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| schestowitz | hey oiaohm_ | Jan 17 00:11 |
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| oiaohm | Hi schestowitz | Jan 17 00:11 |
| schestowitz | Heh http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Schez | Jan 17 00:39 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Urban Dictionary: Schez .::. Size~: 17.3 KB | Jan 17 00:39 |
| XFaCE | how goes you, qu1j0t3 ? | Jan 17 03:09 |
| qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: not bad, not bad. | Jan 17 03:11 |
| qu1j0t3 | u? | Jan 17 03:11 |
| XFaCE | good | Jan 17 03:11 |
| XFaCE | I missed the Harper misdirection hour, ala his one-on-one interview, did you catch it? | Jan 17 03:12 |
| qu1j0t3 | hell no. i don't watch tv. | Jan 17 03:13 |
| qu1j0t3 | because i'd shout at it, throw things at it, and pitch it over the balcony. | Jan 17 03:13 |
| XFaCE | qu1j0t3: fun | Jan 17 03:16 |
| XFaCE | I suppose you could watch it on CBC's site instead :P | Jan 17 03:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: and i don't own a gun, so i can't just shoot it , like Bob Geldof in The Wall | Jan 17 03:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | not a chance, XFaCE. I know what harper is already. | Jan 17 03:18 |
| XFaCE | qu1j0t3: If you don't, you can't be called fair and balanced! | Jan 17 03:19 |
| XFaCE | Just like Microsoft is towards Free software | Jan 17 03:19 |
| XFaCE | hyuck hyuck hycuk | Jan 17 03:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | heh, no, i can't learn anything from a harper interview. | Jan 17 03:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | i've seen his kind many times | Jan 17 03:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | just a cancer , to be fought | Jan 17 03:21 |
| XFaCE | qu1j0t3: A cancer | Jan 17 04:15 |
| XFaCE | good metaphor | Jan 17 04:15 |
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| XFaCE | qu1j0t3: And to think, all this could have been avoided | Jan 17 04:34 |
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| schestowitz | Steve Jobs died by his own stupidity, some day | Jan 17 09:22 |
| schestowitz | *say | Jan 17 09:22 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: he had cancel that is treatable, but he didn't take the doctor's advice | Jan 17 09:23 |
| schestowitz | For thinking he's God he just... well, dued | Jan 17 09:23 |
| schestowitz | *died | Jan 17 09:23 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1182422 " | Jan 17 09:26 |
| schestowitz | SOPA is dead now. Congratulations on calling it toxic while the propaganda was strong. | Jan 17 09:26 |
| TechrightsSocial | @: | Jan 17 09:26 |
| schestowitz | http://www.examiner.com/computers-in-denver/house-kills-sopa | Jan 17 09:26 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: House Kills SOPA - Denver Computers | Examiner.com .::. Size~: 65.82 KB | Jan 17 09:26 |
| schestowitz | " | Jan 17 09:26 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1085980 | Jan 17 09:29 |
| TechrightsSocial | @: | Jan 17 09:29 |
| schestowitz | OIN has just invited me to have a meeting with their CEO.. :-) | Jan 17 14:00 |
| schestowitz | > Dear Dr. Schestowitz, | Jan 17 14:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 17 14:00 |
| schestowitz | > My name is Steve and I’m writing on behalf of Open Invention Network. | Jan 17 14:00 |
| schestowitz | > Keith Bergelt, CEO, is going to be in London on January 27^th and he | Jan 17 14:00 |
| schestowitz | > would love to meet with you to bring you up to speed on the latest work | Jan 17 14:01 |
| schestowitz | > by OIN as well as discuss IP and technology law in general. | Jan 17 14:01 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 17 14:01 |
| schestowitz | > Wanted to see if you will be around London on the 27^th and if you have | Jan 17 14:01 |
| schestowitz | > any availability during the day for a catch-up meeting with Keith? | Jan 17 14:01 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 17 14:01 |
| schestowitz | > Hope we can work it out! | Jan 17 14:01 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 17 14:01 |
| schestowitz | > Best, | Jan 17 14:01 |
| schestowitz | Hi Steve, | Jan 17 14:01 |
| schestowitz | Thank you for the invitation. My employer is based near London and I occasionally go to London (next time in February 7th). How long will Keith be in London? I would love to meet him, but I cannot be there the prior week (I work from home in Manchester much of the time). | Jan 17 14:01 |
| schestowitz | ... | Jan 17 14:02 |
| schestowitz | Then I thought | Jan 17 14:02 |
| schestowitz | Maybe I can at least do an interview with him.. | Jan 17 14:02 |
