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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: US Government Talks About Providing Free Software that Helps Chinese Netizens Overcome Filters http://goo.gl/dbpwt #wlDec 29 00:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @forteller: @rysiek Yes. I agree. The concept is just awesome! #PioneerOne We need to spread this more! Read: http://bit.ly/vhwlIYDec 29 00:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Ten plotlines you'll find in science fiction - over and over again - #scifi http://goo.gl/7FCRs http://ur1.ca/71vwjDec 29 00:01
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: 'Pioneer One' Revisited: You Better Be Watching This Show .::. Size~: 134.18 KBDec 29 00:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ten plotlines you'll find in science fiction - over and over again .::. Size~: 120.45 KBDec 29 00:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: cryptogon.com    » Ten Plotlines You’ll Find in Science Fiction — Over and Over Again .::. Size~: 12.35 KBDec 29 00:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Very Best #Books I've Read in 2010 // Brainsturbator http://goo.gl/PTfeUDec 29 00:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] cryptogon.com » The Leading Cause of Breast Cancer: Medical Radiation - #scitek #medicine http://goo.gl/NwP2PDec 29 00:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Very Best Books I've Read in 2010 // Brainsturbator .::. Size~: 44.45 KBDec 29 00:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] cryptogon.com » #DHS Using Fake #Facebook and #Twitter Accounts to Monitor Posts Containing Certain Keywords - #usa http://goo.gl/a5u2hDec 29 00:06
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*XFaCE gives voice to cubezzzDec 29 00:06
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schestowitz_Goblin: when will there be time to record season 2?Dec 29 00:12
XFaCEschestowitz: There are no seasons, rememeber?Dec 29 00:13
schestowitz^-&Dec 29 00:13
_Goblin:)Dec 29 00:13
schestowitzno ep numbers eitherDec 29 00:13
schestowitzoriginalylDec 29 00:13
XFaCEoh, and hi _Goblin Dec 29 00:13
_Goblinnew years day...nowDec 29 00:13
_Goblinor around that time...Dec 29 00:14
XFaCEMy birthday in two daysDec 29 00:14
XFaCEThis FridayDec 29 00:14
_Goblinhow did the move by the g/f go?Dec 29 00:14
_Goblinjust found out via a post by a Microsoft Advocate who has obviously been following you again...Dec 29 00:14
XFaCE_Goblin: I had a weak moment just nowDec 29 00:14
XFaCE"Hmm… how about get rid of software patents, as he and others including Mike Cuban have suggested? In fact, I seem to recall Roy making this suggestion a million times. At the end of the day, it isn’t up to Roy to find solutions. Your snide passive-aggressive statement here is the same sort of ignorant crap used against OWS. The politicians and the experts involved are or should be smart to fix it, but they don’t because of various reasons.Dec 29 00:15
XFaCEIn short, your comment is a textbook example of being obstinate and juvenile, and I wish you would stop making such comments. As you seem to have a personal vendetta or obsession against Roy akin to Ahab and his whale, I unfortunately don’t see that happening any time soon."Dec 29 00:15
*XFaCE said this in reply to another snide Snit comment.Dec 29 00:15
_Goblinthe shame is, if Michael dropped the confrontational and argumentative to the point of ad infinitum then he would probably be an interesting chap to listen to.Dec 29 00:16
XFaCE_Goblin: I totallyDec 29 00:16
XFaCEagreeDec 29 00:16
_Goblinunfortunately it seems that everything is an argument and needs to be rehashed to the point of irrelelvance where the original point is long lostDec 29 00:17
MinceRwhich Michael?Dec 29 00:17
_Goblinsnit.Dec 29 00:17
XFaCEMinceR: Snit/MichaelDec 29 00:17
MinceRoh.Dec 29 00:17
XFaCEMinceR: ...not you?Dec 29 00:17
MinceRhuh?Dec 29 00:17
XFaCEMinceR: Are you a Michael?Dec 29 00:17
MinceRnopeDec 29 00:17
XFaCEoh, n/m thenbDec 29 00:17
_GoblinNiether am I and nor is my wifeDec 29 00:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: Indian Ambassador Criticises UNESCO for Signing a Software Agreement With Microsoft http://goo.gl/d4hHEDec 29 00:17
_Goblin;)Dec 29 00:18
MinceRlolDec 29 00:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cablegate: Indian Ambassador Criticises UNESCO for Signing a Software Agreement With Microsoft | Techrights .::. Size~: 95.66 KBDec 29 00:18
XFaCE_Goblin: Wouldn't that be a husband then?Dec 29 00:18
_Goblinno...Dec 29 00:18
_Goblinits a take on a Monty Python sketchDec 29 00:18
XFaCEWell jeez, I didn't know. I didn't expect a Spanish Inquisition.Dec 29 00:19
XFaCE:)Dec 29 00:19
MinceRNOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!Dec 29 00:19
_Goblin:)Dec 29 00:20
XFaCEOur chief weapon is surprise, surprise and fear, our two weapons, surprise and fear, and...Dec 29 00:20
MinceRand ruthless efficiencyDec 29 00:21
schestowitz" In press statements, Apple said that the French copyright law amounted to "state-sponsored piracy" and that it would pull its business out of France. "Dec 29 00:21
schestowitzhttp://wikileaks.org/cable/2006/05/06PARIS3153.htmlDec 29 00:21
MinceRour three weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...Dec 29 00:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cable Viewer .::. Size~: 197.39 KBDec 29 00:21
schestowitzJobs' cult uses shame lists strategy to change French lawDec 29 00:21
schestowitzHADOPIDec 29 00:21
XFaCEschestowitz: LOL@franceDec 29 00:21
XFaCEschestowitz: Between this and the copyright laws, France is a laughing stockDec 29 00:22
schestowitzyeahDec 29 00:22
schestowitzSarko tooDec 29 00:22
XFaCEschestowitz: Isn't VLC, of French origin, illegal in France?Dec 29 00:22
_Goblinwhat the video player?Dec 29 00:23
XFaCE_Goblin: No, the multivitamin. Of course the video player!Dec 29 00:23
XFaCE:)Dec 29 00:23
_GoblinI would doubt it..... the EU would not allow such a law I believeDec 29 00:23
XFaCEhmmDec 29 00:23
_Goblinmaybe a codec has some legal implication in FranceDec 29 00:24
XFaCE!google france illegal vlcDec 29 00:24
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - VideoLAN - VideoLAN - DADVSI | http://www.videolan.org/press/eucd.htmlDec 29 00:24
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - VideoLAN - Frequently Asked Questions | http://www.videolan.org/support/faq.htmlDec 29 00:24
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Reading a DVD with VLC or mplayer is now illegal in France | http://www.rfc1149.net/blog/2006/12/30/reading-a-dvd-with-vlc-or-mplayer-is-now-illegal-in-france/Dec 29 00:24
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Justin.tv - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin.tvDec 29 00:24
_Goblinthere you goDec 29 00:24
_Goblinreading a dvd with vlc is illegal....Dec 29 00:24
XFaCE_Goblin: So you better not do it! Or else...Dec 29 00:24
_Goblinand if French law is similar to UK, it won't be illegal (bad choice of words)Dec 29 00:24
_Goblinit will be unlawfulDec 29 00:24
MinceRoohDec 29 00:24
XFaCEprohibited?Dec 29 00:24
_Goblinbig differenceDec 29 00:24
XFaCEyesDec 29 00:25
_Goblinillegal is burgling a house....Dec 29 00:25
_Goblinunlawful is....Dec 29 00:25
XFaCEso I should be calling it unlawful filesharing?Dec 29 00:25
_Goblinbuilding a conservatory without planning permissionDec 29 00:25
XFaCE:DDec 29 00:25
*XFaCE is now playing: Genesis - Silver RainbowDec 29 00:25
_Goblinand yes...filesharing is not illegal (unless its production copyright infringement)Dec 29 00:25
XFaCEexactlyDec 29 00:25
_Goblinwhat happens on a p2p network is "unlawful" in the spirit of the lawDec 29 00:26
XFaCE!google what is a silver rainbow?Dec 29 00:26
_Goblinand is vulnerable to civil law.Dec 29 00:26
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Silver Rainbow Company - Innovations Engineered Exclusively for ... | http://www.silver-rainbow.com/Dec 29 00:26
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Silver Rainbow Lyrics - Genesis | http://www.lyricsfreak.com/g/genesis/silver%2Brainbow_20058802.htmlDec 29 00:26
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - GENESIS - SILVER RAINBOW LYRICS | http://www.metrolyrics.com/silver-rainbow-lyrics-genesis.htmlDec 29 00:26
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - WELCOME TO MY SILVER RAINBOWS | http://www.angelfire.com/nv/SilverRainbow/Dec 29 00:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @doctorow: Boeing & other Fortune 100s (major customers) don't use Ipv6, so censorware doesn't support it, China can't censor IPv6 #28C3Dec 29 00:26
*MinceR is listening to: Hazel - Fatal AttractionDec 29 00:26
XFaCE_Goblin: We have common law hereDec 29 00:26
_Goblinwe have common law hereDec 29 00:26
XFaCEThen why did you say civil law?Dec 29 00:26
XFaCEBig difference?Dec 29 00:26
XFaCE*.\Dec 29 00:26
_GoblinyepDec 29 00:26
_Goblinexample....Dec 29 00:26
_Goblinas a mop you have a common law power of arrestDec 29 00:27
_Goblinwith limitations of courseDec 29 00:27
MinceRmob?Dec 29 00:27
_Goblinmember of publicDec 29 00:27
MinceRoh.Dec 29 00:27
_Goblinbut the difference with a mop's power and a law enforcements is....Dec 29 00:27
XFaCEMinceR: LolDec 29 00:28
XFaCEMobs should have the commons law power of arrestDec 29 00:28
_Goblina mop can only arrest if its done "whilst committing"...that is you have to see the person doing it....Dec 29 00:28
MinceRwell, initially i took "mop" literallyDec 29 00:28
_Goblinlaw enforcement have that power and can arrest on suspicion too.Dec 29 00:28
XFaCEMinceR: It wasn't me hitting you officer! It was the mop!Dec 29 00:28
MinceR:>Dec 29 00:28
_Goblinyep there you go!Dec 29 00:29
MinceRpeople don't kill people, mops kill people! *crack*Dec 29 00:29
_Goblinnot alwaysDec 29 00:29
_Goblinbut I like it!Dec 29 00:29
MinceRkinky!Dec 29 00:29
XFaCElolDec 29 00:29
XFaCEwell this has derailedDec 29 00:29
_GoblinI believe......(and I could be wrong here, I would need to check)Dec 29 00:29
XFaCEActually, bblDec 29 00:29
_Goblinif you assault someone and up to one year after that assault they die of related complications, a charge can be broughtDec 29 00:30
_Goblinbut as I say.....Dec 29 00:30
_GoblinI have to double check that....Dec 29 00:30
_GoblinI have a feeling its either longer or does not have any time limit at all.Dec 29 00:30
_Goblinlove reading up on laws....Dec 29 00:31
_Goblinheres a good one, its not an offense to be "inappriopriate" with a Stallion as long as its not 50 yards or less from a highway....Dec 29 00:32
MinceRlolDec 29 00:32
_Goblingo figure that one....Dec 29 00:32
_Goblinnever been to jerseyDec 29 00:32
MinceRStallion as in horse or some sort of human title?Dec 29 00:32
_Goblindon't think I want to go now..Dec 29 00:32
_Goblinstallion as in horseDec 29 00:32
_Goblinthe mind bogglesDec 29 00:32
_Goblinits one of those laws that I think never was changed......Dec 29 00:33
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1105154 "Dude! those leaves look exactly like lizards. Amazing!"Dec 29 00:33
_Goblinpersonally I'd consider it to be innapropriate anywhere....can't understand why its only 50 yards from a highway that is an offense.Dec 29 00:33
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MinceRand what sort of "inappropriate" do they mean?Dec 29 00:34
_Goblinas I say....Dec 29 00:34
_Goblinthe mind boggles.....Dec 29 00:34
_Goblininappropriate was my word....Dec 29 00:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: Apple Attacks French Copyright Law to Induce Various Restrictions (Including DRM) http://goo.gl/xQYuq #apple #wikileaksDec 29 00:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cablegate: Apple Attacks French Copyright Law to Induce Various Restrictions (Including DRM), Marginalisation of Rights | Techrights .::. Size~: 102.02 KBDec 29 00:34
_GoblinSorry I should make it clear...the horsie legistlation is from Jersey I believe.Dec 29 00:35
_Goblinheres another....Dec 29 00:36
_Goblinits an offence for a hired carrage in london not to have two bails of hay on board.Dec 29 00:36
_Goblingoes back to the days of horse drawn carraiges and has never been removed.....in theory it applies to Taxis....when you are next in London demand to see his/her two bails of hay when you get on board a taxiDec 29 00:37
MinceRlolDec 29 00:38
MinceRwill they take it as innuendo?Dec 29 00:38
_Goblinoh and one to debunk.....Dec 29 00:38
_GoblinTheres an urban myth that its not an offence for a bus driver to urinate in public, if he is touching the rear tire of his vehicle with one hand.......thats ones rubbish.Dec 29 00:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bad Apple is doing bad things in HADOPI land using blackmail (allegedly claiming it "it would pull its business out of http://ur1.ca/71wv4Dec 29 00:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ Bad Apple is doing bad things in HADOPI land using blackmail (allegedly claiming it "it would pull its business out of http://ur1. ...Dec 29 00:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cablegate: Apple Attacks French Copyright Law to Induce Various Restrictions (Including DRM), Marginalisation of Rights | Techrights .::. Size~: 102.02 KBDec 29 00:39
