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schestowitzTerry posted a photo of his wifeJan 03 00:00
schestowitzand Gary allgedly went crazyJan 03 00:00
schestowitzMaybe he was jealous of the wife :-)Jan 03 00:00
schestowitzSo say the Linux AdvocatesJan 03 00:00
_Goblinwhat a wacky world of wintrolls we live inJan 03 00:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Dear !debian, Can I Haz Do Not Track by default in #IceWeasel? #Mozilla says I can't... http://rys.io/en/53 /cc !aptosid !grmlJan 03 00:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Symbolic Pics of the Month (01/12) | The Vigilant Citizen - #xfiles #vc http://goo.gl/OK5dqJan 03 00:04
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schestowitz_Goblin: they are wacky like the company they defendJan 03 00:07
_GoblintrueJan 03 00:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @windley Blog post: Students Loans: Debt Peonage http://is.gd/dJeITnJan 03 00:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Students Loans: Debt Peonage  | Phil Windley's Technometria .::. Size~: 36.87 KBJan 03 00:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] tried to price at $1,000,000.00 but they would not let me.Jan 03 00:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] I want to open a store where every item is priced at a million dollars. Then I can offer attractive discounts & have lots of room to haggle.Jan 03 00:13
schestowitzhttp://mrpogson.com/2012/01/02/solar-power-at-1watt-opens-up-the-rest-of-the-world-to-cheap-it/Jan 03 00:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Solar Power at $1/Watt Opens Up the Rest of the World to Cheap IT at  Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 33.62 KBJan 03 00:16
schestowitzhttp://www.muktware.com/bitsnbytes/3162/ios-continues-lose-web-shareJan 03 00:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: iOS Continues To Lose Web Share | Muktware .::. Size~: 34.68 KBJan 03 00:18
schestowitzcoolJan 03 00:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] A bit shout out today to @steve_evil and his lovely wife Erin - it's their wedding anniversary :-) Congrats guys! #LCA2012Jan 03 00:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] What we want in 2012: @skype and @skypesupport should give users end-to-end encryption verification. https://eff.org/r.5MwJan 03 00:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EFF's 2011 Holiday Wish List | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 30.55 KBJan 03 00:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Wikileaks revealed US espionage of Indigenous Peoples in 2011 | Censored News http://t.co/K75ADjVSJan 03 00:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] A rumour is spreading - at 250 tweets/a minute that Fidel Castro is dead. However there is nothing to back this up presently.Jan 03 01:01
XFaCE"Masonic_Goblin"?Jan 03 01:08
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XFaCEaka Ender?Jan 03 01:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Cubana TV live from Cuba. Presently showing old revolutionary war film: http://t.co/WTdkrM4dJan 03 01:11
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XFaCEOh, of courseJan 03 01:11
XFaCECome on ender, stop being a dickwad and talk constructively in this channel. I know you can do it.Jan 03 01:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Installed a fresh 12.04. Reporting a few new bugs I have seen. #ubuntuJan 03 01:18
schestowitzender's alterego is among usJan 03 01:20
XFaCEschestowitz: Who?Jan 03 01:21
XFaCEetale?Jan 03 01:21
XFaCEformic_?Jan 03 01:21
schestowitzNo, in logsJan 03 01:21
schestowitzhe'll read emJan 03 01:21
XFaCEetale: formic_ if you guys are not, sorry for bothering youJan 03 01:21
schestowitzsay "hi"Jan 03 01:21
XFaCEHi Ender!, ole buddy!Jan 03 01:22
XFaCEschestowitz: I kicked the desu account out one time, hasn't been backJan 03 01:23
schestowitzI gotta get some sleep soonJan 03 01:24
XFaCEschestowitz: Damn time differencesJan 03 01:24
XFaCEschestowitz: Go get 7 hours of sleepJan 03 01:25
XFaCEit's good for youJan 03 01:25
schestowitzGentoo 12.1 LiveDVD has just been releasedJan 03 01:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Gentoo 12.1 LiveDVD Released http://ur1.ca/76oz0 #gnu #linuxJan 03 01:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Gentoo 12.1 LiveDVD Released | Muktware .::. Size~: 35.05 KBJan 03 01:26
schestowitzXFaCE: yeah, around the vacation time I toom 7 on averageJan 03 01:26
schestowitznot 6Jan 03 01:26
XFaCEschestowitz: That's goodJan 03 01:26
schestowitz"Like a boss"Jan 03 01:26
XFaCE7 is the magic minimum numberJan 03 01:26
schestowitzoh, no, not 7Jan 03 01:27
schestowitzMS promo? buzz marketing?Jan 03 01:27
schestowitz7 burger wafers?Jan 03 01:27
XFaCEschestowitz: Yes, and this coming from the pharmacist family memberJan 03 01:27
XFaCEHe doesn't use 7 eitherJan 03 01:27
XFaCE:PJan 03 01:27
XFaCEschestowitz: Get some sleepJan 03 01:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Crivins is a good new show from @thistleweb and @kevie - been enjoying the first 5 episodes http://ur1.ca/76p09Jan 03 01:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Unseen Studio Audiocasts | We don't do DRM .::. Size~: 15.5 KBJan 03 01:29
XFaCEschestowitz: I'd listen to more podcasts, but why do they have to be so friggin long?!Jan 03 01:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻@ccc all 100 recordings are encoded in 5 different formats, since 3h ago! everything done just 3 days after the 28C3, it's a new record :)Jan 03 01:31
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XFaCEjono, good!Jan 03 01:33
XFaCERoy's making this place all stale with talk of sleepJan 03 01:33
XFaCEI'll voice yaJan 03 01:33
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XFaCEjono_: That was closeJan 03 01:34
jono_XFaCE, eh?Jan 03 01:34
XFaCEI though you leftJan 03 01:35
XFaCE*tJan 03 01:35
jono_ahhJan 03 01:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Time for celebration - 4.8 Release Parties http://ur1.ca/75vn9 #kdeJan 03 01:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Time for celebration - 4.8 Release Parties | KDE.news .::. Size~: 12.13 KBJan 03 01:36
XFaCEschestowitz: meh, XFCE has been at 4.8 for a year nowJan 03 01:36
XFaCEjono_: Dedoimedo named Ubuntu the best distro of 2011Jan 03 01:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Year of the Penguin - el Reg's 2011 Linux-land roundup http://ur1.ca/76p9k #linux #gnuJan 03 01:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Year of the Penguin - el Reg's 2011 Linux-land roundup • The Register .::. Size~: 27.28 KBJan 03 01:38
XFaCEjono_: I'm rather shockedJan 03 01:38
jono_coolJan 03 01:38
jono_have to runJan 03 01:38
jono_later!Jan 03 01:38
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schestowitzheheJan 03 01:38
schestowitzWell,, not tired enoughn yetJan 03 01:38
schestowitzso I'll dentJan 03 01:38
schestowitzjono always has to run when people talk to himJan 03 01:39
XFaCEschestowitz: How about you listen to all techbytes episodes back to back?Jan 03 01:39
XFaCE:PJan 03 01:39
schestowitzI listened t o some for the tracksJan 03 01:39
schestowitzmusicJan 03 01:39
XFaCEschestowitz: try this out for sizeJan 03 01:40
XFaCEhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJrGYB52qUk&hd=1Jan 03 01:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Queen - The Prophet's Song - A Night at the Opera - 1975 - 24 Karat Gold Disc Remastered - 2000       - YouTube .::. Size~: 142.04 KBJan 03 01:40
XFaCEOne of my favourite Queen songs of all timeJan 03 01:40
XFaCEschestowitz: Oh, and Netrunner has reached 4.0Jan 03 01:43
XFaCEhttp://distrowatch.com/7048Jan 03 01:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Distribution Release: Netrunner 4.0 (DistroWatch.com News) .::. Size~: 110.86 KBJan 03 01:43
schestowitzcool!Jan 03 01:43
XFaCEschestowitz: I know you mentioned that distro over the past two yearsJan 03 01:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] OK, I can live with that. Let me know if you need any help.Jan 03 01:44
schestowitzI know better Queen songsJan 03 01:45
XFaCEschestowitz: I dunno man, that midsection with the echoing, overlayed vocals is pretty awesomeJan 03 01:45
schestowitzit's old techJan 03 01:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Munich Linux Migration Project LiMux Reports Success http://ur1.ca/76pfr... http://b1t.it/anwOJan 03 01:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ur1 Generator .::. Size~: 2.26 KBJan 03 01:46
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schestowitzand bohemian rhapsody does that tooJan 03 01:46
XFaCEschestowitz: true, I dunno, I think this one has a hard rock, progressive edge to itJan 03 01:46
XFaCEhave you hear this?Jan 03 01:46
XFaCEMore bad news, this time from Spain. LinEx, a Debian-based distribution developed by the Extremadura regional government and deployed widely in local schools and government offices, has closed down: "A PARTIR DEL 31 DE DICIEMBRE DE 2011, EL PROYECTO LINEX DEJA DE EXISTIR... VIVA LA LIBERTAD !!" That's all we know officially. But José Luis Redrejo Rodríguez, one of the developers of LinEx, has offered some insight on the debian-project mailing list, suJan 03 01:46
XFaCEggesting that the move to discontinue LinEx is political rather than technical: "The new people in charge of the Extremadura government don't like the good press and name that LinEx and free software gave to the previous party in the government. And they want to change things. I don't say they're going to remove all the free software we have in education (I don't think that's technically possible, and also we can not afford it ), but they maybe will movJan 03 01:46
XFaCEe from Debian to Ubuntu or to openSUSE or Fedora. They are firing all the people who made the previous situation possible. Also, they are in negotiation with some very big and famous privative companies, to put some applications (office applications mainly) in their privative clouds, etc." It's interesting to see that free software can play such an important role in politics these days...Jan 03 01:47
XFaCEhttp://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20120102#newsJan 03 01:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. .::. Size~: 187.79 KBJan 03 01:47
schestowitznw alpha http://www.pear-os-linux.fr/Jan 03 01:48
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schestowitz[01:46] <XFaCE> have you hear this?Jan 03 01:48
schestowitzyesJan 03 01:48
XFaCEschestowitz: Fits in perfectly in what you've reported about Spain of lateJan 03 01:49
schestowitzmy all time favs are ones my family listened to when I was a kidJan 03 01:49
schestowitzmostly my sister and dad... stuff like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqwWXgmxtggJan 03 01:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tamia - "You Put A Move On My Heart"       - YouTube .::. Size~: 128.71 KBJan 03 01:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Santa Deliverers 1.5 Million #Firearms For Christmas - #usa #preppers http://goo.gl/j6icbJan 03 01:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] #FSWJan 03 01:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Santa Deliverers 1.5 Million Firearms For Christmas .::. Size~: 61.4 KBJan 03 01:49
XFaCEin Germany?Jan 03 01:49
XFaCEinteresting, neat tastesJan 03 01:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] "!feds" http://identi.ca/url/60269419 Great group for people running their own StatusNet (and other?) sites. #statusnet #fsw #group #usefulJan 03 01:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: federated statusnet sites (feds) group - Parlementum .::. Size~: 95.25 KBJan 03 01:51
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUKilZ58wYYJan 03 01:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Stylistics - Betcha By Golly Wow  (1972)       - YouTube .::. Size~: 129.47 KBJan 03 01:52
XFaCEschestowitz: Love that kinda stuffJan 03 01:52
schestowitzmostly motown tbh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUKilZ58wYYJan 03 01:52
XFaCEI can see where 10cc was influencedJan 03 01:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Stylistics - Betcha By Golly Wow  (1972)       - YouTube .::. Size~: 101.05 KBJan 03 01:52
