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qu1j0t3schestowitz: https://twitter.com/#!/NickKristof/status/153665587896254466Jan 02 03:03
TechrightsSocial@NickKristof: Send in questions for Melinda Gates and me about maternal/child health or women's rights: http://t.co/x4xdC4XIJan 02 03:03
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schestowitzqu1j0t3: kristof too?Jan 02 08:59
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MinceRhttp://cheezfailbooking.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/funny-facebook-fails-sci-fi-strippers2.pngJan 02 15:06
TechrightsSocialNot a web page! Aborting image/png typeJan 02 15:06
qu1j0t3schestowitz: yeah Kristof but I already knew this.Jan 02 15:07
qu1j0t3schestowitz: he has always been a fence sitter, either by accident or because he refuses to digJan 02 15:07
schestowitzUsually he's okJan 02 17:11
schestowitzhe also called for a boycott against ms bongJan 02 17:11
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/fortuny/statuses/153800702710390785Jan 02 17:14
TechrightsSocial@fortuny: A United Nations cable shows the difference between developing countries and ruling nations http://t.co/A1feDhdY v @schestowitz @hapeeg #OSSJan 02 17:14
TechrightsSocial@: Jan 02 17:14
qu1j0t3schestowitz: "Usually he's ok"Jan 02 17:19
qu1j0t3schestowitz: sure. But he's promoting GF agenda.Jan 02 17:20
qu1j0t3schestowitz: whether ignorance or malice, who knows.Jan 02 17:20
schestowitzNYW was accused of serving Gates PR agaendaJan 02 17:28
schestowitzIIRC someone resigned over itJan 02 17:28
schestowitzBIll himself visits the NYT offices sometimesJan 02 17:28
schestowitzsetting the toneJan 02 17:29
schestowitzKristof legitimises plutocracy, so thanks for letting us know. Something to bear in mineJan 02 17:29
schestowitzHe hslps manufacture consent, maybe his bosses asked him toJan 02 17:30
qu1j0t3schestowitz: http://www.quora.com/Mass-Media/How-would-media-conglomerate-interests-trickle-down-into-the-day-to-day-news-operations/answer/Fred-LandisJan 02 17:31
TechrightsSocialTitle: Fred Landis's answer to Mass Media: How would media conglomerate interests trickle down into the day-to-day news operations? - Quora .::. Size~: 121.77 KBJan 02 17:31
qu1j0t3schestowitz: I've seen Kristof do this before. His tweet feed would reveal many other occasions.Jan 02 17:31
qu1j0t3schestowitz: I've restrained myself from challenging him numerous times.Jan 02 17:32
qu1j0t3including this one.Jan 02 17:32
schestowitzBetter not to feed themJan 02 17:40
schestowitzBut to expose the rruth from the outside, I findJan 02 17:40
schestowitzOtherwise they are fedJan 02 17:40
qu1j0t3rightJan 02 17:40
schestowitzRather than challengedJan 02 17:40
schestowitzIn their own platformJan 02 17:40
qu1j0t3& u tweak their fanclubJan 02 17:40
schestowitzI have many articlesJan 02 17:40
qu1j0t3like ObamaJan 02 17:40
schestowitz!google gates foundation critiqueJan 02 17:40
TechrightsSocial[1] - Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_%2526_Melinda_Gates_FoundationJan 02 17:40
TechrightsSocial[2] - Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_CritiqueJan 02 17:40
TechrightsSocial[3] - Inside the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation | World news | The ... | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/12/bill-and-melinda-gates-foundationJan 02 17:40
