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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Fancy a computer one billion times faster than the one you're reading this on? http://t. http://p.ost.im/p/exShJW | Feb 20 00:06 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @guardiantech: OpenStreetMap: 'It's the Wikipedia of maps' http://t.co/tCfRDlii http://p.ost.im/p/ex8K7F | Feb 20 00:06 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Our Man Bildt - 6 part profile on Sweden's "Dick Cheney", foreign minister Carl Bildt | Rixstep http://t.co/wmntDsP5 | Feb 20 00:21 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] How we "hacked" FOX to report the war in Afghanistan: 500th episode of The Simpsons, tonight at 8PM EST w/Julian Assange | Feb 20 00:31 | |
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schestowitz | hi all | Feb 20 00:41 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Apparently "Safe House" with Denzil Washington is has a WikiLeaks derived plot. Is that true? | Feb 20 00:41 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I'm still so angry about #UofT and #Western signing the absurd #AccessCopyright agreement http://www.ur1.ca/89c2sn !CDNpoli | Feb 20 00:58 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] DMCA Takedown Service Tells !Copyright Companies: ‘Adapt Your Business To The New Digital World’ http://www.ur1.ca/89drc << !CDNpoli !C11 | Feb 20 00:59 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #China backs Assad as forces open fire | COLLAPSENET http://goo.gl/w0S7u #nato's blackops is over... | Feb 20 01:03 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Oil. Food. Water. The Great Resource Race Is on | COLLAPSENET http://goo.gl/GUSno #collapse | Feb 20 01:06 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] cryptogon.com » Saudi Arabia Cuts Oil Output http://goo.gl/oMWXr #peakoil in all it's glory | Feb 20 01:09 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Announcement: @bkuhn (and legions of interested others) shall have 4 days to copy currently nondestroyed dents. #denticideispainless | Feb 20 01:13 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @vanden Code! Why you not do what I think you do? | Feb 20 01:16 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The Triumph of Silence: Carl Bildt, Sweden and Lundin Oil http://t.co/7QocsCDX | Feb 20 01:21 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] GREEK D-DAY: SLOG US SOURCE CONFIRMS WALL ST PLANS AS SECRET BERLIN TIMETABLE EMERGES | COLLAPSENET http://goo.gl/UqkdF #eu #collapse | Feb 20 01:28 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ONE NICE things about vacations is that they leave visions and sights in one’s mind. From the special suite at th http://ur1.ca/89eid | Feb 20 01:38 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] THE task of comparing atomically-meaningful 3-D surfaces is not simple. The plethora of diffusion-based techniques have http://ur1.ca/89eie | Feb 20 01:38 | |
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XFaCE | hi | Feb 20 01:57 |
Formic_ | high | Feb 20 02:01 |
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walterbyrd | I keep logging in, but I cannot leave a comment. I keep getting "you must be logged in to leave a comment" | Feb 20 02:06 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] "Working Your Way into the Buddhist Community « Dharma Folk" http://ur1.ca/89fbi | Feb 20 02:14 | |
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XFaCE | Formic_: you are? :P | Feb 20 02:18 |
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scientes_ | where can i get something like this: http://search.digikey.com/us/en/products/1888540-1/A35076-ND/1246898 but only eSATA, and only 1, instead of minimum order=1080 units | Feb 20 02:38 |
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scientes_ | this is my order items http://mark.ossdl.de/2010/03/daily-digest-for-2010-03-11-2/ | Feb 20 02:38 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] A Responsible Citizen Not Only Shares Culture, But Destroys The Copyright Industries http://goo.gl/BxiAg | Feb 20 02:41 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] sudo yum install #maven -> Install 210 Packages !disturbing | Feb 20 03:04 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] North Korea has genuine issues to address as well. The border with the south as drawn by the USA over sea areas is illegal. But who .. | Feb 20 04:24 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] .. cares about the law? | Feb 20 04:24 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] mutt tip: ESC E to "bounce" mail with attachments - http://ur1.ca/89guy #fb | Feb 20 04:28 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] .. own benefit. | Feb 20 04:51 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Plain cigarette packets 'illiberal' http://goo.gl/MUKQ8 we demand the right to kill people & profit from it #BigTobacco #PR | Feb 20 06:41 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Plain cigarette packets 'illiberal' | UK news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 56.8 KB | Feb 20 06:41 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Secret justice: private consultations http://gu.com/p/35t6y | Feb 20 06:48 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Editorial | Secret justice: private consultations | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 210.26 KB | Feb 20 06:48 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] basic internet training is the answer http://goo.gl/4YUCs check the fucking email address #simples scam foiled at birth | Feb 20 06:51 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The readers' editor on… an unusual identity thief using a fake Guardian persona | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 296.89 KB | Feb 20 06:51 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The #Simpsons' 500th episode airs http://goo.gl/2HU0K #wikileaks #assange | Feb 20 06:58 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Leaky Cellphone Nets Can Give Attackers Your Location http://goo.gl/NV1Ca | Feb 20 07:01 | |
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schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1311222 "What is the relevance? Just curious. " | Feb 20 08:12 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if #Hollywood was about "art" "culture" & "creativity" folks like #MichaelBay would be run out of town, not celebrated as heros #MPAA | Feb 20 08:29 | |
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schestowitz | http://twitter.com/q23p/statuses/171447475633262592 | Feb 20 08:54 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @q23p: @schestowitz i couldn't even boot it. Stuck after finding bootloader | Feb 20 08:54 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] The Document Foundation officially incorporated in Berlin, Germany: http://wp.me/p1byPE-eW !libo !tdf | Feb 20 09:04 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Beware the Ides of March! http://ur1.ca/89lfy | Feb 20 09:04 | |
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schestowitz | http://twitter.com/askmeaks/statuses/171440213929885696 | Feb 20 09:05 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @askmeaks: Via @opensourceway Why the #patent system doesn't play well with software: If Eolas went the other way http://t.co/kSva3MR9 #SWPAT | Feb 20 09:05 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] GNU/LInux Sold Retail in Brazil http://ur1.ca/89ljv #brazil #gnu #linux | Feb 20 09:11 | |
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schestowitz | http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericsavitz/2012/02/15/sandisk-buys-flashsoft/ | Feb 20 09:13 |
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schestowitz | whoa | Feb 20 09:13 |
MinceR | geekings | Feb 20 09:15 |
schestowitz | I c... | Feb 20 09:21 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Awesome. Fritzing Lab. Now to combine that with 3D printing - http://ur1.ca/89lst #fb | Feb 20 09:29 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Canada threatens EU over #tarsands - http://bit.ly/wnVGp5 may not export any more moosen #energy | Feb 20 09:34 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New version of phIRCe, the #Techrights channels IRC bot, is out http://ur1.ca/89lv8 thanks to @qu1j0t3 | Feb 20 09:36 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The arduino documentary - http://bit.ly/wcc0qO "story of #arduino from a concept to bringing a new genre to open source hardware revisited" | Feb 20 09:39 | |
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schestowitz | XFaCE: o hi | Feb 20 09:41 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux pays http://ur1.ca/86mxm http://goo.gl/MI3V3 trends in IT... | Feb 20 09:43 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux job ads this week are self explanatory http://goo.gl/HUPMQ http://ur1.ca/89m1f / | Feb 20 09:49 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Another #WindowsXP to #Fedora 16 Linux migration http://goo.gl/K5cQQ #gnu #linux | Feb 20 09:59 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Corporate publishers keep insulting scholars - http://bit.ly/zks9q7 whoa, things really hotting up here #elsevier #boycott #openaccess | Feb 20 10:01 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Shining Light On #ACTA's Lack Of #Transparency - http://bit.ly/zMMhqa in case you missed this at the weekend: need to get the word out | Feb 20 10:04 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] CrypTweet: Strong #Encryption for Twitter DMs - http://bit.ly/AD1p9g cool & important (but a bit complicated for ordinary users)# | Feb 20 10:06 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ORG London February Pub Meetup - #ACTA - http://bit.ly/y0Y0RG tonight | Feb 20 10:08 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google’s New ‘Dart’ Language to Get a Starring Role in #Chrome http://goo.gl/x1BT7 #dart | Feb 20 10:08 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Carla Bruni : "Internet ou les jeux vidéo sont bien plus diaboliques que la TV" - http://bit.ly/AwB5Pg just like her hub #sarkozy | Feb 20 10:08 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Motorola Droid XYBOARD/XOOM 2 Root Method By Dan Rosenberg Now Available http://ur1.ca/89mb9... http://b1t.it/aSKU | Feb 20 10:09 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Oooh! Dutchies! http://ur1.ca/89mbb #nuffsaid | Feb 20 10:09 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #DataJournalism Awards – Call for Entries! - http://bit.ly/wA7TES "open to media cos, non-profit organisations, freelancers & individuals" | Feb 20 10:14 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] HTML5 http://ur1.ca/89mdv | Feb 20 10:14 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Spark Linux Tablet Up for Pre-Order, Dev Discusses Economics of Project http://goo.gl/4X6E9 #kde | Feb 20 10:16 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The DIY 'Maker Movement' Meets the VCs - http://buswk.co/AsUSuV and some VCs don't get it, poor dears (v @mbauwens) #openhardware | Feb 20 10:18 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "I have switched Linux Mint 12 KDE to the Netbook desktop, and as always it looks nice and is a pleasure to use" http://goo.gl/jbc6t #kde | Feb 20 10:18 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Disappointed! My dear followers! Please fix this bug. Send a few bucks to patch this :-) http://ur1.ca/89mgn... http://b1t.it/aSK8 | Feb 20 10:19 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Baidu has got "Linux-based Yi mobile platform." http://ur1.ca/89mgx #linux | Feb 20 10:19 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux is hard. It's hard to break, it's hard to beat, and it has hardened versions that improve security. #Linux is very hard. | Feb 20 10:23 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] πω πω δυσκολο πρωινό ξύπνημα!καλημέρα κόσμε. | Feb 20 10:23 | |
schestowitz | "Now, I thought it's one of the ACTA protests " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1319412 | Feb 20 10:24 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Preserve languages for the next generation w/ FOSS http://goo.gl/vOQ9V self-determination, not a business decision | Feb 20 10:24 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ඩනිෂ්කගේ දින පොත | Danishka's Diary: Your Language! Your Freedom! preserve it for the next generation!! .::. Size~: 137.96 KB | Feb 20 10:24 |
schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/90868515 | Feb 20 10:26 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Sander (sandersch)'s status on Monday, 20-Feb-12 10:24:17 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz but it's not hard to learn, hard to use or hard to get. ;-p | Feb 20 10:26 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] LG Optimus LTE Tag Customizes Itself Using #NFC Stickers - http://on.mash.to/xZ7RQ7 this is clever; will be common, I suspect | Feb 20 10:26 | |
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MinceR | could just use the camera and QR code stickers | Feb 20 10:28 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Goldman Sachs caught in a Sharia Catch-22 http://goo.gl/X6Fx5 #GoldmanSachs & corrupt CEO still in place. GS not beheaded. | Feb 20 10:29 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Oracle withdraws patent claim and demands less compensation - http://bit.ly/wJif20 so what was that about #android being in trouble here? | Feb 20 10:29 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA before the European Parliament - http://bit.ly/xG7ybx what will and could happen next | Feb 20 10:31 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Heads should roll. But, of course, they won't. - http://bit.ly/y28dKV shocking privacy abuses in #ireland | Feb 20 10:33 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] "Don't Be Fooled By 'Don't Be Evil' from http://identi.ca/url/66888926 | Feb 20 10:33 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @charlesschulz We are Foundation. Expect us. #occupydocuments #occupyopenoffice #tdf #libreoffice | Feb 20 10:43 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody #Oracle withdraws patent claim and demands less compensation - http://bit.ly/wJif20 so what was that about #android being ... | Feb 20 10:43 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Football rights value soars in wake of TV Now lawsuit - http://bit.ly/xioJJK oh, look, the sky is *rising* again... | Feb 20 10:44 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] "Book Publishers ‘Shut Down’ http://identi.ca/url/39557855 and iFile-it | TorrentFreak" from http://identi.ca/url/66889411 | Feb 20 10:46 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @glynmoody: Heads should roll. But, of course, they won't. - http://bit.ly/y28dKV shocking privacy abuses in #ireland | Feb 20 10:48 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] still waiting on the #Sun's career killing stories with lurid details on the Sun journos arrested in dawn raids....oh wait | Feb 20 10:49 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Android app to control #arduino - http://bit.ly/zNfUdL great combination | Feb 20 10:51 | |
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iophk | http://www.debian.org/News/2012/20120219 | Feb 20 11:03 |
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iophk | No more Mono in Debian, then? | Feb 20 11:03 |
iophk | http://www.debian.org/legal/patent | Feb 20 11:03 |
