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| DaemonFC | http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/8705.html | Jan 09 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 09 00:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: mjg59 | TVs are all awful .::. Size~: 141.51 KB | Jan 09 00:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] #Dianara, now fetching your avatar and full name http://ur1.ca/7cllo Making progress while waiting for the real API #WIP #Diaspora | Jan 09 00:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Schindledecker Bus? !lo #TinyCore | Jan 09 00:42 | |
| schestowitz | ex biologist, eh? | Jan 09 00:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Jan 09 00:42 |
| DaemonFC | I may try that | Jan 09 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | call the input "PC" something or other | Jan 09 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | and see if my TV stops overscanning | Jan 09 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/9387.html | Jan 09 00:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: mjg59 | The economic incentive to violate the GPL .::. Size~: 32.41 KB | Jan 09 00:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @trondau Showdown on EU Standardization http://t.co/lBqXXqvG #interoperability http://p.ost.im/p/eaeftR | Jan 09 00:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @sirmacik: Krótko o tym dlaczego definiując kopimizm jako piractwo pokazujesz jakim jesteś ignorantem. http://ur1.ca/7clii | Jan 09 00:52 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: sirmacik.net — Dlaczego kopimizm piractwem nie jest .::. Size~: 13.95 KB | Jan 09 00:52 |
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| prurigro | http://slashdot.org/story/12/01/08/069204/leaked-memo-says-apple-provides-backdoor-to-governments | Jan 09 01:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Leaked Memo Says Apple Provides Backdoor To Governments - Slashdot .::. Size~: 320.5 KB | Jan 09 01:05 |
| schestowitz | Well, that's Apple | Jan 09 01:05 |
| prurigro | and nokia and rim too | Jan 09 01:05 |
| prurigro | :/ | Jan 09 01:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] I’ve started developing a new program. This time it’s a Diaspora client, an application for GNU/linux that will all http://ur1.ca/7cm0r | Jan 09 01:09 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Dianara, a Diaspora client « Jan+KDE .::. Size~: 37.63 KB | Jan 09 01:09 |
| schestowitz | prurigro: proprietary | Jan 09 01:13 |
| schestowitz | just shows why abuse of power necessitates source code | Jan 09 01:13 |
| prurigro | yup-- we really need a decent open cell phone through and through to hit the market | Jan 09 01:14 |
| prurigro | then again | Jan 09 01:14 |
| prurigro | once it leaves your phone, you're once again vulnerable-- if you're on any corporate network, which they all of course are | Jan 09 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | http://wiki.pcbsd.org/index.php/PC-BSD_for_Linux_Users | Jan 09 01:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: PC-BSD for Linux Users - PC-BSD Wiki .::. Size~: 33.4 KB | Jan 09 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Jan 09 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | For Ext4 on FreeBSD "Neither having extended attributes 'enabled' nor inodes greater than 128-bytes are supported." | Jan 09 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | Extended Attributes on is the default | Jan 09 01:17 |
| prurigro | http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/17/fbi-pressuring-google-facebook-wiretapping/ | Jan 09 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | and inodes are 256-bytes by default | Jan 09 01:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: FBI pressuring Google, Facebook to allow ‘back doors’ for wiretapping | The Raw Story .::. Size~: 150.3 KB | Jan 09 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | mounting a file system where EAs have been used, with them turned off is trivial | Jan 09 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | but the inode size is not something you're going to change | Jan 09 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | it is determined when the file system is created and can't be changed without creating a new file system | Jan 09 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | UFS is actually funny | Jan 09 01:22 |
| DaemonFC | because many UNIX systems claim the file system is "UFS" but no two implementations are quite compatible | Jan 09 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | much like the proprietary UNIX problems themselves | Jan 09 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | you're much more likely to mount a UFS file system from another UNIX as read only than you are getting write support | Jan 09 01:24 |
| prurigro | http://www.zeropaid.com/news/97406/share-bittorrent-app-simplifies-personal-file-sharing/ | Jan 09 01:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Share: BitTorrent App Simplifies Personal File-Sharing .::. Size~: 34.38 KB | Jan 09 01:26 |
| prurigro | hmmm, might be windows only actually, figured bittorrent would have = linux and open support | Jan 09 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | no | Jan 09 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | Bittorrent Inc. Is not open and is not a proponent of free and open source software | Jan 09 01:28 |
| prurigro | I thought bittorrent inc was run by the guy who made bittorrent? | Jan 09 01:29 |
| prurigro | guy/girl | Jan 09 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | sure | Jan 09 01:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk at the bottom of? | Jan 09 01:29 | |
| DaemonFC | their mainline client is proprietary | Jan 09 01:29 |
| prurigro | who made bittorrent open initially? | Jan 09 01:29 |
| prurigro | oh hm | Jan 09 01:29 |
| prurigro | no kidding | Jan 09 01:29 |
| prurigro | it used to be open? | Jan 09 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | and their documentation is not always complete | Jan 09 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | yes | Jan 09 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | when they rebased it on utorrent after buying utorrent, it ceased to be open source | Jan 09 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | it was also the end of all official Linux support | Jan 09 01:30 |
| prurigro | oh word, you don't say | Jan 09 01:30 |
| prurigro | is utorrent's linux client not open source either? | Jan 09 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | that happened a few years ago | Jan 09 01:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RD @sankarshan The economic incentive to violate the !GPL http://bit.ly/yD8Fnk !heehaw | Jan 09 01:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED: pure-text e-mail held for moderation due to size > 40KiB :D | Jan 09 01:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: mjg59 | The economic incentive to violate the GPL .::. Size~: 32.41 KB | Jan 09 01:31 |
| prurigro | I guess I haven't been following too recently, what with better linux clients having been around for quite some time now | Jan 09 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | utorrent's Linux client is new | Jan 09 01:31 |
| prurigro | it is | Jan 09 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | only a few months old | Jan 09 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | it is proprietary | Jan 09 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | it has no GUI | Jan 09 01:31 |
| prurigro | it has a web gui | Jan 09 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | and it can't run as a daemon | Jan 09 01:31 |
| prurigro | that looks like the main one | Jan 09 01:31 |
| prurigro | it can, but you have to hack it a bit :) | Jan 09 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | oh super | Jan 09 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | just what I want to use | Jan 09 01:32 |
| prurigro | I liked transmissiond better though | Jan 09 01:32 |
| prurigro | and that experiment has been removed from my machine | Jan 09 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | nonfree software that is WORSE than the free software options | Jan 09 01:32 |
| prurigro | haha | Jan 09 01:32 |
| prurigro | yea, deluge is wayyy better than utorrent atm | Jan 09 01:32 |
| prurigro | if you wanna go that direction | Jan 09 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | I don't care what happens to utorrent | Jan 09 01:33 |
| DaemonFC | or to bittorrent inc. | Jan 09 01:33 |
| DaemonFC | their specs are not open to public scrutiny | Jan 09 01:33 |
| DaemonFC | they just appear one day | Jan 09 01:33 |
| DaemonFC | and that's the new extension to the protocol | Jan 09 01:33 |
| DaemonFC | it's what they did with uTP | Jan 09 01:33 |
| prurigro | uTP? | Jan 09 01:35 |
| prurigro | btw, DaemonFC you don't use diaspora do you? | Jan 09 01:38 |
| DaemonFC | no | Jan 09 01:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk No such thing with YouTube... the only way to upload video longer than 10mins was with cell# (video 32 mins) | Jan 09 01:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk another thing i didn't know til after; my son had a google docs a/c set up in school; later lost access b/c Google demanded mobile# | Jan 09 01:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk I *am* having problems with my LG Optimus phone seizing up; so maybe I'll get to trade it in (b4 its rooted) and change the # | Jan 09 01:46 | |
| DaemonFC | prurigro: utorrent Transport Protocol | Jan 09 01:48 |
| DaemonFC | it's a quality of service layer implemented on top of TCP/IP | Jan 09 01:48 |
| DaemonFC | I can't think of a particularly good reason for it to exist | Jan 09 01:48 |
| DaemonFC | but it is cropping up in other bittorrent implementations because it is in the Mainline client | Jan 09 01:49 |
| DaemonFC | cargo cult | Jan 09 01:49 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jan 09 01:49 |
| prurigro | hmm, yea, isn't tcp kind of a quality assurance layer itself? | Jan 09 01:49 |
| DaemonFC | there's no reason to implement uTP | Jan 09 01:49 |
| prurigro | is it possibly some kind of bid to shut out other clients eventually? | Jan 09 01:50 |
| prurigro | or is it open? | Jan 09 01:50 |
| DaemonFC | err | Jan 09 01:50 |
| DaemonFC | on top of UDP I meant | Jan 09 01:50 |
| DaemonFC | doh | Jan 09 01:50 |
| prurigro | oh | Jan 09 01:50 |
| DaemonFC | kind of a difference there :P | Jan 09 01:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] Was Elvis really with Major Tom? | Jan 09 01:51 | |
| prurigro | well udp has in inherit quality assurance-ness to it | Jan 09 01:51 |
| prurigro | but I thought the bittorrent protocol itself did | Jan 09 01:51 |
| prurigro | thought that's a bit further up the ladder | Jan 09 01:51 |
| DaemonFC | UDP doesn't have any quality of service or packet scheduling in itself | Jan 09 01:51 |
| prurigro | yea | Jan 09 01:51 |
| DaemonFC | and there's no way to make sure a particular packet got to the destination | Jan 09 01:52 |
| prurigro | so utp kinda makes sense, in that respect, though bittorrent had other means of handling it prior to this to my knowledge | Jan 09 01:52 |
| prurigro | basically check against the origin | Jan 09 01:52 |
| DaemonFC | prurigro: You know what the best thing about UDP jokes is? | Jan 09 01:52 |
| prurigro | wassat? | Jan 09 01:52 |
| DaemonFC | I don't care if you get them | Jan 09 01:52 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 09 01:53 |
| prurigro | weeoo | Jan 09 01:53 |
| prurigro | lol | Jan 09 01:53 |
| prurigro | that's like a joke inside a joke! | Jan 09 01:53 |
| prurigro | so wait | Jan 09 01:53 |
| prurigro | why do you say utp is bad? | Jan 09 01:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz maybe, maybe not. (never met either of them) | Jan 09 01:54 | |
| DaemonFC | reinventing the wheel | Jan 09 01:55 |
| prurigro | should they have used tcp? | Jan 09 01:55 |
| prurigro | is that what you're thinking? | Jan 09 01:55 |
| prurigro | I thought there was an initially good reason for going udp though... | Jan 09 01:55 |
| DaemonFC | KTorrent has a full uTP implementation | Jan 09 01:56 |
| DaemonFC | as of 4.1 anyway | Jan 09 01:56 |
| DaemonFC | but it's turned off by default | Jan 09 01:57 |
| DaemonFC | the reference implementation is under the MIT X11 license | Jan 09 01:57 |
| prurigro | oh hmm, that's acceptable then | Jan 09 01:57 |
| prurigro | and makes sense if bittorrent plans to keep their stuff closed | Jan 09 01:57 |
| DaemonFC | I have it set to use TCP by default but report that it can accept connections over uTP if it is challenged | Jan 09 01:57 |
| DaemonFC | you can also make uTP the default | Jan 09 01:58 |
| DaemonFC | I see no reason to | Jan 09 01:58 |
| DaemonFC | unless you want to use code that is relatively new and invented behind closed doors | Jan 09 01:58 |
| DaemonFC | I tried making it the primary protocol for a while to just test it out | Jan 09 01:59 |
| prurigro | but you can see the code anyway no? | Jan 09 01:59 |
| prurigro | any faster? | Jan 09 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | it made absolutely no difference | Jan 09 01:59 |
| prurigro | it could have also been put in place to try and hide from traffic shaping? | Jan 09 02:00 |
| DaemonFC | my torrent program still monopolized my DSL line | Jan 09 02:00 |
| prurigro | lol | Jan 09 02:00 |
| prurigro | you need to reduce the upload | Jan 09 02:00 |
| DaemonFC | then I tried ONLY using uTP | Jan 09 02:00 |
| DaemonFC | that just made things worse | Jan 09 02:00 |
| prurigro | hmm interesting | Jan 09 02:00 |
| DaemonFC | because the only other client that fully supports it is uTorrent and the Bittorrent rebranded version of uTorrent | Jan 09 02:00 |
| prurigro | yea, I bet its easier to control tcp | Jan 09 02:00 |
| prurigro | than udp | Jan 09 02:01 |
| DaemonFC | which are both proprietary Windows software | Jan 09 02:01 |
| prurigro | touche | Jan 09 02:01 |
| DaemonFC | so no matter what you do you can get lousy download speeds by only using uTP | Jan 09 02:01 |
| DaemonFC | because of lack of peers | Jan 09 02:01 |
| DaemonFC | or you can enable uTP and make it the default, in which case you actually have more overhead | Jan 09 02:01 |
| DaemonFC | because it will ask each peer "do you support uTP?" | Jan 09 02:02 |
| DaemonFC | and the answer is usually no | Jan 09 02:02 |
| DaemonFC | so you just wasted two packets each time you connect to a peer if you make it default | Jan 09 02:02 |
| DaemonFC | which is a small waste, but it is waste | Jan 09 02:02 |
| prurigro | hmm, utp is actually enabled for me | Jan 09 02:02 |
| prurigro | using transmission | Jan 09 02:02 |
| prurigro | (just checked) | Jan 09 02:03 |
| DaemonFC | but if you make TCP the default but allow uTP, then you have gotten rid of the overhead | Jan 09 02:03 |
| prurigro | hmm, an initial waste, if they did it correctly | Jan 09 02:03 |
| prurigro | looks like utp might be catching on though | Jan 09 02:03 |
| DaemonFC | but if a utorrent or bittorrent, or another Ktorrent client (or did Transmission add it? OK whatever) asks your client if it's allowed, then your client says yes and uses it | Jan 09 02:03 |
| DaemonFC | it is apparently | Jan 09 02:03 |
| DaemonFC | I don't get what the big deal is | Jan 09 02:03 |
| DaemonFC | they recreated TCP on top of UDP | Jan 09 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | woohoo | Jan 09 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | I guess whether or not it works well for you mostly depends on the TCP congestion control algorithm your operating system is using | Jan 09 02:04 |
| prurigro | I bet it didn't hurt that ktorrent would have had source code with their implementation available eh? | Jan 09 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | it likely won't help Linux users at all | Jan 09 02:05 |
| prurigro | it could have been optimized to the bittorrent protocol | Jan 09 02:05 |
| prurigro | oh? | Jan 09 02:05 |
| DaemonFC | if they're using a recent Linux kernel anyway | Jan 09 02:05 |
| prurigro | why's that? | Jan 09 02:05 |
| prurigro | tcp been optimized recently? | Jan 09 02:05 |
| DaemonFC | the TCP congestion control defaults in Linux are quite good | Jan 09 02:05 |
| prurigro | word, that's good to hear | Jan 09 02:05 |
| DaemonFC | and get tweaked from time to time for improvement | Jan 09 02:05 |
| prurigro | I have noticed my network has been getting more efficient in general since the 3.0 release | Jan 09 02:05 |
| DaemonFC | uTP probably only makes sense on Windows | Jan 09 02:06 |
| prurigro | course, even if tcp is optimized quite well for all network traffic | Jan 09 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | where Microsoft has "optimized" TCP so much that every once in a while it just fails completely | Jan 09 02:06 |
| prurigro | wouldn't something made specifically for a single purpose still do better than the blanket soln | Jan 09 02:06 |
| prurigro | ? | Jan 09 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | depending on a number of factors | Jan 09 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | I think uTP is probably just a way to sneak around Microsoft's lousy TCP congestion controls | Jan 09 02:07 |
| DaemonFC | now that I think of it | Jan 09 02:07 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 09 02:07 |
| prurigro | that could very well be | Jan 09 02:07 |
| prurigro | http://torrentfreak.com/ktorrent-first-bittorrent-client-to-adopt-open-source-utp-100528/ | Jan 09 02:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Jan 09 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | Well, the "optimizations" that lead to me cursing and spitting landed in Vista | Jan 09 02:08 |
| prurigro | this seems to think it'll help with congestion | Jan 09 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | and continue in Windows 7 | Jan 09 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | Windows XP's TCP stack is actually much better | Jan 09 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | for me anyway | Jan 09 02:08 |
| prurigro | why do you say that? | Jan 09 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | because XP never had any kind of complex congestion avoidance algorithms that were full of bugs | Jan 09 02:09 |
| DaemonFC | it did a bad job at congestion control because it wasn't very smart, but at least it was consistent | Jan 09 02:09 |
| prurigro | hmm, so they released too soon maybe | Jan 09 02:09 |
| prurigro | you're talking locally, between apps? | Jan 09 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | Vista7 dous a bad job and it's constantly trying to tweak itself while you're trying to figure out what the hell is going on | Jan 09 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | *does | Jan 09 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | no | Jan 09 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | prurigro: The only thing I found that caused Vista7 to stop fucking up was to tell it to stand there and be stupid, like XP would do | Jan 09 02:11 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 09 02:11 |
| prurigro | using the registry? | Jan 09 02:11 |
| DaemonFC | no | Jan 09 02:11 |
| prurigro | or is there some administrative tool that lets you handle settings like that now? | Jan 09 02:11 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Jan 09 02:12 |
| DaemonFC | there's a tool for the command prompt | Jan 09 02:12 |
| prurigro | word | Jan 09 02:12 |
| DaemonFC | can't recall the name since I haven't used Vista7 in months | Jan 09 02:12 |
| prurigro | haha | Jan 09 02:12 |
| DaemonFC | but it lets you tell it to be more or less aggressive | Jan 09 02:12 |
| DaemonFC | or to just stop trying to pretend that it is smart | Jan 09 02:12 |
| prurigro | I use it at work, but I'm not afforded the fruits of administrative access | Jan 09 02:12 |
| prurigro | interesting | Jan 09 02:13 |
| prurigro | so what do you find happens? | Jan 09 02:13 |
| prurigro | you'll be using one app hardcore and another won't get network access? | Jan 09 02:13 |
| DaemonFC | if I leave it to default? | Jan 09 02:13 |
| DaemonFC | well, it tries to adjust the TCP receive window | Jan 09 02:14 |
| DaemonFC | for one thing | Jan 09 02:14 |
| DaemonFC | so on the default settings every once in a while it messes up and closes a connection | Jan 09 02:14 |
| DaemonFC | it manifests itself most visibly when a web page won't load and your browser says the remote host closed the connection | Jan 09 02:14 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 09 02:14 |
| prurigro | oh hmm | Jan 09 02:14 |
| prurigro | interesting | Jan 09 02:14 |
| prurigro | I haven't seen that problem myself | Jan 09 02:14 |
| DaemonFC | if you make it more aggressive at "tuning" itself, that happens a lot more | Jan 09 02:14 |
| prurigro | likely a reason the initial settings weren't set too aggressive? | Jan 09 02:15 |
| DaemonFC | if you make it less aggressive, then it usually works as well or better than a fixed size | Jan 09 02:15 |
| DaemonFC | but if you leave it at a fixed size, then it will at least always work | Jan 09 02:15 |
| DaemonFC | even though it won't be as "optimized", it never really fails horribly | Jan 09 02:15 |
| DaemonFC | less aggressive seems to be a good thing to try | Jan 09 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | and if that doesn't help, setting it to a fixed size is the only option | Jan 09 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | most users will never know why the error is happening | Jan 09 02:17 |
| DaemonFC | or go to investigate | Jan 09 02:17 |
| prurigro | hmm | Jan 09 02:17 |
| prurigro | true | Jan 09 02:17 |
| prurigro | though they might get upset and hate windows for it | Jan 09 02:17 |
| prurigro | since everything they do is through a web browser :) | Jan 09 02:17 |
| DaemonFC | well, the receive window tuning seems to hate bittorrent traffic | Jan 09 02:18 |
| DaemonFC | you start getting a lot of disconnects from peers | Jan 09 02:18 |
| DaemonFC | and your web browser starts saying the remote host closed the connection more and more | Jan 09 02:18 |
