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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Political philosophy: WikiLeaks as liquid politics http://t.co/SB9Tw6dg | Jan 08 00:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Hitler reacts to #SOPA. - YouTube http://ur1.ca/6x19w | Jan 08 00:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The charming Prof. Ferrada Noli is in hospital http://t.co/ADdhkgXk | Jan 08 00:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] UCWEB joined W3C - UCWEB joined as a new W3C Member. http://ow.ly/1gAQ3R | Jan 08 00:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] You Don't Need A College Degree to Be a Great Coder http://ping.fm/zjNs9 | Jan 08 00:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] This machine kills Facebook. | Jan 08 00:29 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: You Don't Need A College Degree to Be a Great Coder .::. Size~: 41.11 KB | Jan 08 00:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Video: The US government attack on WikiLeaks related Twitter accounts https://t.co/9ODhOIGs | Jan 08 00:30 | |
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| FFD | If one were seeking to ask what Mr.Herd would do, where should I look? | Jan 08 00:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Two elites: How Assange fell into the Swedish Duckpond http://t.co/t4ZNkHAt | Jan 08 00:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Lamar Smith: if you oppose SOPA, you don't matter http://identi.ca/url/64172110 !eff | Jan 08 00:44 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Lamar Smith: if you oppose SOPA, you don't matter - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 27.16 KB | Jan 08 00:44 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] MehrNews.com - #Iran, world, political, sport, economic news and headlines http://goo.gl/6CX8F | Jan 08 00:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ piratepartyca: @PartidoPirataAr We currently do not have a stance on issues outside information law. What are your views? | Jan 08 00:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Iran, #Russia Replace Dollar with National Currencies in Trade Exchanges - #bankingsystem http://goo.gl/x5VSp | Jan 08 00:47 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: MehrNews.com - Iran, world, political, sport, economic news and headlines .::. Size~: 29.91 KB | Jan 08 00:47 |
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| schestowitz | I have spent the past week or so organising material from 2011. This includes the code, which can be run by any use account on any of the computational servers, simply by going to my home directory, /home/schestow/, then running the non-binary executable called mb (./mb). | Jan 08 00:48 |
| schestowitz | \0/ | Jan 08 00:49 |
| schestowitz | now I can blog more once again | Jan 08 00:49 |
| schestowitz | Easy-to-run code and 535 pages | Jan 08 00:56 |
| schestowitz | I'll publish them shortly | Jan 08 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | I got an RAR file, found both CDs were each one big APE file | Jan 08 01:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] When You Have To Buy Their Love, You’ve Lost | TechCrunch - #msnokia #crashandburn http://goo.gl/xRwrE | Jan 08 01:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @ovigia #Iran, #Russia Replace Dollar with National Currencies in Trade Exchanges - #bankingsystem http://ur1.ca/7bsl1 | Jan 08 01:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: When You Have To Buy Their Love, You’ve Lost | TechCrunch .::. Size~: 63.97 KB | Jan 08 01:00 |
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| DaemonFC | they had CUE files pointing to the WAVE file they made the APE files from | Jan 08 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | and I have just now managed to get to the point where I could break them up and convert them to Vorbis | Jan 08 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | sun, sex, sin, divine intervention, death, and destruction | Jan 08 01:08 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Jan 08 01:08 |
| *DaemonFC is listening to The Sodom and Gomorrah Show by Pet Shop Boys on Fundamental CD1 [Amarok] | Jan 08 01:08 | |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jan 08 01:10 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/AndroidFixation/statuses/155818632591572992 | Jan 08 01:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @AndroidFixation: Techrights Outfit Called To Boycott Apple. http://t.co/kqtBFWWT | Jan 08 01:23 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Updated timeline of US vs Wikileaks, Assange & Manning http://t.co/LVV2AIOE | Jan 08 01:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] TechBytes Episode 66: First of the Second Series http://is.gd/SgNWd3 #TechBytes | Jan 08 01:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] TechBytes Episode 66: First of the Second Series http://is.gd/SgNWd3 !TechBytes | Jan 08 01:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[techbytes/@techbytes] TechBytes Episode 66: First of the Second Series http://is.gd/SgNWd3 | Jan 08 01:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bytesmedia/@bytesmedia] TechBytes Episode 66: First of the Second Series http://is.gd/SgNWd3 | Jan 08 01:37 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: TechBytes Episode 66: First of the Second Series | Techrights .::. Size~: 82.16 KB | Jan 08 01:37 |
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| *_Goblin gives channel operator status to sebsebseb | Jan 08 01:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Video: Ron Paul on Julian Assange http://t.co/iKoFlJG5 | Jan 08 01:40 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/claudiom72/status/155457924683149313 | Jan 08 01:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @claudiom72: @schestowitz I sure hope so. Tried to give GNOME 3.2 a try and went right back to Xfce. | Jan 08 01:41 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LucidGlow/status/155425150072930304 | Jan 08 01:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @LucidGlow: @schestowitz very good news for him and for us. #FuckApple | Jan 08 01:41 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/88252928 https://identi.ca/notice/88251663 | Jan 08 01:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Sander (sandersch)'s status on Saturday, 07-Jan-12 11:39:13 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I have a Dell PowerEdge T310 which also works very nice & cheap. It's also a shame some vendors are primarily foccus on the US | Jan 08 01:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Gordon Sinclair (thistleweb)'s status on Saturday, 07-Jan-12 11:01:17 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz they shoulda used !Linux or #BSD servers to host their source code lol | Jan 08 01:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Direct download as Ogg (0:59:28, 11.9 MB) | High-quality MP3 (21.4 MB) | Low-quality MP3 (6.8 MB) Summary: Ti http://ur1.ca/7btnu | Jan 08 01:42 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » TechBytes Episode 66: Linux, Android, WebOS, Apple, and Patents .::. Size~: 36.05 KB | Jan 08 01:42 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: oh ok nice another Techbytes episode? | Jan 08 01:42 |
| sebsebseb | still got some to catch up on | Jan 08 01:43 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, for sure | Jan 08 01:43 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: was wondering when there would be another | Jan 08 01:43 |
| sebsebseb | since there hadn't been any since November | Jan 08 01:43 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: also some time after FOSDEM, I'll want to go on again :D by the way | Jan 08 01:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[techbytes/@techbytes] Direct download as Ogg (0:59:28, 11.9 MB) | High-quality MP3 (21.4 MB) | Low-quality MP3 (6.8 MB) Summary: Tim, Rusty a http://ur1.ca/7btq2 | Jan 08 01:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bytesmedia/@bytesmedia] Direct download as Ogg (0:59:28, 11.9 MB) | High-quality MP3 (21.4 MB) | Low-quality MP3 (6.8 MB) Summary: Tim, Rusty a http://ur1.ca/7btq2 | Jan 08 01:45 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bytes Media - TechBytes Episode 66: Android and Consoles .::. Size~: 40.68 KB | Jan 08 01:45 |
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| schestowitz | Cool, with Tim on as well | Jan 08 01:46 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Sweden: No paragon of justice http://t.co/OROXYG6A #svpol | Jan 08 01:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Tips for people who want to support Julian #Assange at the Supreme Court, Feb 1&2 http://t.co/bwaYlEq5 #WikiLeaks | Jan 08 02:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: RT @Asher_Wolf @suigenerisjen Declassified docs show #US supported #Indonesia's heavy-handed takeover of #WestPapua>>how charm | Jan 08 02:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: 400 days of banking blockade - no process Assange: 397 detained - no charge Manning: 594 jail - no trial https://t.co/OrcGw137 | Jan 08 02:10 | |
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| XFaCE | hi sebsebseb | Jan 08 02:22 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Anyone know what was the first significant non- #Apache Software Foundation project to use the Apache License 2.0? | Jan 08 02:22 | |
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| sebsebseb | XFaCE: hi | Jan 08 02:29 |
| XFaCE | how is it going? | Jan 08 02:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] Coming to #LCA2012 via train? Add your name to the list so we know when to expect you at Ballarat train station :-) http://bit.ly/AsLbMP | Jan 08 02:30 | |
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| sebsebseb | XFaCE: okish | Jan 08 02:31 |
| XFaCE | hmm? | Jan 08 02:31 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @neustradamus !Epiphany 3.2.1 has been released http://ur1.ca/5g4gf | Jan 08 02:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Woah, !Epiphany is now as fast as !Firefox and !Chromium for me! I'm switching back [= | Jan 08 02:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Agreed ! http://ur1.ca/7bvha | Jan 08 02:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jeff Jarvis - Google+ - In this NY Times story about 1% of users taking up half of… .::. Size~: 166.33 KB | Jan 08 02:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] "Google needs there to be an open, high quality, and widely deployed OS for our own apps and services, full stop. That... http://b1t.it/aqPX | Jan 08 03:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nandan Vaidya - Google+ - This is exactly how it works, and is the right way to think… .::. Size~: 53.3 KB | Jan 08 03:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] The next is that we display the text version of your location ("Silicon Valley") in the feed, but not the lat/lon. | Jan 08 03:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] The third is that we hide the text version of the location in the feed, but leave it on your profile page. | Jan 08 03:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] The last is that we hide the text and lat/lon version of location everywhere -- your profile, your feeds, profile lists, search. | Jan 08 03:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] The "share my current location when posting notices" checkbox seems pretty specific to me, though. | Jan 08 03:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Listening to @Allison_Crowe "Midnight" !CC by-nc-sa http://music.allisoncrowe.com/track/midnight | Jan 08 03:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Shared a post "What have you agreed to? This site will show you. If you use Facebook, Twitter, Google, Yahoo, DropBox... http://b1t.it/aqQ5 | Jan 08 04:04 | |
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| XFaCE | sebsebseb: why only ok? | Jan 08 04:05 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] OK, but let's be clear: there is no "share my location" checkbox. | Jan 08 04:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @brashley46 Michael Geist: Help Preserve the Canadian Public Domain http://bit.ly/wOw58H http://b1t.it/aqQy | Jan 08 04:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I think your avatar is still giving away some location information, however. B-) | Jan 08 04:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @evan when "location" was first rolled out in #oldidentica I enabled it to try out and *eventually* managed to turn it emphatically off.... | Jan 08 04:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @evan ...and can think of nothing that would've persuaded me to turn on location sharing in #newidentica; was on when i looked yesterday ... | Jan 08 04:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @evan ...so i turned it off (which it wouldn't allow until I selected a timezone) It appears to be off now. | Jan 08 04:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[hisdudeness/@hisdudeness] ♻ @wikileaks: #US judge rules that #Twitter must hand over information on !WikiLeaks supporters http://t.co/HeJf4Xwi https://t.co/xWcS5ckQ | Jan 08 04:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @hisdudeness ♻ @wikileaks: #US judge rules that #Twitter must hand over information on !WikiLeaks supporters http://t.co/HeJf4Xwi htt ... | Jan 08 04:35 | |
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| *sebsebseb is now known as Sebsebseb | Jan 08 04:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Let me check; it may have been an error on database import when we moved to the new data centre. | Jan 08 04:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @uagglionitaday !COPYRIGHT LAW http://www.ur1.ca/7by7x ▸ Top stories today via @airvpn @eljojogringo @laurelrusswurm | Jan 08 04:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @evan OK. thanks | Jan 08 04:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Nope; I've got about 20K no-shares and about 90K shares in there. Not a data load bug. | Jan 08 04:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @irons "Cool Hand Luke" Blu-ray offers 5 yrs in prison for copying it. That's the weirdest promotional tie-in I've ever seen. !copyright | Jan 08 04:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @evan Is sharing location the default? | Jan 08 04:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] HTTPS is supported for some pages on identi.ca. It's supported for all pages on private sites on status.net. | Jan 08 04:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[hisdudeness/@hisdudeness] ♻ @wikileaks: NATO head threatened by torture scandal http://t.co/TIuDHNoy !iraq !nato !wikileaks | Jan 08 05:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Listening to @joshwoodward "Let It In" from his terrific "Ashes" http://www.ur1.ca/7byjq | Jan 08 05:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Boycott #SOPA http://ur1.ca/7bywi http://ur1.ca/7bywj | Jan 08 05:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] !listening to Lucky Thompson !jazz | Jan 08 05:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] FoWL = Friends of WikiLeaks (so you don't *have* to risk your privacy on Facebook or the DOJ on Twitter) https://wlfriends.org/ | Jan 08 05:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: TPP draft requires Canada to block new public domain works until at least 2032. Comments open until Feb 14 http://t.co/cygZOMct | Jan 08 05:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: RT @timoreilly: Regulatory capture at work-AAP applauds @darrellissa for a bill blocking open access https://t.co/EtfwQRF5 | Jan 08 05:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: Ottawa prepares to launch anti-spam centre http://t.co/KJdQRCOV | Jan 08 05:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: RT @ColinLachance: Telus/Shaw battle shows how uncompetitive and apathetic Bell/Rogers are. http://t.co/AR427aWL | Jan 08 05:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I've been posting #photos on Tumblr ... I particularly like this one (make a cool album cover) !cc #by-sa http://tumblr.com/ZMDc9xERVZJg | Jan 08 05:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] Beautiful. :) | Jan 08 05:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] Probably has something to do with Freemasons. #catspiracytheory | Jan 08 05:27 | |
| XFaCE | Diablo-D3: And Ender floodattacks in 5...4...3...2... | Jan 08 05:28 |
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| Diablo-D3 | ? | Jan 08 05:32 |
| XFaCE | [00:26] -TRIdentica/#techrights- [xface/@xface] Probably has something to do with Freemasons. #catspiracytheory | Jan 08 05:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | lol? | Jan 08 05:40 |