XFaCEMotown is awesomeJan 03 01:52
schestowitzoops. wrong paste http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6uyEJNmRRYJan 03 01:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Microsoft’s business customers are speaking, and they want Linux." http://goo.gl/y7cky #gnu #linuxJan 03 01:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Michael Jackson - Ben - What Goes Around Comes Around       - YouTube .::. Size~: 110.39 KBJan 03 01:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft reluctantly bows to Linux users | ZDNet .::. Size~: 137.93 KBJan 03 01:53
schestowitzblackstreet is my favouriteJan 03 01:53
XFaCEschestowitz: And you don't have to tell me TBH, I know you are always honest :)Jan 03 01:53
schestowitzbut they did not release many albumsJan 03 01:53
XFaCEschestowitz: Microsoft has not officially bowed down until they stop the secure boot bullshit.Jan 03 01:54
schestowitzFrom their first album that i liked http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMvO5EbsLSE&feature=relatedJan 03 01:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: blackstreet - Baby Be Mine - Blackstreet       - YouTube .::. Size~: 123.99 KBJan 03 01:54
XFaCEand remove the OEM agreementsJan 03 01:54
schestowitzmy all-time fav album for sure: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05pxzmgfpu4&feature=relatedJan 03 01:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: blackstreet - This Is How We Roll - Another Level       - YouTube .::. Size~: 87.92 KBJan 03 01:54
XFaCEand dismatles and becomes seperate companies :PJan 03 01:54
schestowitzThey redid some debarge stuff http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05pxzmgfpu4&feature=relatedJan 03 01:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: blackstreet - This Is How We Roll - Another Level       - YouTube .::. Size~: 87.81 KBJan 03 01:55
schestowitzBut at the time I thought it was all originalJan 03 01:55
scientessecure boot bullshit is rightJan 03 01:56
scientesit enables human rights violations in countries that want control over their citizensJan 03 01:56
scientesmandating spyware OSesJan 03 01:56
scientesI watched a really good video of Cory Doctorow "attack on general purpose computers"Jan 03 01:57
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-4d7wUXF2g&feature=relatedJan 03 01:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: blackstreet - The Lord Is Real (Time Will R - Another Level       - YouTube .::. Size~: 90.41 KBJan 03 01:58
schestowitzscientes: like xbox360Jan 03 01:58
schestowitzphones were always rubbishJan 03 01:58
amarsh04one friend of mine was a Stylistics fanJan 03 01:58
schestowitzsince they came from restrictiv designsJan 03 01:58
schestowitznow with tablets and some computers, it's all becoming lik phonesJan 03 01:58
schestowitzand centralise 'stores'Jan 03 01:58
schestowitzDRM+deletionsJan 03 01:58
schestowitzvery worrisomeJan 03 01:59
scientesschestowitz, microsoft allowed you to use Linux virtual PC's in its Microsoft Virtual Machine software IIRCJan 03 01:59
XFaCEscientes: Don't think it's officially supportedJan 03 01:59
scientesXFaCE, they even added linux drivers for acceleration, which made headlinesJan 03 01:59
XFaCEscientes: Oh, I was thinking virtualpcJan 03 01:59
schestowitzamarsh04: they didn't have so much output that lasted and endured the test of time, a lot was renditioned later... The Fugees, Prince...Jan 03 01:59
scientesXFaCE, whats the difference?Jan 03 02:00
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-Fch0WUojA&feature=relatedJan 03 02:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: blackstreet - Good Life - Blackstreet       - YouTube .::. Size~: 115.34 KBJan 03 02:00
XFaCEscientes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VirtualpcJan 03 02:00
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 403 ForbiddenJan 03 02:00
XFaCEscientes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper_VJan 03 02:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Hyper-V - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 126.16 KBJan 03 02:00
schestowitzTeddy Riley ended up in a scandal, hitting his daughterJan 03 02:00
*amarsh04 thinks AMD and other graphics core manufacturers should be forced to reveal specifications to enable their hardware to be used efficiently with Free softwareJan 03 02:01
amarsh04baking in the heat here with radeon cards running inefficently in summer heat without airconditioningJan 03 02:01
scienteshmm, i don't really care about crappy microsoft virtualization--but i would guess the bases are the sameJan 03 02:02
amarsh04Microsoft saying "all your bases belong to us"?Jan 03 02:03
scientes"The newest release, Windows Virtual PC, does not run on versions of Windows earlier than Windows 7"Jan 03 02:04
scientesWTFJan 03 02:04
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schestowitzhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16338040Jan 03 02:04
schestowitzLOLJan 03 02:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Man sued for keeping company Twitter followers .::. Size~: 66.26 KBJan 03 02:04
schestowitzcrazyJan 03 02:04
schestowitz"A man is being sued for keeping Twitter followers that he attracted while working for a US mobile news website."Jan 03 02:05
schestowitzlike going back to 1997.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAKLMkcaS8g&feature=relatedJan 03 02:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: blackstreet - Once In A Lifetime (Interlude - Blackstreet       - YouTube .::. Size~: 90.32 KBJan 03 02:06
schestowitzso funny how all the 'copyrighted' stuff ends up in yiutube with epproval of th record companiesJan 03 02:07
schestowitzeven if implicitJan 03 02:07
schestowitzTheir last good album before splitup http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyw4q8CEqyA&feature=relatedJan 03 02:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: blackstreet - Drama - Finally       - YouTube .::. Size~: 124.17 KBJan 03 02:07
schestowitzGood riddance http://linuxmednews.com/1325513000Jan 03 02:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google Health Dies January 2013 .::. Size~: 12.43 KBJan 03 02:10
schestowitznow, when does MS' die too?Jan 03 02:10
schestowitzHealthcrae should have nothijng to do with proprietary swJan 03 02:10
scientesthank god about google healthJan 03 02:11
*amarsh04 listens to Animenix using mplayer - for anime flavoured J-pop: http://live.animenix.net:8000/listen.plsJan 03 02:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Nokia Still A $7 Stock Even Though #Lumia Falls Flat In Europe - Forbes - #msnokia #crashandburn http://goo.gl/39EtcJan 03 02:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Linuxification of software development http://ur1.ca/76q4l #linuxJan 03 02:13
schestowitzscientes: Eric won't know about prosthetic legs, gonorrhoea, and ulcersJan 03 02:13
scientesahhh, that ericJan 03 02:13
schestowitzThus, they can't optimise search results for it :-)Jan 03 02:13
scientesesp. since I'Jan 03 02:13
scientessince I've been reading about ibm and the halocaustJan 03 02:13
scientesscary ass shitJan 03 02:13
schestowitz"I see you search for x...... you have condition y... may I suggst you press this ads for x?"Jan 03 02:13
schestowitzscientes: how about MSFT+Gates with Ben Ali+Tunisia?Jan 03 02:14
schestowitz!google microsoftt ben aliJan 03 02:14
schestowitz!google microsoft ben aliJan 03 02:14
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amarsh04there was a clip on youtube about a mythical Google service called G-maleJan 03 02:15
schestowitz!google microsoft ben aliJan 03 02:15
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schestowitz!google microsoft ben aliJan 03 02:15
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Wikileaks: Microsoft aided former Tunisian regime | Security | ZDNet ... | http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/security/2011/09/05/wikileaks-microsoft-aided-former-tunisian-regime-40093837/Jan 03 02:15
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Wikileaks: Microsoft Tunis Government Deal: Surveillance ... | http://arabcrunch.com/2011/09/wikileaks-microsoft-accused-in-helping-bin-ali-monitor-tunisians-corruption-stifling-open-source.htmlJan 03 02:15
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Microsoft Tunisia Scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Tunisia_ScandalJan 03 02:15
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Cablegate: Microsoft Attacks Free/Libre Software in Tunisia With a ... | http://techrights.org/2011/09/04/software-deal-in-tunisia/Jan 03 02:15
scientes!google tim wu deep packet inspection youtubeJan 03 02:16
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Tim Wu on Deep Packet Inspection - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DYKwgc_HQhMsJan 03 02:16
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Egyptian government used deep-packet inspection on it's ... - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dwd_7vvlQwIYJan 03 02:16
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Deep Packet Inspection - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DAqoBhNgrOMoJan 03 02:16
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Network neutrality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_neutralityJan 03 02:16
*amarsh04 shoots the apostrophe in reference [2]Jan 03 02:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Net Companies Consider the "Nuclear Option" To Combat #SOPA - Slashdot http://goo.gl/lIYhzJan 03 02:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] An enlightening experience: #BodhiLinux 1.3.0 http://ur1.ca/76q83 #ubuntu #gnu #linuxJan 03 02:18
scienteslolJan 03 02:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Net Companies Consider the "Nuclear Option" To Combat SOPA - Slashdot .::. Size~: 283.35 KBJan 03 02:18
schestowitzone colleague of mine write "it's self"Jan 03 02:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. .::. Size~: 191.61 KBJan 03 02:18
schestowitzrepeatedlyJan 03 02:18
schestowitzIIRC< Wim Wu is in a canadian uniJan 03 02:18
schestowitzTimJan 03 02:18
scientesall i know about him is whats in that videoJan 03 02:18
scientessaid he worked for packet inspection hardware sales in silicon valleyJan 03 02:19
*amarsh04 wonders about how to set up streams of data with purposely fake contents for DPIJan 03 02:20
schestowitzEhsatchoo talin about Willis?Jan 03 02:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 10 Reasons to Switch to #Linux in 2012 http://ur1.ca/76qby #gnuJan 03 02:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 10 Reasons to Switch to Linux in 2012 | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 85.74 KBJan 03 02:23
schestowitzhttp://linuxlock.blogspot.com/2012/01/move-over-barbiegirls-want-tech.htmlJan 03 02:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Blog of Helios: Move Over Barbie...Girls Want Tech. .::. Size~: 70.4 KBJan 03 02:25
amarsh04from another channel earlier today regarding overly restrictive or greedy licensing: "People get tangled up in a very difficult monopoly allocation system, and then don't even recognize that it's the cause of most of their problems."Jan 03 02:32
scientesschestowitz, have you seen the cory doctorow video?Jan 03 02:35
scientesamarsh04, that is really goodJan 03 02:35
scientesI support an energy-based currency, rather than debt-basedJan 03 02:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Presenting 2011's Top 10 Most Corrupt American Politicians | ZeroHedge #usa http://goo.gl/Mi4s6Jan 03 02:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Presenting 2011's Top 10 Most Corrupt American Politicians  | ZeroHedge .::. Size~: 93.34 KBJan 03 02:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] ~;-) Just think how much you could save shopping with me!Jan 03 02:43
amarsh04schestowitz, that was Karen Fogel in #sflcJan 03 02:44
*amarsh04 waits for a tow-truck to get the car to the automotive electrician to look at the starter motorJan 03 02:45
amarsh04I'd consider using taxis and public transport rather than a car if taxis were more in the habit of being available and work didn't assume that one had a car to sit in or lock valuables in.Jan 03 02:46
