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| schestowitz | I was a bit bored today, so I went through yet another old album that I | Feb 19 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | had scanned and clipped a few photos out: my mom, dad, and grandpa. I don't think I've posted any photos of them, only my dad's. In one photo (not the one where my dad is a lot younger, around 16) perhaps people can see the similarity to me. | Feb 19 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | " | Feb 19 08:25 |
| schestowitz | > *By now, most people probably think of you as a free-thinker. Unbound by | Feb 19 08:25 |
| schestowitz | > convention, a bit of an odd ball that operates on a different level | Feb 19 08:25 |
| schestowitz | > than others and possibly a bit of a rebel.* | Feb 19 08:25 |
| schestowitz | Yes, but being different does not mean being wrong. In fact, society only ever moves forward because of the "odd balls" who bring about changed. | Feb 19 08:25 |
| schestowitz | " | Feb 19 08:25 |
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| schestowitz | This morning was nice and sunny (although cold), so I went to the Midland Hotel and worked on improving my situps score. I raised it successfully from 107 to 122 (situps in 120 seconds). This ought to be enough for 1st place (the said 107 should be enough too) and what's surprising is that I was a little ill yesterday; that didn't do enough damage to overall performance, not even the lack of appetite. | Feb 19 15:47 |
| schestowitz | Later in the day I went cycling to Media City ( http://www.mediacityuk.co.uk/ ) where the atmosphere was fantastic. I wrote 7 articles there. Afterwards I spent some time at the pool, sleeping or napping for about half an hour and then off to the sauna. I was trying to gather all sorts of ideas. | Feb 19 15:49 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Welcome | MediaCityUK .::. Size~: 16.78 KB | Feb 19 15:49 |
| qu1j0t3 | o | Feb 19 16:00 |
| schestowitz | "Bazinga. " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1315239 | Feb 19 16:24 |
| TechrightsSocial | @: | Feb 19 16:24 |
| schestowitz | ""What do politicians and diapers have in common?" "Both need to be changed on a regular basis - for pretty much the same reason." ;) " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1315239 | Feb 19 16:24 |
| TechrightsSocial | @: | Feb 19 16:24 |
| schestowitz | Classic saying :-) | Feb 19 16:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | but nobody acts on it | Feb 19 16:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | doesn't deal with root causes | Feb 19 16:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's like saying "the solution to microsoft is to reboot daily" | Feb 19 16:27 |
| schestowitz | some linux sites have gone very quiet | Feb 19 16:28 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/90832402 | Feb 19 16:28 |
| TechrightsSocial | @Sander (sandersch)'s status on Sunday, 19-Feb-12 16:23:14 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz maybe it has been bought like linuxfordevices. | Feb 19 16:28 |
| schestowitz | tuxmachines is now quiet | Feb 19 16:28 |
| schestowitz | Linux increasingly becomes companies like IBM and Amazon (servers) and Google (mobile) | Feb 19 16:29 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/90783878 | Feb 19 16:37 |
| TechrightsSocial | @Bradley M. Kuhn (bkuhn)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-12 14:34:21 UTC - Identi.ca: @mlinksva, old version of my bio. I say "software freedom movement" now. I do not worship the pasta deity. #SFM have #namespacecollision? | Feb 19 16:37 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/90784514 | Feb 19 16:37 |
| TechrightsSocial | @Christopher Allan Webber (cwebber)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-12 14:52:55 UTC - Identi.ca: #FSM vs #SFM ... "Free Software Movement" collides, "Software Freedom Movement" does not | Feb 19 16:37 |
| schestowitz | Here is the film I watched a week ago at the hotel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unknown_%282011_film%29 too much like fiction, they pretend they can just plant an identity in a person's mind | Feb 19 16:39 |
| TechrightsSocial | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 403 Forbidden | Feb 19 16:39 |
| schestowitz | but most viewers won't mind what's plausible and what's not | Feb 19 16:39 |
| schestowitz | Miami, Floria, is where most of my family in the US is from, although some are spread in other states. Miami has lovely weather, but its universities are not great (for my fleld anyway).I ckecked them many times before. Earlier today my uncle in Florida asked me if I wanna move there | Feb 19 18:15 |
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| qu1j0t3 | ugh | Feb 19 18:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | last place on earth i'd want to live | Feb 19 18:56 |
