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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] Read part 2 of our series: We want to do more for you! -- www.fsf.org/appeal/2011/part-2-we-want-to-do-more-for-you !fsf !gnu !lp | Dec 24 00:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Another way to support @EFF! Donate to EFF when you buy a theme on tumblr & your donation will be matched: https://eff.org/r.4MH | Dec 24 00:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @x1101 Exactly what is a weird proble | Dec 24 00:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] does changing the water cooler bottle count as a "feat of strength"? I think so | Dec 24 00:10 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.i-programmer.info/news/83-mobliephone/3529-google-app-inventor-shuts-dec-31-with-no-mit-alternative.html | Dec 24 00:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 24 00:13 |
| schestowitz | inventor | Dec 24 00:13 |
| schestowitz | buzzaowrdgasm | Dec 24 00:13 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/87456926 | Dec 24 00:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 23-Dec-11 23:43:24 UTC - Identi.ca: #Android drivers to be included in #Linux 3.3 kernel http://goo.gl/05e2f #google #kernel #collaboration #coordination | Dec 24 00:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Android drivers to be included in Linux 3.3 kernel - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 39.94 KB | Dec 24 00:17 |
| schestowitz | good banners https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1087118 | Dec 24 00:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 24 00:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] okay, installed !mint 12, now why can't the Gnome Shell connect to GMail/GTalk and set the status as available? #Pidgin managed all right. | Dec 24 00:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Despite the Doom and Gloom - My Corny Holiday Message | The Vigilant Citizen - #vc http://goo.gl/22dOo | Dec 24 00:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Despite the Doom and Gloom - My Corny Holiday Message | The Vigilant Citizen .::. Size~: 86.12 KB | Dec 24 00:30 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open source: Pretty much right on track http://ur1.ca/6x070 | Dec 24 00:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Open source: Pretty much right on track | ITworld .::. Size~: 120.69 KB | Dec 24 00:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why the Operating System is becoming irrelevant http://goo.gl/R2zzA #desktop #gnu | Dec 24 00:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why the Operating System is becoming irrelevant | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 57.8 KB | Dec 24 00:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] 2011 in Review: the year government secrecy jumped the shark. https://eff.org/r.2M8 | Dec 24 00:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 2011 in Review: The Year Secrecy Jumped the Shark | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 31.95 KB | Dec 24 00:43 |
| schestowitz | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/apple-loses-one-in-its-ipad-tablet-war-with-samsung/10046 | Dec 24 00:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Apple loses one in its iPad tablet war with Samsung | ZDNet .::. Size~: 151.83 KB | Dec 24 00:49 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 24 00:50 |
| schestowitz | haha Is everything becoming irrelevant to the people @zdnet? here's an article I read long ago | Dec 24 00:50 |
| schestowitz | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/the-new-debian-linux-irrelevant/8218 and here's the response to that http://www.networkworld.com/community/why-debian-matters-more-than-ever (I keep this link for quick access to it, in case I need it LOL) | Dec 24 00:50 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 24 00:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The new Debian Linux: Irrelevant? | ZDNet .::. Size~: 139.68 KB | Dec 24 00:50 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1087417 | Dec 24 00:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 24 00:50 |
| schestowitz | http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/top-tech-stories-of-2011/2011/12/15/gIQA2YzA7O_gallery.html | Dec 24 00:51 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Costliest Presidential Vacation Ever: $4 Million - #mrchange #obama #usa #globalkleptocracy http://goo.gl/Gsa3d | Dec 24 01:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @sirmacik: Desperation: Go Daddy calling customers, begging them to stay http://t.co/TSeEFks5 by @thatdrew on @TNWinsider #boycottGoDaddy | Dec 24 01:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Iran Launching "Massive" Ten Day War Game Tomorrow In Close Proximity To CVN-74 John Stennis | ZeroHedge #wwiii #usa http://goo.gl/gKWfr | Dec 24 01:06 | |
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| schestowitz | http://asay.blogspot.com/2011/12/older-wiser-still-fragile.html | Dec 24 01:08 |
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| schestowitz | http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/vrm/2011/12/23/godaddy-vroomed/ | Dec 24 01:24 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 24 01:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: » GoDaddy VRooMed? ProjectVRM .::. Size~: 38.98 KB | Dec 24 01:24 |
| schestowitz | GoDaddy CEO Warren Adelman says “We listened to our customers. GoDaddy no longer supports SOPA.” (Here’s the GoDaddy blog post.) | Dec 24 01:24 |
| schestowitz | Lauren Weinstein says that’s not the same as opposing SOPA: “they’re the same ethically vacuous firm as always, with their public facade changing like a chameleon, blowing in the wind of Internet public opinion.” | Dec 24 01:24 |
| schestowitz | I still see it as a good sign when a company in a direct personal service business changes its mind because its customers made clear that change was required. | Dec 24 01:24 |
| schestowitz | What I’d like to know now is what GoDaddy customers said to the company personally. (Not just that customers pulled their accounts in protest.) When I know that Warren Adelman and the company turned around because of direct personal pressure, in real conversation with paying customers who wished to remain so — and not just because of negative PR or customers bailing — then I’ll be glad to call it a full VRM move by customers. | Dec 24 01:24 |
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| scientes | I just wrote a whole wikipedia article and then this computer crashed | Dec 24 02:10 |
| scientes | damn ATI binary drivers | Dec 24 02:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | scientes: uh, fuck you. | Dec 24 02:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | quit blaming catalyst for user error | Dec 24 02:11 |
| scientes | Diablo-D3, its not my computer | Dec 24 02:11 |
| scientes | it was totally spondaneous | Dec 24 02:11 |
| scientes | just "reset" | Dec 24 02:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | okay what is your computer plugged into? | Dec 24 02:11 |
| scientes | lets see if I can check the logs from a non-privliaged user | Dec 24 02:11 |
| scientes | the wall | Dec 24 02:11 |
| scientes | perhaps that wasn't it, but it was something | Dec 24 02:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | see, thats it. | Dec 24 02:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | never plug a computer into a wall. | Dec 24 02:12 |
| scientes | this computer is pretty unstable for some reason, perhaps i should test the ram | Dec 24 02:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | plug it into an always online double converting UPS | Dec 24 02:12 |
| scientes | no, it has a surge protector | Dec 24 02:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | and then plug that UPS into a Brickwall surge protector | Dec 24 02:12 |
| scientes | geeze, you aristocrat you | Dec 24 02:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | dude, I am poorer than anyone in this channel | Dec 24 02:13 |
| scientes | even if this wasn't my own, im not rich here | Dec 24 02:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | its purely an insurance policy. | Dec 24 02:13 |
| scientes | the UPS is overkill is most cases | Dec 24 02:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | not quite | Dec 24 02:13 |
| scientes | they are also horribly noisy | Dec 24 02:13 |
| scientes | I couldn't have one in my room cause it made this constant clicking noise | Dec 24 02:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | I wanted a double converter, but a stand alone cost as much as an UPS that does it | Dec 24 02:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | scientes: er | Dec 24 02:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | my UPS is silent | Dec 24 02:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | it has a fan controller that watches temp instead of runs at 100% all the time | Dec 24 02:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | the fan is usually off unless it exceeds 85f in my room | Dec 24 02:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | then it becomes almost silent | Dec 24 02:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | Ive never been able to get it to ramp up full speed | Dec 24 02:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | scientes: at any rate, the reason I use a brickwall and a double converting UPS is to filterout _everything_ | Dec 24 02:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | when you're doing software development, you need a nearly perfect box. | Dec 24 02:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | I have battled the catalyst driver far more than you ever will | Dec 24 02:17 |
| *Diablo-D3 is a developer of an opencl app | Dec 24 02:17 | |
| Diablo-D3 | I can tell you catalyst does not randomly crash | Dec 24 02:17 |
| scientes | oh ok i believe you | Dec 24 02:18 |
| scientes | so why is this computer unstable? | Dec 24 02:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | who knows | Dec 24 02:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | bad power input, PSU going, improperly seated RAM, overheating components, overheating gpu, etc | Dec 24 02:18 |
| scientes | i doubt it is overheating | Dec 24 02:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | Im not saying catalyst cant crash, but the way to make it crash is non-random | Dec 24 02:19 |
| scientes | when nvidia use to crash it only took down X11 | Dec 24 02:19 |
| scientes | I use to have that enough that it was annoying | Dec 24 02:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | catalyst on linux doesnt have a hardware watchdog | Dec 24 02:19 |
| scientes | also firefox use to crash pretty soon after 2GB RAM, don't know if that was fixed | Dec 24 02:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | so if the GPU locks up, the interrupt handler in the linux kernel cant recover | Dec 24 02:19 |
| scientes | all those signed 32-bit ints | Dec 24 02:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | I can usually ssh in and reboot normally though | Dec 24 02:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | scientes: thats been long fixed | Dec 24 02:20 |
| cubezzz3 | UPS is a good idea | Dec 24 02:20 |
| scientes | as they don't support 64 bit on windows... | Dec 24 02:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz3: not ANY UPS though | Dec 24 02:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | only double converting ones. | Dec 24 02:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | its more expensive, but it cleans any shit out of the power input | Dec 24 02:20 |
| cubezzz3 | Diablo-D3, which UPS do you use? | Dec 24 02:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | an eaton powerware | Dec 24 02:21 |
| scientes | Diablo-D3, when was firefox fixed? | Dec 24 02:21 |
| cubezzz3 | here's mine... probably not as good: | Dec 24 02:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Traveler #privacy threatened by new US-EU agreement https://eff.org/r.M9Q HT @ehasbrouck @papersplease | Dec 24 02:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: New Agreement Between the United States and Europe Will Compromise the Privacy Rights of International Travelers | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 38.4 KB | Dec 24 02:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | scientes: I dunno, Ive been running firefox on amd64 for 4-5 years and regularly exceed 2gb usage | Dec 24 02:21 |
| cubezzz3 | http://maxhost.org/cgi-bin/multimon.cgi | Dec 24 02:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Multimon: UPS Status Page .::. Size~: 1.38 KB | Dec 24 02:21 |
| scientes | i remember it from like 2 years ago | Dec 24 02:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | lol APC | Dec 24 02:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | I wont buy APC | Dec 24 02:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | its the Apple/Cisco/Oracle of UPSes. | Dec 24 02:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz3: how much did you pay for it new? | Dec 24 02:23 |
| cubezzz3 | umm | Dec 24 02:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | because thats not double converting, pretty sure | Dec 24 02:24 |
| cubezzz3 | I think it was around 100 bucks | Dec 24 02:24 |
| cubezzz3 | can't rember now | Dec 24 02:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | yeah its not | Dec 24 02:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | not even close | Dec 24 02:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | double converting starts at $400 | Dec 24 02:24 |
| cubezzz3 | hmm, yeah they're expensive | Dec 24 02:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | I have a 9125, btw | Dec 24 02:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | Im not sure what the replacement model is | Dec 24 02:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | its the 1U rackmount version | Dec 24 02:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | I have it sitting on its side under my desk, takes up no room that way | Dec 24 02:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Now that the web is mobile, time to ditch the "documents" mentality. http://is.gd/u4txeo | Dec 24 02:26 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ditching “Documents” | Jonathan Kulp .::. Size~: 17.03 KB | Dec 24 02:26 |
| cubezzz3 | 660 watts, I don't need one that big :) | Dec 24 02:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | they dont come in small sizes | Dec 24 02:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | and mine isnt the smallest one | Dec 24 02:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | the smallest three use the same 1U box, but change the battery | Dec 24 02:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | I got the smallest one with a full size battery inside | Dec 24 02:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | its like 1500VA instead of 700 | Dec 24 02:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | no 1000VA? | Dec 24 02:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | I forget | Dec 24 02:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | I get about 45 minutes out if everything running normally | Dec 24 02:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @eff GoDaddy backpedals on support of #SOPA after massive boycott: https://eff.org/r.2M9 | Dec 24 02:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] No idea what the point of this over-posting thing is. Just to be jerks? | Dec 24 02:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Yeah, I just saw it. Booo. | Dec 24 02:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Media Temple’s stand on SOPA http://identi.ca/url/62971382 !eff | Dec 24 02:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] GoDaddy No Longer Supports SOPA http://identi.ca/url/62971385 !eff | Dec 24 02:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Anonymous threatens net blackout if SOPA passes http://identi.ca/url/62971390 !eff | Dec 24 02:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: GoDaddy No Longer Supports SOPA | TechCrunch .::. Size~: 63.4 KB | Dec 24 02:28 |
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| Diablo-D3 | 1250VA | Dec 24 02:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | I just looked | Dec 24 02:28 |
| cubezzz3 | yeah been a while since I had a power failure > 45 mins | Dec 24 02:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | yeah its rare | Dec 24 02:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | but the only thing I use it for is the double converting | Dec 24 02:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | it was my cheapest useful option | Dec 24 02:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | theres only like three companies that make UPSes that arent shit that do double converting | Dec 24 02:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | and APC is automatically off my list | Dec 24 02:29 |
| cubezzz3 | well, this one gets old I'll get something better next time | Dec 24 02:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | if I ever need more, they make addon batteries for this | Dec 24 02:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Redditors will donate thousands to Wikipedia if they drop GoDaddy http://identi.ca/url/62971416 !eff | Dec 24 02:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Desperation: Go Daddy calling customers, begging them to stay http://identi.ca/url/62971524 !eff | Dec 24 02:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] The only way to stop SOPA http://identi.ca/url/62971547 !eff | Dec 24 02:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] GoDaddy's official statement on dropping SOPA support http://identi.ca/url/62969642 !eff | Dec 24 02:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] First hand report of GoDaddy begging customers to stay http://identi.ca/url/62971568 !eff | Dec 24 02:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Elon Musk says he will put millions of people on Mars for $5 billion http://identi.ca/url/62971579 !science | Dec 24 02:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Walk through an airport with security expert Bruce Schneier http://identi.ca/url/62971645 | Dec 24 02:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] William Gibson and Timothy Leary in conversation, 1989 http://identi.ca/url/62971651 | Dec 24 02:30 | |
