks, this one included, limit the number of connections per IP addressNov 28 19:26
MinceRagain, i wonder whyNov 28 19:27
DrPizzathe developre of the client had to get a specific exemptionNov 28 19:27
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DaemonFChttps://lwn.net/Articles/469550/Nov 28 19:31
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*DaemonFC pulled it out of KojiNov 28 19:31
MinceRTMINov 28 19:32
*DaemonFC throws a yellow angry bird pillow at MinceRNov 28 19:33
DaemonFC:DNov 28 19:33
*MinceR bats it right back at DaemonFC with a BFSNov 28 19:33
schestowitzdoes anyone here still play worms?Nov 28 19:38
schestowitzI sometimes play worms 2Nov 28 19:38
schestowitzMitn repo also has some copycatsNov 28 19:38
schestowitzhttp://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Mageia-2-Alpha-1-released-for-testing-1386172.htmlNov 28 19:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mageia 2 Alpha 1 released for testing - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 41.6 KBNov 28 19:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LinuxMint 12 Reviewed http://ur1.ca/66qld #gnome #gnuNov 28 19:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Panasonic Makes Linux Phones http://is.gd/uUuIvN #androidNov 28 19:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Secret Fed Loans Helped Banks Net $13B http://identi.ca/url/61138583Nov 28 19:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Mint 12 Review: The Best Gnome 3 Shell Implementation | Muktware .::. Size~: 51 KBNov 28 19:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Panasonic Lumix Android phones coming spring 2012 | News | TechRadar .::. Size~: 70.12 KBNov 28 19:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Secret Fed Loans Helped Banks Net $13B - Bloomberg .::. Size~: 188.28 KBNov 28 19:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Eleven Equations True Computer Science Geeks Should (at Least Pretend to) Know http://identi.ca/url/61138829Nov 28 20:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] 10gen offers prizes for MongoDB community awards by @ameliamango | http://red.ht/uQnY4uNov 28 20:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Elegant Coding: Eleven Equations True Computer Science Geeks Should (at Least Pretend to) Know .::. Size~: 89.83 KBNov 28 20:00
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DaemonFCMageia still hasn't moved over to grub 2Nov 28 20:02
DaemonFCconsidering how others have handled the bootloader migration, I'm reluctant to use a distribution that has not transitioned yetNov 28 20:03
DaemonFCUbuntu still has grub legacy packages for people who were already using it and on a few of their use cases that haven't moved over yetNov 28 20:04
DaemonFCFedora had an automated upgrade that doesn't appear to always work rightNov 28 20:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open source: Is the government doing enough? http://ur1.ca/66i96 #egov #ukNov 28 20:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Science prize goes to an open source project http://is.gd/Fj2YVr good science gets shared and spreads quickly, like FOSSNov 28 20:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Science prize goes to an open source project - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.31 KBNov 28 20:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why free software is not a job killer http://ur1.ca/66rb6 #fudNov 28 20:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] It's official: #KTorrent is awesome. !kde :)Nov 28 20:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why free software is not a job killer | ITworld .::. Size~: 115.97 KBNov 28 20:15
prurigroschestowitz: you run mint eh?Nov 28 20:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Monday http://ur1.ca/66rdxNov 28 20:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Stop invasive border searches with @EFF & @CREDOMobile! Remember to vote for us on the '11 CREDO ballot: https://eff.org/r.H86Nov 28 20:20
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schestowitzprurigro: noNov 28 20:20
prurigrooh, you'd mentioned the mint repo up there- what do you run?Nov 28 20:21
schestowitzthat's my sister'sNov 28 20:23
prurigroahh makes sense then- I figured you'd run something a bit more interesting :)Nov 28 20:25
schestowitzhttp://royal.pingdom.com/2011/11/23/ubuntu-linux-losing-popularity-fast-new-unity-interface-to-blame/Nov 28 20:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu Linux losing popularity fast. New Unity interface to blame? | Royal Pingdom .::. Size~: 121.71 KBNov 28 20:25