_Goblinit used to be law that a criminal could hold onto the door knocker of Durham Cathedral and could not be arrested as long as he/she remained holding it.....Dec 29 00:40
_Goblindon't think it would work today.....Dec 29 00:40
MinceReven if it did, how long could you hold onto it? :>Dec 29 00:41
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MinceRhm, what if the criminal pried the door knocker off and took it with him? :>Dec 29 00:42
_GoblintrueDec 29 00:42
_GoblinI'll get back to you on that one....Dec 29 00:42
MinceR:)Dec 29 00:42
_GoblinI have a Kindle ebook on dodgy old laws.....I'll find out!Dec 29 00:43
_Goblinoh and I love my KindleDec 29 00:43
_Goblinits greatDec 29 00:43
MinceRi prefer my Icarus Sense :)Dec 29 00:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] Changes since v0.6 include: - Translation files are included in the binary as resources and loaded correctly. - Metadat http://ur1.ca/71wy6Dec 29 00:44
MinceReven if it hangs sometimes, or the touchscreen becomes irresponsiveDec 29 00:44
_Goblinmade of wax and feathers? Not much sense there...Dec 29 00:44
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Auralquiz v0.7 released! «  Jan+KDE .::. Size~: 37.88 KBDec 29 00:44
MinceRnopeDec 29 00:44
MinceRhttps://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/4FFF_N618Dec 29 00:44
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 403 ForbiddenDec 29 00:44
cubezzzIcarus with new heat sensing technology :)Dec 29 00:45
_GoblinMinceR: Cool!Dec 29 00:45
MinceRno, it's capacitive :)Dec 29 00:45
_Goblinwhere do you get your ebooks from?Dec 29 00:45
MinceRthe web and bittorrentDec 29 00:45
_GoblinI've got quite a few titles from BlacklibraryDec 29 00:45
_Goblinmind you....£6.50 is a little steep considering there are no paper overheads.Dec 29 00:46
_GoblinI think a paperback was £9 of the same title.Dec 29 00:47
cubezzztry $16 for some ebooks in Canada :-/Dec 29 00:47
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MinceRwith or without DRM? :>Dec 29 00:47
cubezzzwith DRM!Dec 29 00:47
_Goblinthe ones from theblacklibrary.com come without DRMDec 29 00:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: #Brazil Advocates, Praises “the Usefulness of Free, Open Source Software” http://ur1.ca/71x1e... http://b1t.it/akEhDec 29 00:47
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_Goblinbut its pretty accademic since I only read a book once, and I'll be reading it on the kindleDec 29 00:48
_Goblindon't really have much need to keep hold of the ebook after I've read it....Dec 29 00:48
_Goblinunless it turns out to be a true classic.....then of course I would (but probably also buy the hardback for my bookshelf)Dec 29 00:49
schestowitzhttp://cablegatesearch.net/cable.php?id=07PARIS1789&q=open-source%20software "Dec 29 00:49
schestowitz(C) Finally, Segolene Royal's flirtation with the open source Dec 29 00:49
schestowitzcommunity contrasts with Sarkozy's expressed concern for Dec 29 00:49
schestowitzensuring the defense of intellectual property in the digital Dec 29 00:49
schestowitzenvironment, and fair competition between open source and Dec 29 00:49
schestowitzproprietary software.  A UMP government likely would be a more Dec 29 00:49
schestowitzsympathetic partner for working through issues -- such as the Dec 29 00:49
schestowitzinteroperability question associated with last year's digital Dec 29 00:49
schestowitzcopyright law - that have an important impact on innovation in Dec 29 00:49
schestowitzthe digital environmenDec 29 00:49
schestowitz"Dec 29 00:49
_Goblin"Magician" by Raymond E Feist was the last book I considered to be a classic when I read it a few years agoDec 29 00:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cable reference id: #07PARIS1789 .::. Size~: 27.16 KBDec 29 00:50
_Goblinthought I'd lost the site...just spelt it wrong... the best place to go for WH40k works! :Dec 29 00:54
_Goblinhttp://www.blacklibrary.com/Dec 29 00:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Black Library .::. Size~: 42.53 KBDec 29 00:54
_GoblinFeel like a shill after that comment....Dec 29 00:54
cubezzzno referral link? :)Dec 29 00:56
cubezzzOprah recommends Xbox 360!Dec 29 00:56
_Goblinsomeone has to I suppose....Dec 29 00:56
*cubezzz recommends amiga 500Dec 29 00:57
_Goblinalthough its funny how now that software is demanding more rich media/cut scenes textures, the bad decision of MS and its DVD format is starting to show.Dec 29 00:57
_GoblinSkyrim is apparently rather unpleasant on a 360Dec 29 00:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] American Corporate Software Can No Longer Be Trusted For Anything http://goo.gl/WpfSb and he used to work for Microsoft...Dec 29 00:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: American Corporate Software Can No Longer Be Trusted For Anything - Falkvinge on Infopolicy .::. Size~: 287.01 KBDec 29 00:58
_Goblinoh talking of games.....Dec 29 00:58
_Goblindon't buy Dead Space 2 if you want to keep your dignity,Dec 29 00:58
_Goblinthe wife bought it for me and I didn't realize its a sort of horror film/game.....Dec 29 00:58
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cubezzz_Goblin, I've got nothing newer than Sega Genesis era :)Dec 29 00:59
_Goblingot the shock of my life early on when something jumped out and screamed....subsequently reflex action launched the controller in the air......most embarassingDec 29 00:59
_GoblinI hasten to add....it wasn't me screaming it was this orrible zombie thingDec 29 00:59
_Goblinits very well done though.....Dec 29 01:00
cubezzzwe didn't have that problem with Dig Dug and Galaga :)Dec 29 01:00
_Goblincubezzz: what? You've never played Elder Scrolls? Shame on you!Dec 29 01:00
_Goblinor space marine?Dec 29 01:01
cubezzzEye of the Beholder, Lands of Lore One and Two...Dec 29 01:01
_Goblinwhat a sheltered deprived life you lead..... ;)Dec 29 01:01
cubezzzKing's BountyDec 29 01:01
_GoblinHorace and the SpidersDec 29 01:01
_GoblinclassicDec 29 01:01
_GoblinBoulderdashDec 29 01:01
_GoblinclassicDec 29 01:01
cubezzzI've played some of the oldest vector games Dec 29 01:02
cubezzzLunar LanderDec 29 01:02
_GoblinAh... yesDec 29 01:02
_GoblintempestDec 29 01:02
cubezzzEmerald Mines on Amiga, which is similar to BoulderdashDec 29 01:02
_GoblinI think....Dec 29 01:02
_GoblinElite!Dec 29 01:02
_GoblinStarwars!Dec 29 01:02
cubezzzand of course I've played Rocksndiamonds on *nix Dec 29 01:02
cubezzzBattlezone, Red Baron :)Dec 29 01:03
_Goblin:)Dec 29 01:03
_Goblingood one.....Dec 29 01:03
_GoblinVirus???? -seem to have a vague memory of that game...Dec 29 01:03
cubezzzplayed a lot of late 70's pinball tooDec 29 01:03
_Goblinsee I could never like pinballDec 29 01:03
_Goblinto me it was more a game of chance than skillDec 29 01:04
cubezzzwhen I started to see arcades pop up,  they were all B&W video games and pinballDec 29 01:04
cubezzzoh, Star Hawk was another early vector gameDec 29 01:05
cubezzz1977Dec 29 01:05
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_Goblinthats going back a little too far for meDec 29 01:05
_GoblinI was 1981ish I thinkDec 29 01:05
cubezzzthis tie fighter thing would zoom up and substracr points from your score :)Dec 29 01:06
_Goblinthe damn empireDec 29 01:06
cubezzzonly game I can remember that could make your score decreaseDec 29 01:06
cubezzz_Goblin, Star Hawk was like an early version of Star WarsDec 29 01:07
_GoblinJet Set Willy!Dec 29 01:07
_Goblinclassic!Dec 29 01:07
cubezzzexcept it was just the trench partDec 29 01:07
_Goblinyes! I remember that.....it had towers did it not?Dec 29 01:07
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_Goblinand little box things stuck on the walls to shoot?Dec 29 01:08
_Goblinand then the end of the trench, you had to shoot the node on the left then on the right and then shoot the middle....Dec 29 01:08
_Goblinam I thinking of the same game?Dec 29 01:08
cubezzzummDec 29 01:09
cubezzzI don't remember that :)Dec 29 01:09
_Goblinah....Dec 29 01:09
_Goblinmaybe Im thinking of something elseDec 29 01:09
cubezzzmaybe there was a vectrex version?Dec 29 01:09
_GoblinI do remember a game similar to StarwarsDec 29 01:09
_GoblinZaxxon!Dec 29 01:09
_GoblinAnother classic....Dec 29 01:09
cubezzz_Goblin, I also played Gun Fight (1975) when it was new :)Dec 29 01:09
_Goblinnow that is too early for me.....Dec 29 01:10
cubezzzfirst bitmapped graphics in a video game I thinkDec 29 01:10
_Goblinof course, I would not be surprised though if 90% of this channel never remember a time when software was loaded by tape.Dec 29 01:10
cubezzzpaper tape or cassette tape? :)Dec 29 01:11
_Goblinsharp!Dec 29 01:11
_GoblinbothDec 29 01:11
_Goblinor what a Kempston interface was.Dec 29 01:11
_Goblinor 300bps dailup and BBSDec 29 01:12
_Goblin300baudDec 29 01:12
cubezzzI remember 300 baudDec 29 01:12
cubezzzI don't remember Kempston interfacesDec 29 01:12
_Goblincubezzz: it never felt slow did it ? (300 baud)Dec 29 01:12
_Goblinmy 14k flew on my Amiga.....Dec 29 01:12
cubezzzit was pretty slow, but then it was totally newDec 29 01:13
cubezzzexcept for 110 baud :)Dec 29 01:13
_GoblinKempston interface, was just a joystick interface for the spectrum which was popular at the time.Dec 29 01:13
cubezzzah, BritishDec 29 01:13
_Goblinyes....it was "rememberable" because...Dec 29 01:13
_Goblintry to remove it even slightly when the spectrum was on....you'd nuke your machineDec 29 01:14
_Goblina little like fiddling with the WIndows Registry today.....one wrong move and everythings ruined.Dec 29 01:14
cubezzz2switching computers...Dec 29 01:14
cubezzz2_Goblin, windows registry I've forgotten about :)Dec 29 01:15
_Goblinnow thats a classicDec 29 01:15
_Goblinhow something so stupid can make so much money moneyDec 29 01:15
_Goblinproof possitive that the mainstream consumer will buy anything.Dec 29 01:15
cubezzz2now I study mostly vintage *nix and amigaDec 29 01:15
cubezzz2_Goblin, the power of marketing...Dec 29 01:15
cubezzz2remember the pet rock? :)Dec 29 01:16
cubezzz2ok. maybe not :)Dec 29 01:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] My approach: use own mail server, send to other mail hosts only with caution, always encrypt where possible (PGP/other). #us #uk #spystateDec 29 01:18
_Goblinsorry afkDec 29 01:32
_Goblinsmoke...Dec 29 01:32
_GoblinKid rock I remember....Dec 29 01:32
_Goblinnot pet rock.Dec 29 01:32
_Goblinoh hang on....Dec 29 01:32
_Goblinnope its gone....Dec 29 01:33
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schestowitzHehDec 29 01:34
schestowitzKid RockDec 29 01:34
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DaemonFCOn AndroidDec 29 01:35
DaemonFC:)Dec 29 01:36
schestowitzO CanadaDec 29 01:37
schestowitzD-Oh-nDec 29 01:38
MinceR"Blame Canada!"Dec 29 01:38
formic_who else is from CanadaDec 29 01:39
schestowitzcubezzz2: Dec 29 01:39
DaemonFCNot IDec 29 01:39
schestowitzXFaCE: Dec 29 01:39
MinceRhemimaniac has a .ca host as wellDec 29 01:39
schestowitzguilty as charged... by Uncle Sam :-)Dec 29 01:39
formic_which country has the most people in hereDec 29 01:40
formic_US?Dec 29 01:40
schestowitzChoiiinaDec 29 01:40
MinceRi'd guess usaDec 29 01:40
formic_oh godz, USDec 29 01:40
formic_united states of corruptionDec 29 01:40
schestowitzit's the only country other than NZ where sheep outnumbr peopleDec 29 01:41
MinceRlolDec 29 01:41
*schestowitz kidsDec 29 01:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels nowDec 29 01:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels nowDec 29 01:41
schestowitzI sa goodnightDec 29 01:41
formic_the us is run by sheepleDec 29 01:41
MinceRi thought it was run by the biggest companiesDec 29 01:41
schestowitzIn the US, companies ARE peopleDec 29 01:42
formic_+1Dec 29 01:42
schestowitzTHey have privacy rights and suchDec 29 01:42
formic_i was thinking the companies control the media which influences the publicDec 29 01:42
formic_CNN, MSNBC, FOXDec 29 01:42
schestowitzTHey can fund people to run for progress as though they are individuals, since 2011Dec 29 01:42
schestowitzFOX is at least fair and balanced... I thinkDec 29 01:43
formic_i hope you are joking about FOXDec 29 01:43
schestowitzThey are fair and balanced in saying that they are fair and balancedDec 29 01:43
formic_fair and balanced for the richDec 29 01:43
MinceRwell, the companies have bought most politicians from the two big partiesDec 29 01:43
schestowitzMS funds both partiesDec 29 01:43
schestowitzleftie and rightieDec 29 01:43
MinceRand the funding of the campaigns and the stupidity of the citizens ensure that other parties and independents don't get a chanceDec 29 01:44
formic_i support the anarchist party by not votingDec 29 01:44
formic_lolDec 29 01:44
