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qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: "smoke"? you mean the air | Mar 06 00:01 |
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qu1j0t3 | yes, it's an issue | Mar 06 00:01 |
schestowitz | Yeah | Mar 06 00:01 |
schestowitz | but in some area it's worse than others | Mar 06 00:01 |
schestowitz | *Areas | Mar 06 00:01 |
qu1j0t3 | sure, but it's a catastrophe | Mar 06 00:01 |
qu1j0t3 | and it's not limited to china | Mar 06 00:01 |
schestowitz | air is global | Mar 06 00:01 |
schestowitz | hehe | Mar 06 00:01 |
schestowitz | "global pollution" | Mar 06 00:01 |
schestowitz | Imagine that for a term | Mar 06 00:01 |
schestowitz | "global pollution" is a scam! | Mar 06 00:02 |
qu1j0t3 | it's a great term | Mar 06 00:02 |
schestowitz | We humans don't contribute to it, it's the volcanoes and Sun | Mar 06 00:02 |
qu1j0t3 | lol | Mar 06 00:02 |
qu1j0t3 | "carbon dioxide is NATURAL" | Mar 06 00:02 |
qu1j0t3 | "humans are God's creation, whatever we do is okay" | Mar 06 00:02 |
schestowitz | "the fish pissing in the sea causes more water poisoning (over almost a billion years) than we as humans ever cause | Mar 06 00:03 |
qu1j0t3 | "if Science contradicts God's word, Science must be wrong, by definition" | Mar 06 00:03 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: oh, wow. | Mar 06 00:03 |
schestowitz | qu1j0t3: co2 is PLANT FOOD | Mar 06 00:03 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: please don't say any more | Mar 06 00:03 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: hahahaha. sorta. | Mar 06 00:03 |
schestowitz | "if we came from monkeys [which we didn't] how come there are still monkeys around?" | Mar 06 00:03 |
qu1j0t3 | shame we're removing all the forests too then. | Mar 06 00:03 |
schestowitz | forests come from God | Mar 06 00:04 |
schestowitz | we can revert back to whatever day God made plants on | Mar 06 00:04 |
schestowitz | and made them so well that their DNA related to us, like a subset | Mar 06 00:04 |
qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: http://www.care2.com/go/z/e/AGEg3/zmhW/Be2AT | Mar 06 00:16 |
TechrightsSocial | Title: Harper, Cooperate Fully with Election Scandal Investigation - The Petition Site .::. Size~: 97.01 KB | Mar 06 00:16 |
schestowitz | GW Harper? | Mar 06 00:17 |
schestowitz | I can't sign it anyway, EU citizen | Mar 06 00:18 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/#!/JonnieMarbles/status/93347191191646210 | Mar 06 00:28 |
TechrightsSocial | @JonnieMarbLes: It is a far better thing that I do now than I have ever done before #splat | Mar 06 00:28 |
schestowitz | LOL | Mar 06 00:28 |
schestowitz | after beating mudcoch with a pie in the face | Mar 06 00:28 |
schestowitz | see his profile background image | Mar 06 00:28 |
schestowitz | good stuff | Mar 06 00:29 |
schestowitz | http://www.npg.si.edu/exh/journal/murdock.htm | Mar 06 00:33 |
TechrightsSocial | Title: Rupert Murdoch and Wendi Deng .::. Size~: 2.07 KB | Mar 06 00:33 |
schestowitz | "Taken from a newsphoto documenting Rupert Murdoch's and Wendi Deng's June 1999 wedding, the drawing, which ran on November 1, 2000, did not illustrate a story about the marriage itself, but rather about the effect of the wedding upon Murdoch's business empire. A native of China, Deng has become a central player in helping Murdoch's News Corp. expand into the Chinese market. The double portrait illustrates a relationship that | Mar 06 00:33 |
schestowitz | has important ramifications for the News Corp., and thus for the international business community. " | Mar 06 00:33 |
schestowitz | $$$ | Mar 06 00:33 |
schestowitz | Bastard | Mar 06 00:33 |
qu1j0t3 | wait, you would deny him conjugal happiness? | Mar 06 00:39 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: what kind of man are you... | Mar 06 00:39 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: Murdoch only wanted the best for us... | Mar 06 00:40 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: he tried to build a great humanitarian organisation... | Mar 06 00:40 |
schestowitz | Hehe, she could be his grandkid | Mar 06 00:40 |
schestowitz | and it's an insult to the institute of matrimony | Mar 06 00:40 |
schestowitz | hehe | Mar 06 00:40 |
schestowitz | murdoch, he helps us | Mar 06 00:40 |
schestowitz | by making money | Mar 06 00:40 |
schestowitz | by selling more papers | Mar 06 00:40 |
schestowitz | for the greater good of all | Mar 06 00:41 |
schestowitz | if he makes money, out of nothing, then he can share it | Mar 06 00:41 |
schestowitz | what a great success, maybe one day he'll be a superhero as big as gates (pardon my cynicism) | Mar 06 00:41 |
qu1j0t3 | LOL | Mar 06 00:41 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: it's impossible, because you are small minded, and a falure. | Mar 06 00:41 |
qu1j0t3 | failure* | Mar 06 00:41 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: only a huge talent and a big hearted, generous man can succeed as grandly as Gates | Mar 06 00:42 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: we lesser mortals can only scratch around in his shadow | Mar 06 00:42 |
XFaCE | qu1j0t3: signed | Mar 06 00:44 |
schestowitz | and ask for grants | Mar 06 00:45 |
schestowitz | only if we help serve his glorious | Mar 06 00:45 |
schestowitz | qu1j0t3: he aw the Chines emarket growing | Mar 06 00:45 |
schestowitz | he married a business (woman) | Mar 06 00:45 |
