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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Happy new year everyone.Jan 01 00:01
-christel-[Global Notice] Happy new Year to the those on fST which covers UK, Portugal, Morocco, Ireland, parts of Spain, Iceland, Cote d'Ivoire, Mali, Togo, Senegal, Gambia, Faroe Islands, Guinea-Bissau, Isle of Man, Greenland, Saint helena, Mauritania, Sao Tome, Guinea, Western Sahara, Ghana, Burkina Faso, Sierra Leone and Liberia! Welcome to 2012 - Year Of The Troll!Jan 01 00:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Happy New Year and stuff :-)Jan 01 00:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Obama signs bill declaring all Americans enemy combatants, suspends Forth Amendment http://identi.ca/url/63555699Jan 01 00:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Obama signs defense bill, pledges to maintain legal rights of terror suspects - The Washington Post .::. Size~: 115.5 KBJan 01 00:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] DeSopa Circumvents SOPA — Despite its Anti-Circumvention Measures http://identi.ca/url/63555749 !effJan 01 00:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] How SOPA Could Ruin Everybody's Life http://identi.ca/url/63555758Jan 01 00:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #2012; Penn Jillette: An Atheist's Guide to the 2012 Election http://identi.ca/url/63555765Jan 01 00:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DeSopa Circumvents SOPA — Despite its Anti-Circumvention Measures | Brajeshwar .::. Size~: 24.83 KBJan 01 00:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How SOPA Could Ruin My Life - Forbes .::. Size~: 121.46 KBJan 01 00:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Penn Jillette: An Atheist's Guide to the 2012 Election - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 27.05 KBJan 01 00:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Obama signs bill declaring all Americans enemy combatants, suspends Fifth Amendment http://identi.ca/url/63555699Jan 01 00:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Obama signs defense bill, pledges to maintain legal rights of terror suspects - The Washington Post .::. Size~: 115.5 KBJan 01 00:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #2012: Bob Barr: Fifth Amendment latest victim of War on Terror http://identi.ca/url/63555854Jan 01 00:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] President Obama signs NDAA with indefinite military detention provisions. http://is.gd/S6dEQ6Jan 01 00:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nothing found for  2011 12 12 Fifth-amendment-latest-victim-of-war-on-terror #ixzz1iA2hHFnD .::. Size~: 41.58 KBJan 01 00:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: President Obama Signs Indefinite Detention Into Law » Blog of Rights: Official Blog of the American Civil Liberties Union .::. Size~: 39.39 KBJan 01 00:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Bleeding The Gulf - The United Nations Sanctions on #Iraq (by Nafeez Mosaddeq Ahmed) - Media Monitors Network http://goo.gl/ZDo1b #un #usaJan 01 00:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bleeding The Gulf - The United Nations Sanctions on Iraq (by Nafeez Mosaddeq Ahmed) - Media Monitors Network .::. Size~: 363.55 KBJan 01 00:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] MIDLAND TX--Man caught with explosives at airport. http://is.gd/JIsFcsJan 01 00:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @ Kevie we have not forgotten about him.Jan 01 00:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Man with explosives stopped at Texas airport - Yahoo! News .::. Size~: 326.34 KBJan 01 00:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] If OStatus relies on feeds, that could explain why remote sites can't receive from !Identica today.Jan 01 00:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Preps For 2012 - Modern Survival Blog – surviving uncertain times - #preppers http://goo.gl/zuzPfJan 01 01:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] THE SUB/URBAN WARRIOR - Modern Survival Blog – surviving uncertain times - #edc #ghb http://goo.gl/pQqh0Jan 01 01:01
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: THE SUB/URBAN WARRIOR - Modern Survival Blog – surviving uncertain times .::. Size~: 246.26 KBJan 01 01:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 4 Simple Steps to Grow a Hundred Pounds of Potatoes in a Barrel | greenUPGRADER - #preppers #foodhttp://goo.gl/1D8C9Jan 01 01:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 4 Simple Steps to Grow a Hundred Pounds of Potatoes in a Barrel | greenUPGRADER .::. Size~: 135.36 KBJan 01 01:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 37 #Food Items You Won’t Find In A Crisis - Modern Survival Blog – surviving uncertain times - #preppers http://goo.gl/s9vpiJan 01 01:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 37 Food Items You Won’t Find In A Crisis - Modern Survival Blog – surviving uncertain times .::. Size~: 216.87 KBJan 01 01:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Six natural alternatives to ibuprofen - Phoenix Alternative Medicine | Examiner.com - #preppers #naturalmedhttp://goo.gl/XS0v6Jan 01 01:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Six natural alternatives to ibuprofen - Phoenix Alternative Medicine | Examiner.com .::. Size~: 33.47 KBJan 01 01:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Travelling at 6am on the local train on a cool breezy January 1st isn't too bad :-)Jan 01 01:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Globalization of War - GRTV Backgrounder - YouTube - #wwiii http://ur1.ca/74tvyJan 01 01:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Globalization of War - GRTV Backgrounder       - YouTube .::. Size~: 135.4 KBJan 01 01:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Ping ping. Is this thing on?Jan 01 01:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Middle East Will Be In Flames In #2012, Lindsey Williams -Video | Before It's News - #nwo #wwiii http://goo.gl/dVevNJan 01 01:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Before It's News .::. Size~: 11.68 KBJan 01 01:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Obama signs #NDAA bill from Hawaii | COLLAPSENET - #martiallaw one step closer... #usa #policestate http://goo.gl/YQzoPJan 01 01:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] OK, I see the problem. I'll try to get it fixed in the next couple of hours.Jan 01 01:25
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sebsebsebHmm wasn't in here still oh well now I amJan 01 01:30
sebsebsebHappy New YearsJan 01 01:30
MinceRhnyJan 01 01:31
sebsebsebMinceR: HiJan 01 01:32
sebsebseboh and that's not like you to be on at 02:32am your timeJan 01 01:33
sebsebseb,but then again I suppouse it's New Years, so yeahJan 01 01:33