| prurigro | hmm suspicious with all the hate on bittorrent these days | Jan 09 02:18 |
| DaemonFC | the TCP receive window tuning and congestion controls in Vista7 seem to cause all kinds of hell | Jan 09 02:19 |
| DaemonFC | so like I said, uTP is probably just a nice way of saying they want nothing to do with the TCP stack on Windows | Jan 09 02:19 |
| prurigro | haha, touche-- though surely it'd be better than generic TCP anywhere, even if only slightly in linux? | Jan 09 02:19 |
| DaemonFC | no | Jan 09 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | Linux has the ability to tune the receive window | Jan 09 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | and it has over a dozen congestion avoidance algorithms | Jan 09 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | depending on how the kernel was built, you can default to any one of them | Jan 09 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | and change them on the fly | Jan 09 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 09 02:20 |
| prurigro | but this is working in the realm of all sorts of other apps using tcp, while bittorrent likely gets most of the udp stream to itself? | Jan 09 02:22 |
| DaemonFC | Windows uses a congestion control algorithm written by Microsoft | Jan 09 02:22 |
| DaemonFC | called Compound | Jan 09 02:22 |
| DaemonFC | Linux uses CUBIC by default | Jan 09 02:22 |
| DaemonFC | since 2.6.19 | Jan 09 02:22 |
| DaemonFC | before that it was BIC | Jan 09 02:23 |
| DaemonFC | and before that it was New Reno | Jan 09 02:24 |
| prurigro | word | Jan 09 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | OS X and FreeBSD still default to BIC | Jan 09 02:24 |
| prurigro | I found OSX pretty terrible with congestion | Jan 09 02:24 |
| prurigro | though that could have been any number of things | Jan 09 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | between Linux 2.6.9 and 2.6.18, it was using BIC | Jan 09 02:25 |
| DaemonFC | it's still an option | Jan 09 02:25 |
| prurigro | hmm, yea, I don't believe I was having any issues back then | Jan 09 02:26 |
| prurigro | linux has always been pretty good with my network speeds as long as nothings uploading faster than my aDSL line would enjoy | Jan 09 02:26 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft has patents on Compound | Jan 09 02:26 |
| prurigro | fast/consistent | Jan 09 02:26 |
| DaemonFC | so Linux can't use it without infringing | Jan 09 02:26 |
| DaemonFC | but I don't see why it would want to | Jan 09 02:27 |
| prurigro | lol | Jan 09 02:27 |
| prurigro | yea | Jan 09 02:27 |
| prurigro | I was gonna ask | Jan 09 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | if Compound TCP ever became the default on Linux, the entire internet would be in trouble | Jan 09 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | Windows gets away with it because almost nobody uses it as a server | Jan 09 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | and desktop users are too dumb to realize why their connection is giving them problems | Jan 09 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | prurigro: I noticed that Netgear routers seem to have more problems with Compound TCP than any other brand that I've used with it | Jan 09 02:30 |
| prurigro | hmm | Jan 09 02:31 |
| prurigro | what about windows server? do they use something else? | Jan 09 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | it defaults to Compound but Microsoft lets you install others | Jan 09 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | and specify which one to use | Jan 09 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | you can't do that in Windows Vista or 7 | Jan 09 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | it's Compount TCP or FIFO | Jan 09 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 09 02:32 |
| prurigro | interesting | Jan 09 02:32 |
| prurigro | FIFO haha | Jan 09 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | first in first out | Jan 09 02:32 |
| prurigro | yea | Jan 09 02:32 |
| prurigro | =D | Jan 09 02:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @parlementum It is the best all around laughs for the macbook pro bottom? Like the one doing the talking? | Jan 09 02:32 | |
| DaemonFC | you can't specify another algorithm in any edition of Windows 7 | Jan 09 02:33 |
| DaemonFC | even Enterprise | Jan 09 02:33 |
| DaemonFC | http://netlab.caltech.edu/lachlan/ctcp/ | Jan 09 02:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 500 Internal Server Error | Jan 09 02:34 |
| DaemonFC | oh look, a nonfree kernel module implementing Compound TCP | Jan 09 02:34 |
| DaemonFC | on Linux | Jan 09 02:34 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft might not even sue you as long as you use it as a toy | Jan 09 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 09 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | how nice | Jan 09 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | also, if you patch Linux with that and then distribute the patched sources, you're in violation of the GPL | Jan 09 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | (worth mentioning) | Jan 09 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | and liable to get sued by Microsoft (worth mentioning) | Jan 09 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | and maybe even Caltech | Jan 09 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | (worth mentioning | Jan 09 02:36 |
| prurigro | haha | Jan 09 02:36 |
| prurigro | at one time it was available eh? | Jan 09 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | well, Caltech has the copyright on the patch | Jan 09 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | since one of their professors wrote it | Jan 09 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | it's not under a GPL compatible license | Jan 09 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | and Microsoft has patents on it | Jan 09 02:38 |
| prurigro | interesting | Jan 09 02:38 |
| prurigro | how was it previously included? | Jan 09 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | so you're infringing the copyright of the Linux kernel and Caltech's patch if you distribute the patched kernel | Jan 09 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | and then Microsoft can sue you for patent infringement | Jan 09 02:39 |
| DaemonFC | the patch by itself does nothing | Jan 09 02:39 |
| DaemonFC | it's just source code | Jan 09 02:39 |
| DaemonFC | it wouldn't be part of the kernel until you applied it | Jan 09 02:39 |
| DaemonFC | outside of the kernel and as source code it doesn't implement Compound TCP for anyone | Jan 09 02:39 |
| DaemonFC | so Microsoft can't sue you just for having the patch file | Jan 09 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.google.com/patents/US7577097 | Jan 09 02:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Patent US7577097 - Compound transmission control protocol - Google Patents .::. Size~: 59.16 KB | Jan 09 02:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♺ @rob_t_firefly: RT @AnonymousIRC: Why the Movie Industry Can’t Innovate and the Result is #SOPA http://t.co/p2eKi2cH #Anonymous #Berkeley | Jan 09 02:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Jan 09 02:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♺ @shaunmallette: RT @Openattitude: @doctorow ’s Omen Shows Why We Need To Ban DRM | TorrentFreak http://t.co/PakXBt50 | Jan 09 02:42 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Jan 09 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | the patent was granted in 2010 | Jan 09 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | so don't expect anyone else to be using anything based on it for the next couple decades | Jan 09 02:43 |
| prurigro | hmm interesting | Jan 09 02:43 |
| prurigro | I thought there were issues with patenting things that had already been in use for many years? | Jan 09 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | that particular approach is new | Jan 09 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | it doesn't mean it's the best | Jan 09 02:49 |
| prurigro | lol | Jan 09 02:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Expose NYTimes political corruption: Donate to the NYT Examiner http://t.co/9byJ0cYK | Jan 09 02:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Jan 09 02:51 |
| prurigro | reminds me of when microsoft tried to patent multiple desktops | Jan 09 02:51 |
| DaemonFC | on the left we have Program Manager, and on the right we have Bob | Jan 09 02:53 |
| DaemonFC | Who wants Chicago Explorer? | Jan 09 02:53 |
| DaemonFC | ME ME ME!!! | Jan 09 02:53 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 09 02:53 |
| DaemonFC | 12 years later | Jan 09 02:59 |
| DaemonFC | I still have to explain | Jan 09 02:59 |
| DaemonFC | why I liked this http://toastytech.com/guis/w2kfilebrowser.gif more than this http://toastytech.com/guis/win7search.png | Jan 09 02:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/gif type | Jan 09 02:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Jan 09 02:59 |
| DaemonFC | they really lost me with Vista | Jan 09 03:00 |
| prurigro | haha | Jan 09 03:02 |
| prurigro | windows lost me with win98 | Jan 09 03:02 |
| prurigro | on my 1243208423th install | Jan 09 03:02 |
| prurigro | it was time for something new | Jan 09 03:02 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 98 | Jan 09 03:02 |
| DaemonFC | Revenge of Mozilla | Jan 09 03:02 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 95 OSR 2 Explorer shell | Jan 09 03:02 |
| DaemonFC | Netscape | Jan 09 03:02 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 09 03:02 |
| DaemonFC | most of Windows 98's crashing and memory leaks were caused by Internet Explorer and its shell integration | Jan 09 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | once you killed IE in fire and installed the shell from Windows 95, things settled down a lot | Jan 09 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | one of the improvements in Windows 98 that finally pried me away from Windows 95 and possessed me to make the effort to get rid of IE and its defective shell integration was the fact that Windows 95 had a file system cache, where it would cache things you recently loaded | Jan 09 03:05 |
| DaemonFC | but it couldn't RUN anything that was in the cache | Jan 09 03:05 |
| DaemonFC | so the cache memory was basically memory that couldn't be used for running applications | Jan 09 03:06 |
| DaemonFC | and Windows 98 removed that limitation | Jan 09 03:06 |
| DaemonFC | when I switched over from Windows 95 to 98, I ended up telling it to use most of my memory for the file system cache since there was no longer any reason not to | Jan 09 03:07 |
| DaemonFC | and it sped things up a lot | Jan 09 03:07 |
| DaemonFC | such as working with documents and images | Jan 09 03:07 |
| DaemonFC | that improvement was negated by the fact that IE and its shell integration were present | Jan 09 03:08 |
| DaemonFC | the shell on Windows 98 was so bad that even sitting there doing nothing, it would eventually leak either all its memory or all of its GDI objects and crash | Jan 09 03:08 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 09 03:08 |
| DaemonFC | it didn't exactly get a lot better in XP, Microsoft just cranked up the number of GDI objects that were allowed, by an amount so large that they could sit there leaking until you were out of physical RAM before the machine would grind to a halt | Jan 09 03:09 |
| DaemonFC | at least it wouldn't start going berserk and blue screen | Jan 09 03:09 |
| DaemonFC | it would just eventually leak out into the swap file as your system got slower and slower | Jan 09 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | prurigro: Conceivably, your swap file could grow and grow due to that until you were also out of disk space | Jan 09 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | then the system would crash | Jan 09 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | though I'm unaware of anything that would be leaking that bad | Jan 09 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 09 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | http://toastytech.com/guis/sol11appmenu.png | Jan 09 03:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Jan 09 03:12 |
| DaemonFC | that used to be my GNOME theme on Ubuntu | Jan 09 03:12 |
| DaemonFC | http://toastytech.com/guis/mint12.html | Jan 09 03:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mint Linux 12 Gnome 3 .::. Size~: 10.31 KB | Jan 09 03:13 |
| DaemonFC | new screenshots | Jan 09 03:13 |
| prurigro | I never used ie- like, right from the start | Jan 09 03:13 |
| prurigro | began with netscape when http came out | Jan 09 03:13 |
| prurigro | yea though ,rambooster definitely helped | Jan 09 03:14 |
| prurigro | though my longest success rate with win98 was about 6 months before it was unusable | Jan 09 03:14 |
| DaemonFC | nah | Jan 09 03:14 |
| DaemonFC | that was a scam | Jan 09 03:14 |
| prurigro | with or without | Jan 09 03:14 |
| DaemonFC | the damned rambooster program also leaked | Jan 09 03:14 |
| prurigro | rambooster might not have been the app | Jan 09 03:14 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 09 03:14 |
| DaemonFC | and it didn't free memory | Jan 09 03:14 |
| DaemonFC | it just evicted the disk cache | Jan 09 03:14 |
| prurigro | all the ramboosters? | Jan 09 03:14 |
| prurigro | or specifically the one called that? | Jan 09 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | of course you fucking freed up memory | Jan 09 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | it's called, you EVICTED THE DISK CACHE | Jan 09 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | which Windows WOULD HAVE DONE ANYWAY IF NECESSARY | Jan 09 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 09 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | There was $30 well spent | Jan 09 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jan 09 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | oh, people are so easily fooled | Jan 09 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | they probably made millions | Jan 09 03:16 |
| prurigro | 30 dollars? | Jan 09 03:16 |
| prurigro | ok, I'm definitely talking about a different app then haha | Jan 09 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | I remember they wanted like $29.99 for that thing | Jan 09 03:16 |
| prurigro | I wouldn't have paid 30 bucks to boost my ram | Jan 09 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | and I got banned from their forum for explaining how it worked | Jan 09 03:17 |
| DaemonFC | and why nobody needed it | Jan 09 03:17 |
| prurigro | haha | Jan 09 03:17 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jan 09 03:17 |
| prurigro | mine was a simple app | Jan 09 03:17 |
| prurigro | it showed your current ram usage | Jan 09 03:17 |
| prurigro | you clicked the button and it would clear all the currently unused ram, some of which was for program cache for quicker startup | Jan 09 03:17 |
| DaemonFC | I don't see why you'd wantto evict the disk cache | Jan 09 03:17 |
| prurigro | but other was likely leaked memory from previously closed apps | Jan 09 03:17 |
| DaemonFC | any decent OS has one | Jan 09 03:17 |
| prurigro | it didn't touche the disk | Jan 09 03:17 |
| prurigro | nm | Jan 09 03:18 |
| prurigro | you mean the cache for the hard drive transfer? | Jan 09 03:18 |
| DaemonFC | the operating systems that sit there and let RAM go unused while not caching the hard disk are the ones that are crazy | Jan 09 03:18 |
| DaemonFC | no, it keeps everything that was recently loaded in memory in case you need it again | Jan 09 03:18 |
| DaemonFC | but it will evict it if something else needs the space | Jan 09 03:18 |
| DaemonFC | Windows Vista/7 go a little further | Jan 09 03:19 |
| DaemonFC | they keep track of the programs you use a lot | Jan 09 03:19 |
| prurigro | windows 98 wouldn't evict everything | Jan 09 03:19 |
| DaemonFC | and if you step away for a few minutes, it will start stuffing them into memory | Jan 09 03:19 |
| DaemonFC | so that if you try to load one when you come back, it only takes a split second to start | Jan 09 03:20 |
| DaemonFC | that's one thing about Vista that actually made sense to me | Jan 09 03:20 |
| DaemonFC | there was a daemon that I was using in Linux that did something similar | Jan 09 03:21 |
| DaemonFC | but it went unmaintained so I stopped using it | Jan 09 03:21 |
| prurigro | I'm not sure I like the idea of my OS keeping track of what programs I use so much | Jan 09 03:25 |
| prurigro | despite the obvious advantages | Jan 09 03:25 |
| DaemonFC | that Mint 12 article on toastytech.com was so bad that I emailed him | Jan 09 03:30 |
| DaemonFC | to clarify that it is not using Unity | Jan 09 03:30 |
| DaemonFC | and explaining what Unity, GNOME Shell, Mutter, and Compiz all are | Jan 09 03:30 |
| prurigro | what's that? | Jan 09 03:31 |
| DaemonFC | and that Linux Mint is using GNOME Shell with their own extensions | Jan 09 03:31 |
| prurigro | oh, like literally | Jan 09 03:31 |
| DaemonFC | I suggested that if he wanted to do a proper review of GNOME, he should use Fedora 16 | Jan 09 03:31 |
| prurigro | I'd agree | Jan 09 03:31 |
| prurigro | Fedora 16 has an excellent, vanilla gnome 3 setup | Jan 09 03:31 |
| prurigro | do you have a link to the article? | Jan 09 03:32 |
| DaemonFC | not my cup of tea, but Linux Mint? god damn | Jan 09 03:32 |
| DaemonFC | Linux WhatTheFuckIsThisShit? is more like it | Jan 09 03:32 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 09 03:32 |
| prurigro | lol | Jan 09 03:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Thanks for constantly buffering when I try to watch Survivor's Eye of the the Tiger, @YouTube. :'( | Jan 09 03:32 | |
| prurigro | its no good? | Jan 09 03:32 |
| DaemonFC | http://toastytech.com/guis/mint12.html | Jan 09 03:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mint Linux 12 Gnome 3 .::. Size~: 10.31 KB | Jan 09 03:32 |
| DaemonFC | oh, well, you know | Jan 09 03:32 |
| DaemonFC | duplicate panels | Jan 09 03:32 |
| DaemonFC | duplicate menus | Jan 09 03:32 |
| DaemonFC | duplicate device notification popups | Jan 09 03:33 |
| prurigro | you mean how they took all the activities stuff and put it on the status bar? | Jan 09 03:33 |
| DaemonFC | weird bugs caused by their extensions | Jan 09 03:33 |
| prurigro | or literally, bugs | Jan 09 03:33 |
| prurigro | ahh | Jan 09 03:33 |
| prurigro | interesting | Jan 09 03:33 |
| DaemonFC | KDE 4.0 sent me screaming to GNOME | Jan 09 03:34 |
| DaemonFC | I was never really all that impressed with GNOME, but it was usable and it usually didn't crash | Jan 09 03:34 |
| DaemonFC | as KDE stabilized and settled down, I moved back to KDE | Jan 09 03:34 |
| DaemonFC | I've been using KDE again full time since like 4.4 | Jan 09 03:34 |
| prurigro | KDE4 also sent me to gnome | Jan 09 03:35 |
| prurigro | which I probably never would have touched again after gnome 1.x | Jan 09 03:35 |
| prurigro | but 2.x was pretty good | Jan 09 03:35 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME 3 impressed me, it was a negative impression | Jan 09 03:35 |
| DaemonFC | but it made one | Jan 09 03:35 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 09 03:35 |
| prurigro | haha | Jan 09 03:35 |
| prurigro | I like it, but I can see why many wouldn't | Jan 09 03:35 |
| prurigro | its different in a way where it either jives with you or it doesn't | Jan 09 03:35 |
| DaemonFC | I think KDE 4.8 is extremely usable | Jan 09 03:35 |
| prurigro | yea, KDE 4.x seems better now | Jan 09 03:36 |
| prurigro | though I still don't like how everything looks like separate applications working together | Jan 09 03:36 |
| DaemonFC | it's not even out yet but I still have yet to run into any show stoppers | Jan 09 03:36 |
| DaemonFC | I've been using it since the first beta | Jan 09 03:36 |
| DaemonFC | it is very stable | Jan 09 03:36 |
| DaemonFC | I have RC2 now | Jan 09 03:36 |
| prurigro | word, best kde yet? | Jan 09 03:36 |
| DaemonFC | definitely | Jan 09 03:36 |
| DaemonFC | even using kwin_gles | Jan 09 03:36 |
| DaemonFC | I started using kwin_gles in KDE 4.7 but kwin with either OpenGL or OpenGL ES has been sped up considerably in 4.8 | Jan 09 03:37 |
| prurigro | oh that's good to hear | Jan 09 03:37 |
| DaemonFC | anyone with reasonable hardware will have close to 60 fps | Jan 09 03:37 |
| DaemonFC | easily | Jan 09 03:37 |
| DaemonFC | even with all the eye candy enabled | Jan 09 03:38 |
| prurigro | when I first installed kde4 it went like a dog haha | Jan 09 03:38 |
| DaemonFC | they've actually been improving a lot of things lately | Jan 09 03:38 |
| DaemonFC | even KHTML | Jan 09 03:38 |
| DaemonFC | they added a bunch of CSS and HTML 5 improvements for KDE 4.8 in the KHTML rendering engine | Jan 09 03:39 |
| DaemonFC | it was stagnant for a long time | Jan 09 03:39 |
| DaemonFC | it's still not anything to brag about | Jan 09 03:39 |
| DaemonFC | but it is at least on par with Firefox 3.6 now | Jan 09 03:39 |
| DaemonFC | Dolphin and kio_file have gotten some major performance improvements | Jan 09 03:40 |
| DaemonFC | Konversation recently made their biggest release in a few years | Jan 09 03:41 |
| DaemonFC | Amarok just got a major feature release | Jan 09 03:41 |
| DaemonFC | though those are both in Extra Gear | Jan 09 03:41 |
| DaemonFC | (part of KDE, but with their own unpredictable release cycles) | Jan 09 03:41 |
| DaemonFC | kwin in KDE 4.8 is not only the smoothest compositing window manager I've used | Jan 09 03:42 |
| DaemonFC | it's the smoothest window manager I've used even with the compositor off | Jan 09 03:42 |
| DaemonFC | as a stacking window manager with no compositing turned on, it has tended to suffer from lag and tearing worse than Openbox or xfwm or metacity | Jan 09 03:44 |
| DaemonFC | but that seems to be gone in 4.8 | Jan 09 03:44 |
| DaemonFC | not that I usually run it like that | Jan 09 03:44 |
| DaemonFC | just something I noticed | Jan 09 03:44 |
| DaemonFC | the XRender backend has also gotten faster than it used to be | Jan 09 03:44 |
| prurigro | oh hm | Jan 09 03:44 |