| Diablo-D3 | like 3U wide boxes that just plug in | Dec 24 02:30 |
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| Diablo-D3 | it is NOT a surge protector though | Dec 24 02:30 |
| scientes | you only need enough time to save and shut down | Dec 24 02:31 |
| scientes | or even just suspend | Dec 24 02:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | scientes: if I chose to. | Dec 24 02:31 |
| cubezzz3 | uh, what if I'm not home? | Dec 24 02:31 |
| scientes | cubezzz, they have software interfaces for auto suspend | Dec 24 02:31 |
| cubezzz3 | anyway, even the APC will auto-shutdown | Dec 24 02:31 |
| scientes | or shutdown | Dec 24 02:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | http://www.brickwall.com/ | Dec 24 02:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 24 02:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | I have my UPS plugged into their 2 plug computer model | Dec 24 02:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | I have too much wiring under my desk | Dec 24 02:32 |
| cubezzz3 | when we put the circuit-beaker in the electrician put me on a generator for about 6 hours | Dec 24 02:32 |
| cubezzz3 | didn't even go down | Dec 24 02:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | two power strips WITHOUT surge protectors (underline WITHOUT a few times) | Dec 24 02:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | one plugged into UPS, one plugged into surge protector | Dec 24 02:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | so one UPSed, one not | Dec 24 02:32 |
| cubezzz3 | I have 3 UPSes | Dec 24 02:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz3: yeah, thats inefficient | Dec 24 02:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | better to just use one big one | Dec 24 02:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Top of the list of things to do when a person or a company becomes very rich is to own their own politicians. #it'saninfluencegame. | Dec 24 02:33 | |
| cubezzz3 | so three double-converting ones would be expensive :) | Dec 24 02:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | switch, router, dsl modem, monitor, workstation, and laptop plugged into UPS's power strip | Dec 24 02:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | lamp, other lamp, printer, phone charger, and uh hrm, other shit plugged into UPSless. | Dec 24 02:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | hrm, if I only have that plugged into other one, why the fuck is it full >_> | Dec 24 02:34 |
| cubezzz3 | yeah I have the router and hub on a UPS too | Dec 24 02:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | i have shit plugged into the UPS because _fucking bricks- | Dec 24 02:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | switch, router, and modem ALL HAVE BRICKS | Dec 24 02:35 |
| cubezzz3 | wall warts you mean? | Dec 24 02:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | yes, bricks. | Dec 24 02:35 |
| cubezzz3 | yup, the brick goes, the dsl modem no work :) | Dec 24 02:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | I can replace the modem | Dec 24 02:36 |
| scientes | know what you mean | Dec 24 02:36 |
| scientes | those old modems are crappy and need constant resparting | Dec 24 02:37 |
| cubezzz3 | I have two actually | Dec 24 02:37 |
| scientes | i ref to the quest actiontec ones | Dec 24 02:37 |
| cubezzz3 | both ovislink ones | Dec 24 02:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | Im considering getting netgear dgnd3700 | Dec 24 02:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | gigabit, two wifi radios, 3x3 mimo, and an asdl2+ modem | Dec 24 02:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | what I have sitting on my desk: a gigabit switch, a 2.4ghz only wrt54g, and an adsl2+ modem. | Dec 24 02:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | it would cut down on the fucking shit plugged in | Dec 24 02:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | scientes: but see | Dec 24 02:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | the thing is, I _am_ poor | Dec 24 02:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | I cant afford to replace shit if something fries | Dec 24 02:39 |
| cubezzz3 | 99% of your money must go to computer stuff :) | Dec 24 02:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | micro surges do exist and wear hardware down | Dec 24 02:39 |
| scientes | I am poor | Dec 24 02:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] This is a little weird. Wonder what's happening. | Dec 24 02:39 | |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz3: see, thats the thing | Dec 24 02:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | the surge protector and UPS are just an insurance policy | Dec 24 02:40 |
| scientes | depends where you are as well I would think | Dec 24 02:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | just in case something does happen, it stops it | Dec 24 02:40 |
| cubezzz3 | well if I got a major electrical storm I might just unplug everything | Dec 24 02:40 |
| scientes | NW USA has some of the cheapest power in the world, (wholesale wise) and perhaps better quality???? | Dec 24 02:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz3: yeah, but what if the electrical company fucks up and fries shit | Dec 24 02:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | it happens every now and then | Dec 24 02:41 |
| cubezzz3 | yes, trees can mess up the wires | Dec 24 02:41 |
| scientes | cubezzz, no shit | Dec 24 02:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | but its the micrsurges thats the problem | Dec 24 02:42 |
| scientes | where I grew up day long power outages about every other year | Dec 24 02:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | like, every time you see your lights dim for half a second? it just ate a few months out of your gear. | Dec 24 02:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | notice my shit never crashes and never dies? | Dec 24 02:42 |
| scientes | meh, more like 3 hours---now maybe 30 minutes seems better | Dec 24 02:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | I have rigs running 6-7 years. | Dec 24 02:42 |
| cubezzz3 | uh, this box is 1998 era | Dec 24 02:42 |
| scientes | But not those rolling blackouts that Cali had, I remember being in cali during that time, was horrible | Dec 24 02:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz3: jesus just retire it already. | Dec 24 02:43 |
| scientes | fffff, waste of electricity | Dec 24 02:43 |
| scientes | use the brick for that | Dec 24 02:43 |
| scientes | cut whatever, perhaps 100 W down to 5 | Dec 24 02:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | yeah, this is why I hate P4 boxes | Dec 24 02:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | habitually high power usage even when at idle | Dec 24 02:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | just swap it out with an AMD Fusion board | Dec 24 02:45 |
| scientes | or win98, which doesn't issue the wait() command | Dec 24 02:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | just as much power, idles at like negative watts. | Dec 24 02:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | scientes: fuck that, linux4ever | Dec 24 02:45 |
| scientes | I just remembering WAY back when I used that shit | Dec 24 02:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Listening to Karen Carpenter, delicious in small doses. | Dec 24 02:46 | |
| cubezzz3 | thing is it's the chess server, if I put a faster box together it will be too hard to beat | Dec 24 02:48 |
| cubezzz3 | people would lose every game and that's not fun | Dec 24 02:49 |
| cubezzz3 | I suppose I could limit it in some way though | Dec 24 02:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | er, dude | Dec 24 02:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | it still takes my box hours to make a move | Dec 24 02:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | I still beat it now and then | Dec 24 02:50 |
| cubezzz3 | Diablo-D3, no, this is blitz | Dec 24 02:50 |
| cubezzz3 | like 5 min chess | Dec 24 02:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | fuck that | Dec 24 02:50 |
| cubezzz3 | or 2 12 | Dec 24 02:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | I wanna give the computer a change | Dec 24 02:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | er, chance | Dec 24 02:50 |
| cubezzz3 | ok, play cubebox on fics then :) | Dec 24 02:50 |
| cubezzz3 | you think blitz is an advantage for the human player? | Dec 24 02:51 |
| cubezzz3 | quite the opposite | Dec 24 02:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | I used to be a very fast player anyhow. | Dec 24 02:52 |
| cubezzz3 | ok, give it a go, it's not invincible | Dec 24 02:52 |
| cubezzz3 | it's not easy to beat though | Dec 24 02:52 |
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| scientes | lol, how many people play on it? | Dec 24 02:53 |
| cubezzz3 | it's played over 100,000 games | Dec 24 02:54 |
| scientes | currently.... | Dec 24 02:54 |
| cubezzz3 | it's one of the more popular computers on fics | Dec 24 02:54 |
| cubezzz3 | well it plays one person at a time :) | Dec 24 02:54 |
| scientes | that reminds me, where is that star wars over telnet server? | Dec 24 02:54 |
| *cubezzz3 is now known as cubefc1 | Dec 24 02:55 | |
| cubefc1 | there's cubebox, parrot, both around 2150 rating | Dec 24 02:55 |
| cubefc1 | some computers are as low as 1500, good for a warmup | Dec 24 02:56 |
| cubefc1 | you can log on as guest, and it's free :) | Dec 24 02:56 |
| cubefc1 | maybe oh, 100-150 games per day | Dec 24 02:57 |
| brendyn | computers do better at blitz than long games | Dec 24 02:58 |
| cubefc1 | I like blitz, more exciting | Dec 24 02:59 |
| brendyn | because (skilled) humans can spend time developing a position plan, and its the only wat we can win against them | Dec 24 02:59 |
| brendyn | blitz is bad practice, it gets you into habbits of not caring to calculate | Dec 24 02:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Religion no matter how strictly enforced has never been able to change humans into a species that mates for life. | Dec 24 03:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] any news on !kde sc 4.7 or 4.8 in !debian / !aptosid? :) | Dec 24 03:00 | |
| cubefc1 | well there's separate ratings for blitz and standard | Dec 24 03:00 |
| brendyn | yeah.. | Dec 24 03:00 |
| cubefc1 | some guys play 1 0 :) | Dec 24 03:00 |
| brendyn | do you play much? | Dec 24 03:01 |
| cubefc1 | yeah sometimes | Dec 24 03:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Weird that stuff from several hours ago is coming in over pusher. Not sure it's backlogged in our queue server or on pusher's side. | Dec 24 03:01 | |
| brendyn | I'm pretty crap but my friends into it so he got me interested so I've learnt a little bit. | Dec 24 03:02 |
| cubefc1 | you play on fics at ll brendyn? | Dec 24 03:02 |
| brendyn | at 11? | Dec 24 03:02 |
| cubefc1 | at all, sorry | Dec 24 03:02 |
| brendyn | oturns out it was 'l' anyway | Dec 24 03:02 |
| brendyn | so much for this font 'designed for programmers' | Dec 24 03:03 |
| brendyn | to distinguish those characters well | Dec 24 03:03 |
| brendyn | i have been on i | Dec 24 03:03 |
| brendyn | t | Dec 24 03:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | wwhat font | Dec 24 03:03 |
| brendyn | Anonymous Pro | Dec 24 03:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | fuck that | Dec 24 03:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | if its not a bitmap, it sucks. | Dec 24 03:03 |
| brendyn | you know it? | Dec 24 03:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | I tried like 50 programmer fonts | Dec 24 03:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | all fail | Dec 24 03:04 |
| cubefc1 | standard symbols L, 14 | Dec 24 03:04 |
| brendyn | regardless, I didnt pick up on the different shape | Dec 24 03:04 |
| brendyn | what font do you use? | Dec 24 03:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] ...a maple tree? Or a keg? | Dec 24 03:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] It wont stay this way for ever. I hope to get some volunteers managing the servers soon. | Dec 24 03:05 | |
| Diablo-D3 | I use "Fixed Semo-Condensed 11" | Dec 24 03:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | and I turned bitmap fonts on in debian | Dec 24 03:05 |
| brendyn | mines size 8 | Dec 24 03:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | I'd have to look up in the table to see what the specific font is | Dec 24 03:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | brendyn: it comes in different sizes | Dec 24 03:05 |
| cubefc1 | you can type "who C" to check out which computers are available | Dec 24 03:06 |
| brendyn | l/1 seem pretty similar with it. probably just my fault | Dec 24 03:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | brendyn: seems to be 6x12.pcf | Dec 24 03:08 |
| brendyn | anonymous pro has bitmaps for 11,12, 13 | Dec 24 03:10 |
| brendyn | Diablo-D3: http://tiddles.me/anon-pro.png | Dec 24 03:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Dec 24 03:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | yeah but its ugly | Dec 24 03:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | and too small | Dec 24 03:16 |
| brendyn | I can read it just fine | Dec 24 03:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] There were problems with database replication this morning. This evening, big posting flood. Not sure why it's gotta be this way. | Dec 24 03:16 | |
| brendyn | where is a sample of your font? | Dec 24 03:17 |
| DaemonFC | GoDaddy backed off their support of SOPA | Dec 24 03:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | there isnt one | Dec 24 03:18 |
| brendyn | pussies | Dec 24 03:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | its like a brazillion years old | Dec 24 03:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | and it comes with X | Dec 24 03:18 |
| DaemonFC | and deleted all their corporate blog posts where they said what they liked about it | Dec 24 03:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | its _that_ fixed. | Dec 24 03:18 |
| brendyn | so not this? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/55/Fixed_sample.png | Dec 24 03:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Dec 24 03:19 |
| brendyn | what are they playing at" Daemon | Dec 24 03:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | brendyn: huh | Dec 24 03:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | I dunno | Dec 24 03:20 |
| DaemonFC | "Of course, Reagan was a religious bigot, so he probably was one of the ones that was hoping that it would be a way for his god to pick off all the minorities that he didn't like. HIV only started getting attention once it became obvious that it was a problem of straight white affluent people in the United States as well. " | Dec 24 03:20 |
| DaemonFC | ""God" (genetics) punished Reagan by making him spend his last years shitting himself and not knowing what planet he was on." | Dec 24 03:20 |
| DaemonFC | -me :P | Dec 24 03:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fixed_%28typeface%29 | Dec 24 03:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Fixed (typeface) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 27.04 KB | Dec 24 03:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | apparently it is | Dec 24 03:21 |
| DaemonFC | God rewards his followers | Dec 24 03:21 |
| DaemonFC | with incontinence | Dec 24 03:21 |
| DaemonFC | and brain diseases | Dec 24 03:21 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Dec 24 03:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | but I think it might be 6x13 not 6x12 | Dec 24 03:21 |
| brendyn | it says under the image | Dec 24 03:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | no I meant what Im using | Dec 24 03:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Don't buy what? What do you think, I'm lying to you? What would be the point of that? | Dec 24 03:26 | |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, GIMP changed their license to GPLv3 or later | Dec 24 03:27 |
| DaemonFC | in the 2.7 development branch | Dec 24 03:27 |
| DaemonFC | wonder what took so long | Dec 24 03:27 |
| brendyn | what was it before? | Dec 24 03:27 |
| DaemonFC | GPLv2 or later | Dec 24 03:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Yeah, I don't understand it. It was unique key errors in just two tables (nonce and magicsig). No idea why stuff would get inserted twice. | Dec 24 03:28 | |
| DaemonFC | GIMP is widely used because there's nothing else that can do that much stuff without costing hundreds of dollars per copy | Dec 24 03:29 |
| DaemonFC | so it would be hard for anyone to drop it citing the usual GPL 3 FUD without getting some complaints from their users | Dec 24 03:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I told the slave server to continue operating with that particular error, and it seems happier now. | Dec 24 03:30 | |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft has been getting around the GPL 3's irrevocable patent license terms in their contributions to SAMBA | Dec 24 03:30 |
| DaemonFC | by licensing their patches under the MIT X11 license | Dec 24 03:30 |
| DaemonFC | and letting SAMBA relicense it themselves for includion | Dec 24 03:30 |
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| DaemonFC | *inclusion | Dec 24 03:30 |
| DaemonFC | that way Microosft still has the rights to sue SAMBA users while contributing patches to it themselves | Dec 24 03:31 |
| DaemonFC | even though it's under the GPL 3 | Dec 24 03:31 |
| Ziomatrix | SOPA has been squashed to be voted on by January, you think it will pass with flying colours? | Dec 24 03:31 |
