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| schestowitz | it'hehe | Feb 27 01:16 |
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| scientes_ | heheheheh schestowitz | Feb 27 02:14 |
| scientes_ | why do I like this song so much: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLQl3WQQoQ0 | Feb 27 02:15 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Adele - Someone Like You - YouTube .::. Size~: 153.15 KB | Feb 27 02:15 |
| scientes_ | i even learned it on the guitar | Feb 27 02:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | "Wikipedia...works on what I call the Oracle illusion, in which knowledge of the human authorship of a text is suppressed in │ | Feb 27 02:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | order to give the text superhuman validity. Traditional holy books work in precisely the same way and present many of the same │ | Feb 27 02:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | problems."--Jaron Lanier | Feb 27 02:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: Jaron Lanier writes ("You are not a gadget") -- "Instead of people being treated as the sources of their own creativity, commercial aggregation and abstraction sites │ | Feb 27 03:06 |
| qu1j0t3 | presented anonoymized fragments of creativity as products that might have fallen from the sky or been dug up from the ground, │ | Feb 27 03:06 |
| qu1j0t3 | obscuring the true sources." | Feb 27 03:06 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: (Zuckerberg profits from turning people into machines) | Feb 27 03:06 |
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| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: "Emphasising the crowd means de-emphasising individual humans in the design of society, and when you ask people not to be │ | Feb 27 04:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | people, they revert to bad moblike behaviours."--Jaron Lanier | Feb 27 04:53 |
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| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: Lanier is a MS anti-FOSS troll | Feb 27 08:27 |
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| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: that may be, but i haven't detected it in his book yet. | Feb 27 13:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: the book is still valuable. | Feb 27 13:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: so far, he's given extremely good arguments against Facebook and Twitter (and YouTube to an extent). | Feb 27 13:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | there has been no anti-FOSS material in it. | Feb 27 13:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: did you read those quotes? | Feb 27 13:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | i mean, without preconceptions? :) | Feb 27 13:27 |
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| abeNd-org | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=l7GFo1U5kew | Feb 27 14:12 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: VFW Members Duct Tape Flag Burner to Pole - YouTube .::. Size~: 130.06 KB | Feb 27 14:12 |
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| MinceR | http://www.reddit.com/tb/q7u8g | Feb 27 14:26 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Deus Ex gets it right. June 26, 2000. via reddit.com .::. Size~: 1.65 KB | Feb 27 14:26 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: yes | Feb 27 14:37 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RA3_Ty3U29I | Feb 27 14:38 |
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| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: well, i'm going to finish the book; i'll let you know what I discover :) | Feb 27 14:47 |
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| schestowitz | ok, thanks | Feb 27 15:26 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1352615 | Feb 27 15:27 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why Inkscape is WAY ahead of Adobe Illustrator http://goo.gl/IFMyp #Inkscape | Feb 27 15:28 |
| schestowitz | "Not strange at all. They (Reddit) polled a tiny subset that is biased ;)" | Feb 27 15:28 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Why Inkscape is WAY ahead of Adobe Illustrator | Unixmen .::. Size~: 422.4 KB | Feb 27 15:28 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: http://technonstop.com/foxconn-working-conditions "Steve Jobs didn’t notice a problem with the manner in which quick product delivery was being ensured" | Feb 27 16:00 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Appalling Working Conditions at Foxconn: Apple Promises Correction | TechNonStop .::. Size~: 29.47 KB | Feb 27 16:00 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: no shit | Feb 27 16:03 |
| abeNd-org | what is their suicide rate compared to non-foxconn chinese workers, & against the rest of the world? | Feb 27 16:12 |
| qu1j0t3 | abeNd-org: those are discussed in some of the articles about it | Feb 27 16:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | no links right now, i'm at work. schestowitz may have links. | Feb 27 16:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | abeNd-org: but, "suicide nets". | Feb 27 16:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | abeNd-org: i don't see these surrounding Canadian workplaces | Feb 27 16:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | so clearly it's an identifiable problem | Feb 27 16:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | if you've seen ANY film out of Chinese factories, you'll understand why. | Feb 27 16:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | I recommend Burtynsky's Manufactured Landscapes, but even that is dated now; it must be worse now | Feb 27 16:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's just horrible | Feb 27 16:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | awful | Feb 27 16:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | plus, google 'foxconn hexane' | Feb 27 16:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | and prepare to be stunned | Feb 27 16:17 |
| schestowitz | google 'foxconn hexane | Feb 27 16:34 |
