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DaemonFChttp://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS6.2Dec 21 03:51
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DaemonFChttp://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?65774-Phasing-Out-SysVInit-In-openSUSE-Raises-Concerns&p=242680#post242680Dec 21 04:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Phasing Out SysVInit In openSUSE Raises Concerns - Page 2 .::. Size~: 74.06 KBDec 21 04:01
DaemonFCI don't trust "Open" SUSE because they depend on the people at "AttachMSFT"'s "MicroSUSE" division holding the purse strings, owning the copyrights and trademarks to a good part of the distribution, deciding what goes in and how it is configured, or often, misconfigured...Dec 21 04:01
DaemonFCheheDec 21 04:01
DaemonFCI tried OpenSUSE 11.4 because I was curious, and what I saw was a distribution in decayDec 21 04:02
DaemonFCthey did at least get rid of that SaX2 torture deviceDec 21 04:02
DaemonFCthough I hear they resurrected it as SaX3Dec 21 04:02
DaemonFChttp://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/21/us-crime-amish-idUSTRE7BK0AH20111221Dec 21 04:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twelve charged with hate crimes in Amish beard cutting | Reuters .::. Size~: 92.09 KBDec 21 04:05
DaemonFCschestowitz: You think I could drug an Amish guy and trick Dawn into shaving him?Dec 21 04:05
DaemonFCthat would get her a hate crime sentencing enhancement and I wouldn't have to deal with her anymoreDec 21 04:05
DaemonFChttp://www.eonline.com/news/indiana_settles_up_in_sugarland_stage/282047Dec 21 04:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Indiana Settles Up in Sugarland Stage Collapse - E! Online .::. Size~: 69.59 KBDec 21 04:08
DaemonFCThe state of Indiana briefly tried screwing over the stage collapse victims families with an insulting offer of only $300,000 in total to be split up between themDec 21 04:08
DaemonFCbut after being skewered on the news for his cheapness, his "honor" Mitch Daniels decided to just pay out the $5 million that the state's legal liability cap allowsDec 21 04:09
DaemonFChttp://img8.imageshack.us/img8/7369/photo0021iq.jpgDec 21 04:11
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DaemonFCback of my car ;)Dec 21 04:11
DaemonFCthat's been on there since I got the car in 2005Dec 21 04:13
DaemonFChe has one more full year left before he's term limitedDec 21 04:13
DaemonFCanother illegal immigrant representation outfit is suing the stateDec 21 04:14
DaemonFChttp://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/lake/hammond/e-c-nonprofit-sues-state-local-officials-over-immigration-law/article_665149c5-9eb5-595d-be3b-81a4add0bfbb.htmlDec 21 04:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: E.C. nonprofit sues state, local officials over immigration law .::. Size~: 50.87 KBDec 21 04:14
DaemonFCthe ACLU was the firstDec 21 04:15
DaemonFCI terminated my ACLU membership several years ago after they agreed to represent Nazi skinheads in courtDec 21 04:15
DaemonFCnow that they're also representing people who have no legal right to be here, my position on the ACLU has been, unchanged Dec 21 04:15
DaemonFCwhatever happened to spending their resources fighting the U SAP RIOT ACT? :)Dec 21 04:16
DaemonFCit seems like whatever unAmerican group that wants to make a mockery of the constitution comes along, the ACLU is there for themDec 21 04:17
DaemonFCthey've long since stopped fighting in the courts to protect civil liberties Dec 21 04:17
DaemonFCthe ACLU actually damages the liberal and civil libertarian image in the USDec 21 04:18
DaemonFCpeople see them fighting on behalf of Nazi skinheads and illegal immigrants and use that as their basis for anti-liberal and anti-civil libertarian straw man argumentsDec 21 04:19
DaemonFCsome stories about financial support for the Salvation Army being low this year (due to bad economy)Dec 21 04:21
DaemonFCwhich is a shameDec 21 04:22
DaemonFCreligious issues aside, they are a very efficient charityDec 21 04:22
DaemonFCand what they do is needed since the government hands out all the welfare money to illegal aliens and baby machinesDec 21 04:22
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DaemonFCMy uncle amuses me, he was up here from Georgia for Thanksgiving and was talking about how they should shut down all the welfare programs because people get paid to make babies and not look for workDec 21 04:23
DaemonFCso I asked him if his son and girlfriend were still living in his basement with their son, drawing food stamps and TANF, while smoking pot and unemployedDec 21 04:24
DaemonFCthat shut him up for the rest of the time he was up hereDec 21 04:24
DaemonFC*son's girlfriendDec 21 04:24
DaemonFCyeah, there's a pot smoking baby machine in your basementDec 21 04:25
DaemonFCI guess charity really does start at home, you hypocrite :)Dec 21 04:25
DaemonFChttp://planetsave.com/2011/12/19/climate-change-may-cause-large-ecosystem-changes-nasa-reports/Dec 21 04:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Climate Change May Cause Large Ecosystem Changes, NASA Reports .::. Size~: 75.48 KBDec 21 04:27
DaemonFCRepublicans: Defund NASA so they'll shut upDec 21 04:27
DaemonFCDemocrats: Use it as an excuse to raise home heating bills through taxes that are not connected to solving the problemDec 21 04:27
DaemonFChttp://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9222898/Mozilla_Google_seal_new_Firefox_search_dealDec 21 04:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mozilla, Google seal new Firefox search deal - Computerworld .::. Size~: 136.94 KBDec 21 04:29
DaemonFCI don't see how this could have gone any differentDec 21 04:29
DaemonFCMozilla used Bing threats as a way to extract more money from GoogleDec 21 04:29
DaemonFCGoogle still can't afford to have that happen even though Google Chrome is eating Firefox the same way Firefox ate Internet ExplorerDec 21 04:30
DaemonFCin 3-4 years, Google will no longer require Mozilla because Firefox will be back under 5%Dec 21 04:30
DaemonFCas Chrome and Opera and to a much lesser extent but still relevant Qtwebkit and GtkWebkit continue improving at a rate that far exceeds Firefox, Mozilla Firefox will in effect become the new IE 6Dec 21 04:32
DaemonFCmaking unimportant changes and spraying Firefox with new car smell every few months will only get them so farDec 21 04:32
DaemonFConly the state of Indiana could declare a document type to be XHTML StrictDec 21 04:45
DaemonFCand then put in the marquee tagDec 21 04:45
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schestowitzhttp://status.net/2011/12/20/identi-ca-downDec 21 05:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Identi.ca down | StatusNet .::. Size~: 13.61 KBDec 21 05:22
schestowitz"Update 14:50 PM PST: I can't seem to revive the main database server, so I'm copying data to another server in the same data centre to see if it wants to wake up."Dec 21 05:22
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schestowitzhttp://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2011/12/15/on-the-continuing-decline-of-the-gpl/Dec 21 05:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 451 CAOS Theory » On the continuing decline of the GPL .::. Size~: 80.73 KBDec 21 05:51
schestowitz"Dec 21 05:51
schestowitz@Matthew I think “funding” might the wrong word here. Let’s call it yet another “proxy” company or “connected” with microsoft. The main purpose of such companies is to influence on public opinion and make other destruction.Dec 21 05:51
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2011/12/19/microsoft-infiltrators-vs-gpl/Dec 21 05:51
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Black_DuckDec 21 05:51
schestowitzStill not convinced? I give up. Go to microsoft for the evidence paper with a circle sealDec 21 05:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Free Software/GPL FUD Arrives From Microsoft Infiltrators | Techrights .::. Size~: 86.36 KBDec 21 05:51
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schestowitz"Dec 21 05:51
schestowitzsee Matt's replyDec 21 05:51
schestowitz"GNOME2, very classic ;-) " "Gnome2 was, now using MATE; as long as it's actively developed it will be great :) XFCE wins my fallback prize " "Gnome Shell. Takes some getting used to, but it's by far the biggest step forward for desktops (and tablets). "  https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1073889Dec 21 05:56
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schestowitz"just starting using gnome shell a week ago, takes a bit of getting used to but actually starting to like it. gnome 2 previously and never got settled with kde4 " "Gnome 2.32! I am on Trisquel 5.0 so i can keep running with it! "Dec 21 05:57
schestowitz"I vote Gnome Shell as well. Can't stand Unity and all other Desktops are bland, boring and not innovative at all. IMO "Dec 21 05:57
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1072040 "Non free software is always bad because it always exerts unjust power over you. If you don't have the four software freedoms, you don't know what the code is really doing. Foxconn's hardware that can run with free software is less evil than their hardware that can't be. If you give people power over you, they will abuse you the way North Korea abuses people."Dec 21 05:58
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schestowitzGoldman Sachs spent $800K on 3Q lobbying http://is.gd/bfdLT3 spent far more, undisclosedDec 21 06:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Goldman Sachs spent $800K on 3Q lobbying - BusinessWeek .::. Size~: 47.84 KBDec 21 06:01
schestowitzWhy The Linux Desktop Still Rocks http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/159906/ #gnu #linuxDec 21 06:04
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schestowitzDoes A Simple Firefox Add-On Make SOPA Useless?  http://is.gd/HVN13i #sopa #mozillaDec 21 06:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Does A Simple Firefox Add-On Make SOPA Useless? | WebProNews .::. Size~: 72.89 KBDec 21 06:06