schestowitzFox is fair and balanced about being fair and balanced about being fair and balanced about being fair and balanced about being fair and balanced about being fair and balanced about being fair and balanced... RUPE exception. ERROR.Dec 29 01:44
MinceRthat won't accomplish anythingDec 29 01:44
DaemonFCFund bothDec 29 01:44
formic_a bit of funny logic :)Dec 29 01:44
DaemonFCEither way, they owe you taborsDec 29 01:44
DaemonFCTaborsDec 29 01:44
DaemonFCErrrrDec 29 01:44
schestowitzDaemonFC helps themDec 29 01:45
DaemonFCNoDec 29 01:45
MinceRMALFUNCTION MALFUNCTIONDec 29 01:45
schestowitzhe helped their Obamabrand{tm}Dec 29 01:45
*MinceR reboots DaemonFC Dec 29 01:45
DaemonFCIts this virtual keyboardDec 29 01:45
*schestowitz press F!Dec 29 01:45
schestowitzor DELDec 29 01:45
MinceRor ThinkVantageDec 29 01:45
schestowitzwhat do apple customers press?Dec 29 01:46
MinceRthe One ButtonDec 29 01:46
schestowitzi seem to recall long pressesDec 29 01:46
schestowitzfor special bootDec 29 01:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @Beari8it Tweeting the word 'drill' could mean your #Twitter account is read by U.S. government spies http://www.ur1.ca/71yek #BigBrotherDec 29 01:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tweeting the word 'drill' could mean your Twitter account is read by government spies  | Mail Online .::. Size~: 90.54 KBDec 29 01:46
DaemonFCCommand alt spacebarDec 29 01:46
MinceRexcept of course if there are no buttons, just a big jog dialDec 29 01:46
schestowitzwhich is Jobs' brillianceDec 29 01:46
schestowitzhe made smart devices stupidDec 29 01:46
schestowitznow stupid people can get stupid pets and stupid devicesDec 29 01:47
schestowitzlike hypePod ShuffleDec 29 01:47
DaemonFCThey had his bastard son on a game showDec 29 01:47
schestowitzLisa?Dec 29 01:47
schestowitzshe changed sex?Dec 29 01:47
DaemonFCThrowing him softball questions that anyone who paid attention in grade school could answerDec 29 01:48
schestowitzsounds like a Gates 'interview'Dec 29 01:49
schestowitzwhere Mr. Cohen preparas the answers for him and Ballmer in advanceDec 29 01:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Thanks! That looks to be quite interesting.Dec 29 01:49
schestowitzWe have Comes material to show itDec 29 01:49
schestowitzAlong with cablegateDec 29 01:49
schestowitzFake/staged interviewedDec 29 01:49
schestowitzGood for one's esteem?Dec 29 01:49
schestowitzLike Jay Leno 'interviews', but this time with less humour\Dec 29 01:50
formic_jay leno is a shillDec 29 01:51
formic_i saw his terrible bing promotionsDec 29 01:51
schestowitzWhat about Carson?Dec 29 01:51
formic_its like hes never used a computer beforeDec 29 01:51
schestowitzhe also promoted some junk foodDec 29 01:51
formic_oh leno?Dec 29 01:51
schestowitzformic_: he doesn't need toDec 29 01:51
schestowitzhe has aidesDec 29 01:51
formic_he fucking sells doritosDec 29 01:51
schestowitzdid you see Bush and Blair lean over a mouse?Dec 29 01:52
schestowitzUsually they hump other rats (politicians)Dec 29 01:52
schestowitzThis time they are asked to perform tasks with a mouseDec 29 01:52
schestowitzSo they just pose for the camera, without a tele-prompterDec 29 01:52
abeNd-orgman ie9 is being a real pita to me http://support.quickbooks.intuit.com/support/articles/SLN40318Dec 29 01:52
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DaemonFCStephen Colbert advertised Bing as wellDec 29 01:53
formic_ill be backDec 29 01:54
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schestowitzI can ownz teh Google http://disinfo.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/BushComputer.jpgDec 29 01:54
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting image/jpeg typeDec 29 01:54
schestowitzDaemonFC: paid placementsDec 29 01:54
schestowitzI think Ray William Johnson did tooDec 29 01:54
schestowitzIn  youtube he would say "bing" instead of people's namesDec 29 01:55
schestowitzBuzz marketingfDec 29 01:55
schestowitzlike the people-ready fiascoDec 29 01:55
schestowitzwhere MS paid bloggers to insert this nonsenseDec 29 01:55
schestowitzUber-Bush http://scrapetv.com/News/News Pages/Politics/pages-2/George-Bush-finds-millions-of-missing-emails-inside-his-computer-Scrape-TV-The-World-on-your-side.htmlDec 29 01:56
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 404 Not FoundDec 29 01:56
schestowitzgnDec 29 01:56
MinceR031228 <+schestowitz> In  youtube he would say "bing" instead of people's namesDec 29 02:00
MinceRlike Bing Crosby? :>Dec 29 02:00
MinceRgnDec 29 02:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] One congressman's opposition to SOPA worth noting http://identi.ca/url/63337046 !effDec 29 02:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: One congressman's opposition to SOPA worth noting - The Security Skeptic .::. Size~: 52.51 KBDec 29 02:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] 3.3 million e-mails between some of the most powerful men in the world are about to be released http://identi.ca/url/63337091 !wlDec 29 02:03
DaemonFCForbes skewered vistaDec 29 02:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 3.3 million e-mails between some of the most powerful men in the world are about to be released. Please prepare to help search through them. : WikiLeaks .::. Size~: 309.03 KBDec 29 02:03
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hemimaniacwhhy everyone blaming us??Dec 29 02:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] JBoss User and Developer Conference (JUDcon Bangalore) - Great opportunity to learn and engage - http://ur1.ca/7201b #fbDec 29 02:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] "There is no certainty, only opportunity" !q - V for VendettaDec 29 02:49
DaemonFCFor what?Dec 29 02:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Do we need a permanent calendar that is the same every year? Intriguing idea -http://henry.pha.jhu.edu/calendar.htmlDec 29 02:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Calendar Reform .::. Size~: 19.62 KBDec 29 02:54
DaemonFCSchestowitz andchat is coolDec 29 02:56
DaemonFC:)Dec 29 02:56
DaemonFCMust remember to put this on my tabletDec 29 02:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] should have done it months ago. finally got around to get TOR working on my lappy again. add FoxyProxy and we have #WINRARDec 29 03:11
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scientesi use xchatDec 29 03:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] time to get some sleep. g'night #28C3. cu in a few hours.Dec 29 03:29
DaemonFCIs there an Android port of xchat?Dec 29 03:31
DaemonFCI'm going to be selling one of my PcsDec 29 03:32
DaemonFCThe Intel one is collecting dustDec 29 03:32
DaemonFCAMD makes the only semi decent x86 Pc stuffDec 29 03:33
DaemonFCI wont be told differentDec 29 03:33
DaemonFCEvery Intel Cpu since the original pentium has been a disappointmentDec 29 03:34
DaemonFCI managed to make firefox 9 mobile and adblock plus work well on this kindleDec 29 03:35
DaemonFCRemoved operaDec 29 03:35
DaemonFCHid silkDec 29 03:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Dec 29 is #MoveYourDomain Day. Join @namecheap @gandibar @zopim & @eff in fighting for an uncensored Internet https://eff.org/r.N9a #SOPADec 29 03:36
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DaemonFCFirefox 9 mobile is coolDec 29 03:41
DaemonFCI like how it handles flash nowDec 29 03:41
DaemonFCSpawns an Android flash appDec 29 03:41
DaemonFCForwards the video to thatDec 29 03:41
DaemonFCIt lets you watch flash videos without loading any old flash crap that comes alongDec 29 03:42
DaemonFCBloatzilla should make firechrome for desktops sleek and efficient like thisDec 29 03:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RIP Mdm Yap Swee (mother of Dr Chia Thye Poh) - http://ur1.ca/721pvDec 29 03:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] trmanco: Photo “Harbourfront” by Tony Manco (@trmanco) #500px http://t.co/b1pzCL0JDec 29 03:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] trmanco: AppSumo is giving away an Amazon $100 Gift Card every year for life, if you win I win one too! http://t.co/LF0W2uXA via @appsumoDec 29 03:59
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scientesDaemonFC, HTML5 for videoDec 29 04:03
DaemonFCI consider flash to be a legacyDec 29 04:04
DaemonFCSupport is still needed for now thoughDec 29 04:04
scientesthe reason it does that is that flash for ARM is crappy, although you could actually get more with gnash and the llvm super-fast flash 11 compilerDec 29 04:04
scientesi consider it a platform for out-of-date gamesDec 29 04:04
scientessort of like DOSDec 29 04:05
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scientesyoutube still doesn't work _by default_ without flash, except with the new embedsDec 29 04:06
scientesand firefox hasn't implamented VP8, which they praised when it came out---wonder what is going on thereDec 29 04:06
scientes*VP8=WebMDec 29 04:07
DaemonFCYes they haveDec 29 04:07
DaemonFCYou can disable it at compile time. Use the built in codecs. Or have it link to the system libraries.Dec 29 04:09
scientesOHHHH, I was using 3.6Dec 29 04:15
DaemonFCThat only supports theocracyDec 29 04:15
DaemonFCBooDec 29 04:15
DaemonFCErrorDec 29 04:15
DaemonFCAutocorrectDec 29 04:15
scientesogg/theora in a ogg containerDec 29 04:15
*DaemonFC adds theoraDec 29 04:16
scientes*theora/vorbis in ogg containerDec 29 04:16
DaemonFCAutocorrect tends to do funny thingsDec 29 04:16
scientesVP8/vorbis in WebM (mkv-ish) containerDec 29 04:16
scientesi've seen alot of funny ones on thatDec 29 04:16
scientesthey are releasing VP8-based raster image formatsDec 29 04:17
scientesmaybe that mean hardware still-image decodingDec 29 04:18
DaemonFCIts relatively easy to accelerate theora or webm in gallium3dDec 29 04:19
scientesis that ATI?Dec 29 04:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz freedom is essential but abstract; for meaning it needs to be understood in such a way that one's freedom doesn't trample others'Dec 29 04:21
DaemonFCAny 3d accelerator it supportsDec 29 04:21
scientesaka its a libraryDec 29 04:21
DaemonFCBut the state tracker for vp8 isn't merged yetDec 29 04:21
scientesso *with* is more approiateDec 29 04:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz maybe his claim was misstated, and I overreacted to the mistake for not realizing what it was. but disputing it can't be straw manDec 29 04:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz the first misassumption IMHO is to assume that copyright draws a sensible line around classes of works and behaviorsDec 29 04:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz when thinking of what freedoms are essential to each class of works, I prefer to not get confused by copyright's linesDec 29 04:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz that's one reason to promote “software freedom” (for users) rather than expect “free [users] software” will be understoodDec 29 04:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz in most of the world, © law applies equally to software and other works, so a © license covers to the very same legal issues, no?Dec 29 04:28
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DaemonFChttps://www.xkcd.com/202/Dec 29 05:12
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cubezzz"it was a sound stage on mars" hahahaDec 29 05:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @parlementum too good not to steal: My resolution for 2012? 1366 x 768. #geek #humorDec 29 06:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Email is down, I've a nagging headache & am too tired to finish !InconstantMoon special feature... time for bed. G'nite !Identiverse !tzafDec 29 06:18
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DaemonFChttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/29/extreme-cheapskates-jeff-yeager-goat-head-video_n_1173901.htmlDec 29 07:15
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sebsebsebHmm http://news.techeye.net/software/techrights-group-calls-for-apple-boycottDec 29 07:59
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sebsebseboh, but maybe some of the people who come to this channel like some of the  Apple products really, heh hehDec 29 08:00
sebsebsebthat really makes it sound like the whole of Techrights said Boycott AppleDec 29 08:01
sebsebsebthe article titleDec 29 08:01
sebsebsebI like how the article calls Techrights an anti-patent campaigning group, because that's what Techrights mostly is as in Roy's blog and I think pretty much everyone who comes here,  against software patentsDec 29 08:02
sebsebseband Techbytes has episodes that are against patents as well for exampleDec 29 08:03
sebsebseboih and Techrights is mainly schestowitzDec 29 08:05
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/2Britt/statuses/152262155985625088Dec 29 08:06
TechrightsBot-tr@2Britt: Almost no #EU EC-politician is really aware of those disciplines, science and technology. As for Commissioner Barnier.. http://t.co/SZ4ZiEBGDec 29 08:06
