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DaemonFChttp://chicagoist.com/2012/01/10/indiana_lawmakers_consider_move_to.phpJan 11 00:02
DaemonFChehJan 11 00:02
Diablo-D3schestowitzdudeJan 11 00:03
Diablo-D3schestowitz: dudeJan 11 00:03
formic_isn't php like really old nowJan 11 00:03
Diablo-D3Ive been saying this for fucking yeasJan 11 00:03
Diablo-D3yearsJan 11 00:03
Diablo-D3the 0th commandment: dont be a douchebagJan 11 00:03
Diablo-D3all the ten other commandments are just a subset of thatJan 11 00:04
schestowitzAmendment 0: fuck the government? :-)Jan 11 00:04
formic_indiana lawmakers consider move to phpJan 11 00:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #AP Finally Launches #NewsRight... And It's #Righthaven Lite? http://goo.gl/iO0Ua #shakedownJan 11 00:04
schestowitzI think they don't know what php isJan 11 00:04
schestowitzMaybe they think it's a name of some boffin's PCJan 11 00:04
Diablo-D3boffin is not a real word damnit.Jan 11 00:05
formic_I think he meant wankerJan 11 00:05
formic_which is britishJan 11 00:05
Diablo-D3wanker isnt a real word either!Jan 11 00:06
formic_yes it isJan 11 00:06
Diablo-D3I live in America.Jan 11 00:07
ThistleWebphp = pretty hot place? as in "lets all move to a vacation spot paid for by the tax payer so we have better weather to discuss how to shaft them more"Jan 11 00:07
Diablo-D3there is nothing outside the country borders, especially after we bomb it.Jan 11 00:07
formic_https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WankerJan 11 00:07
formic_America butchered the english languageJan 11 00:08
Diablo-D3wikipedia is not an original source!Jan 11 00:08
Diablo-D3formic_: nopeJan 11 00:08
Diablo-D3afterr much researchJan 11 00:08
formic_yesJan 11 00:08
formic_who do you think invented english? perhaps the english...Jan 11 00:08
Diablo-D3american and australian are much closer to real english than england english isJan 11 00:08
Diablo-D3infact, shakespere would have sounded very similar to someone with a heavy irish accent speaking american.Jan 11 00:08
DaemonFChttp://www.claimsjournal.com/news/east/2012/01/09/198409.htmJan 11 00:09
formic_america and australia just have more wankersJan 11 00:10
formic_Obama is a bellendJan 11 00:11
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkQM6tbbs0IJan 11 00:12
schestowitzI've just refined my email filtersJan 11 00:18
schestowitzthey have 8 types of alarms nowJan 11 00:19
schestowitzcan be enabled/disabled with tickboxes depending on what I do, some with sounds, some without, each different icon based on type and another box too, the popup displays animated icon and provides full previews of the messageJan 11 00:19
schestowitzthunderbird extension does all thisJan 11 00:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Oh boy, how I hate people that write their mails as a single huge bloc of text. Completely unreadable.Jan 11 00:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] eMagenationStudios joined W3C - eMagenationStudios joined as a new W3C Member. http://ow.ly/1gEdqdJan 11 00:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] New #privacy complaint tool unveiled by @privacytoday https://eff.org/r.N6PJan 11 00:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Privacy Rights Clearinghouse Unveils New Privacy Complaint Form | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 30.6 KBJan 11 00:31
formic_http://forum.mandriva.com/en/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=136549#p854370Jan 11 00:33
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formic_bankruptcy againJan 11 00:33
formic_http://www.mageia.org/en/ <-- yay 4 thisJan 11 00:34
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formic_[19:17] <schestowitz> I've just refined my email filtersJan 11 00:35
formic_i stopped using emailJan 11 00:36
formic_keeps it out of pinwheel that wayJan 11 00:36
formic_http://web.archive.org/web/20070713105933/http://www.nsa.gov/teachers/es/data84.pdfJan 11 00:37
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schestowitzI don't like email eitherJan 11 00:38
schestowitzA auto-responders tells people to stop mailing me if possible, but...Jan 11 00:38
schestowitzit's seen as antisocialJan 11 00:38
schestowitzAnd...Jan 11 00:38
formic_wrong linkJan 11 00:38
schestowitzFor passing of files it's still a necessary evil sometimes, never mind private communication, which I guess is not so private after all (no PGP)Jan 11 00:38
formic_pinwheel is an NSA database of email from americans and foreignersJan 11 00:39
schestowitzthey store them in the UK tooJan 11 00:39
schestowitzand pass them over to our occupier/friends in AmericaJan 11 00:39
schestowitzof course, to protect us from tuuuuristsJan 11 00:40
schestowitzI should really learn from our govt.Jan 11 00:40
schestowitzI'll say, "mate, to protect me from child molester, I hereby demand access to all your snail mail and I need to monitor what books you read"Jan 11 00:40
schestowitz!google carlin on cildrenJan 11 00:41
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Locations - The Kids Music Underground | http://www.kidsmusicunderground.com/testimonials.htmlJan 11 00:41
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - George Carlin... It's Bad for Ya! (2008) (TV) - Memorable quotes - IMDb | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0963207/quotesJan 11 00:41
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - George Carlin - Children - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D_rIPe5akN48Jan 11 00:41
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - George Carlin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_CarlinJan 11 00:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Its one of the many novels...I do play the Warhammer game.....great stuff!Jan 11 00:41
formic_I think the UK already does a good job keeping tourists outJan 11 00:41
formic_A british friend of a friend told me once that the UK bobbies use CCTV to spy on womens cleavageJan 11 00:43
formic_then there are the TSA rapists in the US, feeling up women to protect people from terroristsJan 11 00:43
formic_meanwhile, Internet Explorer is still legal even though it plays a major role in DDOS zombified computersJan 11 00:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Software rendering <5 months away & I've had no issues with !gnome shell and #nouveau or free ATI drivers. Plus Intel graphics are common.Jan 11 00:46
schestowitzformic_: it's all goodJan 11 00:47
formic_is it?Jan 11 00:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] RT @piorekf Raspberry Pi: "We’ve started manufacture!" :D ur1.ca/7ec23 !gnu !linux !fsf !debian !gentooJan 11 00:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @piorekf: Raspberry Pi: "We’ve started manufacture!" :D ur1.ca/7ec23 #gnu #linux #fsf #debian #gentooJan 11 00:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Will Montana recall its two pro-#NDAA senators? Hope so! ur1.ca/7emr3Jan 11 00:57
schestowitzI was just being sarcasticJan 11 00:58
formic_ahJan 11 01:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fedora 16 Times 3: One Month, Three Versions http://is.gd/RYy0QV #fedora #gnu #linuxJan 11 01:01
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DaemonFChttp://images.4chan.org/g/src/1326243485679.pngJan 11 01:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @portenkirchner VexFlow: music engraving in !JavaScript and !HTML5 http://vexflow.com/Jan 11 01:04
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formic_LOLJan 11 01:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @maymaym My #PAC2011 talk video: "Dreaming of Compassion: Technology, !Polyamory & Social Justice" http://ur1.ca/5eue4 Blog post comi ...Jan 11 01:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @maymaym !Polyamory & non-monogamous #culture is a peer-to-peer network infrastructure for the transmission of information about huma ...Jan 11 01:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @tedks #Anarchists don't protest. Anarchists resist. !anarchism !anarchyJan 11 01:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @samatjain pdf.js extension for !Firefox brings in-browser PDF rendering (no plugins or external programs) http://ur1.ca/6zr0i ...Jan 11 01:19
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schestowitzhttp://www.androidguys.com/2012/01/10/lg-and-capcom-hosting-an-android-based-street-fighter-iv-tournament-114/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+androidguyscom+%28AndroidGuys%29Jan 11 01:22
schestowitzcoo'Jan 11 01:23
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schestowitz http://www.quora.com/What-movies-contain-a-great-deal-of-propaganda/answer/Toby-ThainJan 11 01:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Toby Thain's answer to What movies contain a great deal of propaganda? - Quora .::. Size~: 132.37 KBJan 11 01:23
formic_when did google stop being spyware??Jan 11 01:23
schestowitzDepends on the type. Even some of the "normalising" films (behaviour) are a form of propaganda, e.g. American beautyJan 11 01:24
DaemonFCformic_: They only add moreJan 11 01:24
schestowitzformic_:when  did it begin?Jan 11 01:24
schestowitzThat's the thing to askJan 11 01:24
formic_when search started tracking peopleJan 11 01:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] No MPEG4-AAC but !Ogg vorbis, yes, absolutely.Jan 11 01:26
formic_now they track people with smartphonesJan 11 01:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Elections in non participatory democracies (all of them) are a matter of being patient to see who it is who is going to be robbing you next.Jan 11 01:27
schestowitzFeaturephones tooJan 11 01:28
schestowitzbut not google, the carriersJan 11 01:28
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formic_you cant use an android without a gmail accountJan 11 01:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @eldreammachine Free comics about The Hurd (under CC-BY-SA/LAL) http://ur1.ca/7enjr !Copyleft !comics !we ...Jan 11 01:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @kete might install some !freedombox apps and see how a virtual !hurd doesJan 11 01:29
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formic_google *and* the carriersJan 11 01:29
schestowitzDo Know Evil?Jan 11 01:30
formic_!google red masonic apronJan 11 01:30
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Brother Washington's Masonic Apron | http://www.pagrandlodge.org/tour/apron/index.htmlJan 11 01:30
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Brother Washington's Masonic Apron - Masonic Library and Museum | http://www.pagrandlodge.org/mlam/apron/Jan 11 01:30
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - What is the "Red Lodge"? (Masons reply plz) - David Icke's ... | http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php%3Ft%3D49465Jan 11 01:30
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Red Tower Regalia | http://www.redtowerregalia.com/Jan 11 01:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Really sad that !Apache (formerly Google) !Wave was so poorly executed. The protocol had so much potential for the !FederatedSocialWebJan 11 01:31
formic_gmail logoJan 11 01:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Polaroid Announces a Smart Camera Powered by Android! http://is.gd/Szm2hr Polaroid: #linux insidJan 11 01:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Pantech Announces LTE Tablet For AT&T http://is.gd/zIBU1L #Pantech #AndroidJan 11 01:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @osamak Now this is interesting: http://ur1.ca/7cb1s ! ...Jan 11 01:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @forteller . @tpbdotorg didn't succeed in buying #Sealand http://bit.ly/uAkwq4 They might have better luck with #Huldra? http://bit.l ...Jan 11 01:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Mitt Romney talking about 'Free Enterprise' and 'One nation under god'. Business as normal.Jan 11 01:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @osamak Very good article: "Nobody Asked For A Refrigerator Fee" http://ur1.ca/4yfgi ...Jan 11 01:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Would there be people interested in joining a translation collective - a group of people, concentrated in a single plac http://ur1.ca/7enrdJan 11 01:34
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formic_http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/04/google-ceo-eric-schmidt-privacy_n_776924.html#s170420Jan 11 01:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @maymaym Hey, "Big Brother, we are watching you." 5 tips for filming revolution: http://goo.gl/eK68Z SA http://is.gd/TdrLMW #OWS !act ...Jan 11 01:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @maymaym #FreeIdea: Coordinate campaign to get words like "heteronormative" into the dictionaries of all open source autocorrect libr ...Jan 11 01:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @maymaym It is okay to like things that are partially sexist, classist, racist, etc. as long as you also see the -ism: http://ur1.ca/ ...Jan 11 01:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @gnomea11y New Year's Resolution: Help make 2012 the Year of #accessibility for #gnome ! http://ur1.ca/6xq6m @gnome !gnome #f ...Jan 11 01:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] OH (said by me to @bkuhn ) : " #Haskell is the answer to all our problems!"Jan 11 01:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Zorin OS 5.2 Lite released http://is.gd/rEc86r #zorin #linuxJan 11 01:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] It is quite interesting that some politicians in the USA are criticising their opponents for being like us Europeans.Jan 11 01:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] If !OLPC is meant to be intuitive for children who have never used a computer before, can the next version ship with !colemak or !dvorak ?Jan 11 01:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @glynmoody British company looks to create cheap, open platforms - http://bit.ly/wUABzA cheaper than Raspberry PI? #choice #linuxJan 11 01:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The term broadband has been about for years now, so what is really broadband now as opposed to what we called it 10+ years ago?Jan 11 01:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Who is flying drones in the U.S.? EFF sues government for withholding info on drone flight authorizations https://eff.org/r.3NTJan 11 01:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @bilboed GIMP's resynthesizer FTW. Eat that CS5 http://is.gd/b7k9QJan 11 01:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Funny that the web went wild when Adobe announced content aware fill even though !GIMP has had that for, what, eight years?Jan 11 01:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Also interesting that the writer fluctuates between "Mr Moglen" and "Dr Moglen" which I recall #Perens doing at #FSF meeting in 2007Jan 11 01:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @rysiek Praise the Ctrl-V! #Kopimism officially a religion in SWeden! ur1.ca/78ffp /cc @telecomix :D !atheism #fixedJan 11 01:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] zomg I know it's #badform to talk about dreams on net but just recalled dream t'other day about being in a "Who's On First" routineJan 11 01:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @Fontana educate me why is it bad form to talk about dreams when unimportant things are normal fare?Jan 11 01:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @acurrie Things that cause rape: http://ur1.ca/7eojo via !redditJan 11 01:59
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*DaemonFC is listening to Spiderbite by Jerry Cantrell on Degradation Trip [Amarok]Jan 11 02:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @forteller My favorite: Greta Christina, Ophelia Benson, etc. RT @rebeccawatson: !Skeptics Who Kicked Ass: 2011 http://is.gd/vg2a51 ! ...Jan 11 02:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @forteller Shed your weight problem here http://ur1.ca/7eolk !feminismJan 11 02:01
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formic_even if google are the good guys, they have a database of information that would make hitler cream his pantsJan 11 02:02
formic_all an NSA gag order awayJan 11 02:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Polar bears.... if they can't hack it in the new competative world of global warming then they deserve to die. #freemarketsJan 11 02:02
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DaemonFCI for one welcome our Google overlordsJan 11 02:03
formic_or a subpoenaJan 11 02:03
schestowitzI for one Jan 11 02:04
schestowitzwelcomeJan 11 02:04
