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schestowitz|The next working group meeting on internet governance to be held this month include: open sourcing, (i.e. promoting free software,) and bridging the digital divide between North and South." http://cablegatesearch.net/cable.php?id=05TUNIS1458&q=free-softwareDec 30 00:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Gandi dot net will contribute $1 per inbound transfer to !EFF until Jan 15th http://identi.ca/url/63407839Dec 30 00:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Land Destroyer: 2011 - Year of the Dupe - great article | #nwo #2011 #tptb #falseflag http://goo.gl/GONQ7Dec 30 00:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Gandi Supports the EFF - Nom de domaine et hébergement cloud - Gandi.net .::. Size~: 30.01 KBDec 30 00:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Land Destroyer: 2011 - Year of the Dupe .::. Size~: 138.26 KBDec 30 00:01
formic_isn't Gandi dead?Dec 30 00:03
schestowitzsureDec 30 00:04
schestowitz60 years ago http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohandas_Karamchand_GandhiDec 30 00:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 393.86 KBDec 30 00:05
formic_Title: Gandi Supports the EFFDec 30 00:06
schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Mohandas_Karamchand_GandhiDec 30 00:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Assassination of Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 87.85 KBDec 30 00:06
schestowitzformic_: yes, seen thatDec 30 00:06
schestowitzI suppose Dec 30 00:06
schestowitzJesus supports genomic sciencesDec 30 00:07
formic_lolDec 30 00:08
prurigroJesus supports what I agree with and hates what I don't, didn't you know?Dec 30 00:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻@forteller: Please say it'll be filmed! "Little Brother": Thriller Based on Cory Doctorow Novel http://is.gd/WuwhL6 via @GoldstarSF @joshfcDec 30 00:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: "Little Brother": Debut of a New Thriller Based on Cory Doctorow Novel | Goldstar .::. Size~: 42.2 KBDec 30 00:08
formic_Ghengis Kahn supports depopulationDec 30 00:08
schestowitz"Ah, right. They're fast if you remember them......" Learning curves can pay off https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1107098Dec 30 00:08
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schestowitzprurigro: there should be a bumber stickerDec 30 00:09
schestowitz"Jesus is my dogma"Dec 30 00:09
prurigroschestowitz, lol nice =DDec 30 00:09
schestowitzOrDec 30 00:09
schestowitz"Muhammad is my partner in crime"Dec 30 00:09
schestowitz"It's not my fault, don't look at ME... it says so in my Holy Book"Dec 30 00:10
prurigrolol, it literally says everythingDec 30 00:11
prurigrogood and bad, its a big bookDec 30 00:11
prurigroyou can justify anythingDec 30 00:11
prurigro:)Dec 30 00:11
schestowitzRead book on genocide [dinosaur meme pic] become mass murdererDec 30 00:11
schestowitzWrite own book on racism [dinosaur meme pic] get arrested before committing a crimeDec 30 00:12
schestowitzreligious books get exceptionsDec 30 00:12
schestowitzeven if they advocate killing babies, pedophelia, breaking the legs of and aping of children as trophies in warDec 30 00:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] I want to sign some #PGP/#GnuPG keys here at #28C3. anybody else interested? I'm at @telecomix table (1st floor)Dec 30 00:13
prurigrohaha they do don't they, then again, free speech I suppose?Dec 30 00:13
formic_free speech is a great thingDec 30 00:14
schestowitzwith exceptions*Dec 30 00:14
formic_who would want to censor all the entertainment in the bible?Dec 30 00:14
formic_I don't think there should be exceptions to free speechDec 30 00:14
schestowitzIf you want *more* free speech than others, tie the speech with a monotheistic religionDec 30 00:14
formic_true!Dec 30 00:15
formic_you can't say anything bad about isreal or you're an anti semiteDec 30 00:16
schestowitz!google behead all thoseDec 30 00:16
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Behead All Those Who Insult Islam by Michelle Malkin on Creators ... | http://www.creators.com/opinion/michelle-malkin/behead-all-those-who-insult-islam.htmlDec 30 00:16
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Revelation 20:4 I saw thrones on which were seated those who had ... | http://bible.cc/revelation/20-4.htmDec 30 00:16
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - THAILAND: Muslims behead a 9-year-old boy (WARNING: Graphic ... | http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/2011/05/09/thailand-muslims-behead-a-9-year-old-boy-warning-graphic-images/Dec 30 00:16
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Malkin: Behead All Those Who Insult Islam - Jihad Watch | http://www.jihadwatch.org/2007/06/malkin-behead-all-those-who-insult-islam.htmlDec 30 00:16
schestowitz!google god hats fagsDec 30 00:16
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Westboro Baptist Church Home Page | http://www.godhatesfags.com/Dec 30 00:16
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Westboro Baptist Church Picket Schedule | http://www.godhatesfags.com/schedule.htmlDec 30 00:16
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - God Hates Fags | http://www.godhatesfags.org.uk/Dec 30 00:16
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Fred Phelps - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_PhelpsDec 30 00:16
formic_InvisibleMan(TM) Hates fags?Dec 30 00:16
schestowitzshe doesDec 30 00:16
prurigroschestowitz, you seen the Louis Theroux followup on the WBC?Dec 30 00:17
schestowitzcause they won't screw herDec 30 00:17
schestowitzdid he do one with them? Ithink I saw itDec 30 00:17
prurigrohe did twoDec 30 00:17
prurigroone was just meeting themDec 30 00:17
formic_why don't christians team up with homosexualsDec 30 00:17
prurigroand one was a followup where he delivers a complete smackdownDec 30 00:17
schestowitzIt's funny how he pretends to be a dork just trying to figure them out.Dec 30 00:17
prurigrohaha yea, I like his styleDec 30 00:17
formic_whos having less abortions than homosexualsDec 30 00:17
schestowitzbut they're happy, they get a lot of publicity by being inflammatoryDec 30 00:17
prurigrothe second one though, he's not a dork at allDec 30 00:17
prurigrohe gets pissed and calls them out on all this stuffDec 30 00:18
schestowitzI think I saw it too, long ago..Dec 30 00:18
schestowitzHe did them goodDec 30 00:18
schestowitzhe gave them publicityDec 30 00:18
schestowitzthey should just be ignoredDec 30 00:18
formic_anyone ever listen to Phone Losers?Dec 30 00:19
schestowitzNew FOSS troll http://www.internetnews.com/blog/skerner/does-richard-stallman-still-matter.htmlDec 30 00:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Controversies of 2011: Does Richard Stallman Still Matter? - InternetNews. .::. Size~: 33.26 KBDec 30 00:19
schestowitzformic_: is that another name for Microsoft Corp.?Dec 30 00:19
formic_Phone Losers?Dec 30 00:20
schestowitzThey areDec 30 00:20
schestowitz!google wp7 market share faiklDec 30 00:20
formic_no these guys have a podcast and do prank callsDec 30 00:20
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Microsoft Continues To Bleed Mobile Market Share, Despite WP7 ... | http://hothardware.com/News/Microsoft-Continues-To-Bleed-Mobile-Market-Share-Despite-WP7/Dec 30 00:20
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Can Windows Phone 7 Overtake iOS? (AAPL, GOOG, MSFT) | http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2011/09/04/can-windows-phone-7-overtake-ios.aspxDec 30 00:20
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Windows phone 7 app | Kayako Community Forums | http://forums.kayako.com/threads/windows-phone-7-app.25382/Dec 30 00:20
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Is the Microsoft Windows Phone 7 dead in the water? | The Manila ... | http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/330629/is-microsoft-windows-phone-7-dead-waterDec 30 00:20
prurigroI like having extremists around pulling things in directions they should go, even if their extremes maybe shouldn't ever be completely realizedDec 30 00:20
schestowitzAmerica loves its bad guysDec 30 00:20
schestowitzHitchens made a career out of itDec 30 00:21
prurigrohow do you prevent 70% of the population getting together and changing the broken constitution?Dec 30 00:21
schestowitzThe UK became too small for his aggravationDec 30 00:21
prurigroyou pit half the population against the otherDec 30 00:21
schestowitzHe found bigger market share (and citizenship) in the USDec 30 00:21
prurigropoint out an enemy and have everyone for or against themDec 30 00:21
prurigroand word, Hitchens was awesomeDec 30 00:22
formic_the phone losers pranked the callers of a church prayer lineDec 30 00:22
schestowitzpartisanismDec 30 00:22
prurigrohe'll be missedDec 30 00:22
schestowitzyeahDec 30 00:22
schestowitzhe made good linesDec 30 00:22
schestowitzif good asked me to kill my first born, I'd say f**k y**Dec 30 00:22
prurigrohe also agreed to be water boarded after that guy on FOX said he would and never didDec 30 00:22
schestowitzI saw thatDec 30 00:23
formic_http://www.phonelosers.org/prayer/Dec 30 00:23
schestowitzit's like a water park sport. it's called like that.Dec 30 00:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Phone Losers of America -   Prayer Line Calls .::. Size~: 56.08 KBDec 30 00:23
prurigrohaha, yea, what a friendly name ehDec 30 00:23
schestowitztoday I watched the second Meet the Partents/?Fockers filmDec 30 00:23
schestowitzAnd they had some ads all overDec 30 00:23
schestowitzAA, car rentals, Macs...Dec 30 00:24
schestowitz<They also did Tazer commercials I thinkDec 30 00:24
schestowitzI wasn't sure if it was a placement ad or just part of the film, but it smelled promotionalDec 30 00:24
schestowitzAnd they made it look like a jokeDec 30 00:24
schestowitzWhen he attacks people and electrocutes them excessivelyDec 30 00:25
schestowitzThen he talks about how it's all harmless, that was disgustingDec 30 00:25
schestowitzOh, a Canadian troll is backDec 30 00:26
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1109545 "FLOSS for communistic climate change agendas?"Dec 30 00:26
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schestowitz"Hail Cthulu!!!" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1109545Dec 30 00:26
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prurigroschestowitz, these days, no branded item in a movie is by accident if it comes from hollywoodDec 30 00:27
schestowitzI knowDec 30 00:30
cubezzzI don't think the movies did as well in 2011Dec 30 00:30
schestowitzIn fact, they have stuff dedicated to watching the films and remove all other trademarksDec 30 00:30
cubezzzI know I don't bother going to the moviesDec 30 00:30
schestowitzI read that they do this to ensure that if they advertise a company they do not have any mention/showing of its competitionDec 30 00:30
cubezzzsometimes I check out old films on DVDDec 30 00:30
schestowitzit's just another products to latch on to a film for profit now: ads disguised as content. MS bought a company, Massive, to do that with games, but this company went down the loo after MS had bought itDec 30 00:31
cubezzzthe Microsoft 'Touch of Death' ;-)Dec 30 00:31
schestowitzprurigro: right, no pointDec 30 00:31
schestowitzjust got some food and popcorn, watched it here with the gfDec 30 00:31
schestowitzcubezzz: Dec 30 00:32
schestowitz!google Microsoft 'Touch of Death'Dec 30 00:32
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Microsoft's Touch of Death | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/02/10/microsoft-ruining-companies/Dec 30 00:32
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Apple reframes "Touch of Death" as "Gorilla Grip of Death" | ZDNet | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/apple-reframes-touch-of-death-as-gorilla-grip-of-death/9004Dec 30 00:32
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Demystifying the 'Blue Screen of Death' - Microsoft TechNet | http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc750081.aspxDec 30 00:32
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - iMessage, Skype, Google Voice, and the death of the phone number ... | http://www.theverge.com/2011/06/09/google-voice-skype-imessage-and-the-death-of-the-phone-number/Dec 30 00:32
schestowitzwe're #1Dec 30 00:32
schestowitzWe get a lot of visitors through GoogleDec 30 00:33
schestowitzTomorrow I'll post another 10 or so cablegate cablesDec 30 00:33
schestowitzthen a biking trip to go to, more posts at night... there's hardly any news these days, so I planned to do some cablegate since sept. 2011Dec 30 00:34
cubezzzmakes me think of DEC and Digital ResearchDec 30 00:34
cubezzzgood companies that diedDec 30 00:34
schestowitzThey're your eraDec 30 00:34
schestowitzin 2030 you might try UbuntuDec 30 00:34
schestowitz7.04Dec 30 00:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] So, the TSA got almost $8bln BUDGET INCREASE for 2012. How'Dec 30 00:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] So, the #TSA got almost $8bln BUDGET INCREASE for 2012. How's that crisis treating ya, #USA? :) ur1.ca/72tg8 #failDec 30 00:34
cubezzzDell DEC predates me quite a bit :)Dec 30 00:34
cubezzzer... DECDec 30 00:34
cubezzzhow did Dell get in there??Dec 30 00:35
cubezzz:-PDec 30 00:35
schestowitzDell is still shuffling chair at the SDECDec 30 00:35
schestowitz*DECKDec 30 00:35
cubezzzschestowitz, DEC was very strong in the 60's, I was a baby then Dec 30 00:35
cubezzzI'm just now learning about that eraDec 30 00:35
schestowitzBig sideburns, big computersDec 30 00:36
cubezzzPDP's were 'small'Dec 30 00:36
cubezzzmostlyDec 30 00:36
cubezzzwell, small for the timeDec 30 00:36
schestowitz!gogle pdpDec 30 00:37
cubezzzmsb__ can probably remember the DEC era better than meDec 30 00:37
schestowitz!google pdpDec 30 00:37
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Welcome to Pacific Drums & Percussion - drums, pedals, hardware ... | http://www.pacificdrums.com/Dec 30 00:37
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Performance Designed Products Accessories and Controllers for Wii ... | http://www.pdp.com/Dec 30 00:37
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - PDP - What does PDP stand for? Acronyms and abbreviations by ... | http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/PDPDec 30 00:37
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Programmed Data Processor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programmed_Data_ProcessorDec 30 00:37
cubezzz60's stuff is pretty rare outside of MuseumsDec 30 00:37
cubezzzI don't know anyone with 60's era computers at homeDec 30 00:38
msb__I worked with a DEC LINC -- Laboratory INstrumentation Computer -- predecessor to the PDP-8!Dec 30 00:39
msb__http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LINCDec 30 00:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LINC - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 53.09 KBDec 30 00:39
cubezzzyou should hang out in #classiccmp msb__ Dec 30 00:40
msb__Thanks!Dec 30 00:40
cubezzzthere's some folks still running PDP's Dec 30 00:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @telecomix: RT @opsopa #SOPA Have a fax machine? Fax this to all companies that support #SOPA http://t.co/j9kzE561Dec 30 00:41
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msb__I made stereo displays on the monitor, which was a 5 inch oscilloscope.Dec 30 00:42
msb__One graph for the left eye, one for the right.Dec 30 00:43
cubezzzI wouldn't mind gettting a PDP-11/45Dec 30 00:44
cubezzzI could run Unix on thatDec 30 00:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Nice! @Namecheap will double donations to EFF if they hit 25,000 domain transfers today. https://eff.org/r.N9a #SOPA #MoveYourDomainDec 30 00:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: #MoveYourDomain to Protest the Internet Blacklist Bills | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 31.62 KBDec 30 00:44
cubezzzthe PDP-8's looked cool Dec 30 00:44
cubezzzah well I got simh, so I can emulate PDP-11Dec 30 00:46
msb__I remember when we got the second 1024 words of memory.  And when we got interrupts.Dec 30 00:47
cubezzzschestowitz, I'm actually running Ultrix, Xenix, Unix V7, and Altair z80 now :)Dec 30 00:47
cubezzzmsb__, you can probably remember the entire transistor era of computersDec 30 00:47
