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| schestowitz | The party was great. 300 or so people sang happy birthday to me :-) ... and today I already return to work :-( | Dec 18 10:40 |
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| schestowitz | wrote 7 posts in the gym this afternoon... time to publish them... | Dec 18 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | I got a new client for a project that involves programming a survey that can be taken through a browser. | Dec 18 15:00 |
| schestowitz | very easy | Dec 18 15:00 |
| schestowitz | [16:48] <schestowitz> some midland people stop coming | Dec 18 16:50 |
| schestowitz | [16:48] <schestowitz> cause they lost their job | Dec 18 16:50 |
| schestowitz | [16:48] <schestowitz> if you speak to them, you find out | Dec 18 16:50 |
| schestowitz | [16:49] <schestowitz> there was good stuff on TV in the gym today | Dec 18 16:50 |
| schestowitz | [16:49] <schestowitz> basically | Dec 18 16:50 |
| schestowitz | [16:49] <schestowitz> An open debate there about granting money to married couples | Dec 18 16:50 |
| schestowitz | [16:49] <schestowitz> and with kids too | Dec 18 16:50 |
| schestowitz | [16:49] <schestowitz> To do something they were eager to fdo anyway | Dec 18 16:50 |
| schestowitz | [16:49] <schestowitz> Incentivising population growth | Dec 18 16:50 |
| schestowitz | [16:49] <schestowitz> Rather than taxing the rich | Dec 18 16:50 |
| schestowitz | [16:50] <schestowitz> This discredits the whole matrimonial institute more than gays | Dec 18 16:51 |
| schestowitz | [16:51] <schestowitz> And makes it just a blanket for something else | Dec 18 16:51 |
| schestowitz | [16:51] <schestowitz> My dad says he recently read some piece from a well known person who says that in 30 years marriages might become deprecated... at least in some forms as we know them today | Dec 18 16:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | "Incentivising population growth" <-- yeah, right wingers pull this shit all the time. | Dec 18 17:00 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: more soldiers | Dec 18 17:00 |
| MinceR | more slaves | Dec 18 17:00 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes | Dec 18 17:00 |
| qu1j0t3 | that too | Dec 18 17:00 |
| qu1j0t3 | was going to say :) | Dec 18 17:00 |
| MinceR | and a thicker layer of human bodies covering the planet | Dec 18 17:00 |
| MinceR | because obviously seven billion people aren't enough | Dec 18 17:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | right | Dec 18 17:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's blatantly insane | Dec 18 17:01 |
| schestowitz | I think the UK has other concerns | Dec 18 17:06 |
| schestowitz | namely that growth comes form immigration and the England(or UK)-born people do not reproduce as fast | Dec 18 17:06 |
| schestowitz | It's not just Britain actually (esp. England), Europe in general has this whole thing on the agenda | Dec 18 17:07 |
| schestowitz | The TV thing said all the obvious thing | Dec 18 17:07 |
| schestowitz | but it surprised+ me to see those arguments in the mainstream | Dec 18 17:07 |
| schestowitz | [16:13] <schestowitz> phones earlier | Dec 18 17:08 |
| schestowitz | [16:13] <schestowitz> remember thomas cook? | Dec 18 17:08 |
| schestowitz | [16:13] <schestowitz> his employer | Dec 18 17:09 |
| schestowitz | [16:13] <schestowitz> well... | Dec 18 17:09 |
| schestowitz | [16:13] <schestowitz> nuff said | Dec 18 17:09 |
| schestowitz | [16:14] <schestowitz> we'll start working on more projects... | Dec 18 17:09 |
| schestowitz | ^^ friend may have lost his job.... will start working with me tomorrow | Dec 18 17:09 |
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| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: the murdoch press promotes all that crap | Dec 18 17:30 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: racial superiority, paying people to have babies, etc. | Dec 18 17:30 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: and FUD about "declining white birth rates" | Dec 18 17:30 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: it's been a constant theme for, oh, the past 100 years | Dec 18 17:30 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/87239089 | Dec 18 17:30 |