| XFaCE | Diablo-D3: Yeah... lol | Jan 08 05:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Comical http://ur1.ca/7bzjk | Jan 08 05:49 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: FC Barcelona - Cheaters, Liers, Actors ?? ALL true *for FCB Supporters - YouTube .::. Size~: 132.68 KB | Jan 08 05:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @xface "witter post link problem" as in links in posts repeated from T are often broken? I think that's a T-problem | Jan 08 06:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @xface Thank you. | Jan 08 06:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @neptune78 "Robots are all around us. They don't necessarily have arms and legs." -- Douglas Mulhall !q | Jan 08 06:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @unsub The Next Web: Gutsy web designer launches ‘Take Me to Silicon Valley’ as his resume http://goo.gl/mag/Lu6PJ | Jan 08 06:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !tzag and good morning, @zahra | Jan 08 06:07 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Gutsy Designer Launches Site as his Resume .::. Size~: 91.17 KB | Jan 08 06:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Is "bibliothèque" really how one refers to a *software* library in #French / #français ? | Jan 08 06:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @aurele Want to comit suicide? or a murder? start to kill SOPA http://ur1.ca/7c0b0 #Liberty #Free #Speech #Human #Rights #Freedom | Jan 08 06:35 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Don't Censor the Net - Defeat SOPA and PROTECT IP » Submissions .::. Size~: 12.38 KB | Jan 08 06:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Just looking at pictures of my new grand niece #whyiamonfacebook !silver | Jan 08 06:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzag Identizens. | Jan 08 08:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @boycottnovell TechBytes Episode 66: First of the Second Series http://ur1.ca/7c2ao !TechBytes | Jan 08 08:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] New #linux #kernel: 2.6.32.53 http://bit.ly/x8sZzS 3.0.16 http://bit.ly/zKPLCN 3.1.8 http://bit.ly/xdq2Td #stable #longterm | Jan 08 08:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] On G+, @gregkh said: "I'll probably only do one more 3.1.x kernel release, so you should all be moving to 3.2 as […]" http://bit.ly/yFeEeX | Jan 08 08:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Just noticed in Email BBC reply to my complaint about their programme 'Saints & scroungers' & lack of coverage of white collar crime | Jan 08 08:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Hmm. 30 storey mag-9 quake-resistant building built in 360 hours. http://ur1.ca/7c39g #fb | Jan 08 09:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] TechBytes Audiocast – Back for 2012! – A pre-Year 2 broadcast! http://goo.gl/0Vfvv | Jan 08 09:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The British PM's mouth continues to get him into trouble. He could have a form of political Tourettes Syndrome himself. | Jan 08 09:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Techbytes I liked the musical breaks in the audiocast. | Jan 08 09:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The media coverage of the Thatcher film is bringing decades old feelings right back to the surface. | Jan 08 09:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Free Expression: Five Questions with Jack Balkin - http://bit.ly/w5F35M great points about #SOPA #law | Jan 08 09:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Nokia Moves To Quash Barnes and Noble's Letter of Request the ITC Sent to Finland Re Discovery - http://bit.ly/wS4cC4 something to hide? | Jan 08 09:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Monbéqui. Maïs OGM : un commando d'apiculteurs envahit #Monsanto - http://bit.ly/ABXY6R what larks #gm #bees | Jan 08 09:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] I think he has an identi.ca one.... | Jan 08 09:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Capitalism How can everyone profit from interaction with others? It denies the laws of physics. It's a system of victors and victims. | Jan 08 09:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Oily Politics - http://bit.ly/xRZErS some background on #tarsands from Canadian Tim Bray | Jan 08 09:54 | |
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| schestowitz | Morning all | Jan 08 09:57 |
| schestowitz | I overslept... by far | Jan 08 09:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] US Citizens Should Try The #Copyright Monopoly As Unconstitutional - http://bit.ly/xCBYnl a meme worth spreading | Jan 08 09:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] For those who missed it, TechBytes Episode 66 it out http://ur1.ca/7btnu #TechBytes | Jan 08 10:00 | |
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| schestowitz | disapora has gone crazy again | Jan 08 10:04 |
| schestowitz | autorefreshing infinitely | Jan 08 10:04 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Its up for debate, maybe we will just have fewer of them....hmm... | Jan 08 10:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 1000 Recordings to Hear Before You Die: A #Spotify Playlist after Tom Moon's Book - http://bit.ly/x3MMop wonderfully eclectic | Jan 08 10:09 | |
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| MinceR | geekings | Jan 08 10:09 |
| schestowitz | right back at cha | Jan 08 10:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] Thoughts on #KDE activities and workspaces http://www.ur1.ca/7c4mq | Jan 08 10:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Android app scans products, reveals SOPA support status of creator http://identi.ca/url/64185482 !eff | Jan 08 10:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Give Red Hat Enterprise Virtualization 3.0 a try NOW - http://ur1.ca/6q447 #fb | Jan 08 10:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] CNN covers SOPA, story is/was on front page http://identi.ca/url/64199459 !eff | Jan 08 10:42 | |
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| schestowitz | I mistakenly set the file to the wrong permissions. Try now: | Jan 08 10:52 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Research/GMDS/Documents/2011/primer/primer.pdf | Jan 08 10:52 |
| schestowitz | I also made an HTML version to overcome file size issues: | Jan 08 10:52 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Research/GMDS/Documents/2011/primer/ | Jan 08 10:53 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Debian and popularity ⤳ eyrie http://ping.fm/sZjv2 | Jan 08 11:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @rms US Amabassador http://ur1.ca/7c6bw | Jan 08 11:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] I would like to be, but I am not yet convinced. What is very clear is that the 1st and 4th at minimum creates and mandates fair use | Jan 08 11:55 | |
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| Shadowww | http://www.overclock.net/t/569458/microsoft-attack-linux-at-the-retail-level-probably-not-56k-friendly | Jan 08 11:56 |
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| freelord | http://bit.ly/twhzIs | Jan 08 11:58 |
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| RMS | http://bit.ly/twhzIs | Jan 08 11:58 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] !Polska - kraj w którym biedronki są większe od żabek. !lol | Jan 08 11:59 | |
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| peterfreebee | http://tmrepository.com/fudtracker/ | Jan 08 12:02 |
| peterfreebee | wow have you seen this? | Jan 08 12:02 |
| cubezzz | peterfreebee, nasty stuff | Jan 08 12:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @silner !Debian and popularity ⤳ eyrie http://ur1.ca/7c6xm | Jan 08 12:09 | |
| cubezzz | seems like it's a mix of negative and positive though | Jan 08 12:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is it just me or is #TechBytes kinda quiet? except for the attention seeking phone | Jan 08 12:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Randi has a new audiocast called "For Good Reason" http://is.gd/kyYGlV Very good, educational. | Jan 08 12:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Nokia Moves To Quash Barnes and Noble's Letter of Request the ITC Sent to Finland Re Discovery ~pj http://goo.gl/n6dUC | Jan 08 12:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Leaked Memo Says #Apple Provides Backdoor To Governments http://goo.gl/WMK17 - hate to say "I told you so" but..... | Jan 08 12:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Microsoft Scraps 'Where's My Phone Update?' Site http://goo.gl/0ZPYd isn't that one of the sticks they chose to hit #Android with? | Jan 08 12:25 | |
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| iophk | http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/454/mr-daisey-and-the-apple-factory | Jan 08 12:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Free Wifi Network In #London Will Be “Europe’s Largest” - http://bit.ly/xUdWIM that's nice, but what about security issues? | Jan 08 12:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] except that that is obvious... | Jan 08 12:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] worth considering, though | Jan 08 12:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] OMG! Want one! OLPC tablets! http://ur1.ca/7c8bn | Jan 08 13:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsmag/@fsmag] Do we need a Hackerspace Global Grid to make an Uncensorable internet in space? http://fsmsh.com/3665 | Jan 08 13:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] PAC Manager, Perl/Gtk approach to connections managing - #admin #flosstools #gnullinux http://goo.gl/LcXt7 | Jan 08 13:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] xVideoServiceThief Official Web site - #flosstools #gnulinux #video http://ur1.ca/7c8pj | Jan 08 13:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] Want to host the next LibreOffice Conference? http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/CallforLocation !libo !tdf | Jan 08 13:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Mobile #VPN: staying secure on the go - http://bit.ly/yUODOK talking of #security and #wifi (v @Codepope) | Jan 08 13:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Leaked Memo Says #Apple Provides Backdoor To Governments http://goo.gl/ORgRO | Jan 08 13:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] World building 301: some projections - http://bit.ly/AdBRAZ Charlie Stross: exciting predictions for 2032; pretty frightening for 2092 | Jan 08 14:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] cryptogon.com » Feds Want Judge to Force Suspect to Give Up Laptop Password - #usa #policestate #privacy http://goo.gl/RFxnO | Jan 08 14:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Time for #coffee and #yogurt. #YoCo | Jan 08 15:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] List: Important New Emoticons(McSweeney’s): http://bit.ly/wZmsHG | Jan 08 15:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] RT @evan This machine kills Facebook. | Jan 08 15:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @Dyfet @Glynmoody I thought monopolies was an aspect of USSR behaviour the democracies did not like. | Jan 08 15:34 | |
| DaemonFC | How did Tuxera end up writing a proprietary XFS driver? | Jan 08 15:36 |
| DaemonFC | more importantly, who would want that? | Jan 08 15:36 |
| DaemonFC | the one included in Linux is GPL licensed and very well maintained | Jan 08 15:37 |
| iophk | Because Tuxera is a MS shop. | Jan 08 15:37 |
| DaemonFC | you figure Tuxera XFS is just a clone of the SGI XFS for Linux tree and rejiggered as an IFS driver for Windows? | Jan 08 15:38 |
| iophk | One of their goals appears to be the promotion of proprietary software in Linux, software patents in general, and in particular, MS patent. | Jan 08 15:38 |
| DaemonFC | isn't that illegal? | Jan 08 15:38 |
| iophk | It could be illegal. | Jan 08 15:38 |
| DaemonFC | and if they wrote their own, I doubt it performs as well or is as reliable as the existing one | Jan 08 15:38 |
| DaemonFC | the GPL one has over 18 years of development work | Jan 08 15:39 |
| DaemonFC | starting from scratch and getting something that rivals the open source one would be very difficult | Jan 08 15:39 |
| iophk | Half-assed work is a hallmark of MS shops. | Jan 08 15:39 |
| DaemonFC | SGI XFS is only available under two licenses, 1. Under the proprietary terms of IRIX, for use in IRIX. | Jan 08 15:40 |
| DaemonFC | and 2. Under the GPL version 2, only | Jan 08 15:40 |
| DaemonFC | so Tuxera's is either illegal or halfassed | Jan 08 15:40 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder if it would be possible to prove that they have stolen GPL'd source code for Tuxera XFS and to get the copyright holders on XFS after them about it | Jan 08 15:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] yes, curious that those who claim to love the market also love monopolies... | Jan 08 15:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] You Can’t Spell Media Without “Me” (TechCrunch): http://tcrn.ch/xJFM9E | Jan 08 15:42 | |
| DaemonFC | [10:42] --> You have joined the channel #xfs (~ryan@unaffiliated/daemonfc). | Jan 08 15:43 |
| DaemonFC | [10:42] *** The channel topic is "XFS - The Black Leather Jacket of filesystems :: Not a horrible filesystem :: XFS tutorial - http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/training/index.html". | Jan 08 15:43 |
| DaemonFC | [10:42] *** The topic was set by esandeen on 01/14/08 11:42 PM. | Jan 08 15:43 |
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| DaemonFC | [10:42] <DaemonFC> sandeen`: poke | Jan 08 15:43 |
| DaemonFC | [10:42] <DaemonFC> http://www.tuxera.com/products/tuxera-xfs-enterprise/ | Jan 08 15:43 |
| DaemonFC | [10:42] <DaemonFC> is this stolen GPL'd code or halfassed from scratch? | Jan 08 15:43 |
| DaemonFC | he should know | Jan 08 15:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Tugaleaks - Assunção Esteves: não é só a reforma dos 7.000EUR que incomoda o povo - #pt #poucavergonha http://goo.gl/pQk1Z | Jan 08 15:47 | |
| DaemonFC | [10:46] <elder> Won't be from scratch. | Jan 08 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | [10:46] <DaemonFC> is it a GPL violation? | Jan 08 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | [10:46] <elder> Are they keeping it closed? | Jan 08 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | [10:47] <elder> (Sorry, I'm only vaguely familiar with Tuxera) | Jan 08 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | [10:47] <DaemonFC> They won't discuss licensing unless you contact their sales department | Jan 08 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | [10:47] <DaemonFC> I have been unable to find out if you get the source code under the GPL if you receive their XFS driver from them | Jan 08 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | [10:48] <DaemonFC> and that would only solve one possible GPL problem | Jan 08 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | [10:48] <elder> Maybe bpm should discuss this with his management to see if they want to pursue it. | Jan 08 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | [10:48] <DaemonFC> if they're using it as an IFS for Windows, that would make XFS a combined work of the Windows NT kernel | Jan 08 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | [10:48] <DaemonFC> and they'd be violating the license of XFS anyway | Jan 08 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | [10:48] <elder> Interesting. | Jan 08 15:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Simpsons not my cup of tea but this was funny. Kid at dentist frightened into dental care by being shown the 'Book of British Smiles.' | Jan 08 15:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Great Firewall Tor Probing Circa 09 DEC 2011: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/knock-knock-knockin-bridges-doors | Jan 08 15:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Using Tor hidden services for good: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/using-tor-good | Jan 08 15:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] you've noticed that huh? Well monopolies for themselves at least. I doubt they would like for me to have one on food production/distribution | Jan 08 15:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] SE #Android Released by #NSA - http://bit.ly/AhuM1j "to limit the damage by flawed or malicious apps" (v @AaronToponce @jasonbrooks) | Jan 08 16:00 | |
| DaemonFC | [10:53] <tlonim> hmm.. i have seen other XFS's in wild too.. thought they may have been licensed or something | Jan 08 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | [10:55] <DaemonFC> well, there is an implementation under the FreeBSD license, for a FreeBSD XFS implementation | Jan 08 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | [10:55] <DaemonFC> that seems to be alright though, they didn't take any GPL licensed code | Jan 08 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | [10:55] <DaemonFC> and the driver they wrote is crap anyway | Jan 08 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | [10:55] <DaemonFC> the only thing it can do reliably is mount an existing XFS file system as read only | Jan 08 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | [10:56] <DaemonFC> I'm not even sure it is still actively developed | Jan 08 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | [10:57] <DaemonFC> it's much easier to get read only support in a file system driver than it is to try to write things to it or create that file system type from scratch | Jan 08 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | [10:57] <DaemonFC> and XFS for FreeBSD does neither | Jan 08 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | [10:58] <DaemonFC> Tuxera is implying that they have a full implementation of XFS, won't tell where they got it from | Jan 08 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | [10:58] <DaemonFC> that makes me suspicious | Jan 08 16:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Talking about dice. I would have been even more impressed with the Indians if they had gone for base 8 or 16. | Jan 08 16:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] What is Role of the 'Open Source' Movement in Society Today? - #ogov: "Collaboration, Open Solutions, & Innovation (COSI)" (v @framasoft) | Jan 08 16:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !tzag and good morning !identiverse | Jan 08 16:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I'm using DuckDuckGo as my primary search engine (you should too) http://duckduckgo.com/>> psst @duckduckgo you need !identica share buttons | Jan 08 16:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] :P | Jan 08 16:29 | |
| DaemonFC | Tuxera's exFAT performance demonstration is misleading | Jan 08 16:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] Those who often preach "free" markets seek instead the freedom to exploit others. But I was considering the constitutional viewpoint | Jan 08 16:30 | |
