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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I suppose it is a little early to ask how you are settling in. :-) | Dec 02 00:00 | |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: So is there any individual EU members that would reject this new patent BS? | Dec 02 00:11 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] $12m from Gates Foundation to Pittsburgh schools goes to admins/consultants http://identi.ca/url/61385631 | Dec 02 00:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Turns Out the ‘Government Sachs’ Conspiracy Theorists Were Right All Along - #govsachs #crooks #wsboys http://goo.gl/KCRrx | Dec 02 00:17 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Consultants eat up Pittsburgh schools' gift - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review .::. Size~: 46.43 KB | Dec 02 00:17 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] SOPA on the ropes? Bipartisan alternative to 'Net censorship emerges http://identi.ca/url/61386229 | Dec 02 00:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #AlQaeda Terrorists Airlifted From Libya to Aid Syrian Opposition - #nato #stateterrorism #syria http://goo.gl/DyuZY | Dec 02 00:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Dutch copyright group accused of pirating anti-piracy anthem, group's boss seeks finders' fee http://identi.ca/url/61386263 | Dec 02 00:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Capitalists game the system with their bought politicians then say only capitalism can make money. | Dec 02 00:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New Reports Antagonise Patents Madness in Europe http://ur1.ca/6a6tt #swpats | Dec 02 00:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Occupy Boston: defiant protest sets down roots http://identi.ca/url/61386382 | Dec 02 00:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Why the study of evolution matters http://identi.ca/url/61386395 | Dec 02 00:29 | |
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| schestowitz | hm... didn't finish all my posts | Dec 02 02:05 |
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| msb__ | I can't connect to identi.ca | Dec 02 02:18 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Still here? | Dec 02 02:20 |
| msb__ | http://cosmicpenguin.com/linux/MICROSOFTS_WAR_AGAINST_LINUX.html | Dec 02 02:23 |
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| schestowitz | sebsebseb: yeah | Dec 02 02:24 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I am quite happy right now :D | Dec 02 02:24 |
| schestowitz | tell me mo' | Dec 02 02:24 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: oh was just using Pidgin for voice again, and recording in audacity as well, and sounds good both of us :) | Dec 02 02:25 |
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| sebsebseb | unlike when I did stuff like that, but with Google Talk in Windows | Dec 02 02:25 |
| sebsebseb | then I sounded ok, but they useauly didn't sound that good | Dec 02 02:25 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: as for Skype shame it's not in Magei's repos | Dec 02 02:25 |
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| schestowitz | 'http://news.yahoo.com/wikileaks-files-show-global-spying-industry-161606742.html | Dec 02 02:47 |
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| schestowitz | the US got skype now | Dec 02 02:48 |
| schestowitz | another one for the spynet | Dec 02 02:48 |
| schestowitz | and they have cellphones and people's voice/text on that too | Dec 02 02:48 |
| schestowitz | people around here don't seem to mind.. | Dec 02 02:48 |
| schestowitz | cisco has jabber | Dec 02 02:48 |
| schestowitz | and cisco helps spying and censorship in China | Dec 02 02:48 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/so-theres-a-rootkit-hidden-in-millions-of-cellphones/16708 | Dec 02 02:49 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 02 02:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: So, there's a rootkit hidden in millions of cellphones | ZDNet .::. Size~: 147.44 KB | Dec 02 02:49 |
| schestowitz | > Search in Google such words: | Dec 02 02:49 |
| schestowitz | > BGSA upload | Dec 02 02:49 |
| prurigro | schestowitz: I thought jabber was closer to google than cisco? | Dec 02 02:49 |
| schestowitz | !google cisco jabber | Dec 02 02:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Cisco Jabber Transforms Workplace Communications - Cisco ... | http://www.cisco.com/web/products/voice/jabber.html | Dec 02 02:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Cisco Jabber [Voice and Unified Communications] - Cisco Systems | http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/voicesw/ps6789/jabber_uc_apps.html | Dec 02 02:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Jabber Technology - Cisco Systems | http://www.cisco.com/web/about/ac49/ac0/ac1/ac258/JabberInc.html | Dec 02 02:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Cisco Jabber Takes Unified Communications and Collaboration to ... | http://newsroom.cisco.com/press-release-content%3Ftype%3Dwebcontent%26articleId%3D5940205 | Dec 02 02:51 |
| schestowitz | basically, think of it like this | Dec 02 02:51 |
| schestowitz | Even here in the UK | Dec 02 02:51 |
| schestowitz | People give all their emails to Google, MS | Dec 02 02:51 |
| schestowitz | Hotmail, Yahoo, GMail | Dec 02 02:51 |
| schestowitz | It's enough for one party to use it | Dec 02 02:52 |
| schestowitz | ahnd PGP is being merginalised | Dec 02 02:52 |
| schestowitz | Skype=spy, US | Dec 02 02:52 |
| schestowitz | (Microsoft) | Dec 02 02:52 |
| schestowitz | that includes text and voice messaging | Dec 02 02:52 |
| schestowitz | Google Talk is cloud-spy | Dec 02 02:52 |
| schestowitz | For cellphones we have laws here that require ISPs to: | Dec 02 02:52 |
| schestowitz | retain location log | Dec 02 02:52 |
| schestowitz | retain some calls, not sure about spans and how they vary | Dec 02 02:53 |
| schestowitz | Texts | Dec 02 02:53 |
| schestowitz | !google murdoch phone hacking | Dec 02 02:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - News International phone hacking scandal - Wikipedia, the free ... | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_International_phone_hacking_scandal | Dec 02 02:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - James Murdoch claims truth about phone-hacking was hidden from ... | http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/nov/10/james-murdoch-phone-hacking-myler-crone | Dec 02 02:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Rupert Murdoch's phone-hacking scandal: A timeline - The Week | http://theweek.com/article/index/217378/rupert-murdochs-phone-hacking-scandal-a-timeline | Dec 02 02:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Murdoch Phone Hacking Scandal Widens - Forbes | http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2011/11/15/murdoch-phone-hacking-scandal-widens/ | Dec 02 02:53 |
| schestowitz | In short, it's already China here, but we call it "free world" and praise its marvels | Dec 02 02:53 |
| schestowitz | When *** hits the fan and people riot, then all that freedom facade moves aside | Dec 02 02:54 |
| schestowitz | !google careron blackberry | Dec 02 02:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - James Cameron s Avatar - BlackBerry App World | https://appworld.blackberry.com/webstore/content/5578 | Dec 02 02:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Download Cameron County Pennsylvania ... - BlackBerry App World | https://appworld.blackberry.com/webstore/content/54688%3Flang%3Den | Dec 02 02:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Cameron Exploring Crackdown on Social Media After Riots ... | http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/12/world/europe/12iht-social12.html | Dec 02 02:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - David Cameron considers banning suspected rioters from social ... | http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/aug/11/david-cameron-rioters-social-media | Dec 02 02:54 |
| prurigro | schestowitz: what would you suggest be used? just IRC? | Dec 02 02:55 |
| schestowitz | IRC is not secure on freenode | Dec 02 02:56 |
| schestowitz | but people know it's public | Dec 02 02:56 |
| schestowitz | and even DM | Dec 02 02:56 |
| schestowitz | TBH, I don't think for the common person there's much left for secure comms other than to go to a restaurant and use mouth, pen, paper | Dec 02 02:57 |
| schestowitz | you still get CCTVd for meeting, but nobody knows the conversation | Dec 02 02:57 |
| schestowitz | If you want a private conversation, don't use any type of phone unless it's going through a private network | Dec 02 02:57 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/KathyReid/statuses/142223034718236672 | Dec 02 02:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @KathyReid: @stumbles Good luck for tomorrow Ben! #swpat | Dec 02 02:58 |
| schestowitz | \0/ | Dec 02 02:58 |
| prurigro | schestowitz: I'd assume encrypted DCC would be secure at least though? | Dec 02 03:01 |
| prurigro | schestowitz: or how about ideas like http://pidgin-encrypt.sourceforge.net/ ? | Dec 02 03:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Pidgin-Encryption .::. Size~: 5.08 KB | Dec 02 03:02 |
| schestowitz | does freenode support it? | Dec 02 03:03 |
| prurigro | schestowitz: that's for IM encryption, over freenode though znc supports two methods of encrypted messages-- I'm not sure what other clients can use that however... | Dec 02 03:05 |
| amarsh04 | back in a few, loading new kernel | Dec 02 03:08 |
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| schestowitz | prurigro: would you say that there is a conspiracy to make secure comms more scarce and hard for the common person to use? In so-called 'rogue' countries crypts are treated like some sort of terrorist thing | Dec 02 03:16 |
| prurigro | I dunno if I'd call it a conspiracy as I'd suggest that its simply not in the best interest of those forking up the money to supply services | Dec 02 03:16 |
| schestowitz | people don't seem to understand that secure comms would be essential for many non-violent things | Dec 02 03:16 |
| prurigro | have you taken a look at cjdns? | Dec 02 03:17 |
| schestowitz | I'm thinking like, | Dec 02 03:17 |
| schestowitz | business offering secure connections don't attract many customers | Dec 02 03:17 |
| schestowitz | Because the public is not taught at school the importance of it | Dec 02 03:17 |
| prurigro | its one of those things that's totally key to have, but not necessary 99% of the time | Dec 02 03:17 |
| schestowitz | Just look what kids do in facebook | Dec 02 03:17 |
| schestowitz | And also, funding does not go to stuff that makes people 'vanish' from Big Brother radar, unless it's for some military purposes | Dec 02 03:18 |
| schestowitz | cjdns rings no bell to me | Dec 02 03:18 |
| prurigro | well there's big brother, but they're simply hoping private communication isn't around I'd suspect | Dec 02 03:18 |
| schestowitz | At least we not have egypt as a slide/case study for the whole internet/tech rights thing | Dec 02 03:19 |
| prurigro | cjdns is a project I've been following for a while now and I think you'll like it, 2 secs tho (phone) | Dec 02 03:21 |
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| prurigro | schestowitz: kk, done- you still around? | Dec 02 04:04 |
| schestowitz | yeah, on and off | Dec 02 04:17 |
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| prurigro | schestowitz: https://github.com/cjdelisle/cjdns here, check it out-- its actually one of the only real prospective solutions to the dark net plan at this point | Dec 02 04:25 |
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| prurigro | check the readme | Dec 02 04:26 |
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| *schestowitz reads | Dec 02 04:38 | |
| prurigro | cjd is a really proficient programmer too, as you'll notice if you browse the source | Dec 02 04:39 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 02 04:39 |
| schestowitz | We have a number of somewhat competing offerings to solve this problem from ISPs and government. | Dec 02 04:39 |
| schestowitz | We have IPSEC, DNSSEC, numerous proposals from the mundane to the wild and whacky such as "internet | Dec 02 04:39 |
| schestowitz | drivers licenses". | Dec 02 04:39 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 02 04:39 |
| schestowitz | !google microsoft charney doj license | Dec 02 04:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Gilmore on the "computer health certificate" plan [LWN.net] | http://lwn.net/Articles/409224/ | Dec 02 04:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - slight paranoia: Microsoft: Competing on privacy? | http://paranoia.dubfire.net/2011/01/microsoft-competing-on-privacy.html | Dec 02 04:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Privacy and Security Fanatic: Microsoft: Want Unrestricted Net ... | http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/microsoft-want-unrestricted-net-access-need-p | Dec 02 04:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Network Security Consulting Blog » Internet-wide Network Access ... | http://blog.emagined.com/2011/07/19/internet-wide-network-access-control-are-you-serious-scott/ | Dec 02 04:39 |
| schestowitz | real douchbag | Dec 02 04:40 |
| schestowitz | *che | Dec 02 04:40 |
| prurigro | lol, Microsoft you say eh? | Dec 02 04:41 |
| prurigro | what do you think of the project? | Dec 02 04:42 |
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| schestowitz | have not tried it yet | Dec 02 05:00 |
| schestowitz | i became a watcher of this project | Dec 02 05:01 |
| schestowitz | https://github.com/schestowitz | Dec 02 05:01 |
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| Diablo-D3 | lol roy has agithub account | Dec 02 05:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | lol | Dec 02 05:02 |
| schestowitz | <http://localizedusa.com/2011/12/01/piper-jaffray-pjc-analysts-reiterate-an-overweight-rating-on-red-hat-rht/ | Dec 02 05:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: » Piper Jaffray (PJC) Analysts Reiterate an “Overweight” Rating on Red Hat (RHT) - LocalizedUSA .::. Size~: 33.23 KB | Dec 02 05:03 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: I, know, I kow... | Dec 02 05:04 |
| prurigro | schestowitz: you should stop by #cjdns some day | Dec 02 05:06 |
| schestowitz | naaa. doubt it | Dec 02 05:16 |
| schestowitz | don't' have the time | Dec 02 05:16 |
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| prurigro | you do seem rather busy these days | Dec 02 05:26 |
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| schestowitz | prurigro: up all night | Dec 02 05:48 |
| schestowitz | 3rd day in a row... | Dec 02 05:48 |
| schestowitz | work related | Dec 02 05:49 |
| schestowitz | the rest of the day (I only spent practising rowing, printing some papers, and booking a restaurant for Saturday night | Dec 02 05:50 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I've been over at my mother's house all day | Dec 02 05:52 |
| DaemonFC | she slipped and broke her leg | Dec 02 05:52 |
| schestowitz | and? | Dec 02 05:52 |
| schestowitz | oh | Dec 02 05:52 |
| schestowitz | did you help her? | Dec 02 05:53 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Dec 02 05:53 |
| DaemonFC | she has to have surgery on it tomorrow | Dec 02 05:53 |
| schestowitz | insured? | Dec 02 05:53 |
| DaemonFC | 80% | Dec 02 05:53 |
| schestowitz | or "surprise emergency"? | Dec 02 05:54 |
| prurigro | schestowitz: you and me both | Dec 02 05:55 |
| DaemonFC | if it wasn't for the family medical leave act, she would have lost her job | Dec 02 05:55 |
| DaemonFC | that's what typically happened in the United States before 1993 | Dec 02 05:55 |
| DaemonFC | depending on whatever the laws in your state were | Dec 02 05:55 |
| DaemonFC | some states already had similar laws | Dec 02 05:55 |
| schestowitz | oh I forgot to post IRC logs | Dec 02 05:56 |
| DaemonFC | Indiana was one of the ones that let you employer fire you if you had your leg broken and couldn't return to work | Dec 02 05:56 |
| schestowitz | for 2 days now | Dec 02 05:56 |
| DaemonFC | the FMLA says that every employee has to have their job held for them for up to 12 weeks out of any year over a medical emergency | Dec 02 05:57 |
| DaemonFC | as long as your doctor says you're unfit for work, they can't fire you unless you're gone more than 12 weeks out of the year | Dec 02 05:57 |
| DaemonFC | most large employers lobbied against that law | Dec 02 05:58 |
| DaemonFC | because they view their employees as being as expendable as the law allows | Dec 02 05:58 |
| DaemonFC | FMLA doesn't say the elave has to be paid though, so unless you have short term disability insurance, most people can't afford to use that law anyway | Dec 02 06:00 |
| DaemonFC | it's another one of those protectionist laws that is there to make sure that it mostly covers professionals who can afford to go without work or has short term disability insurance anyway | Dec 02 06:01 |
| DaemonFC | just like there are other laws assuring that those people are exempt from foreign competition for their jobs | Dec 02 06:02 |
| DaemonFC | *have | Dec 02 06:02 |
| DaemonFC | the super rich only amount to about half a percent of the population | Dec 02 06:02 |
| DaemonFC | so they extend some limited protections to form an outward bubble that has a grab bag full of stuff to influence enough voters to keep their preferred politicians in power | Dec 02 06:03 |
| DaemonFC | I kind of view FMLA with no mandate to offer short term disability insurance as one of them | Dec 02 06:04 |
| DaemonFC | nobody working a typical low wage job can afford to miss more than a few days of work | Dec 02 06:04 |
| DaemonFC | so the law can't exist to protect them | Dec 02 06:04 |
| DaemonFC | that being said, I'm glad my mom is one of the people on the outer edge of the bubble that that law is there to protect people within | Dec 02 06:05 |
| prurigro | schestowitz: hey, would you be interested in having me take a look at the markup on the news part of the site at some point? | Dec 02 06:10 |
| schestowitz | sure, you can be made author top | Dec 02 06:12 |
| prurigro | author top? | Dec 02 06:13 |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Being up all night it seems | Dec 02 06:30 |
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| schestowitz | yes, again | Dec 02 06:31 |
| DaemonFC | reading more about Jeff Merkey | Dec 02 06:31 |
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| ziggyfish | What distro would you recommend for a novice computer user | Dec 02 06:32 |
| DaemonFC | he cited in a complaint dated June of 2005 that "Linux members" conspired to deny him his rights under the "Religious Freedom Restoration Act", which was found to be unconstitutional and invalid in 1997 | Dec 02 06:32 |
| DaemonFC | he was apparently upset that someone made fun of him for using peyote | Dec 02 06:33 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Up all night working on Techrights? | Dec 02 06:33 |
| DaemonFC | Merkey claims to be a member of a "native American" church even though he is not himself a native American | Dec 02 06:33 |
| ziggyfish | They have been using ubuntu, however the computer crashed and the lastest ubuntu is not usable even for me | Dec 02 06:33 |
| DaemonFC | and his use of peyote got him an indictment by a grand jury in Utah | Dec 02 06:34 |
| sebsebseb | ziggyfish: Linux Mint, well and possbily Mageia 1 even, but Mageia 2 next year and oh yeah totally | Dec 02 06:34 |
| sebsebseb | ziggyfish: oh and PC Linux OS can be good for newbies as well, loads of choice | Dec 02 06:34 |
| DaemonFC | which was dropped pursuant to a settlement stating that Merkey agreed that he would refrain from using peyote again unless and until the US federal drug laws change to remove it from the Schedule I controlled substance list | Dec 02 06:34 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 02 06:34 |
| DaemonFC | therefore, he signed a settlement which agreed that he had no legal right to use it in the first place | Dec 02 06:35 |
| DaemonFC | then sued "Linux members" because some guy made fun of him for using peyote, which violated religious freedoms that are in fact, not recognized by the US federal government or the state of Utah | Dec 02 06:36 |
| ziggyfish | sebsebseb: going to give linux mint a go | Dec 02 06:36 |
| sebsebseb | ziggyfish: yep Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu, but it's Ubuntu done right | Dec 02 06:36 |
| sebsebseb | ziggyfish: oh and Mint 12 is Gnome Shell, but with extensions that make it more Gnome 2 like | Dec 02 06:36 |
| sebsebseb | plus can have without | Dec 02 06:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] So, what? Are we back? How long were we down? Damn, I hate when that happens. | Dec 02 06:36 | |
| DaemonFC | the accusation that making fun of someone for using drugs based on their religious beliefs is an "unlawful privacy violation" is ridiculous | Dec 02 06:37 |
| sebsebseb | ziggyfish: and Mageia is worth keepng an eye on as well | Dec 02 06:37 |
| ziggyfish | I would love a KDE based distro that fixed all the memory problems KDE has. | Dec 02 06:38 |
| DaemonFC | Merkey admits he is not a lawyer and has had no education about the US legal system whatsoever, but represents himself in his lawsuits which he always ends up dropping later because no matter which judge he gets, they aren't buying it | Dec 02 06:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] OK, looks like a database slave blew out. We'll need to replace that tomorrow night. Hopefully we can run on one DB tonight. | Dec 02 06:38 | |
| sebsebseb | ziggyfish: oh Mageia is very good for KDE | Dec 02 06:39 |