schestowitzApache forges ahead with OpenOffice.org suite http://is.gd/P66vPy #apacheDec 21 06:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apache forges ahead with OpenOffice.org suite | Application Development - InfoWorld .::. Size~: 86.96 KBDec 21 06:07
schestowitzKernel Log: Multitouch for X.org and new graphics drivers http://is.gd/yCX5rM #kernel #linuxDec 21 06:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kernel Log: Multitouch for X.org - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 45.62 KBDec 21 06:08
schestowitzMunich has Migrated the 9000th PC to GNU/Linux http://is.gd/cySLcc #germany #linuxDec 21 06:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Munich has Migrated the 9000th PC to GNU/Linux at  Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 60.98 KBDec 21 06:11
schestowitzMozilla and Google Sign New Agreement for Default Search in Firefox http://is.gd/gpbWQp  #firefox #googleDec 21 06:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mozilla and Google Sign New Agreement for Default Search in Firefox | The Mozilla Blog .::. Size~: 65.26 KBDec 21 06:14
schestowitzKindle Fire, Nook Tablet pushing Android/Linux tablet share to 40 percent, predicts IDC http://is.gd/vNnfp5 #androidDec 21 06:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kindle Fire, Nook Tablet pushing Android tablet share to 40 percent, predicts IDC - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 56.39 KBDec 21 06:16
schestowitz#CentOS and #Oracle release their Red Hat 6.2 clones http://is.gd/KGpdsd #redhat #gnu #linux #rhelDec 21 06:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CentOS and Oracle release their Red Hat 6.2 clones - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 57.76 KBDec 21 06:18
schestowitzArchos Honeycomb tablet to debut at under $200 http://is.gd/Eq79sj #linux #archosDec 21 06:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Archos Honeycomb tablet to debut at under $200 - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 55.07 KBDec 21 06:20
schestowitzLinux, FreeBSD, Solaris i7-3960X Scaling Performance http://is.gd/iFqtJf #linux  #bsd #unixDec 21 06:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Linux, FreeBSD, Solaris i7-3960X Scaling Performance .::. Size~: 19.17 KBDec 21 06:22
schestowitzYesterday was the first time in a long while that I could not find a single Ubuntu-related news item for daily links.  Not much news there...Dec 21 06:30
schestowitz#Adobe has new Trash Player http://is.gd/mbLcz1 YouTube with #WebM will render is obsoleteDec 21 06:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Flash Player 11.1 released with Android 4.0 support - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 55.07 KBDec 21 06:34
schestowitz#Linpus Lite 1.6 desktop edition screenshot preview http://is.gd/UVKGfU #gnu #linuxDec 21 06:38
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schestowitzThe Linux Setup - Jonathan Roberts, TuxRadar Podcast http://is.gd/AQRHxP #gnu #linuxDec 21 06:40
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schestowitz"Outercurve Foundation -- which used to be known as the CodePlex Foundation - aka. the Microsoft sponsored " http://is.gd/rWijlJDec 21 06:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why Do Developers Contribute Code as Open Source? - InternetNews. .::. Size~: 32.91 KBDec 21 06:41
schestowitzMIT launching certificate program based on OpenCourseWare, open source platform http://is.gd/XbKgfU #mit #openaccessDec 21 06:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MIT launching certificate program based on OpenCourseWare, open source platform .::. Size~: 32.84 KBDec 21 06:44
schestowitzThe Linux Kernel vs Commercial kernels http://is.gd/H9VFG6 bad headline. #Linux *is* "Commercial"Dec 21 06:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: » Linuxaria – Everything about GNU/Linux and Open source The Linux Kernel vs Commercial kernels .::. Size~: 59.52 KBDec 21 06:46
schestowitzDownload Firefox 9.0 Final for Linux http://is.gd/uGitjX #mozilla #firefox #gnu #linuxDec 21 06:47
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schestowitzMint Cocktail: Mojito or Molotov  http://is.gd/kOGfSc #linuxmintDec 21 06:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mint Cocktail: Mojito or Molotov - Linux notes from DarkDuck .::. Size~: 108.82 KBDec 21 06:49
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1075501 "I really hope so, with plenty of other technologies out there Flash really has outstayed it welcome and deserves to be put to rest."Dec 21 06:50
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1073889 "wmii all the way.. though i kde4 and gnome shell have their place on my machines too."Dec 21 06:51
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schestowitzApache says OpenOffice 3.4 planned for early 2012 http://is.gd/Y2u49N http://is.gd/GUvdYN #odfDec 21 06:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apache says OpenOffice 3.4 planned for early 2012 - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 41.45 KBDec 21 06:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Letter to the Open Document Format Ecosystem from The Apache Software Foundation - MarketWatch .::. Size~: 76.84 KBDec 21 06:57
schestowitzCricket unveils contract-free, four-inch Huawei Mercury http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Huawei-Mercury-debuts/?kc=rss #linuxDec 21 07:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cricket unveils contract-free, four-inch Huawei Mercury - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 57.58 KBDec 21 07:00
schestowitz"Thanks :) I m up to date :)" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1075542Dec 21 07:00
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schestowitzI'm still on 3.6 and 3.5 (iceweasel)Dec 21 07:00
schestowitzIf tablet was renamed "desklet", would silly people still cuss at claims of #Linux growth on the "desktop" (which includes "laptops")?Dec 21 07:03
schestowitzDomain renewal scams seem to be on the rise. Received one by snail mail last week, just got another one by E-mail. Don't pay those crooks.Dec 21 07:06
DaemonFCschestowitz: What about RMS and his comments that pedophilia is voluntary and harmless to childrenDec 21 07:07
DaemonFCand that porn should be reclassified as educational material for schoolsDec 21 07:07
DaemonFCthat's a bit, muchDec 21 07:07
schestowitz15 December 2011: #GParted Live 0.11.0-2 Stable Released http://gparted.sourceforge.net/news.php #gnu #linuxDec 21 07:08
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DaemonFCthere's nothing wrong with watching porn for arousal, as long as you know that in most cases it is fictitious/exaggerated/not representative of what to expect from sexDec 21 07:09
DaemonFCand I'm not sure I'd call most of it educational in any wayDec 21 07:09
schestowitzAsk rmsDec 21 07:09
schestowitzmaybe he meant something elseDec 21 07:09
DaemonFCthe idea of "voluntary pedophilia" on the part of a child is disgustingDec 21 07:09
schestowitz"Dec 21 07:10
schestowitz> So you are probably happy, but not completely satisfied, as breaking the British record was you main goal, right?Dec 21 07:10
schestowitz> Do you intend to try again next year?Dec 21 07:10
schestowitzyes, if they run the contest again.Dec 21 07:10
schestowitz"Dec 21 07:10
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1075417 "Nice to read about your Linux experience :)"Dec 21 07:11
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schestowitzhttp://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/LiMux-project-exceeds-annual-target-1397238.htmlDec 21 07:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LiMux project exceeds annual target - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.56 KBDec 21 07:16
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2011-12-20-006-41-OS-LL-0000Dec 21 07:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Today - On the continuing decline of the GPL .::. Size~: 51.95 KBDec 21 07:17
schestowitz"Dec 21 07:17
schestowitzContrary to the headline although admitted in thisDec 21 07:17
schestowitzarticle, use of the GPL is not declining but increasing.Dec 21 07:17
schestowitzBut use of so-called permissive licenses (whichDec 21 07:17
schestowitzenable developers to restrict the rights of users inDec 21 07:17
schestowitzarbitrary ways) is also increasing and increasingDec 21 07:17
schestowitzfaster, or, somewhat simpler put, the likes of OracleDec 21 07:17
schestowitzare increasingly dumping their abandonware (likeDec 21 07:17
schestowitzOpenOffice) onto the Apache foundation. Dec 21 07:17
schestowitz"Dec 21 07:17
DaemonFCthere are a lot of corporate sponsored open source software projects that use simple permissive licensesDec 21 07:18
DaemonFCbecause they want to give you the code then sue you for using it if they thing you're a worthy targetDec 21 07:19
schestowitz"for a time Microsoft paid for "Domain Parking" providers to use their web server" http://is.gd/FqprUIDec 21 07:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Today - On the continuing decline of the GPL .::. Size~: 53.28 KBDec 21 07:19
DaemonFCthe GPL doesn't let them give you code then sue you for taking itDec 21 07:19
DaemonFClots of free software projects end up relying on this open source stuff where the company behind it didn't include a license for any of the patents they may hold on itDec 21 07:20
DaemonFCLLVM ended up like thatDec 21 07:20
DaemonFCit wouldn't surprise me if Apple sued companies who thought they'd bury LLVM into their productDec 21 07:21
schestowitz"that happens because of the huge success of the GPL. " http://is.gd/jFGWw4 #BlackDuck = ex-MS marketing exec http://is.gd/44yrU0Dec 21 07:22
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Black Duck - Techrights .::. Size~: 17.26 KBDec 21 07:22
DaemonFCThe CDDL has a patent grant for the recipient Dec 21 07:23
DaemonFCas does the MPLDec 21 07:23
DaemonFCand the Apache license doesDec 21 07:23
DaemonFCthe biggest reason I can think of to use MIT or BSD licensing is so you can reserve the right to sue people who pick up the code you gave themDec 21 07:23
schestowitz"there is this thing called the GPL, which we disagree with." Bill Gates, April 2008Dec 21 07:24
DaemonFCwell, I was going to step out on the porch to smokeDec 21 07:26