| prurigro | sounds like a lot of low level stuff | Jan 09 03:45 |
| DaemonFC | no matter how you were running it in 4.7, it's faster now with less tearing | Jan 09 03:45 |
| prurigro | and wow, amarok is finally out for real? | Jan 09 03:45 |
| DaemonFC | Amarok 2.5 | Jan 09 03:45 |
| DaemonFC | it's a good release | Jan 09 03:45 |
| DaemonFC | even has Amazon MP3 integrated | Jan 09 03:45 |
| DaemonFC | 10% of your MP3 purchases through Amarok goes to KDE development | Jan 09 03:45 |
| prurigro | oh wow | Jan 09 03:46 |
| prurigro | its actually been out for a while then | Jan 09 03:46 |
| prurigro | haha | Jan 09 03:46 |
| DaemonFC | which is the same commission GNOME gets if you use Amazon MP3 through Banshee (assuming that nobody hijacked the plug-in to steal their commission, like Ubuntu and Mint did) | Jan 09 03:46 |
| prurigro | last I'd looked at it, its ui was horrendous | Jan 09 03:46 |
| prurigro | and lol | Jan 09 03:47 |
| prurigro | banshee eh | Jan 09 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Jan 09 03:47 |
| prurigro | I vaguely recall trying that one | Jan 09 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not thrilled with Banshee | Jan 09 03:47 |
| prurigro | wasn't it trying to continue xmms or something? | Jan 09 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | it is gratuitously and deliberately less compatible with KDE than it could be | Jan 09 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | and there's the whole Mono thing | Jan 09 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | so there's two reasons why I am not using that | Jan 09 03:48 |
| prurigro | oh dearm | Jan 09 03:48 |
| prurigro | dear* | Jan 09 03:48 |
| prurigro | mono should be for porting dot net apps | Jan 09 03:48 |
| prurigro | not for making new ones | Jan 09 03:48 |
| DaemonFC | it could be more compatible with KDE than it is just by following Freedesktop.org specifications it passes over in favor of GNOME specifics | Jan 09 03:48 |
| DaemonFC | so, you know | Jan 09 03:48 |
| DaemonFC | things like the playback controls on your keyboard | Jan 09 03:49 |
| DaemonFC | doesn't work unless you load GNOME daemons | Jan 09 03:49 |
| DaemonFC | (in KDE) | Jan 09 03:49 |
| prurigro | oh lame | Jan 09 03:49 |
| DaemonFC | the GNOME Settings Daemon has to be configured by gconf-editor | Jan 09 03:50 |
| prurigro | does gnome accept the freedesktop ones? | Jan 09 03:50 |
| DaemonFC | or else it tries taking over thigns like your desktop wallpaper | Jan 09 03:50 |
| DaemonFC | so it becomes a "swallowed the spider to catch the fly" to get Banshee working under KDE | Jan 09 03:50 |
| DaemonFC | and it's just, NOT worth the effort | Jan 09 03:50 |
| DaemonFC | Amarok is so much nicer | Jan 09 03:50 |
| DaemonFC | and it's there and it works | Jan 09 03:50 |
| DaemonFC | and it doesn't need Mono | Jan 09 03:50 |
| DaemonFC | prurigro: it's up to the application to follow the specifications for things like that, not the desktop environment | Jan 09 03:51 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME went and NIH'd a bunch of existing functionality and crammed it into GNOME Settings Daemon | Jan 09 03:52 |
| DaemonFC | to be shitheads | Jan 09 03:52 |
| DaemonFC | I guess | Jan 09 03:52 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 09 03:52 |
| prurigro | yea, but if gnome has separate standards | Jan 09 03:52 |
| DaemonFC | then they're not standards | Jan 09 03:52 |
| prurigro | would its daemon support the freedesktop ones too? | Jan 09 03:52 |
| DaemonFC | they are GNOME interfaces | Jan 09 03:52 |
| prurigro | specs | Jan 09 03:52 |
| DaemonFC | which fly in the face of the standard | Jan 09 03:52 |
| prurigro | for keyboard shortcuts though? | Jan 09 03:52 |
| DaemonFC | really things like the playback buttons on your keyboard..... | Jan 09 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | those should be sent over dbus | Jan 09 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | so that any application can choose to listen to them | Jan 09 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | not handled by a desktop environment's own daemon | Jan 09 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 09 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | if the desktop's daemons choose to intercept those keyboard events then it should be to make sure they are exported to the dbus | Jan 09 03:54 |
| DaemonFC | not to handle them themselves | Jan 09 03:54 |
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| DaemonFC | then anything that it listening for those events can tell when the user wants their music to play or pause or cycle back and forth in the playlist | Jan 09 03:55 |
| *prurigro gives voice to DaemonFC | Jan 09 03:55 | |
| prurigro | oh hmm, so where's the confusion between the two setups then? | Jan 09 03:56 |
| DaemonFC | this is one of those things that is just too simple to NOT work right without a little help from GNOME to make sure it doesn't always work right | Jan 09 03:56 |
| prurigro | and lol | Jan 09 03:56 |
| DaemonFC | OK, here's what SHOULD be going on | Jan 09 03:56 |
| prurigro | gnome or the app devs? | Jan 09 03:56 |
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| DaemonFC | I press Play button > GNOME or KDE have a daemon that makes sure it is exported to the dbus > media player notices the event on the dbus and plays the song | Jan 09 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | hooray | Jan 09 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | media player does not have to care why the event is in the dbus | Jan 09 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | only that it happened | Jan 09 03:58 |
| DaemonFC | not what put it there | Jan 09 03:58 |
| DaemonFC | just that it IS there | Jan 09 03:58 |
| DaemonFC | in fact, that's how most media players, including Amarok, and what KDE itself does | Jan 09 03:58 |
| prurigro | hmm interesting | Jan 09 03:58 |
| DaemonFC | in GNOME with Banshee or Rhythmbox it's more like this | Jan 09 03:58 |
| prurigro | assumes a daemon exists, but seems reasonable at handling things | Jan 09 03:58 |
| DaemonFC | I press Play > GNOME Settings Daemon exports it to the dbus but ALSO notifies applications itself > Rhythmbox and Banshee only listen to GNOME Setting Daemon announcing these events and not the dbus | Jan 09 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | so when I use Rhythmbox or Banshee in KDE, it looks like THIS | Jan 09 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | I press Play, KDE sends the event over the dbus, Rhythmbox/Banshee ignore the dbus and do nothing | Jan 09 04:00 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 09 04:00 |
| DaemonFC | see why I am pissed? | Jan 09 04:00 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jan 09 04:00 |
| DaemonFC | they should be listening to the dbus and whoever had GNOME Settings Daemon duplicate the event announcements should be shot | Jan 09 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | twice | Jan 09 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 09 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | you know, for irony | Jan 09 04:02 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jan 09 04:02 |
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| DaemonFC | in case they weren't paying attention the first time | Jan 09 04:05 |
| DaemonFC | and with two different caliber handguns | Jan 09 04:06 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jan 09 04:06 |
| DaemonFC | When Banshee limits itself to only working properly under GNOME, they're also helping to marginalize themselves | Jan 09 04:07 |
| DaemonFC | so maybe it's not a bad thing | Jan 09 04:07 |
| DaemonFC | http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect2=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/search-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&d=PALL&RefSrch=yes&Query=PN/4779187 | Jan 09 04:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: United States Patent: 4779187 .::. Size~: 66.84 KB | Jan 09 04:10 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Jan 09 04:10 |
| prurigro | DaemonFC, lol, yea, that sounds a bit nuts-- I gotta admit, kde apps that don't require kde services (so I guess more like qt apps) are a dream on gnome, in comparison | Jan 09 04:11 |
| prurigro | even match the theme | Jan 09 04:11 |
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| prurigro | and wow on the patent | Jan 09 04:11 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft went through so much effort to patent a way to switch back and forth between real and protected mode on the 80386 | Jan 09 04:12 |
| prurigro | that's so overtly ridiculous its not even funny | Jan 09 04:13 |
| DaemonFC | err 80286 I meant | Jan 09 04:13 |
| prurigro | either or | Jan 09 04:13 |
| DaemonFC | it's because they found a way to make that particular CPU switch back into real mode from protected mode | Jan 09 04:14 |
| DaemonFC | which it wasn't designed to do | Jan 09 04:14 |
| DaemonFC | and they wanted to make sure nobody else's operating system could do that | Jan 09 04:14 |
| prurigro | sure, not the way they did it | Jan 09 04:15 |
| prurigro | but period? that's a bit ridiculous | Jan 09 04:15 |
| DaemonFC | most operating systems at that time ran in one or the other | Jan 09 04:15 |
| DaemonFC | and if they switched into protected mode, they had no interest in going back to real mode | Jan 09 04:15 |
| DaemonFC | so the patent was gratuitous | Jan 09 04:15 |
| DaemonFC | the only reason Microsoft needed it was because Windows ran on DOS | Jan 09 04:16 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jan 09 04:16 |
| DaemonFC | the user starts Windows, and uh oh, we might need memory protection and access to more than 1 MB of RAM | Jan 09 04:17 |
| DaemonFC | the user exits Windows, and "shit, Intel didn't document how to do this!" let's figure out a hack and patent it!" | Jan 09 04:17 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft has a habit of trying to patent almost everything they do no matter how unimportant it actually is | Jan 09 04:18 |
| DaemonFC | if they get thousands of those patents it starts becoming a means of "area denial" to competitors | Jan 09 04:18 |
| prurigro | lol, and everything other people do too, just in case | Jan 09 04:18 |
| DaemonFC | http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect2=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&d=PALL&RefSrch=yes&Query=PN%2F4825358 | Jan 09 04:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: United States Patent: 4825358 .::. Size~: 77.71 KB | Jan 09 04:20 |
| DaemonFC | then they found another way to do that | Jan 09 04:20 |
| DaemonFC | and patented that too | Jan 09 04:20 |
| DaemonFC | and this one also covers what appears to be running DOS programs in the MS-DOS Prompt while Windows is running in the background | Jan 09 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | and it also applied (because it is expired now) to OS/2 | Jan 09 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | which ran DOS programs in the same way | Jan 09 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | it never would have covered Dosbox | Jan 09 04:23 |
| DaemonFC | because Dosbox emulates an x86 CPU running in real mode | Jan 09 04:23 |
| DaemonFC | it does not switch the physical CPU into real mode | Jan 09 04:23 |
| formic_ | Most of these things apply to the united states of corruption | Jan 09 04:24 |
| DaemonFC | "Preferred methods in accordance with the present invention preferably include steps designed to eliminate compatibility problems between existing MS-DOS programs written for the 8086 and the 80286 operating in real mode. Such problems arise from the fact that the 80286, in real mode, does not emulate the 8086-8088 chip family completely accurately. One such compatibility problem is known as the "1 megabyte wrap" problem. Because the 8086 cannot | Jan 09 04:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @thistleweb A frightening thought - babies born this year it's nice to know what this is why documentation should be too good for | Jan 09 04:26 | |
| DaemonFC | address memory above 1 megabyte, attempts to address memory locations above 1 megabyte resulted in any values that would be stored in bits above bit-19 being ignored. Consequently, an attempt to address location 11111111111111111111+010 would cause the address to be "wrapped" around to low memory location 01. Some programs written for the 8086 rely on this feature to run properly. Unfortunately, memory locations extend above 1 megabyte in the | Jan 09 04:26 |
| DaemonFC | real mode of the 80286 and are not wrapped to low memory locations. Consequently, programs including those written in MicroSoft PASCAL and programs which use the "Call 5 " feature of MS-DOS will fail on the standard 80286 system. Operating systems designed in accordance with the present invention preferably provide two alternate solutions to this problem." | Jan 09 04:26 |
| DaemonFC | LMAO | Jan 09 04:26 |
| DaemonFC | yuck | Jan 09 04:26 |
| formic_ | Do you even understand what that means? | Jan 09 04:27 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, it also is relevant to systems with EFI | Jan 09 04:27 |
| formic_ | In your own words, summarize it | Jan 09 04:27 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Volunteers required to measure the Quality of Service of Internet in India. http://ur1.ca/7cr7t | Jan 09 04:29 | |
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| DaemonFC | OK, the EFI does not have all of the legacy memory controller address lines of the PC BIOS | Jan 09 04:29 |
| DaemonFC | many of which are entirely functionless today or are used for tasks which they were not specifically designed for | Jan 09 04:30 |
| DaemonFC | one of those address lines used to map to the keyboard controller on a PC, but hasn't in many years | Jan 09 04:30 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 09 04:30 |
| DaemonFC | banging on the address line that mapped to the keyboard controller was how you got the BIOS to reboot a PC | Jan 09 04:31 |
| formic_ | Why does this even matter today | Jan 09 04:31 |
| DaemonFC | it's still one of the ways you can make a PC with a BIOS reboot | Jan 09 04:31 |
| DaemonFC | the BIOS emulates a keyboard controller for the operating system to bang on when it wants to reboot | Jan 09 04:32 |
| DaemonFC | since EFI doesn't provide that, then attempting to reboot via this method will do nothing | Jan 09 04:32 |
| formic_ | That's a roundabout way of rebooting | Jan 09 04:32 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, there's several ways to reboot a PC | Jan 09 04:33 |
| DaemonFC | Windows and Linux try them all in order until something happens | Jan 09 04:33 |
| DaemonFC | so the lack of an emulated keyboard controller usually does not affect your ability to reboot a system with EFI | Jan 09 04:34 |
| DaemonFC | but it is also one less way to restart the system | Jan 09 04:34 |
| DaemonFC | so if other methods fail for some reason, so will this | Jan 09 04:34 |
| formic_ | Seems like people are being lazy | Jan 09 04:35 |
| formic_ | There is a hardware reset switch | Jan 09 04:36 |
| DaemonFC | not on many systems | Jan 09 04:36 |
| DaemonFC | http://mjg59.livejournal.com/118098.html | Jan 09 04:36 |
| formic_ | Except with apple | Jan 09 04:36 |
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| DaemonFC | there's also this | Jan 09 04:37 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jan 09 04:37 |
| formic_ | What is it | Jan 09 04:37 |
| formic_ | I'm on my iPod ATM | Jan 09 04:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clackemovedtoparlementumnet/@clackemovedtoparlementumnet] RT @nuclearsandwich Returning from my long absence from the identiverse with the announcement that I've started watching Ergo Proxy. | Jan 09 04:39 | |
| DaemonFC | grub legacy and how it dealt with the A20 situation | Jan 09 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | if the BIOS lied and claimed that there was more than a megabyte of RAM but really that memory hadn't been enabled, then the kernel would end up loading at an address beyond the 8086/8088 wrap around | Jan 09 04:40 |
| formic_ | I'll check it later | Jan 09 04:40 |
| DaemonFC | instead of a real memory address | Jan 09 04:40 |
| DaemonFC | the problem would have also occurred on an Intel Mac if grub legacy had ever been EFI compatible in the first place | Jan 09 04:41 |
| formic_ | I remember microsoft used to give 640k of the first mb | Jan 09 04:41 |
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| DaemonFC | at that point in time, you'd be more likely to use elilo and never hit that problem | Jan 09 04:41 |
| formic_ | Kept the rest for itself | Jan 09 04:42 |
| DaemonFC | no, it had 640K of conventional memory | Jan 09 04:42 |
| DaemonFC | and 384K of upper memory | Jan 09 04:42 |
| DaemonFC | and the first megabyte was all that DOS was aware of on its own | Jan 09 04:42 |
| formic_ | Upper memory used to be reserved | Jan 09 04:42 |
| DaemonFC | for the system, which didn't even use it all | Jan 09 04:43 |
| DaemonFC | talk about bad design, right? | Jan 09 04:43 |
| formic_ | Word used it | Jan 09 04:43 |
| formic_ | Gave them an advantage | Jan 09 04:43 |
| DaemonFC | well, you could load things in upper memory but you had to use HIMEM.SYS to do it | Jan 09 04:43 |
| DaemonFC | which used some conventional memory itself | Jan 09 04:44 |
| formic_ | That was later | Jan 09 04:44 |
| formic_ | After people found out | Jan 09 04:44 |
| DaemonFC | right, then you get to the Extended vs. Expanded memory problem | Jan 09 04:44 |
| DaemonFC | and EMM386.EXE or QEMM386.EXE | Jan 09 04:44 |
| formic_ | Nightmares | Jan 09 04:45 |
| DaemonFC | and it got better | Jan 09 04:45 |
| DaemonFC | if you used Quarterdeck's extended memory manager..... | Jan 09 04:45 |
| DaemonFC | Windows for Workgroups would not load | Jan 09 04:45 |
| DaemonFC | instead, it would freeze the computer | Jan 09 04:45 |
| formic_ | You could lose data too | Jan 09 04:45 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jan 09 04:45 |
| formic_ | Memmaker fixed that | Jan 09 04:46 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft has never been forward looking | Jan 09 04:46 |
| DaemonFC | no, Memmaker was actually less effective than my custom settings | Jan 09 04:46 |
| DaemonFC | I actually lost conventional memory after running it | Jan 09 04:47 |
| DaemonFC | good thing I backed my settings up | Jan 09 04:47 |
| formic_ | I learned from it and did custom too | Jan 09 04:47 |
| formic_ | Device high | Jan 09 04:47 |
| formic_ | My first version of dos was 6.x | Jan 09 04:48 |
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| formic_ | Hi xface | Jan 09 04:49 |
| *XFaCE gives voice to Diablo-D3 | Jan 09 04:50 | |
| *XFaCE gives channel operator status to Diablo-D3 | Jan 09 04:50 | |
| XFaCE | hi formic_ | Jan 09 04:50 |
| XFaCE | ah, windows 3.1.1 | Jan 09 04:50 |
| formic_ | 3.11 | Jan 09 04:50 |
| XFaCE | configuring config.sys for hours when something breaks | Jan 09 04:50 |
| formic_ | Lol really? | Jan 09 04:51 |
| formic_ | Hours? | Jan 09 04:51 |
| XFaCE | I remember as a kid, my parents doing this | Jan 09 04:51 |
| formic_ | Rebooting took a few seconds | Jan 09 04:51 |
| formic_ | Ohhh parents | Jan 09 04:51 |
| XFaCE | I probably could do it in less time, but whatever it was crippled the machine for quite awhile | Jan 09 04:52 |
| formic_ | Parents are noobs | Jan 09 04:52 |
| XFaCE | ooo, and there was the time I some created a looping directory, and when I tried to delete it, everthing else on the HD got wiped | Jan 09 04:52 |
| XFaCE | ahh, those days | Jan 09 04:52 |
| formic_ | Lol | Jan 09 04:53 |
| XFaCE | *somehow | Jan 09 04:54 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] *sigh* | Jan 09 05:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @openattitude 10 reasons to move to !Linux in 2012 | Computerworld http://ur1.ca/7crgl via @mintcast | Jan 09 05:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♺ @corq: RT @TheRealSpaf: Hacked memo leaked: Apple, Nokia, RIM supply backdoors for gov't intercept? - Computerworld http://t.co/bxSrVnG8 | Jan 09 05:04 | |
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| DaemonFC | [23:51] <XFaCE> I probably could do it in less time, but whatever it was crippled the machine for quite awhile | Jan 09 05:08 |
| DaemonFC | Windows Me? | Jan 09 05:08 |
| XFaCE | this was 1996, so no :P | Jan 09 05:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] You need to encrypt your mail. http://is.gd/y5khft | Jan 09 05:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @parlementum Great post on the need for encrypted email for the "average joe." RD @lnxwalt Moving Away From Webmail: Why? http://t.co ... | Jan 09 05:14 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/9525.html | Jan 09 05:38 |
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| prurigro | lol "the unix philosophy", been a while since I've heard people push in that direction | Jan 09 05:42 |
| prurigro | I like it tho | Jan 09 05:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] The joy of Microsoft's 'avoid ghetto' GPS patent http://www.ur1.ca/7csu8 | Jan 09 05:42 | |
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| DaemonFC | what's wrong with doing everything and getting it all wrong? | Jan 09 05:46 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME does that | Jan 09 05:46 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 09 05:46 |
| prurigro | lol, defining "wrong" as "what DaemonFC doesn't like" | Jan 09 05:48 |
| DaemonFC | calling them wrong is an understatement | Jan 09 05:53 |
| prurigro | lol | Jan 09 05:53 |
| DaemonFC | in the mirror universe they're not right | Jan 09 05:53 |
| DaemonFC | they're more wrong | Jan 09 05:54 |
| prurigro | using the definition of "wrong" I gave, correct? | Jan 09 05:54 |
| DaemonFC | well, if you want me to be mean I could say things like | Jan 09 05:54 |
| DaemonFC | stupid | Jan 09 05:54 |
| DaemonFC | utterly pointless | Jan 09 05:54 |
| DaemonFC | devoid of common sense | Jan 09 05:54 |
| prurigro | I think controversial is the best term I've heard used for it | Jan 09 05:55 |