schestowitzprurigro: I use ubuntu more than jonoNov 28 20:26
schestowitzHe is not running Ubuntu, he is just running awayNov 28 20:26
schestowitzand sometimes Vista 7Nov 28 20:26
schestowitzfor which he thanked Microsoft UKNov 28 20:26
prurigroubuntu was ever really solid enough anyway imo- tho a lot of people question distro watch's statsNov 28 20:30
prurigroand lol, so two people, one account?Nov 28 20:32
prurigroroy and his sister?Nov 28 20:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #identica works without a flaw since yesterday, probably for the first time in a couple of months.Nov 28 20:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Version 1.0 of YaCy distributed search engine released http://is.gd/1YszVG but the name is kind of yuckyNov 28 20:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Version 1.0 of YaCy distributed search engine released - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 41.47 KBNov 28 20:34
DaemonFCUbuntu is pretty flaky Nov 28 20:34
DaemonFCtheir goal with 12.04 is apparently to stabilize a lot of stuff that has gotten away from them over the last few releasesNov 28 20:34
schestowitz"Well, the intention was to have a name sounding like "Ya see".. I agree ;)" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/911504Nov 28 20:34
DaemonFCI hope that works out for themNov 28 20:34
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DaemonFCtheir development cycle is such that anything that doesn't say LTS is beta softwareNov 28 20:35
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/85902166Nov 28 20:35
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 28-Nov-11 20:11:40 UTC - Identi.ca: Crashing Google Wave Finds New Life in Open Source http://is.gd/vxmj9x #google #waveNov 28 20:35
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DaemonFCand so much has accumulated that 11.10 is pretty lulzyNov 28 20:35
DaemonFCif they would backport new KDE and a few other things to the LTS, I would be using the LTS of 10.04 right nowNov 28 20:36
DaemonFCand we wouldn't be talking about problemsNov 28 20:36
DaemonFCyou have to dive in and take the wheat with the chaff to get new things with Ubuntu, and I absolutely hate thatNov 28 20:37
DaemonFCit's somewhat true with Fedora, but they don't compromise the quality of the distribution for things that few people would find handy or that only they use Nov 28 20:37
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FaitherHiya ^^Nov 28 20:38
DaemonFCthere's some stuff where I don't care what version it comes withNov 28 20:39
prurigroDaemonFC, true- they also seemed to keep adding things instead of working on finishing other thingsNov 28 20:39
DaemonFCbut as it gets to be more and more or something sufficiently huge, like ALL OF KDE....Nov 28 20:39
DaemonFCtime to find a new distroNov 28 20:39
FaitherJust a thought here and IANAL but couldn't microsoft be forced under the patriot act to include government controlled backdoors in its OSNov 28 20:39
DaemonFCFaither: No, they don't do it for legal reasonsNov 28 20:39
DaemonFCthey do it because the government lets all the antitrust stuff slideNov 28 20:40
DaemonFCif they build in government spywareNov 28 20:40
DaemonFCif you look closely, all the antitrust stuff melts away as long as they put in the spywareNov 28 20:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Fedora 16 vs. #Ubuntu 11.10 Performance Benchmarks http://is.gd/jWzYxD technical and interestingNov 28 20:40
DaemonFCthe government doesn't care about high prices and lack of consumer optionsNov 28 20:40
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DaemonFCthey use antitrust as a stick to beat Microsoft with until they agree to collaborate with the NSA or MI-5Nov 28 20:41
DaemonFCif anything, Microsoft is worse now than they've ever beenNov 28 20:41
DaemonFCbut the government has suddenly lost interestNov 28 20:41
DaemonFC;)Nov 28 20:41
DaemonFCaround the same time, you hear about how the NSA worked closely with Microsoft on Windows Vista and 7Nov 28 20:42
Faitherwhat exactly was the difference between the two?Nov 28 20:42
FaitherxDNov 28 20:42
Faitherother than the nameNov 28 20:42
DaemonFCbetween the two what?Nov 28 20:42
FaitherVista and 7Nov 28 20:43
DaemonFCMI-5 is the UK counterpart to the US NSA Nov 28 20:43
DaemonFCthey spy on each other's citizens to get around their own charters and constitutional restrictionsNov 28 20:43
FaitherI know but then I don't understand our government spending money on spyware and trojans....Nov 28 20:43
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/85903022Nov 28 20:43