DaemonFCbutDec 21 07:26
DaemonFCI hear Dawn over there having one of her histrionic episodesDec 21 07:26
DaemonFCshe doesn't sleepDec 21 07:27
DaemonFCI wonder if she's a vampire or a wraith Dec 21 07:27
*DaemonFC goes to the kitchen to hang his head out the window to smokeDec 21 07:27
DaemonFCI can't stand the smell of lingering tobaccoDec 21 07:27
DaemonFCto say nothing of it getting all over my expensive stuffDec 21 07:27
schestowitzOpen Source receives official support in Rio de Janeiro (Brazil)  http://www.opensource.org/node/593 #brazilDec 21 07:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Source receives official support in Rio de Janeiro (Brazil)  | Open Source Initiative .::. Size~: 8.47 KBDec 21 07:31
schestowitz"Do you think it will be available in normal updates in a few days?" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1075601 not sure...Dec 21 07:35
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schestowitz"oh sorry it's a live version...forget my question ;-)"Dec 21 07:35
schestowitzIs Google prepping a Nexus tablet?  http://is.gd/LdKnSI #linuxDec 21 07:38
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schestowitz#Linux Kernel Milestones in 2011  https://www.linux.com/news/featured-blogs/196-zonker/527985-linux-kernel-milestones-in-2011 #fossDec 21 07:43
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schestowitzAn Open Letter From Internet Engineers to the U.S. CongressDec 21 07:45
schestowitz http://is.gd/aN0K9xDec 21 07:45
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schestowitzLinks 21/12/2011: Munich Migration to GNU/Linux a Success, Apache Promises OpenOffice.org 3.4 http://techrights.org/2011/12/21/munich-migration/Dec 21 08:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 21/12/2011: Munich Migration to GNU/Linux a Success, Apache Promises OpenOffice.org 3.4 | Techrights .::. Size~: 102.12 KBDec 21 08:02
schestowitzReview: Chrome, the Sweet 16 Web Browser? http://is.gd/tFdOCq #chromeDec 21 08:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Review: Chrome, the Sweet 16 Web Browser? | ZDNet .::. Size~: 162.92 KBDec 21 08:24
schestowitzSelf-censorship just got renamed "Self-regulation" http://is.gd/5WAZVxDec 21 08:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Rights Group | Self-regulation / private policing: not just a UK problem .::. Size~: 13.34 KBDec 21 08:24
DaemonFChttp://lifehacker.com/5869254/fprivacy-lets-you-grant-or-revoke-specific-facebook-app-permissionsDec 21 08:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: fPrivacy Lets You Grant or Revoke Specific Facebook App Permissions .::. Size~: 83.07 KBDec 21 08:27
DaemonFCI'm using Chromium more and more now that Chrome Adblock is working well enoughDec 21 08:27
schestowitzGnome 3.2 Arrives In Debian Unstable ("sid")  http://is.gd/8bg4Sv #Debian #gnomeDec 21 08:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Gnome 3.2 Arrives In Debian Unstable ("sid") | Muktware .::. Size~: 35.11 KBDec 21 08:29
schestowitzadblock+?Dec 21 08:29
schestowitzTwitter Buys Crypto Tech, Then Open-Sources It http://is.gd/OkoeZo #twitterDec 21 08:31
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schestowitzGet Rid Of Unity And Restore The Old Ubuntu Look http://is.gd/9tbGk2 #unity #ubuntuDec 21 08:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Get Rid Of Unity And Restore The Old Ubuntu Look | Lifehacker Australia .::. Size~: 25.82 KBDec 21 08:33
schestowitz'Lite version' of Ubuntu takes Nook Tablet for a spin, ROM can't come soon enough (video) http://is.gd/n30mDE #ubuntu #nookDec 21 08:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 'Lite version' of Ubuntu takes Nook Tablet for a spin, ROM can't come soon enough (video) -- Engadget .::. Size~: 67.48 KBDec 21 08:34
DaemonFCschestowitz: noDec 21 08:48
DaemonFChttp://code.google.com/p/adblockforchrome/Dec 21 08:49
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DaemonFCjono fights for the userDec 21 09:13
DaemonFCor maybe that was TronDec 21 09:13
DaemonFCyeah, TronDec 21 09:13
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schestowitzWindows is still used on many computers, study finds http://is.gd/CSk6D8Dec 21 09:30
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schestowitzchrome is scaryDec 21 09:30
DaemonFCChromium is just the open source componentsDec 21 09:32
schestowitzInside Anti-SOPA Darrell Issa's Laboratory for Digital Democracy http://is.gd/JvT7fI #sopaDec 21 09:32
DaemonFCwithout the proprietary Google crapDec 21 09:32
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DaemonFCI think it's probably better to recommend ChromiumDec 21 09:33
DaemonFCit's not like you're missing out on anything important, just a bunch of crap that does who knows what behind your backDec 21 09:33
scienteslol Darrell Issa--search for daily show money for nothingDec 21 09:34
scientesneways good nightDec 21 09:34
scientesalso schestowitz can i see the TechrightsBot-tr code sometime?Dec 21 09:34
scientesprivate message me or something so i can look at it laterDec 21 09:34
scientesthxDec 21 09:34
schestowitzAmarok 2.5 adds GPodder support http://is.gd/2EeW7N #amarok #kdeDec 21 09:36
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schestowitzscientes: it's publicDec 21 09:36
schestowitzhand on..Dec 21 09:36
schestowitzhttps://bitbucket.org/trmanco/phirceDec 21 09:38
schestowitz*hangDec 21 09:38
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schestowitz#RedHat CEO Explains Open Source Success http://is.gd/huq3wtDec 21 09:41
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schestowitzGitHub's Janky Goes Open Source http://is.gd/zdgXmX #git #githubDec 21 09:44
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DaemonFCschestowitz: I still can't believe Red Hat would stick their customers with GNOME 3Dec 21 09:54
DaemonFCmakes me wonder what's going to happen when RHEL 7 gets here with a GNOME desktop that's completely inappropriate as a workstationDec 21 09:55
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schestowitzI think they should use kdeDec 21 09:56
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DaemonFChttp://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?65695-Qt-4.8-Draws-In-Platform-Abstraction-New-WebKit&p=242691#post242691Dec 21 10:20
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DaemonFChttp://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/orders/Dec 21 10:35
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iophkhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/12/21/google_mozilla_extend_deal/Dec 21 11:45
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iophkSo the bluff with Bing got called presumably.Dec 21 11:46
oiaohmiophk: Not reallyDec 21 11:47
oiaohmGoogle and Mozilla go threw a nice public dance generates a lot of free adveristing for both.Dec 21 11:48
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MinceR(flash) (video) (audio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-PeQBV5TDgDec 21 13:00
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oiaohmNice video MinceRDec 21 13:27
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schestowitzwow. identica is still downDec 21 15:26
schestowitzbeen out in town and swimming and stuff hoping identica will have come back by the time I get back. Maybe it'll stay down over xmas too, who knows?Dec 21 15:27
schestowitz[11:46] <iophk> So the bluff with Bing got called presumably.Dec 21 15:27
schestowitzmozilla had to play hard to getDec 21 15:27
iophkDid it work?  Did they get a better price?Dec 21 15:30
iophkIt wasn't a credible threat, going with Bing would have killed off FFDec 21 15:30
schestowitzMinceR: great videoDec 21 15:30
schestowitzI Could Just Murder You A History of Government on Earth http://is.gd/KbDqZk #funny #trueDec 21 15:32
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schestowitzThe Old Novell Sheds Light on Microsoft Abuses http://is.gd/4mAKEx #antitrust #novell #microsoft #wordperfectDec 21 15:44
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schestowitzFrom #SUSE and Novell Straight to Fog Computing http://is.gd/YmDBmY #novellDec 21 15:55
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schestowitzLatest Patent Attacks on Linux/Android and Why They Matter http://is.gd/o4nWBY #android #linux #swpatsDec 21 16:22
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schestowitz"when 4 came along, i switched to uzbl. :) currently revisiting it, on firefox8. ... not fussed. will go back to purely uzbl soooooon. much more productive that way. " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1075542Dec 21 16:32
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schestowitz"I was very sceptical when twitter bought whisper systems and thought that now the whisper system's products were Doomed. but it good to know that twitter is now going to release all the code under GPL. " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1075882Dec 21 16:34
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schestowitzGPLDec 21 16:34
schestowitzTell Black *uckDec 21 16:35
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1073889 "kde now a real conservative desktop"Dec 21 16:35
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1076125 "That news story is coded in hipster-coder newspeak. I'm not sure what Janky is, but I'm glad GitHub is making small steps towards Free Software. I'll be sticking to Gitorious until the GitHub platform itself is Free however."Dec 21 16:35
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schestowitzany simple way in konvrsation or another IRC client to decouple channels into separate windows?Dec 21 17:32
msb__Interesting coincidence:  I've had my domain for about ten years, and nobody complained about the Martian street address I put in the domain record because I'd received death threats.Dec 21 17:55
msb__I just got an e-mail from my domain registrar, saying there's been a complaint and I have to put in my real address.Dec 21 17:56
msb__This is less than a month after Brandon Ender Lozza posted an article in COLA titled something like "cosmicpenguin.com -- home of pirated music" because I'd put part of a youtube video on my site and posted the url in this channel, but hadn't otherwise made the file visible to the public.  He was trying to get me in trouble with the law.Dec 21 17:58