| sebsebseb | and PC Linux OS is good for KDE as well | Dec 02 06:39 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: no | Dec 02 06:40 |
| DaemonFC | in one of his filings, he used a paragraph in the complaint allegations he was making about "Linux members" who are affiliated the aforementioned "Czechoslovakian communists" (only he spelled it Checkoslavkian in his lawsuit filing) to point out that he is "widely regarded as one of Utah's preeminent computer scientists" | Dec 02 06:40 |
| DaemonFC | you'd think the courts would get sick of dealing with this idiot and threaten to hold him in contempt the next time he wastes their time | Dec 02 06:41 |
| ziggyfish | I am actually liking gnome 3 | Dec 02 06:42 |
| ziggyfish | there are a few problems with it, but I think once these are sorted out it will be a very good desktop | Dec 02 06:42 |
| DaemonFC | "Merkey has served as a Chief Scientist at Novell and several large computer companies during his career and is credited with creating some of the most powerful, scalable, and performance technologies in the world." | Dec 02 06:42 |
| DaemonFC | Extending FAT, calling it Novell Netware File System, and leaving in place a 4 gigabyte volume limit is not powerful | Dec 02 06:43 |
| DaemonFC | nor is is scalable | Dec 02 06:43 |
| DaemonFC | and speaking with my experience with it, it doesn't perform well either | Dec 02 06:44 |
| DaemonFC | the only real extension he made to FAT was to hack in POSIX style file permissions so that it could be used more easily with SCO Unixware | Dec 02 06:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] and we're back! | Dec 02 06:45 | |
| DaemonFC | he goes on to claim that Groklaw under Pamela Jones routinely defamed the Mormons | Dec 02 06:49 |
| DaemonFC | in an attempt to piss off the judge and jury at her, since this is in a Utah court | Dec 02 06:50 |
| DaemonFC | I've never seen any posting like that on Groklaw | Dec 02 06:50 |
| DaemonFC | he claims that one of the defendants uses "google bombing" and that it is illegal | Dec 02 06:51 |
| DaemonFC | which is untrue | Dec 02 06:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] 2 oddities then: a) it isn't autolaunched?! b) two-finger scroll is on in g-c-c, but g-s-d disables it? :/ | Dec 02 06:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] very good! tegra2 support is rather good, looking forward now to tegra3. nvidia's been helpful. new arm tablets coming up ~weekly :) | Dec 02 06:51 | |
| DaemonFC | even though people do use it, tricking their search algorithm is not illegal | Dec 02 06:51 |
| DaemonFC | and there's no evidence that this defendant ever did such a thing anyway | Dec 02 06:52 |
| DaemonFC | he's always careful to use the word "hack" or "hacking" with quotations, seemingly in an attempt to legitimize his use of the words outside of the proper scope of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act | Dec 02 06:53 |
| DaemonFC | none of the activities he refers to are actually illegal under that law, or as amended by the USA PATRIOT ACT | Dec 02 06:53 |
| *DaemonFC is just reading this for amusement and seeing if anything in the entire PDF is true other than his own name that he gave the court | Dec 02 06:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Company Claims to Have Replicated Rossi's Cold Fusion Device http://identi.ca/url/61390021 !science | Dec 02 06:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Defkalion shows specs but no technology - NyTeknik .::. Size~: 119.67 KB | Dec 02 06:55 |
| DaemonFC | "posts hate speech" | Dec 02 06:55 |
| DaemonFC | there's a good one | Dec 02 06:55 |
| DaemonFC | it's not considered a crime in itself | Dec 02 06:55 |
| DaemonFC | I can say "The world would be better off if someone shot all the Mormons" | Dec 02 06:55 |
| DaemonFC | but I couldn't direct someone to do it | Dec 02 06:56 |
| DaemonFC | he ignores the difference and pretends that hateful speech is a crime in itself, it's not | Dec 02 06:56 |
| DaemonFC | at least not at the federal level and not in most states | Dec 02 06:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] When using open source makes you an enemy of the state http://identi.ca/url/9414534 !fsf !eff !linux | Dec 02 06:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Entangled diamonds blur quantum-classical divide http://identi.ca/url/61390075 !science | Dec 02 06:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: When using open source makes you an enemy of the state | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 264.04 KB | Dec 02 06:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Entangled diamonds blur quantum-classical divide - physics-math - 01 December 2011 - New Scientist .::. Size~: 56.12 KB | Dec 02 06:56 |
| DaemonFC | and even when it is a crime at state level, it's only a crime against certain groups, which tend to be different in each state law that has a hate speech law | Dec 02 06:57 |
| DaemonFC | and the issue of whether those laws are even constitutional has not been answered yet because states don't tend to enforce them because they know they'll likely be stricken | Dec 02 06:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @aseigo very good! tegra2 support is rather good, looking forward now to tegra3. nvidia's been helpful. new arm tablets coming up ~we ... | Dec 02 06:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Croatian activists publish database of government procurements, pointing the way to detecting corruption http://identi.ca/url/61390090 | Dec 02 06:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] !Google rips Senate's online piracy bill: 'This is what is wrong with Washington' http://identi.ca/url/61390144 !eff | Dec 02 06:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Croatian transparency activists publish enormous database of government procurements, pointing the way to detecting corruption and fraud - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 31.27 KB | Dec 02 06:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 02 06:58 |
| DaemonFC | in Section 32, he declares that Slashdot.org is an organization that promotes far right wing domestic terrorism | Dec 02 06:59 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Dec 02 06:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Cheezburger CEO Ben Huh’s Amazing Story of Failure, Depression, & Survival http://identi.ca/url/61390160 | Dec 02 07:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] A Case for Open-Source GPU Drivers http://identi.ca/url/61390198 !linux !fsf | Dec 02 07:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cheezburger CEO Ben Huh’s Amazing Story of Failure, Depression, & Survival | Xconomy .::. Size~: 41.26 KB | Dec 02 07:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: A Case for Open-Source GPU Drivers | Linaro - Open source software for ARM SoCs .::. Size~: 53.99 KB | Dec 02 07:00 |
| DaemonFC | then he finishes off with Section 33, where he names 200 unknown persons "DOES" who are conspiring with Linux members, Slashdot, and Pamela Jones in acts of Chekoslovakian promoted far right wing and (at the same time) far right wing domestic terrorism, libel, hate speech, and general hurting Jeff Merkeley's feelings | Dec 02 07:01 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 02 07:01 |
| DaemonFC | err | Dec 02 07:01 |
| Brendan_T | DaemonFC: wtf? who is this tard | Dec 02 07:01 |
| DaemonFC | should have read "and at the same time, communist" | Dec 02 07:02 |
| DaemonFC | his name is Jeff Merkey | Dec 02 07:02 |
| DaemonFC | he is a former Novell employee | Dec 02 07:02 |
| DaemonFC | he has claimed he is the "loyal servant of Microsoft" | Dec 02 07:02 |
| Brendan_T | he said that? | Dec 02 07:02 |
| DaemonFC | he has tried to file friend of the court petitions in aide of SCO | Dec 02 07:02 |
| DaemonFC | and he has in his personal capacity, tried to sue people of the "Linux Operating System" cabal he hallucinated when in a peyote induced trance | Dec 02 07:03 |
| DaemonFC | he also seems to be a megalomaniac | Dec 02 07:03 |
| DaemonFC | he fashions himself a sort of godlike figure of the high tech revolution | Dec 02 07:04 |
| DaemonFC | when the biggest accomplishment he has ever made was extending FAT16 to use as Novell's Netware file system | Dec 02 07:04 |
| DaemonFC | Brendan_T: Don't take my word for it | Dec 02 07:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Mwuhahahaha! Wanna know why I love Egypt and its people? Coz of stuff like this: "I’m not completely sure what an ele... http://b1t.it/4Ba | Dec 02 07:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Mwuhahahaha! Wanna know why I love Egypt and its people?… .::. Size~: 47.3 KB | Dec 02 07:05 |
| DaemonFC | http://scofacts.org/merkey.html | Dec 02 07:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jeff Merkey litigation .::. Size~: 40.35 KB | Dec 02 07:05 |
| DaemonFC | http://scofacts.org/Merkey-email.html | Dec 02 07:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: SCOfacts collection of Merkey email .::. Size~: 23.64 KB | Dec 02 07:05 |
| DaemonFC | http://scofacts.org/Merkey-Perens-1.pdf | Dec 02 07:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting application/pdf type | Dec 02 07:06 |
| Brendan_T | i never can believe that these people actually believe these things | Dec 02 07:06 |
| DaemonFC | that one is by far the funniest | Dec 02 07:06 |
| DaemonFC | https://lwn.net/Articles/140157/ | Dec 02 07:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jeff Merkey rides again [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 84.26 KB | Dec 02 07:06 |
| DaemonFC | at one point he tried to buy Linux outright from Linus Torvalds for $50,000 | Dec 02 07:06 |
| DaemonFC | not realizing that Torvalds holds the copyright on about 2% of the Linux kernel | Dec 02 07:07 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 02 07:07 |
| Brendan_T | ugh my isp directs me to their private google portal everytime i go to an invalid link | Dec 02 07:07 |
| Brendan_T | it used to be yahoo a while ago i think, and ive disabled it at least 5 times but it always reenables | Dec 02 07:07 |
| DaemonFC | and when he made a GPL-violating proprietary Linux port of the Novell Netware File System without Novell's permission.... | Dec 02 07:08 |
| DaemonFC | (they have patents on it that he was infringing...) | Dec 02 07:08 |
| DaemonFC | he distributed it as a blob with a piece of Nvidia-style kernel glue | Dec 02 07:08 |
| cubezzz | Brendan_T, which ISP? | Dec 02 07:08 |
| Brendan_T | dodo | Dec 02 07:08 |
| DaemonFC | which also patched out the code the kernel uses to inform the user their kernel is tainted | Dec 02 07:08 |
| DaemonFC | to be fair, Nvidia and AMD both make GPL-violating drivers | Dec 02 07:09 |
| DaemonFC | but they don't patch out the "kernel is tainted" warning | Dec 02 07:09 |
| Brendan_T | tries to buy linux?? oh no, so he genuinely is retarded | Dec 02 07:10 |
| DaemonFC | when he was confronted by some of the kernel developers, Merkey declared that the GPL version 2 is "badly worded" and therefore is giving everyone who downloads any software licensed such a complete copyright grant | Dec 02 07:10 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 02 07:10 |
| DaemonFC | the guy only gets funnier the more you read about him | Dec 02 07:10 |
| DaemonFC | a US federal judge called him delusional in a Finding of Fact | Dec 02 07:10 |
| DaemonFC | the GPL version 2 has been attacked in US courts several times | Dec 02 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | including a federal district court for southern Indiana | Dec 02 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | and has survived the attack every time | Dec 02 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | the Indiana federal district judge declared that the GPL promotes competition and innovation | Dec 02 07:12 |
| DaemonFC | and dismissed the "antitrust" lawsuit against the FSF | Dec 02 07:12 |
| DaemonFC | with prejudice | Dec 02 07:12 |
| DaemonFC | (meaning "don't come back") | Dec 02 07:12 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 02 07:12 |
| DaemonFC | different troll that time, not Merkey | Dec 02 07:13 |
| DaemonFC | the troll in the Indiana federal court case tried to appeal the ruling but the court of appeals for this district affirmed the lower court's ruling | Dec 02 07:13 |
| DaemonFC | and left it intact | Dec 02 07:13 |
| DaemonFC | I think Groklaw did mention that particular case too | Dec 02 07:14 |
| DaemonFC | but it was more amusing to read the judge's Finding of Fact unabridged | Dec 02 07:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @netivity We've got customs: We'll be rolling over to our very own NS servers over the weekend. Apologise for any inconvenience caused. | Dec 02 07:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Email Tips: Star all important emails. Makes em that much easier to find #since1969 #teamnetivity | Dec 02 07:15 | |
| DaemonFC | every once in a while some troll you've never heard of comes to attack free software in court using some legal arguments from the Twilight Zone | Dec 02 07:15 |
| DaemonFC | wouldn't surprise me if Microsoft was seeding them with enough money to file the lawsuits | Dec 02 07:15 |
| DaemonFC | on the chance that they get an ignorant judge or something that allows it to proceed | Dec 02 07:15 |
| Brendan_T | l0l "His new company tried to get it into the Linux kernel. Novell objected, so he sued them for sexual harassment." | Dec 02 07:15 |
| schestowitz | [06:49] <DaemonFC> he goes on to claim that Groklaw under Pamela Jones routinely defamed the Mormons | Dec 02 07:16 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Dec 02 07:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | >His | Dec 02 07:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | >sexual harassment | Dec 02 07:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | que? | Dec 02 07:16 |
| DaemonFC | Novell fired Merkey so he came back with Sexual Harassment Panda | Dec 02 07:16 |
| DaemonFC | http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-ash2/48587_100000075592710_4765_n.jpg | Dec 02 07:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Dec 02 07:17 |
| DaemonFC | does that look like someone you'd sexually harass? | Dec 02 07:17 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.facebook.com/jeff.merkey | Dec 02 07:18 |
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| DaemonFC | there's his entire Facebook profile btw | Dec 02 07:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RD @SafaricomLtd Get the HP Mini 100E with parental control for 19,999/= Open Day in Nairobi from 2nd to 4th Dec at the Sarit Centre! | Dec 02 07:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @netivity Guess who owns the mother of all domain name hacks? Check it out here http://nairo.biz | Dec 02 07:18 | |
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| Brendan_T | id go on facebook jhust to add him and chat | Dec 02 07:18 |
| DaemonFC | he divorced apparently | Dec 02 07:18 |
| Brendan_T | but he'd probably consider it sexual harassmenty | Dec 02 07:18 |
| DaemonFC | he married some German woman and had a son in 2004 | Dec 02 07:18 |
| DaemonFC | according to his court filings | Dec 02 07:19 |
| Brendan_T | wonderful, another destroyed child | Dec 02 07:19 |
| *ziggyfish (~brendan@123-243-163-103.static.tpgi.com.au) has left #techrights ("Leaving") | Dec 02 07:19 | |
| DaemonFC | not necessarily | Dec 02 07:19 |
| DaemonFC | his mother might have custody | Dec 02 07:19 |
| DaemonFC | I know nothing about her | Dec 02 07:19 |
| DaemonFC | there's some chance the kid will be raised properly | Dec 02 07:19 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 02 07:19 |
| DaemonFC | I know his dad, the voodoo witch shaman against the Linux Operating System Movement would probably fuck the kid up irreparably | Dec 02 07:20 |
| DaemonFC | ;) | Dec 02 07:20 |
| Brendan_T | facebook kinda feels like a public dating site, with some of the first informationg being age gender and relationship status | Dec 02 07:21 |
| DaemonFC | meh | Dec 02 07:21 |
| DaemonFC | Sexual orientation: Gay | Dec 02 07:21 |
| DaemonFC | Religion: Atheist | Dec 02 07:21 |
| DaemonFC | the next holiday dinner, there were...questions | Dec 02 07:22 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 02 07:22 |
| prurigro | DaemonFC: I have the prefect dating site for you then http://www.christianmingle.com/ | Dec 02 07:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Online Christian Dating for Christian Singles | Join Free @ Christian Mingle .::. Size~: 20.9 KB | Dec 02 07:23 |
| DaemonFC | Political Views: Democratic Socialism | Dec 02 07:24 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Dec 02 07:24 |
| prurigro | "God's Match for YouTM" | Dec 02 07:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | dude | Dec 02 07:25 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, they run their ads in cheap late night blocks | Dec 02 07:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | if God had a match for me | Dec 02 07:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | Im pretty sure he'd email me | Dec 02 07:25 |
| DaemonFC | and end up running during South Park | Dec 02 07:25 |
| DaemonFC | i:) | Dec 02 07:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | and be like "hey dude, see enclosed .jpg, she lives 3 doors down" | Dec 02 07:25 |
| DaemonFC | "Fucking fatass!" | Dec 02 07:25 |
| DaemonFC | "Shut up you fucking Jew!" | Dec 02 07:25 |
| DaemonFC | break for commercial | Dec 02 07:25 |
| DaemonFC | "Find God's match for you at ChristianMingle.com!" | Dec 02 07:26 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Dec 02 07:26 |
| prurigro | Diablo-D3: don't you know? God pays 100 dollars per block on TV, he's still figuring out that internet thing | Dec 02 07:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | God _invented_ the internet, dude. | Dec 02 07:26 |
| prurigro | I think you mean "Gore" | Dec 02 07:27 |
| prurigro | a common mistake | Dec 02 07:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | he also invented nanotechnology and self-reproducing machinery. | Dec 02 07:27 |
| DaemonFC | Sore/Loserman 2000 | Dec 02 07:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | prurigro: nope, I do mean God. | Dec 02 07:27 |
| DaemonFC | vs. Dick and Bush | Dec 02 07:27 |
| DaemonFC | I can't say I like Al Gore much better than Bush | Dec 02 07:27 |
| DaemonFC | his views on the bill of rights are at least as frightening | Dec 02 07:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | tbl and vint cerf were told of the internet in a vision | Dec 02 07:28 |
| DaemonFC | if not always for the same reasons | Dec 02 07:28 |
| DaemonFC | tastelessness has never been a valid reason to censor freedom of speech or expression as provided for in the first amendment to the United States Constitution | Dec 02 07:29 |
| prurigro | Diablo-D3: I think you're gonna need to explain your theory a bit further here | Dec 02 07:29 |
| DaemonFC | therefore even though some video games, movies, etc. are probably tasteless, that alone should not qualify to get them banned | Dec 02 07:29 |
| prurigro | DaemonFC: gore was anti videogame violence | Dec 02 07:29 |
| DaemonFC | and frankly, even if it was, whose definition of "tasteless" are we using here? | Dec 02 07:30 |
| DaemonFC | that's scarier still | Dec 02 07:30 |
| prurigro | it'd be cool if they treated ratings like nutrition facts (does america have those?) | Dec 02 07:30 |
| DaemonFC | I would argue that religion and religious texts tend to be tasteless and serve no useful purpose other than to rot kids brains | Dec 02 07:30 |
| DaemonFC | but I wouldn't ban it even if I could | Dec 02 07:31 |
| prurigro | FUCK: 386 times | NIPPLES: 34 times | MASTURBATION: 1.5 times | Dec 02 07:31 |
| prurigro | people could judge for themselves | Dec 02 07:31 |
| DaemonFC | because I would not choose to interpret freedom of expression and speech to exclude something I personally find tasteless, insulting, or pointless | Dec 02 07:31 |
| MinceR | i would take all tax exemption and government funding from cults, though | Dec 02 07:31 |
| DaemonFC | and we know that religion inspires violence, there's absolutely no correlative evidence to back up the claim that violent video games do or not | Dec 02 07:32 |
| prurigro | MinceR: cults and religions? | Dec 02 07:32 |
| MinceR | prurigro: i'm talking about the organizations | Dec 02 07:32 |
| MinceR | you can't fund or tax a belief system :> | Dec 02 07:32 |
| DaemonFC | I believe the slippery slope is too dangerous to start making exceptions for the things that the majority dislikes | Dec 02 07:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | who said nipples? | Dec 02 07:33 |
| DaemonFC | of course, a lot of people disagree with me, and when those people take over, we can have a good old fashioned Aryan book burning or something | Dec 02 07:33 |
| prurigro | MinceR: religion is an organization, typically | Dec 02 07:33 |
| DaemonFC | I don't believe religion should be censored | Dec 02 07:34 |
| prurigro | Diablo-D3: *puts hand up slowly* | Dec 02 07:34 |
| DaemonFC | I don't believe they should get tax exemptions | Dec 02 07:34 |
| DaemonFC | or federal funding if part of what the contract involves is a recruitment drive | Dec 02 07:34 |
| prurigro | DaemonFC: if there's money involved, tax em | Dec 02 07:34 |
| prurigro | if not, let em be | Dec 02 07:34 |
| MinceR | also, religious brainwashing shouldn't be allowed in any school that gets public funding | Dec 02 07:34 |
| DaemonFC | that's what I said | Dec 02 07:34 |
| prurigro | DaemonFC: summarizing for you :) | Dec 02 07:35 |
| DaemonFC | I believe churches should be made to pay the same income tax as any individual or business entity pays | Dec 02 07:35 |