| DaemonFC | most flash storage isn't even fast enough to keep up with FAT32 | Jan 08 16:31 |
| DaemonFC | "By default windows systems can only format a drive up to 32 GB. Additional software works around this issue. When formatted at these bigger sizes, FAT32 becomes increasingly inefficient." | Jan 08 16:32 |
| DaemonFC | Linux can format a FAT32 partition up to two terabytes | Jan 08 16:32 |
| DaemonFC | at 32 GB, it is already using 64K clusters | Jan 08 16:32 |
| DaemonFC | this isn't really a problem since people tend to store huge files anyway | Jan 08 16:33 |
| DaemonFC | if you lose 63K because you stored a text file, that is wasteful | Jan 08 16:33 |
| DaemonFC | if you lose 63K because you just stored a 20 MB FLAC file or a 2 GB movie, it's less of an issue | Jan 08 16:33 |
| DaemonFC | it's like Alabama, everything's relative | Jan 08 16:34 |
| DaemonFC | ;) | Jan 08 16:34 |
| DaemonFC | the smaller clusters that exFAT uses was less space (maybe 3-5% of a 64 GB file system, which is where the classification of SDXC starts), but smaller clusters make for slower read and write performance | Jan 08 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | so it's quite possible that exFAT will end up performing much worse than FAT32 to use that space a little more efficiently | Jan 08 16:36 |
| DaemonFC | "The maximum file size on a FAT32 formatted drive is around 4 GB. With DVD and high resolution DVD formats now available, this limit is commonly noticed." | Jan 08 16:37 |
| DaemonFC | 4 GB minus one byte, to be precise. Most people still don't use SD cards for files that big, and if you do, use Ext2 | Jan 08 16:37 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 08 16:37 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder if Android reads XFS | Jan 08 16:40 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Boris Pasternak. | Jan 08 16:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] (as @navigium said) http://duckduckgo.com/spread.html #2 share | Jan 08 17:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Free Online #OCR - Convert JPEG, PNG, GIF, BMP, TIFF, PDF, DjVu to Text - #onlinetools http://www.newocr.com/ | Jan 08 17:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ContosProibidos: Memórias de um PS desconhecido - Tretas.org - #pt #ps #soares #books http://ur1.ca/7ccl2 | Jan 08 17:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Creating a custom home page in Drupal 7 using Views (A Padded Cell): http://bit.ly/w5nwm8 | Jan 08 17:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Is there an @DuckDuckGo account on !identica | Jan 08 17:09 | |
| Shadowww | <DaemonFC> 4 GB minus one byte, to be precise. Most people still don't use SD cards for files that big, and if you do, use Ext2 | Jan 08 17:10 |
| Shadowww | uhm no | Jan 08 17:10 |
| Shadowww | NTFS is superior to ext2 for memory cards | Jan 08 17:10 |
| Shadowww | especially due to it's file compression support, which lets you store 10 GB of documents on a 4GB card | Jan 08 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | well, NTFS is also not recognized by the SD spec | Jan 08 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | nor is Ext2, but Ext2 is supported by Android devices | Jan 08 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | while NTFS is not | Jan 08 17:11 |
| Shadowww | yeah, but NTFS is supported by WP7 devices while ext2 is not | Jan 08 17:12 |
| Shadowww | your point being?.. | Jan 08 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | I don't really care what is recognized and what isn't, I just want it to work for me | Jan 08 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | and since I don't need Windows, I don't care what it does | Jan 08 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | Windows Phone 7? | Jan 08 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | you mean what all 5 people use? | Jan 08 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 08 17:13 |
| Shadowww | oh, typical android fanboy argument | Jan 08 17:13 |
| Shadowww | see, at least it has proper apps | Jan 08 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, the world is iOS and Android | Jan 08 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | Vista Phone 7 is on the extreme fringe | Jan 08 17:13 |
| Shadowww | so? | Jan 08 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | it's generally not even used | Jan 08 17:13 |
| Shadowww | the world also is Windows and Mac OS X | Jan 08 17:14 |
| Shadowww | not Linux | Jan 08 17:14 |
| Shadowww | :) | Jan 08 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | why would I go to the trouble to use Windows Phone when there are no apps that Microsoft didn't commission? | Jan 08 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | it supports none of the software I use on Android | Jan 08 17:14 |
| Shadowww | such as? | Jan 08 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | it's technically inferior to Android | Jan 08 17:14 |
| Shadowww | LOLOLOL no | Jan 08 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | and you can only get it on a few models of phones which blow | Jan 08 17:14 |
| Shadowww | since when Android supports Microsoft Lync? | Jan 08 17:14 |
| Shadowww | right, it doesn't | Jan 08 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | there's a Lync app in the marketplace | Jan 08 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | from Microsoft | Jan 08 17:15 |
| Shadowww | which works on 1% of phones | Jan 08 17:15 |
| Shadowww | try getting it to run on Samsung i5500, for example | Jan 08 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft probably has many more users of their apps for Android than users of their own phone software, period | Jan 08 17:15 |
| Shadowww | yeah, it also earns more from Android than it does from their own phone software | Jan 08 17:16 |
| Shadowww | so it's not like they have a lot of motivation to make their phone software popular | Jan 08 17:16 |
| DaemonFC | only if you buy from a company that pays them tax | Jan 08 17:16 |
| Shadowww | which is pretty much every major manufacturer except for Motorola | Jan 08 17:16 |
| DaemonFC | no | Jan 08 17:16 |
| DaemonFC | even their own estimate was about half | Jan 08 17:17 |
| Shadowww | half of ALL, not major ones | Jan 08 17:17 |
| Shadowww | ._. | Jan 08 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | I won't buy anything from a company that is paying Microsoft to use stuff Microsoft did not invent | Jan 08 17:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Copyright unonstitutional in the #USA? ur1.ca/7cb1s /via @osamak | Jan 08 17:17 | |
| Shadowww | DaemonFC, fun fact: if they have patent on it, they did invent it | Jan 08 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | wrong | Jan 08 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | the patents don't even describe inventions they are so bad | Jan 08 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | and even if they did, then it's first one there | Jan 08 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | not necessarily the inventor | Jan 08 17:18 |
| Shadowww | if they were so bad, manufacturers wouldn't really agree to pay patent fees for them | Jan 08 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | the US patent system is so stupid they almost let someone patent the hot dog | Jan 08 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | in 2006 | Jan 08 17:18 |
| Shadowww | there's such thing as prior art | Jan 08 17:18 |
| Shadowww | the 'hot dog' patent could easily be disputed | Jan 08 17:19 |
| Shadowww | while microsoft's patents, surprisingly, can't | Jan 08 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | I don't recognize their patents | Jan 08 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | and I will not pay to license them | Jan 08 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 08 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | I don't even care what the US government says | Jan 08 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | they were bought and sold a long time ago | Jan 08 17:19 |
| Shadowww | DaemonFC, so uhm, what manufacturer your phone is made by? | Jan 08 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | you're assuming I use one | Jan 08 17:20 |
| Shadowww | <DaemonFC> it supports none of the software I use on Android | Jan 08 17:20 |
| Shadowww | > I use | Jan 08 17:20 |
| Shadowww | >on Android | Jan 08 17:20 |
| Shadowww | ahem | Jan 08 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | I don't pay Microsoft for Android on my tablet | Jan 08 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | to my knowledge anyway, it's always possible that Ballmer slithered in through some backalley deal | Jan 08 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | that's how they operate sometimes | Jan 08 17:21 |
| Shadowww | so uhm, yeah, what's mafnuacturer of your tablet then? | Jan 08 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | Archos | Jan 08 17:22 |
| DaemonFC | like I said, they don't have to tell you who they're paying to go away | Jan 08 17:22 |
| DaemonFC | so even though I was unable to find a public Microsoft extortion deal | Jan 08 17:22 |
| DaemonFC | that doesn't mean anything I buy is safe | Jan 08 17:22 |
| Shadowww | safe from? | Jan 08 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | I do stay away from the companies that make a big public spectacle of it though | Jan 08 17:23 |
| Shadowww | do you get HIV if you buy something made by let's say Samsung or HTC? | Jan 08 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | meh | Jan 08 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | they made a big deal about it but didn't disclose the terms | Jan 08 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | it's just as likely that Microsoft paid them to license Microsoft patents | Jan 08 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | so that they would cast a shadow over Android | Jan 08 17:23 |
| Shadowww | it's not like Android needs any more shadows cast over it | Jan 08 17:24 |
| DaemonFC | without the terms being disclosed openly, there's no way to say what all Microsoft has, if anything | Jan 08 17:24 |
| Shadowww | how about the fact that it's not even open source OS? (hint: honeycomb) | Jan 08 17:24 |
| DaemonFC | and there's no proof that they aren't paying other companies to say Android infringes | Jan 08 17:24 |
| DaemonFC | say I have a pack of low quality patents that describe obvious stuff that are not even inventions | Jan 08 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | I don't want to go to court and have a judge and the patent office invalidate and throw them all out | Jan 08 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | but I want to caste a shadow over my competitors with them | Jan 08 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | I go to you, which in this argument you are a collaborator with me | Jan 08 17:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] I have been using Blekko as a secondary #spamfree search, but I just learned that queries sent to #Facebook. http://ur1.ca/7ccy6 | Jan 08 17:25 | |
| DaemonFC | I slide you some money under the table along with a license to use the patents which are never disclosed publicly | Jan 08 17:26 |
| DaemonFC | you go and say that you were violating my patents but you have a license now | Jan 08 17:26 |
| DaemonFC | my goal is complete | Jan 08 17:26 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't show my handf, I bribed you, and let you cast doubt on my competitor | Jan 08 17:26 |
| DaemonFC | I believe that is what has happened | Jan 08 17:26 |
| DaemonFC | B&N disclosed some of the ridiculously low quality patents that Microsoft was threatening them with | Jan 08 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | one of them was a patent on putting a stop button in the address bar of a web browser | Jan 08 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | jesus | Jan 08 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | it's the hot dog patent | Jan 08 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | all over again | Jan 08 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 08 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | so Microsoft figured that they'd go extort B&N, B&N laughed at them and said "We'll see you in court" and publicly displayed the nonsense patents that Microsoft was trying to bully them with | Jan 08 17:28 |
| DaemonFC | so we can only assume that the existing Android licensing agreements are really just either companies ran by retards | Jan 08 17:28 |
| DaemonFC | or collaborators of Microsoft | Jan 08 17:28 |
| DaemonFC | or else they would have taken Microsoft to court before this | Jan 08 17:28 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] [Phoronix] The Zen Kernel Is Still Alive, Patching Linux 3.1 - #linux #kernel #floss http://goo.gl/OgRhl | Jan 08 17:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Red Eclipse: a Free and Open Source #FPS - #floss #games http://ur1.ca/7cd1w | Jan 08 17:32 | |
| DaemonFC | if more people refused Microsoft and made them go to court, Microsoft would cut the crap when they were tired of having more than 95% of their patents invalidated every time they tried to sue someone | Jan 08 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | and that's under the existing corrupt system we have going on in the US | Jan 08 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | with no patent reform at all | Jan 08 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | another problem is that if these companies joined the Open Innovation Network, Microsoft would go away and bother someone else | Jan 08 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | they could get out of this several ways and not end up paying Microsoft rackateering money | Jan 08 17:34 |
| DaemonFC | but the problem is that they aren't | Jan 08 17:34 |
| DaemonFC | the last thing Microsoft wants it so go to court | Jan 08 17:35 |
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| DaemonFC | so they're lining up all the soft targets and partners of theirs for patent deals | Jan 08 17:35 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @rubenslabbinck Uiteraard. Nu? Of wil je wachten tot hij werkelijk "af" is? :) | Jan 08 17:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @rubenslabbinck even wat spammers verwijderen :p | Jan 08 17:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Tuinslak oh hi! Check your inbox ;) | Jan 08 17:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Sander_R_ da's een moeilijke. Ik vraag me af wat @t1mdp zou kiezen. | Jan 08 17:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @hannesvdvreken: Dit was zo een beetje de kortste enquête die ik ooit gedaan heb. Heb je 1 minuut v http://ur1.c ... | Jan 08 17:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Tanfoglio_ ik ben pro in wandelen. Mag ik mee? Op dodentocht enzo? | Jan 08 17:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Choisissez dat kan grager. Voilà. | Jan 08 17:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @rubenslabbinck @t1mdp wat moeten mensen denken die niet weten dat jullie het over wordfeud hebben? | Jan 08 17:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @BerendWouters @woutervddn @beligum @Choisissez @owaswti amai. We worden hier direct geminimaliseerd ;) #iRail | Jan 08 17:36 | |
| *XFaCE gives voice to DaemonFC | Jan 08 17:36 | |
| *XFaCE gives voice to gnufreex | Jan 08 17:36 | |
| *XFaCE gives channel operator status to gnufreex | Jan 08 17:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @BerendWouters geen schrik, het was maar om te lachen ;) | Jan 08 17:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @freddylecue: “@djei_ict: 25 big ideas for 2012: The open-data economy (Wired UK) http://ur1.ca/7c http://ur1.ca ... | Jan 08 17:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp @hannesvdvreken ah, je dacht dat ik wist waarover ik het had? ;) | Jan 08 17:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @woutervddn laten we eerst zien hoe #stumo loopt - #link22 moet je me in februari maar eens uitleggen. http://ur1. ... | Jan 08 17:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp @hannesvdvreken dat had ik niet mogen zeggen. #windowsspamvolgers | Jan 08 17:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp In Windows Server gebruikt men overigens doorgaans de term replica ter vervanging van back-up in http://ur1. ... | Jan 08 17:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @hannesvdvreken @Tanfoglio_ Wie wilt er nu geld geven om een bende die die 100 km liever met de trein h http://ur1. ... | Jan 08 17:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @AnneCruyt gemaakt door @itpocket? Knappe koppen daar alleszins :) | Jan 08 17:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @woutervddn iRail is een enabler. Als iRail kan helpen is het een meerwaarde voor iRail ;) | Jan 08 17:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @rcallewaert: ShelfLife, een voorbeeld van hoe data gelinkt kan worden met mensen die geïnteresseer http://ur1.c ... | Jan 08 17:37 | |
| fredmanglis | DaemonFC | Jan 08 17:37 |
| XFaCE | does anyone here speak russian by any chance? | Jan 08 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | where a stop button is in a web browser should not qualify for a patent | Jan 08 17:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp ik doe m'n best. #eensgeenironie | Jan 08 17:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Future of #Firefox #Security - eSecurity Planet - #mozilla #floss http://goo.gl/0lsEs | Jan 08 17:39 | |
| DaemonFC | nor should where you put the power button on your tablet | Jan 08 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | which is something Crapple likes to sue over | Jan 08 17:39 |