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iophkschestowitz: tabs in pidgin can be dragged out to create new windowDec 21 18:19
iophkThey can't be folder back in again.Dec 21 18:20
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schestowitzCruising past hundreds of plasmoids, just found several that provide konsole on the desktop. Many incompatible. #kdeDec 21 18:21
schestowitzmany plasmois don't workDec 21 18:32
schestowitzI try to shove many things on my monitoring screenDec 21 18:32
schestowitzinc. techrights load cause it gets slow sometimes and needs interventionDec 21 18:32
schestowitzI installed about 10 widgets just nowDec 21 18:32
schestowitzOne of them is a nagios trcakerDec 21 18:32
schestowitzmany of the konsole/terminal ones don't workDec 21 18:33
schestowitzbut I use kde 4.4, maybe that's whyDec 21 18:33
schestowitzI also try in 4.5Dec 21 18:33
schestowitzI am testing a wallpaper that diplays the time using a special theme, but cannot quite see the attractionDec 21 18:33
schestowitzkde is becoming very extensible and many devs have been submissing so many pythin-based widgets as projectsDec 21 18:34
schestowitzSome are fairly crap proof of conceptDec 21 18:38
schestowitzbut you can install conveniently and sort by ratingsDec 21 18:39
iophkAre M$ and Nokia considering going after RIM to take out BB?Dec 21 18:39
schestowitzso many great ones, I just mass downloaDec 21 18:39
schestowitzdo they>?Dec 21 18:39
schestowitzI thought MS had b0nged BBDec 21 18:39
MinceRi thought BB was dying without assistance :>Dec 21 18:40
iophkThat is part of 'the slog'Dec 21 18:41
iophkBB is suffering from bad pressDec 21 18:41
schestowitzI've just gone through about 200 plasmids, so now I have a good idea of what's out there in case I need it. I regret now checking it out years ago, Today is boring, so....Dec 21 18:50
schestowitziophk: BB sucksDec 21 18:50
schestowitzMy friend who has one showed me how it's used this year and even in this latest version they lad behind AndroidDec 21 18:50
schestowitzPart of their problem is 3rd party appsDec 21 18:50
iophkI haven't used it but figure the market is better with more competition, especially since NokiaDec 21 18:51
schestowitzMuch of the rest can be done OK and the hw is decentDec 21 18:51
iophkAndroid is way ahead and will stay ahead of BBDec 21 18:51
MinceRi'd prefer some real competition to androidDec 21 18:51
MinceRnot the "we have no products but we'll kill you anyway" kind (crApple, m$) or the dying kind (BB)Dec 21 18:51
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1077960 "Originally I was looking for docked terminal emulators"Dec 21 19:51
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 502 Bad GatewayDec 21 19:51
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schestowitzHey, _goblin, wireless? :-)Dec 21 19:56
_goblinyeahDec 21 19:57
_goblintethered at momentDec 21 19:57
_goblinbt line has been removedDec 21 19:57
_goblino2 has goneDec 21 19:57
_goblinwaiting for switch on from skyDec 21 19:57
scientesschestowitz, you got source of the google part of that bot?Dec 21 19:59
schestowitzYes, it is in thereDec 21 20:00
schestowitzit uses another libraryDec 21 20:00
schestowitzor moduleDec 21 20:00
schestowitzwhich was hard to install on centos because it was not in the reposDec 21 20:00
schestowitzjson iircDec 21 20:01
schestowitz_goblin: my desktops are aflood with plasmoids todayDec 21 20:01
scientesall the googl json api with max 100 reqs and api keyDec 21 20:01
schestowitzI went plasmoid shoppingDec 21 20:01
schestowitzeven my terminals are not translucent widgetsDec 21 20:01
schestowitz*nowDec 21 20:02
scientespic!Dec 21 20:02
schestowitzpic?Dec 21 20:02
schestowitzoh my desktops?Dec 21 20:02
scientesyeahDec 21 20:02
schestowitzI'd need to hide some stuff to publish screenshotsDec 21 20:02
schestowitzFor several years I publish real-time snapshots of my desktop over the Web, but they were scaled down to make it hard to read what I was readingDec 21 20:03
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schestowitz_goblin: diaspora and identica are both down. When does twiter colapse too?Dec 21 20:16
schestowitzTwitter has been very stable since that DDOS attack from RussiaDec 21 20:17
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schestowitzhey DaemonFCDec 21 20:20
schestowitzare you on kde, still?Dec 21 20:20
schestowitzI got some powwow to have w/ youDec 21 20:20
DaemonFCyeahDec 21 20:20
schestowitzI kde 4.5 it comes withn globeDec 21 20:20
schestowitzand with weatherDec 21 20:20
schestowitzwhere i assume wallpaper is chosen based on local weatherDec 21 20:21
schestowitzbut today I found a clock wallpaperDec 21 20:21
schestowitzamong the plasmoidsDec 21 20:21
schestowitzwhich would possibly help address the needs of _goblinDec 21 20:21
schestowitzand then I went through tons of plasmoids, didn't realise how useful some were... back when I checked them years ago it was tepidDec 21 20:21
_goblinI sorted that one out a while ago!Dec 21 20:22
_goblinnow I know its okDec 21 20:22
_goblinits just knowingDec 21 20:22
schestowitzplasmoids are easily installableDec 21 20:22
_goblinbtw that reminds meDec 21 20:22
schestowitzeasier than with proprietary OSes, same for adding wallpapers, plasma themes, etc.Dec 21 20:23
_goblinwhy cant you just right click on the desktop to change the wallpaper...?Dec 21 20:23
schestowitzin kde 3 it was not easyDec 21 20:23
schestowitzI remember spending hours trying to install superkaramba in SUSE 9.x around 2005 or 06Dec 21 20:23
_goblinevery other desktop/os Ive used offers that facility.....not the kde desktop topDec 21 20:23
schestowitz_goblin: you canDec 21 20:23
_goblinits like a point and click adventure game to find the featureDec 21 20:23
schestowitzright click, then clock the change wallpaper thingDec 21 20:23
_goblinnot with defaultsDec 21 20:24
DaemonFCSuperkaramba liked to crash a lot even after you managed to wedge it inDec 21 20:24
schestowitz"Next Wallpaper Image:"Dec 21 20:24
DaemonFCat least in my caseDec 21 20:24
schestowitz[if you have multiple]Dec 21 20:24
schestowitzgfor me they change every 20 seconds on each screen separatelyDec 21 20:24
_goblinnope..... not in my kde releaseDec 21 20:24
schestowitz_goblin: the option is at the bottom of the context menu, you can't miss itDec 21 20:24
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schestowitzpclos?Dec 21 20:25
DaemonFCyou mean under desktop settings? :)Dec 21 20:25
_goblinI'll double check now...I'll run upstairs... Dec 21 20:25
_goblinI'm 100% sure thoughDec 21 20:25
_goblinstand byDec 21 20:25
schestowitzRight-click desktop -> Next Wallpaper ImageDec 21 20:25
schestowitzIt's not complicated at all -- and cannot be achieved in Win32 by defaulyDec 21 20:26
_goblinnopeDec 21 20:26
_goblinlast option isDec 21 20:26
schestowitzMake sure you have wallpaper slideshowDec 21 20:26
_goblinfolder view settingsDec 21 20:26
schestowitzotherwise it won't know where to draw a pic fromDec 21 20:26
schestowitzoh waitDec 21 20:26
schestowitzyou use pclosDec 21 20:26
schestowitzI think they use that kde3-style desktop by defaultDec 21 20:26
_goblinall the other items are either clipboard related or to do with unlocking widgetsDec 21 20:27
schestowitzso you hover over non-empty desktop spaceDec 21 20:27
schestowitzfor my dad it's set like thisDec 21 20:27
_goblinits ok...i know how to do it....Dec 21 20:27
_goblingo to activites...Dec 21 20:27
_goblingo to unlock widgetsDec 21 20:27
_goblingo to one of the menus there (which has nothing to do with wallpaper)Dec 21 20:27
_goblinthen I can find itDec 21 20:27
_goblinnot sure I want a rotating wallpaper thoughDec 21 20:28
schestowitz_goblin: maybe you would like to do what I do for fun... and toss all personal and other photos in one parent directory, then set that on randomDec 21 20:28
_goblinsounds rather a waste of cpu cycles when most of my apps run maximised and I very rarely climse the wallpaperDec 21 20:28
schestowitzoh, your widgets were locked..Dec 21 20:28
_goblinglimseDec 21 20:28
schestowitzit doesn't spend much cpu timeDec 21 20:28
schestowitznot if you change every, say, 5 minutesDec 21 20:29
schestowitzmaybe needs half a second of cpu... once in 300 secondsDec 21 20:29
_goblinsince I  only really see the wallpaper on boot-up.....its still a waste for it to be dithering around in the background no matter how little resources it takesDec 21 20:29
schestowitzand on round robin scheduler it will scale ok and not interfere too much with other processesDec 21 20:29
schestowitz_goblin: set windows to transluent, not entirelyDec 21 20:30
schestowitzI had to do that for the reason you mentioned and you can animate translucency levelsDec 21 20:31
_goblinI find it funny when people make the terminal transparent..... I think its a sign of leetness you know! :)Dec 21 20:31
_goblinpersonally I like it now green on black....Dec 21 20:32
_goblintraditional....simple....Dec 21 20:32
_goblinand probably boringDec 21 20:32
schestowitzoccasionally I run killall plasma-desktop  krunner  kmix  kxkb klauncher klipper &&  plasma-desktop  && krunner &&  kmix &&  klipper && kxkb && ~/getswap-sorted.shDec 21 20:32
schestowitzto take soem processes off the swapDec 21 20:32
schestowitzand reduce disk accessDec 21 20:32
schestowitzyeah, terminals are otherwise uglyDec 21 20:33
schestowitzyou need to add some background to themDec 21 20:33
schestowitzthem can uglify the desktop otherwiseDec 21 20:33
schestowitzthe fonts are now antialiased in many of them like konsole and xtermDec 21 20:33
DaemonFChttp://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?23076-Apple-Rolls-Out-WebKit2-But-No-Linux-Love-Yet&p=242743#post242743Dec 21 20:40
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schestowitzApple doesn't like LinuxDec 21 20:41
schestowitzBut go ahead and find Steve Jobs talking about it, unlike WozDec 21 20:41
MinceRwoz talks about linux outside the context of "free software is bad because it's gratis"?Dec 21 20:43