| schestowitz | FL or US as a whole? | Feb 19 19:00 |
| qu1j0t3 | either, but FL is about as horrible as it gets | Feb 19 19:12 |
| schestowitz | depends which part | Feb 19 19:15 |
| schestowitz | some of them are like south americ a | Feb 19 19:15 |
| schestowitz | and you'd better know espanol :-) | Feb 19 19:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | nah, FL is just awful. | Feb 19 19:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | are you considering moving there? | Feb 19 19:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | if you want south america then move to south america -- miami is no substitute. | Feb 19 19:16 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Pls move to Canad if you do! | Feb 19 20:04 |
| XFaCE | (if you do move) | Feb 19 20:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | going downhill though XFaCE | Feb 19 20:08 |
| XFaCE | qu1j0t3: yeah, I guess is it | Feb 19 20:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | until we get rid of this plague | Feb 19 20:09 |
| XFaCE | By the time Roy actually moves, it may be "move to Quebec!" | Feb 19 20:09 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes. :/ | Feb 19 20:09 |
| qu1j0t3 | but Canada is still 1000x better than Florida | Feb 19 20:09 |
| XFaCE | I'd rather Alberta would seperate | Feb 19 20:09 |
| XFaCE | Imagine our environmental rating | Feb 19 20:09 |
| qu1j0t3 | pity we can't sink it. | Feb 19 20:09 |
| qu1j0t3 | what a raging tumour | Feb 19 20:09 |
| schestowitz | Canada will fall if the US does | Feb 19 20:11 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: The world will too | Feb 19 20:14 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: sure. we're too close to a failed state. | Feb 19 20:20 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: yes | Feb 19 20:26 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: qu1j0t3: what will it be like in 10 years? | Feb 19 20:27 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Dogs will walk their owners! | Feb 19 20:32 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Computers will type on their owners! | Feb 19 20:33 |
| XFaCE | Tablets will touch people! | Feb 19 20:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: I won't be here | Feb 19 20:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: but unless harper is stopped, it'll be a horrible mess | Feb 19 20:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | harper *and his kind* | Feb 19 20:34 |
| schestowitz | he looks like a globalist to me | Feb 19 20:37 |
| XFaCE | qu1j0t3: yeap | Feb 19 20:37 |
| schestowitz | enough to take order from BillG and fellow owners of the planet | Feb 19 20:37 |
| schestowitz | 瑨灴⼺椯敤瑮慣港瑯捩⽥〹㐸㔲㜳 | Feb 19 20:38 |
| schestowitz | oops | Feb 19 20:42 |
| schestowitz | I was gonna paste some canada link over from the other machine (synergy) | Feb 19 20:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: of course he is | Feb 19 20:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: he just visited china | Feb 19 20:43 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: I think it's always senseible to keep in mind an escape route - for job, land, etc. (family - not applicable, cannot change that) | Feb 19 20:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: to collect notes on how to screw canadian rights | Feb 19 20:43 |
| schestowitz | job creator | Feb 19 20:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: i'm way ahead of you there :) | Feb 19 20:43 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Feb 19 20:43 |
| schestowitz | you left aussie - why? | Feb 19 20:43 |
| schestowitz | A friend of mine moved back there recently, with the kids and wife | Feb 19 20:44 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: one reason was Howard goverment (supporter of Iraq). | Feb 19 20:44 |
| qu1j0t3 | then shortly after arriving here, Harper was elected. I can't get a break from conservative assholes. | Feb 19 20:44 |
| schestowitz | he gets paid twice as much there, maybe due to floods requiring civil engineers | Feb 19 20:44 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: so where would you go next? | Feb 19 20:44 |
| qu1j0t3 | i have plans. | Feb 19 20:44 |
| qu1j0t3 | no point in being too specific on irc. | Feb 19 20:45 |
| schestowitz | and also, traveling much is not easy, passing bank accounts, making new friends, job, etc. | Feb 19 20:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | sure, but i've emigrated once, and i know i'll be doing it again. | Feb 19 20:45 |
