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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @torproject Why we are taking part in the #SOPAblackout: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/blackout-against-copyright-overreach-stop-s ...Jan 18 00:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #unseenstudio and by own blog are now under a 24hr blackout to protest #SOPA - every little helpsJan 18 00:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] hmm, side effect of using the slideshow module, it uses that to render the maintenence message; not what I had in mind but it worksJan 18 00:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @jwildeboer Google takes swiftvaction after OpenStreetMap vandalism via their IP address. Good. http://ur1.ca/7jv7k... http://b1t.it/axkgJan 18 00:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Blackout now in effect for libre.fm foocorp.net foocorp.org matt.lee.name robmyers.org bugs.foocorp.net and more. #SOPA !librefmJan 18 00:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] 3d print CC BY-SA licensed toys for your kids! MakerBot Castle/Damsel sets: http://ur1.ca/7jvw2 http://www.thingiverse.coJan 18 00:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] XFS: Adventures in Metadata Scalability by Red Hat's Dave Chinner #lca2012Jan 18 00:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] Parents: apologies for the out of date food in Parents' room - this has been removed, and there's some fresher stuff there. :-) #LCA2012Jan 18 00:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] after joining the #SOPA blackout, it occurred to me that #Identica will go black soon too - so o/ to all; see ya on the other sideJan 18 00:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Will Jerry Yang leaving Yahoo give him time to explore as Jobs had when he was fired? #fbJan 18 00:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] RT @maha #mpaa's "irresponsible response' & "disservice" on anti #sopa #blackout http://ur1.ca/7jul3 LOL #politicsJan 18 00:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Yahoo co-founder Jerry Yang resigns from its board http://goo.gl/ZmSmGJan 18 01:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Yahoo co-founder Jerry Yang resigns from its board .::. Size~: 66.41 KBJan 18 01:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Reader’s Picks Woz praises Android function, cries over iPhone decay. “I used to ask Siri, ‘What are http://ur1.ca/7jwd1Jan 18 01:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ Reader’s Picks Woz praises Android function, cries over iPhone decay. “I used to ask Siri, ‘What are http://ur1. ...Jan 18 01:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links – More Sopa, TV Whitespaces under attack.   | Techrights .::. Size~: 88.21 KBJan 18 01:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I'm trying to replace the index file on russwurm.org but its not working... I'll try the wordpress plug-in tooJan 18 01:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ahh "Twitter should NOT join the #SOPA blackout because it's helping folks organise" http://goo.gl/pr7z4 the #publicservice veneerJan 18 01:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wikipedia's blackout looms | Technology | The Guardian .::. Size~: 107.99 KBJan 18 01:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the #MPAA calls the #SOPA blackouts a "gimmick" http://goo.gl/r2rQi spot the astroturfers in the commentsJan 18 01:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wikipedia blackout a 'gimmick', MPAA boss claims | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 173.37 KBJan 18 01:15
DaemonFCLeave it to Mozilla to talk about making Firefox lean and mean and then distributing a 100+ slide PowerPoint presentation they converted poorly to PDF, which is 14 MB Jan 18 01:23
DaemonFCWhy is it that people feel they can't give a presentation without stuffing it full of large images?Jan 18 01:24
DaemonFCIf you're that worried you'll put the audience to sleep, you need to reconsider if your speech is worth givingJan 18 01:24
scienteswhat does & before a variable mean in C?Jan 18 01:30
scientesit has it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_syntax#Referencing but I don't really understand itJan 18 01:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: C syntax - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 170.47 KBJan 18 01:30
scientesbasically means it doesn't have to copy the variable needlessly?Jan 18 01:31
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cubezzzscientes, get the K&R bookJan 18 01:35
cubezzzit explains things pretty wellJan 18 01:35
scientesI successfully added click-to-select to tomoyo-editpolicy :)Jan 18 01:35
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scientesnow i need to add shift-clickJan 18 01:35
scientesfor selectionsJan 18 01:36
scienteshttp://pastebin.com/xjQ9m335Jan 18 01:36
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DaemonFC"they like to walk around in tight jeans with a $6 cup of coffee, waving around their Apple devices made by slave/child labor in Shenzhen, China (AKA, Hell On Earth)"Jan 18 01:43
DaemonFC-me (trying to define hipster)Jan 18 01:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Stop Sopa or the web really will go dark http://gu.com/p/34najJan 18 01:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Hello !IdentiverseJan 18 01:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !Mageia RD @schestowitz #Mageia 2 Inches Along with Another Alpha http://is.gd/ZFf2Is #mandrivaJan 18 01:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Stop Sopa or the web really will go dark | Dan Gillmor | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 232.66 KBJan 18 01:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mageia 2 Inches Along with Another Alpha .::. Size~: 38.17 KBJan 18 01:43
sebsebsebthose dents took quite awhile to come in here, except for my last I guessJan 18 01:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Blackout protest tomorrow: please link to http://ur1.ca/7jx1c to contact Congress against #SOPA and #PIPA. #J18 #SOPABlackoutJan 18 01:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] TAKING PHOTOS? *Please* make sure if you're photographing people that they're comfortable with it! Thank you! #LCA2012Jan 18 01:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Action Alert | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 20.56 KBJan 18 01:52
schestowitz"No. The only people hurt will be those trying to organize resistance. " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1193067Jan 18 01:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] blogged: Netizens Day http://www.ur1.ca/7jx2y #SOPA #PIPA #BLACKOUT #NetizensDay #censorship !CDNpoliJan 18 01:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Netizens Day «  Laurel L. Russwurm .::. Size~: 71.77 KBJan 18 01:53
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1193362 "No. The only people hurt will be those trying to organize resistance. "Jan 18 01:54
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schestowitz"Oh, I thought he was trying to make a point. he he, one shop looks like another. "Jan 18 01:54
DaemonFCschestowitz: You're wrong about Apple, btwJan 18 01:58
DaemonFCthey are not just a branding companyJan 18 01:58
DaemonFCthey manufacture wantJan 18 01:58
DaemonFC:)Jan 18 01:59
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DaemonFCoopsJan 18 02:00
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scientesdang, clang doesn't support multiarchJan 18 02:16
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scienteswait http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=633739 == closed fixedJan 18 02:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: #633739 - clang is not fully multiarch - Debian Bug report logs .::. Size~: 13.4 KBJan 18 02:17
scienteshmmJan 18 02:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @tonybaldwin blog.reddit - A technical examination of SOPA and PROTECT IP http://tonyb.us/WJan 18 02:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @tonybaldwin Google will protest SOPA using popular home page - CNET News http://tonyb.us/VJan 18 02:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @tonybaldwin How to go on #SOPASTRIKE http://ur1.ca/7juvjJan 18 02:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Go on strike to fight #sopa http://ur1.ca/7jxbfJan 18 02:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Inter-Parliamentary Union condemns U.S. investigation into Icelandic MP @birgittaj - https://eff.org/r.2P8 #WikiLeaks #privacyJan 18 02:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: blog.reddit -- what's new on reddit: A technical examination of SOPA and PROTECT IP .::. Size~: 74.72 KBJan 18 02:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google will protest SOPA using popular home page | Media Maverick - CNET News .::. Size~: 72.83 KBJan 18 02:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: misc:sopastrike · free software by tony baldwin .::. Size~: 33.63 KBJan 18 02:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SOPA STRIKE - Largest online protest in history - January 18 - blackout your site .::. Size~: 261.28 KBJan 18 02:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Inter-Parliamentary Union Condemns Government Investigation into Member of Iceland’s Parliament | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 31 KBJan 18 02:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] When a prospective employer wants your social media passwords http://ur1.ca/7jxnh #privacy #justsayno #wtfJan 18 02:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: when a prospective employer wants your social media passwords — Ask a Manager .::. Size~: 336.31 KBJan 18 02:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Leslie Hawthorn speaking about Mentoring and the challenges #lca2012Jan 18 02:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] "This Sucks" button on every webpage. #lca2012Jan 18 02:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] "You receive free, give free", essense of GPL. @lhawthorn #lca2012Jan 18 02:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @rknop The MPAA is pissed because Wikipedia is informing the public. Foo! In America, we get legislation by dumping money into DC!!!Jan 18 03:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Have timezone-sensitized "office hours" for open source projects. Good idea. #lca2012Jan 18 03:02
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DaemonFC[22:26] <Sho_> i wouldn't use it for music anywayJan 18 03:29
DaemonFC[22:28] <DaemonFC> It has a Phonon backend so that you can set your sound system to Weed Whacker throughout KDEJan 18 03:29
DaemonFC[22:28] <DaemonFC> :)Jan 18 03:29
DaemonFC-me on VLCJan 18 03:29
prurigroDaemonFC, is KDE's sound system still as bad as the artsd days?Jan 18 03:32
DaemonFCnot when you use it with GstreamerJan 18 03:34
DaemonFCif you want to make it unusable, you can hook it up to VLCJan 18 03:34
prurigrohaha good to knowJan 18 03:34
prurigroI almost installed it earlier today as a depJan 18 03:34
prurigroand it gave the option of gstreamer, vlc and one other....Jan 18 03:34
DaemonFCI understand why they don't want to rely on Gstreamer even if Gstreamer is the only thing that really works well right nowJan 18 03:35
DaemonFCthat may not be the case in 5-10 yearsJan 18 03:35
prurigroyea, I see no reason not to plug into as many backends as availableJan 18 03:36
prurigrothough I figure users should be guided towards the best option, if there's one that really stands outJan 18 03:36
DaemonFChttp://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2398987,00.aspJan 18 03:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft's New File System, ReFS, Echoes the Short Life of WinFS | PCMag.com .::. Size~: 97.52 KBJan 18 03:41
DaemonFCReFS highlights one more antifeature of Windows HomeJan 18 03:41
DaemonFCusers of which are still stuck on NTFSJan 18 03:42
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prurigroDaemonFC, barely noticeable news for windows users means potentially unstable ntfs write support again for linux, yay!Jan 18 03:42
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DaemonFCLinux will have no ReFS support for a long timeJan 18 03:44
DaemonFCthat's the entire point of introducing a new file system with no POSIX namespaceJan 18 03:44
DaemonFCand they probably have a pile of patents on it to bootJan 18 03:44
DaemonFC:PJan 18 03:44
scienteswho cares?Jan 18 03:44
DaemonFCpeople who are dumb enough to walk into the bear trap that Microsoft disguised as a new featureJan 18 03:45
DaemonFClike alwaysJan 18 03:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Epiphany 3.3.4 Released With New Menu And Toolbar, More http://identi.ca/url/64803825Jan 18 03:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] #lhawthorn, the cultural qstn I asked can't be reasonably answered with looking at business books. FOSS participation is different #lca2012Jan 18 03:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Opportunity Knocks, LAMPJR, and IMICROBLOG will be dark tomorrow in protest of #SOPA and #PIPA. Tell your representatives to vote "NO".Jan 18 03:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ piratepartyca: RT @svulliez: http://ur1.ca/7jyql @TheCurrentCBC interviews a handsome @piratepartyca representative #Pp http://ur1. ...Jan 18 03:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Epiphany 3.3.4 Released With New Menu And Toolbar, More ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 70.35 KBJan 18 03:47
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DaemonFCthat's OK, they can keep RetardFSJan 18 03:47
DaemonFCBtrFS will be here soon and I can use it, for freeJan 18 03:48