MinceRindeedJan 01 01:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] cryptogon.com » ‘The First Goal Is an Uncensorable Internet in Space’ - #ccc #freedomtools http://goo.gl/mKiqAJan 01 01:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: cryptogon.com    » ‘The First Goal Is an Uncensorable Internet in Space’ .::. Size~: 12.1 KBJan 01 01:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @diablod3 DeSopa Circumvents SOPA — Despite its Anti-Circumvention Measures http://ur1.ca/74u8f !effJan 01 01:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @eff 2011 in Review: patents are misused to stifle innovation. https://eff.org/r.3MEJan 01 01:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DeSopa Circumvents SOPA — Despite its Anti-Circumvention Measures | Brajeshwar .::. Size~: 24.83 KBJan 01 01:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 2011 in Review: Patents Misused to Stifle Innovation | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 30.64 KBJan 01 01:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Amidst all the hoopla surrounding the New Year , people seem to have forgotten that it is "happy mailman reminder day" today as well !!! :)Jan 01 01:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @digiphile: 3 key endorsements of #opendata in 2011: @WorldBank @OpenGovPart & @NeelieKroesEU http://t.c http://p.ost.im/p/ePTANcJan 01 01:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Montana senators face recall over #NDAA vote. http://is.gd/U7B8R7Jan 01 02:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Montanans Launch Recall of Senators Who Approved NDAA Military Detention. Merry Christmas, US Senate - Salem-News.Com .::. Size~: 78.52 KBJan 01 02:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Wikileaks Truck just arrived at #OWS ~ Watch Occupy bring in 2012 LIVE http://t.co/rDZhxFDgJan 01 02:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @anonymouSabu: https://t.co/dziiRqrI NY Police Chiefs mailspoolz. https://t.co/ifyWAWpi CSLEA db+mailspoolz. #antisec owning Law enfo ...Jan 01 02:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Call to action for 2012: full disk encryption on every machine you own! Who's with us? https://eff.org/r.3NgJan 01 02:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: New Year's Resolution: Full Disk Encryption on Every Computer You Own | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 31.71 KBJan 01 02:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] http://t.co/1pfnpErQ NY Police Chiefs emails http://t.co/v5aByGk8 CSLEA db+emails #antisec owning Law enforcement in 2012.Jan 01 02:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] Ahoy happy #LCA2012 goers! Follow @LCAWeather for your weather updates. Many thanks to @zaffle - awesome work!Jan 01 02:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Cory Doctorow: Data-driven tech corps exploiting people's undervaluation of privacy. http://is.gd/rpE7RaJan 01 03:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cory Doctorow: Tech companies exploit the way we undervalue privacy | VentureBeat .::. Size~: 70.06 KBJan 01 03:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Don't play no game that I can't win.Jan 01 03:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] No, it was a bug in the feed generation code. Fixed now!Jan 01 03:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Yeah, that was the problem.Jan 01 03:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Does the NDAA have implications for the Assange extradition? http://t.co/STbTIYKhJan 01 03:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] I'm going to try to avoid any entertainment that supports the big media corps. No money for #SOPA supporters! Please join me in this.Jan 01 03:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !tzag Well nearly been #2012 for three hours and a half now here, Happy New Years everyone! !Identiverse !IdenticaJan 01 03:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Happy !Mageia year #2012! #MageiaJan 01 03:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Happy #GNU Year to all the #FreeSoftware supporters out there!Jan 01 03:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] RT @kirschner Happy #GNU Year to all the #FreeSoftware supporters out there!Jan 01 03:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jra/@jra] Amazing Cory Doctorow talk on "The coming war on general computation" : http://ur1.ca/74x2l. Thanks to Andreas Schneider for the link !Jan 01 04:25
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formic_Happy new yearJan 01 05:08
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formic_12 months 21 days till the world endsJan 01 05:09
XFaCEformic_: Happy new yearJan 01 05:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzag Identizens. After the unexplained absence a few weeks ago the RMS bot has been back for a while and with a vengeance. Viva RMS.Jan 01 06:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] What did Zac Goldsmith do to annoy RT so much that he gets airtime over such a prolonged period?Jan 01 06:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @osamak: Dear lord, it has been only hours and the Raspberry Pi auction has reached £1,320. http://ur1.ca/74zepJan 01 06:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Raspberry Pi Model B beta board - #10 of a limited series of 10 | eBay .::. Size~: 77.43 KBJan 01 06:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I feel the need for White Stripes.Jan 01 06:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @FawkesNews #NDAA passed, America literally under Martial Law & media could give a shit. Guess Freedom dies with a whimper, not a bangJan 01 07:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Competition in the Olympic games needs an army to reduce cheating. Competition is shite, lets live together and cooperate.Jan 01 07:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Ultimate irony... The Greek OlympicsJan 01 07:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Girl you have no faith in medicine.Jan 01 07:36
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schestowitzhappy new yearJan 01 08:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Watching HMRC getting a well deserved shoeing in front of a select committee. Who will notice?Jan 01 08:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The committee has warned him that he is now under oath, rare and very interesting.Jan 01 08:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Best Desktop Distributions http://ur1.ca/753os #gnu #linuxJan 01 09:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Museifu: Best Desktop Distributions .::. Size~: 56.93 KBJan 01 09:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] GIMX Lets You Control PlayStation 3 Using Linux, Plays Battlefield 3 with Keyboard and Mouse http://goo.gl/uwvAW #ps3 #linuxJan 01 09:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GIMX Lets You Control PlayStation 3 Using Linux, Plays Battlefield 3 with Keyboard and Mouse ~ Ubuntu Vibes .::. Size~: 143.96 KBJan 01 09:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] EA, Sony, Nintendo pull support from SOPA (but their industry association still supports it) http://goo.gl/RpW2E #sopaJan 01 09:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EA, Sony, Nintendo pull support from SOPA (but their industry association still supports it) - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 28.44 KBJan 01 09:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 50 Open Source Technologies / Projects to Look Out For in 2012 http://goo.gl/RBGui #opensourceJan 01 09:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 50 Open Source Technologies / Projects to Look Out For in 2012 .::. Size~: 117.35 KBJan 01 09:23