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 28-Nov-11 20:33:22 UTC - Identi.ca: #Linux 3.2-rc3  http://ur1.ca/66rww #kernelNov 28 20:43
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DaemonFCthe US constitution says the US government can't do some things without a warrant, and the law establishing the NSA and the CIA says they are not allowed to do domestic spying of certain kindsNov 28 20:45
DaemonFCso they get the British to do it for themNov 28 20:45
DaemonFCand hand them all the data they have collectedNov 28 20:45
DaemonFCand it's a similar situation with the British spy agencies and their citizensNov 28 20:45
DaemonFCso in return, they get the US spy agencies to do it and hand them the notesNov 28 20:45
DaemonFCat the time the US constitution was written, such a thing was considered unthinkable Nov 28 20:46
DaemonFCespecially with the BritishNov 28 20:46
Faither^^Nov 28 20:46
DaemonFCat that time, the two governments were bitter enemies and when not officially at war, they were doing anything they could to undermine the otherNov 28 20:48
DaemonFCand now they collaborate on a lot of really nasty stuffNov 28 20:48
DaemonFCfrom what countries to invade, to how the spoils get divided afterwards Nov 28 20:48
DaemonFCto how they can help each other get around their own citizen's protection from themNov 28 20:49
DaemonFCthe British are already planning to attack Iran even ahead of the US government asking them to come alongNov 28 20:50
DaemonFCbut when we do ask them to jump, they'll only ask us how highNov 28 20:50
DaemonFC:)Nov 28 20:50
DaemonFCyou want to say bad stuff about the US, why don't you first purge the collaborators from your own governmentNov 28 20:51
DaemonFCusing your money to help out :)Nov 28 20:52
DaemonFCI wonder what would have been said about the French resistance if the Nazis treated them as favorite pets and they went along with it only lodging the occasional token complaintNov 28 20:53
DaemonFC:)Nov 28 20:53
DaemonFCyou can't complain about the US while you're going along with your own government that has their hand in the cookie jarNov 28 20:54
DaemonFCwell, you can, but you're a hypocrite Nov 28 20:54
DaemonFCif it has gotten so far out of your control that you're just a helpless observer, admit that you too have a bad government you can't do much aboutNov 28 20:55
DaemonFCdon't stand there and say how superior your country isNov 28 20:55
DaemonFCnationalism does some perverted thingsNov 28 20:55
DaemonFCCanada, Australia, and the EU have no intention of shutting Microsoft down eitherNov 28 20:57
DaemonFCthey use antitrust the same way the US government doesNov 28 20:57
DaemonFCto get Microsoft to put in their spyware and to collect "punitive fines" as a way to tax a foreign companyNov 28 20:57
FaitherI may be very well a lot of things, but i'm certainly not a nationalist I hate my country and mother tongueNov 28 20:57
FaitherxDNov 28 20:57
DaemonFCif they don't comply and pay up, you'll see embargo of Microsoft crap over thereNov 28 20:57
DaemonFCThe European Commission on antitrust is just another racketNov 28 20:58
DaemonFCto tax foreign companies and then let the mbe on their merry wayNov 28 20:58
DaemonFCwhen Microsoft is their victim, it's easy to lose perspective Nov 28 20:59
DaemonFCit taxes foreign imports, in this case, Windows, in such a way that Microsoft can't complain to the WTO about tariffs Nov 28 21:00
DaemonFCthat's all it isNov 28 21:00
DaemonFCand it isn't just MicrosoftNov 28 21:00
DaemonFCthe Europeans love them some taxesNov 28 21:00
DaemonFCthey get their citizens to sign off on handing over half their income in exchange for some healthcare now and thenNov 28 21:00
DaemonFC:)Nov 28 21:00
DaemonFCit makes me laugh at how little it takes to buy someone offNov 28 21:01
DaemonFCeven as you extract more from them than what they get backNov 28 21:01
MinceRhungarians sign off over half their income and all their human rights in exchange for no healthcare in the not-so-far futureNov 28 21:01
MinceRand no pensionNov 28 21:01
DaemonFCthe US has low taxes right now and puts everything on the credit cardNov 28 21:02
Faithersometimes I'm also kind of thankful that M$ is so dominant ... it gives me a false sense of security xDNov 28 21:02
DaemonFCit makes politicians here more popular and leaves the growing mess for the futureNov 28 21:02
prurigroeveryone knows about https://github.com/TTimo/doom3.gpl right?Nov 28 21:02
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Faitherprurigro: what about it?Nov 28 21:02
DaemonFCpeople don't have to cough up $3 trillion for Afghanistan and Iraq right at this momentNov 28 21:03