TechrightsSocial[4] - 'The Lancet' critique of the Gates Foundation: on the mark ... | http://crosscut.com/2009/05/19/gates-foundation/19000/Jan 02 17:40
qu1j0t3pointless waste of energyJan 02 17:40
schestowitzsee [2]Jan 02 17:40
schestowitzThey SEOd their way into wikipedia at topJan 02 17:40
schestowitzThe whole operation is a PR thing :-)Jan 02 17:40
qu1j0t3yesJan 02 17:41
qu1j0t3that's the key realisationJan 02 17:41
schestowitz http://crosscut.com \< funded by GAtesJan 02 17:41
qu1j0t3reputation launderingJan 02 17:41
TechrightsSocialTitle: Seattle News Online | Pacific Northwest News Online  | Crosscut.com .::. Size~: 70.59 KBJan 02 17:41
schestowitz http://www.guardian.co.uk << ALSO funded by GatesJan 02 17:41
TechrightsSocialTitle: Latest US and world news, sport and comment from the Guardian | guardiannews.com | The Guardian .::. Size~: 127.92 KBJan 02 17:41
schestowitzConicidenceJan 02 17:41
schestowitzThey SEO the Gates agendaJan 02 17:41
schestowitzPushing his staff into search engines too. he PAYS bothJan 02 17:41
schestowitz!google techrights crosscutJan 02 17:41
TechrightsSocial[1] - Gates Foundation Pays More Blogs Like GOOD ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/01/10/bill-gates-pays-bloggers/Jan 02 17:41
TechrightsSocial[2] - Bill Gates Buys More Blogs and Papers, Creates Puppet ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/08/21/education-system-lobby-assault/Jan 02 17:41
TechrightsSocial[3] - Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_CritiqueJan 02 17:41
TechrightsSocial[4] - Cablegate: In 2010, Patent Harmonisation “Not ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/09/17/cablegate-2010-patent-harmonization/Jan 02 17:41
schestowitz!google techrights gates guardianJan 02 17:41
TechrightsSocial[1] - What Has Happened to The Guardian? | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/05/27/the-guardian-fails/Jan 02 17:41
TechrightsSocial[2] - ES: ¿Qué ha Pasado con The Guardian? | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/05/27/the-guardian-fails_es/Jan 02 17:41
TechrightsSocial[3] - Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_CritiqueJan 02 17:41
TechrightsSocial[4] - Gates Foundation Purchases Famous Events ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/09/21/purchasing-main-events-for-pr/Jan 02 17:41
XFaCEschestowitz: wowJan 02 18:08
qu1j0t3it's a big, invisible problem that nobody talks about.Jan 02 18:10
qu1j0t3ditto Murdoch, but  who knows, maybe that will crack open? Not so far, though.Jan 02 18:10
XFaCEqu1j0t3: At least not for Fox News viewerJan 02 18:11
XFaCEsJan 02 18:11
XFaCEqu1j0t3: Bill Gates is still reveredJan 02 18:13
qu1j0t3XFaCE: yes, I know.Jan 02 18:13
qu1j0t3XFaCE: people have been trained to worship money.Jan 02 18:13
XFaCEThe reason I see is that people perceive him as deserving of his wealth through the success and "hard work" as compared with bankers that did nothingJan 02 18:13
qu1j0t3XFaCE: very usefulJan 02 18:13
XFaCEThis is the reason I see most oftenJan 02 18:13
XFaCE"It's not like their bill gates, these are bankers.. yadda yadda"Jan 02 18:14
XFaCEqu1j0t3: It isn't money worship I thinkJan 02 18:14
XFaCEBecause the bankers are hated nowJan 02 18:14
qu1j0t3they crossed a line.Jan 02 18:15