| schestowitz | "If Keith and I are unable to meet this month, will it at least be possible for me to have a Q&A with him for publication? I would be polite and gentle with my questions." | Jan 17 14:02 |
| schestowitz | So I reckon he'll give us that at Techrights | Jan 17 14:02 |
| schestowitz | We had Red Hat's CEO do a Q&A last month | Jan 17 14:02 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: This is getting interesting. | Jan 17 14:02 |
| schestowitz | OIN reads techrights | Jan 17 14:02 |
| schestowitz | They told me | Jan 17 14:02 |
| oiaohm | Keith Bergelt is very hard to get a interview with. | Jan 17 14:03 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/88796884 http://identi.ca/conversation/88639866#notice-88796884 | Jan 17 14:03 |
| TechrightsSocial | @Sander (sandersch)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Jan-12 12:23:00 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz yeah he is a trustworthy unbiased advisor. | Jan 17 14:03 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: I spoke to him on the phone for an hour and a half a few months ago | Jan 17 14:04 |
| schestowitz | I didn't take notes though | Jan 17 14:04 |
| schestowitz | OIN doesn't like to show its card, secrecy there is part of their poker game against MS, Apple etc. | Jan 17 14:04 |
| oiaohm | But there is such thing as saber ratteling. | Jan 17 14:05 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/satyawatii/status/159209923463487489 http://twitter.com/satyawatii/statuses/159210040677498881 | Jan 17 14:05 |
| oiaohm | Its not what you have its what they think you have. | Jan 17 14:05 |
| TechrightsSocial | @satyawatii: Orwellian tracking system goes public http://t.co/1vZvy4W9 | Jan 17 14:05 |
| TechrightsSocial | @: | Jan 17 14:05 |
| TechrightsSocial | @satyawatii: Microsoft to Spy on Indians, Bank Accounts, Health Records (and Conduct Profiling of Customers) http://t.co/SAWAyIVo | Jan 17 14:05 |
| TechrightsSocial | @: | Jan 17 14:05 |
| schestowitz | I think patents are now officially the #1 issue | Jan 17 14:05 |
| oiaohm | Really we cannot forget open formats | Jan 17 14:06 |
| schestowitz | Not ubuntu or unity or some "is Linux ready for the desktop" debate | Jan 17 14:06 |
| oiaohm | MS is bring out a new filesystem at the moment. | Jan 17 14:06 |
| schestowitz | And as Android is market leader, this is now the big leagues for Linux, not a niche | Jan 17 14:06 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: new patents | Jan 17 14:06 |
| schestowitz | MS extorts Android using filesystems | Jan 17 14:06 |
| schestowitz | Keith told me the old Samsung patent deal was over FAT | Jan 17 14:07 |
| oiaohm | The two important things is open formats and patents. | Jan 17 14:07 |
| schestowitz | MS called ikt Linux | Jan 17 14:07 |
| schestowitz | Cause the FAT support was in Linux | Jan 17 14:07 |
| schestowitz | open formats are coming through the Web | Jan 17 14:07 |
| schestowitz | and more | Jan 17 14:07 |
| schestowitz | ODF is doing quite OK, but could be improved | Jan 17 14:07 |
| oiaohm | If we win on patents and lose on open formats we might as well not win. | Jan 17 14:07 |
| oiaohm | Yet if we win on open formats and lose on patents | Jan 17 14:08 |
| oiaohm | One thing patents are not for ever. | Jan 17 14:08 |
| oiaohm | Future still has hope that way. | Jan 17 14:09 |
| oiaohm | Note open formats also include open platforms to run that stuff on. | Jan 17 14:09 |
| MinceR | they're still too long-lived in the IT time scale | Jan 17 14:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: we out lived ttf patents. | Jan 17 14:11 |
| oiaohm | Same with mp3 | Jan 17 14:12 |
| oiaohm | This is the thing open formats they have a habit of slowly evovling. | Jan 17 14:12 |
| oiaohm | So in time they out live what ever patent is on them. | Jan 17 14:12 |
| oiaohm | Really the big devil we have to watch out for is the growing force for unlimited life on copyright. | Jan 17 14:14 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: when did we outlive ttf patents? also, afaik there are a few mp3 patents remaining | Jan 17 14:20 |
| MinceR | (at least someone said so on TR recently...) | Jan 17 14:20 |
| oiaohm | mp3 patents remaining are encoding only. | Jan 17 14:20 |
| oiaohm | Not decoding. | Jan 17 14:20 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: ttf patents a few years back when freetype could at long last enable font hinting by default. | Jan 17 14:21 |
| oiaohm | Basically you can encode mp3 without the patents. | Jan 17 14:22 |
| oiaohm | Stupidly a few of the remaining patents on mp3 result in worse encoding than lame. MinceR | Jan 17 14:23 |
| oiaohm | Basically they patented a screw up. | Jan 17 14:23 |
| MinceR | :> | Jan 17 14:23 |
| oiaohm | There were patents on the zip format at well. | Jan 17 14:24 |