DaemonFCso it gives the impression that they were "free"Nov 28 21:03
prurigrojust that it'd been gpl'dNov 28 21:03
Faitheryes, got the newsNov 28 21:03
DaemonFCyesNov 28 21:03
DaemonFCand we have a bunch of IANAL trolls complaining about GPL 3 infringements that aren't Nov 28 21:03
DaemonFC:)Nov 28 21:03
MinceRyesNov 28 21:03
prurigrooh?Nov 28 21:03
DaemonFCyes, they modified the GPL 3 in sections that say you can modify the conditionsNov 28 21:04
DaemonFCin ways that are compatible with the stock GPL 3Nov 28 21:04
DaemonFCmostly to clarify some legal language Nov 28 21:04
DaemonFCit is GPL 3 compatibleNov 28 21:04
DaemonFCand it is free softwareNov 28 21:04
prurigrointeresting- so its like a gplv3 fork?Nov 28 21:04
DaemonFCbut some Phoronix trolls that have no understanding and probably didn't read the entire license think they know everythingNov 28 21:04
prurigrowhy would that infringe?Nov 28 21:05
DaemonFCit doesn'tNov 28 21:05
DaemonFCit's GPL 3 compatible, 100%Nov 28 21:05
DaemonFCthe extra "terms" clarify legal wordingNov 28 21:05
DaemonFCto reinforce the conditions set by the GPLNov 28 21:05
DaemonFCand the GPL says you can do thisNov 28 21:05
DaemonFCthere is no issue with the licensingNov 28 21:05
DaemonFCprurigro: You can modify the license in certain sections to clarify the wording to achieve the same outcome as the original textNov 28 21:06
DaemonFCit's mostly there to make it easy to edit to satisfy laws in various countriesNov 28 21:06
Diablo-D3no its notNov 28 21:06
prurigroeven if it wasn't compatible tho, it wouldnt be infringing, the modified license is what it was stamped withNov 28 21:07
Diablo-D3its allowed by the gplv3, just rarely usedNov 28 21:07
Diablo-D3its not a bug as much of a misfeatureNov 28 21:07
DaemonFCpeople are too quick to panic and spread nonsenseNov 28 21:07
DaemonFCand that's the only problem with DOOM 3 engine's licensingNov 28 21:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 28/11/2011: Linux 3.2 RC3, VectorLinux 7.0 http://ur1.ca/66t5m #techrightsNov 28 21:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Steve [Jobs] didn't believe in my work on Open Source." http://ur1.ca/66t5u #pixarNov 28 21:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "...where much of the syllabus is devoted to teaching people how to use Microsoft Word rather than fundamentals..." http://ur1.ca/66t9hNov 28 21:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ACLU Runs CIA? http://ur1.ca/66tci says the radical.Nov 28 21:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Why Are People Still Afraid of #Atheism? http://ur1.ca/66tdq #secular #humanist #religionNov 28 21:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] 48 days to go until #LCA2012! Woot! Speakers: how are you going with your presentations? All finished?! Awesome!Nov 28 21:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] You're taking the quote out of context(though it's hard to fit in 140 chars, perhaps just link and description? Perens on Jobs maybe)Nov 28 21:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @JokeVDDooren zal wel komen als er meer vraag naar komt. Zijn jullie ook met iets bezig?Nov 28 21:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @MMLab_UGent: Uploaded a number of movies illustrating recently finished #IBBT e-learning projects w http://ur1. ...Nov 28 21:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @DirDigEng: Zijlstra @ #appsgaala: "When you open up data it is small companies that benefit the most" #opendataNov 28 21:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Choisissez @swersanne ik ben fan! @iRail kan wel zorgen dat stumo.be in orde komt :)Nov 28 21:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @VOKA_tdemeyer Meet @netlash #ziehetalseencomplimentNov 28 21:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @JokeVDDooren - @iRail ontwikkelde al voor WP7. Heel veel ondersteuning kregen we toch niet - http://u http://ur1. ...Nov 28 21:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Just Because New Artist Platforms Aren't Minting Millionaires Doesn't Mean These Platforms Have Failed - http://bit.ly/sOL6y7 importantNov 28 21:34
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schestowitzhttp://www.androidguys.com/2011/11/28/lg-announces-android-4-0-for-four-handsets/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+androidguyscom+%28AndroidGuys%29Nov 28 21:41
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schestowitzI reckon they pay for Vole for Linux, stillNov 28 21:41
MinceRi wonder who the handsetsAndroidGuys areNov 28 21:41
MinceRall i know is there are four of them :>Nov 28 21:42
