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MinceRthey'll try againDec 17 00:00
MinceRmaybe hold the most obviously fascist parts for the next attemptDec 17 00:00
MinceRwhen they'll go throughDec 17 00:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] #angrybirds is now a holiday special !disturbingDec 17 00:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." Matthew 15:24Dec 17 00:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them." Matthew 5:17Dec 17 00:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] #Google makes it so easy to appear scholarly.Dec 17 00:05
MinceRgnDec 17 00:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Why Firefox Isn't Doomed http://head4.me/fDec 17 00:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] I don't think crazy. Clearly he saw the established Jewish sects as corrupted, particularly by collaboration with the Roman occupation.Dec 17 00:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] He was fundamentalist in the sense of wanting to return Judaism to it's roots.Dec 17 00:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @freemjd crazy as in confusing yourself with the son of godDec 17 00:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | Why Are Beginnings So Hard? http://goo.gl/htxgaDec 17 00:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Nicole Atkins - The Tower - YouTube #music http://ur1.ca/6rh46Dec 17 00:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Daily Kos: I Must Conclude That The #NDAA 2012 Bill Is THE MOST DANGEROUS Law Ever - #usa #policestate http://goo.gl/nsNy7Dec 17 00:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] Jewish prophets were typically considered _a_ son of God. Defensible belief for iron age sheep herders, though I agree less so now.Dec 17 00:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @freemjd fascinating, never knew that bit. That actually explains a lot of how islam maintains the position that he was yet another prophetDec 17 00:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] The consensus among biblical scholars is that most of the sayings of Jesus can be pretty confidently attributed to a real human being.Dec 17 00:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] Though anything to do with miracles or fulfillment of prophesy is most likely later #Christian invention.Dec 17 00:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] The SMRT might be 1st World, but their top management is 3rd World. Sigh. #fbDec 17 00:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Nicole Atkins - The Way It Is http://ur1.ca/6rheb via @minitubeappDec 17 00:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @freemjd really interesting bit would be if jesus considered himself as just a prophet, cult sprang up after death & exxageratedDec 17 00:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] SCOTUS case: patent on statistics endangers medical care everywhere http://head4.me/gDec 17 00:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] /me wrote some crap http://ur1.ca/6rhor #shamelessselfpromotionDec 17 01:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] He may have considered himself a particularly important prophet, as the end of the world was clearly nigh. http://ur1.ca/6rhp0Dec 17 01:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] There are a lot of great books on the historical Jesus. This one is a good start: http://ur1.ca/6rhq3Dec 17 01:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Amazon.com: Jesus: The Evidence (9780895262394): Ian Wilson: Books .::. Size~: 337.42 KBDec 17 01:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @freemjd I did a while ago and ended up writing a list of the various logical errors in it, good way to kill about an hour :DDec 17 01:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Microsoft Reminds Everyone: You Do Not Own Your Software http://goo.gl/K0L7gDec 17 01:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @tekk well, just not logical errorsDec 17 01:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] How George Soros ended up with MF Global’s client money | PeterLBrandt - #crooks #usa #collapse http://goo.gl/d04rmDec 17 01:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] No, some of today's Christians give me nightmares. I have to look away to avoid getting too depressed.Dec 17 01:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @freemjd have the same issue, cfc kept away from that though, just ended up w/ awful 'proof'Dec 17 01:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] I went mad on this stuff back when I lived in a Jewish neighbourhood with a library very well stocked with religion, philosophy, & politics.Dec 17 01:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Microsoft Reminds Everyone: You Do Not Own Your Software | Techdirt http://head4.me/hDec 17 01:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] NPR on bbc america? #madness!Dec 17 01:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] 20 ounces of soda fits in an average sized can #RealDivineMysteryDec 17 02:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] dr who christmas special commercial :D(between that and firefly I will be doing nothing on christmas)Dec 17 02:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] Would you like a poster or a web badge or even a desktop background to help us promote #LCA2012? Here you go! http://bit.ly/vsGRe4Dec 17 02:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] I don't recall the #SausageScanner from the book..Dec 17 02:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @fontana clever #trollDec 17 02:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks & CCR files motion for extraordinary relief in Manning pre-trial hearing http://t.co/yEr1exDRDec 17 02:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] In honor of #NDAA, #SOPA, and other toxic-to-civil-liberties legislation, I give you the Beatles. http://is.gd/gJ13GXDec 17 02:39
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beenzyo supDec 17 02:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] alt+tab window switching in fvwm is #suboptimalDec 17 02:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] That should probably be "In response to ..."Dec 17 02:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] not just copycats; the way chat is integrated in #人人网 is so much better than #facebook !OnlyInChinaDec 17 02:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @fsf We want to do more for you! Help us raise $300k for free software by Jan 31st. http://ur1.ca/6q2iu !fsf !gnuDec 17 02:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Apple Abuses #Patent System Again To Obstruct W3C Open Standard http://goo.gl/6Ccc6Dec 17 02:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] a podcast featuring @fontana and @bkuhn reviewing bad software would be awesomeDec 17 03:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Bradley Manning hearing: defence lawyer turns fire on military accusers http://gu.com/p/34727Dec 17 03:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Carrier IQ is just the tip of the data mining iceberg. http://ur1.ca/6rl69Dec 17 03:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Former Creative Commons CEO Joi Ito on the battles faced by CC licensing. http://ur1.ca/6rlhvDec 17 04:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Bit of a departure for me, listening to Depeche Mode. #musicDec 17 04:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] RT @eff: Reports of #SOPA's death have been greatly exaggerated. Markup will resume 12/21.Dec 17 05:02
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brendnany good talk to listen to whilst cleaning?Dec 17 05:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Feds Falsely Censor Popular Blog For Over A Year, Deny All Due Process... http://ur1.ca/6ro0yDec 17 05:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Breaking News: Feds Falsely Censor Popular Blog For Over A Year, Deny All Due Process, Hide All Details... | Techdirt .::. Size~: 573.59 KBDec 17 05:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] HTC Loss in Patent Case Against Apple to Be Reviewed by U.S. http://ur1.ca/6roagDec 17 06:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] OMG even writing about ACTA is not any longer allowed http://ur1.ca/6roje who needs democracy? #wrongplanetDec 17 06:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] National Microsoft domination in Romania http://ur1.ca/6ronr #romania #microsoft #monopoly #mafia http://ur1.ca/6ronsDec 17 06:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "Garbage in garbage out" http://ur1.ca/6rpk2Dec 17 07:02
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1053098 "android is not really somthing related to the "linux philosophy" its a closed propietary system that grabs the benefits of oss"Dec 17 07:06
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oiaohmWhat??  schestowitz that person is out there.Dec 17 07:07
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1053310 "This is so cool. I want one lol"Dec 17 07:08
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schestowitzoiaohm: who?Dec 17 07:08
schestowitzBTW, just had my longest sleep in a long timeDec 17 07:08
schestowitzalthough I woke up many times throughoutDec 17 07:08
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1052437 "I know at my work, indicating in anyway that it's vegan will also work"Dec 17 07:09
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oiaohmMarius Domanowski comment.  schestowitzDec 17 07:09
oiaohmHe really has no clue what the Linux world is like.Dec 17 07:09
oiaohmAndroid is not that far out side normal.Dec 17 07:09
schestowitzyeahDec 17 07:11
schestowitzmainframes are similarDec 17 07:11
schestowitzmaybe he confuses FOSS with LinuxDec 17 07:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I have been having an 80's synthpop fest.Dec 17 07:12
oiaohmlinux philosophy is very laxDec 17 07:13
oiaohmAnd in many places not FOSSDec 17 07:13
oiaohmIe classic example Linux kernel support for loading firmwareDec 17 07:14
brendnbeen following the raspberry pi for a fair while now, always thought it was impressive and wanted to find a use for it for myselfDec 17 07:17
oiaohmbrendn: I have a plan using it for my 3d printer network interface.Dec 17 07:20
brendn3d printer! very niceDec 17 07:26
brendnIt'd be nice to by a monitor and simply stick it to the back with all the peripheralsDec 17 07:26
brendnwhat software are you planning to run on it?Dec 17 07:27
brendnbuy*Dec 17 07:28
brendnah shitDec 17 07:32