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/87780308#notice-87915545Jan 01 09:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 13.53 KBJan 01 09:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Gus O'Donnell is performing as the committee was there to meet him. That is how he is.Jan 01 09:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] lol! "Woody Allen Jesus" - http://ur1.ca/75535 #fbJan 01 10:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels nowJan 01 10:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels nowJan 01 10:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] HMRC are resisting the disclosure of corporate tax records to anyone... parliament included.Jan 01 10:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Fatca - The Menace You'll Hear About in 2012 - http://bit.ly/rEP77B "Banks around the world are rejecting Americans as clients or customers"Jan 01 10:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Green's Dictionary of Slang: An Appeal - http://bit.ly/tSwpkH #help needed to make a wonderful resource freely available online #opencontentJan 01 10:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Anonymous 101 Part Deux: Morals Triumph Over Lulz - http://bit.ly/rTJd0Y useful history; shortly to become an ebook, doubtless...Jan 01 10:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Same Platform Used to Develop Stuxnet and Duqu Created other Malware - http://bit.ly/vYe0uA pathetic: the word "#windows" is not used at allJan 01 10:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fatca - The Menace You'll Hear About in 2012 - James Fallows - National - The Atlantic .::. Size~: 121.24 KBJan 01 10:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Language Log » Green’s Dictionary of Slang: An Appeal .::. Size~: 58.6 KBJan 01 10:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Anonymous 101 Part Deux: Morals Triumph Over Lulz | Threat Level | Wired.com .::. Size~: 77.1 KBJan 01 10:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Same Platform Used to Develop Stuxnet and Duqu Created other Malware | SecurityWeek.Com .::. Size~: 39.32 KBJan 01 10:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Diglossia and digraphia in Guoyu-Putonghua and in Hindi-Urdu - http://bit.ly/uoQuHo fascinating comparisons #language #linguisticsJan 01 10:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Language Log » Diglossia and digraphia in Guoyu-Putonghua and in Hindi-Urdu .::. Size~: 58.05 KBJan 01 10:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Detention Without Trial Now in US Law? http://ur1.ca/755ge 2012: year of neofascism?Jan 01 10:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Detention Without Trial Now in US Law?       - YouTube .::. Size~: 151.33 KBJan 01 10:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 01/01/2012: Alien Arena 7.53, Calculate Linux 11.12 http://ur1.ca/755jv #techrightsJan 01 10:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 01/01/2012: Alien Arena 7.53, Calculate Linux 11.12 | Techrights .::. Size~: 102.5 KBJan 01 10:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Just fed my cat uncooked grains of rice and it ate them! :-O Although to be honest, this was the same cat eating paint chips 2 days ago...Jan 01 10:45
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-mrmist-[Global Notice] - With this hour we welcome the New Year for American Samoa- Pago Pago, Niue (Alofi), Midway Islands, Jarvis Isl., Kingman Reef and Palmyra Atoll and that brings most of the populated world into 2012. I hope everyone enjoys a Happy New Year and thank you all for flying freenode!Jan 01 11:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 2011 Gov 2.0 year in review - http://oreil.ly/v5gM2L excellent, detailed review of #opendata #ogov (v @DirDigEng @timoreilly)Jan 01 11:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 2011 Gov 2.0 year in review - O'Reilly Radar .::. Size~: 119.98 KBJan 01 11:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @kirschner Happy #GNU Year to all the #FreeSoftware supporters out there!Jan 01 11:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @glynmoody Green's Dictionary of Slang: An Appeal - http://bit.ly/tSwpkH #help needed to make a wonderful resource freely available o ...Jan 01 11:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Language Log » Green’s Dictionary of Slang: An Appeal .::. Size~: 58.6 KBJan 01 11:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] 2012: Assange: 390 days detained without charge, WikiLeaks: 393 days bank blockade, Manning 587 days military jail https://t.co/OrcGw137Jan 01 11:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] First wish for 2012: FREE BRADLEY MANNING https://t.co/xWcS5ckQJan 01 11:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Happy !GNU Year - or as some of us unofficially name it Hangover Day :DJan 01 12:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Sweden: Wedding ring 'found on carrot' after 16 years - doesn't have the same feel as #TheHobbit but it's a good alternative :DJan 01 12:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] oops, forgot the link http://goo.gl/1JN4C #myprecioussssJan 01 12:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Sweden: Wedding ring 'found on carrot' after 16 years .::. Size~: 61.04 KBJan 01 12:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Apple's #JonathanIve gets knighthood in honours list http://goo.gl/2GPW1 - Jobs is currently fuming in his graveJan 01 12:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Apple's Jonathan Ive gets knighthood in honours list .::. Size~: 74.95 KBJan 01 12:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #RupertMurdoch joins #Twitter? the innovation of lies, deception & bullshit condensed into 140charsJan 01 12:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Under the cover of NYE, Obama declared a type of martial law by signing the NDAA into law, after promising not to https://t.co/xWcS5ckQJan 01 13:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] perhaps not, perhaps so. However, people do it all the time and copyright does not provide protection from this.Jan 01 13:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] please comment on the thought of an approved/unapproved or authorized/unauthorized translation.Jan 01 13:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] And how about considering buying GTA04? !openmoko !fso http://ur1.ca/75auaJan 01 14:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Happy New Year! Send an open source e-card to your friends | red.ht/vHViDBJan 01 14:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] This does not need to be shown for this class of work and that class of work. It is people who need freedom. (saying it again)Jan 01 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Video: Ron Paul furious about indefinite detention act (NDAA) https://t.co/rr812kyjJan 01 14:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] You seem to be buying into the thought "the default should be non-freedom, that freedom needs to be justified". It is the other way around.Jan 01 14:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] What Could Have Entered the Public Domain on January 1, 2012? - http://bit.ly/vSh0G4 the scandal of the real #copyright theft - from #PDJan 01 14:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Aurorae - http://bit.ly/uoQE2g put this in HD, full screen, sit back, enjoy...Jan 01 14:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Kyrgyz Jet Crash – a Miracle in Osh - http://bit.ly/v5ZzsH hmm, you're doing it wrong...Jan 01 14:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Video: Friends of WikiLeaks action group https://t.co/sUZOtETQJan 01 15:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "jelly roll" morton is finally free - http://bit.ly/t0iAEZ & if you don't know what a "jelly roll" is, best not to ask #public domain #jazzJan 01 15:03
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iophkhttp://boingboing.net/2011/12/30/now-more-than-ever-its-time.htmlJan 01 15:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Video: o Haiti e a missão da ONU http://t.co/N8Itkv3pJan 01 15:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Dramatic Growth of #OpenAccess - http://bit.ly/vS85Jx lots of hopeful stats; onward & upward #oaJan 01 15:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Imaginary Journal of Poetic Economics: Happy 2012 Open Access Movement! December 31, 2011 Dramatic Growth of Open Access. .::. Size~: 129.68 KBJan 01 15:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Can ugly babies save museums? - http://bit.ly/sWp8Qb nice post #art #tumblrJan 01 15:35