schestowitzGlyn recommended them some years back so I subscribedNov 28 21:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Tweeting Teen Completes Total Victory over Crybaby Kansas Governor (Gawker): http://gaw.kr/rzVZloNov 28 21:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] depends how you define it; certainly a big chunk of our genome...Nov 28 21:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] This is cool. http://ur1.ca/66ucq Yacy distributed p2p search engine via !techrightsNov 28 21:52
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/910332Nov 28 21:52
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schestowitzre vectorlinuxNov 28 21:52
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schestowitzcubefc1: it's canadian, did you try it?Nov 28 21:52
schestowitz"Nov 28 21:52
schestowitzMust have another look at it.Nov 28 21:52
schestowitzI did an install of the RC and wasn't impressed. I had to put up fly-screens on all the doors in order to keep the bugs out.Nov 28 21:52
schestowitzAt the time, I wouldn't have classified it as Alpha.Nov 28 21:52
schestowitzI just put this down to the effect of a small development team, but when you look at it, it's not all that small. About 30 from memory.Nov 28 21:52
schestowitzBut it's Slackware-based and past releases have impressed, so I'll try again.Nov 28 21:52
schestowitzIf it goes well, it would be good competition for LMDE, although Vector never seem to advertise much.Nov 28 21:52
schestowitz"Nov 28 21:52
schestowitzDaemonFC: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/910220 "Sadly, the kid looks conditioned to it."Nov 28 21:53
schestowitzThat's like you..Nov 28 21:53
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DaemonFCnahNov 28 21:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Elvis #Costello to fans: my label is gouging you on my new box set; don't buy it. download by "unconventional means" - http://bit.ly/tMqAvFNov 28 21:55
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DaemonFCshe's right, she's just not politically correctNov 28 21:55
DaemonFCpolitically correct but not right = undocumented immigrantNov 28 21:56
DaemonFCnot politically correct, but right = illegal foreign trespasserNov 28 21:57
DaemonFC:)Nov 28 21:57
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DaemonFCpolitical correctness is a form of censorship via euphemism Nov 28 21:59
schestowitzonly *you* can say that...Nov 28 21:59
schestowitzSo I knew your reaction would be oddNov 28 22:00
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/85810950#notice-85905075Nov 28 22:00
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/85905075Nov 28 22:00
TechrightsBot-tr@tekk's status on Monday, 28-Nov-11 21:28:18 UTC - Identi.ca: You're taking the quote out of context(though it's hard to fit in 140 chars, perhaps just link and description? Perens on Jobs maybe)Nov 28 22:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Good Pocket - An #EDC site http://ur1.ca/66umrNov 28 22:00
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DaemonFClike African AmericansNov 28 22:01
DaemonFCschestowitz: How many African Americans do you have over there? :)Nov 28 22:01
DaemonFCheheNov 28 22:01
DaemonFChttp://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=your_stupid_ideasNov 28 22:02
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MinceRwouldn't that be African British?Nov 28 22:02
DaemonFCnopeNov 28 22:02
DaemonFCread stupid assumption #2Nov 28 22:02
DaemonFC"Not to mention that every time you give a black person the distinction of being "African American" out of a mixed group, you're making an assumption about an entire continent; not everyone from Africa is black. I guarantee all you politically correct morons out there have never called a white person an African American. "Nov 28 22:03
MinceR:)Nov 28 22:03
MinceRi didn't say i agreed with the term, though :>Nov 28 22:04
MinceRthat said, afaik the entire human species originates from africaNov 28 22:04
DaemonFCyeah, but I speak with words instead of pops and clicksNov 28 22:04
DaemonFCI wear clothesNov 28 22:04
DaemonFCI don't eat other peopleNov 28 22:05
DaemonFCand I don't have AIDSNov 28 22:05
schestowitzagain you speak BSNov 28 22:05
DaemonFCoops ;)Nov 28 22:05
schestowitzAfrican has many tonguesNov 28 22:05
MinceRyou can never know if you eat other people or not ;)Nov 28 22:05
schestowitz*AfricaNov 28 22:05
MinceRschestowitz: almost one per person? :>Nov 28 22:05
MinceRor you meant languages? :>Nov 28 22:05
schestowitzThe languages you speak of exist in south America tooNov 28 22:05