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iophk | "Debian will not knowingly distribute software encumbered by patents;" | Feb 20 11:04 |
iophk | Patents aside, it was garbage anyway. | Feb 20 11:06 |
Diablo-D3 | OH REALLY? | Feb 20 11:06 |
Diablo-D3 | TIME TO MOVE MONO TO NON-FREE | Feb 20 11:06 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Eternal #Copyright: a modest proposal - http://tgr.ph/AEwO3W why didn't I see this before? the solution to all our problems (v @Asher_Wolf) | Feb 20 11:09 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Oppose the UK's Communications Capabilities Development Plan - http://bit.ly/xR6pId epetition against total #surveillance | Feb 20 11:14 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Created a Reprap page here on Google+, enjoy! http://ur1.ca/89n95 | Feb 20 11:19 | |
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iophk | Moving Mono to non-free would be a good start, but it does not belong in the distro at all. | Feb 20 11:31 |
iophk | It's not being used a stepping stone away from M$ .Net, but instead used to inject it into once free projects. | Feb 20 11:31 |
oiaohm | Mono patent status has never been fully resolved. | Feb 20 11:40 |
oiaohm | So use mono you still might require paying MS. | Feb 20 11:40 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #LibreOffice Foundation Symbolises Maturity - http://bit.ly/zEu2nG useful update on all fronts | Feb 20 11:41 | |
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iophk | The Debian policy does not do a good job of addressing vague or unspecified claims like M$ makes. | Feb 20 11:49 |
MinceR | so, when will debian stop installing mono on default GUI installs? | Feb 20 11:56 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 97 Las Vegas Karaoke Locations Sued By 'Righthaven Of #Trademarks' Demanding $500 Million - http://bit.ly/x6xYYv more madness | Feb 20 12:03 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] που'ναι ο @cocobilly οεο;; @radiobubble | Feb 20 12:04 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Mwuhahahaha :-) http://ur1.ca/89oz5 | Feb 20 12:29 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @verdorama FreeFileSync - Visual folder comparison and synchronization: http://ur1.ca/89pex | Feb 20 12:41 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #usa #collapse RT @rms: Tent Cities http://ur1.ca/89p1t | Feb 20 12:41 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Install VLC 2.0 In Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot http://ur1.ca/89pic #video #software #gnu #linux #vlc #videolan #microsoft #windows | Feb 20 12:43 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody #LibreOffice Foundation Symbolises Maturity - http://bit.ly/zEu2nG useful update on all fronts | Feb 20 12:43 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] Σας ευχαριστω ολους για τη θερμη υποδοχη του @radiobubble app.stay tuned στο !rbandroid για οτι εχει σχεση με την εφαρμογη. | Feb 20 12:44 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Final Score on #Spectrum Legislation: Bad Stuff Averted, Good Stuff Made Possible. I Call That A Win. - http://bit.ly/zPmO85 OK, then | Feb 20 12:49 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ha! don't miss the wonderful avatar here: http://bit.ly/y6sR9q I do hope this spreads... #sarkozy #censorship | Feb 20 12:53 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Ziua României la Colegiul Europei din Belgia http://ur1.ca/89px4 #romania #belgia #europe #eu #monarchy #royal | Feb 20 12:53 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #OMS adia publicação de estudos sobre vírus mutado da gripe das aves - Ciências - PUBLICO.PT http://goo.gl/kAL3J #h5n1 #scitek #bigpharma | Feb 20 12:54 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Passos muda discurso do “nem mais tempo, nem mais dinheiro” - PUBLICO.PT http://goo.gl/jD6tr #pt #ppc #collapse #march23 | Feb 20 12:59 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Microsoft sees the future is trust? http://goo.gl/Czihp rofl from a company who spends a fortune sewing #FUD & #propaganda | Feb 20 13:01 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] STUDY: Așa zisa piraterie online nu a dăunat muzicii, ci dimpotrivă! http://ur1.ca/89q9j #music #acta #law #copyright #business #romania | Feb 20 13:03 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Citrus – A #LibreOffice Interface for Today http://goo.gl/gyJNJ #flosstools | Feb 20 13:03 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] On the W3C CSS Working Group blog, "Everything You Ever Wanted to Know about the CSSWG -webkit- Discussions" http://kwz.me/bH | Feb 20 13:16 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Duminică 19 februarie, la Săvârșin în parc http://ur1.ca/89qno #romania #monarchy #arad #savarsin | Feb 20 13:18 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Cryptweet - Strong Encryption for #Twitter http://goo.gl/hhoMk #freedomtools vi@jmcest | Feb 20 13:19 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @nwalrave @momobxl http://t.co/5HIH9zsd - Ik heb daar even vervelend gedaan en HTML-slides gebruikt ;) | Feb 20 13:19 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Astăzi, la Timişoara, în Piaţa Operei, pentru Monarhie http://ur1.ca/89qqd #timisoara #rege #romania #monarhie #royal #europe | Feb 20 13:21 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Install VLC 2.0 In !Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot http://identi.ca/url/66897640 | Feb 20 13:23 | |
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DaemonFC | http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Horde-Groupware-contains-backdoor-1433972.html | Feb 20 13:26 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Nuclear Plant Safety Report on USB Stick Lost By Official - Security&Risk http://goo.gl/r2yFJ and they want this? http://goo.gl/VUoXP #uk | Feb 20 13:33 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Just had a talk on an !ACTA debate on Silesian University in Katowice, #Poland. Seems it went well. :) | Feb 20 13:38 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 8 Lessons From Nortel's 10-Year Security Breach - #Security - Informationweek http://goo.gl/Heook it's hard to do worst than this! | Feb 20 13:46 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Getting ready for launch. First root filesystem available for download #RaspberryPi http://ur1.ca/884ir | Feb 20 13:53 | |
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DaemonFC | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Linux-Mint-developer-releases-Cinnamon-1-3-1437599.html | Feb 20 13:56 |
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DaemonFC | The better GNOME than GNOME is updated | Feb 20 13:56 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ilustragrupo: Livros em Domínio Público http://goo.gl/d5XQs Alguém interessado em rebater estes pontos? o Ricardo Antunes trabalha cá em PT | Feb 20 13:58 | |
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MinceR | if it's better, is it really gnome? :> | Feb 20 13:58 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Why does Wired continue to publish bullshit stories with sensationalist headlines? http://identi.ca/url/66899356 | Feb 20 13:59 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Save your brains: Get the #opensource guide to the zombie apocalypse by @suehle | http://red.ht/wvDC1Z | Feb 20 14:01 | |
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DaemonFC | MinceR: It's kind of a rolling fork of GNOME | Feb 20 14:02 |
DaemonFC | they rebase their fork on upstream GNOME from time to time | Feb 20 14:02 |
DaemonFC | it's like Ubuntu to Debian | Feb 20 14:02 |
DaemonFC | so yes, it really is GNOME to the extent that Ubuntu is more or less Debian | Feb 20 14:03 |
eebrah | DaemonFC: What is this "better GNOME"? | Feb 20 14:03 |
DaemonFC | but, their design approach couldn't be more different than GNOME | Feb 20 14:03 |
DaemonFC | eebrah: Cinnamon | Feb 20 14:04 |
DaemonFC | they fork GNOME 3.x and make it usable again | Feb 20 14:04 |
eebrah | DaemonFC: Oh OK, caryy on .. | Feb 20 14:04 |
Diablo-D3 | I think its called xfce | Feb 20 14:04 |
eebrah | *carry on | Feb 20 14:04 |
*Diablo-D3 snickers | Feb 20 14:04 | |
DaemonFC | it looks and feels like a modernized GNOME 2 | Feb 20 14:04 |
MinceR | afaik xfce is not a gnome fork :> | Feb 20 14:04 |
MinceR | just a usable DE | Feb 20 14:04 |
DaemonFC | they even brought back desktop effects in their Mutter fork | Feb 20 14:04 |
*eebrah likes his GNOME3 | Feb 20 14:04 | |
*eebrah also likes is GNOME2 | Feb 20 14:05 | |
*MinceR likes his XFCE and OpenBox | Feb 20 14:05 | |
DaemonFC | well, GNOME Shell and Unity are both crap, they each do things better and worse than the other one | Feb 20 14:05 |
DaemonFC | and it's nice that there are alternatives to both of them because it's hard to tell which I hate more | Feb 20 14:05 |
DaemonFC | but if it was JUST Unity and GNOME Shell it would be like asking if you prefer Democrats or Republicans | Feb 20 14:06 |
MinceR | :> | Feb 20 14:06 |
MinceR | what does unity do better? | Feb 20 14:06 |
*MinceR forgot | Feb 20 14:06 | |
DaemonFC | "I don't know. If you put it like that, maybe I hate that one a little less" | Feb 20 14:06 |
DaemonFC | well, Unity lets you maximize and minimize to a taskbar | Feb 20 14:07 |
MinceR | ic | Feb 20 14:07 |
DaemonFC | and it doesn't hide messages from your instant messenger like GNOME Shell does | Feb 20 14:07 |
DaemonFC | so I suppose I hate Unity less | Feb 20 14:07 |
DaemonFC | but it does plenty to annoy me | Feb 20 14:07 |
DaemonFC | GNOME Shell decided to deprecate the system tray as well, only instead of reimplementing one you can't right click on that only certain things can run in.....they just hid it | Feb 20 14:08 |
DaemonFC | and there's no way to force it to show itself | Feb 20 14:08 |
DaemonFC | because YOUDONTNEEDTOSEEXCHATBLINKINGATYOULULZ!!! | Feb 20 14:08 |
DaemonFC | WHYWOULDYOUNEEDTHAT? | Feb 20 14:08 |
DaemonFC | ROFL! | Feb 20 14:08 |
DaemonFC | among other stupid fucking bullshit | Feb 20 14:09 |
fewt | That reminds me, someone sent a patch for Jupiter that fixes some stupid GNOME 3 system tray crap | Feb 20 14:09 |
fewt | I should merge that in. :D | Feb 20 14:09 |
DaemonFC | GNOME 3 just means that the third generation of idiots has rewritten GNOME | Feb 20 14:09 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma, @kelzOKO If possible please check on and report on the availability of #Orange 3G where you are @. The GSM variety, not bastard CDMA | Feb 20 14:09 | |
DaemonFC | that's all it means | Feb 20 14:09 |
DaemonFC | third generation of idiots | Feb 20 14:10 |
DaemonFC | and if they somehow ever get it stabilized and usable and all the features you want? | Feb 20 14:10 |
DaemonFC | GNOME 4 is out ZOMG!!! | Feb 20 14:10 |
DaemonFC | it's a rolling campaign to spend several years making your desktop suck less and less until you can finally almost use it and then they whisk it away and shout PSYCH!! | Feb 20 14:11 |
DaemonFC | GNOME is just ridiculous | Feb 20 14:11 |
DaemonFC | KDE has done this once since 1998, ONCE | Feb 20 14:11 |
DaemonFC | GNOME has done it three times | Feb 20 14:12 |
DaemonFC | at some point all the fun tasks are done and all that's left is fixing bugs | Feb 20 14:12 |
DaemonFC | and of course none of them want to do that because it isn't fun | Feb 20 14:12 |
DaemonFC | so it's time to rewrite everything, again | Feb 20 14:13 |
DaemonFC | going through bug reports is time and effort | Feb 20 14:13 |
DaemonFC | even if all you have to do is look at one, decide immediately that it's invalid, and close it, it cost you some time and effort | Feb 20 14:13 |
DaemonFC | why do that when they can just close them all by throwing away millions of lines of code and starting over? | Feb 20 14:14 |
fewt | GNOME 2 was in great shape when it got dumped | Feb 20 14:14 |
fewt | is in great shape. | Feb 20 14:14 |
fewt | very usable, very stable, very mature | Feb 20 14:14 |
DaemonFC | yeah, but all the fun stuff was done | Feb 20 14:15 |
fewt | lets erase it and start over! | Feb 20 14:15 |
DaemonFC | all that was left was fixing bugs | Feb 20 14:15 |
DaemonFC | which is not fun | Feb 20 14:15 |
fewt | right | Feb 20 14:15 |
DaemonFC | start over! | Feb 20 14:15 |
fewt | that's a big problem with OSS, there is no motivation to fix problems | Feb 20 14:15 |
DaemonFC | have to justify themselves being around and working on something | Feb 20 14:15 |
DaemonFC | so they dig ditches all day and fill them all back in the next | Feb 20 14:15 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 20 14:15 |
fewt | which is why we find bugs and security holes that go unfixed for months at a time. | Feb 20 14:15 |
Diablo-D3 | gnome 2 has always been shit | Feb 20 14:15 |
Diablo-D3 | xfce has more functionality, starts up faster, and uses less memory than gnome 2 | Feb 20 14:16 |
fewt | 1,000,000 eyes just isn't true. :( | Feb 20 14:16 |
DaemonFC | most of the bug fixes that come in are from enterprise distributions | Feb 20 14:16 |
fewt | XFCE is pretty great, but not quite as good as GNOME 2 in the usability department. I think the next release will surpass it though. | Feb 20 14:16 |
fewt | but XFCE still uses GTK2 | Feb 20 14:16 |
DaemonFC | the ones with the big money customers that hit a snag and someone working at Red Hat or SUSE fixes it | Feb 20 14:16 |
fewt | DaemonFC: +1 but they only work on things that they ship. | Feb 20 14:17 |
DaemonFC | Red Hat and SUSE both ship KDE | Feb 20 14:17 |
DaemonFC | and officially support it | Feb 20 14:17 |
Diablo-D3 | fewt: thats a lie. | Feb 20 14:17 |
Diablo-D3 | xfce is just as usable | Feb 20 14:17 |
fewt | What is a lie? | Feb 20 14:17 |
fewt | In your opinion | Feb 20 14:17 |
Diablo-D3 | name one thing gnome2 can do that xfce cant | Feb 20 14:17 |
fewt | that doesn't make my comment a lie | Feb 20 14:17 |
Diablo-D3 | opinions have nothing to do with facts. | Feb 20 14:17 |
fewt | I didn't say it couldn't | Feb 20 14:17 |
DaemonFC | no major enterprise distributions are shipping GNOME 3 yet | Feb 20 14:17 |
fewt | I said it wasn't as usable, I didn't say it wasn't usable | Feb 20 14:18 |
fewt | it is not as trivial to configure things | Feb 20 14:18 |
DaemonFC | in fact, I don't think there's a single distribution with paid support options that ships it | Feb 20 14:18 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Some time today my @OrangeKenya 3G connection cut out and now I am on EDGE. Suffering withdrawal symptoms. I NEED MY 3G | Feb 20 14:18 | |
fewt | in XFCE, where do you configure hibernate or lid switch function? | Feb 20 14:18 |
DaemonFC | once it does go out like that you'll start getting thousands of bug reports closed by the distributions that officially support it | Feb 20 14:18 |
DaemonFC | I think it's just as much about keeping software with bugs around forever as it is with Microsoft | Feb 20 14:19 |
DaemonFC | always bugs = always someone paying you to support and fix them | Feb 20 14:19 |
MinceR | 151534 < fewt> XFCE is pretty great, but not quite as good as GNOME 2 in the usability department. I think the next release will surpass it though. | Feb 20 14:20 |
MinceR | i disagree | Feb 20 14:20 |
DaemonFC | I think the real story behind the hit on GNOME 2 is just as much about it stabilizing to the point where businesses felt as safe using CentOS or something | Feb 20 14:20 |
Diablo-D3 | fewt: that has nothing to do with xfce | Feb 20 14:20 |
fewt | Diablo-D3: Are you sure about that? | Feb 20 14:20 |
MinceR | 151719 < fewt> in XFCE, where do you configure hibernate or lid switch function? | Feb 20 14:21 |
