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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Learned some expression: 马马虎虎 | Dec 14 00:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Journalists from more than 60 countries join in support of WikiLeaks http://t.co/rMzvEhua | Dec 14 00:10 | |
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| cubezzz | no open source program is really doomed, unless the cpu it runs on disappears | Dec 14 00:13 |
| cubezzz | even then there's always emulation | Dec 14 00:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] RT @arstechnica Creative Commons ponders ports and database rights for license update: arst.ch/rur by @segphault | Dec 14 00:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Iran’s Drone | Political Graffiti - #funny but true http://goo.gl/Xcj0F | Dec 14 00:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Today is different. Not many recognizable spammers on the !Identica #Topdenters list: http://ur1.ca/6oamp | Dec 14 00:37 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Top 25 Denters Over Last 24 Hours .::. Size~: 3.84 KB | Dec 14 00:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Argentina's Economic #Collapse (FULL VERSION) - YouTube - #docs http://ur1.ca/6oanj | Dec 14 00:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] "Armageddon Outa Here!" | British National Party - #collapse #nwo #bankingsystem http://goo.gl/hGWT8 | Dec 14 00:42 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: "Armageddon Outa Here!" | British National Party .::. Size~: 51.04 KB | Dec 14 00:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 17 Signs That The European Financial System Is Heading For An Implosion Of Historic Proportions - #eu #collapse http://goo.gl/NYFrP | Dec 14 00:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mega Fail: 17 Signs That The European Financial System Is Heading For An Implosion Of Historic Proportions .::. Size~: 193.83 KB | Dec 14 00:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Fight the Blacklist: A Toolkit for Anti-SOPA Activism created by the ever-vigilant @eff - http://goo.gl/OI7Wo | Dec 14 01:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] As Disenchantment With Idiocy Surges, Ron Paul Support Soars | ZeroHedge - #ronpaul http://goo.gl/7TuI5 | Dec 14 01:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Fight the Blacklist: A Toolkit for Anti-SOPA Activism | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 31.19 KB | Dec 14 01:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: As Disenchantment With Idiocy Surges, Ron Paul Support Soars | ZeroHedge .::. Size~: 162.52 KB | Dec 14 01:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Greek Bank Run Hits Record:Unprecedented €6.8 Billion In Deposits Pulled From Greek Banks In October #greece #collapse http://goo.gl/4UpwA | Dec 14 01:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Greek Bank Run Hits Record: Unprecedented €6.8 Billion In Deposits Pulled From Greek Banks In October | ZeroHedge .::. Size~: 132.51 KB | Dec 14 01:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Action Alert: The U.S. Constitution hangs by its Final Thread | COLLAPSENET - #usa #policestate #ndaa http://goo.gl/F5pog | Dec 14 01:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] RT @creativecommons: Fight the Blacklist: A Toolkit for Anti-SOPA Activism created by the ever-vigilant @eff - https://eff.org/r.K6g | Dec 14 01:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @cthie: “When Injustice Becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty” – Thomas Jefferson #Wikileaks #Assange #OccupyMovement | Dec 14 01:20 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Fight the Blacklist: A Toolkit for Anti-SOPA Activism | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 31.19 KB | Dec 14 01:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] would've thought that it'd be an actual toolkit for getting around censorship..... | Dec 14 01:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] you know, tor, noscript, https everywhere, etc. | Dec 14 01:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] What $1 Million Will Buy In Housing Markets Around America http://goo.gl/rjAF1 | Dec 14 01:25 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: What $1 Million Will Buy In Housing Markets Around America .::. Size~: 141.03 KB | Dec 14 01:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ok, so why can't I find anybody from #telecomix in #Diaspora? Come on, dear mudkips, you should be here long time ago already! ;) | Dec 14 01:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The Shameful Attacks on Julian Assange | Atlantic http://t.co/SF7Uo8zn | Dec 14 01:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @fontana wouldn't be so sure, coming from sun aren't opensolaris/open/libreoffice at least dual licensed w/ it? | Dec 14 01:50 | |
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| -NickServ-schestowitz!~schestowi@host86-185-121-251.range86-185.btcentralplus.com has just authenticated as you (schestowitz) | Dec 14 02:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @tekk #OpenSolaris mostly under #CDDL. #OOo was !LGPL, new code in #LibreOffice dual-licensed #MPL IIUC, #AOOo #Apache License 2.0 | Dec 14 02:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @fontana ah, thanks | Dec 14 02:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Banana Boat Ben more loyal to bankers than to us. http://is.gd/Y1wWrr | Dec 14 02:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] didn't have much choice after a while... already late. and the busdrivers are too stubborn to open the door. | Dec 14 02:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Bloomberg responds to Banana Boat Ben's letter. http://is.gd/KUMQZI | Dec 14 02:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Taken to Task: Ben Bernanke and His Bankster Buddies | Daily Ticker - Yahoo! Finance .::. Size~: 229.12 KB | Dec 14 02:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bloomberg News Responds to Bernanke Criticism of U.S. Bank-Rescue Coverage - Bloomberg .::. Size~: 161.43 KB | Dec 14 02:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] NYTimes: Big banks repeatedly break laws: http://is.gd/avUmvS | Dec 14 02:07 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Wall Street’s Repeat Violations, Despite Promises - Graphic - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 37.33 KB | Dec 14 02:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Visualizing the Fed's part in the bailouts: http://is.gd/dXMMux | Dec 14 02:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Federal Reserve Emergency Loans: Liquidity for Banks - Bloomberg .::. Size~: 103.06 KB | Dec 14 02:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] A deep dive into the Oregon shield law case and the consequences for bloggers & journalism: https://eff.org/r.5Kq | Dec 14 02:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Crystal Cox Case and Bloggers as Journalists | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 33.91 KB | Dec 14 02:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] got bored staying in bed and feeling sick, so I started learning for HSK! | Dec 14 02:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] 24-Year-Old Asks #Facebook For His Data, Gets 1,200 PDFs http://goo.gl/SLzMo | Dec 14 02:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] When The #NYTimes Builds On Other's Work, I Guess That's Journalism http://goo.gl/aqUX9 | Dec 14 02:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: When The NY Times Builds On Other's Work, I Guess That's Journalism | Techdirt .::. Size~: 57.76 KB | Dec 14 02:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] off to NBLUG to learn about some home network pen testing | Dec 14 02:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] #Dharma talks distributed Grateful Dead style http://ur1.ca/6odfj | Dec 14 02:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] "The Buddha’s Teaching As It Is" http://ur1.ca/6odfj Public domain; these downloads are mp3 #buddhism | Dec 14 02:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] I would LOVE to see Obama vs. Ron Paul elections in the USA. With Ron Paul on top, preferably. ur1.ca/6odpp | Dec 14 03:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Recession not over, dates to 1999-2000. See the blue line. http://is.gd/de6FJp | Dec 14 03:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] larry lessig is on the dialy show tonight | Dec 14 03:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Irony: Mass spying industry unhappy about WikiLeaks spying on it http://t.co/YMcsajZv | Dec 14 03:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @tekk eh, not so much satire as news with humor | Dec 14 04:02 | |
| DrPizza | http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lw3yhuM41d1qbk1g9o1_400.gif | Dec 14 04:15 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] life comes in waves. hold on tight when it goes down and enjoy when it goes up... if you do not hold on tight, you will be swept away! | Dec 14 04:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Today will be brutal! | Dec 14 04:53 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1dpQKntj_w | Dec 14 05:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 10 Cutest Cat Moments - YouTube .::. Size~: 133.51 KB | Dec 14 05:25 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @arlenarlenarlen A Higgs boson walks into church & says,"I'm here for mass"☝fun hallucinogenic premises of "adding epicycles" | Dec 14 05:52 | |
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| schestowitz | DrPizza: nice GIF | Dec 14 06:59 |
| DaemonFC | I would have preferred "Santa ran out of coal, so he's passing out Windows Vista" | Dec 14 07:00 |
| schestowitz | Santa has detected an exception and he willl shut down | Dec 14 07:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Checking Out Ubuntu Studio 11.04 http://ur1.ca/6oid5 #ubuntu #art | Dec 14 07:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Checking Out Ubuntu Studio 11.04 .::. Size~: 58.59 KB | Dec 14 07:03 |
| *DaemonFC is throwing out all his old socks | Dec 14 07:04 | |
| DaemonFC | been meaning to buy new ones for a while | Dec 14 07:04 |
| DaemonFC | most of the ones I had were full of holes | Dec 14 07:04 |
| MinceR | lc | Dec 14 07:07 |
| MinceR | disregard that | Dec 14 07:08 |
| *DaemonFC throws all his old socks at MinceR | Dec 14 07:08 | |
| DaemonFC | Merry Christmas | Dec 14 07:08 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Dec 14 07:08 |
| *MinceR dodges in a blur | Dec 14 07:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Geek's Guide to the Coolest Holiday Gifts http://ur1.ca/6oihx #linux #gadget | Dec 14 07:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Geek's Guide to the Coolest Holiday Gifts | Linux Journal .::. Size~: 50.21 KB | Dec 14 07:10 |
| DaemonFC | I'm wondering who the hell runs X.org | Dec 14 07:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Canonical Launches New Unofficial Site for Ubuntu OEMs/ODMs http://is.gd/SNqIxd more OEMs seem to be preinstalling it | Dec 14 07:12 | |
| DaemonFC | and why only now they are deleting support for ancient Windows, ancient unmaintained UNIX... | Dec 14 07:12 |
| DaemonFC | etc. | Dec 14 07:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Canonical Launches New Unofficial Site for Ubuntu OEMs/ODMs | The VAR Guy .::. Size~: 89.12 KB | Dec 14 07:12 |
| DaemonFC | some of the deletion comments are stuff like "This hasn't worked in years, stop pretending it does" | Dec 14 07:12 |
| DaemonFC | scary | Dec 14 07:12 |
| DaemonFC | Catalyst 11.12 is out | Dec 14 07:13 |
| DaemonFC | highlights..... | Dec 14 07:13 |
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| DaemonFC | still crashes the server when you use Xv | Dec 14 07:13 |
| DaemonFC | still can't wake my monitor up from suspend | Dec 14 07:13 |
| DaemonFC | reports OpenGL version 4.2 finally | Dec 14 07:13 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME still doesn't work right | Dec 14 07:14 |
| DaemonFC | KDE still hands it the kwin legacy backend | Dec 14 07:14 |
| DaemonFC | it still complains in the x server log that some of the settings they put in your xorg.conf aren't used | Dec 14 07:14 |
| DaemonFC | Phoronix claims they improved RandR, but it still reports version 1.2 | Dec 14 07:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In 2011 #Linux grew massive in HPC, phones, servers, even in desktops. Byfield dunks an assumption of defeatism http://is.gd/RiQVJR #wrong | Dec 14 07:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 2011: The Year of Linux Disappointments - Datamation .::. Size~: 67.85 KB | Dec 14 07:15 |
| DaemonFC | The Ubuntu packages don't support OpenCL | Dec 14 07:15 |
| DaemonFC | you must install from the generic AMD installer to get that, otherwise it complains that the support files are missing | Dec 14 07:16 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Dec 14 07:16 |
| DaemonFC | AMD open sourced part of Catalyst recently to go into Mesa for clover | Dec 14 07:17 |
| DaemonFC | the AMDIL code generator and the hookup code for LLVM | Dec 14 07:17 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/86861761 | Dec 14 07:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Kev Macphail (kevie)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Dec-11 07:10:37 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I could've used that link last week, !tj episode 9 was a Gifts for Geeks special | Dec 14 07:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @gbraad ouch, hope you're ok,my friend. Hugs | Dec 14 07:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Creative Ubuntu Unity TV Mockups You Must See http://ur1.ca/6oj0l #linux | Dec 14 07:35 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Creative Ubuntu Unity TV Mockups You Must See | Tech Drive-in .::. Size~: 49.81 KB | Dec 14 07:35 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fujitsu's waterproof Android phone just 6.7mm thin http://is.gd/wP09Ct #linux inside, water outside | Dec 14 07:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Fujitsu's waterproof Android phone just 6.7mm thin - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 55.53 KB | Dec 14 07:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #UltimateEdition 3.0 Screenshot Tour http://ur1.ca/6ojar #linuxmint | Dec 14 07:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ultimate Edition 3.0 Screenshot Tour - Softpedia .::. Size~: 57.14 KB | Dec 14 07:50 |
| schestowitz | http://deviceguru.com/ubuntu-11-10-without-shell-shock/ | Dec 14 07:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: DeviceGuru » Ubuntu 11.10 without Unity shell shock .::. Size~: 87.51 KB | Dec 14 07:52 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] It turns out that S&P's methods for getting everything badly wrong are proprietary and secret. The method is pay for a good rating. | Dec 14 07:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Outerra 3D Planetary Engine Renders Whole Planets from Space Down to the Surface, Will Wow You! http://is.gd/Tx7gF8 #3d | Dec 14 07:57 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Outerra 3D Planetary Engine Renders Whole Planets from Space Down to the Surface, Will Wow You! ~ Ubuntu Vibes .::. Size~: 150.89 KB | Dec 14 07:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux Gaming is Alive and Well http://ur1.ca/6ojnm spent last week playing some fun games. | Dec 14 07:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux Gaming is Alive and Well - Thomas A. Knight, Official Website .::. Size~: 21.55 KB | Dec 14 07:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If Windows is a Walmart for games, Linux is a grocery store. You can find what you need, you don't get 100 varieties though. | Dec 14 08:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Infos: #Wine 1.3.34 released http://ur1.ca/6ojri #linux #unix | Dec 14 08:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: UGP (Ubuntu Gaming Project): Infos: Wine 1.3.34 released .::. Size~: 83.04 KB | Dec 14 08:00 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/86863264 | Dec 14 08:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Jose R Rodriguez (metztli)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Dec-11 07:48:57 UTC - Identi.ca: ♺ @schestowitz #Fujitsu's waterproof #Android phone just 6.7mm thin http://is.gd/wP09Ct !linux inside, water [ #vapor] outside | Dec 14 08:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Fujitsu's waterproof Android phone just 6.7mm thin - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 55.53 KB | Dec 14 08:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] My Dell charger rated at 3.5 amps has died after 6 months. Nice work Dell. #fail | Dec 14 08:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] ♻ @fkarlitschek: Welcome to ownCloud, Inc. http://bit.ly/u3s9rL > Congrats! And all the best! | Dec 14 08:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Welcome to ownCloud, Inc. | ownCloud .::. Size~: 19.43 KB | Dec 14 08:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] RT @fsfe What we did at FSFE in 2011: Overview now online at http://l.fsfe.org/2011 Thanks to everyone who supported us! | Dec 14 08:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Our Work in 2011 .::. Size~: 13.67 KB | Dec 14 08:22 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1036508 "whats with 11.10 :P?" | Dec 14 08:26 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] RT @ejdecena !Ubuntu Tweak 0.6 Almost Comes with #Unity Settings Support > http://is.gd/H9XM58 | Dec 14 08:27 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu Tweak 0.6 Almost Comes with Unity Settings Support .::. Size~: 31.71 KB | Dec 14 08:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Incorrect, output of 6mth old failed DELL laptop charger 12.3 amps 240 watts. Even if they replace it how bloody long will it take? | Dec 14 08:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Global Warming: It's Not About the Hockey Stick http://ur1.ca/6okoi #environment | Dec 14 08:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Video Review: #Ubuntu #Privacy Remix 10.04r2 http://ur1.ca/6okoh #gnu #linux | Dec 14 08:45 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6igi-IhLCiU&feature=digest_mon | Dec 14 08:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: PIRACY MADNESS! (Your Tax Dollars At Work) - YouTube .::. Size~: 146.97 KB | Dec 14 08:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 14/12/2011: KahelOS, Fujitsu Linux Phones http://ur1.ca/6ol0u #techrights | Dec 14 09:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Links 14/12/2011: KahelOS, Fujitsu Linux Phones | Techrights .::. Size~: 137.51 KB | Dec 14 09:00 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1036723 "except that the grocery store is mostly much more pricey i guess (and we all know why walmart is cheaper)" | Dec 14 09:00 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 100 years after Amundsen #ACTA goes South - http://bit.ly/w14BS7 let's hope the European Parliament can do something here | Dec 14 09:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Louis CK declares $5 standup special a success, sells 110k copies for $200k profit in 3 days - http://tnw.co/saCt8c great to see | Dec 14 09:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The RMS bot is back. | Dec 14 09:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Dell I take it all back. Just got off the phone to them and replacement laptop charger will be here tomorrow. | Dec 14 09:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] It has just started snowing in my bit of Wiltshire. | Dec 14 09:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK is Europe's most digitally aware nation, Ofcom study finds - http://bit.ly/sCocQb for some value of "aware" (v @Coadec) | Dec 14 09:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: UK is Europe's most digitally aware nation, Ofcom study finds | Media | The Guardian .::. Size~: 96.47 KB | Dec 14 09:30 |
| Brendan_T | schestowitz: our small grocery stores are cheaper than our supermarkets for vegetables & fruit. not so for imported things like asain noodles | Dec 14 09:31 |
| Brendan_T | though | Dec 14 09:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Company Claims Its Software Can Magically Identify 'Rogue Sites' http://goo.gl/6yWMh | Dec 14 09:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Company Claims Its Software Can Magically Identify 'Rogue Sites' | Techdirt .::. Size~: 48.51 KB | Dec 14 09:32 |
| schestowitz | they use rhe fact people are too lazy to travel to fruit/veg stands | Dec 14 09:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Shared a post "Been a while since my last court filing in Finland, nice to see that the courts prefer PDF or ODF - wit... http://b1t.it/abDe | Dec 14 09:33 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Been a while since my last court filing in Finland, nice to… .::. Size~: 45.23 KB | Dec 14 09:33 |
| Brendan_T | they use the fact? | Dec 14 09:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] "LibreOffice continues to progress at an impressive rate [..] wins the coveted spot as best new open-source project": http://bit.ly/tqQrf5 | Dec 14 09:47 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Readers' Choice Awards 2011 | Linux Journal .::. Size~: 98.02 KB | Dec 14 09:47 |
| MinceR | r4wr | Dec 14 09:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] "The king has been dethroned! [..] The king is dead; long live the king!" - LibreOffice is best office suite: http://bit.ly/s6YK6n | Dec 14 09:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Readers' Choice Awards 2011 | Linux Journal .::. Size~: 98.26 KB | Dec 14 09:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Humble Indie Bundle Well On Its Way To Break Sales Record - http://bit.ly/vnHUDz more evidence other business models work | Dec 14 10:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Humble Indie Bundle Well On Its Way To Break Sales Record | Techdirt .::. Size~: 40.73 KB | Dec 14 10:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] An Ode to a 'Poor Black Kid' I Never Knew: How Forbes Gets Poverty Wrong http://identi.ca/url/62392164 | Dec 14 10:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: An Ode to a 'Poor Black Kid' I Never Knew: How Forbes Gets Poverty Wrong - News - GOOD .::. Size~: 150.06 KB | Dec 14 10:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] #encrypt external drive in !linux > http://nd.gd/05j /cc @nj3ma @kelzOKO @fredmanglis @dennisMungai @dammim @flintsoul @mosesmutuku | Dec 14 10:18 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.flickr.com/photos/girliemac/sets/72157628409467125/ | Dec 14 10:34 |
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| Brendan_T | wtf. i just youtube steve ballmer. is it even real? | Dec 14 10:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Some Facts About Carrier IQ | Electronic Frontier Foundation - http://ur1.ca/6on3x | Dec 14 10:43 | |
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| Brendan_T | he is totally batshit insane | Dec 14 10:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] You can tell Google is winning when people start using the phrase, "Gmail like" when describing a mail application. Re... http://b1t.it/abFS | Dec 14 10:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] "Life without you is like a broken pencil..." ... "... pointless" | Dec 14 11:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @muungwana i wrote a simple to use qt based frontend to #cryptsetup http://ur1.ca/6ok2j !linux !qt | Dec 14 11:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD @muungwana i wrote a simple to use qt based frontend to #cryptsetup http://ur1.ca/6ok2j /cc @nj3ma @dennisMungai @kelzOKO @fredmanglis | Dec 14 11:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Did the Pentagon Help Strangle the Arab Spring? by Tom Engelhardt -- Antiwar.com http://goo.gl/K7gqr | Dec 14 11:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Google Already Working on Siri Competitor for !Android - Gotta Be Mobile http://ping.fm/IT8w7 | Dec 14 11:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Children's Distro Releases Preview - OStatic (blog) http://ping.fm/NP5PB | Dec 14 11:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] International groups want off Internet name expansion - Reuters http://ping.fm/unqIr | Dec 14 11:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Groups still oppose #SOPA after proposed amendment PC Advisor - http://ow.ly/7YTIk « Is anyone really surprised. It's still unbalanced | Dec 14 11:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Get ready for Dec 17! 1 year of Arab Spring. Manning trail & 24th Birthday Operation Horizon. http://t.co/MNLzZZCA #ophorizon | Dec 14 12:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Filmmaker: BitTorrent Pirates Help Us Get More Exposure - http://bit.ly/sQGPqh obscurity worse than piracy | Dec 14 12:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Remember when I said there'll be net censorship in Russia soon (ur1.ca/6oosb )? Well... ur1.ca/6ooj2 | Dec 14 12:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Rogers: Buying Bonds A “Terrible Mistake” | The Guru Investor - #economics #collapse http://goo.gl/XMSOe | Dec 14 12:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Admiral... "The Enemy Is Just Laughing Over This, Because They Will Have Gotten Another Victory" - #usa #ndaa http://goo.gl/RgKWy | Dec 14 12:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] If you want to join Schemer - use one of my inivtes by clicking http://ur1.ca/6ooy0 | Dec 14 12:28 | |
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| MinceR | 115236 <+Brendan_T> wtf. i just youtube steve ballmer. is it even real? | Dec 14 12:34 |
| MinceR | indeed | Dec 14 12:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] “Big Brother is Eyeing Us – For Good or Evil?” | ZeroHedge - #usa #policestate #surveillance http://goo.gl/4Dncl | Dec 14 12:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Debian Project News - December 14th, 2011 http://ur1.ca/6opcv | Dec 14 12:47 | |
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| Brendan_T | i dont even understand | Dec 14 12:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] *sigh* http://ur1.ca/6opet "I think it is against our interest encouraging KDE and other desktop environments." - Lennart Poettering | Dec 14 12:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] RT @floeff "The king has been dethroned! [..] The king is dead; long live the king!" - LibreOffice is best office suite: http://bit.ly/s ... | Dec 14 12:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] as he feels the same for "whatever else exists in the Free Software world.", a source of strife in F/OSS client efforts becomes clear. | Dec 14 12:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] European Commission counting on open data - The H Open Source - #floss #opendata #eu http://goo.gl/3904m | Dec 14 12:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] I think it was/is a mistake to mix the Free and non-Free under the same banner. | Dec 14 12:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Thanks to IANS , I know what a "majoritarian regime" is http://goo.gl/u1lGh | Dec 14 12:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] in happier news, Plasma Active Two has been released! announcement on the Dot soon! http://ur1.ca/5ci1v | Dec 14 12:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @evan Seriously growing to hate the amorphous "open source community" moniker. I prefer "freedom guerrillas". | Dec 14 12:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] CDDL was used for OpenSolaris, for Java EE (Glassfish) and for all Sun's infrastucture software. Significant codebase, but who cares? | Dec 14 12:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I think you're right, @evan "Community" has lost most of its power - what a shame that is though | Dec 14 12:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Hence my question which @bkuhn is avoiding. MPL v2 offers GPL-compatibility while also appearing corporate friendly. | Dec 14 12:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] So the answer appears to be MPL v2, which is semi-permissive but pro-GPL... | Dec 14 12:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] You know, what worries me most about corporate hostility to GPL? It has to be because they don't want to give irrevocably; they want strings | Dec 14 13:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The future of medicine is nerdy: does evidence synthesis save more lives than a shiny new drug? - http://bit.ly/vW6Lac important point | Dec 14 13:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Code For America Receives $1.5M Grant From Google To Help The Government Harness Technology - http://tcrn.ch/u059BI sensible #ogov | Dec 14 13:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] If you want to join Schemer - use one of my inivtes by clicking http://ur1.ca/6ooy0 update Sorry, ... http://b1t.it/abI1 | Dec 14 13:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How #SOPA will hurt the free web and Wikipedia - http://bit.ly/tR6giN great post from #wikipedia's General Counsel | Dec 14 13:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] LGPLv3 still has most of the characteristics that make corporate lawyers fearful; it's just v3 with an exception after all. | Dec 14 13:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Microsoft Founder’s Rocket Plane Hybrid: One Giant Leap For Mankind - http://on.mash.to/uJGf5H looks rather cool | Dec 14 13:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Alibaba to pre-load mobile gaming on its Chinese operating system - http://tnw.co/rtGS35 Linux-based #china | Dec 14 13:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good morning !identiverse !tzag | Dec 14 13:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] CentOS vs. Oracle vs. Scientific Linux 6.1 Performance http://ping.fm/1iwL8 | Dec 14 13:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Mehr Open Government führt zu Datenfriedhof? - http://bit.ly/vR0cxB these people don't even make sense any more #ogov #opendata #de | Dec 14 13:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mehr Open Government führt zu Datenfriedhof? » Von markus » netzpolitik.org .::. Size~: 37.35 KB | Dec 14 13:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #RIAA Boss Tries To Defend #SOPA & PIPA To The NY Times http://ping.fm/rJjFx | Dec 14 13:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Morning smile: Anfangen ist leicht, beharren eine Kunst: http://bitte-ein-bit.tumblr.com/post/14181923930 | Dec 14 13:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Anfangen ist leicht, beharren eine Kunst. .::. Size~: 73.15 KB | Dec 14 13:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Journalists can now live-tweet in UK courts without asking permission - http://tnw.co/uNvjCp bgood; but begs question of who's a journalist | Dec 14 13:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] There is lots wrong with it. If you are committed to the Free side of things, I am surprised you haven't run into problems yet. If not? | Dec 14 13:17 | |