MinceR(or the context of "i so love apple products even though i know they're shit")Dec 21 20:44
schestowitzyeahDec 21 20:44
schestowitzI know of some incidents where he insinuated that Apple's products are most buggyDec 21 20:45
schestowitznot so shiiny at allDec 21 20:45
MinceRwhere he talks about having a "backup" mobile phone beside the hypePhone he loves so much?Dec 21 20:45
schestowitzthat's why he carries around Android phones... in case he needs something to be relied uponDec 21 20:45
schestowitzbeat me to it.Dec 21 20:45
schestowitziPhone is a survival kitDec 21 20:46
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DaemonFCApple's first response to the Safari Carpet Bombing bug, was that users should close the browser while under attack and hope they got to the X button in timeDec 21 20:46
DaemonFCthen they took months to issue a proper fix while there was malware spreading via that flawDec 21 20:46
schestowitzhe can light fire with it for warmth while he makes calls for help from Android/LinuxDec 21 20:46
MinceRDaemonFC: which bug is that?Dec 21 20:47
DaemonFCthe one where Safari downloaded Windows malware and then told Internet Explorer to execute it, which it didDec 21 20:48
DaemonFC:)Dec 21 20:48
MinceRlolDec 21 20:48
schestowitzLet's see what Jimbo's site says about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_koreaDec 21 20:48
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DaemonFChttp://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/No-privilege-Android-remote-shell-demonstrated-by-researcher-1399567.htmlDec 21 20:49
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MinceRuglyDec 21 20:50
MinceRbut hey, at least it might help users root their phones :>Dec 21 20:51
DaemonFChttp://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Critical-holes-in-Firefox-Thunderbird-and-SeaMonkey-1399340.htmlDec 21 20:52
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DaemonFCI don't get why they support TheoraDec 21 20:52
DaemonFCthere's no reason to other than letting it sit there and spring leaksDec 21 20:52
DaemonFCpeople should be using VP8Dec 21 20:53
DaemonFCEternal President Kim Il-sungDec 21 20:54
DaemonFCniceDec 21 20:54
DaemonFChe rules from beyond the graveDec 21 20:54
MinceRindeedDec 21 20:55
MinceRit's a necrocracyDec 21 20:55
MinceRi wonder what they'll do about jong-ilDec 21 20:55
DaemonFChttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_President_of_the_RepublicDec 21 20:55
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MinceRgive him another eternal title or forget him? :>Dec 21 20:55
DaemonFC""Eternal President of the Republic" only appears in the preface, not in the functional text of the constitution and it is not associated with any government office with particular responsibilities, powers, privileges, etc."Dec 21 20:55
schestowitzThose pictures are always funny http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kim_Il-sung.jpgDec 21 20:56
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DaemonFCthe duties involve rotting, stinking, and serving as a propaganda tool to help control peasants Dec 21 20:56
schestowitzWikipedia's article seems toned down and balancedDec 21 20:56
schestowitzThe dudes on those pics usually look like they have makeup and mascara and stuffDec 21 20:57
DaemonFCschestowitz: The people are required by the constitution to like a corpse and to only say good things about the corpse from when the corpse was aliveDec 21 20:57
schestowitzand they hold some books like a bible with silly uniformDec 21 20:57
DaemonFCthat's like, wowDec 21 20:57
DaemonFCnot even Iran is that badDec 21 20:57
schestowitzI have a Korean friend who is a KimDec 21 20:58
schestowitzShe left Korea for the UK, now she's in the USDec 21 20:58
schestowitzShe smiles sometimesDec 21 20:59
schestowitzIt's allowedDec 21 20:59
DaemonFCI knew that's why I paid taxesDec 21 20:59
DaemonFC:)Dec 21 20:59
DaemonFCyou can smile, it's ok, we won't shoot you in the streetDec 21 20:59
DaemonFC:DDec 21 20:59
schestowitzthe cops might smile... or grinDec 21 21:03
schestowitzI heard from two people that people are said in NKoreaDec 21 21:03
schestowitzJust an illusion  of contentmentDec 21 21:03
schestowitzA country of 25 million and 10 million are drafted to the militaryDec 21 21:04
schestowitzThat's like having all the man assigned to itDec 21 21:04
schestowitzbut they have a space program too, alongside the nuclear oneDec 21 21:04
schestowitzhow many warheads do they have and how many magatons each?Dec 21 21:04
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schestowitzthe space program makes sense if they develop long-range missilesDec 21 21:04
schestowitzsame technology, rocket science and propelling objects above the stratosphereDec 21 21:05
DrPizza  space programmes are all a way of subsidizing ICBM tech without making it seem like you're levelling up your weaponsDec 21 21:05
schestowitzthe US did this tooDec 21 21:05
DrPizzayesDec 21 21:05
schestowitzI have a famous speech of how the US president span itDec 21 21:06
schestowitzcontrolling space like it's some kind of Star Trek gameDec 21 21:06
schestowitzThe US didn't have much of a space programme before they recruited some Nazis who developers the bombs which fell on LondonDec 21 21:06
schestowitz*developedDec 21 21:06
schestowitzNA[SA|zis] :-)Dec 21 21:07
DrPizzathe US and USSR both did a land grab for nazi rocketeersDec 21 21:07
DrPizzaalthough the US actually had plenty of homegrown experts tooDec 21 21:07
schestowitzyeahDec 21 21:07
schestowitzanyway, now it's fashionable to disguise weapons programmes as "Defence" and "Energy"Dec 21 21:08
schestowitzWith all those nuclear power plants about...Dec 21 21:08
DaemonFCI wonder what became of Prompt Global StrikeDec 21 21:10
DaemonFCexpensive ICBM with a conventional warheadDec 21 21:10
DrPizzayou can't do thatDec 21 21:10
DrPizzathere's no way to distinguish the kind of warheadDec 21 21:10
DrPizzaso as soon as you launch an ICBMDec 21 21:10
DaemonFCyou know, so you have to call the Chinese and say "It not for you, take day off!"Dec 21 21:10
DaemonFC:)Dec 21 21:10
DrPizzathe russians wipe you off the planetDec 21 21:10
DaemonFC!google prompt global strikeDec 21 21:11
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Prompt Global Strike - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prompt_Global_StrikeDec 21 21:11
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - U.S. Faces Choice on New Weapons for Fast Strikes - NYTimes.com | http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/23/world/europe/23strike.htmlDec 21 21:11
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Hypersonic Cruise Missile: America's New Global Strike Weapon ... | http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/4203874Dec 21 21:11
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Prompt Global Strike - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DbulcYzTCdTcDec 21 21:11
MinceRso just take a warheadless ICBM to your target country and fire it towards russia ;)Dec 21 21:11
DaemonFCMinceR: They can deliver UAVs anywhere in the world within an hour as wellDec 21 21:13
DaemonFCit doesn't have to be a warheadDec 21 21:13
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MinceR(flash) (video) (audio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB3g6mXLEKkDec 21 21:24
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schestowitzOh, that's oldDec 21 21:27
schestowitzI saw that ages ago and he made a newer oneDec 21 21:27
schestowitzIIRC he's now teaching English in the US (he's Australia), so no time to make no such videosDec 21 21:28
DaemonFCschestowitz: I prefer the lolcat bibleDec 21 21:29
DaemonFCNo can has teh buttsecks, kthxbai!Dec 21 21:29
MinceRy helo tharDec 21 21:30
schestowitzdo you believe in thor?Dec 21 21:30
DaemonFCif I say no, are you going to burn me?Dec 21 21:34
DaemonFC:DDec 21 21:34
__Goblinschestowitz: well....there are no ice giants about, so I'd say yes!Dec 21 21:35
schestowitzno, it's another one from Non-stamp collectorDec 21 21:35
schestowitzHe made another popular videoDec 21 21:35
schestowitzself-explanatoryDec 21 21:35
MinceRyou can't have Thursday without Thor!Dec 21 21:35
schestowitzI can't believe you have moral without believing in... well, SOMETHINGDec 21 21:36
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0A4_bwCaX0&feature=relmfuDec 21 21:36
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schestowitzSometimes when caught in these conversations you need to claim to just be agnosticDec 21 21:36
schestowitzMinceR: did you buy lumber and products made in China for the annual pagan festival?Dec 21 21:36
MinceRnot yetDec 21 21:37
MinceRand i'm not sure if the lumber will really be from chinaDec 21 21:37
schestowitzno celebration of end of harvest thenDec 21 21:37
MinceRin fact, it's pretty unlikelyDec 21 21:37
MinceRwell, i suspect there will be some sort of celebration of the winter solsticeDec 21 21:37
schestowitzthe products other than the lumber usually come from thereDec 21 21:37
MinceRrightDec 21 21:37
DaemonFCThey have this ridiculous commercial for Old Navy on TV now, with a grandma robot knitting sweaters for peopleDec 21 21:37
MinceRi think i've misunderstood you :)Dec 21 21:37
schestowitzclothes, toys, electronics...Dec 21 21:38
DaemonFCI think I muttered "Grandma robot is a 5 year old in Honduras working 70 hour weeks"Dec 21 21:38
schestowitzMinceR: that tooDec 21 21:38
schestowitzbut not accurately, as it is not celebrated tonightDec 21 21:38
schestowitzDaemonFC: 70 hours a week is not TOO badDec 21 21:39
DaemonFCschestowitz: The Catholic church should be a role model to us all. Just look at how horrified they were at the genocide in Croatia......oh right :)Dec 21 21:39
schestowitzI have some friends who work this much and theitr contract says 40 hours with unpaid overtimeDec 21 21:39
schestowitzand they get 'free' phones from $employer to be buggered at homeDec 21 21:39
DaemonFC(they collaborated in exchange for the state allowing them to force people to convert to Catholicism)Dec 21 21:40
DaemonFCyou know, just like Jesus would have doneDec 21 21:40
schestowitzDaemonFC: watch this new video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T8Y1-VLjGQ&feature=digest_monDec 21 21:40