| DaemonFC | it could | Dec 24 03:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Somebody went to a huge amount of trouble to set up thousands of accounts. And there's no URLs or spam or whatever. So strange. | Dec 24 03:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] It's hard to do, really. You have to solve a captcha and confirm an email address. It's a lot of work for not a lot of gain. | Dec 24 03:31 | |
| DaemonFC | they got lucky this month | Dec 24 03:31 |
| DaemonFC | there was more urgent stuff to consider and Congress will recess itself for the holidays | Dec 24 03:32 |
| DaemonFC | so it wan't defeated, just pushed back several weeks | Dec 24 03:32 |
| Ziomatrix | DaemonFC: all these companies use intellectual property to either create a monopoly or gain money through monetary compensation from competition. | Dec 24 03:32 |
| DaemonFC | They're creating a legal framework that has never existed before | Dec 24 03:32 |
| DaemonFC | until SOPA passes, most copyright violation cases are a civil law matter | Dec 24 03:33 |
| Ziomatrix | DaemonFC: I can't believe people actually want to pass this, does anyone in Congress have any idea that web services make up a huge chunk of the American economy? | Dec 24 03:33 |
| DaemonFC | unless you profited from it | Dec 24 03:33 |
| DaemonFC | they're tired of trying to sue individuals | Dec 24 03:33 |
| DaemonFC | they get these million dollar settlements from working class people | Dec 24 03:33 |
| DaemonFC | who immediately file bankruptcy | Dec 24 03:33 |
| DaemonFC | and let the MAFIAA eat the court costs and everything | Dec 24 03:34 |
| DaemonFC | so the MAFIAA wants to make copyright infringement a criminal matter | Dec 24 03:34 |
| Ziomatrix | DaemonFC: first companies are ruled to have equal rights to people when it comes to defending themselves, then they have full rights according to suing individuals, now they'll be even more equal then the common person. | Dec 24 03:34 |
| DaemonFC | so that the taxes that people like you and I pay will go to incarcerate people for copying a few MP3s or something | Dec 24 03:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] You're kinda talking crazy talk. | Dec 24 03:35 | |
| Ziomatrix | DaemonFC: I think the SOPA framework has a 1-5 year prison sentence for a copyright violation | Dec 24 03:35 |
| Ziomatrix | DaemonFC: I wonder how this will apply to minors? | Dec 24 03:35 |
| DaemonFC | rehabilitation | Dec 24 03:35 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Dec 24 03:35 |
| Ziomatrix | DaemonFC: they're going to have video renting and album buying camps. | Dec 24 03:36 |
| Ziomatrix | DaemonFC: get those darn kids off of iTunes and back into Tower Records :P | Dec 24 03:36 |
| DaemonFC | I used to think copying 1s and 0s was a victimless crime, but now thanks to being raped by Bubba in jail for it, I have reassessed my opinion | Dec 24 03:36 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Dec 24 03:36 |
| DaemonFC | DRM'd formats have never caught on | Dec 24 03:37 |
| DaemonFC | look at DVD Audio | Dec 24 03:37 |
| DaemonFC | and Super Audio CD | Dec 24 03:37 |
| DaemonFC | both are much better than CDDA, but never replaced it | Dec 24 03:37 |
| Ziomatrix | DaemonFC: so the new model of doing business is, if you fail at it, try you darnest to change the legal framework around you to succeed. | Dec 24 03:37 |
| DaemonFC | because there's no way to rip from them reliably | Dec 24 03:37 |
| DaemonFC | well, I have an idea that even if they stop "piracy", their sales won't go up accordingly | Dec 24 03:38 |
| DaemonFC | most people who take a copy for free would never have bought one at full retail price | Dec 24 03:38 |
| DaemonFC | most people don't have that kind of "disposable income" even if they wanted to buy the things they'd take for free | Dec 24 03:39 |
| DaemonFC | note that I hate that "disposable income" idea | Dec 24 03:39 |
| Ziomatrix | DaemonFC: and $ony did a great job making ATRAC fail hard with the inability to do data transfers with music on their latest MD players and rootkit ridden music transfer software. They acquired the perfectly good Sonic Sound Forge software to do it too. | Dec 24 03:39 |
| DaemonFC | it's designed to make you think the entire point of earning money through hard work is so you should turn around and waste it on overpriced things you don't need | Dec 24 03:39 |
| DaemonFC | ATRAC failed because MP3 was a relatively open format back in the 90s | Dec 24 03:40 |
| DaemonFC | MP3 has never been "open" by the standards we have now | Dec 24 03:40 |
| DaemonFC | but in the 90s, it was the closest thing to open that there was | Dec 24 03:40 |
| DaemonFC | underground "pirate" groups just yanked the ISO demo code and compiled it | Dec 24 03:41 |
| DaemonFC | they don't tend to care about licensing | Dec 24 03:41 |
| DaemonFC | ;) | Dec 24 03:41 |
| DaemonFC | which is the same reason you still encounter RAR files | Dec 24 03:41 |
| DaemonFC | the early MP3 encoders that tended to circulate were horrible | Dec 24 03:42 |
| DaemonFC | unless you managed to pirate yourself a copy of FhG's proprietary encoder too | Dec 24 03:42 |
| DaemonFC | which they licensed at about $1,500 per copy | Dec 24 03:42 |
| DaemonFC | ISO demo code tends to be deliberately pumped full of bugs | Dec 24 03:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I have 70K new notices since 2011-12-23 00:00:00 UTC. Not sure what the point is, though. | Dec 24 03:43 | |
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| DaemonFC | it makes the quality of the output terrible while at the same time fulfilling the requirement of demonstrating how a valid bitstream could be produced | Dec 24 03:43 |
| DaemonFC | FhG has never used the ISO psycho-acoustic model in any of their official encoders | Dec 24 03:44 |
| Ziomatrix | DaemonFC: funny, so you're saying music should be freely distributed at 32mbps MP3s? | Dec 24 03:44 |
| DaemonFC | the ISO version of psy.c is so bad that LAME wrote their own from scratch | Dec 24 03:44 |
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| Ziomatrix | DaemonFC: now most studios try to sue you on the simplest riff. | Dec 24 03:45 |
| DaemonFC | I'm saying if there was nothing more open and widely supported than MP3, I could stomach MP3 | Dec 24 03:45 |
| DaemonFC | as long as I could use free and open source software on both ends | Dec 24 03:45 |
| DaemonFC | which you can, but they violate US patent laws | Dec 24 03:45 |
| Ziomatrix | DaemonFC: what audio codec would you rather see catch on? OGG? | Dec 24 03:45 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, Vorbis and FLAC | Dec 24 03:45 |
| DaemonFC | actually, WAVPACK is slightly better than FLAC | Dec 24 03:46 |
| Ziomatrix | DaemonFC: having a rectangular device can violate patent law. | Dec 24 03:46 |
| DaemonFC | but not a huge amount better | Dec 24 03:46 |
| DaemonFC | and FLAC is more widely supported | Dec 24 03:46 |
| DaemonFC | so I'll throw my recommendation to FLAC just because you can buy hardware and use it without modifying the firmware or something | Dec 24 03:46 |
| DaemonFC | WAVPACK produces files faster and with slightly better compression ratio | Dec 24 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | but you're hard pressed to find consumer level hardware that it just works with | Dec 24 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | you can go to Walmart, and buy a Sandisk Sansa and play Vorbis and FLAC without modifying the firmware | Dec 24 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | both WAVPACK and FLAC are licensed under a BSD-style license | Dec 24 03:48 |
| DaemonFC | so neither has a more preferable license than the other | Dec 24 03:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Wait, is this all some OMWF thing? | Dec 24 03:48 | |
| DaemonFC | I'd like to see Xiph.org relicense Vorbis and FLAG and the Ogg container under the terms of Apache 2.0 | Dec 24 03:49 |
| DaemonFC | which would force anyone using them to license to any recipient an irrevocable license on their patents | Dec 24 03:49 |
| DaemonFC | *FLAC | Dec 24 03:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Totally confused as to why the public timeline is so packed with hours-old junk. It seems to be only coming through over pusher. | Dec 24 03:50 | |
| DaemonFC | it wasn't common when Xiph did their original licensing to see companies suing competing products over vague patents | Dec 24 03:50 |
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| DaemonFC | that's more of a threat now and I'd like to see the licensing catch up to represent that threat while leaving it otherwise as free to redistribute as possible | Dec 24 03:50 |
| DaemonFC | You know that a lot of companies that now have support for free media codecs in their players also have patents in the MPEG pool | Dec 24 03:51 |
| DaemonFC | so they hand out the codecs with no patent license attached | Dec 24 03:51 |
| DaemonFC | they're unlikely to sue their own users | Dec 24 03:51 |
| DaemonFC | but they sue smaller competitors all the time | Dec 24 03:52 |
| DaemonFC | and each other | Dec 24 03:52 |
| DaemonFC | what Apache 2.0 would do is, if their competitor bought a cheap little portable audio player from the company that wants to sue them, the lawsuit disappears | Dec 24 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | because that $40 portable player came with an irrevocable patent license to the free media codecs it supports | Dec 24 03:53 |
| Ziomatrix | brb sorry | Dec 24 03:55 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME 3 is such a disaster | Dec 24 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | between their two shells (main and fallback), the extensions that distributions have to write to make it work well, and Ubuntu replacing it entirely... | Dec 24 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | you never get anything close to the same user experience twice | Dec 24 03:58 |
| DaemonFC | and certainly nothing close to what upstream intended | Dec 24 03:58 |
| brendyn | how did it turn out so bad with every screaming at them to turn back? | Dec 24 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | well, a lot of open source projects just stick their fingers in their ears and say "You'll love it, just shut up and go away!" | Dec 24 04:02 |
| DaemonFC | then when they release a trainwreck, they stick their fingers in their ears and say "You complain, but we know you love it, just shut up and go away!" | Dec 24 04:03 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 24 04:03 |
| DaemonFC | for a while GNOME was debating on whether or not to continue allowing shell extensions | Dec 24 04:03 |
| DaemonFC | because they don't want it to be extensible | Dec 24 04:03 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME has the same mentality as my landlord | Dec 24 04:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Ah, good point. | Dec 24 04:10 | |
| DaemonFC | "Oh, you want me to fix the roof?" | Dec 24 04:10 |
| DaemonFC | "Just wait a year until the rain has rotted through it and what was a small problem has done $1,000 more in damage" | Dec 24 04:10 |
| DaemonFC | "I'll fix it then and then try to say your rent has to go up because the place is eating me alive" | Dec 24 04:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @speeddefrost: Oh my god. People actually LIKE me? Hell just froze over. | Dec 24 04:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] !identica could mods and modhelpers silence a few of the posters on the public timeline? It's bedtime; need to read to the kids. | Dec 24 04:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] They're pissed off I missed dinner. | Dec 24 04:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] 40 well-known tech cos stand against #SOPA, but APPL, MSFT and other big names missing. http://is.gd/DElgiq | Dec 24 04:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: RT “@mathewi: boycotts are sometimes effective, it seems: Go Daddy has pulled its support for SOPA: http://t.co/iVZ8LCYb | Dec 24 04:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 24 04:18 |
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| DaemonFC | I'm trying to separate my AT&T and DirecTV bills | Dec 24 04:20 |
| DaemonFC | as it is, if I go later to try and get rid of DirecTV, which I plan to do, I have to deal with AT&T and risk getting my internet service shut off over the DirecTV portion | Dec 24 04:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Well, I've silenced about 5000 already, and there are probably a few more to come. Hope we can handle them by hand. | Dec 24 04:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] @evan I wasn't counting how many, but I've been silencing them for a few hours now. | Dec 24 04:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Yeah, I guess our queue servers fell behind. No idea why. But they're catching up now. | Dec 24 04:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @wikileaks2 Why the Domain Name System (DNS) is a political, intellectual abomination [see 'dreams for the future'] http://t.co/gTzsFHWl | Dec 24 05:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Thanks a ton. It seems like we're down to just a few. | Dec 24 05:08 | |
| DaemonFC | "The bug fix that’s been removed from 9.0.1 was causing problems when certain toolbars were installed" | Dec 24 05:15 |
| DaemonFC | Aren't those what Windows users get another one of every time they install unrelated software? | Dec 24 05:15 |
| *DaemonFC throws browser toolbars at MinceR_ | Dec 24 05:15 | |
| DaemonFC | My impersonation of a typical Windows user: "How the hell did that get there!?" "Die evil spywarebar DIE DIE DIE!!!!!" | Dec 24 05:16 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Dec 24 05:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Really!? That's bizarre. Same kind of junk posts? | Dec 24 05:16 | |
| DaemonFC | I wonder if Jabber.org still disconnects Kopete ever 20 seconds | Dec 24 05:17 |
| *DaemonFC decides to check since he's bored | Dec 24 05:17 | |
| DaemonFC | I'm only using Google for XMPP because I have yet to find a more reliable XMPP server | Dec 24 05:18 |
| DaemonFC | if this issue with Kopete goes away, I'll head back to Jabber as my primary | Dec 24 05:18 |
| DaemonFC | so far, so good :) | Dec 24 05:19 |
| DaemonFC | worth mentioning is that Firefox took away my preferred theme with their stupid update rollercoaster | Dec 24 05:20 |
| DaemonFC | Simple Green and Simply Blue no longer work, at all | Dec 24 05:20 |
| DaemonFC | Netscape's AOL division licensed Simple Green to one person who is allowed to update it | Dec 24 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | which is bullshit | Dec 24 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | they're never going to use it again | Dec 24 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | why not license it BSD or something? :( | Dec 24 05:22 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] One other thing worth noting is that when someone on identi.ca gets silenced, everyone who registered from the same IP also gets silenced. | Dec 24 05:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] ...so whoever did this needed tons of IPs to register from. | Dec 24 05:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] What about Diaspora? | Dec 24 05:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I should probably dig up the registration IPs. I wonder if they come from some particular country? | Dec 24 05:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] If it's spammers, might make sense. Diaspora doesn't have the same public interface we do. (Public timeline, tag pages, group pages.) | Dec 24 05:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] OK, you're a modhelper now, @jpopehasmoved. | Dec 24 05:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I think so. Not smashing so much as quieting. | Dec 24 05:43 | |
| DaemonFC | http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/12/24/008227/taliban-seizes-and-burns-pcs-cell-phones-to-stop-obscenity | Dec 24 05:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Taliban Seizes and Burns PCs, Cell Phones To Stop Obscenity - Slashdot .::. Size~: 165.17 KB | Dec 24 05:45 |
| DaemonFC | still worse than the US government I guess | Dec 24 05:45 |
| DaemonFC | http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/12/23/034249/eff-reverse-engineers-carrier-iq | Dec 24 05:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: EFF Reverse Engineers Carrier IQ - Slashdot .::. Size~: 189.52 KB | Dec 24 05:48 |
| *Diablo-D3 is now known as InternetStranger | Dec 24 05:56 | |
| *InternetStranger is now known as Diablo-D3 | Dec 24 05:56 | |
| scientes | XFaCE, "The UEFI Forum, of which Canonical is a member, is defining the next generation interface between your system’s firmware and any operating system that runs on it. The new specs will make Ubuntu systems boot quicker, have a better battery life and are easier to configure." http://blog.canonical.com/2011/10/28/white-paper-secure-boot-impact-on-linux/ Red Hat does not see uefi, in itsself as evil, (I think it is, when you can just go str | Dec 24 05:58 |
| scientes | aight to coreboot uefi=more problems) | Dec 24 05:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: White Paper: Secure Boot impact on Linux « Canonical Blog .::. Size~: 35.33 KB | Dec 24 05:58 |
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| scientes | i think you were to one bitching about how hard it was to install with uEFI "BIOS is evolving, and all thanks to the UEFI Specifications."---yuck evolve to not existing kthxbye | Dec 24 05:59 |
| *Diablo-D3 is now known as INTERNET-SUPERCE | Dec 24 06:00 | |
| *INTERNET-SUPERCE is now known as Diablo-D3 | Dec 24 06:00 | |
| DaemonFC | there's no real need for uefi | Dec 24 06:01 |
| DaemonFC | other than the board makers and a couple of large software companies wanting more power over the user | Dec 24 06:01 |
| scientes | uefi is crap, agreed 100%, you basically summed it up | Dec 24 06:02 |
| scientes | coreboot is the shit | Dec 24 06:02 |