| MinceR | http://dilbert.com/2011-12-13/ | Dec 14 13:18 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody How #SOPA will hurt the free web and Wikipedia - http://bit.ly/tR6giN great post from #wikipedia's General Counsel | Dec 14 13:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] I am not as concerned with more "freedoms" for creators as I am with Freedom for everyone. | Dec 14 13:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU ministers agree to share passenger data with the US - http://bit.ly/tsXoq5 let's hope the European Parliament can save us... | Dec 14 13:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: EU ministers agree to share passenger data with the US | EurActiv .::. Size~: 88.93 KB | Dec 14 13:30 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Places not worth caring about ur1.ca/6oq6s | Dec 14 13:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @greve ♻ @fkarlitschek: Welcome to ownCloud, Inc. http://bit.ly/u3s9rL > Congrats! And all the best! | Dec 14 13:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Welcome to ownCloud, Inc. | ownCloud .::. Size~: 23.08 KB | Dec 14 13:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz in other words, CC NC is free-er than share ware :) | Dec 14 13:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] IP Packet Filtering: iptables Explained For Beginners | Looking For The Source Code Of Life http://goo.gl/HlC87 !security | Dec 14 13:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: IP Packet Filtering: iptables Explained For Beginners | Looking For The Source Code Of Life, LINUX.. .::. Size~: 99.68 KB | Dec 14 13:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] it's a convenient way to provide consistent functionality to ALL content based apps. what's strange, other than you didn't know it? | Dec 14 13:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] note that we're aware we're introducing new concepts; and new concepts mean education; ergo the video. which apparently works :) | Dec 14 13:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Helsinki hochzufrieden mit Freier Software !fs (heise http://ur1.ca/6oqh6 und prolinux http://ur1.ca/6oqh8 ) !fsfe !gnu | Dec 14 13:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: heise online - Helsinki: Stadtangestellte zufrieden mit OpenOffice .::. Size~: 46.91 KB | Dec 14 13:58 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open Source Physics wins award for online education | red.ht/w0GnYn #oer #spore #opened | Dec 14 14:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Good work @google - €550k to get girls & other under-represented groups into studies l http://p.ost.im/p/eyFGKF | Dec 14 14:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @tkb: Starting in 10 minutes! How can country governments start and run #opendata ecosystems? http://t.c http://p.ost.im/p/eySKeb | Dec 14 14:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Props @Google! Donatie @betatechniek om meer meiden & jongens te interesseren voor techn http://p.ost.im/p/eUcdcK | Dec 14 14:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Hot on the heels of my recent app that tells my age to the second, I've decided that I will continue being a man of science... | Dec 14 14:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] From now henceforth, when asked for my tribe, I will reply "Hominini" and when further pressed for my family name "Hominidae" | Dec 14 14:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] I will also change my profiles to reflect the following: Kingdom: Animalia Phylum:Chordata Class: Mammalia Order:Primates Family:Hominidae | Dec 14 14:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Tribe: Hominini Genus: Homo Species: Homo sapiens | Dec 14 14:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Published my first web app online on Monday! Yay! Working on setting up my first git repository on git hub today, yay! | Dec 14 14:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Ouch. According to my sources, the ACTA fiasco will be signed by the EU today. In Geneva. http://ur1.ca/6oquq... http://b1t.it/abMB | Dec 14 14:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] My song of the week this week, The Fray's Over My Head | Dec 14 14:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Sony is looking to higher Denzel Washington for the Equalizer v/ @empiremagazine | Dec 14 14:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Also an @empiremagazine trivia, what should The Stath's Chev Chelios be powered by in Crank 3? | Dec 14 14:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Thinking of doing a trivia of my own, if The Stath's Chev Chelios were Kenyan, he would be powered by.... | Dec 14 14:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "The Council is expected to adopt a decision authorising the signing of an anti-counterfeiting trade agreement (ACTA) ... http://b1t.it/abMK | Dec 14 14:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] RT @aseigo in happier news, Plasma Active Two has been released! announcement on the Dot soon! http://ur1.ca/5ci1v | Dec 14 14:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @zotz I am not as concerned with more "freedoms" for creators as I am with Freedom for everyone. | Dec 14 14:37 | |
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| schestowitz | http://wordpress.org/news/2011/12/sonny/ | Dec 14 14:46 |
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| schestowitz | Does anyone know if there are security fixes in it? | Dec 14 14:46 |
| schestowitz | I use the last version which follows a security issue | Dec 14 14:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] Actually, I think that depends on who you are and how you blink. | Dec 14 14:47 | |
| schestowitz | I don't upgrade for bugfixes that are not security-related | Dec 14 14:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Artificial "tests" of the ripple feature will never deliver real results. #justsayin | Dec 14 14:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] Actually, the law takes away creators ability to choose. Their copyrightable works get copyrighted whether they want it or not. | Dec 14 14:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] Creators could still choose even if CC did not offer those choices. The FSF doesnt offer non-Free s/w licenses yet coders can still choose. | Dec 14 14:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK Government plans to improve UK's #copyright laws - http://bit.ly/uEm9S5 consultation on implementing Hargreaves (v @copyrightgirl) | Dec 14 14:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] Not in 140 characters. | Dec 14 14:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Spring Framework 3.1 released (H): http://bit.ly/tyHM0y | Dec 14 14:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] If group A added the Free colours and group B added the non-Free, the issue would not be as big of a problem. | Dec 14 14:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] Creative Commons does not result in a commons at all. | Dec 14 14:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA Adopted By EU Governments, Now in EU Parliament's Hands - http://bit.ly/s8MoNx so much for "democracy"... | Dec 14 15:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ACTA Adopted By EU Governments, Now in EU Parliament's Hands http://is.gd/ErLt6A #acta | Dec 14 15:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ACTA Adopted By EU Governments, Now in EU Parliament's Hands | La Quadrature du Net .::. Size~: 35.39 KB | Dec 14 15:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] In the Summer of 2001, 3 great HipHop albums came out of NY.You heard of Stillmatic & Blueprint,but doubt you heard of Disposable Arts | Dec 14 15:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #np Masta Ace - Dear Diary | Dec 14 15:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] The entire album revolves around Ace going to a fictional Hip HopUniversity | Dec 14 15:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Divergence From #Microsoft Front Groups http://ur1.ca/6os09 #bsa | Dec 14 15:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] How did @mastaace's Disposable Arts go unnoticed? This right here is the cleverest lyricist of all time | Dec 14 15:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "Hot like a stream of pissing" Acknowledge the rep. | Dec 14 15:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] the second batch of 100 #osmocom #simtrace units has arrived from the factory. 99% yield, need to debug one unit. http://bit.ly/a8F6CP | Dec 14 15:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody #ACTA Adopted By EU Governments, Now in EU Parliament's Hands - http://bit.ly/s8MoNx so much for "democracy"... | Dec 14 15:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] KDE Plasma Active Two released http://ur1.ca/6os3p | Dec 14 15:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @parlementum | Dec 14 15:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @zotz Actually, the law takes away creators ability to choose. Their copyrightable works get copyrighted whether they want it or not. | Dec 14 15:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] !KDE Plasma Active Two Boosts Performance, New Features → http://ur1.ca/6os6m !linux !fs | Dec 14 15:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz that is one of the worst things. The reason I support !CC is because I see it as a workaround (at least until @Crosbie wins) | Dec 14 15:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #np Masta Ace - Acknowledge "I'd even diss you on your own track, if your shit wasn't that whack." | Dec 14 15:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Hip Hop stays true to it's roots. | Dec 14 15:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Botnets Versus Comes Versus #Microsoft http://ur1.ca/6os8n #comes #antitrust | Dec 14 15:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Shout out to @mastaace Cat still has it. #np DisposableArts the album. Every track's a highlight! #HipHop #TheJuiceCrew | Dec 14 15:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Will be working on a descriptive/narrative,hip hop map of NY. Hopefully map will be highlighted where different hip hop cats come from. | Dec 14 15:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Better help folks get an understanding of the psyche of NY rap, how different localities affected different styles,lyrics etc | Dec 14 15:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Yay Black Episode, be that track y'all have heard of. | Dec 14 15:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] RT @jrepin !KDE Plasma Active Two Boosts Performance, New Features → http://ur1.ca/6os6m !linux !fs | Dec 14 15:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Writers Guild Realizing That #SOPA Goes Too Far; Union Support For Censoring The Internet Begins To Crack - http://bit.ly/sLWhLW who's next? | Dec 14 15:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Writers Guild Realizing That SOPA Goes Too Far; Union Support For Censoring The Internet Begins To Crack | Techdirt .::. Size~: 50.11 KB | Dec 14 15:30 |
| *prurigro gives channel operator status to schestowitz | Dec 14 15:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Software Patents in the EU Become a Central Concern Again http://ur1.ca/6osj7 #swpats | Dec 14 15:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ReadWriteWeb Acquired by SAY Media - http://rww.to/voptTC no word on the dosh involved... #publishing | Dec 14 15:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #np Masta Ace - Take A Walk ft. Apocalypse | Dec 14 15:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "You could even buy your own clothes on the block,imagine that..." S/o to all my Jeri peeps; Beirut,Kingstone, Baghdad, I see you! | Dec 14 15:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] S/o to all my Unye peeps, Salem, Kismenti, I see you! | Dec 14 15:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] D, I see you too. Caltex, Total, Phase II, M.A.U *2 I see you too! | Dec 14 15:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] I dare you to take a walk across Owanjo Soo at 6.45pm. #jericho #eastlands | Dec 14 15:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Wonder how the Colonel managed to shoot the mtaani.com video in the middle or Jeri It's the reason I know better than to fuck with Mustafa. | Dec 14 15:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] He knows real gees for real. #colonel | Dec 14 15:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Avril musta chickened out moment she learnt the video was gonna be shot in the hood. | Dec 14 15:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Me and my cat Mucheru used to walk all the way to Lumush to buy weed from this cat. Heard the peddler got shot a coupla weeks ago | Dec 14 15:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #ifyourassfromeastlandsdontactlike Your first weed guy didn't get shot by the cops. | Dec 14 15:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] If your ass from Eastlands , don't act like you don't own a bra/top or two from Mutindwa. That applies to Buru folks too! | Dec 14 15:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #ifyourassfromeastlandsdontactlike Like your daddy's car didn't break down every other day. | Dec 14 15:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #ifyourassfromeastlandsdontactlike You never rocked those obnoxious silver grey Sean Jean pants in the noughties | Dec 14 15:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #ifyourassfromeastlandsdontactlike You didn't grow up thinking cats from Buru owned Kenya and shit. | Dec 14 15:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] su -c 'yum install vlc' | Dec 14 15:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] SUSE in Clouds, OpenSUSE in Marketing Mode http://ur1.ca/6ossx #suse #opensuse #novell | Dec 14 15:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #ifyourassfromeastlandsdontactlike You didn't lose your virginity a kange in the backseat of a fly matt | Dec 14 15:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #ifyourassfromeastlandsdontactlike You didn't lose your virginity to your neighbour's mboch. | Dec 14 15:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #ifyourassfromeastlandsdontactlike You never traded booty for free rides on tight matts. | Dec 14 15:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #ifyourassfromeastlandsdontactlike You were never sent with a jerry can to go buy "mafuta taa"/kerosene from the Petrol Station | Dec 14 15:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #ifyourassfromeastlandsdontactlike You was weaned on Spaghetti and shit like that | Dec 14 15:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] It would not be a "tremendous task" to do domain blacklisting. Wikipedia does it already. See http://identi.ca/url/37706010 | Dec 14 15:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #ifyourassfromeastlandsdontactlike You hate public transportation. (Eff that!) | Dec 14 15:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I disagree with #SOPA but there's a specious argument here. /cc @brionv | Dec 14 15:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] RT @fsfe What we did at FSFE in 2011: Overview now online at http://l.fsfe.org/2011 Thanks to everyone who supported us! | Dec 14 15:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #ifyourassfromeastlandsdontactlike You weren't bought chips and sodas and sausages around end month. | Dec 14 15:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] What do you know. On Google Hangout with back in the day peeps Sanjay Parekh and Donnie Mucheru. | Dec 14 15:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] Excuse me? | Dec 14 15:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #ifyourassfromeastlandsdontactlike You made trips to the supermarket erryday! | Dec 14 15:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #ifyourassfromeastlandsdontactlike You ain't never been mugged by a coupla mean goons.(Juma,the day we cross paths..some beef is eternal) | Dec 14 15:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] CalTech sets new networking speed record, 186Gbps (Ubergizmo): http://bit.ly/tcoju1 | Dec 14 15:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #ifyourassfromeastlandsdontactlike You ain't never rocked Safari boots to make it look like you was mean mugging! | Dec 14 15:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] That would be fine with me. Not sure that is how CC is leaning though. Or in keeping with their founding push. | Dec 14 15:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 186Gbps is new Networking speed record | Ubergizmo .::. Size~: 23.76 KB | Dec 14 15:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #ifyourassfromeastlandsdontactlike You never had your rubber tyre toy snatched to light up a thug! | Dec 14 15:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #ifyourassfromeastlandsdontactlike You ain't never been part of a mob dishing out justice | Dec 14 15:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #ifyourassfromeastlandsdontactlike You never been to those open air mobile cinema movies | Dec 14 15:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #ifyourassfromeastlandsdontactlike You didn't turn the darklit pathways and corners into a 'base' where you'd light up the stinky! | Dec 14 15:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Amazon Silk “split” cloud browser no faster than normal browsers (ExtremeTech): http://bit.ly/sSZGPe | Dec 14 15:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #ifyourassfromeastlandsdontactlike You never owned one of those Greatwall tellies. #speakchinese | Dec 14 15:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] If you live in Nairobi and have never been to Eastlands, you don't fucking know what Nai's about. | Dec 14 15:57 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Amazon Silk revisited: Is the “split” cloud browser any faster? | ExtremeTech .::. Size~: 42.02 KB | Dec 14 15:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #np Masta Ace - Alphabet Soup | Dec 14 15:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Another OpenShift review - for your reading pleasure and to get you interested in trying it yourself. Yes, it's free. ... http://b1t.it/abQl | Dec 14 15:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] And another thing, if your ass ain't from Eastlands, don't even think about talking shit about Eastlands! | Dec 14 16:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Online piracy laws must preserve Web freedom - http://bit.ly/tr4aIj another good explanation of why #SOPA is bad | Dec 14 16:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Online piracy laws must preserve Web freedom - CNN.com .::. Size~: 39.88 KB | Dec 14 16:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Outercurve Developer Survey - http://ur1.ca/6otbx some interesting stats on #opensource use and attitudes | Dec 14 16:05 | |
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| schestowitz | Blech | Dec 14 16:07 |
| schestowitz | MS front group | Dec 14 16:07 |
| schestowitz | Why does Glyn even help them | Dec 14 16:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Max #Mosley Sues Google For Unflattering Search Results - Creating Even More - http://bit.ly/tE04ug v fine study in #fail | Dec 14 16:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Max Mosley Sues Google For Unflattering Search Results -- Creating Even More Unflattering Search Results | Techdirt .::. Size~: 49.03 KB | Dec 14 16:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Full text: Open letter from Silicon Valley execs opposing #SOPA - http://cnet.co/vhpRd8 impressive line-up | Dec 14 16:17 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Full text: Open letter from Silicon Valley execs opposing SOPA | Privacy Inc. - CNET News .::. Size~: 73.54 KB | Dec 14 16:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] RT @flossweekly Coming up in about an hour, @merlyn and @webmink interview Monty (MySQL and MariaDB). Watch/chat at http://live.twit.tv/ | Dec 14 16:20 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: TWiT Live - netcasts you love, from people you trust .::. Size~: 9.57 KB | Dec 14 16:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Totally agree. Always better to have friendlies poke holes in your arguments before hostiles get to it, though. | Dec 14 16:22 | |
| schestowitz | LOL http://www.taiwannews.com.tw/etn/news_content.php?id=1784889 | Dec 14 16:25 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: ^^ | Dec 14 16:26 |
| schestowitz | Orban the tyrant would approve another | Dec 14 16:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @jerezim: Govs know #ACTA would be very difficult to obtain through regular legislative process, so they have it imposed through back door | Dec 14 16:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @eebrah RD @muungwana i wrote a simple to use qt based frontend to #cryptsetup http://ur1.ca/6ok2j /cc @nj3ma @dennisMungai @kelzOKO ... | Dec 14 16:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: zulucrypt - A cli and GUI front end to cryptsetup - Google Project Hosting .::. Size~: 13.96 KB | Dec 14 16:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #SOPA Fixes Isolate Opponents, especially Google - http://onforb.es/srhwDP wow, what a delusional anti-google rant | Dec 14 16:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: SOPA Fixes Isolate Opponents, especially Google - Forbes .::. Size~: 100.45 KB | Dec 14 16:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah How did it go? | Dec 14 16:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Apple made #Galaxy Tab a 'household name': Samsung - http://bit.ly/vd8wb0 well, poetic justice | Dec 14 16:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellog2/@kernellog2] Coming in 3.2 (Part 4) - Infrastructure http://t.co/zQXn0x3z #linux #kernel #infra #storage #dm #virt #mm | Dec 14 16:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UN, IMF join opposition to ICANN top-level domain plans - http://bit.ly/vPY1tG #icann increasingly isolated... | Dec 14 16:42 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: UN, IMF join opposition to ICANN top-level domain plans • The Register .::. Size~: 27.84 KB | Dec 14 16:42 |
| schestowitz | http://arebentisch.wordpress.com/2011/12/13/3513/ | Dec 14 16:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Neelie Kroes answers her German critics « Sköne Oke .::. Size~: 40.15 KB | Dec 14 16:43 |
| schestowitz | "As a result of turmoil in parts of the German society on the appointment of Karl Theodor zu Guttenberg for her “No Diconnect Strategy” Neelie Kroes issued another statement in her blog in German and English language." | Dec 14 16:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Government and private policing - http://bit.ly/t3k2KX bad stuff coming our way in the UK #copyright #piracy | Dec 14 16:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ACTA goes South http://ur1.ca/6ou9m | Dec 14 16:45 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 100 years after Amundsen ACTA goes South « Sköne Oke .::. Size~: 37.45 KB | Dec 14 16:45 |
| XFaCE | http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/6200/135/ | Dec 14 16:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 14 16:47 |
| *XFaCE gives channel operator status to cubezzz | Dec 14 16:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] Can you help the #OpenStreetMap project? http://blog.osmfoundation.org/2011/12/01/funding-drive/ | Dec 14 16:48 | |
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| XFaCE | DaemonFC: http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/6200/135/ | Dec 14 16:51 |
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| schestowitz | DrPizza: killah feacha! http://www.linuxnov.com/paypal-payment-method-is-coming-to-ubuntu-software-center/ | Dec 14 16:51 |
| XFaCE | Impecable logic on the public safety minister | Dec 14 16:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: PayPal Payment Method Is Coming To Ubuntu Software Center | LinuxNov .::. Size~: 52.72 KB | Dec 14 16:51 |
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| *XFaCE gives channel operator status to msb__ | Dec 14 16:51 | |
| *XFaCE gives voice to msb__ | Dec 14 16:51 | |
| prurigro | he's filling the shoes of stockwell day, what can you expect :) | Dec 14 16:52 |
| XFaCE | prurigro: Thing is, even stockwell day wasn't using this approach | Dec 14 16:52 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Firefox-is-bursting-at-the-seams-1393772.html | Dec 14 16:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Firefox is bursting at the seams - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.31 KB | Dec 14 16:53 |
| XFaCE | prurigro: "Former Conservative Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day stated in 2007 that "we have not and we will not be proposing legislation to grant police the power to get information from Internet companies without a warrant. " | Dec 14 16:53 |
| DaemonFC | Bloatzilla Firechrome | Dec 14 16:53 |
| XFaCE | Firefaux | Dec 14 16:53 |
| prurigro | haha, noone's wrong all the time | Dec 14 16:53 |
| XFaCE | prurigro: You know what this means of course if this passes | Dec 14 16:53 |
| XFaCE | Encryption and Redirection time! | Dec 14 16:54 |
| prurigro | haha, been preparing for this since August :) | Dec 14 16:54 |
| XFaCE | prurigro: interesting... | Dec 14 16:54 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Shame about Firefox | Dec 14 16:55 |
| DaemonFC | it's a Windows problem | Dec 14 16:55 |
| DaemonFC | so many people use 32-bit Windows | Dec 14 16:55 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: For good reason | Dec 14 16:55 |
| DaemonFC | 32-bit x86 is a minority in Linux | Dec 14 16:55 |
| DaemonFC | only about 20% or so | Dec 14 16:55 |
| XFaCE | Windows 64 is crap | Dec 14 16:55 |
| XFaCE | I mean Windows is crap in general, | Dec 14 16:55 |
| prurigro | I like how firefox started as the lightweight alternative to mozilla | Dec 14 16:55 |
| prurigro | now it is mozilla | Dec 14 16:56 |
| XFaCE | but Windows 64 is even more specialized crap | Dec 14 16:56 |
| prurigro | we all just have faster computers | Dec 14 16:56 |
| DaemonFC | prurigro: Firefox didn't remove bloat | Dec 14 16:56 |
| DaemonFC | it removed the perception of bloat | Dec 14 16:56 |
| XFaCE | prurigro: Since Seamonkey will likely have the same fate, looks like I'll have to move to another email prog again | Dec 14 16:56 |
| prurigro | DaemonFC, it was much less bloated when it came out | Dec 14 16:56 |
| DaemonFC | it removed about 3/4ths of the features to become about 5% smaller | Dec 14 16:56 |
| prurigro | DaemonFC, mozilla was useless on my P2 350 | Dec 14 16:57 |
| prurigro | firefox worked fine | Dec 14 16:57 |
| schestowitz | firefox is a heavy pile of functionality | Dec 14 16:57 |
| prurigro | XFaCE, aren't you going linux? | Dec 14 16:57 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: I think Mozilla will have to take action now | Dec 14 16:57 |
| DaemonFC | there's almost no difference in system requirements | Dec 14 16:57 |
| XFaCE | prurigro: After exams :P | Dec 14 16:57 |
| DaemonFC | between Firefox and Seamonkey | Dec 14 16:57 |
| XFaCE | and hopefully, with your help :) | Dec 14 16:57 |
| prurigro | XFaCE, sounds good haha | Dec 14 16:57 |
| schestowitz | Firefox is just something to throw many valuable plugins at in case your fast browsers cannot do the same thing due to no XUL compatibility | Dec 14 16:57 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Except for the extra size from integrated clients | Dec 14 16:58 |
| prurigro | schestowitz, its a nice dev environment too | Dec 14 16:58 |
| schestowitz | I made two themes for it | Dec 14 16:58 |
| prurigro | schestowitz, firefox? | Dec 14 16:58 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, 1.0 | Dec 14 16:58 |
| prurigro | link? | Dec 14 16:59 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Question, wasn't PalmOS free software at one point? | Dec 14 16:59 |
| DaemonFC | Opera is better than Chromium | Dec 14 17:00 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: This is because I suggested that WebOS becoming Free was "coming full circle", as I was under the assumption that PalmOs was free | Dec 14 17:00 |
| schestowitz | !google royzilla | Dec 14 17:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - ROYZILLA TATTOOS | http://royzillaone.tumblr.com/ | Dec 14 17:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Royzilla - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DbIzA5HWQCsQ | Dec 14 17:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Royzilla's profile - Sketchfu | http://sketchfu.com/profile/Royzilla | Dec 14 17:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Death To False Tattoos - Submitted by royzilla Royzilla. Skindecor... | http://deathtofalsetattoos.com/post/5809690702/submitted-by-royzilla-royzilla-skindecor | Dec 14 17:00 |
| DaemonFC | Google managed to make a huge mess out of open source soup | Dec 14 17:00 |
| prurigro | DaemonFC, depends what you're using it for | Dec 14 17:00 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Midori, man! Midori | Dec 14 17:00 |
| schestowitz | hmmm... | Dec 14 17:00 |
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| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Software/RoyZilla/ | Dec 14 17:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: PimpZilla Blue and Firefox Themes Test-bed .::. Size~: 3.51 KB | Dec 14 17:00 |
