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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1065212 "The Elance application you have to use if you do a per hour job, demands Oracle Java :| Haven't tried symlinking over to openJDK yet and seeing if it works. I'm not feeling quite brave enough to put the income of an entire job on the line figuring out if it's ok or not...."Dec 20 08:38
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sebsebsebWho's libertybox_ ?Dec 20 11:55
MinceR(javascript) http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2009/04/15/the_land_of_no_smilesDec 20 12:21
TechrightsSocialTitle: Photo Essay: The Land of No Smiles - By Tomas van Houtryve | Foreign Policy .::. Size~: 43.13 KBDec 20 12:21
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/87391736Dec 20 15:06
TechrightsSocial@George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Dec-11 14:28:34 UTC - Identi.ca: It may be time for me to try #LXDE again; I've used it in the past and it was a decent light #Linux #desktop interface.Dec 20 15:06
schestowitzMinceR: I have some north korea musicDec 20 15:06
schestowitzCommie Funk and Agit Pop From the Hermit KingdomDec 20 15:06
qu1j0t3hmmmmmDec 20 15:07
schestowitzIt's a bit like Russian musicDec 20 15:08
schestowitzWith choirDec 20 15:08
schestowitzand the language is orientalDec 20 15:08
schestowitza medley reallyDec 20 15:09
schestowitzRadio PyongyangDec 20 15:09
schestowitzColleague is pissing me off todayDec 20 15:09
schestowitzI just emailed him thisDec 20 15:10
schestowitz"Dec 20 15:10
schestowitzYou have been a bit unreliable recently. I have not heard back since IDec 20 15:10
schestowitzlast E-mailed you and I also received no notification that you were notDec 20 15:10
schestowitzable to make it. We need to sort out the money issues soon, but let'sDec 20 15:10
schestowitzensure we are able to communicate well on whether we can attend aDec 20 15:10
schestowitzmeeting or not. I canceled other plans that I had in order to reach aDec 20 15:10
schestowitzmeeting I thought we had scheduled.Dec 20 15:10
schestowitz""Dec 20 15:10
schestowitzidentica is back, time to post some news thoughDec 20 15:10
schestowitzturns out he had an emergency flight to Finland (he's a pilot). He phones to apologise minutes ago...Dec 20 15:38
qu1j0t3apologiseDec 20 15:49
qu1j0t3whyDec 20 15:49
qu1j0t3clearly You are the Weakest Link schestowitzDec 20 15:49
schestowitzI don't get it...Dec 20 15:50
schestowitzWell, not the weakest linkDec 20 15:50
schestowitzBut either way, he always has excuses... I've known him for a decadeDec 20 15:50
qu1j0t3he was stressed? bad mood? ...Dec 20 15:50
schestowitzyeahDec 20 16:02
schestowitzRupert tells us that Korea is bad and Jobs is great.Dec 20 16:02
schestowitz:-)Dec 20 16:02
schestowitz"In the Western media, denouncing the dead Korean leader upon his death is popular, unlike Jobs'. One is a communist, another a capitalist." -meDec 20 16:02
qu1j0t3sighDec 20 16:02
schestowitzRespect for the dead is relativeDec 20 16:02
schestowitzOsama ... think about itDec 20 16:02
schestowitzObama says you need to"have your head examined" if you opposed the assassinationDec 20 16:03
qu1j0t3rightDec 20 16:03
qu1j0t3butDec 20 16:03
schestowitzassassination=GODDDec 20 16:03
qu1j0t3an excellent quote is this:Dec 20 16:03
schestowitz"Not good? What are you, degraded?"Dec 20 16:03
schestowitzBut it's reversed in 9/11Dec 20 16:03
schestowitzIf you're Bobby fFisher saying that the US deserves this, then you're labeled crazyDec 20 16:03
qu1j0t3http://cspangeek.com/2011/12/lindsey-graham-want-a-lawyer-shut-up/Dec 20 16:04
TechrightsSocialTitle: Lindsey Graham: Want a lawyer? Shut up.  | C-SPAN geek .::. Size~: 54.48 KBDec 20 16:04
qu1j0t3^^ this is a good summary of what we are dealing with.Dec 20 16:04
schestowitzUS politics makes me sickDec 20 16:05
schestowitzBritish ain't as badDec 20 16:05
schestowitzand people get elected who in my experience have more intellect, not preaching to the faithheads and racistsDec 20 16:05
qu1j0t3British is superficially not as bad, but the same people are in power. Same for Australia, Canada.Dec 20 16:06
qu1j0t3Blair, schestowitzDec 20 16:06
qu1j0t3the worst Dec 20 16:06
schestowitzhe was a faithheadDec 20 16:06
qu1j0t3so are your current figureheadsDec 20 16:07
qu1j0t3schestowitz: remember, where religion is concerned, tokenism counts just as much as convictionDec 20 16:07
qu1j0t3and Blair's conviction is worthless anyway.Dec 20 16:07
qu1j0t3the only conviction he should have is from the ICCDec 20 16:07
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/770645 "Makes no sense. Once it is installed you still have to do a lot of customization. The idea of making it faster to get a crashed system up makes it nice. Also sometimes you just don't get the initial install right."Dec 20 16:52
