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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Fancy a computer one billion times faster than the one you're reading this on? http://t. http://p.ost.im/p/exShJWFeb 20 00:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @guardiantech: OpenStreetMap: 'It's the Wikipedia of maps' http://t.co/tCfRDlii http://p.ost.im/p/ex8K7FFeb 20 00:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Our Man Bildt - 6 part profile on Sweden's "Dick Cheney", foreign minister Carl Bildt | Rixstep http://t.co/wmntDsP5Feb 20 00:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] How we "hacked" FOX to report the war in Afghanistan: 500th episode of The Simpsons, tonight at 8PM EST w/Julian AssangeFeb 20 00:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Apparently "Safe House" with Denzil Washington is has a WikiLeaks derived plot. Is that true?Feb 20 00:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I'm still so angry about #UofT and #Western signing the absurd #AccessCopyright agreement http://www.ur1.ca/89c2sn !CDNpoliFeb 20 00:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] DMCA Takedown Service Tells !Copyright Companies: ‘Adapt Your Business To The New Digital World’ http://www.ur1.ca/89drc << !CDNpoli !C11Feb 20 00:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #China backs Assad as forces open fire | COLLAPSENET http://goo.gl/w0S7u #nato's blackops is over...Feb 20 01:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Oil. Food. Water. The Great Resource Race Is on | COLLAPSENET http://goo.gl/GUSno #collapseFeb 20 01:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] cryptogon.com » Saudi Arabia Cuts Oil Output http://goo.gl/oMWXr #peakoil in all it's gloryFeb 20 01:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Announcement: @bkuhn (and legions of interested others) shall have 4 days to copy currently nondestroyed dents. #denticideispainlessFeb 20 01:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @vanden Code! Why you not do what I think you do?Feb 20 01:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The Triumph of Silence: Carl Bildt, Sweden and Lundin Oil http://t.co/7QocsCDXFeb 20 01:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] GREEK D-DAY: SLOG US SOURCE CONFIRMS WALL ST PLANS AS SECRET BERLIN TIMETABLE EMERGES | COLLAPSENET http://goo.gl/UqkdF #eu #collapseFeb 20 01:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ONE NICE things about vacations is that they leave visions and sights in one’s mind. From the special suite at th http://ur1.ca/89eidFeb 20 01:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] THE task of comparing atomically-meaningful 3-D surfaces is not simple. The plethora of diffusion-based techniques have http://ur1.ca/89eieFeb 20 01:38
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walterbyrdI keep logging in, but I cannot leave a comment. I keep getting "you must be logged in to leave a comment"Feb 20 02:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] "Working Your Way into the Buddhist Community « Dharma Folk" http://ur1.ca/89fbi Feb 20 02:14
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scientes_where can i get something like this: http://search.digikey.com/us/en/products/1888540-1/A35076-ND/1246898 but only eSATA, and only 1, instead of minimum order=1080 unitsFeb 20 02:38
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scientes_this is my order items http://mark.ossdl.de/2010/03/daily-digest-for-2010-03-11-2/Feb 20 02:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] A Responsible Citizen Not Only Shares Culture, But Destroys The Copyright Industries http://goo.gl/BxiAgFeb 20 02:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] sudo yum install #maven -> Install 210 Packages !disturbingFeb 20 03:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] North Korea has genuine issues to address as well. The border with the south as drawn by the USA over sea areas is illegal. But who ..Feb 20 04:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] .. cares about the law?Feb 20 04:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] mutt tip: ESC E to "bounce" mail with attachments - http://ur1.ca/89guy #fbFeb 20 04:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] .. own benefit.Feb 20 04:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Plain cigarette packets 'illiberal' http://goo.gl/MUKQ8 we demand the right to kill people & profit from it #BigTobacco #PRFeb 20 06:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Secret justice: private consultations http://gu.com/p/35t6yFeb 20 06:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] basic internet training is the answer http://goo.gl/4YUCs check the fucking email address #simples scam foiled at birthFeb 20 06:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The #Simpsons' 500th episode airs http://goo.gl/2HU0K #wikileaks #assangeFeb 20 06:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Leaky Cellphone Nets Can Give Attackers Your Location http://goo.gl/NV1CaFeb 20 07:01
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1311222 "What is the relevance? Just curious. "Feb 20 08:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if #Hollywood was about "art" "culture" & "creativity" folks like #MichaelBay would be run out of town, not celebrated as heros #MPAAFeb 20 08:29
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/q23p/statuses/171447475633262592Feb 20 08:54
TechrightsBot-tr@q23p: @schestowitz i couldn't even boot it. Stuck after finding bootloaderFeb 20 08:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] The Document Foundation officially incorporated in Berlin, Germany: http://wp.me/p1byPE-eW !libo !tdfFeb 20 09:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Beware the Ides of March! http://ur1.ca/89lfyFeb 20 09:04
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/askmeaks/statuses/171440213929885696Feb 20 09:05
TechrightsBot-tr@askmeaks: Via @opensourceway Why the #patent system doesn't play well with software: If Eolas went the other way http://t.co/kSva3MR9 #SWPATFeb 20 09:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] GNU/LInux Sold Retail in Brazil http://ur1.ca/89ljv #brazil #gnu #linuxFeb 20 09:11
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schestowitzhttp://www.forbes.com/sites/ericsavitz/2012/02/15/sandisk-buys-flashsoft/Feb 20 09:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Awesome. Fritzing Lab. Now to combine that with 3D printing - http://ur1.ca/89lst #fbFeb 20 09:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Canada threatens EU over #tarsands - http://bit.ly/wnVGp5 may not export any more moosen #energyFeb 20 09:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New version of phIRCe, the #Techrights channels IRC bot, is out http://ur1.ca/89lv8 thanks to @qu1j0t3Feb 20 09:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The arduino documentary - http://bit.ly/wcc0qO "story of #arduino from a concept to bringing a new genre to open source hardware revisited"Feb 20 09:39
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schestowitzXFaCE: o hiFeb 20 09:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux pays http://ur1.ca/86mxm http://goo.gl/MI3V3 trends in IT...Feb 20 09:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux job ads this week are self explanatory http://goo.gl/HUPMQ http://ur1.ca/89m1f /Feb 20 09:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Another #WindowsXP to #Fedora 16 Linux migration http://goo.gl/K5cQQ #gnu #linuxFeb 20 09:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Corporate publishers keep insulting scholars - http://bit.ly/zks9q7 whoa, things really hotting up here #elsevier #boycott #openaccessFeb 20 10:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Shining Light On #ACTA's Lack Of #Transparency - http://bit.ly/zMMhqa in case you missed this at the weekend: need to get the word outFeb 20 10:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] CrypTweet: Strong #Encryption for Twitter DMs - http://bit.ly/AD1p9g cool & important (but a bit complicated for ordinary users)#Feb 20 10:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ORG London February Pub Meetup - #ACTA - http://bit.ly/y0Y0RG tonightFeb 20 10:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google’s New ‘Dart’ Language to Get a Starring Role in #Chrome http://goo.gl/x1BT7 #dartFeb 20 10:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Carla Bruni : "Internet ou les jeux vidéo sont bien plus diaboliques que la TV" - http://bit.ly/AwB5Pg just like her hub #sarkozyFeb 20 10:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Motorola Droid XYBOARD/XOOM 2 Root Method By Dan Rosenberg Now Available http://ur1.ca/89mb9... http://b1t.it/aSKUFeb 20 10:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Oooh! Dutchies! http://ur1.ca/89mbb #nuffsaidFeb 20 10:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #DataJournalism Awards – Call for Entries! - http://bit.ly/wA7TES "open to media cos, non-profit organisations, freelancers & individuals"Feb 20 10:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] HTML5 http://ur1.ca/89mdvFeb 20 10:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Spark Linux Tablet Up for Pre-Order, Dev Discusses Economics of Project http://goo.gl/4X6E9 #kdeFeb 20 10:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The DIY 'Maker Movement' Meets the VCs - http://buswk.co/AsUSuV and some VCs don't get it, poor dears (v @mbauwens) #openhardwareFeb 20 10:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "I have switched Linux Mint 12 KDE to the Netbook desktop, and as always it looks nice and is a pleasure to use" http://goo.gl/jbc6t #kdeFeb 20 10:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Disappointed! My dear followers! Please fix this bug. Send a few bucks to patch this :-) http://ur1.ca/89mgn... http://b1t.it/aSK8Feb 20 10:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Baidu has got "Linux-based Yi mobile platform." http://ur1.ca/89mgx #linuxFeb 20 10:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux is hard. It's hard to break, it's hard to beat, and it has hardened versions that improve security. #Linux is very hard.Feb 20 10:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] πω πω δυσκολο πρωινό ξύπνημα!καλημέρα κόσμε.Feb 20 10:23
schestowitz"Now, I thought it's one of the ACTA protests " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1319412Feb 20 10:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Preserve languages for the next generation w/ FOSS http://goo.gl/vOQ9V self-determination, not a business decisionFeb 20 10:24
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/90868515Feb 20 10:26
TechrightsBot-tr@Sander (sandersch)'s status on Monday, 20-Feb-12 10:24:17 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz but it's not hard to learn, hard to use or hard to get. ;-pFeb 20 10:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] LG Optimus LTE Tag Customizes Itself Using #NFC Stickers - http://on.mash.to/xZ7RQ7 this is clever; will be common, I suspectFeb 20 10:26
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MinceRcould just use the camera and QR code stickersFeb 20 10:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Goldman Sachs caught in a Sharia Catch-22 http://goo.gl/X6Fx5 #GoldmanSachs & corrupt CEO still in place. GS not beheaded.Feb 20 10:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Oracle withdraws patent claim and demands less compensation - http://bit.ly/wJif20 so what was that about #android being in trouble here?Feb 20 10:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA before the European Parliament - http://bit.ly/xG7ybx what will and could happen nextFeb 20 10:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Heads should roll. But, of course, they won't. - http://bit.ly/y28dKV shocking privacy abuses in #irelandFeb 20 10:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] "Don't Be Fooled By 'Don't Be Evil' from http://identi.ca/url/66888926Feb 20 10:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @charlesschulz We are Foundation. Expect us. #occupydocuments #occupyopenoffice #tdf #libreofficeFeb 20 10:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody #Oracle withdraws patent claim and demands less compensation - http://bit.ly/wJif20 so what was that about #android being ...Feb 20 10:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Football rights value soars in wake of TV Now lawsuit - http://bit.ly/xioJJK oh, look, the sky is *rising* again...Feb 20 10:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] "Book Publishers ‘Shut Down’ http://identi.ca/url/39557855 and iFile-it | TorrentFreak" from http://identi.ca/url/66889411Feb 20 10:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @glynmoody: Heads should roll. But, of course, they won't. - http://bit.ly/y28dKV shocking privacy abuses in #irelandFeb 20 10:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] still waiting on the #Sun's career killing stories with lurid details on the Sun journos arrested in dawn raids....oh waitFeb 20 10:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Android app to control #arduino - http://bit.ly/zNfUdL great combinationFeb 20 10:51
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iophkhttp://www.debian.org/News/2012/20120219Feb 20 11:03
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iophkNo more Mono in Debian, then?Feb 20 11:03
iophkhttp://www.debian.org/legal/patentFeb 20 11:03
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iophk"Debian will not knowingly distribute software encumbered by patents;"Feb 20 11:04
iophkPatents aside, it was garbage anyway.Feb 20 11:06
Diablo-D3OH REALLY?Feb 20 11:06