schestowitzhe First People are quite related to someNov 28 22:05
schestowitzand they come from the area where you now call the people "yellow"Nov 28 22:05
DaemonFCget rid of the catholic church, pass out some condoms, and tell them to stop piercing their genitalsNov 28 22:06
DaemonFCand they too can half less than 50% HIV rates in most areasNov 28 22:06
DaemonFC:)Nov 28 22:06
DaemonFC*haveNov 28 22:06
abeNd-org1instead of piercing, just totally deface them, then they cant procreateNov 28 22:06
schestowitzthe US does genital mutilation extensivelyNov 28 22:07
schestowitzMore sot han EuropeNov 28 22:07
DaemonFCwhat you have here are ignorants being fed bullshit by other ignorants Nov 28 22:07
schestowitzSo again you show hypocrisyNov 28 22:07
DaemonFCI don't decorate my dick like a Christmas treeNov 28 22:07
DaemonFCthen go out and fuck people without a condom onNov 28 22:08
DaemonFCpeople are just fucking grossNov 28 22:08
DaemonFCthat's all it isNov 28 22:08
DaemonFCgross fucking peopleNov 28 22:08
DaemonFC:)Nov 28 22:08
abeNd-org1i couldnt imagine doing that, there are places holes just arent supposed to be added...Nov 28 22:08
DaemonFCschestowitz has no sense of humor and an affinity for politically correct euphemism brainwashingNov 28 22:09
DaemonFCit makes him amusing to be aroundNov 28 22:09
DaemonFC:)Nov 28 22:09
DaemonFCpolitical correctness is just another attack on rational thoughtNov 28 22:10
DaemonFCget rid of it, you won't be as popular in certain circles, but you won't be a douche eitherNov 28 22:11
DaemonFCso there's thatNov 28 22:11
DaemonFCOh, African Americans! LOL!!! HAPPY KWANZAA!!! - DoucheNov 28 22:11
DaemonFCAfrican Americans! LOL! Kwanzaa? LOL!!! -meNov 28 22:12
MinceRscary solstice to you too!Nov 28 22:12
DaemonFCMinceR: Let's invite the ZOMG AFRICAN AMERICANS to our GENERIC UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANT INCLUSIVE WINTER FESTIVITIES!!!!!Nov 28 22:13
DaemonFC-Maximum DOucheNov 28 22:13
abeNd-org1I think most people would appreciate honesty over political correctnessNov 28 22:14
DaemonFCChrist on a crutch, how far does this shit go?Nov 28 22:14
DaemonFCdoes it fucking have an end?Nov 28 22:14
DaemonFCFUCK!Nov 28 22:14
DaemonFC:)Nov 28 22:14
DaemonFCpolitical correctness is a mental diseaseNov 28 22:15
DaemonFCit helps eat away rational thought and specific discussionNov 28 22:15
DaemonFCit's a form of newspeakNov 28 22:16
abeNd-org1now that is one campaign I could get behind "End political correctness, revive honesty"Nov 28 22:16
DaemonFCsubverting language is the first step to controlling thought and discussion Nov 28 22:17
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DaemonFCadding all kinds of overly polite euphemisms for everything is something that just has to endNov 28 22:18
*prurigro gives voice to Diablo-D3Nov 28 22:18
*prurigro gives voice to DaemonFCNov 28 22:18
DaemonFCsometimes it makes parasites seem more benignNov 28 22:18
prurigrohey XFaCENov 28 22:18
DaemonFCsometimes it just makes you call something a word that doesn't describe the person being discussedNov 28 22:18
DaemonFCit's always wrongNov 28 22:18
DaemonFCI might say "There's a group of African Americans", it's polite but wrongNov 28 22:19
DaemonFCI could say "Look, there's a group of black people"Nov 28 22:19
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DaemonFCbut calling them black is wrong even if they would call you a honkey cracker ass crackerNov 28 22:20
abeNd-org1"oh look, it is a group of people"Nov 28 22:20
abeNd-org1oh but the catch is I am still considered racist there because I *did not* label them........Nov 28 22:21
DaemonFCshouting "Pull your damned pants up!" is another thing that's "wrong"Nov 28 22:21
*abeNd-org1 rolls his eyesNov 28 22:21
DaemonFCeven when they shouldNov 28 22:21
DaemonFC"Hey, pull your pants up, you can run from the police faster!"Nov 28 22:21
DaemonFCheheNov 28 22:21
abeNd-org1oh but it is fun to watch cops & see baggy pant criminals trip & fall over themsevlesNov 28 22:21
DaemonFCit's like watching someone in a potato sack try to fleeNov 28 22:22
DaemonFCit's hilarious every timeNov 28 22:22
abeNd-org1oh but now you are racist since you thought it was funnyNov 28 22:22
abeNd-org1point being, no matter what you do, you will be considered racistNov 28 22:23
MinceRi didn't know that baggy pants were a racial feature :>Nov 28 22:23
MinceRoh, only consideredNov 28 22:23
DaemonFConly when they're belted to your knees or ankles, MinceRNov 28 22:23
DaemonFCB-)Nov 28 22:23
MinceR:>Nov 28 22:23
abeNd-org1they (being everyone, including the media) don't just throw the race card these days, they throw the whole deck of cardsNov 28 22:23