| TechrightsSocial | @laurelrusswurm (laurelrusswurm)'s status on Sunday, 18-Dec-11 17:13:56 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Happy belated birthday, Roy! | Dec 18 17:31 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: oh, has it? | Dec 18 17:31 |
| schestowitz | so it's untrue? | Dec 18 17:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes | Dec 18 17:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | untrue? | Dec 18 17:31 |
| schestowitz | Like stats from Europe? | Dec 18 17:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | what part? | Dec 18 17:31 |
| schestowitz | kids per family | Dec 18 17:31 |
| schestowitz | maybe the immigration part of the incittaion | Dec 18 17:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | you can disregard anythign that talks about relative rates between whites and non-whites/immigrants | Dec 18 17:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | as simple racist agenda | Dec 18 17:31 |
| schestowitz | right | Dec 18 17:31 |
| schestowitz | thanjks | Dec 18 17:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | true or not, it's like measuring crime rates between whites and blacks | Dec 18 17:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's numbers used to justify all kinds of immoral conclusions and agendas | Dec 18 17:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | and you'll find that the murdoch press focuses on such things | Dec 18 17:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | the murdoch press also creates the notion of 'natural owners' of the country | Dec 18 17:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | i.e. the blue bloods | Dec 18 17:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | and their symbolic figureheads | Dec 18 17:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's a wonderful way of keeping the pump primed for war | Dec 18 17:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | egalitarianism and tolerance are the plutocracy's enemy | Dec 18 17:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | same thing happens in colonial nations | Dec 18 17:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | there's a segment of the press that just puts out a constant stream of propaganda to reinforce the 'natural ownership', nationalism, all in service of the agenda. | Dec 18 17:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | of course it's the same thing that we remember from 1930s Europe hahaheheah | Dec 18 17:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | but it never stopped | Dec 18 17:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | and now we have westerners saying things like 'crime is genetic' | Dec 18 17:35 |
| qu1j0t3 | (no shit; I've heard rich white americans assert this recently) | Dec 18 17:35 |
| qu1j0t3 | (let the record state I no longer work for these people) | Dec 18 17:35 |
| qu1j0t3 | and now they believe terrorism is genetic | Dec 18 17:36 |
| qu1j0t3 | only brown people can be terrorists ----- all the same narrative. | Dec 18 17:36 |
| qu1j0t3 | so, "more whites means a safer world for You and Your Precious CHildren" | Dec 18 17:36 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/148452024491589632?iid=am-133564127713242286956176973&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208 | Dec 18 17:36 |
| TechrightsSocial | @qu1j0t3: @schestowitz Same here: Happy birthday. via @laurelrusswurm | Dec 18 17:36 |
| schestowitz | cheers mate | Dec 18 17:36 |
| qu1j0t3 | :) | Dec 18 17:36 |
| schestowitz | [17:32] <qu1j0t3> the murdoch press also creates the notion of 'natural owners' of the country | Dec 18 17:37 |
| schestowitz | Like Germans who came to the US in the 30s? | Dec 18 17:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | well any notion of natural owner is very foggy and invented | Dec 18 17:37 |