msb__Yes, the LINC was made with discrete transistors, not ICs.Dec 30 00:48
cubezzzIBM 608, first transistor calculator :)Dec 30 00:48
msb__On lots of little plugin boards.Dec 30 00:48
cubezzzforget which computer was firstDec 30 00:48
MinceRgnDec 30 00:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Arrested for quoting the Bill of Rights: http://ur1.ca/72tuq #USADec 30 00:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Daily Kos: TSA Arrests Me for Using the Fourth Amendment as a Weapon (Tales from the Edge of a Revolution #2) .::. Size~: 370.53 KBDec 30 00:49
cubezzzmsb__, CDC 160A was pretty neat tooDec 30 00:50
cubezzz12-bit mini from 1962Dec 30 00:50
msb__The LINC had a very nice instruction set, designed to be programmed by scientists who had no computer education.Dec 30 00:52
msb__Now the Microsoft agents in COLA attack us for using the command line.Dec 30 00:53
msb__Which millions of secretaries did every day in the PC-DOS era.Dec 30 00:53
cubezzzthey want computer users to be stupid it seemsDec 30 00:54
msb__Yes.Dec 30 00:54
cubezzzmore dependant on themDec 30 00:54
formic_not using CLI doesn't make someone stupidDec 30 00:54
cubezzzyou're better off knowing it than not knowing itDec 30 00:55
formic_it's useful but these days I barely need itDec 30 00:56
msb__In many cases GUI only allows you to select actions that someone else has programmed.Dec 30 00:56
formic_desktop linux is getting better at not needing CLIDec 30 00:56
msb__With CLI, and especially with bash, you can program your own actions, and sequences of them.Dec 30 00:56
msb__That's far more versatile.Dec 30 00:57
msb__If all you want to do is read mail, browse the Web, and write letters, you only need GUI.Dec 30 00:58
formic_what else is there?Dec 30 00:58
formic_ie, for non programmersDec 30 00:58
msb__But if you are thinking about things, researching, gathering information and putting it on your disk...Dec 30 00:58
formic_all I do is read mail, browse the web, write stuff, etcDec 30 00:58
formic_those tasks I can handle with GUIDec 30 00:59
formic_including researching, gathering infoDec 30 00:59
msb__For one thing you'll want to organize the information in a directory hierarchy that matches the conceptual structure of the data.Dec 30 00:59
formic_yesDec 30 01:00
msb__You'll want to search it in complex ways.Dec 30 01:00
formic_GUI can do thisDec 30 01:00
formic_nepomukDec 30 01:00
formic_even google's tracking desktop software does thatDec 30 01:00
msb__I doubt it.Dec 30 01:00
formic_even indexes pdfsDec 30 01:00
formic_i have thousands of pdf files i research through using nepomuk from kdeDec 30 01:01
msb__I give my information files meaningful names and create a directory hierarchy for them that matches their conceptual hierarchy.Dec 30 01:02
msb__I don't need nepomuk to do my thinking for me.Dec 30 01:03
formic_i don't mind my computer doing that for meDec 30 01:03
formic_computers are supposed to make my life easier for meDec 30 01:04
formic_less time tinkering and more time researchingDec 30 01:04
msb__What is it that you research?Dec 30 01:04
formic_trying to find out who runs the worldDec 30 01:06
cubezzzeh, I can conceive of not using the shellDec 30 01:06
formic_having to sort through a lot of bs all the timeDec 30 01:06
cubezzzI use ssh all the timeDec 30 01:06
cubezzzthat's text basedDec 30 01:06
cubezzzI control a bunch of computers with itDec 30 01:06
cubezzzanyways, I run text only OS sometimes tooDec 30 01:07
cubezzzsome servers don't have graphics cardsDec 30 01:07
msb__formic_: Very interesting subject.  Dec 30 01:07
formic_cubezzz i do too but i do so for less resource usage and find the extra cli work is worth itDec 30 01:07
cubezzzwhich OS are you using formic_ ?Dec 30 01:07
cubezzzrm *.gif Dec 30 01:08
cubezzzseems a lot easier to do some things with the shellDec 30 01:08
formic_a mix of everything, debian, centos, sabayonDec 30 01:08
msb__formic_: Do you think there's a strict hierarchy with some small group at the top?Dec 30 01:08
formic_msb__ I believe the power structure operates in a pyramidal hierarchyDec 30 01:09
formic_more groups and organizations at the bottom with little knowledgeDec 30 01:10
msb__formic_: I think it's a diffuse group with some having more power than others, and that there are sometimes conflicts among them.Dec 30 01:10
formic_less at the top with full knowledgeDec 30 01:10
msb__I agree.Dec 30 01:10
cubezzztext based systems are more succinctDec 30 01:11
formic_cubezzz - you know what would be easier than rm *.gifDec 30 01:11
msb__But I don't think there's one small group at the top that controls everything.  Certainly not any group we've heard of.Dec 30 01:11
cubezzzopenbsd doesn't even bother with X at the initial installDec 30 01:11
formic_cubezzz - telling your computer to do itDec 30 01:11
cubezzzformic_, the keyboard is more powerful than the mouseDec 30 01:11
formic_msb__ i use my intuition and believe there is one small group at the top but i can't name themDec 30 01:12
msb__formic_: What makes you think that?Dec 30 01:12
formic_cubezzz - and the spoken word is more powerful than the keyboardDec 30 01:12
cubezzzformic_, that's great except you don't have speech recognition on your OSDec 30 01:13
cubezzzI bet I'd be faster with the keyboard than speech tooDec 30 01:13
formic_cubezzz - its getting better and it will eventually be thereDec 30 01:13
formic_cubezzz - controlling computers with your mind is even betterDec 30 01:13
formic_msb__ I figure there is a rich asshole somewhere who has the money to make it happenDec 30 01:14
cubezzzbesides, if everyone used speech their spelling ability would decreaseDec 30 01:14
cubezzzthat's already happening with those tablet thingsDec 30 01:14
msb__I think the ultra-wealthy sociopaths at the top all have similar motives and interests, which is why they might appear to be controlled by a common source.Dec 30 01:14
formic_cubezzz - spellcheck is doing that alreadyDec 30 01:14
formic_cubezzz - if it weren't for spellcheck I would be retardedDec 30 01:14
cubezzzformic_, or you could just learn to spell Dec 30 01:15
formic_whyDec 30 01:15
formic_my computer can fix itDec 30 01:15
formic_lolDec 30 01:15
cubezzzno commentDec 30 01:15
cubezzzyou know why Dec 30 01:15
formic_in 10 years, who is going to be writing stuff down on paper?Dec 30 01:15
formic_old peopleDec 30 01:15
formic_you'll be surprised at how many people are publishing books who might otherwise be deemed illiterateDec 30 01:16
cubezzzthat's hardly a good thing formic_ Dec 30 01:17
formic_plus, how do you have spelling problems when you're speaking naturally ?Dec 30 01:17
formic_you don't spell out words as you say themDec 30 01:17
cubezzzbut I'm not speaking, I'm typingDec 30 01:17
formic_computers are going to get so advanced that many of our basic skills are going to get bad - its trueDec 30 01:18
cubezzzformic_, I've heard talk like that since the 70'sDec 30 01:18
formic_we'll have things in our eyes that translate foreign languages and present augmented reality subtitlesDec 30 01:18
cubezzzI like ebooks, no problem thereDec 30 01:19
cubezzzbut computers are merely augments of ourselves, nothing moreDec 30 01:19
cubezzzthey can't program themselves, or repair themselvesDec 30 01:19
formic_cubezzz - Michiu Kaku - The future in 2030Dec 30 01:20
formic_its a video on youtubeDec 30 01:20
cubezzzfictionDec 30 01:20
formic_this stuff already existsDec 30 01:20
cubezzzI think notDec 30 01:20
formic_yes it doesDec 30 01:20
formic_internet contacts? they doDec 30 01:20
cubezzzformic_, you never heard of the AI winter?Dec 30 01:20
formic_so does mind control of computersDec 30 01:20
cubezzzlook it up :)Dec 30 01:20
formic_not talking AIDec 30 01:20
formic_augmented realityDec 30 01:21
cubezzzmy points stand, the computer can't program itselfDec 30 01:21
formic_AI research will accelerate with super cheap quantum chipsDec 30 01:21
cubezzzbesides, it's not good to get too lazyDec 30 01:21
formic_how old are you?Dec 30 01:22
cubezzz46Dec 30 01:22
formic_if you dont mindDec 30 01:22
formic_yeah im 28Dec 30 01:22
cubezzzwould you really want a computer directly connected to your brain?Dec 30 01:22
cubezzzI sure wouldn'tDec 30 01:23
formic_LOLDec 30 01:23
formic_not even if you knew the whole setup was 100% FLOSS?Dec 30 01:23
cubezzzirrelevantDec 30 01:23
formic_I would only be worried about the government monitoringDec 30 01:23
cubezzzcomputers mess upDec 30 01:23
formic_oh you!Dec 30 01:23
msb__The wikipedia article on _The Time Machine_: The Eloi have no curiosity or discipline.  The result of an environment in which strength and intellect are no longer advantageous to survival.Dec 30 01:24
formic_you seem to think a machine that reads neurons would damage your brain if it crashedDec 30 01:24
cubezzzI wouldn't want to test that theoryDec 30 01:24
msb__I think GUI is the first step to people becoming Eloi.Dec 30 01:25
formic_can you write to a file that is read onlyDec 30 01:25
cubezzznahDec 30 01:25
formic_oh gawdDec 30 01:25
formic_you guys are old foggies, lolDec 30 01:25
cubezzzmsb__, it's not as bad as that :)Dec 30 01:25
msb__Although GUI is often useful.Dec 30 01:25
cubezzzI use GUI formic_ Dec 30 01:25
cubezzzbut I use it in tandem with a shellDec 30 01:25
formic_you might as well be saying farming equipment is a step towards us being the EloiDec 30 01:25
msb__If people can't write without assistance, they soon won't be able to read.Dec 30 01:26
formic_when im 48+ ill be arguing with kids over the next new thing tooDec 30 01:26
cubezzzformic_, when the BIOS takes over the computer it does 100's of steps before the graphics card is activatedDec 30 01:26
cubezzzcan't use the GUI for everything Dec 30 01:26
formic_do you really want to do those 100's of steps yourself?Dec 30 01:27
cubezzzyes, because I'm writing my own BIOSDec 30 01:27
formic_reinventing the wheel?Dec 30 01:27
cubezzzwith help of courseDec 30 01:27
cubezzzno, because I want to know exactly what it doesDec 30 01:27
formic_why not go back to punch cardsDec 30 01:27
cubezzzformic_, you're not making senseDec 30 01:27
formic_or binaryDec 30 01:28
cubezzzam I talking about punched cards? no, I'm talking about the BIOSDec 30 01:28
formic_you want to find out how a computer really works right?Dec 30 01:28
cubezzzthe software part Dec 30 01:28
cubezzzI don't have any interest, at the moment, to build my own computer from stratchDec 30 01:29
formic_that's my pointDec 30 01:29
formic_I have no interest in how the computer worksDec 30 01:29
formic_I just want it to do my shitDec 30 01:30
formic_you don't like star trek do you?Dec 30 01:30
msb__I don't think we need to understand how everything in the software works.  The Linux kernel alone is complex.Dec 30 01:30
cubezzzI like star trek just fine, but it's a fictional showDec 30 01:31
msb__But I think we should not give up human capabilities to computers.Dec 30 01:31
formic_yes its fictional but don't you want all that cool stuff to work in real life?Dec 30 01:31
cubezzzmsb__, it's important to learn about the BIOS for security reasonsDec 30 01:31
msb__We should be able to write without spell- and grammar-checkers.Dec 30 01:31
cubezzzformic_, Kirk has a Commodore PET in his room in Star Trek 2 :)Dec 30 01:31
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msb__That's about Kirk's speed.Dec 30 01:32
formic_writing is going to be obsoleteDec 30 01:32
formic_its not naturalDec 30 01:32
msb__formic_: That's well on the way to becoming Eloi.Dec 30 01:32
formic_Its well on the way of being more HumanDec 30 01:33
msb__Language is a very important part of being human.Dec 30 01:33
cubezzzanyways, this all has nothing to do with the original comment about shellsDec 30 01:33
cubezzzwhich are a good ideaDec 30 01:33
formic_why does language require being written down?Dec 30 01:33
formic_other than archival ?Dec 30 01:33
cubezzzfor preservation, yesDec 30 01:33
msb__Because otherwise it is undefined and ephemeral.Dec 30 01:33
cubezzzanyways, do you have backups from 20 years ago? silly question but...Dec 30 01:34
cubezzzI doDec 30 01:34
formic_once everyone has a computer, internet, etc. don't you think it will be super cheap to do all communications by voice and video instead of by text?Dec 30 01:34
cubezzzand the safest ones were my printoutsDec 30 01:34
cubezzzformic_, what are you doing right now?Dec 30 01:35
cubezzzyou're typing :)Dec 30 01:35
formic_perhaps being in IRC is the wrong place LOLDec 30 01:35
msb__Opinions don't need to be written down; they are vague and changeable.  But facts and deductions are definite.Dec 30 01:35
formic_80s technologyDec 30 01:35
cubezzzstill good Dec 30 01:35
cubezzzwe can  have both old and new ideasDec 30 01:35
cubezzzno need to reject old ideas out of handDec 30 01:36
formic_I think some ideas are easier to explain via a video or speechDec 30 01:36
formic_perhaps text won't be obsolete but it won't be a primary way to communicateDec 30 01:36
cubezzzwe will still readDec 30 01:36
formic_i stopped reading books, no timeDec 30 01:37
formic_audiobooks!Dec 30 01:37
formic_better than moviesDec 30 01:37
msb__Videos and audiobooks have to be accessed linearly.Dec 30 01:37
cubezzzI don't want a program listing read back to me :)Dec 30 01:37
msb__Very slow and inefficient.Dec 30 01:37
formic_program listing?Dec 30 01:37
cubezzzor a math equationDec 30 01:37
formic_well you're not average joeDec 30 01:38
cubezzzlisten, I have an audio blog too :)Dec 30 01:38
cubezzzI'm a universalistDec 30 01:38
msb__Text can have a table of contents and indices, allowing rapid access.Dec 30 01:38
formic_you realize all this technology will require smart people to make all the complex programming workDec 30 01:38
cubezzzformic_, I'm not worried about losing my jobDec 30 01:39
formic_smart people wont go awayDec 30 01:39
formic_in fact they will be needed more than everDec 30 01:39
cubezzzcomputers screw up, it's not arguable :)Dec 30 01:39
cubezzzindeedDec 30 01:39
msb__Yeah, a few smart people who can read will control the billions who can't.Dec 30 01:39
cubezzzformic_, in fact I also use 3d models in reality, not computer basedDec 30 01:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Peaceful protesters (99%) are pepper sprayed, bloodied & abused, rioters (1%) get special treatment http://www.ur1.ca/72v5c !CDNpoli !CanadaDec 30 01:39
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formic_its just joe average won't need to learn how to use a computerDec 30 01:39
formic_here is the best partDec 30 01:40
cubezzzcomputer is just virtual 3d, not true 3dDec 30 01:40
formic_Microsoft will be completely dead 10-20 yearsDec 30 01:40
cubezzza projection of reality, not reality itselfDec 30 01:40
formic_they wont be able to keep upDec 30 01:40
cubezzzformic_, we hope, there are many possiblitiesDec 30 01:40
formic_microsoft will be gone when the desktop is for the average personDec 30 01:41
formic_even now, people are getting tablets and not using a pc anymoreDec 30 01:41
cubezzzexcept you wouldn't want to program _on_ oneDec 30 01:41
formic_android tablets will make sure its not proprietaryDec 30 01:41
formic_cubezzz - average people dont programDec 30 01:41
cubezzzand someone somewhere has to do that, neverthelessDec 30 01:41
cubezzzthings don't happen by magicDec 30 01:42
formic_correct, thats why I said for the average personDec 30 01:42
cubezzzthe average person doesn't really existDec 30 01:42
formic_sure they doDec 30 01:42
cubezzzeveryone is an individualDec 30 01:42
formic_usersDec 30 01:42
cubezzzformic_, that is merely a broad generalizationDec 30 01:42
formic_people using a computer from a non technical standpointDec 30 01:43
msb__For effective computer use you need a large screen and a keyboard.Dec 30 01:43
formic_not when your mind is your keyboardDec 30 01:43
cubezzzformic_, another point, those tablet things are like bic lightersDec 30 01:43
tessierformic_: I'm pretty sure some vestige of Microsoft will be around in 20 years.Dec 30 01:43
cubezzznon repairableDec 30 01:43
tessierJust their brand will be worth something even if it is Microsoft toothpicks.Dec 30 01:43
msb__Without a keyboard, you are only selecting icon options that someone else has chosen for you.Dec 30 01:44
tessierBet I bet they'll even be in the computer business. They may just have to go towards services like IBM did.Dec 30 01:44
cubezzzmsb__, yeah we get it, I agree with you :)Dec 30 01:44
formic_ms has no services that are decentDec 30 01:44
