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MinceRi didn't know real changes of heart come from the wallet :>Dec 31 00:00
schestowitzMinceR: go daddy, do daddyDec 31 00:00
schestowitzGo Deady :-)Dec 31 00:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Cannabis - Weed - Pot - #Marijuana - Kills #Cancer cells finds #UCLA research and others 31 00:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Go Daddy had just Gone Deady. So it pretends to be against SOPA. 180, says their bank account. #sopa #liar #godaddy #boycottDec 31 00:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Firefox 9 Is 30% Faster Than Firefox 8 | Install Firefox 9 On Ubuntu 11.10 and Earlier Releases #firefoxDec 31 00:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Old Reader’s Story: #Facebook Censorship #diaspora is betterDec 31 00:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] .. update :)Dec 31 00:11
schestowitz"Yep, but constantly pairing 'android' and 'opensource' is like misleading avertising. Google is good at it, anyway." 31 00:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] MovieLabs joined W3C - MovieLabs joined as a new W3C Member. 31 00:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Future of Privacy Forum joined W3C - Future of Privacy Forum joined as a new W3C Member. 31 00:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: My SOPA piece last month on some of the Canadian implications - All Your Internets Belong to US 31 00:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ mgeist: The Globe jumps into the SOPA debate w/2 great articles: @omarelakkad and @ivortossell ...Dec 31 00:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: Brazil and Ghana Want Free/Open Source Added in World Summit on the Information Society, US&AU Oppose 31 00:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cablegate: Brazil and Ghana Want Free/Open Source Added in World Summit on the Information Society, US and Australia Oppose | Techrights .::. Size~: 116.9 KBDec 31 00:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A United Nations cable shows the difference between developing countries (oppressed countries) and ruling nations, whic 31 00:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ A United Nations cable shows the difference between developing countries (oppressed countries) and ruling nations, whic http://ur1. ...Dec 31 00:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cablegate: Brazil and Ghana Want Free/Open Source Added in World Summit on the Information Society, US and Australia Oppose | Techrights .::. Size~: 116.9 KBDec 31 00:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] For once, I think the Straits Times is right - F grade for "cheechiu" aka chunsing #fb 31 00:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: Venezuela’s Move to Free/Open Source Software “Expected to Reduce the Demand for U.S. Software Products”Dec 31 00:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Venezuela’s Move to Free/Open Source Software “Expected to Reduce the Demand for U.S. Software Products” http://... 31 00:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Massive #solar storm 'will knock out radio signals and produce amazing Northern Lights' | Mail Online - #cme 31 00:53
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scientesDaemonF... doesn't appear to be in here, oddlyDec 31 00:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] President Chavez Smeared for Favouring Free/Open Source Software, Venezuela Added to Shame List #Cablegate #wlDec 31 01:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Venezuela gets the "PRIORITY WATCH LIST" treatment, meaning that it gets sanctioned or at least warned for not kneeling 31 01:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ Venezuela gets the "PRIORITY WATCH LIST" treatment, meaning that it gets sanctioned or at least warned for not kneeling http://ur1. ...Dec 31 01:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cablegate: President Chavez Smeared for Favouring Free/Open Source Software, Venezuela Added to Shame List | Techrights .::. Size~: 124.26 KBDec 31 01:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] "America's Nazi Future": Former Hitler Youth Whistleblower Warns Americans | Before It's News 31 01:10
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Former Hitler Youth Whistleblower Warns Of America's Nazi Future       - YouTube .::. Size~: 144.68 KBDec 31 01:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] This Chart From Robert Shiller Will Terrify Anyone Who Owns A Home In America - #usa #collapse 31 01:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Eurozone Crisis For Dummies - #eu #collapse 31 01:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: Microsoft Rushes Vietnam to Get Rid of Open Source, Including FOSS Policy 31 01:18
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cablegate: Microsoft Rushes Vietnam to Get Rid of Open Source, Including FOSS Policy | Techrights .::. Size~: 137.59 KBDec 31 01:18
cubezzzvietnam?Dec 31 01:22
cubezzzshouldn't that be Vienna?Dec 31 01:22
cubezzzoh the country :)Dec 31 01:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] » U.S. Court Upholds Telecom Immunity for #Surveillance of Americans - #fisa #usa #policestate 31 01:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Tanfoglio_ @rubenslabbinck @coreation is het zo'n groot cadeau, ja?Dec 31 01:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Joke net een airhostessDec 31 01:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @openOV @irail we zijn bezig aan onze 2.0 versie. Formaat wordt omgegooid. Suggesties?Dec 31 01:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @joristi is een playbook nog een goed idee op te kopen?Dec 31 01:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @4store In 1.1.3 I cannot use prefixes apparently. Full URIs work. QNames like schema:Library don't.Dec 31 01:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @4store and I just ran my first sparql query on rdf data of - this is amazing! ThanksDec 31 01:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @fs111 and then you ridicule me that I use a wm written in lisp. Great.Dec 31 01:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @4store EUCH. I feel stupid right now ;) Sorry for wasting your timeDec 31 01:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @4store tried compiling it but doesn't seem to compile with raptor3-dev. Now I've just apt-get'ed it :) http://ur1. ...Dec 31 01:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @4store if you index and perform a query like this: - it fails. http://ur1. ...Dec 31 01:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @netlash: Wat designer @xavez vindt van zijn werk bij Netlash-bSeen: .Dec 31 01:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Miel_vds #ff is still quite ugly over here...Dec 31 01:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Wiki overview for #wikileaks #cablegate has just been updated w/ many additions #techrightsDec 31 01:28