qu1j0t3but essentially, most people seem to worship money. look at Trump.Jan 02 18:15
qu1j0t3bankers are a popular, trendy dislikeJan 02 18:15
XFaCEqu1j0t3: Trump is at least ridiculedJan 02 18:15
qu1j0t3in some cases.Jan 02 18:15
schestowitzLike BransonJan 02 18:15
qu1j0t3Kardashians are not.Jan 02 18:15
XFaCEqu1j0t3: For example, TYTJan 02 18:15
qu1j0t3take away their money--they're nobody.Jan 02 18:15
qu1j0t3schestowitz: yes, branson.Jan 02 18:15
XFaCETYT criticizes TrumpJan 02 18:15
qu1j0t3schestowitz: "beyond criticism" because he is rich.Jan 02 18:15
qu1j0t3schestowitz: this is training.Jan 02 18:15
XFaCEBut doesn't criticize GatesJan 02 18:16
XFaCEThen again, they have a stupid position on file sharingJan 02 18:16
XFaCEschestowitz: The Young TurksJan 02 18:16
XFaCEqu1j0t3: Branson that bad? I perceived him far "better" than Gates, et al.Jan 02 18:16
qu1j0t3hahaJan 02 18:17
qu1j0t3no, they're all in the same clubJan 02 18:17
qu1j0t3but i am sure he'll be happy to know his PR worksJan 02 18:17
qu1j0t3XFaCE: put it this way. When did Branson EVER lift a finger to attack the problem?Jan 02 18:18
qu1j0t3XFaCE: it's a very simple test you can apply to anyoneJan 02 18:18
XFaCEqu1j0t3: Which problem?Jan 02 18:18
qu1j0t3XFaCE: journalists, too.Jan 02 18:18
qu1j0t3XFaCE: the real problem(s) we face.Jan 02 18:18
XFaCEahJan 02 18:18
qu1j0t3XFaCE: any of them. take social justice.Jan 02 18:18
MinceRdid Branson do as much damage as gates did, though?Jan 02 18:18
MinceR:>Jan 02 18:19
XFaCEMinceR: I'd say noJan 02 18:19
schestowitzMinceR: nopeJan 02 18:19
qu1j0t3MinceR: it's not about applying relative measures.Jan 02 18:19
schestowitzhe doesn't have a PR operation that bribe journos, thoughJan 02 18:19
qu1j0t3MinceR: but probably not.Jan 02 18:19
qu1j0t3We can mete out sentences when we get them in the dock.Jan 02 18:19
schestowitzGates is *still* doing a lot of damageJan 02 18:19
schestowitzNot only through MicrosoftJan 02 18:19
qu1j0t3until then, we need to work on getting them there.Jan 02 18:19
qu1j0t3schestowitz: exactlyJan 02 18:19
qu1j0t3schestowitz: more than ever, one might say.Jan 02 18:19
schestowitzSee Russian Today on himJan 02 18:20
XFaCEqu1j0t3: Have you found a link with Peter Gabriel and Gates at all, one that is worrysome?Jan 02 18:20
schestowitzKeiserJan 02 18:20
schestowitzHe pwned himJan 02 18:20
schestowitzHe does the same with agra and health now that he did with MSJan 02 18:20
qu1j0t3XFaCE: not to date.Jan 02 18:20
schestowitzMonopoly and IP taxesJan 02 18:20
XFaCEqu1j0t3: GoodJan 02 18:20
schestowitzimposition of One WayJan 02 18:20
MinceRgates can spend a ton of money on the right things to even just begin undoing the damage he did, but he isn't even doing thatJan 02 18:20
qu1j0t3MinceR: right.Jan 02 18:20
schestowitzBut he also bribes the press to play along while he does thisJan 02 18:20
qu1j0t3MinceR: he's doing the oppositeJan 02 18:20
qu1j0t3MinceR: BUTJan 02 18:20
MinceRindeedJan 02 18:20
schestowitzhe calls this "evangelisation" in antitrust exhibitsJan 02 18:20
qu1j0t3MinceR: since it's stolen money, he should be contemplating his crimes in a small cell.Jan 02 18:20
schestowitzYeahJan 02 18:21
MinceRwho should pay to feed him there?Jan 02 18:21
qu1j0t3MinceR: as anyone else would.Jan 02 18:21
MinceRand to keep him from escaping?Jan 02 18:21
qu1j0t3MinceR: the food won't be expensive.Jan 02 18:21