fewt | MinceR: fair enough, it was just an observation. | Feb 20 14:21 |
MinceR | power manager settings | Feb 20 14:21 |
Diablo-D3 | fewt: although I think you mean "what is the clearly marked power control panel" | Feb 20 14:21 |
MinceR | obviously :> | Feb 20 14:21 |
DaemonFC | RHEL and SUSE will need new software with fresh bugs to spring on people | Feb 20 14:21 |
Diablo-D3 | er, power manager | Feb 20 14:21 |
DaemonFC | to keep them running into problems and too afraid to not buy support | Feb 20 14:21 |
DaemonFC | so enter GNOME 3 | Feb 20 14:21 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] http://ur1.ca/89rrl /cc @nj3ma @kelzOKO @dennisMungai @fredmanglis @dammim @flintsoul @mwanikigreen @ramanusAsango | Feb 20 14:21 | |
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DaemonFC | fewt: I think at some point things settle down and the enterprise distros get worried that their customers may decide they don't need them anymore | Feb 20 14:22 |
DaemonFC | like "Why are we paying thousands of dollars for support when this software is just working so well that we never hit problems?" | Feb 20 14:22 |
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DaemonFC | certainly you always need support contracts when the software is so lulzy and so prone to fail | Feb 20 14:23 |
DaemonFC | which is how Microsoft keeps businesses on their treadmill | Feb 20 14:23 |
DaemonFC | it's worse with them, but I see some of it going on with open source stuff as well | Feb 20 14:24 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] muchos impressed with #MoonMoon but #Newsbeuter doesn't like the feed it creates :( http://moonmoon.org/ may have to apply #Feedburner | Feb 20 14:24 | |
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fewt | Diablo-D3: Yes, I was speaking to usability, not function. | Feb 20 14:26 |
Diablo-D3 | to a linux user, thats the same thing | Feb 20 14:27 |
Diablo-D3 | go buy a mac. | Feb 20 14:27 |
fewt | To a non-linux user though, it matters. | Feb 20 14:27 |
fewt | :D | Feb 20 14:27 |
fewt | DaemonFC: Enterprise Linux vendors are expensive. Oracle is undercutting RedHat like crazy with their lower prices and "good enough" support. | Feb 20 14:28 |
MinceR | who says it's good enough? :> | Feb 20 14:28 |
Diablo-D3 | lol | Feb 20 14:28 |
Diablo-D3 | enterprise linux | Feb 20 14:28 |
DaemonFC | Oracle probably | Feb 20 14:28 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 20 14:28 |
Diablo-D3 | debian was the original enterprise linux and still the best | Feb 20 14:28 |
MinceR | :> | Feb 20 14:28 |
Diablo-D3 | I'd like to see someone run redhat for 10 years straight, never have to reinstall, and have completely up to date software installed. | Feb 20 14:29 |
fewt | MinceR: It's good enough IMHO. | Feb 20 14:29 |
DaemonFC | just like how Microsoft will support your SUSE | Feb 20 14:29 |
MinceR | ic | Feb 20 14:29 |
fewt | Diablo-D3: I'll agree with that. | Feb 20 14:29 |
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fewt | Diablo-D3: but I have systems pushing 6-7 years without being reinstalled, all up to date. | Feb 20 14:30 |
fewt | The hardware tends to fall over before 10 :D | Feb 20 14:30 |
Diablo-D3 | thats what rsync is for. | Feb 20 14:30 |
fewt | drbd | Feb 20 14:30 |
fewt | Why rsync when it's already there : | Feb 20 14:31 |
fewt | s/:// | Feb 20 14:31 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @nwalrave dankje :) | Feb 20 14:34 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How Evrythng could give any physical object a life online - http://tnw.co/y83s28 the #internetofthings slouches a little closer | Feb 20 14:38 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Online #Python Tutor http://goo.gl/ORzqQ #flosstools #programming | Feb 20 14:39 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Pirate Bay ISP Block Challenged For Censoring Lawful Content - http://bit.ly/xQR0hs more collateral damage #finland | Feb 20 14:41 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] First #RaspberryPi SD Card Image Released [#Debian Squeeze, LXDE] - http://bit.ly/zpCgys looking good | Feb 20 14:44 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] BKA speicherte per Trojaner Telefonsex-Mitschnitte - http://bit.ly/zBj5z5 whoops, this will cause problems #de | Feb 20 14:48 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Cello suites van Bach in Bar Buro. Ik kan dat pruimen. | Feb 20 14:48 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Tiny device cuts cost of #DNA sequencing - http://bit.ly/zt5ix0 the police will love this #genomics #forensics | Feb 20 14:49 | |
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DaemonFC | I still have a 486 Packard Bell from 1991 that boots | Feb 20 14:50 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 20 14:51 |
DaemonFC | I decided to upgrade it to a 500 MB hard drive at one point | Feb 20 14:51 |
DaemonFC | which was a bottomless pit when you're talking about storing DOS apps on it | Feb 20 14:51 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD @gerlos: Just changed #network #printer @ work. !GNU !linux box: just works. #Windows boxes: required CD and some #reboots. #satisfaction | Feb 20 14:53 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @glynmoody Tiny device cuts cost of #DNA sequencing - http://bit.ly/zt5ix0 the police will love this #genomics #forensics | Feb 20 14:54 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Good article on deploying oVirt - http://ur1.ca/89sgy #fb | Feb 20 14:58 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] in (n. american?) english we playfully call toilets "the throne". gives your dent a funny twist to my ears ;) and: +1 to investing in health | Feb 20 14:59 | |
*DaemonFC is listening to Burn the Obedient by Korn ft. Noisia on The Path of Totality (Special Edition) [Amarok] | Feb 20 15:04 | |
DaemonFC | hehe | Feb 20 15:04 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] dantti is crafting a beautiful print desktop widget (in QML, of course!) for Plasma Workspaces 4.9: http://ur1.ca/89sl9 | Feb 20 15:04 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @meanmicio: GNU Health incorporates the latest WHO list of essential medicines, plus their pregnancy risk category !gnu !fsf #ehealth | Feb 20 15:06 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels now | Feb 20 15:13 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels now | Feb 20 15:13 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] Linux Action Show on Spark @ pre-order: "i have not been so excited about a new hardware release in a long time" :) http://ur1.ca/89s49 | Feb 20 15:18 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] .. and they are right about pre-orders closing soon. | Feb 20 15:18 | |
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DaemonFC | for some reason I have to listen to Korn while I'm cleaning | Feb 20 15:20 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Next OpenSUSE http://ur1.ca/89t12 #suse #opensuse #novell | Feb 20 15:23 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Symantec a Patent Aggressor http://ur1.ca/89t9e #security | Feb 20 15:31 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Pirate Bay could be blocked in the UK, after a judge rules it infringes copyright - http://tnw.co/Agn2KH bootless whackamole continues | Feb 20 15:39 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Data From Black Duck Challenged Again http://ur1.ca/89tp7 #blackduck #gpl #fsf | Feb 20 15:39 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] “Green Week”: Ask MEPs to Reject #ACTA Back in Their Home Districts! - http://bit.ly/Axe9w5 key week: lots of practical suggestions | Feb 20 15:48 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @mcnalu: UK PM David Cameron is shunned and heckled and reporters kept out during his hospital walkabout http://ur1.ca/89to7 | Feb 20 15:48 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Barnes & Noble To Take On Amazon (Again) With A New 8GB Nook Tablet - http://tcrn.ch/AjueF3 competition is good #ebooks | Feb 20 15:48 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] A new tag: #notatag called for? | Feb 20 15:48 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Looking for collaborators in an Open Science project - http://bit.ly/ykxENU opening up #openscience | Feb 20 15:49 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Help fund the CHOMP #Kickstarter Project for a cheap, open source #MIDI controller http://kck.st/w7SXhI | Feb 20 15:51 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New Documents Reveal How Microsoft Removed GNU/Linux From Computers in Indian Schools http://goo.gl/Woycl #india | Feb 20 15:53 | |
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qu1j0t3 | hm | Feb 20 15:53 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Harman: Coalition is ‘dragging its feet’ on #deact - http://bit.ly/y2ujLV labour's policy as evidence-free as ever (v @Coadec) | Feb 20 15:54 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @schestowitz New Documents Reveal How Microsoft Removed GNU/Linux From Computers in Indian Schools http://goo.gl/Woycl #india | Feb 20 15:58 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @glynmoody Barnes & Noble To Take On Amazon (Again) With A New 8GB Nook Tablet - http://tcrn.ch/AjueF3 competition is good #ebooks | Feb 20 15:58 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @glynmoody Tiny device cuts cost of #DNA sequencing - http://bit.ly/zt5ix0 the police will love this #genomics #forensics | Feb 20 15:59 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Browsing a website using chrome, getting a pop-up ad to download Chrome is kinda stupid, methinks. | Feb 20 15:59 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] pic of the week: The Thames - http://bit.ly/wdzyNi classic stuff #london (v @londonist) | Feb 20 16:01 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] τι γινεται ρε γμτ εχει σταματήσει ο χρόνος δευτεριάτικα? ακομα 4 είναι; :( | Feb 20 16:03 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @ramonsuarez: Showcase your Belgian company in the Mobile Monday Brussels app at the Mobile World Co http://ur1. ... | Feb 20 16:03 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @Vacaturedotcom: Yeri Tiete, @tuinslak, ex-Google en bedenker van iRail http://t.co/VMRcQ6hK #tijdomoptestaan | Feb 20 16:03 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] From open source to sourcing openly - http://bit.ly/wsYDd7 what lies beyond free software? #business #manufacturing #openinnovation | Feb 20 16:03 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open Season on Open Standards - http://bit.ly/wPSFeO UK consultation on #openstandards: #RF, #FRAND & something else | Feb 20 16:08 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @glynmoody: @ccess is launched! - http://ur1.ca/89v07 here: http://ur1.ca/89v09 "to make scholarly i http://ur1. ... | Feb 20 16:16 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: Have a nice lady sitting next to me on the page for each season? Easy to parallelise map creation, modular schematics ftw | Feb 20 16:23 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Patent Parasites and the Bubble of Software Patents http://ur1.ca/89v5q #swpats | Feb 20 16:23 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Also, I think that I fixed a problem with forwarding replies to Facebook. Let's see. | Feb 20 16:26 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Just taking a look at Gravatar profiles, like http://identi.ca/url/66906110. Nice stuff! | Feb 20 16:26 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] USTR Claims #TPP Has 'Unprecedented' #Transparency, But Won't Reveal Details Unless You're A Big Industry Lobbyist - http://bit.ly/wq6aRE | Feb 20 16:31 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] clever and well executed! worth the read. ♻ @glynmoody: Eternal #Copyright: a modest proposal - http://tgr.ph/AEwO3W | Feb 20 16:33 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ice Cream Sandwich the best Android ever http://ur1.ca/89vcn | Feb 20 16:34 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] on my blog, starting with the jan 28th post. http://ur1.ca/7x2eg .. the Make*Play*Live site will eventually have all info as well. | Feb 20 16:38 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Happy Birthday, #SimplyMEPIS http://ur1.ca/89veq #mepis #debian | Feb 20 16:38 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] LZ4 For Btrfs Arrives While Its FSCK Remains M.I.A. http://ur1.ca/89vfh #btrfs | Feb 20 16:39 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New EU-level spat over open standards http://ur1.ca/89vgi | Feb 20 16:39 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] PC Linux OS 2012.02: nice and stable http://ur1.ca/89vhr #gnu #linux | Feb 20 16:43 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is #Vista8 a Linux Copycat? http://ur1.ca/89vjr #gnu #linux | Feb 20 16:44 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Unity 5.4 Review http://ur1.ca/89vnd #unity #ubuntu | Feb 20 16:48 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LinuxMint developer releases #Cinnamon 1.3 http://ur1.ca/89vrb | Feb 20 16:54 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Great idea! rd @1111aether #cbc should play #1984 screen in screen during a game (duty to serve the public and all that) !CDNpoli | Feb 20 17:08 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Só se deveria poder votar (todas as eleições e referendos) depois de se passar num teste sobre o que se passa no mundo e no país! | Feb 20 17:08 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz Is #Vista8 a Linux Copycat? http://ur1.ca/89vjr #gnu #linux | Feb 20 17:08 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] παιδια @O_kanalarhis στον αέρα, συντονιστείτε @radiobubble | Feb 20 17:08 | |
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digitteqnohippie | they've been doing itfor years. 8 is not different in this regard. | Feb 20 17:13 |
schestowitz | doing what? | Feb 20 17:15 |
schestowitz | copycat? | Feb 20 17:16 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 20/2/2012: Linux 3.3 RC4, VLC 2.0 http://ur1.ca/89w3t #techrights | Feb 20 17:18 | |
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digitteqnohippie | copycat, yes. but also claiming it as innovation. ... and further, also stomping their weight around with armies of lawyers. ,... and the lock-in "features". etc etc | Feb 20 17:20 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] χωρις το @radiobubble δεν εχει νοημα υπαρξης το #rbandroid.Γι'αυτο #an_to_thes ξηλώσου http://bit.ly/ztrVkJ | Feb 20 17:21 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Debian -- News -- #Debian Position on Software #Patents http://goo.gl/oDAGc #floss #gnulinux | Feb 20 17:21 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz #justsaynototaggingpeopleonline | Feb 20 17:21 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] VÍDEO: Marques Mendes...Social-democrata critica ainda regalias das empresas dos transportes - TVI24 http://goo.gl/Ccmfh #pt #poucavergonha | Feb 20 17:24 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @russellmcormond Last week I wrote bureaucrats in Competition Bureau, asking if they would be intervening on !C11 http://www.ur1.ca/881ou | Feb 20 17:24 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !listening to @allison_crowe "Skeletons and Spirits" under earbuds so my kid (home from uni) can sleep in as long as he wants #FamilyDay | Feb 20 17:28 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @joshwoodward 100% beats 5% any day. :) #indieProd !CC #music #art #sharing !selfPub | Feb 20 17:31 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] despite all the activity with e.g. Plasma Active, we still <3 Plasma Desktop. folderview fixes from isemenov: http://ur1.ca/89w8v | Feb 20 17:31 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I really liked it! | Feb 20 17:33 | |