| oiaohm | Lot of patents in the computer world have gone by by | Jan 17 14:24 |
| oiaohm | Lot remain yes. | Jan 17 14:24 |
| schestowitz | > Hi Dr. Schestowitz, | Jan 17 14:35 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 17 14:35 |
| schestowitz | > Thanks for your response! I don't believe Keith will still be in London on February 7th but I will double check and let you know. | Jan 17 14:35 |
| schestowitz | Thanks. That would be appreciated. | Jan 17 14:35 |
| schestowitz | Jan 17 14:35 | |
| schestowitz | > Would be happy to look into setting up a Q&A as well. Is there a specific publication you had in mind for the piece? | Jan 17 14:35 |
| schestowitz | I publish under http://techrights.org , which is a site that covers patent issues quite closely. Keith is familiar with this site. | Jan 17 14:35 |
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| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: drones are good ! http://news.slashdot.org/story/12/01/16/2325226/drone-guides-fuel-shipment-to-alaskan-town?utm_source=rss1.0moreanon&utm_medium=feed | Jan 17 16:33 |
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| schestowitz | > Hello, | Jan 17 16:45 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 17 16:45 |
| schestowitz | > Unfortunately Keith won't be in London on the 7th but would love to schedule a phone briefing for your Q&A. How is your availability in early February? Perhaps the 2nd or 3rd? | Jan 17 16:45 |
| schestowitz | I was wondering if perhaps he prefers for it to be done via E-mail. I spoke to him over the phone for an hour and a half a few months back. | Jan 17 16:45 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1191487 "To Spain, BOOOO!!!!!!" | Jan 17 17:08 |
| TechrightsSocial | @: | Jan 17 17:08 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/88810220 | Jan 17 17:34 |
| TechrightsSocial | @Vladimir SaviÄ (firusvg)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Jan-12 17:28:03 UTC - Identi.ca: So you still think the internet is free? http://open.youyuxi.com /via @schestowitz #fb | Jan 17 17:34 |
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| XFaCE | qu1j0t3: Why are you omnipresent here? | Jan 17 18:22 |
| schestowitz | he's king of policitics | Jan 17 18:22 |
| schestowitz | OK, I got the interview assured now | Jan 17 18:22 |
| schestowitz | > Sure, feel free to send over the questions at your earliest convenience and I'll route them through to Keith. | Jan 17 18:22 |
| schestowitz | Question: How would you quantify OIN's growth over the past few years? In particular, what is the significance of the number of members and the sum of their patents? | Jan 17 18:22 |
| schestowitz | Question: Does the OIN stand behind Tizen following Nokia's apparent retreat from MeeGo? What about the rumoured new Linux-based platform from Nokia (for low-end phones)? Does the OIN have that covered? And what about WebOS? | Jan 17 18:22 |
| schestowitz | Question: To what degree, if any, does the OIN assist Android in patent battles? | Jan 17 18:22 |
| schestowitz | Question: How can the OIN facilitate feud prevention among its members, e.g. Oracle versus Google? | Jan 17 18:22 |
| schestowitz | Question: How does the OIN conduct its cause politically (if at all)? | Jan 17 18:22 |
| schestowitz | Question: How does the OIN plan to counter threat from entities such as Mosaid? If reactionary means such as defensive patents cannot help, are antitrust complaints something the OIN can subscribe to (like the OSI and FSF did regarding CPTN)? | Jan 17 18:22 |
| schestowitz | Thank you in advance for your time. | Jan 17 18:22 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: interview for an OIn guy? | Jan 17 18:23 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Jan 17 18:24 |
| XFaCE | who? | Jan 17 18:25 |
| schestowitz | Keith, the CEO | Jan 17 18:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: omnipresent? | Jan 17 18:26 |
| XFaCE | qu1j0t3: *always*present | Jan 17 18:30 |
| qu1j0t3 | i'm always present in all my chans. joys of vps + screen. | Jan 17 18:37 |
| XFaCE | qu1j0t3: Same here, with a ZNC server | Jan 17 18:49 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: :> | Jan 17 19:55 |
| schestowitz | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16590585 | Jan 17 19:55 |
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| schestowitz | "Murdoch wants media control. fullstop. Look at his lobbying on the 'education' front also. He'll be looking forward to his allocated portion of the new internet." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1191487 | Jan 17 20:15 |
| TechrightsSocial | @: | Jan 17 20:15 |
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