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sebsebsebschestowitz: Is Michael who keeps on posting on the blog, the one you had on Techbytes on the Mac OS X vs Linux episode?Dec 29 08:06
sebsebsebthe one who keeps on commenting on the blog, is it them?Dec 29 08:06
schestowitzI don't read troll commentsDec 29 08:07
sebsebsebschestowitz: well he tends to disagree with you yeah, but he does make the blog more intersting with his comments as well I find :)Dec 29 08:07
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schestowitz"Can we wait for #freedombox? :p"Dec 29 08:39
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1106234Dec 29 08:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Army goes #Android http://ur1.ca/7287k #linux does the job betterDec 29 08:39
schestowitzThat would be idealDec 29 08:39
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schestowitzSJVN says Intellectual Property http://practical-tech.com/business/the-cio%e2%80%99s-nightmare-intellectual-property-lawsuits/4766/Dec 29 08:40
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DaemonFCso does the Mozilla licenseDec 29 08:43
DaemonFC:)Dec 29 08:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] U.K. Charity Preps $25-$35 PCs For Early 2012 Launch http://goo.gl/BghKa #linux #gadgetDec 29 08:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Arch, Ubuntu, and Debian Linux ported to the HP TouchPad tablet http://goo.gl/wqzUF #linux #hpDec 29 08:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Malaria researchers try open source approach to drug discovery http://goo.gl/2XiUi #collaboration is better than extreme competition?Dec 29 08:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] HP wanted $1.2 billion for WebOS and Palm assets http://is.gd/7RYSpM http://is.gd/wQOxvV #webos #linuxDec 29 08:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open Source Licensing Defuses Copyright Law’s Threat to Medicine http://goo.gl/qU3Rh #opensource #medicineDec 29 08:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Unreleased 7-inch TouchPad Go Reviewed, Deemed a Good Tablet http://goo.gl/SmMGR #linux #hpDec 29 08:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Bugs may be resistant to genetically modified corn - http://ur1.ca/728is good to see wider coverage of this #gmDec 29 08:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Group to "increase the participation of women in free and open source software...achieved little" http://is.gd/HXy9Wd CS problem, not FOSSDec 29 08:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Saying that FOSS lacks women is like saying graph theory people are mostly male (and are therefore chauvinist or whatever). Mere branches.Dec 29 08:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #28C3: New attacks on #GSM mobiles and security measures shown - http://bit.ly/vEvEbR interesting stuff, as everDec 29 09:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 5 Alternatives To Unity For Ubuntu Users [Linux] http://goo.gl/sTj5T #ubuntu #linux #unityDec 29 09:11
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/87757617Dec 29 09:13
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 29-Dec-11 09:09:19 UTC - Identi.ca: Why #Google Continues to Fund #Firefox http://ur1.ca/728rd #mozillaDec 29 09:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] GNOME 3.3.3 Heats Things Up For #GNOME 3.4 http://ur1.ca/728vk #gnu #linuxDec 29 09:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How to Get a Dock-Like Taskbar in KDE with Icon Tasks http://ur1.ca/728y3 #kdeDec 29 09:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #28C3: New attacks on #GSM mobiles and security measures shown - http://bit.ly/vEvEbR interesting stuff, as everDec 29 09:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 13 weird and wonderful niche Linux distros http://goo.gl/Ao6lK #linux #gnuDec 29 09:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Apps for #apes: Orang-utans want iPads for Christmas - http://bit.ly/uoUv6p fascinating opportunities for interspecies communicationDec 29 09:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 28C3: New attacks on GSM mobiles and security measures shown - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 43.3 KBDec 29 09:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] And the best distro of 2011 is ... http://ur1.ca/71xv3 #gnu #linuxDec 29 09:24
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/bleeters/statuses/152315416394477568Dec 29 09:32
TechrightsBot-tr@bleeters: @Asher_Wolf @schestowitz Android != LinuxDec 29 09:32
schestowitzUbuntu is not Linux, eitherDec 29 09:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] European Countries Refuse to Release Information on CIA Rendition Flights - http://bit.ly/uVZp7J shabby & shameful (v @jmcest) #tortureDec 29 09:34
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schestowitzhttp://paidcontent.co.uk/article/419-will-there-ever-be-a-universal-mp3-like-standard-for-e-books/Dec 29 09:35
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schestowitzmp3  s standard?Dec 29 09:35
schestowitzIt's a patent messDec 29 09:35
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1107026 "Cool! This answers a question that has been rumbling around in the my darker reaches. Now I'm wondering if one the Chinese knock-offs of the TouchPad might even boot one or the other flavors of Linux..."Dec 29 09:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] A video of our #28c3 #Tor talk called "How governments have tried to block Tor": https://www.youtube.com/user/28c3#p/u/8/DX46Qv_b7F4Dec 29 09:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] The slides for our #28c3 #Tor (as pdf) can be found here: https://svn.torproject.org/svn/projects/presentations/slides-28c3.pdfDec 29 09:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 29/12/2011: Linux Gains Respect From Enterprises, Approval of Army http://ur1.ca/729zgDec 29 10:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 16 Modern #China #Engineering Feats & Industrial Achievements - http://bit.ly/sbYeuk these are...rather impressiveDec 29 10:31
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I02Dwbj1E3o&feature=digest_monDec 29 10:38
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schestowitzGreat channelDec 29 10:40
schestowitzVery informativeDec 29 10:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Tors.in: Dump Your Torrents and Get a Fancy URL to Share http://goo.gl/XdhpyDec 29 10:48
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schestowitz"Thanks for the link! My personal favorite: Ubuntu Satanic Edition... :-)" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1107103Dec 29 10:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: State Governments in India Prefer Open Source Code http://ur1.ca/72asg #indiaDec 29 10:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cablegate: State Governments in India Prefer Open Source Code | Techrights .::. Size~: 97.38 KBDec 29 10:49
schestowitz"Ubuntu the best one ? Bullshit, and I stay calm :D" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1107103Dec 29 10:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] #OVER9000 OR nodes identified by the #TOR take-over team. #28C3Dec 29 10:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Copyright Office Seeks To Make It More Difficult To Retain DMCA Safe Harbors http://goo.gl/o3VvZDec 29 10:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "o..k, our method does not work with the new TOR, apparently" #FAIL #28C3 #Saal3 /also, a #TOR win :DDec 29 11:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: With Microsoft Front Group Taking on Indonesia, a Call for Open Source Software Adoption http://goo.gl/Th409 #wikileaksDec 29 11:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cablegate: With Microsoft Front Group Taking on Indonesia, a Call for Open Source Software Adoption | Techrights .::. Size~: 122.22 KBDec 29 11:11
schestowitzhttp://cablegatesearch.net/cable.php?id=09NEWDELHI2350Dec 29 11:13
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schestowitz"Dec 29 11:13
schestowitz(SBU) Econoffs met with Skype representatives who have been Dec 29 11:13
schestowitzmeeting with the GOI officials in response to the unsubstantiated Dec 29 11:13
schestowitznews report that the GOI is planning on shutting down Skype calls Dec 29 11:13
schestowitzfrom India. Skype offers free software which enables users Dec 29 11:13
schestowitzpeer-to-peer voice over internet protocol (P2P VOIP), which has Dec 29 11:13
schestowitzraised security concerns in India especially after the November 26 Dec 29 11:13
schestowitzattacks.  Skype intends to educate various officials within the Dec 29 11:13
schestowitzgovernment and dispel doubts about the service.  In upcoming weeks, Dec 29 11:13
schestowitzSkype will be developing and revising their strategy for operations Dec 29 11:13
schestowitzin India.  Econoffs offered assistance to Skype in reaching out to Dec 29 11:13
schestowitzgovernment officials. Dec 29 11:13
schestowitz"Dec 29 11:13
schestowitzDid they give back door access to Indian government auths. then?Dec 29 11:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] RT @schestowitz American Corporate Software Can No Longer Be Trusted For Anything http://goo.gl/WpfSb and he used to work for Microsoft...Dec 29 11:34
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iophkhttp://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/4225/article/imgur-to-boycott-godaddy-over-sopa-support/Dec 29 11:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: Microsoft Attacks Free/Open Source Software in Indonesian Government With ‘Piracy’ Claims http://goo.gl/ypA8y #WikileaksDec 29 11:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @shot: już za tydzień Dzień Domeny Publicznej – wpadnijcie, Paderewski 70 lat czekał na te remiksy: http://ur1.ca/72blnDec 29 11:45
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oiaohm_Pitty we cannot get actions on that.Dec 29 11:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: Examples of Indonesia Developing Free/Open Source Software http://goo.gl/j44XQ #indonesia #asia #wikileaksDec 29 11:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @csoghoian: Fascinating UK surveillance patent lawsuit reveals gear demoed to 3 German carriers, GCHQ + AU/NZ govs http://t.co/kOsd3V ...Dec 29 11:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Max Keiser and co-host Stacy Herbert present their bah-humbug special http://ur1.ca/72ccaDec 29 11:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Episode 228 — RT .::. Size~: 46.37 KBDec 29 11:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] What Google+ would have looked like in 1997, as imagined by Once Upon: http://ur1.ca/72cddDec 29 11:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] This week's CCC talks released, topics include #SpyFiles, WikiLeaks and more http://t.co/39AHPLqIDec 29 12:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] have you tried the #28C3 noodles? I did. BIG MISTAKE. do NOT try that at home, kids!Dec 29 12:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Comprehensive timeline of US vs. Manning/Assange/WikiLeaks http://t.co/LVV2AIOEDec 29 12:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] No, copyright is a hodgepodge in my book. Does not apply equally to different creations.Dec 29 12:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] but what good is software freedom if you are a "slave"? (some good, ok, but how much?)Dec 29 12:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] again, it is the people who need to be Free and not so much the works. what law takes away their freedom in this discussion?Dec 29 12:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Neo-con attack on Ron Paul for defending the 1st Amendment in relation to WikiLeaks | AIM http://t.co/I7nsoIagDec 29 12:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] I haven't assumed such a thing in way too many years. you might think it was special interest driven... ~;-)Dec 29 12:23