schestowitz:-pJan 11 02:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @faif !FaiFCast 0x08: @kaz & @bkuhn discuss the non-commercial !CC licenses,comparing them to !Free Software/Culture licenses: http:/ ...Jan 11 02:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @zack !Debian in the New York Times http://ur1.ca/39gu5 & proud to be helping the #FreedomBox foundation http://ur1.ca/38kbp #nyt !sf ...Jan 11 02:04
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schestowitzformic_: Google is another /type/ of problemJan 11 02:04
formic_Google is the skynet of reality, working for the government.Jan 11 02:06
schestowitzYou too work for the governmentJan 11 02:06
schestowitzthe problem is, some companies don't put up a fightJan 11 02:07
formic_As a slave, Google gets to be one of the puppet dictatorsJan 11 02:07
schestowitzApple, for example, plays along with everythingJan 11 02:07
formic_Google has its spyware in everythingJan 11 02:07
schestowitzThere has been a lot of evidence over the years that Google does not play ball too easiltJan 11 02:07
schestowitzUnlike YahooJan 11 02:07
formic_in publicJan 11 02:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @rysiek so, what's the deal with !Debian #CUT or any other projects aiming in providing a Debian-based rolling release?.. any news?Jan 11 02:07
schestowitzTwitter also put up a fight and informed the spied-on usersJan 11 02:07
formic_you realize the NSA might have everything Google does, with a gag order that prevents Google from doing anything about itJan 11 02:08
schestowitzthere should be a solganJan 11 02:08
prurigroGoogle believes in privacy, but that anonymity should be illegal, and they've stated before that they'd like to own identityJan 11 02:08
formic_they have a habbit of gagging people filing patent applications and then disappearing the devicesJan 11 02:08
schestowitzless NSA< more NASSAJan 11 02:08
prurigrolotsa scary companies, but google's one in my booksJan 11 02:08
prurigronot that I don't use itJan 11 02:08
schestowitzbut their fonts are so... colourfu,Jan 11 02:09
formic_like it or not, Google is helping the military industrial complex weather it likes it or notJan 11 02:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] thanks! ♻ @tieguy: First new year's resolution, 10 days late: I will use 'hereditary license' any time I am tempted to say 'viral license.'Jan 11 02:11
prurigroschestowitz, I honestly believe google is filled with a collection of awesome developers who want to do the right thing-- and for that their products are great, but their current leader has some scary views that make me want to avoid feeding them too muchJan 11 02:11
prurigroand even if their leader was goodJan 11 02:11
schestowitzWhich leader/s?Jan 11 02:11
prurigroa company can shift leadership overnight, and no single entity (or collaboration for that matter) should own so much dataJan 11 02:11
formic_they are US basedJan 11 02:12
prurigroI believe it was their CEO who stated that anonymity should be illegal in the futureJan 11 02:12
schestowitzscaryJan 11 02:12
formic_they are subject to spooksJan 11 02:12
schestowitzChina would be betterJan 11 02:12
prurigrololJan 11 02:12
schestowitznot for their policyJan 11 02:12
schestowitzChina can be scary, but..Jan 11 02:12
schestowitzThe US has tortrue chambers in EuropeJan 11 02:12
schestowitzChina hasn'tJan 11 02:12
schestowitzthe US has no bordersJan 11 02:12
schestowitzwith 1000+ military bases around the worldJan 11 02:12
prurigroboth countries are scary for the same reason google is becoming scary imoJan 11 02:13
schestowitzit's like that masked smiling (supposedly) fat man with a massive axe next to the nooseJan 11 02:13
schestowitzStay out of the US' wayJan 11 02:13
schestowitzAnd you'll be fineJan 11 02:13
schestowitzFuck the US, use a condomJan 11 02:13
schestowitzAask AssangeJan 11 02:13
prurigrotoo much power in anyone's hands can only spell disasterJan 11 02:13
prurigroand lolJan 11 02:13
schestowitzThe USSA took control of some wikileaks ccountsJan 11 02:13
schestowitzin twitter (US service)Jan 11 02:14
prurigroassange is a sign of the timesJan 11 02:14
schestowitzEven a Iceland0based MP!Jan 11 02:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @maymaym Sexualization is sex-negative, being anti-sexualization is !SexPositive: http://ur1.ca/41sdv Smart. /by @ReneeKRandazzo via ...Jan 11 02:14
prurigroObased?Jan 11 02:14
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schestowitzThe US is an aggressive empire, but they have good PRJan 11 02:14
DaemonFChttp://www.crossmeta.org/redmine/projects/crossmeta/filesJan 11 02:14
schestowitzIt's like a national embodiment of Bill gatesJan 11 02:14
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DaemonFCthey claim these are under the GPLJan 11 02:14
schestowitznotice how rich Americans are made to be loved by the publicJan 11 02:14
DaemonFCand include the GPL in the bundleJan 11 02:14
schestowitzLike Warren and BillJan 11 02:14
DaemonFCwhere's the source code?Jan 11 02:14
schestowitzBig criminals become "good"Jan 11 02:15
schestowitzBig imperialists tooJan 11 02:15
schestowitzCuba=badJan 11 02:15
schestowitzUS=democracyJan 11 02:15
schestowitzheroin=badJan 11 02:15
schestowitzchampage=greatJan 11 02:15
schestowitz*pangeJan 11 02:15
formic_champaignJan 11 02:15
schestowitzchampagneJan 11 02:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @zoowar Cell Phone Guide for Occupy Wall Street Protesters (and Everyone Else) !eff !activism http://ur1.ca/5eo99Jan 11 02:16
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prurigrodo they have good PRJan 11 02:16
prurigroI think everyone's just scared shitless these days hahaJan 11 02:16
schestowitzthe champaign campaign... capture the flag, take all the gold mine, seize champagne cellar, kill all the orcsJan 11 02:16
prurigrosome random country was gonna legalize drugs recently, but said they'd only do it if other countries were willing to join so he didn't get assassinatedJan 11 02:16
schestowitzactually, it's initrestingJan 11 02:16
prurigrotheir leader said*Jan 11 02:17
schestowitzsome of my famly is in the US, but when I was about 10-14 I hated the USJan 11 02:17
schestowitzI really vehemently hated it... I could explain whyJan 11 02:17
formic_you hate the US?Jan 11 02:17
schestowitzbut then it changed, around age 15Jan 11 02:17
formic_sounds like terrorismJan 11 02:17
schestowitzI don't quite know whyJan 11 02:17
schestowitzI also hated Michael Jordan for some reasonJan 11 02:17
schestowitzNo, that was ages ago.Jan 11 02:17
formic_you just hated that stuff for no reason?Jan 11 02:17
schestowitzRight now I don't hate any countryJan 11 02:18
schestowitzformic_: yeahJan 11 02:18
formic_sounds like sociopathyJan 11 02:18
schestowitzi think it was showoff cultureJan 11 02:18
prurigroeveryone's sociopathic for a few years in their teensJan 11 02:18
schestowitzlike, in the 1992 olympics, in spain/barcelona IIRCJan 11 02:18
prurigrodid you see them win the snowboarding gold in the last winter?Jan 11 02:18
schestowitzsounds like frat sportJan 11 02:19
prurigrothat guy running around with his giant american flag cape hahaJan 11 02:19
schestowitzdid they high-five a lot?Jan 11 02:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @maymaym We cannot change the way we do !activism (adopting total non-violence) w/out 1st ending how the school #system teaches us ho ...Jan 11 02:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I have been reloading a game from Steam so I appologise to all Identizens for denting from a non FLOSS OS.Jan 11 02:19
prurigrolol, he was too busy screaming america with his cape onJan 11 02:19
DaemonFChttp://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois/?tool_id=66&token=&toolhandler_redirect=0&ip=crossmeta.orgJan 11 02:19
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prurigroto hi five, iircJan 11 02:19
schestowitzin bobsled tights... no homo..Jan 11 02:19
schestowitzmounted on top of each other on the sleigh :-)Jan 11 02:20
prurigrololJan 11 02:20
prurigrooh dearJan 11 02:20
schestowitzwinter sports are offJan 11 02:20
schestowitz*oddJan 11 02:20
prurigrosuch a large % is anti gay, yet their most masculine heroes do such questionable thingsJan 11 02:20
schestowitzdangerous too, I realise now someone died in the pipes recently... saw it on TVJan 11 02:20
prurigroWWF/WWEJan 11 02:20
prurigroahh yea, in vancouver?Jan 11 02:21
schestowitzahJan 11 02:21
formic_lol WWE is nothingJan 11 02:21
formic_all the rednecks watch that other wrestling showJan 11 02:21
schestowitzyes, well, people who still watch it in their adulthood probably like man musclesJan 11 02:21
formic_with the octagonJan 11 02:21
DaemonFChttps://who.godaddy.com/whois.aspx?domain=crossmeta.org&prog_id=GoDaddyJan 11 02:21
schestowitzor maybe bring he kids to itJan 11 02:21
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formic_i cant remember the nameJan 11 02:21
prurigroapparently the WWF created some gay wrestlers to make it clear the other ones weren'tJan 11 02:21
formic_UFCJan 11 02:21
prurigrololJan 11 02:21
schestowitzI am actually in the middle of s listen to a podcast about the history or "scientific wreslting"Jan 11 02:21
prurigroat least UFC isn't a soap operaJan 11 02:21
schestowitzThe original name for "professional" wrestlingJan 11 02:21
schestowitzUFC is boringJan 11 02:22
schestowitzno storyline, no costumes, too longJan 11 02:22
schestowitzBut many people respect the intention, soJan 11 02:22
formic_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcsiuYIgEG4Jan 11 02:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @maymaym #Diversity of #tactics: construing #violence narrowly "keeps us from thinking critically…." http://goo.gl/JbstH #nonviolence ...Jan 11 02:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @maymaym #Hierarchy is a lot like #violence; it's important to know when & how to use 'em well. /cc !anarchism !BDSM !activism #theor ...Jan 11 02:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @maymaym Revolution CAN be replicated—here's how http://ur1.ca/6vb6m "There're so many things you can do" SA http://goo.gl/Wdp4z !act ...Jan 11 02:22
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formic_WWE didn't fake mankind falling through the cage onto tacsJan 11 02:23
schestowitzit's always funny wen a country with a violent past censors so much stuffJan 11 02:23
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prurigrolol, control and violence seem to go hand in handJan 11 02:24
prurigrodominance traitsJan 11 02:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @idlerevolutionary Just closed my Bank of America account for a local credit union! #bankrun !anarchismJan 11 02:24
schestowitzLOLJan 11 02:24
formic_the civil war was amusingJan 11 02:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] And any !FSF member can too! http://ur1.ca/57w3lJan 11 02:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @maymaym "anarchists' way of operating [changed] our very idea of what #politics could be" http://is.gd/uR7Tl0 /cc @KinkInExile !anar ...Jan 11 02:26
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formic_the generals on both sides would have dinnerJan 11 02:26
schestowitzlike politicians from opposite campsJan 11 02:27
schestowitzthey are sponsored by similar groupsJan 11 02:27
schestowitzand they need to play a matchJan 11 02:27
schestowitzlike pro wrestlersJan 11 02:27
schestowitzthey both get paidJan 11 02:27
schestowitzThey just need to put up a showJan 11 02:27
schestowitzthe public feels like there is a choice and always a balancing force opposing some policy like copyright maximalism, SOPA, PATRIOT, bailout, etc.Jan 11 02:28
schestowitzExcept Bernie Sanders, I think they're all still bought and bankrolled by the industryJan 11 02:28
schestowitzGenerals wage a war if influence, using men who they manipulate like cattle... very much like politicians do, allowing or disallowing people to enter into their circle of trustJan 11 02:29
schestowitzNotice how Microsoft Florian hardly gets mentioned anymoreJan 11 02:36
schestowitzRevealing he works for Microsoft finished himJan 11 02:36
prurigroFlorian?Jan 11 02:37
schestowitzMulllershillJan 11 02:37
schestowitzubermullerJan 11 02:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Microsoft Advocates on COLA wanting my real name... lol...now I wonder what would happen if I told them...Jan 11 02:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Spain’s Ley Sinde: New Revelations of U.S. Coercion http://is.gd/sGaZEH #spain #usJan 11 02:37
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_Goblinflorian.....I'd forgotten about him.Jan 11 02:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] I am.... I often like to challenge the bad behaviour on comp.os.linux.advocacy by the resident MS trolls/advocates.Jan 11 02:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] I am also on Diaspora....shame its been down... :(Jan 11 02:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Hats Off To Red Hat - http://goo.gl/BRYns #linux #microsoft #mvpbuzz #mvp #windowsJan 11 02:42
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schestowitz_Goblin: oh, I've just noticed that Microsoft trolls promote the latest show. Good stuff.Jan 11 02:43
_Goblinschestowitz: oh have I got some cracking material for the next show.....Jan 11 02:43
_Goblin(not troll related though)Jan 11 02:43
DaemonFCthere are a lot of GPL violators out thereJan 11 02:44
*schestowitz is now known as vcJan 11 02:44
vc_Goblin: can you send a photo for the new banner?Jan 11 02:44
*vc is now known as schestowitzJan 11 02:44
_GoblinIve got to take another one....Jan 11 02:44
schestowitz(accident)Jan 11 02:44
schestowitz_Goblin: okayJan 11 02:44
_GoblinOne of the Microsoft Advocates wants a picture, so they should be quite looking forward to it.Jan 11 02:44
DaemonFCDate: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 21:22:37 -0500Jan 11 02:44
DaemonFCFrom: Ryan FarmerJan 11 02:44
DaemonFCUser-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111222 Thunderbird/9.0Jan 11 02:44
DaemonFCMIME-Version: 1.0Jan 11 02:44
DaemonFCTo: suprasam@gmail.comJan 11 02:45
DaemonFCSubject: GPL license of your Windows file system codeJan 11 02:45
DaemonFCContent-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowedJan 11 02:45
DaemonFCContent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bitJan 11 02:45
DaemonFCIn the bundle for your Windows IFS file systems for Ext2/3/4 and XFS, is Jan 11 02:45
DaemonFCincluded the GNU GPL. This requires the source code to be provided.Jan 11 02:45
DaemonFCCan you please direct me to where I may find a copy of this source code?Jan 11 02:45
DaemonFCThank you.Jan 11 02:45
DaemonFC-Ryan FarmerJan 11 02:45
DaemonFCthe whois entry lists his home phone numberJan 11 02:45
DaemonFCso I may give him a call if he doesn't return my emailJan 11 02:45
schestowitzThis might be funJan 11 02:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Will Identi.ca someday be thought of as the The Well of the #fsw? Or as the GEnie? Or Bitnet?Jan 11 02:46
schestowitzI took some photos a couple of days ago... http://scifitness.co.uk/2012/01/08/afternoon-at-the-gym/Jan 11 02:46
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DaemonFCYou'd figure he'd use Domains By Proxy or something if he was going to be an obnoxious GPL violator who didn't want anyone to contact himJan 11 02:47
schestowitzMaybe report to SFLC or HaraldJan 11 02:47
DaemonFCdoes SFLC care about Linux file system code?Jan 11 02:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] How about "Ebola license"? Let's scare the hell out of the bastards.Jan 11 02:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] What? Breaking the rules of the Geneva Conventions?Jan 11 02:47
schestowitzDaemonFC: today in the news: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/marvell-and-tuxera-announce-industrys-fastest-full-featured-nas-solution-2012-01-10?reflink=MW_news_stmpJan 11 02:47
DaemonFCI've nudged the people in #xfs again over this oneJan 11 02:47
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schestowitzthey shove their MS tax into lots of stuffJan 11 02:48
schestowitzturncoatsJan 11 02:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Can you help convert An !Anarchist FAQ to !LyX or !LaTeX for easy editing, converting & distributing? #AFAQ on FreeNode http://ur1.ca/7eptaJan 11 02:49
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DaemonFChttp://www.marketwatch.com/story/romney-cruises-to-victory-in-nh-primary-2012-01-10?link=MW_story_featstorJan 11 02:50
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DaemonFCGingrich, Santorum, and Perry (the three stooges), are still trailing Jan 11 02:50
schestowitzI heard this one podcastJan 11 02:50
schestowitzaJan 11 02:50
