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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1322473Feb 21 00:57
TechrightsSocialNot a Diaspora post?Feb 21 00:57
qu1j0t3reshare?Feb 21 01:17
schestowitzprhapsFeb 21 01:22
qu1j0t3schestowitz: i'll have to look into that.Feb 21 01:44
qu1j0t3it's a reshareFeb 21 01:44
qu1j0t3schestowitz: will probably have to get clever with their api, as the page itself has no textFeb 21 01:44
qu1j0t3schestowitz: DaemonFC's state. http://twitter.com/ednamessick/status/171774318261444608Feb 21 01:58
TechrightsSocial@ednamessick: Indiana lawmaker accuses Girl Scouts of promoting sex, says group is a ‘tactical arm’ of Planned Parenthood http://t.co/dliy1609Feb 21 01:58
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qu1j0t3schestowitz: http://twitter.com/EmergentCulture/status/171779715496022016Feb 21 02:16
TechrightsSocial@EmergentCulture: Spanish police brutalize student protesters in Valencia http://t.co/UYEsqJKP #owsFeb 21 02:16
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schestowitzqu1j0t3: `http://twitter.com/directhex/statuses/171770173492178944Feb 21 08:29
TechrightsSocial@directhex: I wonder if this guy has some kind of angry brain tumour eating away at his logic center. http://t.co/TZUexpKkFeb 21 08:29
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schestowitzsee what mono bullies say about daemonFCFeb 21 08:29
schestowitzhow viciousFeb 21 08:29
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oiaohmdaemonFC at least can take it as not alone.  You should look at what they called RMS when he called them out.Feb 21 08:31
oiaohmYes I know RMS can be a ass but still.Feb 21 08:31
oiaohmschestowitz: http://apebox.org/wordpress/rants/352/  This is why I don't trust the mono guys.Feb 21 08:37
TechrightsSocialTitle: APEBOX.ORG  » Archive   » The phantom fifth freedom .::. Size~: 49.15 KBFeb 21 08:37
oiaohmThey don't see that the protection for patents is required so users can do the freedom 2 and 3.Feb 21 08:38
oiaohmThey call it a phantom 5 freedom.Feb 21 08:38
schestowitzoiaohm: this one seems to have left mono aside for nowFeb 21 08:39
schestowitzmaybe appears rarely in ubuntu forums, stillFeb 21 08:39
schestowitzI once was told that the reason memory of our dreams degrades so quickly is so that we don't mix reality with fictionFeb 21 08:47
schestowitzis this true?Feb 21 08:47
oiaohmIn fact that is not true.Feb 21 08:48
oiaohmPeople will make up lies on the spot they have no explaination for.Feb 21 08:48
oiaohmWe live in a world of our own fiction.Feb 21 08:49
oiaohmNote if you have no explaination for something the lie your brain makes up you will believe as complete truth.Feb 21 08:49
oiaohmThis is why it pays to check for test results attempt to prove what you believe is false.Feb 21 08:50
oiaohmMain reason why dreams degrade unless they are the dreams that scare the crap out of you is that they never move to long term storage.Feb 21 08:51
oiaohmschestowitz: The same degrade happens ever day of the week all the time.  Like forgetting where you put your keys.Feb 21 08:51
oiaohmBecause where you put the keys never made it into long term memory.Feb 21 08:52
oiaohmschestowitz: rule of being human we believe lies and we forget almost everything.Feb 21 08:52
oiaohmschestowitz: Unless that item almost killed us.Feb 21 08:53
oiaohmschestowitz: there is a prity good LCA 2012 video on the topic if you want me to dig it up.Feb 21 08:54
schestowitzinteresting...Feb 21 08:55
schestowitzLCA?Feb 21 08:55
schestowitzWhat context?Feb 21 08:55
oiaohmLinux Conference AustraliaFeb 21 08:55
oiaohmIts about the only context of LCA I use schestowitzFeb 21 08:55
oiaohmWith a year.Feb 21 08:55
oiaohmschestowitz: Its a keynote Paul Fenwick  covering how we trick selfFeb 21 08:57
oiaohmhttp://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/linux.conf.au/2012/Keynote_Paul_Fenwick.ogvFeb 21 08:58
oiaohmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV1iUmDVsM4Feb 21 08:59
schestowitzI'm atching itFeb 21 09:00
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schestowitz"Feb 21 09:05
