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| scientes | ahhhh | Jan 14 00:00 |
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| scientes | xfce? | Jan 14 00:00 |
| scientes | lxde? | Jan 14 00:00 |
| brendyn | ive pondered them | Jan 14 00:00 |
| cubezzz | Proteus :) | Jan 14 00:00 |
| scientes | i've only used lxde, which is very well done | Jan 14 00:00 |
| brendyn | but all the conveniences of gnome 2 have been good | Jan 14 00:00 |
| scientes | gnome-shell keeps the same application layout once you find it | Jan 14 00:01 |
| scientes | I am actually liking it, but it took some getting use to---however yes, I generally hate animation | Jan 14 00:01 |
| scientes | thats the first thing I use to do---turn off _ALL_ animation | Jan 14 00:01 |
| cubezzz | I know light linux | Jan 14 00:01 |
| scientes | and you can't do that with gnome 3 | Jan 14 00:01 |
| cubezzz | I run the oldest hardware here I bet :) | Jan 14 00:02 |
| scientes | or at least gnome-shell | Jan 14 00:02 |
| scientes | Id on't see why developers want to be all flash | Jan 14 00:02 |
| cubezzz | flash sux | Jan 14 00:02 |
| scientes | I hate all that shit, even if I have a fast computer | Jan 14 00:02 |
| scientes | its just distracting | Jan 14 00:02 |
| scientes | whoops | Jan 14 00:02 |
| scientes | I meant flashy--animations | Jan 14 00:02 |
| cubezzz | oh that sux too :) | Jan 14 00:03 |
| scientes | I just like clean, highly functional interfaces | Jan 14 00:03 |
| scientes | but meh, I'm using gnome 3 and finding it quite usable | Jan 14 00:03 |
| brendyn | i had to edit a javascript file to get rid of the hot corner | Jan 14 00:04 |
| scientes | whats the "hot corner"? | Jan 14 00:04 |
| brendyn | and that whole strange icon interface for opening applications just seems strange | Jan 14 00:04 |
| scientes | lower right? | Jan 14 00:04 |
| brendyn | when sliding my mouse into the top left corner it opens up activities | Jan 14 00:04 |
| brendyn | the best way i menu is just a simple one like lxde or gnome 2 | Jan 14 00:06 |
| brendyn | like pretty much everything with some sense does | Jan 14 00:06 |
| cubezzz | icewm, xfce... | Jan 14 00:06 |
| brendyn | mints menu app uses 14MiB of ram and is very sluggish | Jan 14 00:07 |
| brendyn | and in the new one i didnt even have the open to revert to the old one | Jan 14 00:07 |
| brendyn | new version of mint | Jan 14 00:07 |
| brendyn | option,... | Jan 14 00:07 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.53 | Jan 14 00:08 |
| cubezzz | I like to test new distros first on an extra box | Jan 14 00:08 |
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| brendyn | yeah well i was kinda pressured since it was brokenm | Jan 14 00:08 |
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| scientes | "On the political front, it is a fairly safe bet that the mobile patent wars will get worse. The participants in this battle appear to be tooling up for an extensive and protracted fight, and there seems to be a steady supply of new companies (British Telecom, for example) piling on in the hope of gaining a piece of the pie for themselves. Things may reach a point where it becomes impossible to market handsets or tablets in some parts of the | Jan 14 00:15 |
| scientes | world. One could hope that a paralyzed mobile market would suggest to lawmakers that the patent system is broken, and that those lawmakers would respond by reforming said system. Alas, a more likely outcome (though not in 2012) is the formation of a patent pool under strong "encouragement" by governments that ends the fights and establishes the positions of a small number of large players at the expense of new entrants. How free software wi | Jan 14 00:15 |
| scientes | ll fare in such a world is far from clear. " | Jan 14 00:15 |
| scientes | sounds likely | Jan 14 00:15 |
| scientes | ( from http://lwn.net/Articles/473940/ ) | Jan 14 00:15 |
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| scientes | sounds like WW2 | Jan 14 00:15 |
| scientes | (last part) | Jan 14 00:16 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] German Court: ISP Must Not Block Access To Foreign Sites, Even If They Are Illegal - http://bit.ly/zqPrd1 wow, amazing decision #de | Jan 14 00:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Can AAP Members stay neutral in the row over the Research Works Act? - http://bit.ly/x1OviO nope: come off that fence #rwa #openaccess | Jan 14 00:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Putin Creates an Online Forum for Detractors—Then Censors It - http://bit.ly/y6v3wi putin well 'ard - even censors himself (v @jilliancyork) | Jan 14 00:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] How democracy is steered by media ommissions in USA: ur1.ca/7h38f | Jan 14 00:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Our Weirdness Is Free - http://bit.ly/xbYPwK great piece about #Anonymous horrible web design | Jan 14 00:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Typing at 255 WPM shouldn't cost $4000: Plover, the open source steno system (Opensource.com) http://ur1.ca/7h3bo | Jan 14 00:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Israeli students paid $2,000 to use social media for pro-government messages - http://tnw.co/yhJT3T will be the norm (maybe already is) | Jan 14 00:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New Yorker told ‘Senator Schumer is in favor of censoring Internet’ during call - http://tnw.co/yR8PbA why it is worth calling them #sopa | Jan 14 00:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Yet another Briton transported to the USA to go on trial. http://ur1.ca/7h3ih #copyright | Jan 14 00:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ piratepartyca: RT @notch: Decided. We'll silently take down http://t.co/zOXe2UMh and http://t.co/XXHOX8Y5 on the 18th in protest of ... | Jan 14 00:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ piratepartyca: RT @mgeist: RT @bcfipa: Important new BC Civil Liberties report on lawful access by Pippa Lawson. A must http://ur1. ... | Jan 14 00:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Evening @Kevie your long school day eventualy came to an end. | Jan 14 00:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is schestowitz from identi.ca with 94 dents! | Jan 14 00:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Freemason/law enforcement connection - David Icke's Official Forums http://goo.gl/J6PbR interesting pics from the guardian news - #nwo | Jan 14 00:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Scary science, national security, and open-source research - http://bit.ly/xsWak9 good summary of the issues about that flu | Jan 14 00:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: German Court: ISP Must Not Block Access To Foreign Sites, Even If They Are Illegal http://bit.ly/zqPrd1 wow, amazing decision | Jan 14 00:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Re extradition treaty with USA. How is it possible to send someone abroad to be prosecuted at a more serious level than at home? | Jan 14 00:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @satipera Re extradition treaty with USA. How is it possible to send someone abroad to be prosecuted at a more serious level than at ... | Jan 14 00:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] In what way would it be different from sending Salaman Rushdie abroad to be executed at that time? | Jan 14 00:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Brazil is the only #BRIC country standing ground on Internet Freedom. Here is why - http://bit.ly/xpbiB6 interesting analysis | Jan 14 00:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] I think @mcepl should write his own #opensource license so he can call it the MCEPL. | Jan 14 00:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] FreeBSD 9.0 released - http://bit.ly/AA09Z5 the forgotten free OS (well, by some) | Jan 14 00:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Indian Judge Tells Google And Facebook To 'Check And Remove Objectionable Material' Or Be Blocked - http://bit.ly/zjjmLp yeah, that'll work | Jan 14 00:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Kernel Log: 15,000,000 lines of code, 3.0 promoted to long-term kernel - The H Open Source http://goo.gl/JmVK4 #linux #floss | Jan 14 00:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Convert audio between MP3, FLAC, WAV - including hi-fi and lo-fi and short clips - O'Reilly Blog http://goo.gl/b2SS8 #floss #audio #tips | Jan 14 00:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] With $116 million Pledged, #Ecuador Moves Forward With Plan to Protect Rainforest - http://bit.ly/zi862V kudos (v @NCStateNews @BoraZ) | Jan 14 00:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] indeed, and that's key | Jan 14 00:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] yes, there's something rotten in the state of etc etc | Jan 14 00:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #FreeBSD 9.0 released - The H Open Source http://goo.gl/Kqxy7 #floss #bsd | Jan 14 00:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Webconverger 11 browser-only OS adds #Firefox 9 - The H Open Source http://goo.gl/Zle2q #flosstools | Jan 14 00:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] The petition to the White House to veto SOPA/PIPA now has over 51,000 signatures - no need to stop now though ;-) http://wh.gov/DfY | Jan 14 00:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 12 schoolgirls in New York develop debilitating mystery illness, health dep. refuses to disclose cause (Gardasil?) http://goo.gl/894JJ | Jan 14 00:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Medical journal openly questions science, ethics of #HPV vaccinations http://goo.gl/t8FOQ #BIGPHARMA | Jan 14 00:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Over on Diaspora: Got time on my hands so I've picked out the weirdest search terms to find my site in the last 7 days: http://goo.gl/gNCzx | Jan 14 00:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @trashheap: Dear !lazyweb anybody have a #faif #Disqus esque comment service they can link me to? !gnu | Jan 14 00:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Tugaleaks - #Sócrates é oficialmente Engenheiro (um assistente é caloteiro, mas isso não interessa) http://goo.gl/cj0Jm #poucavergonha | Jan 14 00:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Tequilla Mockingbird LMAO. | Jan 14 00:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fedora/@fedora] LinuxBSDOS.com (@finide) writes about 4 great security features in Fedora 16: http://2tu.us/3t4r | Jan 14 00:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Tzag Good Afternoon !Identiverse | Jan 14 00:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ... clearly I need to allocate more time to my !InconstantMoon Special Features pages ... especially when drawing is required #outtapractice | Jan 14 00:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] New !InconstantMoon Character page: Elsie http://www.ur1.ca/7h68d !SelfPub | Jan 14 00:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The marines urination video doesn't show the real war crime http://gu.com/p/34kpm | Jan 14 00:31 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The marines urination video doesn't show the real war crime | Ross Caputi | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 