amarsh04in Tokyo, lockers were at all railway stations, museums, galleries and the likeJan 03 02:46
amarsh04scientes, accidentally put schestowitz instead of your name thereJan 03 02:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @glynmoody !Copyright worth $236.65 million - http://bit.ly/shdvl0 yeah, right... (v @Copycense @PTOLawyer) #russiaJan 03 03:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] That's too rich for my blood, @zotz :)Jan 03 03:04
XFaCEscientes: The Rasberry Pi has choice GNU+Linux distros right?Jan 03 03:08
scientesamarsh04, they just plug in a CAN reader, and the car tells the computer whats wrongJan 03 03:08
scientes*the other computerJan 03 03:08
scienteswhich speaking of, I am trying to find a cheap USB CAN adapter with socketcan (linux kernel) driversJan 03 03:08
amarsh04this vehicle is 24 years oldJan 03 03:09
scientesahhhJan 03 03:09
scientesstill possible, its been around since early eighties....Jan 03 03:09
amarsh04fairly early in the scheme of automotive computers - it has electronic fuel injection, designed for unleaded fuelJan 03 03:10
XFaCEscientes: n/mJan 03 03:11
scientesXFaCE, it uses SD, so you can get plenty of storage in itJan 03 03:12
scientesbut I would use LXDE with it for speed/RAM reasonsJan 03 03:13
XFaCEscientes: Thx.Jan 03 03:13
scientesand make sure to get at least a class 10 SD cardJan 03 03:13
scientesmost cheapest ones are class 4, which is much slowerJan 03 03:13
XFaCEDidn't know thatJan 03 03:14
XFaCEI've only gotten one Sd-related thin over the yearsJan 03 03:14
*amarsh04 notices that he has a class 2 micro sd cardJan 03 03:14
XFaCEtisk tisk tiskJan 03 03:15
amarsh04I bought a Panasonic 16 GB mini sd card in Akihabara, not the fastest spec one but fast enough for the digital camera it went inJan 03 03:16
amarsh0432 GB Panasonic mini sd class 4 ratherJan 03 03:17
amarsh04there were faster ones for digital video camerasJan 03 03:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @sameerverma My mother does not want her state-of-the-art Android tablet. She wants her !OLPC XO back. This must be a first :-)Jan 03 03:18
scientesamarsh04, those can be fine for digital cameras, espially older lower-megapixel onesJan 03 03:21
scientesbut definitely not for root drivesJan 03 03:21
amarsh04trueJan 03 03:27
scientesI was checking newegg, and i couldnt fins any "UHS class 6" SD cards, while there were many very fast CF drives---I thought SD was more common for embedded?Jan 03 03:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] It is now 2012 and opennet.com.sg can't even resolve without a www prefix? And they want to deploy nationwide fibre?Jan 03 03:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] 2011as recorded in Twitter. nice. http://ur1.ca/76wfx #fbJan 03 06:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Discussing Diaspora's Future http://2tu.us/3nf2 #diaspora #socnets #free_software #open_sourceJan 03 06:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Really? M$ Azure does not have *persistent* VMs? http://ur1.ca/76wmvJan 03 06:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @andyc Please welcome 2012 - codenamed 'Emerge Victorious'.Jan 03 06:54
DaemonFChttp://www.theroot.com/old-prostitute-huntspoint-bronx-working?wpisrc=obnetworkJan 03 07:18
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DaemonFChttp://www.theroot.com/buzz/man-sentenced-life-forgot-he-was-jail-during-crime?wpisrc=obinsiteJan 03 07:19
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DaemonFC"Montgomery was in and out of jail so much that he actually forgot he was in jail at the time of the crime for which he was charged, convicted and sentenced to life in prison"Jan 03 07:20
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XFaCEDiablo-D3: great musicJan 03 07:28
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Diablo-D3MUSIC IS FOR THE WEAKJan 03 07:33
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MinceRWEAKNESS IS FOR THE WEAKJan 03 07:36
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DaemonFChttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45834574/ns/technology_and_science-space/Jan 03 08:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz don't tell me you're naïve enough to expect machine translations to be as accurate as human translations!Jan 03 08:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz agreed, but the question is whether entitling authors to demand pre-screening of translations tramples translators' freedomJan 03 08:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @jxself: Hope to see more of these. Rubén is living off savings 4 now: http://ur1.ca/7686t Let's start donating enough for a min. salary!Jan 03 08:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Totally uncool, @joshuafoust ur1.ca/76zdrJan 03 08:43
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iophkSomething unusually good from OSNews:Jan 03 08:57
iophkhttp://www.osnews.com/story/25469/Richard_Stallman_Was_Right_All_AlongJan 03 08:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] re #belarus yesterday, the original TNW story was inaccurate; here's what seems to be happening really - http://ur1.ca/77022Jan 03 09:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Happy new year all! My new year's message - some reasons to be hopeful in 2012: http://t http://p.ost.im/p/ePb54vJan 03 09:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Offenherzige Ober-Piratin - http://bit.ly/sQSB8w interview with Marina Weisband, senior member of German #PiratePartyJan 03 09:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Offenherzige Ober-Piratin - http://bit.ly/sQSB8w interview with Marina Weisband, senior member of German #PiratePartyJan 03 09:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Users #petition #Asus over locked bootloader in Asus Transformer Prime - http://bit.ly/vJDrsx interesting moveJan 03 09:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] What #SoundCloud's Massive New Funding Means - http://rww.to/rQxvgQ $50 million? must be bubble time... #dotcommadnessJan 03 09:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Top 11 Citizen Science Projects of 2011 - http://bit.ly/ruYLeV important new trend #openscienceJan 03 09:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @glynmoody Turn Any #WordPress Site Into A #BitTorrent Tracker - http://bit.ly/t2hTIo the wonders of #opensourceJan 03 09:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Florida deputies cleared of wrongdoing in unusual death - http://bit.ly/uGFzih nothing to see here, move along please #policebrutalityJan 03 09:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Orangutan conservation project, #Indonesia – in pictures - http://bit.ly/t8hndL kudos to these peopleJan 03 10:03
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schestowitzodd artcile http://www.bgr.com/2012/01/02/androids-clopen-ecosystem-is-hurting-consumers-and-increasing-fragmentation/Jan 03 10:25
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schestowitzWhat a headlineJan 03 10:25
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schestowitzAnother new one http://www.ukauthority.com/Headlines/tabid/36/NewsArticle/tabid/64/Default.aspx?id=3482Jan 03 10:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat expects to hire 1,000 workers this year http://ur1.ca/772au #linuxJan 03 10:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu's Unity Desktop: A Free Republic or Paternalistic Democracy? http://ur1.ca/772df #ubuntu #linuxJan 03 10:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Even all these years after 9/11, some people enjoy being dicks http://identi.ca/url/63719093Jan 03 10:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Introducing #Cinnamon http://ur1.ca/76dq4 #gnomeJan 03 10:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mounting Google Documents in GNU/Linux is just not a (real) option http://goo.gl/sxfT9 but Google uses GNU/Linux and OS X internallyJan 03 10:51
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PlentyOfFishhey royJan 03 10:53
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iophkTHe 9/11 link above hides a MS-slate link behind the identica url shortener.Jan 03 10:56
Diablo-D3boo hoo.Jan 03 10:57
Diablo-D3iophk: you do realize shorteners do not hide links, right?Jan 03 10:57
iophkThat's what they are often used for.Jan 03 10:57
Diablo-D3they're often used to deal with the fucking 140 character limitJan 03 10:57
Diablo-D3also, the link has nothing to do with softwareJan 03 10:58
iophkThere is no 140 character limit.  URLs can be arbitrarily long.   URL shorteners are used to obscure the source  and rickroll people.Jan 03 10:58
iophkhttp://blogs.wsj.com/tech-europe/2011/07/04/malware-writers-exploit-url-shorteners/Jan 03 10:59
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Diablo-D3iophk: troll somewhere else dudeJan 03 10:59
Diablo-D3every single one of my urls on identica are shortenedJan 03 10:59
iophkThen you're part of the problem.  Jan 03 11:00
Diablo-D3urls cannot be arbitrarily long, they are shortened.Jan 03 11:00
Diablo-D3identica does it automaticallyJan 03 11:00
iophkWhy not just post the link to the article instead of using a link shortener like Identica.  Where's the value added?  I see only disadvantages.Jan 03 11:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] British Darth Vader fighter dies aged 89 http://goo.gl/l34d7Jan 03 11:01
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Diablo-D3iophk: uh, because I posted it ON identica?Jan 03 11:01
Diablo-D3iophk: its either identica automatically shortens the url or identica doesnt post it and tells me that the post is too long.Jan 03 11:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Total number of e-mails in my inboxes and outboxes: 135260. I thinnk I'll start doing some regular statistics...Jan 03 11:03
Diablo-D3so, seriously, troll elsewhereJan 03 11:03
iophkQuit trolling with the shortened links.Jan 03 11:03
*Diablo-D3 has kicked iophk from #techrights (seriously, I'm not going to ask again)Jan 03 11:03
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_goblinhe should never be an opJan 03 11:05
schestowitzI knowJan 03 11:05
Diablo-D3schestowitz: dude, wtfJan 03 11:05
schestowitzI said so beforeJan 03 11:05
Diablo-D3then dont op me if you dont want me to deal with the trolls.Jan 03 11:05
_goblinwe didntJan 03 11:06
_goblinnot sure who didJan 03 11:06
_goblinxface?Jan 03 11:06
_goblinand he's not a trollJan 03 11:06
schestowitzhttp://mrpogson.com/2012/01/02/wintel-fragments-in-panic/Jan 03 11:08
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schestowitzwelcome backJan 03 11:10
iophkThxJan 03 11:10
schestowitzxface won'y get op nowJan 03 11:10
schestowitzfor oping Diablo-D3 after I had told him not toJan 03 11:10
iophkI accidentally clkicked on MS Slate link.  I don't like giving them traffic.  Jan 03 11:11
Diablo-D3schestowitz: just ban iophk alreadyJan 03 11:12
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iophkhttp://techrights.org/2008/10/27/slate-washington-p-melinda-gates/Jan 03 11:16
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Diablo-D3iophk: if you dont want to read a story about 9/11, then dont click the linkJan 03 11:17
Diablo-D3its your fault, and you have no one to blame but yourselfJan 03 11:17
iophkAny further thought on the Apple boycott mentioned last month?Jan 03 11:21
iophkhttp://apple.slashdot.org/story/11/12/27/0216217/techrights-recommends-an-apple-boycottJan 03 11:21
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iophkwww.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/jan/03/apple-new-york-eventJan 03 11:21
Diablo-D3I love how schestowitz calls for boycotts of dying companiesJan 03 11:21
_goblinyep...xmas 2011 sure shows apple dying.........Jan 03 11:22
_goblinall those pad sales....Jan 03 11:22
_goblinyou know...im surprised they made the new yearJan 03 11:22
_goblinwhat do we think....? two days left for Apple?Jan 03 11:23
Diablo-D3all those ipad 2 sales? about 1/10th of all the 9/10" android tablet sales.Jan 03 11:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] India’s $35 #Android tablet, the Aakash, lands in America - http://wapo.st/vvKi5M useful review (v @whiteafrican @kiwanja)Jan 03 11:23