| DaemonFC | everything is controversial | Jan 09 05:58 |
| DaemonFC | everything is a scandal | Jan 09 05:58 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME 3 is stupid | Jan 09 05:58 |
| DaemonFC | not everything is stupid | Jan 09 05:58 |
| DaemonFC | controversy and scandal require one person to be disagreeing with someone else | Jan 09 05:59 |
| DaemonFC | where I can define what I consider to be stupid | Jan 09 05:59 |
| DaemonFC | and cause a scandalous controversy when someone rushes to their defense | Jan 09 05:59 |
| prurigro | so much hate-- what if it'd been released as a separate DE? | Jan 09 06:00 |
| DaemonFC | well, that's the thing | Jan 09 06:00 |
| DaemonFC | if a program decides it wants to do things the GNOME way instead of the standards compliant way, that is one less program I will use | Jan 09 06:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Sorry, I'll try to get it going tomorrow morning. Thanks for the note. | Jan 09 06:01 | |
| DaemonFC | there's plenty of software that uses GTK+ that works fine in KDE | Jan 09 06:01 |
| prurigro | I prefer software that doesn't try to stick itself into either 'platform' | Jan 09 06:02 |
| DaemonFC | it's not like Banshee or Rhythmbox require huge chunks of GNOME | Jan 09 06:03 |
| DaemonFC | they just do things like I mentioned earlier | Jan 09 06:03 |
| DaemonFC | when they could just do it in a way that works everywhere, they don't | Jan 09 06:03 |
| DaemonFC | because having one more program that only works right under GNOME is more important to them than promoting free software | Jan 09 06:03 |
| prurigro | what's strange is that it'd probably work right under gnome either way | Jan 09 06:04 |
| prurigro | kde apps work in gnome | Jan 09 06:04 |
| prurigro | or rather, qt is the fair comparison | Jan 09 06:04 |
| prurigro | since kde apps load the kde service backends | Jan 09 06:04 |
| prurigro | even if there was an issue though, I'd just throw in hooks depending on your DE | Jan 09 06:05 |
| DaemonFC | I've used Amarok and K3B and others under GNOME | Jan 09 06:08 |
| prurigro | me too | Jan 09 06:08 |
| prurigro | I mean, I use gnome lol | Jan 09 06:08 |
| DaemonFC | they pull in parts of KDE, but nothing stops them from working right just out of spite if you use them in GNOME | Jan 09 06:08 |
| prurigro | k3b isn't bad | Jan 09 06:12 |
| prurigro | its more the ones that try to get all the hardcore kde services like the sound system going that I really don't like | Jan 09 06:13 |
| prurigro | though that might have changed, since I haven't used those in a while | Jan 09 06:13 |
| DaemonFC | that patent, lol | Jan 09 06:13 |
| DaemonFC | safe, safe, ghetto, war zone | Jan 09 06:13 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 09 06:13 |
| DaemonFC | anyway, going to bed | Jan 09 06:14 |
| DaemonFC | night night | Jan 09 06:14 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] Have you let us know your dietary requirements during registration? Have they changed? Let us know before tomorrow lunchtime! #LCA2012 | Jan 09 06:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @jacobwb Redesigned Identica share button: http://ur1.ca/7ct1i - Get it: http://ur1.ca/4kyuy | Jan 09 06:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I think you're looking for http://www.limesurvey.org/ | Jan 09 06:46 | |
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| scientes | what frontend to iptables should I use? | Jan 09 07:00 |
| MinceR | i can recommend shorewall | Jan 09 07:01 |
| scientes | I had a nice little ruby NAT script with forwarding that I made once | Jan 09 07:03 |
| scientes | I liked it alot, but I don't have that machine here | Jan 09 07:03 |
| scientes | also, how do i build redundant links to a single ip address? | Jan 09 07:04 |
| MinceR | dunno | Jan 09 07:06 |
| scientes | shorewall seems like super overkill | Jan 09 07:06 |
| scientes | i really just need pppoeconf + NAT/MASQUERADE | Jan 09 07:06 |
| scientes | with port forwarding | Jan 09 07:07 |
| MinceR | dunno, it | Jan 09 07:07 |
| MinceR | dunno, it's the only thing i used to set up NAT, not counting the stuff my router came with | Jan 09 07:07 |
| scientes | its that this damn router doesn't do port forwarding right, and even telneting into I can for the life of me figure out to get it to forward to arbitrary hosts | Jan 09 07:07 |
| scientes | also, i've had problems with those AR7 routers | Jan 09 07:07 |
| scientes | ehhh, i'd rather not even do that however | Jan 09 07:10 |
| scientes | i'd really just prefer to get port forwarding to work | Jan 09 07:10 |
| scientes | or dmz | Jan 09 07:10 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] RT @haakonme Webcam+Motion + GNU SIP Witch text message + CSipSimple on Android phone = Message to your phone when something moves in fr ... | Jan 09 08:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzag Identizens. | Jan 09 08:52 | |
| roy_ | "Ditto Two friends have defected from iPhone to the Samsung Nexus Prime ICS (which is what I use) " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1143861 | Jan 09 08:57 |
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| roy_ | JoinDiaspora is still broken | Jan 09 08:57 |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Turns out ROSA forked Mandriva towards the end of December. It's called ROSA and on http://distrowatch.com found out since a Mageia mailing list earlier, | Jan 09 09:03 |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: also http://apple.slashdot.org/story/12/01/08/069204/leaked-memo-says-apple-provides-backdoor-to-governments | Jan 09 09:04 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels now | Jan 09 09:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Waiting at luton train station, no probs though, I now have my Kindle. Train, you can be as late as you like. | Jan 09 09:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Counterfeiting Versus Free Software in Kenya http://is.gd/10TVEe #africa #freedom | Jan 09 09:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Twitter Ordered To Turn Over Data On #WikiLeaks Backers - http://rww.to/wbBqGu not good, but hardly unexpected in present climate | Jan 09 09:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Spy watchdog seeks curbs on UK court access to intelligence material - http://bit.ly/x3u3Ga lazy, shameful move | Jan 09 09:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] MPAA Joins RIAA in “Monstrous” Jammie Thomas Appeal - http://bit.ly/y3IXn1 truly pettty & vindictive bunch | Jan 09 09:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] JamesFirth James Firth @ @glynmoody Meanwhile another secretive government body urges AGAINST the plans: ejf.me/q0 | Jan 09 09:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] Thanks to all the donors http://ur1.ca/5mo1w and !fellows http://ur1.ca/7cy2d who support our work! Don't you want to be one of them? | Jan 09 09:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #London In Detail - http://bit.ly/yigJVd amazing hi-res zoomable panaroma; don't miss | Jan 09 09:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Before DNA, before RNA: Life in the hodge-podge world - http://bit.ly/y6wCFh not just RNA and DNA - enter TNA #genomics | Jan 09 09:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #China’s Internet lexicon: Symbolic meaning & commoditization of Grass Mud Horse in harmonious society - http://bit.ly/w81lCY amazing meme | Jan 09 09:56 | |
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| schestowitz | Can't really post news until joindiaspora gets its collective ****** together | Jan 09 10:08 |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: http://sixgun.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4044 | Jan 09 10:20 |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: its what? | Jan 09 10:20 |
| schestowitz | dunno | Jan 09 10:21 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Those at #CES should pay a visit to #gobandit. Coolest sports/helmet camera ever. #justsayin | Jan 09 10:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Socially Positioning #Sherlock and Dr John Watson’s Blog… - http://bit.ly/AmJxpC interesting analysis | Jan 09 10:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: Tagesspiegel Open-Data-Bewegung http://t.co/lpHhqk9j but #opendata more than apps http://p.ost.im/p/e5tX2W | Jan 09 10:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Google open sources new #HTML5 #video tool - http://bit.ly/wnmKIO kept that quiet... | Jan 09 10:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Oh great! I have hidden away an important usb stick so well I can't find it. | Jan 09 10:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Baidu Encyclopedia Digital #Museum - http://bit.ly/wj5XPN nice #china | Jan 09 10:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #CES: Survey Finds Traditional #TV Viewing Is Collapsing - http://onforb.es/x2vm9X about time too... | Jan 09 10:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Reddit smashes the 2 billion pageview barrier in December - http://tnw.co/ytR0np #reddit is the new #slashdot | Jan 09 10:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody Google open sources new #HTML5 #video tool - http://bit.ly/wnmKIO kept that quiet... | Jan 09 11:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Social Cookbook: an open source Open Graph app - http://bit.ly/yTgWdz good to see more #opensource from #facebook | Jan 09 11:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Chinese factories now manufacturing #shanzhai Indian goods - http://bit.ly/ykG23f wow, signs of the times... #india | Jan 09 11:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Canonical to showcase #Ubuntu #TV at CES - http://bit.ly/zm83c8 shouldn't we be burying TV, not praising it? | Jan 09 11:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 2012 to be year of #Linux domination - http://bit.ly/zSIrSy upbeat appraisal | Jan 09 11:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Microsoft hustled UK retreat on open standards, says leaked report - http://bit.ly/Avq16g as I guessed: Cabinet Office betrayed us all | Jan 09 11:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Hm. Let's see how this plays out:"Components for Ubuntu TV produced by Canonical are generally licensed under the GPLv... http://b1t.it/arDr | Jan 09 11:39 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Hm. Let's see how this plays out: "Components for Ubuntu… .::. Size~: 48.52 KB | Jan 09 11:39 |
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| kleetshko | hey roy! | Jan 09 11:56 |
| kleetshko | what's happening:) | Jan 09 11:58 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK Government Betrayal of #OpenStandards Confirmed - http://bit.ly/zXiVXN grovelling to #Microsoft - what a surprise | Jan 09 12:04 | |
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| iophk | So MS got the UK Cabinet office to use a broken definition of Open Standard. | Jan 09 12:11 |
| iophk | Strange that the office was so malleable. | Jan 09 12:11 |
| schestowitz | Nstandards | Jan 09 12:12 |
| schestowitz | "interop" | Jan 09 12:12 |
| schestowitz | Like Novell | Jan 09 12:12 |
| schestowitz | The new prpagands | Jan 09 12:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | well that just means we cut UK out | Jan 09 12:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | if they won't support FOSS, then they are already obsolete. | Jan 09 12:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | time for a regime change | Jan 09 12:12 |
| iophk | No oil. | Jan 09 12:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | no, but we can turn it into a giant air strip. | Jan 09 12:16 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] What Microsoft thinks is an open Standard:"It said the government should officially adopt standards only under terms d... http://b1t.it/arEE | Jan 09 12:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Samsung-backed open-source mobile OS #Tizen leaks in new screenshots - http://tnw.co/whEUMk looks familiar #linux | Jan 09 12:22 | |
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| iophk | MS has been pushing RAND for more than a few years now. | Jan 09 12:23 |
| schestowitz | using the BSA and other front groups | Jan 09 12:25 |
| schestowitz | I have justw wasted 2 hours of work | Jan 09 12:25 |
| iophk | How? | Jan 09 12:25 |
| schestowitz | realised that i was editing the file on a wrong box | Jan 09 12:26 |
| schestowitz | very annoying, but sometimes errors have to happen | Jan 09 12:26 |
| iophk | Can't you port the changes over to the right box? | Jan 09 12:26 |
| schestowitz | Bascially it's a messed up setup | Jan 09 12:27 |
| schestowitz | I told them to use NFS | Jan 09 12:27 |
| iophk | What did they use by mistake instead of NFS? | Jan 09 12:27 |
| schestowitz | But the admin doesn't seem to know how, he's too beholden to Windows, so I just rsync portions across the servers | Jan 09 12:27 |
| schestowitz | they don't use any system for keeping files in sync across servers | Jan 09 12:28 |
| schestowitz | not even passwords | Jan 09 12:28 |
| schestowitz | I think it's to do with the way the computational servers grew | Jan 09 12:28 |
| schestowitz | poor planning ahead, if any | Jan 09 12:28 |
| iophk | What size is the machine pool? Some refitting can be done. | Jan 09 12:29 |
| schestowitz | 2 machines mostly | Jan 09 12:30 |
| schestowitz | 3rd one coming, 16 or 32 cores | Jan 09 12:30 |
| schestowitz | I finally got them to at least mount a fiel servr | Jan 09 12:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Ubuntu TV has Unity-inspired UI, will ship on televisions by end of 2012 | The Verge http://goo.gl/bRGaJ | Jan 09 12:31 | |
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| schestowitz | in the past they'd run some ssh daemon on a wintendo box | Jan 09 12:31 |
| iophk | First step - purge all device of Wintel crap | Jan 09 12:31 |
| schestowitz | I had a dream last night where I use Windows | Jan 09 12:31 |
| schestowitz | I can't recall what it was about | Jan 09 12:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] US customs can and will seize laptops and cellphones, demand passwords - http://bit.ly/w8NrcV another reason not to go there (v @Asher_Wolf) | Jan 09 12:34 | |
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| schestowitz | Smething even worse happened at one stage | Jan 09 12:37 |
| schestowitz | when kio/kate did not send the file back over scp | Jan 09 12:37 |
| schestowitz | and so it went blank, I have backups thankfully. This never happened before. | Jan 09 12:37 |
| oiaohm | Really soon as I have samba 4 and can kill of all windows ADS servers the better. | Jan 09 12:43 |
| oiaohm | The ADS method of replication is lets have a design that can cascaed out of control. | Jan 09 12:44 |
| oiaohm | Core server fails. Different server comes back on line. | Jan 09 12:44 |
| oiaohm | Then when core server starts up the complete windows network throws a hissy fit. | Jan 09 12:44 |
| schestowitz | I spent the past week just writing, not coding. http://schestowitz.com/Research/GMDS/Documents/2011/primer/primer.pdf (535 pages) | Jan 09 12:44 |
| oiaohm | So windows admin don't do what us Linux people do with ldap replication. | Jan 09 12:45 |
| oiaohm | Because the windows equal does not work. | Jan 09 12:45 |
| oiaohm | yep this is why they are so untrusting of replication methods. | Jan 09 12:45 |
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| oiaohm | http://www.droidoid.com/news/25/android-powered-3d-goggles-be-revealed-ces-2011 This looks cool. | Jan 09 12:47 |
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| oiaohm | Nice way not to have a person look over you sholder at the document you are reading. | Jan 09 12:47 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: in this case, I think the problem is that the process copying the file I was editing was interrupted, leaving the file empty | Jan 09 12:52 |
| schestowitz | anyway, it's back to working condition, after like 3-4 hours of work trying to get it back into life | Jan 09 12:52 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: ntfs having a bad day can magic out a file so can a ext4 on high speed. | Jan 09 12:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Mandriva Linux maker could enter bankruptcy next week (InfoWorld): http://bit.ly/zMgD2s | Jan 09 12:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @glynmoody US customs can and will seize laptops and cellphones, demand passwords - http://bit.ly/w8NrcV another reason not to go the ... | Jan 09 12:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Rosia Montana Cyanide open-pit in the heart of Carpathian garden (eseu) http://ur1.ca/7d23w #environment #romania #cyanide #gmc #politics | Jan 09 12:59 | |
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| iophk | It's one shareholder holding up Mandriva: "It is apparently the company LinLux, which holds a 42 percent stake in Mandriva, that has repeatedly rejected efforts to increase Mandriva's funding, despite the fact that Townarea Trading & Investments -- another shareholder -- was willing to single-handedly support a capital infusion of €4 million." | Jan 09 13:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @glynmoody Samsung-backed open-source mobile OS #Tizen leaks in new screenshots - http://tnw.co/whEUMk looks familiar #linux | Jan 09 13:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @jwildeboer What Microsoft thinks is an open Standard:"It said the government should officially adopt standards only under terms d... ... | Jan 09 13:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @glynmoody UK Government Betrayal of #OpenStandards Confirmed - http://bit.ly/zXiVXN grovelling to #Microsoft - what a surprise | Jan 09 13:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @glynmoody 2012 to be year of #Linux domination - http://bit.ly/zSIrSy upbeat appraisal | Jan 09 13:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @ejdecena !Ubuntu TV en el CES 2012 > http://is.gd/kwtiNn | Jan 09 13:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @glynmoody Social Cookbook: an open source Open Graph app - http://bit.ly/yTgWdz good to see more #opensource from #facebook | Jan 09 13:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @glynmoody Google open sources new #HTML5 #video tool - http://bit.ly/wnmKIO kept that quiet... | Jan 09 13:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @glynmoody #CES: Survey Finds Traditional #TV Viewing Is Collapsing - http://onforb.es/x2vm9X about time too... | Jan 09 13:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The problems with leap seconds (Computerworld, August): http://bit.ly/zJWfn5 | Jan 09 13:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @charlesschulz "#Canonical unveils the #Ubuntu TV! #CES #Linux" http://ur1.ca/7cvvb | Jan 09 13:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @thistleweb Good morning, and today we remember another anniversary of my head i'm counting 5 in the way! | Jan 09 13:14 | |
| *XFaCE gives voice to schestowitz | Jan 09 13:19 | |
| *XFaCE gives voice to jono | Jan 09 13:19 | |
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| schestowitz | iophk: interesting quote | Jan 09 13:19 |
| *XFaCE gives voice to schestowitz | Jan 09 13:20 | |
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| iophk | Yes. One part-owner (aka shareholder) wants to single-handedly support Manrdiva through this crisis. Another, is blocking it, apparently wanting Mandriva to shut down. | Jan 09 13:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @fsfe Thanks to all the donors http://ur1.ca/5mo1w and !fellows http://ur1.ca/7cy2d who support our work! Don't you want to be one of ... | Jan 09 13:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] RT @fsfeuk Leaked report claims Microsoft lobbying behind Government back-down on Open Standards: http://s.coop/7u08 http://s.coop/7u09 | Jan 09 13:26 | |