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DaemonFCOpera/9.80 (Android 3.2.1; Linux; Opera Tablet/ADR-1111101157; U; en) Presto/2.9.201 Version/11.50Jan 01 15:38
DaemonFC:-) Jan 01 15:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Zut Alors! French Government Deny BitTorrent Piracy Allegations - http://bit.ly/tplgal & thus undermines the whole of #HADOPIJan 01 15:38
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DaemonFCBut if you add Firefox somewhere, my bank site worksJan 01 15:38
DaemonFCBloatzilla Chromifox ExplorerJan 01 15:39
DaemonFCPain in the assJan 01 15:39
DaemonFCOpera is so much betterJan 01 15:39
DaemonFCI had to write a userscript for opera mobile so if the site matches my bank it replies Firefox 9 followed by a nasty messageJan 01 15:40
DaemonFCBut that lets me log inJan 01 15:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #China market: Handset makers form alliance to counter possible patent infringement lawsuits - http://bit.ly/ut7VSi now *that's* a cool moveJan 01 15:46
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roy_hi DaemonFCJan 01 15:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Proposed law prohibits TSA employees from dressing like cops http://identi.ca/url/63597210Jan 01 15:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @Asher_Wolf: Now that @rupertmurdoch is on Twitter, everyone can ask him if he bugged their voicemail & email #hackgateJan 01 15:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #China's tomb raiders laying waste to thousands of years of history - http://bit.ly/uDW61J depressing #archaeologyJan 01 15:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @jimray: Nobel Peace Prize winner signs law allowing indefinite detention, without trial, of "enemy combatants". Happy New Year!Jan 01 15:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Disservice http://ur1.ca/75dl3 Another reminder of why MSFT is decliningJan 01 15:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #OpenLogic Enters the Fog http://ur1.ca/75dpp #microsoft foss #fogcomputingJan 01 16:00
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DaemonFCI admire the tsa, it gives a step up in wages for all the people that would be bagging groceries and asking if I wanted friesJan 01 16:03
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DaemonFCGood morning RoyJan 01 16:11
roy_How was Christmas in Land of the Brave?Jan 01 16:13
DaemonFCIt came and wentJan 01 16:14
DaemonFCAnother year where gays, Muslims, and Obama failed to destroy itJan 01 16:14
DaemonFC-grandmaJan 01 16:14
DaemonFC:-) Jan 01 16:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Over on Google+ - Microsoft.....remember them? ;) http://goo.gl/bFYUw #microsoftJan 01 16:18
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roy_DaemonFC: why destroy it?Jan 01 16:19
roy_hck, let nobody destory xmasJan 01 16:19
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schestowitzit can be 'hijacked', like the church stole it from the Oagan traditionJan 01 16:19
schestowitzOf course I kid, but a lot of the ceremony was just redressed as religious very long after (hundreds of years) after the calcification and it can, in theory, be a global holiday where everyone takes a breakJan 01 16:20
DaemonFCAttempts to fix the calandar fail without the cultists approvalJan 01 16:22
schestowitzfix how?Jan 01 16:23
DaemonFCI don't see their holidays to be at riskJan 01 16:23
schestowitzI thought a decimal calendar would be niceJan 01 16:23
DaemonFCHas to be a 7 day weekJan 01 16:23
schestowitzalong with a truly decimal timing systemJan 01 16:23
DaemonFCOr they throw a fitJan 01 16:23
schestowitzstart with something universal like Earth's diameterJan 01 16:23
schestowitzMaybe a revolution around own axisJan 01 16:23
schestowitzslide that down to make a second unitJan 01 16:23
schestowitzthen make a unit for 10 secondsJan 01 16:24
schestowitz100 seconds etc.Jan 01 16:24
schestowitzmakes everything much more simple mathematicallyJan 01 16:24
DaemonFCCan they keep the SabbathJan 01 16:24
DaemonFCLolJan 01 16:24
schestowitzmaybe with a special ovenJan 01 16:24
schestowitzthat has "Sabbath mode"Jan 01 16:24
schestowitzLOLJan 01 16:24
Diablo-D3=|Jan 01 16:26
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/debweb207/statuses/153445538707152897Jan 01 16:26
TechrightsBot-tr@debweb207: @schestowitz You've been quoted in my @Storify story: "(Pseudo) Nym Wars - Identity, Privacy and Freedom of Speech" http://t.co/4eyOpA3AJan 01 16:26
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schestowitzSabbath mode is where you can coo a pig in 5 minutesJan 01 16:26
schestowitz*cookJan 01 16:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] I'm sorry to say it, but Diaspora for me is becoming more inhibiting than G+ (constant issues).... #diaspora #googleplusJan 01 16:26
DaemonFCChanging isps next monthJan 01 16:33
DaemonFCFtth at same price is 3 times faster with no capsJan 01 16:33
DaemonFCNo modemJan 01 16:33
schestowitzhow come?Jan 01 16:33
DaemonFCDontneed a modem with itJan 01 16:34
schestowitzwireless?Jan 01 16:34
schestowitzdirect to wall?Jan 01 16:34
DaemonFCJust Ethernet cable from the wall to the routerJan 01 16:34
schestowitzEthernet?Jan 01 16:34
DaemonFCThat's what they saidJan 01 16:35
DaemonFCAt&t is gouging meJan 01 16:35
DaemonFCAnd now they added a capJan 01 16:35
DaemonFCLast strawJan 01 16:36
DaemonFCThey must be trying to get rid of customersJan 01 16:36
DaemonFCTheir cap is a hundred gb a month less than ComcastJan 01 16:36
schestowitzThey are protected by the FedsJan 01 16:36
schestowitzand I see you abandoned comcastJan 01 16:37
DaemonFCAnd metronet doesn't have a capJan 01 16:37
schestowitzchose the other side of the duopoly in your areaJan 01 16:37
schestowitzchoice... godblessJan 01 16:37
DaemonFCI'm ditching this shit when I get paid againJan 01 16:37
schestowitzmetronet could be crapJan 01 16:37
schestowitzlike talktalk in the UKJan 01 16:37
DaemonFCFuck at&tJan 01 16:37
schestowitzLow prices, good policy, god-awful service and qualityJan 01 16:37
schestowitz!google at and t peral jam bushJan 01 16:38
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - News | Pearl Jam - Ten Club | http://www.pearljam.com/newsJan 01 16:38
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - AT&T Edits Pearl Jam's Bush-Bashing Lyrics From Webcast | Fox ... | http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,292773,00.htmlJan 01 16:38
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Pearl Jam censored by AT&T, calls for a neutral 'Net | http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2007/08/pearl-jam-censored-by-att-calls-for-a-neutral-net.arsJan 01 16:38
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - AT&T Cuts Anti-Bush Lyrics From Pearl Jam Webcast | Billboard.com | http://www.billboard.com/news/at-t-cuts-anti-bush-lyrics-from-pearl-jam-1003623607.storyJan 01 16:38
DaemonFCMetronets tos has most of the same nonsense as at&TSJan 01 16:38
DaemonFCNo Mafia deal thoughJan 01 16:38
schestowitzhow does that affect you?Jan 01 16:39
DaemonFCAnd their policy is to make law enforcement present a valid warrant before handing them your dataJan 01 16:39
DaemonFCAtt just gives it to themJan 01 16:39
DaemonFCFor askingJan 01 16:39
DaemonFCWhat's the point of the first and fourth amendments when your ISP won't protect youJan 01 16:40
schestowitzdiaspora is down againJan 01 16:40
schestowitzwhat a pile of failJan 01 16:41
schestowitzjojndisapora anywayJan 01 16:41
DaemonFCThe interpretation is that att paying and logging what you do makes it their dataJan 01 16:41
DaemonFCNot yoursJan 01 16:41
DaemonFCSpyingJan 01 16:41