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Diablo-D3so, sure, apple "really" had ipad "sales"Jan 03 11:23
_goblinso they didn't make any profit?Jan 03 11:23
Diablo-D3plus, they didnt sell any 5-7" ipads since, you know, they dont exist.Jan 03 11:23
_goblinI don't think so diablo....Apple had a very good xmasJan 03 11:23
Diablo-D3_goblin: dudeJan 03 11:23
schestowitzyeahJan 03 11:23
Diablo-D3if Im going to be a companyJan 03 11:23
_goblindont call me dudeJan 03 11:23
Diablo-D3Im going to rocket to the top and stay thereJan 03 11:23
_goblinyou never willJan 03 11:23
Diablo-D3apple failedJan 03 11:24
Diablo-D3apple will always failJan 03 11:24
_goblinand I don't think apple is doing too badlyJan 03 11:24
Diablo-D3why be the best when you can sell the most instead.Jan 03 11:24
Diablo-D3_goblin: notice I dont own apple stockJan 03 11:24
_goblinneither do IJan 03 11:24
Diablo-D3and its not because I hate apple's corporate bullshitJan 03 11:24
_goblinI do...Jan 03 11:24
Diablo-D3its because they cant convince me they are profitable enough.Jan 03 11:24
_goblinI can still be realisticJan 03 11:24
Diablo-D3if I own stock in a company, its because I believe they can turn a profit in the future.Jan 03 11:25
Diablo-D3apple has yet to convince that of meJan 03 11:25
_goblinI don't like Apple particularly...but they are certainly not dying....Jan 03 11:25
ThistleWebapple are one of the few companies who have resisted the urge to drop prices, keep selling premium, and people fall over themselves to payJan 03 11:25
Diablo-D3dude, they had to resort to suing samsung to protect ipad salesJan 03 11:25
_goblinagreed ThistleWeb Jan 03 11:25
ThistleWebvery few companies can do that, in any fieldJan 03 11:25
_goblinbut that apparently is dying according to Diablo even though people are willing to pay ott pricesJan 03 11:25
ThistleWebit means they rake in huge margins on each sale that everyone else would kill forJan 03 11:26
Diablo-D3between samsung's galaxy tab 10, and toshiba's 10" thrive, and asus's 10" one, Im surprised ANYONE buys ipadsJan 03 11:26
_goblinbe surprised thenJan 03 11:26
_goblinpeople doJan 03 11:26
Diablo-D3seriously, same or better cpu, same or more memory, same or more flash, all for about $100-200 cheaper than the equiv ipad modelJan 03 11:26
Diablo-D3apple just cant competeJan 03 11:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Slovak rulings go online -- with no hiding place for litigants - http://bit.ly/vTxYxJ good to see #openlawJan 03 11:26
_goblinand apple is not a dying company, to suggest so is sillyJan 03 11:26
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Diablo-D3lost sales == dead companyJan 03 11:26
Diablo-D3if I did have apple stock, I would have sold it the day steve jobs diedJan 03 11:26
ThistleWebthey've chosen to be too expensive for some consumers, if it means keeping the margins high on those who can afford itJan 03 11:26
Diablo-D3just to make the point.Jan 03 11:26
_goblinyes of course.....marvellousJan 03 11:26
Diablo-D3ThistleWeb: dudeJan 03 11:27
Diablo-D3most people buy products because they workJan 03 11:27
ThistleWebof course, high prices and marketting are nothing without products that feel the sameJan 03 11:27
Diablo-D3ipads dont work, not at $600 they dontJan 03 11:27
_goblinlol...Jan 03 11:27
Diablo-D3sorry, $600 and up.Jan 03 11:27
_goblinso price affects functionalityJan 03 11:27
_goblinwowJan 03 11:27
schestowitzHey, ThistleWeb, great showJan 03 11:27
Diablo-D3it better come with a free blowjob at that price.Jan 03 11:27
_goblinwindows should be about 10pJan 03 11:27
Diablo-D3_goblin: yup, it doesJan 03 11:27
ThistleWebif it's slow, clunky etc then a high price tag and PR won't workJan 03 11:27
ThistleWebtyJan 03 11:27
schestowitzI listened to it while running yesterday.. renting domains, I like the terminologyJan 03 11:27
_goblinwhat if someone buys a second hand one then?Jan 03 11:27
Diablo-D3now, if apple sold that ipad2 base model for, say, $300-350?Jan 03 11:28
_goblindoes it work better than the brand new oneJan 03 11:28
Diablo-D3then sure, I'd recommend themJan 03 11:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Motion-Tracking comes to Blender with Project Mango - http://bit.ly/sFSrzf #blender is ever-more impressive #opensourceJan 03 11:28
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Diablo-D3but at $600 when I can buy the same or better from samsung, asus, or toshiba for $150 or more cheaper?Jan 03 11:28
Diablo-D3bwahah fuck no.Jan 03 11:28
Diablo-D3I can get the 8gb 10" thrive, nearly identical setup, for $375.Jan 03 11:28
Diablo-D3the same in ipad2? $600.Jan 03 11:29
Diablo-D3apple cant make the sale.Jan 03 11:29
Diablo-D3they cant close the deal.Jan 03 11:29
Diablo-D3someone ate their lunch.Jan 03 11:29
Diablo-D3why the fuck are you shilling for apple, _goblin Jan 03 11:29
Diablo-D3you know betterJan 03 11:29
_goblinlolJan 03 11:29
_goblinwhy are you being a tit?Jan 03 11:29
Diablo-D3you first.Jan 03 11:29
ThistleWeboh, I was on the 12hr HPR call at new year......it was fantasticJan 03 11:29
_goblindiablo, I dont shill for anything, I dont like you, never have....I tollerate you and I think we will leave it there...say what you will.Jan 03 11:30
ThistleWebmy yardstick is that if I'm sober enough to say "inebriated" I'm not inebriated enough.....when I get to the point where I can no longer say "inebriated"; I am therefor simply drunkJan 03 11:30
_goblingood measure!Jan 03 11:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Judge to consider oral argument in lawsuit against #Monsanto - http://bit.ly/vyFX2G important case #gmJan 03 11:31
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ThistleWebI have no idea how that call is gonna be split into episodes but I kinda treated it as a voice conference call with a lotta linuxy folks to bring in the new year through the various time zonesJan 03 11:32
_goblinI'll have to check it outJan 03 11:34
schestowitzThistleWeb: you use mumble, right?Jan 03 11:36
schestowitzthe sound quality is very highJan 03 11:36
ThistleWebschestowitz: yepJan 03 11:37
ThistleWebit's super easy tooJan 03 11:37
schestowitzI got it installed after you mentioned itJan 03 11:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @glynmoody Motion-Tracking comes to Blender with Project Mango - http://bit.ly/sFSrzf #blender is ever-more impressive #opensourceJan 03 11:38
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schestowitzit seemed to be quite good, if _goblin agrees we can try iJan 03 11:38
schestowitz*itJan 03 11:38
schestowitzit would also let us do an episode with stallman, who agreed but will request use of fossJan 03 11:38
ThistleWebwe use the linuxbasix server, they're happy to have rooms for foss showsJan 03 11:38
schestowitzcool, thanksJan 03 11:39
ThistleWebso when we go to record, we simply log in to the same server, drag our names to the right channel, and we can text chat to pass notes or links, and talk, with a simple record buttonJan 03 11:39
ThistleWebrecord options are like single track mixed, multitrack etc with varying qualities and formats including oggJan 03 11:40
ThistleWebthe 12hr HPR show was mumble tooJan 03 11:40
schestowitzcool, fantastic!Jan 03 11:41
ThistleWebthat reminds me, we keep meaning to thank linuxbasix for that on the show, by the time we draw to a close we end up forgetting half the stuff like that.....and giving out the email etcJan 03 11:41
ThistleWebno idea how hard it is to set up a murmur server, but from the client end it's classJan 03 11:44
iophk+bJan 03 11:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux in 2011: What a Great Year http://ur1.ca/773kk #linuxJan 03 11:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #India's #Aakash tablet: 1.4 million booked in 14 days - http://bit.ly/tA5pz1 more news on the hottest tab in townJan 03 11:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Orwell Was An Optimist: Happy New Year - http://bit.ly/sNaQdm cheerful thought #surveillance #censorshipJan 03 12:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Own a piece of history: The WikiLeaks #Occupy Wall Street truck is up for auction #ows http://t.co/30NLLFj0Jan 03 12:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] ♻ @therealpadams: New blog post: KDEPIM, A Little Look At 2011 http://ur1.ca/773miJan 03 12:18
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_goblinschestowitz, still waiting for noise to be sorted on lineJan 03 12:18
_goblinfyiJan 03 12:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The most honest Ebay auction EVER: Extras: - and possibly tracking bugs installed by the government http://t.co/30NLLFj0Jan 03 12:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #screwcable - http://bit.ly/u1E5JG "make it impossible to legally consume the content they want, they will pirate it" - @fredwilsonJan 03 12:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A modest proposal to give Free Software equal legal standing as proprietary - http://bit.ly/uM2vwc raises important points #lawJan 03 12:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A modest proposal to give Free Software equal legal standing as proprietary. | Carlo Piana :: Law is Freedom :: .::. Size~: 17.29 KBJan 03 12:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Egypt: Cables on Hisham Kassem http://t.co/gFkhKzhrJan 03 12:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] Of course not, point is, why trust any random translation to represent the accurate thoughts of the original author?Jan 03 13:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Paul de Grauwe: "Os portugueses é que estão a pagar aos alemães" - Dinheiro Vivo - #pt #euro #collapse http://goo.gl/4UIExJan 03 13:06
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schestowitz_goblin: thanks mateJan 03 13:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] if we have to solve a problem & we have to affect another's freedom to do so, don't we choose the solution that least impacts their freedom?Jan 03 13:16
_goblinschestowitz, still waitingJan 03 13:16
_goblinschestowitz, as soon as im up and running, ill let you knowJan 03 13:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #systemd - #Ubuntu Wiki - #gnulinux #flosstools #admin http://ur1.ca/77691Jan 03 13:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] This is not facebook, but something much better :-) http://ur1.ca/773g2Jan 03 13:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DeAno Jackson - Google+ - This Is Not Facebook I've been noticing that over the past… .::. Size~: 119.4 KBJan 03 13:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] \o/ #Unseenstudio now has a working #Flattr button, on the sidebarJan 03 13:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @unseenstudio: The Mysterious Case Of The New #Flattr Button http://goo.gl/2ZrP5Jan 03 13:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] #FAIL ♻ @ania13: Koniec "wieloletniej tradycji festiwali". Może miasto coś by dla mieszkańców zrobiło? ur1.ca/776x1Jan 03 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] What should free software do in 2012? - http://bit.ly/rpKuVf put another way, what's the most important thing it *could* do? #sopa #freeswJan 03 13:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What should free software do in 2012? - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 43.75 KBJan 03 13:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Extremadura abandons its custom Linux distribution - The H Open Source - #spain #flossfiles #gnulinux http://goo.gl/LKgSZJan 03 13:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Extremadura abandons its custom Linux distribution  - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 41.44 KBJan 03 13:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Only 2123 people to go before Friends of WikiLeaks reaches critical mass https://t.co/xWcS5ckQJan 03 13:51