| schestowitz | Unlike the "African Americans" who were there for ages longer? | Dec 18 17:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | and built the place | Dec 18 17:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | same in brazil | Dec 18 17:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | colonials keep a close hold on all capital | Dec 18 17:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | yet, the country was built by slaves from Africa on the bones of dead natives | Dec 18 17:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | ditto australia, NZ | Dec 18 17:38 |
| qu1j0t3 | Canada | Dec 18 17:38 |
| qu1j0t3 | and in all places there is this narrative going on | Dec 18 17:38 |
| schestowitz | that's old stuff... so it's OK :-) | Dec 18 17:38 |
| qu1j0t3 | that is supposed to 'invent' and reinforce the notion of a white natural ownership. | Dec 18 17:38 |
| qu1j0t3 | which is ludicrous | Dec 18 17:38 |
| qu1j0t3 | yet it's going on constantly, unceasing for 200, 400 years | Dec 18 17:38 |
| schestowitz | "Invading America" | Dec 18 17:38 |
| schestowitz | to chase the invaders? | Dec 18 17:38 |
| schestowitz | which era? | Dec 18 17:38 |
| schestowitz | Spanish exploration? | Dec 18 17:39 |
| schestowitz | British? | Dec 18 17:39 |
| qu1j0t3 | depends on the country | Dec 18 17:39 |
| qu1j0t3 | the only country that properly resisted was India | Dec 18 17:39 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/148435553912750081?iid=am-1618412813242250027414095&nid=6+status_timestamp&uid=26603208 | Dec 18 17:39 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz: Executive Director of The Economic Opportunity Institute Slams #Microsoft for Not Paying Tax http://t.co/YFJtkmBE #tax | Dec 18 17:39 |
| TechrightsSocial | @: | Dec 18 17:39 |
| schestowitz | India is vast | Dec 18 17:39 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes | Dec 18 17:39 |
| schestowitz | big population | Dec 18 17:39 |
| qu1j0t3 | and already embedded in a continent, and developed. | Dec 18 17:40 |
| schestowitz | unlike First People | Dec 18 17:40 |
| qu1j0t3 | right | Dec 18 17:40 |
| schestowitz | or Aboriginals | Dec 18 17:40 |
| qu1j0t3 | there's a strategic difference, and the English were routed | Dec 18 17:40 |
| qu1j0t3 | in brazil, the colonials are portuguese of courts. | Dec 18 17:40 |
| qu1j0t3 | course* | Dec 18 17:40 |
| schestowitz | mutiny | Dec 18 17:40 |
| qu1j0t3 | the history of the portuguese monarchy in brazil is... wild and disturbing. | Dec 18 17:40 |
| schestowitz | now portuggal is perceived as tender | Dec 18 17:41 |
| schestowitz | land of fish | Dec 18 17:41 |
| schestowitz | dutch were market leaders in sl,avery | Dec 18 17:41 |
| schestowitz | now windmill,s wooden shoes, and pot | Dec 18 17:41 |
| schestowitz | all peace and stuff | Dec 18 17:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | hahahahahahahhahaah | Dec 18 17:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | and Belgians??? | Dec 18 17:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | Congo | Dec 18 17:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | holy crap | Dec 18 17:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | Brit, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Belgians, ... no wonder the germans felt left out. | Dec 18 17:43 |
| schestowitz | begium=chocolate and EU governance now | Dec 18 17:59 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/87240912 | Dec 18 18:05 |
| TechrightsSocial | @ØاÙØ© foonetic (lnxwalt280) (lnxwalt280) ÙÙ ÙÙÙ Sunday, 18-Dec-11 17:46:01 UTC - 280: @schestowitz Happy birthday, a day later. | Dec 18 18:05 |
| schestowitz | heh | Dec 18 18:05 |
| schestowitz | > Hi, Roy, | Dec 18 18:40 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 18 18:40 |
| schestowitz | > The Finnish program Arto Nyberg has an interview with the Microsoft | Dec 18 18:40 |
| schestowitz | > Mole, Elop: | Dec 18 18:41 |
| schestowitz | > http://ohjelmat.yle.fi/artonyberg/etusivu | Dec 18 18:41 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 18 18:41 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: artonyberg | yle.fi .::. Size~: 21.6 KB | Dec 18 18:41 |
| schestowitz | > It's mostly a bunch of business-speak and dodging questions. Most of | Dec 18 18:41 |
| schestowitz | > it is in English.` | Dec 18 18:41 |