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fewt1 | digitteqnohippie: Are we talking about Microsoft, Apple, or Canonical? I am confuse. | Feb 20 17:35 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] well this sucks: a box of Spark dev units was intercepted at the front of the building and taken by someone from the DHL guy. :/ | Feb 20 17:38 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] they are investigating .. but i have a bad feeling about this. | Feb 20 17:38 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Yeah, I'd be willing to bet money that it won't. | Feb 20 17:39 | |
XFaCE | fewt1: hello confuse | Feb 20 17:41 |
fewt1 | :) | Feb 20 17:42 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @ramonsuarez You don't know #sospiet? | Feb 20 17:43 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @mrflo @ramonsuarez The only thing left for you is the speak West-Flemish and you could become a real SOS Piet | Feb 20 17:43 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] The Pirate Bay could be blocked in UK http://www.ur1.ca/89rom via @sandersch http://www.ur1.ca/89wfv !copyright | Feb 20 17:46 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @m4nima1 Iran Blocks More Websites Ahead Of Elections http://www.ur1.ca/89wl9 #censorship | Feb 20 17:48 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] União Europeia pronta para aprovar novo resgate à Grécia - Expresso.pt http://goo.gl/ex1kU #march23 #greece | Feb 20 17:48 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @samdermaut @Joke @FredoFredonis congrats ;) | Feb 20 17:56 | |
DaemonFC | has anyone figured out how to get kio_magnet to work right? | Feb 20 17:57 |
DaemonFC | this is about the god awfulest thing I've ever seen | Feb 20 17:57 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @aseigo: well this sucks: a box of Spark dev units was intercepted at the front of the building and taken by someone from the DHL guy. :/ | Feb 20 17:58 | |
DaemonFC | it's easier to copy the magnet link and paste it into your torrent client than try to figure this fucking thing out | Feb 20 17:58 |
DaemonFC | if ktorrent is not already running, stand there and do nothing, spin the notifications icon around and add 1 to the notifications count | Feb 20 17:59 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] how many users would #Twitter lose if the #teamfollowback folks all had their accounts blitzed? more capacity for regular folks | Feb 20 17:59 | |
DaemonFC | if ktorrent is running, spin the notifications icon around, add one to the count, and have ktorrent add the link to the downloads after not asking the user what to do with it | Feb 20 18:00 |
DaemonFC | keep spinning the notifications and if the user clicks on it, tell them there's a never ending job running | Feb 20 18:00 |
DaemonFC | when ktorrent finishes, surprise the user | Feb 20 18:01 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] common sense means you follow folks because you want to read their stuff, not for the sole reason of being followed back building numbers | Feb 20 18:01 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Tor Browser Bundles for Linux have been updated to include Firefox 10.0.2: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/new-tor-browser-bundles-linux | Feb 20 18:01 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] sadly it seems there's a fair number of folks so sad they aspire to be social network pity fucks #teamfollowback | Feb 20 18:01 | |
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DaemonFC | instead of Downloads, throw it in ~/.kde/share/apps/kio_magnet, because most users will find what they downloaded under several layers of hidden folders | Feb 20 18:01 |
DaemonFC | if the user tries to be clever and edits magnet.protocol to point directly to KTorrent or their client of choice, spin the icon around, add a never ending job, fail to launch anything, and pop up a notification that the service to handle magnet links has died | Feb 20 18:02 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] A cure for the common troll by @ajbiller | http://red.ht/yh3ujW #swpatents #NPEs | Feb 20 18:03 | |
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schestowitz | hey DaemonFC | Feb 20 18:03 |
schestowitz | how goes it? | Feb 20 18:03 |
DaemonFC | all KDE apps use it, Firefox has different settings so you can fix it there but it only fixes Firefox | Feb 20 18:03 |
schestowitz | Firefox is a relic for me | Feb 20 18:03 |
DaemonFC | Chrome is stupid and launches whatever xdg-open wants to use | Feb 20 18:03 |
DaemonFC | I *HATE* kio_magnet | Feb 20 18:04 |
schestowitz | firefox is a toolbox, a carrier of plugins | Feb 20 18:04 |
DaemonFC | HATE HATE HATE HATE HAAAAAAAAATE it | Feb 20 18:04 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: what does it do? | Feb 20 18:04 |
DaemonFC | fucks up every magnet URN you click on | Feb 20 18:04 |
schestowitz | BTW, kio is odd here | Feb 20 18:04 |
DaemonFC | it's a torture device | Feb 20 18:04 |
schestowitz | the other day I opened two files over scp with kate | Feb 20 18:04 |
schestowitz | made changes, savd, it didn't mofdify on the server | Feb 20 18:04 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @forteller Do you like a bit creepy short films? Kitty Kitty has won many prizes, and it's free http://ur1.ca/89wop !CreativeCommons ... | Feb 20 18:04 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] << back to work ;) | Feb 20 18:04 | |
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schestowitz | I thought it was dolphin's fault, tried konq too | Feb 20 18:05 |
DaemonFC | It's almost like some KDE developer out there wanted to know how they could possibly make the experience of using magnet links worse | Feb 20 18:05 |
DaemonFC | and then was like "Oh, kio magnet!!!" | Feb 20 18:05 |
XFaCE | lol | Feb 20 18:05 |
XFaCE | Hooray for XFCE! | Feb 20 18:05 |
schestowitz | then it seemed to have had something to do with how I opened them, through the longer route with menu for apps lacking associations, to group-open files with different extensions in this case | Feb 20 18:05 |
DaemonFC | well, I'm pissed | Feb 20 18:06 |
DaemonFC | I've been trying to bypass it somehow for the last hour | Feb 20 18:06 |
schestowitz | kio is awesome, but in this case it didn't even warn me that it saved all changed to a transient local file | Feb 20 18:06 |
XFaCE | KDE loses this round | Feb 20 18:06 |
DaemonFC | I gave up even trying to make it work and copied the link | Feb 20 18:06 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Top 5 !Ubuntu pre-installed Laptop companies | Unixmen http://goo.gl/KdhsK | Feb 20 18:06 | |
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XFaCE | Now I just need the Trash function to work properly :P | Feb 20 18:06 |
DaemonFC | the only way to get rid of kio_magnet is to remove ktorrent | Feb 20 18:07 |
schestowitz | ask ryan | Feb 20 18:07 |
schestowitz | he'sTrash | Feb 20 18:07 |
DaemonFC | and that deletes magnet.protocol | Feb 20 18:07 |
schestowitz | Trash plugin | Feb 20 18:07 |
XFaCE | schestowitz: that's not nice | Feb 20 18:07 |
DaemonFC | then clicking on a magnet does nothing at all | Feb 20 18:07 |
schestowitz | :-) | Feb 20 18:07 |
schestowitz | he knows my honour.. | Feb 20 18:07 |
schestowitz | although someone told me to stop it last friday, some people don't like this tease humour much | Feb 20 18:08 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] No way! ♻ @angelaperry Ooh, look. You can buy 5-star reviews. http://www.ur1.ca/89wwh #headdesk #uncool #fraud !bad | Feb 20 18:08 | |
schestowitz | XFaCE: I'm trash too, we all are :-) | Feb 20 18:08 |
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schestowitz | some people are unable to make fun of themselves, though | Feb 20 18:08 |
schestowitz | esp. in front of other friends | Feb 20 18:08 |
schestowitz | "It's well 'ard guv'nor!" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1319509 | Feb 20 18:08 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Feb 20 18:08 |
XFaCE | schestowitz: "You are plagerist! More plagerism that I've ever seen. Plagerism apologist! JAAA!" | Feb 20 18:09 |
schestowitz | meh | Feb 20 18:09 |
XFaCE | (ex. of one who cannot laugh at himself) | Feb 20 18:09 |
DaemonFC | why do people bother doing things if they're going to leave it broken and walk off? | Feb 20 18:10 |
DaemonFC | then it's worse than if they had never done anything | Feb 20 18:10 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Raspberry Pi with a week to go - 2/20/2012 - Electronics Weekly http://goo.gl/DXWGs | Feb 20 18:14 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @torproject Tor Browser Bundles for Linux have been updated to include Firefox 10.0.2: http://ur1.ca/89wzf ... | Feb 20 18:14 | |
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XFaCE | yaaa! | Feb 20 18:16 |
XFaCE | Raspberry Pi! | Feb 20 18:16 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Is Windows 8 a !Linux Copycat? http://goo.gl/ovWrv | Feb 20 18:16 | |
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XFaCE | Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo... | Feb 20 18:17 |
XFaCE | (yes) | Feb 20 18:17 |
schestowitz | I. Love. This. Company. | Feb 20 18:18 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I will sell the email details of everyone who joined #fiverr for $5 rofl | Feb 20 18:18 | |
XFaCE | \:"M$ does what it always has done, and that is borrow other people's ideas for software," he asserted. "There's nothing wrong with that -- it is normal in the world of software because there's nothing new under the sun once you have some hardware and an instruction set." -pogson | Feb 20 18:19 |
XFaCE | This is a key point | Feb 20 18:19 |
qu1j0t3 | LOL | Feb 20 18:19 |
XFaCE | It isn't the borrowing, its the building of illegitimate monopolies on these shared ideas | Feb 20 18:19 |
fewt | god | Feb 20 18:19 |
fewt | M$? | Feb 20 18:19 |
qu1j0t3 | it's not normal in the world of software when you're making a proprietary scam out of it, yes XFaCE | Feb 20 18:19 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Original: How to Kickstart an Open Source Music Revolution with CASH Music http://t.co/94zeK065 #linux | Feb 20 18:19 | |
XFaCE | "M$ calls it innovating and applies for software patents on other people's ideas and sues people over them," Pogson said. | Feb 20 18:19 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Feb 20 18:20 |
qu1j0t3 | he wants it both ways | Feb 20 18:20 |
fewt | oh Katherine Noyes | Feb 20 18:20 |
fewt | and Pogson | Feb 20 18:20 |
fewt | When will we get grown up reporters? | Feb 20 18:20 |
fewt | teehee | Feb 20 18:20 |
qu1j0t3 | fewt: i am reminded of Douglas Adams. "First against the wall when..." | Feb 20 18:21 |
XFaCE | qu1j0t3: No, he's just pointing out that Microsoft's using other ideas practice is common in software dev | Feb 20 18:21 |
qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: but it's not. | Feb 20 18:21 |
XFaCE | That's not the problem; the problem is the "proprietary 'open' standards" | Feb 20 18:21 |
qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: it's a lie | Feb 20 18:21 |
XFaCE | And the lockdown | Feb 20 18:21 |
fewt | it is common practice. Apple does it, Microsoft does it, Canonical does it.. | Feb 20 18:21 |
fewt | KDE and GNOME looked like Windows | Feb 20 18:22 |
XFaCE | and the stupid software patents which are granted at a whim, when they should be granted period | Feb 20 18:22 |
qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: it's common practice WITHIN an open source, copyright based framework. when it's done to lock into proprietary crap, that's theft | Feb 20 18:22 |
fewt | Unity looks like OSX | Feb 20 18:22 |
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qu1j0t3 | fewt: it's "common practice" but it's theft. | Feb 20 18:22 |
fewt | It isn't theft | Feb 20 18:22 |
qu1j0t3 | fewt: the same thing they sue anyone else for | Feb 20 18:22 |
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fewt | Apple vs Microsoft proved it isn't theft | Feb 20 18:22 |
qu1j0t3 | fewt: it's not theft only when done legally under license | Feb 20 18:22 |
DaemonFC | yeah, but KDE and GNOME don't sue people for looking like they do | Feb 20 18:22 |
XFaCE | qu1j0t3: I wouldn't call it theft because that promotes the same thinking that sharing copyrighted stuff is "theft" | Feb 20 18:22 |
qu1j0t3 | fewt: i mean code | Feb 20 18:23 |
DaemonFC | Apple and Microsoft rip them off and then sue people for looking like Windows and OS X | Feb 20 18:23 |
qu1j0t3 | fewt: clearly i don't view ideas as stealable | Feb 20 18:23 |
XFaCE | qu1j0t3: Likewise | Feb 20 18:23 |
fewt | qu1j0t3: What code are you referring to? | Feb 20 18:23 |
DaemonFC | Apple sued Microsoft in the 90s for Windows looking like Mac OS | Feb 20 18:23 |
fewt | DaemonFC: and lost :) | Feb 20 18:23 |
DaemonFC | the court sided with Microsoft, saying that look and feel is not copyrightable | Feb 20 18:23 |
fewt | + | Feb 20 18:23 |
DaemonFC | now the About Windows dialog claims that the Windows GUI is copyrighted? | Feb 20 18:24 |
qu1j0t3 | fewt: hm, well, the quote does say IDEAS so i guess i'm arguing the wron gpoint. never mind :) | Feb 20 18:24 |
qu1j0t3 | DaemonFC: what do you expect? | Feb 20 18:24 |
XFaCE | DaemonFC: Yep, now that judgement gets washed under | Feb 20 18:24 |
qu1j0t3 | DaemonFC: money talks | Feb 20 18:24 |
qu1j0t3 | bleh | Feb 20 18:24 |
*qu1j0t3 hates the industry | Feb 20 18:24 | |
schestowitz | [18:20] <fewt> When will we get grown up reporters? | Feb 20 18:24 |
XFaCE | To me, software patents are just as ridiculous as music patents would be | Feb 20 18:25 |
schestowitz | Non-canadians? | Feb 20 18:25 |
qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: inb4 sampling :) | Feb 20 18:25 |
XFaCE | fewt's a canadian? | Feb 20 18:25 |
DaemonFC | Microsoft themselves spent lots of money in court arguing that it wasn't | Feb 20 18:25 |
XFaCE | qu1j0t3: U kidding me, rite? | Feb 20 18:25 |
DaemonFC | now they're arguing theirs is | Feb 20 18:25 |
DaemonFC | this is ridiculous | Feb 20 18:25 |
qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: i dunno. didn't drake just get done for sampling? | Feb 20 18:25 |
DaemonFC | someone needs to tell them they can't have it both ways | Feb 20 18:25 |
*qu1j0t3 isn't really coherent today | Feb 20 18:25 | |
XFaCE | qu1j0t3: I mean like parts of a song being patented | Feb 20 18:25 |
schestowitz | pogson and noyes (and hudson whom she cited) are canadian | Feb 20 18:25 |
qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: oh, PATENTED, ewwwwww | Feb 20 18:25 |
XFaCE | schestowitz: hmm, didn't know that | Feb 20 18:25 |
XFaCE | qu1j0t3: Exactly | Feb 20 18:26 |
qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: i guess re patents i;'m now of the zero-tolerance persuasion. | Feb 20 18:26 |
XFaCE | That's how I view software patents | Feb 20 18:26 |
qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: it's like cannibalism. let one guy do it, pretty soon they're raiding hospitals to source chicken mcnuggets. | Feb 20 18:26 |