MinceRgeekingsDec 29 12:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] 2nd neo-con attack on Ron Paul for defending WikiLeaks right to publish http://t.co/FRn5GB4iDec 29 12:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] The "Freedom vs Liberty" thing I see some speak about?Dec 29 12:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] to researchers working on #TOR - if you get find a way, get info to @ioerror and the team first. do not just publish it on the #Internet.Dec 29 12:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Folks from MIT (home of the FSF/GNU) were said to be using "open-source software" for an "Intranet [that] would rely on http://ur1.ca/72dpmDec 29 13:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ Folks from MIT (home of the FSF/GNU) were said to be using "open-source software" for an "Intranet [that] would rely on http://ur1. ...Dec 29 13:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: #Microsoft Lobbies to Illegalise Backups and Make Copyright Violation a “Crime” http://goo.gl/mTftd #wikileaks #israelDec 29 13:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cablegate: Iraq Rebuilt With Free/Open Source Software | Techrights .::. Size~: 94.75 KBDec 29 13:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] really, that's totally sufficient to prove your point and achieve eternal glory. don't fuck-up people's lives in Iran, Syria, China, et al.Dec 29 13:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] heard @efiliol saying that ♻@Nin_99 #28c3 @ioerror has 0-day(s) for @efiliol's https://t.co/ggZKlTsa, he said he's OK with him releasing itDec 29 13:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "PERSEUS is open source technology aiming secure communication against eavesdropping except for Nation State Security offices" #LOLWUT #28C3Dec 29 13:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] why is there no #Loituma in the !memes line-up at #28C3? come on, @ccc, get your act together :PDec 29 13:29
schestowitz""Dec 29 13:35
schestowitz:hina says the newly planned protocol is "for the mandatory authorization of IT security products." Regarding the subject products, the new system will mandate foreign firms to open source code that is a design of software controlling digital appliances and other products. These products must pass a test based on their disclosed source code and must also pass a certification authority's inspection, or they cannot be marketed in China. Dec 29 13:35
schestowitzThe new system is internationally unprecedented."Dec 29 13:35
schestowitzCHina uses open source AGAINST rights of humans http://cablegatesearch.net/cable.php?id=08TOKYO2581&q=open-source%20softwareDec 29 13:35
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schestowitzhttp://cablegatesearch.net/cable.php?id=09TOKYO1813&q=open-source%20software "Dec 29 13:36
schestowitzWhile U.S. weapons are shrouded in secrecy like a "black box," BAE Dec 29 13:36
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schestowitzSystems takes pride in "open source." Dec 29 13:36
schestowitz"Dec 29 13:36
schestowitz"such as the open-source application BitTorrent"Dec 29 13:38
schestowitzHeheDec 29 13:38
schestowitzThey think it's an appDec 29 13:38
schestowitzcontext: "such as the open-source application BitTorrent, that facilitate the direct distribution of pirated audio and video over the internet, private industry representatives from Almaty have noted the launch of several internet delivery services there. "Dec 29 13:38
schestowitzhttp://cablegatesearch.net/cable.php?id=09ASTANA481&q=open-source%20softwareDec 29 13:38
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oiaohmschestowitz: Nice to see those screaming about that.Dec 29 13:39
oiaohmschestowitz: if china does force open source that kinda can leave companies like MS screwed.Dec 29 13:39
MinceRis the PRC's requirement really to license code under an open source license or just to disclose it to their authorities?Dec 29 13:42
DaemonFCthe main reason they care is because they're a member of organizations like WIPO nowDec 29 13:45
oiaohmMinceR: Mostly because they don't want hidden back doors in there systems.Dec 29 13:47
MinceRsure, but this would reflect a misunderstanding of what "open source" isDec 29 13:47
oiaohmMinceR: No it does not.Dec 29 13:47
oiaohmChina knows exactly what open source is.Dec 29 13:48
MinceRperhaps the person who wrote that cable didn'tDec 29 13:48
oiaohmYes they really do want as many people as possible to be able to look at the code and attempt to find holes.Dec 29 13:48
MinceRi hope they doDec 29 13:48
DaemonFCthe government can still force everyone to use binary distributions of the softwareDec 29 13:49
DaemonFCcontrolled by themDec 29 13:49
DaemonFCafter it's compiled, who knows what's in it?Dec 29 13:49
oiaohmDaemonFC: exactly with there own extentions on top of a flawless base.Dec 29 13:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Verizon Adds $2 Charge For Paying Your Bill Online http://goo.gl/1IzgeDec 29 13:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Why Does The Recording Industry Complain When It's Often Its Own Worst Enemy? http://goo.gl/uMVV0Dec 29 13:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] I am lost for words ♻ @evgenymorozov: "Man killed by train can be held liable for injuries to bystander" ur1.ca/72fbnDec 29 14:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @bramalab: Jesteśmy na #28C3 ur1.ca/72f8x | yes, we're at #28C3 ur1.ca/72f96Dec 29 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] so. what's with the "Phenoelit Party"? #28C3?Dec 29 14:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] New poll: Open*Health 2011 best images | red.ht/tHfaWV #flickrDec 29 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Making A Pocket Burner - #bushcraft #preppers http://goo.gl/X9KFwDec 29 14:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Best !Android Games of 2011 - Phone Mantra http://ping.fm/GB26QDec 29 14:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Best Android Games of 2011  — Phone Mantra .::. Size~: 31.97 KBDec 29 14:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Chávez questiona se EUA provocaram cancro nos líderes sul-americanos - JN - #xfiles "...pero que las hay las hay" http://goo.gl/pjHzmDec 29 14:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @forteller: Has anyone written an article on why Apple (or other DRM-friendly, closed corpos) is bad for you and society, for non-geeks?Dec 29 14:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Amazing zoomable picture of galaxies captured by the Hubble - http://ur1.ca/72fyh #fbDec 29 14:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: HubbleSite - NewsCenter - Hubble's Deepest View Ever of the Universe Unveils Earliest Galaxies (03/09/2004) - Release Images .::. Size~: 13.13 KBDec 29 14:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] BAD NEWS ♻ @Asher_Wolf: RT @ThePunkbob: @telecomix freedomhouse raided in Egypt, phones and server passwords seized.Dec 29 14:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] LibreCAD 1.0.0 released, v2 in works http://ping.fm/RHXPqDec 29 14:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] okay, I've got 5 @telecomix t-shirts in ma backpack and one on me, and I am not afraid to use them! :P #28C3Dec 29 14:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Good Uncle Stal... Putin rys.io/en/52 | Dobry Wujek Stal... Putin rys.io/pl/52Dec 29 14:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Deprecated Linux networking commands and their replacements http://ur1.ca/72g79... http://b1t.it/akZEDec 29 14:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Good to know: Etherpad lite now has mobile UI and works on iOS 5 devices too. http://etherpad.org/Dec 29 15:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Syria. Britain and the USA can't put up with protesters with tents, what do you think would have happened if they were armed? #LybiaDec 29 15:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @doctorow: Successful stylometry fingerprinting technique: checking for habitual synonym choices #28C3Dec 29 15:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] So many adult programmes are not that different from children's programmes.Dec 29 15:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] Vote for Nokia !N9 in Nokia Community Awards 2011 → http://ur1.ca/72h7m !meegoDec 29 15:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] I sure hope @ioerror is at the "Deceiving Authorship Detection" talk. really bright people, really interesting subject.Dec 29 15:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] it definitely is. ♻ @kaerast: Starting to watch the #28c3 videos - A Brief History of Plutocracy is worth watching. 28c3.chaoscdn.deDec 29 15:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Where are my manners? !Tzag Identizens.Dec 29 15:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I am looking forward to Windows 8 as I am sure it will be the biggest leap forward ever for comp users!Dec 29 16:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 16 Modern #China #Engineering Feats & Industrial Achievements - http://bit.ly/sbYeuk these are...rather impressiveDec 29 16:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Cablegate: Microsoft Attacks Free/Open Source Software in Indonesian Government, Breaks 1999 Monopolies Law - http://bit.ly/ubKYsvDec 29 16:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] All the soldiers killed in Afghanistan as a result of their government's foreign policy have been described by a spokesperson as dead.Dec 29 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open*Health: 2011 in review by @lorimehen | red.ht/tqVstuDec 29 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Organic Groups on #Drupal 7 ain't that intuitive http://goo.gl/hQkuL props to Brian for his tutorial screencasts on it #ModulesUnraveledDec 29 16:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Cheers @Gomerx and now known by me.Dec 29 16:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Compassion of Dr. #RonPaul - YouTube http://ur1.ca/72hn3Dec 29 16:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] Kim Jong-Il, Kim Jong-un, Kim Jong-zero, Kim Jong-fogo?Dec 29 16:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The USA remake of the 'The Midwich Cuckoos' had at it's centre the defence industry implications. It happens so often for what film reason?Dec 29 16:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Wasn't me, God my witness! ♻ @evgenymorozov: "Anonymous" hacking attack on Polish Catholic order http://t.co/lONZBlFC !atheismDec 29 16:26
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schestowitz[13:39] <oiaohm> schestowitz: if china does force open source that kinda can leave companies like MS screwed.Dec 29 16:28
schestowitzIt ju8st means open source to the govt.Dec 29 16:28
schestowitzSo MS shows the govt only the sourceDec 29 16:28
schestowitz[13:49] <DaemonFC> after it's compiled, who knows what's in it?Dec 29 16:29
schestowitzExactly, I heard their Linux distros that are enforced have back doorsDec 29 16:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz how so? aren't the restrictions imposed by © law, that require © licenses to be lifted, the same for all kinds of works?Dec 29 16:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz err... when we speak of software freedoms, we're speaking of *users*'s freedoms. artists/musicians are analogous to sw vendorsDec 29 16:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @Rysiek on a smaller scale without the aid of technology I told the latest Christian fairy tail provider to please go away.Dec 29 16:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz when I speak of essential freedoms, I'm speaking of freedoms necessary to not be/become a slave. sw freedom is one of manyDec 29 16:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz right, it's for people to be free that some freedoms are essential, but what are these freedoms? many laws take away sw freedomsDec 29 16:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz good. then how about we keep copyright out of the discussion of what freedoms are essential for sw and other cultural works?Dec 29 16:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @Rysiek You are looking a bit green while this is Parkhead beautiful it ain't doing a thing for you.Dec 29 16:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] no they are not. some works don't get protected by copyright. some get protection but are treated differently. right?Dec 29 16:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 638 Ways to Kill Castro - http://ur1.ca/72hz9 ; yup...Chavez might be right! http://goo.gl/oCJ9CDec 29 16:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] copyright laws take away not just freedom wrt software but freedom of people in other areas too.Dec 29 16:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz I never understood that distinction. it probably doesn't help that there's only one word for freedom and liberty in PortugueseDec 29 16:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] and doesn't putting the equivalent of an ND on a work deny those freedoms?Dec 29 16:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz I was getting at the notion that © places power on authors to trample users' freedoms, and some authors regard that power as freedomDec 29 16:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] I never really did either but some have freedom unlimited while liberty is limited by the same liberty for others. iiucDec 29 16:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Oh yes I would travel and pay to see the Stone Roses live. Happy they are performing live again.Dec 29 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz but in reality some notion of freedom is needed for cultural works so that authors' and users' freedoms don't conflict (no overlap)Dec 29 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] we people need to be free. to do what we like. with what we have in our possession and more importantly in our minds.Dec 29 16:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz AFAIK all works of authorship are equally subject (projected? from what?!?) to copyright: same restrictions, same lengthDec 29 16:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Gillard gov again advertises its submissiveness to the US. The country has no connection to the Stratfor hack. Absurd. http://t.co/rbE6zPYKDec 29 16:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] what limits on this freedom are ***essential*** to society?Dec 29 16:51