| DaemonFC | I haven't once started Chrome and thought "Gee, this is something I can use daily" | Dec 14 17:01 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog_Frames/firefoxmac.png | Dec 14 17:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Dec 14 17:01 |
| DaemonFC | it has so many problems that I keep it installed as a curiosity | Dec 14 17:01 |
| XFaCE | lol Royzilla http://image.bayimg.com/kakabaadn.jpg | Dec 14 17:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Dec 14 17:01 |
| schestowitz | http://blog.ness.com/spl/bid/72218/Adobe-is-being-disingenuous-with-Flex-Developers | Dec 14 17:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Adobe is Being Disingenuous with Flex Developers .::. Size~: 46.99 KB | Dec 14 17:01 |
| DaemonFC | srs bsns | Dec 14 17:01 |
| schestowitz | Trash Devs | Dec 14 17:01 |
| DaemonFC | Nvidia has "open sourced" their CUDA compiler | Dec 14 17:02 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: it's a bad photo, I have a moustache experiment going there | Dec 14 17:02 |
| DaemonFC | they haven't announced what the license is | Dec 14 17:02 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Great quasi-meme tho | Dec 14 17:02 |
| DaemonFC | and they hide it behind a registration form that makes you give them your name and why you're using their code | Dec 14 17:02 |
| XFaCE | ;D | Dec 14 17:02 |
| DaemonFC | so yeah "open source" | Dec 14 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | whatever | Dec 14 17:03 |
| schestowitz | I moustache you a question, but I'm shaving it for later.. | Dec 14 17:03 |
| XFaCE | Random, but funny | Dec 14 17:03 |
| XFaCE | B+ | Dec 14 17:03 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: can they? | Dec 14 17:03 |
| schestowitz | I have access to CUDA machine | Dec 14 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | at least AMDIL meets the criteria of open source per the OSI definition | Dec 14 17:04 |
| schestowitz | I was also told this month I can buy a machine with CUDA and $EMPLOYER will cover all the costs | Dec 14 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | free software too | Dec 14 17:04 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: ReQuestion, wasn't PalmOS free software at one point? | Dec 14 17:04 |
| schestowitz | [For personal use too] | Dec 14 17:04 |
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| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Have you tried Midori yet? | Dec 14 17:04 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: no | Dec 14 17:04 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: I remember Torvald's autobiography saying it was tho | Dec 14 17:05 |
| schestowitz | I blogged a lot about Palm in 2003-2005 | Dec 14 17:05 |
| schestowitz | There was the garnet era | Dec 14 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I'm not sure about what Nvidia has done lately | Dec 14 17:05 |
| schestowitz | And lots of vapourware | Dec 14 17:05 |
| XFaCE | as a contrast to Sun not making JVM free software at the time | Dec 14 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | my last Nvidia card was a Geforce 9500 GT that I gave away | Dec 14 17:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Urgent: more action needed to stop #SOPA http://ur1.ca/6oupj | Dec 14 17:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Urgent: more action needed to stop SOPA - Creative Commons .::. Size~: 23.83 KB | Dec 14 17:05 |
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| DaemonFC | AMD seems to be taking OpenCL seriously | Dec 14 17:05 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: not even in 1999 or 2000? | Dec 14 17:05 |
| schestowitz | inc. the move to Linux, Organge vapourware, ACCESS deal... then Foleo, WebOS, HP, Leo promise, TouchPad fail, now this whole hoi polloi over open source | Dec 14 17:06 |
| schestowitz | oh | Dec 14 17:06 |
| DaemonFC | OpenCL is another one of those "Apple" things they didn't really invent | Dec 14 17:06 |
| schestowitz | And there was the MS-Palm deal over the Treo as well | Dec 14 17:06 |
| schestowitz | !google treo microsoft | Dec 14 17:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - A New Palm Treo Uses Microsoft's Software, But It Doesn't Beat 650 ... | http://allthingsd.com/20060105/a-new-palm-treo-doesnt-beat-the-650/ | Dec 14 17:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - for Windows Mobile - Microsoft | http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx%3Fid%3D8299 | Dec 14 17:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - PalmOne Treo 750v Microsoft Windows Mobile Unlocked Phone | http://www.cellhut.com/PalmOne-Treo-750v-Unlocked-Microsoft-Windows-GSM-Cell-Phone-8834.html | Dec 14 17:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Configure Palm Treo 755p to sync with Microsoft Exchange Server ... | http://www.apps4rent.com/support/kb/article/configure-palm-treo-755p-to-sync-with-microsoft-exchange-server | Dec 14 17:06 |
| DaemonFC | they rebranded it after it was mostly done | Dec 14 17:06 |
| XFaCE | !google opencl | Dec 14 17:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - OpenCL - The open standard for parallel programming of ... | http://www.khronos.org/opencl/ | Dec 14 17:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - OpenCL - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenCL | Dec 14 17:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - OpenCL - NVIDIA | http://www.nvidia.com/page/pg_55999.html | Dec 14 17:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - OpenCL™ Zone | AMD Developer Central | http://developer.amd.com/zones/openclzone/pages/default.aspx | Dec 14 17:06 |
| DaemonFC | just like LLVM | Dec 14 17:06 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: no AFAIK | Dec 14 17:07 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Hmm. I'll have to go the library and pop open "Just for Fun" to see what he actually wrote | Dec 14 17:07 |
| schestowitz | PalmOne I almost forgot about.. | Dec 14 17:08 |
| schestowitz | And it swapped heads and CEOs so many times | Dec 14 17:08 |
| schestowitz | I still use a Pakm daily | Dec 14 17:08 |
| schestowitz | Palm writes techrights | Dec 14 17:08 |
| schestowitz | Most of it anyway | Dec 14 17:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I am sure there's an argument to be made, but it's currently factually inaccurate and -probably- shouldn't be in the official opinion. | Dec 14 17:08 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Nvidia likes to NIH things | Dec 14 17:08 |
| DaemonFC | and then make the specification "available" (how nice of them) | Dec 14 17:09 |
| schestowitz | Today's 4 posts were all edited and written in Palm OS, and that's just typical | Dec 14 17:09 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: The microsoft wat | Dec 14 17:09 |
| XFaCE | way | Dec 14 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | it lets them compete with open standards that already exist and don't favor any particular vendor | Dec 14 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | vdpau is finally supported on radeons by way of a Gallium3d state tracker | Dec 14 17:09 |
| schestowitz | Today I wrote those posts between sets | Dec 14 17:09 |
| schestowitz | I also made an attempt to break a British record and failed... a week left to try | Dec 14 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | codec decoding acceleration has always been fragmented and without a really open standard | Dec 14 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | radeons have UVD but that only works in proprietary Catalyst drivers | Dec 14 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | and AMD won't give their people "clearance" to release it | Dec 14 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | so if vdpau hadn't already been the de facto standard, AMD just shot UVD again | Dec 14 17:11 |
| schestowitz | I got back into fish diet... the vacation messed up my shape... and it didn't help that I had been seeing 4 different girls in the past 3 weeks, either. :-p | Dec 14 17:11 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Sad that Intel still win in Freedom here. [irony] | Dec 14 17:11 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Unless there's another graphics player I haven't heard about | Dec 14 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | nah | Dec 14 17:11 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Thought so | Dec 14 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | vdpau is open enough that the only real losers are people who run proprietary AMD Catalyst | Dec 14 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | or Intel | Dec 14 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Dec 14 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | well, i915g supports the vdpau state tracker | Dec 14 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | but it's not from Intel | Dec 14 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | it's written with Intel's public documentation | Dec 14 17:13 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Sandy Bridge has DRM crap, but I haven't heard anything on how that effects the Linux support | Dec 14 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | all the gallium drivers support vdpau | Dec 14 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | and so does Nvidia proprietary | Dec 14 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | and between vdpau and uvd, I think vdpau is the better one | Dec 14 17:13 |
| schestowitz | MS PR from Gavin http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/12/08/open_source_windows_8_windows_store/ | Dec 14 17:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft welcomes OSI open source to Win8 store • The Register .::. Size~: 26.98 KB | Dec 14 17:13 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: why would a home user want CUDA? | Dec 14 17:14 |
| XFaCE | "Most, but not all, open-source apps are being welcomed by Microsoft into the Windows 8 Windows Store." | Dec 14 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | they probably wouldn't | Dec 14 17:14 |
| schestowitz | or for that matter,a good GPU/physics processing unit? | Dec 14 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | games | Dec 14 17:14 |
| schestowitz | it's uneconomic | Dec 14 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | realistic physics | Dec 14 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | it's actually perfectly suited to this | Dec 14 17:14 |
| schestowitz | better to use that in some game station | Dec 14 17:14 |
| schestowitz | You use up so much wafer and maybe spent on it an hour a day | Dec 14 17:15 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: What's the problem? MS seems to be very forthcoming and open to the OSS commun... | Dec 14 17:15 |
| XFaCE | "The invitation does not extend to GPL." | Dec 14 17:15 |
| schestowitz | CUDA is crazy expensive | Dec 14 17:15 |
| XFaCE | Oh | Dec 14 17:15 |
| XFaCE | Well, who didn't see that coming? | Dec 14 17:15 |
| schestowitz | I think I was offered it just to show off about how big a grant we got from the ERC | Dec 14 17:15 |
| XFaCE | Follow the trojan horse! | Dec 14 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | supporting a physics and gpgpu API on programmable video accelerator hardware is like, basically free | Dec 14 17:15 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: Florian horse? | Dec 14 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | you already had more or less everything you needed to enable all of that just by having programmable shaders for the video accelerator | Dec 14 17:15 |
| schestowitz | BTW, I don't heard much about/of Florian since his MS disclosure | Dec 14 17:16 |
| schestowitz | [Which is what we want] | Dec 14 17:16 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: I'm talking about the MS PR on the register | Dec 14 17:16 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: I still see BS floating around | Dec 14 17:16 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: It's like saying you went out to get a Volkswagon and someone offered you a brand new Dodge Charger for 5% more | Dec 14 17:16 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 14 17:16 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: whose? | Dec 14 17:16 |
| schestowitz | whose BS? | Dec 14 17:17 |
| schestowitz | Florian's? | Dec 14 17:17 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Hey, don't diss Volkswagens, except for their mediocre reliability | Dec 14 17:17 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Florian works | Dec 14 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | and insanely high cost for parts | Dec 14 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | even stuff you'd consider wear items | Dec 14 17:17 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: anything specific? | Dec 14 17:17 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: I've seen some his BS (appears to be new) floating around | Dec 14 17:17 |
| XFaCE | unfortunately now | Dec 14 17:17 |
| XFaCE | now | Dec 14 17:17 |
| schestowitz | can you find it?| | Dec 14 17:17 |
| XFaCE | no | Dec 14 17:17 |
| schestowitz | We need to tackle the BS machine | Dec 14 17:17 |
| schestowitz | he reuses MS talking po8nts | Dec 14 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | if I was going to be driving something around that costs a fortune to fix and breaks down all the time, I'd accept an upgrade if it didn't cost a lot more | Dec 14 17:18 |
| schestowitz | from MS pR persons | Dec 14 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 14 17:18 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: his blog appears to be updated | Dec 14 17:18 |
| schestowitz | if we hammer hard on the FUD, they cannot use it any lnmger | Dec 14 17:18 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: yes, but is it being noticed? | Dec 14 17:18 |
| schestowitz | It's a lone blog with no comments allowed since people started to actually call his BS in them | Dec 14 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | Dave Airlie mentioned that modern video cards are 10-15 times more complicated than they were about 10 years ago | Dec 14 17:19 |
| XFaCE | http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=newssearch&cd=3&ved=0CD0QqQIwAg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pcmag.com%2Farticle2%2F0%2C2817%2C2397614%2C00.asp&ctbm=nws&ei=ntroTt2zEaTL0QHyppCPCA&usg=AFQjCNGLyFup1XqFw_DUJFemRYqxInWvRQ&sig2=TopMUP95SaFD_Fo93nMFPw | Dec 14 17:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 14 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | and the number of open source developers working on them has maybe doubled | Dec 14 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | so I respect the goal of Gallium3d | Dec 14 17:19 |
| schestowitz | Took him just weeks or a couple of month at most to block all new comments | Dec 14 17:19 |
| XFaCE | http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=newssearch&cd=4&ved=0CEgQqQIwAw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pcworld.com%2Farticle%2F245875%2Fgerman_court_issues_injunction_against_apple_products.html&ctbm=nws&ei=ntroTt2zEaTL0QHyppCPCA&usg=AFQjCNEgPjiWunm0CWoer0zaYkZVcBbDfg&sig2=gftsNOhjnxVDBhmI6nubMw | Dec 14 17:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 14 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | to be an efficient and as close to universal as they can make it | Dec 14 17:20 |
| XFaCE | That seems to be it | Dec 14 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | *as | Dec 14 17:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Yes and no. We have an old system for doing it with XMPP, but not yet with OStatus. | Dec 14 17:20 | |
| DaemonFC | their goal is basically the 90/10 rule | Dec 14 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | if they can get 90% of the functionality from 10% as much code, they're happy | Dec 14 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | so am I really | Dec 14 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | classic Mesa was an unusable snowballing mess | Dec 14 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | when they say 90%, they mean as opposed to running nvidia or fglrx | Dec 14 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | a lot of the best software comes from groups that are resource constrained | Dec 14 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | and have a clearly defined goal | Dec 14 17:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @creativecommons Urgent: more action needed to stop #SOPA http://ur1.ca/6oupj | Dec 14 17:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Urgent: more action needed to stop SOPA - Creative Commons .::. Size~: 23.83 KB | Dec 14 17:22 |
| DaemonFC | when you get a project like Firefox with lots of developers, lots of funding, lots of opportunity to add stupid crap, and an only vaguely defined roadmap.... | Dec 14 17:22 |
| DaemonFC | I think it explains quite well why Firefox is like it is | Dec 14 17:22 |
| DaemonFC | ;) | Dec 14 17:22 |
| DaemonFC | "Oh look, no OpenGL support for you!" | Dec 14 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | "But, we added hundreds of lines of code to determine when the protocol being used should be shown in the address bar!" | Dec 14 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | Opera came up with something totally different | Dec 14 17:24 |
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| DaemonFC | apparently theirs only requires a few lines of code and is meant to de-emphaize the kinds of long URLs that phishing sites try to display | Dec 14 17:24 |
| DaemonFC | and instead, it focuses on making sure the user knows the domain they are on and the protocol being used | Dec 14 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | (and OpenGL support works on any reasonably correct OpenGL driver) | Dec 14 17:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Aren't there already systems in place to deal with trademark disputes? This seems like a red herring. | Dec 14 17:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] "We have a way to do it in StatusNet", but it's not operational on Identi.ca. | Dec 14 17:25 | |
| DaemonFC | both solutions give you smaller URLs, but Firefox's is dozens of times more complicated and frequently removes information the user should have to emphasize less important information | Dec 14 17:26 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Firefox has a lot of things that irritate me lately | Dec 14 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | it's a pretty even split between "You're only doing that because Chrome does that" and "I don't think you're doing what you think you're doing" | Dec 14 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | all things being equal, I'd just recommend that everyone ditch Firefox and go for Seamonkey | Dec 14 17:31 |
| DaemonFC | but even though Seamonkey is the superior browser software, the popularity of Firefox is a detriment to Seamonkey | Dec 14 17:31 |
| DaemonFC | extension developers don't test or include Seamonkey in their installation headers | Dec 14 17:31 |
| DaemonFC | distributions are frequently 2-3 versions behind | Dec 14 17:32 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: That seems to be changing a bit at least | Dec 14 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | it's so bad that if you want Seamonkey itself to be up to date, you need Mozilla's tarball | Dec 14 17:32 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Thunderbird users have begun to see Seamonkey as a superior alternative | Dec 14 17:32 |
| XFaCE | more like old Thunderbird | Dec 14 17:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #KDE SC 4.8 Beta 2 Is Available for Testing http://ur1.ca/6ovcf #linux | Dec 14 17:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: KDE SC 4.8 Beta 2 Is Available for Testing - Softpedia .::. Size~: 47.57 KB | Dec 14 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | that's because Seamonkey doesn't have CADT design | Dec 14 17:34 |
| DaemonFC | and Firefox does | Dec 14 17:34 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html | Dec 14 17:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden | Dec 14 17:34 |
| DaemonFC | "Cascade of Attention-Deficit Teenagers" | Dec 14 17:34 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Hmm, are the Firefox derivatives suffereing the same problems? | Dec 14 17:34 |
| XFaCE | IE Icecat,Iceweasel, etc. | Dec 14 17:35 |
| DaemonFC | "This is, I think, the most common way for my bug reports to open source software projects to ever become closed. I report bugs; they go unread for a year, sometimes two; and then (surprise!) that module is rewritten from scratch -- and the new maintainer can't be bothered to check whether his new version has actually solved any of the known problems that existed in the previous version." | Dec 14 17:35 |
| DaemonFC | KDE is a refreshing exception to this | Dec 14 17:35 |
| DaemonFC | KDE has only ever had one major restart | Dec 14 17:35 |
| DaemonFC | and that's when 10 years of sometimes questionable and hard to fix design choices caught up to them | Dec 14 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | KDE 4 is designed to not repeat some of that | Dec 14 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | if you think about it, over the years, more stuff has been yanked out of GNOME and/or rewritten from scratch | Dec 14 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | it's happened twice that GNOME has had a KDE 4 style trash a lot of stuff and start over | Dec 14 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | everything up to KDE 3.5.10 was basically a superset of what came before it | Dec 14 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | and I think the problems leading to KDE 4 are mostly forgivable when you think about it | Dec 14 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | like a lot of open source stuff it started out as a student hobby of bored part time developers | Dec 14 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | and grew outward from there | Dec 14 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | the reboot was painful but it's turning out to be much more of a professional product than much early open source was | Dec 14 17:39 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: KDE 3 wasn't that bad tho | Dec 14 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | most of the major problems of open source operating systems and projects on the scale of X and desktop environments anymore is not because the project is putting out bad code | Dec 14 17:40 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Was the first DE I used actually | Dec 14 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | it's because x86 PC hardware is crap | Dec 14 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | inconsistent behavior | Dec 14 17:40 |
| XFaCE | Kubuntu 7.04 through shipit :) | Dec 14 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | missing or frequently wrong documentation | Dec 14 17:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Nokia Exec: Young People Fed Up With #iPhone and #Android http://goo.gl/KPBEH #Microsofts connection to reality extends to their Nokia dept | Dec 14 17:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nokia Exec: Young People Fed Up With iPhone and Android - Slashdot .::. Size~: 227.47 KB | Dec 14 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | tons of errata | Dec 14 17:40 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Gotta please the Microsoft | Dec 14 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft manipulations | Dec 14 17:40 |
| XFaCE | lol | Dec 14 17:40 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: We are on the same page it seems | Dec 14 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | what we need is to come up with some way of getting an economy of scale going on hardware that Microsoft does not define | Dec 14 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | and then I think a lot of your "open source operating system lulz" will just disappear | Dec 14 17:41 |
| cubezzz | there is, beagleboard is one example | Dec 14 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | right, but what I mean is this | Dec 14 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | some Value Added Reseller/integrator comes along | Dec 14 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | makes you a nice complete system out of this stuff | Dec 14 17:42 |
| cubezzz | Netwalker, example #2 | Dec 14 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | you're not getting it a piece at a time and putting it together with chewing gum and popsicle sticks | Dec 14 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | try giving that to mom, in pieces | Dec 14 17:43 |
| cubezzz | again, look at Netwalker | Dec 14 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 14 17:43 |
| cubezzz | fitpc2 | Dec 14 17:43 |
| *XFaCE ** WinSys ** Client: XChat-WDK 1498-4 (x86) ** OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional ** CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 350 @ 2.27GHz (2.00 GHz) ** RAM: 3501 MB Total (1474 MB Free) ** VGA: Intel(R) HD Graphics ** Uptime: 51.41 Hours ** | Dec 14 17:43 | |
| cubezzz | 3rd example | Dec 14 17:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if Corporate America had it's way, every site that didn't benefit them would be classed as "rogue" & cut off the Internet #SOPA #PIPA | Dec 14 17:43 | |
| XFaCE | two days? I find that hard to believe | Dec 14 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | Sysinfo for 'ryan-MS-7501': Linux 3.2.0-4-generic running KDE Development Platform 4.7.4 (4.7.4), CPU: AMDPhenomIIX4945 at 800 MHz (5986 bogomips), HD: 28/923GB, RAM: 1442/7986MB, 168 proc's, 1.33h up | Dec 14 17:43 |
| cubezzz | retro example: amiga series of computers | Dec 14 17:44 |
| cubezzz | you want none-microsoft stuff, it is out there | Dec 14 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | I'm going to probably wait on KDE 4.8 | Dec 14 17:44 |
| cubezzz | non- | Dec 14 17:44 |
| schestowitz | meh | Dec 14 17:44 |
| XFaCE | " RAM: 3501 MB Total (1474 MB Free)" | Dec 14 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | it has a lot of major stuff on queue | Dec 14 17:44 |
| XFaCE | wow | Dec 14 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | and KDE 4.7.4 is working without a hitch for me right now | Dec 14 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | so I'll wait for 4.8.1 or something | Dec 14 17:44 |
| schestowitz | 4.4 works for me | Dec 14 17:45 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Lol, XFCE is already at 4.8.2, therefore it's better! | Dec 14 17:45 |
| schestowitz | blagblagblag is far ahead | Dec 14 17:45 |
| schestowitz | is Firefox 70 out yet? | Dec 14 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | between 4.7.0 and 4.7.4, KDE has closed roughly ~450 bugs | Dec 14 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | iirc | Dec 14 17:45 |
| cubezzz | ratpoison :) | Dec 14 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | although a bug can be anything and of any degree of severity and frequence | Dec 14 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | so it's not as bad as it sounds | Dec 14 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | their minor release cadence usually closes anywhere from 50-100 bugs | Dec 14 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | per release | Dec 14 17:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] Fair competition through a free market at work. :P | Dec 14 17:47 | |
| schestowitz | in Russia, bugs close YOU | Dec 14 17:47 |
| schestowitz | In Ladislav's DW, bug #1 is Mint! | Dec 14 17:47 |
| cubezzz | you know, there is a BugOS :) | Dec 14 17:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @xface like all Empire's, the point is to funnel ALL resources to the fat cats at the center of the web, leaving everyone else in poverty | Dec 14 17:48 | |
| cubezzz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BugOS | Dec 14 17:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 403 Forbidden | Dec 14 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | I think if I had to pick the most annoying bug in KDE right now, it's not even a KDE bug | Dec 14 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | it's a bug of Qtwebkit | Dec 14 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | and of Adobe Flash | Dec 14 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | and never the two shall meet | Dec 14 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | or.... | Dec 14 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | BOOM | Dec 14 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 14 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | it's actually a problem with Adobe Flash | Dec 14 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | it expects some Mozilla Gecko behavior | Dec 14 17:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Council of Europe (47 states): Freedom of expression is threatened by political pressure on whistleblowers http://t.co/yiFKaHPR | Dec 14 17:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 14 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | that Chrome and Opera emulate well enough that they usually don't crash | Dec 14 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | but qtwebkit and khtml do crash | Dec 14 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | and it's not the first time this issue has come up | Dec 14 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | one of the KDE developers back in 2007 said even Moonlight is preferable to Flash in the area of what to expect from the plugin, and the plugin not making stupid assumptions about your browser | Dec 14 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | though he made himself clear that he was not endorsing Moonlight | Dec 14 17:52 |
| DaemonFC | just making a point that Adobe just assumes everyone uses Chrome or Firefox, and if not, eat shit | Dec 14 17:52 |
| DaemonFC | the sooner Flash dies the better | Dec 14 17:52 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: dont tease blagblagblag! | Dec 14 17:53 |