schestowitzMoney used to glorify rathert than measure the cost of the crimeJan 02 18:21
qu1j0t3MinceR: :DJan 02 18:21
qu1j0t3MinceR: I'd happily pay for his food to see him behind bars for a long time.Jan 02 18:21
schestowitzOnly in capitalism where Madoff is a criminal and JP Morgan is greatJan 02 18:21
schestowitzOne stole moneyJan 02 18:21
schestowitzOne got bailoutJan 02 18:21
schestowitzSame thingJan 02 18:21
schestowitzRobbed the publicJan 02 18:21
qu1j0t3schestowitz: Madoff was a dream come true Jan 02 18:21
qu1j0t3schestowitz: for the plutocracyJan 02 18:21
schestowitzscapegoat tooJan 02 18:22
schestowitzhe's not alone reallyJan 02 18:22
qu1j0t3schestowitz: the Timing! awesome! The crime! amazing! paint him as a criminal freak!Jan 02 18:22
qu1j0t3schestowitz: take all the heat!Jan 02 18:22
schestowitzThey should all be treated in the same wayJan 02 18:22
MinceRschestowitz: no, communism is even worseJan 02 18:22
qu1j0t3schestowitz: And it worked!!!!!Jan 02 18:22
schestowitzBut they put this one dude at the stake cause his business was smaller, easier target to cornerJan 02 18:22
schestowitzNo politicians to back himJan 02 18:22
MinceRwhere even stalin was seen as greatJan 02 18:22
schestowitzAnd pay him taxpayers' moneyJan 02 18:22
*XFaCE is away: I'm busy, byob.Jan 02 18:22
qu1j0t3schestowitz: and it discharged the anger.Jan 02 18:22
schestowitzokJan 02 18:22
schestowitznaaJan 02 18:22
schestowitzHardlyJan 02 18:23
schestowitzbutJan 02 18:23
qu1j0t3schestowitz: nobody will investigate anyone elseJan 02 18:23
schestowitzit;'s a diversaionJan 02 18:23
schestowitzblaming one guyJan 02 18:23
qu1j0t3schestowitz: most of it.Jan 02 18:23
schestowitzand not the systemJan 02 18:23
qu1j0t3schestowitz: nothing has happened since.Jan 02 18:23
schestowitzyeahJan 02 18:23
schestowitzwell..Jan 02 18:23
schestowitzmore bailoutJan 02 18:23
schestowitzsecret onesJan 02 18:23
qu1j0t3schestowitz: $12TJan 02 18:23
qu1j0t3schestowitz: nobody cared.Jan 02 18:23
qu1j0t3schestowitz: except some drunk, violent hippie scum, gone now.Jan 02 18:23
qu1j0t3schestowitz: fixed that.Jan 02 18:23
*qu1j0t3 is now known as VTM7HLuT5EG2Jan 02 18:24
schestowitzhehJan 02 18:24
schestowitzWait until the next waveJan 02 18:24
schestowitzEconomy tightenedJan 02 18:24
VTM7HLuT5EG2schestowitz: oh, i know.Jan 02 18:24
VTM7HLuT5EG2schestowitz: i've seen a bookJan 02 18:25
VTM7HLuT5EG2schestowitz: watch the media scramble to say we're in a special 'post historical', 'post revolutionary' time, where all we have to do is follow orders.Jan 02 18:25
schestowitzwhich one?Jan 02 18:25
VTM7HLuT5EG2schestowitz: any of them.Jan 02 18:25
schestowitzwell, that one, yesJan 02 18:25
schestowitzthat messageJan 02 18:25
schestowitzwe get that here a lot in MSMJan 02 18:25
schestowitzMainStream MediaJan 02 18:25
schestowitzIn the radio in the morningJan 02 18:26
schestowitzincitations\ against protesters for exampleJan 02 18:26
VTM7HLuT5EG2schestowitz: same with UKUncut, G20, OWS, yadda, always the f@&@&@ same.Jan 02 18:26
schestowitzSuddenly freedom of speech and protest and undemocraticJan 02 18:26
schestowitzThe curtains aside nowJan 02 18:26
VTM7HLuT5EG2schestowitz: https://twitter.com/#!/qu1j0t3/status/153852669189029888Jan 02 18:26