prurigroDaemonFC, they are labelling it a separate file system then? I was worried ntfs would continue on to become thisJan 18 04:00
DaemonFCWindows doesn't have a proper VFS layer, so things that would be in the VFS with one common implementation among all supported file systems on Linux, has to be written from scratch by Microsoft for every file system they want to support. Bigger drivers. More bugs. Different bugs depending on which file system driver code you're using. etc.Jan 18 04:01
DaemonFCsymlinks for example, there might be a bug in ReFS's symlink handling because it uses different code than the code that has been used in NTFS for many yearsJan 18 04:02
DaemonFCbut that's just one exampleJan 18 04:02
DaemonFCWindows suffers from a lot of internal fragmentationJan 18 04:03
DaemonFCthey're just pretty good at hiding that from the userJan 18 04:04
DaemonFC"Buy a faster PC with more RAM"Jan 18 04:04
DaemonFCUser: "Yes evil master!"Jan 18 04:04
DaemonFCprurigro: To some extent, it would get bigger just because there's always going to be new hardware to support. This happens in free software too, but with Windows the problem is on two fronts. They can never remove things that no longer make sense because they would instantly break a lot of stuff that depends on it.Jan 18 04:06
DaemonFCThey no longer develop vbscriptJan 18 04:06
DaemonFCthey tell people not to use itJan 18 04:06
DaemonFCit's a relic from Windows 98 and IE 4Jan 18 04:06
DaemonFCbut Windows 8 will still have it because if they yank it out, everything that has accumulated that relies on it will breakJan 18 04:07
DaemonFCthey maintain backwards binary compatibility at the cost of making Windows 2-3 times larger than it should be, and using several different compilers to make sure that old drivers still workJan 18 04:07
DaemonFCamong other thingsJan 18 04:07
DaemonFClike shims that mimic bugs in older versions of Windows so that programs that depend on them don't breakJan 18 04:08
prurigroDaemonFC, oh interesting-- so they'd be breaking support to themselves as much as anyone else eh? and hmm, weren't the like weekly ntfs patches partly to blame for broken support for years?Jan 18 04:08
DaemonFCsome things can never be fixed if you want to maintain a binary ABIJan 18 04:08
DaemonFCbecause the trick is to fix it without making any of the behavior that is exposed to a driver appear ANY differentJan 18 04:09
DaemonFCthe only advantage Windows has as a development target is that you know what you have to work with because it is one size fits allJan 18 04:10
prurigrohmm, touche ehJan 18 04:10
cubezzzuh but one size does not fit allJan 18 04:10
cubezzzwince? :)Jan 18 04:11
DaemonFCWindows CE has never been promoted as Windows NT compatibleJan 18 04:11
DaemonFCit's only similarJan 18 04:11
cubezzzthere's no such thing as one size fits allJan 18 04:11
prurigrounless you use windows xp for 10 years ;)Jan 18 04:12
DaemonFCsure there is, you make a pair of pants that is a size 12X and put in a drawstringJan 18 04:12
DaemonFCyou basically get the equivalent of WindowsJan 18 04:12
cubezzzeven the most vanilla C program won't compile on everythingJan 18 04:13
cubezzztry old cc sometimeJan 18 04:13
DaemonFCthat's the fault of compilers most of the timeJan 18 04:13
DaemonFCbug in the compiler, compiler older than the version of the C standard you want to use, compiler from standards violators like MicrosoftJan 18 04:14
cubezzzancient cc didn't have voidJan 18 04:16
cubezzzLinux with wine and a ton of emulators, then you have something close to universalJan 18 04:17
prurigrocubezzz, I learned c with boreland then didn't touch it for like ten years when I took it in highschoolJan 18 04:17
prurigrotalk about standards-shockJan 18 04:17
cubezzzthere's no e :)Jan 18 04:17
prurigrooh no kiddingJan 18 04:17
prurigrohahaJan 18 04:17
cubezzzand their long gone tooJan 18 04:17
cubezzzthey'reJan 18 04:17
prurigroyea, I haven't heard their name in quite some timeJan 18 04:18
cubezzzthey became Inprise, and I lost track of what happened to themJan 18 04:18
prurigroI think I used their DOS based 8086 assembler a couple years back, and even then the'd diedJan 18 04:18
prurigrowow, why change such a popular name?Jan 18 04:19
cubezzzoh then they became Borland again, interestingJan 18 04:19
cubezzzthen they were acquired by Micro Focus for a measly 75 millionJan 18 04:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] A good day to... DIE HARD!! → http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1606378/ :DJan 18 04:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] A good day to... DIE HARD!! → http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1606378/ :DJan 18 04:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] How Universal Music Group treated Veoh #SOPA #PIPA http://ur1.ca/7jza8Jan 18 04:20
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Robert Scoble - Google+ - I just can't stand the way the entertainment industry… .::. Size~: 96.9 KBJan 18 04:20
cubezzzso they didn't die completely Jan 18 04:20
prurigrohahaJan 18 04:20
prurigrono company with patents will ever die until patents dieJan 18 04:20
prurigrobecome hollow shells of their old selves maybeJan 18 04:21
cubezzzthe whole software biz is changing Jan 18 04:21
cubezzzeven the computer book section at the local chapters is getting smallerJan 18 04:21
prurigroit feels like its reaching its potential absolutes in all directionsJan 18 04:22
prurigroand its a lot of stuff to tackle, if you're entering the game nowJan 18 04:22
prurigro+ the internetJan 18 04:22
prurigrocubezzz, you doing anything overly involving atm?Jan 18 04:23
cubezzzyeah it's harder to write GUI's then the old msdos text style programsJan 18 04:23
cubezzznot reallyJan 18 04:23
cubezzzit seems like there's less people writing softwareJan 18 04:24
prurigrocubezzz, wanna try joining a new form of darknet I've been involved in helping set up?Jan 18 04:28
cubezzzhttp://youtu.be/KaFHrGjy7w0Jan 18 04:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Classic old computers and machines       - YouTube .::. Size~: 102.91 KBJan 18 04:30
cubezzzprurigro, ok, what do I do?Jan 18 04:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Gotta hand it to the MPAA, they've got hypocrisy down to a science. #SOPA http://ur1.ca/7jzf6Jan 18 04:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kevin Molskness - Google+ - Gotta hand it to the MPAA, they've got hypocrisy down to a… .::. Size~: 47.35 KBJan 18 04:30
prurigrocubezzz-- what version of libevent are you running?Jan 18 04:31
cubezzzI'm running 6 different machinesJan 18 04:32
cubezzzfc1 doesn't seem to even have libeventJan 18 04:33
cubezzzfedora 10 has 1.4Jan 18 04:33
cubezzzopenbsd 4.7 has 2.0Jan 18 04:33
cubezzzI think fedora 14 has 1.4 as wellJan 18 04:33
prurigrohmmJan 18 04:34
prurigroyou need libevent2Jan 18 04:34
prurigroso openbsd?Jan 18 04:34
cubezzzI guess soJan 18 04:35
cubezzzthis is openbsd that I'm on nowJan 18 04:35
prurigrosweetJan 18 04:35
prurigrogot cmake and git?Jan 18 04:35
cubezzzI don't think soJan 18 04:36
prurigrohttp://openports.se/devel/cmakeJan 18 04:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: OpenPorts.se | The OpenBSD package collection .::. Size~: 37.78 KBJan 18 04:36
prurigrohttp://openports.se/devel/gitJan 18 04:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: OpenPorts.se | The OpenBSD package collection .::. Size~: 49.28 KBJan 18 04:37
prurigroand you have ip? (likely either /sbin/ip or /bin/ip, though I'm not completely familiar with how bsd lays that stuff out)Jan 18 04:38
cubezzzummJan 18 04:40
prurigroumm?Jan 18 04:41
cubezzzno, I have it on Linux but not openbsdJan 18 04:41
prurigroahh hmmJan 18 04:41
prurigromaybe linux would be easier thenJan 18 04:41
prurigroyou have dev tools installed?Jan 18 04:42
prurigrohttps://github.com/downloads/libevent/libevent/libevent-2.0.16-stable.tar.gzJan 18 04:43
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prurigroif you remove libevent, then ./configure && make && make install libevent2Jan 18 04:44
prurigroyou should be good to goJan 18 04:44
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cubezzzprurigro, what distro are you using?Jan 18 04:49
prurigroarchJan 18 04:49
cubezzzand did has all this stuff already?Jan 18 04:49
prurigroyupJan 18 04:49
cubezzzand thisJan 18 04:49
prurigroarch is fantasticJan 18 04:49
prurigroI even made a package for archJan 18 04:49
prurigrofor the darknet appJan 18 04:49
prurigrothey just got package signing officially today tooJan 18 04:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Please..go online and look up SOPA and PIPA if you don't already know what they are. http://ur1.ca/7jzpg... http://b1t.it/axsrJan 18 04:50
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prurigro(apparently the only thing holding it back from being the king of non-gui-config distros)Jan 18 04:50
scienteswut, arch didn't have package signingJan 18 04:50
cubezzza bit odd that oldish openbsd had libevent 2.0 and the linuxes didn'tJan 18 04:51
cubezzzdoes arch have a xfce or kde 3.5.10 version?Jan 18 04:51
prurigroscientes, not at all until like last spring or so, and not officially till now (they had to bring their package collection over)Jan 18 04:51
scienteswow, i'm suprised anyone used it thenJan 18 04:52
prurigrocubezzz, arch starts you out with a terminal and a set of core linux utilitiesJan 18 04:52
prurigropacman -S gnome gnome-extra and you're running gnomeJan 18 04:52
cubezzzoh I seeJan 18 04:52
prurigropacman -S xfce xfce-goodies and you're running xfceJan 18 04:52
prurigroetcJan 18 04:52
cubezzzthat's rather like openbsd thenJan 18 04:52
prurigroits kinda like gentooJan 18 04:52
prurigroand yea, bsd tooJan 18 04:52
cubezzzbut old kde? :)Jan 18 04:53
prurigrorolling release and an only what you want setupJan 18 04:53
scientessigning is kinda importantJan 18 04:53
prurigroold kde yupJan 18 04:53
prurigrolast I checked at leastJan 18 04:53
cubezzzinterestingJan 18 04:53
scientesthe arch wiki is really usefulJan 18 04:53
DaemonFCDAMN IT!Jan 18 04:53
DaemonFCFlash crashedJan 18 04:53
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cubezzzI'm not sure I should install libevent 2.0 on vector thoughJan 18 04:53
prurigroscientes, it was a huge issue to a lot of people who wanted to use it, and today should mark the day where they're comfortable joining-- it never had an issue thoughJan 18 04:53
prurigroscientes, and yea, the arch wiki is probably the best linux resource online these days-- they go with vanilla packages, so configuration has a broad scope :)Jan 18 04:55
prurigrocubezzz: how come?Jan 18 04:55
cubezzzwell I have no idea if it will break something...Jan 18 04:55
cubezzzI have a laptop I'm not using... I could put arch linux on itJan 18 04:56
cubezzzoh well, too tired... I'll have to look at it tomorrowJan 18 04:57
prurigrocubezzz, ahh, I think tor uses libevent-- not much else thoughJan 18 04:57
prurigrooh hmJan 18 04:58
prurigrochromium, firefox, nfs-utils, tmux, tor, transmissionJan 18 04:58
cubezzzwhat is a darknet?Jan 18 04:58
prurigroyea, maybe it'd be worth keeping around-- I'd definitely recommend giving arch a try either way though, its a great distroJan 18 04:58
prurigrohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_InternetJan 18 04:59
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prurigrothe developer of the routing utility driving this new one was a genius though, and unlike a lot of attempts at darknets in the past, this one creates a fake ipv6 network device through your ipv4 connectionJan 18 05:00
prurigroso any application that works with ipv6 addresses are automatically configured for this networkJan 18 05:00
cubezzzI don't think I do anything that requires a darknet :)Jan 18 05:00
prurigroso far there's a central 'hub' site being developed, a completely anonymous ircd that regular internet ips can join as wellJan 18 05:01
prurigroand a bunch of seriously crazy servers holding it up at the centreJan 18 05:01
prurigroand tbh, neither do IJan 18 05:01
cubezzzcool video from 1958:Jan 18 05:02
cubezzzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhhS_lXQ_So&feature=endscreen&NR=1Jan 18 05:02
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prurigrobut I find it interesting, and I feel it could play an important role in maintaining a free and open internet indefinitelyJan 18 05:02
prurigrosince right now there are keys to be taken awayJan 18 05:02
prurigroand with this there could be no keysJan 18 05:02
cubezzzprurigro, I'm on a freenet anywayJan 18 05:02
cubezzzI'm not really restricted in any way Jan 18 05:02
prurigrofreenet is similar, yet not nearly as anonymous, encrypted, hack proof, compatible or powerful as this one-- though it likely has more content at the moment :)Jan 18 05:03
prurigroand haha, yea, neither am IJan 18 05:03
cubezzzon the other hand, google likes to crawl everything including my anonymous ftp siteJan 18 05:03
prurigrobut I like to be future proofJan 18 05:03
prurigroand hahaJan 18 05:03
prurigroit wouldn't be able to crawl thisJan 18 05:03
prurigroand ftp definitely works over itJan 18 05:03
cubezzzgoogle seems to even crawl files that have no links to themJan 18 05:05
prurigrovisited them with google chrome ever?Jan 18 05:07
cubezzzI watch the crawlersJan 18 05:07
cubezzzno, these files are mostly pictures of old computers that I haveJan 18 05:08
cubezzzI don't really care if anyone looks at them :)Jan 18 05:08
cubezzzbut there's no link to them, I figured a crawler would need thatJan 18 05:08
prurigroyou setup firefox and/or chrome to not check for forgeries/phishing?Jan 18 05:09
cubezzzno, I don't use chrome and I never told firefox not to check for forgeriesJan 18 05:10
prurigroword, yea, that'd be it thenJan 18 05:11
prurigronow keep in mind this is hearsay, but it makes sense, the details seem to be correct, and its the only way I can figure google found your private ftpJan 18 05:11
prurigroanyway, the way it was explained to me is that firefox uses google's engine to check for web forgeriesJan 18 05:12