schestowitz liberal oneJan 11 02:50
schestowitzand they made a funny remarkJan 11 02:50
schestowitzAbout Republican debates that don't matter to the newsJan 11 02:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Ive been having some fun with MS advocates on Usenet...should retire for the night...think I should..Jan 11 02:51
DaemonFCit's a pretty close race between Mitt Romney and Ron Paul, but this makes the second primary that Romney has wonJan 11 02:51
schestowitzThey say, these are about which douch floats to the top of the toiletJan 11 02:51
schestowitzand they're "dim-witted"Jan 11 02:51
DaemonFCpeople clearly are not looking for another Texas GovernorJan 11 02:51
schestowitzwell...Jan 11 02:51
schestowitzRepublicans don't like Big GovernmentJan 11 02:51
DaemonFCI think Bush's legacy is hurting Perry more than his own stupidity and arroganceJan 11 02:51
schestowitzExvcept when it comes to executionJan 11 02:52
schestowitzThat's where government ALWAYS gets it right :-)Jan 11 02:52
DaemonFCPerry only got about 1% of the vote in South Carolina's primary Jan 11 02:52
DaemonFChe came in last placeJan 11 02:52
schestowitzPerry is not so "strong" in the race, is he?Jan 11 02:52
DaemonFCnot at allJan 11 02:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @Evan according to Cheney's law the more powerful and arrogant you are the less the Geneva Convention matters. #Tortureanyone?Jan 11 02:52
DaemonFChe only did 5% in IowaJan 11 02:52
schestowitzIn these tough economic times, you know something is wrong when douchbags get eelected and children are forced to pray along with the classJan 11 02:53
DaemonFCa few more like this and he may as well just cancel his entire campaignJan 11 02:53
schestowitzor public meetinghs in a stadium are funded by taxpayers for helping the economy not through more productive work by speaking to onselfJan 11 02:53
schestowitz*butJan 11 02:53
DaemonFCI was expecting Rick Perry to do much better than he hasJan 11 02:53
DaemonFCbut I guess my fears were not warranted Jan 11 02:54
schestowitz!google ricl perry can't name threeJan 11 02:54
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - OOPS! RICK PERRY CAN'T NAME 3 AGENCIES OF ... | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DrQX2lwKS3PgJan 11 02:54
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TechrightsBot-tr[3] - The Stanford Flipside » Rick Perry Can't Name Three Things He's ... | http://stanfordflipside.com/2011/11/rick-perry-cant-name-three-things-hes-thankful-for/Jan 11 02:54
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DaemonFCsince his own party is giving him the boot alreadyJan 11 02:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Oh...Beg your pardon... Yes, but in light of no ID being asked for, its up to them to prove my surname is incorrect....Jan 11 02:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] And even if they do, I wouldn't really suffer a hardship being off G+....Ive too many social networks.Jan 11 02:54
schestowitz!google rick perry wants to secede from the usJan 11 02:55
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TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Mark Sawyer: Governor Rick Perry: America Love It or Leave It? | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-sawyer/rick-perry-secession-_b_933210.htmlJan 11 02:55
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TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Rick Perry critics unearth another secession comment - Maggie ... | http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/61030.htmlJan 11 02:55
DaemonFCschestowitz: In 2008, 43 people in the US voted for Vermin Supreme by writing him in on their ballotJan 11 02:55
DaemonFCI have to admit, I like his platformJan 11 02:55
DaemonFCmandatory tooth brushing and free ponies for allJan 11 02:55
schestowitzcoolJan 11 02:55
schestowitzhow about the rent?Jan 11 02:56
schestowitzit's too damn highJan 11 02:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] having said that...Identi.ca pipes to twitter (and Twitter mostly takes care of itself)Jan 11 02:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] so Its really only G+, Diaspora and Identi.caJan 11 02:56
schestowitz!google it's too damn highJan 11 02:56
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - The Rent Is Too Damn High Party's Jimmy McMillan at the NY ... | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dx4o-TeMHys0Jan 11 02:56
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Rent Is Too Damn High Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rent_Is_Too_Damn_High_PartyJan 11 02:56
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - 'Rent Is Too Damn High' Guy Jimmy McMillan -- Facing Eviction ... | http://www.tmz.com/2011/11/24/jimmy-mcmillan-rent-is-too-damn-high-eviction/Jan 11 02:56
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - The Rent is Too Damn High / Jimmy McMillan | Know Your Meme | http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/the-rent-is-too-damn-high-jimmy-mcmillanJan 11 02:56
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DaemonFCschestowitz: The rent in New York City is high because of over-regulation and rent control lawsJan 11 02:58
DaemonFCnobody wants to cap their rent and lure in sleaze that wrecks the apartment, doesn't pay their rent, and moves out in the middle of the nightJan 11 02:58
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DaemonFCor turns the place into a crack denJan 11 02:58
DaemonFCthe city basically says landlords have to do thatJan 11 02:59
DaemonFCyou want the problem to go away, get rid of the rent control lawsJan 11 02:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Sorry, mix up in thread "I beg your pardon" was in reference to your G+ comment of needing ID...I originally misread it.Jan 11 02:59
DaemonFCthe rent control laws have led to a shortage of apartments for rent because less landlords want to bother doing business in that cityJan 11 03:00
DaemonFCit's one of those liberal programs that has had unintended consequences Jan 11 03:00
DaemonFCno matter how well intentioned it wasJan 11 03:00
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DaemonFCschestowitz: It would be better to just let the market sort itself out, as far as housing goesJan 11 03:01
DaemonFCgovernment manipulation always backfiresJan 11 03:01
DaemonFCat the federal level, it caused the housing bubbleJan 11 03:01
formic_what about people using welfare to compliment their illegal incomeJan 11 03:01
DaemonFCnow that people have been thrown out of the house they had occupied and are seeking apartments, rent is going up all over the countryJan 11 03:02
DaemonFCbecause during those years where a lot of people who couldn't afford to own a home had mortgages, landlords couldn't rent out apartments so they converted them back into housesJan 11 03:03
DaemonFCand now there's a shortage of apartments as landlords buy up houses to turn BACK into apartmentsJan 11 03:03
DaemonFCif the government had just kept its hands off the housing market, the system would have right-sized itselfJan 11 03:03
DaemonFCand you'd have less of a violent back and forthJan 11 03:03
DaemonFCthe whole things started out because a bunch of minorities with bad credit screamed "racism"Jan 11 03:04
DaemonFCand before you knew it, the banks were giving loans to bad credit risks of every creed, color, nationality, etc.Jan 11 03:05
DaemonFCstatutory fairness sucksJan 11 03:05
DaemonFCit turns the system on its head and makes it completely UNFAIRJan 11 03:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @Evan Your Ebola licence will initially have a quicker uptake but in the end be less popular than the hereditary one.Jan 11 03:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Today: #Assange detained 400 days without charge. 22 days until Supreme Court extradition hearing. http://t.co/McMmrn9vJan 11 03:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @maymaym Deep conflict among Breanna ("Bradley") Manning supporters center on #gender identity: http://ur1.ca/6wium Thorny. /cc @Save ...Jan 11 03:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] ♻ @Falkvinge: Why SOPA-Supporting News Networks Don't Mention #SOPA at all http://t.co/rGXrPoYC #pipa #copyright #corruptionJan 11 03:19
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DaemonFCschestowitz: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/396439_229997393742492_210233502385548_514929_932486749_n.jpgJan 11 03:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Ad displayed when looking at spam folder for #gmail account is apparently link to recipe site for "Savory Spam Crescents" !heehawJan 11 03:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clackemovedtoparlementumnet/@clackemovedtoparlementumnet] RT @ajpaulson That terrible moment when you realise you were lied to about Mac OS Extended file system being case sensitiveJan 11 03:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @Fontana You are saying Bkuhn's Mrs has by her debating skill made the net a dream free zone? You are not on your own.Jan 11 03:36
formic_you know what sucksJan 11 03:43
formic_there are hardly any *REAL* new distros these daysJan 11 03:43
formic_everything is based on ubuntu, or debian, or RHEL, or FedoraJan 11 03:44
formic_or openSUSE based, or Mandriva based, or Gentoo based, or Arch Based or Slackware BasedJan 11 03:46
DaemonFCFedora at least packages things rightJan 11 03:46
formic_those are all the real distros I can think ofJan 11 03:46
formic_everyone else just takes their work and slaps on a different labelJan 11 03:46
formic_Fedora does some good work, so does RHEL and ArchJan 11 03:47
DaemonFC[22:41] <dchinner> DaemonFC: https://github.com/crossmeta/sgiJan 11 03:47
DaemonFC[22:44] <dchinner> But I wouldn't bother trying to use it - the base XFS source is from about 2004Jan 11 03:47
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DaemonFChehJan 11 03:47
DaemonFC[22:46] <dchinner> perhaps even olderJan 11 03:47
DaemonFCFedora tries to build and package things as close to how upstream recommends as possibleJan 11 03:48
DaemonFCthey consider carrying their own downstream patches as a bad thingJan 11 03:48
formic_Slackware and Gentoo do as wellJan 11 03:48
DaemonFCUbuntu just chucks shit at their build system and hopes for the bestJan 11 03:49
formic_Debian and Ubuntu are probably the worstJan 11 03:49
DaemonFC[22:49] <DaemonFC> dchinner: Any particular reason why they'd base it on something so old?Jan 11 03:50
DaemonFC[22:50] <dchinner> I'd say the work was done that long ago, and they've recently ported it to windows 7 and someone has called them out on their GPL obligations....Jan 11 03:51
DaemonFC[22:51] <DaemonFC> * Copyright (c) 2001 Supramani Sammandam. suprasam _at_ crossmeta.orgJan 11 03:53
DaemonFC[22:52] <DaemonFC> https://github.com/crossmeta/sgi/blob/master/winnt/xfs_winnt.hJan 11 03:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: winnt/xfs_winnt.h at master from crossmeta/sgi - GitHub .::. Size~: 88.43 KBJan 11 03:53
formic_hmm interestingJan 11 03:53
formic_http://www.fuduntu.org/Jan 11 03:53
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DaemonFC[22:52] <dchinner> It's sufficiently old it doesn't support the features2 superblock field, which means it is useless for any XFS filesystem created in the past few years....Jan 11 03:53
formic_forked from fedora, no longer based on itJan 11 03:53
formic_kind of like how mandrake startedJan 11 03:54
DaemonFCfuduntu is made by those linsux peopleJan 11 03:54
DaemonFCit carries a lot of nonfree softwareJan 11 03:54
DaemonFCor open core stuff from Microsoft Tax companies  Jan 11 03:55
DaemonFClike Centrify Jan 11 03:55
formic_seriously?Jan 11 03:55
DaemonFCyeahJan 11 03:55
DaemonFCit's a pet project of one of the Linux HatersJan 11 03:56
DaemonFCthey used to call themselves that before LinsuxJan 11 03:56
DaemonFCthen OMGCHEESECAKEJan 11 03:56
DaemonFCit's not something you should trust as your operating systemJan 11 03:56
formic_it doesn't seem like anything you couldn't get out of rpmfusion anywayJan 11 03:56
DaemonFCthey claim they are a forkJan 11 03:57
DaemonFCin Fedora terminology they don't qualify as a spin because they contain software that's not part of FedoraJan 11 03:57
formic_interestingJan 11 03:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Does any man alive know what a late 20's woman or indeed much older looks like not shaved to look like a 16 year old?Jan 11 03:57
DaemonFCso they are a RemixJan 11 03:57
formic_heh they even include google spyware (chromium)Jan 11 03:58
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DaemonFC[22:56] <dchinner> DaemonFC: yeah, that's what I mean by the work being done long agoJan 11 03:59
DaemonFC[22:58] <DaemonFC> I wonder why he bothered to port that to Windows 7 without even getting it to work with file systems created by recent distributionsJan 11 03:59
formic_*this* is a distro - https://tails.boum.org/Jan 11 03:59
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DaemonFCChromium is free and open source softwareJan 11 03:59
formic_free and open source spywareJan 11 03:59
DaemonFC[22:58] <dchinner> More obvious reason: A customer updated their systemsJan 11 03:59
DaemonFC[22:58] <dchinner> s/more/mostJan 11 03:59
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formic_doesn't it phone home to google?Jan 11 04:00
formic_under the mask of 'safebrowsing'Jan 11 04:00
DaemonFCsure, but that can be disabled by the userJan 11 04:01
DaemonFCanything that phones home can be disabled, or not even built to begin withJan 11 04:02
formic_aiight, spyware that is easy to turn offJan 11 04:02
DaemonFC[22:59] <dchinner> it only supports 32 bit systems, tooJan 11 04:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsmag/@fsmag] Raspbery Pis are in the oven! I will _definitely_ get one! http://fsmsh.com/3673Jan 11 04:02
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DaemonFC[22:59] <dchinner> it only supports 32 bit systems, tooJan 11 04:04
DaemonFC[23:03] <DaemonFC> so long story short, it's basically just a quick and dirty port of old XFS code that only supports 32-bit Windows?Jan 11 04:04
DaemonFC[23:03] <dchinner> seems that wayJan 11 04:04
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scientesformic_, firefox also phones google, both with safe browsing and "search suggestions" in the search bar (easily turn-off and wont show with other search engines)Jan 11 04:24
scientesbut agreed, firefox is betterJan 11 04:25
scienteslike chromium's sync with google accounts is super-creepyJan 11 04:25
formic_scientes - about:config - search for google and clear out the urlsJan 11 04:26
scientesformic_, I know, I am just making a pointJan 11 04:26
formic_then there is epiphany,konquerer, links2Jan 11 04:27
DaemonFCmost browsers use suggestionsJan 11 04:27
scientesfirefox is the bestJan 11 04:27
DaemonFCeven Konqueror doesJan 11 04:27
formic_epiphany is really goodJan 11 04:27
scientesDaemonFC, not just from previous---but live from google's serversJan 11 04:28
scientesmeaning it sends what you are typing *as yuou are typing it*Jan 11 04:28
formic_yeah scary shitJan 11 04:29
scientesformic_, I _do_ use epiphany, but i find it kinda slow and weak in alot of edge casesJan 11 04:29
formic_slow?Jan 11 04:29
formic_webkit is a far faster rendererJan 11 04:29
scienteslike combo boxes dont have key-to-go, lots of critical usability stuff just isn't worked outJan 11 04:29
formic_everything should be exactly like it is in chromiumJan 11 04:30
scientesi mainly use it cause i'm too lazy to type firefox -ProfileManager --no-remoteJan 11 04:31
formic_theres also linksJan 11 04:31
formic_the text browser :)Jan 11 04:31
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formic_a little primitive but extremely safe with TORJan 11 04:32
scientesor konquorer, the base of webkit/safari/chromiumJan 11 04:32
formic_konquerer is notJan 11 04:32
scientesformic_, I would just use firefox with images, javascript, and plugins turned offJan 11 04:32
scientesin a sep browserJan 11 04:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The crisis in Nigeria: The 1st fruits of Qaddafi? http://t.co/uEJdXQy1 #occupynigeria #ows #occupyJan 11 04:32
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formic_khtml != webkitJan 11 04:32
scientesKHTMLJan 11 04:32
formic_webkit was forked a *long* time ago from khtmlJan 11 04:33
scienteswebkit was forked from KHTMLJan 11 04:33
formic_a long long long time agoJan 11 04:33
scientesinitiallyJan 11 04:33
formic_its different enough that they are seperate renderers nowJan 11 04:33
formic_you can get webkit support in konquerer but its not perfectJan 11 04:33
scientesim just saying cause kde never gets cfredit for thatJan 11 04:34