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1066900 "Puppy might not be ideal for a total noob, but it is pretty user friendly and shouldn't require any command line magic. Just see what works for you. " "Yeah, I've been trying out Puppy Linux too. If you can get it on a flash drive, it loads up pretty quickly, runs VERY quickly and doesn't require anything command line. It stores everything in memory so it's very fast"Dec 20 16:53
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schestowitz"The weather wallpaper is really cool. " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1070362Dec 20 16:54
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schestowitzNow I just need to wait for better days.. for the wallpaper to be less depressing :-)Dec 20 16:56
schestowitz"Dec 20 17:21
schestowitzPuppy is good for quick things but I would not try to run a business with it. People manage with Windows, so anything is possible, but business people are better off getting help from a competent IT person who knows and can set up appropriate and specialized applications. Even the simplest of business people are better off with good contact managers, such as provided by KDE, or a CRM as CiviCRM.Dec 20 17:21
schestowitzhttp://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/will-sprint-for-freedom-report-from-the-nyc-civicrm-code-sprintDec 20 17:21
schestowitz"Dec 20 17:21
TechrightsSocialTitle: Will sprint for freedom: Report from the NYC CiviCRM code sprint — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 29.89 KBDec 20 17:21
schestowitz"He doesn't really need a lot of specialized stuff. Excel, Word, mailing and possibly some program that's for writing bills and managing those and such (he's currently trying one but went well without it so far). It's that just that old PC gets really slow, which is mostly bothering during startup and when browsing the web. Of course he's contemplating just buying a new computer, but even then I could probably talk him into Dec 20 17:21
schestowitzLinux."Dec 20 17:21
qu1j0t3!!Dec 20 17:24
qu1j0t3'Hitchens was affirming rather than challenging an elite consensus when, on behalf of atheism, he mocked religious believers as not merely mistaken but contemptible and moronic. The religious are despised and dreaded by upscale Americans, and their British court jester could say what they dare not say themselves — although candidate Barack Obama came close in 2008, when he psychoanalyzed Dec 20 17:42
qu1j0t3the white working class for the benefit of billionaire donors behind closed doors: “And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”Dec 20 17:42
qu1j0t3... omitting to mention that these working-class obsessions are manufactured :)Dec 20 17:43
MinceRevidently, the religious are not despised or dreaded enough in the usaDec 20 17:45
MinceRif they were, making a big show of being christian wouldn't be a necessity for a career in politics and children wouldn't be brainwashed into considering creationism a scientific theoryDec 20 17:46
qu1j0t3apparently the 'elites' are secular. which shouldn't surprise us really, because religion has always been meant as a potent means of manipulation.Dec 20 18:00
schestowitz"I sver on ze bibble"Dec 20 18:01
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schestowitzqu1j0t3: speaking to someone from the Philippines:Dec 20 20:00
schestowitz>       yes it is so sad to think when I saw our countrymen suffered fromDec 20 20:00
schestowitz> disasterDec 20 20:00
schestowitz>  struck by typhoon and the flash flood.Dec 20 20:00
schestowitzThe Western world does not mourn much. The West only cares when rich "white people" die. I think it's a cultural illness in the West, and one that won't be cured imminently. Had that been a place like Louisiana, they would send in helicopters from all corners of the world to reduce death toll. Actually, given the aftermath of hurricane Katrina, I guess the US would have to be the exception here because it does not care much Dec 20 20:00
schestowitzfor its citizens. If you recall Katrina (2004 IIRC), what the US government did was take care of the rich people, but since many of the affected people were Africa-American the government just neglected them, sent out mercenaries, and in some case shot them. Saving lives is a complicated thing and the hypocrisy on this is a subject my dad knows very well about.Dec 20 20:00
qu1j0t3schestowitz: Pakistan floodsDec 20 20:02
qu1j0t3schestowitz: much larger than the Philippines. nobody in the West noticed.Dec 20 20:02
schestowitz"Dec 20 20:04