| scientes | DaemonFC, you are right, uefi might be used to segment the market with anti-features and selective updates | Dec 24 06:02 |
| scientes | much more prone to that direction than BIOSes--both are non-free software | Dec 24 06:02 |
| scientes | I can't believe red hat put their name on that | Dec 24 06:03 |
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| scientes | Canonical, fits them however........ | Dec 24 06:03 |
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| DaemonFC | uefi has a few benefits for the user | Dec 24 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | and even more drawbacks | Dec 24 06:07 |
| DaemonFC | Coreboot is a worthy BIOS replacement that removes a lot of the functional problems of BIOS | Dec 24 06:07 |
| DaemonFC | without imposing additional user restrictions | Dec 24 06:07 |
| DaemonFC | but their project is small | Dec 24 06:07 |
| DaemonFC | and it only works on a very few motherboards | Dec 24 06:08 |
| DaemonFC | considering that there are literally thousands of different motherboards and Coreboot only works on just over a hundred | Dec 24 06:08 |
| DaemonFC | and the ones it works with might not support every feature of that board | Dec 24 06:08 |
| DaemonFC | and you risk turning a working PC into a brick | Dec 24 06:08 |
| DaemonFC | and the boards it supports tend to be ones that are a few years old at best | Dec 24 06:09 |
| DaemonFC | it's not just a drop in replacement for any board you're likely to buy today | Dec 24 06:09 |
| DaemonFC | and that's really the only downside to it | Dec 24 06:09 |
| scientes | DaemonFC, AMD is fully behind coreboot, it is Intel that is purposefully stalling it | Dec 24 06:10 |
| DaemonFC | if you want a free firmware, your options of motherboard is severely limited | Dec 24 06:10 |
| DaemonFC | Intel has no official support for it | Dec 24 06:10 |
| DaemonFC | AMD is only half-committed to it | Dec 24 06:10 |
| scientes | they actively try to detract from it | Dec 24 06:11 |
| DaemonFC | and motherboard companies get the final say in what the user ends up with | Dec 24 06:11 |
| scientes | I could see coreboot catching on, until then, I am staying as far away from uefi as I can----it was such a pain getting stuck in boot mode on a mac with an ubuntu cd | Dec 24 06:11 |
| DaemonFC | the BIOS problem from the user's point of view, is when the BIOS has bugs that cause hardware malfunctions | Dec 24 06:12 |
| DaemonFC | the user can't fix them | Dec 24 06:12 |
| DaemonFC | and the manufacturer says "we only support Windows" | Dec 24 06:12 |
| DaemonFC | and even that has problems sometimes | Dec 24 06:12 |
| DaemonFC | they only really test to make sure Windows boots and basically works | Dec 24 06:12 |
| DaemonFC | there's no guarantee that it won't give you problems with Windows | Dec 24 06:12 |
| DaemonFC | and there's no guarantee that the board vendor will be interested in fixing them there | Dec 24 06:13 |
| DaemonFC | because you're already stuck with it | Dec 24 06:13 |
| DaemonFC | it costs them money to fix their bugs | Dec 24 06:13 |
| DaemonFC | and gains them nothing since you already paid them | Dec 24 06:13 |
| DaemonFC | customer goodwill is a thing of the past | Dec 24 06:14 |
| DaemonFC | the hardware companies have banded together to have similar policies on bugs and how not to support users that come across them | Dec 24 06:14 |
| DaemonFC | so often the only solution to buggy hardware is to buy competing hardware with different bugs | Dec 24 06:14 |
| scientes | COREBOOT COREBOOT COREBOOT COREBOOT | Dec 24 06:15 |
| scientes | the solution | Dec 24 06:15 |
| DaemonFC | Coreboot is only a solution where it works | Dec 24 06:15 |
| scientes | they then dont have to deal with development any more | Dec 24 06:15 |
| DaemonFC | obviously the big hardware companies don't want it to | Dec 24 06:15 |
| scientes | less expense and the community fixes their bugs | Dec 24 06:15 |
| DaemonFC | or they would throw some money at it | Dec 24 06:15 |
| DaemonFC | and it would work | Dec 24 06:16 |
| scientes | or just release their docs, which intel wont do | Dec 24 06:16 |
| DaemonFC | just getting Intel to release their firmware under proprietary but redistributable licensing is an uphill battle | Dec 24 06:16 |
| DaemonFC | which only works some of the time' | Dec 24 06:16 |
| DaemonFC | often the firmware that comes with Linux isn't even redistributable for all | Dec 24 06:17 |
| DaemonFC | only Linux | Dec 24 06:17 |
| DaemonFC | which I think is a bad compromise but Linux developers get their shit working and then don't care what the other free OS kernels have to do | Dec 24 06:17 |
| DaemonFC | it's extremely unfortunate | Dec 24 06:18 |
| scientes | the "only Linux" is where I would cross the line | Dec 24 06:18 |
| DaemonFC | you should read OpenBSD's problems sometime | Dec 24 06:18 |
| scientes | thats like a girl saying "Just for you" | Dec 24 06:18 |
| DaemonFC | sometimes reverse engineering means they had to deobfuscate a Linux driver | Dec 24 06:18 |
| DaemonFC | that was written under NDA | Dec 24 06:18 |
| scientes | that shit should be purged and the distros should refuse to package it | Dec 24 06:19 |
| DaemonFC | or come up with their own firmware because Intel or someone won't let them use the same nonfree firmware that comes with Linux | Dec 24 06:19 |
| DaemonFC | so Linux driver code, not even counting the firmware, isn't always that open | Dec 24 06:20 |
| scientes | on the other hand, I browsed debian's non-free repo, and most the stuff in there is pretty sensible | Dec 24 06:20 |
| DaemonFC | sometimes there's obfucation involved | Dec 24 06:20 |
| scientes | like worldwind, or non-free tide data from backwards countries like the UK | Dec 24 06:20 |
| DaemonFC | or it does something that only the Linux developer knows why because he has documentation that nobody else can read | Dec 24 06:20 |
| DaemonFC | or there's a string of magic numbers that nobody knows what they do | Dec 24 06:20 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 24 06:20 |
| scientes | I was thinking there should be a wikipedia article on "progressive policies of USA"----no copyright for fed government for example | Dec 24 06:21 |
| DaemonFC | the GPL isn't a huge obstacle by itself to a driver being made available in a BSD kernel | Dec 24 06:21 |
| scientes | DMCA safeharbor | Dec 24 06:21 |
| DaemonFC | but when they can't get documentation | Dec 24 06:21 |
| DaemonFC | or the GPL'd code is obfuscated | Dec 24 06:21 |
| DaemonFC | that's when it becomes a challenge | Dec 24 06:21 |
| DaemonFC | firmware is another problem entirely | Dec 24 06:22 |
| scientes | we could brainstorm half a dozen more----all the nader stuff--Clean Water act, clean air act, osha,---also earlier stuff like FDA, inititive processes | Dec 24 06:22 |
| DaemonFC | because having a functional driver and no firmware to initialize the device with doesn't help you either | Dec 24 06:22 |
| scientes | its hard to cover culture in a wiki, or any form of journalism, but i think this would be a good article | Dec 24 06:22 |
| scientes | and then do it for other countries | Dec 24 06:23 |
| DaemonFC | AMD made their Radeon firmware distributable by all | Dec 24 06:23 |
| DaemonFC | and their CPU firmware too | Dec 24 06:23 |
| DaemonFC | it's proprietary but anyone can include and use it to bring up AMD's hardware | Dec 24 06:23 |
| DaemonFC | that alone is better than what you come across with many companies | Dec 24 06:23 |
| scientes | India's alternative process patents (e.g. chemical manufacturing) rather than substance-based (not anymore) | Dec 24 06:23 |
| scientes | it could get countreversial---i.e. china 1 child; but would be great way to kind of focus on the positive, and also value things that are truely good about ones government/culture, but to which we might not notice (because they don't suck) | Dec 24 06:25 |
| DaemonFC | the only AMD K10 boards that Coreboot can bring up are AMD reference boards that nobody can buy | Dec 24 06:25 |
| scientes | DaemonFC, not true | Dec 24 06:26 |
| DaemonFC | the only boards that are retail that it can bring up only support K8 processors | Dec 24 06:26 |
| scientes | http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_AM3Plus/M5A88V_EVO/ | Dec 24 06:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. - Motherboards- ASUS M5A88-V EVO .::. Size~: 99.33 KB | Dec 24 06:26 |
| DaemonFC | which is stuff older than the original Phenom | Dec 24 06:26 |
| scientes | http://www.coreboot.org/Supported_Motherboards#Desktops_.2F_Workstations | Dec 24 06:26 |
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| scientes | expensive, but AM3+ (Phenom II -native-) | Dec 24 06:27 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.coreboot.org/Supported_Motherboards | Dec 24 06:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Supported Motherboards - coreboot .::. Size~: 145.19 KB | Dec 24 06:27 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Dec 24 06:27 |
| DaemonFC | where's the K10 ones that are retail units? | Dec 24 06:27 |
| scientes | (as AM3 board-Phenom I-can support Phenom II in a slightly reduced form) | Dec 24 06:27 |
| DaemonFC | oh, they added a couple I didn't see | Dec 24 06:27 |
| DaemonFC | Gigabyte ones | Dec 24 06:27 |
| scientes | that one is retail--you can get it on newegg, but it is expensive | Dec 24 06:28 |
| scientes | (of course I am a cheapo that always ending up buying ECS motherboards) | Dec 24 06:28 |
| scientes | I've had 3 ECS in a row, and they have been incredibly stable, never crash--the only crashes I have had was cheap ram requiring higher voltage, and nvidia binary driver crashing X11--also cheap SATA disk that didn't support suspend (reset), but did support hot plug | Dec 24 06:29 |
| scientes | people say they are cheap, but i've had no problems | Dec 24 06:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] #Linux #kernel 3.2-rc7 http://bit.ly/u8HwDx "[…] likely the last -rc in before final 3.2, so please do check it out […]" | Dec 24 06:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if corps now deny supporting #SOPA, & others who did withdraw support due to backlashes; who exactly DOES support #SOPA? #MPAA #RIAA | Dec 24 06:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] should corps get any credit for backing down in the face of a backlash if they were gonna sell people out? #GoDaddy #SOPA | Dec 24 06:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Law Firms Removing Their Name From #SOPA Supporters' List; SOPA 'Support' Crumbling http://goo.gl/wauxR | Dec 24 06:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I wonder how many listed #SOPA supporters are unrelated organisations the supporters signed up on their behalf, or empty front corps | Dec 24 06:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Law Firms Removing Their Name From SOPA Supporters' List; SOPA 'Support' Crumbling | Techdirt .::. Size~: 120.78 KB | Dec 24 06:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I also wonder how much that list differs from the usual #MPAA #RIAA "support" list when they descend to get laws passed | Dec 24 06:58 | |
| DaemonFC | law firms just want more laws, period | Dec 24 07:00 |
| DaemonFC | more people that need their services | Dec 24 07:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I wonder how many corps who have been scrambling to be removed from #SOPA to save the PR backlash, will happily deal with the #MPAA / #RIAA | Dec 24 07:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if a partner of mine threw me into the firing line without my consent, I wouldn't be too keen to continue the partnership after that #SOPA | Dec 24 07:00 | |
| *DaemonFC is listening to No Excuses by Alice In Chains on MTV Unplgged [Amarok] | Dec 24 07:13 | |
| scientes | the basic set of laws need to be readable in a day | Dec 24 07:28 |
| scientes | I have read my small towns code, and it use to be like that | Dec 24 07:28 |
| DaemonFC | meh | Dec 24 07:29 |
| DaemonFC | as long as nobody knows what the law is, the government can make things up as they go | Dec 24 07:29 |
| DaemonFC | they like it | Dec 24 07:29 |
| DaemonFC | lawyers like it | Dec 24 07:29 |
| DaemonFC | it fucks you over | Dec 24 07:29 |
| DaemonFC | oh well | Dec 24 07:29 |
| scientes | and so much illegal stuff that is totally flaunted | Dec 24 07:30 |
| scientes | and laws that are SUPER vague | Dec 24 07:30 |
| scientes | basically everything is illegal | Dec 24 07:30 |
| DaemonFC | if you have more than 7 days worth of food in the house, the DOJ says you're a terrorist suspect | Dec 24 07:30 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 24 07:30 |
| scientes | and shit like mandatory minimums | Dec 24 07:31 |
| DaemonFC | You're buying a lot of coffee there, comrade | Dec 24 07:31 |
| scientes | and laws that override writ of habeus corpus | Dec 24 07:31 |
| DaemonFC | you should really get the smaller can | Dec 24 07:31 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 24 07:31 |
| scientes | hmmm? | Dec 24 07:31 |
| scientes | i type fast | Dec 24 07:31 |
| DaemonFC | the government says it's suspicious for someone to have more than a week's worth of food in their house | Dec 24 07:32 |
| scientes | lol | Dec 24 07:32 |
| DaemonFC | I guess that makes everyone over 65 who gets Social Security once a month a terrorist suspect | Dec 24 07:32 |
| DaemonFC | there's no point in going to the grocery store every few days | Dec 24 07:32 |
| DaemonFC | just buy as much as makes sense while you're there | Dec 24 07:33 |
| DaemonFC | but that makes you a terrorist now | Dec 24 07:33 |
| scientes | no reason in keeping more than a weeks of food supply at the grocery store | Dec 24 07:33 |
| DaemonFC | you shouldn't get a dozen eggs | Dec 24 07:33 |
| DaemonFC | or a big can of coffee | Dec 24 07:33 |
| DaemonFC | you might be getting ready to blow up a federal building | Dec 24 07:33 |
| DaemonFC | the dozen eggs gave you away | Dec 24 07:33 |
| scientes | no point in having a system of grain elevators to protect against shortfalls | Dec 24 07:33 |
| scientes | no point in eating local | Dec 24 07:33 |
| DaemonFC | well, what I want to know is why having more than a week's worth of food makes you a suspect | Dec 24 07:34 |
| scientes | no point in knowing how to grow potatoes, and tasty peas (yum) | Dec 24 07:34 |
| DaemonFC | I could understand if they were suspicious of people who stocked up on 3 years worth of MREs or something | Dec 24 07:34 |
| scientes | no point in knowing how to store food properly, no point in knowing how to think critically | Dec 24 07:34 |
| DaemonFC | most food that you refrigerate or keep canned stays good for months or years | Dec 24 07:35 |
| DaemonFC | maybe they figure anyone who plans that far ahead is an enemy of the state | Dec 24 07:35 |
| scientes | relevent: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/04/boston-college-prompt-commands-are-suspicious | Dec 24 07:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Boston College Campus Police: "Using Prompt Commands" May Be a Sign of Criminal Activity [updated below] | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 32.39 KB | Dec 24 07:36 |
| DaemonFC | using DOS makes you a terrorist? | Dec 24 07:37 |
| DaemonFC | I thought it just meant you were never going to get laid | Dec 24 07:37 |
| DaemonFC | sheesh | Dec 24 07:37 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 24 07:37 |
| scientes | DaemonFC, its Linux you troll | Dec 24 07:37 |
| DaemonFC | it could be DOS | Dec 24 07:37 |
| DaemonFC | a black screen with white fonts | Dec 24 07:37 |
| DaemonFC | could be CPM | Dec 24 07:37 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 24 07:37 |
| DaemonFC | those damned CPM-using terrorists | Dec 24 07:38 |
| scientes | highly efficient terrorists | Dec 24 07:38 |
| DaemonFC | and their anti-American Soviet-cloned 8-bit CPUs | Dec 24 07:38 |
| DaemonFC | Using two operating systems makes you a terror suspect | Dec 24 07:39 |
| DaemonFC | or maybe a Mac user with boot camp | Dec 24 07:39 |
| DaemonFC | just as bad | Dec 24 07:39 |
| *DaemonFC is listening to Got Me Wrong by Alice In Chains on MTV Unplgged [Amarok] | Dec 24 07:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] trmanco: @cyberflier Thanks man! I wasn't expecting anything from anybody on Twitter! | Dec 24 07:45 | |
| *DaemonFC is listening to Heaven Beside You by Alice In Chains on MTV Unplgged [Amarok] | Dec 24 07:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] trmanco: I added Photos to my topics on @klout http://t.co/gdyPZxJE | Dec 24 07:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] trmanco: I received +K in photography from @cyberflier, thanks! http://t.co/5ET1dmqM | Dec 24 07:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] trmanco: Hey guys, my new website is up: http://ur1.ca/6xj9x. Built with the awesomeness of @500px. Go ahead and check http://ur1.ca/6xj9z | Dec 24 07:46 | |
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| DaemonFC | lights flickering | Dec 24 07:47 |
| DaemonFC | might be Christmas in Iraq if Duke Energy decides to black us out | Dec 24 07:47 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 24 07:47 |
| scientes | except you arn't in Iraq | Dec 24 07:49 |
| DaemonFC | tell that to Duke | Dec 24 07:49 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Dec 24 07:49 |
| DaemonFC | I was screwing around a couple days ago and remembered to update Rockbox on my pmp | Dec 24 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | I let that one go too long | Dec 24 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | last firmware I pulled had some annoying bugs | Dec 24 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | it's working perfectly now | Dec 24 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | this is bizarre | Dec 24 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | they license Clementine GPLv3 | Dec 24 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | then throw in a nonfree plugin for Spotify | Dec 24 07:59 |