TechrightsSocial@qu1j0t3: "What happens when the people find out what is going on?"—"Why do you think we militarised the police and wrote new laws?" #OWSJan 02 18:26
schestowitzHehJan 02 18:27
schestowitzGive em tazers... they got em hereJan 02 18:27
schestowitzor maybe ordered someJan 02 18:27
schestowitzin LA they got m16s IIRCJan 02 18:27
schestowitzPreparing for anarchy post-apocalyptic days or just using the pretext of armed robbers with ak47sJan 02 18:27
schestowitzsome years agoJan 02 18:28
schestowitzgood for them... they got military-grade weapons now in the policeJan 02 18:28
VTM7HLuT5EG2schestowitz: tasers? are you kidding?Jan 02 18:30
VTM7HLuT5EG2schestowitz: they've been in North America for years.Jan 02 18:31
VTM7HLuT5EG2schestowitz: lethal weapon, helpfully mis-labelled non lethal.Jan 02 18:31
VTM7HLuT5EG2schestowitz: even pseudo-cops carry tasers here.Jan 02 18:31
VTM7HLuT5EG2hm, wait, scratch that.Jan 02 18:31
VTM7HLuT5EG2only a matter of time though.Jan 02 18:31
VTM7HLuT5EG2TSA?Jan 02 18:31
schestowitzUK I meantJan 02 18:33
schestowitz[18:27] <schestowitz> Give em tazers... they got em hereJan 02 18:33
VTM7HLuT5EG2i knowJan 02 18:33
VTM7HLuT5EG2but north america they're everywhere; taser corp corrupted policeJan 02 18:33
VTM7HLuT5EG2even in canadaJan 02 18:33
VTM7HLuT5EG2mislabelling a deadly weapon, how is that not a crime?Jan 02 18:34
schestowitzI misspelled Taser{tm}Jan 02 18:34
MinceRwhat's with the random nick? :)Jan 02 18:34
schestowitzVTM7HLuT5EG2: worseJan 02 18:34
schestowitzthe other day I watched the second part of Meet the ParentsJan 02 18:34
schestowitzAnd I think they embedded Taser promotion in itJan 02 18:34
schestowitzWhere they name it and the cop spouts out talking points about how it's not harmfulJan 02 18:35
schestowitzMaybe you can find that on youtube, there were many embedded ads in that film, so this too is likely. They used a trademark promotionally in the script.Jan 02 18:35
VTM7HLuT5EG2schestowitz: many deathsJan 02 18:35
schestowitzand they made it look comical when people are taseredJan 02 18:35
VTM7HLuT5EG2schestowitz: i follow twitter activists who have lost relativesJan 02 18:35
schestowitzwhich upset meJan 02 18:35
VTM7HLuT5EG2schestowitz: even when the victim DOESN'T die, it's horrible.Jan 02 18:36
schestowitzI told the girl, she didn't mind itJan 02 18:36
VTM7HLuT5EG2again, trained by TV.Jan 02 18:36
VTM7HLuT5EG2normalised a level of high violence.Jan 02 18:36
schestowitzshe doesn't mind the in-film ads, eitherJan 02 18:36
VTM7HLuT5EG2demonise protestersJan 02 18:36
schestowitzyrsterday we watched a horror filmsJan 02 18:36
VTM7HLuT5EG2"if the police are attacking you, you're a bad person, and you deserve it"Jan 02 18:36
schestowitzMe laughing at it bothered herJan 02 18:36
schestowitzI was not scared enough, I took it too easyJan 02 18:37
VTM7HLuT5EG2MinceR: maybe i'm boredJan 02 18:37
VTM7HLuT5EG2schestowitz: perhaps u should examine the purpose of such filmsJan 02 18:37
schestowitzthey also did CIA promotion Jan 02 18:37
schestowitzIn a senseJan 02 18:37
schestowitzAmong other thingsJan 02 18:37
schestowitzI don't like some films for this reasonJan 02 18:37
MinceRicJan 02 18:37
schestowitzThey try to push me into their boxJan 02 18:37
VTM7HLuT5EG2schestowitz: exactly the purposeJan 02 18:37
schestowitzSorry, I did not pretend to be afraid by "ghosts" :-)Jan 02 18:38
*XFaCE is back (gone 00:15:12)Jan 02 18:38