Diablo-D3TIME TO MOVE MONO TO NON-FREEFeb 20 11:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Eternal #Copyright: a modest proposal - http://tgr.ph/AEwO3W why didn't I see this before? the solution to all our problems (v @Asher_Wolf)Feb 20 11:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Oppose the UK's Communications Capabilities Development Plan - http://bit.ly/xR6pId epetition against total #surveillanceFeb 20 11:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Created a Reprap page here on Google+, enjoy! http://ur1.ca/89n95Feb 20 11:19
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iophkMoving Mono to non-free would be a good start, but it does not belong in the distro at all.Feb 20 11:31
iophkIt's not being used a stepping stone away from M$ .Net, but instead used to inject it into once free projects.Feb 20 11:31
oiaohmMono patent status has never been fully resolved.Feb 20 11:40
oiaohmSo use mono you still might require paying MS.Feb 20 11:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #LibreOffice Foundation Symbolises Maturity - http://bit.ly/zEu2nG useful update on all frontsFeb 20 11:41
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iophkThe Debian policy does not do a good job of addressing vague or unspecified claims like M$ makes.Feb 20 11:49
MinceRso, when will debian stop installing mono on default GUI installs?Feb 20 11:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 97 Las Vegas Karaoke Locations Sued By 'Righthaven Of #Trademarks' Demanding $500 Million - http://bit.ly/x6xYYv more madnessFeb 20 12:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] που'ναι ο @cocobilly οεο;; @radiobubbleFeb 20 12:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Mwuhahahaha :-) http://ur1.ca/89oz5Feb 20 12:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @verdorama FreeFileSync - Visual folder comparison and synchronization: http://ur1.ca/89pexFeb 20 12:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #usa #collapse RT @rms: Tent Cities http://ur1.ca/89p1tFeb 20 12:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Install VLC 2.0 In Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot http://ur1.ca/89pic #video #software #gnu #linux #vlc #videolan #microsoft #windowsFeb 20 12:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody #LibreOffice Foundation Symbolises Maturity - http://bit.ly/zEu2nG useful update on all frontsFeb 20 12:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] Σας ευχαριστω ολους για τη θερμη υποδοχη του @radiobubble app.stay tuned στο !rbandroid για οτι εχει σχεση με την εφαρμογη.Feb 20 12:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Final Score on #Spectrum Legislation: Bad Stuff Averted, Good Stuff Made Possible. I Call That A Win. - http://bit.ly/zPmO85 OK, thenFeb 20 12:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ha! don't miss the wonderful avatar here: http://bit.ly/y6sR9q I do hope this spreads... #sarkozy #censorshipFeb 20 12:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Ziua României la Colegiul Europei din Belgia http://ur1.ca/89px4 #romania #belgia #europe #eu #monarchy #royalFeb 20 12:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #OMS adia publicação de estudos sobre vírus mutado da gripe das aves - Ciências - PUBLICO.PT http://goo.gl/kAL3J #h5n1 #scitek #bigpharmaFeb 20 12:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Passos muda discurso do “nem mais tempo, nem mais dinheiro” - PUBLICO.PT http://goo.gl/jD6tr #pt #ppc #collapse #march23Feb 20 12:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Microsoft sees the future is trust? http://goo.gl/Czihp rofl from a company who spends a fortune sewing #FUD & #propagandaFeb 20 13:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] STUDY: Așa zisa piraterie online nu a dăunat muzicii, ci dimpotrivă! http://ur1.ca/89q9j #music #acta #law #copyright #business #romaniaFeb 20 13:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Citrus – A #LibreOffice Interface for Today http://goo.gl/gyJNJ #flosstoolsFeb 20 13:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] On the W3C CSS Working Group blog, "Everything You Ever Wanted to Know about the CSSWG -webkit- Discussions" http://kwz.me/bHFeb 20 13:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Duminică 19 februarie, la Săvârșin în parc http://ur1.ca/89qno #romania #monarchy #arad #savarsinFeb 20 13:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Cryptweet - Strong Encryption for #Twitter http://goo.gl/hhoMk #freedomtools vi@jmcestFeb 20 13:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @nwalrave @momobxl http://t.co/5HIH9zsd - Ik heb daar even vervelend gedaan en HTML-slides gebruikt ;)Feb 20 13:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Astăzi, la Timişoara, în Piaţa Operei, pentru Monarhie http://ur1.ca/89qqd #timisoara #rege #romania #monarhie #royal #europeFeb 20 13:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Install VLC 2.0 In !Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot http://identi.ca/url/66897640Feb 20 13:23
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DaemonFChttp://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Horde-Groupware-contains-backdoor-1433972.htmlFeb 20 13:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Nuclear Plant Safety Report on USB Stick Lost By Official - Security&Risk http://goo.gl/r2yFJ and they want this? http://goo.gl/VUoXP #ukFeb 20 13:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Just had a talk on an !ACTA debate on Silesian University in Katowice, #Poland. Seems it went well. :)Feb 20 13:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 8 Lessons From Nortel's 10-Year Security Breach - #Security - Informationweek http://goo.gl/Heook it's hard to do worst than this!Feb 20 13:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Getting ready for launch. First root filesystem available for download #RaspberryPi http://ur1.ca/884irFeb 20 13:53
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DaemonFChttp://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Linux-Mint-developer-releases-Cinnamon-1-3-1437599.htmlFeb 20 13:56
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DaemonFCThe better GNOME than GNOME is updatedFeb 20 13:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ilustragrupo: Livros em Domínio Público http://goo.gl/d5XQs Alguém interessado em rebater estes pontos? o Ricardo Antunes trabalha cá em PTFeb 20 13:58
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MinceRif it's better, is it really gnome? :>Feb 20 13:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Why does Wired continue to publish bullshit stories with sensationalist headlines? http://identi.ca/url/66899356Feb 20 13:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Save your brains: Get the #opensource guide to the zombie apocalypse by @suehle | http://red.ht/wvDC1ZFeb 20 14:01
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DaemonFCMinceR: It's kind of a rolling fork of GNOMEFeb 20 14:02
DaemonFCthey rebase their fork on upstream GNOME from time to timeFeb 20 14:02
DaemonFCit's like Ubuntu to DebianFeb 20 14:02
DaemonFCso yes, it really is GNOME to the extent that Ubuntu is more or less DebianFeb 20 14:03
eebrahDaemonFC: What is this "better GNOME"?Feb 20 14:03
DaemonFCbut, their design approach couldn't be more different than GNOMEFeb 20 14:03
DaemonFCeebrah: CinnamonFeb 20 14:04
DaemonFCthey fork GNOME 3.x and make it usable againFeb 20 14:04
eebrahDaemonFC: Oh OK, caryy on ..Feb 20 14:04
Diablo-D3I think its called xfceFeb 20 14:04
eebrah*carry onFeb 20 14:04
*Diablo-D3 snickersFeb 20 14:04
DaemonFCit looks and feels like a modernized GNOME 2Feb 20 14:04
MinceRafaik xfce is not a gnome fork :>Feb 20 14:04
MinceRjust a usable DEFeb 20 14:04
DaemonFCthey even brought back desktop effects in their Mutter forkFeb 20 14:04
*eebrah likes his GNOME3Feb 20 14:04
*eebrah also likes is GNOME2Feb 20 14:05
*MinceR likes his XFCE and OpenBoxFeb 20 14:05
DaemonFCwell, GNOME Shell and Unity are both crap, they each do things better and worse than the other oneFeb 20 14:05
DaemonFCand it's nice that there are alternatives to both of them because it's hard to tell which I hate moreFeb 20 14:05
DaemonFCbut if it was JUST Unity and GNOME Shell it would be like asking if you prefer Democrats or RepublicansFeb 20 14:06
MinceR:>Feb 20 14:06
MinceRwhat does unity do better?Feb 20 14:06
*MinceR forgotFeb 20 14:06
DaemonFC"I don't know. If you put it like that, maybe I hate that one a little less"Feb 20 14:06
DaemonFCwell, Unity lets you maximize and minimize to a taskbarFeb 20 14:07
MinceRicFeb 20 14:07
DaemonFCand it doesn't hide messages from your instant messenger like GNOME Shell doesFeb 20 14:07
DaemonFCso I suppose I hate Unity lessFeb 20 14:07
DaemonFCbut it does plenty to annoy meFeb 20 14:07
DaemonFCGNOME Shell decided to deprecate the system tray as well, only instead of reimplementing one you can't right click on that only certain things can run in.....they just hid itFeb 20 14:08
DaemonFCand there's no way to force it to show itselfFeb 20 14:08
DaemonFCbecause YOUDONTNEEDTOSEEXCHATBLINKINGATYOULULZ!!!Feb 20 14:08
DaemonFCWHYWOULDYOUNEEDTHAT?Feb 20 14:08
DaemonFCROFL!Feb 20 14:08
DaemonFCamong other stupid fucking bullshitFeb 20 14:09
fewtThat reminds me, someone sent a patch for Jupiter that fixes some stupid GNOME 3 system tray crapFeb 20 14:09
fewtI should merge that in. :DFeb 20 14:09
DaemonFCGNOME 3 just means that the third generation of idiots has rewritten GNOMEFeb 20 14:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma, @kelzOKO If possible please check on and report on the availability of #Orange 3G where you are @. The GSM variety, not bastard CDMAFeb 20 14:09
DaemonFCthat's all it meansFeb 20 14:09
DaemonFCthird generation of idiotsFeb 20 14:10
DaemonFCand if they somehow ever get it stabilized and usable and all the features you want?Feb 20 14:10
DaemonFCGNOME 4 is out ZOMG!!!Feb 20 14:10
DaemonFCit's a rolling campaign to spend several years making your desktop suck less and less until you can finally almost use it and then they whisk it away and shout PSYCH!!Feb 20 14:11
DaemonFCGNOME is just ridiculousFeb 20 14:11
DaemonFCKDE has done this once since 1998, ONCEFeb 20 14:11
DaemonFCGNOME has done it three timesFeb 20 14:12
DaemonFCat some point all the fun tasks are done and all that's left is fixing bugsFeb 20 14:12
DaemonFCand of course none of them want to do that because it isn't funFeb 20 14:12
DaemonFCso it's time to rewrite everything, againFeb 20 14:13
DaemonFCgoing through bug reports is time and effortFeb 20 14:13
DaemonFCeven if all you have to do is look at one, decide immediately that it's invalid, and close it, it cost you some time and effortFeb 20 14:13
DaemonFCwhy do that when they can just close them all by throwing away millions of lines of code and starting over?Feb 20 14:14
fewtGNOME 2 was in great shape when it got dumpedFeb 20 14:14
fewtis in great shape.Feb 20 14:14
fewtvery usable, very stable, very matureFeb 20 14:14
DaemonFCyeah, but all the fun stuff was doneFeb 20 14:15
fewtlets erase it and start over!Feb 20 14:15
DaemonFCall that was left was fixing bugsFeb 20 14:15
DaemonFCwhich is not funFeb 20 14:15
fewtrightFeb 20 14:15
DaemonFCstart over!Feb 20 14:15
fewtthat's a big problem with OSS, there is no motivation to fix problemsFeb 20 14:15
DaemonFChave to justify themselves being around and working on somethingFeb 20 14:15
DaemonFCso they dig ditches all day and fill them all back in the nextFeb 20 14:15
DaemonFC:)Feb 20 14:15
fewtwhich is why we find bugs and security holes that go unfixed for months at a time.Feb 20 14:15
Diablo-D3gnome 2 has always been shitFeb 20 14:15
Diablo-D3xfce has more functionality, starts up faster, and uses less memory than gnome 2Feb 20 14:16
fewt1,000,000 eyes just isn't true. :(Feb 20 14:16
DaemonFCmost of the bug fixes that come in are from enterprise distributionsFeb 20 14:16
fewtXFCE is pretty great, but not quite as good as GNOME 2 in the usability department.  I think the next release will surpass it though.Feb 20 14:16
fewtbut XFCE still uses GTK2Feb 20 14:16
DaemonFCthe ones with the big money customers that hit a snag and someone working at Red Hat or SUSE fixes itFeb 20 14:16
fewtDaemonFC: +1 but they only work on things that they ship.Feb 20 14:17
DaemonFCRed Hat and SUSE both ship KDEFeb 20 14:17
DaemonFCand officially support itFeb 20 14:17
Diablo-D3fewt: thats a lie.Feb 20 14:17
Diablo-D3xfce is just as usableFeb 20 14:17
fewtWhat is a lie?Feb 20 14:17
fewtIn your opinionFeb 20 14:17
Diablo-D3name one thing gnome2 can do that xfce cantFeb 20 14:17
fewtthat doesn't make my comment a lieFeb 20 14:17
Diablo-D3opinions have nothing to do with facts.Feb 20 14:17
fewtI didn't say it couldn'tFeb 20 14:17
DaemonFCno major enterprise distributions are shipping GNOME 3 yetFeb 20 14:17
fewtI said it wasn't as usable, I didn't say it wasn't usableFeb 20 14:18
fewtit is not as trivial to configure thingsFeb 20 14:18
DaemonFCin fact, I don't think there's a single distribution with paid support options that ships itFeb 20 14:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Some time today my @OrangeKenya 3G connection cut out and now I am on EDGE. Suffering withdrawal symptoms. I NEED MY 3GFeb 20 14:18
fewtin XFCE, where do you configure hibernate or lid switch function?Feb 20 14:18
DaemonFConce it does go out like that you'll start getting thousands of bug reports closed by the distributions that officially support itFeb 20 14:18
DaemonFCI think it's just as much about keeping software with bugs around forever as it is with MicrosoftFeb 20 14:19
DaemonFCalways bugs = always someone paying you to support and fix themFeb 20 14:19
MinceR151534 < fewt> XFCE is pretty great, but not quite as good as GNOME 2 in the usability department.  I think the next release will surpass it though.Feb 20 14:20
MinceRi disagreeFeb 20 14:20
DaemonFCI think the real story behind the hit on GNOME 2 is just as much about it stabilizing to the point where businesses felt as safe using CentOS or somethingFeb 20 14:20
Diablo-D3fewt: that has nothing to do with xfceFeb 20 14:20
fewtDiablo-D3: Are you sure about that?Feb 20 14:20
MinceR151719 < fewt> in XFCE, where do you configure hibernate or lid switch function?Feb 20 14:21
fewtMinceR: fair enough, it was just an observation.Feb 20 14:21
