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schestowitz | http://twitter.com/NavinChauhan/status/151777606310694912?iid=am-114009196113250215761804742&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208 | Dec 28 05:25 |
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TechrightsSocial | @NavinChauhan: @schestowitz I was just using a kindle yesterday .... happy holidays ... | Dec 28 05:25 |
schestowitz | qu1j0t3: dont' worry, she has conditions... if I'm not happy, she's out | Dec 28 05:26 |
schestowitz | qu1j0t3: re http://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/151831906760142848?iid=am-71153098513250345223541434&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208 | Dec 28 05:26 |
TechrightsSocial | @qu1j0t3: #TIL "$51 billion of [#Microsoft's] cash assets are kept offshore, to avoid taxes" http://t.co/YhsIEKdo #OWS cc @schestowitz | Dec 28 05:26 |
TechrightsSocial | @: | Dec 28 05:26 |
schestowitz | Yes, we suspected that | Dec 28 05:26 |
schestowitz | They even borrow money in the US | Dec 28 05:26 |
schestowitz | Just to avoid keeping money there | Dec 28 05:27 |
schestowitz | "Here it is, FY12Q1 already: Microsoft Reports Record First-Quarter Results $17.37 billion of revenue driven by solid business and consumer demand.. Wow, is that the longest, braggy release title we've ever had? Read it and you'll also discover that Bing has an organic line. In the Q&A session, Microsoft Management Discusses Q1 2012 Results - Earnings Call Transcript - Seeking Alpha, there was a lot of Qs about Skype and - | Dec 28 05:27 |
schestowitz | news to me - we discover that $51 billion of our cash assets are kept offshore, to avoid taxes. Viva la 1%! (I kid)." | Dec 28 05:27 |
schestowitz | http://twitter.com/seiflotfy/status/151597765003190272 | Dec 28 05:28 |
TechrightsSocial | @seiflotfy: I can't believe this but I actually agree with this... http://t.co/F5BllUb3 #BoycottApple | Dec 28 05:28 |
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schestowitz | http://twitter.com/SteveClement/statuses/151814573572362240 | Dec 28 05:28 |
TechrightsSocial | @SteveClement: Should We Organise an Apple Boycott? via (and by) @schestowitz http://t.co/peuG2cpr | Dec 28 05:28 |
TechrightsSocial | @: | Dec 28 05:28 |
schestowitz | 500 comments in /. | Dec 28 05:28 |
schestowitz | I haven't even checked how many people in various forums viewed it, but it sure did harm to Apple | Dec 28 05:29 |
schestowitz | [23:23] <tessier> We should do a yum update on techrights. It is two versions behind now. Followed by a reboot. | Dec 28 07:40 |
schestowitz | [04:55] <schestowitz> sure | Dec 28 07:40 |
schestowitz | [07:38] <tessier> I've done the yum update. Is now a good time to do a quick reboot? | Dec 28 07:40 |
schestowitz | [07:38] <schestowitz> Sure | Dec 28 07:40 |
schestowitz | [07:38] <schestowitz> maybe later | Dec 28 07:40 |
schestowitz | [07:39] <schestowitz> because now there's more traffic, maybe Sunday night is best? | Dec 28 07:40 |
schestowitz |  | Dec 28 07:40 |
schestowitz | [07:39] <tessier> Ok, Sunday night is fine. | Dec 28 07:40 |
schestowitz | [07:39] <tessier> If it is getting lots of traffic now it isn't a good time. | Dec 28 07:40 |
schestowitz | [07:40] <schestowitz> and I am ding a 6-part series on software patents in Europe | Dec 28 07:40 |
schestowitz | [07:40] <schestowitz> :-) | Dec 28 07:40 |
schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/87588277 | Dec 28 08:00 |
schestowitz | Good | Dec 28 08:00 |
TechrightsSocial | @Carlo Piana (carlopiana)'s status on Monday, 26-Dec-11 10:02:44 UTC - MuBlog: I'm already on an Apple's boycott. ;-) | Dec 28 08:00 |
schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/87491816 | Dec 28 08:00 |
TechrightsSocial | @George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Saturday, 24-Dec-11 06:07:06 UTC - Identi.ca: @Schestowitz This stinks, it was #Microsoft that anticompetitively prevented #WordPerfect from prospering on PCs http://ur1.ca/6xhlx | Dec 28 08:00 |
TechrightsSocial | @: | Dec 28 08:00 |
schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/87428984 | Dec 28 08:00 |
TechrightsSocial | @Jose R Rodriguez (metztli)'s status on Friday, 23-Dec-11 13:11:16 UTC - Identi.ca: ♺ @schestowitz #NoDaddy lets you pledge to boycott @GoDaddy for its stance on #SOPA http://tnw.co/uDcFfZ F #GoDaddy. I dumped'em last year | Dec 28 08:00 |