| DaemonFC | thus contaminating the entire package | Dec 24 07:59 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not sure that's even legal | Dec 24 07:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Why isn't Bradley Manning on the Amnesty International prisoner of conscience list? | Dec 24 08:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzag Identizens. | Dec 24 08:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #2012 is going to be a !Qt year! | Dec 24 08:25 | |
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| gnufreex | Hi | Dec 24 08:26 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Grooveshark is brill, listening to practically everyone who ever made a version of 'Aint Misbehavin' in a nice easy playlist. | Dec 24 08:35 | |
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| schestowitz | gnufreex: hi | Dec 24 08:43 |
| DaemonFC | kmix keeps freezing up | Dec 24 08:43 |
| DaemonFC | and messing up my entire panel | Dec 24 08:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Even Stephane Grappelli. | Dec 24 08:45 | |
| DaemonFC | there it goes again | Dec 24 08:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @Evan would there be an easy way to not include URL's and @names in the 140? | Dec 24 08:46 | |
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| DaemonFC | GNOME 3.2 is still "oh hell to the no" | Dec 24 08:51 |
| DaemonFC | LXDE is crap | Dec 24 08:51 |
| DaemonFC | KDE is nice when it wants to work | Dec 24 08:51 |
| DaemonFC | why does every bug have to be a tear out all your hair one | Dec 24 08:54 |
| DaemonFC | couldn't they ever make a bug that you're like "Oh, that's cute" | Dec 24 08:54 |
| *DaemonFC is frustrated | Dec 24 08:54 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I noticed that by the time I customized GNOME 3 to where I could tolerate it, it was just in time to have the shell crash and give me a frowny face | Dec 24 08:56 |
| DaemonFC | and tell me one of my extensions was preventing it from starting | Dec 24 08:57 |
| DaemonFC | I wish people would quit being nice to GNOME out of political correctness | Dec 24 08:57 |
| DaemonFC | and just ask them what they should have in the first place | Dec 24 08:57 |
| DaemonFC | what the FUCKING FUCK is this!? :) | Dec 24 08:58 |
| DaemonFC | every time things settle down | Dec 24 08:58 |
| DaemonFC | every time things start working just a little too well | Dec 24 08:59 |
| DaemonFC | every time things are too reliable, they trash it all and start over | Dec 24 08:59 |
| DaemonFC | and apparently if you use KDE on RHEL 6, it was still trusting Diginotar until RHEL 6.2 was released | Dec 24 09:01 |
| DaemonFC | http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/6.2_Technical_Notes/kdelibs.html | Dec 24 09:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 4.108. kdelibs .::. Size~: 6.9 KB | Dec 24 09:01 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 24 09:02 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/87491816 | Dec 24 09:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Saturday, 24-Dec-11 06:07:06 UTC - Identi.ca: @Schestowitz This stinks, it was #Microsoft that anticompetitively prevented #WordPerfect from prospering on PCs http://ur1.ca/6xhlx | Dec 24 09:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 24 09:04 |
| DaemonFC | I'd argue WordPerfect did a great job of destroying itself | Dec 24 09:04 |
| DaemonFC | with or without help | Dec 24 09:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Count Basie with Joe Williams singing 'Aint Misbehavin' That is as cool as it gets. | Dec 24 09:05 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2397814,00.asp | Dec 24 09:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft, Novell 'WordPerfect' Antitrust Suit Ends With Hung Jury | News & Opinion | PCMag.com .::. Size~: 112.67 KB | Dec 24 09:05 |
| DaemonFC | what a great jury | Dec 24 09:06 |
| DaemonFC | you have a minimum wage security guard listening to a trial about software | Dec 24 09:06 |
| DaemonFC | Corel Wordperfect is the lowest it has ever been | Dec 24 09:07 |
| DaemonFC | it installs a system service into Windows to enforce their DRM | Dec 24 09:07 |
| DaemonFC | and that completely stops it from running in Wine | Dec 24 09:08 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/cobusburgers/statuses/150413999060692992 | Dec 24 09:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @cobusburgers: Patent law deserves to be ridiculed - http://t.co/v1USmMGv | Dec 24 09:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 24 09:08 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: na, wp as ok | Dec 24 09:08 |
| schestowitz | and read what ms did | Dec 24 09:08 |
| DaemonFC | you mean before Corel got ahold of it, it was less horrible | Dec 24 09:08 |
| DaemonFC | I agree with that much | Dec 24 09:08 |
| DaemonFC | I started using Star Office before OOo was even available | Dec 24 09:09 |
| DaemonFC | I noticed a copy of it at Staples with no price on it | Dec 24 09:09 |
| DaemonFC | so I had them price check it and the system said it was $0.01 | Dec 24 09:09 |
| DaemonFC | so I got it for a penny | Dec 24 09:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @diablod3 Redditors will donate thousands to Wikipedia if they drop GoDaddy http://ur1.ca/6xkr8 !eff | Dec 24 09:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: veritasen comments on Wikipedia.org is with GoDaddy - Jimmy if you're listening please transfer wikimedia domains away from GoDaddy to show you're serious about opposing SOPA .::. Size~: 512.37 KB | Dec 24 09:10 |
| DaemonFC | I still haven't tried XFCE on Fedora 16 | Dec 24 09:12 |
| DaemonFC | I may install it as a desktop for when KDE is a pain in my ass | Dec 24 09:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @diablod3 Anonymous threatens net blackout if SOPA passes http://ur1.ca/6xkt8 !eff | Dec 24 09:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Your Anon News • Anonymous Update and Message on #OpBlackOut .::. Size~: 83.63 KB | Dec 24 09:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] \o/ always wanted to round the keeper & walk the ball into the net in #PES finally managed it :D it IS possible | Dec 24 09:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] every time I tried it, something always thwarted me, like the game was pre-programmed to prevent a goal scored like that | Dec 24 09:16 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: any ideas on how to change my default window manager to kwin_gles instead of kwin? | Dec 24 09:19 |
| DaemonFC | I switched over just now with --replace | Dec 24 09:19 |
| DaemonFC | but it's not listed as an option in the default applications | Dec 24 09:19 |
| DaemonFC | # if the KDEWM environment variable has been set, then it will be used as KDE's | Dec 24 09:28 |
| DaemonFC | # window manager instead of kwin. | Dec 24 09:28 |
| DaemonFC | # if KDEWM is not set, ksmserver will ensure kwin is started. | Dec 24 09:28 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm | Dec 24 09:28 |
| DaemonFC | export KDEWM=/usr/bin/kwin_gles maybe? | Dec 24 09:28 |
| DaemonFC | well, let's see if that works | Dec 24 09:29 |
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| DaemonFC | it did :) | Dec 24 09:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] http://ur1.ca/6xl63 disagree w/ OP, but good comments #sopa | Dec 24 09:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jason Roberts - Google+ - So, you want to stop SOPA, huh? Well, what you're doing… .::. Size~: 117.27 KB | Dec 24 09:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] @wildcard especially comment by Ben Koshy. Stop consuming "entertainment" for a month #sopa | Dec 24 09:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @diablod3 First hand report of GoDaddy begging customers to stay http://ur1.ca/6xl95 !eff | Dec 24 09:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Techrights IRC Moderation http://ur1.ca/6xlad had to do some | Dec 24 09:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Chris Heald - Google+ - I just got a call from #GoDaddy. The rep said he noticed… .::. Size~: 258.22 KB | Dec 24 09:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Techrights IRC Moderation | Techrights .::. Size~: 83.13 KB | Dec 24 09:36 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm | Dec 24 09:43 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: kwin has put on some weight | Dec 24 09:43 |
| DaemonFC | I find it consistently using about 50-60 MB of RAM | Dec 24 09:43 |
| schestowitz | So have YOU :-) | Dec 24 09:43 |
| DaemonFC | xfwm4 only uses like 10-15 | Dec 24 09:43 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Dec 24 09:43 |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IoyAP8LcqA | Dec 24 09:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Brian loves chocolate.mp4 - YouTube .::. Size~: 82.15 KB | Dec 24 09:44 |
| schestowitz | mine uses about 50mb in swap | Dec 24 09:44 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 24 09:44 |
| schestowitz | over 100mb if things get bad | Dec 24 09:44 |
| schestowitz | i have some scripts to help me keep programs out of swap | Dec 24 09:44 |
| schestowitz | esp. KDE ones | Dec 24 09:45 |
| schestowitz | Cause I'm low on RAM sometimes | Dec 24 09:45 |
| schestowitz | I keep it around 50% free ideally | Dec 24 09:45 |
| schestowitz | roy@roy:~$ uptime | Dec 24 09:45 |
| schestowitz | 09:45:19 up 72 days, 9:41, 1 user, load average: 2.21, 2.16, 2.06 | Dec 24 09:45 |
| schestowitz | It's actually better than that | Dec 24 09:45 |
| schestowitz | I caused an outage in Oct. | Dec 24 09:45 |
| oiaohm | Really I have to upgrade this machine this year. | Dec 24 09:45 |
| oiaohm | Running on 2G of ram is getting annoying. | Dec 24 09:46 |
| schestowitz | roy@roy:~$ ./getswap-sorted.sh | Dec 24 09:46 |
| DaemonFC | kmix is going weird on me | Dec 24 09:46 |
| DaemonFC | I need to figure that out | Dec 24 09:46 |
| schestowitz | [...] | Dec 24 09:46 |
| schestowitz | PID=21359 - Swap used: 10972 - (python ) | Dec 24 09:46 |
| schestowitz | PID=21158 - Swap used: 18496 - (kdeinit4 ) | Dec 24 09:46 |
| schestowitz | PID=22147 - Swap used: 18632 - (kio_http_cache_ ) | Dec 24 09:46 |
| schestowitz | PID=21201 - Swap used: 18876 - (ksmserver ) | Dec 24 09:46 |
| schestowitz | PID=21197 - Swap used: 19676 - (kglobalaccel ) | Dec 24 09:46 |
| schestowitz | PID=21347 - Swap used: 21096 - (kwalletd ) | Dec 24 09:46 |
| schestowitz | PID=21161 - Swap used: 21784 - (kded4 ) | Dec 24 09:46 |
| schestowitz | PID=21207 - Swap used: 22408 - (knotify4 ) | Dec 24 09:46 |
| brendyn | mines using 640KiB | Dec 24 09:46 |
| schestowitz | PID=21238 - Swap used: 30456 - (konsole ) | Dec 24 09:46 |
| schestowitz | PID=25386 - Swap used: 33736 - (kate ) | Dec 24 09:46 |
| schestowitz | PID=21203 - Swap used: 62500 - (kwin ) | Dec 24 09:46 |
| schestowitz | no point upgrading RAM on this machine now, it's 3.5 years old. Might get more on my next box | Dec 24 09:47 |
| schestowitz | roy@roy:~$ cat ./getswap-sorted.sh | Dec 24 09:47 |
| schestowitz | ./getswap.sh | sort -n -k 5 | Dec 24 09:47 |
| DaemonFC | RAM is fairly cheap | Dec 24 09:47 |
| schestowitz | roy@roy:~$ cat ./getswap.sh | Dec 24 09:48 |
| schestowitz | #!/bin/bash | Dec 24 09:48 |
| schestowitz | # Get current swap usage for all running processes | Dec 24 09:48 |
| DaemonFC | it's the sheer size of the code base of kwin that could produce something that size that alarms me | Dec 24 09:48 |
| schestowitz | # Erik Ljungstrom 27/05/2011 | Dec 24 09:48 |
| schestowitz | SUM=0 | Dec 24 09:48 |
| schestowitz | OVERALL=0 | Dec 24 09:48 |
| schestowitz | for DIR in `find /proc/ -maxdepth 1 -type d | egrep "^/proc/[0-9]"` ; do | Dec 24 09:48 |
| schestowitz | PID=`echo $DIR | cut -d / -f 3` | Dec 24 09:48 |
| schestowitz | PROGNAME=`ps -p $PID -o comm --no-headers` | Dec 24 09:48 |
| schestowitz | for SWAP in `grep Swap $DIR/smaps 2>/dev/null| awk '{ print $2 }'` | Dec 24 09:48 |
| schestowitz | do | Dec 24 09:48 |
| schestowitz | let SUM=$SUM+$SWAP | Dec 24 09:48 |
| schestowitz | done | Dec 24 09:48 |
| schestowitz | echo "PID=$PID - Swap used: $SUM - ($PROGNAME )" | Dec 24 09:48 |
| schestowitz | let OVERALL=$OVERALL+$SUM | Dec 24 09:48 |
| schestowitz | SUM=0 | Dec 24 09:48 |
| schestowitz | done | Dec 24 09:48 |
| schestowitz | echo "Overall swap used: $OVERALL" | Dec 24 09:48 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: and viata7? | Dec 24 09:49 |
| schestowitz | much better in vista 7? | Dec 24 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | meh | Dec 24 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | they manage to shove everything together | Dec 24 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | so it's impossible to figure out where the resources are going | Dec 24 09:50 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FFII/statuses/149843467034562561 | Dec 24 09:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FFII: @sfermigier No need to curse. Open Standards bridgeheads get massive fire. | Dec 24 09:51 |
| brendyn | what changed from vista to 7? | Dec 24 09:51 |
| schestowitz | the name.. | Dec 24 09:51 |
| schestowitz | and... | Dec 24 09:51 |
| schestowitz | wallpaper | Dec 24 09:51 |
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| schestowitz | the sales pitch | Dec 24 09:51 |
| schestowitz | and people have got newer hardware, so they are less likely to feel the porkiness of Vista | Dec 24 09:51 |
| brendyn | they lowered system requirements i think, since they pushed it a bit hard to get people buying new pooters | Dec 24 09:52 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: my machine started life for 4 g of ram. | Dec 24 09:52 |
| schestowitz | vista 7 is more like XP actually | Dec 24 09:52 |
| schestowitz | they got UAC mostly axed for some things | Dec 24 09:52 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: I have lost 2 with age. | Dec 24 09:52 |
| schestowitz | i.e. the stuff that they had added got removed | Dec 24 09:52 |
| schestowitz | wow. innovation. progress.. | Dec 24 09:52 |
| oiaohm | Really Linux world is slowly getting house for desktop and tablets in order. | Dec 24 09:53 |
| oiaohm | I do think its intersting that 3.3 Linux kernel is aiming to be able to run on android devices stock. | Dec 24 09:53 |
| schestowitz | why not? Great stuff | Dec 24 09:53 |
| schestowitz | imagine the ecosystem around android backporting to Linux | Dec 24 09:54 |
| schestowitz | Acer, ASUS, amazon, b&n, samsung, htc.. | Dec 24 09:54 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: will not run android | Dec 24 09:54 |
| oiaohm | yes strange. | Dec 24 09:54 |
| schestowitz | android is not just the GUI thing | Dec 24 09:54 |
| oiaohm | 3.3 able to run on andrid device as a ubuntu or something else wrong. | Dec 24 09:54 |
| schestowitz | keyboards and peripherals of other type | Dec 24 09:55 |
| schestowitz | maybe they can have them supported by linux, such that we can use the same ones on gnu/linux desktops, who knows... | Dec 24 09:55 |
| schestowitz | Android will be increasingly used for printing services too, bar CUPS | Dec 24 09:55 |
| oiaohm | Of course by the end if next year the kernel under android might be stock. | Dec 24 09:55 |
| oiaohm | If that is the case then things get really interesting. | Dec 24 09:56 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FFII/statuses/149844161816829953 | Dec 24 09:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FFII: @sfermigier That is simply because these policies are not robust enough and pro-market access lobbying is too weak. | Dec 24 09:56 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: have you gotten your cisco cert yet? | Dec 24 09:56 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FFII/statuses/149931689383178240 | Dec 24 09:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FFII: @sfermigier Where is the European Software Strategy (ESS) gone? | Dec 24 09:57 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: nop. Ended up getting my cert to place data cabling. | Dec 24 09:57 |
| DaemonFC | kmix freezes when I use Amarok | Dec 24 09:57 |
| DaemonFC | and it outright crashes when I use VLC | Dec 24 09:57 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: and insanely look like I am going to end up doing a electronic apprentship while being a IT | Dec 24 09:58 |
| oiaohm | So I can basically send anywhere to deploy network. | Dec 24 09:58 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: running beta with pulseaudio? | Dec 24 09:59 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/sfermigier/status/149889496912105473 | Dec 24 09:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @sfermigier: @ffii Any comment on "Strategy for internal use of OSS at the EC" ? http://t.co/SexRUgeI | Dec 24 09:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 24 09:59 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Dec 24 09:59 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: How did I guess. | Dec 24 09:59 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: vlc has one thing that I like | Dec 24 09:59 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: the lead developer of kmix does not use pulseaudio | Dec 24 09:59 |
| schestowitz | it can rescale and speed up music without changing pitch | Dec 24 09:59 |
| schestowitz | I used that have a plugin for it in xmms like 8 years ago | Dec 24 10:00 |
| schestowitz | it could independently control pitch and speed | Dec 24 10:00 |
| oiaohm | http://www.cellular-news.com/story/52320.php This is a good laugh | Dec 24 10:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Taliban Burn Cell Phones, Computers for Alleged Obscenity .::. Size~: 23.18 KB | Dec 24 10:00 |
| oiaohm | The forbid music of course they will forbid cell phones and computers. | Dec 24 10:00 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I found a great icon theme for kde | Dec 24 10:01 |
| schestowitz | better than the default one, it's the one mint 10 uses, I think | Dec 24 10:01 |