| DaemonFC | there's not a lot of difference between Scientology and Catholicism | Dec 02 07:35 |
| DaemonFC | ;) | Dec 02 07:35 |
| prurigro | or evangelism, or jehovas witness, or islam, or judiasm etcetc | Dec 02 07:36 |
| DaemonFC | if you're running a business that caters to stupid people, ok fine | Dec 02 07:36 |
| DaemonFC | that falls under several constitutional protections | Dec 02 07:36 |
| DaemonFC | but even businesses that thrive on stupid customers should be taxed | Dec 02 07:36 |
| MinceR | well, of course | Dec 02 07:37 |
| prurigro | the problem is that they've become rather large in the US | Dec 02 07:37 |
| prurigro | and they've infiltrated the government quite heavily | Dec 02 07:37 |
| MinceR | $cientology was designed to exploit all the tricks that catholicism already used, and some more | Dec 02 07:37 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: I personally favor the repeal of all income taxes | Dec 02 07:37 |
| DaemonFC | and most types of taxes anyway | Dec 02 07:37 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: i support that, along with the abolition of the state | Dec 02 07:38 |
| DaemonFC | FairTax as suggested would get the churches away from tax evasion | Dec 02 07:38 |
| MinceR | but i don't think that humanity is ready for that | Dec 02 07:38 |
| DaemonFC | because they would pay the same sales tax anyone else does | Dec 02 07:38 |
| prurigro | MinceR: its called the internet :) | Dec 02 07:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Someone screwed up how computers work, and I blame it on Bill Gates. I had one typewriter in 50 years. But I’ve bough... http://b1t.it/4B9 | Dec 02 07:38 | |
| MinceR | prurigro: not really | Dec 02 07:38 |
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| MinceR | prurigro: hungaristan already has the legal basis for internet censorship | Dec 02 07:38 |
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| MinceR | prurigro: PRC has internet censorship; they tried to have it in australia too | Dec 02 07:38 |
| MinceR | DNS-based internet censorship is widespread | Dec 02 07:39 |
| prurigro | internet censorship just means more hoops | Dec 02 07:39 |
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| DaemonFC | legal basis being fuck you, the state matters and you don't | Dec 02 07:39 |
| DaemonFC | right? | Dec 02 07:39 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Dec 02 07:39 |
| MinceR | no, it means the state tries to destroy your freedom of speech | Dec 02 07:39 |
| prurigro | I disagree with it with every bone in my body | Dec 02 07:39 |
| prurigro | but if/when it happens, there will be ways around | Dec 02 07:39 |
| prurigro | cjdns | Dec 02 07:39 |
| MinceR | for a while, that is | Dec 02 07:39 |
| prurigro | is close to release too | Dec 02 07:39 |
| MinceR | they can use non-DNS methods, they can ban proxies | Dec 02 07:39 |
| prurigro | cjdns can get around that | Dec 02 07:40 |
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| MinceR | DaemonFC: sales-only tax means the state can't collect money for goods made in the state and then exported, afaik | Dec 02 07:40 |
| cubezzz | ha, ax.25 goes around everything | Dec 02 07:40 |
| MinceR | prurigro: cjdns can get around IP-level blocks? | Dec 02 07:40 |
| cubezzz | only thing is it's very slow | Dec 02 07:41 |
| prurigro | MinceR: definitely | Dec 02 07:41 |
| prurigro | and yes, cjdns will be slow as well | Dec 02 07:41 |
| MinceR | cubezzz: until they jam it, that is | Dec 02 07:41 |
| prurigro | ax.25 I haven't heard of | Dec 02 07:41 |
| cubezzz | packet radio | Dec 02 07:41 |
| prurigro | one moment while I google :) | Dec 02 07:41 |
| MinceR | getting around the blocks isn't enough | Dec 02 07:41 |
| cubezzz | MinceR, I suppose they'll ban shortwave as well? :) | Dec 02 07:42 |
| MinceR | people who fight to block freedom of speech need to lose their powers and they need to be punished | Dec 02 07:42 |
| MinceR | cubezzz: why not? | Dec 02 07:42 |
| prurigro | cubezzz: can that connect up with ip? | Dec 02 07:42 |
| cubezzz | prurigro, yes | Dec 02 07:42 |
| prurigro | nice | Dec 02 07:42 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: the tax means that nobody pays taxes on anything until it's bought as a finished product | Dec 02 07:43 |
| cubezzz | you need a good transceiver of course | Dec 02 07:43 |
| prurigro | so we have two good solutions if the freedom apocalypse occurs | Dec 02 07:43 |
| DaemonFC | and it is usually proposed as a replacement for most federal taxes | Dec 02 07:43 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: which means that if you live in a country where they only make components to products made elsewhere, your state has no money to work with at all | Dec 02 07:43 |
| cubezzz | MinceR, it's very unlikely, shortwave is too useful | Dec 02 07:43 |
| MinceR | cubezzz: to whom? | Dec 02 07:44 |
| cubezzz | boats use it, and ham operators | Dec 02 07:44 |
| MinceR | cubezzz: fascists care about neither | Dec 02 07:44 |
| cubezzz | it's useful in emergency situations when the phones don't work | Dec 02 07:44 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairtax | Dec 02 07:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: FairTax - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 284.29 KB | Dec 02 07:44 |
| MinceR | if they want to reserve it for the state, they can do that | Dec 02 07:44 |
| MinceR | not many people use shortwave | Dec 02 07:44 |
| cubezzz | but they can | Dec 02 07:44 |
| DaemonFC | "A study by Kotlikoff and Sabine Jokisch concluded that the long term effects of the FairTax would reward low-income households with 26.3% more purchasing power, middle-income households with 12.4% more purchasing power, and high-income households with 5% more purchasing power.[11] The Beacon Hill Institute reported that the FairTax would make the federal tax system more progressive and would benefit the average individual in almost all | Dec 02 07:44 |
| DaemonFC | expenditures deciles.[8] In another study, they state the FairTax would offer the broadest tax base (an increase of over $2 trillion), which allows the FairTax to have a lower tax rate than current tax law.[56]" | Dec 02 07:45 |
| MinceR | if the fascists say they'll triangulate all shortwave sources and kill the guy doing it, they won't | Dec 02 07:45 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: it also makes tax evasion easier :> | Dec 02 07:45 |
| cubezzz | all between 1,800 to 32,000 khz | Dec 02 07:45 |
| prurigro | I think we're talking about a pretty serious worst case scenario here | Dec 02 07:45 |
| prurigro | if they start banning short wave and wifi (cjdns) | Dec 02 07:46 |
| MinceR | we're going towards the worst case scenario fast | Dec 02 07:46 |
| cubezzz | yeah MinceR's being too pessimistic | Dec 02 07:46 |
| prurigro | I mean, being able to communicate across the net might be the last of our concerns | Dec 02 07:46 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predicted_effects_of_the_FairTax | Dec 02 07:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Predicted effects of the FairTax - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 153.67 KB | Dec 02 07:46 |
| MinceR | cubezzz: no, i just see what usian fascists are doing to their own country and to other countries | Dec 02 07:46 |
| cubezzz | people should know about alternatives though | Dec 02 07:46 |
| MinceR | cubezzz: i also see what local dictatorships do | Dec 02 07:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] remember folks: just because you theoreticaly CAN have twice the power next year, doesn't necessarily mean you should program for it. | Dec 02 07:46 | |
| MinceR | and it doesn't look like the dictatorship in hungary will end any time soon | Dec 02 07:47 |
| cubezzz | MinceR, you got a big slice of the elctromagnetic spectrum you can use | Dec 02 07:47 |
| DaemonFC | During the transition, many or most of the employees of the IRS (105,978 in 2005)[35] would face loss of employment.[36] The Beacon Hill Institute estimate is that the federal government would be able to cut $8 billion from the IRS budget of $11.01 billion (in 2007), reducing the size of federal tax administration by 73%.[36] In addition, income tax preparers (many seasonal), tax lawyers, tax compliance staff in medium-to-large businesses, and | Dec 02 07:47 |
| DaemonFC | software companies which sell tax preparation software (such as Drake Software, TaxCut, and TurboTax), could face significant drops, changes, or loss of employment.[17] | Dec 02 07:47 |
| DaemonFC | ok, I like that | Dec 02 07:47 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 02 07:47 |
| DaemonFC | Illegal immigration | Dec 02 07:48 |
| prurigro | Mincer: is FairTax GST? | Dec 02 07:48 |
| DaemonFC | The current system of taxation, in many cases, provides incentives for illegal immigrants and companies that employ them. It is estimated that approximately 5 million illegal immigrants are paid off the books ("under the table") in cash allowing employee and employer to avoid paying federal taxes estimated at $35 billion a year.[50] Advocates also claim the FairTax would provide incentive for illegal immigrants to legalize as they would otherwise | Dec 02 07:48 |
| DaemonFC | not receive the FairTax rebate. | Dec 02 07:48 |
| MinceR | cubezzz: for now | Dec 02 07:48 |
| MinceR | prurigro: what's GST? | Dec 02 07:48 |
| prurigro | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goods_and_Services_Tax_%28Canada%29 | Dec 02 07:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Goods and Services Tax (Canada) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 53.02 KB | Dec 02 07:48 |
| cubezzz | it's HST now :-/ | Dec 02 07:49 |
| prurigro | it is | Dec 02 07:49 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distribution_of_the_FairTax_burden | Dec 02 07:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden | Dec 02 07:49 |
| prurigro | but we rode with GST for quite some time | Dec 02 07:49 |
| MinceR | well, at least it isn't DST :> | Dec 02 07:49 |
| cubezzz | we still have free-nets in Canada | Dec 02 07:49 |
| cubezzz | I have to say, we have a pretty good system, at least for internet | Dec 02 07:50 |
| cubezzz | now probably few people know about it, but at least we have it | Dec 02 07:50 |
| prurigro | Mincer: so how does it compareto FairTax? | Dec 02 07:50 |
| MinceR | i don't know | Dec 02 07:50 |
| DaemonFC | FairTax supporters argue that the tax burden would shift to those who do not pay taxes under the current system and those with wealth.[2] The FairTax would dramatically broaden the tax base to include all 300 million Americans and an estimated 30 million to 40 million foreign tourists and visitors.[17] | Dec 02 07:50 |
| MinceR | all i know about "FairTax" is that DaemonFC said it's sales-only tax and only on finished products | Dec 02 07:51 |
| prurigro | cubezzz: I know about it, but 56k aien't my cup of tea :) | Dec 02 07:51 |
| cubezzz | I can't wait to start programming open source Tax software ! :-P | Dec 02 07:51 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: The IRS sends you rebates | Dec 02 07:51 |
| cubezzz | prurigro, they sell broadband wholesale | Dec 02 07:51 |
| DaemonFC | to make up for the tax on food and essentials | Dec 02 07:51 |
| DaemonFC | under the FairTax proposal | Dec 02 07:51 |
| DaemonFC | so poor and middle class people would be doing better | Dec 02 07:51 |
| prurigro | Mincer: canada's tax was ~15% for years, and is 13% now | Dec 02 07:51 |
| prurigro | surely FairTax wouldn't be more than that? | Dec 02 07:52 |
| prurigro | cubezzz: sell? | Dec 02 07:52 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: by the way, i don't know if what i've brought up is a big issue, i just know that it's there | Dec 02 07:52 |
| cubezzz | prurigro, yes | Dec 02 07:52 |
| cubezzz | anyone with a Bell phone number in Ontario or Quebec can get it | Dec 02 07:52 |
| cubezzz | you can run net services on it | Dec 02 07:53 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Used goods are not taxed | Dec 02 07:53 |
| DaemonFC | so if you shop at a thrift store or buy a used car, no tax | Dec 02 07:53 |
| prurigro | cubezzz: and its free? | Dec 02 07:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] bare knuckle boxing is safer than normal,b/c with bare you can't go for the punches that cause real dmg.(they'd break your fingers) #rfotd | Dec 02 07:53 | |
| DaemonFC | so there's another advantage to the poor and middle class | Dec 02 07:53 |
| cubezzz | prurigro, no not free, but 38 dollars per month, plus you get your own ip address | Dec 02 07:53 |
| prurigro | cubezzz: shame I cancelled my bell account when they pulled that shit last winter | Dec 02 07:53 |
| DaemonFC | the tax is only on finished goods, and only if they are sold as new | Dec 02 07:53 |
| prurigro | cubezzz: oh hm, 38 is what I pay right now | Dec 02 07:54 |
| DaemonFC | that way the item only gets taxed once | Dec 02 07:54 |
| cubezzz | prurigro, knowing some Bell techs doesn't hurt either | Dec 02 07:54 |
| prurigro | cubezzz: so what's the diff between this and normal aDSL? | Dec 02 07:54 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: It would provide a good incentive against consumerism in that case | Dec 02 07:54 |
| DaemonFC | because a lot of people would rather buy a car that's a year or two old than pay a 23% tax on a new one | Dec 02 07:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] does the home timeline run on Dali time? first i see is @gomerx "3 hrs ago, then 6 hrs ago" ... then @tekk 4 minutes ago... @support? | Dec 02 07:55 | |
| cubezzz | prurigro, on normal DSL you can't run a mail server, ftp, etc | Dec 02 07:55 |
| DaemonFC | so new car sales would plummet as people were encouraged to keep older ones running | Dec 02 07:55 |
| DaemonFC | the car industry might not like that | Dec 02 07:55 |
| MinceR | so they'll build cars that are even less reliable? :> | Dec 02 07:56 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: there's already a form of tax evasion on used cars | Dec 02 07:56 |
| DaemonFC | you want to know what you do? | Dec 02 07:56 |
| DaemonFC | say I have a used car and you buy it from me for $5,000 | Dec 02 07:56 |
| DaemonFC | you don't want to pay 7% Indiana tax on that $5,000 | Dec 02 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | and I don't want to pay Indiana and federal income tax on that $5,000 | Dec 02 07:57 |
| prurigro | cubezzz: I run a http server, ftp, occasionally a irc bounce and two video streaming servers? | Dec 02 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | so I write you a bill of sale | Dec 02 07:57 |
| scientes | http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lp9snrZLBL1qbily0o1_400.jpg | Dec 02 07:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Dec 02 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | anhd we both agree you paid me $100 for that car | Dec 02 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | and that's what we pay taxes on | Dec 02 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | but you really pay me the $5,000 | Dec 02 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | it goes on all the time | Dec 02 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | so the state makes almost nothing off used car sales, private party ones anyway, as it stands now | Dec 02 07:58 |
| cubezzz | prurigro, I don't think it would be fast enough for that | Dec 02 07:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] must check out and sleep now... good night !identiverse !tzaf | Dec 02 07:58 | |
| DaemonFC | because all the buyer and seller have to do it make up a price to report to the government | Dec 02 07:58 |
| cubezzz | uplink speed would be too slow | Dec 02 07:58 |
| prurigro | Mincer: I just read through the FairTax, and Canada has been worse for years-- you have nothing to worry about :) | Dec 02 07:58 |
| prurigro | cubezzz: true, I only serve to a small number of people | Dec 02 07:58 |
| prurigro | upload is like 80kb/s I think? | Dec 02 07:59 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: the worst thing you can do is tell them the car was a gift | Dec 02 07:59 |
| DaemonFC | then they look up the blue book value and charge you 7% of that | Dec 02 07:59 |
| cubezzz | yes, that sounds about right | Dec 02 07:59 |
| DaemonFC | so a couple times, I bought a car from a relative | Dec 02 07:59 |
| DaemonFC | for $1 | Dec 02 07:59 |
| DaemonFC | and paid the state 7 cents in tax | Dec 02 07:59 |
| prurigro | cubezzz: you seen this one, btw? http://mthruf.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/job-fails-whos-keeping-up-calculators-rotary-phones-the-wheel-to-name-a-few.jpg | Dec 02 07:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Dec 02 07:59 |
| cubezzz | lol, yeah | Dec 02 08:00 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: The complexity of the tax code is ridiculous | Dec 02 08:00 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: and the IRS didn't investigate you and say it's fraud? | Dec 02 08:00 |
| cubezzz | the fat executive | Dec 02 08:00 |
| DaemonFC | even if you get a gift from someone, the government is there to steal 7% of its "market value" | Dec 02 08:00 |
| prurigro | Mincer & DaemonFC: in canada we definitely take 2k in cash and write 1k on the bill of receipt | Dec 02 08:00 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Buying a car for $1 is not fraud | Dec 02 08:01 |
| prurigro | cubezzz: I love how it says 'for the movers of this world' when the guy looks like some retiree | Dec 02 08:01 |
| DaemonFC | as long as you truthfully report the sale price of $1 | Dec 02 08:01 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 02 08:01 |
| MinceR | :> | Dec 02 08:01 |
| DaemonFC | they wanted to give me the car for free | Dec 02 08:01 |
| prurigro | DaemonFC: the rest of the cash was simply a gift | Dec 02 08:01 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: the question is, does the IRS agree with you on that | Dec 02 08:01 |
| DaemonFC | but then I'd owe hundreds of dollars to the state | Dec 02 08:01 |
| DaemonFC | because it was a "gift" | Dec 02 08:01 |
| DaemonFC | so I purchased it | Dec 02 08:01 |
| DaemonFC | for $1 | Dec 02 08:01 |
| DaemonFC | and really gave them, $1 | Dec 02 08:01 |
| cubezzz | prurigro, :) | Dec 02 08:01 |
| cubezzz | I' | Dec 02 08:01 |
| DaemonFC | and paid sales tax on, $1 | Dec 02 08:01 |
| DaemonFC | no fraud, nothing illegal | Dec 02 08:02 |
| cubezzz | I'd buy one used if I could find one at a good price | Dec 02 08:02 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Tax code says it's legal | Dec 02 08:02 |
| DaemonFC | so, it's legal | Dec 02 08:02 |
| DaemonFC | only $1 changed hands | Dec 02 08:02 |
| DaemonFC | so you pay tax on $1 | Dec 02 08:02 |
| prurigro | cubezzz: me too just for the lulz, but honestly, the ones that hooked into a vacuum tube would have been so much more practical in general | Dec 02 08:02 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: They end up getting you anyway | Dec 02 08:02 |
| Brendan_T | why do you pay so much for a gift | Dec 02 08:02 |
| DaemonFC | when you go to plate the fucking thing | Dec 02 08:03 |
| DaemonFC | or get a driver's license | Dec 02 08:03 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 02 08:03 |
| cubezzz | prurigro, no one I know has anything older than the mid 1970's | Dec 02 08:03 |
| DaemonFC | it's not like you won, you're just cutting your losses as much as you can within the law | Dec 02 08:03 |
| cubezzz | anything older than that is extremely hard to find in working condition | Dec 02 08:03 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: D&D character alignments ;) | Dec 02 08:03 |
| MinceR | :> | Dec 02 08:04 |
| *DaemonFC is Lawful Neutral | Dec 02 08:04 | |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alignment_%28Dungeons_%26_Dragons%29#Lawful_Neutral | Dec 02 08:04 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Dec 02 08:04 |
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| prurigro | cubezzz: my grandma's second husband, one of the codevelopers of the modern ballpoint pen lol, definitely had stuff from early 1970s- I should ask if it was put in storage or sold | Dec 02 08:04 |
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| cubezzz | my oldest is Amiga 500, 1987 | Dec 02 08:05 |
| cubezzz | still works good | Dec 02 08:05 |
| prurigro | word, my circa ~1984 commodore 64 works quite nicely too | Dec 02 08:05 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alignment_%28Dungeons_%26_Dragons%29#Lawful_Evil | Dec 02 08:06 |
| DaemonFC | Obama | Dec 02 08:06 |
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| DaemonFC | lol | Dec 02 08:06 |
| prurigro | :) I always find myself rating people on this scale | Dec 02 08:06 |
| prurigro | and I don't even play d&d | Dec 02 08:06 |
| *Diablo-D3 is chaotic evil, dur | Dec 02 08:07 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: I am....THE LAW!!! | Dec 02 08:08 |
| *prurigro figured as much | Dec 02 08:08 | |
| DaemonFC | Drop your weapons and surrender! | Dec 02 08:08 |
| DaemonFC | THIS is your ONLY WARNING! | Dec 02 08:08 |
| prurigro | I like your style anyway though, Diablo-D3 | Dec 02 08:08 |
| DaemonFC | I knew they'd do that ;) | Dec 02 08:08 |
| prurigro | Diablo-D3: even when its at my expense haha | Dec 02 08:08 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: you-betrayed-the-LAAAAAWWWW! | Dec 02 08:08 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: (flash) (video) (audio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6cyDsuNx_U | Dec 02 08:09 |
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| prurigro | anyone have thoughts on http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=15_179&item_id=039181 ? | Dec 02 08:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Canada Computers | Hard Drives | Crucial (CT064M4SSD2) 64GB SSD m4 2.5" SATA 3 Solid State Drive Read: 415MB/s , Write: 95MB/s .::. Size~: 61.17 KB | Dec 02 08:09 |
