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| fewt | The name seems to make people rage for no good reason. | Feb 22 00:00 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Why can't they just leave our conference alone? http://i.imgur.com/rbuww.png #rangoed !lp :( | Feb 22 00:00 | |
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| fewt | :) | Feb 22 00:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] g'night @kevie !tzaf | Feb 22 00:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @m4nima1 Anonymous says power grid not a target - http://goo.gl/sntfg | Feb 22 00:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] I find it really abhorrent that in order to promote the DVD of Rango, Paramount has inserted clips of it into the schedule for #LP2012 | Feb 22 00:01 | |
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| fewt | Unfortunately, like most opinion pieces that try to get their attention, the comments will probably be riddled with things like PaidM$$hill, etc. | Feb 22 00:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz #Ereaders are all #linux http://goo.gl/Pd7yL #android | Feb 22 00:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @thistleweb What on earth does a hamburger like? Any girl named patty! | Feb 22 00:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Barnes & Noble announces $199 Nook Tablet, $169 Nook ColorAndroidGuys .::. Size~: 50.49 KB | Feb 22 00:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♻ @paulwhoisaghost Why no printers in Star Trek? Because printers are shit and the people of the future are bright enough to realise this. | Feb 22 00:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Clustered #NoSQL database Riak gets administration console http://ur1.ca/8an35... http://b1t.it/aTyR | Feb 22 00:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Utah to Adopt Open Source Textbooks http://goo.gl/AykNE #openaccess | Feb 22 00:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♻ @cococorazonloco Copy This Drive sharing experiment Just go, plug in & copy Nick Briz' personal HDD http://www.ur1.ca/8an3j !copyright | Feb 22 00:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] “Crooks on the Loose? Did Felons Get a Free Pass in the Financial Crisis?“ http://goo.gl/gfhOR they just rebrand crime "business" | Feb 22 00:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: “Crooks on the Loose? Did Felons Get a Free Pass in the Financial Crisis? “ « naked capitalism .::. Size~: 153.08 KB | Feb 22 00:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Nooooooo :o @openattitude like the Insurance companies need more of our $ http://identi.ca/notice/90958349 | Feb 22 00:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz Utah to Adopt Open Source Textbooks http://goo.gl/AykNE #openaccess | Feb 22 00:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @schestowitz: Utah to Adopt Open Source Textbooks http://goo.gl/AykNE #openaccess | Feb 22 00:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Open attitude (openattitude)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-12 00:06:39 UTC - Identi.ca: Smart @evgenymorozov (on Twitter) proposal: Mandatory social media insurance. | http://slate.me/zmy9s via @FrankPasquale (Twitter) | Feb 22 00:11 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #SimplyMEPIS 11.0.12 Released http://ur1.ca/8an6t | Feb 22 00:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: SimplyMEPIS 11.0.12 Released | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 56.02 KB | Feb 22 00:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In the coming week Linux news will be obscured by Ubuntudroid hype, missing accurate analyses like this one http://goo.gl/Bt9zo | Feb 22 00:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu: you’re doing it wrong | Dehype .::. Size~: 151.19 KB | Feb 22 00:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What's new in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.8 http://goo.gl/VsVyZ #redhat #gnu #linu8x | Feb 22 00:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ...if Frank Frazetta's kids can live off his copyright, why not Hitler's? Imagine the horror of discovering Hitler was your father :( | Feb 22 00:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Lost Gospels. (Full Documentary) - YouTube http://goo.gl/zed0D #docs | Feb 22 00:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @tonybaldwin I hate it when I get killed by orcs... | Feb 22 00:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz #SimplyMEPIS 11.0.12 Released http://ur1.ca/8an6t | Feb 22 00:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: SimplyMEPIS 11.0.12 Released | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 56.03 KB | Feb 22 00:36 |
| DaemonFC | MEPIS sucks | Feb 22 00:48 |
| DaemonFC | in fact, Debian stable itself is crusty when it's released | Feb 22 00:49 |
| schestowitz | KRUSTY! | Feb 22 00:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] cryptogon » Nanotechnology Turns Plants into Common Plastic http://goo.gl/yBOik #peakoil #scitek | Feb 22 00:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] 200 lay judges in Sweden have been criminally investigated; 25 convicted still act as judges. http://t.co/aggIqKea #svpol | Feb 22 01:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Professors blogg: Sweden: POLITICALLY appointed lay judges to JUDGE Assange .::. Size~: 182.13 KB | Feb 22 01:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels now | Feb 22 01:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels now | Feb 22 01:13 | |
| DaemonFC | I rewrote magnet.protocol to get it to launch Transmission and pass it the link | Feb 22 01:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Government pressures Twitter to hand over keys to #Occupy Wall Street protester's location data without a warrant https://eff.org/r.2Tb #OWS | Feb 22 01:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Concerned about Google's new unified #privacy policy? Remove your Google Web History before it takes effect: https://eff.org/r.1Tc | Feb 22 02:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Special announcement: As a gesture of good faith I'm providing #TheCommunity with an extra 6 days to copy all my dents. #denticideispainless | Feb 22 02:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Sweden: Where there are no juries and untrained political party hacks are judges http://t.co/Gtnzt8FT #svpol | Feb 22 02:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Revised announcement: @bkuhn (and legions of interested others) shall have 8 days to copy currently nondestroyed dents. #denticideispainless | Feb 22 02:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Julian Assange, the world's first anti-Semitic Mossad agent http://t.co/zhEGPnGO via @jaraparilla | Feb 22 02:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jennifer Robinson: Legal threats & financial blockade are effectively censoring WikiLeaks | Green Left Weekly .::. Size~: 37.71 KB | Feb 22 02:51 |
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| scientes | DaemonFC, good for you | Feb 22 02:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Coming up next on @CNBC... @60Minutes: The Man Behind Wikileaks http://t.co/LWPB4NlS #60minutes | Feb 22 03:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Lol! http://ur1.ca/8aoza | Feb 22 03:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Would you like to help monitor the impact of WikiLeaks? Contact WikiLeaks Press http://t.co/VmasRf03 [do not contact for sourcing issues] | Feb 22 03:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RIP Pierre Juneau (89) the former #CBC prez the Juno Awards are named for. http://www.ur1.ca/8aozb Still, time to phase out #CANcon !CDNpoli | Feb 22 03:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: CBC/Radio-Canada | Press Room | News Releases | CBC launches CBC Music – Canada's free new digital music service .::. Size~: 11.58 KB | Feb 22 03:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Christine Assange: WikiLeaks took the mask off power | GLW http://t.co/MEHrg86B | Feb 22 03:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Christine Assange: WikiLeaks took the mask off power | Green Left Weekly .::. Size~: 36.59 KB | Feb 22 03:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] A Voice of Integrity in the Canadian Media Fired Again http://www.ur1.ca/8ap2z !CDNpoli #thewatchdogpressisdead | Feb 22 03:23 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: A Voice of Integrity in the Canadian Media Fired Again | Dissident Voice .::. Size~: 40.36 KB | Feb 22 03:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♻ @StephenCaggiano Um.....There is a G+ commercial on national TV. #UsGuys /via @ScribeTherapy | Feb 22 03:26 | |
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| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Woodpecker | Feb 22 03:29 |
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| DaemonFC | lol | Feb 22 03:29 |
| DaemonFC | and you thought your neighbors were being rude.... | Feb 22 03:30 |
| DaemonFC | the Russians built this damned thing and interfered with radio communications all over the world :) | Feb 22 03:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] US East Coast: #Assange on #60minutes now @CNBC | Feb 22 03:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wikileaks2 US East Coast: #Assange on #60minutes now @CNBC | Feb 22 03:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: #Acta: Warum wir eine Debatte über das Urheberrecht brauchen - Digital - sueddeutsche.de http://t.co/g8js http://p.ost.im/p/exy2pn | Feb 22 03:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: International Data Journalism Awards – Call for Entries http://t.co/BaLKTwri via @bb_liliana http://p.ost.im/p/e9Kmgd | Feb 22 03:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Feb 23: Bradley #Manning's arraignment, 1PM at Fort Meade. http://t.co/PZjNY0kd #WikiLeaks #FreeBrad | Feb 22 03:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bradley Manning Support Network » Bradley Manning to be arraigned at Fort Meade on Feb. 23 .::. Size~: 37.63 KB | Feb 22 03:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @MatHLa Voor 12 uur gaan slapen is voor overheidsmensen. Heus. | Feb 22 03:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] a sad day for Toronto, a city with an *excellent* public transit system: TTC GM Gary Webster fired http://www.ur1.ca/8apkm #WTF !CDNpoli | Feb 22 04:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: TTC GM Gary Webster fired - 680News .::. Size~: 49.01 KB | Feb 22 04:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I agree with @happy5214 "If there's someone actually willing to make and maintain those translations, then they should exist. " | Feb 22 04:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] But now I see that you are arguing LibreOffice policy, which would be a different conversation. | Feb 22 04:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ghostler/@ghostler] RT @schestowitz Utah to Adopt Open Source Textbooks http://goo.gl/AykNE #openaccess | Feb 22 04:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ghostler/@ghostler] RT @schestowitz #Ereaders are all #linux http://goo.gl/Pd7yL #android | Feb 22 04:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Barnes & Noble announces $199 Nook Tablet, $169 Nook ColorAndroidGuys .::. Size~: 50.49 KB | Feb 22 04:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @gomerx Figured out how to make Apache restart without me having to type in the SSL key passphrase. I feel smarter now. | Feb 22 04:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] congratulations @gomerx :) | Feb 22 04:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♻ @BethRiesgraf Gearing up to start filming season 5 of #Leverage ! w00t | Feb 22 04:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Really? You really like blackberry? | Feb 22 05:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Was almost going to put in email to UK colleagues "your long international nightmare is over", but decided they might not get it | Feb 22 05:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] When you have no credibility or substance, use any reference to fairy tales, I mean, religion, to silence debates - http://ur1.ca/8aq8x #fb | Feb 22 06:14 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Romney says Obama has 'fought against religion' - Yahoo! News .::. Size~: 358.93 KB | Feb 22 06:14 |
| Formic_ | Obama won't acknowledge the mighty invisible man in the sky! | Feb 22 06:15 |
| prurigro | except when he did that sermon for xmas | Feb 22 06:21 |
| Formic_ | thats just for show | Feb 22 06:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Please join the !spamreport group so you can report it. Someone will try to #silence spammers. | Feb 22 06:28 | |
| Formic_ | xmas is old sun worship day | Feb 22 06:35 |
| Formic_ | plus the strong evidence Obama was manufactured from the DNA of Egyptian pharoh Akhenaten | Feb 22 06:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @rootbrian I don't take lightly to commercial #spammers flooding the timeline with products and services nobody even wants or needs. | Feb 22 06:38 | |
| Formic_ | http://thefreemanperspective.blogspot.com/2009/02/barackhnaten-and-renaissance-tiye.html | Feb 22 06:39 |
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| prurigro | anyone around? | Feb 22 06:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] iPad Failures #apple #technology #programming #customerrelations http://wp.me/p1gQ8u-XN | Feb 22 07:05 | |
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| MinceR | yes | Feb 22 07:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Four ex-staff of government contractor #A4e bailed in #fraud probe http://goo.gl/Wuwz2 | Feb 22 07:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BBC News - Four ex-staff of government contractor A4e bailed in fraud probe .::. Size~: 65.34 KB | Feb 22 07:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Privacy-Centric Search Engine #Scroogle Shuts Down http://goo.gl/ORK4K | Feb 22 07:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Work experience scheme in disarray as #Tesco and other retailers change tack http://gu.com/p/35jjx #DWP | Feb 22 07:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] It never rains, it pours! damn you wednesday, you are the new monday. | Feb 22 07:35 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Work experience scheme in disarray as Tesco and other retailers change tack | Society | The Guardian .::. Size~: 122.46 KB | Feb 22 07:35 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @sankarshan http://bit.ly/yYRg52 Eclipse on ARM http://b1t.it/aTGZ | Feb 22 07:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @sankarshan http://bit.ly/yDrqAd Fedora 16 hidden feature - autojump http://b1t.it/aTGY | Feb 22 07:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #DOJ 'Streisands' Its Own Prosecutor By Requesting His Name Be Removed From An Unflattering Court Opinion http://goo.gl/C8FkM | Feb 22 07:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: DOJ 'Streisands' Its Own Prosecutor By Requesting His Name Be Removed From An Unflattering Court Opinion | Techdirt .::. Size~: 69.64 KB | Feb 22 07:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzag Identizens. | Feb 22 08:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @portenkirchner Todays Google Doodle pays tribute to Heinrich Hertz http://ur1.ca/8art6 ... | Feb 22 08:06 | |
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| prurigro | MinceR, ahh- missed your reply amongst the posts | Feb 22 08:13 |
| prurigro | how goes? | Feb 22 08:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @inscius: Christian Engström " Some Arguments Against #ACTA" http://ur1.ca/8arvt | Feb 22 08:25 | |
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| schestowitz | [06:35] <Formic_> xmas is old sun worship day | Feb 22 08:51 |
| schestowitz | the Sun rocks! | Feb 22 08:51 |
| prurigro | the sun molten* rocks! | Feb 22 08:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Introduction To The #LinuxMint Cinnamon Desktop http://ur1.ca/8askk #linux | Feb 22 08:58 | |
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| schestowitz | prurigro: the Sun is HOT! | Feb 22 09:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Millions of #linux tablets from a startup http://goo.gl/W9pLL #india | Feb 22 09:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: British firm develops £22 Aakash wireless tablet to plug 'affordability gap' in market | Mail Online .::. Size~: 99.6 KB | Feb 22 09:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How RIM could learn from Ubuntu, and why it needs to before it’s too late http://goo.gl/7KYLg #ubuntu #gnu | Feb 22 09:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Kiwi open sourcers invade Aus http://ur1.ca/8asqg #au #nz #foss | Feb 22 09:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How RIM could learn from Ubuntu, and why it needs to before it’s too late .::. Size~: 75.04 KB | Feb 22 09:05 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] W. H. Auden in Music - http://bit.ly/yTKAyi clever idea; I'm sure WH would have approved #spotify #poetry | Feb 22 09:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] NHMRC CEO supports #Elsevier boycott; says all research must be made # openaccess http://goo.gl/ffo9D #sharing #knowledge | Feb 22 09:08 | |
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| MinceR | prurigro: i have a cold | Feb 22 09:10 |
| MinceR | but tonight i could breathe :> | Feb 22 09:11 |
| prurigro | MinceR, ack-- so on the upturn then? | Feb 22 09:11 |
| MinceR | yes | Feb 22 09:11 |
| schestowitz | Red Hat won't comment on the unitary patent | Feb 22 09:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] HP has open-source vision for 'orphan' webOS http://goo.gl/kIyPx #webos #linux | Feb 22 09:11 | |
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| schestowitz | " | Feb 22 09:11 |
| schestowitz | Earlier on I saw the article | Feb 22 09:11 |
| schestowitz | http://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/blog/2012/01/red-hat-weighs-in-on-internet-regulation.html | Feb 22 09:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Red Hat weighs in on Internet regulations - Triangle Business Journal .::. Size~: 86.9 KB | Feb 22 09:11 |
| schestowitz | Red Hat weighs in on Internet regulations | Feb 22 09:11 |
| schestowitz | The press release says that, according to Red Hat, a law change caused | Feb 22 09:11 |
| schestowitz | by SOPA and PIPA “reduces freedom of expression, increases cybersecurity | Feb 22 09:11 |
| schestowitz | risk, or undermines the dynamic, innovative global Internet." | Feb 22 09:12 |
| schestowitz | Currently, here in Europe, some members of the European Commission are | Feb 22 09:12 |
| schestowitz | trying to legalise software patents through the back door, the unitary | Feb 22 09:12 |
| schestowitz | patent. They are being deceived by people from the patents industry. | Feb 22 09:12 |
| schestowitz | Would it possible for Red Hat to also submit something to tackle this | Feb 22 09:12 |
| schestowitz | issue and inform members of parliament? Something to that effect that | Feb 22 09:12 |
| schestowitz | broadening the reach and scope of patents “reduces freedom of expression | Feb 22 09:12 |
| schestowitz | and undermines innovation"? Red Hat submitted some amici regarding cases | Feb 22 09:12 |
| schestowitz | such as In Re Bilski, but what about Europe? So my question is, what is | Feb 22 09:12 |
| schestowitz | Red Hat's take on the unitary patent in the EU? | Feb 22 09:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Mozilla to challenge big players in mobile web - http://bit.ly/AhQ8hU good to see it in the news #mobile #webapps | Feb 22 09:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mozilla to challenge big players in mobile web - San Jose Mercury News .::. Size~: 80.4 KB | Feb 22 09:13 |
| prurigro | MinceR, well that's good-- there've been a bunch going around, and frankly, they all suck- so recovery is a good plan =D | Feb 22 09:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Spark pre-orders closed! http://ur1.ca/8asvm some stats. #linux #kde #tablet | Feb 22 09:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] US lobbying waters down EU data protection reform - http://bit.ly/AkXqul why do the feeble twits in the EU keep rolling over? #privacy | Feb 22 09:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: aseigo: Spark pre-orders closed! .::. Size~: 70.94 KB | Feb 22 09:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: US lobbying waters down EU data protection reform | EurActiv .::. Size~: 83.89 KB | Feb 22 09:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How to Kickstart an Open Source Music Revolution with CASH Music - http://bit.ly/yigG4O interesting project | Feb 22 09:16 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How to Kickstart an Open Source Music Revolution with CASH Music | Linux.com .::. Size~: 46.49 KB | Feb 22 09:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Chrome kingpin Pichai promises Android upgrades http://ur1.ca/8asxh... http://b1t.it/aTJy | Feb 22 09:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ur1 Generator .::. Size~: 2.26 KB | Feb 22 09:18 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Feb 22 09:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Indian Government to assemble low cost #tablets on its own, kicks out Datawind - http://bit.ly/xpPldg wowk what a saga this is #india | Feb 22 09:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Novartis, Big Pharma, and their US and EU Surrogates Throw a Triple Punch at Indian Generics - http://bit.ly/wnwY8e this kills people #tpp | Feb 22 09:20 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Indian Government to assemble low cost tablets on its own, kicks out Datawind .::. Size~: 50.89 KB | Feb 22 09:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Novartis, Big Pharma, and their US and EU Surrogates Throw a Triple Punch at Indian Generics [by Professor Brook K. Baker] - Actup - Basel .::. Size~: 21.53 KB | Feb 22 09:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] German Constitutional Court confirms BGH's 'AnyDVD' copyright decision - http://bit.ly/AFz3gE good decision on linking #de | Feb 22 09:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu 12.04: Three new features sneak in to make things interesting http://ur1.ca/8aszb... http://b1t.it/aTJz | Feb 22 09:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The IPKat: German Constitutional Court confirms BGH's 'AnyDVD' copyright decision .::. Size~: 110.05 KB | Feb 22 09:21 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Canonical in damage control http://ur1.ca/8agd1 over Fab's post http://ur1.ca/89smi #ubuntu | Feb 22 09:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] France wants #GM crop banned in EU - http://bit.ly/wuhwyi "pose significant risks for the environment" #monsanto | Feb 22 09:26 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Criticism: You’re doing it wrong | Michael Hall's Blog .::. Size~: 62.09 KB | Feb 22 09:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu: you’re doing it wrong | Dehype .::. Size~: 157.06 KB | Feb 22 09:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: France wants GM crop banned in EU .::. Size~: 34.26 KB | Feb 22 09:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Will #KDE drop support for older graphics chips? http://ur1.ca/8at4h... http://b1t.it/aTJM | Feb 22 09:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ur1 Generator .::. Size~: 2.26 KB | Feb 22 09:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting application/xml; charset=utf-8 type | Feb 22 09:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A top UK judge has ruled that defendants can be summoned to court via Facebook - http://tnw.co/xPAVR9 #twitter next? | Feb 22 09:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: UK Judge Rules That Summons Can Be Served Via Facebook .::. Size~: 96.08 KB | Feb 22 09:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Court Orders ISP To Block #Grooveshark - http://bit.ly/A3rlTh hardly a surprise given current actions | Feb 22 09:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Who couldn’t use a little more screen space? http://ur1.ca/8at7b #linux | Feb 22 09:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Court Orders ISP To Block Grooveshark | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 32.82 KB | Feb 22 09:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Who couldn’t use a little more screen space? - Hack a Day .::. Size~: 62.01 KB | Feb 22 09:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.7 to 5.8 Risk Report http://goo.gl/zbGuQ not fake numbers like in Microsoft's | Feb 22 09:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.7 to 5.8 Risk Report .::. Size~: 33.36 KB | Feb 22 09:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] MT @Greg_Callus Donal Blaney was being maliciously impersonatd online & English court allowed service of injunction via Twitter | Feb 22 09:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] it depends on two things: availability of devices and whether the community would be ok with such commercial activities. | Feb 22 09:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU-Kommission: Vorratsdatenspeicherung “zu sensibel” für öffentliche Debatte - http://bit.ly/wNwRcF says it all #surveillance | Feb 22 09:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] i have thought about the possibility of doing something like that and donating proceeds to e.V. , though :) | Feb 22 09:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What Greg Does after leaving SUSE http://ur1.ca/8a199 #kernel #linux | Feb 22 09:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: EU-Kommission: Vorratsdatenspeicherung “zu sensibel” für öffentliche Debatte › netzpolitik.org .::. Size~: 68.78 KB | Feb 22 09:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: linux kernel monkey log .::. Size~: 12.35 KB | Feb 22 09:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Scared of Anonymous? NSA chief says you should be - http://cnet.co/zSmlmU scaremongering much? | Feb 22 09:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Scared of Anonymous? NSA chief says you should be | The Digital Home - CNET News .::. Size~: 71.7 KB | Feb 22 09:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Print any colour you like... - http://bit.ly/xu7XbM #reprap does colour #3dprinters | Feb 22 09:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] elgian Anti-Piracy Group Facing Copyright Fraud, Embezzlement & Money Laundering Charges http://goo.gl/oEz3g the *real* criminals | Feb 22 09:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: RepRap: Blog: Print any colour you like... .::. Size~: 30.46 KB | Feb 22 09:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Belgian Anti-Piracy Group Facing Copyright Fraud, Embezzlement & Money Laundering Charges | Techdirt .::. Size~: 85.3 KB | Feb 22 09:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Threat to Internet Freedom http://ur1.ca/8aj9n #UN fosters #censorship | Feb 22 09:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Robert McDowell: The U.N. Threat to Internet Freedom - WSJ.com .::. Size~: 176.31 KB | Feb 22 09:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Billionaire Romney donor uses threats to silence critics http://goo.gl/PjDgj not the first story of this kind. Sociopaths. Most dangerous. | Feb 22 09:45 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Billionaire Romney donor uses threats to silence critics - Salon.com .::. Size~: 120.1 KB | Feb 22 09:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Economics Minister Says ACTA Is Designed To Shut Down Child Porn Sites... Even Though That's Not True http://goo.gl/MAEJR #acta | Feb 22 09:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Dutch Economics Minister Says ACTA Is Designed To Shut Down Child Porn Sites... Even Though That's Not True | Techdirt .::. Size~: 135.9 KB | Feb 22 09:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New song: Khader Adnan, Bobby Sands http://ur1.ca/8atos #occupation | Feb 22 09:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Khader Adnan, Bobby Sands - YouTube .::. Size~: 129.32 KB | Feb 22 09:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 22/2/2012: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.8, Firefox 10.0.2 http://ur1.ca/8attd #techrights | Feb 22 10:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Open Innovation. #FTW http://ur1.ca/8atts | Feb 22 10:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Links 22/2/2012: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.8, Firefox 10.0.2 | Techrights .::. Size~: 108.67 KB | Feb 22 10:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: glyn moody - Google+ - Print any colour you like... - http://bit.ly/xu7XbM #reprap… .::. Size~: 49.74 KB | Feb 22 10:00 |