| schestowitz | http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.8-rc1.php | Dec 24 10:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: KDE - KDE Makes First 4.8 Release Candidate Available, Adds Secret Service .::. Size~: 19.43 KB | Dec 24 10:03 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: they are used for tracking | Dec 24 10:03 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: so can a cb radio. | Dec 24 10:04 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1087743 | Dec 24 10:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 24 10:04 |
| DaemonFC | I deleted kmix's rc files | Dec 24 10:05 |
| DaemonFC | and started it back up | Dec 24 10:05 |
| DaemonFC | apparently that worked for someone on OpenSuse | Dec 24 10:05 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/benhuh/status/149965881479397376 | Dec 24 10:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @benhuh: We will move our 1,000 domains off @godaddy unless you drop support of SOPA. We love you guys, but #SOPA-is-cancer to the Free Web. | Dec 24 10:06 |
| DaemonFC | hmm | Dec 24 10:06 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR_: http://twitter.com/FFII/statuses/150214027765760001 | Dec 24 10:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FFII: #EU Commission on #Hungary http://t.co/iT9EKCQp | Dec 24 10:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 24 10:09 |
| schestowitz | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/ISO-updates-C-standard-1400814.html | Dec 24 10:10 |
| schestowitz | ISO-LOL | Dec 24 10:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ISO updates C standard - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 39.08 KB | Dec 24 10:10 |
| oiaohm | Yes C is not dead | Dec 24 10:12 |
| oiaohm | It still evolving. | Dec 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | dead? | Dec 24 10:12 |
| schestowitz | AFAIK, it's the most widely used if you include legacy programs | Dec 24 10:13 |
| schestowitz | more so than VB or LISP | Dec 24 10:13 |
| schestowitz | Maybe C++ and Java caught up, but I very much doubt it | Dec 24 10:13 |
| schestowitz | Let's say I need a simple program to just compute something efficiently and the implementation is simple but too complex for bash scripting. You'd not tart making a class design, you're just throw in all the calls in a single c file, compile, then invoke the binary. C is the de facto choice for that, so how is it "dead"? | Dec 24 10:15 |
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| DaemonFC | when in doubt, kill every settings folder that says kde | Dec 24 10:16 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FFII/statuses/150289114959314945 http://twitter.com/FFII/statuses/150290118714990592 http://twitter.com/FFII/statuses/150288689963073536 | Dec 24 10:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FFII: @gibus @VisaePatentes And it is "impossible" for a BGH judge to define what the term "software patent" means, so we are entirely wrong. | Dec 24 10:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FFII: @gibus @VisaePatentes Wouldn't is be unfair to exclude rhetoric devices from patentability? | Dec 24 10:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FFII: @gibus @VisaePatentes According to predominant teachings its "impossible" to exclude software from patentability. | Dec 24 10:16 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: who will you and jabba celebrate xmas with? Gonad? | Dec 24 10:16 |
| DaemonFC | no, but I'll celebrate over his stinking rotting corpse | Dec 24 10:17 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: kde is awesome, why delete settinhs folders, it's under ~/.kde/share/apps usually (IIRC) | Dec 24 10:17 |
| DaemonFC | if that happens on Christmas, I guess your answer would be yes | Dec 24 10:17 |
| schestowitz | he cursed you | Dec 24 10:17 |
| schestowitz | called you a "Faggot", didn't he? | Dec 24 10:17 |
| schestowitz | Maybe he will vote for Rick Perry | Dec 24 10:17 |
| oiaohm | Really I think we should run a competition just for the fun of it what is mono biggest flaws. | Dec 24 10:18 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FFII/statuses/150291857388224513 | Dec 24 10:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FFII: Super! GoDaddy withdraws its support of #SOPA. | Dec 24 10:18 |
| DaemonFC | he's probably the only one in his family that can vote | Dec 24 10:18 |
| DaemonFC | with all the felonies and such | Dec 24 10:18 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 24 10:18 |
| schestowitz | example of company putting policies in line with business interest, due to backlash | Dec 24 10:19 |
| schestowitz | felons can't vote? | Dec 24 10:19 |
| DaemonFC | up to the state | Dec 24 10:19 |
| DaemonFC | no state allows it though | Dec 24 10:19 |
| schestowitz | how about Indiana? | Dec 24 10:19 |
| schestowitz | Ah, you beat me to it | Dec 24 10:19 |
| DaemonFC | In Indiana, nobody with a felony conviction can vote | Dec 24 10:19 |
| DaemonFC | the exception is if the governor pardons them | Dec 24 10:19 |
| schestowitz | What is the governor had a conviction for felony? | Dec 24 10:20 |
| schestowitz | Can he run? | Dec 24 10:20 |
| schestowitz | or she | Dec 24 10:20 |
| DaemonFC | he can also commute it | Dec 24 10:20 |
| DaemonFC | so that you can vote but the felony stays on your record | Dec 24 10:20 |
| DaemonFC | it happens from time to time | Dec 24 10:20 |
| schestowitz | Do you still have that downstairs neighbour with a sex crime? | Dec 24 10:20 |
| DaemonFC | no, he's in prison | Dec 24 10:20 |
| DaemonFC | in Michigan | Dec 24 10:21 |
| schestowitz | already? | Dec 24 10:21 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Dec 24 10:21 |
| schestowitz | what did he do this time? | Dec 24 10:21 |
| DaemonFC | people like him don't stay out too long | Dec 24 10:21 |
| DaemonFC | fuck if I care | Dec 24 10:21 |
| DaemonFC | he's gone | Dec 24 10:21 |
| schestowitz | shawty got in jail again | Dec 24 10:21 |
| oiaohm | Really cound not be that reformed. | Dec 24 10:21 |
| schestowitz | wow | Dec 24 10:21 |
| DaemonFC | there's some people who will always be a criminal | Dec 24 10:21 |
| DaemonFC | no matter what is done with them | Dec 24 10:21 |
| schestowitz | the jail is cushy | Dec 24 10:21 |
| schestowitz | so why not? | Dec 24 10:22 |
| schestowitz | It's like welfare | Dec 24 10:22 |
| schestowitz | people won't get off it while it's too good | Dec 24 10:22 |
| schestowitz | in the UK some cells get TV | Dec 24 10:22 |
| schestowitz | So | Dec 24 10:22 |
| schestowitz | you can come out, then work hard all day for pittance | Dec 24 10:22 |
| schestowitz | or chill out in a cell watching TV all day | Dec 24 10:22 |
| DaemonFC | or go to prison, get raped and beaten up daily | Dec 24 10:22 |
| DaemonFC | and work for 25 cents an hour | Dec 24 10:22 |
| DaemonFC | hmm | Dec 24 10:22 |
| DaemonFC | that sounds worse | Dec 24 10:22 |
| schestowitz | Same for some people in coucil housing here, if they can bear the same of living at the expense of working people | Dec 24 10:22 |
| schestowitz | depends on the prison | Dec 24 10:23 |
| schestowitz | Michigan cells must be Hellish | Dec 24 10:23 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/mgeist/statuses/150296525585653760 | Dec 24 10:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @mgeist: RT “@mathewi: boycotts are sometimes effective, it seems: Go Daddy has pulled its support for SOPA: http://t.co/iVZ8LCYb | Dec 24 10:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 24 10:23 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/agonarch/status/150306723331178496 | Dec 24 10:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @agonarch: @FFII @gibus @VisaePatentes It's possible to draw a line in the sand to keep sw dvlpment safe from legal externalities. | Dec 24 10:25 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/150318460029767681 | Dec 24 10:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @wikileaks: Why the Domain Name System (DNS) is a political, intellectual abomination [see 'dreams for the future'] http://t.co/gTzsFHWl | Dec 24 10:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 24 10:25 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FFII/status/150290118714990592 | Dec 24 10:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FFII: @gibus @VisaePatentes Wouldn't is be unfair to exclude rhetoric devices from patentability? | Dec 24 10:25 |
| schestowitz | DNS is mostly a censorship landing point now | Dec 24 10:26 |
| schestowitz | disgusting | Dec 24 10:26 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm | Dec 24 10:26 |
| DaemonFC | yakuake says my window manager doesn't support transparency | Dec 24 10:26 |
| DaemonFC | so I did kwin --replace | Dec 24 10:26 |
| DaemonFC | set transparency | Dec 24 10:26 |
| DaemonFC | closed yakuake | Dec 24 10:26 |
| DaemonFC | kwin_gles --replace | Dec 24 10:26 |
| DaemonFC | started yakuake | Dec 24 10:26 |
| DaemonFC | and the message went away and I get transparency | Dec 24 10:26 |
| DaemonFC | hooray :P | Dec 24 10:26 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: I guess reboot curse. | Dec 24 10:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu 11.10 'Oneiric Ocelot' Will Power New PC Line http://goo.gl/7IJnl #gnu #linux #ubuntu | Dec 24 10:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu 11.10 'Oneiric Ocelot' Will Power New PC Line | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 83.38 KB | Dec 24 10:31 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: ah | Dec 24 10:32 |
| schestowitz | composite? | Dec 24 10:32 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm: The solution to the kmix crap was to nuke the kde settings folder | Dec 24 10:32 |
| DaemonFC | it's quicker to recover from that than to try figuring out what got messed up | Dec 24 10:33 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: yeah | Dec 24 10:33 |
| DaemonFC | I guess it doesn't know what kwin_gles is | Dec 24 10:33 |
| DaemonFC | the gles version of kwin is cleaner and faster than the OpenGL version | Dec 24 10:33 |
| DaemonFC | according to the developer | Dec 24 10:34 |
| DaemonFC | seems to run a bit smoother for me | Dec 24 10:34 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm: the settings made by KDE 4.7 apparently cause some problems with KDE 4.8 | Dec 24 10:35 |
| schestowitz | Rainy all day today.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2643123 | Dec 24 10:35 |
| DaemonFC | I noticed I was also having some problems with kdepim until I did that | Dec 24 10:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BBC Weather : Manchester .::. Size~: 110.25 KB | Dec 24 10:35 |
| schestowitz | http://technorati.com/technology/article/paul-graham-bans-sopa-supporting-companies/ | Dec 24 10:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden | Dec 24 10:36 |
| DaemonFC | seems like OpenGL ES is going to be the focus of a lot of open source projects | Dec 24 10:37 |
| DaemonFC | WebGL maps to it | Dec 24 10:37 |
| oiaohm | No | Dec 24 10:37 |
| DaemonFC | OpenGL is bloated and overgrown, ES isn't | Dec 24 10:37 |
| DaemonFC | OpenGL has patent problems | Dec 24 10:37 |
| DaemonFC | ES doesn't | Dec 24 10:37 |
| oiaohm | No | Dec 24 10:37 |
| oiaohm | ES is the embeded version. | Dec 24 10:37 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Dec 24 10:37 |
| DaemonFC | so? | Dec 24 10:37 |
| DaemonFC | that's what it was intended for | Dec 24 10:38 |
| oiaohm | Yes there is a lot of hardware without full opengl drivers. | Dec 24 10:38 |
| oiaohm | Lots that are Opengl ES only. | Dec 24 10:38 |
| oiaohm | By function. | Dec 24 10:38 |
| DaemonFC | I think it will end up being the focus of a lot of software development | Dec 24 10:38 |
| DaemonFC | even on desktop systems | Dec 24 10:38 |
| oiaohm | Opengl ES did have some patent issues. | Dec 24 10:38 |
| oiaohm | They have mostly gone with HTC aquiring s3 | Dec 24 10:38 |
| DaemonFC | it doesn't include float textures | Dec 24 10:38 |
| DaemonFC | or s3tc | Dec 24 10:38 |
| oiaohm | Opengl ES can optionally support s3tc | Dec 24 10:39 |
| DaemonFC | nasty | Dec 24 10:39 |
| DaemonFC | they should have deprecated that when they had the chance | Dec 24 10:39 |
| oiaohm | Note the words optionally support | Dec 24 10:40 |
| DaemonFC | once you give them the option, a lot of those dickheads will end up using it | Dec 24 10:40 |
| oiaohm | This is different to opengl where is mandorary to support for particular levels. | Dec 24 10:41 |
| DaemonFC | and it effectively becomes mandatory | Dec 24 10:41 |
| oiaohm | Most opengl ES implementations don't support s3tc | Dec 24 10:41 |
| oiaohm | Due to the patent issue of course. | Dec 24 10:41 |
| oiaohm | But in future with the patent issue coming to a end. | Dec 24 10:41 |
| DaemonFC | good | Dec 24 10:41 |
| DaemonFC | maybe developers will be unable to use it | Dec 24 10:41 |
| DaemonFC | and jsut not even try | Dec 24 10:41 |
| DaemonFC | if you're going to start over, then why carry over the problems that plagued you the last time? | Dec 24 10:42 |
| oiaohm | Texture compression does have some major advantages. | Dec 24 10:43 |
| schestowitz | The trolls are still at it.. http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/47a8524bd001199a# | Dec 24 10:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: comp.os.linux.advocacy | Google Groups .::. Size~: 43.63 KB | Dec 24 10:43 |
| DaemonFC | there's other texture compression types | Dec 24 10:43 |
| DaemonFC | without patent trolls attached to them | Dec 24 10:43 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: correct and opengl ES support a few of those out box. | Dec 24 10:44 |
| oiaohm | Basically you have a patent troll you will be optional until the patent trolls patents are either given over or worthless | Dec 24 10:45 |
| oiaohm | And being optinal no application will normally use it. | Dec 24 10:45 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Gordon just doesn't get it | Dec 24 10:45 |
| DaemonFC | if he wants to complain Mesa doesn't come stock with s3tc support, maybe he should mention why that is | Dec 24 10:45 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure if he wants to pay S3 for a license for every Mesa user, something could be arranged | Dec 24 10:45 |
| DaemonFC | otherwise he needs to shut up | Dec 24 10:46 |
| DaemonFC | he's speaking as a game porter/developer whose life is made difficult because of that | Dec 24 10:46 |
| DaemonFC | he's complaining to the wrong people | Dec 24 10:47 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: basically s3tc is down to paper work now. | Dec 24 10:47 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: HTC basically legal department working out if the s3tc patent is valid | Dec 24 10:48 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: they have already promised to give it to OIN if it is valid. | Dec 24 10:48 |
| DaemonFC | why don't they just hand it over then? | Dec 24 10:48 |
| DaemonFC | and let OIN worry about if it's valid | Dec 24 10:48 |
| DaemonFC | once OIN has it, nobody is in danger from it either way | Dec 24 10:49 |
| oiaohm | Really HTC suspects fraud. | Dec 24 10:49 |
| DaemonFC | fraud? | Dec 24 10:49 |
| oiaohm | That the patent has never been valid | Dec 24 10:49 |
| oiaohm | That it was another companies work. | Dec 24 10:49 |
| DaemonFC | well, s3tc started out as a very DirectX-oriented thing | Dec 24 10:49 |
| DaemonFC | and then made its way over to infect OpenGL | Dec 24 10:49 |
| oiaohm | No before direct x | Dec 24 10:49 |
| oiaohm | I will leave it at that. | Dec 24 10:50 |
| oiaohm | Basically if it true o boy. | Dec 24 10:50 |
| oiaohm | MS and a stack of companies have been paying for a patent they should not have. | Dec 24 10:50 |
| oiaohm | Might be the very thing to bring down the patent system. | Dec 24 10:50 |
| DaemonFC | then what's the problem? | Dec 24 10:50 |
| DaemonFC | keep the money | Dec 24 10:50 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft paid you without doing their own research | Dec 24 10:51 |
| DaemonFC | fuck em | Dec 24 10:51 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 24 10:51 |
| oiaohm | Yep Patent system you are not required to give the money back. | Dec 24 10:51 |
| oiaohm | Ever | Dec 24 10:51 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: problem is OIN wants quality patents. HTC also wants to know what is a quality patent. | Dec 24 10:52 |
| oiaohm | Quality patents are what you can truly nail peoples ass to wall with. | Dec 24 10:52 |
| oiaohm | Like motoroal with 3g patents and apple. | Dec 24 10:53 |
| DaemonFC | that kmix thing is back | Dec 24 11:01 |
| DaemonFC | damn it | Dec 24 11:01 |
| *DaemonFC installs xfce | Dec 24 11:01 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: I told you don't go near development KDE it hurts. | Dec 24 11:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Privatising Margaret Thatcher's funeral would be a fitting tribute to her legacy http://gu.com/p/34ax2 | Dec 24 11:07 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Privatising Margaret Thatcher's funeral would be a fitting tribute to her legacy | Sunny Hundal | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 238.7 KB | Dec 24 11:07 |
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| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: re http://identi.ca/notice/87445797 | Dec 24 11:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Bernard Zijlstra (bolonium)'s status on Friday, 23-Dec-11 20:34:09 UTC - Identi.ca: RT @diablod3 !fsf isn't running a giant anti-SOPA campaign (although, to be fair, they should), so !eff gets my SOPA posts. | Dec 24 11:18 |
| schestowitz | SOPA is not so much about software | Dec 24 11:18 |
| schestowitz | EFF is about software, Internet rights is other groups | Dec 24 11:18 |
| schestowitz | oops | Dec 24 11:18 |
| schestowitz | I mean, FSF is about s/w | Dec 24 11:18 |
| schestowitz | you won't see FSF making statements on net neutrality for example | Dec 24 11:18 |
| oiaohm | FSF you might see a statement if the issue is bad enough. | Dec 24 11:19 |
| schestowitz | Groups need to limit their scope | Dec 24 11:19 |
| oiaohm | Basically EFF will be first. | Dec 24 11:19 |
| schestowitz | I don't write on this topics, either, I just link to them | Dec 24 11:19 |
