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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1087417 | Dec 26 15:48 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 26 15:48 |
| schestowitz | It is funny, how self-important the desktop/hom/personal computer market has become. All that operating system talk we read on the internet actually covers only a few percent of the IT industry. | Dec 26 15:48 |
| schestowitz | We have a huge number of java applications running in our company, because they have to run on different platforms. We rewrote a few of them in C++ and Python to see how much faster the native binary ran, when there was no virtual machine or interpreter in between. That might not matter on the desktop (fast, expensive machines) most of the time, but I am amazed what can be done on an Adroid device, if the process does not | Dec 26 15:48 |
| schestowitz | have to run through Dalvik. | Dec 26 15:48 |
| schestowitz | Basically all the comfort we built up over the last 10 years, from clean and fast to feature rich and well integrated interfaces, currently runs through the same process again, just less integrated and in the browser. I hope I'll see the day, when they manage to let you run web applications seamlessly integrated into whatever local system you run, without giving up the sandbox security of web browsers. | Dec 26 15:48 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 26 15:48 |
| TechrightsSocial | @: | Dec 26 15:49 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1087417 | Dec 26 15:49 |
| schestowitz | "You should also deny mating with Apple users. It's time IT and eugenics find together." | Dec 26 15:49 |
| schestowitz | Boycott are intended to change a company's negative spirit/methodology, it's not about users. | Dec 26 15:49 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1094916 | Dec 26 15:49 |
| schestowitz | "There are some good products made by Apple but the problem is Apple's dictatorship on their use, apps, modifications, and like understanding of the word support." | Dec 26 15:49 |
| schestowitz | "It could be done, sadly, with the high amount of iSheep out there, is not going to be an easy task to carry out. But the company must be schooled." | Dec 26 15:50 |
| TechrightsSocial | @: | Dec 26 15:50 |
| TechrightsSocial | @: | Dec 26 15:50 |
| schestowitz | "I must have decided to boycott them sometime in the 90's. I will keep it up, in light of their recent behaviour." | Dec 26 15:50 |
| schestowitz | "How am I supposed to boycott something I've never bought or used products from? ;)" | Dec 26 15:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | LOL | Dec 26 16:08 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1094928 | Dec 26 17:17 |
| schestowitz | "As do I (bought because at one time Apple WAS much better than the alternatives, and I'd hoped that was still true). Some aspects of their HW is still better than the alternatives." | Dec 26 17:17 |
| TechrightsSocial | @: | Dec 26 17:17 |
| schestowitz | Made in the same factories as others' | Dec 26 17:17 |
| schestowitz | "Thanks Roy." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1094883 | Dec 26 17:17 |
| TechrightsSocial | @: | Dec 26 17:17 |
| MinceR | made in the same factories, but with extra gimmicks that make them subpar and often hazardous :> | Dec 26 17:18 |
| schestowitz | I was tempted to say that, esp. the battery aspect | Dec 26 17:19 |
| MinceR | don't forget the MagUnsafe connector either :> | Dec 26 17:20 |
| schestowitz | What's that about? | Dec 26 17:21 |
| MinceR | http://switchingtomac.com/forums/index.php?topic=1474.0;wap2 | Dec 26 17:21 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: MagSafe MacBook/* - Power Connectors .::. Size~: 10.87 KB | Dec 26 17:21 |
| MinceR | http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=melting+magsafe | Dec 26 17:22 |
| MinceR | appledefects.com is down :/ | Dec 26 17:22 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: melting magsafe - Flickr: Search .::. Size~: 129.71 KB | Dec 26 17:22 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Dec 26 17:22 |
| schestowitz | SO Apple | Dec 26 17:22 |
| schestowitz | It's xmas, buy a new iToy | Dec 26 17:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes the original magsafe was a very bad design. it has been corrected now. | Dec 26 17:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | i knew many people (including my wife) who had magsafe failures | Dec 26 17:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | insufficient strain relief. i can't believe it took them so long to fix it. | Dec 26 17:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's funny, the old non-magnetic coaxial connectors don't have the problem... | Dec 26 17:36 |