| MinceR | http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern%2F165381&cat | Feb 22 10:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: kern/165381: [cpufreq] powerd(8) eats CPUs for breakfast .::. Size~: 10.03 KB | Feb 22 10:02 |
| *scientes has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Feb 22 10:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Github for #science? Shouldn’t we perhaps build TCP/IP first? - http://bit.ly/wbRTem fascinating ideas, worth exploring #openscience | Feb 22 10:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Science in the Open » Blog Archive » Github for science? Shouldn’t we perhaps build TCP/IP first? .::. Size~: 48.72 KB | Feb 22 10:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] #Wired on anti !ACTA protests in Poland and Europe: ur1.ca/8au8i | Feb 22 10:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] καλημέραααα | Feb 22 10:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Liquid Democracy - http://bit.ly/ytl5YD "eine Mischform zwischen indirekter und direkter Demokratie"; interesting #pirateparty #de | Feb 22 10:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Liquid Democracy – Piratenwiki .::. Size~: 44.1 KB | Feb 22 10:18 |
| *iophk (~unknown2@unaffiliated/iophk) has joined #techrights | Feb 22 10:26 | |
| *ChanServ gives channel operator status to iophk | Feb 22 10:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Nice one, IBM :-) (warning, german language) Pimp Your Server http://ur1.ca/8aul8 | Feb 22 10:35 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Pimp Your Server - YouTube .::. Size~: 107.13 KB | Feb 22 10:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Announcing the Open Data Handbook version 1.0 - http://bit.ly/wR6hEW cool #opendata #okf | Feb 22 10:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Announcing the Open Data Handbook version 1.0 | Open Knowledge Foundation Blog .::. Size~: 70.27 KB | Feb 22 10:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] Remove Your Google Search History Before Google's New Privacy Policy Takes Effect | EFF | http://identi.ca/url/66990885 | Feb 22 10:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How to Remove Your Google Search History Before Google's New Privacy Policy Takes Effect | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 28.51 KB | Feb 22 10:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Jeremy Lin row reveals deep-seated racism against Asian Americans http://gu.com/p/35j89 | Feb 22 11:01 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jeremy Lin row reveals deep-seated racism against Asian Americans | Hadley Freeman | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 295.45 KB | Feb 22 11:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The difficulties in opening science: Q&A with Michael Nielsen - http://bit.ly/xO0B4h but it finally happening (v @AuScience) #openscience | Feb 22 11:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: TED Blog | The difficulties in opening science: Q&A with Michael Nielsen .::. Size~: 40.56 KB | Feb 22 11:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "How to Remove Your Google Search History Before Google's New Privacy Policy Takes Effect" - http://ur1.ca/8avcy... http://b1t.it/aTMe | Feb 22 11:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Australian Science knowledge community looking for new #bloggers - http://bit.ly/y5mfD5 "science, web technologies and everything related" | Feb 22 11:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ur1 Generator .::. Size~: 2.26 KB | Feb 22 11:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - "How to Remove Your Google Search History Before Google's… .::. Size~: 51.33 KB | Feb 22 11:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Do you want to contribute to the Australian Science knowledge community? | Australian Science .::. Size~: 503.16 KB | Feb 22 11:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Chrome only future for #Flash on #Linux - http://bit.ly/xkeeWn isn't that a bit discriminatory? | Feb 22 11:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Chrome only future for Flash on Linux - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.03 KB | Feb 22 11:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Flash only with Chrome on !Linux - wut? ur1.ca/8avho die, flash, die. | Feb 22 11:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] A part of journalistic history died today. ♻@Alshaheeed Marie Colvin - why she believed reporting wars first hand vital http://t.co/1Splb67d | Feb 22 11:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I'd have thought the #EFF would be posting screenshots in articles in OS's that respect people's freedom, not #OSX | Feb 22 11:26 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Colvin: why we journalists must continue going to war despite the dangers | Media | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 128.43 KB | Feb 22 11:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Piracy push planned in Hollywood - http://bit.ly/yyn7bg copyright maximalists still utterly clueless #sopa #acta | Feb 22 11:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Piracy push planned in Hollywood - Entertainment News, Ted Johnson, Media - Variety .::. Size~: 57.05 KB | Feb 22 11:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] The majority of #FOSS enthusiasts seem to be unaware or ignoring #FRAND ? http://is.gd/jqyfRc or perhaps I've misinterpreted it! #swpats | Feb 22 11:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: EuroParliament to exclude Free Software with patents and FRAND - Press releases .::. Size~: 12.78 KB | Feb 22 11:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] indeed | Feb 22 11:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] good question; no idea what his views were on that | Feb 22 11:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @ECspokesRyan Commissioner in charge of #ACTA (de Gucht) says #ECJ referral will cut thru "fog of uncertainty" clouding current debate | Feb 22 11:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] "How to Remove Your Google Search History Before Google's New Privacy Policy Takes Effect" - http://ur1.ca/8avcy... http://b1t.it/aTMR | Feb 22 11:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ur1 Generator .::. Size~: 2.26 KB | Feb 22 11:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nandan Vaidya - Google+ - "How to Remove Your Google Search History Before Google's… .::. Size~: 53.83 KB | Feb 22 11:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] whoa, #Fossil looks great! Distributed version controll, bug tracker, wiki, blog. Holy cow is that cool. ur1.ca/6fbbx | Feb 22 11:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Domain name seizures: The end of the dotcom dominance? - http://bit.ly/wmgvDu if people have any sense... | Feb 22 11:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Domain name seizures: The end of the dotcom dominance? | TechnoLlama .::. Size~: 70.27 KB | Feb 22 11:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Shared a post "#Chrome only future for #Flash on #Linux - http://bit.ly/xkeeWn isn't that a bit discriminatory?" https... http://b1t.it/aTM2 | Feb 22 12:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Leuk: Advert. v. Computer Idee "FAQman" met foto van http://is.gd/ou4Lsc in @linuxmagNL 1/2012. "DJR" was auteur van MIDI handboek (1/2) | Feb 22 12:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Chrome only future for Flash on Linux - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.12 KB | Feb 22 12:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nandan Vaidya - Google+ - #Chrome only future for #Flash on #Linux -… .::. Size~: 49.06 KB | Feb 22 12:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Twitter .::. Size~: 44.58 KB | Feb 22 12:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] "DJR" publiceerde jaren geleden een interessante ASM listing in PCM, waarmee je MIDI op Amiga kon omtoveren tot Ethernet. #ÜB3RG33K (2/2) | Feb 22 12:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] αρχίζει @Contrabbando στο @radiobubble | Feb 22 12:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Expressen's WikiLeaks' "memo" on Carl Bildt: Rolling Stone magazine from January http://t.co/fQjSQFbb #svpol | Feb 22 12:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Adobe Flash For !Linux Will Only Be Available For Chrome http://identi.ca/url/67006596 | Feb 22 12:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Julian Assange: The Rolling Stone Interview | Politics News | Rolling Stone .::. Size~: 61.26 KB | Feb 22 12:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Adobe Flash For Linux Will Only Be Available For Chrome ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 61.87 KB | Feb 22 12:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Another win: European Commissions sends !ACTA to the Court of Justice of the European Union ur1.ca/8awl4 [pl] | Feb 22 12:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I have given Newsbeuter a real good go, it is working fine (after some help thanks @r7) but I am going back to liferea or I might try .. | Feb 22 12:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] .. RSSOwl. | Feb 22 12:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] PM Tusk says #ACTA suspension “not caused by external pressure” - http://bit.ly/yFgouH that's good #pl | Feb 22 12:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [TheNews.pl] PM Tusk says ACTA suspension “not caused by external pressure” | La Quadrature du Net .::. Size~: 15.18 KB | Feb 22 12:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Elsevier boycott: Time for librarians to rise up! - http://bit.ly/xAuG3d yes - need to keep momentum going #openaccess | Feb 22 12:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Elsevier boycott: Time for librarians to rise up! : Confessions of a Science Librarian .::. Size~: 53.71 KB | Feb 22 12:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] [Phoronix] !Mageia 2 Reaches Beta State http://goo.gl/4HTDN | Feb 22 12:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @glynmoody #Elsevier boycott: Time for librarians to rise up! - http://bit.ly/xAuG3d yes - need to keep momentum going #openaccess | Feb 22 12:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] Mageia 2 Reaches Beta State .::. Size~: 16.86 KB | Feb 22 12:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Elsevier boycott: Time for librarians to rise up! : Confessions of a Science Librarian .::. Size~: 52.91 KB | Feb 22 12:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ECJ terms: "whether #ACTA agreement and its implementation fully compatible with freedom of expression and freedom of the Internet." | Feb 22 12:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] last post v @hasserosen @StopActaNow and this EC doc: http://ur1.ca/8axhh #ACTA | Feb 22 12:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting application/pdf type | Feb 22 12:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] It looks like #Adobe #Flash will only be supporting !Google !Chrome instead of Linux generally in the future? http://goo.gl/l7Q12 | Feb 22 12:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux « Adobe AIR and Adobe Flash Player Team Blog .::. Size~: 11.07 KB | Feb 22 12:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Wow that was awkwardly phrased to fit into 140 - Ah well - Can't be helped | Feb 22 12:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Открытое государство. Чем оно является и чем быть не может - http://bit.ly/zYPODT useful intro #ogov #ru | Feb 22 12:57 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Открытое государство. Чем оно является и чем быть не может | Иван Бегтин .::. Size~: 87.99 KB | Feb 22 12:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Why comments sometimes suck? http://ur1.ca/8axq4 | Feb 22 13:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: xkcd: First Post .::. Size~: 8.91 KB | Feb 22 13:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Cameron defends introducing competition into the NHS. He will be calling it the health industry soon. #savetheNHS | Feb 22 13:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The 'New' Righthaven Offers Discount To Techdirt Readers Who Want 'Spineful' Hosting http://goo.gl/TseFe | Feb 22 13:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Why Australia distrusts Swedish politicians over Assange http://t.co/Tq4Nclzs #svpol #auspol | Feb 22 13:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The 'New' Righthaven Offers Discount To Techdirt Readers Who Want 'Spineful' Hosting | Techdirt .::. Size~: 52.47 KB | Feb 22 13:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 2011-03-04 Jennifer Robinson: Brief to Canberra meeting of MP's re Julian Assange | WL Central .::. Size~: 45.65 KB | Feb 22 13:22 |
| *fewt (~fewt@170.138.104.250) has joined #techrights | Feb 22 13:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] απο δω και περα να λετε ψεματα στις δημοσκοπησεις,να λετε οτι γουσταρετε τους Μημονιακους. #an_thes_ekloges | Feb 22 13:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] θυμάσαι εκεινο το σύνθημα, πως πήγαινε να δεις... α ναι! 'αν οι εκλογές άλλαζαν κάτι θα ήταν παράνομες' | Feb 22 13:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] What's better, a bug fix or chocolate? @mairin comments | http://red.ht/xDx9GI #opensource | Feb 22 13:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Five and a half couples who shared love and work the open source way | opensource.com .::. Size~: 51.75 KB | Feb 22 13:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #DWO unveil new !DoctorWho !Minecraft Game Server http://feedly.com/k/wkAiva | Feb 22 13:37 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Maximum (32) redirects followed ( http://feedly.com/k/wkAiva ) | Feb 22 13:37 |
| fewt | How many Paid¢anonical$hills does it take to destroy a reddit? | Feb 22 13:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "... that British citizens are largely naked against the depredations of its own State organs." http://is.gd/fQYs4I | Feb 22 13:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BEN'S PRISON BLOG: Why We Need Foreign Judges .::. Size~: 88.61 KB | Feb 22 13:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Australia: FM Kevin Rudd has resigned and returns to Australia, likely to challenge the Prime Minister. | Feb 22 13:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I did not realise there were multiple versions of The Scream until this week. | Feb 22 13:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Cameron... the way to save the NHS is to turn it over to the capitalists. #savetheNHS #cooperation | Feb 22 13:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Welsh historic rugby triumphs are starting to sound as boring as 1966. | Feb 22 13:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Cutting the cord: @VodafoneUK revolutionary approach to mobility, flexibility & productivity by Guy Laurence | red.ht/AbmnWQ | Feb 22 13:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] http://ur1.ca/8ayru has a recent article that talks about #sipwitch | Feb 22 13:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Открытое государство. Чем оно является и чем быть не может - http://bit.ly/zYPODT useful intro #ogov #ru | Feb 22 13:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The 'New' Righthaven Offers Discount To Techdirt Readers Who Want 'Spineful' Hosting - http://bit.ly/wH3Pgo interesting | Feb 22 13:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Lançada edição n.34 da Revista Espírito Livre! http://goo.gl/vWEWp #floss #zines | Feb 22 14:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ECJ Referral: No Legal Debate Will Make #ACTA Legitimate - http://bit.ly/wz92DD key point to bear in mind | Feb 22 14:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Sweden's Foreign Minister Carl Bilt has today finally admitted in the Swedish press that Bush spinmaster Karl Rove is an "old friend". | Feb 22 14:02 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ECJ Referral: No Legal Debate Will Make ACTA Legitimate | La Quadrature du Net .::. Size~: 26.02 KB | Feb 22 14:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Munchau: Grécia deve falir se quiser democracia- Jornal de negócios online http://goo.gl/EIR02 #greece | Feb 22 14:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] Printers in Plasma Workspaces: http://ur1.ca/8ayvq | Feb 22 14:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @sandersch EU court to rule on Acta legality http://ur1.ca/8axse #stopacta | Feb 22 14:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Munchau: Grécia deve falir se quiser democracia- Economia - Jornal de negócios online .::. Size~: 87.39 KB | Feb 22 14:03 |
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| fewt | Hi DaemonFC | Feb 22 14:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ACTA and the european commission - seems there is quite a dissent in the background. Compare Karel de Gucht statement ... http://b1t.it/aTPw | Feb 22 14:05 | |
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| DaemonFC | my neighbor woke me up | Feb 22 14:05 |
| DaemonFC | fewt: I'm not a psychiatrist, but I think that woman has Histrionic Personality Disorder | Feb 22 14:06 |
| DaemonFC | you know, based on Wikipedia's description of it | Feb 22 14:06 |
| fewt | I'm reading about the Canonical Android junkware | Feb 22 14:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] HijackThis now open source - The H Security http://goo.gl/708f5 #flosstools #gpl2 | Feb 22 14:07 | |
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| DaemonFC | it's that where you plug your Android device into an external display and it runs Ubuntu or something? | Feb 22 14:07 |
| fewt | I guess they never bothered to plug a keyboard and mouse into an Android device. | Feb 22 14:07 |
| fewt | yeah | Feb 22 14:07 |
| DaemonFC | I only glanced at it | Feb 22 14:07 |
| fewt | "Ubuntu for Android gives mobile workers a compelling reason to upgrade to multi-core handsets with more RAM, more storage, faster GPUs and CPUs." | Feb 22 14:07 |
| fewt | Read: System requirements: Double whatever you have now | Feb 22 14:07 |
| DaemonFC | who needs Windows? right? :) | Feb 22 14:07 |
| fewt | http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android | Feb 22 14:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu for Android | Ubuntu .::. Size~: 47.53 KB | Feb 22 14:08 |
| fewt | "Just dock your corporate phone and enjoy Ubuntu." | Feb 22 14:08 |
| DaemonFC | that's such a horrible idea | Feb 22 14:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Cybersecurity Hype | Cato @ Liberty http://goo.gl/7beKo #cyberwar #mic #cic | Feb 22 14:08 | |
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| fewt | Quadruple the resources if they are selling to the corporate market because corporations are going to expect them to be encrypted | Feb 22 14:08 |
| DaemonFC | I could understand having an Ubuntu One Android app that would sync your browsers and give you access to your files | Feb 22 14:08 |
| DaemonFC | and I believe there already is one | Feb 22 14:08 |
| fewt | One of the worst ideas I've ever seen from them, almost as bad as Kenny Strawn's blueprint for adding Unity to the default desktop. | Feb 22 14:09 |
| fewt | sure, that would make sense | Feb 22 14:09 |
| fewt | turning a phone into a desktop? Does that mean we are going to scatter docking stations all over the place? | Feb 22 14:09 |
| fewt | big fat fail imho | Feb 22 14:09 |
| DaemonFC | well, their worst mistake so far was to kill off official status for Kubuntu | Feb 22 14:10 |
| fewt | Unity was worse than that IMHO | Feb 22 14:10 |
| DaemonFC | when they should have migrated GNOME users to that and forgot about GNOME 3 or Unity | Feb 22 14:10 |
| MinceR | doesn't seem like such a bad idea | Feb 22 14:10 |
| MinceR | and Motorola already implemented it | Feb 22 14:10 |
| MinceR | but i'd prefer to be able to use the desktop-oriented GUI even without external peripherals | Feb 22 14:10 |
| MinceR | (there are ways to do that too) | Feb 22 14:11 |
| DaemonFC | they should have dumped GNOME from their repository, brought in KDE via transitional packages, then deleted the transitional packages | Feb 22 14:11 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Feb 22 14:11 |
| fewt | I have an Atrix 2, we looked at the dock and the "netbook" dock and found them to be pointless. | Feb 22 14:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Karl Rove has been a political advisor the Swedish prime minister since at least 2010. It is the only foreign consulting job listed by Rove. | Feb 22 14:12 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=macosx_108dp1_ubuntu&num=1 | Feb 22 14:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] Mac OS X 10.8 vs. Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Performance .::. Size~: 18.84 KB | Feb 22 14:12 |
| fewt | $415 for a "netbook" attachment to a phone, which is about $100 more than a reasonably equipped netbook. | Feb 22 14:12 |
| DaemonFC | he tests against an Intel GPU that has known problems in Linux | Feb 22 14:13 |
| DaemonFC | where half their performance tweaks are turned off right now for causing graphics corruption | Feb 22 14:13 |
| fewt | lolPhoronix :) | Feb 22 14:13 |
| MinceR | so, business at usual at moronix? | Feb 22 14:13 |
| DaemonFC | if he had compared open source radeon to Mac OS with a Radeon, Ubuntu would have handed it its ass | Feb 22 14:13 |
| MinceR | s/at/as/ | Feb 22 14:13 |
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| DaemonFC | fewt: Do the Cheesecake trolls run Phoronix? | Feb 22 14:14 |
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| DaemonFC | the articles kind of hint that someone that doesn't really like Linux runs it | Feb 22 14:14 |
| DaemonFC | you have to run a crippled display driver to make OS X look faster | Feb 22 14:15 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Feb 22 14:15 |
| fewt | Cheesecake trolls? Whar? | Feb 22 14:15 |
| fewt | :D | Feb 22 14:15 |
| DaemonFC | when it comes to the CPU benchmarks, look what Ubuntu does to the Mac | Feb 22 14:15 |
| fewt | We make fun of Phoronix, like we make fun of everything. | Feb 22 14:15 |
| DaemonFC | destroys it | Feb 22 14:16 |
| DaemonFC | DESTROYS it | Feb 22 14:16 |
| DaemonFC | FUCKING DESTROYS IT | Feb 22 14:16 |
| DaemonFC | the file system benchmarks are believable as well | Feb 22 14:16 |
| DaemonFC | HFS+ is a terrible file system | Feb 22 14:16 |
| DaemonFC | people were using UFS to get away from it until OS X 10.5, when Apple put a stop to it and made them all reformat to HFS+ | Feb 22 14:17 |