schestowitzBT does that same, or at least tried toJan 01 16:41
schestowitzWith Phorm=former BT execs IIRCJan 01 16:41
abeNd-orgthe great thing about that, is you pay to be spied upon!Jan 01 16:41
schestowitzDPI in general has grown quite popularJan 01 16:42
abeNd-orgyou could just choose a different service provider, or none at allJan 01 16:42
schestowitzno, that ought to be illegalJan 01 16:42
schestowitzAnd there was a debate about it hereJan 01 16:42
schestowitzOrJan 01 16:42
schestowitzOpt out by defaultJan 01 16:42
DaemonFCI use SSL for sensitive stuffJan 01 16:42
schestowitzIOW, maybe you can get freebies for choosing to be part of an experiment that studies what you doJan 01 16:42
schestowitzDaemonFC: what about pages that are http?Jan 01 16:43
schestowitzand those that do not offer httpsJan 01 16:43
DaemonFCI try to avoid themJan 01 16:43
schestowitzBanks all use encrypted trafficJan 01 16:43
schestowitzbut some other sites and ones with vital info do not support encJan 01 16:44
DaemonFCYeah, not that this protects you from so called sneak and peakJan 01 16:44
schestowitzThe Net was not well build for privacyJan 01 16:45
schestowitzstarting with DNS that has root serversJan 01 16:45
schestowitzbut...Jan 01 16:45
schestowitzthe Web was built to be resilient to total annihilation like nuclear warsJan 01 16:46
schestowitznot the same thingJan 01 16:46
schestowitzand it means everything is excessively connected but not inter-dependent, not strictlyJan 01 16:46
schestowitzSo both the ISP, the line rental/owner, the DNS, the web site... and more can spy on usersJan 01 16:47
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DaemonFCMesh networking would be betterJan 01 16:47
DaemonFCWith strong encryptionJan 01 16:47
DaemonFCAnd every node acting as a repeaterJan 01 16:47
schestowitzIt coud happen but won't happenJan 01 16:47
schestowitzit's portrayed as anarchy by people in powerJan 01 16:48
schestowitzthey would use "paedophilia" and "terrorism" against thatJan 01 16:48
schestowitzAs though people cannot use USB sticks and vocal chords for thatJan 01 16:48
schestowitzeven printersJan 01 16:48
schestowitzFacebook is their wet dreamsJan 01 16:48
schestowitzIt centralises a lot of trafficJan 01 16:48
schestowitzprofiling Jan 01 16:48
schestowitzconnectionJan 01 16:49
schestowitzsearchJan 01 16:49
schestowitzwhat articles one views and also "likes"Jan 01 16:49
schestowitzthey managed to tame the "interwebz"Jan 01 16:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Better Side of Novell http://ur1.ca/75ex2 #novell #suse #opensuse #gnu #linuxJan 01 16:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] well, that's a turn up.....all the top teams dropping points in the same round !footballJan 01 16:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How to Install Firefox 10 in Ubuntu 11.10 and 11.04 http://goo.gl/dH8NX #ubuntu #firefoxJan 01 16:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New distribution from Dreamlinux Project http://ur1.ca/75ez7Jan 01 16:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @schestowitz New distribution from Dreamlinux Project http://ur1.ca/75ez7Jan 01 16:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @schestowitz The Better Side of Novell http://ur1.ca/75ex2 #novell #suse #opensuse #gnu #linuxJan 01 16:58
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1114307Jan 01 17:00
TechrightsBot-tr@: Jan 01 17:00
schestowitz"Jan 01 17:00
schestowitzYou mean Maemo and Meego ?Jan 01 17:00
schestowitzCommunity has always been able to use'em to free their devices, so were openmoko, so will be webOs.Jan 01 17:00
schestowitzSymbian is always described as bad, but in fact it's a far more interesting OS than linux for low-end devices (better battery managment, more convincing scheduler for this kind of HW)Jan 01 17:00
schestowitzAnyway Google cures evil with evil. Dong right first would have been enough for me.Jan 01 17:00
schestowitz"Jan 01 17:00
zoobabhiJan 01 17:07
schestowitzhelloJan 01 17:08
zoobabare you going to fosdem?Jan 01 17:08
schestowitznope, I never doJan 01 17:12
zoobabokJan 01 17:12
zoobabtrying xbmc nowJan 01 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ron Paul Opposes #SOPA http://ur1.ca/75fjf #monopolyJan 01 17:16
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schestowitzhttp://www.muktware.com/articles/3161/kazaam-screencaster-use-vp8-drops-x264Jan 01 17:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Happy GNU Year! http://ur1.ca/74zb9 #gnu #fsf #freeswJan 01 17:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Wikipedia To Dump GoDaddy Over SOPA 197 http://ur1.ca/72pk9Jan 01 17:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Public Money for Public Purpose: Toward the End of Plutocracy and the Triumph of Democracy - Part Six http://goo.gl/TwvyM #corruptionJan 01 17:25
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MinceRsymbian is so interestingJan 01 17:25
MinceRhow it manages to be so closed and how it manages to crash every time an app asks for more memory than usualJan 01 17:26
zoobabI have  machine with 2 VGA carsJan 01 17:26
zoobabcardsJan 01 17:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Awesome Tapes from #Africa - http://bit.ly/t3pApz wow, they are, too: the coolest music site on the Net?Jan 01 17:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Miracle of Solvency http://ur1.ca/75fqg #finance #opedJan 01 17:26
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schestowitzlol cars way coolJan 01 17:27
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zoobabany idea how to specify to the kernel to output its messages on the first card with some pci arg?Jan 01 17:27
schestowitztell you lolcat to /cat/ itJan 01 17:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Extremadura dropping Linex http://ur1.ca/75fy2Jan 01 17:33
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schestowitzDaemonFC is a cat expert. man cat... pigJan 01 17:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @glynmoody "jelly roll" morton is finally free - http://bit.ly/t0iAEZ & if you don't know what a "jelly roll" is, best not to ask #pu ...Jan 01 17:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Public domain day everywhere in the world except the US. Outrageous! http://is.gd/Y3xMnP /via @parlementumJan 01 17:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I can't believe I've done it again - forgotten to back up my list of favourite !irc channels - every time I forgetJan 01 18:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Viewpoint: #Samsung risks following #Sony and #IBM's slide http://goo.gl/5SlVrJan 01 18:30
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iophkhttp://www.law.duke.edu/cspd/publicdomaindayJan 01 18:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] So the #tassebier #28C3 afterparty was #Dubstep and #Electroswing all around. The former - meh, doesn't get to me; the latter, though... :)Jan 01 19:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @kallekn: Did Russian Civil Society Wake Up In 2011? - ur1.ca/75hmxJan 01 19:01
schestowitzdoes someone here know redirect (permanent) in  dns?Jan 01 19:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[faither/@faither] Happy !GNU year everyone.Jan 01 19:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @faither: Happy #GNU year everyone.Jan 01 19:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is satipera from identi.ca with 87 dents!Jan 01 19:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 9/11: A Conspiracy Theory - YouTube - #911 #corbett http://ur1.ca/75ifsJan 01 19:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @telecomix: Charles Dent Wants to Take Away Your US Citizenship ur1.ca/75ifcJan 01 19:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @lnxwalt My plans to improve your physical appearence with a red #debian swirl on a thing as #copyright. Maybe not in the bathJan 01 20:00