schestowitzI think it looks great as an addition to menus, but terrible as a replacement for them. The vast majority of items in menus, you can get to with two clicks using one hand on the mouse.Feb 21 09:05
schestowitzIt takes two hands (on the keyboard) normally to type and it looks like in most cases you're going to end up needing far more keypresses to get to an item. The HUD would be great for finding things, but for the large number of items that you use again and again (and currently can learn by muscle memory exactly where they are)?Feb 21 09:05
schestowitz"Feb 21 09:06
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1315203Feb 21 09:06
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1315203Feb 21 09:06
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Links 19/2/2012: Raspberry Pi Coming on Sale, HUD Interface Coming to Next Ubuntu http://techrights.org/2012/02/19/hud-interface/ #trFeb 21 09:06
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oiaohmschestowitz: Paul Fenwick is always a good person look for videos by.  They are always cool.Feb 21 09:11
oiaohmschestowitz: Most people moring patern is like playing tetris.Feb 21 09:15
schestowitzoiaohm: very good talk so farFeb 21 09:16
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schestowitzoiaohm: imposter effect is interestingFeb 21 09:24
schestowitzmany people in academia can be like thatFeb 21 09:24
schestowitze.g. when reviewing papersFeb 21 09:25
oiaohmLot there explain the MS only people as well.Feb 21 09:26
oiaohmWhen they don't know anything else MS has to be the best basically.Feb 21 09:26
schestowitzI love this talk, bookmarkedFeb 21 09:26
oiaohmschestowitz: the resouces for that talk are also good.Feb 21 09:27
oiaohmYou find that the LCA keynotes each year are always good.Feb 21 09:28
oiaohmSo if you don't have time to get to a LCA or watch the complete LCA you watch the keynotes.Feb 21 09:28
oiaohmhttp://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL98382D6677F8E2D4&feature=plcp  This years 4 you have seen 2.Feb 21 09:29
TechrightsSocialTitle: Keynotes       - YouTube .::. Size~: 36.74 KBFeb 21 09:29
oiaohmschestowitz: I gave you the ogv link as well.Feb 21 09:31
oiaohmschestowitz: Lot of the LCA keynotes are good to have on hand for that class where there is nothing to teach.Feb 21 09:31
oiaohmschestowitz: Or you are a mean bugger to media studies stutents.  If they cannot find errors in LCA videos they are not looking too hard.Feb 21 09:32
schestowitzNow I watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elRCAD3sPEk&feature=relmfuFeb 21 09:41
TechrightsSocialTitle: The Kernel Report - Jonathan Corbet       - YouTube .::. Size~: 99.75 KBFeb 21 09:41
schestowitzthe previous talk finishedFeb 21 09:41
schestowitz> Roy, in identi.ca I commented to your statement mentioning Bill Gates:Feb 21 09:46
schestowitz> Feb 21 09:46
schestowitz> Since then, Twitter no longer echoes my identi tweets. I have no errors or warnings. The fact I mentioned Bill Gates in a non-favorable way means they do censorship?Feb 21 09:46
schestowitzI think this must be a coincidence.Feb 21 09:46
MinceRyes, twitter does not censor tweets, just like they did not censor tweets critical of sarkomaFeb 21 09:50
schestowitzwho's that?Feb 21 09:50
MinceRsarkozyFeb 21 09:50
MinceRhttp://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120220/09252917815/twitter-suspends-four-accounts-critical-sarkozy-is-this-what-he-meant-civilizing-net.shtmlFeb 21 09:53
TechrightsSocialTitle: Twitter Suspends Four Accounts Critical of Sarkozy: Is This What He Meant By 'Civilizing' The Net? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 65.18 KBFeb 21 09:53
schestowitzDusty goes into bad language :/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrFJOxW7bkc&feature=digest_monFeb 21 13:10
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MinceR"bad language"? not understandable? ambiguous? :>Feb 21 13:11
MinceRnot conveying information? :>Feb 21 13:11
schestowitzRepels some audiences awayFeb 21 13:19
schestowitzThis new one too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MIlTGmjbxE&feature=digest_monFeb 21 13:19
TechrightsSocialTitle: Atheism Needs Women!       - YouTube .::. Size~: 149.33 KBFeb 21 13:19
