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sebsebsebKingGoblin: heh heh, ok thanks :)Feb 21 00:00
KingGoblinsebsebseb: Feel free to be anarchic as you like.Feb 21 00:00
KingGoblinsebsebseb: formic loves all that anarchy larkFeb 21 00:01
KingGoblinsebsebseb: and if you are lucky he might make up a few new laws which he'll claim are true.Feb 21 00:01
sebsebsebKingGoblin: I have this remote control device, that is meant to stop you smoking :D, but it's not working, so well uhmm I guess, go have fun enjoying your smoke.Feb 21 00:02
DaemonFChttps://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bay-says-goodbye-to-most-torrents-on-february-29-120213/Feb 21 00:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Pirate Bay Says Goodbye to (Most) Torrents on February 29 | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 38.11 KBFeb 21 00:02
sebsebsebDaemonFC: yeah something about piratebay closing or whatever  someone said something on IRC earlierFeb 21 00:02
sebsebseboh and the pirates have plenty of other sites they can use insteadFeb 21 00:02
DaemonFCnoFeb 21 00:03
*schestowitz bows to the KingFeb 21 00:03
DaemonFCthey're deleting the torrent filesFeb 21 00:03
DaemonFCthey're going to magnet linksFeb 21 00:03
schestowitzhttp://techcrunch.com/2012/02/17/foxconn-increases-wages-raises-pay-by-16-25-for-chinese-workers/Feb 21 00:03
DaemonFCit's to make their site easier to duplicateFeb 21 00:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Foxconn Increases Wages, Raises Pay By 16-25% For Chinese Workers | TechCrunch .::. Size~: 55.76 KBFeb 21 00:03
DaemonFCtherefore, harder to censorFeb 21 00:04
schestowitzmeanwhile in the US wages are stagnatingFeb 21 00:04
schestowitzglobaiisation in actionFeb 21 00:04
schestowitzfast forwardFeb 21 00:04
DaemonFCcapitalism will chase labor to wherever it's cheapest and wherever the environmental protection laws are non-existent or a total shamFeb 21 00:04
KingGoblinand what would happen in an anarchist state...?Feb 21 00:12
KingGoblineveryone would get on and self-police?Feb 21 00:12
KingGoblinor is it possible that people would be "ruled" by the biggest, strongest gang and forced to live their way with the rules they decide?Feb 21 00:13
KingGoblinI'm quite sure in Formic_ 's wibbly wobbly world of no rules everyone would get on...Feb 21 00:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @BatistLeman zolang dat het in bijberoep is en duidelijk werd afgesproken :)Feb 21 00:18
KingGoblinvery quiet there Formic_ what do you reckon...in your world without rules do you think everyone will get along?Feb 21 00:19
KingGoblinI'll take that as a no then..... moving on, its interesting to see that TPB might be blocked by some ISP's...Feb 21 00:27
schestowitz:(Feb 21 00:27
KingGoblindoes it matter?Feb 21 00:27
schestowitzcensorshipFeb 21 00:27
schestowitzstarting with copyrightsFeb 21 00:27
schestowitzjust like in China when it startedFeb 21 00:27
KingGoblinwell yes, but its coming as a result of fear from the entertainment industry not legislation.Feb 21 00:28
KingGoblinand its rather easy to circumvent.Feb 21 00:28
KingGoblinthe ISP's know this, but are merely ticking boxes so they can't be hassled by the entertainment industryFeb 21 00:28
KingGoblin"We've done all we can!!"Feb 21 00:29
KingGoblinand in China that came as a result of government pressure...this is coming from a percieved future pressure from the entertainment industryFeb 21 00:29
DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/02/can-porn-be-copyrighted-one-file-sharing-defendant-says-no.arsFeb 21 00:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Can porn be copyrighted? One file-sharing defendant says no .::. Size~: 39.77 KBFeb 21 00:31
DaemonFCFREE PORN!Feb 21 00:32
KingGoblinpersonally I don't think the ISP's will be leaned upon too heavily by the industry since they rely on the ISP's to deliver their  "authorized" content through them.Feb 21 00:32
KingGoblincould you imagine if say Warner leaned upon all the UK ISP's and they turned around and blocked all access to official Warner channels? Not good for business.Feb 21 00:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Harry Potter comes in Latin?Feb 21 00:36
DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/business/news/2012/02/chrome-17-released-will-preload-autocompleted-urls-as-you-type.arsFeb 21 00:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Chrome 17 released, will preload autocompleted URLs as you type .::. Size~: 33.06 KBFeb 21 00:37
DaemonFCChrome 17 sends all the info about what you download to GoogleFeb 21 00:38
DaemonFCjust like IE does for MicrosoftFeb 21 00:38
DaemonFCdisabling this requires the user to disable all phishing and malware protectionFeb 21 00:38
KingGoblindamn clever that chrome...... I suppose...shock horror, people could...you know...use a different browser if they didn't like the idea....Feb 21 00:38
KingGoblincall me silly, but if I want to buy a new car and the engine isn't powerful enough...I'll buy a different model.....Feb 21 00:39
DaemonFCmost people won't noticeFeb 21 00:40
KingGoblinthen you tell them.Feb 21 00:40
DaemonFCin the mean time, Google's spyware will still be activeFeb 21 00:40
KingGoblinthen you tell them....Feb 21 00:40
KingGoblinif you know, you can't bleat about privacy, you're free to use whatever you want....Feb 21 00:40
KingGoblinbut of course its rather moot since most people have digitally signed away their privacy at an ISP level anyway.Feb 21 00:41
KingGoblin(in the UK)Feb 21 00:41
DaemonFCwe are not amusedFeb 21 00:41
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 00:41
KingGoblinnope....Feb 21 00:41
KingGoblinI suppose we could all go back to the days of dailup and BBS....that'll sort everything out.Feb 21 00:42
Formic_KingGoblin - http://homeward.homestead.com/Feb 21 00:44
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Formic_want to play LORD?Feb 21 00:45
KingGoblinoffers a telnet connection too.......Feb 21 00:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] REVEALED: Angela #Merkel – Rigid serial conformist….. | The Slog http://goo.gl/smV2j "ruthlessly disloyal when it suits her"Feb 21 00:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Gräßlin: The Costs of Supporting Legacy Hardware http://ur1.ca/8a1clFeb 21 00:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The Support #Assange and #WikiLeaks site now updated with "How can you help? Take action / Donate" info from #wlad: http://t.co/BGd1JnYsFeb 21 01:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] A Member of Polish Parliament: !ACTA is passé http://rys.io/en/64 #facepalmFeb 21 01:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Because ACTA is passé :: RysioBrag .::. Size~: 8.38 KBFeb 21 01:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] σε λίγο η εκδοση 1.0.1 του @radiobubble app θα ειναι online με αισθητικες αλλαγες για ευκολοτερη αναγνωση των κατηγοριων !rbandroidFeb 21 01:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Wondering what @gregkh really does all day? He shares his focus areas and projects in a new blog: http://bit.ly/wF5KiL #linuxFeb 21 01:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Germany drawing up plans for Greece to leave the euro - Telegraph http://goo.gl/OoPGgFeb 21 01:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @chromatic Eagerly awaiting the article "Using Skinny Jeans and Ironic Facial Hair as a NoSQL Data Store in Node.js".Feb 21 01:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] half an hour 'til @timlouisjazz NEW♫Radio Show⇒"The Jazz Pianists"♪92.9 The Grand♫Online: http://www.thegrand929.com/ ♫9 TONIGHT !wrawesomeFeb 21 01:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] μου τι δινει να περιμενω το android market ποτε θα αποφασισει να ανανεωσει τη βαση τουFeb 21 01:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] In this time of broadcaster belt tightening southern Ontario is rolling out a new non-profit radio startup http://www.thegrand929.com/Feb 21 01:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Indeed. Can you afford to be stuck with another decade of Websphere/Weblogic? http://ur1.ca/8a240Feb 21 01:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] IE has security? Huh?Feb 21 01:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Spain sending military planes to retrieve treasure - Yahoo! Finance http://goo.gl/jT1LIFeb 21 01:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @linuxfoundation Wondering what @gregkh really does all day? He shares his focus areas and projects in a new blog: http://bit.ly/wF5K ...Feb 21 01:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @mchua New blog post: The TOS symposium is coming up at SIGCSE http://ur1.ca/8a0paFeb 21 01:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #SaudiArabia vows to end violence with iron fist | Reuters http://goo.gl/ngGYn #hypocrites, where's #nato?Feb 21 01:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Americans Elect 2012 | The first direct presidential nomination http://goo.gl/iJgnp see http://goo.gl/J9JD5Feb 21 01:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @johnalexwood Making a Killing: The Untold Story of Psychotropic Drugging - Full Movie (Documentary) - http://ow.ly/9bx4i A real eye ...Feb 21 01:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @ignacioanibal qué linda!Feb 21 02:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Any bets on when the first law-firm-lawyer type will post an "Unsubscribe me" message to #OSI license-review in response to !CC0 discussion?Feb 21 02:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @igorsoares FAmSCo January report published: http://ur1.ca/8a249 #FedoraFeb 21 02:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Australia: Does your MP support WikiLeaks? Find out here: http://t.co/dBcyGNCmFeb 21 02:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] London: Solidarity vigil for Bradley #Manning at the US Embassy on the date of his arraignment http://t.co/nFUeCF09 #WikiLeaks #FreeBradFeb 21 02:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @m4nima1 "GoingNative 2012 | Channel 9" from http://ur1.ca/8a2mkFeb 21 02:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @m4nima1 "Extraordinary pictures of solar 'tornado' as large as the Earth moving at 300,000mph | Mail Online" from http://ur1.ca/8a2lwFeb 21 03:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] @fontana are there any in the first place?Feb 21 03:01
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LirodonWould forking SuSE in a more "tolerable" form be acceptable to you?Feb 21 05:03
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Formic_cubezzzFeb 21 05:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Totally.Feb 21 05:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] I can't really recommend anything. I have an X220. You'll need to replace the wifi card, crack the BIOS and still have nonfree BIOS.Feb 21 05:15
Formic_Lirodon - I like SuSE, its not badFeb 21 05:20
Formic_openSuSE I should sayFeb 21 05:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] It doesn't look good, but at least for now there's a possibility that free software can still be run.Feb 21 05:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] I like the part of his bio where he "invented the Affero clause of the AGPL" -- makes you wonder what the license did before that clause.Feb 21 05:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] After trying to join the Google bashing bandwagon, MSFT, as usual end up looking foolish, since their own websites exp... http://b1t.it/aTadFeb 21 05:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] For @robmyers -- http://identi.ca/url/66935454Feb 21 05:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsmag/@fsmag] There is a simple, powerful command to find out about the world of timezone: tzselect. Here is how it works! http://fsmsh.com/3715Feb 21 05:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !linuxlibre 3.2.7-libre and 3.0.22-libre sources are now availableFeb 21 05:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsmag/@fsmag] Dmitri Popov tells us how when you need to quickly view and process a handful of RAW files, consider GTKRawGallery http://fsmsh.com/3717Feb 21 05:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] US Trade Rep doesn't know what "transparent" or "lobbyist" means http://identi.ca/url/66936429Feb 21 06:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Now out: #Linux #kernel 3.0.22 http://bit.ly/wtvQO7 and 3.2.7 http://bit.ly/yM777E #stable #longterm #mustupgradeFeb 21 06:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] RT @gregkh: What I do: http://t.co/WXXa5Su2Feb 21 06:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] ....oh, this is using identica. no wonder I'm getting extra messagesFeb 21 07:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzag Identizens cc kevie. So how do you pronounce daemon?Feb 21 07:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Sala Tronului, sanctuarul profanat http://ur1.ca/8a5xd #romania #bucuresti #monarhie #monarchy #royal #regeFeb 21 07:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Ken Livingstone "Hang a banker a week until the others start behaving"Feb 21 07:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] How To Turn A Legitimate Buyer Into A Pirate In Five Easy Steps http://goo.gl/C1nMUFeb 21 08:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] DHL found the missing box and delivered it this morning! whew! i haz !Spark dev tablets :)Feb 21 08:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] The Oatmeal gets it spot on again http://ur1.ca/89zi6 http://ur1.ca/7k2fk... http://b1t.it/aTdzFeb 21 08:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @aseigo: DHL found the missing box and delivered it this morning! whew! i haz #Spark dev tablets :) - and they all rejoiced \o/Feb 21 08:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Climate scientist Peter Gleick admits he leaked #HeartlandInstitute documents http://gu.com/p/35jx3Feb 21 08:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] καλημέρα κόσμε. ενημερώνω οτι βγήκε το @radiobubble app v1.0.1 με μερικές αισθητικές αλλαγές http://identi.ca/url/66940854 !rbandroidFeb 21 08:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] We need to know who funds these thinktank lobbyists http://gu.com/p/35tq9 & the newspapers providing the PR "news" stories from themFeb 21 08:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] ευχαριστώ την @catalternative κ τον @cozats για τις δοκιμές που έκαναν στην εκδοση 1.0.1 πριν βγει και το feedback τους !rbandroidFeb 21 08:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What does #Ubuntu want to be? http://ur1.ca/89ypc #linuxFeb 21 08:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Debian Project News - February 20th, 2012 http://ur1.ca/8a6na #gnu #linuxFeb 21 08:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] First look at #Asturix 4 and On desktop http://ur1.ca/8a6o4 #gnu #linuxFeb 21 08:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] What's an "Open Cloud," Anyway? - http://ur1.ca/8a6ppFeb 21 08:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LinuxMint 12: Why it's the best desktop OS http://ur1.ca/8a6q1... http://b1t.it/aTedFeb 21 08:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] PCLinuxOS Phoenix Edition 2012-02 Maintenance Release http://ur1.ca/8a6rh #pclos #gnu #linuxFeb 21 08:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Cloudstore: Government launches public sector app store http://goo.gl/7bgnp cue lots of firms overcharging govt with built in blamehoundFeb 21 08:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is Tablet-Creep in Operating Systems a Bad Thing and Must we Accept it? http://ur1.ca/8a6t0... http://b1t.it/aTepFeb 21 08:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @comzeradd #Mozilla leads in HTML5 accessibility support http://ur1.ca/85ey0Feb 21 08:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Top 5 Ubuntu pre-installed Laptop companies http://ur1.ca/8a6u8 #gnu #linuxFeb 21 09:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #tdf Incorporated in Germany http://ur1.ca/8a6uk #odfFeb 21 09:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Thoughts on Hiring Linux Hackers (in 2012) http://ur1.ca/8a6vq #linuxFeb 21 09:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: From the Canyon Edge - :-Dustin Kirkland: Thoughts on Hiring Linux Hackers (in 2012) .::. Size~: 67.02 KBFeb 21 09:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Twitter Suspends Four Accounts Critical of #Sarkozy: Is This What He Meant By 'Civilizing' Net? - http://bit.ly/yvgb7r [RT from last night]Feb 21 09:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter Suspends Four Accounts Critical of Sarkozy: Is This What He Meant By 'Civilizing' The Net? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 65.18 KBFeb 21 09:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Emerging Asia Demand for Gold http://ur1.ca/8a791 West unhinged from gold. http://goo.gl/Xx38H #debtFeb 21 09:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ghostler/@ghostler] Re http://ur1.ca/8a6u8 this is good news that pre-installed #Ubuntu computers are available now, it means demand is on the rise despite FUD.Feb 21 09:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Emerging Asia Demand for Gold | Gregor.us .::. Size~: 16.33 KBFeb 21 09:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why Toxic Debt Looks a Lot Less Toxic - Businessweek .::. Size~: 66.09 KBFeb 21 09:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Top 5 Ubuntu pre-installed Laptop companies | Unixmen .::. Size~: 422.89 KBFeb 21 09:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Gnome Control Center http://ur1.ca/8a7ay #gnome #gnu #linuxFeb 21 09:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu Command Center: Gnome Control Center | Muktware .::. Size~: 37.28 KBFeb 21 09:25
schestowitz http://identi.ca/notice/90921026Feb 21 09:26
TechrightsBot-tr@George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Feb-12 09:23:54 UTC - Identi.ca: Re http://ur1.ca/8a6u8 this is good news that pre-installed #Ubuntu computers are available now, it means demand is on the rise despite FUD.Feb 21 09:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Attacks paid for by big business are 'driving science into a dark era' - http://bit.ly/Ax6OEJ insane; clearly time for militant scienceFeb 21 09:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Attacks paid for by big business are 'driving science into a dark era' | Science | The Observer .::. Size~: 282.54 KBFeb 21 09:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Spanish Supreme Court to Review #Sinde Law - http://ur1.ca/8a7cg test #spainFeb 21 09:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ghostler/@ghostler] Re http://ur1.ca/89ypc - I downscoped to #Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, I did not like Unity GUI; sounds like it may be worth it to try out #Linux #MintFeb 21 09:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What does Ubuntu want to be when it grows up? | ZDNet .::. Size~: 148.55 KBFeb 21 09:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ISPs kept in dark about UK's plans to intercept Twitter - http://bit.ly/xay3XA #transparency? what's that? #surveillanceFeb 21 09:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ISPs kept in dark about UK's plans to intercept Twitter | Security Threats | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 65.04 KBFeb 21 09:33
oiaohmHmm did glynmoody miss the LCA key note on this.Feb 21 09:34
oiaohmThat most of the internet and phone systems is already bugged.Feb 21 09:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] on the economics of Spark http://ur1.ca/8a7jz #tablet #kde #gnu #linuxFeb 21 09:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: aseigo: on the economics of Spark .::. Size~: 97.34 KBFeb 21 09:36
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/90921316Feb 21 09:40
TechrightsBot-tr@George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Feb-12 09:32:43 UTC - Identi.ca: Re http://ur1.ca/89ypc - I downscoped to #Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, I did not like Unity GUI; sounds like it may be worth it to try out #Linux #MintFeb 21 09:40