| cubezzz | you can capture all flash video and play it via mplayer | Dec 14 17:53 |
| cubezzz | problem solved | Dec 14 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | HTML 5 and friends will have bugs, but those bugs will be in the rendering engine's implementation | Dec 14 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | and can be fixed without waiting around for a company that gives you a binary and says use Firefox if you have problems with it | Dec 14 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | Flash and nonfree video drivers are like a rolling roadblock | Dec 14 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | AMD Catalyst says "Use Ubuntu" so you figure Kubuntu is close enough, wrong. | Dec 14 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | "Well, we don't support KDE, it might work, use Unity if you're having problems" | Dec 14 17:55 |
| DaemonFC | so now if you don't want your monitor to not resume from suspend or you don't want Xv to take down the server, you have no choice in what distribution to use | Dec 14 17:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] That's...dumb. | Dec 14 17:55 | |
| DaemonFC | nor can you pick your own preferred desktop environment either | Dec 14 17:55 |
| DaemonFC | then with Flash, your choices are narrowed down to Chrome, Firefox, and usually Opera (though Opera gets no special treatment from Adobe) | Dec 14 17:56 |
| DaemonFC | so if you use proprietary video drivers and Flash you might be stuck with Firefox or Chrome on Unity on Ubuntu | Dec 14 17:56 |
| DaemonFC | then if you buy proprietary video codecs because you can't sleep at night knowing that some MPEG-LA lawyer missed a buck, you can only use the Gstreamer multimedia framework | Dec 14 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | every time you use proprietary software to provide some core functionality, you're whittling down your choices of what software you can still use without it exploding | Dec 14 17:57 |
| cubezzz | I'm flash free on this box | Dec 14 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | and I hope you like Gstreamer applications on Ubuntu with Unity while making sure you don't use the latest X server, while browsing with Firefox, or Chrome, and sometimes Opera, and hoping that interactions between the nonfree software itself doesn't cause your system to explode anyway | Dec 14 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | throwing in proprietary software when there's functional free software does your users a disservice | Dec 14 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | it gives them bugs that they can't fix, and you can't either | Dec 14 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | I'd like it if Ubuntu's Jockey thing stopped popping up and proclaiming that error prone video drivers are some kind of an upgrade | Dec 14 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 14 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | "To bring full functionality...blah blah" | Dec 14 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | no, crashing X when I play a video, if the system even boots back up at all, is not better than what I have now | Dec 14 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | DIE DIE DIE!!! | Dec 14 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Dec 14 18:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] New: Levelling the playing field for procurement of open source solutions by @richardwyles | http://red.ht/umCpD2 | Dec 14 18:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Levelling the playing field for procurement of open source solutions | opensource.com .::. Size~: 57.03 KB | Dec 14 18:05 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1039550 | Dec 14 18:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 14 18:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Chanting on a lie will not make it true one day #ICSVortex !q song: "#Odin's Tree" album: Storm Seeker #heavymetal | Dec 14 18:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #justsayin http://ur1.ca/6owco | Dec 14 18:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jim Jagielski - Google+ - If people really think that SOPA has no chance of passing,… .::. Size~: 44.37 KB | Dec 14 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | I hate +1 | Dec 14 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | this is where someone gives me a +1, right? :) | Dec 14 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | I have my ad blocking filters set to remove the social media spyware from pages I view | Dec 14 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | most of the time I add something to facebook, it's because they gave out a static link in an email that didn't load anything from Facebook | Dec 14 18:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @ZDNet: #Nokia Lumia 710 #Windows Phone launching on T-Mobile on 11 January http://zd.net/sV9jeF /cc @nj3ma @kelzOKO @fredmanglis | Dec 14 18:20 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nokia Lumia 710 Windows Phone launching on T-Mobile on 11 January | ZDNet .::. Size~: 127.29 KB | Dec 14 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | I miss those a lot on actual sites because I don't want Facebook and Google to know each site I visit | Dec 14 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | even when I don't interact with their buttons | Dec 14 18:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @ZDNet: #Nokia Lumia 710 #WP7 launching on T-Mobile 11 Jan http://zd.net/sV9jeF /cc @RamanusAsango @DennisMungai @flintsoul @MwanikiGreen | Dec 14 18:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nokia Lumia 710 Windows Phone launching on T-Mobile on 11 January | ZDNet .::. Size~: 126.18 KB | Dec 14 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | Facebook gathers a lot of data even when you think you've logged out | Dec 14 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | and Google does too | Dec 14 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | and even if you're not a member, they can still see what sites a particular IP address viewed and log it | Dec 14 18:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @reality: Haskell would be the future if I could be bothered.... That said - Javascript, bitches. | Dec 14 18:25 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.jwz.org/gruntle/pisstest.html | Dec 14 18:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden | Dec 14 18:26 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Dec 14 18:26 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/mrshadowfox/statuses/146995944234287104 | Dec 14 18:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @mrshadowfox: #CPB2011 Microsoft can crush OpenSource in Malaysia using NOVELL patents. That's why PIKOM want Software patents. http://t.co/PSJDogPQ | Dec 14 18:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 14 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?65591-Adblock-Plus-betraying-its-users-with-so-called-Acceptable-Ads&p=242084#post242084 | Dec 14 18:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Adblock Plus betraying its users with so-called Acceptable Ads - Page 5 .::. Size~: 82.32 KB | Dec 14 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | "Other than misrepresentations and what I can only gather are exagerations and lies, I'm not exactly 100% on what you could be doing for 100 hours per week. You seem to manage OK if you can buy hundreds of graphics cards, at least several computers (some of them are Macs, which cost 2-3 times more than a comparable non-Apple PC), and pay all your living expenses off a low quality website. If you do ever figure out a way to block people who don't | Dec 14 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | want spyware ads that your site serves up, I don't think your site is valuable enough to even bother subscribing to or flipping my ad blocker off. If I don't make exceptions for sites that matter a lot more, I'm sure as hell not going to bend over backwards so you don't have to find gainful employment. (But as said earlier, you manage somehow). I think you're just greedy and are trying to suck up that last 1-2%. Get over it. You sound like a | Dec 14 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | broken record every time you spread malicious lies about people who don't want to view bandwidth sucking spyware ads. | Dec 14 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | I could comment further, but you can probably make more money strip searching the couch than continuing to complain about people who don't want to buy Microsoft Windows products from a "Linux" site." | Dec 14 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | me to Michael Larabel | Dec 14 18:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] not only prototypes, but continuously during development. we have 2 designers who work with PA, one paid full time. | Dec 14 18:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @speeddefrost Identi.ca will never die. I'll make sure of it. | Dec 14 18:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Wednesday's security updates http://ur1.ca/6owp0 | Dec 14 18:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Wednesday's security updates [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 8.24 KB | Dec 14 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?65591-Adblock-Plus-betraying-its-users-with-so-called-Acceptable-Ads&p=242118#post242118 | Dec 14 18:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Adblock Plus betraying its users with so-called Acceptable Ads - Page 6 .::. Size~: 57.36 KB | Dec 14 18:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Firefox Too Big To Link On 32-bit #Windows http://goo.gl/G9A0o | Dec 14 18:35 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Firefox Too Big To Link On 32-bit Windows - Slashdot .::. Size~: 228.45 KB | Dec 14 18:35 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: IDG had him unhappy too IIRC | Dec 14 18:35 |
| schestowitz | Those ads | Dec 14 18:36 |
| schestowitz | he doesn't really choose those ads | Dec 14 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | well, that's not my problem | Dec 14 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | it's his | Dec 14 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 14 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | he offends people with the ads he chose | Dec 14 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | they block them | Dec 14 18:36 |
| schestowitz | http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2011/12/motorola-wins-injunction-against-apple-could-spell-trouble-for-eu-sales.ars | Dec 14 18:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Motorola wins injunction against Apple, could spell trouble for EU sales .::. Size~: 38.12 KB | Dec 14 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | instead of complaining, he should get ads that are not annoying and offensive so his pleas are not falling on deaf ears | Dec 14 18:37 |
| schestowitz | I hadly see web ads | Dec 14 18:37 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes I see people who see these | Dec 14 18:37 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/12/09/webos-the-latest-open-source-linux-distribution/ | Dec 14 18:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: webOS: The latest open source, Linux distribution .::. Size~: 107.05 KB | Dec 14 18:38 |
| schestowitz | http://mindplusplus.wordpress.com/2011/12/09/do-as-we-sue-not-as-we-do/ | Dec 14 18:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Do As We Sue, Not As We Do « I Am, Therefore I Think .::. Size~: 52.86 KB | Dec 14 18:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #ChrisDodd Resorting To Outright #Lying In A Desperate Attempt To Get #SOPA Passed http://goo.gl/HTmxY #MPAA | Dec 14 18:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] http://ur1.ca/6owub #sip_and_click Sitting down at the desktop (which I should retire) | Dec 14 18:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Chris Dodd Resorting To Outright Lying In A Desperate Attempt To Get SOPA Passed | Techdirt .::. Size~: 77.45 KB | Dec 14 18:38 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAyNjM | Dec 14 18:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] KahelOS: An Easy-To-Use Version Of Arch Linux .::. Size~: 18.79 KB | Dec 14 18:39 |
| schestowitz | promotion of a good distro | Dec 14 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/European-IT-authorities-want-better-OOXML-in-Libre-OpenOffice-1395595.html | Dec 14 18:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: European IT authorities want better OOXML in Libre/OpenOffice - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 41.7 KB | Dec 14 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | Then they should get rid of it | Dec 14 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | and use ODF | Dec 14 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | fuckers | Dec 14 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 14 18:40 |
| schestowitz | Anyway, the business model of phoronix ought to be PTS, not ads | Dec 14 18:40 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: yes | Dec 14 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | The Open Source Business Alliance has created a new working group – "Office Interoperability" | Dec 14 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | Business Alliance> | Dec 14 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | interoperability? | Dec 14 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | I smell Ballmer | Dec 14 18:41 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Dec 14 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 14 18:41 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: i'm aware of the blow statue | Dec 14 18:42 |
| MinceR | it's really sad | Dec 14 18:42 |
| schestowitz | which city was it farted out on? | Dec 14 18:43 |
| MinceR | budapest | Dec 14 18:43 |
| schestowitz | can you get statues cremated? | Dec 14 18:43 |
| MinceR | then again, once most people have fled or died, the remaining savages will just tear it down and sell it | Dec 14 18:43 |
| MinceR | it wouldn't burn | Dec 14 18:43 |
| MinceR | it's not a hypePhone :> | Dec 14 18:43 |
| schestowitz | put batteries on it | Dec 14 18:43 |
| schestowitz | add iOS... BOOM | Dec 14 18:43 |
| schestowitz | It's very sad but also symbolic actually | Dec 14 18:44 |
| schestowitz | decads ago they tore down statues of Stalin which represented communism | Dec 14 18:44 |
| schestowitz | And now they set up a replacement that says "here be drag... Jobs" and herald a new era where the hero is the Mighty $$$ Queen Viktor likes to smell | Dec 14 18:45 |
| MinceR | nah, they'll probably put up statues of orban | Dec 14 18:46 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Chrome-16-brings-support-for-syncing-multiple-accounts-1394757.html | Dec 14 18:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Chrome 16 brings support for syncing multiple accounts - The H Security: News and Features .::. Size~: 44.37 KB | Dec 14 18:47 |
| DaemonFC | Chrome 16 brings KDE file dialogs | Dec 14 18:47 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: they French would not ship those | Dec 14 18:47 |
| DaemonFC | nobody mentions this | Dec 14 18:47 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: they'd prefer to have a local hack do them anyway | Dec 14 18:48 |
| schestowitz | aha | Dec 14 18:48 |
| schestowitz | qt? | Dec 14 18:48 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: anyone left? | Dec 14 18:48 |
| DaemonFC | no, they still use GTK+ | Dec 14 18:48 |
| MinceR | like the paintings celebrating the new fundamentalist constitution | Dec 14 18:48 |
| DaemonFC | they just detect when they are running under KDE | Dec 14 18:48 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: sure. nazis would stay for a while | Dec 14 18:48 |
| DaemonFC | and call KDE's file dialog | Dec 14 18:48 |
| schestowitz | Orban: "keep me your poor, your crippled..." | Dec 14 18:48 |
| DaemonFC | which is a massive usability improvement | Dec 14 18:48 |
| DaemonFC | that isn't being mentioned | Dec 14 18:48 |
| schestowitz | the exodus of smart Germans began before 1939 | Dec 14 18:49 |
| schestowitz | Some of them were beaten up... Nazis hate people who can think for themselves and be listened to | Dec 14 18:49 |
| schestowitz | Stalin mass executed them | Dec 14 18:49 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: usability for whom? | Dec 14 18:50 |
| iophk | Most of those smart Germans ended up in the US. It gave the US a huge technology and science lead for decades until Bush eliminated that advantage. | Dec 14 18:50 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, like Godel | Dec 14 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | people who use KDE and hate GTK's file dialog | Dec 14 18:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks+Manning: Hundreds of videos and transcripts from CSPAN http://t.co/ry6kF2D3 | Dec 14 18:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 14 18:50 |
| schestowitz | The US and USSR even took some of the germans who stayed if they had valuable knowledge | Dec 14 18:50 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: there are "artists" on the nazi side too | Dec 14 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, and the US played down their involvement in the SS | Dec 14 18:51 |
| MinceR | the aforementioned hacks | Dec 14 18:51 |
| schestowitz | It's like watching vultures fighting over the corpses of queen termites | Dec 14 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | the "allies" also agreed not to prosecute Japanese war criminals for testing biological weapons on POWs | Dec 14 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | in exchange for the research papers | Dec 14 18:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] 2011: The Year of Linux Disappointments (Datamation) http://ur1.ca/6ox3v | Dec 14 18:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 2011: The Year of Linux Disappointments (Datamation) [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 8.19 KB | Dec 14 18:52 |
| schestowitz | Justice is relative | Dec 14 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | now whenever you hear "War Criminal" it means Israel alleges that some senile 90 year old on death's doorstep was a Nazi prison guard 70 years ago | Dec 14 18:52 |
| schestowitz | Hungary is not the only country with brain drain | Dec 14 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | and admits it might be the wrong person, but they want to snuff out his life a year or two early anyway | Dec 14 18:52 |
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| schestowitz | And I heard it gives citizenship to people who left long ago too, hoping to attract some talent | Dec 14 18:52 |
| MinceR | "brain drain" makes it sound like it's the foreigners' fault | Dec 14 18:53 |
| MinceR | it's not | Dec 14 18:53 |
| schestowitz | it's more like exodus | Dec 14 18:53 |
| MinceR | it's our voters' and politicians' fault primarily, now | Dec 14 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: It's the fault of the government whose policies encourages the smarter citizens to leave while the getting was good | Dec 14 18:53 |
| schestowitz | one leaves, the rest flock along | Dec 14 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 14 18:53 |
| MinceR | secondarily, that of the previous dictatorships | Dec 14 18:53 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: exactly | Dec 14 18:53 |
| MinceR | well, more or less | Dec 14 18:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] How #SOPA would affect students, educators, and libraries — and what you can do about it. https://eff.org/r.K9u | Dec 14 18:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Afghan woman jailed after being raped is freed after two years in Kabul prison http://gu.com/p/34527 | Dec 14 18:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How SOPA Affects Students, Educators, and Libraries | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 33.89 KB | Dec 14 18:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Afghan woman jailed after being raped is freed after two years in Kabul prison | World news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 92.84 KB | Dec 14 18:53 |
| schestowitz | MS lost a lot of "talent" (ruthless bastards) too | Dec 14 18:53 |
| MinceR | the commies did do a lot of damage in the previous dictatorship and afaik they were there because of the russians | Dec 14 18:54 |
| schestowitz | almost everyone from Comes exhibits has already left | Dec 14 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | the US survived for a while because of a perfect storm | Dec 14 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | Europe being bombed to a pulp | Dec 14 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | China torn by civil war and Japanese invasion | Dec 14 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | Japan decimated and occupied | Dec 14 18:54 |
| MinceR | it seemed to me that the US did pretty well until the end of the age of reason | Dec 14 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | and intellectuals getting asylum here from the Communists | Dec 14 18:55 |
| schestowitz | They don't do that anymore | Dec 14 18:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: Guardian: "The best way to get value from data is to give it away" http://t.co/gQPBhZqZ Analysis of the #EU http://p.ost.im/p/eU3HU2 | Dec 14 18:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 14 18:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 14 18:55 |
| schestowitz | Hardly anyway | Dec 14 18:55 |
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| DaemonFC | the fall of the Soviet Union was actually a bad thing for the US | Dec 14 18:55 |
| schestowitz | The US just equips people from other countries with knowledge and then sends em off | Dec 14 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | the more desirables that are trying to escape from oppression to here is an incredible windfall in our favor | Dec 14 18:56 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: why? | Dec 14 18:56 |
| schestowitz | The US almost went bankrupt | Dec 14 18:56 |
| schestowitz | It was lucky the Soviets got knackered first | Dec 14 18:56 |
| schestowitz | It also had to slaughter many people to fight away "communism" | Dec 14 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/ISO-IEC-MPEG-to-select-from-two-options-for-royalty-free-video-1392734.html | Dec 14 18:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ISO/IEC MPEG to select from two options for royalty-free video - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 41.05 KB | Dec 14 18:58 |
| DaemonFC | WebM has MPEG LA on the run | Dec 14 18:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Luís Amado defende referendo em Portugal - Expresso.pt - #PT quem nos dera que a hipocrisia matasse... http://goo.gl/98NRT | Dec 14 18:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] yes, but at what cost? this is simply an unnecessary move that causes huge problems | Dec 14 18:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Luís Amado defende referendo em Portugal - Expresso.pt .::. Size~: 183.01 KB | Dec 14 18:58 |
| schestowitz | ISO LOL | Dec 14 18:59 |
| schestowitz | Let it die with MSFT | Dec 14 18:59 |
| MinceR | agreed | Dec 14 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | by the end of 2012, all decoding patents on MP3 will have expired | Dec 14 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | and half of the MPEG 2 patent pool will have expired | Dec 14 19:00 |
| schestowitz | Licence and code are better than some rubberstamp FOR SALE | Dec 14 19:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Syria's torture machine http://gu.com/p/3443q | Dec 14 19:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks mystery Facebook killer project to beta soon http://t.co/xWcS5ckQ ; tweet #tokenplease #freebrad | Dec 14 19:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Syria's torture machine | World news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 267.88 KB | Dec 14 19:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 14 19:00 |
| schestowitz | BTW | Dec 14 19:00 |
| schestowitz | When MS corrupted ISO | Dec 14 19:00 |
| schestowitz | The IEC/ISO people in Switzerland (and Bryden too) used the MPEG LA thing as an excuse | Dec 14 19:01 |
| schestowitz | to say there were other controversial standards | Dec 14 19:01 |
| schestowitz | As if to say | Dec 14 19:01 |
| iophk | Part of that with ISO was to try discredit ISO along the way. | Dec 14 19:01 |
| schestowitz | "yes, we were corrupted before, so that's kind of okay, kk?" | Dec 14 19:01 |
| schestowitz | Alex Brown has been quiet for years now... he did his gig for the Vole | Dec 14 19:02 |
| iophk | Where is he now? | Dec 14 19:02 |
| schestowitz | Maybe they just refer some clients to him now | Dec 14 19:02 |
| schestowitz | He's somewhere around Oxford | Dec 14 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.jwz.org/gruntle/rbarip.html | Dec 14 19:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden | Dec 14 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | so this open source royalty free codec is going to be scraps from the MPEG-LA's table | Dec 14 19:03 |
| DaemonFC | which they couldn't assert patents on anymore anyway | Dec 14 19:03 |
| DaemonFC | and if you want the good stuff, you have to pay them' | Dec 14 19:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Under #SOPA, those researching the next Carrier IQ could be censored before they make their findings public https://eff.org/r.K6v | Dec 14 19:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Online piracy laws must preserve Web freedom - CNN.com .::. Size~: 43.01 KB | Dec 14 19:03 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Dec 14 19:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] First Release Of Open-Source Blu-Ray Library http://ur1.ca/6oxhq #bluray #linux | Dec 14 19:07 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] First Release Of Open-Source Blu-Ray Library .::. Size~: 16.73 KB | Dec 14 19:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] time to start "fixing" the princess bride | Dec 14 19:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] PressTV - US deploys #drones 'against Americans' - #usa #policestate http://ur1.ca/6oxkq | Dec 14 19:10 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/linux-mint-swap-banshee-affiliate-code-take-100-of-profits/ | Dec 14 19:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux Mint Swap Banshee Affiliate Code, Take 100% of Profits .::. Size~: 292.35 KB | Dec 14 19:13 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: that's old news | Dec 14 19:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New #Linux Powered Humanoid Robot http://ur1.ca/6oxoq #robotics | Dec 14 19:13 | |
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| schestowitz | yeah | Dec 14 19:13 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: also Clem replied in the comments explaining it | Dec 14 19:14 |
| schestowitz | I am catching up | Dec 14 19:14 |
| schestowitz | url? | Dec 14 19:14 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: on omgubuntu | Dec 14 19:14 |
| sebsebseb | on that link | Dec 14 19:14 |
| schestowitz | ah, needs JS | Dec 14 19:14 |
| schestowitz | no thanks | Dec 14 19:14 |
| schestowitz | disqus is disgusting | Dec 14 19:14 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: basically they want to get rid of anything that sys Canonical | Dec 14 19:14 |
| sebsebseb | so they have their own code | Dec 14 19:14 |
| schestowitz | enable JS to MERELY READ/VIEW | Dec 14 19:14 |
| sebsebseb | also it's not much money from this | Dec 14 19:14 |
| sebsebseb | and if Banshee/Gnome want to sahre with them, they would do 50% each | Dec 14 19:15 |
| sebsebseb | basicalley | Dec 14 19:15 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: anything in Mint that says Canonical/Ubuntu they would consider a bug | Dec 14 19:15 |
| cubezzz | lol, they can't compile firefox on windows on a 3gb machine | Dec 14 19:15 |
| cubezzz | I compiled the old icecat on a 312 meg box | Dec 14 19:17 |
| cubezzz | er, 320 meg rather | Dec 14 19:17 |
| cubezzz | too much browser bloat | Dec 14 19:17 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Dec 14 19:18 |
| schestowitz | ff | Dec 14 19:18 |
| schestowitz | fucki** fat | Dec 14 19:18 |
| schestowitz | I tried it on a box I had with just 256mb of ram | Dec 14 19:18 |
| schestowitz | it didn't go too well at the time, but icecat was also very young | Dec 14 19:18 |
| schestowitz | maybe new | Dec 14 19:18 |
| cubezzz | ./configure --disable-pango | Dec 14 19:19 |
| cubezzz | ;-) | Dec 14 19:19 |
| MinceR | and then enjoy aliased ugly fonts? :> | Dec 14 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.jwz.org/gruntle/toothbrush.html | Dec 14 19:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden | Dec 14 19:19 |
| MinceR | i realized pretty quickly that water stays in that part and started cleaning and slightly drying it after each use | Dec 14 19:20 |
| MinceR | still better than a non-motorized toothbrush | Dec 14 19:20 |
| schestowitz | I had a bad dream last night. I used the same brush that I clean the sink with to clean my teeth *accidentally*... or maybe I dreamt this the night before | Dec 14 19:22 |
| schestowitz | Dreams that affect taste of sense of taste are an interesting thing... like ones that make one drool or lose appetite | Dec 14 19:22 |
| *goblin-netbook (~goblin@94-193-188-104.zone7.bethere.co.uk) has joined #techrights | Dec 14 19:22 | |
| schestowitz | like goblin.. | Dec 14 19:22 |
| *goblin-netbook is now known as _goblin | Dec 14 19:22 | |
| *ChanServ gives channel operator status to _goblin | Dec 14 19:23 | |
| cubezzz | I'm not even going to try compiling ff for fc1 | Dec 14 19:23 |
| MinceR | http://www.jwz.org/gruntle/innuendo.html | Dec 14 19:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden | Dec 14 19:23 |
| schestowitz | which v? | Dec 14 19:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] neither pitivi nor openshot will be able to help me fix Princess Bride | Dec 14 19:23 | |
| cubezzz | the most modern I've built on fc1 is Icecat 2.0.0.11-g1 | Dec 14 19:23 |