XFaCEbooJan 02 18:38
schestowitzAnd later she told me the story about her "out of body" expeience LOLJan 02 18:38
VTM7HLuT5EG2schestowitz: "this is entertainment. we will keep repeating it until you consider it entertainment"Jan 02 18:38
schestowitzMehJan 02 18:38
MinceRXFaCE: mooJan 02 18:38
VTM7HLuT5EG2https://twitter.com/#!/brendlewhat/status/96629573969641473Jan 02 18:38
TechrightsSocial@brendlewhat: Go to the Borders liquidation sale and beat the shit out of anyone buying Ayn Rand books, and tell them it's the fault of their own weaknessJan 02 18:38
schestowitzTaser and TSA are similar... nasty but promoted as clean painless security... Jan 02 18:39
schestowitzTSA is now a big Rapi-scan clientJan 02 18:39
schestowitzboth for suitcases and peopleJan 02 18:39
schestowitzwhich are the same in today's world -- suspicious objectsJan 02 18:40
schestowitzHow long before they put us on the conveyor belts?Jan 02 18:40
XFaCEVTM7HLuT5EG2: Do you use a password generator for your usernames? :PJan 02 18:40
schestowitzHeck, maybe they'll also lead us to soap and "shower" before getting scannedJan 02 18:40
XFaCETechrightsSocial: lolJan 02 18:40
VTM7HLuT5EG2XFaCE: no, i flipped 72 coins.Jan 02 18:41
VTM7HLuT5EG2schestowitz: TSA, Taser, all part of the police/military/security/murder complex. BIG MONEY.Jan 02 18:41
VTM7HLuT5EG2schestowitz: VERY BIG MONEY stolen from taxpayers.Jan 02 18:41
VTM7HLuT5EG2schestowitz: wouldn't you want a piece of it?Jan 02 18:41
schestowitzthey don't vote on itJan 02 18:41
VTM7HLuT5EG2schestowitz: even 0.00001% of a trillion is a lot!Jan 02 18:41
schestowitzboth parties in all countries don't make it an election issueJan 02 18:42
VTM7HLuT5EG2schestowitz: coudl pay off your credit card!!!!!Jan 02 18:42
VTM7HLuT5EG2schestowitz: correct.Jan 02 18:42
VTM7HLuT5EG2schestowitz: it's not supposed to be voted on.Jan 02 18:42
schestowitzthe more the merrieris the assumptionJan 02 18:42
XFaCEVTM7HLuT5EG2: Why can't you use FurnaceBoy instead :( ?Jan 02 18:42
schestowitzIn North Korea, for everyone to be in the military seems to have been taken for grantedJan 02 18:42
*VTM7HLuT5EG2 is now known as FurnaceBoyJan 02 18:43
XFaCEschestowitz: If the propaganda footage is any indicationJan 02 18:43
XFaCEFurnaceBoy: Yay!Jan 02 18:43
XFaCEFurnaceBoy: Now don't blow any hot air.Jan 02 18:44
FurnaceBoyhehJan 02 18:44
XFaCEHa Ha Ha HaJan 02 18:44
XFaCEFurnaceBoy: I still have to read the Steve Jobs biography I received as a gift.Jan 02 19:01
XFaCESo I know "all sides of the 'story'"Jan 02 19:02
*MinceR chucklesJan 02 19:03
XFaCEMinceR: Enough quotes?Jan 02 19:03
MinceR:>Jan 02 19:03
FurnaceBoyXFaCE: hahaJan 02 19:04
FurnaceBoyXFaCE: you won't get a pro-Steve view from the biog.Jan 02 19:05
FurnaceBoyXFaCE: it has been very poorly reviewed, as a biographyJan 02 19:05
FurnaceBoyXFaCE: can you say "rushed to print"Jan 02 19:05
XFaCEFurnaceBoy: The "by Walter Issacson" one?Jan 02 19:07
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/12/01/02/1359232/earthquakes-that-may-be-related-to-fracking-close-ohio-oil-well?utm_source=rss1.0moreanon&utm_medium=feedJan 02 19:07
FurnaceBoyXFaCE: yeahJan 02 19:07
TechrightsSocialTitle: Earthquakes That May Be Related To Fracking Close Ohio Oil Well - Slashdot .::. Size~: 243.8 KBJan 02 19:07