schestowitzit's a tough situationNov 28 22:24
schestowitzthen there is the "hate speech" labelNov 28 22:24
DaemonFCI can't quite picture MinceR running from the cops with pants belted to his knees and his underwear hanging outNov 28 22:24
schestowitzLOLNov 28 22:24
DaemonFChe's not the right stereotype Nov 28 22:24
schestowitztripping over one's patntsNov 28 22:24
MinceRi dress sensiblyNov 28 22:24
schestowitzI was told it's something to do with prisons where you have no beltsNov 28 22:24
DaemonFCthey would know I guessNov 28 22:25
schestowitzSo apparently they send out the message they'll like runaway inmatesNov 28 22:25
DaemonFC:)Nov 28 22:25
MinceRrunaway inmates who wear street gear (not prison gear) but were too stupid to buy a belt? :>Nov 28 22:25
schestowitz[22:24] <DaemonFC> he's not the right stereotype Nov 28 22:25
schestowitzI know nothing abut his appearance or nameNov 28 22:25
DaemonFCMinceR: They spent their belt budget on crack cocaineNov 28 22:25
DaemonFCduh!Nov 28 22:25
DaemonFC:DNov 28 22:25
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MinceR:>Nov 28 22:26
schestowitzbelt is blettNov 28 22:26
schestowitznyet?Nov 28 22:27
schestowitzharasho?Nov 28 22:27
MinceRreal horrorshowNov 28 22:28
schestowitzduhNov 28 22:29
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/85906894Nov 28 22:32
TechrightsBot-tr@Jose R Rodriguez (metztli)'s status on Monday, 28-Nov-11 22:21:55 UTC - Identi.ca: "Steve [Jobs] didn't believe in my work on #OpenSource." http://ur1.ca/66t5u ☝preferred to herd sheep, mesmerizing them w/psychedelic toys?Nov 28 22:32
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/910220Nov 28 22:44
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schestowitz"tweets here https://twitter.com/#!/search/kellysw9?q=kellysw9"Nov 28 22:44
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schestowitz"Nov 28 22:44
schestowitzShe got arrested.Nov 28 22:44
schestowitzhttp://www.itv.com/london/tram-rant-arrest63385/Nov 28 22:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: London Regional News | London Tonight - ITV Local .::. Size~: 54.22 KBNov 28 22:45
schestowitz"  << That lady from the tramNov 28 22:45
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/910660 "Because of the comedy ? They make me laugh."Nov 28 22:45
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schestowitz"Nov 28 22:48
schestowitzafter RTFA i can agree, but then we only have one windows laptop at home everything else is a form on Linux.Nov 28 22:48
schestowitzAt work well, 10s of 1000s of windows and a lot, high 1000s of UNIX. I work on the UNIX :)Nov 28 22:48
schestowitz"Nov 28 22:48
MinceRgnNov 28 22:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Linux Supercomputing Dominance: A Look Under the Hood By @amcpherson http://goo.gl/mwYF0Nov 28 22:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Supercomputing Dominance: A Look Under the Hood | The Linux Foundation .::. Size~: 39.29 KBNov 28 22:50
DaemonFCarrested for what?Nov 28 22:52
DaemonFCis being distasteful a crime there?Nov 28 22:52
DaemonFC :)Nov 28 22:52
DaemonFChurting peoples feelings?Nov 28 22:53
DaemonFC(hate speech)Nov 28 22:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux Supercomputing Dominance: A Look Under the Hood http://is.gd/RYSaBP #gnu #linux #hpcNov 28 22:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Supercomputing Dominance: A Look Under the Hood | The Linux Foundation .::. Size~: 39.29 KBNov 28 22:54
DaemonFCsticks and stones, schestowitzNov 28 22:54
DaemonFCpeople need to toughen up and quit bitching about hurt feelingsNov 28 22:54
DaemonFC:)Nov 28 22:54
DaemonFCit makes your entire country look like an episode of Oprah Nov 28 22:55
DaemonFC:)Nov 28 22:55
schestowitzMaybe for an unrelated chargeNov 28 22:55
schestowitznot disorderly conductNov 28 22:56
schestowitzmaybe drug useNov 28 22:56
schestowitzwho knows...Nov 28 22:56
schestowitzLOL http://redmondmag.com/articles/2011/11/28/sql-server-odbc-driver-released.aspxNov 28 23:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SQL Server ODBC Driver Released for Red Hat Linux -- Redmondmag.com .::. Size~: 59.97 KBNov 28 23:02
schestowitzNow Microsoft will claim to "contribute" to LinuxNov 28 23:02
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/85907798Nov 28 23:03
TechrightsBot-tr@Jose R Rodriguez (metztli)'s status on Monday, 28-Nov-11 22:47:19 UTC - Identi.ca: After more than 5yrs of dev, version 1.0 of #GPL -licensed #YaCy distributed search engine released http://is.gd/1YszVG {♺ @schestowitz}Nov 28 23:03