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: What does Ubuntu want to be when it grows up? | ZDNet .::. Size~: 149.14 KBFeb 21 09:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] “Green Week”: Ask MEPs to Reject ACTA Back in Their Home Districts! http://goo.gl/AFY6P #actaFeb 21 09:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] [correct link] Spanish Supreme Court to Review #Sinde Law - http://bit.ly/yoHhGa important test #spainFeb 21 09:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: “Green Week”: Ask MEPs to Reject ACTA Back in Their Home Districts! | La Quadrature du Net .::. Size~: 27.64 KBFeb 21 09:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Spanish Supreme Court to Review Sinde Law .::. Size~: 31.9 KBFeb 21 09:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Vulture Capitalism Gets a Makeover http://ur1.ca/8a7oq #financeFeb 21 09:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Vulture Capitalism Gets a Makeover | Center for Media and Democracy .::. Size~: 50.9 KBFeb 21 09:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA is part of a multi-decade, worldwide copyright campaign - http://bit.y/wxjJZy good summary of the situation #TPPFeb 21 09:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Digital #censorship – Italian judges close down disaster information site - http://bit.ly/Aku6CO all'italiana #itFeb 21 09:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Digital censorship – Italian judges close down disaster information site | Fulog | Fulvio Sarzana's Blog .::. Size~: 49.08 KBFeb 21 09:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Huawei Honor (U8860) Review http://ur1.ca/8a7sq #linuxFeb 21 09:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Huawei Honor (U8860) ReviewAndroidGuys .::. Size~: 46.81 KBFeb 21 09:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] From open source to sourcing openly http://ur1.ca/8a7voFeb 21 09:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: From open source to sourcing openly - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 45.17 KBFeb 21 09:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Starfarer, An Open World Space Combat and Role Playing Game for Linux http://goo.gl/KirBX #games #linuxFeb 21 09:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Verbraucherministerin Aigner kritisiert #ACTA - http://bit.ly/yfi8yl more disquiet in #deFeb 21 09:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Starfarer, An Open World Space Combat and Role Playing Game for Linux ~ Ubuntu Vibes .::. Size~: 197.48 KBFeb 21 09:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Verbraucherministerin Aigner kritisiert ACTA | heise open .::. Size~: 76.29 KBFeb 21 09:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A citizen of the network - http://bit.ly/zjIIdm “what are the civic responsibilities of a network citizen?” long but importantFeb 21 10:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Science in the Open  » Blog Archive   » A citizen of the network .::. Size~: 51.52 KBFeb 21 10:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Shanghai Ground Cracking Under the Weight of Its Skyscrapers - http://bit.ly/xGu8Vp er, not good, if confirmed #china #archietctureFeb 21 10:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LibrePlanet 2012 registration opens http://ur1.ca/8a85e #fsfFeb 21 10:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Shanghai Ground Cracking Under the Weight of Its Skyscrapers – chinaSMACK .::. Size~: 188.34 KBFeb 21 10:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LibrePlanet 2012 registration opens | Linux User .::. Size~: 42.64 KBFeb 21 10:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Oh look, today's date is a palindrome! 21022012 !emordnilap a si etad s'yadot ,kool hOFeb 21 10:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] loving the book style theme to @fabsh blog http://goo.gl/8FsQm very simple yet stylish props #ThemeFoundryFeb 21 10:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] having said that, for a long article the two columns is annoyingFeb 21 10:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Controversial columns | Dehype .::. Size~: 20.8 KBFeb 21 10:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Cinnamon 1.3 released http://ur1.ca/89f4f #linuxmintFeb 21 10:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] "Η Ελλάδα δεσμεύτηκε ακόμα να υιοθετήσει... νομοθετική ρύθμιση που θα δίνει ταμειακή προτεραιότητα στην αποπληρωμή του χρέους της."Feb 21 10:15
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cinnamon 1.3 released : Cinnamon .::. Size~: 287.05 KBFeb 21 10:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I've been looking for a book themed template for #wordpress or#drupal for ages for something, never seen anything as close as thisFeb 21 10:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: @fumono sorry, diary busy. But great initiative - best of luck! http://p.ost.im/p/exYyHeFeb 21 10:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: UK Minister for Europe @DLidington on need for a #digitalsinglemarket http://t.co/yT1Otc http://p.ost.im/p/exJQ2xFeb 21 10:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Croatian government not considering acceding to #ACTA - http://bit.ly/wfLYV1 doesn't make much difference, but useful #hrFeb 21 10:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Croatian government not considering acceding to ACTA :: EMG :: SEE news .::. Size~: 34.07 KBFeb 21 10:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] "αν οι εκλογες αλλαζαν κατι θα ηταν παρανομες" φωναζε καποτε ενας τοίχος...αλλά τα ντουβάρια δεν άκουγανFeb 21 10:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Using Linux Installer again on my WM8650 #Android Tablet. Ubuntu Installer provided too less control for my linkings #Debian #gnu #linuxFeb 21 10:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] [croatian story v @StopActaNow]Feb 21 10:31
schestowitzEarlier today I came across and cited an article from my favourite writer from the Philippines, Chin Wong Feb 21 10:44
schestowitzhttp://www.manilastandardtoday.com/insideBusinessop_mstd.htm?f=//2012/february/21/chinwong.isx&n=opinion&d=/2012/february/21Feb 21 10:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A better Office  | Manila Standard Today .::. Size~: 27.87 KBFeb 21 10:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] IM IN UR SEJM DISCUSSING ABOUT ACTA ;)Feb 21 10:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] resistance is not futileFeb 21 10:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #JBoss Enterprise Application Platform Achieves Highest-Level Security Certification http://goo.gl/I9ZWv #redhatFeb 21 11:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: openPR.com - Press release - Red Hat Inc. - JBoss Enterprise Application Platform Achieves Highest-Level Security Certification .::. Size~: 58.47 KBFeb 21 11:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Victim of street-crime in London? There’s a map for that. - http://tnw.co/z3V56z but The Met don't approve...Feb 21 11:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: StreetViolence.org Lets You Report London Street Crime .::. Size~: 96.96 KBFeb 21 11:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Some things you may have heard about Secure Boot which aren't entirely true http://ur1.ca/84v43 #linuxFeb 21 11:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: mjg59 | Some things you may have heard about Secure Boot which aren't entirely true .::. Size~: 69.43 KBFeb 21 11:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #MythTV Is Now Forked As Torc http://ur1.ca/8a9gw #linuxFeb 21 11:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] MythTV Is Now Forked As Torc .::. Size~: 16.84 KBFeb 21 11:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "It will be great to know if llvm is ready to do same for several important linux package." http://goo.gl/lG2W6 #gcc #llvm #fedoraFeb 21 11:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple will use LLVM .::. Size~: 2.38 KBFeb 21 11:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] RT @nizarus Very nice : !Ubuntu MINI Computer Concept Design http://ur1.ca/8a97zFeb 21 11:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu MINI Computer Concept Design by ~lucasromerodb on deviantART .::. Size~: 95.7 KBFeb 21 11:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Twitter Suspends Four Accounts Critical of Sarkozy: Is This What He Meant By 'Civilizing' The Net? http://goo.gl/NoCnp #censorshipFeb 21 11:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter Suspends Four Accounts Critical of Sarkozy: Is This What He Meant By 'Civilizing' The Net? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 65.18 KBFeb 21 11:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #FBI Saves Us From Another Of Its Own Terrorist Plots http://goo.gl/JsEuC #thoughtcrime #orwellFeb 21 11:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FBI Saves Us From Another Of Its Own Terrorist Plots | Techdirt .::. Size~: 97.72 KBFeb 21 11:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] And you thought ACTA/SOPA/PIPA were worse? How about "Reading even a partial list of proposals that could be codified ... http://b1t.it/aThmFeb 21 11:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - And you thought ACTA/SOPA/PIPA were worse? How about … .::. Size~: 54.37 KBFeb 21 11:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ACTA is a Bad Way to Develop Internet Policy http://ur1.ca/83jelFeb 21 11:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ACTA is a Bad Way to Develop Internet Policy  | Mitchell's Blog .::. Size~: 37.34 KBFeb 21 11:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Trend Micro makes HijackThis open source http://ur1.ca/8a9x1 #TrendMicro = #swpats bullyFeb 21 11:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Trend Micro makes HijackThis open source .::. Size~: 34.86 KBFeb 21 11:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open-source software adoption on the rise, report shows http://goo.gl/08pxq #opensource #softwareFeb 21 11:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open-source software adoption on the rise, report shows  - Business News |nation.co.ke .::. Size~: 44.64 KBFeb 21 11:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open Source May be the Answer for Pharma and Biotech http://goo.gl/UKxmd #sharingFeb 21 11:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Source May be the Answer for Pharma and Biotech | Xconomy .::. Size~: 41.93 KBFeb 21 11:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] UK govt calls for open standards http://goo.gl/mQ3i0 #uk #egovFeb 21 11:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] RT @kanarip New post: Sneak Preview of the Kolab Web Administration Panel http://ur1.ca/8a9t5Feb 21 11:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sneak Preview of the Kolab Web Administration Panel | Planet Ergo .::. Size~: 16.76 KBFeb 21 11:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Auraslate Is An Open Source Android Tablet For Hackers http://goo.gl/Qi357 #linuxFeb 21 11:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Auraslate Is An Open Source Android Tablet For Hackers | TechCrunch .::. Size~: 54.96 KBFeb 21 11:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @BartRosseau: All Belgian #opendata lovers: check this out: http://t.co/yfMHZKKu #okfnbeFeb 21 11:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: http://t.co/wpUvdJVO - @ElGoorf blogs about the army, web development... and iRail. #respectFeb 21 11:56
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schestowitzwhat a silly press release http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/2/prweb9192025.htmFeb 21 11:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: No Love? Open Source and the Enterprise, a Rocky Relationship .::. Size~: 27.06 KBFeb 21 11:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Vic #Toews Apparently Not A Fan Of Others Seeing His Personal Data - http://bit.ly/wCSELn this man is a jokeFeb 21 11:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Vic Toews Apparently Not A Fan Of Others Seeing His Personal Data | Techdirt .::. Size~: 38.74 KBFeb 21 11:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] ρε επεσε το @omniatv??Feb 21 12:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] οι φήμες οτι ο @cocobilly χακαρε κι εριξε το @omniatv για να κλέψει ακροατές ελέγχονται ως ανακριβείςFeb 21 12:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] εγω βλεπω αυτό @omniatv http://identi.ca/url/66951296Feb 21 12:26
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/171922355931717633?iid=am-203724525013298244586810264&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Feb 21 12:49
TechrightsBot-tr@zoobab: @schestowitz With or without FRAND?Feb 21 12:49
schestowitzzoobab: with MicrosoftFeb 21 12:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/171924062791143425?iid=am-99344911113298248656462701&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Feb 21 12:50
TechrightsBot-tr@Metztli_IT: ♺ @schestowitz #FBI Saves Us From Another Of Its Own Terrorist Plots http://t.co/lZu4Bo7p #thoughtcrime #orwell ☝& the sheep sigh w/relief😁Feb 21 12:50
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ThistleWeb/status/171920628281126912?iid=am-212786989413298240469042856&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Feb 21 12:50
TechrightsBot-tr@ThistleWeb: @schestowitz must be missing something, this story seems positive, not negativeFeb 21 12:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @dietervds Op site van Acerta staan er veel clausules die alleen gelden als je gehuwd bent. Ik heb ze n http://ur1. ...Feb 21 12:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Blender 2.62 is out http://ur1.ca/87k28 #blender3dFeb 21 12:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Good! Let me know what you need.Feb 21 13:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Monsanto's Bt #GMO corn to be sold at Wal-Mart with no indication it is genetically modified http://goo.gl/kry7EFeb 21 13:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Monsanto's Bt GMO corn to be sold at Wal-Mart with no indication it is genetically modified .::. Size~: 70.55 KBFeb 21 13:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] How Big Pharma Undermined Medical Innovation for Financial Gain - Forbes http://goo.gl/a2QuW #bigpharmaFeb 21 13:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How Big Pharma Undermined Medical Innovation for Financial Gain - Forbes .::. Size~: 129.74 KBFeb 21 13:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] we're closing pre-orders for !Spark devices this afternoon. it's been a great success, thanks to everyone who has participated thus far!Feb 21 13:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] cryptogon.com » Iranian State Media PressTV Claims Jamming in Europe and Online http://goo.gl/Q6fqz #iran #msm #dirtytricks #hypocritesFeb 21 13:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: cryptogon.com    » Iranian State Media PressTV Claims Jamming in Europe and Online .::. Size~: 10.75 KBFeb 21 13:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] if you haven't gotten your order in yet .. you have just a couple more hours to do so on http://makeplaylive.comFeb 21 13:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] 'ειμαστε ολοι ελληνες' αλλα θα θελαμε να ειμαστε ισλανδοιFeb 21 13:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] HijackThis Becomes Open Source, LibrePlanet 2012 is Coming http://ur1.ca/8acg2 #techrightsFeb 21 13:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Make Play Live: Spark Pre-Order Registration .::. Size~: 32.46 KBFeb 21 13:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 21/2/2012: HijackThis Becomes Open Source, LibrePlanet 2012 is Coming | Techrights .::. Size~: 137.58 KBFeb 21 13:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] it's looking REALLY nice! after the web admin is done, dare i dream for a QtQuick one? :)Feb 21 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Icelandic Anger Brings #Debt Forgiveness in Best Recovery Story - Bloomberg http://goo.gl/CQ2Vq #icelandFeb 21 13:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] i will be at CeBIT from the 7th-9th .. i'll be toting a Spark device and volunteering in the KDE booth with my community hat on :)Feb 21 13:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Icelandic Anger Brings Debt Forgiveness in Best Recovery Story - Bloomberg .::. Size~: 163.6 KBFeb 21 13:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Does a ladyboy grow into a ladies man, with plurality being a part of puberty?Feb 21 13:30
*abeNd-org has quit (Quit: Leaving.)Feb 21 13:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Social messaging apps 'lost networks $13.9bn in 2011' http://goo.gl/Gv2TP same "lost sales" bogus numbers - it's DATA users pay forFeb 21 13:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] Well, I care, although I agree it would be nice if we had the gratis/libre distinction as our common English idiom.Feb 21 13:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ROTFL http://ur1.ca/8acpqFeb 21 13:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Social messaging apps 'lost networks $13.9bn in 2011' .::. Size~: 66.23 KBFeb 21 13:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Stefan Keuchel - Google+ - :-) .::. Size~: 54 KBFeb 21 13:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] just like the copyright mafia, looking to bump up charges, ban apps etc to ensure their customers lose outFeb 21 13:36
schestowitzpreparing 15-page report for the ERC, back later when I'm done publishing final copyFeb 21 13:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Anonymous Cowards, Deanonymized http://goo.gl/hJfvEFeb 21 13:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Billionaire #Romney donor uses threats to silence critics http://goo.gl/M2Mt0 #GOP #GoldenRuleFeb 21 13:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] "Schaar hält hierzu die Vorlage des Quellcodes" http://ur1.ca/8acz3Feb 21 13:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Billionaire Romney donor uses threats to silence critics -   Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com .::. Size~: 194.58 KBFeb 21 13:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Internet-Law » Bundesdatenschutzbeauftragter kritisiert Bundestrojaner deutlich .::. Size~: 49.47 KBFeb 21 13:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Video: about the upcoming #Fedora Remix for Raspberry Pi | #RaspberryPi http://goo.gl/r8MMZ #floss #hardwareFeb 21 13:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Video: about the upcoming Fedora Remix for Raspberry Pi  | Raspberry Pi .::. Size~: 141.79 KBFeb 21 13:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #India to pay #gold instead of dollars for Iranian oil. Oil and gold markets stunned http://goo.gl/ykkoh #bankingsystem #iran (jan23)Feb 21 13:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DEBKAfile, Political Analysis, Espionage, Terrorism, Security .::. Size~: 24.75 KBFeb 21 13:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] New Cold Steel Clip Point Voyager: Outstanding General Purpose Knife - YouTube http://goo.gl/JZ9mu #edc #preppersFeb 21 14:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Booktype makes book collaboration web-based and simple | http://red.ht/yfe8Pp #publishing #flossFeb 21 14:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] American Statism and the Holocaust by Jacob G. Hornberger http://goo.gl/RE9FK + Locking Out the Immigrant http://goo.gl/6Cm06 #usa #historyFeb 21 14:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] RT @elkos: Το malwr είναι μια υπηρεσία ανάλυσης αρχείων που βασίζεται στο ανοι http://ur1.ca/8acqxFeb 21 14:20
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schestowitzshow this to madame harmonFeb 21 14:27
MinceR:>Feb 21 14:27
schestowitzshe follows PatFeb 21 14:28
schestowitz!google hitchens jerry enema buried in a matchboxFeb 21 14:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Met @tuinslak op weg naar een meeting met NMBS Holding en GoMobileFeb 21 14:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #EDC - A Woman's Every Day Carry - YouTube http://goo.gl/YWgDi #preppersFeb 21 14:35
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DaemonFCschestowitz: Apple is tossing around changes to CUPS to make it harder to use outside of OS XFeb 21 14:48
DaemonFChave you mentioned that?Feb 21 14:48
fewtAre they though?  I thought they just pushed some of the functions they don't use downstreamFeb 21 14:49
fewtWhich would make sense to me, as it wouldn't be well supported in mainline CUPS.Feb 21 14:50
MinceRif so, time to forkFeb 21 14:51