MinceRpower manager settingsFeb 20 14:21
Diablo-D3fewt: although I think you mean "what is the clearly marked power control panel"Feb 20 14:21
MinceRobviously :>Feb 20 14:21
DaemonFCRHEL and SUSE will need new software with fresh bugs to spring on peopleFeb 20 14:21
Diablo-D3er, power managerFeb 20 14:21
DaemonFCto keep them running into problems and too afraid to not buy support Feb 20 14:21
DaemonFCso enter GNOME 3Feb 20 14:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] http://ur1.ca/89rrl /cc @nj3ma @kelzOKO @dennisMungai @fredmanglis @dammim @flintsoul @mwanikigreen @ramanusAsangoFeb 20 14:21
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DaemonFCfewt: I think at some point things settle down and the enterprise distros get worried that their customers may decide they don't need them anymoreFeb 20 14:22
DaemonFClike "Why are we paying thousands of dollars for support when this software is just working so well that we never hit problems?"Feb 20 14:22
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DaemonFCcertainly you always need support contracts when the software is so lulzy and so prone to failFeb 20 14:23
DaemonFCwhich is how Microsoft keeps businesses on their treadmillFeb 20 14:23
DaemonFCit's worse with them, but I see some of it going on with open source stuff as wellFeb 20 14:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] muchos impressed with #MoonMoon but #Newsbeuter doesn't like the feed it creates :( http://moonmoon.org/ may have to apply #FeedburnerFeb 20 14:24
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fewtDiablo-D3: Yes, I was speaking to usability, not function.Feb 20 14:26
Diablo-D3to a linux user, thats the same thingFeb 20 14:27
Diablo-D3go buy a mac.Feb 20 14:27
fewtTo a non-linux user though, it matters.Feb 20 14:27
fewt:DFeb 20 14:27
fewtDaemonFC: Enterprise Linux vendors are expensive.  Oracle is undercutting RedHat like crazy with their lower prices and "good enough" support.Feb 20 14:28
MinceRwho says it's good enough? :>Feb 20 14:28
Diablo-D3lolFeb 20 14:28
Diablo-D3enterprise linuxFeb 20 14:28
DaemonFCOracle probablyFeb 20 14:28
DaemonFC:)Feb 20 14:28
Diablo-D3debian was the original enterprise linux and still the bestFeb 20 14:28
MinceR:>Feb 20 14:28
Diablo-D3I'd like to see someone run redhat for 10 years straight, never have to reinstall, and have completely up to date software installed.Feb 20 14:29
fewtMinceR: It's good enough IMHO.Feb 20 14:29
DaemonFCjust like how Microsoft will support your SUSEFeb 20 14:29
MinceRicFeb 20 14:29
fewtDiablo-D3: I'll agree with that.Feb 20 14:29
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fewtDiablo-D3: but I have systems pushing 6-7 years without being reinstalled, all up to date.Feb 20 14:30
fewtThe hardware tends to fall over before 10 :DFeb 20 14:30
Diablo-D3thats what rsync is for.Feb 20 14:30
fewtdrbdFeb 20 14:30
fewtWhy rsync when it's already there :Feb 20 14:31
fewts/://Feb 20 14:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @nwalrave dankje :)Feb 20 14:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How Evrythng could give any physical object a life online - http://tnw.co/y83s28 the #internetofthings slouches a little closerFeb 20 14:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Online #Python Tutor http://goo.gl/ORzqQ #flosstools #programmingFeb 20 14:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Pirate Bay ISP Block Challenged For Censoring Lawful Content - http://bit.ly/xQR0hs more collateral damage #finlandFeb 20 14:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] First #RaspberryPi SD Card Image Released [#Debian Squeeze, LXDE] - http://bit.ly/zpCgys looking goodFeb 20 14:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] BKA speicherte per Trojaner Telefonsex-Mitschnitte - http://bit.ly/zBj5z5 whoops, this will cause problems #deFeb 20 14:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Cello suites van Bach in Bar Buro. Ik kan dat pruimen.Feb 20 14:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Tiny device cuts cost of #DNA sequencing - http://bit.ly/zt5ix0 the police will love this #genomics #forensicsFeb 20 14:49
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DaemonFCI still have a 486 Packard Bell from 1991 that bootsFeb 20 14:50
DaemonFC:)Feb 20 14:51
DaemonFCI decided to upgrade it to a 500 MB hard drive at one pointFeb 20 14:51
DaemonFCwhich was a bottomless pit when you're talking about storing DOS apps on itFeb 20 14:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD @gerlos: Just changed #network #printer @ work. !GNU !linux box: just works. #Windows boxes: required CD and some #reboots. #satisfactionFeb 20 14:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @glynmoody Tiny device cuts cost of #DNA sequencing - http://bit.ly/zt5ix0 the police will love this #genomics #forensicsFeb 20 14:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Good article on deploying oVirt - http://ur1.ca/89sgy #fbFeb 20 14:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] in (n. american?) english we playfully call toilets "the throne". gives your dent a funny twist to my ears ;) and: +1 to investing in healthFeb 20 14:59
*DaemonFC is listening to Burn the Obedient by Korn ft. Noisia on The Path of Totality (Special Edition) [Amarok]Feb 20 15:04
DaemonFCheheFeb 20 15:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] dantti is crafting a beautiful print desktop widget (in QML, of course!) for Plasma Workspaces 4.9: http://ur1.ca/89sl9Feb 20 15:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @meanmicio: GNU Health incorporates the latest WHO list of essential medicines, plus their pregnancy risk category !gnu !fsf #ehealthFeb 20 15:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels nowFeb 20 15:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels nowFeb 20 15:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] Linux Action Show on Spark @ pre-order: "i have not been so excited about a new hardware release in a long time" :) http://ur1.ca/89s49Feb 20 15:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] .. and they are right about pre-orders closing soon.Feb 20 15:18
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DaemonFCfor some reason I have to listen to Korn while I'm cleaningFeb 20 15:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Next OpenSUSE http://ur1.ca/89t12 #suse #opensuse #novellFeb 20 15:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Symantec a Patent Aggressor http://ur1.ca/89t9e #securityFeb 20 15:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Pirate Bay could be blocked in the UK, after a judge rules it infringes copyright - http://tnw.co/Agn2KH bootless whackamole continuesFeb 20 15:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Data From Black Duck Challenged Again http://ur1.ca/89tp7 #blackduck #gpl #fsfFeb 20 15:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] “Green Week”: Ask MEPs to Reject #ACTA Back in Their Home Districts! - http://bit.ly/Axe9w5 key week: lots of practical suggestionsFeb 20 15:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @mcnalu: UK PM David Cameron is shunned and heckled and reporters kept out during his hospital walkabout http://ur1.ca/89to7Feb 20 15:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Barnes & Noble To Take On Amazon (Again) With A New 8GB Nook Tablet - http://tcrn.ch/AjueF3 competition is good #ebooksFeb 20 15:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] A new tag: #notatag called for?Feb 20 15:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Looking for collaborators in an Open Science project - http://bit.ly/ykxENU opening up #openscienceFeb 20 15:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Help fund the CHOMP #Kickstarter Project for a cheap, open source #MIDI controller http://kck.st/w7SXhIFeb 20 15:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New Documents Reveal How Microsoft Removed GNU/Linux From Computers in Indian Schools http://goo.gl/Woycl #indiaFeb 20 15:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Harman: Coalition is ‘dragging its feet’ on #deact - http://bit.ly/y2ujLV labour's policy as evidence-free as ever (v @Coadec)Feb 20 15:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @schestowitz New Documents Reveal How Microsoft Removed GNU/Linux From Computers in Indian Schools http://goo.gl/Woycl #indiaFeb 20 15:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @glynmoody Barnes & Noble To Take On Amazon (Again) With A New 8GB Nook Tablet - http://tcrn.ch/AjueF3 competition is good #ebooksFeb 20 15:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @glynmoody Tiny device cuts cost of #DNA sequencing - http://bit.ly/zt5ix0 the police will love this #genomics #forensicsFeb 20 15:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Browsing a website using chrome, getting a pop-up ad to download Chrome is kinda stupid, methinks.Feb 20 15:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] pic of the week: The Thames - http://bit.ly/wdzyNi classic stuff #london (v @londonist)Feb 20 16:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] τι γινεται ρε γμτ εχει σταματήσει ο χρόνος δευτεριάτικα? ακομα 4 είναι; :(Feb 20 16:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @ramonsuarez: Showcase your Belgian company in the Mobile Monday Brussels app at the Mobile World Co http://ur1. ...Feb 20 16:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @Vacaturedotcom: Yeri Tiete, @tuinslak, ex-Google en bedenker van iRail http://t.co/VMRcQ6hK #tijdomoptestaanFeb 20 16:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] From open source to sourcing openly - http://bit.ly/wsYDd7 what lies beyond free software? #business #manufacturing #openinnovationFeb 20 16:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open Season on Open Standards - http://bit.ly/wPSFeO UK consultation on #openstandards: #RF, #FRAND & something elseFeb 20 16:08
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*DaemonFC is listening to Narcissistic Cannibal by Korn ft. Skrillex & Kill The Noise on The Path of Totality (Special Edition) [Amarok]Feb 20 16:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @glynmoody: @ccess is launched! - http://ur1.ca/89v07 here: http://ur1.ca/89v09 "to make scholarly i http://ur1. ...Feb 20 16:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: Have a nice lady sitting next to me on the page for each season? Easy to parallelise map creation, modular schematics ftwFeb 20 16:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Patent Parasites and the Bubble of Software Patents http://ur1.ca/89v5q #swpatsFeb 20 16:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Also, I think that I fixed a problem with forwarding replies to Facebook. Let's see.Feb 20 16:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Just taking a look at Gravatar profiles, like http://identi.ca/url/66906110. Nice stuff!Feb 20 16:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] USTR Claims #TPP Has 'Unprecedented' #Transparency, But Won't Reveal Details Unless You're A Big Industry Lobbyist - http://bit.ly/wq6aREFeb 20 16:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] clever and well executed! worth the read. ♻ @glynmoody: Eternal #Copyright: a modest proposal - http://tgr.ph/AEwO3WFeb 20 16:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ice Cream Sandwich the best Android ever http://ur1.ca/89vcnFeb 20 16:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] on my blog, starting with the jan 28th post. http://ur1.ca/7x2eg .. the Make*Play*Live site will eventually have all info as well.Feb 20 16:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Happy Birthday, #SimplyMEPIS http://ur1.ca/89veq #mepis #debianFeb 20 16:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] LZ4 For Btrfs Arrives While Its FSCK Remains M.I.A. http://ur1.ca/89vfh #btrfsFeb 20 16:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New EU-level spat over open standards http://ur1.ca/89vgiFeb 20 16:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] PC Linux OS 2012.02: nice and stable http://ur1.ca/89vhr #gnu #linuxFeb 20 16:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is #Vista8 a Linux Copycat? http://ur1.ca/89vjr #gnu #linuxFeb 20 16:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Unity 5.4 Review http://ur1.ca/89vnd #unity #ubuntuFeb 20 16:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LinuxMint developer releases #Cinnamon 1.3 http://ur1.ca/89vrbFeb 20 16:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Great idea! rd @1111aether #cbc should play #1984 screen in screen during a game (duty to serve the public and all that) !CDNpoliFeb 20 17:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Só se deveria poder votar (todas as eleições e referendos) depois de se passar num teste sobre o que se passa no mundo e no país!Feb 20 17:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz Is #Vista8 a Linux Copycat? http://ur1.ca/89vjr #gnu #linuxFeb 20 17:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] παιδια @O_kanalarhis στον αέρα, συντονιστείτε @radiobubbleFeb 20 17:08
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digitteqnohippiethey've been doing itfor years.  8 is not different in this regard.Feb 20 17:13
schestowitzdoing what?Feb 20 17:15
schestowitzcopycat?Feb 20 17:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 20/2/2012: Linux 3.3 RC4, VLC 2.0 http://ur1.ca/89w3t #techrightsFeb 20 17:18