| schestowitz | !google 'foxconn hexane | Feb 27 16:34 |
| TechrightsSocial | [1] - iPhone: Foxconn factory workers demand change | GlobalPost | http://www.globalpost.com/dispatches/globalpost-blogs/the-grid/iphone-factory-workers-demand-change | Feb 27 16:34 |
| TechrightsSocial | [2] - Unhealthy Work: Foxconn workers sickened by N-Hexane - a letter ... | http://unhealthyworkblog.blogspot.com/2012/02/foxconn-workers-sickened-by-n-hexane.html | Feb 27 16:34 |
| TechrightsSocial | [3] - Apple Weighs In on Foxconn Suicides, Wintek Poisonings - Softpedia | http://news.softpedia.com/news/Apple-Weighs-In-on-Foxconn-Suicides-Wintek-Poisonings-184370.shtml | Feb 27 16:34 |
| TechrightsSocial | [4] - Apple's supplier audit finds underage labor & bribery, addresses ... | http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/02/14/apples_supplier_audit_finds_underage_laborbribery_addresses_suicides.html | Feb 27 16:34 |
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| schestowitz | "I dunno, I kinda like it. c: " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1338396 | Feb 27 18:41 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: seems #McDonalds is happy to stick with Jaunty... http://imgur.com/a/7pbmQ/noscript #ubuntu #linux | Feb 27 18:41 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: seems McDonalds is happy to stick with Jaunty... - Imgur .::. Size~: 8.4 KB | Feb 27 18:41 |
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| schestowitz | This coming week there's the next stage of the Mr. Fitness competition, this one requiring chest flies. My shoulder is still a bit dodgy, which makes it hard to practice in preparation. | Feb 27 19:20 |
| schestowitz | I'm going to win it anyway, I'm pretty sure.. | Feb 27 19:20 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: http://technorati.com/technology/article/apples-poisoned-workers-plead-with-americans/ | Feb 27 19:42 |
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| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: yep | Feb 27 19:52 |
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| schestowitz | you mentioned this a while back | Feb 27 20:04 |
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| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: yes... | Feb 27 20:36 |
| qu1j0t3 | and today | Feb 27 20:36 |
| schestowitz | yes,I meant a while back as in hours | Feb 27 20:37 |
| schestowitz | I heard about the poisoning, but didn't think it was the major thing except when it comes to ewaste recycling | Feb 27 20:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | heh | Feb 27 20:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | no, it's a workplace issue -- entirely predictable | Feb 27 20:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | the same things happen(ed) in the West | Feb 27 20:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | but we had 100 years of reforms | Feb 27 20:46 |
| qu1j0t3 | CHina's just the West, just a few decades behind | Feb 27 20:46 |
| qu1j0t3 | except | Feb 27 20:46 |
| qu1j0t3 | they will never get the reforms | Feb 27 20:46 |
| qu1j0t3 | and the west will revert as well | Feb 27 20:46 |
| qu1j0t3 | since all the mechanisms that brought reform are being progressively destroyed by plutocracy | Feb 27 20:47 |
| schestowitz | globalisatiion | Feb 27 20:47 |
| qu1j0t3 | sort of. | Feb 27 20:49 |
| qu1j0t3 | and internal self-destruction -- end of unions, end of environmental regulation | Feb 27 20:49 |
| qu1j0t3 | ppl don't understand the impact of environmental regulation in the past 50 years | Feb 27 20:49 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's huge. we can still breathe. | Feb 27 20:49 |
| qu1j0t3 | but not for long | Feb 27 20:49 |
| qu1j0t3 | look at china's air -- another best kept secret | Feb 27 20:49 |
| qu1j0t3 | they don't have air | Feb 27 20:49 |
| qu1j0t3 | they have a perpetual fog | Feb 27 20:49 |
| qu1j0t3 | nobody talks about it | Feb 27 20:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | yet every photo proves it | Feb 27 20:50 |
| schestowitz | I heard so too, and the cancer stats | Feb 27 20:51 |
| schestowitz | But China is a large country, clearly some places are far foggier than others. LA too is foggy. | Feb 27 20:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | you don't need to 'hear' it. | Feb 27 20:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | just look at any pic from china. | Feb 27 20:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | location doesn't even matter. | Feb 27 20:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | there's a great brown cloud that's created as well | Feb 27 20:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | nobody talks about it | Feb 27 20:54 |
| schestowitz | Some reader of TR from China told me about it in long e-mails | Feb 27 20:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | just look at any picture | Feb 27 20:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | look at the olympics | Feb 27 20:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | air quality was their #1 problem | Feb 27 20:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | they had to take the cars off the roads just to allow the olympics to happen | Feb 27 20:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | athletes complained | Feb 27 20:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | some refused to compete | Feb 27 20:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | the air is a joke | Feb 27 20:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | and not just in beijing -- everywhere | Feb 27 20:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | it beats me why people aren't terrified by this | Feb 27 20:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | and the rest | Feb 27 20:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | Burtynsky's Manufactured Landscapes -- watch it | Feb 27 20:56 |
| schestowitz | you showed me around 2010 | Feb 27 20:57 |
| schestowitz | coveruo: it's not pollution, it's ART | Feb 27 20:57 |
| schestowitz | "we're actually doing them a FAVOUR !!" | Feb 27 20:58 |
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