brendn"he GPU, Broadcom's Videocore IV, has capabilities equivalent to a first-gen Xbox, and has its own proprietary instruction set and architecture that is closely guarded by Broadcom; the compiler for it is not available"Dec 17 07:32
oiaohmBut broadcom does provide opengl for that.Dec 17 07:33
oiaohmbrendn: full proper OpenGL ES 2.0Dec 17 07:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 5 Years of Techrights, 30 Years of Yours Truly — Decision Time http://ur1.ca/6rqi3 #techrightsDec 17 07:37
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DaemonFCit's as free and open as any kernel that runs on such a large range of hardware tends to beDec 17 07:39
DaemonFCif you want to kill 90% of your hardware support you can use Linux LibreDec 17 07:39
DaemonFCand if you want to kill more still, use HURD or somethingDec 17 07:39
brendni do use linux-libreDec 17 07:39
DaemonFCI agree with Fedora and OpenBSD about firmwareDec 17 07:40
DaemonFCthey treat them as content, not softwareDec 17 07:40
brendni hardly even understand firmware ;Dec 17 07:40
brendnpDec 17 07:40
DaemonFCas long as they are freely redistributable, it does not matter if they are binary blobs or notDec 17 07:40
brendnwhy is this?Dec 17 07:41
DaemonFCbecause they're essentially just part of the hardware they run onDec 17 07:41
schestowitzhmmmm... all the site's page work except the front page of the wiki, which isstrangeDec 17 07:42
schestowitzMaybe a magpierss failDec 17 07:43
DaemonFCthe firmware for a piece of hardware makes no sense outside of the context of the particular hardware it runs onDec 17 07:43
DaemonFCremoving it kills hardware support you'd otherwise haveDec 17 07:43
DaemonFCit's not part of LinuxDec 17 07:43
DaemonFCit's not running as software on your CPUDec 17 07:43
schestowitzBut then again, this works ok http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Articles_indexDec 17 07:43
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brendncan drm stuff be done in firmware?Dec 17 07:44
DaemonFCI'm not aware of any DRM that depends on the firmware itselfDec 17 07:44
DaemonFCif there's any DRM, it's usually in the driverDec 17 07:45
DaemonFCLinux developers make more compromises for hardware support than OpenBSD doesDec 17 07:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | Who Is Actually "Putting A Relationship At Risk"? http://goo.gl/KbbRj #Wikileaks #Manning #ClintonDec 17 07:45
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DaemonFCeven if you don't consider firmware at allDec 17 07:45
DaemonFCLinux developers sometimes sign NDAs for programming manuals for hardwareDec 17 07:46
DaemonFCwhich is something OpenBSD has always refused to doDec 17 07:46
oiaohmbrendn: a true solid digital right management would not be using firmware users can load.Dec 17 07:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Chrome refuses to do spellchecking for some reason, don't really want to have to switch to #Firefox just for that final step before postingDec 17 07:47
oiaohmDaemonFC: TPM in bios but that is not a user loadable firmware normally.Dec 17 07:48
DaemonFCDRM is too complex to be put thereDec 17 07:48
oiaohmDaemonFC: Ie bios is a firmwareDec 17 07:48
brendni suppose i need to learn what they actually doDec 17 07:48
DaemonFCwell, I have a TPM, but I don't use it for anythingDec 17 07:48
DaemonFCLinux recognizes it and has a driver for itDec 17 07:48
oiaohmDaemonFC: TPM is a form of end user controlled Digital rights management.Dec 17 07:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] About to watch "Burn Notice", yes, I am that boredDec 17 07:49
oiaohmDigital rights management is only bad if you don't control it.Dec 17 07:49
DaemonFCwell, it's meant to control the userDec 17 07:49
DaemonFCnot to be controlled by the userDec 17 07:49
DaemonFCit's meant specifically to remove the PC from the user's controlDec 17 07:49
amarsh04back in a few, loading kernel 3.2.0-rc6Dec 17 07:50
DaemonFCSysinfo for 'ryan-MS-7501': Linux 3.2.0-4-generic running KDE Development Platform 4.7.4 (4.7.4), CPU: AMDPhenomIIX4945 at 3000 MHz (5987 bogomips), HD: 29/923GB, RAM: 2443/7986MB, 175 proc's, 2.30h upDec 17 07:50
brendnmy bios sucks, it takes about 5 seconds to get past it, about half the time it takes to boot the osDec 17 07:50
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oiaohmDaemonFC: Digital rights management when it was first design was design to stop viruses and infections.Dec 17 07:50
oiaohmDaemonFC: media companies what to abuse it.Dec 17 07:50
DaemonFCmine beeps a few times, does the POST screen, and a few seconds later, I see the GRUB menuDec 17 07:50
brendnwhat distro are you using?>Dec 17 07:50
oiaohmDaemonFC: and of course media companies don't want to give users the control.Dec 17 07:51
DaemonFCKubuntuDec 17 07:51
brendninterestingDec 17 07:51
oiaohmbrendn: what are you using.  I am kinda old school running debian testing mostly at the momement.Dec 17 07:55
brendnparabolaDec 17 07:55
oiaohmNote I do mean oldschoolDec 17 07:55
brendnwhy?Dec 17 07:55
oiaohmthe last clean install on this machine was over 10 years ago.Dec 17 07:55
brendni think debian is the most rspectable big distroDec 17 07:56
oiaohmDebian and redhat are about the two oldest.Dec 17 07:56
oiaohmwith sane package managers.Dec 17 07:56
DaemonFCGraphics Feature StatusDec 17 07:56
DaemonFCCanvas: Hardware acceleratedDec 17 07:56
DaemonFCHTML Rendering: Hardware acceleratedDec 17 07:56
DaemonFC3D CSS: Hardware acceleratedDec 17 07:56
DaemonFCWebGL: Hardware acceleratedDec 17 07:56
DaemonFCWebGL multisampling: Hardware acceleratedDec 17 07:56
DaemonFCsweetDec 17 07:56
oiaohmOf of cause the is slackware in the old camp as well.Dec 17 07:57
DaemonFCChrome's GPU driver blocklist is whackyDec 17 08:00
brendnhttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f6/Gldt1106.svgDec 17 08:00
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schestowitzAh, fixed itDec 17 08:00
schestowitzit was indeed magpierss.... could see this when diagnosing the logsDec 17 08:00
DaemonFCI always end up overriding it and haven't had a single problem yetDec 17 08:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] my #2012 wishlist 1. PerspectiveDec 17 08:05
schestowitzDaemonFC: when you reach 30 Dawn will shave your back for free :-pDec 17 08:08
DaemonFChttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Order_No._11_(1862)Dec 17 08:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] #Linux #kernel 3.2-rc6 http://bit.ly/vSf3yf "[…] things do seem to be calming down. […] we'll probably have the real 3.2 around new years."Dec 17 08:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels nowDec 17 08:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels nowDec 17 08:22
schestowitzblech http://lifehacker.com/5868759/the-best-music-player-application-for-linuxDec 17 08:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] FCC doles out $100K to open source community apps challenge winners http://is.gd/IFbRH5 #fccDec 17 08:30
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brendncant even read it without javascriptDec 17 08:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #PearOS #Linux Panther 3 screenshot preview http://ur1.ca/6rrx9Dec 17 08:32
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DaemonFChttp://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-57344507-281/internet-is-for-porn-pops-up-during-house-sopa-debate/Dec 17 08:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 'Internet is for Porn' pops up during House SOPA debate | Privacy Inc. - CNET News .::. Size~: 80.69 KBDec 17 08:34
DaemonFC"Rep. Jared Polis, who entered the complete lyrics of "The Internet is for Porn" into the official record of the SOPA debate"Dec 17 08:34
DaemonFCJared Polis is officially my favorite person for the whole dayDec 17 08:34
DaemonFC:)Dec 17 08:34
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-TA57L0kucDec 17 08:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Internet is for porn avenue Q original - Video       - YouTube .::. Size~: 128.09 KBDec 17 08:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Screencast: #PearOS Linux 3.0 "Panther" for Mac OS X fans http://ur1.ca/6rs2cDec 17 08:37
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*DaemonFC is listening to Sultans Of Swing by Dire Straits on Sultans of Swing: The Very Best Of Dire Straits [Amarok]Dec 17 08:44
*DaemonFC is listening to Money For Nothing by Dire Straits on Sultans of Swing: The Very Best Of Dire Straits [Amarok]Dec 17 08:51
DaemonFC:PDec 17 08:51
DaemonFChehDec 17 08:51
*DaemonFC is listening to Out Of Touch by Hall & Oates on Big Bam Boom [Amarok]Dec 17 08:55
DaemonFCgot this whole album just because this song was in Vice CityDec 17 08:55
DaemonFC:PDec 17 08:55
*DaemonFC is listening to Come as You Are by Nirvana on MTV Unplugged in New York [Amarok]Dec 17 08:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Where did the morning go? Afternoon benders! !tzag !identiverseDec 17 09:05
*DaemonFC is listening to I Can't Decide by Scissor Sisters on Ta-Dah (FLAC) [Amarok]Dec 17 09:06
DaemonFCDoctor WhoDec 17 09:06
brendngonna watch the newly found episode :p?Dec 17 09:07
DaemonFCOh, I could throw you in the lakeDec 17 09:08
DaemonFCOr feed you poisoned birthday cakeDec 17 09:08
DaemonFCI won't deny, I'm gonna miss you when you're goneDec 17 09:08
DaemonFCOh, I could bury you aliveDec 17 09:08
DaemonFCBut you might crawl out with a knifeDec 17 09:08
DaemonFCAnd kill me when I'm sleepingDec 17 09:08
DaemonFCThat's whyDec 17 09:08
DaemonFCI can't decide whether you should live or dieDec 17 09:08
DaemonFC;)Dec 17 09:08
DaemonFCheheDec 17 09:08
DaemonFCI did send a link to that on Youtube for one of my exes Dec 17 09:09
DaemonFCwhen he sent me an unsolicited emailDec 17 09:09
*DaemonFC is listening to I'm with Stupid by Pet Shop Boys on Ultimate [Amarok]Dec 17 09:10
DaemonFCalso a good one for exesDec 17 09:10
*DaemonFC is listening to Television Rules the Nation / Crescendolls by Daft Punk on Alive 2007: Deluxe Edition [Amarok]Dec 17 09:15
DaemonFCMinceR seems to like that oneDec 17 09:16
brendni just found this spot in my flat where there is honestly up to 3cm of dustDec 17 09:16
brendnthick grey misty fluffDec 17 09:16
*DaemonFC is listening to Stairway To Heaven by Led Zeppelin on Boxed Set [Disc 2] [Amarok]Dec 17 09:19
DaemonFCChristians still claim that song has Satanic backmaskingDec 17 09:19
brendnit does! it does!Dec 17 09:19
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_69yvFZH9UDec 17 09:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bill Hicks - Satan In Music       - YouTube .::. Size~: 122.58 KBDec 17 09:20