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DaemonFChttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jasenovac_concentration_campDec 21 21:41
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schestowitzSeth put money and effort into it... won't be TV safe if you know what I mean, as it might upset some viewersDec 21 21:41
DaemonFCThe recipe, received by the Ustashe leader and poglawnik, the president of the Independent State of Croatia, Ante Pavelic, resembles to the bloodiest religious wars: "A third must become Catholic, a third must leave the country, and a third must die!" This last point of their program was accomplished. When prominent Ustasha leaders claimed that they slaughtered a million Serbs, that is, in my opinion, a boastful exaggeration. On the basis of the Dec 21 21:41
DaemonFCreports submitted to me, I believe that the number of defenseless victims slaughtered to be three quarters of a million.[151]Dec 21 21:41
MinceRschestowitz: well, it took people back in the day to realize the length of the days was changingDec 21 21:42
MinceRlack of accurate clocks and all thatDec 21 21:42
schestowitzDaemonFC: is that a continuation of the discussion we had days ago?Dec 21 21:42
schestowitzMinceR: yeah, I was gonna sauDec 21 21:42
schestowitzbut it oughtn't be too hardDec 21 21:42
schestowitzthey could count number of days in a cycleDec 21 21:42
MinceRalso, the calendar might have driftedDec 21 21:43
schestowitzjust over 365, so need to correct with leapsDec 21 21:43
DaemonFCwell, the Catholics are willing to support genocide if it means that in return, they get special status under that governmentDec 21 21:43
DaemonFCthere's no reason to think they wouldn't do it againDec 21 21:43
schestowitzand then they can just try to use some sun clockDec 21 21:43
schestowitzand see where it peaks over the course of a sunny winterDec 21 21:43
DaemonFCJohn Paul II fast tracked some of the priests that did that in Croatia to "sainthood" in the Catholic churchDec 21 21:43
schestowitzand then keep countDec 21 21:43
schestowitzeven the south Americans (the original ones) had these sorts of clocking devices like 3-4k years ago?Dec 21 21:44
schestowitzlong before the RomansDec 21 21:44
DaemonFCWhen I worked at Walmart, the store manager happened to be a Catholic and put up a big picture of John Paul II in the manager's office after he diedDec 21 21:44
DaemonFCI called the corporate hotline about that and they made her take it downDec 21 21:45
schestowitzhe didn't dieDec 21 21:45
MinceReven nowadays the winter solstice drifts a bitDec 21 21:45
schestowitzhe passed awayDec 21 21:45
schestowitzMinceR: is there a tilt so significant?Dec 21 21:46
MinceRdunnoDec 21 21:46
schestowitzI think the polar tilt has a cycle of like 2100 yearsDec 21 21:46
DaemonFCMinceR: I can't wait for it to be in the middle of JulyDec 21 21:46
DaemonFChow about you? :)Dec 21 21:46
MinceRDaemonFC: they'd probably adjust the calendar before it could get too farDec 21 21:46
schestowitzit's like the Earth is revolving in a small angle that take thousands of years to complete a helix-type thing, which climate scientists take account ofDec 21 21:47
DaemonFCDo we get it named after the person who made the calendar this time or the Catholic pope at the time? Dec 21 21:47
DaemonFC:)Dec 21 21:47
schestowitzthe thing about zodiac signs (among many) is that they are utterly flawed because you don't compare like with like... the dates get shifted all the time and don't keeo in sync with Gregorian calendars at allDec 21 21:48
schestowitzAt some stage a Sagittarius like me won't even have that constellation visible at allDec 21 21:48
schestowitzhey, DaemonFC, wotz yo sign?Dec 21 21:49
DaemonFCAriesDec 21 21:49
schestowitzYou'd do well with dawnDec 21 21:49
DaemonFCoh hell noDec 21 21:49
schestowitzShe's compatible with ALL star signsDec 21 21:49
schestowitzShe's a skankDec 21 21:49
DaemonFCoh hell to the noDec 21 21:49
DaemonFC:)Dec 21 21:49
schestowitz:DDec 21 21:49
DaemonFCthey don't make water hot enough to wash her off of youDec 21 21:50
MinceRi haven't heard of this star sign called Skank... :>Dec 21 21:50
schestowitzit existsDec 21 21:50
schestowitztake some starsDec 21 21:50
schestowitzor dotsDec 21 21:50
schestowitzconnect them to make what you wantDec 21 21:50
schestowitzmake it SFW plsDec 21 21:51
schestowitzwith so many dots you could draw just about anythingDec 21 21:51
MinceR:>Dec 21 21:51
DaemonFCOh look, there's the constellation FSMDec 21 21:51
DaemonFCand the Rather Phallic Nebula Dec 21 21:51
DaemonFCB-)Dec 21 21:51
schestowitzTux constellationDec 21 21:51
schestowitz<oh, kde has a plasmoid that render and animates the solar system based on current time and dateDec 21 21:52
schestowitzbut the graphics are a tad coarse, I removed itDec 21 21:52
DaemonFCthe reason "constellations" have "shapes" that resemble things we are familiar with is the same reason there is a "face" on MarsDec 21 21:52
schestowitzOur brains are wired for this pattern recognitionDec 21 21:53
DaemonFCrightDec 21 21:53
schestowitzand we even find wierd stuff like men on top of horse's bosyDec 21 21:53
schestowitz*bodyDec 21 21:53
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schestowitzcentaur?Dec 21 21:53
schestowitzwas that the word?Dec 21 21:53
schestowitzshow me 100 rocks 10^30 bigger than me and I'll call them "ants" :-)Dec 21 21:54
MinceRa man on top of a horse's body? that isn't so weirdDec 21 21:55
MinceRit's called a "rider" ;)Dec 21 21:55
DaemonFCI found a metal rod in the neighbor's yard with a flat end on one side and repurposed it to mash down garbage to get it to all fit in the new government-issued trash binsDec 21 21:55
DaemonFCthen I get a letter from the city that the garbage trucks have a hard time getting the trash to fall out of my binDec 21 21:56
DaemonFClolDec 21 21:56
DaemonFCthat's their problemDec 21 21:56
DaemonFCthe rules clearly state that if it fits in there and the lid closes, they have to take itDec 21 21:56
MinceR:>Dec 21 21:56
schestowitzMinceR: in folklore they make up things weirder than pink unicornsDec 21 22:02
schestowitzand then they say things like, "you believe in Santa, living Elvis, and  pink unicorns? LOL, that's is preposterous. Now, if you'llexcuse me, there's a prayer meeting for my invisible dad"Dec 21 22:03
schestowitzdid you hear about the new paper estimating that within a few weeks 14k USians died from fllout of Fukushima?Dec 21 22:04
schestowitz*FalloutDec 21 22:04
MinceRi haven'tDec 21 22:04
schestowitzI heard that perhaps a million will have died or born with a defect due to tzar bomba aloneDec 21 22:05
DaemonFChttp://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/12/21/197252/microsoft-says-goodbye-to-cesDec 21 22:05
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DaemonFC 'As we look at all of the new ways we tell our consumer stories,' explained Microsoft's Frank Shaw, 'it feels like the right time to make this transition.'"Dec 21 22:05
DaemonFCUncle Ballmer, tell me story where Windows Phone winsDec 21 22:05
DaemonFCB-)Dec 21 22:05
schestowitz"If I cannot see radiation, I don't worry about it. I believe only what I see, with the exception of deities :-)"Dec 21 22:05
MinceRuncle ballmer, enact the story where the it industry winsDec 21 22:06
schestowitz"And if I get cancer... I will follow the footsteps of deity jobs and just eat berries and mediate... and hope that will make the tumours go away"Dec 21 22:06
MinceR(and m$ loses)Dec 21 22:06
MinceR(and the users win)Dec 21 22:06
schestowitzDaemonFC: they have nothjing new to showDec 21 22:07
schestowitzCES will be full of Android gadgetsDec 21 22:07
MinceRschestowitz: did they ever?Dec 21 22:07
schestowitzit'll be embarrassing for the shy sweaty one to huddle there.Dec 21 22:07
MinceR"look at the new Windows version, same as the previous, except with a new skin and a few GUI gimmicks!"Dec 21 22:07
MinceR"look at the new Office version, same as the previous, except with a new skin and a few GUI gimmicks!"Dec 21 22:07
schestowitzMinceR: yes, they used to... Zune and KIN and stuffDec 21 22:07
schestowitzNow they really have nothingDec 21 22:07
schestowitzNot just "nothing of value"Dec 21 22:08
MinceR:>Dec 21 22:08
schestowitznow you can type docs on white a4 papers.. with BLUE backgroundDec 21 22:08
schestowitzCause THAT'S what it'll look like when you print it !!Dec 21 22:08
MinceRand hunt toolbar buttons in the ribbon for minutesDec 21 22:08
schestowitzOffice 16... now with animated backgroundsDec 21 22:09
MinceRnow you're just assuming that you will really manage to print it :>Dec 21 22:10
DaemonFCNow with 4D ray traced menusDec 21 22:14
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1065070 "It "cleans" the computer of all that unnecessary clutter… like privacy, freedom…"Dec 21 22:14
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schestowitzDaemonFC: more is less?Dec 21 22:15
schestowitzmore is more expensiveDec 21 22:15
schestowitzless productiveDec 21 22:15
schestowitzmore confusingDec 21 22:15
schestowitzmore bloatedDec 21 22:15
schestowitztheir business model relies on selling the same tool over and over againDec 21 22:15
schestowitzhttp://uploads.neatorama.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/centaur1.jpgDec 21 22:16
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MinceR...to the same tools ;)Dec 21 22:16
cubezzzI think I'll just use my old dot matrix printer with CP/M and 64K :)Dec 21 22:16
cubezzzok, maybe not CP/MDec 21 22:17
cubezzzAll operating systems are kind of bloated thoughDec 21 22:19
schestowitzif all things are relative, that's not so possibleDec 21 22:20
cubezzzeventually one upgrades, but the upgrade cycle is ridiculously short nowDec 21 22:22
DaemonFChttp://img197.imageshack.us/img197/1695/snapshot7d.pngDec 21 22:22
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cubezzzand it seems motherboards have less and less expansion slotsDec 21 22:22
schestowitzDaemonFC: there is a plasmoid you can use to upload screenshots like thisDec 21 22:23
cubezzzand there's a general move to more commodity style computers...Dec 21 22:23
schestowitzor any fileDec 21 22:23
schestowitzI found it todaDec 21 22:23