| DaemonFC | HFS+ singlehandedly makes OS X Server an oxymoron | Feb 22 14:18 |
| DaemonFC | it's worse than NTFS | Feb 22 14:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Filming resumes on !DoctorWho in Cardiff http://ping.fm/ad6ec | Feb 22 14:20 | |
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| fewt | NTFS is a surprisingly good filesystem. | Feb 22 14:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Sweden's Foreign minister Carl Bildt states in Swedish tabloid today: he sees Karl Rove regularly. | Feb 22 14:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @silner Filming resumes on !DoctorWho in Cardiff http://ping.fm/ad6ec | Feb 22 14:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Filming resumes on 'Doctor Who' in Cardiff | Film & TV News | NME.COM .::. Size~: 98.41 KB | Feb 22 14:22 |
| DaemonFC | I think it's funny that Apple is selling Core i7 systems with integrated graphics honestly | Feb 22 14:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Six steps to create your own organic #permaculture garden http://goo.gl/BSK06 #preppers | Feb 22 14:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @momobxl: Reminder - 12H is deadline to submit Belgian app company profile http://ur1.ca/8azk5 #mom http://ur1. ... | Feb 22 14:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Sweden's Foreign Minister notes WikiLeaks is preparing a "smear campaign" against Sweden https://t.co/xC7lmP5h | Feb 22 14:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] "Some questions for Elsevier — Crooked Timber" http://ur1.ca/8azoi | Feb 22 14:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] INTERACTIVE TIMELINE: 6600 Years Of Civilization's Love For #Gold http://goo.gl/JUe9m #history #preppers | Feb 22 14:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Gas Prices Are Going Up No Matter What Happens In #Iran http://goo.gl/2LPYA #peakoil | Feb 22 14:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Hm. +Fabian Scherschel it works for you: http://ur1.ca/8azzb but in my case it says "We couldn't calculate who ... http://b1t.it/aTQe | Feb 22 14:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The journalist writing the Expressen article is said to be in Bildt's london hotel. #svpol No WikiLeaks officials have spoken to Expressen. | Feb 22 14:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Love the Orange Line during rush hour. | Feb 22 14:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] No more Flash for Firefox on Linux http://ur1.ca/8b08p | Feb 22 14:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Flash to only ship with Chrome? Can we get Skype and all other nonfree stuff included too. Very easy to ignore one program. | Feb 22 14:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] ACTA Referred To Europe's Top Court For Analysis. http://is.gd/fcGiP6 | Feb 22 14:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Facebook Releases New Content Guidelines, Now Allows Bodily Fluids (Gawker): http://gaw.kr/AvD5II | Feb 22 14:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] Finished Joss Whedon's 'Dollhouse' series yesterday. Another great Whedon series (after Firefly) that got canceled by the imbeciles at Fox. | Feb 22 14:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] A Bad Day For America In #Iran, #Syria And #Afghanistan http://goo.gl/9O2A0 great.... #usa #nato #mic | Feb 22 14:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Foiling a ‘malicious manipulator’ of a quantum cryptographic message | KurzweilAI http://ow.ly/9dyU4 | Feb 22 14:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Is Sweden a political kindergarten? The Prime Minister, the Minister for Justice and now the Foreign Minister are out of control. | Feb 22 14:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Foiling a ‘malicious manipulator’ of a quantum cryptographic message | KurzweilAI .::. Size~: 21.65 KB | Feb 22 14:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ‘We live in fear of a massacre' #MarieColvin #Syria http://goo.gl/tW7FG | Feb 22 14:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Every movement of London's #Olympics will be monitored – including yours http://gu.com/p/35jag then normalised afterwards as "best practise" | Feb 22 15:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Every movement of London's Olympics will be monitored – including yours | Robin Tudge | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 291.69 KB | Feb 22 15:00 |
| iophk | https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the_apache_software_foundation_celebrates | Feb 22 15:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Apache Software Foundation Celebrates the 17th Anniversary of the Apache HTTP Server with the release of v2.4 : The Apache Software Foundation Blog .::. Size~: 31.15 KB | Feb 22 15:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] European Commission Suggests #ACTA's Opponents Don't Have 'Democratic Intentions' - http://bit.ly/ybup7P getting a bit desperate? | Feb 22 15:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Original article behind the WikiLeaks / Carl Bildt polemic (in Swedish): "#Wikileaks: Carl Bildt är USA-informatör" http://t.co/t8gnJejS | Feb 22 15:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Talking about idiots... :)... how could the USA millitary be so stupid as to burn Korans :( | Feb 22 15:02 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: European Commission Suggests ACTA's Opponents Don't Have 'Democratic Intentions' | Techdirt .::. Size~: 61.49 KB | Feb 22 15:02 |
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| DaemonFC | no more Trash unless you use Chrome | Feb 22 15:04 |
| fewt | So long all those fun little time killing applets. | Feb 22 15:05 |
| fewt | The community told you to f-off, and so you have. | Feb 22 15:05 |
| fewt | ;) | Feb 22 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | they're having Google circle the wagons around their obsolete browser plugin | Feb 22 15:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA Update VIII - http://bit.ly/wiGRjH ignore the ECJ call, look at de Gucht's huge shift on #counterfeits, & why he's still wrong | Feb 22 15:07 | |
| DaemonFC | in a bid to force everyone to use each other's platforms | Feb 22 15:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ACTA Update VIII - Open Enterprise .::. Size~: 94 KB | Feb 22 15:07 |
| fewt | There is more flash out there than anything else. We only hurt ourselves by calling it obsolete. | Feb 22 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | it is technically obsolete | Feb 22 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | it's like Internet Explorer | Feb 22 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | even when it had 90% of web users, it was obsolete | Feb 22 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | technical obsolescence means there are more capable replacements | Feb 22 15:08 |
| fewt | There are more capable replacements, but nothing has replaced it. | Feb 22 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | it has nothing to do with how many people cling to legacy technologies | Feb 22 15:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Still having trouble with Dell m6600 keyboard, it is crap. Serves me right for buying Dell. | Feb 22 15:08 | |
| fewt | If no one is targeting the more capable replacements, that makes those obsolete | Feb 22 15:08 |
| fewt | Google was on to something with their app engine though. | Feb 22 15:09 |
| DaemonFC | if everyone ran back to VCRs, that wouldn't mean the VCR wasn't obsolete | Feb 22 15:09 |
| fewt | DVD was around for what 10 years before people started adopting it? | Feb 22 15:09 |
| fewt | bad example. :) | Feb 22 15:09 |
| DaemonFC | no | Feb 22 15:09 |
| fewt | This isn't a case of going back | Feb 22 15:09 |
| DaemonFC | it started eating into VHS sales within the first couple years | Feb 22 15:10 |
| DaemonFC | within about 5 years, VHS was pretty much marginalized | Feb 22 15:10 |
| fewt | It didn't start eating into VHS sales until DVDs were a better value | Feb 22 15:10 |
| fewt | it was longer than 5 years IMHO | Feb 22 15:10 |
| DaemonFC | DVDs were a better value right away | Feb 22 15:10 |
| DaemonFC | due to the limitations of the VHS format | Feb 22 15:11 |
| fewt | because DVDs were $99 and a VHS of the same thing was $15 | Feb 22 15:11 |
| DaemonFC | DVDs were $25-$30 for new releases in 1998 | Feb 22 15:11 |
| DaemonFC | but even though VHS tapes were cheaper, they were still not a better deal | Feb 22 15:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Political interference in the Assange case - all facts cited http://t.co/r7O95mAQ #svpol #auspol | Feb 22 15:12 | |
| DaemonFC | I still have DVDs from 1998, VHS tapes would have degraded by now | Feb 22 15:12 |
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| fewt | I still have a VHS from 1998 | Feb 22 15:12 |
| fewt | my wedding | Feb 22 15:12 |
| DaemonFC | even if they weren't already less than half the resolution of a DVD from the start | Feb 22 15:12 |
| fewt | I'm not saying it was technically better, because that would be dumb | Feb 22 15:12 |
| fewt | but I do remember DVDs being grossly expensive | Feb 22 15:12 |
| fewt | http://adequacy.org/stories/2001.8.24.112921.289.html | Feb 22 15:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: DVD Versus VHS: The Surprising Truth .::. Size~: 120.16 KB | Feb 22 15:14 |
| fewt | $39 VHS vs $5,000 H&K DVD player. | Feb 22 15:14 |
| DaemonFC | Blu Ray sales are being propped up by not allowing people to buy the DVD separately and save any reasonable amount of money | Feb 22 15:14 |
| DaemonFC | it's like $20 for a DVD and $25 for a two pack that includes a DVD | Feb 22 15:15 |
| fewt | I don't buy bluray yet | Feb 22 15:15 |
| abeNd-org | & the quickly expiring digital copy too | Feb 22 15:15 |
| fewt | better technology, artificially inflated prices. | Feb 22 15:16 |
| DaemonFC | this article is wrong btw | Feb 22 15:16 |
| DaemonFC | even with an old NTSC television you would get better picture quality from a DVD | Feb 22 15:16 |
| DaemonFC | VHS resolution was less than half of what those TVs were capable of | Feb 22 15:16 |
| fewt | My point though is $5,000 may be greater than $39 but it isn't worth the extra $4+K | Feb 22 15:17 |
| fewt | Flash may not be as good as HTML5, but it's good enough, and it's as prevalent as ever. So this only hurts us (in the short term). | Feb 22 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | the point about scratches is ridiculous | Feb 22 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | you have to gouge a DVD pretty good for it to skip | Feb 22 15:18 |
| fewt | depends on the quality of the laser in the player | Feb 22 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | and there's no technical reason why they can't put scratch resistant coating on DVDs | Feb 22 15:18 |
| fewt | I've had some good ones and some REALLY bad ones | Feb 22 15:18 |
| fewt | cost | Feb 22 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | that's mandatory with Blu Ray | Feb 22 15:18 |
| fewt | technical, I'm with you | Feb 22 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | with Blu Ray, the data layer of the disc is closer to the surface | Feb 22 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | the original specification called for an outer casing to protect the disc | Feb 22 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | but it ended up being replaced by a scratch resistant coating | Feb 22 15:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] How to parse a Microsoft denial (ZDNet/Foley): http://zd.net/wMu8gp | Feb 22 15:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Amazon launches Simple Workflow, a Cloud-Based Workflow Management service (Amazon Web Services Blog): http://bit.ly/yTkTqI | Feb 22 15:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Amazon automates business processes with new cloud service (Network World): http://bit.ly/yH27a5 | Feb 22 15:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: We have just officially founded the #FlatTurtle bvba - more info soon | Feb 22 15:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Flickr Is Getting a Major Makeover (Betabeat): http://bit.ly/x6frgT | Feb 22 15:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Mageia 2 beta 1 available http://ur1.ca/8b1ek | Feb 22 15:27 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Flickr Is Getting a Major Makeover | Betabeat — News, gossip and intel from Silicon Alley 2.0. .::. Size~: 58.33 KB | Feb 22 15:27 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The difference between crime and business is......... | Feb 22 15:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Seems the rangoing of the LibrePlanet 2012 conference has stopped. Thanks to everyone who called their Senators and complained !lp !gnu !fsf | Feb 22 15:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Windows Server 8 to be storage-focused OS, offering RDMA over Ethernet and InfiniBand (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/zee6bj | Feb 22 15:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Teradata partners with Hortonworks on Hadoop (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/zJscec | Feb 22 15:35 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Windows Server 8 to be storage-focused OS - Computerworld .::. Size~: 132.05 KB | Feb 22 15:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Teradata partners with Hortonworks on Hadoop - Computerworld .::. Size~: 133.63 KB | Feb 22 15:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joshuagay/@joshuagay] 'administration’s enforcers are playing with domain takedown like a shiny new toy gun' -@wseltzer ur1.ca/8b1ic #chillingeffects #censorship | Feb 22 15:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp Vrouwen? Aan z'n horloge te zien heeft hij dat niet nodig. @jenssegers ;) | Feb 22 15:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @jenssegers Je mag de #FlatTurtle jobstudenten leiden deze zomer. Is dat genoeg promotie? | Feb 22 15:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana one gets to wonder what the point is of sabotaging threading and burning history... | Feb 22 15:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Tanfoglio_ Zal wel maar latere avond zijn tegen ik er graak. 22:30 te laat? | Feb 22 15:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Proof of the failure of proprietary software - abandoning customers - http://ur1.ca/8b1qc | Feb 22 15:42 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Adobe Abandons Flash on Linux .::. Size~: 87.56 KB | Feb 22 15:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] There is a fair chance I will get trolleyed tonight but I will still not ever dream of reading a Daily Mail piece shame on you @Schestowitz | Feb 22 15:47 | |
| iophk | Good riddance to Adobe Flash | Feb 22 15:48 |
| fewt | The title should read: Adobe abandons Linux because their free software isn't good enough for the community. | Feb 22 15:49 |
| fewt | most of the comments so far have been pretty pathetic | Feb 22 15:49 |
| fewt | considering they were investing in something that they gave to us for free, and we did nothing but trash them. | Feb 22 15:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Knocking heads together: Creators and Consumers workshop on copyright, licensing and protection - http://bit.ly/wazdzx useful but depressing | Feb 22 15:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] So both Apple and Microsoft file an FRAND complaint against Motorola. Coincidence? I find that hard to believe. | Feb 22 15:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Slightly Right of Centre: Knocking heads together: Creators and Consumers workshop on copyright, licensing and protection .::. Size~: 112.22 KB | Feb 22 15:50 |
| MinceR | i thought it was "adobe abandons gnu/linux because they couldn't code their way out of a wet paper bag and they spent their development time on whining instead" | Feb 22 15:50 |
| fewt | Adobe abandons a community that does nothing but bitch and whine that their free product isn't good enough. | Feb 22 15:51 |
| fewt | I can't say that I blame them. | Feb 22 15:51 |
| iophk | https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/02/how-remove-your-google-search-history-googles-new-privacy-policy-takes-effect | Feb 22 15:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How to Remove Your Google Search History Before Google's New Privacy Policy Takes Effect | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 28.01 KB | Feb 22 15:51 |
| fewt | I guess I'm the minority though, I actually needed Flash. | Feb 22 15:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Tanfoglio_ Anders eten we pitta om 9:30? Dan kom ik wat vroeger? | Feb 22 15:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Choisissez I like when you talk dirty ;) | Feb 22 15:52 | |
| fewt | but f-me so everyone else can feel better that something that they don't have the source too is dead. | Feb 22 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | fewt: When it causes all kinds of ridiculous browser crashing and stuff... | Feb 22 15:52 |
| iophk | Their 'free' product is garbage. There are much better wrappers for video than Flash | Feb 22 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | well, can you blame people for calling a buggy pile of shit what it is? | Feb 22 15:52 |
| iophk | It was so bloated and buggy that it was more like a M$ product | Feb 22 15:52 |
| fewt | thanks for making my point. | Feb 22 15:52 |
| fewt | just because you don't like it and don't use it doesn't mean that no-one else does. | Feb 22 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | well, Adobe Flash isn't even really freeware | Feb 22 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | it makes Adobe money in several ways | Feb 22 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | which makes you their customer, even if it doesn't have an up front fee to you | Feb 22 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | as a customer you should expect certain quality standards in Flash | Feb 22 15:53 |
| fewt | now .. no-one does, that's a win. People that need it will just go to another platform. HURRAY US! | Feb 22 15:53 |
| fewt | DaemonFC: I'm aware of most of the problems with flash. I used to spend time fixing them for Fuduntu users. It's been pretty stable over the last 6 mos | Feb 22 15:54 |
| DaemonFC | well, 11.2 will have 5 years of security fixes | Feb 22 15:54 |
| DaemonFC | that means 5 years for it to be replaced with HTML 5 | Feb 22 15:54 |
| fewt | It won't be, as long as it is available for Windows and OSX | Feb 22 15:55 |
| DaemonFC | or 5 years for gnash or something to be usable in the majority of places Flash is used | Feb 22 15:55 |
| fewt | too many companies have investments in it | Feb 22 15:55 |
| fewt | like Hulu | Feb 22 15:55 |
| fewt | (which is why I need flash) | Feb 22 15:55 |
| iophk | Why should anyone care about Flash? It's been bad since day one. | Feb 22 15:55 |
| fewt | meh | Feb 22 15:56 |
| fewt | why we are the 1% | Feb 22 15:56 |
| fewt | +1 | Feb 22 15:56 |
| iophk | IOS growth will help get rid of Flash from OS X, too. | Feb 22 15:56 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] OccupyScience !!! - http://bit.ly/ABfFIw scientist of the world, unite etc etc...exciting (v @mbauwens) #openscience #opendata #oa | Feb 22 16:00 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/90992488 http://identi.ca/notice/90985452 | Feb 22 16:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-12 15:47:18 UTC - Identi.ca: There is a fair chance I will get trolleyed tonight but I will still not ever dream of reading a Daily Mail piece shame on you @Schestowitz | Feb 22 16:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-12 13:10:06 UTC - Identi.ca: @Schestowitz I don't care how good the news is for Linux I am not reading Daily Mail pieces you link to. | Feb 22 16:01 |
| schestowitz | Very strong feelings about the Daily Fail. I don't like it either. | Feb 22 16:03 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, Apple isn't particularly fond of Flash | Feb 22 16:03 |
| DaemonFC | Vista8 ARM won't support it at all | Feb 22 16:03 |
| DaemonFC | development for Flash on any mobile device ceased with 11.1 | Feb 22 16:03 |
| DaemonFC | it has never worked reliably on the BSDs | Feb 22 16:04 |
| DaemonFC | it's not supported on Linux at all now | Feb 22 16:04 |
| DaemonFC | and Microsoft isn't allowing it in IE 10 on Vista8 unless the user is in Classic Desktop mode | Feb 22 16:04 |
| DaemonFC | it seems like Google Chrome was the only rock left for them to go crawl under and burrow | Feb 22 16:05 |
| fewt | I wonder what Hulu will do now | Feb 22 16:06 |
| MinceR | fewt: their product was never free, it was gratis | Feb 22 16:06 |
| fewt | gratis is free too | Feb 22 16:06 |
| fewt | Hulu has said that HTML5 isn't good enough for them | Feb 22 16:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Big drug firms seek longer Canadian #patent protection - http://bit.ly/AssZPP but don't want to give anything in return #ca (v @ArticleOne) | Feb 22 16:07 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Big drug firms seek longer Canadian patent protection - The Globe and Mail .::. Size~: 97.97 KB | Feb 22 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | what they mean is they want DRM | Feb 22 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | so they'll keep saddling users with Trash as long as they can | Feb 22 16:07 |
| fewt | That's their choice | Feb 22 16:07 |
| fewt | and mine to be ok with it :) | Feb 22 16:07 |
| fewt | I anticipate they go SilverLight, sadly. | Feb 22 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | and mine is to not use them and go find what I want on bittorrent | Feb 22 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Feb 22 16:07 |
| fewt | which is another +1 for why we will be 1% | Feb 22 16:07 |
| fewt | Meh, too legally grey for me. | Feb 22 16:08 |
| MinceR | silver lie is already dead | Feb 22 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | fuck them | Feb 22 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | if they want me to pay for it, make Hulu not need Flash | Feb 22 16:08 |
| fewt | Netflix uses it, so there is a compelling reason | Feb 22 16:08 |
| fewt | until Netflix stops using it, it is not dead. | Feb 22 16:08 |
| fewt | because Netflix is still the #1 streaming media provider. | Feb 22 16:09 |
| fewt | DaemonFC: Again, my point. They don't care if us 1% don't use it. | Feb 22 16:09 |
| fewt | we are just hurting ourselves. | Feb 22 16:09 |
| *fewt sighs | Feb 22 16:09 | |
| MinceR | then the net applications lie comes out... | Feb 22 16:10 |
| fewt | what net applications lie | Feb 22 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | that they always give IE like double the market share anyone else does | Feb 22 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | and then refuse to explain why | Feb 22 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | among other obvious inconsistencies | Feb 22 16:12 |
| fewt | oh | Feb 22 16:12 |
| fewt | I guess I missed where that was relevant. | Feb 22 16:13 |
| fewt | :D | Feb 22 16:13 |
| DaemonFC | most counters put IE all versions at 25-30% right now | Feb 22 16:13 |
| DaemonFC | Net Applications is still claiming they're in the 40s | Feb 22 16:13 |
| fewt | poc | Feb 22 16:13 |
| fewt | oic | Feb 22 16:13 |
| fewt | geez my typing skill is all sorts of fail | Feb 22 16:13 |
| fewt | unfamiliar keyboard ftw | Feb 22 16:13 |
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| DaemonFC | Google's 64-bit Chrome for Linux doesn't even include a Flash player | Feb 22 16:15 |
| DaemonFC | it will use the NPAPI plug in if you have one already | Feb 22 16:16 |
| fewt | I ship the NPAPI plugin | Feb 22 16:16 |
| fewt | and 32bit chrome | Feb 22 16:16 |
| fewt | 64bit chrome isn't out of beta so it can't be licensed for distribution. | Feb 22 16:16 |
| DaemonFC | what? | Feb 22 16:17 |
| MinceR | i was referring to the "1%" one | Feb 22 16:17 |
| DaemonFC | there's stable channel packages for it | Feb 22 16:17 |
| fewt | MinceR: there is no evidence to support !1% | Feb 22 16:17 |
| fewt | DaemonFC: I am wrong there | Feb 22 16:17 |
| fewt | DaemonFC: I forgot that it did go stable and I did switch | Feb 22 16:17 |
| fewt | lol | Feb 22 16:17 |
| fewt | MinceR: Just because we want it to be greater than 1% doesn't mean it really is. :P | Feb 22 16:18 |
| MinceR | there is no evidence to support 1% | Feb 22 16:18 |
| fewt | There is plenty | Feb 22 16:18 |
| MinceR | seriously, this has been discussed to death | Feb 22 16:18 |
| DaemonFC | the 5 years of security updates for 11.2 is obviously due to Ubuntu having an LTS coming up | Feb 22 16:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The answer to piracy is innovation, not more copyright laws - http://aje.me/yyYT9c yup | Feb 22 16:20 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The answer to piracy is innovation, not more copyright laws - Opinion - Al Jazeera English .::. Size~: 135.9 KB | Feb 22 16:20 |
| fewt | MinceR: You'll believe what you believe, I won't try to convince you. I've been around for ~16 years now, I'm pretty well convinced the 1.x% stat is accurate. | Feb 22 16:21 |
| fewt | We don't have hordes of people changing the browser string. :) | Feb 22 16:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why I never voted [IMG] http://ur1.ca/8b2nt | Feb 22 16:25 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Feb 22 16:25 |
| MinceR | fewt: believe whatever you want. | Feb 22 16:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @jerezim: #ACTA ECJ referral = trick to avoid democratic debate... but shows public opinion has an impact! http://ur1.ca/8ays6 #continue | Feb 22 16:28 | |