cubezzzwell actually I have text listing the anonymous ftp on my web page :)Jan 18 05:12
prurigroand therefore, the sites you visit are sent to google to ensure they aren't on the blacklistJan 18 05:12
prurigroohJan 18 05:12
prurigrowellJan 18 05:12
cubezzzit's only text, no linkJan 18 05:12
prurigrothat'd be much more probableJan 18 05:12
cubezzzit's not a secret or anything, but there's no link to clickJan 18 05:13
prurigroparsing engines need not limit themselves to hyperlinks when they can check the url's status themselvesJan 18 05:13
cubezzzI'm just surprised google crawled it, I guess I shouldn't be Jan 18 05:13
prurigroyea, google goes to much sketchier means to find links than that hahaJan 18 05:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Please read through. Nice one ! http://ur1.ca/7jzu1... http://b1t.it/axsHJan 18 05:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] The SOPA blackout has begun, and we're capturing today's changes to the Internet in a gallery: http://red.ht/zIKCm2Jan 18 05:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] The @eff website protests the blacklist bills. Check it out: https://eff.org/r.5P9 #j18 #SOPABlackout #SOPAJan 18 05:18
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nandan Vaidya - Google+ - Please read through. Nice one !… .::. Size~: 49.32 KBJan 18 05:18
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*DaemonFC is listening to Rooster by Alice In Chains on Live [Amarok]Jan 18 05:21
DaemonFCgoes well with War CommanderJan 18 05:21
DaemonFC:PJan 18 05:21
DaemonFChttps://www.google.com/landing/takeaction/Jan 18 05:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] This is what we wanted. YES !!! https://www.google.com/Jan 18 05:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] ALERT: Extreme hardcore Debian user required at NOC stat! (package hacking) Any assistance req'd - Jason + Duncan thank you #LCA2012Jan 18 05:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] lol! http://isthispoisono.us/ #lca2012Jan 18 05:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] buddycloud, diaspora are privacy-respecting federated alternatives #lca2012Jan 18 05:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Nice #SOPABlackout graphic on Minecraft.net: https://eff.org/r.P7B Thanks @notch! #J18 #SOPAJan 18 05:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Watching #FatherTed now.Jan 18 05:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @sankarshan Daniel P. Berrangé » Building application sandboxes with libvirt, LXC & KVM http://bit.ly/zwKQtm http://b1t.it/axtLJan 18 06:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Neat :) http://ur1.ca/7k0k8 #SOPA #PIPAJan 18 06:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] Going to PDNS? Bus pick up at bus station near C building Busses at 6.15pm and 6.45pm (for those going to @linuxaustralia AGM #LCA2012Jan 18 06:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] tonido and sheeva alternative plug servers for FreedomBox project #lca2012Jan 18 06:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] DebConf11 talks have good stuff on FreedomBox project #lca2012Jan 18 06:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Userspace tools for the Marvell uAP in the FreedomBox code is now on GPL. #lca2012Jan 18 06:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Exactly.Jan 18 06:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] You can, but how do you do it. How much info are you going to give them? It's a lot of work if your only objective is to not be spoofed.Jan 18 06:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] psst... Netizens Day post @1111aether ... of course I'm trying to manage a #blackout http://www.ur1.ca/7jx2yJan 18 06:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Can we have a keysigning session at #lca2012? My GPG key ID: gpg id: 746809E3Jan 18 06:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] You wrote some awesome code @zacharyjohnson ...then l turned off noscript. Now temptation to play with the flashlight is strong :) #SOPAJan 18 06:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @psquid I wonder how many people will be like this today? http://xkcd.com/903/Jan 18 06:37
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DaemonFChmmmJan 18 06:37
DaemonFCWikipedia isn't blocked out for meJan 18 06:37
prurigroit said one hour for me a few mins backJan 18 06:37
digitteqnohippiehttp://digitsgnublog.tk had a lil rant about sopa n pipa.Jan 18 06:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I support #wikipediablackout! Show your support here http://www.ur1.ca/7k0b1Jan 18 06:38
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prurigrodigitteqnohippie, how about nintendo?Jan 18 06:39
prurigroor visa?Jan 18 06:39
digitteqnohippie...?  what about them?Jan 18 06:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] We are on strike folks ! http://ur1.ca/7juiq ( Even if you aren't in the US , you can definitely do somethingJan 18 06:40
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prurigrodigitteqnohippie, they were on the list of #SOPA supportersJan 18 06:40
prurigromicrosoft was against sopa too, surprisinglyJan 18 06:41
digitteqnohippieum.. r u saying i should have gone through n listed every supporter, and written a lil paragraph about my boycotting of them?Jan 18 06:41
prurigronopeJan 18 06:41
prurigrowas just curious if you were boycotting nintendoJan 18 06:42
digitteqnohippiek, good.  cos that wuda got kinda long, n become a dull repetitive read.Jan 18 06:42
prurigroand visa seemed like a tricky one tooJan 18 06:42
prurigronaw, that list exists, it doesn't need to be repeatedJan 18 06:42
digitteqnohippiesure.  why not.  ^_^Jan 18 06:42
prurigrowasn't sure if you'd seen it thoughJan 18 06:42
prurigro(might be worth linking actually?)Jan 18 06:42
digitteqnohippieand i already dont use credit cards.Jan 18 06:42
digitteqnohippiethe list of sopa supporters... yeah, good idea to include that.Jan 18 06:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] The growing #BLACKOUT list http://www.ur1.ca/7jw1f #NETIZENday #SOPA #PIPAJan 18 06:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] My personal blog at http://ur1.ca/7k16m went dark to protest internet censorship, SOPA, PIPA.Jan 18 06:45
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digitteqnohippiewhere's the best place to go, the horse's mouth, for an always up-to-date list of sopa supporters?   and for those actively against it tooJan 18 06:46
*digitteqnohippie just grabs the wiki linkJan 18 06:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @sankarshan http://bit.ly/Ao0cC8 - following up on the 'Indian languages losing cyber vitality' article in ET. http://b1t.it/axvcJan 18 06:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @jwildeboer My personal blog at http://ur1.ca/7k16m went dark to protest internet censorship, SOPA, PIPA.Jan 18 06:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: sankarshan mukhopadhyay - Google+ - There was a recent article published in the Economic Times… .::. Size~: 58.9 KBJan 18 06:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Does anyone know where I can download the #Wordpress #SOPA #Blackout plugin?Jan 18 06:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @psquid Nice touch on Wikipedia’s part that the page on SOPA itself remains available, so people can read up. :)Jan 18 06:55
DaemonFChttp://thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=i_hate_sashaJan 18 06:56
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DaemonFCLMAOJan 18 06:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I think the single best thing happening against SOPA/PIPA is wikipedia.org going dark. #fbJan 18 07:00
DaemonFChttp://thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=message_to_copsJan 18 07:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Interesting online accouting site: xero.com. Anyone with experience using them? #fbJan 18 07:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] If your site's hosted by NearlyFreeSpeech, you can black it out with just one switch. See how: https://eff.org/r.3PD #j18 #SOPAblackoutJan 18 07:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Really good breakdown of the #SOPA bill. http://ur1.ca/7k1kqJan 18 07:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] AWESOME #SOPA #PIPA flowchart http://ur1.ca/7jx15Jan 18 07:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] This is what I received... "Now browsing: Sopa Blackout Utility @laurelrusswurm" ... but no actual link :)Jan 18 07:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ape Con Myth › 00227 – Super PIPA-SOPA .::. Size~: 21.19 KBJan 18 07:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @jacobwb FSF, GNU, Defective by Design, LibrePlanet, Windows 7 Sins & PlayOgg have gone dark to raise awareness of SOPA and PIPA. Roc ...Jan 18 07:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Thanks @postblue for the wordpress #SOPA #BLACKOUT plugin link https://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/sopa-blackout/Jan 18 07:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Happy #NetizenDay ... the day when we stand up for #NetRights and say "NO" to #SOPA #PIPA with a #BLACKOUTJan 18 07:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk sounds like the dread PHP to me.Jan 18 07:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Shared a post "STOP #SOPA Feel free to steal this image for your own" http://ur1.ca/7k1rfJan 18 07:30
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sebsebsebEnglish wikipeda site blacked outJan 18 07:34
MinceRnot just locked against editing?Jan 18 07:35
sebsebsebAmerican Free Software Foundation site blacked out, Free Software Foundation Europe still thereJan 18 07:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Elegant and powerful #SOPABlackout protest from our friends at @2600: www.2600.com #J18 #SOPAJan 18 07:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @psuresh ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛#SOPA⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛#PIPA⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛!lp !fk !fsJan 18 07:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I've got the Wordpress #BLACKOUT Plug-In installed on my !InconstantMoon page http://inconstantmoon.russwurm.org/blogs/Jan 18 07:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] ACE as usual from thepiratebay.org ! http://ur1.ca/7k21dJan 18 07:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jeffrey Fina - Google+ - Pirate bay tries to censor itself. All you need to do is… .::. Size~: 48.58 KBJan 18 07:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Why didn't slashdot.org, engadget.com join the SOPA/PIPA protest?Jan 18 07:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] First TheOatMeal .... http://ur1.ca/7k26sJan 18 08:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Matthew Inman - Google+ - I made an animated GIF about SOPA. … .::. Size~: 102.96 KBJan 18 08:00
DaemonFCUbisoft has a new DRM system for their Windows gamesJan 18 08:11
DaemonFClike Windows itself, if it thinks you've upgraded your computer just a little too much, it will lock you out of your games and force you to buy new license codesJan 18 08:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] The Wordpress PlugIn is here ... https://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/sopa-blackout/ ... it does not work for Wordpress dot com free siteJan 18 08:13
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DaemonFCthis is interestingJan 18 08:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] And then XKCD http://xkcd.com/903/Jan 18 08:25
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sebsebsebhttp://libre.fm taking part as expectedJan 18 08:25
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sebsebsebhttp://last.fm isn'tJan 18 08:25
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DaemonFCwell, that bitesJan 18 08:27
DaemonFCFreenode is having SSL handshake errors on port 7070Jan 18 08:27
sebsebsebDaemonFC: what's that?Jan 18 08:28
sebsebsebDaemonFC: and I have some server issues just nowJan 18 08:28
sebsebsebhad someJan 18 08:28
sebsebsebon FreenodeJan 18 08:28
DaemonFCI changed to port 7000 and it let me reconnectJan 18 08:28
sebsebsebdon't know what port I am usingJan 18 08:28
sebsebsebanyway it was just a netsplit I guessJan 18 08:29
sebsebsebDaemonFC: I am going through my time line on Identica, well will be again, before it goes down laterJan 18 08:29
sebsebsebstarted to, but then some Firefox issues so computer went offJan 18 08:29
sebsebseband on againJan 18 08:29
DaemonFCit's not very reliable is it?Jan 18 08:29
DaemonFCI've never used it but every time I hear someone talking about it, it's because it went downJan 18 08:30
sebsebsebwhich?Jan 18 08:31
sebsebsebIdentica or?Jan 18 08:31
sebsebseboh you mean Identica?Jan 18 08:31
DaemonFCyesJan 18 08:31
sebsebseboh it is quite relibleJan 18 08:31
DaemonFCI switched over to Pidgin for my IRC at the momentJan 18 08:31
sebsebsebjust recently it has been down sometimesJan 18 08:31
sebsebseband a bit more so than before I guessJan 18 08:31
sebsebsebbefore the statusnet 1.0 switchJan 18 08:32
DaemonFCwith the helper plugins it's not too badJan 18 08:32
sebsebseband now later it will go down againJan 18 08:32
sebsebsebfor 12 hoursJan 18 08:32
sebsebseb8am to 8pm EDTJan 18 08:32
sebsebsebsince the Sopa stuffJan 18 08:32
DaemonFC2.10.1 fixes some memory leaks that affected the IRC pluginJan 18 08:32
sebsebsebSopa PIPAJan 18 08:32
sebsebsebDaemonFC: quite a few sites already  protestingJan 18 08:32
sebsebsebhttp://mageia.org being one of them not just the English version of Wikipedia and suchJan 18 08:33
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DaemonFCI can still see Wikipedia articles just fineJan 18 08:33