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cablegate - Techrights .::. Size~: 45.87 KBDec 31 01:28
schestowitz "Gnome 3 is great! I'm excited to see it on Debian or Trisquel... :)"Dec 31 01:28
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schestowitz "Open Source isn't against freedom. It just needs to be paired with open governance to protect it. Unfortunately Google does a masterful job in subverting Open Source / GPL to their own purposes in every way they can (Massive Saas, Closed android governance, open source Chromium with privacy destroying proprietary addons to make Chrome etc)."Dec 31 01:28
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schestowitz<quote>Dec 31 01:35
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schestowitz"On the eve of what has been dubbed "Dump Go Daddy Day," —Dec 31 01:35
schestowitzthe massive image hosting sites is responsible for an astonishing 28Dec 31 01:35
schestowitzterabytes of bandwidth and nearly 200 million page views per day — hasDec 31 01:35
schestowitzalready changed its registry entries, foreshadowing the potentialDec 31 01:35
schestowitznegative effect of a boycott set to begin ThursdayDec 31 01:35
schestowitzmorning. originally supported the Stop Online Piracy ActDec 31 01:35
schestowitz(SOPA) but quickly recanted its position when the call of a boycottDec 31 01:35
schestowitzcirculated. 'The outcry kind of forced our hand,' imgur founder andDec 31 01:35
schestowitzowner Alan Schaaf said. 'I'm against the SOPA act and imgur as aDec 31 01:35
schestowitzcompany is against it. We just feel it is terrible that GoDaddy.comDec 31 01:35
schestowitzwould support this legislation.'"Dec 31 01:35
schestowitz</quote>Dec 31 01:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] ♻ @schestowitz: Wiki overview for #wikileaks #cablegate has just been updated w/ many additions !linux !fsDec 31 01:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Wall Street Has a Vested Interest in Investor Ignorance easier to loot people w/o inside info. Like casinos pretty much.Dec 31 01:45
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schestowitz "Ubuntu IRC Council"Dec 31 03:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "TSA agent pulled her aside and said the cupcake frosting was "gel-like" enough to constitute a security risk." http:/... 31 03:01
schestowitzYet more bureaucracyDec 31 03:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #SOPA vs #OWS [IMG] 31 03:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Resolutions for 2012, lol. #fb 31 03:38
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DaemonFC"Microsoft is in the boat business. Bust Out Another Thousand" -meDec 31 05:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzag Identizens. Watching the BBC slapping itself on the back for another year of the news according to NATO coverage.Dec 31 05:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Really? Because there's a lot of good stuff to watch out there.Dec 31 05:53
DaemonFC 31 06:01
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DaemonFCMicrosoft tried to paint Nintendo and Sony as SOPA supportersDec 31 06:03
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DaemonFCeven though they were never on the list of supportersDec 31 06:03
DaemonFC(But Microsoft was)Dec 31 06:03
XFaCEDaemonFC: Microsoft defacing other companies? No way! [/sarcasm]Dec 31 06:04
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Obama's new tax on the poor: Internet gambling by states - .::. Size~: 87.56 KBDec 31 06:07
DaemonFC"The Obama Justice Department quietly issued a legal opinion – just before a long Christmas weekend – that allows states to set up nonsports Internet gambling. The opinion upends decades of contrary decisions, but its real effect will be on the poor (and young) who suffer the most from gambling."Dec 31 06:07
DaemonFC"bringing Internet gambling to America would hurt the poor, who are most affected when people lose money in government-approved games of chance such as state lotteries or casinos – not to mention the way it would reinforce a belief that one’s future depends on “luck” instead of individual merit."Dec 31 06:09
DaemonFC"The annual social costs of gambling-related addiction, bankruptcy, and crimes is nearly $7 billion, according to the National Council on Problem Gambling. Nearly half a million teens are gambling addicts, or about the same number as those who abuse prescription drugs."Dec 31 06:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Watch "Misfits" then. 31 06:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Misfits (TV series) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 96.7 KBDec 31 06:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Living in !China and own a Nokia !N9 or !N950 ? OpenVPN support #诺基亚N9Dec 31 06:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Meego Harmattan (Nokia N9) | VPN | Unblock websites. Improve privacy. .::. Size~: 26.98 KBDec 31 06:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Good! I hope you like it.Dec 31 07:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Wrestling with Sphinx server all day. Really wish there were a php5-sphinx package in Ubuntu that matched the sphinxsearch package.Dec 31 07:15
DaemonFC 31 07:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ocean Marketing fiasco addressed in official press release | VentureBeat .::. Size~: 77.28 KBDec 31 07:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @n4rky Hackers plan space satellites to combat censorship 31 07:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Finally Installed #Ubuntu #Precise Pangolin Alpha1 on Laptop. Having a lot of funDec 31 07:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] For once, I think the Straits Times is right - F grade for "keechew" aka chunsing #fb 31 07:55
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DaemonFCXFaCE: My bandwidth cap of 150 GB clears and starts over on the 11th of every monthDec 31 08:05
DaemonFCso now I'm going to save my brutal downloading of massive files for the last week of the month Dec 31 08:05
DaemonFCto make sure I finish it all offDec 31 08:05
XFaCEI have 300 gb, what are you getting?Dec 31 08:06
DaemonFChalf thatDec 31 08:06
DaemonFCI figure if I'm not heavy on it until the last week of that cycle, then I should have more than 75 GB left to use in the last weekDec 31 08:07
DaemonFCand use it I shallDec 31 08:07
DaemonFC:)Dec 31 08:07
DaemonFCthat's when I'm going to open the fire hydrant and start taking in music and movies and DVD images of the Linux distros I trackDec 31 08:07
DaemonFCetc.Dec 31 08:07
DaemonFCit would be nice if Ubuntu used binary patches like Fedora and SUSE doDec 31 08:08
DaemonFCthose can get your update sizes down by 70% or moreDec 31 08:09
DaemonFCanyone know of a decent way to convert a DEB to an RPM?Dec 31 08:10
DaemonFC 31 08:10