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cubezzzformic_, well, at least we agree about Microsoft :)Dec 30 01:44
formic_:)Dec 30 01:44
formic_we might not agree on the future, but ms is an evil that will be destroyedDec 30 01:45
formic_seriously tho, Michiu Kaku - the future in 2030Dec 30 01:45
formic_the stuff he talks about is realDec 30 01:45
msb__The only thing interesting about a tablet is how to get it to do what a real computer -- desktop/laptop -- can do.Dec 30 01:45
cubezzzkeyboard is just collection of symbols that are always accessibleDec 30 01:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @mlinksva: Congrats/thx @namecheap for savvy anti #SOPA marketing ur1.ca/72uwn rest take lessonDec 30 01:46
cubezzztablets are too fiddlyDec 30 01:46
cubezzzfor real work you need a real computer :)Dec 30 01:47
msb__Our language is hierarchical -- letters, words, phrases, clauses, sentences, paragraphs, pages, chapters.Dec 30 01:47
formic_do you guys maintain your own cars too?Dec 30 01:47
cubezzzno, don't own a carDec 30 01:47
cubezzzI use cabs and public transDec 30 01:47
msb__Those levels of hierarchy are what enable us to think.Dec 30 01:47
cubezzzdon't use pay tv either :)Dec 30 01:48
msb__The rational mind needs them.Dec 30 01:48
cubezzzmore money for computers :)Dec 30 01:48
msb__In dreams, our rational mind is asleep and our intuitive mind has total control.Dec 30 01:48
msb__What happens when we try to think or figure out something definite in a dream?  We can't.Dec 30 01:49
formic_msb__ you use binaural beats?Dec 30 01:49
msb__No.Dec 30 01:49
formic_ever heard of them?Dec 30 01:49
msb__I was interested in biofeedback years ago, but I don't need it now.Dec 30 01:49
cubezzzformic_, if you ever have the inclination you can _listen_ to my audio blog:Dec 30 01:50
cubezzzhttp://www.youtube.com/cube1024Dec 30 01:50
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cubezzzthere's some video in there tooDec 30 01:50
formic_ill check it outDec 30 01:51
msb__I prefer to close my eyes and guide my consciousness myself, rather than have it influenced by someone else's schedule of brainwave frequencies.Dec 30 01:51
cubezzzwell you can still listen to NPR :)Dec 30 01:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Time travel: Samoa jumps forward 1 day. http://2tu.us/3na8Dec 30 01:53
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formic_msb__ you can craft your own binaural beatsDec 30 01:53
cubezzzit's OK to listen to other people's ideasDec 30 01:53
formic_yes cubezzzDec 30 01:53
formic_you wouldn't want to use someone elses language would you? </sarcasm>Dec 30 01:54
cubezzzI do, but with computer languagesDec 30 01:54
cubezzzand with other language text, there's always google translateDec 30 01:56
formic_heheDec 30 01:56
formic_google "go"Dec 30 01:56
formic_"we don't want to use everyone elses C or Java"Dec 30 01:56
msb__Men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth -- more than ruin, more even than death. -- Bertrand RussellDec 30 02:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Sweden: Press ethics out of control in WikiLeaks case | Lahomstidning http://t.co/Ulnx2EiCDec 30 02:01
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formic_Bertrand Russell would knowDec 30 02:02
formic_hes a jackassDec 30 02:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @sirmacik: So awesome! We'll have it on #telecomixpl while WIP, but it'll be around after the start. ur1.ca/72vu8 by @adiblolDec 30 02:03
msb__formic_: Why do you say that?Dec 30 02:06
msb__Hmm, formic_'s nick in the table is faint.  Guess he's not listening.Dec 30 02:09
msb__I could have said, "Well one of you is", but I was being nice.Dec 30 02:09
msb__If you let AIs handle everything, even the mice will outsmart you. -- Kusanagi - Ghost in the ShellDec 30 02:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @sirmacik: here it is, temporary website for Polish #telecomix mirror, at least for the time while work is in progress. telecomix.plDec 30 02:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] I think I'd look for a Linux-powered #netbook instead if I was transported back to the day I bought my #Android #tablet.Dec 30 02:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] rats for donavon.Dec 30 02:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Wow. #28C3 is amazing. Soo many great people, soo many great topics. I get scratched in the brain over, and over, and o http://ur1.ca/72webDec 30 02:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] JPMorgan job interview pwned by #Occupy ur1.ca/72wvgDec 30 02:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Oh look, @doctorow on soon-to-be-waged war on general computation: ur1.ca/71rnz /hint: my question begins at 43:19 ;) #28C3Dec 30 02:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] oh lawlz. why do anti-abortionists/pro-lifers always seem soo sad?.. ur1.ca/72xpdDec 30 03:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] middle-of-the-night lone hacking at the @telecomix table at #28C3 - #FeelsGoodManDec 30 03:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] With many thanks to @Loquacities, the #Haecksen miniconf schedule is now online #LCA2012Dec 30 03:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] With many thanks to @Loquacities, the #Haecksen miniconf schedule is now online #LCA2012 http://bit.ly/rL9SNz Now with linky goodnessDec 30 03:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Kyle Matthews learns something important about efforts at reform: http://ur1.ca/72yr2Dec 30 03:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @rootbrian Remember people, Li-Ion/LiPo batteries should NEVER be fully drained. They are NOT the same as NiMH or NiCD batteries. You ...Dec 30 04:39
XFaCEAs of 00:00, itDec 30 05:16
XFaCEs my birthdayDec 30 05:16
XFaCEbig 21Dec 30 05:16
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Diablo-D3[11:39:36] -TRIdentica/#techrights- [lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @rootbrian Remember people, Li-Ion/LiPo batteries should NEVER be fully drained. They are NOT the same as NiMH or NiCD batteries. You ...Dec 30 05:34
Diablo-D3hehDec 30 05:34
Diablo-D3yes but the device shouldnt let you fully drain it anyhowDec 30 05:34
formic_I keep mine topped upDec 30 05:35
Diablo-D3yeah, this is what docks were made forDec 30 05:35
Diablo-D3keep it on the dockDec 30 05:35
formic_YessirDec 30 05:36
formic_I tend to use my battery when the device can't be plugged inDec 30 05:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ piratepartyca: Come to "Ottawa Bi-Weekly Pirate Hangout" Tuesday, 10 January 2012 from 19:00 to 21:00. The hope is that http://ur1. ...Dec 30 06:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ piratepartyca: Come to "Halifax Meetup" Sunday, 8 January 2012 from 15:00 to 16:00. A meetup of local pirates hosted by http://ur1. ...Dec 30 06:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Is this real? I really cannot imagine a parent buying this for their child. http://ur1.ca/7330jDec 30 06:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Just donated to the Tor Project. They do fantastic stuff. http://ur1.ca/7334fDec 30 06:41
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formic_Tor roxDec 30 06:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Need help in fixing this bug in Tor: http://ur1.ca/7339x #fbDec 30 06:46
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DaemonFChehDec 30 07:06
XFaCEDaemonFC: that you?Dec 30 07:09
DaemonFCyeahDec 30 07:09
XFaCEyou look... smugDec 30 07:10
*XFaCE gives voice to DaemonFCDec 30 07:11
XFaCEand what are you using?Dec 30 07:11
XFaCE(obv. an android tabletDec 30 07:11
DaemonFCarchos g9Dec 30 07:15
DaemonFCits voice recognition is pretty goodDec 30 07:16
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DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0CVh6MRohUDec 30 07:26
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DaemonFChttp://aoldisks.8m.com/index.htmDec 30 07:35
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DaemonFCAndroid recognizes micro sd cards formatted as ext2Dec 30 07:40
DaemonFCnot surprising, but you never know what they might break because they don't careDec 30 07:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] #LaurynHill Marathon. 35 min inDec 30 07:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @x11r5: @lnxwalt280 I'm no longer need an @-, !- or # tag.Dec 30 07:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @randomcolour: blackDec 30 08:03
prurigroDaemonFC, ext3 and 4 tooDec 30 08:07
prurigro:)Dec 30 08:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] A huge shout out to @zaffle for all his hard work on the Google Map of #LCA2012 place of interest - many thanks! http://bit.ly/v8TwRHDec 30 08:08
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eebrah"<DaemonFC>Android recognizes micro sd cards formatted as ext2"  -- It does? which versions?Dec 30 08:09
DaemonFCI have 3.2.1Dec 30 08:09
prurigroeebrah, you need a particular app if you're using stock androidDec 30 08:09
prurigrodrivemountDec 30 08:10
eebrahprurigro: thanks man!Dec 30 08:10
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prurigrothe kernel supports all the filesystems, but they don't get auto mountedDec 30 08:10
prurigronp :)Dec 30 08:10
DaemonFCmine didDec 30 08:11
DaemonFCI was listening to my music in Ogg Vorbis format off an ext formatted micro SD cardDec 30 08:12
DaemonFCin Winamp :PDec 30 08:12
eebrahDaemonFC: damn!Dec 30 08:12
eebrahAll my music is in oggDec 30 08:12
eebrahbut I use FAT mem cardsDec 30 08:12
DaemonFCI may subscribe to last.fm againDec 30 08:14
DaemonFCtheir app is pretty goodDec 30 08:14
DaemonFCI'm using a free Android trialDec 30 08:14
DaemonFClistening to the Banshee User station right nowDec 30 08:15
DaemonFCit was still in my groupsDec 30 08:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] just installed #phpPgAdmin ...... it is not letting me log in :(Dec 30 08:16
DaemonFCduke nukem 3dDec 30 08:16
DaemonFCfree?Dec 30 08:16
DaemonFChttp://www.extremetech.com/computing/104827-android-antivirus-apps-are-useless-heres-what-to-do-insteadDec 30 08:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Hate Internet censorship? #Moveyourdomain to @namecheap, @NS1net or @gandibar to protest #SOPA & donate $1-$2 to @eff https://eff.org/r.N9aDec 30 08:24
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1109520 "Replicant for the masses!"Dec 30 08:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzag Identizens. @Sanderch that all came over in a terse manner which was not my intention, enjoy the rest of your hols.Dec 30 08:36
DaemonFCdownloading Opera MobileDec 30 08:37
DaemonFC[03:12] <hyper_ch> lol, someone's selling an apple 5-year employee award for $2k on ebay http://techcrunch.com/2011/12/30/idol/Dec 30 08:37
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DaemonFC[03:12] <Sho_> maaybe gruber can buy it ..Dec 30 08:37
DaemonFC[03:13] <hyper_ch> :)Dec 30 08:37
DaemonFCmaybe MinceRDec 30 08:37
DaemonFCMinceR: Is a Genius, an Apple Genius Dec 30 08:38
DaemonFC:)Dec 30 08:38
XFaCEMinceR: and apple? what?Dec 30 08:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Drwho there is an absolute shed load of Dr Who books available for download on P Bay a quick search will find them. Unfortunatley PDF'sDec 30 08:55
DaemonFCI got Opera Mobile to take urlfilter.iniDec 30 09:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] If you download the books then Calibre can be used to convert them to another format (Epub for eg)Dec 30 09:08
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DaemonFCand I changed its user agent to tell sites it is Opera 11.5 for the desktopDec 30 09:09
DaemonFCrunning on LinuxDec 30 09:09
DaemonFCso I won't get mobile sitesDec 30 09:09
scienteswutDec 30 09:10
DaemonFCif sites see "mobile" or "Android" in the user agent, they give you some shit version meant for phonesDec 30 09:12
DaemonFCnot the full siteDec 30 09:12
scientesahhDec 30 09:13
DaemonFCso I had Opera Mobile say it is Opera for Linux insteadDec 30 09:13
scientesI turned on the mysql backend for amarok and it took 15 minutes to start up, twiceDec 30 09:14
DaemonFCuseragent switcher for Firefox does not work in Firefox MobileDec 30 09:14
DaemonFCso you're stuck with the crap version of a lot of sitesDec 30 09:14
Diablo-D3because amarok is gay.Dec 30 09:14
scientesabout:configDec 30 09:14
DaemonFCOpera uses the same exact rendering engine everywhereDec 30 09:14
scientesDaemonFC, easy to change user agent in firefox via about:configDec 30 09:15
DaemonFCso the version of Mobile should be jsut as capable as Opera 11.5 desktop isDec 30 09:15
scientesso does firefoxDec 30 09:15
scientesand webkit browsersDec 30 09:15
Diablo-D3firefox has a plugin for it tooDec 30 09:15
scientesDiablo-D3, said it didn't work in mobile ^^^Dec 30 09:16
Diablo-D3its a firefox plugin, not a fennic pluginDec 30 09:18
Diablo-D3also, dolphin has user agent switching, even comes with a few useful onesDec 30 09:18
DaemonFCOpera Mobile is freaking sweetDec 30 09:22
DaemonFCFirefox 10 manages to take over 250 MB of RAMDec 30 09:22
DaemonFCOpera Mobile takes just over 100Dec 30 09:22
DaemonFCFirefox Mobile is doing for Android what it did for the desktopDec 30 09:23
DaemonFCswelling up to take like half the memory for itselfDec 30 09:23
DaemonFChttps://market.android.com/details?id=com.magicandroidapps.bettertermpro&feature=related_apps#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEwOSwiY29tLm1hZ2ljYW5kcm9pZGFwcHMuYmV0dGVydGVybXBybyJdDec 30 09:27
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DaemonFChmmmDec 30 09:27
-christel-[Global Notice] Having consumed vast quantities of turkey, celebrated the birth of Isaac Newton and sought refuge in the internet whilst our families all went mad this Christmas, we're now getting ready for 2012! #freenode-newyears is now open, and those of you wishing to avoid the various countdowns and New Year's cheer may wish to /mode -w for the next couple of days! Dec 30 09:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #OpenStreetMap: The Next Wave Of Commoditization For Startups? - http://bit.ly/ruxEqL moving up the business stack #opensource #osmDec 30 09:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Interview with Jim Zemlin, #Linux Foundation, Part II - http://bit.ly/vNEiQI insights on the world of #embedded systems and #asiaDec 30 09:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] LibreOffice is #1 of the 10 best Open Source Products of 2011 at CRN: http://bit.ly/tDB0yQ !libo !tdfDec 30 09:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Congrats! http://ur1.ca/738lrDec 30 10:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Thatcher urged to abandon #Liverpool to "managed decline" http://goo.gl/WRfeR - sounds very Tory-esqeDec 30 11:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Ghost Rider writer loses legal bid http://ur1.ca/73aaf standard of shafting the creators in full effectDec 30 11:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the corporate standard is a contract that's designed to give you peanuts AND sign away all your rights at the same time - legally dishonestDec 30 11:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Ghost Rider writer loses legal bid .::. Size~: 61.78 KBDec 30 11:13
DaemonFCDawn went to work and left her alarm onDec 30 11:13
DaemonFCAgainDec 30 11:14
oiaohmDaemonFC: Was it one of those alarms that runs and hides?Dec 30 11:15
DaemonFCProbably a combination alarm clock in vibrating dildoDec 30 11:15
DaemonFC:-) Dec 30 11:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I must be a grinch; cos I'm not into all the end of year listsDec 30 11:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #JackWarner claims he bought #WorldCup rights for $1 http://gu.com/p/34cex - yet another example of the rotting caucus !football #FIFADec 30 11:16
DaemonFCShe probably keep sit next to her box of wineDec 30 11:16
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DaemonFCI installed a nightly Firefox for androidDec 30 11:21
DaemonFCThe native UI is much betterDec 30 11:21
DaemonFCUses less memory tooDec 30 11:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Bethlehem's church of the punch-up http://gu.com/p/34c75 #brilliantDec 30 11:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] China: Police border control servers got hacked http://goo.gl/WWhlTDec 30 11:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bethlehem's church of the punch-up | Giles Fraser | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 256.97 KBDec 30 11:22