schestowitzFunny thing is, he claims how geeky atheists drive away femalesFeb 21 13:19
schestowitzIn reality, I reckon it's more like people who speak like he does (inc. about women) that drive them awayFeb 21 13:19
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MinceRhttp://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/229/834/989.jpgFeb 21 14:09
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schestowitzLOLFeb 21 14:19
schestowitzMinceR: he could drop elop in it, that would clog up the abyssFeb 21 14:19
MinceR:>Feb 21 14:21
qu1j0t3schestowitz: in all honesty i've said similar things about DFC, historically ;)Feb 21 14:43
schestowitz"I've only known Ubuntu 11.04 and Unity. I'm happy with it and won't change for a while at least. I'm also building a web server independently of my desktop using Ubuntu and command line. It seems "all good". I do worry that the corporate mindset of Cannonical will eventually conflict with Open Source traditions which I value highly. " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1323993Feb 21 15:06
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: What does #Ubuntu want to be? http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/what-does-ubuntu-want-to-be-when-it-grows-up/10386 #linuxFeb 21 15:06
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schestowitz"But why?" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1325382Feb 21 16:11
TechrightsSocialNot a Diaspora post?Feb 21 16:11
qu1j0t3aarghFeb 21 16:12
schestowitzi've just propagated the patch to all other copiesm of the SWFeb 21 16:15
qu1j0t3right, but there's going to be another one :|Feb 21 16:17
qu1j0t3i'm having trouble w the reliability of my PCFeb 21 16:17
qu1j0t3i think decoupling capsFeb 21 16:17
qu1j0t3actually two have this faultFeb 21 16:17
qu1j0t3will be interesting to see if i can replace them :Feb 21 16:17
qu1j0t3:|Feb 21 16:17
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schestowitzMinceR:  https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1325925Feb 21 18:01
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ubuntu: you’re doing it wrong http://dehype.org/2012/ubuntu-design/ #ubuntu #gnu #linuxFeb 21 18:01
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schestowitzoopsFeb 21 18:01
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1326001Feb 21 18:01
TechrightsSocialNot a Diaspora post?Feb 21 18:01
qu1j0t3thatFeb 21 18:33
qu1j0t3s gonna get irritating :)Feb 21 18:33
schestowitzThey also keep modifying their s/w, it's in alphaFeb 21 18:53
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/laurelrusswurm/status/170604119093035008Feb 21 19:53
TechrightsSocial@laurelrusswurm: @schestowitz So much power concentrated in one place disturbs me (like MicroSoft) so I'll pass until G owns whole Internet & #nochoice leftFeb 21 19:53
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ch_s/status/170601469404397569Feb 21 19:54
TechrightsSocial@ch_s: @schestowitz : absolutely correct. Yet G+ lacks inbound and outbound APIs While offering a superior experience.Feb 21 19:54
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schestowitz"What are you experimenting with, Dr. Roy?" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1326244Feb 21 20:19
schestowitz3-d surfaces now, soon with biomedical applications tooFeb 21 20:19
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Finished the 15-page report today (ERC), resuming experiments on the new server with 12 GB of RAM. Thanks to #Linux !Feb 21 20:19
schestowitzqu1j0t3: would you say going to a developing country may be more fulfilling than staying in the UK?Feb 21 21:17
schestowitzThe subject has come up again, I reckon that as long as I can get a persistent connection, it should be possible to do just about everything (same lifestyle) with a surrounding that's more modest and cheaper to live withFeb 21 21:18
schestowitzMaybe I should also consult my friend John, who went to Mexico as a programmer/freelancer to live a simple life with his wife. The thing is, after the recession he couldn't get much contract work, I think that only in theory these plans work OKFeb 21 21:22