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digitteqnohippiecopycat, yes.  but also claiming it as innovation.  ... and further, also stomping their weight around with armies of lawyers.   ,... and the lock-in "features".   etc etcFeb 20 17:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] χωρις το @radiobubble δεν εχει νοημα υπαρξης το #rbandroid.Γι'αυτο #an_to_thes ξηλώσου http://bit.ly/ztrVkJFeb 20 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Debian -- News -- #Debian Position on Software #Patents http://goo.gl/oDAGc #floss #gnulinuxFeb 20 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz #justsaynototaggingpeopleonlineFeb 20 17:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] VÍDEO: Marques Mendes...Social-democrata critica ainda regalias das empresas dos transportes - TVI24 http://goo.gl/Ccmfh #pt #poucavergonhaFeb 20 17:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @russellmcormond Last week I wrote bureaucrats in Competition Bureau, asking if they would be intervening on !C11 http://www.ur1.ca/881ouFeb 20 17:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !listening to @allison_crowe "Skeletons and Spirits" under earbuds so my kid (home from uni) can sleep in as long as he wants #FamilyDayFeb 20 17:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @joshwoodward 100% beats 5% any day. :) #indieProd !CC #music #art #sharing !selfPubFeb 20 17:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] despite all the activity with e.g. Plasma Active, we still <3 Plasma Desktop. folderview fixes from isemenov: http://ur1.ca/89w8vFeb 20 17:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I really liked it!Feb 20 17:33
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fewt1digitteqnohippie:  Are we talking about Microsoft, Apple, or Canonical?  I am confuse.Feb 20 17:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] well this sucks: a box of Spark dev units was intercepted at the front of the building and taken by someone from the DHL guy. :/Feb 20 17:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] they are investigating .. but i have a bad feeling about this.Feb 20 17:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Yeah, I'd be willing to bet money that it won't.Feb 20 17:39
XFaCEfewt1: hello confuseFeb 20 17:41
fewt1:)Feb 20 17:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @ramonsuarez You don't know #sospiet?Feb 20 17:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @mrflo @ramonsuarez The only thing left for you is the speak West-Flemish and you could become a real SOS PietFeb 20 17:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] The Pirate Bay could be blocked in UK http://www.ur1.ca/89rom via @sandersch http://www.ur1.ca/89wfv !copyrightFeb 20 17:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @m4nima1 Iran Blocks More Websites Ahead Of Elections http://www.ur1.ca/89wl9 #censorshipFeb 20 17:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] União Europeia pronta para aprovar novo resgate à Grécia - Expresso.pt http://goo.gl/ex1kU #march23 #greeceFeb 20 17:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @samdermaut @Joke @FredoFredonis congrats ;)Feb 20 17:56
DaemonFChas anyone figured out how to get kio_magnet to work right?Feb 20 17:57
DaemonFCthis is about the god awfulest thing I've ever seenFeb 20 17:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @aseigo: well this sucks: a box of Spark dev units was intercepted at the front of the building and taken by someone from the DHL guy. :/Feb 20 17:58
DaemonFCit's easier to copy the magnet link and paste it into your torrent client than try to figure this fucking thing outFeb 20 17:58
DaemonFCif ktorrent is not already running, stand there and do nothing, spin the notifications icon around and add 1 to the notifications count Feb 20 17:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] how many users would #Twitter lose if the #teamfollowback folks all had their accounts blitzed? more capacity for regular folksFeb 20 17:59
DaemonFCif ktorrent is running, spin the notifications icon around, add one to the count, and have ktorrent add the link to the downloads after not asking the user what to do with itFeb 20 18:00
DaemonFCkeep spinning the notifications and if the user clicks on it, tell them there's a never ending job runningFeb 20 18:00
DaemonFCwhen ktorrent finishes, surprise the userFeb 20 18:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] common sense means you follow folks because you want to read their stuff, not for the sole reason of being followed back building numbersFeb 20 18:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Tor Browser Bundles for Linux have been updated to include Firefox 10.0.2: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/new-tor-browser-bundles-linuxFeb 20 18:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] sadly it seems there's a fair number of folks so sad they aspire to be social network pity fucks #teamfollowbackFeb 20 18:01
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DaemonFCinstead of Downloads, throw it in ~/.kde/share/apps/kio_magnet, because most users will find what they downloaded under several layers of hidden foldersFeb 20 18:01
DaemonFCif the user tries to be clever and edits magnet.protocol to point directly to KTorrent or their client of choice, spin the icon around, add a never ending job, fail to launch anything, and pop up a notification that the service to handle magnet links has diedFeb 20 18:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] A cure for the common troll by @ajbiller | http://red.ht/yh3ujW #swpatents #NPEsFeb 20 18:03
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schestowitzhey DaemonFCFeb 20 18:03
schestowitzhow goes it?Feb 20 18:03
DaemonFCall KDE apps use it, Firefox has different settings so you can fix it there but it only fixes FirefoxFeb 20 18:03
schestowitzFirefox is a relic for meFeb 20 18:03
DaemonFCChrome is stupid and launches whatever xdg-open wants to useFeb 20 18:03
DaemonFCI *HATE* kio_magnetFeb 20 18:04
schestowitzfirefox is a toolbox, a carrier of pluginsFeb 20 18:04
DaemonFCHATE HATE HATE HATE HAAAAAAAAATE itFeb 20 18:04
schestowitzDaemonFC: what does it do?Feb 20 18:04
DaemonFCfucks up every magnet URN you click onFeb 20 18:04
schestowitzBTW, kio is odd hereFeb 20 18:04
DaemonFCit's a torture deviceFeb 20 18:04
schestowitzthe other day I opened two files over scp with kateFeb 20 18:04
schestowitzmade changes, savd, it didn't mofdify on the serverFeb 20 18:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @forteller Do you like a bit creepy short films? Kitty Kitty has won many prizes, and it's free http://ur1.ca/89wop !CreativeCommons ...Feb 20 18:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] << back to work ;)Feb 20 18:04
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schestowitzI thought it was dolphin's fault, tried konq tooFeb 20 18:05
DaemonFCIt's almost like some KDE developer out there wanted to know how they could possibly make the experience of using magnet links worseFeb 20 18:05
DaemonFCand then was like "Oh, kio magnet!!!"Feb 20 18:05
XFaCElolFeb 20 18:05
XFaCEHooray for XFCE!Feb 20 18:05
schestowitzthen it seemed to have had something to do with how I opened them, through the longer route with menu for apps lacking associations, to group-open files with different extensions in this caseFeb 20 18:05
DaemonFCwell, I'm pissedFeb 20 18:06
DaemonFCI've been trying to bypass it somehow for the last hourFeb 20 18:06
schestowitzkio is awesome, but in this case it didn't even warn me that it saved all changed to a transient local fileFeb 20 18:06
XFaCEKDE loses this roundFeb 20 18:06
DaemonFCI gave up even trying to make it work and copied the linkFeb 20 18:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Top 5 !Ubuntu pre-installed Laptop companies | Unixmen http://goo.gl/KdhsKFeb 20 18:06
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XFaCENow I just need the Trash function to work properly :PFeb 20 18:06
DaemonFCthe only way to get rid of kio_magnet is to remove ktorrentFeb 20 18:07
schestowitzask ryanFeb 20 18:07
schestowitzhe'sTrashFeb 20 18:07
DaemonFCand that deletes magnet.protocolFeb 20 18:07
schestowitzTrash pluginFeb 20 18:07
XFaCEschestowitz: that's not niceFeb 20 18:07
DaemonFCthen clicking on a magnet does nothing at allFeb 20 18:07
schestowitz:-)Feb 20 18:07
schestowitzhe knows my honour..Feb 20 18:07
schestowitzalthough someone told me to stop it last friday, some people don't like this tease humour muchFeb 20 18:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] No way! ♻ @angelaperry Ooh, look. You can buy 5-star reviews. http://www.ur1.ca/89wwh #headdesk #uncool #fraud !badFeb 20 18:08
schestowitzXFaCE: I'm trash too, we all are :-)Feb 20 18:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: buy your kindle ebook, write a unique positive review, vote 5stars, click like, upvote other 5star reviews, and more for $5 - ultimatereview .::. Size~: 47.05 KBFeb 20 18:08
schestowitzsome people are unable to make fun of themselves, thoughFeb 20 18:08
schestowitzesp. in front of other friendsFeb 20 18:08
schestowitz"It's well 'ard guv'nor!" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1319509Feb 20 18:08
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XFaCEschestowitz: "You are plagerist! More plagerism that I've ever seen. Plagerism apologist! JAAA!"Feb 20 18:09
schestowitzmehFeb 20 18:09
XFaCE(ex. of one who cannot laugh at himself)Feb 20 18:09
DaemonFCwhy do people bother doing things if they're going to leave it broken and walk off?Feb 20 18:10
DaemonFCthen it's worse than if they had never done anythingFeb 20 18:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Raspberry Pi with a week to go - 2/20/2012 - Electronics Weekly http://goo.gl/DXWGsFeb 20 18:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @torproject Tor Browser Bundles for Linux have been updated to include Firefox 10.0.2: http://ur1.ca/89wzf ...Feb 20 18:14
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XFaCEyaaa!Feb 20 18:16
XFaCERaspberry Pi!Feb 20 18:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Is Windows 8 a !Linux Copycat? http://goo.gl/ovWrvFeb 20 18:16
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XFaCENoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...Feb 20 18:17
XFaCE(yes)Feb 20 18:17
schestowitzI. Love. This. Company.Feb 20 18:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I will sell the email details of everyone who joined #fiverr for $5 roflFeb 20 18:18
XFaCE\:"M$ does what it always has done, and that is borrow other people's ideas for software," he asserted. "There's nothing wrong with that -- it is normal in the world of software because there's nothing new under the sun once you have some hardware and an instruction set." -pogsonFeb 20 18:19
XFaCEThis is a key pointFeb 20 18:19
qu1j0t3LOLFeb 20 18:19
XFaCEIt isn't the borrowing, its the building of illegitimate monopolies on these shared ideasFeb 20 18:19
fewtgodFeb 20 18:19
fewtM$?Feb 20 18:19
qu1j0t3it's not normal in the world of software when you're making a proprietary scam out of it, yes XFaCEFeb 20 18:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Original: How to Kickstart an Open Source Music Revolution with CASH Music http://t.co/94zeK065 #linuxFeb 20 18:19
XFaCE "M$ calls it innovating and applies for software patents on other people's ideas and sues people over them," Pogson said. Feb 20 18:19
TechrightsBot-tr@: Feb 20 18:20
qu1j0t3he wants it both waysFeb 20 18:20
fewtoh Katherine NoyesFeb 20 18:20
fewtand PogsonFeb 20 18:20
fewtWhen will we get grown up reporters?Feb 20 18:20
fewtteeheeFeb 20 18:20
qu1j0t3fewt: i am reminded of Douglas Adams. "First against the wall when..."Feb 20 18:21
XFaCEqu1j0t3: No, he's just pointing out that Microsoft's using other ideas practice is common in software devFeb 20 18:21
qu1j0t3XFaCE: but it's not.Feb 20 18:21
XFaCEThat's not the problem; the problem is the "proprietary 'open' standards"Feb 20 18:21
qu1j0t3XFaCE: it's a lieFeb 20 18:21
XFaCEAnd the lockdownFeb 20 18:21
fewtit is common practice.  Apple does it, Microsoft does it, Canonical does it..Feb 20 18:21
fewtKDE and GNOME looked like WindowsFeb 20 18:22
XFaCEand the stupid software patents which are granted at a whim, when they should be granted periodFeb 20 18:22
qu1j0t3XFaCE: it's common practice WITHIN an open source, copyright based framework. when it's done to lock into proprietary crap, that's theftFeb 20 18:22
fewtUnity looks like OSXFeb 20 18:22
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qu1j0t3fewt: it's "common practice" but it's theft.Feb 20 18:22
fewtIt isn't theftFeb 20 18:22
qu1j0t3fewt: the same thing they sue anyone else forFeb 20 18:22
*ChanServ gives channel operator status to _GoblinFeb 20 18:22
fewtApple vs Microsoft proved it isn't theftFeb 20 18:22
qu1j0t3fewt: it's not theft only when done legally under licenseFeb 20 18:22
DaemonFCyeah, but KDE and GNOME don't sue people for looking like they doFeb 20 18:22
XFaCEqu1j0t3: I wouldn't call it theft because that promotes the same thinking that sharing copyrighted stuff is "theft"Feb 20 18:22
qu1j0t3fewt: i mean codeFeb 20 18:23
DaemonFCApple and Microsoft rip them off and then sue people for looking like Windows and OS XFeb 20 18:23
qu1j0t3fewt: clearly i don't view ideas as stealableFeb 20 18:23
XFaCEqu1j0t3: LikewiseFeb 20 18:23
fewtqu1j0t3: What code are you referring to?Feb 20 18:23
DaemonFCApple sued Microsoft in the 90s for Windows looking like Mac OSFeb 20 18:23
fewtDaemonFC: and lost :)Feb 20 18:23
DaemonFCthe court sided with Microsoft, saying that look and feel is not copyrightableFeb 20 18:23
fewt+Feb 20 18:23
DaemonFCnow the About Windows dialog claims that the Windows GUI is copyrighted?Feb 20 18:24
qu1j0t3fewt: hm, well, the quote does say IDEAS so i guess i'm arguing the wron gpoint. never mind :)Feb 20 18:24
qu1j0t3DaemonFC: what do you expect?Feb 20 18:24
XFaCEDaemonFC: Yep, now that judgement gets washed underFeb 20 18:24
qu1j0t3DaemonFC: money talksFeb 20 18:24
qu1j0t3blehFeb 20 18:24
*qu1j0t3 hates the industryFeb 20 18:24
schestowitz[18:20] <fewt> When will we get grown up reporters?Feb 20 18:24
XFaCETo me, software patents are just as ridiculous as music patents would beFeb 20 18:25
schestowitzNon-canadians?Feb 20 18:25
qu1j0t3XFaCE: inb4 sampling :)Feb 20 18:25
XFaCEfewt's a canadian?Feb 20 18:25
DaemonFCMicrosoft themselves spent lots of money  in court arguing that it wasn'tFeb 20 18:25
XFaCEqu1j0t3: U kidding me, rite?Feb 20 18:25
DaemonFCnow they're arguing theirs isFeb 20 18:25
DaemonFCthis is ridiculousFeb 20 18:25