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DaemonFCSpotify has this disease that Linux = UbuntuDec 31 08:10
oiaohmDaemonFC: I guess you know of the item called alienDec 31 08:11
DaemonFCyeah....Dec 31 08:12
DaemonFCit has many dependencies Dec 31 08:12
DaemonFC*sigh*Dec 31 08:12
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Alien (software) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 34.73 KBDec 31 08:12
DaemonFCand not packaged for FedoraDec 31 08:12
oiaohmOk what version rpm does fedora have.Dec 31 08:12
DaemonFC4.9 iircDec 31 08:13
DaemonFC4.9.1Dec 31 08:13
oiaohmBuggerDec 31 08:13
oiaohmrpm 5 reads debDec 31 08:14
DaemonFCRPM5 is an unofficial fork of RPMDec 31 08:15
oiaohmI know but I wish it would become the official so people don't have these headachesDec 31 08:15
oiaohmor fedora bundle alien.Dec 31 08:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Nice. Way to go, Alma Mater! #fbDec 31 08:18
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: RPM 5: a Fork in The Linux Packaging - InternetNews. .::. Size~: 37.47 KBDec 31 08:20
oiaohmYep rpm5 is really the corect logic forwardsDec 31 08:22
oiaohmlets stop fighing over package formats and just support them.Dec 31 08:22
DaemonFCis this really just a case of Red Hat not wanting to let go of it?Dec 31 08:23
oiaohmIts a more a case they don't want to be firstDec 31 08:23
oiaohmBecause the first format might end up deprecated.Dec 31 08:23
oiaohmMaybe with deb domiance redhat might be forced to change mind.Dec 31 08:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Mark E Smith is now being interviewed on radio 4, a rarity.Dec 31 08:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Mark E. Smith "I am the real deal matey"Dec 31 08:58
cubezzzhamilton? good grief, another canadian :)Dec 31 09:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] New Years Honours Awards are political awards and it shows.Dec 31 09:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Even In The Age Of #Abundance It's Quality, Not Quantity, That Counts - or maybe *especially* #publishingDec 31 09:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Even In The Age Of Abundance It's Quality, Not Quantity, That Counts | Techdirt .::. Size~: 51.29 KBDec 31 09:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @carlopiana Wishes for 2012: more freedom, less greed and selfishness, no censorship and people more reasonable. Make a better Worl h ...Dec 31 09:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Brazil and Ghana Want OSS Added in World Summit on the Information Society, US and Australia Oppose - #au hates #OSS?Dec 31 09:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cablegate: Brazil and Ghana Want Free/Open Source Added in World Summit on the Information Society, US and Australia Oppose | Techrights .::. Size~: 118.07 KBDec 31 09:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Extremadura administration 'not going to leave free software' - well, that's a relief #opensource #spainDec 31 09:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The Coming War on General Purpose Computation. 31 09:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Consumers vs informed people [IMG]Dec 31 09:56
schestowitzDaemonFC: lloks like MacDec 31 09:57
schestowitz"Great job doing the research in WikiLeaks CableGate files and exposing all the dirt that is going on in the field of technology." 31 09:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cablegate Index at Techrights - Digg .::. Size~: 36.17 KBDec 31 09:58
iophkIIRC, Digg had an axe to grind against ODF and used to downvote the articles linked there.  That was years ago.Dec 31 09:59
schestowitzI can't seem to recall thatDec 31 10:00
iophkHmm.  It also happened to articles that you posted.  It must have been about 4 or 5 years ago.  Dec 31 10:01
iophkIt gave me a bad impression of Digg.Dec 31 10:01
schestowitz "Lets not blame google or the open source community for what others have done with ANdroid."Dec 31 10:01
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schestowitzI agree with WillDec 31 10:01
schestowitz "Thanks Will. Some time I WILL get round to trying enlightenment." I haven't tried it for almost 10 years, I used it regularly at workDec 31 10:02
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schestowitz" Dec 31 10:03
schestowitzIf you want visual organization, try e16Dec 31 10:03
schestowitzhttp:// 31 10:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Faenza is available for #KDE (with "K" at start), I use it on all machines. 31 10:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Consumers vs informed people [IMG] (link was missing before)Dec 31 10:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Having played Battlefield 3 for a couple of hours IMHO it is far superior to MW3 #gamesDec 31 10:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Almodóvar y Amenábar, a favor de la 'Ley Sinde' - sad, I thought #Almodóvar was more intelligent than this (v @jmcest)Dec 31 11:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Almodóvar y Amenábar, a favor de la 'Ley Sinde' .::. Size~: 58.13 KBDec 31 11:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Identica Hmm... client version is higher than daemon version (client is v.1.25, daemon is v.1.22)Dec 31 11:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Duke of Cambridge Puts on the Feed Bag in Whitehall – yet another delightful brit tradition (v @vickeegan) #londonDec 31 11:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Police trial lie detector tests on suspected sex offenders - a slippery slope & an awful precedentDec 31 11:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Police trial lie detector tests on suspected sex offenders | UK news | .::. Size~: 90.64 KBDec 31 11:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Swedish editor [Expressen] charged with weapons crimes. Expressen has done a lot that is wrong, but this is absurd. 31 11:31
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iophkThe largest single ethnic minority in Malmö is Swedish.Dec 31 11:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Came in to Mumbai from pune right now. Hordes of cars & people heading out. No traffic coming into the city :-)Dec 31 11:50
schestowitziophk: so is it still a minority?Dec 31 11:51
iophkAre landlines being phased out in Sweden?Dec 31 11:51
iophkYes.Dec 31 11:51
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schestowitziophk: bad newsDec 31 11:51
schestowitzmobiles are tracking devicesDec 31 11:51
schestowitzjust had a chat about it here with the g/f... cause I encourage people to not use mobilesDec 31 11:52
schestowitzAnd shops here demand ID for one to use a phoneDec 31 11:52
schestowitzeven top-upsDec 31 11:52
schestowitzLandlines are also radiation-free almost.. bar gamma rays maybeDec 31 11:52
schestowitzIn the UK, public phone booths are almost entirely phased out.,.. it is hard to find them and those that exist are poorly maintained or out of orderDec 31 11:53