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| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2012/01/09/first-year-work-published/ | Jan 09 13:38 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fabio Dumps the Apple iPhone, Chooses Linux/Android Instead http://is.gd/AdhT7m #apple #iphone #linux #android | Jan 09 13:47 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Fabio Dumps the Apple iPhone, Chooses Linux/Android Instead .::. Size~: 34.91 KB | Jan 09 13:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Longest Document I’ve Ever Published http://is.gd/mGqHzV a year's work | Jan 09 13:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !linuxlibre 3.1.8-libre-lemote, 3.0.16-libre-lemote, and 2.6.32.53-libre2-lemote .debs for !gnewsense !yeeloong now available | Jan 09 13:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Facebook Breaks the Web http://is.gd/EFcSWp #Facebook | Jan 09 14:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Buy A 1-Year Nook NYT Subscription, Get The Nook Free - http://bit.ly/zqDpT2 this will become common, maybe the norm #ebooks | Jan 09 14:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Management ideology: The last bastion of American hegemony by @JBirkinshaw | http://red.ht/A3DgoZ #hackmanagement | Jan 09 14:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Leaked Memo Says Apple Provides Backdoor To Governments http://ur1.ca/7ccjq #apple #security #privacy #software #mobile #cellphone #iphone | Jan 09 14:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Facebook Breaks the Web http://is.gd/EFcSWp #Facebook | Jan 09 14:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Fabio Dumps the Apple iPhone, Chooses Linux/Android Instead http://is.gd/AdhT7m #apple #iphone #linux #android | Jan 09 14:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @jacobwb Redesigned Identica share button: http://ur1.ca/7ct1i - Get it: http://ur1.ca/4kyuy | Jan 09 14:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] WordPress Update Cycle http://is.gd/BIrxy7 #WordPress #CMS | Jan 09 14:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Recomand #peblog : curs online de Internet Governance pentru orice internaut ce vrea sa invete http://t.co/85JRSxjh (via @legiinternet) | Jan 09 14:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Buy A 1-Year Nook NYT Subscription, Get The Nook Free - http://bit.ly/zqDpT2 this will become common, maybe the norm #ebooks | Jan 09 14:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #Cenatic and #Extremadura to continue development of #Linex http://ur1.ca/7a2yc #gnu #linux #spain #software #egovt | Jan 09 14:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] How does our brain know what is a face and what’s not? from MIT News http://ow.ly/8mzuT | Jan 09 14:17 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How does our brain know what is a face and what’s not? - MIT News Office .::. Size~: 23.6 KB | Jan 09 14:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Boycott SOPA: The Android app that identifies products sold by SOPA-backing companies http://t.co/Ep2VkI6m #Technology via @zuvvu | Jan 09 14:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I wonder how many "top 10 pirated movies" type posts #TorrentFreak have done last yr.....guesses? are they mimicking trad compilations? | Jan 09 14:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #righthaven.com should be awarded free to their critics, with a stipend to pay for it's upkeep, as a wiki of all their malpractice | Jan 09 14:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Firefox Versus KDE Browsers (Rekonq Recommendation) http://is.gd/KKy9xc #kde #Rekonq #firefox | Jan 09 14:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @vvillenave The first !hacker was using #Morse code in 1903… and already in it for the lulz http://ur1.ca/7d3x3 | Jan 09 14:27 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Dot-dash-diss: The gentleman hacker's 1903 lulz - tech - 27 December 2011 - New Scientist .::. Size~: 54.64 KB | Jan 09 14:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @vibrance #Samsung backed #open-source #mobile OS #Tizen (#Android rival) leaks in new screenshots http://goo.gl/nnX9h !android !mobi ... | Jan 09 14:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it'd be funny if the media who defend the "private lives are there to be exploited" line, had their private lives thrown to the publicdomain | Jan 09 14:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] would anyone have sympathy if the editors and journos got some poetic justice? #NOW | Jan 09 14:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Android Rival Tizen Leaks in New Screenshots .::. Size~: 97.27 KB | Jan 09 14:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] watch them moan and complain on privacy grounds when armies of bloggers pour over their private lives to influence search results | Jan 09 14:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] watch them scramble down the couch for spare cash to pay for laywers to keep their dirty secrets secret to protect their self made image | Jan 09 14:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Digital literacy campaign – we need your help http://goo.gl/pehA5 | Jan 09 14:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Digital literacy campaign – we need your help | Education | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 294.1 KB | Jan 09 14:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Ubuntu TV unveiled (PC Pro) http://ur1.ca/7d47u | Jan 09 14:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Employers to hire more !Android developers over iOS in 2012 http://ping.fm/iSE9Y | Jan 09 14:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Mayor Bloomberg Will Learn How To Write Code In 2012 (TPM): http://bit.ly/x45Zjk | Jan 09 14:49 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Employers to hire more Android developers over iOS in 2012 - Jumping ship | TechEye .::. Size~: 21.15 KB | Jan 09 14:49 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] FSFE calls for an amendment of Slovak Copyright Act #Slovakia #GNUGPL #licensing http://ur1.ca/7d4gw | Jan 09 14:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 2012: The Year of Ubuntu http://is.gd/YB5rob I doubt it, but we shall see. #gnu #linux #ubuntu | Jan 09 14:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: FSFE calls for an amendment of Slovak Copyright Act « Blog of Martin Husovec .::. Size~: 12.65 KB | Jan 09 14:56 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] OZILLA is arguably responsible for restoring competition on the Web browsers front and also for ensuring that Web desig http://ur1.ca/7d4jp | Jan 09 15:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] HE BUSINESS model of Facebook is truly poison on the World Wide Web and the Internet at large. It is the very opposite http://ur1.ca/7d4jr | Jan 09 15:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ith recent milestones reached and a change in publication strategy, I decided to unleash some easy-to-run code along wi http://ur1.ca/7d4jt | Jan 09 15:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] NE common complaint about WordPress is that it requires frequent updates. But the matter of fact is, very few of these http://ur1.ca/7d4jq | Jan 09 15:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] VERY once in a while we hear someone tell the public that, based on anecdotal evidence alone, people leave GNU/Linux fo http://ur1.ca/7d4js | Jan 09 15:01 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Fabio Dumps the Apple iPhone, Chooses Linux/Android Instead .::. Size~: 35.04 KB | Jan 09 15:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] #ThankGNU for Neil Gower -- http://ur1.ca/6v57o Join the !FSF today: http://fsf.org/jfb | Jan 09 15:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] pic of the week: At Karakul Lake, Xinjiang, China - http://bit.ly/yvufEJ glorious (v @farwestchina) | Jan 09 15:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Will Boot to Gecko (B2G) become the OS of 2012 http://is.gd/ESE0uc #mozilla #linux | Jan 09 15:14 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Will Boot to Gecko (B2G) become the OS of 2012 | Unixmen .::. Size~: 54.36 KB | Jan 09 15:14 |
| MinceR | are B2G and Tizen related? | Jan 09 15:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Netflix enters UK video on demand market with tempting deals http://t.co/q8v85NTd via @g http://p.ost.im/p/e5w925 | Jan 09 15:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] OLPC's XO 3.0 tablet hands-on (video) http://is.gd/u9ztL1 #olpc | Jan 09 15:16 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: OLPC's XO 3.0 tablet hands-on (video) -- Engadget .::. Size~: 82.13 KB | Jan 09 15:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Boycott #SOPA !Android app gaining momentum ⤳ morta http://ow.ly/8mziz | Jan 09 15:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] OLPC XO 3.0 Hands On: The $100 Wonder Tablet http://is.gd/GVfbM3 #olpc #linux | Jan 09 15:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Inside Story of India’s $50 Computer Tablet http://is.gd/COawox \ | Jan 09 15:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Desktops for Netbooks – KDE, Unity, or Gnome http://is.gd/GpEWOg #kde #unity #gnome | Jan 09 15:19 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Desktops for Netbooks – KDE, Unity, or Gnome — Low Cost Computing .::. Size~: 28.71 KB | Jan 09 15:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] #ThankGNU for Adam Klotblixt -- http://ur1.ca/6v57o Join the !FSF today: http://fsf.org/jfb | Jan 09 15:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Great Features of KDE Workspaces and Applications Part V - Gwenview http://is.gd/iVLJaS #kde #linux | Jan 09 15:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] New #CC search service by @CCKorea integrates APIs of Flickr, Jamendo, ccMixter, Youtube & more: http://bit.ly/wgDYUq | Jan 09 15:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: CC Korea news in English - Now the Better Way to CCL Contents-Search Service for CC Licensed Contents Renewal .::. Size~: 114.19 KB | Jan 09 15:22 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/156389848222142464 | Jan 09 15:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @fcassia: @schestowitz REMLINS are eating your first character(s) | Jan 09 15:23 |
| schestowitz | Images eat them in my blog | Jan 09 15:23 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/156393495169474561 | Jan 09 15:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @fcassia: @schestowitz Boot2Gecko sounds great if coupled with OpenJDK and apps like http://t.co/DTuCiQ8S | Jan 09 15:24 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #DreamLinux 5 Review http://is.gd/zxackB #gnu #linux | Jan 09 15:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Thanks, $PH for making a whole article free on the web! Minister's salary history: http://ur1.ca/7d541 | Jan 09 15:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Second beta version of Debian Edu / Skolelinux based on Squeeze http://is.gd/g1ds1g #debian #gnu #linux | Jan 09 15:27 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Petter Reinholdtsen: Second beta version of Debian Edu / Skolelinux based on Squeeze .::. Size~: 8.78 KB | Jan 09 15:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 'Sintel The Game' Update http://is.gd/6pAMR4 #sintel | Jan 09 15:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New iodoom3 Project will Improve Doom 3 Game Engine http://is.gd/wLHCQJ #doom #game | Jan 09 15:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Super short review: #Minix 3 http://is.gd/kLJF5n #linux #unix #bsd #microkernel | Jan 09 15:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @nybill: Maybe its evolution. Generic blue avatars evolved from Chimpanzees. | Jan 09 15:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] San Francisco State University signs an MOU with OLPC http://is.gd/WfSv5E #olpc #linux | Jan 09 15:42 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: San Francisco State University signs an MOU with OLPC | One Laptop per Child .::. Size~: 34.33 KB | Jan 09 15:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @schestowitz San Francisco State University signs an MOU with OLPC http://is.gd/WfSv5E #olpc #linux | Jan 09 15:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: San Francisco State University signs an MOU with OLPC | One Laptop per Child .::. Size~: 34.33 KB | Jan 09 15:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] WB, HBO Continue To Suck At Economics; New Policies Encourage Piracy http://goo.gl/Goyk9 | Jan 09 15:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: WB, HBO Continue To Suck At Economics; New Policies Encourage Piracy | Techdirt .::. Size~: 47.89 KB | Jan 09 15:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux Mint signs a partnership with Blue Systems http://is.gd/fp3Jw1 #linuxmint | Jan 09 15:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bufferbloat To Be Fought In Linux 3.3 With BQL http://is.gd/GXFyMW #linux #kernel | Jan 09 15:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] CC January Newsletter: Welcome CC Kazakhstan & CC Rwanda! (+Happy New Year) http://ur1.ca/7d5m1 | Jan 09 15:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] 2012: The Alan Turing Year http://ur1.ca/7d5mo More info: http://is.gd/CILara Help to spread the word #gay #gaykrant #Turing #ATY | Jan 09 15:54 | |
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| iophk | CIAPC and IFPI block part of the EFF for Elisa customers in Finland: | Jan 09 16:00 |
| iophk | "Interestingly there is another domain in the list which does not link to The Pirate Bay at all. | Jan 09 16:00 |
| iophk | Anyone (Elisa customers excluded) clicking piraattilahti.fi will see that the domain is not linked to the world’s most resilient torrent site at all, but digital rights group EFFI – Electronic Frontier Finland. " | Jan 09 16:00 |
| iophk | http://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bay-shows-futility-of-domain-and-dns-blocks-120109/ | Jan 09 16:00 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 9/1/2012: OLPC’s XO 3.0, Boot to Gecko (B2G) http://is.gd/2JSRxm #techrights | Jan 09 16:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 9/1/2012: OLPC’s XO 3.0, Boot to Gecko (B2G) http://is.gd/2JSRxm !techrights | Jan 09 16:12 | |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/88359602 | Jan 09 16:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 09-Jan-12 14:57:44 UTC - Identi.ca: ‘Ubuntu TV’ to be Revealed at #CES http://is.gd/bIafop #google has tried, but it takes marketing muscle. | Jan 09 16:13 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Cool! | Jan 09 16:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Yes, they're pretty awesome, actually. Better than Common Lisp macros, IMHO. | Jan 09 16:16 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4yMvQGE7MY&feature=related | Jan 09 16:16 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/01/07/supersoldier_ants_evolutionary_throwback/ | Jan 09 16:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Boffins hack evolution, create SUPERSOLDIER ANTS • The Register .::. Size~: 26.8 KB | Jan 09 16:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 'The Workspace Strap', A New Experimental Way to Manage Space on Your Virtual Desktops http://is.gd/luy1U2 #gnu #linux | Jan 09 16:26 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 'The Workspace Strap', A New Experimental Way to Manage Space on Your Virtual Desktops ~ Ubuntu Vibes .::. Size~: 159.05 KB | Jan 09 16:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Motorola's Wi-Fi Only Xyboard Tablet Coming Soon! http://is.gd/clJ1mm #android #linux | Jan 09 16:29 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Motorola's Wi-Fi Only Xyboard Tablet Coming Soon! | Droidoid.com .::. Size~: 21.19 KB | Jan 09 16:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Android Powered 3D Goggles To Be Revealed At CES 2012 http://is.gd/gQsoaq #android | Jan 09 16:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Android Powered 3D Goggles To Be Revealed At CES 2012 | Droidoid.com .::. Size~: 21.46 KB | Jan 09 16:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] City, Red Hat tout Raleigh as open-source leader http://is.gd/lJtCIS #redhat | Jan 09 16:37 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: City, Red Hat tout Raleigh as open-source leader - Technology - NewsObserver.com .::. Size~: 129.79 KB | Jan 09 16:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Wind River Solution Accelerators for Android Released http://is.gd/9kp8kF #linux #android @windriver | Jan 09 16:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Wind River Solution Accelerators for Android Released | Muktware .::. Size~: 34.75 KB | Jan 09 16:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why The Verge Is Wrong, Acer Did Not Rip Apple's #hypeCloud http://is.gd/62haG0 | Jan 09 16:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Hackerspace Global Grid to make an Uncensorable internet in space? http://is.gd/aB644Q | Jan 09 16:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #censorship is a big topic now because there are protests. Those in power brainwash the public into thinking protests should be crushed. | Jan 09 16:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Opinions/incitations aside, in 2010 the US crushed (or tried to crush) revelation of the truth too, e.g. #wikileaks | Jan 09 16:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ten factors that make Ubuntu 11.10 a hit http://is.gd/LDgJAo #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Jan 09 16:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ten factors that make Ubuntu 11.10 a hit | Desktop OS | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 61.19 KB | Jan 09 16:51 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Inspired by some really crappy Terms of Service somewhere on-line, I am hereby calling upon #Diaspora community to help http://ur1.ca/7d6q1 | Jan 09 16:52 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.androidguys.com/2012/01/07/sandisk-memory-zone-nice-way-to-keep-track-of-all-your-media-everywhere/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+androidguyscom+%28AndroidGuys%29 | Jan 09 16:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: SanDisk Memory Zone nice way to keep track of all your media everywhereAndroidGuys .::. Size~: 46.1 KB | Jan 09 16:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellog2/@kernellog2] Good and quick kernel configuration creation http://bit.ly/xJrH9U #linux (yes, that's not a KL, but has a similar target audience) | Jan 09 16:57 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Good and quick kernel configuration creation - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 42.07 KB | Jan 09 16:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] From the Las Vegas Strip to your living room: Google TV partners at CES http://is.gd/YZYss0 #linux but not #canonical | Jan 09 16:59 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Official Google TV Blog: From the Las Vegas Strip to your living room: Google TV partners at CES .::. Size~: 75.24 KB | Jan 09 16:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Lenovo impresses at #CES with #Android http://is.gd/KShI0F #linux | Jan 09 17:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Crowdsource the #RPG: #DnD fifth edition building with community input - by @suehle | red.ht/whBDCH | Jan 09 17:01 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Lenovo impresses at CES with AndroidAndroidGuys .::. Size~: 57.03 KB | Jan 09 17:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] no vnc over ssh tunnels up that way? | Jan 09 17:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Enterprise Will Spend $19 Billion on #Apple Hardware in 2012 - http://dthin.gs/xxz7MV disrupting monocultures is good | Jan 09 17:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Sopa and #Pipa: don't let big business break the internet http://gu.com/p/34fjp | Jan 09 17:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @fernandomiguel Ever heard of papercuts? http://ur1.ca/7d78e 6.68mm !android | Jan 09 17:29 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?68100-Microsoft-s-exFAT-Is-Still-Crap-On-Linux&p=246272&posted=1#post246272 | Jan 09 17:43 |
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| schestowitz | MS Tax Era | Jan 09 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: | Jan 09 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | I also believe the Microsoft Gold Partner Tuxera is a GPL violator that has stolen GPL licensed source code for XFS for Linux and made it into a proprietary IFS for Windows (both violate the GPL. I doubt they used the FreeBSD implementation since it is not only crap, it is read only. | Jan 09 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | The only version of XFS with any maturity and completeness that has any source code available is under the GPL, and Tuxera won't answer my email when I ask them where they got "Tuxera XFS" from. I have notified several of the copyright holders on XFS of Tuxera's activity. They can pursue legal remedies if it does turn out to be the case that Tuxera XFS violates the GPL, which is more likely than not. | Jan 09 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | -me | Jan 09 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Alex Elder has told me that he is suspicious that they have stolen GPL licensed XFS code from SGI's git repository, due to the reason I brought up about the GPL version being the only usable and full featured public implementation with any maturity | Jan 09 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | he said that he is unaware of SGI licensing XFS to them, and if they did, it would not cover anything that has been added to XFS for Linux, which has spanned the last 12 years, for which SGI doesn't require copyright assignment | Jan 09 17:47 |
| schestowitz | than | Jan 09 17:47 |
| schestowitz | thanks | Jan 09 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | so if SGI were to license the code, it would be the code from IRIX, not the considerably more advanced version from Linux | Jan 09 17:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] This was done by a slide rule: http://ur1.ca/7d7ob | Jan 09 17:47 | |
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| DaemonFC | the version from IRIX hasn't seen any major development since around 2000 | Jan 09 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | IRIX itself has been in End Of Life extended support since 2006 | Jan 09 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | which is due to end within the next couple of years | Jan 09 17:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ICE Propaganda Film Pats Itself On The Back For #Censoring The Web; Promises Much More To Come - http://bit.ly/xRal3B honest, at least | Jan 09 17:49 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp4GmWg2xvo&feature=related | Jan 09 17:50 |
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| DaemonFC | an IFS for Windows implementing XFS out of GPL licensed source code would be a GPL violation on two fronts | Jan 09 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | 1. Since it is under a proprietary license from Tuxera, which is not allowed under the GPL. | Jan 09 17:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Use of Brands In Video Games Is Free Speech—EA Lawsuit - http://bit.ly/zAM4dI fascinating | Jan 09 17:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Nostalgia Mode: ON http://ur1.ca/7aupu | Jan 09 17:51 | |
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| DaemonFC | 2. When added as an IFS, it runs inside the Windows kernel, which violates the linking requirements of the GPL, unless Microsoft was to relicense Windows under the GPL | Jan 09 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 09 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft sits back and lets Tuxera violate the GPL on their behalf | Jan 09 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | that way they can claim compatibility with Linux file systems without being sued for it | Jan 09 17:52 |
| DaemonFC | if it blows up on anyone, it will be Tuxera | Jan 09 17:52 |
| iophk | That's usual. They mostly work through proxies. | Jan 09 17:52 |
| schestowitz | Gives them GPL FUD later | Jan 09 17:52 |