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1107054Dec 29 16:51
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schestowitz"Elucidate ?"Dec 29 16:51
schestowitzThere is a known issue where women are discouraged from participating in computer science. Some FOSS trolls try to paint that as a FOSS issue when in fact it's just a branch of Computer Science.Dec 29 16:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz the only exception I know of is software in Brazil: different law, different length, with more restrictions for users and authorsDec 29 16:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Note is Creating #Phablet Market, Says #Samsung - http://dthin.gs/rPPdx8 significant, if confirmedDec 29 16:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] it is hard not to discuss copyright in the areas that copyright covers though as jail is involved.Dec 29 16:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz sorry about this re-reply to an old post, accidental scrolling got me confusedDec 29 16:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] many artists make art to satisfy themselves and not for others. they would not be commissioned programmers. not sw vendors either.Dec 29 16:54
schestowitz"Ubuntu took the first place?? Bullshit dedoimedo.com!!" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1107107Dec 29 16:56
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schestowitzproving the point of the authorDec 29 16:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz nod; no dispute that copyright law takes freedom away from users of several kinds of creative worksDec 29 16:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz the dispute is on whether ND affects users' *essential* freedoms over e.g. purely artistic worksDec 29 16:56
schestowitzpeople hate ubuntu if they don't use ubuntuDec 29 16:56
schestowitz"Well, it comes to no surprise that Dedoimedo has a "special" taste. His articles still are a joy to read, though."Dec 29 16:56
schestowitz"Why does he rag on Arch Linux? It works way better than the *buntus in my experience. Also, rolling release is the only way to go for a usable, up to date system..."Dec 29 16:56
schestowitz"He only says it's the "least friendly" distro, besides Gentoo. Many users define "friendly" as "having stuff done for me". Believe it or not, many people use computers without really knowing what they are doing. Installing Arch Linux requires that you already know quite a bit about operating systems. That said, there are "friendly" derivatives of Arch Linux like Kahel OS."Dec 29 16:56
schestowitz"Thinking about it I am not surprised that Ubutnu came top, as much as I like mint, I am currently running 11 and staying away from 12 (Bit of a dev release at the mo I think) Will definitely try 13 though!!"Dec 29 16:57
schestowitz"Dec 29 16:57
schestowitzOr for that matter why does he rag on Gentoo - if put together well then it works nicely (posting this from my Sabayon box).Dec 29 16:57
schestowitzBut Ubuntu is making linux more 'acceptable' to the world in general, and that may be a good thing if you don't want it to be an exclusive community of those in the know. Don't forget most people have no idea what to do with a terminal or why you have to unmount a DVD before it can be ejected.Dec 29 16:57
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schestowitz"Dec 29 16:57
schestowitzthe "best" one distro is the one that let you do your job in time and without problemsDec 29 16:57
schestowitzmy choice is GentooDec 29 16:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz IOW, the dispute is on whether the ability to modify e.g. purely artistic works is an essential freedomDec 29 16:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] I agree, and that power is used outside of the software realm as well as in it.Dec 29 16:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] State of Adversarial #Stylometry: can you change your prose-style? - http://bit.ly/sZg3TZ what a great name: #AnonymouthDec 29 16:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz for software and other works that perform practical jobs, ND becomes an ethical problem for such works impose behaviorDec 29 16:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz but when it comes to purely aesthetic works, ND takes away options, for sure, but not control over one's own futureDec 29 16:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] and the answer is yes it does and you can go to jail if you don't play along. if that freedom is not essential to you then... I don't know..Dec 29 16:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] I see this distinction as a lack of respect for art and culture. A minimizing of their importance.Dec 29 17:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz eek, I need to get some sleep. I meant to type “protected”, not “projected”, to challenge the notion of copyright “protection”Dec 29 17:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz to do what we like as long as that doesn't get in the way of others' doing what they like that doesn't get in ours etc ;-)Dec 29 17:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz for example, I might support restrains on misrepresentation of factual informationDec 29 17:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] http://ur1.ca/72ie4Dec 29 17:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] might be nice if we could ever agree on the *facts*...Dec 29 17:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] which brings us back to the distinction that some make between liberty and freedom.Dec 29 17:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @Rysiek You are right. Punctuation helps. Get a less green avi. Up the Bhoys!Dec 29 17:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Modern Darknets - http://bit.ly/vGIHIR our future, courtesy of #SOPA and its inevitable descendants #censorship #surveillance #resilienceDec 29 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz but the question is what's morally/ethically wrong in curtailing the ability to make derivative works of purely aesthetic worksDec 29 17:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz I agree it's desirable and I believe socially positive to be able to do so (which is why I'm a © abolitionist), however... (cont)Dec 29 17:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz (cont'd) ... I regard it as a better/worse issue, not right/wrong or good/evil, whereas for sw and functional works it's right/wrongDec 29 17:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] US Mainstream Media Refuses Op-Ed About TSA Eroding Civil Liberties... But Pravda Publishes It - http://bit.ly/tVQxf6 straws in the wind...Dec 29 17:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz this is disrespect in the same sense that claiming a certain medicine works better on asians or africans is racism ;-)Dec 29 17:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz realizing that there may be material differences that may bring about practical consequences is not disrespectfulDec 29 17:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] for one thing, the control apparatus needed to enforce the restriction.Dec 29 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz “I authored this article”, and “product X is manufactured and sold by company Y” are facts, and laws prohibit misrepresentationDec 29 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] for another, the belief that you should control what goes into and then what comes out of another person's head/mind. subconscious violationDec 29 17:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Wi-Fi Protected Setup made easier to brute force - The H Open Source - #security #wps http://goo.gl/gkPsS #reaverwps http://goo.gl/6EmyUDec 29 17:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz it should be a civil matter, like contract law, not a criminal matter, for sureDec 29 17:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz I don't see how ND controls people's I/O (so to speak). it may require more effort for output, but that's about itDec 29 17:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz I like to liken respect for others' freedom with “not blocking their way”, rather than “giving them a ride”Dec 29 17:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz in this sense, ND doesn't prevent the communication of an idea, it just refuses to give a rideDec 29 17:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Guest Post: A Run On The Global Banking System - How Close Are We? | ZeroHedge - #bankingsystem #collapse http://goo.gl/DJXbiDec 29 17:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #HTC Unlocks Bootloader For All of Its Devices http://goo.gl/reuJ9 #excellentDec 29 17:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] World's Worst PR Guy Gives His Side http://goo.gl/06nrt - painting himself as a victim & digging an even bigger hole #OceanMarkettingDec 29 17:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] US Mainstream Media Refuses Op-Ed About TSA Eroding Civil Liberties... But Pravda Publishes It - http://bit.ly/tVQxf6 straws in the wind...Dec 29 17:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @Maiimouna: Didn't find any #makerbots at #28c3. Seriously, where do you hide?Dec 29 17:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Phew! Look up Little Shop of Horrors and !capitalism.Dec 29 17:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] As #GoDaddy Deals With #SOPA Fallout, Hollywood Wants To Punish GoDaddy For Enabling Infringement - http://bit.ly/uj7b3y well, yesDec 29 17:53
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tessierChina is too corrupt to force anything. MS will pay someone off and things will continue as they are, even if it is not in the best interests of the country.Dec 29 17:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The P2PU Review of 2011 - http://bit.ly/ue2Tvc promising project #educationDec 29 18:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] http://ur1.ca/72jjo look for the word: subconsciousDec 29 18:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] people in one field, claiming something is essential themselves but not for those in another field does not smell right.Dec 29 18:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] does apple make and sell the ipad? are you sure that your subconscious did not slip in a phrase or two from someone else in your article?Dec 29 18:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] #ThankGNU for Scott Boughton, Eben Moglen, Anthony J. Stieber -- http://ur1.ca/6v57o Join the !FSF today: http://fsf.org/jfb !gnu !lpDec 29 18:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] perhaps it should be but it is not. and according to proponents it is unworkable even in this drastic form and needs to be made more so.Dec 29 18:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] #ThankGNU for hiroo yamagata, James A Cole, Thomas H. Puckett -- http://ur1.ca/6v57o Join the !FSF today: http://fsf.org/jfb !gnu !lpDec 29 18:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] The meek shall inherit the Earth, or something ur1.ca/72jq6 !atheismDec 29 18:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @Rysiek That goes on regularly.Dec 29 18:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @jpope: A quick little !statusnet plugin to add the ‘Stop Censorship’ banner to your SN logo. http://url.jpope.org/8z !feds !vivalafederatDec 29 18:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Are You Being Tracked? 