DaemonFCwell, there's already a problem when your printing system is controlled by a proprietary software company that doesn't care how it works for anyone elseFeb 21 14:57
DaemonFCif all you can do is keep moving huge pieces of it "downstream", eventually you have another Go-OO messFeb 21 14:57
DaemonFCand you might as well fork it at some pointFeb 21 14:58
fewtIf they didn't care the source wouldn't be available IMHO.Feb 21 14:58
DaemonFCfree laborFeb 21 14:59
DaemonFCthey want handoutsFeb 21 14:59
DaemonFCbut they only really want to encourage them for pieces of the software that they want in OS XFeb 21 14:59
DaemonFChttp://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2012/02/the-costs-of-supporting-legacy-hardware/Feb 21 15:00
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DaemonFCkwin may be dropping Catalyst supportFeb 21 15:00
DaemonFCunderstandable Feb 21 15:00
fewtYou have a good point, but I dunno if it's as bad as it sounds.Feb 21 15:02
DaemonFCfork it and wrap it in the GPLFeb 21 15:05
DaemonFCApple might notice when half their developers are gone because they can no longer sponge off the patches from Linux distributionsFeb 21 15:06
MinceR:>Feb 21 15:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Alan Watts says "Forget the money" http://ur1.ca/8af8r #youtubeFeb 21 15:08
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DaemonFC"Another real issue for removing is that the proprietary ATI driver (aka Catalyst/fglrx) only provides a decent compositing performance with indirect rendering restricting the available API to OpenGL 1.x. So removing OpenGL 1.x support would mean removing OpenGL compositing support for all fglrx powered systems even if the GPU supports OpenGL 4. But to be honest: given that the radeon driver has no problems with OpenGL 2 on the same hardware, I Feb 21 15:10
DaemonFCwould not mind removing support for proprietary drivers."Feb 21 15:10
DaemonFCsomeone should cite that when people say AMD is improving their blobFeb 21 15:10
DaemonFCthey're notFeb 21 15:10
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 15:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Wow, this is the age of Wintermute; here come the lo-teksFeb 21 15:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @tonybaldwin Hackers to launch satellites to block censorship http://tonyb.us/9kFeb 21 15:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @trashheap Apple trying to phase out GNU/Linux features in the Common Unix Printing System : http://2tu.us/4b9rFeb 21 15:11
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DaemonFCXRender wouldn't even be necessary for kwin under Wayland if all you really wanted to do with it was transparency effectsFeb 21 15:13
fewtDaemonFC: I have no issue with proprietary blobs.  It's a freedom companies have to create, just as we have the freedom to not use them. :DFeb 21 15:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] να θυμαστε οτι η κριτική σας μπορει να κανει την εφαρμογή καλύτερη,δεν θα παρεξηγηθώ αν κατι δεν σας αρέσει.αλήθεια! #rbandroid @radiobubbleFeb 21 15:13
DaemonFCwhen they hide behind their blob as an excuse to not document their GPUs, like Nvidia doesFeb 21 15:13
DaemonFCit means we should not buy new Nvidia GPUs the next time we go shoppingFeb 21 15:14
DaemonFCthe fact that Nvidia's blob doesn't have the kind of performance problems as Catalyst is beside the pointFeb 21 15:14
fewtI stick to Intel GPUsFeb 21 15:14
DaemonFCit still taints your kernelFeb 21 15:14
DaemonFCit still introduces bugs that nobody but Nvidia can fixFeb 21 15:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @vanden @jla After years using emacs, I've been reading through the manual from top to bottom a bit each day. Painful, but rewarding. ...Feb 21 15:15
DaemonFCit could effectively backdoor your system with security problems that they take years to fix (this has happened with Nvidia before, but whether it was intentional is not possible to prove)Feb 21 15:15
fewtThe whole "taints the kernel" thing is a bunch of crapFeb 21 15:15
fewtimhoFeb 21 15:15
DaemonFCand they can declare your hardware permanently obsolete just by not releasing a new blob for your cardFeb 21 15:16
DaemonFCjust because they haven't done it YET doesn't mean that management couldn't change their minds about it laterFeb 21 15:16
DaemonFCAMD has already done thisFeb 21 15:16
fewtI think that's a problem with the GPL, you should be able to hook anything you want to it, or it isn't really free.Feb 21 15:16
fewtjust kind-of free :)Feb 21 15:16
DaemonFCbefore they even bothered to document the cards that they declared unsupported by the blobFeb 21 15:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] The manual continues to surprise me after many years of !emacs useFeb 21 15:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] "China arrests Tibetan writer, reports say | World news | guardian.co.uk" http://ur1.ca/8afei Feb 21 15:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @rms China http://ur1.ca/8aaapFeb 21 15:16
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DaemonFCand then there's the problem that both blobs are heavily dependent upon XFeb 21 15:16
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fewtKeep in mind, I don't dislike the GPL.Feb 21 15:16
DaemonFCso people that insist on using them will always have to use XFeb 21 15:16
fewt:DFeb 21 15:17
DaemonFCfewt: The direct rendering manager, GEM, TTM, DRI 2 code is not under a GPL variant Feb 21 15:17
DaemonFCit's under MIT and BSD style licenses and the BSDs simply don't have enough manpower to bring it up and make it work right on their systemsFeb 21 15:17
fewtoicFeb 21 15:18
DaemonFCso they just spread anti-Linux FUD instead without stopping to consider the problems that the Linux side is trying to solveFeb 21 15:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @eebrah RD: @meanmicio: GNU Health incorporates the latest WHO list of essential medicines, plus their pregnancy risk category !gnu ! ...Feb 21 15:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @meanmicio GNU Health incorporates the latest WHO list of essential medicines, plus their pregnancy risk category #gnuhealth !gnu !fs ...Feb 21 15:18
DaemonFCthere's no license problems preventing all this new stuff from working on a BSD under their preferred licensesFeb 21 15:18
DaemonFCthe problem is that they don't have the manpower to properly port hundreds of thousands of lines of code and get them working reliably across hundreds of graphics processorsFeb 21 15:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] μουσικάρες ρε φίλε αυτός ο @mpodil @radiobubbleFeb 21 15:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #HowGeeksStayHealthy :-) http://ur1.ca/8afhiFeb 21 15:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] "Death by denial: The campaigners who continue to deny HIV causes Aids | Brian Deer | Science | guardian.co.uk" http://ur1.ca/8afhp Feb 21 15:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] "Heartland Institute leak exposes strategies of climate attack machine | Bob Ward | Environment | guardian.co.uk" http://ur1.ca/8afi7 Feb 21 15:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Theodore Ts'o - Google+ - Take a 1/4 cup uncooked sushi rice (or other short-grained… .::. Size~: 50.67 KBFeb 21 15:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Death by denial: The campaigners who continue to deny HIV causes Aids | Brian Deer | Science | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 194.69 KBFeb 21 15:20
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DaemonFCthey would have been content with using X11 forever Feb 21 15:20
DaemonFCjust because it wouldn't require any work from themFeb 21 15:20
fewtI'm content with using Xorg foreverFeb 21 15:20
fewtI have no interest in WaylandFeb 21 15:20
fewtXorg does it's job and does it really wellFeb 21 15:20
DaemonFCwe shouldn't let legacy software impede the progress of LinuxFeb 21 15:20
fewts/\'//Feb 21 15:20
DaemonFCif the FreeBSD people can't keep up, that's their own problemFeb 21 15:20
DaemonFCfewt: Arguing for FreeBSD is like arguing that if a fat person can't run a marathon, then it's the responsibility of the other runners to go back, pick him up, and carry himFeb 21 15:21
DaemonFCit's notFeb 21 15:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] "Evolution Ottawa - 1st Joint Congress on Evolutionary Biology" http://ur1.ca/8afij Feb 21 15:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] "Would you eat lab-grown meat? | Poll | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk" http://ur1.ca/8afit Feb 21 15:21
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Formic_i think its a different set of prioritiesFeb 21 15:22
fewtDaemonFC: I'm just not sure I agree that sacrificing the freedom of one to increase the freedom of another is OK.Feb 21 15:22
Formic_they used to be behind zfs dev, now they have the latestFeb 21 15:22
DaemonFCfewt: As the Libertarians are fond of sayingFeb 21 15:22
DaemonFCfreedom includes the freedom to failFeb 21 15:22
Formic_they also have good llvm supportFeb 21 15:22
fewtfreedom doesn't come with a set of restrictionsFeb 21 15:22
fewtimhoFeb 21 15:22
Formic_fewt - i agreeFeb 21 15:23
MinceRyour freedom to swing your fist ends where my nose begins. :>Feb 21 15:23
DaemonFCfewt: FreeBSD is like the TARP programFeb 21 15:23
schestowitzfreedom is a broad termFeb 21 15:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] But can it identify uncaring parents? http://ur1.ca/8afkkFeb 21 15:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] "Open hospital windows to stem spread of infections, says microbiologist | Science | The Guardian" http://ur1.ca/8afl1 Feb 21 15:23
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schestowitzwith total freedom you can make it inclusive of anarchyFeb 21 15:23
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schestowitzand then freedoms of people collideFeb 21 15:23
MinceRoh noes, anarchy!Feb 21 15:23
DaemonFCthe big banks claimed that they should be totally unregulated until their own greed brought them downFeb 21 15:23
DaemonFCand then it was up to taxpayers to go back and save themFeb 21 15:23
schestowitzlike the freedom to take code and prevent it from being sharedFeb 21 15:23
MinceRpeople who are scared of anarchy don't know what it is. :>Feb 21 15:23
schestowitzdepends which typeFeb 21 15:24
DaemonFCin a free market, FreeBSD can fail and it's not the responsibility of Linux developers to save itFeb 21 15:24
schestowitzlet me look up the list...Feb 21 15:24
fewtIn a free market though, Linux can also fail and it's not the responsibility of FreeBSD developers to save it. :)Feb 21 15:24
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism#Anarchist_schools_of_thoughtFeb 21 15:24
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DaemonFCFreeBSD wants maximum freedom, they have the freedom to do anything including becoming uncompetitive Feb 21 15:24
fewtnot that it would be my preferenceFeb 21 15:24
DaemonFCand going underFeb 21 15:24
Formic_I think its like freedom of speechFeb 21 15:25
schestowitzTo give just one example: "Social anarchism calls for a system with public ownership of means of production and democratic control of all organizations, without any government authority or coercion. It is the largest school of thought in anarchism.[178] Social anarchism rejects private property, seeing it as a source of social inequality, and emphasises cooperation and mutual aid.[179]"Feb 21 15:25
MinceRfreebsd fights for the freedom of m$ and crApple to destroy them :>Feb 21 15:25
DaemonFCthere's very little intentional help that the BSDs have given to LinuxFeb 21 15:26
schestowitzmicrosoft has the freedom to do thatFeb 21 15:26
DaemonFCmost of it has just been code that was under a permissive license that happened to be reusableFeb 21 15:26
Formic_you might not like what I have to say but I can say itFeb 21 15:26
MinceRschestowitz: i thought that was called anarcho-communismFeb 21 15:26
MinceRand not really anarchismFeb 21 15:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @jpope: Apache releases first major new version of popular Web server in six years http://b1t.it/aTmOFeb 21 15:26
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DaemonFCa free market includes the freedom to failFeb 21 15:27
fewtI'm all for balancing it out.  There is plenty of room for BSD, GPL, and closed source licenses.Feb 21 15:27
fewt:)Feb 21 15:27
DaemonFCand no obligation for unrelated parties to save you if they don't find your product worth savingFeb 21 15:27
DaemonFCit's this concept of fairness and too big to fail that has the US economy in the mess it's inFeb 21 15:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Man convicted in conspiracy case also accused of hacking computer for #NoW http://gu.com/p/35tfcFeb 21 15:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Man convicted in conspiracy case also accused of hacking computer for NoW  | Technology | The Guardian .::. Size~: 113.96 KBFeb 21 15:28
DaemonFCwe have to go back and give the banksters a free rideFeb 21 15:28
fewtI don't care about too big to failFeb 21 15:28
DaemonFCwe have to go back and pick up and carry the idle poorFeb 21 15:28
DaemonFCand the people that want to sit around using drugs and reproducing all dayFeb 21 15:28
fewtbut I don't think we should sacrifice one persons freedom for anothersFeb 21 15:28
fewtI guess it's just the libertarian in me. :)Feb 21 15:28
DaemonFCit's starting to cause the productive elements of society to fail as wellFeb 21 15:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] WRT MSFT caliming about Google invading users privacy - I call BS on that. Here is the correct headline:"Noone support... http://b1t.it/aTm5Feb 21 15:30
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DaemonFCthere comes a point in time where you're so encumbered by taxes that it doesn't matter what you're making per hour, so much of it goes to give outs for people that don't work or don't produce desirable products that you can no longer get by yourselfFeb 21 15:30
DaemonFCif you look at what's going on in the US now, wages are declining and taxes on the worker are about to be hiked while the rich continue to use their own loopholesFeb 21 15:31
DaemonFCthey just pile the burden onto the middle class and increasingly the working poorFeb 21 15:31
DaemonFCpile it on, pile it onFeb 21 15:31
Formic_if someone wants to shoot themselves in the foot and make a proprietary fork, they are the ones sufferingFeb 21 15:31
DaemonFCthe government's tax policies are creating poverty where it never existed beforeFeb 21 15:31
fewtI guess it depends on the industry, I am doing better than ever.Feb 21 15:32
fewtI get paid to Linux though. :)Feb 21 15:32
DaemonFCwell, you'd be surprised how a lot of companies take and never give anything back even if it wouldn't hurt them toFeb 21 15:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] welcome to 2012, we have multimedia content on rich websites paid by partnerships & adverts http://goo.gl/J4DlP all require page loadingFeb 21 15:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I am curious how many pieces of individual data make up this #Guardian page, since he's called out other comparable sites like the #BBCFeb 21 15:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Graphic designers are ruining the web | Technology | The Observer .::. Size~: 266.78 KBFeb 21 15:33
DaemonFCthe BSD license is responsible for part of the mess they're in over thereFeb 21 15:33
DaemonFCit encourages hundreds of companies to take what they can and walk off with it where the GPL would have forced them to grow the projectFeb 21 15:34
fewtDaemonFC: I wouldn't be that surprised, it is the nature of business.Feb 21 15:34
fewtSome are more responsible than others.Feb 21 15:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] \o/ for #Opera, only 160 on that page, more than the #BBC & ITV, the only bigger call out is the #DailyMailFeb 21 15:35
DaemonFCcorporate responsibility is like saying pink unicornFeb 21 15:36
fewtI wouldn't blame the BSD license, because the people that target that license don't have a problem with anyone walking off with the code by design.Feb 21 15:37
DaemonFCboth would be fascinating if they actually existedFeb 21 15:37
fewtWell, RedHat is responsible..Feb 21 15:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Apple style solution for #JohnNaughton "YOU'RE USING THE WRONG BROWSER!" http://goo.gl/gGxoB try #Dillo or #LynxFeb 21 15:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] at the very least stop using #IE, try a script & ad blocker with a proper browser & notice a world of difference #JohnNaughtonFeb 21 15:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Last Call: Timing control for script-based animations http://ow.ly/1hxobsFeb 21 15:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] How to Make Your Presentations Accessible to All is updated http://ow.ly/1hxobrFeb 21 15:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !tzag Afternoon !IdentiverseFeb 21 15:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA Update VII - http://bit.ly/zisgUI heard of the European Commission's "Consultation Standards"? neither have they #transparencyFeb 21 15:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !tzag and good morning !identiverseFeb 21 15:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why Economies Of Scale Don’t Matter In The #Media - http://bit.ly/xoTlrr yupFeb 21 15:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !Listening to a #CD again that I got with a #magazine that I bought in the local #WHSmith on Friday, and I think it's awesome :)!Feb 21 15:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why Economies Of Scale Don't Matter In The Media Anymore | TechFruit .::. Size~: 39.09 KBFeb 21 15:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Last week The Globe was pro #C30 http://www.ur1.ca/8ag1e this week they seems to have actually *read* it http://www.ur1.ca/8ag5c !CDNpoliFeb 21 15:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: It’s child porn – we need Bill C-30 - The Globe and Mail .::. Size~: 98.83 KBFeb 21 15:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good afternoon @sebsebsebFeb 21 15:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @thistleweb welcome to 2012, we have multimedia content on rich websites paid by partnerships & adverts http://goo.gl/J4DlP all requi ...Feb 21 15:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Urban Every Day Carry Bag ( #EDC) - YouTube http://goo.gl/xRrvBFeb 21 15:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] WRT MSFT claiming about Google invading users privacy - I call BS on that. Here is the correct headline:"Almost noone ... http://b1t.it/aTm5Feb 21 15:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Graphic designers are ruining the web | Technology | The Observer .::. Size~: 266.78 KBFeb 21 15:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Urban Every Day Carry Bag (EDC)       - YouTube .::. Size~: 157.13 KBFeb 21 15:55
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Formic_microsoft is funnyFeb 21 15:55
Formic_"google is violating privacy of ie users"Feb 21 15:55
Formic_the kettle calls the pot blackFeb 21 15:55
Formic_*cough* search suggestions *cough cough*Feb 21 15:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !CyanogenMod 9 gets some bad-ass boot animation http://ping.fm/IHnFyFeb 21 16:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Waiting for the first Beowulf cluster of Raspberry Pi's #GoodOldMeme :-)Feb 21 16:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CyanogenMod 9 gets some bad-ass boot animation | Android Central .::. Size~: 76.2 KBFeb 21 16:00
sebsebsebWho's here?Feb 21 16:00
fewtnot I! hahFeb 21 16:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♻ @AnonyOps You know what's scary? A general who worries about Anonymous instead of finding ways to fix security http://www.ur1.ca/8agi5Feb 21 16:01
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MinceR163554 < fewt> I wouldn't blame the BSD license, because the people that target that license don't have a problem with anyone walking off with the Feb 21 16:03
MinceR               code by design.Feb 21 16:03
MinceRi remember at least one complaintFeb 21 16:03
fewtWindows FTP?Feb 21 16:03
fewtThat's the first one that comes to mind, except that it wasn't BSD people complaining. :)Feb 21 16:03
MinceROpenSSHFeb 21 16:04
fewtlink handy?Feb 21 16:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Some Arguments Against #ACTA - http://bit.ly/yxaL0r all great points, well madeFeb 21 16:05
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MinceRi'll seeFeb 21 16:05