DaemonFChttp://img850.imageshack.us/img850/5555/snapshot8o.pngDec 21 22:23
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DaemonFCKubuntu has a plasma applet to enable the global menuDec 21 22:24
MinceRmore stuff can be done over standard connectors like USB2 and USB3Dec 21 22:24
MinceRso there's less need for expansion slotsDec 21 22:24
MinceRalso, those peripherals work with mobile devicesDec 21 22:24
DaemonFCthe difference is that Kubuntu doesn't hide it from you even though your top panel might have tons of available spaceDec 21 22:24
MinceRmy laptops have ExpressCard slots (except for the netbook), so i don't worry about high-performance ports either :>Dec 21 22:25
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MinceRDaemonFC: ew, no antialiasingDec 21 22:26
cubezzzMinceR, do you ready want all your peripherals to be external to the computer?Dec 21 22:26
cubezzzreallyDec 21 22:26
MinceRusually i prefer them to be externalDec 21 22:26
MinceRand hotpluggableDec 21 22:26
MinceRand isolated from the system bus to some extentDec 21 22:26
MinceRso they can break less stuff and i can move them from one computer to the otherDec 21 22:27
schestowitzDrPizza: install KFaenza icons themeDec 21 22:27
MinceRand so they work with laptops (and in the future, the smartphone and "internet tablet" i'm looking at)Dec 21 22:27
MinceRDaemonFC left :>Dec 21 22:27
cubezzzMinceR, counterexample...Dec 21 22:27
schestowitzIt's like the one Mint 10 uses, I thinkDec 21 22:28
cubezzzthe ethernet card is built in, the sound card is built-in, you can't replace those parts without replacing the entire motherboardDec 21 22:28
MinceRyesDec 21 22:28
MinceRbut i'm doing fine with the built-in onesDec 21 22:28
cubezzzyou end up with a less repairable machineDec 21 22:28
MinceRlaptops tend to be less repairable anywayDec 21 22:28
MinceRand the examples you've cited are much cheaper to build integratedDec 21 22:29
cubezzzgenerally speaking the 80's era stuff was easy to fixDec 21 22:30
cubezzzbut laptops, yes that's differentDec 21 22:30
MinceRif i wanted to, i could buy a USB or IEEE 1394 audio device, but i never felt the needDec 21 22:30
cubezzzexternal devices might be better with RF interferenceDec 21 22:31
MinceRi can't hear the difference between the Intel/Realtek HDA and the AudioTrak Prodigy 7.1 HiFi anyway :>Dec 21 22:31
cubezzzbetter shielded, maybeDec 21 22:31
MinceR(except that the latter is fed with noise from the dead tv tuner unless i disable that input...)Dec 21 22:31
MinceRyes, it could help with an audio deviceDec 21 22:31
cubezzzI'm probably the only one here who still uses 80's era stuffDec 21 22:32
MinceRthough it would probably be better to just use an external DAC connected with a TOSLink cableDec 21 22:32
cubezzzMinceR, the Altair 8800 can play AM radio :)Dec 21 22:32
MinceRnot that my integrated audio devices have TOSLink outputs...Dec 21 22:32
cubezzzno RF shielding at allDec 21 22:32
MinceRmy cell phone can play FM radio :>Dec 21 22:33
MinceRnot that it mattersDec 21 22:33
cubezzzyour cell phone is receiving VF radio signals?Dec 21 22:33
MinceRthe nazis killed (or are in the process of killing) every single station i liked listening toDec 21 22:33
cubezzzor just internet radio?Dec 21 22:33
MinceRit can receive terrestrial radio broadcastDec 21 22:33
cubezzzoh interestingDec 21 22:34
MinceRinterestingly enough, it's the music radio stations that they killed firstDec 21 22:34
MinceRand now they're killing the only talk radio station that they did not controlDec 21 22:34
cubezzzyou still can use HAM radio MinceR :)Dec 21 22:35
MinceRwell, FM radio receiving is a common feature in smartphones stillDec 21 22:35
MinceRor i can just move to Canada or New ZealandDec 21 22:35
MinceRand let the hungarians kill each otherDec 21 22:35
MinceRif that's what they want, who am i to interfere?Dec 21 22:35
cubezzzI can get some radio from my UHF tower, but it's not as good as the old VF antennaDec 21 22:35
cubezzzI thought Hungary would be more progressiveDec 21 22:37
MinceRin what way?Dec 21 22:37
cubezzzmoving away from Communist to DemocracyDec 21 22:38
cubezzzand there's lots of smart HungariansDec 21 22:38
MinceRwell, we did, it did last for 20 yearsDec 21 22:38
MinceRexcept that they were all made of commies left over from the previous dictatorshipDec 21 22:39
*__Goblin is now known as _GoblinDec 21 22:39
MinceRthen on the last big election fidesz/kdnp (still mostly leftover commies) gained 2/3 of the seats in the parliamentDec 21 22:39
*ChanServ gives channel operator status to _GoblinDec 21 22:39
MinceRif the zombies wanted to avoid this, they could have, by voting the other way in the 2nd round of electionsDec 21 22:40
MinceRthey did notDec 21 22:40
MinceRand fidesz/kdnp took advantage of the legal opportunity to destroy democracyDec 21 22:40
MinceRand the zombies didn't complain muchDec 21 22:40
MinceRin the last midterm election, the fidesz/kdnp candidate got over 58% of the votesDec 21 22:40
MinceRso you can see that the voters are OK with dictatorship and a methodical destruction of the economyDec 21 22:41
MinceRi've lost all my faith in the people who live hereDec 21 22:41
cubezzzand they mostly use windows too :)Dec 21 22:41
MinceRin 2006, when a recording where the prime minister said he lied to win the election was leaked, there were massive riots and arsonDec 21 22:41
MinceRnow there were minimal protestsDec 21 22:42
cubezzzoh well, the Canadian Government isn't too good on that score eitherDec 21 22:42
MinceReven after the cable where orban told diplomats _prior to the election_ that he was going to lie to get electedDec 21 22:42
MinceRso hungarian voters in general can go fuck themselves, this is their doingDec 21 22:42
MinceRand this is the reason they'll die of famine or disease or be eaten by the gypsies who remainDec 21 22:42
MinceRi don't careDec 21 22:42
MinceRthey had 20 years to learn how democracy works, they've failed the testDec 21 22:43
cubezzzhmm, seems like there's a world-wide movement towards ConservatismDec 21 22:45
schestowitzthey still call it "democracy"Dec 21 22:45
cubezzzwell, they still have elections so...Dec 21 22:45
MinceRthey called it "democracy" even under the communist dictatorshipDec 21 22:45
schestowitzso does the cult nationDec 21 22:45
schestowitz"North Korea (About this sound listen), officially the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK; Chosŏn'gŭl: 조선민주주의인민공화국), is a country in East Asia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_koreaDec 21 22:45
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MinceRthere were "elections" under the communist dictatorshipDec 21 22:45
cubezzzhow did that work?Dec 21 22:46
MinceRthey did not permit "fascists" (that is, anyone who was not a toady of the russians) to run in the electionsDec 21 22:46
MinceRso the commies got over 90% of the votes every timeDec 21 22:46
MinceRpractically all decisions were made inside the partyDec 21 22:50
MinceRand that is back againDec 21 22:50
cubezzzso which party did you vote for in the last election?Dec 21 22:52
MinceRthere was a time when there really was only one candidate in each race, and the "vote" was expression of disapproval with thatDec 21 22:52
MinceRor something like thatDec 21 22:52
MinceRcubezzz: LMPDec 21 22:54
schestowitzvote? LOLDec 21 22:55
schestowitzbetter roll diceDec 21 22:55
cubezzzGreen Liberalism, interestingDec 21 22:55
cubezzzI was wondering if Hungary had a green partyDec 21 22:55
MinceRwell, of the parties that managed to nominate candidates/lists in my area, i pretty much eliminated all of themDec 21 22:55
MinceRso they were leftDec 21 22:55
MinceRwell, there are multiple "green" parties now, but only one of them could get into the parliament so farDec 21 22:56
MinceRi don't think the others could even nominate listsDec 21 22:56
MinceR(we have this idiotic nomination system which is effectively a non-secret vote)Dec 21 22:57
MinceR(also, we have an idiotic 5% threshold for party lists to get into the parliament)Dec 21 22:57
schestowitzeliminates 'fridge'Dec 21 22:58
schestowitzor newcomersDec 21 22:58
cubezzzwe need fridge to keep our drinks cold :)Dec 21 22:58
MinceRone of the ways to ensure the two-party systemDec 21 22:58
MinceRwhich is being turned into a one-party systemDec 21 22:59
schestowitzthey get a threshold to eliminate rising candidates like Nader, Paul, even racist ones like those right wingersDec 21 22:59
schestowitzcubezzz: fringeDec 21 22:59
cubezzzwell they say Linux is the "fringe"Dec 21 22:59
schestowitzMinceR: join the party, beer is in the fridgeDec 21 22:59
MinceRkeeping the fringe out is a fraudulent argumentDec 21 23:00
schestowitzorban is in the freezerDec 21 23:00
cubezzzbut I don't consider Linux the fringe, stuff like AROS and Plan 9 is the fringeDec 21 23:00
MinceRif they're under 5%, they're nothing to be afraid ofDec 21 23:00
MinceRif they're over 5%, they aren't excluded by the ruleDec 21 23:00
scienteswhat is the similarity between a air conditionier and linux?Dec 21 23:01
scientesoh, shit i fucked up the jokeDec 21 23:01
scientesnvmDec 21 23:01
MinceRall it does is force would-be candidates to join existing parties even if they disagree with them, or be marginalized from the startDec 21 23:01
MinceRbut none of this matters anymoreDec 21 23:01
MinceRthe nazis gave foreigners citizenship with voting rights, allowing them to vote in a country they don't live in and don't pay taxes in, and most of them will vote for the nazis out of gratitudeDec 21 23:02
MinceRand the nazis have gerrymandered all the voting districtsDec 21 23:02
MinceRand they've raised the limits for nomination and for parties to get into the parliamentDec 21 23:03
MinceRso it's pretty much guaranteed that they'll win any elections they decide to keepDec 21 23:03
MinceR(with the help of the idiot majority of the voters, of course)Dec 21 23:03
schestowitzmaybe the Nazis tried to lure back smart people they drove awayDec 21 23:03
MinceRhardlyDec 21 23:03
cubezzzwe need people to actually think about stuffDec 21 23:03
cubezzza lot of people just don't thinkDec 21 23:04
MinceRthe smart people don't live in the surrounding countries where they handed out citizenships mostlyDec 21 23:04