| prurigro | I recently discovered after 4 years of this arch32 install that I have a 64 bit processor | Dec 02 08:10 |
| prurigro | so I was thinking switching to SSD might be motivation to reinstall 64style | Dec 02 08:10 |
| prurigro | I hear some SSDs are garbage though | Dec 02 08:10 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itmNiTwHOsM | Dec 02 08:10 |
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| Diablo-D3 | most are, yes | Dec 02 08:10 |
| prurigro | Diablo-D3: Most even eh? Any keywords to look out for that you know of? | Dec 02 08:11 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz4HEEiJuGo&feature=related | Dec 02 08:12 |
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| Diablo-D3 | you cant afford enterprise slc nand with numbers for both actual capacity and total capacity | Dec 02 08:12 |
| prurigro | Diablo-D3: I'm guessing that's why typical consumer SSDs don't seem *that* much faster than HDs? | Dec 02 08:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | they're not faster in a useful sense | Dec 02 08:13 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Those are two of my favorite movies | Dec 02 08:13 |
| DaemonFC | actually | Dec 02 08:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] And so I crossed the 2000 followers mark on googleplus. Thank you all for having me in your circles. I feel honoured. | Dec 02 08:13 | |
| Diablo-D3 | they're zero power usage, zero heat output, silent due to no moving parts, and dont suffer from the non-linear access problem | Dec 02 08:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | 3.5" 7200rpm drives can peak at 150mb/sec sequential reads | Dec 02 08:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | cheap ssds can peak at that. | Dec 02 08:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | the difference is the real drive costs like 5x less per gb and you can buy them in 1 or 2TB models | Dec 02 08:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | seriously, when I can buy 512gb or 1tb SSDs at what I pay for drives now? then Ill buy them | Dec 02 08:15 |
| prurigro | Diablo-D3: yea, cheap does not sound worth it at all | Dec 02 08:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | btw, for the record, I dont use solo drives | Dec 02 08:15 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBcd5Xmb2pE&feature=related | Dec 02 08:15 |
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| Diablo-D3 | I have a raid1 for booting and a raid5 for mass storage in my workstation | Dec 02 08:15 |
| DaemonFC | in German? | Dec 02 08:16 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm | Dec 02 08:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | if a drive fails, its not a big deal. | Dec 02 08:16 |
| prurigro | Diablo-D3: ahh yea, a raid1 would pretty much cover the durability aspect of a SSD, considering how often an HD actually fails | Dec 02 08:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | in my box, its essnetially never. | Dec 02 08:17 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCw0WeQLJWM&feature=related | Dec 02 08:17 |
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| DaemonFC | better | Dec 02 08:17 |
| prurigro | Diablo-D3: you can do raid5 over a network too eh? | Dec 02 08:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | huh? | Dec 02 08:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | that question makes no sense | Dec 02 08:18 |
| prurigro | oh whoops | Dec 02 08:18 |
| prurigro | sorry, I misread | Dec 02 08:18 |
| prurigro | mass storage vs network storage | Dec 02 08:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | that still makes no sense | Dec 02 08:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] there really isn't any such thing right now to my knowledge. we're working on that, though, with Plasma Active. | Dec 02 08:18 | |
| Diablo-D3 | raid5 is just a way to stripe data and error correction over drives so the failure of any single drive does not cause data loss | Dec 02 08:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | you dont export the raw drives over the network | Dec 02 08:19 |
| prurigro | Diablo-D3: yea, I just looked it up based on your reaction and I'd definitely misunderstood how raid5 worked- originally I'd thought it was drives where it actually talks arrays | Dec 02 08:19 |
| prurigro | oh hm, ok, your explanation is actually a bit closer to what I was thinking than how wikipedia describes it | Dec 02 08:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | the individual drives do not store coherent data | Dec 02 08:20 |
| prurigro | hmm, the explanation I'm looking at now seems to suggest that it spreads things across disks in such a manner that you can lose any one drive and be fine? | Dec 02 08:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats what I said, yes. | Dec 02 08:21 |
| prurigro | kk, figured, but worth clarifying since I'd misunderstood the first time :) | Dec 02 08:22 |
| prurigro | Diablo-D3: what do you do btw? You seem to know all sorts of things about pretty much everything computer related | Dec 02 08:22 |
| prurigro | usually people fine niches | Dec 02 08:22 |
| prurigro | find* | Dec 02 08:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] for something you can just hack on, exoPC is easy but bulky, not really "mobile"; for ARM, check http://ur1.ca/6abl2 | Dec 02 08:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] gentle reminder: Plasma Bug Days start today at noon UTC (so.. in about 3.5 hours). come join us on #plasma! | Dec 02 08:23 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | prurigro: I do everything, apparently. | Dec 02 08:23 |
| prurigro | Diablo-D3: so it would seem haha | Dec 02 08:23 |
| prurigro | Diablo-D3: well, until I have additional information I'll assume you're planning global conquest | Dec 02 08:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | global conquest is too easy | Dec 02 08:26 |
| prurigro | what is it you desire then? | Dec 02 08:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | dunno | Dec 02 08:29 |
| prurigro | I suppose you wouldn't know so much about everything if you knew what you wanted | Dec 02 08:30 |
| prurigro | btw, anyone (including schestowitz) know where schestowitz is from? I've been killing myself trying to place his accent | Dec 02 08:32 |
| prurigro | its so familiar, yet not quite any of the ones that come to mind | Dec 02 08:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | not sure | Dec 02 08:34 |
| prurigro | well then- the mystery lives on :) | Dec 02 08:35 |
| cubezzz | why not ask him? | Dec 02 08:35 |
| cubezzz | he'll probably pop in here soon | Dec 02 08:36 |
| prurigro | I never think about it when he's active, but hey- sounds good, he did say he was pulling an all nighter didn't he | Dec 02 08:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | does he even sleep? | Dec 02 08:36 |
| prurigro | do any of us? :) | Dec 02 08:37 |
| prurigro | 40hours so far over here | Dec 02 08:37 |
| cubezzz | I sleep 8 hours a day usually | Dec 02 08:37 |
| prurigro | lucky | Dec 02 08:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | Im usually up 18-24, then sleep 8-10 | Dec 02 08:37 |
| prurigro | I'm closer to Diablo-D3's schedule normally | Dec 02 08:38 |
| cubezzz | if I sleep less, I feel bad, if I sleep more, same | Dec 02 08:38 |
| prurigro | I like that DMT drip that starts once the melatonin gives up and returns to the pineal gland for some metabolism | Dec 02 08:38 |
| cubezzz | stopped drinking coffee | Dec 02 08:39 |
| cubezzz | well, almost stopped | Dec 02 08:39 |
| cubezzz | once a week I suppose | Dec 02 08:39 |
| prurigro | cubezzz: you're on the right track- too little starves your happy receptors of 5-ht, while too much appears to cause over sensitization in some DA regions due to other NTs getting shut down | Dec 02 08:40 |
| *scientes has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | Dec 02 08:40 | |
| prurigro | cubezzz: I try to keep caffeine intake to a minimum as well-- has a nasty withdrawal | Dec 02 08:40 |
| prurigro | Diablo-D3: if your clock runs on a 36 hour cycle, you're telomeres technically shorten the same amount in 36 hours as someone with a 24 hour clock's do in 24hours | Dec 02 08:42 |
| prurigro | meaning you actually age slower | Dec 02 08:42 |
| prurigro | your* | Dec 02 08:43 |
| cubezzz | that's a big difference | Dec 02 08:44 |
| cubezzz | circadian rhythms are supposedly on a 24-hour cycle | Dec 02 08:44 |
| cubezzz | at least, that feels more normal to me | Dec 02 08:44 |
| prurigro | cubezzz: I might be a bit off, but by the time you're 40, your biological age can be as low as ~30 and as high as 50 | Dec 02 08:45 |
| prurigro | cubezzz: typical circadian rhythms are 24 hours | Dec 02 08:45 |
| prurigro | they range though, and it seems correlated with mitosis (hence telomere shortening) | Dec 02 08:45 |
| cubezzz | I've heard that sleeping a lot can make you age faster | Dec 02 08:45 |
| DaemonFC | http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?65315-The-Gallium3D-Cell-Driver-Gets-Dropped-Too&p=240736#post240736 | Dec 02 08:45 |
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| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 02 08:46 |
| prurigro | you actually have two circadian rhythms, one based on light sensitivity while the other is completely cutoff | Dec 02 08:46 |
| cubezzz | I haven't heard that sleeping way less makes you age slower though | Dec 02 08:46 |
| prurigro | cubezzz: typically, you want to sleep the amount of hours your body is designed to sleep | Dec 02 08:46 |
| prurigro | you need to get that extremely illegal drug DMT excreted into your system to trigger growth hormone release to encourage repairs as far as proper healing goes, and getting the correct amount of sleep allows this to happen + recovery in other directions | Dec 02 08:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Government Representatives Using 'Cybersecurity,' 'Terrorism' As Excuses To Further Trample The Bill Of Rights http://goo.gl/UZJB9 | Dec 02 08:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Government Representatives Using 'Cybersecurity,' 'Terrorism' As Excuses To Further Trample The Bill Of Rights | Techdirt .::. Size~: 92.38 KB | Dec 02 08:48 |
| DaemonFC | "Either this judge is one of those ignorant old "internet is a series of tubes" farts, and should recuse himself, or he's been bribed by Sony and should be removed from the bench. Those are really the only two possibilities for him siding with Sony in light of such a perfect argument by the Plantiffs. " -me | Dec 02 08:48 |
| DaemonFC | edited it to add that :) | Dec 02 08:48 |
| prurigro | cubezzz: so while sleeping for 12 hours might do you more harm than good, Diablo-D3 might do just as much harm getting 8 hour | Dec 02 08:49 |
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| prurigro | s | Dec 02 08:49 |
| DaemonFC | I'm glad I'm not a party to that lawsuit | Dec 02 08:50 |
| prurigro | not that we're talking about anything even remotely noteworthy compared to sun damage, stress, malnutrition etc | Dec 02 08:50 |
| DaemonFC | I could be held in contempt of the court for saying that if I was | Dec 02 08:50 |
| cubezzz | I think sleep is important though | Dec 02 08:50 |
| DaemonFC | but, you know it's true | Dec 02 08:50 |
| cubezzz | of course eating right, exercising, vitamin D (sunlight) is important too | Dec 02 08:51 |
| DaemonFC | he either has no clue about the case he's presiding over | Dec 02 08:51 |
| DaemonFC | or he's been bribed by Sony | Dec 02 08:51 |
| prurigro | cubezzz: too much sunlight is bad too though | Dec 02 08:51 |
| prurigro | my dad went to california when he was 35 | Dec 02 08:51 |
| cubezzz | lol, not much danger of that prurigro | Dec 02 08:51 |
| cubezzz | us computer types are indoors a lot | Dec 02 08:51 |
| prurigro | and got ID'd literally everywhere | Dec 02 08:51 |
| prurigro | and lol | Dec 02 08:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @junkiesxl keytrade begint dat toch te snappen. Leren veel uit hun fouten | Dec 02 08:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp aha! Ik had het op mijn smartphone gewild die tegelijkertijd dienst doet als afstandsbediening. | Dec 02 08:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @jensdehaese nee, ING is nog eens zoveel slechter. | Dec 02 08:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp IP Control op uw digicorder eisen en zelf programma app bouwen met http://ur1.ca/6acet. Helaas w http://ur1. ... | Dec 02 08:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp "fucking" gebruiken om zin kracht bij te zetten lukt alleen met Justin Bieber. Een constructie b http://ur1. ... | Dec 02 08:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @greetd je zit duidelijk niet bij ING. Ik zit ook bij keytrade en bnp paribas fortis. Wereld van verschil. | Dec 02 08:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Choisissez doet @xavez aan buikdansen? | Dec 02 08:51 | |
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| prurigro | canada too | Dec 02 08:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @erikmannens: Our #MediaFragments URI 1.0 Specification is just published as a #W3C Candidate Recom http://ur1. ... | Dec 02 08:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp Er zijn genoeg business models in de open source/open data wereld om er nog geld uit te halen - http://ur1. ... | Dec 02 08:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp hoezo? Dit draait enkel rond integratie met andere zaken zoals smartphone/domotica/bash-scriptjes... | Dec 02 08:51 | |
| cubezzz | :-/ | Dec 02 08:51 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: What do you think about Sony removing OtherOS? | Dec 02 08:52 |
| DaemonFC | do you agree with the Plantiffs (and my opinion) that a core feature was removed and that Sony is guilty of false advertising? | Dec 02 08:52 |
| DaemonFC | or do you think that OtherOS somehow qualifies as a "service" subject to removal via their EULA? | Dec 02 08:52 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp Amai! Straks word je nog opensourceactivist | Dec 02 08:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Beste ING, als jullie denken dat je met zo een online interface kan concurreren met andere banken dan v http://ur1. ... | Dec 02 08:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @tdelestre 4 x ingelogd om te zien dat rekeningafschriften niet gedownload kunnen worden door onderhoud http://ur1. ... | Dec 02 08:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Getting work done like a boss. #abouttime | Dec 02 08:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp Dat zou ik nog in twijfel durven trekken. Openstellen is wss 1 instelling en een app schrijft @meon in no time. | Dec 02 08:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Soms vind ik discussies op twitter belangrijker dan studeren. Is dat ook een vorm van #procrastinatie? | Dec 02 08:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @jenssegers meen je het? Wist ik niet... | Dec 02 08:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @DirDigEng: EU Open Data Strategy press conference now re-scheduled for 5 December "TBC" http://t.co/wrgASZQo | Dec 02 08:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @BartHanssens met de CEO gebabbeld op #ogdcamp in Warschau. Interessante man! | Dec 02 08:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @swersanne super! | Dec 02 08:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 02 08:53 |
| cubezzz | ok, can we stop the tweeting or whatever the hell it is? | Dec 02 08:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Apple, #Samsung Dispute Likely To Turn On 1994 Knight-Ridder Tablet - http://bit.ly/tRB5C3 now this could be significant | Dec 02 08:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Value Is In The Relationship, Not The MP3 File - http://bit.ly/rVDd59 is this so hard to understand? #businessmodels | Dec 02 08:55 | |
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| cubezzz | have one tweet per 30 seconds | Dec 02 08:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] MafiaaFire Just Killed All Current And Future #Copyright Industry #Censorship - http://bit.ly/trA3Fb yup | Dec 02 08:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Biggest Disruptive Tools to Come for Life Sciences...From Google? - http://onforb.es/uXIBSJ as predicted in 2004 here: http://bit.ly/9kXuri | Dec 02 09:00 | |
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| MinceR | i have an ExpressCard SSD i wanted to use as root, but it overheats like a bitch | Dec 02 09:20 |
| MinceR | geekings | Dec 02 09:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @glynmoody: MafiaaFire Just Killed All Current And Future #Copyright Industry #Censorship - http://bit.ly/trA3Fb yup | Dec 02 09:25 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?65315-The-Gallium3D-Cell-Driver-Gets-Dropped-Too&p=240738#post240738 | Dec 02 09:27 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: Do you have a Phony Paystation? | Dec 02 09:31 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 02 09:31 |
| MinceR | nope | Dec 02 09:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] @evan thx will inform him | Dec 02 09:33 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?65056-FreeBSD-9.0-RC2-Arrives-Late-Pushes-Back-Final&p=240740#post240740 | Dec 02 09:45 |
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| DaemonFC | "My problem with MINIX is not that it exists. My problem with MINIX is HOW it exists and that the attitude of Andrew Tanenbaum in most ways is more cantankerous and caustic than what I'm used to seeing out of FreeBSD developers and promoters. | Dec 02 09:46 |
| DaemonFC | Not only does he have something that probably wouldn't exist in a free market, he tries to claim it is superior to what the free market has produced. The free market has produced and made popular Linux and the BSDs. No matter what side of that fence you're on, they have succeeded where they have succeeded on their own merit without the assistance of monopolies or government welfare.The European Union giving Tanenbaum a grant is the high tech | Dec 02 09:46 |
| DaemonFC | equivalent of paying someone to dig ditches and fill them back in when they're done. | Dec 02 09:46 |
| DaemonFC | I would say Tanenbaum probably fits the bill for a "small government for thee and not for me" conservative. Those types tend to blast the government for corporate welfare and bailouts that don't improve the economy, but only when they're not the ones benefiting from the handout." -me | Dec 02 09:46 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 02 09:46 |
| DaemonFC | MINIX is a welfare case | Dec 02 09:47 |
| DaemonFC | it's novel, but not useful | Dec 02 09:47 |
| MinceR | i thought it was an educational case study | Dec 02 09:47 |
| DaemonFC | he even put it under a free to steal license trying to get people to use it instead of Linux | Dec 02 09:47 |
| MinceR | Tanenbaum's bad attitude makes that worse, though | Dec 02 09:47 |
| DaemonFC | and the people that have a problem with the GPL still tend to license Vxworks | Dec 02 09:47 |
| MinceR | why not one of the bsd-s? | Dec 02 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | it happens | Dec 02 09:50 |
| DaemonFC | but embedded systems tend to be Linux or Vxworks | Dec 02 09:50 |
| DaemonFC | at least from what I typically run into | Dec 02 09:50 |
| DaemonFC | I've never seen anything embedded that shows any sign of running MINIX | Dec 02 09:51 |
| DaemonFC | if it doesn, they've gone to great lengths to hide the fact that they use it | Dec 02 09:51 |
| DaemonFC | *does | Dec 02 09:51 |
| DaemonFC | which makes me wonder if MINIX is ever used in production at all | Dec 02 09:51 |
| DaemonFC | or if it's a Plan 9 type academic OS | Dec 02 09:52 |
| DaemonFC | that features some ideas for things you could put into practice elsewhere but generally is not directly used | Dec 02 09:52 |
| MinceR | iirc even MINIX3 is seriously lacking in modern OS features | Dec 02 09:52 |
| DaemonFC | it has some interesting ideas, but most of them come at too high a price | Dec 02 09:53 |
| DaemonFC | which is why you never see anyone else doing things that way | Dec 02 09:53 |
| DaemonFC | I'd like to see a microkernel system scaling to over 4,000 processors | Dec 02 09:54 |
| DaemonFC | or managing terabytes of memory | Dec 02 09:54 |
| DaemonFC | as far as I know, nobody has done that | Dec 02 09:54 |
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| prurigro | I'd like to second cubezzz's comment about ending the feedbot-- maybe we could have a #techrights-feed channel or something, for pure feeds and no convo? | Dec 02 10:04 |
| msb__ | I'm a very minor participant here, but if the feedbot is the thing that prints out all those "<TechrightsBot-tr>" and "[Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights" lines in this channel then I'd like to keep it. The conversations are good, but I've often found some very interesting news from those notices. Having both together keeps either from being boring. | Dec 02 10:08 |
| msb__ | Also, those new items sometimes stimulate conversation topics. | Dec 02 10:10 |
| msb__ | new->news | Dec 02 10:10 |
| MinceR | msb__: would a separate channel keep that from working? | Dec 02 10:20 |
| prurigro | msb__: I agree, the feedbot has good news, but it also dumps like 30 stories at once sometimes which can fragment conversation-- would two channels not make sense? | Dec 02 10:20 |
| prurigro | :) | Dec 02 10:20 |
| MinceR | we could copy the lines we're reacting to here, and talk about them here | Dec 02 10:20 |
| Brendan_T | i like having links spewed at me too, but no the identica posts which are random convos or useless comments | Dec 02 10:21 |