| fredmanglis | DaemonFC: sorry, pressed send early. I was saying, the cost of litigation in terms of both money and time is probably the cause most people will opt to agree with MS's terms | Jan 08 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | I doubt Microsoft is getting $10-20 from most tablet makers | Jan 08 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | per tablet | Jan 08 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | for something Microsoft didn't invent or write or contribute anything at all to | Jan 08 17:40 |
| _Goblin | I would be suprised if they were not.... | Jan 08 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | if they are it's because they handed the money over to the company then the company hands it back to Microsoft | Jan 08 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | what company would play along with this nonsense for real? | Jan 08 17:42 |
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| _Goblin | well haven't HTC signed up? | Jan 08 17:43 |
| _Goblin | Samsung | Jan 08 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, that's what I mean | Jan 08 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft ends up paying itself | Jan 08 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | I hand you $10 | Jan 08 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | you hand it back | Jan 08 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | we say you paid me $10 | Jan 08 17:43 |
| _Goblin | nah..... | Jan 08 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | I bet that is what is going on if Microsoft is getting that much per tablet to begin with | Jan 08 17:43 |
| _Goblin | otherwise all mobile manufacturers could be targetted instantly, and I'd doubt anyone would object | Jan 08 17:43 |
| _Goblin | why risk a MS court battle if that was the "offer" | Jan 08 17:44 |
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| _Goblin | they could have blanketed all Mobile phone manu's in one swoop if that was the deal | Jan 08 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | maybe B&N didn't get that offer | Jan 08 17:44 |
| _Goblin | and maybe did nobody else | Jan 08 17:44 |
| _Goblin | I can see what you are saying....not impossible, but highly unlikely. | Jan 08 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | a software patent system is bad | Jan 08 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | not forcing RAND terms if you do have one makes it even more disgusting | Jan 08 17:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @jkoblovsky Boycotting SOPA supporters - There's an app for that: http://www.ur1.ca/7cdal | Jan 08 17:45 | |
| _Goblin | well yes, I think we can all agree there. | Jan 08 17:46 |
| _Goblin | except any patent lawyers.... | Jan 08 17:46 |
| _Goblin | its very good for them | Jan 08 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | without RAND, I can tell schestowitz that he has to pay me $20 per licensed device for my Patent X | Jan 08 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | and _Goblin only has to pay me $5 | Jan 08 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | it makes a bad thing worse | Jan 08 17:47 |
| _Goblin | and I'd hope you would give me the "I'll give you 5 and you give me 5".... | Jan 08 17:48 |
| _Goblin | talking of which.... | Jan 08 17:48 |
| _Goblin | if you are right...... | Jan 08 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | I say _Goblin only owes me $5 because he doesn't really compete with anything I make | Jan 08 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | but schestowitz does, so I want to use my patents to hurt his ability to compete, by singling him out | Jan 08 17:48 |
| _Goblin | and your deal exists whereby ms pay to have money given back..... | Jan 08 17:48 |
| _Goblin | what would they do if company X didn't return the money? | Jan 08 17:48 |
| _Goblin | they couldn't exactly take it to court could they? | Jan 08 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | the contract probably says they have to | Jan 08 17:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Hackers expose defence and intelligence officials in US and UK http://gu.com/p/34gn7 | Jan 08 17:49 | |
| DaemonFC | and the contract would be under NDA | Jan 08 17:49 |
| _Goblin | yes but if they didn't.... | Jan 08 17:49 |
| _Goblin | you can't have a NDA infront of a court | Jan 08 17:49 |
| _Goblin | and you can't enforce an NDA on a court audience | Jan 08 17:49 |
| _Goblin | "Your honour, Company X has breached his contract as per its terms.." ..... Judge "What are the terms" ... .Microsoft "I'm not telling you" | Jan 08 17:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Microsoft sees a future through cleaner #Windows http://gu.com/p/34gg7 how does one win an award before release exactly? | Jan 08 17:50 | |
| _Goblin | thats why I don't believe a deal such as the one you describe would exist.... | Jan 08 17:51 |
| _Goblin | its lose lose for Microsoft. | Jan 08 17:51 |
| _Goblin | they gain no money and have a very damaging court case on their hands if the company doesn't play ball. | Jan 08 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | good point | Jan 08 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | because then their scheme falls apart | Jan 08 17:51 |
| _Goblin | having said that.... | Jan 08 17:52 |
| _Goblin | I suppose also built in could be a crippling fine..... | Jan 08 17:52 |
| _Goblin | (to the NDA) | Jan 08 17:52 |
| _Goblin | so it would be M.A.D if the company reneged on the agreement. | Jan 08 17:52 |
| DaemonFC | right | Jan 08 17:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] oh wait, #Gates owns part of the #Guardian.....there's the reason for the promo piece including the award winning claim #mybad | Jan 08 17:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] or did they ask only Windows devs? they don't have much choice but to back whatever Microsoft do | Jan 08 17:52 | |
| _Goblin | MS would loose credibility....company would go boom. | Jan 08 17:52 |
| _Goblin | in a financial sense. | Jan 08 17:52 |
| DaemonFC | if Company X breaks the deal, they agree to pay Microsoft One Hundred, BILLION DOLLARS!!!! | Jan 08 17:52 |
| DaemonFC | *pinky to lip* | Jan 08 17:53 |
| _Goblin | yep.... | Jan 08 17:53 |
| _Goblin | thats why I'm torn with your idea.... | Jan 08 17:53 |
| _Goblin | Highly unlikely...not impossible though | Jan 08 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | or maybe I sweeten the pot | Jan 08 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | _Goblin: I pay you $15 per device you make | Jan 08 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | in return you pay me $10 per device, publicly | Jan 08 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | and claim it's for a patent license from me | Jan 08 17:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] So... what if the #Copyright law is unconstitutional in the United States of America? http://ur1.ca/7cb1s > "The copyr http://ur1.ca/7cdfi | Jan 08 17:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] There are many things I do not like about Ron Paul, but damn does he sound like a #SuddenOUtbreakOfCommonSense often! http://ur1.ca/7cdfl | Jan 08 17:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] "My brain is losing power," Mose Allison once sang, "1,200 neurons every hour" (SciAmerican): http://bit.ly/wkTJxt | Jan 08 17:54 | |
| DaemonFC | keep the $5 per device | Jan 08 17:54 |
| _Goblin | yes... | Jan 08 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | I thank you for assisting me | Jan 08 17:54 |
| _Goblin | thereby assisting in the claim of the validity of such a patent.... | Jan 08 17:54 |
| _Goblin | however.... | Jan 08 17:54 |
| _Goblin | the only issue with that..... | Jan 08 17:54 |
| _Goblin | nope...... | Jan 08 17:55 |
| _Goblin | scrub that... | Jan 08 17:55 |
| _Goblin | yes. | Jan 08 17:55 |
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| _Goblin | having said that.... | Jan 08 17:56 |
| _Goblin | with the popularity of such devices....would we not see that greatly impacting on MS figures? Would we some sort of "new" descrepency in the figures? | Jan 08 17:56 |
| DaemonFC | not really | Jan 08 17:57 |
| _Goblin | Don't know the sales for say HTC.......but even if they had only shifted say 2 million units....$5 a go would show up somewhere? | Jan 08 17:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] life is making the #FACup interesting for !ManUtd first Cit, now Liverpool !football ah well, ya can only play the team you draw | Jan 08 17:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @thistleweb #Microsoft sees a future through cleaner #Windows http://gu.com/p/34gg7 how does one win an award before release exactly? | Jan 08 17:57 | |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft could say the $5 was a "marketing allowance" for that company's promotion of Windows Phone | Jan 08 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | not a kickback for lying to the public about Android | Jan 08 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | they've done that before | Jan 08 17:58 |
| _Goblin | The other reason why I don't think a deal would favour the victim is that MS is going to be looking at other avenues for revenue....WP7 is not going anywhere....Win8 is about a year off, add baking time and you have a product very behind in the market..... | Jan 08 17:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @thistleweb oh wait, #Gates owns part of the #Guardian.....there's the reason for the promo piece including the award winning claim # ... | Jan 08 17:59 | |
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| _Goblin | and MS has to make money in the meantime when their cash cows of Office and Windows are being eaten into.... | Jan 08 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | keeping Windows Phone 7 around is mostly just a smoke screen | Jan 08 17:59 |
| _Goblin | they can't even make a success of Bing | Jan 08 17:59 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: BING! | Jan 08 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | for their bribes covering Android smeering | Jan 08 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | that's my thinking | Jan 08 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | *smearing | Jan 08 17:59 |
| _Goblin | I certainly think New Year 2012 is busy for MS.... the employees will be busy screwing all the chairs into the ground....I don't think Balmers in for a good year. | Jan 08 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | Windows Phone 7 is not a viable product | Jan 08 18:01 |
| _Goblin | thats a very polite way of describing it..... | Jan 08 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | it exists to cover up bribes paid for Android extortion I think | Jan 08 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | _Goblin: Windows Phone 7, I'm wondering if such a thing even exists | Jan 08 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | all of the prepaids are Android | Jan 08 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | iOS is roughly half the space on the floor in AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile stores | Jan 08 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | Android is roughly the other half | Jan 08 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | there's still a few models running Java or Symbian | Jan 08 18:03 |
| schestowitz | Hi friends | Jan 08 18:04 |
| DaemonFC | they must have one phone in the store with Windows Phone 7, that they keep in the back | Jan 08 18:04 |
| DaemonFC | in a lockbox or something | Jan 08 18:04 |
| DaemonFC | so they can claim they have it | Jan 08 18:04 |
| DaemonFC | there's clearly no customer demand for it | Jan 08 18:04 |
| DaemonFC | the real battle is between Android and Apple | Jan 08 18:04 |
| DaemonFC | and the rest are competing for also-ran slots | Jan 08 18:04 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: the sound in las episode was of good quality, IMHO. Do you agree? | Jan 08 18:04 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: google and apple | Jan 08 18:06 |
| DaemonFC | as for Android 3 not being open sourced, everything under the GPL sure was | Jan 08 18:06 |
| schestowitz | (or android and ios) | Jan 08 18:06 |
| DaemonFC | the permissive licensing of most of it allowed for Google to not release the rest | Jan 08 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | if anything that's a burn on permissive open source licenses | Jan 08 18:07 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: yeah....from what I listened to. | Jan 08 18:08 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Haven't they been burned enough? :P | Jan 08 18:13 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: I can record almost any time | Jan 08 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | well, if all of Android was licensed under the GPL, there's be no chance of it being open, closed, open, closed, oh look it's open, now it's not | Jan 08 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 08 18:13 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: I think your illustration of the antiquity of BSD demonstrated the issue nicely. :) | Jan 08 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | unfortunately most of it is under permissive open source licenses | Jan 08 18:14 |
| XFaCE | bbl | Jan 08 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | permissive licenses are what companies like because they can choose whether it's free software or not | Jan 08 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | and they can alternate back and forth | Jan 08 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | and just release whatever they like whenever they feel like it | Jan 08 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | it's how they can exploit the community | Jan 08 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | but the GPL has been misused as well | Jan 08 18:19 |
| schestowitz | Google helps in other ways | Jan 08 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | to create a GPL option but to submit patches, you have to assign copyright | Jan 08 18:19 |
| schestowitz | And Android becoming widespread it better than scientopoly doing it | Jan 08 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | then they can license another version of it however they want | Jan 08 18:19 |
| schestowitz | there are free and open android distros | Jan 08 18:21 |
| schestowitz | they seem to be quite complete | Jan 08 18:21 |
| schestowitz | and you can reflash phones/devices with those, AFAIK | Jan 08 18:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ave/@ave] does anyone have any idea about Burger King's status in Romania? I've just seen 2 BKs shut down... :( | Jan 08 18:29 | |
| cubezzz | they changed the name to Burger Thing :) | Jan 08 18:29 |
| DaemonFC | they're not | Jan 08 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | it's often that they can't work at all | Jan 08 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | because most Android devices need at least the Linux firmware bundle | Jan 08 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | and sometimes they need nonfree drivers | Jan 08 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | for the webcam, the wifi, and the GPU especially | Jan 08 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | so there's only a few Android devices that Replicant works on | Jan 08 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | and most of them are badly broken | Jan 08 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | there's only a couple that you can expect to right | Jan 08 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | *work right | Jan 08 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | Android is "free" but the devices it runs depend so heavily on firmware and nonfree drivers that they're basically unusable or only partly usable without that | Jan 08 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | it's even more depressing than Linux-Libre | Jan 08 18:36 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] l'Espresso journalist S. Maurizi on meeting Assange 27 Sept 2010 in Berlin https://t.co/KGctjWAu #svpol | Jan 08 18:52 | |