| schestowitz | A friend from Finland sent me a kit for random number generation. I will play with it over Xmas, between me doing some Novell, Gates, and Cablegate catchup. Finns are good people, so it shocks me that someone Finnish decided to become another Taylor-Hilf-Ramji-like minion for Ballmer. Elop did some damage to companies before he joined Nokia. What are his technical qualifications? | Dec 18 18:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | "Finns are good people" | Dec 18 18:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | hmmmmmmmmmm | Dec 18 18:41 |
| schestowitz | bad points? | Dec 18 18:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | it;s a pretty weird premise | Dec 18 18:42 |
| schestowitz | Attacked by Stalin.. | Dec 18 18:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | right, I was about to say: aren't Georgians good people too? | Dec 18 18:42 |
| schestowitz | Can't think of them oppressing much in recent history | Dec 18 18:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: I don't think you can infer much from this! | Dec 18 18:42 |
| schestowitz | Right, but that was not my point | Dec 18 18:42 |
| schestowitz | It was badly put | Dec 18 18:43 |
| schestowitz | I like Finnish people but hate Elop | Dec 18 18:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | it would be better to cite examples where Finnish culture had resisted criminal capitalism | Dec 18 18:43 |
| schestowitz | actually, I don't hate him... he's like a chubby puppy | Dec 18 18:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | *culture* can be described | Dec 18 18:43 |
| schestowitz | Linus' dad was pro communism | Dec 18 18:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: speaking of Finns | Dec 18 18:44 |
| schestowitz | he also visited Russia | Dec 18 18:44 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: last night i was watching a bit of "into eternity". | Dec 18 18:44 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: about nuclear waste disposal in Finland | Dec 18 18:44 |
| schestowitz | worked as a journalist IIRC back when it was acceptable to openly support communism in Europe, to a degree | Dec 18 18:44 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: you shoudl watch it if you like documentaries | Dec 18 18:44 |
| MinceR | i hate puppies too | Dec 18 18:44 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: Hitchens was a CP member, as was Martin Amis iirc. | Dec 18 18:44 |
| schestowitz | they are not at fault | Dec 18 18:44 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: famously... | Dec 18 18:44 |
| schestowitz | the puppeies | Dec 18 18:44 |
| schestowitz | just born | Dec 18 18:44 |
| schestowitz | cubs domesticated | Dec 18 18:45 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: he still said Comrades | Dec 18 18:45 |
| schestowitz | About Elop: | Dec 18 18:46 |
| schestowitz | > He came into the new job while I was out sick for a few months so I did | Dec 18 18:46 |
| schestowitz | > not follow the news. As far as I know, he has no qualifications. (The | Dec 18 18:46 |
| schestowitz | > previous head of YLE didn't have any qualifications either.) Someone | Dec 18 18:46 |
| schestowitz | > that was following the news back then might know. | Dec 18 18:46 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 18 18:47 |
| XFaCE | qu1j0t3: Totally off topic, but why don't you enter #techrights as well? It's a party! | Dec 18 18:47 |
| schestowitz | > Word on the street is that Nokia is done for and the share price | Dec 18 18:47 |
| schestowitz | > reflects that opinion. They are also embittered over the mass firings | Dec 18 18:47 |
| schestowitz | > and forced departures. | Dec 18 18:47 |
| schestowitz | The pride of Finnish IT down in Microsoft flames. | Dec 18 18:47 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: The pride of any IT is destroyed with Microsoft Invisible Touch. | Dec 18 18:47 |
| XFaCE | *the | Dec 18 18:47 |
| schestowitz | > More than just IT, it was the pride of Finnish industry, perhaps even | Dec 18 18:56 |
| schestowitz | > more so than the paper mills. It's a walking corpse now. | Dec 18 18:56 |