| DaemonFC | (which also claims to have Ext2/3/4 implementations for Windows) | Jan 09 17:52 |
| schestowitz | They get device makers stuck with MS tax and also GPL violation | Jan 09 17:52 |
| DaemonFC | the only Ext2 IFS for Windows which is proprietary freeware and doesn't violate the GPL.... | Jan 09 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | is a from scratch implementation that used no GPL source code | Jan 09 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | which was written by a college student as part of a thesis | Jan 09 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | there has never been any direct support of Ext4 on Windows that Tuxera didn't provide | Jan 09 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | the Ext2 IFS freeware from that guy wouldn't even mount Ext4 without extents | Jan 09 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | because it requires a 128 byte inode size | Jan 09 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | which doesn't even allow it to mount a lot of Ext3 file systems | Jan 09 17:55 |
| DaemonFC | since many Ext3 file systems were created with 256 byte inodes to ease the transition to Ext4 | Jan 09 17:55 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 09 17:55 |
| DaemonFC | it will only mount Ext3, as Ext2, and it will fail if the Ext3 file system was created since around 2006-2007 | Jan 09 17:56 |
| DaemonFC | he never mentioned that part | Jan 09 17:56 |
| DaemonFC | because the last time he updated his site was before mkfs.ext3 started doing that | Jan 09 17:56 |
| DaemonFC | around the same time, OpenSuse wrote a patch for GRUB Legacy to handle 256 byte inodes | Jan 09 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | otherwise GRUB Legacy will fail to boot such a file system | Jan 09 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | and may even manage to corrupt it by trying | Jan 09 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 09 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | Mandriva copied the patch to their Grub Legacy and so did Fedora, and for a while Debian and Ubuntu | Jan 09 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | now they're all starting to just use Grub2 | Jan 09 17:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #TPP's Copyright Term Extension Would Keep Some #Canada's Top Authors Out of Public Domain For Decades - http://bit.ly/zNX36F pure theft | Jan 09 17:59 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Jan 09 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | one of the reasons I couldn't stand GRUB Legacy was because GNU stopped maintaining it or accepting patches for it, and went on to develop GRUB 2, leaving everyone not using LILO or SYSLINUX to suffer GRUB Legacy with a set of a few hundred out of tree patches that distros picked and choosed from | Jan 09 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | and snatched from each other selectively | Jan 09 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | so under the same conditions that booted one distribution X, Distribution Y would fail to boot, and Distribution Z would corrupt the boot partition as well | Jan 09 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 09 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | for a while I started clobbering GRUB on Ubuntu as soon as it installed | Jan 09 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | and replacing it with LILO | Jan 09 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | but with GRUB 2 maturing, that's no longer a serious problem | Jan 09 18:02 |
| DaemonFC | but given the history of the GNU upstream, it could happen again if SOMEONE there decides GRUB2 isn't PERFECT and FLAWLESS and decides to trash it and start GRUB3 | Jan 09 18:02 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 09 18:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Are Electronic Health Records safe? - http://oreil.ly/wjt7X9 no; clever post | Jan 09 18:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: Many Gov-General award winning books - top fiction and history - all blocked for decades by term extension. http://t.co/UlW ... | Jan 09 18:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: Gov consultation on TPP runs until February 14th. Email comments to consultations[at]http://t.co/cTdY4VDA. http://t.co/UlWGY8zY | Jan 09 18:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: Canadian authors blocked until 2033 by term extension include McLuhan, Creighton, Roy, Aquin, and Klein http://t.co/UlWGY8zY | Jan 09 18:02 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: you're like motor mouth | Jan 09 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | I think the way that GNU handled the GRUB Legacy situation was petty | Jan 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | Anyway, I'll link to it later | Jan 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | I already had an article about this issue coming | Jan 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | Tuxera again | Jan 09 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | they should have at least maintained the patches against it while GRUB2 was coming along | Jan 09 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | the important ones at the least | Jan 09 18:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: TPP's Copyright Term Extension Would Keep Some Canada's Top Authors Out of Public Domain For Decades http://t.co/UlWGY8zY | Jan 09 18:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Jan 09 18:04 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Tuxera is disgusting. On one hand, they will SELL you the rights to use Microsoft's file systems on Linux, while they turn around and produce what appears to be GPL violating ports of Linux file systems for Windows. | Jan 09 18:04 |
| DaemonFC | They're basically licensing patents while they themselves violate copyright | Jan 09 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | it's not exactly giving them the "moral high ground" if you ever could expect such a thing from a patent licensing troll | Jan 09 18:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] FSFE calls for an amendment of Slovak Copyright Act - http://bit.ly/At6Z3Z f#freesw & #cc licenses are considered to be void currently #sk | Jan 09 18:06 | |
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| DaemonFC | The entire reason they will sell you patents is because they claim you should "respect intellectual property" which is of course their confusing umbrella term for copyright, patent, and trademark laws | Jan 09 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | but using their terminology, they are not respecting the "IP" of the Linux kernel developers | Jan 09 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | the only way they could get a GPL exception for XFS would be to buy a GPL exception from SGI/Rackable Systems, as well as every person that has contributed to it while it was in Linux | Jan 09 18:10 |
| DaemonFC | which is, dozens of individuals | Jan 09 18:10 |
| DaemonFC | unless all they wanted was a poorly performing 12 year stale clone of SGI's IRIX XFS, which they would still have to negotiate over with SGI/Rackable | Jan 09 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | then that would basically prevent them from being able to honestly say it is better, faster, or more reliable than XFS for Linux | Jan 09 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | and still none of that explains Ext2/3/4 for Windows | Jan 09 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The interesting thing is that to get all the features of Ext and XFS as well as other Linux file systems...... | Jan 09 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | Tuxera would also need to clone the Linux VFS | Jan 09 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | and implement that in the Windows kernel as well | Jan 09 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | it all just depends on what they want to claim it is compatible with | Jan 09 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure businesses that want to access their Linux file systems on Windows would be interested in things implemented through the VFS layer, which not only includes things like ecryptfs and transparent compression, but also things like the journal/logging mechanism that the file systems share | Jan 09 18:16 |
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| DaemonFC | you wouldn't need to implement the Linux-style filesystem cache | Jan 09 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | as an IFS module, Windows would allow you access to the same caching methods that NTFS gets | Jan 09 18:17 |
| DaemonFC | there's a pleasant thought, right? :) | Jan 09 18:17 |
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| DaemonFC | if you write a file system for Windows, you still don't know how it all works | Jan 09 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | even if you have the source code | Jan 09 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | because a lot of the features your file system has depend on proprietary bits of the Windows kernel | Jan 09 18:18 |
| schestowitz | I'm sure MS will work to make it be compatible :-) | Jan 09 18:23 |
| schestowitz | Or quite the opposite | Jan 09 18:23 |
| schestowitz | as history shows | Jan 09 18:23 |
| schestowitz | unless it's an MS cash cow like Tuxera's | Jan 09 18:23 |
| schestowitz | the only MS-'approved' Linux FS | Jan 09 18:23 |
| schestowitz | they use that to poison Android too now | Jan 09 18:23 |
| iophk | And MS-'approved' software patent licenses. | Jan 09 18:24 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft owns Linux | Jan 09 18:24 |
| schestowitz | And some pesudoFOSS trolls will soon call MS the biggest open source company | Jan 09 18:25 |
| schestowitz | Or biggest Linux distributor | Jan 09 18:25 |
| schestowitz | EEE | Jan 09 18:25 |
| schestowitz | !google techdirt microsoft android licensing | Jan 09 18:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Barnes & Noble Claims That Microsoft Patent Shakedown ... - Techdirt | http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111109/02574116691/barnes-noble-claims-that-microsoft-patent-shakedown-over-android-is-antitrust-violation.shtml | Jan 09 18:25 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Microsoft-Samsung Licensing Deal Tells Us Nothing ... - Techdirt | http://www.techdirt.com/blog/wireless/articles/20110930/09191916150/microsoft-samsung-licensing-deal-tells-us-nothing-about-facts-just-about-fud.shtml | Jan 09 18:25 |
| DaemonFC | http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?68100-Microsoft-s-exFAT-Is-Still-Crap-On-Linux&p=246278#post246278 | Jan 09 18:29 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Wireless LAN SD Standard aims to make any SD card a wifi card http://nd.gd/075 @nj3ma @kelzOKO @dennisMungai @fredmanglis @flintsoul @dammim | Jan 09 18:29 | |
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| DaemonFC | Even more suspicious would be Tuxera Ext2/3/4. Something just doesn't seem kosher about this. There has been a lot of effort to implement these file systems on Linux, yet a small proprietary software company with only a few programmers independently implements all this stuff? I am kind of not buying that. I'd say it is "Very Likely" that Tuxera is a GPL violator that is using stolen source code. Again, it would require proof, that barring a | Jan 09 18:29 |
| DaemonFC | lawsuit from one of the copyright holders on those file systems or the VFS layer for Linux (which Tuxera would also need a Windows port of) which would compel Tuxera to cooperate and admit where the source code came from. | Jan 09 18:29 |
| DaemonFC | The way a lot of GPL violators get away with it is that the copyright holders either don't care enough to do anything about it, or are not independently wealthy enough to take the suspected violator to court. | Jan 09 18:29 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft usually doesn't do anything at all about individual software "pirates". | Jan 09 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | They usually target their efforts on companies that are selling hundreds or thousands of copies of Windows without paying them. | Jan 09 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | if you sue an individual who broke copyright law for personal non-profit use, RIAA-style, they just file bankruptcy and you get nothing | Jan 09 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft goes after the ones that they can get criminal sanctions against AND big bucks from | Jan 09 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | while at the same time, trying to change the laws in the US to make producing one unlicensed copy for personal use a crime instead of a civil offense | Jan 09 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | it takes about a thousand outraged Americans to counter every lobbyist dollar that goes into our legislative system | Jan 09 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | so the rich business criminals almost always get what they want | Jan 09 18:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] #OLPC Xo 3.0 hands-on at #CES ur1.ca/7d8q1 | Jan 09 18:37 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I got a reply from that guy that has that "GUI gallery" | Jan 09 18:38 |
| DaemonFC | regarding my email about the mistakes on his Linux Mint 12 page | Jan 09 18:38 |
| DaemonFC | "I'll see if I can straighten that all out when I get a chance. " | Jan 09 18:38 |
| DaemonFC | "Anyway, Thanks for letting me know! (I don't doubt there are plenty of | Jan 09 18:38 |
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| DaemonFC | mistakes on my site, I wish more people would tell me when they see one)" | Jan 09 18:38 |
| schestowitz | Fair enough | Jan 09 18:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] New Video: Julian #Assange on the New York Times (part 9 – Personal Attacks and Institutional Differences) http://t.co/A4B5BxXx #wikileaks | Jan 09 18:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] My thoughts on #MPL 2.0 http://ur1.ca/7d8u8 | Jan 09 18:42 | |
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| DaemonFC | I try to point out when someone has made mistakes in an article I am reading | Jan 09 18:43 |
| DaemonFC | it might save everyone else who sees the page from getting the wrong impression about what is being discussed | Jan 09 18:43 |
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| DaemonFC | I hope that for the sake of sanity, that MATE pans out | Jan 09 18:44 |
| DaemonFC | maybe even attracting GNOME developers that didn't quite agree with the GNOME 3 disaster | Jan 09 18:45 |
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| DaemonFC | I do think that GNOME 3 is a perfect illustration of Jamie Zawinski's Cascade of Attention Deficit Teenagers joke | Jan 09 18:46 |
| Kuifje111 | hi all | Jan 09 18:46 |
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| DaemonFC | when a piece of software is basically done, and all of the "fun" stuff is out of the way, and all that is really left is hunting down and killing bugs which is "not fun", open source projects tend to scrap the entire thing and start over | Jan 09 18:47 |
| DaemonFC | instead of fixing the bugs in what they already had | Jan 09 18:47 |
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| DaemonFC | This makes the second time that GNOME had a desktop that was complete that could have just been polished some more, and instead they threw the entire thing out, closed all open bug reports, and started over | Jan 09 18:48 |
| durpuhrp | http://haax.in | Jan 09 18:48 |
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| DaemonFC | iophk: Ban the fucktard please | Jan 09 18:49 |
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| cubezzz | ban who? | Jan 09 18:49 |
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| iophk | cubezzz: ban LinsuxFTW | Jan 09 18:50 |
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| gnufreex | what's this thing? | Jan 09 18:50 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] my understanding was that they are not legally binding, and hence useless | Jan 09 18:51 | |
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| DaemonFC | HELLO? | Jan 09 18:51 |
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| *cubezzz sets ban on *!*b0t@216.105.40.* | Jan 09 18:51 | |
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| *cubezzz has kicked TechrightsBot-tr from #techrights (TechrightsBot-tr) | Jan 09 18:51 | |
| DaemonFC | CAM SOMEONE OP ME IF THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING? | Jan 09 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | thank you | Jan 09 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 09 18:51 |
| *ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitz | Jan 09 18:51 | |
| schestowitz | too late for me | Jan 09 18:51 |
| cubezzz | who was doing it? | Jan 09 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | btw, the spammer's IP address is 83.99.212.106 | Jan 09 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | banning 83.99.212.* would seem appropriate | Jan 09 18:52 |
| *schestowitz sets ban on Shadowww!*@* | Jan 09 18:52 | |
| *schestowitz has kicked Shadowww from #techrights (User term) | Jan 09 18:52 | |
| *iophk sets ban on durpuhrp!*@* | Jan 09 18:52 | |
| cubezzz | ah | Jan 09 18:52 |
| *schestowitz sets ban on ChrisTX!*@* | Jan 09 18:52 | |
| *schestowitz has kicked ChrisTX from #techrights (User term) | Jan 09 18:52 | |
| cubezzz | exciting :) | Jan 09 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | it will keep him away even if he unplugs his DSL modem to go fishing for a new IP address | Jan 09 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | should, anyway | Jan 09 18:52 |
| cubezzz | who is ChrisTX? | Jan 09 18:52 |
| schestowitz | it's the kids from that anti-Linux site again | Jan 09 18:53 |
| schestowitz | just ignore it, move on | Jan 09 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | They're not anti-Linux, they just loves them some Sweaty Steve | Jan 09 18:53 |
| iophk | I couldn't get the syntax right for the ban. | Jan 09 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | they want to get Sweaty with Sweaty Steve | Jan 09 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 09 18:53 |
| *schestowitz sets ban on Kuifje111!*@* | Jan 09 18:53 | |
| koolhead17 | schestowitz around? | Jan 09 18:53 |
| *schestowitz has kicked Kuifje111 from #techrights (User term) | Jan 09 18:53 | |
| schestowitz | [18:45] <DaemonFC> maybe even attracting GNOME developers that didn't quite agree with the GNOME 3 disaster | Jan 09 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | banning user names or nicks is not effective | Jan 09 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | long term | Jan 09 18:54 |
| schestowitz | Did you use gnome3? | Jan 09 18:54 |
| schestowitz | I haven't yet | Jan 09 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: yes, even GNOME 3.2 | Jan 09 18:54 |
| koolhead17 | schestowitz sir;-) | Jan 09 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | doesn't cut it | Jan 09 18:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] RT @privacyactivism FTC Seeks Public Comment on Facial Recognition Technology https://eff.org/r.3N7 via #Privacy Lives | Jan 09 18:54 | |
| DaemonFC | still moving in the wrong direction | Jan 09 18:54 |
| cubezzz | Latvian IP address | Jan 09 18:54 |
| schestowitz | koolhead17: hey | Jan 09 18:54 |
| schestowitz | what's up? | Jan 09 18:54 |
| *masic (johndoe@2001:470:e056:20:2::1) has joined #techrights | Jan 09 18:54 | |
| DaemonFC | it's more important to integrate Google and Facebook than to implement a usable desktop environment for the user | Jan 09 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | apparently | Jan 09 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | ;) | Jan 09 18:54 |
| koolhead17 | am great!! can i add you as rerence am sending CV sumwer | Jan 09 18:54 |
| koolhead17 | :P | Jan 09 18:54 |
| *schestowitz sets ban on masic!*@* | Jan 09 18:55 | |
| *schestowitz has kicked masic from #techrights (User term) | Jan 09 18:55 | |
| koolhead17 | DaemonFC: hola | Jan 09 18:55 |
| schestowitz | seen him before | Jan 09 18:55 |
| koolhead17 | schestowitz why are u kicking folks today | Jan 09 18:55 |
| koolhead17 | :P | Jan 09 18:55 |
| schestowitz | they vandalised the channel, they're anti-Linux trolls | Jan 09 18:56 |
| cubezzz | haven't seen that in a while | Jan 09 18:56 |
| schestowitz | they should be banned from Freenode as a whole for TOS violations | Jan 09 18:56 |
| cubezzz | get someone to k-line them | Jan 09 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | I am not sold on "cloud computing" and to make "free software" that is just effectively a front end to proprietary backends on some remote server shouldn't be a priority for a free software project | Jan 09 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | it's like saying you own the cow but you still have to ask for the milk | Jan 09 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | if you want freedom to use your computer and your data, then the vast majority of the device should be oriented to the local system | Jan 09 18:58 |
| DaemonFC | not to a server off in never never land | Jan 09 18:58 |
| DaemonFC | it's true that a web browser or an email client or a remote file server have aspects of what has been "retconned" into the term "cloud computing" | Jan 09 18:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Top German cop uses spyware on daughter, gets hacked in retaliation - http://bit.ly/yNjBCV those that live by the hack, etc etc | Jan 09 18:59 | |