MinceRthey live further to the westDec 21 23:04
schestowitzI know some people who recently got Hungarian nationality without living thereDec 21 23:04
MinceRand they're smart enough to not move back into this cesspitDec 21 23:04
MinceRthey've also put their people into various important seats, with very long terms and only replaceable with a 2/3 voteDec 21 23:05
MinceRso even if they'd lose the election, they could paralyze the next administration completelyDec 21 23:06
schestowitzthey got it all figures outDec 21 23:08
schestowitzcheck mateDec 21 23:08
MinceRit would be time for a revolution, this time with executions (as it should have been the last time), but it will never happenDec 21 23:08
MinceRthe majority likes the dictatorship and the smart non-nazi people have either fled or will fleeDec 21 23:09
MinceRthe rest will die of hunger or disease (since the economy is collapsing and they're also scaring off the medical doctors), and then there will be nobody left to exploitDec 21 23:09
schestowitzor rounded upDec 21 23:12
MinceRwell, i guess orban managed to do what the commies couldn't: made the masses like being impoverished in a dictatorshipDec 21 23:15
schestowitzhttp://www.marketwatch.com/story/surdoc-launches-with-4m-in-funding-from-idg-ventures-new-service-combines-free-secure-automatic-microsoft-windows-data-backup-with-patented-document-sharing-technology-based-on-oasis-global-standard-2011-12-21Dec 21 23:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SurDoc Launches with $4M in Funding from IDG Ventures, New Service Combines Free, Secure Automatic Microsoft Windows Data Backup with Patented Document Sharing Technology Based on OASIS Global Standard - MarketWatch .::. Size~: 78.45 KBDec 21 23:15
schestowitzidg scumDec 21 23:15
MinceRi wonder what this "secure automatic microsoft windows data backup" is supposed to beDec 21 23:16
MinceRprobably shutting down the winblows machine, putting the HDD into a real computer and saving the imageDec 21 23:16
MinceRthough that isn't automaticDec 21 23:16
cubezzzMinceR, I'll never know :)Dec 21 23:16
scienteslolDec 21 23:17
schestowitzvuiktor O'rbran.. is that Irish?Dec 21 23:17
MinceRno, gypsyDec 21 23:17
schestowitzoh. Rban.Dec 21 23:17
schestowitzBrazilan State Mandates Preference To ODF  http://www.muktware.com/news/3126/brazilan-state-mandates-preference-odf #odfDec 21 23:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Brazilan State Mandates Preference To ODF | Muktware .::. Size~: 33.78 KBDec 21 23:19
schestowitz*This* is Big Blue's vision now http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-Wireless/IBM-Gets-iPad-Android-Tablets-Ready-for-Enterprise-With-New-Mobile-Apps-493368/Dec 21 23:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: IBM Gets iPad, Android Tablets Ready for Enterprise With New Mobile Apps - Mobile and Wireless - News & Reviews  - eWeek.com .::. Size~: 70.16 KBDec 21 23:22
schestowitzThey'll also push hypeStuffDec 21 23:22
MinceRlol, sametimeDec 21 23:23
MinceRthe only im service that's worse than that is webex connectDec 21 23:23
MinceRandroid i can understand, but why push hypePads in the first place?Dec 21 23:23
schestowitzask sutorDec 21 23:25
schestowitzhe writes all abouyt emDec 21 23:25
MinceRis that some m$ slave?Dec 21 23:25
schestowitzmakes him feel hip and youngDec 21 23:25
MinceRor crApple slaveDec 21 23:26
schestowitzno, it's ibm's foss execDec 21 23:26
MinceRso ibm failed at finding a foss exec who actually cares about fossDec 21 23:26
scientesARM support of coreboot is awesomeDec 21 23:26
scientes*AMDDec 21 23:26
schestowitzhe made websphereDec 21 23:26
MinceRhow do they support coreboot?Dec 21 23:27
schestowitzlots of proprietaryDec 21 23:27
scienteshttp://blogs.coreboot.org/blog/2011/05/06/amd-commits-to-coreboot/Dec 21 23:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: AMD commits to coreboot .::. Size~: 31.96 KBDec 21 23:29
scienteshttp://blogs.coreboot.org/blog/2011/07/26/amd-adds-family10-g34-coreboot-support/Dec 21 23:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: AMD adds Family10 G34 coreboot support .::. Size~: 29.82 KBDec 21 23:29
MinceRniceDec 21 23:29
scientes"A small side note, this addition put coreboot tree at over a million lines of code."Dec 21 23:29
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1077960 "OK - nothing I know anything about (as an immunologist/assay person)."Dec 21 23:32
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schestowitzdiaspora has some clever peopleDec 21 23:32
scientesis it by invite?Dec 21 23:32
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schestowitzhttp://8bitfuture.tumblr.com/post/14385248885/low-frequency-speaker-system-can-disruptDec 21 23:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 8bit Future - 8 Bit Future — Low frequency speaker system can disrupt... .::. Size~: 82.78 KBDec 21 23:34
schestowitzUS taxpayers fund the militaryDec 21 23:34
schestowitzto develop weapons to fight the taxpayers :-)Dec 21 23:34
MinceRooh, yet another "non-lethal" weaponDec 21 23:35
MinceRi'm sure that suffocation does not killDec 21 23:37
schestowitzIn Soviet Aerican, public battles SELFDec 21 23:37
MinceRafter all, after the first 5 or so minutes you can hold your breath indefinitelyDec 21 23:37
schestowitz MinceR: if this fails, they can try with water (boarding)Dec 21 23:37
schestowitzsome Egyptians recently dies from tear gas or another form of gas made in the USDec 21 23:38
MinceRnah, this is against massesDec 21 23:38
schestowitz"humane gas"Dec 21 23:38
schestowitzand the factory came under fireDec 21 23:38
schestowitzeven women suffocatedDec 21 23:38
schestowitzthe gas cans were past expiration dateDec 21 23:39
MinceRapparently they still worked :>Dec 21 23:39
schestowitztoo wellDec 21 23:39
schestowitzand show from close rangeDec 21 23:39
schestowitz*shotDec 21 23:39
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MinceRi'm sure that shooting a gas can at someone will not kill them :>Dec 21 23:40
schestowitzthe other dy at the pool I heard more BS about UK riotsDec 21 23:40
schestowitzand how the Internet was to blameDec 21 23:40
schestowitzthe woman who told me this does not use computersDec 21 23:40
schestowitzAnd she seems to be associated social sites with scallywags in hoodiesDec 21 23:40
schestowitzwhich is inaneDec 21 23:40
schestowitzin the US, they sell this whole anti-riot thingDec 21 23:41
schestowitzthey just need to sell to the public the story of riots being a threat to the countryDec 21 23:41
MinceRwell, the most prominent social networking site is run by a scallywag in a hoodieDec 21 23:41
MinceR:>Dec 21 23:41
schestowitznot just to the ruling elite which is the real threat to the countryDec 21 23:41
schestowitzMinceR: he's not, he's just a dumb funkDec 21 23:42
MinceRhttp://images.google.com/search?q=fuckerberg+hoodie&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls={moz:distributionID}:{moz:locale}:{moz:official}&biw=1920&bih=953&sei=1m7yTozQKtHMtAbI68nRDw&tbm=ischDec 21 23:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: fuckerberg hoodie - Google Search .::. Size~: 697.1 KBDec 21 23:43
schestowitzRaytheon: funded by taxpayers to protect America? LOL, surely not. Funded by America to protect plutocrats from Americans. #sad #warDec 21 23:45
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schestowitzIntel shows Medfield-based Android phone and tablet prototypes http://goo.gl/bFwVl #intel #linux #androidDec 21 23:48
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schestowitzLibreOffice Backers Want Community to Join 'bug Hunt' http://goo.gl/xpllm #odfDec 21 23:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LibreOffice Backers Want Community to Join 'bug Hunt' | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 75.87 KBDec 21 23:49
schestowitzBreak Up Bank of America Before it Breaks Us  http://goo.gl/3OO7g #wikileaks was about to leak a lot about #BOA but they silenced WLDec 21 23:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Break Up Bank of America Before it Breaks Us  | Center for Media and Democracy .::. Size~: 46.79 KBDec 21 23:51
schestowitzThe House of Saud and the Big Banks Move in on Twitter http://goo.gl/CVXxt #wikileaks relies heavily on Twitter. No #privacy throughDec 21 23:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The House of Saud and the Big Banks Move in on Twitter | Center for Media and Democracy .::. Size~: 44.69 KBDec 21 23:52
schestowitz"Dec 21 23:54
schestowitzWhy docked? I could stick an Eterm where my docks are not but I like having many lines of output to watch what I do.Dec 21 23:54
schestowitzI usually keep a few terminal emulators iconified and my window manager brings them up where I'm working. Kdesktop has an annoying setting that always brings them up in the virtual screen they started. If the work I'm doing is command intensive, it gets it's own Konsole which takes center stage with the work in a 3x3 screen desktop. Most of my work these days can be satisfied with a few tabs in Konsole.Dec 21 23:54
schestowitzWhat were your favorite plasmoids? Kdesktop in Wheezy runs very well and may bring me back to KDE.Dec 21 23:54
schestowitz"Dec 21 23:54
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1077960 I only found one terminal app (Konsole) that works as a plasmoid in 4.4Dec 21 23:55
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schestowitzEdelman is the scum of all scam http://www.prwatch.org/news/2011/12/11196/upcoming-american-petroleum-institute-vote-4-energy-tv-campaign-disrupted-undercoDec 21 23:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Upcoming American Petroleum Institute 'Vote 4 Energy' TV Campaign Disrupted by Undercover Activists | Center for Media and Democracy .::. Size~: 57.22 KBDec 21 23:56
schestowitzCan AstroTurfers be arrested already? They obviously do nothing but harm society for their clientsDec 21 23:57
schestowitzthe law is made bendableDec 21 23:57
schestowitztime to bend it to illegalise those buggersDec 21 23:57
schestowitzbut of course, "perception management" and PR is the pet business of rich bastards who will always keep it legalDec 21 23:58

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