| schestowitz | And it's not as though the IT talent of Finland can find much employment opportunities elsewhere in Europe when nations like P.I.G.S. nearly declare bankruptcy. | Dec 18 18:56 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Come to Canada, we deperately need some IT boost | Dec 18 19:04 |
| XFaCE | *speaking to the finnish IT people | Dec 18 19:04 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Canada is the definition of a sad IT sector story | Dec 18 19:04 |
| XFaCE | Though I don't think Microsoft played a key role here, we had our own corrupt corps to do that | Dec 18 19:05 |
| schestowitz | Delighted to hear it. On my 3 screen I watch 10,000+ photos, changing every 20 seconds. I love plasma-desktop. | Dec 18 19:06 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: FOSS skills are ok for the UK | Dec 18 19:06 |
| schestowitz | There's a need for that, people are MSheads | Dec 18 19:06 |
| schestowitz | today I got some bad news though | Dec 18 19:06 |
| schestowitz | some idiot client decided to change the site | Dec 18 19:06 |
| schestowitz | So I cannot show it in my portfolio I think | Dec 18 19:07 |
| schestowitz | But another is having that migrated to | Dec 18 19:07 |
| XFaCE | explain? | Dec 18 19:07 |
| qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: oh I used to hang in there sometimes | Dec 18 19:07 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: I made a site for two clinicians | Dec 18 19:07 |
| schestowitz | and they got into a fight | Dec 18 19:07 |
| schestowitz | and split up | Dec 18 19:07 |
| schestowitz | one took the site | Dec 18 19:07 |
| qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: but I'm too political for that chan, on the whole... tends to lead it off topic. | Dec 18 19:07 |
| schestowitz | nothing to do with me | Dec 18 19:07 |
| schestowitz | but they quarrel over the domain and stuff | Dec 18 19:07 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: not too political for it | Dec 18 19:08 |
| schestowitz | Used to cover a lot of Novell in the early days | Dec 18 19:08 |
| schestowitz | now the #boycottnovell channel is a bit deprecated, as Novell is, well.... dead | Dec 18 19:08 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Should turn it into a band name | Dec 18 19:13 |
| XFaCE | "Hi, I'm Roy, and this is my band. We are... BOYCOTT NOVELL" | Dec 18 19:13 |
| schestowitz | No, I dont' carry this flag | Dec 18 19:13 |
| XFaCE | "and here is BOYCOTT NOVELL with their self-title hit single" | Dec 18 19:13 |
| schestowitz | That's shane's site name anyway | Dec 18 19:14 |
| XFaCE | shane? | Dec 18 19:14 |
| schestowitz | some people who interview me on stuff still associate me with that site | Dec 18 19:14 |
| schestowitz | maybe cause I posted for ages under this banner | Dec 18 19:14 |
| schestowitz | "Boycott" is not a good term to be associated with | Dec 18 19:14 |
| MinceR | neither is "Novell" :> | Dec 18 19:14 |
| schestowitz | by the way, I got a 20% payrise this month | Dec 18 19:14 |
| schestowitz | and other benefits, which is kind of funny because the trolls were always trying to damage my career and pretend there were problems in it | Dec 18 19:15 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: Novell will be like Corel in 5 years | Dec 18 19:16 |
| schestowitz | "Who?" | Dec 18 19:16 |
| schestowitz | Exactly! | Dec 18 19:16 |
| schestowitz | "Corel?" | Dec 18 19:16 |
| schestowitz | "Did they do reefs?" | Dec 18 19:16 |
| schestowitz | it's like showing a diskette to a kid today | Dec 18 19:16 |
| schestowitz | you go | Dec 18 19:16 |
| schestowitz | "do you know what this is?" | Dec 18 19:16 |
| schestowitz | And they go | Dec 18 19:16 |
| schestowitz | "Bitch please! It's the save button." | Dec 18 19:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | 'Join us and the ScriptumLibre.org Foundation in raising awareness for the boycott of all products and services sold by Trend Micro. The proprietary software company Trend Micro has filed a patent infringement lawsuit against Barracuda Networks. They claim that Barracuda is violating their patent by distributing the free software antivirus program ClamAV. | Dec 18 19:19 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: 20% pay rise! wow. | Dec 18 19:19 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Corel :P | Dec 18 19:20 |