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DaemonFCI am amazed there is a Firefox mobile at allDec 30 11:25
DaemonFCGecko and xul are not exactly nimbleDec 30 11:25
oiaohmFirefox moblie is not using xulDec 30 11:26
oiaohmgecko is fairly nimbleDec 30 11:26
DaemonFCIt isDec 30 11:26
DaemonFCUntil 11Dec 30 11:26
DaemonFCThe fact that all the desktop extensions using xul work proves thatDec 30 11:26
DaemonFCThe native UI will temporarily break all extensionsDec 30 11:27
oiaohmThat the extentions work does not mean that the main interface is fully xulDec 30 11:27
DaemonFCWladimir palant said it is just the UI of the add on that needs a rewriteDec 30 11:27
DaemonFCNot the restDec 30 11:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] should celebs be legally accountable for endorsing bad science if people follow it and get side effects? http://goo.gl/xA6cuDec 30 11:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: High-heel orgasms? Colon cleanses? Celebrity 'science' is a bad joke | Tracey Brown | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 258.17 KBDec 30 11:29
DaemonFCAdblock plus currently only works with Firefox for android 10 and earlierDec 30 11:31
DaemonFCIt does not work at all in native GUI buildsDec 30 11:31
DaemonFCAds are so bloated, offensive, and annoying that any browser that can't block them is useless to meDec 30 11:32
DaemonFCOn android that leaves Firefox and opera mobileDec 30 11:33
DaemonFCI wouldn't mind unblocking Google text ads if it wasn't for their ad policies allowing malware and phishing sitesDec 30 11:34
DaemonFCI remember once I noticed that an AdSense link didn't trigger the built in safe browsing from GoogleDec 30 11:34
DaemonFCBut clicking on a regular result for the same site didDec 30 11:35
DaemonFCIt leads me to believe they have an anything goes policy for advertisers that pay themDec 30 11:35
DaemonFCVlc documented their attempt to get Google to take down an ad linking to a malicious vlc installer packed with spywareDec 30 11:38
DaemonFCIt took over a month of public shaming to get Google to take down just oneDec 30 11:38
DaemonFCThere are thousands more examplesDec 30 11:39
oiaohmReally it is sometime setting up proper releation ship with google.Dec 30 11:39
oiaohmWine project does not have very much trouble at getting any ads like that taken down.Dec 30 11:40
oiaohmBasically google knows who are the wine leads.Dec 30 11:40
DaemonFCI threw IMO in the trashDec 30 11:53
DaemonFCJust using talk for the momentDec 30 11:53
DaemonFCThe IMO app has all kinds of bugsDec 30 11:54
DaemonFCConsidering using trillianDec 30 11:54
DaemonFCOiaohm free and decent Instant messenger for android.....Dec 30 11:58
DaemonFCSuggestionsDec 30 11:58
DaemonFCBeejive looks goodDec 30 11:58
DaemonFC$5Dec 30 11:58
DaemonFCI'd pay it if I knew it worked wellDec 30 11:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Amazing pix and story of a very tall N. Korean - http://ur1.ca/73bj5 #fbDec 30 11:59
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oiaohmDaemonFC: I don't need any other messenger than something for pidgen Dec 30 12:00
oiaohmOppsDec 30 12:01
oiaohmjabberDec 30 12:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @verdorama Six Free Software Packages to Load on Your New PC: http://ur1.ca/73bisDec 30 12:02
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DaemonFCGoogle talk is jabberDec 30 12:02
DaemonFCWith federationDec 30 12:02
DaemonFC:-) Dec 30 12:02
oiaohmExactlyDec 30 12:02
oiaohmMost business networks I deal with are just jabber servers.Dec 30 12:02
oiaohmSo I don't need anything else.Dec 30 12:02
oiaohmAt least not on the move.Dec 30 12:04
oiaohmon a android device.Dec 30 12:04
DaemonFCFacebook uses the protocol without federationDec 30 12:04
DaemonFCSo its really just Facebook chatDec 30 12:04
oiaohmReally you can still port hole facebook jabber into a internal jabber server.Dec 30 12:05
DaemonFCFirst thing I bought was winamp proDec 30 12:07
DaemonFC:-) Dec 30 12:07
DaemonFCI might get beejiveDec 30 12:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #iPhone tells lad: ‘Shut the f*** up’ http://goo.gl/577ol lol - I'd bet the 12yr old uses similar language away from momDec 30 12:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] HTC Bows to Customer Demand, Unlocks #Android Bootloader - http://bit.ly/uWUfWD great trendDec 30 13:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ICANN Chair: We will not delay or restrict new gTLD program - http://bit.ly/sGAwlY madness: this will end in net-wide tears #securityDec 30 13:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Monmouthpedia: #Wikipedia’s new project covering life in the Welsh town of Monmouth - http://tnw.co/uqD7Ti great move #walesDec 30 13:12
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DaemonFC`rightDec 30 13:13
DaemonFC`putting the tablet to sleep doesn't log me out of andchatDec 30 13:13
DaemonFC`this willDec 30 13:13
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DaemonFCThere can be only one!Dec 30 13:14
DaemonFCB-)Dec 30 13:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ICANN Chair: We will not delay or restrict new gTLD program - http://bit.ly/sGAwlY madness: this will end in net-wide tears #securityDec 30 13:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] High Street Blues - http://bit.ly/rwhvtE great, reasoned analysis of the coming bloodbath #retailing #economics #demographicsDec 30 13:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Woof! GreenGoose's Household Wireless Sensors Now Available for Order - http://ur1.ca/73dv7 plenty of clever hacks with these... #domoticsDec 30 13:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GreenGoose's Household Wireless Sensors Now Available for Pre-Order - Liz Gannes - News - AllThingsD .::. Size~: 85.45 KBDec 30 13:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] in that light, right to modify s/w only important to "authors" and not to users right?Dec 30 13:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Occupy Geeks Are Building a Facebook for the 99% - http://bit.ly/tg6rKJ I know redundancy is good, but what about building on #diaspora?Dec 30 13:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Occupy Geeks Are Building a Facebook for the 99% | Threat Level | Wired.com .::. Size~: 68.93 KBDec 30 13:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] in today's world, can you think of an ethical way to effectively enforce ND?Dec 30 13:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #2012: Presidential Candidate Ron Paul Slams SOPA http://identi.ca/url/63454276 !effDec 30 13:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] are you sure it is an end? is it rather a means to effect a change is the people who experience it? does art have no effect on anyone?Dec 30 13:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A Defender of World’s Whales Sees Only a Tenuous Recovery - http://bit.ly/w03o08 sickening details of "scientific" whaling #japanDec 30 13:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] more than that. can a restriction be effectively enforced without mucking with freedom for all in related and unrelated areas?Dec 30 13:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Symbian is still top mobile OS - finished 2011 with resurgence - http://bit.ly/vUtPw3 pity #nokia is killing it, then... #mobileDec 30 13:45
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DaemonFCnow that my ISP is ripping me off, it's tempting to use Opera TurboDec 30 13:47
abeNd-orgsymbian? I havent seen that in the wild in agesDec 30 13:50
DaemonFCI looked and they took an extra $20 from me over the last six monthsDec 30 13:51
DaemonFCnever informing me I was under a capDec 30 13:51
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MinceRmy smartphone runs symbianDec 30 14:03
MinceRit's crapDec 30 14:03
MinceRit is only willing to install software which has a valid certificate and signature, but the certificate eventually expiresDec 30 14:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Six Free Software Packages to Load on Your New PC: http://wmk.me/uehvtk (pass this to a friend!)Dec 30 14:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] problem is thinking "rationale does not fit elsewhere therefore freedoms not needed elsewhere" rationale may fit elsewhere.Dec 30 14:04
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MinceRat least the GUI is good -- it's the first mobile OS i've used that didn't need additional software to be installed to be usable, unlike PalmOS and WinMob5Dec 30 14:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] New poll: Open*Law 2011 best images | http://red.ht/vhj4L5 #flickrDec 30 14:12
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MinceRgeekingsDec 30 14:12
DaemonFChmmmDec 30 14:22
DaemonFCthey said I went overDec 30 14:22
DaemonFCbut my bill doesn't have an overage charge on it for the months in questionDec 30 14:22
DaemonFCand it's the same amount I always payDec 30 14:23
DaemonFCit would be nice if just once, they explained what the fuck I am paying forDec 30 14:23
DaemonFCfucking AT&TDec 30 14:23
DaemonFC:PDec 30 14:23
DaemonFCI wouldn't put it past them that they're so stupid that they make billing errors in my favorDec 30 14:26
DaemonFCnobody I've spoken to at AT&T seems to know what they're doing, and they all tell you something differentDec 30 14:26
DaemonFC"Our new plan addresses another concern: customers strongly believe that only those who use the most bandwidth should pay more than those who don't use as much. That's exactly what this does – and again, 98% of our customers will not be impacted by this."Dec 30 14:28
DaemonFCthen perhaps he'd like to explain why nobody on their service is paying less than they wre before, even though they are overcharging the people that go over the capDec 30 14:29
DaemonFCno?Dec 30 14:29
DaemonFCthat's nice that they inform you about their new policy by letting you go over and shouting "gotcha!"Dec 30 14:30
DaemonFCstay classyDec 30 14:31
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abeNd-orgapparently at&t thinks everyone is in the top 2%Dec 30 14:36
abeNd-orginteresting mathDec 30 14:36
DaemonFCabeNd-org: There's my instant justification for Adblock PlusDec 30 14:40
DaemonFCI've gone over twice, apparently they give you two warnings before they start chargingDec 30 14:40
DaemonFCwithout Adblock Plus, from looking at my data usage, I would have gone just over the 150 GB at least a further 4 times in the last year from the additional bandwidth of advertisingDec 30 14:41
MinceRcustomers strongly believe that all the other customers should be paying more than theyDec 30 14:42
DaemonFCif that had happened, I would have ended up paying AT&T an additional ~$50-$100 for this year's DSL billsDec 30 14:42
DaemonFCan amount that comes up to an additional two months of serviceDec 30 14:42
DaemonFCthey just found another way to gougeDec 30 14:42
DaemonFCand take a bit here and there with most people not noticingDec 30 14:43
DaemonFCand everyone else figuring it's too small to spend their life on the phone trying to get a refundDec 30 14:43
DaemonFC(or suing over)Dec 30 14:43
DaemonFCbut you know, if you're teetering on going over 150 GB with ad blocking on....Dec 30 14:44
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DaemonFClike say, 146-147 for the monthDec 30 14:44
DaemonFCyou know that if you had it off that whole month, the sheer amount of advertising probably would have pushed you jsut over the topDec 30 14:44
Diablo-D3customers are stupidDec 30 14:44
DaemonFCand then you get dinged $10 by AT&T for looking at advertisementsDec 30 14:45
Diablo-D3[09:04:39] -TRIdentica/#techrights- [webmink/@webmink] Six Free Software Packages to Load on Your New PC: http://wmk.me/uehvtk  (pass this to a friend!)Dec 30 14:45
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Diablo-D3linux is not free softwareDec 30 14:45
Diablo-D3so there goes 1Dec 30 14:45
Diablo-D3infact, almost all of those are outDec 30 14:45
Diablo-D3they do not contain anti-patent clausesDec 30 14:45
Diablo-D3they are no longer free software according to the RMS dominionDec 30 14:46
DaemonFCI hate wordpress's quick post thingDec 30 14:46
DaemonFCit uses about 5% of my monitor spaceDec 30 14:47
DaemonFCand removes all the features I useDec 30 14:47
DaemonFCand then they make it hard to find the full editorDec 30 14:47
abeNd-orgyeah, if you download a linux distro via bittorrent & watch a few movies on netflix, you are toastDec 30 14:48
Diablo-D3seriously, no gplv3? fuck that.Dec 30 14:49
Diablo-D3death to rich people!Dec 30 14:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] GEMA took down YT video of #28C3 talk. P2P YouTube anyone? I'd love your input! ur1.ca/73g70 /cc @hackerspaceplDec 30 14:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @glynmoody: HTC Bows to Customer Demand, Unlocks #Android Bootloader - http://bit.ly/uWUfWD great trendDec 30 14:53
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DaemonFCabeNd-org: I'm writing all about this problem on my blogDec 30 14:55
DaemonFCthey send my mom's cell phone crap to my email address because she doesn't even know how to turn a computer onDec 30 14:55
DaemonFCand so I thought that data cap crap was about her cell phoneDec 30 14:55
DaemonFC"So I called over to their house, told my step dad that they might want to watch how much data they use over there and inadvertently started a fight that hasn't let up between them yet. As soon as I found out that this was not about them, but was about AT&T DSL, I have never felt so pissed off in my life. I started World War III over there over something AT&T did to screw me over that has nothing to do with them."Dec 30 14:55
DaemonFCgod fucking damn AT&TDec 30 14:56
DaemonFCstraight to the fires of hellDec 30 14:56
DaemonFCbefore anyone says anything, they need to invent fires of hell just to send AT&T's management thereDec 30 14:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Johnson & Johnson Refuses To License Three #HIV Drugs To Medicines #Patent Pool; Invites Patent Override - http://bit.ly/rFrbk6 lovelyDec 30 14:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz no, users need the freedom to modify the software so as to get the computer to perform the computation they wantDec 30 14:57
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DaemonFCI vote we do thatDec 30 14:57
DaemonFCabeNd-org? You?Dec 30 14:57
DaemonFCI don't want to be the only person livid at AT&T hereDec 30 14:57
DaemonFClets get some pitch forks and torches and have a weenie roast using their CEODec 30 14:57
DaemonFCtheir company is so unprofessionalDec 30 14:57
DaemonFCHotmail is a nightmare to use on a mobile phone btwDec 30 14:59
DaemonFCjust in case I forgot to mention thatDec 30 14:59
DaemonFCI had to use their webmail interface the other dayDec 30 14:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz without this right, the computer will interpret the software in the same way, carrying out the same unwanted computationDec 30 15:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz I haven't thought about that at all, so let me borrow your thoughts: can you think of an ethical way to enforce a contract?Dec 30 15:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz effect, influence, yes. unescapable control, no.Dec 30 15:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz good thing that's not my thinking ;-) “rationale doesn't fit therefore analogy is unjustified & essential freedoms may be different”Dec 30 15:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz note that different doesn't carry any information on whether it's more or fewer freedoms, nor whether they're more or less importantDec 30 15:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Doctorow: The coming war on general-purpose computation http://ur1.ca/73giyDec 30 15:06
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DaemonFC"Why aren't they sending this crap to my ATT.NET email account? That's my official AT&T email account. They sent those hilarious and absurd warnings about IRC being Windows malware to that address earlier this year. I do check it now and then to see if there are any account notices. Not quite as often as I could, but anyone who relies on ISP email is stupid. It is instant lock-in. If you ever leave that ISP, like I likely will with AT&T in the Dec 30 15:08