| schestowitz | how long ago? | Feb 19 20:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: another reason was -- 35 years in Aust was nough | Feb 19 20:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | enough* | Feb 19 20:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | Aust is very isolated. | Feb 19 20:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's a psychological reality there | Feb 19 20:45 |
| schestowitz | many people from n. american want to move TO aussie | Feb 19 20:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | yeah, haha, well. | Feb 19 20:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | i know why, but w/e | Feb 19 20:46 |
| qu1j0t3 | they're trying to escape their own failures, for one thing | Feb 19 20:46 |
| qu1j0t3 | "oh, we broke our country" | Feb 19 20:46 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Feb 19 20:46 |
| schestowitz | no | Feb 19 20:46 |
| schestowitz | they blame others | Feb 19 20:46 |
| qu1j0t3 | the funniest thing to hear though is that many immigrants to the US are leaving -- their home countries are more aattractive now. | Feb 19 20:46 |
| schestowitz | it's never their own fault | Feb 19 20:46 |
| qu1j0t3 | right. | Feb 19 20:46 |
| schestowitz | someone broke it for them (the "mexicans" or "bush" or "bankers") | Feb 19 20:47 |
| schestowitz | is tony manco still in TO? | Feb 19 20:47 |
| schestowitz | Really? Any reason? | Feb 19 20:48 |
| qu1j0t3 | don't know | Feb 19 20:48 |
| schestowitz | oops | Feb 19 20:48 |
| schestowitz | never mind, wrong windows | Feb 19 20:48 |
| qu1j0t3 | windows is always wrong | Feb 19 20:48 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Feb 19 20:48 |
| schestowitz | the typos too | Feb 19 20:49 |
| schestowitz | people who leave the US say try Canada | Feb 19 20:49 |
| schestowitz | and everyone points in another direction | Feb 19 20:49 |
| schestowitz | For me, I can make fresh starts while I'm still young | Feb 19 20:49 |
| schestowitz | had a chat with a cab driver Friday, he's very pessimistic | Feb 19 20:49 |
| qu1j0t3 | north america is a basketcase, really | Feb 19 20:50 |
| schestowitz | I told him about the uk edu going to go down the river with the fees fiascoi | Feb 19 20:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | the only reason people end up here is they believed the hype | Feb 19 20:50 |
| schestowitz | which impacts my occupation too | Feb 19 20:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | i liked the old Canada, Trudeau's Canada | Feb 19 20:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | but it's being dismantled | Feb 19 20:50 |
| schestowitz | although the European Research Council funds me till 2015 if I stay here | Feb 19 20:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | a Just Society isn't profitable enoguh for the plutocracy | Feb 19 20:50 |
| schestowitz | in fact, today I write a 15-page report | Feb 19 20:51 |
| schestowitz | in cansda? | Feb 19 20:51 |
| schestowitz | plutocrats? | Feb 19 20:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | yeah, no shit? | Feb 19 20:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | hello, Harper? | Feb 19 20:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | have you forgotten the G20? | Feb 19 20:51 |
| schestowitz | but to what extent? | Feb 19 20:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | how about "taken over Federal government" ? | Feb 19 20:51 |
| schestowitz | Are they controlling politics like in the US? | Feb 19 20:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | of course. | Feb 19 20:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: same as Western Europe and the UK... | Feb 19 20:51 |
| schestowitz | ah, then it's a coup, move on | Feb 19 20:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: why would you think it's any different here? | Feb 19 20:51 |
| schestowitz | maybe scandinavia | Feb 19 20:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: for now, perhaps | Feb 19 20:52 |
| schestowitz | do you have a european nationality? | Feb 19 20:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: canadian media will fill in the blanks for you | Feb 19 20:52 |
| schestowitz | I think your wife can get one | Feb 19 20:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | she doesn't need a visa, at least... | Feb 19 20:52 |
| schestowitz | the return through france/italy, claiming citizenship is sometimes possible | Feb 19 20:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | i tried to get a job in Europe in 2010, failed | Feb 19 20:53 |
| schestowitz | I remember | Feb 19 20:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | we're maybe committed here while she does her degree | Feb 19 20:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | we shall see | Feb 19 20:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | she's not much interested in living in Europe, but i would | Feb 19 20:53 |
| schestowitz | my g/f did computer science degree, hardly used it | Feb 19 20:53 |