schestowitz | I remember when my last girlfriend went back to china after she studied form an MBA... | Mar 06 00:46 |
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XFaCE | schestowitz: How many girlfriends have you had? :P | Mar 06 02:18 |
qu1j0t3 | 93 | Mar 06 02:18 |
qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: only four were Windows users | Mar 06 02:19 |
XFaCE | Is that an inside joke | Mar 06 02:19 |
XFaCE | lol | Mar 06 02:20 |
XFaCE | Hey Don, why don't you have a mask? | Mar 06 02:20 |
XFaCE | a freenode mask that is? | Mar 06 02:21 |
XFaCE | n/m | Mar 06 04:09 |
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scientes | <qu1j0t3> XFaCE: only four were Windows users | Mar 06 07:48 |
scientes | haha | Mar 06 07:48 |
scientes | but mac users are woorse IMHO | Mar 06 07:48 |
schestowitz | followers | Mar 06 07:50 |
schestowitz | not users | Mar 06 07:50 |
schestowitz | "Mac user" is like "Buddhism user" | Mar 06 07:51 |
scientes | hahaha schestowitz agreed | Mar 06 07:58 |
scientes | 1 sec i got a good one | Mar 06 07:59 |
scientes | http://www.lockergnome.com/osx/2012/02/28/paypal-apple-fraud-policies/ | Mar 06 07:59 |
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scientes | everything apple is behind a log-in | Mar 06 07:59 |
scientes | its insanity | Mar 06 07:59 |
scientes | i had no idea until i read that | Mar 06 07:59 |
scientes | and after reading it I can't believe anybody would use software like that | Mar 06 08:00 |
scientes | I mean windows "genuine advantage" doesn't do that | Mar 06 08:00 |
scientes | and if you totally remove WGA and use autopatcher you can actually have quite a bit of control over the windows software on your computer | Mar 06 08:01 |
scientes | (not saying it still doesn't suck) | Mar 06 08:01 |
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schestowitz | some people think I should teach octave | Mar 06 08:39 |
schestowitz | Teaching this is something I did on YouTube for a little while. Face-to-face is a whole different thing. I might think about this in the future | Mar 06 08:39 |
schestowitz | qu1j0t3: http://identi.ca/notice/91588936 http://identi.ca/notice/91588916 | Mar 06 09:54 |
TechrightsSocial | @Sander (sandersch)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Mar-12 08:58:30 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Who expected anything else? | Mar 06 09:54 |
TechrightsSocial | @Sander (sandersch)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Mar-12 08:58:00 UTC - Identi.ca: Privacy betrayed: Twitter sells multi-billion tweet archive http://ur1.ca/8g8n8 #twitter #privacy | Mar 06 09:54 |
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schestowitz | Typical troll: "but Twitter is just a business !! Got a problem with that ?? What are you, a COMMIE?" http://identi.ca/notice/91590480 | Mar 06 09:55 |
TechrightsSocial | @Sander (sandersch)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Mar-12 09:42:45 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz good morning mate! | Mar 06 09:55 |
schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/91590483 | Mar 06 09:57 |
TechrightsSocial | @frogfall's status on Tuesday, 06-Mar-12 09:42:54 UTC - Identi.ca: Tweets aren't exactly private, though, are they? ;-) | Mar 06 09:57 |
schestowitz | they are selling user data in bulk, not tweets. It's about profiling and then spamming folks. Recall the DOJ/WIkileaks incident too | Mar 06 09:57 |
schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/91590483 | Mar 06 09:58 |
TechrightsSocial | @frogfall's status on Tuesday, 06-Mar-12 09:42:54 UTC - Identi.ca: Tweets aren't exactly private, though, are they? ;-) | Mar 06 09:58 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/omfgthelife/status/176954415410978816 | Mar 06 09:59 |
TechrightsSocial | @omfgthelife: Privacy Blah: Twitter sells multi-billion tweet archive http://t.co/z5PjMyIS #twitter #privacy (/via @schestowitz) | Mar 06 09:59 |
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schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/176518742413553666 | Mar 06 09:59 |
TechrightsSocial | @fcassia: @schestowitz What ever happened to the IcedRobot project? | Mar 06 09:59 |
schestowitz | not aware of it I'm afraid | Mar 06 09:59 |
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schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/91591507 | Mar 06 10:50 |
TechrightsSocial | @Gordon Sinclair (thistleweb)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Mar-12 10:19:36 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz couldn't this happen to Identica too? if the API's are open for US to archive our stuff, it can't be hard for others to | Mar 06 10:50 |
oiaohm | schestowitz: http://www.icedrobot.org/ most likely will not be require as the android and mainline kernel merges. | Mar 06 10:56 |
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schestowitz | oiaohm: thanks | Mar 06 11:04 |
schestowitz | sounds very promosing | Mar 06 11:04 |
schestowitz | I guess that even with 1% among Android devices, some of those Android derivatives can have millions of users and keep devs going | Mar 06 11:05 |
oiaohm | The android kernel has been kinda forced to merge mainline because the mainline kernel has a lower bug count. | Mar 06 11:06 |
oiaohm | schestowitz: basicallly at some point you will be able to by default chroot android just like chroot any other distrobution. | Mar 06 11:08 |
