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schestowitzoiaohm: I saw you mentioned in USENET yesterday:Feb 15 08:15
schestowitz<schestowitz> Re: oiaohm's comment on "fragmentation" at Pogson's blogFeb 15 08:15
schestowitz<schestowitz> > http://mrpogson.com/2012/02/05/whats-happening-with-floss-in-usa/#comment-81046Feb 15 08:15
schestowitz<schestowitz> > Feb 15 08:15
TechrightsSocialTitle: Page not found Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 24.99 KBFeb 15 08:15
schestowitz<TechrightsSocial> Title: Page not found Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 24.89 KBFeb 15 08:15
schestowitz<schestowitz> > I like the way he pointed out to one of the usual WinTrollsFeb 15 08:15
schestowitz<schestowitz> > the version-to-version inconsistency of Windoze.Feb 15 08:15
schestowitz<schestowitz> > Feb 15 08:15
schestowitz<schestowitz> > I didn't realize there were so many Windoze package formats either.Feb 15 08:15
schestowitz<schestowitz> > Feb 15 08:15
schestowitz<schestowitz> > ...then there's the completeness of the installs:Feb 15 08:15
schestowitz<schestowitz> > Feb 15 08:15
schestowitz<schestowitz> > Caveat:  His English can be a challengeFeb 15 08:15
schestowitz<schestowitz> > ("there" for "their" is one of the easier things to unscramble).Feb 15 08:15
schestowitz<schestowitz> > Feb 15 08:15
schestowitz<schestowitz> > |Windows 7 in distrobutions is 6 main namesFeb 15 08:15
schestowitz<schestowitz> > |these main names have to be multiplied byFeb 15 08:15
schestowitz<schestowitz> > |the number of language and regional particular versions made.Feb 15 08:15
schestowitz<schestowitz> > |Windows 7 counted by distribution almost is as wide as ubuntu bloodFeb 15 08:15
schestowitz<schestowitz> > lineFeb 15 08:15
schestowitz<schestowitz> > |yet without the venation in provided software.Feb 15 08:15
schestowitz<schestowitz> > |Microsoft fails to provide one size fits all as well.Feb 15 08:15
schestowitz<schestowitz> > |Just since you don’t travel the globe it kinda hidden from you.Feb 15 08:15
schestowitz<schestowitz> > .Feb 15 08:15
schestowitz<schestowitz> > .Feb 15 08:15
schestowitz<schestowitz> > The pie chart at the top of the page for OS usage in CaliforniaFeb 15 08:15
schestowitz<schestowitz> > and the one for Mountain View are interesting as well.Feb 15 08:15
schestowitz<schestowitz> > Feb 15 08:15
schestowitz<schestowitz> > I like oe's comment:Feb 15 08:16
schestowitz<schestowitz> > |Maybe the Great Recession has started to help folksFeb 15 08:16
schestowitz<schestowitz> > |to refocus on value over flashinessFeb 15 08:16
oiaohmschestowitz: See I never have to post in USENETFeb 15 08:17
oiaohmWhere ever I post I end up in there anyhow.Feb 15 08:17
schestowitzhehFeb 15 08:17
schestowitzI know this feeling..Feb 15 08:17
oiaohmRemember I mostly don't run a website.Feb 15 08:18
oiaohmMost people never measure windows by the same metric Linux world uses.Feb 15 08:19
oiaohmOnce you do its like oh my god how does MS maintain that without it busting then the penny drops they don't.Feb 15 08:19
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schestowitzoiaohm: yeahFeb 15 08:35
oiaohmMost people are not aware that partners like me who order the MS action pack NRD version of MS products.Feb 15 08:36
oiaohmThat version takes different product keys.Feb 15 08:36
oiaohmSo windows 7  6 main versions.  That then get printed in 3 sub versions per language region.  ie OEM Retail and NRDFeb 15 08:37
oiaohmThen you have each OEM makers remixed Installation disks that will auto install crap.Feb 15 08:37
oiaohmDistrobution numbers of windows grows really quickly.Feb 15 08:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/169695006527991808?iid=am-133564127713292934171244355&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Feb 15 08:41
TechrightsSocialNot a tweet?Feb 15 08:41
schestowitzIs it just this one link or an accident?Feb 15 08:43
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/90377227#notice-90610750 http://identi.ca/notice/90610750Feb 15 08:43
TechrightsSocialTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 12.78 KBFeb 15 08:43
TechrightsSocial@Mikael (inscius)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Feb-12 08:34:16 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz x-ray? not metal- detectors? #wtf #sicksocietyFeb 15 08:43
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/90610967 http://identi.ca/notice/90610951Feb 15 08:44
TechrightsSocial@Mikael (inscius)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Feb-12 08:38:37 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz and the policy makers are #oxy-moronsFeb 15 08:44
TechrightsSocial@Mikael (inscius)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Feb-12 08:37:04 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz  they removed their own hearts and are envious normal people have conscience.Feb 15 08:44
schestowitzThose who made some of these decisions tried to help their friends who sell x-ray scanner sell yet more -- for peopleFeb 15 08:45
schestowitz> Hi, Roy,Feb 15 10:02
schestowitz> Feb 15 10:02
schestowitz> Dilbert seems to be getting into product placement for M$Feb 15 10:02
schestowitz> http://dilbert.com/2012-02-15/Feb 15 10:02
TechrightsSocialTitle: The official Dilbert website with Scott Adams' color comic strips, animation, mashups and more! .::. Size~: 29.59 KBFeb 15 10:02
schestowitz> Feb 15 10:02
schestowitz> I hope it's an accident and that they are not heading down the drainFeb 15 10:02
schestowitz> hole that Doonesbury went down.Feb 15 10:02
schestowitzRemember Microsoft's product placements in Family Guy? This not only caused resentment from me (I liked that show) but also got the producer under heavy fire before he pulled out, IIRC. The same goes for Jerry Seinfeld. Myself and others can no longer stand this sellout. It's all about perception and is xkcd turned its back on FOSS like Digg did (2007), it would be the domino brick leading to mass exodus.Feb 15 10:02
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/90613666Feb 15 10:03
TechrightsSocial@Mikael (inscius)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Feb-12 10:01:31 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz it's ironic that they use x-ray on the public, but they don't want the public to see what they are up to. assymetry of tyrannyFeb 15 10:03
schestowitzso trueFeb 15 10:03
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schestowitz> I came late to Digg so I only ever saw it when it was openly hostileFeb 15 10:11
schestowitz> to FOSS.  It's hard going against a cult like M$Feb 15 10:11
schestowitzReddit poached many diggers and it stayed relatively receptive to FOSS.Feb 15 10:11
schestowitz"You are getting a lot of bad mail from Hungarians."Feb 15 10:13
schestowitzhttp://blogs.ec.europa.eu/neelie-kroes/young-advisers-2012/Feb 15 10:13
TechrightsSocialError processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 504 Gateway TimeoutFeb 15 10:13
schestowitzMinceR: ^^Feb 15 10:13
schestowitz> Do you know any of the internal factors in Digg turning against FOSSFeb 15 10:59
schestowitz> and open standards?  Those are the kind of stories that should seeFeb 15 10:59
schestowitz> daylight.Feb 15 10:59
schestowitzMy friend Christian reminded Kevin Rose of how he started Digg from scratch with some Debian server/s and then turned to just drooling Mac fans, then Microsoft cash. Then there was editorial impact. Now the "Open Source" section of the site (where I am a leader with 2730 followers) has sponsored MS ads for IE, added into the section as bolted-in "content".Feb 15 10:59
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/90616034Feb 15 11:04
TechrightsSocial@Jose R Rodriguez (metztli)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Feb-12 11:03:00 UTC - Identi.ca: ♺ @schestowitz #Isis unveiled: #HP's opened #webOS Web browser src code—to be distributed under #Apache license http://goo.gl/bCRV2 !linuxFeb 15 11:04
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Isis unveiled: HP has opened the source code of the webOS Web browser .::. Size~: 32.18 KBFeb 15 11:04