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schestowitzDaemonFC: hey, still preparing for lynch mob takeover?Jan 01 20:17
DaemonFCMehJan 01 20:17
DaemonFCI don't careJan 01 20:18
schestowitzYou gave upJan 01 20:18
schestowitzObama 2012Jan 01 20:18
DaemonFCPeople are such hypocrites that Dawn gets a passJan 01 20:18
schestowitzGo Bama go! No?Jan 01 20:18
DaemonFCWhile I get assholes telling me god hates meJan 01 20:18
DaemonFC:-) Jan 01 20:18
schestowitzshe doesJan 01 20:19
schestowitzyou're not her typeJan 01 20:19
MrFhey Roy have you figured out where your gonna go in the next 24 hours yet:)Jan 01 20:22
MrFbefore the cash machines go down etc etc:)Jan 01 20:22
DaemonFCDrunk that beats her, so she calls the cops, beats on my door crying about it,  and moves him back in the next dayJan 01 20:23
DaemonFCI fit in there, I tell her to fuck offJan 01 20:23
DaemonFCThrough the doorJan 01 20:23
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DaemonFCI wish the cops would arrest her for wasting their timeJan 01 20:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 2011 Worst Police Misconduct Video of the Year Reader's Poll « Injustice Everywhere - #world #policestate http://goo.gl/J9YaXJan 01 20:25
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MrFRoy, are you romancing, shall i come back later?Jan 01 20:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 2012: Year of the World Government | Adrian Salbuchi - #nwo #tptb http://goo.gl/6zkQxJan 01 20:28
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schestowitz[20:22] <MrF> hey Roy have you figured out where your gonna go in the next 24 hours yet:)Jan 01 20:37
schestowitzhheJan 01 20:37
schestowitzhypothetical scenarios?Jan 01 20:37
_GoblinHey!Jan 01 20:42
schestowitzHey mateJan 01 20:43
schestowitzCan you send a photo some time for preparation for season 2? Also, Gordon has a new show with Kevie, they call it Crivins and it's quite nice.Jan 01 20:43
_Goblinyep....Ive gotta sort itJan 01 20:44
_Goblinhows 2012 going so far...see you've picked up a new user already! Hello MrF!Jan 01 20:44
schestowitzi'll put a lot of effort into this one, looking forward to it :-)Jan 01 20:44
schestowitzno, MrF is a friend from hereJan 01 20:44
schestowitzhe was Mr. Fitness several timesJan 01 20:44
_Goblinah..... not a new addition?Jan 01 20:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @glynmoody What Could Have Entered the Public Domain on January 1, 2012? - http://bit.ly/vSh0G4 the scandal of the real #copyright th ...Jan 01 20:45
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schestowitz_Goblin: maybe to IRCJan 01 20:45
_Goblinexcellent!Jan 01 20:45
_GoblinDiaspora seems down yet again...Jan 01 20:47
_Goblinoh no...its up...Jan 01 20:47
schestowitzit's a mssJan 01 20:48
schestowitzbeen like this for two weeks, up and downJan 01 20:48
schestowitzthey pull an identicaJan 01 20:48
_Goblinyeah.......shame....Jan 01 20:48
schestowitzmaybe other pods are moe reliableJan 01 20:48
_Goblinironic that as far as i'm concerned, its free and open ethos is actually more inhibiting than G+Jan 01 20:48
_GoblinI own my data, yet I don't have the freedom to express it.....Jan 01 20:49
schestowitzah, I see your pointJan 01 20:58
schestowitzwell, for g+ there are other issuesJan 01 20:58
schestowitzbut facebook does more scary thingsJan 01 20:58
schestowitzas a company, not just a platformJan 01 20:58
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DaemonFCZuckerbergJan 01 21:08
DaemonFCIs watching you masturbateJan 01 21:08
DaemonFCLikeJan 01 21:08
DaemonFC:-) Jan 01 21:08
schestowitzHeheJan 01 21:08
schestowitzDon't be a dumb walrusJan 01 21:09
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DaemonFCI switched from IMO to trillianJan 01 21:09
DaemonFCTrillian has ads but the app is much betterJan 01 21:09
schestowitzIn Soviet Russia, Zuckerberg ******s YOUJan 01 21:09
DaemonFCIMO is full of bugsJan 01 21:10
schestowitzis niceJan 01 21:10
DaemonFCThere was an app that claimed to remove ads from the free appsJan 01 21:10
MinceRBitlBee has no ads :>Jan 01 21:11
DaemonFCI may go looking for thatJan 01 21:11
MinceRit's an irc/im gatewayJan 01 21:11
schestowitznow getaway?Jan 01 21:13
schestowitzMinceR: Facebook is IRC/IM/blogging for n00bsJan 01 21:13
schestowitzThey have some kids under 10 in thereJan 01 21:14
schestowitzAnd Zuckie  can watch them and report them if they "ASL, wanna cyber?"Jan 01 21:14
DaemonFC14 f totallynotacoplulz111Jan 01 21:15
MinceRyour location is "totally not a cop"? :>Jan 01 21:16
DaemonFCTotallyJan 01 21:16
schestowitzLike, srly?Jan 01 21:17
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schestowitz14/f/meJan 01 21:17
schestowitzDawn, 45/f/Huntington, wanna shave?Jan 01 21:18
DaemonFCIf god didn't want 14 year old girls offering blowjobs for an iPod, he wouldn't have made 12chanJan 01 21:18
DaemonFCEnd of debate :-) Jan 01 21:18
schestowitzRyan, 26/m/Huntington, wanna shootout?Jan 01 21:18
DaemonFC27Jan 01 21:18
schestowitzYour mom lied to youJan 01 21:18
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schestowitzshe had you before marriageJan 01 21:19
schestowitzconception led to the latter :-)Jan 01 21:19
DaemonFCThey were married in 1974Jan 01 21:19
DaemonFCIf they lied, that would mean 10 years of my life I can't recall and that I am 37 or 38 as wellJan 01 21:20
DaemonFC:-) Jan 01 21:20
DaemonFCThis one is gay, try againJan 01 21:22
DaemonFCThis one is more disappointing than the first, fuck.....Jan 01 21:22
DaemonFC:-) Jan 01 21:22
schestowitzmany parents try thrice these daysJan 01 21:26
schestowitzBut not in EuropeJan 01 21:26
schestowitzThe first does what the parents wantsJan 01 21:26
schestowitzthe second tries to distinguish her/himselfJan 01 21:26
schestowitzAnd the third - that's just in case the patents lost hope in the first couple :-)Jan 01 21:27
schestowitzwhen you have 10, then you're probably some ultra-religious coupleJan 01 21:27
schestowitzin which case, your value for life (at the extremes) is often low, you just try to spread the faith by adopting a state-sponsored baby machineJan 01 21:27
schestowitzWhen it comes to children, sometimes less is moreJan 01 21:28
schestowitzand more affluent families rarely choose to have 10 kids. It's a family, not a kindergartenJan 01 21:28
MrFMolst of my colleagues have kids, there's only a few of us that have held out till now without them.Jan 01 21:29
schestowitz"Array of baby machine... incoming, clear the alley"Jan 01 21:29
MrFthey seem depressingly self satisfiedJan 01 21:29
schestowitzthey have toJan 01 21:29
schestowitz"it's all about the kids"Jan 01 21:29
schestowitz!google carlin on kidsJan 01 21:29
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - RIP George Carlin - Kids - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DyIXlwYoOV9kJan 01 21:29
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - GEORGE CARLIN - ON KIDS - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DJdrDYwo1YTAJan 01 21:29
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - "Help the children, save the children, protect the children." You know ... | http://harmful.cat-v.org/society/children/fuck_the_childrenJan 01 21:29
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - George Carlin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_CarlinJan 01 21:29
schestowitzwe are in a kids-obsessed sociretyJan 01 21:30
schestowitz"Think of the parents"? LOL, surely NOT!Jan 01 21:30
MinceRobsessed with making more of them, that isJan 01 21:30
schestowitzWomen and children first.... but the Titanic teachrs otherwiseJan 01 21:30
schestowitzMinceR: we depend on making kidsJan 01 21:30