257.51 KB | Jan 14 00:31 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Hmph... @support !Identica Quite often I get error message saying the post did not go then when I try again "Too many duplicate messages"... | Jan 14 00:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Hi guys @satipera @kevie @mcnalu ... think i need to get some breakfast now (coffee only goes so far.... and this is about it :) | Jan 14 00:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is the #Screencasters videcast finished? no new episodes for ages :( I hope not - BRING BACK SCREENCASTERS! #Inkscape | Jan 14 00:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Wenger frustrated by TV controlling the schedule, also VERY annoyed at the bags of cash he gets from TV to buy players.....not !football | Jan 14 00:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @davidrovics 3-6 pm San Francisco time today, open mike on Mutiny Radio. I'll be on somewhere around the middle. Listen online: ht ... | Jan 14 00:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Bloody hell Madge is on the Graham Norton Show. | Jan 14 00:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the US marines pissing on the dead is a good metaphor for the US corporations treatment of the 99% | Jan 14 00:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Should making movies be all about making money? http://gu.com/p/34knh #MPAA | Jan 14 00:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Webconverger 11 browser-only OS adds Firefox 9 - The H Open Source: News and Features http://goo.gl/Zle2q | Jan 14 00:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] At the Intersection of !OpenSource and Cloud Computing, You'll Find...Jobs http://goo.gl/NEXqx | Jan 14 00:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] allAfrica.com: Kenya: SMEs Opt for Free and !OpenSource Software to Cut Costs http://goo.gl/6IiGs | Jan 14 00:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] 3 Nice !Blender Made Games for !Linux | Tech Drive-in http://goo.gl/mOCt2 | Jan 14 00:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the key to any independance decision is that good relations between ALL sides of the UK remain intact - no nationalist separation | Jan 14 00:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #PIPA's Own Sponsors Backing Off Bill; Ask Senate To Hold Off On Voting - http://bit.ly/z9E47k a glimmer of hope #sopa | Jan 14 00:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Signs of Progress on the Internet Blacklist Bills, but the Fight Continues https://eff.org/r.P6r | Jan 14 00:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Most popular this week: NASA launches code.nasa.gov to share and collaborate further with the opensource community | red.ht/xk3sOi | Jan 14 00:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Help wanted at LWN http://ur1.ca/7h7hu | Jan 14 00:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Microsoft Says No to Disabling #UEFI Secure Boot on #ARM http://goo.gl/Jqg1x #dirtytricks | Jan 14 00:54 | |
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| sultan2 | Good night :-) | Jan 14 00:54 |
| MinceR | thx | Jan 14 00:58 |
| scientes | http://popcon.debian.org/ | Jan 14 01:07 |
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| scientes | 1.53em1 : 1 | Jan 14 01:08 |
| scientes | thats me! | Jan 14 01:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 'Foreign Policy': Israeli intelligence posed as CIA to recruit terror group for covert war on #iran http://goo.gl/o8nqb #israel #falseflag | Jan 14 01:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Homeless Student Is Intel Talent Search Semifinalist - Slashdot http://goo.gl/6XKT7 | Jan 14 01:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Awesome ! http://sopastrike.com/ | Jan 14 01:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Tim O'Reilly on #SOPA http://ur1.ca/7h8x6 | Jan 14 01:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Windows Admins Need To Prepare For GUI-Less Server - Slashdot http://goo.gl/RrgY6 #copycat | Jan 14 01:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Apple Cult Defends Android-Hostile Cult Leader, Engages in Extortion of Android and Shops, Gets Sued for It http://is.gd/c23TQt #swpats | Jan 14 01:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Microsoft Uses Proxies to Control and Tax Linux http://is.gd/mrj2Li #swpats #patents #blackduck #openlogic | Jan 14 01:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft Uses Proxies to Control and Tax Linux http://is.gd/mrj2Li #microsoft #tuxera #novell | Jan 14 01:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Fanatics Were Wrong, Linux Indeed Attacked by #UEFI http://is.gd/m4edBf #linux | Jan 14 01:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Microsoft Fanatics Were Wrong, Linux Indeed Attacked by UEFI http://is.gd/m4edBf #arm #devices #antitrust | Jan 14 01:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Legislators Can’t See the Elephant in the Room http://is.gd/rVF1WX #facebook | Jan 14 01:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Apple Cult Defends Android-Hostile Cult Leader, Engages in Extortion of Android and Shops, Gets Sued for It http://is.gd/c23TQt #android | Jan 14 01:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Legislators Can’t See the Elephant in the Room http://is.gd/rVF1WX #swpats | Jan 14 01:29 | |
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| DaemonFC | vistaprint | Jan 14 01:36 |
| DaemonFC | what a bad name for a business | Jan 14 01:36 |
| DaemonFC | makes me think of Windows Vista and its inability to print | Jan 14 01:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #SBDC offers free open-source software classes http://is.gd/IgSes1 #opensource | Jan 14 01:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Friendly #Aquaponics: DIY Plans and Complete Training. Grow and Sell Local Food! | COLLAPSENET http://goo.gl/gcrBS #food #preppers | Jan 14 01:49 | |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-x9V-pVBOs&list=UUY30JRSgfhYXA6i6xX1erWg&index=1&feature=plcp | Jan 14 01:54 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mageia 2 Inches Along with Another Alpha http://is.gd/ZFf2Is #mandriva | Jan 14 01:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu #Unity 5.0 is out and ready for testing http://is.gd/zSMxI2 #gnu #linux | Jan 14 01:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Review: Razor-Qt 0.4.0 (via Ubuntu Razor-Qt Remix) http://is.gd/6PdzcH #RazorQt #Qt | Jan 14 01:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] People Behind Debian: Steve McIntyre, debian-cd maintainer, former Debian Project Leader http://is.gd/Ev77pY #debian | Jan 14 01:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Six Great Desktop Linux Features You May Take for Granted http://is.gd/d9bQVr #linux #gnu | Jan 14 02:00 | |
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| schestowitz | gnuhttp://lwn.net/Articles/475359/rss | Jan 14 02:03 |
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| scientes | schestowitz, yes i've seen that | Jan 14 02:03 |
| scientes | we were talking about it yesterday | Jan 14 02:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Syslog replacement Journal integrated into #systemd http://is.gd/1o6i5q #linux | Jan 14 02:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 13/1/2012: CrossOver 11, Mageia 2 Alpha 3 http://is.gd/jp8Obf #techrights | Jan 14 02:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 13/1/2012: CrossOver 11, Mageia 2 Alpha 3 http://is.gd/jp8Obf !]techrights | Jan 14 02:34 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: someone actually complained to kixeye about me "cheating" | Jan 14 03:06 |
| DaemonFC | I wouldn't call luring out tanks that are set to "aggressive pursuit" and then calling in attack helicopters to hose them down with bullets "cheating" | Jan 14 03:07 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] !Debian Timeline http://i.imgur.com/LvWsa.png #codenames | Jan 14 03:41 | |
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| DaemonFC | Seamonkey has marked all add-ons automatically compatible if they claim they're compatible with 2.1 | Jan 14 03:56 |
| DaemonFC | which was the last add-on API break | Jan 14 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | they need to implement an assumption that add-on makers are stupid assholes who only claim they are compatible with Firefox and waste my time unpacking them manually and forcing them in my extensions folder | Jan 14 03:57 |
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| brendyn | I've backed up .evolution .local/share/evolution .gconf2/apps/evoltion and .config/evoltion and copied them back, yet when i open evoltion i still get the setup screen | Jan 14 05:39 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] http://ur1.ca/7henp #fb | Jan 14 06:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Awesome ! http://sopastrike.com/ | Jan 14 06:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Nice pictures ... http://ur1.ca/7hf95 | Jan 14 07:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ piratepartyca: RT @WAPirateParty: A SOPA video you can show to your friends and family to tell them about how bad it is. http://ur1 ... | Jan 14 07:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ piratepartyca: RT @techdirt: Jimmy Wales In Favor Of Wikipedia Blackout: Community Must Decide http://t.co/Uu1r3AD7 | Jan 14 07:27 | |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&NR=1&v=vjPsaYMk83Y | Jan 14 07:32 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: Spam comment left by "essay, research, thesis, academic writting services…" anyone hiring these bozos for writting services deser | Jan 14 08:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Thieves tunnel under cash machine http://goo.gl/5vIg8 for a sec I thought this was another "elite entitlement" story | Jan 14 08:26 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Thieves tunnel under cash machine | UK news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 52.58 KB | Jan 14 08:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] This #Republican #abuse of the system is not the American way http://gu.com/p/34kzy | Jan 14 08:27 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: This Republican abuse of the system is not the American way | Jonathan Freedland | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 268.17 KB | Jan 14 08:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Looking forward to participating in LinuxConfAU. First time participant. #fb | Jan 14 08:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Happy 71st birthday to the talented Faye Dunaway (my favorite was her small but showy Milady DeWinter part in Richard Lester's Muskateers ) | Jan 14 08:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] A no vote in Scotland could leave England begging for mercy http://gu.com/p/34kkx some comments make we weep for the species | Jan 14 08:44 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: A no vote in Scotland could leave England begging for mercy | Deborah Orr | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 276.46 KB | Jan 14 08:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Tesco insider trading? http://goo.gl/RQY0O every penny counts as they say | Jan 