| DaemonFC | but it has never exactly been a state secret on how to make your own | Jan 09 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | server, site, storage, etc | Jan 09 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | when you use Amazon or an Amazon "cloud" calling itself Ubuntu One, or some other such thing, you're giving away your freedom | Jan 09 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | to a black box | Jan 09 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | with a front end that is only technically free software | Jan 09 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | it is free software with the sole purpose of letting you give away your freedom | Jan 09 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | and GNOME 3 is doing this now as well | Jan 09 19:01 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: it's worse than a black bix | Jan 09 19:01 |
| schestowitz | because a box you can at least hold | Jan 09 19:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] that's my guess; yes, could have been clearer | Jan 09 19:01 | |
| *iophk sets mode +r #techrights | Jan 09 19:01 | |
| *iophk sets mode +p #techrights | Jan 09 19:01 | |
| *msb_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Jan 09 19:01 | |
| DaemonFC | KDE has given "owncloud" some semi-official recognition | Jan 09 19:01 |
| DaemonFC | there's nothing wrong with using it to create your own private "cloud" running on hardware you own and control | Jan 09 19:02 |
| *iophk has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | Jan 09 19:02 | |
| *iophk (~unknown@unaffiliated/iophk) has joined #techrights | Jan 09 19:02 | |
| *ChanServ gives channel operator status to iophk | Jan 09 19:02 | |
| DaemonFC | there's nothing more wrong about that than creating any other kind of private network for yourself | Jan 09 19:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Israel Basically Threatens to Assassinate Teen Hacker Who Leaked Israelis' Credit Cards - http://gaw.kr/yfNTkD the "terrorist" meme again | Jan 09 19:02 | |
| *iophk sets ban on *!durpuhrp@* | Jan 09 19:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Tizen releases some code http://ur1.ca/7d99f | Jan 09 19:04 | |
| schestowitz | LOL | Jan 09 19:04 |
| schestowitz | shooting the "terrorirts" | Jan 09 19:04 |
| schestowitz | Like Assange | Jan 09 19:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Hardware makers ally with BitTorrent for European, Asian invasions - http://bit.ly/ySqaEE great news for the BitTorrent "brand" | Jan 09 19:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @glynmoody: Israel Basically Threatens to Assassinate Teen Hacker Who Leaked Israelis' Credit Cards http://gaw.kr/yfNTkD | Jan 09 19:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @glynmoody: Top German cop uses spyware on daughter, gets hacked in retaliation - http://bit.ly/yNjBCV those that live by the hack, etc | Jan 09 19:06 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: People imply that when you value your privacy, that you're either a criminal or a control freak | Jan 09 19:08 |
| DaemonFC | what do you think has put this in the minds of so many people? | Jan 09 19:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] Possibly academic question: do 1.10(a) and 1.4 together really limit copyleft to existing files? | Jan 09 19:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] (I realize I had the chance to ask this when it was meaningful to.) | Jan 09 19:09 | |
| DaemonFC | https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/veto-sopa-bill-and-any-other-future-bills-threaten-diminish-free-flow-information/g3W1BscR | Jan 09 19:10 |
| DaemonFC | I signed that | Jan 09 19:10 |
| DaemonFC | for whatever good it does | Jan 09 19:10 |
| DaemonFC | they claim anything that gets more than 25,000 signatures will get some kind of official reply | Jan 09 19:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] Mitt Romney, free software candidate: http://ur1.ca/7d9ej | Jan 09 19:11 | |
| DaemonFC | it's good to watch them twist everything around while trying to explain some indefensible position | Jan 09 19:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Pirate Bay Shows Futility of Domain and DNS Blocks - http://bit.ly/zIgSZr but some people never learn #censorship | Jan 09 19:12 | |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: i wasn't near irc | Jan 09 19:14 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: I caught up with my district's state senator | Jan 09 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | in person | Jan 09 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | talked to him for about 5 minutes | Jan 09 19:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] RT @araceletorres The Great Features of KDE Workspaces and Applications Part V - Gwenview - http://ur1.ca/7cre8 | Jan 09 19:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Monday http://ur1.ca/7d9hm | Jan 09 19:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @copiesofcopies You had the chance to ask this when it was meaningful to! | Jan 09 19:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] ♻ @fsfe: FSFE calls for an amendment of Slovak Copyright Act #Slovakia #GNUGPL #licensing http://ur1.ca/7d4gw !fs | Jan 09 19:16 | |
| DaemonFC | I asked that he introduce a bill proposing that use of Indiana state resources to assist the Federal government in enforcing SOPA be made illegal | Jan 09 19:16 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 09 19:16 |
| DaemonFC | it wouldn't have much of an effect on the enforcement of SOPA by the Federal government, but it is as much as a state law can do about it | Jan 09 19:17 |
| *schestowitz removes ban on *!*b0t@216.105.40.* | Jan 09 19:17 | |
| DaemonFC | it's stronger than passing a resolution condemning SOPA | Jan 09 19:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] @fontana I should have thought of that. | Jan 09 19:17 | |
| DaemonFC | which was what he has suggested doing | Jan 09 19:17 |
| DaemonFC | so something like that might end up surfacing in the Indiana state senate if and when SOPA passes | Jan 09 19:18 |
| DaemonFC | if nothing else, it would express our sense of disgust and tell the feds that we will have no part of it | Jan 09 19:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] #WolframAlpha is really starting to be useful - now, if only they could answer this simple question! ur1.ca/7d9jd | Jan 09 19:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] okay, this is where #WolframAlpha surprised me, positively: ur1.ca/7d9lj :) | Jan 09 19:21 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Wasn't Wolfram Alpha on your shit list? | Jan 09 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 09 19:21 |
| schestowitz | I never use it | Jan 09 19:21 |
| schestowitz | I heard bad things about Wolfram, too | Jan 09 19:21 |
| iophk | MS starved them in the news. | Jan 09 19:21 |
| iophk | Then got them to sell out after months of not getting any press. | Jan 09 19:22 |
| MinceR | how did they starve them? | Jan 09 19:22 |
| iophk | No news coverage to speak of but lots of M$ coverage instead. | Jan 09 19:22 |
| MinceR | but how did they inhibit news coverage (outside m$nbc anyway) | Jan 09 19:22 |
| iophk | Usual churn. | Jan 09 19:23 |
| iophk | Lots of MS articles | Jan 09 19:23 |
| DaemonFC | people still laugh at me when I tell them I avoid wifi as much at possible | Jan 09 19:23 |
| MinceR | ic | Jan 09 19:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Two things are possible: first, that you registered from an IP address that a spammer registered from. When a spammer is silenced, .. | Jan 09 19:24 | |
| DaemonFC | I have ethernet cable stapled up to the ceiling trim from my router going to every room in my house | Jan 09 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 09 19:24 |
| iophk | Anyway, Wolfram appears all but dead now. | Jan 09 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | wifi can be some nasty shit and if you can avoid it, you're better off | Jan 09 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | I only have my wifi on when I am using my tablet | Jan 09 19:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] ...all other accounts that registered from that IP address are also silenced. I think this is unlikely, though. | Jan 09 19:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] The other thing is that I've got some really aggressive filters enabled on Identi.ca due to the flooding attacks just before Christmas. | Jan 09 19:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Posts that match a particular pattern are not only prevented from being posted, but the posting user is blocked. | Jan 09 19:26 | |
| DaemonFC | it's less reliable and it is a potential privacy hazard | Jan 09 19:26 |
| prurigro | hey all | Jan 09 19:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] A third possibility is that an inexperienced mod-helper silenced you. I think that's unlikely, though. | Jan 09 19:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] @evan nice :D | Jan 09 19:27 | |
| DaemonFC | I need to vacuum :P | Jan 09 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | I blew all the dust and crap out of my PC earlier | Jan 09 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | and it's all over the place now | Jan 09 19:28 |
| *schestowitz sets mode -p #techrights | Jan 09 19:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The Spanish judge who needs our support http://t.co/WTtAwvb5 | Jan 09 19:31 | |
| *schestowitz sets mode -r #techrights | Jan 09 19:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @openattitude: Leaked Memo Says Apple, Nokia & RIM Provide Backdoor To Governments | Slashdot http://ur1.ca/7c8eh /cc @RamanusAsango | Jan 09 19:41 | |
| scientes | who said my name? | Jan 09 19:41 |
| schestowitz | his momma | Jan 09 19:41 |
| MinceR | it was in the title of the trolls' favorite site to spam the URL of | Jan 09 19:42 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.53 | Jan 09 19:44 |
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| schestowitz | I improved the bot's identity while it was offline | Jan 09 19:44 |
| iophk | What's new with it? | Jan 09 19:44 |
| schestowitz | some subtle things | Jan 09 19:45 |
| schestowitz | don't give it away, it would help the trolls | Jan 09 19:45 |
| iophk | Ok. | Jan 09 19:45 |
| schestowitz | Let's just call it.., "proprietary extensions" | Jan 09 19:45 |
| scientes | to what schestowitz ? | Jan 09 19:47 |
| scientes | I saw nginx Inc was going to be selling proprietary extentions | Jan 09 19:47 |
| iophk | "…and for the first proprietary extensions based on NGINX as well." | Jan 09 19:49 |
| iophk | http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/comment/78827 | Jan 09 19:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Interview with Igor Sysoev, author of Apache's competitor NGINX .::. Size~: 57.62 KB | Jan 09 19:49 |
| scientes | is that what we were talking about? | Jan 09 19:50 |
| scientes | as soon as i saw that i installed lighttpd and uninstalled nginx | Jan 09 19:50 |
| scientes | but then I realized I wanted passenger, so installing nginx again..... | Jan 09 19:50 |
| scientes | (something new) | Jan 09 19:50 |
| iophk | Also lighttpd does not do SSI properly, Noexec is not an option. | Jan 09 19:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is jpope from micro.jpope.org with 86 dents! | Jan 09 19:51 | |
| iophk | nginx is now #2, after Apache | Jan 09 19:51 |
| scientes | there is also cherokee | Jan 09 19:51 |
| scientes | I found fastcgi with nginx a pain | Jan 09 19:52 |
| scientes | while in lighttpd it "just works"(tm) | Jan 09 19:52 |
| iophk | But Cherokee is not ranked in Netcraft. nginx is. | Jan 09 19:52 |
| scientes | well, I was just talking about high-speed http servers with good features | Jan 09 19:53 |
| schestowitz | [19:47] <scientes> to what schestowitz ? | Jan 09 19:53 |
| scientes | nginx, i've now realized (assumed) | Jan 09 19:53 |
| schestowitz | Tricks to handle the trolls.. can't reveal them as it would defeat the purpose | Jan 09 19:53 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 09 19:53 |
| scientes | lighttpd really is a good web server (considering that i am not running a massive web site, havn't really pushed any web server to limits) | Jan 09 19:54 |
| scientes | easy to configure--straight forward, i found nginx config less easy | Jan 09 19:55 |
| scientes | but i am going to try it cause i want passenger | Jan 09 19:55 |
| iophk | Take a look at January 2012 | Jan 09 20:02 |
| iophk | http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2012/01/03/january-2012-web-server-survey.html#more-5297 | Jan 09 20:02 |
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| DaemonFC | nginx is open core | Jan 09 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | not open source | Jan 09 20:05 |
| iophk | Used to be open source | Jan 09 20:05 |
| iophk | Is it time to cross it off the list already? | Jan 09 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, they do that until people get used to using it and don't want to use anything else | Jan 09 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | then once you depend on it, the honeymoon is over | Jan 09 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | it goes under a proprietary or open core license | Jan 09 20:06 |
| iophk | Feels like a bait-and-switch now. | Jan 09 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | exactly | Jan 09 20:07 |
| iophk | WURFL was just in the news for doing something along similar lines. | Jan 09 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | what will end up happening is that you're have the basic NGINX that is open source | Jan 09 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | and a bunch of proprietary extensions you have to pay for | Jan 09 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | the first such example is a CDN and media streaming accelerator | Jan 09 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | there's more to come | Jan 09 20:08 |
| iophk | So the core will shrink. | Jan 09 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | in comparison to the "full version" | Jan 09 20:09 |
| iophk | That was a rather cheap to build up a community and then go proprietary once big enough. | Jan 09 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | and then you'll say "This is really nice, but it can't do......something" | Jan 09 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | and that something is a proprietary extension that costs a boatload of money | Jan 09 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | unless you want to use expensive proprietary software somewhere down the line when you get pinched by the limitations of the open source version of NGINX, you will use Apache or something | Jan 09 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | [15:06] <dchinner> bpm: you mean their claim that their XFs is 100% faster than the open source "baseline"? | Jan 09 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | [15:07] <sandeen> maybe by baseline they mean ext2? :) | Jan 09 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | [15:07] <bpm> dchinner, that's awesome! | Jan 09 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | [15:08] <dchinner> you whoul dcheck out this page "Why choose Tuxera?" | Jan 09 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | [15:08] <dchinner> http://www.tuxera.com/buy/oem-and-volume-licensin | Jan 09 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | [15:08] <dchinner> "You utilize a proprietary platform and cannot use GPL licensed code" | Jan 09 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | [15:09] <sandeen> wow | Jan 09 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | [15:10] <bpm> lol | Jan 09 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | [15:11] <DaemonFC> let us violate the GPL for you and sell it to you | Jan 09 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | [15:11] <DaemonFC> with ZOMGSUPPORT | Jan 09 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | [15:11] <DaemonFC> :) | Jan 09 20:12 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Responsible capitalism is #Labour's agenda http://gu.com/p/34hee playing the opposition template card "opportunism" to a T | Jan 09 20:14 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Responsible capitalism is Labour's agenda | Stewart Wood | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 256.17 KB | Jan 09 20:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] anyone gullible enough to fall for any opposition's newfound ethics deserve to be hoodwinked #politics - they didn't care in office | Jan 09 20:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The Future of !Firefox !Security http://ping.fm/AkPHO | Jan 09 20:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ask yourself how many rich corps funnel cash to Labour's election campaigns, then you see the depth of this responsible capitalism claim | Jan 09 20:17 | |
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| *koolhead17 is now known as koolhead17|zzZZ | Jan 09 20:18 | |
| iophk | The "OEM Licensing and Tuxera" page seems to promise a lot, too much to expect from a small private company with limited staff. seems to correspond to a lot of FOSS tools. | Jan 09 20:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Pls RT: @senatorreid @chuckschumer @mcconnellpress Stand with the Internet and kill #PIPA before it hurts our economy https://eff.org/r.N96 | Jan 09 20:19 | |
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| iophk | There is a bit of disinformation, "You utilize a proprietary platform and cannot use GPL licensed code" | Jan 09 20:19 |
| iophk | They are for sure on the anti-FOSS and pro-swpatent bandwagon. | Jan 09 20:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I was waiting for a, "TV for Human Beings" headline for !Ubuntu TV and ZDNet obliged http://ping.fm/amwQB | Jan 09 20:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Oracle Has Yet To Clarify Solaris 11 Kernel Source — "leaked onto the Internet via Torrent sites" http://ping.fm/WHzhb | Jan 09 20:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] I believe having options is a good thing but I still do not trust that we can maintain a nuclear facility safely | Jan 09 20:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @x11r5 You mean the beginning of the topic i was running sid and compiling my own mind. #Magic | Jan 09 20:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Canonical Demonstrates Ubuntu TV (PCWorld): http://bit.ly/z2CQwY | Jan 09 20:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Google Body goes #opensource - http://bit.ly/zGNX32 nice | Jan 09 20:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The story of the Apollo 11 moon landing, as told through data (video) - http://bit.ly/A8PlxZ clever #visualisation | Jan 09 20:47 | |
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| _Goblin | Moon landings.... are not they all supposed to be staged????? ;) ......There's "really good" evidence out there saying that they were...... | Jan 09 20:55 |
| _Goblin | (I hope sarcasm shows through on that comment) | Jan 09 20:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Australia: Of Wales & WikiLeaks https://t.co/do0AZQ3b | Jan 09 21:01 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Jan 09 21:01 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: it gets some TV shows high ratinghs | Jan 09 21:04 |
| _Goblin | what moon landing conspiracy? | Jan 09 21:05 |
| _Goblin | I think the planet earth is a conspiracy....the satelite images have lied to us....we are actually on a flat plane suspended on the back of 4 giant elephants which in turn stand on the back of a giant turtle.....anyone who thinks me wrong has been sucked in and brainwashed by the government..... ;) | Jan 09 21:06 |
| MinceR | but what is the turtle standing on? | Jan 09 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | it is unfortunate that VLC has not only taken a step in the wrong direction (for the purposes of software freedom, though they absolutely have the right to license their code however they want), by not only moving from the GPL to the LGPL, but also to LGPL 2.1 instead of LGPL 3 | Jan 09 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | with the LGPL 3, they still would have given proprietary software and software under a GPL incompatible license the right to link to the VLC core, but it would have also clarified a number of issues, including what happens if you violate the license | Jan 09 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | and if Microsoft or Apple or some other patent troll distributed VLC, they would give their users the rights to use whatever patents they held that VLC otherwise infringes upon | Jan 09 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | VLC had the chance to grant their users a better license, more guarantees of freedom, and additional protection from patent trolls, and instead they took a step away from that | Jan 09 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | -me | Jan 09 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | someone asked about the VLC core being relicensed | Jan 09 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | [16:19] <nhm> Think anyone will take them to task for their XFS stuff? | Jan 09 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | [16:19] <DaemonFC> but it's a better idea to not depend on Microsoft or anything from them | Jan 09 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | [16:20] <DaemonFC> nhm: That's sort of why I nudged a few people in here | Jan 09 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | [16:20] <DaemonFC> I'm sure that quite a few of them hold the copyrights to various chunks of XFS | Jan 09 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | [16:20] <dchinner> nhm: it depends what they are doing with XFS - stuff on a website is often wrong or misleading | Jan 09 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | [16:20] <nhm> dchinner: fair enough | Jan 09 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | [16:21] <dchinner> because it's been passed through a marketing filter | Jan 09 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | [16:21] <nhm> dchinner: though you could still take them to task for that. ;) | Jan 09 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | [16:22] <DaemonFC> well, it depends on how stupid they are willing to be, I mean, how "cooperative" they are (in incriminating themselves) if they are indeed up to no good | Jan 09 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | [16:22] <DaemonFC> it might be difficult to prove they've actually done anything wrong short of suing them and getting a court order for them to turn over the evidence | Jan 09 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | from #xfs | Jan 09 21:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] OK, those look fixed now. | Jan 09 21:26 | |