DaemonFCis there some time zone offset or something?Jan 18 08:33
sebsebsebDaemonFC: the English articles?Jan 18 08:33
DaemonFCyeahJan 18 08:33
sebsebsebhmmJan 18 08:33
sebsebseboddJan 18 08:33
sebsebsebit's doing the thing hereJan 18 08:33
sebsebsebyou sure it's not from your cache?Jan 18 08:34
DaemonFCyepJan 18 08:34
sebsebsebalso the Free Software Foudnation sites are protesting at the moentJan 18 08:34
sebsebseband so onJan 18 08:34
DaemonFCFirefox doesn't trust the FSF's SSL certJan 18 08:35
sebsebsebDaemonFC: Have you got Javascript disabled in your browser?Jan 18 08:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] this plugin page is not blacked out: https://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/sopa-blackout/Jan 18 08:37
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DaemonFCnoJan 18 08:37
sebsebsebDaemonFC: Well just seen this: http://identi.ca/notice/88840821Jan 18 08:37
TechrightsBot-tr@zoowar's status on Wednesday, 18-Jan-12 07:59:20 UTC - Identi.ca: Laughing at wikipedia.org because their blackout page relies on javascript. !identicaJan 18 08:37
DaemonFCI'm writing a blog post Jan 18 08:39
DaemonFCit's my thoughts on SOPAJan 18 08:40
sebsebsebDaemonFC: oh okJan 18 08:41
DaemonFCBenjamin Franklin said "A Republic, if you can keep it"Jan 18 08:45
DaemonFCI guess we couldn'tJan 18 08:45
DaemonFC:PJan 18 08:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @jerezim ███████ @LaQuadrature du Net en #BlackOut contre #SOPA #PIPA #ACTA = Censure du Net #Copywrong http://lqdn.frJan 18 08:55
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DaemonFChttp://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/9844.htmlJan 18 08:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: mjg59 | Why UEFI secure boot is difficult for Linux .::. Size~: 35.39 KBJan 18 08:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @carlopiana The best on strike site is http://theoatmeal.com/Jan 18 09:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TheOatmeal.com blacked out in protest of SOPA / PIPA - The Oatmeal .::. Size~: 7.36 KBJan 18 09:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @irinarempt @laurelrusswurm yes, the download thing was normal; the "Installation" link went to blackout. but it's in place now http: ...Jan 18 09:07
schestowitz"our world? isn't it? ^^ " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1194473Jan 18 09:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] Open source needed to save democracy http://ur1.ca/7k30d !linux !fs #democracyJan 18 09:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open source needed to save democracy - Software - News - ZDNet Australia .::. Size~: 115.85 KBJan 18 09:08
schestowitz"Awesome, gotta love my country sometimes. " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1192368Jan 18 09:09
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DaemonFCI've come across some PCs with uEFI pretending it is a BIOSJan 18 09:09
DaemonFCthrough a Compatibility Support ModuleJan 18 09:09
DaemonFCbut obviously nothing with Secure Boot since there's nothing shipping like that yetJan 18 09:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] And so we are entering The Great Internet Blackout of 2012 #SOPA #PIPA #ACTAJan 18 09:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Microsoft says it opposes #SOPA ‘as currently drafted’ - http://bit.ly/xBDP8v lots of wiggle room there, but better than nothingJan 18 09:12
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sebsebsebschestowitz: DaemonFC Oh read about the cupcakes before, but here's some more: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120116/22570917432/bakery-creates-tsa-safe-cupcakes-after-tsa-defends-its-confiscation-dangerous-cupcakes.shtmlJan 18 09:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bakery Creates TSA-Safe Cupcakes After TSA Defends Its Confiscation Of 'Dangerous' Cupcakes | Techdirt .::. Size~: 117.17 KBJan 18 09:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A technical examination of #SOPA and PROTECT IP - http://bit.ly/wfG0zr another excellent run-through of what the key issues areJan 18 09:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] it is only wikipedia.en that is closing downJan 18 09:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: blog.reddit -- what's new on reddit: A technical examination of SOPA and PROTECT IP .::. Size~: 74.72 KBJan 18 09:18
DaemonFCDemonoid is downJan 18 09:21
DaemonFCSOPA protestJan 18 09:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Not Piracy - http://bit.ly/x42aMc a short reminder that it's a metaphor, and a bad one #sopaJan 18 09:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ongoing by Tim Bray · Not Piracy .::. Size~: 7.81 KBJan 18 09:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] LibreOffice pages are black today in protest of SOPA and PIPA: http://www.libreoffice.orgJan 18 09:23
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DaemonFCMozilla's Brendan Eich compared Google Dart to VBScript and compared Native Client and Pepper to ActiveXJan 18 09:24
MinceRare they really that bad? :>Jan 18 09:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @glynmoody: Not Piracy - http://bit.ly/x42aMc a short reminder that it's a metaphor, and a bad one #sopaJan 18 09:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ongoing by Tim Bray · Not Piracy .::. Size~: 7.81 KBJan 18 09:25
DaemonFCwell, Microsoft wasn't licensing VBScript and ActiveX under the Apache license at any point that I'm aware ofJan 18 09:25
DaemonFCand they were not an improvement on Javascript and NPAPIJan 18 09:25
DaemonFCjust incompatible for the sake of being incompatibleJan 18 09:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Mistruths, Insults from the #Copyright Lobby Over HR 3699 - http://bit.ly/zJHKvu great debunking of lies about scientific publishing #oaJan 18 09:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] NatPost thinks #SOPA "might" block foreign websites from the US. WRONG. Not just in US, on the INTERNET. http://www.ur1.ca/7k34o !CDNpoliJan 18 09:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mistruths, Insults from the Copyright Lobby Over HR 3699 | EvoEcoLab, Scientific American Blog Network .::. Size~: 109.36 KBJan 18 09:27
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DaemonFCit would be nice if Mozilla could quit their bitching about Dart and Native Client and Pepper and instead ask Google to submit them to the ISO/ECMA or somethingJan 18 09:27
DaemonFCI wouldn't be comfortable with Google being the only one that could define something like thatJan 18 09:27
schestowitzhttp://www.androidguys.com/2012/01/17/woz-admits-android-does-things-better-than-iphone/Jan 18 09:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Woz admits Android does things better than iPhoneAndroidGuys .::. Size~: 43.01 KBJan 18 09:27
schestowitzheheJan 18 09:27
DaemonFCyeah, Steve Wozniak loves AndroidJan 18 09:28
MinceRwhoaJan 18 09:28
MinceRwozo's RDF is fading?Jan 18 09:28
DaemonFChe showed up at Google for a photo opJan 18 09:28
DaemonFCthey gave him an ANdroid 4 phoneJan 18 09:28
DaemonFCthat has to piss Apple offJan 18 09:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody Not Piracy - http://bit.ly/x42aMc a short reminder that it's a metaphor, and a bad one #sopaJan 18 09:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @laquadrature SOPA = PIPA = ACTA = Censure ! http://lqdn.fr/node/5014Jan 18 09:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody A technical examination of #SOPA and PROTECT IP - http://bit.ly/wfG0zr another excellent run-through of what the key issue ...Jan 18 09:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @neptune78 RT: @thechurchmouse Given #wikipediablackout it will be interesting tosee whetherthe accuracy of tomorrow's newspapers inc ...Jan 18 09:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @docufoundation LibreOffice pages are black today in protest of SOPA and PIPA: http://www.libreoffice.orgJan 18 09:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Motorola DROID 3 Now $99 http://ur1.ca/7k3aj better than hypePhone http://goo.gl/eg9DD #linuxJan 18 09:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ongoing by Tim Bray · Not Piracy .::. Size~: 7.81 KBJan 18 09:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SOPA = PIPA = ACTA = Censure ! | La Quadrature du Net .::. Size~: 27.7 KBJan 18 09:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: blog.reddit -- what's new on reddit: A technical examination of SOPA and PROTECT IP .::. Size~: 74.72 KBJan 18 09:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Lamar Smith & Bosses Call Wikipedia Blackout As Stunt http://ur1.ca/7k3bc #sopaJan 18 09:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] PIPA/#SOPA and Why You Should Care - http://bit.ly/xj5H9a great physical analogy of how they harm from boss of #mozillaJan 18 09:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody PIPA/#SOPA and Why You Should Care - http://bit.ly/xj5H9a great physical analogy of how they harm from boss of #mozillaJan 18 09:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] SOPA Blackout: January 18, 2011 http://ur1.ca/7k3crJan 18 09:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Last Call: CSS Basic User Interface Module Level 3 (CSS3 UI) http://ow.ly/1gMwOtJan 18 09:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: PBS NewsHour - Google+ - Wikipedia, Craigslist, Google, Boing Boing, Wordpress and… .::. Size~: 58.66 KBJan 18 09:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] W3C Invites Implementations of Navigation Timing http://ow.ly/1gMwOsJan 18 09:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] This Site Has Been Shut Down Due To Possible Copyright Infringement http://goo.gl/UR9Bi #sopa #monopoly #censorshipJan 18 09:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Blog of Helios: This Site Has Been Shut Down Due To Possible Copyright Infringement .::. Size~: 65.63 KBJan 18 09:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux-ready multitouch PC has huge 65-inch screen, quad-core CPU http://goo.gl/hV3kX #linux #deviceJan 18 09:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Crash and Burn Future of Robot Warfare - http://bit.ly/xI5lSW great piece about the future of war - #drones - & how they go wrongJan 18 09:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux-ready multitouch PC has huge 65-inch screen, quad-core CPU - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 58.38 KBJan 18 09:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux for the 'Longterm http://ur1.ca/7k3i7 #linux #kernelJan 18 09:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] What #SOPA means around the world – literally - http://tnw.co/vZ0Oxw cool: what "sopa" means in various languages #linguisticsJan 18 09:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Shared a post "LibreOffice pages are black today in protest of SOPA and PIPA: http://ur1.ca/1snbj" https://plus... http://b1t.it/axzYJan 18 09:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Are Your Linux Skills Right for HPC Jobs? http://goo.gl/399SQ #linux #hpc #serverJan 18 09:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Teach Yourself with Anki: Open Source Flashcards on Linux http://goo.gl/r67vj #anki #linuxJan 18 09:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] D66-politica gaat EU-onderzoek internetvrijheid leiden - http://bit.ly/wUWUSh good news: @MarietjeD66 reporting on #net #freedom for #euJan 18 09:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] ... Maar ik WIL geen Photoshop en Microsoft Windows. Ik prefereer (Ubuntu) GNU/Linux met The Gimp (gratis, vrij en legaal)!Jan 18 09:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Internet Archive: 12 Hours Dark: Internet Archive vs. Censorship http://www.ur1.ca/7k3mc #Wayback #SOPA #PIPA #BLACKOUTJan 18 09:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #spain: 40 percent server and 15 percent public admin desktops deploy #opensource - http://bit.ly/wdmaDv impressive if confirmedJan 18 09:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux should copy Apple on user rapport http://ur1.ca/7k3mw #bruceperensJan 18 09:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: A twitter account that retweets wikipedia users who cannot read a simple banner. @herpderpedia #sopaJan 18 09:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Gudrun moet je daarvoor gediplomeerd zijn? ;) Ooit wil ik dat echt eens doen. (kan sowieso helaas agen http://ur1. ...Jan 18 09:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @glynmoody: PIPA/#SOPA and Why You Should Care - http://bit.ly/xj5H9a great physical analogy of how they harm from boss of #mozillaJan 18 09:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Not Piracy - by Tim Bray http://ur1.ca/7k3npJan 18 09:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Als je al een cursus nodig hebt om iets zinnigs met het peperdure Photoshop te kunnen doen, kan je net zo goed overstappen op de GIMPJan 18 09:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux lovers should try FreeBSD for stable systems http://goo.gl/POGkV usually no compelling reasons to switchJan 18 09:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Why SOPA Is Dangerous http://mashable.com/2012/01/17/sopa-dangerous-opinion/ ... #SOPA makes it a FELONY to post a !copyright songJan 18 09:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: glyn moody - Google+ - Not Piracy - http://bit.ly/x42aMc a short reminder that… .::. Size~: 45.66 KBJan 18 09:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ZevenOS - Does it recapture the flavor of BeOS? http://ur1.ca/7k3oe #beosJan 18 09:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] MPAA's Chris Dodd: Blackouts Turn Users Into “Corporate Pawns” - http://tcrn.ch/x2z62y users are intellectual slaves of copyright companiesJan 18 10:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Existing law allows the US to extradite this UK student who has broken no UK law ... http://www.ur1.ca/7jbw5 BEFORE #SOPA #PIPAJan 18 10:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MPAA CEO Chris Dodd: Blackouts Turn Users Into “Corporate Pawns” | TechCrunch .::. Size~: 66.61 KBJan 18 10:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Who, besides Wikipedia, is going dark http://ur1.ca/7k3rw #sopaJan 18 10:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] In a few short hours Identi.ca will be offline to protest #SOPA from 8AM-8PM EST. http://ur1.ca/7hrxcJan 18 10:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Who, besides Wikipedia, is going dark and why | ZDNet .::. Size~: 146.15 KBJan 18 10:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz Who, besides Wikipedia, is going dark http://ur1.ca/7k3rw #sopaJan 18 10:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Grumpy Rupert Murdoch says ‘many’ #SOPA supporting senators have skedaddled - http://tnw.co/ygj7UJ how dare they think for themselvesJan 18 10:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Who Isn't Talking About SOPA? http://ur1.ca/7jo56 #SOPA #PIPA #BLACKOUTJan 18 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Some RPGs on Linux http://ur1.ca/7k3tr #gnu #linux #gamesJan 18 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "The Day the LOLcats Died" - the awesome #PIPA and #SOPA protest song: https://eff.org/r.1P4Jan 18 10:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Ben NanoNote – The World’s Smallest Linux Laptop? http://goo.gl/N15nT #linux #NanoNoteJan 18 10:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Shared a post "And never forget: the blackout you see today wrt #SOPA is what people in china and many arab countries ... http://b1t.it/axANJan 18 10:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Peter Gabriel http://petergabriel.com/ and Ashton Kutcher on #SOPA http://www.ur1.ca/7jrof #PIPA #BLACKOUTJan 18 10:10