| DaemonFC | there's nothing wrong with dollar store toothpaste, toothbrushes, and mouth wash | Dec 14 19:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] #Lawfulaccess legislation (aka spy bills) deceive Canadians into sacrificing privacy @michaelgeist https://eff.org/r.5Kw #privacy | Dec 14 19:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] Huh? I don't follow what you are trying to get across in context. | Dec 14 19:25 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 14 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | other than name brands convincing you that some asshole signed off on it | Dec 14 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Dec 14 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | I've had one minor cavity. | Dec 14 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | I'm 27 | Dec 14 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | my teeth are pretty much white | Dec 14 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | brand names are usually just a way to siphon more money for a product that's not much if any better | Dec 14 19:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] http://ur1.ca/6oy26 | Dec 14 19:27 | |
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| schestowitz | yeah | Dec 14 19:27 |
| schestowitz | but it depends | Dec 14 19:28 |
| schestowitz | Too cheap without known brand to stand up to can be bad | Dec 14 19:28 |
| schestowitz | days ago I used some Gillett disposables knowing they cannot be crap because they have a name to stand up to | Dec 14 19:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] http://ur1.ca/6oy47 | Dec 14 19:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is schestowitz from identi.ca with 69 dents! | Dec 14 19:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] http://ur1.ca/6oy4w | Dec 14 19:28 | |
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| schestowitz | Gillette would have to be better than some supermarket unbranded ones | Dec 14 19:28 |
| schestowitz | for toothpastes, the tricks are old | Dec 14 19:29 |
| schestowitz | !google colgate sues india | Dec 14 19:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Colgate sues Glaxo over toothpaste nurdle | Reuters | http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/07/29/us-colgate-glaxo-nurdle-idUSTRE66S41B20100729 | Dec 14 19:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Church & Dwight Sues Colgate Over Toothbrush Packaging - WSJ ... | http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704615504576172360509745644.html | Dec 14 19:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Sanofi, Facebook, Colgate: Intellectual Property - Bloomberg | http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-10-20/sanofi-facebook-colgate-vivendi-apple-hokie-intellectual-property.html | Dec 14 19:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Indlaw – Latest IPR News | http://ipr.indlaw.com/updates/news.aspx | Dec 14 19:29 |
| schestowitz | they can't distinguish themselves anymore | Dec 14 19:29 |
| schestowitz | Race to the bottom... any 10-blade razor yet? :-) | Dec 14 19:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] http://ur1.ca/6oy5l and there's more where that came from if you still have questions. | Dec 14 19:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @MarietjeD66 “@bendrath: #EU Council press desk told me an hour ago that #ACTA was NOT adopted today” >>never-ending saga | Dec 14 19:30 | |
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| schestowitz | The worst things are the placebos they sell now | Dec 14 19:30 |
| schestowitz | Making a whole "variety" of toothpastes | Dec 14 19:30 |
| schestowitz | Whitening, strengthening, soft, hard, etc,. | Dec 14 19:31 |
| MinceR | i'm sure my electric shaver has way more than 10 blades :> | Dec 14 19:31 |
| schestowitz | Making it seem like it's custom made and will do a damn | Dec 14 19:31 |
| schestowitz | I use crappy toothpastes for like 10 years now and I still have not a single tooth filling | Dec 14 19:31 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: they're crap | Dec 14 19:31 |
| schestowitz | trimmers to | Dec 14 19:31 |
| schestowitz | too | Dec 14 19:31 |
| schestowitz | I always use blades if I go out to something important, the good thing about dry shave is that I can do that while I read | Dec 14 19:32 |
| schestowitz | but they tend to leave some tiny hair morsels falling a bit and out of the blade compartments, so it's dry but not clean.. not close | Dec 14 19:33 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC is a shavoholic | Dec 14 19:33 |
| schestowitz | He's a bladeMAN | Dec 14 19:33 |
| schestowitz | !google I'm a scatman | Dec 14 19:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - I'm the Scatman - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DXNLDns41jBQ | Dec 14 19:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Scatman John - I'm A scatman - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DFE0XcdM22Yo | Dec 14 19:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - I'm the scatman - John Scatman - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DIjqHSSH5RYA%26feature%3Drelated | Dec 14 19:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Scatman John - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scatman_John | Dec 14 19:33 |
| MinceR | do razors work better? | Dec 14 19:33 |
| schestowitz | yeah, closer shave | Dec 14 19:33 |
| MinceR | also, do they work without cream/gel/foam? | Dec 14 19:33 |
| schestowitz | you can't do that with the buffers in the shavers... I have two philps ones and they need to be made safe, so the razors stay far from the skin no matter how they are adjected | Dec 14 19:34 |
| schestowitz | *adjusted | Dec 14 19:34 |
| schestowitz | Maybe if they could be modded ... :-) :-) | Dec 14 19:34 |
| MinceR | philips makes non-electric razors now? | Dec 14 19:34 |
| schestowitz | Not AFAIK | Dec 14 19:34 |
| schestowitz | Now there's an industry around forms too | Dec 14 19:35 |
| schestowitz | Gel form and stuff | Dec 14 19:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the problem mainstream politicians have, is that they defend a system widely seen as broken, rather than see it themselves & try to change | Dec 14 19:35 | |
| schestowitz | Trying to make it look more advanced and stuff... and Gillette went into this whole "cream industry too"... before or after the P&G thing... probably well before... I remember those as a child | Dec 14 19:35 |
| schestowitz | They also do deodorants... that thing that Ballmer doesn't get along with | Dec 14 19:36 |
| cubezzz | lol, Ballmer needs industrial strength deodorant | Dec 14 19:36 |
| MinceR | yes | Dec 14 19:36 |
| MinceR | napalm-based deodorant | Dec 14 19:37 |
| schestowitz | Putting Eric Schmidt and Steve Ballmer in the same room is as hard as putting deodorants and Ballmer's armpit a meter apart | Dec 14 19:37 |
| cubezzz | because you know, went you're screaming "developers developers developers" you need extra protection | Dec 14 19:37 |
| cubezzz | when | Dec 14 19:37 |
| MinceR | what is schmidt's weapon of choice? | Dec 14 19:37 |
| schestowitz | he's a wuss | Dec 14 19:37 |
| schestowitz | he won't fight | Dec 14 19:38 |
| MinceR | that won't work on ballmer :> | Dec 14 19:38 |
| MinceR | he'd be chaired quickly | Dec 14 19:38 |
| schestowitz | Ballmer plays dirty... blows below the belt, biting (beware that tongue! No matter what you do), furniture... | Dec 14 19:38 |
| koolhead17 | :P | Dec 14 19:39 |
| koolhead17 | schestowitz hehe | Dec 14 19:39 |
| koolhead17 | _goblin: supp | Dec 14 19:39 |
| schestowitz | Ballmer looks like he has down syndrome | Dec 14 19:39 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WklYJvpK-Tk | Dec 14 19:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Basket Ball Play with Steve Ballmer - By mrama - YouTube .::. Size~: 115.22 KB | Dec 14 19:40 |
| schestowitz | Ballmer: "my wife wanted me to do yoga" | Dec 14 19:41 |
| schestowitz | He couldn't do it | Dec 14 19:41 |
| schestowitz | ~8:15 | Dec 14 19:41 |
| schestowitz | "I think about making money for Microsoft" | Dec 14 19:41 |
| schestowitz | It's like watching Uncle Fester trying to play bball | Dec 14 19:43 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGge_tHj-0Q | Dec 14 19:43 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] US in #Iraq: Soldiers out; #Blackwater in? — RT - #stateterrorism #usa http://goo.gl/2RrAv | Dec 14 19:47 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: US in Iraq: Soldiers out; Blackwater in? — RT .::. Size~: 45.21 KB | Dec 14 19:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] According to reports, Google and allies have begun complaining about the racketeering from Microsoft's Uncle Fester lookalike CEO & Horacio | Dec 14 19:48 | |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/fcassia/status/147038956301721600?iid=am-1618412813238917939942752&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208 | Dec 14 19:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @fcassia: FUD sales speech "Classic Ethernet switches won´t support the cloud" http://t.co/G1PslRQF #WTF #cloud #fog #fogcomputing cc/@schestowitz | Dec 14 19:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 14 19:50 |
| schestowitz | "This discredits copyright legislation so comprehensively and exposes its fraudulent nature well eniough to be a good thing in the long run. " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1039044 | Dec 14 19:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 14 19:51 |
| *iophk has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | Dec 14 19:51 | |
| schestowitz | http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2011/12/apple-may-be-using-patent-troll-to-do-its-legal-dirty-work.ars | Dec 14 19:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Apple may be using patent troll to do its legal dirty work .::. Size~: 35.19 KB | Dec 14 19:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is Android the Future of Smartphones? http://ur1.ca/6oyyf #java #linux may benefit | Dec 14 19:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Android vs Apple War: Will Openness Make the Difference? | TechNonStop .::. Size~: 45 KB | Dec 14 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.jwz.org/gruntle/license.html | Dec 14 19:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden | Dec 14 19:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Proprietary *anti)features http://ur1.ca/6oz1j... http://b1t.it/abYT | Dec 14 19:58 | |
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| schestowitz | rms in spanish https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1040116 | Dec 14 19:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 14 19:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Not terribly, but it's an interesting data point. I'll take a look. | Dec 14 20:00 | |
| *eebrah (~Ibrahim_K@41.215.224.89) has joined #techrights | Dec 14 20:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] absolutely; we need to contact MEPs now... | Dec 14 20:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] indeed | Dec 14 20:03 | |
| schestowitz | wb, eebrah | Dec 14 20:06 |
| eebrah | hey schestowitz, glad to be back | Dec 14 20:06 |
| schestowitz | njema wrote a lot today | Dec 14 20:06 |
| eebrah | he did? did not pick up much on that | Dec 14 20:07 |
| eebrah | been off line most of the day | Dec 14 20:07 |
| schestowitz | several hours ago, he was shooting like 30 from the hip | Dec 14 20:07 |
| schestowitz | how's the weather? | Dec 14 20:07 |
| eebrah | good. | Dec 14 20:08 |
| eebrah | by that I mean hot and dry | Dec 14 20:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] XFCE Window Manager http://ur1.ca/6oze7 #xfce | Dec 14 20:08 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?65591-Adblock-Plus-betraying-its-users-with-so-called-Acceptable-Ads&p=242128#post242128 | Dec 14 20:10 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Video: US Presidential candidate Ron Paul on WikiLeaks http://t.co/GD7V9JZ3 #freebrad | Dec 14 20:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joshuagay/@joshuagay] Categories galore! Just updated LibreOffice in the Free Software Directory directory.fsf.org/wiki/LibreOffice !fsf !gnu | Dec 14 20:12 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 14 20:12 |
| schestowitz | eebrah: it's terrible here | Dec 14 20:12 |
| schestowitz | wind, cold, damp | Dec 14 20:12 |
| schestowitz | my skin is all dried up | Dec 14 20:12 |
| eebrah | december. means it's cold right | Dec 14 20:13 |
| eebrah | ? | Dec 14 20:13 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, in the northern hemisphere | Dec 14 20:13 |
| schestowitz | Not sure what happens exactly in India, middle of Africa,Brazil... | Dec 14 20:14 |
| eebrah | I hope it gets better, not sure it can though with your seasons and all | Dec 14 20:14 |
| eebrah | does snow qualify as good or bad weather? | Dec 14 20:14 |
| schestowitz | it means I stay more at home and blog | Dec 14 20:14 |
| schestowitz | bad probably, unless you ski | Dec 14 20:14 |
| schestowitz | no practical benefit to it | Dec 14 20:15 |
| sebsebseb | yeah not nice weather here either | Dec 14 20:15 |
| sebsebseb | really | Dec 14 20:15 |
| eebrah | hey sebsebseb! | Dec 14 20:15 |
| eebrah | okay. Round here get hot dry and dusty | Dec 14 20:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] If you're in the U.S. and haven't yet called your Rep, please call now. You can help stop #SOPA - https://eff.org/sopacall | Dec 14 20:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @glynmoody #ACTA Adopted By EU Governments, Now in EU Parliament's Hands - http://bit.ly/s8MoNx so much for "democracy"... | Dec 14 20:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @eff #Lawfulaccess legislation (aka spy bills) deceive Canadians into sacrificing privacy @michaelgeist https://eff.org/r.5Kw #privacy | Dec 14 20:17 | |
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| eebrah | we don't have seasons but twice a year we get "significant" amounts of rain, we call that the rainy seasons | Dec 14 20:17 |
| schestowitz | like moonsoon in se asia? | Dec 14 20:19 |
| schestowitz | *monsoon | Dec 14 20:19 |
| eebrah | yup | Dec 14 20:19 |
| eebrah | think they might actually be related | Dec 14 20:20 |
| schestowitz | Clothing here is not enough to keep warm | Dec 14 20:20 |
| eebrah | we are on the east coast, the indian ocean | Dec 14 20:20 |
| schestowitz | we need to burn wood/oil or convert energies of flows | Dec 14 20:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Dog guards forgotten baby overnight — RT http://goo.gl/OLauC | Dec 14 20:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #PearOS 3.0 Screenshot Tour http://ur1.ca/6ozpq pears are apples done right. #linux | Dec 14 20:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @eff If you're in the U.S. and haven't yet called your Rep, please call now. You can help stop #SOPA - https://eff.org/sopacall | Dec 14 20:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @eff Under #SOPA, those researching the next Carrier IQ could be censored before they make their findings public https://eff.org/r.K6v | Dec 14 20:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Video: US Presidential candidate Ron Paul on WikiLeaks http://t.co/GD7V9JZ3 | Dec 14 20:20 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 14 20:20 |
| schestowitz | Last winter I did an experiment and checked if I can do the winter without switching on any of the heaters | Dec 14 20:20 |
| schestowitz | But humans are not meant to live here, not without burning stuff | Dec 14 20:21 |
| schestowitz | No wonder we all used to live near the equator | Dec 14 20:21 |
| eebrah | yeah, Whenever I find myself complaining that 15 Degrees C is cold, I remind myself that people in some parts of the world get sub-zero | Dec 14 20:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] Ah I was just using the same word that another poster had begun with. What general term do you prefer. Author is perhaps not general enough. | Dec 14 20:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Ron Paul furious over indefinite detention act — RT - #ronpaul #ndaa http://goo.gl/sWdRg | Dec 14 20:22 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1040212 "Very nice way of saying it ;)" | Dec 14 20:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 14 20:22 |
| schestowitz | it's going under zero tonight | Dec 14 20:22 |
| eebrah | I feel sorry for anyone whose homeless over there or too poor to afford heating | Dec 14 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?65591-Adblock-Plus-betraying-its-users-with-so-called-Acceptable-Ads&p=242132#post242132 | Dec 14 20:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Adblock Plus betraying its users with so-called Acceptable Ads - Page 7 .::. Size~: 35.75 KB | Dec 14 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | "Anti-adblock site owners sound more like the RIAA than people. " | Dec 14 20:24 |
| eebrah | nature can be un-forgiving | Dec 14 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Dec 14 20:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: fix his kernel problem. Suggested he pull the #florida card and insert an #alabama card instead | Dec 14 20:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux spreads on cheap tablets http://is.gd/5VJqvD http://is.gd/PIu5Am http://is.gd/Rt8lVo #android | Dec 14 20:27 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Tegra-based Android tablet ships for $230 - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 55.6 KB | Dec 14 20:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: $99, MIPS-powered tablet ships with Android 4.0 on board - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 62.54 KB | Dec 14 20:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: $99 TouchPad Firesale Round Two Begins Dec. 11th | Featured, News |webOSroundup .::. Size~: 74.75 KB | Dec 14 20:27 |
| eebrah | schestowitz: I particularly am looking forward to the Ainovo Novo7 [ the MIPS tab ] | Dec 14 20:29 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1040212 "Or just use Chromium, the open source web browser project from which Google Chrome draws its source code. One thing I don't get is the buzz about "Signing in to Chrome", since is something I've been able to do since forever on Chrome, at least from what they explain about bookmarks, web apps and preferences. It's cool it stays that way even you are using Chrome or Chromium." | Dec 14 20:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 14 20:32 |
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| beenz | hi | Dec 14 20:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @robmyers: "The sun just came out, I can't believe it" - http://is.gd/CNsHF9 #RayPride | Dec 14 20:35 | |
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| beenz | anyone know if there is goin to be a new techbytes soon? | Dec 14 20:35 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/NavinChauhan/status/147044534906396672?iid=am-8072429913238931239891913&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208 | Dec 14 20:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @NavinChauhan: @schestowitz i think Android is the future of smartphones personally ... | Dec 14 20:36 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1040212 "Or just use Firefox/Iceweasel, which does exactly the same if not more and is 100% Free Libre and Open Source Software (FLOSS) ;)" | Dec 14 20:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 14 20:37 |
| schestowitz | hi beenz | Dec 14 20:37 |
| schestowitz | yeah, waiting for _goblin to find time for it mostly | Dec 14 20:37 |
| beenz | yo schestowitz | Dec 14 20:37 |
| beenz | why wait for goblin? | Dec 14 20:37 |
| schestowitz | very busy at work and with 2 kids now | Dec 14 20:38 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: ping | Dec 14 20:38 |
| beenz | get a guest co host! we need more episodez | Dec 14 20:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Yes! http://ur1.ca/6p07l | Dec 14 20:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Gijs Hillenius - Google+ - Several public administrations in Greece are considering to… .::. Size~: 45.96 KB | Dec 14 20:38 |
| beenz | give us moar | Dec 14 20:39 |
| beenz | lol | Dec 14 20:39 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/fcassia/status/147051341787824128?iid=am-212786989413238947469358531&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208 | Dec 14 20:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @fcassia: @schestowitz I would still prefer a more open WebOS or pre Linux (ubuntu) tablet rather than Android... | Dec 14 20:39 |
| schestowitz | beenz: _goblin is the key host | Dec 14 20:39 |
| schestowitz | and a friend, too | Dec 14 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | How much for a Wendy, Wendy? :) | Dec 14 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | Dawn is home | Dec 14 20:40 |
| schestowitz | Shaving your cat? | Dec 14 20:41 |
| beenz | you know you should get RMS to co host with you | Dec 14 20:41 |
| beenz | that would be awesome | Dec 14 20:41 |
| schestowitz | he agreed to be a guest | Dec 14 20:41 |
| beenz | as a guest | Dec 14 20:41 |
| schestowitz | we got SIP sorted out | Dec 14 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | there's a new maintenance man for her to shave | Dec 14 20:41 |
| schestowitz | Thanks for reminding me | Dec 14 20:41 |
| beenz | i dont think he would like to be a guest when goblin is around | Dec 14 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | this should draw her off until he runs screaming | Dec 14 20:41 |
| beenz | tbh | Dec 14 20:41 |
| beenz | cause goblin sometimes says good stuff about appil | Dec 14 20:41 |
| schestowitz | hmmm... I may check up on it soon... I totally forgot that | Dec 14 20:42 |
| beenz | ie how easy it is for his wife to use | Dec 14 20:42 |
| schestowitz | He was on Russia Today this month | Dec 14 20:42 |
| beenz | bad publicity | Dec 14 20:42 |
| beenz | sick shit yo | Dec 14 20:42 |
| beenz | russia pwns | Dec 14 20:42 |
| schestowitz | no, RMS is not this intolerant | Dec 14 20:42 |
| schestowitz | In Soviet Russia, Stallman makes YOU feel abnormal | Dec 14 20:43 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/86759801 | Dec 14 20:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Monday, 12-Dec-11 23:58:08 UTC - Identi.ca: @Schestowitz Agreed on http://ur1.ca/6n4n5 on OS: "I recommend #Debian GNU/ #Linux because it gives the greatest flexibility in an OS." | Dec 14 20:44 |
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| beenz | lol | Dec 14 20:44 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/86217804 | Dec 14 20:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @tekk's status on Sunday, 04-Dec-11 21:10:52 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz actually you have a point there, any self-respecting ff user will have adblock plus, wich even prevents CONNECTIONS to ads | Dec 14 20:44 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/86156826 | Dec 14 20:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Saturday, 03-Dec-11 16:10:09 UTC - Identi.ca: I asked as I indexed techrights for YaCy. It ended with 19.5K. P.S. "but I only posted over 15k blog posts there" :-) | Dec 14 20:44 |
| beenz | does this channel have people all the time? | Dec 14 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | I'm whistling "Windy" now | Dec 14 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | every time I think of Dawn I think of that Breaking Bad scene with the prostitute, Wendy | Dec 14 20:45 |
| beenz | hey daemonfc | Dec 14 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgoGrWBhBVE | Dec 14 20:45 |
| schestowitz | We need webos as a loadable image for phones | Dec 14 20:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Wendy Breaking Bad Intro - YouTube .::. Size~: 134.46 KB | Dec 14 20:45 |
| schestowitz | webos would also provide me with an escape route out of Palm OS, or so I used to hope | Dec 14 20:45 |
| schestowitz | Android has all the inertia now | Dec 14 20:45 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jQueryJavaBot/status/147043338783170560 | Dec 14 20:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @jQueryJavaBot: RT @schestowitz Is Android the Future of Smartphones? http://t.co/ZHGUyzFM #java #linux may benefit | Dec 14 20:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 14 20:45 |
| beenz | you can't compete with the green man | Dec 14 20:46 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/147038956301721600 | Dec 14 20:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @fcassia: FUD sales speech "Classic Ethernet switches won´t support the cloud" http://t.co/G1PslRQF #WTF #cloud #fog #fogcomputing cc/@schestowitz | Dec 14 20:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 14 20:46 |
| schestowitz | beenz: yes, it's 24/7, since 2008 | Dec 14 20:46 |
| MinceR | i prefer MeeGo and Android to webOS :> | Dec 14 20:46 |
| beenz | except where i work of course | Dec 14 20:46 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: walmart twitter spam? https://twitter.com/KatharinaBrooke/status/146870776484737024 | Dec 14 20:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @KatharinaBrooke: @schestowitz I just received a free $1000 Walmart Gift Card! Try to get your own as well: @DannieAmuso6475 | Dec 14 20:46 |
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| beenz | we cant sell android | Dec 14 20:47 |
| beenz | goes against our contract | Dec 14 20:47 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/146550305012727809 | Dec 14 20:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @fcassia: @schestowitz The WhackypediaPolice is out of control http://t.co/gwT1joUi "This article has been nominated to be checked for its neutrality" | Dec 14 20:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 14 20:47 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MarcosLeonetti/status/143347050514350080 | Dec 14 20:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @MarcosLeonetti: RT: @fcassia WP: In role reversal, IMF comes "hat in hand" to LatAm cc/@pablotigani @schestowitz @glynmoody @marcosleonetti | Dec 14 20:47 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/143036237232619520 | Dec 14 20:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @fcassia: PC Mag re-writing history. They claim IE6 won market share due to features, not monopoly/bundling http://t.co/O0FD2pzM cc/@schestowitz | Dec 14 20:48 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/143108988148514816 | Dec 14 20:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 14 20:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @fcassia: Cloud Computing: will the hype ever finish? | Enterprise CIO Forum http://t.co/wdVGA7qX cc/@schestowitz | Dec 14 20:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently | Dec 14 20:48 |
| schestowitz | beenz: what contract? | Dec 14 20:48 |
| schestowitz | Jobstract? | Dec 14 20:49 |
| beenz | schestowitz - yeah at my job | Dec 14 20:49 |
| schestowitz | Jobs? | Dec 14 20:49 |
| *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Smithers! Release the hounds....and the robotic Richard Simmons! :)) | Dec 14 20:49 | |
| schestowitz | That man in the statue which replaces Stalin in Hungary? | Dec 14 20:49 |
| schestowitz | http://www.taiwannews.com.tw/etn/news_content.php?id=1784889 | Dec 14 20:50 |
| beenz | we can only sell pcs with windows and the contract had sneaky language that includes tablets | Dec 14 20:50 |
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| schestowitz | beenz: can you leak this to techrights? | Dec 14 20:50 |
| beenz | we tried selling ipads and samsung galaxy tabs and microsoft literally sent their sales rep after us | Dec 14 20:50 |
| beenz | the one who signed us the contracted | Dec 14 20:50 |
| beenz | the contract? | Dec 14 20:51 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1040212 "Why else would Google want a different browser..... proprietary and embedded spying." | Dec 14 20:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 14 20:51 |
| beenz | i would have to "borrow" it and scan it | Dec 14 20:51 |
| schestowitz | "Well I must admit if you're using various Google services, Chrom* is your "friend" :P" | Dec 14 20:51 |
| schestowitz | "I like my fast browser, web apps, extensions and preferences that I share between the various OS I "work", plus changing between Chrome, Canary and Chromium. Firefox is great for its openness yes and I love it and the company, but Chrome/Chromium just works better for me, specially since I'm deeply integrated in almost all G-services. But I never completely stop using Mozilla products, and I also like to run Opera from time to time | Dec 14 20:51 |
| schestowitz | haha." | Dec 14 20:51 |
| schestowitz | beenz: that would help address the systemic problem | Dec 14 20:51 |
| schestowitz | we got some valuable leaks about this type of abuse in one continent | Dec 14 20:52 |
| schestowitz | and it make some headlines | Dec 14 20:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Carrier IQ Now the Subject of a Federal Investigation from !Android Phone Fans by Kevin Krause http://ow.ly/7ZDIv | Dec 14 20:52 | |
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| beenz | what country? | Dec 14 20:52 |
| beenz | i have to be careful i might have to send it to you from a secure email account | Dec 14 20:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux in toy stores http://ur1.ca/6p0lk #ToysAreUX | Dec 14 20:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Kids' Android tablet a hit at Toysrus.com - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 57.01 KB | Dec 14 20:53 |
| schestowitz | beenz: can't say which country | Dec 14 20:54 |
| schestowitz | must protest the sources | Dec 14 20:54 |
| beenz | probably north america too | Dec 14 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9222675/Researchers_accuse_Google_of_plotting_to_undercut_Firefox?taxonomyId=85 | Dec 14 20:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Researchers accuse Google of plotting to undercut Firefox - Computerworld .::. Size~: 138.4 KB | Dec 14 20:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Security Flaw In Windows Phone: Signs of Things to Come? - #crashandburn #wp7 http://goo.gl/Y5HQo | Dec 14 20:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Free-Libre Open Source Software as a Public Policy Choice http://ur1.ca/6p0nz #freedom | Dec 14 20:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Android/Linux Still Accelerating http://ur1.ca/6p0o2 a bllion in 3 years? #linux | Dec 14 20:57 | |