qu1j0t3XFaCE: i dunno. didn't drake just get done for sampling?Feb 20 18:25
DaemonFCsomeone needs to tell them they can't have it both waysFeb 20 18:25
*qu1j0t3 isn't really coherent todayFeb 20 18:25
XFaCEqu1j0t3: I mean like parts of a song being patentedFeb 20 18:25
schestowitzpogson and noyes (and hudson whom she cited) are canadianFeb 20 18:25
qu1j0t3XFaCE: oh, PATENTED, ewwwwwwFeb 20 18:25
XFaCEschestowitz: hmm, didn't know thatFeb 20 18:25
XFaCEqu1j0t3: ExactlyFeb 20 18:26
qu1j0t3XFaCE: i guess re patents i;'m now of the zero-tolerance persuasion.Feb 20 18:26
XFaCEThat's how I view software patentsFeb 20 18:26
qu1j0t3XFaCE: it's like cannibalism. let one guy do it, pretty soon they're raiding hospitals to source chicken mcnuggets.Feb 20 18:26
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fewtI don't care where they come from, I want to respect Pogson, I agree with some things he says.  It's the application of his ideas that turn me off.  "M$" is an immediate turn off.Feb 20 18:27
qu1j0t3XFaCE: better just to have none of it.Feb 20 18:27
XFaCEfewt: And suppose real journalists are the ones on Fox, etc?Feb 20 18:27
DaemonFCeither GUIs are copyrightable or they aren'tFeb 20 18:27
fewtuh, what?Feb 20 18:27
DaemonFCif they are, then Microsoft should be suedFeb 20 18:27
DaemonFCand so should everyoneFeb 20 18:27
fewtFaux news?Feb 20 18:27
fewtwho?Feb 20 18:27
DaemonFCif they're not, they should stop claiming theirs isFeb 20 18:27
XFaCEfewt: oh good, that was a test, and you passedFeb 20 18:28
fewtKathryn Noise articles are commonly inaccurate to the point of being worthless.Feb 20 18:28
XFaCEqu1j0t3: http://www.jenandtonic.ca/images/mcnugget.jpgFeb 20 18:28
fewtFaux news is the new comedy central. :)Feb 20 18:28
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting image/jpeg typeFeb 20 18:28
qu1j0t3if only it were a comedy :<Feb 20 18:28
XFaCEfewt: Really? I don't find it funny.Feb 20 18:28
fewtI wasn't seriousFeb 20 18:29
XFaCEfewt: I find it more akin to getting severe indigestionFeb 20 18:29
fewtIt usually makes me angryFeb 20 18:29
qu1j0t3XFaCE: that's awesome. Why are people even surprised?Feb 20 18:29
qu1j0t3fewt: yesFeb 20 18:29
XFaCEqu1j0t3: It's a patented processFeb 20 18:29
XFaCEfewt: I was more established what you consider "real" journalistsFeb 20 18:29
qu1j0t3XFaCE: "nobody knows how it got there"Feb 20 18:29
fewt:)Feb 20 18:30
XFaCEPogson is more of an opinion guy anywayFeb 20 18:30
XFaCEHe comments on storiesFeb 20 18:30
qu1j0t3XFaCE: let me give them a hint. "We chop up random bits of chickens. Why the heck WOULDN'T this happen"Feb 20 18:30
fewtI don't dislike pogson, though I don't always agree with him.Feb 20 18:30
XFaCEfewt: Which should be the case  for everybodyFeb 20 18:30
fewtHe's quoted me a few times I think which I find interesting.Feb 20 18:30
fewtI just think we need less "M$", it's a turn offFeb 20 18:30
fewtseems immatureFeb 20 18:30
XFaCEI don't see why people think they must agree with a source 100% of the timeFeb 20 18:31
XFaCEfewt: MehFeb 20 18:31
XFaCEfewt: I think Florian's behaviour is more mature (and harmful)Feb 20 18:31
XFaCEby comparisonFeb 20 18:31
fewtI don't follow FlorianFeb 20 18:31
XFaCEfewt: For good reasonFeb 20 18:31
XFaCEIf I wanted baseless crap, I just mash the keyboardFeb 20 18:32
XFaCE:)Feb 20 18:32
fewtSusan Linton, lots of respect there.Feb 20 18:32
XFaCEfewt: You've been quoted? Who are you exactly?Feb 20 18:32
JeremiahYlolFeb 20 18:32
XFaCEqu1j0t3: And what are you doing in the main channel?Feb 20 18:32
XFaCEAnd where is here?Feb 20 18:32
XFaCEAnd who I am?Feb 20 18:32
XFaCEWhy?Feb 20 18:32
JeremiahYwhat is life?Feb 20 18:33
qu1j0t3XFaCE: right, right. this is how i feel today.Feb 20 18:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Escola do Mato - Segurança com Lâminas - YouTube http://goo.gl/6JmQV #pt #bushcraftFeb 20 18:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] The @duolit !selfPub writing contest http://www.ur1.ca/89x6k is a good idea; but single vote system would confer more credibility than 1adayFeb 20 18:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Escola do Mato - Segurança com Lâminas       - YouTube .::. Size~: 114.7 KBFeb 20 18:33
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qu1j0t3XFaCE: i am here to watch the bot for a bitFeb 20 18:33
fewtHe quoted my phoronix critique a few months back.Feb 20 18:33
schestowitz[18:28] <fewt> Kathryn Noise articles are commonly inaccurate to the point of being worthless.Feb 20 18:33
schestowitzbut she cites "hairyfeet"Feb 20 18:34
schestowitza known /, trolFeb 20 18:34
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schestowitzXFaCE: it's just chicken, what's the matter?Feb 20 18:34
XFaCElolFeb 20 18:34
fewtXFaCE: I'm just a nobody like everyone else. :)Feb 20 18:34
schestowitzI was once served chicken FEET at a Chinese restaurant, couldn't eat the thingFeb 20 18:34
JeremiahYchicken feet are goodFeb 20 18:35
JeremiahYif they are cooked rightFeb 20 18:35
fewtWe have chicken feet at a chinese restaurant here in my area, I have't tried it though.Feb 20 18:35
schestowitzqu1j0t3: the bot here does not yet run the latest version, 0.54Feb 20 18:36
schestowitzTRIdentica  uses twitfolkFeb 20 18:36
schestowitzperlFeb 20 18:36
qu1j0t3schestowitz: yeah, it's amusing. "nobody knows how it got there". What part of CHICKEN PARTS GO IN, BATTERED CHICKEN PARTS COME OUT is so fu**ing hard to understand. /me blames FoxFeb 20 18:36
schestowitzma'am, if it ain't killing you it'll make yo strongerFeb 20 18:36
schestowitznow, have your headFeb 20 18:37
schestowitzand get off my grillFeb 20 18:37
XFaCEFOX: Is a war in Iran possibly innevitable? Our expert says most hypothetically very yes.Feb 20 18:37
schestowitzFOX: rich people inciting people against poor peopleFeb 20 18:38
fewtThey seem to incite poor people against the middle class.Feb 20 18:38
fewtit's interesting to watchFeb 20 18:38
fewtsadFeb 20 18:38
fewtangeringFeb 20 18:38
schestowitzsaddisticFeb 20 18:38
XFaCEFOX News: SCREAMING AND INTERRUPTING AND BEING OBNOXIOUS MAKES YOU MORE RIGHT.Feb 20 18:38
schestowitzand engagingFeb 20 18:39
schestowitzFOX: Ruch LiteFeb 20 18:39
schestowitz*RushFeb 20 18:39
qu1j0t3"The mother pressed charges and demandded $100,000 compensation." FOR SEEING A CHICKEN HEAD IN A CHICKEN FOOD PRODUCT.Feb 20 18:39
qu1j0t3chr1$t.Feb 20 18:39
XFaCEqu1j0t3: Should have sued the MAFIAA insteadFeb 20 18:40
fewtoh shi- who put it on fox news in here?Feb 20 18:40
fewt:Feb 20 18:40
fewt:)Feb 20 18:40
schestowitzFOX: I can't believe it's not Goebbels{tm}Feb 20 18:40
XFaCEqu1j0t3: She has just about the same amount of evidence against them as they do against the people they sueFeb 20 18:40
qu1j0t3XFaCE: should have driven to McD's executive suite and shoved it up the a** of the CEO.Feb 20 18:40
qu1j0t3XFaCE: end of story.Feb 20 18:40
XFaCEqu1j0t3: Along with some pink goo?Feb 20 18:40
qu1j0t3XFaCE: yeah, hogtie him and leave him in a bath of it until it flays his skin. :DFeb 20 18:41
*qu1j0t3 is full of good ideasFeb 20 18:41
qu1j0t3XFaCE: are you in on Toews-gate?Feb 20 18:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Lansley mobbed by angry #NHS campaigners http://goo.gl/gg0JDFeb 20 18:41
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XFaCEqu1j0t3: Haven't followed the feed closely, but have been following the news aboutFeb 20 18:41
XFaCEAnd the Conservatives crying "NDP!"Feb 20 18:42
qu1j0t3hypocritical jerksFeb 20 18:42
XFaCE^not newsFeb 20 18:43
qu1j0t3XFaCE: i know :<Feb 20 18:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Monday's security updates http://ur1.ca/89xo3Feb 20 19:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] methinks the #Tories are hell bent on rushing through ideological policies only their donors like under the excuse of "the economy"Feb 20 19:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if they don't force them through while there's an excuse, they risk being punted out of office and losing their chance to screw us overFeb 20 19:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] "Downloads from New Hope Sangha" http://ur1.ca/89xu4 Feb 20 19:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Richard Stallman | XIX Semana Informática do IST http://goo.gl/c5H7E #pt #flossFeb 20 19:24
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DaemonFChttp://www.debian.org/reports/patent-faqFeb 20 19:25
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DaemonFChttp://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Oracle-withdraws-patent-claim-and-demands-less-compensation-1437328.htmlFeb 20 19:29
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DaemonFCSCOracle's case continues falling apartFeb 20 19:29
DaemonFCanother piece jsut fell offFeb 20 19:29
DaemonFCthey're now seeking less than 5% of the damages against Google that they were trying to get initiallyFeb 20 19:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] How the New York Times betrays its sources, part 387 http://t.co/qa6h779xFeb 20 19:33
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DaemonFCit seems like they're trying to get out of this with a technical victory to save faceFeb 20 19:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] If You're Going To Compare The Old Music Biz Model With The New Music Biz Model, At Least Make Some Sense http://goo.gl/2YddtFeb 20 19:34
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DaemonFChttp://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Mozilla-takes-action-against-CAs-issuing-man-in-the-middle-certificates-1437332.htmlFeb 20 19:37
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DaemonFChttp://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Apple-previews-OS-X-10-8-with-Gatekeeper-Update-1436172.htmlFeb 20 19:37
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DaemonFCApple allows users to voluntarily submit to their walled gardenFeb 20 19:38
DaemonFCeventually it will be mandatoryFeb 20 19:38
DaemonFCjust like with WindowsFeb 20 19:38
Formic_the sky is fallingFeb 20 19:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #RIAA Insists That, Really, The Music Industry Is Collapsing; Reality Shows It's Just The RIAA That's Collapsing http://goo.gl/qCHc8Feb 20 19:39
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DaemonFCbeing told what you can run on your own computer is a bad thingFeb 20 19:40
sebsebsebHi _GoblinFeb 20 19:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Firefox To Get A New Default Theme Across All Platforms, Other Enhancements http://identi.ca/url/66914560Feb 20 19:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] this dude's name is almost #Freeloader; how apt for a parasite like the #RIAA http://goo.gl/rpCj3Feb 20 19:41
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DaemonFCFirefox needs a new theme Feb 20 19:43
_Goblinsebsebseb: hello!Feb 20 19:43
DaemonFCbut it's not the most urgent thing it needsFeb 20 19:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] iTWire - #GPL use in #Debian on the rise: study http://goo.gl/FUAGS vi@http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2012/04/#GPLFeb 20 19:43
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DaemonFCWebGL that doesn't crash would be more usefulFeb 20 19:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Make Your Presentations Accessible to All updated - share the news http://ow.ly/1hw9SOFeb 20 19:44
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schestowitzDaemonFC: download oneFeb 20 19:45
schestowitzor get its derivs, if any still existFeb 20 19:45
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Formic_daemonfc - its not any different than being told your distro is non-free because zsnes is in the repoFeb 20 19:47
schestowitzsnes is non-free?Feb 20 19:49
schestowitzwhat's zsnes?Feb 20 19:49
_Goblina snes emulatorFeb 20 19:50
_Goblinis zsnes oss?Feb 20 19:51
Formic_yesFeb 20 19:51
Formic_its open sourceFeb 20 19:51
_Goblinor maybe the distro is classed as non-free because it includes the facility to run proprietary code via an emulator?Feb 20 19:51
schestowitzlike wine?Feb 20 19:52
schestowitzwine is freeFeb 20 19:52
_Goblinyeah supposeFeb 20 19:52
_Goblintalking of which....Feb 20 19:52
schestowitzsome of the products based on wine are notFeb 20 19:52
_GoblinI'm playing Dawn of War at the momentFeb 20 19:52
_Goblinvery good...Feb 20 19:52
schestowitz_Goblin: DaemonFC is playing Dawn tooFeb 20 19:52
_Goblingood stuff!Feb 20 19:53
DaemonFCBLAAHAAHAHHHHHHFeb 20 19:53
schestowitzBut a different dawnFeb 20 19:53
*DaemonFC throws up a little in his mouthFeb 20 19:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] FLOSSmole | Collaborative collection and analysis of free/libre/open source project data http://goo.gl/5Nf7Z #flosstools #statsFeb 20 19:53
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schestowitzFLOSSmole sounds like an alias for Sam RamjiFeb 20 19:54
DaemonFCyeah, he like totally said, like "ZOMG BILL, ZOMG OPENSOURCE!!!"Feb 20 19:54
DaemonFCand Bill said "ZOMG, YA I NO RIGHT!?11111"\Feb 20 19:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Thank you also! :)Feb 20 19:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is satipera from identi.ca with 84 dents!Feb 20 19:54
Formic_you can get an open source assembler for snes too so you could make free romsFeb 20 19:55
schestowitzand Miguel went like, "I fell in love with it immediately"Feb 20 19:55
fewtYear of the SNES desktop!Feb 20 19:55
fewt:)Feb 20 19:55
Formic_Input: 21.47727 MHzFeb 20 19:57
Formic_Bus: 3.58 MHz, 2.68 MHz, or 1.79 MHzFeb 20 19:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Fine Tuning the Great Transition | Transition Network http://goo.gl/AG9jz #nafeez #collapseFeb 20 19:58
DaemonFCCanonical provides critical updates for gnome-session until February 2017.Feb 20 19:58
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DaemonFCinterestingFeb 20 19:58
Formic_Redhat will for a while tooFeb 20 19:58
Formic_RHEL 6 will be supported for yearsFeb 20 19:59
DaemonFCCanonical does not provide updates for gnome-shell. Some updates may be provided by the Ubuntu community.Feb 20 19:59