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sebsebsebschestowitz: Watch the video here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16590585Jan 18 10:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mandriva Delays Bankruptcy Decision http://ur1.ca/7k3wv #mandriva #gnu #linux #russiaJan 18 10:12
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sebsebsebTechrightsBot-tr: watch the video here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16590585Jan 18 10:12
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ThistleWebo/Jan 18 10:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Wikipedia, Identi.ca, Tumblr., Reddit, FSF, GNU, Defective by Design, LibrePlanet, Windows 7 Sins & PlayOgg gone/going dark #SOPA #PIPA.Jan 18 10:13
sebsebsebThistleWeb: oh it was your dent I got that fromJan 18 10:14
sebsebsebit turns outJan 18 10:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] And never forget: the blackout you see today wrt #SOPA is what people in china and many arab countries experience EVERY DAY. #justsayinJan 18 10:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] - I'm the rightful copyright owner of the phrase "corporate pawns". MPAA is illegally using this phrase and I demand t... http://b1t.it/axATJan 18 10:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] The #BLACKOUT list swells ... http://www.ur1.ca/7jw1f #NETIZENday #SOPA #PIPAJan 18 10:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] LCA2012: Bruce Perens Says Open Source Needs To Do More http://goo.gl/qFU1b #lca #linuxJan 18 10:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nandan Vaidya - Google+ - - I'm the rightful copyright owner of the phrase "corporate… .::. Size~: 48.54 KBJan 18 10:15
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*schestowitz craving CrivinsJan 18 10:15
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sebsebsebnearly time for Identica to go down, and quite a lot of sites  already areJan 18 10:15
sebsebsebincludingJan 18 10:15
sebsebsebhttp://mageia.orgJan 18 10:15
ThistleWeblolJan 18 10:15
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ThistleWebyeah mine are dark as from midnight last night for 24hrsJan 18 10:15
sebsebsebquite interesting what they done actusaly with the wiki how a lot of stuff is blacked outJan 18 10:15
sebsebsebThistleWeb: yep saw that last night, since yoru dents coming in hereJan 18 10:16
sebsebsebyour message was quite good as well reallyJan 18 10:16
ThistleWebinitially I'd done it with maintenence mode, as I figured it's be the easiest, until I found a lil javascript snippit, so I changed itJan 18 10:16
ThistleWebstill darkJan 18 10:16
sebsebsebonly thing is I had to high light the text, before I could read it properlyJan 18 10:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mozilla slows pace of Firefox 9 upgrades http://ur1.ca/7k3zb #firefoxJan 18 10:17
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ThistleWebyeah some parts of the css are a bit hard to read, they don't get used much so I kinda miss themJan 18 10:18
DaemonFCthis is a first for Identi.ca Jan 18 10:18
DaemonFCPLANNED downtimeJan 18 10:18
DaemonFCoh myJan 18 10:18
DaemonFC:)Jan 18 10:18
ThistleWebno taxation without representation - if politicians represent corps over the people; who represents the people? why do people pay tax?Jan 18 10:18
ThistleWebif the entire tax burdon comes down to corps, we're screwed, they routinely evade it, leaving regular folks to pay it all....without a voiceJan 18 10:18
DaemonFCThistleWeb: Taxation WITH representation ain't so hot eitherJan 18 10:18
DaemonFC;)Jan 18 10:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] TOR: Why we are taking part in the #SOPA #blackout: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/blackout-against-copyright-overreach-stop-sopa-and-pipaJan 18 10:19
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ThistleWebI didn;t bother with heybuddy as i thought identica was down until I saw laurels post hereJan 18 10:19
DaemonFCThe IRS is out of controlJan 18 10:19
DaemonFCthey basically operate by committing extortion against the poor and the middle classJan 18 10:19
DaemonFCmaking up bogus figures of money you "owe" them that is a high amount, but to where it would cost you more to fight it than to just pay them to go awayJan 18 10:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if the entire tax burdon comes down to corps, we're screwed, they routinely evade it, leaving regular folks to pay it all....without a voiceJan 18 10:20
ThistleWebmaybe that's why the tea party are so rabid on that message; if govt dont make all their campagns law, they're not being represented, therefor they shouldnt be expected to pay any taxesJan 18 10:20
DaemonFCI'm not against the concept of taxationJan 18 10:21
DaemonFCit is a necessary evilJan 18 10:21
ThistleWebit isJan 18 10:21
DaemonFCbut the system in the US is regressiveJan 18 10:22
DaemonFCand the IRS is a bunch of thugsJan 18 10:22
DaemonFCand the money they take in is only enough to pay the interest on the outstanding debtJan 18 10:22
DaemonFCwhich is really how the government funds itselfJan 18 10:22
ThistleWebmy history is hazy, but didn';t the US base their entire moral campaign for splitting from the UK on that idea?Jan 18 10:22
ThistleWebif they are not represented, why are they taxedJan 18 10:22
DaemonFCwell, not really the whole thingJan 18 10:23
ThistleWebI know that, but it was a large factorJan 18 10:23
DaemonFCyeahJan 18 10:23
DaemonFCthe bitch of it is that the "tea tax" wasn't even that muchJan 18 10:23
ThistleWebit was also the moral line they helped to sell the cause as "just"Jan 18 10:23
ThistleWebit's a concept you can't really argue againstJan 18 10:24
DaemonFCThistleWeb: It's easier to rebel when word of it won't reach the people you're rebelling against for monthsJan 18 10:24
DaemonFCand by then it will be too late for them to do much about itJan 18 10:24
ThistleWebthats trueJan 18 10:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] First One Down: Rep. Lee Terry Removes His Name As A #SOPA Co-Sponsor - http://bit.ly/zBq8hC next, pleaseJan 18 10:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Photography software for Linux http://ur1.ca/7k43n #gnu #linux #fossJan 18 10:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Oxygen-gtk3 1.0 is out http://ur1.ca/7jtjf #kde #gnome #gtkJan 18 10:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Battery Life in #Ubuntu Precise 12.04 LTS http://ur1.ca/6pj02 #linuxJan 18 10:25
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ThistleWebI note the BBC are still running the official line that SOPA is about "stopping piracy"Jan 18 10:25
DaemonFCThistleWeb: The US government has managed to "deal" with people who don't want to pay taxes and go into debt for crap they don't needJan 18 10:26
DaemonFCby means of calling them "terrorists" and sending the ATF out after themJan 18 10:26
DaemonFCThistleWeb: The term piracy has been piratedJan 18 10:27
DaemonFCnow whenever there's a story about pirates you don't know if a ship has been hijackedJan 18 10:27
DaemonFCor if a middle class mother of 3 copied some MP3sJan 18 10:28
DaemonFC:)Jan 18 10:28
ThistleWebyeah that's got nothing to do with the posterboy for torrent sites using a pirate ship as their logoJan 18 10:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] With Code.Nasa.Gov, Agency Steps Up Hunt for Its Open-Source Software Projects http://goo.gl/aoLxA #nasa #opensourceJan 18 10:28
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DaemonFCunlicensed copying is much less of a scandalous term than piracyJan 18 10:29
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I5dVBezF9kJan 18 10:29
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DaemonFC:)Jan 18 10:29
ThistleWebya know, the thing that concrened me about taking part in the blackout, was how to time it, being GMT, and remembering to reverse itJan 18 10:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open source needed to save democracy http://ur1.ca/7k30d #linux #auJan 18 10:30
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DaemonFCyou know, it would be better if someone DDoSed the white house or the US Congress or somethingJan 18 10:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Making the transition from RDBMS to #Hadoop http://ur1.ca/7k46s #dbJan 18 10:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #BBC still taking the old guard propaganda line on what #SOPA is about - shame on them, they are SUPPOSED to be quality & accurate newsJan 18 10:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Successful start for Hydrological Open Source Community http://goo.gl/pIo0W #opensourceJan 18 10:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Btrfs In Linux 3.3 Brings Reworked Balance Code http://ur1.ca/7k49f #btrfs #linuxJan 18 10:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] January 18 captured: A #SOPA blackout gallery http://ur1.ca/7k49r #internetJan 18 10:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @laquadrature La Quadrature du Net signs civil society statement against #PIPA http://is.gd/7wtwsk #SOPA #ACTA #CensorshipJan 18 10:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @thistleweb #BBC still taking the old guard propaganda line on what #SOPA is about - shame on them, they are SUPPOSED to be quality & ...Jan 18 10:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz Open source needed to save democracy http://ur1.ca/7k30d #linux #auJan 18 10:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody First One Down: Rep. Lee Terry Removes His Name As A #SOPA Co-Sponsor - http://bit.ly/zBq8hC next, pleaseJan 18 10:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @ovruni ♻ @erack: ♻ @floeff: #LibreOffice pages are black today in protest of #SOPA and #PIPA: http://ur1.ca/1snbjJan 18 10:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @thistleweb no taxation without representation - if politicians represent corps over the people; who represents the people? why do pe ...Jan 18 10:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Commission seizes power to adopt certain measures blink-blink http://goo.gl/FVymM #euCommission #europeJan 18 10:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Good night netizens !tzafJan 18 10:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Check out the brand new @EFF activism platform for fighting the #blacklist bills: https://eff.org/r.3PF #J18 #SOPABlackout #SOPAJan 18 10:43
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/mgeist/statuses/159384962737512448Jan 18 10:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #SOPA #PIPA #ACTA is about █████ the █████ in █████ ██████████. That... http://b1t.it/axCkJan 18 10:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] U.S. movie piracy claims mostly fiction http://ur1.ca/7k4ms #copyright #propagandaJan 18 10:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] Started work on #sipwitch plugin for #friendica. Friendica offers distributed social networking through free software anyone can runJan 18 10:58
sebsebsebThistleWeb: Something I noticed when I listended to the Crivins pillot, when talking about other audiocasts, you didn't mention Techbytes at all, even though you were on many episodes before.Jan 18 10:59
ThistleWebyeah I didn't wanna do too much self promoJan 18 10:59
sebsebseboh?Jan 18 11:00
ThistleWebI have talked a little on and off about techbytes on other shsowsJan 18 11:00
ThistleWebshows*Jan 18 11:00
sebsebsebsuch as?Jan 18 11:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Warsaw Hackerspace in solidarity with the US anti-#SOPA/anti-#PIPA blackout: http://hackerspace.pl @hackerspaceplJan 18 11:00
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ThistleWeboffhand, the show just before christmas, about predictionsJan 18 11:00
sebsebseboh got a link for that?Jan 18 11:00