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| DaemonFC | "This is a vendor-funded paper, and in these cases, the vendor is going to drive the methodology [of the testing], which appears to be the case here," said Vikram Phatak, the chief technology officer of NSS Labs, in an interview today. | Dec 14 20:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[stumbles/@stumbles] Last Melbourne Free Software gathering for the year tonight. Don't miss it! http://www.freesoftware.asn.au/melb/ #freesoftware | Dec 14 20:58 | |
| DaemonFC | When reminded that NSS Labs has conducted vendor-funded browser security research in the past -- Microsoft sponsored several NSS tests on anti-malware blocking technologies -- Phatak replied, "There's a reason why we don't do that anymore." | Dec 14 20:58 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Diplomat warns of Clear and present danger to Assange | Eurekastreet http://t.co/MJCqkQ1c | Dec 14 21:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 14 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | Google's attacks on Mozilla will probably drive Mozilla to ask for Bing to sponsor them in Google's old place | Dec 14 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think Google really wants to go there | Dec 14 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | "It appears Google has purposefully withheld important malware protection from its Safe Browsing feed coinciding with its break from Firefox and release of the Google-funded report by Accuvant," NSS Labs wrote in a document published Tuesday (download PDF). This episode could indicate a more aggressive direction for Google." | Dec 14 21:02 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1040212 "Hahaha, yeah, I got that right ;-D" | Dec 14 21:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 14 21:03 |
| schestowitz | I use Konqueror and Rekonq as my key browsers and Firefox just for extensions and stubborn stuff (e.g. HTTP header sniffers). Chromium is just for debugging/testing. | Dec 14 21:04 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1036418 | Dec 14 21:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 14 21:07 |
| eebrah | and my connection is back! *proceeds to dance* | Dec 14 21:07 |
| beenz | diaspora is the best | Dec 14 21:07 |
| beenz | you can set up your own and link them together | Dec 14 21:08 |
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| schestowitz | I can envision the dialogue on the O'Reilly "No Spin" zone at "Fox 'Fair and Balanced' News" - something like, "we don't know if this man provoked the police, and hey, it's just a 'food ingredient'." | Dec 14 21:09 |
| schestowitz | beenz: yeah | Dec 14 21:09 |
| schestowitz | maybe will set up a techrights pod at some stage when they exist beta | Dec 14 21:09 |
| schestowitz | pods can have stuff exported | Dec 14 21:09 |
| schestowitz | but not imported yet | Dec 14 21:10 |
| beenz | much better than g+ | Dec 14 21:11 |
| beenz | google hates not being able to track you | Dec 14 21:12 |
| beenz | the gov't probably paid them a lot to setup G+ | Dec 14 21:13 |
| beenz | not a coincidence that microsoft was mulling over a social network too | Dec 14 21:13 |
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| beenz | for O'Reilly - dead babies are a food incredient | Dec 14 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | no | Dec 14 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | they'r ethe main course | Dec 14 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | don't abort your fetuses, feed them to Bill ORLY | Dec 14 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Dec 14 21:16 |
| beenz | he slurps those mofos down like christopher reeves | Dec 14 21:16 |
| schestowitz | <beenz> for O'Reilly - dead babies are a food incredient | Dec 14 21:17 |
| schestowitz | or anti-'aging' cream | Dec 14 21:17 |
| beenz | Limbaugh has a dead baby salt shaker and spinkles them as a spice on his much larger main course | Dec 14 21:17 |
| beenz | you can't age | Dec 14 21:17 |
| beenz | time doesn't exist | Dec 14 21:17 |
| schestowitz | your cells don't replicate well | Dec 14 21:18 |
| schestowitz | they say vegetables can reduce the flawed division | Dec 14 21:18 |
| schestowitz | so we rot within ourselves | Dec 14 21:18 |
| *XFaCE gives voice to sebsebseb | Dec 14 21:18 | |
| *XFaCE gives voice to DaemonFC | Dec 14 21:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The #CrunchPad is Proof the #iPad was Obvious - #mobile #patents #apple #dirtytricks http://goo.gl/5NTTy | Dec 14 21:20 | |
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| beenz | vegetables are smarter than people in theory | Dec 14 21:27 |
| schestowitz | vegetables don't make up "gods" | Dec 14 21:28 |
| beenz | they use a quantum process for chloraphyll distribution | Dec 14 21:28 |
| schestowitz | That makes them closer to infallible than us | Dec 14 21:28 |
| beenz | imagine if the human brain did that with neurons | Dec 14 21:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 14/12/2011: Pear OS 3.0, $99 Linux Tablets http://ur1.ca/6p1hb #techrights | Dec 14 21:28 | |
| beenz | boom! | Dec 14 21:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Links 14/12/2011: Pear OS 3.0, $99 Linux Tablets | Techrights .::. Size~: 109.8 KB | Dec 14 21:28 |
| schestowitz | We are the first animal to be advanced enough to be delusional and poison ourselves with drugs by choice | Dec 14 21:28 |
| beenz | yeah and the only animal to overpopulate its habitat and have the ability to avoid the natural cleansing that normally occurs | Dec 14 21:29 |
| schestowitz | two weeks ago I explained to someone tha the tree he obsessed over was his relative | Dec 14 21:29 |
| schestowitz | He didn't buy it | Dec 14 21:29 |
| schestowitz | I explained the evolutionary ancestry and the tree being his distant cousin | Dec 14 21:30 |
| beenz | he probably thinks the earth is 6000 years old *snicker* | Dec 14 21:30 |
| schestowitz | They find it harder to fathom than some dude with a magic wand | Dec 14 21:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Rally and donate for Bradley Manning! 5 day pre-trial starts on Dec 16, near Washington DC http://t.co/3eYtR2bv | Dec 14 21:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 14 21:30 |
| schestowitz | beenz: a bit more than that :-) | Dec 14 21:30 |
| beenz | is he a climate change denier? | Dec 14 21:30 |
| schestowitz | and then there's the women who bring up star signs | Dec 14 21:31 |
| beenz | oh gawd | Dec 14 21:31 |
| beenz | astrology | Dec 14 21:31 |
| schestowitz | on Saturday I made out with one who obsessed over religious figures | Dec 14 21:31 |
| schestowitz | and I found a way not to ruin it | Dec 14 21:31 |
| beenz | on the plus side, if you study and know what you're talking bout | Dec 14 21:31 |
| schestowitz | I call it "placebo treatment" | Dec 14 21:31 |
| beenz | its easy to get laid | Dec 14 21:31 |
| schestowitz | If it makes them feel better, fine, but it doesn't validate it | Dec 14 21:31 |
| schestowitz | Placebo | Dec 14 21:32 |
| schestowitz | That's all that is | Dec 14 21:32 |
| beenz | yeah | Dec 14 21:32 |
| beenz | i believe its good for getting laid | Dec 14 21:32 |
| schestowitz | No, I didn't play that game | Dec 14 21:32 |
| schestowitz | I said it was historically and culturally interesting... and that these are metaphors | Dec 14 21:32 |
| beenz | if ii find out the girls star sign before she asks, i can tell her im one that is a perfect match with her sign | Dec 14 21:33 |
| schestowitz | hehe | Dec 14 21:33 |
| schestowitz | I have more integrity than that | Dec 14 21:33 |
| beenz | integrity? we're just mammals | Dec 14 21:33 |
| schestowitz | The last 3 girls I dated were all into star signs and asked about it | Dec 14 21:33 |
| schestowitz | I made a face... | Dec 14 21:33 |
| beenz | you cant make a disapproving face | Dec 14 21:34 |
| beenz | you wont get laid | Dec 14 21:34 |
| _Goblin | human nature though to try to explain and put cause to every facet of life. | Dec 14 21:34 |
| _Goblin | oh and hi | Dec 14 21:34 |
| beenz | its one of those bullshit female things you gotta let slide | Dec 14 21:34 |
| schestowitz | But didn't lecture about what motions of stars mean or do not mean... and gravity of two people compared to distant planets... and so on and so forth | Dec 14 21:34 |
| schestowitz | It's very conflicting actually | Dec 14 21:34 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: hi | Dec 14 21:34 |
| beenz | hi goblin | Dec 14 21:35 |
| _Goblin | Im a leo btw | Dec 14 21:35 |
| _Goblin | is that good? | Dec 14 21:35 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: yeah, sometimes logic is treated like a flaw | Dec 14 21:35 |
| schestowitz | As if spirituality is somehow better than an explanation, and that too is something which I think characterises the PR industry, proprietary s/w etc. | Dec 14 21:35 |
| schestowitz | I value truth more than something like love or money | Dec 14 21:36 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: depends on the year | Dec 14 21:36 |
| schestowitz | For instance | Dec 14 21:36 |
| schestowitz | If you're born around the same time as another person you might have similar influences | Dec 14 21:36 |
| _Goblin | ah. | Dec 14 21:36 |
| schestowitz | But the cycles of months are universally meaningless | Dec 14 21:36 |
| schestowitz | And inon-dentical twins born seconds apart would have identical destinies based on the 'logic' of astro'logy' | Dec 14 21:37 |
| _Goblin | theres many things that are universally meaningless...they still have a place in our reality | Dec 14 21:37 |
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| _Goblin | oh no..... | Dec 14 21:37 |
| _Goblin | please | Dec 14 21:37 |
| _Goblin | don't start spliting words.... | Dec 14 21:38 |
| _Goblin | astro'logy - sounds like a certain person there.... | Dec 14 21:38 |
| schestowitz | but there is a problem IMHO | Dec 14 21:38 |
| schestowitz | When people actually manage their life based on dice throws | Dec 14 21:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: whats the difference? | Dec 14 21:38 |
| schestowitz | And horoscopes that are just a random trick and are craftfully written to deceive | Dec 14 21:38 |
| _Goblin | well believe in multiple universes and the dice is pretty unrandom since everything is played out..... | Dec 14 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?65591-Adblock-Plus-betraying-its-users-with-so-called-Acceptable-Ads&p=242148#post242148 | Dec 14 21:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Adblock Plus betraying its users with so-called Acceptable Ads - Page 7 .::. Size~: 57.76 KB | Dec 14 21:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | dice throws != horoscopes | Dec 14 21:39 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: right, but that does not validate the ancient witchcraft-like astrology | Dec 14 21:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | also | Dec 14 21:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | LOL | Dec 14 21:39 |
| _Goblin | you haven't read the ones in the sun newspaper Diablo-D3 | Dec 14 21:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | poeple think adblock plus is a betrayal | Dec 14 21:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | I wonder how many people realize _its optional_ | Dec 14 21:39 |
| _Goblin | randomness and dice throws seems very much the way they are written. | Dec 14 21:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | its a second list of ad providers that promise to not make annoying ads | Dec 14 21:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | if you dont want to view those either, turn them off | Dec 14 21:39 |
| _Goblin | never been bothered by ads. | Dec 14 21:40 |
| _Goblin | never bother with ads | Dec 14 21:40 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Dec 14 21:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Guardian forced to retract News of the World Milly Dowler story. Same journalists that smeared Assange+WikiLeaks http://t.co/D6Dn52rg | Dec 14 21:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 14 21:40 |
| schestowitz | Dismissing quacks, in any case, should not be treated as a weaknesses in society, and I think therein lies my worry | Dec 14 21:41 |
| schestowitz | In Romania there are witch things going on too | Dec 14 21:41 |
| schestowitz | At least nobody gets burned alive | Dec 14 21:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | _Goblin: well like | Dec 14 21:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | google ads arent so bad | Dec 14 21:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | they're just text | Dec 14 21:41 |
| _Goblin | what like a hogwarty witch or a wizard of oz one? | Dec 14 21:41 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: not always | Dec 14 21:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | its the LOL YOU WON LOTS OF MONEY CLICK HERE BLINK BLINK BLINK ads that are the problem | Dec 14 21:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | if those never existed, I doubt ad blocking would | Dec 14 21:41 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes there are visual banner ads, it's an option for advertisers | Dec 14 21:41 |
| _Goblin | Diablo-D3: might be the sites you are visiting. | Dec 14 21:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @suhaib No tea No work | Dec 14 21:42 | |
| Diablo-D3 | _Goblin: thats the thing | Dec 14 21:42 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: no, not in fiction | Dec 14 21:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | its not | Dec 14 21:42 |
| _Goblin | Diablo-D3: I can't say Ive ever been overly bothered or offended by any add. | Dec 14 21:42 |
| _Goblin | *ad | Dec 14 21:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | like, Ive seen pretty shitty ads on rather normal websites | Dec 14 21:42 |
| schestowitz | Claims are made that can draw people into quacks rather than real GPs that can save one's life | Dec 14 21:42 |
| _Goblin | Diablo-D3: I must be lucky then. | Dec 14 21:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | the problem now is a lot of websites are setting up ad view paywalls | Dec 14 21:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | ie, it detects if abp is running, and then puts up a wall telling you to turn it off so you can view the content | Dec 14 21:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | what those websites dont get is I just dont view the content | Dec 14 21:43 |
| _Goblin | condition of entry | Dec 14 21:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | I click the next link on google search instead | Dec 14 21:43 |
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| beenz | i find all ads are offensive | Dec 14 21:45 |
| _Goblin | then the net must be a very distressing place for you. | Dec 14 21:45 |
| beenz | all the adblock thing did was cause me to have another step to finish installation | Dec 14 21:45 |
| _Goblin | BBS? | Dec 14 21:45 |
| beenz | distressing? no | Dec 14 21:46 |
| _Goblin | can't remember a popup when I dialed into Dawnraid. | Dec 14 21:46 |
| beenz | ive seen ads on bbs's | Dec 14 21:46 |
| _Goblin | that is rotten luck | Dec 14 21:46 |
| beenz | they were owned by the sysop | Dec 14 21:46 |
| beenz | advertising premium accounts | Dec 14 21:47 |
| _Goblin | ah one of those BBS... | Dec 14 21:47 |
| beenz | yeah | Dec 14 21:47 |
| _Goblin | no.... I didn't dial into those ones.... | Dec 14 21:47 |
| _Goblin | happier computing times.... | Dec 14 21:47 |
| beenz | pay monthly and you'll get an extra few hours a day | Dec 14 21:47 |
| _Goblin | COMPUSERVE!!! - - Sort of.... Remember that? | Dec 14 21:48 |
| _Goblin | great stuff..... | Dec 14 21:48 |
| beenz | thank god for the internet | Dec 14 21:48 |
| beenz | unlimited time | Dec 14 21:48 |
| beenz | my kids dont believe me when i say we were metered that way | Dec 14 21:48 |
| _Goblin | and "unlimited" bandwidth (as long as you don't read the small print) | Dec 14 21:48 |
| _Goblin | gotta love the "fair use" policy | Dec 14 21:48 |
| beenz | thats the sneaky thing goblin | Dec 14 21:49 |
| _Goblin | so its unlimited up to the fair use limit.... | Dec 14 21:49 |
| _Goblin | I had that debate once with a provider.... | Dec 14 21:49 |
| beenz | they still use 'unlimited' to mean time when selling broadband | Dec 14 21:49 |
| _Goblin | is it unlimited? | Dec 14 21:49 |
| _Goblin | yes | Dec 14 21:49 |
| beenz | nobody sells "unlimited bandwidth" | Dec 14 21:49 |
| _Goblin | is there a fair use policy? | Dec 14 21:49 |
| _Goblin | yes | Dec 14 21:49 |
| _Goblin | what is it? | Dec 14 21:49 |
| _Goblin | 25gig a month.... | Dec 14 21:49 |
| _Goblin | but you said its unlimited? | Dec 14 21:49 |
| beenz | its time online | Dec 14 21:49 |
| _Goblin | yes, unlimited to 25gig | Dec 14 21:50 |
| beenz | unlimited as in you can browse 24/7 | Dec 14 21:50 |
| _Goblin | lol.... | Dec 14 21:50 |
| _Goblin | you weren't that guy were you? | Dec 14 21:50 |
| beenz | not download all you want | Dec 14 21:50 |
| _Goblin | when it says unlimited downloads, one could be forgiven for thinking it meant unlimited. | Dec 14 21:51 |
| beenz | the companies that provide ISP's with bandwidth don't sell unlimited either | Dec 14 21:51 |
| _Goblin | like I say, small print.... | Dec 14 21:51 |
| _Goblin | Unlimited downloads** **subject to fair use policy | Dec 14 21:51 |
| beenz | look carefully at the ads | Dec 14 21:51 |
| beenz | the context is not bandwidth | Dec 14 21:51 |
| beenz | if it is they are lying | Dec 14 21:51 |
| _Goblin | no the advert said, unlimited downloads. | Dec 14 21:51 |
| beenz | where is that | Dec 14 21:52 |
| _Goblin | it had a "*" which referred to a disclaimer about fair use.... | Dec 14 21:52 |
| beenz | you should report them to your counties agency that deals with false advertising | Dec 14 21:52 |
| _Goblin | I can't remember this was years ago..... | Dec 14 21:52 |
| _Goblin | I ended up going with o2 | Dec 14 21:52 |
| _Goblin | beenz: But its not....the ad is clear... Unlimited downloads subject to fair use policy | Dec 14 21:53 |
| beenz | you cant legally use double speak in ads | Dec 14 21:53 |
| _Goblin | the fact that the "subject to fair use" was in the small print makes it no problem at all | Dec 14 21:53 |
| _Goblin | beenz: you can here quite legally.... | Dec 14 21:53 |
| beenz | not in the US at least | Dec 14 21:53 |
| _Goblin | for most people 25gig would be more than what they require so yes, it would be unlimited to them | Dec 14 21:53 |
| beenz | ahh | Dec 14 21:53 |
| beenz | 25gig is so small | Dec 14 21:54 |
| _Goblin | this was a while ago.... | Dec 14 21:54 |
| beenz | are you in the third world? | Dec 14 21:54 |
| beenz | oh | Dec 14 21:54 |
| _Goblin | what mars? | Dec 14 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | Chrome Adblock seems to have improved a lot | Dec 14 21:54 |
| beenz | third world countries | Dec 14 21:54 |
| _Goblin | ah.... | Dec 14 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | but you need Chrome 17 to make it work as intended | Dec 14 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | maybe I'll just do that | Dec 14 21:54 |
| _Goblin | no.... | Dec 14 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | he licensed it under the GPL 3 and isn't trying to sneak ads in through the back door | Dec 14 21:55 |
| beenz | i use the adblock plus rule sets in konquerer | Dec 14 21:55 |
| beenz | i dont trust google not to be spying | Dec 14 21:56 |
| _Goblin | beenz: interesting.... | Dec 14 21:56 |
| _Goblin | beenz: what about your ISP? | Dec 14 21:56 |
| _Goblin | beenz: how can you be sure they are not? | Dec 14 21:57 |
| beenz | what about them | Dec 14 21:57 |
| beenz | they would need to figure out my exit nodes and exploit tor | Dec 14 21:57 |
| _Goblin | and whats special about you out of millions that would make you of interest even if they were engaging in spying? | Dec 14 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | Jamie Zawinski's story about really-bad-attitude newsgroup and the Microsoft subpoena was a good read | Dec 14 21:57 |
| beenz | i cant even use google, it says im a criminal for using tor | Dec 14 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 14 21:57 |
| schestowitz | konquerer has a good blocker | Dec 14 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | he thought it was a closed group between himself and a few friends | Dec 14 21:58 |
| beenz | special about me? | Dec 14 21:58 |
| _Goblin | talking hypothetically.... | Dec 14 21:58 |
| beenz | lots | Dec 14 21:58 |
| _Goblin | in regards to spying. | Dec 14 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | and Microsoft got a lawyer to harass them and make him turn over that newsgroup's contents to them | Dec 14 21:58 |
| _Goblin | ah... | Dec 14 21:58 |
| schestowitz | beenz: _Goblin: when surveying ISPs earlier this year I got the impression they had been sued for the unlimited claims because of the way they presented the offers and put lots of disclaimer over the phone bots too | Dec 14 21:58 |
| beenz | i do a lot of anarchist research so i ended up one time being harassed by cops | Dec 14 21:59 |
| _Goblin | the "fair use" policy itself was challenged not the ads to my knowledge | Dec 14 21:59 |
| beenz | based on google search | Dec 14 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | you can make someone's life a living hell with a competent lawyer | Dec 14 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | even if you have nothing on them because they didn't do anything | Dec 14 21:59 |
| _Goblin | beenz: funny that, as a death metal fan Ive made similar searches..... | Dec 14 21:59 |
| schestowitz | beenz: there are some things you can't Google | Dec 14 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | to Microsoft, paying $500 an hour to some law firm to harass employees of a competing company is nothing | Dec 14 21:59 |
| beenz | there are also practical reasons | Dec 14 22:00 |
| beenz | donttrack.us | Dec 14 22:00 |
| schestowitz | or not too much anyway, so make local copies in general. It doesn't have to be nefarious, just potentially be perceived that way. | Dec 14 22:00 |
| _Goblin | and how many staff would it take to track everyone, or is it just certain people, like you? | Dec 14 22:00 |
| beenz | do you want some advertiser thinking you have herpes because you did a search out of curiousity? | Dec 14 22:00 |
| schestowitz | Google/search is thoughtcrime police implmented at long last | Dec 14 22:00 |
| _Goblin | beenz: Ive never had a curiosity about herpes... | Dec 14 22:00 |
| beenz | tracking people is easy | Dec 14 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | well, there's no reason to believe Duck Duck Go isn't tracking you | Dec 14 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | you only have their word that they aren't | Dec 14 22:01 |
| beenz | companies are already figuring out ways to turn the data into relevant profiles | Dec 14 22:01 |
| _Goblin | DaemonFC: exactly...... | Dec 14 22:01 |
| beenz | they could try | Dec 14 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | how do you know what data they collect | Dec 14 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | and who they sell it to | Dec 14 22:02 |
| _Goblin | DaemonFC: and this is the problem, the ISP, the search engine, a website, the government....all can be alleged to be tracking....how they have the staff to monitor all this information is anyones guess. | Dec 14 22:02 |
| beenz | the fbi can't even crack lvm encryption | Dec 14 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | they don't have to disclose that to you | Dec 14 22:02 |
| beenz | all their tools assume the criminal has windows | Dec 14 22:02 |
| schestowitz | either way, in the UK the ISPs also know what you search for and visit | Dec 14 22:02 |
| beenz | TOR is their worst nightmare | Dec 14 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | the point of a police state is to make everyone feel like they're being watched | Dec 14 22:02 |
| *XFaCE gives voice to Diablo-D3 | Dec 14 22:03 | |
| *XFaCE gives channel operator status to Diablo-D3 | Dec 14 22:03 | |
| schestowitz | maybe you could HTPS it for them not to receive the same info as the 'cloud' you use | Dec 14 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | even if you only have the resources to track less than 1% of what goes on | Dec 14 22:03 |
| beenz | even duckduckgo cant track you if you're on TOR | Dec 14 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | you make a few brutal examples | Dec 14 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | and expect everyone else will voluntarily police themselves | Dec 14 22:03 |
| schestowitz | do what RMS does | Dec 14 22:03 |
| schestowitz | or set up nodes for search | Dec 14 22:03 |
| _Goblin | or just not go on the net at all | Dec 14 22:04 |
| schestowitz | then query bia those anonymously and shred logs | Dec 14 22:04 |
| _Goblin | get rid of your debit card | Dec 14 22:04 |
| beenz | RMS is smart, no browser | Dec 14 22:04 |
| schestowitz | make a google anonymising node | Dec 14 22:04 |
| _Goblin | I assume beenz you don't have a credit card | Dec 14 22:04 |
| _Goblin | or a bank card | Dec 14 22:04 |
| beenz | the government has to figure out what he is thinking based on what he publishes and speaks about in public | Dec 14 22:04 |
| schestowitz | with an ISP that has random junk spewed into it to add noise | Dec 14 22:04 |
| beenz | not very accurate compared to tracking via search | Dec 14 22:04 |
| _Goblin | I assume beenz you don't fill up your car at a petrol station. | Dec 14 22:04 |
| _Goblin | or travel on a motorway | Dec 14 22:04 |
| _Goblin | I assume you don't have a passport or use a telephone line | Dec 14 22:05 |
| _Goblin | or mobile phone | Dec 14 22:05 |
| schestowitz | why use straw men? | Dec 14 22:05 |
| _Goblin | who me? | Dec 14 22:05 |
| beenz | i use a local credit union | Dec 14 22:05 |
| schestowitz | beenz is a techrbytes listener BTW | Dec 14 22:05 |
| beenz | no car | Dec 14 22:05 |
| schestowitz | I know how to monimise those issues | Dec 14 22:05 |
| schestowitz | You can't eliminate them | Dec 14 22:05 |
| schestowitz | Noone does | Dec 14 22:05 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: I don't know if you are aware but as soon as you pull into a garage your number plate is logged on an ANPR | Dec 14 22:06 |
| schestowitz | environmentalist and RMS included | Dec 14 22:06 |
| _Goblin | checked against stolen plates... | Dec 14 22:06 |
| schestowitz | and they explain why | Dec 14 22:06 |
| _Goblin | or previous drive outs.... | Dec 14 22:06 |
| beenz | the dangers of allowing the cops to track people in public remotely | Dec 14 22:06 |
| schestowitz | phones can do that better | Dec 14 22:06 |
| _Goblin | everytime you pass an A road an anpr logs your reg... | Dec 14 22:06 |
| _Goblin | beenz: nothing to do with police.... | Dec 14 22:06 |
| schestowitz | they use triangulation to know where you go | Dec 14 22:06 |
| _Goblin | beenz: anpr is run by the DVLA | Dec 14 22:06 |
| schestowitz | and through social/peer pressure people are urged to get their personal phone which they must register with ID | Dec 14 22:07 |
| beenz | schestowitz you cant get a cell phone here without providing a credit check | Dec 14 22:07 |
| schestowitz | You can pay with cash for most things, tracking with CCTV is still cumbersome | Dec 14 22:07 |
| _Goblin | well unless its pay as you go, its a pointless exercise if you are suggesting logging. | Dec 14 22:08 |
| schestowitz | beenz: more or less the same here, and they'd phone your home to and verify the details | Dec 14 22:08 |
| _Goblin | but your work place doesn't pay in cash though does it? | Dec 14 22:08 |
| schestowitz | I thought that as an exercise I'd see what happens if you provide false info | Dec 14 22:08 |
| schestowitz | as in, claiming the right to anonymous use of a mobile device | Dec 14 22:08 |
| _Goblin | no probs.... | Dec 14 22:08 |
| _Goblin | unless its a store policy | Dec 14 22:09 |
| schestowitz | yes probs :-) | Dec 14 22:09 |
| beenz | my workplace pays by bank check and i deposit it into the local credit union | Dec 14 22:09 |
| _Goblin | however.... | Dec 14 22:09 |
| schestowitz | or carrier | Dec 14 22:09 |
| schestowitz | Maybe some allow it | Dec 14 22:09 |
| schestowitz | But they ought to be named | Dec 14 22:09 |
| _Goblin | there is no criminal offense of failing to provide details when buying a tv or mobile phone | Dec 14 22:09 |
| _Goblin | or even giving fake details | Dec 14 22:09 |
| schestowitz | I was at a shop and asked if I can avoid providing info | Dec 14 22:09 |
| schestowitz | They declined | Dec 14 22:09 |
| beenz | fake details are illegal here | Dec 14 22:09 |
| beenz | you can just say no | Dec 14 22:09 |
| schestowitz | even for prepaid | Dec 14 22:10 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: that will be a store policy | Dec 14 22:10 |
| beenz | fake = fraud | Dec 14 22:10 |
| _Goblin | nope...not in uk law. | Dec 14 22:10 |
| schestowitz | ok, thanks | Dec 14 22:10 |
| _Goblin | unless you are getting "unlawful gain" | Dec 14 22:10 |
| _Goblin | If I buy a TV under the name Mickey Mouse, I'm not unlawfully obtaining anything | Dec 14 22:10 |
| beenz | it might be unlawful gain if you have bad credit | Dec 14 22:10 |
| schestowitz | name a store that does not have that policy if you know one | Dec 14 22:10 |
| _Goblin | beenz: but then you wouldn't get credit on a fake name | Dec 14 22:11 |
| _Goblin | beenz: and you WOULD be expected to provide personal details. | Dec 14 22:11 |
| schestowitz | what we reallt need is more SIP with strong encryption | Dec 14 22:11 |
| beenz | no but if they have a deposit policy for bad credit you are getting unlawful gain by not giving them correct info | Dec 14 22:11 |
| schestowitz | lanline sna cellular phones are already wiretrapped to death | Dec 14 22:11 |
| beenz | they call it fraud here | Dec 14 22:11 |
| schestowitz | So much so that even Rupert Murdoch and his flukies can get in to people's lives | Dec 14 22:11 |
| beenz | you might be saving yourself a $700 deposit | Dec 14 22:12 |
| beenz | thats considered gain | Dec 14 22:12 |