| schestowitz | I think I lost weight based on the measuring today. Not much... I think I might do the half marathon later this year to see how well I cope if I get down to around 85 KG (from 94 KG last month) | Jan 08 18:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] cryptogon.com » #Japan ‘Dream Project’: 600 Acre Farm with Autonomous Robot Workers - what about #permaculture? http://goo.gl/jTe8r | Jan 08 18:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] #reasontobemarried hand delivered cup of coffee :) | Jan 08 18:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: Vatican joined with US in pushing GE to make up for Iraq war fight http://t.co/FPoQhUd5 | Jan 08 19:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #SOPA Makes Strange Bedfellows - Slashdot - #money is the magic word! #corruption http://goo.gl/e3mit http://goo.gl/ApZkc | Jan 08 19:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Only 1,300 people to go before WikiLeaks mass activist network forms https://t.co/xWcS5ckQ | Jan 08 19:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] boy do I feel silly... startpage is a flavour of ixquick | Jan 08 19:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Activist Post: Tribute to Nikola #Tesla: July 10, 1856 - January 7, 1943 - #scitek http://goo.gl/tsjvt http://ur1.ca/7cfaw | Jan 08 19:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Activist Post: Leaked: US to Start ‘Trade Wars’ with Nations Opposed to #Monsanto, #GMO Crops - #usa #stateterrorism http://goo.gl/iHBv9 | Jan 08 19:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Solar-powered Kindle cover dropping at CES -http://goo.gl/UaFbO - A purchase I will definitely make! #kindle #books | Jan 08 19:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Activist Post: Top 10 #Survival Downloads You Should Have - #preppers http://goo.gl/FlW8r | Jan 08 19:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Time for a brew. | Jan 08 19:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: OLPC XO 3.0 £70 tablet to launch at CES - http://goo.gl/aWrFW #olpc | Jan 08 19:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Android Powered 3D Goggles To Be Revealed At CES 2012 - http://goo.gl/ZJtge #android | Jan 08 19:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] No wonder Microsoft is pulling out of the CES.... what have they got to offer that is of interest? #microsoft #ces #windows #mvpbuzz #mvp | Jan 08 19:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Over on Diaspora: Time for MS employee's to screw all the chairs to the floor? Whats Microsoft got for 2012? http://goo.gl/BdwIP #microsoft | Jan 08 19:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] He is on Google+ if that helps? | Jan 08 19:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Jan 11 marks 10 years of Guantanamo and 400 days of Julian Assange's detainment without charge. http://t.co/z9zQ6zgn | Jan 08 19:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] It must be embarrassing for Microsoft. To be pimping their warez in the midst of others great innovations. | Jan 08 19:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Had this friend, right, and he killed himself for the insurance money / How much did he make? / Nothing - only third party. #theyoungones | Jan 08 19:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Not that I'm aware of! - Oh I see!!!! BTW DuckDuck go? You do know about Bing and DDG don't you? | Jan 08 19:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @wikileaks2 Jan 11 marks 10 years of Guantanamo and 400 days of Julian Assange's detainment without charge. http://t.co/z9zQ6zgn | Jan 08 19:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Yeah Diaspora has been a little hit and miss.... Its repeated on G+ though... http://goo.gl/GPJI9 | Jan 08 19:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Mind you a page of nothing is probably the correct answer for what innovation Microsoft has to offer! | Jan 08 19:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] if | Jan 08 19:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is mfat from identi.ca with 73 dents! | Jan 08 19:56 | |
| ThistleWeb | schestowitz: you around for a quick couple of questions? | Jan 08 19:56 |
| schestowitz | Sure :-) | Jan 08 19:57 |
| schestowitz | I love Crivins BTW | Jan 08 19:57 |
| ThistleWeb | ty | Jan 08 19:57 |
| schestowitz | Some episodes I listened to twice | Jan 08 19:57 |
| ThistleWeb | sadist? lol | Jan 08 19:57 |
| schestowitz | No | Jan 08 19:57 |
| schestowitz | I don't have seek function | Jan 08 19:57 |
| ThistleWeb | ahh | Jan 08 19:57 |
| schestowitz | So I cannot resume from where I last listened and reached | Jan 08 19:57 |
| ThistleWeb | hopefully we're recording the next ep in a couple of days | Jan 08 19:57 |
| _Goblin | I'm sorry Gordon, I still haven't got around to listening...been very busy, I will though! | Jan 08 19:58 |
| schestowitz | Cool. 6/7 | Jan 08 19:58 |
| ThistleWeb | what were the commands you got me to run on the techbytes channel? | Jan 08 19:58 |
| schestowitz | probably 5th in binary | Jan 08 19:58 |
| ThistleWeb | _Goblin: no worries | Jan 08 19:58 |
| schestowitz | which ones specifically do you need? | Jan 08 19:58 |
| ThistleWeb | I've registered a channel for a new project I'm working on, but the only one I know is /msg chanserv register name | Jan 08 19:58 |
| schestowitz | is there an unseen studios channel;? | Jan 08 19:59 |
| ThistleWeb | you got me to run a couple of commands before, no | Jan 08 19:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Recursion (n.): See - Recursion. !lol (via Bożek) | Jan 08 19:59 | |
| ThistleWeb | one to put chanserv in the channel I think | Jan 08 19:59 |
| ThistleWeb | offhand I think you gave me two commands to run, that gave it extra protection in addition to just registering it | Jan 08 20:00 |
| ThistleWeb | I should taken note of them at the time | Jan 08 20:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] War is a video game: Compare https://t.co/nOWP7P5z http://t.co/jZgUowPu | Jan 08 20:02 | |
| schestowitz | /msg chanserv set #<channel> guard on | Jan 08 20:03 |
| ThistleWeb | that's adding chanserv yep | Jan 08 20:04 |
| ThistleWeb | ok, so /list isn't the command list | Jan 08 20:06 |
| ThistleWeb | maybe it was just that one command | Jan 08 20:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: US offered to help Mugabe leave Zimbabwe and avoid prosecution. #WikiLeaks #Cablegate http://t.co/LDWzM2FP | Jan 08 20:10 | |
| schestowitz | I am not too sure, I usually keep a cheatsheet :-) | Jan 08 20:11 |
| ThistleWeb | oh, a couple of feedback points for techbytes 66......nudge up the volumes, all 3 of you were kinda quiet, specially rusty | Jan 08 20:12 |
| schestowitz | I tried to balance them all | Jan 08 20:12 |
| schestowitz | we used to have issues with balance | Jan 08 20:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] :) @chalkahlom at least he's still alive #notelvis | Jan 08 20:12 | |
| schestowitz | with me being very quiet | Jan 08 20:12 |
| ThistleWeb | and send the phone to audition for a reality show, it will tire it out so it doesn't constantly attention seek while recording | Jan 08 20:12 |
| schestowitz | wee me... http://scifitness.co.uk/2012/01/08/afternoon-at-the-gym/ | Jan 08 20:12 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: that was the same person calling infinitely, I should have pulled out the batteried | Jan 08 20:13 |
| schestowitz | I was too far from the housing (to disconnect the whole phone) | Jan 08 20:13 |
| ThistleWeb | I'd have thought you'd put it on mute the first time | Jan 08 20:13 |
| schestowitz | or leave it hanging | Jan 08 20:14 |
| ThistleWeb | or that | Jan 08 20:14 |
| schestowitz | first time this happens | Jan 08 20:14 |
| schestowitz | I had to leave it connected in case I get particular calls | Jan 08 20:14 |
| ThistleWeb | if you know you're not getting any calls, or are about to leave the house for the day, a salesperson calls......don't hang up, just leave it off the hook all day.....both ends need to break before they can call another number, their line is tied up until you hang up | Jan 08 20:15 |
| ThistleWeb | if they're being held up for hours because they can't call new numbers, it really screws their targets | Jan 08 20:16 |
| XFaCE | ThistleWeb: hi | Jan 08 20:16 |
| *XFaCE gives voice to ThistleWeb | Jan 08 20:16 | |
| *XFaCE gives channel operator status to ThistleWeb | Jan 08 20:16 | |
| *XFaCE gives voice to scientes | Jan 08 20:16 | |
| *XFaCE gives voice to brendyn | Jan 08 20:16 | |
| ThistleWeb | it gives them a bit of an incentive to remove your number from their list | Jan 08 20:16 |
| ThistleWeb | o/ | Jan 08 20:16 |
| XFaCE | \o | Jan 08 20:16 |
| prurigro | hey all | Jan 08 20:16 |
| XFaCE | prurigro: Just the man I needed to talk to | Jan 08 20:17 |
| prurigro | aha! | Jan 08 20:17 |
| prurigro | sup? | Jan 08 20:17 |
| XFaCE | Take on me | Jan 08 20:17 |
| prurigro | ? | Jan 08 20:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Take a look at this.... Ive spoken about it before... http://goo.gl/J58Nt | Jan 08 20:17 | |
| XFaCE | sorry, that's a song by a-ha | Jan 08 20:17 |
| XFaCE | :) | Jan 08 20:17 |
| ThistleWeb | this is where asterisk would be ideal, divert that call into a second line indefinitely, until a new sales call arrives, then shunt the new one in to replace the older one | Jan 08 20:17 |
| XFaCE | prurigro: Just joking | Jan 08 20:18 |
| prurigro | ohh haha, kk- didn't get the reference is all :) | Jan 08 20:18 |
| prurigro | so yea, what's up? | Jan 08 20:18 |
| XFaCE | I need to talk to someone about riding into university | Jan 08 20:18 |
| XFaCE | soon | Jan 08 20:18 |
| XFaCE | just geting up the energy to walk down | Jan 08 20:18 |
| ThistleWeb | I find it hilarious that Microsoft are complaining about having to buy stuff they don't want....an 8yr commitment to CES, when they only want 1 | Jan 08 20:19 |
| prurigro | riding into university? | Jan 08 20:19 |
| ThistleWeb | from the same people who go out of their way to shoehorn Windows into every new PC and add it to the price | Jan 08 20:19 |
| XFaCE | prurigro: in the morning, car pooling by any other name | Jan 08 20:20 |
| iophk | CES would be better without them. | Jan 08 20:20 |
| XFaCE | iophk: *Anything* would be better without them :D | Jan 08 20:20 |
| prurigro | XFaCE, ahh, is that related to what you need to talk to me about? | Jan 08 20:20 |
| schestowitz | I used to hate CES because of Ballmer's keynote talks | Jan 08 20:21 |
| XFaCE | prurigro: No, just a general descript. of what I'm doing now | Jan 08 20:21 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT | Jan 08 20:21 |
| prurigro | XFaCE, ahh, before getting into the next task oy? | Jan 08 20:21 |
| iophk | Are they gone for good from CES, or just temporarily? | Jan 08 20:22 |
| prurigro | schestowitz, I love balmer's talks-- they're hilarious! | Jan 08 20:22 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: exactly | Jan 08 20:22 |
| schestowitz | the former | Jan 08 20:22 |
| schestowitz | not the latter remark | Jan 08 20:22 |
| XFaCE | prurigro: oui | Jan 08 20:22 |
| schestowitz | Ballmer I don't find hilarious... even when he goes mad. | Jan 08 20:22 |
| prurigro | schestowitz, how about the techno remixes? | Jan 08 20:22 |
| prurigro | :) | Jan 08 20:22 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: The latter remark was a reference to "Developers*4" :D | Jan 08 20:23 |
| iophk | He's not funny, especially when taking the space of what could have been a serious speaker. | Jan 08 20:23 |
| schestowitz | These people need to be treated like mental patience, not used to discredit events about Asian producers | Jan 08 20:23 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: 14 | Jan 08 20:23 |
| schestowitz | it's typically written as 4 | Jan 08 20:23 |
| XFaCE | lol | Jan 08 20:23 |
| schestowitz | but it's argued to be 14 times IIRC | Jan 08 20:23 |
| schestowitz | you can watch and count | Jan 08 20:23 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: People actually argue about it? | Jan 08 20:23 |
| XFaCE | ... | Jan 08 20:23 |
| schestowitz | !google youtube developers remixc | Jan 08 20:23 |
| schestowitz | oh,,, fffffffuuu | Jan 08 20:24 |
| XFaCE | This isn't a Star Trek episode, we aren't counting decks. :P | Jan 08 20:24 |
| iophk | !google monkey dance | Jan 08 20:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Activist Post: 10 Things To Do to Survive 2012 - #preppers http://goo.gl/6K8xm | Jan 08 20:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Activist Post: Top Post-Collapse Barter Items And Trade Skills - #preppers http://goo.gl/gXKtf | Jan 08 20:24 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.53 | Jan 08 20:24 |
| schestowitz | !google youtube developers remix | Jan 08 20:24 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Developers - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DKMU0tzLwhbE | Jan 08 20:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Steve Ballmer Crazy & Developers Remix - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DJA6h3f_bfYU | Jan 08 20:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Steve Ballmer - Developers remix - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DRYMH3qrHFEM | Jan 08 20:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Ballmer's developers... - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dd_AP3SGMxxM | Jan 08 20:24 |
| schestowitz | !google monkey dance | Jan 08 20:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - The Wiggles, Monkey Dance - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dkvq9TGAt1OU | Jan 08 20:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Monkey Dance Home | http://www.monkey-dance.com/ | Jan 08 20:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Play Dance Monkey Dance, download, and read user reviews on ... | http://games.yahoo.com/game/dance-monkey-dance | Jan 08 20:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Monkey (dance) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_(dance) | Jan 08 20:24 |
| scientes | oh geeze.... developers developers developers... | Jan 08 20:24 |
| iophk | On the web ui for Google, it's the first 2 hits ... | Jan 08 20:25 |
| iophk | for monkey dance | Jan 08 20:25 |
| XFaCE | hi TechrightsBot-tr | Jan 08 20:25 |
| schestowitz | [12:01] <-- TechrightsBot-tr has left this server (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). | Jan 08 20:25 |
| schestowitz | Some kiddie trolls crashed it | Jan 08 20:25 |
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| schestowitz | Maybe lins*** | Jan 08 20:25 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: lins***? | Jan 08 20:26 |
| schestowitz | Anti-Linux trolls | Jan 08 20:26 |
| schestowitz | they fed it a junk URL, honeypot | Jan 08 20:26 |
| XFaCE | scientes: Or, bullshit bullshit bullshit... | Jan 08 20:26 |
| schestowitz | Some people do things | Jan 08 20:26 |
| schestowitz | Some people can't do things | Jan 08 20:26 |
| schestowitz | So they revel in breaking things | Jan 08 20:26 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Any way of counteracting that? | Jan 08 20:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Activist Post: Top Survival Articles From 2011 to Help Prepare For 2012 - #preppers http://goo.gl/kPqR0 | Jan 08 20:27 | |
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| XFaCE | schestowitz: What kind of url was fed? | Jan 08 20:27 |
| schestowitz | it was tinyurl'd | Jan 08 20:28 |
| schestowitz | doesn't matter | Jan 08 20:28 |
| schestowitz | kids will get bored | Jan 08 20:28 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Decisions decisions. Rathole radio or Kiss Me Kate. | Jan 08 20:29 | |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: There isn't a plugin you can get for tinyurls? | Jan 08 20:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: How the US pressured Spain to adopt unpopular web blocking law http://t.co/edtUSYrh | Jan 08 20:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Jan 08 20:31 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Is it just tinyurls? | Jan 08 20:32 |
| XFaCE | Or every url shortener services? | Jan 08 20:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Activist Post: #USA overthrew #Iran’s democracy 1953-1979, armed #Iraq to invade 1980-1988, now lies for more war http://goo.gl/Sj4MF | Jan 08 20:35 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAzOTE | Jan 08 20:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] Microsoft's exFAT Is Still Crap On Linux .::. Size~: 17.47 KB | Jan 08 20:38 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft's exFAT is patent encumbered bullshit on anything | Jan 08 20:38 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: It's not even better than using NTFS on GNU+Linux | Jan 08 20:39 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: No better support, nothing | Jan 08 20:39 |
| XFaCE | At least if it was just as compatible as Fat32, but with better features, then its existence could be justified | Jan 08 20:40 |
| XFaCE | for dual-booting shared partitions | Jan 08 20:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @issylvia: Australian contact your MP: Threaten your vote if action is not taken to defend Julian #Assange's rights! http://t.co/jvewtQnx | Jan 08 20:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Jan 08 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | exFAT is actually more dangerous than NTFS | Jan 08 20:44 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Did yo make a comment yet? :) | Jan 08 20:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Warnock sacked as #QPR manager !football | Jan 08 20:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Liverpool do the right thing on issuing an apology for the racist abuse by a handful of fans against the Oldham player !football | Jan 08 20:44 | |
| DaemonFC | NTFS has been around for a very long time and the patent threats are more known and much closer to expiring | Jan 08 20:44 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: My conclusion as well | Jan 08 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft adds some features to NTFS and probably patents them | Jan 08 20:46 |
| XFaCE | Exfat is just another cop-out on the Windows site, and useless garbage everywhere else | Jan 08 20:46 |
| XFaCE | *side | Jan 08 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | but they're all backward compatible so file systems from older versions of Windows will keep working with newer versions of Windows | Jan 08 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | so you don't need to implement every last feature for it to basically work | Jan 08 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | it has supported things like symlinks for a while, since Windows 2000 | Jan 08 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | because they want it to have some POSIX compliance | Jan 08 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | it makes it easier for their own Services For UNIX garbage to work | Jan 08 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | and it helps them sucker in governments who require some POSIX compatibility | Jan 08 20:49 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Ah yes, the addon so they can proclaim "See?! Windows is POSIX-compliant!" BUYBUYBUYBUY" | Jan 08 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | NTFS support POSIX namespace rules and POSIX file permissions | Jan 08 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | exFAT doesn't have any POSIX capabilities at all | Jan 08 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | and you can't use symlinks | Jan 08 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | the reason Windows 7 can't be installed to ExFAT is because it uses symlinks internally a lot so that things like WoW64 and Side By Side dlls work | Jan 08 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | it's a cheap trick | Jan 08 20:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Whoa it turns out @tmarble has given preso on #Clojure. #heehaw is my friend. About to view. http://ur1.ca/7chff | Jan 08 20:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] From lathering up tabloid hack Peirs Morgan to impuning WikiLeaks. A window on the BBC in Moscow. https://t.co/ld9VqdXb | Jan 08 20:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/svg+xml type | Jan 08 20:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Jan 08 20:51 |