schestowitz | very cool | Mar 06 11:12 |
oiaohm | http://elinux.org/Android_Mainlining_Project Tracking of the merge | Mar 06 12:09 |
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MinceR | http://de2.eu.apcdn.com/full/58466.jpg | Mar 06 15:07 |
TechrightsSocial | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Mar 06 15:07 |
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qu1j0t3 | https://twitter.com/#!/anonymouSabu/status/176683665919721472 | Mar 06 17:00 |
TechrightsSocial | @anonymouSabu: They read your mails. Listen to your calls. Break into your wireless routers+sniff your traffic. GPS cars. I'm not talking about terrorists. | Mar 06 17:00 |
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schestowitz | > Hi, Roy, | Mar 06 17:52 |
schestowitz | > | Mar 06 17:52 |
schestowitz | > My reading comprehension is not good enough right now to analyse this one: | Mar 06 17:52 |
schestowitz | > | Mar 06 17:52 |
schestowitz | > http://ur.umich.edu/1112/Mar05_12/3267-researchers-and-provosts | Mar 06 17:52 |
TechrightsSocial | Title: Researchers and provosts make the case for open access | The University Record Online .::. Size~: 12.77 KB | Mar 06 17:52 |
schestowitz | > | Mar 06 17:52 |
schestowitz | > FYI Courant has previously been embarrassingly ignorant of Open and | Mar 06 17:53 |
schestowitz | > Open Access. | Mar 06 17:53 |
schestowitz | MinceR: maybe true, I doubt it | Mar 06 17:53 |
schestowitz | not sustainable in the long term | Mar 06 17:53 |
schestowitz | qu1j0t3: unconstitutional | Mar 06 17:53 |
schestowitz | but who gives a *?! Gotta beat the TERROR~1 | Mar 06 17:53 |
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schestowitz | I could give you the long story on journals (including those that accumulate conferences proceedings, e.g. LNCS), but in short it's a massive racket. Thumbs up to those who play along: "The grassroots effort, The Cost of Knowledge has obtained a commitment from 7,642 researchers around the world (as of this writing) to refrain from publishing, refereeing, and/or doing editorial work for Elsevier journals." | Mar 06 17:55 |
schestowitz | I have avoided submitting papers for 6 years now, either to conferences or journals. I also dodge reviews for the giants who exploit us academics, except when people who appraise me ask me to review a paper (very time-consuming task if done properly). We need to remove "publishers" from this so-called ecosystem. They are like the "recording industry", exploiting the music industry (artists). | Mar 06 17:57 |
schestowitz | I spoke to Mark for about an hour. We spoke about you and about careers because he is a professor, similar to me but 15 years older | Mar 06 18:01 |
schestowitz | He told me that working in particular countries in southeast Asia is worth pursuing. He knows this at least as well as I do and he has been checking about moving to Australia mostly for the weather. | Mar 06 18:01 |
qu1j0t3 | lol | Mar 06 18:07 |
qu1j0t3 | Australia is just "British Texas" | Mar 06 18:07 |
qu1j0t3 | nothing to do with South East Asia. | Mar 06 18:07 |
qu1j0t3 | better off in South America | Mar 06 18:08 |
qu1j0t3 | unless you like Anglophonic, US-puppet states | Mar 06 18:08 |
qu1j0t3 | with ugly women | Mar 06 18:08 |
qu1j0t3 | :D | Mar 06 18:08 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: also, Australia has a deep undercurrent of racism; I suppose that has to be counterbalanced against the Latino chauvinism of South America | Mar 06 18:09 |
schestowitz | " | Mar 06 18:30 |
schestowitz | > Yeah, it's a scam. The whole work flow from start to finish is paid | Mar 06 18:30 |
schestowitz | > for by grants, university salary and volunteer time. | Mar 06 18:30 |
schestowitz | Overtime. And publishers essentially pocket money covered for by goodwill of academics (passionate about their fields) and taxpayers who are forced to funnel money into R&D. I hope this whole pseudo-industry (akin to MPAA/RIAA/MAFIAA) collapses ASAP, probably to be replaced by the Web. | Mar 06 18:30 |
schestowitz | > When I was in | Mar 06 18:30 |
schestowitz | > library school (now about 16-17 years ago) even then the problem was | Mar 06 18:30 |
schestowitz | > known. | Mar 06 18:30 |
schestowitz | I once had a long USENET discussion with a librarian that put it marvelously well in words. If only I remembered how he explained this racket, wherein the universities and other parties participate; it works as long as they all collude, but if the chain breaks (one cogwhell like reviewers), it's kaput left and right. Some of the costs are passed not to taxpayers but to students, who take loans for tuition that feeds this | Mar 06 18:30 |
schestowitz | monster (not academic wages as one might believe). | Mar 06 18:30 |
schestowitz | > The hard part has been to break the cycle of abuse. ArXiv has helped | Mar 06 18:30 |
schestowitz | > for some fields and for a few others PLoS is helping. You might check | Mar 06 18:30 |
schestowitz | > with your University library if they can recommend an appropriate Open | Mar 06 18:30 |
schestowitz | > Access journal. Of course, it is almost as good to self-publish. | Mar 06 18:30 |
schestowitz | > What matters most is that the greedy industry is not fed further. | Mar 06 18:30 |
schestowitz | A lot of people would say, how would you know what's rubbish and what's good? I had this discussion with Dr. Astley when I started my Ph.D. in 2003. I explained to her back then about PageRank and told her that reputation and track record of work will help separate work of merit from k00ks. Then there's the question of citation and what's permissible as reference (more papers actually start linking to WWW); because, hehe, we | Mar 06 18:30 |