14 08:46 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/88623888 | Jan 14 09:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Jose R Rodriguez (metztli)'s status on Saturday, 14-Jan-12 06:01:46 UTC - Identi.ca: Just b/c #Microsoft[#MPAA #RIAA biz model]'s imploding/collapsing doesn't entitle'em/give'em right…harm everyone w #SOPA like #UEFI measures | Jan 14 09:03 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/88622918 | Jan 14 09:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Jose R Rodriguez (metztli)'s status on Saturday, 14-Jan-12 05:31:14 UTC - Identi.ca: ♺ @schestowitz #Microsoft's intentions to sabotage/cheat !GNU/ !Linux —by attacking via #UEFI —played down by fanatics http://is.gd/m4edBf | Jan 14 09:03 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Awesome! Squishy circuits from playdoh - electronics for kids! http://ur1.ca/7hhy9 #fb | Jan 14 09:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Thoughts on #SOPA http://ur1.ca/7hi0o | Jan 14 09:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Building SELinux enabled Android on a Fedora platform - http://ur1.ca/7hi43 | Jan 14 09:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Shared a post "Fantastic! SELinux enabled Android. This is what open source collaboration is all about. http://selinux... http://b1t.it/auXX | Jan 14 09:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Goddamnit, Gabe Newell http://identi.ca/url/64594796 | Jan 14 09:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] PIPA's Own Sponsors Backing Off Bill; Ask Senate To Hold Off On Voting http://identi.ca/url/64594826 !eff | Jan 14 09:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] My Call to Senator Schumer’s Office on PIPA: It’s So Much Worse Than I Thought http://identi.ca/url/64594837 !eff | Jan 14 09:57 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: PIPA's Own Sponsors Backing Off Bill; Ask Senate To Hold Off On Voting [Updated!] | Techdirt .::. Size~: 79.01 KB | Jan 14 09:57 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] What everyone in the SOPA debate is missing: IP is not a fundamental right http://identi.ca/url/64594896 !eff | Jan 14 09:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Under voter pressure, members of Congress backpedal (hard) on SOPA http://identi.ca/url/64594909 !eff | Jan 14 10:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Bruce Schneier Says Abolish the Department of Homeland Security http://identi.ca/url/64595002 !eff | Jan 14 10:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Tim O’Reilly: Why I’m fighting SOPA http://identi.ca/url/64595142 !eff | Jan 14 10:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Popular sites participating in SOPA Blackout http://identi.ca/url/64595162 !eff | Jan 14 10:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] British admin for download links database may be first extradited to US for copyright charges http://identi.ca/url/64595435 !eff | Jan 14 10:14 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: British admin for download links database may be first extradited to US for copyright charges - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 29.12 KB | Jan 14 10:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Activists alter 85 BofA ATMs in SF to become "Automated Truth Machines" http://identi.ca/url/64596450 | Jan 14 10:36 | |
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| MinceR | geekings | Jan 14 11:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Mozilla to Offer New User-Centric Services in 2012 - http://bit.ly/x7i7hU what's coming up #firefox | Jan 14 11:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ITC: Motorola does not violate Apple patents - http://cnet.co/AknCIi shows #apple's victory not quite so certain #android | Jan 14 11:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Emergency NYTech Meetup to Stop SOPA Jan 18 http://identi.ca/url/64598927 !eff | Jan 14 11:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] What the Bagel Man Saw - An Accidental Glimpse at Human Nature http://identi.ca/url/64599306 | Jan 14 11:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Linux.Conf.Au here I come. #fb | Jan 14 12:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] German Court: ISP Must Not Block Access To Foreign Sites, Even If They Are Illegal - http://bit.ly/zqPrd1 RT from last night #de | Jan 14 13:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Indian Judge Tells Google And Facebook To 'Check And Remove Objectionable Material' Or Be Blocked - http://bit.ly/zjjmLp RT from last night | Jan 14 13:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Aliens for #SOPA - http://bit.ly/wD36ys "I'd happily swap the companies in the financial mile for Silicon Valley" #uk | Jan 14 13:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] New Year's Revolution - a good read on New Year's Resolutions ur1.ca/7hm42 | Jan 14 14:06 | |
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| oiaohm | http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2012/01/bitwig-professional-music-creation.html I think some companies are getting the aware of linux | Jan 14 14:10 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Só me apetece cobrir!: #Maçonaria e #Illuminati - Parte 1 - #pt #nwo http://goo.gl/ymF1h & Sinister Sites http://goo.gl/v0a8q | Jan 14 14:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Chance for under-founded NGOs - put donation cans on airports! TSA gets $400k from loose change ur1.ca/7hmbw | Jan 14 14:36 | |
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| schestowitz | prurigro: re: "You live in Britian right?" | Jan 14 15:58 |
| schestowitz | http://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/public-sector/2012/01/microsoft-hustled-uk-retreat-o.html | Jan 14 15:58 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, why? | Jan 14 15:58 |
| schestowitz | I wrote about this in Techrights shortly after Mark Ballard and Glyn Moody wrote about it | Jan 14 15:59 |
| schestowitz | I know them both | Jan 14 15:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #JoinDisapora is back after a week. Willkommen. | Jan 14 15:59 | |
| schestowitz | prurigro: reply when you get back online (away ATK) | Jan 14 15:59 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1144240 debian gains traction, here too | Jan 14 16:01 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] White House responds to anti-#SOPA epetition - http://bit.ly/xIPHFz given its track record, I'm sceptical (v @jonbains @smanthorpe) | Jan 14 16:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] How I Made $70 Selling Myself on Twitter (Gawker): http://gaw.kr/zv8Cn3 | Jan 14 16:07 | |
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| schestowitz | [16:07] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [glynmoody/@glynmoody] White House responds to anti-#SOPA epetition - http://bit.ly/xIPHFz given its track record, I'm sceptical (v @jonbains @smanthorpe) | Jan 14 16:15 |
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| schestowitz | LOL | Jan 14 16:15 |
| schestowitz | White House won't do something that upsets corps | Jan 14 16:15 |
| schestowitz | They should MARCH there | Jan 14 16:15 |
| schestowitz | with torches to set SOPA on fire | Jan 14 16:16 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Cool Ripples :) http://ur1.ca/7hnw9 | Jan 14 16:19 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?docId=1000729511 | Jan 14 16:20 |
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| schestowitz | proprietary | Jan 14 16:20 |
| schestowitz | DRM | Jan 14 16:20 |
| cubezzz | same old, same old | Jan 14 16:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] One of Polish towns moves all their school computer rooms to !Linux. here's a glimpse, more info soon ur1.ca/7ho4r :) | Jan 14 16:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] If Google wants me to leave its publicly-accessible verification files on my server, then it must be o.k., I take it... | Jan 14 16:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Rik - Speed Dial | Jan 14 16:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Thinking about learning. And #SOPA and PIPA and stuff like that - http://bit.ly/zrPoYu why openness & sharing are indispensable | Jan 14 16:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: ITC: Motorola does not violate Apple patents - http://cnet.co/AknCIi shows #apple's victory not quite so certain #android | Jan 14 16:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: #Mozilla to Offer New User-Centric Services in 2012 - http://bit.ly/x7i7hU what's coming up #firefox | Jan 14 16:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Four Horsemen of the General Purpose Computing Apocalypse http://is.gd/JQqRkQ #drm | Jan 14 16:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux #kernel 3.2.1 Is Available for Download http://goo.gl/ydVjQ | Jan 14 16:47 | |
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| schestowitz | It's nice and sunny here at long last, for 4 days in a row probably after over a month of clouds and rain | Jan 14 16:55 |
| schestowitz | Reason to spend more time outside and write less on the PC | Jan 14 16:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 'German cities following Munich's open source example' http://ur1.ca/7g888 | Jan 14 16:59 | |
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| schestowitz | wb, MinceR | Jan 14 17:04 |
| MinceR_ | thx | Jan 14 17:04 |
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| schestowitz | or was it a split? | Jan 14 17:04 |
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| schestowitz | oh, nm | Jan 14 17:04 |
| MinceR | no, weekly IP address change | Jan 14 17:04 |
| schestowitz | it's rare for you to be offline | Jan 14 17:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] As SOPA/PIPA Becomes Toxic, Frantic Congress Test Runs Dropping DNS Blocking Provisions http://goo.gl/bbTlJ #sopa #copyright | Jan 14 17:04 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: oh, this time of the mon... errr... week | Jan 14 17:04 |
| MinceR | :> | Jan 14 17:04 |
| schestowitz | I started using Scroogle exclusively this wek | Jan 14 17:05 |
| schestowitz | I guess the !google bot command qualifies as a scraper too, always the same IP address and no JS/spying/ads | Jan 14 17:06 |
| cubefc1 | scroogle.com looks expired | Jan 14 17:06 |
| schestowitz | .org | Jan 14 17:06 |
| cubefc1 | ah ok | Jan 14 17:06 |
| schestowitz | no need to move to page 2, 3... | Jan 14 17:06 |
| schestowitz | http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/nbbw.cgi?Gw=\{@} | Jan 14 17:07 |
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| schestowitz | where \{@} is the term(s) | Jan 14 17:07 |
| cubefc1 | what is the point of scroogle? | Jan 14 17:07 |
| cubefc1 | oh I see, no cookies stored | Jan 14 17:08 |
| schestowitz | More results by default, privacy, etc. | Jan 14 17:08 |
| schestowitz | you can seatch there for "Ant sex" /sarcasm | Jan 14 17:08 |
| cubefc1 | altavista is still around :) | Jan 14 17:08 |
| cubefc1 | not sure if that's any different | Jan 14 17:09 |
| schestowitz | without mister Schmidt grinning and saying, "if you worry, you do something you shouldn't be doing" (or something along those lines) | Jan 14 17:09 |
| schestowitz | some people google medical conditions | Jan 14 17:09 |