| MinceR | :> | Dec 26 17:52 |
| MinceR | that's what you get when a pointless gimmick is more important than a mature design | Dec 26 17:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | it has nothing to do with the magnetica part, which is brilliant | Dec 26 17:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | it is the cable, it is the cable attachment, a very basic problem of strain relief. | Dec 26 17:53 |
| MinceR | it being a new and flawed construction has everything to do with it | Dec 26 17:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | the magsafe itself is brilliant. | Dec 26 17:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | but, the original design, badly flawed in that way | Dec 26 17:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | one would not throw out the magsafe idea to fix an unrelted issue. so the new design is fine. | Dec 26 17:54 |
| MinceR | i find it pointless | Dec 26 17:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | just odd that it took them so long. | Dec 26 17:54 |
| schestowitz | I didn't even know much about it. Maybe I should subscribe to AppleDefects | Dec 26 17:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | since the original design was very dangerous | Dec 26 17:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | i.e. lawsuit city | Dec 26 17:54 |
| schestowitz | But the site seems defective ATM. Maybe Apple took over it. | Dec 26 17:54 |
| MinceR | the design everyone else uses works fine and can't harm magnetic data storage devices and such :> | Dec 26 17:54 |
| schestowitz | "You don't have permission to access / on this server." | Dec 26 17:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | the magnet is internal, afaik. | Dec 26 17:55 |
| MinceR | the magnetic field is externally accessible nevertheless | Dec 26 17:55 |
| MinceR | otherwise it wouldn't work | Dec 26 17:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | doubtful | Dec 26 17:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | the socket is recessed quite a bit | Dec 26 17:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | and magnets have always been used elsewhere in laptops | Dec 26 17:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | latching lids, etc | Dec 26 17:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | i never corrupted a floppy around a laptop ;D | Dec 26 17:56 |
| MinceR | dunno, i don't think i've ever had a laptop with a magnetic latch | Dec 26 17:57 |
| MinceR | most of them have hooks, the tablet PC has some sort of spring, not sure about the Eee PC | Dec 26 17:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | i have seen such things... | Dec 26 17:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | sometimes the latches are magnetically operated, i.e. proximity moves the latch | Dec 26 17:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | but in any case.. the fields aren't an issue | Dec 26 17:59 |
| schestowitz | the 'official' bio? | Dec 26 18:11 |
| schestowitz | wrong channek | Dec 26 18:11 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: http://gateskeepers.civiblog.org/blog/_archives/2011/9/27/4907896.html | Dec 26 19:58 |
| schestowitz | "Ruth seems to have confused correlation and causation." | Dec 26 19:58 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Gates Keepers :: Does being rich cause giving? .::. Size~: 20.1 KB | Dec 26 19:58 |
| schestowitz | "Zuckerberg and Soros: Biggest Wealth Gainers are Philanthropically Inclined" | Dec 26 19:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | lulz | Dec 26 19:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: Coca-Cola is giving TWO MILLION DOLLARS to combat global warming, accompanied with an ad campaign featuring polar bears. Blatant greenwashing. | Dec 26 20:00 |
| qu1j0t3 | two million dollars. | Dec 26 20:00 |
| qu1j0t3 | probably much less than the ad placements cost. | Dec 26 20:00 |
| schestowitz | "Waiter, I'll have another Coke{tm}" | Dec 26 20:02 |
| qu1j0t3 | the audience has been trained to be uncritical. Coke 1, environment -1 | Dec 26 20:02 |
| schestowitz | I had a chat about this over the phone today | Dec 26 20:02 |
| schestowitz | How the media makes people resistant to logic | Dec 26 20:02 |
| schestowitz | The context was, someone who could not talk about anything other than money | Dec 26 20:03 |
| schestowitz | and then I said, right, he is... but then again, you can't talk about politics unless it suits the dogma of Rupert Murcdoch | Dec 26 20:03 |
| qu1j0t3 | right. murdoch frames acceptable positions. | Dec 26 20:03 |