FurnaceBoyXFaCE: from what I hear it's a poor quality piece of workJan 02 19:07
XFaCEoh wowJan 02 19:07
XFaCE"Proposals for the book to be adapted into a feature-length biographical film were announced a few days after Jobs's death.[17] Sony Pictures acquired the rights to the book from author Walter Isaacson for a seven-figure sum. The film will be titled Steve Jobs and will be produced by Mark Gordon.[18]Jan 02 19:07
XFaCEAlthough it will be the first feature-length film to document the life of Jobs, previous films have been produced. In 1999, a television film Pirates of Silicon Valley was released, with Noah Wyle playing Jobs."Jan 02 19:07
XFaCEreally?Jan 02 19:07
FurnaceBoyXFaCE: cash-insJan 02 19:07
XFaCEiGlorified?Jan 02 19:07
FurnaceBoyXFaCE: yes. rushed to print, sensationalistJan 02 19:07
FurnaceBoyXFaCE: oh, no.Jan 02 19:07
FurnaceBoyXFaCE: you won't get a glorification of Steve from this book Jan 02 19:08
FurnaceBoyXFaCE: i doubt it is much use, really. Probably "Infinite Loop" is a better portrait. And that's not flattering either.Jan 02 19:08
FurnaceBoyI bet Isaacson is busy working on Kim Jong Il's unauth biog nowJan 02 19:09
FurnaceBoyXFaCE: this is pretty much the comment I see, over and over. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3229928Jan 02 19:09
TechrightsSocialTitle: Isaacson's book is a hatchet job, with many errors, and some downright dishonest... | Hacker News .::. Size~: 68.69 KBJan 02 19:09
FurnaceBoyfrom various people, some not even techiesJan 02 19:10
FurnaceBoyit looks like it's riddled with errors and lazinessJan 02 19:10
FurnaceBoytotally expected, reallyJan 02 19:10
XFaCEFurnaceBoy: Typical from the authore?Jan 02 19:11
FurnaceBoyXFaCE: yes, that tooJan 02 19:11
FurnaceBoySteve was no angel, but we don't need a shitty biography to tell us thatJan 02 19:12
XFaCEFurnaceBoy: RMS does a good job by himself :)Jan 02 19:14
FurnaceBoyhttp://www.quora.com/Is-the-Steve-Jobs-biography-by-Walter-Isaacson-an-accurate-portrayal-of-the-man-and-the-life-he-led/answer/Fred-LandisJan 02 19:16
TechrightsSocialTitle: Fred Landis's answer to Is the Steve Jobs biography by Walter Isaacson an accurate portrayal of the man, and the life he led? - Quora .::. Size~: 83.43 KBJan 02 19:16
XFaCEyikesJan 02 19:17
XFaCEThough I don't think Jobs had AspergersJan 02 19:20
FurnaceBoythere's anotehr answer which sheds more light on that. http://www.quora.com/Steve-Jobs-2011-biography/What-did-Walter-Isaacson-do-wrong-in-his-Steve-Jobs-biography/answer/Fred-LandisJan 02 19:23
TechrightsSocialTitle: Fred Landis's answer to Steve Jobs (2011 biography): What did Walter Isaacson do wrong in his Steve Jobs biography? - Quora .::. Size~: 89.33 KBJan 02 19:23
FurnaceBoy(same answerer)Jan 02 19:23
FurnaceBoyi think a case can be made. and the case for Gates is open-and-shut.Jan 02 19:23
FurnaceBoyclearly autisticJan 02 19:23
FurnaceBoyunfortunately, the bad kind.Jan 02 19:23
XFaCEyepJan 02 19:40
XFaCEbblJan 02 19:40
*XFaCE is away: I'm busy, byob.Jan 02 19:40
schestowitzXFaCE: you need to disable those notifications, they cause noise and are considered bad practiceJan 02 19:52
schestowitzthe away thingJan 02 19:52
MinceRagreedJan 02 20:56
*XFaCE is back (gone 00:00:07)Jan 02 21:02
FurnaceBoy:)Jan 02 21:03
XFaCEschestowitz: I thought it is more poilite to notify then to make people assume that you are actually thereJan 02 21:03