TechrightsSocial | -> Title: NoDaddy Wants Your Pledge Against Go Daddy .::. Size~: 94.75 KB | Dec 28 08:00 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/nilsgeylen/status/150325875886395393 | Dec 28 08:02 |
TechrightsSocial | @nilsgeylen: @schestowitz Wanted to reshare the post but at second look it's a bit weak. Enemy of your internet freedom yes, but why exactly. Needs work. | Dec 28 08:02 |
schestowitz | http://www.goldmansachs666.com/2011/12/house-of-rothschild.html | Dec 28 08:44 |
TechrightsSocial | Title: Goldman Sachs Information, Comments, Opinions and Facts: The House of Rothschild .::. Size~: 238.07 KB | Dec 28 08:44 |
schestowitz | "http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/27/hacker-builds-allegedly-pointless-data-network-out-of-lego-train/" | Dec 28 08:44 |
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schestowitz | " Eustace Mullins by all accounts was a very controversial figure and author. While his religious and political beliefs could be questioned - he was called anti-semetic - this particular work of his was well researched, footnoted and referenced in the bibliography. He spent years researching this topic. This book was burned publically in Germany in 1955 and also was banned in the United States. It exists through a web | Dec 28 08:44 |
schestowitz | site that has published it in their effort to preserve it." | Dec 28 08:44 |
schestowitz | http://www.thedelphicfuture.org/2011/11/greek-cds-tragedy.html http://www.thedelphicfuture.org/2011/11/comparing-cdo-and-cds-like-solutions-to.html | Dec 28 09:21 |
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schestowitz | http://twitter.com/koolhead17/status/151974197416042497?iid=am-130280753913250684470594561&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208 | Dec 28 11:00 |
TechrightsSocial | @koolhead17: @schestowitz awesome!! :D | Dec 28 11:00 |
schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/87707356 | Dec 28 11:00 |
TechrightsSocial | @agentsmith's status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-11 10:40:20 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Ok, thanks, seems normal now. | Dec 28 11:00 |
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qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: very telling "a really bad horror movie" -- which is where this shit originates really -- http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1107723--woman-recalls-vacation-slashing-attack-by-husband-as-a-really-bad-horror-movie?bn=1 | Dec 28 17:54 |
TechrightsSocial | Title: Toronto News: Woman recalls vacation slashing attack by husband as ‘a really bad horror movie’ - thestar.com .::. Size~: 107.67 KB | Dec 28 17:54 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: thanks Hollywood for normalising violence | Dec 28 17:54 |
MinceR | violence is normal :> | Dec 28 17:56 |
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qu1j0t3 | errrrr | Dec 28 18:00 |
qu1j0t3 | if you want | Dec 28 18:00 |
qu1j0t3 | there's a place you'll feel quite at home, if you believe that :) | Dec 28 18:00 |
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MinceR | i don't feel at home in it, but not liking it doesn't make it go away | Dec 28 18:08 |
qu1j0t3 | eh? | Dec 28 18:14 |
qu1j0t3 | what's that got to do with what I said? | Dec 28 18:15 |
qu1j0t3 | 1) i didn't say i didn't like it | Dec 28 18:15 |
qu1j0t3 | ripping out those things which contribute to the problem can help it go away | Dec 28 18:15 |
qu1j0t3 | it's an artificial, manufactured problem | Dec 28 18:15 |
MinceR | i think the apperance of violence in media and art is one of the things that contribute the least to it | Dec 28 18:16 |
qu1j0t3 | ...like this fucking css i'm working on | Dec 28 18:16 |
qu1j0t3 | hollywood isn't art. | Dec 28 18:16 |
MinceR | sticking your head in the sand doesn't make problems go away | Dec 28 18:16 |
qu1j0t3 | and violence in media is 24/7 | Dec 28 18:16 |
qu1j0t3 | sticking my head in the sand? | Dec 28 18:16 |
qu1j0t3 | how am I doing that? I'm sticking my head OUT by fingering Hollywood as a manufacturer of social problems. | Dec 28 18:16 |