| schestowitz | And proved my case by putting her off while explaining some simple truisms | Dec 26 20:03 |
| schestowitz | what's bad is that a lot of the public adores rather than suspects the super-wealthy | Dec 26 20:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes | Dec 26 20:04 |
| schestowitz | the goal is not to *be* like them, it is to check what they actually do to society | Dec 26 20:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | this is also media reinforced | Dec 26 20:04 |
| schestowitz | "job creators" LOL | Dec 26 20:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | media owned by rich, won't explore crimes of the rich | Dec 26 20:05 |
| schestowitz | "Bill Gates’ wealth increased by $5 billion to bring his net worth to $59 billion" | Dec 26 20:05 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's checkmate | Dec 26 20:05 |
| schestowitz | from the above link | Dec 26 20:05 |
| schestowitz | and best of all, he does not pay tax because he is, one would believe, "giving away" money. | Dec 26 20:05 |
| qu1j0t3 | LOL | Dec 26 20:05 |
| schestowitz | http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2011/09/116_95401.html | Dec 26 20:05 |
| schestowitz | "President Lee Myung-bak returned home Saturday from a trip to New York and Seattle that included speeches at the U.N. General Assembly and a high-level nuclear safety meeting, bilateral summits and a meeting with Microsoft founder Bill Gates." | Dec 26 20:05 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Lee returns home from trip to New York, Seattle .::. Size~: 66.61 KB | Dec 26 20:05 |
| schestowitz | "One wonders what Le Myung-bak's electoral constituents think of him taking 'global advice' from a nonKorean college drop out code developer?" | Dec 26 20:05 |
| schestowitz | visiting him like he is a political figure (which he is, but the public never elected him) | Dec 26 20:05 |
| schestowitz | he's rich | Dec 26 20:05 |
| schestowitz | That's a ticket to politics right there | Dec 26 20:06 |
| schestowitz | Just install your puppets, fund their campaign to represent the funder by proxy | Dec 26 20:06 |
| schestowitz | I have some gates posts in the coming weeks | Dec 26 20:06 |
| qu1j0t3 | 'college drop out code developer' <--- all irrelevant and say nothing. | Dec 26 20:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | what he is, fundamentally, is a criminal sociopath. | Dec 26 20:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | which happens to describe most of the news-making figures | Dec 26 20:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | by some ODD COINCIDENCE | Dec 26 20:08 |
| schestowitz | I heard so from other people | Dec 26 20:10 |
| schestowitz | Those who don;'t play by these rules don't survive in politics | Dec 26 20:10 |
| schestowitz |  | Dec 26 20:10 |
| schestowitz | [20:08] <qu1j0t3> 'college drop out code developer' <--- all irrelevant and say nothing. | Dec 26 20:10 |
| schestowitz | [20:08] <qu1j0t3> what he is, fundamentally, is a criminal sociopath. | Dec 26 20:10 |
| schestowitz | oops | Dec 26 20:10 |
| schestowitz | http://gateskeepers.civiblog.org/blog/_archives/2011/9/28/4909188.html | Dec 26 20:10 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Gates Keepers :: Melinda on family planning .::. Size~: 20.29 KB | Dec 26 20:10 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: yeah, gun control is a terrible idea: http://t.co/81ia7FC5 | Dec 26 20:13 |
| TechrightsSocial | @: | Dec 26 20:13 |
| schestowitz | https://seattleducation2010.wordpress.com/2011/09/29/watch-this-first-steven-brill-and-diane-ravitch-on-book-tv/ " | Dec 26 20:13 |
| schestowitz | <a href="http://gateskeepers.civiblog.org/blog/_archives/2011/9/29/4909191.html" title="Another Melinda talking head "></a> | Dec 26 20:13 |
| schestowitz | <blockquote cite="http://gateskeepers.civiblog.org/blog/_archives/2011/9/29/4909191.html"> | Dec 26 20:13 |
| schestowitz | Moonshots and Mandela. Can't lose with those images. Here is a talking head of Melinda from the Social Good Summit where hundreds of people were put in a room to listen to people talk about how good their programmes were. The audience was expected to tweet about it - manufactured consent for the networked generation. | Dec 26 20:13 |
| schestowitz | </blockquote> | Dec 26 20:13 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 26 20:13 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Watch this First: Steven Brill and Diane Ravitch on Book TV | Seattle Education .::. Size~: 452.42 KB | Dec 26 20:14 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Gates Keepers :: Another Melinda talking head .::. Size~: 17.66 KB | Dec 26 20:14 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Gates Keepers :: Another Melinda talking head .::. Size~: 17.66 KB | Dec 26 20:14 |