| schestowitz | So they give away Google (through their cookie) information about health problems they or their family may have | Jan 14 17:09 |
| cubefc1 | ah, altavista is part of yahoo now | Jan 14 17:10 |
| schestowitz | some people put their documents on Google's servers directly | Jan 14 17:10 |
| schestowitz | Yahoo is part of the Vole | Jan 14 17:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Windows Server 8 plays catch-up with VMware and Unix • The Register http://goo.gl/885yE #copycat see also http://goo.gl/zKCpD | Jan 14 17:11 | |
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| MinceR | "They have nothing to fear -- unless they have something to fear." | Jan 14 17:15 |
| cubefc1 | well I'll make my own search engine | Jan 14 17:16 |
| cubefc1 | or spider, those are cool | Jan 14 17:17 |
| schestowitz | you can make it FF defaulyt in the address bar | Jan 14 17:19 |
| schestowitz | http://www.ghacks.net/2011/04/20/how-to-change-the-default-firefox-4-address-bar-search-engine/ | Jan 14 17:20 |
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| cubefc1 | Lycos is still around | Jan 14 17:22 |
| schestowitz | SOPA - "The best thing that can happen is it becomes completely politically toxic and they all abandon ship while they can." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1182422 | Jan 14 17:24 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Jarek Lipszyc, z papierosem zwisającym z kącika ust, idąc do kuchni parzyć kawę: "Jest ciśnienie słabe, ja muszę zapalić kawę" !q | Jan 14 17:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Reader’s Picks A GNU/Linux user stranded at work with Windows You really don’t know how good something is u http://ur1.ca/7hq0c | Jan 14 18:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ Reader’s Picks A GNU/Linux user stranded at work with Windows You really don’t know how good something is u http://ur1. ... | Jan 14 18:24 | |
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| scientes | hey someone go to this in chromium/safari/whatever: http://mirror.fem-net.de/CCC/28C3/mp4-h264-LQ/28c3-4656-en-ooops_i_hacked_my_pbx_h264-iprod.mp4 | Jan 14 18:37 |
| scientes | does it work via html5 streaming? | Jan 14 18:38 |
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| schestowitz | mp4? | Jan 14 18:41 |
| schestowitz | won't work | Jan 14 18:41 |
| schestowitz | it's an encolure to MPGE_lA cartel junk | Jan 14 18:42 |
| scientes | ahh, what do you have to enclose h264 in to stream it? | Jan 14 18:42 |
| schestowitz | *encllosure to MPEG-LA | Jan 14 18:42 |
| scientes | I only had firefox installed, so i was wondering | Jan 14 18:42 |
| schestowitz | Adobe Trash | Jan 14 18:42 |
| schestowitz | but it has to be tuied to the swf file | Jan 14 18:42 |
| scientes | no, the html5 h264 support in safari | Jan 14 18:42 |
| schestowitz | *tied | Jan 14 18:42 |
| scientes | I guess they dropped it in chromiu | Jan 14 18:43 |
| scientes | which is smart | Jan 14 18:43 |
| schestowitz | or linked from the SWF to a file on the server, a la Google | Jan 14 18:43 |
| scientes | should have been encoded in WebM | Jan 14 18:43 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Jan 14 18:43 |
| schestowitz | but not many browser support it YET | Jan 14 18:43 |
| schestowitz | *browsers | Jan 14 18:43 |
| scientes | schestowitz, youtube has HTML5 stuff | Jan 14 18:43 |
| schestowitz | yes, but not by default | Jan 14 18:43 |
| scientes | <schestowitz> but not many browser support it YET | Jan 14 18:43 |
| schestowitz | my FF and Konq versions don't support it | Jan 14 18:43 |
| scientes | everything but IE | Jan 14 18:43 |
| scientes | and old firefox | Jan 14 18:43 |
| scientes | and probably safari too | Jan 14 18:44 |
| schestowitz | They will in a few years when people are forced to use something newer | Jan 14 18:44 |
| scientes | 10.04 ubuntu just moved from 3.5-->9.0 | Jan 14 18:44 |
| schestowitz | really? | Jan 14 18:44 |
| scientes | so now supports it | Jan 14 18:44 |
| scientes | yeah | Jan 14 18:44 |
| schestowitz | they used 3.6 | Jan 14 18:44 |
| schestowitz | Debian uses 3.5 | Jan 14 18:44 |
| scientes | oh, 3.6-->9.0 | Jan 14 18:44 |
| schestowitz | squeeze | Jan 14 18:44 |
| scientes | that was a few weeks ago | Jan 14 18:45 |
| scientes | cause mozilla is dropping support for 3.6 soon | Jan 14 18:45 |
| schestowitz | My 10.04 still has 3.6.x | Jan 14 18:45 |
| scientes | well, upgrade! :) | Jan 14 18:45 |
| cubezzz | mplayer can play webm | Jan 14 18:45 |
| schestowitz | maybe I need to update from the repo | Jan 14 18:45 |
| cubezzz | you don't have to use the browser | Jan 14 18:45 |
| scientes | how about streaming cubezzz? | Jan 14 18:46 |
| cubezzz | you could try gnash... | Jan 14 18:46 |
| schestowitz | firefox wasted too much of my time when I upgraded prematurely, won't try that again | Jan 14 18:46 |
| scientes | schestowitz, i meant from the repos | Jan 14 18:46 |
| *cubezzz looks around... I have lots of different incarnations of *nix | Jan 14 18:46 | |
| schestowitz | I used unofficial ones at the time | Jan 14 18:46 |
| schestowitz | put me off firefox totally | Jan 14 18:47 |
| scientes | the ones download from mozilla work great, exactly like in windows, but you have to make links to them | Jan 14 18:47 |
| scientes | its all in one folder | Jan 14 18:47 |
| scientes | i used that before | Jan 14 18:47 |
| cubezzz | someone also mentioned this: http://lightspark.github.com/ | Jan 14 18:47 |
| cubezzz | haven't tried it as yet | Jan 14 18:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Before heading off to my last xmas gathering (the joy of a big family... xmas never ends :) but had to share the following: | Jan 14 18:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Q- What are 2000 mockingbirds? A- 2 kilo mockingbirds. #learn the metric system (via Elin) | Jan 14 18:47 | |
| scientes | but if you use bleeding edge i guess it could screw up your profile.... | Jan 14 18:47 |
| cubezzz | I do a certification test on each distro | Jan 14 18:48 |
| scientes | damn http://mirror.fem-net.de/CCC/28C3/mp4-h264-LQ/ | Jan 14 18:48 |
| cubezzz | even historic ones | Jan 14 18:48 |
| scientes | i wanted to watch some 28c3 vids | Jan 14 18:48 |
| scientes | cubezzz, that was me on lightspark | Jan 14 18:49 |
| cubezzz | ah ok | Jan 14 18:49 |
| cubezzz | does it work well? | Jan 14 18:49 |
| scientes | cubezzz, certification of what? | Jan 14 18:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] There is a Guardian Drug Store in Canada; also I once worked for a film company that made a TV movie called "The Guardian" (w/Martin Sheen) | Jan 14 18:49 | |
| scientes | i don't really use flash, it ONLY support new flash, not old (it falls back to gnash) | Jan 14 18:49 |
| cubezzz | scientes, cubezzz certification... which means it works well on p3 or older and does all the stuff I want | Jan 14 18:49 |
| scientes | ahhh, does gnome-shell and unity and kde4 then fail in general? | Jan 14 18:50 |
| scientes | cause too damn slow? | Jan 14 18:50 |
| cubezzz | yes :) | Jan 14 18:50 |
| cubezzz | Proteus 1.1 gets a thumbs up though | Jan 14 18:50 |
| scientes | url? | Jan 14 18:51 |
| cubezzz | it should be near the top at http://distrowatch.com | Jan 14 18:51 |
| scientes | http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=proteus | Jan 14 18:52 |
| scientes | The distribution you requested does not exist in our database. Please make sure that you spell the name correctly and try again, or select it from the drop-down box above. | Jan 14 18:52 |
| cubezzz | uh sorry :) | Jan 14 18:53 |
| cubezzz | looks like I've been spelling it wrong | Jan 14 18:53 |
| cubezzz | Porteus 1.1 | Jan 14 18:53 |
| scientes | slackware! | Jan 14 18:54 |
| cubezzz | I seem to be attracted to slack derivatives | Jan 14 18:55 |
| scientes | I don't even want to try slackware, I'm not really interested in such primitive package management | Jan 14 18:56 |
| cubezzz | how about OpenBSD? | Jan 14 18:56 |
| cubezzz | or better question: which distros do you use? | Jan 14 18:57 |
| scientes | debian, ubuntu, fedora | Jan 14 18:57 |
| cubezzz | yeah I used debian and fedora | Jan 14 18:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] OK, perhaps "need not" would have been better | Jan 14 18:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] One more share: How our corporate media fails us… http://www.ur1.ca/7hqjz #freespeech #freepress #thewatchdogpressisdead | Jan 14 18:57 | |
| scientes | debian finially has an installable live cd, i havn't tried it out yet | Jan 14 18:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] #repeatingmyself #incaseyoumissedit: Elsie's page http://inconstantmoon.russwurm.org/blogs/characters/elsie/ !InconstantMoon #specialfeature | Jan 14 19:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] but even in English, "must not" can have this sense of "need not" | Jan 14 19:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Have a great day all... !tzaf | Jan 14 19:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #France upholds ban on #Monsanto #GM maize - http://reut.rs/zoFDcZ interesting | Jan 14 19:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Tim O'Reilly nails the key issue: "I've seen no discussion of credible evidence of [piracy's] economic harm" - http://bit.ly/xRzCkA #SOPA | Jan 14 19:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Copyright Alliance wants to take away public's right to see research it paid for - http://bit.ly/xMO3Vz (v http://bit.ly/AEOgs1) #oa | Jan 14 19:17 | |
| scientes | anybody use arch? | Jan 14 19:18 |
| scientes | their wiki always tends to have really useful stuff | Jan 14 19:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Guys, shouldn't there be more options than "Like"? A UI element just like the aspect chooser, with options a'la: - Lik http://ur1.ca/7hr4s | Jan 14 19:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] La Quadrature du net, defenders of the Free Internet, need our help creating the map of #NetNeutrality violations. This http://ur1.ca/7hr4w | Jan 14 19:24 | |
| *amarsh04 just ran a dos fidonet mailer on this pc, booting to a hard disk made in 1998 and running W95osr2 in command prompt only mode | Jan 14 19:32 | |
| amarsh04 | the scsi hdd, scsi cable and dpt scsi card are the only original parts of the pc left | Jan 14 19:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Microsoft Taking Aggressive Steps Against #Linux On #ARM http://goo.gl/eEWLV those who can't compete; default to antitrust bullshit | Jan 14 19:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] isn't there an election coming soon? isn't there an incumbent president who's not all that popular? http://goo.gl/UCMrr #SOPA | Jan 14 19:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] The @WhiteHouse: We will not support #SOPA, or any bill that hurts Internet security, free speech or innovation https://eff.org/r.5Ps | Jan 14 19:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is jpope from micro.jpope.org with 80 dents! | Jan 14 19:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Important note: the Senate still plans to vote on #PIPA, their #SOPA equivalent, in a week and a half. The fight is not over! | Jan 14 20:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @identica Identi.ca will be offline to protest #SOPA on 18 Jan 2012 from 8AM-8PM EST. http://ur1.ca/7hrxc | Jan 14 20:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @evan: RT @identica Identi.ca will be offline to protest #SOPA on 18 Jan 2012 from 8AM-8PM EST. http://ur1.ca/7hrxc | Jan 14 20:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Yeah, get it out of your system. | Jan 14 20:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @zack #LWN is looking for another full-time editor http://ur1.ca/7h7hu | glad to see things are going well for, imho, the best FOSS m ... | Jan 14 20:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] GREATEST TELETHON EVAR | Jan 14 20:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I think he's just married to the head of state. He's off to the side. He's like the ear of state. | Jan 14 20:29 | |