ThistleWebepisode 4 I thinkJan 18 11:01
sebsebsebThistleWeb: you made Techbytes quite good when you were on it before, oh sure there's Rusty now, but that's differnetJan 18 11:01
ThistleWeblol, you ask for a link today?Jan 18 11:01
sebsebsebThistleWeb: oh right yeah the site for thatJan 18 11:01
sebsebsebmay be down under SOPA/ PIPAJan 18 11:01
sebsebsebis that what you mean?Jan 18 11:01
ThistleWeblook at unseenstudio.co.ukJan 18 11:02
sebsebsebyep I did last nightJan 18 11:02
ThistleWebI mean it's joined the sopa balckoutJan 18 11:02
sebsebseband read your mesasge, after highiting it, went to your blog site as well,  saw both sites,   and had seen the dents about that come in hereJan 18 11:02
ThistleWebI did the "maintenence mode" protest last night, because I figured it'd be easiestJan 18 11:02
sebsebsebyep :)Jan 18 11:02
sebsebsebok so this other thing is on unseenstudioes?Jan 18 11:02
sebsebsebwell when back up againJan 18 11:02
ThistleWebthen today i found a javascript snippet that works better,m so I changed itJan 18 11:02
ThistleWeb24hrs, midnight to midnightJan 18 11:03
sebsebsebI know there's cirvins and Tuxjam on there, but I thought that was itJan 18 11:03
ThistleWebI'm confusedJan 18 11:03
ThistleWebyou mean the list of cool shows?Jan 18 11:03
ThistleWebI'm hoping others can join that and build up that selectionJan 18 11:04
ThistleWebby adding short descriptions, links etcJan 18 11:04
sebsebseb1. I know your sites are doing SOPA/PIpa.  2. I know unseenstuiod hosts cirvins and Tuxjam.  3.  I was wondering if there was a link to some other audiocast you were on as a guest or whatever.Jan 18 11:04
ThistleWebI only put a few up for folks to get the ideaJan 18 11:04
ThistleWebhackerpublicradio.org you can search by hostJan 18 11:04
sebsebseboh you been on hackerpublicradio interestingJan 18 11:05
sebsebsebthat's where this really good crunhbang interview was I thinkJan 18 11:05
ThistleWebyeah, I've done about 8 ish epsJan 18 11:05
sebsebsebwith the guy who started Crunchbang and his wifeJan 18 11:05
ThistleWebI was on the new year HPR specialJan 18 11:05
sebsebsebHPR ???Jan 18 11:05
ThistleWebwhich turned into like 8 episodes, I;m on some of those epsidesJan 18 11:05
ThistleWebHPR = hackerpublicradioJan 18 11:05
sebsebseboh ok :)Jan 18 11:06
sebsebsebI'll give those a listen, but not yetJan 18 11:06
sebsebsebWhat about when you were on some other show as a guest, and then back to doing Techbytes? last yearJan 18 11:07
ThistleWebyeah TINAPJan 18 11:07
sebsebsebTINAP ???Jan 18 11:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Orphan Works and the Digital Copyright Exchange - http://bit.ly/zIVC9A some thoughts #hargreaves #dce #ukJan 18 11:08
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sebsebseb!google TINAPJan 18 11:09
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - This Is Not A Podcast (tinap) group - Identi.ca | http://identi.ca/group/tinapJan 18 11:09
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - This is not a podcast | http://notapodcast.tumblr.com/Jan 18 11:09
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Urban Dictionary: tinap | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php%3Fterm%3DtinapJan 18 11:09
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - #tinap review | Cannon-Linux | http://www.cannon-linux.co.uk/2011/04/tinap-review/Jan 18 11:09
sebsebseboh ok :)Jan 18 11:09
ThistleWebhttp://notapodcast.tumblr.com/post/4685758722/3-my-unicycle-has-a-punctureJan 18 11:10
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sebsebsebanyway just under two hours, and Identica will go downJan 18 11:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 18/1/2012: Btrfs In Linux 3.3, Oxygen-gtk3 1.0, Woz Says Android Better Than hypePhone http://goo.gl/yHOYW #techrightsJan 18 11:10
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DaemonFCall my favorite sites are down protesting SOPAJan 18 11:10
DaemonFCI may just go watch some TVJan 18 11:10
DaemonFC:PJan 18 11:10
sebsebsebThistleWeb: Ok thanks for the link :).Jan 18 11:11
ThistleWebmost anti-sopa blackout sites won't be noticed because they're niche to an audience that's already clued up and agree......wikipedia is differentJan 18 11:11
sebsebsebtrueJan 18 11:11
sebsebsebhoweverJan 18 11:11
ThistleWebmine have 10's or 100's of visitors, so are a tiny drop in a huge bucket.....but I'm just one voice of manyJan 18 11:11
sebsebsebhttp://strikesopa.com has a lot of sites listedJan 18 11:12
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sebsebsebhttp://sopastrike.comJan 18 11:12
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sebsebsebI meant to putJan 18 11:12
sebsebsebwas thinking to much about the correct name, so had it wrong, even though was just looking at the URL from Firefox :DJan 18 11:12
ThistleWebapparently govt staff rely on wikipedia a LOT, so they're gonna notice that despite their bosses bosses insistance, it is a big deal that could affect their re-ellection hopesJan 18 11:12
sebsebsebyep that's something Wikipedia going down the Engilsh versionJan 18 11:13
sebsebsebshame Facebook isn't going down for 24 hours as well though for example or even Google :DJan 18 11:13
ThistleWebI'd love to have seen twitter, google and facebook all go black tooJan 18 11:13
sebsebseband yep Twitter as wellJan 18 11:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] interested what other !fellows of !fsfe do about !freesoftware and !gnu related stuff? Read http://planet.fsfe.org (+other languages)Jan 18 11:13
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sebsebsebThistleWeb: also maybe FSFE should be down as well reallyJan 18 11:14
sebsebsebnot just the American Free Software Foundation sitesJan 18 11:14
ThistleWebthe point is, that knowledge of the bill, it's effects and the reactions to it, are making mainstream news because of wikipediaJan 18 11:14
sebsebsebsomething I checked last night, to see if FSFE was down as well or notJan 18 11:14
ThistleWebthe mainstream news ignore it normally because they are supportersJan 18 11:14
sebsebsebThistleWeb: on that BBC link, you saw the video I assume as well,  the other guy in it talking to them hmm, but he was from the movie industry or whatever naywayJan 18 11:15
sebsebsebso yeahJan 18 11:15
ThistleWebfinally the BBC do stories about SOPA, not just as some side mention of some incidental extra part of the storyJan 18 11:15
ThistleWeball because of wikipediaJan 18 11:15
schestowitzyeahJan 18 11:16
ThistleWebthey have to find a reason to explain why wikipedia is down, by doing their "journalistic duty" in explaining sopa in simple termsJan 18 11:16
sebsebsebwell yeah loads of people use Wikipedia, so yepJan 18 11:16
ThistleWebunfortunatly, their "experts" seem to be parroting the old guard propaganda of "piracy"Jan 18 11:16
sebsebsebyepJan 18 11:17
ThistleWebif they didn't mention the wiki story, folks would ask quastionsJan 18 11:17
sebsebsebyepJan 18 11:17
ThistleWebimagine if youtube went dark tooJan 18 11:18
sebsebsebindeedJan 18 11:18
sebsebsebwell I did rea something about how maybe loads of people would put their videos to private altough that was just on redditJan 18 11:18
sebsebsebjust in the commentsJan 18 11:18
sebsebsebanyway that would have been goodJan 18 11:18
ThistleWebschestowitz: is techrights black today?Jan 18 11:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] it's actually very hard to write a piece if you can only choose every other word...Jan 18 11:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] as will manyJan 18 11:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @scheeinfo: @yurukov @timdream @yorkxin U.S. House goes live with machine-readable legislative data http http://p.ost.im/p/eackYQJan 18 11:22
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ThistleWebI love the subtle message on that javascript "click to continue"; about "it's easy for folks who really want to, to get around your censorship, so your stated goal won't work even if it was appropriate to the problemJan 18 11:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @mariocampolargo: FET Proactive Info day just started. Glad to see the large interest it generates. More http://p.ost.im/p/eaTDwcJan 18 11:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @euonymblog: Well this could be useful! MT @OpenTrainTimes: We've just gone live! http://t.co/inKRIA4m http://p.ost.im/p/ea7JNtJan 18 11:23
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DaemonFCThistleWeb: I liked the pirate bay's "censorship"Jan 18 11:24
DaemonFCyou resize the browser and you get a peak behind the black boxJan 18 11:24
DaemonFC:PJan 18 11:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @jwildeboer: never forget: the blackout you see today wrt #SOPA is what people in china and many arab countries experience EVERY DAYJan 18 11:25
ThistleWebI love the black screen with javascript spotlight that's doing the reoundsJan 18 11:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Orphan Works and the Digital Copyright Exchange - http://bit.ly/zIVC9A some thoughts #hargreaves #dce #ukJan 18 11:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] xkcd on #SOPA - http://xkcd.com/ points out that sharing helped spread word and built his business model (v @SinkDeep)Jan 18 11:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] SOPA și PIPA închid Web-ul http://ur1.ca/7k50l #sopa #pipa #romania #censorship #web #internetJan 18 11:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Shared a post "xkcd on #SOPA - http://xkcd.com/ points out that sharing helped spread word and built his business mode... http://b1t.it/axEiJan 18 11:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The netizens saying NO to #SOPA #PIPA in one word: #internjet :-) via +Peter Glaser - thank you!Jan 18 12:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Acțiuni la nivel internațional împotriva propunerilor legislative din SUA privind cenzura pe Internet (PIPA şi SOPA) http://ur1.ca/7k55jJan 18 12:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Flickr joins in the #SOPA #PIPA protest..... sort of ! http://ur1.ca/7k56cJan 18 12:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Manifestul Regal http://ur1.ca/5fckc #romania #protest #revolt #monarchy #bucharest #royalJan 18 12:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Good ending to Day 3 #lca2012. PDNS was great.Jan 18 12:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] I've been told that the US constitution does not provide for "no taxation without representation" - go figure.Jan 18 12:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzag Identizens.Jan 18 12:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] .... and then you lose your right to vote... (at least in some states from what I am told.)Jan 18 12:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Reclamações de concursos públicos ilegais denunciadas pela @ANSOL em http://ur1.ca/6zlur vão ser investigadas pelo Provedor de JustiçaJan 18 12:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Red Hat Enterprise Virtualization event live Jan 18 - http://ur1.ca/7k5fgJan 18 12:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] The Day The LolCats Died! http://ur1.ca/7k5g2 #fbJan 18 12:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Nieuwe blogpost: de waarheid over mijn #schulden en Microsoft #stalker http://is.gd/3fDlTK #deurwaarder #bewindvoering #leugensJan 18 12:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] gotta remove forward functionality from all email clients at least. perhaps kill all email. hey, all ability to communicate?Jan 18 12:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: My blog on how to make 2012 the year of active ageing and solidarity between generations http://p.ost.im/p/emJ3DTJan 18 12:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: How old is too old ? http://t.co/kT7wptJl #ey2012 http://p.ost.im/p/emYhfWJan 18 12:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Breaking down the gender divide in !opensource and open culture - Australian Techworld http://ow.ly/8wZ0ZJan 18 13:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] From yesterdays mostly unproductive stumbling around I now see that the cmp or diff may help me.Jan 18 13:03
oiaohmhttp://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/rim-shares-jump-on-talk-of-possible-sale-to-samsung/article2305436Jan 18 13:16
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oiaohmInterestingJan 18 13:16
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Aondohttp://graphicall.org/ - nice input :)Jan 18 13:44
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iophkOn some browsers, LibreOffice's web page goes black:Jan 18 14:09
iophkhttp://www.libreoffice.org/Jan 18 14:09
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XFaCEhow's everyone's blackout day?Jan 18 14:51
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MinceRstressfulJan 18 14:52
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MinceRalso sleepyJan 18 14:52
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XFaCEsounds consistent to my dayJan 18 14:52
XFaCEstupid ice rainJan 18 14:52
XFaCEstupid freezing temperaturesJan 18 14:53
XFaCEstupid slow windshield scrapersJan 18 14:53
XFaCEOn the plus side, I am practicing a IRL blackoutJan 18 14:53
XFaCEcomplete with PPCA sweatshirt :DJan 18 14:53
MinceR:)Jan 18 14:54
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XFaCEMinceR: What are you doing for it?Jan 18 15:38
MinceRnothingJan 18 15:38
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cubezzzIRL?Jan 18 15:41
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-RichiH-[Global Notice] Hi all. We just blogged about SOPA/PIPA on http://blog.freenode.net/2012/01/on-sopapipa/ and suggest you join ##sopa if you are interested in these proposed bills or other discussion around this general topic. As always, have a nice day and thanks for flying freenode air!Jan 18 16:07