DaemonFCahh, just the metapackage is supported, not the shell itselfFeb 20 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] If US !copyright is Life + 70 only 42 more years before American photographer Ansel Adams (1902-1984) work will be in the !publicdomainFeb 20 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @x11r5 @thistleweb The next one is not meFeb 20 20:01
DaemonFChttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/02/aim-say-no-to-desktop-linux-client-for-now/Feb 20 20:04
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DaemonFCRyan FarmerFeb 20 20:04
DaemonFCUnless AIM is co-incidentally what they're calling XMPP now (which wouldn't be a good idea since the other AIM is owned by a litigious relic), I predict a 100% change of continuing to not give a crap.Feb 20 20:04
DaemonFCSeriously? People still care about AOL? Who?Feb 20 20:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Linux News: Community: Is Windows 8 a Linux Copycat? http://goo.gl/nhjFl #gnulinux #msvista8Feb 20 20:04
fewtI still use AIM, but I don't care about AOL, are we supposed too?Feb 20 20:04
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fewtI'd be more concerned if Compuserv or Prodigy diedFeb 20 20:05
fewtwaitFeb 20 20:05
fewt:DFeb 20 20:05
DaemonFCI can't figure out who would still be using AIMFeb 20 20:05
fewtI still use itFeb 20 20:05
fewtwell, I still log inFeb 20 20:05
DaemonFCthe last time I touched that was maybe 10 years agoFeb 20 20:05
fewtI don't really "use" it.Feb 20 20:05
fewtI just turned if off and realized I would loose contact with no-one because they are all on google talk too.Feb 20 20:06
DaemonFCAOL is trying to rebrand itself as an advertising company / content farm Feb 20 20:06
fewthmmFeb 20 20:06
DaemonFCand mostly failing because nobody has ever cared about portal sitesFeb 20 20:06
fewtOk, AOL can die now, I've turned it off. :)Feb 20 20:07
DaemonFCthey had a number of really expensive cases of stupidity while they were trying to buy up everythingFeb 20 20:07
DaemonFCNetscape was a billion dollar loss that redirects to AOL.com Feb 20 20:07
DaemonFCXoom is goneFeb 20 20:07
DaemonFCthey sold ICQ for about a tenth of what they paid for itFeb 20 20:08
DaemonFCthere's Winamp, which is irrelevant nowFeb 20 20:08
DaemonFCit's a badly mismanaged pile of code that has become so unportable they can't even make a 64-bit Windows version of itFeb 20 20:09
fewtI tried Winamp on my android phone, it suckedFeb 20 20:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stumbles/@stumbles] Victorian nurses and midwives are being undermined by Baillieu Government's removal of nurse/patient ratios. http://respectourwork.com.au/Feb 20 20:09
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DaemonFC"Windows" for ARM won't have WinampFeb 20 20:10
DaemonFCWinamp was stupid and careless and encrouaged an ABIFeb 20 20:10
DaemonFCand now there's so many plugins for it that are proprietary and can't be salvaged even if they could port Winamp itself, that it's effectively x86 32-bit Windows-only until it diesFeb 20 20:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] NYTimes "liberal hawk" Bill Keller needs to drop the snark and do serious journalism | Sami Chopra http://t.co/ht0zJNPIFeb 20 20:11
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DaemonFCthey made a Linux port at one point then gave up because the only real use for the damned thing were the plugins that couldn't be portedFeb 20 20:11
Formic_thats not trueFeb 20 20:14
Formic_they never made a linux oneFeb 20 20:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] [Cracked: Six scary user agreements you've probably signed](http://ur1.ca/89yev... http://ur1.ca/89yewFeb 20 20:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The only explanation for Bill Keller's bizarre attacks on Wikileaks, his former benefactor, is fear. The question is, of what?Feb 20 20:21
sebsebsebfewt: around?Feb 20 20:27
fewtyesFeb 20 20:28
sebsebsebfewt: goodFeb 20 20:28
DaemonFCFormic_: They made a Linux portFeb 20 20:28
DaemonFCof Winamp 3Feb 20 20:28
DaemonFChttp://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/Winamp-3-for-Linux/1002748075/1Feb 20 20:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The Fourth Estate Forfeiting Its Own Press Freedoms: WikiLeaks & The New York Times | NYTX http://t.co/q6uTp69OFeb 20 20:31
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Formic_winamp3 doesn't existFeb 20 20:33
*Formic_ plugs his earsFeb 20 20:33
Formic_techrights should open a channel up on subluminalFeb 20 20:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Ahem. So Microsoft also wants to ride the "Google is evil" wave. But they fail:“Google sends a P3P policy that fails... http://b1t.it/aSYWFeb 20 20:39
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Formic_an irc server on the cjdns darknetFeb 20 20:40
Formic_all the cool people have cjdns nodesFeb 20 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The only explanation for Keller's offense is fear of lack of defense. via @MJMSessionsFeb 20 20:41
schestowitzFormic_: not sure about thatFeb 20 20:46
schestowitznot very transparentFeb 20 20:46
schestowitzwe don't do things in a secretive wayFeb 20 20:46
schestowitzwe defend privacyFeb 20 20:46
Formic_how do you defend privacyFeb 20 20:48
Formic_we're all out in the open right nowFeb 20 20:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] How the New York Times & the Guardian betrayed WikiLeaks http://t.co/WPQxxrYvFeb 20 20:51
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schestowitznot your real nameFeb 20 20:56
schestowitzyou can also cloak the IPFeb 20 20:56
Formic_you need to be a member for 2 weeks before freenode will cloak itFeb 20 20:56
Formic_it takes about a day for authorities to turn an IP address into you and your home addressFeb 20 20:59
cubezzzmy name's been on the net for 16 years :)Feb 20 21:00
cubezzzno problems so farFeb 20 21:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] NYTimes new attack on its "source" Julian Assange: live blog of responses | Nation http://t.co/Q6iKgvzNFeb 20 21:01
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Formic_you're old and nobody caresFeb 20 21:01
Formic_young people are the targetFeb 20 21:02
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schestowitz"Those who do not understand gnu/linux are doomed to reinvent it poorly. " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1320589Feb 20 21:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Donate to the MDA & win an Amazon Kindle Fire http://identi.ca/url/66917214Feb 20 21:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] smartphones are a *lot* trickier to do (nothing to do with UI btw) .. one day though :)Feb 20 21:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Twitter Suspends Four Accounts Critical of #Sarkozy: Is This What He Meant By 'Civilizing' The Net? - http://bit.ly/yvgb7r not good #frFeb 20 21:08
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cubezzzthat's Unix schestowitz Feb 20 21:09
cubezzzhistoric revisionism Feb 20 21:09
cubezzzbut sure, it still appliesFeb 20 21:09
schestowitzFormic_: "Feb 20 21:09
schestowitzI hate that hairyfeet troll:Feb 20 21:09
schestowitzIn the end, "it doesn't matter about matching Windows with features," hairyfeet concluded. "What matters is meeting or beating it in support, ease of use, and simplicity. And while Linux has made great strides, frankly it still has a long ways to go."Feb 20 21:09
schestowitzLet me rephrase that so that it makes sense. "Features of gnu/linux that make things easy to use, simplify internals and interfaces, and negate the need to support don't matter. I'm going to say that Linux has a long way to go."Feb 20 21:09
schestowitz"Feb 20 21:09
schestowitzTrollticlesFeb 20 21:09
schestowitzcubezzz: yes, it was an intentional change of words thereFeb 20 21:10
Formic_lolFeb 20 21:10
cubezzzFormic_, the government might want to know about my PDP-8 research :)Feb 20 21:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Rolling Stone: Assange vs. Keller http://t.co/6Q34gcIqFeb 20 21:11
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cubezzzprobably not thoughFeb 20 21:11
Formic_sure they doFeb 20 21:12
Formic_just to make sure its not terrorismFeb 20 21:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Ahem. So Microsoft also wants to ride the "Google is evil" wave. But they fail:“Google sends a P3P policy that fails... http://b1t.it/aSYWFeb 20 21:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] What is the better term? Open Source? Free Software? Or Software Freedom? I think I will use the latter to avoid being... http://b1t.it/aSZ4Feb 20 21:19
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Formic_cubezzz - did you snail mail people 100% of the time using postcards?Feb 20 21:25
cubezzznopeFeb 20 21:26
cubezzzI collect postcards, I don't send them. At least not very oftenFeb 20 21:26
Formic_you're doing the same thing with unencrypted communicationFeb 20 21:27
cubezzzright, it's an open net based on open standardsFeb 20 21:28
cubezzzmost of the time (unless I'm banking) I assume people can read what I sendFeb 20 21:28
Formic_where you are openly trackedFeb 20 21:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Guest Post: The State of US #Surveillance | ZeroHedge http://goo.gl/hh64q #usa #policestateFeb 20 21:29
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cubezzzif they do track me, they'll know I study old computers :)Feb 20 21:31
cubezzzwhich I post about in public anywayFeb 20 21:32
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MinceRi'm sure studying old computers is a reason to suspect terrorism ;)Feb 20 21:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] A university is an institution. Expecting its policy to conform to law is not unreasonable.Feb 20 21:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #RonPaul’s Libertarian Roots : The New Yorker http://goo.gl/nwmG2Feb 20 21:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @ladyniasan @rich_w: "Our strong advice to anyone who disagrees with same-sex marriage is not to get married to someone of the same sex."Feb 20 21:36
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Formic_cubezzz - its people like you that out the rest of usFeb 20 21:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Announcement: @bkuhn (and legions of interested others) shall have 3 days to copy currently nondestroyed dents. #denticideispainlessFeb 20 21:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I explained why I don't think most of it was discrimination. Institutions and corporations are NOT human beings.Feb 20 21:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] The Document Foundation incorporated http://ur1.ca/89z48Feb 20 21:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] EXCLUSIVE: ANGELA #MERKEL,THE NEW GERMAN PRESIDENT, & A GUILTY PAST | The Slog http://goo.gl/2uvVm #germany #GauckFeb 20 21:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody Twitter Suspends Four Accounts Critical of #Sarkozy: Is This What He Meant By 'Civilizing' The Net? - http://bit.ly/yvgb7r ...Feb 20 21:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Video: The Assassination of Julian Assange https://t.co/uoBk9pavFeb 20 21:51
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DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/02/google-tricks-internet-explorer-into-accepting-tracking-cookies-microsoft-claims.ars?clicked=related_rightFeb 20 21:54
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DaemonFCnow Microsoft is in on this bullshitFeb 20 21:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Discrimination has nothing to do with what I favor. Discrimination is the act of treating individuals in a selected group badly/differentFeb 20 21:54
XFaCEDaemonFC: MS bullshit or google bs?Feb 20 21:55
DaemonFCMicrosoftFeb 20 21:56
XFaCEahFeb 20 21:56
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XFaCEas expectedFeb 20 21:56
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DaemonFCUPDATE: It turns out Facebook and many other sites are using an almost identical scheme to override Internet Explorer's privacy setting, according to a privacy researcher at Carnegie Mellon University. "Companies have discovered that they can lie in their [P3P policies] and nobody bothers to do anything about it," the researcher writes. Feb 20 21:56
DaemonFClolFeb 20 21:56
DaemonFCP3P is uselessFeb 20 21:56
DaemonFCit's why Mozilla browsers have never even supported itFeb 20 21:57
XFaCEp3p?Feb 20 21:57
DaemonFC"Platform for Privacy Preferences"Feb 20 21:57
DaemonFCit was never actually standardizedFeb 20 21:57
DaemonFCbecause of the criticism that it is so easy to bypassFeb 20 21:57
DaemonFCIE is the only browser that even supports itFeb 20 21:57
MinceRstrange, that didn't hold Do Not Track backFeb 20 21:58
MinceRwhat's the difference?Feb 20 21:58
DaemonFCP3P is even dumberFeb 20 21:58
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DaemonFCinstead of passively sending the do not track header, P3P requires a site that wants to set cookies to take the time to lie about their privacy policyFeb 20 21:59
MinceRicFeb 20 22:00
DaemonFCthen there's a complex and confusing setup that the user has to go through to what level of tracking policy lies that they'll let IE acceptFeb 20 22:00
DaemonFCand then if you set it too high and the site doesn't bother lying to IE, it could fail to set a benign cookie that causes IE to forget things like your log insFeb 20 22:00
DaemonFC:)Feb 20 22:01
DaemonFCso pretty much every site puts a fake P3P header in to make sure IE's stupidity doesn't cause their site to breakFeb 20 22:01
DaemonFCor because they really do want to track the user and there are no legal requirements to honor the P3P policy they tell IE they haveFeb 20 22:02
DaemonFCeither way, it's uselessFeb 20 22:02
DaemonFCblocking connections to ad and tracking sites completely more or less solves the tracking problemFeb 20 22:03
DaemonFCbut IE can't do thatFeb 20 22:03