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iophkhttp://www.tgdaily.com/business-and-law-features/60542-more-firms-pull-support-for-sopaJan 03 13:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Computer history time :-)Jan 03 13:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Misplaced priorities hampering UK government uptake of open source by @horncologne | http://red.ht/sYlWQk #opengovJan 03 14:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Rupert Murdoch has joined twitter. Worth going back for?Jan 03 14:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Tesco, #LGBT Pride and the trap the gay media fall into http://gu.com/p/34dm5Jan 03 14:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] 2011: From the desk of Haiku, Inc. | Haiku Project http://goo.gl/owIjV Haiku, Inc. has crossed the $25,000 threshold the IRSJan 03 14:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tesco, LGBT Pride and the trap the gay media fall into | Martin Pendergast | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 219.2 KBJan 03 14:08
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PlentyOfFishHey Roy, i know of a different dating website which is also free, do you want me to send you the link?Jan 03 14:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] !sr tag-spammer baileys UID 576120 has been silenced.Jan 03 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Given that police are increasingly issuing subpoenas to Twitter, join us in requesting twitter change their data retention policy. #NOLOGSJan 03 14:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Talking of adverts. When I occasionally land on a website that won't let me in because of Adblock I just forget about them and move on.Jan 03 14:21
iophkThat was good news about Haiku-OS growing.  Jan 03 14:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Anonymous/Antisec/Luzsec releases in 2011 http://t.co/cBFebzglJan 03 14:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I seem to have developed haemophilia.Jan 03 14:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Scribus 1.4 released http://ur1.ca/778haJan 03 14:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Polskie firmy produkujące przyprawy zrezygnują z glutaminianu sodu i te pe? Supahr! ur1.ca/778mtJan 03 14:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Randazza Files For Contempt Of Court Against #Righthaven http://goo.gl/P49fm - some lawyers need to be struck off permenantlyJan 03 14:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Randazza Files For Contempt Of Court Against Righthaven | Techdirt .::. Size~: 50.71 KBJan 03 14:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Interesting analysis of state of the global economy and capitalism - http://ur1.ca/778qu #fbJan 03 14:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if lawyers knew they faced permanent barring from practise for handling cases / courts / accused etc with contempt, they'd think twiceJan 03 14:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Emerging Economies Face Questions on Growth Path - WSJ.com .::. Size~: 194.08 KBJan 03 14:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I gotta applaud @evan - #Identica has been acting as it should be recently; let's hope I haven't jinx'd itJan 03 14:56
iophkhttp://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2011/12/31/nokia-still-a-7-stock-even-though-lumia-falls-flat-in-europe/Jan 03 14:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nokia Still A $7 Stock Even Though Lumia Falls Flat In Europe - Forbes .::. Size~: 110.87 KBJan 03 14:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Digital Camera Holiday Gift Guide - Sub $150 Cameras - #photography #digicams http://ur1.ca/779exJan 03 15:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Recommended Cameras - #photography #digicams http://ur1.ca/779ghJan 03 15:14
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iophkThe price of standalone cameras has been dropping.  It can be the fact that smartphones and tablets have built-in cameras, albeit crappy ones.Jan 03 15:15
DaemonFConly 3 more months of directripoff (directv)Jan 03 15:17
DaemonFCyayJan 03 15:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] After reading "Microsoft is as big as at is because it constantly delivers." I involuntarily uttered a stream of Anglo-Saxon.Jan 03 15:19
DaemonFCthey didn't say what they constantly deliver ;)Jan 03 15:20
DaemonFCI haven't seen a Microsoft product that really impressed me in over 10 years nowJan 03 15:21
DaemonFCWindows 2000 was alright sometimesJan 03 15:21
DaemonFC2000 only made an impression off of me because I was used to the constant crashes and problems and weirdness of 9x or (at school we had) NT systems, which had no plug and play, no device manager, no hardware accelerated 3d graphics, etc.Jan 03 15:24
MinceRor the ability to set color for palette item 0Jan 03 15:24
MinceRwhich tended to look really stupid in games like WinQuakeJan 03 15:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] CyanogenMod For Galaxy Note– First Alpha Download Ready http://ow.ly/8gAa6Jan 03 15:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Cornell's Eureqa machine makes IBM's Watson look like a "glorified search engine" (Science News): http://bit.ly/vwxk9YJan 03 15:28
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DaemonFCMinceR: Quake could be hardware accelerated on 9x, but not on NT 4Jan 03 15:29
DaemonFCon Windows 2000, the hardware acceleration workedJan 03 15:30
DaemonFCby that time, the game was so old, nobody was really playing it much Jan 03 15:30
DaemonFCQuake 3 Arena worked on Windows 2000 right offJan 03 15:31
DaemonFCthey were released within a few months of each otherJan 03 15:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Urgente: contactar parlamentares portugueses já - http://ur1.ca/779whJan 03 15:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] does not need explanation. what needs explanation is justification for denying 4 freedoms everywhere.Jan 03 15:31
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MinceRthe machines i used NT4 (and/or 2000) didn't have 3D accelerator hwJan 03 15:33
MinceRs/\)/& on/Jan 03 15:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @evgenymorozov: Facebook censors abortion tips - Radio Netherlands ur1.ca/77adfJan 03 15:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] !sr Silenced localseo1 UID 298886 Another OnlyWire SEO link-spammer.Jan 03 15:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Version 1.0 of the Clementine music player arrives - The H Open Source - #floss #audio http://goo.gl/lLhhuJan 03 16:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] 'Spam capital' India arrests six in phishing probe http://goo.gl/xf1gqJan 03 16:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Morning folks, how are we doing?Jan 03 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Gentoo releases new live DVD - The H Open Source - #gnulinux #floss http://goo.gl/6P3wmJan 03 16:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Scribus 1.4.0 publishing software released - The H Open Source - #floss #dtp http://goo.gl/wvEKuJan 03 16:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Mint's #Cinnamon http://ur1.ca/76dq4 hits 1.1.3 - The H Open Source - #floss #gnulinux #mint http://ur1.ca/77b3yJan 03 16:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Ah, the Good ole times. Punchcards, Atari 800XL (my second computer, first one was an Atari 400) and a CRAY 2. https:... http://b1t.it/anPXJan 03 16:14
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Ah, the Good ole times. Punchcards, Atari 800XL (my second… .::. Size~: 54.15 KBJan 03 16:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Which parts of the Bible do YOU follow? ur1.ca/77b72 !atheismJan 03 16:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] trmanco: RT @WTFuckFacts: Banging your head against a wall uses 150 calories an hour.Jan 03 16:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @rysiek Which parts of the Bible do YOU follow? http://ur1.ca/77ba9 !atheismJan 03 16:21
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iophkhttp://techland.time.com/2012/01/03/game-publishers-didnt-drop-sopa-support/Jan 03 16:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Natural Swimming Pools - make your own - YouTube - #preppers #permaculture http://ur1.ca/77bdhJan 03 16:26
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iophk"In reality, they’re keeping a safe distance from specific legislation while their trade group, the ESA, gets its hands dirty."Jan 03 16:26
iophkThey're still members of ESAJan 03 16:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] RT @opencontent: My Introduction to Openness in Education course is kicking off this week. openeducation.us/welcome. Everyone is welcome!Jan 03 16:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @Ovigia Beautiful, fun and !green. Very nice.Jan 03 16:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | A Symbolic #SOPA Protest Takedown http://goo.gl/DUlDiJan 03 16:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Department S "Is Vic There" Radio 6. I had forgotten about this one.Jan 03 16:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !tzag and good morning !identiverseJan 03 16:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] National Geographic Doomsday #Preppers - YouTube - #docs http://ur1.ca/77blvJan 03 16:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 3/1/2012: Gentoo 12.1 LiveDVD, Red Hat to Hire a Thousand http://ur1.ca/77bmt #techrightsJan 03 16:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] indeed, looks like a small lake.Jan 03 16:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: Links 3/1/2012: Gentoo 12.1 LiveDVD, Red Hat to Hire a Thousand http://ur1.ca/77bmt #techrightsJan 03 16:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @ruiseabra: Urgente: contactar parlamentares portugueses já - http://ur1.ca/779whJan 03 16:49
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/88030277Jan 03 16:53
TechrightsBot-tr@Charles-H. Schulz (charlesschulz)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Jan-12 15:56:50 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz: interesting article on potential #MSFT influence on #apache #openoffice : http://t.co/OK6a3MtY scary hypothesis...Jan 03 16:53
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schestowitzJulie Bort is a Microsoft spinnerJan 03 16:53
schestowitzI thought she only wrote for IDGJan 03 16:53
schestowitzAnd bashed FOSS in thereJan 03 16:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Understanding Debian - The Universal Operating System :-http://claudiocomputing.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/infographi... http://b1t.it/anQ8Jan 03 16:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Thanks, @osamak ... if I read it correctly, an "unported" license isn't tied to a specific geography (and laws) but works internationallyJan 03 16:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Planet of Sound is being played now loudly.Jan 03 17:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Groovesharking.Jan 03 17:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Chile Forbids Carriers From Selling Network-Locked Phones http://goo.gl/GWA4QJan 03 17:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @robmyers @lxoliva Ideas need expression. And culture needs reference. Lack of 4fs affects these as it does for code & linking in sof ...Jan 03 17:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @zotz does not need explanation. what needs explanation is justification for denying 4 freedoms everywhere.Jan 03 17:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Linux Mint introduces Cinnamon http://ur1.ca/77c6iJan 03 17:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I just clicked on a Guardian Tech section link. The page loaded I saw the pipe and ran away.Jan 03 17:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Sudden Outbreak of Common Sense - carriers forbidden from locking phones to networks in Chile: ur1.ca/77ca0Jan 03 17:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @forteller: RT @ggreenwald: The Onion, on Obama and indefinite detention: http://is.gd/dDaDPJJan 03 17:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @forteller @FFII: Tnx to the @EFF for the credit, let's imagine better transatlantic ideas than #ACTA http://is.gd/gs6kIIJan 03 17:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Microsoft do seem to have the midas touch in reverse; everything they touch turns to shit http://goo.gl/Egwpt #Nokia #WP7 #LumiaJan 03 17:16