fewtty, I'd like to read up on it.  I remember an openbsd openssh thing, but not the details around it.Feb 21 16:05
fewtDon't remember if it was a BSD license complaint or whatFeb 21 16:05
MinceRnopeFeb 21 16:05
MinceRi guess i wasn't saving bookmarks back thenFeb 21 16:05
MinceRit was something along the lines "everyone and their dog is putting OpenSSH into their products and giving nothing back"Feb 21 16:06
fewtohFeb 21 16:06
fewtI don't remember thatFeb 21 16:06
MinceRs/nes/& of/Feb 21 16:06
fewtbut I wouldn't be surprised.Feb 21 16:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] How to teach undergrads how to become open source contributors without writing any code by @sdziallas | http://red.ht/x6sRn2Feb 21 16:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Canadian Universities Agree To #Ridiculous #Copyright Agreement That Says Emailing Hyperlinks Is Equal To Photocopying http://goo.gl/7V4ndFeb 21 16:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Unique malware samples broke the 75 million mark in 2011 - http://bit.ly/zHCWyA love how this story leads with *android's* 400 cases...Feb 21 16:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Caso TVI leva a novas regras em Bruxelas - Expresso.pt http://goo.gl/1rCBt #eu #pseudodemocracyFeb 21 16:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @glynmoody: Unique malware samples broke the 75 million mark in 2011 - http://bit.ly/zHCWyA love how this story leads with *android's* 400Feb 21 16:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♻ @stephenlautens Bill #C30 like requiring your mailman to keep copies of your mail for a year "just in case" police want to look !CDNpoliFeb 21 16:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Porsche owner cements his place as world's daftest driver http://goo.gl/pddlD lolFeb 21 16:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♻ @MarietjeD66 “@AmsterdamUPress: 6825 and counting. The Cost of Knowledge http://www.ur1.ca/7nq6p #Eslevier #Boycott #RWA” !copyright #SOPAFeb 21 16:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Heartland leaker is scientist Peter Gleick, says documents are all real - http://bit.ly/yB7NCe makes sense (v @BoraZ) #climatechangeFeb 21 16:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Today is #Toewsday ⇒a week since Bill C-30 was tabled ⇒ it's our chance to #tellviceverything about #C30 http://www.ur1.ca/8agt6 !CDNpoliFeb 21 16:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The #Btrfs File-System Repair Tool Is Available http://ur1.ca/8aguu #linuxFeb 21 16:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Today is 'Toesday' - email Vic Toews to oppose Bill C-30 .::. Size~: 13.54 KBFeb 21 16:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Apache HTTP Server 2.4.1 released http://ur1.ca/8agvfFeb 21 16:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] I think that the !Mageia at #FOSDEM #2012 blog post http://ur1.ca/8aguh looks much better now with the photo as part of it as well! #MageiaFeb 21 16:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #kde Frameworks 5 community day http://ur1.ca/8agxk #linux #gnuFeb 21 16:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Poseł Gałażewski: "!ACTA jest passé" http://rys.io/pl/64 - ciekawy sposób argumentacji prawodawczej...Feb 21 16:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Shared a post "WRT MSFT claiming about Google invading users privacy - I call BS on that. Here is the correct headline... http://b1t.it/aToIFeb 21 16:35
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DaemonFCthis laser tank has some weird cases where it's pretty usefulFeb 21 16:37
DaemonFCI just beamed six of them in to fry a bunch of suicide bombersFeb 21 16:38
DaemonFCB-)Feb 21 16:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Android 5.0 May Lock Horns With Windows 8, Desktop Mode Rumored http://goo.gl/X0CyS #android #linuxFeb 21 16:38
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schestowitzDaemonFC: which games is this?Feb 21 16:38
schestowitzBuilt an FBI HQFeb 21 16:38
DaemonFCwar commanderFeb 21 16:38
schestowitzit spawns suicide bombersFeb 21 16:38
schestowitzand then it "catches" themFeb 21 16:39
Formic_what did you guys think of the FBI to UK Int leak by Anon?Feb 21 16:39
DaemonFCTerrorists: "ALALALALALALAAAAAA!!!!" *runs towards my laser tanks*Feb 21 16:39
schestowitzlalalalaFeb 21 16:39
DaemonFCLaser tanks: "Spinning up reactor* "Nyayayayayayayayaaa" *WHOOOOOOOSH!!!!*Feb 21 16:39
schestowitzLala AkbarFeb 21 16:39
DaemonFCTerrorists: "AHHHHHHHH!!!!" *splat!*Feb 21 16:39
MinceRAdmiral AkbarFeb 21 16:40
DaemonFCIt's a trap!Feb 21 16:40
DaemonFCB-)Feb 21 16:40
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dddAi8FF3F4Feb 21 16:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Get registered for @OpenCFSummit happening Feb 24-25, details are here: http://ow.ly/9ci7ZFeb 21 16:41
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schestowitzLAMOFeb 21 16:42
schestowitzhttp://osdir.com/Article11036.phtmlFeb 21 16:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google et al Bypassing IE Privacy :: OSDir.com :: Open Source, Linux News & Software .::. Size~: 25.28 KBFeb 21 16:42
schestowitz"IE privacy"Feb 21 16:42
schestowitzthe browser that SENDS TO MS A LIST OF ALL PAGES YOU VISITFeb 21 16:42
schestowitzPrivacy..Feb 21 16:42
schestowitzAt least i know that KDe don't do thisFeb 21 16:42
schestowitzMozilla has no interest in it, eitherFeb 21 16:42
schestowitzin IE, privacy means, private with MicrosoftFeb 21 16:43
DaemonFCIE also tells Microsoft everything you're downloadingFeb 21 16:43
schestowitzyour spouse ballmerFeb 21 16:43
DaemonFChttp://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1134253--ontario-says-tougher-rules-expected-for-drivers-with-dementiaFeb 21 16:43
DaemonFCFamous last words before the aging population of Canada votes him out of officeFeb 21 16:43
schestowitzhttp://www.ghacks.net/2012/02/18/chrome-connecting-to-random-domains-on-start-here-is-why/Feb 21 16:44
schestowitzLOLFeb 21 16:44
schestowitzjust to help youFeb 21 16:44
schestowitzand spreadrequests..Feb 21 16:44
schestowitzlike, if you use VPNFeb 21 16:44
schestowitzand the employer can see what you doFeb 21 16:44
Formic_DaemonFC - what if they can't drive to the voting placeFeb 21 16:44
Formic_lolFeb 21 16:44
schestowitzor if you pay for bandwidthFeb 21 16:44
DaemonFCIt's profiling is what it is. The state was taking licenses away from everyone that ran over a group of kids!Feb 21 16:44
schestowitzwhat utter idiocy in designFeb 21 16:44
DaemonFCB-)Feb 21 16:44
schestowitzDaemonFC: what does madame harmon vote for?Feb 21 16:45
DaemonFCok, that was borrowed from Ron WhiteFeb 21 16:45
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DaemonFC"They were pulling over EVERYONE that was driving down that sidewalk"Feb 21 16:45
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 16:45
Formic_My grandfather was in both world wars. He has the right to drive over kids.Feb 21 16:45
DaemonFCschestowitz: Whoever says they oppose big government and entitlement programsFeb 21 16:46
DaemonFCYes, she IS on Social Security and MedicareFeb 21 16:46
DaemonFCIRONYYYYYYY!!!!Feb 21 16:46
DaemonFCshe thinks that they mean those wasteful government entitlement programs that she isn't onFeb 21 16:47
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 16:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @SansSouciCrea ;) Wij zijn net vertrokken. Jij ook altijd welkom op ons kantoor bij station St Agatha BerchemFeb 21 16:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @SansSouciCrea Heb je whiskey?Feb 21 16:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @ywein Of de televisieprogrammaprogrammatie onder 2e dbwet vallenFeb 21 16:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: All noses pointed to the right direction. Extremely good meeting with #NMBS #SNCBFeb 21 16:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Chrome Connecting To Random Domains On Start? Here Is Why! http://goo.gl/ZstCa antifeaturesFeb 21 16:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @BartRosseau: Eerste visualisatie gentse #opendata: http://t.co/MrqfloWJ by @hermansm #appsforghentFeb 21 16:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Same Time, Same Place - Greek Labor Unions Waste No Time In Scheduling Tomorrow's Athens Protest | ZeroHedge http://goo.gl/TUnMk #COLLAPSEFeb 21 16:50
schestowitz"I have been working on preventing kill -9 on postgres boxes. I found it interesting. We all know not to do it anyway, but FU want a more technical solution as well. We're playing with disabling the built-in BASH function and replacing /bin/kill with a script that passes parameters to the old /bin/kill unless it's a kill -9 in which case it emails somebody to say someone's been naughty. This isn't necessarily useful information, just Feb 21 16:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Same Time, Same Place - Greek Labor Unions Waste No Time In Scheduling Tomorrow's Athens Protest | ZeroHedge .::. Size~: 139.75 KBFeb 21 16:50
schestowitzthought you might find it interesting. "Feb 21 16:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Troika: “permanent presence on the ground in #Greece” | ZeroHedge http://goo.gl/3V8zI #collapse #tptb #dictatorshipFeb 21 16:53
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Formic_my favorite book right is now is 'ghost in the wires'Feb 21 16:54
DaemonFCone of Indiana's state representatives refused to support a non-binding resolution honoring the 100th anniversary of the girl scoutsFeb 21 16:54
DaemonFChis reason was that he has "heard allegations" that they are really a radical feminist group that promotes abortions and teaches girls to be lesbiansFeb 21 16:55
*DaemonFC head desksFeb 21 16:55
Formic_LOLFeb 21 16:55
Formic_talk about painting a group with one brushFeb 21 16:55
DaemonFCwhen asked why he has two daughters of his own in the girl scouts, he says "that's different"Feb 21 16:56
DaemonFCbecause that group isn't teaching them to be lesbians Feb 21 16:56
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 16:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Youtube's content matcher broken, stealing money from people who do not infringe copyright http://identi.ca/url/66964068 !googleFeb 21 16:56
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Formic_yeah I know exactly what he didFeb 21 16:57
Formic_some of the groups did so he is saying because of that, they are all doing itFeb 21 16:57
Formic_a weasel tacticFeb 21 16:57
DaemonFCwell, it's the national policy of the Boy Scouts to paint all gay men as a bunch of pedophilesFeb 21 16:57
DaemonFCso I really doubt these are progressive causes that the girl scouts are fighting forFeb 21 16:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♻ @CTVNews: Critics say look overseas for cautionary tales of Internet surveillance laws http://www.ur1.ca/8ah7y !cdnpoli #C30 !privacyFeb 21 16:58
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Formic_they're fighting for girl powerFeb 21 16:58
DaemonFCBig Religion likes to paint people with the same brushFeb 21 16:58
DaemonFCto make bogeymen to scare their followers withFeb 21 16:59
Formic_a lot of cults do thatFeb 21 16:59
Formic_groupsFeb 21 16:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @tonybaldwin BP Hauls in $7.7 Billion in Profits, Gulf Fishermen Haul in Shrimp with No Eyes http://tonyb.us/9nFeb 21 17:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] após dias de abstinência voluntária, uma caneca de café ontem me lembrou que sem cafeína a vida não tem sentido, módulo nem direçãoFeb 21 17:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Florence and the Machine play Red Rocks July 25! http://ur1.ca/8ahb0Feb 21 17:03
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Formic_DaemonFC - i don't think anyone is guilty of painting all proprietary software with the same brushFeb 21 17:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Summarizing The Open Questions Surrounding The Second Greek Bailout | ZeroHedge http://goo.gl/rCBSf let's wait for #march23Feb 21 17:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Sane arguments against #ACTA. http://ur1.ca/8ahbc via +glyn moodyFeb 21 17:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #2012: Santorum says privacy is Unconstitutional and causes abortions http://identi.ca/url/66964500Feb 21 17:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] ο @O_Kanalarhis στον διαγαλαξιακό αέρα του @radiobubbleFeb 21 17:08
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/90940922Feb 21 17:09
TechrightsBot-tr@Timothy Redaelli (drizztbsd)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Feb-12 17:05:00 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Another good reason to do NOT use #opendns :)Feb 21 17:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] For #Greece, "Tomorrow" Has Arrived | ZeroHedge http://goo.gl/NNgV0 #collapse #march23Feb 21 17:10
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DaemonFCit does deserve to be painted with the same brushFeb 21 17:12
DaemonFCbecause it all does the same thingFeb 21 17:12
DaemonFCtakes control of the user's data away from the userFeb 21 17:12
Formic_that's not trueFeb 21 17:13
Formic_not all of it does thatFeb 21 17:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Everything You Always Wanted to Know About #FRAND (But didn’t know who to ask) - http://bit.ly/x1EOn4 definitive stuffFeb 21 17:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mageia at #FOSDEM 2012 http://ur1.ca/8aguh #gnu #linuxFeb 21 17:13
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DaemonFCso when Windows Media Player puts out WMA files, what is it doing?Feb 21 17:13
MinceReven if it does, there are different degrees to which it could do soFeb 21 17:13
DaemonFCwhen Microsoft Office puts out Microsoft XML, what is that doing?Feb 21 17:13
MinceRthen it's converting your sane data into crapFeb 21 17:13
Formic_you can't play wma files in linux?Feb 21 17:13
DaemonFCnot without violating tons of patentsFeb 21 17:14
schestowitzDaemonFC: http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/2012/02/libreoffice_update.htmlFeb 21 17:14
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Formic_it doesn't prevent the user from having their dataFeb 21 17:14
DaemonFCand since none of them are documented, certain formats of WMA won't play at all in LinuxFeb 21 17:14
MinceRbut it's possible to read and write open formats correctly with nonfree applications, theoretically :>Feb 21 17:14
DaemonFCLossless and Pro don'tFeb 21 17:14
MinceRthere's of course still the issue of what happens if you lose the right or ability to use said nonfree applicationFeb 21 17:14
DaemonFCso it stores your data in proprietary secret formats that only Microsoft media players can playFeb 21 17:15
DaemonFCrecent versions of Windows Media Player try to silently transcode your music into WMA filesFeb 21 17:15
DaemonFCwhen you tell it to put them on your deviceFeb 21 17:15
Formic_if your dumb enough to use wma anyways you're too dumb to notice the difference converting to mp3Feb 21 17:16
Formic_you have proprietary itunes pushing out ALAC formatted lossless audio filesFeb 21 17:16
DaemonFCthere was never any real need for Windows Media other than to control the userFeb 21 17:16
Formic_with an apache2 licensed decoder out thereFeb 21 17:16
DaemonFCthe quality is worse than MP3Feb 21 17:16
DaemonFCand it only works on WindowsFeb 21 17:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LibreOffice Foundation Symbolises Maturity http://goo.gl/RDrkt #odf #tdfFeb 21 17:16
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DaemonFCALAC was not free or open source until a few months agoFeb 21 17:17
DaemonFCApple software has been making them for about 12 yearsFeb 21 17:17
DaemonFCthere was an ALAC codec under a BSD license that was reverse engineered thoughFeb 21 17:18
DaemonFCso it was possible to jailbreak your ALAC filesFeb 21 17:18
DaemonFCand put them into an open format, like FLACFeb 21 17:18
Formic_yeah but they are open nowFeb 21 17:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Users Want AIM Client for Ubuntu… http://ur1.ca/8ahh8 #aolFeb 21 17:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A full #Ubuntu desktop, on your docked #Android phone - http://bit.ly/yB0FLp great to see this innovation hereFeb 21 17:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Linux Setup - Amelia Andersdotter, EU Parliament http://goo.gl/nw7Xu #eu #gnu #linuxFeb 21 17:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Users Want AIM Client for Ubuntu... AOL Says No! | Benjamin Kerensa dot Com .::. Size~: 55.96 KBFeb 21 17:18
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Formic_I do conversions of flac to alac to use my ipodFeb 21 17:18
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Formic_with free toolsFeb 21 17:18
DaemonFCI just buy decent portable players that already support FLACFeb 21 17:19
DaemonFCit keeps me from having to deal with the horrid ipod firmwareFeb 21 17:19
DaemonFCand their NIH'd codecsFeb 21 17:19
Formic_iOSFeb 21 17:19
Formic_ipod touchFeb 21 17:19
MinceRhypeOS _is_ horridFeb 21 17:19
MinceR:>Feb 21 17:19
DaemonFCipods don't even use a documented file transfer methodFeb 21 17:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Americans Elect - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://goo.gl/2zYHL #usaFeb 21 17:20
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Formic_you can use sshFeb 21 17:20
DaemonFCand they don't properly read tag data or sort files based on itFeb 21 17:20
Formic_jailbreak itFeb 21 17:20
Formic_hook it up to itunes once and it will fill that inFeb 21 17:20
Formic_:PFeb 21 17:20
DaemonFCso most of your properly tagged MP3s will end up under Unknown Artist / Unknown Album / Unknown TrackFeb 21 17:20
DaemonFCI can't use itunesFeb 21 17:20
Formic_dont use mp3sFeb 21 17:21
DaemonFCit's not available for any good operating systemsFeb 21 17:21
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 17:21
Formic_use alac, and they will be properly tagged with artworkFeb 21 17:21
DaemonFCthe Windows version is bad, even for Windows softwareFeb 21 17:21
DaemonFCit's like several hundred megabytes of crapFeb 21 17:21
Formic_works fine with wineFeb 21 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @glynmoody: A full #Ubuntu desktop, on your docked #Android phone - http://bit.ly/yB0FLp great to see this innovation hereFeb 21 17:21
DaemonFCseveral system servicesFeb 21 17:21
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DaemonFChundreds of security problems it createsFeb 21 17:21
Formic_most of the time I just do sshFeb 21 17:22
DaemonFCsometimes it stops Windows from bootingFeb 21 17:22
Formic_scp directly to my ipodFeb 21 17:22
DaemonFCrunning itunes takes over 500 MB of RAMFeb 21 17:22
Formic_I have 16gbFeb 21 17:22
DaemonFCso that rules it out completely for older systemsFeb 21 17:22
MinceRit is also unreasonableFeb 21 17:22
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DaemonFCthe GUI is unresponsive even on a fast systemFeb 21 17:23
MinceRit's like WMP, which started by gobbling up over 40MB of RAM... on my PC which had 32MB of ramFeb 21 17:23
Formic_don't have a shit pcFeb 21 17:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Inspecting the Gentoo 12.0 Live DVD http://ur1.ca/8ahk3 #gentooFeb 21 17:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @anwajler: I wanted a pizza, Flash died, I couldn't browse menu. I ordered from Flash-free site. A company lost customer b/c of Flash!Feb 21 17:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Inspecting the Gentoo 12.0 Live DVD | Linux, BSD, and everything else... .::. Size~: 144.77 KBFeb 21 17:23
MinceRdon't run bloated crap applicationsFeb 21 17:23
Formic_who doesnt have 4gb of ramFeb 21 17:23
schestowitzMinceR: blame the hardware, not VistaFeb 21 17:23
MinceRseriously, a media player using 500 MB?Feb 21 17:23
DaemonFCI have 8Feb 21 17:23
DaemonFCI still don't want Windows or itunesFeb 21 17:23
DaemonFCthey're slow no matter what you useFeb 21 17:24
Formic_gnome and kde are bloated tooFeb 21 17:24
MinceRuse XFCEFeb 21 17:24
Formic_500mb of ramFeb 21 17:24
MinceRalso, gnome and kde do a lot more with the memory they useFeb 21 17:24
Formic_XFCE is 400~Feb 21 17:24
MinceR400 what?Feb 21 17:24
Formic_mbFeb 21 17:24
MinceRinteresting... gnome did run on my PDA which only has 256 MB RAM, and no swapFeb 21 17:25
MinceRmust be magic.Feb 21 17:25
Formic_http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_desktop_vitals&num=2Feb 21 17:25
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MinceRdid you actually read that article?Feb 21 17:26