schestowitzIt's probably not a conspiracy to move people to tracking devices (them being tracked) but more of a business decision, market-driven but dangerousDec 31 11:54
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schestowitzarghDec 31 11:59
schestowitzWrong pasteDec 31 11:59
schestowitz"@Bug Bane google doesn't use GPL license, they use apache-like license so they can "subvert" opensource projects."Dec 31 11:59
schestowitzSo rainy and grey here todayDec 31 11:59
schestowitzNot a good day to be out for fireworksDec 31 11:59
oiaohmBug Bane is a idiotDec 31 12:01
oiaohmGoogle did not choose to use apache license.Dec 31 12:01
iophkI know some people who are having their land line cut off and replaced by some kind of mobile service.  I didn't get the details except that the sound quality of the replacement is almost unusable.Dec 31 12:01
oiaohmApache license is what the hardware makers asked for.Dec 31 12:01
iophk Dec 31 12:02
iophkApache/BSD style licenses are really good if your competitors use them, according to Eben Moglen.Dec 31 12:02
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oiaohmI back the GPL ideaDec 31 12:03
oiaohmThat I give code away for free I should recieve code back.Dec 31 12:03
iophkDual licensing has proven to be a successful business model.Dec 31 12:04
iophkHowever, GPL or not, the license chosen should be at least GPL compatible even if it is one of the other licenses which favors developers over users.Dec 31 12:04
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oiaohmTo a point iophkDec 31 12:05
oiaohmDuel licensing that requires copyright assignement has ended up very non successful.Dec 31 12:05
iophkCopyright assignment is a separate question.Dec 31 12:05
oiaohmNo it not.Dec 31 12:05
oiaohmIf you want to make a closed source and a gpl code base release.Dec 31 12:06
iophkIts largely independent of licensing.  It does though prevent re-licensing easily.Dec 31 12:06
oiaohmYou have to get permission for the closed source from everyone submitting.Dec 31 12:06
oiaohmThat form of Duel license normally fallsDec 31 12:06
iophkIf you want to make a closed source and a GPL release base, then you have to start from the beginning.  Without copyright assignment, you can't change licenses or practices midstream.Dec 31 12:06
oiaohmWithout copyright assignment you can still change licenses midstreamDec 31 12:07
oiaohmthere are legal ways to achive it.Dec 31 12:07
iophkIt takes forever that way.Dec 31 12:08
oiaohmReally it does not.Dec 31 12:08
iophkLook at the discussions about whether the Linux Kernel even *could* change to GPLv3Dec 31 12:08
oiaohmMax of 7 years delay.Dec 31 12:08
iophkIn computer terms, 7 years is a very long time.  It's longer than "dog years"Dec 31 12:09
oiaohmBasically if someone does not respond to notice inside 7 years you can go ahead anyhow.Dec 31 12:09
oiaohmAlso anyone who does agree to the change there code can be dual licensed until the 7 years is up.Dec 31 12:10
iophkThat's assuming it is even possible to contact them.  A lot of domains and e-mail addresses fall out of use. Dec 31 12:10
oiaohm7 years you just have to publish public notices.Dec 31 12:10
oiaohmYou don't have to find them.Dec 31 12:10
iophkHow does that work?  On which law is it basedDec 31 12:10
oiaohmBasically the same law that allows you to presume someone who is not findable is dead after 7 years.Dec 31 12:11
oiaohmIts one of common laws to all countries.Dec 31 12:11
oiaohmPeople disappearing happens all the time.Dec 31 12:11
oiaohmSo the law has a system built in to deal with it.Dec 31 12:11
oiaohmNow if lets say everyone who still had code in the project has been contacted before 7 years you can convert before the 7 years is up.Dec 31 12:12
oiaohmBasically there is no forever.  Its just a beep long time to convert  iophkDec 31 12:13
oiaohmiophk: did you forgot about the section of law that allows you to processed because someone is legally not findable.Dec 31 12:15
iophkUnfamiliar with it.  IANAL.Dec 31 12:25
oiaohmiophk: I have also watch the mono project lead convert from gpl and lgpl to mit by brute kind of force.Dec 31 12:26
formic_I am a lawyerDec 31 12:26
oiaohmiophk: basically person don't agree to license his code just get deleted.Dec 31 12:26
oiaohmformic_:  iophk "Death in absentia" releated.  That you have advertised what you are going to do.  They have 7 years to place an objection.  Failure to place objection the are then believed to agree with advertised option.Dec 31 12:31
oiaohmAnd if you are disabled of course anyone who knows where you are can place a objection that you cannot reply at this time.Dec 31 12:32
oiaohmNot commonly used section of law.  Does have to be used in cases where key perosn to a company has disappeared.Dec 31 12:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Candidates Starting To Turn #SOPA Into A Campaign Issue: #KarenKwiatkowski Goes After Bob Goodlatte 31 12:35
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formic_I can tell you thisDec 31 12:36
formic_The stuff sovereign people often win in court or getting out by never acknowledging their business nameDec 31 12:38
oiaohmYep disappearing CEO and other important people to companies does happen.Dec 31 12:39
oiaohmLeaving nasty legal pickels then the rare sections of law have to come out to fix.Dec 31 12:40
oiaohmiophk: basically the legal issues that the Linux kernel faces with copyright is no different to what you face with company copyrights when like you lead coder disappears off the face of earth and you forgot to put the bugger under contract.Dec 31 12:44
DaemonFCThe Supreme Court in the US has taken an alarming turn around and instead of interpreting the laws with a bias towards individual rights of citizens, they've been off rubber stamping and legitimizing anything the government wants to do to usDec 31 12:44
DaemonFCand rich corporations tooDec 31 12:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Following online instructions I have finally stopped Google Maps running in the background all the time using about 5MB of memory. #AndroidDec 31 12:45
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msb__Cory Doctorow talk - The Coming War on General Purpose Computation 31 12:59
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msb__Very interesting!Dec 31 12:59
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msb__Best 9/11 video ever! 31 13:06
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oiaohmmsb__: really with unlocked boot loaders on devices becoming more common.Dec 31 13:08
oiaohmThe war on general is not going very far.Dec 31 13:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] My unremarkable phone home screen. 31 13:08
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msb__He thinks we're only seeing the beginning now.  The only way to stop "piracy" will be to lock down computers, by law.Dec 31 13:09
msb__Ultimately it will fail, but the greed of the wealthy, and their control of government, will result in some very nasty attempts.Dec 31 13:11