qu1j0t3 | note: I am not blaming Cinema. I'm talking about Hollywood. a machine made for a purpose. | Dec 28 18:17 |
qu1j0t3 | and the rest of the media is the same | Dec 28 18:17 |
qu1j0t3 | and if you don't see the social effects, well, maybe you don't live in North America :) | Dec 28 18:18 |
qu1j0t3 | which is a fuckin disaster | Dec 28 18:18 |
qu1j0t3 | a manufactured disaster | Dec 28 18:18 |
MinceR | Hollywood does not manufacture these problems | Dec 28 18:20 |
MinceR | next you're going to tell me that news agencies manufacture wars and crime | Dec 28 18:21 |
abeNd-org | so you are saying just hollywood is the problem? | Dec 28 18:54 |
abeNd-org | bollywood doesnt make violent movies? japanese/korean movie companies only make happy movies? | Dec 28 18:54 |
MinceR | or perhaps they're hip enough to be excused for violence in their works :> | Dec 28 18:55 |
abeNd-org | perhaps so | Dec 28 18:56 |
abeNd-org | Hollywood is pretty much just ripping off everything Japanese these days, especially with horror movies | Dec 28 18:56 |
MinceR | no, they're doing other things as well, for example remaking their older movies | Dec 28 18:57 |
MinceR | and making movie adaptations of comic books | Dec 28 18:57 |
abeNd-org | and of course the grimm fairytales are just oh so happy | Dec 28 18:57 |
abeNd-org | mincer i figure they should run completely out of books/comic books/remakes by summer 2014, should be interesting to see what they try to do then, perhaps they will pull a lucasfilms & just rerelease the same movie with updated graphics | Dec 28 18:58 |
MinceR | :) | Dec 28 18:58 |
MinceR | well, novels and comics continue being written | Dec 28 18:58 |
MinceR | and there's a lot of material on the web as well | Dec 28 18:58 |
abeNd-org | yes, they could make a whole movie in second life about furries | Dec 28 18:59 |
MinceR | lol | Dec 28 18:59 |
abeNd-org | i went there once, only because a friend had built a really cool snmp to secondlife gateway, you could "see" his entire network....was actually pretty neat | Dec 28 19:00 |
MinceR | :) | Dec 28 19:00 |
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sebsebseb | hi | Dec 28 19:01 |
abeNd-org | perhaps they will continue the video game movies, those have gone over so great | Dec 28 19:01 |
MinceR | at least so long as not Uwe Boll is making them :> | Dec 28 19:01 |
abeNd-org | i can see the next one "Harvest Moon, row of hoes" | Dec 28 19:01 |
abeNd-org | i should trademark that one before uweboll or micheal bay (the destroyer of childhoods) gets ahold of it... | Dec 28 19:02 |
MinceR | :D | Dec 28 19:02 |
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schestowitz | [17:54] <qu1j0t3> schestowitz: thanks Hollywood for normalising violence | Dec 28 19:43 |
schestowitz | It's needed for the military | Dec 28 19:43 |
schestowitz | toy guns for the children too | Dec 28 19:43 |
schestowitz | qu1j0t3: http://news.techeye.net/software/techrights-group-calls-for-apple-boycott | Dec 28 19:43 |
TechrightsSocial | Title: Techrights group calls for Apple boycott - Android lawsuits show something's off | TechEye .::. Size~: 21.66 KB | Dec 28 19:43 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: it's also needed to "justify" militarising police. Same way the FBI manufactures fake terrorists to keep the fear level high. | Dec 28 19:55 |
schestowitz | I heard so | Dec 28 20:17 |
qu1j0t3 | heard? we see the evidence all around us :) | Dec 28 20:29 |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1094916 | Dec 28 20:59 |
TechrightsSocial | @: | Dec 28 20:59 |
schestowitz | "revisa la historia de la computación, y te darás cuenta de las empresas y personas que más han infuido en el desarrollo y la forma de los dispositivos y programas que actualmente usamos y sin duda encontrarás varias menciones de apple en las últimas décadas... tratar de limitar algo acaso no atenta contra libertad..." | Dec 28 20:59 |
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qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: over 12,000 gun homicides per year in USA. | Dec 28 22:23 |
abeNd-org1 | so either lets arm & train everyone, or disarm everyone (make owning a firearm a 1 time final offense, otherwise no one will care, they wont then either but *shrug*) | Dec 28 22:26 |