Formic_yesFeb 21 17:26
MinceRthen how did you miss that they used various applications to use up that memory?Feb 21 17:26
MinceRnot to mention that it's a moronix articleFeb 21 17:26
Formic_alright, so ur pda doesnt work with extra appsFeb 21 17:26
MinceRactually it doesFeb 21 17:27
Formic_you can't run the apps he did thenFeb 21 17:27
MinceRi'll seeFeb 21 17:27
Formic_if you performed the same load, then it would use that much ramFeb 21 17:27
Formic_unless system monitor module is wrongFeb 21 17:27
MinceRor unless i didn't waste resources on stuff like compiz :>Feb 21 17:28
Formic_compiz runs on a 6 year old radeon 7500Feb 21 17:28
MinceRcrashes, tooFeb 21 17:29
Formic_thats normal for compizFeb 21 17:29
MinceRi know, right?Feb 21 17:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] And now I'm going offline because my computer has lost the nearly done version of my eBook #whathappenswhenchangesmadeduringworkonprojectFeb 21 17:30
Formic_usually right after the person uploads a video to youtube with wobbly windows and desktop cube spinsFeb 21 17:30
Formic_the spinning cube has increased my productivity 200%Feb 21 17:30
Formic_I can do nothing twice as fastFeb 21 17:31
MinceRi preferred the desktop gridFeb 21 17:31
Formic_kwin works too but I always turn it offFeb 21 17:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] Βγηκα για τσιγαρο παρεα με το !rbandroid για να μη χασω τη τραγουδαρα που εβαλε ο @O_KanalarhisFeb 21 17:31
schestowitzI prepared some very big lunch today, so big in fac that I could barely finish it. :/Feb 21 17:33
*schestowitz bloated and tired nowFeb 21 17:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Urgent! If you thought #ACTA was bad, check out #FRAND http://is.gd/Oge8GOFeb 21 17:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The New Face of #Ubuntu http://ur1.ca/8ahqd #gnu #linuxFeb 21 17:36
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schestowitzDaemonFC: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/02/firefox-to-get-new-default-theme-other.htmlFeb 21 17:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Tails 0.10.1 Screenshots http://ur1.ca/8ahrq p?linux_distribution_sm=Tails%200.10.1 #linuxFeb 21 17:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Ubuntu for Android http://ur1.ca/8ahsiFeb 21 17:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz #Tails 0.10.1 Screenshots http://ur1.ca/8ahrq p?linux_distribution_sm=Tails%200.10.1 #linuxFeb 21 17:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Paramount Sues Puzo Estate Over #Godfather Sequels http://goo.gl/hqozw only we should be allowed to make lame sequels to squeeze fans moneyFeb 21 17:41
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DaemonFCschestowitz: That will be when the GTK3 bindings landFeb 21 17:42
DaemonFCbut most KDE distributions will have ocygen-gtk3 by thenFeb 21 17:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody A full #Ubuntu desktop, on your docked #Android phone - http://bit.ly/yB0FLp great to see this innovation hereFeb 21 17:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Cool CyanogenMod 9 boot animation ! http://ur1.ca/8ahu9Feb 21 17:45
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DaemonFCFirefox 12 broke the Oxygen-KDE themeFeb 21 17:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu: you’re doing it wrong http://ur1.ca/89smi #ubuntu #gnu #linuxFeb 21 17:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] {Video} Highlights from #lfcollab past. 2012 Collaboration Summit just over a month away. Request your invite. http://bit.ly/ygYH4h #linuxFeb 21 17:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu’s Business Desktop Remix: Taking a Closer Look http://goo.gl/WQ7ZP #ubuntu #gnu #linuxFeb 21 17:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] i3 - improved tiling wm http://goo.gl/mtR5X #flosstools #wmFeb 21 17:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Writer's fault or editor's? First he rattles GNOME with bad headlines, now this for #kde http://goo.gl/QMvnF the opposite is trueFeb 21 17:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @theru: it's amazing how ugly the internet is if you don't have adblock and noscript in a browserFeb 21 17:51
schestowitzhttp://m.itworldcanada.com/story.aspx?id=144910Feb 21 17:52
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DaemonFCwell, KDE is more community driven anywayFeb 21 17:53
DaemonFCespecially over the last 5 yearsFeb 21 17:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Staph Turns into Drug-Resistant Superbug on Farms - http://bit.ly/A9Hvvj stupidity born of greed will kill people in the end (v @BoraZ)Feb 21 17:53
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DaemonFCthe only thing propping GNOME up are the enterprise distributions pouring money into itFeb 21 17:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Ubuntu for Android. Hmmm, lets hope this gets some traction in the mainstream market ! http://ur1.ca/8ahyq... http://b1t.it/aTqoFeb 21 17:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New package format in Tiny Core Linux 4.3 http://goo.gl/r3FlK #tinycore #gnu #linuxFeb 21 17:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Katy Perry Shows How The Problem With The Major Labels Is Economics, Not Piracy | Techdirt http://goo.gl/9qRr4 #mafiaaFeb 21 17:55
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DaemonFCRHEL and SUSE both support KDE as an optionFeb 21 17:55
DaemonFCKDE 4.4 will be supported until 2020 as part of RHEL 6Feb 21 17:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @glynmoody Heartland leaker is scientist Peter Gleick, says documents are all real - http://bit.ly/yB7NCe makes sense (v @BoraZ) #cli ...Feb 21 17:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux developers are a scarcity in the UK and it shows http://goo.gl/iDDDQ survey says Linux is the hot skill now.Feb 21 17:56
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DaemonFCI don't think it's surprising that what Microsoft funds that passes for news is trying to hint that both KDE and GNOME are failing thoughFeb 21 17:56
DaemonFCthe truth is that neither are close to failingFeb 21 17:57
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1325925 "True. Looks like Cannonical stopped listening to the users. Well, fortunately there are plentora of other free and open OSs out there."Feb 21 17:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] People who allege #KDE and #GNOME don't evolve much obviously ignore stagnation in OSuX and Windows in past ~10 years.Feb 21 17:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] γεια σου @O_kanalarhis.Feb 21 17:58
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schestowitzjust run a new versionFeb 21 17:59
schestowitzlet's  test itFeb 21 17:59
schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1325925Feb 21 17:59
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ubuntu: you’re doing it wrong http://dehype.org/2012/ubuntu-design/ #ubuntu #gnu #linuxFeb 21 17:59
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schestowitzworks okFeb 21 17:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The #Surveillance State – No Warrant Required - http://bit.ly/AfjF7y bad stuff in #canadaFeb 21 18:03
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DaemonFCI tried out Unity 5.4 yesterdayFeb 21 18:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] UK seeking advice on open standards definition http://goo.gl/VB2rU MSFT UK will send lobbyists to push for RAND (#swpats tax)Feb 21 18:05
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DaemonFCit's not terribleFeb 21 18:05
DaemonFCI still have to wonder why they reinvented all the wheels they could and made users put up with alpha quality software for the last yearFeb 21 18:05
schestowitz"your link is broken. "p" is missing in "php" ending/ Tails itself is really great, there should be other desktop environment option though, preferably LXDE. " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1325898Feb 21 18:05
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Tails 0.10.1 Screenshots http://www.thecodingstudio.com/opensource/linux/screenshots/index.ph p?linux_distribution_sm=Tails%200.10.1 #linuxFeb 21 18:05
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DaemonFCI think Unity is hard to port by designFeb 21 18:05
DaemonFCif it was easy, then every distribution would have it and Ubuntu would lose their unique desktopFeb 21 18:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Supreme Court: No Move Yet on Denying Human Gene Patents - http://bit.ly/zFVlc7 come on, just do it #genepatentsFeb 21 18:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Taming Clonezilla: Free open source disk imaging and backups http://goo.gl/u5O4r #Clonezilla #gnu #linuxFeb 21 18:08
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Formic_there is also the other problem of nobody really wanting itFeb 21 18:08
DaemonFCwell, that's not entirely trueFeb 21 18:08
DaemonFCthere have been some efforts made to make a Unity spin of Fedora or OpenSUSE or DebianFeb 21 18:09
DaemonFCbut they all gave up and decided that it requires too many non-upstreamed patchesFeb 21 18:09
Formic_I wasn't being literalFeb 21 18:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] surprise surprise! :) "Συνταγματικό κρίνει το ΣτΕ το πρώτο μνημόνιο | TVXS - TV Χωρίς Σύνορα" from http://identi.ca/url/66966985Feb 21 18:10
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DaemonFCUbuntu doesn't really want those patches upstreamed because it would make Unity easier to portFeb 21 18:10
Formic_humanity to othersFeb 21 18:10
DaemonFCit would be best for Kubuntu to toss all the non-upstreamed patches and plasma applets that Canonical shoved inFeb 21 18:12
DaemonFCKubuntu isn't even using them consistentlyFeb 21 18:12
DaemonFCthings like the indicator and suchFeb 21 18:12
DaemonFC(I just disabled it and made everything use the system tray)Feb 21 18:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Like to tinker? http://ur1.ca/8ai9r #linuxFeb 21 18:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] eeek! ♻ @cwebber: Soon even developers won't access their own OS, will just develop through web-based IDEs with SaaS build systemsFeb 21 18:13
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schestowitz"I love all this Canonical is the new Evil -stuff. Now even compared directly to Apple! :D This can mean one thing - there is hope for Ubuntu to break out to the masses. Maybe soon the big media will also jump in and compare Canonical to Ubuntu and that will surely launch Ubuntu to the bigger public for good :) Big up Canonical \o/ " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1325925Feb 21 18:13
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ubuntu: you’re doing it wrong http://dehype.org/2012/ubuntu-design/ #ubuntu #gnu #linuxFeb 21 18:13
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DaemonFCwell, as far as I know, jono isn't the evil taskmaster of entire Chinese cities full of mistreated, underpaid, overworked Chinese peopleFeb 21 18:15
DaemonFCyetFeb 21 18:15
DaemonFCbut that could be on the plate soonFeb 21 18:15
DaemonFC;)Feb 21 18:15
DaemonFCeventually Canonical will probably get Foxconn City stories dedicated to themFeb 21 18:16
DaemonFCif Ubuntu ever ends up on cheap consumer devicesFeb 21 18:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] A ;) (Also, http://identi.ca/url/11167962)Feb 21 18:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Scientists develop computer-controlled intersections for self-driving cars (Techworld): http://bit.ly/yUoX3mFeb 21 18:16
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Formic_who needs chinese slaves when you just repackage debian?Feb 21 18:17
DaemonFCno, I meant if they ever get the kind of control over their supply chain that Apple hasFeb 21 18:17
DaemonFCApple used to build their stuff in the United StatesFeb 21 18:17
Formic_yeah they didFeb 21 18:17
DaemonFCbut the last of that ended up in Chinese slave labor pits around 2003Feb 21 18:17
Formic_then environmentalists made it too  expensive and they just jumped to a country with weaker lawsFeb 21 18:17
DaemonFCFormic_: It's not that we shouldn't have environmental protection lawsFeb 21 18:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] @fontana got a bio that's better than http://identi.ca/url/66967284 for http://identi.ca/url/66762319 ?Feb 21 18:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] #HIMSS12 in Las Vegas with @lorimehen | http://red.ht/xTmJzC HIMSS12 #healthcare #transparencyFeb 21 18:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] This is awesome. Visualize the execution of a python program: http://ur1.ca/89r5z (re :scitesy)Feb 21 18:18
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DaemonFCwe should be implementing them with international treatiesFeb 21 18:18
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Formic_everyone should have themFeb 21 18:18
DaemonFCand heavily sanctioning non-compliant countriesFeb 21 18:18
DaemonFCthen there's no escape and no incentive to just run off to whoever lets you do whateverFeb 21 18:18
Formic_yeahFeb 21 18:19
Formic_but then you cant tax people to deathFeb 21 18:19
Formic_"This money will plant 100 new trees.... *mutter* in my back yeard muahahaha*"Feb 21 18:20
DaemonFCthere are many thousands of preventable deaths and diseases caused every year by the kind of irresponsible behavior that companies can get away withFeb 21 18:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] ινφινιτ ρεσπεκτ για piratebay "The Pirate Bay to defy international crackdown on filesharing websites" from http://identi.ca/url/66967314Feb 21 18:21
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DaemonFCif we made the same kind of effort to export US-style environmental laws to the third world that we're spending to try to get them to sign onto ACTA, then this problem might go awayFeb 21 18:21
DaemonFCbut we won'tFeb 21 18:21
DaemonFCeven after decades of the EPA being castrated by Republicans, it still does a hell of a lot more than its counterparts in China and Mexico and IndiaFeb 21 18:22
DaemonFCand that's part of what's causing employers to leave the USFeb 21 18:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Tanfoglio_ haha. Zijn e-mail-adres is helaas even geniaal :DFeb 21 18:23
DaemonFCbut the alternative should not be to repeal our lawsFeb 21 18:23
DaemonFCand let them poison usFeb 21 18:23
Formic_the tax on electronics in canada just sends the electronic waste to chinaFeb 21 18:24
DaemonFCwe need a mixed approach to solving these problemsFeb 21 18:24
DaemonFCsomething that neither side is going to like because it expects everyone to do somethingFeb 21 18:24
DaemonFCand nobody wants to do anythingFeb 21 18:24
DaemonFCon one side, you have extreme liberals, they want to make the cost to heat your home and drive your car so unaffordable that  nobody can do eitherFeb 21 18:25
DaemonFCit will probably solve the pollution problem when we all live like Cambodians thoughFeb 21 18:25
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 18:26
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DaemonFCthe far right wants to just repeal all laws and regulations and let big companies come and poison people and make them sick Feb 21 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @SansSouciCrea Uiteraard ;)Feb 21 18:26
DaemonFCgas and electricity might get cheaper as a side effectFeb 21 18:26
DaemonFCthe result to the environment would be devastating Feb 21 18:27
Formic_the corps dont pay itFeb 21 18:27
Formic_they pass the cost off to usFeb 21 18:27
DaemonFCevery once in a while, someone suggests something that makes too much sense like "why don't we develop alternative fuels, build modern nuclear power plants, turn off the lights and TV when we're not in a room...."Feb 21 18:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] Το ΜνημI λεει δεν προσκρούει σε αρθρα περι της ανρθω. αξιοπρ.,την αρχη ισότητας,της προστασ. μισθων κ συνταξεων κι αλλα τετοια χαζα πραγματαFeb 21 18:28
DaemonFCand the chorus responds "You just shut up, we'll have you living like Cambodians or Mexicans soon!"Feb 21 18:28
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DaemonFCit's just so horrifying to watch these fucking idiots on the left and rightFeb 21 18:28
Formic_the corps cash on in this tooFeb 21 18:29
DaemonFCeach with their own horrible unsustainable ideas to revert all progress across the boardFeb 21 18:29
Formic_"we'll let you leave your lights on but it will cost you"Feb 21 18:29
Formic_"in fact dont turn them off, we just implemented peak billing and smart meters"Feb 21 18:30
DaemonFCI'm considering moving somewhere with skylights in each roomFeb 21 18:30
DaemonFCit's ridiculous to have lights turned on when the sun is outFeb 21 18:30
Formic_I light my room with the slightly dim glow of my quantum windowFeb 21 18:31
DaemonFCI don't see anything wrong with tax credits for putting in skylights and properly insulating your homeFeb 21 18:31
DaemonFCand replacing old furnaces and air conditionersFeb 21 18:31
Formic_You could always ride a horse to work.Feb 21 18:32
DaemonFCpeople just don't do anthing with efficiency in mindFeb 21 18:32
DaemonFCeven when the added efficiency has very little up front costFeb 21 18:32
DaemonFCand will save them lots of money in the long termFeb 21 18:32
Formic_There are a lot of places where its still legal to ride a horse on the streetFeb 21 18:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] !Ubuntu For Android, Announced By Mark Shuttleworth http://identi.ca/url/66967979Feb 21 18:33
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DaemonFCmy cousin was paying a $400 gas bill to heat her home at one pointFeb 21 18:33
Formic_was she using her stove?Feb 21 18:34
DaemonFCshe decided that it would be cheaper in the long term to pay someone to come out and properly insulate the outer wallsFeb 21 18:34
DaemonFCno, they ripped out a bunch of thin insulation that someone put in back in the 60sFeb 21 18:34
DaemonFCand replaced it with that spray on insulation they use nowFeb 21 18:34
DaemonFCand this december, her gas bill was only $120Feb 21 18:34
DaemonFCmost people would rather pay more in the long term than take on the sticker shock of an up front costFeb 21 18:35
DaemonFCespecially when finding and retaining a job is how it is nowFeb 21 18:35
Formic_mine is like $26 /monthFeb 21 18:35
DaemonFCnobody wants to make a major investment if they know they might have to move within a year or twoFeb 21 18:35
DaemonFCa bad economy encourages everyone to behave irresponsiblyFeb 21 18:36
DaemonFCto not plan for the next 5 years when they may not have food to eat next weekFeb 21 18:36
DaemonFCthe block I live on is full of homes that are falling into disrepair, being condemned, and having the city come out to knock them downFeb 21 18:37
DaemonFCthe house I live in is in decent shapeFeb 21 18:37
DaemonFCbut half the block is now an open fieldFeb 21 18:38
DaemonFC5 years ago there were houses thereFeb 21 18:38
DaemonFCif it wasn't for their being no jobs and banks being allowed to fly by night and victimize people of modest means, then there still would be houses thereFeb 21 18:38
DaemonFC*thereFeb 21 18:38
DaemonFCthis town has shrank in population every year for the last 10 yearsFeb 21 18:39
DaemonFCit has lost over 30% of its size by population since 2000Feb 21 18:40
schestowitzTook a nap in the evening, which is and probably something to do with the lunch.Feb 21 18:40
Formic_lolFeb 21 18:41
DaemonFCas the tax base narrows and the wealthy move out into the unincorporated areas, the local politicians seek to raise taxes on the people that are leftFeb 21 18:41
DaemonFCso my water, sewage, trash, and property taxes have doubledFeb 21 18:41
Formic_meanwhile BillyG says hes not paying enough taxes so they double it for you moreFeb 21 18:41
DaemonFChttp://www.census.gov/geo/www/guidestloc/st18_in.htmlFeb 21 18:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Guide to State and Local Census Geography - Indiana .::. Size~: 21.84 KBFeb 21 18:42
DaemonFCthis data is wrongFeb 21 18:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] time to go.κατέβασα και τους resistencias της 18/2 για το δρομο.Να τους ακούτε αυτους ειτε με !rbandroid ειτε χωρις, γαμαει η εκπομπη τουςFeb 21 18:43
DaemonFCFort Wayne about had the population to become a First Class City several years ago, which under the Unigov law, would have forced it to combine government with Allen CountyFeb 21 18:44
DaemonFCso they changed the First Class City definition to 750,000 or moreFeb 21 18:44