DaemonFCcoming months, then they simply delete your email address and give you no forwarding options."Dec 30 15:08
DaemonFC"Note to website owners: Sure I feel for you, but I am not going to turn my ad blocking off and pay another $10-$20 a month in overage fees for the bandwidth that your 10 foot tall Microsoft ads in flash (the example I used was Phoronix.com at one point). If you would like to replace them with ONLY static ads or Google text ads, which do not chew bandwidth, and then apologize and promise on your site to never resort to that behavior again, then I Dec 30 15:18
DaemonFCpromise to consider whitelisting your site. As it is though, I don't feel like paying highway robbery to get Microsoft ads in flash and "buzzing mosquitoes" and "shoot-the-monkeys"."Dec 30 15:18
abeNd-orgi have sprint for my personal cell, & verizon for work cell, never touched the at&t networkDec 30 15:19
DaemonFCdon'tDec 30 15:19
DaemonFCAT&T is a bunch of filthy whoremongering sleazebags Dec 30 15:19
DaemonFCfirst their voluntary MAFIAA dealDec 30 15:20
DaemonFCand now thisDec 30 15:20
DaemonFCabeNd-org: Did you know that calling AT&T a bunch of filthy whoremongering sleazebags is grounds for them to cancel my DSL service?Dec 30 15:20
DaemonFC:DDec 30 15:20
DaemonFCper their terms of useDec 30 15:20
DaemonFCit says you may not use AT&T's network to say anything bad about AT&TDec 30 15:21
DaemonFChttps://daemonfc.wordpress.com/2011/12/30/att-finds-another-way-to-mug-their-customers/Dec 30 15:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I'm getting peppier response than yesterday. I'm going to set up a new slave DB server to speed things up.Dec 30 15:25
abeNd-orgDaemonFC: no doubt, look at the old ms frontpage eula, you werent allowed to use it to put up an anti-microsoft pageDec 30 15:30
DaemonFCwho would?Dec 30 15:30
abeNd-orgplenty of people did, even apache had front page addons so there must have been a marketDec 30 15:31
DaemonFCif you're motivated enough to put up an anti-Microsoft page, why would you be using a broken WYSIWYG editor that's full of bugs and optimizes for IE instead of web standards?Dec 30 15:31
DaemonFCsure Apache has that crapDec 30 15:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] That made me laugh... Ubuntu Satanic Edition does not have a live CD it has an undead CD.Dec 30 15:32
DaemonFCthere are some people who are using Apache on Windows for some ungodly reasonDec 30 15:32
DaemonFCthey probably paid $5,000 to deck out their Geo Metro tooDec 30 15:32
DaemonFC:)Dec 30 15:32
abeNd-orgWAMP worked pretty well for the customer i had to use it at, they only had one physical server & this was well before the days of virtual serversDec 30 15:33
DaemonFCApache is being tossed to the side more and more lately anywayDec 30 15:33
DaemonFCyou notice nginx is popping up everywhere now?Dec 30 15:33
DaemonFCI'm not really sure I want Apache to succeed since Microsoft is a voting member of their foundationDec 30 15:34
DaemonFCit's preferable to IISDec 30 15:34
DaemonFCbut it's probably about time that something takes over that won't allow itself to be affiliated or partially steered by MicrosoftDec 30 15:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] imagine if the #Chinese govt were behind the attacks, to give #US style "protection" PR to it's people http://goo.gl/EnSJEDec 30 15:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - China seeks to combat hi-tech crimewave .::. Size~: 65 KBDec 30 15:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] we will monitor everything you say to everyone, and edit where required for your own safetyDec 30 15:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] #WINRAR ♻ @wunschik: Hacking Smart Meters at the #28C3. At the end of the talk the CEO of the Company stands up and thanks the hackers.Dec 30 15:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Just uploaded my manuscript to American NaturalistDec 30 15:58
DaemonFCnoticed Spotify has an Android appDec 30 15:58
DaemonFCanyone used it?Dec 30 15:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz as Lessig put it, Code is Law. but IMHO it's not like laws as learned in law school, but rather like laws of natureDec 30 15:59
DaemonFCSpotify has a free 30 day thing right nowDec 30 16:02
DaemonFCno harm if I hate it I guessDec 30 16:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Now what do I do?Dec 30 16:04
iophkIt's still DRM'd isn't it?Dec 30 16:05
DaemonFCit streams in Ogg Vorbis I thinkDec 30 16:06
DaemonFChttp://androidcommunity.com/android-4-0-hitting-archos-g9-tablets-in-q1-2012-20111212/Dec 30 16:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Android 4.0 hitting Archos G9 tablets in Q1 2012 | Android Community .::. Size~: 50.99 KBDec 30 16:08
DaemonFCso I get a free upgrade to Ice Cream Sandwich in the next couple monthsDec 30 16:08
DaemonFCor to Plasma Active 2Dec 30 16:08
DaemonFCthey're making a firmware replacement that replaces Android with Plasma Active for users that want thatDec 30 16:09
DaemonFCI noticed one thing about Android right awayDec 30 16:10
DaemonFCdon't use those Live WallpapersDec 30 16:10
DaemonFCthey suck up at least 30 MB of RAMDec 30 16:10
DaemonFCthat's like almost 8% of the total RAM that comes with most tabletsDec 30 16:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Queru: Another year of AOSP http://ur1.ca/73idrDec 30 16:13
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/ch_s/statuses/152672456249847808Dec 30 16:14
TechrightsBot-tr@ch_s: @schestowitz : Somewhat important: a migration to Vista OR to Win7?Dec 30 16:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Malcolm Gladwell on human capitalization http://ur1.ca/73ifj #youtubeDec 30 16:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Capitalizing on Human Potential       - YouTube .::. Size~: 124.53 KBDec 30 16:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz as Lessig put it, Code is Law. but IMHO it's not like laws as learned in law school, but rather like laws of natureDec 30 16:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Five open source technologies for 2012 (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/sOrI2sDec 30 16:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Five open source technologies for 2012 - Computerworld .::. Size~: 132.66 KBDec 30 16:17
DaemonFChttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_usb_fs&num=2Dec 30 16:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Testing Out Linux File-Systems On A USB Flash Drive .::. Size~: 17.89 KBDec 30 16:17
DaemonFCThere's a good argument for getting rid of FAT32 if you canDec 30 16:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Ihttp://www.crunchbase.com/company/any-doDec 30 16:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Any.DO | CrunchBase Profile .::. Size~: 22.59 KBDec 30 16:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] If #Logos Were Honest - http://bit.ly/tkcTcp I don't think these are new (?), but they're quite witty (v @jscarantino @whiteafrican)Dec 30 16:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: If Logos Were Honest ~ Damn Cool Pictures .::. Size~: 306.57 KBDec 30 16:28
iophkSo EXT3 is best for flash drives.  How can camera firmware be upgraded?Dec 30 16:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Amazing: @Namecheap raised $63,000 to help us fight #SOPA. #MoveYourDomain in the next 30 min to donate $2 to @eff https://eff.org/r.N9aDec 30 16:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: #MoveYourDomain to Protest the Internet Blacklist Bills | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 31.5 KBDec 30 16:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Wiki-based learning http://wp.me/pT1St-94 #sex_math_programmingDec 30 16:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Haven't read the book, but I was surprised how much the "Girl with the Dragon Tattoo" movie makes data mining exciting!Dec 30 16:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wiki-based learning: a proposal for college science courses « Sex, math and programming .::. Size~: 44.26 KBDec 30 16:38
DaemonFCto support different filesystems?Dec 30 16:39
DaemonFCyou can'tDec 30 16:39
DaemonFCbut Android seems to recognize all Ext filesystemsDec 30 16:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] If #Logos Were Honest - http://bit.ly/tkcTcp I don't think these are new (?), but they're quite witty (v @jscarantino @whiteafrican)Dec 30 16:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: If Logos Were Honest ~ Damn Cool Pictures .::. Size~: 306.57 KBDec 30 16:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] "We are the dancing mechanic" (Kraftwerk "The Robots," YouTube): http://ur1.ca/73jdzDec 30 16:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] http://thinkupapp.com/Dec 30 16:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] FDA Documents Show Agency Once Strongly Opposed Farm Antibiotic Overuse - http://bit.ly/rqvHhn strange how facts change... #lobbyingDec 30 16:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ThinkUp: Social Media Insights Platform .::. Size~: 16.55 KBDec 30 16:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz as Lessig put it, Code is Law. but IMHO it's not like laws as learned in law school, but rather like laws of natureDec 30 16:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Dazzling Satellite Views of Vast Moon Crater - http://bit.ly/uFd1aB oooh, pretty #scienceDec 30 16:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] wow, just wow! /me applauds vigorously! ♻ @rbanffy: Transcript of @doctorow 's 28C3 keynote http://ur1.ca/73g8b via @BoingBoingDec 30 16:46
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Transcript of my 28C3 keynote - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 27.43 KBDec 30 16:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] sorry about the dupes, there seems to be something wrong with identi.ca or identica-mode or my network connectionDec 30 16:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] In the distant future--in the year 2000--robots will vanquish mankind (Flight of the Concords "The Robots," /YouTube): http://bit.ly/rPCG4cDec 30 16:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The best tech writing of 2011 (The Verge): http://bit.ly/tHsBHlDec 30 16:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The best tech writing of 2011 | The Verge .::. Size~: 92.83 KBDec 30 16:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] China mulls backing U.S.'s push to move to UTC (from GMT ) as the official time-keeping standard (China News Watch): http://bit.ly/vSrRsRDec 30 17:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Coming War on General Computation - http://bit.ly/uw8LlW IMHO the best talk of @doctorow yet; read it - it's crucially importantDec 30 17:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Samoa moves to the other side of the world – and misses a day! (Naked Security): http://bit.ly/sZncwYDec 30 17:04
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*schestowitz just made tons of schnitzel for New Year's, now time for cablegateDec 30 17:10
iophkschnitzel?Dec 30 17:10
schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SchnitzelDec 30 17:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open*Law: 2011 in review by @suehle | http://red.ht/rzDdmS #sopa #ftc #bilskiDec 30 17:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #Growingup is having bills in your name.Dec 30 17:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @netivity Happy holidays from the 3 wise men @netivity, and a splendid New Year!Dec 30 17:13
schestowitzTomorrow is a bad day for posts, right?Dec 30 17:14
schestowitzSat+vacationDec 30 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Idea to shoot Weddin with HD capable phones promptly shot down.Dec 30 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Been asked to find "real video cameras" after spendin 15 minutes to explain HD to aunt *sigh*Dec 30 17:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Data and twitter via text are half my Airtel postpaid bill.Dec 30 17:19
schestowitzOops. I realise now that I forgot popcorn... would be nice to have while watching films. I'll get it next time.Dec 30 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Potrait of a bride the night before the wedding: Surprisingly calmDec 30 17:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: UNESCO Was Pro-Free Software Before Gates and #Microsoft Intervention http://goo.gl/7iKkv #wikileaks #libyaDec 30 17:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Got a day to type up my end of year postDec 30 17:31
iophkschestowitz: pork schnitzel is very tastyDec 30 17:36
iophkdidn't know the right name for it in English.Dec 30 17:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @ LupeFiasco Kwanzaa Day 5: Nia (Purpose): To make our collective vocation the building and developing of our community...Dec 30 17:36
schestowitzIs there an English name for it?Dec 30 17:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @LupeFiasco ...in order to restore our people to their traditional greatness. Habari Gani #Kwanzaa2011Dec 30 17:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: #Lithuania ‘Watched’ for Not Accepting Monopoly/’IP’ Regime From West, Government Adoption of Free SW http://goo.gl/9PgbtDec 30 17:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cablegate: Lithuania ‘Watched’ for Not Accepting Monopoly/’IP’ Regime From West, Government Adoption of Free Software Noted | Techrights .::. Size~: 110.79 KBDec 30 17:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Attendin your future bah-in-law's stag night,bad idea/good idea?Dec 30 17:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] 2011 in Review: prosecutors and companies misuse hopelessly vague hacking law https://eff.org/r.M75Dec 30 17:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: Business Software Alliance (BSA) Pretends to Speak for Open Source http://ur1.ca/73lyxDec 30 17:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: Peru’s Migration to Free/Open Source Software http://ur1.ca/73mdv #peruDec 30 18:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it's a rare moment when a project you're working on fits so perfectly with an available domain name, when it happens you can't stop smilingDec 30 18:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] well....I say "available" - it was.....it's not now :D \o/ #myprecioussssssDec 30 18:18
DaemonFCthat was disgustingDec 30 18:18
DaemonFCI just downed a big gulp of tea leavesDec 30 18:18
DaemonFCteabag must have rippedDec 30 18:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ghostler/@ghostler] #FUD agents in #monopoly maintenance promote #Microsoft & demote #Linux in Usenet advocacy groups http://ur1.ca/73mm9Dec 30 18:19
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DaemonFCI hate that you see all this stuff promoting Compiz stillDec 30 18:22
DaemonFCwho the hell uses it?Dec 30 18:23
DaemonFCthe versions of it that worked sometimes are all old and unsupportedDec 30 18:23
DaemonFCCompiz crashes a lot and has other problemsDec 30 18:24
DaemonFCMutter is stable, but really slow Dec 30 18:24
DaemonFCkwin usually worksDec 30 18:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @parlementum: All [©r&P] law evolved from the habit of late Medieval kings granting monopolies to favorites. 500y later we can do better.Dec 30 18:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] US Box Office Revenue Finally Drops; But Not Because Of Infringement http://goo.gl/Icq5pDec 30 18:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: US Box Office Revenue Finally Drops; But Not Because Of Infringement | Techdirt .::. Size~: 100.46 KBDec 30 18:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: Microsoft’s Friends at Frost and Sullivan Bash South Africa’s Migration to Free Software http://ur1.ca/73nccDec 30 18:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Thanks @Namecheap for raising us over $64,000 so that we can keep fighting #SOPA! https://eff.org/r.N9a #MoveYourDomainDec 30 18:54
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schestowitz"and those are the crazies :)" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1109554Dec 30 18:55
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1109554 "OMC! Want!"Dec 30 18:55
TechrightsBot-tr@: Dec 30 18:55