MinceRi don'tJan 01 21:31
MinceRhttp://images.teamsugar.com/files/upl1/1/13255/16_2008/licenseplate.jpgJan 01 21:31
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schestowitzBut not on growing the population size, just sutaining it or bringing it down to sustainable levels (sustainable for Earth, not economically sustainable to us\)Jan 01 21:31
MrFi suppose for some having kids is a shortcut to the kind of self affirmation they could never get in their career or otherwise...for others...they may just be bored...Jan 01 21:31
schestowitz!google titanic women and children firstJan 01 21:31
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Amazon.com: Titanic: Women and Children First (9780393046663 ... | http://www.amazon.com/Titanic-Children-Judith-B-Geller/dp/0393046664Jan 01 21:31
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Women and children first (saying) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_and_children_first_(saying)Jan 01 21:31
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Titanic - Women And Children First! | http://www.logoi.com/notes/titanic/women_children_first.htmlJan 01 21:31
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Women and children first on the Titanic but not the Lusitania ... | http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/mar/02/titanic-lusitania-women-children-survivalJan 01 21:31
MinceRfor orban, it's the hope of more slaves to exploit in the futureJan 01 21:31
MinceRhe can't feed them thoughJan 01 21:32
MrFroy, too many links, got to keep the dialogue goingJan 01 21:32
MrFmore ants in the machineJan 01 21:32
MrFlabour is our greatest resourceJan 01 21:32
MrFand china'sJan 01 21:32
schestowitzchina is a labour campJan 01 21:32
schestowitzof sortsJan 01 21:32
schestowitzbutJan 01 21:33
schestowitzWe pretend they are happyJan 01 21:33
schestowitzThey put a Mickey mouse face on that stuff they makeJan 01 21:33
schestowitz"make a Mickey... or we put you in PRISON"Jan 01 21:33
schestowitzChina is like a manufacuring department in the World FactoryJan 01 21:33
schestowitzUS+EU is management and mid-managementJan 01 21:34
MrFKids are cute no doubt but they are not compulsory and they can be damned hard workJan 01 21:34
schestowitzAfrica is resourcesJan 01 21:34
MrFpooing all ove the shopJan 01 21:34
MinceRlabor is overratedJan 01 21:34
MrFwaking you upJan 01 21:34
schestowitzwhen they stop waking you up they ask for college fundingJan 01 21:35
schestowitzand then they vanishJan 01 21:35
schestowitzthey contact the oparents only when they need somethingJan 01 21:35
MrFjust like you ROy:)Jan 01 21:35
schestowitzNo, not reallyJan 01 21:35
schestowitzI didn't wake em upJan 01 21:35
schestowitzBut the same seem to apply in many casesJan 01 21:35
MrFthats because you've 'vanished'Jan 01 21:35
schestowitznoJan 01 21:36
schestowitzI mean as kidsJan 01 21:36
schestowitzLittle kidsJan 01 21:36
schestowitzesp. babiesJan 01 21:36
schestowitzwaking the patents upJan 01 21:36
schestowitzSee what happened to fabio. Lost all the rigour when his daughter was bornJan 01 21:36
schestowitzAnd he admits this, tooJan 01 21:36
MrFthey suck the life out of youJan 01 21:36
MrFi've heardJan 01 21:36
schestowitzThey grow biggerJan 01 21:37
schestowitzbut at whose expense?Jan 01 21:37
schestowitzThe problem is, there is peer pressureJan 01 21:37
schestowitzmarketingJan 01 21:37
schestowitzand the hostility ti gay agenda is, IMHO, part of itJan 01 21:37
MrFbut many will argue it is our fundamental role to fulfil the ethos of life, others will say, too much hard work...no thanksJan 01 21:37
schestowitzPeople cannot be financially enslaved easily if they don't have children and mortgagesJan 01 21:37
schestowitzone necessitates the otherJan 01 21:38
schestowitzTo many in the Religious Nation (US), the gay liifestyle defies the PRJan 01 21:38
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MrFwell you have less room to manoeuvre if you have a mortgage and kids and therefore more compliant to those in chargeJan 01 21:38
MrFmore to loseJan 01 21:38
schestowitzIt does not comply with the model life of, "grow, eat, get indocrrinatred, work, take mortgage, work hard, die quickly"Jan 01 21:38
schestowitzI forgot "shop"Jan 01 21:39
MrFso take fewer risks in defying the status quoJan 01 21:39
MrFmore to loseJan 01 21:39
schestowitzRightJan 01 21:39
schestowitzsome people 'hacked' the systemJan 01 21:39
schestowitzthey find the loophole called "critical thinking"Jan 01 21:39
schestowitzAnd they realised that what TV shows as "good lifestyle" is just, well... a lifestyle.. and not necessarily good for allJan 01 21:40
schestowitzIt's good for some, generalisations are risky to makeJan 01 21:40
schestowitzAnalogy: middle class people renting a limo to feel as though they live the lifestyle of another, going broke in the processJan 01 21:40
schestowitzhat tip: Adam MarshallJan 01 21:41
MrFi was gonna say....poor people spending fucking fortunes on getting married....dumb fucksJan 01 21:43
MrFsorryJan 01 21:43
MrFthese are just the early consequences of the ever evolving social engineering constructJan 01 21:44
MrFcattleJan 01 21:45
MrFend gameJan 01 21:45
MrFGoyimJan 01 21:45
MrFwhy bother with profit when they can breed us to do it all for freeJan 01 21:46
schestowitz[21:43] <MrF> i was gonna say....poor people spending fucking fortunes on getting married....dumb fucksJan 01 21:47
schestowitz!goole dumb fucksJan 01 21:47
schestowitz!google dumb fucksJan 01 21:47
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Well, These New Zuckerberg IMs Won't Help Facebook's Privacy ... | http://www.businessinsider.com/well-these-new-zuckerberg-ims-wont-help-facebooks-privacy-problems-2010-5Jan 01 21:47
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Facebook CEO Admits To Calling Users 'Dumb Fucks' | http://gawker.com/5636765/facebook-ceo-admits-to-calling-users-dumb-fucksJan 01 21:47
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Facebook founder called trusting users dumb f*cks • The Register | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/14/facebook_trust_dumb/Jan 01 21:47
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - DUMB FUCKS - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D6zOylXW_bHoJan 01 21:47
schestowitzThat's what Zuckerbberg called facebook usersJan 01 21:47
schestowitz[21:44] <MrF> these are just the early consequences of the ever evolving social engineering constructJan 01 21:47
schestowitzSadly, the ones most repressed by society are also most gullible and desperation plays into itJan 01 21:48
schestowitzMatrimony pushes the weak further into the ditchJan 01 21:48
DaemonFCThousands of dollars for a wedding only seems like a lotJan 01 21:50
DaemonFCIts just a down payment on a divorce usuallyJan 01 21:50
schestowitzI was explaining to MrF at the streets today, I reckon the marriage and all is cheapJan 01 21:51
schestowitzRing, wedding dinner, dress, honey moon.Jan 01 21:51
schestowitzCompared to:Jan 01 21:51
schestowitzPotentially: Alimony, distress for yearsJan 01 21:51
DaemonFCLawyers, alimony, child support.....Jan 01 21:51
schestowitzYeah, lots more expensive than weddingJan 01 21:51
schestowitzBut it works in installmentsJan 01 21:51
DaemonFCHer taking all your stuffJan 01 21:51
schestowitz alimony, child support..Jan 01 21:51
schestowitzmonthly usuallyJan 01 21:52
DaemonFCLeaving you with the billsJan 01 21:52
schestowitzWill that be by credit card or straight out of your paycheck, sir?Jan 01 21:52
DaemonFCGet to see your own kids every other weekendJan 01 21:52
schestowitzand they hate youJan 01 21:52
schestowitzcause their other patent incited them against youyJan 01 21:52
schestowitzso it's like thanks but no thanks sometimesJan 01 21:52
schestowitzThere's no fair time share thereJan 01 21:53