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Version 1.0 of YaCy distributed search engine released - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 41.47 KBNov 28 23:03
schestowitzMicrosoft alreadu claims to have contributed using its own 'ptrss'Nov 28 23:03
schestowitzThe "Redmond" 'news' siteNov 28 23:03
DaemonFCredmondrag Nov 28 23:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cricket ZTE Chorus runs #linux http://ur1.ca/66wof #zteNov 28 23:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cricket ZTE Chorus brings entry-level Muve Music for $39.99, but it's not a smartphone | The Verge .::. Size~: 85.86 KBNov 28 23:09
schestowitzsounds like dragNov 28 23:11
schestowitzbut anyway, they push MS PRNov 28 23:11
schestowitzI guess for employees from thereNov 28 23:11
schestowitzkoolaide pressNov 28 23:11
DaemonFCschestowitz: Ubuntu is freedomNov 28 23:25
DaemonFCfreedom hidden behind F6 in the boot menuNov 28 23:25
schestowitzhttp://blogs.ec.europa.eu/neelie-kroes/eu-robotics-week/Nov 28 23:25
DaemonFC;)Nov 28 23:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EU ROBOTICS WEEK «  Digital Agenda Commissioner – Neelie Kroes .::. Size~: 34.95 KBNov 28 23:25
schestowitzDaemonFC: you scared jono away today, againNov 28 23:25
DaemonFCI tryNov 28 23:25
DaemonFC:)Nov 28 23:25
DaemonFCIf you hit F6 in the installer and choose Free Software Only, then nothing that doesn't comply with the Debian Free Software Guidelines is removed and the nonfree repositories are disabledNov 28 23:26
DaemonFCerrrNov 28 23:27
DaemonFCeverythingNov 28 23:27
DaemonFCI asked jono the other day why they make it so hard to install a totally free software systemNov 28 23:27
DaemonFChe left Nov 28 23:27
DaemonFC:)Nov 28 23:27
DaemonFCschestowitz: I spray and I spray and he keeps coming backNov 28 23:29
DaemonFCI don't have a problem with opting into a system that has some nonfree softwareNov 28 23:30
DaemonFCwhat I do have a problem with is dumping a bunch of it the user probably doesn't need onto the system then hiding the option that makes it not do thatNov 28 23:30
DaemonFCthe only pieces of nonfree software I always end up with are Flash and unrarNov 28 23:31
DaemonFCeverything else is not really all that urgentNov 28 23:32
prurigroflash should be gone soon enough tooNov 28 23:32
DaemonFCall and all, free software has eliminated the need for over 99% of the nonfree software people were depending onNov 28 23:32
prurigrojavascript + canvas + htmlvideo can do anything it can and more unless you want to hook your webcam into itNov 28 23:33
DaemonFCwhy not embrace it instead of trying to drop in nonfree software with free software replacements that work?Nov 28 23:33
DaemonFCprurigro: I don't think Flash will die off soonNov 28 23:34
DaemonFCI think it will become much less important when all you want is to watch Youtube or somethingNov 28 23:34
prurigrohtml5 has video, why would I use flash?Nov 28 23:35
DaemonFCand for a lot of users, that will be good enough that they can just delete the stupid plug-in once and for allNov 28 23:35
prurigroit streams more smoothly and crashes my browser far less tooNov 28 23:35
DaemonFCI predict that Flash will probably go from being installed on 98% of systems (now) to being installed on less than half within 3 yearsNov 28 23:36
prurigroonce youtube stops requiring it, noone's gonna have it autoinstalledNov 28 23:36
prurigroor waitNov 28 23:36
DaemonFCit's just not used a lot outside of playing videos and doing gimmicky effects that HTML 5 , CSS, and Javascript can do nowNov 28 23:36
prurigroyup-- aside from youtube not completely dropping yet, I'd say its more like backwards compatibility for the old internet at this pointNov 28 23:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Shared a post "The origins of punctuation marks we use in everyday life: Question Mark ? Origin: When early scholars ... http://b1t.it/2GLNov 28 23:44
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schestowitz[23:29] <DaemonFC> schestowitz: I spray and I spray and he keeps coming backNov 28 23:54
schestowitznot a pleasant analogyNov 28 23:54
schestowitzyou just drive him away and I think others in here want him to stayNov 28 23:54
*DaemonFC is listening to Tainted Love - Where Did Our Love Go? [12' Mix] by Soft Cell on Ministry Of Sound - Anthems - Electronic 80s [Disc 1] [Amarok]Nov 28 23:54
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schestowitzDaemonFC: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/913074Nov 28 23:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Have a nice journey.Nov 28 23:57

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