DaemonFCFort Wayne is 97% of Allen CountyFeb 21 18:45
DaemonFCthe remaining 3% is full of doctors and lawyers that don't want to pay their taxesFeb 21 18:45
DaemonFCso they fought to get the law changed so they wouldn't have to pay their taxesFeb 21 18:45
Formic_lolFeb 21 18:45
DaemonFCMarion County and Indianapolis don't have separate governments and haven't since the Unigov law passed in 1970Feb 21 18:46
DaemonFCso there are no county commissioners, no sheriff's deputies, etc.Feb 21 18:47
DaemonFCthe sheriff is the only one in the state with no territory to protectFeb 21 18:47
DaemonFCsince the Indianapolis Police have jurisdiction over the entire countyFeb 21 18:47
DaemonFCand he's also the highest paid sheriff in IndianaFeb 21 18:47
DaemonFChe made $217,000 last yearFeb 21 18:48
Formic_that keeps him quietFeb 21 18:48
DaemonFChis only duties are to serve legal papers and act as the commander of the jailFeb 21 18:48
DaemonFCyeah, easy jobFeb 21 18:48
DaemonFCsix figure salaryFeb 21 18:49
DaemonFCyou'd fight to keep it tooFeb 21 18:49
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 18:49
Formic_lolFeb 21 18:49
Formic_its probably to keep him quiet while your state is being unifiedFeb 21 18:49
DaemonFCno, that's the only county that has had it happenFeb 21 18:50
DaemonFCUnigov was a disaster and they decided they didn't want it to happen anywhere else but that it would cost them millions of dollars to separate Indianapolis from Marion County so they left it like thatFeb 21 18:51
DaemonFCother cities in Marion County have their own mayors and city councils thoughFeb 21 18:51
DaemonFCbut they can be overruled by the mayor and city council in Indianapolis Feb 21 18:51
DaemonFCand the Indianapolis police have jurisdiction in those towns since they replaced the sheriffs officeFeb 21 18:52
DaemonFCit was one of the earlier attempts to get rid of home rule in the stateFeb 21 18:52
DaemonFCand pass control from the legislature to unified city/county unitsFeb 21 18:53
DaemonFCthey're back at it again as of late and have scored some victories thoughFeb 21 18:53
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 18:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Finished the 15-page report today (ERC), resuming experiments on the new server with 12 GB of RAM. Thanks to #Linux !Feb 21 18:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Booktype makes book collaboration web-based and simple http://ur1.ca/8aiyk... http://b1t.it/aTrTFeb 21 18:53
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DaemonFCbut nothing on that scaleFeb 21 18:53
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DaemonFCnow they're trying to eliminate "townships" which are layers of government lower than towns and citiesFeb 21 18:54
DaemonFCone town in Indiana typically has one or more townships underneath itFeb 21 18:54
DaemonFCthe Republicans are arguing that it's a vestige from the 1800s and are trying to chip away at it by eliminating elected positions one at a time and transferring their duties to the countyFeb 21 18:55
DaemonFCagain, an attack on what's left of home ruleFeb 21 18:55
DaemonFCthe state government has been on a rampage trying to declare that it has the authority to micromanage every last inch of this stateFeb 21 18:56
DaemonFCand they're making progressFeb 21 18:56
DaemonFCit's spilled out into all kinds of stupid waysFeb 21 18:57
DaemonFClike, some towns and cities and counties have their own smoking regulationsFeb 21 18:57
DaemonFCwhere you can smokeFeb 21 18:57
DaemonFCwhat the fine or punishment is for breaking that ordinance, etc.Feb 21 18:57
DaemonFCso the state is now trying to pass its own law that nullifies every local law and puts a statewide ban on smoking except in places that have bribed the Indiana legislature to allow it to continueFeb 21 18:58
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 18:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux is not a matter of salary - when one is privileged in the marketplace, worker has better ability to negotiate his/her conditionsFeb 21 18:58
DaemonFC"OK, you can smoke in casinos and bars"Feb 21 18:58
DaemonFCWhat's a bar?Feb 21 18:59
DaemonFC"Any establishment with a certain class of liquor license!"Feb 21 18:59
DaemonFCSo if a restaurant gets that liquor license they can classify themselves as a bar that's exempt?Feb 21 18:59
DaemonFC"Yep"Feb 21 18:59
DaemonFCHow much does that license cost?Feb 21 18:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If freedom leads to happiness and "you only live once", what's the point being a slave to one's wage?Feb 21 19:00
DaemonFC"A few thousand dollars and we'll have our bureaucrats deciding arbitrary who can get one"Feb 21 19:00
DaemonFCOh, I see, better start baking pies filled with $100s for you guysFeb 21 19:00
DaemonFC"Now you get it!"Feb 21 19:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] “I founded the free software movement, a movement for freedom to cooperate." -Richard M. StallmanFeb 21 19:01
DaemonFCthey've caught on that the more power they can wrest from the local governments, the more money they get for their re-election campaigns from organizations that want exemption status under whatever the new statewide law saysFeb 21 19:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] " A third possible candidate for the highest human good is scientific or philosophical contemplation." http://goo.gl/wJgNC #AristotleFeb 21 19:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Aristotle (Greek philosopher) :: Happiness -- Britannica Online Encyclopedia .::. Size~: 191.52 KBFeb 21 19:05
schestowitz[18:59] <DaemonFC> What's a bar?Feb 21 19:06
schestowitzA house open to a bunch of unknown strangers who take legal drugs thereFeb 21 19:07
schestowitzSometimes the house provides facilities for games and for recreational activities like dancing, tooFeb 21 19:07
DaemonFCI don't see why the state needs to get involved and tell people where they can smokeFeb 21 19:07
DaemonFCif you know people will be smoking in that restaurant, and that bothers you, don't go to that restaurantFeb 21 19:08
schestowitzsmoke spreadsFeb 21 19:08
DaemonFCmost resataurants are already smoke free voluntarilyFeb 21 19:08
DaemonFCif permitting it would drive away too many of their customersFeb 21 19:08
schestowitzand smoke has all sorts of issues, ranging from smell to health matters, long- and short-term (loss of voice for example)Feb 21 19:08
schestowitzDaemonFC: to whom?Feb 21 19:08
schestowitzThe staff?Feb 21 19:08
DaemonFCthe staff can go find another job if they feel that strongly about itFeb 21 19:09
DaemonFCfreedom of associationFeb 21 19:09
schestowitzOne of the defences of bans is that bar staff should not be required to inhale smoke to make ends meetFeb 21 19:09
schestowitzDaemonFC: not always given this optionFeb 21 19:09
schestowitzalternatively, the smoker can find another place (e.g. "outside") to do the "fix"Feb 21 19:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] A Documentary Film | The Greater Good http://goo.gl/xe10T #docs #bigpharmaFeb 21 19:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A Documentary Film | The Greater Good .::. Size~: 21.62 KBFeb 21 19:10
schestowitzI'm all in favour of banning smoking of anything unless one does it in very open space or at homeFeb 21 19:10
DaemonFChttp://www.wibc.com/news/Story.aspx?ID=1657494Feb 21 19:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Smoking Ban Likely to Pass Committee Hurdle Wednesday, Go to Senate | Indy's News Center - 93.1 WIBC Indianapolis - Live. Local. First. .::. Size~: 121.04 KBFeb 21 19:10
DaemonFC"The American Cancer Society said it would rather see no bill than the House version."Feb 21 19:10
schestowitzgoodFeb 21 19:10
DaemonFCdoes that tell you how bad this law is?Feb 21 19:10
schestowitznoFeb 21 19:11
DaemonFCit preempts stronger local lawsFeb 21 19:11
DaemonFCand replaces it with watered down lawsFeb 21 19:11
DaemonFCthat favor lobbyistsFeb 21 19:11
schestowitzdo you still smoke sometimes"Feb 21 19:11
schestowitz*?Feb 21 19:11
schestowitzand what about your cat?Feb 21 19:11
DaemonFCyeahFeb 21 19:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Meet Trovicor & Area SpA, two more companies selling mass spy equipment to dictators who violate human rights: https://eff.org/r.S9YFeb 21 19:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Spy Tech Companies & Their Authoritarian Customers, Part II: Trovicor and Area SpA | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 35.03 KBFeb 21 19:11
DaemonFCI go outside or hang my head out the windowFeb 21 19:11
DaemonFCI don't like the smell of lingering tobacco smokeFeb 21 19:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open Season on Open Standards http://ur1.ca/8ajfeFeb 21 19:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Season on Open Standards - Open Enterprise .::. Size~: 101.37 KBFeb 21 19:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] New virt, power management features in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.8 (H): http://bit.ly/wGjQRWFeb 21 19:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What's new in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.8  - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 42.91 KBFeb 21 19:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] WebKit uses CSS 3's ability to dynamically calculate the width and height of elements (WebKit blog): http://bit.ly/w319N2Feb 21 19:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Surfin' Safari - Blog Archive  » Last week in WebKit: calculated CSS values and the translate attribute .::. Size~: 24.36 KBFeb 21 19:20
Formic_14:07] <schestowitz> One of the defences of bans is that bar staff should not be required to inhale smoke to make ends meetFeb 21 19:20
Formic_ontario bans smoking in all workplacesFeb 21 19:20
schestowitzyes, UK tooFeb 21 19:20
schestowitzthe tobacco lobby is still too strong in parts of the USFeb 21 19:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Intel has been very quiet about #tizen - any phones in the pipeline?Feb 21 19:21
XFaCEDaemonFC: great blog post you didFeb 21 19:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] There is gradual expansion in #Android sites while more and more purely "Linux" sites become inactive. It's a brand transition.Feb 21 19:23
XFaCEDaemonFC: your best one yetFeb 21 19:24
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/tracyrreed/statuses/166607366979203072Feb 21 19:24
TechrightsBot-tr@tracyrreed: The difference in quality of life due to your second billion is much less than your first. Just sayin'...Feb 21 19:24
schestowitztessier: or first millionFeb 21 19:25
schestowitzbillion to millionFeb 21 19:25
XFaCEDaemonFC: BTW, an appendum to the google sued postFeb 21 19:26
XFaCEDaemonFC: Opera comes with a built-in plugin blockFeb 21 19:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Daily Bell - VIDEO: High-Tech #India Inventions 4,000 Years Ago http://goo.gl/4h7xr #scitek #xfilesFeb 21 19:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Daily Bell - VIDEO: High-Tech India Inventions 4,000 Years Ago .::. Size~: 92.57 KBFeb 21 19:26
XFaCEclick to use where all embed plugins (not just Flash) are replaced with a play iconFeb 21 19:27
Formic_flashblockFeb 21 19:27
XFaCEFormic_: Like that, but built into OperaFeb 21 19:27
Formic_coolFeb 21 19:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Mobile World Congress is next week. It'd be a good time to announce a new #tizen device.Feb 21 19:28
XFaCE'deedFeb 21 19:30
XFaCEFormic_: Back to the subject earlierFeb 21 19:31
XFaCEYou support the smoking bans?Feb 21 19:31
Formic_isn't opera proprietary?Feb 21 19:31
Formic_yeahFeb 21 19:31
Formic_kind of sucks going to a restaurant with smokers insideFeb 21 19:31
Formic_especially if they ran out of non smoking seatsFeb 21 19:32
XFaCEFormic_: Yes it is.Feb 21 19:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] There's an SDK with an emulator. https://developer.tizen.org/Feb 21 19:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Tuesday http://ur1.ca/8ajuyFeb 21 19:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tizen Developer .::. Size~: 5.64 KBFeb 21 19:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Security advisories for Tuesday [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 9.8 KBFeb 21 19:33
XFaCEFormic_: Refresh my memory, you were the one I was arguing with about true freedom or something to that extent last Friday?Feb 21 19:33
Formic_there is a good possibility that is trueFeb 21 19:34
schestowitzMS lobbyist on MS: http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/167309286551207937Feb 21 19:34
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: Microsoft promises that it 'will not seek an injunction' based on standard-essential patents http://t.co/fqIsDeGG Will Google do the same?Feb 21 19:34
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schestowitzDaemonises Google as usualFeb 21 19:34
XFaCEWhat the fuck is a "standard-essential" patent?Feb 21 19:34
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/167310876750258177 http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/167316611051683840Feb 21 19:35
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @case12hill their proposal is in the public interest and current events, such as injunctions based on such patents, make this a top priorityFeb 21 19:35
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @case12hill sorry I have no time for further discussion of this hereFeb 21 19:35
schestowitzLOL.. The lobbyists flees when challengedFeb 21 19:35
schestowitzAs usualFeb 21 19:35
XFaCEschestowitz: Srsly tho, what is that?Feb 21 19:35
schestowitzMS FlorianFeb 21 19:35
schestowitzPretends the extortionist is the nice partyFeb 21 19:35
schestowitzand Google, the victim, is an ogreFeb 21 19:35
XFaCEschestowitz: No, I mean a "standard-essential" patentFeb 21 19:36
schestowitzWhat a scummy little liarFeb 21 19:36
schestowitzstandard-essectial means you need licence to comply with the standardFeb 21 19:36
schestowitzFRNDFeb 21 19:36
schestowitzFRANDFeb 21 19:36
schestowitzor RANDFeb 21 19:36
schestowitzAnd what he doesn't say isFeb 21 19:36
XFaCEAh, that nonsenseFeb 21 19:36
schestowitzMS passes std-essnetial patents to trollsFeb 21 19:36
schestowitzLike MOSAIDFeb 21 19:37
schestowitzTo attackFeb 21 19:37
schestowitzWhat a bunch of criminalFeb 21 19:37
schestowitzMS Floridan is part of their syndicateFeb 21 19:37
XFaCEI assume that these are the "common sense" patentsFeb 21 19:37
schestowitzlike a paopaganda ministerFeb 21 19:37
Formic_lol stdFeb 21 19:39
Formic_".... <schestowitz> MS passes std....."Feb 21 19:40
XFaCElolFeb 21 19:40
XFaCEand monoFeb 21 19:40
schestowitzMore from the mobbyist http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/167651989491171329Feb 21 19:40
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: Two more huge loopholes identified in Google FRAND letter to standards bodies http://t.co/H1EsuqozFeb 21 19:40
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Formic_huhuhuhu he said aidsFeb 21 19:40
schestowitzNot sure whether to laugh or scoffFeb 21 19:40
schestowitzhe's obviously an agenda pusher for really nasty peopleFeb 21 19:41
XFaCEsclaugh?Feb 21 19:41
schestowitzand he gets paid, so he doesn't mindFeb 21 19:41
XFaCELouff?Feb 21 19:41
schestowitz[19:39] <Formic_> ".... <schestowitz> MS passes std....."Feb 21 19:41
schestowitzOh, I wasn't thinking of thatFeb 21 19:41
schestowitzstandardFeb 21 19:41
schestowitzSTDFeb 21 19:41
schestowitzSTD-essentialFeb 21 19:41
schestowitzLOLFeb 21 19:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] !Auralquiz available for #openSuse, thanks to David Lara: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/dvlara/openSUSE_12.1/Feb 21 19:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Index of /repositories/home:/dvlara/openSUSE_12.1 .::. Size~: 1.6 KBFeb 21 19:41
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/90946898 http://identi.ca/notice/90946856Feb 21 19:43
TechrightsBot-tr@Evan Prodromou (evan)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Feb-12 19:29:05 UTC - Identi.ca: There's an SDK with an emulator. https://developer.tizen.org/Feb 21 19:43
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TechrightsBot-tr@Evan Prodromou (evan)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Feb-12 19:28:08 UTC - Identi.ca: Mobile World Congress is next week. It'd be a good time to announce a new #tizen device.Feb 21 19:43
Formic_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LYTZRtgWXA&feature=relatedFeb 21 19:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Beavis and Butthead in Beard Boys       - YouTube .::. Size~: 120.49 KBFeb 21 19:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @eff Meet Trovicor & Area SpA, two more companies selling mass spy equipment to dictators who violate human rights: https://eff.org/r.S9YFeb 21 19:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Spy Tech Companies & Their Authoritarian Customers, Part II: Trovicor and Area SpA | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 35.03 KBFeb 21 19:45
XFaCEAny way to make a buck...Feb 21 19:45
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XFaCEFormic_: or maybe it was fewt Feb 21 19:47
Formic_I think it was meFeb 21 19:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Announcement: @bkuhn (and legions of interested others) shall have 2 days to copy currently nondestroyed dents. #denticideispainlessFeb 21 19:48
XFaCEFormic_: Alrighty thenFeb 21 19:48
schestowitzTizen seems to be freer, but no ARM yet (Linaro)Feb 21 19:49
XFaCEschestowitz: Really? That's surprisingFeb 21 19:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @evan Tizen seems to be freer, but no ARM yet (Linaro)Feb 21 19:50
DaemonFChttp://www.wibc.com/news/Story.aspx?ID=1658005Feb 21 19:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Police: Girlfriend Kills Boyfriend's Dog During Argument | Indy's News Center - 93.1 WIBC Indianapolis - Live. Local. First. .::. Size~: 119.31 KBFeb 21 19:50
schestowitzTrend Micro attacks competitors with #swpats and then wants some PR points with OSS dumpageFeb 21 19:50
DaemonFCof something written in a language that Microsoft no longer supportsFeb 21 19:50
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/90921316Feb 21 19:50
TechrightsBot-tr@George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Feb-12 09:32:43 UTC - Identi.ca: Re http://ur1.ca/89ypc - I downscoped to #Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, I did not like Unity GUI; sounds like it may be worth it to try out #Linux #MintFeb 21 19:50
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: What does Ubuntu want to be when it grows up? | ZDNet .::. Size~: 154.2 KBFeb 21 19:50
DaemonFCthat they got by paying the original authorFeb 21 19:50
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/90921026Feb 21 19:50
TechrightsBot-tr@George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Feb-12 09:23:54 UTC - Identi.ca: Re http://ur1.ca/8a6u8 this is good news that pre-installed #Ubuntu computers are available now, it means demand is on the rise despite FUD.Feb 21 19:51
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Top 5 Ubuntu pre-installed Laptop companies | Unixmen .::. Size~: 422.13 KBFeb 21 19:51
Formic_14:49] <DaemonFC> of something written in a language that Microsoft no longer supportsFeb 21 19:51
Formic_like basicFeb 21 19:51
Formic_lolFeb 21 19:51
XFaCEQUICKBasicFeb 21 19:51
Formic_I learned turingFeb 21 19:51
XFaCEfuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuunFeb 21 19:51
XFaCE*notFeb 21 19:51
schestowitzFFFUUUUFeb 21 19:51
Formic_I think I still have source codeFeb 21 19:51
XFaCE"But he's nobody's hero"Feb 21 19:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/HumanitarianV4V/status/171618050234269696Feb 21 19:52
TechrightsBot-tr@HumanitarianV4V: “@schestowitz: #Symantec a Patent Aggressor http://t.co/vvIaIAsh #security” VERY NICE!!!!! RTFeb 21 19:52
*DaemonFC shows them his Kubuntu and says HijackThis!Feb 21 19:52
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Symantec a Patent Aggressor | Techrights .::. Size~: 84.74 KBFeb 21 19:52
DaemonFCI thought this was already open source? no?Feb 21 19:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/HumanitarianV4V/status/171618050234269696Feb 21 19:53
TechrightsBot-tr@HumanitarianV4V: “@schestowitz: #Symantec a Patent Aggressor http://t.co/vvIaIAsh #security” VERY NICE!!!!! RTFeb 21 19:53
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Symantec a Patent Aggressor | Techrights .::. Size~: 84.67 KBFeb 21 19:53