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fewt | I don't care where they come from, I want to respect Pogson, I agree with some things he says. It's the application of his ideas that turn me off. "M$" is an immediate turn off. | Feb 20 18:27 |
qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: better just to have none of it. | Feb 20 18:27 |
XFaCE | fewt: And suppose real journalists are the ones on Fox, etc? | Feb 20 18:27 |
DaemonFC | either GUIs are copyrightable or they aren't | Feb 20 18:27 |
fewt | uh, what? | Feb 20 18:27 |
DaemonFC | if they are, then Microsoft should be sued | Feb 20 18:27 |
DaemonFC | and so should everyone | Feb 20 18:27 |
fewt | Faux news? | Feb 20 18:27 |
fewt | who? | Feb 20 18:27 |
DaemonFC | if they're not, they should stop claiming theirs is | Feb 20 18:27 |
XFaCE | fewt: oh good, that was a test, and you passed | Feb 20 18:28 |
fewt | Kathryn Noise articles are commonly inaccurate to the point of being worthless. | Feb 20 18:28 |
XFaCE | qu1j0t3: http://www.jenandtonic.ca/images/mcnugget.jpg | Feb 20 18:28 |
fewt | Faux news is the new comedy central. :) | Feb 20 18:28 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Feb 20 18:28 |
qu1j0t3 | if only it were a comedy :< | Feb 20 18:28 |
XFaCE | fewt: Really? I don't find it funny. | Feb 20 18:28 |
fewt | I wasn't serious | Feb 20 18:29 |
XFaCE | fewt: I find it more akin to getting severe indigestion | Feb 20 18:29 |
fewt | It usually makes me angry | Feb 20 18:29 |
qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: that's awesome. Why are people even surprised? | Feb 20 18:29 |
qu1j0t3 | fewt: yes | Feb 20 18:29 |
XFaCE | qu1j0t3: It's a patented process | Feb 20 18:29 |
XFaCE | fewt: I was more established what you consider "real" journalists | Feb 20 18:29 |
qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: "nobody knows how it got there" | Feb 20 18:29 |
fewt | :) | Feb 20 18:30 |
XFaCE | Pogson is more of an opinion guy anyway | Feb 20 18:30 |
XFaCE | He comments on stories | Feb 20 18:30 |
qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: let me give them a hint. "We chop up random bits of chickens. Why the heck WOULDN'T this happen" | Feb 20 18:30 |
fewt | I don't dislike pogson, though I don't always agree with him. | Feb 20 18:30 |
XFaCE | fewt: Which should be the case for everybody | Feb 20 18:30 |
fewt | He's quoted me a few times I think which I find interesting. | Feb 20 18:30 |
fewt | I just think we need less "M$", it's a turn off | Feb 20 18:30 |
fewt | seems immature | Feb 20 18:30 |
XFaCE | I don't see why people think they must agree with a source 100% of the time | Feb 20 18:31 |
XFaCE | fewt: Meh | Feb 20 18:31 |
XFaCE | fewt: I think Florian's behaviour is more mature (and harmful) | Feb 20 18:31 |
XFaCE | by comparison | Feb 20 18:31 |
fewt | I don't follow Florian | Feb 20 18:31 |
XFaCE | fewt: For good reason | Feb 20 18:31 |
XFaCE | If I wanted baseless crap, I just mash the keyboard | Feb 20 18:32 |
XFaCE | :) | Feb 20 18:32 |
fewt | Susan Linton, lots of respect there. | Feb 20 18:32 |
XFaCE | fewt: You've been quoted? Who are you exactly? | Feb 20 18:32 |
JeremiahY | lol | Feb 20 18:32 |
XFaCE | qu1j0t3: And what are you doing in the main channel? | Feb 20 18:32 |
XFaCE | And where is here? | Feb 20 18:32 |
XFaCE | And who I am? | Feb 20 18:32 |
XFaCE | Why? | Feb 20 18:32 |
JeremiahY | what is life? | Feb 20 18:33 |
qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: right, right. this is how i feel today. | Feb 20 18:33 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Escola do Mato - Segurança com Lâminas - YouTube http://goo.gl/6JmQV #pt #bushcraft | Feb 20 18:33 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] The @duolit !selfPub writing contest http://www.ur1.ca/89x6k is a good idea; but single vote system would confer more credibility than 1aday | Feb 20 18:33 | |
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qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: i am here to watch the bot for a bit | Feb 20 18:33 |
fewt | He quoted my phoronix critique a few months back. | Feb 20 18:33 |
schestowitz | [18:28] <fewt> Kathryn Noise articles are commonly inaccurate to the point of being worthless. | Feb 20 18:33 |
schestowitz | but she cites "hairyfeet" | Feb 20 18:34 |
schestowitz | a known /, trol | Feb 20 18:34 |
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schestowitz | XFaCE: it's just chicken, what's the matter? | Feb 20 18:34 |
XFaCE | lol | Feb 20 18:34 |
fewt | XFaCE: I'm just a nobody like everyone else. :) | Feb 20 18:34 |
schestowitz | I was once served chicken FEET at a Chinese restaurant, couldn't eat the thing | Feb 20 18:34 |
JeremiahY | chicken feet are good | Feb 20 18:35 |
JeremiahY | if they are cooked right | Feb 20 18:35 |
fewt | We have chicken feet at a chinese restaurant here in my area, I have't tried it though. | Feb 20 18:35 |
schestowitz | qu1j0t3: the bot here does not yet run the latest version, 0.54 | Feb 20 18:36 |
schestowitz | TRIdentica uses twitfolk | Feb 20 18:36 |
schestowitz | perl | Feb 20 18:36 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: yeah, it's amusing. "nobody knows how it got there". What part of CHICKEN PARTS GO IN, BATTERED CHICKEN PARTS COME OUT is so fu**ing hard to understand. /me blames Fox | Feb 20 18:36 |
schestowitz | ma'am, if it ain't killing you it'll make yo stronger | Feb 20 18:36 |
schestowitz | now, have your head | Feb 20 18:37 |
schestowitz | and get off my grill | Feb 20 18:37 |
XFaCE | FOX: Is a war in Iran possibly innevitable? Our expert says most hypothetically very yes. | Feb 20 18:37 |
schestowitz | FOX: rich people inciting people against poor people | Feb 20 18:38 |
fewt | They seem to incite poor people against the middle class. | Feb 20 18:38 |
fewt | it's interesting to watch | Feb 20 18:38 |
fewt | sad | Feb 20 18:38 |
fewt | angering | Feb 20 18:38 |
schestowitz | saddistic | Feb 20 18:38 |
XFaCE | FOX News: SCREAMING AND INTERRUPTING AND BEING OBNOXIOUS MAKES YOU MORE RIGHT. | Feb 20 18:38 |
schestowitz | and engaging | Feb 20 18:39 |
schestowitz | FOX: Ruch Lite | Feb 20 18:39 |
schestowitz | *Rush | Feb 20 18:39 |
qu1j0t3 | "The mother pressed charges and demandded $100,000 compensation." FOR SEEING A CHICKEN HEAD IN A CHICKEN FOOD PRODUCT. | Feb 20 18:39 |
qu1j0t3 | chr1$t. | Feb 20 18:39 |
XFaCE | qu1j0t3: Should have sued the MAFIAA instead | Feb 20 18:40 |
fewt | oh shi- who put it on fox news in here? | Feb 20 18:40 |
fewt | : | Feb 20 18:40 |
fewt | :) | Feb 20 18:40 |
schestowitz | FOX: I can't believe it's not Goebbels{tm} | Feb 20 18:40 |
XFaCE | qu1j0t3: She has just about the same amount of evidence against them as they do against the people they sue | Feb 20 18:40 |
qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: should have driven to McD's executive suite and shoved it up the a** of the CEO. | Feb 20 18:40 |
qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: end of story. | Feb 20 18:40 |
XFaCE | qu1j0t3: Along with some pink goo? | Feb 20 18:40 |
qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: yeah, hogtie him and leave him in a bath of it until it flays his skin. :D | Feb 20 18:41 |
*qu1j0t3 is full of good ideas | Feb 20 18:41 | |
qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: are you in on Toews-gate? | Feb 20 18:41 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Lansley mobbed by angry #NHS campaigners http://goo.gl/gg0JD | Feb 20 18:41 | |
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XFaCE | qu1j0t3: Haven't followed the feed closely, but have been following the news about | Feb 20 18:41 |
XFaCE | And the Conservatives crying "NDP!" | Feb 20 18:42 |
qu1j0t3 | hypocritical jerks | Feb 20 18:42 |
XFaCE | ^not news | Feb 20 18:43 |
qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: i know :< | Feb 20 18:44 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Monday's security updates http://ur1.ca/89xo3 | Feb 20 19:04 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] methinks the #Tories are hell bent on rushing through ideological policies only their donors like under the excuse of "the economy" | Feb 20 19:04 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Monday's security updates [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 8.6 KB | Feb 20 19:04 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if they don't force them through while there's an excuse, they risk being punted out of office and losing their chance to screw us over | Feb 20 19:06 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] "Downloads from New Hope Sangha" http://ur1.ca/89xu4 | Feb 20 19:18 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Richard Stallman | XIX Semana Informática do IST http://goo.gl/c5H7E #pt #floss | Feb 20 19:24 | |
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DaemonFC | http://www.debian.org/reports/patent-faq | Feb 20 19:25 |
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DaemonFC | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Oracle-withdraws-patent-claim-and-demands-less-compensation-1437328.html | Feb 20 19:29 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Oracle withdraws patent claim and demands less compensation - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 41.04 KB | Feb 20 19:29 |
DaemonFC | SCOracle's case continues falling apart | Feb 20 19:29 |
DaemonFC | another piece jsut fell off | Feb 20 19:29 |
DaemonFC | they're now seeking less than 5% of the damages against Google that they were trying to get initially | Feb 20 19:32 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] How the New York Times betrays its sources, part 387 http://t.co/qa6h779x | Feb 20 19:33 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Feb 20 19:33 |
DaemonFC | it seems like they're trying to get out of this with a technical victory to save face | Feb 20 19:33 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] If You're Going To Compare The Old Music Biz Model With The New Music Biz Model, At Least Make Some Sense http://goo.gl/2Yddt | Feb 20 19:34 | |
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DaemonFC | http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Mozilla-takes-action-against-CAs-issuing-man-in-the-middle-certificates-1437332.html | Feb 20 19:37 |
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DaemonFC | http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Apple-previews-OS-X-10-8-with-Gatekeeper-Update-1436172.html | Feb 20 19:37 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Apple previews OS X 10.8 with Gatekeeper - Update - The H Security: News and Features .::. Size~: 41.61 KB | Feb 20 19:37 |
DaemonFC | Apple allows users to voluntarily submit to their walled garden | Feb 20 19:38 |
DaemonFC | eventually it will be mandatory | Feb 20 19:38 |
DaemonFC | just like with Windows | Feb 20 19:38 |
Formic_ | the sky is falling | Feb 20 19:38 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #RIAA Insists That, Really, The Music Industry Is Collapsing; Reality Shows It's Just The RIAA That's Collapsing http://goo.gl/qCHc8 | Feb 20 19:39 | |
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DaemonFC | being told what you can run on your own computer is a bad thing | Feb 20 19:40 |
sebsebseb | Hi _Goblin | Feb 20 19:40 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Firefox To Get A New Default Theme Across All Platforms, Other Enhancements http://identi.ca/url/66914560 | Feb 20 19:41 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] this dude's name is almost #Freeloader; how apt for a parasite like the #RIAA http://goo.gl/rpCj3 | Feb 20 19:41 | |
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DaemonFC | Firefox needs a new theme | Feb 20 19:43 |
_Goblin | sebsebseb: hello! | Feb 20 19:43 |
DaemonFC | but it's not the most urgent thing it needs | Feb 20 19:43 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] iTWire - #GPL use in #Debian on the rise: study http://goo.gl/FUAGS vi@http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2012/04/#GPL | Feb 20 19:43 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Feb 20 19:43 |
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DaemonFC | WebGL that doesn't crash would be more useful | Feb 20 19:43 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Make Your Presentations Accessible to All updated - share the news http://ow.ly/1hw9SO | Feb 20 19:44 | |
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schestowitz | DaemonFC: download one | Feb 20 19:45 |
schestowitz | or get its derivs, if any still exist | Feb 20 19:45 |
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Formic_ | daemonfc - its not any different than being told your distro is non-free because zsnes is in the repo | Feb 20 19:47 |
schestowitz | snes is non-free? | Feb 20 19:49 |
schestowitz | what's zsnes? | Feb 20 19:49 |
_Goblin | a snes emulator | Feb 20 19:50 |
_Goblin | is zsnes oss? | Feb 20 19:51 |
Formic_ | yes | Feb 20 19:51 |
Formic_ | its open source | Feb 20 19:51 |
_Goblin | or maybe the distro is classed as non-free because it includes the facility to run proprietary code via an emulator? | Feb 20 19:51 |
schestowitz | like wine? | Feb 20 19:52 |
schestowitz | wine is free | Feb 20 19:52 |
_Goblin | yeah suppose | Feb 20 19:52 |
_Goblin | talking of which.... | Feb 20 19:52 |
schestowitz | some of the products based on wine are not | Feb 20 19:52 |
_Goblin | I'm playing Dawn of War at the moment | Feb 20 19:52 |
_Goblin | very good... | Feb 20 19:52 |
schestowitz | _Goblin: DaemonFC is playing Dawn too | Feb 20 19:52 |
_Goblin | good stuff! | Feb 20 19:53 |
DaemonFC | BLAAHAAHAHHHHHH | Feb 20 19:53 |
schestowitz | But a different dawn | Feb 20 19:53 |
*DaemonFC throws up a little in his mouth | Feb 20 19:53 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] FLOSSmole | Collaborative collection and analysis of free/libre/open source project data http://goo.gl/5Nf7Z #flosstools #stats | Feb 20 19:53 | |
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schestowitz | FLOSSmole sounds like an alias for Sam Ramji | Feb 20 19:54 |
DaemonFC | yeah, he like totally said, like "ZOMG BILL, ZOMG OPENSOURCE!!!" | Feb 20 19:54 |
DaemonFC | and Bill said "ZOMG, YA I NO RIGHT!?11111"\ | Feb 20 19:54 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Thank you also! :) | Feb 20 19:54 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is satipera from identi.ca with 84 dents! | Feb 20 19:54 | |
Formic_ | you can get an open source assembler for snes too so you could make free roms | Feb 20 19:55 |
schestowitz | and Miguel went like, "I fell in love with it immediately" | Feb 20 19:55 |
fewt | Year of the SNES desktop! | Feb 20 19:55 |
fewt | :) | Feb 20 19:55 |
Formic_ | Input: 21.47727 MHz | Feb 20 19:57 |
Formic_ | Bus: 3.58 MHz, 2.68 MHz, or 1.79 MHz | Feb 20 19:57 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Fine Tuning the Great Transition | Transition Network http://goo.gl/AG9jz #nafeez #collapse | Feb 20 19:58 | |
DaemonFC | Canonical provides critical updates for gnome-session until February 2017. | Feb 20 19:58 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Fine Tuning the Great Transition | Transition Network .::. Size~: 43.42 KB | Feb 20 19:58 |
DaemonFC | interesting | Feb 20 19:58 |
Formic_ | Redhat will for a while too | Feb 20 19:58 |
Formic_ | RHEL 6 will be supported for years | Feb 20 19:59 |
DaemonFC | Canonical does not provide updates for gnome-shell. Some updates may be provided by the Ubuntu community. | Feb 20 19:59 |