| XFaCE | hmm, interesting comment in the corresponding phornoix forum thread | Jan 08 20:51 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: :Of course, UDF also fills these requirements, and is well-supported under all NT6-based operating systems. Formatting must be done from the Command Prompt, though. The Xbox 360 now supports UDF as well, so long as the storage device is MBR. : | Jan 08 20:51 |
| XFaCE | Hmmm... udf | Jan 08 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft supports the UDF standard surprisingly well, they call it "Microsoft Live Filesystem" though even though they had little to do with creating or standardizing it | Jan 08 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | but it *is* UDF | Jan 08 20:52 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Tomato tomatto | Jan 08 20:53 |
| XFaCE | Firewire, 1394 | Jan 08 20:53 |
| XFaCE | They just slap their name on it, happens all the time | Jan 08 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | there are only a few standards where Microsoft hasn't deliberately botched them, deliberately left something out, or didn't unilaterally add their own garbage to it that violates the standard | Jan 08 20:54 |
| XFaCE | Microsoft or IBM OS/2 | Jan 08 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | but UDF seems to be an exception | Jan 08 20:54 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Is UDF a good shared partition filesystem BTW? | Jan 08 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | I almost hate to say this | Jan 08 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | Windows Vista/7 support the UDF standard better than Linux does | Jan 08 20:55 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Explain | Jan 08 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | Linux will only write up to the UDF 2.01 standard | Jan 08 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | but it can READ the 2.5 and 2.6 standard | Jan 08 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | so UDF 2.5/2.6 stuff is readable under Linux | Jan 08 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | as long as you have kernel 2.6.26 or later | Jan 08 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | earlier kernels couldn't read anything newer than 2.01 either | Jan 08 20:57 |
| DaemonFC | 2.01 dates back to 2000 | Jan 08 20:57 |
| DaemonFC | and 2.6 was finalized in 2005 | Jan 08 20:57 |
| DaemonFC | Linux has no write support for 2.6 | Jan 08 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | don't ask me why | Jan 08 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | most of the added features are for better reliability during the write process though or convenience of the user | Jan 08 20:58 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Can it write to 2.5? | Jan 08 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | Linux supports everything you need from the DVD Video/Audio/Data writing and recording specifications | Jan 08 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | it supports reading the UDF version used by Blu Ray discs | Jan 08 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | but I'm not sure you could author a standards compliant Blu Ray video disc | Jan 08 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | no, it writes to 2.01 | Jan 08 21:00 |
| XFaCE | ah | Jan 08 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | Windows XP can write UDF 2.5 | Jan 08 21:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Paul Craig Roberts, former US Assistant Treasurer, considers WikiLeaks and the year ahead http://t.co/VoUvBlAK | Jan 08 21:01 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Jan 08 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | but it requires Service Pack 2 | Jan 08 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | if you have RTM or SP1, you're limited to UDF 2.01 | Jan 08 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | it's more important to be able to read 2.5 and 2.6 than to write them | Jan 08 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | Windows and OS X will read 2.01 just fine | Jan 08 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | but they write 2.5 or 2.6 | Jan 08 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | it's not some malicious screw Linux thing, the standard is fully documented | Jan 08 21:03 |
| XFaCE | Different priorities I guess | Jan 08 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | well, so little of what Windows and OS X do is what I would call reliable, that I'm happy that they have a point on the board (newer UDF writing capabilities) | Jan 08 21:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Flu Vaccine Shown to be Dangerous and Ineffective | Natural Society - #ah1n1 #bigpharma http://goo.gl/qcUVq | Jan 08 21:04 | |
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| DaemonFC | the Linux kernel advances more every 3 months than the Windows NT one does every 3-5 years | Jan 08 21:05 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Your generous, I would say 10 years | Jan 08 21:05 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft is limited to whatever programmer resources their salary budget allows for | Jan 08 21:05 |
| DaemonFC | open source software has no hard limit | Jan 08 21:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Obama Administration Gives Birth to New Agents of Tyranny: The Bureau of Counterterrorism - #policestate #usa http://goo.gl/7UaSy | Jan 08 21:06 | |
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| DaemonFC | features are added when someone feels it is useful enough to add them | Jan 08 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | I don't recall Richard Stallman or the FSF saying that free and open source software having a better development model is a bad thing, they've just said that you shouldn't let that be all that you consider | Jan 08 21:07 |
| DaemonFC | Android is an example of open source, not free software | Jan 08 21:07 |
| DaemonFC | the core Android system is better for being open source, but they're willing to cut corners and use binary blobs and proprietary software in it because it is expediant | Jan 08 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | that's what's wrong with open source, you get that mindset where you have this thing and it's great but something is going to take a lot of work to bring up and get running, so you just say "fuck it" and stuff in someone's blob | Jan 08 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | and you do that to fill in the holes as you go | Jan 08 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | and because of that, the quality of the project as a whole suffers | Jan 08 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | you know "most of this system is great, but that FUCKING video driver blob likes to go haywire and crash my tablet" sort of thing | Jan 08 21:10 |
| XFaCE | yeah | Jan 08 21:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] US military is due to make court martial decision regarding Bradley #Manning in one week (Jan 16). https://t.co/xWcS5ckQ | Jan 08 21:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Jan 08 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | actually, that would be my review of most Android tablets | Jan 08 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | Android is a wonderful operating system, but the PowerVR blob stability leaves much to be desired | Jan 08 21:11 |
| prurigro | DaemonFC, http://f-droid.org/ | Jan 08 21:11 |
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| prurigro | is a good start at correcting that | Jan 08 21:11 |
| prurigro | err | Jan 08 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | but when you pan out and look at what Microsoft and Apple are offering, the PowerVR blob on Android is suddenly more palatable | Jan 08 21:11 |
| prurigro | the "open source" end of things | Jan 08 21:11 |
| prurigro | what does PowerVR do? | Jan 08 21:12 |
| XFaCE | prurigro: Graphics | Jan 08 21:12 |
| schestowitz | this is the end, mein freund | Jan 08 21:12 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: What now... | Jan 08 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | the rest of the system can be open, mature, well written, and stable, and you toss in a blob, and the whole thing goes nuclear | Jan 08 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | it's certainly true with things like Nvidia and Catalyst display drivers on Linux | Jan 08 21:12 |
| XFaCE | prurigro: The Raspberry Pi uses a Free graphics chip, not powervr, for ex. | Jan 08 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | Nouveau and Radeon are much much much more stable | Jan 08 21:13 |
| MinceR | f-droid looks awesome | Jan 08 21:13 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Has something terrible and stupid happened? | Jan 08 21:13 |
| prurigro | is that along the lines of the nvidia chip in the tablets? | Jan 08 21:13 |
| schestowitz | [21:12] <XFaCE> schestowitz: What now... | Jan 08 21:13 |
| prurigro | schestowitz, or are you listening to the doors? | Jan 08 21:13 |
| schestowitz | prurigro said: | Jan 08 21:13 |
| schestowitz | [21:11] <prurigro> the "open source" end of things | Jan 08 21:14 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rib3rHUojWk | Jan 08 21:14 |
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| prurigro | haha touche | Jan 08 21:14 |
| XFaCE | lol | Jan 08 21:14 |
| XFaCE | you may want to be a bit more careful though, schestowitz | Jan 08 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | well, Sabayon Linux was on my shit list for a long time because they tossed in proprietary display drivers, but it got to the point where even if it boots, the blobs will eventually blow up the entire system, it's like landmines really | Jan 08 21:14 |
| XFaCE | considering the kind of stuff you cover | Jan 08 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | like you go to watch a video and Catalyst brings the X server down | Jan 08 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | so now Sabayon Linux is promoting the open source drivers | Jan 08 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | you still have the choice to try your luck with the blobs, but the choice to do that isn't made for you | Jan 08 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | which is all I was really asking for in the beginning | Jan 08 21:15 |
| prurigro | I think the choice to go free is extremely important too | Jan 08 21:16 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: http://daemonfc.wordpress.com/2012/01/05/are-bandwidth-caps-a-sneaky-way-for-isps-to-profit-from-windows-malware/ | Jan 08 21:16 |
| prurigro | the choice not to should remain too though, for now, since a lot of systems aren't even usable graphically without blob support still | Jan 08 21:16 |
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| prurigro | sadly | Jan 08 21:16 |
| schestowitz | [21:14] <XFaCE> considering the kind of stuff you cover | Jan 08 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | they're not promoting the open source drivers because they are open or give the user more freedom | Jan 08 21:16 |
| *schestowitz doesn't get it | Jan 08 21:16 | |
| DaemonFC | they're promoting them because they destroy the system far less frequently | Jan 08 21:17 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: when you say things like that, I think, "Oh Europe finalised their patent deal" or something :P | Jan 08 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | XFaCE: What about it? | Jan 08 21:17 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: I never thought of that | Jan 08 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | I do think that's why they set the cap there | Jan 08 21:17 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, what about it? | Jan 08 21:17 |
| XFaCE | Then again, in Canada we've had it for years | Jan 08 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | Windows malware goes through bandwidth like Marion Barry goes through crack at a DC hooker party | Jan 08 21:18 |
| XFaCE | So we don't ask why any more, we just say "stop it, Bell" | Jan 08 21:18 |
| XFaCE | :P | Jan 08 21:18 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: I mean when you say things like that and I don't know the context, it seems that something bad has happened, that's all. | Jan 08 21:18 |
| XFaCE | :P | Jan 08 21:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] I see @Haakon has started weekend fun with #gnutelephony | Jan 08 21:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @faif Sorry for delays: !FaiFCast 0x1F is finally released: @kaz & @bkuhn discuss Free Software legal discussion fora: http://ur1.ca/ ... | Jan 08 21:19 | |
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| XFaCE | bbs | Jan 08 21:19 |
| schestowitz | no, it was a son reference | Jan 08 21:21 |
| schestowitz | song | Jan 08 21:21 |
| schestowitz | !google this is the end my friend | Jan 08 21:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - The Doors-The End - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DNoBFhdeR9PE | Jan 08 21:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - The End (The Doors song) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_End_(The_Doors_song) | Jan 08 21:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - GameSetWatch This Is The End, My Friend. | http://www.gamesetwatch.com/2011/11/this_is_the_end_my_friend.php | Jan 08 21:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - This is the end…. my friend. | Livingthegoodwilllife's Blog | http://livingthegoodwilllife.wordpress.com/2011/12/31/this-is-the-end-my-friend/ | Jan 08 21:21 |
| schestowitz | Haven't listened to The Doors for like 16 years. Was a big fan at one point | Jan 08 21:22 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PECk9A-07Pw | Jan 08 21:23 |
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| DaemonFC | I actually think Copyright law should work the other way | Jan 08 21:23 |
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| DaemonFC | where everything would be in the public domain unless the author asserted copyright affirmatively on everything they wrote | Jan 08 21:23 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T09EFoTYVg | Jan 08 21:23 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Maybe I need to send an email to the EFF | Jan 08 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | ask them why HTTPS Everywhere no worky on Firefox for Android | Jan 08 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | :( | Jan 08 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | it shouldn't be a major deal to make it compatible | Jan 08 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | all they would need to do is specify that it is compatible with Fennec and write a little bit of XUL for the GUI for Firefox Mobile | Jan 08 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | of course with Firefox going native Android GUI, that could be a problem | Jan 08 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | maybe they're waiting to see what the extensions GUI setup will be like in Firefox Mobile 11 | Jan 08 21:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I used !Fedora completely free, for nearly 4 weeks, but now I've succumbed to RPM Fusion (I needed !VLC and some audio codecs) | Jan 08 21:27 | |
| schestowitz | I rmemeber jotting the Doors logos everywhere including my Biology notebooks | Jan 08 21:27 |
| MinceR | wait, what happened? DaemonFC uses firefox? | Jan 08 21:28 |
| MinceR | did i get teleported to an alternate reality? | Jan 08 21:28 |
| schestowitz | Around the time of this record http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oh4lLo90Ha4 | Jan 08 21:28 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: he uses it when he doesn't try to provoke | Jan 08 21:29 |
| MinceR | ic | Jan 08 21:29 |
| schestowitz | or he uses it under false pretences :-) | Jan 08 21:29 |
| schestowitz | to bash it more | Jan 08 21:29 |
| schestowitz | "I tried linux, but" mentality | Jan 08 21:30 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I tried your mom, but... | Jan 08 21:30 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: never mind | Jan 08 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: I am filled with hope renewed :) | Jan 08 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | they are ditching that crappy slow piggish GUI | Jan 08 21:32 |
| MinceR | 223147 <+DaemonFC> MinceR: I am filled with hope renewed :) | Jan 08 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | and embracing the native Android widgets | Jan 08 21:32 |