| cubezzz | btw, can you run other stuff on galaxy nexus? | Jan 14 20:32 |
| cubezzz | like put openbsd on it... | Jan 14 20:32 |
| MinceR | you can probably install GNU and X in a chroot | Jan 14 20:33 |
| cubezzz | seems you can just "fastboot oem unlock" | Jan 14 20:35 |
| MinceR | that too | Jan 14 20:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Yeah, that's a really great idea. I should queue up a bunch of causes to blame site outages on. | Jan 14 20:36 | |
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| sebsebseb_ | schestowitz: hmm http://status.net/2012/01/14/identi-ca-blackout-18-jan-2012-8am-8pm-est-to-protest-sopapipa | Jan 14 20:41 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] I can see Gates as hunger, Balmer as pestilence, Jobs as death, and Ellison as war... | Jan 14 20:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Police seize 1,000 beer kegs in London http://goo.gl/tTQcg gotta hand it to em, they know how to do a beer run ;) | Jan 14 20:51 | |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Patent_and_Trademark_Office#Controversial_patents | Jan 14 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Jan 14 20:53 |
| sebsebseb_ | DaemonFC: Hmm http://status.net/2012/01/14/identi-ca-blackout-18-jan-2012-8am-8pm-est-to-protest-sopapipa | Jan 14 20:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #kegwatch not to be confused with #Clegwatch which is more specialist hobby about the capitulation of the deputy PM to Tory policies | Jan 14 20:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Congressman who wrote SOPA is a copyright violator - Boing Boing http://goo.gl/R4EPl | Jan 14 20:54 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.google.com/patents?vid=5443036 | Jan 14 20:54 |
| cubezzz | there's lots of odd stuff in linux | Jan 14 20:56 |
| cubezzz | e.g. ownership | Jan 14 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | U.S. Patent 6,368,227, "Method of swinging on a swing", issued April 9, 2002[35] by patent examiner Kien T. Nguyen,[36] was granted to a seven-year-old boy, whose father, a patent attorney, wanted to demonstrate how the patent system worked to his son (aged 5 at the time of the application). The PTO initially rejected it due to prior art, but eventually issued the patent.[35] However, all claims of the patent were subsequently canceled by the PTO | Jan 14 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | upon reexamination.[37] | Jan 14 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | see, now you can sue all the other kids in the park | Jan 14 20:56 |
| cubezzz | seems to have something to do with compaq?? | Jan 14 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | have fun! | Jan 14 20:56 |
| cubezzz | they cancelled it though ^^^ | Jan 14 20:57 |
| cubezzz | so you can't sue :) | Jan 14 20:57 |
| DaemonFC | Dell tried to get a trademark on "cloud computing" in 2008 | Jan 14 20:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Why do we still get booth babes at #CES? http://gu.com/p/34kn5 | Jan 14 20:57 | |
| DaemonFC | Psion had a trademark on "netbook", but didn't defend it over the years and lost it | Jan 14 20:58 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] That's awesome. I want one! | Jan 14 20:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] RT @identica Identi.ca will be offline to protest #SOPA on 18 Jan 2012 from 8AM-8PM EST. http://ur1.ca/7hrxc | Jan 14 20:59 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA0Mjg | Jan 14 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Jan 14 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft still says they have no plans to implement C99 | Jan 14 21:00 |
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| DaemonFC | speaking of Windows and C/C++ | Jan 14 21:00 |
| MinceR | m$ vs. standards :> | Jan 14 21:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #CES #BootheBabes http://goo.gl/GgRxD #SFW #hilarious | Jan 14 21:02 | |
| schestowitz | [20:56] <DaemonFC> U.S. Patent 6,368,227, "Method of swinging on a swing" | Jan 14 21:03 |
| schestowitz | Famous one...or infamous I should say | Jan 14 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | makes you wonder if anyone is actually reviewing these | Jan 14 21:04 |
| schestowitz | it's more profitable to accept | Jan 14 21:04 |
| schestowitz | Than to reject | Jan 14 21:04 |
| schestowitz | cause they wouldn't reapply | Jan 14 21:04 |
| schestowitz | and it would deter future applicants | Jan 14 21:04 |
| MinceR | they get paid even if they just rubberstamp | Jan 14 21:04 |
| schestowitz | Think of it as a university that accepts rubbish candidates | Jan 14 21:05 |
| MinceR | so guess what they have incentive to do | Jan 14 21:05 |
| schestowitz | it can be profitable in the short term | Jan 14 21:05 |
| schestowitz | you add classes, open up the club | Jan 14 21:05 |
| MinceR | EPO is probably the same | Jan 14 21:05 |
| schestowitz | but then your reputation falls flat and you die | Jan 14 21:05 |
| schestowitz | That's what might happen to the USPTO | Jan 14 21:05 |
| schestowitz | The US public already mocks the USPTO a lot | Jan 14 21:05 |
| schestowitz | If USPTO patents were a journal or publication, maybe would have cancelled their subscription for now... too much dross | Jan 14 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.patentgenius.com/patent/4101823.html | Jan 14 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | My dad | Jan 14 21:06 |
| MinceR | no first name? | Jan 14 21:07 |
| DaemonFC | his parents were weird and named him Felta | Jan 14 21:07 |
| DaemonFC | he goes by his middle name, Carl | Jan 14 21:07 |
| schestowitz | I felta Carl | Jan 14 21:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] DNS blocking pulled from #SOPA - but don't let it fool you. It can be reintroduced, and the rest is bad anyway! ur1.ca/7ht2u | Jan 14 21:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #PIPA = #SOPASeconds #lamesexjoke - after being fucked over by one, you get fucked over by the other | Jan 14 21:07 | |
| MinceR | ic | Jan 14 21:08 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: too much information | Jan 14 21:08 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: i thought it was two people :) | Jan 14 21:08 |
| schestowitz | I felta farmer? | Jan 14 21:08 |
| schestowitz | I robot. I I Sir! | Jan 14 21:08 |
| MinceR | again, TMI | Jan 14 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: One of the doctors at the hospital my mom was working at asked her if she had Felta Carl Farmer lately | Jan 14 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Jan 14 21:08 |
| MinceR | and he has a semicolon in his name | Jan 14 21:09 |
| schestowitz | She fela Gonad | Jan 14 21:09 |
| schestowitz | She felta Gonad | Jan 14 21:09 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: that would break some mysql queries on his name :-) | Jan 14 21:09 |
| MinceR | hm, apparently everyone has a semicolon in their name on this site | Jan 14 21:10 |
| schestowitz | Patent Genius | Jan 14 21:10 |
| schestowitz | One of a zillion patent mirrors | Jan 14 21:10 |
| schestowitz | Google refers people to its own | Jan 14 21:10 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: Inventors: Robert'; delete from patents; -- | Jan 14 21:10 |
| schestowitz | Conveniently enough, like Knol | Jan 14 21:11 |
| MinceR | little Bobby Patents we call him | Jan 14 21:11 |
| schestowitz | if Google is used heavily to access soem DB, then Google will grab that DB, make its own mirror with ads, then promote it | Jan 14 21:11 |
| MinceR | Glassy Knol? | Jan 14 21:11 |
| MinceR | oops, Grassy | Jan 14 21:11 |
| schestowitz | hence GOogle Groups (USENET) | Jan 14 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.htm&r=2&f=G&l=50&d=PTXT&S1=Felta&OS=Felta&RS=Felta | Jan 14 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | there's another one | Jan 14 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | of his | Jan 14 21:12 |
| schestowitz | Inventor; Bond; James Bond, J.r | Jan 14 21:12 |
| schestowitz | Jr. | Jan 14 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | their search engine is terrible | Jan 14 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | I finally gave up and searched his first name | Jan 14 21:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Knuth - Yes, yes, I'm a fanboy. :-) http://ping.fm/2cWz2 | Jan 14 21:12 | |
| DaemonFC | how many others could have that name? | Jan 14 21:13 |
| schestowitz | http://names.whitepages.com/indiana/last/felta | Jan 14 21:13 |
| MinceR | a Felta disturbance in the Force | Jan 14 21:13 |
| MinceR | s/a/i/ | Jan 14 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.htm&r=3&f=G&l=50&d=PTXT&S1=Felta&OS=Felta&RS=Felta | Jan 14 21:13 |
| schestowitz | "There is 1 person with the last name "Felta" in Indiana." | Jan 14 21:13 |
| schestowitz | http://www.whitepages.com/dir/in/a-z/felta | Jan 14 21:14 |
| schestowitz | None known with Felta as first name | Jan 14 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.htm&r=4&f=G&l=50&d=PTXT&S1=Felta&OS=Felta&RS=Felta | Jan 14 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.htm&r=5&f=G&l=50&d=PTXT&S1=Felta&OS=Felta&RS=Felta | Jan 14 21:14 |
| schestowitz | oh, it asks for surname too | Jan 14 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.htm&r=6&f=G&l=50&d=PTXT&S1=Felta&OS=Felta&RS=Felta | Jan 14 21:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @identica Identi.ca will be offline to protest #SOPA on 18 Jan 2012 from 8AM-8PM EST. http://ur1.ca/7hrxc | Jan 14 21:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @eff Important note: the Senate still plans to vote on #PIPA, their #SOPA equivalent, in a week and a half. The fight is not over! | Jan 14 21:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @glynmoody Tim O'Reilly nails the key issue: "I've seen no discussion of credible evidence of [piracy's] economic harm" - http://bit. ... | Jan 14 21:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @eff The @WhiteHouse: We will not support #SOPA, or any bill that hurts Internet security, free speech or innovation https://eff.org/ ... | Jan 14 21:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @glynmoody Copyright Alliance wants to take away public's right to see research it paid for - http://bit.ly/xMO3Vz (v http://bit.ly/A ... | Jan 14 21:14 | |
| DaemonFC | that's the one from patent genius that I linked earlier | Jan 14 21:14 |
| schestowitz | http://www.whitepages.com/name/Felta-C-Jr-Farmer/Lafayette-IN/44aj157 | Jan 14 21:14 |