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| fewt | MinceR: :) | Feb 22 16:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: i love erudition in non-helpful bug reports | Feb 22 16:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @glynmoody: The answer to piracy is innovation, not more copyright laws - http://aje.me/yyYT9c yup | Feb 22 16:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The answer to piracy is innovation, not more copyright laws - Opinion - Al Jazeera English .::. Size~: 135.9 KB | Feb 22 16:30 |
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| DaemonFC | fewt: One option is to switch your user agent to a mobile one | Feb 22 16:34 |
| DaemonFC | that can land you on sites that jsut hand you the raw mp4/3gp file | Feb 22 16:34 |
| DaemonFC | instead of Flash | Feb 22 16:34 |
| fewt | I ship Chromium so maybe it won't matter for me. | Feb 22 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | it will | Feb 22 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | because there will be no way to add the Pepper Flash to Chromium | Feb 22 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | so Google will end up killing off Chromium as anything but a broken test browser | Feb 22 16:35 |
| fewt | oh, I hadn't researched that yet. It was next on my to-do list. | Feb 22 16:35 |
| fewt | We wonder why people use Windows. | Feb 22 16:36 |
| fewt | :D | Feb 22 16:37 |
| koolhead17 | hi all | Feb 22 16:37 |
| fewt | DaemonFC the documentation seems to imply the ppapi is there | Feb 22 16:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @mairin @anoopjt http://ur1.ca/8ayja | Feb 22 16:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Adobe and Google Partnering for Flash Player on Linux « Adobe AIR and Adobe Flash Player Team Blog .::. Size~: 11.07 KB | Feb 22 16:38 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, but Flash won't come with it | Feb 22 16:38 |
| DaemonFC | and you can't download it from Adobe | Feb 22 16:38 |
| fewt | I wonder if it will be in the google app store | Feb 22 16:39 |
| fewt | if so, done | Feb 22 16:39 |
| DaemonFC | nope | Feb 22 16:39 |
| DaemonFC | it will be bundled with Google Chrome | Feb 22 16:39 |
| DaemonFC | and only licensed for use in Google Chrome | Feb 22 16:39 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] A reason not to give your parents an iPad (YouTube): http://ur1.ca/8b2xr | Feb 22 16:40 | |
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| DaemonFC | fewt: Apparently Adobe will provide a debug enabled player separately from Chrome | Feb 22 16:46 |
| DaemonFC | "for web developers" | Feb 22 16:46 |
| DaemonFC | I guess you could ob that into Chromium | Feb 22 16:46 |
| DaemonFC | but it may not be legal to redistribute that way | Feb 22 16:47 |
| fewt | no, I am just going to contact them and see if my license will give me access to the pepper plugin. | Feb 22 16:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Howto set-up MOC — music on console - corenominal http://goo.gl/VQcQv #audio #cli #tips #flosstools | Feb 22 16:48 | |
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| DaemonFC | doubt it | Feb 22 16:49 |
| fewt | You are probably right, but it won't hurt to try. | Feb 22 16:49 |
| fewt | Jono: I bet Canonical is pissed | Feb 22 16:49 |
| DaemonFC | jono will say No Comment | Feb 22 16:49 |
| schestowitz | he never says that | Feb 22 16:50 |
| schestowitz | sometimes he says he needs to go though | Feb 22 16:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] RT @schestowitz: Why I never voted [IMG] http://ur1.ca/8b2nt | Feb 22 16:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "#ACTA would block the much-needed reform of EU copyright law" - http://bit.ly/xkty0s say EU #greens (v @StopActaNow) | Feb 22 16:50 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: don't drag him into it | Feb 22 16:50 |
| schestowitz | he's working, leave him alone | Feb 22 16:50 |
| fewt | trololo? | Feb 22 16:50 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJCYuybp6DU&feature=youtu.be | Feb 22 16:50 |
| fewt | :D | Feb 22 16:50 |
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| DaemonFC | fewt: The HTML 5 video player on Youtube does have far better performance than Flash | Feb 22 16:52 |
| schestowitz | eww | Feb 22 16:52 |
| schestowitz | phil | Feb 22 16:52 |
| DaemonFC | you have noticed that right? | Feb 22 16:52 |
| schestowitz | Dr. Feel | Feb 22 16:52 |
| schestowitz | Come to Dr. Pill | Feb 22 16:53 |
| fewt | DaemonFC: I have no issue with HTML | Feb 22 16:53 |
| fewt | 5 | Feb 22 16:53 |
| schestowitz | He'll do you a good cocktail | Feb 22 16:53 |
| DaemonFC | considering how top heavy Flash is, it would be kind of surprising if Flash managed to perform better than something that just calls Gstreamer and plays a video | Feb 22 16:53 |
| fewt | I *only* have an issue with celebrating killing off access to so much existing content, and killing it off in general of course. | Feb 22 16:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Entertainment Industry Embraces New Business Model: Suing Google For Third-Party Android Apps That 'Promote Piracy' - http://bit.ly/z73xLI | Feb 22 16:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Entertainment Industry Embraces New Business Model: Suing Google For Third-Party Android Apps That 'Promote Piracy' | Techdirt .::. Size~: 46.01 KB | Feb 22 16:53 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Dr. Phil is a fucking idiot | Feb 22 16:55 |
| DaemonFC | and a gasbag | Feb 22 16:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] If Microsoft would be forced to use the extortion err income from royalties for "IPR" they collect from Android phone ... http://b1t.it/aTTt | Feb 22 17:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - If Microsoft would be forced to use the extortion err… .::. Size~: 47.48 KB | Feb 22 17:00 |
| schestowitz | gasbag mening? | Feb 22 17:01 |
| schestowitz | meaning | Feb 22 17:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] .. when they say something right once in ten years. | Feb 22 17:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft Spies on All Windows/Internet Explorer Users, But Chooses Google as FUD Target http://goo.gl/pCwhZ #fud #msie #privacy | Feb 22 17:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellog2/@kernellog2] Coming in 3.3 (Part 2) - Filesystems and storage http://t.co/uZUeeybq #btrfs #ext4 #xfs #mdadm #raid #storage #scsi #target #linux #kernel | Feb 22 17:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Microsoft plays victim card in #FRAND complaint against Motorola, Google - http://bit.ly/yFjmrl how are the mighty fallen | Feb 22 17:03 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft plays victim card in FRAND complaint against Motorola, Google | ITworld .::. Size~: 129.75 KB | Feb 22 17:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] οταν αρχίζει ο @O_Kanalarhis ξερω οτι μου εχει μεινει μονο μια ωρα ακομα στη δουλειά #fuck_yeah... | Feb 22 17:05 | |
| MinceR | 174837 < DaemonFC> jono will say No Comment | Feb 22 17:06 |
| MinceR | 174851 < schestowitz> he never says that | Feb 22 17:06 |
| MinceR | he never _phrases_ it that way. :> | Feb 22 17:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] What's the going rate for a journalist 1,000 civillians 10,000 civillians? Which gets the most coverage? | Feb 22 17:07 | |
| jono | No comment. | Feb 22 17:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Tanfoglio_ Waarom zou je dat doen | Feb 22 17:08 | |
| jono | :-) | Feb 22 17:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Choisissez Ja ze, ik heb gezegd als het beke warmer wordt ;) | Feb 22 17:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Choisissez Is het al boven 10°C? | Feb 22 17:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @savermeulen bedankt! Weer een stap dichter bij werelddominatie ;) | Feb 22 17:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @hannesvdvreken imagemagick ftw? | Feb 22 17:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Dear Microsoft, Apple - if you think that FRAND deal of MMI for h.264 is too expensive - switch to webm/vp8 - it is ro... http://b1t.it/aTTP | Feb 22 17:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Dear Microsoft, Apple - if you think that FRAND deal of MMI… .::. Size~: 47.87 KB | Feb 22 17:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Patents Let Giants Attack the Rest, Apple Attack FOSS http://ur1.ca/8b3mb #apple #swpats | Feb 22 17:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Patents Let Giants Attack the Rest, Apple Attack FOSS | Techrights .::. Size~: 91.76 KB | Feb 22 17:15 |
| MinceR | jono: that must be a first for you. :> | Feb 22 17:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The 2010's the decade of the enemy within, otherwise known as citizens. The scariest enemy for governments. | Feb 22 17:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Nicolas #Sarkozy looking at things - http://bit.ly/xcku4H it's true, he is (v @nitot) #tumblr | Feb 22 17:20 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nicolas Sarkozy looking at things .::. Size~: 65.02 KB | Feb 22 17:20 |
| MinceR | :) | Feb 22 17:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Italy instructs public administrations to consider using open source - http://bit.ly/xt5hGM only "consider", but it's a start | Feb 22 17:27 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Italy instructs public administrations to consider using open source | Joinup .::. Size~: 24.04 KB | Feb 22 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Fire the Awesome beams | Feb 22 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | and the Rockin torpedoes! | Feb 22 17:27 |
| MinceR | awesome beams? another firefox feature? :) | Feb 22 17:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] A friend phoned me today saying their previous employer wants to come to an arrangement under an NDA as they are scared of publicity. .. | Feb 22 17:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] .. NDA's stink should not be allowed. | Feb 22 17:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA en camino a la Corte Europea de Justicia - http://bit.ly/xOmH1Y good summary | Feb 22 17:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Kuhn: Busybox GPL enforcement concerns resolved http://ur1.ca/8b3wt | Feb 22 17:32 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Kuhn: Busybox GPL enforcement concerns resolved [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 8.29 KB | Feb 22 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | I don't use any Flash sites that have DRM anyway | Feb 22 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | obscuring the link to the video file is not DRM, just a nuisance | Feb 22 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Feb 22 17:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] o @O_Kanalarhis σε θελει ενεργητικό http://ur1.ca/8b3xz και καλά κάνει #an_to_thes #insert_coin | Feb 22 17:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Italy instructs public administrations to consider using open source | Joinup http://goo.gl/wcfkj #ppc where are you? ; #flossfiles | Feb 22 17:33 | |
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| fewt | How will I play dubya dog? | Feb 22 17:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Smooth switch to open source at mental health care provider Rotterdam | Joinup http://goo.gl/LZv0j #flossfiles | Feb 22 17:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] CC Labs: Errata annotations without republishing licenses http://ur1.ca/8b3yv | Feb 22 17:35 | |
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| DaemonFC | lmao | Feb 22 17:35 |
| DaemonFC | https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_technical_specification | Feb 22 17:36 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] UVF leader not guilty.... Judge rightly criticises supergrass evidence. I thought the supergrass system died years ago. | Feb 22 17:37 | |
| DaemonFC | To comply with LSB 4.1, means shipping Qt3 which has no upstream | Feb 22 17:37 |
| fewt | Is anyone LSB 4.1 compliant? | Feb 22 17:37 |
| fewt | or any level of LSB compliance anymore? | Feb 22 17:38 |
| fewt | Seems to have died off | Feb 22 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu is | Feb 22 17:38 |
| fewt | oh, til | Feb 22 17:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] US #petition: USTR's Freedom of Information office: to make the supporting text of #ACTA public - http://chn.ge/zmye9P optimistic, perhaps | Feb 22 17:38 | |
| DaemonFC | several others probably | Feb 22 17:38 |
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| DaemonFC | Ubuntu 12.04 still targets LSB 4.0 | Feb 22 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | the only really substantive change in 4.1 is that Java went from Optional to dropped entirely | Feb 22 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | and you could satisfy the Optional Java requirement with OpenJDK | Feb 22 17:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Honesty... As a government we want as much money as possible to rise to the top and for poor people to be glad of their lot and not be .. | Feb 22 17:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] .. a problem. | Feb 22 17:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 14 Tips for Starting Your Own Seeds http://goo.gl/N36A5 #preppers #gardening | Feb 22 17:40 | |
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| DaemonFC | Fedora is dropping Qt3 from Fedora 17 | Feb 22 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | and everything that still depends on it | Feb 22 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | which is not much | Feb 22 17:40 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: oh ok | Feb 22 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu 12.04 still has Qt3 packages because Debian still did when they forked Ubuntu from it | Feb 22 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | but Debian 7 will be removing them before it is final | Feb 22 17:41 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: oh | Feb 22 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu 12.10 won't have it | Feb 22 17:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] FOSS-Hostile Patent Policies in Europe and the FFII’s Response to That http://ur1.ca/8b433 #swpats | Feb 22 17:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Lithuanian Minister of Justice: “On #ACTA. Why did it all explode now?” - http://bit.ly/xHYC7F good analysis #lt | Feb 22 17:42 | |
| DaemonFC | it's not advisable to install anything that needs Qt3 | Feb 22 17:42 |
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| DaemonFC | not supported means not supported, by anyone | Feb 22 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | they're in whatever state they were in last November when Ubuntu pulled them blindly from Debian(!!!!!!!) | Feb 22 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | for the next 5 years(!!!!!!) | Feb 22 17:42 |
| fewt | what if we like QT3? | Feb 22 17:43 |
| fewt | haha | Feb 22 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | there's still the TQt3 fork | Feb 22 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | which is being somewhat maintained to suit Trinity | Feb 22 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | but that has nothing to do with Qt3 other than being derived from it | Feb 22 17:44 |
| fewt | I was joking | Feb 22 17:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] 3euro/μηνα το'χουμε παιδιά κ ειμαστε και περισσοτεροι απο 1000 http://ur1.ca/8b3xz #afou_to_thes | Feb 22 17:45 | |
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| DaemonFC | OpenSUSE is maintaining their Qt3 packages | Feb 22 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | using whatever patches they can salvage from other distros and TQt without making incompatible changes | Feb 22 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | but Nokia stopped supporting it a long time ago | Feb 22 17:46 |
| fewt | looks like it's still tied to arts | Feb 22 17:46 |
| fewt | hrm | Feb 22 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | yuck | Feb 22 17:46 |
| fewt | at least in Fuduntu it is | Feb 22 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Feb 22 17:46 |
| fewt | will have to fix that. | Feb 22 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | Phonon is superior | Feb 22 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | aRts has been DELETED | Feb 22 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | DELETE DELETE DEEELEEEETE!!! | Feb 22 17:47 |
| fewt | FORK FORK FOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRK | Feb 22 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | 30 linux of C++ just to play a sound? | Feb 22 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | seriously? | Feb 22 17:47 |
| fewt | no | Feb 22 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | SERIOUSLY? | Feb 22 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Feb 22 17:47 |
| fewt | DaemonFC: I'm rarely serious | Feb 22 17:47 |
| fewt | except about flash | Feb 22 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | *lines | Feb 22 17:48 |
| fewt | except about dubya dog :D | Feb 22 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | autocorrect | Feb 22 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | *sigh* | Feb 22 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | KILL KILL KILL | Feb 22 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | DEEELEEETE! | Feb 22 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | EXTERMINATE! | Feb 22 17:48 |
| fewt | dubya must make hot dogs | Feb 22 17:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] trmanco: Lamborghini Murcielago http://t.co/VVf0it3o | Feb 22 17:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] trmanco: Lamborghini Aventador http://t.co/NM5eltip | Feb 22 17:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] trmanco: The Koenigsegg Agera R. 5 liter v8. 0-100 in 3 seconds flat. Hell yeah!!! http://t.co/BpIqXEb6 | Feb 22 17:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] trmanco: Koenigsegg Agera http://t.co/33YkN9ZQ | Feb 22 17:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] trmanco: Koenigsegg CCX http://t.co/ESM6B7f1 | Feb 22 17:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] trmanco: Zonda. Hope you like Red. http://t.co/t6S9cvWz | Feb 22 17:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] trmanco: Lamborghini http://t.co/bboBsQ13 | Feb 22 17:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] trmanco: Bugatti Veyron. http://t.co/a5NEx9Hs | Feb 22 17:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] trmanco: McLaren F1 http://t.co/ANi4Gi84 | Feb 22 17:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] trmanco: Koenigsegg Agera R http://t.co/nxDX3wXu | Feb 22 17:48 | |
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| DaemonFC | KDE 4 has avoided gratuitous hard dependencies on external items like KDE 3 had | Feb 22 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | Xine and aRts are both dead | Feb 22 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | if your applications use Phonon and the underlying multimedia engine changes, the application doesn't care | Feb 22 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | and the user doesn't need to either | Feb 22 17:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] trmanco: Boys don't cry... only real men admit they do. | Feb 22 17:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] trmanco: Red http://t.co/UlyMO3Fg | Feb 22 17:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] trmanco: Inner Harbour, Victoria, British Columbia by @Richard Wong http://t.co/gDrGfF8M | Feb 22 17:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] trmanco: Bugatti http://t.co/ZArRD1ur | Feb 22 17:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] trmanco: Audi R8 V12 http://t.co/LLlgrQ6x | Feb 22 17:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] trmanco: Prindville Lamborghini Murcielago http://t.co/QcRnGLJC | Feb 22 17:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] trmanco: water http://t.co/hLpdnKEc | Feb 22 17:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] trmanco: Koenigsegg #vroom #design #aerodynamic http://t.co/9VSLlJNy | Feb 22 17:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] trmanco: Zonda R http://t.co/G4p2W1Gr | Feb 22 17:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trmanco/@trmanco] trmanco: Bugatti http://t.co/02pGS1aO | Feb 22 17:50 | |
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| fewt | I'd remove QT all together but some things still need it | Feb 22 17:50 |
| fewt | like VirtualBox | Feb 22 17:50 |
| fewt | if I remember correctly anyway | Feb 22 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | I believe recent Virtualbox releases use Qt4 now | Feb 22 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | according to apt, Virtualbox uses Qt4 | Feb 22 17:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Indigenous Peoples Walk Out Of WIPO Committee On Genetic Resources - http://bit.ly/yxWscb "calls into question legitimacy of negotiations" | Feb 22 17:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Beginners #permaculture garden - Appropedia: The sustainability wiki http://goo.gl/GcJyr #preppers + companion planting http://goo.gl/ivZW2 | Feb 22 17:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Indigenous Peoples Walk Out Of WIPO Committee On Genetic Resources | Intellectual Property Watch .::. Size~: 47.41 KB | Feb 22 17:52 |
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| DaemonFC | it has no dependencies on Qt3 | Feb 22 17:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ford's open source OpenXC platform as gateway to future high tech car gizmos - http://bit.ly/A1Dbtm it's the future | Feb 22 17:53 | |
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| DaemonFC | fewt: I think Adobe has given up trying to compete with open standards | Feb 22 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | and is embracing the fact that Flash is a legacy technology | Feb 22 17:54 |
| fewt | I dunno | Feb 22 17:54 |
| fewt | they wouldn't have moved to pepper if that were true | Feb 22 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | Apple and Microsoft have joined in the efforts to kill it | Feb 22 17:54 |
| fewt | looks like ppapi was created to address problems with npapi | Feb 22 17:54 |
| fewt | and Mozilla is too proud to move to it. | Feb 22 17:54 |
| fewt | imho of course | Feb 22 17:54 |
| fewt | reading it, it makes sense why they would do it | Feb 22 17:55 |
| fewt | sucks for us though, in the short term. | Feb 22 17:55 |
| fewt | fine as long as 11.x still works with content | Feb 22 17:55 |
| DaemonFC | I think Mozilla will be singing a different tune now | Feb 22 17:55 |
| fewt | Mozilla is a dead technology. | Feb 22 17:56 |
| *fewt jokes | Feb 22 17:56 | |
| DaemonFC | Flash illustrates how dependent people are on the unexplained and erratic decisions of a proprietary software company | Feb 22 17:56 |
| fewt | Same could be true for anything else though. | Feb 22 17:56 |
| fewt | OSS projects die all the time | Feb 22 17:56 |
| fewt | the source is available, sure but without any effort to update and maintain it? | Feb 22 17:57 |
| fewt | may as well have been closed. | Feb 22 17:57 |
| fewt | because it will eventually stop working | Feb 22 17:57 |
| fewt | like GNOME 2 | Feb 22 17:57 |
| fewt | or stop building | Feb 22 17:57 |
| fewt | not working | Feb 22 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | they usually die to make room for something better | Feb 22 17:57 |
| fewt | sure, usually | Feb 22 17:57 |
| fewt | I agree | Feb 22 17:57 |
| fewt | not always though. | Feb 22 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | and if their source code is worth picking through to salvage, that happens | Feb 22 17:57 |
| fewt | sometimes | Feb 22 17:57 |
| fewt | absolutely | Feb 22 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | when a proprietary software company declares something dead, there is no picking up the ball and running with it | Feb 22 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | it's dead | Feb 22 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | forever | Feb 22 17:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Data for the public good - http://oreil.ly/wsoK5E sounds interesting; free download with registration #opendata | Feb 22 17:58 | |
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| fewt | Fuduntu.org and Fuduntu forum have been considered down by users since last sat | Feb 22 17:58 |
| fewt | turns out project web has been throttled | Feb 22 17:59 |
| fewt | no warning. :( | Feb 22 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | it's sad when there is a useful program that is proprietary that simply dies or becomes unsupported or the company vanishes | Feb 22 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | if Opera Software went out of business, we're talking potentially millions of lines of code that nobody can ever use again | Feb 22 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | and decades of wasted effort | Feb 22 18:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] γεια σου και καλο βράδυ @O_Kanalarhis. | Feb 22 18:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana I thought that, after publishing under a license that permits sharing and twisting, you'd be better off keeping notes intact | Feb 22 18:00 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/90995945 http://identi.ca/notice/90995948 | Feb 22 18:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-12 16:59:50 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Yes strong feelings. I realise you are the editor, but what did DM say not avaialable elsewhere. It is like promoting MS .. | Feb 22 18:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-12 16:59:52 UTC - Identi.ca: .. when they say something right once in ten years. | Feb 22 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | it's sad when something gets to that point and just dies, because it illustrates how futile it is for users to depend upon it | Feb 22 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | when whether or not it has a future is hitched to whatever company owns it | Feb 22 18:01 |