| oiaohm | FSF if it really really going to be a problem. | Dec 24 11:19 |
| oiaohm | to techical operations. | Dec 24 11:19 |
| schestowitz | to software | Dec 24 11:19 |
| schestowitz | or to gnu | Dec 24 11:19 |
| schestowitz | or is SOPA required filtering using proprietary software only | Dec 24 11:20 |
| schestowitz | most like BIND | Dec 24 11:20 |
| schestowitz | likely | Dec 24 11:20 |
| oiaohm | Basically if SOPA require proprietary software FSF would be out in force. | Dec 24 11:20 |
| oiaohm | If SOPA could possible be used against GNU sites and FOSS sites with edvidene they also would be out in force | Dec 24 11:21 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/27-top-Linuxpowered-Christmas-gifts/?kc=rss | Dec 24 11:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 27 top Linux-powered Christmas gifts - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 68.34 KB | Dec 24 11:21 |
| oiaohm | EFF will take it up just because it wrong. | Dec 24 11:21 |
| oiaohm | Basically FSF giving a statement agains SOPA its time to be super scared how bad it is. | Dec 24 11:21 |
| schestowitz | SOPA targets copyright and counterfeit stuff | Dec 24 11:21 |
| schestowitz | don't think patents too | Dec 24 11:21 |
| oiaohm | Not yet but it scope does not block that. | Dec 24 11:22 |
| schestowitz | For the FSF to become an Internet advocacy group would dilute its effort | Dec 24 11:22 |
| schestowitz | but.. | Dec 24 11:22 |
| schestowitz | !google sourceforge pulled project patents | Dec 24 11:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Emergency Medical Dispatch - The Open ISES Project - SourceForge | http://openises.sourceforge.net/emd01a.html | Dec 24 11:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - ncompress: a public domain project - SourceForge | http://ncompress.sourceforge.net/ | Dec 24 11:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - History - JabRef reference manager | http://jabref.sourceforge.net/revisionhistory.php | Dec 24 11:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Packaging:SourceURL - FedoraProject - Fedora Project | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:SourceURL | Dec 24 11:23 |
| schestowitz | there was a case a while back | Dec 24 11:23 |
| schestowitz | but copyright is more common, like file-sharing FOSS | Dec 24 11:23 |
| schestowitz | I think DMCA got used | Dec 24 11:23 |
| oiaohm | DMCA works in combination with SOPA | Dec 24 11:24 |
| oiaohm | Now SOPA does not include raw IP blocking as well. | Dec 24 11:24 |
| oiaohm | So it possible to punch a hole straight out past SOPA using a dns from a different country. | Dec 24 11:24 |
| oiaohm | My worry is what will follow SOPA | Dec 24 11:25 |
| oiaohm | will it be proper written in a way that it can fully work. | Dec 24 11:25 |
| oiaohm | IP nuking and all. | Dec 24 11:25 |
| schestowitz | MS could take over openstack via citrix http://searchcloudcomputing.techtarget.com/feature/Cloudcom-gets-comfy-merges-with-OpenStack | Dec 24 11:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cloud.com gets comfy, merges with OpenStack .::. Size~: 52.51 KB | Dec 24 11:26 |
| schestowitz | and then put windows on it | Dec 24 11:26 |
| schestowitz | as it tried | Dec 24 11:26 |
| oiaohm | Not worried | Dec 24 11:27 |
| oiaohm | Redhat Microsoft deal stops that. | Dec 24 11:27 |
| oiaohm | Unless MS wants to go breach of contract with Redhat | Dec 24 11:28 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: really breach of contract with redhat is never recommended. | Dec 24 11:29 |
| schestowitz | the virt deal (2008ish)? | Dec 24 11:36 |
| schestowitz | 2009 maybe | Dec 24 11:36 |
| oiaohm | Yep that deal. | Dec 24 11:49 |
| oiaohm | Its a join cooperation deal covering items like openstack | Dec 24 11:49 |
| oiaohm | Really windows inside a openstack image would be funny. | Dec 24 11:50 |
| oiaohm | How would MS enforce license | Dec 24 11:50 |
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| amarsh04 | just upgraded: Linux version 3.2.0-rc7 (root@am64) (gcc version 4.7.0 20111217 (experimental) [trunk revision 182445] (Debian 4.7-20111217-2) ) | Dec 24 12:17 |
| oiaohm | Any evil yet amarsh04 | Dec 24 12:19 |
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| oiaohm | amarsh04: experimental compliers I use to run before I run into some very interesting bugs. | Dec 24 12:28 |
| MinceR | geekings | Dec 24 12:34 |
| MinceR | https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-WDE7a5pA5mc/TvUcLZ_D7pI/AAAAAAAAs_g/Eg8rOyCNkhw/w375-h500-k/11b8c1a3a37cbcf1166904926a2b75b5043ceb21.png | Dec 24 12:34 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] and a joyful #gravmass! ♻ @telecomix: Merry #lolmas, happy #caturday and #hack the new year, from Telecomix <3 | Dec 24 12:55 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: yep done that. | Dec 24 13:08 |
| schestowitz | hehe | Dec 24 13:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Video: Julian #Assange on The New York Times: Part 7 on Pentagon Papers & With Richard Falk Comment http://t.co/RxYHPOpS | Dec 24 13:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 24 13:11 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the fun of doing a tree assemble the wrong way. | Dec 24 13:12 |
| amarsh04 | not yet oiaohm | Dec 24 13:18 |
| amarsh04 | even using ld.gold | Dec 24 13:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] New spying claim against Julian Assange | Australian http://t.co/eUCDoXzs | Dec 24 13:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 24 13:21 |
| oiaohm | http://www.gizmag.com/kraft-vending-machine-blocks-children/20929/ Hmmm | Dec 24 13:27 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @kade_ellis: 'Screw the court case! Let's convict the sonofabitch in the press! That's how it's done!' Nixon direct quote, on D.Ellsberg | Dec 24 13:33 | |
| MinceR | schestowitz: business as usual, the EU does nothing | Dec 24 13:35 |
| oiaohm | Now how long before we have robot bar doors | Dec 24 13:39 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Manning prosecution lays basis for terror charge against Assange | WSWS https://t.co/WsZY2sDH | Dec 24 13:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Karp - czyli jak Żyd-komunista Hilary Minc stworzył Nową Świecką Tradycję ur1.ca/6xpxj | Dec 24 13:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @p4bl0 http://uzy.me/cd AI Challenge 2011 winner "There’s been a lot of talking about overall strategies. Unfortunately, i don’t real ... | Dec 24 14:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Reader’s Picks Cory Doctorow: My new Ubuntu-flavoured ThinkPad is computing heaven Building your own supercompute http://ur1.ca/6xq1c | Dec 24 14:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ Reader’s Picks Cory Doctorow: My new Ubuntu-flavoured ThinkPad is computing heaven Building your own supercompute http://ur1. ... | Dec 24 14:06 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=i2yZ0R3q-ts#! | Dec 24 14:07 |
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| DaemonFC | GoDaddy is 100% sleaze from beginning to end | Dec 24 14:07 |
| DaemonFC | the SOPA thing is just the latest, and it got them some notice | Dec 24 14:08 |
| iophk | The did the IIS boosting not that long ago, too. | Dec 24 14:08 |
| iophk | *they | Dec 24 14:08 |
| DaemonFC | a lot of those sites that distribute fake antivirus have their packages signed by GoDaddy | Dec 24 14:08 |
| DaemonFC | because they'll sign anything and not even care what it is | Dec 24 14:08 |
| DaemonFC | the entire system of "trust" for SSL is completely stupid | Dec 24 14:09 |
| DaemonFC | it lets companies who don't even say how they come to their conclusions about who can be trusted and who can't be into the default certificate list in every major web browser | Dec 24 14:10 |
| DaemonFC | then lock out CACert | Dec 24 14:10 |
| schestowitz | iophk: and more | Dec 24 14:10 |
| schestowitz | their manager also blogs some horrible right-wing crap | Dec 24 14:10 |
| schestowitz | they sell using sex | Dec 24 14:10 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I commented on that post of yours about GoDaddy | Dec 24 14:11 |
| DaemonFC | I've only used Yahoo to register a domain | Dec 24 14:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Comprehensive interview with former CIA analysist Ray McGovern on WikiLeaks http://t.co/dHw7mMVs | Dec 24 14:11 | |
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| DaemonFC | but it was well over 10 years ago | Dec 24 14:11 |
| DaemonFC | before they had anything to do with Microsoft | Dec 24 14:12 |
| DaemonFC | and Google wasn't really big at that time | Dec 24 14:12 |
| DaemonFC | I used to use Yahoo for everything | Dec 24 14:12 |
| DaemonFC | now I still have my account, and it says something like member since 1999 | Dec 24 14:12 |
| schestowitz | they have the mentality of casino | Dec 24 14:12 |
| DaemonFC | but I hardly use it | Dec 24 14:12 |
| schestowitz | same here | Dec 24 14:13 |
| schestowitz | email too | Dec 24 14:13 |
| DaemonFC | they used to have a Linux port of Yahoo Messenger | Dec 24 14:13 |
| DaemonFC | with GTK+ 1 and everything :P | Dec 24 14:14 |
| DaemonFC | the only official way to use their messenger network in Linux now is that web messenger thing they wrote in Flash | Dec 24 14:15 |
| DaemonFC | The all-new Yahoo! Mail has not been tested with your operating system. | Dec 24 14:16 |
| DaemonFC | You can choose to continue anyway, or simply go to Yahoo! Mail Classic. | Dec 24 14:16 |
| DaemonFC | really? | Dec 24 14:16 |
| DaemonFC | REALLY? | Dec 24 14:16 |
| DaemonFC | five offline messages from Yahoo messenger contacts | Dec 24 14:17 |
| DaemonFC | all spam because they had their messenger software operated by Windows malware | Dec 24 14:18 |
| DaemonFC | that's always been fairly common | Dec 24 14:18 |
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| DaemonFC | spam spam spam | Dec 24 14:19 |
| DaemonFC | newsletter | Dec 24 14:19 |
| DaemonFC | tons more spam | Dec 24 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | some groups I never unsubscribed from | Dec 24 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Dec 24 14:20 |
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| iophk | http://gizmodo.com/5870920/brave-godaddy-ceo-says-hes-neither-for-nor-against-sopa | Dec 24 14:26 |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC: wonder if yahoo will follow MSN into jabber support | Dec 24 14:27 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: so solving the client from hell problem. | Dec 24 14:27 |
| DaemonFC | Windows Live XMPP is a roach motel | Dec 24 14:28 |
| DaemonFC | their server only accepts connections from their own clients | Dec 24 14:29 |
| MinceR | how do they exclude others? | Dec 24 14:29 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: auth model. | Dec 24 14:29 |
| oiaohm | But it documented. | Dec 24 14:29 |
| DaemonFC | API keys + custom authorization protocol | Dec 24 14:29 |
| MinceR | ah, the cisco way | Dec 24 14:29 |
| oiaohm | Yep cisco version of XMPP had this issue at start as well DaemonFC | Dec 24 14:30 |
| MinceR | it still has this issue | Dec 24 14:30 |
| oiaohm | There is a wrapper for it that turns it sane. MinceR | Dec 24 14:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Shooters walk free, whistleblower jailed - good documentary on Collateral Murder http://t.co/CPA4HiGw | Dec 24 14:31 | |
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| DaemonFC | Indiana's secretary of state was found to have been in office illegally for over a year | Dec 24 14:34 |
| DaemonFC | due to voter fraud | Dec 24 14:34 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 24 14:34 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.indystar.com/article/20111224/LOCAL18/112240332/Secretary-of-State-Charlie-White-to-remain-in-office-for-now?odyssey=tab|mostpopular|text|FRONTPAGE | Dec 24 14:35 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/virginia-politics/post/perry-disqualified-from-va-primary-ballot/2011/12/23/gIQA3BZNEP_blog.html | Dec 24 14:39 |
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| DaemonFC | Mitt Romney basically can't lose that primary now | Dec 24 14:40 |
| schestowitz | [14:26] <iophk> http://gizmodo.com/5870920/brave-godaddy-ceo-says-hes-neither-for-nor-against-sopa | Dec 24 14:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Brave GoDaddy CEO Says He's Neither For Nor Against SOPA .::. Size~: 82.76 KB | Dec 24 14:41 |
| schestowitz | Translation: he is for it, but his wallet is not | Dec 24 14:41 |
| schestowitz | "I'm in favour, but I don't want to say it" | Dec 24 14:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] 'The US has not seen a lower moment' - Dan Choi on legal moves against WikiLeaks http://t.co/qH0YxqFI #Assange #Manning #wikileaks | Dec 24 14:41 | |
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| DaemonFC | just what we need, another Texas governor | Dec 24 14:42 |
| DaemonFC | will the supreme court appoint Perry like they did Bush? | Dec 24 14:42 |
| iophk | He's for it, but perhaps only working behind the scenes. | Dec 24 14:42 |
| DaemonFC | they're just being less stupid now | Dec 24 14:42 |
| DaemonFC | they probably never figured on this kind of blowback | Dec 24 14:43 |
| schestowitz | I've left that in a comment | Dec 24 14:47 |
| iophk | He speaks of '"consensus" among "internet leadership,"', but he is the odd man out. Without GoDaddy's position, the consensus among all other Internet companies is that SOPA sucks. | Dec 24 14:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Crowdsourced List of #SOPA Supporters http://goo.gl/qLRry - please RT | Dec 24 14:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fosspatents/@fosspatents] The Telegraph (UK) "examines the case for the prosecution": 'Reckless' Google in the dock over Android patents http://tgr.ph/ve019s | Dec 24 14:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Crowdsourced List of SOPA Supporters - Slashdot .::. Size~: 102.24 KB | Dec 24 14:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-[fosspatents/@fosspatents] The Telegraph (UK) "examines the case for the prosecution": 'Reckless' Google in the dock over Android patents http://tgr.ph/ve019s | Dec 24 14:48 | |
| DaemonFC | the fact that Debian's multiarch is such a shambles should terrify anyone that looks at it hard enough | Dec 24 14:51 |
| DaemonFC | it's the only reason why Wine is completely stuffed right now in Ubuntu | Dec 24 14:51 |
| DaemonFC | Debian isn't bothering to follow the FHS | Dec 24 14:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Kernel prepatch 3.2-rc7 http://ur1.ca/6xqfn | Dec 24 14:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Xmas Eve: #Assange: 381 days detained-no charge; WikiLeaks: 384 days of US banking blockade; Manning: 578 days in jail https://t.co/OrcGw137 | Dec 24 14:51 | |
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| schestowitz | iophk: he's market leader | Dec 24 14:57 |
| schestowitz | others try to poach customers in | Dec 24 14:57 |
| schestowitz | it's like talktalk when British ISPs batted for DEB | Dec 24 14:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] In the Year of the Protestor, Bradley Manning is the great dissenter | Irish Times http://t.co/ulbdRFth | Dec 24 15:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Lessons for 2011: Never be a source for the NYTimes or Guardian-they'll hang you, not defend you, when the chips come down #manning #assange | Dec 24 15:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @carwinb: Everybody better dig deep and get to work. This is not a dress rehearsal #SOPA #NDAA #Bagram #ows https://t.co/s2obosj0 | Dec 24 15:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @AJEnglish: On @AJListeningPost: What implications could the case of Bradley Manning have on #whistleblowers in the #US? http://t.co/ ... | Dec 24 15:31 | |
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| iophk | schestowitz: the backlash quieted him down but does not seem to have change either his mind or, more importantly, his companies actions and position. | Dec 24 15:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] On @AJListeningPost: What implications could the case of Bradley Manning have on #whistleblowers in the #US? http://t.co/ymjmpu9Y | Dec 24 15:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] #Facebook Plans To Sell Your Timeline to Advertisers http://2tu.us/3n20 #FB | Dec 24 15:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Exclusive: Leaked Details of How Facebook Plans To Sell Your Timeline to Advertisers | Betabeat — News, gossip and intel from Silicon Alley 2.0. .::. Size~: 58.49 KB | Dec 24 15:43 |
| iophk | http://pthree.org/2011/12/23/boycott-godaddy/ | Dec 24 15:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Aaron Toponce : Boycott GoDaddy .::. Size~: 32.4 KB | Dec 24 15:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] Calculating the Elop Effect: He's already destroyed a company the size of Oracle, and profits the size of Google http://ur1.ca/6xr6q | Dec 24 15:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Communities Dominate Brands: Calculating the Elop Effect: He's already destroyed a company the size of Oracle, and profits the size of Google .::. Size~: 178.36 KB | Dec 24 15:48 |
| iophk | Elop's work is done. He will move on to the next target or a reward for his damage. | Dec 24 15:49 |
| gnufreex | Ozborne effect is now outdated. Elop effect is biggest disaster. | Dec 24 15:49 |
| gnufreex | But did he even help WP7 | Dec 24 15:49 |
| gnufreex | ? | Dec 24 15:49 |
| gnufreex | It is still not selling | Dec 24 15:49 |
| gnufreex | lol | Dec 24 15:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Let's be absolutely clear about this. +GoDaddy.com didn't have a changed of heart; they just got scared. We can forgiv... http://b1t.it/aixj | Dec 24 15:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Let's be absolutely clear about this. @GoDaddy.com didn't have a changed of heart; they just got scared. We can forgiv... http://b1t.it/aixl | Dec 24 15:50 | |
| iophk | Elop was more of a Belluzzo than invoking the Osbourne effect | Dec 24 15:50 |