| MinceR | meanwhile the feed channel could be moderated, with the bots having voice or op | Dec 02 10:21 |
| prurigro | if anything, I sometimes miss articles because they blend in with conversation text as often as articles disrupt conversation | Dec 02 10:21 |
| msb__ | I could certainly do without the news lines that have no links. They're pretty useless. | Dec 02 10:22 |
| prurigro | MinceR: I like that idea-- op/voice could be exclusive to bots in there, and exclusive to contributing members in here | Dec 02 10:22 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=gcc_42_47snapshot&num=1 | Dec 02 10:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] Benchmarks Of GCC 4.2 Through GCC 4.7 Compilers .::. Size~: 17.84 KB | Dec 02 10:22 |
| DaemonFC | the only users of GCC 4.2 are Apple and BSDs | Dec 02 10:23 |
| DaemonFC | to avoid the GPL 3 | Dec 02 10:23 |
| prurigro | seems everyone agrees about the conversation feeds | Dec 02 10:23 |
| prurigro | besides, we'll still have the DaemonFC feed | Dec 02 10:23 |
| MinceR | lol | Dec 02 10:23 |
| msb__ | But with the non-link news lines removed, that would be less interruption of conversations. | Dec 02 10:23 |
| prurigro | :) (all love DaemonFC) | Dec 02 10:23 |
| msb__ | So maybe we could be happy with both here in one channel. | Dec 02 10:23 |
| msb__ | Somehow I don't think I'd pay as much attention to two channels, requiring flipping back and forth. | Dec 02 10:24 |
| prurigro | msb__: I'd be willing to try without the non-links to see how much of an improvement that is | Dec 02 10:24 |
| msb__ | I everyone's IRC client supports scrolling backwards, its easy to follow interrupted conversations. | Dec 02 10:24 |
| msb__ | prurigro: Great! | Dec 02 10:24 |
| msb__ | I->If | Dec 02 10:25 |
| prurigro | msb__: right now its pretty annoying, even with scrollback- but why not try the simple solution before going for the hardcore one right? | Dec 02 10:25 |
| prurigro | is it just schestowitz that has powers over the feedbots? | Dec 02 10:26 |
| msb__ | prurigro: Yes, and I think having both together gives an advantage, like hybrid vigor. | Dec 02 10:26 |
| DaemonFC | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/TechnicalOverview/Alpha1 | Dec 02 10:26 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Referenzen zu #DRM und #Antifeatures gesucht und auf http://ur1.ca/6af76 von #BPB gestoßen #Wissenskontrolle durch #DRM | Dec 02 10:26 | |
| msb__ | Both together are better than each separately. For example, news items suggesting conversation topics. | Dec 02 10:26 |
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| msb__ | They sure have for me. | Dec 02 10:27 |
| prurigro | msb__: that said, I don't think two channels would be any worse for the wear- but an unnecessary measure if it would have been fine without | Dec 02 10:27 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu | Dec 02 10:27 |
| DaemonFC | The default music player has been switched to Rhythmbox. There is no UbuntuOne Music Store yet, this still needs to be ported to GTK 3. | Dec 02 10:27 |
| DaemonFC | Lubuntu | Dec 02 10:27 |
| DaemonFC | Lubuntu switched to Lightdm for the standard display manager. | Dec 02 10:27 |
| prurigro | DaemonFC: they couldn't just go with gtk2? | Dec 02 10:27 |
| DaemonFC | ewww, nasty | Dec 02 10:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] R» @parlementum: The #linux-libre 3.1.4-1 kernel is out in the wild on #parabola | Dec 02 10:28 | |
| DaemonFC | no Kubuntu 12.04 alpha 1 | Dec 02 10:29 |
| DaemonFC | but the daily builds are being made | Dec 02 10:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EDRi launches complaint on lack of #transparency of European Parliament on #ACTA - http://bit.ly/uCg3m5 well done them (v @jmcest) | Dec 02 10:30 | |
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| prurigro | msb__: yea, I guess like anything else its all about balance in the end | Dec 02 10:30 |
| prurigro | you want enough to inspire conversation when there isn't any, but not so much that it'll get in the way when there is | Dec 02 10:31 |
| prurigro | I haven't been watching closely enough to see how many are links vs those strange conversations | Dec 02 10:31 |
| prurigro | schestowitz: when you catch this conversation, what do you think? | Dec 02 10:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] This video definitely puts the pepper spray thing in perspective. As always, truth is not simple. Watch it please. http... http://b1t.it/4Gx | Dec 02 10:33 | |
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| msb__ | prurigro: Looks like about half and half. There are spews of each. | Dec 02 10:33 |
| prurigro | msb__: I think if it staggered them, it would be better too | Dec 02 10:34 |
| prurigro | it seems like it waits some period, like 20 minutes or whatever | Dec 02 10:34 |
| prurigro | and then dumps all the updated posts | Dec 02 10:34 |
| msb__ | Could be. | Dec 02 10:34 |
| prurigro | checking every 5 minutes might be better practice | Dec 02 10:34 |
| msb__ | Easy enough to have the bot check for the strings "http" and "https" to decide what to post here. | Dec 02 10:35 |
| msb__ | prurigro: Checking more often -- very good idea! | Dec 02 10:36 |
| msb__ | No downside to that. | Dec 02 10:36 |
| prurigro | except possibly bandwidth? though that's only assuming there are no updates sometimes | Dec 02 10:36 |
| msb__ | Not sure what you mean, but text takes very little bandwidth. | Dec 02 10:37 |
| prurigro | and the effort to check even less | Dec 02 10:37 |
| prurigro | true that | Dec 02 10:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: Conservatives Defeat Lib, NDP Bid to Block C-11: is there room 4 compromise on digital locks & fair dealing? http://t.co/P6 ... | Dec 02 10:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: ACP:"..who circumvent TPMs but do not distribute unlocked materials or otherwise infringe on copyright in a fair-dealing co ... | Dec 02 10:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: RT @Mark_Goldberg: RT @michaeloliveira: Bell has joined Rogers and Telus in saying it does not use Carrier IQ #cdntech | Dec 02 10:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: RT @csoghoian: Massive cache of surveillance industry docs (collaboration btwn Wikileaks, Privacy Intl & Bugged http://ur1. ... | Dec 02 10:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: RT @publicknowledge: PK to Copyright Office: Let People Rip Their Own DVDs http://t.co/ABBTZxHb | Dec 02 10:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: RT @ARLpolicy: The #PATRIOTAct is dragging down U.S. cloud technology companies as they compete abroad. http://t.co/jcVinQVF | Dec 02 10:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: The Daily Digital Lock Dissenter, Day 42: Association of Canadian Publishers - reps 135 Cdn owned publishers http://t.co/Ho ... | Dec 02 10:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: RT @sunil_abraham: RT @thornet: Map of internet, phone & SMS monitoring, GPS tracking and trojan software by co http://ur1. ... | Dec 02 10:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: ACP: "Penalties for circumventing TPMs must apply only to cases of actual infringement. There is no merit in pe http://ur1. ... | Dec 02 10:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: RT @JohnIbbitson: upcoming Tory bill could let cops watch your every online move. http://t.co/sBXZvBkb | Dec 02 10:38 | |
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| prurigro | lol | Dec 02 10:38 |
| msb__ | They're all the same kind of line, but a few have links and the rest don't. | Dec 02 10:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: RT @fightpiracy: Copyright Corruption Scandal Surrounds Anti-Piracy Campaign http://t.co/FfPFL7nT | Dec 02 10:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: RT @MobileSyrup: Rogers and Telus confirm that Carrier IQ is not present on their devices http://t.co/iQjncLwZ | Dec 02 10:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 02 10:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 02 10:40 |
| prurigro | msb__: yea, the others seem like tweets | Dec 02 10:41 |
| prurigro | maybe there could be a twitter list for techrights that people can subscribe to if they want to view all the people being followed | Dec 02 10:41 |
| msb__ | followed? | Dec 02 10:42 |
| prurigro | twitter for subscribing to their feed | Dec 02 10:42 |
| prurigro | twitter has lists where techrights could 'follow' 10 people say, and if someone was so inclined they could subscribe to that list to see all 10 people's feeds | Dec 02 10:43 |
| msb__ | Those are the people whose tweets/dents we're seeing here? | Dec 02 10:43 |
| DaemonFC | "Note: You do not have DSL Internet service on this account, so there is no usage to measure." | Dec 02 10:43 |
| DaemonFC | DSL is the only thing I have on that account | Dec 02 10:44 |
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| prurigro | the most recent one has xface saying RT which means 're-tweet' | Dec 02 10:45 |
| prurigro | I've assumed the rest :) | Dec 02 10:45 |
| msb__ | From one of those linked pages: "A musician who composed a track for use at a local film festival later found it being used without permission in an anti-piracy campaign. He is now claiming at least a million euros" | Dec 02 10:48 |
| iophk | http://torrentfreak.com/copyright-corruption-scandal-surrounds-anti-piracy-campaign-111201/ | Dec 02 10:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 02 10:49 |
| msb__ | It was such a relief 11 years ago when I switched from bought software to free software. Imagine how much simpler life would be with free media. | Dec 02 10:49 |
| prurigro | msb__: hey, that's when I switched too- twins! | Dec 02 10:50 |
| prurigro | the upcoming xp didn't impress you either? | Dec 02 10:50 |
| msb__ | Maybe just charge everybody a little more for bandwidth and distribute that money to the artists, actors, and production companies. | Dec 02 10:50 |
| prurigro | I disagree with that philosophy | Dec 02 10:51 |
| msb__ | I don't think I got beyond Windows 3.1. | Dec 02 10:51 |
| prurigro | canada tried something similar with a tax on mp3players and cdrs | Dec 02 10:51 |
| msb__ | I was on a modem hookup from home to a Unix system at a university. | Dec 02 10:51 |
| msb__ | I wrote a terminal program in BASIC that could up/download files. | Dec 02 10:52 |
| prurigro | that assumes both that people are using their internet connection for music etc and that the specific artists represented by whichever organization is getting the cheque are the ones being listened too-- basically destroys competition :) | Dec 02 10:52 |
| prurigro | word, so you stuck with that and dos until xp was practically out? | Dec 02 10:53 |
| msb__ | Until I heard about this "Linux" thing. | Dec 02 10:53 |
| DaemonFC | Marco Biscaro (marcobiscaro2112) wrote on 2011-06-17: #4 | Dec 02 10:53 |
| DaemonFC | This is a valid issue. There is another discussion here in launchpad about the search results in "Available for Download" section (like PornView being shown when you search by 'movie'). | Dec 02 10:53 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 02 10:54 |
| msb__ | No, actually I switched to a commercial Unix system for some years. Forgot about that. | Dec 02 10:54 |
| msb__ | Still via modem. | Dec 02 10:54 |
| prurigro | msb__: via university? | Dec 02 10:55 |
| msb__ | Unix (Linux) on my own PC was amazing! | Dec 02 10:55 |
| msb__ | I had my PC at home, and first modemed to university Unix (which cost money for connect time), and then modemed to a commercial online service that also had Unix. | Dec 02 10:56 |
| prurigro | I cant remember if you'd told me which distro you'd started with last we'd chatted? | Dec 02 10:57 |
| msb__ | Then got an ISP, still via modem, I think, and soon via cable-tv which was much faster. | Dec 02 10:57 |
| msb__ | Suse, and have always stayed with it. | Dec 02 10:58 |
| prurigro | what year was this? | Dec 02 10:58 |
| msb__ | I guess about 2000. | Dec 02 10:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | [03:42:15] <prurigro> Diablo-D3: if your clock runs on a 36 hour cycle, you're telomeres technically shorten the same amount in 36 hours as someone with a 24 hour clock's do in 24hours | Dec 02 10:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | yes, but for some reason I get pissed faster. | Dec 02 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | The town has finally implemented a suggestion I made last year | Dec 02 10:58 |
| prurigro | Diablo-D3: this is an entirely different system my friend :) | Dec 02 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | regarding trash pickup | Dec 02 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | issue 96 gallon trash containers to each house | Dec 02 10:59 |
| DaemonFC | invest in one of those trucks that just picks them up with a set of forks | Dec 02 10:59 |
| DaemonFC | that way you only need one worker per truck | Dec 02 10:59 |
| prurigro | Diablo-D3: is it an aggressive pissed, or a frustrated one? | Dec 02 10:59 |
| DaemonFC | and they can pick trash up about half again as fast per truck | Dec 02 10:59 |
| msb__ | prurigro: I never used MS-Windows at home. Just PC-DOS and terminal emulator, and then Linux. | Dec 02 11:00 |
| prurigro | msb__: is suse rolling these days? | Dec 02 11:00 |
| prurigro | lucky you :) | Dec 02 11:00 |
| prurigro | probably saved much theoretical headache | Dec 02 11:00 |
| msb__ | I think it's doing ok. | Dec 02 11:00 |
| msb__ | I'm still using KDE3 because the multiple desktops don't work in KDE4. | Dec 02 11:01 |
| DaemonFC | there was Desqview X | Dec 02 11:01 |
| DaemonFC | for DOS | Dec 02 11:01 |
| DaemonFC | it let you run X11 on DOS | Dec 02 11:01 |
| prurigro | msb__: I meant rolling release, rather haha | Dec 02 11:01 |
| msb__ | Suse has a KDE3 repo. | Dec 02 11:01 |
| prurigro | I'm sure it's rollin' | Dec 02 11:01 |
| msb__ | It may have that, but people in the Suse IRC recommend against it. | Dec 02 11:02 |
| prurigro | ahh, yea, if its not built to be rolling, its not a good idea to force it | Dec 02 11:02 |
| msb__ | I wrote a big program using Desqview (not -X). | Dec 02 11:02 |
| msb__ | I'm very conservative about version upgrades. It always takes me at least a week to get all my scripts and such running again. | Dec 02 11:03 |
| prurigro | msb__: that's why I like rolling distros | Dec 02 11:03 |
| prurigro | after trying to use builtin upgrade tools with numerous distros at first, I started simply formatting and starting over | Dec 02 11:04 |
| msb__ | I like to have all the pain at once. 8^) | Dec 02 11:04 |
| prurigro | then I switched to gentoo | Dec 02 11:04 |
| prurigro | haha, there's not much pain when you're rolling | Dec 02 11:04 |
| prurigro | everything's slow, so the people testing run into all errors quickly and fix them | Dec 02 11:05 |
| prurigro | upgrading everything at once leaves so many bugs there are bound to be a bunch that go unnoticed | Dec 02 11:05 |
| msb__ | I just wait a few months. | Dec 02 11:05 |
| msb__ | I guess I'm a leech. | Dec 02 11:05 |
| prurigro | haha, naw- some people want stuff earlier, other people want stability | Dec 02 11:06 |
| prurigro | both groups are fair | Dec 02 11:06 |
| msb__ | Although when I found bugs in KDE4, nobody was interested. | Dec 02 11:06 |
| prurigro | interesting | Dec 02 11:06 |
| prurigro | no bug tracker? | Dec 02 11:07 |
| msb__ | I mentioned the problems in their IRC channel, and the basically told me it was my problem, not theirs. | Dec 02 11:07 |
| msb__ | You can't read the desktop names in the desktop-pager applet in KDE4. | Dec 02 11:08 |
| msb__ | They said I had bad eyes. | Dec 02 11:08 |
| msb__ | Also KDE4 insists on the Phonon sound system that doesn't work with my 5 or so year old ASUS mobo, which is fine with ALSA. | Dec 02 11:09 |
| prurigro | hmm, I don't find irc is a very good place to report bugs | Dec 02 11:10 |
| prurigro | in general | Dec 02 11:10 |
| msb__ | Various people (including Brandon/Ender) told me it was my fault for having an old computer. | Dec 02 11:10 |
| prurigro | usually just a bunch of users | Dec 02 11:10 |
| prurigro | Brandon and Ender eh? | Dec 02 11:10 |
| prurigro | what was the issue? | Dec 02 11:10 |
| prurigro | or wait | Dec 02 11:10 |
| prurigro | you mentioned it | Dec 02 11:10 |
| msb__ | In the KDE channel they were some sort of authorities. | Dec 02 11:11 |
| prurigro | hmm, this sounds like maybe a font issue? | Dec 02 11:11 |
| msb__ | Brandon Lozza = Ender | Dec 02 11:11 |
| prurigro | ohhh, I thought you meant the other Brandon | Dec 02 11:11 |
| prurigro | touche though | Dec 02 11:11 |
| msb__ | Each button in the desktop pager in KDE4 contains lots of little rectangles showing the size and location of the windows in that desktop. | Dec 02 11:12 |
| prurigro | I'd be surprised if everything worked except the names on the desktop pager | Dec 02 11:12 |
| prurigro | because your compy was too old | Dec 02 11:12 |
| prurigro | if anything you'd just not get plasma or whatever their effects system is called | Dec 02 11:13 |
| msb__ | THe names are there in a skinny font, but those rectangles obscure them, and they can't be removed. | Dec 02 11:13 |
| prurigro | ohhh | Dec 02 11:13 |
| msb__ | No, had nothing to do with compositing. | Dec 02 11:13 |
| msb__ | Which I never use. | Dec 02 11:13 |
| prurigro | wait | Dec 02 11:13 |
| prurigro | and which part didn't show up? | Dec 02 11:13 |
| msb__ | The desktop names were just obscured by the mini-window rectangles in the pager buttons -- visual noise. | Dec 02 11:14 |
| msb__ | Like lots of scribbles. | Dec 02 11:14 |
| msb__ | If you had no windows in a desktop, there'd be no rectangles in the button and you could read the name. | Dec 02 11:15 |
| prurigro | hmmm, I bet you it has something to do with non-compositing not being tested as thoroughly or something | Dec 02 11:15 |
| prurigro | I remember I had almost the reverse problem in gnome | Dec 02 11:15 |
| msb__ | how so? | Dec 02 11:16 |
| prurigro | with compiz fusion since it was developed for use without | Dec 02 11:16 |
| msb__ | I grew up using teletypes to communicate with computers. | Dec 02 11:16 |
| prurigro | all the windows would appear compressed along a single desktop that made up the cube | Dec 02 11:16 |
| msb__ | I want the UI to be functional, not entertaining. | Dec 02 11:17 |
| msb__ | For visual entertainment I watch a movie. | Dec 02 11:17 |
| prurigro | haha | Dec 02 11:17 |
| prurigro | I'm surprised you don't use xfce? | Dec 02 11:17 |
| prurigro | a friend of mine actually uses a cool setup | Dec 02 11:18 |
| msb__ | I have 20 desktops -- Mail, Music Personal, Linux, Science, Website, etc. | Dec 02 11:18 |
| msb__ | People keep telling me that. I'll have to try it sometime. | Dec 02 11:18 |
| prurigro | basically has no window decorations, and he has a terminal + firefox sharing a screen | Dec 02 11:18 |
| prurigro | firefox has vim bindings, and the terminal has all his apps screen'd | Dec 02 11:19 |
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| prurigro | 20! | Dec 02 11:19 |
| prurigro | wow | Dec 02 11:19 |
| msb__ | Interesting, but too retro for me. | Dec 02 11:19 |
| prurigro | no cmus for you? :) | Dec 02 11:19 |
| msb__ | cmu? | Dec 02 11:19 |
| prurigro | cmus = command line rhythmbox/amarok like music player | Dec 02 11:20 |
| prurigro | then you can irc in a term, and use a plugin to get IM in irc | Dec 02 11:21 |
| prurigro | development of course takes place in a term | Dec 02 11:21 |
| msb__ | I have about 5-10 windows -- konsoles with mc in them, firefox, and other programs -- in each desktop, and about 10 in all the desktops. | Dec 02 11:21 |
| prurigro | no tmux? | Dec 02 11:21 |
| msb__ | tmux? | Dec 02 11:21 |
| prurigro | omg, you don't know tmux? | Dec 02 11:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Linux Torvalds seems to be softening his attitude to !Gnome 3 http://goo.gl/fTWKe | Dec 02 11:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linus Torvalds Starts Liking Gnome 3 | Muktware .::. Size~: 35.83 KB | Dec 02 11:21 |
| prurigro | you know screen right? | Dec 02 11:22 |
| iophk | tmux is a simpler terminal multiplexer than screen. | Dec 02 11:22 |
| msb__ | I'm fine with X. | Dec 02 11:22 |
| iophk | screen's a lot more configurable and powerful. | Dec 02 11:22 |
| prurigro | iophk: simpler to use, but it does more | Dec 02 11:22 |
| prurigro | hmm, can you configure screen to scrollback? | Dec 02 11:22 |
| prurigro | copy/paste? | Dec 02 11:22 |
| prurigro | msb__: no sshing into remote boxes? | Dec 02 11:23 |
| msb__ | For development I just use multiple konsole/mc windows looking at the various files. | Dec 02 11:23 |
| msb__ | Nope. | Dec 02 11:23 |
| prurigro | word | Dec 02 11:23 |
| prurigro | one of the good things about screen/tmux is that you can close the window, and your session continues to run | Dec 02 11:24 |
| oiaohm | prurigro: tmux is mostly bsd users. gnu screen is basically the gnu mirror to it. | Dec 02 11:24 |
| oiaohm | prurigro: its common for a lot of Linux people not to know tmux | Dec 02 11:24 |
| iophk | I thought tmux was much newer. | Dec 02 11:24 |
| oiaohm | like its common for a lot of bsd people not to know gnu screen. | Dec 02 11:24 |
| prurigro | oiaohm: no kidding-- I could never get screen to scroll back- and yea, I thought tmux was newer too iophk | Dec 02 11:24 |
| msb__ | I just use ftp to upload files to my website. | Dec 02 11:24 |
| prurigro | msb__, I recently discovered lftp-- use it? | Dec 02 11:25 |
| msb__ | I use gFTP | Dec 02 11:25 |
| prurigro | ahh haha | Dec 02 11:25 |
| prurigro | lftp has a cool mirror function | Dec 02 11:25 |
| prurigro | that only updates changed files | Dec 02 11:25 |
| prurigro | if you have a local and remote copy | Dec 02 11:26 |