schestowitzBut apart from that, it's greatJan 01 21:53
schestowitzYou can have sex 5000 times with the same partnerJan 01 21:53
schestowitzeven when the partner turns 50Jan 01 21:54
DaemonFCYou don't need marriage to have sexJan 01 21:54
schestowitzquite expensive if you ask me, but who am I to say?Jan 01 21:54
palmer1I heard about Suckerberg ref the dumb effers commentJan 01 21:54
*palmer1 is now known as DDRPJan 01 21:54
schestowitzprurigro: the reg has an article on it that;'s ranked high in Google. He SMSed it IIRCJan 01 21:54
schestowitzThe sociopath in his own words... join the socia[l|opath]Jan 01 21:55
DDRPHow come he has private photos if he believes his own propaganda?Jan 01 21:56
schestowitzIf Facebook was a pyramin/MLM sceheme, Suckie would be at the top... Goldman Sachs are some of his biggest investorsJan 01 21:56
schestowitzAnd MS owns 15% of the copany or 5% IIRCJan 01 21:56
*DDRP deleted his accountJan 01 21:56
schestowitzmaybe he pulled a wiener (Antony Wiener)Jan 01 21:56
*schestowitz deleted several facebook accounts for peopleJan 01 21:57
schestowitzA kitten was born each time :-)Jan 01 21:57
DDRPHow come they couldn't do it themselves?Jan 01 21:57
schestowitzand a real walking human being distanced self from another monitor full of gossip and ego tripsJan 01 21:57
schestowitzDDRP: Facebook makes it super hardJan 01 21:58
schestowitzor used toJan 01 21:58
schestowitzyou have to take a URLJan 01 21:58
schestowitzAnd then paste it into the browserJan 01 21:58
schestowitzaJan 01 21:58
schestowitza gidden featureJan 01 21:58
DDRPTru, but there's an easy way to do it via this site: http://www.deletefacebook.com/#Jan 01 21:58
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schestowitzfacebook lets people disable their account, not delete them, unless they know how to (in which case they still keep historical data)Jan 01 21:58
schestowitzThere should be a deletegoogle.comJan 01 21:59
schestowitzFor deleting one's own data corresponding to cookie/loginJan 01 21:59
DDRPPersonally, I had more of a problem with my family being able to keep tabs on me via Facebook =D  and people adding me at work, and all the issues that can causeJan 01 22:01
DaemonFCMicrosoft only owns 1.3% of FacebookJan 01 22:10
schestowitzMaybe it sold some stake awayJan 01 22:11
schestowitz!google 2007 microsoft buys facebookJan 01 22:11
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Facebook - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FacebookJan 01 22:12
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Microsoft to Pay $240 Million for Stake in Facebook - New York Times | http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/25/technology/24cnd-facebook.htmlJan 01 22:12
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Facebook Takes the Microsoft Money And Runs. | TechCrunch | http://techcrunch.com/2007/10/24/facebook-takes-the-microsoft-money-and-runs/Jan 01 22:12
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Microsoft Buys Facebook Stake - InternetNews. | http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/article.php/3707121/Microsoft%2BBuys%2BFacebook%2BStake.htmJan 01 22:12
schestowitzit says 1.6%Jan 01 22:12
DDRPSeems like a good investment, as long as you sell before the crash.  Murdoch failed that one by buying up stick in MySpace =DJan 01 22:13
DDRPs/stick/stock/Jan 01 22:13
schestowitzhttp://www.brobible.com/bronews/story/goldman-buys-one-percent-of-50b-facebookJan 01 22:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Goldman Buys 1 Percent of $50B Facebook; Actor Postlethwaite Dead at 64 - BroBible.com .::. Size~: 50.55 KBJan 01 22:13
schestowitzMurdoch did us a favour with this oneJan 01 22:13
schestowitzMySpace begged to be killed, but the stuff it emitted just found new places... not 4chan, probably FBJan 01 22:14
schestowitzRupe drove MySpace over the edge, let's hope he buys Facebook (as though he could) :-)Jan 01 22:14
schestowitzHe turned the Fox Network into a laughing stockJan 01 22:14
schestowitzhe kills NOTWJan 01 22:14
DDRPMust be losing his touch >=)  (silly old goat)Jan 01 22:15
schestowitzFox Network gets views for being a tabloid, no person in the US (with some credence) can take it seriously anymore. "Fox" became like "Onion"Jan 01 22:15
schestowitzDDRP: he makes money from it thoughJan 01 22:15
schestowitztabloids make money, they just don't last in people's memory except as a joke, like Hicks and CarlinJan 01 22:16
schestowitzNOTW arcives of 100+ years were rendered comedy... because it became synonymous with the paper's own scandals and violations of the lawJan 01 22:17
schestowitzLike a journal of conference that used to be good... or an institute that used to be good but saw its reputation sink to the gutter in a few last years, so nobody would cite people from the olden days anymore.Jan 01 22:17
schestowitzFrom what I've heard, Fox used to be quite respectable a long time ago. Then it was taken over and partisanship used to draw in an audience, at the expense of the reputtaion that network once had... they killed the goose for its golden eggsJan 01 22:18
DDRPThere's another paper he owns which apparently makes a loss, IIRC?Jan 01 22:19
schestowitzRupe is a goose squeezerJan 01 22:19
schestowitzHe hasn't killed WSJ yetJan 01 22:19
schestowitzNYT is DEEP in debtJan 01 22:19
schestowitzit comptes with RupeJan 01 22:19
DaemonFCWsj is one giant pay wallJan 01 22:20
DaemonFCTheir readers will pay thoughJan 01 22:20
DaemonFCFox noise would marginalize themselves with thatJan 01 22:21
*DDRP never pays via any paywallJan 01 22:22
DDRPWell, I do have a subscription to an internet TV station actuallyJan 01 22:23
schestowitzDDRP: I did some searched aroudn WSJ just nowJan 01 22:23
schestowitzI found nothing to indicate they have debtJan 01 22:24
schestowitzRupe, IIRC, bragged some yars ago about his number of subs thereJan 01 22:24
schestowitzabout a million rich people paying for subs, I guess it's a niche marketJan 01 22:24
DDRPYeah, I don't know anybody who would bother with that.  I guess I also don't know anybody who buys a newspaper.  There is probably is a connection thereJan 01 22:25
schestowitzI recall him saying that if people can make money by reading a paper, they will pay for itJan 01 22:25
schestowitzFrom my experience, WSJ reports quite wellJan 01 22:25
DDRPMake money by reading a paper?Jan 01 22:26
schestowitzlearning the stock marketJan 01 22:26
schestowitzmaybe some inside/early infoJan 01 22:26
schestowitzI had one oif their journalists contact me some months ago, regarding a patent troll I had written about, Jay WalkerJan 01 22:27
DDRPThere was a mention of patent trolls on Radio 4 a couple of months ago, explaining their business 'model' etcJan 01 22:30
DaemonFCThe newspapers are running each other into the groundJan 01 22:31
schestowitzBlogs compete with themJan 01 22:33
schestowitzThey can be faster and no paywalls, eitherJan 01 22:33
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1121129Jan 01 22:35
TechrightsBot-tr@: Jan 01 22:35
schestowitzHas someone watched Insidious, the film?Jan 01 22:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] A nice list of what has been stolen from us - from #PublicDomain - by #copyfraud: ur1.ca/75dbuJan 01 22:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The #FDA Says You Have No Right to Choose Your #Food - #usa #policestate http://goo.gl/2tNwUJan 01 23:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'll have to look for you on Diaspora, @vertexsymphonyJan 01 23:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Make Data Not War ♻ @adiblol: Kolejny film o telecomix.pl i #datalove - w odtwarzaczu #HTML5 (work in progress) http://ur1.ca/75n7t #tcxplJan 01 23:41
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