| fewt | DaemonFC: I don't disagree. | Feb 22 18:01 |
| fewt | DaemonFC: but that's the right of the author. :) | Feb 22 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | how is it Adobe's right to pollute the web with their garbage? | Feb 22 18:02 |
| DaemonFC | and then to just abandon a sizable chunk of users who have no way to access that data | Feb 22 18:02 |
| DaemonFC | the DOJ needs to look into this Chrome-Adobe deal | Feb 22 18:02 |
| fewt | Why, blame Mozilla | Feb 22 18:02 |
| fewt | They were given the opportunity and turned up their noses | Feb 22 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | it's not Mozilla's fault | Feb 22 18:03 |
| fewt | it's documented on Mozilla's website | Feb 22 18:03 |
| fewt | There is no case there. | Feb 22 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | NPAPI is a small and simple API that works | Feb 22 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | is relatively stable | Feb 22 18:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open innovation--the passion behind the @CivComs community by @nickgrossman http://red.ht/xUEDqh #opengov | Feb 22 18:03 | |
| DaemonFC | and has existed for many many years | Feb 22 18:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Open innovation--the passion behind the Civic Commons community | opensource.com .::. Size~: 54.3 KB | Feb 22 18:03 |
| fewt | like you implied before | Feb 22 18:03 |
| fewt | it's death will make room for something better | Feb 22 18:04 |
| fewt | like ppapi | Feb 22 18:04 |
| fewt | ;) | Feb 22 18:04 |
| DaemonFC | I think the goal should be browsers which don't have a plug in API | Feb 22 18:04 |
| DaemonFC | because it's unnecessary | Feb 22 18:04 |
| fewt | I don't know about that | Feb 22 18:04 |
| DaemonFC | Chrome still has the biggest plug-in related problem that has ever existed | Feb 22 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | anything can put one there and the browser will run it | Feb 22 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | there goes your security | Feb 22 18:05 |
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| DaemonFC | they should remove the plug-in API and board over it | Feb 22 18:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] TeK > #Ubuntu para #Android traz o desktop para o smartphone http://goo.gl/cdeGn + ubtuntu tv = smartphone becomes a media center | Feb 22 18:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When Proprietary Software Companies Speak for Open Source http://ur1.ca/8b4kk #foss | Feb 22 18:07 | |
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| DaemonFC | if they were concerned with security and not just about making sure that viewers for proprietary content could load and do anything | Feb 22 18:07 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] RT @documentfreedom #ansol .@digiges .@docufoundation #epfsug !fsfe .@kde .@osballiance are supporting #dfd http://ur1.ca/8b46h What abo ... | Feb 22 18:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @documentfreedom #ansol .@digiges .@docufoundation #epfsug !fsfe .@kde .@osballiance are supporting #dfd http://ur1.ca/8b46h What abo ... | Feb 22 18:08 | |
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| DaemonFC | fewt: What about pdf.js? | Feb 22 18:10 |
| fewt | Wjat | Feb 22 18:10 |
| fewt | heh | Feb 22 18:10 |
| fewt | what's pdf.js? | Feb 22 18:10 |
| DaemonFC | Google just lobbed some proprietary Adobe software into Chrome that leaks like a sieve to render PDFs | Feb 22 18:10 |
| DaemonFC | but Mozilla is writing pdf.js under the Mozilla tri-license, to render PDFs in Firefox with zero vulnerabilities beyond what is in Firefox's Javascript engine | Feb 22 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/pdfjs/ | Feb 22 18:11 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] CCAT rocket #stove - Appropedia: The sustainability wiki http://goo.gl/ttSMH #preppers | Feb 22 18:12 | |
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| DaemonFC | eventually that will end up in Firefox | Feb 22 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | https://github.com/mozilla/pdf.js | Feb 22 18:13 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #Italy adopts national #law telling public #administrations to consider using open source #joinup http://t.co/xkNJWCZK (via @sjig) | Feb 22 18:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Attacks on our rights Medical tyranny and the Second Amendment http://goo.gl/CDZdl #preppers #bigpharma #usa #policestate | Feb 22 18:13 | |
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| Ziomatrix | DaemonFC: funny nobody seems to care about HP essentially open sourcing WebOS | Feb 22 18:14 |
| Ziomatrix | DaemonFC: how open is the Apache model? | Feb 22 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | open for business | Feb 22 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Feb 22 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | of course ,that's all the open source crowd cares about | Feb 22 18:15 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Joy Division 'Shadowplay@ | Feb 22 18:18 | |
| Ziomatrix | here's the gist: http://bit.ly/A6saia and http://bit.ly/wdpQOn | Feb 22 18:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: webOS Open-Source plan announced and Enyo Open-Sourced! | Featured, News, System, Tools, TouchPad, Utility, webOS |webOSroundup .::. Size~: 44.31 KB | Feb 22 18:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: HP announces Isis Project; WebOS Internals looking into "Tech Preview" | Featured, News |webOSroundup .::. Size~: 26.32 KB | Feb 22 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | wait for a platform to fail then chuck it over a wall | Feb 22 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | use the opportunity to slander Android | Feb 22 18:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Joy Division 'Shadowplay' starts like a half dead cat crawling out of a not quite closed sack. | Feb 22 18:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Oracle Lessens Android Demands, Red Hat Suggests Cure to Trolls, Debian Adopts New Patent Policy http://goo.gl/yqpJg #swpats | Feb 22 18:22 | |
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| Ziomatrix | DaemonFC: basically, except HP claims they still want to release a new WebOS tablet by 2013, perhaps they can get their act together and put a Radiance display in it. | Feb 22 18:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Cop tasers handcuffed girl and now she is braindead! 500 Now dead - YouTube http://goo.gl/tzgYd #usa #policestate | Feb 22 18:23 | |
| Ziomatrix | DaemonFC: their loss is still our gain, perhaps the Mozilla Foundation can utilize Enyo for their mobile OS. | Feb 22 18:23 |
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| Ziomatrix | DaemonFC: leave it to PressTV to report it, in other news web designer still on death row in Iran for making an image uploader for a porn site while living in Canada. http://bit.ly/yeoSvk | Feb 22 18:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: World News: Saeed Malekpour: A Canadian on Iran’s death row - thestar.com .::. Size~: 129.57 KB | Feb 22 18:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] WARNING: Harper/Toews want 1984 Big Brother Government (Bill C-30) - YouTube http://goo.gl/bBy99 #canada #policestate | Feb 22 18:27 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: WARNING: Harper/Toews want 1984 Big Brother Government (Bill C-30) - YouTube .::. Size~: 130.96 KB | Feb 22 18:27 |
| Ziomatrix | DaemonFC: I still don't condone what you posted. Police should really learn when and where to shoot those things. | Feb 22 18:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Joy Division - 24 Hours............nice. | Feb 22 18:30 | |
| DaemonFC | what did I say? | Feb 22 18:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Day in, day out | Feb 22 18:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Ever-Changing Linux Skillset http://ur1.ca/8b63f #linux | Feb 22 18:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Keiser Report: Hang-a-Banker-a-Week! (E252) - YouTube http://goo.gl/Behpf #bankingsystem - sounds good! | Feb 22 18:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] damn #CSS is frustrating at times ARGHHHHH!!!!!! | Feb 22 18:45 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Ever-Changing Linux Skillset | Linux.com .::. Size~: 36.58 KB | Feb 22 18:45 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The advantages of free software http://ur1.ca/8awqj practical advantages | Feb 22 18:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ECJ Referral: No Legal Debate Will Make #ACTA Legitimate http://ur1.ca/8b678... http://b1t.it/aTVV | Feb 22 18:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #kde share like connect artwork http://ur1.ca/8b687 #linux | Feb 22 18:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Why the Latino Vote in Arizona Could Be Decisive in 2012 | Swampland | TIME.com http://goo.gl/jrDLc people, vote 4 Ron Paul... | Feb 22 18:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: aseigo: share like connect artwork .::. Size~: 85.56 KB | Feb 22 18:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why the Latino Vote in Arizona Could Be Decisive in 2012 | Swampland | TIME.com .::. Size~: 75.38 KB | Feb 22 18:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Robert Johnson- Traveling Riverside Blues #music | Feb 22 18:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Death Of Trash On Linux? http://ur1.ca/8b6b1 #flash #adobe | Feb 22 18:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Death Of Flash On Linux? | Muktware .::. Size~: 34.95 KB | Feb 22 18:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How the CRTC Helped Stifle Internet Throttling http://ur1.ca/8b6bf #internet | Feb 22 18:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why do we need academic journals in the first place? - http://bit.ly/Aff67l a question more & more people are asking themselves #openaccess | Feb 22 18:57 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Tyee – How the CRTC Helped Stifle Internet Throttling .::. Size~: 46.95 KB | Feb 22 18:57 |
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| schestowitz | academic journals are an academic currency | Feb 22 18:58 |
| schestowitz | for the time being | Feb 22 18:58 |
| schestowitz | a silly way to assess success because: | Feb 22 18:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA-Proteste gehen weiter – Strategieänderung in einigen Städten - http://bit.ly/yYsyIM I still worry this is too early | Feb 22 18:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #FlightGear 2.6.0 Released with Massive Changes http://ur1.ca/8b6dk | Feb 22 18:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ACTA-Proteste gehen weiter – Strategieänderung in einigen Städten › netzpolitik.org .::. Size~: 45.91 KB | Feb 22 18:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: FlightGear 2.6.0 Released with Massive Changes ~ Ubuntu Vibes .::. Size~: 197.74 KB | Feb 22 18:58 |
| schestowitz | 1) researchers resubmit the same work to many confs and journals | Feb 22 18:58 |
| schestowitz | so there is dusplication | Feb 22 18:58 |
| schestowitz | they pretend it's new work, cumulatively | Feb 22 18:59 |
| schestowitz | 2) they stick their names next to students' names, where the students do all the real work inc. the writing | Feb 22 18:59 |
| schestowitz | the publishers make a profit at the back of all this | Feb 22 18:59 |
| schestowitz | free editor, authors, peer review | Feb 22 18:59 |
| schestowitz | they make all the profit | Feb 22 19:00 |
| schestowitz | scam | Feb 22 19:00 |
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| schestowitz | hey lenngray | Feb 22 19:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu Global Jam 2012: 2nd - 4th March http://ur1.ca/8b6fd | Feb 22 19:02 | |
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| DaemonFC | Ubuntu still isn't shipping gnash 0.8.10 in Precise | Feb 22 19:02 |
| schestowitz | lenngray: you never talk | Feb 22 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | just a snapshot of it from November | Feb 22 19:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #PCLinuxOS 2012-2 "Phoenix Xfce" has been released http://ur1.ca/8b6gp | Feb 22 19:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: World Of Linux: PCLinuxOS 2012-2 "Phoenix Xfce" has been released .::. Size~: 104.22 KB | Feb 22 19:03 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Are you planning to switch to Googlesoft Explorer? | Feb 22 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Feb 22 19:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Wednesday's security updates http://ur1.ca/8b6hl | Feb 22 19:05 | |
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| cubezzz | schestowitz, another Judas_PhD? :) | Feb 22 19:05 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: just checkin' | Feb 22 19:09 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I am happy with rekonq most of the time | Feb 22 19:09 |
| schestowitz | doesn't spy on me | Feb 22 19:09 |
| schestowitz | scroogle is still down, I have no search engine, sometimes I use startpage in the interim | Feb 22 19:09 |
| cubezzz | scroolge is history | Feb 22 19:09 |
| cubezzz | scroogle | Feb 22 19:09 |
| DaemonFC | Googlesoft Explorer is ZOMGTHEFUTURE! | Feb 22 19:10 |
| schestowitz | how do you know for sure? | Feb 22 19:10 |
| schestowitz | It has been around for so long | Feb 22 19:10 |
| cubezzz | the guy packed it in schestowitz | Feb 22 19:10 |
| schestowitz | he did? any link? | Feb 22 19:10 |
| cubezzz | on slashdot | Feb 22 19:10 |
| schestowitz | oh | Feb 22 19:10 |
| schestowitz | crap | Feb 22 19:10 |
| schestowitz | !google scroogle dead | Feb 22 19:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Scroogle Scraper Dead? | http://www.moneymakerdiscussion.com/forum/general-discussion/68100-scroogle-scraper-dead.html | Feb 22 19:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - THE SEARCH ENGINE WARS!? Google vs. Scroogle!?? « Heroic ... | http://heroictimes.wordpress.com/2012/02/21/the-search-engine-wars-google-vs-scroogle/ | Feb 22 19:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Google is Blocking Scroogle - says they are a Bot - Security ... | http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r26795603-Google-is-Blocking-Scroogle-says-they-are-a-Bot~start%3D40 | Feb 22 19:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - LXer: Scroogle Scraper maybe RIP.: LXer Meta Forum | http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/30808/ | Feb 22 19:10 |
| XFaCE | cubezzz: Don't say that, or the Brandt guy will make you a part of the "conspiracy" | Feb 22 19:11 |
| cubezzz | ok | Feb 22 19:11 |
| schestowitz | uaully it comes back | Feb 22 19:11 |
| schestowitz | I read they had been DDOSed | Feb 22 19:11 |
| XFaCE | TechRights: a bunch of wild west hooligans on the internet | Feb 22 19:11 |
| schestowitz | http://www.moneymakerdiscussion.com/forum/general-discussion/68100-scroogle-scraper-dead.html | Feb 22 19:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Scroogle Scraper Dead? .::. Size~: 58.39 KB | Feb 22 19:11 |
| XFaCE | In concert with the secret wikipedia organization and the evil Encyclopedia Dramatica | Feb 22 19:11 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: shoot, I need to shave my head again | Feb 22 19:12 |
| schestowitz | been 2 days | Feb 22 19:12 |
| XFaCE | lol | Feb 22 19:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #Adobe #Flash for #Linux will only be available for #Chrome http://ur1.ca/8ax94 #html #html5 | Feb 22 19:13 | |
| cubezzz | it really is gone though | Feb 22 19:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Adobe Flash For Linux Will Only Be Available For Chrome ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 62.5 KB | Feb 22 19:13 |
| XFaCE | And carve TR in your forehead? | Feb 22 19:13 |
| cubezzz | no, Kildall carve Kildall on your forehead :) | Feb 22 19:14 |
| cubezzz | it's more subversive :) | Feb 22 19:14 |
| XFaCE | Hey, I got a message back from Dick Toews! | Feb 22 19:14 |
| XFaCE | Sorry | Feb 22 19:14 |
| XFaCE | Dick Woes | Feb 22 19:14 |
| cubezzz | http://searchengineland.com/scroogles-gone-heres-who-still-offers-private-searching-112275 | Feb 22 19:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Scroogle's Gone? Here's Who Still Offers Private Searching .::. Size~: 89.51 KB | Feb 22 19:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Help us Open Source NASA.gov http://ur1.ca/8b6qp they need to dump MSFT first | Feb 22 19:15 | |
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| XFaCE | ==BEGIN MESSAGE= | Feb 22 19:15 |
| XFaCE | Thank you for contacting my office regarding Bill C-30, the Protecting Children from Internet Predators Act. | Feb 22 19:15 |
| XFaCE | Feb 22 19:15 | |
| XFaCE | Canada's laws currently do not adequately protect Canadians from online exploitation and we think there is widespread agreement that this is a problem. | Feb 22 19:15 |
| XFaCE | Feb 22 19:16 | |
| XFaCE | We want to update our laws while striking the right balance between combating crime and protecting privacy. | Feb 22 19:16 |
| XFaCE | Feb 22 19:16 | |
| XFaCE | Let me be very clear: the police will not be able to read emails or view web activity unless they obtain a warrant issued by a judge and we have constructed safeguards to protect the privacy of Canadians, including audits by privacy commissioners. | Feb 22 19:16 |
| XFaCE | Feb 22 19:16 | |
| XFaCE | What's needed most is an open discussion about how to better protect Canadians from online crime. We will therefore send this legislation directly to Parliamentary Committee for a full examination of the best ways to protect Canadians while respecting their privacy. | Feb 22 19:16 |
| XFaCE | Feb 22 19:16 | |
| XFaCE | For your information, I have included some myths and facts below regarding Bill C-30 in its current state. | Feb 22 19:16 |
| XFaCE | Feb 22 19:16 | |
| XFaCE | Sincerely, | Feb 22 19:16 |
| XFaCE | Feb 22 19:16 | |
| XFaCE | Vic Toews | Feb 22 19:16 |
| XFaCE | Member of Parliament for Provencher | Feb 22 19:16 |
| XFaCE | Feb 22 19:16 | |
| XFaCE | Feb 22 19:16 | |
| XFaCE | Myth: Lawful Access legislation infringes on the privacy of Canadians. | Feb 22 19:16 |
| XFaCE | Feb 22 19:16 | |
| XFaCE | Fact: Our Government puts a high priority on protecting the privacy of law-abiding Canadians. Current practices of accessing the actual content of communications with a legal authorization will not change. | Feb 22 19:16 |
| XFaCE | Feb 22 19:16 | |
| XFaCE | Myth: Having access to basic subscriber information means that authorities can monitor personal communications and activities. | Feb 22 19:16 |
| XFaCE | Feb 22 19:17 | |
| XFaCE | Fact: This has nothing to do with monitoring emails or web browsing. Basic subscriber information would be limited to a customer’s name, address, telephone number, email address, Internet Protocol (IP) address, and the name of the telecommunications service provider. It absolutely does not include the content of emails, phones calls or online activities. | Feb 22 19:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Help us Open Source NASA.gov http://ur1.ca/8b6qp they need to dump MSFT first | Feb 22 19:17 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Help us Open Source NASA.gov - open.NASA .::. Size~: 21.71 KB | Feb 22 19:17 |
| XFaCE | Feb 22 19:17 | |
| XFaCE | Myth: This legislation does not benefit average Canadians and only gives authorities more power. | Feb 22 19:17 |
| XFaCE | Feb 22 19:17 | |
| XFaCE | Fact: As a result of technological innovations, criminals and terrorists have | Feb 22 19:17 |
| XFaCE | =END MESSAGE= | Feb 22 19:17 |
| XFaCE | Tl'dr: Propaganda | Feb 22 19:17 |
| XFaCE | Dishonestly, | Feb 22 19:17 |
| cubezzz | uh, pastebin might be an idea here | Feb 22 19:17 |
| XFaCE | Dick Woes | Feb 22 19:17 |
| cubezzz | it's scrolling off the screen! Quick, activate screen capture! :-P | Feb 22 19:18 |
| XFaCE | lol | Feb 22 19:18 |
| XFaCE | here's the rest | Feb 22 19:18 |
| XFaCE | =BEGIN REST= | Feb 22 19:18 |
| XFaCE | found ways to hide their illegal activities. This legislation will keep Canadians safer by putting police on the same footing as those who seek to harm us. | Feb 22 19:18 |
| XFaCE | Feb 22 19:18 | |
| XFaCE | Myth: Basic subscriber information is way beyond “phone book information”. | Feb 22 19:18 |
| XFaCE | Feb 22 19:18 | |
| XFaCE | Fact: The basic subscriber information described in the proposed legislation is the modern day equivalent of information that is in the phone book. Individuals frequently freely share this information online and in many cases it is searchable and quite public. | Feb 22 19:18 |
| XFaCE | Feb 22 19:18 | |
| XFaCE | Myth: Police and telecommunications service providers will now be required to maintain databases with information collected on Canadians. | Feb 22 19:18 |
| XFaCE | Feb 22 19:18 | |
| XFaCE | Fact: This proposed legislation will not require either police or telecommunications service providers to create databases with information collected on Canadians. | Feb 22 19:18 |
| XFaCE | Feb 22 19:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Canonical CEO admits Unity was a painful change - The Inquirer http://bit.ly/w6g238 | Feb 22 19:18 | |
| XFaCE | Myth: “Warrantless access” to customer information will give police and government unregulated access to our personal information. | Feb 22 19:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Canonical CEO admits Unity was a painful change - The Inquirer .::. Size~: 63.72 KB | Feb 22 19:18 |
| XFaCE | Feb 22 19:18 | |
| XFaCE | Fact: Federal legislation already allows telecommunications service providers to voluntarily release basic subscriber information to authorities without a warrant. This Bill acts as a counterbalance by adding a number of checks and balances which do not exist today, and clearly lists which basic subscriber identifiers authorities can access. | Feb 22 19:18 |
| XFaCE | =End Rest= | Feb 22 19:18 |
| XFaCE | Now excuse me, I have to wash the slime from my eyes | Feb 22 19:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Where are you on Google+ @thisisparker ? Just heard you on This Week in Law | Feb 22 19:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Upsetting trend I noticed: Canonical trying to dismiss pro-Linux critics as kids when in fact Ubuntu started from Mark's boob fascination | Feb 22 19:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] People who are pro-Linux and not 100% pro-Ubuntu are not agitators. If Canonical cannot accept criticism, it'll alienate pro-Linux folks. | Feb 22 19:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] The PRACTICAL Advantages of Free Software http://ur1.ca/8awqj #foss #gnu #linux #microsoft #windows #adobe #autodesk | Feb 22 19:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Infographic On The Greatest Gun Salesman In America: President #Obama | ZeroHedge http://goo.gl/vSjVCv yup SHTF is coming... #preppers | Feb 22 19:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Canonical insists it does not suppress the community. How easy it is to hide censorship/marginalisation of Mono unrest in Ubuntu Forums. | Feb 22 19:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Doctor who criticised #NHS reforms is threatened with #disciplinary action http://gu.com/p/35jj7 no surprise | Feb 22 19:22 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/91002666 | Feb 22 19:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-12 19:19:19 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Boob fascination? | Feb 22 19:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ford's open source OpenXC platform as gateway to future high tech car gizmos http://goo.gl/cDwaz #ford | Feb 22 19:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] What do you call a criminal businesperson... a businessperson. No charges to see here move on. | Feb 22 19:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] True this ! http://ur1.ca/8b6x2 | Feb 22 19:25 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ford's open source OpenXC platform as gateway to future high tech car gizmos .::. Size~: 44.12 KB | Feb 22 19:25 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mageia 2 beta1 http://ur1.ca/8b6yk and still no word from #mandriva | Feb 22 19:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @thistleweb #Doctor who criticised #NHS reforms is threatened with #disciplinary action http://gu.com/p/35jj7 no surprise | Feb 22 19:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Doctor who criticised NHS reforms is threatened with disciplinary action | Society | The Guardian .::. Size~: 119.21 KB | Feb 22 19:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Ziua României la Colegiul Europei din Belgia http://ur1.ca/89px4 #romania #belgia #europe #belgium | Feb 22 19:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mac OSuX 10.8 vs. Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Performance http://ur1.ca/8b70l | Feb 22 19:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ziua României la Colegiul Europei din Belgia « Romania. Altfel .::. Size~: 13.9 KB | Feb 22 19:30 |
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| XFaCE | schestowitz: Isn't that nice? Canadian gov't uses Ms Office | Feb 22 19:30 |