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_Goblinschestowitz: still at dialup speed (line noise) :(Jan 03 17:16
_Goblinschestowitz: just switched on to see progress...I'll give sky a ringJan 03 17:17
schestowitz_Goblin: cool, I'll probably be readyJan 03 17:19
_Goblinstill 7kb per sec transfer.....Jan 03 17:20
_GoblinI'll call emJan 03 17:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Weird at my school.Jan 03 17:21
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schestowitz_Goblin: wow, that's quite slowJan 03 17:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] #ThankGNU for Trevor Standley, Michael J Meehan, David Moews -- http://ur1.ca/6v57o Join the !FSF today: http://fsf.org/jfb !gnu !lpJan 03 17:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] #ThankGNU for Christopher Allan Webber, habib krit, Gabor Toth -- http://ur1.ca/6v57o Join the !FSF today: http://fsf.org/jfb !gnu !lpJan 03 17:23
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schestowitzhttp://www.change.org/petitions/tell-verizon-drop-the-fee-for-paying-bills-onlineJan 03 17:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Why would they?Jan 03 17:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Why is Iowa Voting #RonPaul? - YouTube http://ur1.ca/77cjnJan 03 17:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I am thinking of trying a pork pie and cheese sarnie.Jan 03 17:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] that just seems to be quoting the original LoC note - going from the Russian version of the law, I'm pretty sure it doesn't say that...Jan 03 17:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] we're getting thereJan 03 17:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Cave home in Loire is charming bioclimatic troglodyte house - YouTube - #france #preppers http://ur1.ca/77crdJan 03 17:36
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_Goblinschestowitz: yeah its because they are sorting out the line noise...Jan 03 17:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Abusing the word "free" in software: what's really free in the Google market and in Ubuntu's market? http://goo.gl/eRTuF #ubuntu #linuxJan 03 17:39
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_Goblinschestowitz: they turned their filter way up to give me connectivity whilst they did their workJan 03 17:40
_Goblinschestowitz: it was apparently to be done by 12 today.... still not done.....I've been told just to keep an eye on it, should be done todayJan 03 17:40
schestowitz"keep an eye"=no exact time, they left themselves open to negligence :-)Jan 03 17:41
schestowitz"real soon now"Jan 03 17:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Raspberry Pi - first 10 on eBay! http://ur1.ca/77cux #linux #deviceJan 03 17:41
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ThistleWeb"keep an eye on Frodo Gandalf" "two eyes, as often as I can spare them"Jan 03 17:42
_Goblin:)Jan 03 17:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: Abusing the word "free" in software: what's really free in the Google market and in Ubuntu's market? http://goo.gl/eRTuF #ubJan 03 17:43
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ThistleWeb_Goblin: you do seem to attract internet iSP issuesJan 03 17:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @Tekk How about as a compromise you just use a CC image you like which will take 2 mins and then make one should you feel the inclination?Jan 03 17:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Version 1.0 of the #Clementine music player arrives http://goo.gl/lLhhu #music #linuxJan 03 17:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @anwajler: RT @raganwald Myth: Android puts users in control. Fact: Android puts *manufacturers* in control. ur1.ca/77d20 !fs !linuxJan 03 17:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ChakraLinux Review: Arch For Mortals http://ur1.ca/77d3s #gnu #linuxJan 03 17:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Android surges in holiday activations http://ur1.ca/77d5w... http://b1t.it/anS7Jan 03 17:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk can't you just copy-paste from your old identica avatar? (after @evan has it fixed, that is - thx @march and @bavatar)Jan 03 18:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @johpunk !gentoo linux releases 12.0 LiveDVD http://ur1.ca/76mg9Jan 03 18:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ Richard Stallman tenia razón http://ur1.ca/76ydo (traducido horriblemente al español por @sweet) !fsfla !softwarelibre !softwarelivreJan 03 18:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "You may not alter, transform, or build upon this work." ~ http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/2.0/ !q !ccJan 03 18:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Power of RAW #Cannabis. - YouTube http://ur1.ca/77ddkJan 03 18:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Do NOT buy Asus Transformer Prime. It's Defective By Design: ur1.ca/77dgc !fs !linuxJan 03 18:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] http://www.ur1.ca/b79l: "The freedom to distribute copies of your modified versions to others (freedom 3). By doing this you can give ... "Jan 03 18:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "... you can give the whole community a chance to benefit from your changes."~The Free Software Definition !q http://www.ur1.ca/b79lJan 03 18:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Introduction To Indoor #Cannabis Cultivation! - YouTube - #docs http://ur1.ca/77djyJan 03 18:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz y, translations are a distraction. the real question is whether X has the "freedom" to put words in Y's mouth. I don't think so.Jan 03 18:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Mozilla Public License 2.0 released http://ur1.ca/77dm2Jan 03 18:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] http://www.ur1.ca/b79l "The freedom to distribute copies of your modified versions to others (freedom 3). By doing this you can give ..." !qJan 03 18:21
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_GoblinThistleWeb: Its them damn black helicopters......listening into my conversations sucks bandwidth and makes noise! ;)Jan 03 18:22
_GoblinThistleWeb: more realistically its because I'm living in a small village in middle of nowhere.Jan 03 18:22
_Goblinmaybe the noise on the line is that of the rotor blades? :)Jan 03 18:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Stoned Free Guide to Growing #Cannabis (Full Version) - YouTube http://ur1.ca/77dr3Jan 03 18:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "... you can give the whole community a chance to benefit from your changes."~The Free Software Definition !q http://www.ur1.ca/b79lJan 03 18:24
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ThistleWebmaybe a flock of owls interfereing - like Harry Potter is actually real for some kid in a villiage near youJan 03 18:25
_Goblinthats true...Jan 03 18:25
_Goblinfunnily enough...whilst I didn't live under the stairs, a few years back I had my PC under there....Jan 03 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] All New #Cannabis Documentary! (PUFF, PUFF, RATE & SHARE) - YouTube http://ur1.ca/77dsxJan 03 18:26
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ThistleWebemails being routed to the "pc under the stairs"Jan 03 18:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk what I see is the chess pawn that is the new !identica "no avatar" defaultJan 03 18:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Jorge Cervantes Ultimate Grow #Marijuana - YouTube - #cannabis http://ur1.ca/77dwzJan 03 18:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Hollywood Union Members Sign Petition Asking MPAA & Hollywood Unions To Stop Supporting PIPA/SOPA http://goo.gl/oeMqC - representing artistsJan 03 18:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] If you do that, it wouldn't even be subject to charges of plagiarism. If attributing it to the original speaker, it would be libel or fraud.Jan 03 18:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk yes.Jan 03 18:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Tuesday http://ur1.ca/77e9sJan 03 18:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Stable kernel 2.6.32.52 http://ur1.ca/77eaeJan 03 18:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @coyo @laurelrusswurm http://ur1.ca/77e8h a good overview for those who arent familiar with it.Jan 03 18:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] #Linux #kernel 2.6.32.52 http://bit.ly/zxO9dv "[…] It contains a single bugfix for resume issues that were reported by a lot of people. […]"Jan 03 18:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] you still ignore the fact that a distinction between approved and unapproved translation is enough. limiting freedom more is not needed.Jan 03 18:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] need for freedom does *not* need to be proved. need to *limit* freedom needs to be proved. give that argument a break already.Jan 03 18:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk disagreed, I'm not the one who's trying to apply the freedoms rms proved essential for sw users outside the domain he didJan 03 18:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk it's not labeling something as a freedom, or hand-waving about it and pointing at others, that make it a legitimate freedomJan 03 19:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] yes, things look pretty badJan 03 19:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] and if I want to translate it, make some changes and say this is what "I" think. not what the original author thinks?Jan 03 19:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] 21 years I have been living here (Since the house was built) and I am still getting people phoning for Mr Matthews who I have never met.Jan 03 19:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] it is the attribution of a derivative to the original author and not the copyright violation of making that derivative that is the problem.Jan 03 19:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] it is not *essential* that you be allowed to go to bed before 10pm, but who has the right to deny you that freedom on what grounds?Jan 03 19:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] http://laurelrusswurm.wordpress.com/2011/04/13/inconstant-moon-update-cc-by-nc-sa/Jan 03 19:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz that's enough for *me*, but clearly it's not enough for others who have been maliciously misquoted and want to avoid thatJan 03 19:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] freedom is the default and *needs* no proof. what requires proving is the need to limit freedom.Jan 03 19:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Asus to unlock Transformer Prime's bootloader, issue Android 4 update - http://bit.ly/xLJhUY that[s betterJan 03 19:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz if you want to use the same 4 freedoms proved essential for sw users' autonomy in another domain, the rationale has to applyJan 03 19:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz that's fine by me. I support that freedom, and I think it's desirable, but I couldn't so far show limiting it is unethical.Jan 03 19:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz behavior that has no detrimental impact on others is my undisputable freedom; conflicts'd draw lines between my freedoms and theirsJan 03 19:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz e.g., if my wife needs me to take care of our daughter till 10pm, I can't go to bed before then ;-)Jan 03 19:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I'm making good friends with you When you're shaking your good frame Fall on your face in those bad shoes Lying there like you're tameJan 03 19:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: #Asus to unlock Transformer Prime's