brendnits called rock n rollDec 17 09:20
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n16PpvdpMXo&feature=relatedDec 17 09:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Christianity in a nutshell       - YouTube .::. Size~: 126.15 KBDec 17 09:24
brendnlol.. i get given a free jug because it drips, so i spend 10 seconds cutting a groove into the spout to stop the water running down it and now how a perfectly functional jug.Dec 17 09:26
brendni believe some got onto a show here called 'the new inventors' for coming up with the idea and calling it the non-drop tea potDec 17 09:27
brendndrip*Dec 17 09:27
DaemonFChow dare you make something! you're infringing someone's patent you thief!Dec 17 09:30
DaemonFCTHIEF!Dec 17 09:30
DaemonFCZOMGTHIEF!Dec 17 09:30
*DaemonFC is listening to Voodoo by Godsmack (eponymous) [Amarok]Dec 17 09:33
brendnim sorry, im a filthy criminalDec 17 09:33
DaemonFCI'm a filthier oneDec 17 09:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Former Tunisian Regime Goes Beyond Spying On Internet Traffic... To Rewriting Emails & More - http://bit.ly/sbf9on now that's sneakyDec 17 09:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Former Tunisian Regime Goes Beyond Spying On Internet Traffic... To Rewriting Emails & More | Techdirt .::. Size~: 48.08 KBDec 17 09:34
DaemonFCthe more self-sufficient you manage to be, the more of a "criminal" you're painted asDec 17 09:34
DaemonFCright down to being raided by the ATF and IRS for claiming you can own weapons and landDec 17 09:35
DaemonFC:)Dec 17 09:35
DaemonFCthat reminds me of Gonad The Barbarian saying I was a filthy faggot and I calmly replied "No, I'm a clean one. Wanna smell?"Dec 17 09:36
DaemonFC:)Dec 17 09:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Do We Really Have to Prepare for the Fourth Box? - http://bit.ly/rMfL7G sombre but important thoughts from Rick FalkvingeDec 17 09:37
brendnlol whats this raid story>?Dec 17 09:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Do We Really Have To Prepare For The Fourth Box? - Falkvinge on Infopolicy .::. Size~: 286.82 KBDec 17 09:37
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p5jnqEyUs4&feature=relatedDec 17 09:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Family Guy: If Christianity Never Existed       - YouTube .::. Size~: 123.68 KBDec 17 09:43
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb4AZpsHrkc&feature=relatedDec 17 09:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Family Guy - Touched by An Angel       - YouTube .::. Size~: 125.98 KBDec 17 09:46
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74K1ZbMBL0I&feature=relatedDec 17 09:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Angel Peter shoots Devil Peter       - YouTube .::. Size~: 123.93 KBDec 17 09:49
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NLYlLHMXi4&feature=relatedDec 17 09:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Angel Stuck in Traffic       - YouTube .::. Size~: 119.09 KBDec 17 09:49
brendni wish i was born in the futureDec 17 09:50
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKIKKXm6Mlk&feature=relatedDec 17 09:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Black Jesus - Family Guy       - YouTube .::. Size~: 131.87 KBDec 17 09:51
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taih2zUOmIM&feature=relatedDec 17 09:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Family Guy Moses and Jesus Fight The Romans       - YouTube .::. Size~: 128.38 KBDec 17 09:52
brendnnaw second last one needs flashDec 17 09:52
schestowitzfront page of TR is acting up today, repeatedlyDec 17 10:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] This made my day: http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMzM3MDA2NTI=.html #Chinlish #InglessDec 17 10:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 黄晓明-one world one dream - 视频 - 优酷视频 - 在线观看 .::. Size~: 59.37 KBDec 17 10:04
*brendn secretly runs win xp in a vmDec 17 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Apple Abuses #Patent System Again To Obstruct W3C Open Standard - http://bit.ly/sLjHFp going for leadership in evilDec 17 10:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple Abuses Patent System Again To Obstruct W3C Open Standard | Techdirt .::. Size~: 62.32 KBDec 17 10:10
schestowitzDaemonFC: good Hicks vidsDec 17 10:11
brendnLADIES AND GENTLEMEN.... STEVE BALLMER!!!!!. C'MON!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOO WOOOOO C'MON WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODec 17 10:20
DaemonFCREVERSI!Dec 17 10:25
DaemonFCFUCK YEAH!Dec 17 10:25
brendnhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVTU5PxN3AsDec 17 10:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Steve Ballmer sells Windows 7       - YouTube .::. Size~: 125.28 KBDec 17 10:27
brendnbsod lol ;pDec 17 10:27
DaemonFChttp://dev.opera.com/articles/view/64-bit-opera-and-out-of-process-plug-ins/Dec 17 10:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Christmas at Opera Labs: 64-bit Opera, and out-of-process plug-ins - Dev.Opera .::. Size~: 40.73 KBDec 17 10:29
DaemonFC"We fixed this problem for Opera on Linux and FreeBSD a long time ago"Dec 17 10:29
DaemonFC:)Dec 17 10:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] someone should do an #Apple silouette poster with the outlines of various dictators....all wearing #iPods with the white earbuds + wireDec 17 10:39
DaemonFChttp://www.mega-nerd.com/erikd/Blog/CodeHacking/osx_ub.htmlDec 17 10:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: m3ga blog .::. Size~: 14.12 KBDec 17 10:41
DaemonFClolDec 17 10:41
brendnJUST 99 DOLLARZ1 (or 199 for the enterprise version, which is actually the same thing with a few restrictions removed!!!!!!!)Dec 17 10:41
*brendn throws a chair at DaemonFCDec 17 10:44
schestowitzwhoa, calm downDec 17 10:45
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_69yvFZH9UDec 17 10:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bill Hicks - Satan In Music       - YouTube .::. Size~: 123.5 KBDec 17 10:45
brendnnot amusedDec 17 10:48
scienteswhat shouold i do with my life?Dec 17 10:48
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZnEpaSOFwk&feature=relatedDec 17 10:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bill Hicks Talks About Crime In England       - YouTube .::. Size~: 125.62 KBDec 17 10:48
schestowitzscientes: use it upDec 17 10:48
scientesi think i want to go to uniDec 17 10:49
scientesand do general studiesDec 17 10:49
scienteswhile also doing country stuff, argro, you knowDec 17 10:49
brendnbecome rich exploiting peopleDec 17 10:49
brendnits totally hilariousDec 17 10:49
scientesand the hardest would be showDec 17 10:49
scientes*shopDec 17 10:49
scientesor whatever they call it in collegeDec 17 10:50
scientesi am not good at thatDec 17 10:50
scientesbut would probably be invaluableDec 17 10:50
scientesalso , maybe construction industry workDec 17 10:50
scientesthat would be betterDec 17 10:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Create Subway Maps with jQuery Plugin - http://rww.to/syg1Yk amazing power & durability of Tube map designDec 17 10:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Create Subway Maps with jQuery Plugin .::. Size~: 39.4 KBDec 17 10:50
scientesi like working in computers the same way i work on wikipediaDec 17 10:51
scientes'exploring and fixing up along the wayDec 17 10:51
scientesand i wonder how i can adapt that to actually doing some substansial contributioinsDec 17 10:51
scienteswhat have you contributed?Dec 17 10:51
scientesi know you did stuff on the old SuSe before getting pissedDec 17 10:51
scientesthat way is the most personally rewarding, fixing your own problems, but maybe i can both make it payDec 17 10:52
scientesand make the transition/hiring funDec 17 10:53
scientesbrendn, lolDec 17 10:53
scientestoo many people doing thatDec 17 10:53
scientesalso karmas a bitchDec 17 10:53
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXKK5U3ihwc&feature=relatedDec 17 10:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bill Hicks in London talking about LA       - YouTube .::. Size~: 124.17 KBDec 17 10:53
brendnit also doesn't exist, so no biggyDec 17 10:54
scientesok, it is risky, they might figure out what you are doingDec 17 10:54
scientesand then you realize you have no skills, except in (tom)fooleryDec 17 10:54
brendnthen you kill themDec 17 10:55
scientesbut you are unable to support yourselfDec 17 10:55
scientesyou realize that self-determination is a full-time job?Dec 17 10:56
brendnself-determination?Dec 17 10:56
scientesyou can only survive, by maintaining parasitical modeDec 17 10:56
scientesand obstensibly fighting off the other parasitesDec 17 10:56
scientesthats actually what most of society seems to beDec 17 10:56
brendnyou don't need to be nastyDec 17 10:57
scientesparasites competing over who can fuck up the planet, or human's ability to live on it, fasterDec 17 10:57
scientesparasites tend to be chaffed off in a recessionDec 17 10:57
scientesyou can only parasite off a boat that is floating, and before it becomes unseaworthyDec 17 10:58
brendnthen you whip them until they grind the barnicles from the deck with blocks of concreteDec 17 10:58
brendntrue that that was doneDec 17 10:59
DaemonFCThe usable browsers that aren't strongly tied to a particular platform and have a huge development team behind them are now are Chrome/Chromium, Opera, and SeamonkeyDec 17 10:59
brendnmakes me feel like a pussy whining about getting a sore arm cleaning the ceilingDec 17 10:59
DaemonFCand if you demand open source, Chromium or SeamonkeyDec 17 10:59
DaemonFCthe pickings are getting rather slim if all you want is something that's not incompetent Dec 17 10:59
scientesbrendn, not only in the metaphorical senseDec 17 11:00
brendni suppose ive already tied myself to a platformDec 17 11:00
scienteswhats your platform brendn ?Dec 17 11:00
brendnyou dont need to be obnoxiousDec 17 11:00
DaemonFCI wonder if there's anyone left working on Mozilla Firefox that has an original thought in their headDec 17 11:00
brendngnu/loonixDec 17 11:00
scientesDaemonFC, whats wrong with firefox?Dec 17 11:00
DaemonFCor if they all agree that they need a bad copy of ChromeDec 17 11:00
scientesi use itDec 17 11:00
scientesmozilla invented tabs, and bunch of other stuffDec 17 11:01
brendninvented tabs?Dec 17 11:01
DaemonFCSeamonkey is pre-CADTDec 17 11:01
scientesok, im wrongDec 17 11:01
DaemonFCSeamonkey has always had tabsDec 17 11:01
DaemonFCMozilla Suite existed before FirefoxDec 17 11:02
DaemonFChad tabs since what? 0.9?Dec 17 11:02
brendni think thats about as credit worthy as my boiling jug modDec 17 11:02