DaemonFCnewer versions sort of can through "tracking protection lists", but those use a special IE-only XML formatFeb 20 22:04
DaemonFCand if you get a duplicate entry, IE falls back to allowing traffic from that siteFeb 20 22:05
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MinceRi guess we should be glad they use xmlFeb 20 22:05
schestowitzand not xamlFeb 20 22:05
DaemonFChttps://secure.fanboy.co.nz/ie.htmlFeb 20 22:05
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schestowitzMS makes proprietary rubbish sound similar to XMLFeb 20 22:05
MinceRi mean not some sort of obfuscated binary memory dumpFeb 20 22:05
DaemonFChttps://secure.fanboy.co.nz/adblock/ie/fanboy-noele.tplFeb 20 22:06
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting text/plain typeFeb 20 22:06
MinceRlike DOCFeb 20 22:06
schestowitzLike they did with "Office Open XML"Feb 20 22:06
schestowitzWhat, XML?Feb 20 22:06
schestowitzNo, not OOXMlFeb 20 22:06
schestowitzblobsFeb 20 22:06
DaemonFCthere's what TPLs look likeFeb 20 22:06
schestowitzin xml enclosured :-)Feb 20 22:06
DaemonFCunfortunately they only work well enough for ad blocking in IE 9Feb 20 22:06
MinceRor obfuscated binary memory dump wrapped in XML, like OOXML :>Feb 20 22:06
schestowitz<branch>*HT&^@FGNB&^GD&^QFRE^V^DQV@FRQ</branch>Feb 20 22:06
schestowitzSee? XMLFeb 20 22:06
DaemonFCand they're not supported at all if you have IE 7 or olderFeb 20 22:06
schestowitzAnd It's Office OpenFeb 20 22:06
schestowitzLike OpenOfficeFeb 20 22:06
schestowitzBut in reverseFeb 20 22:06
MinceR<?xml version="1.0"?> <base64>sfWEFwr234WFsdf324...Feb 20 22:07
MinceR:>Feb 20 22:07
DaemonFCif you want to block ads in IE, you have to be running Windows 7 or else you can't have a version of IE that can do itFeb 20 22:07
DaemonFCbut Firefox still works on Windows 2000Feb 20 22:07
MinceReciffOnepO XMLFeb 20 22:07
DaemonFCChrome needs Windows XP or higherFeb 20 22:08
DaemonFCand some of its sandboxing features won't work without at least VistaFeb 20 22:08
DaemonFCWindows XP had no concept of "Integrity levels"Feb 20 22:09
DaemonFCand only recognized users and administratorsFeb 20 22:09
schestowitzscroogle is still deadFeb 20 22:10
schestowitzmany days running...Feb 20 22:10
DaemonFCGoogle returns no result for ScroogleFeb 20 22:10
DaemonFCthat was fastFeb 20 22:10
MinceRthere's still startpageFeb 20 22:10
schestowitzbut the whole site is downFeb 20 22:10
schestowitzand one source says DDOS might be the causeFeb 20 22:11
schestowitzstatpage is slowFeb 20 22:11
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schestowitzstartpageFeb 20 22:11
schestowitzif only it... well, startedFeb 20 22:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Council of European Union http://goo.gl/OoCE this f* idiots use ms-silverlight? HUGE #FAILFeb 20 22:11
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Formic_its more polite an "scroogle"Feb 20 22:12
Formic_and doesn't look like a 1997 tripod pageFeb 20 22:13
Formic_<cubezzz> right, it's an open net based on open standardsFeb 20 22:13
MinceRi miss when tripod pages looked like scroogleFeb 20 22:13
Formic_cjdns is open and helps you have your freedom by protecting your IDFeb 20 22:14
MinceRnow we'd just get a huge blob of trash applets and other annoying crapFeb 20 22:14
DaemonFCMinceR: THIS SITE REQUIRES ZOMG FLASH AND ZOMG JAVASCRIPT ZOMG!!!!11111111112Feb 20 22:19
DaemonFC:)Feb 20 22:19
MinceRindeedFeb 20 22:19
MinceRand you should consider yourself lucky it doesn't also demand silver lieFeb 20 22:19
DaemonFCnah, lucky that Silverlight never caught onFeb 20 22:19
Formic_yeahFeb 20 22:20
DaemonFCin fact, even mentioning it is kind of like pretending it still exists for anything but malware for WindowsFeb 20 22:20
Formic_flash, java, silverlie can track youFeb 20 22:20
DaemonFCyeah, but Flash is glorious pornFeb 20 22:20
DaemonFCand sometimes malware for WindowsFeb 20 22:20
DaemonFC:)Feb 20 22:20
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MinceRglorious malware for glorious windows!Feb 20 22:21
DaemonFCyeahFeb 20 22:22
DaemonFCand glorious Microsoft pretending that glorious lawsuits will solve the problemFeb 20 22:22
DaemonFCB-)Feb 20 22:22
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DaemonFCthe US court system is a jokeFeb 20 22:23
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DaemonFCthey let spammers sue people for calling them spammersFeb 20 22:23
DaemonFCand WINFeb 20 22:23
MinceR:>Feb 20 22:24
DaemonFCMinceR: There's a company in the UK called Spamhaus that maintains anti-spam filtersFeb 20 22:24
MinceRthey also decided that corporations are people and have freedom of speech and suchFeb 20 22:24
DaemonFCthey've been sued several times in the US, and the spammers always win because Spamhaus never defends itselfFeb 20 22:25
DaemonFCthe UK has a policy that they won't enforce lawsuit verdicts that were handed down in the absence of a defenseFeb 20 22:25
DaemonFCso the judgements are meaninglessFeb 20 22:25
DaemonFCso far they owe like several million dollars in a string of default judgements in favor of the spammersFeb 20 22:26
DaemonFCgoing back to at least 2002Feb 20 22:26
MinceR:>Feb 20 22:26
DaemonFCMinceR: But at the same time the courts are giving spammers million dollar Pyrrhic victories, they're also sending some of them to prison Feb 20 22:27
DaemonFCit just depends on if they broke the minimal anti-spam laws that exist in the USFeb 20 22:27
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DaemonFCMinceR: Indiana doesn't have an anti-spam law but we do have deceptive advertising and fraud laws that have been applied to spammersFeb 20 22:29
DaemonFC:)Feb 20 22:29
DaemonFCthey were actually passed before the internet even existedFeb 20 22:29
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DaemonFCthe way it basically works is, a state gets jurisdiction if the spammer is operating in that state, or a spammer operating in another state sends spam to residents of that stateFeb 20 22:30
DaemonFCother states have to comply with arrest warrants and extradition requests over thisFeb 20 22:30
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DaemonFCbut spam is pretty difficult to track to the original promoter Feb 20 22:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Video: #WikiLeaks & Democracy forum with @AssangeC @SenatorLudlam @MaryKostakidis @suigenerisjen http://t.co/gzsF7npxFeb 20 22:31
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DaemonFCso even if it is an American that is running this criminal enterprise, he is probably paying someone in a foreign country to design and deploy botnet malware and run the spamming operations on his behalfFeb 20 22:32
DaemonFCthere have been a few cases where that was going on and they did prove where it originatedFeb 20 22:32
DaemonFCand those people are in prison nowFeb 20 22:32
DaemonFCbut the majority will never get caughtFeb 20 22:33
DaemonFCinstead of building better software, Microsoft files Doe lawsuits against the operators of botnets (a Doe lawsuit is when you don't know who the defendant is), then a court can order *some* of the C&C servers seized and shut downFeb 20 22:34
DaemonFCit's all about perception management than actually solving the problemFeb 20 22:34
DaemonFCit's free PR tooFeb 20 22:36
DaemonFCdid I mention that?Feb 20 22:36
DaemonFCit costs Microsoft the same amount to have lawyers on retainer doing nothing or filing hilariously ineffective doe lawsuits against botnetsFeb 20 22:36
DaemonFCbut filing ineffective lawsuits creates the appearance that they're the good guys and they've always been at war with the spammers, blah blahFeb 20 22:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] #HAKT, numer 4: ur1.ca/89zpx by Ola of @hackerspacepl fame :DFeb 20 22:39
XFaCEFormic_: viva la cjdnsFeb 20 22:46
Formic_xface :)Feb 20 22:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Guest Post: Consequences To Expect If The U.S. Invades #Iran | ZeroHedge http://goo.gl/Gd6cF #usa #micFeb 20 22:51
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DaemonFCwell, I say we pull a ClintonFeb 20 22:51
DaemonFClob some cruise missilesFeb 20 22:52
DaemonFChave the rest of the world wag their fingers at usFeb 20 22:52
DaemonFCtell them to go fuck themselvesFeb 20 22:52
DaemonFC"But you bombed an antibiotic factory!"Feb 20 22:52
Formic_then cum on some intern and lie about it?Feb 20 22:52
DaemonFCWaaaaah motehrfucker waash!Feb 20 22:52
DaemonFCyep :)Feb 20 22:52
DaemonFCFormic_: Clinton didn't do anything that abnormalFeb 20 22:53
DaemonFCeveryone acted shocked when that's typically what married men and women end up doing at some pointFeb 20 22:53
DaemonFCwhether they get caught or not or if it leads to a divorce is a whole different storyFeb 20 22:54
DaemonFChumans are not meant to be monogamous, that's something we made upFeb 20 22:54
DaemonFCthere are some positive aspects to monogamy but those have nothing to do with human sexual behaviorFeb 20 22:55
MinceRgnFeb 20 22:57
fewtKernel 3.2.7 is now availableFeb 20 22:57
fewthttps://lkml.org/lkml/2012/2/20/412Feb 20 22:57
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DaemonFCfewt: stable releases are for old ladiesFeb 20 22:58
DaemonFCB-)Feb 20 22:58
fewthehFeb 20 22:58
DaemonFCactually, I have been thinking about parking myself on Kubuntu 12.04 LTSFeb 20 23:01
MinceR"if i want cutting edge, i'll buy a sword. if i want bleeding edge, i'll use it."Feb 20 23:01
DaemonFCthese last few 6 month releases have been especially badFeb 20 23:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Way cool⇒TONIGHT at 9 @timlouisjazz kicks off his new ♫Radio Show♪ 92.9 The Grand♫ http://www.thegrand929.com/ Congrats Tim! \o/ !wrawesomeFeb 20 23:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] Possibly because we don't trust modern medicine re patents & corporate profit motives? system has odd feedback loops wrt trust.Feb 20 23:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @mlinksva "How is modern medical science getting so badly out-publicized, out-communicated, and out-SEOed by quacks?" http://ur1.ca/8 ...Feb 20 23:09
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schestowitz"My kids seem to find a way to break it. " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1319509Feb 20 23:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] it may be free, but being nc abd nd it is far from Free. #tryFreeFeb 20 23:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @boskabout Dat zien we dan wel als het zo ver is ;)Feb 20 23:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @thenerd_be @ikbenmartijn Misschien wel. Ik vraag dat eens na aan onze advocaat :) /cc @yweinFeb 20 23:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Flash_Blue interesting. Thanks :)Feb 20 23:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Flash_Blue wellicht wel, maar ik heb geen studiepunten meer dit semester. Eens vragen aan de boekhouder hoe dat zit.Feb 20 23:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @iRail: Another proof of concept built with the iRail API - http://t.co/y80GhXU2 #opendataFeb 20 23:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @davyyl dat hangt af van de thermometerFeb 20 23:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Zelfstandigen op twitter die mij willen uitleggen hoe ze uit rompslomp zijn geraakt? #kafkaësk - Betal http://ur1.c ...Feb 20 23:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @ikbenmartijn @boskabout @netlash @yoniweb hoezo, open? Enkel voor intern gebruik ;)Feb 20 23:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @ikbenmartijn @boskabout @netlash @yoniweb tot je het commercieel wilt exploiteren en legaal in orde wi http://ur1. ...Feb 20 23:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @netlash @boskabout @ikbenmartijn Goed en wel, maar legaal gezien blijft het copyright-infringement.Feb 20 23:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Fiscaal zou mijn situatie er veel aantrekkelijker uitzien als ik zou huwen. Bij deze mogen kandidaten z http://ur1. ...Feb 20 23:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @boskabout ik stuurde zonet een mailtje naar Duco Sickinghe rond #opendata. Omdat het niet veel werk was. #telenetFeb 20 23:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @ikbenmartijn @boskabout @netlash @yoniweb Om verwarring te vermijden: ik ben wel degelijk fan van #tvtweets :)Feb 20 23:18
DaemonFCeasyFeb 20 23:21
DaemonFCquacks tell you whatever you want to hearFeb 20 23:21
DaemonFCeven if it isn't trueFeb 20 23:21
Formic_most of them work for the governmentFeb 20 23:23
DaemonFCwell, if the government ever tries to silence the quack(s), the quack(s) just claim that their freedom of speech is under attackFeb 20 23:24
DaemonFClike Kevin Trudeau didFeb 20 23:24
DaemonFCrepeatedlyFeb 20 23:24
Formic_its true thoughFeb 20 23:25
Formic_their freedom of speech is under attackFeb 20 23:25
Formic_they should have the right to lieFeb 20 23:25
Formic_or be crazyFeb 20 23:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @mlinksva "How is modern medical science getting so badly out-publicized, out-communicated, and out-SEOed by quacks?" http://ur1.ca/8 ...Feb 20 23:26
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DaemonFCif there's a constitutionally protected right to lie to rip people offFeb 20 23:26
DaemonFCwe need to let a lot of people out of prisonFeb 20 23:27
Formic_stupid people will get ripped offFeb 20 23:27
DaemonFCeverything from Bernie Madoff to people who committed check fraudFeb 20 23:27
Formic_think of all the stupid idiots buying windows hardwareFeb 20 23:27
DaemonFCyeah, and it should be illegalFeb 20 23:28
DaemonFCmaybe they deserve to be ripped off but I shouldn't have to suffer when Microsoft taints elections and bribes politicians with that moneyFeb 20 23:29
Formic_nothing should be illegalFeb 20 23:29
_GoblinFormic_: nothing at all?Feb 20 23:29
Formic_correctFeb 20 23:30
_Goblinabsolutely nothing?Feb 20 23:30
DaemonFCso if I kill you, then I shouldn't go to prisonFeb 20 23:30
Formic_im an anarchistFeb 20 23:30
Formic_no governmentFeb 20 23:30
_Goblinoh. ok.Feb 20 23:30
Formic_[18:29] <DaemonFC> so if I kill you, then I shouldn't go to prisonFeb 20 23:31