DaemonFCthe war on everythingDec 31 13:11
msb__Yep.Dec 31 13:11
DaemonFCthe only thing fucking Fox News picks up on is the "war on Christmas" that they made upDec 31 13:12
msb__Fluoride calcifies the pineal gland and destroys its function.  When healthy, the pineal gland secretes hormones that stimulate imagination, awareness, and escape from extermal programming.  That's why we have fluoridated water!Dec 31 13:13
DaemonFCthe war on Christmas isn't going so well, it's been going on at least three times as long as the war on terrorDec 31 13:13
DaemonFCand about half as long as the war on drugsDec 31 13:13
DaemonFCand it has made about as much progressDec 31 13:13
DaemonFCbut the atheists didn't spend my tax money doing itDec 31 13:13
DaemonFC:)Dec 31 13:14
msb__What's the WOC supposed to be?Dec 31 13:14
msb__No creches in schools?Dec 31 13:14
DaemonFCevery year, the cultists try to get their ten commandments myth planted 20 feet tall on a courthouse somewhereDec 31 13:14
DaemonFCand the America-hating Gays and Muslims sue over itDec 31 13:15
DaemonFCthat's how the people watching Fox Noise see itDec 31 13:15
msb__The Commies too!Dec 31 13:15
msb__And the Atheists who are out to destroy us all!Dec 31 13:15
msb__Terrorists is what they are!Dec 31 13:16
DaemonFCinterestingly enough when you hear one of them bitching, it's never about atheistsDec 31 13:16
DaemonFCapparently there are no atheists anymoreDec 31 13:16
DaemonFCthey all turned into Gays and MuslimsDec 31 13:16
DaemonFCdon't know where the fuck they wentDec 31 13:16
msb__Maybe theyDec 31 13:16
DaemonFCone day they were atheists, the next they were buttfucking and blowing up buildingsDec 31 13:16
msb__'re not mentioned so people won't access their arguments.Dec 31 13:17
oiaohmHistory the hostile changes.Dec 31 13:18
oiaohmMuslim there is a issue with culture tollerence in the base of it.Dec 31 13:18
oiaohmThat was beaten out of most christians.Dec 31 13:18
oiaohmProblem is the biggest stack of christians with lack of culture tollerence is in the USA>Dec 31 13:18
oiaohmYep the problem.Dec 31 13:19
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oiaohmLarge sections of the usa you are not christian you are the enimey.Dec 31 13:20
msb__Ah, the Daleks with their toilet-plunger weapons.Dec 31 13:20
oiaohmmsb__: Yep that in latter serios could suck the live force out of you.Dec 31 13:20
msb__But their power supplies always had inadequate filtering.  That was their weak point.Dec 31 13:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @adiblol: @rysiek @telecomix new version of , and propaganda movie #tcxplDec 31 13:23
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oiaohmmsb__: really power supplies was not there only weakness.Dec 31 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @ramonsuarez raising elephants is so utterly boring /cc @maleadtDec 31 13:26
msb__oiaohm: I forget, were there actually living creatures inside the Dalek shells?Dec 31 13:27
oiaohmmsb__: Yep there are.Dec 31 13:28
oiaohmThey are a very exteram form of cyborg.Dec 31 13:29
msb__Fomenting hate and wars between religious groups is a way for the economic elite to control the people on both sides.  Hence 9/11.Dec 31 13:33
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oiaohmThe dalek have changed power sources over time msb__Dec 31 13:33
oiaohmThe last ones have no power source weakness.Dec 31 13:33
msb__No hum in their voices?Dec 31 13:34
oiaohmEven worse some of them had the means to go threw time basically a dalek/tardis hybred.Dec 31 13:34
oiaohmThe same size as a tardis.Dec 31 13:34
oiaohmOppsDec 31 13:35
oiaohmsame size as a dalekDec 31 13:35
msb__They're kind of like the Morlocks.Dec 31 13:36
msb__Nasty, physically degenerated dominators.Dec 31 13:37
msb__In a few days or weeks a law will be passed in the US allowing the govt to arrest, imprison, torture, and kill anyone in the US without a trial or even charges.Dec 31 13:40
msb__The end of the Bill of Rights.Dec 31 13:41
oiaohmMorlocks are more cybermen.Dec 31 13:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I have updated my Yacy client I am hoping it will be more stable. It certainly seems to be working better so far. #FLOSSsearchDec 31 13:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Ten Most Anticipated #Bitcoin Projects for 2012 - some interesting ideasDec 31 13:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Whip Up Some #DNA With a Home PCR Machine - "You do have a sequencing machine, right?" #opengenomicsDec 31 13:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "Radio Maryja, czy jest słuchane?" !atheism !polskaDec 31 13:56
DaemonFC[08:36] <msb__> They're kind of like the Morlocks.Dec 31 14:02
DaemonFC[08:36] <msb__> Nasty, physically degenerated dominators.Dec 31 14:02
DaemonFCRepublicansDec 31 14:02
DaemonFC:)Dec 31 14:02
msb__Unfortunately the Democrats are just as bad, they just lie and pretend to be liberals.  Almost all of them voted for this new police state law.Dec 31 14:03
DaemonFCwell, if you asked me a  years ago I would have said don't worry, the courts will strike that downDec 31 14:05
DaemonFCbut these days, they're just towing the line for the anti-constitutional government we haveDec 31 14:05
DaemonFC*fewDec 31 14:05
DaemonFCcivilian courts have dealt with terrorists before, and they've done an outstanding job of itDec 31 14:06
DaemonFCthis permanent detention thing is basically just a power grab from the president, taking powers that have traditionally been the job of the judicial branchDec 31 14:07
DaemonFCnobody is saying we should let real terrorists that pose a real threat looseDec 31 14:07
DaemonFCbut if you don't give them a trial, you're tossing out the rule of law Dec 31 14:08
DaemonFCand they wonDec 31 14:08
msb__The major "terrorist" attacks have all been govt false-flag operations.  The govt can't risk having them tried or investigated by honest courts or they'd be found out.Dec 31 14:08
DaemonFCI'm not comfortable giving up my fourth amendment rights over something that won't make me saferDec 31 14:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Satellite Photos Illustrate Dramatic Expansion of Canadian Tar Sands - this is just insane #canada #tarsandsDec 31 14:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A Geek’s Guide to China’s Silicon Valley - handy intro #china #startupsDec 31 14:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] It is a happy new years eve, but remember, Manning & Assange are spending it detained. 31 14:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] would anyone be surprised if US politicians tried to force time zones changed worldwide, so the US is the first to hit #NewYear?Dec 31 14:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] valid points, but why single out just #Apple? it applies to many more tooDec 31 14:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] progress is change, not all change is bad some tasks are made redundant by tech, while others emergeDec 31 14:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Friends of WikiLeaks is nearing critical mass. 3k more members and we press the red button 31 14:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Listening to Exile On Main St. Lovely stuff #music.Dec 31 14:43