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NFHU1X1PED4Dec 17 11:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bill Hicks talking about Drugs       - YouTube .::. Size~: 131.62 KBDec 17 11:02
scientesbrendn, that is a platform worth tying yourself tooDec 17 11:02
DaemonFCthey need to lay off the drugs at MozillaDec 17 11:02
DaemonFCtheir hundreds of lines of code to fuck the address bar is enough for meDec 17 11:03
DaemonFC:)Dec 17 11:03
brendnscientes: huh?Dec 17 11:03
scientesand its quite minimal, with systemd it will really just be linux/systemd/gccDec 17 11:03
scientesat the lolwest levelDec 17 11:03
DaemonFCit's somewhere between harmlessly pointless and Microsoft's Hello.c for Windows 1.0Dec 17 11:03
scientesmultiseat is coming back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Dec 17 11:03
scientes(i'm excited)Dec 17 11:03
brendnwhat platform is this? i cant find where you mentioned itDec 17 11:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Small Entertainment Web Site Fears #SOPA Will Cause It To Shut Down... But ICE Can Already Shut It - http://bit.ly/swopGT all about controlDec 17 11:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Small Entertainment Web Site Fears SOPA Will Cause It To Shut Down... But ICE Can Already Shut It Down | Techdirt .::. Size~: 65.97 KBDec 17 11:04
scienteslinux/systemd/gcc/libc(eglibc, lol drepper)Dec 17 11:04
scientesbrendn, just check out systemd, which will soon replace sysvinit and upstartd everywhereDec 17 11:05
brendni watched a video on itDec 17 11:05
DaemonFCCADT design has me screaming things like "Just show me the fucking URL to assclowns!"Dec 17 11:05
DaemonFC:)Dec 17 11:05
DaemonFC*youDec 17 11:05
brendnhow soon?Dec 17 11:05
scientesit will seperate out dependance on bash and coreutils Dec 17 11:06
scientesor at least much of coreutilsDec 17 11:06
brendnwhy is this?Dec 17 11:06
scientesno init scriptsDec 17 11:07
brendninit scripts are just bash scripts?Dec 17 11:07
scientesjustDec 17 11:07
scientes*yesDec 17 11:07
scientesthats a big reason why boot is so damn slowDec 17 11:07
scientesthe first systemd blog post mentions itDec 17 11:07
DaemonFCif what particular init framework a distribution is using is your deciding factor, go out and get some sunDec 17 11:07
DaemonFCvitamin D deficiency can kill youDec 17 11:08
DaemonFC:)Dec 17 11:08
scientesDaemonFC, lolDec 17 11:08
brendnyou only need a few minutes of sunDec 17 11:08
scientesDaemonFC, it will bring back multiseatDec 17 11:08
brendn[citation needed]Dec 17 11:08
brendni wonder how quickly arch will jump onto itDec 17 11:09
DaemonFCthe only problem I've ever had with sysvinit is that it is slowDec 17 11:09
DaemonFCboth upstart and systemd take care of that problemDec 17 11:09
scientesupstart is _boring_Dec 17 11:09
scientesbut systemd is coolDec 17 11:09
DaemonFCthough systemd added a truckload of things that are not something I give a shit aboutDec 17 11:09
DaemonFCthe double forking thing is so petty I can't believe they even brought it upDec 17 11:10
brendni was going to use a little distro like slitaz for quick booting to do simple things but it ended up being pointless since i can boot in 10 seconds + 5 second bios timeDec 17 11:10
scienteswut about the fake dbus pipesDec 17 11:10
DaemonFCit's almost like they were trying to justify themselves to people who don't give a shitDec 17 11:10
DaemonFC:)Dec 17 11:10
scientesmeh, its cleanerDec 17 11:11
DaemonFCit's like saying you need a new car because yours has a few door dingsDec 17 11:12
scientesand if linux wan;t already rock stable, would stop-gap thingsDec 17 11:12
brendnwell we dont have to pay for the new car DaemonFC ;]Dec 17 11:12
scientesniceDec 17 11:12
DaemonFCI think changing parts of the system like this do more harm in the long runDec 17 11:13
scientesFALSEDec 17 11:13
scientessystemd is init done rightDec 17 11:13
DaemonFCideally it is sysvinit compatible, but now you have thousands of lines of code that nobody has testedDec 17 11:13
brendnwhy?Dec 17 11:13
DaemonFCand I've ran into some perfectly valid sysvinit things that don't work at all under systemdDec 17 11:13
DaemonFCso I'm highly skeptical of its claims to compatibilityDec 17 11:13
DaemonFCthey do however work with upstartDec 17 11:14
scientestroll...Dec 17 11:14
DaemonFCyou know, maybe they do fix systemd one dayDec 17 11:14
DaemonFCthat's not the pointDec 17 11:14
DaemonFCit's more...CADTDec 17 11:14
brendncadt?Dec 17 11:14
scientesi havn';t used a non-template init scriptDec 17 11:14
DaemonFChttp://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.htmlDec 17 11:14
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 403 ForbiddenDec 17 11:14
DaemonFCI'm so totally impressed at this Way New Development Paradigm. Let's call it the "Cascade of Attention-Deficit Teenagers" model, or "CADT" for short.Dec 17 11:15
DaemonFCIt hardly seems worth even having a bug system if the frequency of from-scratch rewrites always outstrips the pace of bug fixing. Why not be honest and resign yourself to the fact that version 0.8 is followed by version 0.8, which is then followed by version 0.8?Dec 17 11:15
DaemonFC:)Dec 17 11:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @glynmoody #Apple Abuses #Patent System Again To Obstruct W3C Open Standard - http://bit.ly/sLjHFp going for leadership in evilDec 17 11:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @glynmoody Former Tunisian Regime Goes Beyond Spying On Internet Traffic... To Rewriting Emails & More - http://bit.ly/sbf9on now tha ...Dec 17 11:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple Abuses Patent System Again To Obstruct W3C Open Standard | Techdirt .::. Size~: 65.83 KBDec 17 11:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Former Tunisian Regime Goes Beyond Spying On Internet Traffic... To Rewriting Emails & More | Techdirt .::. Size~: 48.08 KBDec 17 11:15
DaemonFCit wouldn't surprise me if someone tomorrow claimed that they found something that is theoretically better than Pulseaudio Dec 17 11:16
DaemonFCso then all the distributions get rid of that like they did the esound daemonDec 17 11:16
DaemonFCand we go through another 4-5 years of hellDec 17 11:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @exador23 !q The essence of fanaticism is that it has almost no tolerance for any data that do not confirm its own point of view. htt ...Dec 17 11:17
DaemonFCfrom scratch rewrites just means a bad user experience because instead of using something that has been beaten into shape, you just throw it all out every few years and start overDec 17 11:17
DaemonFCso there's always something on the system that is alpha or beta quality codeDec 17 11:17
brendnalarming, i certainly dont want years of pain transitioning to a new program thats so important, but i also dont want to stallDec 17 11:18
*scientes has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)Dec 17 11:18
DaemonFCyou spend years writing hundreds of thousands of lines of codeDec 17 11:18
DaemonFCfixing bugsDec 17 11:18
DaemonFCwriting hundreds of pages of documentation on itDec 17 11:18
DaemonFCthen you throw it all out one day because it strikes you that it could be doing this, this, and thatDec 17 11:19
DaemonFCand even though they're not critical features, the fact that yours doesn't do them is the factor that makes you decide to start all over and never get anywhereDec 17 11:19
DaemonFCbecause once you get another few hundred thousand lines of codeDec 17 11:20
DaemonFCyears of documentation and bug fixingDec 17 11:20
DaemonFCsomething else that it's not doing that might not be all that important will hit youDec 17 11:20
DaemonFCthat's what Zawinski meant by accepting that 0.8 is followed by 0.8 and then 0.8Dec 17 11:20
DaemonFCupstart wasn't meant to be as ambitious as systemd because they just wanted to fix the major issues of sysvinit without making everyone start over and making years of documentation useless and putting in tons of features that few people will use that will need supporting until the end of time...Dec 17 11:22
DaemonFCI can see a certain appeal in just tackling the really ugly and in your face issuesDec 17 11:22
DaemonFCother distributions seem to be going with systemd because it's just the latest thing they can latch onto and let Red Hat do all the workDec 17 11:25
brendnare there any rewrites you approve of?Dec 17 11:28
DaemonFCsureDec 17 11:28
DaemonFCreplacing X is one of themDec 17 11:28
DaemonFCThey'd have to try to fuck something up worse than X11Dec 17 11:29
DaemonFCit's almost 30 years oldDec 17 11:29
brendndoes mac use x?Dec 17 11:29
DaemonFCit spent most of its life controlled by hardware companies hiding behind a consortium Dec 17 11:29
DaemonFCit's still maintained as over 100 components with their own release cycleDec 17 11:30
brendnis wayland good?Dec 17 11:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why is it so easy to save the banks – but so hard to save the biosphere? - http://bit.ly/u1pKCH great question (v @mbauwens)Dec 17 11:30
DaemonFCdistributions are supposed to find particular versions of every one of those components that seem to work and hope they don't conflict with each other since no matter how you roll the dice, you're using a barely tested configurationDec 17 11:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why is it so easy to save the banks – but so hard to save the biosphere? | George Monbiot  | Environment | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 273.53 KBDec 17 11:30
DaemonFCno, Mac OS X has never used X11 as the display serverDec 17 11:31
DaemonFCit uses QuartzDec 17 11:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] New Scientist TV: World's fastest cells race for the first time http://ow.ly/7YUayDec 17 11:32
DaemonFChttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartz_(graphics_layer)Dec 17 11:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: New Scientist TV: World's fastest cells race for the first time .::. Size~: 59.42 KBDec 17 11:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Quartz (graphics layer) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 48.01 KBDec 17 11:32
DaemonFCthere's a rootless X server that's based on the X.org server which they use to provide compatibilityDec 17 11:32
DaemonFChttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X11.appDec 17 11:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: X11.app - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 51.43 KBDec 17 11:33