schestowitzrah rah rah... liberties. RON PAUKL!!Feb 20 23:31
_Goblinso everyone can do what they like?Feb 20 23:31
Formic_currently: the government doesn't go to prisonFeb 20 23:31
DaemonFCyeah, people really don't want anarchyFeb 20 23:31
schestowitzpeople want to ruleFeb 20 23:31
_GoblinFormic_: including me? no rules, no responsibility, no answering to anyone?Feb 20 23:31
schestowitzThey want monarchyFeb 20 23:31
schestowitzwhere they are on topFeb 20 23:31
sebsebseb_Goblin: see my pm :)Feb 20 23:31
DaemonFCschestowitz: Go sing god bless your queen or...somethingFeb 20 23:32
DaemonFCthe old bag must be 1,000 by nowFeb 20 23:32
schestowitzme? no wayFeb 20 23:32
DaemonFCGod keeps her aroundFeb 20 23:32
DaemonFCto do his biddingFeb 20 23:32
schestowitzGod blesses people in needFeb 20 23:32
DaemonFC:)Feb 20 23:32
schestowitznot monarchsFeb 20 23:32
Formic__Goblin - I don't assume humans are assholes in nature, without government and tyranny people just wouldn't have to do bad things to each otherFeb 20 23:32
schestowitzmonarchs think they're God (in the Einstienian sense)Feb 20 23:33
DaemonFCyou make a fatal assumptionFeb 20 23:33
_GoblinFormic_: how can fairness and justice be executed when you have to rely on the biased views of those involved?Feb 20 23:33
DaemonFCseveral reallyFeb 20 23:33
DaemonFCbut the worst one is that there even is a godFeb 20 23:33
Formic__Goblin - there is no fairness and justice with governmentFeb 20 23:33
_GoblinFormic_: for example....if I dont like you, I can ban you.....hows that fair to you?Feb 20 23:33
schestowitz_Goblin: extraditionFeb 20 23:33
DaemonFCand if he cared for people in need, then there wouldn't be millions of themFeb 20 23:33
Formic_who has been arrested for poisoning the water, the air and the food?Feb 20 23:33
schestowitzhuh?Feb 20 23:33
schestowitzender?Feb 20 23:33
Formic_who has been arrested for illegal war?Feb 20 23:33
DaemonFCand it is more likely that politicians use religion to keep the commoners in lineFeb 20 23:34
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_GoblinFormic_: but change the topic to local issues that affect me and you now...say theft of property or right to family life....Feb 20 23:34
DaemonFCit's easier to accept a shitty life where there's nothing in it for you when you are told you'll go to heaven for putting up with itFeb 20 23:34
Formic_Since Bush wasn't arrested, does that mean what he did was fair and served justice?Feb 20 23:34
_GoblinFormic_: like I say anarchy wont workFeb 20 23:34
_GoblinFormic_: because there's no fairness if anyone can do whatever they like.Feb 20 23:35
DaemonFCyeah, only some people get to do whatever they want, _GoblinFeb 20 23:35
Formic__Goblin all government has done is pass laws so that their buddies can do bad things to people and you can'tFeb 20 23:35
DaemonFCthe people in chargeFeb 20 23:35
schestowitzDaemonFC: trueFeb 20 23:35
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_GoblinFormic_: thats not answering my questionFeb 20 23:35
schestowitzpeople already do what they wantFeb 20 23:35
schestowitzjust not ALL peopleFeb 20 23:35
schestowitzonly those who own the systemFeb 20 23:35
Formic_rich people get to do whatever they want alreadyFeb 20 23:36
_GoblinFormic_: change the subject to the big topics such as war, I'd agree, nobody does seem to answer....Feb 20 23:36
schestowitzsee PIPA/ACTA and invasion of Iraq despite protestsFeb 20 23:36
Formic_even if a rich person breaks a law, the justice system is rigged in their favourFeb 20 23:36
_GoblinFormic_: what like the politicians thrown in jail for fiddling expenses?Feb 20 23:36
_GoblinFormic_: what like Jeffrey Archer?Feb 20 23:36
Formic_why does your government need warrantless wiretapping?Feb 20 23:37
_GoblinI'm sorry?Feb 20 23:37
schestowitzthat's the USFeb 20 23:37
DaemonFCschestowitz: it's anywhere the people in charge want it doneFeb 20 23:37
schestowitzcarriers do keep track of calls, but that's not wiretapping in the same sense the US does itFeb 20 23:38
Formic_there was a new law that passedFeb 20 23:38
_Goblinwell re: the internet....it doesn't need it.....nearly every ISP in the UK has its users digitally signing an agreement allowing it....no need for a warrantFeb 20 23:38
_GoblinFormic_: rubbishFeb 20 23:38
_GoblinFormic_: unless you are talking usFeb 20 23:38
Formic_yeah seeFeb 20 23:38
_Goblin*USFeb 20 23:38
_Goblinwhat law?Feb 20 23:38
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Formic_you have to agree to be tracked to get internet by signing that agreementFeb 20 23:38
_Goblinthen vote with your feetFeb 20 23:38
schestowitz!google harman wiretappingFeb 20 23:38
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Jane Harman's Wiretapped Conversations - Washington Post ... | http://voices.washingtonpost.com/washingtonpostinvestigations/2009/04/jane_harmans_mysterious_conver.htmlFeb 20 23:38
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Pelosi Now Remembers Harman Wiretap - NYTimes.com | http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/04/22/pelosi-now-remembers-harman-wiretap/Feb 20 23:38
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Congresswoman calls alleged wiretap 'abuse of power' - CNN | http://articles.cnn.com/2009-04-21/politics/harman.wiretap_1_wiretap-rep-jane-harman-national-security-agency%3F_s%3DPM:POLITICSFeb 20 23:38
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Rogue Agents Tipped Pelosi To Harman Wiretap | http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/rogue_agents_tipped_pelosi_to_harman_wiretap/Feb 20 23:38
_Goblindon't go with the ISPFeb 20 23:38
Formic_you said nearly every ISP does thatFeb 20 23:39
_Goblinyep...Feb 20 23:39
schestowitzthat would not be legal in the UK, unless you're Rupert MurdochFeb 20 23:39
_Goblinnot to do with any law you've imaginedFeb 20 23:39
Formic_why not just bypass it technologicallyFeb 20 23:39
schestowitzNor that there would not be arrests, just not arrests of Rupe :-)Feb 20 23:39
_Goblinwell you can.Feb 20 23:39
DaemonFCschestowitz: She deserved itFeb 20 23:39
_GoblinFormic_: I'm still waiting to hear this law thats come outFeb 20 23:39
Formic_they cant wiretap encrypted dataFeb 20 23:39
DaemonFCshe voted for the PATRIOT ACTFeb 20 23:39
schestowitzDaemonFC: trueFeb 20 23:39
schestowitzthey should do the same to HarmonFeb 20 23:39
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DaemonFCyou know, it WAS HarmanFeb 20 23:40
schestowitzmnot Harmon?Feb 20 23:40
_GoblinHarriot Harmon?Feb 20 23:40
DaemonFCuntil the army messed up my grandfather's nameFeb 20 23:40
schestowitzYour maiden nameFeb 20 23:40
DaemonFCand it stuck as "Harmon"Feb 20 23:40
schestowitzLOLFeb 20 23:40
schestowitzmaking typo the normFeb 20 23:40
schestowitzThere's also Hermann and HermanFeb 20 23:41
Formic_there is a canadian lawful access online spying lawFeb 20 23:41
schestowitzUsually German descentFeb 20 23:41
Formic_perhaps I mixed it up with UKFeb 20 23:41
Formic_nobody is perfectFeb 20 23:41
_GoblinFormic_: or maybe you made it up?Feb 20 23:41
_GoblinFormic_: no such law.Feb 20 23:42
Formic_why would you assume i'm being devious?Feb 20 23:42
Formic_I can't make a mistake, I can only make up shit?Feb 20 23:42
_Goblinbecause....I think Roy would agree my grasp of criminal and civil law is quite extensive....Feb 20 23:42
schestowitzit would be known and people would be up in arms if the PATRIOT ACT equiv. was instated hereFeb 20 23:42
_Goblinand because...Feb 20 23:42
schestowitzThere's Echelon though, it's an intl' problemFeb 20 23:42
_Goblina new law is something which hits the papers and press....Feb 20 23:43
schestowitzFormic_: maybe you misread somethingFeb 20 23:43
_Goblinits not likely to slip through unnoticed... especially one like you suggestedFeb 20 23:43
Formic_i was pretty sure i saw it but considering i dont live in the UK, i didnt bookmark it or keep track of itFeb 20 23:43
schestowitzin the US you can wiretap and use thatFeb 20 23:43
schestowitzIn the Uk you'd break the law doing itFeb 20 23:43
Formic_the US, everything is wiretappedFeb 20 23:43
schestowitzThat's the differenceFeb 20 23:43
Formic_anyone visiting a US based site is being trackedFeb 20 23:44
_GoblinFormic_: then I suggest in future before claiming as fact you should check it out...its not difficult a google search would do it.Feb 20 23:44
_Goblinthen use a proxyFeb 20 23:44
_Goblincan we move on?Feb 20 23:44
schestowitzLOL Obama promised to repeal itFeb 20 23:44
schestowitzWhat a failFeb 20 23:44
Formic_i think its important that people are able to legally hide who they areFeb 20 23:45
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schestowitz"Windows -- simplicity?!?!? Hahahahaha!" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1320589Feb 20 23:45
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_GoblinFormic_: they canFeb 20 23:45
Formic_not on unencrypted regular internetFeb 20 23:45
_GoblinFormic_: certainly here in the UK its no offense to hide you ID onlineFeb 20 23:45
schestowitzotherwise they can be bannedFeb 20 23:45
Formic_in the US, use of an anonymizing proxy at a public terminal is terrorism!!Feb 20 23:45
schestowitz[20:39] <Formic_> techrights should open a channel up on subluminalFeb 20 23:45
schestowitz[20:40] <Formic_> an irc server on the cjdns darknetFeb 20 23:45
schestowitzSo Brandon...Feb 20 23:46
_GoblinFormic_: any UK resident can legally hide their IP, encrypt their data....stop talking rubbishFeb 20 23:46
schestowitzHow goes it?Feb 20 23:46
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_Goblinschestowitz: Brandon claims he doesn't nym shift....it can't be him ;)Feb 20 23:46
schestowitzhe's not himFeb 20 23:46
schestowitz[23:45] <Formic_> i think its important that people are able to legally hide who they areFeb 20 23:46
_Goblinmind you, that logic certainly sounds like BrandonFeb 20 23:47
_Goblinarguing about something that already exists.Feb 20 23:47
Formic_you have me mixed up with someone I thinkFeb 20 23:48
Formic_that's not my nameFeb 20 23:48
_Goblinno probsFeb 20 23:48
_Goblinthis is anarchy remember....we can do as we pleaseFeb 20 23:48
_Goblinso don't whineFeb 20 23:48
_Goblinno rules.Feb 20 23:48
_Goblinno responsibilityFeb 20 23:48
Formic_this channel is under anarchy?Feb 20 23:48
Formic_is it schestowitz ?Feb 20 23:48
_Goblinfor now yes...Feb 20 23:48
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subversive_Activities_Control_ActFeb 20 23:48
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Formic_wasn't aware that there were official anarchy channelsFeb 20 23:49
_Goblinits like a happy hourFeb 20 23:49
_Goblinan anarchy hourFeb 20 23:49
schestowitzanarchy is misunderstoodFeb 20 23:49
Formic_does everyone get ops? or does everyone turn ops off?Feb 20 23:49
schestowitzit dosn't imply conflictFeb 20 23:49
_Goblinnow...what to do with my new found anarchy.....Feb 20 23:49
schestowitzjust not rulersFeb 20 23:49
schestowitzthere are many forms of anarchismFeb 20 23:49
schestowitzI think wikipedia has a good list of themFeb 20 23:49
_GoblinFormic_: no everyone doesn't get ops......see? this anarchy is not fair...I'm not giving you op's and I don't have to answer to anyone.Feb 20 23:50
schestowitzlast I checked anyway, because some intellectuals too choose a camp among those that exist there, some are hybrids Feb 20 23:50
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_GoblinFormic_: If I were you I'd stick to imagining some more laws.Feb 20 23:50
_GoblinDid you know theres a UK law introduced that makes it illegal to be stupid in IRC? ;)Feb 20 23:51
Formic_schestowitz - I detect a threatening tone from one of your opsFeb 20 23:51
_Goblinwho me?Feb 20 23:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Gettys: Diagnosing Bufferbloat http://ur1.ca/8a0mtFeb 20 23:51
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_Goblinthis is anarchyFeb 20 23:51
_Goblintough luckFeb 20 23:51
_Goblinor had you forgotten?Feb 20 23:51
_Goblinnobody to whine to.....Feb 20 23:52
Formic_yeah but I can't exactly use anarchy myselfFeb 20 23:52
_Goblinexactly....Feb 20 23:52
_Goblinso what do you do...Feb 20 23:52
_Goblinwhen your neighbour comes around with a semi and his mates and wants your carFeb 20 23:53
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_Goblinwho do you whine to then in your anarchy world?Feb 20 23:53
Formic_then I pull out my AK-47Feb 20 23:53
_Goblinright...Feb 20 23:53
Formic_ratta tat tatFeb 20 23:53
_GoblinI see the level we are working with nowFeb 20 23:53
_Goblinsounds great this anarchy world of yours.Feb 20 23:53
Formic_you see though, if the world was really under anarchy and you used that freedom to do something to me in this channelFeb 20 23:54
Formic_i couldn't exactly use anarchy myselfFeb 20 23:54
_Goblinyou could create your own channelFeb 20 23:54
_Goblinand spout thereFeb 20 23:54
Formic_so your not really using anarchy, you're using monarchyFeb 20 23:54
_Goblinthen you'll address me as your majesty.Feb 20 23:54
*_Goblin is now known as KingFeb 20 23:55
*King is now known as KingGoblinFeb 20 23:55
Formic_lolFeb 20 23:55
KingGoblinRight my loyal subjects....One must go for a smoke.Feb 20 23:56
sebsebsebKingGoblin: smoking is bad!Feb 20 23:56
sebsebsebfor your healthFeb 20 23:57
sebsebseband the health of other people if to close to youFeb 20 23:57
scienteshahaFeb 20 23:57
Formic_let him smokeFeb 20 23:57
Formic_lolFeb 20 23:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Stable kernel updates 3.2.7 and 3.0.22 http://ur1.ca/8a0p0Feb 20 23:58
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sebsebsebFormic_: I don't seem to have a choice, my KingGoblin remote control device, isn't working :(Feb 20 23:58
KingGoblinsebsebseb: I think you should end that with a southpark "Mmmkkay" as for the health of others I go outsideFeb 20 23:58
sebsebsebKingGoblin: yeah Mr Macky :DFeb 20 23:58
KingGoblinWhilst I'm gone....Feb 20 23:59
KingGoblinI annoint you Sebsebseb....Feb 20 23:59
KingGoblinRise Knight SebsebsebFeb 20 23:59
*KingGoblin gives channel operator status to sebsebsebFeb 20 23:59

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