| _Goblin | beenz: if you are buying it outright theres not an issue..... what you are talking about is more of deception.....or obtaining a percunerary advantage. | Dec 14 22:12 |
| _Goblin | beenz: thats UK law. | Dec 14 22:12 |
| beenz | im talking 2-3 year contracts | Dec 14 22:12 |
| _Goblin | well of course... | Dec 14 22:12 |
| beenz | free phones, discounted plans, etc | Dec 14 22:12 |
| _Goblin | in order for a contract to be signed you need legit details | Dec 14 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | http://distrowatch.com/images/screenshots/opensuse-12.1-kde3.png | Dec 14 22:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Dec 14 22:12 |
| _Goblin | otherwise its not a contract | Dec 14 22:12 |
| schestowitz | most are contracts | Dec 14 22:13 |
| beenz | did you know its not a contract if you cant negotiate the terms? | Dec 14 22:13 |
| schestowitz | They can label prepaid as such, I think | Dec 14 22:13 |
| beenz | i got out of my last slave phone that way | Dec 14 22:13 |
| schestowitz | Depending on the vendor. But again, let me know of a shop that lets me get a phone without giving my details | Dec 14 22:13 |
| MinceR | gn | Dec 14 22:14 |
| schestowitz | I might spend a day trying this again and see if I can fish something other than dirty looks from sellers.. like I'm a potential crok | Dec 14 22:14 |
| _Goblin | beenz: Now you are moving more into consumer law which is not an area I'm too familiar with.....although I don't think such a law applies civilly in the UK | Dec 14 22:14 |
| schestowitz | *crook | Dec 14 22:14 |
| schestowitz | it's not about phonecalls btw | Dec 14 22:14 |
| beenz | my carrier tried to force me to keep my phone and it had started giving me headaches | Dec 14 22:14 |
| schestowitz | phones are surveillance devices now | Dec 14 22:14 |
| beenz | they quoted all of the capitalist corporate sponsored balogny | Dec 14 22:15 |
| schestowitz | they need only be switched on for you to be watched | Dec 14 22:15 |
| beenz | saying they dont | Dec 14 22:15 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: with court order... | Dec 14 22:15 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: trying getting that evidence submitted to a court without one | Dec 14 22:15 |
| schestowitz | these things get abused | Dec 14 22:15 |
| schestowitz | I heard stories from people who work in these departments | Dec 14 22:15 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: and phones have always been surveillance devices, as I say, as long as court order is in place. | Dec 14 22:15 |
| schestowitz | and that who is spied on, at least in the US, need not be notified of it either | Dec 14 22:16 |
| beenz | thanks to new laws, they can even spy on you without court orders | Dec 14 22:16 |
| beenz | it would be illegal to tell anyone too | Dec 14 22:16 |
| schestowitz | depends where | Dec 14 22:16 |
| _Goblin | well it does sort of defeat the object if someone is told that they are being watched. | Dec 14 22:16 |
| schestowitz | not really | Dec 14 22:16 |
| _Goblin | ? | Dec 14 22:16 |
| schestowitz | it can help actually | Dec 14 22:16 |
| _Goblin | go for it | Dec 14 22:16 |
| schestowitz | and get them off their evil plot or whatever, if any... | Dec 14 22:17 |
| schestowitz | Remember: | Dec 14 22:17 |
| schestowitz | law enforcement is a public service | Dec 14 22:17 |
| schestowitz | When it ceases to be there, it's oppressions and tyranny | Dec 14 22:17 |
| schestowitz | I don't want to be watched | Dec 14 22:17 |
| _Goblin | yes with one major factor you are missing.... | Dec 14 22:17 |
| schestowitz | I want the service to suit the human rights we learned about from history's mistakes | Dec 14 22:17 |
| schestowitz | Including the Statsi | Dec 14 22:17 |
| beenz | right schestowitz - they want to keep their jobs | Dec 14 22:17 |
| schestowitz | i.e. us below them | Dec 14 22:18 |
| schestowitz | just coming once in 4 years to say "ok, fine, carry on" | Dec 14 22:18 |
| _Goblin | unfortunately you are policed by consent..... the public rightly or wrongly have given the duty of policing to a force to precvent and detect crime. | Dec 14 22:18 |
| beenz | if crime went away they would need less cops | Dec 14 22:18 |
| _Goblin | *force is used in terms of location..... | Dec 14 22:18 |
| schestowitz | or if crime is reclassified | Dec 14 22:18 |
| schestowitz | thus the need for war on... stuff | Dec 14 22:18 |
| schestowitz | like pot | Dec 14 22:18 |
| beenz | politicians hate the idea of cutting gov't jobs | Dec 14 22:18 |
| _Goblin | why not just make everything legal and get rid of crime completely? ;) | Dec 14 22:19 |
| schestowitz | private protection force | Dec 14 22:19 |
| schestowitz | e.g. when people stampede on govt. offices | Dec 14 22:19 |
| schestowitz | see what happened in Egypt | Dec 14 22:19 |
| beenz | goblin - thats anarchy, just talking about it publicly will make you suspect if your not careful | Dec 14 22:19 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: pot used to be legal | Dec 14 22:19 |
| _Goblin | I was being flippant beenz | Dec 14 22:19 |
| schestowitz | [not that I ever did drugs] | Dec 14 22:20 |
| _Goblin | pot still is legal | Dec 14 22:20 |
| _Goblin | if its prescribed | Dec 14 22:20 |
| _Goblin | so is opiates | Dec 14 22:20 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: :-) just a hypothetical discussion, but the original point was, sometimes we need to compromise "security" to secure liberty | Dec 14 22:20 |
| _Goblin | if they are prescribed | Dec 14 22:20 |
| schestowitz | If we want total security, the world would become a glocbal penal system with people all in cells | Dec 14 22:20 |
| beenz | the voluntary facebook system is better than the forced boot camp | Dec 14 22:22 |
| schestowitz | hehe.. fb | Dec 14 22:22 |
| schestowitz | How much old people hate it.. | Dec 14 22:22 |
| schestowitz | the yougn kids don't | Dec 14 22:22 |
| schestowitz | they grew up into the world where privacy does not exist | Dec 14 22:23 |
| beenz | old people hate everything | Dec 14 22:23 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: even then total security would not exist....the human condition to seek to exploit ones surroundings to ones own gain... | Dec 14 22:23 |
| schestowitz | and they never appreciated what they didn't see their age peers lacking anyway | Dec 14 22:23 |
| schestowitz | Good for those in power | Dec 14 22:23 |
| schestowitz | Watching over their 'coop' of 1 billion of so profiles :-) | Dec 14 22:23 |
| schestowitz | *or so | Dec 14 22:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The Internet of Things will be open. Open Source, Open Hardware, just check the entries here (and vote!): http://posts... http://b1t.it/ab4e | Dec 14 22:23 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL | Dec 14 22:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - The Internet of Things will be open. Open Source, Open… .::. Size~: 47.32 KB | Dec 14 22:23 |
| schestowitz | beenz: well, they hate change | Dec 14 22:24 |
| schestowitz | And thingd change over time,... evetrything does | Dec 14 22:24 |
| schestowitz | thus they hate everything | Dec 14 22:24 |
| schestowitz | I saw that a lot... they become incompatible with 3 generations backwards, then they get rejected, then they resent that generation and die | Dec 14 22:25 |
| beenz | some hate change so much, that imo they develop alzheimers just to get rid of all the new | Dec 14 22:25 |
| _Goblin | I don't like change..... | Dec 14 22:25 |
| schestowitz | not fair to alzheimers-afflicated people | Dec 14 22:25 |
| schestowitz | Like my aunt in Miami | Dec 14 22:26 |
| _Goblin | and I don't think the current tech world is a patch on the late 80's and early 90's in the days of the Amiga | Dec 14 22:26 |
| schestowitz | Some people accept chance | Dec 14 22:26 |
| schestowitz | but illnesses are genetic in part | Dec 14 22:26 |
| beenz | you might get alzheimers if its in your family | Dec 14 22:26 |
| schestowitz | no blood connection | Dec 14 22:27 |
| *koolhead17 (~atul@unaffiliated/koolhead17) has joined #techrights | Dec 14 22:27 | |
| schestowitz | In mine, cancer is more probable | Dec 14 22:27 |
| beenz | you should quit using most spray deodourants | Dec 14 22:27 |
| beenz | mt | Dec 14 22:27 |
| beenz | cancer? | Dec 14 22:27 |
| schestowitz | what's in them other than gasses that harm the ozone layer? | Dec 14 22:27 |
| beenz | thats gonna be gone soon | Dec 14 22:27 |
| beenz | they have nano particles that can destroy cancer | Dec 14 22:28 |
| schestowitz | oh, didn't realise that | Dec 14 22:28 |
| schestowitz | same for printers | Dec 14 22:28 |
| beenz | they enter larger holes that exist in cancer cells | Dec 14 22:28 |
| schestowitz | they emit that smelly thing... the laser/toner ones | Dec 14 22:28 |
| beenz | the holes are smaller in normal ones | Dec 14 22:28 |
| schestowitz | And it enters the lungs and can clog stuff up | Dec 14 22:28 |
| _Goblin | pleased I don't have a printer. | Dec 14 22:28 |
| schestowitz | I read about it via Groklaw a few years back... probbaly not good to sit next to the busy printer area in the office 9-5 | Dec 14 22:29 |
| _Goblin | ....says goblin the smoker | Dec 14 22:29 |
| beenz | same thing if you inhale from markers to get high | Dec 14 22:29 |
| beenz | or do whip its | Dec 14 22:29 |
| schestowitz | In my older office there was a busy printer behind me | Dec 14 22:30 |
| beenz | best april fools jokes can be done with wireless printers | Dec 14 22:30 |
| schestowitz | Not *very* busy though... you can usually sense and smell this stuff inside printing rooms -- they also seal some of the junk that comes off | Dec 14 22:30 |
| _Goblin | lets go back to daisywheel.... far safer..... | Dec 14 22:30 |
| _Goblin | although you'd be deaf by 40 near one of them all day | Dec 14 22:31 |
| beenz | one of my female counterparts is so clueless, she didnt know the printer was wireless | Dec 14 22:31 |
| schestowitz | [22:30] <beenz> best april fools jokes can be done with wireless printers | Dec 14 22:31 |
| schestowitz | Like programming the head to move at speeds that play out sounds? | Dec 14 22:31 |
| schestowitz | !google printer plays sonata youtube | Dec 14 22:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - (1/3) Prokofiev Piano Sonata No.8 - First Movement ... - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D51Yjj2LzfRY | Dec 14 22:31 |
| beenz | i printed a note saying "help i'm trapped inside the printer" when she was alone | Dec 14 22:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Mozart Sonata K310 Mov I - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dww2oQtgyPgk | Dec 14 22:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Moonlight Sonata Sheet Music - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DSkXfYCkQkqg | Dec 14 22:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Padre Antonio Soler - Watch Youtube Music Videos, Artist Video ... | http://www.nme.com/nme-video/youtube/search/Padre%2520Antonio%2520Soler | Dec 14 22:31 |
| beenz | i was around the corner on my netbook | Dec 14 22:31 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Dec 14 22:31 |
| schestowitz | Maybe she should check gthe star sign | Dec 14 22:32 |
| beenz | lol | Dec 14 22:32 |
| schestowitz | print it | Dec 14 22:32 |
| beenz | this one believes wigi boards | Dec 14 22:32 |
| schestowitz | key word is the third one | Dec 14 22:32 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1040212 "Advantages of Konqueror/Rekong?" | Dec 14 22:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 14 22:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] You answered, claiming MPLv2 was already released. Never mind, you're too busy for this. | Dec 14 22:33 | |
| schestowitz | No phoning home, supporting FOSS (KDE) devs, integration... | Dec 14 22:34 |
| beenz | my buddy had a good april fools joke | Dec 14 22:34 |
| beenz | he printed off a QR code that was a url for a goatse clone | Dec 14 22:34 |
| schestowitz | Ewww.... | Dec 14 22:35 |
| beenz | i dont know what he baited it with around the QR code | Dec 14 22:35 |
| schestowitz | Can't stand even that word | Dec 14 22:35 |
| beenz | i think thats pretty hilarious | Dec 14 22:35 |
| beenz | QR codes generate curiosity | Dec 14 22:35 |
| beenz | a good clean one might be a rick roll | Dec 14 22:35 |
| schestowitz | so do links in slahdot comments :-) | Dec 14 22:36 |
| schestowitz | or in COLA, if coming from trolls | Dec 14 22:36 |
| schestowitz | hmm.. the most popular video site is now part of the b0rg too | Dec 14 22:36 |
| schestowitz | the g0rg | Dec 14 22:36 |
| schestowitz | can't watch much video in one's private home with just the ISP watching | Dec 14 22:37 |
| schestowitz | and Bram signed some MAFIAA deal so torrent too is being logged | Dec 14 22:37 |
| schestowitz | in the past things were better | Dec 14 22:37 |
| schestowitz | you got a TV | Dec 14 22:37 |
| schestowitz | got an antenna and dish | Dec 14 22:37 |
| schestowitz | and chose a frequency to tune into | Dec 14 22:37 |
| schestowitz | it was a one-way transmission | Dec 14 22:37 |
| schestowitz | now with all thos tivoised digital boxes and Internet/Windows everything we watch is tracked and not even Neilsen is needed | Dec 14 22:38 |
| schestowitz | I guess sooner or later the only private communication we can have will be at the restaurant | Dec 14 22:38 |
| schestowitz | The private drawings will be done with paper and pen | Dec 14 22:38 |
| schestowitz | And the only video we view will be some re-enactment from a mate or maybe a showing at the pub, assuming you need not registrer to enter | Dec 14 22:39 |
| schestowitz | The thoughtpolice has gained so much from the Net and we the people gained so little apart from the feeling of liberation | Dec 14 22:39 |
| beenz | the cops arent very smart | Dec 14 22:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] CA Senator Steinberg proposes to cut textbook costs via #OER library: http://bit.ly/sgihNk Watch press conf: http://ur1.ca/6p2uh | Dec 14 22:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Steinberg Proposal Slashes Textbook Costs for California College Students | Senate President pro Tem Darrell Steinberg .::. Size~: 26.92 KB | Dec 14 22:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Steinberg Proposal Slashes Texbook Costs for CA College Students - YouTube .::. Size~: 92.27 KB | Dec 14 22:40 |
| beenz | the best they can do is hope you're running windows | Dec 14 22:40 |
| schestowitz | not reallyt | Dec 14 22:40 |
| beenz | yeah man | Dec 14 22:41 |
| schestowitz | they have power, along with other govt. arms, to get your pipe | Dec 14 22:41 |
| beenz | they have a usb stick they use with a program that helps gather evidence | Dec 14 22:41 |
| beenz | only works in windows | Dec 14 22:41 |
| schestowitz | so you're only good if you transmit encrypted with a peer that support enc. or work locally | Dec 14 22:41 |
| schestowitz | !google coffe windows | Dec 14 22:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Espresso coffee cup icon | Windows 7,Cloud Computing ... | http://thecustomizewindows.com/2011/06/espresso-coffee-cup-icon/ | Dec 14 22:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Coffee Beans Wallpaper Pack for PC and Mac | Windows 7,Cloud ... | http://thecustomizewindows.com/2011/06/coffee-beans-wallpaper-pack-for-pc-and-mac/ | Dec 14 22:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Pocket Coffee Mobile freeware for Windows Mobile Phone. | http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-pocket-coffee-mobile.html | Dec 14 22:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - T-Coffee Home Page | http://www.tcoffee.org/Projects_home_page/t_coffee_home_page.html | Dec 14 22:42 |
| beenz | there is another issue with just using isp data | Dec 14 22:42 |
| beenz | they can't prove its you | Dec 14 22:42 |
| schestowitz | !google cofee windows | Dec 14 22:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Computer Online Forensic Evidence Extractor (COFEE) | http://www.microsoft.com/industry/government/solutions/cofee/default.aspx | Dec 14 22:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Pirates get a taste of Microsoft COFEE | http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/11/pirates-get-to-taste-microsoft-cofee.ars | Dec 14 22:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Microsoft COFEE security key sucks criminal data from locked-down ... | http://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-cofee-security-key-sucks-criminal-data-from-locked-down-pcs-2911404/ | Dec 14 22:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - COFEE Microsoft Forensic Tool Download | http://digiex.net/downloads/download-center-2-0/applications/2812-cofee-microsoft-forensic-tool-download.html | Dec 14 22:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @fontana yes, but vacation time means putting out fires in the server room | Dec 14 22:42 | |
| beenz | too many cases where people with open wifi got out scott free | Dec 14 22:42 |
| beenz | if you have open wifi they need to find evience on your computer | Dec 14 22:42 |
| beenz | cross reference checks | Dec 14 22:43 |
| beenz | its the NSA you have to worry about | Dec 14 22:43 |
| beenz | even the FBI are idiots | Dec 14 22:43 |
| schestowitz | We don't have those here | Dec 14 22:43 |
| schestowitz | But then again, the FBI and NSA operate internationally | Dec 14 22:44 |
| schestowitz | They even have torture chambers in some outposts in Europe | Dec 14 22:44 |
| beenz | yeah | Dec 14 22:44 |
| beenz | if you touch a US server they can spy on that | Dec 14 22:44 |
| schestowitz | root nds server? | Dec 14 22:44 |
| schestowitz | dns | Dec 14 22:45 |
| schestowitz | but you don;'t touch it | Dec 14 22:45 |
| schestowitz | BIND might | Dec 14 22:45 |
| schestowitz | but let's say you need your own DNS server | Dec 14 22:45 |
| schestowitz | so you'd populate it upon demand | Dec 14 22:45 |
| schestowitz | and then give stuff away | Dec 14 22:45 |
| beenz | when you visit a us website you are transmitting packets to and from the US | Dec 14 22:45 |
| schestowitz | but who is "you"? | Dec 14 22:46 |
| schestowitz | An IP address | Dec 14 22:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: no | Dec 14 22:46 |
| schestowitz | get your own ISP started | Dec 14 22:46 |
| beenz | if someone used skype for example | Dec 14 22:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | the _FBI_ doesnt operate internationally | Dec 14 22:46 |
| schestowitz | and make a policy of hising IDs | Dec 14 22:46 |
| schestowitz | hiding | Dec 14 22:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | the CIA does. | Dec 14 22:46 |
| schestowitz | I think Assange did something like that or helped create one | Dec 14 22:46 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: same beast, different department, different acronym | Dec 14 22:47 |
| beenz | *AWAY: FAJITAS* | Dec 14 22:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: yes, but if you're attacking a hydra, you need to use the right weapons for the right head | Dec 14 22:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | years of video games have proven that for me ;) | Dec 14 22:49 |
| schestowitz | which games? | Dec 14 22:49 |
| schestowitz | Usually in FPS you can use the same for all | Dec 14 22:50 |
| schestowitz | for faster moving ones you might not want an RPG though | Dec 14 22:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | RPGs, clearly | Dec 14 22:50 |
| schestowitz | 5-barrel RPG launcher? | Dec 14 22:51 |
| schestowitz | yes, please! | Dec 14 22:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] ohhhhh the kegging equipment arrived | Dec 14 22:52 | |
| Diablo-D3 | hurr | Dec 14 22:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Alone in the Wilderness (video) | The Vigilant Citizen - #vc #bushcraft #preppers #docs http://goo.gl/MIvpc | Dec 14 22:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Alone in the Wilderness (video) | The Vigilant Citizen .::. Size~: 170.83 KB | Dec 14 22:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] cryptogon.com » F-35 Joint Strike Fighter: Trillion Dollar Boondoggle - #usa #mic http://goo.gl/bpBFX http://goo.gl/3UdXI | Dec 14 22:57 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: cryptogon.com » F-35 Joint Strike Fighter: Trillion Dollar Boondoggle .::. Size~: 12.89 KB | Dec 14 22:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Putin boasts new jet fighter better than U.S. plane | Reuters .::. Size~: 93.87 KB | Dec 14 22:57 |
| schestowitz | Plasma Active Two Released http://dot.kde.org/2011/12/14/plasma-active-two-released | Dec 14 22:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Plasma Active Two Released | KDE.news .::. Size~: 14.84 KB | Dec 14 22:57 |
| schestowitz | http://penguinpetes.com/b2evo/index.php?title=a_reminder_there_is_no_such_thing_as_a_s&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 | Dec 14 23:01 |
| schestowitz | "It's quite funny watching aghast at the news that the FBI was using Carrier IQ to spy on citizens." | Dec 14 23:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Penguin Pete's Blog - A Reminder: There Is No Such Thing As A Secret. Ever. .::. Size~: 22.01 KB | Dec 14 23:01 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: | Dec 14 23:01 |
| schestowitz | speaking of cellphone surveillance without warrant ^^ | Dec 14 23:01 |
| schestowitz | ' | Dec 14 23:02 |
| schestowitz | Furthermore, may I quote the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act of 1994? | Dec 14 23:02 |
| schestowitz | "CALEA's purpose is to enhance the ability of law enforcement and intelligence agencies to conduct electronic surveillance by requiring that telecommunications carriers and manufacturers of telecommunications equipment modify and design their equipment, facilities, and services to ensure that they have built-in surveillance capabilities, allowing federal agencies to monitor all telephone, broadband internet, and VoIP traffic in | Dec 14 23:02 |
| schestowitz | real-time." | Dec 14 23:02 |
| schestowitz | ' | Dec 14 23:02 |
| _Goblin | Pre PACE | Dec 14 23:03 |
| _Goblin | ripr policy now encompasses ANY surviellence covert or overt. | Dec 14 23:03 |
| _Goblin | and I don't think thats a UK law | Dec 14 23:04 |
| _Goblin | Telecomunications act would come closest...but then again theres NO legislation that allows surviellance without warrant.... | Dec 14 23:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] |It's quite funny watching aghast at the news that the FBI was using Carrier IQ to spy on citizens." http://is.gd/cJWjgD #cellular #1984 | Dec 14 23:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Penguin Pete's Blog - A Reminder: There Is No Such Thing As A Secret. Ever. .::. Size~: 21.97 KB | Dec 14 23:05 |
| _Goblin | and lets be fair how many possible people are there to watch online...who's going to do it? and maybe more importantly where is all this data going to go? | Dec 14 23:06 |
| _Goblin | thats a hell of a database. | Dec 14 23:06 |
| schestowitz | yeah, The Register covered it | Dec 14 23:07 |
| schestowitz | hang on.. | Dec 14 23:07 |
| _Goblin | I think when you look at the luck some countries have with their governments, whilst ours is not perfect (neither is the law) we are damn lucky to be living here.......our version of poverty for example is less of a bitter pill to swallow than in other countries.... | Dec 14 23:08 |
| schestowitz | Can';t find it offhand | Dec 14 23:08 |
| schestowitz | This one is more recent but not relevant: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/12/01/security_firms_compete_to_sell_snoopware_to_repressive_governments/print.html | Dec 14 23:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Inside the shadow world of commercialised spook spyware [printer-friendly] • The Register .::. Size~: 17.71 KB | Dec 14 23:08 |
| schestowitz | There is a private company | Dec 14 23:08 |
| schestowitz | to which they can pass all the data inc. landline calls | Dec 14 23:09 |
| _Goblin | but then anyone can spy.... | Dec 14 23:09 |
| _Goblin | I can quote a recent article.... | Dec 14 23:09 |
| schestowitz | they can do the CCTV approach and limit retention to make space requirements ffeasible | Dec 14 23:09 |
| _Goblin | youdownloaded.com or similar...hit the press...been scraping swarms and publishing of what IP's have been downloading what off trackers. | Dec 14 23:09 |
| schestowitz | there was also the BBM debacle | Dec 14 23:09 |
| _Goblin | covert observation for comercial gain does exist....the existance of a nationwide governmental spying network to me would be impractical, impossible to manage and even more difficult to store. | Dec 14 23:11 |
| _Goblin | but before I go CCTV is a good one.... | Dec 14 23:11 |
| _Goblin | I can fully understand people being uncomfortable with CCTV watching... | Dec 14 23:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Plasma Active Two Released http://ur1.ca/6p3gn #kde | Dec 14 23:12 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Plasma Active Two Released | KDE.news .::. Size~: 14.84 KB | Dec 14 23:12 |
| _Goblin | I don't like it particularly either..... | Dec 14 23:12 |
| _Goblin | I don't like being watched by a stranger..... | Dec 14 23:12 |
| schestowitz | it's not that | Dec 14 23:13 |
| _Goblin | however, what do you say to the person who has recieved justice because of its existence...maybe the murderer of their family member convicted due to footage caught on camera.... | Dec 14 23:13 |
| schestowitz | "being watched by strangers" | Dec 14 23:13 |
| schestowitz | cameras are one thing | Dec 14 23:13 |
| schestowitz | let's not mix one with another | Dec 14 23:13 |
| _Goblin | how about the london riots..... do we suggest that CCTV is still not good when it brought to justice those people who made so many other peoples lives a misery? | Dec 14 23:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When Windows became most used desktop platform, the FBI developed back doors for it. It is well documented. We need *true* Free software. | Dec 14 23:13 | |
| _Goblin | sorry I thought we were talking observation/cctv | Dec 14 23:14 |
| schestowitz | London riots were many different things | Dec 14 23:14 |
| _Goblin | true... | Dec 14 23:14 |
| schestowitz | they were not just looting | Dec 14 23:14 |
| _Goblin | the offenders still were brought to justice... | Dec 14 23:14 |
| schestowitz | The media did this | Dec 14 23:14 |
| _Goblin | yep and where did the footage come from? | Dec 14 23:14 |
| schestowitz | like the toronoto protests got painted anarchists | Dec 14 23:14 |
| schestowitz | with images of burning cars | Dec 14 23:14 |
| _Goblin | it wasn't just the press. | Dec 14 23:14 |
| schestowitz | there is some grievance over inequality in London | Dec 14 23:14 |
| _Goblin | it was the shop footage, the camera's in highstreets. | Dec 14 23:14 |
| schestowitz | yeah, but it's not the major issue | Dec 14 23:15 |
| _Goblin | matters not the reason...... the people affected in the main had done nothing wrong...the home owners who saw their houses/flats tashed.. | Dec 14 23:15 |
| schestowitz | and prosecuting the poor ir not the solution | Dec 14 23:15 |
| schestowitz | it's hiding the symptom | Dec 14 23:15 |
| _Goblin | and thats why the thefts were items such as electrical goods, cigarettes et al | Dec 14 23:15 |
| schestowitz | not just that | Dec 14 23:15 |
| schestowitz | those most affected lost their homes | Dec 14 23:16 |
| schestowitz | repossessed | Dec 14 23:16 |
| schestowitz | a lot more alarming | Dec 14 23:16 |
| schestowitz | and those issues were not addressed at the end | Dec 14 23:16 |
| _Goblin | the cause is moot to the victims who saw their lives destroyed for no other reason than their shop/flat was in the wrong place. | Dec 14 23:16 |
| schestowitz | the media does not encourage lateral thinking | Dec 14 23:16 |
| schestowitz | it shows images | Dec 14 23:16 |
| schestowitz | and then follows them, telling you what to think | Dec 14 23:16 |
| schestowitz | I saw the Manchester 'riots' | Dec 14 23:17 |
| _Goblin | of course it does.... | Dec 14 23:17 |
| schestowitz | It was not that | Dec 14 23:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @Evan Freedom guerrilla reminds me of Citizen Smith. What is wrong with FAIF community? | Dec 14 23:17 | |
| schestowitz | there was an element of that, but it wasn't so simple | Dec 14 23:17 |
| schestowitz | I was there on the ground | Dec 14 23:17 |
| _Goblin | and thats fine... | Dec 14 23:17 |
| _Goblin | what would you say to the people who had their lives destroyed by it though? | Dec 14 23:17 |
| schestowitz | the point it, the looting is not expensive | Dec 14 23:17 |
| schestowitz | the whole thing combined | Dec 14 23:17 |
| schestowitz | compred to what other xcriminals do | Dec 14 23:18 |
| schestowitz | but with legal instruments on their side | Dec 14 23:18 |
| schestowitz | like lending out x10 the amount of money they actually have | Dec 14 23:18 |
| _Goblin | but you can't negate a victim with a "compared to what other criminals do" for the victims of the riots I suggest that holds little solace. | Dec 14 23:18 |
| schestowitz | and then making people's lives a stresseful hell, fearing they'll lose the house to people who never even put real money to back the purchase | Dec 14 23:18 |
| schestowitz | right, but I did not say so | Dec 14 23:19 |
| _Goblin | a little like Microsoft blaming XYZ for Windows failing....it means little to the person who lost their data. | Dec 14 23:19 |
| schestowitz | What I means was, also look at other crimes | Dec 14 23:19 |
| schestowitz | Dedicate and devite efforts to looking at gthe Big Crimes | Dec 14 23:19 |
| schestowitz | Now the ones with crowbarsand lighters | Dec 14 23:19 |
| gde33 | this is good spam, you should spam people with this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ5WdOTPais | Dec 14 23:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: LA City Council votes to end corporate personhood - December, 2011 (Occupy LA, Occupy Wall Street) - YouTube .::. Size~: 110.21 KB | Dec 14 23:19 |
| schestowitz | the MS analogy can be used differently | Dec 14 23:20 |
| gde33 | huhuhu | Dec 14 23:20 |
| _Goblin | but this is the problem... crime, law is not black and white....you can blanket legislate nor can anyone provide a blanket answer...its not that simple, its never that simple. | Dec 14 23:20 |
| schestowitz | they say Linux infringed patents | Dec 14 23:20 |
| schestowitz | and accuses Linux of breaking the law | Dec 14 23:20 |