scientesits like webkit doesn't get credit for chromiumJan 11 04:34
formic_it doesn't matterJan 11 04:34
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formic_if they wanted the credit they wouldn't have used a permissive licenseJan 11 04:34
scientesand people who use OSX don't appreciate free software, when half of the damn system is free softwareJan 11 04:34
formic_well non technical people don't give a crapJan 11 04:35
scientesthats two differn't thingsJan 11 04:35
formic_look at vegans, people dont like them because they are picky and want to be all moral about their foodJan 11 04:35
scientesformic_, the issue I see is that technical people don't knowJan 11 04:35
scientesthose that are only working in one areaJan 11 04:36
formic_technical people do knowJan 11 04:36
scientesI am just adbvocating common curtesyJan 11 04:36
formic_if they don't, well they aren't technicalJan 11 04:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] In case you missed it yesterday: Media release: linux.conf.au 2012 set to shine in Ballarat http://t.co/rUIbNij6 #LCA2012Jan 11 04:37
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formic_webkit is pretty much a business effort, its paid for by a number of companiesJan 11 04:37
scientesI understandJan 11 04:38
scientesso is gecko, for the most partJan 11 04:38
formic_the only complaint i've heard from the khtml people is that they aren't paidJan 11 04:38
scientesmozilla is very commercial, while having their great commitment to open source and standardsJan 11 04:38
scienteswhich even got VP8 releasedJan 11 04:39
formic_gecko is paid for by googleJan 11 04:39
scientesformic_, I understand google and mozilla arrangementJan 11 04:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Interesting pre- !GPLv3 discussion on locked-down devices and #Linux http://ur1.ca/7eszwJan 11 04:39
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formic_when google decides not to anymore, whos nextJan 11 04:39
formic_microsoftJan 11 04:39
scientesanother reason to use firefoxJan 11 04:39
formic_google had to raise its contributionJan 11 04:39
formic_microsoft competed with themJan 11 04:39
formic_mozilla has no issues at all accepting microsofts moneyJan 11 04:40
DaemonFCit's all greenJan 11 04:40
scientesfor default search engine--yesJan 11 04:40
formic_you can even get a version of firefox bundled with bing insteadJan 11 04:40
scientesthey even tax evaded itJan 11 04:40
scientesformic_, where, i am interestedJan 11 04:41
formic_when you step back, mozilla is run by the same netscape scum that sold out to AOLJan 11 04:41
scientesi know the historyJan 11 04:41
scientesbut open source makes a differenceJan 11 04:42
formic_iceweasel =)Jan 11 04:42
scientesiceweasel is greatJan 11 04:42
formic_firefox also has a facist trademark policy, they insist unauthorized patches infringe its trademarkJan 11 04:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: US secretly backed Syrian opposition groups | Washington Post http://t.co/9VxPBMg7Jan 11 04:42
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scientesand so is mozilla's trademark policies, honestlyJan 11 04:42
scientesvlc has a huge problem with off-brandJan 11 04:43
formic_thats what i meanJan 11 04:43
formic_butJan 11 04:43
formic_firefox is the easiest browser to remove google fromJan 11 04:43
scientesof course that very off-brand problem is caused by googleJan 11 04:43
scientesand microsoftJan 11 04:43
scientesso it's one big circleJan 11 04:43
scientes--allowing for people to pay for those keyworksJan 11 04:44
scientesalso, by microsoft's lack of awesome package managementJan 11 04:44
formic_I bet the windows 8 store will only allow the firefox with bing to be listedJan 11 04:44
formic_or at the very least, that version will be on the topJan 11 04:44
scientesbut all this misses the big points: ref headers, third party cookies, forcing session cookies, and manual long-term overridesJan 11 04:45
formic_even if they need to astroturf the ratings system to get thereJan 11 04:45
scientesand people running their own servers, diaspora, identi.ca, email, XMPPJan 11 04:45
formic_I've been trying to remove google from my lifeJan 11 04:46
scientesformic_, you never even gave me the listJan 11 04:46
formic_what listJan 11 04:46
scientesyes, adblockplus is keyJan 11 04:46
formic_i'm just making a predictionJan 11 04:46
formic_adblockplus is only a partJan 11 04:46
scientesformic_, i mean link, to firefox with bingJan 11 04:46
scientesformic_, for getting rid of googleJan 11 04:46
formic_http://www.firefoxwithbing.com/Jan 11 04:47
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formic_?Jan 11 04:47
formic_i didnt link anything to get rid of googleJan 11 04:47
scientesthere is tons of it---font hosting, javascript hosting, google analytics, youtube, google adsenseJan 11 04:47
formic_its all in about:configJan 11 04:47
formic_then you use something called disconnectJan 11 04:47
formic_its an extensionJan 11 04:47
scientesformic_, no, not just from firefoxJan 11 04:47
scientesbut from your lifeJan 11 04:48
formic_it blocks all those tracking buttons people put on their sitesJan 11 04:48
scientesand all those embeds that connect to googleJan 11 04:48
formic_noscriptJan 11 04:48
formic_TORJan 11 04:48
scientesformic_, adblockplus easyprivacy is bestJan 11 04:48
formic_i2pJan 11 04:48
scientes+I am using "antisocial", cause i hate that shit too (facebook connect, etc)Jan 11 04:48
scientesTOR is too slow for meJan 11 04:49
formic_my only issue now is people uploading pictures of meJan 11 04:49
formic_TOR is slow, but its worth itJan 11 04:49
scientesfacebook facial recognitionJan 11 04:49
formic_in the future, your credit score might depend on using TORJan 11 04:49
scientesvery scaryJan 11 04:49
formic_google is working on facial recognition tooJan 11 04:49
scientesalso their voice recognition shitJan 11 04:50
scientesalso very creeptJan 11 04:51
formic_http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2011/07/26/f-vp-misener-google-facial-recognition-software.htmlJan 11 04:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google's foray into face recognition raises privacy concerns - Technology & Science - CBC News .::. Size~: 53.27 KBJan 11 04:51
formic_free e-mail: gmx.comJan 11 04:51
scientesany free email services that will host on your domain?Jan 11 04:51
scientescause i'm too cheap to get a VPSJan 11 04:51
formic_not sureJan 11 04:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] NYT Examiner files for information on US-NYTimes meetings over WikiLeaks http://t.co/uxF1W8E1Jan 11 04:52
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scientesgoogle is even running recapchaJan 11 04:53
formic_google messes with TOR usersJan 11 04:53
scienteshow?Jan 11 04:54
formic_most of the time it calls you a haxx0r and does the recapcha thingJan 11 04:54
scientesformic_, you should use scroogle.orgJan 11 04:54
scientesor ssl.scroogle.orgJan 11 04:55
formic_on tor i use ddgJan 11 04:55
formic_i should switch to scroogleJan 11 04:55
formic_didn't know about it till recentlyJan 11 04:55
formic_do they also run tor exit nodesJan 11 04:56
formic_it happens to speed up ddgJan 11 04:56
scientes<formic_> do they also run tor exit nodesJan 11 04:57
scientesnot sureJan 11 04:57
scientesbut they have a google collection of anti-google stuffJan 11 04:57
scientes*goodJan 11 04:57
formic_coolJan 11 04:59
formic_I might use them thenJan 11 04:59
formic_ever use the Tails distro ?Jan 11 04:59
formic_https://tails.boum.org/Jan 11 05:00
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scientesformic_, I don't use non-common distrosJan 11 05:00
scientesoh its liveJan 11 05:01
scientesmehJan 11 05:01
scientesstill--what is it based onJan 11 05:01
scientesif it isn't debian or fedora I have like zero interest in using it Jan 11 05:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Today marks 10 years of Guantanamo. 10 years of evading the law. 10 years of hiding people offshore. http://t.co/ub9HaWewJan 11 05:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Julian #Assange: Gillard govt 'unaccountable' | The Power Index http://t.co/CRSqJGZ4 #AusPol #WikiLeaksJan 11 05:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @sweet: "I want to make it clear that DRM is perfectly ok with Linux!" -- Linus Torvalds http://ur1.ca/7et34 #EPICFAILJan 11 05:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: .@HuffPostCanada: Like Ernest Hemingway? Help Preserve Canada's Public Domain http://t.co/4hPkhl30Jan 11 05:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Why does the Canadian Government consider "radical" a dirty word? http://www.ur1.ca/7ev5p !CDNpoli #greenJan 11 06:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Check out Mike Eisen's fantastic Op-Ed in NYTimes "Research Bought, Then Paid For" ht @SPARC_NA http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/11/opinion/reJan 11 06:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] This is a good start, Ontario: NEW 30% off Ontario Tuition http://www.ur1.ca/7dna1 ... free would be even betterJan 11 06:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @mlinksva A #noncommercial license deprecated http://ur1.ca/7evgx ...Jan 11 06:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Fake Photoshop commercial: http://www.ur1.ca/7evip #scaryJan 11 06:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Huzzah! Now can we get the OpenCourseWare Consortium to do something similar? !oerJan 11 06:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I've been having fun posting photos on tumblr. http://laurelrusswurm.tumblr.com/ Tagging images with !CC #by-sa doesn't get them indexed :(Jan 11 06:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Very tired... errands without end today... tomorrow back to ebook stuph (yay!)Jan 11 06:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] sleep beckons... so !tzaf & goodnight !identiverseJan 11 06:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Good morning all! Currently in the process of signing up at Jamendo http://ur1.ca/580jhJan 11 06:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] ÜBERG33k is already #22 in the Electronica chart http://is.gd/Iumvov today!Jan 11 06:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] TSA's brags about not catching any terrorists, proves its own irrelevance http://identi.ca/url/64396989Jan 11 06:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Inside NASA's Venus machine http://identi.ca/url/64397174 !scienceJan 11 06:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsmag/@fsmag] I am trying to do the impossible: A company, zero to operational and profitable, in 5 days with free software http://fsmsh.com/3672Jan 11 07:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻@Asher_Wolf Photographer behind iconic HOPE poster loses WH presspass after arrest for crime of filming cops in public http://t.co/Pz0hOnPRJan 11 07:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Really? "The Straits Times has always been the gold standard in journalism." NOT! http://ur1.ca/7exoc #fbJan 11 07:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Good idea - using GlusterFS as a dropbox clone. All FOSS. http://ur1.ca/7exq7 #fbJan 11 07:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Help! Linux ate my RAM! http://bit.ly/x91nce (from @gregkh on G+ http://bit.ly/ww8jpT )Jan 11 08:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] New #stable #linux #kernel up for review: 3.1.9 http://bit.ly/ys3iXB (might be the last 3.1 kernel) and 3.2.1 http://bit.ly/wPNIggJan 11 08:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Awesome stuff on here :) http://ur1.ca/7eyjbJan 11 08:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] CAcert Birds of a Feather #BOF session - http://bit.ly/xrNm9c #LCA2012 Many thanks Francois!Jan 11 08:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @unseenstudio: Like a refreshing winter breeze up yer kilt, #Crivins episode 5 is oot http://goo.gl/SvNGs #ccmusic #linuxJan 11 09:02
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MinceRgeekingsJan 11 09:05
prurigroyo MinceR Jan 11 09:06
prurigrowhatchya up to?Jan 11 09:06
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MinceRworkJan 11 09:07
prurigroshizzleJan 11 09:07
prurigroremember that dark net I was showing you the other day?Jan 11 09:07
MinceRyesJan 11 09:08
prurigrodiaspora loads through it rather nicely :)Jan 11 09:08
prurigrohttp://dpaste.org/CCSyg/Jan 11 09:08
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prurigrolittle step by step I cooked up, if you wanna playJan 11 09:08
MinceRnot yetJan 11 09:08
prurigrowell, work, likeyou sayJan 11 09:09
prurigrobut the instructions shouldn't change muchJan 11 09:09
prurigrothe developer was talking in a cjdns-enabled irc server with others using ipv4/ipv6 over the classic web tooJan 11 09:10
prurigroyou should give it a shot at some point, anywayJan 11 09:10
prurigroand on that note-- was about to head to bed, but figured I'd mentioned that firstJan 11 09:10
prurigrohave a good nightJan 11 09:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Microsoft and #SesameStreet create Kinect-based show http://goo.gl/tFDiw kinda like drug pushers - get em addicted youngJan 11 09:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Jim Whitehurst speaking at NIE about open source for education #fb http://ur1.ca/7ezw9Jan 11 09:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Help Stop #SOPA/#PIPA - http://bit.ly/xhB9fw wow: #WordPress just asked its 60 million users to join the fight. let's hope they doJan 11 09:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] The Open Source Way: collaboration #fb http://ur1.ca/7ezz0Jan 11 09:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Inside the Great Firewall of #China's #Tor Blocking - http://bit.ly/wG169W yikes: near real-time blocking (v @kyrah404 @Liberationtech)Jan 11 09:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Response to RFI on Public Access - http://bit.ly/AiCI10 sensible stuff from @wilbanks on saving #openaccessJan 11 09:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @glynmoody: Help Stop #SOPA/#PIPA - http://bit.ly/xhB9fw wow: #WordPress just asked its 60 million users to join the fightJan 11 09:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] At #CES, #Microsoft's Steve #Ballmer Strains for Relevance in Keynote - http://huff.to/AaZdor wonderful 1st par (v @Michael_French @tim)Jan 11 10:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ethical Oil and the Northern Gateway Pipeline Process - http://bit.ly/zndxjN has the Canadian government gone utterly bonkers? seems soJan 11 10:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Shared a post "Truer words were never spoken. "The Internet is just life. Life is filled with bozos. Ergo the Interne... http://b1t.it/asWyJan 11 10:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open Education and freedom to teach computing - http://bit.ly/Ae7tZv thoughtful post, as ever #ukJan 11 10:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Raspbery Pis are in the oven! - http://bit.ly/zAnUvU let's hope they cook this time #linuxJan 11 10:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Intel bets big on #Android and the smartphone ecosystem could benefit - http://tnw.co/wvgizh not good news for #microsoft...Jan 11 10:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Shared a post "Red Hat is searching for a C/Python programmer to join our Virtualization team in Brno. Please share!!"... http://b1t.it/asWKJan 11 10:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] BitTorrent Seeders Harrass Blackmail Victim, High Court Rules - http://bit.ly/xaOMEd interesting case - and precedentJan 11 10:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] It's CES and effectively noone cares what Microsoft has to say. And they don't have much to say anyway, as it seems. #TimesAreChanging :-)Jan 11 10:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Aposta no software livre - http://bit.ly/AfAVJU good to see women in #opensource getting some attention #brazilJan 11 10:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels nowJan 11 10:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels nowJan 11 10:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Oh Google. Why does it take you sooooooo long to roll out the new google bar? I guess we will never see it. And honest... http://b1t.it/asXdJan 11 10:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] BrowerLinux: A Linux Distro For The Sole Purpose Of Browsing The Web http://is.gd/ifmhk1 #gnu #linuxJan 11 10:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] We should add others we know ♻ @guido: Map of Free Software usage and development in the Germany government: http://ur1.ca/7eh5k !fsfeJan 11 10:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #EXT4 Gains New Online Resize Support In Linux 3.3 http://is.gd/49kyNM #linux #kernelJan 11 10:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #RaspberryPi bids for success with classroom coders http://is.gd/I4Uy46 http://is.gd/ixdxEe #linuxJan 11 10:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fedora 17 Has More Features: GIMP 2.8, GCC 4.7, oVirt, Etc http://is.gd/ajUu5Z #fedora #gnu #linux #redhatJan 11 10:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How To Install Ubuntu TV From A PPA http://is.gd/uhi0GS #ubuntuJan 11 10:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] FXI Technologies' Cotton Candy: #Android 4.0 and #Ubuntu on the world's smallest PC (hands-on) http://is.gd/3vLXr9 #linuxJan 11 10:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz How To Install Ubuntu TV From A PPA http://is.gd/uhi0GS #ubuntuJan 11 10:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @kirschner We should add others we know ♻ @guido: Map of Free Software usage and development in the Germany government: http://ur1.ca ...Jan 11 10:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Fedora 17 Has More Features: GIMP 2.8, GCC 4.7, oVirt, Etc http://is.gd/ajUu5Z #fedora #gnu #linux #redhatJan 11 10:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @glynmoody Help Stop #SOPA/#PIPA - http://bit.ly/xhB9fw wow: #WordPress just asked its 60 million users to join the fight. let's hope ...Jan 11 11:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz #EXT4 Gains New Online Resize Support In Linux 3.3 http://is.gd/49kyNM #linux #kernelJan 11 11:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz BrowerLinux: A Linux Distro For The Sole Purpose Of Browsing The Web http://is.gd/ifmhk1 #gnu #linuxJan 11 11:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Asus spins more Tegra 3 tablets, starting at just $249 http://is.gd/st7kvS #asus #linux #tegraJan 11 11:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] OPENBYTES: Solar powered Kindle case revealed at CES - http://ur1.ca/7f239 #kindle #ces #linuxJan 11 11:01