| schestowitz | those degrees are becoming too abundant | Feb 19 20:53 |
| schestowitz | the graduates have too little work experience | Feb 19 20:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | it would have been helpful for me | Feb 19 20:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | but i skipped on mine, never started it | Feb 19 20:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | was too young ot understand it was important | Feb 19 20:54 |
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| schestowitz | stereotypes help sell degrees | Feb 19 20:55 |
| schestowitz | the notion that dropouts are less capable | Feb 19 20:55 |
| schestowitz | unless they buy reputation like you-know-who | Feb 19 20:55 |
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| qu1j0t3 | i don't have that kind of money :) | Feb 19 20:59 |
| schestowitz | money doesn't matter much if you manage to do what you like | Feb 19 21:10 |
| schestowitz | happiness flattens when you meet some basic needs | Feb 19 21:10 |
| qu1j0t3 | i've done the math, schestowitz. | Feb 19 21:10 |
| schestowitz | which to most people in the world (Western world) are hard to meet | Feb 19 21:10 |
| schestowitz | But in the West, the poorest people have a living standard higher than kings many hundreds of years ago, it's all relative | Feb 19 21:11 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: every generation post-baby boom is screwed, more than the previous. starting with mine. | Feb 19 21:11 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: (talking abotu the West) | Feb 19 21:11 |
| schestowitz | you're fairly ok | Feb 19 21:11 |
| schestowitz | for me it's not the worst, either | Feb 19 21:11 |
| schestowitz | cause I have many years og job experience | Feb 19 21:12 |
| schestowitz | the screwed up jilted generation is that which protests | Feb 19 21:12 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: i'm at an age now where it's getting very weird to work with companies that are ALL 20-something. | Feb 19 21:12 |
| qu1j0t3 | trust me, that's a challenge. | Feb 19 21:12 |
| qu1j0t3 | they don't know how to deal with experience, at all. | Feb 19 21:12 |
| schestowitz | the ones who can't afford university in the UK and would be thankful for /any/ job | Feb 19 21:12 |
| qu1j0t3 | they, uh, have no expeirence of it. | Feb 19 21:12 |
| schestowitz | there's the young thet that has a high self image | Feb 19 21:13 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes I think, given a class of some very ambitious young people who don't demand much, I'd be able to raise and set up a good lab | Feb 19 21:14 |
| schestowitz | but the problem is, | Feb 19 21:14 |
| schestowitz | if you go to places where labour if cheap, then grands or VC are hard to get | Feb 19 21:14 |
| schestowitz | Maybe unless you try Singapore or something | Feb 19 21:15 |
| schestowitz | In universities here there are hardly any openings for lecturer positions or above, it's just too competitive, people tend to say. | Feb 19 21:15 |
| schestowitz | this gets me back to the earlier question | Feb 19 21:16 |
| schestowitz | what happens in 10 years? | Feb 19 21:16 |
| schestowitz | and where will it be more like Detroit? | Feb 19 21:16 |
| schestowitz | Or Bristol? | Feb 19 21:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | http://www.quora.com/Is-the-story-about-McDonalds-inventing-a-prawn-based-meal-but-abandoning-it-due-to-them-forecasting-they-could-make-prawns-extinct-true/answer/Toby-Thain | Feb 19 21:18 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Toby Thain's answer to Is the story about McDonalds inventing a prawn based meal but abandoning it due to them forecasting they could make prawns extinct true? - Quora .::. Size~: 37.64 KB | Feb 19 21:18 |
| schestowitz | Generally speaking, over the past few years I'd sometimes spent many hours just quietly thinking as though there's good use to just making those predictions in one's mind and figuring out what will be doomed in x years and what it likely to be worth kjumping on. People provide different data based on their biases | Feb 19 21:18 |
| qu1j0t3 | live where you enjoy living. | Feb 19 21:18 |
| qu1j0t3 | the 10 year projections are only useful re things like personal finances. | Feb 19 21:18 |
| schestowitz | When you say Canada is kaput I'm not sure it's quiet fair, I mean, look how much of Asia's wealthy people flock to Canada and build it, e.g. in Vancouver | Feb 19 21:18 |
| qu1j0t3 | but regarding USA, the simple fact of their gun non-laws is a deal breaker. | Feb 19 21:19 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: why would you wnat to live in FL and be surrounded by concealed carry maniacs, raised on Dirty Harry, like DaemonFC? | Feb 19 21:19 |