qu1j0t3schestowitz: potentially yes. the culture change can be refreshing.Feb 21 21:33
qu1j0t3schestowitz: it's in my plansFeb 21 21:34
schestowitzas long as it's not risky to relocate to the imperialists' sideFeb 21 21:37
qu1j0t3not sure what you meanFeb 21 21:39
schestowitztwo issues come to mindFeb 21 21:40
schestowitzone is security to oneself as a foreignerFeb 21 21:40
schestowitzanother is, being able to relocate back to the West if, for instance, it's not easy to find a good job in the developing areas, such as BrazilFeb 21 21:40
qu1j0t3ah.Feb 21 21:40
schestowitzImmigration is of course not a problemFeb 21 21:40
qu1j0t3well brazil is not a difficult relocate.Feb 21 21:40
qu1j0t3it's well developedFeb 21 21:40
schestowitzbut there's a stereotypeFeb 21 21:40
schestowitzlike having to explain to $employer why you chose to live x years in $LowStatusNationFeb 21 21:41
schestowitzOn the other hand, it may be seen as a proFeb 21 21:41
schestowitzbut stereotypes in class-conscious society may matter moreFeb 21 21:42
schestowitzwhich is why, one option is to opt for academia of the highest tier in a place where the standard is lowerFeb 21 21:42
qu1j0t3schestowitz: generally i find people here look positively on it.Feb 21 21:47
MinceRhttp://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzr7ioHvjx1qzvl4eo1_500.jpgFeb 21 22:08
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schestowitzMinceR: neither does the antichrist (Obama) :>Feb 21 22:17
MinceR:>Feb 21 22:21
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soZc8l2Fcn8&feature=digest_monFeb 21 22:25
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MinceRif onlyFeb 21 22:28
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyS2TUH11Q0&feature=player_embedded#!Feb 21 22:32
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MinceR190006 < schestowitz> MinceR:  https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1325925Feb 21 22:40
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ubuntu: you’re doing it wrong http://dehype.org/2012/ubuntu-design/ #ubuntu #gnu #linuxFeb 21 22:40
MinceRgreat articleFeb 21 22:40
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schestowitz"All of this is almost always done in a very nice and friendly tone (Jono Bacon in particular is a master at this), but that does not change the simple fact that discussion is not exactly encouraged — and by this I mean a meaningful discussion that has a chance to modify or even revert the actual design decision."Feb 21 22:57
schestowitzLOLFeb 21 22:57
schestowitzMinceR: yes, good articleFeb 21 22:57
schestowitzother articles in this site are decent http://dehype.org/Feb 21 23:02
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schestowitz"@Jason Agreed. When Canonical starts using 12 yr. old girls to manufacture their overpriced electronics the comparison will be a tad more appropos. " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1325925Feb 21 23:04
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ubuntu: you’re doing it wrong http://dehype.org/2012/ubuntu-design/ #ubuntu #gnu #linuxFeb 21 23:04
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qu1j0t3"Canonical starts using 12 yr. old girls"Feb 21 23:05
qu1j0t3it already does. ALL gadgets are made in china.Feb 21 23:05
qu1j0t3Android has the same problem. everyone does.Feb 21 23:06
qu1j0t3for all we know the Android mfrs are worse than foxconn (those that aren't foxconn if any)Feb 21 23:06
MinceRcanonical doesn't make hw yet, do they?Feb 21 23:06
qu1j0t3no idea, but the reference must be to Android, or it doesn't make sense.Feb 21 23:07
schestowitzread http://techrights.org/2010/07/11/waugh-on-canonical/Feb 21 23:07
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schestowitz"Well, obviously, most user won't trust it. I mean: non-governmental users " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1327038Feb 21 23:09
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Lightweight Portable Security (LPS) 1.3.2 is out http://www.spi.dod.mil/lipose.htm #government #gnu #linuxFeb 21 23:09
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