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Asus spins more Tegra 3 tablets, starting at just $249 - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 56.74 KBJan 11 11:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Solar powered Kindle case revealed at CES « OpenBytes .::. Size~: 39.24 KBJan 11 11:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Interview with Brian Alleyne, Sociologist Studying KDE http://is.gd/PSvPkx #kde #linuxJan 11 11:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz FXI Technologies' Cotton Candy: #Android 4.0 and #Ubuntu on the world's smallest PC (hands-on) http://is.gd/3vLXr9 #linuxJan 11 11:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Interview with Brian Alleyne, Sociologist Studying KDE | KDE.news .::. Size~: 31.76 KBJan 11 11:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @jwildeboer It's CES and effectively noone cares what Microsoft has to say. And they don't have much to say anyway, as it seems. #Tim ...Jan 11 11:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @jwildeboer Shared a post "Red Hat is searching for a C/Python programmer to join our Virtualization team in Brno. Please share!!"... ...Jan 11 11:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @glynmoody #Intel bets big on #Android and the smartphone ecosystem could benefit - http://tnw.co/wvgizh not good news for #microsoft...Jan 11 11:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @glynmoody Open Education and freedom to teach computing - http://bit.ly/Ae7tZv thoughtful post, as ever #ukJan 11 11:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] voted for "No"Jan 11 11:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @glynmoody Inside the Great Firewall of #China's #Tor Blocking - http://bit.ly/wG169W yikes: near real-time blocking (v @kyrah404 @Li ...Jan 11 11:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @harishpillay Good idea - using GlusterFS as a dropbox clone. All FOSS. http://ur1.ca/7exq7 #fbJan 11 11:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LibreOffice Firms Up, Drops Half Its Excess Weight http://is.gd/yBtQDE #oracleJan 11 11:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LibreOffice Firms Up, Drops Half Its Excess Weight | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 81.21 KBJan 11 11:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "[Oracle] appliance...incorporates Cloudera's [GNU/Linux] Distribution including Apache Hadoop with Cloudera Manager..." http://is.gd/yYOGTAJan 11 11:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Tizen Project Releases Preview of OS Source Code http://is.gd/tSSORW king of the mobile jungle?Jan 11 11:12
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schestowitz http://identi.ca/notice/88443853Jan 11 11:22
schestowitzEngrishJan 11 11:22
schestowitz"We’ve started manufacture!"Jan 11 11:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Nuance Announces Dragon Go! For Android, Throws Its Hat In As A Siri Competitor http://is.gd/8TjgpR probably works better too. #androidJan 11 11:29
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schestowitzOttawa prepares to launch anti-spam centreJan 11 11:31
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/uspto/status/155377835194859521Jan 11 11:31
TechrightsBot-tr@uspto: We've published proposed rules to implement 4 America Invents Act provisions. We seek your comments. http://t.co/sT1kliqf #patentJan 11 11:31
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schestowitzI didn't know the USPTO scum had a twitter accountJan 11 11:31
schestowitzNow I can highlight themJan 11 11:31
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/gibus/status/155727422342447104Jan 11 11:37
TechrightsBot-tr@gibus: @VisaePatentes the presidency can do whatever it want, If it refuses to see major legal & political deficiencies of the proposal, it is deadJan 11 11:37
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/VisaePatentes/status/155659283361562624Jan 11 11:39
TechrightsBot-tr@VisaePatentes: #DK #EU Presidency will carry forward efforts to introduce #UnitaryPatent and #UnifiedPatentCourt: #GoodLuck http://t.co/E277aTUi @eu2012dkJan 11 11:39
schestowitzFor shameJan 11 11:39
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/EUCouncilPress/status/155613310258118656Jan 11 11:40
TechrightsBot-tr@EUCouncilPress: “@eu2012dk: Danish Government presented #eu2012dk programme: "Europe at work". Read it in full here: http://t.co/s0zYQo1d” #eucouncilJan 11 11:40
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iophkSchestowitz: that link is broken as far as I can tell.Jan 11 11:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] Some photos of the #LCA2012 @BallaratUni residences with thanks to @steve_evlJan 11 12:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The cookie trick works for me. Now I have the "new" google bar. http://ur1.ca/7f3fd... http://b1t.it/asZEJan 11 12:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzag Identizens.Jan 11 12:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Onschuldige aanbieders van volledig Legale Vrije Software, films en muziek worden de dupe van het The Piratebay verbod #censuurJan 11 12:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Wellicht kunnen we onze computers maar beter dumpen en communiceren rooksignalen, of heeft iemand daar al patent op?Jan 11 12:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Hmmm... Note to self. While trying to work something out for yourself is good there is a cut off point and search.Jan 11 12:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] TeK >  #Rússia avança com plataforma de software livre - #flossfiles | e nós a vê-los passar....grandes bestas pá! http://goo.gl/NBFKtJan 11 12:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Oriol Mirosa Interview with Brian Alleyne, Sociologist Studying !KDE http://goo.gl/F62SqJan 11 12:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TeK > Notícias > Computadores > Rússia avança com plataforma de software livre .::. Size~: 44.91 KBJan 11 12:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Oracle in hot water with !Java makers - Jigsaw can't find the corners - conflicts with the OSGi module system http://goo.gl/2IsfkJan 11 13:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @neustradamus !Oracle VM !VirtualBox 4.0.16 build 75491 has been released ( !virtualization ) http://ur1.ca/36hzJan 11 13:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] http://identi.ca/url/64374387 and one my favorite albums, http://identi.ca/url/64374389Jan 11 13:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Music industry launches new High Court action against state - http://bit.ly/w9dmjZ cheeky, but no surprise (v @MsLods @tjmcintyre) #irelandJan 11 13:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Up surprisingly early today. Got to #FSF at 7:35am.Jan 11 13:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Interesting episode of This American Life about Apple (but other tech companies too) and the conditions in factories in China ur1.ca/7f505Jan 11 13:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Re balance between persisting and searching. Thanks James Lorenzen. http://ur1.ca/7f521Jan 11 13:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !WordPress The Latest Tech Company To Come Out Strongly Against #SOPA, #PIPA - Techdirt http://ping.fm/QMctrJan 11 13:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] What ever happened to openid? http://ping.fm/8aLQyJan 11 13:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Removing barriers to #eCommerce in the EU:x-border payment,delivery, #broadband infrastr http://p.ost.im/p/eaQ76uJan 11 13:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Commission launches action plan to double e-Commerce by 2015 http://t.co/fps3L0MS http:/ http://p.ost.im/p/eau3McJan 11 13:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Wow: Gove mentioned Raspberry Pi & wikis in his #digitalliteracy speech, & said "In an open-source world" - http://bit.ly/ws2TDzJan 11 13:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @dvdeurse: Great news! RT @tomayac: Yay! #MediaFragments support has landed in #Chromium, too after http://ur1. ...Jan 11 13:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @zoobab: Microsoft lobbying for royalties in "Open" standards, so that citizens all pay the bill at http://ur1. ...Jan 11 13:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @epsiplatform: We'll support and be there RT @PuntoGov: 1st International Workshop on #OpenData to b http://ur1. ...Jan 11 13:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @PaulZH Oh! Anything that might be of our interest?Jan 11 13:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @dvdeurse @paulzh I do! Keep me postedJan 11 13:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @peterdedecker keep us posted ;)Jan 11 13:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @peterdedecker Geen #opendata?Jan 11 13:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @TruiMoerkerke: 2012: 'Jonge entrepreneurs zijn de nieuwe rebellen' http://t.co/VD8CAQlh via @KnackWeekendJan 11 13:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Choisissez Big things? Zie maar dat ik niet teleurgesteld ben als het maar iets klein is. #ikbeneenverwendnest ;)Jan 11 13:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Corel ‘AfterShot Pro’ Brings Lightroom Competitor to !Linux http://ping.fm/ndHxrJan 11 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsmag/@fsmag] Profitable in 5 days wit hfree software: A corporate web site in 5 days http://fsmsh.com/3676Jan 11 13:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Corel ‘AfterShot Pro’ Brings Lightroom Competitor to Linux .::. Size~: 33.08 KBJan 11 13:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] YouTube Lens Adds MiniTube Playback Option http://ping.fm/XQCjDJan 11 13:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Weird to think that most of my favorite Joy Division songs aren't on either of their albums.Jan 11 13:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] The Kabambe 3 G seems to be out of stock at all Safcom outlets :-( @SafaricomLtd kindly confirm cc @eebrahJan 11 13:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] As they say everything is easy when you know how. Or someone else does. #cooperationJan 11 13:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @netivity Yep,we're G'd up! Check out our Google+ page http://ur1.ca/7e4pu or simply search netivity on Google+. We're +Netivity Inte ...Jan 11 14:08
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schestowitz[14:08] <missing_from_log> [13:54] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [nj3ma/@nj3ma] The Kabambe 3 G seems to be out of stock at all Safcom outlets :-( @SafaricomLtd kindly confirm cc @eebrahJan 11 14:10
schestowitz[14:08] <missing_from_log> [13:54] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [satipera/@satipera] As they say everything is easy when you know how. Or someone else does. #cooperationJan 11 14:10
schestowitz[14:08] <missing_from_log> [14:01] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [opensourceway/@opensourceway] If you want a culture of collaboration, you need to accept the LOLCats too by @sradick |  http://red.ht/xdIb4j #opensourceJan 11 14:10
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schestowitzodd thing happend in plasma after I had add some odd plasmoidJan 11 14:10
schestowitzSome proprietary extensions for dynamic wallpaperJan 11 14:10
schestowitzThese caused instabilityJan 11 14:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Recognition that free software is a political motivation for many. http://identi.ca/url/64416529Jan 11 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] On #nairobilug cc @tcsmola @fredmanglis @eebrah @kelzokoJan 11 14:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Social overload: My social networking browser window now permanently has 6 tabs open. On G+,irc,twitter,identi.ca and diaspora all the timeJan 11 14:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @glynmoody Wow: Gove mentioned Raspberry Pi & wikis in his #digitalliteracy speech, & said "In an open-source world" - http://bit.ly/ ...Jan 11 14:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @glynmoody Raspbery Pis are in the oven! - http://bit.ly/zAnUvU let's hope they cook this time #linuxJan 11 14:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @glynmoody "#Firefox for Enterprises" begins with Firefox 10 - http://bit.ly/yI1G8a wise move #mozillaJan 11 14:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] My genic capture article is too technical at the moment ;) http://ur1.ca/7f6f0 !biologyJan 11 14:21
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nj3maHi everyone . How's the new year treating ya?Jan 11 14:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Transfer auxilliary power to the structural integrity field of the coffee table. Hey! That does not work.Jan 11 14:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Apologies to non Dutch speaking followers. The Dutch Internet community is furious! We're screwed by a MAFIAA supporting incompetent Judge!Jan 11 14:28
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schestowitzhmm,... nj3ma was here, didn't noticeJan 11 14:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Students break record by folding toilet paper 13 times - http://bit.ly/zNOhpa think you can do better? you're probably wrong...Jan 11 14:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] This is kinda nice. Two hours in the office by myself at the start of the day :)Jan 11 14:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In #KDE 4.4 (Kubuntu LTS) plasma-desktop decided to commit suicides repeatedly for _a week_. Had to wipe settings, start from scratch. :/Jan 11 14:50
iophkhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2012/jan/11/digital-literacy-michael-gove-speechJan 11 14:50
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iophk"In an open-source world, why should we accept that a curriculum is a single, static document?"Jan 11 14:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Occasionally, to be fair, some stuff in GNU/Linux can waste hours of one's time. But in Windows this happens_far_too often (defrag, viruses)Jan 11 14:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "An Open-Source World"? Where's The Open Source? - http://bit.ly/yh71YT the elephant/penguin in the room #education #gove #ukJan 11 14:51
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schestowitziophk: thanks, good oneJan 11 14:52