schestowitz | all know that crap work NEVER EVER makes it into peer-reviewed journals. EVER. (sarcasm) | Mar 06 18:30 |
schestowitz | Even the 9/11 "controlled demolition" proponents managed to sneak a paper into a journal once, leading to the resignation of many people in the journal. | Mar 06 18:30 |
schestowitz | " | Mar 06 18:30 |
schestowitz | [18:08] <qu1j0t3> with ugly women | Mar 06 18:30 |
schestowitz | where? | Mar 06 18:30 |
schestowitz | [18:09] <qu1j0t3> schestowitz: also, Australia has a deep undercurrent of racism; I suppose that has to be counterbalanced against the Latino chauvinism of South America | Mar 06 18:30 |
schestowitz | but the land is not owned by British colonists but by the Aboriginals technically | Mar 06 18:31 |
qu1j0t3 | of course. it has the colonial problem like all the New World. | Mar 06 18:32 |
schestowitz | another problem is militant feminism | Mar 06 18:34 |
schestowitz | where it goes overboard to harbour more than quality | Mar 06 18:34 |
schestowitz | *equality | Mar 06 18:34 |
qu1j0t3 | i've never seen this. where would i find this? | Mar 06 18:35 |
qu1j0t3 | australia certainly doesn't have that | Mar 06 18:35 |
schestowitz | it probably ooes | Mar 06 18:35 |
qu1j0t3 | canada doesn't -- in fact the Cons government is warring against women (as is their remit) | Mar 06 18:35 |
qu1j0t3 | "probably does"? | Mar 06 18:35 |
schestowitz | over-privilegism | Mar 06 18:35 |
qu1j0t3 | LOL, no. | Mar 06 18:35 |
qu1j0t3 | women are discriminated against in Australia | Mar 06 18:36 |
qu1j0t3 | just perhaps not as comprehensively as in Latino culture | Mar 06 18:36 |
qu1j0t3 | or christian america | Mar 06 18:36 |
schestowitz | is there a non-christian america? | Mar 06 18:38 |
schestowitz | "me too " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1384442 | Mar 06 18:39 |
TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Facing Execution for Three Tweets http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKNwTDFvfps #censorship #youtube #freespeech - they censoered this last week: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSqJ-7tg0Eo | Mar 06 18:39 |
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qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: certainly. but it doesn't get the media share. | Mar 06 18:39 |
schestowitz | I'm not sure who that can relate to | Mar 06 18:46 |
XFaCE | qu1j0t3: What has Harper done now? (against women) | Mar 06 18:54 |
schestowitz | Harper sang "I'm every woman" in the shower | Mar 06 18:57 |
schestowitz | and got majority vote | Mar 06 18:57 |
schestowitz | because, you know, conservatives don't think women should vote | Mar 06 18:57 |
schestowitz | so they grab the votes | Mar 06 18:57 |
schestowitz | http://www.care2.com/go/z/e/AGEg3/zmhW/Be2AT | Mar 06 18:58 |
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XFaCE | schestowitz: already signed | Mar 06 18:59 |
XFaCE | What's funny is that even the Reform Party would be better than what we have | Mar 06 18:59 |
XFaCE | Give me Preston Manning any day | Mar 06 18:59 |
XFaCE | I may have not agreed with Reform Party, but they were corporatist at least | Mar 06 19:00 |
XFaCE | It's a sad day when we're pining for the Reform party | Mar 06 19:00 |
MinceR | at least you're not pining for the socialist party | Mar 06 19:01 |
XFaCE | NDP? | Mar 06 19:01 |
XFaCE | What? | Mar 06 19:01 |
MinceR | i'm referring to the situation in hungary | Mar 06 19:01 |
XFaCE | ooo, do tell | Mar 06 19:01 |
MinceR | well, the previous government was theirs | Mar 06 19:02 |
MinceR | it sucked all kinds of ass | Mar 06 19:02 |
MinceR | but it's vastly preferable to the current dictatorship | Mar 06 19:02 |
MinceR | and they're still the most prominent opposition party | Mar 06 19:02 |
MinceR | and that's the party that's the successor of the party that ruled in the previous dictatorship (the socialist/communist one) | Mar 06 19:02 |
XFaCE | ic | Mar 06 19:04 |
XFaCE | you are in hungary? | Mar 06 19:04 |
MinceR | yes | Mar 06 19:04 |
MinceR | unfortunately | Mar 06 19:04 |
XFaCE | ah, another mystery solved | Mar 06 19:05 |
MinceR | :> | Mar 06 19:05 |
qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: are you KIDDING? | Mar 06 19:07 |
XFaCE | qu1j0t3: No, The Harper Gov't IS THAT BAD | Mar 06 19:08 |
XFaCE | Preston Manning is at least human | Mar 06 19:08 |
XFaCE | He actually has positive characteristcs and behaviour | Mar 06 19:08 |
XFaCE | He | Mar 06 19:08 |
XFaCE | s far more openminded than Harper for sure | Mar 06 19:09 |
qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: http://www.feminisms.org/1542/chipping-away-at-gender-equality-harpers-5-year-round-up/ , http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/relationships/news-and-views/judith-timson/why-should-women-believe-what-stephen-harper-says-about-abortion/article2002319/ , http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/04/29/it’s-not-me-it’s-you-canadian-women-break-up-with-pm-stephen-harper-on-youtube/ , | Mar 06 19:09 |
qu1j0t3 | http://informalfeminism.wordpress.com/2011/02/27/stephen-harpers-setbacks-to-womens-rights/ , http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2010/02/08/HarperWomensRights/ , http://spon.ca/harper-government-has-done-little-for-women/2011/01/29/ | Mar 06 19:09 |