| XFaCE | I guess Microsoft did play a role in the Canadian IT downfall | Dec 18 19:20 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: I wrote about this like 3 times | Dec 18 19:20 |
| schestowitz | They didn't go far | Dec 18 19:21 |
| schestowitz | They made like 1 or 2 posts IIRC, then let it fade | Dec 18 19:21 |
| schestowitz | BN was a daily hammer on Novell's coffin | Dec 18 19:21 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft's coffin is a lot larger, but even if we can make a small dent, that would count | Dec 18 19:21 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft was a lot scarier in 1999 and then again in 2009 or so... now it's not the same. In Oct. 2010 and Dec. 2010 I spent days going through MS news and decided that there was not much left to see there except the patent attacks | Dec 18 19:22 |
| schestowitz | Apple soon became a bigger problem, followed by the Oracle lawsuit which I suspect is Ellison's tribute to his fellow dead sociopath | Dec 18 19:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | MS hasn't changed | Dec 18 19:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | the problem is that now we have to worry about Gates ex-MS | Dec 18 19:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | since he's the real criminal mind | Dec 18 19:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | harder to track | Dec 18 19:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | and more damaging | Dec 18 19:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | like Palin out of governorship | Dec 18 19:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | "how can i fuck things up more effectively? get out of public office" | Dec 18 19:24 |
| schestowitz | I have a post about Gates coming tomorrow | Dec 18 19:26 |
| schestowitz | they already have to hide a lot | Dec 18 19:26 |
| schestowitz | because activists speak out in opposition to his propaganda machine | Dec 18 19:26 |
| schestowitz | hmm... just found a former colleague http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=66664179 | Dec 18 19:29 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Sign In | LinkedIn .::. Size~: 19.42 KB | Dec 18 19:29 |
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| schestowitz | When I come to think of it, I haven't had to reboot this machine since like March... there was an outage once since then, caused by me. | Dec 18 19:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | :) | Dec 18 19:57 |
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| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: http://daggle.com/closed-unfriendly-world-wikipedia-2853 | Dec 18 20:45 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: The Closed, Unfriendly World Of Wikipedia .::. Size~: 127.61 KB | Dec 18 20:45 |
| MinceR | maybe someone needs to fork wikipedia | Dec 18 20:50 |
| schestowitz | http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=TCG.L#symbol=tcg.l;range=3m;compare=;indicator=volume;charttype=area;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=off;source=; | Dec 18 20:52 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: THOMAS COOK GRP Share Price Chart | TCG.L - Yahoo! UK & Ireland Finance .::. Size~: 42.84 KB | Dec 18 20:52 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: it's a hard problem | Dec 18 20:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | not quite as hard as they make it | Dec 18 20:53 |
| schestowitz | managing an /influential/ source of info without it turning to trash | Dec 18 20:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's turning to trash _because of_ the curation | Dec 18 20:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | look at the blind leading the blind example in that rant | Dec 18 20:53 |
| schestowitz | skimped it | Dec 18 20:55 |
| schestowitz | it's a long post, with links | Dec 18 20:56 |
| schestowitz | read all the headings | Dec 18 20:56 |
| schestowitz | trying lxde on debian atm | Dec 18 21:32 |
| schestowitz | [20:05] < > hello Roy | Dec 18 21:32 |
| schestowitz | [20:07] < > I received your email regarding the survey project | Dec 18 21:32 |