8 Ways Your Privacy Is Being Eroded Online and Off, http://ur1.ca/72kcqDec 29 18:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Tanfoglio_ is er daar nog wat plaats aan uw bureau? ;)Dec 29 18:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp Toont uw nieuwe twitter-client DM's? Of moet ik je hier even wijzen op een DM? ;)Dec 29 18:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp heb je het over mijn scriptie? #oopsDec 29 18:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp ahja nee, hierover ;) #hoefDec 29 18:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp DM :)Dec 29 18:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @dropje haha, een mens zou er stil van worden :DDec 29 18:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @hannesvdvreken idem bij mijn mama! De koningin! #spoilerDec 29 18:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @b_b_b_a_r_t: de eerste #thedatatank implementatie door een externe partij is een feit. driewerf hoe http://ur1. ...Dec 29 18:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Choisissez een duikboot!Dec 29 18:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Miel_vds amai, jij kunt nogal verwarren ;) - dit is van @QKaiserDec 29 18:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @Waza_Be: Having train schedules on your watch is close for Belgium! #sncb @WIMMLabs @iRail Hope I c http://ur1. ...Dec 29 18:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @b_b_b_a_r_t: volgende week vrijdag, 6 januari: Virtueel Team Management – seminarie bij http://ur http://ur1.ca ...Dec 29 18:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Tuinslak WHEN U BACK?Dec 29 18:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @hannesvdvreken @Choisissez ik zeg "mamíta" #likeaboss #truestoryDec 29 18:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Zhann http://t.co/4UglqbXeDec 29 18:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @hannesvdvreken @Choisissez "moeder" vind ik enkel passend met "uw" ervoor.Dec 29 18:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @jindrichmynarz @4store interesting! @Miel_vds - do we use @4store @MMLab_UGent ?Dec 29 18:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @hannesvdvreken @Choisissez niet teveel in eens.Dec 29 18:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @stefroelandt @b_b_b_a_r_t mensen van BeRoads hé. @QKaiser - een student :)Dec 29 18:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Choisissez en het recept op njamnjam zetten. Stap voor stap.Dec 29 18:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz citing small portions (consciously or not) isn't restricted by copyright laws I'm familiar withDec 29 18:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] How NOT to do PR and customer care: ur1.ca/72kup #fail !lolDec 29 18:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz apple designs and sells, but doesn't manufacture the ipad. maybe I should've written “or” instead of “and” to allude to TM?Dec 29 18:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz and this is the crux of the matter, indeed. what AFAICT many people from free culture (and even free software) miss is that...Dec 29 18:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz ... the foundation of the Free Software Movement is not the four freedoms, but user's control of her own computingDec 29 18:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz the four freedoms are essential for users to retain control, and to cooperate to that endDec 29 19:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz the lack of any of the four freedoms means the user doesn't control the software, but rather that the software controls the userDec 29 19:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] read the article and the story behind "This Song" http://ur1.ca/72l1j if it is not like that for you yet, wait a bit.Dec 29 19:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz the ethical judgement is that it's wrong to control others through the software they use, thus only free software is ethicalDec 29 19:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz the goal is to eliminate unethical, user-subjugating software; users can only control their computations if all sw they use is freeDec 29 19:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz and by free I mean respecting the four freedoms, essential for users to retain their autonomy and to cooperate to that endDec 29 19:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The P2PU Review of 2011 - http://bit.ly/ue2Tvc promising project #educationDec 29 19:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] What do you call things that happen and NATO media do not like...Not news.Dec 29 19:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz within this rationale, software is a means to perform computations, and the 4 sw freedoms are means to retain control over computingDec 29 19:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #HTC Unlocks Bootloader For All of Its Devices - Slashdot - #mobile http://goo.gl/L2ROSDec 29 19:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz back to your issue, a fundamental distinction is that user autonomy is individual, whereas culture is sharedDec 29 19:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @ovigia #HTC Unlocks Bootloader For All of Its Devices - Slashdot - #mobile http://ur1.ca/72l9nDec 29 19:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz however, I don't see in any free culture definition a rationale for the 4 freedoms as means to individual users' endsDec 29 19:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz this lack of a similar rationale is what makes the adoption of the 4 sw freedoms by free culture movements unjustified to meDec 29 19:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] not saying you can't make an argument for sw freedom that doesn't apply to non-sw. leave it there. don't imply freedom unnecessary 4 non-swDec 29 19:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Uncharacteristically early night !Tzag Identizens.Dec 29 19:18
DaemonFCMy tablet cameDec 29 19:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz I don't imply that. I just believe different “freedoms” *may* be essential to retain user's freedomDec 29 19:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz because another fundamental distinction is that software controls computation processes, thus users, whereas aesthetic works don'tDec 29 19:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] saying ND (etc.) is OK for non-code does that in my view.Dec 29 19:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz so the question “what's required of an aesthetic work to respect freedom?” may have answers other than “the 4 software freedoms”Dec 29 19:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz BTW, I'm not trying to “make an argument”, I'm describing the rationale (as I understand it) for the free software definitionDec 29 19:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz and I believe this rationale was missed (disregarded? not known of?) when the free culture definitions I'm aware of were introducedDec 29 19:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 15 Percent of US File-Sharers Hide Their IP-Address, More to Folllow - http://bit.ly/sUat1j oh yes... #surveillanceDec 29 19:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 15 Percent of US File-Sharers Hide Their IP-Address, More to Folllow | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 29.82 KBDec 29 19:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz yeah, yet another reason why © needs to die. it didn't even extend to derivative works at first!Dec 29 19:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "Freedom is in Peril" A sister to the more famous “Don’t Panic Carry on” World War II poster - http://bit.ly/uBGhg9 we're going to need itDec 29 19:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz I hope I didn't say that. I meant it's not clear to me that ND is unethical/evil for all kinds of worksDec 29 19:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Freedom is in Peril A sister to the more famous “Don’t Panic Carry on” World War II poster, this … | edparsons.com .::. Size~: 14.58 KBDec 29 19:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] are all #TGV interviewers so sycophantic or just this jackass? http://goo.gl/eHMQv #OceanMarkettingDec 29 19:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Interview with Paul Christoforo, formerly of Ocean Marketing  | The Gaming Vault .::. Size~: 150.8 KBDec 29 19:34
prurigrohey allDec 29 19:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz I haven't seen reason to regard sw freedom 1 (and 3) over non-sw as essential for users to retain control over their livesDec 29 19:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Young people who protest against the pressure on independent journalists, gag statues, sculptures &tc.: http://www.ur1.ca/72m2n #freespeechDec 29 19:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: (translated) Young people who protested against... - Quietniss .::. Size~: 38.64 KBDec 29 19:38
*prurigro gives voice to Diablo-D3Dec 29 19:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @mdim @ovruni it's a pity that essays at gnu.org about free software are not free themselves.Dec 29 19:41
DaemonFCAt&t now has a 150 gb capDec 29 19:41
DaemonFCIf you go over its $10 per 50 gbDec 29 19:42
prurigrodear lordDec 29 19:42
prurigroI'm so glad that didn't get passed in CanadaDec 29 19:43
DaemonFCGuess I won't ever be using a browser without ad blockingDec 29 19:44
DaemonFCI'd have the luck to have someones flash ads put me over the topDec 29 19:45
prurigrolol, another ISP isn't an option?Dec 29 19:45
DaemonFCNot immediatelyDec 29 19:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] surely the poetic justice response to a PR scumbag like Paul, would be for the entire tech press to refuse to mention him, or his productsDec 29 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Lamar Smith, Against Regulating Net... Until Hollywood Became His Biggest Campaign Funder - http://bit.ly/u69Lrj ethics? what are they?Dec 29 19:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the goal of PR is to be talked about positively - if the entire online tech world blank him, he is limited to his own sites to promoteDec 29 19:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lamar Smith, Against Regulating The Internet... Until Hollywood Became His Biggest Campaign Funder | Techdirt .::. Size~: 43.92 KBDec 29 19:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] pic of the week: Fireplace in the Painted Hall - http://bit.ly/rMDN6P magic #london #pixDec 29 19:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is gomerx from http://ur1.ca/6as77 with 140 dents!Dec 29 19:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Thanks to the city of #Gummersbach for the nice usage of #pdfreaders text and logo on http://ur1.ca/72n9a !fsfe !gnu !fsDec 29 20:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @parlementum @lxoliva art and writing ARE software for humans.Dec 29 20:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] RT @kirschner Thanks to the city of #Gummersbach for the nice usage of #pdfreaders text and logo on http://ur1.ca/72n9a !fsfe !gnu !fsDec 29 20:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] For those few who think otherwise. Remember, politicians everywhere are the same http://ur1.ca/72ndj... http://b1t.it/ak89Dec 29 20:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] While waiting for more donations for !fsfe I personally set up my monthly donation to #abgeordnetenwatch @a_watchDec 29 20:38
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/zoobab/statuses/152398149841989632Dec 29 20:41
TechrightsBot-tr@zoobab: @m8ttyb Because Javascript is a mess, and coders have to "adapt" their code to each of those. A giant failure.Dec 29 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Helping undo the reality distortion field, post by post. Certainly makes you laugh at the blatant hypocrisy http://ur1.ca/699euDec 29 20:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Reactions to Gruber .::. Size~: 104.58 KBDec 29 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Why do you have to decode the data? I myself have used lots of software but never had to decode anything. Long as I pay & upgrade its fine.Dec 29 20:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Check out Paul Stacey's excellent blog post "2011 The Year of Open" - http://goo.gl/jop4m #OER #opengovDec 29 20:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 2011 The Year of Open « Paul Stacey .::. Size~: 91.01 KBDec 29 20:48
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schestowitzDiablo-D3: which tablet?Dec 29 20:53
schestowitzdaemonFC i meantDec 29 20:53
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/zoobab/statuses/152399507664019457Dec 29 20:54
TechrightsBot-tr@zoobab: UK: The Patent for an engineer with the hardware and software skills necessary to build and operate a virtual BTS http://t.co/2ULgak9JDec 29 20:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] It thinks that your words are owned by someone else before you even speak them?Dec 29 20:54
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FFII/statuses/152419405203128323Dec 29 20:55
TechrightsBot-tr@FFII: Let's try to imagine ACTA naked...Dec 29 20:55