DaemonFCa lot of the improvements in X.org are from old code they are deletingDec 17 11:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @unseenstudio: like a wild haggis in hunting season, we're onto episode 3 of #Crivins http://goo.gl/jyCi8 #ccmusic #LinuxDec 17 11:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Crivins Episode 3 | Unseen Studio Audiocasts .::. Size~: 22.71 KBDec 17 11:35
DaemonFCa recent example was code that has been broken since it was XFree86Dec 17 11:35
DaemonFCto allow the server to run on WIndows 95Dec 17 11:36
DaemonFC:)Dec 17 11:36
brendninteresting.Dec 17 11:36
brendnso do you know if wayland is the thing fixing this problem?Dec 17 11:36
DaemonFCWayland seems to be similar to QuartzDec 17 11:36
DaemonFConly Wayland is free and open source softwareDec 17 11:37
DaemonFCand Quartz is part of OS X and proprietaryDec 17 11:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @glynmoody Do We Really Have to Prepare for the Fourth Box? - http://bit.ly/rMfL7G sombre but important thoughts from Rick FalkvingeDec 17 11:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Do We Really Have To Prepare For The Fourth Box? - Falkvinge on Infopolicy .::. Size~: 290.35 KBDec 17 11:37
DaemonFChttp://www.mega-nerd.com/erikd/Blog/CodeHacking/libsndfile/malware.htmlDec 17 11:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: m3ga blog .::. Size~: 10.69 KBDec 17 11:45
DaemonFCgeezDec 17 11:46
DaemonFChttp://www.mega-nerd.com/erikd/Blog/CodeHacking/Embedded/intel_graphics_fail.htmlDec 17 11:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: m3ga blog .::. Size~: 10.54 KBDec 17 11:47
brendnniceDec 17 11:48
DaemonFC"Inside that tarball there are a bunch of Xorg library binaries (for several different versions of Xorg), a large chunk of source code that gets compiled into the Linux kernel and even better yet, a couple of Microsoft Visual Studio project files. WTF?"Dec 17 11:48
DaemonFCWell, that's Intel for youDec 17 11:49
DaemonFChe forgot to mention the best partDec 17 11:49
DaemonFCthose blobs are 32-bit onlyDec 17 11:49
DaemonFCno 64-bit x86 support at allDec 17 11:49
DaemonFCthe open source support for Poulsbo has gotten to the point where if you're using Linux 3.2 already even though it's not released yet, you get a KMS driver with no acceleration at allDec 17 11:50
DaemonFC2d or 3dDec 17 11:50
DaemonFCotherwise you get the 32-bit only proprietary "What the fuck is this shit" Intel Poulsbo tarballDec 17 11:51
brendnjesus lordDec 17 11:51
DaemonFCit gets better stillDec 17 11:52
DaemonFCthe  32-bit only proprietary "What the fuck is this shit" Intel Poulsbo tarball only works with X.org server 1.9 or older (it's on 1.11)Dec 17 11:52
DaemonFCand the last kernel that I've heard of it working with is Linux 2.6.32Dec 17 11:52
DaemonFC:)Dec 17 11:53
*amarsh04 (~amarsh04@2001:44b8:61::17) has joined #techrightsDec 17 11:53
brendnim amazed it ever ranDec 17 11:53
brendnto install your graphics card, please install wine, and then kill your selfDec 17 11:53
DaemonFCPoulsbo was designed around WindowsDec 17 11:53
DaemonFCIntel licensed itDec 17 11:54
brendnchipDec 17 11:54
DaemonFCImagination Technologies is the one that designed itDec 17 11:54
DaemonFCnot IntelDec 17 11:54
DaemonFCit was done to make sure it was almost impossible to replace Windows XP with Linux on an Intel-based netbookDec 17 11:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Solid state batteries > http://nd.gd/gj via @theeconomist /cc @nj3ma @kelzOKO @fredmanglis @dennismungai @mwanikigreen @mosesmutukuDec 17 11:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Solid-state batteries: The power of the press | The Economist .::. Size~: 71.56 KBDec 17 11:56
DaemonFCif anyone ever does get it working right in Linux, the hardware itself only supports up to OpenGL 2.1Dec 17 11:57
brendnit must be a real talent to be able to go up to your programmer and say hey! id like you…Dec 17 11:57
brendnso they distribute a package for fedora fully knowing its essentially a prankDec 17 11:57
DaemonFCoh no, it will work on Fedora 10Dec 17 11:58
DaemonFCwhich is long since out of supportDec 17 11:58
DaemonFC:)Dec 17 11:58
DaemonFCif you spend enough hours fucking with itDec 17 11:58
DaemonFCand maybe get luckyDec 17 11:58
DaemonFC:DDec 17 11:58
DaemonFCPoulsbo is still a High Priority project according to the FSF Dec 17 11:59
brendnno idea what it even isDec 17 11:59
DaemonFCHigh Priority means they sit their with their thumb up their ass and claim they had a hand in it if someone ends up implementing anythingDec 17 11:59
DaemonFC:)Dec 17 11:59
DaemonFCbetter advice is avoid buying the hardwareDec 17 12:00
brendnnawDec 17 12:00
brendnfsf do that?Dec 17 12:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @jonkulp I love shell scripts.Dec 17 12:00
DaemonFCthey don't actually seem to contribute anything to those projectsDec 17 12:02
DaemonFCwhich might explain why very few of them are ever startedDec 17 12:02
DaemonFCwell, there's GNASHDec 17 12:03
DaemonFCthat's on the slow road to nowhere even though it's primarily an FSF projectDec 17 12:04
brendnconsidering that the devs working on it hate flashDec 17 12:04
brendnso ive been toldDec 17 12:05
DaemonFCLightspark has made more progress in the last year than GNASH has made in its entire existence Dec 17 12:05
DaemonFCmost of what GNASH is capable of rendering is so old it's not even used anymoreDec 17 12:05
DaemonFCand so Lightspark doesn't even bother implementing itDec 17 12:06
DaemonFC(Lightspark can chainload GNASH though, should you need Flash <8 support though)Dec 17 12:06
brendnlightspark works better than gnash?Dec 17 12:07
brendnuh http://sourceforge.net/projects/lightspark/files/Dec 17 12:07
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DaemonFCwrong siteDec 17 12:08
DaemonFCtehy moved to bazaar on launchpadDec 17 12:08
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1053098Dec 17 12:10
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schestowitz"Dec 17 12:10
schestowitz@Jaro, you are right : we're not done with Java.Dec 17 12:10
schestowitzBut the issue with Java isn't about the Java virtual machine you use ; it's about the fact that Java is everywhere even though it's a dirty language. It's as hard as C++, does less, needs to be compiled AND run in a virtual machine.Dec 17 12:10
schestowitzIf you need performance, use C++.Dec 17 12:10
schestowitzIf you need easy and fast programming, use Python :)Dec 17 12:10
schestowitz(And by the way, "saying Java is nice because it's multi-plateform is just like saying sodomy is cool because it works with everyone")Dec 17 12:10
schestowitz@Marius, Android is Linux, but not GNU/Linux. It makes all the difference : you cannot modify anything within the system…Dec 17 12:10
schestowitz"Dec 17 12:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] French Ecology/Green Eva Joly : "Légalisons le partage sur internet !" - http://bit.ly/v9uHlM good idea #france (v @beabusaniche)Dec 17 12:12
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brendnopinions on languages are a messDec 17 12:12
brendntoo many people like me that do a bit of research and feel like they know whats bestDec 17 12:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Egypt is in the middle of a coup by the military AFAICS. Violence against journalists, live ammo against protestors an... http://b1t.it/adWiDec 17 12:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Seven judges to hear Julian #Assange extradition appeal http://gu.com/p/347vb many judges to make the stitch-up seem more legit #WikileaksDec 17 12:15
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oiaohmbrendn: You mean programing languages or spoken.Dec 17 12:27
oiaohmbrendn: or bothDec 17 12:27
brendnprogramDec 17 12:27
brendnbut im the same with spoken languagesDec 17 12:28
oiaohmbe thankful we don't have english like langauge in programming.  brendnDec 17 12:28
oiaohmEach programming language has history why it was invented.Dec 17 12:29
oiaohmLot of programming languages die.Dec 17 12:30
oiaohmMondern english was created beceause diplomates could not speak old english very well.  Then they mixed every other language bits in there.Dec 17 12:30
brendnwhich is why i learn lojban ;]Dec 17 12:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Seasonal flame bait - http://bit.ly/rFvO5l must-read: the *real* purpose of #SOPA (I agree, sadly...)Dec 17 12:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] RT @glynmoody Seasonal flame bait - http://bit.ly/rFvO5l must-read: the *real* purpose of #SOPA (I agree, sadly...)Dec 17 12:37
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amarsh04at least with kernel 3.2.0-rc6 the kernel doesn't keep using up all available idle timeDec 17 12:39
oiaohmamarsh04: what chipset were you onDec 17 12:43
amarsh04440BXDec 17 12:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @glynmoody: Seasonal flame bait - http://bit.ly/rFvO5l must-read: the *real* purpose of #SOPA (I agree, sadly...)Dec 17 12:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Today marks one year of Julian Assange's house arrest. 375 days of detention- 10 days in solitary imprisonment http://t.co/yH9Pm0fMDec 17 12:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is it me? or does #RobbieSavage seem to be emulating Ken of #Barbie fame for his image? http://goo.gl/aKciG http://goo.gl/NBOsv !footballDec 17 12:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] We will file another emergecy appeal in relation to the Manning case, today.Dec 17 13:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks sent 3 lawyers to #Manning hearing. but no concern from opportunistic NYTimes, Guardian. No honour. No class. http://t.co/t1FujWmEDec 17 13:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] http://goo.gl/mrF9g even #SimonCowell can be replaced by a machine, trained to churn out a never ending stream of profitable drivelDec 17 13:25