| schestowitz | [20:08] < > I'm interested | Dec 18 21:32 |
| schestowitz | [20:45] <schestowitz> cool, I will give more info soon | Dec 18 21:32 |
| schestowitz | [21:05] < > ok | Dec 18 21:32 |
| schestowitz | [21:05] < > quick question | Dec 18 21:32 |
| schestowitz | [21:06] < > do you have java compiler installed in your computer? | Dec 18 21:32 |
| schestowitz | [21:06] < > example: netbeans | Dec 18 21:32 |
| schestowitz | [21:13] <schestowitz> no, it's simple to install in linux though | Dec 18 21:32 |
| schestowitz | [21:21] < > yes | Dec 18 21:32 |
| schestowitz | [21:23] < > I have in other distributions of linux, like ubuntu and mint, but for some reason its not been so easy with kubuntu | Dec 18 21:32 |
| schestowitz | [21:28] <schestowitz> mint is fantastic | Dec 18 21:32 |
| schestowitz | [21:28] <schestowitz> my sister uses it | Dec 18 21:32 |
| schestowitz | [21:29] <schestowitz> i am patching up my debian box at the moment, it takes ages | Dec 18 21:32 |
| schestowitz | [21:29] < > I like mint too | Dec 18 21:33 |
| schestowitz | [21:29] < > it was very easy to install software in it | Dec 18 21:33 |
| schestowitz | [21:30] < > but I like kubuntu too | Dec 18 21:33 |
| schestowitz | [21:30] < > well the graphical side of it | Dec 18 21:33 |
| schestowitz | [21:30] <schestowitz> that's my favourite | Dec 18 21:33 |
| schestowitz | [21:30] <schestowitz> i experimented with everything over the years, kde has features that no other OS had got | Dec 18 21:33 |
| schestowitz |  | Dec 18 21:33 |
| schestowitz | [21:31] < > thats true | Dec 18 21:33 |
| schestowitz | < > I'm more in the process of experimenting with some | Dec 18 21:33 |
| MinceR | the best part of mint? they did the same trick to banshee that canonical did but nobody seems to mind | Dec 18 21:33 |
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| schestowitz | yeah, cause clem is not benevolent dictator for life or whatever mark S calls himself | Dec 18 21:51 |
| schestowitz | < > now I'm thinking about going back to mint, coz if it's easy of installing | Dec 18 21:51 |
| MinceR | people need to get over their fanaticism for mint | Dec 18 21:53 |
| schestowitz | i'd rather see it grow | Dec 18 21:53 |
| schestowitz | it shrinks canonical ego | Dec 18 21:53 |
| MinceR | i'd rather see less braindamaged distros grow, like fedora | Dec 18 22:01 |
| MinceR | maybe then these people would finally get the message | Dec 18 22:01 |
| schestowitz | > Did you follow any of Christopher Hitchen's writings or diatribes? | Dec 18 22:14 |
| schestowitz | > He had an absolutely brilliant mind in the mould of Gore Vidal or William F. | Dec 18 22:14 |
| schestowitz | > Buckley. I disagreed with some of his positions but admired his erudition | Dec 18 22:14 |
| schestowitz | > and poise in debate. | Dec 18 22:14 |
| schestowitz | Christopher Hitchen became known to me owing to his work on the atheist community. It's almost the only aspect of his work that I cared about. | Dec 18 22:14 |
| schestowitz | > He was revered by many; sadly he died this past week. | Dec 18 22:15 |
| schestowitz | He can in part blame his lifestyle for that. He looked young for his age, but smoking and boozing are risky habits. | Dec 18 22:15 |
| MinceR | i read god is not Great, and it's a great book | Dec 18 22:16 |
| schestowitz | Better than the bible? | Dec 18 22:17 |
| schestowitz | Even in secular Britain people are smart to duck questions about atheism | Dec 18 22:18 |
| schestowitz | Some days ago I was told, | Dec 18 22:18 |
| schestowitz | that if you don't believe in anything, you don't have morals | Dec 18 22:18 |
| schestowitz | I shut up | Dec 18 22:18 |
| schestowitz | For a change | Dec 18 22:18 |
| schestowitz | didn't want to start an argument | Dec 18 22:18 |
| schestowitz | religion poisons everything | Dec 18 22:19 |
| MinceR | what isn't better than the bible? | Dec 18 22:20 |
| MinceR | even a telephone directory is more interesting | Dec 18 22:20 |
| MinceR | and more consistent | Dec 18 22:20 |
| MinceR | and has more truth to its contents | Dec 18 22:20 |
| MinceR | occasionally i read parts of that tripe | Dec 18 22:20 |
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