| msb__ | Actually, I think mc (which I use constantly) will do ftp, but don't know if it will do secure ftp. | Dec 02 11:26 |
| prurigro | sftp is essentially ssh | Dec 02 11:26 |
| oiaohm | prurigro: ever seen neercs | Dec 02 11:27 |
| prurigro | oiaohm: that I have not-- what is it? | Dec 02 11:27 |
| msb__ | I write the html for my web pages by hand. But for this one I wrote a bash script to translate from a text file: | Dec 02 11:27 |
| prurigro | msb__: by hand is the only way to fly- and hmm? | Dec 02 11:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Billionaire patent troll Paul Allen wants science data to be opened up http://goo.gl/fTWKe So even hypocrites can be right twice a day? | Dec 02 11:28 | |
| oiaohm | prurigro: its screen spelt backwards and it also a very warped project. http://caca.zoy.org/wiki/neercs Particularly the code license | Dec 02 11:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linus Torvalds Starts Liking Gnome 3 | Muktware .::. Size~: 35.83 KB | Dec 02 11:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: neercs – Caca Labs .::. Size~: 7.09 KB | Dec 02 11:28 |
| msb__ | http://cosmicpenguin.com/linux/MICROSOFTS_WAR_AGAINST_LINUX.html | Dec 02 11:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: MICROSOFT'S WAR AGAINST LINUX .::. Size~: 22.24 KB | Dec 02 11:28 |
| DaemonFC | have to take my mom to the hospital in a few hours | Dec 02 11:29 |
| DaemonFC | haven't slept since Wednesday | Dec 02 11:29 |
| MinceR | nc miku.acm.uiuc.edu 23 | Dec 02 11:29 |
| DaemonFC | unless you count passing out in front of her TV For about 20 minutes | Dec 02 11:29 |
| msb__ | DaemonFC: You shouldn't drive sleepy. | Dec 02 11:30 |
| DaemonFC | I've drove on less sleep | Dec 02 11:30 |
| prurigro | oiaohm: lol! that sounds awesome | Dec 02 11:30 |
| msb__ | You can die. I almost did. | Dec 02 11:30 |
| prurigro | considered it downloaded | Dec 02 11:30 |
| DaemonFC | I can stay awake for about a week | Dec 02 11:31 |
| prurigro | DaemonFC: why no sleep? | Dec 02 11:31 |
| oiaohm | prurigro: there is also byobu what is a configuration tool for gnu screen to make it more friendly. https://launchpad.net/byobu | Dec 02 11:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: byobu in Launchpad .::. Size~: 33.06 KB | Dec 02 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | she broke her leg | Dec 02 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | so I do everything I'm supposed to and a lot of her stuff until she gets better | Dec 02 11:32 |
| oiaohm | prurigro: basically that is the 4 combinations. ie tmux, neercs, screen and byobu controlling screen that you will find people using. | Dec 02 11:32 |
| oiaohm | prurigro: of course a lot of people don't know the full set of them. | Dec 02 11:33 |
| prurigro | oiaohm: you don't say-- so do you know if screen can do scrollback? that's one of the primary reasons I switched to tmux.. I don't actually use copy/paste much | Dec 02 11:33 |
| prurigro | oiaohm, yea, I'd only known about screen and tmux till tonight | Dec 02 11:33 |
| oiaohm | prurigro: Yes it can be got todo scroll back. Configuring it to do so is a pain in the but without byodu | Dec 02 11:33 |
| oiaohm | prurigro: the manual way of setting the scroll back in screen. http://www.samsarin.com/blog/2007/03/11/gnu-screen-working-with-the-scrollback-buffer/ | Dec 02 11:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: GNU Screen: Working with the Scrollback Buffer — Samsarin .::. Size~: 57.26 KB | Dec 02 11:35 |
| msb__ | DaemonFC: 5,000 ug vitamin K-2 Menatetrenone -- Nature's Life Vitamin K2 -- very good for bone strength. | Dec 02 11:35 |
| prurigro | oiaohm: arch is grabbing neercs-- does byodu configure that as well? | Dec 02 11:35 |
| oiaohm | prurigro: no neercs and screen are completely not releated programs so byodu will not work with it. | Dec 02 11:36 |
| msb__ | Removes calcium from blood-vessel walls (hardened arteries) and puts it in bones where it belongs. | Dec 02 11:36 |
| prurigro | ahh kk | Dec 02 11:36 |
| oiaohm | prurigro: basically neercs was started by people pissed off with screen. | Dec 02 11:36 |
| prurigro | oiaohm: pissed off about its lack of rotating desktop? haha | Dec 02 11:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] R» @bernat: Oh, I'd rather hear Linus talk about the kernel than desktops | Dec 02 11:36 | |
| oiaohm | prurigro: tmux was basically started in the bsd camp who wanted something with a non gpl but not something with neercs with a license not tested in court. | Dec 02 11:37 |
| prurigro | oh so tmux is more recent then? | Dec 02 11:37 |
| oiaohm | Yes tmux is the most recent. | Dec 02 11:37 |
| prurigro | word-- kk yea, that makes sense; and if it's got anything on screen I'd say its that the default options are ++ | Dec 02 11:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] R» @robmyers @glynmoody: MafiaaFire Just Killed All Current And Future #Copyright Industry #Censorship - http://bit.ly/trA3Fb | Dec 02 11:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: MafiaaFire Just Killed All Current And Future Copyright Industry Censorship - Falkvinge on Infopolicy .::. Size~: 234.62 KB | Dec 02 11:38 |
| prurigro | oh word, neercs has its own term | Dec 02 11:39 |
| prurigro | not designed for ssh clearly :) | Dec 02 11:39 |
| oiaohm | prurigro: They are all good fun. | Dec 02 11:40 |
| oiaohm | prurigro: particuarly when you stack them inside each other. | Dec 02 11:40 |
| prurigro | hmm, yea, I'm playing with the various 'WM's-- very cool | Dec 02 11:40 |
| prurigro | I can see why this might have needed its own setup | Dec 02 11:41 |
| oiaohm | Really these days I use terminals less and less. prurigro | Dec 02 11:41 |
| msb__ | Wow, this is interesting: http://falkvinge.net/2011/12/01/mafiaafire-just-killed-all-current-and-future-copyright-industry-censorship/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+Falkvinge-on-Infopolicy+%28Falkvinge+on+Infopolicy%29&utm_content=Google+Reader | Dec 02 11:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: MafiaaFire Just Killed All Current And Future Copyright Industry Censorship - Falkvinge on Infopolicy .::. Size~: 234.62 KB | Dec 02 11:41 |
| msb__ | http://bit.ly/trA3Fb | Dec 02 11:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: MafiaaFire Just Killed All Current And Future Copyright Industry Censorship - Falkvinge on Infopolicy .::. Size~: 234.62 KB | Dec 02 11:42 |
| oiaohm | I am more likely to be using cfengine prurigro Mostly because I can send instructions as blocks with some logic at the other end. | Dec 02 11:42 |
| prurigro | oiaohm: cfengine? | Dec 02 11:43 |
| oiaohm | and not have the night mare of being halfway threw a set of instructions and finding I have killed hte network connection some how. | Dec 02 11:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] This video definitely puts the pepper spray thing in perspective. As always, truth is not simple. Watch it please. UPDA... http://b1t.it/4Gx | Dec 02 11:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - If you've got any interest in the UC Davis pepper spray… .::. Size~: 89.93 KB | Dec 02 11:43 |
| prurigro | haha, wouldn't that be where screen tmux come in? | Dec 02 11:43 |
| oiaohm | cfengine.com is configuration manaagement. prurigro | Dec 02 11:45 |
| oiaohm | So you can template system configurations and basically just order templates to be applied to machines. | Dec 02 11:45 |
| prurigro | oh cool-- catering to xen setups? | Dec 02 11:46 |
| oiaohm | It can be used to control a xen setups it really does not care. It job it to apply configuration setting with some brains about doing it. | Dec 02 11:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Google says: 在迦南美地喝咖啡 => "Ground coffee in the United States of Canaan" #LOL #mistranslated #translation #error | Dec 02 11:48 | |
| prurigro | interesting-- I don't think I'd use it to manage personal servers | Dec 02 11:48 |
| prurigro | but for corporate setups that'd be a dream | Dec 02 11:48 |
| oiaohm | prurigro: advantage is if you have done in by cfengine or equal ie most people here of puppet same kind of software just different maker. | Dec 02 11:49 |
| oiaohm | Is that you have exact logs what the hell you messed with. | Dec 02 11:49 |
| oiaohm | So making it many times simpler to fix up that typo that just sent system to hell. | Dec 02 11:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] In a sign that regulation might work after all, it seems no UK networks have installed Carrier IQ. I'm guessing this is http://ur1.ca/6ahtw | Dec 02 11:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Silner (silner)'s status on Friday, 02-Dec-11 11:47:59 UTC - silner .::. Size~: 10.87 KB | Dec 02 11:50 |
| prurigro | oh man, yea, logs are totally key if you're making changes to the file system or configuration | Dec 02 11:50 |
| prurigro | and web based = sweet remote freedom | Dec 02 11:51 |
| oiaohm | cfengine equals nicely hard for attackers to find. | Dec 02 11:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] How does politics work? Lobbyists ask for 500%. Politicians tone it down to 300%. Public outrage brings it down to 200%... http://b1t.it/4I0 | Dec 02 11:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - How does politics work? Lobbyists ask for 500%. Politicians… .::. Size~: 46.54 KB | Dec 02 11:53 |
| oiaohm | prurigro: reason you can run the web based policy editor of cfengine locally and just send the instruction files to server encrypted when you are read for the server to implement them. | Dec 02 11:54 |
| oiaohm | prurigro: and cfengine can be smart enough not to try to run a part a instruction set. | Dec 02 11:54 |
| prurigro | ahh, so either the whole thing or nothing? | Dec 02 11:55 |
| prurigro | I guess your weakest link at that point is the person using it | Dec 02 11:56 |
| oiaohm | prurigro: Depends on how the server is set. | Dec 02 11:56 |
| prurigro | security wise | Dec 02 11:56 |
| oiaohm | cfengine can be set to check if the instructions are signed by a valid person. | Dec 02 11:56 |
| oiaohm | And that they are a complete set of instructions. | Dec 02 11:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Carrier IQ Spyware Discovered in Millions of Phones - The #iPhone has it too - #carrieriq #surveillance #mobile http://goo.gl/Pn7i2 | Dec 02 11:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Carrier IQ Spyware Discovered in Millions of Phones .::. Size~: 155.88 KB | Dec 02 11:56 |
| oiaohm | and if it does get a part set email out hey that set was stuffed or other wise inform the admin of the issue prurigro | Dec 02 11:57 |
| oiaohm | Yes you could have the server irc you or jabber you or sms you. | Dec 02 11:57 |
| prurigro | oh fun | Dec 02 11:59 |
| prurigro | that finally sounds like a decent web based admin tool | Dec 02 11:59 |
| oiaohm | Really these are not 100 percent webbased. | Dec 02 12:01 |
| prurigro | oh? | Dec 02 12:01 |
| oiaohm | Ie I can brew up a cfengine template file locally using a text editor | Dec 02 12:01 |
| oiaohm | Test it in a local chroot | Dec 02 12:01 |
| oiaohm | Then if it works sent to a remote server. | Dec 02 12:01 |
| prurigro | wait, it can interact with local configs? | Dec 02 12:01 |
| oiaohm | Yep. | Dec 02 12:02 |
| oiaohm | This is full blown configuration management. | Dec 02 12:02 |
| oiaohm | Also cfengine can tell you if anything has been changed from the settings it was told to set as well. | Dec 02 12:03 |
| msb__ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cfengine | Dec 02 12:04 |
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| prurigro | sweet- hmm, I gotta take my gf to the train station, but I'm def gonna take a better look at this when I get back-- thx for the cool info oiaohm | Dec 02 12:04 |
| msb__ | It can rule the World! | Dec 02 12:04 |
| prurigro | lol msb__ | Dec 02 12:05 |
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| msb__ | My computer has 1,000 times the clock speed and 10,000 times as much RAM as my original IBM-PC. | Dec 02 12:09 |
| msb__ | And there are 1000 things going on in the computer world that I've never heard of! | Dec 02 12:09 |
| oiaohm | msb__: I guess x86 risc chip | Dec 02 12:13 |
| oiaohm | If intel you have microcode translation between you and the real cpu doing the work. | Dec 02 12:13 |
| msb__ | Intel 8088 vs AMD 64X2 something or other. | Dec 02 12:13 |
| oiaohm | AMD 64x2 are risc chips as well internally with a translator that converts from x86 to internal risc. | Dec 02 12:14 |
| msb__ | Interesting! | Dec 02 12:15 |
| oiaohm | Yes arm is more power effective than x86 partly because it does not have to be translating from one arch to another. | Dec 02 12:15 |
| msb__ | I guess CISC instructions are denser. | Dec 02 12:15 |
| oiaohm | 486 was the last non risc chips made by intel. | Dec 02 12:15 |
| oiaohm | It was more avoiding have to rewite every application msb__ | Dec 02 12:16 |
| MinceR | it would be nice if they exposed a risc instruction set as well | Dec 02 12:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | [05:59:40] <prurigro> Diablo-D3: is it an aggressive pissed, or a frustrated one? | Dec 02 12:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | an all consuming hate | Dec 02 12:17 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: not really then they have to build in special handling for duel instruction set. | Dec 02 12:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] America is doomed. http://is.gd/xGvzKW | Dec 02 12:18 | |
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| msb__ | oiaohm: It's all optimized with the lookahead and multiple execution units. | Dec 02 12:18 |
| MinceR | it would enable rrr addressing though | Dec 02 12:18 |
| MinceR | perhaps even same-length instructions as long as the cpu remains in risc mode | Dec 02 12:19 |
| MinceR | (though that might be a mixed blessing) | Dec 02 12:19 |
| oiaohm | msb__: good in theory. Bad in reality. | Dec 02 12:19 |
| oiaohm | msb__: there is a lot of cases with a x86 chip guess the lookahead wrong. | Dec 02 12:19 |
| oiaohm | msb__: so now has to process CISC so it can go on. This is why intel added hyperthreading. | Dec 02 12:20 |
| oiaohm | so in a case of opps we guessed wrong the hit would not be as bad. | Dec 02 12:20 |
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| msb__ | Amazing! I just hold on for the ride! | Dec 02 12:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] LOL http://ur1.ca/6aiki | Dec 02 12:23 | |
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| oiaohm | Biggest mistake arm had was that the processor did not support out of order processing of information. | Dec 02 12:23 |
| oiaohm | Ie if arm turned out to be missing something it had to stop until the ram could provide it even it still had some code it could been running. | Dec 02 12:24 |
| oiaohm | That it knew would be run. | Dec 02 12:24 |
| MinceR | the compiler can deal with that, can it not? | Dec 02 12:24 |
| oiaohm | out of order processing requirement happens no matter how good you complier is MinceR | Dec 02 12:25 |
| MinceR | order the instructions at compile-time so you know the arch you're targeting will be able to process them with minimal delay | Dec 02 12:25 |
| oiaohm | A in order cpu must processes the instructions in the order it gets them. | Dec 02 12:26 |
| oiaohm | That is the problem. | Dec 02 12:26 |
| oiaohm | Ie you want to read some data from a memory address MinceR | Dec 02 12:26 |
| oiaohm | Data from memory address is not in cpu | Dec 02 12:26 |
| oiaohm | So everything stops in a in order processor until that can be read. | Dec 02 12:26 |
| MinceR | ic | Dec 02 12:27 |
| oiaohm | out of order can skip on to processing the next things down the line. | Dec 02 12:27 |
| oiaohm | So giving time for the memory controller to get the data. | Dec 02 12:27 |
| oiaohm | http://www.cadence.com/Community/blogs/ii/archive/2011/11/17/arm-techcon-paper-why-dram-latency-is-getting-worse.aspx This is also a very interesting read. | Dec 02 12:28 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Google trends, at the moment are a lot more serious than Twitter trends. Items like #NATO and #Burma are actually worth... http://b1t.it/4JZ | Dec 02 12:28 | |
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| oiaohm | Yep CPU have got faster but ram is turning into a snail. Driving cpu designers up wall. | Dec 02 12:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @sochack: To już jutro! Zaczynamy o 9:00 (w Audytorium Centralnym Wydziału Elektroniki i Technik Informacyjnych) na Politechnice Wwa | Dec 02 12:30 | |
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| iophk | http://perladvent.org/2011/ | Dec 02 12:41 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Author Charlie Stross explains how paranoid publishers demanding DRM have handed the e-book market to Amazon: http://wmk.me/rSkHWE | Dec 02 13:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] So what's the client du jour for identi.ca on Fedora 16? #lazyweb, please help :-) | Dec 02 13:30 | |
| prurigro | oiaohm: byobu seems to use tmux by default now | Dec 02 13:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] New report: Communities of passion http://red.ht/tf030n #collaboration #hackmanagement @ruhbehka | Dec 02 13:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Does anyone know if Phone Search Central is a scam? If it does what it says on the tin, I'm quite concerned. It would m... http://b1t.it/4L3 | Dec 02 13:38 | |
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| XFaCE | prurigro: hi | Dec 02 13:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] dear !lazyweb - I cannot seem to get #Apache !httpd #Redirect working with ProxyPass and ProxyReversePass directives. missing something? | Dec 02 13:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #OFT launches investigation into #Groupon advertisements http://goo.gl/Khl3h | Dec 02 14:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] This video definitely puts the pepper spray thing in perspective. As always, truth is not simple. Watch it please. UPDA... http://b1t.it/4Gx | Dec 02 14:03 | |
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| *XFaCE * Client: XChat-WDK 1498-3 (x86) | Dec 02 14:03 | |
| *XFaCE * OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional | Dec 02 14:03 | |
| *XFaCE * CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 350 @ 2.27GHz (2.00 GHz) | Dec 02 14:03 | |
| *XFaCE * RAM: 3501 MB Total (1862 MB Free) | Dec 02 14:03 | |
| *XFaCE * VGA: Intel(R) HD Graphics | Dec 02 14:03 | |
| *XFaCE * Uptime: 0.34 Hours | Dec 02 14:04 | |
| MinceR | ಠ_ಠ | Dec 02 14:04 |
| XFaCE | did you see that MinceR ? | Dec 02 14:05 |
| MinceR | i did | Dec 02 14:07 |
| XFaCE | both things? | Dec 02 14:07 |
| MinceR | i saw 6 lines of sysinfo action spam | Dec 02 14:07 |
| XFaCE | oh, not the ping? | Dec 02 14:08 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: I was testing new xchat plugins | Dec 02 14:08 |
| MinceR | apparently not the ping | Dec 02 14:08 |
| XFaCE | cd windows | Dec 02 14:09 |
| XFaCE | lol | Dec 02 14:09 |
| MinceR | C:\Windows> | Dec 02 14:09 |
| XFaCE | it's this exec plugin | Dec 02 14:09 |
| XFaCE | I tried running the command prompt | Dec 02 14:09 |
| XFaCE | pretty useless | Dec 02 14:10 |
| XFaCE | [09:08] Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601] | Dec 02 14:10 |
| XFaCE | [09:08] Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. | Dec 02 14:10 |
| XFaCE | [09:08] | Dec 02 14:10 |
| XFaCE | [09:08] C:\Program Files\XChat-WDK> | Dec 02 14:10 |
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| XFaCE | MinceR: are you using xchat? | Dec 02 14:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Diese Abmahnanwälte haben anscheinend kein Problem Leute zu identifizieren, warum also schreien die Behörden nach #VDS? Kopfschüttel | Dec 02 14:13 | |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Oh, command line guy huh? | Dec 02 14:18 |
| XFaCE | ;) | Dec 02 14:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Kernel prepatch 3.2-rc4 http://ur1.ca/6aklm | Dec 02 14:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] QEMU 1.0 released http://ur1.ca/6akqh | Dec 02 14:25 | |
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| *amarsh04 is already at 3.2.0-rc4+ | Dec 02 14:26 | |
| MinceR | XFaCE: no, and i'm using irssi | Dec 02 14:27 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Yeah, I version'd you | Dec 02 14:27 |
| MinceR | i noticed | Dec 02 14:28 |
| MinceR | i'm not a "command line guy", i use GUI, TUI and CLI as i see fit :> | Dec 02 14:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Been on fire today. Even typed up three blogposts | Dec 02 14:33 | |
| schestowitz | I woke up 20 minutes ag0 and already had some phone scammers phone me. I'll soon finish some morning chored (belated). | Dec 02 14:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] "Facebook disses Effin Irishwoman" http://ur1.ca/6al0i | Dec 02 14:36 | |
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| amarsh04 | I had a phone spam call a few days ago claiming to be from 02 9999 9999 (a non-existant Sydney number) | Dec 02 14:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @openattitude 2011 Readers' Choice Awards (all 45 of them) | !Linux Journal http://bit.ly/vx1o7m | Dec 02 14:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @lwnnet QEMU 1.0 released http://ur1.ca/6akqh | Dec 02 14:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @osamak Richard Stallman's interview on #RT. http://ur1.ca/6akgg !fsf !gnu | Dec 02 14:38 | |