| schestowitz | the US is ruining itself | Feb 19 21:19 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: that's an utter deal breaker, apart form anything else. | Feb 19 21:19 |
| schestowitz | depends where | Feb 19 21:19 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: Canada is kaput unless it can rid itself of Harper conservatism. | Feb 19 21:19 |
| schestowitz | not gainsville | Feb 19 21:19 |
| schestowitz | more like Miami Beach | Feb 19 21:19 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: trust me on this. it's much worse than you think. | Feb 19 21:19 |
| schestowitz | Davie, Hallandale | Feb 19 21:19 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: you'd have to study Canadian media to get a perspective on how bad Harper is. | Feb 19 21:20 |
| schestowitz | It's like a gated community, figuratively-speaking | Feb 19 21:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: he's a petty dictator, a sociopath; a very dangerous individual. | Feb 19 21:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: a gated community in the USA is literally th elast place on earth i'd wantt o be. | Feb 19 21:20 |
| schestowitz | so are many other Western leaders | Feb 19 21:20 |
| schestowitz | but where would you go? | Feb 19 21:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | if your gf thinks that is a good idea -- then, i'm sorry.. | Feb 19 21:20 |
| schestowitz | You evaded the question earlier, IIRC | Feb 19 21:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's not a very useful question. how much have you travelled? | Feb 19 21:21 |
| schestowitz | USA was a no-go long ago | Feb 19 21:21 |
| schestowitz | after Clinton | Feb 19 21:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: yes. | Feb 19 21:21 |
| schestowitz | and the tech/dot net bubble | Feb 19 21:21 |
| schestowitz | for techies at least | Feb 19 21:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: personally, i'd be happy to live in most of Western Europe. | Feb 19 21:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: or South Amrica | Feb 19 21:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: and a few other places | Feb 19 21:21 |
| schestowitz | Western Europe=UK | Feb 19 21:21 |
| schestowitz | for english speakers | Feb 19 21:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: CEntral America, or Mexico, too. [don't believe all the hype about Mexico] | Feb 19 21:21 |
| schestowitz | I have a friend who lives there | Feb 19 21:22 |
| schestowitz | interesting lad | Feb 19 21:22 |
| schestowitz | programmer | Feb 19 21:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: 'd rather not live in UK -- western/southern europe is appealing. | Feb 19 21:22 |
| schestowitz | freelancer | Feb 19 21:22 |
| schestowitz | does OK | Feb 19 21:22 |
| schestowitz | His failed marriage took him down | Feb 19 21:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: not that guy who came into techrights? | Feb 19 21:22 |
| schestowitz | depressed to death | Feb 19 21:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: does he live in Yucatan -- mErida? | Feb 19 21:22 |
| schestowitz | found a new wife in Mexico, has kids, simple life | Feb 19 21:22 |
| schestowitz | the old wife ran off with his kids to NZ | Feb 19 21:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | oh wait, the guy i'm talking about was mexican | Feb 19 21:22 |
| schestowitz | no | Feb 19 21:22 |
| schestowitz | xalapa | Feb 19 21:23 |
| schestowitz | no | Feb 19 21:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: well, yes, mexico or central america is an option | Feb 19 21:23 |
| schestowitz | he's DUTCH | Feb 19 21:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | but still a bit too close to USA | Feb 19 21:23 |
| schestowitz | And won't go back to .nl | Feb 19 21:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | heh | Feb 19 21:23 |
| schestowitz | His first wife trashed him royally | Feb 19 21:23 |
| schestowitz | Esme seems to have given me an example of what guys need to find in a spouse | Feb 19 21:24 |
| schestowitz | He's happier with her | Feb 19 21:24 |
| schestowitz | simple life | Feb 19 21:24 |
| schestowitz | neighbours don't drive Mercedes | Feb 19 21:24 |
| schestowitz | besides, he's seen as special for what he is (giant Dutchman in Mexico), now what he "owned" | Feb 19 21:25 |
| schestowitz | In the West we've been brainwashed into worshipping people not based on what they are as people, and I guess it's further perpetuated by TV and peers | Feb 19 21:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | right, it's a less materialistic culture -- the original culture. | Feb 19 21:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | of course hollywood has fucked over everyone's culture, but you have to ignore those people infected by that | Feb 19 21:26 |