schestowitz> just imagine a sudden flash flood that nobody has expected  it thatDec 20 20:04
schestowitz> will  happenedDec 20 20:04
schestowitz> for more than a decade the last time struck by typhoon.Dec 20 20:04
schestowitzGlobal warming may contribute to that and a lot of the disaster is preventable, as Japan proved to an extent. But it is a matter of wealth and not a matter of preparation or goodwill. Manila, for instance, will not received the understructure that can improve life there unless he (or she) who lays down the foundation can somehow make a profit from it. Today's extreme capitalism prioritises self interest and not commonwealth. Dec 20 20:04
schestowitzThose natural disaster (not purely natural because we indirectly cause them) affect regions near the equators a little more, but since the world's superpowers are far from that latitude/longitude most affected, there will be no incentive (or symbolic incentive at best) to address the problem at the core, at the cost of personal sacrifice to modern lifestyle.Dec 20 20:04
schestowitz"Dec 20 20:04
schestowitzqu1j0t3: makes senseDec 20 20:04
schestowitzin factDec 20 20:04
schestowitzI recon many in the West will celeberate thisDec 20 20:05
schestowitzwe already know that the West does not value Pakistani lifeDec 20 20:05
schestowitzAs much as carpet-bombing goesDec 20 20:05
qu1j0t3dronesDec 20 20:05
schestowitzthey value the bombs and their cost moreDec 20 20:05
qu1j0t3"Drones are better for the environment"Dec 20 20:05
schestowitz"damn! I waste two bombs on this toddler"Dec 20 20:05
qu1j0t3"I could have just used a few machine gun rounds"Dec 20 20:05
qu1j0t3"Bonus if I can get 3 family members with 1 bullet"Dec 20 20:06
MinceRlolDec 20 20:07
MinceR"Multi-Kill!"Dec 20 20:07
schestowitz"Dec 20 20:09
schestowitz>       actually, more or less 8-hours to travel away from our city proper.Dec 20 20:09
schestowitz> thanks God there are   no relatives of mine living nearby.Dec 20 20:09
schestowitzThere are man-made remedies that can probably mitigate the issues, such as those water barriers that Japan created at great cost to its citizens. Shelter facilities too can help.Dec 20 20:09
schestowitzThe real solution is to try to address the problem at home, as I often explain to people. Saying stuff like, "we do them a favour by sending them helicopters or paying them X wage" is hardly a solution of economic injustice. Trying to find a way to resolve the anomalies in lifestyle goes a long way, but not many people are eager enough to actually put their money where their mouth is. Dec 20 20:09
schestowitz"Dec 20 20:09
schestowitzqu1j0t3: sounds like what the Nazis did in the death campsDec 20 20:09
schestowitzthe bullet thingDec 20 20:09
qu1j0t3schestowitz: the solution to poverty is billionaires making investments in education!!!!!!11!1!!11!!!!!!!!!Dec 20 20:11
*qu1j0t3 gigglesDec 20 20:11
schestowitz"Dec 20 20:11
schestowitz>    I do pray for me as well as my family to  keep away from harm.Dec 20 20:11
schestowitz>        ok, Roy, you may relax  for a while ! I know you are always busy ~_~Dec 20 20:11
schestowitzI am never too busy for matters of great importance. Maybe I have grown a little too cynical of things around me, but for me to ignore them is not to be myself, in which case I become a mere drone in a society that does not care for peers.Dec 20 20:11
schestowitz"Dec 20 20:11
schestowitz"Dec 20 20:13
schestowitz>    I do pray for me as well as my family to  keep away from harm.Dec 20 20:13
schestowitz>        ok, Roy, you may relax  for a while ! I know you are always busy ~_~Dec 20 20:13
schestowitzI am never too busy for matters of great importance. Maybe I have grown a little too cynical of things around me, but for me to ignore them is not to be myself, in which case I become a mere drone in a society that does not care for peers.Dec 20 20:13
schestowitzcrapDec 20 20:13
schestowitzwrong pasteDec 20 20:13
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1072772Dec 20 20:13
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schestowitz"proprietary sh*t"Dec 20 20:13
schestowitzThe cigs you can set fire to Dec 20 20:13
schestowitzAnd they never explodeDec 20 20:13
schestowitzunlike hypePhoneDec 20 20:13
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schestowitz"I form my own opinion on North Korea rather than let Rupe tell me, which I guess makes me a "bad" citizen. :/"Dec 20 21:04
qu1j0t3rightDec 20 21:05
qu1j0t3how ironicDec 20 21:05
qu1j0t3talking about propaganda and controlDec 20 21:05
qu1j0t3Rupe is as effective as any KimDec 20 21:05
qu1j0t3schestowitz: remember we've always been at war with EastasiaDec 20 21:06
schestowitzyeah, exactlyDec 20 21:10
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