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| amarsh04 | I must ask ACMA how fake calling number display can get into our phone system - I thought that .au carriers were allowed to pass correct calling numbers (eg from the number range of the calling pabx) | Dec 02 14:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @capngloval Poll: What is your favorite desktop environment? http://ur1.ca/6al3z | Dec 02 14:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @webmink Author Charlie Stross explains how paranoid publishers demanding DRM have handed the e-book market to Amazon: http://wmk.me/ ... | Dec 02 14:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @neustradamus !nginx 1.0.10 has been released ( !http / !httpd / !Web / !Webserver ) http://nginx.org/ | Dec 02 14:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @glynmoody EDRi launches complaint on lack of #transparency of European Parliament on #ACTA - http://bit.ly/uCg3m5 well done them (v ... | Dec 02 14:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] I like the Hardy Heron background as seen here in Ubuntu Ultimate 2.3. Takes me back to much simpler terms. http://ur1.ca/6al5n | Dec 02 14:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @floeff Want to help test the next LibreOffice version? 3.5 beta0 is available: http://bit.ly/vZzlwl !libo | Dec 02 14:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @kirschner #yacy auf #Spiegel Online http://ur1.ca/69tqb "Deutsche Entwickler basteln dezentrales Anti-Google" !fsfe !fs !gnu | Dec 02 14:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @picandocodigo Vote for Diaspora* as best social network in the Mashable Awards! http://ur1.ca/6a5xl !diaspora via @joindiaspora | Dec 02 14:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] On Ubuntu 9.04 BTW. Sounds ancient. But feels just as great. #goodolddays | Dec 02 14:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Ultimate thoughts: My thoughts on ,well, Ubuntu Ultimate http://ur1.ca/6al9k @eebrahj @kelzoko @kahenya | Dec 02 14:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: For people w disabilities, can ICT tech remove barriers - or create them? http://t.co/sE http://p.ost.im/p/eDSTA5 | Dec 02 14:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Ultimate thoughts: My thoughts on ,well, Ubuntu Ultimate http://ur1.ca/6al9k @eebrah @kelzoko @kahenya | Dec 02 14:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Apache CouchDB alive and well, despite being dropped from Canonical's Ubuntu One (H): http://bit.ly/veeOb1 | Dec 02 14:46 | |
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| schestowitz | amarsh04: just in case they're not a scam I didn't want to say, I am going to report you | Dec 02 14:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Have to call the folks at I&M to give them a heads up every time I want to make an online payment. | Dec 02 14:48 | |
| amarsh04 | usually it's people claiming some problem with my windows software (and I only run gnu/linux now), so I tell them I am not running windows and hang up | Dec 02 14:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels now | Dec 02 14:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels now | Dec 02 14:53 | |
| XFaCE | amarsh04: good for you | Dec 02 14:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the I ... | Dec 02 14:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] How to make Richard Stallman take $1mln http://ur1.ca/6akgg #stallman #gnu #linux #rms #freesoftware #interview #news #software | Dec 02 14:55 | |
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| amarsh04 | found an issue that had been bugging me for a few days... when running top, sys usage of cpu jumped high, running "nice top" avoided the problem | Dec 02 15:08 |
| schestowitz | amarsh04: this one ran away when I got more confrontational | Dec 02 15:13 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Banking on the Internet http://ur1.ca/6am2z @eebrah @iddsalim @mtwita @kelzoko | Dec 02 15:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] effin' Facebook won't recognise an Effin woman. ur1.ca/6al0i | Dec 02 15:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] In the time since I last blogged here.. http://ur1.ca/6am6v @eebrah @kahenya @Amayi_ @mtwita @cobbo3 | Dec 02 15:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels now | Dec 02 15:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels now | Dec 02 15:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] just changed my default search (and urlbar search) engine from #IxQuick to #DuckDuckGo | Dec 02 15:21 | |
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| iophk | DDG is still tainted with Bing | Dec 02 15:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Shared a post "For Jeebus sake! How the hell do they have such a calm tone here? That is insanity!!!" https://plus.goog... http://b1t.it/4ON | Dec 02 15:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Se asculta Internetul !? :-) http://ur1.ca/6ama6 #romania #internet #security #privacy | Dec 02 15:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Happy Friday! Have you given yet to freedom & sharing - CC's Annual Campaign? http://ur1.ca/5iluh | Dec 02 15:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Tell Clarence Thomas: Recuse yourself from the #SupremeCourt #healthcare case! http://ur1.ca/6amh1 @CREDOmobile #SCOTUS | Dec 02 15:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Neutralitatea Internetului - inițiativă legislativă http://ur1.ca/6amkf|detaliu/projectID_43/Neutralitatea-Internetului.html #romania #law | Dec 02 15:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Copyright Corruption Scandal Surrounds Anti-Piracy Campaign http://ur1.ca/6amnf #corruption #copyright | Dec 02 15:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] telnet http://ur1.ca/697uz !memes !lol | Dec 02 15:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Empty reply from server ( http://ur1.ca/697uz ) | Dec 02 15:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Apple is Losing Its Mind and Its Cases Against Linux http://ur1.ca/6amq3 #swpats | Dec 02 15:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] damn url shortening! telnet miku . acm . uiuc . edu !memes !lol | Dec 02 15:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bits and pieces of news from the United States and what it helps teach us about the dangers of US-style patent law spre http://ur1.ca/6amrv | Dec 02 15:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ Bits and pieces of news from the United States and what it helps teach us about the dangers of US-style patent law spre http://ur1. ... | Dec 02 15:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I'd love to see an interviewer ask a politician if there's any point in us asking questions if they have no intention of answering them | Dec 02 15:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] ♺ @eximious: Donate to the #AdaInitiative! Support #women in open tech & culture, + you get gifts, http://ur1.ca/6am97 #linuxchix #foss | Dec 02 15:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @zbraniecki: 40% użytkowników Internetu w Polsce używa przeglądarki wydanej w ciągu ostatniego miesiąca (Fx8 + Chrome 15). Nice! :) | Dec 02 15:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz #Apple is Losing Its Mind and Its Cases Against Linux http://ur1.ca/6amq3 #swpats | Dec 02 15:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @fsf Amazon's Kindle source code: Much ado about nothing -- good blog post @brettcsmith http://ur1.ca/69y5o !fsf !gnu | Dec 02 16:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Log: Coming in 3.2 (Part 2) - Filesystems http://is.gd/ERvjl4 #linux | Dec 02 16:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Sabayon 7 KDE review http://ur1.ca/6anlb #gentoo #kde | Dec 02 16:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Distro Hoppin`: Fedora 16 http://ur1.ca/6anle #fedora #redhat | Dec 02 16:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Broken Patent System http://ur1.ca/6amrv #swpats #uspto | Dec 02 16:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is Ubuntu Still The Most Popular Linux Distro? http://ur1.ca/6anwv #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Dec 02 16:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Hey !Canada : "Don't create Facebook Events for protests."~Joe Bowser !q http://ur1.ca/6ao03 !CDNpoli < very scary video | Dec 02 16:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good morning !identiverse !tzag | Dec 02 16:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 8 Exciting Features of Linux Mint 12 "Lisa" http://ur1.ca/6ao6g #gnu #linux #ubuntu | Dec 02 16:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @infil00p The #G20 Papers are for download here: http://ur1.ca/6ao6f a couple of my write-ups w/be on my blog & mediacoop soon !CDNpoli | Dec 02 16:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: CSC: "It is important to underline fair dealing & other educational gains are undermined w/absolute digital lock protections" | Dec 02 16:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: Swiss Gov Says Copyright Enforcement Rules Sufficient: rejects new ISP measures, stronger digital lock rules http://t.co/Ys ... | Dec 02 16:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: The Daily Digital Lock Dissenter, Day 43: Campus Stores Canada http://t.co/Fxeg1VVD | Dec 02 16:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @xface when repeating tweets on Identica, often shortened URLs break (as here) works best to shorten yourself (hint: turn off auto shorten) | Dec 02 16:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @Steve918 Amazon remotely unrooted my Kindle Fire. > will rooting devices like kindles be illegal under Bill !C11 !CDNpoli | Dec 02 16:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @laurelrusswurm: rd @Steve918 #Amazon remotely unrooted my Kindle Fire. > will rooting devices like kindles be illegal under Bill #C11 #CD | Dec 02 16:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sflc/@sflc] SFLC proposes DMCA exemption that would free users to root their devices and replace their operating systems: http://ur1.ca/6aouq #uefi | Dec 02 17:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] RT @SFLC: !SFLC proposes DMCA exemption that would free users to root their devices and replace their operating systems: http://ur1.ca/6aouq | Dec 02 17:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why We Don't Need To 'Think Of The Artists': They're Doing Fine - http://bit.ly/vDJJNt so let them get on with it | Dec 02 17:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 2/12/2011: WikiLeaks ‘Spy Files’, Open Internet at Risk http://ur1.ca/6apgl #techrights | Dec 02 17:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] GoDaddy lets another domain get stolen http://identi.ca/url/61425126 | Dec 02 17:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] MEPs: "We call upon US Gov't to allow (...) UN special rapporteur on torture to conduct a private meeting with Bradley Manning" ur1.ca/69p2l | Dec 02 17:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Nobody gets fired for using Apache (RedMonk): http://bit.ly/rDyFnB | Dec 02 17:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Why does Apache insist on using Subversion? (GitHub): http://bit.ly/u1tZz7 | Dec 02 17:41 | |
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| schestowitz | "Er, where's the most rationally despised company, Apple? " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/941999 | Dec 02 17:42 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] "Institutions will try to preserve the problem to which they are the solution." -- Clay Shirky | Dec 02 17:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Friday http://ur1.ca/6aps1 | Dec 02 17:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF boardmember @zittrain bashes #SOPA on Colbert last night: https://eff.org/r.H6Z Sound off against #blacklist bills in the comments | Dec 02 17:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] CBC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvW2M_5pr0I !FreeByron | Dec 02 18:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Techdirt: Dutch Anti-Piracy Group May Face Legal Charges For Stealing Servers http://goo.gl/gypvk | Dec 02 18:28 | |
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| sebsebseb | Hi | Dec 02 18:33 |
| MinceR | hay | Dec 02 18:33 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: hi | Dec 02 18:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Stop Bill C-10: Make !Canada Safer, Not Meaner http://www.leadnow.ca/keep-canada-safe > fund more social services not more jails !CDNpoli | Dec 02 18:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] voted for "KDE" | Dec 02 18:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] I'm painting Warhammer figures tonight....My base of operations in the Kitchen! #warhammer40k http://ur1.ca/6ar13 | Dec 02 18:38 | |
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| sebsebseb | MinceR: and now my little brotehr has an Ipod | Dec 02 18:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Canada is a monarchy and sometimes the PM gets the Queen to stack the deck ~ or the senate !injustice | Dec 02 18:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Their royals are our royals; Liz is on our stamps and our money | Dec 02 18:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] If you read the documents, you can see that Byron Sonne has been charged by Queen Elizabeth, for instance !freeByron !CDNpoli | Dec 02 18:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] How Carrier IQ was wrongly accused of keylogging (Cnet): http://cnet.co/saMVfD | Dec 02 18:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I dunno, seems to me what you're describing is Obama's job: "elected king of a democratic monarchy" ... careful what you wish for | Dec 02 18:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @kevie Is this for real???? The occupy party http://ur1.ca/6ar7a | Dec 02 18:56 | |
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| MinceR | sebsebseb: i pity him | Dec 02 18:59 |
| MinceR | but if he's lucky, it won't ignite itself | Dec 02 18:59 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: heh | Dec 02 19:00 |
| sebsebseb | he will want me to help him put music on it and such it seems | Dec 02 19:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Under law, Canada's PM is simply a Member of Parliament; he is chosen by the members of his party, not by Canadians. We only vote for MPs. | Dec 02 19:00 | |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: he's won over to an Ipod Touch since the feautures | Dec 02 19:00 |
| sebsebseb | to young to explain to about software freedom with understanding | Dec 02 19:00 |
| MinceR | if he wanted it so much, he can struggle with hypeTunes, imo :> | Dec 02 19:00 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: yeah, but need Windows for that | Dec 02 19:00 |
| MinceR | should have thought of that before | Dec 02 19:01 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: I did | Dec 02 19:02 |
| sebsebseb | I even sid something to him about how it may not work that well with Linux | Dec 02 19:02 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: ,but of course that doesn't matter, he's to young to know about stuff like that propelry | Dec 02 19:02 |
| sebsebseb | I even suggested Cowon | Dec 02 19:02 |
| MinceR | ask DaemonFC about how great hypeTunes is on winblows | Dec 02 19:02 |
| sebsebseb | ,but then it's like, can you play games and go online and suc, and I am like no | Dec 02 19:02 |
| sebsebseb | so yep the Ipod Touch wins | Dec 02 19:03 |
| sebsebseb | plus they are seen as being cool or whatever you know | Dec 02 19:03 |
| MinceR | yes, among idiots | Dec 02 19:03 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: and kids | Dec 02 19:03 |
| sebsebseb | young children | Dec 02 19:03 |
| schestowitz | omgubuntu? | Dec 02 19:03 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: and that makes things quite sad really, how these companies get all thes epoeple sucked into their products and buying them | Dec 02 19:04 |
| sebsebseb | or wanting them, and then someone else buys for them | Dec 02 19:04 |
| sebsebseb | and the users of them most of them, don't really know why they aren't really that good products | Dec 02 19:04 |
| MinceR | he'll learn at his own expense, them | Dec 02 19:04 |
| MinceR | s/.$/n/ | Dec 02 19:04 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: yeah hopefuly as he gets older | Dec 02 19:04 |
| MinceR | for games and "going online", he could have got a smartphone, or something like this >> http://www.archos.com/products/ta/archos_32it/index.html?country=hu&lang=en | Dec 02 19:05 |
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| schestowitz | rchos reigns | Dec 02 19:05 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: oh my Dad's got an Androidtablet as well | Dec 02 19:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I don't think so. What happens when both parties act the same (as now?) There is no recourse so citizens are forced to find another way #OWS | Dec 02 19:06 | |
| sebsebseb | they are going to go on holiday together soon, for quite a long time, and these devices will go with them | Dec 02 19:07 |
| sebsebseb | and that's how he persuaded my Dad to buy him the Ipod it seems | Dec 02 19:07 |
| MinceR | http://mashable.com/2011/11/29/could-your-iphone-blow-up/ http://mashable.com/2011/11/30/iphone-issue-in-brazil-too/?WT.mc_id=obinsite | Dec 02 19:08 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk We have dread First-Past-The-Post here too, but multiple parties. Our interchangable ruling parties have been shaken up by 3rd party | Dec 02 19:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Over on Diaspora: My festive living room, lovingly decorated by the wife... http://ur1.ca/6arrr | Dec 02 19:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk we have a Green party and a Liberal party... the Conservative Party forms the current government in majority, effective dictatorship | Dec 02 19:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk seems to me your two parties are acting the same - for corporations. If occupy does as suggested, could overtake one of your parties | Dec 02 19:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk i thought royalty was fine, until monarch intervened on behalf of PM helping to suborn the feeble democracy we have by padding senate | Dec 02 19:18 | |
| iophk | Without a removable battery the lifespan of the device is limited to the number of charges the battery can take. | Dec 02 19:22 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is gomerx from http://ur1.ca/6as77 with 112 dents! | Dec 02 19:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] http://ur1.ca/6asan #sip_and_click ... and then find some decent coffee | Dec 02 19:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A "done deal on EU patent", but what is going on with the Unified Patent Court? - http://bit.ly/sKW0yX disgraceful lack of transparency | Dec 02 19:35 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OB2prBtVFo&feature=digest_mon | Dec 02 19:35 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "Attawapiskat: State of emergency, state of indifference" http://ur1.ca/6asfm !CDNpoli !wrawesome | Dec 02 19:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Unaccountable European agency is covering up #rendition information - http://bit.ly/rLuWlb more shabby secrecy #torture | Dec 02 19:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] To be fair to Microsoft, Bing does find magicaljellybean - it's even suggested in the dropdown | Dec 02 19:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF attorney Jennifer Lynch is moderating a panel now on biometrics at #securerights. See our new #biometrics page https://eff.org/r.2Jb | Dec 02 19:48 | |
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| schestowitz | new remake of a cosmos bit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMjEVG2rrFQ&feature=digest_mon | Dec 02 20:00 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #LeySinde in suspended animation - http://bit.ly/vlL2Yc not clear whether it'd dead or just resting; but good news (v @mmasnick) | Dec 02 20:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Monsanto Corn May Be Failing to Kill Bugs, EPA Says - http://bloom.bg/vmj10n and is thus *useless* #gm | Dec 02 20:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] R» @parlementum @gomerx web sites wants me to have > Netscape 4.5 or Internet Explorer & to disable all pop-up blockers. OMG its the 90s | Dec 02 20:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Copyright Act could defang infringement notices: iiNet - http://bit.ly/rY1L4p this sounds a complete mess #au | Dec 02 20:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] FLOSS Manuals and Sourcefabric Announce New Partnership for Open Source Publishing Software - http://bit.ly/rBoaS0 good news | Dec 02 20:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] YaCy: It's About Freedom, Not Beating Google http://ur1.ca/6atqz | Dec 02 20:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @paviles: "África ya exporta tecnología" http://ow.ly/1fXs5v /cc @ushahidi @ihub @whiteafrican @nj3ma @kelzOKO | Dec 02 20:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] New Switch Could Improve Electronics. http://ur1.ca/6aukv | Dec 02 20:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @noyesk: YaCy: It's About Freedom, Not Beating Google http://ur1.ca/6atqz /cc @nj3ma @kelzOKO @fredmanglis @dennisMungai | Dec 02 20:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @r7 #dosomething http://ur1.ca/6aurg | Dec 02 20:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Oh wait! You can do this > http://nd.gd/04m, on !android? /cc @RamanusAsango @nj3ma @kelzOKO @fredmanglis Where's the iOS equivalent? | Dec 02 20:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #NATO conceals preparations for military action against #Syria - English pravda.ru #stateterrorism http://goo.gl/3gqtp | Dec 02 21:15 | |