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1109554 "In the nicest possible way, no amount of keyboard short cuts will help one find the data you need in one of a dozen open spreadsheets, 3 or 4 word documents and the odd power point. And THAT is why a toolbar at the bottom of the screen will always beat a dock for me."Dec 30 18:56
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DaemonFCI need to get a screen protectorDec 30 18:57
DaemonFCthat screen turns into a smudgy messDec 30 18:57
DaemonFCthen you wipe it downDec 30 18:57
DaemonFC5 minutes later, smudgy messDec 30 18:57
schestowitzwhy?Dec 30 18:57
schestowitztablet?Dec 30 18:57
schestowitzor monitor?Dec 30 18:57
DaemonFCyeahDec 30 18:57
DaemonFCtabletDec 30 18:57
schestowitzMine need cleaning about once a monthDec 30 18:57
schestowitzUsually after I sneeze without preparingDec 30 18:57
DaemonFCmy fingers seem to be fairly oily or somethingDec 30 18:58
schestowitzor if food finds its way there due to quick eating... something like that. Happens rarelyDec 30 18:58
schestowitzDaemonFC: don't surf pr0n on your tabletDec 30 18:58
DaemonFCewwwDec 30 18:58
DaemonFCno, not thatDec 30 18:58
DaemonFCbbiabDec 30 18:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Doctors Discover Copyright Law: Cognitive Screening Test Killed Over Infringement Claims - http://bit.ly/v87XWi why #copyright was inventedDec 30 18:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] There's no single cause; I think it can be directly attributed to losing Jordan and Aric.Dec 30 19:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] OK, I've added in the new slave server. Seems to have helped somewhat.Dec 30 19:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] http://identi.ca/url/63474146Dec 30 19:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] One good step would be to get an XMPP bot from StatusNet 1.0 up and running in a dev environment. I haven't used it much. /cc @candrewsDec 30 19:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Israeli law firm threatens to sue #Twitter over alleged #Hezbollah accounts - http://tnw.co/vlg1vF uh-huhDec 30 19:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Are you in Encinitas?Dec 30 19:09
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schestowitzubernetsplitDec 30 19:24
schestowitzLet me merge what was missing on the other side ot the split (that many missed)Dec 30 19:25
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schestowitz[19:09] <TechrightsBot-tr> Title: Israeli Law Firm Threatens to Sue Twitter .::. Size~: 93.54 KBDec 30 19:25
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schestowitz[19:14] <schestowitz> I guess that techrights has become more of a project and not a news siteDec 30 19:25
schestowitz[19:14] <schestowitz> althougn a projetc can break newsDec 30 19:25
schestowitz[19:14] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: BSA Smears Sri Lanka’s Government for Moving to Free/Open Source Software http://goo.gl/as314 #bsaDec 30 19:25
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schestowitz[19:15] <schestowitz> the project ties together a lot of evidenceDec 30 19:25
schestowitz[19:15] <schestowitz> and backs known issues, such as what the BSA really doesDec 30 19:25
schestowitz[19:15] <schestowitz> Or Gates FoundationDec 30 19:25
schestowitz[19:15] <schestowitz> The research in turn gets used for all sorts of purposes and we also make calls for boycott based on the analysisDec 30 19:25
schestowitz[19:15] <schestowitz> But I wouldn't call it a blog or news site at this stageDec 30 19:25
schestowitz[19:19] <schestowitz> testDec 30 19:25
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schestowitz[19:19] <_Goblin> Hi Roy....new ISP......Dec 30 19:25
schestowitz[19:20] <_Goblin> they are just sorted my speeds up to max at the momentDec 30 19:25
schestowitz[19:20] <_Goblin> *sortingDec 30 19:25
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_Goblin:)Dec 30 19:26
schestowitzalmost doneDec 30 19:26
schestowitzand thisDec 30 19:26
schestowitz[19:22] <schestowitz> I'll return to forums soon. Worked hard on Cablegate recently. New:Dec 30 19:26
schestowitz[19:22] <schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2011/12/30/ibm-and-bsa-in-sri-lanka/ Cablegate: BSA Smears Sri Lanka’s Government for Moving to Free/Open Source SoftwareDec 30 19:26
schestowitz[19:22] <schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2011/12/30/cables-from-south-africa/ Cablegate: Microsoft’s Friends at Frost and Sullivan Bash South Africa’s Migration to Free SoftwareDec 30 19:26
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schestowitz[19:22] <schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2011/12/30/peru-and-foss-cables/ Cablegate: Peru’s Migration to Free/Open Source SoftwareDec 30 19:26
schestowitz[19:22] <schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2011/12/30/malaysia-propaganda/ Cablegate: Business Software Alliance (BSA) Pretends to Speak for Open Source, MPA Creates Imaginary Links to CrimeDec 30 19:26
schestowitz[19:22] <schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2011/12/30/lobbying-in-lithuania/ Cablegate: Lithuania ‘Watched’ for Not Accepting Monopoly/’IP’ Regime From West, Government Adoption of Free Software NotedDec 30 19:26
schestowitz[19:22] <schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2011/12/30/tripoli-on-unesco/ Cablegate: UNESCO Was Pro-Free Software Before Gates and Microsoft InterventionDec 30 19:26
schestowitz[19:22] <schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2011/12/29/italy-cable/ Cablegate: Iraq Rebuilt With Free/Open Source SoftwareDec 30 19:26
schestowitz[19:22] <schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2011/12/29/criminalizing-users/ Cablegate: Microsoft Lobbies to Illegalise Backups and Make Copyright Violation a “Crime”Dec 30 19:26
schestowitz[19:22] <schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2011/12/29/diplomatic-cable-re-ibm/ Cablegate: State Governments in India Prefer Open Source CodeDec 30 19:26
schestowitz[19:22] <schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2011/12/29/hollywood-and-a-microsoft-front/ Cablegate: With Microsoft Front Group Taking on Indonesia, a Call for Open Source Software AdoptionDec 30 19:26
schestowitz[19:22] <schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2011/12/29/microsoft-vs-indonesian-freedom/ Cablegate: Microsoft Attacks Free/Open Source Software in Indonesian Government With Secret a 80% Discount, Breaks 1999 Monopolies LawDec 30 19:26
schestowitz[19:22] <schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2011/12/29/dependence-on-proprietary-systems/ Cablegate: Examples of Indonesia Developing Free/Open Source SoftwareDec 30 19:26
schestowitzGood thing I have 4 IP addresses that sit on different freenode hostsDec 30 19:26
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schestowitz_Goblin: do you want to record today? I do :-)Dec 30 19:27
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_Goblinschestowitz: My Transfer rates are fluctuating madly whilst they work on my new line....Dec 30 19:29
_GoblinI'm going from 4mb to 1mb then to dial up speed....Dec 30 19:29
schestowitzdoes that affect calls?Dec 30 19:29
_GoblinHavent tried the phone lineDec 30 19:30
_Goblinits literally come on around 1400Dec 30 19:30
schestowitzOh, and I was thinking, let's make a new banner for season 2 (2012)Dec 30 19:30
_GoblindefoDec 30 19:30
schestowitzand pretend that seasons are now years?Dec 30 19:30
schestowitzeven though 1 is 2010-11Dec 30 19:30
schestowitzwhat should the banner be like?Dec 30 19:30
schestowitzLO used to change their banners oftenDec 30 19:30
schestowitzlet's use different mugs, tooDec 30 19:31
_GoblinI think we (or I) need some new photosDec 30 19:31
_GoblinlolDec 30 19:31
_Goblinyou typed firstDec 30 19:31
_Goblingreat minds think alikeDec 30 19:31
schestowitzyeah, how about the one with pirate hat?Dec 30 19:31
_GoblinI have a better one...Dec 30 19:31
_Goblina pirate bandannaDec 30 19:31
schestowitzcan be modified a bitDec 30 19:31
schestowitzcan you email it to me? I can make a banner now, too much free timeDec 30 19:31
schestowitzI am nearluy done with cablegate too now (letter T now)Dec 30 19:32
_Goblinyeah.....I'll send it in a bit.....Dec 30 19:32
_Goblinmulti-tasking at moment....Dec 30 19:33
schestowitzcheersDec 30 19:33
_Goblinsetting up the PS3 Move....sorting out Sky and also having a conversation with a person who wants to be a guest on the first show...Dec 30 19:33
_Goblinits one of the AROS devsDec 30 19:33
schestowitzCool!Dec 30 19:34
_GoblinCalled Timothy.....ironically enoughDec 30 19:35
schestowitzI'll spend more time on the new banner - now that it's growing more popularDec 30 19:35
_GoblinAROS is looking pretty special lately.....Dec 30 19:35
_Goblinseemless UAE integration to the AROS desktop is almost done....no kickstart required.Dec 30 19:35
schestowitzSomething like Techbytes 2.0 for coolness factorDec 30 19:35
_Goblinlike it!Dec 30 19:36
schestowitzWe ought to have a redone intro tooDec 30 19:38
schestowitzlike 10-15 secondsDec 30 19:38
schestowitzjust to give a feeling of 'new'Dec 30 19:38
_GoblinI'll see if I can work something out...remember my concept intro for Byte.me?  what about that?Dec 30 19:39
schestowitzThe one we use now has some background noise, we can have it enhanced and then bass-boost it and make it mono, not stereoDec 30 19:39
_GoblinI mean something similarDec 30 19:39
schestowitzand same sampling rate as the showDec 30 19:39
schestowitzyeah, when does the ep of bye.me come out?Dec 30 19:39
schestowitzit was already done in a wayDec 30 19:39
_Goblinwhen I finally get around to it....Dec 30 19:40
_Goblinit was a case though very little time and TB takes priority....I couldn't do bothDec 30 19:40
_Goblinmaybe newyear.Dec 30 19:40
schestowitzprurigro listen to the shows too, maybe he'll have suggestionsDec 30 19:40
schestowitz_Goblin: have you send a photo yet? I'm bored...Dec 30 19:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] It's not over till it's over. We're still here, and stuff's still running. It'll get better!Dec 30 19:41
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schestowitzwe'll let Rusty know about this soon, I guess :-) he must have forgottenDec 30 19:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is lxoliva from identi.ca with 109 dents!Dec 30 19:46
schestowitzToday we rode the bikes for 4 hours, on Sunday it might be sunny and pleasant enough for a whole day out, based on the forecast as of now http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2643123Dec 30 19:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @suhaib Thanks everyone for a bit more thanks to the hypnotoadDec 30 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels nowDec 30 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels nowDec 30 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] sickDec 30 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] next up... lawDec 30 20:01
DaemonFCFirefox 11 mobile will drop the multi process modelDec 30 20:02
DaemonFCGo back to everything in one processDec 30 20:02
schestowitzthreading you mean?Dec 30 20:04
schestowitzor lots of processes for each tab... yuck!Dec 30 20:04
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FFII/statuses/152757333158670337Dec 30 20:05
TechrightsBot-tr@FFII: "Asperger's disorder" = pc expression 4 intelligent guyDec 30 20:05
schestowitzlolDec 30 20:05
DaemonFCMulti process is what it does nowDec 30 20:05
DaemonFCThey want to get rid of thatDec 30 20:05
DaemonFCAnd just give gecko its own threadDec 30 20:06
MinceRwhy?Dec 30 20:06
MinceRi thought they were going to implement multiprocess even in the desktop versionDec 30 20:06
schestowitzSometimes when people face something they are not used to they try to label it autism or AspergerDec 30 20:07
schestowitzSo much easier to just make a de facto diagnosis on the spot rather than confront issues, esp. when it comes to the NetDec 30 20:07
schestowitzI remember when Novell shills (IIRC Novell IP addresses) tried to do this to meDec 30 20:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Yes, they seem to be a little off. I'm working on them and search right now.Dec 30 20:08
schestowitzDaemonFC: did you shrink diagnose your homosexuality as a disorder? :-)Dec 30 20:08
schestowitzMinceR is a rabid hater... he must have rabies :-)Dec 30 20:08
DaemonFCNoDec 30 20:08
MinceRno, i don't hate rabidDec 30 20:09
schestowitzI think it used to be diagnosed this wayDec 30 20:09
DaemonFCThe APA got rid of that decades goDec 30 20:09
schestowitzI think politicians use similar smear campaignsDec 30 20:09
schestowitzTrying to 'diagnose' their opponentsDec 30 20:09
schestowitz"Let me tell you about you..."Dec 30 20:10
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/zoobab/status/152399507664019457Dec 30 20:10
TechrightsBot-tr@zoobab: UK: The Patent for an engineer with the hardware and software skills necessary to build and operate a virtual BTS http://t.co/2ULgak9JDec 30 20:10
TechrightsBot-tr@: Dec 30 20:10
schestowitzi can haz patents?Dec 30 20:10
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FFII/statuses/152756084799578113Dec 30 20:11
TechrightsBot-tr@FFII: "acknowledged... to being diagnosed with Asperger’s Disorder"... http://t.co/PyUSIV6rDec 30 20:11
TechrightsBot-tr@: Dec 30 20:11
schestowitzSome say the same about GatesDec 30 20:11
schestowitzAnd RMSDec 30 20:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] yupDec 30 20:11
schestowitzNot sure how people diagnose those thingsDec 30 20:11
schestowitzSeems more like smears in both casesDec 30 20:11
DaemonFCThe US had a brief moment of lucidity in certain states in the late 1970sDec 30 20:12
schestowitzI heard from someone gay that the whole attitude towards gays changed when they stopped treating it like a medical conditionDec 30 20:12
schestowitzhe says he was born into this...Dec 30 20:12
DaemonFCThe teenagers and 20 somethings fighting for freedom from repression turned around and *became* the systemDec 30 20:13
DaemonFC:-) Dec 30 20:13
schestowitzSociety's attitude's changed a lot towards it in the 90s and last decade too... when I was younger I was less tolerant of the gay, now it's kind of mainstream to be all cool about it, not the opposite, unless you're in the religious cultsDec 30 20:13
DaemonFCI don't see why they careDec 30 20:14
DaemonFCProbably same reason hitler didDec 30 20:14
schestowitzI think that people like Boy Gorge are enough to make young lads afraid of gaysDec 30 20:14
DaemonFCWe don't reproduce and make more of themDec 30 20:14
schestowitzwell, Hitler viewed them as not worthy of lifeDec 30 20:14
schestowitzEven if their parents had  "German blood" -- whatever that meansDec 30 20:15
iophkhttp://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/12/adrian-lamo-bradley-manningDec 30 20:15
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schestowitzDaemonFC: to girls it can be a status symbolDec 30 20:15
schestowitzof fertility/potencyDec 30 20:15
DaemonFCYeah, 50,000 murdered gays, silenceDec 30 20:15
schestowitzor motherhood, to guys it doesn\'t add muchDec 30 20:16
schestowitzAlimony maybeDec 30 20:16
DaemonFCHundreds of thousands of gypsies, not a wordDec 30 20:16
DaemonFCJews...Dec 30 20:16
DaemonFCTo this dayDec 30 20:16
schestowitzI need to learn to pretend better to want to have kidsDec 30 20:16
DaemonFCBitch bitch bitchDec 30 20:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Nintendo, #Sony back off of #SOPA support - http://bit.ly/sG5E3s important: this shows kicking up a fuss worksDec 30 20:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nintendo, Sony back off of SOPA support | Electronista .::. Size~: 62.6 KBDec 30 20:16
schestowitzDaemonFC: the one with capital HDec 30 20:16
schestowitzI had a chat with a friend about it todayDec 30 20:16
schestowitzAnd words that are used to mean "anyone but us"Dec 30 20:17
schestowitzRacism is assumed in the media to only come from white malesDec 30 20:17
schestowitzBut never directed against themDec 30 20:17
DaemonFCOf course it was horribleDec 30 20:17
schestowitzAnd "white guilt" is used to paralyse our bahaviourDec 30 20:17
schestowitz*behaviourDec 30 20:17
iophkHow many have left GoDaddy as of today, the 29th?Dec 30 20:17
DaemonFCBut the Jews have hijacked the holocaustDec 30 20:17
schestowitzAlso, this friend had some nasty rumour spread about himDec 30 20:17