| qu1j0t3 | lol | Dec 26 20:21 |
| schestowitz | "The United States bequeathed to the Philippines the English language and a stronger affinity for Western culture. Since independence the Philippines has had an often tumultuous experience with democracy, with popular "People Power" movements overthrowing a dictatorship in one instance but also underlining the institutional weaknesses of its constitutional republic in others." | Dec 26 20:25 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippines | Dec 26 20:25 |
| TechrightsSocial | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 403 Forbidden | Dec 26 20:25 |
| schestowitz | Why are they still called after a Spanish king then? | Dec 26 20:25 |
| schestowitz | José Rizal, Marcelo del Pilar, and Mariano Ponce: leaders of the Propaganda Movement http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Filipino_Ilustrados_Jose_Rizal_Marcelo_del_Pilar_Mariano_Ponce.jpg | Dec 26 20:26 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: File:Filipino Ilustrados Jose Rizal Marcelo del Pilar Mariano Ponce.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 37.15 KB | Dec 26 20:26 |
| schestowitz | didn't realise how small east timor was http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-zvX68cjBQ0k/Tnz9w7UeVtI/AAAAAAAABRE/_3r3V5RNeKA/s1600/southeast_asia_map_region.png | Dec 26 20:32 |
| TechrightsSocial | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Dec 26 20:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: Puerto Rico ... etc | Dec 26 20:33 |
| MinceR | the Vatican is smaller | Dec 26 20:33 |
| schestowitz | so is their poplution | Dec 26 20:35 |
| schestowitz | [sarcasm] arse sex with kids doesn't make many many kids [/sarcasm] | Dec 26 20:36 |
| MinceR | :> | Dec 26 20:36 |
| MinceR | that's lucky | Dec 26 20:36 |
| schestowitz | Thei cult leaders also dress like they're gay http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SeMlGuvgFf8/TcMgSY4VFII/AAAAAAAAAMA/8F9k29vZvQQ/s1600/Pope-John.jpg | Dec 26 20:37 |
| TechrightsSocial | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Dec 26 20:37 |
| schestowitz | Other cult leaders grow beards and stuff, which won't attract women | Dec 26 20:38 |
| schestowitz | I'd be more afraid of Scintology | Dec 26 20:38 |
| schestowitz | at least *they've* got some sense of style | Dec 26 20:38 |
| schestowitz | *Scientology | Dec 26 20:38 |
| schestowitz | and they have got thetans, too | Dec 26 20:38 |
| schestowitz | I ought to be careful what I say though, my theist g/f is moving in with me this week | Dec 26 20:39 |
| qu1j0t3 | oh look: http://www.salon.com/2011/12/26/the_id_of_newt/ | Dec 26 20:40 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: The id of Newt - Newt Gingrich - Salon.com .::. Size~: 135.2 KB | Dec 26 20:40 |
| qu1j0t3 | TIL a new euphemism, 'opportunity society' -- a society that doesn't give a fuck for anyone who's not rich | Dec 26 20:40 |
| schestowitz | boxing day nearly over... enjoyed the big break and got back intp shape. The rowing contest had me optimised for back (2 months of practice), but now I drop weight and get back to more balance. | Dec 26 20:49 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: Newt scares me | Dec 26 20:49 |
| schestowitz | what he would do esp. | Dec 26 20:49 |
| schestowitz | These people have it written on their grin | Dec 26 20:50 |
| schestowitz | not to mention the scandals of lying at the highest levels | Dec 26 20:50 |
| schestowitz | With his admission | Dec 26 20:50 |
| schestowitz | but Fox covered up for him | Dec 26 20:50 |
| schestowitz | Fox as in Rupert | Dec 26 20:50 |
| schestowitz | They need checkenshits like him in power | Dec 26 20:50 |
| schestowitz | *chi | Dec 26 20:50 |
| schestowitz | The US requires candidates to be some kind of x-ian | Dec 26 20:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | https://twitter.com/#!/ryancoleman/status/151405132129644544 | Dec 26 20:53 |
| TechrightsSocial | @ryancoleman: is anyone really surprised? “@ryan: Wow, GoDaddy is blocking domain transfers away to other registrars? Disgusting. http://t.co/4FH8lOaF” | Dec 26 20:53 |
| TechrightsSocial | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found | Dec 26 20:53 |
| schestowitz | IIRC, Newt or Romney is Mormon | Dec 26 20:53 |
| schestowitz | I think the latter | Dec 26 20:53 |
| schestowitz | The US is very one-sided on the religion side | Dec 26 20:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes, I know. | Dec 26 20:53 |
| schestowitz | and it MUST be religious.. to be electable | Dec 26 20:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | there really is no hope for them | Dec 26 20:53 |