DaemonFC | ahh, just the metapackage is supported, not the shell itself | Feb 20 19:59 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] If US !copyright is Life + 70 only 42 more years before American photographer Ansel Adams (1902-1984) work will be in the !publicdomain | Feb 20 20:01 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @x11r5 @thistleweb The next one is not me | Feb 20 20:01 | |
DaemonFC | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/02/aim-say-no-to-desktop-linux-client-for-now/ | Feb 20 20:04 |
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DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Feb 20 20:04 |
DaemonFC | Unless AIM is co-incidentally what they're calling XMPP now (which wouldn't be a good idea since the other AIM is owned by a litigious relic), I predict a 100% change of continuing to not give a crap. | Feb 20 20:04 |
DaemonFC | Seriously? People still care about AOL? Who? | Feb 20 20:04 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Linux News: Community: Is Windows 8 a Linux Copycat? http://goo.gl/nhjFl #gnulinux #msvista8 | Feb 20 20:04 | |
fewt | I still use AIM, but I don't care about AOL, are we supposed too? | Feb 20 20:04 |
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fewt | I'd be more concerned if Compuserv or Prodigy died | Feb 20 20:05 |
fewt | wait | Feb 20 20:05 |
fewt | :D | Feb 20 20:05 |
DaemonFC | I can't figure out who would still be using AIM | Feb 20 20:05 |
fewt | I still use it | Feb 20 20:05 |
fewt | well, I still log in | Feb 20 20:05 |
DaemonFC | the last time I touched that was maybe 10 years ago | Feb 20 20:05 |
fewt | I don't really "use" it. | Feb 20 20:05 |
fewt | I just turned if off and realized I would loose contact with no-one because they are all on google talk too. | Feb 20 20:06 |
DaemonFC | AOL is trying to rebrand itself as an advertising company / content farm | Feb 20 20:06 |
fewt | hmm | Feb 20 20:06 |
DaemonFC | and mostly failing because nobody has ever cared about portal sites | Feb 20 20:06 |
fewt | Ok, AOL can die now, I've turned it off. :) | Feb 20 20:07 |
DaemonFC | they had a number of really expensive cases of stupidity while they were trying to buy up everything | Feb 20 20:07 |
DaemonFC | Netscape was a billion dollar loss that redirects to AOL.com | Feb 20 20:07 |
DaemonFC | Xoom is gone | Feb 20 20:07 |
DaemonFC | they sold ICQ for about a tenth of what they paid for it | Feb 20 20:08 |
DaemonFC | there's Winamp, which is irrelevant now | Feb 20 20:08 |
DaemonFC | it's a badly mismanaged pile of code that has become so unportable they can't even make a 64-bit Windows version of it | Feb 20 20:09 |
fewt | I tried Winamp on my android phone, it sucked | Feb 20 20:09 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stumbles/@stumbles] Victorian nurses and midwives are being undermined by Baillieu Government's removal of nurse/patient ratios. http://respectourwork.com.au/ | Feb 20 20:09 | |
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DaemonFC | "Windows" for ARM won't have Winamp | Feb 20 20:10 |
DaemonFC | Winamp was stupid and careless and encrouaged an ABI | Feb 20 20:10 |
DaemonFC | and now there's so many plugins for it that are proprietary and can't be salvaged even if they could port Winamp itself, that it's effectively x86 32-bit Windows-only until it dies | Feb 20 20:11 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] NYTimes "liberal hawk" Bill Keller needs to drop the snark and do serious journalism | Sami Chopra http://t.co/ht0zJNPI | Feb 20 20:11 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Feb 20 20:11 |
DaemonFC | they made a Linux port at one point then gave up because the only real use for the damned thing were the plugins that couldn't be ported | Feb 20 20:11 |
Formic_ | thats not true | Feb 20 20:14 |
Formic_ | they never made a linux one | Feb 20 20:14 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] [Cracked: Six scary user agreements you've probably signed](http://ur1.ca/89yev... http://ur1.ca/89yew | Feb 20 20:19 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The only explanation for Bill Keller's bizarre attacks on Wikileaks, his former benefactor, is fear. The question is, of what? | Feb 20 20:21 | |
sebsebseb | fewt: around? | Feb 20 20:27 |
fewt | yes | Feb 20 20:28 |
sebsebseb | fewt: good | Feb 20 20:28 |
DaemonFC | Formic_: They made a Linux port | Feb 20 20:28 |
DaemonFC | of Winamp 3 | Feb 20 20:28 |
DaemonFC | http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/Winamp-3-for-Linux/1002748075/1 | Feb 20 20:28 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The Fourth Estate Forfeiting Its Own Press Freedoms: WikiLeaks & The New York Times | NYTX http://t.co/q6uTp69O | Feb 20 20:31 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Feb 20 20:31 |
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Formic_ | winamp3 doesn't exist | Feb 20 20:33 |
*Formic_ plugs his ears | Feb 20 20:33 | |
Formic_ | techrights should open a channel up on subluminal | Feb 20 20:39 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Ahem. So Microsoft also wants to ride the "Google is evil" wave. But they fail:“Google sends a P3P policy that fails... http://b1t.it/aSYW | Feb 20 20:39 | |
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Formic_ | an irc server on the cjdns darknet | Feb 20 20:40 |
Formic_ | all the cool people have cjdns nodes | Feb 20 20:41 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The only explanation for Keller's offense is fear of lack of defense. via @MJMSessions | Feb 20 20:41 | |
schestowitz | Formic_: not sure about that | Feb 20 20:46 |
schestowitz | not very transparent | Feb 20 20:46 |
schestowitz | we don't do things in a secretive way | Feb 20 20:46 |
schestowitz | we defend privacy | Feb 20 20:46 |
Formic_ | how do you defend privacy | Feb 20 20:48 |
Formic_ | we're all out in the open right now | Feb 20 20:48 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] How the New York Times & the Guardian betrayed WikiLeaks http://t.co/WPQxxrYv | Feb 20 20:51 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Feb 20 20:51 |
schestowitz | not your real name | Feb 20 20:56 |
schestowitz | you can also cloak the IP | Feb 20 20:56 |
Formic_ | you need to be a member for 2 weeks before freenode will cloak it | Feb 20 20:56 |
Formic_ | it takes about a day for authorities to turn an IP address into you and your home address | Feb 20 20:59 |
cubezzz | my name's been on the net for 16 years :) | Feb 20 21:00 |
cubezzz | no problems so far | Feb 20 21:00 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] NYTimes new attack on its "source" Julian Assange: live blog of responses | Nation http://t.co/Q6iKgvzN | Feb 20 21:01 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Feb 20 21:01 |
Formic_ | you're old and nobody cares | Feb 20 21:01 |
Formic_ | young people are the target | Feb 20 21:02 |
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schestowitz | "Those who do not understand gnu/linux are doomed to reinvent it poorly. " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1320589 | Feb 20 21:07 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Feb 20 21:07 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Donate to the MDA & win an Amazon Kindle Fire http://identi.ca/url/66917214 | Feb 20 21:08 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] smartphones are a *lot* trickier to do (nothing to do with UI btw) .. one day though :) | Feb 20 21:08 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Twitter Suspends Four Accounts Critical of #Sarkozy: Is This What He Meant By 'Civilizing' The Net? - http://bit.ly/yvgb7r not good #fr | Feb 20 21:08 | |
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TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Twitter Suspends Four Accounts Critical of Sarkozy: Is This What He Meant By 'Civilizing' The Net? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 46.98 KB | Feb 20 21:08 |
cubezzz | that's Unix schestowitz | Feb 20 21:09 |
cubezzz | historic revisionism | Feb 20 21:09 |
cubezzz | but sure, it still applies | Feb 20 21:09 |
schestowitz | Formic_: " | Feb 20 21:09 |
schestowitz | I hate that hairyfeet troll: | Feb 20 21:09 |
schestowitz | In the end, "it doesn't matter about matching Windows with features," hairyfeet concluded. "What matters is meeting or beating it in support, ease of use, and simplicity. And while Linux has made great strides, frankly it still has a long ways to go." | Feb 20 21:09 |
schestowitz | Let me rephrase that so that it makes sense. "Features of gnu/linux that make things easy to use, simplify internals and interfaces, and negate the need to support don't matter. I'm going to say that Linux has a long way to go." | Feb 20 21:09 |
schestowitz | " | Feb 20 21:09 |
schestowitz | Trollticles | Feb 20 21:09 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: yes, it was an intentional change of words there | Feb 20 21:10 |
Formic_ | lol | Feb 20 21:10 |
cubezzz | Formic_, the government might want to know about my PDP-8 research :) | Feb 20 21:11 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Rolling Stone: Assange vs. Keller http://t.co/6Q34gcIq | Feb 20 21:11 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Feb 20 21:11 |
cubezzz | probably not though | Feb 20 21:11 |
Formic_ | sure they do | Feb 20 21:12 |
Formic_ | just to make sure its not terrorism | Feb 20 21:12 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Ahem. So Microsoft also wants to ride the "Google is evil" wave. But they fail:“Google sends a P3P policy that fails... http://b1t.it/aSYW | Feb 20 21:14 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] What is the better term? Open Source? Free Software? Or Software Freedom? I think I will use the latter to avoid being... http://b1t.it/aSZ4 | Feb 20 21:19 | |
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Formic_ | cubezzz - did you snail mail people 100% of the time using postcards? | Feb 20 21:25 |
cubezzz | nope | Feb 20 21:26 |
cubezzz | I collect postcards, I don't send them. At least not very often | Feb 20 21:26 |
Formic_ | you're doing the same thing with unencrypted communication | Feb 20 21:27 |
cubezzz | right, it's an open net based on open standards | Feb 20 21:28 |
cubezzz | most of the time (unless I'm banking) I assume people can read what I send | Feb 20 21:28 |
Formic_ | where you are openly tracked | Feb 20 21:28 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Guest Post: The State of US #Surveillance | ZeroHedge http://goo.gl/hh64q #usa #policestate | Feb 20 21:29 | |
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cubezzz | if they do track me, they'll know I study old computers :) | Feb 20 21:31 |
cubezzz | which I post about in public anyway | Feb 20 21:32 |
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MinceR | i'm sure studying old computers is a reason to suspect terrorism ;) | Feb 20 21:34 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] A university is an institution. Expecting its policy to conform to law is not unreasonable. | Feb 20 21:34 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #RonPaul’s Libertarian Roots : The New Yorker http://goo.gl/nwmG2 | Feb 20 21:36 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @ladyniasan @rich_w: "Our strong advice to anyone who disagrees with same-sex marriage is not to get married to someone of the same sex." | Feb 20 21:36 | |
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Formic_ | cubezzz - its people like you that out the rest of us | Feb 20 21:42 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Announcement: @bkuhn (and legions of interested others) shall have 3 days to copy currently nondestroyed dents. #denticideispainless | Feb 20 21:43 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I explained why I don't think most of it was discrimination. Institutions and corporations are NOT human beings. | Feb 20 21:43 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] The Document Foundation incorporated http://ur1.ca/89z48 | Feb 20 21:44 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] EXCLUSIVE: ANGELA #MERKEL,THE NEW GERMAN PRESIDENT, & A GUILTY PAST | The Slog http://goo.gl/2uvVm #germany #Gauck | Feb 20 21:48 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody Twitter Suspends Four Accounts Critical of #Sarkozy: Is This What He Meant By 'Civilizing' The Net? - http://bit.ly/yvgb7r ... | Feb 20 21:49 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Video: The Assassination of Julian Assange https://t.co/uoBk9pav | Feb 20 21:51 | |
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DaemonFC | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/02/google-tricks-internet-explorer-into-accepting-tracking-cookies-microsoft-claims.ars?clicked=related_right | Feb 20 21:54 |
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DaemonFC | now Microsoft is in on this bullshit | Feb 20 21:54 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Discrimination has nothing to do with what I favor. Discrimination is the act of treating individuals in a selected group badly/different | Feb 20 21:54 | |
XFaCE | DaemonFC: MS bullshit or google bs? | Feb 20 21:55 |
DaemonFC | Microsoft | Feb 20 21:56 |
XFaCE | ah | Feb 20 21:56 |
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XFaCE | as expected | Feb 20 21:56 |
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DaemonFC | UPDATE: It turns out Facebook and many other sites are using an almost identical scheme to override Internet Explorer's privacy setting, according to a privacy researcher at Carnegie Mellon University. "Companies have discovered that they can lie in their [P3P policies] and nobody bothers to do anything about it," the researcher writes. | Feb 20 21:56 |
DaemonFC | lol | Feb 20 21:56 |
DaemonFC | P3P is useless | Feb 20 21:56 |
DaemonFC | it's why Mozilla browsers have never even supported it | Feb 20 21:57 |
XFaCE | p3p? | Feb 20 21:57 |
DaemonFC | "Platform for Privacy Preferences" | Feb 20 21:57 |
DaemonFC | it was never actually standardized | Feb 20 21:57 |
DaemonFC | because of the criticism that it is so easy to bypass | Feb 20 21:57 |
DaemonFC | IE is the only browser that even supports it | Feb 20 21:57 |
MinceR | strange, that didn't hold Do Not Track back | Feb 20 21:58 |
MinceR | what's the difference? | Feb 20 21:58 |
DaemonFC | P3P is even dumber | Feb 20 21:58 |
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DaemonFC | instead of passively sending the do not track header, P3P requires a site that wants to set cookies to take the time to lie about their privacy policy | Feb 20 21:59 |
MinceR | ic | Feb 20 22:00 |
DaemonFC | then there's a complex and confusing setup that the user has to go through to what level of tracking policy lies that they'll let IE accept | Feb 20 22:00 |
DaemonFC | and then if you set it too high and the site doesn't bother lying to IE, it could fail to set a benign cookie that causes IE to forget things like your log ins | Feb 20 22:00 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 20 22:01 |
DaemonFC | so pretty much every site puts a fake P3P header in to make sure IE's stupidity doesn't cause their site to break | Feb 20 22:01 |
DaemonFC | or because they really do want to track the user and there are no legal requirements to honor the P3P policy they tell IE they have | Feb 20 22:02 |
DaemonFC | either way, it's useless | Feb 20 22:02 |
DaemonFC | blocking connections to ad and tracking sites completely more or less solves the tracking problem | Feb 20 22:03 |
DaemonFC | but IE can't do that | Feb 20 22:03 |
DaemonFC | newer versions sort of can through "tracking protection lists", but those use a special IE-only XML format | Feb 20 22:04 |