iophkIt still wastes column space on Bill and Zuckerberg.  I'd think that there'd be more attention paid to Tim Berners-Lee and others that actually contributed to the world.Jan 11 14:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Last week I decided to reduce my use of LaTeX and use direct HTML more often. PDFs (print as medium) are the past, the Web is the future.Jan 11 14:53
XFaCEschestowitz: You hear about the new lightweight QT environment?Jan 11 14:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Biometrics in Argentina: Mass Surveillance as a State Policy - http://bit.ly/xFYrB4 bad things happening; need to be resisted or will spreadJan 11 14:55
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oiaohmXFaCE: so you heard about the big qt refactorJan 11 14:55
oiaohmXFaCE: did you hear about the kdelibs reduction as wellJan 11 14:55
XFaCEoiaohm: If you mean razor-qt, then yes; did not know of any reduction of anything :PJan 11 14:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] gladly - done; sounds bad...Jan 11 14:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RD @SafaricomLtd @nj3ma Sadly yes it is out of stock. Good evening. ^LM cc @eebrahJan 11 14:56
schestowitzXFaCE: I thought about trying it on DebianJan 11 14:57
schestowitzIs it on squeeze repos?Jan 11 14:57
oiaohmXFaCE:  http://community.kde.org/KDE_Core/Platform_11/Eliminating_Duplication_With_Qt  This is part of the work leading up to KDE 5.0Jan 11 14:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The coming war on general-purpose computing (Cory Doctorow): http://bit.ly/y83vuJJan 11 14:58
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oiaohmXFaCE: basically KDE is going on a diet.Jan 11 14:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Public domain is under attack in Canada http://is.gd/SGcB9h http://is.gd/zuf2cT http://is.gd/RYDJh9 credit to @mgeistJan 11 15:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @glynmoody "An Open-Source World"? Where's The Open Source? - http://bit.ly/yh71YT the elephant/penguin in the room #education #gove #ukJan 11 15:01
schestowitzhey nj3maJan 11 15:01
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oiaohmcontrol the schools control the futureJan 11 15:02
cubezzznah, control the net control the future :)Jan 11 15:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Correct people who say "I studied/did not study computers at school" when they refer to memorising application menus. It's not computers.Jan 11 15:03
MinceRWho controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past.Jan 11 15:03
cubezzzIs that a Dune quote? Jan 11 15:03
cubezzzseems familiarJan 11 15:03
MinceRno, it's from 1984Jan 11 15:03
iophk"Open source is a perfect fit for teaching about computers, something  that ought to be proclaimed loudly from every school rooftop"Jan 11 15:03
cubezzzahJan 11 15:03
schestowitzHNYJan 11 15:04
MinceRC&C:RA has a variant of it thoughJan 11 15:04
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cubezzzabout that, what schools do use open source?Jan 11 15:04
schestowitzhe left again, probably the connection in KenyaJan 11 15:04
cubezzzI've been out of school a long timeJan 11 15:04
iophkOpenBSD is nearly a perfect teaching environment, what with it being designed to be built from source, upgrades distributed as diffs, emphasis on correct design and excellent documentation.Jan 11 15:04
schestowitzit's not just open sourceJan 11 15:04
schestowitzteaching firefox ain't good eitherJan 11 15:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] it does...? er, why?Jan 11 15:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Kindergarten teaches more computing than schools these days. At kindergarten kids are taught QWERTY and mousing, not $vendor methods.Jan 11 15:05
schestowitzthey need to be equipped with generic methodsJan 11 15:05
schestowitzStuff they can applyJan 11 15:05
schestowitznot rememberJan 11 15:05
schestowitzlike ways of lateral thinkingJan 11 15:05
MinceRclass Firefox : public WebBrowser;Jan 11 15:05
cubezzzactually in the old days they just taught abstract ideas, not specificsJan 11 15:05
iophkThinking, lateral or not, seems to be considered dangerous since long ago.Jan 11 15:05
schestowitz"The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education." -Albert EinsteinJan 11 15:05
schestowitzIn his time, it was all memorisingJan 11 15:05
schestowitzBecause of the tools they had usedJan 11 15:06
cubezzzthey wouldn't just use windows...Jan 11 15:06
schestowitzHe went to a Catholic schoolJan 11 15:06
schestowitzApparently bored by their way of teachingJan 11 15:06
cubezzzwhose time?Jan 11 15:06
cubezzzEinstein's?Jan 11 15:06
schestowitzlate 1800sJan 11 15:06
schestowitzin GermanyJan 11 15:06
schestowitzHe later moved to BaselJan 11 15:06
cubezzzcould be, but that is still with usJan 11 15:06
oiaohmMinceR: and if you control what a person knows about the past you can effect there selection methods.Jan 11 15:07
schestowitz"Education is what remains after one has forgotten everything he learned in school." he saidJan 11 15:07
schestowitzwhich is quite trueJan 11 15:07
cubezzzsometimes I think teachers obfuscate rather than illuminate :)Jan 11 15:07
schestowitzmost people don't even recall the geometry they learned at schoolJan 11 15:07
schestowitzI don'tJan 11 15:07
schestowitzexcept the intuitionJan 11 15:07
cubezzzI doJan 11 15:07
cubezzzit's my hobby Jan 11 15:07
schestowitzI usually don't; remember my own phone numberJan 11 15:07
schestowitzor others'Jan 11 15:07
schestowitzNo need if you can look it upJan 11 15:07
schestowitzA lot of people waste effort memorisingJan 11 15:08
schestowitzmaps, numbers, facesJan 11 15:08
cubezzza part of learning is memorizing...Jan 11 15:08
schestowitzFaces you still can remember easily, the brain is well suited for itJan 11 15:08
schestowitzand it's needed for social reasonsJan 11 15:08
schestowitzBut the schools don't challenge or practice people's ability to have deep philosophical discussionJan 11 15:08
schestowitzThey just manufacture labour forceJan 11 15:08
schestowitzDumb, obedient peopleJan 11 15:08
schestowitzNot thinkers, not progressivesJan 11 15:09
schestowitzAnd politicians further encourage thisJan 11 15:09
cubezzzsomeone has to deal with the specificsJan 11 15:09
schestowitzConsumerism became a fashion ans pasttimeJan 11 15:09
schestowitzAnd some people just one's skills by how well they can "shop" and select itemsJan 11 15:09
cubezzzat the lowest level code is machine specificJan 11 15:09
schestowitzyeah, but that does not matter unless you're a compiler personJan 11 15:10
schestowitzyou might need to know this to realise why the binary won't run on all machinesJan 11 15:10
schestowitzOr how to choose the variable type to perform better on a certain plethora of machinesJan 11 15:10
schestowitzand how the compiler is likely to optimise it, if at allJan 11 15:10
cubezzzthere are people writing operating systems in assembly languages Jan 11 15:10
schestowitzchildren at school don't need to learn compilersJan 11 15:11
cubezzzI wrote assembly language programs myself not that long agoJan 11 15:11
schestowitzBut those who study computer science at school these day get Java or some bytecode paradigmJan 11 15:11
oiaohmcubezzz: and I laugh at people who write operating systems in assembly languagesJan 11 15:11
oiaohmDo you know why.Jan 11 15:11
cubezzzoiaohm, I didn't say _I_ did :)Jan 11 15:11
schestowitzkids who study ICT in schools should be given skills in Web searchingJan 11 15:11
schestowitzLike, wikipedia, search terms, common syntac like quotes and +/-Jan 11 15:11
oiaohmDo you think a X86 processor runs X86 code it is written in asm.Jan 11 15:12
MinceRoiaohm: they're not portable and the c compiler likely optimizes better than the kids do :>Jan 11 15:12
schestowitzThese are transferable skillsJan 11 15:12
cubezzzanyway oiaohm you need to look at the historical contextJan 11 15:12
schestowitzThey can also be given courses in advanced cutting and pasting, with stack and allJan 11 15:12
MinceRassembly also tends to be more costly to maintainJan 11 15:12
cubezzzit was doneJan 11 15:12
oiaohmMost cpu today rewrite code.Jan 11 15:12
iophkschestowitz: +/- don't seem to work on Google anymore.  The interface is less effective now.Jan 11 15:12
schestowitzThere are still some adults (or CS geezers) who coipy and paste by bringing up context menus and clicking stuff, wasting hours of their lives in vainJan 11 15:12
oiaohmSo compliers can be designed to rewirte the code to cope with the hell a cpu decided todo.Jan 11 15:13
schestowitzText editing can be improved tooJan 11 15:13
iophkYears ago Google even supported limited pattern matching.Jan 11 15:13
cubezzzeven part of windows is assembly language for that matterJan 11 15:13
schestowitzit's something everyone who writes documents could useJan 11 15:13
oiaohmcubezzz: very small.Jan 11 15:13
iophkYou could find things very quickly that way.  It's harder now.Jan 11 15:13
cubezzzlook at a lot of game code, there's usually _some_ assembly in thereJan 11 15:13
oiaohmcubezzz: Less than you will think.Jan 11 15:13
schestowitzUse of SHIFT and CTRL to navogate through text, PgDn/Up..Jan 11 15:13
oiaohmNormally by younger and more stupid developers cubezzzJan 11 15:13
oiaohmOlder game developers fix the complier not insert asm stuff.Jan 11 15:14
cubezzzoiaohm, you don't want your game to run slow :)Jan 11 15:14
cubezzzit's a basic thingJan 11 15:14
schestowitzEven one who goes into history/art could use those typing skills and it would not be app-specific, more like common conventionsJan 11 15:14
oiaohmWhy fix the complierJan 11 15:14
oiaohmcubezzz: you do asm you could end up slower than what the complier would have generated.Jan 11 15:14
oiaohmcubezzz: then how do you update the code.Jan 11 15:14
cubezzzthey usually don't botherJan 11 15:15
oiaohmAll you do by using asm in games is make your life hard.Jan 11 15:15
cubezzzonce it ships, it's doneJan 11 15:15
oiaohmReallyJan 11 15:15
oiaohmNoJan 11 15:15
cubezzzyesJan 11 15:15
oiaohmOld ideaJan 11 15:15
cubezzzI know :)Jan 11 15:15
MinceRah, the fire-and-forget project lifecycle model ;)Jan 11 15:15
cubezzze.g. Majesty Gold for LinuxJan 11 15:15
schestowitzaka windiwsJan 11 15:15
oiaohmIf you want to make money long term you will want a more maintainable code base.Jan 11 15:15
oiaohmcubezzz: ie steam and other groups will buy old games Jan 11 15:15
cubezzzoiaohm, just pointing out what happens, not saying it's idealJan 11 15:16
oiaohmold model does what you are saying cubezzzJan 11 15:16
oiaohmNewer models don't.Jan 11 15:16
oiaohmYou want to extract the most profit from the game.Jan 11 15:16
cubezzzalso the PPC port's were killedJan 11 15:16
cubezzznow it's all x86Jan 11 15:16
oiaohmNopJan 11 15:16
oiaohmPPC ports are still required for xbox360Jan 11 15:16
oiaohmAnd PS3Jan 11 15:16
cubezzzoh? I didn't know thatJan 11 15:17
oiaohmIBM provided the cpus to both of them.Jan 11 15:17
cubezzzwhat about Linux games on PC?Jan 11 15:17
cubezzzor are PC games going the way of the Dodo? :)Jan 11 15:18
oiaohmReally its the other way over.Jan 11 15:18
oiaohmLot of games are prototyped on Linux clusters.Jan 11 15:18
oiaohmthen ported else where.Jan 11 15:18
oiaohmThen Linux people dont' get game binarys.Jan 11 15:18
oiaohmYep evil but true.Jan 11 15:18
oiaohmcubezzz: this is the thing a non portable code base a game maker shots themselves in the foot.Jan 11 15:19
oiaohmPortable you can send the game out pc xbox ps3 phones .....Jan 11 15:19
oiaohmWhere ever someone will pay money for it.Jan 11 15:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Making it easier to buy online: #eu action plan for e-Commerce - http://bit.ly/zEY1Dg I see, so that more physical retailers fold, right?Jan 11 15:20
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oiaohmcubezzz: Only young game developers are stupid enought not to write portable code.Jan 11 15:20
cubezzzI'l mention that to the original pacman programmer :)Jan 11 15:21
oiaohmHe would have been young when he did that.Jan 11 15:21
schestowitzcubezzz: what year?Jan 11 15:21
cubezzzlate 1979Jan 11 15:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Notice & Action: EU Commission Must Put Freedom of Expression First - http://bit.ly/wLOBtS but won't... #censorshipJan 11 15:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @FFII How does more litigation imply more innovation?Jan 11 15:21
oiaohmBefore he knew the importance of cross platform.  cubezzzJan 11 15:21
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cubezzznot sure how old he was thoughJan 11 15:21
oiaohmcubezzz: everyone when they start out as a program has a stupid idea.Jan 11 15:22
oiaohmMy stupid idea could have been really a hazard.Jan 11 15:22
cubezzzz80 must have been good back then compared to other cpusJan 11 15:22
oiaohmI thought when young it would be possible to write a virus to counter viruses safely.Jan 11 15:22
schestowitz"first released in Japan on May 22, 1980" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PacmanJan 11 15:22
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cubezzzyes, but they have to develop the code well before the release dateJan 11 15:23
schestowitz"The game was developed primarily by a young Namco employee named Tōru Iwatani over the course of a year, beginning in April 1979, employing a nine-man team. It was based on the concept of eating, and the original Japanese title was Pakkuman (パックマン?), inspired by the Japanese onomatopoeic slang phrase paku-paku taberu (パクパク食べる?),[35][36] where paku-paku describes (the sound of) the mouth movement when widely Jan 11 15:23
schestowitzopened and then closed in succession.[37]"Jan 11 15:23
schestowitzYou're rightJan 11 15:23
schestowitzTōru Iwatani Jan 11 15:23
schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pacman-puckman.jpgJan 11 15:23
cubezzzI'm well familiar with the history of pacman Jan 11 15:24
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cubezzzToru was the designer only, not programmerJan 11 15:24
cubezzzI think the programmer's name is on wikipedia thoughJan 11 15:24
cubezzzShigeo FunkaiJan 11 15:25
schestowitz"@FFII the patent macrocosm is faith-based, not evidence-based"Jan 11 15:25
cubezzzPuckman had the cleanest code, it got hacked up a fair bit laterJan 11 15:25
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cubezzzproblem is, none of the pac games run natively on Linux :-/Jan 11 15:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @kristofvds hopelijk korrekt geschreven? ;)Jan 11 15:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @OKFN: wondering what the Open Knowledge Foundation is all about? see updated summary (and new site http://ur1. ...Jan 11 15:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @BartHanssens: European #opendata API's (EEA, air quality, etc) http://t.co/hrXxe3NxJan 11 15:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If patents (lawsuit enablers) encourage innovation, does having two nuclear stockpiles pointing at one another encourage innovation too?Jan 11 15:28
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TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Jan-12 15:24:17 UTC - Identi.ca: @Schestowitz It does not but everyone will have a job as a lawyer.Jan 11 15:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "The Manhattan Project... grew to employ more than 130,000 people" (and kill even more people) http://is.gd/p3PJwN could use brains betterJan 11 15:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Cult of Patents is a very dangerous thing. It became a sort of cartel, luring in few gullible scientists who realise they were fooled.Jan 11 15:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If the government (politicians) is the entertainment industry of the Military Industrial Complex, lawyers are the battalion of monopolists.Jan 11 15:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The legal system is sometimes right and sometimes wrong. What never changes, however, is that it always serves rich powerful people.Jan 11 15:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Meh. My #Chumby stopped working, wants to be reactivated but chumby.com is down? Hrmbl.Jan 11 15:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Cult of Patents parallels what we see happening due to the Copyright Cartel bullying its way into laws all around the world. #corruptionJan 11 15:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Don't, don't don't don't believe the hype.Jan 11 15:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Zend's developer cloud offers PHP/MySQL sandboxed deployments in a hosted environment (InfoWorld): http://bit.ly/w1EdCbJan 11 15:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Huzzah, progress I hope it is not a cul de sac.Jan 11 15:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] Interview with Brian Alleyne, Sociologist Studying !KDE → http://ur1.ca/7f7e9 !fs #sociology #societyJan 11 15:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] systemd v38 released http://ur1.ca/7f7feJan 11 15:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Dutch ISPs Ordered To Block The Pirate Bay - http://bit.ly/AzA2zT so it goes onJan 11 15:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] RT @kolabsys ♻ @univention: Certified for #UCS: Groupware #Kolab 2.3 for UCS 2.4 published, more: http://t.co/yUuoyNzPJan 11 16:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Planning on coming to LibrePlanet? Why not give a talk when you're here... http://identi.ca/url/64351104 !lp !fsf !gnu !ccJan 11 16:01