| schestowitz | with exceptions | Dec 26 20:53 |
| schestowitz | AFAIK, in the Philippines over 90% of the people are Christian, with Roman-Catholic being the dominant denomination, I guess owing to the Spanish colonialism at least in part. | Dec 26 20:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's a broken society just heading further downhill | Dec 26 20:53 |
| schestowitz | Then look at Indonesia | Dec 26 20:53 |
| schestowitz | Or Saudi | Dec 26 20:54 |
| schestowitz | Some VERY religious places | Dec 26 20:54 |
| schestowitz | Here in the UK Christianity is assumed and everyone celebrated xmas. | Dec 26 20:54 |
| schestowitz | Atheists too | Dec 26 20:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | https://twitter.com/#!/orgnet/status/151404942731657216 | Dec 26 20:55 |
| TechrightsSocial | @orgnet: Why online social networks are a VERY BAD place to plan anti-government activities ... you plan, they map. http://t.co/FYsTDjH7 #SNA | Dec 26 20:55 |
| MinceR | it's a pagan holiday | Dec 26 20:55 |
| schestowitz | I celebrated with my neighbour Lance, who is Chinese. I also attended 2 more xmas parties before the 25th. | Dec 26 20:55 |
| TechrightsSocial | @: | Dec 26 20:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: the USA political classes are not really religious. | Dec 26 20:55 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yeah :-) | Dec 26 20:55 |
| schestowitz | but don't tell this to people | Dec 26 20:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: there was a good discussion of this I read recently. | Dec 26 20:55 |
| MinceR | it should probably be called something else to hammer this point home | Dec 26 20:55 |
| schestowitz | They often get offended if they're religious | Dec 26 20:55 |
| MinceR | yule or saturnalia or whatever | Dec 26 20:55 |
| schestowitz | like you atheists 'steal' their holiday | Dec 26 20:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | MinceR: 'hypocrisy' and 'fraud' are perfectly good words :) | Dec 26 20:55 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: LOL | Dec 26 20:55 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: they're not | Dec 26 20:56 |
| schestowitz | they use it as a veil | Dec 26 20:56 |
| MinceR | qu1j0t3: i wouldn't call the winter solstice holiday "hypocrisy" or "fraud" :> | Dec 26 20:56 |
| schestowitz | Gates is pagan :-) | Dec 26 20:56 |
| schestowitz | Na... atheists | Dec 26 20:56 |
| schestowitz | Closet atheist | Dec 26 20:56 |
| schestowitz | And Jobs is insane | Dec 26 20:56 |
| MinceR | not anymore | Dec 26 20:56 |
| MinceR | he's dead now :> | Dec 26 20:56 |
| schestowitz | the worms are | Dec 26 20:56 |
| MinceR | he has lost the information that made him crazy | Dec 26 20:57 |
| qu1j0t3 | MinceR: oh right missed lines I thought you were saying 'another word for religion in the USA political class' | Dec 26 20:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | MinceR: nm | Dec 26 20:58 |
| MinceR | :> | Dec 26 20:58 |
| MinceR | i suspected so | Dec 26 20:58 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: can you find that vid about religion and leadership/gov over time? | Dec 26 20:58 |
| schestowitz | I bookmarked it AFAIK, can still find it | Dec 26 20:58 |
| schestowitz | I didn't bookmark it, just checked all my browsers | Dec 26 20:59 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3 would enjoy it | Dec 26 21:00 |
| schestowitz | Someone saw an old CV/resume. My current one is not public. The one in on the Web is from when I was 22... I've just turned 30. That's why I put age and not DOB in CVs... people tend not to realise they look at old CVs | Dec 26 21:02 |
| schestowitz | It's bad when personal web pages get out of date | Dec 26 21:02 |
| schestowitz | With old opinions, old taste in music, old knowledge, out of date and debunked ideas, etc. | Dec 26 21:02 |
| schestowitz | old employers at times | Dec 26 21:02 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-PeQBV5TDg | Dec 26 21:02 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: I Could Just Murder You A History of Government on Earth [Mirror] - YouTube .::. Size~: 126.2 KB | Dec 26 21:03 |
| qu1j0t3 | https://twitter.com/#!/hotdogsladies/status/151415370715119616 | Dec 26 21:34 |
| TechrightsSocial | @hotdogsladies: GoDaddy's the insane roommate who stole your change and peed on the seat for years—now sobbing, hiding your car keys, and blocking the door. | Dec 26 21:34 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: excellent, thanls. qu1j0t3 watch this... | Dec 26 21:42 |
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