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amarsh04the ps2 game for the Athens Olympics gave better equestrian commentators than the real thing Dec 17 13:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] !Fedora 16 Verne with !KDE - Rather nice, actually → http://ur1.ca/6s2y4 !linuxDec 17 13:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Syria deploys Russian anti-sea missiles on coast, Scuds on Turkish border - #nato #stateterrorism #wwiii #russia http://goo.gl/fBEAvDec 17 13:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Does anyone know how to access the Gracenote music database without using Yahoo Music?Dec 17 14:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] NYTimes is corrupt. Today maliciously libels Assange as charged and fled Sweden. Both untrue. https://t.co/77Hap1a6 http://t.co/1scuh9n5Dec 17 14:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] useful intro to #meshnets and adhoc networking - http://bit.ly/ubuFX9 ever-more necessary (v @Asher_Wolf @fo0_) #wireless #surveillanceDec 17 14:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @netsensei bedankt! Werd tijd dat ik het eens deftig leerde ;) zeker als er binnenkort een end-point mo http://ur1. ...Dec 17 14:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Blijkbaar zijn er maar 24 uren in een dag. Toch even mijn planning daarop aanpassen.Dec 17 14:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @AnneCruyt Gebruik van maken om te werken. Werkt. ;)Dec 17 14:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Toch nog eens een nieuw boek aansnijden voor de thesis. Laatste loodjes - http://t.co/32SyaaYRDec 17 14:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @ibbt: http://ur1.ca/6s4dq is #launched, list your #parking spaces, and be invited soon to download http://ur1. ...Dec 17 14:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp @Tanfoglio_ pwnt.beDec 17 14:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: #eerlijk - Ik vind reactie @VincentVQ op de vakbondsacties rond pensioenhervorming origineel. Nu hopen http://ur1. ...Dec 17 14:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @jensdehaese komaan hé! En je fans dan?Dec 17 14:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp hangt ervan af of zij er mee kunnen lachen.Dec 17 14:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp Lijkt me een leuke mogelijke meme om er andere mensen op te trukeren. Had ik nu maar eens tijd.Dec 17 14:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp heeft nog steeds niet getweet vandaag. /cc @Tanfoglio_Dec 17 14:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp nee. Daar, kan ik mee lachen.Dec 17 14:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @t1mdp: Ik ben een nachtmens. Zeker op meetings in de voormiddag. #twexitDec 17 14:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Tanfoglio_ :DDec 17 14:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @mportier: Brugge Invites: http://t.co/IbZI2GQr barcamp on #weblinksworld - registrations are open!Dec 17 14:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp @Tanfoglio_ @rubenslabbinck ik kan daar mee lachen.Dec 17 14:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Tanfoglio_ excuses. Als ik morgen nog bij #vongenae wil graken... Ik ben tevens te voet.Dec 17 14:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @piezanowski: RT @OKFN SNCF launches a debate on open transport data in France http://ur1.ca/6s4dv http://ur1. ...Dec 17 14:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Mes slides de la présentation sur #iRail à #creatic - http://t.co/6hdkzlWbDec 17 14:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: #OKFN - http://t.co/9JYZO42z SNCF launches a debate on open transport data in France - Our point of view...Dec 17 14:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Australia: Gillard to let Assange be extradited from Sweden to US | SMH http://t.co/H6dXfnmQ more: http://t.co/FhYybbSADec 17 14:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Australian Government unlikely to aid #Assange - http://bit.ly/uMxXDv standing up for its citizens...or not (v @wikileaks)Dec 17 14:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Details on pending US extradition of Assange | SvA http://t.co/FhYybbSADec 17 14:40
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brendn"XP is a superb OS. It's exemplary."Dec 17 14:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Julian #Assange talks about both the NYTimes and the Guardian’s revolting treatment of their alleged source, #Manning http://t.co/rftGWIh3Dec 17 14:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] PCMCIA Computer Project Aims Even Higher (and Cheaper) Than Raspberry Pi - http://bit.ly/rO1y9g aiming at $15 per unit #linuxDec 17 14:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: PCMCIA Computer Project Aims Even Higher (and Cheaper) Than Raspberry Pi - Slashdot .::. Size~: 57.8 KBDec 17 14:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Good write up of #Manning hearing at NSA base Fort Meade | WSWS https://t.co/OnseBI4ZDec 17 15:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Watching recording of Christopher Hitchens vs Dinesh D'Souza at NorteDame about god - http://ur1.ca/6s5ceDec 17 15:02
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brendndoes xp have a microsoft backdoor? ;pDec 17 15:03
MinceRi know of at least two: the one for DRM updates and Windows UpdateDec 17 15:03
brendnthey force windows update even when its disabled?Dec 17 15:05
MinceRprobably notDec 17 15:05
brendnteaching someone who loves xp to despise it is hard workDec 17 15:06
*MinceR shrugsDec 17 15:06
brendnwell, seems they just love the uiDec 17 15:07
MinceRthey're religiousDec 17 15:07
MinceRthere's nothing in that ui that deserves to be likedDec 17 15:08
brendnno, its not someone like thatDec 17 15:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Books at my desk ATM: Kernighan/Ritchie - C, Stroustroup - C++and Mastering Regular Expressions. Holy trinity of UNIXy engineering ;-)Dec 17 15:09
MinceRwell, are they willing to try different UIs?Dec 17 15:10
MinceRones that don't steal or throw away focus for no reason, often aborting user actions in progress to do so?Dec 17 15:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Three suits behind #Manning prosecution bench who refuse to identify themselves and do not, like everyone else, have escorts.Dec 17 15:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @glynmoody: PCMCIA Computer Project Aims Even Higher (and Cheaper) Than Raspberry Pi - http://bit.ly/rO1y9g /cc @nj3ma @kelzOKODec 17 15:10
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MinceRones that manage to update the screen (e.g. when one window is moved above another) without leaving large parts of windows cleared to white or black?Dec 17 15:11
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MinceRones with proper virtual desktop support?Dec 17 15:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Reuters moves global online newsroom to Bangalore - http://bit.ly/sPiI0h symbolic shift east (v @rmack)Dec 17 15:12
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brendntheir bigger problem is apps that arent on GNU/linuxDec 17 15:13
MinceRand they explain that as "loving the ui"?Dec 17 15:13
brendnum dont think soDec 17 15:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @GeorgeMonbiot That #BradleyManning may face life w/o parole for performing service to democracy is the #Dreyfus scandal of our time.Dec 17 15:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] McRae: Pacman Package Signing - 4: Arch Linux http://ur1.ca/6s5x8Dec 17 15:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Army appeals court has rejectsed #Manning effort to remove presiding officer in WikiLeaks hearing.Dec 17 15:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma Cheap, powerful tablets are going to hit the market in mid 2012, it will take that long for them to saturate domestic Chinese demandDec 17 15:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Cyber-Rights & Cyber-Liberties (UK) #Echelon Watch pages - #surveillance #policestate #eu #ukusa http://goo.gl/nBFn6Dec 17 15:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] The 3.2-rc6 prepatch is out http://ur1.ca/6s6alDec 17 15:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Coming Soon: Ubiquitous Long-Term Surveillance From Big Brother - http://bit.ly/sfx3AI blame Moore's Law for storage #surveillanceDec 17 15:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] With the best will in the world, I just don't get as much time on Social Networks over the holidays. Maybe the strange http://ur1.ca/6s6rpDec 17 15:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Go Back to School with Google’s !Android Training Program http://goo.gl/KR1U2Dec 17 15:50
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Royellaroy happy birthday!Dec 17 15:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] NASA Satellite May Have Found The Smallest Known Black Hole - Forbes http://onforb.es/uZ0631Dec 17 15:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Q: What is the Reimann Hypothesis? Why is it so important? | Ask a Mathematician / Ask a Physicist http://goo.gl/71XHVDec 17 16:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The Private and Social Costs of Patent Trolls http://goo.gl/MXe4o [sorry it's aPDF]Dec 17 16:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @mohanpram Dell pulls out of netbook market http://is.gd/6pyRTuDec 17 16:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) vote delayed http://ur1.ca/6s7xo #sopa #copyright #us #congress #softwareDec 17 16:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 9-11 verdict is 'US propaganda for waging war on #Iran' | COLLAPSENET - #morelies #usa #nato #stateterrorism http://goo.gl/AsxQKDec 17 16:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #2012: This is a pretty good animation of how Newt Gingrich gained the lead http://identi.ca/url/62663548Dec 17 16:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] !Google says Let It Snow http://identi.ca/url/62664179Dec 17 16:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Holiday Gift Ideas for Linux Users http://ur1.ca/6s8ei #christmas #gift #gnu #linux #ideaDec 17 16:35
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shomonaccording the ireland's DPA we can ask facebook for all our data as EU citizens.Dec 17 16:36
shomondoes anyone know where to ask?Dec 17 16:36
shomonit's not the button on the site, it's asking for absolutely everything legally heldDec 17 16:36
shomonso it's a cdrom with pdfsDec 17 16:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] POSIX close(2) is broken http://identi.ca/url/62636078 !linuxDec 17 16:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Public relations preparations for 2003 invasion of Iraq - Wikipedia - http://goo.gl/Fa8IU history repeating http://goo.gl/AsxQKDec 17 16:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] LiMux project exceeds annual target http://ur1.ca/6s8ie #gnu #linux #limux #germany #munich #europeDec 17 16:39
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schestowitzshomon: yeahDec 17 16:40
schestowitzthey assemble the data and send it to youDec 17 16:40
schestowitzlike 20 pages IIRCDec 17 16:40