| cubezzz | blah | Feb 22 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Porn-portal-s-user-database-open-and-accessible-on-the-net-1440233.html | Feb 22 19:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Porn portal's user database open and accessible on the net - The H Security: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.3 KB | Feb 22 19:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Alternative Cinnamon PPA For Ubuntu Users http://identi.ca/url/67027901 | Feb 22 19:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Alternative Cinnamon PPA For Ubuntu Users ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 62.02 KB | Feb 22 19:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Transformer Prime gets #Ubuntu with bootloader unlock release http://ur1.ca/8b736... http://b1t.it/aTXa | Feb 22 19:33 | |
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| schestowitz | XFaCE: same here | Feb 22 19:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Technology Activist Richard Stallman to Discuss “Copyright and Community in the Age of Computer Networks” http://goo.gl/lzumh | Feb 22 19:35 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Technology Activist Richard Stallman to Discuss “Copyright and Community in the Age of Computer Networks” at Cogswell College | Virtual-Strategy Magazine .::. Size~: 32.67 KB | Feb 22 19:35 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Moştenirea monarhică nu este egală cu moştenirea civilă http://ur1.ca/8b75r #romania #royal #monarchy #law #rege | Feb 22 19:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 10 Things You Didn’t Know About the President’s Secret Army - Mental Floss http://goo.gl/zC2EJ #usa #shadowgov #praetorianguard | Feb 22 19:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] Subtle interactions in the embedded world http://ur1.ca/8b778 | Feb 22 19:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Subscription required [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 4.79 KB | Feb 22 19:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Please bittorrent WikiLeaks Insurance release 2012-02-22 (65GB) http://t.co/iBE2siYx | Feb 22 19:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #DMCA Takedown Service Tells Copyright Companies: 'Adapt Your Business To The New Digital World' http://goo.gl/DCAK8 | Feb 22 19:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] RT @OKFN: The Open Data Handbook v.1.0 is here - the why, what and how of open data! Read all about it: bit.ly/Ahqo2R #opendata | Feb 22 19:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Being a telly newsperson must be great you can find someone to say anything you you want. | Feb 22 19:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Raspberry Pi Fedora Remix Launched (video) http://ur1.ca/8b7d9 | Feb 22 19:48 | |
| DaemonFC | the only thing that can really be said about "piracy" is that when you insist on a business model from the 1980s, customers might find it easier to get what they want through "alternative methods" | Feb 22 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | the fact that it's free is probably one of the reasons, but it's not # 1 | Feb 22 19:51 |
| prurigro | http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204792404577229074023195322.html | Feb 22 19:51 |
| prurigro | take a look at that badboy | Feb 22 19:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Fearing The West, #Putin Pledges Biggest Military Buildup Since Cold War http://goo.gl/9cQQe #russia #mic | Feb 22 19:52 | |
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| DaemonFC | in the few cases where the MPAA has decided to use modern technology they put up a barrier to people who want to use it but are unwilling to tolerate DRM and proprietary software that may not work on their system | Feb 22 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | asking that someone use Windows just to watch Netflix on their computer is more likely to result in them going to The Pirate Bay than if you had just decided the DRM can't be working that well since everything you have and more IS ALREADY ON The Pirate Bay and just cut the crap | Feb 22 19:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cornell University Researchers Grant Top Grade to Red Hat Storage http://goo.gl/YGazU #Cornell #Redhat | Feb 22 19:53 | |
| DaemonFC | I can't say I can blame anyone for going to The Pirate Bay when the industry insists on being stupid | Feb 22 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | and locking their offerings up so tight that customers that want to pay them can't | Feb 22 19:54 |
| prurigro | yup | Feb 22 19:55 |
| prurigro | unless its natively supported on my OS and free of DRM | Feb 22 19:55 |
| prurigro | and ads | Feb 22 19:55 |
| prurigro | its pretty hard to support someone | Feb 22 19:55 |
| prurigro | I prefer to go the route of alternative media though | Feb 22 19:56 |
| prurigro | personally | Feb 22 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | the industry has done everything they can to stop the people who are "pirating" things from paying them | Feb 22 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | and then complains when they don't pay them | Feb 22 19:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is schestowitz from identi.ca with 78 dents! | Feb 22 19:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Star Trek scripts...hand built by robots. | Feb 22 19:58 | |
| sebsebseb | So what you guys think of teh Flash and Linux news? | Feb 22 20:01 |
| cubezzz | what news? | Feb 22 20:02 |
| prurigro | what flash and linux news/ | Feb 22 20:02 |
| prurigro | ? | Feb 22 20:02 |
| XFaCE | sebsebseb: Eh? | Feb 22 20:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Private #Dokuwiki on multiple computers using Dropbox « Primal Cortex’s Weblog http://goo.gl/tF41N #tips | Feb 22 20:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] why is scobeliser a "featured" denter? look at the last dent http://goo.gl/E5smX - he doesn't use #Identica, he uses #Twitter | Feb 22 20:03 | |
| cubezzz | oh Chrome only, I think you mean | Feb 22 20:03 |
| cubezzz | Adobe is discontinuing Linux as a standalone download | Feb 22 20:04 |
| cubezzz | er, Flash for Linux rather | Feb 22 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | Googlesoft Explorer | Feb 22 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Feb 22 20:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @thistleweb In love with the database. Currently i'm mostly focused on the i-webs later | Feb 22 20:05 | |
| DaemonFC | with Trash for ActiveG | Feb 22 20:05 |
| sebsebseb | Yep that's the big news now | Feb 22 20:05 |
| sebsebseb | quite a few aritcles | Feb 22 20:05 |
| sebsebseb | or at least three | Feb 22 20:05 |
| sebsebseb | here's one | Feb 22 20:05 |
| sebsebseb | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA2MDc | Feb 22 20:05 |
| cubezzz | Google is the new Microsoft :-/ | Feb 22 20:06 |
| sebsebseb | well the thing Google are supporting should be able to run it in other browsers | Feb 22 20:06 |
| sebsebseb | ,but Mozilla not interested | Feb 22 20:06 |
| sebsebseb | oh and the comments quite interseting for that phoronix link | Feb 22 20:06 |
| cubezzz | someone will port it maybe? | Feb 22 20:06 |
| sebsebseb | well it's some new thing | Feb 22 20:06 |
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| sebsebseb | that Chrome will use to do Flash on Linux | Feb 22 20:06 |
| sebsebseb | ,but | Feb 22 20:06 |
| sebsebseb | that thing can only really be used for Flash | Feb 22 20:06 |
| sebsebseb | and Mozilla apparantly don't want to support it | Feb 22 20:06 |
| cubezzz | well it's not too different | Feb 22 20:07 |
| cubezzz | Flash is closed source, full stop | Feb 22 20:07 |
| prurigro | yea screw flash | Feb 22 20:07 |
| prurigro | I'm done with it | Feb 22 20:07 |
| sebsebseb | however Flash 11.2 wil have updates for five years | Feb 22 20:07 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: well something about something going open in that article as well | Feb 22 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, they've already frozen Flash in time with Flash 11.1 | Feb 22 20:08 |
| cubezzz | you can buffer flash video | Feb 22 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | which is where they stopped updating it for mobile browsers | Feb 22 20:08 |
| sebsebseb | I think Flash should be replaced | Feb 22 20:09 |
| sebsebseb | web developers can do that if they wrok together to do so | Feb 22 20:09 |
| cubezzz | there's gnash | Feb 22 20:09 |
| sebsebseb | no I mean properly | Feb 22 20:09 |
| sebsebseb | replaced | Feb 22 20:09 |
| sebsebseb | with HTML 5 and web m and that kind of thing | Feb 22 20:09 |
| sebsebseb | then again I don't mind Flash if it works that much to be honest, but yeah it's good to replace it now with these other technologies | Feb 22 20:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Adobe Flash v11.2 and Above Will Only Be Available For Chrome Browser on Linux http://goo.gl/Ms8JH WTF? #dirtytricks #fvr | Feb 22 20:10 | |
| DaemonFC | there'd be nothing wrong with gnash if it worked | Feb 22 20:10 |
| prurigro | as a sometimes web developer, I can tell you that I'd never consider using flash in a million years | Feb 22 20:10 |
| sebsebseb | Why not? | Feb 22 20:10 |
| cubezzz | no, me neither prurigro | Feb 22 20:10 |
| sebsebseb | and yeah I woudn't use it either | Feb 22 20:10 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: What happened to chrome? | Feb 22 20:10 |
| cubezzz | but there is the odd flash game which is kind of fun | Feb 22 20:10 |
| prurigro | those games could be made in html5 these days | Feb 22 20:11 |
| cubezzz | they could, yes :) | Feb 22 20:11 |
| XFaCE | didn't google make a flash to html5 converter? | Feb 22 20:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] These days, Canonical is all about putting #Ubuntu on televisions, smart phones, digital watches, etc.... | Feb 22 20:12 | |
| prurigro | did they? | Feb 22 20:12 |
| prurigro | I vaguely recall something along those lines | Feb 22 20:12 |
| cubezzz | hopefully html5 will take over | Feb 22 20:13 |
| XFaCE | yes, thet did | Feb 22 20:13 |
| cubezzz | seems like the most likely scenario | Feb 22 20:13 |
| fewt | cubezzz except Hulu claims it isn't good enough for them. | Feb 22 20:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] SAGE No More: the Usenix SAGE group is now the LISA SIG, after the Usenix conference: http://bit.ly/wa39Sh | Feb 22 20:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 30 Best Sources For Linux / *BSD / Unix Documentation On the Web http://goo.gl/8eP5u #floss #tips | Feb 22 20:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If #Linux Is Dead...this Is a Zombie Apocalypse! http://ur1.ca/8b7vl | Feb 22 20:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !linuxlibre 3.2.7-libre-lemote and 3.0.22-libre-lemote binary .debs for !gnewsense !yeeloong are now available | Feb 22 20:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Unity - one DE to ruin.....erm.....rule them all #LOTR | Feb 22 20:13 | |
| XFaCE | fewt: That's OK, I don't have hulu in my country anyway | Feb 22 20:14 |
| cubezzz | ditto :) | Feb 22 20:14 |
| prurigro | tritto! | Feb 22 20:14 |
| fewt | :/ | Feb 22 20:14 |
| fewt | shitto! | Feb 22 20:14 |
| *fewt laughs out loud | Feb 22 20:14 | |
| prurigro | lol | Feb 22 20:14 |
| cubezzz | as long as I can see my 1951 Dragnet episodes :) | Feb 22 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | it would be nice if you could make Firefox stop pestering you to install plugins you don't want | Feb 22 20:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | screw that | Feb 22 20:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | the 1980s movie | Feb 22 20:14 |
| cubezzz | public domain, take that copyright bozos! | Feb 22 20:15 |
| XFaCE | Diablo-D3 speaks! | Feb 22 20:15 |
| XFaCE | cubezzz: You know they can now recopyright the public domain in the US? | Feb 22 20:15 |
| prurigro | I believe one of the only things silverlight and flash can offer over html5 these days is DRM | Feb 22 20:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Watching a ch4 news report telling us about the brave anti government fighters. #NATOnews | Feb 22 20:15 | |
| MinceR | hulu can 1) die in a fire or 2) use java :> | Feb 22 20:15 |
| cubezzz | XFaCE, too late, I downloaded all the 50's Dragnets, at least all the ones that survived | Feb 22 20:15 |
| MinceR | the dragnet movie was great | Feb 22 20:16 |
| cubezzz | oh the 1980s movie yeah | Feb 22 20:16 |
| cubezzz | that was fun too | Feb 22 20:16 |
| fewt | MinceR: I don't think that argument would be effective when given to a non-technical person that just wants to watch tv. | Feb 22 20:16 |
| fewt | :D | Feb 22 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: According to their commercials, Hulu is ran by aliens who want to suck out your brains. They shouldn't be bothering with Windows users, there's barely a snack in it for them | Feb 22 20:16 |
| cubezzz | antennatv is showing all the 60's/70's Dragnet shows | Feb 22 20:16 |
| MinceR | fewt: i don't expect non-technical people to understand technical issues regarding Adobe Trash | Feb 22 20:17 |
| fewt | Right, they just want to "watch tv". | Feb 22 20:17 |
| MinceR | (or technical and legal issues regarding silver lie, for that matter) | Feb 22 20:17 |
| cubezzz | so put up an UHF antenna :) | Feb 22 20:17 |
| fewt | lol | Feb 22 20:17 |
| MinceR | trash doesn't run on a lot of tv-s :> | Feb 22 20:17 |
| fewt | I get one channel with an antenna :( | Feb 22 20:17 |
| cubezzz | I get about 40 | Feb 22 20:18 |
| cubezzz | I'm between Buffalo and Toronto | Feb 22 20:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Sorry it could be so many countries. Syria. | Feb 22 20:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !linuxlibre 3.2.7-libre (and 2.6.42.7-libre) binary rpms for freed-ora 17 (and 16) x86 and x86_64 are now available in -detesting | Feb 22 20:18 | |
| fewt | If I use my little TV, in the front room in the perfect position, I can get one channel | Feb 22 20:19 |
| fewt | otherwise, nothing. | Feb 22 20:19 |
| cubezzz | oh? where are you located? | Feb 22 20:19 |
| fewt | about 40 miles outside of Nashville, TN | Feb 22 20:19 |
| fewt | so my options are: Hulu + Netflix for < $20/mo or Dish / Cable for $40-$80/mo | Feb 22 20:20 |
| prurigro | or http://showrss.karmorra.info/ | Feb 22 20:24 |
| prurigro | :) | Feb 22 20:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | fewt: I just quit cable | Feb 22 20:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | $85/mo for 40 analog stations | Feb 22 20:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | fuck time warner | Feb 22 20:25 |
| prurigro | Diablo-D3, good shit man- I quit a couple years ago and haven't looked back | Feb 22 20:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | and hulu is dead anyhow | Feb 22 20:25 |
| fewt | Diablo-D3: I was paying $29/mo for ~4 years with Dish, but they decided to kill my package and the replacement package with the same channels was $89/mo | Feb 22 20:25 |
| fewt | I told them to go to hell | Feb 22 20:25 |
| fewt | and sent all their crap back to them | Feb 22 20:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | all the good programs are on hulu free, hulu plus does NOT contain the hulu free programs | Feb 22 20:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | and you need hulu plus to watch it on anything outside of a PC | Feb 22 20:26 |
| fewt | I use plus | Feb 22 20:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | roku? nope. ps3? nope. the few tvs and bluray players that can do it? nope. done do hulu free. | Feb 22 20:26 |
| fewt | but also use the web interface for web only stuff | Feb 22 20:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | plus has nothing on it, and its all extremely low quality 480p | Feb 22 20:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | no HD | Feb 22 20:26 |
| fewt | My better half would disagree | Feb 22 20:26 |
| fewt | heh | Feb 22 20:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | I mean, if it was like dvd quality (=~ 4 dot quality on netflix), that'd be fine | Feb 22 20:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | but its blocking and ringing badly | Feb 22 20:27 |
| fewt | I'm not going to disagree with you there | Feb 22 20:27 |
| fewt | but, when her shows come on she gets happy | Feb 22 20:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | and the roku app for hulu plus is fucking shit because hulu has an internal policy to make all clients look exactly alike | Feb 22 20:27 |
| fewt | that's worth whatever I have to pay | Feb 22 20:27 |
| scientes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRtFpFuCjWg&feature=related | Feb 22 20:27 |
| fewt | Oh, I don't use roku | Feb 22 20:27 |
| fewt | I use the PS3 app | Feb 22 20:27 |
| scientes | NOOOOOOOOOOO where is the english!!!!!!!!!!!!! | Feb 22 20:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | that means, in the case of a roku, no native widgets or drawing | Feb 22 20:28 |
| fewt | much better than the crap apps in dvd players | Feb 22 20:28 |
| fewt | and roku | Feb 22 20:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | so its slow as fuck | Feb 22 20:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | fewt: eeeh | Feb 22 20:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | ps3 barely beats a roku in speed | Feb 22 20:28 |
| fewt | really? | Feb 22 20:28 |
| scientes | I'm suddenly in the position of alot of other people when they come around english stuff | Feb 22 20:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | rokus use chipsets usually reserved for mid to high end cell phones and tablets | Feb 22 20:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | its the hulu plus alone on roku thats completely fucked up | Feb 22 20:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | fewt: like, for example, the netflix app on roku is muuuuuch faster than the netflix app on android | Feb 22 20:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | and its as fast as the ps3 one | Feb 22 20:29 |
| fewt | So the roku app isn't the same screwed over app that's bundled with bluray players? | Feb 22 20:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | no | Feb 22 20:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | the guys in the netflix client team released a huge whitepaper on how much different platforms suck | Feb 22 20:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | all the clients are nearly identical, but they use native widgets and drawing where available | Feb 22 20:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | what they do is enable or disable features based on things like RAM and CPU power and shit | Feb 22 20:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | smart bluray players and smart tvs are the worst | Feb 22 20:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | no ram, no cpu power | Feb 22 20:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | so all the features get shut off | Feb 22 20:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | and its STILL slow | Feb 22 20:31 |
| fewt | makes sense | Feb 22 20:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | ps3 and rokus are a dream to develop for according to them | Feb 22 20:32 |
| XFaCE | cubezzz: Pastebin'd http://pastebin.com/1rXbwjn7 | Feb 22 20:32 |
| fewt | I went to replace the PS3 with a really nice bluray player that was on sale, but man what a pile of crap those apps were | Feb 22 20:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | yeah, thats why I have my roku | Feb 22 20:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | bluray player for blurays, roku for _everything else_ | Feb 22 20:32 |
| fewt | I had only bought it for those apps (and the ability to play 3d bluray) | Feb 22 20:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | infact, if roku supported USB bluray drives | Feb 22 20:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | I'd buy one and ditch the bluray player | Feb 22 20:33 |
| XFaCE | lol Blurays | Feb 22 20:34 |
| fewt | I'll probably replace my projector soon. | Feb 22 20:34 |
| fewt | now that they all seem to support 3d at 1080p | Feb 22 20:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | I wish people would quit calling it "3D' | Feb 22 20:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | its not | Feb 22 20:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | its headache inducing 2.5D | Feb 22 20:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Museum of Life and Science opening local food oriented cafe http://ur1.ca/8b8cs | Feb 22 20:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Amazon Pulls 5,000 [Independent Publishers Group] #Kindle Books ⇒revised revenue terms http://www.ur1.ca/8b8bt #indiebooks #IPG !SelfPub | Feb 22 20:38 | |
| fewt | Diablo-D3: fair enough | Feb 22 20:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] That doesn't sound very common, or very Unix ;) | Feb 22 20:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Globe: Ontario scales back G20 ‘secret law’ to limit scope http://www.ur1.ca/8b8fy !CDNpoli #G20report | Feb 22 20:40 | |
| fewt | I'll enjoy 132" of headache inducing 2.5D though :) | Feb 22 20:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @haydar70: #ConnochaetOS 0.9.1, a libre distro with #LinuxLibre, is released. #fs #gnulinuxlibre http://ur1.ca/49xeu | Feb 22 20:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Jesse Brown nails it: "This is the public saying “no,” any and every way it can." !q http://www.ur1.ca/8b8j1 #tellviceverything !CDNpoli | Feb 22 20:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Does !Canada value civil rights? Sure we do! "Come Back With A Warrant" Coco Mat http://www.ur1.ca/8b8n4 via @HayeseLaw !CDNpoli #C30 | Feb 22 20:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] .. about treating friend like shoe scraping. | Feb 22 20:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] #Kuhn : #BusyBox !GPL enforcement concerns resolved http://ur1.ca/8b8zj | Feb 22 21:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Announcement: @bkuhn (and legions of interested others) shall have 7 days to copy currently nondestroyed dents. #denticideispainless | Feb 22 21:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @tekk me too. I only know a few (2 versions in film, opening & closing themes of TV show, & 1982 version by Jimmy #Smith ) | Feb 22 21:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] current democratic systems see voters like consumers; one way relationship - vote, accept new laws & STFU - seen & not heard #noinput | Feb 22 21:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] we don't want, nor need your input when planning new laws, we only need your X on election day, your cooperation with the Police & your tax | Feb 22 21:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Saw #MidnightCowboy again after @bkuhn's ref to "I'm walkin here". !disturbing how #Hoffman gets NY pronunciation of "Florida" dead wrong | Feb 22 21:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] ABS/ELC videos available http://ur1.ca/8b98x | Feb 22 21:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] California's failed attempt at video-game censorship costs the state $2M http://identi.ca/url/67033537 | Feb 22 21:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Origin of Photosynthesis Revealed http://identi.ca/url/67033667 !science | Feb 22 21:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] 300 million year old fossilized forest discovered under coal mine in China http://identi.ca/url/67033722 !science | Feb 22 21:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♻ @caparsons Looks like I'll be on CTV's Power and Politics, from 5pm-6pm (EST) talking about lawful access << excellent! !CDNpoli | Feb 22 21:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Megaupload Founder Kim Dotcom Released From Prison http://identi.ca/url/67033746 | Feb 22 21:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♻ @caparsons lawful access-style bills tend to radically exceed estimated costs provided by government http://www.ur1.ca/8b9ft !CDNpoli #C30 | Feb 22 21:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] The Tesla Bricking Story? It’s Nonsense http://identi.ca/url/67033840 | Feb 22 21:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Error Undoes Faster-Than-Light Neutrino Results http://identi.ca/url/67029581 !science | Feb 22 21:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♻ @TheAgenda And if you have some thoughts on Bill #C30, come and share them in a live chat at theagenda.tvo.org tonight at 8 pm !CDNpoli | Feb 22 21:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Daily Bell - Overspending on National Security Threatens National Security http://goo.gl/Mv4yi by #ronpaul | Feb 22 21:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Nokia saved Windows Mobile!!! No, I'm just messin' with cha! http://goo.gl/KWf5o #elop #mole #microsoft #suicidebomber #nokia | Feb 22 21:33 | |
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| schestowitz | http://dilbert.com/fast/2012-02-22/ | Feb 22 21:38 |
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| schestowitz | I know this shift | Feb 22 21:38 |
| schestowitz | *shirt | Feb 22 21:38 |
| scientes | but its where he is standing | Feb 22 21:39 |
| scientes | ..as well | Feb 22 21:39 |
| schestowitz | he sticks his two middle fingers up | Feb 22 21:39 |
| schestowitz | and says "Fuck google" | Feb 22 21:39 |
| schestowitz | I think he's up to something kinky | Feb 22 21:39 |
| scientes | http://fffff.at/files/2010/01/f-chrome.jpg | Feb 22 21:40 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: now employers want you to sign up for Facebook and every time they start checking people employees get leaked the info to promptly discontinue. Even though it shouldn't matter because their TOS states they retain any info you post indefinitely or as long as they want. | Feb 22 21:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Feb 22 21:40 |