| schestowitz | [21:26] <qu1j0t3> right, it's a less materialistic culture -- the original culture. | Feb 19 21:26 |
| schestowitz | What are you doing in IRC? :-) | Feb 19 21:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: the materialism of the west means i have to leave it eventually | Feb 19 21:26 |
| schestowitz | Go do some work | Feb 19 21:26 |
| schestowitz | make money, be something !! :-D | Feb 19 21:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: i've been studying | Feb 19 21:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: my job isn't sufficiently intellectually stimulating, that's for sure | Feb 19 21:27 |
| schestowitz | repetitive? | Feb 19 21:27 |
| schestowitz | well, if it pays enough and doesn't take up many hours, keep it | Feb 19 21:27 |
| schestowitz | just don't be a gadget | Feb 19 21:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's full time. | Feb 19 21:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | don't get me started... | Feb 19 21:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | anybody in full time work is a cog, unlesss they're extraorindarily lucky | Feb 19 21:28 |
| XFaCE | You know what I hate? People you make the dumb assertion that remastered footage should be fitted for widescreen TVs | Feb 19 21:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's pervese | Feb 19 21:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's perverse | Feb 19 21:28 |
| schestowitz | I don't mind doing simple things if they're easy money, but my main job is always very unique and open-ended, published and distributed under my credit. I have a friend who works over 60 hours a week doing ***-all | Feb 19 21:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: right | Feb 19 21:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: when it comes to work, it seems a major factor is dumb luck | Feb 19 21:29 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: it's not that my work is SIMPLE... | Feb 19 21:29 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: heh, also pervasive | Feb 19 21:29 |
| schestowitz | and invasive | Feb 19 21:29 |
| schestowitz | invades eevrything | Feb 19 21:29 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes. | Feb 19 21:29 |
| schestowitz | Work is Not Great. How Work... | Feb 19 21:29 |
| qu1j0t3 | i've been doing it a damn long time | Feb 19 21:29 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Feb 19 21:29 |
| qu1j0t3 | i see clearly now that work is a scam perpetrated on us | Feb 19 21:30 |
| schestowitz | I had two full-time jobs | Feb 19 21:30 |
| qu1j0t3 | the way it's structured | Feb 19 21:30 |
| schestowitz | like, 40 hours a week | Feb 19 21:30 |
| schestowitz | once when I was 16 | Feb 19 21:30 |
| schestowitz | and again at 19 | Feb 19 21:30 |
| schestowitz | 2 months each | Feb 19 21:30 |
| schestowitz | it was hard to find good time slots for exercise | Feb 19 21:30 |
| schestowitz | diety was **** | Feb 19 21:30 |
| schestowitz | *diet | Feb 19 21:30 |
| schestowitz | in some countries you should be able to work less and make ends meet | Feb 19 21:31 |
| schestowitz | esp. if they let you work remotely | Feb 19 21:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | that's right, it's arbitrary | Feb 19 21:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | same w/ conditions | Feb 19 21:32 |
| schestowitz | one colleague of mine (former colleague) tried to work in the UK from China | Feb 19 21:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | it makes the China situation all the more outrageous | Feb 19 21:32 |
| schestowitz | 5 times the standard wage | Feb 19 21:32 |
| schestowitz | and working from home, in China | Feb 19 21:32 |
| schestowitz | People neglect to account for the value of time left to oneself | Feb 19 21:33 |
| schestowitz | unless they take some very expensive vacation, in which case they merely BUY time for themselves | Feb 19 21:33 |
| schestowitz | otherwise, this time should be free | Feb 19 21:33 |
| schestowitz | humans are the only species that pays to live in this planet | Feb 19 21:34 |
| schestowitz | and need to work under threat (except hunger) | Feb 19 21:34 |
| schestowitz | it's the "civilisation species", forget about communes | Feb 19 21:34 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: anyway, no going going to simpler life in SAmerica unless you already speak the language. That's why I'd never consider it, it's probably just not the area of expansion anyway | Feb 19 21:36 |
| qu1j0t3 | I do speak the language. | Feb 19 21:36 |
| qu1j0t3 | but i've also travelled enough to know whether or not local languages are an obstacle. | Feb 19 21:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | i came to canada for a job | Feb 19 21:37 |
| schestowitz | and for Labour | Feb 19 21:38 |