schestowitzSomeone tried itDec 17 16:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Opening Government Data in #Bulgaria - http://bit.ly/tWhDpu great to see #opendataDec 17 16:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] National #Microsoft #monopoly in #Romania: "[...] more than 50% of #IT jobs are related to Microsoft Romania. http://ur1.ca/6ronrDec 17 16:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @glynmoody Opening Government Data in #Bulgaria - http://bit.ly/tWhDpu great to see #opendataDec 17 16:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] In case #SOPA passes: emergency list of IP addresses for popular websites - http://bit.ly/uQHUyQ getting seriousDec 17 16:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] What I Learned About the Wired World on Jury Duty - http://rww.to/t2up1x unusual, raises important issues #socialnwsDec 17 16:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] !identica 's "mirror from RSS" feature can really flood the timelines. There seems to be a bug causing it to mirror ALL past entries at onceDec 17 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] WTF is happening with #SOPA now? http://identi.ca/url/62664995 !effDec 17 16:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why you (yes you) should donate your medical data - http://bit.ly/sAHdEg well, maybe #privacy #researchDec 17 16:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] European Parliament adopts proposals to improve EU #transparency rules - http://bit.ly/vSlmOw but will the Council agree?Dec 17 16:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] World's Smallest and Most Power-Efficient Fingerprint Sensor in China - http://bit.ly/vAURXo can't imagine they'll be interested...Dec 17 16:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Indonesian paper firm logging tiger sanctuary: NGOs - http://f24.my/s4I6Ap Asia Pulp & Paper looking v evil if true #APP #indonesiaDec 17 16:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: What happened to the PIPEDA review?: Law mandated a review of Canadian privacy law in 2011 http://t.co/9Kwo4MAxDec 17 16:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] http://is.gd/4DooVC #privacy #freedom #policestate #dissent #climategateDec 17 17:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] #xfiles pilot on #bbcamerica /cc @bkuhnDec 17 17:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] Just a quick update to link to a video showing the game in action. And a list of the main changes in what will be versi http://ur1.ca/6s99xDec 17 17:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] British fishing industry lands controversial EU deal - http://bit.ly/sDMzPY fishermen overfish for years, then whinge about smaller quotasDec 17 17:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Water Will Be Critical Limiting Factor of 21st Century Production - http://bit.ly/s1YREI oil? who cares? you can't drink it (v @mbauwens)Dec 17 17:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The growing menace of domestic #drones - Salon.com - #usa #policestate http://goo.gl/iAs3UDec 17 17:14
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XFaCEMinceR: Royella was troll, no?Dec 17 17:18
XFaCE*was aDec 17 17:18
MinceRno ideaDec 17 17:18
XFaCEBased on his messages, I say yesDec 17 17:19
MinceRdidn't use a proxy apparently (the IP was from Sky or something like that)Dec 17 17:19
XFaCE[11:59] <Royella> 12/17/11 [10:55:24 AM] roy happy birthday!Dec 17 17:19
XFaCE[11:59] <Royella> 12/17/11 [11:13:31 AM] roy  schestowitzDec 17 17:19
XFaCE[11:59] <Royella> 12/17/11 [11:13:38 AM] chunkDec 17 17:19
MinceRi couldn't tell, i was waiting for more overt clues :>Dec 17 17:19
XFaCElike, WAWAWAWAWAWA?Dec 17 17:20
MinceRdunnoDec 17 17:21
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XFaCEMinceR: The Pirate Party of Canada forum uses HTTPS nowDec 17 17:22
XFaCEI don't tend to see that with public forumsDec 17 17:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] one small step towards a commercial plasma active tablet: first kernel boot from SD card by vgrade http://ur1.ca/6s9s5Dec 17 17:24
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XFaCEbluebomber: Michael?Dec 17 17:26
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schestowitzXFaCE: it was a friendDec 17 17:42
schestowitzhe was jokingDec 17 17:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Congress attempting to pass SOPA when everyone is too busy to fight it. http://j.mp/vWkL9nDec 17 17:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] it's an AMLogic chipset w/capacitive touch + the usual goodies. if we are successful in our efforts it will be on the market early 2012.Dec 17 17:52
schestowitzXFaCE: he came to PM me about a dinner p[arty we go to tonight... a whole bunch of usDec 17 17:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] RT @fjacob @tanghus Nice, a fellow !owncloud hacker. :) These two blog posts helped me a lot with !kde !plasma activities: ur1.ca/6s3dx ...Dec 17 17:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @zoobab Substantive patent law will remain part of the Unitary Patent, thus making it part of EU legal order ur1.ca/6sa7s bigDec 17 17:56
XFaCEschestowitz: luckyDec 17 18:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Click here to save the Internet as we know it http://ur1.ca/6sb47Dec 17 18:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Beautiful ! http://ur1.ca/6sbe2Dec 17 18:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] http://ur1.ca/6sbmx #sip_and_click prOn?Dec 17 18:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Calvin & Hobbes has long been an intergenerational favorite in my family, so I'll share a link from my brother Lani: http://www.ur1.ca/6sbo9Dec 17 18:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] The Orbit of the Moon around the Sun is Convex! http://identi.ca/url/62670545 !scienceDec 17 18:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] PRESS RELEASE: WikiLeaks & CCR file 2nd writ in relation to US military pretrial of Bradley Manning http://t.co/ubWN4q7PDec 17 18:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Esta Semana (2011/50) – Obama o novo imperador; Projecto livre de Munique, LiMux quase completo « O Vigia http://goo.gl/Xf6pdDec 17 18:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Judge dismisses $1B Wordperfect lawsuit against Microsoft - jury failed to reach a unanimous verdict http://goo.gl/x1tdPDec 17 18:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !GPL, copyleft use declining faster than ever | ITworld http://goo.gl/iqbC8Dec 17 18:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks + Occupy Petition: Stop preventing the UN Special Rapporteur on Torture from examining Bradley https://t.co/Q4TPbIGFDec 17 19:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] http://www.universetoday.com/91848/new-study-says-large-regions-of-mars-could-sustain-life/ #climatechangeDec 17 19:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks + Occupy Petition: Stop preventing the UN Special Rapporteur on Torture from examining Bradley Manning https://t.co/Q4TPbIGFDec 17 19:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Despite my best efforts, today was actually productive! go figure! also curse you internet!Dec 17 19:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ninguem I've never had success searching !identica .... the only thing that seems to work is the "find more groups" search under groupsDec 17 19:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wikileaks2 WikiLeaks + Occupy Petition: Stop preventing the UN Special Rapporteur on Torture from examining Bradley Manning https:// ...Dec 17 19:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] is it that they don't exist or that they are abused? are the US founding documents wrong on this point?Dec 17 19:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] is this because they care for themselves and not their fellow man? or do they fail to see the possible downsides? or?Dec 17 19:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] Free licenses are not enough unless you have the ability and resources to successfully fork. #necessarybutnotsufficientDec 17 19:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] there is a lot of wealth behind #copyleft failing. it is scary to business as usual folks. http://ur1.ca/6q2l5Dec 17 19:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: zotz: Will It Come To This .::. Size~: 44.59 KBDec 17 19:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is schestowitz from identi.ca with 72 dents!Dec 17 19:26
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iophkBlackduck is trolling /.Dec 17 19:34
iophkhttp://developers.slashdot.org/story/11/12/17/1735253/gpl-copyleft-use-declining-fastDec 17 19:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GPL, Copyleft Use Declining Fast - Slashdot .::. Size~: 215.86 KBDec 17 19:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] :( deciding i should climb back under my ice pack into the backed bedroom to do away with the sinus migraineDec 17 19:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !tzafDec 17 19:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks & Bradley Manning need you: http://t.co/t1FujWmE and http://t.co/8X4MPNOWDec 17 19:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Woman of the year Hetty Bower, still fighting war at 106 - YouTube - #antiwar http://ur1.ca/6sdshDec 17 19:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Activist Post: Congress Declares 'Offensive' War on the #Internet in #NDAA - #usa #policestate http://goo.gl/i0TyCDec 17 19:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Video: Daniel Ellsberg weighs in on the importance of the Bradley Manning case http://t.co/UmMZe0iZDec 17 19:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Razor-qt is an advanced, easy-to-use, and fast desktop environment based on Qt technologies. http://razor-qt.org/ vi@brunomiguelDec 17 20:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] the first two are stated as exclusive or(s) so they can't be yes and yes there.Dec 17 20:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] eg: on kompoz I get emails when people I track post tracks to song projects. I have to follow, email does not give license. long req featureDec 17 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] Also, I may miss good news.Dec 17 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Ron Paul Gets Standing Ovation on NBC's Tonight Show | NewsBusters.org - #ronpaul http://goo.gl/WdJcJDec 17 20:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] YouTube Says Universal Had No ‘Right’ to Take Down Megaupload Video http://identi.ca/url/62677701 !effDec 17 20:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @ellievhall: Testimony from