| scientes | holy shit they are erecting giant fucking billboards | Feb 22 21:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @schestowitz: Nokia saved Windows Mobile!!! No, I'm just messin' with cha! http://goo.gl/KWf5o #elop #mole #microsoft #nokia | Feb 22 21:40 | |
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| schestowitz | Ziomatrix: there is an alias now for IT department | Feb 22 21:40 |
| schestowitz | the "department for reasons to sack employee" without being accused of wrongful termination | Feb 22 21:41 |
| schestowitz | that's what someone who worked in a law firm sort of told me | Feb 22 21:41 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: thats crazy, what can you accomplish on Facebook which simply can be done with Forwarding with an email address group? | Feb 22 21:41 |
| scientes | hahahaha | Feb 22 21:41 |
| schestowitz | check browser history, email, anything like that, BAM... excuse for firing | Feb 22 21:41 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: people go out of their way to register different alter-aliases for their profiles. I say either don't bother or just don't post much onto that. MMS is still fairly confidential unless you're using a company or agency's handset. Isn't that what happened to Anthony Wiener? | Feb 22 21:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Activist Post: 34 Questions About #Australia's Censored Corruption Crisis in the Schapelle Corby Case http://goo.gl/Hcpo0 #shadowgov | Feb 22 21:45 | |
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| schestowitz | really? He used an alias? | Feb 22 21:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] quick, duck! ♻ @cwebber: "Only plutonium, a detonator, and an explosive shell are provided. no atomic bomb is created." -- @robmyers | Feb 22 21:47 | |
| schestowitz | I was under the impression he has a FB page or twitter acocunt | Feb 22 21:47 |
| schestowitz | and that he DM/PMed a link to something | Feb 22 21:47 |
| schestowitz | like a photo he took and put up as public | Feb 22 21:47 |
| schestowitz | I never came on to girls online based on something professional like some online activity of mine | Feb 22 21:47 |
| schestowitz | some people in fact do that, and occasionally a scandals comes out of that | Feb 22 21:48 |
| schestowitz | They basically mix pro life with personal life, it rarely ends up well | Feb 22 21:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] European Commission refers #ACTA to top EU court, potentially delaying European Parliament vote: https://eff.org/r.T8e | Feb 22 21:50 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/91009113 http://identi.ca/notice/91009101 | Feb 22 21:50 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @Gordon Sinclair (thistleweb)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-12 21:41:23 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz suicide bomber hashtag? seriously? | Feb 22 21:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Gordon Sinclair (thistleweb)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-12 21:41:05 UTC - Identi.ca: ♺ @schestowitz: Nokia saved Windows Mobile!!! No, I'm just messin' with cha! http://goo.gl/KWf5o #elop #mole #microsoft #nokia | Feb 22 21:50 |
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| schestowitz | Elop was like a suicide bomber in Nokia | Feb 22 21:50 |
| schestowitz | A trojan horse that destroys his surroundings | Feb 22 21:51 |
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| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: its hard to imagine how one can be awarded for this. Apotheker is still held as the most well paid CEO in HP's history, despite being voted off by giving him 7.2 mil on top of the 13 he was paid brought in. | Feb 22 21:57 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: now that doesn't mean I pity Meg for getting less, she has enough to apparently give $100k to Mitt Romney's SuperPAC. Its also interesting that HP is claiming they plan to target Android with WebOS even though the more obvious choice would be WP 7 which still has minuscule marketshare despite M$ trying to get Samsung and others to give phones away with contract. | Feb 22 21:59 |
| schestowitz | it's not a products | Feb 22 22:02 |
| schestowitz | it's a placeholder | Feb 22 22:03 |
| schestowitz | to pretend MS is not a patent troll | Feb 22 22:03 |
| schestowitz | to show market presence | Feb 22 22:03 |
| schestowitz | unless they can make android VERY expensive through trolling, the network effect eliminates WP7 | Feb 22 22:03 |
| schestowitz | It's a money sink | Feb 22 22:03 |
| schestowitz | they can't have it go on forever, not with 3rd party devs and hardware support, associated staff etc. | Feb 22 22:04 |
| schestowitz | Same for Intel with Tizen | Feb 22 22:04 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: its also interesting to note to show Apple and M$'s ongoing relationship. M$ is developing Office for the iPad, no word on Android. | Feb 22 22:04 |
| schestowitz | mind you, my employer has some connections with Tizen now, although I'm not directly part of Tizem | Feb 22 22:04 |
| schestowitz | *en | Feb 22 22:04 |
| schestowitz | MS develops some stuff for Android | Feb 22 22:04 |
| schestowitz | Not such bas stuff, either | Feb 22 22:04 |
| schestowitz | Office is a cash cow | Feb 22 22:05 |
| schestowitz | and they need it on everything to keep de facto format in place | Feb 22 22:05 |
| schestowitz | weakening ODF and such.. | Feb 22 22:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #NASA calls for vendors to "open source" NASA.gov - The H Open Source http://goo.gl/LhAxL #flossfiles | Feb 22 22:05 | |
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| schestowitz | boy, I should really get some coding done today | Feb 22 22:05 |
| schestowitz | wasted all day in town, then chatting privately with OA | Feb 22 22:05 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: do you see the open sourcing of Enyo as real competition for Tizen? | Feb 22 22:06 |
| schestowitz | Enyo? | Feb 22 22:06 |
| schestowitz | is that the browser? | Feb 22 22:06 |
| schestowitz | webos browser I am guessing | Feb 22 22:06 |
| schestowitz | ACCESS seems kaput | Feb 22 22:06 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: the former WebOS API that also used as the basis for their object oriented SDK. | Feb 22 22:06 |
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| schestowitz | there's an embedded Linux specialist (in part) called Enya IIRVC | Feb 22 22:06 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: HP seems intent on making it an agnostic platform model for other software development and for web based applications. | Feb 22 22:07 |
| schestowitz | maybe the Linux Foundation will want to emtace WebOS | Feb 22 22:07 |
| schestowitz | when I spoke to OIN's CEO he seemed concerned | Feb 22 22:07 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: They are releasing it with an Apache model, how open is that? | Feb 22 22:07 |
| schestowitz | that was after some webos-related announcement and a while after meego was dealt a death blow by the MS mole | Feb 22 22:08 |
| scientes | http://primerlabs.com/download | Feb 22 22:08 |
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| scientes | NOOOO LINUX!!! | Feb 22 22:08 |
| schestowitz | Ziomatrix: not to my liking | Feb 22 22:08 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: whats interesting is a former head dev from Meego is now spearheading the effort to port QtWebkit to WebOS and making it the standard underpinning. | Feb 22 22:08 |
| schestowitz | Apache is similar to Google's preferences | Feb 22 22:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Flashrom 0.9.5 improves hardware support - The H Open Source http://goo.gl/XIGIl #floss | Feb 22 22:08 | |
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| schestowitz | I noticed yesterday, Rob Weir from IBM (ODF senior) was promoting some GPL-hostile article from Metz at Wired (about open source "religion") | Feb 22 22:09 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: I guess its not surprising consider even though HP screwed up they're still interested in monetizing any community effort. | Feb 22 22:09 |
| schestowitz | IBM likes apache now | Feb 22 22:09 |
| schestowitz | Apache OO.o | Feb 22 22:09 |
| schestowitz | and Eclipse Licence | Feb 22 22:09 |
| schestowitz | Symbian Foundation was experimenting with it | Feb 22 22:09 |
| schestowitz | my employer has just hired an Apache guy | Feb 22 22:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] @fontana I'm glad you have a right to be forgotten. I hope @bkuhn and others respect that. Folks, if you see thread errors, let me know. | Feb 22 22:10 | |
| scientes | ahh they are pushing unity crap | Feb 22 22:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] FlightGear 2.6.0 brings AI improvements - The H Open Source http://goo.gl/UyCjt cool! #floss #games | Feb 22 22:12 | |
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| scientes | ive seen taht stuff on kongregate | Feb 22 22:12 |
| scientes | isn't unity a adobe thing? | Feb 22 22:12 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: here's the important stuff to see what HP is doing with WebOS and its parts: http://bit.ly/xTQ6WO , http://bit.ly/zjadL2 | Feb 22 22:12 |
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| scientes | "Unity is free game engine that easily scales from instant learning beginners up to professional game development projects." | Feb 22 22:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: HP releases Open webOS' new browser Isis, JavaScript core, and Enyo UI widgets | webOS Nation .::. Size~: 105.39 KB | Feb 22 22:12 |
| scientes | hmm | Feb 22 22:12 |
| MinceR | a game engine from adobe? | Feb 22 22:13 |
| scientes | well what is unity | Feb 22 22:13 |
| scientes | they keep saying "free" which is confusing | Feb 22 22:13 |
| MinceR | that would be great | Feb 22 22:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @eff European Commission refers #ACTA to top EU court, potentially delaying European Parliament vote: https://eff.org/r.T8e | Feb 22 22:13 | |
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| MinceR | "in the newest version, it takes a mere minute to draw a single pixel!" | Feb 22 22:13 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: you can look it up but DaemonFC sees this simply as an endgame to HP relinquishing itself the responsibility of continuing to support it to its shareholders. | Feb 22 22:13 |
| scientes | <MinceR> "in the newest version, it takes a mere minute to draw a single pixel!" | Feb 22 22:13 |
| scientes | haha | Feb 22 22:13 |
| schestowitz | [22:11] <scientes> ahh they are pushing unity crap | Feb 22 22:14 |
| Ziomatrix | MinceR: and how long to render it? | Feb 22 22:14 |
| schestowitz | Unity /*is*/ crap | Feb 22 22:14 |
| scientes | MinceR, oooh i ran into a javascript NES emulator the other day | Feb 22 22:14 |
| scientes | that was cool | Feb 22 22:14 |
| schestowitz | the version I tried was hard to get used to (early version) | Feb 22 22:14 |
| scientes | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_%28game_engine%29 | Feb 22 22:14 |
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| scientes | C# HAHAHAHA | Feb 22 22:14 |
| scientes | shiiiii | Feb 22 22:14 |
| scientes | yeah i saw it on kongregate and was very skeptical | Feb 22 22:15 |
| fewt | What's wrong with C#? | Feb 22 22:15 |
| schestowitz | scientes: the unity3d game engine is not referred to as unity | Feb 22 22:15 |
| scientes | well no linux support | Feb 22 22:15 |
| schestowitz | it's moni | Feb 22 22:15 |
| schestowitz | mono | Feb 22 22:15 |
| MinceR | there are lots wrong with c# | Feb 22 22:15 |
| fewt | those aren't problems | Feb 22 22:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] That was a lot longer than I expected, and I got lost at "business model". | Feb 22 22:15 | |
| MinceR | starting with it being an inferior clone of java | Feb 22 22:15 |
| scientes | why do they always push crappy platforms on early programmers | Feb 22 22:15 |
| fewt | Java the language that uses 500GB of memory to start anything | Feb 22 22:15 |
| fewt | crashes more than flash? | Feb 22 22:15 |
| fewt | pass | Feb 22 22:15 |
| scientes | my first language was *Visual Basic* | Feb 22 22:15 |
| MinceR | scientes: it's their only chance to make programmers use them | Feb 22 22:15 |
| scientes | what a POS | Feb 22 22:16 |
| scientes | ^^^agreed MinceR | Feb 22 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | thorw it over the wall | Feb 22 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | take pot shots at Google | Feb 22 22:16 |
| MinceR | at least java can initialize non-primitive static final members | Feb 22 22:16 |
| schestowitz | fewt: java is not good for games, either | Feb 22 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | suggest that Android might (or might not) go closed at some unspecified point in the future | Feb 22 22:16 |
| scientes | why cant be have more people like Why's---that do really cool stuff | Feb 22 22:16 |
| schestowitz | does minecraft use it? | Feb 22 22:16 |
| scientes | on starting programming | Feb 22 22:16 |
| MinceR | and doesn't have "object" parameters all over the API | Feb 22 22:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] A terrific rant about proposed Canadian #surveillance law #C30 -- it also applies around the world https://eff.org/r.T7f #TellVicEverything | Feb 22 22:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] On fair use and free speech, Big Media has one view for itself, another for the rest of us, says @randypicker: https://eff.org/r.5Tg | Feb 22 22:17 | |
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| scientes | minecraft has a linux server IIRC | Feb 22 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fox_and_the_Grapes | Feb 22 22:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Fox and the Grapes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 52.59 KB | Feb 22 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | everyone should read that | Feb 22 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | it should be mandatory | Feb 22 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | there ought to be a law | Feb 22 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | ;) | Feb 22 22:17 |
| scientes | DaemonFC, yes, aesops is the shit | Feb 22 22:17 |
| fewt | C# is a decent language, I don't see anything wrong with it. | Feb 22 22:17 |
| scientes | but how does that compare here? DaemonFC | Feb 22 22:17 |
| scientes | fewt, what actually is C#? | Feb 22 22:17 |
| schestowitz | scientes: that's the OS | Feb 22 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | HP's FUD against Android | Feb 22 22:17 |
| MinceR | fewt: is that a mantra with you guys? | Feb 22 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | sour grapes | Feb 22 22:18 |
| schestowitz | Linux might go closed source | Feb 22 22:18 |
| scientes | minecraft is java | Feb 22 22:18 |
| scientes | schestowitz, yeah i get your point | Feb 22 22:18 |
| schestowitz | Obama might be assassinated before next elections | Feb 22 22:18 |
| MinceR | then there's the fact that c# "runs" on top of .net/mono | Feb 22 22:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Last chance to tell Google to forget you | ITworld http://goo.gl/fNCw2 #EFF #tips http://goo.gl/Y75Tq | Feb 22 22:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @windigo: It’s hard not to like #! – I’ve been using it all year. :D | Feb 22 22:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Last chance to tell Google to forget you | ITworld .::. Size~: 135.99 KB | Feb 22 22:18 |
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| scientes | <MinceR> then there's the fact that c# "runs" on top of .net/mono | Feb 22 22:18 |
| MinceR | oh, and Windows.Forms being the most outdated toolkit out there, with no real layout management | Feb 22 22:18 |
| schestowitz | Ballmer might have a heart attack | Feb 22 22:18 |
| scientes | yeah C# is actually basically windows executables IIRC | Feb 22 22:18 |
| Ziomatrix | DaemonFC: I wonder what its sour grapes over, they came half way into the race bragging about "Everybody On" and fumbled. Palm was mostly targetting Apple with its iTunes spoofing anyway | Feb 22 22:19 |
| scientes | uses binfmtmisc | Feb 22 22:19 |
| schestowitz | and BillG might commit suicide | Feb 22 22:19 |
| schestowitz | so don't buy MSFT | Feb 22 22:19 |
| fewt | MinceR: Still not a problem. | Feb 22 22:19 |
| schestowitz | It's not safe | Feb 22 22:19 |
| fewt | blech, I wouldn't buy MSFT | Feb 22 22:19 |
| Ziomatrix | DaemonFC: it probably means that sadly HP will treat WebOS as a distant second if at all to its Windows 8 offerings. | Feb 22 22:19 |
| MinceR | scientes: they put a "Portable" Executable header on their bytecode to push winblows in the face in everyone | Feb 22 22:19 |
| schestowitz | they have no Vista8 offerings | Feb 22 22:19 |
| MinceR | fewt: for you, maybe not | Feb 22 22:19 |
| fewt | C# is as write once run anywhere as Java if written well. | Feb 22 22:19 |
| schestowitz | Vista8 does not exist | Feb 22 22:19 |
| MinceR | fewt: that it is not | Feb 22 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody should be trying to be compatible with iTunes past the point of helping people break Apple's DRM and use the files with free software | Feb 22 22:20 |
| fewt | Sure it is | Feb 22 22:20 |
| fewt | I have some | Feb 22 22:20 |
| fewt | Wish I could share the code | Feb 22 22:20 |
| schestowitz | not final | Feb 22 22:20 |
| MinceR | there are even binary compatibility issues between .net and mono, afaik | Feb 22 22:20 |
| scientes | fewt, ..if well written... | Feb 22 22:20 |
| scientes | MinceR, yes there _are_ compat issues between .net and mono | Feb 22 22:20 |
| MinceR | not to mention the legal issues with mono | Feb 22 22:20 |
| schestowitz | depends what you mean by "Well..." :-) | Feb 22 22:20 |
| MinceR | and the whole mono being dead thing | Feb 22 22:20 |
| scientes | tons of compat issues | Feb 22 22:20 |
| MinceR | and silver lie being dead | Feb 22 22:20 |
| Ziomatrix | DaemonFC: that was big waste of PR and dev time. Palm should have been focusing on getting video recording working out of the gate and a microphone API that applications can access. | Feb 22 22:20 |
| fewt | Mono isn't dead | Feb 22 22:21 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: Silver Lie is not dead | Feb 22 22:21 |
| schestowitz | It's asleep! | Feb 22 22:21 |
| MinceR | lol | Feb 22 22:21 |
| MinceR | forever asleep | Feb 22 22:21 |
| scientes | ruby 1.9 is C+Bison | Feb 22 22:21 |
| fewt | so much misdirected hate :P | Feb 22 22:21 |
| schestowitz | on a cloud | Feb 22 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | It's not dead, it's being evil in a different dimension! | Feb 22 22:21 |
| schestowitz | Azure cloud | Feb 22 22:21 |
| MinceR | fewt: so much ignorance | Feb 22 22:21 |
| schestowitz | nxt to Steve Jobs | Feb 22 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Feb 22 22:21 |
| fewt | Yes, that I'd agree with. | Feb 22 22:21 |
| MinceR | good, admitting it to yourself is the first step | Feb 22 22:21 |
| MinceR | then learning can begin | Feb 22 22:21 |
| fewt | anyone that thinks FOSS is "bad" is ignorant | Feb 22 22:21 |
| scientes | GPS is really what keeps FOSS going | Feb 22 22:22 |
| scientes | *GPL | Feb 22 22:22 |
| schestowitz | maybe Netflix will acquire Silver Lie LOL | Feb 22 22:22 |
| MinceR | oh, FOSS is the same as mono/.net now? that's interesting. | Feb 22 22:22 |
| schestowitz | was it netflix that still uses it? | Feb 22 22:22 |
| fewt | Mono is FOSS | Feb 22 22:22 |
| schestowitz | Florian is FOSS PAtents | Feb 22 22:22 |
| scientes | push of LLVM could have nasty effect...anyone agree? | Feb 22 22:22 |
| MinceR | well, maybe in states that have no software patents | Feb 22 22:22 |
| scientes | not that LLVM isn't a bad thing | Feb 22 22:22 |
| MinceR | but FOSS is certainly not mono | Feb 22 22:22 |
| schestowitz | and he also works for Microsoft, attacking Android | Feb 22 22:22 |
| scientes | what is mono written in BTW? | Feb 22 22:22 |
| scientes | cause .net != mono | Feb 22 22:23 |
| scientes | that is the real problem | Feb 22 22:23 |
| fewt | .net != mono | Feb 22 22:23 |
| schestowitz | written in buinary | Feb 22 22:23 |
| scientes | as that is really pushed at people | Feb 22 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | Shillcode | Feb 22 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Feb 22 22:23 |
| Ziomatrix | DaemonFC: but hopefully now WebOS will become an up to date and open OS it needs to in order to continue. There are plenty of cheap tablets and smartphones it can be ported to, especially those ones with WP7 pre-installed, not to mention the Playbook. | Feb 22 22:23 |
| fewt | Mono is foss, released under a free license | Feb 22 22:23 |
| scientes | but its not a good VM | Feb 22 22:23 |
| fewt | and if .net was so bad why would GNU be working on a clone? | Feb 22 22:23 |
| MinceR | .net != mono, yet people keep claiming that it's portable/"write once run anywhere" | Feb 22 22:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] It still boggles my mind that Instagram doesn't have a Web Interface... | Feb 22 22:23 | |
| MinceR | fewt: they _were_ working on one | Feb 22 22:23 |
| fewt | http://www.gnu.org/projects/dotgnu/ | Feb 22 22:23 |
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| scientes | mono is not a great VM | Feb 22 22:23 |
| MinceR | then they realized it's pointless | Feb 22 22:23 |
| MinceR | that's a dead project | Feb 22 22:24 |
| scientes | just use C++ and get rid of all that crappy VM overhead | Feb 22 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | C# is for when you absolutely must have all the problems of C++ and Java in the same language | Feb 22 22:24 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: I'm surprised Netflix still sticks to that platform, NBC dumped it after the Winter Olympics. And how with HTML5 what other excuses are there to pay royalties for streaming? | Feb 22 22:24 |
| scientes | or use a VM language that actually makes programming easier like python, perl, or ruby | Feb 22 22:24 |
| MinceR | or just use java and get rid of all those design and implementation flaws from m$ and their followers | Feb 22 22:24 |
| scientes | but C# is shitty like C++ with the overhead of better languages | Feb 22 22:24 |
| MinceR | i don't see what's shitty in C++ | Feb 22 22:24 |
| scientes | C++ isn't shitty | Feb 22 22:25 |
| fewt | meh, misdirected hate | Feb 22 22:25 |
| MinceR | perhaps you're using it for problems it wasn't meant for? | Feb 22 22:25 |
| scientes | I mean C# is low level | Feb 22 22:25 |
| fewt | I hate Microsoft so everything they do is bad | Feb 22 22:25 |
| fewt | that's all I'm seeing here. :P | Feb 22 22:25 |
| scientes | sorry for bad communication MinceR | Feb 22 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | it's easy for bad programmers to misuse and create horrible software with | Feb 22 22:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] CIA's "Facebook" Program Dramatically Cut Agency's Costs - YouTube http://goo.gl/Joy1A #funny...but true?! | Feb 22 22:25 | |
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| MinceR | fewt: the other way around | Feb 22 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | of course saying you use C++ doesn't tell the listener anything | Feb 22 22:25 |
| scientes | but C# could just be written as C++ and skip all the shit | Feb 22 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | you could be using 99.9% things that exist in C | Feb 22 22:25 |
| MinceR | i hate m$ because all their products and services suck and they're immoral and doing a lot of harm to me and to humanity. | Feb 22 22:25 |
| scientes | or maybe even objective-C i guess | Feb 22 22:25 |
| schestowitz | [22:25] <scientes> C++ isn't shitty | Feb 22 22:26 |
| MinceR | also, they keep foisting their crap on me against my will. | Feb 22 22:26 |
| schestowitz | It's not easy to work with | Feb 22 22:26 |
| schestowitz | if you don't know your classes | Feb 22 22:26 |
| prurigro | C++ is also slower | Feb 22 22:26 |
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| DaemonFC | not necessarily | Feb 22 22:26 |
| MinceR | slower than what? | Feb 22 22:26 |
| prurigro | C | Feb 22 22:26 |
| MinceR | not necessarily | Feb 22 22:26 |
| schestowitz | there's no rules for that | Feb 22 22:26 |
| scientes | prurigro, yeah doesn't C++ introduce some linking complexities? | Feb 22 22:26 |
| prurigro | according to some profs I've had in the past | Feb 22 22:26 |
| MinceR | whatever C can do, C++ can do in the same way | Feb 22 22:26 |
| schestowitz | also, it depends on your compiler | Feb 22 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | that's because C++ is a superset of C | Feb 22 22:27 |
| prurigro | scientes, yea, that sounds along the lines of what I was taught | Feb 22 22:27 |
| MinceR | when you'd do OOP or polymorphism in C, C++ does it in the sanest and fastest way | Feb 22 22:27 |
| schestowitz | the C++ compiler might be able to optimise away more stuff (and better) than a comparable C compiler | Feb 22 22:27 |
| MinceR | i've seen people trying to do OOP in C because "ew, C++" -- it always sucked | Feb 22 22:27 |
| scientes | but yeah C++ is a strict superset | Feb 22 22:27 |
| MinceR | all they accomplished was a lot more bugs and unreadable code | Feb 22 22:27 |
| prurigro | C++ could be as fast as C, theoretically I guess, and its getting better all the time | Feb 22 22:27 |
| prurigro | gcc and g++ merging soon should help, I'd think | Feb 22 22:27 |