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/agonarch/status/157129952276385792?iid=am-66429244813262976748040334&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Jan 11 16:06
TechrightsBot-tr@agonarch: @schestowitz @FFII However, it appears to generate commercial value. Tighter, more realistic accountancy rules would helpJan 11 16:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Comcast -- Owner Of NBC Universal -- Admits That DNS Redirects Are Incompatible With #DNSSEC - http://bit.ly/yLvps4 important #sopaJan 11 16:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] AT&T Makes a Big Bet On Linux and Open Source in the Cloud - http://bit.ly/A0ygKq good analysisJan 11 16:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] RT @glynmoody "An Open-Source World"? Where's The Open Source? - http://bit.ly/yh71YT the elephant/penguin in the room #education #gove #ukJan 11 16:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] WordPress falling behind other blog tools (Kevin John Gallagher): http://bit.ly/zdnIaBJan 11 16:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] RT @kolabsys Want Free Software Groupware, but have to use Windows? New Kolab Client Rough Cut release w/many improvements http://is.gd/ ...Jan 11 16:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Big Switch open sources Floodlight, an Open Flow controller - http://bit.ly/wdKupM not sure what it does, but good to have...Jan 11 16:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @swersanne hou je ons heel goed op de hoogte van de vooruitgang? Mag direct naar board aŧ iRail.be als je wil :)Jan 11 16:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @swersanne @Stud_KHLim alright! Het gaat vooruit! #stumo - Wat is richtcijfer?Jan 11 16:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #China now has more than half a billion Internet users - http://tnw.co/Ab9iS5 how long before a billion?Jan 11 16:26
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iophkRaspberry Pi ought have a good market for terminal servers.  At $25 per unit, you can outfit the client side of a lab very inexpensively and use the money saved for better monitors or something else nice and visible.Jan 11 16:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsmag/@fsmag] Allwinner A10: More, powerful one-board computers running free software. The more the better, I'd say! http://fsmsh.com/3674Jan 11 16:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Breaking the rules of the Geneva Conventions is weak, per http://identi.ca/url/40775429Jan 11 16:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsmag/@fsmag] The adventure continues. #5daysprofitable: A corporate web site, start to finish, in 4 hours Web site, product: TICK http://fsmsh.com/3676Jan 11 16:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Cathy Casserly, Arne Duncan, great edu innovators participating in @SXSWEDU; OER track too. http://sxswedu.com/Jan 11 16:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsmag/@fsmag] If you have comments on the 4-hour site http://www.mobily1.com , please let us know! This is a pretty exciting experiment...Jan 11 16:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @evan Help support #PubSubHubbub at the W3C http://ur1.ca/7f8imJan 11 17:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] voted for "Yes"Jan 11 17:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Most of the FLOSS programs in Lisp or Scheme that I've seen are implementations. There are too many, and they're incompatible.Jan 11 17:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Unless there's overwhelming opposition, I am totally into this idea.Jan 11 17:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Does your local government promote meaningful citizen engagement? asks Paul Wolf | http://red.ht/wKtMuz #opengovJan 11 17:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @zoowar Poll: Should !identica join reddit on Jan 18 shutdown to protest SOPA & PIPA http://ur1.ca/7erzf http://ur1.ca/7erzgJan 11 17:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] That said, I think a tight event-based system like Node.js, in Scheme, could be aaaaawesome. #node.scmJan 11 17:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] '[…] #systemd v38 […] is out ; this is the first release to contain "the journal." […]' RT @lwnnet systemd v38 released http://ur1.ca/7f7feJan 11 17:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: MT @royalacademy David Hockney said about iPad “Picasso wd have gone mad with this, so http://p.ost.im/p/ea5YvBJan 11 17:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @OpenAccessEC: Open till 22 Feb is EC call for proposals "Scientific data: open access, dissemination, p http://p.ost.im/p/eaSXF7Jan 11 17:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: @amyjcolgan non-politics nerds too I hope (and maybe even some non-nerds) http://p.ost.im/p/eaYnj2Jan 11 17:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: NYTimes editorial on #openaccess to publicly funded research http://t.co/SGTMlB1E via @kcrews http://p.ost.im/p/eajascJan 11 17:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: today we launched action plan to double e-Commerce in Europe. BLOG: http://t.co/Dd3YWDtW http://p.ost.im/p/eaPsUDJan 11 17:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @oscon Time is running out! #OSCON call for speakers ends on Thurs 1/12. Get your session + tutorial ideas in soon http://bit.ly/vMpozdJan 11 17:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if Jan 18th is a coordinated #SOPA takedown protest day, my sites are gonna be included, I urge everyone to do the same inc #IdenticaJan 11 17:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] well, in my case it's switching into offline mode with an stop SOPA messageJan 11 17:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] ♻ @frankfurtine: this can't be shared often enough: Lockdown: The coming war on general-purpose computing - Boing Boing http://t.co/v5ajlsP9Jan 11 17:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Internal report shows US Army monitored Twitter/Facebook and media reportage of Manning pre-trial hearing.| Politico http://t.co/yKqzx82hJan 11 17:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The men from Clonezilla and Virtualbox they say yes! At bloody last.Jan 11 17:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Chinese Britons have put up with racism for too long http://gu.com/p/34t5eJan 11 17:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #BitTorrent Seeders Harrass #Blackmail Victim, High Court Rules http://goo.gl/9ty8LJan 11 17:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @arnebab “When in doubt, hire … programmers who …, who …, and who use !Emacs.” → http://ur1.ca/7f4o2Jan 11 17:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Today Julian Assange has been detained for 400 days without charge. http://t.co/h3BcA4pCJan 11 17:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] If SOPA's Main Target Is The Pirate Bay, It's Worth Pointing Out That ThePirateBay.org Is Immune From #SOPA http://goo.gl/nRxjjJan 11 17:51
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: If SOPA's Main Target Is The Pirate Bay, It's Worth Pointing Out That ThePirateBay.org Is Immune From SOPA | Techdirt .::. Size~: 74.64 KBJan 11 17:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] This Week in Censorship: Grave Threats to Netizens the World Over https://eff.org/r.5NU #China #Bahrain #Rwanda #Turkey #netfreedomJan 11 17:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] US Army closely monitored tweets from WikiLeaks court hearing | FDL http://t.co/JxqnZBBsJan 11 18:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Cloning both discs on the laptop. All I have to do then is find my missing USB stick and then all is well again.Jan 11 18:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @MohsinHijazee On most shorteners you can add a "+" to request the information first.Jan 11 18:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Wednesday's security updates http://ur1.ca/7f9z3Jan 11 18:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] private plastic surgeons pleading poverty over fixing their own PIP breast implant problems, after profiting from fitting them #govthandoutJan 11 18:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #NHS could pay for replacements, then charge the costs back to private clinics, spreading the cost if need beJan 11 18:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] why don't the govt insist that private clinics can't take on ANY new patients until they've cleared the replacements from previous patients?Jan 11 18:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "Nicotine, Valium, Vicodin, Marijuana, Ecstasy and Alcohol"Jan 11 18:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Christopher Hitchens versus God ur1.ca/7fa5c !atheismJan 11 18:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @forteller: Ubuntu Tablet to Compete with Android, iOS http://ur1.ca/7f8rbJan 11 18:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Are drones watching you? Surveillance drones will soon cause a myriad of privacy problems in the U.S. https://eff.org/r.2NQJan 11 18:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] That is the important disc cloned. Now for the..ahem..vista7 disc.Jan 11 18:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I love it when my timelines get filled with #FOSDEM stuff :-)Jan 11 19:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Tails 0.10 is out: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tails-010-outJan 11 19:16
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MinceRthe rubberstamp android which holds the title of President of Hungary is apparently a common-law criminal >> http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=hu&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fhvg.hu%2Fitthon%2F20120111_Schmitt_doktori_disszertacio_plagium   (hu) http://hvg.hu/itthon/20120111_Schmitt_doktori_disszertacio_plagiumJan 11 19:28
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MinceR(his crimes against humanity notwithstanding)Jan 11 19:29
cubezzzschestowitz, did you hear about the suicides at Foxconn?Jan 11 19:35
iophkI thought it was only threats of suicide.Jan 11 19:37
iophkhttp://www.tomshardware.com/news/Foxconn-Suicide-Apps-Xbox-SOny,14470.htmlJan 11 19:37
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cubezzzno they have already done it Jan 11 19:38
cubezzzthis is a threat of more to comeJan 11 19:38
iophkDo you have a source?  Subsequent articles seem to say that they have been talked down from the roof.Jan 11 19:38
MinceRsure, but in which direction? :>Jan 11 19:39
cubezzz"Foxconn's raised workers pay twice at its factory in Shenzhen, China in 2010 after a spate of suicides, Chinese state media reported at the time."Jan 11 19:39
iophk:)Jan 11 19:39
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cubezzzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn_suicidesJan 11 19:40
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chunklehey royJan 11 19:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is schestowitz from identi.ca with 77 dents!Jan 11 19:55
schestowitzhey mikeJan 11 19:57
schestowitzI've entered the Mr. Fitness contestJan 11 19:57
schestowitzHours agoJan 11 19:57
schestowitzBefore I went swimmingJan 11 19:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if #Liverpool can end tonight a couple of goals to the good, I reckoen they can kill City off in the 2nd leg to go throughJan 11 20:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻@ioerror In protest of #SOPA, @reddit goes black Jan 18. Will @wikipedia, @google, @twitter, @facebook, @foursquare, @myspace do the same?Jan 11 20:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Will @joindiaspora and @identica follow @reddit in anti-#SOPA blackout on #Jan18?Jan 11 20:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] were Balloteli's parents of the Nintendo generation? !footballJan 11 20:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @chalkahlom: I have to say - the latest episode of #crivins was particularly good.. :)Jan 11 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] would Nintendo sponsor a go-kart track at Balotelli's place? #SuperMarioKartJan 11 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] City need half time to regroup, if Liverpool can hit again before then it puts them in the driving seat of the tieJan 11 20:30
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formic_Foxconn "everyone gets a 200% raise!!! 1 cent per hour to 2 cents! Yahooo!"Jan 11 20:34
DaemonFCand mandatory don't kill yourself policyJan 11 20:35
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DaemonFCsuper happy don't kill yourself funtimeJan 11 20:37
DaemonFChttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/9006988/Mass-suicide-protest-at-Apple-manufacturer-Foxconn-factory.htmlJan 11 20:38
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DaemonFC"Around 150 Chinese workers at Foxconn, the world's largest electronics manufacturer, threatened to commit suicide by leaping from their factory roof in protest at their working conditions. "Jan 11 20:38
DaemonFC"The workers were eventually coaxed down after two days on top of their three-floor plant in Wuhan by Foxconn managers and local Chinese Communist party officials. "Jan 11 20:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] http://www.emprego.pt/ mas como raio é que são admitidos domínios deste tipo? Isto não vai contra as regras da FCCN?Jan 11 20:40
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DaemonFCanyway, that's the company that makes all Apple stuffJan 11 20:40
DaemonFC25,000 people quit each month, according to the articleJan 11 20:40
DaemonFCin other incidents, employees who asked not to be named, said that Apple's policies on how Foxconn treats their workers is a shamJan 11 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] "Free Culture" is quite a difficult search term to use effectively in the sense of !cc and public domain at least - ideas appreciatedJan 11 20:41
DaemonFCand that they get enough warning whenever Apple will be inspecting to plant to make the working conditions look alright, and to clean up the chunk of the factory to be inspectedJan 11 20:41
DaemonFCthe understanding between Apple and the exploitative government and employers in China is basically "We'll give you advance warning, make sure we don't have to look at any of what really goes on"Jan 11 20:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Debian Linux named most popular distro for Web servers, with CentOS as #2 (InfoWorld): http://bit.ly/yBZ8c6Jan 11 20:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Sticky tape assault officer George Stewart found guilty http://goo.gl/8vRa9 #PoliceJan 11 20:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Asian Companies Rival U.S. Patent Champs (PC World): http://bit.ly/z7VZoCJan 11 21:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Identica's blue army should have an #HPR roundtable episode on somethingJan 11 21:06
scientes"Jan 11 21:09
scientesElectioneering in the US is steadilyexpanding to fill more and more time and space even as it providesworse and worse results with each election cycle. The Congress ismade of some of the least popular people on earth, who are manifestlyincapable of achieving anything useful. They do seem quite ready andwilling to pass laws that erode human rights and enhance the powersof the police state, but this is because they are paranoid. Perhapstheir oJan 11 21:09
scientesne point of consensus is that sooner or later theirconstituents will want to open fire on them.Jan 11 21:09
scientes"Jan 11 21:09