DaemonFCMade it all about themDec 30 20:17
schestowitzOr some idiot saying he was trying to have kids when in fact the opposite is trueDec 30 20:18
schestowitzAnd many with kids are, IMHO, trying to get their peers equally shackled by promoting the same mentality and lifestyle... shaming others into itDec 30 20:18
schestowitziophk: no idea, but on day one they lost a lot and maybe 100k by nowDec 30 20:18
schestowitzand they got bad press, which is a long-term woundDec 30 20:19
schestowitzIIRc, they lost 27k the first dayDec 30 20:19
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schestowitzjust before ChristmasDec 30 20:19
iophkhttp://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-57349913-281/godaddy-bows-to-boycott-now-opposes-sopa-copyright-bill/Dec 30 20:19
iophk"GoDaddy's prior support for SOPA, which was reversed. GoDaddy opposes SOPA"Dec 30 20:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GoDaddy bows to boycott, now 'opposes' SOPA copyright bill | Privacy Inc. - CNET News .::. Size~: 73.47 KBDec 30 20:19
schestowitz[20:17] <DaemonFC> But the Jews have hijacked the holocaustDec 30 20:19
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schestowitzThere are many holocaustsDec 30 20:20
schestowitzThere are also faminesDec 30 20:20
DaemonFCAnd chat misbehavedDec 30 20:20
schestowitzZionism needs to milk the HolocaustDec 30 20:20
DaemonFCHad to put it downDec 30 20:20
DaemonFC:-) Dec 30 20:20
schestowitzPoltiicians love it tooDec 30 20:20
iophkhttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/go-daddy-really-and-truly-opposes-sopa-now/1813Dec 30 20:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Go Daddy really and truly opposes SOPA now | ZDNet .::. Size~: 129.91 KBDec 30 20:20
MinceRxchat? :>Dec 30 20:21
schestowitzThey exploit religious and group intolerance for their land expansion and stuff... like most tyrants have always doneDec 30 20:21
DaemonFCSomewhere there's an afterlife for all the applications you force quitDec 30 20:21
schestowitziophk: too lateDec 30 20:21
schestowitzIMHODec 30 20:21
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DaemonFCThe bloatzilla processesDec 30 20:21
iophk"We don’t know how many customers left Go Daddy"Dec 30 20:21
iophkyes, too lateDec 30 20:21
DaemonFCMillions of themDec 30 20:21
iophkIt only makes sense to leave with all the discounts that were offered.  Better UI and cheaper prices.Dec 30 20:22
schestowitzThey regret their policy, they are not apologising for itDec 30 20:22
DaemonFCI've heard estimates of 100,000 domains they lost so farDec 30 20:22
schestowitzYeahDec 30 20:22
schestowitzmy calculation tooDec 30 20:22
schestowitzAfter xmas they had lost like 70kDec 30 20:22
schestowitzmany of those are hosting tooDec 30 20:22
DaemonFCServes them rightDec 30 20:22
schestowitzdomain+hosting+servicesDec 30 20:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Reddit brouhaha forces Paul Ryan to point out that he isn’t sponsoring #SOPA - http://tnw.co/uUCeKN another important sign of shiftsDec 30 20:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Paul Ryan: I'm Hardly A SOPA Sponsor .::. Size~: 94.66 KBDec 30 20:23
schestowitzwe need the same against ACTA and Unitary PatentDec 30 20:23
DaemonFCIts not that being evil and working against the majority usually get noticedDec 30 20:23
schestowitz_Goblin: how's the photo coming along, I want to make a new banner today... if possibleDec 30 20:24
DaemonFCThey were just stupid and arrogantDec 30 20:24
schestowitzThey were godaddyDec 30 20:24
DaemonFCShouting their sopa supportDec 30 20:24
schestowitzthey were pardon\Dec 30 20:24
schestowitz!google parson assholeDec 30 20:24
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - GoDaddy CEO Bob Parson's Elephant In the Room | The Butcher Blog | http://thebutcherblog.com/the-elephant-in-the-room/Dec 30 20:24
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - GoDaddy.com CEO Bob Parsons under fire for Zimbabwe elephant ... | http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/outposts/2011/03/godaddycom-ceo-bob-parsons-elephant-hunting-video-zimbabwe.htmlDec 30 20:24
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Urban Dictionary: parson | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php%3Fterm%3DparsonDec 30 20:24
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Eric Jerk Parson | Facebook | http://www.facebook.com/OMG.U.STFUDec 30 20:24
DaemonFCThat much of a loss won't put them out of businessDec 30 20:25
schestowitzhttp://www.urbandictionary.com/add.php?word=define.php%3Fterm%3DparsonDec 30 20:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Urban Dictionary: Add a definition .::. Size~: 11.9 KBDec 30 20:25
DaemonFCIt will hurt thoughDec 30 20:25
schestowitzThat's the wrong way to frame itDec 30 20:25
schestowitzIt's like when we called for Apple boycott and some clowns said Apple won't hurtDec 30 20:26
schestowitzBut Apple's market cap is like a third of a trillionDec 30 20:26
schestowitzIf you can hurt it just a bit, that can mean a lotDec 30 20:26
schestowitzNovell was worth billions tooDec 30 20:26
DaemonFCOf Mexican pesos maybeDec 30 20:27
schestowitzBN must have cost them millions by discouraging some IT folks from buying Novell and SUSE, and I know some who were influenced by BN while making purchasesDec 30 20:27
DaemonFC:-) Dec 30 20:27
schestowitzno, Novell was worth like 3 billion I think... or a lot more at one stageDec 30 20:27
DaemonFCNow I meanDec 30 20:27
schestowitzMS SLE* never took offDec 30 20:27
schestowitzThey got BMW, Walmart and other MS buddiesDec 30 20:27
schestowitzBMW chose it cause it's GermanDec 30 20:28
DaemonFCNobody in their right mind wants Linux from MicrosoftDec 30 20:28
DaemonFCBbiabDec 30 20:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] see that Cory speech? you can't effectively limit any freedoms by copyright in the way that "they" want without taking away basic freedoms.Dec 30 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] CEO Of Cloud Firm Red Hat Expects To Boost Staff 24% http://goo.gl/eHe6s #redhat #gnu #linux #expansionDec 30 20:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat's (RHT) Jim Whitehurst Says Cloud Computing Aids Companies But May Slow Job Growth - Investors.com .::. Size~: 179.52 KBDec 30 20:31
iophkIt's not been German for a long time.  It was sold long ago.Dec 30 20:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Enea Inks Binding Deal To Sell Nordic Consulting Business http://goo.gl/FrPL1 #linuxDec 30 20:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Enea Inks Binding Deal To Sell Nordic Consulting Business - Quick Facts .::. Size~: 71.14 KBDec 30 20:33
schestowitzBMW used it before that I thinkDec 30 20:33
iophkNovell bought Suse in 2003 or so.Dec 30 20:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] LibreOffice Brasil: Mega entrevista de Natal do #LibreOffice - #floss http://goo.gl/0cpAj vi@paulovilelaDec 30 20:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LibreOffice Brasil: Mega entrevista de Natal do LibreOffice .::. Size~: 70.99 KBDec 30 20:35
schestowitzyes, I was gonna do some checks on when BMW started using SUSEDec 30 20:35
schestowitzWal-mart had used Red HatDec 30 20:35
schestowitzThen its manager become MS COODec 30 20:35
schestowitzCoupDec 30 20:35
schestowitzand they chose MS Linux shortly after thatDec 30 20:35
schestowitz s/become/became/Dec 30 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Occupy Wall Street takes the fight to the Internet with its own Facebook clone http://goo.gl/QFBZy #ows #diasporaDec 30 20:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Top 10 Happenings Of Indian Open Source World http://ur1.ca/73r4cDec 30 20:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Top 10 Happenings Of Indian Open Source World In 2011! .::. Size~: 238.83 KBDec 30 20:40
iophkgtgDec 30 20:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] SOPA is the end of us, say bloggers (Politico): http://politi.co/sKeqSsDec 30 20:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SOPA is the end of us, say bloggers - Tim Mak - POLITICO.com .::. Size~: 95.94 KBDec 30 20:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Yeah, but we're a commercial company. Maybe something like Reddit Gold? http://identi.ca/url/63480212Dec 30 20:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: reddit.com: help .::. Size~: 31.6 KBDec 30 20:50
scientesschestowitz, wow cablegate even covers free software stuffDec 30 20:53
scientesis that considered highly confidential stuff?Dec 30 20:54
scientesschestowitz, VW added the CAN code to the kernelDec 30 20:54
scientes(Controller area network)Dec 30 20:55
schestowitzscientes: let me know if you find more in theseDec 30 20:55
scientesand on apple, iPad hardware only costs $200Dec 30 20:55
schestowitzmaybe less IIRCDec 30 20:56
scienteswe have to preempt their hypeDec 30 20:57
scientesas people buying this stuff are generally computer illeterateDec 30 20:57
schestowitzInfoQ (in f*ck you) is doing its usual MS boosting http://www.infoq.com/news/2011/12/net_oss_2011Dec 30 20:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: InfoQ: 2011 in Review: Highlights of .NET OSS Projects .::. Size~: 71.15 KBDec 30 20:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] IT experts urge worldwide governments to promote use of free software Close http://goo.gl/8fHws #government #egov #freedomDec 30 20:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Friday http://ur1.ca/73ricDec 30 20:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] How we celebrated things | #SHTF School - #preppers #selco http://goo.gl/8ePl4Dec 30 20:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: IT experts urge worldwide governments to promote use of free software - The Economic Times .::. Size~: 132.45 KBDec 30 20:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Security advisories for Friday [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 7.65 KBDec 30 20:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How we celebrated things | SHTF School .::. Size~: 42.31 KBDec 30 20:58
schestowitzscientes: or lacking social securitiesDec 30 20:58
scienteswhat do you mean by that?Dec 30 20:59
schestowitzso buying brands that are allegedly selling statusDec 30 20:59
scientesahh, yesDec 30 20:59
schestowitz!google steve jobs impotence sterile lisaDec 30 20:59
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - What killed Steve Jobs? | Pharyngula | http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/10/15/what-killed-steve-jobs/Dec 30 20:59
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - History of Computer Science | http://www.softpanorama.org/History/index.shtmlDec 30 20:59
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Jellyfish toxin could cure male impotency - IOL SciTech | IOL.co.za | http://www.iol.co.za/scitech/technology/jellyfish-toxin-could-cure-male-impotency-1.217707Dec 30 20:59
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - The American Scholar: Love on Campus - William Deresiewicz | http://theamericanscholar.org/love-on-campus/Dec 30 20:59
scientesI think much more it is people who don't know much about computers and are trying to hitch their horse to the largest thing they can findDec 30 20:59
schestowitz!google steve jobs says sterile under oathDec 30 21:00
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - A crossword puzzle tribute to Steve Jobs « miranda celeste | http://mirandaceleste.net/2011/10/28/a-crossword-puzzle-tribute-to-steve-jobs/Dec 30 21:00
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Remembering Jack Layton and Steve Jobs | http://www.quebecoislibre.org/11/111115-11.htmlDec 30 21:00
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - World mourns, pays tribute to Steve Jobs - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DmfL4JiexjMUDec 30 21:00
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - The Book of Cletis: Not My Kind Of People | http://thebookofcletis.blogspot.com/2011/11/not-my-kind-of-people.htmlDec 30 21:00
scientesgoing with the flowDec 30 21:00
scientes(of their perception), not actualityDec 30 21:00
scienteswhich is towards free software which has a much smaller marketing budgetDec 30 21:00
scientesI was brainstorming a map of computer world the other nightDec 30 21:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Versões — Programa de Governo Eletrônico Brasileiro - Sítio Oficial - #floss #egov #br http://goo.gl/E7lcSDec 30 21:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Versões             —                  Programa de Governo Eletrônico Brasileiro - Sítio Oficial .::. Size~: 18.14 KBDec 30 21:01
schestowitzguess who pays for the marketing?Dec 30 21:02
schestowitzit's 25% of the cost of all products on aevrage, much more in Apple's caseDec 30 21:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I have seen some lists posted where 2011 is claimed to be one where we lost IT leaders. How about a year when we lost tech tyrants too?Dec 30 21:03
scientesit had two pillars---the IBM/Microsoft monopoly continium on one side, Academia with AT&T through GNU on the other, and two bridges, incomplete--AJAX from MS side (http://www.paulgraham.com/microsoft.html), and GPL + common carrier internet from the other sideDec 30 21:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Paul Graham .::. Size~: 8.03 KBDec 30 21:03
scientesApple and Google are trolls under this in-construction bridge, hanging misleading faux-angels along the wayDec 30 21:03
scientesApple the troll of the consumer goods/IBM-MS side, and Google academia/big-brother sideDec 30 21:05
schestowitzAppletrollDec 30 21:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Lubuntu is a Nice Clean Desktop http://ur1.ca/73rvx #lxdeDec 30 21:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lubuntu is a Nice Clean Desktop — Low Cost Computing .::. Size~: 30.51 KBDec 30 21:16
scientesapple security is crap---its _exactly_ what MS has been pushing for years, but somehow they get away with itDec 30 21:16
scientesmeaning secure against the user instead (and in absense) of for the userDec 30 21:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Xubuntu 11.10 with Xfce4 Desktop http://ur1.ca/73rx8 #xfceDec 30 21:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Xubuntu 11.10 with Xfce4 Desktop — Low Cost Computing .::. Size~: 35.63 KBDec 30 21:18