| schestowitz | " | Jan 14 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | just on the USPTO site instead | Jan 14 21:14 |
| schestowitz | Felta C Farmer Jr | Jan 14 21:14 |
| schestowitz | (765) 471-7122 | Jan 14 21:15 |
| schestowitz | 4114 George Washington Rd | Jan 14 21:15 |
| schestowitz | Lafayette, IN 47909-3542 | Jan 14 21:15 |
| schestowitz | " | Jan 14 21:15 |
| schestowitz | Let's call "Dad" | Jan 14 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.htm&r=7&f=G&l=50&d=PTXT&S1=Felta&OS=Felta&RS=Felta | Jan 14 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | lets not | Jan 14 21:15 |
| schestowitz | To tell im Jabba is alright | Jan 14 21:15 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: what do you want to call him? | Jan 14 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | I don't call him | Jan 14 21:15 |
| schestowitz | I kid, I kid | Jan 14 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why you would | Jan 14 21:15 |
| schestowitz | But show you how much privacy one gets on the interwebz | Jan 14 21:15 |
| MinceR | "Could you call me a cab?" "Of course Sir. You're a cab." | Jan 14 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | none | Jan 14 21:16 |
| schestowitz | it even shows a map of where he is | Jan 14 21:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @ggoes CBS Interactive, parent company of #Lastfm, supports SOPA/PIPA. Good reason to switch to !librefm. | Jan 14 21:16 | |
| schestowitz | for the stalkers among the k00ks | Jan 14 21:16 |
| MinceR | does it track him in realtime? | Jan 14 21:16 |
| schestowitz | his mobile phone service provider(s) do | Jan 14 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | his patents cover CRT televisions | Jan 14 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | and some old CRT computer monitors | Jan 14 21:16 |
| schestowitz | it's getting quite accurate, I reckon they can almost tell now if you go to the toilet | Jan 14 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | they've all expired I think | Jan 14 21:17 |
| schestowitz | the antenna range is better and there's more antennas around for triangulation | Jan 14 21:17 |
| *dyfet (~dyfet@ool-457169ef.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #techrights | Jan 14 21:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @glynmoody Thinking about learning. And #SOPA and PIPA and stuff like that - http://bit.ly/zrPoYu why openness & sharing are indispen ... | Jan 14 21:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @eff: Important note: the Senate still plans to vote on #PIPA, their #SOPA equivalent, in a week and a half. The fight is not over! | Jan 14 21:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: #France upholds ban on #Monsanto #GM maize - http://reut.rs/zoFDcZ interesting | Jan 14 21:17 | |
| schestowitz | poor monsanto | Jan 14 21:18 |
| schestowitz | can't sell seeds it "owns" | Jan 14 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | RCA no longer exists | Jan 14 21:18 |
| schestowitz | Can't seed the posion in France | Jan 14 21:18 |
| sebsebseb_ | schestowitz: How is having Identica and such closed down for 12 hours, going to help fight against SOPA? also not really been following this stuff | Jan 14 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | they were bought by Thomson | Jan 14 21:18 |
| schestowitz | did Thomson buy em? | Jan 14 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | which is a French company | Jan 14 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | and a patent troll | Jan 14 21:18 |
| schestowitz | identica is Canadian | Jan 14 21:18 |
| schestowitz | no reason for shutdown | Jan 14 21:19 |
| sebsebseb_ | schestowitz: uhmm I think there is more of a reason now actsaully | Jan 14 21:19 |
| sebsebseb_ | schestowitz: it used to say in my Firefox add on | Jan 14 21:19 |
| sebsebseb_ | that that website was in C anada | Jan 14 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | Thomson slowly shut down all of the actual production that RCA did | Jan 14 21:19 |
| sebsebseb_ | ,but more recently it says USA instead | Jan 14 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | until several years ago | Jan 14 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | when they fired all their remaining US employees | Jan 14 21:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] The consequence of treating ideas as tangible property is the very destruction of science and the elimination of individual rights&freedoms | Jan 14 21:19 | |
| DaemonFC | except some patent lawyers | Jan 14 21:19 |
| sebsebseb_ | schestowitz: it's hosted in USA now instead of Canada, as far as I know | Jan 14 21:19 |
| sebsebseb_ | schestowitz: going by my Firefox add on anyway | Jan 14 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | they license their trademarks to go on Chinese-made TV sets and A/V equipment | Jan 14 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | in particular, they license MP3 in the US | Jan 14 21:20 |
| schestowitz | license is not an appropriate word IMHO | Jan 14 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | that's probably their most valuable patents | Jan 14 21:21 |
| schestowitz | We need to discard it in this context | Jan 14 21:21 |
| schestowitz | It's like "IP" or "protect" "innovation" | Jan 14 21:21 |
| sebsebseb_ | schestowitz: also Evan has been in USA recently it seems, going by stuff on Identica I saw before, in fact maybe he's moved there, I don't know | Jan 14 21:21 |
| sebsebseb_ | well think I saw something that said he was in USA | Jan 14 21:21 |
| schestowitz | "pay on a monopoly tax on" is better than "license (v.)" | Jan 14 21:21 |
| MinceR | i thought "license" was a legal term | Jan 14 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | they renamed themselves Technicolor | Jan 14 21:22 |
| dyfet | Extorction reminds the correct word | Jan 14 21:22 |
| dyfet | (remains) | Jan 14 21:22 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb_: did they need to feel up his crotch, did they pass him through xray scanners, or did he travel by car? | Jan 14 21:22 |
| schestowitz | dyfet: bvut how do you rewrite with a noun "licensed mp3 patents"? | Jan 14 21:23 |
| sebsebseb_ | schestowitz: I don't really belive in NWO or The Elite, but NWO belivers did basically tell me before, how they would use piracy as the excuse to censor the Internet. | Jan 14 21:23 |
| sebsebseb_ | and well I guess that's SOPA? | Jan 14 21:23 |
| MinceR | it manifests in many forms | Jan 14 21:23 |
| schestowitz | and PIPA | Jan 14 21:24 |
| sebsebseb_ | not sure what PIPA is yet | Jan 14 21:24 |
| schestowitz | !google pipa sucks | Jan 14 21:24 |
| schestowitz | hmm.. | Jan 14 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | Thomson and Microsoft are very friendly with each other | Jan 14 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | back in the 90s, Microsoft convinced Thomson to switch from SGI IRIX to Windows NT | Jan 14 21:25 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Jan 14 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | it was a disaster but the management never admitted that | Jan 14 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | they had been using IRIX for equipment design and modeling | Jan 14 21:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Wikipedia turns 11 on January 15, 2012 - http://bit.ly/y2aqWK how ever did we live without it? | Jan 14 21:26 | |
| dyfet | Well, I think of it as paying mp3 extortionists | Jan 14 21:26 |
| schestowitz | through their proxy | Jan 14 21:27 |
| schestowitz | like riaa | Jan 14 21:27 |
| schestowitz | mpeg-la | Jan 14 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | Thomson is a very "Dilbert"-like company | Jan 14 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | at least I always got that impression from my dad | Jan 14 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | they go from one failed product to the next, they love outsourcing all of it | Jan 14 21:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Stop HR3699; The #OpenAccess movement needs to get ACTIVE; the Scholarly Poor already do - http://bit.ly/Av9FVp just do it, #oa people | Jan 14 21:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] Some may also recall gnupedia before it... | Jan 14 21:29 | |
| DaemonFC | the only thing that keeps the company running is their patent extortion wing | Jan 14 21:29 |
| MinceR | gnupedia? not nupedia? | Jan 14 21:29 |
| dyfet | gnupedia was an effort that never really took off, I think it was a year or so before wikipedia... | Jan 14 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | there was probably a reason why | Jan 14 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | but the reality and what you'll hear from them may not exactly match up | Jan 14 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | http://mp3licensing.com/ | Jan 14 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Jan 14 21:34 |
| dyfet | Not all individual projects are successful, but the idea was clearly correct... | Jan 14 21:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ‘Phantom Heritability’ Indicates Poor Predictive Value of #GeneTests - http://bit.ly/zb5DRG provocative but important stuff #genomics | Jan 14 21:34 | |
| DaemonFC | (no thanks) | Jan 14 21:34 |
| MinceR | and there goes DaemonFC, attacking the FSF without knowing anything about the subject, as usual | Jan 14 21:34 |
| MinceR | yawn | Jan 14 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | they're impossible to work with | Jan 14 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | when is the last time they've worked with anyone where the arrangement wasn't totally lopsided to the FSF's favor? | Jan 14 21:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Defending John Williams - http://bit.ly/yfS1YS great points from Eric #music #films | Jan 14 21:37 | |
| MinceR | have you stopped beating your wife yet? | Jan 14 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | huh? | Jan 14 21:39 |
| schestowitz | s/wife/cat./ | Jan 14 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | the cat is fine | Jan 14 21:40 |
| MinceR | a cat is fine too | Jan 14 21:40 |
| schestowitz | typo | Jan 14 21:40 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: ok, so you stopped beating it | Jan 14 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | I've never hurt an animal | Jan 14 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | I've eaten quite a few that were already dead | Jan 14 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jan 14 21:42 |
| schestowitz | but MinceR asked a loaded question | Jan 14 21:42 |
| schestowitz | and you fell into the trap | Jan 14 21:42 |
| MinceR | i answered a loaded question with another loaded question | Jan 14 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | I don't consider it loaded | Jan 14 21:43 |
| schestowitz | oh trust me... it's LOADED /melaughs | Jan 14 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | the fact that XEmacs lives on when the FSF could use the code from it is proof they don't work with people | Jan 14 21:43 |
| cubezzz | wow, finally managed to do a remote graphical login | Jan 14 21:43 |
| cubezzz | only thing is, it was fedora -> fedora | Jan 14 21:44 |