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qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: I mean on the Harper versus Women thing. it's a full-on war. | Mar 06 19:09 |
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TechrightsSocial | Title: Harper government has done little for women « Social Policy in Ontario .::. Size~: 25.65 KB | Mar 06 19:09 |
schestowitz | does the harper govt. have women at all? None I can think of. | Mar 06 19:10 |
qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20100504/Harper-womens-funding-100504/ , http://www.nupge.ca/content/womens-equality-has-declined-under-harper-tories , http://sowhatdidimiss.blogspot.com/2011/04/no-20-harper-cuts-almost-all-funding.html , http://www.liberal.ca/newsroom/news-release/harper-punishes-womens-groups-by-cutting-their-funding/ | Mar 06 19:10 |
TechrightsSocial | Title: Harper government axes funding for 11 women's groups | CTV News .::. Size~: 189.57 KB | Mar 06 19:10 |
TechrightsSocial | Title: Women's equality has declined under Harper Tories | National Union of Public and General Employees .::. Size~: 21.5 KB | Mar 06 19:10 |
TechrightsSocial | Title: So What Did I Miss?: No. 21: Harper cuts almost all funding for women's issues, ironically named chair of UN Women's Health Fund .::. Size~: 70.17 KB | Mar 06 19:10 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: yes it does. | Mar 06 19:10 |
TechrightsSocial | Title: Harper punishes women’s groups by cutting their funding .::. Size~: 65.17 KB | Mar 06 19:10 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: Bev Oda, famously :D | Mar 06 19:10 |
schestowitz | The only politically active female in canada that I know of is Naomi Klein | Mar 06 19:10 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: then you are not informed. | Mar 06 19:10 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: Elizabeth May? | Mar 06 19:10 |
schestowitz | oh, Oda | Mar 06 19:10 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: there are hundreds of politically active women in Canada. | Mar 06 19:11 |
schestowitz | She refused to comment on g20, no? | Mar 06 19:11 |
qu1j0t3 | 'Just one day after the international development community heard threats to keep quiet or face “more backlash” from the Harper government, women’s groups today learned exactly what can happen if one opposes the Conservatives’ ideological agenda. | Mar 06 19:11 |
qu1j0t3 | “After hearing about the ‘chilling’ climate amongst foreign aid groups who are afraid to speak out against government policy for fear of having their funding cut, today Canadians have learned that a dozen women’s groups have been cut off,” said Liberal Status of Women Critic Anita Neville. | Mar 06 19:11 |
qu1j0t3 | http://www.policyalternatives.ca/publications/commentary/silencing-dissent-conservative-record | Mar 06 19:11 |
TechrightsSocial | Title: Silencing Dissent: The Conservative Record | Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives .::. Size~: 56.65 KB | Mar 06 19:11 |
XFaCE | qu1j0t3: I think Roy meant in the Conservative MPs | Mar 06 19:11 |
qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: even then. Bev Oda. | Mar 06 19:11 |
qu1j0t3 | and others | Mar 06 19:11 |
qu1j0t3 | http://www.thecoast.ca/halifax/harper-anti-women/Content?oid=2437708 | Mar 06 19:12 |
TechrightsSocial | Title: Harper: anti-women | Editorial | Halifax, Nova Scotia | THE COAST .::. Size~: 203.67 KB | Mar 06 19:12 |
schestowitz | I once sat down and talked with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theresa_May | Mar 06 19:12 |
TechrightsSocial | Title: Theresa May - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 252.87 KB | Mar 06 19:12 |
qu1j0t3 | OTOH, http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/992847--tim-harper-pm-favours-men-for-senior-portfolios-in-cabinet | Mar 06 19:12 |
schestowitz | qu1j0t3: although I'm not sure Oda is a female /sarcasm | Mar 06 19:12 |
TechrightsSocial | Title: Canada News: Tim Harper: PM favours men for senior portfolios in cabinet - thestar.com .::. Size~: 104.8 KB | Mar 06 19:12 |
XFaCE | qu1j0t3: Imagine if Belinda Stronick had won in 2005 | Mar 06 19:12 |
qu1j0t3 | http://www.canadianprogressiveworld.com/2011/05/18/stephen-harpers-persistent-women-problem/ | Mar 06 19:13 |
TechrightsSocial | Title: Stephen Harper's Chronic "Women Problem" .::. Size~: 126.77 KB | Mar 06 19:13 |
XFaCE | The conservative leadership I mean | Mar 06 19:13 |
qu1j0t3 | "Harper’s new cabinet includes only 10 women out of 39 cabinet ministers. That’s only 25.6 percent. It’s something to be ashamed of, really | Mar 06 19:13 |
qu1j0t3 | Source: Canadian Progressive World (http://s.tt/16Dll) | Mar 06 19:13 |
TechrightsSocial | Title: Stephen Harper's Chronic "Women Problem" .::. Size~: 126.77 KB | Mar 06 19:13 |
XFaCE | He choice a male Governor General | Mar 06 19:13 |
XFaCE | *chose | Mar 06 19:13 |
XFaCE | Which would be a fair thing to do, had it not been for all you have pointed out, qu1j0t3 | Mar 06 19:13 |
qu1j0t3 | it's worse | Mar 06 19:14 |
qu1j0t3 | there are links which are more damning than any of these | Mar 06 19:14 |
qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: i care less about his Cabinet and postings than i care for the ACTUAL on-the-ground attack on women , mostly those with few resources, the poor, vulnerable, and minorities | Mar 06 19:14 |
qu1j0t3 | he's defunded over 100 organisations | Mar 06 19:15 |