DaemonFCI may switch to fiber optic next monthDec 31 14:46
DaemonFCtheir package with no cap that's over twice as fast as my DSL is the same priceDec 31 14:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 2011: #Piracy Wars and Internet #Censorship Part I - good summary of a dismal year from the excellent TorrentFreakDec 31 14:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] happy !GNU year to all! may you have all the freedom you deserve!Dec 31 14:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The red button meshes together all members into an instant decentralized global social network with robust properties.Dec 31 14:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Lynch mob awaits Assange in Sweden according to the Swedish publication Rixstep News 31 15:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Donate Now | The #Mozilla Story 31 15:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I am going to have to start another campaign of Battlefield 3 so I can Soundhound that first song.Dec 31 15:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Bad defeat. Feel sorry for Berbatov most of all :-( #mufcDec 31 15:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Youtube to the rescue. 'God's gonna cut you down' Johnny Cash.Dec 31 15:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] 2012 is upon us already. Well, it's been some year! Full of ups and downs as always. Here's to the next one!Happy New Year :)Dec 31 15:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I do not want to listen to any new music today. Comfy familiar sounds are required.Dec 31 15:45
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DaemonFCSo much for yaircDec 31 15:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] Nope, this is just an example of where we need to grow as people. Unless the original author did the "translation" it is not his work.Dec 31 15:50
iophkNintendo and Sony are now on the fence.Dec 31 15:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Project MKNAOMI - Wikipedia - #cia #usa #bioweapons 31 15:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] Approved translation versus unapproved translation. We can learn the difference. Don't need threats of jail...Dec 31 15:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz I agree copyright is not the ideal tool for the job (and told even RMS so), but I still think consulting author 1st is bestDec 31 15:55
iophkSOPA needs active opposition at this point.  Passive fence riding is inadequate.Dec 31 15:55
DaemonFCApparently angry birds has links to BingDec 31 15:55
iophkHow would a game sell out like that? What's the link?Dec 31 15:56
DaemonFCThere's an app called nobing that redirects all Bing searches to GoogleDec 31 15:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] always said it's tough to play teams fighting for their lives, specially at the end of the season !football !ManUtd lose 2-3 to BlackburnDec 31 15:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz one of the problems specific to translations is that translators can't clearly mark changes they madeDec 31 15:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz they could mark everything, or points that took tricky choices, but they can't mark points they didn't know they mistranslatedDec 31 15:56
DaemonFCIt mentions angry birds forcing Bing on peopleDec 31 15:56
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iophkWhat's in it for Angry Birds to be tainted so?Dec 31 15:58
iophkIs there a paper trail of some kind?Dec 31 15:58 31 15:58
DaemonFCMicrosoft makes apps for android while claiming android users are stealing from MicrosoftDec 31 15:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #EA, #Nintendo, #Sony Quietly Withdraw SOPA Support remember Sony are part of the #RIAA / #MPAA who wrote #SOPADec 31 16:01
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DaemonFCNintendo never supported sopa that I am aware ofDec 31 16:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz @mdim this to me indicates translations are yet another class of works for which a different set of freedoms are essentialDec 31 16:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] what's the betting #SOPA will die, to be replaced with a new renamed SOPA with added "national security" clauses to keep the PR cleanDec 31 16:05
DaemonFCAngry birds is so who red out they even have angry birds bandages at WalmartDec 31 16:05
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iophkYeah.  I've seen the merchandising at the grocery store even.Dec 31 16:06
DaemonFCSpotify is my favorite app so farDec 31 16:08
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DaemonFCLolDec 31 16:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laf0rge/@laf0rge] #osmocom #SDR OsmoSDR block diagram and schematics now available from 31 16:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma Whose getting married?Dec 31 16:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma Both ways ... Congratulations to the Bride and my condolences to the GroomDec 31 16:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] war; what is it good for? - the arms industry, say it again senator or we stop funding your campaign = #warremixDec 31 16:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] not the way to go with Free Software. The pay to get a special colour post or something like that is different and likely OK.Dec 31 16:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] An hall of fame? Or an Executive Producers list?Dec 31 16:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] we do not need a different set of freedoms. We need our freedom. In this case, an officially approved translation can do the job.Dec 31 16:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] Does not matter, let the author give an approval to a translation he approves of. Anything else, put to the translator and not the author.Dec 31 16:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz so, let's talk about our freedom. is it our freedom to misrepresent (intentionally or not) others' statements?Dec 31 16:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] 2011 in Review: patents are misused to stifle innovation. 