bootloader, issue Android 4 update - http://bit.ly/xLJhUY that[s betterJan 03 19:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] No, #Belarus Is Not Cut Off From The Internet, But New Restrictions Are Still Pretty Bad - http://bit.ly/ymSq8B my latest take on the storyJan 03 19:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] my latest attempt: http://bit.ly/ymSq8BJan 03 19:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Hadoop won't kill ETL (Computerworld U.K.): http://bit.ly/xVSgheJan 03 19:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Battle of the Bands: Tech Firms Compete for Rock Stars - (WSJ): http://on.wsj.com/AkD5ohJan 03 19:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Mozilla Public License Version 2.0 Released - http://bit.ly/x88QiZ "shorter, better, and more compatible with other #freesw Licenses"Jan 03 19:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Listening to shed loads of cover versions of 'Tame'Jan 03 19:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk too many ideas in a single post. let me break that up in multiple responsesJan 03 19:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk I believe ND is not the best tool to avoid misrepresentation, and I told him so myselfJan 03 19:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk I don't think it is unethical for an author to retain control over his expressions of opinion, not giving opponents a free rideJan 03 19:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Mapping the Human Story - http://bit.ly/ykD1Wp could be fab or a flopJan 03 19:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] making a derivative of someone's work has no detrimental impact on them. attributing the derivative to them may. fighting the wrong fight.Jan 03 19:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk finally, I'm not sure taking a ride on others' works is a demandable freedom (as in, one that it would be unethical to deny)Jan 03 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] We did a new release of #sipwitch (1.2.0) for the new year thanks to Haakon finding an important bugJan 03 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk I've seen proof that, for certain kinds of works (e.g. sw), user autonomy requires curtailing authors' control over worksJan 03 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @robmyers It's an example from Lessig of DRM affecting both cultural and software freedom. If you can't modify SW to read aloud you'r ...Jan 03 19:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk but I'm not convinced that (nor have I seen arguments that purport to) show the same rationale applies to other kinds of worksJan 03 19:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk therefore, I remain unconvinced that it's unethical to deny permission for derivatives, although the right to derive is beneficialJan 03 19:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !tzag @expatpaulJan 03 19:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Pipeline Inspector-Turned Whistleblower Calls Keystone XL a Potential “Disaster” - http://bit.ly/wDQCd2 wow, pretty telling #tarsandsJan 03 19:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody Pipeline Inspector-Turned Whistleblower Calls Keystone XL a Potential “Disaster” - http://bit.ly/wDQCd2 wow, pretty tellin ...Jan 03 19:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is jpope from micro.jpope.org with 73 dents!Jan 03 19:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz clearly you've never had a passage you wrote quoted out of context to mean the opposite of what you fought your whole life for ;-)Jan 03 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk I don't know of .br laws in this regard. I'm just relaying RMS's rationale as I recall it from my convo with him about thisJan 03 19:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk nope, copyright is an unfair and useless privilege harmful to society. which doesn't mean it can't ever be put to good use.Jan 03 19:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk see, the problem with this conversation seems to be that people regard me as opposed to cultural freedom, when I'm notJan 03 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk I'm rather trying (and having a hard time) establishing as solid a philosophical foundation for cultural freedom as sw freedom'sJan 03 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk but instead of getting help to figure out how the rationale applies, or come up with another rationale, I'm being chastised for...Jan 03 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: #Mozilla Public License Version 2.0 Released - http://bit.ly/x88QiZ "shorter, better, and more compatible with other #freeswJan 03 20:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk not accepting blindly the (AFAICT) faith that 4 freedoms must apply equally to all kinds of copyright-covered worksJan 03 20:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Version 1.0 of the Clementine music player arrives (The H) http://ur1.ca/77hdgJan 03 20:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @robmyers It's relevant as it mean the freedom to study, modify & distribute copyrighted literary is key to free software & free culture.Jan 03 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] can't have happened to rms right? copyright prevents that right? oh, wait... you again speak of being misattributed and not wrongly derived.Jan 03 20:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How #Copyright Industries Con Congress - http://bit.ly/x3N41R great, meticulous debunking of ridiculous "piracy harm" numbersJan 03 20:33
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prurigroGuten TagJan 03 20:37
MinceREin Sprachschnitzer!Jan 03 20:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] once gain and please respond to this point. you are starting from the false premise that freedom is not the proper default.Jan 03 20:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] if so, then Free Software not needed so long as user can write his own Free Software. But we know this is bogus.Jan 03 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is there a virus based on a poltergeist? where instead of deleting stuff, it just throws files around randomly #malwareJan 03 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Sorry, @lxoliva but culture is anything but trivial.Jan 03 20:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @zotz once gain and please respond to this point. you are starting from the false premise that freedom is not the proper default.Jan 03 20:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Yes, that is the crux, @zotz,Jan 03 20:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @crosbie @lxoliva The natural right is to truth (against misattribution/misrepresentation implicitly/explicitly), not to prohibit cop ...Jan 03 20:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @carlopiana MPL 2.0 is out! http://ur1.ca/77dj3Jan 03 20:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Is the environment sane ? http://ur1.ca/77ihbJan 03 20:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Gov't Able To Keep Details Entirely Private In 'Public' Hearing Over Twitter Subpoena - http://bit.ly/whQj9m make yourself at home, Kafka...Jan 03 20:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Aptosid 2011-03 comes with Linux 3.1 kernel - The H Open Source - #floss #gnulinux http://goo.gl/8bvMLJan 03 21:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz no, I'm not starting from there. determining what is freedom, what is power, what's right/ok/wrong comes firstJan 03 21:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Got a #privacy complaint? @PrivacyToday wants to hear about it. https://eff.org/r.N9jJan 03 21:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Mozilla Public License 2.0 released. Much to learn from, aspire to in CC 4.0 licenses! http://ur1.ca/77ip2Jan 03 21:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Git FTW ! http://ur1.ca/77iryJan 03 21:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @robmyers We did: it's called free speech. Where copyright interferes with it like it does with the texts of software the solution is ...Jan 03 21:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz yeah, bogus and backwards. start with: how can a user use a piece of software without losing control over the computation?Jan 03 21:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @crosbie @lxoliva The flaw is in one of @RMS's 'freedoms'. See http://identi.ca/url/48415582Jan 03 21:11
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prurigroMinceR, is my German not up to snuff? :)Jan 03 21:17
MinceRit was, but it made me think of Hans Grosse, so i replied with a quote from Trans Grosse :>Jan 03 21:18
prurigrohaha, kk, good to know :) Trans Grosse = wolfenstein 3d?Jan 03 21:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Chile Forbids Carriers From Selling Network-Locked Phones - Slashdot - #mobile http://goo.gl/lUhxgJan 03 21:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] No Nonsense Guide to CIA officers in Lebanon: 1) http://t.co/Gpr40TS5 2) http://t.co/x3BVwBaY 3) http://t.co/yCYahZkiJan 03 21:21
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prurigroMinceR, http://wolfenstein.wikia.com/wiki/Trans_GrosseJan 03 21:23
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MinceR:)Jan 03 21:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Why do you get to control your computer but I don't get to control my art? That is a "I get to but you don't because I said so" argument.Jan 03 21:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] WCAG Techniques Updated - Learn about the informative guidance http://ow.ly/1gw7vDJan 03 21:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Your computer & software were invented and probably manufactured by someone else. Existing law says you have 0 freedom to tinker.Jan 03 21:36
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schestowitzprurigro: wbJan 03 21:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Egypt: Activists take legal action against Wafd paper for distorting WikiLeaks cable http://t.co/VEcx6oyGJan 03 21:41
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prurigroschestowitz, thx-- how goes?Jan 03 21:41
schestowitzvery wellJan 03 21:42
schestowitzjust watched Little FockersJan 03 21:42
prurigrohaha, how was that?Jan 03 21:42
schestowitzand cleaned the houseJan 03 21:42
schestowitzit was so and soJan 03 21:42
schestowitzThen previous two part of this film series were betterJan 03 21:42
prurigrooh nice- cleaning the house always leaves a good feeling eh? and hmm, that's about what I expected hahaJan 03 21:42
schestowitzyes, it's done withJan 03 21:42
prurigrothey even talked about milking it in the commercial if I recallJan 03 21:43
schestowitzyeahJan 03 21:43
schestowitzthe endorsements?Jan 03 21:43
prurigroyea-- they were joking of courseJan 03 21:43
prurigrobut I think there was some comparison to giving milk to children and how they were milking the seriesJan 03 21:43
schestowitzOh, I'm not sure I followJan 03 21:43
prurigroif I recall correctlyJan 03 21:43
schestowitzLike the fake boob?Jan 03 21:44
prurigromaybe!Jan 03 21:44
schestowitzOr the milking from adverts embedded in these films?Jan 03 21:44
prurigrooh, the adverts for the film on TVJan 03 21:44
prurigrowhen it was in theatresJan 03 21:44
schestowitzI sae the first in the series ages ago, when it came outJan 03 21:44
schestowitz!google meet the fockersJan 03 21:44
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Meet the Fockers (2004) - IMDb | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0290002/Jan 03 21:44
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Meet the Fockers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meet_the_FockersJan 03 21:44
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Meet the Fockers | http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/universal/meet_the_fockers/Jan 03 21:44
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Amazon.com: Meet the Fockers (Widescreen Edition): Ben Stiller ... | http://www.amazon.com/Meet-Fockers-Widescreen-Ben-Stiller/dp/B00005JN5TJan 03 21:44