| MinceR | it would sell even less if mokia didn't adopt it | Dec 24 15:50 |
| iophk | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=belluzzo | Dec 24 15:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Maximum (32) redirects followed ( http://b1t.it/aixj ) | Dec 24 15:50 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Urban Dictionary: belluzzo .::. Size~: 18.49 KB | Dec 24 15:50 |
| MinceR | i think the nokia brand is selling wp7 and not the other way around | Dec 24 15:50 |
| iophk | That's the goal. | Dec 24 15:50 |
| gnufreex | What market share WP7 has now? | Dec 24 15:51 |
| gnufreex | Is it more than 1% | Dec 24 15:51 |
| gnufreex | ? | Dec 24 15:51 |
| iophk | Yes, it has rocketed up to 2% | Dec 24 15:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] MT @SenatorLudlam: error in #wikileaks wire story - we were denied meetings with all Swedish foreign ministry officials #svpol | Dec 24 15:51 | |
| iophk | http://wmpoweruser.com/windows-phone-7-crosses-2-market-share-in-usa-has-7-of-german-market/ | Dec 24 15:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Windows Phone 7 crosses 2% market share in USA, has 7% of German market | WMPoweruser .::. Size~: 88.13 KB | Dec 24 15:51 |
| gnufreex | iophk: Yeah I know belluzo. | Dec 24 15:51 |
| gnufreex | iophk: lol. | Dec 24 15:52 |
| iophk | That's smart phone sales alone not including feature phones. | Dec 24 15:53 |
| gnufreex | It has 7% in germany http://wmpoweruser.com/windows-phone-7-crosses-2-market-share-in-usa-has-7-of-german-market/ | Dec 24 15:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Windows Phone 7 crosses 2% market share in USA, has 7% of German market | WMPoweruser .::. Size~: 88.13 KB | Dec 24 15:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I will only say it once. Wish you all fun and love for christmas, no matter where you are and how you celebrate it (or not). | Dec 24 15:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] "I am #Batman#!" http://goo.gl/oxr7C | Dec 24 15:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The intellectual cowardice of Bradley Mannings critics | Salon @ggreenwald http://t.co/vYhHJpvb | Dec 24 16:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Priang_el Ik vind dat stiekem een leuke tweet. Heb je je wilde haardos bijna helemaal terug? | Dec 24 16:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @LennartMart @t1mdp Vind ik grappig. | Dec 24 16:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @kodel @librarianbe @bramula bovendien is de dader best gekend in het hackersmilieu :) | Dec 24 16:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @maleadt @t1mdp ik vraag alvast niet hoe je er bij komt. | Dec 24 16:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Miel_vds jazeker! Dan mag je meteen feedback geven ;) | Dec 24 16:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @kodel: Zalig, even omroepsysteem van de #NMBS hacken om tickets terug te laten betalen http://ur1.c http://ur1. ... | Dec 24 16:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Choisissez GROOT GELIJK JONG | Dec 24 16:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @AnneCruyt haha! Lose control? ;) | Dec 24 16:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp ok, de benchmarks leren me nieuwe dingen. | Dec 24 16:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @stefroelandt: Having a cool discussion with the #thedatatank guys at #MMLab_UGent | Dec 24 16:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @phpizer: TheDataTank http://t.co/lJJT0mMq | Dec 24 16:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Final class as an engineering student, #MailboxZero for the first time in 4 weeks, finishing my thesis. http://ur1. ... | Dec 24 16:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @savermeulen yup ;) | Dec 24 16:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @Treinbegeleider: @Choisissez 80% van de treinbegeleiders en 70% van de bestuurders steunen de actie http://ur1. ... | Dec 24 16:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @librarianbe dankje! | Dec 24 16:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @Choisissez: IK SLAAP VOLGENDE WEEK WEL BIJ | Dec 24 16:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Choisissez iRail 3.0 vanaf februari hé baaaybie ;) /cc @rcallewaert @hannesvdvreken | Dec 24 16:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Weer een mail op schooladres "Stimulating entrepreneurship of our students". Dat ze eerst eens met onze http://ur1. ... | Dec 24 16:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Tanfoglio_ Kot | Dec 24 16:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @hannesvdvreken hmmm, ik ben het momenteel nog niet dus ik zou het er niet opzetten | Dec 24 16:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ piratepartyca: Good news, but they're already too late: "GoDaddy Drops SOPA Support After Customer Revolt http://t.co/q6SiWKWF" | Dec 24 16:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Lessons for 2011: Best cables paper: Hindu. Best group: McClatchy & AP. Best journalist @ausflatfish. Best meta-journalist @ggreenwald. | Dec 24 16:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Esta Semana (2011/51) – BOAS FESTAS…o PS e a MAFIAA; O Estado Cleptocrata de Obama « O Vigia #blog http://goo.gl/dXmBx | Dec 24 16:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] perhaps there needs a new rule; use your #Identica account primarily to chat, or limit the announcement dents to a few per week | Dec 24 16:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Don't stop now, because #GoDaddy is scared. Onward to the walls of the Disney castle and the Comcast bridge! http://is.gd/CEVytM #SOPA #PIPA | Dec 24 16:16 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Luigi Arnold - Google+ - http://technorati.com/technology/article/godaddy-pulls-supp… .::. Size~: 49.81 KB | Dec 24 16:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Gingrich, who called for the assassination of Assange, disqualified in Va. ballot along with Perry. Romney vs. Paul now http://t.co/kwt2E1BV | Dec 24 16:21 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGgQkRJdb5U&feature=digest_mon | Dec 24 16:22 |
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| schestowitz | iophk: MS and Nokia got caught astorturfing | Dec 24 16:23 |
| schestowitz | more details after xmas | Dec 24 16:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Impromptu primo reunion going at my place ! All Plainsview Class of 2000 invited. You too, Flo. DM for directions! | Dec 24 16:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] Counter to bystanders: Make it illegal to perform of Display non-Free works in public spaces. Therefore no copyright pollution for them. | Dec 24 16:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Also, happy Kwanzaa bitches! | Dec 24 16:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] New physics paper explores JA's Conspiracy as Governance letter https://t.co/vkrdofO9 | Dec 24 16:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @misstech Joyous Christmas eve, all. I still have some to-do.s, to do. Hello and goodbye. | Dec 24 16:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @afiestas: "Read" part of QRandR almost finished, have to refactor a few things, clean a few others and push the code. | Dec 24 16:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] top: "pro-gov; officially more than 50k ppl"; bottom "anti-gov; officially 29k ppl" ♻ t.co/waeJdZYI /via @kallekn @plushev @den_bad | Dec 24 16:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] If we can get Disney, Comcast, and one of the big sports leagues to surrender, I think #SOPA and #PIPA will collapse almost overnight. | Dec 24 17:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Smartest People In The World - http://goo.gl/2Qd8E | Dec 24 17:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Over on Diaspora: Ive given in to the Kindle - http://goo.gl/zIAyX #kindle | Dec 24 17:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Over on Diaspora: I've given in to the Kindle.... http://goo.gl/zIAyX #kindle | Dec 24 17:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Debt-Free U.S. Notes Were Once Issued Under #JFK And The U.S. Gov Still Has The Power To Issue Debt-Free Money - #fed http://goo.gl/AhKDS | Dec 24 17:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] Now ripping.... Planet Earth ... I am getting so close to being able to put the DVDs in storage | Dec 24 17:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] 2011 in Review: fighting the Internet #blacklist bills https://eff.org/r.4MM #SOPA #PIPA | Dec 24 17:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 2011 in Review: Fighting the Internet Blacklist Bills | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 30.61 KB | Dec 24 17:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] namebench - Open-source #DNS Benchmark Utility - Google Project Hosting - #FLOSSTOOLS #networking http://goo.gl/0IjZ7 | Dec 24 17:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] time to checkout my holiday "gift" from coworker Dan AKA Danowrimo | Dec 24 18:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Neat! http://ur1.ca/6xtql | Dec 24 18:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @jezra the PR move is to back off, wait until the next carriage of the same train next yr with a new bill, see if they support that | Dec 24 18:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Eva Golinger Blasts BS Stupid Anti- #Iran Propaganda on RT | COLLAPSENET - #usa #stateterrorism #wwiii http://goo.gl/Z03r9 | Dec 24 18:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] :) Seasons greetings Gordon...it's been too long! Hope you are well.. Wish you all the best... Tim & Family... | Dec 24 18:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Oh and I haven't forgot, 2012 you WILL be coming down to me for a holiday! ;) | Dec 24 18:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Spanish Implosion Coming Up | COLLAPSENET - #spain #eu #collapse http://goo.gl/1jgA0 | Dec 24 18:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] They're Trying to Kill Us | COLLAPSENET - #usa #fda #food http://goo.gl/JSNzb | Dec 24 18:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Prophets of Doom | Watch Free Documentary Online - #docs http://goo.gl/3EpVh | Dec 24 18:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] http://ur1.ca/6xu1f #sip_and_click Festivus loot | Dec 24 18:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] W3C TAG Publishes Finding on Identifying Application State http://ow.ly/1gm9iI | Dec 24 18:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !linuxlibre 3.1.6-libre-lemote, 3.0.14-libre-lemote and 2.6.32.51-libre2-lemote binaries for !gnewsense/mipsel !yeeloong now available | Dec 24 18:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Gingrich, #Perry fail to qualify for #GOP primary ballot in Virginia - CNN.com - bye bye http://goo.gl/VaIOZ | Dec 24 18:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !linuxlibre 3.1.6-1.fc16 and 2.6.41.6-1.fc15 binaries for i686 and x86_64 in Freed-ora testing | Dec 24 18:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Christmas is like a living Discworld; people feeling social pressure to conform to stereotypes to fit in, convincing themselves it's them | Dec 24 19:05 | |
| schestowitz | Uber-engineer Mac Asay: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/12/02/apache_bureaucracy_wading_into_the_argument/ | Dec 24 19:15 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is jpope from micro.jpope.org with 75 dents! | Dec 24 19:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @nybill Its ~90 degrees in Australia and they got hail. You guys do everything upside down, @vk7hse. :P http://imgur.com/a/99Rfh | Dec 24 20:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Dutch Parliament: Downloading Movies and Music Will Stay Legal http://goo.gl/f5JKI following the Swiss | Dec 24 20:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] What Do We Do When the Internet Mob Is Wrong? http://goo.gl/8X4fZ | Dec 24 20:06 | |
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| scientes | The music really makes this video: https://donate.mozilla.org/page/contribute/the-mozilla-story?source=20111200_snippet_v2&WT_mc_id=story2 | Dec 24 20:10 |
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| scientes | http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2011/12/how-hackers-gave-subway-a-30-million-lesson-in-point-of-sale-security.ars this wouldn't have happened with linux | Dec 24 20:25 |
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| scientes | "downloading low-cost remote desktop software from the Internet" | Dec 24 20:26 |
| scientes | i.e. crapware | Dec 24 20:26 |
| schestowitz | http://www.readwriteweb.com/hack/2011/12/requiem-for-silverlight.php | Dec 24 20:30 |
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| iophk | Merry Christmas | Dec 24 21:54 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ghostler/@ghostler] RT @schestowitz Ubuntu 11.10 'Oneiric Ocelot' Will Power New PC Line http://goo.gl/7IJnl #gnu #linux #ubuntu | Dec 24 22:01 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu 11.10 'Oneiric Ocelot' Will Power New PC Line | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 83.36 KB | Dec 24 22:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ghostler/@ghostler] RT @schestowitz Why the Operating System is becoming irrelevant http://goo.gl/R2zzA #desktop #gnu | Dec 24 22:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ghostler/@ghostler] RT @schestowitz Open source: Pretty much right on track http://ur1.ca/6x070 | Dec 24 22:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ghostler/@ghostler] RT @schestowitz "Linux-based prototype of what it claims is the first open-source infotainment system." http://goo.gl/4OR9m #linux | Dec 24 22:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why the Operating System is becoming irrelevant | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 57.98 KB | Dec 24 22:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Open source: Pretty much right on track | ITworld .::. Size~: 123.13 KB | Dec 24 22:03 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] So, too soon to say we're doing well today? | Dec 24 22:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I'm sadly at the point where if identi.ca and status.net aren't catastrophically offline for a 6-hour stretch, I declare victory. | Dec 24 22:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Like a candle. | Dec 24 22:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] You're the Tellarites. | Dec 24 22:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Prosecutors say Manning and Assange collaborated in stealing secret documents | Washington Post http://t.co/HFmOfRfv http://t.co/z9zQ6zgn | Dec 24 22:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Dat laatste hoofdstuk aan de thesis is dan maar voor morgen. #kerstdinge | Dec 24 22:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] Happy winter solstice!! / Feliz solsticio de invierno!! :D | Dec 24 22:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @LennartMart: @t1mdp ja, nuja, niet echt tegen mij. Mijn ma heeft al 4 dagen mn tablet ingenomen. Du http://ur1. ... | Dec 24 22:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @rms: Urgent: Veto NDAA http://ur1.ca/6xy5e | Dec 24 22:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: http://t.co/J2zKiAhK hic quoque. Over here as well. #eenleukonorigineecadeau | Dec 24 22:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @ioerror: lulz… GoDaddy is still officially on the record supporting SOPA and won't retract support: http://t.co/QMvRsnao | Dec 24 22:21 | |
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| scientes | http://xmpp.org/2011/09/microsoft-adds-xmpp-support-to-windows-live-apis/ | Dec 24 22:26 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @viroos: RT @HackerNewsYC: Exclusive: Leaked Details of How Facebook Plans To Sell Your Timeline to Advertisers... ur1.ca/6xye3 | Dec 24 22:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Happy "being a product" everyone! ur1.ca/6xye3 http://rys.io/en/15 #Failbook #Timeline | Dec 24 22:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YAFR (Yet Another Facebook Rant) :: RysioBrag .::. Size~: 9.47 KB | Dec 24 22:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks Xmas presents: send them to your friends and enemies http://t.co/4qUa1aJW | Dec 24 23:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @rsiddharth: merry !gravmass day. Observe Mother Nature and be Thankful for all that you get from her : http://ur1.ca/6odwm | Dec 24 23:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Rap News Xmas featuring Noam Chomsky, WikiLeaks & Anonymous http://t.co/xddtFmZt | Dec 24 23:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @woutervddn achter je 0.07 staat een haakje teveel als ik me niet vergis. | Dec 24 23:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @woutervddn zitten veel foutjes in hoor vriend | Dec 24 23:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @k_mood hé Katrijn, het komt allemaal goed! | Dec 24 23:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @woutervddn dit krijg ik: http://t.co/NqvvR8jL | Dec 24 23:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @RozeRidder Wow! @Tanfoglio_ zou jaloers zijn! Zo'n vriendin! | Dec 24 23:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @woutervddn haakjes ;) | Dec 24 23:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Tuinslak I spot some amazon deliveries ;) | Dec 24 23:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @ioerror: Do you feel like Congress doesn't listen? Maybe you just don't know how to talk to them? Here's a guide: http://t.co/Pn7OtUcJ | Dec 24 23:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] :D <3 ♻ @forteller: Awesome! RT @larre: GoDaddy lost 21,054 domains yesterday in wake of SOPA PR disaster tnw.to/1CMq1 /via @TheNextWeb | Dec 24 23:53 | |
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