scientes"watching the sad spectacle of Congress trying to raise the debt limit or to reign in runaway deficit spending should have taught them that this institution is no longer functional. (The US is about to bump up against the debt limit again; does anyone even care?) All of this should have been enough to make it clear to just about everyone that wondering what might be different if, say, Ron Paul got elected president, is like wondering what miJan 11 21:14
scientesght be different if the moon were made of a different kind of cheese—your favorite kind, of course."Jan 11 21:14
scienteslolJan 11 21:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] OPENBYTES: Scareware – Symantic come under fire. A sign of a struggling marketplace? http://ur1.ca/7fejr #windows #mcafee #symantecJan 11 21:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Diary of a geek - Breaking and entering, with permission http://ow.ly/8pttqJan 11 21:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux/Android Still Faces Proxy Challenge http://is.gd/YnSD0K #linux #android #swpatsJan 11 21:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #Linux #Android Still Faces Proxy Challenge http://is.gd/YnSD0K #mosaidJan 11 21:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Only Fools and Horses… Run Windows on the Server http://is.gd/JR3yvK #windows #linux #serverJan 11 21:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Only Fools and Horses… Run Windows on the Server http://is.gd/JR3yvK #microsoft #xboxJan 11 21:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Is your online bank vulnerable to currency rounding attacks? - #bankingsystem #security http://goo.gl/Oj0VBJan 11 21:30
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DaemonFCscientes: I wish I could manage my budget like the US government doesJan 11 21:30
scienteshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermin_SupremeJan 11 21:30
DaemonFCraise my own credit limitJan 11 21:30
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DaemonFCnot have near enough assets to ever pay it backJan 11 21:31
scientesahhhh, I now know why you were talking about people brushing their teethJan 11 21:31
DaemonFCnobody ever comes looking for their moneyJan 11 21:31
DaemonFCwhen they do, borrow from someone else to pay them so nobody panicsJan 11 21:31
MinceRlolJan 11 21:31
DaemonFCMinceR: I don't know what you're laughing aboutJan 11 21:32
MinceRVermin SupremeJan 11 21:32
DaemonFCmost governments do thatJan 11 21:32
DaemonFCjust not on the same scaleJan 11 21:32
MinceRa pity the democrats won't nominate himJan 11 21:32
DaemonFCMinceR: I'm going to vote in the Democratic primaryJan 11 21:33
MinceR:)Jan 11 21:33
DaemonFCsince we know it will be Obama anyway....Jan 11 21:33
DaemonFCI might as well vote for Vermin SupremeJan 11 21:33
MinceRthat confuses me a bitJan 11 21:33
DaemonFChuh?Jan 11 21:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Police system compromised due to parental spying - #germany #policestate #privacy http://goo.gl/84XNvJan 11 21:33
MinceRwhy vote if they're going to nominate obama?Jan 11 21:33
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MinceRhow do you know if they're going to nominate obama if there are primaries?Jan 11 21:33
DaemonFCMinceR: Because they hold one anyway even if it's already a given that the incumbent will winJan 11 21:33
MinceRare they doing it the commie way? :>Jan 11 21:33
DaemonFCthey ran a guy against Clinton who was in federal prisonJan 11 21:33
DaemonFCin 1996Jan 11 21:33
MinceRor just everyone believes so much in obama?Jan 11 21:34
DaemonFCMinceR: They run a set of joke candidates they know nobody will vote forJan 11 21:34
DaemonFCto make sure the incumbent winsJan 11 21:34
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MinceRand obama is not a joke candidate? :>Jan 11 21:34
DaemonFChe is, but he's the one they wantJan 11 21:34
MinceR:>Jan 11 21:34
DaemonFCso he'll winJan 11 21:34
DaemonFCthey'll make sure of itJan 11 21:35
MinceRit's a pityJan 11 21:35
DaemonFCbut the end count is still givenJan 11 21:35
MinceRVermin Supreme seems more likely to keep his promisesJan 11 21:35
DaemonFCso if I vote for Vermin Supreme, it will still show upJan 11 21:35
DaemonFCit will look like thisJan 11 21:35
DaemonFC95% Obama, 5% split between the othersJan 11 21:35
MinceRbig damn "democrat"sJan 11 21:36
DaemonFC"Yay, who saw that coming?"Jan 11 21:36
DaemonFC:)Jan 11 21:36
MinceRthen again, it's sad enough that the primaries matter at allJan 11 21:36
DaemonFCmost people won't even show up to vote in the primaries because of ObamaJan 11 21:36
MinceRthe race should be between parties that are truly different from each otherJan 11 21:36
DaemonFCso all the flunkies come out and make sure to vote ObamaJan 11 21:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Paul Dacre had hand in accusing Hugh Grant of smears, Leveson inquiry hears http://gu.com/p/34janJan 11 21:37
MinceRnot about who gets to lead the charade if one of the two parties winsJan 11 21:37
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DaemonFCMinceR: It's one of those things that Obama could technically loseJan 11 21:37
DaemonFCbut won'tJan 11 21:37
DaemonFCto make the system seem more democraticJan 11 21:37
DaemonFCnotice how there are no Democratic debates going on right now?Jan 11 21:37
MinceRwhy do usians want the appearance of democracy but not democracy itself?Jan 11 21:38
DaemonFCand Obama is already campaigning against all the possible Republicans at onceJan 11 21:38
MinceRyes, i didn't know they were even going to hold primaries at allJan 11 21:38
MinceRlet alone debatesJan 11 21:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] not sure 0-1 is going to be enough to take to Anfeild and see out the tie #Liverpool !footballJan 11 21:38
DaemonFCthe Republican debates are all you see right nowJan 11 21:38
DaemonFCbecause the Democrats are not having anyJan 11 21:38
MinceRhungarians apparently don't even want the appearance of democracyJan 11 21:38
DaemonFCbut the primary has to be heldJan 11 21:38
DaemonFCbecause it's the lawJan 11 21:38
MinceRicJan 11 21:38
DaemonFCso you go in there and it's Obama v. a bunch of people you've never heard ofJan 11 21:39
DaemonFChttp://www.fec.gov/pubrec/fe1996/presprim.htmJan 11 21:39
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DaemonFCClinton, Bill            D             243,588   80.65 Jan 11 21:40
DaemonFCUncommitted              D              45,764   15.15 Jan 11 21:40
DaemonFCLaRouche, Lyndon         D              12,686    4.20 Jan 11 21:40
DaemonFCuncommitted means nobody chose a candidate for presidentJan 11 21:40
MinceRgot itJan 11 21:40
DaemonFCthough they did vote in other primaries on the ballotJan 11 21:40
MinceRicJan 11 21:40
DaemonFCin Indiana, Clinton got 100%Jan 11 21:40
DaemonFCnobody else was allowed on our ballotJan 11 21:40
DaemonFCClinton, Bill            D             329,462  100.00 Jan 11 21:41
DaemonFC      Total Party Votes:               329,462 Jan 11 21:41
DaemonFChttp://www.fec.gov/pubrec/fe1996/presprim.htm#inJan 11 21:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Iran asks #UN to condemn killing of nuclear scientist - AlertNet - #stateterrorism #usa #israel http://goo.gl/sRJmhJan 11 21:41
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DaemonFCMinceR: Indiana law lets you write in a candidate on the primariesJan 11 21:41
DaemonFCbut nobody at the poll will tell you thatJan 11 21:42
DaemonFCso it almost never happensJan 11 21:42
DaemonFCnot even oneJan 11 21:42
MinceRis there a voting form?Jan 11 21:42
DaemonFCelectronicJan 11 21:42
DaemonFCif you want a write in, you have to ask for oneJan 11 21:42
MinceRhow do they hide the write-in option?Jan 11 21:42
DaemonFCthe ballot they give you would say for exampleJan 11 21:43
MinceRand who the hell thought it a good idea to allow making it not readily apparent in the first place?Jan 11 21:43
DaemonFCPick One:Jan 11 21:43
DaemonFCBarack ObamaJan 11 21:43
DaemonFCand then if nobody else got ballot access, that would be the end of itJan 11 21:43
DaemonFCso you have to go to someone running that polling placeJan 11 21:43
DaemonFCand ask them for a write in ballotJan 11 21:43
MinceRlameJan 11 21:43
DaemonFCour laws are designed to keep everyone but Democrats and Republicans outJan 11 21:44
DaemonFCbecause the laws were written by Democrats and RepublicansJan 11 21:44
DaemonFCMinceR: To get ballot access in Indiana, you have to gather at least 500 signatures from every one of the 92 countiesJan 11 21:45
DaemonFCand then you really need more because the election commission is ran by Democrats and Republicans and if they think they can challenge enough to get you under 500 in one county, they'll do itJan 11 21:45
DaemonFCand that's just one stateJan 11 21:46
DaemonFCout of 50Jan 11 21:46
DaemonFCand some of them are harder to get ballot access inJan 11 21:46
DaemonFCIndiana is actually one of the easier onesJan 11 21:46
DaemonFCthen you have to go through DC itselfJan 11 21:46
DaemonFCbecause they have 3 electoral votesJan 11 21:46
DaemonFConly the Democrats and Republicans have the resources to get ballot access in all 50 states and DCJan 11 21:47
DaemonFCso Vermin Supreme might only be on the ballot in New Hampshire Jan 11 21:47
DaemonFCobviously even if he won, that would only end up hurting Barack ObamaJan 11 21:48
DaemonFCbecause it would deny him the electoral votes of New Hampshire in the general electionJan 11 21:48
DaemonFCunless he convinced his supporters there to do a massive write in campaignJan 11 21:48
DaemonFCthen after the primary and before the general election, you have to start all over againJan 11 21:48
DaemonFCgiving you between May and October to gather petitions to get on the general election ballotJan 11 21:49
DaemonFCin some states anywayJan 11 21:49
DaemonFCso the process is so horrible, that I think the best the Libertarian party has ever managed was general election ballot access in 38 statesJan 11 21:50
DaemonFCand they'd basically have to win in all of themJan 11 21:50
DaemonFCbecause some of the larger states with more votes didn't let them inJan 11 21:50
DaemonFCMinceR: Then in the rare case that an outsider gets into the House or Senate, it's because they had to give up and run as a Republican or Democrat to get thereJan 11 21:52
DaemonFCand the "welcoming committee" threatens to shoot down any legislation that they bring up unless they vote with the Democrats or Republicans on every issueJan 11 21:52
DaemonFCit's guaranteed to keep outsiders outside, and if they get in, to turn them into a puppetJan 11 21:53
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DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_UpdikeJan 11 22:03
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DaemonFCschestowitz: Someone deleted himJan 11 22:03
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farmer_%28surname%29Jan 11 22:05
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DaemonFCmy surname comes from collecting taxes? oh noJan 11 22:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Photo of Albert Einstein's office, taken the day he died (Imgur): http://bit.ly/zz0BgbJan 11 22:40
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MinceR"if a cluttered desk signifies a cluttered mind, then what does an empty desk signify?"Jan 11 22:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Firefighters For #SOPA (Again): The Congressional Fire Services Institute Rehashes Cliches And Debunked Anecdotes - http://bit.ly/wdzvmPJan 11 22:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] For the 10th anniversary of opening of #Gitmo, we want @BarackObama to #CloseGitmo. http://ur1.ca/7fd2eJan 11 22:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Unnatural selection: Is evolving reproductive technology ushering in a new age of #eugenics? - The Globe&Mail http://goo.gl/xC9gL #scitekJan 11 22:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Danish Presidency Wants to Open Europe to Patent Trolls and Software Patents, Italy Reportedly Surrenders http://is.gd/WJqZNu #eu #italyJan 11 22:52
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schestowitzEU Presidency Wants to Open Europe to Patent Trolls and Software Patents, Italy Reportedly Surrenders http://is.gd/WJqZNu #swpatsJan 11 22:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Hoje na Worten vi cartaz a informar que em virtude da procura, só vendem 3 discos rígidos por cliente... #pl118 #mafiaa #ptJan 11 22:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] EU Presidency Wants to Open Europe to Patent Trolls and Software Patents, Italy Reportedly Surrenders http://is.gd/WJqZNu #swpatsJan 11 22:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Debian passes #CentOS as most popular Linux for web servers - The H Open Source http://goo.gl/Q8vf0 :) #floss #gnulinux #statsJan 11 23:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Weird. Load balancer threw a conniption about Identica.Jan 11 23:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] BBC Censoring Open Source http://is.gd/b8wAfT and British taxpayers pay for this?!Jan 11 23:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Danish Presidency Wants to Open Europe to Patent Trolls and Software Patents, Italy Reportedly Surrenders http://is.gd/WJqZNu #eu #italyJan 11 23:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Delivering a Mozilla Firefox Extended Support Release http://is.gd/bmR3QQ good stuff from #mozillaJan 11 23:43
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schestowitzIs it called after the man?Jan 11 23:44
schestowitzWho was captured by the Russian as "spy" because of WW1?Jan 11 23:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[hisdudeness/@hisdudeness] #Exxon betreibt heute bereits !fracking in #Deutschland (ca. ab 60 min) http://ur1.ca/7fhtw !Umwelt !FoodAndWaterJan 11 23:50
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sebsebsebschestowitz: oh that's ashame, Identica seems to be having issues agianJan 11 23:51
sebsebsebschestowitz: loading pages Jan 11 23:51
sebsebsebor for me anywayJan 11 23:51
schestowitzyeahJan 11 23:51
schestowitzI dented about it a moment agoJan 11 23:52
sebsebsebschestowitz: ok so dents are working, but not the pages?Jan 11 23:52
schestowitzor something like thatJan 11 23:52
sebsebsebschestowitz: also apparnatly   schools in Engalnd and Wales, and I guess Scotland evenJan 11 23:52
sebsebsebschestowitz: are going to have more controlJan 11 23:52
sebsebsebwhen it comes to what they teachJan 11 23:52
sebsebsebwhen it comes to ITJan 11 23:52
schestowitzyeahJan 11 23:56
schestowitzkids don't learn computingJan 11 23:56
schestowitzthey won't make jobsJan 11 23:56
schestowitznever mind getting hirdJan 11 23:57
schestowitzhiredJan 11 23:57
schestowitzby making their own companiesJan 11 23:57
schestowitzand creating ITJan 11 23:57
sebsebsebschestowitz: yeah saw something on BBC about what I was on about  not this morning, but hte one before, or whateverJan 11 23:57
sebsebsebwhenever it wasJan 11 23:57
schestowitzspeaking for myself, I was involved in it as a kid, but it wasn't part of theschool curriculumJan 11 23:57
sebsebseband some school in WalesJan 11 23:57
sebsebsebwas usingJan 11 23:57
schestowitzToday i got an easy project to do for a client..Jan 11 23:57
sebsebsebXbox's to make music or somethingJan 11 23:57
schestowitzwith FOSSJan 11 23:57
sebsebseboh?Jan 11 23:57
schestowitzYou can create sites with FOSS in a few hoursJan 11 23:58
schestowitzeasy moneyJan 11 23:58
schestowitz"Setting up a site involves registering a domain and paying for hosting. I know a host that charges 12 pounds a year for hosting (I have 10 sites with him, since 2003) and domains cost about 35 pounds for two years. A simple Web site would take me just hours to set up (I have done this since 1998) and I bill at around 10 pounds per hour, so domain for 2 years, hosting for 1 year and full Web design work should in total cost less than Jan 11 23:58
schestowitz100 pounds, perhaps 90 pounds (and negotiable downwards if you wish). [...] That depends on whether you already have designs in mind/on paper.Jan 11 23:58
schestowitzPlease let me know:Jan 11 23:58
schestowitz* The domain name/s you wantJan 11 23:58
schestowitz* The sort of page layout you have in mind (I will show you examples)Jan 11 23:58
schestowitzOnce we have the first, I can register the domain and hosting, then showJan 11 23:58
schestowitzyou example on the live site while I get the content in place andJan 11 23:58
schestowitzimprove it (with your feedback).Jan 11 23:58
schestowitzI can set you an E-mail address (with webmail too) on your domain if youJan 11 23:58
schestowitzwish.Jan 11 23:58
schestowitzLooking forward to your response"Jan 11 23:58
schestowitz^^ contracts like theseJan 11 23:58
schestowitzshe only needs a simple information siteJan 11 23:58

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