qu1j0t3 | and continues to dismantle them | Mar 06 19:15 |
qu1j0t3 | women today, unemployed, homeless, sick, mentally ill tomorrow | Mar 06 19:15 |
qu1j0t3 | it's always the same | Mar 06 19:15 |
qu1j0t3 | white affluent men are protected | Mar 06 19:15 |
qu1j0t3 | fuck the conservatives | Mar 06 19:15 |
qu1j0t3 | every last piece of shit one of them | Mar 06 19:16 |
XFaCE | I should print out all those article for when the University Harperites come | Mar 06 19:16 |
XFaCE | 'round | Mar 06 19:16 |
XFaCE | AKA The university club for turning of your empathy | Mar 06 19:17 |
XFaCE | qu1j0t3: Makes me think that John Baird must "[over]compensate" for his homosexual, less they toss him in front of a bus. | Mar 06 19:18 |
XFaCE | With an emphasis on the *must* | Mar 06 19:19 |
qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: ask any of the women's orgs on campus, if they still exist. | Mar 06 19:19 |
qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: they'll tell you exactly what a catastrophe this government is. | Mar 06 19:20 |
qu1j0t3 | and when he's done with women: we're next. | Mar 06 19:20 |
XFaCE | qu1j0t3: I think the conservative purpose is to sabotage this country so that all the crazy bullshit they pass become irreversible | Mar 06 19:20 |
qu1j0t3 | yes. | Mar 06 19:20 |
qu1j0t3 | that's precisely it. | Mar 06 19:20 |
qu1j0t3 | they want to break it and make it unfixable, LIKE THE USA. | Mar 06 19:20 |
XFaCE | Gawd bless Merica!! | Mar 06 19:21 |
XFaCE | ugh | Mar 06 19:21 |
schestowitz | Gawd bless Erica!! | Mar 06 19:22 |
XFaCE | When Sun News started talking about being a "patriotic" news station, I was more than reaffirmed of the direction of this country | Mar 06 19:22 |
qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: you bet. | Mar 06 19:23 |
XFaCE | qu1j0t3: Yep, heard that when I accidentally flipped to it | Mar 06 19:23 |
qu1j0t3 | because goddamn liberals hate Canada | Mar 06 19:23 |
qu1j0t3 | and love terrorists | Mar 06 19:23 |
XFaCE | The CBC is liberalz propoganda station | Mar 06 19:23 |
XFaCE | qu1j0t3: Want to be shocked and embarassed? | Mar 06 19:24 |
schestowitz | http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000143/ | Mar 06 19:24 |
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XFaCE | Even Kevin O'Leary came out and said that the omnibus crime bill was a terrible idea | Mar 06 19:24 |
XFaCE | Kevin O'Leary, Mr. Sopaisgoodasiscellphonemonitoringfor"terrorism"Iamabalddickhead | Mar 06 19:25 |
qu1j0t3 | >.< | Mar 06 19:27 |
XFaCE | UGHHHHH | Mar 06 19:27 |
XFaCE | Harper needs to be constantly kicked in the nuts, ala that Rick Mercer Revenue Canada ad parody | Mar 06 19:28 |
XFaCE | qu1j0t3: I keep hoping that a time traveler will appear and say "this government was never meant to exist" | Mar 06 19:31 |
qu1j0t3 | :| | Mar 06 19:31 |
qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: I guess that's what the natives said about the colonials -- but it didn't work for them either. | Mar 06 19:32 |
XFaCE | qu1j0t3: I hope this phone-calling scandal will be a catalyst, but it probably won't be | Mar 06 19:33 |
qu1j0t3 | right | Mar 06 19:34 |
XFaCE | qu1j0t3: I have a feeling I will have vacated the country long before the end of four years | Mar 06 19:34 |
qu1j0t3 | corrupting the vote apparently is just one of those things one can shrug off | Mar 06 19:34 |
XFaCE | yep | Mar 06 19:34 |
qu1j0t3 | ditto Bush/Cheney 2000 | Mar 06 19:34 |
XFaCE | We crossed the line, meh | Mar 06 19:34 |
qu1j0t3 | yep | Mar 06 19:34 |
qu1j0t3 | happens to the best of nations | Mar 06 19:34 |
qu1j0t3 | everyone has their flirtation with fascism | Mar 06 19:34 |
qu1j0t3 | Margaret Atwood re-tweeted me on that :D | Mar 06 19:35 |
XFaCE | nice! | Mar 06 19:35 |
qu1j0t3 | "Happy birthday Canada, and remember you're never too old to flirt with fascism!" --- this was just after G20. | Mar 06 19:35 |
qu1j0t3 | not the exact words, but close enough | Mar 06 19:35 |
XFaCE | qu1j0t3: would you leave if things got worse? | Mar 06 19:35 |
qu1j0t3 | it's not the first time i've felt unable to live under a government | Mar 06 19:36 |
qu1j0t3 | but | Mar 06 19:36 |
qu1j0t3 | the fact is | Mar 06 19:36 |
qu1j0t3 | even harper hasn't affected me personally yet | Mar 06 19:36 |
qu1j0t3 | that's the funny thing | Mar 06 19:36 |
qu1j0t3 | but i know many people are feeling it already | Mar 06 19:36 |
qu1j0t3 | it's a gathering wave | Mar 06 19:36 |
qu1j0t3 | by the time it reaches white middle class professionals, it's all too late | Mar 06 19:37 |
qu1j0t3 | ask russians, brazilians, argentines, italians, greeks, french, germans, ANYONE who's lived under fascism | Mar 06 19:37 |
qu1j0t3 | chileans | Mar 06 19:37 |
qu1j0t3 | algerians | Mar 06 19:38 |
qu1j0t3 | ukrainians | Mar 06 19:38 |
qu1j0t3 | spaniards | Mar 06 19:38 |
qu1j0t3 | peruvians | Mar 06 19:38 |
qu1j0t3 | and now it's canada's turn -- ripe for it, you might say. | Mar 06 19:38 |
XFaCE | First they came for everyone else, and I said I have nothing to fear, then they came for me. | Mar 06 19:38 |
XFaCE | qu1j0t3: Do you think this is worst than the Mulroney Gov't? Or Diefenbaker? | Mar 06 19:39 |
XFaCE | Or Bennett? | Mar 06 19:39 |
XFaCE | Based on what I've read, I think it is | Mar 06 19:40 |
XFaCE | Bennett was bad because he made stupid decisions in the depression | Mar 06 19:41 |
XFaCE | Diefenbaker cancelled the Avro Arrow | Mar 06 19:41 |