| scientes | so you can always just use C, and then use the C++ stuff when you want it | Feb 22 22:28 |
| prurigro | but its still slower afaik | Feb 22 22:28 |
| schestowitz | scientes: maybe LTorvalds | Feb 22 22:28 |
| schestowitz | Maybe he's just afraid of C++ | Feb 22 22:28 |
| MinceR | prurigro: aren't they the same thing? | Feb 22 22:28 |
| scientes | well, it probably isn't a good idea for a kernel schestowitz ? | Feb 22 22:28 |
| schestowitz | he justifies his stickler-instincts by bashing c++ | Feb 22 22:28 |
| prurigro | MinceR, C and C++? | Feb 22 22:28 |
| MinceR | no | Feb 22 22:28 |
| MinceR | gcc and g++ | Feb 22 22:28 |
| prurigro | or gcc and g++ | Feb 22 22:28 |
| prurigro | gotchya | Feb 22 22:28 |
| schestowitz | scientes: why not? | Feb 22 22:28 |
| MinceR | i could certainly compile c++ code using gcc | Feb 22 22:28 |
| schestowitz | Linux already has several programming languages in it | Feb 22 22:28 |
| MinceR | just had to add some extra parameters | Feb 22 22:28 |
| scientes | schestowitz, like what lanauges, that sounds interesting? | Feb 22 22:29 |
| prurigro | MinceR, I actually heard about the merge the other day, and thought to myself the same thing-- but gcc refuses to compile anything with <iostream> and likewise for g++ and stdio.h | Feb 22 22:29 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: many people don't understand C++ and so bash it | Feb 22 22:29 |
| scientes | because its a pretty small code base, all in all | Feb 22 22:29 |
| scientes | i mean 60 MB compressed for that complexity is pretty awesome | Feb 22 22:29 |
| schestowitz | !google c plus plus in linux | Feb 22 22:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Learning C/C++ Step-By-Step | HowtoForge - Linux Howtos and Tutorials | http://www.howtoforge.com/learning-c-cplusplus-step-by-step | Feb 22 22:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - UNIX/Linux Programming - C++ Forum - cplusplus.com | http://www.cplusplus.com/forum/unices/ | Feb 22 22:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Good Linux IDE? - C++ Forum - cplusplus.com | http://www.cplusplus.com/forum/unices/4781/ | Feb 22 22:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - cplusplus.com - The C++ Resources Network | http://www.cplusplus.com/ | Feb 22 22:29 |
| scientes | and 2.3 MB compress kernels, etc | Feb 22 22:29 |
| MinceR | prurigro: remember that the gcc executable is just a frontend to various programs | Feb 22 22:29 |
| scientes | no schestowitz , im talking about the kernel itsself | Feb 22 22:29 |
| scientes | sry miscommunication | Feb 22 22:29 |
| scientes | C++ certainly runs in user mode, its used alot | Feb 22 22:30 |
| scientes | I don't understand what torvalds has to do with it? | Feb 22 22:30 |
| prurigro | MinceR, I do believe there's a split between the c compilation code and the c++ compilation code currently | Feb 22 22:31 |
| MinceR | ic | Feb 22 22:31 |
| scientes | his influence on user-space is largely limited to his comments on libc--like the mem_copy is mem_move stuff | Feb 22 22:31 |
| schestowitz | scientes: the core is C | Feb 22 22:31 |
| schestowitz | [22:30] <scientes> I don't understand what torvalds has to do with it? | Feb 22 22:31 |
| prurigro | MinceR, but this is apparently going to be merged soon, for hopefully some performance boosts | Feb 22 22:31 |
| scientes | schestowitz, can C++ applications easily link to C libraries? | Feb 22 22:31 |
| schestowitz | he bashes c++ | Feb 22 22:31 |
| MinceR | scientes: yes | Feb 22 22:31 |
| MinceR | scientes: just write the headers properly :> | Feb 22 22:31 |
| schestowitz | !google torvalds on c plus plus | Feb 22 22:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Linus Torvalds: Why C++ Sucks | CIO Blogs | http://blogs.cio.com/esther_schindler/linus_torvalds_why_c_sucks | Feb 22 22:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - C++ - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%252B%252B | Feb 22 22:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Linus Torvalds - Google+ | https://plus.google.com/102150693225130002912 | Feb 22 22:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - C++ is a horrible language ~ Linus Torva - C++ Forum - cplusplus.com | http://www.cplusplus.com/forum/lounge/54167/ | Feb 22 22:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Wormtongue in #LOTR is a personification of #lobbying - whispering bullshit in the bosses ear with a hidden agenda | Feb 22 22:32 | |
| scientes | MinceR, oh yes, i've seen alot of patches "add support for linking with C++", etc | Feb 22 22:32 |
| MinceR | i mean, disable name mangling if you're writing C++ code you'll call from C code | Feb 22 22:32 |
| MinceR | and such | Feb 22 22:32 |
| MinceR | extern "C", iirc | Feb 22 22:32 |
| scientes | but that was in C code | Feb 22 22:33 |
| scientes | like "C++ guard" or something like that | Feb 22 22:33 |
| scientes | well, my takaway from this article: http://blogs.cio.com/esther_schindler/linus_torvalds_why_c_sucks | Feb 22 22:34 |
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| scientes | having a large library in the same language IS valuable | Feb 22 22:35 |
| scientes | but C++ doesn't really cause that problem | Feb 22 22:35 |
| MinceR | my takeaway was that he refused to learn and understand C++ properly and blamed it on the language | Feb 22 22:35 |
| schestowitz | that's how the human mind works | Feb 22 22:36 |
| schestowitz | self-validation | Feb 22 22:36 |
| scientes | this video taught me a hell of a lot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8F8BqSa-XY | Feb 22 22:36 |
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| scientes | and after i learned that ruby 1.9 uses bison for its parser | Feb 22 22:36 |
| schestowitz | Ad nauseam | Feb 22 22:36 |
| DrPizza | MinceR: yup | Feb 22 22:36 |
| scientes | I was wondering what other VM languages, like python and perl use | Feb 22 22:36 |
| DrPizza | MinceR: I love how linux reinvents c++ v-tables | Feb 22 22:37 |
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| scientes | o wait thats not the video | Feb 22 22:37 |
| DrPizza | but c++sucks! | Feb 22 22:37 |
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| schestowitz | for its time it was good | Feb 22 22:37 |
| scientes | here is the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8F8BqSa-XY | Feb 22 22:37 |
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| MinceR | DrPizza: pretty much everyone who tries to do polymorphism in C does that :> | Feb 22 22:37 |
| DrPizza | MinceR: yeah, I know | Feb 22 22:37 |
| MinceR | though it's sort of understandable in C, since the kernel probably can't use libc++ | Feb 22 22:37 |
| schestowitz | Java makes it legacy for many purposes, except people gained experience in C++ and would rather carry on with it | Feb 22 22:37 |
| schestowitz | for practical reasons too, not just habits | Feb 22 22:38 |
| scientes | MinceR, why can't they? doesn't it need memory management that doesn't exist in kernel mode? | Feb 22 22:38 |
| MinceR | i don't think java can make c++ legacy, they're suited to different tasks | Feb 22 22:38 |
| scientes | I guess they have to rewrite their own libraries | Feb 22 22:38 |
| MinceR | scientes: it needs all sorts of functions that aren't implemented there | Feb 22 22:38 |
| scientes | like printk | Feb 22 22:38 |
| schestowitz | k?? | Feb 22 22:38 |
| MinceR | scientes: some services that don't exist during some of the lifetime of the kernel | Feb 22 22:38 |
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| scientes | schestowitz, in the kernel you use printk, which is missing one feature of printf, i forget which | Feb 22 22:39 |
| MinceR | and yes, it needs to be designed to run in kernel mode | Feb 22 22:39 |
| MinceR | and yes, memory management is a lot different | Feb 22 22:39 |
| MinceR | you can't just ask the kernel to give you a page when you're the kernel :) | Feb 22 22:39 |
| DrPizza | you can most of the time | Feb 22 22:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I agree that it's vital; I think it's important regardless of business model, though. | Feb 22 22:40 | |
| scientes | schestowitz, I know cause i successfully patched the kernel to fix my hardware :) | Feb 22 22:42 |
| DrPizza | I would hope that printk is missing %n, at the very least | Feb 22 22:43 |
| scientes | See the vsnprintf documentation for format string extensions over C99. | Feb 22 22:49 |
| scientes | so its still basic off a C standard function | Feb 22 22:49 |
| scientes | o wait, that is "over C99" | Feb 22 22:50 |
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| MinceR | beyond what's defined in the C99 standard? :> | Feb 22 22:50 |
| scientes | which means its in glibc | Feb 22 22:50 |
| lolwutter | what is glibc | Feb 22 22:51 |
| scientes | GNU libc, the standard C library that GNU/Linux and most Linux systems use | Feb 22 22:51 |
| scientes | (but not android) | Feb 22 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | XFaCE: you can disable vsync globally by putting export vblank_mode=0 into .bashrc | Feb 22 22:51 |
| scientes | maintained by Ulrich Drepper | Feb 22 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | next time you log in it will take effect | Feb 22 22:51 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Err, I don't want to disable vsync | Feb 22 22:52 |
| XFaCE | lol | Feb 22 22:52 |
| lolwutter | GNU? | Feb 22 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | GNU libc | Feb 22 22:52 |
| lolwutter | i dont understand this irc | Feb 22 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | glibc | Feb 22 22:52 |
| lolwutter | its about tech rights | Feb 22 22:52 |
| lolwutter | but i cant even understand that software isnt free | Feb 22 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | I believe we're being punked | Feb 22 22:53 |
| lolwutter | lol | Feb 22 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | fewt must have invited some of his cheesecake people over | Feb 22 22:53 |
| lolwutter | no im not punking, i dont know fewt' | Feb 22 22:53 |
| lolwutter | i just came in here cuz i found it interesting | Feb 22 22:54 |
| MinceR | that's what someone fewt invited would say | Feb 22 22:54 |
| MinceR | :> | Feb 22 22:54 |
| lolwutter | you cant even enforce software freedom though | Feb 22 22:55 |
| MinceR | in some contexts, it is possible | Feb 22 22:55 |
| lolwutter | i mean... | Feb 22 22:55 |
| lolwutter | holding software ffs | Feb 22 22:55 |
| lolwutter | opposite of freedom | Feb 22 22:55 |
| MinceR | your freedom to swing your fist ends where my nose begins. :) | Feb 22 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | you have the same enforcement methods to force software vendors to give your users freedom as the software vendors can use to enforce licenses that take it away | Feb 22 22:56 |
| scientes | ffs? | Feb 22 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | the DMCA | Feb 22 22:56 |
| lolwutter | ok | Feb 22 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | the court system | Feb 22 22:56 |
| lolwutter | question: am i free to kill someone? | Feb 22 22:56 |
| lolwutter | ^ trick question | Feb 22 22:56 |
| scientes | lolwutter, what is ffs? | Feb 22 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | sure, you might go to jail for it though | Feb 22 22:56 |
| lolwutter | then it isnt free. | Feb 22 22:56 |
| lolwutter | otherwise it would be free of any effects | Feb 22 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | you asked if you were free to do it | Feb 22 22:56 |
| lolwutter | that's not freedom | Feb 22 22:56 |
| lolwutter | but then if i wasnt allowed | Feb 22 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | not if you would be punished later | Feb 22 22:56 |
| lolwutter | that's not freedom not to do it? | Feb 22 22:56 |
| scientes | In Soviet Russia we have freedom of speech, in American you have freedom AFTER speech. :) | Feb 22 22:57 |
| lolwutter | but technically it isnt free | Feb 22 22:57 |
| scientes | (although the NDAA makes that not really true) | Feb 22 22:57 |
| DaemonFC | I love America, you have such nice things. Like warning shots! | Feb 22 22:57 |
| lolwutter | u call someone a bitch, fag.. w.e. | Feb 22 22:57 |
| lolwutter | they punch u | Feb 22 22:57 |
| lolwutter | that's not free in its self | Feb 22 22:57 |
| lolwutter | its still bound by some force | Feb 22 22:57 |
| scientes | lolwutter, you are free to do anything with the source code | Feb 22 22:57 |
| scientes | use it for any purpose | Feb 22 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | lolwutter: We're all born free and litigated to death | Feb 22 22:58 |
| scientes | change it to suit your needs and fix your problems | Feb 22 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | there, now you know | Feb 22 22:58 |
| scientes | share it to help your neighbor | Feb 22 22:58 |
| lolwutter | only thing i could use software | Feb 22 22:59 |
| lolwutter | for.. | Feb 22 22:59 |
| lolwutter | is to kill people at this point | Feb 22 22:59 |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GK8ewRec7c | Feb 22 23:00 |
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| scientes | so did anyone watch that 28c3 video on The Science of Insecurity? | Feb 22 23:00 |
| scientes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8F8BqSa-XY | Feb 22 23:01 |
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| scientes | it was great | Feb 22 23:01 |
| scientes | if your protocols are not designed right it will take an infinite time to secure them | Feb 22 23:01 |
| lolwutter | lol wtf? | Feb 22 23:02 |
| lolwutter | that really shows | Feb 22 23:02 |
| lolwutter | you how sad america is, daemon | Feb 22 23:02 |
| lolwutter | that someone has to make jokes like that | Feb 22 23:03 |
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| lolwutter | propoghanda comedy.... | Feb 22 23:03 |
| scientes | http://www1.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/tresorfiles/tresor.pdf | Feb 22 23:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting application/pdf type | Feb 22 23:04 |
| scientes | ooooo, TESOR can run with only storing the key in two debug registers | Feb 22 23:04 |
| scientes | so you don't loose any functionality, you still have 2 debug registers left | Feb 22 23:04 |
| MinceR | Yakov Smirnoff is awesome | Feb 22 23:04 |
| scientes | and AES runs at full speed, and the main functionality: immune to cold boot | Feb 22 23:04 |
| lolwutter | daenib' | Feb 22 23:06 |
| lolwutter | https.. ? | Feb 22 23:06 |
| lolwutter | y? | Feb 22 23:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Individuals in #Argentina face enhanced surveillance measures and biometric data collection - https://eff.org/r.2Th | Feb 22 23:07 | |
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| lolwutter | wtf y is that | Feb 22 23:08 |
| lolwutter | wat fags | Feb 22 23:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Thank you, @evan. | Feb 22 23:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #TPP "involves unprecedented levels of work being done behind closed doors" - http://bit.ly/zOpq7f #ACTA++ (v @digiphile) | Feb 22 23:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] LibrePlanet 2012 registration is now open! -- http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/libreplanet2012-registration-is-now-open !lp !gnu !fsf | Feb 22 23:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Oracle offering DTrace for Linux http://ur1.ca/8bblx | Feb 22 23:09 | |
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| lolwutter | that's crazy | Feb 22 23:11 |
| MinceR | "that's crazy! the government doesn't lie to people!" | Feb 22 23:11 |
| lolwutter | lol | Feb 22 23:11 |
| lolwutter | no i know they do | Feb 22 23:11 |
| lolwutter | governments are just advertisements for businesses | Feb 22 23:12 |
| lolwutter | but it's funny they can even do that | Feb 22 23:12 |
| lolwutter | then again... | Feb 22 23:12 |
| lolwutter | but that is just such bull shit | Feb 22 23:13 |
| lolwutter | but when u think about | Feb 22 23:13 |
| lolwutter | america | Feb 22 23:13 |
| scientes | MinceR, does ARM have free registers like x86 to implament TRESOR there? | Feb 22 23:13 |
| lolwutter | u really dont have freedom to protest anyways | Feb 22 23:13 |
| MinceR | scientes: no idea | Feb 22 23:13 |
| scientes | it would of course take 4 registers, unlike 2 for 128 bit keys | Feb 22 23:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Thank you @sandersch. I think I will still be in the identiverse in any event. | Feb 22 23:14 | |
| scientes | for kernels that have AES hardware acceleration | Feb 22 23:14 |
| lolwutter | what is ARM? | Feb 22 23:14 |
| lolwutter | some encryption? | Feb 22 23:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | are you fucking kidding me? | Feb 22 23:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | its the most popular 32 bit arch in existence | Feb 22 23:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | you own at least half a dozen devices with ARMs in them | Feb 22 23:15 |
| scientes | & MIPS :) | Feb 22 23:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | cell phones, video game machines, cars, hard drives, GPS devices | Feb 22 23:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | scientes: surprisingly, mips isnt that popular | Feb 22 23:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | but powerpc is due to the automotive and mil-spec hardware industry | Feb 22 23:16 |
| scientes | Diablo-D3, every modem i've logged into uses mips | Feb 22 23:16 |
| cubezzz | don't forget 6502 and 68000 :) | Feb 22 23:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | scientes: thats not a big part of the industry | Feb 22 23:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: neither of those are 32 bit | Feb 22 23:16 |
| lolwutter | well.... what is ARM or MIPs! | Feb 22 23:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | lolwutter: cpu archs | Feb 22 23:16 |
| scientes | Diablo-D3, cubezzz are there registers to stores an AES key in ARM? | Feb 22 23:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | scientes: but yes, broadcoms router-in-a-box mips SoC is rather popular there | Feb 22 23:17 |
| lolwutter | software or hardware? | Feb 22 23:17 |
| lolwutter | or is there a difference? | Feb 22 23:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | lolwutter: hardware, its your fucking cpu | Feb 22 23:17 |
| lolwutter | no , sorry | Feb 22 23:17 |
| scientes | broadcoms? I've seen alot or TI's AR7 | Feb 22 23:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | scientes: yeah, those are floating around too | Feb 22 23:17 |
| scientes | also RMS uses the loongsoon MIPS netbook | Feb 22 23:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | btw, some ARM SoCs do have AES capable encryption engines | Feb 22 23:18 |
| scientes | which is 100% chinese | Feb 22 23:18 |
| scientes | Diablo-D3, yes, I have a ARM SoC with mv_cesa | Feb 22 23:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | which the kernel can use if you use kernel modules for encryption | Feb 22 23:18 |
| scientes | but does it keep the key in RAM, so vulnerable to cold boot? | Feb 22 23:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | scientes: no | Feb 22 23:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | it depends on the ARM | Feb 22 23:19 |
| scientes | and with the user-space crypto API you can use it for openssl | Feb 22 23:19 |
| lolwutter | what is cold booting? | Feb 22 23:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | some have actual encryption dsps in the soc | Feb 22 23:19 |
| scientes | Diablo-D3, I have the kirkwood (sheevaplug) | Feb 22 23:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | scientes: you'll have to look it up yourself | Feb 22 23:19 |
| scientes | where? | Feb 22 23:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | most arms do not have secure bootchain type shit | Feb 22 23:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | if it has it, you bought it specifically for that | Feb 22 23:19 |
| scientes | ahhh | Feb 22 23:19 |
| scientes | it would have to be implamented in u-boot? | Feb 22 23:20 |
| lolwutter | i am really sick of tv | Feb 22 23:20 |
| lolwutter | i wish they would actually put some education on the channels | Feb 22 23:20 |
| scientes | why can't you just but the kernel on its own unencrypted partition, and but implament it in the kernel? | Feb 22 23:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | scientes: well if you have a secure bootchain system, you wouldnt be using uboot | Feb 22 23:20 |
| scientes | Im not looking for secure bootchain, im looking for coldboot immune--well i guess secure bootchain is nice.... | Feb 22 23:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | you'd end up using the same hardware | Feb 22 23:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | at least similar hardware | Feb 22 23:21 |
| scientes | TRESOR doesn't do secure bootchain however | Feb 22 23:21 |
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| Diablo-D3 | on ARMs with AES acceleration, the ARM doesnt do AES | Feb 22 23:21 |
| scientes | the point is to be immune from DMA and cold-boot attacks | Feb 22 23:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | it just does certain AES ops very fast | Feb 22 23:21 |
| scientes | by not storing the key in ram | Feb 22 23:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | scientes: yeah, which cant be done unless you have a stand alone engine | Feb 22 23:22 |
| scientes | Diablo-D3, its a kernel driver | Feb 22 23:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | it doesnt matter if its a kernel driver | Feb 22 23:22 |
| scientes | not a instruction set extention | Feb 22 23:22 |
| scientes | unlike AES-IS | Feb 22 23:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | the kernel has drivers FOR instruction set extensions | Feb 22 23:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | so the kernel crypto API can use the shit | Feb 22 23:22 |
| scientes | thats why you need user-mode kernel crypto API | Feb 22 23:22 |
| lolwutter | DMA attack? | Feb 22 23:22 |
| scientes | for openssl | Feb 22 23:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | scientes: but yeah, if its a device, you basically need a device that has its own ram and can be set write only | Feb 22 23:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | such devices exist | Feb 22 23:23 |
| scientes | its on the SoC | Feb 22 23:23 |
| scientes | in the hardware i own | Feb 22 23:23 |
| lolwutter | dma is a decryption attack or something? | Feb 22 23:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | it can be on the soc, that doesnt change the hardware | Feb 22 23:23 |
| scientes | i'm just wondering if it stores the key in ram | Feb 22 23:23 |
| scientes | or in its own ram | Feb 22 23:23 |
| scientes | cause that is the cold-boot thing | Feb 22 23:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | lolwutter: dma = direct memory access, look it up on wikipedia | Feb 22 23:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | lolwutter: it has nothing to do with encryption | Feb 22 23:23 |
| scientes | if it is hardware-impossible to recover | Feb 22 23:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | scientes: see your problem is this | Feb 22 23:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | the device doesnt already know the key | Feb 22 23:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | which means I can attack it | Feb 22 23:24 |
| scientes | cause TRESOR does it with the debug registers, which is cool | Feb 22 23:24 |
| scientes | Diablo-D3, well, TRESOR uses the console driver | Feb 22 23:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | you'd need a hypervisor that knows the key when the OS doesnt | Feb 22 23:24 |
| scientes | so you could use the serial driver | Feb 22 23:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | scientes: but the key still has to be known to send it | Feb 22 23:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | no matter how you actually send it | Feb 22 23:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | if you're loading the key off of the disk in linux, you've failed | Feb 22 23:25 |
| scientes | oh, to get it into the crypto API? | Feb 22 23:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | I can recover the key | Feb 22 23:25 |
| scientes | it would have to be loaded in ram | Feb 22 23:25 |
| scientes | but no, here it would be a type-in password, which would be hashed into a AES key | Feb 22 23:25 |
| scientes | like TRESOR does | Feb 22 23:25 |
| scientes | then TRESOR hashes the key, and presents it as a key hash to check if you entered it correctly and avoid corruption | Feb 22 23:25 |
| scientes | you can type that down without problem, (although it doesn't really add any security against a root kit) | Feb 22 23:26 |
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| scientes | and the key is generated on the CPU and stored in the debug registers | Feb 22 23:27 |
| scientes | why can't i do this with my ARM that has a SoC AES accelerator? | Feb 22 23:27 |
| scientes | it seems to me that you only need to add support to the kernel driver, to 1. ask for a password, 2. make sure that the key never gets put in ram, during processing we would use cache_as_ram | Feb 22 23:28 |
| scientes | the big question is 1. where is the AES key currently stored during use ? 2. where might it be stored instead if it is stored in RAM | Feb 22 23:29 |
| scientes | got it Diablo-D3 / | Feb 22 23:29 |
| scientes | its seperate from secure boot | Feb 22 23:29 |
| lolwutter | can someone frame what problem is, i wants to keep up | Feb 22 23:30 |
| MinceR | gn | Feb 22 23:30 |
| scientes | gn MinceR | Feb 22 23:31 |
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| lolwutter | what would be usefull to learn | Feb 22 23:38 |
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