| _Goblin | Heres a good example.... | Dec 14 23:20 |
| schestowitz | while Microsoft itself is committing many REAL heinous crimes against humanity and competition | Dec 14 23:20 |
| schestowitz | Guess which ones the courts are processing and which ones get ignored | Dec 14 23:20 |
| gde33 | beos did get that 10 million -.- | Dec 14 23:21 |
| _Goblin | John Smith breaks into your house and takes 100 pounds off your table....he then goes and buys heroin.... | Dec 14 23:21 |
| schestowitz | could do something else | Dec 14 23:21 |
| _Goblin | I think everyone would agree that a crime has taken place.... | Dec 14 23:21 |
| schestowitz | the heroin is not relevant here | Dec 14 23:21 |
| schestowitz | cause a robber is likely to be addicted | Dec 14 23:21 |
| _Goblin | I'm giving an example of the "un black and white" law/crime | Dec 14 23:21 |
| schestowitz | it's a stereotype of behaviour | Dec 14 23:21 |
| schestowitz | a hallmark of it | Dec 14 23:21 |
| _Goblin | its just an example, let me finish. | Dec 14 23:22 |
| schestowitz | and we demonise some drugs to demonise a class | Dec 14 23:22 |
| gde33 | what is the topic of debate? scrolling back seems a lot of work. | Dec 14 23:22 |
| schestowitz | why can't I say the same about a businessman who drinks a whole glass of wine in one night? | Dec 14 23:22 |
| gde33 | software copyright? | Dec 14 23:22 |
| _Goblin | so if we agree that John has stolen....(or I think he has anyway) | Dec 14 23:22 |
| schestowitz | because wine is classy as a drug | Dec 14 23:22 |
| _Goblin | lets example John again.... | Dec 14 23:22 |
| schestowitz | john stole but maybe his victim did too | Dec 14 23:22 |
| schestowitz | in other ways | Dec 14 23:22 |
| schestowitz | even ones that he had his lawyers legalise | Dec 14 23:23 |
| _Goblin | lets say he breaks into your house, steals 100 pounds but this time uses it to feed his starving family..... | Dec 14 23:23 |
| schestowitz | I don't know the story of the victim | Dec 14 23:23 |
| _Goblin | this is an example of why there is no one answer | Dec 14 23:23 |
| _Goblin | thats the point | Dec 14 23:23 |
| schestowitz | but it's more complicated than you put it in some cases | Dec 14 23:23 |
| schestowitz | sometimes they do need it to feed a belly | Dec 14 23:23 |
| _Goblin | law cannot be black and white..... | Dec 14 23:23 |
| schestowitz | I saw a video recdntly about a man who shoplifts cause he is hungry | Dec 14 23:23 |
| schestowitz | he said, funnily enough, "I don't steal for me, I stesal for my stomach" | Dec 14 23:24 |
| _Goblin | in both cases a theft took place...however the circumstances are very different.... this is why there can be no blanket legislative answer and why we can't "blanket" explain any particular behaviour | Dec 14 23:24 |
| schestowitz | So then there is also a societal responsibility to find out why the man is so hungry in the first place and how this can be addresses" | Dec 14 23:24 |
| schestowitz | what is theft? | Dec 14 23:24 |
| schestowitz | Let's start with the basics | Dec 14 23:24 |
| schestowitz | And what makes good and evil | Dec 14 23:24 |
| schestowitz | Cause I recently I saw a good video on it | Dec 14 23:24 |
| _Goblin | to dishonestly appropriate property belonging to the other with the intention to permenantly deprive the other of it.... | Dec 14 23:25 |
| schestowitz | Theft can also be done by bankers and be called "business" | Dec 14 23:25 |
| _Goblin | Sec (1) Theft Act | Dec 14 23:25 |
| schestowitz | We need to agree on terminology that's hinged on axioms or close to them | Dec 14 23:25 |
| _Goblin | If it falls into the above then its theft. | Dec 14 23:25 |
| _Goblin | this is why I argue there is no such thing as IP theft. | Dec 14 23:25 |
| gde33 | If you are reasonably wealthy but have people without food in the street you deserve to be robbed. | Dec 14 23:25 |
| schestowitz | that leads to property law | Dec 14 23:25 |
| _Goblin | theres no permanent deprivation | Dec 14 23:25 |
| schestowitz | for instancre | Dec 14 23:25 |
| gde33 | it would be rude not to | Dec 14 23:25 |
| _Goblin | nope | Dec 14 23:25 |
| schestowitz | If I 'own' a field | Dec 14 23:25 |
| _Goblin | property law is civil | Dec 14 23:26 |
| schestowitz | And trhe sun and rain grow plants in it | Dec 14 23:26 |
| _Goblin | this is criminal | Dec 14 23:26 |
| schestowitz | are those plants 'mine'? | Dec 14 23:26 |
| _Goblin | different court, different burden of proof | Dec 14 23:26 |
| _Goblin | ah | Dec 14 23:26 |
| _Goblin | plants? Property | Dec 14 23:26 |
| _Goblin | land....civil remit | Dec 14 23:26 |
| gde33 | they are only yours if the law says they are | Dec 14 23:26 |
| Brendan_T | gde33: all of us have plenty of money when there are people without food in the street :) | Dec 14 23:26 |
| _Goblin | since you can't physically permanently deprive someone of land...i.e take it away | Dec 14 23:26 |
| _Goblin | like you would say a can of coke | Dec 14 23:27 |
| gde33 | Brendan_T: Then you deserve to be robbed. Probably killed to. There is nothing like a good lynching | Dec 14 23:27 |
| _Goblin | I can move my boundary into your land, but I cannot physically take it away. | Dec 14 23:27 |
| schestowitz | right | Dec 14 23:27 |
| _Goblin | thats why it falls under civil | Dec 14 23:27 |
| schestowitz | what about those who claim to have "private property" | Dec 14 23:28 |
| _Goblin | yep what about them? | Dec 14 23:28 |
| schestowitz | We need to define those terms clearly | Dec 14 23:28 |
| Brendan_T | what's yours is what you're able to defend | Dec 14 23:28 |
| schestowitz | not just in terms of laws | Dec 14 23:28 |
| _Goblin | what do you want clarified about private property? | Dec 14 23:28 |
| schestowitz | I udually say, "leave the court our of it, let's try to determine what's reasonable from a huumanist/social POV" | Dec 14 23:28 |
| gde33 | I make up some papers that say you are the owner of the property, other people should respect that obviously. | Dec 14 23:28 |
| schestowitz | how can property be owned? | Dec 14 23:28 |
| schestowitz | And what does it mean to be owned | Dec 14 23:28 |
| schestowitz | Exsamle: owning a car | Dec 14 23:28 |
| schestowitz | you don't own a car | Dec 14 23:29 |
| schestowitz | you have a key to it | Dec 14 23:29 |
| _Goblin | you are right... | Dec 14 23:29 |
| schestowitz | so you have beter ability to move it around | Dec 14 23:29 |
| _Goblin | thats why you can't steal a car. | Dec 14 23:29 |
| _Goblin | and I'm serious | Dec 14 23:29 |
| schestowitz | the car is now part of your body | Dec 14 23:29 |
| _Goblin | there is no theft of motor vehicle | Dec 14 23:29 |
| _Goblin | the offense is "taking and driving away" | Dec 14 23:29 |
| schestowitz | It's a peripheral tool and there are laws that give you power to defend your control over this tool | Dec 14 23:29 |
| gde33 | Did you know aboriginal actually comes from ab-original like in ab-normal. A non person who therefore can not own land. | Dec 14 23:29 |
| Brendan_T | schestowitz: uh, what is property if not owned? isn't that a defining factor of it. | Dec 14 23:29 |
| _Goblin | because its impossible to prove permanent deprivation of a car. | Dec 14 23:29 |
| _Goblin | its like a squatter cannot be guilty of "theft" because he has taken residence in a house. | Dec 14 23:30 |
| schestowitz | Brendan_T: but those terms are confusing | Dec 14 23:30 |
| schestowitz | who owns mars? | Dec 14 23:30 |
| _Goblin | whoever plants the flag first? | Dec 14 23:30 |
| schestowitz | and what happens when that 'owner' dies? | Dec 14 23:30 |
| _Goblin | I'm sure there will be a war over that one in the future | Dec 14 23:31 |
| schestowitz | If I orbit around the sun, does the sun own me? | Dec 14 23:31 |
| _Goblin | no because you are not property | Dec 14 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | as much as anything does I guess | Dec 14 23:31 |
| _Goblin | although get caught in its gravity well and id say yes | Dec 14 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | unless a black hole gets too close and pwns the sun | Dec 14 23:31 |
| schestowitz | if parents give birth to a child, the child is a member of society, not a property | Dec 14 23:31 |
| schestowitz | many parents confuse this | Dec 14 23:31 |
| schestowitz | and occasionally use that as an excuse to beat up a child | Dec 14 23:31 |
| _Goblin | but thats a social confusion not a law one. | Dec 14 23:31 |
| schestowitz | it's a de facto law | Dec 14 23:32 |
| _Goblin | there is parental responsibility | Dec 14 23:32 |
| schestowitz | and arbitrary definitions | Dec 14 23:32 |
| schestowitz | where it suits our greed for power and control | Dec 14 23:32 |
| schestowitz | this is why people say "defend" or "protect" or "right" | Dec 14 23:32 |
| _Goblin | again though, an issue to take up with the human condition not the law. | Dec 14 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | a black hole swallowing our solar system is......unlikely.....not impossible | Dec 14 23:32 |
| gde33 | It is very simple really, every time a pion goes past start the player gets a sum of cash. This is how monopoly is played. | Dec 14 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | I like how Holly put it on Red Dwarf | Dec 14 23:32 |
| schestowitz | These assume entitlement that's made of thin air a lot of the time | Dec 14 23:32 |
| gde33 | Without this money the game isn't funny | Dec 14 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | "You see, the thing about space is, it's black" | Dec 14 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | "...and the thing about black holes is, they're also black" | Dec 14 23:33 |
| _Goblin | only in the absence of light though daem | Dec 14 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | right | Dec 14 23:33 |
| _Goblin | classic red dwarf! | Dec 14 23:33 |
| _Goblin | holly I believe | Dec 14 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | but you have to be looking as it passes right between you and a light source | Dec 14 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | so one could easily sneak up on us, were it out there | Dec 14 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | ;) | Dec 14 23:33 |
| _Goblin | would it need to sneak? | Dec 14 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | yes, black holes sneak | Dec 14 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | they're very sneaky | Dec 14 23:34 |
| _Goblin | ah... | Dec 14 23:34 |
| _Goblin | gotcha! | Dec 14 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | they sneak up on you | Dec 14 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | and go nom nom nom | Dec 14 23:34 |
| _Goblin | or do they creep? | Dec 14 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | BURP!!! | Dec 14 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | *gamma ray blast* | Dec 14 23:34 |
| _Goblin | I thought it more of a slurp | Dec 14 23:34 |
| _Goblin | and then following in Red Dwarf theme.... | Dec 14 23:35 |
| _Goblin | you get spat out of a white hole | Dec 14 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | but Jesus will save....a fraction of the straight white Christians in America | Dec 14 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | so it's a good time to be a straight white Christian American (as long as you're in the correct faction) | Dec 14 23:35 |
| _Goblin | right... on that note got to go to bed..... I'm taking the lad to Toys R Us tomorrow..... | Dec 14 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | white hole spewing time engines dead life support failing advice please | Dec 14 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 14 23:37 |
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| DaemonFC | I'm a computer with an IQ of one billion....NO I DO NOT WANT A CRUMPET! | Dec 14 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Dec 14 23:38 |
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| DaemonFC | I liked the one where Lister said he was going to be screwed to death by Tutankhamun's horny grandmother | Dec 14 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | makes me think of Dawn | Dec 14 23:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Fox News on Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer and his War On Reindeer Games http://identi.ca/url/62432411 | Dec 14 23:40 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: you think a lot of her | Dec 14 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | The one where the Epideme virus reanimated a 3 million year old corpse it had preserved in ice to chase after Lister | Dec 14 23:41 |
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| DaemonFC | Mandatory | Dec 14 23:43 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Blackwater and co Iraq data-dump: mercenaries shot a judge with impunity, used bullets as hand signals http://ur1.ca/6p44q | Dec 14 23:43 | |
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| *_Goblin has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Dec 14 23:44 | |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: http://identi.ca/notice/86926011 | Dec 14 23:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Dec-11 23:39:08 UTC - Identi.ca: Goldman Sachs + Warren Buffett = Not Many Jobs http://is.gd/ItqbAz same old vacuous PR from a bunch of gangsters who control media | Dec 14 23:44 |
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| schestowitz | IIRC you like warren | Dec 14 23:44 |
| schestowitz | i.e. the media controls your mind | Dec 14 23:44 |
| schestowitz | wall done, Warren, on a job well done | Dec 14 23:44 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3_S-YaRLa8&feature=related | Dec 14 23:45 |
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| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: no, I like what warren did with his personal life | Dec 14 23:45 |
| schestowitz | H0w well do you know him? | Dec 14 23:45 |
| schestowitz | You don't know him, you know.. | Dec 14 23:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | I think you're missing the point | Dec 14 23:45 |
| schestowitz | You know what his media tells you | Dec 14 23:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | he could have a gold plated sports car | Dec 14 23:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | I mean, fuck, a sold gold one | Dec 14 23:45 |
| schestowitz | he doesn't need that | Dec 14 23:46 |
| schestowitz | he got power | Dec 14 23:46 |
| schestowitz | he uses it | Dec 14 23:46 |
| schestowitz | he exercises it by lobbying | Dec 14 23:46 |
| schestowitz | and becoming famous | Dec 14 23:46 |
| schestowitz | some people with money try to make up for that | Dec 14 23:46 |
| schestowitz | Warren and Bill play the same game | Dec 14 23:46 |
| schestowitz | while avoiding tax | Dec 14 23:46 |
| schestowitz | getting richer | Dec 14 23:46 |
| schestowitz | promoting nasty stuff like monsanto and nukes. | Dec 14 23:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: no | Dec 14 23:46 |
| schestowitz | And so on | Dec 14 23:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | look at the saudis | Dec 14 23:47 |
| XFaCE | I thought Warren Buffet was less evil | Dec 14 23:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | they actually have solid gold cars | Dec 14 23:47 |
| schestowitz | My dad can't watch Warren without wanting to puke | Dec 14 23:47 |
| XFaCE | Diablo-D3: And we have solid gold Rush CDs | Dec 14 23:47 |
| *DaemonFC is listening to Fine Again by Saron Gas on Fragile [Amarok] | Dec 14 23:47 | |
| Diablo-D3 | I want the saudi royal family dead, honestly | Dec 14 23:47 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: they also have small wieners | Dec 14 23:47 |
| DaemonFC | CD only released in South Africa | Dec 14 23:47 |
| schestowitz | weiners | Dec 14 23:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: btw, warren buffet has bitched loudly about being forced to have to basically lie about taxes | Dec 14 23:47 |
| *XFaCE is now playing: Rush - Roll The Bones | Dec 14 23:48 | |
| schestowitz | lol | Dec 14 23:48 |
| schestowitz | poor him | Dec 14 23:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | guess what happens if he would pay his taxes legitimately? the IRS would immediately investigate him for tax fraud for _paying too much taxes_ | Dec 14 23:48 |
| schestowitz | and you bought it | Dec 14 23:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | who does that serve? | Dec 14 23:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | it doesnt serve me | Dec 14 23:48 |
| schestowitz | pr controls you | Dec 14 23:48 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Take that | Dec 14 23:48 |
| DaemonFC | I hunted for it | Dec 14 23:48 |
| schestowitz | they also whines about taxes on the rich | Dec 14 23:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | I have to pay for that multimillion dollar investigation | Dec 14 23:48 |
| schestowitz | because they pay none | Dec 14 23:48 |
| DaemonFC | found it in FLAC on some Russian website | Dec 14 23:48 |
| schestowitz | they pretend to be charitable | Dec 14 23:48 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 14 23:48 |
| schestowitz | and get exempted | Dec 14 23:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: warren buffet believes hes should be paying millions in taxes ever year | Dec 14 23:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: dude | Dec 14 23:48 |
| schestowitz | then they buy some lies in the media | Dec 14 23:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | he HAS to | Dec 14 23:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | if he doesnt, the rest of the rich take him out | Dec 14 23:48 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Russian websites are awesome in this regard | Dec 14 23:49 |
| schestowitz | which does the "official story" about their being the ones holding the economy | Dec 14 23:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | he wants tax loopholes gone forever. | Dec 14 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I created additional email accounts as aliases just to make sure I had them | Dec 14 23:49 |
| schestowitz | rather than robbing ita long with fellow oligarchs | Dec 14 23:49 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Stop talking over Diablo-D3 and listen to him | Dec 14 23:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | even bill gates who calls himself warren buffet's friend doesnt agree with it (although hes signed onto it to look good) | Dec 14 23:49 |
| schestowitz | It's just a variant of what Russian oligarchs did | Dec 14 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | if the US government seizes my email provider, I can switch over to their .ru, .co.uk, .tw, etc. ones | Dec 14 23:49 |
| schestowitz | But Russians are not as gullible | Dec 14 23:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | XFaCE: he doesnt listen to anyone | Dec 14 23:49 |
| schestowitz | !google john pilger russian hold the paper | Dec 14 23:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - John Pilger - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Pilger | Dec 14 23:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - INFORMATION CLEARING HOUSE. NEWS, COMMENTARY ... | http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/ | Dec 14 23:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Antiwar.com | http://antiwar.com/ | Dec 14 23:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - War in Afghanistan: Soviet Occupation of Afghanistan | http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp%3Ftimeline%3Dafghanwar_tmln%26afghanwar_tmln_soviet_occupation_of_afghanistan | Dec 14 23:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | he gets it into his head that everyone is evil, and its downhill from there | Dec 14 23:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | not everyone whos rich is evil | Dec 14 23:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | some are rich merely by chance | Dec 14 23:50 |
| XFaCE | Diablo-D3: Of course not, but a few bad apples spoil the tree | Dec 14 23:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | they rolled the right dice, they played the right cards, they zigged when wall street zagged | Dec 14 23:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | warren buffet is one of those guys | Dec 14 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | I use the .co.uk one for forums and mailing lists | Dec 14 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | the .ru one for personal mail | Dec 14 23:50 |
| XFaCE | Diablo-D3: Some of them cheated as well | Dec 14 23:50 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: I did listen | Dec 14 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | the .com one for sites that I buy things from | Dec 14 23:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | he doesnt live rich, he lives in a smallish house (by $42 billion standard), drives a decent car _himeslf_, and he didnt even own a plane for years | Dec 14 23:51 |
| schestowitz | but you miss some of the points about his motivation | Dec 14 23:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | and he taught his kids how to fend for themselves | Dec 14 23:51 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: I think we mean you should talk chatting while he's chatting | Dec 14 23:51 |
| XFaCE | all I see is | Dec 14 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | a lot of US shopping sites make you have a US controlled TLD for your account | Dec 14 23:51 |
| schestowitz | [23:50] <Diablo-D3> some are rich merely by chance | Dec 14 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | it's all I use that one for | Dec 14 23:51 |
| schestowitz | Few are | Dec 14 23:51 |
| schestowitz | in capitalism | Dec 14 23:51 |
| schestowitz | it's competition based | Dec 14 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | but they all go to the same inbox | Dec 14 23:51 |
| XFaCE | A: I am dog. | Dec 14 23:51 |
| XFaCE | B: | Dec 14 23:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: but is it REALLY a competition? | Dec 14 23:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | warren buffet rolled wall street ten times over. | Dec 14 23:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | they acted stupid, he profited. | Dec 14 23:52 |
| *XFaCE is now playing: Rush - Dreamline | Dec 14 23:52 | |
| DaemonFC | I tried to see if I could get an ER domain but they're not up for sale | Dec 14 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | ryan@farm.er | Dec 14 23:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | ZOMG BUSH DID SOMETHING PANIC SELL TIEM | Dec 14 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | would be nice to have | Dec 14 23:52 |
| schestowitz | at whose expense? | Dec 14 23:52 |
| *XFaCE is now playing: Rush - Where's My Thing? (Part IV, 'Gangster Of Boats' Trilogy) | Dec 14 23:52 | |
| schestowitz | he bought cheaply many companies | Dec 14 23:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: depends how you define expense | Dec 14 23:52 |
| schestowitz | it's a bartering system | Dec 14 23:52 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Where's my thing? | Dec 14 23:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | I didnt pay for it because I dont do business with wall street. | Dec 14 23:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | but someone out there was stupid enough to let wall street invest for them | Dec 14 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | John Romero gave me the idea with john@rome.ro | Dec 14 23:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | and they lost out because of it | Dec 14 23:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | Im not going to blame warren buffet for it | Dec 14 23:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | Im going to blame the greedy fuckers at places like goldman sachs | Dec 14 23:53 |
| schestowitz | hehe | Dec 14 23:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | warren buffet would have never been rich if it wasnt for them. | Dec 14 23:53 |
| schestowitz | "leave warren allllone" | Dec 14 23:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: Im assigning blame where it belongs | Dec 14 23:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | if I was warren, I would have overpaid my taxes and then mooned the IRS on national TV. | Dec 14 23:54 |
| schestowitz | ok, fair enough | Dec 14 23:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | but hes not that kind of guy | Dec 14 23:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | looking out for his own interests doesnt make him evil | Dec 14 23:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | no one wants the IRS to come fuck their shit up | Dec 14 23:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | ever see how the IRS does investigations? | Dec 14 23:54 |
| schestowitz | IRS is USian | Dec 14 23:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | they just show up one day and take every computer, every scrap of paper, everything | Dec 14 23:55 |
| schestowitz | I saw it in Tentacle | Dec 14 23:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | they even take xboxes from kids | Dec 14 23:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | yes, like xboses are used to commit tax fruad | Dec 14 23:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | they look into every transaction you've ever made | Dec 14 23:55 |
| schestowitz | good for them | Dec 14 23:55 |
| schestowitz | you pay for it | Dec 14 23:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | cant tell an IRS agent why you spent $5 at a quickmart? was it for a soda? was it for a candy bar? who knows! | Dec 14 23:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: no | Dec 14 23:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | _I_ pay for it | Dec 14 23:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | the tax payer does | Dec 14 23:56 |
| XFaCE | Diablo-D3: Makes the CRA look like a Teddy Bear by comparison | Dec 14 23:56 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Dec 14 23:56 |
| schestowitz | what I said.. | Dec 14 23:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | so no, I dont blame warren | Dec 14 23:56 |
| schestowitz | hehe | Dec 14 23:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | he doesnt want to cost me more money than Ive already paid | Dec 14 23:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | because it serves no one to be raped by the IRS | Dec 14 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | the IRS is there to be nice to the rich tax evaders and make middle class and poor people who missed paying them $20 lives a living hell | Dec 14 23:56 |
| schestowitz | they pay a fraction | Dec 14 23:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | he wants to change the system legally. | Dec 14 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | spending millions of dollars auditing and harassing them | Dec 14 23:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | and thats what hes been trying to do | Dec 14 23:57 |
| schestowitz | and get exemptions they don't deserve | Dec 14 23:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | he wants tax loopholes gone | Dec 14 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | and assessing late fees and penalties and interest | Dec 14 23:57 |
| schestowitz | he's part of that | Dec 14 23:57 |
| schestowitz | anyway, gotta sleep now | Dec 14 23:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: except | Dec 14 23:57 |
| schestowitz | midnight | Dec 14 23:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | hes paid for none of them | Dec 14 23:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | hes lobbied for none of them | Dec 14 23:57 |
| schestowitz | Bill did | Dec 14 23:57 |
| schestowitz | his buddy | Dec 14 23:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | yes, bill did | Dec 14 23:57 |
| schestowitz | abnd Bill's dad | Dec 14 23:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | but remember, the US does not recognize guilt by association | Dec 14 23:57 |
| schestowitz | he should dissociated himself from that criminal if he has tact left | Dec 14 23:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | he should, but I think honestly he doesnt care. | Dec 14 23:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | hes like 90 years old, hes done his shit in life already | Dec 14 23:58 |
| schestowitz | Today I found this one linking to techrights | Dec 14 23:58 |
| schestowitz | http://madisonamps.org/2011/12/04/alec-and-bill-gates-the-mask-comes-off/ | Dec 14 23:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | someone younger should take up the fight | Dec 14 23:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ALEC and Bill Gates, the Mask Comes Off | AMPS .::. Size~: 65.35 KB | Dec 14 23:58 |
| DaemonFC | if you claim the EITC tax credit (designed to refund poor people what they paid into Medicaid and Social Security, up to a MAXIMUM of $4,000), you quadruple your chances of being audited by the IRS | Dec 14 23:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] I am unhappy with the current state of copyright law and the attempts to gut many civil liberties to protect copyrights. Possibly with more. | Dec 14 23:58 | |
| DaemonFC | even if your claim was 100% bogus and you got $4,000 you didn't deserve....you're still just a drop in the bucket | Dec 14 23:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: I mean, if I was that rich, I wouldnt talk to anyone | Dec 14 23:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | I would fucking own a private island | Dec 14 23:59 |
| DaemonFC | and they spend all their time auditing you instead of Steve Ballmer | Dec 14 23:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | just so I wouldnt have to fucking deal with people | Dec 14 23:59 |
| XFaCE | Diablo-D3: But then again, you are loner anyway. That isn't very conclusion | Dec 14 23:59 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: they wan recognition | Dec 14 23:59 |
| XFaCE | :P | Dec 14 23:59 |
| schestowitz | not an island | Dec 14 23:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | I dont want recognition | Dec 14 23:59 |
| XFaCE | * a long | Dec 14 23:59 |
| XFaCE | a loner | Dec 14 23:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | I want people to stop fucking annoying the shit out of me | Dec 14 23:59 |
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