qu1j0t3 | abeNd-org1: or, just ask all the countries on the long tail of this chart what they do (or don't do): http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_wit_fir-crime-murders-with-firearms | Dec 28 22:31 |
TechrightsSocial | Title: Murders with firearms statistics - countries compared - NationMaster .::. Size~: 182.32 KB | Dec 28 22:31 |
qu1j0t3 | abeNd-org1: that's quite a disparity wouldn't you say. | Dec 28 22:31 |
MinceR | you can't disarm everyone | Dec 28 22:31 |
MinceR | so the right choice is obvious | Dec 28 22:31 |
qu1j0t3 | why don't we start with what all the countries with close-to-zero rates do or don't do. | Dec 28 22:32 |
qu1j0t3 | there Might Be A Clue there | Dec 28 22:32 |
MinceR | i'm sure this is the only factor to that, yes | Dec 28 22:32 |
qu1j0t3 | it sure would be an interesting starting point. | Dec 28 22:32 |
qu1j0t3 | there are a lot of countries with a close to zero rate. | Dec 28 22:32 |
qu1j0t3 | what's their secret? | Dec 28 22:33 |
MinceR | that page still hasn't loaded | Dec 28 22:36 |
MinceR | finally it did | Dec 28 22:36 |
MinceR | so, do you prefer murders with knives, bludgeons, poison and bare hands? | Dec 28 22:37 |
MinceR | and i guess i don't need to mention that comparing countries by number of murders is kind of stupid | Dec 28 22:39 |
MinceR | since the population varies quite widely | Dec 28 22:39 |
qu1j0t3 | firearms | Dec 28 22:40 |
qu1j0t3 | and it's simple to adjust for population | Dec 28 22:40 |
qu1j0t3 | you still end up with a massive disparity | Dec 28 22:41 |
MinceR | why did you not link to a chart which is already adjusted, then? | Dec 28 22:41 |
qu1j0t3 | here's the per capita list http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate | Dec 28 22:41 |
TechrightsSocial | Title: List of countries by firearm-related death rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 70 KB | Dec 28 22:41 |
MinceR | that's death, not just murder | Dec 28 22:42 |
qu1j0t3 | nope | Dec 28 22:43 |
qu1j0t3 | the column 'homicides' | Dec 28 22:43 |
qu1j0t3 | what on earth could account for japan at 0.02? | Dec 28 22:44 |
MinceR | different culture, mostly | Dec 28 22:44 |
qu1j0t3 | are they not human? | Dec 28 22:44 |
qu1j0t3 | culture... | Dec 28 22:44 |
qu1j0t3 | oh | Dec 28 22:44 |
qu1j0t3 | weird! I was wondering if it might be CULTURAL. | Dec 28 22:44 |
qu1j0t3 | hm, i wonder what reinforces culture... | Dec 28 22:44 |
qu1j0t3 | what do people consume that's cultural that might play into this? | Dec 28 22:45 |
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MinceR | well, there's this magical thing that people watch and immediately try to re-enact | Dec 28 22:45 |
MinceR | they only make it in Hollywood | Dec 28 22:45 |
qu1j0t3 | *something* is responsible for the difference. | Dec 28 22:46 |
qu1j0t3 | i wonder what. | Dec 28 22:46 |
qu1j0t3 | is it cultural or is it not cultural? | Dec 28 22:46 |
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qu1j0t3 | and germans. they aren't shooting each other. how can this be??? | Dec 28 22:46 |
abeNd-org1 | yes, nothing about japan's media is violent at all | Dec 28 22:48 |
MinceR | yes | Dec 28 22:48 |
MinceR | there's a lot of violence and blood in anime and japanese movies, but it's different | Dec 28 22:49 |
abeNd-org1 | they are too busy working themselves to death, then getting drunk & molesting schoolgirls on the subway | Dec 28 22:49 |
MinceR | because it isn't made in that magical place called Hollywood | Dec 28 22:49 |
abeNd-org1 | and in most of the anime you can never tell how old anyone is, unless they are *really* old | Dec 28 22:52 |
MinceR | i guess qu1j0t3 hasn't seen Battle Royale yet :) | Dec 28 22:55 |
schestowitz | http://historyscoper-sci-tech-blog.blogspot.com/2011/12/techrights-recommends-apple-boycott.html | Dec 28 23:16 |
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schestowitz | [22:44] <qu1j0t3> weird! I was wondering if it might be CULTURAL. | Dec 28 23:17 |
schestowitz | I hear a lot about suicides in Japan | Dec 28 23:17 |
MinceR | i think they prefer melee weapons for that | Dec 28 23:17 |
schestowitz | meh lee | Dec 28 23:25 |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1105154 "Camouflage FTW!!" | Dec 28 23:26 |
TechrightsSocial | @: | Dec 28 23:26 |
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