31 16:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Scott Olsen, U.S. Vet Wounded at Occupy Oakland, on Recovery, Protests, Iraq and Bradley Manning | Democracy Now 31 17:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is 2012 the year of the #NewYearHat? @nybillDec 31 17:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @robmyers: RT @lxoliva happy !GNU year to all! may you have all the freedom you deserve!Dec 31 17:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] deseo que al fín del 2012 @octaviotron ya no tenga más tantos deseos... ¡que ya sean realidad! :-) ¡feliz año gnuevo!Dec 31 18:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] US independent Stars and Stripes military magazine banned from reading public WikiLeaks documents by US government 31 18:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Well, that was a pretty grievous error. I pushed some code to hide silenced users to, and it totally swamped the DB servers.Dec 31 18:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Identica is back, can't keep a good service down.Dec 31 18:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] I really agree with him: 31 18:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] 2011 in Review: four cases that promoted transparency 31 18:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Cool! Yeah, that sounds pretty great. And don't worry: the web is fun now!Dec 31 18:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] It is. Actually, downtime was unrelated to Twitter -- it was me pushing some buggy code. Whoops!Dec 31 18:31
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formic_Glad Nintendo backed out of SOPADec 31 18:41
iophkThey've only backed part way out.  The active support is dropped but that's a long way from actual open opposition.Dec 31 18:42
formic_I don't care if they don't oppose it as long as they don't support itDec 31 18:43
formic_They aren't obligated Dec 31 18:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Looking at a big budget CGI film from 2004. CGI has come a long way in only 7 years.Dec 31 18:45
formic_Dropping support could be seen as opposition tooDec 31 18:46
iophkIt can also be seen as passive support. Dec 31 18:47
formic_Soldiers who deserted the us military when they went to Iraq didn't join saddenDec 31 18:47
formic_SaddamDec 31 18:47
iophkThat they are coming from a position of active support, the passive stance looks from here like it is passive support.Dec 31 18:47
formic_Bologna Dec 31 18:48
iophkYes, I agree that they are full of it, too, until such point as they actively oppose the legislation.Dec 31 18:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I do not know who Katheryn Jenkins is and can't be bothered to look her up.Dec 31 18:50
abeNd-org1heh, nintendo has a good platform to stand on with the ROM piracyDec 31 18:52
abeNd-org1even Wii game piracyDec 31 18:53
abeNd-org1i know a few people who havent bought a single game, even used, just pirate them allDec 31 18:53
XFaCEabeNd-org1: You mean unliscensed right? :)Dec 31 18:56
XFaCEPiracy just sounds sillyDec 31 18:56
abeNd-org1piracy/unlicensed/not-paid-forDec 31 18:56
XFaCEabeNd-org1: One of those things are not like the otherDec 31 18:57
XFaCE*is notDec 31 18:57
XFaCETo use analogies that I've utilized beforeDec 31 18:57
XFaCEIf someone changed your desktop background, would you call it vandalism?Dec 31 18:58
abeNd-org1,/ill gotten goods/nintendo sees no money yet people acquire non-free product/etcDec 31 18:58
XFaCEIf someone cracked your computer, would you call it rape?Dec 31 18:58
abeNd-org1actually, people shouldnt be touching my computer without my permission, to change the background or hit it with a baseball bat. if it is my property, they should not be touching it without my permission Dec 31 18:59
XFaCEabeNd-org1: Furthermore, there are plenty of studies showing a positive correlation between filesharing and monetary gainsDec 31 18:59
XFaCEabeNd-org1: "Damn that "piracy" that has a positive effect on our profits!"Dec 31 19:00
MinceRavast!Dec 31 19:00
abeNd-org1im doubting someone who downloaded the rom for the original zelda is going to turn around & buy it in the virtual consoleDec 31 19:01
XFaCEeegad!Dec 31 19:01
XFaCEabeNd-org1: But they may buy the new Zelda gameDec 31 19:01
XFaCEabeNd-org1: What you think is irrelevantDec 31 19:01
XFaCEabeNd-org1: In comparison to statisticsDec 31 19:01
XFaCEThe internet is not an all-good or all-bad layer to doing businessDec 31 19:02
XFaCEit's just a layer that has to be taken into accountDec 31 19:02
abeNd-org1or just d/l skyward sword & not pay for it at allDec 31 19:02
XFaCEabeNd-org1: Sure, there are some who will do thatDec 31 19:02
XFaCEThere will also be those who download it and get inspired to get more Zelda gamesDec 31 19:02
XFaCEThere are those who would have waited to buy it used (=no profit to Nintedo)Dec 31 19:03
XFaCEThere are those who wouldn't have bought the game in the first placeDec 31 19:03
XFaCEThere are those who scratch their copies and d/l instead of buy a new copyDec 31 19:03
XFaCEThe reality isn't black and whiteDec 31 19:03
XFaCEa d/l does not equal a lost saleDec 31 19:04
XFaCEnot even closeDec 31 19:04
XFaCEFor example, there are these out-of production Genesis CDs from the early 80s and 90s that sound a lot better than the later, still-in-production remastersDec 31 19:05
XFaCEWhat's the difference to the publishing company if I buy it used or download it?Dec 31 19:06
XFaCENothing.Dec 31 19:06
XFaCEThe person who put it can still sell it used somewhere.Dec 31 19:06
XFaCEI bet the publishing companies would just as much want to elliminate the second-hand market as they would the file-sharing infrastructureDec 31 19:07
XFaCEMinceR: Amirite?Dec 31 19:07
MinceRindeedDec 31 19:08
MinceRthere already was some bitching from video gaming companies about second-hand salesDec 31 19:08
XFaCEMinceR: Yeah, some rep posted about that subject on the Geist blogDec 31 19:08
XFaCEComplaining that the second-hand market harms themDec 31 19:09
XFaCEI respond, "So you want royalties on second-hand sales? So does Ford get to claim royalties when one of their cars is sold second-hand?"Dec 31 19:09
XFaCEah, here's my exact quoteDec 31 19:11
XFaCE"The second hand retail sales issue is much more complex and a 100x more serious issue... as the post above mentions, there is an expectation that "first sale" principles apply, meaning you can sell (or give away) something you bought... the problem is when retailers like EB and FutureShop make an industry out of buying and selling used games, making a lot of money on it themselves, but no money goes back to the original developers... the retail stores Dec 31 19:11
XFaCEget richer, the people who made the game do not. There is no simple solution here. "Dec 31 19:11
XFaCEWhile I do understand where you are coming from George, I don't understand how this is any different then say, the sale of used cars. Ford doesn't get a cut of a pie if a unaffiliated used card dealer decides to sell a used Taurus. Another example, the Beetles don't get a cut when some guy sells his vintage Beatles record on Ebay. Why do you think your industry should be treated any different in this regard? Dec 31 19:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Sample photo upload to test. 31 19:13
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XFaCEabeNd-org1: See?Dec 31 19:13