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| schestowitz | No apparent news this week | Dec 02 21:43 |
| schestowitz | Still going on with last week's 'news' - Mint in DW | Dec 02 21:43 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I'll give you somne news, I willl go to FOSDEM 2011 | Dec 02 21:44 |
| sebsebseb | uh | Dec 02 21:44 |
| sebsebseb | 2012 I mean | Dec 02 21:44 |
| schestowitz | mono devs room? | Dec 02 21:44 |
| sebsebseb | uh yeah | Dec 02 21:44 |
| sebsebseb | of course | Dec 02 21:44 |
| sebsebseb | the Mono rom | Dec 02 21:44 |
| sebsebseb | :D | Dec 02 21:44 |
| sebsebseb | as a spy for Techrights | Dec 02 21:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] "The Problem of the Yellow Milkmaid: A Business Model Perspective on Open Metadata" http://bit.ly/v62oom #opendata | Dec 02 21:45 | |
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| sebsebseb | oh this ifno willl go public soon, since you pubically log this chanenl, ah well | Dec 02 21:45 |
| sebsebseb | maybe not a very secret spy then, but I'll report back to you what's going on | Dec 02 21:45 |
| sebsebseb | heh heh | Dec 02 21:45 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: and now for being serious the Mageia stuf, but of course :) | Dec 02 21:46 |
| goblin-netbook | sebsebseb, Hi! Id suggest you have little future in being a spy..... I'm sure theres a rule which says you don't mention it..... :) | Dec 02 21:46 |
| sebsebseb | goblin-netbook: yep | Dec 02 21:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] "In five years' time, we'll be looking back on the era of $300 Intel system units in bemusement" > http://nd.gd/048 cc @kelzOKO @fredmanglis | Dec 02 21:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Psst, kid... Wanna learn how to hack? • The Register .::. Size~: 30.82 KB | Dec 02 21:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @dwa: "The core skill of innovators is not failure avoidance, it's errorrecovery." -- Randy Nelson, Pixar #quote | Dec 02 21:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] two weeks ago we were 400+ away from our goal for open bug reports. now we are 26 away. need to set a new goal quickly. ;) | Dec 02 21:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] did you know that Norris is an extreme right wing christrian crazy nut? yep. sad but true. | Dec 02 21:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] ah, the old trick of move the goalposts to the extreme then ask for (and get) compromise out of civility. *sigh* | Dec 02 21:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Listening to @kaz interviewing @zack on !faifcast | Dec 02 21:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Now listening to @bkuhn's #doublethink on #Debian nonfree !disturbing | Dec 02 22:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Most popular this week: Open source gift guide and giveaway | http://red.ht/tjkJFc | Dec 02 22:01 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/946599 | Dec 02 22:03 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] #zomg now @bkuhn is calling #Debian #ftpmasters arbitrary discretion over license acceptability "transparency" #trulynotatroll | Dec 02 22:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Counterfeit #Knives : Is Your Knife Real? - YouTube - #bushcraft #preppers http://ur1.ca/6awly | Dec 02 22:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] eBay introduces ql.io, a scripting language for simplifying multiple API calls across the Web (InfoWorld): http://bit.ly/tELgJo | Dec 02 22:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] #troll the ancient #Yuletide carol | Dec 02 22:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Facebook jumpstarting Silicon Valley/NYC tech rivalry? FB sets up engineering shop in NYC (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/w5joot | Dec 02 22:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ATTENTION #PREPPERS Having More Than 7 Days Of Food Makes You A Suspected Terrorist|YouTube #usa #policestate http://ur1.ca/6awst | Dec 02 22:20 | |
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| schestowitz | geez, it's mortifying how silly cpanel is | Dec 02 22:27 |
| schestowitz | the only way past terminal restrictions is set things up as cron jobs | Dec 02 22:27 |
| schestowitz | So "Security reasons" no longer applies | Dec 02 22:28 |
| prurigro | is that along the same lines as cfengine? | Dec 02 22:28 |
| schestowitz | You can manifest any command this way, but there's no way of just opening a command line on most hosting plans | Dec 02 22:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Palantir, the War on Terror's Secret Weapon - BusinessWeek - #usa #intel #surveillance http://goo.gl/v6CkX | Dec 02 22:28 | |
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| schestowitz | All I wanna do is someting like find | grep .mbox, then delete those | Dec 02 22:28 |
| schestowitz | rather than manually go through hundreds of dirs | Dec 02 22:29 |
| schestowitz | one option is to graft the whole ~1gb of data, run the command locally, then put it back on the server with right perms | Dec 02 22:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] Did you miss it ?! Keynote announcement: Jacob Appelbaum (@ioerror) watches the watchers #LCA2012 http://t.co/c7hGoCkT | Dec 02 22:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 02 22:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @firusvg: Thus spake the master programmer: "Though a program be but three lines long, someday it will have to bemaintained." !q #fb | Dec 02 22:31 | |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu "It's certainly the most overated! (flame, flame ;)) " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/946767 | Dec 02 22:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 02 22:32 |
| schestowitz | 'Mint gets it right again, with their spin on Gnome3. " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/946815 | Dec 02 22:32 |
| schestowitz | "don't overlook that they're the first distro to include MATE, I'm loving it :) " | Dec 02 22:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 02 22:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Ricas pensões- Opinião - Jornal de negócios online - #pt #crooks http://goo.gl/MDQJM | Dec 02 22:33 | |
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| prurigro | schestowitz: arch also has mate- have you tried it? | Dec 02 22:34 |
| schestowitz | No, I almost did in 2009 | Dec 02 22:35 |
| schestowitz | I'll probably stay on LTS for another 2 years | Dec 02 22:35 |
| schestowitz | works like a charm | Dec 02 22:35 |
| schestowitz | roy@roy:~$ uptime | Dec 02 22:36 |
| schestowitz | 22:35:59 up 50 days, 22:30, 2 users, load average: 2.37, 2.30, 2.59 | Dec 02 22:36 |
| prurigro | touche haha-- though, I was more curious whether you'd checked mate out? | Dec 02 22:36 |
| schestowitz | It's actually 4 months if you exclude my toaster incident (outage) | Dec 02 22:36 |
| schestowitz | no, I heard of mate, mate | Dec 02 22:36 |
| schestowitz | man, have you seen the mail man, man. I mean, MAN! | Dec 02 22:36 |
| prurigro | lol, good thing we're not australian | Dec 02 22:37 |
| prurigro | (poor Brendan) | Dec 02 22:37 |
| schestowitz | he doesn't talk like that | Dec 02 22:37 |
| schestowitz | stereotypical stuff | Dec 02 22:37 |
| prurigro | no? | Dec 02 22:38 |
| prurigro | us canadians definitely say eh, eh :) | Dec 02 22:38 |
| schestowitz | amarsh04 is from there too | Dec 02 22:38 |
| prurigro | australia or canada? | Dec 02 22:38 |
| schestowitz | au | Dec 02 22:38 |
| prurigro | oh word | Dec 02 22:38 |
| prurigro | do australians not talk like I think they talk? | Dec 02 22:38 |
| prurigro | oh yo btw | Dec 02 22:39 |
| schestowitz | not everyone I meet here | Dec 02 22:39 |
| prurigro | did you check the logs from last night? | Dec 02 22:39 |
| schestowitz | there's the one that says CHOINA | Dec 02 22:39 |
| schestowitz | and g'day | Dec 02 22:39 |
| schestowitz | some is more like British, maybe cause they lived here for a long while | Dec 02 22:39 |
| prurigro | that's why its so hard to tell em apart | Dec 02 22:39 |
| prurigro | ! | Dec 02 22:40 |
| schestowitz | one of my friends moved back to Aussie and his accent doesn't give it away | Dec 02 22:40 |
| schestowitz | here there are also many dialects and accents | Dec 02 22:40 |
| schestowitz | you can tell roughly where people come from by just speaking on the phone | Dec 02 22:40 |
| prurigro | I suppose it is a pretty big country, on that note | Dec 02 22:40 |
| schestowitz | ethnicity, cit, etc. | Dec 02 22:40 |
| prurigro | oh speaking of which, I was trying to figure out your accent last night-- it sounds super familiar | Dec 02 22:41 |
| prurigro | but I can't place it for some reason- possibly due to sleep loss :) | Dec 02 22:41 |
| prurigro | any hints? | Dec 02 22:41 |
| schestowitz | Here is a good one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KH_kOjsXakM | Dec 02 22:41 |
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| schestowitz | It's concise too | Dec 02 22:41 |
| prurigro | haha, I'm half scottish in origin, but that's one I can never get | Dec 02 22:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #CarrierIQ Rootkit Found on Android, BlackberryOS, iOS - http://goo.gl/zxnqX | Dec 02 22:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Statements Regarding #CarrierIQ from Carriers, Device Makers http://goo.gl/jStH5 | Dec 02 22:43 | |
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| prurigro | north england isn't as bad | Dec 02 22:43 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyB9O4ZJWcE&feature=relmfu | Dec 02 22:45 |
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| prurigro | schestowitz: is yours in here? | Dec 02 22:47 |
| schestowitz | I can do impersonations for a laugh, but this guy is very good | Dec 02 22:47 |
| schestowitz | brb | Dec 02 22:47 |
| prurigro | or like, your accent, rather :) | Dec 02 22:47 |
| prurigro | holy, all of these are UK | Dec 02 22:50 |
| prurigro | ahh, kk, he's moving around now-- I didn't think the UK could have 61 accents on its own | Dec 02 22:51 |
| prurigro | schestowitz: so far Austria is sounding closest | Dec 02 22:53 |
| *schestowitz back | Dec 02 22:54 | |
| schestowitz | yeah, well, he does go through many | Dec 02 22:54 |
| prurigro | I'm trying to place yours using his examples as a guide | Dec 02 22:54 |
| schestowitz | they're not imaginary, they all sound very much alike to people whom you can meet every day in a city like Manchester | Dec 02 22:54 |
| schestowitz | Mine is a mixture | Dec 02 22:55 |
| schestowitz | so you won't get it | Dec 02 22:55 |
| schestowitz | Part of my ,mom's family is in the US | Dec 02 22:55 |
| schestowitz | brb | Dec 02 22:55 |
| schestowitz | food | Dec 02 22:55 |
| prurigro | ahh hmm, interesting! and cool, bon apetite | Dec 02 22:55 |
| prurigro | appetit* | Dec 02 22:57 |
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| schestowitz | Got this a minute ago from my uncle in hallandale.. | Dec 02 23:02 |
| schestowitz | > I think perhaps adding a comment can be improved a bit. It's not only that | Dec 02 23:02 |
| schestowitz | > nobody uses it but a couple of people (not experienced computer users), have | Dec 02 23:02 |
| schestowitz | > sent me comments by e-mail expressing frustration as to how to use the "Add | Dec 02 23:02 |
| schestowitz | > A Comment" beneath each article. | Dec 02 23:02 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 02 23:02 |
| schestowitz | > What change do I suggest? Can you place "ADD YOUR COMMENT" (which now | Dec 02 23:02 |
| schestowitz | > appears in the lower right) and position it inside and at the top the large | Dec 02 23:02 |
| schestowitz | > white rectangle. It should read..."ADD YOUR COMMENT BELOW" so all the | Dec 02 23:02 |
| schestowitz | > dummies out there will know what to do. | Dec 02 23:02 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 02 23:02 |
| schestowitz | > As usual, if it's too much of a chore, just forget it, because it's merely | Dec 02 23:02 |
| schestowitz | > an ego reinforcement at best. But then again, at least I would know that | Dec 02 23:02 |
| schestowitz | > it's not us...it's them! | Dec 02 23:02 |
| schestowitz | I will simply things a bit to make it more dummy-compatible | Dec 02 23:02 |
| prurigro | should be easy enough | Dec 02 23:05 |
| prurigro | were you serious yesterday about getting my help touching up markup/css/scripts? | Dec 02 23:06 |
| prurigro | there are a few other things that make me cringe every time I visit :) | Dec 02 23:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "This is why our society is moribund, everyone wants change but no one believes it is possible."~ Julian Ichim !q | Dec 02 23:08 | |
| schestowitz | oh, layout? | Dec 02 23:11 |
| prurigro | not layout, that's fine | Dec 02 23:11 |
| schestowitz | it has been the same since day 1 | Dec 02 23:11 |
| prurigro | probably more css actually | Dec 02 23:11 |
| schestowitz | visual identity | Dec 02 23:11 |
| prurigro | there's stuff ontop of other stuff | Dec 02 23:11 |
| prurigro | buttons that don't tell you what they do unless you get the tooltip | Dec 02 23:12 |
| MinceR | in some cases, you don't want dummies to find out how to comment. :> | Dec 02 23:12 |
| prurigro | a few tweaks would make things look much more professional imo | Dec 02 23:12 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: in thuis case, it's about senior cittizens | Dec 02 23:12 |
| prurigro | and lol MinceR: in my experience, the trolls always spend the time to figure out how to comment | Dec 02 23:12 |
| MinceR | :> | Dec 02 23:12 |
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| schestowitz | i've just mofdifed the php | Dec 02 23:13 |
| prurigro | yea, I'm definitely thinking css is the big thing here | Dec 02 23:14 |
| prurigro | and it could very well only be an issue right now because you'd originally done it when browsers weren't following the same rules | Dec 02 23:14 |
| prurigro | schestowitz: I've built industry level web applications using php, html, javascript/jquery/jquery-ui, mysql etc though- so I have reasonable experience to tweak things up a bit if you're too busy yourself | Dec 02 23:16 |
| schestowitz | we can move to Adobe Trash now ^_^ | Dec 02 23:19 |
| schestowitz | Front page: | Dec 02 23:19 |
| schestowitz | Background music | Dec 02 23:19 |
| schestowitz | Lady Gaga | Dec 02 23:19 |
| schestowitz | And then fade in floting photo of Ballmer | Dec 02 23:20 |
| schestowitz | and it spins for half a minute, then you can click "enter site" | Dec 02 23:20 |
| MinceR | lol | Dec 02 23:20 |
| prurigro | lol, don't forget to force people to 'like' the facebook page | Dec 02 23:20 |
| MinceR | :> | Dec 02 23:20 |
| prurigro | and of course use cookies, so if they clear them, they need another facebook account to like via | Dec 02 23:20 |
| schestowitz | And then... and then... there's a cute video on the site and background music streaming with flash to tell you the world news from Rupert's Sky | Dec 02 23:20 |
| MinceR | better yet, find a way to click the button from a script | Dec 02 23:20 |
| schestowitz | To keep visitors informed and all | Dec 02 23:20 |
| prurigro | no pause/stop controls to speak of | Dec 02 23:21 |
| prurigro | why would anyone not want to listen? | Dec 02 23:21 |
| schestowitz | [23:20] <prurigro> lol, don't forget to force people to 'like' the facebook page | Dec 02 23:21 |
| schestowitz | I like! | Dec 02 23:21 |
| schestowitz | Good idea | Dec 02 23:21 |
| MinceR | (didn't they phase out "Like" already and just automatically record and spam your visits?) | Dec 02 23:21 |
| schestowitz | [23:21] <prurigro> no pause/stop controls to speak of | Dec 02 23:21 |
| prurigro | last massive debate I had with a developer was in the spring | Dec 02 23:21 |
| prurigro | over a like button | Dec 02 23:21 |
| schestowitz | No, I'll help them out | Dec 02 23:21 |
| schestowitz | I'll position the Trash <object> at page bottom | Dec 02 23:21 |
| prurigro | they may have stopped that since-- though you can still collect 'likes' for your page for status | Dec 02 23:22 |
| schestowitz | So they can't accidentally stop the qawesomeness | Dec 02 23:22 |
| schestowitz | autoplay too | Dec 02 23:22 |
| MinceR | are you implying there will be something else on the page, beside that object? :> | Dec 02 23:22 |
| schestowitz | To save them some work | Dec 02 23:22 |
| prurigro | lol, and repeat | Dec 02 23:22 |
| schestowitz | [23:22] <prurigro> they may have stopped that since-- though you can still collect 'likes' for your page for status | Dec 02 23:22 |
| schestowitz | You8 can make the page less heavy | Dec 02 23:23 |
| MinceR | you could actually have multiple "click to enter" pages and make the site just consist of them, coming up in random order | Dec 02 23:23 |
| schestowitz | Just take a screenshot of a popular page with Like | Dec 02 23:23 |
| schestowitz | No JS, no spying, no XSS | Dec 02 23:23 |
| schestowitz | just 1k gif | Dec 02 23:23 |
| prurigro | haha | Dec 02 23:23 |
| prurigro | an actual website designed to look like a facebook page-- how meta would that be | Dec 02 23:24 |
| schestowitz | it's like minimalist mysapce | Dec 02 23:24 |
| schestowitz | marquee! | Dec 02 23:24 |
| prurigro | lmao | Dec 02 23:25 |
| prurigro | I needed a proper marquee implementation on a web app I was doing once | Dec 02 23:25 |
| prurigro | but for the proof of concept there wasn't time to implement, so we actually used <marquee> | Dec 02 23:25 |
| prurigro | and dear god that tag is decrepit these days | Dec 02 23:25 |
| MinceR | did it work? | Dec 02 23:25 |
| MinceR | and did you nest it in a <blink>? | Dec 02 23:26 |
| prurigro | it worked, but every time javascript interacted with the object, the scroll speed would increase | Dec 02 23:26 |
| prurigro | and haha | Dec 02 23:26 |
| MinceR | :D | Dec 02 23:26 |
| prurigro | eventually it was just a blur | Dec 02 23:26 |
| prurigro | I can't imagine what scripting magic caused that, anyway | Dec 02 23:26 |
| MinceR | gn | Dec 02 23:29 |
| prurigro | ciao | Dec 02 23:29 |
| prurigro | schestowitz: finnish, swedish and norwegian are all very similar to yours | Dec 02 23:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] yay, !tea \o/ | Dec 02 23:30 | |
| prurigro | and a polish person says you sound like you're from nevada haha | Dec 02 23:32 |
| schestowitz | on phone | Dec 02 23:34 |
| prurigro | no rush :) | Dec 02 23:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] moral of the story; don't be a #RoyalLiver insurance customer http://goo.gl/mzvRG if you are, leave them | Dec 02 23:38 | |
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| prurigro | schestowitz: Finnish, final answer | Dec 02 23:42 |
| prurigro | I've used all my lifelines | Dec 02 23:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Why Apple (and Sony, Amazon, & Microsoft) should support jailbreaking smartphones, tablets & gaming consoles: https://eff.org/r.1Jc | Dec 02 23:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why Apple (and Sony, Amazon, Microsoft etc.) Should Support Jailbreaking | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 32.63 KB | Dec 02 23:43 |
| prurigro | (about 8 people now want me to report back with the correct answer if/when I get it ) | Dec 02 23:45 |
| prurigro | we even have a linguist who can't place it | Dec 02 23:45 |
| koolhead17 | hi all | Dec 02 23:47 |
| koolhead17 | jono: ping sir | Dec 02 23:47 |
| prurigro | haro | Dec 02 23:48 |
| prurigro | how goes? | Dec 02 23:50 |
| schestowitz | "I've had an abhorrent time running the Ubuntu/Gnome-based Mint 12 in VirtualBox. It comes pre-packaged with VB Guest extensions baked in, which is nice, but they don't seem to work very well. Graphical anomalies, mouse pointer accuracy issues, and slow responses really killed the experience for me. I have since downloaded/installed the Debian/XFCE version and have been having a better experience, but I was really hoping to try out the | Dec 02 23:50 |
| schestowitz | new UI. Anyone else seeing this? | Dec 02 23:50 |
| schestowitz | "Good. It's not just me, then. I installed it a couple of days ago and have trouble with it locking up, etc." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/946815 | Dec 02 23:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 02 23:51 |
| prurigro | schestowitz: I had strange results with I think it was one of the main ubuntu variants | Dec 02 23:51 |
| prurigro | would def make sense though, mint being based on it | Dec 02 23:52 |
| prurigro | schestowitz: oh btw, last night we were discussing the feed service in the channel-- how often do you have it set to check for new feeds? | Dec 02 23:52 |
| schestowitz | linux spreads in my family | Dec 02 23:52 |
| schestowitz | my sister uses mint 10 | Dec 02 23:52 |
| schestowitz | my cousins use webO | Dec 02 23:53 |
| schestowitz | webOS | Dec 02 23:53 |
| schestowitz | runs Linux | Dec 02 23:53 |
| prurigro | webOS! | Dec 02 23:53 |
| schestowitz | ogh crap | Dec 02 23:54 |
| schestowitz | youtube is moving to new channel design today | Dec 02 23:54 |
| schestowitz | what a mess | Dec 02 23:54 |
| schestowitz | they petend it's web 2.0 crap | Dec 02 23:54 |
| schestowitz | prurigro: they bought one for every one in the family | Dec 02 23:54 |
| *goblin-netbook has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Dec 02 23:54 | |
| prurigro | when they were like 60 bucks a pop? | Dec 02 23:54 |
| schestowitz | Even my female cousin.. http://www.youtube.com/user/BlOnDiE4lYf94 | Dec 02 23:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BlOnDiE4lYf94's Channel - YouTube .::. Size~: 119.33 KB | Dec 02 23:55 |
| koolhead17 | schestowitz supp | Dec 02 23:55 |
| prurigro | lol, they have one of those beiber cutouts! | Dec 02 23:56 |
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