DaemonFC | and if you get a duplicate entry, IE falls back to allowing traffic from that site | Feb 20 22:05 |
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MinceR | i guess we should be glad they use xml | Feb 20 22:05 |
schestowitz | and not xaml | Feb 20 22:05 |
DaemonFC | https://secure.fanboy.co.nz/ie.html | Feb 20 22:05 |
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schestowitz | MS makes proprietary rubbish sound similar to XML | Feb 20 22:05 |
MinceR | i mean not some sort of obfuscated binary memory dump | Feb 20 22:05 |
DaemonFC | https://secure.fanboy.co.nz/adblock/ie/fanboy-noele.tpl | Feb 20 22:06 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting text/plain type | Feb 20 22:06 |
MinceR | like DOC | Feb 20 22:06 |
schestowitz | Like they did with "Office Open XML" | Feb 20 22:06 |
schestowitz | What, XML? | Feb 20 22:06 |
schestowitz | No, not OOXMl | Feb 20 22:06 |
schestowitz | blobs | Feb 20 22:06 |
DaemonFC | there's what TPLs look like | Feb 20 22:06 |
schestowitz | in xml enclosured :-) | Feb 20 22:06 |
DaemonFC | unfortunately they only work well enough for ad blocking in IE 9 | Feb 20 22:06 |
MinceR | or obfuscated binary memory dump wrapped in XML, like OOXML :> | Feb 20 22:06 |
schestowitz | <branch>*HT&^@FGNB&^GD&^QFRE^V^DQV@FRQ</branch> | Feb 20 22:06 |
schestowitz | See? XML | Feb 20 22:06 |
DaemonFC | and they're not supported at all if you have IE 7 or older | Feb 20 22:06 |
schestowitz | And It's Office Open | Feb 20 22:06 |
schestowitz | Like OpenOffice | Feb 20 22:06 |
schestowitz | But in reverse | Feb 20 22:06 |
MinceR | <?xml version="1.0"?> <base64>sfWEFwr234WFsdf324... | Feb 20 22:07 |
MinceR | :> | Feb 20 22:07 |
DaemonFC | if you want to block ads in IE, you have to be running Windows 7 or else you can't have a version of IE that can do it | Feb 20 22:07 |
DaemonFC | but Firefox still works on Windows 2000 | Feb 20 22:07 |
MinceR | eciffOnepO XML | Feb 20 22:07 |
DaemonFC | Chrome needs Windows XP or higher | Feb 20 22:08 |
DaemonFC | and some of its sandboxing features won't work without at least Vista | Feb 20 22:08 |
DaemonFC | Windows XP had no concept of "Integrity levels" | Feb 20 22:09 |
DaemonFC | and only recognized users and administrators | Feb 20 22:09 |
schestowitz | scroogle is still dead | Feb 20 22:10 |
schestowitz | many days running... | Feb 20 22:10 |
DaemonFC | Google returns no result for Scroogle | Feb 20 22:10 |
DaemonFC | that was fast | Feb 20 22:10 |
MinceR | there's still startpage | Feb 20 22:10 |
schestowitz | but the whole site is down | Feb 20 22:10 |
schestowitz | and one source says DDOS might be the cause | Feb 20 22:11 |
schestowitz | statpage is slow | Feb 20 22:11 |
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schestowitz | startpage | Feb 20 22:11 |
schestowitz | if only it... well, started | Feb 20 22:11 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Council of European Union http://goo.gl/OoCE this f* idiots use ms-silverlight? HUGE #FAIL | Feb 20 22:11 | |
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Formic_ | its more polite an "scroogle" | Feb 20 22:12 |
Formic_ | and doesn't look like a 1997 tripod page | Feb 20 22:13 |
Formic_ | <cubezzz> right, it's an open net based on open standards | Feb 20 22:13 |
MinceR | i miss when tripod pages looked like scroogle | Feb 20 22:13 |
Formic_ | cjdns is open and helps you have your freedom by protecting your ID | Feb 20 22:14 |
MinceR | now we'd just get a huge blob of trash applets and other annoying crap | Feb 20 22:14 |
DaemonFC | MinceR: THIS SITE REQUIRES ZOMG FLASH AND ZOMG JAVASCRIPT ZOMG!!!!11111111112 | Feb 20 22:19 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 20 22:19 |
MinceR | indeed | Feb 20 22:19 |
MinceR | and you should consider yourself lucky it doesn't also demand silver lie | Feb 20 22:19 |
DaemonFC | nah, lucky that Silverlight never caught on | Feb 20 22:19 |
Formic_ | yeah | Feb 20 22:20 |
DaemonFC | in fact, even mentioning it is kind of like pretending it still exists for anything but malware for Windows | Feb 20 22:20 |
Formic_ | flash, java, silverlie can track you | Feb 20 22:20 |
DaemonFC | yeah, but Flash is glorious porn | Feb 20 22:20 |
DaemonFC | and sometimes malware for Windows | Feb 20 22:20 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 20 22:20 |
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MinceR | glorious malware for glorious windows! | Feb 20 22:21 |
DaemonFC | yeah | Feb 20 22:22 |
DaemonFC | and glorious Microsoft pretending that glorious lawsuits will solve the problem | Feb 20 22:22 |
DaemonFC | B-) | Feb 20 22:22 |
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DaemonFC | the US court system is a joke | Feb 20 22:23 |
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DaemonFC | they let spammers sue people for calling them spammers | Feb 20 22:23 |
DaemonFC | and WIN | Feb 20 22:23 |
MinceR | :> | Feb 20 22:24 |
DaemonFC | MinceR: There's a company in the UK called Spamhaus that maintains anti-spam filters | Feb 20 22:24 |
MinceR | they also decided that corporations are people and have freedom of speech and such | Feb 20 22:24 |
DaemonFC | they've been sued several times in the US, and the spammers always win because Spamhaus never defends itself | Feb 20 22:25 |
DaemonFC | the UK has a policy that they won't enforce lawsuit verdicts that were handed down in the absence of a defense | Feb 20 22:25 |
DaemonFC | so the judgements are meaningless | Feb 20 22:25 |
DaemonFC | so far they owe like several million dollars in a string of default judgements in favor of the spammers | Feb 20 22:26 |
DaemonFC | going back to at least 2002 | Feb 20 22:26 |
MinceR | :> | Feb 20 22:26 |
DaemonFC | MinceR: But at the same time the courts are giving spammers million dollar Pyrrhic victories, they're also sending some of them to prison | Feb 20 22:27 |
DaemonFC | it just depends on if they broke the minimal anti-spam laws that exist in the US | Feb 20 22:27 |
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DaemonFC | MinceR: Indiana doesn't have an anti-spam law but we do have deceptive advertising and fraud laws that have been applied to spammers | Feb 20 22:29 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 20 22:29 |
DaemonFC | they were actually passed before the internet even existed | Feb 20 22:29 |
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DaemonFC | the way it basically works is, a state gets jurisdiction if the spammer is operating in that state, or a spammer operating in another state sends spam to residents of that state | Feb 20 22:30 |
DaemonFC | other states have to comply with arrest warrants and extradition requests over this | Feb 20 22:30 |
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DaemonFC | but spam is pretty difficult to track to the original promoter | Feb 20 22:31 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Video: #WikiLeaks & Democracy forum with @AssangeC @SenatorLudlam @MaryKostakidis @suigenerisjen http://t.co/gzsF7npx | Feb 20 22:31 | |
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DaemonFC | so even if it is an American that is running this criminal enterprise, he is probably paying someone in a foreign country to design and deploy botnet malware and run the spamming operations on his behalf | Feb 20 22:32 |
DaemonFC | there have been a few cases where that was going on and they did prove where it originated | Feb 20 22:32 |
DaemonFC | and those people are in prison now | Feb 20 22:32 |
DaemonFC | but the majority will never get caught | Feb 20 22:33 |
DaemonFC | instead of building better software, Microsoft files Doe lawsuits against the operators of botnets (a Doe lawsuit is when you don't know who the defendant is), then a court can order *some* of the C&C servers seized and shut down | Feb 20 22:34 |
DaemonFC | it's all about perception management than actually solving the problem | Feb 20 22:34 |
DaemonFC | it's free PR too | Feb 20 22:36 |
DaemonFC | did I mention that? | Feb 20 22:36 |
DaemonFC | it costs Microsoft the same amount to have lawyers on retainer doing nothing or filing hilariously ineffective doe lawsuits against botnets | Feb 20 22:36 |
DaemonFC | but filing ineffective lawsuits creates the appearance that they're the good guys and they've always been at war with the spammers, blah blah | Feb 20 22:37 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] #HAKT, numer 4: ur1.ca/89zpx by Ola of @hackerspacepl fame :D | Feb 20 22:39 | |
XFaCE | Formic_: viva la cjdns | Feb 20 22:46 |
Formic_ | xface :) | Feb 20 22:47 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Guest Post: Consequences To Expect If The U.S. Invades #Iran | ZeroHedge http://goo.gl/Gd6cF #usa #mic | Feb 20 22:51 | |
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DaemonFC | well, I say we pull a Clinton | Feb 20 22:51 |
DaemonFC | lob some cruise missiles | Feb 20 22:52 |
DaemonFC | have the rest of the world wag their fingers at us | Feb 20 22:52 |
DaemonFC | tell them to go fuck themselves | Feb 20 22:52 |
DaemonFC | "But you bombed an antibiotic factory!" | Feb 20 22:52 |
Formic_ | then cum on some intern and lie about it? | Feb 20 22:52 |
DaemonFC | Waaaaah motehrfucker waash! | Feb 20 22:52 |
DaemonFC | yep :) | Feb 20 22:52 |
DaemonFC | Formic_: Clinton didn't do anything that abnormal | Feb 20 22:53 |
DaemonFC | everyone acted shocked when that's typically what married men and women end up doing at some point | Feb 20 22:53 |
DaemonFC | whether they get caught or not or if it leads to a divorce is a whole different story | Feb 20 22:54 |
DaemonFC | humans are not meant to be monogamous, that's something we made up | Feb 20 22:54 |
DaemonFC | there are some positive aspects to monogamy but those have nothing to do with human sexual behavior | Feb 20 22:55 |
MinceR | gn | Feb 20 22:57 |
fewt | Kernel 3.2.7 is now available | Feb 20 22:57 |
fewt | https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/2/20/412 | Feb 20 22:57 |
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zoobab | http://slashdot.org/recent | Feb 20 22:58 |
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DaemonFC | fewt: stable releases are for old ladies | Feb 20 22:58 |
DaemonFC | B-) | Feb 20 22:58 |
fewt | heh | Feb 20 22:58 |
DaemonFC | actually, I have been thinking about parking myself on Kubuntu 12.04 LTS | Feb 20 23:01 |
MinceR | "if i want cutting edge, i'll buy a sword. if i want bleeding edge, i'll use it." | Feb 20 23:01 |
DaemonFC | these last few 6 month releases have been especially bad | Feb 20 23:01 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Way cool⇒TONIGHT at 9 @timlouisjazz kicks off his new ♫Radio Show♪ 92.9 The Grand♫ http://www.thegrand929.com/ Congrats Tim! \o/ !wrawesome | Feb 20 23:06 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] Possibly because we don't trust modern medicine re patents & corporate profit motives? system has odd feedback loops wrt trust. | Feb 20 23:09 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @mlinksva "How is modern medical science getting so badly out-publicized, out-communicated, and out-SEOed by quacks?" http://ur1.ca/8 ... | Feb 20 23:09 | |
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schestowitz | "My kids seem to find a way to break it. " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1319509 | Feb 20 23:10 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] it may be free, but being nc abd nd it is far from Free. #tryFree | Feb 20 23:13 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @boskabout Dat zien we dan wel als het zo ver is ;) | Feb 20 23:16 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @thenerd_be @ikbenmartijn Misschien wel. Ik vraag dat eens na aan onze advocaat :) /cc @ywein | Feb 20 23:16 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Flash_Blue interesting. Thanks :) | Feb 20 23:16 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Flash_Blue wellicht wel, maar ik heb geen studiepunten meer dit semester. Eens vragen aan de boekhouder hoe dat zit. | Feb 20 23:16 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @iRail: Another proof of concept built with the iRail API - http://t.co/y80GhXU2 #opendata | Feb 20 23:16 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @davyyl dat hangt af van de thermometer | Feb 20 23:16 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Zelfstandigen op twitter die mij willen uitleggen hoe ze uit rompslomp zijn geraakt? #kafkaësk - Betal http://ur1.c ... | Feb 20 23:16 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @ikbenmartijn @boskabout @netlash @yoniweb hoezo, open? Enkel voor intern gebruik ;) | Feb 20 23:16 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @ikbenmartijn @boskabout @netlash @yoniweb tot je het commercieel wilt exploiteren en legaal in orde wi http://ur1. ... | Feb 20 23:16 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @netlash @boskabout @ikbenmartijn Goed en wel, maar legaal gezien blijft het copyright-infringement. | Feb 20 23:16 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Fiscaal zou mijn situatie er veel aantrekkelijker uitzien als ik zou huwen. Bij deze mogen kandidaten z http://ur1. ... | Feb 20 23:18 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @boskabout ik stuurde zonet een mailtje naar Duco Sickinghe rond #opendata. Omdat het niet veel werk was. #telenet | Feb 20 23:18 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @ikbenmartijn @boskabout @netlash @yoniweb Om verwarring te vermijden: ik ben wel degelijk fan van #tvtweets :) | Feb 20 23:18 | |
DaemonFC | easy | Feb 20 23:21 |
DaemonFC | quacks tell you whatever you want to hear | Feb 20 23:21 |
DaemonFC | even if it isn't true | Feb 20 23:21 |
Formic_ | most of them work for the government | Feb 20 23:23 |
DaemonFC | well, if the government ever tries to silence the quack(s), the quack(s) just claim that their freedom of speech is under attack | Feb 20 23:24 |
DaemonFC | like Kevin Trudeau did | Feb 20 23:24 |
DaemonFC | repeatedly | Feb 20 23:24 |
Formic_ | its true though | Feb 20 23:25 |
Formic_ | their freedom of speech is under attack | Feb 20 23:25 |
Formic_ | they should have the right to lie | Feb 20 23:25 |
Formic_ | or be crazy | Feb 20 23:26 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @mlinksva "How is modern medical science getting so badly out-publicized, out-communicated, and out-SEOed by quacks?" http://ur1.ca/8 ... | Feb 20 23:26 | |
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DaemonFC | if there's a constitutionally protected right to lie to rip people off | Feb 20 23:26 |
DaemonFC | we need to let a lot of people out of prison | Feb 20 23:27 |
Formic_ | stupid people will get ripped off | Feb 20 23:27 |
DaemonFC | everything from Bernie Madoff to people who committed check fraud | Feb 20 23:27 |
Formic_ | think of all the stupid idiots buying windows hardware | Feb 20 23:27 |
DaemonFC | yeah, and it should be illegal | Feb 20 23:28 |
DaemonFC | maybe they deserve to be ripped off but I shouldn't have to suffer when Microsoft taints elections and bribes politicians with that money | Feb 20 23:29 |
Formic_ | nothing should be illegal | Feb 20 23:29 |
_Goblin | Formic_: nothing at all? | Feb 20 23:29 |
Formic_ | correct | Feb 20 23:30 |
_Goblin | absolutely nothing? | Feb 20 23:30 |
DaemonFC | so if I kill you, then I shouldn't go to prison | Feb 20 23:30 |
Formic_ | im an anarchist | Feb 20 23:30 |
Formic_ | no government | Feb 20 23:30 |
_Goblin | oh. ok. | Feb 20 23:30 |
Formic_ | [18:29] <DaemonFC> so if I kill you, then I shouldn't go to prison | Feb 20 23:31 |
schestowitz | rah rah rah... liberties. RON PAUKL!! | Feb 20 23:31 |
_Goblin | so everyone can do what they like? | Feb 20 23:31 |