schestowitz2004Jan 03 21:44
prurigroyea, i think I caught that one around then tooJan 03 21:44
schestowitzsecond was just OK, third is weakJan 03 21:44
prurigrowas decently comicalJan 03 21:44
schestowitzNew is slow todayJan 03 21:45
prurigroand yea, that's about the transition I was expecting hahaJan 03 21:45
schestowitzSo I take advantage and take a breakJan 03 21:45
prurigroNew?Jan 03 21:45
prurigroyou see the podcast I linked to in diaspora?Jan 03 21:45
schestowitzwell, if third is weak, then it's deadJan 03 21:45
schestowitzand it's dead AFAIKJan 03 21:45
prurigrohaha xmen and spidermanJan 03 21:45
prurigrodead until rebootJan 03 21:45
schestowitzYou know a series is weak when you watch the later parts that jumped the sharksJan 03 21:45
schestowitzsharkJan 03 21:45
schestowitzAlthoughn LOTR last part was goodJan 03 21:46
schestowitzI missed part II though, heard it was poorJan 03 21:46
prurigrothe book was poor too apparentlyJan 03 21:46
prurigroit was necessary for the plot to advanceJan 03 21:46
prurigrobut obviously they couldn't make it more awesome than the thirdJan 03 21:46
schestowitzDid George Clooney kill Batman?Jan 03 21:46
prurigroso that kinda limited thingsJan 03 21:46
prurigroand hahaJan 03 21:46
schestowitzOr was it that American Psycho dude?Jan 03 21:46
prurigroit was george who killed batmanJan 03 21:47
schestowitzNot Patrick Bateman, Michael something..Jan 03 21:47
prurigroChristian Bale rebooted itJan 03 21:47
prurigroquite excellently tooJan 03 21:47
prurigrohave you not caught them?Jan 03 21:47
schestowitzI saw a bio about him, turned out he started ages ago as a kid, got harassedJan 03 21:47
prurigroacting?Jan 03 21:47
schestowitzno, I don't like suprhero filmsJan 03 21:48
prurigrooh manJan 03 21:48
schestowitzit's like a trailer with a film 'around;' itJan 03 21:48
prurigrothis isn't like the superhero films of the 80s-90sJan 03 21:48
schestowitzShowing their effects repertoire and then making some corny love story around itJan 03 21:48
prurigrothe two new batman movies and the watchmen are superhero movies I'd highly recommendJan 03 21:48
prurigrothey're more plot thick than most dramasJan 03 21:49
prurigrothink closer to american psychoJan 03 21:49
prurigrothan the clooney batman moviesJan 03 21:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Gov't OUTRAGE: #Obama officially becomes one of the worst presidents in history http://goo.gl/fsflQJan 03 21:49
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schestowitzanywayl, let's see the little news that has comeJan 03 21:50
schestowitztrickled it one might sayJan 03 21:51
schestowitz*inJan 03 21:51
prurigrocheck out that podcast I postedJan 03 21:51
schestowitzWhere? I'll put it on my portable music playerJan 03 21:51
prurigroI think you might find it hits close to home, considering you literally use social media as a social change hubJan 03 21:51
prurigroits on diasporaJan 03 21:51
prurigrobtwJan 03 21:52
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/88030257Jan 03 21:52
TechrightsBot-tr@tragedyofthecommons's status on Tuesday, 03-Jan-12 15:55:57 UTC - Identi.ca: ♺ @b0uts: L'activisme plus que jamais justifié de la !fsf "rms was right all along" http://ur1.ca/76k8hJan 03 21:52
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prurigroyup, that's the one :)Jan 03 21:52
schestowitzI saw your post in diaspora today, but not this oneJan 03 21:52
prurigroyou should use ur1.ca for your url shortening instead of google btw- they're gplJan 03 21:52
schestowitzI do tryJan 03 21:53
prurigroand yea, I ran into two relevant topics today :)Jan 03 21:53
schestowitzbut recently I started using a plasmoid for the purposeJan 03 21:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @kevingranade @lxoliva again, lack of control over ideas is the natural state, returning them to that state by subverting copyright n ...Jan 03 21:53
schestowitzit's faster than command-line python cush for is.gd URLsJan 03 21:53
prurigrooh cool, plasmoid is the app?Jan 03 21:54
MinceRplasmoid is a type of applicationJan 03 21:54
MinceRone that runs embedded in plasmaJan 03 21:54
prurigroahh, KDE stuff :)Jan 03 21:55
MinceRindeedJan 03 21:55
schestowitzkd EEE!!Jan 03 21:57
prurigrooh btw, MinceR & schestowitz: cjdns is available to test, if you guys want to help debugJan 03 21:57
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MinceRprurigro: what's that?Jan 03 21:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @crosbie @lxoliva All freedoms come first. The right freedoms are what's left when you recognise natural rights. Those freedoms are t ...Jan 03 21:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] Linux at the end of the world (our 2012 predictions) http://ur1.ca/77k35Jan 03 21:58
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prurigrooh, had I not mentioned it before? its a darknet that also connects over the internetJan 03 21:58
prurigroquantum hacking proofJan 03 21:58
prurigroencryptedJan 03 21:58
prurigrop2pJan 03 21:58
MinceRhow is it "quantum hacking proof"?Jan 03 21:58
prurigroworks over ipv4 to build a virtual ipv6 device on linux if its over the the internet, and connects on an extra piece of ipv6 if its going darknet modeJan 03 21:59
prurigroand hmm, it was explained to me and it made sense, but alas, my understanding of networking isn't good enough to recall it correctlyJan 03 21:59
prurigrocjd on #cjdns @ efnetJan 03 21:59
MinceRis it documented on the web?Jan 03 21:59
prurigrowould be able to explain it, or you could check the source/docsJan 03 22:00
prurigroyeaJan 03 22:00
prurigrolemme linkJan 03 22:00
prurigrohttps://github.com/cjdelisle/cjdnsJan 03 22:00
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schestowitzMinceR: kd eh?Jan 03 22:00
MinceRthxJan 03 22:00
prurigro:)Jan 03 22:00
prurigro"A System Is Only Secure When Nobody Has Total Control"Jan 03 22:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] http://ur1.ca/3bu0t: How Congress Has Signed Its Own Arrest Warrants in the #NDAA Citizen Arrest Act http://goo.gl/nD0uEJan 03 22:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux design needs to be out of the hands of developers http://goo.gl/OVIWp #linux #gnuJan 03 22:01
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prurigroMinceR, also, here's a template for a config: http://cjdns.pastebay.org/216957Jan 03 22:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Raspberry Pi Linux computer goes on sale on eBay http://goo.gl/s45nD #linuxJan 03 22:03
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prurigro(for cjdroute)Jan 03 22:03
schestowitzA System Is Only Secure When Nobody Has ItJan 03 22:03
prurigroand once configured you'd wanna run: gdb ./cjdroute -ex "run < ./cjdroute.conf"Jan 03 22:03
prurigroschestowitz, haha, well, 'secure' in this case means as secure as possibleJan 03 22:04
prurigrobut mostly I think he's talking about how corporations like Microsoft and governments like the US currently hold the keysJan 03 22:04
prurigroto the internet as it standsJan 03 22:04
MinceRA System Is Only Secure If It Does Not ExistJan 03 22:05
prurigrotrue security, agreed :)Jan 03 22:05
prurigroone can always find themselves in front of a terminal another can access, if anyone can access the systemJan 03 22:06
prurigroand if noone can, the what's the point of the system?Jan 03 22:06
prurigroI say we strive for that impossibility in Plato's land of perfect ideas though, no?Jan 03 22:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Lightweight Giant #Debian #XFCE http://ur1.ca/77kmt #gnu #linuxJan 03 22:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Microsoft UFC giveaway backfires as #Xbox 360 app fails during fight http://goo.gl/19ycD rofl - it wouldn't be Microsoft if it didn't failJan 03 22:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @crosbie @lxoliva One can make anything a condition, but one cannot surrender one's liberty - even in a promise. A car is property. S ...Jan 03 23:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] Hey !identica anyone has some code examples on using StatusNet's AtomPub API, instead of the twitter-compat one? Or know a client using it?Jan 03 23:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Hate #SOPA? Tell the #ESA and its members! from Destructoid by Jim Sterling http://ow.ly/8hg6e « Contact detailsJan 03 23:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] no, why start with a specific realm. Why not assume that all freedoms restricted by copyright are unethical unless proven otherwise?Jan 03 23:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] hey @mtux, question... does !Choqok still use the twitter-compat API for StatusNet (which is what the website says)?Jan 03 23:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz I'm speaking of how the free software definition, reused by free culture, came aboutJan 03 23:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz I wouldn't disagree with that assumption, once we've determined what the freedoms restricted by copyright areJan 03 23:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz I don't want to assume a legitimacy or illegitimacy of any of the rights or powers; that would be a bias hard to defendJan 03 23:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] http://ur1.ca/77ml2 - clarifications and improvements welcome. @laurelrusswurm @robmyers @mlinksva @crosbieJan 03 23:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @zotz http://ur1.ca/77ml2 - clarifications and improvements welcome. @laurelrusswurm @robmyers @mlinksva @crosbieJan 03 23:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] nevermind, I got my answer by looking at the source :PJan 03 23:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Thanks @zotz... very nice job.Jan 03 23:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Stable kernels 3.0.15 and 3.1.7 http://ur1.ca/77musJan 03 23:34
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twitterlolJan 03 23:44
twitterMicrosoft surrenders .NETJan 03 23:44
twitterhttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/microsoft-to-turn-net-micro-framework-code-support-over-to-the-community/2701Jan 03 23:45
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brendynthey have a community?Jan 03 23:45
Guest13764plenty of trollsJan 03 23:45
Guest13764I don't think they will be good at code upkeepJan 03 23:45
Guest13764it leave Mono even further out of luck, of course.Jan 03 23:46
Guest13764MJF describes the abandonment of .NET, "Microsoft disagrees with my characterization of this move as "withdrawing from the business." But I'm standing by what I said, while making it clear company officials didn't say they are withdrawing. To me, if you cut a bunch of a team and turn your source code over to external parties, you are not signaling that you're continuing to stand firmly behind a product...."Jan 03 23:47
Guest13764Well, that is all I had.  Enjoy.Jan 03 23:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] you are still looking at it wrong, assume any restrictions you want to place on another are wrong. Now justify them if possible.Jan 03 23:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] copyright law puts restrictions on people. you already hold some of them to be unethical. therefore assume all are unless proven otherwiseJan 03 23:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz so... stealing, killing, and other restrictions placed on others are wrong? sorry, I don't agree with that sort of reasoningJan 03 23:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz that's why I say we have to first determine what the freedoms are, that don't trample on others' freedomsJan 03 23:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] doneJan 03 23:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz I don't buy that either. the ones I hold as unethical are so by proof, not faith or groundless assumptionJan 03 23:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] problem is you hold that "unethicalness" of restrictions needs proof while I maintain here that "ethicalness" of restrictions needs proof.Jan 03 23:59

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