scientesthe only difference is perhaps that they have been forced to both be a little more compatible with *nix and keep importing free software to keep themselves releventDec 30 21:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Chakra and #Pinguy raves http://ur1.ca/73ryr #linuxDec 30 21:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Chakra and Pinguy OS find spots in the top 25 fastest growing projects | Ubuntu Manual .::. Size~: 47.37 KBDec 30 21:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] TechSource’s Top 10 Linux Distributions of 2011 http://ur1.ca/73s09 #gnu #linuxDec 30 21:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TechSource’s Top 10 Linux Distributions of 2011 | TechSource .::. Size~: 102.13 KBDec 30 21:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Linux top 10 hit parade http://goo.gl/PXQWa #gnu #linuxDec 30 21:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Linux top 10 hit parade « Software « MyBroadband Tech and IT News .::. Size~: 46.99 KBDec 30 21:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cuba: Progress with GNU/Linux http://goo.gl/aWQmU "2009-02-24 20% of PCs run GNU/Linux – Goal is 50% within 5 years"Dec 30 21:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu Razor-qt Remix Screenshot Tour http://ur1.ca/73s6v #qtDec 30 21:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cuba: Progress with GNU/Linux at  Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 34 KBDec 30 21:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu Razor-qt Remix Screenshot Tour - Softpedia .::. Size~: 55.2 KBDec 30 21:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Siri for !Android hits the market, jokes on Apple http://ping.fm/EmirrDec 30 21:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Siri for Android hits the market, jokes on Apple | Android Community .::. Size~: 53.08 KBDec 30 21:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] This is a purposeless rant, will alienate users http://ur1.ca/73ifz #bodhilinuxDec 30 21:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Lamar Smith Out Of Touch With The Internet: Still Thinks It's Just Google That Opposes #SOPA http://goo.gl/GuWF4Dec 30 21:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Thoughts on Technology: Dear Open Source Free Loaders .::. Size~: 89.41 KBDec 30 21:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lamar Smith Out Of Touch With The Internet: Still Thinks It's Just Google That Opposes SOPA | Techdirt .::. Size~: 112.62 KBDec 30 21:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I'll make considerable efforts to release and analyse all #cablegate material. Not fair that Manning and Assange arrested for it.Dec 30 21:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Yeah, I just posted the headline as isDec 30 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'll tell you an interesting thing about Siri though: no matter how clearly you say the word Hackintosh, it always hears Macintosh :)Dec 30 21:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Facebook shuts down EventPress development. http://goo.gl/0usSk OK, now shut down #FacebookDec 30 21:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Apocalypse City by Colin Thubron | The New York Review of #Books http://goo.gl/8Dpv3Dec 30 21:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Facebook shuts down EventPress development. .::. Size~: 23.76 KBDec 30 21:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apocalypse City by Colin Thubron | The New York Review of Books .::. Size~: 45.08 KBDec 30 21:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Analysis of #Facebook attacks - http://goo.gl/FPLVODec 30 21:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GNOME 3.3.3 Heats Things Up For GNOME 3.4 http://ur1.ca/728vk #gnu #linuxDec 30 21:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Analysis of Facebook attacks .::. Size~: 36.06 KBDec 30 21:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] GNOME 3.3.3 Heats Things Up For GNOME 3.4 .::. Size~: 17.72 KBDec 30 21:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Oh, really? That's interesting. Can you send me IP addresses by email? Also, username/password and I'll register by hand. evan@status.netDec 30 22:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] We've had to ban thousands of users due to some serious attacks.Dec 30 22:01
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1113514 "Unfortunately this review doesn't look at and include thoughts about both ends of the generations of users."Dec 30 22:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 12/29/2011 -- International dateline has now moved --- this year was strange indeed - YouTube - #xfiles http://ur1.ca/73svxDec 30 22:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: THE SYSTEM IS **DOWN** .::. Size~: 3.63 KBDec 30 22:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 12/29/2011 -- International dateline has now moved ---  this year was strange indeed       - YouTube .::. Size~: 143.87 KBDec 30 22:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Dang. Thought I had search working. Killed the server, though.Dec 30 22:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Our ~80M notice database seems to be overpowering Sphinx.Dec 30 22:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #CalculateLinux 11.12 released http://ur1.ca/73syxDec 30 22:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Calculate Linux 11.12 released - Planet Calculate .::. Size~: 24.24 KBDec 30 22:08
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scientesI forgot--that which completes the bridge is AGPLDec 30 22:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] And done! See http://identi.ca/url/63484487. Password as you sent.Dec 30 22:21
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 404 Not FoundDec 30 22:21
DaemonFCWell, that was$10 well spentDec 30 22:22
DaemonFCSighDec 30 22:22
DaemonFCCut to fit screen protector my assDec 30 22:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #India To Become Android Super Hub? http://ur1.ca/73tfaDec 30 22:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Year in Review: Desktop #Linux Developments http://ur1.ca/73tfdDec 30 22:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: India To Become Android Super Hub? | Muktware .::. Size~: 33.3 KBDec 30 22:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Year in Review: Desktop Linux Developments in 2011 | The VAR Guy .::. Size~: 90.26 KBDec 30 22:23
schestowitzThis show is decent, but their sounds quality is worse than ours http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZPWkIss5bc&feature=digest_monDec 30 22:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The League of Reason Presents... Christmas       - YouTube .::. Size~: 130.66 KBDec 30 22:25
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAjEiWchLg4&feature=digest_monDec 30 22:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Obama's Holiday Failures       - YouTube .::. Size~: 133.11 KBDec 30 22:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Goodbye, Nokia #Lumia 800: £400 and one month on, it didn't work out | Technology | guardian.co.uk - #msnokia http://goo.gl/EgwptDec 30 22:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Goodbye, Nokia Lumia 800: £400 and one month on, it didn't work out | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 292.14 KBDec 30 22:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Candidates Starting To Turn #SOPA Into A Campaign Issue: Karen Kwiatkowski Goes After Bob Goodlatte - http://bit.ly/s8XJqK NB logic hereDec 30 22:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Candidates Starting To Turn SOPA Into A Campaign Issue: Karen Kwiatkowski Goes After Bob Goodlatte | Techdirt .::. Size~: 42.14 KBDec 30 22:31
DaemonFC   Ron Paul was right about sopaDec 30 22:32
DaemonFCAt least he nailed somethingDec 30 22:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Very public #health - http://bit.ly/tO7EtP "to open up and share as much health information as possible" #opendata #privacyDec 30 22:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Very public health «  BuzzMachine .::. Size~: 12.64 KBDec 30 22:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] CyanogenMod 7 For Samsung Epic 4G Becomes Official http://ping.fm/8NfrKDec 30 22:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Apple sends ‘take down’ notices to cracked iOS apps creator AppTrackr http://ping.fm/1z8lHDec 30 22:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CyanogenMod 7 For Samsung Epic 4G Becomes Official | xda-developers .::. Size~: 22.49 KBDec 30 22:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple sends ‘take down’ notices to cracked iOS apps creator AppTrackr  |  9to5Mac | Apple Intelligence .::. Size~: 53.87 KBDec 30 22:38
*XFaCE gives voice to amarsh04Dec 30 22:40
*XFaCE gives voice to scientesDec 30 22:40
*XFaCE gives voice to DaemonFCDec 30 22:40
*XFaCE gives voice to abeNd-org1Dec 30 22:40
*XFaCE gives channel operator status to amarsh04Dec 30 22:40
*XFaCE gives voice to olorin_Dec 30 22:41
*XFaCE gives voice to riddic-ArmBox2Dec 30 22:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I really hope this succeeds » Sony Sued For Right to Sue - Lawsuit Targets Sony's Forced Arbitration Clause http://ping.fm/xxTd8Dec 30 22:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sony Sued For Right to Sue - Lawsuit Targets Sony's Forced Arbitration Clause | DSLReports.com, ISP Information .::. Size~: 18.64 KBDec 30 22:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 30/12/2011: Cuba Progresses With GNU/Linux, Red Hat Expects Staff Boost of 24% http://goo.gl/Ysfg7 #techrightsDec 30 22:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 30/12/2011: Cuba Progresses With GNU/Linux, Red Hat Expects Staff Boost of 24% | Techrights .::. Size~: 121.79 KBDec 30 22:45
DaemonFCFlash on android is horridDec 30 22:47
schestowitzhttp://cablegatesearch.net/cable.php?id=07ANKARA1130&q=open-source%20softwareDec 30 22:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cable reference id: #07ANKARA1130 .::. Size~: 23.94 KBDec 30 22:47
schestowitz"The Wisconsin Project Team provided a presentation on their open source database to Government of Turkey (GOT"Dec 30 22:47
schestowitzDaemonFC: that's why it's called TrashDec 30 22:47
DaemonFCIt plays YouTube, that's about itDec 30 22:47
schestowitzyoutube works with webmDec 30 22:47
DaemonFCNot most of itDec 30 22:47
schestowitzNot all browsers do, thoughDec 30 22:47
DaemonFCAnd its still betaDec 30 22:47
DaemonFCThe ones worth mentioning doDec 30 22:48
DaemonFCEven Internet Destroyer supports webm with a plug inDec 30 22:52
DaemonFCMincer might be amused that bloatzilla firechrome managed to crash android on me earlierDec 30 22:54
DaemonFCIt takes such a toll on the system that rendering a page makes your music skipDec 30 22:55
MinceRwhy not use the browser that ships with android? crashes too often? :>Dec 30 22:55
DaemonFCNoDec 30 22:56
DaemonFCStable enough, doesn't peg the CPUDec 30 22:56
MinceRor just fails to block ads properly?Dec 30 22:56
DaemonFCNo a blockDec 30 22:56
DaemonFCAd blockDec 30 22:56
DaemonFCOpera mobile is light and fast and has the content blockerDec 30 22:57
DaemonFCGuess that's my browserDec 30 22:57
MinceRand crashes only occasionallyDec 30 22:57
DaemonFCUntil real chrome makes its way inDec 30 22:58
DaemonFCMobile bloatzilla is garbageDec 30 22:58
MinceRwhat's the problem with the not "real" chrome?Dec 30 22:59
DaemonFCYou can tell its a half assed port of a half assed desktop browserDec 30 22:59
DaemonFCNot as bad as mobile bloatzila thoughDec 30 23:00
DaemonFC:-) Dec 30 23:00
DaemonFCNow I know where boot to gecko came fromDec 30 23:01
DaemonFCNot being able to run anything else anywayDec 30 23:01
DaemonFCOpera is the only passable option right nowDec 30 23:02
DaemonFCUntil bloatzilla sorts out this messDec 30 23:02
DaemonFCIts sad that the only company taking mobile browsing seriously is operaDec 30 23:04
DaemonFCEveryone else considers a web browser an afterthought on an internet tabletDec 30 23:05
DaemonFCThose people that extended the windows 98 kernel to run firefox....wowDec 30 23:06
DaemonFCI wasn't aware there were that many win98 systems out there with a gig of ram :-) Dec 30 23:07
DaemonFCWindows 7 and Firefox are probably why you need 4 gb of ram just to boot, launch a browser, and have some memory leftDec 30 23:09
DaemonFCFirefox is the perfect windows applicationDec 30 23:09
MinceRit can make do with the tiny amount of RAM winblows leaves behind? :>Dec 30 23:10
DaemonFCNo, they both drive the ram industryDec 30 23:10
DaemonFCThey conspire to take all the memory you haveDec 30 23:11
DaemonFCIf one misses a few megs, the other will get itDec 30 23:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Anybody know where the #Lifetouch "access code" is so I can order my kid's grad photo online? Tomorrow's the last day & they're closed TODAYDec 30 23:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @jxself: NoScript isn't smart enough to parse license headers. See LibreJS instead: http://ur1.ca/73tv4Dec 30 23:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LibreJS: Block nonfree nontrivial JavaScript .::. Size~: 5.18 KBDec 30 23:16
schestowitzDaemonFC: ramzillaDec 30 23:18
DaemonFCAll the ad blocker for sort of chrome in the market are filter proxiesDec 30 23:18
DaemonFCOne guy even ported privoxyDec 30 23:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Solve a coding puzzle and @EFF gets a $5 donation! http://fightsopa.org/ (Requires a @Gild sign-up) #SOPADec 30 23:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Coders unite against SOPA! .::. Size~: 18.85 KBDec 30 23:20
*schestowitz listens to japanese skaDec 30 23:25
*MinceR is watching TVDec 30 23:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @jxself NoScript isn't smart enough to parse license headers. See LibreJS instead: http://ur1.ca/73tv4Dec 30 23:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Domain Blocking Will Encourage Yet More Fraud and Scams - http://bit.ly/sZWrcP this *and* new TLDs: what a recipe for disaster #sopaDec 30 23:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LibreJS: Block nonfree nontrivial JavaScript .::. Size~: 5.18 KBDec 30 23:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Domain Blocking Will Encourage Yet More Fraud and Scams | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 29.06 KBDec 30 23:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] I just donated to #Wikipedia. Help keep it free! #keepitfree http://bit.ly/tDmpbIDec 30 23:28
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/ksnhlaw/status/152784901920403459Dec 30 23:33
TechrightsBot-tr@ksnhlaw: ksnh::jur blogging (in German): Examination of Software Inventions by European Patent Office http://t.co/pk5GMnzd #swpat #epo #patent #epaDec 30 23:33
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schestowitzzoobab: ^^Dec 30 23:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Cat needs a brush. Cat is angry. http://identi.ca/url/63488161Dec 30 23:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Android RC toy for under $25? Yes please! http://ur1.ca/73uxo #linuxDec 30 23:36
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting image/jpeg typeDec 30 23:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Android RC toy for under $25? Yes please!AndroidGuys .::. Size~: 40.44 KBDec 30 23:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Android 4.0 for Sony Tablet http://ur1.ca/73v0f #sony #linux #androidDec 30 23:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sony: Android 4.0 for Sony Tablet .::. Size~: 76.39 KBDec 30 23:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'm just trying !identicurse 0.8 - so wher eis the config file kept now? (reading help)Dec 30 23:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Android phone activations soar over Christmas weekend http://goo.gl/mDPab #linux #androidDec 30 23:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Android phone activations soar over Christmas weekend | Digg Topnews .::. Size~: 87.05 KBDec 30 23:50
schestowitz"Now, after the Reddit Go Daddy protest gathered steam; Wikipedia’s Jimmy Wales announced that he would be moving Wikipedia’s domain names from Go Daddy; and, last but not least, aggressive ads from competiting Internet domain registry and hosting companies such as Namecheap, Adelman has had a real change of heart"Dec 30 23:50
schestowitzouch!Dec 30 23:50
schestowitzhttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/go-daddy-really-and-truly-opposes-sopa-now/1813Dec 30 23:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Go Daddy really and truly opposes SOPA now | ZDNet .::. Size~: 145.47 KBDec 30 23:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Oh I think I see now - we'll see when I try to start !identicurse with different streams (I don't use public)Dec 30 23:51
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/87850686 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1114307 "That's sad given the fact #android isn't a true opensource project and isnt based on a #gnu/linux OS ..."Dec 30 23:54
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 30-Dec-11 23:44:26 UTC - Identi.ca: Android Was 2011's Open Source Story of the Year http://goo.gl/c6xs8 #android #linux #googleDec 30 23:54
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schestowitzOver xmas diaspora seems to have stopped email notifications. Is that universal and is it permanent? A shame really...Dec 30 23:57
schestowitzAndroid "A wolf in sheeps clothing." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1114307Dec 30 23:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] What was the problem? I think we might have registration turned off right now.Dec 30 23:58
schestowitz"but fun for legal hacking =)" "Richard Stallman is right. The open source advocates want to kill and destroy free software." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1114307Dec 30 23:58
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schestowitzhttps://www.linux.com/news/featured-blogs/196-zonker/524082-the-10-most-important-open-source-projects-of-2011Dec 30 23:58
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schestowitzThey don't try to kill Free software, they just try to exploit it by riding the wave and taking from it all the attention. Like fish around the shark's tail...Dec 30 23:59

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