| schestowitz | You got Conservatives | Feb 19 21:38 |
| qu1j0t3 | heh | Feb 19 21:38 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes, awful luck | Feb 19 21:38 |
| XFaCE | qu1j0t3: More like lack of voting | Feb 19 21:45 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.betabeat.com/2012/02/15/scroogle-may-have-been-a-victim-of-hackers-not-google/ | Feb 19 22:49 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Scroogle May Have Been a Victim of Hackers, Not Google | Betabeat — News, gossip and intel from Silicon Alley 2.0. .::. Size~: 34 KB | Feb 19 22:49 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/02/14/scroogle_down/ | Feb 19 22:49 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Scroogle: Dear Google, we're not bots, we're HUMAN • The Register .::. Size~: 25.43 KB | Feb 19 22:49 |
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| qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: well, awful luck for me. | Feb 19 23:03 |
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| qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: but i am not convinced that voter turnout is the problem | Feb 19 23:03 |
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| qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: countries with mandatory voting (Australia) elect the same kind of asshole | Feb 19 23:03 |
| qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: ...more than once. | Feb 19 23:03 |
| XFaCE | qu1j0t3: ick | Feb 19 23:03 |
| XFaCE | proportional representation would help | Feb 19 23:03 |
| qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: Harper and Howard are birds ofa feather. | Feb 19 23:03 |
| qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: Harper would have taken Canada into Iraq. | Feb 19 23:04 |
| XFaCE | qu1j0t3: ugh | Feb 19 23:11 |
| XFaCE | And he will take us into Iran | Feb 19 23:11 |
| XFaCE | So we're just delaying the inevitiable | Feb 19 23:11 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes, his 'ministers' have long been propagandising about Iran. | Feb 19 23:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: it's hard to believe you don't know Harper is hardwired into the plutocracy | Feb 19 23:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: G20. | Feb 19 23:15 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: the whole moving thing is very important right now to me | Feb 19 23:26 |
| schestowitz | I am talking daily with the g/f about where we'd want to move | Feb 19 23:27 |
| schestowitz | maybe by end of this year, it's not about money | Feb 19 23:27 |
| schestowitz | I reckon at the end it's about family, culture, etc. | Feb 19 23:27 |
| schestowitz | Canada sort of out of the question -- too far | Feb 19 23:28 |
| schestowitz | also, based on what you, ender, and XFaCE say, Toronto isn't all that | Feb 19 23:28 |
| schestowitz | v. close to the US, similar culture, probably will suffer along with the US | Feb 19 23:28 |
| schestowitz | Did you see reports about that guy who want to cross niagra falls from the US to Canada or vice versa on a rope? | Feb 19 23:29 |
| abeNd-org | n.korea, that is nothing like the states, you should be able to say anything you want there ;) | Feb 19 23:32 |
| schestowitz | meh, no thanks | Feb 19 23:32 |
| schestowitz | where 1 in 3 people is in the military too | Feb 19 23:32 |
| abeNd-org | cuba then? | Feb 19 23:32 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: I think I did, the rope guy | Feb 19 23:33 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Come to Ottawa! | Feb 19 23:33 |
| schestowitz | like 10 million people, army against... who knows what... amine? | Feb 19 23:33 |
| schestowitz | *famine | Feb 19 23:33 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: To be fair though Toronto <> American culture | Feb 19 23:33 |
| XFaCE | =/ | Feb 19 23:33 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: too far from everywhere | Feb 19 23:33 |
| schestowitz | British is in Greenwich | Feb 19 23:33 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: not as much as you think | Feb 19 23:33 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Montreal isn't that far | Feb 19 23:34 |
| XFaCE | and other places aren't either | Feb 19 23:34 |
| schestowitz | coincidentally at the centre... or wait, that's all in reverse :-) cause and effect | Feb 19 23:34 |
| XFaCE | Otttawa is nice | Feb 19 23:34 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: GMT is a Canadian thing btw | Feb 19 23:34 |
| XFaCE | timezones, all that | Feb 19 23:34 |
| XFaCE | bbl | Feb 19 23:34 |
| XFaCE | supper | Feb 19 23:34 |
| schestowitz | Canada is very cold and who knows what it'll be like in 10 years... I need to ask around | Feb 19 23:35 |