| MinceR | yeah, because forked projects never live on along with the original project if the FSF isn't involved | Jan 14 21:44 |
| MinceR | and in general, human beings always cooperate perfectly with each other, right? | Jan 14 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | Wikipedia is behind | Jan 14 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | they list an old version of XEmacs as current | Jan 14 21:45 |
| *DaemonFC has a habit of updating these things | Jan 14 21:45 | |
| MinceR | conspiracy theory explanation in 3...2...1... | Jan 14 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | nobody has yet corrected it | Jan 14 21:46 |
| cubezzz | it's Microsoft's fault, I'm going with that | Jan 14 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | oh, their terminology for stable is weird | Jan 14 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | according to this, I've been using a "beta" since around 2006 | Jan 14 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | *sigh* | Jan 14 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | http://stallman.org/articles/xemacs.origin | Jan 14 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | Stallman's account | Jan 14 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | he mentions GNOME as a GNU project even though it is only barely one | Jan 14 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | (They very nearly had a vote to leave the GNU project a little while back) | Jan 14 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | and they do things that RMS wouldn't like, such as recommending Mono | Jan 14 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | frequently | Jan 14 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | KDE has much less of a cloud over it as far as I am concerned | Jan 14 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | they don't recommend .NET or advertise MPEG-4 | Jan 14 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | like GNOME does | Jan 14 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | I like the reasoning you hear a lot when you talk to a project like that | Jan 14 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | they assume that just because they can use such things where they are now, that the law there will never change and the special interests will never get their way | Jan 14 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | (and if and when it does, they can lose access to all of that, overnight) | Jan 14 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | they're still taking a huge risk, they're just putting it off | Jan 14 21:59 |
| MinceR | 225417 < DaemonFC> he mentions GNOME as a GNU project even though it is only barely one | Jan 14 22:00 |
| MinceR | 225442 < DaemonFC> (They very nearly had a vote to leave the GNU project a little while back) | Jan 14 22:00 |
| MinceR | nearly. | Jan 14 22:00 |
| MinceR | therefore it still is one, even if it's a load of crap that's been to a great extent taken over by m$ drones. | Jan 14 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: They do a lot of things the FSF doesn't approve of | Jan 14 22:00 |
| MinceR | :> | Jan 14 22:00 |
| MinceR | maybe the FSF should kick them out | Jan 14 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | it's clear where most of the GNOME people stand | Jan 14 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | they should | Jan 14 22:00 |
| MinceR | as of gnome3, i'm not sure how long they'll even be relevant | Jan 14 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | it's obviously a marriage of convenience turned marriage from hell | Jan 14 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | I think that the GNU project should start giving KDE a nod | Jan 14 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | they're still promoting GNOME even though GNOME's goals are less in line with the FSF's than KDE's goals are | Jan 14 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Could you ever see GNOME 3 on a RHEL desktop? | Jan 14 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | as in, what a workstation is supposed to use | Jan 14 22:03 |
| MinceR | i don't think i've seen an RHEL desktop at all, at least since it went E | Jan 14 22:04 |
| MinceR | i think they should give XFCE a nod | Jan 14 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | it's basically GNOME 2 with Metacity right now | Jan 14 22:04 |
| MinceR | since it, you know, doesn't suck | Jan 14 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | the only way to use XFCE on RHEL is with backported packages from Fedora | Jan 14 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jan 14 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | they ship GNOME as the default and most of KDE as an "option" | Jan 14 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | but without EPEL, KDE in RHEL is unusable | Jan 14 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | there's so many useful KDE applications that RHEL doesn't package that without EPEL, you're going to have a very bad time | Jan 14 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: It'd be nice if XFCE didn't have such a hard dependence on X for so many things | Jan 14 22:08 |
| MinceR | what do you mean? | Jan 14 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | their compositor requires X | Jan 14 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | KDE and GNOMEs don't | Jan 14 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | their window manager, period, in XFCE, needs X | Jan 14 22:08 |
| MinceR | XFCE's compositor actually works reliably | Jan 14 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | KDE's and GNOME's don't | Jan 14 22:08 |
| MinceR | besides, if you want a sane DE, you might as well use a sane windowing system | Jan 14 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | the toolkit (GTK+ 2) needs X | Jan 14 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | GTK and Qt don't | Jan 14 22:09 |
| MinceR | what now? | Jan 14 22:09 |
| MinceR | GTK needs X but GTK doesn't? | Jan 14 22:09 |
| MinceR | what are you on? | Jan 14 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | 3 | Jan 14 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | GTK 3 doesn't | Jan 14 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | damn you | Jan 14 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jan 14 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | the more stuff avoids or doesn't need X, the better their position when it comes time to leave X | Jan 14 22:10 |
| MinceR | yes, when. | Jan 14 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | XFCE has said they will still be using GTK 2 in their next release | Jan 14 22:10 |
| MinceR | GTK 2 isn't going to go away soon | Jan 14 22:10 |
| MinceR | and the WM can be replaced if you hate it so much | Jan 14 22:11 |
| MinceR | then again, where would yo go? | Jan 14 22:11 |
| MinceR | s/yo/you/ | Jan 14 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | well, there's kwin, but that has a lot of KDE dependencies | Jan 14 22:11 |
| MinceR | (on one of my installs, i run XFCE with OpenBox and xcompmgr) | Jan 14 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | Mutter wouldn't work outside GNOME at all | Jan 14 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | OpenBox is worse than xfwm | Jan 14 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | Compiz is not even up for consideration | Jan 14 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 14 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | Compiz managed to screw the pooch with their C++ rewrite | Jan 14 22:12 |
| MinceR | so basically your argument is "XFCE sucks because i can't turn my system into a crash parade using kwin or compiz" | Jan 14 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | and it still depends on OpenGL 1.x | Jan 14 22:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: 'German cities following Munich's open source example' http://ur1.ca/7g888 | Jan 14 22:12 | |
| DaemonFC | kwin isn't a crash parade | Jan 14 22:13 |
| MinceR | for "bling over functionality", gnome3, kde and unity are still around | Jan 14 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME 3 and Unity suck hard | Jan 14 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | KDE is the only option out of those | Jan 14 22:13 |
| MinceR | kwin likes to crash when the number of monitors changes | Jan 14 22:13 |
| MinceR | it also is horribly glitchy if you turn off compositing | Jan 14 22:13 |
| MinceR | and it can't render the root window in compositing mode if plasma-desktop isn't running, which is even less stable than kwin | Jan 14 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | kwin got a lot of work recently | Jan 14 22:14 |
| *DaemonFC is usually using something newer than stable releases on stuff that interests him | Jan 14 22:15 | |
| DaemonFC | The edgiest that Debian Sid ever manages to get is between 1-3 releases of KDE ago | Jan 14 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | and they build it wrong | Jan 14 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | so I can see why you're had a bad experience | Jan 14 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | *you've | Jan 14 22:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Wordpress plugin to raise awareness of SOPA and PIPA - http://ur1.ca/7hub0 #fb | Jan 14 22:16 | |
| DaemonFC | even Ubuntu builds a better KDE than Debian manages | Jan 14 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | that's saying something | Jan 14 22:16 |
| schestowitz | skubuntu has a proper release | Jan 14 22:16 |
| schestowitz | and team | Jan 14 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | Kubuntu usually has a recent KDE and pulls out most of the Debian patches that destroy things and cause lots of crashes | Jan 14 22:17 |
| schestowitz | debian doesn't use kde as default for desktop setup, kubuntu does | Jan 14 22:17 |
| schestowitz | Fedora has a KDE edition | Jan 14 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora's KDE is one of the best | Jan 14 22:17 |
| schestowitz | i use kde on debian right now, it works fine | Jan 14 22:17 |
| schestowitz | i used fedora kde last year | Jan 14 22:17 |
| schestowitz | the rpmhell annoyed me | Jan 14 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | rpmhell? | Jan 14 22:18 |
| schestowitz | broken octave package | Jan 14 22:18 |
| schestowitz | so then I thought about virtualising mint 10 under it | Jan 14 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | there's been a couple of upstream releases of RPM since then | Jan 14 22:18 |