schestowitz"I have received notifications from" "Don't have the problem on :)" 31 19:18
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schestowitz "To err is human, but to REALLY foul things up you need a computer."Dec 31 19:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I do not know what ohteenquotes is and may look it up.Dec 31 19:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !tzag ... just popped in to post a link to the !InconstantMoon Thursday Special Feature (yes indeed... 'tis the season to be late!)Dec 31 19:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] This week's !InconstantMoon (belated) Special Feature is the Boris page (complete w/link to Bo's photobucket page) 31 19:25
XFaCEschestowitz: So what does this mean, we should switch from 31 19:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Tzag @Laurelrusswurm.Dec 31 19:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Happy New Year @satipera :)Dec 31 19:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] now I'm off to buy a shovel to replace the one stolen from my porch and then start the New Years Eve spaghetti sauce... !tzafDec 31 19:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Hey, I didn't expect that to work.Dec 31 19:31
abeNd-org1to route that used game market companies are now going the microtransaction route, or the 1 time use "allow you to play online" code in the boxDec 31 19:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is gomerx from with 48 dents!Dec 31 19:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] It is almost January a month before our coldest month and it is 11 degrees outside at 19.45 hrsDec 31 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] It took me 2 days to recover from Christmas and Boxing day so for all those Identizens out on the razz tonight may your hangover be minimal.Dec 31 19:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] No Kelvin, we are hard in Wiltshire :-)Dec 31 19:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @satipera We moved out of youDec 31 20:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @satipera Have you tried to inform delta airlines? Hint: it's not me..Dec 31 20:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I spilled hot fat on my foot over Christmas and now have a magnificent scab to show for it.Dec 31 20:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] that's in about 3h here ;)♻ @rsiddharth: This year is the #Alan_Turing_Year : #2012Dec 31 20:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] A nice happy tux. Save that happy tux.Dec 31 20:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Feliz 2012 | Ubuntu Dicas .::. Size~: 54.93 KBDec 31 20:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Take a long running series of films and the difference in the directorship is obvious.Dec 31 20:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Johnny Depp is cool despite some dodgy films, because he just is.Dec 31 20:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] 2011 in Review: Internet freedom in the wake of the Arab Spring #netfreedomDec 31 20:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Skint a word with meaning by the many to pay for essentials and eventually to the comfortable elite as the poor threaten their profits.Dec 31 21:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] From the past.. Checking your coupon.Dec 31 21:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Made up word ownanistic.Dec 31 21:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Esta Semana (2011/52) – Bom 2012; 2011 o ano das tretas dos media « O Vigia - #blog 31 21:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] The Coming War on General Purpose Computation - Boing Boing 31 21:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] What I want for 2012 is for a laptop manufacturer to make a cable clamp that can be easily undone but saves the pressure put on the adapter.Dec 31 21:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Keiser is hot on copyright reform too. He is becoming a well watched bod.Dec 31 21:45
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iophkHappy New Year 2012 UTC+2Dec 31 22:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] That bloody RMS what has ever done for us :)Dec 31 22:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The great British tradition of getting people who are too young or worse too stupid to speak goes on and on.Dec 31 22:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laf0rge/@laf0rge] #debian unstable update of stunnel (4.42 to 4.50) broke my mail setup as a slightly delayed christmas present; filing a bug report..Dec 31 22:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I looked up stuff from my youth and they are not the same which is why I looked them up.Dec 31 22:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RMS and j I mean.Dec 31 22:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Can we start this conversation again?Dec 31 22:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 12 Must-See Skywatching Events in 2012 | 2012 Skywatching Events Guide & 2012 Venus Transit | vi@imaboneheadDec 31 22:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Looking at an early Mad Max film . Who would know that such a young man would be so messed up.Dec 31 22:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] The #LCA2012 team would like to wish all of our Delegates, Sponsors, Speakers and Volunteers a very happy New Year! See you in two weeks!Dec 31 22:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] Going to #LCA2012? Awesome! Staying on campus? Double awesome! Here's some info for you 31 22:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Ron Paul - Imagine - STOP POLICING THE WORLD! - YouTubeDec 31 22:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #RonPaul - Imagine - STOP POLICING THE WORLD! - YouTube 31 22:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] feliz año nuevooooooooooooooooooouuuuuuuu!! / Happy new yeaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!Dec 31 23:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] If anyone ever thought that everyone invited to a Jools Holland show was talented Cyndi Lauper is at this one.Dec 31 23:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] Worried about 3G coverage on campus at #LCA2012? More info here: 31 23:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] @evan I'm guessing the queue daemon needs a kick. !feds sites not receiving anything from SN cloud.Dec 31 23:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Tzaf @R7Dec 31 23:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] @evan ... nor are federated site receiving anything from !identica. #startdaemons.shDec 31 23:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] Going to #LCA2012? Are you on our Twitter list? Would you like to be? Let us know! 31 23:58
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