| MinceR | is that what you're calling it nowadays? :> | Jan 08 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: The non-native UI really kills Firefox's performance on Android | Jan 08 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | the new GUI is simply MUCH faster | Jan 08 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | so MinceR, no, I don't USE Firefox a lot on Android | Jan 08 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | I use Opera Mobile | Jan 08 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | I am hoping Firefox gets its shit together soon and the native UI and extensions compatibility for the native UI builds comes to a stable release | Jan 08 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | THEN I will remove Opera | Jan 08 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | and use Firefox | Jan 08 21:35 |
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| XFaCE | back | Jan 08 21:40 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jan 08 21:47 |
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| XFaCE | sebsebseb: hi | Jan 08 21:48 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: hi | Jan 08 21:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Very interesting thread from l'Espresso journalist on Julian Assange dramas http://t.co/s34nuQ3j | Jan 08 21:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Jan 08 21:51 |
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| schestowitz | sebsebseb: hi\ | Jan 08 22:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Ive been asked to answer a few questions for an interview on Mylinuxrig.com ..... great stuff! | Jan 08 22:02 | |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Read this really good article about quite a lot of people dumping Windows for Ubuntu in Kenya, because of Microsoft going after people for piracy, this morning: http://www.coastweek.com/kenxin_060112_05.htm | Jan 08 22:05 |
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| sebsebseb | XFaCE: read that as well ^ | Jan 08 22:05 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: I wrote a post about it today | Jan 08 22:05 |
| schestowitz | with that article linked | Jan 08 22:05 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Jan 08 22:05 |
| schestowitz | but I haven't publishd it | Jan 08 22:05 |
| schestowitz | no time | Jan 08 22:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Yeah, i'm not so fussed about the results it gives, what bothered me would be that MS would cream off search hits for its engine... | Jan 08 22:06 | |
| sebsebseb | oh ok | Jan 08 22:06 |
| schestowitz | I was in the pool for 2 houts | Jan 08 22:06 |
| schestowitz | *hours | Jan 08 22:06 |
| schestowitz | came back just in time for work slot | Jan 08 22:06 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: http://www.coastweek.com/kenxin_060112_05.htm | Jan 08 22:06 |
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| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb even ^ | Jan 08 22:06 |
| _Goblin | What a garish site! | Jan 08 22:06 |
| ThistleWeb | o/ | Jan 08 22:06 |
| _Goblin | good job I'm not sensitive to flashing lights | Jan 08 22:06 |
| sebsebseb | a very good article though :) | Jan 08 22:07 |
| _Goblin | I'll give it a read when I stop fitting | Jan 08 22:07 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: heh | Jan 08 22:07 |
| schestowitz | That's the same article that I have | Jan 08 22:07 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: \0 | Jan 08 22:07 |
| _Goblin | Its like they've said... "Right, lets make our site as visually offensive and 90's as possible" | Jan 08 22:08 |
| sebsebseb | yep I was just thinking that as well | Jan 08 22:08 |
| sebsebseb | when I just went back on it since you were saying about the flashing lights | Jan 08 22:08 |
| sebsebseb | it looks very 90's | Jan 08 22:08 |
| sebsebseb | animated gifs as well very 90's | Jan 08 22:08 |
| _Goblin | Its like travelling back through time on an internet delorian | Jan 08 22:08 |
| schestowitz | "Boo hoo ... Crivins!" | Jan 08 22:08 |
| ThistleWeb | the 90's were very now......in the 90's | Jan 08 22:08 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: oh it's Flash not gifs | Jan 08 22:08 |
| _Goblin | have you seen the site? | Jan 08 22:08 |
| _Goblin | :) | Jan 08 22:08 |
| schestowitz | Kenya is catching uo | Jan 08 22:08 |
| _Goblin | not with sites like that it wont | Jan 08 22:09 |
| schestowitz | There are worse-looking African news sites | Jan 08 22:09 |
| sebsebseb | yep that site is also hosted in Kenya | Jan 08 22:09 |
| schestowitz | Some even show images of corpses | Jan 08 22:09 |
| _Goblin | I don't mind simplistic..... | Jan 08 22:09 |
| XFaCE | sebsebseb: interesting | Jan 08 22:09 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: where did you get the article from Silner? I think it was Silner I got this from on Identica, his dent. | Jan 08 22:10 |
| schestowitz | I think I got it from Google News | Jan 08 22:10 |
| schestowitz | On "open source" | Jan 08 22:10 |
| schestowitz | I then dented it IIRC | Jan 08 22:10 |
| schestowitz | silner reads me | Jan 08 22:10 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: well you know who has to find out about this article, when he's about again, eebrah, but of course :) | Jan 08 22:11 |
| sebsebseb | also it basically says in that article | Jan 08 22:11 |
| sebsebseb | that they put Ubuntu on loads of computers, but a lot come back, because people don't know how to use | Jan 08 22:12 |
| sebsebseb | well eebrah and his friends, Nairobi LUG, maybe can some how help with this problem. | Jan 08 22:12 |
| schestowitz | and set up shop | Jan 08 22:12 |
| sebsebseb | or maybe these shops can even tell people that, there is this LUG or something, if you see what I am getting at? | Jan 08 22:12 |
| sebsebseb | ,but indeed at that article, if people don't know how to use something, they aren't going to be happy, if they aren't willing to just figure it out for them selves, and so return the computer | Jan 08 22:13 |
| schestowitz | anecdotal? | Jan 08 22:14 |
| sebsebseb | as for Micrsooft going after businesses and so on who haven't paid for WIndows, since they can't afford it, well they are helping Ubuntu or whatever spread by doing that really, so oh well | Jan 08 22:14 |
| sebsebseb | and being locked into these companies, I mean business and schools, and so on, is really one of the disadvantages of the developed world, who agree's with me here? | Jan 08 22:14 |
| _Goblin | they did it in russia recently | Jan 08 22:16 |
| sebsebseb | also yes it was Click, but uhmm, they had some wehre in Africa before, that was starting to become like a tech place, altough don't think it was since open stuff, well maybe. Anyway these counteries could really embrace open source, and become tech countereis really. | Jan 08 22:16 |
| _Goblin | sort of backfired on them... | Jan 08 22:16 |
| schestowitz | In Russia, dissatisfied computer returns CUSTOMER | Jan 08 22:16 |
| _Goblin | lol. | Jan 08 22:16 |
| schestowitz | gives a whole new meaning to "returning customers" | Jan 08 22:16 |
| sebsebseb | ,but as someone said in my channel, that I gave out the link to a litlte while ago, he basicaly said, why do they go for Ubuntu? and I am like since it's most popular that's why | Jan 08 22:17 |
| schestowitz | "Excuse me, Boris, I would like to return this customer" | Jan 08 22:17 |
| sebsebseb | he's like, why don't they look at all the options and pick | Jan 08 22:17 |
| sebsebseb | in a way if a lot of Kenyians are going to Ubuntu to not get sued by Micrsooft, it's kind of for the wrong reasons, but then again, they are going to find out more about open source and so on, and :D | Jan 08 22:18 |
| schestowitz | In Soviet Russia, Pavlov's dogs take notes ON PAVLOV | Jan 08 22:18 |
| sebsebseb | of course maybe they will try and make open source and such illegal in Kenya, and then there's a big problem | Jan 08 22:18 |
| sebsebseb | yeah imagine that hmm | Jan 08 22:18 |
| sebsebseb | in fact I read that in one country, the GPL doesn't really apply, it doesn't count as a lisence, or something like that before, I read | Jan 08 22:18 |
| schestowitz | which country? | Jan 08 22:19 |
| schestowitz | You may have read FUD | Jan 08 22:19 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: yep may have | Jan 08 22:19 |
| schestowitz | Thr GPL has not been tested in many countries. Where it has, it was upheld repeatedly | Jan 08 22:19 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I think it was meant to have been in some Asian country or something like that | Jan 08 22:19 |
| MinceR | north korea? | Jan 08 22:19 |
| schestowitz | Doesn't it have some Linux project going? | Jan 08 22:20 |
| MinceR | dunno | Jan 08 22:20 |
| schestowitz | There used to be one based on KDE3 | Jan 08 22:20 |
| schestowitz | in 2009 | Jan 08 22:20 |
| schestowitz | And then there was talk about them collab'ing with SKorea on a distro | Jan 08 22:20 |
| MinceR | didn't the people on that project starve yet, as they aren't soldiers? | Jan 08 22:20 |
| schestowitz | IIRC, a third ARE in the army | Jan 08 22:21 |
| schestowitz | Like 9 million out of 30 | Jan 08 22:21 |
| schestowitz | among 15 million or so men | Jan 08 22:21 |
| MinceR | ic | Jan 08 22:21 |
| schestowitz | 5th biggest military by some terms | Jan 08 22:21 |
| schestowitz | right next to China and not too far from the Big City | Jan 08 22:21 |
| schestowitz | And Russia at the north... Dear Leader Putin | Jan 08 22:21 |
| schestowitz | I studied the map a bit recently | Jan 08 22:22 |
| schestowitz | http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-zvX68cjBQ0k/Tnz9w7UeVtI/AAAAAAAABRE/_3r3V5RNeKA/s1600/southeast_asia_map_region.png | Jan 08 22:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Jan 08 22:22 |
| schestowitz | A lot of people don't know this region | Jan 08 22:22 |
| MinceR | there's no korea on this map :> | Jan 08 22:22 |
| schestowitz | if you were to remove names from the map, most people would hardly be able to name the countries | Jan 08 22:22 |
| schestowitz | Same in Latin America | Jan 08 22:22 |
| schestowitz | Africa is less hard | Jan 08 22:23 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: Korea, Japan, Chine, Russia are easy | Jan 08 22:23 |
| schestowitz | And Mongolia, India... | Jan 08 22:23 |
| schestowitz | Th smaller ones are harder | Jan 08 22:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Página/12 :: El mundo :: En pleno ajuste, Monti compra armamento - #it #mic #tptb http://goo.gl/DV1Cs | Jan 08 22:24 | |
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| schestowitz | I'd like to work in Singapore one day, but my friend who was there says it's too humid and people are unfriendly, like in Japan | Jan 08 22:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @WikileaksTruck: Only 30 more hours left in the auction for the WikiLeaks #Occupy Truck http://t.co/c4Qzv1xM | Jan 08 22:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Missing content type. Ignoring. | Jan 08 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | the idea that copyleft is bad because it won't let parasites come looking for a handout is something the people that promote open source non-copyleft licenses try to claim | Jan 08 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | They frame it as this "Proprietary Company X would like to use that software" which means "They'd like to snapshot it, fork it, make it proprietary, and give nothing back to the project they took it from" | Jan 08 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | "But since it's under the RESTRICTIVE VIRAL ZOMG GPL, they can't use it" which should beg the response "OK, why should I care if they have to write their own version if they can't respect the GPL license of what is out there?" | Jan 08 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | talking to someone about VLC core going from GPL to LGPL instead | Jan 08 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | it's why projects like the BSDs can't advance very far | Jan 08 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | if they were under the GPL and Apple came looking for a handout, Apple would have to give back every single modification they made to it | Jan 08 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | and so would all the hundreds of other companies that snapshot some part of, say, FreeBSD, fork it, and give nothing back | Jan 08 22:48 |
| _Goblin | fork off with the cash in other words | Jan 08 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | why should people bend over backwards to give multi-BILLION dollar companies like Apple, which use software as a hook to sell really expensive hardware, a pass? | Jan 08 22:49 |
| _Goblin | thats taking forking liberties... | Jan 08 22:50 |
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| schestowitz | forking is not the liberty of the best form | Jan 08 22:52 |
| schestowitz | it's happening when people can't collaborate | Jan 08 22:53 |
| schestowitz | branching works better for everyone | Jan 08 22:53 |
| schestowitz | usually | Jan 08 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why Apple cares if it's GPL or not other than they can't sue you for taking the code they give back | Jan 08 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | they avoid the Apache license just because it would make them license patents to everyone who gets a copy | Jan 08 22:53 |
| _Goblin | re that Kenya article.... | Jan 08 22:53 |
| _Goblin | Quote "The crackdown was a response to increasing threat of software piracy to Kenya’s economy. | Jan 08 22:53 |
| _Goblin | " | Jan 08 22:53 |
| schestowitz | wow | Jan 08 22:53 |
| _Goblin | how can making people pay for MS software help kenya's economy..? | Jan 08 22:54 |
| schestowitz | I didn't know MS was a Kenyan company | Jan 08 22:54 |
| schestowitz | And even if it was, growing its userbase would be a GOOD thing | Jan 08 22:54 |
| _Goblin | not when you can't make money with your latest schemes its not... | Jan 08 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | actually, cracking down on piracy in countries that can't afford the licensed version of proprietary software is kind of a gift in an indirect way | Jan 08 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | it pressures them to just toss all of it and use free software instead | Jan 08 22:55 |
| schestowitz | Maybe if you make Keny'a biz pay an American monopolist, then BillG will dump fewer bad drugs and conduct fewer real-life clinical trials on the Kenyan population as "punishment" | Jan 08 22:55 |
| schestowitz | IOW, don't upset Microsoft, then Darth Gates won't come with GSK to slaughter your population in the name of "science" (experimenting on llve targets, with patents on their budget) | Jan 08 22:56 |
| _Goblin | Quote "“Counterfeit software is a plague in Kenya. Software pirates trick uninformed consumers into parting with their hard-earned cash for illegal and, sometimes dangerous goods,” said Dr. Marisella Ouma, Kecobo director." | Jan 08 22:56 |
| _Goblin | yeah because a handwritten disk in a plastic bag or one downloaded from PirateBay just looks soooo legit. | Jan 08 22:56 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Jan 08 22:56 |
| schestowitz | smoke it right, maaaan | Jan 08 22:57 |
| _Goblin | the people buying the stuff know exactly what they are buying....they have to buy it because they can't afford the legit thing. | Jan 08 22:57 |
| _Goblin | or don't think its worth the money | Jan 08 22:57 |
| _Goblin | I think the reality is a mix of both. | Jan 08 22:57 |
| _Goblin | Mind you if theres a tech award for bravery Kenya should get it...... Windows is insecure enough when its the legit product, let alone been passed through the hands of "pirates" | Jan 08 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Consider this. Chinese people use a lot of copies of Windows. Especially XP because it is harder to crack than Vista7 and runs well on reasonable hardware. | Jan 08 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | The majority of it is "pirated" because you're not going anywhere if you ask a person making 25-50 cents an hour US to pay $100 on up for a copy of Windows | Jan 08 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | if Microsoft cracks down on "piracy", it's a good thing because that still doesn't mean any of them can afford to buy Windows | Jan 08 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | so many of them will probably start using Linux or something instead | Jan 08 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | I don't see how Microsoft chasing millions of users off of their crappy software is a bad thing | Jan 08 23:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] indubitably | Jan 08 23:01 | |
| DaemonFC | I just don't think they're doing what they think they're doing if they try clamping down on "piracy" in those countries | Jan 08 23:01 |
| DaemonFC | *easier to crack | Jan 08 23:01 |
| schestowitz | they play "victim" | Jan 08 23:01 |
| schestowitz | then they get entitlement | Jan 08 23:01 |
| schestowitz | "poor MS, better pass some laws to protect them" | Jan 08 23:02 |
| _Goblin | ...When that chap from Kecobo said "...sometimes dangerous goods", was he talking Microsoft products in general or just the pirated ones? | Jan 08 23:02 |
| schestowitz | lol | Jan 08 23:02 |
| DaemonFC | so? chasing users off Pirate XP does not put $100 US in their pocket earmarked for a licensed copy | Jan 08 23:02 |
| _Goblin | he says illegal AND dangerous.... | Jan 08 23:02 |
| schestowitz | "goods" | Jan 08 23:02 |
| schestowitz | it's like when people say "bad" and they mean "good", right? | Jan 08 23:02 |
| _Goblin | so if we establish that the pirated ones are "illegal" then the dangerous ones must mean Microsoft. | Jan 08 23:02 |
| DaemonFC | or several hundred dollars for a system capable of running Windows 7, plus the licensing fee of Windows 7 | Jan 08 23:03 |
| schestowitz | rent | Jan 08 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | because Windows 7 does not run well/at all on XP era machines | Jan 08 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | any of them | Jan 08 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft created the perfect storm to lose Chinese business for years to come | Jan 08 23:04 |