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XFaCEcubezzz: Yes, IRLJan 18 16:14
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cubezzz10 years of support for a given OS would be niceJan 18 16:36
cubezzzI suppose one could set up a repository for an old OSJan 18 16:37
ThistleWeb\o/ for windows 98......oh wait, hang on, 1, 2, 3.....no, can we extend that a tad beyond 10yrs?Jan 18 16:37
cubezzzThistleWeb, I mean linux/bsd distrosJan 18 16:37
cubezzzseems that the upgrade cycle is 6 months nowJan 18 16:38
cubezzzat least for some distrosJan 18 16:38
MinceRwell, use other distros, then :>Jan 18 16:38
iophkstudent paper: http://www.michigandaily.com/news/students-react-wikipedia-blackoutJan 18 16:38
MinceRor if you want n00buntu, use an LTS releaseJan 18 16:38
cubezzzMinceR, there's no fc1 repoJan 18 16:38
MinceRnot even in a different place?Jan 18 16:39
MinceRubuntu likes to move their old repos to another domainJan 18 16:39
MinceRmaybe debian does that too, maybe so does fedoraJan 18 16:39
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cubezzzthere was Fedora legacy, but it's gone nowJan 18 16:39
ThistleWeb6mth cycle is the obsession with the latest and greatestJan 18 16:39
ThistleWebdifferent strokes for different folks, I don't like cutting edge personally, it's not stable enough for my tastesJan 18 16:39
cubezzzThistleWeb, but some of us use really old Jan 18 16:40
cubezzzactually very old slackware is still aroundJan 18 16:40
ThistleWebtrue, it is a trade offJan 18 16:40
MinceR"if i want cutting edge, i'll buy a sword. if i want bleeding edge, i'll use it."Jan 18 16:40
cubezzzI might check out arch, been hearing good things about itJan 18 16:41
ThistleWebI thought ages ago that a yr cycle might be a better ideaJan 18 16:41
ThistleWebrather than 6mthsJan 18 16:41
ThistleWebgives a reasonable newness, and better tested and more stableJan 18 16:42
cubezzzbtw, wikipedia still works if you turn off javascript :)Jan 18 16:42
ThistleWebthey all doJan 18 16:42
ThistleWebthat's the point of the protest, anyone with a little technical knowledge and determination will get around your blocksJan 18 16:42
cubezzzah, I seeJan 18 16:43
ThistleWebsubtle, huhJan 18 16:43
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ThistleWebI think it's rather elegantJan 18 16:43
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cubezzzperma-nixJan 18 16:45
cubezzz;-)Jan 18 16:45
cubezzzperma-nix never expires Jan 18 16:45
ThistleWebarguably arch but not quite on the bleeding edgeJan 18 16:45
cubezzzI actually got Yggdrasil workingJan 18 16:46
MinceRif it's permanent, you just need all the packages on some diskJan 18 16:46
MinceRno need for internet access to a repo :>Jan 18 16:46
ThistleWebthe whole javascript bypass thing is like pointing out, not only does your plan mean using a nuke to kill a fly, you can't even kill the fly with itJan 18 16:48
ThistleWeball you get is the downsides of the additional damage from the nuke, while the fly happily buzzes onJan 18 16:49
cubezzzwell nukes don't actually get usedJan 18 16:50
cubezzzit's the threat that countsJan 18 16:50
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cubezzzsome things will be driven 'underground' I supposeJan 18 16:52
ThistleWebthe point is that it's so badly drafted for it's publicly stated aim, that it won't even achieve that aimJan 18 16:52
cubezzzI hear a lot of blah-blah about IPJan 18 16:53
cubezzzgood for corps, bad for regular peopleJan 18 16:53
MinceRintellectual monopolies aren't even good for most companiesJan 18 16:56
fewtIPs are bad for people?  How will they ever get on the internet?Jan 18 16:56
fewt /jokeJan 18 16:56
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cubezzzMicrosoft's shakedown worked :-/Jan 18 16:56
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MinceRhttp://stopsoap.com/Jan 18 16:58
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ThistleWebhttp://static.guim.co.uk/gia/interactive/images/20120118sopa.gif  roflJan 18 16:59
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cubezzzwell it's a good idea to store OSes and packagesJan 18 16:59
cubezzzyou never know what the big M will try nextJan 18 16:59
cubezzzwow, arch linux is canadian tooJan 18 17:01
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lightpriest_just when we thought we had a little bit of freedom compared to other countries: http://liorkaplan.wordpress.com/2012/01/14/israel-to-recognize-software-patents/Jan 18 17:31
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schestowitzMicrosoft Tries to Spin Anti-Linux UEFI Measures, Ubuntu Tablets Possibly Affected http://techrights.org/2012/01/18/uefi-roundup/    Death of Novell and Legacy That Remains http://techrights.org/2012/01/18/wordperfect-case-recalled/    Microsoft’s Patent Extortion Against Android Has Microsoft Called a Patent Troll http://techrights.org/2012/01/18/microsoft-troll/    Xamarin and Mono Out of the Radar’s Range http://techrights.org/Jan 18 19:07
schestowitz2012/01/18/xamarin-and-mono-kaput/   ZENworks is Not Dead http://techrights.org/2012/01/18/zenworks-watch/  Novell, Which Gives Its Patents to Microsoft and Apple, Continues to Get More Patents  http://techrights.org/2012/01/18/software-patents-game/    2012: Post-Novell Careers and Moves http://techrights.org/2012/01/18/novell-watchers-moves/ #novell   Why We Stay Online on SOPA Protest Day http://techrights.org/2012/01/18/sopa-Jan 18 19:07
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schestowitzI'll write about 8 more posts tomorrow, they're semi-written already..Jan 18 19:21
schestowitzCan't post 16 in one day,,, info overload for readersJan 18 19:21
fewtHow do you manage to post so many in a day?Jan 18 19:21
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schestowitzfewt: not in a dayJan 18 19:21
schestowitzI collected some yesterdayJan 18 19:22
fewtoicJan 18 19:22
schestowitzso 2 daysJan 18 19:22
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ThistleWebmy faith in channel 4 news fell through the floorJan 18 19:29
ThistleWebI was looking forward to their sopa stuffJan 18 19:29
ThistleWebthey may as well be the MPAAJan 18 19:29
ThistleWebfuckin patheticJan 18 19:29
ThistleWebusually channel 4 news is pretty damn accurate and balanced but this sopa thing was patheticJan 18 19:30
sebsebsebhttp://news.softpedia.com/news/openSUSE-and-Fedora-Protest-Against-SOPA-PIPA-247192.shtmlJan 18 19:30
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sebsebsebFedora site loading up fine for me thoughJan 18 19:30
ThistleWeba statement by the MPAA, an interview with a dutch free speech advocate, and the whole thing came straight outa the MPAA playbookJan 18 19:30
ThistleWebI've never seen them be so blatanly biased beforeJan 18 19:31
ThistleWebin the UK, check out channel 4's +1 or ondemand later for the interviewJan 18 19:31
ThistleWebtime stamp is around 19:25Jan 18 19:31
XFaCEcubezzz: Hell yeah Arch is CanadianJan 18 19:39
XFaCEAlso the choice for my laptopJan 18 19:39
cubezzzso is Vector :)Jan 18 19:39
XFaCEit's still in progress thoughJan 18 19:39
XFaCEeww, proprietary and monoJan 18 19:39
cubezzzseems Canada does OK on FOSSJan 18 19:39
XFaCEbastardized slackwareJan 18 19:39
cubezzzeh?Jan 18 19:39
cubezzzyou don't like vector?Jan 18 19:39
XFaCENot from when I last triedJan 18 19:40
XFaCEI guessJan 18 19:40
XFaCECould be betterJan 18 19:40
sebsebsebThistleWeb: what there's something on TV now worth watching?Jan 18 19:40
cubezzzI'm using vector classic, it's fossJan 18 19:40
XFaCEthough we did write OpenBoxJan 18 19:40
XFaCEit was a woman university student no lessJan 18 19:40
cubezzzno proprietary stuffJan 18 19:40
ThistleWebchannel4 news is usually spot on as a credible news sourceJan 18 19:40
ThistleWebthey're usually not distracted by the usual techniques that the others fall forJan 18 19:41
ThistleWebthey had a spot on the wikipedia / sopa blackout......it was patheticJan 18 19:41
ThistleWebit was so biased, it's not even funnyJan 18 19:41
ThistleWebthe fact that channel4 are usually not like that made it stand out even moreJan 18 19:42
ThistleWebthe whole interview was "piracy is huge, laws like this work and are fair"Jan 18 19:42
schestowitzWhat did ch4say?Jan 18 19:42
ThistleWebI dunno where to startJan 18 19:42
schestowitzhehJan 18 19:42
schestowitzthat says a lotJan 18 19:42
ThistleWebtrust me, it's worth checking on +1 or ondemand at channel4.comJan 18 19:43
schestowitzBBC did a MS whitewashing piece a wile bakcJan 18 19:43
schestowitzand we wrote a massive article to show the BSJan 18 19:43
ThistleWebchannel4 news is arguably the only news source I trust as balancedJan 18 19:43
schestowitzso wikipedia wants to be a "leading pirate:"?Jan 18 19:43
ThistleWebbut this tonight sent my opinion of them through the floorJan 18 19:43
schestowitzif that's possible...Jan 18 19:44
ThistleWebmaybe it's because it affected them as a broadcaster / rights holderJan 18 19:44
schestowitzat least they are not funded by Bill GatesJan 18 19:44
schestowitzAFAIKJan 18 19:44
schestowitzyes, media companies fear wikipediaJan 18 19:44
schestowitzcommodity status forn informationJan 18 19:44
schestowitz*foirJan 18 19:44
ThistleWebI had held them in high esteem.....Jan 18 19:44
schestowitzthey dine and wine with people like RupeJan 18 19:44
schestowitzSimilar interests, similar influences, convictiondsJan 18 19:45
cubezzzyes, back to my comment about Gates and his Dad never talking about wikipediaJan 18 19:45
schestowitzwikipedia always get bad treatment by old guard pressJan 18 19:45
ThistleWebI used to watch other news to get an overview, then channel4 to get the full storyJan 18 19:45
schestowitzthey only talk about it in stories like "students told not to use wikipedia"Jan 18 19:45
schestowitzcubezzz: they sent PR agents to edit wikipediaJan 18 19:45
ThistleWebjon snow interviewed a ducth free speech advocateJan 18 19:45
schestowitzthat's what they do do for wikipediaJan 18 19:46
ThistleWebon sopa / copyright policy etc but it was all from the viewpoint that coulda been written by the mpaaJan 18 19:46
fewtI edited wikipedia last week, and was banned for it.  The change - updating the release version and changing the release notes link.  The reason, my username.Jan 18 19:46
fewtLameJan 18 19:46
ThistleWeball of the assersions, facts, ficgures etc were the same mpaa talking pointsJan 18 19:47
ThistleWebI've never seen them do that beforeJan 18 19:47
ThistleWebthey always go tough on all sidesJan 18 19:47
ThistleWebwell.....until tonightJan 18 19:47
cubezzzmaybe I should start my own Nixo-pedia :)Jan 18 19:47
fewtI don't trust Wikipedia after that.Jan 18 19:47
cubezzznah, crappy nameJan 18 19:48
fewtWikidepiaJan 18 19:48
MinceRgnupedia! ;)Jan 18 19:48
fewt:DJan 18 19:48
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MinceRwikiderpia?Jan 18 19:48
fewt+Jan 18 19:48
cubezzzI've edited wikipedia, no problems so farJan 18 19:48
cubezzzI'm surprised there isn't a gnupedia alreadyJan 18 19:49
iophkThere used to be.Jan 18 19:49
MinceRhm, actually i think it's still thereJan 18 19:49
MinceRjust dormantJan 18 19:49
cubezzzthere's a svn for unix v1 :)Jan 18 19:49
cubezzzso my old distro idea has come trueJan 18 19:50
fewtIt didn't make any sense, I had been doing it whenever I had released for months.  I just think an editor was butthurt, I probably slapped him on the internet somewhere. :DJan 18 19:50
cubezzzwikipedia is pretty good though, of course it's not perfectJan 18 19:51
sebsebsebcubezzz: Have you got Javascript disabled in your browser?Jan 18 19:54
cubezzzit's on at the momentJan 18 19:54
cubezzzI turn it off and on as neededJan 18 19:54
sebsebsebcubezzz: right well, apparnatly disabling Javasript is the way round Wikipedia's blackoutJan 18 19:54
sebsebsebgoing by a dent from last night on Identica from smeoneJan 18 19:55
cubezzzsebsebseb, yeah old news :)Jan 18 19:55
sebsebsebThe one for http://www.minecraft.net/ is quite goodJan 18 19:56
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cubezzzone possible issue with wikipedia is it contains a lot of stuff that isn't very importantJan 18 19:57
MinceRi think the issue is that it contains a lot of stuff that the deletionists believe isn't important enoughJan 18 19:58
MinceRand so they delete itJan 18 19:58
ThistleWebnot everything......bryan lunduke is desperate to have his own wiki page on wikipedia, but he's not important enoughJan 18 19:58
MinceRbecause "oh noes, there's not enough pages in this book to print all this stuff!"Jan 18 19:58
ThistleWebhe's been trying repeatedly to get folks to create one for him, because he can't himself.....every time they try, it gets deletedJan 18 19:58
cubezzzwell I guess an individual web entry wouldn't take up very much spaceJan 18 19:59
MinceRanother issue is that various political groups are waging their wars against each other on itJan 18 19:59
schestowitzlunduke smears FOSS peopleJan 18 19:59
schestowitznot enough for wikipedia entry?Jan 18 19:59
schestowitzAnd also comparing Fab to Nazi or something IIRCJan 18 19:59
ThistleWebthat's his way of being accepted, anyone who's anyone has a wiki page on wikipediaJan 18 20:00
ThistleWebI reckon that's partly why he choses flamebait ways to discuss stuff sometimesJan 18 20:01
ThistleWebas well as the hitsJan 18 20:01
ThistleWebhe wants his name alongside the FOSS celebs like linus, RMS, perens etcJan 18 20:03
ThistleWeball the usual names you see, read about etc when FOSS / open source / free software is documentedJan 18 20:04
ThistleWeband among them is bryanJan 18 20:04
schestowitz http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2012/01/18/gmds-for-surface-pairs-comparison/Jan 18 20:10
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schestowitzFunny photo http://blogs.ec.europa.eu/neelie-kroes/2012-active-ageing/Jan 18 21:04
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schestowitzSony’s 2012 launch schedule leaks: 12 Android smartphones coming this year! http://androinica.com/2012/01/sonys-2012-launch-schedule-leaks-12-android-smartphones-coming-this-yearJan 18 21:07