| schestowitz | but the rpm of virtualbox didn't work | Jan 14 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | one of the biggest things to land recently is all RPMs in Fedora use XZ compression | Jan 14 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | VirtualBox is a kmod | Jan 14 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | there's no telling what it will cause Linux to do | Jan 14 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | it's all out of tree | Jan 14 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Having VirtualBox installed taints your kernel | Jan 14 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | and invalidates all your kernel panic and oops reports | Jan 14 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | basically, if anything you want to install in Fedora calls itself an akmod or a kmod, you should stop and find out WHY before you install it | Jan 14 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | if it's not part of the kernel, there's probably a reason | Jan 14 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | they split off the staging drivers into a kmod for example | Jan 14 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | and proprietary drivers are a kmod in RPM Fusion | Jan 14 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | they all taint the kernel too | Jan 14 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | Debian and Ubuntu build the staging drivers, all of them, and include them in the kernel package without warning | Jan 14 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | then fail to warn you about proprietary drivers too | Jan 14 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu considers drivers that crash your system, open up security holes, and exhibit strange bugs a "feature" | Jan 14 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | usually, stuff in staging is there because it's broken | Jan 14 22:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] RT @EFF: The @WhiteHouse: We will not support #SOPA, or any bill that hurts Internet security, free speech or innovation eff.org/r.5Ps | Jan 14 22:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Nice. Optus has a A$40 prepaid 3G data/text/voice offer. The 3G gives you 3gig of data. Enough for my #lca2012 trip. #fb | Jan 14 22:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody #Wikipedia turns 11 on January 15, 2012 - http://bit.ly/y2aqWK how ever did we live without it? | Jan 14 22:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @creativecommons RT @EFF: The @WhiteHouse: We will not support #SOPA, or any bill that hurts Internet security, free speech or innova ... | Jan 14 22:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Rupert Murdoch calls Google a ‘piracy leader’ on Twitter - http://tnw.co/wqitZu at least it doesn't hack dead schoolgirls' phones, eh Rupe? | Jan 14 23:22 | |
| schestowitz | tessier: DNS is not available on the server - a problem we had some years back | Jan 14 23:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody Rupert Murdoch calls Google a ‘piracy leader’ on Twitter - http://tnw.co/wqitZu at least it doesn't hack dead schoolgirls' ... | Jan 14 23:26 | |
| DaemonFC | I'm back on War Commander | Jan 14 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jan 14 23:39 |
| MinceR | ooh, the newest clone of Norton Commander! | Jan 14 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | over the last day I've managed to destroy 4 human enemy bases, an AI base, and upgrade my airfield and war factory to level 8, one of my gun turrets to level 9, and my Cobra attack helicopters from level 3 to level 7 | Jan 14 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jan 14 23:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @glynmoody Rupert Murdoch calls Google a ‘piracy leader’ on Twitter - http://tnw.co/wqitZu at least it doesn't hack dead schoolgirls' ... | Jan 14 23:41 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: It's a Facebook game | Jan 14 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jan 14 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | one of the better ones | Jan 14 23:41 |
| MinceR | must be great | Jan 14 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | I found out how to exploit their level up system a little bit | Jan 14 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | each structure on an enemy base that you destroy, you gain experience points | Jan 14 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | so I order my units to only attack resource dumps, command and control centers, and only stop to destroy non critical buildings and enemy units that get in their way | Jan 14 23:44 |
| DaemonFC | the more non-critical units you destroy, the faster you level up | Jan 14 23:44 |
| DaemonFC | over time I've probably managed to avoid leveling up 5-6 times, so I am facing other players that don't have units that are a match for mine or my base defense network | Jan 14 23:45 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jan 14 23:45 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: It kind of takes some of the fun out of the game though | Jan 14 23:46 |
| DaemonFC | other players assume they are a match for my base and then their units usually end up destroyed within 30 seconds of initiating their attack | Jan 14 23:46 |
| DaemonFC | I've concentrated on a better defense network than offensive units | Jan 14 23:47 |
| DaemonFC | so I don't have mega tanks, but my base defense network can easily defend my base against several enemy mega tanks | Jan 14 23:47 |
| DaemonFC | http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/2267/snapshot20r.png | Jan 14 23:47 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jan 14 23:47 |
| schestowitz | See historical populations | Jan 14 23:48 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Louis,_Missouri#Demographics | Jan 14 23:48 |
| DaemonFC | apparently that Rogue Assault thing is optional | Jan 14 23:48 |
| schestowitz | any explanations for it? | Jan 14 23:48 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: a friend from Manchester wants to move there | Jan 14 23:48 |
| DaemonFC | in four days you can choose to allow the enemy invasion | Jan 14 23:48 |
| schestowitz | any advice? | Jan 14 23:48 |
| DaemonFC | and if you do, and you defeat them, you get early access to a new unit type a month ahead of other players as a reward | Jan 14 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | so I'm going to opt in to the invasion | Jan 14 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | I'm confident that my forces will crush them | Jan 14 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jan 14 23:49 |
| schestowitz | I told him negative things about St._Louis | Jan 14 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I have only been to St. Louis once, or the entire state of Missouri for that matter | Jan 14 23:49 |
| schestowitz | but you would know better than I | Jan 14 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | in 1992 | Jan 14 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | it seemed alright | Jan 14 23:50 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: so what is the latest on sopa? | Jan 14 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | about what you'd expect from a major metropolitan area | Jan 14 23:50 |
| schestowitz | is it good to live in? | Jan 14 23:50 |
| schestowitz | the population there seems to be declining | Jan 14 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | I'd assume that, as with any major city that size, there are good areas and high crime areas | Jan 14 23:50 |
| schestowitz | yeah, that's what I told him | Jan 14 23:51 |
| schestowitz | the question is, which areas? | Jan 14 23:51 |
| schestowitz | and why the retreat of the population? | Jan 14 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: That reminds me of Microsoft's new patent | Jan 14 23:51 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Jan 14 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | it has been unofficially dubbed Avoid Ghetto | Jan 14 23:51 |
| schestowitz | ghetto finder | Jan 14 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 14 23:51 |
| XFaCE | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFmf8nyxnWo | Jan 14 23:52 |
| schestowitz | the bot is down (DNS problems) | Jan 14 23:52 |
| XFaCE | yay, bigot commenters | Jan 14 23:52 |
| XFaCE | I mean just the comment section, the vid is nice (thx for the suggestion schestowitz :) | Jan 14 23:53 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Jan 14 23:53 |
| XFaCE | I hate anti-immigration morons | Jan 14 23:53 |
| XFaCE | Yeah, how do they think Canada's population grows or stays constant? Dumbassees | Jan 14 23:54 |
| XFaCE | No no no, let's not welcome other cultures and learn how they do things in order to better understand and even maybe improve ourselves, no, let's be closed-minded while complaining | Jan 14 23:55 |
| schestowitz | Countries can increase FDP by: | Jan 14 23:55 |
| schestowitz | outsource/export the manufacturing/production | Jan 14 23:55 |
| schestowitz | attracting paper pushers/knowledge workers | Jan 14 23:55 |
| schestowitz | and just handle a lot of money | Jan 14 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not against immigration | Jan 14 23:56 |
| schestowitz | see the GDP of Switzerland and some of the tiny nations of Europe, such as Luxembourg | Jan 14 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | people think that because you don't want the parasites that you're a bigot | Jan 14 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | funny how that works isn't it? | Jan 14 23:56 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: I think that the idea of parasites is way overblown | Jan 14 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | Don't let them in if....they don't intend to work | Jan 14 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | Don't let them in if, they don't possess a useful skill | Jan 14 23:56 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Like the people who make "piracy" arguments or cry wolf about "terrorists" | Jan 14 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | Don't let them in if, they carry a disease that is not here already or common | Jan 14 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think that's unreasonable | Jan 14 23:57 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: We have immigration rules, and they work just fine | Jan 14 23:57 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Sure, that's why we have legislation | Jan 14 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, it's the people that BREAK the rules that I have a problem with | Jan 14 23:57 |
| XFaCE | by no means am I suggesting that we implement a free-for-all | Jan 14 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think that our immigration laws are unfair or unusually harsh | Jan 14 23:58 |
| DaemonFC | but if all you have to do to avoid them is jump over a fence, then that is what people do | Jan 14 23:58 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: By Canadian standards, they may be | Jan 14 23:58 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Then again, the US is a melting pot, we are a mosaic | Jan 14 23:58 |
| DaemonFC | Canada enforces their laws | Jan 14 23:58 |
| XFaCE | The US wants you to be of the main US culture | Jan 14 23:58 |
| DaemonFC | their laws may be more lenient, but ours are unenforced | Jan 14 23:58 |
| DaemonFC | so Canada still ends up with fewer undesirables | Jan 14 23:59 |
| MinceR | what about the Quebecois? :> | Jan 14 23:59 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Their culture is a billion times more interesting then many of the English-derived cultures | Jan 14 23:59 |
| DaemonFC | hey, you know what? I think Canada has every right to decide who gets to live there | Jan 14 23:59 |
| DaemonFC | immigration is a privilege, not a right | Jan 14 23:59 |
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