schestowitzDNS seems to be downFeb 15 12:24
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schestowitz[18:05] <tessier> Got your voicemail. Been getting pages but not sure what is going on. Looks like it might be a network disruption at the datacenter upstream from me.Feb 15 18:06
schestowitz[18:05] <tessier> techrights.org comes up for me.Feb 15 18:06
schestowitz[18:05] <schestowitz> seemed like that all along, which is why I didn't phone earlier on :-) so basically nothing we should worry about :-)Feb 15 18:06
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schestowitzFeb 15 18:08
schestowitz[18:07] <tessier> I'll have a talk with the datacenter.Feb 15 18:08
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schestowitz Feb 15 19:43
sebsebsebschestowitz:  Feb 15 20:11
schestowitzqu1j0t3: https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/169860928492408832?iid=am-91760041513293347547385971&nid=6+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Feb 15 20:15
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz: Bill Gates Experiments on the Poor to Help Drug Monopolies He Invests in Become Richer http://t.co/efxP5i8H #billgates #monopoly #gskFeb 15 20:15
TechrightsSocial@: Feb 15 20:15
schestowitzsebsebseb: yoFeb 15 20:15
qu1j0t3schestowitz: yeahFeb 15 20:15
schestowitzI keep accumulating examplesFeb 15 20:22
schestowitzat some stage they cannot just approach the critic and pretend that insufficient evidence exists, they just let the truth be heardFeb 15 20:23
schestowitzBill Gates is Constant GardenerFeb 15 20:23
qu1j0t3lolFeb 15 20:24
qu1j0t3truFeb 15 20:24
qu1j0t3schestowitz: another tactic. http://www.salon.com/2012/02/14/an_offensive_advocate_for_lgbt_rights/Feb 15 20:27
qu1j0t3schestowitz: by treating criminals as non-criminals, we normalise crime.Feb 15 20:27
TechrightsSocialTitle: An offensive advocate for LGBT rights -   Wall Street - Salon.com .::. Size~: 145.09 KBFeb 15 20:27
qu1j0t3schestowitz: for example, Henry Kissinger did a cameo in the Bobby Fischer documentary BF Against The WorldFeb 15 20:27
schestowitz[20:27] <qu1j0t3> schestowitz: by treating criminals as non-criminals, we normalise crime.Feb 15 20:33
schestowitznice sayingFeb 15 20:33
schestowitzanother thing that occurred to me on Friday isFeb 15 20:33
schestowitzthe reason we keep calling CHina "thieves" and "pirates" is because it helps us justify our exploitation of themFeb 15 20:34
schestowitzOr put different, our robbery of their lives and theft of their youthFeb 15 20:34
schestowitzqu1j0t3: Kissinger is still collecting new medalsFeb 15 20:35
schestowitzAnd many top bankers earn higher bonuses than ever beforeFeb 15 20:35
qu1j0t3schestowitz: it's been said that the Nixon pardon poisoned the wellFeb 15 20:38
qu1j0t3basically declared that nothing was offlimits to the executiveFeb 15 20:38
schestowitzso appallingFeb 15 20:39
schestowitzbut I think society was always corruptFeb 15 20:39
schestowitzso maybe there's a cynical POV to all this...Feb 15 20:40
schestowitzqu1j0t3: good news... I think there might be a wedding this year or next yearFeb 15 20:40
schestowitzWith one who also appreciates a bit of activismFeb 15 20:40
qu1j0t3schestowitz: wait, you're...?Feb 15 20:44
schestowitzwhat?Feb 15 20:44
schestowitzno engagement yet, but we speak about irFeb 15 20:45
schestowitz*itFeb 15 20:45
schestowitzqu1j0t3: we've only known each other for 2-3 months... http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/r-d.pngFeb 15 21:19
TechrightsSocialNot a web page! Aborting image/png typeFeb 15 21:19
qu1j0t3schestowitz: wow, congrats :)Feb 15 21:20
schestowitzeveryone in my family loves her, so...Feb 15 21:21
qu1j0t3schestowitz: wonderful newsFeb 15 21:23
schestowitzshe's really sweet. Says I look like prince William, I've just ordered flowers for her an hour agoFeb 15 23:49
schestowitzHeh. When her friends first met me she said to her privately, "he looks like superman" LOLFeb 15 23:50

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