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schestowitzCanonical backtracks on deleting Oracle's Sun Java http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Canonical-backtracks-on-deleting-Oracle-s-Sun-Java-1415541.htmlJan 18 21:11
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fewtDoes anyone know if Microsoft is for or against SOPA?Jan 18 21:13
schestowitz10 Open Source Shopping Carts to Run Your Ecommerce Business http://news.idg.no/cw/art.cfm?id=77FF375F-AB90-3F7F-5358C7BB895B0627Jan 18 21:13
MinceRfor it, afaikJan 18 21:13
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fewt(genuine confirmation from them I mean)Jan 18 21:13
MinceRhttp://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h3261/moneyJan 18 21:13
MinceRthis says they're opposing itJan 18 21:14
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MinceRat the same time they're supporting PIPA: http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-s968/moneyJan 18 21:14
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MinceRb$a's position is the same in both casesJan 18 21:15
schestowitzMS does the PR thingJan 18 21:15
schestowitzBSA is the proxyJan 18 21:15
schestowitzsame for companies like Sony and MPAA/RIAAJan 18 21:15
schestowitzfewt: I like youJan 18 21:15
fewt? what I do ? :)Jan 18 21:16
schestowitzfewt: (but I sent Silverster Stallone to beat you up tonight for money)Jan 18 21:16
schestowitzBut I'm a good landlordJan 18 21:16
schestowitzdon't worryJan 18 21:16
fewtlol Jan 18 21:16
schestowitzit's just that mafia thug, Stallone (true story), who's out of controlJan 18 21:16
MinceRlolJan 18 21:16
fewtI like it here. hehJan 18 21:19
schestowitzwikipedia omits this about StalloneJan 18 21:21
schestowitzProbably PR/launderingJan 18 21:21
schestowitzlike Werner Von BraunJan 18 21:21
fewtI edited his page, sorry.Jan 18 21:21
fewtI was bored.Jan 18 21:21
fewtStallone $hill checking in.Jan 18 21:22
schestowitzhttp://feeds.nytimes.com/click.phdo?i=e7dd827e8ef8d9fd2e689100847cd33dJan 18 21:25
schestowitzSupport for Internet Bill Wanes as Protests Spread Jan 18 21:25
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schestowitzAnother Unigine-Based Linux Game Soon To Alpha http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA0NDkJan 18 21:28
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schestowitzRed Hat weighs in on Internet regulations  http://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/blog/2012/01/red-hat-weighs-in-on-internet-regulation.htmlJan 18 21:34
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schestowitz#Epiphany marches on http://blogs.gnome.org/xan/2012/01/17/epiphany-marches-on/ #wwwJan 18 21:36
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schestowitzGentoo Linux 12.0 reviewed: Linux For The Toughies http://ubuntumanual.org/posts/555/gentoo-linux-12-0-reviewed-linux-for-the-toughiesJan 18 21:37
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schestowitzLiVES: A Rich Video Editor With Layer Upon Layer of Features http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/LiVES-A-Rich-Video-Editor-With-Layer-Upon-Layer-of-Features-74201.htmlJan 18 21:38
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schestowitzWhat's this BS from the fusmesister Shimel?Jan 18 21:42
schestowitzhttp://www.networkworld.com/community/node/79588 http://www.alertlogic.com/about-us/management/ Jan 18 21:42
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schestowitznothing to do with FOSSJan 18 21:42
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schestowitzHP readies Linux IP set-top computer for India http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/HP-Vayu-Internet-Device-VInD/?kc=rssJan 18 22:07
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schestowitzThe First Internet Strike in History a Success ~pj http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20120118113455360Jan 18 22:15
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schestowitzOracle offers to drop patent charges against Google, to speed trial http://www.techworld.com.au/article/412689/oracle_offers_drop_patent_charges_against_google_speed_trial/?fp=16&fpid=1 giving up on #swpatsJan 18 22:17
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scientes_WOOT!!!!!Jan 18 22:17
scientes_good news schestowitz Jan 18 22:17
schestowitzIndeedJan 18 22:18
schestowitzMaybe now that Jobs is dead Ellison need not impress that other sociopathJan 18 22:18
schestowitzhe can go back to doing business and not lawsuitsJan 18 22:18
DaemonFChttp://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2012/01/sopa-blackout-sopa-and-pipa-lose-three-co-sponsors-in-congress.htmlJan 18 22:19
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schestowitzIn a few hours I'll push up another big bunch of linksJan 18 22:20
schestowitzDaemonFC: yeah :-)Jan 18 22:20
MinceR:)Jan 18 22:20
DaemonFC"Some technology business interests are resorting to stunts that punish  their users or turn them into their corporate pawns, rather than coming  to the table to find solutions to a problem," says Chris Dodd,  CEO of the Motion Picture Association of America, which supports the  bills. "A so-called blackout is yet another gimmick, albeit a dangerous  one, designed to punish elected and administration officials who are  working diligently."Jan 18 22:22
DaemonFCSays the former Senator turned MAFIAA shill, Chris DoddJan 18 22:22
DaemonFChttp://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/technology/story/2012-01-18/SOPA-PIPA-protest-reaction/52641560/1Jan 18 22:23
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schestowitzhttp://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/application-development/2012/01/18/perens-linux-could-learn-from-apple-40094848/Jan 18 22:23
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schestowitz...how to behaveJan 18 22:23
schestowitzLinux could learn from Apple...how to behaveJan 18 22:23
schestowitzpr not to behaveJan 18 22:23
MinceRthe kernel?Jan 18 22:24
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cubezzzApple could learn from BSD :)Jan 18 22:24
MinceRapple could learn from jobs and die alreadyJan 18 22:24
schestowitzSamsung backpedals on bada/Tizen OS merger plans http://www.fiercemobilecontent.com/story/samsung-backpedals-badatizen-os-merger-plans/2012-01-18Jan 18 22:28
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLx2Xc1EXLg&feature=player_embedded http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/06/goldman-sycophants-of-the-world-unite-you-have-nothing-to-lose-but-your-virtually-non-existant-reputations.htmlJan 18 22:29
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schestowitzThe Invisible Hand Behind Bonuses on Wall Street http://finance.yahoo.com/news/The-Invisible-Hand-Behind-nytimes-1539022978.html?x=0 http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/blog/2012/jan/16/goldman-sachs-pay-top-london-staff?newsfeed=trueJan 18 22:30
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DaemonFCmy dad caught on to me referring to Fox News as "Fox Noise"Jan 18 22:34
DaemonFClolJan 18 22:34
DaemonFCI actually heard Keith Olbermann calling them that and got a kick out of itJan 18 22:35
DaemonFCOlbermann is one of those news anchors who is just a little too honest to stay employed anywhere for longJan 18 22:36
DaemonFChe pissed off MSNBC and they gave him the boot a while backJan 18 22:36
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DaemonFCfrom an email to my dad about thatJan 18 22:41
DaemonFC"I don't watch any other cable news channel. CNN/MSNBC/Fixed News  (another Olbermann jab) don't report the news, they just want talking  heads that passively repeat what the rich business criminals like Rupert  Murdoch tell them to."Jan 18 22:41
DaemonFC-meJan 18 22:41
DaemonFCI was promoting Current TV which is at least somewhat honest (it's probably the best you're going to get on US TV that passes as a news channel)Jan 18 22:42
schestowitzSutor links to http://www.zdnet.com/blog/mobile-news/the-android-sloppy-interface-when-guidelines-are-not-enough/6474 http://developer.android.com/design/index.htmlJan 18 22:46
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schestowitzFUD headline from #IDG implies FOSS cannot be used commercially http://www.infoworld.com/t/java-programming/still-dont-think-open-source-hurts-commercial-software-guess-again-184168Jan 18 22:49
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MinceRfunny, somehow all my employers managed this allegedly impossible featJan 18 22:51
cubezzzhow about the London Stock Exchange? :)Jan 18 22:53
MinceRyeah, they do tooJan 18 22:58
MinceRwhat a world of miraclesJan 18 22:58
scientes_https://blip.tv/linuxconfau/beyond-init-systemd-4715015Jan 18 22:59
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scientes_"this allegedly impossible feat" what feat?Jan 18 22:59
DaemonFCFrom a draft blog post of mineJan 18 22:59
MinceRusing free software commerciallyJan 18 22:59
scientes_schestowitz, what FUD shit headline Jan 18 22:59
DaemonFCIn my personal opinion, it would blow up in the face of the proprietary  software companies that are promoting it, and possibly lead to a mass  exodus to free and open source software (at least until the rich  business criminals at Microsoft and Apple figured out a way to shut them  down with unfair legal tactics). As tempting as it would be to  otherwise just not care about SOPA/PIPA because it would likely cause  these companies to  choke on thJan 18 22:59
MinceRthe author of the article misunderstands free software in the same way wozo didJan 18 23:00
cubezzzWozo as in Steve Woz?Jan 18 23:03
DaemonFChttp://www.gay.net/sites/gay.net/files/imce/vader.jpgJan 18 23:05
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DaemonFClolJan 18 23:05
MinceRcubezzz: yesJan 18 23:07
MinceRDaemonFC: lolJan 18 23:07
cubezzzhe seemed to like AndroidJan 18 23:07
MinceRhttp://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/blogs/bentley/apples-wozniak-bad-mouths-open-source/?cs=14536Jan 18 23:09
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MinceRgnJan 18 23:12
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scientes_this video is coolJan 18 23:21
DaemonFChttps://daemonfc.wordpress.com/2012/01/18/on-sopa/Jan 18 23:23
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scientes_oh geeze, he haz a blogJan 18 23:29
DaemonFC:)Jan 18 23:30
DaemonFCI have a blog nowJan 18 23:32
DaemonFCblogs are coolJan 18 23:32
DaemonFCB-)Jan 18 23:32
schestowitzyou've had severalJan 18 23:32
sebsebsebDaemonFC: yep about to read your blog post about that :)Jan 18 23:32
schestowitzyou shut one downJan 18 23:32
DaemonFCyeahJan 18 23:32
*sebsebseb Saw what the 10 o clock BBC News had to say about it earlier as wellJan 18 23:32
schestowitzMinceR: but praises AndroidJan 18 23:32
brendynwhy does sopa threaten bookface?Jan 18 23:33
DaemonFCthe ZOMGPIRATES are ZOMGPROTESTING!!!! they want to ZOMGSTEALSTEALSTEAL!!!Jan 18 23:33
DaemonFC-BBCJan 18 23:33
sebsebsebDaemonFC: well wasn't quite like thatJan 18 23:33
sebsebsebthey let Wikipedia explain them selvesJan 18 23:33
DaemonFCThe BBC is a bunch of fucking crooks, just like any of the major American news networksJan 18 23:33
sebsebsebor whateverJan 18 23:33
DaemonFCThe American news networks are letting Chris Dodd of the MPAA whine, bitch and moan because the SOPA protesters apparently lit the fuse on his tamponJan 18 23:35
DaemonFC"ZOMG, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE ZOMG ECONOMY WHEN ZOMG PEOPLE CAN GET ALBUMS FOR FREE INSTEAD OF ZOMG PAYING ZOMG $20 FOR A ZOMG $1 CD AND PACKAGING!!!!!!!!!! THINK OF THE KITTENS!!!"Jan 18 23:36
DaemonFCmusic, movies, software whateverJan 18 23:36
DaemonFCfucking MAFIAA gets whatever they wantJan 18 23:36
DaemonFCthen the one time they get dealt a setback they throw a tantrumJan 18 23:36
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DaemonFCWhich middle class jobs are destroyed when you download some music instead of paying for it?Jan 18 23:37
DaemonFCIs a branding company with a bunch of lawyers a great producer of middle class jobs?Jan 18 23:38
DaemonFCI'm sure some Mexican comes in to clean their restroomsJan 18 23:38
DaemonFCIs that what they mean?Jan 18 23:38
DaemonFCconfusingJan 18 23:38
DaemonFCEdit: I notice that Chris Dodd speaks of middle class jobs being  destroyed by "piracy". I wonder what middle class jobs a branding  company full of lawyers and former US senators actually produces. Are  they talking about the Mexican cleaning crew that goes over their  restrooms or something? (As for Microsoft, they employ very few Americans. Most of the development on Windows and IE is done in India and China.)Jan 18 23:43
DaemonFC:)Jan 18 23:43
schestowitzgame overlays: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNdDhg7OE5o&feature=digest_monJan 18 23:50
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schestowitzLinks 18/1/2012: Canonical Removes Java From Ubuntu, NASA’s Open Source Software Initiative http://is.gd/KX8y8h #techrightsJan 18 23:56
DaemonFC"Android is the new Windows" -Paul Thurrott Jan 18 23:57
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DaemonFCgee, I knew he'd try to slime it, but that's just too muchJan 18 23:57
scientes_schestowitz, you know if they are still using the NASA Open license or whatever?Jan 18 23:57
schestowitzyahJan 18 23:57
scientes_the only that FSF didn't like, and that they use for whirdwind and whatnotJan 18 23:57
scientes_cause its a bummer that whirlwind isn't better packaged, and its largely because of that licencing crapJan 18 23:58
scientes_the problem is that they ban contributions that come from other open source projectsJan 18 23:59
scientes_the thing i keep wondering however, is, isn't that software in the public domainJan 18 23:59

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