| schestowitz | ballmer: but who cares, they're chinese, there's a billion of em | Jan 08 23:04 |
| schestowitz | !google ballmer mccain china | Jan 08 23:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - McCain wants Ballmer as ambassador to China • The Register | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06/04/ballmer_for_mccain_administration/ | Jan 08 23:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - The Daily Background » McCain comes out against Net Neutrality ... | http://www.thedailybackground.com/2007/05/30/mccain-comes-out-against-net-neutrality-says-would-hire-microsoft-ceo-steve-ballmer/ | Jan 08 23:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - THE MICROSOFT INVESTOR: Fire Ballmer, Double The Dividend ... | http://www.businessinsider.com/the-microsoft-investor-dec-29-2011-12 | Jan 08 23:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - McCain wants to hire Microsoft's CEO Steve Ballmer ... | http://www.stopsoftwarepatents.com/forum/t-90673/mccain-wants-to-hire-microsoft-s-ceo-steve-ballmer | Jan 08 23:04 |
| DaemonFC | the dumbest thing I watched them do was cripple Windows Starter so bad that nobody wants it at any price (even the $3 they were selling it for in third world countries) | Jan 08 23:04 |
| DaemonFC | what they should have done was lower the price to $3, and for that price you got Windows XP Home Edition | Jan 08 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | that would have solved their "piracy" problem, made them *some* money, and it would have held back free software for the desktop there | Jan 08 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | their problem is that the people making these decisions are doing it from a position where they make 6, 7, 8, or more figure incomes a year and like to think that if they offer an insult like Windows Starter, then people will come to them and grovel at their feet for it | Jan 08 23:07 |
| scientes | DaemonFC, that 3 application thing is just insane | Jan 08 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | $3 a copy is not a lot of money, but since copying software and generating a license key costs next to nothing, they would still make money | Jan 08 23:10 |
| scientes | I mean, NT, XP, etc limited half-open tcp connections | Jan 08 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, they start out with a fully features product, like Windows 7 Ultimate, turn off features and cripple it a little, knock $20, call it Windows 7 Professional, turn off a LOT of features, cripple it a LOT more, knock $80 off, call it Windows 7 Home | Jan 08 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | Turn off most features, cripple it badly, don't even let the user change their wallpaper, and stick it on cheap systems in place of a full featured Linux OS with a note that says "Windows 7 Home is just $70 when you get tired of this crap" | Jan 08 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | they create market segmentation by artificial manipulation and restriction of what each version of Windows below ULTIMATE can do | Jan 08 23:14 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: They don't even remove the features in terms of HD space | Jan 08 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | there's a word for that | Jan 08 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | anti-feature | Jan 08 23:14 |
| XFaCE | so when you get a cripple version, you get an extra dump of crap you can't use without some cleverness | Jan 08 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | no, you give them another $150 or whatever it is, they give you 26 letters and numbers | Jan 08 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | where's the problem? | Jan 08 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | I don't see how that's unreasonable? | Jan 08 23:15 |
| scientes | DaemonFC, " fully features product" "Windows" | Jan 08 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | if you give me $150, I can write down 26 numbers and letters for you | Jan 08 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jan 08 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | I will, I promise | Jan 08 23:15 |
| scientes | <ERR> DOES NOT COMPUTE | Jan 08 23:15 |
| scientes | DaemonFC, what is the similarity between computers and air conditioners | Jan 08 23:16 |
| scientes | ? | Jan 08 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know. One uses a ton of electricity and heats up the room, and the other uses a ton of electricity to cool the room down. | Jan 08 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 08 23:17 |
| scientes | They become pointless when you start opening windows | Jan 08 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | Windows is actually causing global warming | Jan 08 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | the amount of power it takes to run an inefficient x86 PC just because it's all Windows will run on | Jan 08 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | x86 is the gas guzzler among processor families | Jan 08 23:18 |
| schestowitz | Terrorists on LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=49837665 | Jan 08 23:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Sign In | LinkedIn .::. Size~: 19.42 KB | Jan 08 23:19 |
| scientes | DaemonFC, the energy of manufacturing is not at all small in compated to operating costs | Jan 08 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | a dual core 1 Ghz ARM Cortex 9 will not only outperform a dual 1.6 Ghz Intel Atom, it will do it while consuming only one third as much energy | Jan 08 23:19 |
| schestowitz | Horacio Gutierrez , patent toerrirts | Jan 08 23:19 |
| schestowitz | But he's too ruich to be sent to Gitmo | Jan 08 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | you could scale up ARM and run desktop systems off it | Jan 08 23:19 |
| scientes | schestowitz, you see the NDAA? | Jan 08 23:19 |
| scientes | National Defense Authorization Act | Jan 08 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | for a small fraction of the electricity (and a small fraction of the contribution to your electric bill) | Jan 08 23:20 |
| scientes | both Habeus Corpus and Posse Comitatus | Jan 08 23:20 |
| scientes | have been suspended | Jan 08 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | the only thing stopping people from tossing x86 electricity waster space heater CPUs is that Windows needs x86 and doesn't run on anything else | Jan 08 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | Windows saddles the typical PC user with bad hardware even if they don't run Windows | Jan 08 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | Windows still manages to cause problems for the user, even when the user doesn't have Windows | Jan 08 23:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] London: Upcoming @frontlineclub events http://t.co/kA8y2hbH | Jan 08 23:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Jan 08 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | PCs that use three times as much electricity and have boot firmware that was only ever intended to run Windows | Jan 08 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | just to name a couple | Jan 08 23:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @JudithStr Mee toerkes gaan lopen aan de watersportbaan! Dat zijn de echte. | Jan 08 23:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @hannesvdvreken @rubenslabbinck mooi! | Jan 08 23:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @flandersdc @janseurinck Ik ben nogal gesteld op het kortste pad eerlijk gezegd. Ik zal misschien eens http://ur1. ... | Jan 08 23:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @rubenslabbinck het is @colpaertpieter! #toytoytoy | Jan 08 23:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @JudithStr je moet er eerst wat inkomen, dan kom je wat in trance en blijf je automatisch lopen. Je zie http://ur1. ... | Jan 08 23:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @kodel: Hemeltergend... MT @NielStaes soliciteer nu voor de beste job in België!! "In principe moet http://ur1.c ... | Jan 08 23:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Choisissez waar blijft de duikboot? #honger | Jan 08 23:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Meisje reciteert haar cursus aan vriendin op de trein en legt daarbij semantiek verkeerd uit. Jammer da http://ur1. ... | Jan 08 23:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Choisissez @colpaertpieter bij mijn naamgenoot kan je blijkbaar leningen afsluiten. Hij heeft de #pappenheimers ge ... | Jan 08 23:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Tanfoglio_ eigenlijk wel. Als we dan niet bezig zijn met de herexamens | Jan 08 23:29 | |
| schestowitz | "Am I the only person in the world who loves Firefox'es new release cycle? *sigh* " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1084953 | Jan 08 23:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Jan 08 23:29 |
| schestowitz | "I use this on every install I do now. <3 <3 <3 Why the heck isn't this kind of alert in there by default, though?!" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/931229 | Jan 08 23:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Jan 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: for about a day now joindisapora has been broken | Jan 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | infinite refresh | Jan 08 23:30 |
| _Goblin | yeah...I had it working earlier...now its gone | Jan 08 23:30 |
| scientes | schestowitz, NONONO, wtF? | Jan 08 23:30 |
| scientes | did public beta launch? | Jan 08 23:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Het mag gedaan zijn met die leugens. Ik zit niet in de #pappenheimers. Alle vieze woorden mogen naar @colpaertpieter | Jan 08 23:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @rubenslabbinck @Tanfoglio_ @hannesvdvreken mag je die lopen ook? Wil wel eens een marathon lopen eigen http://ur1. ... | Jan 08 23:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Tanfoglio_ @hannesvdvreken @rubenslabbinck eerlijk? Ik versta niet wat er lastig is aan 100km bickytocht. | Jan 08 23:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Aww... Stephen Elop confirms Nokia-MS deal is about patent protection - Bing when you're swingin' | Tec http://ur1. ... | Jan 08 23:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Liesjevdw @ljosmyndun @annabelle__s het was een Antwerpse ;) #okeejaikhebmistyptja | Jan 08 23:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Tanfoglio_ @hannesvdvreken @rubenslabbinck lopen we stukjes? | Jan 08 23:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @kodel @NielStaes zo triestig dat het grappig wordt. | Jan 08 23:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @pietercolpaert @Tanfoglio_ hoewel ik dan wellicht ook gelyncht zal geweest zijn door andere mensen. | Jan 08 23:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] UK: WikiLeaks the play mark 2: After discovering the audience wasn't impressed with opportunistic lies--rewrite! http://t.co/oI3HmxpB | Jan 08 23:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Jan 08 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | Red Hat Enterprise Linux isn't going along with it | Jan 08 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | they're still on the Firefox 3.6 branch | Jan 08 23:33 |
| MinceR | gn | Jan 08 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | Bloatzilla Firechrome | Jan 08 23:33 |
| schestowitz | meh! | Jan 08 23:34 |
| schestowitz | What's this Sandra bollox? | Jan 08 23:34 |
| schestowitz | On youtube | Jan 08 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | Enterprise Linux distros bitching at Mozilla is the only reason the 3.6 branch is still maintained | Jan 08 23:34 |
| schestowitz | It's really quite the crap, no wonder I never came across it | Jan 08 23:35 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4VcSnn51hk&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBSQOiZMMhI&feature=related | Jan 08 23:35 |
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| DaemonFC | it would have been easier to branch off a release now and then and slap LTS on it to appease them than it is to commit to open ended support for Firefox 3.6 | Jan 08 23:35 |
| schestowitz | It's like milli Vanilli BS | Jan 08 23:35 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I still use 3.6 | Jan 08 23:35 |
| schestowitz | and icewesel 3.5, I think | Jan 08 23:35 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Jan 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | Squeeze still uses 3.5.16 | Jan 08 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | Debian does a lot of really dumb shit | Jan 08 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | naa | Jan 08 23:36 |
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| DaemonFC | we don't have time to go into what Debian does that is just flipping retarded | Jan 08 23:36 |
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| DaemonFC | seriously, this multiarch crap just burned me so bad I'm wondering if I will ever use a Debian based distribution again | Jan 08 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | does anyone else have a problem with some x86-32 software not working AT ALL, including WINE? | Jan 08 23:38 |
| schestowitz | Watch this guy make a fool of himself http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKtjAS3-_-Q | Jan 08 23:38 |
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| DaemonFC | WINE is probably the biggest item on my "WTF, they broke that and nobody else is complaining!?!?!?" list | Jan 08 23:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] .. to paste :) | Jan 08 23:41 | |
| DaemonFC | Debian is standards compliant, when it suits them | Jan 08 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | and they piss all over standards when one doesn't suit them | Jan 08 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | and they have a tendency to do bizarre things that just break EVERYTHING | Jan 08 23:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @AnonymousIRC: Tomorrow, #OccupyNigeria will hit the streets. #Support them and support each and every #occupation around the world! | Jan 08 23:42 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAzOTI | Jan 08 23:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] Intel's Medfield Still A Botched Binary Mess Under Linux? .::. Size~: 25.54 KB | Jan 08 23:46 |
| DaemonFC | Intel gets ready to release "Poulsbo 2.0" | Jan 08 23:46 |
| DaemonFC | complete with proprietary binary only video drivers | Jan 08 23:46 |
| schestowitz | Placebo 2 | Jan 08 23:46 |
| DaemonFC | they call this one Medfield :P | Jan 08 23:46 |
| schestowitz | Homoeopathic accelerator | Jan 08 23:47 |
| schestowitz | BTW, the Uk has started cracking down on some quacks now | Jan 08 23:47 |
| DaemonFC | HEY!!! I'm Heteropathic!!!!! | Jan 08 23:47 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jan 08 23:47 |
| schestowitz | good for you | Jan 08 23:47 |
| schestowitz | now what does that mean? | Jan 08 23:47 |
| schestowitz | treating the same sex? | Jan 08 23:47 |
| schestowitz | you;'re heteropathetic | Jan 08 23:48 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know, but I'm pretty sure Jesus is against the hom(e)o(pathic) stuff | Jan 08 23:48 |
| DaemonFC | so I better be safe | Jan 08 23:48 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 08 23:48 |
| schestowitz | he spat at crippled people | Jan 08 23:49 |
| schestowitz | and they liked it | Jan 08 23:49 |
| schestowitz | he ccould cure people with his saliva | Jan 08 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | here, have some water, it has just the smallest amount of whatever you'll pay me money for in it | Jan 08 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 08 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | Homeopathy | Jan 08 23:49 |
| schestowitz | but not wise enough to just teach them about germs 1800 years before they finally stopped burning people at the stake and taking sugar p8ills | Jan 08 23:50 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: wine is homoeopathic god | Jan 08 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | there's lots of people that still do want to burn scientists at the stake and take sugar pills | Jan 08 23:50 |
| schestowitz | You get to drink a bit of his son | Jan 08 23:50 |
| schestowitz | Which supposedly cures you from jesusitis | Jan 08 23:50 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: they'd better save those sugar pills to make the fire burn baby burn | Jan 08 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | No Homeo | Jan 08 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 08 23:51 |
| schestowitz | Romeo | Jan 08 23:52 |
| *DaemonFC throws St. Johns Wort at schestowitz | Jan 08 23:52 | |
| DaemonFC | interesting fact, even though St. Johns Wort does nothing for depression, it also doesn't cause a spike in suicide among people taking it, nor do you need an expensive doctor to prescribe it | Jan 08 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | so maybe they are onto something | Jan 08 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | it's still a placebo, but it's cheap and harmless | Jan 08 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | Psychiatrists and Prozac ruin lives | Jan 08 23:54 |
| schestowitz | one prescribes the other | Jan 08 23:55 |
| schestowitz | one happy couple | Jan 08 23:55 |
| schestowitz | a psychiatrist without his/her pills is like a plumber without a spanner | Jan 08 23:56 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Intel's Medfield Still A Botched Binary Mess Under Linux? http://ping.fm/dBzvZ | Jan 08 23:59 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] Intel's Medfield Still A Botched Binary Mess Under Linux? .::. Size~: 25.54 KB | Jan 08 23:59 |
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