FurnaceBoycan be done manually if you're in a conversationJan 02 21:03
*FurnaceBoy actually mentally filters this kind of noise so doesn't really have a dog in the fightJan 02 21:03
XFaCEFurnaceBoy: Finding the best cd pressing for albums is hardJan 02 21:13
XFaCEFor example, The Lamb Lies Down of BroadwayJan 02 21:13
XFaCEI've narrowed it down thoughJan 02 21:13
XFaCEShould I go for the noise-reduction DE, or the original master?Jan 02 21:13
XFaCEThat is the questionJan 02 21:14
schestowitz!google away message irc are evilJan 02 21:14
TechrightsSocial[1] - How to idle on IRC | http://bisqwit.iki.fi/jutut/away.htmlJan 02 21:14
TechrightsSocial[2] - how to annoy people? (the #irchelp website.) | http://help.dal.net/irchelp/annoyance.phpJan 02 21:14
TechrightsSocial[3] - mIRC: IRC Frequently Asked Questions | http://www.mirc.com/ircintro.htmlJan 02 21:14
TechrightsSocial[4] - Irssi Help | http://static.quadpoint.org/irssi-docs/help-full.htmlJan 02 21:14
schestowitzi made the same mistakeJan 02 21:14
schestowitz3 years agoJan 02 21:14
schestowitzso someone in the IRC channel gave me a link about it, I disabled the optionJan 02 21:15
schestowitzMandriva IRC channelJan 02 21:15
FurnaceBoyXFaCE: i don't have an opinion on that. :<Jan 02 21:16
XFaCEschestowitz: DisabledJan 02 21:16
XFaCEFurnaceBoy: Not a big Genesis fan? :DJan 02 21:17
XFaCEschestowitz: I mean I turned it offJan 02 21:17
schestowitz:-)Jan 02 21:17
XFaCEschestowitz: So have you seen the new Dreamlinux release?Jan 02 21:18
XFaCEI was facsinated by it, say 5 years agoJan 02 21:18
XFaCEschestowitz: The new release, despite being touted as "completely" OSS, includes the proprietary softmaker suiteJan 02 21:19
XFaCE...Jan 02 21:19
*FurnaceBoy is now known as qu1j0t3Jan 02 21:19
XFaCEWB qu1j0t3 Jan 02 21:20
XFaCEhmmJan 02 21:20
qu1j0t3XFaCE: hiJan 02 21:20
XFaCEQuonejzerot-three?Jan 02 21:21
qu1j0t3Quixote the bane of windmillsJan 02 21:21
XFaCEqu1j0t3: rly?Jan 02 21:22
qu1j0t3yesJan 02 21:22
qu1j0t3i see windmill, i fight it like the bullJan 02 21:23
XFaCEthat sounds familiarJan 02 21:24
XFaCEAre you quoting that story of the insane guy who attacks a windmill?Jan 02 21:24
qu1j0t3yes.Jan 02 21:24
XFaCEqu1j0t3: Can't believe I got that reference :SJan 02 21:25
qu1j0t3Cervantes. Don Quixote.Jan 02 21:25
XFaCEqu1j0t3: YeahJan 02 21:25
XFaCEqu1j0t3: It was referenced in a Star Trek TNG novel, VendettaJan 02 21:25
qu1j0t3i cJan 02 21:26
schestowitz[21:19] <XFaCE> schestowitz: The new release, despite being touted as "completely" OSS, includes the proprietary softmaker suiteJan 02 21:27
schestowitzI didn't knowJan 02 21:27
schestowitzdreamlinux doesn't get much coverage anymoreJan 02 21:27
schestowitzin fact, v. 5 has just come out IIRC, it's made in BrazilJan 02 21:28
XFaCEschestowitz: Yeah, just got the RSS feed update from DistrowatchJan 02 21:29
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schestowitzender is backJan 02 23:19
schestowitzto #techrightsJan 02 23:19
schestowitztrolling msbJan 02 23:19
qu1j0t3yayJan 02 23:28
schestowitzit's funny axtuallyJan 02 23:33
qu1j0t3i betJan 02 23:34
schestowitzhe's not too amusedJan 02 23:35
qu1j0t3meds ran outJan 02 23:38
schestowitzin the store, tooJan 02 23:43
schestowitzCall BCJan 02 23:43

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