XFaCEDaemonFC: Symantec? Not by choice lolFeb 21 19:53
schestowitzhttp://t.co/uci3eLzf Feb 21 19:53
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting application/xml; charset=utf-8 typeFeb 21 19:53
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ISaudI/status/170787297237811200Feb 21 19:53
TechrightsBot-tr@ISaudI: @cs_saheel @schestowitz مؤتمر في مصر تكلم فيه العالم الكبير مصطفى السيد عن محاربة الخلايا السرطانية عن طريق تغليفها بايونات الذهب ..Feb 21 19:53
DaemonFCoh, you can trust SymantecFeb 21 19:54
DaemonFCall their software is open source nowFeb 21 19:54
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 19:54
DaemonFCunder the PBPLFeb 21 19:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Daily Bell - #EU's Prodi Admits Leaders Knew Euro Would Cause Ruin but Hoped Political Union Would Follow http://goo.gl/Ni91d #nwoFeb 21 19:55
DaemonFCyou can go through their code and find out if it has any holes in itFeb 21 19:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Daily Bell - EU's Prodi Admits Leaders Knew Euro Would Cause Ruin but Hoped Political Union Would Follow .::. Size~: 122.24 KBFeb 21 19:55
DaemonFCjust like plenty of people are already doing :)Feb 21 19:55
XFaCEDaemonFC: You can't hurt me! I've got Norton!Feb 21 19:55
XFaCEoohhhFeb 21 19:56
MinceRoh yes i can! "norton sucks!"Feb 21 19:56
MinceRburn!Feb 21 19:56
XFaCEBUY CONDOMS BUY CONDOMSFeb 21 19:57
XFaCEVIAGRACIALISVIAGRACIALISVIAGRACIALISFeb 21 19:57
MinceR:DFeb 21 19:57
MinceRviagracialistFeb 21 19:57
DaemonFCMcAfee protects Firefox users by running it into Windows's 4 GB memory limit and crashing it before the user has a chance to view any malicious sites in itFeb 21 19:57
DaemonFCB-)Feb 21 19:57
MinceR:>Feb 21 19:58
XFaCEDaemonFC: You mean 3.4 GB limitFeb 21 19:58
MinceRto be fair, that's the only way mcafee could protect anyone, anywayFeb 21 19:58
DaemonFCXFaCE: 2.8 in some casesFeb 21 19:58
XFaCE3.42 to be exactFeb 21 19:58
DaemonFCit depends on how much video RAM you have on your GPUFeb 21 19:58
XFaCEget yer hacked russian kernels!!Feb 21 19:59
Formic_you don't have anyFeb 21 19:59
Formic_that makes no senseFeb 21 19:59
XFaCEFormic_: me?Feb 21 19:59
Formic_video ram isn't on the gpuFeb 21 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is zuargo from identi.ca with 72 dents!Feb 21 20:00
schestowitzOne MS lobbyist cites another MS lobbyist http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/169813474694791168Feb 21 20:00
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: Really interesting piece by @ejnaughton on GPL enforcement debate and copyleft concerns of commercial players http://t.co/uivud2A9Feb 21 20:00
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/169819521547374593Feb 21 20:01
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @gcaughey No one will know exactly how viral it is until some cases are decided by appeals courts. But there's huge uncertainty.Feb 21 20:01
schestowitzMS puppetsFeb 21 20:01
schestowitzanti-GPLFeb 21 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] And, y'know, proud of it.Feb 21 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Daily Bell - #BBC: Let's Kill the Internet and Start Over http://goo.gl/0d9N3 #censorship #nwo #msmFeb 21 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #KennyRogers' Lawsuit Shows The Many Ways That A Major Label Screws Artists (Even The Big Ones) http://goo.gl/JKc58Feb 21 20:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Daily Bell - BBC: Let's Kill the Internet and Start Over .::. Size~: 130.3 KBFeb 21 20:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kenny Rogers' Lawsuit Shows The Many Ways That A Major Label Screws Artists (Even The Big Ones) | Techdirt .::. Size~: 87.93 KBFeb 21 20:01
schestowitzanti-Google all the way http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/170139567360454656Feb 21 20:03
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: Apple just won a German injunction (Munich court) against slide-to-unlock as implemented by most Motorola devices. Will blog about it later.Feb 21 20:03
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DaemonFCI think Mozilla software might end up getting ran under X long after the transition to WaylandFeb 21 20:05
DaemonFCthey don't seem to want to do any work towards making OpenGL compositing work and so they stuck some halfassed compositor that uses XRender in it and called it a dayFeb 21 20:05
XFaCEDaemonFC: So Wayland's a sure thing?Feb 21 20:06
DaemonFCI think soFeb 21 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] Oh yeah, very much so. Recall this big lawsuit AGAINST the labels: http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/4596/135/ #Canada #MAFIAA #C11Feb 21 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Hey, so, what's "Gatekeeper"? I'm kinda lost.Feb 21 20:06
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DaemonFCXRender is a good thing and a bad thingFeb 21 20:06
DaemonFCit accelerates everything Firefox displays with Cairo using EXA/UXAFeb 21 20:07
DaemonFCand it's pretty stable even with really bad video driversFeb 21 20:07
DaemonFCeven ones that ship barely usable OpenGL implementationsFeb 21 20:07
DaemonFClike AMD CatalystFeb 21 20:07
DaemonFCit's a bad thing because it needs XFeb 21 20:08
XFaCEschestowitz: http://avatar3.status.net/i/identica/40262-96-20120219010940.jpegFeb 21 20:08
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XFaCEschestowitz: Dark Roy?Feb 21 20:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Oh, the Mackertosh thing. Yes, I agree. Perfect is the enemy of the not-nightmarish.Feb 21 20:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !Mageia 2 is approaching: #Mageia 2 Beta 1 has been released :)! http://ur1.ca/8ak9oFeb 21 20:08
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XFaCE:PFeb 21 20:08
DaemonFCand it's a bad thing because it's jsut good enough to make them not have to work on OpenGL supportFeb 21 20:08
DaemonFCwhich has the potential to be fasterFeb 21 20:08
XFaCEAnd it's bad for me because of Intel = no vsyncFeb 21 20:09
DaemonFCXFaCE: With radeon, you can end up with worse tearing with XRender compositing than with no compositing at allFeb 21 20:13
DaemonFCbut with OpenGL ES it's hardly even an issue at allFeb 21 20:14
DaemonFCeven with vsync turned offFeb 21 20:14
DaemonFCthe rendering lag caused by the X Server is terribleFeb 21 20:14
DaemonFCthe only way to get rid of the problems of X is to bypass it for all the performance critical stuffFeb 21 20:15
DaemonFChttp://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505146_162-57381768/supreme-court-may-halt-college-affirmative-action/Feb 21 20:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I believe that correcting other people's terminology lost.Feb 21 20:18
DaemonFCthis is actually one case where it pays to have a court that leans to the rightFeb 21 20:19
DaemonFCthis affirmative action crap needs to be kicked to the curb, nowFeb 21 20:19
DaemonFCit turned from equal opportunity to promoting reverse discriminationFeb 21 20:20
XFaCE[ZP] Pirate Bay Blocked in the UK by June? - http://www.zeropaid.com/news/99198/pirate-bay-blocked-in-the-uk-by-june/Feb 21 20:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Pirate Bay Blocked in the UK by June? .::. Size~: 35.91 KBFeb 21 20:21
DaemonFCyou could solve both problems with a lottery system that doesn't consider race as a tie breakerFeb 21 20:22
DaemonFCin this particular caseFeb 21 20:22
DaemonFCXFaCE: So they install The Pirate Bay DancingFeb 21 20:22
DaemonFCand the block is ineffectiveFeb 21 20:22
XFaCEDaemonFC: exactlyFeb 21 20:23
DaemonFCbesides, with magnets, it would only take about 90 MB to clone TPB onto sites that are not blockedFeb 21 20:23
DaemonFCthe courts will never keep up with the new domains that people create to clone the siteFeb 21 20:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux Mint – the taste of success http://ur1.ca/8akfr #linuxmintFeb 21 20:28
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XFaCEDaemonFC: Hell, just make a database of sortsFeb 21 20:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu for Android arrives: In pictures http://ur1.ca/8akg3Feb 21 20:30
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Formic_xface - was it you that had cjdns?Feb 21 20:31
XFaCEFormic_: I have CJDNS, yeah, with help from pieterc_ Feb 21 20:31
XFaCEoopsFeb 21 20:31
XFaCEprurigro: Feb 21 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Apache 2.4 Delivers More Performance http://ur1.ca/8akgf #fossFeb 21 20:31
XFaCEBTW, has he said anything here in awhile?Feb 21 20:31
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Formic_do you go on irc thereFeb 21 20:31
XFaCEyepFeb 21 20:32
Formic_who are youFeb 21 20:32
XFaCEXFaCEFeb 21 20:32
Formic_the darknet #cjdns?Feb 21 20:32
XFaCEefnetFeb 21 20:33
Formic_i was asking about subluminalFeb 21 20:33
XFaCEsubluminal?Feb 21 20:37
XFaCEXFaCE: Feb 21 20:37
XFaCEhmmFeb 21 20:37
Formic_yeah its the irc on darknet with the ipv6 addressFeb 21 20:38
Formic_if your on efnet you're not actually using cjdnsFeb 21 20:38
XFaCEFormic_: At the moment, noFeb 21 20:39
XFaCEI do actually have it set up thoFeb 21 20:40
DaemonFCAT&T is going to finally roll out some kind of ipv6 solution later this yearFeb 21 20:40
DaemonFCthey haven't said what yetFeb 21 20:41
XFaCEDaemonFC: You don't need ipv6 to use CJDNSFeb 21 20:41
Formic_you should hang out on the darknetFeb 21 20:41
XFaCEFormic_: I shouldFeb 21 20:41
XFaCESo let's seeFeb 21 20:41
Formic_cjdns requires ipv6 but it creates its own network for itFeb 21 20:41
XFaCEI2P, TOR, and CJDNS onFeb 21 20:41
XFaCEand OpenNICFeb 21 20:42
XFaCEDecentralization completeFeb 21 20:42
Formic_you get an ipv6 address with no location specific info attached to it, just a meshFeb 21 20:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @glynmoody Staph Turns into Drug-Resistant Superbug on Farms - http://bit.ly/A9Hvvj stupidity born of greed will kill people in the ...Feb 21 20:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Staph Turns into Drug-Resistant Superbug on Farms | Observations, Scientific American Blog Network .::. Size~: 88.24 KBFeb 21 20:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Time to ban prophylactic antibiotics for livestock? Yet? Huh? Is anybody paying attention!!!!????Feb 21 20:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] "Staph Turns into Drug-Resistant Superbug on Farms | Observations, Scientific American Blog Network" http://ur1.ca/8akme Feb 21 20:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] "OpenHatch - Community tools for free and open source software" https://openhatch.org/ Feb 21 20:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Staph Turns into Drug-Resistant Superbug on Farms | Observations, Scientific American Blog Network .::. Size~: 88.24 KBFeb 21 20:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @rms Obama Wants War http://ur1.ca/8ak6iFeb 21 20:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @djdexter "The greatest enemy of freedom is a happy slave" !gnu !fsfFeb 21 20:53
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DaemonFChttps://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9224451/Google_Microsoft_butt_heads_over_IE_privacy_skirting?taxonomyId=84Feb 21 20:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google, Microsoft butt heads over IE privacy skirting - Computerworld .::. Size~: 137.52 KBFeb 21 20:53
cubezzzI'd say Google and Microsoft butt heads on everythingFeb 21 20:54
XFaCEDaemonFC: Smear smear smear, lalalala, smear smear smear, lalalalaFeb 21 20:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @linuxhq #linux Ubuntu Linux Unveiled for Android Phones: In a significant step, Canonical has announced an Android versi... http://t ...Feb 21 20:55
DaemonFCWhetstone went on to say that Google has "been open about our approach" to P3P, and said Microsoft itself had recommended using invalid P3P codes as a work-around for a problem in IE. "This recommendation was a major reason that many of the 11,176 websites provided different code to the one requested by Microsoft," she said.Feb 21 20:56
XFaCEThe only quality standard you expect from Microsoft (R)Feb 21 20:58
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cubezzzMicrowhat? :)Feb 21 21:03
cubezzzI seem to have forgotten Feb 21 21:03
XFaCEMicrosoft (R): We at least one standard correctly. (C)Feb 21 21:04
XFaCEDaemonFC: UDFFeb 21 21:04
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XFaCEoh now I remember,Feb 21 21:06
XFaCEWe were arguing with fewt about ,netFeb 21 21:06
XFaCEFormic_: Hard to keep track of all these arguments. :OFeb 21 21:06
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DaemonFCApparently XFS is not currently offered by the Fedora 17 installerFeb 21 21:10
DaemonFCouchFeb 21 21:10
DaemonFCI hope that's a bug (It probably is, XFS is largely maintained by Red Hat and a lot of their customers use it)Feb 21 21:10
DaemonFCThey call it Microsoft Live FilesystemFeb 21 21:11
MinceRwhatFeb 21 21:11
DaemonFCaside from the rebranding of UDF, yes Windows implements it wellFeb 21 21:11
DaemonFCoh, I was talking to XFaCEFeb 21 21:11
DaemonFCoopsFeb 21 21:11
MinceRoh, i thought you meant RH calls XFS thatFeb 21 21:11
DaemonFCnoFeb 21 21:11
DaemonFCXFS is still called SGI XFS by the kernel because unless they do that, then they can't use SGI's trademarks and would end up having to call it something elseFeb 21 21:12
DaemonFCoh well, it's not like the user ever sees thatFeb 21 21:12
DaemonFCunless they like going through kernel logsFeb 21 21:12
XFaCEDaemonFC: currently using xfs actruallyFeb 21 21:13
DaemonFCLinux 3.3 will see the XFS driver have a net shrink by several thousand linesFeb 21 21:14
DaemonFCthey're removing the old logging code and a bunch of other crap that's been taken over by the vfsFeb 21 21:14
DaemonFCit's less than half the size it was when it was mergedFeb 21 21:14
sebsebseb_Goblin: schestowitz hi just doing some stuff with DIsaporaFeb 21 21:20
schestowitzIn saw..Feb 21 21:21
schestowitz*I sawFeb 21 21:21
sebsebsebschestowitz: it's a bit  confussing, where do I see all the mesages?Feb 21 21:21
sebsebsebI can see for peopleFeb 21 21:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Canonical develops a version of Ubuntu that runs on Android to provide full desktop on monitors (PCWorld): http://bit.ly/vZdRN7Feb 21 21:26
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DaemonFCsomeone needs to figure out how to kill KIO Magnet in a fireFeb 21 21:27
DaemonFCand trick KDE to opening it with a helper applicationFeb 21 21:28
DaemonFCthis is one bizarre case where Firefox not properly integrating with the rest of the system actually works in its favorFeb 21 21:28
schestowitz"Running Ubuntu 10.04 LTS here... my absolute favorite distro of all time. Ubuntu abandoning gnome 2 in favor of unity for me is devistating. I absolutely HATE unity! I am thinking about switching to debian when support is up on 10.04 which makes me sad as I've loved and used Ubuntu for so long! :-( " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1325925Feb 21 21:29
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ubuntu: you’re doing it wrong http://dehype.org/2012/ubuntu-design/ #ubuntu #gnu #linuxFeb 21 21:29
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DaemonFChe could just upgrade to 12.04, install gnome-sessionFeb 21 21:29
DaemonFChe's have the shell from GNOME 3.2.2 and most of the applications from 3.4 by the time it shipsFeb 21 21:29
sebsebsebschestowitz: I think I'll mainly stick to using IdenticaFeb 21 21:29
DaemonFC*he'dFeb 21 21:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ZTE announces its all Nvidia Mimosa X smartphone http://ur1.ca/8akwoFeb 21 21:30
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DaemonFCUbuntu has gone out of their way to punish people who want to use the real GNOMEFeb 21 21:30
DaemonFCsticking them with a poorly supported GNOME Shell that's barely maintainedFeb 21 21:30
DaemonFCmalfeatures from Unity creep into your applications even when you're running them in GNOME ShellFeb 21 21:31
DaemonFCetc.Feb 21 21:31
sebsebsebDaemonFC: people can move to other distros :) if they don't like the Gnome Shell that Ubuntu offerFeb 21 21:31
sebsebseband if they want to use thatFeb 21 21:31
sebsebsebDaemonFC: in fact running Ubuntu is a bit pointlless most of the time now when compared to other distros, unless going to run Unity, or Ubuntu One, or buy stuff from the software centre, that's how I see itFeb 21 21:31
DaemonFCyou end up with those ridiculous overlay scrollbars even under the shellFeb 21 21:32
DaemonFCand notify-osdFeb 21 21:32
DaemonFCa plus is that indicators don't workFeb 21 21:32
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 21:32
DaemonFCUbuntu still doesn't have Firefox or Thunderbird using overlay scrollbarsFeb 21 21:32
DaemonFCand LibreOffice still doesn't use the global menuFeb 21 21:32
DaemonFCso there's some really frustrating inconsistencies in Unity that is acting to undermine their stated goals for itFeb 21 21:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Daily Bell - Elites Blow Up #Greece on Purpose? http://goo.gl/s3NhQ #collapse #tptbFeb 21 21:33
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sebsebsebjono: What do you think?  Is DaemonFC Ubuntu's biggest fan? :DFeb 21 21:33
DaemonFCI still say if KDE is Project Timelord in Ubuntu, then Unity is Project DalekFeb 21 21:34
DaemonFCEXTERMINATE!!!Feb 21 21:34
DaemonFCEXTERMINATE!Feb 21 21:34
DaemonFCPAID SUPPORT FOR KUBUNTU HAS BEEN EX TER MIN ATED!!!!Feb 21 21:34
DaemonFCUN I TY IS SU PERIOR!!!!!Feb 21 21:34
DaemonFCthey send Dalek Jono out with his freaking death ray on one side and toilet plunger on the other to announce their victoryFeb 21 21:35
DaemonFCand of course, HE OBEYS!Feb 21 21:35
DaemonFC;)Feb 21 21:35
MinceR:>Feb 21 21:36
schestowitz"OMG, that sounds so ridiculous in spanish xD " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1326884Feb 21 21:36
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #ZTE announces its all Nvidia Mimosa X smartphone http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2153881/zte-announces-nvidia-mimosa-smartphoneFeb 21 21:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] What's new in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.8 (The H) http://ur1.ca/8akyyFeb 21 21:36
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*DaemonFC deactivates Dalek Jono with his sonic screwdriver and announces Unity is EOL and to report to Kubuntu for UPGRADESFeb 21 21:37
DaemonFC;)Feb 21 21:38
DaemonFCyou know, the Doctor would have no trouble with UnityFeb 21 21:38
DaemonFCcause he wouldn't have to deal with the stupid GUIFeb 21 21:38
DaemonFChe'd just point his sonic screwdriver at the computer and make it do whatever he wantedFeb 21 21:38
DaemonFCjono: How's the X11 support for sonic screwdrivers coming along?Feb 21 21:39
DaemonFCyou can even brand it ScrewU or somethingFeb 21 21:39
*MinceR points the sonic screwdriver at the computerFeb 21 21:39
DaemonFCB-)Feb 21 21:39
MinceR"install fedora"Feb 21 21:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] VA could give Microsoft Office the boot http://ur1.ca/8akzn #msoFeb 21 21:40
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DaemonFCof course, ScrewU will only happen after Red Hat puts support for sonic screwdrivers in XFeb 21 21:40
schestowitzMinceR: you can wear oneFeb 21 21:43
MinceR:>Feb 21 21:43
MinceRschestowitz: i don't like hatsFeb 21 21:43
schestowitzwhat about hair?Feb 21 21:43
MinceRi prefer to keep it shortFeb 21 21:43
MinceRand the heaviest thing i tend to wear is a baseball cap :>Feb 21 21:43
schestowitzMinceR: that's what Ballmer saidFeb 21 21:44
MinceRewFeb 21 21:44
schestowitz[21:43] <MinceR> i prefer to keep it shortFeb 21 21:44
schestowitzthe hairFeb 21 21:44
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1326244 "Do you mean surface modelling or molecular surface modelling, or something else? Sounds interesting. Is that where your interest in Linux and FOSS comes from - free and Free tools for doing your research? "Feb 21 21:45
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Finished the 15-page report today (ERC), resuming experiments on the new server with 12 GB of RAM. Thanks to #Linux !Feb 21 21:45
schestowitzThe job requires operating computational servers to run the code and also share codeFeb 21 21:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] I think we know the answer to that one...Feb 21 21:46
sebsebsebschestowitz: where's my like proper itme line on Disapora or whateveR?Feb 21 21:48
DaemonFClmaoFeb 21 21:52