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1107098 "Care to elaborate or is google my 'friend'?"Dec 29 21:00
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schestowitzKeyboard shortcuts are the fastest thing, not bloated eitherDec 29 21:01
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1107054 "Ah, I thought that is what you meant, but I wanted to check, thank you! And yes, I agree with you."Dec 29 21:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "Militarisation of Cyberspace in order to bring cyber-safety is like bombing cities to provide physical safety" #28C3 #Saal2Dec 29 21:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Pinoy Linux flavor stirs ripple in OS community http://goo.gl/sgrF9 #gnu #linuxDec 29 21:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Pinoy Linux flavor stirs ripple in OS community | GMA News Online | The Go-To Site for Filipinos Everywhere .::. Size~: 17.87 KBDec 29 21:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Obama Nominates Carlyle Group Partner to The Federal Reserve|COLLAPSENET #fed #globalkleptocracy http://goo.gl/CHT9v http://goo.gl/ivWzLDec 29 21:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] On the other hand, as an artist it does not harm me to advocate for free software along with free culture, both of which are beneficial...Dec 29 21:14
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Activist Post: Obama Nominates Carlyle Group Partner to The Federal Reserve .::. Size~: 214.47 KBDec 29 21:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What's in a Name? In the Linux World, Much Silliness http://goo.gl/BQCHp #linux #kernelDec 29 21:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] #Plutocracy is a huge word here at #28C3. And with good reason.Dec 29 21:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What's in a Name? In the Linux World, Much Silliness | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 86.56 KBDec 29 21:18
DaemonFCThis program has voice recognitionDec 29 21:20
DaemonFCI am speaking to right nowDec 29 21:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #SOPA is losing steam, Internet censorship may not become law | COLLAPSENET http://goo.gl/05Nd8Dec 29 21:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "The Democracy Cyborg is at work. It's active. All over the world." #28C3 #Saal2Dec 29 21:21
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DaemonFCSomething muted the micDec 29 21:21
DaemonFCSighDec 29 21:21
DaemonFCIt is no wonder that microsoft gave up on thisDec 29 21:22
DaemonFCAnd it is working againDec 29 21:22
DaemonFCThis is kind of funDec 29 21:23
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DaemonFCI can see why apple is afraidDec 29 21:25
DaemonFCThis is nicer than an Ipad which costs twice as muchDec 29 21:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] WE NEED MESH NETWORKS NOW #28C3Dec 29 21:29
schestowitzwhat tablet?Dec 29 21:33
DaemonFCArchos g9Dec 29 21:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Occupy protester banned from flight home for #Christmas http://www.ur1.ca/72plg #OWSDec 29 21:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Occupy protester banned from flight home for Christmas | The Raw Story .::. Size~: 56.65 KBDec 29 21:39
schestowitzOh, ya, you told meDec 29 21:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] An Esoteric and Extraterrestrial History of World War II // Brainsturbator - #wwii #tptb http://goo.gl/EKp4ODec 29 21:51
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schestowitzhttp://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/12/bill-black-what-if-the-sec-investigated-banks-the-way-it-is-investigating-mutual-funds.htmlDec 29 21:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bill Black: What if the SEC investigated Banks the way it is investigating Mutual Funds? «  naked capitalism .::. Size~: 103.34 KBDec 29 21:53
schestowitzHehDec 29 21:53
schestowitzDaemonFC: how do you use a tablet in everyday fashion?Dec 29 21:54
schestowitzIIRC you spend most time at homeDec 29 21:54
DaemonFCMostly, yeahDec 29 21:54
DaemonFCIts a nice toy thoughDec 29 21:55
DaemonFCDefinitely better for the electric bill than an x86 PCDec 29 21:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] FOSS meet moots new domain for free software in climate change mitigation http://goo.gl/VK50V #india #climate #freedomDec 29 22:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @yareckon Don't think that Egypt security should be raiding them, but it's laughable to call NDI/IRI NGOs. They are lobbying/politic ...Dec 29 22:01
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schestowitz"Nice link. I <3 #CyanogenMod. Made my phone a million times better."Dec 29 22:05
schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1109520Dec 29 22:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Android for Dummies: Make your own build of CyanogenMod http://goo.gl/PAS8k liberating #android with #CyanogenModDec 29 22:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Android for Dummies: Make your own build of CyanogenMod | ExtremeTech .::. Size~: 42.55 KBDec 29 22:06
DaemonFCOnce you're used to it it is fairly intuitiveDec 29 22:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "In a recent survey, only 7% of one group of organizations had completed a migration to [VIsta] “7″." http://goo.gl/mG1nL #microsoftDec 29 22:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: One of the Nails in M$’s Coffin at  Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 44.53 KBDec 29 22:09
schestowitzDaemonFC: did you consider putting CyanogenMod on it?Dec 29 22:13
DaemonFCIt is not listed as compatibleDec 29 22:14
schestowitzSpasiva.. http://www.iphones.ru/iNotes/191490Dec 29 22:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Techrights призывает бойкотировать Apple .::. Size~: 32 KBDec 29 22:22
schestowitzDaemonFC: maybe be the firstDec 29 22:22
MinceRit's a pity the g9-s don't dualboot to Angstrom by defaultDec 29 22:25
MinceRlike the "internet tablet"s doDec 29 22:25
schestowitzPerhaps the n9 could have it it were not for the MS moleDec 29 22:25
schestowitzcould havem would have...Dec 29 22:26
MinceRi mean archos 80 g9 and archos 101 g9Dec 29 22:28
schestowitzSuch poor utilisation f disk spaceDec 29 22:29
schestowitzThey could fill it up with lots of good stuff like foss and creative commons mediaDec 29 22:29
schestowitzimagine: videos, music, apps in abundance. MS, Apple, and the MAFIAA would not approve such abundance..Dec 29 22:29
MinceRi don't know what you're talking aboutDec 29 22:30
schestowitzSelling machines preloaded with goodiesDec 29 22:31
schestowitzIt they have large disks for exampleDec 29 22:31
schestowitzYou could sell perfectly legally a machine with like 100,000 songs on itDec 29 22:31
schestowitzdepending on the songs' licenceDec 29 22:31
MinceRand where would i put them while i play something else on the device? :>Dec 29 22:31
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schestowitzthey're on the magnetic tapeDec 29 22:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "drastic as closing specific ministries and switching to open source software." http://is.gd/yEXc7J DRASTIC? Reallu?Dec 29 22:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Namecheap to Double Donation to !EFF if 25,000 Transfers Are Made Today http://identi.ca/url/63403629Dec 29 22:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Breaking: Namecheap to Double Donation to EFF if 25,000 Transfers Are Made Today | Elliot's Blog .::. Size~: 26.78 KBDec 29 22:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 'Closing the knowledge gap': why Google wants #Android to be open - http://bit.ly/uief0n spot on and well put #opennessDec 29 22:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 'Closing the knowledge gap': why Google wants Android to be open | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 118.34 KBDec 29 22:58
formic_Yo yoDec 29 22:59
MinceRyoyoDec 29 23:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] So sorry to hear. #sadDec 29 23:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "Linode does not prohibit the use of distributed, peer to peer network services such as Tor [...]" - #justsayinDec 29 23:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Breaking news: appeals court revives Jewel v NSA, EFF's challenge to government's massive spying program https://eff.org/r.N7bDec 29 23:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Appeals Court Revives EFF's Challenge to Government's Massive Spying Program | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 22.37 KBDec 29 23:08
schestowitzhttp://cablegatesearch.net/cable.php?id=08MOSCOW1723&q=free-softwareDec 29 23:09
schestowitz"¶5. (SBU) Yevgeniy Bakhin, Marketing Director of Russian software company Askon, while acknowledging Russian law enforcement efforts in combating piracy, noted that the IPR focus in Russia is overwhelmingly on punishment and argued that more positive incentives are needed to reward the use of legitimate products. He highlighted his company's marketing campaigns that demonstrate to consumers the economic benefits of using legitimate Dec 29 23:09
schestowitzsoftware - quality assurance, access to company's support services, and clear pricing. According to Bakhin, a particularly useful step his company has taken is providing schools with free software, so that young students get used to legal versions of the company's products and therefore have more inclination to continue to use legitimate software and the company's services as they grow into consumers."Dec 29 23:09
schestowitzMinceR: wordDec 29 23:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] WTF is #SOPA ? aka The US Government Trying to Ruin the Internet (video) | The Vigilant Citizen #vc #usa #policestate http://goo.gl/Lwsq4Dec 29 23:10
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MinceRschestowitz: http://pigroll.com/img/word.jpgDec 29 23:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Street Cams Can Now Tag, Track and Follow Individuals (video) | The Vigilant Citizen - #uk #cctv #policestate http://goo.gl/PZJaVDec 29 23:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Street Cams Can Now Tag, Track and Follow Individuals (video) | The Vigilant Citizen .::. Size~: 111.6 KBDec 29 23:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] RT @eff Breaking news: appeals court revives Jewel v NSA, EFF's challenge to government's massive spying program https://eff.org/r.N7bDec 29 23:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Hmm. Things seem kinda sluggish on identi.ca. I'll take a look at what's going on. Nagios shows all services green, so not sure what's up.Dec 29 23:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Appeals Court Revives EFF's Challenge to Government's Massive Spying Program | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 22.37 KBDec 29 23:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Cocaine Inc - The Technology Secrets of Cocaine Inc. - #ciadrugs #itnetwork http://ur1.ca/72s8cDec 29 23:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] cryptogon.com » Rootworms Becoming Resistant to #Monsanto’s Genetically Modified Corn - #gmo http://ur1.ca/72s9oDec 29 23:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: cryptogon.com    » Rootworms Becoming Resistant to Monsanto’s Genetically Modified Corn .::. Size~: 11.78 KBDec 29 23:26
schestowitzMinceR: I know :-)Dec 29 23:36
schestowitzhttp://cablegatesearch.net/cable.php?id=04COLOMBO545Dec 29 23:41
schestowitz" IBM Managing Director and former Amcham President, Kavan Ratnayaka described IBM efforts to support open source software development, noting that Sri Lanka has become an internationally recognized "brand" in the open source community."Dec 29 23:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cable reference id: #04COLOMBO545 .::. Size~: 26.43 KBDec 29 23:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Daily Bell - The Puzzling Case of #Stratfor and #Anonymous - http://goo.gl/sgYTEDec 29 23:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] #Wikipedia dumps #GoDaddy over #SOPA ur1.ca/72pk9Dec 29 23:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Daily Bell - The Puzzling Case of Stratfor and Anonymous .::. Size~: 91.25 KBDec 29 23:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Voted for Nokia N9 at http://ur1.ca/72h7mDec 29 23:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nokia Community Awards 2011 | Nokia Connects .::. Size~: 37.96 KBDec 29 23:51
*prurigro gives voice to formic_Dec 29 23:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] SOPA opponents may go nuclear and other 2012 predictions http://identi.ca/url/63407807 !effDec 29 23:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] http://identi.ca/url/751798 will contribute $1 per inbound transfer to !EFF until Jan 15th http://identi.ca/url/63407839Dec 29 23:59
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