| DaemonFC | [16:25] <dchinner> Heh - just point the SGI nazgul at the unlicensed use of the XFS trademark..... | Jan 09 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | [16:25] <DaemonFC> there's a thought | Jan 09 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | [16:25] <dchinner> bpm: that's one for you | Jan 09 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | [16:25] <dchinner> trademarks: defend them or lose them | Jan 09 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | [16:26] <DaemonFC> true, if they are using those marks without SGI's permission, they're in trouble anyway | Jan 09 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | [16:26] <DaemonFC> I didn't even consider that | Jan 09 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | [16:28] <dchinner> DaemonFC: trademarks are an interesting beast - you only get in trouble for using a trademark if the owner sues you | Jan 09 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | [16:28] <DaemonFC> I doubt a small company with a few programmers made an independent full-featured XFS implementation that is "twice as fast" | Jan 09 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | [16:28] <DaemonFC> but, it's up to what the copyright and trademark holders on XFS want to do about it | Jan 09 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | [16:29] <dchinner> and if the owner doesnt ask you to cease and desist, then the owner loses legal standing to enforce the trademark on anyone | Jan 09 21:30 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: good work | Jan 09 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | [16:29] <DaemonFC> well, there probably are ways to make XFS twice as fast if you care nothing about data integrity | Jan 09 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | [16:30] <DaemonFC> disable or don't implement write barriers and you're well on your way | Jan 09 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 09 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | [16:32] * bpm will point some internal people at the website. | Jan 09 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: It looks as if SGI is willing to pursue Tuxera over SGI's marks | Jan 09 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | possibly anyway | Jan 09 21:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] The recaptcha plugin was throwing an error. No idea why. I've disabled it for now. | Jan 09 21:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Tzag Good afternoon !identiverse | Jan 09 21:37 | |
| DaemonFC | Linux has a license to use SGI's marks | Jan 09 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | to describe the GPL licensed XFS file system driver it has | Jan 09 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | but Tuxera never asked if using the marks was alright | Jan 09 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | so even if their code isn't infringing copyrights, they are still using marks without SGI's permission | Jan 09 21:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Just happened on ITWorld: Cory Doctorow outlines 'The Coming War on General Purpose Computation' http://www.ur1.ca/7dc61 << photo by *me* :D | Jan 09 21:41 | |
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| *schestowitz listens to good ol' rPodigy | Jan 09 21:41 | |
| DaemonFC | SGI also gave the BSD XFS porting project a license to use the XFS marks | Jan 09 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | but that driver is read-only | Jan 09 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | there's interest in adding write support to it, it just isn't happening quickly | Jan 09 21:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] :) | Jan 09 21:42 | |
| DaemonFC | SGI didn't want to license their XFS code under the BSD license, so the port itself is from scratch using the SGI documentation as a reference | Jan 09 21:43 |
| *MinceR chuckles at the use of the expression "isn't happening quickly" | Jan 09 21:44 | |
| DaemonFC | BSD is busy gloating that they have Oracle's file system that needs a gigabyte of RAM and a dual core CPU to work well | Jan 09 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | embedded and portable systems typically aren't powerful enough to use ZFS | Jan 09 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | on the other hand, XFS's resource use is small and the file system is very fast | Jan 09 21:45 |
| MinceR | were it from GNU and not BSD, you'd be saying "XFS write support on BSD is just one of those things that never got past theory" | Jan 09 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | I guess it just depends on if you care about the extra features that ZFS and BtrFS have, enough to accept that they take more resources and the codebase maturity and robustness is.....questionable | Jan 09 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | at this point | Jan 09 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: FreeBSD has an entirely different disease that causes a lot of their work to never make it past theory or crude and unusable implementation | Jan 09 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | than the reason that tends to happen with a lot of GNU projects | Jan 09 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | FreeBSD's license is all about making it easy for them to write something for freeloaders looking for a handout to simply take | Jan 09 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | and not contribute anything back to | Jan 09 21:48 |
| MinceR | yet you're going easy on them | Jan 09 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | they claim it results in more consistent implementations, that's true sometimes | Jan 09 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | but more often it just results in different forks under different licenses | Jan 09 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | with different bugs and features | Jan 09 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | and the fragmentation is far worse than what would have happened under the GPL | Jan 09 21:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Ik heb mijn laptop op mijn Aso Huge LED TV aangesloten, dus ik heb al een Ubuntu TV... Lekker puh! ;-) | Jan 09 21:49 | |
| DaemonFC | no, I'm not really going easy on them | Jan 09 21:49 |
| MinceR | if it's GNU or Mozilla, you're foaming at the mouth | Jan 09 21:50 |
| DaemonFC | as far as I know, nobody other than Tuxera is interested in stealing code, and they obviously saw it was cheaper to violate the GPL license of the Linux version and hope nobody came after them than it would have been to finish the FreeBSD port | Jan 09 21:50 |
| MinceR | :> | Jan 09 21:50 |
| DaemonFC | or god forbid, finish it and allow anyone to use it under the BSD license they got it under | Jan 09 21:50 |
| DaemonFC | *stealing XFS code | Jan 09 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | is what I meant to say | Jan 09 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | it was easier for them to violate the GPL and hope nobody noticed or cared | Jan 09 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | it was probably one of those "calculated risks" | Jan 09 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | that GPL violating Android distributors like to take so often | Jan 09 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | that's funny when the BSD version is so bad they can't give it away | Jan 09 21:52 |
| DaemonFC | "Our version is FREER!!!!" | Jan 09 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | Tuxera: "We'll take our chances stealing it from the Linux people" | Jan 09 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | I bet that's how that went down | Jan 09 21:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] I rarely use any search nowadays. The crux of my point re: DDG was that Bing is getting hits as a result of using it. | Jan 09 21:54 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: how's it coming along? | Jan 09 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | an SGI employee has forwarded the trademark issue to their legal department | Jan 09 21:55 |
| schestowitz | SGI is bankrupt | Jan 09 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | no | Jan 09 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | they're doing alright | Jan 09 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | they were bought out by Rackable some time ago | Jan 09 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | which now does business under the SGI name | Jan 09 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | and they own all of SGI's assets | Jan 09 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | and they kept most of SGI's employees | Jan 09 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Graphics_International | Jan 09 22:00 |
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| schestowitz | What are the "assets"? Patents? | Jan 09 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | the old SGI is dead | Jan 09 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | the new SGI is profitable | Jan 09 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: patents, trademarks, copyrights, customers with contracts | Jan 09 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | their product lines | Jan 09 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | they still make good hardware | Jan 09 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | most of it ships with RHEL | Jan 09 22:03 |
| schestowitz | they have govt. contracts | Jan 09 22:12 |
| schestowitz | What was aid at one stage was, SGI could not be left to rot because the govt. had too much vested in it | Jan 09 22:13 |
| schestowitz | This is also why companies like MSFT want to get such bailout routes, just in case stuff hits the fan | Jan 09 22:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Deleted that dent, forgot momentarily about @andyc being in hospital. | Jan 09 22:14 | |
| schestowitz | hosptial? | Jan 09 22:14 |
| schestowitz | whoa | Jan 09 22:14 |
| schestowitz | In the US... good luck with aaaaaal that | Jan 09 22:17 |
| schestowitz | BTW, Jerry Seinfeld performs a mile from my house this year... but I won't bother after he sold out to Microsoft | Jan 09 22:18 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jan 09 22:27 |
| MinceR | hay | Jan 09 22:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Researcher reports T-Mobile UK is using #DPI and packet forgery to jam SMTPS email encryption and VPNs https://eff.org/r.N98 #netneutrality | Jan 09 22:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Approach to internationalization in !GPLv3 #suboptimal, in retrospect. Interested to see how !CC 4.0 licenses might address same issue. | Jan 09 22:29 | |
| schestowitz | http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2012/01/08/googleplus/ | Jan 09 22:35 |
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| MinceR | gn | Jan 09 22:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Top German cop uses #spyware on daughter, gets hacked in retaliation http://goo.gl/81js7 | Jan 09 22:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @mpaluchowski: 'No SOPA' is a Chrome extension that warns you when you land on website of a #SOPA supporter: https://t.co/ku6GCUsx | Jan 09 22:42 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Jan 09 22:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Study Confirms: News Networks Owned By #SOPA Supporters...Are Ignoring SOPA/PIPA http://goo.gl/D9zaZ | Jan 09 22:44 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Study Confirms: News Networks Owned By SOPA Supporters... Are Ignoring SOPA/PIPA | Techdirt .::. Size~: 54.63 KB | Jan 09 22:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Opera Mundi - Projeto de regulação da internet nos EUA fere soberania de outros países, dizem especialistas - #sopa http://goo.gl/o48Td | Jan 09 22:45 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Opera Mundi - Projeto de regulação da internet nos EUA fere soberania de outros países, dizem especialistas .::. Size~: 41.7 KB | Jan 09 22:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Yale law professor Jack Balkin: #SOPA "enables a system of private prior restraint," violates the 1st Amendment https://eff.org/r.2NC | Jan 09 22:49 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Harvard Law and Policy Review » Free Expression: Five Questions with Jack Balkin .::. Size~: 41.38 KB | Jan 09 22:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #RonPaul Talks About #SOPA And The #NDAA Bill At N.H Airport Hanger Rally - YouTube http://ur1.ca/7ded8 | Jan 09 22:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ron Paul Talks About SOPA And The NDAA Bill At N.H Airport Hanger Rally - YouTube .::. Size~: 123.02 KB | Jan 09 22:52 |
| schestowitz | http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21228440.700-dotdashdiss-the-gentleman-hackers-1903-lulz.html | Jan 09 22:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Dot-dash-diss: The gentleman hacker's 1903 lulz - tech - 27 December 2011 - New Scientist .::. Size~: 54.52 KB | Jan 09 22:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] RT @ovigia #RonPaul Talks About #SOPA And The #NDAA Bill At N.H Airport Hanger Rally - YouTube http://identi.ca/url/64291570 | Jan 09 22:57 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ron Paul Talks About SOPA And The NDAA Bill At N.H Airport Hanger Rally - YouTube .::. Size~: 123.68 KB | Jan 09 22:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] A Lei Minority Report | Bitaites - #mafiaa #pt #pl118 http://goo.gl/LjoAO | Jan 09 23:00 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/01/invincible-tb-india/ | Jan 09 23:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: A Lei Minority Report | Bitaites .::. Size~: 80.76 KB | Jan 09 23:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: India Reports Completely Drug-Resistant TB | Wired Science | Wired.com .::. Size~: 59.04 KB | Jan 09 23:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Hacked memo leaked: #Apple, #Nokia, #RIM supply #backdoors for gov't intercept? - Computerworld - #surveillance #india http://goo.gl/moT5H | Jan 09 23:02 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Hacked memo leaked: Apple, Nokia, RIM supply backdoors for gov't intercept? - Computerworld Blogs .::. Size~: 87.62 KB | Jan 09 23:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] we are generic blue folk, we are (a growing) legion (stuck with the same mask), we do not forget (to try to change avatars) ;) #identica | Jan 09 23:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Proposta de Lei 118. Notas avulsas #1 | Celso Martinho - #mafiaa #pt #pl118 http://goo.gl/ivONK | Jan 09 23:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @fontana @mlinksva /me is also interested in the issue and in a blogpost on that matter :) | Jan 09 23:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Proposta de Lei 118. Notas avulsas #1 | Celso Martinho .::. Size~: 45.99 KB | Jan 09 23:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Are the major television networks ignoring debate about the #blacklist bills? https://eff.org/r.2N9 #SOPA #PIPA | Jan 09 23:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] RT @eff Yale law professor Jack Balkin: #SOPA "enables a system of private prior restraint," violates the 1st Amendment https://eff.org/ ... | Jan 09 23:19 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: As Major Companies Plan Blackout Protest, Where Has The Mainstream Media Been On Coverage Of SOPA? | Mediaite .::. Size~: 107.39 KB | Jan 09 23:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Electronic Frontier Foundation | Defending your rights in the digital world .::. Size~: 32.89 KB | Jan 09 23:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] What a fail! :D ♻ @Asher_Wolf: Kremlin activists caught red-handed in Photoshop smear http://t.co/XKaLvS5a | Jan 09 23:20 | |
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| schestowitz | "In a sleight of hand used repeatedly by the Soviet authorities to support their own version of history, pro-Kremlin activists Photoshopped a picture of Mr Navalny to make it look as if he had met with and was being funded by Boris Berezovsky, a UK-based oligarch who is wanted in Russia on criminal charges." | Jan 09 23:25 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 'Open' Advocate Darrell Issa Sponsoring Bill That Will Close Off #OpenAccess To Gov't Funded Research - http://bit.ly/xz7qR3 appalling | Jan 09 23:34 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Unfortunate: 'Open' Advocate Darrell Issa Sponsoring Bill That Will Close Off Open Access To Gov't Funded Research | Techdirt .::. Size~: 48.78 KB | Jan 09 23:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Steve Jobs's Paycheck: $1. Tim Cook's Paycheck: $378 Million. - http://dthin.gs/zMTpQo really? banker-level salary? #apple | Jan 09 23:37 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: New Apple CEO Made Nearly $378 Million Last Year - John Paczkowski - News - AllThingsD .::. Size~: 82.09 KB | Jan 09 23:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Rebecca Black blocks a Polish parody of #Friday. ur1.ca/7df87 for shame! | Jan 09 23:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Join EFF for Happy Hour at #CES today! 4:30-6PM at Double Helix Wine Bar, Palazzo Shoppes. https://eff.org/r.4NE | Jan 09 23:45 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: EFF Happy Hour in Las Vegas - Mon. Jan. 9th | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 27.89 KB | Jan 09 23:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] It does use Bing (and a lengthy description of how would not suit identi.ca) I would suggest you visit my diaspora conversation.... | Jan 09 23:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !tzag Evening !Identiverse, not much left here though. | Jan 09 23:47 | |
| schestowitz | Joindisaspora is migrating between DCs | Jan 09 23:47 |
| schestowitz | According to a notice they put up just a few minutes ago | Jan 09 23:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] ...which I chatted with someone who donated code to the project. Unfortunately Diaspora is down at the moment. | Jan 09 23:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz I'm pretty sure I've seen those initials (? or maybe acronyms) before b/c o recollect making sshh jokes ... but no idea what you ask | Jan 09 23:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] A quote from a DDG dev: "We do use results from Bing. Our zero-click info and some other stuff we do, however, uses results from all over. " | Jan 09 23:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] So that (in brief identi.ca ways) explains why your results are different. | Jan 09 23:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Please see answer above (I appologize the replies are a little disjointed) | Jan 09 23:50 | |
| DaemonFC | [18:52] <DaemonFC> There's a worldwide conspiracy to make people afraid of...everything and everyone | Jan 09 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | [18:52] <DaemonFC> naturally all you can do is smile | Jan 09 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 09 23:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Hey! You always seem right on the ball with tech conversations, don't be hard on yourself! | Jan 09 23:54 | |
| DaemonFC | [18:54] <DaemonFC> and having only the ability to make people fear things that exist, they even expect you to fear things they made up | Jan 09 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | [18:54] <DaemonFC> I don't even know what to be afraid of anymore. Was there a memo? | Jan 09 23:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] The whole DDG and Bing relationship was a little wiffy for my liking, results are one thing, bolstering MS search market share is another. | Jan 09 23:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] I think (and I'll have to check) that the dev who made the Bing statement that I quoted was the same one who chatted to me on Diaspora. | Jan 09 23:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @laurelrusswurm Had to do with their own shit, so i guess #carrieriq is living in you | Jan 09 23:55 | |
| formic_ | I don't like Google tracking me | Jan 09 23:55 |
| formic_ | At least ddg and Scroogle provide a shield | Jan 09 23:56 |
| schestowitz | scroogle takes a while to access | Jan 09 23:56 |
| schestowitz | So although I ought to use it I never remember to :-) | Jan 09 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | scroogle gets rid of the annoying Google crap too | Jan 09 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | the instant search spyware | Jan 09 23:57 |
| formic_ | Ddg is fast on TOR | Jan 09 23:57 |
| schestowitz | Google has embedded itself in many toolbar's inc. Firefox' address bar | Jan 09 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | the "sponsored" results | Jan 09 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | the ads | Jan 09 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | and the bandwidth sucking page previews | Jan 09 23:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] But sure, as soon as its up....... Diaspora has been a real pain lately. | Jan 09 23:57 | |
| schestowitz | DDG helps MS | Jan 09 23:57 |
| schestowitz | via Yahoo, too | Jan 09 23:57 |
| schestowitz | Until that changes I won't touch it | Jan 09 23:57 |
| schestowitz | I used dogpile and webcrawler until about 2004 | Jan 09 23:58 |
| formic_ | I'd rather help ms vs being tracked by big brother | Jan 09 23:58 |
| formic_ | Like I said, ddg is a shield | Jan 09 23:58 |
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