XFaCE | Mulroney sold us out but still had some redeemable things | Mar 06 19:42 |
XFaCE | Harper is the first PM that I can recall that I can liken to corrosive acid | Mar 06 19:42 |
XFaCE | Or venom | Mar 06 19:43 |
XFaCE | Or a snake in general | Mar 06 19:43 |
MinceR | sounds insulting to snakes | Mar 06 19:44 |
XFaCE | A psychopath with the power and ability to sabotage, destroy, and ruin without listening to the protests of other | Mar 06 19:44 |
XFaCE | Evil is one word I use | Mar 06 19:44 |
XFaCE | qu1j0t3: The kind of PM I liken to those rich bankers chortling and laughing high above balconeys while the occupy protestors were mistreated by police | Mar 06 19:45 |
XFaCE | qu1j0t3: I would not hestitate to confront him in public | Mar 06 19:47 |
qu1j0t3 | i'm not familiar enough with past canadian governments, but i know enough about Trudeau to know that he's responsible for many of the things that i think made Canada great. | Mar 06 19:50 |
qu1j0t3 | naturally he's the conservatives' arch-enemy & they've waited decades to undo his work, etc, etc. | Mar 06 19:50 |
XFaCE | Well, Trudeau did some nasty things to, but doesn't all PMs? | Mar 06 19:51 |
XFaCE | And overall, he cared more about Canada than about the power or the politics | Mar 06 19:51 |
qu1j0t3 | he did, but it's a net positive. | Mar 06 19:51 |
XFaCE | So did John A macdonald for that matter | Mar 06 19:51 |
qu1j0t3 | harper is a massive net negative. i find it hard to think of a single thing harper has done that was worth doing. | Mar 06 19:51 |
XFaCE | I think John A is probably the last great conservative prime minister | Mar 06 19:52 |
qu1j0t3 | i know a lot of people have been assaulted, arrested, disenfranchised, though. | Mar 06 19:52 |
qu1j0t3 | he should go to jail for G20 alone. | Mar 06 19:52 |
XFaCE | It's ironic actually | Mar 06 19:52 |
XFaCE | There was this "Life and Times" on Jean Chretien a while back, and Harper was one of those who was interviewed | Mar 06 19:52 |
XFaCE | He went on how Jean didn't have one single achievement that defined him, blah blah blah | Mar 06 19:53 |
XFaCE | Well don't worry Steve, by the end of this your many "achievements" will converge into one, and you can be remembered by the single act of destroying Canada | Mar 06 19:54 |
XFaCE | Fuck you | Mar 06 19:54 |
qu1j0t3 | yes. | Mar 06 19:55 |
qu1j0t3 | i have trouble thinking of him as human | Mar 06 19:55 |
qu1j0t3 | what is hte point of him? | Mar 06 19:55 |
XFaCE | he feeds off control and power. | Mar 06 19:57 |
XFaCE | I think he feels that his life now is a game, everything is a pawn, and every action must have a strategy | Mar 06 19:57 |
XFaCE | It feels like everytime he stirs up a controversy, it's to misdirect so he can do something else | Mar 06 19:58 |
qu1j0t3 | yes. | Mar 06 19:58 |
qu1j0t3 | which is pure cynicism | Mar 06 19:58 |
qu1j0t3 | but his type is common at federal level... | Mar 06 19:58 |
qu1j0t3 | i've mentioned john howard before; | Mar 06 19:58 |
qu1j0t3 | exactly the same type of animal | Mar 06 19:58 |
XFaCE | Andrew Breitbart | Mar 06 20:01 |
qu1j0t3 | the cynicism of this government is stunning | Mar 06 20:02 |
qu1j0t3 | election tricks | Mar 06 20:02 |
qu1j0t3 | torture | Mar 06 20:02 |
qu1j0t3 | lying | Mar 06 20:03 |
qu1j0t3 | misspending | Mar 06 20:03 |
qu1j0t3 | waste | Mar 06 20:03 |
qu1j0t3 | oil sands | Mar 06 20:03 |
XFaCE | Conspiring with foreign gov'ts | Mar 06 20:03 |
qu1j0t3 | yes | Mar 06 20:03 |
XFaCE | ignoring public consultation | Mar 06 20:03 |
XFaCE | Stupid actions | Mar 06 20:03 |
qu1j0t3 | throwing canadian sovereignty away | Mar 06 20:03 |
qu1j0t3 | throwing canada's reputation and credibility away | Mar 06 20:03 |
qu1j0t3 | making the country a laughing stock | Mar 06 20:03 |
qu1j0t3 | attacking immigrants | Mar 06 20:03 |
qu1j0t3 | deportations for PR | Mar 06 20:04 |
XFaCE | regression | Mar 06 20:04 |
qu1j0t3 | profiteering with private prisons | Mar 06 20:04 |
XFaCE | wait, private prisons? | Mar 06 20:04 |
qu1j0t3 | um yeah? | Mar 06 20:04 |
qu1j0t3 | hello? | Mar 06 20:04 |
XFaCE | That's goign to happen? | Mar 06 20:04 |
qu1j0t3 | that's one of Harper's major projects | Mar 06 20:04 |
qu1j0t3 | he's already changing sentencing to ensure there's a big supply of inmates | Mar 06 20:04 |
qu1j0t3 | oh, LONG GUN REGISTRY | Mar 06 20:04 |
qu1j0t3 | LONG FORM CENSUS | Mar 06 20:04 |
qu1j0t3 | god, the list goes on forever... | Mar 06 20:04 |
XFaCE | Ah, Occum's Razor | Mar 06 20:05 |
XFaCE | Makes sense | Mar 06 20:05 |
qu1j0t3 | real data threatens conservative agendas | Mar 06 20:05 |
XFaCE | qu1j0t3: Fortunately, there's a supreme court | Mar 06 20:05 |
qu1j0t3 | so, cut the balls off the census | Mar 06 20:05 |
qu1j0t3 | make it statistically useless | Mar 06 20:05 |
XFaCE | all this shit waitin' to be struck down | Mar 06 20:05 |
qu1j0t3 | data only supports liberal programs anyway.. | Mar 06 20:05 |
XFaCE | qu1j0t3: Not that it mattered anyway | Mar 06 20:05 |
XFaCE | An MP said that he didn't care if a crime bill didn't make statistical or factual sense | Mar 06 20:06 |
XFaCE | Because the Conservative Party of Canada follows its mandate regardless of common sense! | Mar 06 20:06 |
MinceR | qu1j0t3: what's the worst thing the current canadian government did? | Mar 06 20:23 |
qu1j0t3 | it's hard to pick a favourite -- but i would probably say their environmental crimes are the worst, because they will add up to something monstrous over time | Mar 06 20:26 |