DaemonFCI hid my laser tanks behind a building in War Commander and they fried someone's tanks before they could attack my baseFeb 21 21:52
Formic_I was playing red alert 2 and I was stuck on a mission, so I gave my tesla tanks the eiffel tower bolt as a weaponFeb 21 21:54
schestowitz"@Trevor - that's why I currently use Xubuntu, which sticks to XFCE. Very nice alternative for Gnome 2 lovers ... take a look and see for yourself if you like. I always use LTS versions of Xubuntu and other distros for stability matters. " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1325925Feb 21 21:55
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ubuntu: you’re doing it wrong http://dehype.org/2012/ubuntu-design/ #ubuntu #gnu #linuxFeb 21 21:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Detonate the transparency grenade to instantly collect and leak sensitive data (GizMag): http://bit.ly/ylEbsDFeb 21 21:56
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schestowitznice https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1326953Feb 21 21:57
TechrightsBot-trNot a Diaspora post?Feb 21 21:57
sebsebsebschestowitz: are there any clients for Disapora?Feb 21 22:04
sebsebsebschestowitz: web interface is to much like Facebook realyFeb 21 22:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Ubuntu For Android Turns Your Smartphone Into A Real Computer - Gotta Be Mobile http://ping.fm/L0kAkFeb 21 22:05
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qu1j0t3anybody played with the new vlc 2.0?Feb 21 22:06
Formic_its sickFeb 21 22:07
Formic_:)Feb 21 22:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Lightweight Portable Security (LPS) 1.3.2 is out http://ur1.ca/4r1br #government #gnu #linuxFeb 21 22:08
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sebsebsebschestowitz: that's twice on me now, disapora giving me over capacity pageFeb 21 22:12
schestowitzyeahFeb 21 22:13
schestowitzalso chews up my postsFeb 21 22:13
schestowitzlost workFeb 21 22:13
sebsebsebfewt:  nice cloak :) here as wellFeb 21 22:13
schestowitznot good, they should handle this by leaving it in the web formFeb 21 22:13
sebsebsebschestowitz: Well I  will mainly continue using Identica :)Feb 21 22:14
sebsebsebI know can send to both sites, with a program, but uhFeb 21 22:14
sebsebsebschestowitz: also might get a Googlehype laterFeb 21 22:14
sebsebsebwell thinking about itFeb 21 22:14
sebsebsebsince not done so, so far and yeahFeb 21 22:14
sebsebsebapparnatly Google+ is mainly computer people now as well or somethingFeb 21 22:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Big Data to be more pervasive than even McKinsey predicts (Nodeable Blog): http://bit.ly/yshX1pFeb 21 22:15
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tessierI should get involved in Google+ more, perhaps.Feb 21 22:16
sebsebsebtessier: Why?Feb 21 22:16
sebsebsebalso we have way to many social networking sites in a way nowFeb 21 22:17
tessierI dunno, just to see what's going on there.Feb 21 22:17
tessierTrue.Feb 21 22:17
sebsebsebtessier: oh you don't have an account?Feb 21 22:17
sebsebseband yep  bingo I avoided the hype so far and  didn't get an account, but since then it's all died down andFeb 21 22:17
tessierI do have an account. Tied to the wrong email address, unfortunately. But I'm not active at all there.Feb 21 22:17
sebsebsebwell could be worth seeing what Google+ is aboutFeb 21 22:17
sebsebsebeven if not really going to be using it muchFeb 21 22:17
sebsebsebtessier: yeah I am staying with Identica :)Feb 21 22:17
sebsebsebgot a Facebook as well, but uh hardly ever use that, well I do kind of, but that's to see what people are putting on thereFeb 21 22:18
qu1j0t3Formic_: right, i can get 720p and almost 1080p on my powerpc gear. previously not close to 720p.Feb 21 22:18
qu1j0t3Formic_: just audio dropouts are a problem...Feb 21 22:18
sebsebseband Twitter can't have  this  name on it anyway, got another, but don't use thatFeb 21 22:18
sebsebsebtessier: I like the idea of using the open sites though :) so IdenticaFeb 21 22:18
sebsebseband well yeah sometimes Disapora as well evenFeb 21 22:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] With Push for OS X Focus, #CUPS Printing May Suffer On Other Platforms - Slashdot http://goo.gl/mBFKG #dirtytricks #appleFeb 21 22:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @mcnalu: I look for the SHIT in people - Sincerity Honesty Integrity and TrustFeb 21 22:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Geek Girls aren’t aliens http://ping.fm/LJFrgFeb 21 22:26
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Formic_[17:16] <qu1j0t3> Formic_: right, i can get 720p and almost 1080p on my powerpc gear. previously not close to 720p.Feb 21 22:27
Formic_I like the UIFeb 21 22:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Ubuntu For Android Demo [Video] http://identi.ca/url/66976707Feb 21 22:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] I either have #rhinovirus or something similarly !disturbingFeb 21 22:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @cwebber I hate associating free software with a dental routine they feel guilty about not doing even though they know they should.Feb 21 22:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Oracle's Java Claims Now Down To $230 Million - Slashdot http://goo.gl/KRkKt #patentsFeb 21 22:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Three ways to view your @instagram photos online (word, 2010): http://bit.ly/AxV9JSFeb 21 22:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] How to Kickstart an !OpenSource Music Revolution with CASH Music | Linux.com http://goo.gl/Z5uJvFeb 21 22:33
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DaemonFCSeamonkey users that are still using the old and long unmaintained 2.0.x must upgrade to 2.7 before 2.8 if they want their profile converted to the new formatFeb 21 22:34
DaemonFCif they jump from 2.0 to 2.8, it will flag the existing profile as corrupt and start a new oneFeb 21 22:34
DaemonFCsupport for the conversion is droppedFeb 21 22:34
DaemonFCOracle's lawsuit against Google never had much merit to it (if any) to begin withFeb 21 22:36
DaemonFCJ2ME is crap, Google developed something much better that uses far fewer resources but still supports the Java languageFeb 21 22:36
DaemonFC(Dalvik)Feb 21 22:37
DaemonFCone of the things that Sun did that Oracle is continuing to do is confuse people by talking about several very different things and labeling them all JavaFeb 21 22:37
DaemonFCThere's Java the language, Java the security model, and Java the virtual machineFeb 21 22:38
DaemonFCDalvik is Java the language with a better security model and a faster and more efficient virtual machineFeb 21 22:38
DaemonFCI think it probably scares Oracle how much better Dalvik really isFeb 21 22:38
MinceRthere was also a Java GNU/Linux distroFeb 21 22:40
MinceR(Java Desktop System or whatever)Feb 21 22:41
DaemonFCJ2ME is supposedly Java for mobile systems, but there were some really bad compromises made to trim it down like that and  the applets that run on it are therefore not very useful because the functionality either doesn't exist in J2ME to implement them, or because implementing those features would cause most of the target platforms to fall over and dieFeb 21 22:41
MinceRand there's a JavaScript ;)Feb 21 22:41
DaemonFCMinceR: Java Desktop was not JavaFeb 21 22:41
DaemonFCit was a branding thingFeb 21 22:41
DaemonFCit was GNOMEFeb 21 22:41
MinceRwasn't that your point? :>Feb 21 22:41
DaemonFCwell, kind of, but I'm talking about Java the JavaFeb 21 22:41
MinceRlolFeb 21 22:41
DaemonFCnot Java the GNOME and Java the ECMA ScriptFeb 21 22:41
DaemonFC;)Feb 21 22:42
DaemonFCand "Java Desktop System" was never for LinuxFeb 21 22:42
DaemonFCit was for Solaris 10Feb 21 22:42
MinceRoh.Feb 21 22:42
DaemonFCin Solaris 11 GNOME is just called GNOMEFeb 21 22:42
MinceRdid it ever run on slowlaris? :)Feb 21 22:42
fewtJava Desktop, that was the GNOME fesktop for Slowlaris wasn't it?Feb 21 22:42
DaemonFCyepFeb 21 22:42
fewthey look at that :)Feb 21 22:43
fewtfesktop hehFeb 21 22:43
DaemonFCSun and Oracle went all out with the stupid and inappropriate labeling of everything with the Java nameFeb 21 22:43
fewtSun contributed a significant amount to the GNOME HIG though.Feb 21 22:43
DaemonFCincluding rebranding software they didn't even writeFeb 21 22:43
DaemonFCit's worse than Microsoft and the .NET marketing crapFeb 21 22:43
MinceRfewt: did they do the copy-paste from crApple's HIG, then? :>Feb 21 22:44
DaemonFCoh, lets rename things that have nothing to do with the CLI and existed before the CLI ".NET"Feb 21 22:44
fewtno, they moved the apply, save, cancel buttons around so it was different.Feb 21 22:45
fewttrololoFeb 21 22:45
fewt:DFeb 21 22:45
DaemonFCyou got your .NET the CLI, .NET the "Passport" (competing with OpenID), .NET the Messenger (formerly known as MSN)Feb 21 22:45
DaemonFC.NET the Server (which they dropped and called it Windows 2003)Feb 21 22:45
MinceRi thought they were already in random orderFeb 21 22:45
fewthehFeb 21 22:46
DaemonFCMinceR: Microsoft let their passport.net domain expire at one pointFeb 21 22:46
MinceRlolFeb 21 22:46
DaemonFCand someone bought it for them and handed it overFeb 21 22:46
MinceR:(Feb 21 22:46
DaemonFCso Microsoft sent them $500 as a "thank you"Feb 21 22:46
DaemonFCbut while that domain was in their possession they could have had a lot of fun with Windows usersFeb 21 22:47
DaemonFCincluding stealing logins, identity fraud, spreading malware....Feb 21 22:47
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 22:47
MinceRthey just decided to leave that to the pros ;)Feb 21 22:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 21/2/2012: Ubuntu for Android, Apache 2.4 http://ur1.ca/8am00 #techrightsFeb 21 22:48
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DaemonFCSweaty Steve tried to say that you needed to be a computer scientist to use Android. My 54 year old mother whose VCR used to blink 12:00 can use Android.Feb 21 22:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Apache 2.4 Takes Direct Aim At #Nginx - Slashdot http://goo.gl/gTbKT #floss competition = much better technologyFeb 21 22:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] Handset cohabitation: Ubuntu for Android http://ur1.ca/8am3yFeb 21 22:50
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MinceRi guess that means that your 54 year old mother knows more about IT than SweatyBFeb 21 22:50
MinceRseems to make senseFeb 21 22:50
DaemonFCSweaty Steve is less qualified to run a software company than my momFeb 21 22:50
MinceRusing a smartphone has more to do with it than screaming, sweating, jumping around and throwing chairsFeb 21 22:50
DaemonFCwell, that may be what you do when you have a Windows PhoneFeb 21 22:51
DaemonFCbut ideally, noFeb 21 22:51
MinceR:>Feb 21 22:51
DaemonFCMinceR: It took very little to teach my mom how to use an Android tabletFeb 21 22:52
DaemonFCthey're designed for people to just start them up and use themFeb 21 22:52
DaemonFCand they accomplished that Feb 21 22:52
fewtSteve B didn't make a good leader, Bill was better but more ruthless.Feb 21 22:55
fewtworse for the community, better from a pure money making machine standpointFeb 21 22:55
MinceRonly if only the short term matters :>Feb 21 22:56
MinceRi doubt there's a lot of lifespan left in m$Feb 21 22:56
DaemonFCwell, they need to be more intelligent and less brutishFeb 21 22:57
DaemonFCthat starts with getting rid of BallmerFeb 21 22:57
MinceRtoo late for it nowFeb 21 22:57
MinceRthey've got too much baggage and no valuesFeb 21 22:57
DaemonFCwell, they have a 5 year planFeb 21 22:58
DaemonFCchange the desktop theme again and call it Windows 8Feb 21 22:58
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 22:58
MinceRlolFeb 21 22:58
DaemonFCsue more Android companiesFeb 21 22:58
DaemonFChttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=689437Feb 21 23:00
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fewtI have a feeling they will be around for a long time to comeFeb 21 23:01
fewtin one form or anotherFeb 21 23:01
fewtthey still hold the keys to the killer appsFeb 21 23:01
fewtOffice and VisioFeb 21 23:01
fewt(both office components I suppose)Feb 21 23:01
MinceRi think they're overratedFeb 21 23:02
DaemonFCaside from the lock-in effect of non standard file formats...Feb 21 23:02
MinceRalso, i'm not sure if they will be able to manage dropping most of their peopleFeb 21 23:02
DaemonFCI don't see the justification to continue using Microsoft OfficeFeb 21 23:02
MinceR(behind all the failed products and services)Feb 21 23:03
MinceRand yes, i don't see any point using m$ office other than dealing with people who for some reason stubbornly insist on locking their data into their broken closed formatsFeb 21 23:04
fewtThe people in positions of power to make those decisions though are the ones that keep latching on.Feb 21 23:04
cubezzzmehFeb 21 23:04
fewtTBH - Visio has no viable replacementFeb 21 23:04
fewtthe others, mehFeb 21 23:04
DaemonFCfewt: You mean the Pointy Haired BossFeb 21 23:04
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 23:04
fewtI doFeb 21 23:04
MinceRi had no problem making diagrams without visioFeb 21 23:04
fewtfor a c-level?Feb 21 23:04
MinceRwhat's a "c-level"?Feb 21 23:04
cubezzzthere were flowchart programs before VisioFeb 21 23:04
fewtceo, cto, cso, cioFeb 21 23:05
fewtcooFeb 21 23:05
cubezzztrying to remember what they were called...Feb 21 23:05
fewtcubezzz I don't disagree.Feb 21 23:05
MinceRi think they could learn using Dia, for exampleFeb 21 23:05
MinceRif not Graphviz :)Feb 21 23:05
fewtDia is OK, LibreOffice Draw is terribleFeb 21 23:05
cubezzzI'll write one :)Feb 21 23:05
fewt+Feb 21 23:05
fewtI don't have any exposure to kivio, at least not in recent yearsFeb 21 23:06
fewtmaybe it's OK now, IDK.Feb 21 23:06
DaemonFCthere's always Krita and Karbon14Feb 21 23:06
MinceRneither do iFeb 21 23:06
cubezzzdid KDE 3.5.10 have one?Feb 21 23:06
fewtkoffice had kivio if I remember correctly, but I think it was renamedFeb 21 23:06
MinceRi think it had kivio back thenFeb 21 23:07
MinceRapparently it's called Calligra Flow nowFeb 21 23:07
fewtI just use Visio, it's well worth the moneyFeb 21 23:07
fewtMinceR I'll take a look at itFeb 21 23:07
MinceRi just use Dia, it's well worth the effort :)Feb 21 23:07
DaemonFCfewt: Calligra Flow?Feb 21 23:07
cubezzzI guess Kivio was post KDE 3.5.10?Feb 21 23:07
DaemonFCthat's what you're talking about Feb 21 23:07
DaemonFCKivio was renamed to FlowFeb 21 23:07
fewtI'm kind of choosy though, since I give presentations to VPs and Clevels sometimes.Feb 21 23:08
MinceRthough eventually i'd just let the computer decide where to put the blobs, via graphvizFeb 21 23:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 21/2/2012: Ubuntu for Android, Apache 2.4 http://ur1.ca/8am00 #techrightsFeb 21 23:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How Ubuntu started (true story) http://ur1.ca/8ambb #ubuntuFeb 21 23:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] On Anniversary of Prank Call the Real David Koch Wants to "Stop Union Power" in Wisconsin http://goo.gl/59x8s #koch #fraudFeb 21 23:08
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fewtscreenshots of flow look pretty nice, I guess I have something to play with.Feb 21 23:09
fewt:DFeb 21 23:09
fewttilFeb 21 23:09
cubezzzthere's kig but I never got that to work :-/Feb 21 23:09
MinceRkig is for geometry though, isn't it?Feb 21 23:10
MinceRmostly euclideanFeb 21 23:10
cubezzzyesFeb 21 23:10
cubezzzit's all geometry :)Feb 21 23:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Oh-oh...early-bird pricing for @DrupalCon Denver ends today! Save some money and register at: ow.ly/9cCCV #drupalFeb 21 23:11
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cubezzzthere's diaFeb 21 23:17
cubezzzgnome programFeb 21 23:18
DaemonFChttp://money.cnn.com/2008/03/24/pf/taxes/zero_taxes.moneymag/index.htmFeb 21 23:24
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DaemonFChehFeb 21 23:24
MinceRdia's been mentioned a couple times :>Feb 21 23:33
MinceRgnFeb 21 23:33
DaemonFCI still wonder who thought the clownshoes titlebars in GNOME were a good ideaFeb 21 23:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "The greatest enemy of freedom is a happy slave"Feb 21 23:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Amazon may launch 10-inch Kindle Fire in Q2, new color E Ink reader next month http://goo.gl/LXZK3 #linux #androidFeb 21 23:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Leaked DROID RAZR Ice Cream Sandwich Build Shows What We Can Expect in the Next Version of Blur http://goo.gl/n8vPQ #linuxFeb 21 23:38
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DaemonFChttp://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/17-Alpha.RC3/Live/x86_64/Feb 21 23:40
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DaemonFCFedora 17 Alpha RC3Feb 21 23:40
schestowitzyeahFeb 21 23:40
schestowitzwhen was rc2 out/Feb 21 23:40
schestowitzI saw rc1Feb 21 23:40
schestowitzgive it a runFeb 21 23:41
schestowitztake screenshotsFeb 21 23:41
XFaCEprurigro is back! yayFeb 21 23:41
prurigrolol thxthxFeb 21 23:42
schestowitzhiss booo!! :)Feb 21 23:43
DaemonFCmeh, Kubuntu 12.04 is gearing up to be pretty goodFeb 21 23:44
DaemonFCthey finally tossed Kopete Feb 21 23:44
DaemonFCthe other dayFeb 21 23:44
DaemonFCschestowitz: The ISOs for Fedora are usually up before the announcementsFeb 21 23:45
DaemonFCespecially with test onesFeb 21 23:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] What's this, a #LibrePlanet2012 schedule with everyone's names and talks and times and stuff? Oh yeah... http://ur1.ca/8amov !gnu !fsf !lpFeb 21 23:46
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DaemonFCKopete is aging poorlyFeb 21 23:47
DaemonFCKDE Telepathy still has some work to be done, but sharing code is usually better than duplicating effortFeb 21 23:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] LP2012 Schedule! http://libreplanet.org/wiki/LibrePlanet2012/Schedule !gnu !fsf !lp !cc !linux !ubuntu -- look at all these great speakersFeb 21 23:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ereaders are all #linux http://goo.gl/Pd7yL #androidFeb 21 23:51
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schestowitzDaemonFC: fewt might wanna try itFeb 21 23:52
schestowitzto plan ahead for next fudbuntuFeb 21 23:52
prurigroschestowitz, :( lolFeb 21 23:52
schestowitzthe mono-lss fubuntu :-pFeb 21 23:52
fewtfudbuntu trololo :PFeb 21 23:52
schestowitzoopsFeb 21 23:52
schestowitzbad habitFeb 21 23:52
schestowitznot intentionalFeb 21 23:52
fewtI'm just poking fun at itFeb 21 23:53
schestowitznot sure why I ever thought it was fudbuntuFeb 21 23:53
schestowitzfudcon maybeFeb 21 23:53
fewtdunno, could beFeb 21 23:53
fewtIt is an awful name, which is why I like it so.Feb 21 23:53
schestowitzread  http://dehype.org/2012/ubuntu-design/Feb 21 23:54
DaemonFComgcheescakesucksbuntuFeb 21 23:54
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DaemonFCor whateverFeb 21 23:54
schestowitzFab rips Canonical a new holeFeb 21 23:54
schestowitzhe also takes on jonoFeb 21 23:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Uh-oh... looks like LibrePlanet has been #rangoed :( http://i.imgur.com/rbuww.png (via @donaldrobertsoniii)Feb 21 23:55
DaemonFCDalek Jono will EX-TER-MIN-ATE!!!!!Feb 21 23:55
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/90957699Feb 21 23:56
TechrightsBot-tr@Jose R Rodriguez (metztli)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Feb-12 23:51:33 UTC - Identi.ca: #Walker's recall election:…whether or not Americans'll allow[]to bear blame & the brunt of #WallStreet financial crisis http://goo.gl/59x8sFeb 21 23:56
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schestowitzover 50 submissions of mine got promoted to http://digg.com/newsrooms/opensource todayFeb 21 23:57
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schestowitzall-time recordFeb 21 23:57
fewtDaemonFC Fuduntu is the official Linux distribution of OMG Cheesecake.Feb 21 23:57
fewt:DFeb 21 23:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Am I correct in thinking what you find repulsive is that "Mein Kampf" is still earning royalties, @bananabob ?Feb 21 23:58
fewtCanonical seems to be doing so many questionable things.  I guess their resources are theirs to waste, but they could be doing so many better things with their engineering moneys.Feb 21 23:59
DaemonFCOMG Cheesecake FUDbuntuFeb 21 23:59
fewtLike fixing all the bugsFeb 21 23:59
fewtDaemonFC someone called it Distro of FUD once, that was pretty funny.Feb 21 23:59

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