Formic_ | currently: the government doesn't go to prison | Feb 20 23:31 |
DaemonFC | yeah, people really don't want anarchy | Feb 20 23:31 |
schestowitz | people want to rule | Feb 20 23:31 |
_Goblin | Formic_: including me? no rules, no responsibility, no answering to anyone? | Feb 20 23:31 |
schestowitz | They want monarchy | Feb 20 23:31 |
schestowitz | where they are on top | Feb 20 23:31 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: see my pm :) | Feb 20 23:31 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: Go sing god bless your queen or...something | Feb 20 23:32 |
DaemonFC | the old bag must be 1,000 by now | Feb 20 23:32 |
schestowitz | me? no way | Feb 20 23:32 |
DaemonFC | God keeps her around | Feb 20 23:32 |
DaemonFC | to do his bidding | Feb 20 23:32 |
schestowitz | God blesses people in need | Feb 20 23:32 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 20 23:32 |
schestowitz | not monarchs | Feb 20 23:32 |
Formic_ | _Goblin - I don't assume humans are assholes in nature, without government and tyranny people just wouldn't have to do bad things to each other | Feb 20 23:32 |
schestowitz | monarchs think they're God (in the Einstienian sense) | Feb 20 23:33 |
DaemonFC | you make a fatal assumption | Feb 20 23:33 |
_Goblin | Formic_: how can fairness and justice be executed when you have to rely on the biased views of those involved? | Feb 20 23:33 |
DaemonFC | several really | Feb 20 23:33 |
DaemonFC | but the worst one is that there even is a god | Feb 20 23:33 |
Formic_ | _Goblin - there is no fairness and justice with government | Feb 20 23:33 |
_Goblin | Formic_: for example....if I dont like you, I can ban you.....hows that fair to you? | Feb 20 23:33 |
schestowitz | _Goblin: extradition | Feb 20 23:33 |
DaemonFC | and if he cared for people in need, then there wouldn't be millions of them | Feb 20 23:33 |
Formic_ | who has been arrested for poisoning the water, the air and the food? | Feb 20 23:33 |
schestowitz | huh? | Feb 20 23:33 |
schestowitz | ender? | Feb 20 23:33 |
Formic_ | who has been arrested for illegal war? | Feb 20 23:33 |
DaemonFC | and it is more likely that politicians use religion to keep the commoners in line | Feb 20 23:34 |
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_Goblin | Formic_: but change the topic to local issues that affect me and you now...say theft of property or right to family life.... | Feb 20 23:34 |
DaemonFC | it's easier to accept a shitty life where there's nothing in it for you when you are told you'll go to heaven for putting up with it | Feb 20 23:34 |
Formic_ | Since Bush wasn't arrested, does that mean what he did was fair and served justice? | Feb 20 23:34 |
_Goblin | Formic_: like I say anarchy wont work | Feb 20 23:34 |
_Goblin | Formic_: because there's no fairness if anyone can do whatever they like. | Feb 20 23:35 |
DaemonFC | yeah, only some people get to do whatever they want, _Goblin | Feb 20 23:35 |
Formic_ | _Goblin all government has done is pass laws so that their buddies can do bad things to people and you can't | Feb 20 23:35 |
DaemonFC | the people in charge | Feb 20 23:35 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: true | Feb 20 23:35 |
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_Goblin | Formic_: thats not answering my question | Feb 20 23:35 |
schestowitz | people already do what they want | Feb 20 23:35 |
schestowitz | just not ALL people | Feb 20 23:35 |
schestowitz | only those who own the system | Feb 20 23:35 |
Formic_ | rich people get to do whatever they want already | Feb 20 23:36 |
_Goblin | Formic_: change the subject to the big topics such as war, I'd agree, nobody does seem to answer.... | Feb 20 23:36 |
schestowitz | see PIPA/ACTA and invasion of Iraq despite protests | Feb 20 23:36 |
Formic_ | even if a rich person breaks a law, the justice system is rigged in their favour | Feb 20 23:36 |
_Goblin | Formic_: what like the politicians thrown in jail for fiddling expenses? | Feb 20 23:36 |
_Goblin | Formic_: what like Jeffrey Archer? | Feb 20 23:36 |
Formic_ | why does your government need warrantless wiretapping? | Feb 20 23:37 |
_Goblin | I'm sorry? | Feb 20 23:37 |
schestowitz | that's the US | Feb 20 23:37 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: it's anywhere the people in charge want it done | Feb 20 23:37 |
schestowitz | carriers do keep track of calls, but that's not wiretapping in the same sense the US does it | Feb 20 23:38 |
Formic_ | there was a new law that passed | Feb 20 23:38 |
_Goblin | well re: the internet....it doesn't need it.....nearly every ISP in the UK has its users digitally signing an agreement allowing it....no need for a warrant | Feb 20 23:38 |
_Goblin | Formic_: rubbish | Feb 20 23:38 |
_Goblin | Formic_: unless you are talking us | Feb 20 23:38 |
Formic_ | yeah see | Feb 20 23:38 |
_Goblin | *US | Feb 20 23:38 |
_Goblin | what law? | Feb 20 23:38 |
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Formic_ | you have to agree to be tracked to get internet by signing that agreement | Feb 20 23:38 |
_Goblin | then vote with your feet | Feb 20 23:38 |
schestowitz | !google harman wiretapping | Feb 20 23:38 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Jane Harman's Wiretapped Conversations - Washington Post ... | http://voices.washingtonpost.com/washingtonpostinvestigations/2009/04/jane_harmans_mysterious_conver.html | Feb 20 23:38 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Pelosi Now Remembers Harman Wiretap - NYTimes.com | http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/04/22/pelosi-now-remembers-harman-wiretap/ | Feb 20 23:38 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Congresswoman calls alleged wiretap 'abuse of power' - CNN | http://articles.cnn.com/2009-04-21/politics/harman.wiretap_1_wiretap-rep-jane-harman-national-security-agency%3F_s%3DPM:POLITICS | Feb 20 23:38 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Rogue Agents Tipped Pelosi To Harman Wiretap | http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/rogue_agents_tipped_pelosi_to_harman_wiretap/ | Feb 20 23:38 |
_Goblin | don't go with the ISP | Feb 20 23:38 |
Formic_ | you said nearly every ISP does that | Feb 20 23:39 |
_Goblin | yep... | Feb 20 23:39 |
schestowitz | that would not be legal in the UK, unless you're Rupert Murdoch | Feb 20 23:39 |
_Goblin | not to do with any law you've imagined | Feb 20 23:39 |
Formic_ | why not just bypass it technologically | Feb 20 23:39 |
schestowitz | Nor that there would not be arrests, just not arrests of Rupe :-) | Feb 20 23:39 |
_Goblin | well you can. | Feb 20 23:39 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: She deserved it | Feb 20 23:39 |
_Goblin | Formic_: I'm still waiting to hear this law thats come out | Feb 20 23:39 |
Formic_ | they cant wiretap encrypted data | Feb 20 23:39 |
DaemonFC | she voted for the PATRIOT ACT | Feb 20 23:39 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: true | Feb 20 23:39 |
schestowitz | they should do the same to Harmon | Feb 20 23:39 |
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DaemonFC | you know, it WAS Harman | Feb 20 23:40 |
schestowitz | mnot Harmon? | Feb 20 23:40 |
_Goblin | Harriot Harmon? | Feb 20 23:40 |
DaemonFC | until the army messed up my grandfather's name | Feb 20 23:40 |
schestowitz | Your maiden name | Feb 20 23:40 |
DaemonFC | and it stuck as "Harmon" | Feb 20 23:40 |
schestowitz | LOL | Feb 20 23:40 |
schestowitz | making typo the norm | Feb 20 23:40 |
schestowitz | There's also Hermann and Herman | Feb 20 23:41 |
Formic_ | there is a canadian lawful access online spying law | Feb 20 23:41 |
schestowitz | Usually German descent | Feb 20 23:41 |
Formic_ | perhaps I mixed it up with UK | Feb 20 23:41 |
Formic_ | nobody is perfect | Feb 20 23:41 |
_Goblin | Formic_: or maybe you made it up? | Feb 20 23:41 |
_Goblin | Formic_: no such law. | Feb 20 23:42 |
Formic_ | why would you assume i'm being devious? | Feb 20 23:42 |
Formic_ | I can't make a mistake, I can only make up shit? | Feb 20 23:42 |
_Goblin | because....I think Roy would agree my grasp of criminal and civil law is quite extensive.... | Feb 20 23:42 |
schestowitz | it would be known and people would be up in arms if the PATRIOT ACT equiv. was instated here | Feb 20 23:42 |
_Goblin | and because... | Feb 20 23:42 |
schestowitz | There's Echelon though, it's an intl' problem | Feb 20 23:42 |
_Goblin | a new law is something which hits the papers and press.... | Feb 20 23:43 |
schestowitz | Formic_: maybe you misread something | Feb 20 23:43 |
_Goblin | its not likely to slip through unnoticed... especially one like you suggested | Feb 20 23:43 |
Formic_ | i was pretty sure i saw it but considering i dont live in the UK, i didnt bookmark it or keep track of it | Feb 20 23:43 |
schestowitz | in the US you can wiretap and use that | Feb 20 23:43 |
schestowitz | In the Uk you'd break the law doing it | Feb 20 23:43 |
Formic_ | the US, everything is wiretapped | Feb 20 23:43 |
schestowitz | That's the difference | Feb 20 23:43 |
Formic_ | anyone visiting a US based site is being tracked | Feb 20 23:44 |
_Goblin | Formic_: then I suggest in future before claiming as fact you should check it out...its not difficult a google search would do it. | Feb 20 23:44 |
_Goblin | then use a proxy | Feb 20 23:44 |
_Goblin | can we move on? | Feb 20 23:44 |
schestowitz | LOL Obama promised to repeal it | Feb 20 23:44 |
schestowitz | What a fail | Feb 20 23:44 |
Formic_ | i think its important that people are able to legally hide who they are | Feb 20 23:45 |
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schestowitz | "Windows -- simplicity?!?!? Hahahahaha!" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1320589 | Feb 20 23:45 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Feb 20 23:45 |
_Goblin | Formic_: they can | Feb 20 23:45 |
Formic_ | not on unencrypted regular internet | Feb 20 23:45 |
_Goblin | Formic_: certainly here in the UK its no offense to hide you ID online | Feb 20 23:45 |
schestowitz | otherwise they can be banned | Feb 20 23:45 |
Formic_ | in the US, use of an anonymizing proxy at a public terminal is terrorism!! | Feb 20 23:45 |
schestowitz | [20:39] <Formic_> techrights should open a channel up on subluminal | Feb 20 23:45 |
schestowitz | [20:40] <Formic_> an irc server on the cjdns darknet | Feb 20 23:45 |
schestowitz | So Brandon... | Feb 20 23:46 |
_Goblin | Formic_: any UK resident can legally hide their IP, encrypt their data....stop talking rubbish | Feb 20 23:46 |
schestowitz | How goes it? | Feb 20 23:46 |
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_Goblin | schestowitz: Brandon claims he doesn't nym shift....it can't be him ;) | Feb 20 23:46 |
schestowitz | he's not him | Feb 20 23:46 |
schestowitz | [23:45] <Formic_> i think its important that people are able to legally hide who they are | Feb 20 23:46 |
_Goblin | mind you, that logic certainly sounds like Brandon | Feb 20 23:47 |
_Goblin | arguing about something that already exists. | Feb 20 23:47 |
Formic_ | you have me mixed up with someone I think | Feb 20 23:48 |
Formic_ | that's not my name | Feb 20 23:48 |
_Goblin | no probs | Feb 20 23:48 |
_Goblin | this is anarchy remember....we can do as we please | Feb 20 23:48 |
_Goblin | so don't whine | Feb 20 23:48 |
_Goblin | no rules. | Feb 20 23:48 |
_Goblin | no responsibility | Feb 20 23:48 |
Formic_ | this channel is under anarchy? | Feb 20 23:48 |
Formic_ | is it schestowitz ? | Feb 20 23:48 |
_Goblin | for now yes... | Feb 20 23:48 |
DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subversive_Activities_Control_Act | Feb 20 23:48 |
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Formic_ | wasn't aware that there were official anarchy channels | Feb 20 23:49 |
_Goblin | its like a happy hour | Feb 20 23:49 |
_Goblin | an anarchy hour | Feb 20 23:49 |
schestowitz | anarchy is misunderstood | Feb 20 23:49 |
Formic_ | does everyone get ops? or does everyone turn ops off? | Feb 20 23:49 |
schestowitz | it dosn't imply conflict | Feb 20 23:49 |
_Goblin | now...what to do with my new found anarchy..... | Feb 20 23:49 |
schestowitz | just not rulers | Feb 20 23:49 |
schestowitz | there are many forms of anarchism | Feb 20 23:49 |
schestowitz | I think wikipedia has a good list of them | Feb 20 23:49 |
_Goblin | Formic_: no everyone doesn't get ops......see? this anarchy is not fair...I'm not giving you op's and I don't have to answer to anyone. | Feb 20 23:50 |
schestowitz | last I checked anyway, because some intellectuals too choose a camp among those that exist there, some are hybrids | Feb 20 23:50 |
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_Goblin | Formic_: If I were you I'd stick to imagining some more laws. | Feb 20 23:50 |
_Goblin | Did you know theres a UK law introduced that makes it illegal to be stupid in IRC? ;) | Feb 20 23:51 |
Formic_ | schestowitz - I detect a threatening tone from one of your ops | Feb 20 23:51 |
_Goblin | who me? | Feb 20 23:51 |
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_Goblin | this is anarchy | Feb 20 23:51 |
_Goblin | tough luck | Feb 20 23:51 |
_Goblin | or had you forgotten? | Feb 20 23:51 |
_Goblin | nobody to whine to..... | Feb 20 23:52 |
Formic_ | yeah but I can't exactly use anarchy myself | Feb 20 23:52 |
_Goblin | exactly.... | Feb 20 23:52 |
_Goblin | so what do you do... | Feb 20 23:52 |
_Goblin | when your neighbour comes around with a semi and his mates and wants your car | Feb 20 23:53 |
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_Goblin | who do you whine to then in your anarchy world? | Feb 20 23:53 |
Formic_ | then I pull out my AK-47 | Feb 20 23:53 |
_Goblin | right... | Feb 20 23:53 |
Formic_ | ratta tat tat | Feb 20 23:53 |
_Goblin | I see the level we are working with now | Feb 20 23:53 |
_Goblin | sounds great this anarchy world of yours. | Feb 20 23:53 |
Formic_ | you see though, if the world was really under anarchy and you used that freedom to do something to me in this channel | Feb 20 23:54 |
Formic_ | i couldn't exactly use anarchy myself | Feb 20 23:54 |
_Goblin | you could create your own channel | Feb 20 23:54 |
_Goblin | and spout there | Feb 20 23:54 |
Formic_ | so your not really using anarchy, you're using monarchy | Feb 20 23:54 |
_Goblin | then you'll address me as your majesty. | Feb 20 23:54 |
*_Goblin is now known as King | Feb 20 23:55 | |
*King is now known as KingGoblin | Feb 20 23:55 | |
Formic_ | lol | Feb 20 23:55 |
KingGoblin | Right my loyal subjects....One must go for a smoke. | Feb 20 23:56 |
sebsebseb | KingGoblin: smoking is bad! | Feb 20 23:56 |
sebsebseb | for your health | Feb 20 23:57 |
sebsebseb | and the health of other people if to close to you | Feb 20 23:57 |
scientes | haha | Feb 20 23:57 |
Formic_ | let him smoke | Feb 20 23:57 |
Formic_ | lol | Feb 20 23:57 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Stable kernel updates 3.2.7 and 3.0.22 http://ur1.ca/8a0p0 | Feb 20 23:58 | |
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sebsebseb | Formic_: I don't seem to have a choice, my KingGoblin remote control device, isn't working :( | Feb 20 23:58 |
KingGoblin | sebsebseb: I think you should end that with a southpark "Mmmkkay" as for the health of others I go outside | Feb 20 23:58 |
sebsebseb | KingGoblin: yeah Mr Macky :D | Feb 20 23:58 |
KingGoblin | Whilst I'm gone.... | Feb 20 23:59 |
KingGoblin | I annoint you Sebsebseb.... | Feb 20 23:59 |
KingGoblin | Rise Knight Sebsebseb | Feb 20 23:59 |
*KingGoblin gives channel operator status to sebsebseb | Feb 20 23:59 |
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