qu1j0t3 | oh, they pulled out of any kyoto commitments. there's another one. | Mar 06 20:26 |
qu1j0t3 | the G20 and G8 were unforgiveable; jail terms should have applied. | Mar 06 20:26 |
qu1j0t3 | massive embezzlement and shredding of rights | Mar 06 20:27 |
qu1j0t3 | any one of these things should have bounced them out of power | Mar 06 20:27 |
MinceR | ic | Mar 06 20:27 |
qu1j0t3 | Canada's head statistician resigned because the Cons made a mockery of his institution | Mar 06 20:28 |
qu1j0t3 | the police were denied a long gun registry | Mar 06 20:28 |
qu1j0t3 | because idiot Conservatives think they shouldn't have to tell anyone they own guns. | Mar 06 20:28 |
qu1j0t3 | police disagreed with government on this | Mar 06 20:28 |
qu1j0t3 | it's all so transparent... | Mar 06 20:29 |
MinceR | what's the worst they did against human rights? | Mar 06 20:29 |
qu1j0t3 | supporting torture | Mar 06 20:29 |
MinceR | in what form? | Mar 06 20:29 |
qu1j0t3 | and not challenging regimes like CHina | Mar 06 20:29 |
qu1j0t3 | supporting interventions | Mar 06 20:29 |
qu1j0t3 | MinceR: unbelievably, the most latest sign of that was the declaration that Canadian intelligence should feel free to use information knowing it was or could have been obtained by torture. Also, turning a blind eye to detainee handling where Canadian authorities are legally required to prevent handing prisoners where they know or suspect torture will be used. Harper govt has completely | Mar 06 20:31 |
qu1j0t3 | failed on this. | Mar 06 20:31 |
qu1j0t3 | also, re human rights, ignoring Canadian citizens who are detained or in other trouble abroad. | Mar 06 20:31 |
qu1j0t3 | refusing to repatriate them | Mar 06 20:31 |
MinceR | ic | Mar 06 20:31 |
qu1j0t3 | there are numerous high profile cases | Mar 06 20:31 |
qu1j0t3 | where courts ruled the government MUST act | Mar 06 20:31 |
qu1j0t3 | and the government ignores the courts | Mar 06 20:31 |
qu1j0t3 | it's a pattern | Mar 06 20:31 |
XFaCE | can you send me some articles on that? | Mar 06 20:33 |
XFaCE | Would be a good thing to ask during my law class | Mar 06 20:33 |
qu1j0t3 | oh, there were some document related rulings recently too | Mar 06 20:34 |
qu1j0t3 | and NOW we have the election dirty tricks issue. | Mar 06 20:34 |
qu1j0t3 | which they will ignore | Mar 06 20:34 |
qu1j0t3 | Harper denies it but won't cooperate with an investigation | Mar 06 20:34 |
XFaCE | Seriously tho, do you have some articles handy? | Mar 06 20:36 |
XFaCE | bbl | Mar 06 20:40 |
qu1j0t3 | i can probably find some later. http://www.thestar.com/specialsections/omarkhadr/article/757580--court-refuses-to-order-khadr-home , http://www.thecanadiancharger.com/page.php?id=5&a=859 , http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/opinion/mr-harper-dissent-is-vital-to-democracy/article2349447/ , http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/node/26805 , | Mar 06 20:44 |
qu1j0t3 | http://www.pauldewarmp.ca/fr/medias/articles/49-csis-calls-for-investigation-of-abdelrazik-affair-.html | Mar 06 20:44 |
TechrightsSocial | Title: Court refuses to order Khadr home - thestar.com .::. Size~: 84.3 KB | Mar 06 20:44 |
TechrightsSocial | Title: Ten critical reasons for getting rid of Harper's Conservatives - Canadian Charger .::. Size~: 27.13 KB | Mar 06 20:44 |
TechrightsSocial | Title: Mr. Harper, dissent is vital to democracy - The Globe and Mail .::. Size~: 104.23 KB | Mar 06 20:44 |
TechrightsSocial | Title: Kind Words: The Loonie is Stronger Than Our National Identity (at least it’ll get you a bag of chips) | Cannabis Culture Magazine .::. Size~: 26.38 KB | Mar 06 20:44 |
TechrightsSocial | Title: CSIS calls for investigation of Abdelrazik affair - Paul Dewar | Ottawa Centre | NDP-NPD .::. Size~: 22.75 KB | Mar 06 20:44 |
qu1j0t3 | http://nathanson.osgoode.yorku.ca/databases/abdelrazik-v-minister-of-foreign-affairs-et-al/ | Mar 06 20:44 |
TechrightsSocial | Title: Abdelrazik v Minister of Foreign Affairs et al | Nathanson Centre on Transnational Human Rights, Crime and Security .::. Size~: 74.06 KB | Mar 06 20:44 |
qu1j0t3 | 'Abdelrazik is a Canadian citizen who spent more than a year living in the lobby of the Canadian embassy in Sudan. He could not leave the embassy because he faced a risk of arbitrary detention and torture in Sudan. He could not return to Canada because the Canadian government refused to issue him travel documents due to national security concerns. This refusal came despite his never having | Mar 06 20:44 |
qu1j0t3 | been charged with a criminal offence, and notwithstanding that both CSIS and the RCMP indicated that they had no evidence that he posed a security threat. | Mar 06 20:44 |
qu1j0t3 | On 4 June 2009, the Federal Court held that the government breached Mr. Abdelrazik’s constitutional right to enter and remain in the country, and ordered that he be repatriated within 30 days. In the Court’s words, Mr. Abdelrazik “is as much a victim of international terrorism as the innocent persons whose lives have been taken by recent barbaric acts of terrorists.” | Mar 06 20:44 |
qu1j0t3 | http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/02/02/kenney-refuses-to-apologize-for-fake-citizenship-broadcast-blames-bureaucrats/ | Mar 06 20:45 |
TechrightsSocial | Title: Fake citizenship ceremony: Jason Kenney refuses to apologize for Sun News broadcast, blames bureaucrats | News | National Post .::. Size~: 90.33 KB | Mar 06 20:45 |
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