Army Computer Crimes Investigative Unit special agent: he believes Assange was involved in uploading mate ...Dec 17 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @jenssegers welke wil je? #komtvoorelkaar /cc @TuinslakDec 17 20:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @brabram: My #lachambre.be_to_json parser is now a #freesoftware project https://t.co/fkJxS5E3 #opendataDec 17 20:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @PaulZH: Lots of things going on in the linked open data space in Belgium: ontoforce, thedatatankDec 17 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: En dan is het vloeken dat we op het laatste nippertje niet naar haar optreden zijn geweest. RIP Cesária Évora #saudadeDec 17 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @timoreilly: I tweeted the question "Does Real-time Transit Information Increase Ridership?" and sto http://ur1. ...Dec 17 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Sander_R_ had je dan zijn aandacht? ;)Dec 17 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @bobber_a @VincentVQ Erg! Ik zet dat alvast op de agenda voor volgende @OKFN België vergadering (dinsd http://ur1.c ...Dec 17 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @bobber_a @VincentVQ probeer eens bij http://t.co/emrAuPRd en http://t.co/2agYqUoyDec 17 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] More Cool 'Native Client' Games You Can Play in !Linux ~ !Ubuntu Vibes http://goo.gl/gLnvxDec 17 20:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @PaulZH: “The web links into the world” (And vice-versa) Barcamp Bruges 2012-01-26 http://t.co/K82tuuqRDec 17 20:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] But not enough of the copyright to actually deter a well-resourced corporation.Dec 17 20:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @grawok: Gnome shell is more and more sexy with its online extension manager, adopted by most distro and Gnome 3.4 coming soon...Dec 17 20:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @ellievhall: Manning's defense team made another request for lateral investigation evidence (DOJ, State and FBI's files). Denied. #br ...Dec 17 20:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Nicole Atkins - Maybe Tonight http://ur1.ca/6sfpz via @minitubeappDec 17 20:52
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XFaCEwow. most of those "Native client" games look like assDec 17 20:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @kgosztola: Katz was found to have Garani airstrike video file on his computer - B.zip & within was another file BE22PAX.wmv #Manning ...Dec 17 21:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] I may be !vegan, but @beefymiracle sounds absolutely delicious.Dec 17 21:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ piratepartyca: Come to "Ottawa Bi-Weekly Pirate Hangout" 27 December from 19:00 to 21:00. Who: Ottawa Area Pirates & In http://ur1. ...Dec 17 21:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @kgosztola: Prosecution witness Mander talks about Adrian Lamo tipping off CCIU on Jason Katz working under Dept of Energy #Manning # ...Dec 17 21:12
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XFaCEXFaCE: I want to go, but how do I get there?Dec 17 21:16
*XFaCE XFaCE shrugs at XFaCE.Dec 17 21:17
XFaCEwell that was a failDec 17 21:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #RIAA and Homeland Security Caught Downloading Torrents | TorrentFreak - http://goo.gl/1lxkSDec 17 21:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @kgosztola: FYI: Jason Katz was with Brook Haven National Laboratory. Feb 2009 to March 2010 employed then fired #Manning #WikiLeaksDec 17 21:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @Edpilkington: US initially feare foreign govts involved wt #Manning, prosecution witness reveals. He lived in UK they noted! #WikiLeaksDec 17 21:31
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twitterhappy birthday, Roy.Dec 17 21:37
*twitter is now known as Guest22078Dec 17 21:37
XFaCEGuest22078: Uh, twitter, you don't have to hide your nameDec 17 21:38
XFaCEThere's nothing to be ashamed ofDec 17 21:38
XFaCE:)Dec 17 21:38
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MinceRi think NickServ changed his nick due to not identifyingDec 17 21:38
XFaCEoopDec 17 21:38
Guest22078I think the Twitter people stole my name, thanks.Dec 17 21:40
XFaCEGuest22078: time for force take!Dec 17 21:40
Guest22078I did not change my password.Dec 17 21:40
Guest22078what is force take?Dec 17 21:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @Edpilkington: BREAKING: Civilian called Jason Katz was investigated 4 decrypting video of Gharani airstrike in Afghanstn, #Manning h ...Dec 17 21:41
XFaCEWhere you force take-back your name with a swift freenode commandDec 17 21:41
Diablo-D3learn how to use nickserv works, dudeDec 17 21:41
XFaCEDiablo-D3: Me or him?Dec 17 21:41
XFaCEI've done it beforeDec 17 21:41
Diablo-D3himDec 17 21:41
XFaCEGuest22078: "/MSG NickServ RELEASE yournick yourpassword "Dec 17 21:42
XFaCEDo it twiceDec 17 21:42
Guest22078I presume schestowitz is off enjoying his birthday?Dec 17 21:42
XFaCEa dinner party, yeahDec 17 21:42
Guest22078lol, there's my old passwordDec 17 21:43
Guest22078no good.Dec 17 21:43
XFaCEGuest22078: In what sense?Dec 17 21:44
XFaCEYou really have to do it twice or moreDec 17 21:44
Guest22078"Invalid password for twitter."Dec 17 21:44
Guest22078I can do that all day long.Dec 17 21:44
XFaCEGuest22078: Well, you'll have to remember itDec 17 21:45
Guest22078What I'll have to remember it to get a new nym for irc, but it's about 99 on a 100 long to do listDec 17 21:46
MinceRGuest22078: how long were you absent from Freenode?Dec 17 21:48
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XFaCEyo jono, you may want to use SASL or a delay script when you log in, because your mask isn't taking effect quick enoughDec 17 21:51
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XFaCEjono: Freenode provides an SASL script for xchat, though it requires pythonDec 17 21:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Breakthrough could double solar energy output http://identi.ca/url/62681866 !scienceDec 17 21:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Breakthrough could double solar electricity ouput - latimes.com .::. Size~: 184.18 KBDec 17 21:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Lord Mandelson: secrets of a filthy rich fortune - Telegraph #uk #globalkleptocracy vi@igeldard http://goo.gl/ASbSNDec 17 21:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Apple falls to 3rd place in the Chinese smartphone race - Apple 2.0 - Fortune Tech - http://goo.gl/cuHtNDec 17 21:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lord Mandelson: secrets of a filthy rich fortune - Telegraph .::. Size~: 57.55 KBDec 17 21:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple falls to 3rd place in the Chinese smartphone race -  Apple 2.0 -  Fortune Tech .::. Size~: 58.84 KBDec 17 21:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] meant as: if inalienable rights don't exist then they can't be abused.Dec 17 21:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Sopa must die http://goo.gl/Vw1RF at Way of the MonkeyDec 17 22:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Way of the Monkey .::. Size~: 10.42 KBDec 17 22:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] organicconsumers -- #Monsanto's Micro-Monster Could Kill Us All - #gmo #depopulation http://goo.gl/hniFiDec 17 22:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: organicconsumers -- Monsanto's Micro-Monster Could Kill Us All .::. Size~: 9.17 KBDec 17 22:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Survival Skills 2012 - #Cody Lundin - YouTube - #preppers http://ur1.ca/6sifaDec 17 22:31
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bdotHi folksDec 17 22:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #BPI #DMCA #Copyright Complaint to !Google -- Chilling Effects Clearinghouse http://goo.gl/ERJj3Dec 17 22:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Blackburn need to lance the #Keen & #Venky boyle; the fans will never accept that combo !footballDec 17 22:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] ANNOUNCE: WikiLeaks opens global activist social network Friends of WikiLeaks https://t.co/xWcS5ckQ #freebrad #wikileaks #owsDec 17 23:01
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mcinsandping!  I want to respond to the 5 yr anniv article, but would rather doso privately to avoid feeding trolls.  my email is mcinsand@gmail.comDec 17 23:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Reader’s Picks Will sprint for freedom: Report from the NYC CiviCRM code sprint CiviCRM is a “graduate̶ http://ur1.ca/6sjpzDec 17 23:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ Reader’s Picks Will sprint for freedom: Report from the NYC CiviCRM code sprint CiviCRM is a “graduate̶ http://ur1. ...Dec 17 23:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links – FSF success, Microsoft failures and some anti-trust | Techrights .::. Size~: 94.17 KBDec 17 23:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Revealed: how City fees are eating into our pensions http://gu.com/p/3475z another reverse #RobinHood scam exposedDec 17 23:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Revealed: how City fees are eating into our pensions | Business | The Observer .::. Size~: 268.28 KBDec 17 23:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Bankers Christmas play = a rewrite of #RobinHood - rob from the poor to give to the rich - doubles up as staff training; time is moneyDec 17 23:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] !Google: Universal lied about its private kill-switch for YouTube videos http://identi.ca/url/62687114 !effDec 17 23:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] How SOPA will destroy Internet security http://identi.ca/url/62687150 !effDec 17 23:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google: Universal lied about its private kill-switch for YouTube videos - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 26.98 KBDec 17 23:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How SOPA will destroy Internet security - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 27.85 KBDec 17 23:36
XFaCE[18:35] <TechrightsBot-tr> Title: Google: Universal lied about its private kill-switch for YouTube videos - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 26.98 KBDec 17 23:38
XFaCEWow, a conglomerate pushing lies and BS?Dec 17 23:38
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