| schestowitz | also, there's no university there that's proponent in my field | Feb 19 23:35 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: Canada's not as cold as you think. | Feb 19 23:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: it's a bit of a myth | Feb 19 23:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: northrn canada, sure. but the southern cities are not cold. | Feb 19 23:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: 4 cold months, that's all, here. | Feb 19 23:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: Toronto isn't so similar to the US, either. | Feb 19 23:38 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: it depends what you're looking for. | Feb 19 23:38 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: Toronto is a city of immigrants; it's gay friendly; safe; cultured. | Feb 19 23:38 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: but, it is hard to 'get into' | Feb 19 23:38 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: i don't think it's right for you & gf. | Feb 19 23:39 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: there are many good options | Feb 19 23:39 |
| schestowitz | got this video that shows views from the area near my house. | Feb 19 23:40 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byHF5iBn7AQ | Feb 19 23:40 |
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| schestowitz | the economy has not totally collapsed here yet | Feb 19 23:41 |
| schestowitz | This is kind of crap http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V_afEQ1Ywg&NR=1&feature=fvwp | Feb 19 23:42 |
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| schestowitz | some channel at the Midland Hotel always has a tour going in a loop for guests, but it doesn't do the city justice, except the fact it rarely shows the rain | Feb 19 23:50 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: just like CA has the cold weather stereotype Manchester had the rain stereotype, even though it doesn't rain here more than in many other places. In fact, today was sunny. | Feb 19 23:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: hehe | Feb 19 23:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: well i don't mind, it keeps the Yanks out! | Feb 19 23:51 |
| schestowitz | Texas has a stereotype of extreme heat, California sunshine (the state uses that for marketing) | Feb 19 23:51 |
| schestowitz | Florida | Feb 19 23:51 |
| schestowitz | Where you get RAIN IN SUMMER | Feb 19 23:51 |
| schestowitz | But don't tell the tourists, put your shades on and call it a sunshine state | Feb 19 23:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | they got snow last winter... | Feb 19 23:52 |
| schestowitz | I guess for many people, given the dynamics of the economy, it's time to start planning more. I was thinking further about where and how, I also spoke to friends of mine about it (for hours because it's an important subject)... I reckon the English-speaking world will implode and the few plutocrats it produced will defect to kingdoms overseas | Feb 19 23:54 |
| schestowitz | they robbed the Eest | Feb 19 23:54 |
| schestowitz | *West | Feb 19 23:54 |
| schestowitz | and they need something new to feed on | Feb 19 23:54 |
| schestowitz | There's no recession, there's robbery | Feb 19 23:54 |
| schestowitz | they robbed Greece, and by extension PIGS (Portugal, Ireland, Greece, Spain) | Feb 19 23:55 |
| schestowitz | BRIC is already exploited | Feb 19 23:55 |
| schestowitz | Countries that stayed out of the EU are doing well | Feb 19 23:55 |
| schestowitz | Switzerland, Scandinavia, others keep very high GDP, no talk about recession there ever, except Iceland | Feb 19 23:56 |
| schestowitz | IIRC, you tries moving to .ch | Feb 19 23:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: one of the perks of wealth is you are borderless. immigration is mainly to keep poor people out. | Feb 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | I could possibly move there, my late grandma and her family are from there, still lots of family in Zurich... I used to travel there every year. | Feb 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | Switzerland has poverty too | Feb 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | and drunks | Feb 19 23:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: i already wanted to move to Zürich, that was where I interviewed. | Feb 19 23:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: i'd love to live there for a while | Feb 19 23:59 |
| schestowitz | Esp. in the big cities, it's commonly assume Zuroch has a good lifestyle for everyon | Feb 19 23:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's a cosmopolitan city. | Feb 19 23:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | i saw the HUGE gay pride march there. | Feb 19 23:59 |
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